SIS Archives -- August 2001

jj--thank you so much for that.

Sans frettes--does that mean I should stop talking so much already? I took the liberty of changing your SDAT category from the study of ani to the study of similars.

Blaise--I am really, really hoping that "going down on Hoops like that" lost something major in translation. Re: Hegel--sigh; I've looked & looked but can't find your PL riffage in full. Would you flesh it out again, professeur?

fezo--there are TV's in Chapel Hill too.

Connie--re: parodies: I have some of them up on http://home.earthlink.net/~oleander1/parodies.htm

Herm, I am so glad you're back and feisty as ever.

angel--It's just Ben Folds; the BF Five was a trio. I was just subtracting.

Orig Les--welcome back!

lovebob--YEEEOWIEEE!! TIPITINA'S?!? How can you tempt me with geography? Oh man! Is Peg comin' too? Just make sure you get max publicity. I can't imagine that in a city so overrun with fine musicians you wouldn't find yourself in a packed house.

stevied'--let me know what you're up to next weekend, when I'll be in your nabes.

OL: I have to agree with Negative Girl as the cat's meow

In order of descending ecstatic - ness: Negative Girl, Almost Gothic, West of Hollywood, What A Shame About Me, Two Against Nature, Janie Runaway, Gaslighting Abbie

2nd tier (this is relative - still preferable to Weezer): Jack of Speed (except for the bridge which is first rate) - every Steely Dan song from the first 7 - then Walter punched the MERGE button....

3rd tier: Cousin Dupree - still sounds like a cover of a Tom Johnston tune with new lyrics and new arrangements...

WasGeena: Funny, I was thinking about the Fawn Liebowitz scene from Animal House...

Yeah WOH rules fer sure, basically uber alles. Tho AG is THE ASSEMBLY LINE GEM... Cousin is a candy kiss... JOS predictable but paradigm... NG is like True Companion, in a category of its own, like it or not... and you gotta like it mostly. TAN like that too. The rest from TVN you can keep.

Clas- say that you did. Otherwise, you can hold some tones with an Ebm6dim5, or bring some resolution with a D9. Using a maj7sus4 (aka maj11) at all is more often than not a bad idea, though.

I just saw Jay and Silent Bob. Got my fix of irreverence and utter goofiness for a couple years. Kevin Smith films rule.

Regarding that poll I saw on favorite 2vn songs, I have 2 issues: 1) How could JOS be so overwhelmingly chosen as the best song on the album? 2) How could Negative Girl finish at the bottom of the pile. Though I dig JOS, I find it to be relatively predictable (for a SD song) in the arrangement, although the lyrics are quite good. Negative Girl, on the other hand, takes musical twists and turns not heard on most of the CD, and does it brilliantly. The lyrics also perfectly convey the pathos of an enabler, while the eerie tone of the music sets a perfect somber background. It is indeed my personal 2vN favorite, and although I wouldn't expect most folks to feel the same, dead last is an insult. For God's sake, it's at least better than Cousin, isn't it?

Well, fuck polls- Sean Hannity always tells me to ignore polls unless he takes them while beating his wife for violating traditional values by "giving him lip."

OL

howdy St. Al!
i just talked to some folks and said i was gonna ask the steely dan host(s) about some stuff, haha!
on my way already, geez, that new windows media player i downloaded automatically with a new browser from my IP sure has this spacious sound to it, they call it WOW!

Banyan Tree 2VN Sounds Nice After Such A Long Time Bow,
G.

Gina: please e-mail me. I'm curious about the RLJ chat room. I might have some suggestions.

Blaise: Dude, who the hell knows with that guy? In the Spring of 1999 I distinctly remember KMTT announcing a "late Summer release for Peter Gabriel's new album." Here it is 2 years later. You think Steely Dan is slow...

JW, LoveBob and Sociable Hermit: Good to see you back.

To everyone: Some idiot sent me an e-mail asking if I would be interested in some of his "rare" Steely Dan bootlegs. I went to his site and noticed he had the Record Plant and Memphis Blues along with a couple of the "Pre-Steely Dan" CD's. Real "rare" stuff...right. Anyway, after visiting I noticed he wasn't trading, but selling. What's worse, he is also selling 2AN, Citizen Dan and Alive In America along with about 30 software titles right off his website. Even has the balls to use PayPal...

Avoid trading with this scumbag because he'll probably turn around and sell it to some unsuspecting person. It's one of those things that really chaps my ass. It's because of jackasses like this that the recording inductry is so freakin' paranoid about the Internet. Here are some of his possible aliases and websites:

http://www.aswsoftware.com
http://www.geocities.com/asws2001
Alex Riesenbeck: als_software@hotmail.com
Ian Morris: great_ian@hotmail.com
[anyone]@aswsoftware.com

StAl

angel google ist hegel

Raptor, have another bid

Speaking of the pope, he does speak for us all:

http://www.attrition.org/gallery/politics/bush_pope.jpg

Hey anon travel boy! Bet you haven't been there already:

http://www.attrition.org/gallery/signs/sign-austrian_village.jpg

Of course, all of this brought to you by...

http://www.attrition.org/gallery/macintosh/spaceheaters.jpg

Quick everyone! Get over to eBay! They're auctioning off an 11"x15" autographed picture by Anne Leibovitz of DF taking it in the ass from Lenny Kravitz! Christ, tell Fagen to shave his fuckin' back!

Your friend in the Real World

Raptor

WHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA are you for real???

of course you aren't, why should I even bother asking.

"sound writing skills"

my ass..LMFAO!!!!

Ever been to Dallas? Chicago? Portland (all of them)? Miami? Better get on it...

Blaise: Fine, won't ask again. Ole has the info you say?

John M: Ok, I predict late 2002 for the next one. But I think that Donald will have his out by 2003. I get the feeling he is in a hurry. What do we get if we win? :-)

Speaking of winning, I wonder if LP bought a lottery ticket on Friday, while driving through N.H. Hmmmmm....

Spent a bit of time on Amazon.com yesterday. Sometimes the only way I can listen to music I don't own, unfortunately, in 30 second bites. I was reading the recent 2VN reviews, now that the record is album of the year. Found them quite interesting. My favorite is the 18 year old who reviewed it and he mentioned the different solo's he liked and why it is such an awesome album. You could tell that THIS KID GETS IT. Glad to see.

Gina: My friend didn't know anything more. Oh well.

Mu: A couple of years ago I had to mark a science fair project with a demonstration of Bernouilli's Principle. First time I had ever come across it, as an adult. Why do birds fly, does sound more poetic, though.

Good day all....

Movie show....

Aerosmith
Metallica
Frank Zappa
Mahavishnu Orchestra - not really rock, or an orchestra, thus the need to hire one
Rick Wakeman

OH NO! Not another damn Guestbook!

http://www.geocities.com/g_serendipity/

Next One: 2002

Fagen solo: 2004

Clas

p.s. You know what's even more remarkable? You've lived your whole life in Europe, yet this is the first time you ever went to Paris...sad.

Clas- I thought you hated cover bands. Why the change of heart? Very disarming indeed.

Oh, by the way...don't think...you are.

Why do birds fly?

a. So they won't get eaten by land predators

b. Bernouilli's Principle. If air moves faster on one side of an object vs. the opposite side, a pressure difference is created. The shape of birds' wings are a "foil" design. If the bird is moving rapidly, the concave (curved upper surface cause the air molecules to have travel farther to get behind the wing than on the bottom. The pressure then is lower on top of the wing than on the bottom, creating "lift." The Wright Brothers beleived in this 98 years ago.

c. Birds also beat their wings pushing air downwards (and backwards) with significant force. The surface area of the wings is large enough to push quite a few molecules down. The air molecules push back like Newton's 3rd Law of Motion (last of action and reaction) causing the bird to be pushed upwards are forwards with a magnitude that can be predicted by the equationL
Fd = 1/2 Cd x Ap x rho x v(squared).

That sounds much better in poetry form though, eh? Have a good Sunday!

Now don't get me wrong. According to my own, personal set of logical principles, Steely Dan does not qualify as an "aging band" since they were not Y2K compliant as an outfit to begin with and their internal clock was set back to 1980, year of the 2VN release. Now, of course, we're expecting a priceless Fagen solo record for 1982. see how it all makes sense this way? Add to that, the fact that the band's touring personnel includes a few members in their twenties and even one, Ms Leonhart, who could be carded for beer, imho. Now if we can avoid a breakup somehow, armed with this insight, we'd be set for pure bliss in the years to come. Btw, I am currently 15 years old and base my outlook on life on a set of guidelines brought forth by my idol Roger Waters too. Screw it all! And Freddie is not gay. Not yet anyway...

Oopps... looks like a construction guy tossed the angel from the top of my Amen corner. Let me put it back now.

So what's up in music, besides connected actors? I see a lot of aging bands are hooking up with Symphony Orchestras lately. That's a new trend out there. So far, Yes and The Moody Blues... hmm... that Moody Blues concert is currently playing on Public Television and so is an ELO gig.

StAl - Just when exactly is the next Gabriel slated for release? I be salivating with anticipation here. slurp slurp... gargle...

Clas - Yeah, she's speaking to me but I can't understand much of what she says, however hard I try. Perhaps, you'll have better luck at it. To hell with all that logic and minimal sense, it's all a question of "vibes" and "feel" or whatnot. Yeah... that's it. Groovy!

Screw education, right, W1P? Way to go. Haha!

angel - Just forget it, alright? Stick with the official ole word on it and all will be fine in Dandom. I must have written a hefty chapter on this very subject right here already. Same goes for the issue of Steely Dan live 2000 recordings, etc, etc... In the end, I say, why bother, really?
Btw, I like an angel post on top of the Amen Corner. It's quite fitting. I don't want to disturb that holy harmony.

See? Now she's speaking to Blaise!

Blaise - how do you DO this?

No, not the POPE fuckhead!

Pope?

Damn, sometimes I think I am stupid.

Original Lester - I said Ómost obvious chordÓ didn't I? Sorry, I'm too fucked up today, can't focus.

OC - yeah, of course.

Gina - Focus was a great band, eh?

(I am flirting with Gina but she's not responding, hell I used to have a Harem here. It's all gone. And did you guys notice the Return of the Geena? She said hello to EVERYBODY except me. And we used to be in LOVE!)

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LESSONS IN SURVIVAL, Chapter XVI:

There are no such things as friends, only short moments of friendship.

(A famous man said that, who?)

C

PS/ It's pretty remarkable, Paris and Stockholm are in many ways two very much different cities, but they still have a lot in common. For example, the two towns are at the same distance from each other.

BUT, the citizens are not speaking the same language for obvious reasons.

ballah=KD

Ballah, our allah - thank you oh wise one, i laughed out loud at my desk and likely got some bodily fluids on it to boot! LOLOLOL - hey, at least this guy is witty if not odd as well in his bites, he likely is stockpiling ammo and provisions in his basement waiting for the big one to hit - remember, ballah, you're reading this stuff too, don't blow milk through your nose again while getting pissed off, that's so gross...okay, back to saving the world...(3 dots, see clas?)

Sociable Hermit: Take your false teeth out, put them in a cup full of Efferdent, or whatever the fuck you call it, and keep your jackass yap shut. What kind of stupid name is Sociable Hermit anyway? It's foolish sounding. You are obviously an idiot just from hearing that stupid ass name. Sociable Hermit. Give me a fucking break. Get a new name, something with pizzazz. Like ballah. That's a cool name: ballah. It just rolls off the tongue. Beautiful sounding. Ballah. I can't fricking say it enough. The name of a genius. Kerouac, Bukowski? They were hacks. They should never have been published. I could beat them both hands down, you shit eating pillow biter.

Randy: You and Tipper Gore should both go jump off a cliff onto some really sharp stalactite style rocks, or like into some lava or something. It would be the first good step towards getting rid of the scourge of censorship that this country is now experiencing. Also, I wanted to ask you a question. How does it feel to wake up every morning and look at your reflection in the mirror and think to yourself, "I am a total jackass." I wouldn't know personally, and just wanted maybe to understand how your primitive psyche works, and how it feels to realize that you are nothing more than a crusty flake of sheep dandruff. I sure bet it sucks to be you. I used to know a guy named Randy. He was a total jerkoff. He would bob his head around like a Jack in the Box while he talked, and he always got over-excited and all sweaty and jittery like he was on drugs or something. I couldn't stand this fucker. I think he was either gay or on crack or maybe both. Anyway, you remind me of this jackass freak. What a crappy name...Randy. It even sounds like a fag name. What kind of parents would name a kid Randy? They sure must have hated you to name you something so crappy.

And to all the rest of you "GBers": Get a fucking life. Go outside or something. I realize that you'll probably be blinded by the sunlight and shit after being inside for so long, but for gods fucking sake, you've got to get up from behind your computer screen and see the world. YOu're all wasting away, turning into big slimy globs of fat, sitting in your computer chairs, jerking off to jpegs of horsey shows or barely legal girls sucking off German shepherds, I don't know what the hell. Anyway, just remove your thumb and whatever other fingers, maybe your fist considering your size, from your asshole and quit being such jackasses. You're getting on my damn nerves and shit. I'm about to fricking get pissed or whatever.

OK, well, see you all later. Don't have too much fun, and try not to get any bodily fluids on your monitor screen. You wouldn't want to mess up your magnifying glass dealythings or whatever. ha ha.

-ballah

Good Press, Bad Press - It's still press: eLLe's modus operundi (sp) - Don't be fooled, she loves the attention whether good or bad - We need an ignore button on the GB, not in chat, don't we...

I saw her ass over at the "Ugly Bitches over 40" website. Honey, a good diet will rid you of those unsightly pimples.

Let's just say that when she laughs her ass off, she must be rolling on the floor.

ballah-right on!!

Well, I have the same picture and I disagree. It's all a question of perspective.

Sure, anything looks small when you compare it to her mouth...

Actually, I happen to have a picture of Elle's ass and it doesn't look half bad. Definitely not fat...

Elle - Do you have a fat-ass fixation...or just a fat ass?

"I have avoided women like you all my life" says gina, to me.
(without knowing one thing about me)
and then she says some insane thing that goes on and on for about a half hour.. "well there you are for all to see, aren't you happy now? now you're going to say that I'm jealous of you, well I'm not".. like an 8 year old..(these were her first remarks to me)
so all of you who got on the diss elle train..fuck u, ok, clear enough?

didn't you take your fat ass outta here, in a big dramatic way?
what happened gina?
it's sickening even having to scroll by your insanity.

OH! and look at all the anons THAT LEFT THIS PLACE come crawling out of the woodwork like slimey bugs,to get their gutless, 2 cents in. it's a wonder you can stop shoving food in your mouths for 2 minutes to even type a message..let alone fit those gargantuan asses into a chair
wooooooo00000000.."troll"...ach.. "twat"! yikes! don't hurt me!

"going postal" woooo! ahhhh! the big cliche of the month.
the lemming line starts HERE. hurry don't miss out chips.

thanks socal or social

Top ten reasons Don and Walt skipped
Java Jimmy's Bad-Ass Poetry Slam

11) at the time it was un Ballah vable
10) too busy wrangling up bodacious cowboys
9) bad taste left after the expanding man's head burst the last time they attended
8) the internet font version doesn't do E E Cummings well
7) too much caffiene and it's time to cross that old man back in Oregon
6) who needs an audience when you have hired studio guns hanging around
5) naming a sonet after a band after a beat poet's love toy is kinda a hard expanding universe like thing to follow
4) why be pompous when you can be witty
3) after take 26 who want's to hear anything but a well syncd drum track
2) not enough Dr Wu to go around at Last Piaster's
1) don't own the thesaurus, obtained a life instead

Can we see some photos of that?

........and Cyn on Elle.

wormy ~

Don't know if it was a typo or intentional, but I like the new name you gave me ~ socal hermit. With just a little change in case, I become where I now live ~ SoCal Hermit.

I will respond to either name, but, like always, it will not be an immediate response. I have to wait for the echo to reverberate at least nine or ten times before I hear it.

ballah ~ The combination of young, stupid, and drunk is quite powerful. It has the ability to conjour up misdelivered pizzas, late night phone calls to ex-girlfriends, and most notably with you, the idea that whatever you say is somehow deeply profound and should be shared with the masses. Luckily though, when normal people feel this, most of their thoughts are merely spoken, so the idiosy of them all are left to only float in the air as a memory. A memory that you can later defend as happening slightly different to the one you are reminded of by eyewitnesses, in order for you to save face. But, when it's put on paper and shown to people, that, that is where you have no defense. There's always some fool at the end of the bar who thinks he's Kerouac or Bukowski, rambling on and on in what may seem poetic at the time, but later is unveiled as prosaic and fumbling when it is discovered that the thoughts behind the word are shallow. It's Creative Writing 101. College freshman getting hard over the fact that, wow, we can write swear words and say things about girls! And then running to your frat brothers and showing them your research paper on "Anal Entry - Does A Woman's No Really Mean Yes?" You said we have "old, leathery keyboards". Well, at least leather is real, organic. I imagine that yours is naugahide. Phony and dated. Get over yourself. Or, at the very least, leave here and go hang out at a coffee shop and read your shit at Java Jimmy's Bad-Ass Poetry Slam!

P.S. Reading Salinger while taking acid is not advised.

Sigh.

Later,

Herm

Clas, old buddy...it's "Pointalism"

How's Pompe doing?

OH Aus.....LOLOL, That is so FUNNY!!!! Haven't caught CNN since this early am, going to check out the idiots condiction.

And all you New Yorkers have a Little League Team to be PROUD of, The Bronx Bombers!!!! This kids are a class act, they don't have a lush million dollar field to practice on (as in some suburban areas) but they all have game in their heart. Their pitcher has kicked ass and pitched a first time LL perfect game last night. So heres your ESPN time for this evening...8:00 pm EST. They are going up against Oceanside, Ca.(very tough team). It appears the Prez might be there at tonights game, Secret Service was scoping(scooping?) the field yesterday. The Yankees are watching these kids......God, ya just gotta love the underdogs!!!!

Now, back to you Jim....for the weather report.

W1P - yeah! Cool, I didn't know that. But, say it again, Angel didn't hear.

C

Ó...but The Eagles may have wrote it that way, to mimic Steely Dan's writing style...Ó

Hell Angel, I just SAID that, didn't I? Damn...

Randy - StAl is doing a great job with this GBook, I mean, his doing a great job without doing anything with it. If it was no stupidity-posts, there would be no brilliant, funny-as-hell-posts. I laugh at things you think are bullshit/garbage.

The only thing I think he should edit are the dots. Too many people are doing way too many dots. I was in Paris some weeks ago, and at a museum there was a painter who had painted pictures with small small dots. Thousands of them, it made my eyes cry. The technique is called Dotism, great shit only if you look at it from a distance.

But at a GuestBook like this; three (3) dots, nothing more, nothing less, space after dots... like this... so... GOT IT!?

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STONE PIANO will soon be up on:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/galleri/

Vincent van Lundkvist has been busy looking into his archives.

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Gina, does that mean you will not be able to see Micky? If that is, too bad.

And hey, email me, it would be great if we could do some music uh?

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Pousses Sortie,

C

No need to be sorry, angel, Roger actually said that on April 25, 1975 at the Los Angeles Sports Arena. Though it is likely that he was inspired by "it's . . . squash" it also was a fitting comment for a song that is a scathing commentary on the life of a middle manager/junior executive.

Randy: Stick around partner (though I realize how tough it can be). Like reading a Hunter Thompson novel -- many gems to be found inside (mostly) lunatic ravings...

StAl

Hey Randy - you should form a band with Steveedan on keyboards & Elle on vocals...

St. Alphonso - I was speaking figuratively when I suggested that "some posts (and their correlating posters) SHOULD BE DELETED..."

ALL should be able to speak their minds, but I was merely making the observation (in my own understated, unendingly sarcastic and ascerbic fashion) that some of these minds (and not even most, I might add) are seething with pure, deplorable drivel (as is usually the case with any online public forum).

I'm sure many reading THIS post are already saying, "hey, scurvy brother, if ya don't dig it, go elsewhere..." but it was more about how I have this friend with a contact, who, for the right renumeration (something in the five figure range, perhaps), would have no trouble "deleting" whoever might deserve it...

Just thought things could be a little less antagonistic (and thus less boring) if everyone put a little more THOUGHT into what they're posting. I prefer the engaging "Sign In Stranger: Steely Dan Guestbook" over "The National Enquirer"-

"The things that pass for knowledge I can't understand..."

- Steely Dan, "Reelin' In The Years"

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com

Randy: Noooo noo no. We don't do that 'round these here parts. See http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/guestbook/faq.html for the "official" word on censorship.

Aussie: NYC certainly doesn't hold the key to the funny farm, although, considering you're (NYC) responsible for those GODDAMN YANKEES, you gets whats you deserves. SEE YOU IN OCTOBER, MISTER!

Ballah: zzzzzzz

StAl

Like I haven't made myself clear about this kind of thing already. No brainer who pulled that one again... jeez
If you want a popular guestbook, get your own.

Your comment on Ballah was priceless

Speaking of humor, scroll through the Amen Corner for a good laugh or two, sort of a wierd planet vibe going there.

http://books.dreambook.com/blaisie/main.html

This morning, some bonehead para-sails right into the torch of the Statue of Liberty in NY Harbor. He's dangling from the torch right now as rescue efforts are underway.

Only in NY folks.

Aus

Some of the recent posts here are way too funny...

Ballah, yours in particular had me in stitches. May I suggest you get some fiber in your diet? After reading your post, I got the impression that you need some relief.

Later all!

Some posts (and their correlating posters) SHOULD BE DELETED.

"...Maybe it's the skeevy look in your eyes / Or that your mind has turned to applesauce / The dreary architecture of your soul..."
-Steely Dan, "Cousin Dupree"

You think ballah is funny? I'm funny, you sniveling, sinuous, swarmy, snow-brained suckers...

Oh well I guess it's you then... whatever... same shit to me.

Blaise-- If you thought NY Bill was MOD....well, then you really are an idiot!

Gina - Don't get stevie more pissed off than he already is. I see it more as a "public folder" thingie in corporate email parlance. And I wouldn't mind if Ballah came around. Nope... wouldn't mind at all...
If I felt this was in any way a threat to StAL's well-established online endeavours, I would close shop in a NY minute. IMO, it is not comparable at all in scope. Everyone who posts there also posts here and then some.
And the Fagen reference is my personal choice. I've made myself clear about this before. No need to stress this issue again. It's all a question of balance, in the end, is all.

caught James Taylor last night, fine form, great new material and humor
can provide wormian color if anyone's interested
Dr Wu - MENSA Dan Powerball answer
what is Gaucho (Aja almost fits this one too)
glad my Rundgren tidbit stirred Socal Hermit out form among the edge of the Banyan trees
Yes Brecker and Derringer, the Sales being more oblique
and showed up with Bowie on occasion as well
Stevie - the Amen corner is in no way aim to superseed the Banyan Trees, it's merely a place where we can get a little loose and keeps these pages a little less cluttered
Gina posed what would it be like if the Dan wrote Hotel California?
they did...
It starts out
"Drive West on Sunset to the sea...."
a slightly different prison
extra bonus round
contact, survivial, dispair, backwater, gateway, diversion, kicked, timeless, ruthless, pawn, distracting
wt

why don't you tell the truth now, Blaise?
your pad is the Banyan Tree Backyard and as soon as Wormy stirred the soil the rest of us digs in, shoveled and spaded to get us close to Walter Becker's place and whatever secrets he may have hidden in his backyard. and yes, dedicating the pad to Donald Fagen is a clever disguise and close to truth all the same, for if anyone knows Walter's secret, it's Donald for sure.

well, to my surprise i even had a dream about Steely Dan last night. about a concert and people backstage and a castle .. since Donald Fagen had a leading role in it and sang a little song, i can't help but share this in the most appropriate environment, being the Neo_Cult place.

and i don't mind keeping Don King from unemployment, really.
but not before he explains, top ten wise maybe, what exactly are the rules for a catfight, generally?

Banyan Tree SD Covers Jig Saw Puzzle Bow,
G.

and that "Stupid Tree" fell in the neighbour's garden, oops Cyn, i think it's now being torn to shreds by some monster Chinchilla's? what a way to go down :-)
to me these insults are not even personally directed, it's like they escaped from the various network sitcoms your country produces. don't even dare to tell if they're good or bad, creatively spoken. they do have an entertainment value!

hi there Steviedan, mr Jean Paul Bourelly resides in Germany and i was only introduced to his music in January this year. very much so like Eric Johnson, who is "hot" these days? it's the lick of their sound that accords with an appetite for more raw material these days. there's just too much music out there to be able to listen to ...
and doc Mu, that One Nil by Neil Finn is like Walter Becker's in a way .. the two poles from Crowded House and the two from Steely Dan and their solo projects. Neil definitely like the fire that attracted the nightfly .. who was so rare he did't get burned nor blinded by the light! ah, must be the shades he wore :-)

Banyan Don't Hold Yer Yokes Down Bow,
G.

NY... huh... Bill, didn't you sign off as MOD already? Refering to yourself by name is kind of a giveaway, you know.

And Ballah is actually welcomed back... hmm... speaks for itself on the state of things around here. David should ask his Florida friend Chere how she feels about that. I for one don't feel that last one was funny but hey... to each his/her own. There's obviously space for everyone (and I mean anyone) here.

Alright, let me get ths straight: someone posts from Brazil or whatever in English asking if lyrics are translated in Portuguese, which that person obviously speaks as well... I guess if you can't find what you're looking for, DIY, eh?

stevie - I am not serious about any of it. It is nice the way it is though with five or six GB regulars doing sidebars like that. Now, if too many folks object, we'll just flush the damn thing. How's that? This is still the main place. Everyone will tell you just that. And if I ever come across any news, I will still drop it here first.

I wish Aja would come around and visit my little pad too.
Aja, were you gone all this time I was away? Say yes. Ah come on... just lie. It's comforting.

Whoever advanced the idea that Donald's solo effort would come out first just might have a point, I think. Who knows how long he's been brewing it on the side?
Wetside is for the Next (Steely) One. I just know it. This song is just too good to dismiss. I repeat. Any takers on a friendly, "lack of financial leverage" bet.

http://www.steelydan.com/deadhead.html

blaise, i didn't mean to raise the rouge, hoss. someone did tip me off, being cool keepin' stevie in the loop. it's all good. i read the whole damn thing and just ran out of time before i could think of something clever to say. content and company were delightful. too delightful actually, and the prospects of all that great creativity by some of my fave gb peeps (one being yourself) being diverted was disheartening. mainly because alas, this place is all i have time for. i've even given up lurking the blue and i have complete admiration of hoops and his efforts, as well. please do not assume ill will when i am just being possessive of you...

eLLe, please give gina a chance. she was really trying hand you an olive branch and you composted it with the egg shells...

brothers and sisters, we must all stand as one in the face of our prodigal nemesis, the legendary shotcallah, ballah II...

(lololololololol)...

stevee, i really appreciate those way too kind words and jj, stevee is right about "johnny's garden", it IS manassas. the elton tune is "empty garden (hey, hey johnny)" from the "jump up" album...

wormy, 'twas not obstinance towards shouting an amen but merely that church let out as i was finishing the bible. forgive me. i knew you'd catch me here later. the rungren jes-song i've merely heard about. i do, however, have the vinyl 45 of "if jesse don't like it" by loudon wainwright III, a ditty about jesse's stand on "homo" arts funding that's hilarious AND also available on one of his albums, i think. herm beat me to the derringer connection...

speaking of herm, almost mythically on cue, here come the reinforcments. aja, (ready to) rumblestrip. back down, ballah. you are outwitted and outmatched...

superdans away !

Hello Earthlings...,

Well after giving this some serious thought (hey, i am capable
of doing that once in a while...) I've decided that this will
be the last corespondence from NYBill(Try to keep the applause
down ok I'm trying to talk here...)

The reason for such action? Well, NYBill is somewhat of a loose
canon when it comes to certain subjects and percieved personality
types. You see, when NYBill feels that someone is trying to use
thier experiences or financial position in an attempt to leverage
respect from people, well... NYBill just won't stand for that.
Hence, the infamous email.

In any case, it's been really interesting and amusing to talk
to many of you online. Most of you are real quality people and
funny too!

For those of you who dont completely despise NYBill you can
email him at Riviera@optonline.net

Take Care,
NYBill

Speaking of phalling. As in PHOR IT, moron.

W1P: Sorry but that line is a take-off from Monty Python's "The Piranha Brothers" routine. "He was a cruel main, but fair"
Shine On You Crazy Diamond as the longest intro, I totally agree.

Fezo: Where the heck do you live in VA? Remind me never to visit you. An oversized Sally Hemmings on top of a Water Tower? Strange. Glad they finally caught the guy before another Luckless Pedestrian got it.

Wormy: You really did a great one on the Eagles. My favorite:
5) really "you are programmed to receive"
would walt and don ever do a lyric that lame?
Says it all, doesn't it.

Elis M Windham: I live for Steely Dan lyrics on my posts. Makes my day trying to come up with them. Whatever....
To answer your question. I don't know of any regulars who are from Brazil. You might want to try google.com and put in Steely Brazil. Might get some website hits that way. Good luck.

Good evening all....

Luckless Pedestrian....
(of course)

Clarify the word "Philly". If you are refering to equine terminology, That would be "Filly", Moron!

Lord knows, if you are TRYING to insult me, at least use a dictionary

Its appears you fell out of the "Stupid Tree" and hit every branch on the way down.........

People, I'm going to make this short and sweet, so as not to drag you from your sophistication for too long. Have any Dan lyrics been translated into Brazilian Portuguese? If so, where can I find them? If not, are there any Brazilian Dan fans on this page who might want to collaborate on such a translation?

You may resume.

Cyn is the most twat ever to post on the GB, without a doubt. If she weren't so putrid, I would have mistaken her for eLLe, but she IS the real thing! In fact, I saw her philly pressed on when the clap disconcerted her last night... between hooves she said "Oh philly you're so wonderful... now get me another diet hairspray!"

Yeah and if youse play wetside stevee I'll bring five or six others to your next gig

Hello All,I for one am really happy to see Ballah back on the Yellow. That's a Sick but Funny Bastard!
I know most of you Hipsters have seen the Steely Dan Dictionary...but for any newbies here it is: http://members.aol.com/danomalley/steelydan/

Later, David

yeah hmmm, yeah, hang on a second, lemme get my fucks in a row

Oh good, the Guestbook is back to "normal".

Aja

God. I can't wait. How will I spend the next few hours of my pathetic life until then?

Thanks for enhancing an otherwise worthless existence, Ball-less.

99?

OK, kids. Don't make me clear the room.

Wormy: Alright, to the MENSA Dan Powerball round:

Here are your clues:

sex and legal drugs, sex and both legal and illegal drugs, illegal drugs and sex, illegal sex, illegal drugs, illegal thoughts, illegal age

are you talking to me? If so, would that be a to, too, or what?

*yawn*

last one for the day .. i regret having posted that link to the Leo Kottke interview if it evoked what should not even be an issue here no more. so there's no need for others to go and pick on eLLe? it's only because i was the one posting that link, i bet if it came from someone else, she'd take it as a compliment or acknowledgement and communicate fairly civil about it.
an interesting cascade of thoughts however whirled upon the meaning of words .. truce or truth, like poise and poison.
we just can't get over stuff or along with everybody.

~~~~~~ is really in bis best soiled state recently.
jim# not far behind ..

toodles, G.

Ballah...

Very funny stuff. I could have sworn that I was listening to Holden Caulfield.

-Paige

Tried to order the Two Against Nature video at CDNOW as instructed in the DAN website but they only have on DVD. I did however find it at Amazon.com for $17.99 plus shipping. I originally taped it from public TV with all those hideous commercials so I'm glad I lost it and had to order one.

The guy worked with a bunch of retards and still managed to lose his job.

this culture looks pretty disturbed already

Remember the Prime Directive - do not disturb the cultures to which you visit...

Intelligent life on the Guestbook? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

and your point, ballah is?

God damn. Here it is, I don't know a year or so maybe more since I got fucking bored with this board and you fucks are still talking about the same old shit, bickering at each other, getting your pansy ass feelings hurt, sitting around like a bunch of dumbasses clickety clacking away at your worn out keyboards. Keyboards as worn out as your leathery old faces...as worn out as your eardrums and your corneas or irises or whatever the fuck. I'm sure you're all either scheduled for lasik surgery or you've got one of those freaky gigantic magnifying glass dealythings on your computer so you can scroll around and look at things really close. Did you ever see one of those things? They're for retards I tell you. Retards and dipshits. Just like you guys.

I knew this guy at the last place I worked who had one of those things. He was really wierd, I tell you. He had crossed eyes like a mongoloid or something, and he was ugly as the ass of a newborn wildebeest. This son of a bitch was blinder than Ray Charles for christsake, and he was an asshole to boot. He almost ran into me one day, probably because of the fact that I appeared as a blur to him. He got all pissy and said someshit like, "watch out, why don't ya?" Well, I just told him that he needed to watch out himself, that is, or go get a new pair of fricking glasses. And then the next day, I saw the same poor bastard reading the bible during lunch. There was this area where people would lounge around on couches and sleep, or eat their crappy fast food out of paper McDonalds bags or whatever, and this guy sat out there in the middle of all the other retards in the couch area reading his stupid bible. All the spasmos were sitting around the lounge picking at themselves and sniffing their armpits, and here this holier than thou crossed eye freak was reading his bible, and the funniest thing about it was he had the god damned bible right up in front of his face like he was really really interested in it, or like he really wanted people to know that he just LOVED his stupid bible. Well, I knew that he was doing that because he was dropped on his head as a child and because the fucker'd gone blind or whatever. He looked like one of those crazy toys that have the eyes that spin all around, I don't know if you know what I'm talking about, but that's what his eyeballs looked like. And I think he cut his own hair, or either that maybe he went to Procuts and got the Vietnamese lady who didn't know english too well. This poor jackass fuck said he wanted a little off the side or whatever, and the Vietnam lady just went to town and jacked his head up good. Not only that, but the kid had a moustache to boot, one of those really passe 1970's, sort of Larry Bird looking moustaches. Man, what a piss poor screwball kind of a guy. Anyway, all of you remind me of this guy, the bible-in-the-face guy. So, as far as I'm concerned, you can all just toss my salad.

later,

ballah

Elle is the most pretentious twat ever to post on the GB, without a doubt. If she weren't so stupid, I would have mistaken her for a troll, but she IS the real thing! In fact, I saw her giving Billy Preston a knobjob at the Clapton concert last night...between splorping noises, she said, "Oh Billy...you're so wonderful - now GET me another Diet Pepsi!"

Damn...
Almost got there.

eLLe, for god's sake, wouldja just RELAX?!! Christ, can't post anything to you without you getting all postal on the poster, sheesh!

Hey all,

Daddy don't live in that NYC no more (though he was here in the 50's), but I am here for the week! Shout out to apple-dwellers, drop me an e if you'd like to meet the legendary (?!) rumblestrip! Leave out the NOSPAMs of course...

well eLLe, i guess a friendly word from my part is wasted on you!
and my initial sense about you not far from "truth", my own perception that is ofcourse. it's not solely about ms Jones nor an obsession, but i take it these words are uttered in hostility rather than a genuine opinion on matters. too bad. the finer layers in any music are not for your ears then, right?

you did show improvement in your postings here, compared to your entrance. you talked seriously about music, copied pasted some info etc. but my mistake if i thought there was more depth to you than you obviously show making a comment like you do on that interview. for someone who claimed she's been around musicians a lot and knows or cares about their world of imagery, background information like that on music one listens to is usually what comes with the territory. and appreciated.
i know i was glad to have found these american sites on Steely Dan, for they provide all kinds of information i would normally not get a hold of here in the Netherlands.
but you don't want to hear about this, do you?

so stay in Grudgeville if you like, eLLe.
thank you for claryfing!

Randy and Fretless- Thanx for the opinions on the Parker Flys (or flies?). I'm getting more drugged with their sound every time I play them, especially when I compare a "rael" guitar to them. Their nylon string Fly is a monster though.
A guy who recorded at DF and WB's studio in NYC gave me the hardsell on them. I should've taken the hint when he told me DF told him he thought his band sucked-right to his face! And he was engineering the CD! Ya gotta admire that honesty.
A friend of mine just bought a Heritage Sweet 16 and is in love with the thing. I think that might be the way to go. I've been "in between" guitars for so long (after my Gibson Barney Kessell Custom passed away)it's embarassing.
Well, the Doctor is off to Brooklyn, to try and drown out an entire big band with just his (school's!) Fender and a Roland Cube. The Doctor shall be in over the weekend, perhaps.

Wormy ~

The simplest connection I can make is through Rick Derringer and the Brecker Brothers.

Derringer performed on Todd's "Something/Anything", "A Wizard, A True Star", "Initiation" & "Back To The Bars". And, we all know the derringer connection with SD

Breckers performed on Todd's "S/A", "AWATS", and "Todd". And with SD countless times.

How about one a bit more esoteric? It takes another level, but here goes: Hunt and Tony Sales, (offspring of Soupy), played on "Runt", "A Ballad Of T.R.", as well as "S/A". They were also on an album by Michael Bruce called, "In My Own Way", which included drumming by Timothy B. Schmitt.

I'll bet there's other connections as well, so, have fun.

Later,

Herm

fezo: Does this mean a new ''punk-prep" look at UVa with bullet holes through Tommy Hilfiger shirts or safety pins through Izod 'gators?

When the eagles reformed & toured Britain again the tour was billed as
''Hell freezez over''

LOL of to see planet of the apes
See ya

I glanced over the article.
I am one of those people that listens to music, and doesn't really want to know alot about the artist.
Although the instruments, or "extentions of themselves or their souls" as some put it, I am interested in.
The artist's personal life is not what I'm after ..unless it's clearly coming across in his/her music, which is the case for alot of musicians, composing from their experience,internal and external which is what makes them endearing to us, as we can relate. That and a snappy tune that we can sing along to.

But, if the message is coming across,lyrically,or musically that's cool. I don't like to go snooping. Sure I can 'name drop' here and there, I am after all human, and curious.
But don't try to involve me in your obsession with Jones.
thankyou

sniper update: taken alive mid-afternoon about one block from the coal tower. it's kinda creepy as i key this to look out my window at the tower and realize that about a day and a half ago he was up there firing away.

odd tower note: it's about a half mile from Monticello. in "honor" of TJ's nearby presence and his alleged dalliance with Sally Hemmings, an oversized metal representation of Miss Hemmings stands atop the tower, occassionally clad in a white plantation dress.

W1P: I think Pros and Cons is overlooked cause it so painfully lacks any tunes, the disc is practically spoken word with an occasional Clapton guitar solo thrown in. The words rule, though, so I've always dug it. Very seductive, great date music.

I'll save off-topic ramble on the wonder of "Amused To Death" for another day

Blaise- bonjour, merci,it is cool, but sophisticated?
em, possibly
; )

oh, i figured if Cyn can outsmart the anon by taking his hairspray oneliner and use it with a smile, you would understand it too. sorry if you didn't?

it's a link to a very nice interview on the making of that Leo Kottke album Peculiaroso, eLLe. since you posted that one in a list, i thought you might like some background info to what you listen to.

but if i still make you feel bad, i'll just get out of your hair. sprayed or not :-)

Amen Corner Finger Drum Roll,
G.

why would THAT do? me? in between a facial and hairspray?
are you throwing those things in my face as cheapo, trashie insults?
pffffffffffffft, pathetic.

Here's some personal news (for those who might care)...

I've been made 'moderator' of the official Crosby, Stills & Nash "Questions" forum. What that means is this: when people go to the CSN site and have questions about the band(musical/personal history), I'm the one who answers them. I also have a slot as a 'staff writer' of sorts, which should allow me to write commentaries on the band or album reviews. If you're interested, go to:

www.crosbystillsnash.com

then click on the link for the "CSN Forum" and scroll down to my section. Still knocking on the door to the Steely Dan and Andy Summers sites...

Hope you dig it-

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com

12th reason Dan no write Hotel Cal

The left wing hooey just stunk up the joint (a phatty, I presume)

Longest "intro" -- has to be Shine on You Crazy Diamond. Of course, a "DJ" would probably not know that (even an AOR DJ) because that track was rarely heard on the radio ("you've got to listen to the radio and respect the radio. What if you woke up and there was no radio. It could happen you know, 1984 is not that far away").

Pros & Cons -- I think Clapton makes that Lp fairly tolerable. Nevertheless, I think Roger's best solo is Amused to Death (though some would argue The Final Cut!). Re: Henley -- Roger claims he was inspired to tour in 99-00 as a result of his performance at the Walden Woods benefit with Henley in 1992 (or thereabouts). Now that's what you called delayed gratification.

Little River Band next to the Wall? I have a similar lineup -- Which One's Pink? Live at House of Blues (disc 1) next to Time/Life's AM Gold 1972. It never rains in California.

I recently was writing a legal brief and came up with these incipient song lyrics: "the brain can be injured without a blow, sloshing back and forth in the skull, like Jello in a bowl."

Love W1P "It was a cruel song, but fair" Roger Waters 4/26/75 commenting on "You Gotta Be Crazy" -- the precursor to Dogs.

SteveE: I think that's darmed close - great song! Maybe on the Next One??

Blaise: Hey, I knew there was more to Montreal than the Raelians...

lp: True Companion. Now THAT'S an intro!!

Jesse - for one who called his opponents gay (Jim Hunt) or Buckwheat (Harvey Gantt), who is fatherless and sounds uneducated??...until he answers for his crime...

top ten reasons the dan didn't write hotel california

11) stab it with their steely knives?
more likely a twist and shout
10) who needs mirrors on the ceiling and pink champagne on ice when Susan St James is your bedfellow?
9) why choose a dark desert highway when you can drive west on sunset to the sea?
8) no mention of underaged rollerskaters, no wonder it's a prison
7) oleanders beat colitas any day
6) we already know what happened at the good motel
5) really "you are programmed to receive"
would walt and don ever do a lyric that lame?
4) to hell will a hotel, it's those corporate skyscrapers that are monsterous
3) the church of satan didn't hang with reclusive studio jacks
2) she serves the smooth retsina, not no 69 chardonnet
1) that large ego looming behind the drums was too busy building the perfect beast

gimt

Does Hotel California still have the status as having the longest intro? I remember the DJ's making that comment when it first came on the air.

My Frommer-like guide to Steely Dan posting:

yellow - steely dan related thoughts, comments on other bands, personal check-in's with the masses and sybil-like outpourings of stress releases and general what-not - a good cafe where the cuban breezes are tasty and the escargot is not to be beat

blue - higher steely dan thoughts and general lurkdom reading other higher steely dan thoughts i'm not worthy to respond to - like having a martini at the ritz where i'm a little underdressed

amen corner - the back room of steely dan personal connections, the room has nicer chairs and the kneelers are well padded - often a scene from what a shame about me in conversation mode

yahoo steely dan site - check in to post steely dan thoughts with non-yellow people - like crashing someone's keg party

talkcity - well, i check it, but nobody seems to go there :( ah well, no biggie - but i use the chat room for private parties that are professionally catered

st al's chat room - general mayhem connecting with the people on the yellow and its lurkers and a few that fall in from parts unknown (guest1 indeed) - a loud party that has a nice patio for quiet crimes and misdemeanors

they are all worthy of attention, it all depends on what you want to say i guess, or imbibe

oh and Donald would probably even sing it better, the Hotel California one, regardless if the rumor beared/bared any grounds?

Clas, i have to let go of seeing Mr Mac in Kopenhagen, how about Howard in Oxford, will Howard see him in Apollo i wonder?

i rarely think of this GB being archived on the SD server. i NEVER think of that, actually. and i probably won't start now :-)

Amen Corner FingerDrum Roll .. oops?
G.

http://guitarmusic.org/kottke/gmm941.html

well eLle, this might just do in between the hairspray and a facial :-)

Good day all....

Steviedan: Fractionalized. I hope not. No one knows what the future holds, but I still see the pages of yellow as THE place for posting. I too have a tendency to be attracted to the fact that this online forum archives onto the SD website. I also enjoy give and take and I usually get that here. I don't like when no one answers questions. It definitely gets me upset. I don't know why very few post over on the blue, but it takes a lot to pull me out of lurkdom there. As to the Amen Corner, you saw what it is and is not. SD related, not really.
When it is, I tend to send the post over here, for exactly that archive reason.

Paige: Has brought up the possibility of Hotel California actually being influenced in its writing by D & W. Check out the Blue pages for that inquiry. It is indeed a very dark song, but The Eagles may have wrote it that way, to mimic Steely Dan's writing style. With the full intention of placing the "Steely Knives" line within an appropriate vehicle.

Steveedan: Wetside Story. You really are thinking of performing that song live? With THOSE lyrics...? :-)
Just kidding. Let me know when. Email is fine.

When you jump to the Wetside....

blaiser's back

steviedan - you visited Amen without saying hi
Speaking of Jesse Helms, ever hear the Todd song
heavily bootlegged during the Second Wind tour
"f ing Jesse Helms"?

cynn - bare trees is one of my favs along with Mystery to Me
"she comes in like a hurricane..."
now if I could only sing like Paul McCartney and get funky like Etta James

Randy - I own a Heritage P150 - it's the Les Paul version
beautiful guitar, incredible construction,and the tones
their hollow bodies are to die for

jj - For the Roses is very nice - alot of mix of piano and guitar
songs similiar to Court in that respect. Although I think she wears her agast for that NC crooner a bit on her sleeve on this one (watching your hairline recede my vain darling was more my style) A real nice album, much more accessible than the Seagull and Laurel Canyon stuff. Waiting for Cara Mia to pounce

tonight's options on the really big show
and I'm passing on all of them
David Byrne, James Taylor, Nsync
plus 30 or so clubs local flair

random dan trivia
link todd rundgren to dan in 3 or less degrees of separation two different ways

personally I think that fast synth intro to YGTII sounds very Something Anythingish

toodles from the topsoil

wt

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In Iceland Bjšrk means Bitch-three.

C

Bjšrk means Birch tree in Sweden.

Blaise - OUI! Abba in Australia used to be ÓBjšrn AgainÓ (in Greenland there's a cover Bjšrk; Bjšrk Again).

Bjšrk m

For you Manahattman-Abba-fans, Mama Mia is doing well on Broadway. Go see.

C

Blaise - A 440 it used to be, yes.

Paige - re Hotel California; I read recently Henley saying they were INSPIRED in the Steely Danish way of writing lyrics when they wrote HC.

I doubt The Two had anything else to do with the lyrics.

IN MY HUMBLE OPINION OF COURSE!

C

Hey hey JJ --

Wasn't that Elton John song called "Hey Hey Johnny", with something about a garden. I can't remember.

Bye Bye --

Steveedan Steveedan

Clas - I was just making sure I was still alive for real, is all. Mike McDonald, huh? Make sure it's Michael McDonald you're going to see there and not one of those bearded, hefty lounge singers paying tribute. Remember: for every Shania Twain there's a Shania Twin, for every Abba, a Dancing Queens. For every Steely Dan well... there's a dozen tribute bands, you know. Just look at StAl's link page where my handle is now forever consecrated. Enjoy. The Mcdoobie's voice is my second fave behind Fagen's, btw. Only wish he had more material to work with.
For every web site, there's a guestbook, stevie. I never advertised mine out of respect for the officially ODP-linked one alright. It is NOT a Steely Dan guestbook per se, just a tengentially Dan-related one at best. In fact, one might get the idea that it's really about me and if that's not reason enough to stay away, I don't know what is. Did someone email you about it? Be careful with those, as they often contain deadly viruses. Delete offending mail immediatly upon receipt. My sincere apologies if any harm was done.
Someone still listens to Waters's Pros and Cons, whoda thunk it? Great Clapton guitar work throughout that one, if I remember correctly and it's a perfect excuse to mention that W1P is still on my mind this morning. No Yoko, it was not in vain.

Top five things I listen to lately:

- The pleasant hum of my brand new fridge. I think it's a low C but I'm not sure and it's driving me insane. What happens when you don't have perfect pitch...
- The sound of my new phone. Now I know that one gives out an A when you pick it up, right, Clas?
- Whatever elle is listening to 'cause it just sounds so cool and sophisticated.
- A beamed up drive image of the new, belated Gabriel songs, courtesy of Seattle's own Mr Beemer.
- My well-worn collection of "Steely Dan live 2000" mp3s mixed with the 2000 ways I imagine the next Fagen output will sound like.

Q - Thanks for the fat packet. I had been waiting patiently for that one.
Roy Scam - I count my blessings for two mentions in the same year. In my opinion, there is noone better in Dandom than you, sir, as far as song analysis is concerned.
Mu - One fine day, sir, you will realize that Montreal does have something to offer the world after all. Told ya so.

..a quiet night...no calls...no money..

Steviedan:"rollin my stone" is on the album that you least liked of the two?! Well, I guess I better be prepared for a mind-opening experience and buy both. Unfortunately the only record store within 1hr&1/2's drive has little selection and orderd CD's run around 25$. But I have next week off and the Busker festival is in Halifax so this fri. I'm going to the big city(sarcasm there).
I'm surprised anyone's heard of LIghthouse. Their live double album was a cooker.

Steveedan: Howdy. I think Johhny's garden was an Elton John song off of "Jump".

On call again Thurs. Have a calm one.

To Mr. Steviedan - my namesake - Your post this evening was nothing short of inspirational. You express what I really feel about music in general and Steely Dan specifically. Your range of musical tastes is truly impressive. As much as I like to think I know (a lot !), reading what you have to say about all of the diverse musical genres that you site is awe-inspiring. It makes me remember a simpler time in my life when I really did have the time to do massive surveys of music and really pour myself into it - like for days at a time. It is great to read your stuff sir. It would be a pleasure and an honor to meet you in the flesh someday. Hey, even an email from time to time would be great too. I just had to let you know all this ...

Angel - How's your week going? How's my protege doing? And his Daddy? I noticed that you and Blase (Hey Blaser !! Very nice indeed to see you scribing around here again. Your input is a necessary and chereshed item - column? - around here) and Oleander and Tomas Broberg had been trying to figure out the lyrics for Wetside Story and their meaning.

I recently discovered this un-officially-recorded song of SD's from the 7-21-96 Manassass, VA show CD. (You know what I am about to say ... here it is ...) I am working up a song chart of this song. I always start with the lyrics, so I remember this previous discussion that you made, and went digging in the GB Archives to find it (which I did). I printed out everything that I could find on this song, including a search on various less traveled SD lyrics sites. I have now constructed, as best as I could, the following set of lyrics for Wetside Story. I realize that they probably aren't perfect, but virtually no one knows this song. Who's going to know. Gee, I wonder if Walter or Donald are lurking ... yeah, right. Who am I kidding (besides me !?!)

WETSIDE STORY (Lyrics transcribed by Steveedan as best as he could)

How Mickey gets hungry
This wrangler's got to take a break some time
Got to feed the machine
Steamer Heaven is empty
Couple of kids in behind the counter
The lovely Janine
Soon as he walks through the door she's smilin'
Covers his eyes with his hands

{Chorus}
'Cause everyone knows that it's scary out there
When you jump to the wetside
Where it's cold or it's loud or it's screaming with light
And it's way complex
Hacking through all the harsh effects

The Mick goes for the Bomber
A thimble of wax with an angel food healing
The gunk on the top
Gives him back a reward
Holds back his tears and you can feel the flames arching
Off the roof of the shop
For a moment they spun on the edge of history
Fell into animal time

{Chorus}
'Cause everyone knows that it's scary out there
When you jump to the wetside
Where it's cold or it's loud or it's screaming with light
And it's way complex
Hacking through all the harsh effects

Blacked out on the tarmac
It was alive with the sweet sounds of summer
Oh, the Steamer's all right
Mick tries to remember
Somethin' kinda cool but it's already fading
Back to straight black and white
"Maybe I needed a bit of downtime"
Covers his eyes with his hands

{Extended Chorus}
'Cause everyone knows that it's scary out there
When you jump to the wetside
Where it's cold or it's loud or it's screaming with light (4 beat interlude)
Everyone knows that it's scary out there
When you jump to the wetside
Where it's cold or it's loud or it's screaming with light
And it's way complex
Hacking through all the harsh effects

This is what I came up with. Take care all - After I catch up with what I'm going to miss here through Sunday, I will sign in.

Again, Randy, please let me know about the Lefty Guitars for the pal in Hong Kong. Thanks.

Steveedan

... but the subterrainian political undertone series i'm feeling is that nc republicans might could get behind a miss libby dole. that would give us at least a gaming chance, since the rural contingency might not vote for a woman. then again, she'd have the "jessecrats" eating crackers off her pumps. hard call hardball.

wormpolice, guilty as charged but the rushroomie story was geometrically better ! the old b & o ? i'm there !

whoever said that the "what cd's you are listening to" thread is tired just can't appreciate the sd web community. a few recent killer highlights:

skully out of lurky with lester, django, darrol & barb, corey & henry... eLLe with leo... fretless, a man after my own kind with "honestly: live" by jaco... mc with les dudek... and jj with "one man dog" by jt (his most underrated album) and lighthouse for god's sake !

and the lists go on. you people are cool as shit.

jj, the song "rollin' my stone" is on the "down the road" album, but i definitely agree with randy & stevee that the first album is superior. stevee mentions "johnny's garden" which i believe was about john lennon. awesome tune. the album is sort of hugs a stylistic chasm between stills' electric blues and a more bluegrassy approach. my solution: buy both.

z, thanx SO much for the info. when in the ny, i have usually found record stores by giving cigarettes to bums, whom i've found to be more reliable than well-heeled lawyers or saint bernards. however, since i haven't smoked cigarettes in many years, your guidance will be essential and much appreciated.

angel, it seems we are becoming even more fractionalized. it was a blast of fresh air to have blazer rouge through today. brother, you have been missed by me. i visited the corner and enjoyed the repartee AND the heart worming tribute lol. but where does this all lead ? that we each end up with our own gb ? st. al's here is archived on the band's server and i guess that means something to me. maybe that means that our steely thoughts might be transmitted to pluto or uranus or myanus someday or maybe not. we define hardcore following, because there is no other band like Steely Dan. unity, to me seems natural for lovers of this music but then, i'm idealistic about music in general so i expect alot...

carry on.

BLAISE! Where the hell have you been? Sacre Cšr mon dammit! Pousess? Maladd? d'Orsay???

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Fretless - technicolor acid! Great stuff.

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I have tickets to Mike mc Donald, in October!

C

''Thai Takaway'' food not woman LOL

Going back a few days.....

Today Foo Fighters Drummer ''accidentaly'' OD's at the weekend V2001 festival forcing them to cancel the rest of the tour & a support tout with U2.

''Accidently'' clumsy oaf more like.

RIP Betty Edwards shoop shoop indeed.

Thanks for the BD shouts treated myself to an early night & a thai takeway.

Hey Randy -

It's cool, I was only slightly ribbing you about the Glam Prof chart. But you mentioned that you play lefty guitar. Would that be strung like Paul McCartney or Jimi Hendrix? I know a guy in Hong Kong (this is for real, not a joke) who sells Pat Metheny DVDs - I bought a few from him via eBay. He told me that he is a lefty guitarist who is looking for lefty guitars. If you know of anyone or a store or something that has lefty guitars for sale, please let me know, either here on the GB or at my email address. I will forward the information to our friend in Hong Kong. He will be really excited to get this information if it exists. On his behalf, thanks for any effort you put out for him. (By the way, I have always loved the Stills/Manassass song Johnny's Garden ... and I'll do anything I have to do, cut my hair and shine my shoes, and keep on singing the blues if I can stay here in Johnny's Garden.)

Now the rest of you can breathe a sigh of relief. That's right. No shameless plugging for a while (by me, anyway). My wife, baby boy and I are vacationing the rest of this week in SD land (no, that's not for Steely Dan land, but I would love to go to THAT amusement park), namely San Diego. My son turns 3 and I, well, don't, but we both share August 24 as our birthdays. I plan to meet up with the GB's very own Craigster and his daughter while we are down in SD. Unfortunately, I will not get to meet Aja, who will be out of town when I am down there.

Here's a thread that I would like to see if anyone has any interest or answers for:

2 songs - Your Gold Teeth (from Countdown To Ecstasy), and Your Gold Teeth II (from Katy Lied).

What is their connection? Why are they 2 albums apart? Is there a fixation by Don &/or Walt on gold teeth? Could gold teeth be a slang expression for dice, as in shooting craps? Who's got some other questions like these?

It's your game, the rules are your own, win or lose.

Take it easy -

Steveedan

Oysterhead tour starts in Seattle on October 21st. I've been waiting for this one for a while. Again, for those who don't know, Oysterhead is...Les Claypol (Bass), Stewart Copeland (Drums) and Trey Anastasio (Guitar). A monster band for sure.
Interesting stuff. Brooding, ethereal -- with an edge. Sort of like Roxy Music meets Primus. Anyone who doesn't like Phish or Primus will probably hate this band.. Check out http://www.oysterhead.com

StAl

Hey, can I borrow some shampoo & Scope?

Cool day in L.A. today.... Wow!

Thanks to all who posted today on the Blue Book. Gets me off the hook.

LP: Hope you figure out what's wrong with Mae Mae. So sorry.

Duncan: Happy Birthday to you and your twin. :-)

Wormy: Great top 10 for LP. Love the last 2 about the mug shots. St. Al, you watching. :-)

Crazy Z: I have looked at the Plush many times and always wonder about those people. There is no one I know there.
I do see Hoops on the Songwriters show, though.

Blaise: What can I say..... a very public "Welcome Back"

We're gonna break out the hats and hooters
When Blaisie comes home
We're gonna rev up the Amen Corner
When Blaisie comes home again
The Guest Book won't be the same
Tell the world that Donald is it
That Neo-Fagen admirer of cool music
Surf the web for tasty tidbits
That Blaisie's come home

When Blaisie comes home
So good
He's the pride of the Cyberhood
He's the raw flame
The live wire
He lives in Canada and
Keeps it all on fire

Good night all....

and the hooters and the hats.... (Ida Lee)

Jim#, Roy, anyone else in the greater Tidewater area....tomorrow (Wednesday) night at The Norva....Nickel Creek....should be a good show....wish I could be there!

time for a wee nap....'night all.

jj....how cool! I haven't seen our pileated peckers lately....but we haven't been here very much either....thanks for the thought.

in heavy rotation here lately:

The Strugglers - Done By The Strugglers

Les Dudek - Say No More

Nickel Creek - Nickel Creek

O Brother Where Art Thou - Soundtrack

Journey - Escape

Little River Band - Greatest Hits

Pink Floyd - The Wall (both discs)

Creed - Human Clay

Dire Straits - Communique

on the subject of Parker Fly guitars....a great idea and a cool guitar that tries to do several things and doesn't do a great job at any of them....I'll stick with my PRS & my Strat for electrics and my Taylor 12 string and Takamine for acoustic playing.

sorry I've missed some of the threads lately, hope to be around a bit more in the future....it's been a bit hectic for the laid back country boy here lately.

MC

cray zee - i know, but it ended up being a fun little thread - everyone here suspects me of many things i am sure - lol

One more thing, I have a cane up by my face, and wear a hearing aid.

I don't care what the media says, I'm not retiring!Those punk-ass liberals will have to carry me out kickin' and screamin' or in a pine box. Whichever comes first. My main goal for My last years in the Senate is to just say NO to everything. Why change mules in the middle of 40 acres? Read my lips (if you can see them thru the "nap" drool) NO, No, no! No, gay rights, No funding for programs like Head Start, No hippie/ enviromental crap, and NO just about anything else. Oh, Yeah,and just because I am such an ASS, no more websites devoted to that Devil Music, Rock and Roll. Even tho i do believe there is a song by Steely Dan about me....its called Gaucho?, Guacho?, Guano? or Groucho. I know its written about me because I hear those Commie Liberals sing it whenever I walk into Senate Chambers. Something about not being welcome here and where the hell is the Custerdome? Is it some code word made up by the Pinko Liberals for the Senate?

I have detectives on the case...they filmed the whole charade.

Randy: Thanks for the info.

MC: The nurses in outpatients spotted a baby pileated on a telephone pole playing peek-a-boo. Thought you'd appreciate that.

That was me...I spelled "Fagen" Fagan, My Humble Apologies to all. Would someone Please hold Oleanders hair back for her!

BTW...Thank You, I think I will have another drink.

lp -- I think you missed my point. I would never accuse you of such heinous conduct. Heck, I hardly know you! I was alluding to the fact that the situation described in fezo's post sounded a lot like the situation of "the bookkeeper's son" in "Don't Take Me Alive." Don't you realize the implied fate of "luckless pedestrian" in the song?

Bikini Pictures

And someone wrote FAGAN... AARRGGHH
That's the sound of oleander barfing.

no it's not PeculiarosOOOOO
it's Peculiaroso
and I'm as blind as bat without me glasses on
sorry 'bout that Leo

Will you people stop talking about cocaine? I'm getting all jonese here...

"JJ" - Buy "Stephen Stills - Manassas" (1972). "Manassas - Down The Road" (1973) is good, but the first one is an absolute classic. Stills himself (as well as many Stills fans) allegedly views the second album as a disappointment... It's a bit ragged, but still worthwhile.

"Fretless" - Thanks for the kind words... I do love the Heritage... I've had a bit of a renaissance with my Telecaster lately (it's PERFECT for replicating Becker's sound as well as Denny's), but the Heritage has been a joy to play. I run both guitars through an Ibanez Compressor, an Ibanez TS-90 Tube Screamer, an Ibanez Bi-Mode Phaser (on occasion), an Ibanez Digital Flanger, a Boss Digital Reverb/Delay, and out to a Fender DeVille 212 (60 watts). Strings? Ernie Ball .11's...

That's enough "tech talk" for me-

"Earthbound to Johnny boy / I just picked up your message / 'bout those Balinese ikats you thought I might buy..."
- Walter Becker, "Surf and/or Die"

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com

P.S. Hello to SH

http://www.foulds2000.freeserve.co.uk/bushv5.htm

Back from Procupine Mountains and thanks for the heads-up [literally] on the meteor shower. Adjusted plans to coincide with Aug 11-13th and saw quite a show over Lake Superior. Alas, aurora borealis not seen despite 12-year peak in sun cycle and higher probabilities. Then, it rained during the time I originally intended to be there. cool.

This a.m. found old guitar player mag [4/94] with an article by Walter regarding G.A.S. [gear acquisition syndrome]. "No, that guitar isn't new, honey... it's 25 years old". The guitar talk has tickled my fancy.

The first step is to admit that you are powerless over guitars-
speaking as one of the smitten, z: Parker Fly- extraodinary and innovative, a marriage of wood and synthetic materials, very light, very slick, very tweakable, and very expensive [until this year when they marketed a model in the $500-600 range]. It has more of a shredder vibe to my hands and I do not care for the profile of the neck [thin] the scale length, the fret wire or the fact that it's all ebony bonded to something closely resembling bicycle tubing. Slippery. It is not a versatile all-around axe [I'd categorize Randy's Heritage 535/Gibson ES 335 as such]. It doesn't have an organic brown sound at all, it demands processing for lack of depth. It plays like butter though- but, I'm a string bending circular vibrato kinda guy with callouses of steel. I fucking hated the thing.

Randy- extremely fine choice of finish for your 535. It must be mentioned. Not everyone can understand. I'd keep it on a stand next to the tv. the tv is off. i'm watching the guitar.
btw- do not overlook the Gretsch 6120, especially if you like pumpkins. The Bigsby does belong in jazz.

KidC discussers: did you know you can look up the synthesis of cocaine? See Journal of American Chemical Society April 25, 1979. Problem: per cent yield. too small to economically compete with leaves fresh from the jungle. But, not coke- technicolor acid! it once was legal. Harvard profs. Owsley III, liner note poem for Vincebus Eruptum, Blue Cheer! Merry Pranksters. Easy to make in your "kitchen", slang for a surreptitious chem lab making illegal drugs, a double entendre... you knew.

Acetone, ether- yes, wonderful organic solvents for performing "extractions" during steps of synthesis leaving insignificant amounts of unwanted residue in the desired product. Problem: if you go to a chem supply store and buy a gallon of either, you'll end up on a hot sheet and the DEA will be paying you a visit. People improvised, paranoid- using anything that would work to avoid getting busted without leaving too much toxic residue in the product- which could kill the user? Bad for business. Is the phone tapped?

in CDrom: Honestly, solo live- Jaco Pastorius, of coursius!
Fretless

Dear Blaise, come a little bit closer, you're my kind of man, so big and so strong . . . Anybody else think "Kidstuff" sounds like a mellowed out Allman Bros. cut?

yes cyn, i love that dam story - it's a favorite among us planner-geeks!

Your welcome Gina...horse psych. 101 is right down the hall from the SD Chat. And Yes, elle and I will send you some of our very special homemade hairspray...Not only will your hair be gleaming, but it will keep all anonposters away. Butterflies will swarm around your head like something out of Marques's "One Hundred Years of Solitude" and it will give you the confidence to look that horse in the eye....LOL

Dame Edna...You got the moon in your eyes...lol!

Last Five.................

SD Gaucho

Bonnie and Delaney..Best Of

Fleetwood Mac Bare Trees

Neil Young Harvest

Fagan Nightfly

Intimate Dinner (4? maybe 5?) party for son's college bound friends has now turn into a Dinner for 10-12. Decided to hire Our very own "RudeWaitress" to help out. Anyone seen her lately? Last I heard she was making 10 dozen home made tamales.

dinner menu for 12 college freshmen,

Appetizers
Shrimp, Shrimp and Shrimp

Wings, Wings and Wings

Main Course
London Broil, London Broil and Broil

Pasta Alfredo, Pasta and Pasta

Salad, salad and salad

Ice Cream Cake, Cheesecake and Cake Cake

LP...Did ya get the "Dam" Story? About the Dam Beavers? Thought it was right up your "dam" Alley.....LOL

sorry eLLe, it's PeculiarosOOOOOO

Good day,people. We've gotten a little rain, but not enough to allow any woodsy activities. At least the unbearable heat has gone. I spent the last 3 days terracing a slope with interlocking brick, with curves and rounded corners(almost gothic).

Fez: So the next time you go to work, it'll be in bulletproof shades and Armani flak jacket?

Duncan: Happy birthday to you and your sib, James. The books I was referring to a week ago were science fiction.

Stevie/Randy:Which Mannassas album do I want? Which one has "rolling my stone" on it? I didn't know there were 2.

wt: I don't have For the Roses either. Hang your head and sit someplace very dark. You're B&O cartridge was your cheap one?!?!

Tones: Interesting comments on China Camp. Bring in the Roxy review.

Blaise: Gone over to the dark side?

Randy:Last 5 cd's? I can't remember them, and it doesn't indicate really what I listen to on a regular basis. I know Joe's garage,Prince's Crystal Ball(good to do the dishes with), were amonst them.
Been warming up the vinyl lately, James Taylor-One Man Dog, Lighthouse-live,Led Zeppelin-Houses of the Holy.
Your previous question was a better way to suss out someone's collection(before and after SD). How about before and after Joni?

Roy Scam:Nice take on Black Cow, but then you've been told that.

Angel: Hi there! I don't have a cd changer either. I figure after an hour of music my mood's gonna change, so I'd have to get up and change it anyway.

hey, i play a lawyer on tv, does that count?

oh wait, i got a meeting tonight, gotta go get ready dammit!

gretchen, cancel my cuban breeze, get my lawyer on the phone, stat!!!!

i wait all night for calls like these...

top ten reasons LP is not only guilty but
should be thrown in the stocks

11) she's crossed more than an old man back in Oregon
10) who better to elude authorities than a building inspector
9) the gal is never on line, in chat or anything... get the rope
8) escape route?... she takes a taxi to the good motel
7) all the clues are in her last weeks posts
6) or were they on the back cover of abbey road?
5) Annie get your what?
4) if she can evade her boss at work and a civic planning group, certainly..
3) maybe she made off with Donald's old piano from the R&R HOF too
2) looks like it's time to make those mug shots disappear
1) oops, St Al did that already

cray zee: why, i was in a meeting at the time for work, or was i with, with, um, um, aus, yes that's it, aus, no, wait, it was jim#, yes, jim#, we were discussing the lack of a building code worth anything in the commonwealth of virginia, yeah, that's where i was, well, or maybe i was just in the amen corner with angel, wormy and gina patiently awaiting the return of our leader, blaise, hmm, i like that one, that's a much better alibi.......

Peter Tosh- The Scrolls of the Prophet
Trance Scapes-World Ambient Trance Music/Indigenous Australia
Leo Kottke-Peculiarosa
Hiroshima-Third Generation
The Moody Blues-Strange Times

"Z" asked about the e-mail address:

"Nightfly" was actually not my first choice, as there are many other albums/songs by the Dan and others that I would have liked to use, but they were all taken. It was chosen due to the Fagen album and it's original meaning, i.e. a (jazz) radio jock.

While "The Nightfly" is a four star album, I play it LESS than Becker's album and most of the Steely stuff, excepting "Can't Buy A Thrill" and "Countdown To Ecstacy" which I probably play the least.

Parker Guitars DO make a "Nightfly" model guitar, which I have not played. While they are nice guitars, they're not my style...

I have a customized Telecaster with two humbuckers dropped into it (black/rosewood fingerboard/coil tap) similar to what Denny Dias used to play in the early Dan days. I also have a "Heritage" H535 (almond Sunburst), which is very similar to the Gibson ES-335...

The "Heritage" company is made up of employees who used to work for Gibson. They got tired of making guitars on a production line, so they started their own company, and even bought the old Gibson factory in Kalamazoo, Michigan, so they could make custom, high quality guitars every bit as good as production line Gibsons. Next purchase though, is a Gibson ES-175, which I have always liked (natural finish/dot markers).

It's a wonder I've been able to find such great guitars, as I am also a LEFTY player (all my guitars are lefties)... While not a guitar "freak," I do like nice instruments... 'nough said already...

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com

P.S. "Steviedan" - Haven't had time to try "Glamour Profession"... Working on my own stuff... I'll let you know and thanks again...

Yo o o
So you think you can tell
Duncan from elle
Blue page from beige...

Mental note: have to pay attention to W1P.
Is that close enough? Happy now?

Hmm... clas didn't miss me.
Mental note goes w/o saying. Know what I'm saying?

Anywho... good to be back and
what have I found?
Same old queers
Wish we were peers...
not my usual time slot, I know, I know...
carry on

Stevie Dan- For Zappa-Subterranean Records- W.Village
For Jazz- Norman's Sound and Visions, and a few small stores on St.Mark's Place and Disc-o-rama in W.Village.
Unfortunately, the corporate conglomerate, Tower Records does have the best selection in Classical and Jazz, but you can find most of the jazz stuff in the above-mentioned stores at prices that never go above 12 bucks and can go as low as three.
This is part of a never-ending attempt by my niece and I to bring down the corporations of Tower, Virgin etc...

Here's my question. Sorry if this has been covered here before.

On the Plush DVD, there are a series of interviews with people outside apparently waiting to get into the show. Are any of the persons interviewed GB participants? Fess up.

Hey fezo -- Fortunately, our cyber friend luckless pedestrian was nowhere near the incident.

so some guy (lead suspect in recent double murder) climbs the coal tower about 1/4 mile from my office last night; squeezes off a few rounds at the approaching cops, who then decide to storm the tower at day break. SWAT teams pour in, the state police helicopter hovers, blah, blah, blah.

sun rises, cops race in, the guy is gone. local law enforcement at its best.

can't believe nobody posted anything since this morning? wow....back to amen corner...

oh that's right, angel, we got a little sidetracked - no, it was the 8 year old and we're still not sure what's wrong - she goes back to the doctors on Thursday - thanks for asking for her

Good thing I don't have a CD changer. What a diverse bunch. :-)

Roy Scam: That was one awesome piece of work on Black Cow. I didn't have Aja with me yesterday, so will have to try to listen today. I love hearing what others find of interest in a song.

To those who frequent the blue pages, what is the deal there. I had to finally beg someone to get me off the hook. 2 days and no posts. I have promised that I will bail her out if no one else posts in another 2. Come on, someone start a conversation.
Steely Dan related, yeah, we can swing that!

LP: I was trying to ask if your little one is getting better?
Friday, you indicated that the 2 year old was sick.

Good day all....

And get out of here....

That's great, Skully, but tell us why were you so impatient with Mulder in the repeat of "Three Words" last weekend?

today's listening

Lester Young - lester swings
Corey Harris and Henry Butler - Vu Du Menz
Django Reinhardt compilation
Darrol Anger / Barbara Higbie - Tideline
John Cale - Fear
Patti Smith - Radio Ethiopia

Byrds--Nashville West
Gram Parsons--GP
Dead--From the Vault
John Hiatt--Best of
Dave Holland--Conference of the Birds
Whiskeytown--Stranger's Almanac

thanks STEEVEEDAN for the Old School notes
Roy - really enjoyed your Black Cow dissertation
got to the essence of why the old tried and true still moves
StevenD - got a kick out of your warping the Phillip Glass record story
So you have prior experience and could shake down a flaky returner with the simplest of looks?
My favorite record experience involved a freshman dorm and a most irritatible roomate. Seems he had a propensity to wear my clothing when I wasn't around and play my "elaborate" (for a wet behind the ear's freshman) stereo whenever he wanted. THis clearly wasn't satisfactory, so I contemplated the prospect of resolution with this neanderthal and came up with an odd course of action, effective? and then some.
Well I curbed him of this habit with the best spent $3 I could ever think of. As he enjoyed this certain Canadian band with a high pitched singer who sounded like le castrado de vilo and thought nothing to put it on my turntable night and day. So devilish me precurred a copy of one Rush 2112 and set up my elaborate plan. I pulled out the purchased disc and sat back in his presence looking as if I was totally caught up in this music. He was a little taken and curious in my new found interest, after five minutes I walked over, a disgusted look on my face and slapped the needle across the turntable (I had changed out to my cheap Bang & Olufsen cartridge). He was in total shock and falling out of his chair...
I then proceeded to take the lp off the platter and smash it over my knee (thank God it broke). His jaw dropped and then his macho testosteronic impulses awoke and he was about to jump me for breaking his album... I backed up, showed him "his" copy and promptly told him to never touch my stuff again
I was on to other collegiate housing within a month, but will recall fondly the look on his face for all eternity
did it work? indeed
wt

Correct.
Don't forget James in France I'm a twin
Cheers

would it possibly be your birthday ?

this could be one of my first non-belated birthday wishes ever !

time zone guru ? does this qualify as an on-time birthday greeting ?

niacin - the second one

buddy rich - mercy mercy

new grass revival - on the boulevard

stephane grappelli/martin taylor - reunion

chicago - innovative guitar of terry kath

this is not normal. other than dennis chambers almost all these people are white. VERY unusual indeed...

z, what ARE the best music (cd) stores in the village (or nyc for that matter) ? i always ended up at tower. not planning to be there soon, but when i am...

tones, punks would kill to be as kool as sd. reich on aja (as wormy suggested) would be intriguing. (phillip) glass on aja reminds me of how i warped the lp of "glassworks" in a toaster oven in college, rendering it "defective" so i could exchange it for something remotely worth a shit. bread don't get whiter than that.

now, roy scam on aja ? ahh, yesss !

clas, i have found that the coupling of the words "cry" & "bill" & "evans" are indeed ALWAYS good... very good.

Stevedan - re My Old School; (Bb)-A..GÉA..G..Bb..A..G yes! And on top of that your little finger (pinkie?) is playing the E-note above.

Roy Scam - and Feldman played that solo right down on track.

And besides, I don't think those old jazz-foxes have to ÓproveÓ anything when they are on a Steely Dan session. It's just another gig. Listen what Wayne Shorter says on ÓThe Making Of AjaÓ.

C

35 sweet goodbyes !!

Hey, in the Bay Area circa 1979 "anything went"

Randy- I just went to a guitar store and found out it's called the Parker Fly, not the Nightfly- oops.

W1P: I thought Cha Chi's girl liked uhhhhhhh...WNBA players (not that there's anything wrong with that), soooo...ooooohhhhh I get it now...

W1P: Family board? Who the fuck are you kidding?

Steely Dan - Two Against Nature
Prefab Sprout - Jordan: The Comeback
Joe Henderson - Our Thing
Branford Marsalis - Renaissance
Neil Finn - One Nil

I had a shitty day, but science's irony at the end of the day made mine. I was wondering what Blaise was up to...

MONTREAL: Dr. Freda Miller and her research team at McGill University published in Nature Cell Biology that adult stem cells from deep skin dermal layer were used to could become nerve cells with the right coaxing. This is a huge leap. In adults, stem cells are plentyful in connective tissue: skin, muscle, bone, tendon, ligaments. But it was thought these cells (except maybe for muscle) were too mature to be used for anything but other connective tissue. The significance of this paper is that a tiny sliver of skin could become a pancreas, new brain cells for Alzheimer or Parkinson's patients. While the sex appeal is less than cloning (creating a twin separated by time), this discovery is far more significant...

I'm going to download and will provide a link...

I just banged a stewardess at 40,000 feet.

you're reduced to the what's-the-CD-player thread? come ON people. this place needs some sex and A-T-T-I-T-U-D-E

StAl, you da man (I thought of you yesterday when I drove by "Zappa Records" on Ventura Blvd) Uncle Charlie's is it! I met Erin Moran there once. No details allowed on this family board.

chat?

z-- Was that another one of your jealous wise ass remarks concerning Dias? What's the matter, you think he sucks to? I know, I know, you once played with him at a wedding and he missed some notes.

Three weeks till school starts!

Randy- Interesting records. Bauer taught Denny Diaz to play jazz guitar, I'm still waiting to hear how good a job he did.
"Plectrist" was the only commercially available record Bauer ever made as a leader in his over 70 year career as a musician.
He sounds like Johnny Smith a bit on that LP, partially because of his chord work and also because he's using a D'Angelico (I also own one)that Smith also played when his was destroyed in a fire.
But now to the important question- Do you call yourself Nightfly after Fagen's album or after the Parker Nightfly guitar that I'm thinking of buying? If you have one, tell me what you think of it.

ed: on michael franks, don't you love that breezy line - she understands how the blue water behaves (!?!) - god, what a disc!

duncan: when vh-1 storytellers or whatever it was called, when they did fleetwood mac, i was so very disappointed they blew off Tango in the Night, that was such an excellent release, wasn't it? tusk is still tops with me, but that's a very close second with mystery to me right after, how about you?

and fezo, joshua tree still stands out as an all-time favorite u2 release, yes!

so cool, calm, and collected.....

Hi,
this is what's in my 10 cd -car changer today

1. Bill Evans Trio- Waltz for Debby
2.Chris Potter- Gratitude
3.Weather Report- Mysterious Traveller
4.Parker&Gillespie-Diz and Bird at Carnegie Hall
5.Bill Evans- Conversations with Myself
6.D.Fagen-Kamakiriad
7.Michael Franks- Blue Pacific
8.Joni Mitchell- Hejira
9.Joni Mitchell-Taming the Tiger
10.SD- Two Against Nature

Rodney Crowell. "Houston Kid"
U2, "Joshua Tree"
Roger Waters, "Pros and Cons"
Allmans, "Eat a Peach"
Dead, "Boring Greatest Hits LP but it includes "St Stephen" so it stays in the rotation"

second St. Al's comment on Roy.Scam's ... and i also feel he nailed the essence of the entire album ... sort of ...
did it show SD's mature and poised (love that word, for it's close to poison but the meaning is so ...) loop in time, like Royal Scam is the ultimate raw energy thriving on the seeds of perfection and cerebral skills.
There's L O V E for the music written in each syllable, very very nice to read here. Thank you.

And thank you too, Cyn. A goat and a horse? Hm.
I once saw a movie about wild horses, was sort of a documentary, very cleverly made. They followed this white horse who became a leader and then left the group and later came back .. very interesting .. And i think i'd freak out sooner before Gaucho does, that horse looked at me and i didn't know where to look LOL
i can't read them, you know.

Oh, and is that hairspray still available?
i could use some today :-)

Banyan Tree Big Black Cow's Bow,
G.

Hello one and all -

To Wormy Ð the 7 note piano intro (with the first note being a slur Ð the Bb in parantheseis) for My Old School is as follows:

(Bb)-A..GÉA..G..Bb..A..G

An E is played in the bass throughout this part, then in come the horns É

To Roy Ð The Victor Feldman solo in Black Cow is one of my favorites. I wrote here a few weeks ago that I worked very hard to learn that solo (after 2 decades of just faking it by following its shape) recently. The genius here is in the taste and restraint that is used by Feldman and his employers for that studio gig.

Randy - can you play Glamour Profession yet? You're a jazz guitarist right? It should be easy for you.

Angel - ain't this sunny LA weather great?

Steveedan

Ok, I'll bite...

Beck: Odelay
Rage Against the Machine: Battle of Los Angeles
Grateful Dead: 04/24/78 Univ of Illinios
Weather Report: Heavy Weather
Parliament: Tear the roof off (disc 1)

Roy: Very nice essay on Black Cow.

W1P: Was it called Uncle Charlie's?

One the way out to Bridgehampton and back on the compact disc player (in no particular order): 1. Burt Bacharach: One Amazing Night (featuring: All Saints, Barenaked Ladies, Ben Folds Five, Elvis Costello, Sheryl Crow, George Duke, Chrissie Hynde, Mike Myers, David Sanborn, Luther Vandross, Dionne Warwick, Wynonna). 2. Madonna: Ray of Light. 3. John Coltrane: Blue Train. 4. The Cranberries: Everyone else is doing it, so why can't we? . 5. Erikah Badu: Baduism.

Beemer: GB gallery no longer available? What happened? Also...damn good series this past weekend with your boys and mine...but we should have had that Saturday game dammit. Should be veeery interesting in the playoffs.

Hoops: Nice job on the Dannys website of winners.

Everyone have a great week!

Aus

PF Pulse
SD Countdown to ecstasy
The Who's greatest hits
Marillion Script for a jesters tear
George Michael Older
Fleetwood Mac The Dance

5/6 does pulse count for 2 CD's ?

still mingin from the weekend

I just noticed, while driving my car and playing old casettes, that, in my 25th year of listening to the song "Black Cow", it still knocks me down, blows my skirt up, steps on my calf, and makes me laugh, cry, walk, talk, and crawl on my belly like a snake. What a great recording; and Steely dan did it without using some of their biggest weapons (lofty guitar solos and eloborate percussion).
Lyrically, it's a perfect snapshot of a moment in a painful relationship, and musically , it conveys so much emotion with such beautiful restraint, it's almost like an angry scream contained within a polite whisper. That restraint is embodied by Victor Feldman's electric piano solo. It starts with a slow-growing tinkle before breaking into the real showing off. Plus, there's a full four seconds in the middle of the solo where Victor doesn't vamp at all, just lets the chords carry it. That's impressive to me; I'd think a Steely Dan session for a visiting musician would be sort of like a dance audition sandwiched between Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire. My tendency would be to jump right into all my fancy steps as soon as possible and never let up lest some faceless voice says, "Thank you. ... Next!". But Victor's got the confidence to let it make its own pace. I guess that's why he's him and I'm some guy writing about it.
One of my favorite musical moments is the very beginning of the second verse of "Black Cow": The instruments are shuffling along, then the snare kicks in a bit earlier than expected, the instuments do a three-chord climb (sort of a slow version of the piano ascension leading into the verses of "Reelin' In the Years"), Fagen does a controlled sob of "Down to Green Street" , and the horns shake their heads and say, "uh-huh". There you go.
And if the famous rock and roll sax solo in "Come Go With Me" had a melancholy little brother, it would be the solo at the end of "Black Cow". That solo personifies music's ability to carry the spirit through something that would be way too painful in a musicless world. And then the song fades out, leaving you still tapping your toe to the unresolved tension of a relationship that won't get right but won't let you go. And I always wish it would start right in again. That's beautiful music and the highest form of art.

Okay, I'll get out of here.

RS

hey Clas - so I'm not loosing my mind on that piano intro, thanks

Randy - last 5 in rotation, let's see

Gram Parsons - new 2 disc Anthology (very nice upgrade)
Michelle Shocked - Mercury Poise (hi lp)
Wayne Shorter - Best of BLueNote Jap only import
Todd - Something Anything with a few programmed skips(disc 2)
Joni - For the Roses
Laura Nyro - Stone Soul Picnic Anthology Disc 2

suffering from SD stax envy

wt

on my cd rack over the weekend:
2vN
Best of Bossa Nova (it's still one of the best summer cd's out there)
malcom's wunderground (hello malc?????)
new n'sync (my 8 year olds - it's awful, worse than their previous if that's possible)
Michelle Shocked - short, sharp and shocked

Here's a 'thread' that usually has interesting results...

What are the last 5 five CDs you listened to? Here's what's been in the Nakamichi at Randy's recently:

1. Billy Bauer - Plectrist (1956)
2. Barney Kessel - Red, Hot & Blues (1988)
3. Jackie McLean - 4, 5 and 6 (1956)
4. Steely Dan - The Royal Scam (1976)
5. Joe Pass - Portrait of Duke Ellington (1974)

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com

Wormy - damm! I forgot the horns came in during the piano-intro!

C

clas

my old school

the first seven notes

dant dah
dant dah de dah dah...

then the horns join in

okay maybe an eighth note slips in a microsecond earlier

tones - welcome back
yes Reich better beat Glass to the Aja mimimalist sampling
hopefully Phillip is still tied up with late 70's Bowie /Eno excursions

there's an interesting 5 star lookback review of AJa in the latest Rolling Stone. The cover has three non distracting teeny girls in bikini's on it. RS wasn't always a fashion mag

Royal Scam equiv to God Save the Queen in protest element?
I hear rumblings in the amen corner for a parody

WELCOME HOME STRANGER!

Hope you had a nice flight. Chet is saying hi. I don't remember Chets last name but you know who I mean? He's playing this... this... instrument... you blow in them, hell you know, like the guy in New Orleans, he sang about what a beautiful world...

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Wormy - 7 notes piano intro... My Old School? 7 notes? Please explain.

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StevieDan - I got it. Wait a week or so. I gave a copy to the Stranger when I met him in Paris. He said Monicas voice made him cry. I don't know if that's good or bad.

C

angel: sorry. Thought you were agreeing with this from last Saturday:

"'That's where I found my mandarin plum
That's where you'd be if you found one'

In the 50s and 60s suburban white kids were exposed to cultures and music (R&B, blues, rock and roll) they had never heard before. It was exciting.** In all likelihood, this song is a daydream combining elements of those times**."

Joseph Beggy: I am the last one who knows anything about the songs themselves, so pardon me if this is not the right information. The guitar tabs are at this web location. Maybe it can help you.
http://www.jmdl.com/howard/music/tab/my_school.txt

Tones: So good to have you back with us. Waiting for the review. :-)

Miss Crabtree: Of course Dr. Warren K is z/x's Doctor. Who do you think keeps him in deludin?

µ: How come no comment on my idea for Green Flower Street. See post from last Wednesday August 15th at 20:40.

Randy: I never got to comment on your hilarious post regarding our choices of least favorite Dan tunes. Man you are one very funny guy! LOL
As to least liked, that is actually an unknown. There is always SOMETHING to like in every Steely Dan song. There are just ones that I don't have to listen to every time the CD plays. (Then there are the others that go on replay, again and again and again.)

Steveedan: Wow, what a set list. Too bad you, obviously, did not enjoy the experience at that club. Good vacation to you and your family and say Hi to Craigster for me.

Good evening all....

With rage in your eyes and your megaphones....

Cyn share your hair spray with eLLe.

Cyn~ yeah LOL I caught Peter in the garden with a nice moon LOL was "suggesting" that I send it around his office? ..but you know me, I'm not 'that' mean, am I? teehheeee
Loved Bowie"s hair as well..but had a "debate" with Peter.
I said he's never really had long hair during his entire career, but he says,that he wore it long in his early days. *shrug* anyways..whateverrr ; )

tones~ some guy was selling t-shirts in the traffic snarl when we were leaving the place where Clapton played. Which for me is very rare, I usually insist on leaving before the encore- to avoid the panic, but I thought I'd stay for this one, since Midnight Cruiser was telling me that this could be his last tour, and sure enough in the literature I picked up about the band and this tour Clapton does say he thinks it's his last. But yeah, I thought that the fellow running around with the t-shirts had a great idea there! ; )

Hi everyone else
Steely peace

Yes, Gina horse do bond , mainly with other horses but there are cases of them bonding with goats and other assorted animals.. There was even a case where a famous racehorse (can't remember his name) had to have his stablemate (a goat) travel with him to all the tracks.How funny that Gaucho didn't freak out a bit. Face has a pygmy goat out at her farm that runs around following her mare in the jumping ring....the horse jumps and the goat runs around the jump (smart goat). He also stands under the grain bucket to catch what the horses slop out. He likes to head butt me and Lynne...he really is the funniest thing. Does the rearing up and butting...trying to make himself larger than life, hes the size of a Labrador and coloured like an Oreo cookie (hence the name Cookie)

Anon..just as I thought. A coward to the end. Even that goat has more guts than you do!

Hey tones, thanks man, maybe we'll get our ass up there some day. To date, however, there has been ZERO contact from any Bay Area clubs about us playing up there. What's that club where the Huey Lewis video is shot? That would be perfect for us!

Back again my friends... been a while since I added my graffiti to the ol' yeller. And since I've been here I've had my mind blown several different ways to Sunday, some of which was by way of the Roxy Music concert I saw a couple of weekends ago. I've been composing the colour in my head since then, and will sit my butt in front of the computer shortly to further relate that experience. Till then, I wanted to express, again, that this place is just *Fab*, warts and all. Especially the all.

Speaking of colour... Ms. Ducky and St. Al (womad), His Royal Wormness (Crim), Aus (E Bad), eLLe (Clapton), and stevied (Allmans - you should have kept changing t-shirts to see if they would take requests)... thanks for taking us along.

Wormness - Aja x Reich... I hope Reich gets to it before Phillip Glass, heh heh. And I think one reason the Dan escaped the "Wrath of the Punks" is because they were always anti-establishment (could "Royal Scam" = "God save the Queen. We mean it, maaan!"?), always counter-whatever-culture happened to be happening. Punks before punk.

W1P - belated thanks for the invitation, but I have to pick and choose where to burn the remaining years of my vehicle, so alas road trips have to be confined to a 100 mile radius, and that way maybe I'll something left when the Danhit the road again. If you guys ever play the Bay Area I'll do my best. Btw, have you heard Les Claypool's Lfying Frog Brigade's new release, "Set 2"; they do Animals in it's entirety. I't pretty awesome. Sounds like Floyd with a better bass player...

Randy - glad I'm off the hook 'bout the least favs. Have you, or any of you, heard the new Buffalo Springfield box set? Outstanding! Great rarities, though the 4th disk is only the first two albums remastered. They were definitely one of the best bands of their day.

oh yeah... Springsteen (who looks down from Olympus over Mellencamp and Seger anyday, imho ;-) and Stereolab...

Dr. Mu - really enjoyed the "Greenflower St." deconstruct, and your history background reminded my of a bit of the local history here in the Bay Area. There's a beach here on the bay called China Camp, which has the last of pert' near a hundred fishing villages established around the turn of the previous century. The Chinese apparently were too efficient of workers for the dominant ethnic majority here in the Bay Area, and were taking too many jobs. So they were forced into the fishing industry, where they harvested the then unwanted bay shrimp. They exported most of the shrimp to back to China where there was a major market for it. Due largely to the traditional Chinese method of shrimping, this soon became a very successful industry for the Chinese, much to the consternation of the local ethnic majority, which succesfully lobbied *congress* to inact limits on when (No Chinese allowed during peak shrimping seasons), how (no traditional fishing methods), and how much a living Chinese shrimpers could earn. This is still the only time in American history that a federal law has been passed to target a specific ethnic minority. Overtly anyway. No wonder Lou Chang was burning with rage.

See what one can learn from the History Channel?

Paige - likewise, enjoyed the "NightxNight" reduction (no "spades"? I thought it was a maternal ghetto reference). Always been one of my favs. I also think that it might have been another statement of dire financial straits, and the new liner notes seem to confirm that a bit for me...

Speaking of Dire Straits... nobody mentioned Pick Withers in the awesome drummer list. He made the sultans swing, and they were never the same without him. Check out Slow Train Coming for more proof...

and Sly Dunbar, Carlton Barrett... anybody say Omar Hakim? Wormy, you had to have thrown in Bruford, right?

Chere - Hope you're shakin' and bangin' that tamborine for me...

jj / Duncan - I could go off on a Bowie rant but will spare the others... for now. Love the man. Love the music. And his 90's output will be seen as being more innovative than the 70's, I'm convinced. I hope I'm still around to gloat.

Clas - Thanks. Now I can finally go to sleep. At least Wayne and Z were in the same country... maybe it's "a sign."

Yo Snakie..., Danslut(tm), lp, Ole, Aja, Jen(?!!!), Gina, Daaaaaaaaano my maaaaaaano, enmn, negz... NyBill, nice making your acquaintance, however briefly.

Blaise? hello...? Please come home.

You too Daddy & Lisa G (do you think they'll let me sing "Why Don't You Like Me?" at the MJ deification ceremony?), Alta, and Cara...

Everyone, just freakin' "Yo".

Roxy colour on the way.

peach

t

Walter Cronkite: I hope you caught the segment on cloning during 60 minutes. Hey, they've found the Secret Raelian Cloning Factory: in WEST VIRGINIA!! Just what we need, a million marching Cousin Duprees! ROFLMAO!

Gina: That's waht Wlater and Donald said whe they recorded Rikki..

to catch you in here, Cyn. you know about horses .. i wonder if they ever show any emotion or bonding with other animals .. i can't recall anything on this subject .. i ask this because we were out with Gaucho and he ran to this pasture and a horse came towards him, they both ran, gaucho on the outside of the fench and the horse inside ... they stopped and then gaucho just looked at the huge horse, waggling his tail .. the horse looked down, could not sing the phrase "no flies on me" for they were all over his head ... anyways .. i then lifted gaucho and the horse and gaucho were nose to nose, haha, gaucho then licked all over the horse's nose but i couldn't tell if he liked it or not .. he didn't bite my doggy's head off, so it had to be ok in some way ..

Doc Mu, hm .. i wouldn't know about a cheque .. miss Ray is a huge Danfan and everybody knows .. it's paying honors, maybe even worth more than money?
i really like her voice, they should follow up on the Rosie Vela thing and this time feature miss A.Ray .. really they should!

Rickie Lee Jones moved back to Los Angeles after a few years in Tacoma. I instantly recall an interview in a dutch magazine, it's from the seventies .. one of the few Walter Becker and Donald Fagen sightings/ encounters .. they talked about Los Angeles and New York .. why they lived in L.A. .. because there was space to park the car and all .. mmm .. now i gotto find me that magazine, no clue where i put it :-)

off again,
Banyan Tree Mon Ee Don't Mat Ure Bow,
G.

Cyn have another drink.

You're just jealous cuz you have no hair to spray.....BTW, what is it exactly that pisses you off about me? Please explain to the group....if you have the guts to. But something tells me you are a coward (hence the lack of posting your name)

How's everybody's Sunday going? Mine's going great. I just devoured an Apple Pan hamburger. Those of you familiar with this food joint in LA know how amazing these burgers are. I haven't had one in about 2 years - cholesterol, y'know.

To Mr. Z of X - I wanted to respond to your Babylon Sisters questions, but had such a busy week, and Howard W. gave such great answers to those questions, that I just layed back and kept reading what was going on. For the record, I don't slow everything down to learn it. In fact, I use SlowGold as a last resort, because I have always relied on my ear to get me through. Gotta keep this capability honed. Too much reliance on the SlowGold crutch would tend to make this ability lose its edge.

Also, what I meant about the lyrics of Gaslighting Abbie being creepy is just that the story was a little creepy, like the movie that inspired it. The lyrics as you say are typically Steely Dan sophisticated, literary genius. Nothing blatently graphic or anything like that.

In the spirit of our Angel - today in LA we are enjoying fantastic sunny and warm weather. It's a great day to do something/anything.

So in that spirit, ignore the anony-mouses. The sun never rises in their world.

Last night, the Steely Fan Band played at Hurricanes Bar & Grill in Manhattan Beach (Surf City), California. Management demanded 4 hours of music. Assholes. Ingrates. No PA system, we had to rent our own. They even hassled us over drinks. The place was packed and there were a lot of security (bouncer) types there. The bar has really low ceilings so the music didn't make it all the way throughout the bar. The patrons who were near our stage were up and dancing practically the whole time. I love to see that. We played the following songs:

The Boston Rag
FM
Sign In Stranger
Do It Again
Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Dirty Work
King Of The World
Bad Sneakers
Black Friday
--- Break ---
Josie
Hey Nineteen
Peg
I Got The News
Green Flower Street
Jack Of Speed
Monkey In Your Soul
Janie Runaway
The Fez (Band Intros)
Kid Charlemagne
Deacon Blues
Green Earrings
Reelin' In The Years
Pretzel Logic
My Old School
Haitian Divorce
Black Cow
Bodhisattva
Don't Take Me Alive
FM
Midnight Cruiser
Black Friday

We had to repeat FM and Black Friday, but we opened up these two songs and Midnight Cruiser for extended solos. The final set was 30 minutes and in order to satisfy the jerky manager, we played the last 4 songs and made it last 30 minutes. That's show biz fer ya.

The SFB plays next on Friday August 24 (my birthday and my son's birthday !!!) in San Juan Capistrano at the Coach House. They are opening for Tommy Chong of Cheech and Chong. I won't be at that show. I'm heading to San Diego for a family vacation and to see Craigster. So my posts will cease momentarily between Wednesday and Monday.

Have a great day and week everyone.

Steveedan (Mother F*ckin' Maestro for the Steely Fan Band)
(Now y'all know what MFM means.)

Cyn have some more hair spray.

eLLe....God, Bowie's hair looks great....forgot about the concert yesterday, will settle for the rerun today. Seen any moons lately?.....

jj...yes, another great CSN song!

LP..read your email, sent you a "dam" story.

Gina: I hope a check is on its way to Dr. Fagen and Dr. Becker for stealing the Boston Rag piano vamp...

The note that Walter uses to Gaslight the listener is "D"

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/cds/135/135090.html

if you like some princess of cairo ... i like this voice!

this what a stroll down Yahoo Lane can bring forth ..

have a nice and Sunny day,

Banyan Tree Bow,
G.

what can you say about wb & df other than "oh my god, you guys are good!"
hope another album follows soon as the new one (2against nature) definately rivals old favs like aja and pretzel logic!!!

and please you guys, please please please please tour oz soon, we will be holding our breath!

z- Get a life!

eLLe- Thanx for telling me something about Grohl and Veruca Salt-hell, if I met someone with a voice and face like that, i'd leave my wife too- and i ain't married! Do Louise Post & Veruca Salt do any listenable stuff? Looks like she's gonna be collaborating with Grohl alot more than just this flick.
Steveedan- Wish I could make the Dan shows but I'm on the E.Coast.Nothing would be more fun right now than getting fucked up and listening to live Dan all nite. SUPPORT LIVE MUSIC!And what's creepy about GA's lyrics? Sounds like a typical nite.
Steviedan- Yesterday I walked into a record store in The Village and they were playing entire Zappa LPs, the owner specializes in Zappa and bootleg Beefheart stuff.
Mrs. Crabstree- Doc K. was my shrink- now get fucked.
I just figured out the horn lick played on the 3rd A section of Babylon Sisters- took me long enough, but I don't slow it down like some of you johnnies out there.
My question is: Who is the genius that wrote that horn lick on BS? Ingenious use of bebop lick rythmically displaced by 8th note triplets.
I'm communicating with Bill Evans' son, Evan Evans online. He's a film composer. Look for "Hunting Humans",(I like that title), his latest film score. Great dude.

CYN!!! turn on the Beeb right now.. Mark Knofler..on Parkinson singing -Balony AgaiN_ intro to Romeo and Juliet..
he's gone all grey!!!!!! ; )

That note is called "Gaslighting Abbie."

Gaslighting is a great song! Cool, quirky 50s jazz melody over a "Once Nation Under a Groove" funk. Check out the outtro - a real winner. Even better live.

But, [TRIVIA] what is the (purposely) annoying note Walter keeps playing during the solo?

Hi,

I am looking for the music charts for the guitar breaks on "My old school" Whwre can I get them.

joe

if all i had was JUST a mix of the lead and backup vocal parts, SANS any instrumentation AT ALL...

it would still be one bad ass funky tune...

but the groove...

that groove...

i pity the fool who don't feel it !

triumphant return to steady gig tonite...

the whole place was dancing...

BACK !

eLLe: Yes. I went with feet dragging behind me and left inspired. The Material Girl rocked. Enjoy the show.

Aus

Chat is back

Chat will be down for about 20 minutes.

Dif: My sincere apologies. Just having a little fun at your expense. I'll make it up to you, I promise...

StAl

Fuck you, shithead. Dave Grohl IS a decent drummer and over all a very talented man.

Sorry I missed that Bowie thing, Elle.

You're so on TOP of the music scene! Maybe you should have concentrated a little less on the music, and a little more on your basic English skills! BTW, did you hear that the Night Stalker has a new album out; I hear he plays a MEAN guitar!

Sorry about the last email we sent out with the attachment from hell!

We want to remind you all that TOMORROW NIGHT, August 18, you can catch the band LIVE at HURRICANES BAR AND GRILL in downtown Huntington Beach, Ca. Show starts at 9pm!

Also, tickets are going fast for the Tommy Chong and Steely Fan Band show at the Coach House next Friday, August 24th, in San Juan Capistrano. Tickets are being presold at $17.50ea. thru SFB. Please call 714-540-8510 to order yours before they sell out!

Thank You.
Mr.Sticks

"Gaslighting Abbie" and the title track "Two Against Nature" are two of my favorites from the new album. They are quintessential Steely Dan songs, with dark, cryptic, subversive lyrics, great horn arrangements, and respectively, a great funk groove ("Gaslighting Abbie"), and an inventive time signature (6/8 time on "Two Against Nature").

There's a lot going on in each song (which I've mentioned before), which allows both of them to stand up brilliantly after repeated listenings. "Two Against Nature" also includes one of Walter Becker's best guitar solos, as well as engaging lyrics. It also seems to somehow propel itself forward...

"Gaslighting Abbie"'s lyrical narrative is also very strong. Each line advances the story, giving subtle details and insight. These songs both convey all of the standard elements of Steely Dan's music, and they are real classics to some of us-

"Drive west on Sunset / to the sea / turn that jungle music down..."
- Steely Dan, "Babylon Sisters"

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com

oh yes, Dave Grohl former drummer of Nirvana, was playing drums at David Bowie's 50 birthday party a few years back. He's actually a freaking excellent drummer and a fine guitarist. He left his wife to be with that chick in Veruca Salt. Originally from Portland, he still says," Merry Christmas Mom" on the local radio station here (which I find sweet) But yes, he ROCKED at Bowie's Bash.

So I get to see what you were on about, Madonna's concert on tv-Aus. Looks good on the previews. Considering that she is about the same age as me.. I have alot of respect for the women.
PS. The voodoo, who-do_u-do, doesn't seem to having any fx's ; )

hey steviedan-man : )

King Biscuit Flower Hour
peas

LP -

I don't know why others think that Gaslighting Abbie is dead musically. I think it's a great song. That opening bass line with the bent note just before the drums kick in in the intro is killer. I am drawn in to the whole CD from that point forward. Then the song is a creeper. It creeps the whole time, and the subject matter is creepy. I think they did a great job with this one. Because of the groove and rhythm of the songs, Gaslighting Abbie, along with the track Two Against Nature, seem like songs that go together.

Who knows why people like or dislike a song?

Remember - Steely Fan Band @ Hurricanes Bar & Grill in Manhattan Beach, CA tomorrow night, Sat. Aug. 18 @ 9 PM. The evening is ours. It could be yours too.

Have great weekends all.

Steveedan (MFM for the SFB)

The Syndicate has moved from LA to the UK in hopes of reviving higher returns on reruns from Season 7 and 8 of the X-Files......all part of the plan, my friend, all part of the plan...

Can a musician explain to me why so many rant on gaslighting abbie, saying it's musically dead, I don't get it.

Duncan- when you're through talking to yourself let us know.

Duncan- when you're through talking to yourself let us know.

Duncan- when you're through talking to yourself let us know.

Duncan- when you're through talking to yourself let us know.

With the new changes to vehicle registrations in Britain about to happen

It turns out that County Durham had been awarded Area 51

Does this mean that I can expect a ''visit'' any minute now .

Do De Do Dah Do

Duncan lost in space and time

BAM BAM BAM

this kid. serial drumhead killer. dyNAMics, son ! to get him to lighten the touch a little, i made him remove his earplugs. he couldn't take it himself ! and rather than easing up on the poor snare drum (READING exercises mind you, not a fat backbeat), he replaced the earplugs shaking his head. you can bet barney rubble's son's drum teacher never came out of his.

i'll e-mail you, worm buddy, but you can just ferGIT about getting the mono-tentacle around my stax/volt singles collection ! i didn't know it is unavailable. is it ? there are actually three sets (i have the first & second): the black & red (9 discs), the blue, & the orange. i'll check on it for you. i feel like i've seen it stocked locally. tangentially, was that the laura nyro 2 disc "stone soul picnic" compilation you just picked up ? where's the blaisestreet boy ?

if we're forced to pick least favorites (which i haven't), the least favorite from each album would be interesting. to isolate the comparisons to a specific time frame of reference would seem more relevant to me (although i would probably STILL not participate lol)...

jj all i can say is, go get that manassas album for the weekend ! just go get it ! you can thank howard for the zappa thread. he reminded me of a discussion i had with someone about zappa's "innovative" conducting methods. absolute twisted genius.

and duncan, the movie was probably "200 motels"...

hey beast with a review of the new elo album. [hint hint]

potential raleigh festers without a fest: i'm still trying to iron out my schedule here. a couple of key dates are still in negotiation, but danny may have to have a little back tweaking anyway. that gives you an idea of how much fun i've been having in my new position of sole roadie/equipment lifter. buckstreet boy number one...

Hi @ --

Haven't heard from you for a while. Where you been @? I hope that you have been having fun @ that. And if it is fun, keep @ it. After all, isn't that where it's @ @?

And speaking of what location you are @, I and the rest of the Steely Fan Band (SFB) would love to see you @ our show @ not only Hurricanes in Manhattan Beach, CA, but also on Sunday September 2nd @ the Hermosa Beach Festival. There will be a lot of people @ this show. After all, it's right @ the beach @.
You can be sure that we will be having fun @ it and @ that @.

We would love to have you as our very special guest please @. Would you be willing to have @ it? I don't know where you are @, but it would be great to have you @ one of our shows. We would delight @ that @.

Whadda ya say @? Lemme know @ www.steelyfanband.com. Please email to us @ this address @ any time that you feel that it would be convenient for you @. OK?

We @ the Steely Fan Band send you our very best. Give us a shout @ your convience if you would like to do that @.

Sincerely @ Your Service --

Steveedan (MFM for the U-NO-HOO)

"Name: Steveedan
schernove@loop.com
Location: Los Angeles, CA USA
Date: Thursday, August 16, 19101 at 20:47:54
Comments:
Hey Everybody --

IT'S TIME FOR MORE SHAMELESS PLUGGING !!!!! "

enough already. please, give it a rest.

Hey Everybody --

IT'S TIME FOR MORE SHAMELESS PLUGGING !!!!!

The Steely Dan Band will be playing next Saturday night, August 18, 2001, in Manhattan Beach at Hurricane's located at 200 Main Street. We got the whole night. Large set list, fully stocked bar, dancing girls (and their jealous boyfriends - watch out !) and all the action you could want. Well, knowing this crowd, maybe not all the action you could want, but some action that I think you will enjoy. A good start, OK?

The MFM (that's me) is raising the bar for the SFB. With all of these gigs consistently coming up for the band, I have introduced a lot of new charts of Steely Dan material for the band to play. We will not be sitting on our laurels, or our hardys too. We must continue to cover new ground. March or die. Keep it fresh of risk it spoiling like last monthÕs lunch meat. As it it written: DonÕt let the meat loaf. And for the vegetarians: DonÕt let the toe foo.

CÕmon down to ÒSurf City USAÓ this Saturday night yÕall.

Steveedan

Hello All- Has anyone seen the "Advil" Headache medicine Commercial with the Woman Jazz Pianist at the Trio Gig with a headache? And the Drummer is none other than Bernard Purdie! What a Goof. I didn't recognize the Bass player though. David

This from the SD Newsgroup:

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They're in the process of recording a new album now.

I put up some videos of the tribute band "The Steely Damned" from Le Bar Bat
in March. Check it out if you're interested
http://www.lebarbat.com/damned.htm

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"IamDGH" wrote in message
news:20010813170312.22993.00003954@ng-ba1.aol.com...
> Anybody know if Donald and Walter have any new music in the works, and when it
> might be out?"

The key word is RECORDING. Way to go Pete!!

Duncan: You're a lucky man. While recording and crunching some numbers this afternoon, I had on Crowded House's Together Alone. There's rarely a collection of songs like that outside Dan, some of the Beatles albums, and Stevie Wonder's 70s run. neil's other albums are darn fine as well. Buy One Nil on import now!

Paddy's new Sprout album is called something like The Gunman (and other Stories). Listening to some clips late last night, the album sounds more straight ahead with some C&W influence. Paddy may work better quirky. I have yet to pick up Andromeda Heights - the title cut is great! That's all I've heard from that album. The string of albums from 1985-1990 Steve McQueen, From Langley Park to Memphis, and Jordan: The Comeback are superb

Not quiet the young rebel I once was.

Working for Da Man this week dare I say Burger King & Nescafe

Isn't it amazing what some people will do for money.

Well it's work I suppose & not quiet as bad as our last job British American Tobacco

Today's SD moment for me was on BBC radio2 with Babylon Sisters being played again.The greatest hits must be in the playlist still as something from it is featured just about every other day.

I once saw a very weird film about Frank Zappa wonder what that wasÉ..very surreal

One guy in the band looked like he could have been the father of Big Sick Ugly Jim Martin (his words not mine).

On to today's tip's from me for Quirky POP music if your interested with some great lyrics The Divine Comedy or a bit more rocky GayDad

Neil Fynn was playing live last Saturday on my radio & Paddy Macaloon's been on every day this week
Hope you caught it Dano?

Mc where are you?
Miss your imput.

JJ what books?

Had a great time in chat the other night & might have another go sometime.
Even StAl popped in although only briefly

Must dash.
Duncan

''Smoking cobalt cigarettes & Grillin' burgers on the back lawn''

P.S. AC thanks for the virus ;(

I found this post on the ELO alt. newsgroup

Subject: Re: Tour Cancellation

IMHO, Mr Fruin should be fired for unbelievably poor judgment. Just a shame. I just hope Jeff Lynne isn't discouraged by this, and realizes that there are still many thousands of fans who love his work.

On the left side - Stackridge "The man in the bowler hat" and on the right - James Taylor«s "Greatest hits".

Strange that "With a gun" didn«t made the list... .

igy - well, no one has parodeed that song to me yet, so it can hardly be a favorite - right jim and wt?

igy?? fez? wtf

hey Stevie

e-mail me (bergeon@shellus.com)

day posting? between Violin lessons?

You're talking the original Stax singles discs (out of print), not the release from last year? I've been trying to get one of those for 6 months but they always bid up high on e-bay

do you really think I wanted to say Rod Stewart - EPTAS?
honorable mention Sleater Kenney in the near misses

wormy

steam - best of...

steppenwolf - at your birthday

bear in mind that is strictly the ROCK/POP section and not all my cd's are properly shelved.

honorable mention must be made to complete stax/volt singles collection that occurs just prior to the steam disc and tempted me to lie...

Hmm, that's weird. Springsteen's The Wild, Innocent and the E Street Shuffle or Tunnel of Love should be next to Can't Buy a Thrill, but evidently a large, mysterious repulsive force has somehow placed them to the left of the Paul (not your bow tie) Simon CDs. Call in Kreskin for an investigation! LOL

~: You are correct, sir!

Funny story about Belew and Fripp's "riffs." Wow.

Physically Next to SD CDs: Paul Simon - Hearts and Bones; Sting throwing a Tantric: Nothing Like the Sun

back from lunch to sample the latest ear candy purchases
Laura Nero comp, Richard Thompson, Joni's For the Roses (an album I strangely never owned or heard (waiting for my Cara Mia wakeup call)

who makes the traffic interesting
buddy is you Jimbo sharp these days

where's Gina? we miss you blaise

t

Jim, see my response to your posting violations, you always knew how to bring out the bureaucrat in me......

LP: see revenge of the carpenters, Part II, lol

I'm just worried that I'm boring. I voted for E. St. Louis -- I'm a rocker, not a jazz guy. On the download front, I dont know what's wrong.

Sly -There's a riot goin on, on one side, and Cat Stevens-Tea for the Tillerman on the other in my CDs. In vinyl it's Sqeeze-45s and under, on one side and Steppenwolf on the other .

Randy: thanks for the info. I'll admit it's been a few years sinse I've looked.

lol, wt, indeed

what's that? compliance with the americans with disabilities act - uh yeah, duh!

Dr Mu

what is Katy Lied?

lp admiration society

The Stephen Stills/Manassas album "Manassas" (1972) is NOT out of print. It's available on CD (and cassette) and was remastered in 1991 with the rest of the CSN catalog. The second Manassas album ("Down The Road," 1973) is also available.

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com

Lesson: Only post when doing 3 instead of 4 things at once:

Let's try this again for Final Jeopardy. Here are your clues:

October, off the map, Runnin' on Empty, Giant Stadium, Kung Fu, the Beatles, Lost Wages, Ryder, Duke, I Got the News

Hope that helps!

lunch time.. and I'm skipping eating.

Cyn& Randy: You didn't mention Fair Game, my fav. off that album.

Steviedan: Mannassas was a great album, but I fear it's out of circulation. I've looked for it many times in any format(we listened to it on 8-track). The cuban influence was my first exposure to that flavour. Love anything you post in Zappa.

I really shouldn't laugh, but that anon Preston parody was funny.

How could someone choose "Gaslighting Abbie" as their least favorite Steely Dan song when a more obvious choice has to be
"Through with Buzz."

What the fuck is that ?

There.... just had to use one expletive to demonstrate I can still bit after lamenting over ELO in my earlier post...

Beast

this is a public notice:

my civil rights are being satirically violated on the green site and there's no hall monitor over there either to come to my precious aid - hmph!

lol, god these places are so damn funny.....;)

two least favorite:

Any World
Two Against Nature

WASAM almost made the list but was saved from infamy by the "Jane Street sunrise" line/vocal:

ole: if the danfest is in Raleigh, i respectfully request that a trail of bread crumbs be left from the hotel to whatever gathering place is chosen.

Thank you, Randy, for your sidebar comments below.....lol, you are too funny!

Steely-folk,

Here's the results of my mini-poll (from 8/9) of everyone's LEAST favorite Steely Dan tunes... I'd say it's accurate within a post (two votes) or so. So here we are, from least favorite to not quite least favorite (more or less)-

1. "Charlie Freak" - 3 votes
2. "Change of the Guard" - 2 votes
3. "Parker's Band" - 2 votes
4. "IGY" - 1 vote
5. "The Fez" - 1 vote
6. "Monkey In Your Soul" - 1 vote
7. "Bodhisattva" - 1 vote
8. "Night By Night" - 1 vote
9. "Brooklyn (Owes The Charmer Under Me)" - 1 vote
10. "Pearl of the Quarter" - 1 vote
11. "Throw Back The Little Ones" - 1 vote
12. "Everyone's Gone To The Movies" - 1 vote
13. "Gaslighting Abbie" - 1 vote
14. "Through With Buzz" - 1 vote
15. "East St. Louis Toodle-Oo" - 1 vote

Now that it's said and done, thanks for all your contributions... Hope you enjoyed the list and ARE SOME OF YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND?? "GASLIGHTING ABBIE" AS A LEAST FAVORITE? JESUS, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?? THAT'S ONE OF THEIR BEST AND MOST INTERESTING SONGS! AND "NIGHT BY NIGHT"? MY GOD! THAT'S NEARLY THE BEST THING ON THE ALBUM... "BODHISATTVA"? "BODHISATTVA"?? AND HOW COULD ANYTHING ON 'KATY LIED' EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS LIST? OR ANYTHING THAT CAME AFTER 'KATY LIED'... AND THE ELLINGTON COVER?? WHO THE HELL ELSE IN ROCK COULD COVER ELLINGTON AND HAVE IT BE EVEN CREDIBLE, LET ALONE GOOD? YOU'RE ALL DERANGED AND IN NEED OF EXTENSIVE MEDICATION...WHAT THE-

Sorry... I had to get that out of my system... Next survey tomorrow (dependent on my condition)...

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com

hey stevieD
I've heard a little of Howe's "butterscotch waterfall faery
music" and this new disc is simply acoustic and luscious. He did a credible job of blending with Squire on backup yes vocals but on his own is certainly scary.

enjoyed your Zappa memoirs - Uncle Meat was certainly an innovator. I'll have to dig up some old Adrian Belew incidents with Frank. I think they mostly had to do with wearing a dress and Nazi regalia. I do recall Belew trying to learn Fripp guitar pieces for a BOwie tour in the late 70's where Bowie and Eno were having a real laugh in that they told him to emulate guitar riffs which were really highly processed, in some places backwards and spliced together snippets. They were amazed when a day later he had the tunes down.

fav dan moments? that 7 note piano intro to My Old School upsurped by horns

The Official Statement from Electric Light Orchestra:

The ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA have cancelled their fall tour, which was scheduled to begin in early
September. The decision was made today. ELO regret any inconvenience this may have caused fans who
purchased tickets for the trek early on.

"ELO wanted to put on the grand spectacle with a massive stage and light show that the group is
known for," said management. "And that's just not logistically or economically possible in this
marketplace at this time." Ticket holders can obtain refunds at the point of purchase.

Fans will still be able to catch ELO in concert on a PBS special which is airing nationwide throughout
August and September.

I actually sent a letter to Craig Fruin, who manages ELO (as well as Steely Dan), and said I thought he and his other associates were aiming too high in terms of ticket prices and venue size. Simply put, not that many people care about ELO
enough to see them (at a steep price) or purchase a poorly promoted new album, despite their arsenal of guilty pleasure hits from the past.

woops, the post at Wednesday, August 15, 19101 at 15:25:11
under my name was really not me. Confused? Well so am I, this is a first, who would want to be Chips, for crissakes?

w1p:speachless is so right on.

W1P...don't be a hypocrite, there are times where people HAVE responded to your post and you haven't so much as given them a nod. Here, have a crying towel, and scroll back a few weeks.

"Cry a jag on me"

topic:

zappa conducting techniques never used by stokowski:

#3(#1 & #2 provided by howard): "if i want something played 'heavy metal', i put both hands near my crotch and do 'BIG BALLS'. each guy in the band understands what the norms and 'expected mannerisms' are for these different musical styles, and will instantly 'translate' a song into that musical 'dialect'."

"conducting is when you draw designs in the nowhere - with a stick, or with your hands - which are interpreted as instructional messages by guys wearing bow ties who wish they were fishing."

worm, no singing... whew ! he sings adequate back-up with yes but on his own sounds like "butterscotch waterfall faery music"...

personally, i think jeff porcaro was a gifted musician and the logistics or semantics of his demise fail to cloud that memory i hold of him and his contribution.

Clas--even though you are agonizing my sternum and forcing me to miss P.E. I must say you have a great "gay" art style not unlike John Linen.

Tell me, have you done anything about all the "X" entering the U.S. from your country?

I think not. You are a fair-weather hypocrite and that's worse than not being one at all!

Please admonish your countrymen to stop sending drugs to the god fearing people in America.

Thank You,

P.S.

I'm in touch with the undertakers. They are....are....actually planning for their fans!

Now, let's see what they do with central air...

Fuck the Raelians,

Yas Sir

Duncan - re Deacon Blues, I guess you're thinking about the muted guitar, it's called ÓpickingÓ, it's a typical West Coast sound.

Howard, Z and other guitar-players can tell more about this technique.

And W Beckers bass on that song is excellent! Very econmically (fastidious?), lots of space.

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JK - a while ago I read your post at the Blue Side regarding your song on the GBook CD, I listened to Delta yesterday. So what is this bullshit you're saying, your song is GREAT man. No shit.

C

µ - oui!

score;

Sweden - Texas:

1 - 1

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W1P - yeah, I've been to your wwwebsite too. But I couldn't download any music. What's wrong?

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Don Pardo - Jim Keltner it is. Your ticket to that wheel in space is coming soon.

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Chips - maybe you'll be better off at the blue pages.

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Months ago I saw Prince at the west-coast Letterman-copy (what's his name again?), damn, Prince is a cruel Rhodes-player.

Did anyone see Brian Wilson hosting Letterman? How was he?

C

Speaking of being ignored.... :-)
W1P: Spent some of lunch hour reading your web site. Thought you might like to know that.

Mu: What about this for Green Flower Street. The bridge (is that the right word for it?) is a dream sequence by the protagonist. In other words, it is all in his mind. If the streets were so tough that wine and kerosene were stinking up the streets, fire bombs, etc. There is no way the lovers would just be doing what is said in those lyrics. A fantasy of what they do, might be his way to leave reality behind. What the 2 of them do when they are together, is slightly different. As real life has a tendency to be.

Dr. K: You were planning on leaving us?

Good evening all....

A thousand years roll by....

Yeah, this "lack of a repsonse" thing has me worried because very few people respond to anything I put up here!

what a boring day. ever notice that the most boring people go on and on about what they think, regardless of the lack of response?

OK, I'll agree to "blinking" such "ads" if we can delete all non Steely Dan content posts. Otherwise, Steely Dan tribute bands are definitely Steely Dan related and more Steely Dan related than 65% of what appears in SIS.

Hey St Al: can you make these band advertisements blink on and off like the ad's on other pages?

If this post is blinking, press okay, you have won a prize.....

OKAY

Please Join Steely Fan Band for an evening of music by the sea!
This Saturday night, August 18, Join us in Huntington Beach, Ca, at Hurricanes Bar and Grill!
Downtown Main Street is a very happening part of town and you won't want to miss this show as we return home to Orange County! Showtime is 9:00pm!
Also, Tickets are still available for our show with Tommy Chong of Cheech and Chong at The Coach House on August 24th!
Call the SFB hotline to order your tickets at 714-540-8510. Attached is a flyer that gets you $2.00 off the face value so order today!
Thanks
Mr.Sticks
Steely Fan Band

mr.sticks

Hold on, I'm confused. Isn't z and Warren Kruger the same asshole?

CLONAID clearly plans to produce the clones to man the off-shore gambling computer cubicles...

I just popped in to say I must be going (to quote Mr.PC)but I was astounded to hear of OLE's participation in the healing arts.
After all, it was she who gave me the idea for OHrus and I'm happy to report that business has doubled in the past week- the OH on Shelter Island has started cognitive-behavioral therapy with me after many weeks of pleading, but unfortunately the commute and ferry fare have eaten up any profit I would've made, and they're not interested in anything but a house call.
Well, at least I've managed to nail down all the OH work in the city and LI. Two- mine and the Shelter Isle hound.
So what manner of practice do ye have lass?
I imagine it must be something like faith-healing- laying on of hands and whatnot, or more likely some backwoods variant on the old witch doctor practice- secret herbs and potions only found in the darkest of marshes.
Well, good luck to you lass, but don't start to think of yourself as my equal. After all, I have been trained in the finest off-shore foreign medical schools and your training probably consists of rummaging through the spells and potions of some broken-down backwater gypsy ju-ju queen.

Great site man.
Keep on with good work.

http://websurfing.freeservers.com

That's it! How stupid of me! - This quote-stem cell research-unquote is just part of the syndicate's work on colonization; all part of the bigger plan!

Quick, get Chris Carter on the phone, I want to be written back into the show, - Scully, get that kid in a daycare center!

the truth is where you find it, what the hell, my movies suck anyway...

I should add - telomerase repairs clipped telomeres.

Jimbo: Thanks - that clears things up. See Clas, we're both right again...

Walter: I am familiar with the research center. Limited or lacking IGF2 receptors are only one of a billion things that could go wrong. The reporter or scientists extrapolated way too far - The Titanic Syndrome - this kind of idiocy is in our genes. Depressed IGF2 receptors were NOT Dolly's main problem anyway. The cells used for cloning there were a type of adult cell with telomeres (part of a crhomosome that allows replication) were too short. In most adult cells except for cancer and muscle cells, each time a cell divides, the telomeres are clipped. Some types of cells have more telomerase (like cancer cells) than others. Once the telomeres grow to short, cell division and the cell cycle stop - clock out. Dolly's "clock" is winding early I'm afraid. That's one of the main reasons the embyonic cells are attractive for cloning. Still, development of cloned mammals is much more difficult than the press is leading you to believe. I expect though progess to be made and no doubt that adult and/or embyonic stem cell research will be a great boon, though not a panacea for many diseases. A non-implanted embyo in a petri dish, even though it has the genetic code cannot develop into a human unless implanted - so I;m in favor of embyonic stem cell research - private R&D is soaring and the feds took the first baby step (no pun intended). I do have a concern about potential "embryo factories."

One of the ironies is that "in vivo uterine cloning" exists today: IDENTICAL TWINS!! Result of splitting of an embyo early on in development after implantation in the uterine wall. Would you use your identical twin for spare parts and discard him/her? Think about it.

Contestants, don't put down you pens yet. Back to work for me - will check in at 6pm to check your "questions?"

Clas- When I first heard of Porcaro's death, coroners said it was
due to a mixture of cocaine and an allegic reaction to pesticides
while he was working in his garden. So the cocaine part may be true.

Aussie-Thanks for the report. Next year, I plan to go to Newport. I wanted to this year, but financial priorites proved otherwise. On the subject of Dr. Cosby. Well, he's a comedian.
And comedians are supposed to have a little fun. It's no different from Bill Murray when he's at a charity pro-am golf tournament. No matter what he does, say or wear, Murray provides a lot of levity. So, with all due respect, I think Cosby was just trying to bring a lighter moment, especially during a rainstorm.

But, I agree that the reserved seating there was ridiculous.
People should sit anywhere they want, even if it's near the stage. BUT I MISSED DIANA KRALL! DARN IT! Well, I hope she's there next year or a least come to Pittsburgh.

Thanks for the info guys.

Next post: Aja in Rolling Stone Album's Hall of Fame.

"Steviedan" - The album you referred to was "Stephen Stills - Live" (1975), which is available on CD (remastered in 1991). It has a great electric version of the Buffalo Springfield classic, "Four Days Gone."

In addition, for all you other posters out there, 'Steeleye Span' was a folk-rock band that actually started and was initially better known (in England) BEFORE Steely Dan... There's no connection between the names other than coincidence.

"I'm a bookeeper's son / I don't want to shoot no one..."
- Steely Dan, "Don't Take Me Alive," 1976

Why is the US Department of Defense financially supporting this study?

http://news.excite.com/news/ap/010815/00/news-human-cloning

We now return you to your scheduled program....Mu? Comments?

Roy Scam - I was about to make a comment on your Steeleye Span-post but I could hold back, isn't that great?

Schwinn - you Mac-owner! Where the hell is my Carbinated Potatoe-Water?

C

That would be Jim Keltner Clas.

My favourite small SD part is right at the end of Deacon Blues & it sounds lick a guitar being Plucked there is probably a name for this type of playing but I'm afraid I don't know it yet.

It lasts about min & half & as I said sounds like picking / plucking faintly in the background
Cheers off to watch England V Holland tonight

Stevie Dan - so, email your address and I'll send you some Bill Evans and Monica Zetterlund.

atelje.lundkvist@swipnet.se

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Mu - give up now Mu, I am moving on, but if you want to respond, well... fine.

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Howard - is the Bass Clarinette playing the fifth in the end of BS? Thanks for the info, I have never heard that damn Clarinette, I'll go home now seeing (!) if I can find it.

How's your vacation this far? Where in France are you?

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Next trivia;

who's playng the Garbage Can on Josie?

Pouzesses Sortie,

C

roy and Mu aja it was
steelyspan is a folk group along the lines of fairport convention. I was wondering where you were getting the reggae influence
deanwurmer krall address - bergeon@shellus.com
thanks auss
will have to look at Mu's latest
T

Roy: Here's where all that goodwill you've built up over the years kicks in. We'll let you off this time, just don't do it again.

Most of my favorites non-guitar solos have been mentioned, but I can add Warren Bernhardt's piano during AIA's Book of Liars.

steely phil: That's Walter's altered voice, according to the Book of Brian.

wt: latest trivia looks like Aja to me. As for the CD rack, the one within reach at the computer desk has the expected SD, plus a few that Roy.Scam dubbed "Metha-Dan," such as China Crisis, Love And Money, the Technicolor Motorhome collections and discs from ygk and FloraDavid.

Then there are the vinyl versions...let's see, IIRC, there's Steam (the Na-Na-Hey-Hey crew; bought at some garage sale for maybe a quarter), then CBAT, CTE, and on through the Nightfly, then Every Picture Tells A Story.

CORRECTION

Final Jeopardy. Here are you clues:

October, off the map, Runnin' on Empty, Giant Stadium, Kung Fu, the Beatles, Duke, Ryder, I Got the News

~: What is Aja?

Final Jeopardy. Here are you clues:

October, off the map, Runnin' on Empty, Giant Stadium, Kung Fu, the Beatles, Ryder, Duke, I Got the News

keepin the worm's thread alive

angel/wt: actually one side is stereo mc's (no, really, they're pretty good)(then it's my almost complete al stewart) and the other side of steely dan on my cd rack is squirrel nut zippers (then the specials, then a band called something happens, then the smithereens)

forgive the amount of room i'm about to use, but this song "end of the day" imho, is one of the most simple and beautiful songs ever played:

And in the evening when the day goes down
She leaves the bright house lights
Stands and watches with her coat pulled around
At torches light the western skies
Sometimes she thinks she knows him just too well
Other times not much at all
They live their lives in some familiar spell
And catch each other when they fall
Nothing lasts, well she knows, try to hang on
When it's gone, you'll be burned
Fashions and friends come and go
Everyone travels that road in their turn

She wants to run out where the day meets the night
Far beyond these midwest farms
But she'll be with him till the day she finds
A stranger lying in her arms

it's on time passages, dust off that lp (no pun intended)

guitar tabs, etc also available at:
http://rylibweb.man.ac.uk/data1/sy/jch/alwords/alslist.htm

what's in YOUR wallet?!!!!

z~ Allow me to retract my statements about Steeleye Span before the stupidity police come to slap the cuffs on me. It was another group that does the reggae song with Babylon in the title and the Haitian Divorce sounding guitar. I was the innocent victim of musical misidentification. I'm going to blame disc jockey error since I have nothing to gain by making myself look wrong. All I know about Steeleye Span is that their name seems derivative of Steely Dan.
Thinking has been difficult for me lately; I've been issued a restraining order that prevents me from coming within 100 yards of my brain.

Good morning all....

Steviedan: Thanks for the nod on my review. I enjoyed doing it.
I can definitely understand why you would not want to perform, but an evening with Dan music definitely adds to the color to the event.

Aussie: Thanks for your review. I have always wanted to go to Newport for the Jazz Festival. Now, I have. Sort of.

LP: Al Stewart. I loved "Year of the Cat". It always brings me back to the land of "Oz", snow and all. lol
I also have on record, "Time Passages". Al used alot of historical references in his songs. In a way, sort of Steely.
He also used the eastern theme in Year of the Cat. Sort of like Bodhisattva.

School starts for the young one today, summer's almost gone....

Sparkle in your China....

aus: great review, i am regretful we did not get down there this year - miss you, hope to "see" you soon

2vN blaring at 5:30 AM today at the dining room table finishing a planting plan for my husband - a good start to the day? it's not just for breakfast anymore kids....my neighbors will agree...

Steviedan: Done.

Dean Wurmer: Pictures of Ms. Krall coming your way. If you like...

Chere: Blasting you all week last week and early part of this week but all I get is answering machine....what goes on little brujita???

Aja: Pleasure to see you drop in and catch up with you...

FloriDavid: Hearty chuckles as always bud. Jambon!

Aus

stevieD - absolutely no singing or drum machines on the latest Steve Howe disc. And I've heard a few of those arghhh

auss - awesome color as usual, glad you had a great time
Peel Me a Grape indeed

next trivia question

what is

ending, evolving, resigning, theatrical, tragic, sensual, celibratory

ausreport(TM). aus, have your people call my people...

blasie, this is NOT funny.

sure hated to miss that call. full schedule today of violin and drum lessons so needless to say, i was out. as far as the playing goes, i know we play tomorrow in durham and friday at the embassy (the EMBASSY it was, y'all, NOT the sheraton and as of friday, yes we are back). past that, much to the constant irritation of my wife, i will have to check in with my illustrious associate. in a way, i would rather NOT be playing/working during festification/festisfaction due to a limiting effect on socialization with fellow festers/festees. regardless, i'll check with dan the date man tomorrow. ole, thanx a bunch for the friendly message...

lots of good reading with west coast colour from angel & stevee and of course the ausreport (TM)

steviedan cool ska band: slackers

steviedan namedropper award: gina for "jim keltner"

second runner-up: eLLe for "petula clark"

excellent, ladies !

howard, i've heard that zappa had many unconventional conducting techniques to say the least. next few days i'll try to hit my zappa books to relate some. do you recall any others ?

clas, i thought "going to paris" was a metaphor. i was sure that the worm virus had destroyed your computer. hope you enjoyed the holiday.

bf, did you say moe does dan ? moe is an underrated band in my opinion. definitely one of the better "jam bands". thanx for the tip.

floridave, on the hi-hat stand ? that's crazy man, but i can relate. i used to do bass parts with midi pedals while playing guitar. i don't think i enjoyed a single gig while i was doing that, even though it made me a better musician... and dancer as well. organ grinder AND monkey rolled into one.

worm on howe: what about the "singing ratio", tom. high or low ?

randy, a friend and i were JUST expounding on the stills canon on the phone a couple of nights ago. definite high points: "stephen stills 2", "stills", "manassas". what ever happened to the live record with one side acoustic, one side electric ? ever on cd ? now i've got to check the cdnow database...

On THIS issue?

Thanx for the review Aussie.
I actually heard some of that rock and/or roll you kids seem to love, that I liked. On the end credits of the recent movie "Touch", David Grohl, of Foo Fighter fame, wrote the theme song, sung by both him and Louise Post, of Veruca Salt.
Simple, but nice, sounded like neo-Arthur Lee Love band music.
Do Veruca Salt do anything like that?

You can't call Bob Dole a horse's pitui. Bob Dole has the little blue drink and the little blue pill. Bob Dole's pumping that little bleached girl in the little blue dress like a Kentucky racehorse. Bob Dole say you better put Bob Dole back in the barn before the Freakness Stakes.

Speaking in third person now, huh? You are one sick puppie, Elle! I'd suggest stopping while you're ahead - you're looking lamer by the post on this issue!

Forgot to mention-

Cyn: 'CSN' ('77) is one of my all time favorites by anyone. "Run From Tears" and "I Give You Give, Blind" are stellar. Lived through much of the same...

"Snakehips": Get in let's go(!) Nice to hear from you. Write back when you can...

RoyScam: Also happy to see another Becker fan who puts him in ranking with all the other top-flight players...

Aja: Thanks for the kind words (weeks ago)... Keep a postin'...

"A hidden connection is stronger than an obvious one" - Heraclitus

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com

and someone should inform the ass with the "extra baggage" that eLLe understands that child molestation is a baaaaad thing(see how you type that.. you extend the a.. as in ah.. not the d.. as in ba-duhduhduhduhduhduhduhduh)
however just because someone "stuck it to you" when you were a child, is none of my concern, and you should stop taking out your frustrations on people who clearly don't "give a fuck" and seek professional help.

DeanWurmer (and others wanting more colour from your Faithful and Humble Narrator's recent Newport, Rhode Island Jazz Festival exposure): As I opened the official JVC Jazz Festival 2001 Programme, I notised to my horror that my written notes were missing. I had written a review with all of you in mind on the neon green insert detailing the day's lineup on both stages for the Saturday performances at Fort Adams State Park... rats!

The notes were especially colourful on Jerry Gonzalez and the Fort Apache Band, Roy Hargrove Quintet and the Dave Brubeck Quartet.

Also making an appearance was Dr. Bill Cosby and his assembled band Cos of Good Music. I will do my best to do a quick recap on each of the performances.... One quick note: For the first time, the Newport Jazz Festival made available reserved seating..this was a bad move. The seats are way uncomfortable and way too close together with little leg room and a compleat lack of freedom to move about or even to get up and groove away. Luckily for us, we opted to do what we always have done on all past Newport Jazz fests, and that is to set up camp with beach chairs and a coolerful of goodies to eat and drink...really, the only way to go...when the rains came those poor souls in reserved seating were in sheer misery.

Special mention to Simon Shaheen & Quantara which blended Arabic and Middle Eastern Mussic into hardcore jazz grooves...these cats played on the Mercedes Benz Pavillion (the "second stage")and had everyone under the tent and its surroundings compleatly spellbound. At least to yours truly, this blend was quasars forward and tore through cultural divides like the burritos at Taco Hell do thru intestinal innards. Mr. Shaheen was unusually receptive to the crowd and the band's spirit was uplifting in more ways than one to everyone within earshot of this phenomenal blend of music. In two words: They Smoked.

Dr. Cosby's ensemble came during the time the rain was falling and opened the set with a rendition of "Singin' in the Rain". I was not impressed at all with Dr. Cosby's overly exxagerated motions in "directing" his band...and he actually loused up some killer rhythms the band was laying down with his ill-timed and way off tune striking of a set of timbales. And for the love of God...he came out wearing a dingy pair of white coloured sweat pants which looked absolutely and dreadfully awful for the ocassion...what goes in in his head? Throughout the performance, the good people from Rhode Island State Police let me walk right to the foot of the stage and I managed to squeeze off some terrific pictures of Dr. Cosby, Ms. Diana Krall, and Mr. Dave Brubeck...(Babes had them developed yesterday and if there are any interested readers I will try to send copies of any of the aforementiuoned artists).....

Ms. Diana Krall (35 years old) was amazing. She came on last. Besides the fact that she's a cutie pie supreme (she waltzed out wearing a stunning pair of tight black leather pants and wearing black shades...long flowing gorgeous head of hair too)she rocked the house with Jazz standards. The raspy voice was nonetheless an inviting bedroom one (the programme review written by Tom Terrell hit the nail on the head: " smoky blue contralto voice...can ooze from Fred Astraire's sprightly "Let's Face the Music and Dance into a wistful bossa nova ballad, and goose "Let's Fall in Love" til it bubbles-bounces-sparkles like the first time all over again, and remake/remodel a hoary cabaret torch song like "Peel me a Grape" into a devilish after-hours vamp")....she commented more than once about how creepily quiet the crowd was during her numbers...she got an A plus.

Dave Brubeck. Absolutely adorable in his white jacket, white business shirt with classic english collar, and silk yellow tie with Hermes-like pattern, healthy head of silver hair. His cohorts similarly classically aged with the drummer also ssporting a white jacket and the sax player Soft spoken and at 80 years old, this cat hasn't lost a single second
on his hand speed when playing the piano. Terrific numbers with the one disappointment being no Take Five. Pics of Mr. Brubeck are good.

Jerry Gonzalez and the Fort Apache Band: wowowowowow. Probably the best of the day with serious competition from Mr. Simon Shaheen. They opened the show. And their blend of latin rhythms with jazz was deliciously superb. Finely executed and gigantically talented, Mr. Gonzalez played congas and woodwinds like the devil himself. Because my notes were so good for this segment of the show I feel that going from memory here is not what I need to do....BUT, if any of you ever get the chanse to see the cats play..RUN. And go cheque them out....you won't be disappointed. The one thing I loved about Mr. Gonzalez was that after he set the stage ablaze with amazing conga or woodwind work, he would walk away from the stage with the serene calmness of a Robert Fripp and smoke a ciggie while the rest of the Fort Apache ensemble finished off the crowd with highly toxic grooves that could awaken any long slumbering dead and buried.

Roy Hargrove Quintet. Talk about detached cool. These guys too smoked. Mr Hargrove wore all white and evoked on more than one number real shades of the master, Mr. Miles Davis. Great set, great band.

Major regret/miss: Ravi Coltrane. On the second stage. Mr. John Coltrane's son played during Ms. Krall's performance....and he played longer beacuse I could hear him wailing on the sax as we filed out. Your faithful narrator was hosting his mother-in-law, aunt-in-law, friends from California and of course, Babes, so after Ms. Krall's performance the elder folk had had just about enough excitement for the day......thank the Lord I thought to pack full length military ponchos for everyone in our group. Basically saved the day.

Hope this suffices Wormy.

Aus

z: You're right of course...that's a critical Bacharach element...

Someone should whisper in that nag's ear "Elle, child molesting is a baddddddddd thing!"

To "The Arbitrator"-

You said: "Nightfly - Don't think you would have questioned Steven Stills' appearance in your riding class had you been in Cyn's shoes, what was she supposed to say "Yo, fat boy, you already know how to ride, take a hike..."

I wasn't suggesting Cyn should have questioned anything... She wouldn't know Stills had any experience unless he said so (or if it was evident from his riding). I'm aware that it's an ongoing process and there's always room for improvement - old equestrian friends as well as some knowledge of my own. I said I was "surprised"... Perhaps I should have said I "find it interesting." It should also be noted that I did say "perhaps he was brushing up."

Caught a couple of Marty Roberts' instructional shows a few years ago which were engaging and insightful (the real "Horse Whisperer," for those who care)...

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com

Well can't say she doesnt.

Yeah we've seen your pic - you LOOK like a Manson Bitch!

Chaz is my bestfriend, can't wait till he gets sprung, yah freak.
now run along and get a life

...and OJ won the Heisman Trophy - what's your point, Nimby?

so I guess you don't listen to the Beatles or the Stones, EVER?
those were a couple of Billy's steady gigs..
and Steve Gadd plays with "The SD Orchestra", throughout the years..and with Preston
so I guess that makes you a total hypocrite.

Take = Have = Take = Have

Just a Horse of a Different Colour

Cyn take another Bribe...?

Yeah, sure, Like I can control what other people write. If that was the case your ass woulda been outta here a LONGGGG time ago.

Randy...CSN'77, is one of my all time favorite albums, right behind 4 Way Street(#1). I am Dark Star...I live in a Cathedral...I'll play you a song just before you go, then I'll give to you Blind.

Now, Open up the Gates and let the Anon outta here!

Cyn have another bribe.

To Nightfly: Don't think you would have questioned Steven Stills' appearance in your riding class had you been in Cyn's shoes, what was she supposed to say "Yo, fat boy, you already know how to ride, take a hike"...
If Steven Stills is a knowledgeable and experienced horseman then he would be the first one to tell you that riding and horsemanship are an ongoing learning experience. One never knows enough, or everything. If horsemanship had a set of commandments, the first one would (or at least should) be "Thou shall not be a know-it-all" (ergo: humility)
As to the meatloaf, all I can say is where have all the dogs gone?

Mu- That was a muted trumpet solo in "Almost Gothic" and it was played by Leonhart ala Miles Davisky.
Roy- I know Steeleye Span as an English Folk-Rock kind of group that sings about Fantasy subjects- myths, wars, ships, etc... are they doing reggae now?
Howard- I think the Bass Clarinet player was Roger Rosenberg, a local New York boy whose main axe is Bari Sax. Have a nice holiday, your honor roll certificate is in the mail.

I've got a pipe ain't got no crack in it
But I've got some tasty grass
I'm going down to Trancas Market, yeah
Gonna' get me some young teenage ass...

Will he lick 'round their sphincters
As he's high as a bird up in the sky
Will he go in front of Judge Mira
And tell another pathetic lie?

I'm just a loser, ain't got no morals
Hope the bad guy wins every once in a while
I've shot my kidneys out with pounds of coke
But I think I'll score another vial...

Will he light another fire (bum, bum dweedl-ee dumb, dumb)
Then make an insurance claim
Driving up everyone's homeowner's premiums
Now "Billy Arson" is my name!

I've had two strikes in California
Better hope that I don't get three
If they catch me chasin' down those surfer boys
They'll lock me up and toss the key!!!

Will he lick 'round their sphincters
As he's high as a bird up in the sky
Will he go in front of Judge Mira
And tell another pathetic lie?

Cyn-

You wrote:

"Next time you get a chance to talk to Stephen Stills ask him about the time he (and his wife) were at Potomac Horse center in Gaithersburg back in '75, and he was in a class instructed by a pyscho, hell-bent-for leather, stand on your head at a full gallop student instructor. That was me..."

It's surprising that Stills would be going for any instruction for riding as he's known among friends who "know" as a great rider... He's owned horses since '69 or '70 and rode as a child as well if I'm not mistaken... Guess he was brushing up...

Stills is another big influence on my songwriting, guitar work and vocals... Truly one of the greats and very underrated, though (once again) not at my house. Check out the album 'CSN' (1977) for some of his best work-

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com

Cyn: very cool story

Hey Randy aka..Nightfly,
Next time you get a chance to talk to Stephen Stills ask him about the time he (and Wife) were at Potomac Horse center in Gaithersburg back in 75, and he was in a class instructed by a pyscho, hell-bent-for leather,stand on your head at a full gallop student instructor. That was me...LOL.
Story goes as follows,
I'm late for class, come jogging in with horse in tow, See another man standing with Brian (real instructor) holding a horse. I line up,winded and trying like hell to remember where I'd seen this guy before. Then they start walking towards me, all of a sudden the world stops and I realise....OMG, ITS STEPHEN STILLS! There I am , trying to be ever so cool and unruffled during our introduction (Thank God for riding gloves...my hands were sweatin') Brian informs us that Stills was joining our class for instruction. O.K., Fine by me....until Brian tells me its my day to instruct. The world stops again...I'm thinkin' what if he falls off? What if his horse falls? What if I fall? or my horse falls? What if they serve that awful meatloaf for dinner tonight?
Well, none of those things happened,( But I can't remember anything about the meatloaf). I did exercise my Instructor's Power and made him work like the devil. HEY, he was there to learn, and I'm sure he learned.... to NEVER take another riding class with a student instructor....LOL.

Tally Ho!

How the hell can you tell WHAT she say?

hey eLLe, didn't you hang with Charles "back in the day" (as you say)? god, that must have been so cool.....what's he really like?

Yeah, and Charlie Manson made some mistakes too - maybe we can get his sorry ass to play rhythm guitar. Sorry, "Elle" - I have ZERO respect for the guy. Sexual predators of minors get no second chance in my book. Justify it in your tiny little mind (it's "noble" by the way...) all you want, but it IS what it is...and that shit AIN'T right!

Steely-folk:

Don't know if any of you folks here are interested, but I was a regular contributor to the Crosby, Stills & Nash Website from '96-'99, writing concert reviews, commentaries, book reviews, and interviews. I also did a piece for producer/engineer Stephen Barncard (who has worked for CSN, CSNY, Van Morrison, Joe Cocker, David Bromberg, The Grateful Dead, etc.), which can be found at:

http://www.barncard.com/barncards/sqb/SQBhtml/sqb_RandyBio.html

(The photo was several years ago when I was sans beard.) Barcard has now made the old site I worked for the "official" one, and I'll be doing some new contributions in the near future. The whole arrangement was a great deal as I became friends with David Crosby (he calls me "Nightfly" - he's a big fan of Steely Dan) as well as getting to meet Stills and Nash. My last piece for the old site even had a Steely mention... Check it out:

http://www.alpha.nl/CSN/frames.html

Once you're there, you've got to click on the red "Site Specials" button (on the left) and then scroll down to "THE CSN&Y REUNION: Read this special website article." Hope you dig it...

WE NOW RETURN TO OUR SCHEDULED PROGRAMMING

"I'm Lester the Nightfly / Hello Baton Rouge / Won't you turn your radio down / respect the 7 second delay we use..."

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com

mistakes = robbery, insurance fraud, child molestation, and lotsa cocaine

wow, some mistakes

stealin a keg from a fraternity party, pool hopping at midnight, a little speed to get through finals week, hhmm, pales in comparison

but the former list makes for better lyrics for a skeevy character in a steely dan song

Clapton
Andy Fairweather Low
Nathan
Steve Gadd
David Sancious
all of the European people who attended
all of USA and Canada who attended
(the concert)
as well as myself...
WE ALL CONDONE CHILD MOLESTATION!!!!!!!
isn't that special.

you with no name..
oh! let ME get this right..he made a mistake and PAID for it by doing time, and now people like EC,are giving him a chance to redeem himself.. what a nobel gesture
of course someone like you..perfect in every way..never made any mistakes... wouldn't understand something like that
piss off

http://www.rockonthenet.com/artists-p/billypreston_main.htm

take the brown bag off yer head and maybe..just maybe,nah forget that.. file that under NEVER..
look.. why don't you go to the next Clapton show and get up on stage and tell that to a full- capacity audience going nuts as Billy does his solos.. ok?

if you can't handle what people do in this industry.. maybe you should find another hobby..LMAO!!!!!
it's only Rock and Roll.

and it's been you, woman
right down the line

i just want to say-ay
this is my way of
telling
you everything

I take that back.

usually never gets put away.. the gem's are usually stacked on the speaker.. or amp.
:D

*next thing I remember she was all moved in and I was buying her a washing machine* -JBrowne...my hopsing still sings that line to me.

*little one, whatcha gonna do? little one, honey it's all up to you
now you're daddy's in the den "shootin up" the evening news
mamma's with a friend, lately she's been so confused
little one come on take my hand,now I may not have the answer but I believe I gotta plan
honey you shake
and I'll rattle
and we'll roll on down the line....
see if we can't get in touch with a very good friend of mine
...honey lemme introduce you to my red neck friend....

well they gotta little list of things of which they don't appove

etc.

WOOOHOOOOOOOOO
J.Browne styleee

...you've been as constant as the Northern Star, the brightest light that shines...

enter the ta-do ta-do thingy here

didn't we do this topic already?

Is Billy Preston low enough to be Steely Dan movie icon?

ygk, where are you?

Elle, let me get this right: if a man molests underage boys (as Preston DID, and was jailed for it), then that's ok because it's his "sexual preference"??? Christ, woman - pull your head out of your ass!

hello Miss Dugan- yes, I hear you and agree.Ditto to the person who slagged Billy Preston when I mentioned he was playing with Clapton last week. Look, I don't give a rat's arse about people who make music, who make GOOD music and their previous or present drug habits or sexual preferences. Billy rocks, and he rocked us.

Like Chris Rock says, "If someone HASN'T been through shit in the rock and rool industry, then there ISN'T a story"..talking about VH1's profiles of muscians and the similar biographies etc.
and that isn't a word for word quote of Chris Rocks, but you the drift.

I've heard all these whisperings about Walter using and so on..and SO WHAT? That's what most muscians who make it -do.
Judy Garland, was speedfreak.. Billy Holiday was a junkie..what's so new about it?
*yawn*

cd racks in alphabetical order is one of the few things in my life that has any order in it and that is under my control - LOL big time, huh?

wormy: for me, on my cd rack, i think it's smithereens and al stewart - but i'll check when i go home

I know you have probably heard it a hundred times, but have you noticed the voice in King of the World saying "I think my face is on Fire"?

new thread

what cd's alphabetically occur just before and after your Steely Dan discs?

I have em sorta in rock
so it's
Squeeze - East Side Story
Rod Stewart - Every Picture Tells A Story

wt

Babylon Sisters - bass clarinet

Re: D. Hannah - Jackson did hit her...didn't believe it before, but I heard her speak of the incident at a party in June. Flame me if you wish, but I heard it straight for the horse's mouth.

...lunch break!

paige: Ilked your summary of SD topics. That pretty well covers 'em. And Spades sounds better.(A counter to Alice's Queen of Hearts)

Oleander: Haven't had a chance to check out Mary's catalogue, but thanks for the point. I've got such a backlog of books to read from other people, it'll be a while before I go searching for more. SF people tend to overwhelm each other when they fibooks to read from other people, it'll be a while before I go searching for more. SF people tend to overwhelm each other when they find a like mind. I've got 2 bags of books home from other people.

Daaaaano: Who needs drugs when you'va got Daaaaaano.

z: Funny stuff. And I appreciate your criticisms. No man is a god and when you're public, you set yourself up for it.

Mu:This joni thing is a new one for me. She wrote a song about the incident on the "Van Gogh" album(name escapes me,now). Histamines!!!! And I don't think cocaine is traceable for that long a period.

Back to work. Oh, MC, we got your rain, thanks. Now we just need a week of it and we'll be alright. It was enough to fill out the corn which is gonna be supper tonight!

z & clas = shit sticks together

W Geena: That's the rumor (pretty cool) - but it proves my point that people are much more interested in salacious rumors than the truth. Joni did write a not so kind song without naming names or graphic details. Yet Mr. Browne insisted on very defensively jumping on her case calling Joni a "troubled woman" and more (that part's NOT a rumor).

I agree that multiple newspaper sources are taken from the wire services. However, those sources are almost always identified in the fine print next to the front caption of the report. Many major newspapers also have their own traveling reporters as well (i.e., Lois Lane or Clark Kent). I should have been more specific. I saw an on-site report (a "Dirty Laundry" pretty face - this was a guy standing on Porcaro's driveway - I'll admit that Henley has written a few decent songs - Johnny Can't Read is another good one) and separate accounts from the news wireS. Since local talking heads can't write and can barely read - it's beyond unlikely that the field reporter wrote the story for 3 or 4 news wires. Therefore, any AP and/or UPI, or Reuters, or traveling news reporter etc. report(s) would be independent.

Mu-- Re: Jeff Porcaros death. I hate to admit it, but Clas is finally right about something.

Clas - clarinet is on Babylon Sisters. Not sure who played it. Wasn't sure if it was a bass or "ordinary" clarinet (see earlier post). It plays some of those low parallel 5ths later on in the song.

Howard

Mu: Also several different news sources can mean that it originally came from one source. Most newspapers, media, etc. subscribe to at least one or two newswires, (Associated Press, for instance). it's not uncommon for reporters to use those feeds and write their own stories from it. It's also not uncommon for reporters to borrow stories written by other sources, i.e., newspapers, radio broadcasts, magazines, the list goes on.

Are you serious about Joni beating the crap out of JB??? WOW! That lady is tough!!

word on the street - Joni then beat the everlasting shit out of JB. She's tough.

Roy: Excellent category - non-guitar solos. Beisdes the excellent solos you've mentioned:

1. The organ? solo that makes up the second half of the instrumental break in Turn That Heartbeat Over Again. Shades of things to come - sounds a bit like Almost Gothic...

2. Omartian Outtro to Throw Back the Little Ones (is that long enough for a solo?)

3. John Klemmer solo on Caves of Altamira

4. Victor Feldman electric piano on Black Cow

5. Synth blues harp on Home At Last

6. Mounsey piano solo on Glamour Profession

7. Synth blues harp on Century's End

8. Trombone solo (Jim Pugh? not sure) on Almost Gothic

9. Vibe solo on Negative Girl

mu: joni mitchell? no kidding....what's up with that guy?

Clas: Wait: "several diferent sources" What does that mean? Numerous Independent News reports at the time stated that Jeff Porcaro went into anaphylaxis. Most news reporters cannot spell, pronounce, or define anaphylaxis - why would they lie and all make up the same word they don't understand?

Allergic reactions are caused by (too) high levels of a type of antibody - IgE (immunoglobulin E) that's specific for a protein or protein fragment or amino acid-like structure. Now, cocaine is not a protein or a protein fragment or an amino acid. Therefore, one cannot go into anaphylaxis DIRECTLY due to cocaine. Would cocaine abuse weaken the heart and harden the arteries so that Porcaro would be less likely to survive anaphylaxis? Most certainly. But that's not an absolute - as anaphylaxis can kill without prior use of cocaine. Unless you can produce the coroner's report, I'm sticking to last year's papers...

I'll make ya a deal. I'll say that Porcaro OD'd on cocaine, if you admit that Jackson Browne beat the everlasting shit out of Darryl Hannah and Joni Mitchell ;-0

hey Roy can I mention Phillingane's work on Maxine as well
that lovely piano tinkling does me every time

any other work by him one would recommend?

six stringers
the new Steve Howe (Yes axeman) all acoustic album Natural Timbre is a real keeper. Lost of varied styles from country fingerpicking, classical to jazz stylings. Guitars, mandolins, kyoto,etc. Lusciously recorded

waiting patiently for aussie color on Newport, especially Diana Krall. That Nice jazzfest had the same key performers as NOJF

angel thanks for the Amen Corner embellishment
had me chuckling, look out blaise

and I guess one could figure out or short list the album clues by number of songs, but isn't it more challenging by just trying to dig appart the clues? Are you with me Dr?

Queen of Spades (right?)

wt

mtb

I have yet another dumb, yet pointless, question: Did the reggae group Steeleye Span intentionally make their name to play off of Steely Dan? I noticed that they have a song called "Babylon the Bandit" (a good song despite annoying percussion), which has a guitar solo which is quite similar to the solo in "Haitian Divorce". These guys don't copy or steal from Steely Dan, but some of the overlaps defy coincidence.

Randy~ It's good to see others who rank Walter Becker's guitar solos up there with all the hired axes (or is that axen?) My favorites are Black Friday and Bad Sneakers. One should also nod to Rick Derringer on "Chain Lightening" and Jay Graydon on "Peg"; how many great gutarists did he have to beat out just to get that solo recorded? -- I would buy a whole CD of "Peg"s with each of the attempted solos.

My favorite non-guitar solos:
Ruby Baby (piano, Phillinganes)
East St. Louis Toddle Loo (piano, ?)
Fire In the Hole (piano, Fagen)
Dr. Wu (sax, Woods)
Black Cow (sax, ?)

And what's that sweet pea sounding instrument that solos on "Home At Last"? That controlled warpedness works so perfectly with that song, it's just almost diabolical.

oleander~ By the power vested in me by no known institution or entity, I hereby grant you 'a few days off' to catch up with the Guestbooks. Just tell those people, "Patients, heal thyselves!" It will take them three days to figure out that you misused the quote.

RS

Miss. Dugan - no, YOU are pathetic.

C

z and others - trivia; who plays the Bass Clarinette and on which song, on the Gaucho Album. No cheating!

C

µ - You're remembering wrong, I heard from several diferent sources coke was the main cause to his death. Coke abuse among show biz kids in Los Angeles in the 70s and 80s was just as common as pot-smoking are among middle aged US-citizens today.

(listen to all those nasal voices in all those laid back songs)

---

Lars - hope you had a great time! We had, the Stranger and his wife are very nice people! Paris is great, not always nice, but, great. Lots of great food, and MuseŽ d'Orsay was just amazing, all those impressionists!

And I'll tell you another time how well the Stranger managed to blend in in the traffic!

C

z - I can never remember all those trumpet mute names, that's why I made one up ... Is a "plunger" mute one that sits in the end of the bell, or do you hold it and waggle it around as you play?

You could be right about the opening 5ths - keyboard may be playing them as well.

Such a beautiful song. One of it's (many) everlasting charms is that Purdie snare/hi-hat almost-but-not-quite-on-the-beat shuffle thing. Sounds "so fine", but I can never quite work out what's going on. I should probably spend less time worrying about it, and more time just enjoying it.

I'm off on holidays for a couple of weeks, to ponder the "eau plat" vs "eau gaseuse" question in France.

Howard

Miss Angel-
Alright, stick with the 80, but on Parents Night, I don't wanna hear your parents and/or guardians complain "why did my precious little Angel only get an 80 in your class. She made the honor roll in all of her other classes. Are you gonna make it so our little girl doesn't get into an Ivy League school and winds up rotting away on the Bowery with her brother Jose?
No way! You change this grade to a 95 or we're gonna get your ass kicked outta here and you're back on the street selling weed like you probably did before you were a teacher!"

''Beggars life''
oh dear I thought it was vagas life
Duncan

LP: yes
'' every day in every way i get a little better ''
LOL

Ole!!! how are ya girlfriend!!! Yes, a prince and a very well mannered one at that!

i just popped in here for a few seconds to say hi to everyone and suddenly i became very tired...No no, it's not anyone's company or posts...it's very late......so i'll be back later to do some important reading...

nite nite all...

z/x: Gee Mr. Z, the most I was ever asked to do, to bribe a teacher, was buy him some Wild Turkey. Needless to say, the teacher never got any of that from me.
Uh, I think an 80 is just fine actually. Got an after school activity that conflicts with your "meeting". LOL

Lars: The problem is the knotholes. They used poor quality wood and filled the knotholes with putty. It works, it just doesn't look good at all and there are lots of them. I have never painted it, but I always wondered if that would at least mask the problem. But the bottom line is, you should not have to spend more money to fix a product. Oh well. Live and learn.

Wormy: I think you need to pick and choose cuts. It gets to the point where you mentally go through how many cuts are on an album and cross off the wrong choices. Oops, gave away my secret. Aja was fairly easy, too. It just had Gaucho as competition. Considering my mental state when I saw your question this morning, it was a miracle any answer came out of my head.

Paige: I am sorry I had to break the news to you. It was a beautiful deconstruction. Don't give up.

LP: I can't believe you RAN OUT OF GAS. Come on, a Steely Dan fan always asks, "Is there gas in the car?" before driving. :-)

Good evening all....

In the car....

YOWIE!!!!

The moon must be in exegesis!

Paige, Mu, Cray Zee, negi, Scam--GIT down! I love it. Now if someone would just award me a few days off to get caught up.

jj--I thought "The Sparrow" was absorbing too. Did you read the other one? (name escapes me--"Children of God" or something.) Interesting premise.

Howard & z--the Colossi of Riffs.

Hank--the 21st century is already overrated.

angel--kd is ok; he just had to make an untimely departure from the OBX. I'll leave the details up to him.

ennemennemen--how goes it?

Anybody see "Sexy Beast"? Very well put together. And Ben Kingsley? Sounds straight outta the GB. He is incredible.

Does anybody know where to get the guitar version of "FM"?

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And now a word from the ACC DanFest Committee:

Alas, the Outer Banks DanFest scheduled for the weekend of August 18th is off.

However, the relentless momentum of the ACC Contingent rolls on. We are determined to convene sometime in September or October, probably in a more central location, e.g. Raleigh. Weigh in on the listbot: write raleigh@dandom.com with proposed dates, activities, locales, substances, raffle items, etc.

steviedan, how's about a rowdy audience for one of your gigs?

Jim#, yer on. I just can't see stevie hitchin' all the way up here with his band.

Angel...

You mean it's "Queen of Spain" and NOT "Queen of Spades?"
Damn!

Gee, that changes everything.

Regarding post on Night By Night...nevermind.

-Paige

See Albums and Lyrics on this website.

Really? There's an article that features Tom Scott putting down WB for being useless on Aja? Where? Oh boy! I can't wait to rip into this one! Anything to expose these guys and make up for the fact that I never played on one of their albums and had to sit around and listen to them!
Boy! You really got my number Miz Crabstree! I mean Dugan.

Newport Jazz Festival: Tons of great performances. Saturday session was the day to be there....rained only for about 20 minutes but Sunday was a huge washout. While we were chequing out of the Hyatt Regency in Goat Island on Sunday, the one and only Mr. Ray Charles was chequing in...he was headlining the performances on Sunday but we didn't go to the performances yesterday. Looked frail and gray.

Notable performances from the Dave Brubeck Quartet, Diana Krall (got tons good pictures of her and Mr. Brubeck)and an outfit called Fort Apache (local from NYC) which lit the stage afire.

More specific colour later as I settle back in.

Aus

z: and after Howard answers all your questions you can go to the chalk board and show us all of Donald and Walter's faults. You can lecture us on how they are human and make mistakes like everyone else. You can scan the internet for 2 days and come up with an article on Tom Scott talking about how fucked up Walter was during the Aja sessions and how Donald had to do all the work. Then we'll break out the violins and you can cry about how if you had only gotten your big break how you would be playing on Steely Dan records instead of talking about them. You're pathetic!

Angel - "Though it works fine, the quality is terrible" ????? What is quality then?

Clas - sans au avec? Is there gas in the car?

Last report on on the Nice Jazz Fest; Van Morrison swept the floor with BB King and Keb Mo is the future after Van the Man.

z: I read Howard's answers up to the point where i realized that I understood about 1/10 of the questions...

Hopelessly out of my league in the Neo-South.

thank you to wow...no more deludin for you!

Deludin? Never touch the stuff, it's just so bad for ya - burp, hic.....

Whoops, sorry about the double post- running a little low on deludin, you know how those things are...

Class! Please come to order! Now I have the results of yesterday's BS quiz- no Ms. Crabstree, that doesn't stand for bullbleep, in fact, I'm giving you a minus for cursing in front of the class- get yo funky ass outta here and go see Principal Sweet right now!
Okay, as usual, only two of you even bothered to take the test, the rest of you are just gonna hafta take this class over and over and over again, till you wind up like Bart Simpson in that one episode where he'e in his 30s and still waiting on line in the school cafeteria. What? You don't watch The Simpsons? That's another minus.
Now Miss Angel, come up and get your paper. I gave you an 80.
You're not happy with an 80? Look honey, you only answered 2 of the ten questions correctly and I gave you 60 points extra credit cause you went to the SD concerts back in the 90's. If you want to get a higher grade, you have to meet with me after school and take part in that uh extra credit project I said was only open to the girls in the class.
What time? Uh, I think the janitors have left by 4:30, so make it 4:40, and don't tell your parents or friends about this, please!
Howard Wright, come and get your paper. Now this is what a test paper is supposed to look like. I gave you 100+. I don't even know what you're doing in this class, you know more than I do about the subject. I didn't even catch those guitar fills at the end. No, I'll take your word for it.
I think the keyboard plays some of those 5ths in the intro, but you're probably right anyway.
I think that was a plunger mute on number 5, but you get full credit for it anyway, cause I never heard of the mute you mentioned, I'll have to ask one of the trumpet players on the gig Wednesday.
You left out #6, but that was kind of a trick question anyway.
The answer is DF and WB do not play on either Negative Girl or Babylon Sisters. This is a tradition with SD. They don't play on one song from each album they record. On Aja? Er, I'm not sure, was it Glamour Profession? I'll, er, have to ask Principal Sweet.
Very good on the vocal harmony on the Santa Ana winds part. Of course I ,er, knew that it was triads and not 3rds like I- well, I just thought I'd make it a little easier for the class, they're not up to 3 part harmony yet. BTW, that was Neil Young for the 2nd part.
The rest was excellent- perfect on the 8th note triplets.

Class! Please come to order! Now I have the results of yesterday's BS quiz- no Ms. Crabstree, that doesn't stand for bullbleep, in fact, I'm giving you a minus for cursing in front of the class- get yo funky ass outta here and go see Principal Sweet right now!
Okay, as usual, only two of you even bothered to take the test, the rest of you are just gonna hafta take this class over and over and over again, till you wind up like Bart Simpson in that one episode where he'e in his 30s and still waiting on line in the school cafeteria. What? You don't watch The Simpsons? That's another minus.
Now Miss Angel, come up and get your paper. I gave you an 80.
You're not happy with an 80? Look honey, you only answered 2 of the ten questions correctly and I gave you 60 points extra credit cause you went to the SD concerts back in the 90's. If you want to get a higher grade, you have to meet with me after school and take part in that uh extra credit project I said was only open to the girls in the class.
What time? Uh, I think the janitors have left by 4:30, so make it 4:40, and don't tell your parents or friends about this, please!
Howard Wright, come and get your paper. Now this is what a test paper is supposed to look like. I gave you 100+. I don't even know what you're doing in this class, you know more than I do about the subject. I didn't even catch those guitar fills at the end. No, I'll take your word for it.
I think the keyboard plays some of those 5ths in the intro, but you're probably right anyway.
I think that was a plunger mute on number 5, but you get full credit for it anyway, cause I never heard of the mute you mentioned, I'll have to ask one of the trumpet players on the gig Wednesday.
You left out #6, but that was kind of a trick question anyway.
The answer is DF and WB do not play on either Negative Girl or Babylon Sisters. This is a tradition with SD. They don't play on one song from each album they record. On Aja? Er, I'm not sure, was it Glamour Profession? I'll, er, have to ask Principal Sweet.
Very good on the vocal harmony on the Santa Ana winds part. Of course I ,er, knew that it was triads and not 3rds like I- well, I just thought I'd make it a little easier for the class, they're not up to 3 part harmony yet. BTW, that was Neil Young for the 2nd part.
The rest was excellent- perfect on the 8th note triplets.

Off to see more bleedin customers , but before I go??

WIP , Dan I also heard the Australian Pink Floyd are the best around and have got fabulous reviews , so I may catch them soon until then mate its C/D City.

jj , We going out on the lash or what?? few sherberts good company , plenty of belly laughs. What else is better in life , apart from a deaf and dumb nymphomaniac living above a chip shop, and across from the racetrack.

Au Re Va.........daaaaaaaaaaaaaano , till Black Friday comes

who needs past lives
here's a little scoop from the Dan's
family tree

11) Uncle fester Diaz was a gun slinger in the wild west
that is until he met Aja an Asian women who supplied parishables for the railway men... then he rode off into the sunset
10)Claribel Katz was a humble Minnie Sota prairie gal who enjoyed passing the time by tweaking the knobs on her cast iron wood cooking stove
9) First Mate Aaron Becker was a sailor on the Cook excursions into the south Pacific
8) Silent Film puppetter star Davey Palmer enjoyed a critical run of success until his movies were replaced by phonographic advancements.
7) Wilber "Armadillo" Baxter was a successful catapult constructor and enjoyed making wonderful noises splitting wood.
6) Food packager Arnold Libby Titus passed on his millions and his namesake to his granddaughter
5) Jim Porcaro trained movie animals in the 30's and 40's, most notably Wilbur the Horse and Toto the dog.
4) Reggie Rainey was a crop worker released from slavery in the delta region of Mississippi. Reggie was very prolithic and developed an efficient method of slapping not picking cotton
3) Bernadette Purdue was an adventuresome telegraph runner in her day. She claims to have been along with Paul Revere and ushered in the Gold Rush of 49. Her method of sorting mail at the trading post was nicknamed the Purdie Shuffle
2) Vanessa Cave was a dashing red haired botanist stationed in Austin Texas who studied earth worms and other annelids
1) Darma Fagen was a recluse founding Mother of our Constitution. In order to keep things quiet her name was grossly written over by one Jonathan Handcock.

"Sh/vpoma@hotmail.com" - 'Boston Rag' duly noted...

Solo by Skunk is another one of my all time favorites... Many others left out as well ('The Fez,' 'Bad Sneakers,' 'Throw Back The Little Ones')...

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com

y viva Espana

Just back from 2 weeks in the sunny Canaries, lovely jubbly. A bit of sun on my back, a break from work, excellent.
Duncan, I prefer my agua 'sin' gas, or flat, to you and me, but MUCH prefer Cervecas or vino

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaano, how's it hangin, big man???!!

Hope everyone is well

Peace
Al

randy - with a gun, razor boy

and how about the guitar on Boston Rag????

sh
tell all your buddies that it ain't no drag

I'm compiling everyone's contributions in connection with my post from last Thursday (8/9)concerning everyone's 2 least favorite Steely Dan tunes (for those who give a shit)... It'll be accurate within a posting or so... I'll wait 'til this Thursday (8/16) in case there are more contributions...

In the meantime, I was thinking of some of my favorite guitar solos from Dan tunes and came up with the following (off the top of my memory):

'Night By Night' (Jeff Baxter), 'I Got The News' (Becker), 'Your Gold Teeth II' (Denny Dias), 'Two Against Nature' (Becker), 'Aja' (Becker and Dias), 'Black Friday' (Becker), 'Reelin' In The Years' (Elliot Randall), 'Pretzel Logic' (Becker), 'Don't Take Me Alive' (Larry Carlton), 'Green Earrings' (Randall), 'Lucky Henry' (Dean Parks and Adam Rogers), 'Junkie Girl' (Becker), 'Home At Last' (Becker), right, that's enough-

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com

LP, angel. Thanks.

Clas: If I remember correctly, Jeff Porcaro went into anaphylaxis, a severe allergic reaction that can involve constriction of arteries in the heart, loss of blood fluid from blood vessels in the rest of the body due to dilation and leakage, shock, and/or constriction of airways in the lungs (they can't breathe). It can be treated with epinephrine injection, but that has to be given quickly. Follow-up therapy with prednisone is also common. His underlying heart problem which was probably at least in part related to cocaine (traces were found in his blood - that could go back months though), probably didn't help to pull him through, but that's no guarantee. Thousand of people without underlying heart ailments or cocaine use die from reactions involving anaphylaxis every year.

z - here goes with the Babylon Sisters Qs:

1 - a (snare + 2 toms)

2 - single line guitar fills? During the fade-out, the guitar plays:

E-------------------------------
B-------------------------------
G------------10--10-------------
D-----10-12--10--10-------------
A--12---------------------------
E-------------------------------

do the first three notes count as a single line fill ?!?

3 - b and c? I think the guitar and bass play the low 5ths during the intro (though I havn't got the CD here to check ...)

4 - different key? Original starts on F#, nearly all live versions in recent years start on F

5 - trumpet mute... could it be the "neo-plastic bucket" mute?

7 - this is a trick question right? The vocal harmonies for "Here comes those Santa Ana winds" are in three parts, so there's more than one interval. The first two triads I hear are (low to high) DbGbBb ("here come those") then DbFAb ("Santa Ana Winds").

8 - saxes start in the intro, with that lovely build up to the second "shake it" figure.

9 - (from memory) trumpet starts during 2nd verse (assuming the brass sections before that are just saxes ... or are there some clarinets mixed in there too?)

10 - triplet 8th notes, starting one before the 3rd beat of the bar:

ONE two three TWO two three THREE two three FOUR two three
You've got to shake it ba - by (etc)

last "it" is slurred over three triplet 8ths.

BTW, feel free to deduct points for smart-arse attitide ;-)

Good luck with the arrangement though - hope it turns out well.

Howard

paige and mu: you are awesome in your dissections, oleander's going to have alot of cuttin and pastin to do in here! i've often thought about night by night in a similar way, but you confirmed it - that's great, thanks!

and mu, i don't really smoke, i just threaten to myself i'm gonna start up again whenever i get a little stressed out....just a stupid joke

dano - rob, like me, is swamped in work and very difficult situations, bordering on mental breakdowns, but overall, we're okay (?)--- camping in maine at the end of the month can't come soon enough

gina - i enlisted nmn's help in providing assistance to your friend of a friend - i don't live near where she is moving too but i have happy memories and some planning-like recollections except nmn topped me on the traffic problems out there, rose-colored glasses you know.....

cheers to you duncan, hope your typing improves soon - use all the fingers, not just 2 okay? LOL-smirk.....

i am embarrassed to post my car ran out of gas on the way to work this morning - never did that before in my life (keys locked in the car, yes) - misjudged the mile counter we use due to a broken gas gauge on the impreza we are using - i told these people: buy a legacy, don't buy an impreza - dammit!

speaking of dammit, my 2 year old dropped her doll on the floor and said quietly, "shoot-dammit" - i said "christ, stop saying that" - roflmao, no i didn't say that......

and, in my desperation of becoming the night shift around here: my free computer from a cyber-friend at IBM has a dead ethernet card so i can't get in!!!!! arrggghh..........

if a primal scream gets posted at some point today, you will know who it's from

STEVEEDAN

Aja is the correct answer

and now Bob Eubanks will tell what wonderful prizes you have won.

MC gave the link, any of these related?

Fagan, James Fleming b. March 1, 1828. d. September 1, 1893.
Major General, Confederate States Army.
Mount Holly Cemetery, Little Rock, Arkansas, USA.

Fagan, Maurice E. b. October 6, 1846. d. February 4, 1899.
Civil War Union Army Officer. Served in the Civil War as Lieutenant Colonel of the 19th Pennsylvania
Volunteer Cavalry. (Bio contributed by Russ Dodge).
Laurel Hill Cemetery, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA.

Becker, August H. b. February 13, 1840. d. October 3, 1903.
Becker was a noted artist, best known for his paintings of Indian genre, animals & portraits. In 1888, he
restored the murals (lunettes) originally painted by Carl Wimar in the St. Louis Old Courthouse, site of the
famous Dred Scott trial. (Bio contributed by Connie Nisinger).
Bellefontaine Cemetery, Saint Louis, Missouri, USA.
Specific Interment Location: Block 107, Lot 3577.

Becker, Beals (David) b. July 5, 1886. d. August 16, 1943.
Major League Baseball Player. Played Major League baseball as an outfielder for 8 seasons (1908-1915).
Broke in with the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1908, but played only 20 games that season before being traded to
the Boston Braves. The next year with the Braves he played in all 152 games in the season for the only
time in his career. He was then sent to the New York Giants in 1910, playing for them for the next three
years, and appearing with them in the 1911 and 1912 World Series (the Giants lost both of them, first to the
Philadelphia A's, then to the Boston Red Sox). Acquired by the Cincinnati Reds in 1913, he appeared in 30
games for them before being traded to the Philadelphia Phillies in mid-season. He became the Phils
starting outfielder, batting 316 in 1913. In 1914 (his best year) he batted .325, finishing second to
Brooklyn's Jake Daubert's .329 average. In 1915 he helped the Phils to the World Series, where they lost
to the Red Sox 4 games to 1. He appeared in only two games of the series, and his playing days were over
after the Red Sox's win. During his career he gained a reputation for being very sensitive to fan criticism
(called "having rabbit-ears"), and played markedly better on the road than at home. His career totals were
876 games played, 763 hits, 45 homes runs and a .276 batting average. (Bio contributed by Russ Dodge).
Inglewood Park Cemetery, Inglewood, California, USA.
Specific Interment Location: Sanctuary of Devotion Mausoleum, Crypt 180.

Becker, Frank b. August 27, 1899. d. September 4, 1981.
US Congressman from NY 1953 - 1965.
Long Island National Cemetery, Farmingdale, Long Island, New York, USA.
Specific Interment Location: Section 3D, Grave 2660.

Becker, Heinz b. August 26, 1915. d. November 11, 1991.
First baseman for the Chicago Cubs, 1943, 1945-46 and the Cleveland Indians, 1946-47.
Restland Memorial Park, Dallas, Texas, USA.
Specific Interment Location: WILDWOOD URN GARDEN SPACE 91.
GPS coordinates: 32.55696, -96.44636 (hddd.dddd)

Becker, Jacques b. 1906. d. 1960.
Filmmaker ("Casque d'Or" with Simone Signoret).
Cimetiere de Montparnasse, Paris, France.

Becker, Ralph Elihu b. January 29, 1907. d. August 24, 1994.
Foreign Service Officer, U.S. Ambassador Honduras 1976-1977. His collection of political memorabilia
"Ralph E. Becker Collection of Political Americana" dating to 1790 of
ribbons,buttons,prints,cartoons,broadsheets and brochures were donated to the Smithsonian Institution in
1992.
Arlington National Cemetery , Arlington, Virginia, USA.
Specific Interment Location: Columbarium, Court 3 Section OO Stack 25-1.

Becker, William Dee b. October 23, 1876. d. August 1, 1943.
William Becker went to Harvard & was admitted to the Missouri Bar. He served as a judge on the St.
Louis Court of Appeals form 1917 to 1940. While still serving as a judge, Becker won the election for
mayor of St. Louis. As mayor, Becker was a leading proponent of aviation. He pushed for the expansion
of Lambert Field & the development of a second airport. On Sunday, August 1, 1943, thousands of
spectators gathered at Lambert Field for an air show. Mayor Becker & several city & county officials
went up in a army glider, which had made a successful test flight earlier in the day. The C-47 airplane
towing the glider made three passes in front of the spectators & released the glider. Almost immediately
the right wing of the glider buckled & separated form the fuselage. The glider was sent spinning towards
the earth & hit the ground at an estimated 230 miles per hour. There were no survivors. William Becker
was the second mayor of St. Louis to die in office. (Bio contributed by Connie Nisinger).
Bellefontaine Cemetery, Saint Louis, Missouri, USA.
Cause of Death: Plane crash.

Regarding quiz question from:

"round four - what is -
supportive, escaping, reclusive, admiring, wandering, conniving, co-conspirating" ?

At first I thought it was Gaucho, but now I think it's AJA. Final answer, what is Aja?

Angel - thanks for the compliment on the Black Cow solo.

So, some of you believe that it was the combination of Porcaro's lifestyle and pesiticides that did him in? Interesting.

Steveedan

a curious if somewhat morbid site:

http://www.findagrave.com/

this talk of Jeff Porcaro's death had me checking out Google and I ran across this:

http://www.findagrave.com/pictures/6330.html

round 5
WHO CARES!

round four

what is

supportive, escaping, reclusive, admiring, wandering, conniving, co-conspirating

Angel
Your answer is correct
was mystic too easy a clue?

What is Countdown to Ecstasy.

what is

mystic, naive, nostalgic, nostradamic, critical, avoidant, smitten, self-reliant

Angel
Your answer is correct
was mystic too easy a clue?

What is Countdown to Ecstasy.

what is

mystic, naive, nostalgic, nostradamic, critical, avoidant, smitten, self-reliant

Dr Mu - sorry to have to bail on you friday - work called
like minds think alike?
odd we would both pick Pretzel Logic next

enjoyed your wine and kerosine Green Flower Street
diversions as well
yes very specific time and place images cast with that one

Roy Scam - good to have you back regularly
that wasn't me suggesting your phrasings were topsoilantries
gee, there's plenty of room for us all to have fun with the english and a few other languages
and eyed sir tan leigh prix furr a roy elle die gretchen to ones own sub turr rain Ian wand urr rings.

jj - I'm not holed up in some dark stone tower in Isengard but the name wormtongue is not lost on me. ;-)
How'd I get the name - long story, but the shoe fits
I could probably enlighten you offline

Angel - glad you enjoyed the amen corner

look for new trivia soon

there's a special place for lovers
one we understand

wt

Right up the road in Great Barrington - and I didn't go. In fact I haven't been to a concert all year, except the Steely Dammed show in NYC. Too expensive, to tough to arrange a sitter, previous family commitments, tickets sold out before I even knew about it - take your pick, it means no concerts.

And who wouldn't go to hear a set of sonic experimentaion?

Jam-band stars moe. (scheduled to play two nights at the Orpheum Sept. 13-14) captured the main-stage crowd with a forceful set of sonic experimentation capped by a twisting run through Steely Dan's ''Bodhisattva.''

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/225/living/A_groovy_jam_filled_Berkfest+.shtml

z- You've got some major issues son.

Oh, Clas! It's kitchen clean because they use acetone as a solvent which leaves no residue.

...it's raining! But for how long?

Clas:Calcified, atrophied, just plain gone! Thanks for backup on Porcaro. That's what I had read.

Paige:Haven't got time to read your take on NBN in detail, but I've always said Spades too. And love the song btw. It's funky.

I found this site about how westernes are dividing the octava in 12 and how we must compromise doing this:

http://www.hlalapansi.demon.co.uk/Acoustics/MusicMaths/MusicMaths.html

Have fun,

C

Angel - you woke up after 3 hours? Oh shit, I hate that too, ask your doc for Stilnoct, pretty harmless, no hangover. You'll sleep like a baby after 10 minutes.

(in France they call them Stilnox, maybe USA have another name for them, Still-Knocked?)

IKEA - cheap but it's not free.

Synthesizers - the problem with them is; they are not tuned the way you tune pianos, we call it Tempered Tuning over here. So that's why Fagen hate them. For his sensitive ears Synth-music sounds like a pain in the back.

And there's an interesting part in Brian Sweets BIO about the recording of the Nightfly;

After all music was recorded and the only thing left to do was adding the Synths, Fagen wasn't happy with their tuning (read above) and there was no way they could be tuned +0.02 or -0.04 steps. The tech crew had to take a several weeks long course at Hewlett Packart to learn how to fix the stuff.

(that is how I remember how it was said)

I don't know if that's a cock-and-bull story, but if it's true, it's pretty amazing.

C

Ugh, I went to bed early and woke up 3 hours later. I hate that!

Paige: Weighing in on Night by Night, I see. Somehow commenting on this particular song at 1:30 in the morning seems appropriate to me.
Ok, first off. The line is "It's a beggars life said the Queen of Spain" not Queen of Spades (As much as I wish that was the case, since I always had heard it as it's a Vegas life and that works much better with a Queen of Spades.) I got yelled at for that mistake several months ago. :-)
In that vein, there was also talk at the time about who that Queen of Spain might be. Isabella being right up there as a candidate. You might want to try searching the archives for Queen and see what you get. I remember quite a discussion, with research on queens, etc. Other then that, I really like what you have done with the deconstruction. Very cool Paige.

Steveedan: Glad you gave a review on Led Zepagain. I really wished I could have stayed a bit longer to get a better impression, or at least hear a song I knew, to see how they measured up. Thanks.
By the way, my review of SFB missed something very vital. There was a killer keyboard solo done by Stevee, during the performance of Black Cow. You did Victor proud.

W1P: Ok, I admit this. I finally, FINALLY got the name of your tribute band. Last night you mentioned that the line is from "Have a Cigar". Well, that finally made me realize that it was not referring to pigs (my first thought). It is the question that dumb interviewer's must ask the band. Which one of you is Pink Floyd? Steely connection to this is, of course, Which one of you is Steely Dan?

Clas: Yeah, I bought a table from Ikea years ago and still regret it. Though it works fine, the quality is terrible. As you say, life's too short.

z/x: So sue me, I love synth. :-)
3) Rhodes
5) and 9) There were no trumpets in the Steely Dan Orchestra 93. Why did they play this song during that tour then. :-)
8) The intro

NYBill: "Even the great Babylon". A Steely Link! (that's why)

Night all.(again)

To carry them....

The painter? Oh, that's Clas van Gogh;

http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/galleri/

Recently, posters were asked what their least favorite Steely Dan songs were. I was surprised that a couple of people mentioned the song ÒNight By Night.Ó I had always considered this cut to be one of my favorites. Not just due to the edgy musical style (the rock Ôn roll Steely Dan) but also because of the edgy lyrics that reinforce the ambiguity we see in many of their songs.

So, I went to one of my favorite SD sights (OleanderÕs Fever Dreams), to see what others had written concerning Night By Night. I was interested in how others interpreted the lyrics and what possible storyline(s) existed behind the song. To my amazement, there were no interpretations posted for this song.

For years, I had listened to Night By Night and did what I think most people do with any song they hear over and over again. We establish in our minds a certain setting and cast of characters that are mostly born of our own experiences. It could be a word or a whole line that triggers a scene that reappears every time we hear the song. Of course, this may reinforce a storyline that was never intended. But, this is not necessarily a ÒbadÓ thing. I think that we can agree that music, like all forms of art is open to a wide spectrum of interpretation. I have to remind myself that there really is no such thing as a Òbad takeÓ on a song. It is in the ear of the beholder.

That being said, I can think of few other songs that better represent the typical Steely Dan Òpainting.Ó Broad and dark brush strokes that are at once impressionistic and yet surgically specific. This song IS quintessential Steely Dan.

When I think of Steely Dan Ð lyrically, I think of subjects like: drugs, prostitution, sexual perversion, gambling, ill-conceived relationships, mental illness, etc.etc. In Night By Night we see a mixture of these same dark conditions dabbed in what appears to be random association. This makes the bigger picture represented by the song, the subject and meaning in and of itself. It is self-sufficient as a ÒgenericÓ Steely Dan image. The specifics (of the story) are less important when compared to the ÒimageryÓ of the entire song.

But first, a word about the music itselfÉ
Of course, I know nothing about music. So I canÕt do Òmusic speakÓ to all you talented musicians out there. But then again, this may actually give me an advantage. (LetÕs talkÉ)

The music to NBN seems to fit the lyrics to perfection. This is not one of their ÒsimpleÓ tunes. There is a lot going on here. Night By Night seems to mix the horns with the harder rock sound better than other SD offerings. They mix the raw guitar sounds so well with the fluidity of the horn section. Even the violin (like) sounds fill the song with atmosphere. When I hear the complexity of this song (musically), I know that the boys did their homework (so to speak). You can hear the effort that was made to combine everything into a cohesive sound.

The music is angry and forceful. The vocals reinforce this anger throughout. The guitars are raw, crisp and biting and contrast beautifully with the fluidity of the other instruments. Just before the guitar solo (by the way, who is this guy?), you hear the muffled (covered) strings that set up a repeat of the intro. Wonderfully done.

There is anger in this song.

Back to my theory that Night By Night is more a ÒgeneralÓ statement about the misery of the human condition (on the streets) than a specific story. The cryptic lyrics allow for the widest of interpretations. We are left to speculate what is going on hereÉto see beyond the ÒimageryÓ to find a storyline that might have inspired the songÉif one exists at all.

Is this about gambling? Drug sales and distribution? A (serial) killer on the streets? The misery of the downtrodden? Police control in a small town? Or all of the above?

NIGHT BY NIGHT

ÒItÕs a beggars life,Ó said the Queen of Spades
ÒBut donÕt tell it to the poor manÓ

I get the impression that the scene is set in a small city community, which has a thriving Òbad side of town.Ó This side of town is typical of the decay-like conditions of your average dying inner city. There are drugs, prostitution, roaming dogs with no tags, old men standing around a burning 50 gallon drum, their gloves missing the fingers, trying to stay warm.

In this scene we have a drug dealer. The addicted are poor having lost all of their income to their demons. The Queen of Spades seems to refer to ÒfateÓ of the cards. ÒYou must do the best you can with the cards youÕre dealt.Ó The poor man DOES live a Òbeggars lifeÓ and therein we find the contradiction. The Queen of Spades appears as the ÒholderÓ of the cards (or the controller of manÕs fate). No need to tell the poor man. He is already aware of his fate.

ÒÔCause heÕs got to kill for every thrill, the best he can.Ó

Note that the first three lines are spoken by the Queen of Spades. She continues. The addicted need their fix and will do anything to obtain the money for their self-destructive habit. Inner city murders during the commitment of robbery. They do it for the Òthrill.Ó Not the Òthrill of killingÓ but for the thrill of the high they receive from their addictions. So, they ÒkillÓ (rob) for the ÒthrillÓ (high).

Everywhere around me, I see jealousy and mayhem
Because no men have all their peace of mind, to carry them

I love the line Òall their peace of mind, to carry them.Ó
This line is almost like a life lesson or philosophical axiom. Complete and total peace of mind is never achievable. True contentment is somewhere out there just beyond our grasp. This results in the mayhem of our existence. It is the ÒdramaÓ of life. Jealousy exists when we are not content or have peace of mindÉwhen we are full of self-doubt. Self-doubt is as much a part of our existence as breathing. The misery of our human condition is really born from within. I think that this line is saying that if we could (in some perfect world) have total contentment and Òpeace of mind,Ó we could carry ourselves through this world.

(Chorus)
Well, I donÕt care if itÕs wrong or if itÕs right
But until my ship comes in, IÕll live night by night.

Well, hereÕs our first look at the dealer (the narrator). ItÕs pretty straight forward. He is selling drugs. He is contributing to the decline and destruction of the downtrodden. He cares only for the monetary return he receives from the addicts. Yet, there is a hint of conscious. The fact that he mentions that Òhe doesnÕt careÓ in and of itself indicates that he thinks about it. The Ònight by nightÓ line seems to refer to the term Òday by day.Ó We all go to work everyday in search of legal tender at whatever cost to our self-esteem. It is the drudgery of our lives as we Òwait for our ship to come in.Ó This is no different than our narrator. This is HIS job, night after night. He too is waiting for his ship to come in (to hit the big time) when he will not have to sell drugsÉalways on the run.

When the joker tried to tell me,
I could cut it in this rube town

The joker here probably refers back to the Queen of Spades again (cards and fate). But beyond thatÉthe joker could be the dealer above him (in as much as he is the middle man). He is encouraging him that he can make it (as a dealer) in this town. He could build his own little empire of addicts and dealers just as he has done. The ÒrubeÓ town seems to refer to the Òunnecessary complexitiesÓ of drug dealingÉan overly intricate system necessary in insuring the dealerÕs safety. The joker is trying to tell the dealer (narrator) that he can fit within the system

When he tried to hang that sign on me
I said, Òtake it down.Ó

The narrator hates what he does, but he does it out of necessity. The higher dealer (joker) laughs at him as he (the narrator) denies what he isÉa purveyor of drugs (and destruction). Still, the narrator justifies his trade, convincing himself that Òhis ship is about to arrive.Ó ÒSo, donÕt call me a dealer, this is just temporary.Ó

When the dawn patrol got to tell you twice
They donÕt do it with a shotgun

I think that the local authorities are on the take with the dealer(s). They go through the motions of patrolling the streets but do little to combat the scourge of drugs.

Yes, I'm cashin' in this ten-cent life,
For another one

I love this line. It seems clear that the narrator has succumbed to the realization that he cannot escape his fate. He is fully entrenched in this lifestyle of drugs and crime. He can no longer see his ÒshipÓ on the horizon. He sees his life a cheap (without value)ÉÓten cent life.Ó The players may change, but the game remains the same. Thus, even when he attempts to trade in what he is doing, he winds up doing the same thing for someone else.

Well, I ainÕt got the heart, to lose another fight
So until my ship comes in, IÕll live night by night

The narrator is completely defeated. He fights to leave behind what he is doing to himself and othersÉbut it is a fight he will lose yet again. And so he stares off towards the horizon, waiting for his ship to come in.

I saw where there was a Dan fan that created paintings based on his interpretations (or impressions) of SD songs. I donÕt think that this is any different. This is simply a paintingÉan impression.

-Paige

JJ - gas = carbonated, I did go for no gas.

Duncan - don't say you bought IKEA-furniture? Man, time is money!

dr Mu - OUI! I think ÓThe NightflyÓ-lyrics are so great. As you said, just a few words brings up a whole scenery in your head. Who haven't ÓseenÓ the skinny man with two-tone shoes? Or the ÓColonel's standing in the sun... the stupid face, the glasses and the gunÓ?

And I read an interview where Fagen said that the hardest part doing the Nightfly was writing the lyrics, ÓI always kind of turned around for asking Walter how to write, then I realized I was making a solo-album. Lyrics was Walters strong sideÓ.

(freely translated from Mats Olsson's interview in the Swedish newspaper Expressen, 1982)

And lyrics yes, if the Kid Charlemange-line Óon the hill the stuff was laced with keroseneÓ is a cocaine-referense, what is Óbut yours is kitchen cleanÓ meaning? If you need kerosene to extract the coke from the leaves, why is Charlemange's stuff clean? Because his stuff was LSD? Not so physically dangerous?

SteveeDan - oh, I can't afford to go to Los Angeles now, have to stay home and work... to bad. But I have promised the Stranger that I will go and see him someday, so I'll show up.

And Porcaros death WAS related to his Coke-abuse, his coronary arterys was calcified* (which happens after years of daily coke-abuse, see Andy Gibb, and that Little Feat-fellow), that's what made him too sensitive for the weed spraying.

* is that the right word?

z - it should be The Producers :) And your questions? holy shit, to scary.

en sortie le Hommes de Fromage,

C

Dan !!! I did it again. In my last post during the (self-called) shameless plugging segment, I called the Steely Fan Band the Steely DAN Band. Or course this is Freudian. I would love to join the ranks of Warren Bernhart, John Beasley, and Ted Baker and be a Steely Dan Band side man keyboardist. Many body parts of mine are up for grabs for this opportunity.

Z of X - I will do my best to answer your questions about Babylon Sisters, but your comments about synthesizers scares me. If I had roadies, I would use acoustic pianos, Fender Rhodes,Hammond B3 oragns, and clavinets, and the like. I actually own a nice acoustic piano and a pristine Rhodes 88-Stage model, but I can't move these items to gigs. Let's face it. The acoustic piano ain't going anywhere, and moving the Rhodes is like, well, moving a coffin. Six Feet Under on HBO is enough of that action for me these days. Catch you later Zee.

Steveedan (MFM for the SDB, oops, that's SFB)

Hey hey everyone -

I spent the evening last night with an Angel, -- and a pig?

Angel, your accounting of the evening was right on the money. It was great to see you. It's been a long time since Father's Day (the NOHO Festival). Please say hello to Mista Angel, and the budding pianist. Remind little "J" that he could be The King Of The World, as far as we know.

Dan - you ain't no pig that's fo sho. Great oinkage by the way. Larry obviously liked it too. I could hear all of his keyboard stuff last night. Which One's Pink? is absolutely great. Be sure to tell Paul that everyone loves him (well maybe don't, ego-checking might be the order of the day, your call). Hey wasn't that stipper in the pink top killer? I just love the valley. We may be married (with children) but we ain't dead.

Last night was hoppin' and so many of you missed it. Too bad too. If you had gotten there by about 9:45, you wouldn't have gotten in. The place was at capacity by that time. A few Latino Los Angelinos told me so just outside the club while passing around a doob. I graciously declined a toke, but was mildly nonplussed when the leader of the pack wouldn't tell me the year of his beautiful pink cadillac when I could not guess it's year. It was in the mid to late 50's though, that's for sure.

Led Zepagain did a rockin' set. The band was certainly in "character". Robert Plant had the right hair, and all of those body motions and hand gestures down pat. P-P-P-Push Push Push !!! Jimmy Page had the double neck guitar, and the signature sound of the live Page with the Gibson Les Paul Custom. "John Paul Jones" played both Bass guitar and the keyboards. He did a very compitent job. Both "Page" and "Plant" did their parts well with a bit of a live inflection. So you got the studio stuff with a little of the live and loose feel. Very cool. "John Bonham" stood out for me. This guy looks and (also dressed) exactly like Bonzo. He had the headband, the beard, mustache and long hair. It was uncanny. He took a drum solo in Bring It On Home. It was a great tribute to Bonham. I was really impressed by his playing and that solo was so authentic and awesome.

I drove back from Paladino's in the valley to my pad in West LA at about 2:30 AM and promptly watched my 2 hour video tape of the evening. After that, I missed most of Sunday, but Sex In The City was great. Sex in the city is always great, ain't it gang? Sex in the coutry, sex in the 7-11, sex on aisle 5 of Walgreen's, sex in the backseat of daddy's car, stop me when you've had enough (sex, that is).

To Clas Ð avec ou sans gassuse Ð either way Dude, You are quite a gasser !!! When are you coming to Los Angeles? The summer is going to draw to a close soon and we want you and Howard, Dano and Duncan at one of our shows. Dammit man, the inter-DAN-shinal society is at steak (au poive) man.

Jj of middlewood Ð Jeff Porcaro did not die of old age, no. But he also did not die of drug overdosing. He did die of toxidity though. Jeff was using pesticides in his back yard to help him wage the war against the insect kingdom residing there. He inadvertently absorbed the chemicals through his skin and lungs and this is what caused his death. I got this information from JeffÕs accountant. Accept no other accounts as the truth about this amazing drummer. His untimely demise was not one of your typical rock ÔnÕ roll causes.

Oh, and just when you though the shameless plugging was going to subside for a while, WRONG !!! IT'S TIME FOR MORE SHAMELESS PLUGGING !!!!!

The Steely Dan Band will be playing next Saturday night, August 18, 2001, in Manhattan Beach at Hurricane's located at 200 Main Street. We got the whole night. Large set list, fully stocked bar, dancing girls (and their jealous boyfriends - watch out !) and all the action you could want. Well, knowing this crowd, maybe not all the action you could want, but some action that I think you will enjoy. A good start, OK?

The MFM (that's me) is raising the bar for the SFB. With all of these gigs consistently coming up for the band, I have introduced a lot of new charts of Steely Dan material for the band to play. We will not be sitting on our laurels, or our hardys too. We must continue to cover new ground. March or die.

Happy birthday to Pat Metheny. You and Lyle Mays are two of my heros. Have a great week y'all.

Steveedan

Angel- The 40s, yes. In fact I haven't played a note of music this summer from after 1949. Wonderful! I've been working on a plan to exterminate anyone playing or listening to music created after 1964.First the Drum Machine manufacturers.
Next the people who use drum machines.
Then the people who listen to drum machines and like them.
Then the synthesizer manufacturers.
Then the synthesizer players.
Then the people who listen to synthesizers and like them.
Then the recording studios that use double track and higher recording machines.
Then the people who have participated in the use of those recording studios.
Then the people who listen to and like music produced in those recording studios.
Only then will we (or I)live in a livable world again!
Mrs. Crabstree- You've contradicted yourself. I had some respect for me when you put me down intelligently, but now that that's over, so are you.
Clas- Yes, this is why the "producers" do not and cannot play jazz, but they're certainly good at what they can do, which most of the time is a lot more fun to listen to for most people.
Mu- Doctor Warren Kruger and I have completely dissociated ourselves from CLONAID and the Raelians. I haven't been able to locate Doctor Kruger since he went into OH counseling, but I have a good idea of where he must be.
I will have to get in touch with him soon because the deludin supply I "borrowed" from his office is running out and it's either that or commit myself again or get involved in another cult. Each choice seems as good as the other two.
I've begun my arr. of "Babylon Sisters" for H.S. Concert/Jazz Ens. and am listening to DF sing it on a defective cassette player. He sounds a lot like Ozzie Osbourne ("What is this that stands before me?"). I have to depend on a 17 year old effeminate, Puerto Rican, Jehovah's Witness to be DF. That should be interesting. He can't sing on Saturdays, so don't ask him to. Damn good voice and pitch though.
Here are some questions on BS that I can answer, or need answering:
1) Which drums play the quarter note triplet that begins the song? a)the snare drum followed by two tom toms. b)the bass drum followed by two toms c)the tom followed by two snares. d)What is a quarter note triplet?
2) Does the guitar play any single line fills in the song? a) Yes
b)No c)Maybe d)What is a single line fill? e)What is a guitar?
3) Who plays the parallel 5ths throughout the introduction?
a)the Rhodes b)the guitar in power chords c)the bass in double stops d)two Benedictine Monks from the 15th century
4)How does DF's interpretation of this song differ on Plush from the Gaucho album's original version?
5)What type of mute does Joe Wilder use on his trumpet solo on this song?
6)What is the striking similarity between this song and "Negative Girl" on 2vN? Only one answer for this one please.
7)What harmonic interval are the female singers singing the words "Here come those Santa Ana winds again" in? What burnt out rock star who once bragged to a Fillmore East audience "I just bought a D'Aquisto guitar today" do they imitate on this passage?
8)Where do the saxophones make their first entrance in the song?
a)the intro b)the first verse c)the chorus d)there are no saxophones in this song
9)When does the trumpet make his first entrance on this song?
10)What rhythm do the female backup vocalists sing "You got to shake it baby, You got to shake it baby, You got to shake it".
Each question is worth 10 points and anyone who says a word after the test begins will lose 20 points. Anyone caught cheating will automatically- oh wait- I don't start work till September.

Hey Y'all,

Just a little Bob Dylan here (dont ask me why...).

Well the Nieghborhood Bully
He's just on man
His enemies say
He's on thier land
They got him outnumbered
'bout a million to one
got noplace to escape to
noplace to run
He's the nieghborhood bully

Well he knocked out a lynch mob
He was criticized
old ladys condemned him
said he should apologize
and when he destroyed the bomb factory
Hey, nobody was glad
the bombs were meant for him
he was supposed to feel bad
He's the nieghborhood bully

Every empire that enslaved him is gone
Egypt and Rome
Even the great Babylon
He's made a garden of paradise in the desert sand
in bed with no one
under no ones command
He's the nieghborhood bully

What has he done to deserve so many scars?
Has he changed the course of rivers?
Does he pollute the moon and stars?
Nieghborhood bully
standin' on a hill
runnin'out the clock
time standin' still
Nieghborhood Bully.

Thank You
Thank You Very Much

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