SIS Archives -- April 2000

Ok...I have left everything Steely for the past 2 weeks...on purpose...no 2vN...no guestbook...no official site...etc...

I wanted to take a clean break and then come back to the album and see/hear the songs that REALLY stood out...you know, a real dumb guy's experiment!

Well...I'd say I did the right thing...the whole album really stood out and sounded so fresh and clean...

The tracks that hit me the most were:

* Title track
* Almost Gothic (my personal fav)
* And the one that stood out the most...drumroll please...Negative Girl!

Interesting huh, maybe the song that most of us warmed up to the slowest, yet now it overwhelmed me...what a song!

Jive!

PS Congrats to St. Al and Rudy on the new look website! It looks awesome (I would expect no less!)!

See you at The Gorge!

I actually made a point of going back to read Ms Turnbull's posts, that were, actually, kinda funny. I'm just glad to see someone else got a slam about only using three dots, Clas looking out for us all.

I gotta admit, Innocent One, the misspellings are freaking me out.

St. Al -- place looks awesome, streamlined, ready to rock. The frontpage is the best, quicker, easier to go through.

Ok, me and three other people can't remember where Turnbull is from, but I'm guessing 'Ramona' or some other Judy Blume masterpiece.

THE H IS O!

no!

Hi all!
Sououtrageous: I am still waiting for your personal reply to my last e mail. Where are you? I am sure you are a very busy guy though right now so i am waiting in the four winds- after all, haven't we been "trading fours" since the begining? Much love, and respect, chere

Steviedan: I sopke to my Uncle Jim Martin (drummer extraordinare) tonight. He remembers he thinks, doing an show with your store as the venue. Possibly Mercury Dime. Not sure. He is going to call you soon. I feel so happy just to
a) have my brother/uncle Jim meet YOU and you guys connecting and maybe some connections and gig energy will take place with eachother or through eachother especially as musicians in a place of the US where stuff is just blowing up. Joleen is a crowd he's been hangin with recently.
b) you get to meet my kinfolk and I get to hear ALL about you.
He said your store was one of the greatest around and you are so "holdin' it sown" independent style- a dying breed of record buying experience and discovery. Bless you for dat! Also many thanks to you for that sweet gesture of saying publicly that my e mail was "eloquent as always" and that you feel my posts are some of your favourite on the GB. That means SOOO much.Sououtrageous can tell you why that is.

Innocent One: Keep drinking in the DAN. Learn AJA by heart and go buy Pretzel Logic, listen to Charlie Freak. Any which way you can accomplish this. Also disect Katy Lied. These albums are so much more than MUSIC. They are baroque, masterful, and vivid. They teach and mentor, they tell fables, jokes and stir waters in your soul that will bring a smile to yo face chile'. And you will eventually discover, that all the albums tell a story that keeps going on and on, connectedly (is that a word?) spiraling and weaving a tapastry that tells the story of everyone's life. a story that helps you to even better understand the sources of this fine luxury we are so very blessed with. You will learn MUCH girlie girl.
Dragon: Thanks for noticing my post. I am one of those people that really disects things especially when it comes o wordlike stuff. Lyrics. My JUJU is a very serious gig for me and I call it JUJu affectionatly. But I am very learned in the religiona dn there are soooo many Hidden mysterious VouDoun/Santeria?candomble/Brujeria connotations throghout this album. it is complex, but i promise you all it will be worth the wat. That is, if Ole is cool with me covering more than one song on this subject. Thanks also for the wishes and mad love for my health and situations to improve. I may be sick, poor and destitute in every sense of the word right now, but my heart is SoOOOOOO full. Isn't that rich?

I want to also thank everyone else for reading my Eastertime posts and tollerating my Babylon Sista tendencies. All your personal e mails to me and public GB notations are so sweet and make me feel so proud of this our tribe of eccentric and wonderful Dan Fans. it also inspires and gives me the extra inertia energy I need right now to keep pushing on. May all that you have sent ME the past few weeks come back TENFOLD!!!!!

Peace Blessings and EVERYDAY HAVING A DAN EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!!Chere

Ok, I think we're almost done. I've only got a couple more (obvious) links to fix. The rest will shake out over time...

http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/

Chris: I forgot a lot of great bands, including WALTER BECKER, DONALD FAGEN and STEELY DAN. Ok, those are obvious, then there was Peter Gabriel, Neville Bros, The whole Lilith gang, a slew of "grunge bands," a thousand other jam bands (including the Spin Doctors), etc, ETC, ETCETERA... I came up with that list off the top of my head in 5 minutes.

Big Red: Regarding intellectually engaging music. That too is a matter of opinion. I disagree but I'm too lazy to argue right now...

Dragon: I love showing my Freudian slip -- especially to my wife and she loves the other Freudian foible from which I suffer from...

StAl

St Al and Razor Boy - no need to be envious, come down some year for a great time at Jazzfest

sunday highlights - great weather, fine fine ladies,
Brazillian Music, Funky Meters and Sting

Sting left his ego in check and was quite moving, he actually did 4 Police songs - Roxanne, Every Little ings about several things. I hate to see people hurt and i wasent targeting that at anyone at all! So please dont think that i went off! I just kinda have all these deep thoughts in my head and i wouldn't feel more comfterable any other place! Thanks everyone!

Hello everyone~ I hope we all had an awesome weekend!
Thank you for appologizing, Ms. Turnbull, thats cool that its all in good fun that you correct people, but people come on here and have fun and to talk, if you were relaxing and having a good time and someone kept on correcting you it would make you self conscience and it wouldn't make it as fun as before. That was the only thing that i was trying to point out to you because you wouldn't want to stop the fun! Thats what this is all about! Negative energy is something that is not a cool thing at all. You and EVERYONE in the world is very powerful! We must always remember that what we say, even though we may not realixe it, can have a major effect on people. I've seen what negative energy can do to people and in an envoirnment where everyone comes to feel safe and at home, it is always important to keep that healthy balance. Your words and the energy that you put out into the world will come back to you. I know that some of you maybe thinking that you cant believe that a teenager writes all of this and all of that, but you know, I'm constantly one to give off positive vibes. Well, i don't know, i hope anyway. But you know, i'm in high school so i totally see everything that goes on. I'm an observer and i think on a higher level than anyone i know. It's strange because even though there are other people like me in the world there is still so much crap that goes on. I would like to REMIND everyone that it is OK to speek out for whats right and what you believe in! Thank you all for reading my thoughts, I hope that you will all remember that your words are always important. Thank you all and have a great day. I will probably see you all tommorow!

No fishes here, sorry.

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While it's quiet, I'll take the opportunity to vent:
- To those who think tickets are expensive: It's a big band with chops, waddaya want? Jus be glad you can still check them out live.
- About the live note-for-note obsession: I hear the Steely Damned are good at that. Stick to Danventions.
- To those of you that don't like men and loathe the French, rest assured that I'm a french male and I take offense.
- To those who comment on the looks of the band: you still don't get it, do you?
- To those who got their CDs stolen: see what happens when you turn people on to the Dan?
'nuff said. Feel better now. Thank you.

Just surfed in. Was looking at the "rarities" section and noticed there were two albums that I have that are not listed(they are LP's)"You Gotta Walk It Like You Talk It"( that other soundtrack) and "Four Tracks from Steely Dan" an import.
Am I imagining that all you big time fans out there have never heard of these?
Send me an email!-Oh, and they're not for sale

chere: I’m sorry to hear about your illness. I hope you feel better soon. I’m not sure what’s ailing you but whenever I catch flu, get a cold, or come down with a nasty infection anywhere in my respiratory system I try to drink lots of echinacea tea, as hot and as strong as I can stand it with honey to sweeten it and little lemon or ginger root seem to help even more. But you probably already know the properties of the aforementioned items far more extensively than I do. Per your note to oleander, if you are talking about giving your own exegisis of 2vN well then BABBLE-ON SISTAH, share those fever dreams laced with your special brand of juju!! I think that would be some very interesting (and maybe even informative) reading. I certainly hope that those BOOMs you feel coming on are the good kind of booms.
Edd: Dr. Mu is apparently right on the money mentioning Bacharach in the same breath with BFF, in an interview on “Unauthorized Bio. of RM”they mention him as an influence. I would recommend the self titled album before “Whatever...”.
StAl: Your Freudian slip is showing.

Here Yea!

Re: Pine Knob

Although pavillion seats are sold out, lawn seats are still available at $25.00 face value.

Actually, a good value at that unless it rains! If so, be prepared for a mudfest! They don't allow umbrellas for obvious reasons. Ponchos recommended -- mine will be made of spangled "pleather" Gortex.

St Al- Congratulations on the new look for the page. It looks great! The graphics are beautiful-- be sure to pass the word along to the joker. Also, you've managed a first: the frames in the site are not annoying, they actually work well with the site! Kudos!

-Andy

Thanks to all who responded @ Hotlanta 7/18 show -the wife and I are going for both shows. I believe Ole is going sans hubby also ?

Who else ?

Sounds like the makings of a great Danfest.

Micheal McDonald???????????

like wow........

Q

Greetings all.

Looeez- Thanks for the kind words. I do however feel that I must mention that the listbot was not my idea, those kudos belong to Hoops! and StAl I believe. I am simply an over zealous fan who couldn't wait to "get the party started." It was a fabulous idea to get everyone involved like that. Can't wait to meet you on that Lucky Sunday.

YGK & others-I also enjoy King Crimson, although the only album I have is Three of a Perfect Pair. I also have a tape of Robert Fripp and Andy Somer(The Police) doing some incredible things. When is the new album due?

Wormian one-It sounds like your jazz fest is really swingin'. I am envious of you for having the Radiators in your hometown. The are one of the groovin'est (???) bands around. The play up here frequently at a place called Shank Hall(anyone know where that names from?) but I have yet to be able to see them. Enjoy making trails in the soil with your tail!

Gotta go now be back with more later.

Yes, there's gas in the car.

Peace Love and DAN

Razor

Ok, I'm in the process of making the switch over to the new website. Over the next few days you may notice broken links, dead pages, missing images, etc. Please bare with while the changes take place.

When the site does go live you'll be able to click on the "home" link above to access it.

DJ Mitch: Of course, my take was meant to be humorous. Although IMO you shouldn't take the meaning of the song at face value everytime. It's no fun. For example: "Who makes the traffic interesting?". Most people picture heavy petting while stuck in traffic. Right? Now let's consider that the narrator is alone with Da Kine Bud and just happens to be reflecting on such an obvious everyday thing as traffic while zoned out. In fact, shouldn't you worry, knowing the Dan, that the song is too obvious? Here's another lead: the word "marijuana" was originally coined in spanish so it has its birthday in Spain. Naturally.
Gotta go. I'm starting to freak myself out with this thing. The bets are on for Friday morning. I say they kick off with Janie Runaway and, if there's another one, Gaslighting Abbie (here's one that sounds quite sinister if you take it too litterally as we know it is not about setting your spouse on fire with a gas lighter. Or is it? ;-) Ciao.

Jolly Roger....the official site had a drawing for registered newsletter recipients and I was one of the lucky ones....many thanks again to SDWebDrone, Walter & Donald.

Twinkie
additives- YES! Somebody who recondnised the Spin Doctors!

I have to say, Steely Dan is my second favorite band. Spins are first on the list.

But they are very different, so it's hard to compare them.

Speaking of Spin Doctors, I know I shouldn't do this, but--

"Visit my Spin Doctors page for all the latest news and updates."
http://fly.to/SpinDoctors

Q; Why would you think they might cut one Atlanta show?

Midnite Cruiser; How did you score free tickets?

St Al: You forgot the Spin Doctors! I know some of their older stuff sucked, but they're extremely un-popular new stuff is awesome.

Andy: I did the same thing with my Tweeter center tix. None yet.

I just bought Katy Lied, remastered, at Borders. I'm trying to buy every album on CD, and because I don't like a lot of the music on shelves now (and I call myself a teen! Honestly!) so whenever I go there I pick up some Dan. Does anybody know what the scoop is with Gaucho (sp?)? I know it's not remasterd, but I can't find the disc anywhere.

Why is it that Steely Dan's most discussing and sick songs take place in a major key? "Everyone's gone to the movies", "Hey Nineteen" (well at least the ending)and more.

::soon you will be a teen
I think you know what I mean
don't tell your momma
your daddy
your momma
they'll never know where you've been
come on::

Black Minnie: I want my skirt returned to me Immediamente...I think you pinched it without my knowledge. My paramour and partner in crime will also be very upset that it's missing.

Q and Atlanta folks: I got series tix at Chastain for Joni and SD for the first night through the venue-direct purchase. The public is to be offered (or so was said) the remaining first night seats and then Ticketmaster is handling the second night, probably not available yet? Am I Deludin?

DJMitch: appreciate the sentiment below re: the spouse.

c mia

Red Blazer: Janie Runaway has nothing to do with drugs and everything to do about sex..itis an excellent piece,love the Sax and funky bass........The Libby bashing is a outtahand, she is pretty and she did have a couple releases with some heavyweights for that time period,accusing her of being a groupie is wrong. Libby came from the same College and obviously shared the same cultural backround.......

Michelle: Please enlighten me as to how ) :-) iM sooooo sorrE if my post created any negative energy :-( i don’t like to hurt any body, ‘cause like SD sings to Peg “it will come back to you”!!!! most of the people on the GB
are like, well, really used to like really uptight sort of people correcting each other all in good fun!!! Sometimes we all agree so much that the only fun we can have is like gnitPicking on each others like petty (oops, I mean like little itty bitsy silly willy) mistakes! haha!!! BTW, FYI-- Clas will probably (if he hasn’t already) let you no it’s three dots, not four!!!! he’s really got a thing for those three dots!!!

I agree with AGNG and steviedan. I’m also share part of the not so innocent one’s problem. I had some of my favortie CDs stolen (among many other things) and most of the ones stolen were SD CDs. I’m am to put in in PC terms “financially challenged” so
replacing them will not be easy, it’s been over a year and I still haven’t completely replaced them. result: I haven’t heard some really great SD tunes in a while. I’ll spare
you all the sad details, bottomline is I know that there are people who would willingly do what one (hopefully) well intentioned person here has offered to do for Michelle. In their
defense, if what Michelle says is true then she has already paid SD by purchasing the CDs before, BUT, just about everyone hear has purchased at least one recording twice, either to replace a lost, stolen or damaged item or in a new format. My advice Michelle? Bite the bullet and buy new ones, do without until then or borrow a legit copy from a friend. You had something stolen from you, don’t try to solve the problem by steeling
from someone else.

StAl- You missed Beck, Johnny Lang, Macy Gray, Spin Doctors, Toad the Wet Sprocket, Joan Osborne, Kenny Wayne Sheppard, Better Than Ezra, Eddie Brickell, Seal, Foo Fighters, Jamiroquai, BFF, Radiohead, Live, Smashing Pumpkins and Fiona Apple (okay, okay...so her MUSIC isn't too great but read her LYRICS.)

Point being that NOBODY compares to Steely Dan, as we all can attest. However, in the great spacious vacuum that is modern music there are some artists that don't completely suck.

SD Webdrone....thanks again to you, Walter & Donald for the free tickets opportunity....my wife and I shall enjoy them immensely!!

Is Michael McDonald still singing in the Atlanta shows?...anyone?

Anyone know if they are still doing 2 shows in Atlanta or have they cut to one ?

the first show sold out in 10 seconds!

Q

Yo fellow danheads!Looks like the guys will be playing right in front of Dean and Deluca next friday morning on the Today show. Gee, I wonder what they'll play. By the way, Janie Runaway seems to have an interesting soft drug subtext if you consider that what "makes tonight a wonderful thing" can also "rescue a dreary sunday", make you feel like doing spontaneous fun stuff like sailing again or impersonnating Sinatra or even give you a case of the "munchies" ("Let's grab some take out from Dean and Deluca!"). Sounds like the workings of some fine Hawaiian Bud. You see Melanie is a friend of the weed and she's not afraid to try new things. But would that be a federal case? In fact, if you play the song backwards (which you can't, at least not until the vinyl is out) Janie Runaway becomes Mary Juana. No shit.

St Al: Maybe what the guy means to say is that he thinks there has been no signs of intellectually engaging musical offerings lately and on that point I can't disagree with him. Sure we've had our share of good grooves and occasionnal chops display but that is not all that rock music was about to begin with. Thanks for the opportunity to post. See ya.

A friend of mine has just given me a copy of "Nixon" by Lambchop. Sounds great, wonderful music, and lyrics which are almost as sharp and funny as the Dan. Recommended.

Chere - in WPB i'm 7th row center section seat 25&26 currently but may shift up in next couple days. I'll let you know.

Are you coming to the TPA show and Danfest ?

We are up to ..........8-10 locals, 6 "out of towners"

Q

...make that ratio "far too 'low'". I've occasionaly made it thru 3 towns without hearing any music while driving to work.

re: Dr. Mu

...and so I hang my head in shame, being still among the BFF deprived.

In spite of the fact I live near a major radio market (Boston), the diversity of radio stations I can use to "audition" new music is fairly shallow. Adsurdly so. There's a ton of rock stations in various flavors, but during the time when I *can* tune in (mostly drive time, argh) the ratio of music to crap (commercials, inane DJ chatter) is far too high. I get two 45 minute blocks of uninterupted listening time a day, and I try to put it to good use. There a a couple good "real" jazz stations and one commercial classical. We had a "smooth jazz" station for a time, but it died. Too bad. There was the standard dreck, but you could also hear lots of SD alumni (Sample, Scott, etc.)

...and I'll be the first to admit, I'm getting old. Rock (in all its permutations) just doesn't speak to me as it once did.

But I will try BFF!!!

Dear Herb aka erb,

Don't forget your "Stella Stevens or Steely Dan?" workbook. I'll make sure your time is well spent.

Rescuing a Dreary,

Black Minnie

Minnie: I can't believe someone has as much free time as me. May I set up my gear?

Herb "erb" Tea

and a big "how-dee" back at you KD!

I just wanted to add that I just love being in the car and all of a sudden........ "I Love Music" by the Ojays comes on. It not only gets me singing LOUD and strong, but makes me remember all the great all kinda music that be out dere.
I Love
I Love
I Love
I Love
I Love MUSIC..................-chere

Hello all! Happy Sunday morning to you it's 1:20 am my time.
The days events for Chere. I have this friend Cassandra. I met her through her Aunt who works in the building I live in. She is an LPN in school to become an RN. Very cool chick. Has two kids.Tyler 6 and Yosylyn 8. This weekend we had planned to go to this great gig in South Florida hosted by the local "ol Skool R&B station called "Family Reunion". It is an all day affair that has a bunch of old skool bands grooving, every year. Of course in this city, there is NO way I could attend that kind of a show being such a lily white looking chick. I learned this first hand last time I tried to have a go of it last year. I was so jazzed to have my soul sista friend to go wit to get my SWERVE on in serious FASHION. Of course as you all know (I've bitched enough about it) I am still sick as hell with this damn bug. Well turns out she got it too and we could not attend. She called me later this afternoon crying because her car broke down on the highway on the way back from the doc, as Yosylyn was sick too. She had walked MILES with her kids (she has no family here and is struggling like many of us) to get home to call me and just vent. I said "where the fuck's your car?" She told me on the side of I95 (a road of carnage and other bad things) So I got out my trustee AAAPlus card and we got that bugger towed to her mechanics place. We waited 2 1/2 hours for AAA to come. We had three Cd's in the car. Milenium FUNK party (which is really killer by the way/Rhino Records) Earth Wind and Fire Best of Vol. I, and Aja. Tyler wears little John Lennon specs and favors Branford Marsalis. Because we missed out on the whole "family reunion gig" and she was tripping out so bad, I slipped in the funk mix first and brought her some flowers and OJ from the farmers market and sweetcakes because I heard these kids had no easter OR birthday ALL in the same week. Brick House is the first song on the CD. These kids sang their hearts out and Tyler was singing into the speaker real loud. They knew every word to every song. There we were, parked on the side of the highway cars FLYING by, singing and clapping in da car. I turned everyone onto AJA tonight in that car and man, what an experience. After three listens , we were all singing Black Cow and Josie at the top of our lungs. I have hooked three new DanFans. Feelin' mighty proud about dat. I met a future jazz artist, Tyler who beat skins and played chunky air horn. Yosylyn did most of the real soulful vocals with a magazine for the mike, loves the AJA cover art and wants to be an actress. And Cassandra wondered aloud where the hell was she while Steely Dan was making and (still is) music. The four of us in a very dangerous part of town havin some "Church.... Dan Propa". Tyler asked did I have MORE Steely dan Cd's at MY house, and had me write the name down on a paper for his next trip to Wal Mart.Amazing what a "Little Dan" can do. That and telling a few lies to AAA.
Nuff said.

steviedan: I am SOOOO Sooo glad you got my drift and understood where I was really coming from. Ironically just tonight I learned of the whole MP3 thing.I do not watch too much TV. Hardly ever- don't even now why I have one. I will look forward to hearing fro you propa like soon. Thanks so much for the love and the reflection.peace

Sooutrageous:I bet your out having a fabulous time and drinking a ZOMBIE being born again my friend celebrating the very idea that you will be right up in it. The EL SUPREMO IN THE ROOM IN THE FRONT OF THE STAGE I am sooooo excited for you. I will e mail you propa like after I hear from you. Mass JUJU to you darling and then some.

Innocent One: Thanks for the e mail, I'll be in touch. Seems I've learned a valuable lesson about the piracy that goes on in this world. Very genorous offers indeed for fellow fans to help you in acquiring a collection. The linear notes ARE halarious. Drink in as much Steely Dan as you can and you will live well. Das a promise girl.

Q: I WILL be attending the WPB show.Where will you be? I will be from what I gather, in the orchestra section. My hottest of fever dreams will occur at that moment. If you've never been to Mars Music venue it is cool. Very open and airy and great sound.

Much love to you all.

ONE LOVE.

STEELY DAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

chere

Chiming in here on the "whether there's been any good music since XXXX" (pick a year, any year) thread -- let me reframe the issue at least the way it affects me personally.

I do recognize that there are all sorts of talented groups and individuals out there who have been making good music all along. My problem may simply be that I have way idiosyncratic tastes. I appreciate and respect all sorts of music, but the stuff that really spins my propeller has to have a certain sensibility. The Dan may be the one single group going that has ever hit that sensibility right in the bullseye--noirish, ascerbic, ironical, intelligent, bluesy, swinging, and virtuosic (is that last one a word? it is now!). The simple fact is that there are precious few other performers out there, however great, that do all of those same things in such a way that they succeed in satiating that personal musical jones of mine the way the Dan do. There are many that cover enough of those things that they at least asuage the hunger a little bit. Most recently, our buddy Diane turned me on to Morphine (the group, not the drug, folks!) and made me very happy. Macy Gray has also turned me on, as has local heros Maktub. Somewhat further afield, I've always reliably gotten thrills out of Peter Gabriel, Kate Bush, Elvis Costello, David Byrne ... but somehow for me the musical thrills, while still buy-able, are getting fewer and further between ...

IMO musical taste, like love, is just an incredibly idiosyncratic thing, and that's all there is to it. There's a ton of stuff I've listened to, where I find myself thinking "oh, they're doing that so nice, they're really really good, there's every reason I should be liking this group a helluva lot more than I do, but ... I just don't. I dunno why." But then, every once in a blue moon, there's a song that comes on the radio that makes my head snap around in a classic double take, and jolts me into phoning the DJ and blurting "Who the hell was that? I need to know NOW!" That jolt of musical love-at-first-sight, which seemed to be happening to me every other week during the 1970s through mid-1980s, has maybe happened about a dozen times total in the 1990s. And I kinda miss it. Thass'all, boss.

/The Mam'zelle
just another music/love junkie

hello.

After running the Chicago Trifecta, Toronto and Cleveland, The Dan will ride the crest of a wave through the bucolic Northeast corner of our fair Keystone State.

Then,
July 1. Upstate New York for Donald, Walter and Steely Dan. Saratoga in July.

Barrytown. Home At Last.
lh.

Daddy G -- I agree. On the surface my post may have seemed a tad bit acerbic? However, it most definitely wasn't directed at you. Sorry about that.

This brings up a problem that has always occurred on this guestbook, or any other computer based method of communication, which is how to express yourself. Specifically, how do you express yourself without offending someone else, yet still drive a point home? It's tough. Really tough. Unless you have a Buckley-like vocabulary and a whole lot of time on your hands.

I'll use an example. A few posts ago I made a comment about the guitar playing of Tim Reynolds, and in this post I said "I doubt anyone on this board could even aspire to be in this guys league." Yikes! In hindsight that was a backhand to all the great guitar players on this board, but it absolutely wasn't my intention. I simply wanted to make the point that Reynolds is an amazing guitar player. The problem I have is I tend to type the same thoughts I would speak if you were standing right in front of me, without the dynamics of body language, inflection and my ability to speak at over 300 words a minute... You can do a lot of backpedaling...

Same old story, really. So here's what I try to do whenever I read a post. I look at the post and actively think "glass-is-half-full." In other words, before I make the assumption someone is trying to say something negative, I always try to think positive. Doesn't always work, and very often I fall victim to negative volleys. However, this is another part of my personality. I love a good debate. If someone says something I disagree with, I'll let you know. I expect the same. And I don't beat around the fucking bush, either. I'm a passionate guy. What can I say? I often talk with foot squarely inserted in mouth, but I rarely have regrets and I'll apologize when I'm wrong, which I never am... (remember that mr "..")

There have been a couple of themes which appear from time to time that really get me going. One of them is the "There hasn't been any good music since [insert any date preceding 1990 here]." This is a ridiculous statement and I pity the fool who thinks this.

I AM NOT SAYING YOU Daddy G.

Another, of course, is the old musicians vs. new musicians debate.

Wormtom -- you lucky dog, you. N.O. is the only major city I've never been to and it's on my list.

Minor -- I'm watching you pal.

StAl

off to the office to take a quick head dunk and refuel

new orleans is cooking

today's highlights - Brian Lee, George Porter , Marcia Ball and Cowboy Mouth
(run don't walk and get a CM cd if you have never heard them)

dancing the proverbial worm ass off and da ladies like it

off to see the radiators

I love this town

the pearl left the quarter and is at the fairgrounds in replendant divergence

cheer e o

Tster

IMHO, this is insane.

Hoaxy, dubious, but very entertaining!

In
My
Humble
Opinion ; )

Dr Mu- WHOA! are you serious? how much does that rule? i can't wait till i get to get all the albums. How cool, and i kinda like that because they were remastered in my generation, and as you know, when can't buy a thrill came out i wasent' even close to being born, i mean my dad and mom were still young! But wow, i'm so excited to start looking. I feel dumb asking but what does IMHO mean anyway?? I've seen it all over, sorry i'm new at this lingo stuff! :) talk to you later

Hey Trifecta gang!

Sent an attachment to our hosts which included name of hookup in Clarkston (Pine Knob):

Clarkston Union Bar & Kitchen
54 South Main Street
Clarkston, MI 48346

Website: http://www.ddwindows.com/classes.htm

See Yahoo Maps for interactive maps and driving directions.

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Innocent One: Over the past year or so Can't Buy a Thrill, Countdown to Ecstacy, Pretzel Logic, Katy Lied, Royal Scam, and Aja have all been newly remasted by Roger Nichols with Walter and Donald. There are hilarious new liner notes with these as an extra bonus. Since you were not aware of this, think of it as a unique educational opportunity. All six remasters are sonically superior to theor predecessors IMHO. You should have many hours of excitement ahead!!

Hi everyone! Hope you all are having a great day/ weekend~

DrMu- Walmart huh? yeah i think that i'm going to order some off the internet and i'm going to try to find some in the stores but i already have Aja and i think that thery've only remastered that one! like you said we are awaiting Gaucho

Chere- Hey whats up? Thank you for the offer! Sometimes i play cds in the Dvd players too! I'm so very careful about on who i ask for things so i think that i am going to try to find as many cd's as possible and try to buy them and if i cant then i will let you know. Thank you so much for the offer! oh, yeah i didn't really listen to home at last but it's slowly becoming one of my favorites. I LOVE IT!!!

Razor boy- Welcome home!

EDD- yeah your right, what i told Chere above is that i'm going to look around as much for a 1st edition copy and then if i don't find one ill let anyone know!

CaraMia- no, thats so nice of you but its really not neccessary! i was just really pissed when the albums like Gaucho and Katy Lied dissapered! Well they weer stolen. I AM FOR REAL~!! why does everyone keep saying that?? Is there a way that i could prove to everyone?? I will send you a pic through e-mail to prove it to you!

JWMalibu- hey, your coming to the hootiere too?? wow i get so excited each time i hear about someone coming!!

OMIO- Thanks for your edvice! I will definitly try that!

Talk to everyone later! I am real darnet!! hehe! Later
Michelle/IO

OMIO ~ Terry Haggerty was playing recently with Steve Kimock in his now-defunct band KVHW, which featured Kimock (guitars,including steel), Bobby Vega (monster bassman), Alan Hertz (a very young, hugely-talented drummer), and Ray White (vocals--formerly of Frank Zappa). Haggerty and Kimock were incendiary together; the five of these guys together was definitely some of best music I've ever had the pleasure of hearing. Did you get a chance to catch any of this? Kimock and Vega are currently playing in the Steve Kimock Band, which includes Pete Sears and Prarie Prince. I'm listening to a CD from 2/18/00 Great American Music Hall right now. That was a great show--actually an incredible president's weekend. Two shows there, then two at the Cal-Neva Resort on the north shore of Lake Tahoe. They are playing in Colorado right now; back at the GAMH July 7,8, and 9.

Andy ~ My Shoreline tickets were ordered online through TM on April 9th. I received them on April 26th. I've had it take much longer with them before. Now, Row M...that's interesting. Reminds me of the amplifier in Spinal Tap that goes to eleven. Well, it's one more, in'it? Maybe they are putting in a special row of recliners. Wouldn't that be nice, hmmm? Not familiar with that particular venue, so I can't help you there. Have fun!

Anyone get West Palm tix ?

I'm there.

TAMPA on sale tomorrow for any FL Danfestians...........

Q

StAl:

I'm sensing a little hostility along with your five-minute list of quality music. I wasn't saying there *hasn't been* any good music since 1993. Of course there has. I was merely agreeing with the comments Edd (I think it was Edd) made several weeks ago. He mentioned that he didn't have the time/patience/whatever to plow through all the stuff on the radio in order to find the good stuff. I remember thinking at the time ... "Yeah, me too." The thing is, StAl, you have to take into account that not everybody in the world has the kind of life that affords them the time to experience music to the extent that you have. Babies get born. Spouses become disabled and require special care. Work takes precedence over entertainment. Sleep becomes a luxury. I also think you are probably blessed with some decent radio stations. The ones around here are not what they once were, I'm afraid.

But I do appreciate the list and will try to broaden my musical experience, starting today.

Andy:
Rest assured, I have the exact same problem. Got seats for Merriweather, went cheap, opted for the "within two weeks" deal and haven't seen my tickets. According to my bank statement, however, TicketBastard sucked the $170+ out of my account. They were very efficient about that.

OMIO:
Jesse Cook? Try http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ts/artist-glance/109073/qid=957035761/ref=s_pm_rart1/103-8962273-1014254

AGNG: Oh yes.. The Sons Of Champlin.. Haggerty was the guitarists that other guitarists would pay to see.. TOP & The Sons cross-pollinate.. Mic Gillete, for example..
YGK knows a little about my personal connection to The Sons..
Or, Almost connection, as it turned out..
Good call, there..
Hey Innocent One.. One thing you can get from hanging out here is a musical education second to None! Follow the links, kiddo..
And see just how deep the rabbit hole goes..
There's a Wonderland of music out there.. I'm looking up Jesse Whathisname.. Is there a website for him?

Edd: and...so? I'd start with their last and work myself back. Whatever used to be my fave, but the first one may be more satsfying song by song although the diversity between songs and WITHIN songs is incredible. They cover or cram the last 100 years of great American music into something unique...err the "b--" thing - Ben Folds is on his 3rd wife by a little past 30 - probably runs both ways...
StAl: Wow - didn't know you were a Los Lobos fan - great stuff. Kiko and How Will the Wolf Survive - great stuff also. Gotta love REM Automatic for the People and Neville Bros. as well. I like the Teas-based Sixpence None the Richer singles - but haven't listened to the album.

StAl has provided a very solid list there and of course it goes on. If you only got your recommendations from this GB you would be checking out some fantastic music. Back up a bit, out from the veil of nostalgia, and there is always wonderful music in the continuum. You really can't even keep up with it if you try. I'm not sure about Cowboy Junkies though, mmmm.

Here in NC we are fairly proud of Chapel Hill's Ben Folds Five. I agree with the previous comments, however I prefer ther first album. My only problems with them are a: Their gratuitous use of the phrase "you bitch" on at least one song per album (Ben musta been hurt alot by chicks) and b: Them pissing Burt Bacharach off on his tribute special by kicking in the fuzz box on the bass during their cover of "Raindrops". By the way, Barenaked Ladies were on the same special. It was awesome for fans of Bacha's music. I got Gordon (BNL Album) when it was first released and was running all over town going "This is the shit". About 4-5 years later, they're massively popular. Call me Col. Tom Starmakermachinery. It was all me !!

Chere: I could never mean any ill will to you or Innocent. That's why I didn't name any names. You are obviously both great people with wonderful spirits. It's just that the whole issue of "burning" (CDs that is heH heh) and MP3s is a Trojan horse on the music industry. I've had people brag to me that they NEVER BUY music anymore. Hey, it's all FREE on the internet. So are groceries at the store if you steal them. Anyway, I got your eloquent (as always) e-mail and I'll write you a line sometime later today or tonight. Thanx for writing.

Everyone have a great weekend.

Here is a short list of performers putting out quality music since "1993"

Phish, Aquarium Rescue Unit, Dave Matthews Band, Allman Brothers, Lyle Lovett, Paperboys, Wallflowers, Red Hot Chili Peppers, REM, Rusted Root, Wilco, Sun Volt, Boz Scaggs, Lenny Kravitz, Soundgarden, The Sundays, Metalica, Megadeth, Pearl Jam, Squirrel Nut Zippers, Southern Culture on the Skids, Big Head Todd & the Monsters, Widespread Panic, Blues Traveler, Black Crowes, The Boneshakers, Cowboy Junkies, Ben Harper, Bruce Hornsby, Los Lobos, King Crimson, John Mellencamp, James McMurtry, Me'schell N'degeocello (sp?), Willis, Tom Waits, Peter Himmelman, Indigo Girls, Beth Orton, Counting Crows, John Hiatt, BoDeans, etc, ETC, ECETERA.

That took me 5 minutes. How many did I miss? At least as many as I remembered...

JW -- e-mail me with all the info on your GT: stalfnzo@seanet.com

EDD -- Yes, Ann is correct. However, I understood you..

Got a question for all attending the Merriweather and Nissan shows: have you got your hard-copy tickets from Ticketmaster yet? I went cheap and told them to send them to me through the mail "within two weeks". Needless to say, I haven't received them yet. Anyone else having similar problems?

Also, got my VA Beach tickets today-- they're awesome. Orchestra section 2, row M. Strangely enough, the seating map shows that Orchestra section 2 only has rows A-L. Anyway, the tickets sound like they're good-- whether or not the seats actually exist is another story altogether.

-Andy

Amen, YGK...

Aja/Stranger ~ I've got the basic page(s) templates done for the Southern California Hooteries ~ please e-me with any details as they firm up. I'll add info/links myself as well. The url is: www.thekatbox.com/casellastudio/schoots.htm

StAl ~ If you could link that page to your schedule, it would be much appreciated, bro!

You guys never cease to amaze me. Dr. Mu, Edd: I too have found it difficult (futile is perhaps a better word) plowing through new music to find the nugget or two that I like. Besides TvN, I own maybe three CDs that came out post 1993. They would be the two Ben Folds Five albums you mentioned and one Barenaked Ladies (Rock Spectacle). I know ballah will probably rip me a new one for liking "mainstreamers" like that, but so be it. I realize Barenaked Ladies are probably this year's Hootie and the Blowfish, and therefore totally uncool, but that shouldn't diminish "Brian Wilson" or any of the other great songs on Rock Spectacle.

Uh-oh ... almost forgot. I also own three Jesse Cook CDs -- really good Spanish-style guitar.

re: Any Hollywood...

I'm "finally" wrong?

You must be very excited thinking you're the one who "finally" bested me. But read again. I never stated definitively it was her. I said I believed it was. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Life goes on. Me being wrong is about as uncommon as sunrise.

However, feel free to revel in your glory.

re: BFF

They've been recommended to me often enough, by people who's taste I trust, that I should have at least tried them by now.

Edd: Regarding your request a week or so ago about newer pop music - based on the lists of fav songs I would have to suggest Ben Folds Five's "The Unauthorized Biography of Reinhold Meissner." Without being deliberate, this work is more reminiscent of the 60s and 70s songs you love without being deliberately retro. Like that romantic period (in the art sense not the Valentine) the melodies are lyrical and the feeling full as Ben Folds follows his muse as usual. Beautiful songs with a touch of Bacharach. This album is more cohesive and less quirky than the first, but not less brilliant, two album: eponymous and Whatever and Ever Amen. Great piano lead, innovative bass of the Entwhistle/McCartney lead idea but something different. Good use of orchestral and horn accents. BFF have a great sense of humor.
Limitations: the drumming is energetic and intricate, but could have better chops. Ben Folds voice is pleasant but a bit thin and off-key occasionally. I find it quite appealing though.

Edd- You're finally wrong. That was NOT Libby Titus at the Story Tellers show.

I will buy Innocent One a Steely Dan CD to replenish her collection and bring it as a San Diego beach-warming gift , because I too don't cotton to the trend of stealing sounds.
Have not downloaded MP3 and don't plan to.

Michelle, which fine work do you desire?
(Don't say the Boxed Set!!!) :-)

I hope you really are a teen-spirited, Dan-lovin' girl and not some figment pulling our collective chains.
Aja, is she for real?

cara mia, looking for my quad skates to bring to San Diego

.....I always loved the concept of 'Used Weights' for sale in the backs of newspapers. Somehow the free weight isn't as valuable since it has been lifted....
And interestingly enough - the more you 'lift' intellectual property, the less 'valuable' the property becomes.....
buy a fucking CD....
Good morning!

ygk

If you're willing to pay for a CD-R, why in the world would you not buy a legit copy? I regularly see Aja for $6-7.00 Less used.

During the Story Tellers show, the camera cuts a number of times to an attractive woman in the audience. Dark hair. Beautiful smile.

I believe she's Libby Titus.

steviedan- If your'e still looking for the great drummer out there... I am totally serious, e mail me propa and I'll give you his ph # in Salisbury NC near YOU. He is DA DRUMMIN PERCUSSION MAN. He LIVES his drums and has played since he was like 5 or something. Before I was born anyway. He's so great and I am sooo not being biased here, he plays on anything, the car dashboard, the wall, his chest, my bongos, his chest, whenever drums are not accessible and he sings too. AND from what I understand Mercury Dime is No More, and when he was at my crib at Christmas he was feeling like trying somwhere else musically to get in. Bandwise I mean- some new dudes to jam with. Ceiling Zero is a side gig project and he has some other thing too. All that AND a job. AND All that Musician politics you guys go thru. Hope you got my drift in the personal e mail. Big props! Mean it Nuff said! -chere

steviedan- check your e mail.
I see 'tis only us two holdin it down in the wee hours. maybe we should oraganize a late nite chatting session sometime.
peace- chere

Barney: Confirm: Can you spell D-I-N-(O)-S-A-U-R ?

Please return to the Limp Bizkit site....now go on.

Even when I am able to have a free promo copy of a CD by an artist I love, I will give it to someone else and purchase a copy for myself. I want the Steve Morses, Alan Holdsworths, Chris Potters of the world to be able to continue making music. Support it with your $$$$. Even supreme love for it will not keep it alive.

I'm not sure that AGNG's ten ton hint is being scooped by the folks continuing the "burning" conversation.

Now I'm sure to many of us, D&W are just bigtime millionaires and not in need of our dimes. I'm sure that if you were able to ask them, they would tell you that those dimes floated the boat for many years and still do. I'm sure that to them, the thought of us networking with each other here to pirate or burn copies of their music would make them visibly wince. And it should. Lesser artists with lower sales and networking fans will be Darwinized by the internet and piracy. Lost sales mean less tours, options not renewed. I know record companies are corporate evil embodied often, but that is the distribution route chosen (or hoist upon) for now by artists such as our boys.

I'm sure nobody here means anything but pure brother/sistahood offering to Share the Dan (didn't the guess who do that song), but for musicians who have to eat and put kids through college, it would not be cool. Sure, stuff that is not commercially available like radio shows, even bootleg live stuff IMHO is AOK. But to burn people copies of AJA ? Please give the boys their dimes. It's not too much to ask, particularly for regular post toasties like you guys. How much joy have they given you ? Pay 'em for god's sake, it's their living.

confirm("do you like dinasaurs?")

ps ~ I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy, but unfortunately in my case, it's too late...

Danger on the Rocks/Home at Last has always been very high on my list of favorites. (Listening to WOH via headphones right now, and Mr. Potter is distracting me. Darn him ; ) I remember a beautiful summer afternoon on Lake Tahoe, cruisin' in a good friend's boat, pulling into Emerald Bay and avoiding the rocks while this particular song blasted from his speakers. Our smiles were huge and so were everyone's passing by. I was with my younger brother, a drummer, who had enlightened me to the Dan, at about the same time I turned him on to the Dead. It was one of those moments that will never be forgotten.

Anyway, dare I repeat myself?

Today's vocabulary lesson: Copyright infringement. Look it up if you have to. Good luck.

Jazzfest is well in full swing

wow
this afternoon saw Gatemouth Brown, Dr John and the Allman Bros.
and the women coming up and asking to dance with the wurling dervish was quite nice

ahh back tommorrow and sunday for mo crawfish monica

almost got there, almost got there, almost gothic

Diego it is. I plan to attach myself to some crome bumper somewhere and hitch the big interstates

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy

wormboytoy

Whew! I made it, HOME AT LAST.

I've been Abby Normal for a few days but I am sloowly regaining my strength. Couldn't manage to type but I could scroll, a couple of very interesting days here, lots to talk about.

I only have one real meaningful item in regards to Mr. Poot,

Even though I'm certain that his Hot Wheels pc (you've all seen the ad's, right?) will be unable to locate this site again, let me just say (with a nod to Mrs. Turnbull) "if you don't have any thing nice or coherent to say, keep your trap shut!" Perhaps a little more baby powder next change might help.

I'll be Back soon.

Good evening to all and....

Peace, Love and DAN

Razor

Hello to all! Glad to feel all of the joy and excitement as the shows get closer and closer to each and every one of you. So cool. I am still sick as hell. This one is a real bugger for me. The nasty kind of bug you get once every few years, that kinda knocks at your door and says "Prepare for battle! "No warning, BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

Sooutrageous: check your e mail when you get time. I feel a big BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM comming on...... Like one time, my 'brothers" gave me a real stick of dynamite for my sixteenth birthday and we went out to this old ghosttown place west of Homestead "In da woods" and blew it up. I think that area was washed away by Hurricaine Andrew. But Oh, it was sweet time then. Such an appropriate gift for a JUJU girl born on the fourth of July.

Innocent one: We have a burner- I can burn whatever you want to disc. That goes for anyone else too. Remember too, that if you have a DVD, and use it to play discs because your CD player died, (ours did) a burned disc copy will sometimes not work in them. Just for FYI. Home At Last is one of my Faves too. Especially that "scat" part in it. Makes me feel like George Benson when I sing along. And the chunky phat horns Gawd!!!! Make me wanna holler!

Steviedan: I think my uncle is touring right now, I tried calling him- I am the ONLY connection to him in our family. Specially with my lil sis geting married and everything, everyone is gahtering for the first time in one spot KEY MOTHER FUCKING WEST BY GOD in twenty years. It will be so great. Everyone has been Blowing up my phone and answ machine looking for him. But he feels me strong, he'll call me at three AM within the week from some LOUD gig somewhere to share his energy. And I will smile........he will feel like Jesus, as musicians often do after a good gig. My Little Drummer Boy.......Who else do you know out of NC gigging? Just curious.

Ole: I have'nt forgotten you. Just so much going on right now with me. I must say, there are connotations in more songs than just Two vs Nature. What are your thoughts on this? I mean I feel it all over the new album. My fever dream would be long and very descriptive. Is that cool? Let me know.

I am foggy with my "remedies" so I will sign off for now. My JuJu flowing strong for all my fellow brethren and sistren in the world of everything "DAN".

Blessings, chere

"..Garcia, on a good night, was one of the Best, Ever!"

Amen.

Tower of Power, another wonderful bay area band that I have been into since the 70's. I downloaded that mp3 file yesterday but I'm having trouble opening it. I'll figure it out, 'cause the funky doctor is worth it.

Another absolutely top-notch bay area band from the 70's was the Sons of Champlin. Bill Champlin singing, and Terry Haggerty on lead guitar, with a burning horn section and great rhythm section, and sometimes Geoff Palmer on vibes etc. They got back together briefly about two years ago and played some gigs and recorded one for a CD. It came out very nice. Sons of Champlin -- Live. Steely Dan fans would be most appreciative, I think.

Best line from Ruthless People:

Bette Midler, sobbing - "I've been kidnapped by K-Mart!"

Hutch....no worries, we've got it covered. Have a good gig and a great time with the Dan Fans this weekend!

Midnite Cruiser - Check your e-mail. Reprint! Reprint!

Do you know the way to San Jose?
I'm going back
to find some peace of mind
in San Jose
(or something like that)
http://www7.mercurycenter.com/premium/ent/docs/poptix28.htm

I know this has bee reported before, but this gives more details. D & W certainly deserve it!
http://news.excite.com/news/pr/000428/ca-ascap-steely-dan

- Q you want to go?

Local radio station was giving away tickets to the show before they go on sale tomorrow if you could answer this question-
What famous actor and commedian played drums with them when Walt Becker refered to their band as not very good?

of course I never got through.

..Garcia, on a good night, was one of the Best, Ever!
Sadly, he had fewer good nights as time and junk took their toll..
The Dead's last couple of tours were courtesy of the DEA, who made a deal following his bust in GG Park.. Specifically, Jerry stayed out of jail as long as they kept touring, because the narcs had a huge undercover operation going with the parking lot crowd..
The best drummer from the Bay Area was Dave Garibaldi, of Tower Of Power.. In fact, the best 2 piece rhythm section around is Prestia & Garibaldi.. One of the few bands that can stand nose to nose & stare SD straight in the eye without blinking..
Want proof?
www.strokeland.com.. Listen to the little mp3 there..
Hey, don't pick on Clas anymore.. He's basically un-armed.. Just dig what you can of his offerings on the GB Comp..
One should always be remembered for the good they do..
Shouldn't they?
That's the Cowboy Way.. (Hi-Yo Silver!)

Personally, I'm real happy with what I've got. Gonna see Steely Dan three times in June. The Steve Kimock Band four times in July. And the Furthur Festival in August/September. And the incredible High Sierra Music Festival over the Fourth of Ju-lye weekend. What a line-up. And many other great and varied musical offerings. Looking good.

Today's vocabulary lesson: Copyright infringement...

Hutch....Opti's printer bit the dust today but we have another....will try to get it going tomorrow and print and mail the cover art by Sunday.

VaBeach tix in the morning and Raleigh on Monday morn!! *YAY*

DanFans,

Get a grip. Be happy that you have the opportunity
to see any line-up playing B&Fs stuff. Yes, it
would be extremely cool to have an enGORGEment or
Red Rocks or some other heady venue to see SD with
oh maybe 30 original players rotating in and out.
But no, we aren't gonna, and so what. Now I'm
picturing 1000 danfans, following a show like that,
slammin' some Kool-aid from the cup o' Death, 'cause
they've "seen it all."
The mincing of words here reminds me of the oh so lame
exchanges my friends have over Roger Waters having
sucked because that Dave's guitar was absent.
Wait till Becker or Fagen dies... that's right...
and then absense will take on a new meaning.
Allusion: Can't see the Beatles anymore... damn.
"Exactly," says Jeff Porcaro.

Found out my seats to Pine Knob: LCTR, U, 3-4.

"Ida Lee it's you, I'm dreaming oooooooof"

Michelle: Sorry to hear that. If I had extra copies I would give them to you - I would. The good news is that the new remasters (we're awating Gaucho) can be bought for $10-11/ea at a discount CD store or even a Walmart. I bought two of the remasters at Walmart believe it or not within 4 days of the release date when CDNow could not get their act together. No wonder the stock has lost more than 1/2 it's value in the last year.

Still I remain tied to the mast

Ok, i'm sorry but Home at last is becoming one of my favorites! I love that song so much. Does anyone have a CD burner because i used to have every Steely Dan CD but they got stolen. I would pay for the Burn Cds!!
Lemme know
Michelle/ IO

Damn, how could I forget Aretha, Marvin Gaye and another sad song: Vincent by Don McLean. Anyone else have a soft spot for Herb Alpert and TJBB? I’ve always liked Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White, and talk about racy album covers, you young ‘uns should check out Whipped Cream and Other Delights.

ballah: re: Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, you forgot about your health... Here’s wishing you some of that Ashe O chere spoke of, if you can utilize it propa like.

Dr. Ruth or Ruthless: What is an Aujapist? Or should I say could you please define Aujapist?

re: Mindy Jostyn: I had the opportunity to see this artist in a small outdoor concert back in 1998 and she was great. A very strong voice, plays a few instruments and some very fine songs. If you ever get the chance to catch a show of hers chances are you will not be disappointed.

Raptor;

Takes one to know one. Maybe none of us had as much info as you do or maybe you're just the King of the World. Shut Up.

Kid Clean -
SD tickets went on sale in my area two weeks ago. I was on the keyboard with a 56k modem, my wife was on the phone with the numbers set on speed dial. By the time I secured six seats in the 12th row center, she had just broken thru the busy signal & was on hold. Here are some tips; Prior to the sale time, get on the Ticketmaster site for your show. Set your address and CC info into their "Fast Order" feature. Bring up the seating chart for your venue. About two minutes before sale time, begin to hit the "refresh" button constantly. When sales begin, an "on sale" ball will appear in the upper rightcorner. Click on it, & follow the instructions. Once you see the seats offered, you'll have 5 minutes to check their location and complete the transaction. With a T1 connection, you should burn thru in no time. Good luck & enjoy the show.
Regarding the lack of response to your post, the sad fact of this site is that it is inhabited by some of the most arrogant, self-centered pseudo-sophisticates/intellectuals that I've had the displeasure of crossing on the net. They're so wrapped up in their trite nonsense that they don't have the common courtesy to answer a simple question. That's a shame.

I'd once again like to thank Sooutrageous for the tape that arrived in today's mail... thankyouthankyouthankyou

As to young Poot; see how wrong you are?

Hey everyone, Ok tell me this is not the stupidest thing ever, one of my teachers got offered 3rd row Steely Dan Tickets and he turned them down, i was like ok don't even talk to me beacuse he could have given those to me. DAMN HIM!! hehe, um well i FINALLY have a lot to respond too--

Ms. Turnbull- ok <3 means Love, DUH!~ and it is fun. exclamation points are greeeeeat because they express the way that i would acutally be talking! ha! so talk about something cool, dont base your posts on negative energy, it will come back to you!

CaraMia- I know how to skate a little bit lower huh? Well, thats cool! haha! How are you? i can't wait to meet you. you seem like the coolest person, well everyone on here does but you are so funny! You said that you were going to e-mail me with your Mug, so i can't wait to meet you. Acutally we might be meeting at old town, so we will see! :)

KD- I still don't understand, ok, you know i'm under 18. but what is this about there seemed to be a lot going on and then nothing like almost negative gothic whatever said?? :)

Daddy G- Hey! You are such a sweetie! :)

later everyone, pleas dont' hesitate to contanct me!
michelle

Dear young Master Poot:

Please report to Ms. Turnbull at once regarding certain spelling lessons that were not done. The rest of you are dismissed. Good day.

Steeley Dan?? I thought they were done by now. Jesus no one wants to hear some washed up musiciansin their late forties. Yaa all are a bunch of sore losers

Hutch: A gold star for you.

KD: If I recall correctly there was a post from Innocent One way back that mentioned <3. If that is an indication of her age then her typing skills and maybe even her vocabulary very impressive.

Roo D: psst! Do you want my jello cup? Hurry up, before Nurse Ratchet catches us. I’ll try and distract her with a stupid joke. Oh Nurse!? What kind of food do they serve in a loony bin? Bananas, crackers, nuts and fruitcake. Snort, giggle, guffaw, laugh, tee he! (Say, what ever happened to Ruth Buzzie?)

Innocent One: Oh, sure it’s all fun and games until someone puts an eye out from exclamation point overuse. Besides if you don’t think I’m being fun, maybe you are too young to understand something like dry humor. Perhaps the loony bin food joke is more your liking for now (although your musical taste seems quite sophisticated).

When all my dime dancin' is through
I run to you...

Kid-I don't think anyone used the phone for tickets. The Internet has the usual hassles but is easier to get through than the phone.

Aja

More Boston/Southern NE news:

Just to remind everyone--the offish site is wrong, Meadows tix on sale tomorrow at 10am. I called. It's true.

Is no one willing to advise on phone vs. internet ticket sales??

For those GBers in the Boston area....

Mindy Jostyn is playing at the
Natick Center for Performing Arts
Friday, April 28th. 8:00pm show.

I would have posted it earlier had I known
she was gone....but not forgotten.

Mark in Boston

Libby was also in a brief scene in the Robin Williams
film "Awakenings". She is the lounge singer.

I second the bring back Mindy nomination.

St Al: how about a newer pic of our heroes on the GB. that circa 70's photo at the top makes the GB look like a nostalgia site.

ballah/sugar daddy or whatever the fuck you're calling yourself now, I thought you were on your way to amsterdam?
that's mighty big talk for a community college educated philosopher. now, can you entertain us with a limerick about mother theresa and that man from nantucket while you're on a roll.

Bring back Mindy Josten!

St Al -- More bitching. I do miss the Webring link at the top of the page...

Just Curious --- I have a drunken review of a tape of Libby singing a great Al Kooper song, "Fool That I Am" on SNL back in the late 1970s. It was on tv back in October, I taped it, went out to a party and watched and typed pretty sauced. Anyway, she was very pretty, her voice was beautiful, and the song was top notch. If I remember correctly, there's some guy from the South Pacific that has a Libby Titus site up.

Sugar Daddy -- don't be a dickhead. Bebe Buell makes Libby look like Ella Fitzgerald.

Jeez, sugar daddy! That's Don Fagen's Wife you're talking about!
Bad territory to invade....If he loves her like I love my wife
your ass would be in a Sling. David

Beast, sadly for me, how right you are. I'm sitting here deperately trying to market my pirated garange band tapes, watching old Annette Haven videos with the sound muted, while listening the The Moody Blue's 'Days of future Past" with my every-ready-girlfriend Rosie.

I coulda been a contenda! I coulda been somebuddy! Dat night at da gawden...........

Sugar Daddy: Tough talk about Steely Don's wife. You sound like a frustrated artist, perhaps one without a recording contract.

Libby Titus represents the epitome of the pathetic sycophantic "Groupie Culture". She's not unlike Liv Tyler's mom(Beebee Whoever) who fucked everyone from Todd Rundgren and Steven Tyler to Warren Zevon and everyone inbetween. If the dude has a recording contract has long hair and could get them backstage passes they're be more than willing to engage in a little persuasive'bartering." Mariannne Faithful was the UK Queen Groupie. They all have psuedo-careers as models or musicians but never amount to anything but "arm candy" for their rock star daddies.

Good King Richard, Aja:

I had the same instant Kama experience this week. I was in a used CD store the day before yesterday, grabbed a used copy for eight bucks (mine other copy is on permanent loan, I'm afraid) and now I get it too.

That lyric in Josie is definitely "*never* had" on the album version.

look, ballah's talking to himself again

The new page on the official SD page looks like mugshots of them......well i think thats appropriate,for the prices for tickets are the same as being mugged......getting what traffic will bear is the official Casto Party Line here......but i really think the good seats are overpriced......we are all not former Yuppies.....

HELP! I need advice. Tickets go on sale tomorrow for New Jersey, and my wife and I will be flying up to catch the PNC show and Jones Beach. My question is, which method is proving better to obtain the best tickets- phone or internet (I have access to a cable modem connection).
Also, anyone know when Jones Beach tix go on sale?
thanks in advance for your help!

The net doesn`t have much tosay about Libby Titus....cut A COUPLE records and hung out with the Upstate New Yorkers music scene and was Levon Helm`s lover.......AMY`S mother and now Donald`s wife......Did she own a nightclub called Lone Star....was she a writer in the Joni Mitchell style......did she have a good voice???????????what makes her a figure in pop culture? oh yea she went to the same college as Donald did, but never met him there.

make that "my coworkers are USED to that by now"

(making coffee before I accidentally send the other side our case strategies)

Aja

sooutrageous-I'm tempted, tempted, tempted.......(sorry, Clas. You're still my sugarpie honeybunch)

cara mia-gorgeous, pre-med triathlete? That made me laugh out loud (my co-workers are to that by now). I definitely can't live up to that, but if anyone thinks that, let 'em! One thing you will find out for sure: we know how to have a great time here! Bring your friends-the more the merrier. I'll put together that hotel list and prices this weekend.

ole-I SWEAR the lyric is "never had", even though it doesn't say it. I heard the same thing on 2vN, though the exact song is escaping me right now.

Good King Richard-I pulled out Kama yesterday and had the same experience. After 2vN, I'm suddenly "getting" Kama and enjoying it much more.

Aja

~i just purchased tickets for wilkes-barre show online through etm. i purchased 3 'single' tickets feeling that my chances at single selection were more favorable. i got first row, center section, seats, 17, 18(simply by coincidence) and second row seat 2 near the aisle. the front & center seats should put me directly in front of donald if the band's arranged similar to the pbs and vh1 gigs. haven't been this close since fagen's 'little big band' days at the china club! ........do i hear any worthwhile offers?!

steve

St.Al: Yeah, that's the one. The way DM was mumbling I was simply assuming that it was hiw South African accent - will be on the lookout for the whole band...then that was ale on his upper lip, not sweat?!

Hoops line about Bad Sneakers making him long for New York and he hadn't even been there, he was from Chicago - was great...and set up the whold map fiasco gag. I've watched it again last night - it's funnier every time. The best dumb line set-up was the question the woman asked near the beginning of the show whether they could remember any songs that were real from start to finish - the way she phrased it Donald was able to quip something like: "Yeah, we just now played a couple all the way through - Didn't you hear..." Classic. Sure beats the hell out of the self-indulgent endless blathering by Townshend or Henley, plus we get in more real music.

Dr MU -- Not sure if you could see me on the VH1 thing (and that's saying a lot)? Hoops, however, was the star of the show. Regarding Dave on VH1. That, most certainly was not a good representation of what the band is capable of. I think Dave was drunk. I'm assuming you saw the acoustic thing with he and Tim Reynolds? Speaking of Tim Reynolds. Dr., I've got to tell you that I doubt anyone on this board could even aspire to be in this guys league. Tim is an amazing guitar player. You just didn't see him do his thing. Dave has always held the position that he isn't a musician compared to the rest of his band. He writes and sings. Tim Reynolds is definitely a SD caliber musician, along with the rest of the band.

I wasn't real keen on DMB until I saw them live. Once I did it was all over...

Q. How do brain cells from people from Arkansas die?

A. alone

TOP TEN REASONS I (I mean the Attourney General) invaded a Miami home before dawn Saturday taking Elian

10. Do you like my new blue dress?

9. Hell, the fisherman is a janitor and he's Italian anyway

8. Who is the Gaucho amigo?

7. That was a suspicious-looking squirt gun I saw on Elian

6. Do you like my new blue dress? It's a mini

5. Someone painted my 4 Red Blazers white

4. What's an 11th Circuit Court?

3. President Clinton wanted to try the "cut and paste" mode with that newfangled Adobe Photoshop program

2. I meant to getting around to reading the Constitution Friday, but was too busy

1. Now Elian can't tell the difference between the USA and Cuba

Just heard Janie Runaway on a mainly jazz and eclectic Chattanooga (my town in my other life and 100 miles away) public station WUTC, 88.1...

It has made a rainy Friday interesting.

One of my missions in the world of cyber is to convert bytes and bleeps into reality, so KD, Hutch, Almost Neg. Girl, I will hit the beaches of San Diego and get the proof that indeed:

1-Aja is a gorgeous pre-med legal beagle triathelete
2-JWMalibu can surf and sing at the same time
3-Worm man really will inch his way cross-country
4-Innocent One does know how to skate a little lower

If they and others allow it, I will digitalize our adventures for your enjoyment.

cara mia

Clas, here in the U.S. we sometimes call our country "America." This may be confusing to some, but here in the States we can have more than one word for the same thing, and a word can even mean more than one thing! Pretty confusing, huh? Thing is, though, most Americans are fortunate enough to have a fully developed language center in their brain to comprehend these concepts, though it can get problematic at times when communicating with those who are deficient in this area. You see, there really is no other good way to descibe a United States citizen other than "American."

KD, Almost Neg Girl - I totally thought the same thing. Seems like we're in the middle of an SNL sketch doesn't it?

SS=Q

"Steely Dan and the Dead ARE both from "America"."

SouthAmerica or NorthAmerica? Canada?? Venezuela???

DMB, what is that standing for? Damaged Minimal Brain?

And for Greatful Dead, the marathon gigs they used to do was only because of the PHM.

PHM is standing for Pot, Heroin & Money.

StAl - please, three dots, not four or seven or two, three (3).

Joker - great artdesign, love it.

Lars - hey, that would be great, where did you hear that?

Aja - you sugarpie, I can hardly wait.

sir Clas von Adlercreutz

PS/ The Stranger - ehh, forgot to say, use gloves... for christs sake, use gloves when you handle those mattresses.

St. Al- I like the new header - now if we could somehow get that spell checker working ...

I actually can't wait to hear this album. SD is hot right now:
http://www.mtv.com/news/headlines/000427/story6.html

Black Minnie: that's the best handle I've seen yet.

Mr. Beemer: Nice, new, small graphics. We need some faster downloads on the new frontier--plus the Fagenphone is easier to visualize when Donald is chewing on a mouthpiece.

"Stella Stevens or Steely Dan?" That's the theme of the informal workshops I'll be presenting over the next 12 weeks. Check your local listings and don't forget the 15 watt bulbs if you plan on joining in on the fireworks.

Oprah's Pick,

Minnie

Huge Fan -- eww.

I hope that was a joke. And I hope you weren't sober, then and now.

Wynton Kelly only plays on 'Freddie'...

Speaking of the Dead, I saw Phil Lesh and friends last week. The show really wasn't that good,(BORING, NOT ENOUGH DRUGS) and I really liked the Dead. It just got me more pumped up for the SD shows this summer.

St.Al- I like the new headers on this page. It doesn't take me 5 minutes to get loaded in anymore. I still think Dave Matthews sucks. I think I'm a little to old for his music.(43)

Moray- LOL!

When I was 22 I tried to screw my cousin. I got rejected as well. There really was a Cousin Dupree in my family...ME!

HF

Mr Chow: Was good to meet with you all that time ago - Sorry to take quite so long to get back on board: it's been hell and I haven't been back in town since. So, you finally got the 'SD special' set up. If you're taping... and can spare a copy, please remember me (don't think I can get down to the 'gong on a Wednesday). I could always subpoena a copy of the log tapes (if you know what I mean!).

Hi all... seems like Oz'll miss out AGAIN.. but good to see so many happy ticket bearers.

Anyone, like me, ever had difficulty getting into Karmakiriad? Well, somehow, it seems a whole lot easier and better after wearing out TAN (fortunately I have a spare copy) and it's barely had a challenger in the past week or so. Why not give it a whirl?

Maybe it's just the onset of Winter.

"Snowbound, lets sleep in today. Wake me up..."

Richard&kangaroos

Steely Dan and the Dead ARE both from "America". That is a true statement. They both can be one of America's greatest bands in any given tune. The only difference is that the GD can also be one of the worst bands in America within the SAME tune. I respect the Dead and own much of their music, partially in tribute to a fallen friend who was their HUGEFAN. D&W would immediately fire those drummers for not being able to keep grooves in corduroy pants. With respect deserved largely by the Dead at heart, I personally dismiss any musical or physical similarities between the two bands, other than both being comprised of mainly aging white males and said males residing in America.

Ahh the Dave Matthews Band. I used to refer to him as the "singing leprecaun", what with that vocal sound and that funny little one-legged jig. You know, that was around the first album, before he was signed. Since then, his overall sound has grown on me somewhat, particularly the live albums. This, in part, is why I would refer to them as the "Carter Beauford Band". This guy is a Dan-level (not said lightly) playa. The other guys are statues (sax) or windup toys (violin). Now Tim Reynolds is a great player, but not a fulltime member yet (I don't think). I can take Dave fairly well now. He does have A style and he can pick drummers. That is all very important

Chere: I am familiar with the band Mercury Dime, but not Rocky's. Bear in mind that this is coming from an old married cat who only goes out on weekends to play music for money. No gig and I'm home chillin' with my Chillins. There is a club in the area named Woody's. I played there a few times. It's just what it sounds like (semi-biker/redneck/yuppie pool hall). If you talk to your uncle, find out who he's playing with currently and where. I'll check him out !!

steviedanpeaceout

On that Irvine Danfest, having trouble getting mail to M. Fowler and David Castro. Email me.

Minah---Thanks for the URL for Irvine and sorry not to connect out that way. Enjoy your NE venue.

JWMalibu and other LA folks---which nights??????

Aja---gettin' excited here too! My good friend in LA is a paralegal also. I hope she can make it down for the show.
Thanks for the offer of help in booking rooms, etc. We want to be convenient to the doings, so we will confer via email.

I.O. Ms Michelle--I am in section 101, row Q, 49-50
for San Diego. Will look forward to meeting you and will send you an email with my mug so you know how to spot me. You have good taste in music.

cara mia

St. Al: wow, I like it, but I also loved the other one. Did Rudy/Joker (am I right on the names?) do it? Any idea where those old images were taken from?

I guess I took them for granted.

oleander-- no, I missed it. I read the NY Times' bball section daily, the actual paper not as often as I should, but they forget to give out the magazine part on the website every so often. Last year the mag had a feature on Latrell Sprewell by the Times' head bball writer that infuriated me and every other member of the NBA community (not that I'd consider myself a huge part of, but hey...). Mike Wise, he be a sell out. Thanks, though, I'll have to poke around the site to find it.

Innocent One- I knew you were under18, it's just, eh. Nevermind...There seemed to be a whole lot of things going on, and then nothing at all, as Almost Gothic Negative Girl mentioned.

moray eel - lol

Hoops-- I meant to email this to you, maybe here will suffice. You had the best question of all, the one that meant the most, even if they kind of dodged it. They give us the hints of the things that they love/missed about NYC, but never really spoke out about them in interviews (save for dissing the guys who 'shoot the shit about the Mets on the stoop'). Anyway, great composure, proper respect, excellent question.

I'd ask The Two what inspired them to write 'Dead Skunk.'

Str & Str--hey, mind if I sit on your lap? Just during the show. I'll lean so you can see past me.

lisa--baybee. E me! I gotta be with you guys come Sept. 1! I've written about seeing them in Charlotte with Bela Fleck. It was outrageous--licksmanship to the nth.

KD--Did you see the article in last week's NY Times Mag on Phil Jackson? Very detailed, very interesting. If you can't get your mitts on it, e me and I'll send you a copy.

tom--I always heard "best friend we never had" on the "Aja" "Josie," and loved it--but the lyric sheet says "ever," and they pretty clearly say "ever" on "AIA." Too bad. Another one of those lovely little twists.

almost gothic negative girl: Ahhhhh. You are not alone, not by a long shot! Been reading this board off and on for 2 years and once in awhile the topic surfaces. There's a connection that many of us feel.

Someone wrote a nice piece that's archived on one of these sites. Can anyone help me here? I'll look for it. Also W has been quoted as saying he envied the Dead for their ability to keep the same core of players together and the opportunities that situation creates.

The thing that unites the two for me is that they are quintessentially american bands (not in any patriotic sense, but musically) with a unique sound direct from their coastal roots --Bay Area for the Dead and NYC for the Dan. That, plus they're great to dance to.

Glad you brought it up. . .

hey everyone!

--KD-- Well you are right, didn't you ever read the posts before about how i thought that I was the youngest steely dan fan ever?? Well like i said you were right, i am under 18! haha!
But I thought that everyone already knew that!

--Chere-- yes! That sounds awesome! Lets totally e-mail back and forth! I love to talk over e-mail! You can call me either one, i don't know if there is another Michelle on the guest book so, ya know, we can say, Michelle in the e-mails and Innocent One on the post :)

--SS-- hey! Thats awesome.

I was really pissed because i totally got up early and got a password for the earl ticket period thing and i got my tickets at 10:15 and i got section 103, but the next morning my other friends got front row center because i guess all the tickets were released and so i was almost in tears! But it's totally better then nothing so hey, i'm happy! well anyways, talk to ya'll later~!~
IO/Michelle

...he ask *them*...

Chere: Didn't he ask him the the Bad Sneakers question which prompted Donald to ask for the NYC map prop? I know he's from Chicagoland I was sure they would swing into Janie Runaway after that.

For you Jimmy Buffett fans out there, Donald will be singing "I Wish I Had A Pencil Thin Mustache" during the tour this summer.

m.e.

Hey St. Al: Was that you I saw in the crowd at VH1 or just a shadow? Just flipped through VH! and there was Dave Mathews!...gave it a listen for a few minutes. A nice melody, thoughtful lyrics - sounded a little like a mellow Pete Thonshhend with some Joni Mitchell and Genesis. But really the stuff was pretty simple and a bit derivative. I mean I could almost figure out the chords the guitarist next to him was playing thus barely passing my criterion: "If I could do it, it can't be art!" Then he stole a line from Little Feat! Pleasant though

A big "Hallo" to all.

Innocent one/Michelle- which do you prefer? Glad you got a laugh out of that. I really had to resist the urge to really blast her here on the GB. I'd gladly e mail back and forth ad so and so to correspond. And of course in the Propa "Babylon and on and on Sista fashion."

sououtrageous- got your e mail, I will e mail back soon. Your enthusiasm INSPIRES me. EMPOWERS me. You the 'El Supremo major Dude" that you be chile'.

I am still sick as hell. Nasty cold and HATING it. Big baby when I'm like this, fever dreams and all. I was out in my urban garden in a blanket sitting in the morning Florida sun. Oh how I would love to tour the Southland someday. I have a perpetual invitation to partake in a VouDou ceremony there with the illustrator of the New Orlean's VouDou Tarot Card deck. Very POWERFUL cards. She does some beautiful artwork also for items esoteric and spiritual in nature. I really would've also loved if they had a little more o dat "chunky" horn flowing on the Storytellers gig. I do feel soooo blessed I got to catch the show, it was great fun all the same. I don't pay too much attention to the idiot box, but I had the shit rigged for in stereo sound and everything. lit a few candles and then the magic happened......
So am I to understand that "Hoops" is the cool DANFAN who was just a spinnin' after answering Walter's lyric trivia? Hoops , Peace Brother. Not much else to say except I am off to bed- serious medicine head and I drank a tea I conjured up about a half hour ago - my medicinal JUJU is kickin' in.
My best to you all.
Ashe O to you all. -chere

Great job SS!

So, a month ago, I enjoyed the last few days of my spring break at home. On Final Four Saturday, after mowing the lawn for the first time of the year and before heading out to the hometown parties, I took in a trip to the mailbox and brought up that Red Hot Chili Peppers Rolling Stone.

On the way up the driveway, mine eyes see the Levon Helm headline, and, in addition to really looking forward to seeing an interview with a member of one of my favorite bands (no pun intended), I was hoping for an Amy Helm mention. Libby Titus would have been nicer, then Donald, then perhaps a mention of Helm on TvN. That would have been crazy, right?

But reading that article, and getting in two pictures of Amy, a mention of Donald and Libby, and the story behind the whistle. How it was the only way she could communicate with her father, who happens to be one of the most imaginative singer of the last 30 years. How she whistled on 'Cousin Dupree,' the type of song the gents in the Band could probably come up with. How she gave her father the impetus to play again after losing his friends, his Band, his money, and his voice. How it all fits.

Then Mr. Sheffield's cute essay on The Two. I enjoyed how he used song titles and lyrics within the essay without actually putting quotation marks around the words, leaving the reader with the impression that Rob is one hell of a writer when in effect Donald and Walter are the damn good ones in question. Otherwise, nice job. Then the combined effect of the review quote and album cover on the back page, the sort of publicity that money can buy.

Sorry, Innocent One, you seemed to be flaunting this sort of eloquent-yet-17-year-old AOL-IM prose that was either legit or the work of an insane genius.

Speaking of Walt, whoa, Domino.

Potent conversation the last few days, almost harkening back to the glory days of the GB that I had nothing to do with. I dig.

Holy F)&$#^*

I just got 2nd row Sec B (center) tix for the Vegas Dan show. Daddy's gonna get tight("everynight"), passout on the bar room floor" tonight baby......

God I love this life.

God Bless Don & Walt.

SS

hello everyone!! To, Aja, Tom, Edd, Caramia, and Ruby baby i look forward to meeting you all! Wow it's going to be so cool!
Almost gothic negative girl-- I hope you weren't talking about me!!
By the way, my name is Michelle
later everyone

Michelle

KD ~ Perfect timing. Although the thought had briefly crossed my mind several days back, that question really came to me in full force a few posts ago. Then I read your comment two seconds later and went hmmm, I was just thinking the same thing.

I may be alone here with this next statement, but so what. Steely Dan and the Grateful Dead have been my two favorite bands since the 70's. Very different. Very tasty. One extremely tight and controlled. The other one ; ) so loose and jammin' the outer limits. The best of both worlds. Variety is the spice of life. And life is sweet.

Crimpshrine rules!

KD: i'm for real! what do you mean :(

iz

innocent one

for real?

???

or is someone playing with us?

Chere-- Oh my gosh that was so funny! I totally agree about that lady who was like the lyrics kinda shocked me. I was like you dumb ass! thats the way Steely Dan is, didn't you know that?? Well not always, but they're cooky! It's awesome though! Well i had to share that because it was totally funny i was like AHH your dumb! they could have used that presious time to sing more of "do it again." WAYYYYYYY to short! Maybe they will have them on tape. Well anyways, we need to talk girl, it sounds like we could really relate
IO

CaraMia- hey whats up?? You are coming to the san diego show?? How cool i will be there too!! Where are you sitting. If you dont' want to tell me over the GB e-mail me. brassmonkey2@hotmail.com Wow so i get to meet you how cool. I'm already excited to meet Aja!!

Ole- soo sorry, it was a joke but i wont say that anymore. sorry for not concidering others feelings. Forgive me? :(

Earth worms are easy-- I LOVE janie runaway! I think that it was C because i think that you are the one who posted the questiong. um, wow are you coming to san diego too?? wow! this is so exciting. I will actually get to meet you too!! wow this is so cool!!

Razor Boy- hey how ya doing? haven't talked to you in a WHILE!!

Later eveyone have a great day!

April 21, 2000

Nash Kato Goes Solo

For his debut solo album, former Urge Overkill guitarist-vocalist Nash Kato didn't want to rush things. Instead, he kicked back for a couple of years after his band split, neither writing nor recording out of necessity or mere inertia, and vowing not to do so until he felt — ahem — the urge coming on.
"I took a break from music altogether," Kato says. "I really needed it, just to clear my head. I did some traveling, spent a lot of time in Costa Rica. I told myself that when I started hearing the music in my head again, that would mark the beginning of something new. When that happened, I came back and started committing it to tape."

Eventually, Kato's muse began speaking to him, and he recorded a series of demos on his own, with no set plans or record deal in place.

"It was a nice project to do, because it was so open-ended," he says. "There were no deadlines to speak of, it was just something I was working on. I liken it to needlepoint or whittling, like something you just kind of pick up. A time-spender — I hazard to say a time-waster."

Kato sent his demos one at a time to Pearl Jam's Stone Gossard, who runs his own label, Loosegroove. The two had met on tour years back, and Gossard had told Kato to give him a call if he was ever interested in doing a solo project. "He pointed out to me, after we had seven or eight [songs], that we had the makings of a long-player here," Kato says.

The resulting album, titled Debutante, will sound somewhat familiar to Urge fans. Kato hasn't lost his ambition to pursue Rock with a capital R on songs like the first single, the eminently Urge-like "Zooey Suicide," but there are also some unexpected twists and turns on the album, such as the sardonic take on aging, "Cradle Robbers," and a faithful cover of Steely Dan's world-weary anthem "Dirty Work."

"It's one of those songs where the definitive version is already done," Kato admits. "When I cover songs, I tend to pick one where you can twist it three degrees to the left or step it up or do something with it. But that song is so definitive that you don't want to f--k with it."

Still, he says, a call came from the Farrelly brothers — the film-directing siblings who put together There's Something About Mary and with whom Kato had worked briefly on Kingpin. The duo asked him to submit a Steely Dan cover for their latest project, Me, Myself, and Irene, and Kato wound up doing two from the Dan's first album, "Midnight Cruiser" and "Dirty Work."

"Everyone who heard it thought it belonged on Debutante, so we put it on there," he says.

Kato remains grateful for Urge Overkill's relatively long run of more than a decade. "Your average marriage these days is, what, six, seven years?" he says with a laugh. "Urge is a great alma mater, a great school. Everything I loved about rock, about writing, about business, I learned through Urge. We made mistakes, like everyone does. But when I reflect on Urge, I remember the good over the bad, the gags, and the laughs. The world was our punch line, and we enjoyed every minute of it. But I also learned from it — what to do and what not to do — and that's how I can pull off a record like this."

St. Al, YGK, you da men.

No doubt, Lars, 'Reelin' off AIA and 'SIS' off the same album were my favorites because they used a different spoon to stir the soup. It's not as if I'm turning my noise at every faithful live version out there, but, if you're not at the actual concert, the excitement isn't running at fever pitch. No matter how high they keep the crowd noise levels at.

Good analogy, St. Al. On a completely different front, Phil Jackson is the only person involved in the NBA that I'd blindly support no matter what. In other words, he's the only guy that I'm a drooling fan over. He's meant _too_ much for me in my life to treat him as anything else.

Him and Luc Longley.

Who left "Sharon" off what album?? Are we hearing outtakes already?

Just got by 'Aja' special from down under yesterday. About six bored kids were in the room with me to watch it. They were, shockingly, fascinated. For me, anything about The Two is fascinating, but this tape really sent the college boys over the edge. These aren't really music guys, just friends (hip hop, DMB fans), but they thought it rocked, as I did. The 'Deja Vu' bit sent the room into uproarious laughter. Nice.

I have to agree with YGK - why going to a concert and hear what you already heard before? The only tunes on AIA that I cared for was the rearranged ones.

Clas - sure, but I have a strong feeling that the boys are planning for Scandinavia. Stockholm or Copenhagen are my guesses. Otherwise we take the germans.

Holty shiite, why did they leave "Sharon" off the new album?!?? What a greatt tune

wormfest will proceed here in Nawlins

when the tour promptly decides to do New Orleans

yes, I will buy you all rail passes and put you up in my garden compost pile

no Kerrie Okie, wu wu wu the hats and hooters
but plenty of sausage and beer
and crawfish and large vats of Red Beans and Rice and Jambalaya to roll around in

bring a little cash ola
God only knows what you can get these days for a jackson here
~ worm warning~ do check the genitalia first before in dull jing

anyway, when they "love to tour the southland"
the invites are all in the mail
Walt, Don wake up

You provide the music
I'll drag out the cheers
we'll chill and watch the fireworks from here

All kinds of fun things are being planned for the Boston DanFest. Some solid details coming soon on places and events. I'm jazzed to announce that audio legend Stuart "Dinky" Dawson has agreed to join us in the festivities and talk about his days with Steely Dan!!

Dinky worked for Donald and Walter for a good part of the 70's - on the road and in the studio. He's credited on Katy Lied, Royal Scam and Aja. Dinky was a road warrior with Steely Dan during the early 70's tours both in the States and England. In fact, the B-Side Santa Monica Civic Auditorium live Bodhisattva with the famous Jerome Aniton introduction was from Dinky's private collection of tapes.

In addition to Steely Dan, Dinky has worked with Fleetwood Mac,The Byrds, Lou Reed, Jeff Beck and Joni Mitchell to name a few! He's also agreed to sign his book "Life On The Road". There's some great stories in it if you have not read it. Including a chapter on Steely Dan.

Check out Dinky's web site: www.dinkysworld.com

If you have not registered yet, what are you waiting for?!?

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Mark in Boston

worm man- according to interviews, that's the oft-argued about and much missed mistah' carlton employing the incomparable pedal on green earrings.

~the wonderfully soulful guitar work on haitian divorce was performed by dean parks with becker actually doing the talk-box thing afterword.

these prrrrls and a few others are talked about by carlton and becker in interviews located throughout the sd linx.

~tom, btw, i picked up the exact same feeling about the haitian divorce solo. check out my post on ole's 'fever dreams' page under royal scam/haitian divorce. it's almost eerie how close our interpretation is.

~nods to hoops on his vh1 15 secs of fame;
~chere for being our resident juju love priestess;
~aja for her uniquely socal comic relief.

steve

Hey The Truth, why do I get the feeling you're enjoying the inevitable chart drop-off a little too much? Don't you know that quality and popularity rarely go hand in hand? Need an analogy? Look no further than the #1 rated TV show in the land, the moronic "Who Wants to be an Idiot?"

anybody doing the San Diego trek that wants to cut expenses and maybe share a car, lodging, etc give me a wurl (bergeon@shellus.com)

so would somebody like to comment about Janie Runaway (I asked nicely the first time yes turd day)
or is this truly a bottom feeding no depositing type of environ here

you should know how all the pros play the game

anybody doing the San Diego trek that wants to cut expenses and maybe share a car, lodging, etc give me a wurl (bergeon@shellus.com)

so would somebody like to comment about Janie Runaway (I asked nicely the first time yes turd day)
or is this truly a bottom feeding no depositing type of environ here

you should know how all the pros play the game

Huge slide for 2vN this week, down to #56 on the Billboard chart. And they have canceled the first show of the tour, was that due to slow ticket sales?? Let's hope the rest of the shows hold up

but taking a break for posting! Hey tom, I scan for my name when I'm busy 'cause I don't want to be rude and ignore someone who's talking to me! Except for you-know-who, unless I happen to need a punching bag at that moment.

ruby baby-where are you? I think I've found some good hotels for you-I've still gotta check the prices. Tom and cara mia, if you're interested e-mail me and I'll send you a list, too.

Aja

aja - too busy so one only reads the posts with your name in them? ouch - some of us only get flack and jack here

I guess I am not blessed with a love letter from Claus every day, shucks

ballah - which SD shows are you going to so that I can ignore them?

~ ~ ~ ~ now to his worminess' fondest dandy fodder ~ ~ ~ ~

two steely moments of instrumental fondness to share

1) ever notice those neat guitar screeches in Green EarRings
Greek... wahhh Medallions... wahh Sparkle... wahh when they shine sorry... wahhh

I love that a real articulation of words with accompanying ex claw may shun or count urrr point

2) love that 'muted fuggle horn sounding' guitar with wah wah
in Haitian Divorce

it resembles the ska walking of the "too passionate to the point of tearing each others heads off" couple. and that word 'they "wrangle" through the night" the squawk box is a perfect instrumental accompaniment to verbalize the "wrangling" forces barely kept in check. The musical baking is sombre and clam but the squawk box 6 string is the couple blowing up at each other

send me mojo, who's this kinky so and so

Cara Mia: mWorld speaks the truth. I'm going to see shows at Jones Beach and Mansfield. I wish I was going to Universal - when I lived out West I had a connection for great seats there.
Bad timing on my part...

Cheers minorWorld

DMB's music ALL sounds the same!

They are not a "great" band by any stretch of the imagination.

They may be good as a live band in the Dead sense, but that's it.

And, they aren't even close to the Dead's league in that regard either.

..

But Peg...I like looking at the backing vocalists...please don't make me wear the blinders,muzzle and lobster bib again...Its all about music for me, I swear...

and in the "Speaking of Blinders Dept.": anybody catch Ann on the Today show this morning saying she was 'excited to see what Steely Dan looked like...'...Hmmmm... Peg?, women don't care?...(ricky martin, ricky martin)...

Cara mia: Check this link: www.hob.com/marquee if you're going to hit both LA shows, you can still get in on priority seating thru tomorrow...BTW, his Beast-lyness has relocated to the left pond so he's not going to hang with us westish folk. Hope to hang with all you Universal bound folks - Glad to host a tailgate with the 'unofficial danvan'...

Stal and Mr LaPage, that was a fine, sportsmanlike volley...hey MrLaPage, did I ever tell you Stal prints out the posts he doesn't like and relieves himself on them? That's why I don't post much any more (I was beginning take on a jaundiced tone). BTW, I don't think its any coincidence the 'post' page is yellow...nope...

ok, its all out of my system...
mW

Carolyn:

Forget the bozo who just wanted the sandwich cookies. I think you're beautiful!

cara mia-me too! You know you're addicted when you start the workday with a morning scan of the GB. You know it's been a lively night when you only have time to read posts with your name in them. Can't wait to meet you in June!

Hey there, Clas, and thank you! Your pier should be on its way sometime after June 9.

Hutch-I've been "cauldronized" so many times! Can't thank you enough. Hank Easton as sideman? Hmmm, maybe he can do a little audition June 9 and see how he fits in! He does a great Kid C solo a la Carlton- and I know he loves playing that song.

ole-you know I will, although my advisor doesn't think I made a good decision. Whatever! I think things will work out the for the best. I've got too much going here to leave now.

No attorneys here today. Maybe I have time to go back and find the funny posts.....

Aja

Beast:
Thank you for the LA venue news. I was wondering when to clamor for tix. Wanna meet up? What night(s) are you City of Angels going to attend? Is there a plan? I think we should hit the Bel Air Hotel bar one of those nights and close it down. If I win the lottery between now and then, I'll host a big ol' party in my suite at that fine establishment.

Got my SDiego (hi, Aja!) and Irvine (hi, Stranger!) admissions in the mail on Tues/Wed. The PBS tape came Monday.
It's a Steely Dan magic week for sure...

Oleander: It's WNCW. They give lots of time to Jonatha Brooke, Jennifer Kimball (they slay me) and a local NC favorite Beth Wood. Look for me in your mailbox the next day or so.

You all had me rolling on the unvacuumed floor yesterday with the
debates (love 'em) and inserts from anonymous asses. (I admit to making the gutterball Donald-likes-to-bowl post---couldn't help myself...)
This guestbook is a real piece of art. I'm starting to experience signs and symptoms of addiction. Good thing I don't have a boss peeking over my shoulder. Yikes!

And about the decorative embellish