SIS Archives -- April 2000

Ok...I have left everything Steely for the past 2 weeks...on purpose...no 2vN...no guestbook...no official site...etc...

I wanted to take a clean break and then come back to the album and see/hear the songs that REALLY stood out...you know, a real dumb guy's experiment!

Well...I'd say I did the right thing...the whole album really stood out and sounded so fresh and clean...

The tracks that hit me the most were:

* Title track
* Almost Gothic (my personal fav)
* And the one that stood out the most...drumroll please...Negative Girl!

Interesting huh, maybe the song that most of us warmed up to the slowest, yet now it overwhelmed me...what a song!

Jive!

PS Congrats to St. Al and Rudy on the new look website! It looks awesome (I would expect no less!)!

See you at The Gorge!

I actually made a point of going back to read Ms Turnbull's posts, that were, actually, kinda funny. I'm just glad to see someone else got a slam about only using three dots, Clas looking out for us all.

I gotta admit, Innocent One, the misspellings are freaking me out.

St. Al -- place looks awesome, streamlined, ready to rock. The frontpage is the best, quicker, easier to go through.

Ok, me and three other people can't remember where Turnbull is from, but I'm guessing 'Ramona' or some other Judy Blume masterpiece.

THE H IS O!

no!

Hi all!
Sououtrageous: I am still waiting for your personal reply to my last e mail. Where are you? I am sure you are a very busy guy though right now so i am waiting in the four winds- after all, haven't we been "trading fours" since the begining? Much love, and respect, chere

Steviedan: I sopke to my Uncle Jim Martin (drummer extraordinare) tonight. He remembers he thinks, doing an show with your store as the venue. Possibly Mercury Dime. Not sure. He is going to call you soon. I feel so happy just to
a) have my brother/uncle Jim meet YOU and you guys connecting and maybe some connections and gig energy will take place with eachother or through eachother especially as musicians in a place of the US where stuff is just blowing up. Joleen is a crowd he's been hangin with recently.
b) you get to meet my kinfolk and I get to hear ALL about you.
He said your store was one of the greatest around and you are so "holdin' it sown" independent style- a dying breed of record buying experience and discovery. Bless you for dat! Also many thanks to you for that sweet gesture of saying publicly that my e mail was "eloquent as always" and that you feel my posts are some of your favourite on the GB. That means SOOO much.Sououtrageous can tell you why that is.

Innocent One: Keep drinking in the DAN. Learn AJA by heart and go buy Pretzel Logic, listen to Charlie Freak. Any which way you can accomplish this. Also disect Katy Lied. These albums are so much more than MUSIC. They are baroque, masterful, and vivid. They teach and mentor, they tell fables, jokes and stir waters in your soul that will bring a smile to yo face chile'. And you will eventually discover, that all the albums tell a story that keeps going on and on, connectedly (is that a word?) spiraling and weaving a tapastry that tells the story of everyone's life. a story that helps you to even better understand the sources of this fine luxury we are so very blessed with. You will learn MUCH girlie girl.
Dragon: Thanks for noticing my post. I am one of those people that really disects things especially when it comes o wordlike stuff. Lyrics. My JUJU is a very serious gig for me and I call it JUJu affectionatly. But I am very learned in the religiona dn there are soooo many Hidden mysterious VouDoun/Santeria?candomble/Brujeria connotations throghout this album. it is complex, but i promise you all it will be worth the wat. That is, if Ole is cool with me covering more than one song on this subject. Thanks also for the wishes and mad love for my health and situations to improve. I may be sick, poor and destitute in every sense of the word right now, but my heart is SoOOOOOO full. Isn't that rich?

I want to also thank everyone else for reading my Eastertime posts and tollerating my Babylon Sista tendencies. All your personal e mails to me and public GB notations are so sweet and make me feel so proud of this our tribe of eccentric and wonderful Dan Fans. it also inspires and gives me the extra inertia energy I need right now to keep pushing on. May all that you have sent ME the past few weeks come back TENFOLD!!!!!

Peace Blessings and EVERYDAY HAVING A DAN EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!!Chere

Ok, I think we're almost done. I've only got a couple more (obvious) links to fix. The rest will shake out over time...

http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/

Chris: I forgot a lot of great bands, including WALTER BECKER, DONALD FAGEN and STEELY DAN. Ok, those are obvious, then there was Peter Gabriel, Neville Bros, The whole Lilith gang, a slew of "grunge bands," a thousand other jam bands (including the Spin Doctors), etc, ETC, ETCETERA... I came up with that list off the top of my head in 5 minutes.

Big Red: Regarding intellectually engaging music. That too is a matter of opinion. I disagree but I'm too lazy to argue right now...

Dragon: I love showing my Freudian slip -- especially to my wife and she loves the other Freudian foible from which I suffer from...

StAl

St Al and Razor Boy - no need to be envious, come down some year for a great time at Jazzfest

sunday highlights - great weather, fine fine ladies,
Brazillian Music, Funky Meters and Sting

Sting left his ego in check and was quite moving, he actually did 4 Police songs - Roxanne, Every Little ings about several things. I hate to see people hurt and i wasent targeting that at anyone at all! So please dont think that i went off! I just kinda have all these deep thoughts in my head and i wouldn't feel more comfterable any other place! Thanks everyone!

Hello everyone~ I hope we all had an awesome weekend!
Thank you for appologizing, Ms. Turnbull, thats cool that its all in good fun that you correct people, but people come on here and have fun and to talk, if you were relaxing and having a good time and someone kept on correcting you it would make you self conscience and it wouldn't make it as fun as before. That was the only thing that i was trying to point out to you because you wouldn't want to stop the fun! Thats what this is all about! Negative energy is something that is not a cool thing at all. You and EVERYONE in the world is very powerful! We must always remember that what we say, even though we may not realixe it, can have a major effect on people. I've seen what negative energy can do to people and in an envoirnment where everyone comes to feel safe and at home, it is always important to keep that healthy balance. Your words and the energy that you put out into the world will come back to you. I know that some of you maybe thinking that you cant believe that a teenager writes all of this and all of that, but you know, I'm constantly one to give off positive vibes. Well, i don't know, i hope anyway. But you know, i'm in high school so i totally see everything that goes on. I'm an observer and i think on a higher level than anyone i know. It's strange because even though there are other people like me in the world there is still so much crap that goes on. I would like to REMIND everyone that it is OK to speek out for whats right and what you believe in! Thank you all for reading my thoughts, I hope that you will all remember that your words are always important. Thank you all and have a great day. I will probably see you all tommorow!

No fishes here, sorry.

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While it's quiet, I'll take the opportunity to vent:
- To those who think tickets are expensive: It's a big band with chops, waddaya want? Jus be glad you can still check them out live.
- About the live note-for-note obsession: I hear the Steely Damned are good at that. Stick to Danventions.
- To those of you that don't like men and loathe the French, rest assured that I'm a french male and I take offense.
- To those who comment on the looks of the band: you still don't get it, do you?
- To those who got their CDs stolen: see what happens when you turn people on to the Dan?
'nuff said. Feel better now. Thank you.

Just surfed in. Was looking at the "rarities" section and noticed there were two albums that I have that are not listed(they are LP's)"You Gotta Walk It Like You Talk It"( that other soundtrack) and "Four Tracks from Steely Dan" an import.
Am I imagining that all you big time fans out there have never heard of these?
Send me an email!-Oh, and they're not for sale

chere: I’m sorry to hear about your illness. I hope you feel better soon. I’m not sure what’s ailing you but whenever I catch flu, get a cold, or come down with a nasty infection anywhere in my respiratory system I try to drink lots of echinacea tea, as hot and as strong as I can stand it with honey to sweeten it and little lemon or ginger root seem to help even more. But you probably already know the properties of the aforementioned items far more extensively than I do. Per your note to oleander, if you are talking about giving your own exegisis of 2vN well then BABBLE-ON SISTAH, share those fever dreams laced with your special brand of juju!! I think that would be some very interesting (and maybe even informative) reading. I certainly hope that those BOOMs you feel coming on are the good kind of booms.
Edd: Dr. Mu is apparently right on the money mentioning Bacharach in the same breath with BFF, in an interview on “Unauthorized Bio. of RM”they mention him as an influence. I would recommend the self titled album before “Whatever...”.
StAl: Your Freudian slip is showing.

Here Yea!

Re: Pine Knob

Although pavillion seats are sold out, lawn seats are still available at $25.00 face value.

Actually, a good value at that unless it rains! If so, be prepared for a mudfest! They don't allow umbrellas for obvious reasons. Ponchos recommended -- mine will be made of spangled "pleather" Gortex.

St Al- Congratulations on the new look for the page. It looks great! The graphics are beautiful-- be sure to pass the word along to the joker. Also, you've managed a first: the frames in the site are not annoying, they actually work well with the site! Kudos!

-Andy

Thanks to all who responded @ Hotlanta 7/18 show -the wife and I are going for both shows. I believe Ole is going sans hubby also ?

Who else ?

Sounds like the makings of a great Danfest.

Micheal McDonald???????????

like wow........

Q

Greetings all.

Looeez- Thanks for the kind words. I do however feel that I must mention that the listbot was not my idea, those kudos belong to Hoops! and StAl I believe. I am simply an over zealous fan who couldn't wait to "get the party started." It was a fabulous idea to get everyone involved like that. Can't wait to meet you on that Lucky Sunday.

YGK & others-I also enjoy King Crimson, although the only album I have is Three of a Perfect Pair. I also have a tape of Robert Fripp and Andy Somer(The Police) doing some incredible things. When is the new album due?

Wormian one-It sounds like your jazz fest is really swingin'. I am envious of you for having the Radiators in your hometown. The are one of the groovin'est (???) bands around. The play up here frequently at a place called Shank Hall(anyone know where that names from?) but I have yet to be able to see them. Enjoy making trails in the soil with your tail!

Gotta go now be back with more later.

Yes, there's gas in the car.

Peace Love and DAN

Razor

Ok, I'm in the process of making the switch over to the new website. Over the next few days you may notice broken links, dead pages, missing images, etc. Please bare with while the changes take place.

When the site does go live you'll be able to click on the "home" link above to access it.

DJ Mitch: Of course, my take was meant to be humorous. Although IMO you shouldn't take the meaning of the song at face value everytime. It's no fun. For example: "Who makes the traffic interesting?". Most people picture heavy petting while stuck in traffic. Right? Now let's consider that the narrator is alone with Da Kine Bud and just happens to be reflecting on such an obvious everyday thing as traffic while zoned out. In fact, shouldn't you worry, knowing the Dan, that the song is too obvious? Here's another lead: the word "marijuana" was originally coined in spanish so it has its birthday in Spain. Naturally.
Gotta go. I'm starting to freak myself out with this thing. The bets are on for Friday morning. I say they kick off with Janie Runaway and, if there's another one, Gaslighting Abbie (here's one that sounds quite sinister if you take it too litterally as we know it is not about setting your spouse on fire with a gas lighter. Or is it? ;-) Ciao.

Jolly Roger....the official site had a drawing for registered newsletter recipients and I was one of the lucky ones....many thanks again to SDWebDrone, Walter & Donald.

Twinkie
additives- YES! Somebody who recondnised the Spin Doctors!

I have to say, Steely Dan is my second favorite band. Spins are first on the list.

But they are very different, so it's hard to compare them.

Speaking of Spin Doctors, I know I shouldn't do this, but--

"Visit my Spin Doctors page for all the latest news and updates."
http://fly.to/SpinDoctors

Q; Why would you think they might cut one Atlanta show?

Midnite Cruiser; How did you score free tickets?

St Al: You forgot the Spin Doctors! I know some of their older stuff sucked, but they're extremely un-popular new stuff is awesome.

Andy: I did the same thing with my Tweeter center tix. None yet.

I just bought Katy Lied, remastered, at Borders. I'm trying to buy every album on CD, and because I don't like a lot of the music on shelves now (and I call myself a teen! Honestly!) so whenever I go there I pick up some Dan. Does anybody know what the scoop is with Gaucho (sp?)? I know it's not remasterd, but I can't find the disc anywhere.

Why is it that Steely Dan's most discussing and sick songs take place in a major key? "Everyone's gone to the movies", "Hey Nineteen" (well at least the ending)and more.

::soon you will be a teen
I think you know what I mean
don't tell your momma
your daddy
your momma
they'll never know where you've been
come on::

Black Minnie: I want my skirt returned to me Immediamente...I think you pinched it without my knowledge. My paramour and partner in crime will also be very upset that it's missing.

Q and Atlanta folks: I got series tix at Chastain for Joni and SD for the first night through the venue-direct purchase. The public is to be offered (or so was said) the remaining first night seats and then Ticketmaster is handling the second night, probably not available yet? Am I Deludin?

DJMitch: appreciate the sentiment below re: the spouse.

c mia

Red Blazer: Janie Runaway has nothing to do with drugs and everything to do about sex..itis an excellent piece,love the Sax and funky bass........The Libby bashing is a outtahand, she is pretty and she did have a couple releases with some heavyweights for that time period,accusing her of being a groupie is wrong. Libby came from the same College and obviously shared the same cultural backround.......

Michelle: Please enlighten me as to how ) :-) iM sooooo sorrE if my post created any negative energy :-( i don’t like to hurt any body, ‘cause like SD sings to Peg “it will come back to you”!!!! most of the people on the GB
are like, well, really used to like really uptight sort of people correcting each other all in good fun!!! Sometimes we all agree so much that the only fun we can have is like gnitPicking on each others like petty (oops, I mean like little itty bitsy silly willy) mistakes! haha!!! BTW, FYI-- Clas will probably (if he hasn’t already) let you no it’s three dots, not four!!!! he’s really got a thing for those three dots!!!

I agree with AGNG and steviedan. I’m also share part of the not so innocent one’s problem. I had some of my favortie CDs stolen (among many other things) and most of the ones stolen were SD CDs. I’m am to put in in PC terms “financially challenged” so
replacing them will not be easy, it’s been over a year and I still haven’t completely replaced them. result: I haven’t heard some really great SD tunes in a while. I’ll spare
you all the sad details, bottomline is I know that there are people who would willingly do what one (hopefully) well intentioned person here has offered to do for Michelle. In their
defense, if what Michelle says is true then she has already paid SD by purchasing the CDs before, BUT, just about everyone hear has purchased at least one recording twice, either to replace a lost, stolen or damaged item or in a new format. My advice Michelle? Bite the bullet and buy new ones, do without until then or borrow a legit copy from a friend. You had something stolen from you, don’t try to solve the problem by steeling
from someone else.

StAl- You missed Beck, Johnny Lang, Macy Gray, Spin Doctors, Toad the Wet Sprocket, Joan Osborne, Kenny Wayne Sheppard, Better Than Ezra, Eddie Brickell, Seal, Foo Fighters, Jamiroquai, BFF, Radiohead, Live, Smashing Pumpkins and Fiona Apple (okay, okay...so her MUSIC isn't too great but read her LYRICS.)

Point being that NOBODY compares to Steely Dan, as we all can attest. However, in the great spacious vacuum that is modern music there are some artists that don't completely suck.

SD Webdrone....thanks again to you, Walter & Donald for the free tickets opportunity....my wife and I shall enjoy them immensely!!

Is Michael McDonald still singing in the Atlanta shows?...anyone?

Anyone know if they are still doing 2 shows in Atlanta or have they cut to one ?

the first show sold out in 10 seconds!

Q

Yo fellow danheads!Looks like the guys will be playing right in front of Dean and Deluca next friday morning on the Today show. Gee, I wonder what they'll play. By the way, Janie Runaway seems to have an interesting soft drug subtext if you consider that what "makes tonight a wonderful thing" can also "rescue a dreary sunday", make you feel like doing spontaneous fun stuff like sailing again or impersonnating Sinatra or even give you a case of the "munchies" ("Let's grab some take out from Dean and Deluca!"). Sounds like the workings of some fine Hawaiian Bud. You see Melanie is a friend of the weed and she's not afraid to try new things. But would that be a federal case? In fact, if you play the song backwards (which you can't, at least not until the vinyl is out) Janie Runaway becomes Mary Juana. No shit.

St Al: Maybe what the guy means to say is that he thinks there has been no signs of intellectually engaging musical offerings lately and on that point I can't disagree with him. Sure we've had our share of good grooves and occasionnal chops display but that is not all that rock music was about to begin with. Thanks for the opportunity to post. See ya.

A friend of mine has just given me a copy of "Nixon" by Lambchop. Sounds great, wonderful music, and lyrics which are almost as sharp and funny as the Dan. Recommended.

Chere - in WPB i'm 7th row center section seat 25&26 currently but may shift up in next couple days. I'll let you know.

Are you coming to the TPA show and Danfest ?

We are up to ..........8-10 locals, 6 "out of towners"

Q

...make that ratio "far too 'low'". I've occasionaly made it thru 3 towns without hearing any music while driving to work.

re: Dr. Mu

...and so I hang my head in shame, being still among the BFF deprived.

In spite of the fact I live near a major radio market (Boston), the diversity of radio stations I can use to "audition" new music is fairly shallow. Adsurdly so. There's a ton of rock stations in various flavors, but during the time when I *can* tune in (mostly drive time, argh) the ratio of music to crap (commercials, inane DJ chatter) is far too high. I get two 45 minute blocks of uninterupted listening time a day, and I try to put it to good use. There a a couple good "real" jazz stations and one commercial classical. We had a "smooth jazz" station for a time, but it died. Too bad. There was the standard dreck, but you could also hear lots of SD alumni (Sample, Scott, etc.)

...and I'll be the first to admit, I'm getting old. Rock (in all its permutations) just doesn't speak to me as it once did.

But I will try BFF!!!

Dear Herb aka erb,

Don't forget your "Stella Stevens or Steely Dan?" workbook. I'll make sure your time is well spent.

Rescuing a Dreary,

Black Minnie

Minnie: I can't believe someone has as much free time as me. May I set up my gear?

Herb "erb" Tea

and a big "how-dee" back at you KD!

I just wanted to add that I just love being in the car and all of a sudden........ "I Love Music" by the Ojays comes on. It not only gets me singing LOUD and strong, but makes me remember all the great all kinda music that be out dere.
I Love
I Love
I Love
I Love
I Love MUSIC..................-chere

Hello all! Happy Sunday morning to you it's 1:20 am my time.
The days events for Chere. I have this friend Cassandra. I met her through her Aunt who works in the building I live in. She is an LPN in school to become an RN. Very cool chick. Has two kids.Tyler 6 and Yosylyn 8. This weekend we had planned to go to this great gig in South Florida hosted by the local "ol Skool R&B station called "Family Reunion". It is an all day affair that has a bunch of old skool bands grooving, every year. Of course in this city, there is NO way I could attend that kind of a show being such a lily white looking chick. I learned this first hand last time I tried to have a go of it last year. I was so jazzed to have my soul sista friend to go wit to get my SWERVE on in serious FASHION. Of course as you all know (I've bitched enough about it) I am still sick as hell with this damn bug. Well turns out she got it too and we could not attend. She called me later this afternoon crying because her car broke down on the highway on the way back from the doc, as Yosylyn was sick too. She had walked MILES with her kids (she has no family here and is struggling like many of us) to get home to call me and just vent. I said "where the fuck's your car?" She told me on the side of I95 (a road of carnage and other bad things) So I got out my trustee AAAPlus card and we got that bugger towed to her mechanics place. We waited 2 1/2 hours for AAA to come. We had three Cd's in the car. Milenium FUNK party (which is really killer by the way/Rhino Records) Earth Wind and Fire Best of Vol. I, and Aja. Tyler wears little John Lennon specs and favors Branford Marsalis. Because we missed out on the whole "family reunion gig" and she was tripping out so bad, I slipped in the funk mix first and brought her some flowers and OJ from the farmers market and sweetcakes because I heard these kids had no easter OR birthday ALL in the same week. Brick House is the first song on the CD. These kids sang their hearts out and Tyler was singing into the speaker real loud. They knew every word to every song. There we were, parked on the side of the highway cars FLYING by, singing and clapping in da car. I turned everyone onto AJA tonight in that car and man, what an experience. After three listens , we were all singing Black Cow and Josie at the top of our lungs. I have hooked three new DanFans. Feelin' mighty proud about dat. I met a future jazz artist, Tyler who beat skins and played chunky air horn. Yosylyn did most of the real soulful vocals with a magazine for the mike, loves the AJA cover art and wants to be an actress. And Cassandra wondered aloud where the hell was she while Steely Dan was making and (still is) music. The four of us in a very dangerous part of town havin some "Church.... Dan Propa". Tyler asked did I have MORE Steely dan Cd's at MY house, and had me write the name down on a paper for his next trip to Wal Mart.Amazing what a "Little Dan" can do. That and telling a few lies to AAA.
Nuff said.

steviedan: I am SOOOO Sooo glad you got my drift and understood where I was really coming from. Ironically just tonight I learned of the whole MP3 thing.I do not watch too much TV. Hardly ever- don't even now why I have one. I will look forward to hearing fro you propa like soon. Thanks so much for the love and the reflection.peace

Sooutrageous:I bet your out having a fabulous time and drinking a ZOMBIE being born again my friend celebrating the very idea that you will be right up in it. The EL SUPREMO IN THE ROOM IN THE FRONT OF THE STAGE I am sooooo excited for you. I will e mail you propa like after I hear from you. Mass JUJU to you darling and then some.

Innocent One: Thanks for the e mail, I'll be in touch. Seems I've learned a valuable lesson about the piracy that goes on in this world. Very genorous offers indeed for fellow fans to help you in acquiring a collection. The linear notes ARE halarious. Drink in as much Steely Dan as you can and you will live well. Das a promise girl.

Q: I WILL be attending the WPB show.Where will you be? I will be from what I gather, in the orchestra section. My hottest of fever dreams will occur at that moment. If you've never been to Mars Music venue it is cool. Very open and airy and great sound.

Much love to you all.

ONE LOVE.

STEELY DAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

chere

Chiming in here on the "whether there's been any good music since XXXX" (pick a year, any year) thread -- let me reframe the issue at least the way it affects me personally.

I do recognize that there are all sorts of talented groups and individuals out there who have been making good music all along. My problem may simply be that I have way idiosyncratic tastes. I appreciate and respect all sorts of music, but the stuff that really spins my propeller has to have a certain sensibility. The Dan may be the one single group going that has ever hit that sensibility right in the bullseye--noirish, ascerbic, ironical, intelligent, bluesy, swinging, and virtuosic (is that last one a word? it is now!). The simple fact is that there are precious few other performers out there, however great, that do all of those same things in such a way that they succeed in satiating that personal musical jones of mine the way the Dan do. There are many that cover enough of those things that they at least asuage the hunger a little bit. Most recently, our buddy Diane turned me on to Morphine (the group, not the drug, folks!) and made me very happy. Macy Gray has also turned me on, as has local heros Maktub. Somewhat further afield, I've always reliably gotten thrills out of Peter Gabriel, Kate Bush, Elvis Costello, David Byrne ... but somehow for me the musical thrills, while still buy-able, are getting fewer and further between ...

IMO musical taste, like love, is just an incredibly idiosyncratic thing, and that's all there is to it. There's a ton of stuff I've listened to, where I find myself thinking "oh, they're doing that so nice, they're really really good, there's every reason I should be liking this group a helluva lot more than I do, but ... I just don't. I dunno why." But then, every once in a blue moon, there's a song that comes on the radio that makes my head snap around in a classic double take, and jolts me into phoning the DJ and blurting "Who the hell was that? I need to know NOW!" That jolt of musical love-at-first-sight, which seemed to be happening to me every other week during the 1970s through mid-1980s, has maybe happened about a dozen times total in the 1990s. And I kinda miss it. Thass'all, boss.

/The Mam'zelle
just another music/love junkie

hello.

After running the Chicago Trifecta, Toronto and Cleveland, The Dan will ride the crest of a wave through the bucolic Northeast corner of our fair Keystone State.

Then,
July 1. Upstate New York for Donald, Walter and Steely Dan. Saratoga in July.

Barrytown. Home At Last.
lh.

Daddy G -- I agree. On the surface my post may have seemed a tad bit acerbic? However, it most definitely wasn't directed at you. Sorry about that.

This brings up a problem that has always occurred on this guestbook, or any other computer based method of communication, which is how to express yourself. Specifically, how do you express yourself without offending someone else, yet still drive a point home? It's tough. Really tough. Unless you have a Buckley-like vocabulary and a whole lot of time on your hands.

I'll use an example. A few posts ago I made a comment about the guitar playing of Tim Reynolds, and in this post I said "I doubt anyone on this board could even aspire to be in this guys league." Yikes! In hindsight that was a backhand to all the great guitar players on this board, but it absolutely wasn't my intention. I simply wanted to make the point that Reynolds is an amazing guitar player. The problem I have is I tend to type the same thoughts I would speak if you were standing right in front of me, without the dynamics of body language, inflection and my ability to speak at over 300 words a minute... You can do a lot of backpedaling...

Same old story, really. So here's what I try to do whenever I read a post. I look at the post and actively think "glass-is-half-full." In other words, before I make the assumption someone is trying to say something negative, I always try to think positive. Doesn't always work, and very often I fall victim to negative volleys. However, this is another part of my personality. I love a good debate. If someone says something I disagree with, I'll let you know. I expect the same. And I don't beat around the fucking bush, either. I'm a passionate guy. What can I say? I often talk with foot squarely inserted in mouth, but I rarely have regrets and I'll apologize when I'm wrong, which I never am... (remember that mr "..")

There have been a couple of themes which appear from time to time that really get me going. One of them is the "There hasn't been any good music since [insert any date preceding 1990 here]." This is a ridiculous statement and I pity the fool who thinks this.

I AM NOT SAYING YOU Daddy G.

Another, of course, is the old musicians vs. new musicians debate.

Wormtom -- you lucky dog, you. N.O. is the only major city I've never been to and it's on my list.

Minor -- I'm watching you pal.

StAl

off to the office to take a quick head dunk and refuel

new orleans is cooking

today's highlights - Brian Lee, George Porter , Marcia Ball and Cowboy Mouth
(run don't walk and get a CM cd if you have never heard them)

dancing the proverbial worm ass off and da ladies like it

off to see the radiators

I love this town

the pearl left the quarter and is at the fairgrounds in replendant divergence

cheer e o

Tster

IMHO, this is insane.

Hoaxy, dubious, but very entertaining!

In
My
Humble
Opinion ; )

Dr Mu- WHOA! are you serious? how much does that rule? i can't wait till i get to get all the albums. How cool, and i kinda like that because they were remastered in my generation, and as you know, when can't buy a thrill came out i wasent' even close to being born, i mean my dad and mom were still young! But wow, i'm so excited to start looking. I feel dumb asking but what does IMHO mean anyway?? I've seen it all over, sorry i'm new at this lingo stuff! :) talk to you later

Hey Trifecta gang!

Sent an attachment to our hosts which included name of hookup in Clarkston (Pine Knob):

Clarkston Union Bar & Kitchen
54 South Main Street
Clarkston, MI 48346

Website: http://www.ddwindows.com/classes.htm

See Yahoo Maps for interactive maps and driving directions.

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Innocent One: Over the past year or so Can't Buy a Thrill, Countdown to Ecstacy, Pretzel Logic, Katy Lied, Royal Scam, and Aja have all been newly remasted by Roger Nichols with Walter and Donald. There are hilarious new liner notes with these as an extra bonus. Since you were not aware of this, think of it as a unique educational opportunity. All six remasters are sonically superior to theor predecessors IMHO. You should have many hours of excitement ahead!!

Hi everyone! Hope you all are having a great day/ weekend~

DrMu- Walmart huh? yeah i think that i'm going to order some off the internet and i'm going to try to find some in the stores but i already have Aja and i think that thery've only remastered that one! like you said we are awaiting Gaucho

Chere- Hey whats up? Thank you for the offer! Sometimes i play cds in the Dvd players too! I'm so very careful about on who i ask for things so i think that i am going to try to find as many cd's as possible and try to buy them and if i cant then i will let you know. Thank you so much for the offer! oh, yeah i didn't really listen to home at last but it's slowly becoming one of my favorites. I LOVE IT!!!

Razor boy- Welcome home!

EDD- yeah your right, what i told Chere above is that i'm going to look around as much for a 1st edition copy and then if i don't find one ill let anyone know!

CaraMia- no, thats so nice of you but its really not neccessary! i was just really pissed when the albums like Gaucho and Katy Lied dissapered! Well they weer stolen. I AM FOR REAL~!! why does everyone keep saying that?? Is there a way that i could prove to everyone?? I will send you a pic through e-mail to prove it to you!

JWMalibu- hey, your coming to the hootiere too?? wow i get so excited each time i hear about someone coming!!

OMIO- Thanks for your edvice! I will definitly try that!

Talk to everyone later! I am real darnet!! hehe! Later
Michelle/IO

OMIO ~ Terry Haggerty was playing recently with Steve Kimock in his now-defunct band KVHW, which featured Kimock (guitars,including steel), Bobby Vega (monster bassman), Alan Hertz (a very young, hugely-talented drummer), and Ray White (vocals--formerly of Frank Zappa). Haggerty and Kimock were incendiary together; the five of these guys together was definitely some of best music I've ever had the pleasure of hearing. Did you get a chance to catch any of this? Kimock and Vega are currently playing in the Steve Kimock Band, which includes Pete Sears and Prarie Prince. I'm listening to a CD from 2/18/00 Great American Music Hall right now. That was a great show--actually an incredible president's weekend. Two shows there, then two at the Cal-Neva Resort on the north shore of Lake Tahoe. They are playing in Colorado right now; back at the GAMH July 7,8, and 9.

Andy ~ My Shoreline tickets were ordered online through TM on April 9th. I received them on April 26th. I've had it take much longer with them before. Now, Row M...that's interesting. Reminds me of the amplifier in Spinal Tap that goes to eleven. Well, it's one more, in'it? Maybe they are putting in a special row of recliners. Wouldn't that be nice, hmmm? Not familiar with that particular venue, so I can't help you there. Have fun!

Anyone get West Palm tix ?

I'm there.

TAMPA on sale tomorrow for any FL Danfestians...........

Q

StAl:

I'm sensing a little hostility along with your five-minute list of quality music. I wasn't saying there *hasn't been* any good music since 1993. Of course there has. I was merely agreeing with the comments Edd (I think it was Edd) made several weeks ago. He mentioned that he didn't have the time/patience/whatever to plow through all the stuff on the radio in order to find the good stuff. I remember thinking at the time ... "Yeah, me too." The thing is, StAl, you have to take into account that not everybody in the world has the kind of life that affords them the time to experience music to the extent that you have. Babies get born. Spouses become disabled and require special care. Work takes precedence over entertainment. Sleep becomes a luxury. I also think you are probably blessed with some decent radio stations. The ones around here are not what they once were, I'm afraid.

But I do appreciate the list and will try to broaden my musical experience, starting today.

Andy:
Rest assured, I have the exact same problem. Got seats for Merriweather, went cheap, opted for the "within two weeks" deal and haven't seen my tickets. According to my bank statement, however, TicketBastard sucked the $170+ out of my account. They were very efficient about that.

OMIO:
Jesse Cook? Try http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ts/artist-glance/109073/qid=957035761/ref=s_pm_rart1/103-8962273-1014254

AGNG: Oh yes.. The Sons Of Champlin.. Haggerty was the guitarists that other guitarists would pay to see.. TOP & The Sons cross-pollinate.. Mic Gillete, for example..
YGK knows a little about my personal connection to The Sons..
Or, Almost connection, as it turned out..
Good call, there..
Hey Innocent One.. One thing you can get from hanging out here is a musical education second to None! Follow the links, kiddo..
And see just how deep the rabbit hole goes..
There's a Wonderland of music out there.. I'm looking up Jesse Whathisname.. Is there a website for him?

Edd: and...so? I'd start with their last and work myself back. Whatever used to be my fave, but the first one may be more satsfying song by song although the diversity between songs and WITHIN songs is incredible. They cover or cram the last 100 years of great American music into something unique...err the "b--" thing - Ben Folds is on his 3rd wife by a little past 30 - probably runs both ways...
StAl: Wow - didn't know you were a Los Lobos fan - great stuff. Kiko and How Will the Wolf Survive - great stuff also. Gotta love REM Automatic for the People and Neville Bros. as well. I like the Teas-based Sixpence None the Richer singles - but haven't listened to the album.

StAl has provided a very solid list there and of course it goes on. If you only got your recommendations from this GB you would be checking out some fantastic music. Back up a bit, out from the veil of nostalgia, and there is always wonderful music in the continuum. You really can't even keep up with it if you try. I'm not sure about Cowboy Junkies though, mmmm.

Here in NC we are fairly proud of Chapel Hill's Ben Folds Five. I agree with the previous comments, however I prefer ther first album. My only problems with them are a: Their gratuitous use of the phrase "you bitch" on at least one song per album (Ben musta been hurt alot by chicks) and b: Them pissing Burt Bacharach off on his tribute special by kicking in the fuzz box on the bass during their cover of "Raindrops". By the way, Barenaked Ladies were on the same special. It was awesome for fans of Bacha's music. I got Gordon (BNL Album) when it was first released and was running all over town going "This is the shit". About 4-5 years later, they're massively popular. Call me Col. Tom Starmakermachinery. It was all me !!

Chere: I could never mean any ill will to you or Innocent. That's why I didn't name any names. You are obviously both great people with wonderful spirits. It's just that the whole issue of "burning" (CDs that is heH heh) and MP3s is a Trojan horse on the music industry. I've had people brag to me that they NEVER BUY music anymore. Hey, it's all FREE on the internet. So are groceries at the store if you steal them. Anyway, I got your eloquent (as always) e-mail and I'll write you a line sometime later today or tonight. Thanx for writing.

Everyone have a great weekend.

Here is a short list of performers putting out quality music since "1993"

Phish, Aquarium Rescue Unit, Dave Matthews Band, Allman Brothers, Lyle Lovett, Paperboys, Wallflowers, Red Hot Chili Peppers, REM, Rusted Root, Wilco, Sun Volt, Boz Scaggs, Lenny Kravitz, Soundgarden, The Sundays, Metalica, Megadeth, Pearl Jam, Squirrel Nut Zippers, Southern Culture on the Skids, Big Head Todd & the Monsters, Widespread Panic, Blues Traveler, Black Crowes, The Boneshakers, Cowboy Junkies, Ben Harper, Bruce Hornsby, Los Lobos, King Crimson, John Mellencamp, James McMurtry, Me'schell N'degeocello (sp?), Willis, Tom Waits, Peter Himmelman, Indigo Girls, Beth Orton, Counting Crows, John Hiatt, BoDeans, etc, ETC, ECETERA.

That took me 5 minutes. How many did I miss? At least as many as I remembered...

JW -- e-mail me with all the info on your GT: stalfnzo@seanet.com

EDD -- Yes, Ann is correct. However, I understood you..

Got a question for all attending the Merriweather and Nissan shows: have you got your hard-copy tickets from Ticketmaster yet? I went cheap and told them to send them to me through the mail "within two weeks". Needless to say, I haven't received them yet. Anyone else having similar problems?

Also, got my VA Beach tickets today-- they're awesome. Orchestra section 2, row M. Strangely enough, the seating map shows that Orchestra section 2 only has rows A-L. Anyway, the tickets sound like they're good-- whether or not the seats actually exist is another story altogether.

-Andy

Amen, YGK...

Aja/Stranger ~ I've got the basic page(s) templates done for the Southern California Hooteries ~ please e-me with any details as they firm up. I'll add info/links myself as well. The url is: www.thekatbox.com/casellastudio/schoots.htm

StAl ~ If you could link that page to your schedule, it would be much appreciated, bro!

You guys never cease to amaze me. Dr. Mu, Edd: I too have found it difficult (futile is perhaps a better word) plowing through new music to find the nugget or two that I like. Besides TvN, I own maybe three CDs that came out post 1993. They would be the two Ben Folds Five albums you mentioned and one Barenaked Ladies (Rock Spectacle). I know ballah will probably rip me a new one for liking "mainstreamers" like that, but so be it. I realize Barenaked Ladies are probably this year's Hootie and the Blowfish, and therefore totally uncool, but that shouldn't diminish "Brian Wilson" or any of the other great songs on Rock Spectacle.

Uh-oh ... almost forgot. I also own three Jesse Cook CDs -- really good Spanish-style guitar.

re: Any Hollywood...

I'm "finally" wrong?

You must be very excited thinking you're the one who "finally" bested me. But read again. I never stated definitively it was her. I said I believed it was. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Life goes on. Me being wrong is about as uncommon as sunrise.

However, feel free to revel in your glory.

re: BFF

They've been recommended to me often enough, by people who's taste I trust, that I should have at least tried them by now.

Edd: Regarding your request a week or so ago about newer pop music - based on the lists of fav songs I would have to suggest Ben Folds Five's "The Unauthorized Biography of Reinhold Meissner." Without being deliberate, this work is more reminiscent of the 60s and 70s songs you love without being deliberately retro. Like that romantic period (in the art sense not the Valentine) the melodies are lyrical and the feeling full as Ben Folds follows his muse as usual. Beautiful songs with a touch of Bacharach. This album is more cohesive and less quirky than the first, but not less brilliant, two album: eponymous and Whatever and Ever Amen. Great piano lead, innovative bass of the Entwhistle/McCartney lead idea but something different. Good use of orchestral and horn accents. BFF have a great sense of humor.
Limitations: the drumming is energetic and intricate, but could have better chops. Ben Folds voice is pleasant but a bit thin and off-key occasionally. I find it quite appealing though.

Edd- You're finally wrong. That was NOT Libby Titus at the Story Tellers show.

I will buy Innocent One a Steely Dan CD to replenish her collection and bring it as a San Diego beach-warming gift , because I too don't cotton to the trend of stealing sounds.
Have not downloaded MP3 and don't plan to.

Michelle, which fine work do you desire?
(Don't say the Boxed Set!!!) :-)

I hope you really are a teen-spirited, Dan-lovin' girl and not some figment pulling our collective chains.
Aja, is she for real?

cara mia, looking for my quad skates to bring to San Diego

.....I always loved the concept of 'Used Weights' for sale in the backs of newspapers. Somehow the free weight isn't as valuable since it has been lifted....
And interestingly enough - the more you 'lift' intellectual property, the less 'valuable' the property becomes.....
buy a fucking CD....
Good morning!

ygk

If you're willing to pay for a CD-R, why in the world would you not buy a legit copy? I regularly see Aja for $6-7.00 Less used.

During the Story Tellers show, the camera cuts a number of times to an attractive woman in the audience. Dark hair. Beautiful smile.

I believe she's Libby Titus.

steviedan- If your'e still looking for the great drummer out there... I am totally serious, e mail me propa and I'll give you his ph # in Salisbury NC near YOU. He is DA DRUMMIN PERCUSSION MAN. He LIVES his drums and has played since he was like 5 or something. Before I was born anyway. He's so great and I am sooo not being biased here, he plays on anything, the car dashboard, the wall, his chest, my bongos, his chest, whenever drums are not accessible and he sings too. AND from what I understand Mercury Dime is No More, and when he was at my crib at Christmas he was feeling like trying somwhere else musically to get in. Bandwise I mean- some new dudes to jam with. Ceiling Zero is a side gig project and he has some other thing too. All that AND a job. AND All that Musician politics you guys go thru. Hope you got my drift in the personal e mail. Big props! Mean it Nuff said! -chere

steviedan- check your e mail.
I see 'tis only us two holdin it down in the wee hours. maybe we should oraganize a late nite chatting session sometime.
peace- chere

Barney: Confirm: Can you spell D-I-N-(O)-S-A-U-R ?

Please return to the Limp Bizkit site....now go on.

Even when I am able to have a free promo copy of a CD by an artist I love, I will give it to someone else and purchase a copy for myself. I want the Steve Morses, Alan Holdsworths, Chris Potters of the world to be able to continue making music. Support it with your $$$$. Even supreme love for it will not keep it alive.

I'm not sure that AGNG's ten ton hint is being scooped by the folks continuing the "burning" conversation.

Now I'm sure to many of us, D&W are just bigtime millionaires and not in need of our dimes. I'm sure that if you were able to ask them, they would tell you that those dimes floated the boat for many years and still do. I'm sure that to them, the thought of us networking with each other here to pirate or burn copies of their music would make them visibly wince. And it should. Lesser artists with lower sales and networking fans will be Darwinized by the internet and piracy. Lost sales mean less tours, options not renewed. I know record companies are corporate evil embodied often, but that is the distribution route chosen (or hoist upon) for now by artists such as our boys.

I'm sure nobody here means anything but pure brother/sistahood offering to Share the Dan (didn't the guess who do that song), but for musicians who have to eat and put kids through college, it would not be cool. Sure, stuff that is not commercially available like radio shows, even bootleg live stuff IMHO is AOK. But to burn people copies of AJA ? Please give the boys their dimes. It's not too much to ask, particularly for regular post toasties like you guys. How much joy have they given you ? Pay 'em for god's sake, it's their living.

confirm("do you like dinasaurs?")

ps ~ I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy, but unfortunately in my case, it's too late...

Danger on the Rocks/Home at Last has always been very high on my list of favorites. (Listening to WOH via headphones right now, and Mr. Potter is distracting me. Darn him ; ) I remember a beautiful summer afternoon on Lake Tahoe, cruisin' in a good friend's boat, pulling into Emerald Bay and avoiding the rocks while this particular song blasted from his speakers. Our smiles were huge and so were everyone's passing by. I was with my younger brother, a drummer, who had enlightened me to the Dan, at about the same time I turned him on to the Dead. It was one of those moments that will never be forgotten.

Anyway, dare I repeat myself?

Today's vocabulary lesson: Copyright infringement. Look it up if you have to. Good luck.

Jazzfest is well in full swing

wow
this afternoon saw Gatemouth Brown, Dr John and the Allman Bros.
and the women coming up and asking to dance with the wurling dervish was quite nice

ahh back tommorrow and sunday for mo crawfish monica

almost got there, almost got there, almost gothic

Diego it is. I plan to attach myself to some crome bumper somewhere and hitch the big interstates

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy

wormboytoy

Whew! I made it, HOME AT LAST.

I've been Abby Normal for a few days but I am sloowly regaining my strength. Couldn't manage to type but I could scroll, a couple of very interesting days here, lots to talk about.

I only have one real meaningful item in regards to Mr. Poot,

Even though I'm certain that his Hot Wheels pc (you've all seen the ad's, right?) will be unable to locate this site again, let me just say (with a nod to Mrs. Turnbull) "if you don't have any thing nice or coherent to say, keep your trap shut!" Perhaps a little more baby powder next change might help.

I'll be Back soon.

Good evening to all and....

Peace, Love and DAN

Razor

Hello to all! Glad to feel all of the joy and excitement as the shows get closer and closer to each and every one of you. So cool. I am still sick as hell. This one is a real bugger for me. The nasty kind of bug you get once every few years, that kinda knocks at your door and says "Prepare for battle! "No warning, BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

Sooutrageous: check your e mail when you get time. I feel a big BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM comming on...... Like one time, my 'brothers" gave me a real stick of dynamite for my sixteenth birthday and we went out to this old ghosttown place west of Homestead "In da woods" and blew it up. I think that area was washed away by Hurricaine Andrew. But Oh, it was sweet time then. Such an appropriate gift for a JUJU girl born on the fourth of July.

Innocent one: We have a burner- I can burn whatever you want to disc. That goes for anyone else too. Remember too, that if you have a DVD, and use it to play discs because your CD player died, (ours did) a burned disc copy will sometimes not work in them. Just for FYI. Home At Last is one of my Faves too. Especially that "scat" part in it. Makes me feel like George Benson when I sing along. And the chunky phat horns Gawd!!!! Make me wanna holler!

Steviedan: I think my uncle is touring right now, I tried calling him- I am the ONLY connection to him in our family. Specially with my lil sis geting married and everything, everyone is gahtering for the first time in one spot KEY MOTHER FUCKING WEST BY GOD in twenty years. It will be so great. Everyone has been Blowing up my phone and answ machine looking for him. But he feels me strong, he'll call me at three AM within the week from some LOUD gig somewhere to share his energy. And I will smile........he will feel like Jesus, as musicians often do after a good gig. My Little Drummer Boy.......Who else do you know out of NC gigging? Just curious.

Ole: I have'nt forgotten you. Just so much going on right now with me. I must say, there are connotations in more songs than just Two vs Nature. What are your thoughts on this? I mean I feel it all over the new album. My fever dream would be long and very descriptive. Is that cool? Let me know.

I am foggy with my "remedies" so I will sign off for now. My JuJu flowing strong for all my fellow brethren and sistren in the world of everything "DAN".

Blessings, chere

"..Garcia, on a good night, was one of the Best, Ever!"

Amen.

Tower of Power, another wonderful bay area band that I have been into since the 70's. I downloaded that mp3 file yesterday but I'm having trouble opening it. I'll figure it out, 'cause the funky doctor is worth it.

Another absolutely top-notch bay area band from the 70's was the Sons of Champlin. Bill Champlin singing, and Terry Haggerty on lead guitar, with a burning horn section and great rhythm section, and sometimes Geoff Palmer on vibes etc. They got back together briefly about two years ago and played some gigs and recorded one for a CD. It came out very nice. Sons of Champlin -- Live. Steely Dan fans would be most appreciative, I think.

Best line from Ruthless People:

Bette Midler, sobbing - "I've been kidnapped by K-Mart!"

Hutch....no worries, we've got it covered. Have a good gig and a great time with the Dan Fans this weekend!

Midnite Cruiser - Check your e-mail. Reprint! Reprint!

Do you know the way to San Jose?
I'm going back
to find some peace of mind
in San Jose
(or something like that)
http://www7.mercurycenter.com/premium/ent/docs/poptix28.htm

I know this has bee reported before, but this gives more details. D & W certainly deserve it!
http://news.excite.com/news/pr/000428/ca-ascap-steely-dan

- Q you want to go?

Local radio station was giving away tickets to the show before they go on sale tomorrow if you could answer this question-
What famous actor and commedian played drums with them when Walt Becker refered to their band as not very good?

of course I never got through.

..Garcia, on a good night, was one of the Best, Ever!
Sadly, he had fewer good nights as time and junk took their toll..
The Dead's last couple of tours were courtesy of the DEA, who made a deal following his bust in GG Park.. Specifically, Jerry stayed out of jail as long as they kept touring, because the narcs had a huge undercover operation going with the parking lot crowd..
The best drummer from the Bay Area was Dave Garibaldi, of Tower Of Power.. In fact, the best 2 piece rhythm section around is Prestia & Garibaldi.. One of the few bands that can stand nose to nose & stare SD straight in the eye without blinking..
Want proof?
www.strokeland.com.. Listen to the little mp3 there..
Hey, don't pick on Clas anymore.. He's basically un-armed.. Just dig what you can of his offerings on the GB Comp..
One should always be remembered for the good they do..
Shouldn't they?
That's the Cowboy Way.. (Hi-Yo Silver!)

Personally, I'm real happy with what I've got. Gonna see Steely Dan three times in June. The Steve Kimock Band four times in July. And the Furthur Festival in August/September. And the incredible High Sierra Music Festival over the Fourth of Ju-lye weekend. What a line-up. And many other great and varied musical offerings. Looking good.

Today's vocabulary lesson: Copyright infringement...

Hutch....Opti's printer bit the dust today but we have another....will try to get it going tomorrow and print and mail the cover art by Sunday.

VaBeach tix in the morning and Raleigh on Monday morn!! *YAY*

DanFans,

Get a grip. Be happy that you have the opportunity
to see any line-up playing B&Fs stuff. Yes, it
would be extremely cool to have an enGORGEment or
Red Rocks or some other heady venue to see SD with
oh maybe 30 original players rotating in and out.
But no, we aren't gonna, and so what. Now I'm
picturing 1000 danfans, following a show like that,
slammin' some Kool-aid from the cup o' Death, 'cause
they've "seen it all."
The mincing of words here reminds me of the oh so lame
exchanges my friends have over Roger Waters having
sucked because that Dave's guitar was absent.
Wait till Becker or Fagen dies... that's right...
and then absense will take on a new meaning.
Allusion: Can't see the Beatles anymore... damn.
"Exactly," says Jeff Porcaro.

Found out my seats to Pine Knob: LCTR, U, 3-4.

"Ida Lee it's you, I'm dreaming oooooooof"

Michelle: Sorry to hear that. If I had extra copies I would give them to you - I would. The good news is that the new remasters (we're awating Gaucho) can be bought for $10-11/ea at a discount CD store or even a Walmart. I bought two of the remasters at Walmart believe it or not within 4 days of the release date when CDNow could not get their act together. No wonder the stock has lost more than 1/2 it's value in the last year.

Still I remain tied to the mast

Ok, i'm sorry but Home at last is becoming one of my favorites! I love that song so much. Does anyone have a CD burner because i used to have every Steely Dan CD but they got stolen. I would pay for the Burn Cds!!
Lemme know
Michelle/ IO

Damn, how could I forget Aretha, Marvin Gaye and another sad song: Vincent by Don McLean. Anyone else have a soft spot for Herb Alpert and TJBB? I’ve always liked Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White, and talk about racy album covers, you young ‘uns should check out Whipped Cream and Other Delights.

ballah: re: Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, you forgot about your health... Here’s wishing you some of that Ashe O chere spoke of, if you can utilize it propa like.

Dr. Ruth or Ruthless: What is an Aujapist? Or should I say could you please define Aujapist?

re: Mindy Jostyn: I had the opportunity to see this artist in a small outdoor concert back in 1998 and she was great. A very strong voice, plays a few instruments and some very fine songs. If you ever get the chance to catch a show of hers chances are you will not be disappointed.

Raptor;

Takes one to know one. Maybe none of us had as much info as you do or maybe you're just the King of the World. Shut Up.

Kid Clean -
SD tickets went on sale in my area two weeks ago. I was on the keyboard with a 56k modem, my wife was on the phone with the numbers set on speed dial. By the time I secured six seats in the 12th row center, she had just broken thru the busy signal & was on hold. Here are some tips; Prior to the sale time, get on the Ticketmaster site for your show. Set your address and CC info into their "Fast Order" feature. Bring up the seating chart for your venue. About two minutes before sale time, begin to hit the "refresh" button constantly. When sales begin, an "on sale" ball will appear in the upper rightcorner. Click on it, & follow the instructions. Once you see the seats offered, you'll have 5 minutes to check their location and complete the transaction. With a T1 connection, you should burn thru in no time. Good luck & enjoy the show.
Regarding the lack of response to your post, the sad fact of this site is that it is inhabited by some of the most arrogant, self-centered pseudo-sophisticates/intellectuals that I've had the displeasure of crossing on the net. They're so wrapped up in their trite nonsense that they don't have the common courtesy to answer a simple question. That's a shame.

I'd once again like to thank Sooutrageous for the tape that arrived in today's mail... thankyouthankyouthankyou

As to young Poot; see how wrong you are?

Hey everyone, Ok tell me this is not the stupidest thing ever, one of my teachers got offered 3rd row Steely Dan Tickets and he turned them down, i was like ok don't even talk to me beacuse he could have given those to me. DAMN HIM!! hehe, um well i FINALLY have a lot to respond too--

Ms. Turnbull- ok <3 means Love, DUH!~ and it is fun. exclamation points are greeeeeat because they express the way that i would acutally be talking! ha! so talk about something cool, dont base your posts on negative energy, it will come back to you!

CaraMia- I know how to skate a little bit lower huh? Well, thats cool! haha! How are you? i can't wait to meet you. you seem like the coolest person, well everyone on here does but you are so funny! You said that you were going to e-mail me with your Mug, so i can't wait to meet you. Acutally we might be meeting at old town, so we will see! :)

KD- I still don't understand, ok, you know i'm under 18. but what is this about there seemed to be a lot going on and then nothing like almost negative gothic whatever said?? :)

Daddy G- Hey! You are such a sweetie! :)

later everyone, pleas dont' hesitate to contanct me!
michelle

Dear young Master Poot:

Please report to Ms. Turnbull at once regarding certain spelling lessons that were not done. The rest of you are dismissed. Good day.

Steeley Dan?? I thought they were done by now. Jesus no one wants to hear some washed up musiciansin their late forties. Yaa all are a bunch of sore losers

Hutch: A gold star for you.

KD: If I recall correctly there was a post from Innocent One way back that mentioned <3. If that is an indication of her age then her typing skills and maybe even her vocabulary very impressive.

Roo D: psst! Do you want my jello cup? Hurry up, before Nurse Ratchet catches us. I’ll try and distract her with a stupid joke. Oh Nurse!? What kind of food do they serve in a loony bin? Bananas, crackers, nuts and fruitcake. Snort, giggle, guffaw, laugh, tee he! (Say, what ever happened to Ruth Buzzie?)

Innocent One: Oh, sure it’s all fun and games until someone puts an eye out from exclamation point overuse. Besides if you don’t think I’m being fun, maybe you are too young to understand something like dry humor. Perhaps the loony bin food joke is more your liking for now (although your musical taste seems quite sophisticated).

When all my dime dancin' is through
I run to you...

Kid-I don't think anyone used the phone for tickets. The Internet has the usual hassles but is easier to get through than the phone.

Aja

More Boston/Southern NE news:

Just to remind everyone--the offish site is wrong, Meadows tix on sale tomorrow at 10am. I called. It's true.

Is no one willing to advise on phone vs. internet ticket sales??

For those GBers in the Boston area....

Mindy Jostyn is playing at the
Natick Center for Performing Arts
Friday, April 28th. 8:00pm show.

I would have posted it earlier had I known
she was gone....but not forgotten.

Mark in Boston

Libby was also in a brief scene in the Robin Williams
film "Awakenings". She is the lounge singer.

I second the bring back Mindy nomination.

St Al: how about a newer pic of our heroes on the GB. that circa 70's photo at the top makes the GB look like a nostalgia site.

ballah/sugar daddy or whatever the fuck you're calling yourself now, I thought you were on your way to amsterdam?
that's mighty big talk for a community college educated philosopher. now, can you entertain us with a limerick about mother theresa and that man from nantucket while you're on a roll.

Bring back Mindy Josten!

St Al -- More bitching. I do miss the Webring link at the top of the page...

Just Curious --- I have a drunken review of a tape of Libby singing a great Al Kooper song, "Fool That I Am" on SNL back in the late 1970s. It was on tv back in October, I taped it, went out to a party and watched and typed pretty sauced. Anyway, she was very pretty, her voice was beautiful, and the song was top notch. If I remember correctly, there's some guy from the South Pacific that has a Libby Titus site up.

Sugar Daddy -- don't be a dickhead. Bebe Buell makes Libby look like Ella Fitzgerald.

Jeez, sugar daddy! That's Don Fagen's Wife you're talking about!
Bad territory to invade....If he loves her like I love my wife
your ass would be in a Sling. David

Beast, sadly for me, how right you are. I'm sitting here deperately trying to market my pirated garange band tapes, watching old Annette Haven videos with the sound muted, while listening the The Moody Blue's 'Days of future Past" with my every-ready-girlfriend Rosie.

I coulda been a contenda! I coulda been somebuddy! Dat night at da gawden...........

Sugar Daddy: Tough talk about Steely Don's wife. You sound like a frustrated artist, perhaps one without a recording contract.

Libby Titus represents the epitome of the pathetic sycophantic "Groupie Culture". She's not unlike Liv Tyler's mom(Beebee Whoever) who fucked everyone from Todd Rundgren and Steven Tyler to Warren Zevon and everyone inbetween. If the dude has a recording contract has long hair and could get them backstage passes they're be more than willing to engage in a little persuasive'bartering." Mariannne Faithful was the UK Queen Groupie. They all have psuedo-careers as models or musicians but never amount to anything but "arm candy" for their rock star daddies.

Good King Richard, Aja:

I had the same instant Kama experience this week. I was in a used CD store the day before yesterday, grabbed a used copy for eight bucks (mine other copy is on permanent loan, I'm afraid) and now I get it too.

That lyric in Josie is definitely "*never* had" on the album version.

look, ballah's talking to himself again

The new page on the official SD page looks like mugshots of them......well i think thats appropriate,for the prices for tickets are the same as being mugged......getting what traffic will bear is the official Casto Party Line here......but i really think the good seats are overpriced......we are all not former Yuppies.....

HELP! I need advice. Tickets go on sale tomorrow for New Jersey, and my wife and I will be flying up to catch the PNC show and Jones Beach. My question is, which method is proving better to obtain the best tickets- phone or internet (I have access to a cable modem connection).
Also, anyone know when Jones Beach tix go on sale?
thanks in advance for your help!

The net doesn`t have much tosay about Libby Titus....cut A COUPLE records and hung out with the Upstate New Yorkers music scene and was Levon Helm`s lover.......AMY`S mother and now Donald`s wife......Did she own a nightclub called Lone Star....was she a writer in the Joni Mitchell style......did she have a good voice???????????what makes her a figure in pop culture? oh yea she went to the same college as Donald did, but never met him there.

make that "my coworkers are USED to that by now"

(making coffee before I accidentally send the other side our case strategies)

Aja

sooutrageous-I'm tempted, tempted, tempted.......(sorry, Clas. You're still my sugarpie honeybunch)

cara mia-gorgeous, pre-med triathlete? That made me laugh out loud (my co-workers are to that by now). I definitely can't live up to that, but if anyone thinks that, let 'em! One thing you will find out for sure: we know how to have a great time here! Bring your friends-the more the merrier. I'll put together that hotel list and prices this weekend.

ole-I SWEAR the lyric is "never had", even though it doesn't say it. I heard the same thing on 2vN, though the exact song is escaping me right now.

Good King Richard-I pulled out Kama yesterday and had the same experience. After 2vN, I'm suddenly "getting" Kama and enjoying it much more.

Aja

~i just purchased tickets for wilkes-barre show online through etm. i purchased 3 'single' tickets feeling that my chances at single selection were more favorable. i got first row, center section, seats, 17, 18(simply by coincidence) and second row seat 2 near the aisle. the front & center seats should put me directly in front of donald if the band's arranged similar to the pbs and vh1 gigs. haven't been this close since fagen's 'little big band' days at the china club! ........do i hear any worthwhile offers?!

steve

St.Al: Yeah, that's the one. The way DM was mumbling I was simply assuming that it was hiw South African accent - will be on the lookout for the whole band...then that was ale on his upper lip, not sweat?!

Hoops line about Bad Sneakers making him long for New York and he hadn't even been there, he was from Chicago - was great...and set up the whold map fiasco gag. I've watched it again last night - it's funnier every time. The best dumb line set-up was the question the woman asked near the beginning of the show whether they could remember any songs that were real from start to finish - the way she phrased it Donald was able to quip something like: "Yeah, we just now played a couple all the way through - Didn't you hear..." Classic. Sure beats the hell out of the self-indulgent endless blathering by Townshend or Henley, plus we get in more real music.

Dr MU -- Not sure if you could see me on the VH1 thing (and that's saying a lot)? Hoops, however, was the star of the show. Regarding Dave on VH1. That, most certainly was not a good representation of what the band is capable of. I think Dave was drunk. I'm assuming you saw the acoustic thing with he and Tim Reynolds? Speaking of Tim Reynolds. Dr., I've got to tell you that I doubt anyone on this board could even aspire to be in this guys league. Tim is an amazing guitar player. You just didn't see him do his thing. Dave has always held the position that he isn't a musician compared to the rest of his band. He writes and sings. Tim Reynolds is definitely a SD caliber musician, along with the rest of the band.

I wasn't real keen on DMB until I saw them live. Once I did it was all over...

Q. How do brain cells from people from Arkansas die?

A. alone

TOP TEN REASONS I (I mean the Attourney General) invaded a Miami home before dawn Saturday taking Elian

10. Do you like my new blue dress?

9. Hell, the fisherman is a janitor and he's Italian anyway

8. Who is the Gaucho amigo?

7. That was a suspicious-looking squirt gun I saw on Elian

6. Do you like my new blue dress? It's a mini

5. Someone painted my 4 Red Blazers white

4. What's an 11th Circuit Court?

3. President Clinton wanted to try the "cut and paste" mode with that newfangled Adobe Photoshop program

2. I meant to getting around to reading the Constitution Friday, but was too busy

1. Now Elian can't tell the difference between the USA and Cuba

Just heard Janie Runaway on a mainly jazz and eclectic Chattanooga (my town in my other life and 100 miles away) public station WUTC, 88.1...

It has made a rainy Friday interesting.

One of my missions in the world of cyber is to convert bytes and bleeps into reality, so KD, Hutch, Almost Neg. Girl, I will hit the beaches of San Diego and get the proof that indeed:

1-Aja is a gorgeous pre-med legal beagle triathelete
2-JWMalibu can surf and sing at the same time
3-Worm man really will inch his way cross-country
4-Innocent One does know how to skate a little lower

If they and others allow it, I will digitalize our adventures for your enjoyment.

cara mia

Clas, here in the U.S. we sometimes call our country "America." This may be confusing to some, but here in the States we can have more than one word for the same thing, and a word can even mean more than one thing! Pretty confusing, huh? Thing is, though, most Americans are fortunate enough to have a fully developed language center in their brain to comprehend these concepts, though it can get problematic at times when communicating with those who are deficient in this area. You see, there really is no other good way to descibe a United States citizen other than "American."

KD, Almost Neg Girl - I totally thought the same thing. Seems like we're in the middle of an SNL sketch doesn't it?

SS=Q

"Steely Dan and the Dead ARE both from "America"."

SouthAmerica or NorthAmerica? Canada?? Venezuela???

DMB, what is that standing for? Damaged Minimal Brain?

And for Greatful Dead, the marathon gigs they used to do was only because of the PHM.

PHM is standing for Pot, Heroin & Money.

StAl - please, three dots, not four or seven or two, three (3).

Joker - great artdesign, love it.

Lars - hey, that would be great, where did you hear that?

Aja - you sugarpie, I can hardly wait.

sir Clas von Adlercreutz

PS/ The Stranger - ehh, forgot to say, use gloves... for christs sake, use gloves when you handle those mattresses.

St. Al- I like the new header - now if we could somehow get that spell checker working ...

I actually can't wait to hear this album. SD is hot right now:
http://www.mtv.com/news/headlines/000427/story6.html

Black Minnie: that's the best handle I've seen yet.

Mr. Beemer: Nice, new, small graphics. We need some faster downloads on the new frontier--plus the Fagenphone is easier to visualize when Donald is chewing on a mouthpiece.

"Stella Stevens or Steely Dan?" That's the theme of the informal workshops I'll be presenting over the next 12 weeks. Check your local listings and don't forget the 15 watt bulbs if you plan on joining in on the fireworks.

Oprah's Pick,

Minnie

Huge Fan -- eww.

I hope that was a joke. And I hope you weren't sober, then and now.

Wynton Kelly only plays on 'Freddie'...

Speaking of the Dead, I saw Phil Lesh and friends last week. The show really wasn't that good,(BORING, NOT ENOUGH DRUGS) and I really liked the Dead. It just got me more pumped up for the SD shows this summer.

St.Al- I like the new headers on this page. It doesn't take me 5 minutes to get loaded in anymore. I still think Dave Matthews sucks. I think I'm a little to old for his music.(43)

Moray- LOL!

When I was 22 I tried to screw my cousin. I got rejected as well. There really was a Cousin Dupree in my family...ME!

HF

Mr Chow: Was good to meet with you all that time ago - Sorry to take quite so long to get back on board: it's been hell and I haven't been back in town since. So, you finally got the 'SD special' set up. If you're taping... and can spare a copy, please remember me (don't think I can get down to the 'gong on a Wednesday). I could always subpoena a copy of the log tapes (if you know what I mean!).

Hi all... seems like Oz'll miss out AGAIN.. but good to see so many happy ticket bearers.

Anyone, like me, ever had difficulty getting into Karmakiriad? Well, somehow, it seems a whole lot easier and better after wearing out TAN (fortunately I have a spare copy) and it's barely had a challenger in the past week or so. Why not give it a whirl?

Maybe it's just the onset of Winter.

"Snowbound, lets sleep in today. Wake me up..."

Richard&kangaroos

Steely Dan and the Dead ARE both from "America". That is a true statement. They both can be one of America's greatest bands in any given tune. The only difference is that the GD can also be one of the worst bands in America within the SAME tune. I respect the Dead and own much of their music, partially in tribute to a fallen friend who was their HUGEFAN. D&W would immediately fire those drummers for not being able to keep grooves in corduroy pants. With respect deserved largely by the Dead at heart, I personally dismiss any musical or physical similarities between the two bands, other than both being comprised of mainly aging white males and said males residing in America.

Ahh the Dave Matthews Band. I used to refer to him as the "singing leprecaun", what with that vocal sound and that funny little one-legged jig. You know, that was around the first album, before he was signed. Since then, his overall sound has grown on me somewhat, particularly the live albums. This, in part, is why I would refer to them as the "Carter Beauford Band". This guy is a Dan-level (not said lightly) playa. The other guys are statues (sax) or windup toys (violin). Now Tim Reynolds is a great player, but not a fulltime member yet (I don't think). I can take Dave fairly well now. He does have A style and he can pick drummers. That is all very important

Chere: I am familiar with the band Mercury Dime, but not Rocky's. Bear in mind that this is coming from an old married cat who only goes out on weekends to play music for money. No gig and I'm home chillin' with my Chillins. There is a club in the area named Woody's. I played there a few times. It's just what it sounds like (semi-biker/redneck/yuppie pool hall). If you talk to your uncle, find out who he's playing with currently and where. I'll check him out !!

steviedanpeaceout

On that Irvine Danfest, having trouble getting mail to M. Fowler and David Castro. Email me.

Minah---Thanks for the URL for Irvine and sorry not to connect out that way. Enjoy your NE venue.

JWMalibu and other LA folks---which nights??????

Aja---gettin' excited here too! My good friend in LA is a paralegal also. I hope she can make it down for the show.
Thanks for the offer of help in booking rooms, etc. We want to be convenient to the doings, so we will confer via email.

I.O. Ms Michelle--I am in section 101, row Q, 49-50
for San Diego. Will look forward to meeting you and will send you an email with my mug so you know how to spot me. You have good taste in music.

cara mia

St. Al: wow, I like it, but I also loved the other one. Did Rudy/Joker (am I right on the names?) do it? Any idea where those old images were taken from?

I guess I took them for granted.

oleander-- no, I missed it. I read the NY Times' bball section daily, the actual paper not as often as I should, but they forget to give out the magazine part on the website every so often. Last year the mag had a feature on Latrell Sprewell by the Times' head bball writer that infuriated me and every other member of the NBA community (not that I'd consider myself a huge part of, but hey...). Mike Wise, he be a sell out. Thanks, though, I'll have to poke around the site to find it.

Innocent One- I knew you were under18, it's just, eh. Nevermind...There seemed to be a whole lot of things going on, and then nothing at all, as Almost Gothic Negative Girl mentioned.

moray eel - lol

Hoops-- I meant to email this to you, maybe here will suffice. You had the best question of all, the one that meant the most, even if they kind of dodged it. They give us the hints of the things that they love/missed about NYC, but never really spoke out about them in interviews (save for dissing the guys who 'shoot the shit about the Mets on the stoop'). Anyway, great composure, proper respect, excellent question.

I'd ask The Two what inspired them to write 'Dead Skunk.'

Str & Str--hey, mind if I sit on your lap? Just during the show. I'll lean so you can see past me.

lisa--baybee. E me! I gotta be with you guys come Sept. 1! I've written about seeing them in Charlotte with Bela Fleck. It was outrageous--licksmanship to the nth.

KD--Did you see the article in last week's NY Times Mag on Phil Jackson? Very detailed, very interesting. If you can't get your mitts on it, e me and I'll send you a copy.

tom--I always heard "best friend we never had" on the "Aja" "Josie," and loved it--but the lyric sheet says "ever," and they pretty clearly say "ever" on "AIA." Too bad. Another one of those lovely little twists.

almost gothic negative girl: Ahhhhh. You are not alone, not by a long shot! Been reading this board off and on for 2 years and once in awhile the topic surfaces. There's a connection that many of us feel.

Someone wrote a nice piece that's archived on one of these sites. Can anyone help me here? I'll look for it. Also W has been quoted as saying he envied the Dead for their ability to keep the same core of players together and the opportunities that situation creates.

The thing that unites the two for me is that they are quintessentially american bands (not in any patriotic sense, but musically) with a unique sound direct from their coastal roots --Bay Area for the Dead and NYC for the Dan. That, plus they're great to dance to.

Glad you brought it up. . .

hey everyone!

--KD-- Well you are right, didn't you ever read the posts before about how i thought that I was the youngest steely dan fan ever?? Well like i said you were right, i am under 18! haha!
But I thought that everyone already knew that!

--Chere-- yes! That sounds awesome! Lets totally e-mail back and forth! I love to talk over e-mail! You can call me either one, i don't know if there is another Michelle on the guest book so, ya know, we can say, Michelle in the e-mails and Innocent One on the post :)

--SS-- hey! Thats awesome.

I was really pissed because i totally got up early and got a password for the earl ticket period thing and i got my tickets at 10:15 and i got section 103, but the next morning my other friends got front row center because i guess all the tickets were released and so i was almost in tears! But it's totally better then nothing so hey, i'm happy! well anyways, talk to ya'll later~!~
IO/Michelle

...he ask *them*...

Chere: Didn't he ask him the the Bad Sneakers question which prompted Donald to ask for the NYC map prop? I know he's from Chicagoland I was sure they would swing into Janie Runaway after that.

For you Jimmy Buffett fans out there, Donald will be singing "I Wish I Had A Pencil Thin Mustache" during the tour this summer.

m.e.

Hey St. Al: Was that you I saw in the crowd at VH1 or just a shadow? Just flipped through VH! and there was Dave Mathews!...gave it a listen for a few minutes. A nice melody, thoughtful lyrics - sounded a little like a mellow Pete Thonshhend with some Joni Mitchell and Genesis. But really the stuff was pretty simple and a bit derivative. I mean I could almost figure out the chords the guitarist next to him was playing thus barely passing my criterion: "If I could do it, it can't be art!" Then he stole a line from Little Feat! Pleasant though

A big "Hallo" to all.

Innocent one/Michelle- which do you prefer? Glad you got a laugh out of that. I really had to resist the urge to really blast her here on the GB. I'd gladly e mail back and forth ad so and so to correspond. And of course in the Propa "Babylon and on and on Sista fashion."

sououtrageous- got your e mail, I will e mail back soon. Your enthusiasm INSPIRES me. EMPOWERS me. You the 'El Supremo major Dude" that you be chile'.

I am still sick as hell. Nasty cold and HATING it. Big baby when I'm like this, fever dreams and all. I was out in my urban garden in a blanket sitting in the morning Florida sun. Oh how I would love to tour the Southland someday. I have a perpetual invitation to partake in a VouDou ceremony there with the illustrator of the New Orlean's VouDou Tarot Card deck. Very POWERFUL cards. She does some beautiful artwork also for items esoteric and spiritual in nature. I really would've also loved if they had a little more o dat "chunky" horn flowing on the Storytellers gig. I do feel soooo blessed I got to catch the show, it was great fun all the same. I don't pay too much attention to the idiot box, but I had the shit rigged for in stereo sound and everything. lit a few candles and then the magic happened......
So am I to understand that "Hoops" is the cool DANFAN who was just a spinnin' after answering Walter's lyric trivia? Hoops , Peace Brother. Not much else to say except I am off to bed- serious medicine head and I drank a tea I conjured up about a half hour ago - my medicinal JUJU is kickin' in.
My best to you all.
Ashe O to you all. -chere

Great job SS!

So, a month ago, I enjoyed the last few days of my spring break at home. On Final Four Saturday, after mowing the lawn for the first time of the year and before heading out to the hometown parties, I took in a trip to the mailbox and brought up that Red Hot Chili Peppers Rolling Stone.

On the way up the driveway, mine eyes see the Levon Helm headline, and, in addition to really looking forward to seeing an interview with a member of one of my favorite bands (no pun intended), I was hoping for an Amy Helm mention. Libby Titus would have been nicer, then Donald, then perhaps a mention of Helm on TvN. That would have been crazy, right?

But reading that article, and getting in two pictures of Amy, a mention of Donald and Libby, and the story behind the whistle. How it was the only way she could communicate with her father, who happens to be one of the most imaginative singer of the last 30 years. How she whistled on 'Cousin Dupree,' the type of song the gents in the Band could probably come up with. How she gave her father the impetus to play again after losing his friends, his Band, his money, and his voice. How it all fits.

Then Mr. Sheffield's cute essay on The Two. I enjoyed how he used song titles and lyrics within the essay without actually putting quotation marks around the words, leaving the reader with the impression that Rob is one hell of a writer when in effect Donald and Walter are the damn good ones in question. Otherwise, nice job. Then the combined effect of the review quote and album cover on the back page, the sort of publicity that money can buy.

Sorry, Innocent One, you seemed to be flaunting this sort of eloquent-yet-17-year-old AOL-IM prose that was either legit or the work of an insane genius.

Speaking of Walt, whoa, Domino.

Potent conversation the last few days, almost harkening back to the glory days of the GB that I had nothing to do with. I dig.

Holy F)&$#^*

I just got 2nd row Sec B (center) tix for the Vegas Dan show. Daddy's gonna get tight("everynight"), passout on the bar room floor" tonight baby......

God I love this life.

God Bless Don & Walt.

SS

hello everyone!! To, Aja, Tom, Edd, Caramia, and Ruby baby i look forward to meeting you all! Wow it's going to be so cool!
Almost gothic negative girl-- I hope you weren't talking about me!!
By the way, my name is Michelle
later everyone

Michelle

KD ~ Perfect timing. Although the thought had briefly crossed my mind several days back, that question really came to me in full force a few posts ago. Then I read your comment two seconds later and went hmmm, I was just thinking the same thing.

I may be alone here with this next statement, but so what. Steely Dan and the Grateful Dead have been my two favorite bands since the 70's. Very different. Very tasty. One extremely tight and controlled. The other one ; ) so loose and jammin' the outer limits. The best of both worlds. Variety is the spice of life. And life is sweet.

Crimpshrine rules!

KD: i'm for real! what do you mean :(

iz

innocent one

for real?

???

or is someone playing with us?

Chere-- Oh my gosh that was so funny! I totally agree about that lady who was like the lyrics kinda shocked me. I was like you dumb ass! thats the way Steely Dan is, didn't you know that?? Well not always, but they're cooky! It's awesome though! Well i had to share that because it was totally funny i was like AHH your dumb! they could have used that presious time to sing more of "do it again." WAYYYYYYY to short! Maybe they will have them on tape. Well anyways, we need to talk girl, it sounds like we could really relate
IO

CaraMia- hey whats up?? You are coming to the san diego show?? How cool i will be there too!! Where are you sitting. If you dont' want to tell me over the GB e-mail me. brassmonkey2@hotmail.com Wow so i get to meet you how cool. I'm already excited to meet Aja!!

Ole- soo sorry, it was a joke but i wont say that anymore. sorry for not concidering others feelings. Forgive me? :(

Earth worms are easy-- I LOVE janie runaway! I think that it was C because i think that you are the one who posted the questiong. um, wow are you coming to san diego too?? wow! this is so exciting. I will actually get to meet you too!! wow this is so cool!!

Razor Boy- hey how ya doing? haven't talked to you in a WHILE!!

Later eveyone have a great day!

April 21, 2000

Nash Kato Goes Solo

For his debut solo album, former Urge Overkill guitarist-vocalist Nash Kato didn't want to rush things. Instead, he kicked back for a couple of years after his band split, neither writing nor recording out of necessity or mere inertia, and vowing not to do so until he felt — ahem — the urge coming on.
"I took a break from music altogether," Kato says. "I really needed it, just to clear my head. I did some traveling, spent a lot of time in Costa Rica. I told myself that when I started hearing the music in my head again, that would mark the beginning of something new. When that happened, I came back and started committing it to tape."

Eventually, Kato's muse began speaking to him, and he recorded a series of demos on his own, with no set plans or record deal in place.

"It was a nice project to do, because it was so open-ended," he says. "There were no deadlines to speak of, it was just something I was working on. I liken it to needlepoint or whittling, like something you just kind of pick up. A time-spender — I hazard to say a time-waster."

Kato sent his demos one at a time to Pearl Jam's Stone Gossard, who runs his own label, Loosegroove. The two had met on tour years back, and Gossard had told Kato to give him a call if he was ever interested in doing a solo project. "He pointed out to me, after we had seven or eight [songs], that we had the makings of a long-player here," Kato says.

The resulting album, titled Debutante, will sound somewhat familiar to Urge fans. Kato hasn't lost his ambition to pursue Rock with a capital R on songs like the first single, the eminently Urge-like "Zooey Suicide," but there are also some unexpected twists and turns on the album, such as the sardonic take on aging, "Cradle Robbers," and a faithful cover of Steely Dan's world-weary anthem "Dirty Work."

"It's one of those songs where the definitive version is already done," Kato admits. "When I cover songs, I tend to pick one where you can twist it three degrees to the left or step it up or do something with it. But that song is so definitive that you don't want to f--k with it."

Still, he says, a call came from the Farrelly brothers — the film-directing siblings who put together There's Something About Mary and with whom Kato had worked briefly on Kingpin. The duo asked him to submit a Steely Dan cover for their latest project, Me, Myself, and Irene, and Kato wound up doing two from the Dan's first album, "Midnight Cruiser" and "Dirty Work."

"Everyone who heard it thought it belonged on Debutante, so we put it on there," he says.

Kato remains grateful for Urge Overkill's relatively long run of more than a decade. "Your average marriage these days is, what, six, seven years?" he says with a laugh. "Urge is a great alma mater, a great school. Everything I loved about rock, about writing, about business, I learned through Urge. We made mistakes, like everyone does. But when I reflect on Urge, I remember the good over the bad, the gags, and the laughs. The world was our punch line, and we enjoyed every minute of it. But I also learned from it — what to do and what not to do — and that's how I can pull off a record like this."

St. Al, YGK, you da men.

No doubt, Lars, 'Reelin' off AIA and 'SIS' off the same album were my favorites because they used a different spoon to stir the soup. It's not as if I'm turning my noise at every faithful live version out there, but, if you're not at the actual concert, the excitement isn't running at fever pitch. No matter how high they keep the crowd noise levels at.

Good analogy, St. Al. On a completely different front, Phil Jackson is the only person involved in the NBA that I'd blindly support no matter what. In other words, he's the only guy that I'm a drooling fan over. He's meant _too_ much for me in my life to treat him as anything else.

Him and Luc Longley.

Who left "Sharon" off what album?? Are we hearing outtakes already?

Just got by 'Aja' special from down under yesterday. About six bored kids were in the room with me to watch it. They were, shockingly, fascinated. For me, anything about The Two is fascinating, but this tape really sent the college boys over the edge. These aren't really music guys, just friends (hip hop, DMB fans), but they thought it rocked, as I did. The 'Deja Vu' bit sent the room into uproarious laughter. Nice.

I have to agree with YGK - why going to a concert and hear what you already heard before? The only tunes on AIA that I cared for was the rearranged ones.

Clas - sure, but I have a strong feeling that the boys are planning for Scandinavia. Stockholm or Copenhagen are my guesses. Otherwise we take the germans.

Holty shiite, why did they leave "Sharon" off the new album?!?? What a greatt tune

wormfest will proceed here in Nawlins

when the tour promptly decides to do New Orleans

yes, I will buy you all rail passes and put you up in my garden compost pile

no Kerrie Okie, wu wu wu the hats and hooters
but plenty of sausage and beer
and crawfish and large vats of Red Beans and Rice and Jambalaya to roll around in

bring a little cash ola
God only knows what you can get these days for a jackson here
~ worm warning~ do check the genitalia first before in dull jing

anyway, when they "love to tour the southland"
the invites are all in the mail
Walt, Don wake up

You provide the music
I'll drag out the cheers
we'll chill and watch the fireworks from here

All kinds of fun things are being planned for the Boston DanFest. Some solid details coming soon on places and events. I'm jazzed to announce that audio legend Stuart "Dinky" Dawson has agreed to join us in the festivities and talk about his days with Steely Dan!!

Dinky worked for Donald and Walter for a good part of the 70's - on the road and in the studio. He's credited on Katy Lied, Royal Scam and Aja. Dinky was a road warrior with Steely Dan during the early 70's tours both in the States and England. In fact, the B-Side Santa Monica Civic Auditorium live Bodhisattva with the famous Jerome Aniton introduction was from Dinky's private collection of tapes.

In addition to Steely Dan, Dinky has worked with Fleetwood Mac,The Byrds, Lou Reed, Jeff Beck and Joni Mitchell to name a few! He's also agreed to sign his book "Life On The Road". There's some great stories in it if you have not read it. Including a chapter on Steely Dan.

Check out Dinky's web site: www.dinkysworld.com

If you have not registered yet, what are you waiting for?!?

http://www.dandom.com/danfests/mansfield/

Mark in Boston

worm man- according to interviews, that's the oft-argued about and much missed mistah' carlton employing the incomparable pedal on green earrings.

~the wonderfully soulful guitar work on haitian divorce was performed by dean parks with becker actually doing the talk-box thing afterword.

these prrrrls and a few others are talked about by carlton and becker in interviews located throughout the sd linx.

~tom, btw, i picked up the exact same feeling about the haitian divorce solo. check out my post on ole's 'fever dreams' page under royal scam/haitian divorce. it's almost eerie how close our interpretation is.

~nods to hoops on his vh1 15 secs of fame;
~chere for being our resident juju love priestess;
~aja for her uniquely socal comic relief.

steve

Hey The Truth, why do I get the feeling you're enjoying the inevitable chart drop-off a little too much? Don't you know that quality and popularity rarely go hand in hand? Need an analogy? Look no further than the #1 rated TV show in the land, the moronic "Who Wants to be an Idiot?"

anybody doing the San Diego trek that wants to cut expenses and maybe share a car, lodging, etc give me a wurl (bergeon@shellus.com)

so would somebody like to comment about Janie Runaway (I asked nicely the first time yes turd day)
or is this truly a bottom feeding no depositing type of environ here

you should know how all the pros play the game

anybody doing the San Diego trek that wants to cut expenses and maybe share a car, lodging, etc give me a wurl (bergeon@shellus.com)

so would somebody like to comment about Janie Runaway (I asked nicely the first time yes turd day)
or is this truly a bottom feeding no depositing type of environ here

you should know how all the pros play the game

Huge slide for 2vN this week, down to #56 on the Billboard chart. And they have canceled the first show of the tour, was that due to slow ticket sales?? Let's hope the rest of the shows hold up

but taking a break for posting! Hey tom, I scan for my name when I'm busy 'cause I don't want to be rude and ignore someone who's talking to me! Except for you-know-who, unless I happen to need a punching bag at that moment.

ruby baby-where are you? I think I've found some good hotels for you-I've still gotta check the prices. Tom and cara mia, if you're interested e-mail me and I'll send you a list, too.

Aja

aja - too busy so one only reads the posts with your name in them? ouch - some of us only get flack and jack here

I guess I am not blessed with a love letter from Claus every day, shucks

ballah - which SD shows are you going to so that I can ignore them?

~ ~ ~ ~ now to his worminess' fondest dandy fodder ~ ~ ~ ~

two steely moments of instrumental fondness to share

1) ever notice those neat guitar screeches in Green EarRings
Greek... wahhh Medallions... wahh Sparkle... wahh when they shine sorry... wahhh

I love that a real articulation of words with accompanying ex claw may shun or count urrr point

2) love that 'muted fuggle horn sounding' guitar with wah wah
in Haitian Divorce

it resembles the ska walking of the "too passionate to the point of tearing each others heads off" couple. and that word 'they "wrangle" through the night" the squawk box is a perfect instrumental accompaniment to verbalize the "wrangling" forces barely kept in check. The musical baking is sombre and clam but the squawk box 6 string is the couple blowing up at each other

send me mojo, who's this kinky so and so

Cara Mia: mWorld speaks the truth. I'm going to see shows at Jones Beach and Mansfield. I wish I was going to Universal - when I lived out West I had a connection for great seats there.
Bad timing on my part...

Cheers minorWorld

DMB's music ALL sounds the same!

They are not a "great" band by any stretch of the imagination.

They may be good as a live band in the Dead sense, but that's it.

And, they aren't even close to the Dead's league in that regard either.

..

But Peg...I like looking at the backing vocalists...please don't make me wear the blinders,muzzle and lobster bib again...Its all about music for me, I swear...

and in the "Speaking of Blinders Dept.": anybody catch Ann on the Today show this morning saying she was 'excited to see what Steely Dan looked like...'...Hmmmm... Peg?, women don't care?...(ricky martin, ricky martin)...

Cara mia: Check this link: www.hob.com/marquee if you're going to hit both LA shows, you can still get in on priority seating thru tomorrow...BTW, his Beast-lyness has relocated to the left pond so he's not going to hang with us westish folk. Hope to hang with all you Universal bound folks - Glad to host a tailgate with the 'unofficial danvan'...

Stal and Mr LaPage, that was a fine, sportsmanlike volley...hey MrLaPage, did I ever tell you Stal prints out the posts he doesn't like and relieves himself on them? That's why I don't post much any more (I was beginning take on a jaundiced tone). BTW, I don't think its any coincidence the 'post' page is yellow...nope...

ok, its all out of my system...
mW

Carolyn:

Forget the bozo who just wanted the sandwich cookies. I think you're beautiful!

cara mia-me too! You know you're addicted when you start the workday with a morning scan of the GB. You know it's been a lively night when you only have time to read posts with your name in them. Can't wait to meet you in June!

Hey there, Clas, and thank you! Your pier should be on its way sometime after June 9.

Hutch-I've been "cauldronized" so many times! Can't thank you enough. Hank Easton as sideman? Hmmm, maybe he can do a little audition June 9 and see how he fits in! He does a great Kid C solo a la Carlton- and I know he loves playing that song.

ole-you know I will, although my advisor doesn't think I made a good decision. Whatever! I think things will work out the for the best. I've got too much going here to leave now.

No attorneys here today. Maybe I have time to go back and find the funny posts.....

Aja

Beast:
Thank you for the LA venue news. I was wondering when to clamor for tix. Wanna meet up? What night(s) are you City of Angels going to attend? Is there a plan? I think we should hit the Bel Air Hotel bar one of those nights and close it down. If I win the lottery between now and then, I'll host a big ol' party in my suite at that fine establishment.

Got my SDiego (hi, Aja!) and Irvine (hi, Stranger!) admissions in the mail on Tues/Wed. The PBS tape came Monday.
It's a Steely Dan magic week for sure...

Oleander: It's WNCW. They give lots of time to Jonatha Brooke, Jennifer Kimball (they slay me) and a local NC favorite Beth Wood. Look for me in your mailbox the next day or so.

You all had me rolling on the unvacuumed floor yesterday with the
debates (love 'em) and inserts from anonymous asses. (I admit to making the gutterball Donald-likes-to-bowl post---couldn't help myself...)
This guestbook is a real piece of art. I'm starting to experience signs and symptoms of addiction. Good thing I don't have a boss peeking over my shoulder. Yikes!

And about the decorative embellishments known as back-up singers,
I think they are given the most minor roles of all the musicians in the DanBands, akin to certain attitudes expressed in Dan lyrics about women. (Yeah, I know they used McDonald, but then he had that nice almost-solo "Broadway Duchess/Darling if you only knew..." as a huge standout). I did like their itty bitty
solos in Pretzel Logic on PBS, and hope at some point in the "jams" almost everyone longs for on this tour, that the girls get some shining time. Ya' heah me, Don and Walt?

Cara Mia, Lovin' all the beautiful work we've done

saintAl: i'm with you 100% on dmb...i simply cannot understand why people disregard them, especially danfans- whom i constantly hear complaining about the dearth of viable new music (dmb is one of the few modern groups that i enjoy)...i've seen them live three times and all were incredible shows (they're playing in raleigh on september 1st and samantha and i are in there like swim wear.)

i got one word for you dmb dissers:

carter fucking beauford!!

Mr Lapage: Point taken. I agree my posts weren't necessarily well worded. Most of the time I wasn't really attacking your comments as much as I was making a general statement about the freakin whinners out there complaining "this" guitarist will NEVER be as good as Carlton, or "that" drummer will NEVER be as good as Gadd. Well, maybe so, but that was then and this is now. Some people like livin' in the past. I don't...

Clas -- Dave RULES! What I wouldn't give to see SD cook like DMB. Eh -- different styles, different band.

By the way. DMB is about to sell out a 3rd night at the Gorge this Summer. Another record. The word is out. Go see these guys live.

StAl

Hi Zeke! It's a year from the New Orleans Danfest! Time flies.

Joker - "I can tell you one thing, he's not building a playhouse for the children..."

Is that true? Did he comment that Waits-song "What is he building in there"? No kidding?

For those who haven't heard that one, please, buy Tom Waits latest "Mule Variations". It's a trip, I promise.

Peg - yeah, I was wondering when I read YGK's thoughts on that background singers looks, very strange. I guess she's there for one reason; she's a good background-singer.

Stranger - hi commie! And yes, I saw a French pornovideo once and that was... oh god, that was really something. So my answer is; to be on the safe side, buy new matresses. Burn the old ones.

And now I am thinking dirty thoughts - why this passion for French uh? Every summer you're going there. What are you BUILDING down there? I have the right to know you see...

Aja - you thought of me? Oh that's so sweet! Did I ever told you you're having a wonderful name? Your parents must have been very happy when they named you sweetheart!

StAl - he he, I have never ever heard Jerry Garcia except for that solo on "Cruise Control". I wouldn't lower myself to that level.

By the way pal, are you still listening to that Dave Matthews shit?

Schwinn - there you are, I was worried about you!

C

The viruses are coming, the viruses are coming...but I won't tell you when

THE CLINTON Virus....
(Gives you a 6 Inch Hard Drive with NO memory)

THE BOB DOLE virus...
(Makes a new hard drive out of an old floppy)

THE LEWINSKY virus...
(Sucks all the memory out of your computer, then Emails everyone
about what it did)

THE RONALD REAGAN virus....
(Saves your data, but forgets where it is stored)

THE MIKE TYSON virus....
(Quits after two bytes)

THE OPRAH WINFREY virus....
(Your 300mb hard drive shrinks to 100mb, then slowly expands to
stabilize around 200mb)

THE JACK KAVORKIAN virus....
(Deletes all old files)

THE ELLEN DEGENERES virus...
(Disks can no longer be inserted)

THE PROZAC virus....
(Totally screws up your RAM, but your processor doesn't care)

THE JOEY BUTTAFUOCO virus...
(Only attacks minor files)

THE ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER virus (Terminates some files, leaves,
but will be back)

THE LORENA BOBBITT virus...
(Reformats your hard drive into a 3.5 inch floppy then discards
it through Windows

Zeke
I was the one who likes the AIA peg
the stops and starts are slightly different and killer
can see peole trying to dance to the record and getting it halfway throughith the tuneith
fun fun fun in that topsoil

you live down here in Nawlins?

lets hook up sometime (bergeon@shellus.com)

the fest starts for me tonight - John Mooney and Tab Benoit at Tips uptown. I'll be that blonde idiot dancing and wearing an electric grey button down and grey dress pants ( no time to change after work, gotta hit the bulldog for beers early)

two weeks of solid music, oh la la la la lala la

yes I'd love to tour the southland

tom

Ole: I'll try to email you early next week. Your request has been sent. Wish us both luck.

Jazz Fess' starts tommorrow. The weather is killer.
Crawfish Monica, Cushon-d-lait poboy, shrimp Ida, man I can't wait. And then there's the muzic.

About the tour: Will Roger be on the US tour? About this note for note riff thing. I can appreciate Walsh and Felder nailing HC and Those Shoes. With Don and Walt, I say play on, dude. I'll take whatever you throw at me. I play and replay the Reelin' version on AIA. That is about as 180 a version of a tune as you can get. Good example of improv. What I dig about D&W is the attention to detail. As a fan at a live show that's a hard thing to concentrate on. (The excitement, booze, shrub...)

Don't know who made the comment but the AIA version of PEG is a good one.

The LA Times CalendarLive site lists Monday, May 1 as the onsale date for June 13 and 14 at Universal Ampitheater. If you get the chance, go to this gig. It's one of the smallest places they'll be playing on tour. It seats about 6 or 7,000.

Oh.. and go out to eat somewhere else first. Universal CityWalk sucks.

Beast

Wu WU WU

YGK - from one music snobe to another - Amen
I say let the new guys stretch out
and I actually don't want to here Kid Charlemagne on this tour
The new Crim is debuting in Nashville May 18-20
damn it is sold out, but a fall tour after euro
(but no Bruford or Levin ;-[ )

I say improv within a structured form (jazz or rock)
hell, blues is where it is. You know point a and point b
you work off a 12 bar progression and everyone can soar and singe and still fall right back together
and you can dance your ass to it cause you know where it's going
but not how it gets there
now that's real improv

isn't Pertz Logic done in a standard blues format?
repeat first line of stanza and go

Big Fan - so Katy (I'm an uppy puppy) Courage (or whatever her name is) has to introduce the Dandy ones on the back set lot. I expect to see our NYC contingent (isn't YGK from there?) holding signs none akin to what usually calls for fodder on that boring morning show

so are Don and Walt gonna kick their promoters posterior for booking that one on NBC (Neanderthal Bile Collective) or do they want to expand the fan base down to the next gen for more little tops and tight capri action?

back to reading the national probe
or was that stacking cutouts at the Strand?

(speaking of which,
another one word wonder - "probe", I like "deludan" too)

YGK rules !

my 2 cents.

Q

Mr. La Page: You ask, "Isn't there some common ground in between free improvisation (like The Dead and Crazy Horse) and remaining faithful to the recorded work?"
Yes, there is. Let the new MF play a new solo! He has tons of musical references and ideas to use to form a new one. This is a Herington solo, like it or not, but HE is the guitarist on the tour, not projected solo ghosts of Larry Carlton. Not to dis Larry in any way - his influence and work with the Dan is secure - but this is now.
Then you said "To me Herington's Kid Charlemagne was completely alien, (not a single note) like Carlton's."
He's Herington. By mentioning Carlton and his wonderful work, you give Herington no room to make his own statement(s) - because EVERY NOTE he plays won't be Carlton - because............HE'S NOT CARLTON!. He's doing a difficult gig BECAUSE of Carlton to begin with, because everyone is going to compare him to Carlton - a rather difficult place to be.
You said Herington's KC was "completely alien". Well, it's brand NEW! Remember, he's NOT Carlton. But his interpretation is new. He's a player, let him play! WOO HOOO! New Life, new solos - new guy, new way of listening to it. If you're THAT hung up on the Carlton thing, bring your walkman and sync up to the beginning of KC when they do it live - you're dreams may almost come true.

It would be great to hear someone, maybe a few years out on the next tour, saying, "Man, I wish the new guitarist played it like Herington". At the very least, it's possible. The solo I heard at the PBS tapings on Friday night was new, fresh and twisty and had me yelping at my seat like an audience member at a Mingus gig.
There.
I'm done.
Musical snob #21.

steviedan: There's a new Crimson on the way out - check out: www.thirstyear.com

ygk

SPOKANE CONCERT CANCELED!!!!!! Bummer dudes.
http://www.spokane.net/news-story-body.asp?Date=042600&ID=s795808&cat=

Both ABC and NBC are launching a series of summer concerts during the sweeps period. The "Today" Friday morning concerts in Rockefeller Plaza will kick off May 5 with Steely Dan, and the year's lineup includes `N Sync, Diana Ross and the Supremes, Don Henley and Britney (I'm telling you I just grew up) Spears.
http://news.excite.com/news/ap/000427/02/ent-tv-morning-travel

A nice little summary of the Storytellers show:
http://news.excite.com/news/pr/000420/ny-vh1-storytellers

IMHO, Two Against Nature suffers from riding Becker too hot in the mix. It would be different if Walter had the subtlety of Carlton but he doesn't. It's also wounded by the inextricable "looseness" of Walt's guitar in some otherwise "tight" arrangements--a fault that is unfortunately interpreted as a "feel" or "attitude" by some of the other musicians. It's like WB really, really wanted us to believe he was (is) the lead guitarist of (for) Steely Dan.

Don't get me wrong. This is Walter's year of "self-aggrandizement". He said it himself. It's laser burned and selling well. I just wish he would have called Larry for a second opinion. (Pete, are they on speaking terms?)

I've listened to this CD 100 times. The only thing it lacks is a producer.

Clas, hello my friend! When everyone is yelling at you I know it's best not to read your posts. Besides, I haven't been a fan of Jerry Garcia ever since I saw his tie collection.

And you are almost right! The Pretender is ONE of the saddest songs ever. The saddest song of all time is Mr. Lonely sung by Bobby Vinton. If Edd can think of a sadder song I'll bite the bullet and listen to Madonna's version of American Pie.

Cloaking,

SEMB

steviedan- I meant to mention to you, I noticed you live in Raleigh Nc. Is this true? If so, check out my uncle's great percussion and drumm playing sometime- he is great. His name is Jim Martin and he is a really talented brotha. he lives in Salisbury and tours alot. southeatern US and midwest. His work the past few years has been for one band project called Ceiling Zero, and older band called Museum, And most recently Mercury Dime. He plays all over in places like Charlotte Hotlanta, and Raleigh regularly. Ever heard of a venue called "Rocky's"? He has played there many times too. He is why I am the Dan Fan chick I am. Just food for thought. Check him out if you get an opp. My Uncle needs lot o love . Much love and peace to ya brotha! chere

Is it a full moon tonight? Whoa....

I was lucky enough to view the PBS special with the NYC Danvention folks. I don't think it was the final released version, and it was incredible. The place, the crowd, the sound, the music - all was just right. Anyway, one of the non musical moments that stood out was when the band had just finished a smoking version of a song - and the camera caught Walter grinning (though not looking at the camera). It was great to see, cause the rest of the time he was looking very serious, while I was thinking how awesome his and the band's playing was.

Whatever they play, however they want to play it, it'll be a pleasure. Not that I'm opposed to a little bit of jammin....

Those Hartford tickets - did you say 10:00 on 4/29? I was going to get lawn tickets but maybe I'll see if I can get up close (and personal?) why not?

suedave

Clas,
Was I just called a commie? Don't you know in America that's worse than calling someone a Swede?
By the way, you would do us all a favor if you would take Elian off our hands and show him Sweden so we could get on to the next 24-7 story about something.
Also, we will be in France again this summer. July 22 to August 15 on the French side of Lake Geneva. We are exchanging homes with a French family. They will probably be performing some kind of unspeakable French sex acts in our home. Should we change mattresses?

St Al: The predictability premise you talk about is a valid concern. However, since I do not have the chance to see SD at multiple stops on a tour, I find the music "fresh enough". Since they tour infrequently, anything not resembling a Las Vegas style review is a real event for me. I think some of the re-arrangements have been cool. For example, Reelin in the Years live is a vast inprovement over the original.
I would prefer more improvisation, but we can get that down at Jazz Alley can't we.
General Note: I think Harrington is an aquired taste. His parts make more sense on repeated listens. Unfortunately, on some songs, his lines just sound forced or contrived. On the other hand, I think he is very creative. (On the flip side, I am full of dichotomies aren't I?)
Mike

That was the best post ehva.

I'm gonna say you tella oleyella,
That's what I'm gonna do.

Wow! I just recieved my copy of the PBS show in the mail. I don't know if it's been mentioned or not, but I see a lot of extra footage that wasn't included on tv.Some funny stuff with Barney and Bumpus, plus Walter and Donald are asking Pete Fogel about the Steely Damned! Has anybody else seen this? Pete gives them a rave review! I also like the stuff with the horn section as well as the Ted Baker stuff. I'm sure I didn't see this on the tv version.

HF

cara--it's a date. Just lemme know. Which public radio station? There are 2. The eligible-guy problem here is well known.

Aja--work 'em. The admissions folks, I mean. Also, dickswingers were, are, and ever shall be. But you knew that.

St. Al--panting for the new UTBT! The two of you unleashed--whoa!

IO--Do me a favor? Please stop throwing around the term "Nazi" like that. If you want to know why I ask, e me: oleander1@earthlink.net

Hey Chere, here we are again keeping the late night watch like Lester the Nightfly. Peace to ya.

After reading the day's voluminous postings, territorial pissings, etc., I have come to the conclusion that the whole arguement vortex boils down to: ROCK Approach vs. JAZZ approach. Check it out:

First of all, Carlton has been, is, will be as long as he lives and can move his gnarly hands, an awesome guitarist. My previous commentary may be construed as opposed to that notion. I see absolutely no musical parallel between Pink Floyd and Steely Dan. Wanting melodic solos to define a tune is ROCK Approach. In jazz, that is the head. It's here, then it's out of the way like salad to make way for steak.

Miles Davis turned his back on the audience and Carolyn is certainly a long ways from that. I NEVER noticed that she was not smiling. She WAS singing, apparently quite well. Now I can appreciate hambone as well as the next guy. Louie Jordan, Satch. These guys created great music (obviously) and could crack some shit, but the important element was AND ALWAYS IS the music. Everything else is mints. If Carolyn gets beligerent and starts birding the camera or something we'll have a problem.

I was raised on rock and jazz and everything else I could get my ears around. I now FAVOR jazz over most forms. Rock is more nostalgia (with certain exceptions like SD or say, King Crimson yeah worm). That's why my comments always want to push the Dan more into the JAZZ APPROACH arena. Like St.Al sez, I'd like to hear a little more stretching out instrumentally, even an occasional improvized lyric would not upset my apple cart. Like inserting "Raleigh" for the better known city in the lyric...oh nooooo we're back to HAMBONE. Distinctly ROCK Approach.

Of course I would be the one at the gathering who would bring some really velvety smooth JUJU and partyfavors. "Mojo Bags for Everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" TRIPLE JOY!!!!!
"Ashe O" chere

Ps- in my AfroCuban religion Santeria/Candomble Ashe O has a dynamic, and is universal much like the word Aloha, only it means "May you have much blessings and personal power."

I saw Roy Buchanan on July 21, 1988. Ticket was 10.00 Venue? -this is the BEST part- was at Tobacco Road. It was brimming out the doors with people- standing for the entire show - All tables full,- people sitting on the floor. We scored this table in the front and got signatures on our ticket stubs. He died I heard, in a jail cell. Virginia I think two weeks later - a random bullshit type arrest thing and hung himself? Much JuJu that his soul was delivered in the "propa' fashion. Bad High man. I must say and it surprises me so much that more people do not know of him. The bassist was out of this world!!!!!!He was VERY VERY cool too, hung out later after the show and stuff. I had to be snuck in the place to, I was lemme see.... I was 19. GLAD ( A GREAT SONG BY TRAFFIC!!!!!) I got to catch that show and that it was at THAT venue. But then from my understanding Tobacco Road is an old club of Capone's. Lotsa Miami history. Anyway he ruled.....Hands Down folks!

Sooutrageous- I "RESPECT" the "El Supremo"
from the room at the top of the stairs...............
Honey Let me tell You...........!!!!
More "propa like" for you from me via e mail. "Magnifico Papi!"
really fucking Marvi!!!!!!

Razor Boy- I've been meaning to say I remember World Party and their Ship of Fools. I LOVED LOVED that song.

Storytellers was awesome, but I want to see the WHOLE caboodle! It was WAY too short for me. I want it RAW like oysters on the half shell. The Baroqueness. I wanna get my religion on! I wish the sistas had a more gospel sound honestly, though. The audience was kinda lame- WE ALL SHOULD have been there instead!!!!!! Were any of us there? If so, one of US was definantly the guy who was able to recite the previous lyric dead on Walter's request. I was lovin' him . And "Miss I was disturbed by the lyrics in Cousin Dupree." I almost went off. What a waste of time of precious questioning. A Cuban person would say that was total "despingado". For those of you who don't know Cuban Spanish- it is a really nasty word to use. Don't say it unless you mean it. No real way to translate it.

I cannot WAIT to see THE DAN LIVE. ONE OF MY DREAMS COME TRUE. I am preparing to smuggle in my "egg shakeers" some damn way to get my groove on. No to get my SWERVE on!!!!!!Shakin' them thangs!!!!!!!!shikka shikka shhhhhh shhhhhh.

steviedan- I will be attending the WPB show after all, I got some strong JUJU back from a kindred soul and have been blessed with the opportunity to see them there. Better for me anyway since my car is "despingado!" HE HE 'It sho don't mean that someday we can't all gather somewhere together someday- those of us that are tribal in nature and sit around, listen to the DAN, disect the songs, smoke a lil' puff, drink a lil' stuff, breathe a lil', tell a few truths and maybe a few lies to get it all just a spinnin'.
May sunshine come all your ways this the rest of the week now. that wer'e halfway through it. Peace and blessings, I am off to bed......
chere

No,I'm never gonna do it without the fez on!

St. Al- It's YOU who miss MY point! I'm not looking for perfection. I have nothing against Herington per se. I am not at odds with SD's current choice of guitarists. I'm not suggesting they stifle creative live improvisation.
Did you read my comment on recently atending The Eagles show at Mandalay Bay in Vegas. Are you going to try and convince me that because Walsh and Felder stayed true to the recorded solos when performing, that they suck; they're not with it. That does not ring true. Ditto for seeing the Allman Bros with Dickie Betts and Gary Rossington and the Skynard crew. I know what a great live performance is also.

I NEVER SAID NOTE FOR NOTE. Pat, that's called employing the 'exclusionary middle' argument. You take an extreme side to mine and try to point out the errors in my positioning by absurd verbal posturing. I never said an exact recreation of Carlton's stuff. I never said an exact replica. I never once said note for note. I never said Herington sucked. I never said I was looking for PERFECTION. I never said I wanted Carlton back.(though perhaps that isn't a bad fucking idea)

What I did say is that none of Herington's solos EVEN REMOTELY resembled the recorded stuff. They were so different it was fucking ridiculous.

Please don't pull that musical snobbery bullshit. I've attended as many concerts as anyone on this board. I've been a Steely Dan fan as long as anyone on this board. I love the art of guitar playing as much as anyone on this board. I cannot possibly be the only uninitiated Philistine on this Guest Book who feels this way.

To me Herington's Kid Charlemagne was completely alien, (not a single note) like Carlton's. There you have the exclusionary middle again. Isn't there some common ground in between free improvisation (like The Dead and Crazy Horse) and remaining faithful to the recorded work? Is it asking for too much? Come on Malibu, where are you when I need an amen? Come on Clas, Q!
I know I can't be all washed up on this.(even though I've beat the fucking thing into the ground)

Enough with all the peretensious verbal banter. Who among us wouldn't get chills seeing Larry Carlton or Tom Scott take the stage this summer. Who among us would leave disappointed because Tom's tenor solo sounded too much like the Black Cow riff we all love. Or could you imagine; "Fuckin' A man, Carlton fuckin' blew tonight , dude. They kicked into "Don't take me alive" and he nailed the fuckin' solo man. Too much like the album, man. What were Fagen and Becker thinking? Wasssup wit dem? Man, I've heard that fucking shit before. I'm soooo pissed. I was expecting more."

Sounds absurd, dosen't it? That's what's called the "exclusionary middle" argument at it's contrary finest. Too much of that bullshit is passed off here. I should know; I'm one of the culprits! So are alot of others when it comes to blazing someones opinions with ur nose-so-high musical arrogance.

Craig Page

Looeez - I agree with everything you said. I also thought the band (and Jon Herington in particular) sounded tighter and more confident on the VH-1 show. Herington plays some really inventive licks and I thought he was right on top of his game. Seemed like the song selection leaned way toward guitar solos. Would have been nice to hear those saxes cut loose a little. Chris Potter and Cornelious both played some absolutely smokin' solos on the PBS show. Potter is quite a technician and he can really swing!
I think Carolyn Leonhart was really just trying to do her job right. She was focusing on what she was doing. You forget to smile sometimes when you're in that zone. Of course (coarse) it can come across as anything one might imagine.
Man, this is one hot band they've pulled together. I can't wait till July to see 'em live!

Q - I had the good fortune to see Roy Buchannan in, I guess it was '70 or '71 at a place called The Crossroads up in Northern Virginia. He was the house band at the place and he was just beginning to become known. I think he was just releasing his first album. It was quite a show... a smoky little bar... Roy's drinking whiskey and ginger all night and the band just got better and better as the night wore on. He did a beautiful little Hendrix tribute toward the end of the last set.
That one's a really fond memory indeed!

Aja - How would Hank Easton do for a sideman on next year's tour?
I'm enjoying his cd. Thanks! Have you been "cauldronized"? I think Beasley's got two or three other cds out. You can probably only find them on line though.

Ballah - Go back to sleep, okay?

...right... like i said before, there are some weird things being said on the GB~ hehe! Steely Dan rules. i've have AJA stuck in my head all day, its quite sad. can you believe someone actually made fun of me today?? yeah i was listening to Home at last and someone was like what is this Jazz shit?! It was mean and i went off! no one talks about Steely!! haha! OH YEAH! Those girls were kinda like bored back there weren't they?? they weren't that great but they like drained D out sometimes and i was like HEY he's more important~!~ OK then i;ll talk to ya'll later
IO

Little beaver meets the Bleeker Street brat.

life is g4rand and I am so sophistocated that you can't stand it

oh yeah, steely dan is cool even if my girlfriend
a french model named Chartuese
doesn't think so

chill

I've met YGK, he is very cool and very smart - fuck you

YGK is what we call a solid citizen and even an insider, a made man, we don't know who you are.

SS

Silly girl, it doesn't matter which I meant, and OF COURSE I KNOW you're not "going for PA"... The more you say, the more you make the point.

Take comfort, your gullibility is only partially attributable to your youth. Unfortunately though, when the latter goes, the former's charm goes with it.

Point stands: Pudendum 1, Pedantry 0

Hello everyone! hey i love to sing! One day I WILL sing back up for steely dan. Intersting covos on the GB today! How is everyone?? What's going on? More Nazi testing today so that sucked! um, need a topic! hehe! i can never think of anything to write. partly cause i'm so damn tired! but anyways, SOMEONE TALK TO ME! hehe, well i'm bored! haha ok then well i'm about to pass out. i'll talk to you all later
IO

segue.......

Roy Buchannan rules(ed)!!!!!

could put Clapton and Stevie Ray to shame.........

Q

Few people have total command of a guitar like Larry Carlton - in his prime or now even - I just saw him a year ago and he was virtuoso.

As much as I think of Jon , I think there are VERY few guitarists who would dare place themselves in Carlton's league when it come to control and versatility AND do it just about any time, anywhere and virtually on command.

IMHO...........

Q

hee hee....

God I love doing that!

Mr Lapage: My reference to combining solos was, I believe, a drum solo (at least that's what I was thinking). Once again I think you've missed the point... The point is this band has been known to take extreme measures to achieve a particular sound, sometimes going so far as combining solos. Not well worded I know...

But GOOD GOD MAN! How can anyone live up to your standard? Sure, Gadd may have hit that Aja solo in the 1st or second try. Carlton may have hit some of his highlights in the first or second try, but go ask Mark Knopfler what he thinks...

Don't get me wrong, I can dig where you're coming from. I finally watched the VH-1 special and looking back in hindsight, I thought Herington did a better job on the PBS specials. Sitting in the audience was strange for the VH1 taping. Where the PBS special felt more like a concert, the VH1 taping had a more forced feel to it. I suppose most musicians have good and bad nights... However, second guessing Walter and Donald's choice of lead guitarist is sorta like me questioning whether it was a smart choice for Phil Jackson to bench Michael Jordan. On the surface it might not look like a sound decision -- BUT I AIN'T PHIL JACKSON -- neither are any of you. 'cept, maybe KD...

However, your opinion is important and, though I don't agree, I can see your point.

CLAS: That was the most moronic post I've seen from you in a long time. You have no idea of what YOU'RE talking about when it comes to Garcia's ability. Pick up "So What" by Jerry Garcia and David Grisman -- then tell me Jerry can't play guitar ya freakin swedish meatball, you! I'll even send you a copy, cuz you know how much I love you...

Next I'm waiting for a rebuttal stating that Jerry could play great in the studio, but put him onstage and he sucked. Wouldn't that be an ironic twist to this whole debate?

StAl

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Yes, Yes, Yes!!!

And if it weren't so cliche, I'd kiss the postman, poor guy!

Lucky youse! Haven't posted in a while so you haven't been victims of my manefestos' as of late. I'll spare you somewhat on this glorious day.

Chere, happy holiday!! Thanks so much for sharing...was one of the great stories of the weekend.

Miz, how is new gig going or has it begun yet? Wish you well in new venture(s). Your bus sounds like a blast - can't wait to hear how it goes.

GE - thanks for reminding all to mind our manners as much as possible while guests. Hope "Lost Wages" is terrific - I'm envious - sounds like a great venue.

COMMENTS: What I heard on Storytellers was far tighter than PBS. I suppose there are many, many factors which affect the end result of such a production. I'm standing firm on my initial impression (sorry folks) that backup vocals could be MUCH fuller. Gals of '93 & '96 tour were closer to what I would like to hear. Would like to hear the gospel/soul/jazz vocal stylings intermeshed more. I felt like this group was either holding back or was scared to death to be heard. With such wonderful songs to utilize, it's seems like a waste. Donald certainly does not come off as DOMINATING the stage whereas there certainly is plenty of room for the others.

Agree with St. Al regarding improv...goes for backup vocals as well, just a tad! Don't feel like the gals are working together and are confident with each other while performing. Don't have a problem with the lack of smiling but, when it isn't there I don't see the smiling, I'm not always sure the artist is comfortable and confident unless, of course, it is evident from the sound. I know Ms. Cyn has performed with one of the best (Al J.) so they must have the gift!! Hmmmmm. Maybe concert will be different.

The boys have still got it as always!

Gotta get outside while the sun shines...welcome new folks...I love it, you make me feel a tiny bit less novice.

Hey Razor - having a heckofa time with your listbot - was' up? Take care of yourself, the cold or whatever, (some chicken soup kiddo?).

We need ya MAN!

Peace

Hi Ruthie (or ballah, or whatever you're calling yourself now)-I'll assume you meant to say "coarse" and not "course". And I'm not going for PA, I'm going for the full monty: M.D. Forensic medicine and gynecology? You've combined the study of unexplained injury and death and the female reproductive system. Sweetie, I think it's a psychiatrist you're looking for. Not my specialty, sorry.

(that was too much fun)

Aja

Dr WuWu: In answer to your question about Larry Carlton. He was the victim of a gunshot wound to the neck which nearly took away his ability to sing and speak. After rehabilitation, he's mostly recovered. And I believe he was shot at his home studio by a thief. This happened about 10 years ago.

TaN has been on heavy rotation in my car and walkman (nice bit to blade to)and thanks to an overrun I am really getting into 4 tracks from Kama as well (Snowbound, On The Dunes, Tea of the Tracks and Trans)

Some of my original reservations have been totally wisked away

I love this album

quest of a question

Janie Runaway -

is it

a) Janie is the Runaway type (desperate and down on her luck)
b) Janie is the sweet release (and you'd love to escape with her)
c) Janie is fleeting (she runs away from any difficult situation)

get out those number 2 pencils boys and girls and lets not just do multiple choice but defend our answers in essay form

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Your selectivity regarding "jerks like me" precisely proves my point. Thank you. In any case, you'll never know a jerk like me... Course feet may never step on these carpets, but course tongues may step on smooth ones.

Oh, and when you become a physician's assistant please do us a favor and stay away from forensic medicine and gynecology.

Dr WuWu--I read Larry Carlton answered his front door and was shot by an intruder psycho in the chest/arm/neck, affecting major nerves, not to mention almost bleeding to death. His recovery was slow and questionable whether he could play professionally. He did work hard and came back.

Regarding Larry Carlton....I saw him 2 summers ago in a small club out in the Hamptons. He is a great guitarist, one of the best I've seen.

Something bad happened to him and he wasn't playing for a while....I can't remember what. Was he in an accident? Does anyone remember?

Anyway, the $75 a ticket show was sold out and the place was packed. I was impressed. I will have to compare him to Jon this summer.

Hey SUA-we women desire sex as much as any man, we just don't want it with jerks like YOU. If it soothes your weak little ego to rationalize that women are conflicted, cockteases, prefer food over sex (is this how your dates usually end up?) whatever, go ahead, but it's the man in the mirror that's the real problem.

Peg-sounds good. We'll analyze the sound quality, what should be amplified, etc., then we'll compare notes on whose butt looks cutest that night.

Aja

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And so shall you stay, forever doomed to comparing notes and saying hi... So shall it be written, so shall it be done.

I love Carlton as much as the next guy - but because of circumstances he's just not there. We are blessed with his sound and licks for eternity on the CDs - so that's where to find him and those classic solos. I'm all for some different arrangements and interpretations on the raod. I bet Miles' quintet never playd any song the same exact way twice. The way they've reworked Sign in Stranger, Do It Again, Green Earrings, and Reelin' in the Years, and espeically Book of Liars is very impressive. Even the more subtle shifts as in slowing the pace of Third World Man or an even smoother Aja were successes.

Certainly, I'd like to hear Walter cut loose on Bad Sneakers or Jon Herington of Kid C, but as long as the notes are based on structure and not noodling a la the Dead I'm happy to hear the different perspectives and that allows interaction between the musicians that ya just can't get in the studio. Structure as Clas alludes is the key.

I did notice that Carolyn seemed to look a bit more sullen than Donald, Walter, Barney, and Rickey Lawson (I love watching his bobbing and weaving and smiiling as he nails the goove). Tom Barney indeed has a smile that can't be wiped off. Donald seems to really enjoy being out there and performing - it's more of an emotional thing than might be predicted. This is just and observation, and cleaqrly I'm no mindreader. It seems that Walter just takes it all in and when he hears something he likes a smile of staisfation comes over him - maybe a bit more cerebral than the Donald - who knows? I've been able to distinguish Cynthia Calhoun's voice in the VH1 and expecially PBS concerts - really a very fine voice with really nice 'ring" - and she's smiling and swing and beckoning. Carolyn had a few smiles capture at the PBS show - maybe a matter of snapshotting randomly at different times.

Perspectives are funny though and inherently flawaed from the snapshot views we get from the media. For example, because of John's ability for a quick quip in public, his outstanding songwriting pre-Yoko, and especially his ability to act naturally in the Richard Lester films, it was assumed that he was the predominant muscial and private leader of the group, not just the public leader. John was a certainly a VITAL foce in driving, shaping the music, and pushing Paul - when it comes down to brass tacks Paul and George Martin were more responsible for their SOUND - sorry John was a good musician, but listen to the production (not the songs) of his solo work vs. Paul's. In interviews, the other guys often metnioned they had to pull the reins in on John especially in concert. So there ya go...

aja -- come and say "hi" on the 5th during a break. We'll compare notes, *after* talking about how it sounds.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: "Sex THEN dance, NOT dance THEN sex." Same applies to music. The highest creativity flows from a GIANT sex drive controlled.

I focus on guys' sound cuz I DON'T WANNA fuck 'em -- just wanna either defeat 'em or be inspired by 'em. Even if a woman were Einstein, I'd still defer discussions of theoretical physics to post-coitus. When women can enjoy/desire sex as much as they enjoy/desire food, AND when they can then CONTROL that desire, then the field will level.

REMEMBER: THEY NAMED THE BAND AFTER A DILDO, NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND.

Barker: to quote you, "If Fagen and Becker are as smart as you give them credit for, then there must have been some deliberation in their choice of guitarists."

Then AND Now

Perhaps Herington will never cut it for you, and that's cool - I mean, perfection is perfection, right? But I don't think Herington would be there if he showed up and said "Gee, guys, I can play an Abmaj7-13th chord and I've got great chops. Some of the moments I had watching him play for the PBS taping were memorable.

The point I was trying to make, perhaps in too many words, is that the songs we know and love are essentially jazz/rock standards. And I think the solo players should be allowed relative interpretative freedom, since the music/solos will be played by soloists chosen by a couple of guys who know a thing or two (D&W).

There's a reason Larry isn't on this tour - I don't know what it is. But his absence isn't an indication that D&W think - as Pete Fogel mentioned in his all too funny interview for the PBS tape - that he can't cut it.

ygk

I really hope they change-up the setlists and let those great musicians fly this summer. The tunes on 2vN, especially the title track, lend themselves to extended jams. I wanna see them go around the room and, at least by the end of the night, give everyone a chance to show off on one or more songs. Any cover band can do a decent straight-ahead copy and try to get the solos close. Karioke and air guitar would get you even closer.

YGK is right. D&W probably feel they have to walk the line between indulging themselves and the other musicians and pleasing the masses. Too bad the audience, especially the ones on a board like this, won't let them free. Could be the cool part of the tour.

Clas - Jackson Browne couldn't carry Garcia's guitar strap.

...and I thank you.

You are a gentleman and a scholar.

my,my, intersting happenings on the gb front today! ok kiddies let's fight like nice boys & girls.

mr. la page & lido, wooooooh! I think it was black oak arkansas who said: hot & nasty! however,some of your points are well taken if accompanied with a few grains of salt. i'm down by law as the culprit who started the last row about the new session guys. (much to my chagrin!)'i think i'll sit this one out. i'm too rollin' stoned.'

edd-you're vh1 'storytellers is on its way. can't vouch for quality. i'm a broker nerd not an audio/visual nerd.

steven

re: Not My Nancy

Yeah, I thought maybe you were one of the 100s of people here that I don't know. I would have dropped in to say hello...

The deconstructions were mine. Haven't done one in a while. Glad you enjoyed them...

re: Not My Nancy

hey Peg

I can understand the double standard of men and integrity and women and looks, but not where I play house

I have always admired a women singers chops first. And also a women who refuses to dress down to play the part.

granted most of the women that I like musically are drop dead gorgeous but maybe it's a factor of the music industry pushing looks

I absolutely hate Candy Duffler - who couldn't even hold Pharaoh Sanders sax let alone play it (but is marketed soley on her (this is what every man wants) looks)

and the women I like are generally very much at one with their sexuality - Liz Phair, Suzanne Vega, Joni, Sara McL, Christine McVie, Michelle Shocked, Sheryl Crowe.

Hey I fell in love with Suzanne Vega's sultry siren voice before I ever laid eyes on her. I did enjoy the eye icing as well.

TV same thing only worse. The women I find most alluring isn't the beauty queen with the "here it all is" clevage, but rather the modest intelligent women who doesn't play the sex card and leaves plenty for the imagination. And that could only be Skully (Gillian Anderson) of X-files.

sweet things from boston so young and willing

Edd--are you thinking this is like that Southwest Airlines ad? Where the ladies respond to the personal ad and it's the guy in the adjacent cubicle? That would be funny...but I work in downtown Boston & live in Concord.

Are you the guy that did the deconstructions of the Dan tunes a few years ago? Bodhissatva, Time Out of Mind, etc.? Always liked those...

worm--I was not agreeing with the exact angle of your AIA Peg kudos (though I guess I do)...merely rejoicing that someone else sees some merit in the track. Much overlooked, IMHO, in part due to Wadenio-phobia.

Yo YGK, You're right about 1 thing; Jon Herington is certainly not Larrry Carlton. He couldn't lick Carlton's boots when he was in his prime. Fuck you and your musician's babble. I know what I hear.
I'm in league with Mr. LaPage. What's up here? There was a reason they chose Carlton way back in the 70's. There was a reason he stayed with Fagen through Nightfly, where he was almost exclusively THE STEELY DAN AXE MAN. There was a design. If Fagen and Becker are as smart as you give them credit for, then there must have been some deliberation in their choice of guitarists.
As for this 'Carlton's too old and his new music sucks bullshit'; Are you going to have me believe that Becker honed his chops with age, like fine wine, but that now Carlton blows?! His solo releases were never his forte'. He was a sideman. Did his best work when sitting in with composers and other studio guys. He almost died from a gunshot to the throat. It slowed him down. He'd probably still be kicking it with the Dan if not for that horrific incident. You guys are fucking bunch of heartless, musical snobs.
Fuck all of you. I'll defend Carlton to the end. He's as much a part of the Steely Dan sound that I love as Becker and Fagen.
No need to reproduce his stuff note for note. No one can! Your bullshit to me amounts to musical heresy.

I hear ya, Peg. But take heart-my girlfriends have discussed the attractiveness of each of the GUYS in the band, too, and we each have our favorites.

I always thought you and Ruby sounded great!

Aja

Peg: You sounded great! (I thought that was assumed) But you have a beautiful, round, full voice which compliments the tunes thorougly. This is notable IMHO because there was 2 (not 3) of you to support that band and the arrangements - your Bab Sis was right on the money and your signature song shined as I recall!
I'm supposed to be in So Cal mid/late July for a reunion outside of San Diego, so hopefully I could catch another Damned Gig.

peace

ygk

Does anyone know much about the cover of "Aja?" Specifically, is it titled? Was it shot for the album? What do it mean?! And finally, anyone have a poster of it to sell? Thanks for any info.

YGK: You noticed how I looked and behaved, both on and off stage (thanks for that Jaeger, BTW), but how did I *sound*? Did you notice that?

The point I'm trying to make isn't about smiling or being snotty. It's about the fact that the guys are discussed in terms of how they sound, while (nearly always) the girls are discussed in terms of how they look.

That's the part that bugs me. It bugs many of my female musician friends, as well.

Yet I choose to keep playing, right? Thanks for listening. I'm done complaining. Now get back to work, Peg.

I thoroughly agree with Mr. LaPage... Come on...

I had to laugh out loud when Herington played a descending line in the Kid C solo right at the spot where Carleton played an ascending line. I kind of figured it was Jon's little tribute to Larry's solo.

Have to agree with St. Al on the tours and the predictability. Unfortunately, i think it's in WB & DF's nature to demand structure - I'm just not sure they are "capable" of just cruisin anywhere in the backcatalog at any point during a show.

Also it took the Dead a long time to perfect(if that's the word!) the ability to spontaneously move in any direction at any moment (and they were working with a consistent bandmember lineup).

It would be nice if they could switch up the order at least!

But, why mess with perfection.......

Q

Dissed? Don't think so, pal....and you're right, she's out of my league....but I don't think she's all that, either.....and you don't know my league.

ygk

hmmmm
I hear you...

you may not have been smiling, per se, on stage, but you weren't a prima donna off stage (or ON, for that matter) with your nose above the crowd, expecting to be treated like some queen.

When Cornelius smiles, you wonder what kinda shit he has on you...or if he's being facetious....

and Tom Barney looks like the happiest bass player alive....

sorry to brush a bad topic

Maybe it's the skeevy look in your eyes,
Or that your mind has turned to applesauce,
The dreary architecture of your soul, etc. etc.

She's out of your league buddy. Don't hate her for it.

ed beatty has pointed out to me that the Doobie Bros. are playing Humphrey's on June 8 with special guests TBA. Draw your own conclusions-however, there will be a special happy hour pre-pre-party on the Humphrey's outside deck (free admission) on June 8, just in case.....

Woohoo! Steely Damned next Friday. I'm clearing the calendar and polishing my dancing shoes.

I was just thinking of you last night Clas! Actually, it was when I was running by Crystal Pier-I think I'm going to send it to you (anyway) when everyone comes down for the hooterie.

Aja

YGK -- I didn't notice the guys smiling much, either -- any comments on that???

I suppose I'm a bit sensitive to this subject, having received more feedback over the years about how I look on stage (I don't smile enough) -- instead of how I sound. The guys, though, get feedback about how they sound, even when they wear a dirty t-shirt, don't loosen up the hips enough to even sway back and forth slightly, and look down or at a chart the whole time.

A guy doesn't smile = cool attitude.
A girl who doesn't smile = prima donna.

It just bugs me.

From a musicians standpoint, 'twould be a truly boring tour/gig if you had to reproduce studio/recorded trax live on the road. Herington isn't Carlton, doesn't have his personal history, which contributes to a musicians playing, doesn't have his particular axe, doesn't necessarily have the same foot pedal/mix/frets/tweaks....fuhgetabout it....you're not going to reproduce the solo note for note and really get it 'right', as if that's the goal.
What the recordings did was give us an awesome performance and sound, which many listeners have gotten used to and love.

But the point of playing live, in my opinion, is to bring something else to the form of the song. OK, we all know the songs, and how they sounded on record. We've listened to them hundreds of times. So why would you go an pay money to hear a LIVE BAND play note for note like the recording? Why do musicians play out to begin with? Experiencing something magical is a unique experience, and, once heard, can only be retained by the listener and within THEIR EARS/heart/emotional response. "Yo, remember THAT gig? Never heard it like THAT!"

I know that in many ROCK bands, you learn the songs, give some room for an obligatory solo - the only mildly improvised portion of the song - and go home. Next song, same thing. That way you get to calculate your set time and, perhaps, plan for some improv room. It can become quite rote.
What is so appealing to the jam bands is that they introduce the potential for chaos theory to be evident. The jam bands are, in many ways, more akin to jazz players, whose majority of their performance is improvised. You have the head (melody) and the form (body of the song) and you trade solos. If your guys aren't finding anything brilliant or particularly interesting, then you just play out the head and go home. Next tune.

What I find so interesting about the Dan and their live show potential is that they have assembled all of these amazing soloists.....view them as jazz cats (many of them are) - you have Ted Baker, who sounds like he's itchin to take some exteneded solo, Cornelius, Chris Potter - who emerged from gigging regularly with the Mingus Big Band (one of the originators of Free Jazz), and I think we heard a bit of noise from Jim Pugh at the PBS tapings - how 'bout that BONE solo? What if D&W gave Michael Leonart a latin trumpet solo on KC? That could be awesome!
The girls know their parts - I don't ever think we'd hear them do any scatting that's not written out, and that's not what they are there for IMHO, but the soloists are the soloists, and they know who they are.

Personally, I don't want to hear Herington play KC like Carlton - I've heard it already. But, based on what I heard from the PBS shows, he has the tools to create some magic - as do all of the players - magic that you MIGHT hear in a live show.
I think D&W have to juggle the tendency to let their players play verses giving the fans something relatively familiar to deal with.
It's a tough call.

I wasn't blown away by Herington's work on VH-1, but I do have some fond memories of the PBS taping, not all of which transferred to the edited version.

It's up to the boys to assemble a cast that can create magic when they allow it within the context of the songs.....it must be tempting to let them loose a bit, but also a great responsibility to have to pull in the reins for the purpose of the audience and fans.

I don't think we'll ever hear a "Free Jazz" Dan, but assuming the cast could get to know each other musically for a while - like the great jazz players did - there's an incredible potential for improvised magic.

My vote: we know the songs - let 'em PLAY!

and Clas: wrong again - St. Al DOES know what he's talking about!

ygk

re: not my Nancy

I'd never heard the term "binned" until a couple years ago when I started working for a new company. Now I hear it constantly.

Since you'll be traveling west on the pike, I'm wondering if maybe we work for the same place near 495...

not my nance -
did thou take too quick a glance?

I was raving about why I liked the AIA Peg version
because it tows the line of improv without cheez whiz rendition

Last night after paying homage to The Modern Lovers garage band greatness
I listen to the first 6 tracks of whack
or was that tunes of whunes or titles of whiteles
I like Walt's voice and delivery (no hangups here), the guitar is choice and restrained. but why would he take a demo backing track and release it on an album, get a real drummer dude

like a sundy in tj, well it's cheap but it's not free

Phil Collins must die!

Everyone, I'm not asking for perfection. I'm not asking for impersonation or musical fraud. I'm not suggesting the live dynamic be dismissed. Even the jamming improvisation. If you read my piece, all I'm saying is I'd like SOME semblance to the recorded stuff. A variation on a theme. Herington's stuff on VH1 was not even remotely close.

Big Fan--thanks for the tip. I'll be in my Toyota Saturday morning with my son, headed west on the Mass Pike to Springfield.

wormtom--you are the only other person on the GB other than Not MySelf to flog the AIA Peg. I love that Wadenius solo, despite being a hardcore Zingg fan and being generally willing to dis the Swede's chops at the drop of a hat. I think it's the best thing since Graydon. (You gotta see the part of the Making of Aja video where they play the binned Peg solos--"What's that, some kind of envelope filter?")

Ever watch "Who's Line is it Anyway?" A lot of that stuff gets laughs just from the audience's surprise/amazement at the spontanaeity. If it was scripted, it would not be funny. When they ad lib something that's genuinely funny, it's a double whammy.

The Dan's always been great at creating a great structure, then showcasing an inspired flight away from it (though still in the spirit of it). Too much improv and you get glop. Too much structure and you fall asleep.

I love Clas' line about "coming back to play when you've found it." But I agree with St. Al--the Storytellers thing was too cookie cutter, and I blame the constraints of the broadcast. Yin and Yang, baby.

We don't need to worry. I think the boys are going to show us something special this summer.

TIMMY!!!!!!!!!!!

(in Marty Feldman Eye-gor vox:) "Saint Al, the Monster has been put into position, sir."

CLAS: now, don't forget Jerry's slide guitar solo on "Teach Your Children" by CSNY.......pure laid-back hippie genius.

and Tom Waits is the MAN, not to mention being mentioned by Don himself.

{"I can tell you one thing, he's not building a playhouse for the children....."]grIn

Clas, Thank You. At least someone had the nerve to speak their mind and not be worried about cowtowing to the great DAN MYSTIQUE.

St. Al. Carlton did the "KID C" solo in 2 takes. He did the end-fade solo in one fucking take. Check the interviews!

StAl - "I venture to say some of these very solos are next to IMPOSSIBLE to reproduce considering the solo was nothing more than studio magic."

"...waste of talent it was to have Ricky Lawson holding the back beat..."

For gods sake Al, you don't know what you are talking about!

Can you give me one example of "solo - just - studiomagic"?

And Ricky Lawson is holding the GROOVE man. THAT is magic.

And for "jamsessions" and "improvisations" - musicians "searching for their inner depth", that's truly an overrated thing. It's okay if you are a searcher, but will you please come back and play when you have found what you are searching for?

So let me venture to say that Jerry Garcia (apropos Deadheads) did one good solo in his life, the solo on Bruce Hornsbys "Cruise Control".

nothing is more frustrating than a total note by note rendition
unless it is helplessly complex music like Lamb Lies Down or Yes material.

I am with St Al's camp

when I here someone improvise I love it
The recent Zooma tour John Paul Jones was improving a whole damn show and was a master of his instrument and clearly enjoying himself.

I can't wait to get home and see the new Silver and Gold Neil Young DVD of his new album, it's acoustic, but look at him with Crazy Horse and the improv that abounds. Just that grizzly distorted guitar on long jams like Like a Hurricane or Cortez the Killer, and I am totally lost in it all (the grunge and the gris gris)

the best improvers? the Dead or Phish? not a chance
they clearly can give it up
The Larks/Starless/Red era King Crimson 72-73

Bruford is incredible in the boiler room driving the beat with total abandoned syncopation, Wetton bass telepathic to Bill's changes and Cross on violin and Fripp on guitar stratospheric. They never played the same songs twice the same way except for the most basic of structure and the planned ventures into improvs were nothing short of spectacular and incredibly varied night by night. Didn't ever get to see this incarnation live but can only image after the studio albums and the Night Watch and Great Deceiver box set. Incredible

I agree on wide improv and varied setlist -
on the Dan don't mind the diversion live
no note for note, but don't cheez wiz it up either

a mighty fine line to walk, but great when it succeeds

that's what I like about Peg on the AIA album

The question asked Why aren`t the solos(guitar) somewhat close to the original is a valid one. The reputation of perfection in studio must not apply live, maybe they give the session players more flexibility live. I hope that is the case this summer as others here have mentioned the Live songs should not be as structured.....and have a Jam feel to them. Studio is Studio Live is Live............

KD, My lyric remark was completely facetious. It was rhetorical.
If the guitar players they have in the current line-up can't do a cohesive riff condusive to the recording, what good is the fact that they're "SD historians?" I don't want a recreation of a Carlton solo, I just want it to sound like the song I'm fucking used to!
Do I want Herington to do his best impersonation of Larry Carlton
on Kid Charlemagne? No. I want him to do Kid Charlemagne! What's the big fucking deal. Do I want Ari Ambrose and Chris Potter to be mini-Tom Scotts or little Pete Christliebs? No. But if they endeavor to play Black Cow or FM at least make it sound like Black Cow and FM solo-wise!
The point I'm trying to make is that the recorded solos on these songs are as much a part of THE SONG as the lyrics and the basic rhythm track. Why change one and not the other?
Check out early live Steely Dan. Baxter & Dias did a fine job of live guitar work and stayed true to the recorded piece. (Check "Bodhisattva, My Old School" they're not exact, certainly more vital and energetic, owing to the live adrenalinre-rush, but fucking close.)
Becker himself said that they stopped touring because a "recording" had staying power. It was the measure of what he and Donald were about: Making Music. The live performance was transitory, dynamic. So what happened? They go into a box and 20 years later reemerge on the touring circuit and their fidelity to the recorded piece has been subjugated to the whim of the touring soloist. I don't agree with this.
Becker also said that they had scaled back on session players because, and I quote, "no one could play the damn solos live."(Please check out the first few Two Agasinst Nature radio interviews for verification.)
Please give me an example of another group where this tenet is the order of the day pertaining to live performances. Listen to live Clapton, Trower, Benson, Van Halen, Floyd, Rush. They all have a dynamic that's conveyed live but the essense of the guitar solo remains, though extended and embellished.
Whether it's Carlton, Derringer, Woods or Dias on tour with the duo, it's immaterial. The soloist shoud stay true to the recorded piece or get his fucking ass back to the locker room!

Craig Page

can anyone help me obtain a copy of "The Making of "Aja"? Thanks.

can anyone help me obtain a copy of "The Making of "Aja"? Thanks.

okay

won word wonder #3
those spanish switch to juan we're juandez numero treo

Josie

the line "she's the best friend you never had"

"never" being a rather clever word in this context
many different spins on this meaning

and you expect to hear "ever" and "never" get's your goat
on entices you in it's dandy ironic implications
now doesn't it?

wormboytoy

she prays like a Roman with her eyes on fire

Archie - yeah, go ahead baby, I don't mind.

Mr. La Page -- You completely and entirely miss the point of LIVE music. If you want note for note, listen to the album. This band has been known to combine 2 or 3 different musician solos into one solo. I venture to say some of these very solos are next to IMPOSSIBLE to reproduce considering the solo was nothing more than studio magic.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say one of the things I DON'T like about Steely Dan in a live setting is their predictability. They have a world class band backing them, yet they sound the same almost every night with only slight variations. One of the things I noticed at the PBS tapings is what a waste of talent it was to have Ricky Lawson holding the back beat (one of 13 examples). Quite frankly these guys need to stretch out a bit. This means improvising, which I know they are more than capable of doing. What can I say, it's why I like jam bands so much...

Walter once said "welcome deadheads." Well, that ain't ever gonna happen unless the band stretches out more onstage. Maybe even change the setlist around a bit (GASP).

And before anyone latches on to my Deadhead example, don't waste our time. I'm not comparing the bands, just using an extreme example of what is right in the world of live music.

IMPORTANT: Over the next week or so you may notice some disruptions at this web site. Though I doubt the GB will be affected, thanks to the jOker we've got a whole new face to put on the Banyan Tree site. By far the most profound change this site has ever gone through. Stay tuned....

Clas- I think it's time for a drink.

"when ask if dog have budda-nature, master did not answer 'Wu'. That is big misunderstanding. When ask if dog have Buddha-nature, master answer 'wuf'"

That's more like it.

Pompe af Löwenadler, with hurting hips

All - Thank you to all those people who responded to my request for Shanghai Confidential. I am utterly overwhelmed. I love you guys...

FanofDan - I'm sure the programme will be brilliant anyway...

Peg- Great news about the Damned gig in May.I don't understand why no June date right before the Dan show at Coors. If you guys were ever going to do a gig, that's the time to do it!!

YGK,
I know what you are talking about and no exuses from me - but some food for thought: she is only 25 - the youngest member of the band - and now thrust in the spotlight - rather than a more minor role during the 96 tour.

BTW - a picture of her smiling - only 21 - I wish I were only 21 now -
http://www.steelydan.com/Images/tour96pics/7.5.gifs/7.5.04.jpeg

A picture not smiling (pensive is the word);
http://www.steelydan.com/Images/tour96pics/8.31.gifs/carolyn.pensive.jpeg

Picture with me in it - sorry, I haven't looked at this in a long time, but all of this talk of concerts has got me reminicsing:

http://www.steelydan.com/Images/tour96pics/8.31.gifs/woods.jpeg

WHCN in Hartford ran an add this morning for SD tickets going on sale this Saturday - three other concerts go sale for The Meadows at the same time - you just have to hope all of those other people in line in front of you want to see Dave Matthews.

Coincidences abound

over a week ago I pick up another novel for some light reading

Tom Robbins - Half Asleep in Frog Pajamas

now the story is about coincidences out of control in the life of one young femme fatale stockbroker when the market crashes right before Good Friday (I know it happened a week earlier but hey, run with me)

anyway on page 51 the illustrious writer of the Northwest dispells meaning or pulls one's chain on the meaning of the word Wu.

straight from the asian Dr Yamaguchi speak ing in his foriegn tongue
here goes ...

"does a dog have a Buddha-nature?" To that, Master Joshua was said to answer, "Wu".

"Now, please, wu is in Chinese language a negative response. Negative. "No," yes? But the word have many fine shades of meaning. Many nuance. So, depending upon inflection, subtle nuance in pronunciation, wu could mean 'absolutely not' or 'probably not' or 'possibly not' or 'usually not.' Could mean emphatic 'no' or could mean 'Am rather inclined to doubt it.'

"so, for 1200 years, scholars have argue. Exactly what did Master Joshua intend by wu? What inflection, what shade of meaning? Twelve hundred years, they argue and argue. But I am here to tell you." Lang Pause. No tap. Dr Yamaguchi is, in fact, gripping the Bic with both hands.

"when ask if dog have budda-nature, master did not answer 'Wu'. That is big misunderstanding. When ask if dog have Buddha-nature, master answer 'wuf.'

~ ~ ~

so "Are you with me Dr Wu"
your comments on the inflection and meaning and the play with words. Belly up to the bar on this one gang

wasn't Dr No a cult following SF tv program? or a bond villian?

you walked in and my life began again...

Right on, YGK!! I can only assume Carolyn Leonart was the pale, flimsy creature in the middle? Funny, but she seems to get the most attention, although IMHO she is the least attractive of the three.

I'd like to scrape out the center and just enjoy the sandwich cookies.

the chick can't win

she gives you fine vocals, a gyrating and jewel-clad torso with snakey appendages... but no, you want MORE

she has to give you her soul in a smile

Save your soul, Carolyn.
Save it for Barry Manilow

Schwinn?

"...got the butter but not the bread

got the clouds but not the sky

but hey

I'm big in Japan..."

GOD DAMN it! I bought Tom Waits "Mule Variations" to my One And Only One for birthday present...

...and what a trip it is listening to it! I love this man! I fell out of my chair, the song "What is he building in there" is so funny, "...we have the right to know... what is he BUILDING in there..."

Curios neighbor or what! Turn up the Eagles.

Louder.

AJA - "Clas-oxygen increase will not make you tired, but a decrease will-ask anyone who's ever had acute altitude sickness (I have-miserable!). Lots of people feel tired in the spring-I don't know why."

Good. It's a comfort to know you're not alone.

When you're sleeping in the springtime I mean. I've been down at the countryside a week and God! I've been sleeping. And I have been walking the dog too! And I have been listening to "Two Against Nature" and it's so GOOD!

RUBYBaby - I haven't heard from the company who's converting the videotape yet. They are taking their time. I wonder what they are converting him to. A muslim? A Commie Stranger? Gonne love him whatever, that's for sure.

Lars - Steely Dan is doing Europe this year it seems. Hamburg? Frankfurt? Let's go.

But forget about that new long bridge okay?

JW Malibu - hey there, yeah, I like that saxophone too, he's incredible, he was stubborn too, I had 18 tracks with sax-solos to choose from (thanks to ProTools)... I like listening to that song, and yes, the next GuestBook CD will be nice to hear I guess.

And where the hell have you been? White North? Be careful buddy.

Lisa - thanks for email, I am tired writing emails, I call you instead. Okay?

So long,

Clas, Big In Japan

PS The saddest song? Jackson Brownes "The Pretender".

Fletch: Yes, the new orchestral Case of You is a treat. I love the way they have added a little spice to the chords, while keeping the essence of the original. Not sure if a guitar version would be possible, but I'l keep it in mind.

Lou: It was tricky to know what to do with some of the Neg. Girl chords. I usually try and get a guitar-friendly chord that has all the essential notes, including the bass. In the intro though I like the way you can use open strings to get the harmonic "spice" - but this means dropping a bass note once in a while. Your alternative Fm11 is a good suggestion though.

Though your Dbm9 (9x985x) is the same as my x4x440 - but I find mine a lot easier to finger.

In the chorus, if you have alternatives for my G7 and C6b5 let me know - though I'm pretty confident with those two.

On the bridge of Almost Gothic, I started out with the same chords as you (i.e x0545x x5445x etc) then changed my mind and dropped the E at the top. Tricky one to decide!

Your D/Eb (x6777x) works quite well in place of my Ebdim (x6x575). You can think of my shape as D7/Eb. I hear the keyboard play a D7 arpeggio here, which is why I went for the shape I did.
I prefer my Dm11 voicing though - having the F and G next to each other at the top of the chord gives it a nice edge.

Your Bb6/9 shape is also a nice idea - better changes to previous and next chord as you say.

Howard

Purely Aesthetic Question:
Does Carolyn Leonart ever smile? or is it not in her contract? And what's with her supremo attitude? Victoria Cave does the job with grace and approachability....having met both at the tapings, I can't help but wonder where one gets the attitude, and the other is friendly and professional througout. My first impression of Victoria has remained, but so has my impression of Carolyn. And even not being at the VH-1 tapings, it's apparent from the look on her face she's not a happy midriff chick. Noting that Victoria was/is? part of Cabaret on Broadway, perhaps D&W could get a cool, fine looking friend of Victoria's.

Carolyn looked depressed and bitchy at the taping - like she was doing D&W a favor.
Victoria looked genuinely happy to be part of such a fine band, and was 'into' each of the tunes.
Cynthia Calhoun was fine, fine, fine, with no complaints from this fan....

- tired of prima donnas who think/act like they're divas -

ygk

Don't get lost or confused - Irvine Meadows is now Verizon Wireless Amphitheater - yuck what a name
http://news.excite.com/news/bw/000424/ca-verizon-wireless-sfx

Henley about Storytellers, a brief mention:
http://www.phillynews.com/daily_news/2000/Apr/25/features/ARTS25.htm

Huge: In the words of Bill Murrey in that terrible movie about army training - I want to party with you dude.

Ok Walt, so you HATE vinyl. After newsletter #10 is there any doubt?

Apparently there is. Something in the nostalgia of it all cuts through the limitations of the medium.

I mean, who is requesting vinyl? Not me and I have a turntable. A damn good one. But I don't want any NEW stuff for it. Gaucho was the last NEW record I bought. Everything since then has been poor audio at best.

One more thing. The Japanese will laugh at you if you stray past mini-disk. Keep it small and compressed. Not big and ungainly. And for God sakes, no needles!

Ex Disc Washer,

PVC

I think it was cute beyond belief that SD ended 'Do It Again' the same way they did 27 damn years ago. Fucking weird, as they say on the boot.

I wonder where Royce Jones is now...???....

feverish dreams alert...:

It hit me hard watching the VH1 version of 'Bad Sneakers.' I learned to take a step back and take the song for what it was really worth. Don't complicate things, man. It was really about The Two, or, at least, parts of them. No drug dealers left without a job after returning from 'Nam. No record company execs. It's not about David Geffen, it's not about Walt, it's not about me. The Men are just commenting on the fools (as Mike M) would say that seem to circle the whole of El Lay, and Don and Walt might be feeling a bit homesick. And, after that guitar solo, who couldn't?

When the roomie came in, mid song, I had to hide the tears.

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The highlight of the night, had to be, a few songs later, six or seven young men gawking at my TV. These men, including Da KD, can get their own and return home to talk about it, but we loved the Section. Bare mid-riff or not, those three were just about all you'd want (on the outside, at least), in any lifetime combo of women:

redhead, bohemian, voluptuous.

Bring it.

Still the youngest, still the best, Kelly Dwyer...find me in ten...years...

For those who have been asking and asking and asking... lovebob has booked The Steely Damned for Friday, May 5th. Go to www.steelydamned.com for details. I think it's going to be a lot of fun! Hope to see you there.

MrLaPage:

Don and Walt invited musicians into the studio to interpret their work and chords and add their own character into the music that The Two had created. They didn't ask for help on lyrics, but they did need some help as far as drums, tenor sax solos, and really fast guitar solos went. My explanation may not be the smoothest around, but it a bee da truth. They didn't want anyone to touch the words, or the chords for that matter, those were aiight.

You're right. The solos and musical performances on all Dan albums post-'Pretzel Logic' were all thought out and drawn over with a musical comb until the abrasions became too hard to ignore. It ain't the same way with the lyrics, they took care of those before the long-hairs became involved.

I kinda think it's an insult to Don and Walt's intelligence to assume that they'd pick instrumentalists that aren't SD history majors. If you want a live recording of the same solos, play your CDs on your front stoop and record a booleg.

Steely Dan & Don Henley/Storytellers ~ Two classic slices of television back to back ~ thank God for VCRs!

In the late 80's I saw Donald and Walter at Madison Square Garden watching a NY Knicks game. I ploped down on a empty seat next to them. As I was thinking of what to say, out on the blue over the PA comes the song Aja! No kidding. I turned to Donald at the end of the song and said "great police whistle", and walked away. I knew only a HUGE fan would have said that. It was very strange. This is no joke. Honest.

HF

Sorry but I won't be joining you folks in the amen corner for Herington. The guy's a great player, but there was no edge and no bite for my taste. Auxiliary action. You people wishing for Carlton-in-a-bottle should be careful what you wish for. Have you listened to any of his current work ? I don't want to hear recreations of his solos either. Walter sounded funky fine and was getting good skin for his solos. The crowd was with him. If we can't have a really interesting second soloist with a fresh approach...there are great rhythm parts for someone to play. Herington handled that masterfully.

For those of you wondering what sporting diversions Fagen's into...baseball, bowling, golf....I think we're looking at someone who only leaves the crib when he has to. That's just the feeling I have.

Raleigh Alltel tickets go onsale public Monday morning 10am.

In my conversant moments today with the "man on the skreet", the VH1 Storytellers went over big with fans and acquaintances alike. Again with a small sales spike. Evangelical.

Why do the soloists persist with guitar solos that are completely unlike the recorded stuff? This makes no sense to me. Why not change the lyrics? Why not change the horn arrangments? The solos are totally alien to the piece.
Watching the making of Aja, it is evident how Donald and Walter agonized over every note of every solo.(PEG!) The recorded solos are as much a part of these songs I've come to love as the basic rhythm chart.
I enjoy a live performance but I fell in love with the solos on the albums. Couldn't they attempt to make them at least uniform and recognizable to each particular song? The current line-up sounds capable.
Case-in-point; when I saw the Eagles in Las Vegas this New Year's, Joe Walsh and Don Felder were fantastic. The solos were not composites of the recorded riffs, but they were certainly right on the mark.This is the case with many of the guitar players I've seen live. If you've ever seen David Gilmore perform at a Floyd concert, the solo from Comfortably Numb, sounds like the solo from Comfortably Numb. Skynard's wild Freebird solo, closely resembles the album. Dickie Bett's Ramblin' Man solo is a recognizable revelation when performed live. I can go on all night like this.
I know Fagen & Becker want some instrumentral improvisation from their soloists,(they require it) but this is ridiculous! They're not even close on some of this stuff. Am I the only silly fucker hearing this or what? Does anyone want to hear something remotely similar to the old riff or am I alone on this one? Are we that avante gard?
Come on guys; get with it before you hit the road in May.

are those mini-humbucker's on Herrington's Gibson? I didn't notice those on the PBS special.

I see there is Suffering and Pain among the Faithful..
And it's time for some Righteous Healing..
So.. Take this tonight and sing Amen in the morning, good people..
(yeah, and you too..)
The Doctor has brewed up some of the finest Funk & Soul to cure your ills, and y'all get a Free Sample..
Over at www.strokeland.com
There's 2 and a half minutes of Tower Of Power, unreleased and just dripping with The Good Stuff.. Called "Far Out"..
So head on over (especially you purty l'il Innocent Ones..)
And taste the flavor of the Masters..
You'll be glad ya did!

Flipping for the VH-1 show last night and saw Bud Selig, Commissioner of ML Baseball and for a second I thought it was Donald Fagen.
Scared me in more ways than one! Anyone else notice the similarities?

Good picks Anne! Two of my favorites are "My Rival" and "Glamour Profession"

Hey, Zero. thats right, I was born in '80.I've turned my cousin on now, and he's a die-hard SD fan. I only wish that someday I could have them play my personal favorites. I'm thinking along the lines of "My Rival", "The Royal Scam", "Glamour Profession", "I Got The News"... Don't they seem like guys you'd probably like if you met 'em out and about? If I played music the way they do, I'd never stop playing...

just a note-

saw Palm Beach and VA Beach on the Ticketbastard site

that's it for today, getting sick. nap time.

peace love and DAN

Razor

hello everyone, Wow today has been a long day! I'm very tired! June 9th is going to RULE~ i'm so excited to go to the concert! blah blah....hmm, what to say what to say?? Oh i saw the storytellers last night on vh1 and it was awesome! I actually think that the "vampire" (donald fagen) looked very well! Sometimes he looks kinda sick or something but he looked very well last night. I didn't realize that they were such smart asses! wow! would everyone get along with them or what?? haha! J/k! i know that I am a big smart ass,.....right.... wow, i don't know what to say. i'm still waiting to hear from Chris because he seems to think that he is the youngest steely dan fan, NO everyone knows that I am! well i e-mailed AJA so i should be hearing from her soon! Meeting some of the people from this TB will be awesome!
**who is coming to the San Diego "tail Gate/hooterie" thingy anyway??***
um, ok then well i hope to get some people talking to cause i'm running out of things to say here...GIVE ME A TOPIC :)
Later everyone
<3 the Innocent one

Please substitute "last tour" for "last year".

The offer still stands though...

Open letter to Donald, Walter, and the rest of the band:

Folks,

Listen, I screwed up badly. You were good enough to give us an opportunity to get tickets (for which many of us thank you) and I messed up. No excuse. I simply made a mistake date wise and let it go right by. Result? I'm sitting here with no tix. Damn, I've seen you on every tour since you returned from that "lost weekend" (including the NYR&SR) and I'm sitting here outta luck.

Now, I'm sure there's some ticket broker out there who's willing to trade a couple seats for some green and, to be honest, if it comes down to that, well, it does. It just seems sort of clandestine and, you know, I'd rather see the money go to the band. Hell, you're the ones making the music.

So I'll get to the point. I need a couple tickets to the show in Mansfield, MA, and I'm willing to put CASH MONEY in someone's pocket if anyone in the band wants to part with a couple comps. How much, you ask? We'll talk. I'm a reasonable man. But the tickets must be primo. I was in the front row last year (you must have seen me), and I really need something along those lines.

As an added inducement, I'm willing to get up on stage and play electric piano with you if "Deacon Blues" is included in the set list. (In "C", if you please. I don't want to embarrass myself.) See? More money, AND a break from those tricky m7s.

So what say? You can easily find my e-mail on the newsletter distro-list, so get in touch. Any of you. Don, Walt, Victoria, Cornelius. Anyone???

Thanks!

Edd

Wednesday April 12, 7:59 am Eastern Time
Company Press Release
Time Warner Businesses Report Record First Quarter
NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 12, 2000--

Time Warner Inc. (Time Warner, NYSE: TWX) reported operating income before amortization of intangible assets (EBITA) of $1.171 billion on revenues of $6.549 billion for the first quarter of 2000. In the first quarter of 1999, EBITA was $1.241 billion on revenues of $6.091 billion. EBITA grew 13% for the first quarter when normalized for certain items described below affecting the comparability of operating results. Revenue grew 8% for the quarter on a normalized basis. Cable Networks, Publishing, Filmed Entertainment and Cable all posted record operating results for the quarter.

Warner Music Group posted first-quarter EBITA of $80 million, compared to $89 million in the first quarter of 1999. The results reflect a decline in domestic recorded music partially offset by DVD manufacturing profits. Top sellers for the quarter include Kid Rock, Red Hot Chili Peppers, AC/DC, The Corrs, Alanis Morissette, Cher, Faith Hill, Tracy Chapman, Steely Dan, The Next Best Thing soundtrack, Gerald Levert, Eric Clapton, Tim McGraw, Drama and Pantera. Warner Music Group labels and artists won 20 Grammy Awards in February.

Innocent One-I don't have your e-mail any more, but you'll be happy to know I'm moving the pre-party to a Mexican Restaurant for any underage (innocent or not) attendees. Hope you don't mind hanging out with a bunch of 30 and 40 year-olds. We're pretty cool in spite of that.

sooutrageous-we have a Steely Dan tribute band out here with a stunning guitarist who absolutely rips on Kid C and Don't Take Me Alive (am I right, Hutch?). Before you plan any jaunts out here, check www.steelydamned.com re: the band's schedule-you don't want to miss The Steely Damned if you can help it!

Going back to work now.

Aja

cruiser- you aren't suggesting that you'd like them to bring in someone like......say.....you know.........i think his name's larry carlton or something? are you? huh?

the last time i suggested that, i was run out of town on a rail. do the words tar-and-feather mean anything to you? do you fear for your safety?

i must admit i did like herington, his craft is solid. but as i've said before; how the fuck does one improve upon perfection? no one! absolutely no one, will touch carlton's recorded guitar work with steely dan. he was the messiah. kid c will never sound as good as when larry amazed us with that RIFF. to think he did the end-fade solo in one fucking take! the mind reels. i still turn my friends on to 'don't take me alive' the beginning riff just grabs you by the seat of your pants and proceed to kick your ass.
who among us would not have bigtime goosebumps if carlton took the stage at some of the shows this summer.as good as zingg, walter and herington are; there's only one larry carlton. (IMHO)

Supergroup?

The Dangling Dingleberries? Huh???

Aja- sorry, i thought that you were telling people personally! Oops! Um well i'm dumb! Um will you keep me posted?? Write me an e-mail anytime! I miss hearing from you!!!!
whos all gunna be there? Later!

hello everyone!! i missed you guys! School sucks! Well not really but we have stupid natin wide testing, our school always gets highly ranked and so they're all Nazis when it comes to testing....you MUST do well...! it's pretty scary! Um, my tickets arrived yesterday!!! The special ruled like everything steel does, except making us wait forever for that CD!

Chris-- there is NO way that you are the youngest SD fan! I am! i will bet you!!

Aja-- whats the deal with the party before the SD concert in San Diego, I'm guessing since you didn't tell me about it i'm not invited. Thats totally fine...well anyways, let me know
--Me--

looking today at the great collection of concert posters at Bill Graham`s Filmore West concert venue and did not see one Steely Dan Poster........some great Rock Art there and i can`t believe from 72 till 74 the boys never played there.....

VH-1 was ok, too many commercials though. I thought Jon Herrington was good, Walter spiced up Cousin D, its a better tune live....Bare Midriff girls add a nice touch, but no skin......The general public who isn`t into the Dan had to be impressed with the show, and considering whats out there in pop now, very impressed.....I think the boys were comfortable in the setting and are coming across that way,they will always we Wisenheimers, but seem more accessable. The session players are absolute pros..........There was one attractive woman the cameraman kept showing in the crowd, and no it wasn`t Libby Titus..... still waiting for the band to cut loose, or are the jamming days over ?

Steely Dan not touring for fear of being caught with drugs? Get real! What about the Grateful Dead? I always thought touring and drugs were synonymous, especially in the 70's.

gratefulpurple-I just bought a Trek Hilo 1000, in Minnesota Viking purple. Ya gotta love a loyal company.

To all interested in the San Diego hooterie, I'll be (attempting to) update the site with new info this evening. Can't recall the link, but you can get to it from the ODP and then to hoops mckay's site.

Aja

Anne, do your friends dig the Dan? I've turned some of mine on, through repeated exposure, because my house was kind of the party house of the high school, I was the dj and got to foist The Two on 'em. The disco-y stuff is best for broads, the guys dig 'Kid C', 'Old School,' 'Reelin,' and 'King of the World.'

Then I'd get drunker and try to foist 'Black Cow' on them...

anne bradley:

So let me get this straight ... you're 19, so that means you were born in 1980 or possibly '81. So when "Hey 19" came out, you were "Hey 0." Amazing.

As for what you heard about touring, according to Barney Hoskyns article in the Guardian/Observer (see http://www.steelydan.com/2vnacid.html, courtesy of the Official Dan Page), "It didn't work beyond a certain point with that particular band for a lot of reasons," says Becker. "We found ourselves in an uncomfortable position with some of our early bandmates of constantly not wanting to do things that they wanted to do. You end up being this sort of un-generous collaborator who's constantly pissing on somebody's parade and doesn't wanna do the beer commercial or whatever the hell it is. In a way, it was very liberating not to have to deal with that afterwards. To be able to say, Let's not work for a while, or Let's hire this guy to play the drums."

Also, and I can't remember where I read or heard this, but our heroes were also frustrated by the technical limitations they had to deal with on the road circa 1974. They couldn't get the sound they wanted, so they decided to bag it. I seriously doubt that fear of getting caught with drugs has anything to do with it.

For a comprehensive list of all their tours, both back in the day and latter day, check out http://www.broberg.pp.se/sd_concerts.htm

Your assignment for tomorrow is to research the band's history at www.steelydan.com and post a comprehensive dissertation, including footnotes, on the band's influences from 1959 to the present time. Ready? Begin.

W's Dylan reference last night was cool. Anyone so inclined should not miss Bob on tour this summer. Saw him twice in March and he's performing better ever before. Charlie Sexton, a wonderful guitar player, is in the band and worth the price of admission alone.

I say I am their youngest fan ... 19 and proud to have been listening for 3 years and running. Parents listened to Steely Dan constantly when I was in the womb. My favorite baby picture is me with the Royal Scam album in the background. I thought too the VH-1 special is way too short. My brother tells me they never toured back in the day because they were afraid of getting busted for drugs. Is there any truth to this? I wouldn't be surprised. If this is not accurate why, then? They are a great band and seem to like performing live. Maybe thats just an "occasionally" thing.

Hey Beast- Super group? Oh come on now. Ya wanna bet you'll see another Rock & Soul Revue tour before anything like that.

so VH-1 is reshowing tonight
anyone that already taped it want to make a fresh off the broadcast copy for a worm (high grade tape preferable)
(will make it worth your y l, with goodies)

latest Rolling Stone - read in the coffee shop minutes ago as I was playing afternoon hookie

pg 29 - on what geezers the boys are

one comment was(pair a phrased) that they would never have gotten the new album out if they hadn't already rented all the Alicia Silverstone movies already.

okay so the boys like to spin the sweet young thing mode a little far. Hey when it's the old man laying down Jackson's for a peek it's ignored, but when Hey 19 needs some Cuervo and Columbian to make the evening sway then the boys are schmucks. Like Cousin Dupree is really about them anyway. As men get older the younger women is a really hard thing to deal with (better to look away)

as an aging late 30's guy, I get hit on by women in their early 20's all the time, they think I am much younger. No fear, having a 12 year old daughter sets my mode right all the time, if I wouldn't want someone taking advantage of her then I don't go near the situation. Now a lady in her late 20's or early 30's, she can fend for herself and that's another story

worm bait I say

aja - check your e-mail and get back to me quick, thanks

So Out Rage Us - quotas of posting per day are only imposed on those who wear out welcomes and really need it (this worm stands guilty as charged. someone help me ballahdate this rule

I wasn't as thrilled as most about Storytellers on VH-1 last night. It was way too short (VH1's fault). I also am not as wild about Jon Herington as most seem to be. He was great with the rhythm parts and some of the solos were good. In other parts he seemed like he was (badly) improvising upon first hearing of the song. I also didn't like the tones he used on any of the solos. I think he was purposely undermixed in Kid C for this reason. If rehersals go well, the tour should be better than the tapings. If not, I think after the tour is over and done with, people will be comparing him to Wayne Krantz and wishing Drew Zingg had been on the tour again. Don't get me wrong, these are all fine guitarists but I expect something special on guitar when I see Donald & Walter perform. I don't expect to hear the solos note for note but I do want to be interested in what the guitarist is playing. Here's hoping it gets better as the summer progresses.

Well if tickets for The Meadows are going on sale this weekend, it's like a cold war secret. The Meadow's official homepage doesn't even list the concert yet - neither does Protix. Tickets.com does however, but no indication of when tikets go on sale. As an example, Poision tickets went on sale two weekends ago - the concert with the date and time tickets go on sale was up on their homepage for at least two weeks prior to the sale.

The only real indication is that the people who pay $150 a year (I think there are 1000 of them and there is a waiting list) to be on the promoters special list that guarentees them tickets to any concert there. A co worker got his notice last Saturday and payment has to be in by this Friday maximum of 4 seats - gold circle seats are $80 - about the same as elsewhere, although I think second section seats underneath are only $65 which is cheaper. Well I've got my wife to agree to go stand in line at a Strawberrie's with cash (they don't take credit cards) since I have team pictures for Little League at 10. Saratoga seats are out of the question since neither of use can be near a computer at 10 and still do the other.

Should know more after the concert scene tomorrow.

I would suppose that Donald migh be more of a baseball and basketball fan (Yankees-Knicks).
Walter strikes me as a Met fan...

Its my two cents...

Donald Fagen and golf at Augusta?????

Spare me...

he's more the bowler type

dr mu, the 12th hole at augusta(golden bell) is indeed the hole you are refering to where norman began to tank his six stroke lead to an eerily unflappable nick faldo a few years ago.(actually lost his ball among the colorful schrubs flanking the green). it's a short par three and the players must carry rae's creek before they traverse ben hogan bridge onto the undulating green. the severe and immediate incline and lush sylvan backdrop make it one of the most challenging and pictuesque holes in golf. how ironic is it, when on the final sunday, these guys are fighting tooth and nail, juxtaposed withinn the glorious greenery and the ubiquitous, melodious songs of the countless birds. wonder if fagen was thinking of this "amen corner" when penning almost gothic? sorta like 'it's too late to turn back. it's now or never."

Daddy G: I wondered when someone was goint to pick up on the Augusta National link. Indeed, Amen Corner at Augusta National is make or break time when the pressure is on. Many lesser men such as Greg Norman have succumbed It's either victory or more often crash and burn. Isn't No 12 that short intimidating hole over the water where lake, bunker, woods and rough await a shot that is not placed in the right place on a postage stamp green? Also a nice tie in to the "living on Gospel time" line at the song's commencement. A little prayer and dive right in.

Dr WuWu, Q: I LOVED what I saw of Do It Again..what's the deal with showing half a song - screw The List. I thought the performances were strong - the horns sounded particularly great. Q is right the audio was far superior to the PBS Special...and it was even more abundantly clear that they were really enjoying themselves...*perhaps* Bad Sneakers went a *little* better on the PBS Special - maybe - but I thought they were on top of their game

The anectdote Walter conveyed was priceless about getting in a Taxi cab and doing his best Brooklynese as he imitated the cab driver, who asked Mr. Becker if he was in the music Biz or show biz. When Walter replied that he was in the group known as Steely Dan the cabbie sez: "Oh yeah, they have the worst line I've ever heard in a song" and Walter replied (and even telling the story he gives it a pause with a mix of bewilderment and bemusement and maybe a bit defensive twist) "Oh yeah, and what might that be?" Cabbie: "Is there gas in the car? Yes, there's gas in the car" LOL. The whole map schtick was priceless as well - did remind me of Letterman's reactions on the old NBC version of the show when the cheesy props (often deliberate) didn't pan out.

19 and 11 months here.

Then again, I act equal parts elderly saucer and childish punk.

Daddy G, sooutrageous, gratefulpurple: I wish I could take credit for being cleverly obscure, but I must confess to inadvertently referencing The Who's Quadrophenia lyric, "I See a Man Without a Problem." Perhaps I should just keep quiet and accept praise for all the things I don't really mean to do...

I had the unique priviledge of seeing The Who front row at the LA Forum in 1996 when they performed Quadrophenia. I must say I could have easily done without seeing Gary Glitter and Billy Idol performing as part of that show, but it was awesome. Simon Townshend (Pete's younger brother) incapably handled lead guitars. So while the show was flawed, it was still fantastic.

I currently have tix to see The Who at Jones Beach ($90!!!), performing the night after our heroes.

With all respect to Daniel Griffith, of the Steve Winwood / Traffic / Spencer Davis Group and Blind Faith fan club, et. al.,
This email fan club newsletter sometimes contains some real doozies. This is one of them. Take it with a HUGE grain of salt.

Before you read on, remember one word: ASIA

Actually two words: ASIA and GTR

From: Daniel Griffith
Subject: Interesting Rumour

I've been getting caught up reading the messages on one list. I
noticed you guys were talking about Steve and Jim, so I thought I'd
send you this rumor I found on a Steely Dan message board a few
weeks ago. I didn't know whether I should post it or not, since it
might be top-secret. I thought you might know if there's any truth to
this

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I found out last night what Becker & Fagen's [Steely Dan] next
project is after the Two Against Nature world tour is over.

This is a mindblower!!!!!!!

They are going to form the first Supergroup of the millennium.

In November they are going into the studio with Steve Winwood,
Thomas Dolby and Jim Capaldi!!!!!

I guess they're all going to co-write songs and do a Traveling
Wilburys kind of thing...

Winwood = Guitar, Keyboards, Vocals
Dolby = Keyboards
Capaldi= Drums (of course)
Becker= Bass, Guitar
Fagen= Keyboards, Vocals

~2vN, i haven't rang in on my 2vN take since my first couple of listens back in early march. pardon my reverie:

after perhaps 1000 takes, i must say 2vN is without question among sd's best work. the music is tight and progressive, the instrumentation is unsurpassed. the compositions epic, classy. the myth continues. in our minds it has become legend.

....the lyric to WOH commencing with "she reached out for my hand" and ending with "don't you love port blanc, when hooterie is over......then the rainy season" is (imho) the epitome of the sd wordcraft.
don't you love it? ain't it cool? who else writes contemporary lyrics such as these? I do-so love "port blanc". in my mind, my store of tomorrows; i've been there. i've enjoyed the rocky outcropping, the gull's plaintive cry, that lonely crescent of beach,the relentless surf, the offshore breeze, the long afternoons by a crackling fire during rainy season.
i've planned my summers; my life for "hooterie". the sailboat regatta, open-barbecue spits, ladies adorned in crimson and black hoop-skirts. castanetts keeping time to the pulsating salsa beat. the edge-close frenzy. the unending wellspring.
i live for the elusive moment when the "girls get easy" and the lovin' is langourous and sweet; the after-glow unending.
we are indeed fortunate. we're the honored initiates. it's like we've been admitted into a little secret society, replete with other-worldly oaths, absurd passwords and macabre initiations. these guys are getting better, craftier, cagier, skeevier, more sublime with age.
i'm glad i "get it"!

steven

Susan: You APPRECIATE it???!!!

Little beaver meets the Bleeker Street brat.

Wow. What can I say. Last night's Storytellers on VH1 was my first glimpse at what Donald and Walter are like as human beings, tortured artists. As someone said previously in this guestbook, I would've been happy with anything from them. They sound great. I really can't wait until this summer. One thing that I find especially amusing is their complete lack of rock star qualities. Its amazing that men such as these ever made it in an industry so obsessed with image. They're awkward, but I love them. They seem so uncomfortable singing their own songs. Well, I certainly appreciate them doing it anyway.

One other thing... Anyone else notice that there were people who were in that audience who seriously looked like they weren't having a good time? Man, that really pisses me off. I would've given ANYTHING to be there. Some people have it so good...

Daddy G- LOL! That was good!

I.O- You're the youngest fan? BAH! I'm the youngest fan.

I don't get VH1, partly because it's not worth the 5.00 extra, but my friend taped it for me. Seb's a good guy. Let's all give him a pat on the back.

Waiting for the Mansfield tix...

Hoops - you've arrived !!!!!!!!!!!

"Show Biz Kids makin movies of themselves, no they don't give...."

just bustin ya, man - you had the only astute question of the program.

Q

sooutrageous-now how am I supposed to keep up my charade of being the indispensible paralegal when you make me laugh out loud(everyone knows law isn't THAT funny). I have an old beau in the INS-I'd be willing to let him have me any way he wants if he can arrange for ballah's rentry denial!

ole-maybe if we all channel our vibes, and chere can throw in some good juju, we can cause 2nd A to be played on the tour! Again, I'll keep you posted on what the sadists, I mean admissions officers, decide. Hell, they made me wait, now they can wait for me!

yellow kid-thanks, I'll pick it up ASAP. Stevie Ray's Chitlins Con Carne is on "The Sky Is Crying". Your collection is not complete without it. What Asian city are you in? I've been all over SE Asia-3 times!

Innocent One-nothing personal, I'm just a busy woman (believe it or not!) You're welcome to e-mail me anytime. Keep the funny posts coming.

The tickets arrived yesterday!!!

Aja

Before all the nit-pickin' scrolls by over the latest visuals/sounds gracing our tubes by the boys, I just want to say that I would have been ecstatic to see them even lip-sync their lines, I've been so starved for anything from them!

Oleander: After divorcing, I could have chosen any fine hamlet in which to perch in my early retirement from the grind, and considered Asheville (it has that enlightened, arty, fine live music, new age, hippy-dippy feel to it I just LUV), but alas the pool of potential suitable beaus was just a might too scant, so I opted for the likes of David Keith types (DK was my contemporary at UTK '74-77) here in VOL country. That public radio station of yours is wonderful, and I tune in regularly. I most certainly want to meet you. I think we have that cruel mistress of medicine in common of sorts? Will send you a mail soon.

cara mia

soout - Thanks for the info on amen corner. I'd heard a passing reference to it but didn't know the details.

Beast - Right with you on the trashy programming at VH1. Viewership for those shows, though, is probably 10-1 compared to what the boys got last night. Torture is the main attraction.

Daddy G - Thanks for the add'l stuff on amen corner. I think one of the reasons I'm on about the 80th listen to this thing is the references and new connections that keep popping out. Plus, my kids are hooked don't complain anymore. Gotta agree that the surrouding area on the cover photo isn't well groomed for a bunker. But what the hell IS it? And why are they photographing it?

Steven:

I don't want to speak for the Beast, but my take on his "Beast w/o A Problem" reference was that it was from the song, "Is it in my Head," from Quadrophenia.

All the lyrics to that one are at http://www.riverdale.k12.or.us/students/jackr/quadlyr.html -- nice little stroll down memory lane.

Where are my tickets? TicketBastard said two weeks. It's been two weeks and one day.

daddy g & beast w/o- is the 'QUAD' reference pertaining to the wonderful dr jimmmy/mr jim thing? haven't heard that song in years. "a raft on a quarry. slowly sinking" "apple-scrumping" and the rest of townsend's o-so-unique lyrics. man....it takes me back.
the market's starting to kick ass here. clients can take a breather on the stool between rounds. anyone else punch-drunk?

steven

wish I were a storyteller (had to settle for an old monty python movie)

back from da beach

monday my daughter and I were boby surfing 6 foot waves with boards. So JW - you really can stand up on those things

EDD- I too have no cable, but my dad's place at the beach does and seeing a Police - Behind the Music and the adds for this weeks stellar Storytellers really hurt.

SOme day I may have cable again, but I really am not home much and the vcrs and dvd take second precedence to a good book or ear candy.

Razor Boy -
soilant one - so your mind is in the depends - sorry to conjur up such images - think soil think organics after they have fully decomposed

and no fears there
anyone can easily match wits with a worm - so do join in
I thought of a few more one word turns on my trip out but lost them in a long relaxing weekend. Will jog those memo banks soon.
This damn concussion has displaced a few cerebral connections..

Daddy G - loved your Negative Poster song - had me rolling!!
more please.

JW and Ruby - I'll plan on re viz a teen 11 Whacker Trackers this week, so why only one a day there dudette?

Aja - glad to here that the subtle advice is working
now if I could just run into dream girl from thursday night at the Jazzfest later this week or another club setting.

Tster

first dan hook song - Show biz kids

I detect the el-supremo from the room at the top of the stairs

gratefulpurple:

I don't think that's a bunker shot on TvN. Those weeds are just too damn high and the fringe is too irregular for it to be a golf course. Well ... maybe a "rural" golf course ...

Steven is right on about the Amen Corner. I would just add that "Amen Corner" could also be a metaphor for the concept of being in a situation where there is no turning back. "Amen" literally means "so be it," and the dictionary definition of the Amen Corner is a "conspicuous corner in a church occupied by fervent worshippers." I guess it doesn't matter whether you're at Augusta National or in a church -- if you're in the Amen Corner, you're pretty much committed.

Beast w/o A Problem:

Nice Quadrophenia reference. Just so's ya know that one didn't slip by. I'm going to check out that Pete Townsend segment too.

I was disappointed with the VH-1 show, mainly because of VH-1. They cut off FM and that new version of Do It Again. There were too many commercials and I felt like the band held back a little. It was a very good performance, but the Channel 13 performance was better.

On the positive side, Donald looked much better and they were funny as hell. Donald should shave his beard. I mean, his beard is grey, but he has a full head of black hair. If he shaved the beard, he would look 10 years younger. I also thought that his voice sounded stronger.

Looking forward to Jones Beach. Anyone know when the tixx go on sale?

~amen corner: the 10th, 11th & 12th holes at the majestic augusta national in GA. (especially on sunday afternoon; the final round of the master's) that's were champions are made so-to-speak. it's the part of the course and the tournament where the extreme pressure and competition seperate the "chosen" from the also-rans. quite ironic given D&W's past emotional tribulations. it's called "L-U-V". perhaps they'll succeed this time around.

steven

~kudos to john herington; he sounded great.

How refreshing it was to turn on VH-1 and not see Mariah Carey, Christina Aguilara Tonsilitis, some insultingly lame-ass "boy band," Meat Loaf or the sad, sad lives of Vanilla Ice, Hammer, Milli Vanilli and The Partridge Family. Oy Vey.

Looking forward to seeing Pete Townshend on Wed. night.

While Storytellers was great and a real treat to see the guys ham it up a bit, they band seemed more relaxed for the PBS tapings, and it showed in the musicianship, IMHO.

Hoops: Decaf. Try it. :-)

FM
Peg
Kid Charlemagne
Bad Sneakers
Josie
Do it Again
Cousin Dupree
What a Shame about Me

That was fun! Horn section was real nice in Kid C and Cousin D. Walter's solos on Bad Sneakers and Josie were worth a second listen. Donald was, well Donald. And that ain't bad. Ooops, gotta go to work. I'll be home at lunchtime watching this again, and turning it up!

is there gas in the car?

"The band was hotza........."!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man were they loose but tight! All smiles and hittin (almost) every note - Lawson was really "up"

I was there for the shows the night before and they ripped, but Herrington was completely masterful on last night's performance!!!!!!!!!

He really is every past Dan guitarist incarnated in one man's body and soul!!!!!! (not really, but a good start on a marketing tag line...........)

Very well produced - ie from what I heard from people who went - it was a little awkward - but this came off seemlessly and captured Don & Walt's deft humor. Great audio production too.

Kudo's to VH-1 (I can't believe I'm saying that.....)

Q

Has anyone got a copy of "Shanghai Confidential"? I need it for a special Steely Dan radio show on 10 May. A tape would be ideal. Please contact me at above e-mail.

Cheers all.

A good summary of events even if not acurate in terms of some dates:
http://www.billboard.com:80/daily/2000/0424_06.aspq

Alburqurque - what a great way to christen an a new venue. Peg are you guys going? I've been to White Sands Test Facility - and flown into to Alburqurque, would be a great place for a concert.

http://www.abqjournal.com/news/13368news04-24-00.htm

Hoops - you looked great - always wanted to go to NYC, huh?

3

Chere: I feel sure that your good deed will come back to you and VH1 will re-air the special soon. In a nutshell (I am getting ready to crash myself) no new ground musically, our boys were well received and totally literate. As a matter of fact, they were frighteningly good. Almost like they could be doing Wheel of Fortune or something. They were obviously funnier than I am being right now, but it's late. Like I said, not enough new music for my taste (only Dupe and Shame) and no Dr. Wu as far as old favs but these are small complaints. I wish it could be a mini-series. Anyway peace & goodnight

Anyone here go by a different "chat type" name of Longtallguy? I got this random e mail that he wants to talk to me, there was a litle smiley face after, and there are alot of smiley faces here that end sentences so I was wondering. I tried to e mail back with a request to please advise me on how to connect- message came back to me undeliverable. So is the Longtallguy here on the GB? Just curious.- chere

Peace love and ALL that Is DAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Official Storytellers comments:

Toooo damn short.

As opposed to most shows by so-called "aging rockers", I found myself really wanting to hear more of the NEW songs. That was actually my only disappointment other than barely being able to hear Herington.

Two Words=Bad Sneakers

Okay I have been planning the wait and night for the Storytellers gig. Where was I? At the ER with my baby sister who is a VERY sick little bugger. High fever and stuff. The Dx was "walking Pneumonia". Nice. What am I gonna do say No? So I go in the hopes there is a TV in the waiting room. I live out in the county now- the small hospital has NO TV. I missed it. Whe does it air again? Somebody tell me they are gonna "Do IT Again" tomorrow.The Shock and Horror of it all! Curse whatever coughed or sneezed in her general direction!

Sooutrageous- You are love!Love is you! check your e mail.

To all those out there that have sent me the kind karma and short e mails - little notes of niceness- THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!!!

To EVERYONE:
What songs did they play?
Which NEW ones?
C'mon what's the dish?
I'm dyin' ova here!!!

Trying not to be pissed- chere

I mean *dramamine*

such a night...

That's the last time I tease my wife about setting her watch 5 min ahead. The plan was set, the plan was done. At 8:59 CDT I tune in and FM is 2/3 finished!!! Damn station run by wanna be artists. Great show! They sounded fabulous and no dramaine was necessary to enjoy the shots of the band. They'll Do It Again tomorrow at 11:30 EDT (10:30 CDT and 8:30 PDT) after The List. The VCR will be poised here at 10:25 our time. Nice rendition of Do It Again. The Q&A were just short enough so the Letterman and Letterman schtick worked - we could have had 30 min more of tunes. Is 60 or 90 min standard??

Really exciting about the never befores!

What a day! Tickets for Pine Knob arrived along with the VHS Plush tape. (Now just waiting for the Chicago tix and the Milwaukee on-sale May 8.) Then VH1 an hour ago. Hoops asked a fine question (finally someone did) and Walter seemed poised to reminisce. Then they dropped that stupid map and the thing fell apart. Oh well. It's just so much fun to hear and see all this after the little bit we've had for the last 20 years.

Looking forward to seeing some of you at a Trifecta bash.

By the way, isn't Amen Corner one of the difficult spots at Augusta? And isn't that a bunker on the cover photo of TvN?

Oh yea, going to see Leon Redbone in a couple weeks and I guess he's been covering Chain Lightning at his recent shows. Can't wait.

MC--Yes, Hopkins & Moore. They'll be based at the Biltmore House, I hear. Should be fun. BTW, VERY fine artwork!

cara mia--hell, I thought you were someplace more exotic. You in Knocksvul? Call me when you blow through; we can do sushi or tapas....

Fletch--great link! More vids to add to the list. And "High Fidelity The Book" is now up there too.

Did anyone read Hornby's review in "The New Yorker"? I actually did write to him as he requested, to explain "gaslighting." No way to know if they forwarded it to him, but it was good for me.

soout--well, there's only one way to find out, hm? The posters for "Me, Myself and Irene" are up in theaters. Grins on your scenario.

Razor--"Only A Fool Would Say That," like the Daddyman.

DaddyG--very very funny.

Q--very kind of you.

Aja--my wild hopes exactly! Could it be 2A? Century's End? Can't Write Home About You? More suspense?!? --Good move on school. Fingers again crossed for you.

Yellow keed--in stitches over the "abduction casebook." I must count for at least a dozen cases my own self.

Stranger--sign me up for that lamp-plugging class.

Storytellers: now that was a lot of fun. Too damn short.

What a day! Tickets for Pine Knob arrived along with the VHS Plush tape. (Now just waiting for the Chicago tix and the Milwaukee on-sale May 8.) Then VH1 an hour ago. Hoops asked a fine question (finally someone did) and Walter seemed poised to reminisce. Then they dropped that stupid map and the thing fell apart. Oh well. It's just so much fun to hear and see all this after the little bit we've had for the last 20 years.

Looking forward to seeing some of you at a Trifecta bash.

By the way, isn't Amen Corner one of the difficult spots at Augusta? And isn't that a bunker on the cover photo of TvN?

Oh yea, going to see Leon Redbone in a couple weeks and I guess he's been covering Chain Lightning at his recent shows. Can't wait.

~a paperback copy of hemingway's "for whom the bell tolls", $7.95

~a designer series 3 piece black leather "coach" garmet bag, portfolio, and attache'; $369

~a round trip ticket to amsterdam, the eclectic capital of the netherlands; $699

~Ballah's re-entry visa being denied by the I.N.S.; FUCKING PRICELESS!

Don't leave home without it.

PBS tape arrived today and StoryTellers footage is "in the can".
It's a beautiful rainy Dan-dy Monday...

Looking forward to the beach party in San Diego (Aja, Mexican
food sounds great pre-show) and tail-gaiting with Stranger et al
in Irvine. Are there any plans for a gathering during the LA mid-week shows?

cara mia

Hi,
If I was remiss in my previous post,it was just some quick observations of tonights VH-1 show.

Ed

DUMP THE MAP-HOOPS GET AIR TIME@CAN'T SIT STILL-WHY DID THEY ALLOW THE TYRANNY OF THE DISALLOWED(ASK ABOUT THE NAME OF THE BAND AGAIN)

GREAT SHOW...BUT I'M BIASED...

Talk to me...

Just got the tickets for Irvine, CA in the mail. I notice it's actually at 8 pm, making traffic less of a headache. I have finally figured out how to construct a special email list just for Irvine Danfesters. I am very proud of this new technical know-how. Next I shall learn how to plug in a lamp.

Somebody should do a rock opera of the Elian story as in Tommy, except they better work fast. Anybody remember Tanya Harding? Neither do I. Maybe O.J. or Monica remembers. They should all start a club.

Who's the guitarist? Looks like Lou Reed. Anyone else notice DF's incisors are about an inch long?

Everyone enjoying the storytellers? The "rural narrative," etc.?

aja- your request for a kenny Burrell cd.....would be the classic Midnight Blue (Blue Note 746399-2)...it does include the insanely cool 'Chitlins Con Carne'......I have never heard the Stevie Ray version but I am sure it is great.....my brother thinks that Clapton is a satanists, as it was he who was to sit on the ill-fated helicopter in which Stevie was killed.....a haunting replay of Waylon Jennings giving his seat to Buddy Holly.....but I digress...another Burrell on is circa '62 'Burrell and Coltrane' (OJC 300).......

I work for a jazz cd shop in a large asian city...where Steely Dan gets no airplay....and most people don't even know who 'he' is!
.........I think somewhere around 1981 I became a character in a Steely Dan song and have been leading a surreal double life.....I am sure a lot of you GBers are the same....sort of a Steely Dan abduction casebook....Fagen and Becker will come clean soon....

Mulder:'Scully it's another Steely Dan song impersonation case...call Skinner...tell him to get hold of Roger Nichols..."
Scully:"Oh Mulder, Steely Dan broke up in 1980....they're not relevant anymore..."
Mulder:"Scully.....'are you reeling in the years" is a coded mantra from 6th century bc...."
Skinner;"Agent Mulder I wanna see you in my office!"

Waiting patiently for another Plush Couch TV extravaganza!!!!!

Ed *Dr Kruger* Beatty

My sincere thanks to Sooutrageous for the offer.

Razor - LOL....no idea about the quote :\

Fletch

Hey everyone! Hope everyone had a great Easter! it's sucks being back to the grind today! HEY! School counts! :) Anyways,

RAZOR BOY: Well, since i'm youngest SD fan and all, my dad used to play so many songs but the first one i knew when i was about 2 1/2, 3 was Ricky don't lose that number, but i used to sing, ricky don't lose that bumba! haha! I was cute what can i say j/k.

Miz Ducky- Seatle huh? Wow i've always wanted to go there~ I've heard it's cool but very busy

Aja- i'm glad that you dragged me down here also. Why don't I hear from you anymore? :(

Daddy G- that remake was hillarious! i used to do that all the time with various other songs. Its fun isn't it??

sooutrageous- that was so nice of you to offer that to Edd!! wow your kindness made me smile! I'm glad to know there are cool and kind people out there! keep up the good work!!

Edd- sounds like your set buddy~ we would never let you down!! :)

Ms. Turnbull -get over it! we are having fun, pull the stick out!

Everyone else- You guys are all awesome! Feel free to talk to me even if i didn't put your name down!
Bye everyone! Keep on rockin'

Just got the latest newsletter. There is an especially tantalizing bit about the band conducting rehearsals of songs NEVER PERFORMED ON STAGE that were being tested out as tour possibilities. Oooooooooooh, the speculation! Could one be "The Second Arrangement"??????

Aja

Daddy G: LOL! The clarification was hardly needed! Good one!

Caller: Are there any plans to do any live performances?

DF: Oh yes, eventually we'll come back here with a hot band and knock your socks off.

.. clarified that my last post was an Ode to Ballah.

He's stoked -- he's pissed
He's puking on a couch somewhere
Or high -- or home
Banging on his keyboard there

I wait -- I smoke
He says he’s doing coke
It's happening again
I tell myself he’s just messing with us, amen

His skin -- like milk
It's like he's never seen the sun
Some Glen’s to slug
Is more like his idea of fun
I know -- he's ill
This guy’s a friggin’ pill
I'm scrolling just the same
I need to read every word
Of his schizoid flame

CHORUS:
Another negative post
At the top of the page
Deliciously toxic
The original classic thing –- more of the same, more of the same

you knew he'd come back...he needs the attention...

and here we have a prime contender for the annual "Bad Hemingway" contest.

It's the beginning of the week and I sit to ponder things for a bit. What have I got? I've got a roof over my head, plenty of food, clothing. As far as Maslow's concerned, my basic needs are met. I've got 154 unread email messages in one of my mailboxes, most of them I'll never read and never reply to. I've got four new voicemails. One of them is from my Belgique ex-girlfriend, one is a salesperson, one is another bitch ex-girlfriend, obviously drunk or high asking me to come over and fuck her, and another is from Wavrowski, he's ecstatically screaming at me about Steely Dan tickets going on sale. I don't answer any of the messages. No, I rather make myself a caesar salad and then leave it in the fridge to chill for a bit. The anchovy dressing is warm and I don't like my salad's fucking warm. I flip on the television, jerk off to the latest porn flick I've ripped off from a friend's house, and when I'm done wiping myself clean, turn on the latest album by Arab Strap. The band is named after a contraption that somewhat resembles a dildo, and I have to wonder why I tend to like bands named after dildos. I don't think I've ever even used a dildo to fuck a chick with, and obviously have never used one on myself. Who knows, I might have used a dildo on a chick before. I can't fucking remember. Let's see here, what else have I got? Well, I've got my passport, a round trip ticket to Amsterdam, two pair of Kenneth Cole shoes that need repair, a cabeza that direly needs a haircut, half a bottle of Monopolova....fuck, what else? Oh, I can't forget my weatherbeaten and worn copy of Islands in the Stream by old Papa Hem. Hem was truly the master in every sense of the idea. Truly he was able to capture the element of conversation, and as unruly and backwoods he was at times, he always seemed to have the sentiments of a grand gentleman. I look forward to the ten hour plane trip in which I will dissolve this text in it's completeness...I get up off the futon for a moment, dizzy, disoriented. I feel a sudden gag reflex and puke on the coffee table. Maybe I won't eat that salad...

...the guitarist in question on "Chain Lightning"/Jeff Porcaro Tribute Concert ~ was Denny Dias. My old buddy Ed VH didn't take the stage until close to the end, and was certainly not in prime form that evening (tail-end of his boozin' years), but it was certainly a thrill to watch Denny, Ed, Steve Lukather & Mr. George Harrison trade guitar licks during the finale! That concert was definitely one for the books!!!

Hi all:

Steve: all of your talk about the Jeff Porcaro Tribute, while doing some research on Jeff Porcaro, I found an article entitled "The Drummers of Steely Dan" from Modern Drummer Mag. The link is below:

http://perso.club-internet.fr/slewis/jeff.porcaro/article/md92dan.txt

and a Jeff Porcaro web site:

http://perso.club-internet.fr/slewis/jeff.porcaro/sommaire.html

The article is excellent and give you a good idea of how it was to work with B&F from a drummers point of view and how they handled it. Great stories and great interviews from all of the top SD drummers.

In my opinion, Jeff Porcoro is THE drummer for Steely Dan, from Pretzel to The Nightfly, He's been there for B&F.

Even a Monkey can play the drums!

The Chimp

~dr mu, yes i know it's derringer on the katie lied recording but i was refering to the riff on the jeff porcaro tribute out in LA back in 91. fagen & dias took the stage with toto to resounding applause. the guitar solo on this rendition of 'chain lightning'
absolutley smoked. on the show's blurb list it stated that eddie van halen was also on the stage. you can find this recorded piece on tomas broberg's sd link under "video & sound" tab. check it out. broberg's video & sound bytes are a must attend for all true sd fans (aural & visual quality notwithstanding).
steven

so: I think that's Rick Derringer, but not 100%

EA: Enough blowhard

~edd, no need to worry. drop me a line: sooutrageous@cs.com i'll get a copy to you by week's end.

~btw, has anyone heard any of the sound and video bytes on tomas
bronberg's(sp)excellent sd page. the interviews were insightful hilarious and the jeff porcaro tribute kicks ass. (is that really denny dias doing that lightning-fast lick at the end of chain lightning or did eddie van halen play along on that tune? i knew denny had world-class chops but i didn't realize he had that kind of speed.)

steve

Alas, I am amongst that small techno-minority known as "cable challenged"...

HooRay!!! The Milwaukee show is finally on the tickemaster list! Internet on sale is listed as starting on May 8th, 10 a.m.
I may have to take that morning off....

Saratoga show is also listed.

Peace, love and DAN

Razor

Mrs. Turnbull-you must have an AWFUL lot of time on your hands if you read back that far. Yes, lower caps is technically not correct, but that's how it's referred to here at my firm and it carries over onto the GB when I write. Hutch-great catch!

cara mia-I'm having GREAT success with my romantic pursuit (thanks, tom!) e-mail me-I love sharing what works!

Razor Boy-the song that hooked me on the Dan? Why, "Aja" of course! I heard it on the radio and was immediately carried off to a wondrous, fantasy place, and it still takes me there every time.

Aja

Dragon-
The Ice Palce is a hockey rink and and an acoustical monstrosity - ask ANY sound engineer who's ever been there ( hey, I asked Roger Nichols when we were at Sony Studios and he knew the place!)

Orlando is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!

BUT - last tour Orlando was not sold out - so I 'm sure that scored no points this time around.

Could have been scheduling - probably the promoter's bid was inadequate(again -see '96 tour)

Well here we go again, you get action and excitement and the fuckheads come back littering our nice little community.

C'mon nobody deserves the kind of outrageous derogatory post that a very venerable and productive member (a person who has often made the "morning fabulous" and rescued more than a few "dreary Sunday(s)") of this board recieved recently - and in classic form - with no real name.

Gutless people make me sick - they should all be sent to an island off the coast of Florida where the have great cigars and no guts.

Q

~big fan, cute how the indian article refers to chris potter's dynamic "trumpet" solo at the end of WOH. he's goota be a very discerning music critic. chuh?

~enough already; ole's a guy. but i guess you resemble that remark. as we say in nyc: any port in a storm.

The Hindu - India's national newspaper gives 2AN favorable review:
http://www.indiaserver.com/thehindu/2000/04/24/stories/09240702.htm

For those living in caves dept - VH1 tonight 10PM - many sources covering this today - here's a sample:

http://www.spokane.net/news-story-body.asp?Date=042400&ID=s794868&cat=

Dragon-I wasn't speaking from experience...I've never been to the Ice Palace. Some friends told be the Acoustics sucked there.I'll decide for myself If I ever get a chance to buy some tickets...LOL.
St Al- I'm not a bumber sticker guy (don't want to call attention to a Van full of Gear) But that is a Good'n'.
Goin' out for Birthday Sushi with some Crazy Musician Friends.
See Ya, David

Razor Boy:

Song that got me hooked on the Dan ... another tough one. I guess I was hooked almost from the start. Sure, I liked "Reelin'" when it first came out, as well as "Dirty Work" and "Do it Again" from the AM radio. Liked them enough to buy CBAT. I guess once I got to "Only a Fool Would Say That," I was hooked for good. Like many here, I wore the grooves right out of CBAT that first year before Countdown came out. My poor, tortured college roommate. I can still remember his words to this very day ... "If you don't stop playing that goddamn Steely Dan, I'm gonna come over there and break your f*cking face!"

Ahhh, sweet memories.

YGK:

Nice catch on the DJ Spin. Glad to see there are some still some folks out there in radio land who are doing more than just going through the motions.

"Wake up dahh-lin'
They're knocking
The Colonel's standing in the sun
With his stupid face, the glasses, and the gun."

Too perfect. Won't you pour me a Cuban breeze, Gretchen?

Interesting DJ Spin: WBAI - NYC 99.5 FM played "Goodbye Look" with audio samples of Elian related walkie talkie transmissions over the intro as part of Peter Bochan's "All Mixed Up" Monday Morning Radio show.....

ygk

Ms. Turnbull - That would be CAPITALS, not CAPITOLS. Right?

Song that hooked me:
It was Green Flower Street. My cousin's dad, a longtime DanFan, picked up the New York Rock and Soul Review. He told me that I "gotta hear this" and I loved it.

We rummaged through some of his records and found some Steely Dan stuff (we were looking for more DF, and his dad told us to look for seely dan plus the whole concept behind the name [he was drunk, as usual]) and picked out Greatest Hits.

It grew from there.

steve: All is forgiven [for a SD concert ticket ;-)]. But seriously, StAl was correct, I had taken your post that I responded to seriously, a mistake I was bound to make sooner or
later given that I usually just skim the board anymore and sarcasm and related humor are difficult to convey in this medium. I apologize. However I find it ironic that your
response to my response prompted a giggle and grin (Thanks!), because I thought it was mock spite.

Miz Ducky: I think that oysters are pretty plentiful in months without an R, however, I’ve heard that it is wise to avoid them during those months to avoid a greater risk of food
poisoning that might occur due to higher temperatures which create a nice environment for some nasty bacteria.

David in FL room: I certainly hope that it was a scheduling conflict that made whomever it was that booked SD in Tampa and not in Orlando. What I’m saying is, you have just
stated that Tampa is “Crappiest Sounding Venue on the Tour”, while other sources from past tours have stated that WB&DF were pleased with Orena and that it had excellent acoustics. I’m still trying to straighten my nose out about this heinous oversight. ;-)

sooutrageous: Speaking of “Summer Breeze” I could swear that voice singing a bar or two of said song on a commercial (I think it’s for ceiling fans, which coincidentally in the
Orl. area there are a few Dan’s Fan City-s around) belongs to none other than Phoebe Snow (of NYR&SR).

chere: Just because you are not being responded to directly does not mean you are being ignored, Trust me.

Edd: talking auto mechanics like that you’d bettah watch out whose motor you might start up. Watts the male equivalent of a cocktease?

Zeke?Louisiana danfans: SD not doing a show in LA might have something to with the outlawing of certain sexual devices in that state. Probably not, but makes ya think...

Musical Food For Thought: 60’s: Patsy Cline, Dave Brubeck, Thelonius Monk, The Beatles, Neil Diamond. 70’s: Queen, Van Morrison, The Kinks, The Cars, Credence Clearwater Revival, Linda Rondstat, Soundtrack from “The Sting”, Carly Simon, Simon
& Garfunkel, James Taylor, Carole King, Steve Miller Band, Stevie Wonder, Honorable Mention: Rod Stewart (if only for that line about Beardsley prints), [and who could forget: Hooked on a Feeling, Dr. Hook, Hooked on Classics ;-)]. Sad Song: “Magic” by Ben Folds Five, but another song that choked me up at least the first dozen or so times I heard it, was Bob Dylan’s Warm Embrace(?) not the Garth Brooks version (although he did a great job)but BD’s off Time Out of Mind, I’m not sure why it affects me so, but I guess art will do that from time to time.

Favourite Top Three SD Songs: Countdown to Ecstasy, Year of the Cat, Relaxin’ In Camarillo. Sorry Innocent One, but I’ve discussed that one, two many times, so I just have to have fun with it. If you do decide to stay it’s good thing you have got someone to look out for you. Welcome to the GB.

Dragon

I’m really disappointed in you people. I would expect this kind of slip-up would come from fans of ‘N Sync, but not you children. I know you are intelligent enough not to make such stupid mistakes. Please try to do better next time.
this phrase is set in lower case. THIS IS ALL CAPITOLS. (Yes, I realize that is a sentence fragment, but I don’t like shouting more than necessary). There is no such thing as lower caps, pass it on.
Thank you,
Ms.Turnbull

Speaking of the late Mr. Zappa, - "Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar" RULES!!!!!!!!!!
At the end of the day though, it's still ALL DAN like!

Better late than never......

Got a bit tied up in traffic today. I95- and then the 826W. Not too much heavy bad action once I got into Hialeah though. But the ride back was full of the usual gridlock.

Got in the car, cranked up "two Vs nature.' LOUD!!!!! Lit an incense stick- Nag Champa My fav. Then I conjured up the "jack of speed" and he carried me safely to my destination. We Sho shook a lil' sumptin on the way down south. Sporting my usual peace sign out the window loud and proud to ANYONE who noticed whether they think I'm crazy or not. Alot more children there than expected. I came up with this great idea for an easter egg hunt, so we refilled plastic eggs with candy and notes and stickers, anything we could find and imagine, and mixed em up wth the boiled dyed eggs and got half the kids in this project housing hunting. The old folks were watching with smiles from above the stairs, probably reminiscent of days gone by. Then I found a store that was open and spent my traveling ten on some easter cupcakes and doled them out too. Everyone got something. Black, white, and candystripe. Everyone got a bit of sunshine and fresh air and I am still grinning from all the hoopla. Sometimes it is really just a matter of getting a few folks stirred up (Mr. Marley) and everything just flows into place. Everyone smiles and forgets about their yesterday.

Sooutrageous- I emailed you propa and then some- be patient if you can. I can be longwinded. I pray to christ that's not your work e amil or something.

Das right! Me, two and nature made a miracle happen near NW 103rd street today.
I'm still abuzz from all the child vibration from dem chilin's hangin off me like an octopus.
Blesssed be dat new DAN and all that NATURE inspiration.
Sho we right!!!!

- chere

I try to avoid promoting money-making ventures on this web site but a friend has created a bumpersticker I think is kinda funny, though certainly not original...

ZAPPA/GARCIA in 2000

3 bucks including shipping. Go here for more information:

http://www.newfrontierconsulting.net/mcart

StAl

Just wanted to weigh in here a little, glad I discovered this place. Been a Dan fan since the mid 70's. All my CD's were stolen in my move form Germany back here to the states. ;-( All my Dan stuff was gone. I just recently repurchased most of the newer? CD's. But am having a hard time finding some of the stuff.
I think the people here are communists or something.

Love the new CD, The only problem now is I WANT MORE.......NOW!

Have a good night.

Midnight & Opti - awesome work on the CD covers.....love the mountain scene as it reminds me of the legnthy drive out to the studio...

it seems the GB is as vibrant and emotional as ever!

ygk

Fletch - another connection with Cusak: there was a character in "Say Anything" singing along to Rikki while it was playing on the radio.

I wish High Fidelity had two other Dan nods that were in Nick Hornby's book. One was where the clerk Barry formed a band and called it "Barrytown". When Rob reacts like Barry is full of himself he says "No, you know, after the Steely Dan tune".
The other scene in the book is where Rob is dividing up the record collection after a break-up and he recalls fondly buying "The Nightfly" for Laura because she had never heard it.

Finally saw "Making of Aja" today! Fav moment is Donald rapping "Uptown Baby" to Black Cow. Is was nice to see Donald smiling!

24 hours to StoryTellers!

Razor Boy....no infringement of any kind....God supplied the scenery, I took the photo and did the alterations....glad you enjoyed!

soout....ya want some more? well here's some more! Possible CD Covers for the upcoming, very limited release Danfest Jam CD....mp3's will be posted in the weeks to come.

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6974/DanFestCovers.html

these are just tests so far....artwork by Jim & Shirl Productions...my lovely wife and myself.

MC & Opti

Oleander- BLOW ME!

Oleander- BLOW ME!

Hey there!

Just got home from my folks house. I Forgot how good Mom can cook, just about rolling off my chair.

MC-excellent job on Any World. Makes awesome wallpaper. I hope that doesn't infringe on any copyright laws. Keep up the good work.

soout-rumor has it that Me, Myself and Irene is opening on the weekend of the Trifecta. Perhaps an opportunity to sit around an recover for a few hours and check out the tunes in the movie? Just a thought.

Chere- A big shot of groovin' juju coming at ya!

Fletch-You are the sh*t! All these years I thought I knew everything and here ya are blowin' me away. There's another one I'll have to rent. Here's a line from a non-Cusak 80's flick...
"That's not a joke, that's a severe behavioral disorder." Name that movie...

Newbie slime- Good to see you post again. I Think I got here just after you did. Don't be discouraged and don't take anything personal. This is an "Open Forum" for those of us lucky enough to be in the know about the DAN. It's a common bond that links all of us in one way or another all around the globe. Not everyone is going to agree with what someone else says or thinks but that opens the door to some of the great discussions that go on here. Just speak from your heart and you're bound to be heard by someone. Keep on Postin'!

innocent one- What was the song that got you hooked on the Dan? Anyone else?
It was Haitian Divorce for me. A good friend of mine was going through that back around '87. I had heard them before and liked them but hadn't "gotten it" yet. He played that song constantly and one night...WHAM! that was it. They next day, I bought the Greatist hits double cassette and wore that thing out in a matter of months.

Gotta go now, but one last thought....

Can you truly enjoy life if you worry about yesterday and fear about tommorrow?

Peace, love and Dan

Razor

Just sat down tonight and figured out the chords to the bridge of "Jack of Speed". Note: you'll have to find your own voicings, but whenever I say mi7, you know you can put a fourth in there.
"Maybe got lucky" Dma7, Dbmi7, B7, F#mi. "No way back" Dbmi7, F#mi7
"He's a one way rider" Dma7, Dbmi7, Bmi7, A7(#5,#9) resolving to A7(#5,b9) "New best friend" Dbmi7, Bmi7, Ama7, Db7(#9) resolving to Db7(b9). Ed and company: any help with Gaslighting would be most appreciated. Very tough for me to hear that one.

Sorry, forgot a B7 after the first Dbmi7

Just sat down tonight and figured out the chords to the bridge of "Jack of Speed". Note: you'll have to find your own voicings, but whenever I say mi7, you know you can put a fourth in there.
"Maybe got lucky" Dma7, Dbmi7, F#mi. "No way back" Dbmi7, F#mi7
"He's a one way rider" Dma7, Dbmi7, Bmi7, A7(#5,#9) resolving to A7(#5,b9) "New best friend" Dbmi7, Bmi7, Ama7, Db7(#9) resolving to Db7(b9). Ed and company: any help with Gaslighting would be most appreciated. Very tough for me to hear that one.

Hey all!

Just had a happy Easter with my brother-in-law, his wife, and my niece and nephew. Very nice-hope everyone else enjoyed today as well. Went to a great service this morning-the emphasis was that with every loss, there is the potential for new life (as seen in the Resurrection), but I think this is an important message for anyone, regardless of their faith. You can't control what life deals you, but you can decide how much your losses will control you. People are surprised to find out what I've been through this past year and a half because I'm always so upbeat, but that's because I've resolved to wring every last drop of happiness and life from each day that I've been blessed with. It's my way of not letting loss take over my life. I bought a Lance Armstrong poster that says "I take nothing for granted; I have only good days and great days". Good words.

ole-statistically, I should have a better chance when there are more spaces (as in the beginning of the year), applicant levels are dropping at about 10% or more each year, and I requested early decision, meaning I will definitely attend that school if admitted. Time will tell if that's a good decision. I have no idea where I am on the wait-list.

JWMalibu, ruby baby, and all others coming to the beach party: COOL! I was driving past Carlsbad beach and the waves were great, along with good eateries, so Saturday should be another wing-ding!

Innocent One-glad I lured you down here :)!

Aja

~cruiser, please don't take offense to my previous post. like most of my stuff, it was simply blather.(and filled with horrendous typos to boot!) we ivy league pseudo-intellectuals are all full of shit. thank heavens a few fellow columbians escaped unscathed; burroughs, kerouac, ginsberg et.al.
your page is great. keep it coming.

~fletch, hoops mccann is a common nickname in basketball circles, though i certainly do not doubt that savage steve holland is indeed a steely dan fan. i read an interview he gave about 15 years ago where the interviewer asked him that question directly. he sort of side stepped and tap-danced a bit but finally admitted he'd been a listener for some time. anyhoo, the movie was farrelly-brothers-nifty.
btw, can't wait for their next pic. the soundtrack is much anticipated by the denizens of this board.(smashmouth doing sd.....chuh?)

steven

Razor and ole - Of course Cusack and the Dan have a certain link. In the movie 'One Crazy Summer' (1986), he plays a character called 'Hoops McCann'
The movie also co-stars a young Demi Moore.
It's a bit of a quirky movie, directed by Savage Steve Holland (who also directed Better Off Dead)

Fletch

BigFanMan - call me !!!!

It looks as though I'm headed your way for:

PNC

Jones Bch

The Who Jones Bch

May do Roger Waters (6/2) instead of Dan Gorge(but will do Vegas(with wife), LA's, and Irvine)only because it would help keep my marriage together - what does the throng say - thumbs up - or "desparate and dark"..............

Anyone interested in 16th row dead center Gorge tix(also Portland?) ??????????
Not definate but likely -email me...........

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soout....I designed/assembled the collage....it was a reference to D&W's existance around and just after their time at Bard. Both were heavily into Burroughs & Kerouac and named the band after the steel dildo in Naked Lunch (but I'm sure you already knew that)....also was one of the earliest pics of the band I could find, a first edition copy of Naked Lunch, Reefer Madness which Burroughs wrote the forward to, the map of Bard itself and filling in all the border areas is an original painting by Burroughs....just a little something to do on a quiet evening....glad you enjoyed, thanks for the feedback.

MC

spent the day at my families, the fodd and the company were outstanding. hope everyone had a safe and enjoyable day.

~the 'my old school collage' is wonderful, but i take serious exception to the artistic license the creators usurped when designing the page. both burroughs & kerouc are alums of my alma mater. they are columbia lions. come on guys i know our football team sucks but me a break. lol

~walter's best solo is his wonderfully melodious riff on WOH. he's seasoned well with age.

~anthony hopkins will reprise his hannibal role in the 'lambs' sequel. the female lead went to the naturally beautiful and super-talented redheaded 'now-girl' julianne moore. her turns in 'magnolia', 'the end of the affair' and boogie nights' were stunning. she'll be a more than capable replacement for the too-busy jodie foster.(harris' hannibal sequel was really inferior to the first two parts of the triology imho.)

steven

steven

Oleander: LOL! at your post-modern Pesach song!

Innocent One: Originally I am from Nyack NY, in the northern suburbs of New York City. And man, can I identify with Don&Walt's experiences of growing up alienated in Squaresville, Suburbia, while one of the Great Centers of Urban Culture and Decadence simmered away just out of reach! Then I spent several years, including college, living in Boston; and since 1989, I have called Seattle home.

/the Mam'zelle

btw, that's William Burroughs & Jack Kerouac (twice each) in the My Old School collage

if anyone's interested, a little attempt at Steely Dan artwork:

Any World That I'm Welcome To:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6974/AnyWorld.jpg

My Old School:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6974/MyOldSchoolSmall.jpg

MC

Asheville is just across the way about 100miles from me, Oleander, and I have my year's Biltmore Pass in hand. Didn't realize you were that close by. We should have tea sometime!
Who's starring in the Hannibal movie?

Thank you, Chere, for the offer of juju and such. Very generous and kind. May it come back to you ten-fold. I was also touched by
SoOut and his offer to you.

You folks are becoming more real by the nanosecond.

Aja- I will mail you and send a pic of the gorgeous young'n who has me smitten. We spent a nice drive in the Smokies yesterday with afternoon sun and it's sharp lateral light bouncing off the fresh greens of the meadows and trees of Cades Cove. Magic, it was...
Could not get him hooked on TvN, nor is he the concert hound type (shy in public), but I'm not giving up. Keep fingers crossed
for me!

I declare victory in programming my VCR and it's ready for Story Tellers tomorrow!
Technology's got nothin' on me,

cara mia

ole...they're making a sequel to Silence of the Lambs and it's being shot in Asheville??? Do you have any more info? I was hoping after the good doctor liberated himself that he & Clarice would cross paths again. Do you know if Jodie Foster or Sir Anthony will be reprising their roles? btw, I think Edd was talking about the Donna Summer who was advertising some sort of website below? Still no word on Raleigh ticket sale date. Virginia Beach is tentatively listed as next weekend. Can't wait to see most of the good folks again!

Fletch- LMAO! I can't believe I forgot about that, and it was "Two Dollars. Two weeks, twelve papers, I want my two dollars." A true classic.

Ole- I know I've see Tapeheads before but I'm drawing a blank, must have been one of "those" nights. I'll have to rent it.

W's best-Home at Last, that song does stranges things....

Happy Day to all!

peace, love and DAN

Razor

Razor--ooh, I didn't see that one. "Tapeheads" has remained one of my perennial faves. When they were in the bar, proving they weren't drunk?... And any movie that costars Sam & Dave is up there in my book.

aja--I couldn't pretend to have any insight into the way those people's minds work. You might want to go with the bird in the hand approach. Ask them for percentages for your likely admission next time if you defer. If they won't give them and they do offer a slot this time, take it. If they will give them, then you gotta play the numbers and decide for yourself how much of a gambler you are. And how high your stakes are.

rube--back atcha, girlfriend. Perfect compatibility is boring.

lucky--you tickle me.

dread--Richard Thompson is great. What a lyricist, not to mention his syncope-inducing guitar licks. He plays here fairly frequently. I'll check out the trib album on your advice.

chere--you go girl. There'll be a way for you to deal with the migraines. Glad you're bringing peace to a wounded place. Anybody who can't see what the big deal is over headaches should have a migraine. Or see "Pi." BTW, I LOVE "Only Have Eyes"--one of my favorite shower songs.

Edd--yes, forgot Donna Summer! One of my favorite '70's ladies! "She Works Hard For The Money" was kind of an anthem.

RS--I believe that I once confessed to you that I actually SAW him perform. But I didn't pay, my date did.

enough already--same to you! How many times do people have to drag out the old 1) you sniveling cowardly under-the-rock dweller, come out here and fight like a real bogus persona! 2) if you don't like it, scroll; and 3) St. Al in his wisdom decree-eth that there's (virtually) no restriction here on subject matter. Dr. Mu needs no one to cover his back, but he, who incidentally responded to you in an exceptionally controlled and gentlemanly way, is way smart & has passionate and well-argued positions. He also knows the music. I disagree with him a lot, but always attend to what he says. So either crawl back under or get hip.

BTW, "Rolling Stone" readers will notice that in the new one (Sarah Michelle Gellar on cover) my town is featured. There's a big article on Asheville as the new Freak Central and a local bete noire named Ukiah Morrison as its avatar. Now I love my town and all its diversity, but this is just a piece of poor journalism and sexist sensationalism to boot. (I hear feet stampeding to read it now.) I'm glad Ukiah got the publicity, but he's been used by a cheap hack, as has my town, which is irksome. (Now if we'd been used by someone really great, that might be different.) Just come visit, and I'll show you what a fine place we got. Again BTW, they're making the Hannibal Lecter sequel here.

Yes, happy holidays to all. It's time to break into our Passover theme, to the tune of "Louie Louie":

Pharoah, Pharoah,
Whoa baby, let my people go
(Na na na na na)

Happy Easter, Folks!

For those interested, Pine Knob is running the following promotion in todays Detroit Freep/News; Buy ANY seats to 3 shows, and receive free lawn seats to a limited list of three other shows. Artists off the free list include Ray Charles, Todd Rundgren w/ Leon Russell, Pat Benatar, Mike McDonald, ELO II/ Ian hunter/Sweet, Foreigner, Huey Lewis, and a host of lesser knowns. Not a bad deal. Now its time to bite the head off my chocolate bunny!

Happy Easter everybody. Let us not forget what this day is about. I'm off to church...

re: "Donna Summer"

Why do you think this is an appropriate place to advertise?

Razor - LOL....what about the mailboy all the way through? "Where's my five dollars!" (I think it's five....not sure of the amount now)

Fletch

PNC Bank Center in NJ announces acts for season - tickets go on sale next Sat:
http://www.bergen.com/region/pncsked21200004213.htm

An article on aging rockers:
http://www.nypost.com/04162000/entertainment/28508.htm

For those celebrating, have a Happy Easter!

Everyone should be so fortunate as to have a piping hot cup of Bengal Spice tea and a Florida sunrise on Easter morning.That would also include, of course Two vs Nature on the headphones so's as to not wake up my beau. I ran out to the car in the early dew morning hours before the sun shone her face and grabbed it out of the car's CD player. Plus, "the neighbours are listening". Somebody mentioned Show Biz Kids...

Innocent one, I am reneging, I may have to make an extra addition with that to my fav DAN songs list.

So outrageous- I was brought to tears by your e mail. I will e mail you "propa like" after I return from Hialeah tonight and e mail you back as to dignify your words with the respect they deserve.

All who really read and were feelin' me in my dark hour....Thank you from the depths of me for all the "mad love and karma". I slept without dreams last night, a very uncommon occurance being a JUJU preistess and all. So even greater thanks for the PEACE!!!

Another old old song I like is "I Only Have Eyes For You"- the version by the Flamingos.

Shbop Shbop
I'm off to bunnyhop.
Off to make a miracle happen.
Cruisin' with the DAN up LOUD,
Singing and toe tappin'.
A lil' mawnin' joy!......

Happy Easter
Earth
And just plain DAY to you!

A few REAL poetic parting words I fel like sharing.......

First a quote: "If we survive this century it will only be because you and I refuse to become Nazis."
-Joan Baez, Berkeley, 1973

"The current generation can scacely imagine the spiritual effervescence of that time; in motion was an impulse parallel to that fo the Renaissance. The sap of new life impetuously circulated. Everything sprouted, everything budded, everything burst out at the same time. Mindbending perfumes came forth from the flowers; the air intoxicated, people were mad with lyricism and art. it seemed as if they were about to rediscover the great lost secret, and that was true, they had rediscovered poetry."
-Theophile gautier, c. 1872

FLASH FORWARD............

Everyone buys their first Steely Dan Album.... Ahhh I can smell the fragrance wafting throught the air, can You? - chere

Miz Ducky--by the way, where ya from??

Miz ducky-- thank you so much~ that was so nice of you! You were the one who made me smile! :) that was really very nice!!! Thank you! What a conciderate person you are:) im very glad to be on here as well
have a good night
IO

Innocent One: dear, I am so glad you have joined us madfolk here on the Guest Book. You make me smile!

/Miz Ducky a.k.a. Mam'zelle Daphne Canard
just another crazed danfan, actually ...

***hello everyone***
Ok, there are SOOO many sides to this Elian case! Lets ALL move on. Hopefully it will be over and done with soon. It's very contriversal and it's very hard to pick a side because each side has some great arguments! Anyways, How is everyone! Lets talk about something happy and fun! :)
Steviedan-- Well i'm glad to know that you are paying attention! There are some really cool people and i'm glad that im in this little circle of people who LOVE steely dan as much as I do, which is hard! They just NEVER get old its the coolest thing!! Well anyway, happy easter to everyone! i will see ya'll tommorow!
IO

Josie.

Roy, you really need to slow down in life, just linger along the path, stop and smell the Chinese retaurant music. Particularly Chinese restaurant music versions of Roger Miller tunes like..."Twaylars por swell or went, wooms to wet pifty cents...

...tell you what. Fidel can just have my lawnmower !!! It sucks and was working very poorly today. Janet Reno can hide easter eggs an' whatevah...

Beautiful weekend here on earth for most of us. For sure, stuff worse than you can imagine in going on somewhere. Welcome to everybody posting here. Shout out to Chris (just Slime bro' you've been here longer than me I think). You and I.O. need to know that people do pay attention here. If it seems like we're not, it's usually because there is a thought momentum going. You may post a query and everyone is still working out the last one. This medium is also not as warm as a phone conversation or face-to-face, but one thing I am sure of in my short time here:

There are some really good-hearted, cool, intellegent people posting on this page, along with the most current 411 on the best band in the land.

All day long, with the lawnmower's (the good one) idle as a pedal point, I've been singing Negative Girl (to myself, as best as I can tell, maybe I should turn up the Eagles). My oldest daughter (14) returns from a NYC visit tomorrow, I sure have missed that child.

3 from the Dan? Crank up Show Biz Kids at any party and watch
the light-weights run for cover.D+W seem more like Masters of
Technology than back to basics types,so that line in Aja, "throw
out the hardware,lets do it right," has a peculiar poignancy,
coming from them.I Got the News: funky hot carnal. "yeah,you got
the muscle,I got the news." Knowledge is power? Who said that?

3 non-Dan masterpieces: From Van Morrison, the title cut from
Astral Weeks.25 years ago I couldn't stand it, guess I've made
some progress.It's poetic in a mystical kind of way,jazzy in a
soulful kind of way,it's life and death and rebirth all in one.
Towards the end he's singing,"I'm just a stranger in this world,
I've got a home on high,in another land, so far away, way up in
the heavens;" I get a better sense of what rapture is all about
from this song than I ever got from going to church.
From Neil Young,Crime in the City.Five short stories in one song,
tied together by the common themes of moral and social decay.
Probably Neil's jazziest tune,great sax,great percussion,perfect
vocal.
#3- The title track from Beat the Retreat,a tribute album of
Richard Thompson songs.It's a slice of Guitar Heaven with Martin
Carthy on acoustic,James Burton on electric, and David Lindley
on slide.It seemed like a love song at first but I gotta believe
that it's really a spiritual.June Tabor's vocal is wonderful but
some people have trouble making out the words,so here they are.
I'm beating my retreat,back home to you.(repeat)
I'm burning all my bridges(2 repeats)
I'm running back home to you

I'm trailing my colors, back home to you.(repeat)
This world is filled with sadness(2 repeats)
I'm running back home to you

I'll follow the drum,back home to you(repeat)
There was no sense in my leaving(2 repeats)
I'm running back home to you

Many of my more reverent moments occur when the stereo is on.

Chere: Best of Karma and luck and whatever else it takes on your Easter bunny mission. Please try to stay away from people (on both sides) who put causes and nationalities above children.

Doc Mu: I would have to nominate Walter's "Cousin Dupree" guitar solo as a definite keeper. My favorites, however, are on Katie Lied. The Bad Sneakers and Black Friday solos are so stylistically different and both so good, it's hard to believe he wasn't downright conceited , much less confident, about his lead guitar playing. -- The tempo and mood change during the Bad Sneakers instrumental break is unparralelled. It breaks my heart and fills me with joy every time.

I, RMoats@home.com, did indeed video tape the Joni Mitchell tribute; if anyone is interested in being shared with, contact me. You understand, of course, that I taped it exclusively for my own entertainment and with the expressed written consent of the Commisioner of Music, and on the condition that there would be no admission charged or wagering on the outcome.-- My favorite Joni line (actually there's way too many good ones to pick a favorite) is, "I love you some when I forget about me." More on this later.

Another great forgotten song from the 70's: Jess Colin Young's "Song for Juli".

I will not tell you people what was the first LP I ever purchased because I just don't want to hear the late great Roger Miller ridiculed.

DrMu: I forgot to suggest that the West of Hollywood guitar solo takes me back to "Rose Darling", another beauty.

Opera lovers (isn't that an oxymoron?): I actually was striving for humorous irony when I bad mouthed opera music while encouraging open mindedness. I retract and apologize. So how about if I insult that shit that they play in the background at Chinese restaurants? That wouldn't arouse the ire of any weird music fetitshists would it?

Happy Easter and Earth Day to you all, whether you celebrate or not,

RS

Those photos with the stormtroopers and the machineguns were terrifying. Welcome to Bill Clinton's Amerikka.

MC: The guitar lines on the title cut from Brothers in Arms are just gut wrenching, elegant, sad, and beautiful. The way Mark Knopfler hoooooolds those notes just right with that vibrato. It My mind drifted to my favorite Walter Becker solo which is on Bad Sneakers. I can understand why this a fav of Roy's. This is in a sense is an unusual Becker solo as he holds and squeezes those notes in a beautiful cry as opposed to the chopped, staccato bop style we usually hear - his solo and Skunk's Rikki solo may have some real guts to them. I hear a touch of this in the West of Hollywood solo which is a real highlight to my ear. The Snowbound solo really sweeps me away as well - then there's Home At Last, Junkie Girl, Black Friday...any other nominations for Walter's greatest hits??

Salivating for Mon night on Vh1!! My wife tells me there's a blurb in TV Guide

Chere: Peace and love to you...

Ruby, fezo et al.: I respectfully disagree with part of your view. Thank goodness blood was not shed - given Reno's history (Waco, Ruby Ridge): it was indeed fortunate. The principle I am arguing is that the federal government must never be allowed to attack or violate citizens and children who have not broken the law and/or allowed due process. The executive branch MUST not be allowed to make the law on the fly. That is the job of the legislative branch. exs. "any alien has the right to seek asylum" OR "custody cases will be heard in a state family court." The most recent court decision held up these laws. Moreover, when Janet Reno asked to have the boy turned over to the feds immediatelty, the court refused. When the executive brach usurps the power of both the legislative branch AND the courts and violates the right of the people then that is tyranny, and when done with force - facism, or with "plumbers" - Nixon. This is the principle on which the Declaration of Independence and the structure which embodies those principles - the Constitution - stand. I would have preferred to see the father and son re-united many months ago behind the scenes in Miami or a neutral site. There is only ONE explanation as to why the father waited months to attempt to reclaim his son or why he stayed in the Cuban Embassy and in Maryland when he arrived in the US instead of dashing to be with his son (as a father of two I know what my course of action would be - he was controlled by Castro and later manipulated by Clinton and Reno. As for Castro, we know who he is - his *daughter* in exile in Spain clearly articulated the purpose and structure of "family values" in Cuba. Little boys are property of the state; their milk is cut off at 7; they stay in Communist indoctrination camps from an early age. They are slaves - all sides should be heard in a court of law before we send a child back to slavery.

...for those who wish to *scroll* do, especially those anonymi who make no contribution of their own...

chere - i read your stories with interest, and compassion. it is inconceivable to me what you have been through, and what they are all going through now.

hoping for all the karma you can ever imagine, and more than you can believe is ever possible,
lh.

p.s., sorry for the off-dan posts, folks. she did say "karma".

Hello one and all,

Happy Earthster weekend!

Just a few things-

Fezo-Your "poor choice of words" may not be that poor. = )
And I agree, this should have been done a long time ago. It's like we're watching WHW (White House Wrestling) and they need to keep the story line going for just one more week...

Fletch,Ole-I'm a big John Cusak fan too. My fav-Better off dead, when he's driving mom's wagon and puts the dishwashing gloves and goggles on, then nails it in reverse! LMAO! Love the camaro in there too. "Do You realize what the street value of this stuff is?"

First cd-Royal Scam, followed shortly by Gold (Expanded edition) and then The Police,Zenyata Mondata.

Already have the VCR set for Monday night, just can't get enough of a good thing!!

Just a reminder for anyone planning on going to any of the Great Lakes Trifeca, sign up on the Danvention list so we can start planning for it!! Times a'wastin' only 62 more days!! (I know, I should get a life. It's just to Dan exciting!!!)

I'm way deep into nothing special..

Peace, love and DAN

Razor

I don't understand about the Cuban boy ( I'm not American). To think that politics is more important than family - you guys are sooo whacky and you don't even know it. I saw on CNN some "reporter" saying ' What message does this send to China? ' Fuck you all.

JW & tom: Is it okay if I watch you guys from the sand? I'll bring a refreshments!

tom: did you ever listen to 11TOW with headphones? It's especially nice on This Moody Bastard. The intro is killer.
And go easy. Ration yourself to one whack track per day.
I'm talking song here, dude.

aja: I like the long version of Crystal Blue. They always cut the horns on the radio.

sad songs: I think Walk Between The Raindrops is sad, though the music is bouncy. I start feeling a tinge of bittersweet when he sings, "in my dreams/ I can hear the sound of thunder..."

DF would be a good short story writer. I wonder if he's done any of that?

Oleander: you said we disagree on so many things - yes we do. But my deep respect and affection remains. I take it back, Janet Reno is not a wuss. I admire her.

rb

SO Outrageous- But of course it is "Me wise juju" workin' folks. My JuJu is infectious, like a cool Dan groove. Like when Tito Puente 'trabajar su ritmo" (working his rhythm). Like how Instant karma gonna "get you!". I am grooving to Jean Luc Ponty's Live at Chene Park, after listening to Pretzel Logic, Greatest Hits,and Aja. ALl in a row. Had my percussion instuments going too. "Shakin' a Lil' Sumptin!" Had to. Two Vs Nature was in my car with my beau. I do enjoy blaring the new Cd out in the open so everyone can catch on and go buy it! I cannot tell you how many people I have turned it onto. Love that!!!! Yeah!!! I had to soothe this ugliness and bad karma of the day away. Feeling much better now. How y'all feeling out there?!!!!!! "Can I get a test i mo'ny? Can I get a witness?! Can I get an Amen!!!?"

Peace and blessings DANFANS and those in the making.
All Hail....
Chere

aja, we always seem to think alike! i named crystal blue persuasion a few days ago on the gb. we've either got a dionne warwick thing going on or cheres' "me-wise-juju" is kicking in.

~is it just me or does 'brooklyn' just scream for a world-weary donald fagen vocal track?

happy easter,
steven

Just passing through, great site....I'll be back.

Best wishes,
Donna
http://www.digital-price.com/index.html

only a second to post here...will get more in detail tomorrow.

saddest song EVER for me is Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms

first album I purchased myself was Doobie Brothers - Captain and Me....this doesn't count the previous 6 years or so of ripping off my older brother and sister's albums and 45's.

Edd....very nice pics of the birds/squirrels! you inspire me to take some more of my own and post them soon I hope!

back tomorrow to catch up on everything....Happy Easter to all who celebrate it!

Leave it to Dr. Mu to move away from Steely Dan and start talking about current events. (he never fails) Listen, I've had enough of this Elian bull-shit already! I'll turn on CNN if I want to hear about this crap. I'm sick of it!

Chris--Thank you! So far i've been a little excepted. I think that everyone has there own circle already but that dosen't mean that they dont have room for me! But thanks so much for taking time to talk to me! thats really sweet! Hope to be talking to you more in the future and thanks again!
Danny G- thank you, thank you! i am a very happy person! Why should we be sad. If you are sad, you should listen to SD that always makes me feel better!! but i like your sarcasium! Just like me...haha!! Ok then well i hope to be talking to you later on!
*** Everyone ***
You guys all rule! I hope to talk to EACH AND EVERY one of you!!
IO

...i'm hanging on to every word...

Okay, I am not going to go on and on, ( I will try not to) but there I was having my morning ritual/ which includes a piping hot cup of tea, a sunrise, and meditation, and I get a phone call from my mother in law to be about Elian. I am not a big TV person- I read alot, but I flipped it on and was blown away. I personally and my beau have thought from the very begining, that he should have been returned to Cuba immediately. With his father. I am torn though, my beaus mother and sister are of the many passionate Cubans out "peacefully" demonstrating. It is a big mess. A big mess I must drive into tommorow bearing my miniscule easter surprises. You see folks, Some of you already know this, I am a poor juju girl. I have been ill for a couple of years with these disabling migraines that literaly put me down for days at a time. Only just recently after many many tests the Nuero (a saviour in my mind) has discovered I have an artery missing in the side of my neck. Many people are born this way, but it is usually in the leg or something like that. It is VERY painful!!!! The lovely (NOT) state health assisitance does not cover any "new " types of proceedures, like that of a nerve block which I am immediatly investigating as soon as my case comes through and I have some money. They cover nothing for personal comfort except drugs narcotic which I am opposed to, being the granola girl I am who DOES shave under her arms. I am still on the "filed for disability" group of many. Thank GOD for an attorney at this point, because the paper trail is long. And I mean Long and repetetive. I am still wondering where I am going to get my tix money for the SD show here or Tampa wherever I end up. We do "okay" and are Just barely making it. I do tarot readings, healing workshops, scrub apartments, tutor English, all this as my health and psuedo employers will permitt. My episodes off pain and puke are real unpredictable. My beau works six days a week, every week, and has missed three days of work in the last five years. I had to work alot to get those Easter treasures put together, sort of a trade off with dinner and a spiritual cleansing on someones new house for chocolate eggs for two little angels who prayed for litttle Elian every night. My nephew attended the same school as he did. There are some members of my "sprirtual Santeria family" who live close to the Gonzalaz home. What a fucking nightmare. I am all about peace and Love and the Beatles, and you are right Kent State it was not, but I have heard from some of my spiritual family members that say it has been pretty brutal down there. Alot of ego tripping going on both with the police and with "the neighbourhood gangstas". What a big mess. I only hope Elian is still elastic enough at his age to recover both physically and in his soul. I hear they are happy en CUBA.
So outrageous- I do SOOOOOOOOO appreciate your offer of help moneywise. It reiterates the message I represent in my bubble of light as float through everyday life in all I do, that there ARE good people out there. Sometimes, when I am cruising down I95 in my car I just float out the Peace sign really high and out the window for all to see just to remind folks it still exists. I am a proud chick though. I can't take your money. I mean , I don't think I really know how to accept money like that. I never have. I have been a surviour of "very nasty bad things" when I was little and come out the other side kind and gentle, but I have always just "made it" on my own. So thank you so very much for the offer. I hope that does not sound wierd to everyone, but I am a chick who left home a long time ago at the tender age of thirteen because I was sick and tired of taking care of everyone (my mom and lil' sis) and being locked in a closet and poked with a curtain rod like a tortured animal, bones broken, face painted in dark colours, by a man (my father) who came back "really different angry and alcoholic" after NAM. Music was the thing that helped me to heal myself and be strong. I cannot believe I just posted this whole thing. But we are all family here. I guess this violent way they went about the midnight raid stirred up some murkey waters in my own soul and upset me a bit. Now I must go drive in it tomorrow. Me , la Gringa (the white girl for those of you that do not know spanish) playing Peter Cottontail. Seems Easter is a bit jaded, from what I understand my neice has been hysterical since all of this began this morning, she was the first to see the special new bulletin over her Sat morning Froot Loops and cartoons. She ran into nanny's room and woke her up. I feel kinda numb and sad.

Somebody send me an instant karma.

I am going to sign of for now and try to conjure up some activities to raise some money so I can get tix.

Fidel is a dick. Cuba is much like Russia WAS.
Miami is in an uproar and hopefully the healiing has already begun.
If you haven't any instant karma's to spare, pray that my trip driving down in it tomorrow is safe on the way down and back. I'm a little freaked out. I WILL NOT sell these kids out though.
NO WAY JOSE!!!!!!!

Thanks for listening. Much respect to you all.

-Chere

oh please, the government was only doing what it should have done months ago (and the 11th Circuit gave them a big nudge in that direction in their opinion last week). under all tenets of immigration law, the poor lad belonged with his Dad, and Reno finally got the balls (poor choice of words) to enforce the law.

the complicating factor in the situation is that Elian's father comes from Cuba so that makes him a de facto Communist in the eyes of many. Thus, the otherwise law and order Republican party suddenly adopts a different face in order to appease the big buck Batista want to bes.

Sorry Mu, but if this poor kid had not been appropriated as a pawn in the miami community's agenda in the first place, it would have never come to this. It would never had needed to come to this.

I'm horrified at the picture too, and at what it must have done to the kid. But the fact is he was already doomed to be a long-term victim of a different, more cynical sort of terrorism, with those original terrorists counting on the fact that their opponents would have more concern for the kid's psychological well-being than they did. I'm glad they didn't get away with such a crass (not to mention selfish) political strategy.

Of course all of this is predicated on my opinion that the kid should have been returned to Cuba immediately, in the first place. An opinion I assume you disagree with.

Aja ~ That particular ditty is indelibly etched in my subconscious ~ in fact, I can remember buying "Crimson & Clover" (the album that "Crystal Blue Persuasion" was on) in '69, and feeling guilty at age 14 for buying such a "bubblegummy" record, but taking it home and loving it just the same...One particular aspect of their music that always tugged at my musical heartstrings back then was their liberal use of Leslie (Hammond organ) speakers (on vox & guitars) and early phase-shifting/flange effects (back then accomplished primarily by out-of-phase microphone placement) ~ which I thought was "totally bitchen'"! Just listen to the vox on "Crimson...", and you'll know exactly what I mean...particlarly under the spell of certain psychedelic elixers! It was on Roulette Records ~ I remember they had a cool-looking label!

...and yes, I plan to come down and spend the day (Saturday) in SD with you guys, and attempt to teach WormTom how to surf. Count me in, and send me information as it arises to put on the SoCali Hooterie site...

we interrupt the preEnRORGEment plans...

At 5 am EDT this country became a *Fascist State*. In a scene that topped a bad Miami Vice episode or the worst Stephen King paranoia, a group of thugs happening to represent our government against the suggestion of a recent court decision burst into a Miami household screaming "Give me the f**ing kid..We'll shoot!! we'll shoot!!"

As you can tell from the pic, Reno's plan was to present peace officers who would traumatize the child the least:

http://news.excite.com/news/ap/000422/11/news-cuban-boy

Kent State
Waco
Miami
Tyranny ON the Disallowed!!!!

I'm disgusted, embarrased, and outraged - there must be a job, even janitorial, at the Karolinska Institutet, Clas...

Back to your regular programming...

Howdy all. Geez, I haven't posted since Wednesday! That's some kind of a record for me in terms of GB silence, eh?

But while I've been too busy to post, I've still been enjoying the retro-music threads. I haven't had much more to add beyond what I've already said anyway ... except to pitch in that I'm yet another DanHead who also appreciates opera. Wagner--I've seen at least one each of Das Rhinegold and Die Valkure (sp?), plus two-three different productions of Gotterdamerung, and the massive thing's amazing--what they did before they had Lucas and ILM to max out the silver screen, flying horses and tumbling castles and all. I also have a fondness for the romantic/schmaltzy French and Italian operas. *Love* Tosca--what a wonderfully EEEEEEEEvil bad guy, what fabulous histrionics when Tosca works herself up to giving him his just desserts!

(And can I then resist at this juncture reminding folks of Donald's column from Premiere, thoughtfully archived on the ODP, concerning the use of music from the opera Lakme in the soundtrack of various movies? Of course I can't! Yowie!)

So why have I been too busy to post? Well, a little of it has been due to riding herd on the logistics of our Magic Bus to the Gorge (we may be full at this point, folks, but if you're still interested in a berth on that bus, contact me anyway at mizducky@drizzle.com). But mainly I've been running around to various job-related interviews and negotiations ... and it looks like, very shortly, I shall be fully assimilated into a certain Evil Empire on the outskirts of Redmond, WA. Certainly an interesting time to sign up with that outfit. But at least I'll be starting the stock option program with an advantageous price!

Somewhat more seriously, y'all have no idea what a relief this is to me, after about five years of living kinda-semi-hand-to-mouth. I'm actually going to be able to acquire a working automobile again! (Instead of the non-functioning 1983 Mitsubishi Cordia serenely gathering rust in my parking space.)

And I can think of no better way to celebrate my new aquiescence to Corporate America than to fry a bunch of synapses with y'all at the upcoming conflagration at the Gorge. Yes, the Mam'zelle shall be in full effect that weekend, and 'twill be an awesome sight to behold.

/Mam'zelle Daphne Canard
chortling her way across the sky

Hey Puker, my only introduction to Kenny Burrell was Stevie Ray Vaughan's cover of Chitlins Con Carne. The song kills me every time. What CD would you recommend of his for a starter? Kenny Burrell's, that is. Got Stevie Ray down pat.

Speaking of great, bluesy/jazzy guitar, we have a STELLAR jazz station here in San Diego, and I heard something called "Color of Love" by Ronnie Earl and the Broadcasters. The DJ said the other tracks on the CD are even better-bluesy guitar mixed with Latin rhythms. Haven't been to Tower yet, but has anybody heard these guys?

oleander-what do you think of my strategy? Since there are a limited number of spaces this late in the year, don't you think my chances would be better to defer to next year (when they have an entire class to fill) and do early decision?

Forgot one golden oldie: "Crystal Blue Persuasion" by Tommy James and the Shondells (are you taking notes, JWMalibu?)

cara mia-I think you and I are in the same boat. Tom here has been coaching me, and quite masterfully, I might add. e-mail me and I'll pass along what's worked so far!

Aja

Welcome I.O.. May you fare better than I did, being ignored, or being told you should burn in hell. My second post stated that this place isn't very open to newcomers, and I was right. However, keep butting in, and one of these days you'll be included.

Fav Steely Dan...
-Sign in Stranger
-Janie Runaway
-Haitian Divorce
oh wait, one more
-West Of Hollywood
live picks:
-Sign in Stranger
-Bodhisattva
-Gaslighting Abbie

Happy Easter everybody. May the LORD fill your hearts with joy and happiness.

In addition to the new home screen for those who haven't already seen it, there's a video clip link for the "Storytellers", and a review or two that haven't been there all that long.

Happy Earth Day!

I went to the SD site and yes, the collage looks cool, but I didn't see or read any new information. Did I miss something?

Lots of new stuff at the official site!

SDWebDrone--you have once again outdone yourself, as only you can . . .

oleander - Remember John Cusack from those great teen movies of the 80's?.......lol
I have a copy of 'The Sure Thing' on video I bought when a local vid store closed down. Some of those John Hughes flicks are really entertaining.....lol. Like 'The Breakfast Club', and '16 Candles'

Fletch

hmmmm....

Wow, been on vacation for a week. Just got back. So ready to start bubblin' over thinkin' about the upcoming Dan shows. Well, well, well (deep subject, I know...) Upon returning home, found out that my other favorite band will be playing in California some extra dates in July ~ 7,8,9. Steve Kimock Band, if ya care. Great American Music Hall, SF...That's right after the High Sierra Music Festival the weekend before which promises to be indescribably wonderful!!! Go to hsmusic.com if you ar interesestedweraetadfafjak;l faldfjiurut[ur2-985b37

hmmmm....

Wow, been on vacation for a week. Just got back. So ready to start bubblin' over thinkin' about the upcoming Dan shows. Well, well, well (deep subject, I know...) Upon returning home, found out that my other favorite band will be playing in California some extra dates in July ~ 7,8,9. Steve Kimock Band, if ya care. Great American Music Hall, SF...That's right after the High Sierra Music Festival the weekend before which promises to be indescribably wonderful!!! Go to hsmusic.com if you ar interesestedweraetadfafjak;l faldfjiurut[ur2-985b37

Ole: Just caught your post (this last one took me off and on about 19 hours to complete, I KNOW I write toooo much). Yeah that's all good. I've been paranoid about the Raleigh show. I am kinda on the inside with "The Ticket Ones" and nobody knows nothin' as far as I can tell about on-sale date. It's getting weird (Drone if you are monitoring toss me a friggin' bone here) and I SURE HOPE IT AIN'T GOIN' PHOENIX WAY. Traditionally there are no big on-sales on Easter Weekend so maybe next. I'll keep you posted and I'll meet your people. They can meet my people.

steviedanpeaceouwt...

Birdland West: Man, if you are still out there I just want to say that I have BEEN you and things will change. I too have been guilty of jazz snobbery or in music school, dividing music into "legit" or "non-". Somewhere along the way, most really good musicians or listeners I know, come to realize the legitimacy of even people drumming with their hands on the surface of a river. Not to say there isn't bogus music out there, obviously there is, but true music that conveys life comes from everywhere. I am very tight with our local jazz critic. This man has been "if it don't swing it ain't shit" for 50 years. Recently this man just suddenly opened up to blues, we started talking about other forms & then the heavens opened and my boy purchased the first "POP/ROCK" form of music of his ENTIRE LIFE.....He bought 2VN !!!! He heard it in my store and said, "Is this the new Steely Dan?". I nodded, he got it. By the way man, Kenny Burrell is kinda lightweight. You shoulda said Wes.

Chere: I'm still here, really enjoyed reading your posts. You keep coming back with more and more great music, I can see your soul is deep. I am not online very much, mainly really late at night (old habit from full-time musician days). I will e-mail ya propa soon. Tell us more about Santeria, sounds cool. I am completely non-religious so completely non-judgemental. The world's babies need an angel like you bring them Easter.

Hey, about opera, don't knock it. I've been YOU too, that is until I actually was forced to study it. WAGNER does RULE. I love it all, as I'm typing this I am ROCKIN' with some recent Deep Purple with Steve Morse. They've never sounded better. Just before that I was listening to some....oh shit Kenny Burrell with John Coltrane....NOT LIGHTWEIGHT I LIED PSYCH!!!

Charley Freak had but one Easter egg to call his own, Chocolate Bunny precious scone. Happy Easter to everyone. I just got a big egg in my basket, I thought I had a gig but instead I've got TWO WHOLE DAYS OFF. First ones in about FIVE WEEKS. I love playing and $ but...

~though it was rather difficult narrowing down the sd oeuvre to three favorites; i have no such trouble naming my "ONE" absolutely indispensable sd tune:

BLACK COW! the o-so-slow bump-and-grind-syncopation, the poignanytly sarcastic lyric, the unforgettable refrain,that funked-up brass chart, the way-over-the-top titillating 'vamp' and last but certainly not least, mista scott's 'sooooo outrageous' soul-crying tenor.

it still gets me every single time. it has for nigh-on a quarter century now.

a safe & happy holiday
steven

~chere-if you need any help ($-wise for your young niece and nephew, please drop me a line; Sooutrageous@cs.com & i'll wire alittle something your way)

jOker, lisa, MC--there with a BULLET! E me, you all, and let's get it together. I'm stoked to make this an unforgettable DanFest.

steviedan--thanx for your gentlemanly response. Let's get a total Raleigh thing together. I got some people you gotta meet.

RS--que pasa, vato? You are my once and future pachuco indeed.

aja--mazel tov! perhaps the best possible outcome, eh?

Hank--your wish, my man, is my command. Now where were you where you could get CKLW?

Edd--Well, who the hell did you go to school with then? Einstein, Curie, Watson, and Crick?

Chere--warm ones to you. Keep in touch and keep the juju flowing.

Sheez, this soundtrack of the past thing--I must have been in some parallel universe in the '70's, because I can't recognize 90% of what you all have listed. Though I'll bet that if you tied me to a chair and made me listen, I'd know a lot of them. I was listening to Mahavishnu, EWF, Fela Kuti, Ruben Blades, McCoy Tyner, Hilton Ruiz, Coltrane, Cedar Walton, Dylan, Sun Ra, Rahsaan, Betty Carter, Aretha, Joni Mitchell, the Red Star Singers, Bonnie Raitt, Miles Davis, Willie Colon, Tower of Power, Talking Heads, Elvis Costello, Weather Report, Flora & Airto, Mose Allison, and of course our raison d'etre.... Well, I guess there was a fair amount of overlap there. So out--there was one Sergio Mendez I just love, "Primal Roots," but my vinyl is worn out. Do you know if it's on cd?

Saddest song? That's easy. The saddest song EVER is "The Inflated Tear" by Rahsaan. Close runners-up: "She's Not There," Zombies, and "Just My Imagination," Temps. I think those 2 songs (that & "Tell Her No") by the Zombies influenced me more than most anything except Dylan & the Beatles in the '60's. I saw the (reunion) Temps do "Just My" in Flint, Mi. Every woman in the crowd joined in on the chorus, and it was like being in heaven, I think, or I hope, anyway.

First lp--"Disraeli Gears." Though when I was a kid, I begged my mom for this series called "Provocative Percussion" you could only buy in the grocery store. You know, "Hernando's Hideaway" etc. Shades of future passed, I guess.

If you haven't seen "High Fidelity," forgive Nick Hornby his "New Yorker" review and go INSTANTLY. Great, great movie. "Pretzel Logic" (lp) is indeed featured in one scene. And it's not just great because I am nuts about John Cusack, but--great music, cast, story, identification.... And now I know that the ONLY POSSIBLE casting for the Fagen/ Becker movie is Cusack as Fagen and Tim Robbins as Becker. They and only they can really do the long relationship, and they're smart, and quick, and funny, and for me it would just be an intolerable one-two fan punch.

God bless you, chere. a moving story and i wish you peace and good will in every way.

She Took a Little With Sugar

West of Hollywood

this moody bastard,
lh.

Hello to all. Hope this Good Friday IS good and has been in EVERY way. I am off to Hialeah Gardens to be with my beaus family for Easter Sunday and be Peter Cottontail for a morning. I've a very poor neice and nephew who live in a building where murders and terible things take place that young eyes of 7 and 8 should not bear witness to. I worked a little JuJu and manage to raise a little money to fill them Easter buckets. Perish the thought they should not have Easter because they have no money. Times are hard. Then we shall all "throw down" on some great Cuban food. Have coffe that gives you a buzz all day and the as all Cuban traditional holidays go, all the furniture gets moved out of the way, everyone dances the merengue, salsa, mambo, etc. it is really great fun. They will cook, everyone donates monies for this, a great pig wrapped in banana leaves and cooked under ground and with hot stones. I am really looking forward to it. How bout that ! ? Most importantly two little angels will have Easter "propa Like". Okay, everybody Gel.

Stevie Dan- Where are you? Te strano. E mail me sometime.

Cara Mia- I actually , if you e mail me personaly ,and are serious about this "person" you are interested in, after you e mail me with a bit more information and your zodiac etc, I can custom design a spell, if you will, that willl surely gain your beloved's attentions and affections, the rest is up to you. My juju is only for the catalyst. Better karma all the way around that way. email me and I will do it for you , or rather give you the spell instructions.My services run "gratis' for tribe members in this beautiful "Dan Family."

Innocent one- My fave Dans and this was soooo hard, but if I had to pick three they are: Dr. Wu
Home At Last
Bad Sneakers

Sad song? "Old and Wise" by the Allan Parsons Project
OR: "Strange Fruit" by Miss Billie Holiday

Another hot steaming whew! stank and beautiful fever vision dream of this member of the tribe?...... is to be a back up sista singer for the Dan. Since a child, when I would play Aja and Pretzel Logic over and over and sing along while babysitting my cousins age 11. Besides I have the belly for it complete with a beautiful belly ring and a amythyst heart charm. (from all that belly dancig in the desert I had to do solo because nobody wanted to join me when I posted it. it was great fun out there, midnight..... at the oasis........

Okay everyone sit real still.....

Stiller than that......

Take a deep breath in and out and repeat slowly.... slower......

Okay open up your hearts.......

You just got a huge Easter/JuJu "Instant Karma" from me.
A great man once said "Instant Karma's Gonna Get You".......

Much love respect and blessings to my Dan Family. - Always Chere

Nice pseudo-apology Puker and as far as I'm concerned, accepted.

Self importance is not appreciated here (see Ballah).
Nothing is more subjective than "Art" and I include all music, painting/drawing of all sorts and Dance in that definition. We all have valid opinions and a right to share them including you, but don't get on your high horse and slam "Billy, Don't be a Hero" or the like just because you didn't like it. For all of us, music is the sound track to our lives and one man's/woman's pleasure is another persons pain.
Very sorry you don't get the Dan this time around, so chill out with the CD and be a contructive contributor to this very pleasureable GuestBook. Nice to have you aboard. Peace, G.E.

thanx for the feedback folks......I guess I just get sick of the nostalgia....in the '70s'...everyone was nostalgic for the '50's...in the late '80's everyone was yearning for Sgt. Pepper...why don't we try to look forward.....
it's quite possible Steely Dan may be around with a few new albums in the years ahead....while I do think the new cd is exceptional....I hope the boys keep experimenting, bring in some new instruments...some new grooves...although I must admit they always seem to find awesome new guitarists (Herington is just flat out incredible....)....all of the great pop of the last 40 odd years is great to have around and play once in awhile...but i think most of us would like to hear something different.........
...also i live in a country where there will be no Steely Dan concerts this year....so pardon my angst!!!
....yes people into jazz do get elitist sometimes......but give me Kenny Burrell over anything '70's anyday....('Dan excepted of course)

You people want sad songs????

Try Elvis Costello's "Juliet Letters" or Lou Reed's "Magic and Loss."
That'll get the water running every time....

katylied

faves:

"Deacon Blues"
"Your Gold Teeth II"
"Second Arrangement"

Try,
- GASLIGHTING ABBIE
DO IT AGAIN
REELIN' IN THE YEARS
- WHAT A SHAME ABOUT ME
BODHISATVA
YOU GOLD TEETH
ALMOST GOTHIC
MONKEY IN YOUR SOUL
ANY MAJOR DUDE WILL TELL YOU
-JACK OF SPEED
GIRLFRIEND
SPRINGTIME

INTERMISSION

COUSIN DUPREE
BAD SNEAKERS
BLACK FRIDAY
NEGATIVE GIRL
CAVES OF ALTAMIRA
KID CHARLEMAGNE
WEST OF HOLLYWOOD
DEACON BLUES
I GOT THE NEWS
TIME OUT OF MIND
BABYLON SISTERS
JANIE RUNAWAY

ENCORES
SONG FOR MY FATHER
TWO AGAINST NATURE

... and the record for most exclamation points used in a single post goes to ... the innocent one with 41! Not that I counted. OK, so I counted, so sue me.

Welcome, I.O., your enthusiasm is infectious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't possibly pick only three, but to try:
"Glamour Profession"
"Babylon Sisters"
"The Nightfly"

Very close runners up:

"My Rival"
"Florida Room"

Did they play WOH?

hey every one! Wow this is so cool! I leave for 1 night and there are like 50 new messages! Wow. I'm getting so stoked for June. i can't wait any longer! I also can't wait till monday! Vh1!!! yeah! Thats the only time that i'm ever going to say that j/k! But thank you to all of you who responded! I know it was really hard! i would have to do 3 songs from each CD too because it's just to hard to narrow it down to 3! I love the new album though. Has anyone else noticed that the sound quality on the album is EXCELLENT?! Oh my gosh its such great sound quality! Well anyways like I said thank you all for making me feel very welcome! I'm very glad to be talking to you all. i'm a little obsessed though!! i couldn't wait to get home so i could see what everyone had said! well i'm very excited to keep talking to you all! :)
You all RULE!!!!!!!!!
As does the every so great Steely Dan
Bow down!!!!!

Daddy G- Picking three songs off AJA is almost as impossible as trying to pick one. Deacon is a high-up favorite of mine but if it came down to it, I'd stay with my picks. Home at last is just awesome, so much of the story is told without lyrics. Josie Is truly the Raw Flame, it just smokes, plus there is a personal anecdote that involves that song, I have no choice anymore it MUST be included. Ilove the arrangements in I've got the news, and the lyrics just bite ya. Bad Sneakers, that ditch out in the valley is being dug just for me. It's no that I don't like Deacon, I love it, sing along everytime I hear it, but like you said to each his own. That's what makes us.

Squonk-no, never heard Goodbye Jumbo. If it's any thing like Private Revolution I'm sure it's great. Maybe we could swap tapes?

Soilant one-(nothing personal, but doesn't that bring to mind an image of, say, a depends commerical. really i mean no harm by that, just struck me as funny)
You really need to give 11 T's o' W a couple of "background" listens before really diving in. Took me 5 or 6 times before I realized that Walt can sing. There's a lot of reflectiveness when he croons, but it creeps up out of the topsoil instead of smackin' you on the nose.
If I can find the time to ponder, I shall seek out some of the one word's of which you speak. Filled with doubt about matching wits with the worm though. Enjoy the beach!

AJA- I've found the old "desk overflowing with paperwork ploy" works well, too. However, it doesn't last forever.:(

Got a sad one-Sad Eyes-Robert John(?)-'79 I think. Schmaltzy but it does make me blue.

Peace, love and DAN

Razor

Innocent One;
As of right this minute, 3 faves are;

"Any Major Dude"
"Dr. Wu"
"Home at Last"

Subject to change without notice. Now get off my back!

Just caught an advance of the Storytellers! yous folks gotta check it out on Monday. Band sounds great. better camera shots and look than PBS. Hoops. dan guru's brother. tony. props. Q&A amusing enough. Tiny tops and tight capris.

Only Cuz and wadda fron the new CD.

jk

hey gang

off to enjoy the Redneck Riviera (Gulf SHores Alabama beaches)
I was refused my son for my weekend, but legal ram if a kay shuns will be emminent. When things suck recall that others are having it much worse and there is much to be grateful for

as for the beach
will be hitting some tides but not Crimson ones

Happy Easter

today is good friday, but it wasn't that "good" to a carpenter friend of mine who died on this day 1967 years ago

He was more than halfway crucified
but is on the other side of no tommorrow
and holds my tommorrows firmly in His loving nail torn hands

God Bless

If you're wondering how I manage to stay employed, I've discovered that the secret is to have your desk covered in paper and everyone assumes you're busy beyond belief!

Daddy G-thanks for the good words. I've come to the same conclusion myself-I really don't feel ready to leave yet, like there's some reason I need to be here a little longer. I'm actually relieved to defer admission! You're right, I'm going to get way deep into nothing special and live every day like it's Mardi Gras! Great observation on Gaslighting Abbie-I'm going to take a closer look at that song.

cara mia-so outrageous is in the eye of the intender! My idea of lookin' so outrageous wouldn't raise any eyebrows, but that's the assessment of those who know my usual dressed-down self say when I finally put it together. It's all about fun, anyway. Do I detect you're chasing a boy-toy? Spring abounds, I've got a sweet one, too!

Aja

Well, I got my copy of the PBS Special and must agree with earlier comments about the poor shots, short crops and bad direction. And I hope the midriff section clocks the camera man who was more interested in close ups of their shapely selves than getting tasty footage.
But I must also applaud the sense of reflection by the band and the fans and the street.
The vid seems to get going and 'together' about half way through, and while the video as a whole won't make anyone's best list - there are much worse $20 spends.

The camera loves Victoria Cave - if I were a camera, I would, too - and the few motion still shots of Cornelius seem to show me a depth of history and soul in his face. Would love to sit down and chat for a few days about music with him.

Fagen seems more relaxed as the running time jogs.

For those not at the shows are who don't have the vid yet, call 800-336-1917 ext.200 - there is some rare 'interview' footage that's priceless.

camera ygk

HUGE FAN - what I meant to say was

Dr Wu (sometimes confuse it with the album title,
must be the concussion acting up again)
Pretzel Logic (that other album title)
Aja

BIg Noise New York - yes Don and Jennifer Warnes pulling some great Joni-esque phrasings. We play that one at the high end audio shop that I moonlight at, never fails to turn heads.

Daddie G - yes single words mean alot and I agree on
Abbey's jean I us.

two examples of one word turns in HATWW

"see" and "inside"

Lay down your Jackson and you will see
The sweetness you've been cryin' for

"see" - ah it's not a house of prostitiution after all
but a strip joint where the ladies perform to men behind dark mirrored glass. He isn't experiencing the warm body physically but only with his eyes. "See" hits home the intimacy is only visual, huge difference. So that urging is not fullfilled physically

the man raps with his cane to let the women know there is an attendant in one of the booths and they need to get up and start "performing" again

part two "inside"

In the night you hide from the mad man
you're longing to be
but it all comes out on the inside eventually

they could have said "comes out on the outside"
but the "inside" is such a twist
the man is struggling with his loneliness
he is aged (the cane) and wants the stimulation of young women
it has been a visual not a physical encounter
but his insides ache from his unfullfilled desires
and he struggles with not having a women
and all the sweetness that entails

but to see it in front of you
may partially gratify but really sends him to terror on the "inside" and he knows he really can't handle the women physically anyway, so the mind and the body not at one and the visual the partial fullfillment

ponder

any other key one word turn of events in dan songs??

Tom

cara mia:

Thanks for the nod. That long weekend is coming up fast, and it sounds like you're gettin' busy. There's just too much to do.

That reminds me (and forgive me if this was posted by someone else) ... of another classic lyrical twist, when the boys say, "That black mini looks just like the one she's been missing, FEELS good on you."

Anybody else would have said "LOOKS" good on you. That one tweak makes all the difference in the line, IMHO. Gaslighting Abbie continues to impress with each listen. Check out the work itself. A mix of elegance and function.

That's right.

Wormboy- You have "Dr. Wu" and "Katy "Lied as two out of three of your fav SD songs. What song is "Katy Lied"?

Ed B. You're about two months to late on those L.A. shows.

My Fav SD/Fagen songs:

"Bad Sneakers"
"Time Out Of Mind"
"Big Noise New York"

HF

J Dub. - ha ha ha

11 track so wack so - well I must admit I heard it once and passed quickly then finally found a cut out of it a few months ago (right now I have about 40 new discs and have been to busy to do anything but a precursory listen) i have got to find ways to be home more often. Will endulge

As for the drum machines, it was the too steady to be real compressed and perfectly timed sound that didn't quite fit my ears till the expla was given. I have since fell totally in incestuous love with the new one and we are not coming out for quite some time. Moans of eck sta cee emmulate from the wormian burrow.

Aja - a quick reflecto on sad songs is okay
makes ya feel fortunate for what you really do have

lets find the school address and petition on your part for the grad school deal

as for your southern cal longings, I hve had those for my former local the mountians of Colorado. The best song on the longings for LA is Joni's COurt and Spark

"his eyes were the color of the sand and the sea
and the more he talk you know the more he reached me
but I couldn't let go of LA,
city of the fallen angels"

the way that track slows down and Joni's vocal phrasings and the overwelming mood of remorse and love lost is awe in spire ring.

Razorboy - thanks for the com pla meant!
I have always enjoyed your com men tarrys as well

Daddy G - love Deacon, need to find the single release with Deacon and AJa back to back for that Wurlitzer that I will one day own and restore. Look out e-bay

who makes me feel like painting again
darling it's you, Janie Runaway

Razor - did you hear Goodbye Jumbo from World Party? Amazing record, especially if you like Beatlesque/Byrdsy style melodies.

Daddy G, I did not see your plea before posting.
Must be my clairvoyance again.

cara mia

Hi,
Did I miss something or did the Universal Amp in LA sellout already or did it ever go onsale?

Expiring minds gotta know...I think..

You guys get back to work!

Ya' think this is some kind of holiday or something? lol

Best of Dan and crying at the same time tunes:

Deacon Blues
Caves of Altamira (I think I like you Soout.)
On the Dunes

Best tune of all time on the planet for me:
Hejira (so sue me if I play it too long)

Hi'ya StevieDan and thanks!
Hi'ya Aja, be as outrageous as you want, I'll applaud you.
Hi'ya Worm, I'll let you know how the boy-toy behaves.
Hi'ya Stranger, looking forward to tail-gaiting with you all.
Hi'ya Chere, got any of that magic-love-dust-potion #9 for me?
'Cause:
"There's a gypsy down on Bleeker Street
I went into see her as a kind of joke
She lit a candle for my love luck
And eighteen bucks went up in smoke!..." (JM 1976)

Life is good chasing dust bunnies,
cara mia

Altamira:

I'll be at the Merriweather show in Columbia, MD. If can point me to a decent seating chart for that venue (not the lame one from their site), I would be most grateful. Got "orchestra" seats, but damn if I can figure out what the things are.) OK to e-mail me.

JW/Razor Boy:

Three songs from Aja and no Deacon Blues? Sup widdat? I know, I know, to each his own. But still ... no Deke? Come on, guys. :(

Aja:

As Detective Sipowicz used to say, "I'll keep a good thought for you." These things have a way of working out the way they're supposed to. Enjoy being way deep into nothing special for a little while longer ... in the meantime, I think I'll order the deluxe package on the Blazer with the six-speaker CD player, the plush seats, the DVD and the little fridge. It should be nice inside. Now off to Travelocity.com to check on that flight to Madrid ... oh oh. Only two seats available.

Worm-I so look forword to your posts. The most creative names and addresses IMO. I laugh every time.

Three from each-

CBAT-
1)Only a fool would say that
2)Turn that heartbeat over again
3)Midnite cruiser

CTE-
1)King of the World
2)Razor Boy
3)Show Biz Kids

PL-(this one is very tough)
1)Night by Night
2)Monkey in your soul
3)With a gun/Parkers band

KL-
1)Dr. wu
2)Bad sneakers
3)Any world that I'm welcome to

RS-(another difficult one)
1)Haitian Divorce
2)Everything you did
3)Don't Take me alive/Kid Charlemagne

AJA-
1)Home at last
2)Josie
3)I got the news/Black Cow

GAucho-
1)Time out of mind
2)My rival
3)Babylon sisters

TVN-
1)West of Hollywood
2)Janie runaway
3)What a shame about me

NF-
1)Green flower street
2)Walk between the raindrops
3)New frontier

Kama-
1)Tommorrows girls
2)Teahouse on the tracks
3)Trans island skyway

11ToW-
1)My waterloo (awesome)
2)Junkie girl
3)Book of liars

Fletch-Very well put. I was going to retort to birdland but you did a pretty good job. 'nough said.

Favorite band none of my friends have heard of..World Party.
I don't have it in front of me right now but it was '85 or '86,
songs-Ship of fools, If you want a revolution. Not pop, not new wave, not rock, lot of keyboards. Anyone out there with me here?

peace, love and DAN

Razor

thanks to the 2 gentlemen who rescued me and answered my "apples, peaches..." question. One of them is going to be a winner on Jeopardy for sure!

The saddest song I ever heard is called "Don't This Way." It's done by the Seventy Sevens. It's about someone who just died... The guitar is outstandingly beautiful. The lyrics are poetic, yet graphic. It brings tears.

aja: I'm excited about San Diego!

rb

Looks like my corruption is complete-the Innocent One is trying all sorts of new things. DaddyG, rev up the Blazer before Spring Break is over!

Why are we talking about sad songs? There's so much to celebrate!

Finally got my notification from med school-I'm wait listed. That means they STILL can't make up their minds! I think I'm going to defer admission until next year-that'll give me a better chance of getting in. Besides, I'm being seduced by the SoCal Siren, who sings ever so softly: come lie on my beaches! Swim in my waves! Bask in my sunshine! Buy expensive bicycles that take 6 mos to pay off! I'm caving in-she always wins.

Aja

...better stay away from 11TOW ~ it's teeming with those (gasp!) infernal "drum and synth machines"!!!!!

Tom ~ Only heard 11TOW twice???? Get with the program, buddy!

Roy,

Just remember,a lot of people really like opera. Almost nothing makes me happier than listening to part of the Ring Cycle (Wagner is one of my favorite composers), and one of these days, I hope to be able to catch the whole thing live. (What happened to Opti? I don't have time to read the GB anymore.)

Is anyone going to the shows at Columbia or Manassas? I'll be at both; it would begreat ifI could meet up with some folks from here. (By the way, I missed the pre-sale and bought my tickets on the first day of the general sale - I got the sixth row at Columbia, and the fifteenth at Manassas.)

The first three CDs I bought were a collection of spirituals sung by Jessye Norman and Kathleen Battle, a 2-CD set of chamber music by women composers, and the Mozart Requiem. (On the other hand, the first LP I bought was Elton John's Goodbye Yellow Brick Road).

no top three per album
too open ended, gotta make that very hard choice of one kiddies
so belly up (us worms are all ab dough men)

top one from top soil

Midnight Cruiser
Show Biz Kids
Dr Wu
Pretzel Logic
Haitian D (real tough diff)
Aja
Babylon Sisters
Maxine
Snowbound
What a SHame About Me

don't have a 11 t of W fave , only heard it twice

I was watching the latest Costner Baseball flick on DVD last night (For the Love Of the Game). There is a scene where he is single and cruising down the NYC freeway in a Porsche convertable and Reelin comes on. He is singing along and in his shades looks very Fagenesque, he then runs into the femme fatale with broken down car kicking the tires.

DOn't know who was involved in the filmmaking or script, but they definitely had an inner working knowledge of the Dan. The film is fun if not quite long and Kelli Preston (I think she is married to Travolta (lucky disco brained SNF dog)) pulls on my heart strings something worse than fiercely especially when she is oh so unassuming with those liberian glasses on! Some of their acting is pretty lame but overall a pleasureable movie experience.

oh la and la

CBAT: Brooklyn, Kings & Do It Again

CTE: King Of The World, Your Gold Teeth & My Old School

PL: Any Major Dude, Parker's Band & Pretzel Logic

KL: Doctor Wu, Bad Sneakers & Your Gold Teeth II

RS: Kid Charlemagne, Caves of Altamira & Haitian Divorce

A: Peg, Black Cow & Aja

G: Gaucho, Glamour Profession & Babylon Sisters

TAN: Negative Girl, Almost Gothic & Jack Of Speed

~~~~~~~~~

TN: Maxine, The Nightfly & Walk Between The Raindrops

K: Snowbound, On the Dunes & Tomorrow's Girl's

11TOW: Down In the Bottom, Surf and/Or Die & Lucky Henry

~~~~~~~~~~

AIA: Reelin' In The Years, Green Earrings & Sign In Stranger

Can't really argue with anyone's top 3--mine change constantly-- but why no Peg? Are we too cool? It's a perfect, perfect pop song. Comes off as a ditty but remains insidiously complex. Takes an ancient blues structure and finds novel twists and turns. Cruises along tight and punchy, then steps back for an alternately languid and explosive solo.

I have never gotten tired of that song.

Top 3 - how unfair - glad this isn't a "desert island" thing !

1) Aja

2)Gold Teeth

3)Josie

How about Top 3 from each

CBAT- Reelin,DoIt,OnlyAFool

Coundtdown- GldTeeth, ShowBizKids, BostonRag

Pretzel- NighByNight, Pretzel Logic, CharlieFreak

Katy - GldTeethII, Daddy,Everyone'sMovies,etc

Royal- Ddon't Take Me, Haitian, RoyalScam

Aja- Aja, Josie, Black Cow

Gaucho- Babylon, ThirdWrldMan, My Rival

Greatest Hits - Western World

TAN- TAN,Gaslighting,Shame

I admit someof those 60's and 70's am radio songs were schmatzy but fun. The difference today - it's not music, the backing tracks are usually programable ditties. In the old analog days it was musicians backing a singer.

Three worst things to happen to music 1)drum and synth machines 2) disco 3) Mtv

sad songs say so much

Adia - Sarah McL.
Luka - Suzanne Vega
Human Hands - Elvis Costello

top threedia dan
Katy Lied
Dr Wu
Aja

goosebumps everytime

have a great easter

Sad song -

"The Way We Were" (Hamlisch, Bergman, Bergman) as performed by Barbra Striesand

Sad songs:

"It Makes No Difference" The Band
"My Father's House" Springsteen
"Shine On You Crazy Diamond" Floyd

First CD's purchased

"Arc of a Diver" Steve Winwood
"Love Over Gold" Dire Straits
"White City" Pete Townshend

Fav tunes by our heroes (list changes dayly):

Gaucho
Dr. Wu
Gaslighting Abbey

Mystery List:

Earth, Wind, and Fire
Suzannah Hoffs
Almann Brothers

Edd:

Nice call on "One Fine Morning" by Lighthouse. That one's burned into my memory because it was the first song that came on the radio during my very first driving lesson. Had to be fall of '71.

Aja/Innocent One:

Stop it right now, you two. I'm *this* close to springing for the candy-apple-red Blazer, and you're NOT helping. Hmmm ... I wonder if the vanity tag BIG RED is available in my state?

By the way, the line goes, "dad went on that SPREE," not speed. Although speed is funnier.

My fave three:

Deacon Blues
Doctor Wu
Eight-way tie between Kid Charlemagne, Haitian Divorce, Black Cow, Janie Runaway, West of Hollywood, My Old School, Jack of Spree ;) and Almost Gothic)

My first three CDs:

Aja
Brothers in Arms
Ten Summoner's Tales (didn't get a CD player 'till '93)

Fave sad song:

You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go -- Dylan from Blood on the Tracks

Roy, Steven, Hutch:

You guys remind me of the my long-lost friends from high school. (OK, that's not necessarily a compliment, but still) ... it's amazing how an affinity for SD translates into having so many other things in common. Someone else wrote this in one of the many recent articles about the band, but it's so true ... if you're plowing through someone's record collection and you run across a bunch of Dan, it's an automatic qualifier: This person is OK.

LISA: I heard THAT....let's get it goin on. Problem is, the gig is on a Friday, otherwise I'd suggest a Summer Smoker zum Der Jokerhaus: perhaps a tailgate is more appropriate -- unless we got some crazies out there who can afford a 3-DAY WEEKEND.....

when one becomes melancholy one must transcend the world of pop and delve into classical: an old tune i used to play in my prepubescent orchestra years usually does the trick (pavane pour une infante defuncte/Maurice Ravel)

3 favorite sd songs:

1.caves of altimira
2.black cow
3.walk between the raindrops

favorite new music:
~sweetback(sade sidemen)
~groove theory(amel larrieaux has great vocal chops)
~everything but the girl(loved them for sooo long)
~paul weller(his just-released album is fantastic)
~dream theater(great ensemble rock straight outta nyc)
~cassandra wilson(nuff said)
~stereolab(ditto previous post. some smooth stuff here)

fletch, that was an elegant post. stick to your guns my man. i'm with you.

we can be as fucking eclectic as we oughta be and still agree on one thing: steely dan is still da man!

if it good to ya; it gotta be good for ya!

steven

Dan top 3 sort of (today)

Black Cow
DrWu
(tie) Negative Girl, Your Gold Teeth II

50s, early 60s: Buddy Holly, Monk, Miles, Coltrane, Mingus, Stan Kenton, Silver

oleander to the left of me, joker to the right...

raleigh danfest anyone?

Cruiser: I'm shooting for the July 23 Virginia beach show. Sorry I won't see you at the Ben Folds Five show. How's Opti's recovery going? (Preferred answer is "100%").

'another board@Birdland West' : I believe you're looking for the jazz snob message board at funkless.com. My interest in good old pop songs goes way beyond nostalgia. I still l-u-v to listen to Sweet City Woman, Barefoot in Baltimore, Moonlight Feels Right, Tell Me Something Good, How Long, Dancin' In the Moonlight and most of the Four Seasons stuff. [I also love making lists.] And if the Guestbook turns even further back, I'll be glad to disgust you with my admiration for all that 4 chord doo-wap music of the 50's. --- Every 'type' of music has some great material (except opera, of course). So take off your shades and turn on the AM radio now and then, just to restore your periferal vision.

One more thing: The present day pachuco will never die.

My Old School , Black Cow, Bad Sneakers.

Stevie Dan: Didn't George Jones (the high-tech redneck) also do the song "A Picture of Me Without You"? A true tear jerker. The greatest olifactory vocalist south of Donald Fagen.

RS

Birdland West (Puker) - I can tell by your post that you are undeniably the coolest person to ever grace this board. You may even be the coolest person in the world. (Of course you already knew that, didn't you)?

Birdland West - My, aren't we being elitist? What is 'Reelin' in the Years' but 'white male rock'? There's more to music than jazz, my friend. Even Donald said he dug TV Show theme songs.
Maybe it's impossible for one genrè to express all the varied ideas that humankind can emote. (My thought anyway).
You must learn to walk before you can run. Not everyone likes a flat 13 in their chords....lol
It takes time for the musical pallette to appreciate jazz, and not everyone will (just as it takes time for young kids to like broccoli, but tastes change. Some (me) will never really like broccoli though....hehe)

The songs we mentioned are all worthy songs. They make us cry, fill us with delight, make us dance, fall in love, or help to heal. That, in the long run, is what music is all about. Enjoyment.
No need to be snooty, or do the 'Walter wouldn't listen to this' thing. So what? I don't have to like everything he likes. I'm not after his approval. I'm not THAT big a fan. I don't like all the music my friends like, either, but they're still my friends. We may tease each other now and again about the songs we like, but, in the end, whats the harm?

As you can tell from an earlier message of mine, I HATE todays 'pop' music. It pisses me off, but the 60's and 70's (and yes, even the 80's) have a lot to offer.

Fletch

re: Puker

Keep it in perspective. Those lists of oldies are (at least for me) fond memories from long ago. They're examples of what I once found amusing, not what currently piques my interest. As I said earlier, their relevance is nostalgic, not current.

Chances are, if any of those albums or tunes were released today I'd not only not buy them, but I'd probably not even know they'd been released.

Top 3? Impossible! But for now......

1) Dr Wu
2) Black Cow
3) Rose Darling

Sad songs? I think in retrospect IGY is a very sad song to listen to. Something about hope left unfulfilled which is really poignant in that song. "by '76 we'll be AOK", "We'll be eternally free yes and eternally young". Also Brooklyn is such a sad song especially the original demo with Donald singing.

all of this '70's reminiscing makes me puke......tell me you people aren't still listening to that shit.....there has been a few good albums since 1978!

and frankly do you think Fagen of Becker listen to the shit you people like? Little River Band???? come on people.....how about listening to some music that had a closer connection to the Dan....oh say Woody Herman, Victor Feldman....or all those sideman on that Bill Withers cd????

the 70's were a time when everyone kept smoking grass and forgot about the 'revolution',...maybe we should have stopped doing drugs and kept on eye on what was really going on....the decade started on Kent State and ended with Three Mile Island....as for Nixon....you might re-check your history books....he fucking resigned!!...never indicted as were all of his henchman...and of course was fully re-habilitated by the time of his death.......the '70's were a great time...but hey people those days are gone forever (over a long time ago!).........some recent albums that never get on the air:

Dead Bees on a Cake-David Sylvian
any album by the Stranglers
Paul Weller

everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I never liked much of the other middle of the road white male pop (Fogelberg, Browne)...I got into the dan and then jazz....bought Weather Report's Heavy Weather when I was 14.....come on 'Hot Child In the City'????? Pablo Cruise????? The Little River Band?????these groups are alien to the 'Dan of Steel'

Fagen:Hey Walter did ya get the new Little River band album??? I think we can get them to open for us...
Becker:goodbye Donald

Earthbound: I'm not in Lafayette now, in school for two more weeks in Columbia MO, and then maybe working in Chi this summer.

Me and the parents and a friend did get seats at Allmont Arezon. The last time I was at Rosemont was probably for some DePaul games back in the late 80s. I do remember seeing one band there, the Jets, after a Chicago Sting (remember them?) game back in 1987 or so. Even 7-year old KD thought they sucked back then, and Dad and I split.

The sound will be atrocious, or not...consider.

The Dan sound great on anything, over anything, anywhere, right? For the last week I've been listening to a tape of 'Gaucho' on my headphones going to class. Amazing. It's an MCA factory tape, like a mid-80s copy, that I bought for four bucks in November, 1998. It was my main headphones tape last year, listened to it possibly thousands of times by now (I thought I was exaggerating, but now I'm not so sure...) on a 20dollar Sony Walkman that has heads that are dirtier than Nixon/Clinton.

And today, man, the thing sound great. Brilliant highs, lows, mids, beautiful stuff. Wow. The title track, with the synth flare that fires from the right ear to left. The bloody system sounds like I'm listening to an MFSL or DTS disc and using my cans, instead of cheapo Osco-bought Walkman. The Dan can really polish the...

Regarding the AM favs from the 1970s and 1960s, the list is too long for me to go into. All of 'Nuggets,' really, the last box set I bought. Ok, the third box set I bought. Ok, I didn't buy the first one (Led Zep, Christmas, 13 years old). Anyway, good stuff.

Dunno if I've said it here or not, and this is in response to DrMu's recollections: the late 1970s were it, for me.

As much as I love the 50s jazz, the old time blues, and where I'm at now, I'd take 1976-1982 NYC over any six year period ever. I'd love to live in that era, disco or no. And I've listened to maybe three combined punk/new wave/whateva albums from that era in the last month. It wasn't the music, even though it was. The time was perfect for me.

Maybe 'Some Girls' comes closest to putting me in that mood, watching some old SNL, 'Gaucho.' That could have been my time. Instead, I'll have to settle for taking over in the near future. Look out.

Hello friends,
Not sure what the current fave catagory is but here goes....
Sad songs: Check out Patsy Cline's greatest hits or maybe Workingmans Dead
60's faves: Hendrix, especially "Axis Bold as Love"
70's faves: "Low Rider"-WAR, "Brick House"-Commodores, any thing by Joni

80's junk: nuff said
90's faves: I am big on Alanis Morissete
Timeless faves: Steely Dan, John Coltrane, and sometimes Ornette Coleman.
Top 3 Dan Faves: Deacon Blues, Janie Runaway, Pretzel Logic
(too bad this is limited to 3. I could list 25.)
Over & out,
Mike

Welcome innocent one! I'm still kinda a newbie myself but I find I feel right at home, there's great company here! Toast to all.

Fav 3-
Home at Last
Haitian Divorce
Only A fool Would Say That

This is if I HAD to pick, it's very difficult.

Favorite mood song-The Working Hour-Tears for Fears
played the hell out of this tape in '85

still working on a sad song, don't care for them too much although some really getcha right there...

Peace, love and Dan

Razor

Innocent One- SoulMonkey once guided me and told me although it against my natural expression of being, that it is good to keep a "lil' sass" back in yo pocket girl.the only real "ripping stuff" comes from the esteemed Walter Becker-" Rippin' it Up" I tell you!

I really need to get off this GB I am addicted to you all!!!!!!!

Much respect to you all and all things Steely Dan-like. chere

Steviedan. I am not a musician, but left home really young, thirteen years young and was reared but what I call my brothers, an ex boyfriend and all of our crew from back in the days of your first Grass smoking, acid tripping, french kissing, love making and we are all still close and gather every year at Christmas. 17 years investment still loving real strong. My beau is one of what used to be a brother and is mi vida Cubano. We are in mad love! Anyway, while they were all fucking around with wah wah peddles, guitars, and disecting vinyl, I was growing into a woman. the "baby of da bunch" My uncle is also a professional studio artist and has a three musical projects out all on Cd and who was the catylist who turned me onto the Dan among many other things. Maybe that's another component. He has done some studio work with Dixie Dregggs, Allman Brothers Band and Rick Wakeman. He is a drummer and percussionist extraodinare. I love him so strong.he also took a few lessons privately with Neil Peart from Rush.He lives in Salisbury NC studied at Catawba College. I am a preistesss in Santeria and Candomble, African in origin and a sister religion to VouDoun, but I am heavy on the healing and white side of this "magic". I am also a creatress, poet and real neo bohemian. Kinda like a white version of Erykah Badu(EVERYONE should check her Baduizm and Live albums!!! nO excuses) with a heart of every colour on the spectrum of a rainbow in Oya's garden growing in this religious and spiritual expression that is still evolving. But music is all ME. Makes me cry, laugh dance, own a pimp daddy purple half moon tambourine, and maracas to match, and play them at least once a week. That and ritual. That is me, a small component to "Our Tribe". I would love to e mail back and forth "Propa like" to compare even more deep thoughts- you seem to be to a point musically, on the same page as me. I likes dat. So e mail me sometime.

Everyone forgot Chrissie Hynde, she is great too.
Peter Gabriel- Passion is a great album. Nuff said.
So get a lighter, a zippo if it's windy, shake a lil' sumptin and Puff MY Stuff- Me..... the "neverending bowl".
Mowie Wowwwwie!!!!!!!!
chere

Great NEW shit aside from new Dan (just can't get enuff!)to check out and forget the radio and pop scene with all of it's group dancing and crapola... check some of these...
1. MeShell as I had stated before in my last posting- her album Plantation Lullabies is a bit "Black Concsiousness" stuff, but really good. Her other album Peace Beyond Passion is Awesome.
2. Les Nubiennes- it's all in French but really groovy, a cross between Soul to Soul in the old days, and Sade. It's one of those CD's you can just throw on and let play.
3. Brand New Heavies- Brother Sister is my fav but all their stuff is good.The older stuff is really funky and sans N'dia Davenport on vocals but really great music.
4. D'Angelo- A real Artist. He does all his own back up vocals and stuff mostly and it is great for a little freaky freaky solo or otherwise- we are all adults here.....
5.Macy Gray- An Artist, a Soul Sista and a Poetess like myself. She's like a mellow Jamariquai (by the way he is great too- all their stuff)
6. For mellower folk-
check out Santana's- Caravanserai another you can just throw on and let it play.
7.Paco de Lucia, Al Di Meola & John Mc Laughlin- the Guitar Trio Verve records
8. Roy Hargrove-Crisol Havana- that stuff is Heaven!!!
9. Jethro Tull's new album is great, especially lyrically.
10. Pat Metheny- Anything by him, and if you catch him in town go see him live- it is spiritual elevation my friends I tell you.
11. Cassandra Wilson- Traveling Miles- A Tribute to Miles Davis

My 11 cents. Love and blessings to you all. Welcome Innocent one, I am still a newby myself but you will make fast and worthy friends here on the GB. We are a tribe indeed! Blessed be dat!!!

favorite sad songs of all time:

'another auld land syne'-dan fogelberg(once again, the last line before the haunitng tenor fade chokes me up every time)

'alone again naturally'-gilbert o'sullivan(once you get past the schmaltz, it is a heartbreaking song of a son losing the love of his life and both parents in close succession )

'taxi'-harry chapin(wonderful story about lost youth, forgotten dreams, resignation. a precursor to 'what a shame about me. eerily similar story line and conclusion.: capitulation to life)

steven

Chere done brung up Me'shell Ndegeocello. Now there's a woman who deserves your ear. Ignore that John Cougar Mellencamp cover of Van Morrison that you probably know her from. Just buy her first album. Awesome stylist. Fine bass player. Tough woman. She's coming to Durham and I think this reminder might push me into ticketholder status. Chere, are you or have you ever been a musician ? Your ear is right-on, along with the rest of yuzz on this book. Oh I forgot, this IS a Steely Dan site.

Rather than just sad I'll go for profound or quietly uplifting:

For a Dancer-Jackson Browne

Kindness-Todd Rundgren

Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology)-Marvin Gaye

Gaia-James Taylor

Here's to Life-Shirley Horn (the song OR the album)

Fields of Gray-Bruce Hornsby

He Stopped Loving Her Today-George Jones (okay that's SAD)

I Remember You-Jazz Standard Sung by anyone really slow.

The Shirt-Mary Chapin-Carpenter

now THAT my friends is some rainy day shit.

People are talkin' bout the Stylistics and I'm hearin' 'em.

My first three CDs: Nightfly, What If-Dixie Dregs, Everybody Digs...-Bill Evans.

At the risk of be repetitive repetitively, question being raised, newer pop bands that don't suck: New Radicals, Owsley, as Chere mentioned Brand New Heavies. There is always a good supply of essential music coming from somewhere in the world or in your own hometown. Most of it is not heard on your radio. I've always made it a goal in life to continually be exploring music of all eras and locales, including now and tomorrow. You can't even get to all of it.

I can sing all of TAN really good.

One night we're playing gin by a kwaklin fire..

Whew! I've been so funky I am surprised that my CD player still works and my beau still wants some freaky freaky. I had to break out all the CD's I own but listen to only occasionally, for old time's sake.

Tom who is the worm: There is some place in Texas that can get hard to find stuff, look on internet under vintage records stores, I think it was in Austin, I will try to get better info for you. Another place to try for the DVD situation....I know this great store in Pompano Beach Fl called The CD Collector and he has alot of hard to find stuff, OLD and NEW. The number by phone is , wait let me get my wallet...Ask for Sean Kayes, he's the owner who can be found in this tiny beachside record store blasting everything from Beatles to Mazzy Starr. He has some kind of internet thing going on too. Lots of bootlegs, imports, good stuff. He's cool too to boot. So check him for the DVD thang you lookin for. Another great place for hard to finds.... Blue Note Records in North Miami Beach, don't know the number, the lady who answerd the phone last time I was searchin' was such a bitch that I never wanted to call back unless I HAD to. Nevertheless, check em out if your still searchin'''''''''

All you bird watching squirrell peoples, I have a friend who lives in rural gainesville who has a legal ZOO on his property, Emu's in the backyard, tricoloured squirrells, birds, snakes, and many different things botanical in nature.. Maybe I can help you with the feeding situation. So everyone can have their fair share. I'll ask him.

For ANYONE"S info, I was serious about opting to put the camel to bed and have a little peyote and a belly dance.

Ah, the good ol days.....

steviedan: you make my heart flutter with those props!Mad thanks and appreciation. Make me wanna holler!

chere

ME'Shell Ndege'Ocello does a great version of that old Bill Wither's tune "Who is he and what is he to you?". Check it out.
At he end of the day.... The DAn still rules!!!!!!!!!!
All Hail.

OMIO- That was cute thanks ;)

:) :( --Thank you for your suggestion. If anyone is every an ass, just What A Shame About them~ ;) it will have to be 1 against chat room....haha too easy to make SD puns :)
Ajax-- Come on, is it really too much to ask?! :)
Mock turtle-- Hey Nineteen Rules! Thanks for answering my question, you are living proof that the room isn't at all hard to handle!
Shout to AJA! you are awesome!

DJ Mitch: A Big 10-4 on that Quicksilver Messenger Service..
Check their new stuff out, too.. New band has Greg Errico (Sly & The Family Stone), Jimmy Guyette (bass for John Lee Hooker), Michael Lewis (the secret Steely Dan connection, a staff mixing engineer on Aja, composer of music for several TV shows, Ninja movies, and producer for David Benoit & Michael McDonald), Tony Menjivar (from the Malo/Santana camp), and the ever popular, Scarey Gary Duncan, who ought to be the road guitar for Steely Dan.. but isn't.. (Added benefit, he makes Donald look like a cuddly lil' puppy..).

Edd: Another big 10-4 on Lighthouse.. saw 'em live and they were a raging monster of a live band..

'60's Classic (5): Spooky.. Always sounded Dannish to me..

Fletch: Sad Song: Rio De Janiero Blue..

Mid-Cruise: Hummingbirds been flocking us for about 6 weeks..

Innoncent One: (not for long..) Don't listen to 'em.. They're soft like Twinkies in the middle..

And like Sands Through The Hourglass, so Go The Days To The Show.. (foot tapping and fingers drumming..)

J-Dubs: Pt. Edwards was peaking at 18 feet..

Hey Nineteen,
Haitian Divorce,
My Old School.

I guess.

Maybe not quite sad, but melancholy tunes;
Rod Stewart - "Handbags and Gladrags"
Greg Allman - "Queen of Hearts"
Leon Russell - "Song for You"
Bruce Springsteen - " Meeting Across the River"

THREE favorite SD tunes? You're asking too much!

Innocent One: "They" are going to rip you up in here, girlfriend. You gotta be hard core, this is a tough room...

Try cursing at someone, or offer to show your torso to Clas.

Chere - thanks :)

Edd - I agree about Romeo and Juliet. Great percussion with the wood blocks doing the steady beat, and the drums doing that cool syncopated thing :)

Ok....todays topic....what is your most fav sad song? The song that most makes you want to bawl? :)

Mine has to be 'Skeletons' by Rickie Lee Jones. Especially the live version from 'Naked Songs'.....GOD!! What a killer!! Gets me every time. So does the slow part from 'Pirates (So long lonely Avenue)'

'Aubrey' by Bread is quite touching too. Especially that line, 'And I'd go a thousand times around the world, just to be, closer to her than to me' :(...

Fletch

Quick question for EVERYONE:
Whats your top 3 all time steely dan songs?? Quick :)
for me it would be
1. Deacon Blues
2. Babylon Sisters
3. Hey Nineteen

Ok so everyone answer i'm curious. well if you want
***It must have been my lucky Thursday, when Dad went on that speed***

re: M. Cruiser

(My apologies to the rest for the non-Dan related divergence.)

I'm using a pair of K-1000s (rock solid manual workhorses) with SMCT lenses (28 2.8, 35 3.5, 50 2.0, 135 2.5) and a couple of no name 300 and 400 presets (hardly used).

The Feeder is located about 5 feet from my kitchen window and has a fitting to mount a camera right on it, although I usually just shoot from the window. There's nothing behind the house for miles except a pond and old growth.

I've been doing photography for years, but only started doing birds about a year ago. I love it.

http://www.ultranet.com/~eddcote/feeder/thefeedr.htm

AHH i figued it out! What a dumb ass am I!!! Oh my gosh i seriously can't believe that i forgot that!! Well now i know, it's from Black cow, lookin' so outrageous and they tell ya so you should know....DUH!! wow i really am embarressed! Well thank you for the really nice welcome! I look forward to it :)

Welcome, young one. Now that you're here, you cannot leave, but you won't want to, either. We're always trying new things here.

Well Brownie points for AJA because she "lured" me down here as she put it. I know thats from a song but not from an Aja song...i'm going to go crazy trying to think what song that is from! Thanks a lot!! Haha, well this is cool...now i might have to talk to all these people!!
Later

Edd....Carpenter Ants eh? I don't know that we have them in southern Virginia. Can't say I've ever heard anyone around here mention them. Where we have our feeders is about 30 feet above the ground, outside our bedroom on the top floor of the house. In the back of the house, the basement is above ground so that's one level. Then there's the main level above that with a large deck and above that is upstairs where our bedroom is, with a smaller balcony overlooking the deck which also overlooks nothing but old growth woods as far as the eye can see. We have these gigantic tulip poplars and oaks just off the back of the house. This highest balcony is where we keep our feeders and it's a great spot for photographing the wildlife. I've got a 135 f2.5 that I use most of the time there but I bought a used 300mm f4 last year (in great shape) that I can get some really nice close-ups with. I'm still using all Canon FD stuff (never made the leap to EOS). An A-1 for most of it and an old F-1 I use for astrophotography. What kind of equipment are you using for wildlife photography?

back to work in the morning....be back Friday.

I'm engaging in the corruption of a young thing. Not yet old enough to drink (legally). She didn't know what "lookin' so outrageous" was. Oooooh, the innocence. I'm earning her trust and luring her down to our lair....pretty soon, she'll be wearing spike heels, lookin' so outrageous, and ready to try new things.

Aja

JWMalibu-are you still planning on coming down Saturday the 10th? If so, I'll organize a beach/surf party that day. I'll let you know when we get the details ironed out for your website. Might as well go California all the way for our out-of-towners!

That single seat at Irvine Meadows is still available.....and tempting. Do I have another $85 I can part with? Tom-I need that check, buddy!

sooutrageous-your hooterie is going to be a kick. And that's what I'm doing to myself for not being financially wise enough to have money to fly out for it (says the woman who just took out a loan for a 2K triathlon bike).

Remember Danwomen, the theme for the San Diego hooterie is "looking so outrageous".

Aja

Currunt favs-
*Spin Doctors
*Soulive
*Tonkin Toys (local band)

A HEADS-UP for the newly initiated and seasoned professionals who are making it to the Gorge show:

The enGORGEment listbot machine is currently having a big ol' external server problem and can't deliver mail right to your inbox. If you've sent a post, or not seen the recent posts, you should check the banyantree archives.

If you're on the list, you know what to do. If not, click the link thingy St. Al has placed right up there (see? look up at the last line before the first message and click it) and all will be revealed.

Big doin's. Big doin's indeed.

love and kisses
diane

60íes: Fletch named the ultimate 60íe: Waterloo sunset by Kinks!
second: Groovin´ (Young) Rascals. Runner up: I´m a man by Spencer Davis group.

I've never tried attracting hummingbirds. I'd want the feeder close enough to the house to photograph them, but putting sugar water that close to the building goes against every CARPENTER ANT-HATING BONE IN MY BODY!!!!

{ahem} Sorry. I get carried away.

okay

I went to tower in the quarter to get the Making of Aja dvd
no luck but they did have the making of Who's Next and two cool IMAX films on Plate Tectonics and the Grand Canyon

eye and ear candy for sure

please send me sights to mail order the PBS and Making and any other Dan DVD material thanks (bergeon@shellus.com)

grab your vespa

we're gonna rev up the motor scooters

sixties - electric Dylan, The Band, Buff Springfield, Moby Grape, The Doors, Velvet Underground, Strawberry Fields era Beatles, Love, Eric Burden, Gram Parsons era Byrds, early Mick Taylor era Stones

today - REM, Flaming Lips, Fountains of Wayne, Liz Phair, not much

people still doing it: Young, Dylan, Bruce Cochburn, Van, Joni, Patti Smith, Bruce, Crimson

people who should definitely stop doing it: Bowie, Zep retreads, Stones, Who, ELP, Aerosmith, theres more, add on please

the finch feeders work well for us too....as for the squirrels, we just let them have their fill of food and then the birds come up to eat when the squirrels aren't there....we even have a few flying squirrels if you look out just after dark....I've found that the juncos will eat even when the squirrels are eating from the same feeder at the same time....btw, is it time to put out hummingbird feeders yet?

re: sparrows and finches...

Try setting up a special niger feeder for the finches. The finches are patient enough to dig the seeds out of the tiny holes, while the sparrows prefer the easy pickin's...

Rocket powered squirrels are my biggest problem. (Maybe you already know that...)

Drone: thanks for the Dallas ticket sale tip!!! I wish you could talk our boys into one more concert on July 30th in Oklahoma city!

In The Spotlight video update: my copy came from WNET in today's mail!!!

EDD: current bands, etc: i got one word for you: STEREOLAB. Look for them next time you're checking how many SD albums are available in yer favorite record shoppe (you're right there alphabetically, might as well).....think Kraftwerk meets Astrud Gilberto........

sparrows have been monopolizing the birdfeeders 'round the compound.... the poor goldfinch couples have to wait their turns lately.

OLEANDER: are you making it down to Capital City for the SD show?

~ taking a screen capture, everyone say CHEEZE -

~bob-'i've just got to be free'(actual title is 'free'.) was done in the 70's by mini-dynamite-songstress, deniece williams. tommy leonetti also did a version of this song in the 60's.

~clas & malibu, any chance of the other gb 'also-rans' getting our hands on the clas-man's newest release?

steve

Another classic "forgotten" song of the '60s...

The Reflections - "(Just Like) Romeo and Juliet"

great post Mr. Drone!

Thanks from all Danfans,

Q

From today's Hoop's SD Digest, to illustrate a point I was making last night about tickets and pre-sale events:

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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:21:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Mark R. Mavis"
Subject: ticketmaster

I tried all day on Sunday to access Ticketmaster's "presale" event. My password went unused as the webpage kept telling me, "tickets for this event are not on sale", though above that statement was the announcement that presale/password tickets went on sale at 10am. No tickets for me.

I decided to do it the old-fashioned way; stand in line at the local TicketMaster outlet with the rest of the unwashed masses. So at 9:45 Monday, I'm the only person in line at RiteAid drug store. By 10am, 8 more people have shown up. Tickets go on sale. I buy three. Middle section, row 2. Screw the presale event. I'll practically be sitting in Don's lap!!

Mavis

"We won't get fooled again"
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Ticketmaster is running an unadvertised internet presale (nothing to do with steelydan.com) for Dallas tix today 4/20 until 4/21, 6PM Central. General sale begins 4/22.

Individual promoters/venues have the discretion to set and change on-sale dates, even after one has already been announced on T/M. They can change. Bottom line for earliest notice of remaining on-sale dates: the T/M site should be checked several times a day - even after a general sale date is announced.

Lovin' the lists of nostalgic tunes! I've built an "electronic flashcard" database/app for R&R Jeopardy cramming; currently eight thousand + songs, artists & factoids ~ primarily the stuff not indelibly etched in my psyche. It pops the answer up, allows me four seconds to respond and enables me to track how many times I've gotten the question wrong, so I can focus on my stumbling blocks. There were more than a few songs that have popped up in the past week here on the GB that I've didn't have/since added...you guys are inadvertently helping me to study ~ thanx!

Regarding the Southern California Hooteries ~ I'm going to set up a webpage for information pertaining to both the Irvine and San Diego shows. Aja & Ruby: as you gals firm up your plans as to the whats/wheres & hows, please e-mail me, and I'll post all pertinent information for ya'! Stranger & I are planning a tailgate party at Irvine Meadows...if you're going to be at Irvine, please let us know...I believe there are about 7-8 of us so far. WormTom ~ you ready to learn how to surf, buddy?

Clas ~ Your new song keeps growing on me like a nasty rash! Nice work, man!!! That sax playa' kicks some solid ass!

Okay, it works. I went to Baylor University from 80' to 83', and while there I heard a rumor that one of the Steely Dan band members was teaching a science class. I meant to take my greatest hits album over for an autograph, but I never got around to it. Question: Is it true that the guy called "Slide Hyde" was teaching there?

Darren

test

Did anyone mention...

"Thirteen Questions" - Seatrain
or
"One Fine Morning" - Lighthouse

Jackie Blue was done by The Ozark Mountain Daredevils and was a great cut that didn`t sound like most of their material, they appeared with Southern Rock bands....Tower of Power till this day is The Bay Area`s favorite. The group still plays the National Anthem at San Francisco`s Baseball games and they are listed in Bay Area Web Links. Lenny Williams was the voice there, but the band has continued with personel changes and still has Plenty of Power........speaking of Bay Area how about QUICKSILVER MESSENGER SERVICE,MOBY GRAPE,WAR lots of late 60`s and 70`s acts from the Bay.......Someone mentioned Gino Vinelli, well i had Storm at Sunset 8 track playing for a month straight. A few acts that haven`t been mentioned in this 70`s trip are Progressive Rock`s King Crimson featuring Robert Fripp and Irish Rocker who has since passed away Rory Galagher

Bob- I think Donald Fagen is ALL soul singer...doesn't have a particularly great instrument (though a very solid upper register), but he has the nuances and feel for a soul ballad in his bones. He stands in a lonely blue spotlight and brings those WASAM lyrics to life.

But McDonald is a great soul singer with a great instrument. He would just kill on that song.

You've got to see the segment about Peg on the Making of Aja video. McDonald talks about how hard the backup part was, then they isolate his part and it sounds sooooo easy.

Another fantastic slow soul song from the 70s on my top 10 list: "Hurry up this way again" by the Stylistics. Very neat stuff happening harmonically, along with vocals that make you cry. Another great one which I'm looking for: (I've just got to be) "Free", not sure who the artist was. Also "Don't ask my neighbors", by the Emotions. Very soulful. And of course Sly and the Family Stone were and are favorities of mine. And, like Edd, it's been 25 years since I've listened to a "rock" or a "pop" staion. When I lived in LA in the early 80s, there was a good smooth jazz station which I recorded a lot and brought back to MN, where I still listen to sometimes. Last three CDs I bought were and Earth, Wind and Fire greatest hits, TVN of course, and a Maze greatest hits. Also like the best of Sinatra, and Dean Martin. Don't laugh!!

Also agree with some postings here that Michael McDonald would do a great job on "What a Shame About Me". I think DF qualilfies as a soul singer too, however. Listen to the end of "Shame" where he is moaning. Very soulful. Also on "Kamakiriad", the "c'mon daddy" parts.

Hey, "Strange Kind Of Love" was also one of my first CD purchases, mostly due to the tangential SDness...

A couple more before the threads wrap up:

60's: CKLW ("The Motor City...") in the family Ford; preferably Sly Stone or Motown

70's/80's:
Pearl Harbor and the Explosions "Up And Over"
Vapors "Turning Japanese"
Bram Tchiakovsky "Girl Of My Dreams"

First 3 CD's: #1 was positively Love And Money's "Strange Kind Of Love." I'd found a promo cassette at a shady music store and paid $3 for it because it was produced by Gary Katz. A few listens later, I sprang for the CD. I think #2 was 10cc's "How Dare You." Odds are #3 was "Aja."

Favorite current bands?

I am almost completely ignorant of what's happening in pop/rock music, my only exposure to it being those times when I'm in a public place and the radio's playing. It's been literally years since I could listen to any station playing contemporary rock (and all the sub-genres). There may well be some gems out there, but I just don't have the time to slog through the stuff I'm just not interested in, which is most of it. I'm not saying it's inherently BAD, I just don't care for it. Much of it is ideas I've heard before, and there's too much other music out there (jazz, classical, ethnic, whatever) that offers me better odds.

TVN excepted, I can't remember the last time I bought a CD that was on the charts.

A recent post recommended Pantera as interesting, so since I can listen to snippets on CDNow, etc., I checked them out. The experienced bordered on painful. If that band has anything to offer, I'm going to miss out, and frankly, I don't care. If I die without having ever experienced Pantera, well, so what? I'd rather listen to silence.

It's been about 20 years since rock and I parted ways. The split was amicable. Kinda like a divorce where there's no hard feelings.

Edd, you are right, most seventies bands were crap. You have to wade through the most inane pap to get to the good stuff. Okay I'm biased but, the Dan are the only band for me who have a consistent back catalogue from the 70's. How about favourite current bands? Wilco are an excellent band, especially their last album Summerteeth (dont let the title put you off).

Just wanted to add another note on Cassandra Wilson, that sista is beautiful! I saw this film /video live concert whatever you call it and she did this entire show as a tribute to Miles Davis. The album is called "Traveling Miles". Worth every penny. Check it out.
I really am going to try to sleep now.

Derng derng derng derng derng derng derng derng derng derng derng derng derng derng derng Love is like Oxygen .... derng derng derng.... you get too much you get too much, not enuff when your'e gonna die, love gets ya high......... Special for Fletch...

PS STEELY DAN RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am off to bed at 5:28 am Boca Raton time. Peace...Chere

Steviedan!- You ARE wit me!! Can I get an AMEN!? Car trouble is funky and fucked up. Benson, Heavies, Average White band etc.. That's just plain "whew" stank Funk, and "chile' I am all up In it!!!!!!" Thanks for recognizing a sista. Much love!- chere La Gringa Loca/Bruja Blanca, and preistess Candomble and Santeria
peace and blessings.

So we're on to the 60's favs now, huh? Cool....
Some of mine include ..

* Good Vibrations - The BeachBoys (This seems to be what ended the fashion of the 3 minute song. Brian calls it a 'pocket symphony', in that it has different movements and speed. A classic. Voted No.1 in the Mojo '100 Best Singles of All Time' poll by 150 artists and producers. Interestingly, the Dan don't even get a look in.)

* Walking in the Rain - The Ronettes (Wow...what a great song. Great voice. Also their immortal 'Be My Baby' which inspired Brian Wilson so much, he'd listen to it every morning, and probably still does...lol)

* Eve of Destruction - Barry McGuire (Goosebump time again)

* You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin - Righteous Brothers (What more can I say? A Classic. Phil Spector lied about how long it was to the record guys - gave it a 'fake' ending, cause it went over 3 minutes.)

* The Name Game - Shirley Ellis (bit of fun)

* Monday, Monday - Mamas and the Papas (Great harmonies again. Read somewhere recently that Mama Cass actually died from choking on a sandwich)

* Waterloo Sunset - The Kinks (great song. This was actually voted number one in a READERS poll in Mojo magazine)

* So Sad (To Watch Good Love Go Bad) - Everly Brothers. (Nice harmonies. A journalist once remarked that when they sing together, a third voice almost seems to come out of the ether to fill in the harmony. Of course they were a forerunner of Simon and Garfunkel who I also dig)

* Big Girls Don't Cry - The Four Seasons (Ahh...great 60's songs. The east coast version of the BeachBoys. Also great hits of Sherry, Rag Doll, Workin' My Way Back To You, Walk Like A Man etc)

Too many to mention really. Can't think right now.

Fletch

Thanks to Cara Mia and others on this GB, I just had the opportunity, a second chance to catch and capture on tape the wonderful Joni Mitchell special. Just loved some of the Seat-of-the-pants production elements like when Cyndi Lauper just totally lost the band, turned and beckoned them to follow her and it turned out just fine. James shows up just in time to remind us of his status as "THE MAN". KD Lang, brilliant ! Ditto Cassandra Wilson ! "Amelia" by Colvin & Chapin-Carpenter...chilling ! Diana Krall continues to amaze me. If I were not 19 years happily married, I would alternate stalking her and Nanci Griffith. Voci angelici. Where WAS Nanci anyway ? Cara, your picture with Joni is a treasure.

Chere girl you down wit sum bad ass tunage. Benson, Heavies... Yes ? Good god y'all. Child if you in some kind of funk you sure do hide it well, talkin' THAT walk. Yeah.

Billee Babee just in case you weren't aware...dude this is a STEELY DAN website. Man you talkin' PANTERA !!! Maybe Meshuggah but never PANTERA. Meshuggah is a highly aggressive aggro prog metal band from Sweden that cites SD and Holdsworth among others as influences and it makes sense. You check THEM out.

In light of the past 48 hours of 70s threading, I pose this dangerous and controversial statement: If the Backstreet Boys came out with "I Want It That Way" in 1972, we would all just LOVE it today.....DISCUSS!!! Just think of some of the schweet pop ditties that have reared their heads (yeah I love em too) and be HONEST with yourselves.......

steviedanpeaceouwwwwt

first lp: "something new" - beatles

highlights from bouncing in the back o' mom's
corvair:

the in crowd - ramsey lewis 3
scotch & soda - kingston 3
the look of love - (multiple)

FEZZY: Hay. So be it. Stick with the LPs.
(New album, remember, nudge)

delurking: Hoo Yew Bee ???

Clas: I hear flights this way are cheap now.
Can we expect you? I'll bet you've already got
something booked... You hopped over last
tour, didn't you? (btw, Love your submission w/JW)

***T-minus 4 to Storytellers***

Hello friends,
Just browsed through the postings April 5th to the present. Jeez!!! Fine reading as always. The prospects are always good that I'll encounter titilating and lively discussions which include references to "cock teasers & whores". By the way, cock teasers & whores are truly two different animals. The cock teaser would surely go broke if trying to be a whore.
The LAME Award goes out to the mental collossus who initiated the Paublo Cruise examinations. Appearing soon here in "Sign in Stranger" will be an engaging thesis dealing with the collective works of the 3 Stooges. Hopefully you will include chord charts for the 3 Stooges theme song. I have been trying to dissect this little ditty for 20 years now (please help!!).
Seems to be a lot of disgruntled ticket buyers. I guess I am one of them (1st row seats 1 & 2 section A, Gorge with complimentary backstage pass). I am grateful, however, for the chance to have bought "presale". Still, I think there should be an exaustive investigation regarding this matter/antimatter.
In closing, I must state the obvious;
3 things in this world are absolutes:
death, taxes & TicketBastard
If I were calling the shots I'd say death to taxes and ticket Bastard.
See you at the Gorge,
Mike

More fav flavours of the 70's
This one's a sing along.....

Midnight At The Oasis
Send your camel to bed
Shadows painting our faces
Traces
Romance in our head
Heaven's holdin' a half moon
Shinin' just for us.
Let's slip up to the
Sand dune
Real soon
Kick up a litle dust
Come out
Cactus is our friend
He warms out the way
Come out
Till the evenin' ends
Till the evenin' ends
You dont have to answer
There's no need to speak
I'll be your belly dancer
prancer
And you can be my sheik
And you won't need no heaven honey
When I am by your side
And you won't need no camel
No No
When I
take you for a ride
Come out
Cactus is our friend
He warms out the way
Come out
Till the evenin' ends
Till the evenin' ends
sax solo
Midnight at the Oasis
Send your camel to bed
Lets slip up to the
Sand dune
Real soon
Kick up a little dust
Come out
Cactus is our friend
He warms out the way
Come out
Till the evenin' ends
Till the evenin' ends
Come out
Cactus is our friend
He warms out the way
Come out
Till the evenin' ends
Till the evenin' ends
Owwwwwwwwwwwwww
OOOOAAASIIIIISSSS
Mid night....
At the Oasis
Mid night .....
At the Oasis......

How's that for a blast from the past? I hope you all sang along.I just recently got a hold of an import of remixes by the Brand New Heavies and N'dya Davenport does a great funky version of this classic 70's tune.

Also love
Season of the Witch - Donovan
Nobody's Fault But Mine and No Quarter- Zepp
Fearless and SEAMUS- OLD Floyd- Meddle
Yours Is No Disgrace- YES
In Memory of Elizabeth Reed- Allman Brothers
Anything by SANTANA, especially "Guajira"

Fezo- I saw David Gilmour solo in 84 (your are correct) the day after my birthday July fifth for $14.75 Roger Waters Apr 13, of 1985 for an even $15.00. Can't wait for this show. $60.00 but it will be a masterpiece. It always has been and ever shall be......
edd and earthbound- I have a 91 Mitz Eclipse GS with a DOHC. I just had the entire top end of engine replaced (rebuilt I am not rich) I assume the gaskets should be fine and the asshole just did not re program my cars onboard computer in completion of the job? OR is it not customary to follow up after the hardware to adjust the software too? Took it to my dad's mechenic this week and he fixed alot, it runs alot smoother, but the idiot light makes me nuts. And it did not come on until I got on I95 at my usual mach speed.NOT- I 95 is Carnage in the waiting. The reason I had to replace the top half of the engine was because my timing went. I had it done by the dealership right at 50,000 and then just before I went another 50k it went. No more warrantees or freebies. And then capute. Complete valve gig and everything. $1300.000 nightmare. I cannot express how much I appreciate the fast and sweet responses from all of you. So sweet. Go ahead Blush a bit...........

David in the Fl room -I am still up in the air about tix and where Tampa with you and Q or WPB.

Soul, JW, Ducky, Mu and Ole how are you folks?My best to you all.

Having real strong juju tonight.... A little San Pedro reminiscing....'Twas a bit of "old hat" time...... 'Tis still....

Anyone up for belly dancing , camel rides, and a little peyote Mescalito?
But then there's always the option of putting the camel to bed and just doing the belly dance and Mesaclito thang.

feelin' frisky @ 2:43 In balmy South Florida paradise.
Smiles.... chere

Devilicious...................

Jive and Dr. Mu,

I agree with all your picks!! "Can't Hide Love" is a top favorite of mine, also "It Keeps You Runnin'". Sounds like you guys would really like some of Frankie Beverly and Maze..like "Happy Feelings", or "Runnin' Away", "Back in Stride".. all very funky and with that wonderful voice. So many others...Isleys, Rufus...going to SD at both Shoreline and Tweeter. Can't wait.

dr. mu- "then you can tell me goodbye" was done by the casinos.
beautiful song.

I'm Chester the white guy
from Kalamazoo.
Won't you turn your radio down
Respect the sound-sensitive relays we use.
So you say there's a race
of men in DC.
They're for gun legislation.
Thanks for calling.
I wait all night for jobs like these.
An independent nation
"Michigan Born & Free"
With guns and propagation
From our place in Ypsalanti
I've got plenty of Semtex
and big nasty things
And I feel them spying!
They say I have a heart of ice;
a heart like ice.
if you want your Uzi
to shoot super swell
you must spring for that little blue box
patton's piercing shells
they pierce like hell
An independent nation
"Michigan Born & Free"
With guns and propagation
from our place in Ypsalanti
You'd never believe it,
but once there was this time
when love was in my life.
I often wonder,.... what happened to that dame?
She said that I'm insane!
It was me!.....ME!
IT WAS ME!
But now i'm out of my mind.
An independent nation
Michigan Born & Free
With guns and propagation
from our place in Ypsalanti.

Old music? Live music? The absolute best live band (maybe ever!) ...and still kicking (with many changes of personel) Tower of Power! In the good old days, James Brown live also hard to top. Stevie Wonder. And everyone should at some time hear a real live 16 (or so) piece Salsa band from Puerto Rico, like El Gran Combo or Sonora Ponceña. They play in NY from time to time. Saw Hendrix live in '68, somewhat of a disappointment, and I'm a big fan. Saw the Who live just after Pinball Wizard came out, now there was a concert...very good seats too!! Led Zepplin also disappointing live.

hey now, my 60's blasts:

five-o clock world-the vouges

sweet city woman-the stampeders

gonna happen in the city-the easybeats

walkin in rhythm-the blackbirds(could be early 70's. very good song)

crimson & clover-tommy james

she's come undun-the guess who

tighten-up-archie bell and the drells

my pledge of love-(can't remember who did this. someone help!)

and when i die-blood, sweat & tears'laura nyro opus

stony end-barbara streisand's laura nyro opus

everybody's talkin' at me-harry nielsson's midnight cowboy song

the look of love-sergio mendez & brazil 66. these guys kicked ass. they also did a dynamite latin take on the beatle's fool on the hill.

the white album-need i say more?

steven

nice poster on the front page of the official dan site, wouldn't mind having that in the music room.

Watching all this ticket thing go down, you'd think suddenly half the people here have forgotten how to get concert tickets for themselves. Why did it suddenly get so impossible/tough just because D&W tried to help? I mean it was always tough but it seems like the official site trying a nice gesture made everyone expect a personal individual escort to their seat in the first 20 rows, center.

I did the password thing and it worked out ok, not great, but I didnm'[t expect great (not everybody can get great, even during a early sale). My cousin tried first hour of the general sale day and did almost as well. IMHO only greatly puffed=up expectations would be so sour & disappointed or pissed at this year's tix situation

If It Don't Work Out (you can tell me goodbye)

First 3 CDs (1986): So- Peter Gabriel; The Nightfly - Donald Fagen; Jarreau - Al Jarreau
60s:
Come a Little Bit Closer - Gustav & Tristan (NOT)
Strange Brew - Cream
How Can I Be Sure - Rascals
Bus Stop - Hollies
Bring it on Home to Me - Sam Cooke
On Broadway - Drifters
In the Midnight Hour - Wilson Pickett
God Only Knows - Beach Boys
I Can See for Miles and Miles - Who
Think I'm Going Out of My Head - Little Anthony and the Imperials
Break on Through - Doors
Time of the Season - Zombies
Natural Woman - Aretha (unbelievable bridge)
Fortunate Son - CCR
Dedicated to the One I Love - Mommas and Poppas (John Philips is the most amazing vocal arranger)
Time (Boston band - blanked out)
Tell It Like It Is - Aaron Neville
If it Don't Work Out (you can tell me foodbye) - Can't remember: help!

This is the original fezzy from 96 era guestbook - ending the early ticket purchase plan for hardcore fans totally sucks. There is no logical good reason for this either. I don't mind paying 75.00 for a ticket but it better be a good seat or I'm not going.

Some Rock & Roll Please;

Mississipi Queen-Mountain

Rock & Roll Hoochykoo- Derringer

Layla- Clapton

Europa-Carlos

First CD's
Katy Lied
Little Feat-Waiting For Columbus
Clapton-461 Ocean Blvd.
Aja, when it came out.

Had to chip in my 2cents but when I got a turntable/8track I quit listening to the radio. Also enjoyed Tull, Supertramp, and the Beatles, of course. Later Talking Heads, Elvis Costello and The Clash and one vote for the English Beat. Guilty Pleasure, Marshall Tucker Band. Peace. G.E.

Guess I get to put my ticket buying skills to the test for real now....time will tell.

ole, Roy....see you in Raleigh?

Hutch, Roy....see you in Va. Beach?

Roy....sorry we missed out on the weekend of really good music and really cool friends, but our favorite Uncle "Sam", hit us harded than expected this year. Not used to dealing with capital gains, we'll know better in future years.

"all i need is a pint a day, if i ever get outta here..."

'60's
The Seekers "Needles & Pins"
Billy J Kramer & the Dakotas "Little Children"
The Outsiders "Time Won't Let Me"
Paul Revere & the Raiders " Kicks"
Original "Gloria" - Them - featuring Van Morrison
Love - anything off DaCapo
Left Bank "Pretty Balerina" Great minors!
Byrds "Eight Miles High"
The Who " The Kids Are All Right"
Young Rascals "You Better Run"

Pass me the geritol.

this just in from the Newsletter:

"We gave it a good go, but with Round II completed we are ending Early Purchase Periods for Steely Dan tickets. No more shows will be available for early purchase.

We apologize to those who were hoping for a shot at Early Purchase in future rounds. But we do believe this is for the best, and hope you understand."

so much for Raliegh or Virginia Beach eh???

KD, Earthbound, Industrial Midwesterners in general--All this '70s/Kings Island talk is triggering many Proustian reminiscences. Grew up in Columbus, living in Boston now. East coast is great, but the midwest is funky, no? KC jazz, Motown, Chaka Khan, Chicago blues...

I'm eyeing that Cincy date. Don't push me. I'll go. I will.

First LP? Chicago's Greatest Hits. That's if you don't count Countdown to Ecstasy, which I permananently borrowed from my sister.