SIS Archives -- August 2001

In looking over the posts since we all learned about Cyn's loss, I have to say that I think that what we are seeing here is --

that in the worst of times, people tend to act their best.

God bless you Cyn and your family. We are all thinking about you.

Steveedan

Cyn sweetheart, I am so so sorry

Cyn--Horrible, heartbreaking news. Strength to you, & may you and your kids help each other through this.

Cyn - I'm so very sorry to hear this distressing news. My deepest sympathies to you and your chidren and your in-laws.
I'll be sending good thoughts your way!

Take good care,
Mike

Cyn, I'm terrible in knowing what to say in times like these. Luckily for me the other fine people of the GB offered wonderful comments of support which gives me a chance to simply reiterate them. All the best, W1P

Cyn, much love to you and your family. I so sorry for you loss.

t

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Cyn: So sorry to hear. Our prayers and postivie juju are on the way.

Dear Cyn -

I just logged on to the guest book and learned about your loss. My thoughts are with you and your family. Keep close those around you whom you love and trust at this time. It helps to share the grief that you must be feeling.

Remember that you are not alone. As you know, there are many of us here who stand ready to support you if you need us to.

If there is anything that I can do to help you, please do not hesitate to let me know.

I will say a prayer for you tonight at sundown.

Steveedan

Cyn -As much positive energy as we can send your way. Life is indeed unreal. Stay strong.

Bob Tedde, Peggy Totzke, and the whole group.

The Doctor and I were very sorry to hear about what happened Cyn.
Our deepest sympathies and spiritual deludin sent your way.

Ok, I figured out why it crashed. Apparently my RAT BASTARD ISP is enforcing space limitations and I simply ran out of space in my directory. Nice of them to notify me. Good thing I was able to piece together cached version of the guestbook so nothing was lost. Looks like I'll have to pay more attention to clearing the old archives off the server.

Sorry for the incovenience.

StAl

Ok everyone. I'm thinking a collective positive vibe is needed here. What do you say at 6:00 PM GMT tomorrow afternoon (Saturday) we all send said vibe in the direction of Cyn and her children? I'm setting my pager right now.

GMT = Greenwich Mean Time. For you east coasters, that's 1:00 PM. West coasters, well, you can figure it out...

Awful, awful news.

cyn ~ I can't imagine what it must feel like to lose your spouse. For what it's worth, I hope you two compiled enough happy times to give you memories that last long into old age. Everyone here is thinking of you.

Peace,

Herm

Oh Cyn, I'm so, so, sorry. Sending my thoughts and prayers your way.

Valerie

Cyn-So sorry for your Loss Baby.Sending healing thoughts to you and your Family. David

Thoughts from over the pond Cyn
C/o D,D&L

Cyn....so sorry to hear of your loss. We'll keep a good thought in our hearts for you and your family in the difficult days ahead.

Cyn: Devastating news. So sorry to hear about your loss. Our thoughts and prayers shall be with your family.

Aus & Babes

thanks Face for sharing this news in the graciest way any news like this can be made known. my sympathies for Cyn and her children, their family and friends.
it's tears and laughter, as you put so well, indeed to accompany the cycles of life we experience.

"Sharing the things we know and love
With those of my kind
Libations
Sensations
That stagger the mind"

All joking aside, another trajedy has struck the GB. Cyn's husband passed away suddenly yesterday. She is holding up well thanks to the support of her friends both near and far, her boys are devastated but also are being uplifted by an amazing rallying of their friends and family.

To all who have expressed their sympathy, she hopes you know how much your prayers and messages mean to her and she will be responding to them as soon as she can.

Trying times ahead for all, but with love and laughter (yes, I said laughter, the best medicine, grief keeps it's own hours) she will regroup and carry on.

I will make one suggestion here - to those few who have chosen to bash Cyn, this is a good time to take a vacation.

Face: E me back soon as you can please. Or call my cell if you can find the number.

Jim#, sos, need you to call Cyn ASAP!!

That is what I meant in the first place, asswipe.

ah yes, it cracks me up again LOL
if i was in that audience i'd be amazed, then curious and intrigued (stil dunno if i write this word correctly) and at some point i'd go overboard and be giggly about it. YES, THOSE WINGS.
angel! no wonder she said she had to work all day today .. gone in hiding because she knew someone would spot her and pin down her disguise :-)

out of here now.

Gina: Yeah, I noticed her too. Sort of a post millenium Yoko, eh? But then I saw those paste on wings, and later a halo, even a lei at the finale, and I knew her for what she was.

C'mon angel, fess up. It was you crashin' the Berklee gig...

then why didnt you just say that, asshole? there was previous mention to a chat room or message board being in her web site, so I'm not just being a "bonehead", I'm only questioning what I read in here.

Everyone knows this is the main page related to her web site. This is where most lyrics interpretations that are found on her page originate. The question was so idiotic it deserved a corresponding answer.

http://herso.hypermart.net/flamenco.html
Read Who is Sal and it's definite Dan.
I LOVE people like this guy.

Down Under ... There's something about that continent, really there is ...

Berklee Tribute Noticed The Blue/Purple Wig Wearing Synthesizer enthused student Bow?
G.

OLEANDER'S web site, not the one were on now. Not the one I POSTED THE MESSAGE ON.

pinhead

http://www.seanet.com/Users/stalfnzo/guestbook/guestbook.html

is there a message board or chat room for oleander's web site? If so, what link are we supposed to use?

Tones , cracking review mate , I used to go and see Ferranti because there was three goils to every guy , but i had some hair then to ?? but not no more . Still a dooser of a review mate.

Duncan , Dont get to muellered on Saturday?? Think of me in cold wet Hampden praying we stuff the Croats??

TWM , Talking of which e-mail me for a few swallys poss on Saturday??

Had to travel to Jersey this week , and no Steely as the jam jar had no cd player,what a shit journey?? Radio has gone belly up over here theres no decent station apart from Virgin for the old codgers like me , why is it they rabbit so much and play shit music?? doh. Radio Two seems to be gettin better.
Got back in my car and fired up TAN.

Only three weeks to Florida , my life my boy we need a danfest on International drive , but where are my American friends, to busy getting all yidish on me.

Midnite , Steevie , The Big Lebowski still creases me and Raizin Arizona and Fargo puts me over the bellyache cliff??

Aus , Where is Malcolm mate ?? Is he ok??

Anyone up for getting muellered in three weeks??

Dano

Gee, bubbula -- I mean lovebob -- sure sounds different since the divorce. Whole lotta bobby bondsin goin on.

I just love all this Schteely Dan schtick !!!

Steveedan

Cyn, have another drink

Menachim, You created this monster and its name is Frankelstein...

Nice to see ya again ( I think) SammyDaBull, ya big gumba!

So, my aunt Shirley is crossing 7th avenue, such a hurry she's in.
Just as she reaches the other side a man standing there opens his trenchcoat and flashes her.

"Mister," says Shirl, "you call that a lining?"

Shah! It's like Purim in here.
F

LOL at the Dan-gone-Hebrew -- so how about Nu Frontier...Nu?

Lieber and Stoller, composers of Ruby Bubby -- um, I mean Ruby Baby -- are the subjects of tonight's Biography on A&E here in the USA. More info at biography.com.

Oy! Now THAT's a tribute Band! Hey Clas! Even YOU'LL like this. Brilliant move starting out with Two Against Nature - always seemed like the perfect live song. The complexity comes alive. Excellent vocalist, midriff section - super sax. As the song dismantles at the end and the sax keeps SWINGIN' and SWINGIN' WoW! It seems I'll have to come back later tonight or tomorrow and sit down for 1 hr 47 or so.

Ole: Here at the Wailing Wall! LOL

I admit that I snuck back to the Berklee webcast after posting last night. Did a very quick scan and caught most of each song. Just enough to get the flavor of the interpretation. Blaise, I did indeed love the rendition of Maxine. 4 male students doing harmony, it just gave me chills, to listen to it.
Yeah, caught the sax on 2VN. Way out there, Jazz wise. Book of Liars, I almost didn't recognize, with the female singer doing the honors. Oh, and the guitar on Reelin' was right there. Great future for that student. I did like the tape they ran to introduce D & W. But I think they cut out Moby mentioning a marital aid. :-)
I hope to listen to it in full, over the weekend.

Leave it to me to most mirror a Walter Becker song.... :-)
Gentile Girl (Can't you see she's a Shiksa !)

I agree with Ole. Ducky, where are you. If this conversation and the Berklee webcast won't bring you in for a landing, what will.... (A new album, of course).

Good day all....

My little Junkie Girl....

U tawkin ta me?
Cuz if yaw tawkin ta me den we godda problum ova here ok?
O yaw gunna bringk up John Gotti? U wanna tawk ubowt John
Gotti? Fuhgeddabowit! Eye gat yuh f'kn John Gotti rite here!
O yeah, an if U see dat Don Fagan U telem dat dat load ov
wimins brazierz dat he solt me dont belawn to no Imeda Marcos!
Dat hole Fagan New Yawk Crime Fambily iz awl fukked up! Y'here
dat Don Fagan? U wanna war wit duh Gambinos? Jus lemme no...
An dat sidekik a yawz, dat WB wownd up rollin duh clok on
dat 89' Doge Aries he solt my brudder-in-law! If U 2 keeps it
up den ahm gunna hafta brink it up at duh nekxt cummisin
meetin!

Badabing!,
SammyDBull

LoveBob - big congratulations on landing the tipitinas gig

we will certainly have a gathering for your show in October. Aja and Jim# are already conspiring and anyone else who is interested feel free to come down. Late October is a great time of year on the Bayou.

stevieDan - the new Suzanne Vega album "Songs in Red and Grey is very moving. None of the Mitchell Froom and company sound palet, but less like her first two discs (my fav) and more like Days of Open Hand in instrumentation. The songs for the most part are fairly upbeat considering most of the subject material deals with her divorce from Froom. Still very nice, out in stores 9/25.
I still owe you a JT writeup, perhaps later today

seeing Ole has joined in the fray, I'll add a few in good spirit

absalom sisters
daddy don't live in that Russian City
caves of petra vera
Oh Massada (Bodhisattva)
The Exodus look
Pearl of the Sinea
East Jerusalem Toodle Oo
Arab in Your Soul
Everyone's GOne To The Barmitzva
Bad Sandals
Rabbi Blues (Deacon)
Gaslighting Abromowitz
Two against Islam
Corinthian Divorce
Ricky don't lose that Manora

Vus Macstah Mishpookahs - Can we kibbitz bubbies ?

I vas havink so much fun playing Steely Dan music that I decided to start another tribute band. It's called Klesmer Dan - A Two Jew Review. Here are the tunes we are preparing for the Kibbutz gig we've got on the 3rd of Tishre just after sundown ...

My Old Shool
Brooklyn (Owes the Gonnif Over Mah Jong)
DonÕt Hock Me A Chinik
Bright Lights, Big Electric Bill
Razor Boychic
The Boston Schmata
Your Gold Teeth, My Ass !
King of Kings
Midnight Kibbitzer
Only A Schlemiel Would Say That
Any Mensch Would Tell You
ParkersteinÕs Klesmer Band
Monkey In Your Matzoh Ball Soup (Not Kosher At All)
EveryoneÕs Gone To The Synagoge
Sign In Schmegeggy
Green Herring (Feh !)
The Royal Schmuck
What A Shame About Moishe
West Of Fairfax
Here At The Wailing Wall (Oleander beat us to this one, Feh !, Feh !, Feh!)
Ruby Bubby
Gentile Girl (Can't you see she's a Shiksa !)
Yamakah Too Flat (Mein Keppe's Got No Hair !)
Lucky Hiyam
Medical Science (You Should Become A Doctor !)

And, of course, the encore is Glamour Magila. Give a kick! Be sure to doven in time to the music, and enjoy a nosh provided by our Hadassa Sisterhood. Grab a bagel and a schmier Tottalahs. Di Aynu, La Hitriot. Shalom.

Cantor Steveelah Dan

Furthermore, concerning the Berklee Concert webcast, it seems that the presentation is not as interactive as was previously advertised and that's a shame. You have to go through the whole thing including the speeches, a sort of bathroom break after Hey 19 but hey, who's to complain... I forgot to mention the interesting sax solo closing TAN. Now that is some inspired playing. It takes the melody and twists it around while remaining in the wild spirit of the song. Also, many songs are interesting to hear when rendered by a strong, soulful female voice. I'm thinking of Book Of Liars, DIA, Pretzel Logic, Josie and Peg, for example. That last one is dressed up with a great little sax solo instead as well, neat. I also have to mention the guitar players who manage to pull the parts on Reeling effortlessly, it seems. One of them is Austrian and the other Japanese. Many names to look for in the future are featured in there. There's an awful lot of unexploited talent out there, this webcast shows. I can imagine the frustration of these singers witnessing no-talent hacks living it up while they struggle in relative anonymity like that. The more things change...

It's not as if this ain't a lovely dish, oh in fact i guess it's the BEST dish in weeks now ain't it?
Like angel i only managed the first two songs but not due to technical appliance rather than fatigue staying up too late. And Ole probably sleepwalking all through work grind now :-)

A Berklee Student Tribute in honors of WB & DF is nothing like the regular tribute band thread showing up around these Trees. I won't get in the midst of whatever heat there was or is, but there is a difference in this ONE TIME tribute for a very special occasion and the more frequently tributing happening.
I do remember i didn't really like hearing the first snippets back then when they showed us just a fragment of the evening. My mind was not open to anything but the "real thing" and it sounded pale in comparison to the original.
Now however i must say i had goosebumps all over while almost falling asleep stuck to the mini videoscreen on my laptop and amazed amazed amazed because if the nowadays technical wonders enabling all of this!
It was real great to see young folks on a stage, playing music that's as classic in the rock/pop archives peered to the wiggly Mozart reigning in his quarter of the musical universe.
I am aware of the fine thread in balance when it comes to either playing covers or being designed as a tribute band. Still, it's often the JUST THIS ONCE ONLY that strikes by authority of a sovereign hand. It's also what made Steely Dan unique in their choice to not play live back then and this way role- modelled for the studiophile perfectionist attitude so many other (professional) musicians later on picked up as being this primary state of musical being?
Oh, enough for now, i gotto take it all in again and probably again and again today.

And i will just bluntly say it here, if anyone posting doesn't even mention the Berklee Tribute or listened or seen it which is the nearest to any news about WB & DF now ... i mean, this IS in fact a Steely Dan Guest Book, you know :-)

Banyan Tree Off Topic Drinks Temporarily Not Available Bow?
G.

NEW ORLEANS- Any takers? Somebody out there must know SOMEBODY in Cajunville!?!? Calling all Cousin DupreesÉÉ..

Hey 'Ol. - You know your name is at the top of the guestlist anytime we break the mid country point. Hell, truth is I been stickin' you on the list for our Cat shows lately. Wishful thinking I know.
IÕm a signature (and a six month waiting period) away from losing my status as Jew by marriage, but I donÕt know what ÒBaleboostehÓ means. SÕplain?

HereÕs my 2 scheckles worth before all the good ones are taken- Babylon Schiksas (sp?), Your Gelt Teeth, Gaslighting Mortie, Jew Frontier, JAP Sneakers, Florida Condo, Parkersteins Band, Cousin Scheckie, Jew Companion, FreakinÕ Jews.

Alternate band name: Schlemiely Dan.

IÕm surprised in all the good natured fun that nobody has screamed Òanti-SemiteÓ yet. DonÕt tell me this place has finally developed a sense of humor?

lovebob

Blaise, thanx for the Berklee heads-up! I can't seem to peel myself away from it, though I know I'll pay at work tomorrow.

Menachem--Oy gevalt! I could plotz! Those are hilarious!--Ducky, where are ya?? Won't you add these to the setlist?

Fire in the Challah
Flatbush (Owes The Charmer Over Me)
Razor Goy
Everyone's Gone To The Minyan
Any Macher Dude Will Tell You
Rose Bubbeleh
Baleboosteh (Won't You Take Me By The Hand)
Here At The Wailing Wall
L'Chaim Lightning

and of course

Groucho

Go to Amazon.com now to download Miss Riddle, Holy fuck, that's great! Let's say that most Danfans will really DIG this one. G'night Seattle!

Eddie darling, sorry to hear about Eian darling, much love going out to him tonight.

greek letter..I just heard Payday for the first time a few hours ago.. loved it, *snap *snap
you know,
took me by surprise, being new 'n all

good one :D

Gee, no other nocturnal (and unemployed folks) like me in chat? Too lonely to hang out there.

So while I have been hibernating, the Dan goes back into the studio. Geez, did I miss anything else of import?

Lady B

Menachim: Vat ahh yeh sayiinnnn?? Oy, now THAT's a post!!

I'm waving the white flag but a few cut rate morsels:

Negative Gifeltefish
With my Gums
OyGeeVwy?
Ooohhhhhhhhh, Miami
Don't Take Me Alive. Let Me Die Already!
Chain Store Lighting

Boz Alert: You can download his latest, Payday at www.liquidaudio.com. Very good blues/R&B tune that sounds like a cross between Silk Degrees and early Simply Red. Nice restrained muted trumpet and guitar (sure sounds like Zingg). Would have liked just a little more done with the tune, but still far better than anything else on the radio. His New One is due out in September (21st?) called Dig.

Will try to check out Berklee on the T3 tomorrow...

Menachim, it's a good thing I was alone when I read your cleverly disguised list of songs. I am certain that if I were at work I would have been either fired for goofing off on the internet or immediately escorted to the nearest medical facility for succumbing to convulsive fits of laughter. Good work!

Question of the day:
Since the first time I've seen Gary Condit, I've been trying to figure him out. Tonight I may have had an epiphany. Is it me, or does Gary Condit look more like a pilot for Delta Airlines than an embattled senator?

In the meantime, it's comforting to hear that somewhere in my house, a small, half-human and half-whatever child is walking around sneering and speaking in melodramatic tongues...

I need a Bourbylon Snifter...

Goodnight Gracie and Goodnight Guestbook!

Blaise: Managed to watch 2VN and Do it Again just now. I so wish I had a better set up then a 56K Modem, but this is better then nothing. WHAT A LIGHT SHOW THEY HAD GOING! Sound is great, too.

Herm: So glad you were ok. No, I don't think barbque was a good idea that evening. :-)

Cyn: Glad your son is ok.

Clas: Is there a problem with your website? I tried to see if your new picture was on the Gallery, yet and I could not access it.

Steely Dan reference in the LA Times today. Article on people living longer and they mention that Rock artists will have to update their songs for the older generation. Steely Dan singing "Rikki Don't Lose That Walker", was one of the songs.

Night all....

When you get home....

Missed out on it the first time but now I gotta say...
Great jazzy rendition of Do it Again and TAN kicks things off quite nicely.
Just love the vibe work on Hey 19. The solo adds to the song.
The vocals all over are impressive. In fact, hearing talented singers cover the stuff is a breath of fresh air. No offense.
This version of Maxine (always a favorite here) is fabulous, a high point here in my book and so is hearing Pretzel Logic belted out by a true blues singer.
I think the video presentation before each song with the album of origin, performer and title is a nice touch. Shit, they added the old footage from the HOF thing. Bliss. Josie shakes 'em all down sung by a female.
This is definitely what a tribute should be, imho. And the Boys clearly appreciated this one. This one deserves a second look if not more.
Now back to the ongoing celebration of our friend pink's fascinating, multi-faceted personality.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.

B

but I, wore a hat, and I, had a job, and I, brought home the bacon so that, no one knew . . . I had one chromosome too many. When a problem comes along, I almost always W1P it. Here in the Middle Eastern world.

Menachim~ I laughed myself to the threshold of political incorrectness. Funny stuff. I think "Hey 18.95" was my favorite.

And the Silverstein will turn to Goldberg,

RS

http://www.berklee.edu/html/ab_commwebcast.html

Enjoy!

JW, he has a good board and pads,too. And yes, I know the controversy about the scooters, Now we have lived it. Thanks for the advice!

this is to "ahem".....piss off, asswipe!

Cyn ~ those scooters are death-traps (not to mention passe), get the young man a (good) skateboard...and some pads!

cyn: have another drink

The Wittiest post Race has been postponed until tomorrow....my apologies to all our faithful listeners/readers.
It seems my youngest was having a race of his own on his scooter and took a "nose" dive on the sidewalk in the middle of town. His nose is broken and his face is abraised...but he'll live. Dr said maybe McDonalds and a good video will cure what ails him. Lots of tylenol and I have to wake him up a couple of times tonight.
And just yesterday he was singing along to all the songs on CDTE on our way to register his brother at college.I think his fav. verse is "They got the Steely Dan T-Shirt"...he sings that real loud.

Jocko Homo
They tell us that we lost our tails
evolving up from little snails
I say it's all just wind in sails
Are we not men? We are DEVO!
We're pinheads now We are not whole
We're pinheads all jocko homo
Are we not men? D-E-V-O
Monkey men all in business suit
teachers and critics all dance the poot
Are we not men? D-E-V-O!
We must repeat o.k. let's go!

DE-VOID

crack that WIP
give the past the slip
step on a crack
break your momma's back
when a problem comes along
you must WIP it
before the cream sits out too long
you must WHIP it
when something's going wrong
you must WIP it
now WIP it
into shape
shape it up
get straight
go forward
move ahead
try to detect it
it's not too late
to WIP it
WIP it good
when a good time turns around
you must whip it
you will never live it down
unless you whip it
no one gets their way
until they WIP it
i say whip it
WIP it good

Stranger et Steviedan ... check Patricia Barber's site for there's a real nice segment ROAD NEWS about her European tour and some other things. A nice San Diego "Casbah" picture?
Not too mention her own humble self, people radiate when smiling, don't they?
Oh and Gary Willis, his site is great as well.
He puts up dog faces, so Gaucho already on his way :-)

My apologies upfront to Ole, but i really had a ball reading that Jewish Tribute Band list ... especially the last song ... Only A Fool Would Pay For That! Talk about p r i c e l e s s ...

Banyan Tree Let's Have A TrailerPark Tribute Band Bow?
G.

angel: drawing 40 between two bands in a place that holds over 300 . . . . all I can say is, ouch.

Biloxi? Our guitar player is from Lafayette, Louisana, so depending on when you saw that band, Clas, it might have been him!

Creed: True story -- in November 1998, I went to see this band at the Sunrise Ampitheater near Ft. Lauderdale. Human Clay had not been released. They played a "new song" that Scott Stapp said he had just written about his new born. I listened to the song and told my wife on the spot "this is like Journey, this has Top 10 written all over it." Now, I will confess that I absolutely loved the song (by now, you know it was "Arms Wide Open") -- I thought it was sweet, very heartfelt and best of all, completely honest. Flash forward nearly 3 years later -- if I never hear that song again, it will be too soon. But that's not Creed's fault and its not because the song is bad -- it just got overplayed (and I'd still rather hear it than Through with Buzz). BUT I will never deny how that song moved me that first time I heard it and how much I loved it.

Cred on the rocks . . .

What'd ya say that horses name was again, Jim Mckay?
The one that tripped? But kept on going............

Why, thats Anonposter, bred and born in the great state of Confusion, Bill!

Ref ''on the Backstretch''

Then run like hell

WIP ?

Still funny though

Bad Sneakers and steviedan - I heard Wayne Krantz & his trio live at the 55 Bar last week. Apparently they play there every Thursday night. If so I wonder if they keep the energy and creativity level so high as what I heard. Live music such as this is a rare treat - freeform electric jazz...

Herm - glad to hear you're OK

Uh oh, Babylon Sister has a slight edge over Sixfourthreefiveseven coming around the backstretch turn.

OH NO, That anon-horster just tripped and lost his jockey, but wait.......(suspense is killin' ya right? ) Looks like hes getting up! Yes! They're back in the running !

Hello One And All!
Please Join The Steely Fan Band this Labor Day weekend as we head down to the Hermosa Beach Fall Festival THIS Sunday, September 2nd!
This is a great festival on the beach! You'll find us performing at the Pier Street Stage from 3-6pm..almost 3 hours of LIVE Steely Dan tunes! Make a full day at the festival and catch 'Soul sacrifice Santana tribute act performing at 11am on the same stage.
Thanks
Mr.Sticks
Steely Fan Band-A Tribute To Steely Dan
www.steelyfanband.com

Menachim=Mike Myers/as Babs Streisand come on Mike we know you're out there.

"What's left is a mild annoyance (like my posts, right you fuckin' anons?)."

hey steeeeeveeeeeee: tell your story walkin' pal.

:o)

Looks like The Truth is keeping steady on course, maybe his jockey has a game plan. Keep it low and quiet,and wait for Menachim and Miss Crabtree to tire out. Then run like hell and over take them at the clubhouse turn.

Still no sign of the rest of the field.

Hi Clas - thanks for the reply. I am sorry for getting a little hot under the collar over that. The fact is that I am having fun playing Steely Dan music (my favorite music) in public, and I just see nothing wrong with that.

A gum problem is a dental problem. It's the fleshy part above the teeth - it's what holds the teeth in your mouth. My stitches havn't dissolved yet, but the pain is gone. What's left is a mild annoyance (like my posts, right you fuckin' anons?). I am sure that W1P liked to hear about the band in Biloxi playing Pink Floyd better than the original Pink Floyd.

And finally Clas, you are right, after a while those long jazz solos can get a bit boring, unless it is always the likes of Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, etc, musicians who are beyond phenominal, so I do understand your point of view on this now.

Be well, see you here real soon. I retract my nasty comment about chords. If you need help, I will still try to assist you.

Steviedan - I for one always want to know when and where you are playing even if I never get to your part of the country. And if it is not Steely Dan related it doesn't matter. You and I have built-in Steely Dan threads - namely our names. Let us all know what's going on musically with you.

On the Roxy Music topic - I again wanted to let Tones (I think it was Tones) who gave the great review of Roxy Music. I was at Best Buys yesterday and came across a DVD of Bryan Ferry in Concert Live In Paris. I believe it was the concert that Duncan said was a groaner. I bought it, watched it, and liked it for 2 reasons: 1. It was interesting to see how one of the greats of progressive rock approaches jazz music, and 2. the cabaret renditions of Roxy Music songs like Love Is The Drug, and Avalon were also great to watch.

Finally, the guy who posted those Jewish versions of the Steely Dan songs was absolutely hysterical. In fact, I laughed so hard that I got totally ferclempted. Now it's all ferblungent, and isn't that facocked ?!? Oy vey as mere !!

Stevalah Dan

Menachim: Broke out of the gate early, and is, so far, in the lead. With Miss Crabtree(the lovely bay filly) closing in by 4 lenths.

The fog is very thick so we can't see the rest of the field yet.

Anyone for a Mint Jewlip or a Long Island Ice Tea?

angel, and everyone else: Thanks for your concern. I'm okay, and so are just about everyone else up here. The fire for a long while was probably no more than a half a mile or so from my house. It was hard to be exact since it was just on the other side of a ridge that is only a couple of blocks away. But, the nearness of the thick black smoke, and the fact that all of the fire department helicopters and scout planes were pretty much circling directly over head gave us a pretty good idea of the fire's proximity. Then, seeminly out of nowhere, a fire started on the slope of a canyon behind some homes in the tract directly behind ours. Sadly, police and firemen believe it to be arson, since there were some kids reportedly seen to be running from the area shortly before this new, and unrelated, fire began. The neighborhood did take on a surreal quality for a while: as I said, there were the low flying aircraft, then all the smoke, combined with the heat and the time of day, (particularly between 1 and 3 PM), the sky turned orange-brown. Bits of ash and ember, were falling all over, in addition to the wayward drops of water that were being applied to the fire. Many people on my block went into a panic, especially when the smaller, yet still dangerous, canyon fire began on the other side of us. All of our attention had been focused on the smoke over the ridge, then all of a sudden, there was fire and even more smoke two blocks in the other direction. A lot of people grabbed their kids, pets, and as many personal belongings as they could, and got the hell out of there. I pretty much stood around outside with some neighbors waiting to see if it seemed to get "out of control" before we made our move. That may sound insane to some, but there was an odd sense of calm among some of us ~ the fire department was there and working there frigging asses off to contain this thing, and as nerve racking as it was at times, it never felt like armeggedon. In fact, most of us were cracking jokes trying to make each other laugh, which may have helped develop some of the calm. My next door neighbor totally freaked out. I haven't seen her since then, but I bet she's still shaking.
The town itself was a complete mess ~ the freeway was closed on the north end of town, so anyone and everyone heading in that direction was forced to pull off and either sit and wait, or turn around and drive back south. Most decided to wait, and, of course, we chose that night to go out and get Chinese food. I mean, afterall, it would have seemed rather rude to light the barbeque.
Everything is okay now. My understanding is that the only loss was a cabin in the hills. My thanks and admiration goes out to all of the firefighters who worked so damn hard to make sure that nothing else was lost or damaged.
I have to run out now, but I'll be back on later to relate anything more I can think of.

Later,

Herm

And you guys are just frustrated individuals all over.

Clas....Frustrated musician? Boy, no wonder you and z get along so well. You both have aÊlot in common.

Clas- Thank you! The truth finally comes out. A "frustrated musician". I always knew that was one of your big problems.

Keep spilling your guts!

OH, Menachim....That was SO funny!!!!!! Am making a copy for friend to take to the temple, they will just love it!!!! Of course will have to add the real titles to the songs so they'll get it. Keep em coming, brother!!!!

Can you get me a good deal on a diamond?

Re: The two things clASS hates most in life:
1) Steely Dan cover bands
2) Jews

Well hi and howdy Mr.Clas....you're REALLY gonna like me!

My name is Menachim Fagen and I am the lead singer for:

Cantor Buy A Thrill: The Jewish Steely Dan Tribute Band!

We are not your run o' the mill cover band....oh no. We are as interpretative as they come lending a decidedly Jewish (and IMHO, improved) sound and lyric to the original recordings. Our current song list includes:

Barmitzatva
Nose Darling
Show Biz Yids
Bagel Logic
My Dreidel
Do It Again Already
Moil of the Quarter
Doctor Ju
Rikki, I Want That You ShouldnÕt Lose That Number
Hymietown
Turn That Passover Again
(Rabb)i Got The News
Hey 18.95
The Caves Of Altamatza
Shalom At Last
Only A Fool Would Pay That!

i am currently promoting seminars espousing my views on self promotional posting on the gb. are you satisfied with your current level of exposure on the gb ? with my program, you will learn to totally maximize the advertising potential of the vast billboard that is the sd web community. earn big $$$ out of your home in your spare time. unlimited possibilities ! artificial paradise $$$!!$$$

but seriously, seating is limited... no really, personally i don't have a problem with our tributeers informing us of their activities. it's always irrelevant to me because it's never in my area, but they ARE promoting the MUSIC of sd and in that, sd festification. for that matter, i really enjoy hearing what jdub is up to musically or otherwise (that's more like it, jay), z, gina, clas, fretless, ygk, floridave, howard, stevee, lisa g, w1p, all of our players. hell, i'll mention a gig if there is some relevance to sd or just a funny anecdote. maybe it's just a question of sporadic overkill or level of humility, but i would vote to include it. we all know how to skim...

that said, dr. mu as much as i loathe spec-sports and discussions thereof even worse, those demon deacon predictions were FUNNY AS HELL. laugh-out-loud funny as HAY-ELL.

wormy, have you listened to the svega yet ? return to the methenyesque acoustic qualities of the first record ? gots to hear this !

steviedan album of the week (tm):

charlie haden/egberto gismonti - "in montreal"

ecm records is attempting to hyjack ALL my money.

mc, with you on "oh brother", brother.

w1p, ssshhhhhh... i can take some creed. not that "arms wide open" song, though. there goes stevie's cred, too. are we having a sale ? creed for the price of cred ?

Clas? What is prominence???

Angel, hi, what is Ógum problemÓ?

dr Mu - yeah, that's pretty much what I am saying, why not creat your OWN stuff?

---

Stevedan Brother - first; I AM keeping Israel-Palestina out of this discussion, I just made the mistake responding to an anonymous fuckhead who thinks critizing Israel is the same as being an antisemite.

2. I am perfectly cool with you and others playing Steely Dan music, maybe I've been a little too hard on the issue these years I've been on the GBook. But for me Steely Dan is so way special, it's like starting a Mike mc Donald or Bruce Hornsby cover band. Listening to it would always make me compare it to the original music.

2. BUT, having a good time, drink and dance and laugh and meet cool people while a Steely Dan cover band is playing, well, that's probably fun.

3. I am 48 years old now and my days as a bandplayer is over, I never ÓmadeÓ it, I had a hard time to accept that 10 years ago. Today; I am perfectly happy with recording a couple of songs every year or so, just for the fun of it. As you, I am running my own biz, and that keeps me pretty busy. Worrying about money for example.

4. And jazz? Maybe, in 40-50 years or so, The Real Book will include a bunch of Steely Dan music.

(And I am doing my best to avoid the jazz-scene, mainly because I have a handful of friends playing jazz, and I have been sitting on jazzclubs, out of pure politness, listening to endless sax-solos, intricate pianosolos and ÓbrilliantÓ but incomprehensible bass-solos, for hours.)

AND hey, there's no such thing as a prominent Guestbooker, just short moments of prominence.

So, be cool man,

C

PS/ And you US-musicians are so fucking good, I remember a night in Biloxi, listening to a band playing Pink Floyds ÓAnother Brick in the WallÓ better than Pink Floyd.

Good Morning everybody

Some great & funny posts over the weekend

Clas back on form?

Big shouts to all Linda & I met in chat @ the weekend, sorry about the initial confusion on Linda's part.

Funniest SD moment of the weekend Linda asking Deacon if he ever gets blue.

She hadn't realised that it was a Steely Dan chat room & had only heard of the group & NOT the song.

''Still a bit of work to do there''

Deacon hope your head was OK on Sunday morning.

Still busy @ work but reading all posts now & again.

Strange to see the American posts on Roxy Music.

Brian Ferry just about killed all interest in himself & RM after his shambolic & self-indulgent spot at Live Aid 1995.

The band & his career never fully got over that here & he's spent the last 15yrs in total obscurity just about.

Last year he was playing small venue's half-empty crooning Cole Porter stuff.

Still I supposed it paid some bills. The last time he was in the papers here was when the jet he was on was hi-jacked.

The picture of him looking scared shitless as the trolley dollies wrestled the nutter to the ground was a real treat.

Use sunscreen
Duncan

W1P: What does "they drew about 40 in the aggregate" mean? They did not do well? splain, please.

Herm: Waiting for your post. You ok?

For any who are interested in this weekend's event/show.
www.fiestahermosa.com Is that short enough, Mu? :-)

What totally amazes me is that even when Steely Dan was basically forced out on the road in those early days, they did not just go out and play the hits. They really made something special. Jamming, different arrangments, new songs, parts of songs etc. All this, in spite of the fact that Donald was scared to death to perform.

Good evening all....

Is coming back to you....

to quote the immortal Foghorn Leghorn: That's a *joke*, son!!

Sheeesh! Yeah, I'd stay anonymous (that's another joke, son [backslap])...

;)~

Hey JW, that's pretty cool...back to work...

Dr.Mu made a mistake last year once but he called it symbolic, parsed his words and said he was right afterall.

No vacation for me, this time around.
Back to the Ramones site.

I did not insult you or your post, so no need to get on your high horse about it. As a matter of fact, I did commend you on your sense of humour.Anyone who lives in the mid-atlantic states knows what the hell a terrapin is. By the way, you seemed to have forgotten to mention that they are also an endangered species in your little lecture. They gained that status by being delectable in soup. And my mention of showing it to some college kids, who, by the way are attending more than a few of the schools you mentioned, They would more than welcome your sense of humour.And I did read your stats wrong...but no need to insult ones intelligence over it. Honest mistake, have you ever made one of those?

ummmmmm: Two words - NCAA Semifinals

Mu- Duke is puke, Wake is fake, the team I hate is N.C. state!

Maryland

Let's translate this quote for University of Marlyand at College Park graduates:

"The Twerps lay low for a 37-10 shelling of Wake"

1) This means that the Terrapins won the game over the Wake (as in funereal) Forest Demon Deacons (heck, the school doesn't even exist in the town of Wake Forest anymore, except for the Divinity School). If we take the second multi-digit number and subtract from the first, we arrive at +27. Am I going too fast?

2) shelling - a Terrapin is a tortoise - get it?

3) lay low - a Terrapins is a tortoise - they crawl on their belly like a reptile - because...they ARE a reptile...

Have another keg.

Let's translate this quote for University of Marlyand at College Park graduates:

"The Twerps lay low for a 37-10 shelling of Wake"

1) This means that the Terrapins won the game over the Wake (as in funereal) Forest Demon Deacons (heck, the school doesn't even exist in the town of Wake Forest anymore, except for the Divinity School). If we take the second multi-digit number and subtract from the first, we arrive at +27. Am I going too fast?

2) shelling - a Terrapin is a tortoise - get it?

3) lay low - a Terrapins is a tortoise - they crawl on their belly like a reptile - because...they ARE a reptile...

Have another keg.

You must know a lot of college kids as the janitor, yes.

BTW, Mu, That was a great posting on your part, very funny! I'm showing it to all the college kids, they'll get a kick out of it.

Twerps still rule!

Twerp this! Would you like a napkin to wipe that egg offa your face when the time comes? Or would you prefer crow grilled to perfection?

Terps rule!

Wale Forest Deacon Blues Football Schedule and predictions:

Sat Sep 1 01 atæ East Carolina 7:00 pm ET æ
Pirates shake their booty to a 31-3 pillaging pf the Deacons.

æSat Sep 8 01 æ Appalachian St 12:00 pm ET æ
The Boonies (Mountaineers) 'shine in 24-20 alcohol-fest.

æSat Sep 15 01 æ Northern Ill 12:00 pm ET
The Meerkats (hell, I don't know) cage our folles in a 27-12 clawing. æ

æSat Sep 22 01 æ Maryland 12:00 pm ET æ
The Twerps lay low for a 37-10 shelling of Wake.

æSat Sep 29 01 atæ Florida St 7:00 pm ET
The Semis (new semi-PC name) roll over the Deacons 59-7. æ

æSat Oct 6 01 æ North Carolina St 12:00 pm ET
The Six-Pack howl in a 42-14 laugher. æ

æSat Oct 13 01 atæ Duke 12:00 pm ET æ
Everybody's Blue in a 3-3 snorefest tie.

æSat Oct 27 01 æ Clemson 12:00 pm ET æ
Tigers are dumb, but they're mean in a 51-17 shredding

æSat Nov 3 01 atæ Virginia 12:00 pm ET
Waaahooooooo! 31-3 æ

æSat Nov 10 01 atæ North Carolina 12:00 pm ET
Carolina beats the tar outta the Deacons: 35-10.æ

æSat Nov 17 01 æ Georgia Tech 12:00 pm ET æ
Wake stung in the finale: 45-20

I'll play just what I feel...

Hey Jambi, hand me a mango. Then we'll discuss just how prominent clas's nose is.

Its the nose on your face, period,period,period= dot,dot,dot and dot.

BTW,,,,,comma,comma,comma Seen Pee Wee lately?

Will someone let the wind out of the bag.............

"In my earlier post to you Clas, I did not mean to start a huge banter-fest, but I keep forgetting that this is what happens here quite frequently. I just want to be certain that I understand exactly what you are saying, since you are a prominent member of this guest book."

Steveeeeeeee: this is what happens because YOU provoke it.

:o)

Wake me when you're done, will ya?

Clas - I am OK with all of this stuff. If you don't like to see live musicians rehash the music of other bands, I guess that I can accept that. My question about this to you is, in the case of live Jazz music, most of traditional Jazz is a rehashing of the old Jazz standards. Do you also feel that this kind of live music is in that same "cover band" bag? If so, you do not have the hang of what Jazz and Jazz Improvisation has to offer. And you don't have to. Pursue whatever you want, with or without your faithful canine companion.

I interpreted what you said as being beyond this, something to the effect that we cover band musicians are just chasing the dollar copying others and why can't we create our own music?

Even in the context of covering other musician's material, every time I take a solo, it is new uncharted territory. I never play a song the same way twice, within the framework of the song there are always new nuances to explore. This is the essence of improvisational music. And it is not relegated only to Jazz.

Have you ever seen the Grateful Dead play? You might not like their music, but if you have never seen them play live then you could never know what they were all about. The late Bay Area promoter Bill Graham once said of the Dead: "They are not the best at what they do, they are the only ones who do what they do." This comment speaks directly at the spontaneous improvisational style that defined the Dead at their shows, and they played tons of cover tunes. Tons of them. And it was great. Just like seeing Stanley Jordan or someone like that playing an old Jazz standard. Do you follow the train of thought that I am leaving for you here? I hope so.

We do hope for applause because it means that we have entertained some people who have paid for the pleasure of having live music played for them. And the fact that they got themselves out of the house for the evening and decided to spend it watching us is an honor that we do not take lightly. Sure we get paid by the club or bar management, but if the crowd isn't enjoying themselves watching us play, then we have let everybody down. That is failure. We work hard to give the crowd what they want so that they and we will have an enjoyable evening. That is what it's all about.

I run my own successful business, I do occasional studio work on various peoples demo's which are all original songs, and I have a lot of other interests outside of Steely Dan. Why is it so hard for you to understand what the Doctor Wu band, The Steely Damned band and The Steely Fan band get out of pursuing this?

In my earlier post to you Clas, I did not mean to start a huge banter-fest, but I keep forgetting that this is what happens here quite frequently. I just want to be certain that I understand exactly what you are saying, since you are a prominent member of this guest book.

I would greatly appreciate your thoughtful reply about this. And lets keep Israel and Jews out of it, OK?

Angel - I am feeling much better and am awaiting further treatments. Yuck. Also, I have completed my chord chart for Wetside Story. I will email you with details that I have about the upcoming SFB gig at the Hermosa Beach Fall Festival this Sunday, September 2 from 3 PM to 6 PM. (Oh no !!! Not another SFB plug !?!)

Steveedan

I hear Roberta is a 3-input woman!

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The two things clASS hates most in life:
1) Steely Dan cover bands
2) Jews

that can't be the REAL Chips - Chips is on vacation.

Imposter???

Chips: Yeah, that's true!!...except, of course, I have NO financial stake. Pretzel Logic: we must pay to disseminate knowledge in publication - no royalities. Free reprints are expected, and anything we write is photocopied out the wazoo. I'm happy with it though, as we do unto others...

Very busy, very little time for anything but a few shouts. Asbury/Barracuda drew about 40 in the aggregate -- disappointing, the Bruce guy is very good and is playing in Reno this weekend.

I hate Through with Buzz (not really, but it is my least fav Dan cut). There are many songs by Creed that I absolutely love -- especially Torn and My Own Prison. What's funny is that they are hated by many metal heads and obviously by the Dan crowd. Hey, I like lots of "popcorn" like AM Gold and Creed. I guess my musical credibility is shot.

Oh, and I wasn't confused about the W1Stupid references/posts. I knew they weren't directed to me.

How about those long, drawn-out scientific presentations? Are those alright? Just kidding. Good point Mu. Care to expound?

Ramones. Did someone say the Ramones?

I think what Clas is saying is that if he can play as well as a cover band, why pay the cover? If I could lick my own balls, I'd never leave the house...

I think the cover bands certainly provide a service. And the majority of those that post upcoming events also contribute to other Dan-related material. But without any disrespect intended, I think it's gotten to the point that the "advertisement" of cover dates and pre-date color commentary has been excessive on the blue(especially) and yellow boards. Fan reaction is another matter and encouraged, thumbs up or down. I would *suggest* simply posting a schedule short and sweet, and that's it. Perhaps one of the 18 Guestbooks could serve that purpose.

One could argue that there's not much going on 'round here besides guessing what year the Next One will be out, and whether Fagen's 3rd solo effort will be released following or prior to the next Dan release (I'm betting on after as the AOL-Time-Warner-Ted Turner geeks are salivating following Grammy night), or whether Wetside Story will actually be pressed on the the Next One...

Clas knows the score on Judea - he's just cheering for the Oakland/LA Raiders...

Sure, lets see, dot,dot,dot,That why the Mosque is built over and on top of the Temple. Because the Palestinians were there first.If in fact it is "their" land, Why didn't they change the names? ie: Palisum, TeleArafat, Telem-i'm-fat?

Fasten your seatbelts, its going to be a bumpy ride!

Aussie: You never told me you spent time living in Los Angeles?
Were you out here when D & W lived in L.A.?

Herm: I forgot you live up that way. How close did it get to you? Frightening stuff, fire. I have had them come close to my houses, 2 times in my years of living here.

Clas: I think Steveedan was having a bad day, with that gum problem and all.

Blaise: No amen corner for me this morning. Can't get into it. Hmmmm

Good day all....

Gospel time these days....

This is your Capt. speaking - I'd like my piza with Israel leaving the Palestinian land they're occupying.

C

How would you like your pizza? With a suicide bomber or a molotov cocktail on it?

Singing to a sleeping dog? Now, thats sad, really sad. Even your own dog won't give you the attention you crave. At least Steveedan has a REAL live audience...........dot,dot,dot,(3 dots). And I bet they applaud too.

Your country's not the problem, you are!

J Dubz: Very nice to see you back dude. And I love the colour on the skate scene..as I've shared with you in the past I was a former DogTown skates rider and your pics and stories take me back to those good old days....superb that an old dog teaching the young ones a trick or two AND an old dog learning new tricks!!
Also....very interested in what the Red Hot Chili Peppers are doing. Their latest effort, "Californication", IMHO, was musically superb (Get on Top is the perfect track for pool shredding...)Cool that you're running into them in the recording studio.

Your new group sounds intriguing as well...Zappa plus. You know you can always send a shiny circular disc my way...and get paid for it....

Be well, and keep shredding!

Aus

Caribe Cannibal Air:

ÓBefore clas gets to come and see you play, stevee, we're taking him for pizza in Televiv and Jeruselum.Ó

Televiv and Jeruselum?

Gina - thanks, ÓW1stupidÓ it was, yes.

SteveDan - christ man, slow down, you're saying; ÓAs for not caring for Steely Dan coverbands ... this is not something that I take personally at all since I play in the Seely Fan Band for fun (and a little bit of pocket cash) along with lots of LA studio work and the like (which is also for fun and a little bit of pocket cash).Ó

And then you continue to ramble and scream about my opinion, and my lack of chord-progression-skills. How is YOUR Monday going buddy?

I'd love to sit and play Steely Dan-songs for an enthusiastic audience (in fact I do, my but my audience is a sleeping dog who usually goes for the bedroom the tird time I play along with ÓPegÓ), but I don't have any interest of going to see one of those cover-bands.

(or maybe yes, for meeting people like you and other regulars, not for the music)

That's no contradiction. ÓPlayÓ is fun, ÓListenÓ can be damn hard.

ÓMany people who do return to see us time and time again have commented that they like the raw intensity and the close-to-the-original treatments that we give them, because the current original Steely Dan have changed all of their arrangements.Ó

Well, good for you then.

And I can't understand how little me, this stupid moron from an underrated country, can get you, Pete Fogel, BobLovesBob, so upset. What's the matter with you guys? Are you deep down ashamed for what you're doing?

Don't be.

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Mu - thanx - I guessed it had something to do with the stereotyped image of that kind of Óstupid face, the glasses and the gunÓ-character.

JW Malibu - goshshshsh, how many hours per 24-hours do YOU have? It's good to hear from you.

OC - what? Chapter what??? Not in my book.

Original Lester - can't we say I use those chords as a TRIBUTE to you?

Fretless - hi! That sounds great, that C/F. Cool, can I use that? As a tribute to you and your family?

C

Well that's pretty much the extent of the riffage, ole. It doesn't apply to the question as to where he got those shoes, for example. He (whoever wrote the words) could have been reading it at the time as it was fashionable to do so - it was before the advent of cable TV and cable modems, people still read philosophy's major works or at least planned to find the time - and it somehow reflected in his/their songwriting. The philosopher's town had just been invaded by the French troops and all Hegel could feel upon meeting the man in charge was this admiration instead of the hatred one would assume he would have felt at the time. There's a famous passage from his correspondance to a friend illustrating this:
"I saw the Emperor -- that World Soul -- riding out to reconnoiter the city; it is truly a wonderful sensation to see such an individual, concentrated here on a single point, astride a single horse, yet reaching across the world and ruling it..."
He looks so fine, that individual (lonely still and the emphasis on "single", repeated in the text)...
I don't know. It's a personal thing, I guess but the reference just speaks to me. I see it as coming into play, regardless of the authors initial intentions.

LESSONS IN SURVIVAL, Chapter XVI:

There are no such things as friends, only short moments of friendship.

(A famous man said that, who?)

C

Clas, you idiot! It's Chapter XVII!!

Your Friend,

OC

oleander ~ (about the greeting on your web site), that was very nice of you! Thanks, I missed you, too.

Tomorrow, I will tell you about the frightening wildfires just a mile or so from my doorstep today. Glad that's over. Now, I must go to sleep.

Later,

Herm

JDubs....sounds like you're staying busy....looking forward to seeing some of that new artwork and hearing some of the various musical projects in the near future....keep me informed please.

Where's Edd ? ? ? my fowl friend/bird buddy seems to be mighty scarce these days.

been wearing out the "O Brother, Where Art Thou" soundtrack around here lately....great music! great movie too....gotta love the Coen Brothers.

Check it out:

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Hi Angel -

You are not mistaken. It is Your Gold Teeth II, but it is without the verse and chorus sections of the song. In the early days of the Dan, when they toured they liked to play jams that had no vocal parts and just go around and around on them until they had enough. I believe they were filling up their sets to make them a bit longer.

I have an old vinyl LP bootleg called Rotoscope Down, A Peek Behind the Curtain, which was also from the 1974 tour, and that song is on there as well. It took them 2 albums to get a verse and chorus section for the jam that ultimately became my favorite Steely Dan song of all time - Your Gold Teeth II.

Gums are doing better. Dizzy from Vicodan ES

Stevee(whee!)dan

Hot day in L.A. and fire burning to the north....

Jim #: I am so jealous. Wormtom and the Big Easy twice in 1 year....

Ole: Caught the Hermit heading on your website. Funny.
How could we possibly jinx/delay the release of their next album. They seem to do that just fine on their own.

Chips: Hey you missed Marky Ramone at Paladino's last Friday evening. It says he played all the Ramone's hits.

W1P: Speaking of Paladino's, we missed Asbury Park and Baracuda last weekend. I really wonder about the crowd for that. :-)

J Dubs: I had the Weekly with me at work and I had read about 2 pages of the Dogtown article when I saw your post. So I finished it on the train this evening. Fascinating stuff. You put all those young kids to shame, btw.
Any chance of getting to see your band perform at some point?

Blaise: Was that you being a bad boy today? Or was I reading the smiley face wrong.

Dannish thought for the day. Why does the untitled instrumental from the 74 tour sound so much better then YGT II? I am really getting into that version, crappy audio quality and all. That is one thing they seem to have always done, played something new or different on each tour. They never seen to rest of their laurels. Another reason I like them.

Night all....

and see how they roll....

Fretless--You're so ani! HA! I thought it was all of the above!

Herm--please don't give it a second thought. I'm all grins at your gracious demurral of my professional wares. And now I know not to visit the cave on Mondays.

JW--So it's really you!! I am in awe. And so glad you're dynamo humming on. My kids think you're the bomb too.

tones, Aus--you guys should start a fucking MAGAZINE. Great color.

Blaise--For GOSH SAKES, man! I call you professeur with unfeigned respect and seriousness. Don't get snippy with me just because I am a complete illiterate in philosophy, sense impeccable riffage on "Pretzel Logic," and want to hear you wail! And no, my comment on guestbooks was NOT a dis on yours. Yours is fun, too, and has its own flava; I just can't keep up with all of them. I was also jiving on my own extremely low-tech page. I wouldn't know how to run a gb if it had the keys in the ignition.

LOL....but seriously though. Gina, sometimes I do wonder what the fuck it is you're talking about.

bowing to the freakin' boodah.

:o)

Gina-- Bow THIS!

Not bad. Not bad at all!
Hats off! ( and a bird drops his digested lunch right on the label that will now stick for sure )

Today, I walked dreamily past the roads, which cross and turn on each other so slyly. I wondered, how do those roads feel about being so twisted in the space that is fine and a meadow indeed on top of that. Haha! So then, I questioned my fruit basket goodies- taking an inventory of these roads, as well as the cyber pathways I have traveled down so many days previous to the raintime. I saw my load was a good one and that the things I had chosen were going to make a fine and sweet glaze for the charmers. Hehe! I also remembered the bad days too; but how ever can you take the salad without a little vinegar? Some days are green and others are more like a sweet potato surprise cake - beige and dense with the humidity and frosty innuendos. I will take them all on my plate, along with some cucumber garlic relish and a smile, and kiss the sky with my submarine lipgloss fantasticks!

Imitation swirling whirly gig bodacious bow,
(FauxGina)

Gonna sweep the kitchen some, so pardonnez moi?
Steveedan, i believe someone is posting as W1=stupid and that the one Clas was replying, he didn't mean W1=Pink? Unless they are one and the same? But all of this is confusing anyways, so :-)
Kind of feels like a convention in Geneve and different senses of esteem, values, pride and humour (!).
Isn't Clas for those who do, the easiest target to insult?
And most gratifying?
To whom, i may add ...

Oh these cybercostumes we fit to sizes that fit all and then throw them in the arena of "unsuspecting" minds ...
Not entirely my words, or my thoughts.
I merely pass the salt here!

JDubzzz! Yours isn't just shoptalk, it's MALLtalk. I am on the verge of fooling around with a 4track recorder and to me that is luxury, haha!
Sounds promising and a lot of fun, really nice to learn about what it is you're involved in these days!
Thanks for the NICE wave here, i know angel and i share a similar smile for it :-)

Banyan Tree Whatever's Up Your Alley Bow,
G.

ps Tonez .. Caldera on tape soon .. got to have snailmailaddress!

Before clas gets to come and see you play, stevee, we're taking him for pizza in Televiv and Jeruselum. Then for a dip in the waters off the coast of Florida.

Coffee, Tea or Arsenic, clas-hole?

StAl/Steviedan/Clas/Roy/Gina/DrMu/Angel ~ thanks for the welcome back!

I've been busy as a one-armed wallpaper hanger this summer!

I've formed a new band (two guitarists/bassist/drummer & me on keys/winds), all-original stuff with a heavy dose of Zappa-esque satire and lots of "room to move" with extended instrumental sections. We're still woodshedding right now, practicing at a great little studio in Hollywood...we keep running into the Red Hot Chili Peppers & the Go-Gos; they use the "big" room there to rehearse. We're called Krawney Rypz, after an obscure "Mystery Science Theater 3K" reference...

Being the relentless equipment junkie that I am, I added two new pieces to my studio over the summer:

Korg Karma ~ VERY cool new workstation from Korg...the soundset is the same as the Triton (INCREDIBLE strings!), coupled with the KARMA function, which has been called an "arpeggiator on steriods" and created a huge buzz at this year's NAMM show. Nothing short of amazing, the harp glissandos ALONE are worth the price! I've been writing a lot of ambient stuff with it for my current solo project. Here's what Keyboard Magazine had to say about it:

http://www.keyboardonline.com/demos/korgkarma/index.shtml

Yamaha VL-70m ~ Yamaha's physical-modeling synth. Instead of building sounds from wavetables or oscillators, this synth physically models sounds. It's monophonic, but that one note is a motherfucker! I've been playing a Yamaha WX-11 (kinda' like a new-fangled Lyricon, Tom Scott is a fellow WX devotee) with a MIDI convertor, driving other synths...but the expressiveness left something to be desired. Not so with the VL-70m, though...it's got a direct WX in, so there's no MIDI conversion slowing the data down...the net result is a HIGHLY expressive wind synth coupled with a physically-modeled sound that evolves over time...you can actually hear (on a clarinet patch, for example) the reed begin to vibrate and the wind travelling through the bore!

http://www.yamaha.com/cgi-win/webcgi.exe/DsplyModel/?gRTS00005VL70-M

On the "art front" ~ I've been working with a friend on an indy-TV project called "Jake's Wild Trip" ~ I'm doing the art direction, CGI modeling for matte-shots and animations (in Bryce 5), and also scoring it (the Karma's being put to GOOD use there...) The star of the show is Jimi Hendrix's younger brother, Leon Hendrix ~ he plays the psychedelic super-hero. Leon's a singer/songwriter/keyboardist, and will be contributing a number of songs to the show; I've been having a gas producing these songs with Leon as well. Through the same circle of friends, I had the chance to sit in with Experience bassist (now playing guitar) Noel Redding...what an incredible player!

Not a whole lot to write home about in terms of waves in Southern California this summer, but I've been hitting the surf whenever the swell picks up. We've had a resurgence of public skateparks being opened in SoCal, my personal new favorite is located in Bell Gardens ~ a short 19 miles from my house...this old dawg had been learning some new tricks! I love it when the young skate-rats ask me how old I am, and when I tell the pushin' 46, they say, "you're older than my DAD!" Here's the park:

http://concretedisciples.com/cd_skate/socal/bellgardens/bellgardens.html

Speaking of all things skateboarding, my friend Stacey Peralta kicked ass up at the Sundance Film Festival this spring, winning Best Director/Documentary and Audience Award for his film chronicling the genesis of modern pool/vert skateboarding ~ "Dogtown and Z-Boys: A Film About the Birth of the Now" ~ narrated by Dogtown homey Sean Penn. There's a great cover article in this week's LA Weekly called "The Ghosts of Dogtown" ~ here's a link to the article:

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/01/40/cover-donnelly.shtml

:)~

If I'm allowed to land nowhere near where you're playing, of course.

I'll bring my own parachute. I don't mind.

If I agree with Clas, do I get his plane tickets?

hmmm...this should be very interesting!

x

:0)

Goodmorning all --

A case of aces (or should that be asses?)

To Clas, oh Clas, the dude who just can't seem to help but open his mouth and insert both feet (since it seems that they will fit ...)

Silly silly Dude. You wrote: "W1stupid - who said this was the first time I went to Paris? And did I say I HATE Steely Dan-coverbands? I just don't care much for them, especially when Steely Dan is still around.

My point has been: why make a career/living on somebody elses work/music? I'm wholely with Beckers word at Berklee: ÓStick to your own stuff, that's the only shortcut.Ó "

Let's take a moment here to reflect on this babylon brother. I doubt very highly that W1P would be commenting about your European trips. I think you got the wrong poster.

As for not caring for Steely Dan coverbands ... this is not something that I take personally at all since I play in the Seely Fan Band for fun (and a little bit of pocket cash) along with lots of LA studio work and the like (which is also for fun and a little bit of pocket cash).

The original Steely Dan (if that term even makes any sense) has been around since the early 1970's. But they didn't tour for 17 years, and they are not around all that much. A lot of the people who consistantly come to see the SFB play in Southern California (and of course, the #1 SD tribute band in the world, The Steely Damned) come because they have more access to this great music being performed live, and all three bands - Doctor Wu, The Steely Damned and the SFB play the songs as close to the original recordings as is humanly possible.

Many people who do return to see us time and time again have commented that they like the raw intensity and the close-to-the-original treatments that we give them, because the current original Steely Dan have changed all of their arrangements.

As for me, I like the newer, Jazzier arrangements, but our audiences want to hear the music sound more like the original albums, so who are we to dissapoint them?

Finally Clas, I have more than cordually invited you to come and see us play. This is the first time that I learned that you have very little interest in Steely Dan cover bands. What if we were to charter you a private jet to come and see all three of our bands play? Don't hold your breath, unless, of course it is after you jump parachute-less out of said jet.

And furthermore, on a personal level, I see no reason to assist you on chord discussions after this minor insult that you have floated across the pond in the direction of the SD cover band society. Besides, you stubbornly cling to your grossly incorrect beliefs about how these Steely Dan chords are voiced and how the chord progressions go.

Continue to ask Howard your chord questions, at least, you haven't insulted him or his intelligence yet.

In other words, how the fuck is your Monday going Clas ??

Alright, through with Clas, clear your minds ...

To Tones - and the Roxy Music review - Yes !!! That was a great review you posted here. I saw them play back in (I guess it was in) 1988 and they were fantastic. It was right after Brian Ferry's Bette Noire CD came out. Reading your review of this years concert, transported me back to the concert that I saw so long ago. I thank you for the sentimental journey down the Strand-sky. Thank you.

... Done up loose for dealing ...

Steveedan

Clas- yeah- Eb6-5 is almost the same as D7, with the root changing. That's why I came up with the D9 to add the 9th for a little more flavor. When your new song takes the world by storm, my people will notify your people of our roylaty demands. And I do now realize that a maj11 is not necessarily the same as a maj7sus4, although very close- the difference would be the additional 9th you get in the 11th chord. Great discussion.

OL

Tones: awesome review of Roxy music. Thank you.

Aus

JW, Oleander: Welcome back in force...

Clas: The the traditional view of the Delta cop as a porky, inbred, racist, somewhat sadistic jackals whoe sentences began with "Bwwooooaaaah" (Boy) or "Son" was probably true until not so long ago...

These days, they're mostly into setting speed traps on I-10 or I-55.

It's much worse to cross a N'awlins cop, unless you offer him some beer, blow, prostitute, or cajun food first

Original Lester: Negative Girl is up on the top four for me. Sits with JOS, AG, and WOH. Love the vibes.

Ole: You possible lucky one. If I am traveling at all that week in October, it will be to Washington, DC on business. No Damned for me. Thanks for the Ben Folds update. Now I understand.

Blaise: All knowing one. I bow to your superior knowledge. (Have I groveled enough?) Hegel, please.

Jim #: You are out of control with the parodies! Great one. :-)

LP: We miss you. Feels like Lent again.

Good day all....

He's lonely still....

Clas: lovely cluster-even on the tiny casio that lives under my desk. My fretless feeling [a sort of mournful buzzing] is that this is an altered Dsus, the bass doubling the fourth with an airy Hornsbyesque Chesapeake Bay scene. Okay so there's no fifth and your voicing balances the dominant 7th below but that is how the thing moves for me [picture a pelican gliding in low along the shore, purposeful and solitary]. Some starched old music teacher might demand D-resolution to some sort of Gmajor [trapped within a circle of fifths, ready to throw young Ludwig in the clink for beginning a symphony with a flatted 7th... ].

sorry. where was I?

it's a kind of altered D. So, the next chord should fit the Hornsby parallel 4th mood. Play a simple middle-C major triad... but, put a F below it for the bass. In fact, put two Fs a octave apart and gently engage the sustain pedal. Let it soar along low like that pelican. Call it "Notes for a cloudy day". sniff.
Fretless

Oh, O: no- I was going for aniso:ani and the answer was stalactite
[over and above it all]:stalagmite [downtrodden by it], which was your riff!

wow Tones

Your color on the Roxy show was incredible, so vivid and about as close as one could get outside of being there oneself! thanks Waiting for the DVD release of the tour with an tissa... pation

so I hear from Aja the Steely Dammed are playing the legendary Tipitinas in NEw Orleans October 23rd. Congrats Bob and company on landing that one, tips is a hard venue to get in to. Sounds like a dan fest brewing to me.

waiting for the latest Suzanne Vega disc to hit my mailbox, a return to her acoustic roots, out Sept 25th, but I snagged a promo copy via e-bay express

stevie - color on the JT show, I'll let a day or two pass, I'm not following Tones red hot review with my mellow worm wanderings

I just love those first 8 descending note pairs in Janie RUnaway
kind of tips one off that it's a lowly ride of desperation

wt

Well I'd love to search the Southland
for a Steely cover band
yes I think I'll tour the swamplands
just to see the Steely Damned

Well I heard they were fine
in NYC
But west of Mississippi
is where they'll be
And if we can afford it,
off to New Orleans? we'll see...
oh yeah

Original Lester - I am sorry, AGAIN! (so much GUILT!!!) It's not the same chord. I am glad you're sleeping now so I am able to arrange things in order;

D9 and Ebm6-5 is NOT the same chord, of course...

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I have a little notation-program here at work, Music Time, I notated this:

Gmaj7sus4 - D9 - Gmaj7sus4 - Ebm6-5

Sounds fucking cool. Like Mozart or one of them dudes.

---

C, An Average Run of the Mill (distracted) Professor

PS/ dr MU - a serious question; someone wrote somewhere (I don't remember) what does it mean:

ÓIf your driving thru the Mississippi Delta, don't get involved with the local enforcment.Ó

Now, if you guys can't help adding "professor" or "all knowing one" to your queries, it certainly marks a distance. It tells me you're not that interested in an answer, when all is said and done. So I act accordingly.
On the other hand, whoever wrote that "Google is Hegel" line certainly got my attention. It's a very interesting parallel drawn, one that shows understanding of the topic at hand.
Speaking of that part of Pretzel Logic, did they have Hegel in mind when they wrote that particular verse, the only one that strikes the casual observer as out of place and oddish? It's always possible. Does the theme come into play at an unconscious level, in the text itself and independantly of the writer's intentions? I believe it does. And I will go on, if need be but not this morning as it is the first day of school here and I have to drag my eldest son out of bed and prop him up. Hopefully, he won't amass too much pertinent knowledge along the way and be the object of derogatory comments too as a result. I thought just this last one was clear enough, no? It was for someone out there, evidently.
stevie - I agree that Grammy night must have had an impact on the order of priorities. Perhaps, the Fagen release is now pushed back as a result. The 2002 and 2004 timeline makes a lot of sense.
And oleander, there is nothing wrong with establishing a preference. You like the idea of Hoops having a guestbook but not your average, run of the mill fan. That much is clear from your comments and behavior so far. That's ok. It's an understandeable conservative political angle at this point. There's nothing inherently wrong with such a stance either. To each his/her own, I say.

blaise, while not concerned with claiming origination of the fagen solo soap, i was merely supposing aloud that logically, contractually, it would SEEM to fall next. i think that at this point, everything has most likely reverted to the cash-in-on-the-name mode. wea holds everyone's paper here i believe, and i think the grammys change everything in terms of release order...

clas, find out if yes is bringing the "will-play-with-any-rock-band-orchestra" (there actually are at least a couple, michael kamen leading one & maybe the royal philharmonic). a well rehearsed orchestra would be way preferable to a pick-up one. caviolin emptor...

jambi, are you the jambi from pee wee's playhouse ?

tones, we should pay you, aus & anyone else that posts concert colour that vividly.

wormy, still waitin' on jt flava's...

jay dubz, that all ya got for us ? what's been up ? herm, origles ? good to see ya boyz.

ole, danny's scrambling to get me an answer. should know tomorrow or next day.

just finished a tony williams lifetime anthology. the shit.

Original Lester - allow me to disagree on maj7sus4 is the same as a maj11. To make it a 11-chord we have to lower the F# down to F (and add a sus2 to it (A)).

C

W1stupid - who said this was the first time I went to Paris? And did I say I HATE Steely Dan-coverbands? I just don't care much for them, especially when Steely Dan is still around.

My point has been: why make a career/living on somebody elses work/music? I'm wholely with Beckers word at Berklee: ÓStick to your own stuff, that's the only shortcut.Ó

Original Lester - must try those. But isn't Ebm6-5 and D9 pretty much the same chord, depending on, of course, which note you have in the bottom, D or Eb.

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Cancer in the kidneys = Hypernefrom.

C

oleander: My sincerest apologies! I just now realized that I never said a hello to you! And you gave me a warm welcome back. Wow, am I an ass.

(No comments for anyone else. This is between me and her.)

So, belated as it my seem, here's a huge, and incredibly overdue hello to a wonderful person. And let me insist, that this in no way has anything to do with your connection to pharmacuticals. I actually have my own connection. Well, I should say that I HAD my own connection, and I will again, in about seven years. I should be fine until then. As long as I pace myself. That "one an hour" stuff is in the past. I have a new timetable for myself, and it's working out just fine. But, that's neither here not there. I'm saying hello, and right now, that's all that matters. Of course, it's been close to four hours, now. I can do it. I know I can. Must remember my mantra. Must. Try to remember...

Talkin' to myself and feelin' old,
sometimes I'd like to quit
Nothin' ever seems to fit
hanging around
nothing to do but frown
rainy days and Mondays always get me down

Alright, so it's not the greatest mantra in the world, but when your in a fix and short on cash, and the mantra guy isn't willing to lower his price on a good one, what are you gonna do?

Later,

Herm

Hello everyone -

My son and I had a fabulous Birthday vacation. How many of you can actually sing that Beatles song and have it mean something to you? In other words, how many of you have kids born on YOUR birthday? You know how it goes, don't you?

Boom-Boom Bah-Ba-Boom
Doo-doo doo-doo doo-doo doo doo Bah Bah Bah Bah ! Etc. ...

You say it's your birthday
Well it's my birthday too yeah
You say it's your birthday
We're gonna have a good time
I'm glad it's your birthday
Happy Birthday to you

(Thank you Sir McCartney.)

We had a great time and met the Craigster in San Diego at Farrell's Ice Cream Parlor in Mira Mesa just north of the "Top Gun" air field. And a great time was had by all. I was happily and unexpectedly surprised when Craigster gave me a T-Shirt from The Steely Damned. How the heck do you top that? Huh?

And thanks to all of you who wished us a happy birthday. The response was overwelming.

And a special thank you to Ballah. What a special guy.

The Steely Fan Band hits the road again. Catch us (like a flu) at the Hermosa Beach Fall Festival this Sunday September 2nd (of Labor Day Weekend) from 3 PM to 6 PM.

And now it's off the bed to close off the weekend, then to the dentist tomorrow morning for gum surgery !!! Yoweee !!!

Stevee(dad-gum-it)dan (MF gum pain for the SFB)