User: SteveeDan ... in post-gig post land | Month: 7 | Day: 31
Message: Rajah -- You are too kind !!! Playing at Hermosa Beach is always tons of fun. I want to send my gratitude to Paul and Tony from the Mighty Doctor Wu band for coming down to see us. I've said this before and I'll say it again ... it is really heartwarming to have the support of another SD tribute band who can hold their own ... with any band. I feel lucky to be included in such a great society of ardent Steely Dan lovers ...
Rajah ... thank you for taking lots and lots of photos with my camera. I am downloading them to my computer right now and will take a long look at them.
I also want to thank Shelly L. for coming to see us. Your presence really made my day. You too Norm de Plume, n'est pas?
... and having a few iced Irish coffees at Hennessy's Pub didn't hurt either. Yeah, yeah, ... a wee swallie indeed.
User: Rajah of Erase(calling SteveeDan) | Month: 7 | Day: 31
Message: Whilst we await more reviews from Borgata and NY State Fair and the promise of Gina, two-three, your intrepid Danophile left the Rajah Palace and attended the Hermosa Beach Labor Day Festival of Chicky-Boom. Pretzel Logic with our beloved SteveeDan on the 88s minus some gave the beach crowd two stunning sets. So many SD fans who knew the songs cold in attendance. The conditions for soloists were adverse. The PL horns never sounded better, horn players LOVE the outdoors. Our rhythm section, Jake and Paul were bankable assets. How small do I feel criticizing the Donald's inability to conquer the outdoors and expertly sing the material when my boy Warren couldn't win for losing because of the mix. But Warren is a great choral singer, so he had the presense of mind to switch gears and rely heavily on the verrry formibable back up lady and gentleman singing with him. Kudos. The crowd told me sonething about the demographic Our Boys command. OK, old, old, they're old. You can see the smile force its way across their mugs when they finally get that it's "PEG!" Priceless. They love FM; one of my prohibitive bugaboos. The guitarists, Mark Snarly Vincent and David Cowboy Hill, could rival Warren Haynes & young master Trucks from the current and impeccable incarnation of the Allman Bros. Classic scratcher vs. bad dude guitarists. The crowd went wild and PL broke curfew the way SD couldn't on opening night in Costa Mesa, still burned up about that.
Our goodwill ambassador, SteveeDan, was especially screwed by the mix. That boy is a keyboard wizard, he can play anything. In mi countri, we love heeem.
User: WJAZ | Month: 7 | Day: 31
Message: OLEANDER:
Did you make any attempt to convince Donald and Walter to play in a venue that would be beneficial to folks like Steviedan, myself and you? I suggest Ghost Town or Santa Land... somewherez close. Thanks for the review...
User: Aussie | Month: 7 | Day: 31
Message: Wormy: I second that emotion. By the way, I still need a good electronic mail address from you to dump some awesome pics of the Dan live this year.
Your last postte said to dump 'em here but there was no email address attached.
So glad to see the band add Lunch With Gina. Hoping they'll also amend their set list to include Pixeleen by the time we see them at the Roseland gigs. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?????????????
Off to the beach now......we'll cheque in later.
Aus
User: wormy | Month: 7 | Day: 31
Message: DON AND WALT
great to hear Lunch With Gina
absolutely great
but
with this gem comes heartbreak
for the love of God
DO NOT
REPLACE
THINGS I MISS THE MOST!!!!!!
the divorsiants in the crowd will never forgive you
and you might just lose those keys to your audi tt
your ever faithful topsoil admirer
sir worm tom
User: Beth-O-Matic | Month: 7 | Day: 31
Message: To: Walter and Donald.....I went to your Mohegan concert....superb without question/discussion. I request "West of Hollywood" to be played at Oakdale Sept 10th.
Yours Truly. Beth of Shoreline.
User: Hank Silvers | Month: 7 | Day: 31
Message: As noted elsewhere, Lunch With Gina was on the set list last night at the Borgata show. Followed Haitian Divorce, replaced TIMTM. I saw Pete Fogel after the show and chatted a few moments with him about the set change and the improv intro Ted Baker has added to My Old School.
Quite a show last night. The audience reaction reminded me of the recordings of the New York Rock and Soul shows, when it was evident that most everyone in attendance had already resigned themselves to never hearing a live version of Home At Last, and was properly thankful that they were getting the chance.
There was wild cheering just when the house lights went down, even more when the band took the stage, and especially when The Principals appeared and began Aja. In turn, last night's audience seemed to give the band that extra energy that makes a show memorable.
Roy: superfine description of the colourful events. One image stays with me, though: where I live, the National Weather Service issues storm warnings and tornado warnings, even blizzard warnings. To date, never any prophylactic warnings.
And I don't want to be there when they do...
User: Floridavid | Month: 7 | Day: 31
Message: Ole-Thanks for the Rich Color!C'mon Sept 16th!
Everynight lately, I'm sticking way more Dan than the Tourist's can handle in my set lists. Just my way of gearing up for the real deal.
Big Shout Outs to all my GB Pals. David
User: ggggggggg | Month: 7 | Day: 31
Message: Gina lives!!!!!!!!!
User: Ma... don't let 'em give me the chair! | Month: 7 | Day: 30
Message: Manassas 2003
Roy, you're way too kind to this old pentatonic scale hacker.
It was really wonderful to see you and Oleander and fezo again. Great to meet the Permasqueeze and Shark DeVille at the show. Wish we could have spent a lot more time together.
What an awe inspiring night it was! The Steely Dan Orchestra NEVER sounded better. Keith Carlock infuses energy into this band that puts them on a whole different level. You could tell that those folks were having a great time on stage. When you go to most concerts in general you usually pick out one or two musicians in the group who really stand out. In this band everyone is a shining star. The mix from the seventh row was perfect and the show flowed so smoothly from song to song that it really was almost overwhelming. My writing partner Jim Burnette and his lady went to the show with us and it was his first time seeing them live... something he had always wanted to do. He told me later that chills went down his spine when they started some of the tunes.
Hearing songs like Time Out of Mind and Caves live was like a once in a lifetime experience.
I had been curious about that Cubana Chant. Trying to imagine what it would be like. Reminded me a little of Two Against Nature (the song). A cool Latin time signature. It may have even been 6/4 but I don't know cause I was too busy looking to see the boys come out from the wings. What a moment that is! That ultra-laid-back saunter that Don does blows me away. He looks like he's so relaxed he's going to melt into
the floor at any moment. WB is all business walking out and they receive a well deserved ovation.
Seemed to me like Becker's solos were mixed just a little low and he didn't seem to be having a particularly "on" night as far as his guitar playing but I thought his vocals sounded great. Haitian Divorce works perfectly for him.
Herington was amazing. He'd start the solo off so you knew what it was (Peg) and then go into overdrive, but tasty as you want it to be. He never strays too far away from the feel that the guitar should have for each song. He nailed some incredible solos on My Old School, Don't Take Me Alive, Kid Charlemagne and Peg.
Black Cow (Roy's favorite) was a real highlight for me. The tempo was just a tiny bit slower than the original and I thought that gave it an even slinkier feel. Very cool.
Things I Miss the Most was beautiful. Really wonderfully executed.
The energy that builds as they get to those last four or five songs in the 2nd set is intoxicating.
Ted Baker, a star among stars, comes back with a beautiful little solo piano prelude that evolves into the ever recognizable intro to MOS and the place goes nuts!
I envy those who didn't know that one was coming.
And it was over all too soon. Really a great night.
Thank you Donald and Walter for getting back together and continuing to write great music. And thanks for touring so we can all get to see just how talented you guys really are. And take a side trip over to Europe as well next time.
I'm not even gonna talk about Carlock's Josie solo. Words can't describe it.
Hutch
User: SteveeDan | Month: 7 | Day: 30
Message: Hey Rajah - you'll only know for sure tomorrow. Is your mojo rising?
So, everyone, take Rajah's advice ...
put your monkey in your fez and come on out ... to ... yep, here it comes ...
PRETZEL LOGIC LIVE IN HERMOSA BEACH ... oops, sorry, I forgot ...
S H A M E L E S S .. P L U G G I N G .. T I M E ... ... ...
PRETZEL LOGIC LIVE IN HERMOSA BEACH TOMORROW SUNDAY AUGUST 31 AT 3 PM. WE WON'T STOP UNTIL 6 PM.
COME SEE RAJAH PLAY WITH HIS MONKEY-FEZ !!! BOFFO !!
SteveeDan
StveeDan - I got a nasty rumor you guys aren't doing Green Flower Street tomorrow at Hermosa Beach Pier at 3:00 PM put your monkey in your fez and come out. Why is dat?
User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 7 | Day: 30
Message: StveeDan - I got a nasty rumor you guys aren't doing Green Flower Street tomorrow at Hermosa Beach Pier at 3:00 PM put your monkey in your fez and come out. Why is dat?
User: Beers ... | Month: 7 | Day: 30
Message: Moll: people get ready ... there's a train a comin ........
User: Stevee(darn)Dan | Month: 7 | Day: 30
Message: Hey JayDubs ---
Man ! I really wish I could come over right now. It's early Saturday afternoon and I am on child patrol ... tomorrow the band plays in Hermosa so the wife will be stuck with the 5 year old ... so I have him today.
I'm not complaining ... I always have a great time with the boy ... but I really wish I could be up at your studio. Thanks for those photos of the Dead posters. I recognize them somewhat ... from the album cover. I haven't seen those that you put up. Great artwork ... I'm getting all swirly just looking at them.
JW we SHALL get together soon. I'm serious. And I'm looking forward to it.
Have a great Labor Day Weekend Everyone !!!
SteveeDan
User: Roy.Scam | Month: 7 | Day: 30
Message: Oleander~ Splendid description of the evening at Manassas, August 27. Made me feel as if I was right there with you. Oh wait! I WAS right there with you. Well, thanks for putting down the words to help me mentally re-create it in case, some day, in a fit of senility, I forget what a day and night it was. -- I'm so glad I talked you into this trip.
If anyone is sitting on the fence about attending the Dan 2003 tour, don't listen to that cautious, frugal, inner self. Plead, threaten or trick yourself into it. Get up in your own face if necessary. I myself, was indecisive: The expense, the mileage, the abandonment of other matters of importance, the exhaustion and anticlimax of the next day's return to work. Not to mention the previously unknown deterrents such as drowning and simultaneous electrocution by multiple converging lightning bolts. But my friend Oleander saved me from that bugabear mentality with her gift for organizing forays and her enthusiastic style of persuasion. And now I won't have to hate myself for missing an irreplaceable experience. And now I won't also have to hate those among you who have had the good fortune to make a stop on this tour.
WHAT I DID THIS AUGUST 27TH
As fezo and ole described, the WHETHURR (That's the worst spell of weather we've had around here in a long time) was real, real bad for a while there. Earlier, I'd spent 4 hours driving through a perfect pastoral day in my convertible with the top down; then when we started heading for Manassas, it instantly became wrath-of-God, last-20-minutes-of-Ghostbusters, meteorological mayhem. How bad was the storm? We're talking lightning bolts with 10 to 20 tributaries slashing from Mars to the core of the earth in no-point-no seconds. Even Danfans on the way to a Dan concert appeared momentarily distracted. The Audi we were in was nearly split into two separate T's. But the distraction only prevailed through the most flagrantly life-threatening crashes, then group reverie was restored.-- One of the evening's highlights was when we approached the pavilion and the loudspeaker was repeating the message, 'If you're not within the gates, you are advised to return to your vehicle until the worst of the storm subsides." along with some mumbling about the National Weather Service and it's prophylactic warnings. This was a highlight for me because I don't remember a single person turning back or even slowing down. These were Steely Dan fans on what might be a final pilgrimage. What possible PA announcement could turn back that crimson tide? The bad weather lasted through the first third of the show and neither the audience nor the players experienced dampened enthusiasm; the storm kind of came off as a really elaborate light show. In all honesty, I was real impressed with Donald's nerve. Imagine having the brass balls to sing "Godwhacker" under a tin roof, surrounded by electrical equipment, when lightening bolts were already striking within twenty feet or so.
Any description of the concert I might offer would probably sound like Cinquegenarian babbling, but don't be misled by my verbal limitations, they were sensational! This group of musicians is ... Shit! I don't have any words to convey it. Just trust me. If you don't see them, you're a lame ass. (Sorry, sometimes it's necessary to become abrasive; it's for your own good.)
Perhaps I'll try to do commentary on the concert later, but Oleander did it about as well as possible. Thanks to Ole and Fezo and Dave for a great time. Sorry I missed Bill and the Australians, but it was good to see Hutch again. When a musician of his caliber is raving, you know you're hearing primo stuff.
Don't deliberate. Just go.
RS
User: Moll the Mistress of Mayhem | Month: 7 | Day: 30
Message: St.Al, *kisses* for your shoulder...poor darlin :-(
Fife, I wrote you from E-mail address listed on here. Tell me if ya got them. I'm up to my ears in fresh vegetables... I've canned tomatoes, tomato juice, salt pickles, corn, beans and made some peach chutney this last week. Have you got any decent salsa recipes?
Oleander, nice review! Yeah I'll write and/or call your Boss about your Gran ;-).
BB, Fingers....Where the hell are ya keeping yourselves?
Dennis, get in touch with me. Your Auntie worries. ggggggrrrrrrrrr!
off to sulk about not seeing Steely again...
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 30
Message: t: Perfect! I have the only 4 cylinder Van in Texas...it's power is only 30 wpm as well!
Jimbo: I was being a little facetious, and agree...Chris Rock's putdowns on the fly would be the ONLY reason to watch (I'm sure there will be 35 reruns). Unfortunately, I'm too cheap to buy HBO viewing to catch his or Dennis Miller's shows, but I've seen him here and there on Specials and remember Chris Rock as about the only funny person on SNL besides Chris Farley for a couple of years. Yeah, the Madonna, Britney, Christina smooch-off was pure staged hype. Boring really...again nothing that couldn't be seen on HBO or Cinemax or Stern nightly...it's like the videos - what ever happened to the music or even the music video? (I contend there was no reason to go on after the Snowbound video - what a cool, weird one! and worth getting the Kama DVD-A alone) There was a critic in the Baton Rouge paper who reveled in doling out the occasional ZERO STARS for an album or movie or putrid quality ...and who once wrote about a Modonna album - to paraphrase: "I could give this latest Madonna album a review of some sort. But Why? It's like reviewing a can of tuna fish! It's pure product, and you know exactly what you're getting. Zero Stars."
A good portion of the press has just gotten into the E! machine mode...celebrities of all types are given a royal family treatment - a combination of worship, contempt, and fodder for papparzi feeding frenzy...like they say: Any Press is good Press...a poor excuse for culture...I prefer mine now on the bottom of a cup of tantric yogurt.
User: Jimbo | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: DACW-I didn't see the awards, but I kinda thought the press purposely overlooked Chris Rock's condemnation of MTV (ex-music television) in order to look on Madonna's indulgent suck up (no pun intended) to those two brats.
I think I'd rather hear Rock's commentary, especially on Ruben of American Shit , I mean Idol. Chris said that with Barry White's death and Luther's illness, he hopes that somewhere, Ruben is eating a salad.
User: Jaydubz | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: Steeve ~ Thanks, man! You'll have to come up and fool around the studio sometime...any way you can break away on a Saturday afternoon? Got a slew of new synths in the ever-expanding rack, including a Yamaha Motif Rack (same soundset as your S-90), a Roland XV-5050, an Emu Vintage Pro and a Korg MS2000R...and no more being relegated to working through headphones!
The poster is a Griffin known as the "Hawaiian Aoxomoxoa", because it kinda' bears a resemblance to the original Aoxomoxoa Avalon poster (and cover of subsequent Dead album of the same name, on which Rick modified the image to fit the square LP format). The concert was supposed to take place in Honolulu, with opening act It's a Beautiful Day ("White Bird") but was cancelled at the last minute. The first edition had a VERY limited run, and it's one of the many holy grails of Rick Griffin collectors. It's bigger than the subsequent (two) printings, and goes on the market for 4-5 grand. Unsigned seconds retail at about $350.00, signeds much more since Rick's no longer around to sign 'em. It's a beautiful image - of the hundreds of posters in my collection, I picked 10 to decorate the studio walls, and that was one of them. The image ABOVE the mixer is a hand-signed lithograph of the Yes/"Relayer" album by Roger Dean, another fav! When you come over, I'll break out the poster collection and take ya' down memory lane!
Original Avalon Aoxo -
http://www.sunnycot.demon.co.uk/images/aoxomoxoa.jpg
Hawaiian Aoxo -
http://www.dking-gallery.com/pix/Dead/Haoxo.jpg
User: tones | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: St. Al - your one hand at 30 wpm is still faster than my two. I think the lovely Mrs. St. Al should pour you onto a plane to Dallas, and maybe DACW can come and collect what's left of you there and point you in the direction of the show, if for no other reason so that D & W can know the sound of one hand clapping.
But just in case, there's still great seats available for Concord.
seriously... stay medicated and keep one flap down...
Hey ole... loved the colour, with the special effects and everything.
Same for everyone else... It's like following them from city to city on tour without having to quit my job. Thanks!
wormy - continue...
tnz
User: StAl... Did someone get the name of that freight train? | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: Typing with one hand sucks. I'm used to typing at around 60 WPM...
Sounds like everyone is having a great time and Dallas is starting to look questionable...sigh...
Dr K: They gave me Dilaudid in the hospital. I thought of you.
StAl
User: fezo | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: Nissan?
what ole said . . . except to add that the storm was even more apocalyptic than she so artfully detailed. I kept waiting for the Four Horsemen to enter, stage right.
User: funniest line of the day (so far)... | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: "...and the Wednesday Addams-imitating Christina Aguilera was notable primarily for her ongoing efforts to redefine the words "skanky ho.""
http://www.suntimes.com/output/entertainment/cst-ftr-mtv29.html
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: Uh, Whore, *gasp*, um........that was soooooooooooooo hot......
*pant*
the keyword is survival in the new frontier
ygk
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: Just saw a pic of Britney and Madonna lip locked...It's truly the end of Civilization as we know it ladies and gentlemen...or the beginning of the age of Howard Stern where chick sex = chick fight
User: Moll the Mistress of Mayhem | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: Spike, I always pay attention...... stay away from those Bond babes. I love you *kisses~~~~~~~~~*
Make No Mistake
Make no mistake about it
Things ain't what they seem
I'm gonna scream and shout it
This is just a dream
A simple conversation
Every now and then
A touchy situation
Fascinates a man
What shall I do, if I should see you
And have to pretend that we have never met
Its not a cheap sensation
When you touch me with your hand
A little complication
Can hypnotize a man
How we gonna hide it
This thing with you and me yeah
Everyone can tell by now
I just can't lie you see
What shall I say to hide it, to hide it baby
No words can convey your lips melting into mine
No mistake, no mistake
Make no mistake, make no mistake about it
Make no mistake, c'mon make no mistake, make no mistake
about it
I'm gonna make you mine, no need to talk it over, we're
running out of time
I've made up my mind about you
I know in my heart that you have the same point of view
Make no mistake, this is it
Make no mistake, make no mistake
It's not we don't have the time
Make no mistake
Not in the right place
make no mistake, make no mistake
Ooh come on baby, make no mistake
No mistake
I'm talking to ya baby
K Richards
User: SouthOfHollywood | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: Bluz...Awesome show this morning!...Thanks for the goods...SOH
User: SteveeDan | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: Steviedan - my namesake. Thank you very much. The StevEEfest is still at full tilt. Everything looks crooked. I hope all is well with you.
SteveeDan
User: SteveeDan | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: JayDubs (Post # 4435) - That's a beautiful studio. I wish you a lot of success and enjoyment with it. What's that colorful poster in the corner of the studio? Is that a Grateful Dead poster? I recognize ... somewhat.
Clas -- Still trying to get a couple of tracks mastered for you. After this weekend, I should be able to handle it. Thank you for you continued reminders.
SteveeDan
User: Vincent Egan | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: Oh the current US tour sounds fun - I wish I had the spare cash and time to justify a weekend in at Roseland shows. But amongst the enthusiasm, just a note of concern; I saw SD at the NEC in Birmingham in 1993 and 1996; 'My old school' was the encore on both occasions, and FM on the second (and occasionally played on the first) tour. 'Dont take me alivce' was also a regular fixture. Lets get real - the fans are part of a 70s demographic. Moreover, to allude to an old Frank Zappa gag, the younger ones in any audience were probably conceived to the self-same music. There's plenty of songs to play - even SDed covers normally kept for the soundcheck. WHEN the tour comes to Europe (come on guys!) eschew 'My Old School'...
User: Dan | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: Ole , Another superb dooser of a wingding.
There has been so much good shit on here lately , what are we gonna do when tour comes to an end??
I know ?? Maybe Don & Walt can come to bloody blighty!!
Dano says , Im aff fir a swallie.
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: Oleander...
Whatever you need to get you to the Roseland show....we shall cheerfully provide. I enthusiastically volunteer the services of one Aussie Torres, fabricator extraordinaire (and Aus, you know I mean that in the nicest possible sense). I'll BE your sick grandmother on the phone if need be.
Sometimes, in the course of pursuing a dream, some minor things, like one's livelihood, must be sacrificed for the greater good.
Dan is certainly greater than good.
User: Hank (A.C. or Bust) Silvers | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: ole: Madame la fleur toxique, thanks for delivering the essence of Manassas. What a night, indeed -- you made me wish I'd made the drive. But no, I'm saving my gas money for the Borgata show tomorrow night. This should be fun: Labor Day weekend traffic going to Atlantic City on the AC Expressway. And rain in the forecast besides. Let alone driving home afterward. But there's gas in the car, EZPass for the tolls, and the payoff will be worth it.
Coffee in SD songs? You must be referring to the fine Colombian, right? "Mountain grown - it's the richest kind!"
User: angel | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: Wormy: They did the Paso Soundcheck at 3P and the Toronto one seemed to be closer to 4P, if that helps.
Ole: Beyond wonderful! Goosebumps! I vote with Aussie. You and me and a stage and dancing in NYC. A repeat of some Danfests I happen to remember, but with the prime movers and shakers? I can dig it.
User: wormy | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: hey Ole - fan tab u lous color on the virginia show
I felt as if the rain had just let up - the heavnes parted and the music unfolded as I was reading it - pure vivid splashes
love hearing the progressing perceptions of the initiate as the tour rolls around. Feels like one big collective wave in St Al's Yellow fish bowl
Sorry to hear StevieD and Midnite Jim weren't in the NC contingent there
this week I entered the vinyl arena after an over 20 year absence
wow - the dynamics, the detail, the wonderful overtones
my dan collection is in good shape and I love finding new things on the cheap I'm in aural bliss
the new MOJO arrived in the mailbox yesterday
3 pages of Dan - one an aja era full page photo
epiphone and sax on the porch
and an interesting brief interview - wouldn't want to spoil the fun
catch it in your local Barnes and Knobles or Borders
pg 38 Yellow - The Strokes cover
that Jones Beach dan fest looked like a great time for all
auss - try this email for a big photo dump
so when's Greenbook making the setlist??? Lunch? EMG?
also what time of day does the dan generally do the soundcheck?
Albuquerque is an outdoor setting so I'd like to catch things echoing down the canyons ....
I am resplendant in divergence
wormy
User: duncan | Month: 7 | Day: 29
Message: Ole Ole Ole
dohhhhh !!!!
should have taken you up on that offer
User: steviedan | Month: 7 | Day: 28
Message: damn ole, you're killin' me here ! full-color commentary on the pure musical contributions with such ole-isms that you barely needed to sign that post. if you recall, mister d offered that same "see you next time" in raleigh back in double-ought and what a BITTER HOLLOW PROMISE THAT turned out to BE !!!
... no no... i'm okay...
thanks for sprinkling us...
can't wait to hear hutch's take...
User: C @ W | Month: 7 | Day: 28
Message: Stevie - ok, thanx.
---
During the night our own family doctor, Dr. Fill, been busy.
Check out his Daily Words of Wisdom at:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill
Or click the URL above.
User: Aussie | Month: 7 | Day: 28
Message: Oleander: Holy Jesus! What fuckin' awesome colour! Thanks a million for taking me there. And worry not Ole, I will be more than ready willing and able to author a splendid get-out-of-work tome, just for you. See you and hopefully the Permasqueeze as well at the Roseland gigs.
Aus
User: oleander.....................................................lay it all on don & walt | Month: 7 | Day: 28
Message: Hey, donÆt tell Kruger, but itÆs working--most doctors, especially shrinks, forget that if itÆs a nice delusion, say including three squares and the occasional Dan show, who wants to get ôwellö? His denial may be the sweetest of all, and if I can amuse him with my pathology, whatÆs not to like? I mean, how many DID-ers do you know with a toxic flower as an alter?
But my current malady is post-Manassas bliss. WHAT A NIGHT! (I quote)
We had a nice old-school GB miniDanFest with Roy.Scam, fezo, the Permasqueeze, & me. As usual, I wore Steely-themed garb--having to do with coffee & New Orleans (OK: where is coffee mentioned in SD songs?) After a mellow hang and scrumptious preconcert repast expertly prepared by chef fezo, we piled in the Permmobile and headed to the venue. It was a perfect, cloudless late summer evening. Of course, as we got closer, we drove smack into desperate and dark clouds and tornado-force winds which morphed further into the god-awful-scariest thunderstorm in recent memory. Zeus must have been hitting the uppers hard, and his hurling hand was hot, hot, hot. I was not sanguine on our ability to make it to the show, but despite being soaked to the bone and sure of eventual electrocution, we bravely made it in. And found Hutch and friends--great to see you! I hope the move and gigs go great--and shark deville, straight outta Tampa. The lightning continued to enhance the visuals onscreen for quite a while, and R.S commented that the setlist should be amended to include ôChain Lightning.ö
The start was delayed a bit while everyoneÆs adrenaline rush edged off, but no sooner did the lights dim than the endorphins started to spike. We had lovely center orch seats and could see everyone quite vividly. What a rush when the band walked on and started to play! It was as noted earlier--they were saying: weÆre going to fucking pin your ears back, so get used to it. This was my first and next-to-last show of the tour, and when Mr. F & Mr. B walked on (without shaking hands this time), I was just a bag of morphine-analog gel. Damn, IÆd go to a HUNDRED shows, and I wouldnÆt care if they played ôPegö ten times in a ROW!
Except for an occasional feedback squeak, the sound was very good. The set list has been posted. At first, I was a little dubious about the down-tempo treatment of ôBabylon Sistersö and a couple of other first-set tunes, but ôGodwhackerö KICKED and the entire second set SLAMMED. The energy and synergy were dynamite. Mr. B was splendid on lead, and his ôHaitian Divorceö made me wonder why he didnÆt sing it in the first place. He place-tweaked ôSlangö with ôIf you grew up in Washingtonàö And he gave us ôSlang me!ô Mr. FÆs voice and delivery were at their inimitable best. I just go all to pieces when he sings, ôGive the man some whackinÆ spaceö (among other things). He also did some amazing things on the Rhodes, the Lync, and even the Goofus, Mr.BÆs fond moniker for the melodica (wind piano? Diamonica? Melodeon?), and is nonpareil as a bandleader. HeÆs starting to look kinda like Dave Brubeck, which is not a bad thing. Yeah, he misses a couple words. So what? ThereÆs a lot of call and (audience) response going on anyway.
And the other musicians: Walt Weiskopf has great tone and chops; Michael Leonhart--calm and crisp and strong; Jim Pugh--all the trombone jokes burnt to a crisp in the flames of his riffs; Mr. Bumpus--that immovable exterior belies the perfection and grace of his solos; Jon Herington looks like a young Lou Reed and plays like an angel on aphrodisiacs; Tom Barney--he IS the pocket; and Keith Carlock--omigod, he is a DIAMOND. Even the superlatives of the Fandom didnÆt prepare me. I can usually tell where a drum solo is going, but on ôJosieö he deconstructed me like a Braque. I also think heÆs superbly suited for the Dan with his precise but passionate creativity. And Ted Baker--I wanted to go up, take his hand, and ask him to play solo for me for 3 or 4 hours. IÆd love to hear him ply his lyrical virtuosity as he did in the intro to ôJosieö in æ00.
OK, I miss Victoria Cave, and still think the vocal mesh of the Babe Choir æ00 canÆt be matched, but the BC delivered on ôParkerÆs Band,ö and they were steady ON the entire show. ôShake itö went to a whole nother level. Fezo summed it up when he said that looking at Ms. Leonhart made him feel that all was right with the world.
Oh yes, and Mr. Fagen ended with "See you next time!" whatever that means.
Enough raves already. IÆm home, richer by a few t-shirts and a poster and another headful of magnificent Steely memories. My shoes have even dried out. Thanks to Roy.Scam and fezo for hospitality and companionship, and the PÆsqueeze for driving 7 hours each way to chase this particular grail.
And say, anyone up for writing my boss that my grandmother is ailing and needs me to take care of her at Roseland 9/12-13?
User: Moll | Month: 7 | Day: 28
Message: King of the World, I apologize if I was insensitive about your illness. That was certainly never my intention. My basic philosophy about life has always been this: We each are allotted a certain amount of time here. It doesn't really matter when, or the manner in which a person dies. But how one lives while they are here. That belief gives me a sense of direction and comfort. I hope whatever your beliefs are, they give you comfort. M
User: fife | Month: 7 | Day: 28
Message: Hello all,
this just in, The Eagles are playing a private concert, here in our nations capital, to celebrate the purchase of the Ottawa Senators, our NHL team by Eugene Mylnek. The whole city is abuzz, the catch though is you have to be a season ticket or package holder. MMM a six pack of hockey might just be the the thing. I realize that this is not dan news but its too bad mylnek's wife favorite group wasn't steely!!
Moll- did you get the pictures i e-mailed you or should i try again
bluz- i miss you being in chat everynight
jaz-where the heck are you, is there a run on the deceased lately?
fife
User: Moll | Month: 7 | Day: 28
Message: King of the World....... WTF are you talking about?
User: king of the world | Month: 7 | Day: 28
Message: Molly-- you didn't bother to find out what kind of medical situation this is, before you commented on it. You have no clue what you're talking about. I won't address any more remarks on the medical thing to you, and I hope that will mean I won't be getting any further comments on this from you. In any case, I'm going to wait until you get any reactions to this post out of your system, before I come back here.
User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 7 | Day: 28
Message: OK, so three more shows this weekend, then the ten day break. Everyone goes off for a few days then back to the Upper West Side to rehearse on the 8th and/or 9th. Then a tune up on the 10th before the very high pressure Roseland shows. We'll know the tale of this tour after Roseland.
User: Bill | Month: 7 | Day: 28
Message:
Nissan Pavilion Addendum a.k.a. "Whoops"
Right, add Parker's Band to the second set and you will have a slightly more accurate account of this particular show.
User: duncan | Month: 7 | Day: 28
Message: Would anyone believe me if i said that the builders have finished the bathroom.
it was started the day EMG was released..
where does the time go
User: Bill | Month: 7 | Day: 28
Message:
Nissan Pavilion Show - "And the heavens opened.."
Last night's show at Nissan was an otherworldly experience. First, we were treated to the full fury of a raging tempest, against which the aforementioned "pavilion" offered little protection. Then, after a brief delay (and a curious Mr. Becker appearing onstage amongst the roadies), it was showtime.
The setlist, though the order may not be perfect:
First Set
[band overture]
Aja
Time Out of Mind
The Caves of Altamira
Godwhacker
Black Cow
Babylon Sisters
Peg
Slang of Ages
Home at Last
Second Set
[The Steely Dan Show]
Janie Runaway
Hey 19*
Things I Miss the Most
Haitian Divorce
Josie
Kid Charlemagne
Don't Take Me Alive
Encore
My Old School
FM
All told, some seriously funky work from the band (especially "Time Out of Mind" and "Kid Charlemagne"), some great banter from Donald and Walter, and a superb (and subtle) use of lights and projected images throughout.
Not a bad first Dan show for this young fan.
*Say what you will about including hoary "hits" and shopworn "classics", "Hey Nineteen" kicked serious ass, especially with that Cornelius Bumpus solo at the end.
User: s | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: matter of fact ?
it's a "clas-sical gas" ...
...NOOOOOOO !
User: stevie slicin' and dicin' | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: st al, i hope you are up on the good foot soon !
stevEE, happy stevEEfest !
beast without, good to hear your voice again. i again join in the mantra for more new material. the steely dan i love are NOT a nostalgia act. as for the corporate sponsorship, in the present day interstate/international touring climate/scheme/hierarchy, i don't think they can afford not to. who doesn't on some level or another ? maybe a few, but i couldn't right off hand name one major act...
longisland-iced-dude ? SOOO glad here everyday to not be living in your world. did they not implore you and "the crowd" to either "wave in the air like you just don't care" or "c'mon everybody clap" your collective hands. you know like, to get you guys going and stuff ?
aus ? now there's your colour there folks. the man's thang is trademark. BAM !
clas, that album is listed on e-bay three times and they accept international trade. why not eliminate the middle man and save on shipping ? the "buy it now" prices are reasonable, so you don't even have to bid. join in on the worldwide market, clas. it's a gas...
that's how i acquired the "steviedan reissue of the week"(TM), "the first seven days" by a pre-miami vice jan hammer. finally !
User: C | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: JayDubz - went in on your homepage. Mighty setup you have.
I am wondering about one of those softwares; Corel Bryce
As an old PC-user, I have used Corel Draw in my daily work for about 14 years (instead of the Mac-ers Illustrator and Freehand).
But what is Corel Bryce?
I am curious.
User: C @ W | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: JayDubz - there's something wrong with the link. Or is it me?
Anyway, I am looking forward to hear your "Songs from the Canyon".
--
Hutch - sorry to hear that, but good luck with the new house.
User: Jaydubz | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: Clas ~ Still haven't rolled any proverbial "tape", but I'm finished moving in, back from vacation, and I finished (knock on wood!) rewiring the studio in the new crib...so's I should be able to sit down and squeeze out a tune for the compilation ~ I promise! :)~
Here's a shot of the new studio up in the Laurel Canyon digs:
http://www.mthigh.com/forum/attachments/laurelcanyonstudio.jpg
User: BORROWATHRILL | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: CAN ANYONE ADVISE ON THE BEST OF THE BEST QUALITY SD CD RECORDINGS? ARE THEY AVAILABLE I ONE SET IE: CITIZEN SD?
User: Ned Flanders | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: Golly, I hope they *don't* do that G - almighty whappin' song... It gives me the heebie-jeebies!
User: trusty angel girl | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: Tonight we might find out if Steely Dan is going to change the set list for the Southern leg of the journey. Could we get a substitution of "Green Book" for "Godwacker"? Time will tell.
User: lp | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: jane doe - now that i gotta see, perfect! wish i was going to 'cuse but alas i am done with my shows
ed - lol, how have you been? wish i could have partied with you sir!
nmn - same to you but i am glad you at least got to see the last of the mohegans - going to the kingdom the first weekend in otcober
aus - thanks for the pics - you look happy in your scene my dear - enjoy!
on my sunny island!
User: Dan Caragher | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: Hey SD Fans !
Can anyone post a recent setlist ?
Please ????
Thanks !
User: Ron in VA | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: Anyone going to see the Dan in Virginia tonight?
Any pre or post concert parties going on???
I'm breaking out the hats and hooters for the show.
I can't wait!!
Judging by the recent posts, my bride and I are in for a real treat!
Ron in Virginia
User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: Dear Doctors: My reptile brain is now in combat mode. The visitors to this virtual place are all solid and productive beings, caring and creative in their own right. The majority of us have the ability to separate that Id from the Ego, no small feat since we all want what we want and we want it now. Many of us do ride on the ontological plane with shocking ease, very thin tether. But that don't mean we're crazy. Now in this country we have the Steely Dan tour, in this country we have the 5.1 MTS, and in this country we spend lots of American dollars buying things DanSteel, going to shows, meeting up with our fellow inmates -er- Danmates, drinking from da coco shell and then rushing back to this site to metaphorically prance around in our own poo. It's the only thing that makes sense in this pre-apocalyptical phase. So light up everything cause the barn's been definey set on fire, and we're heading over the falls. But that don't mean we're crazy. Preposterous poppycock. Physicians deludin themselves. Ticky-tock, ticky-tock, rikki-tikki-tikki-tock.
User: AMDWTY | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: LID or z or whoever: If all you were saying was that you felt like throwing a bad sneaker to knock a vocalizing cat off the fence, then I'm with you bro. Maybe the years of using top class talent to showcase their tunes has spoiled you. WB himself states on the AJA DVD that he feels "outclassed" as a performer, so this is nothing new.
Besides, Dr. Wu, I mean Dr. K, has stated that it's all a psychological experiment anyway. I didn't mean to confuse the two (Dr. Wu was the one who was really just a shadow of the man that I once knew). This other guy has things well in hand, although as a psychoanalyst myself I believe Freud would frown on the theraputic value of capri pants, pumps and tiaras. They are sometimes potent vasoconstrictors which have been known to cause cerebral vasospasms.
User: Web Boy | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: Clas- Hutch is to busy. He can't send you a song and move into a new house at the same time.
Hutch- Please send a song. You don't want to be on Clas's shit list for the rest of your life...do you?
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: Just wanted to shout out a friendly post-Bacchanal hello to all those I was fortunate to meet at Bayside's:
Ed (hey, you look like....)& Laura, LWO, the Aussies, Sandy, FanODan.....now will someone refresh my memory, or do I have to hit Lady Bayside up for another Zombie to "return" my memories of that eclectic eve?
Aja: glad you're diggin' it.....
ygk
User: Hutch | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: Clas - I won't be submitting anything this time. It has nothing to do with whether or not I "like" you. I'm fully aware of how the GB cd works and I realize it's not YOUR cd. I'm right in the middle of buying a house and there hasn't been any time to attend to much more than that.
I was going to explain this to you in a private e-mail but, all things considered, it's probably best that I just let you know right here.
Good luck with the project.
Hutch
User: duncan | Month: 7 | Day: 27
Message: some more tour pics up on sd.com
the stage looks bloody great !!
User: C @ Work | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Hutch, look, if you don't like me, you don't have to send in a song for the GBook CD. It's up to you.
But I think you're missing the point, it's not MY CD, it's OURS, us on this board.
I am just trying to put it together.
And if this Long Island Dude had some opinions on the Steely Dan concert, so what? I couldn't care less.
---
Brett (Schwinn) is in with a song
So are Roy Scam, he and his son.
Gaucho - yes, the mad South American.
Gina
Howard has promised to send a song.
JayDubz (how's it going?)
SteveeDan
W1P?
---
I asked Bob T, he was honored but hadn't time. I asked him to convince Miz Ducky to send in a song. If you're reading this Miz, please?
Bad Sneakers - are you still willing to master the stuff?
You'll find my snailmail at:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/sketchesandstrangeloops
Or click the URL above.
User: ed beatty | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Hey,
Just procured and listened to (2x) the SACD GAUCHO released today
Don't bother its nothing more than a re-release of the DTS 5.1 version
from a few years back.The sound is literally the same
Yawn..Save the bucks for Roseland or whatever,where ever or whom ever
I think the fact that the SD ODP didn't trumpet its release is a telling
statement
IMHO
Ed
User: janedoe | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: anyone plannin on goin to the syracuse state fair show? i'll be the one in the black cow outfit next to the dairy barn...........can't wait.....
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Still at work, dammit.....
Aus...got the pix, but I'd suggest you post them to Shutterfly or one of those sites...granted the pictures are great, but my mailbox keeps getting filled up.
Love the one of you and your loverly wife!
Lady B, who did try on high heeled sneakers with Aja this weekend!
User: Randy | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message:
Aja:
I'm crushed; you came all the way from the Pacific coast and didn't stop in to see me here in Jersey; never mind the petty details that I caught the Dan at the venue formerly known as the Garden State Arts Center on the 17th and you were at Jones Beach. That dime dance should have been worth the fucking price of a plane ticket when I've got a girlfriend named Kimberly "who's not afraid to try new things."
I supposed together we'll endure the tyranny of the disallowed; call me Deacon Blues.
Randy
NIGHTFLY62(at)aol.com
(Glad to hear you had a nice time anyway.)
User: Aja | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: I am sooooo jealous of all you going to Roseland! I'm still in a New York state of mind, not to mention there's an Egyptian restaurant that I need to try in SoHo.......
Did you ever get those high-heeled sneakers, LadyB?
Forgot one detail from Jones Beach: the morning after, I woke up in a muellered haze from 3 zombies and realized that I'd lost my $85 sunglasses, but managed to save my cocoa shell and pleazhure pass.....
YGK-Your CD is UNBELIEVABLE! If you don't already have this CD, contact YGK now and get it ASAP!
Aja
User: Aussie | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Lady BaySide: LOL! The State Police did appreciate the offer of the shrimp cocktail but neither of the officers accepted.
By the way, I just tried sending you, Aja and Wormy some pics of the boys and the Babe Choir in action from that magical evening but all three of your respective emails generated delivery failure messages (you may need to delete some existing amils in your accounts, or in the alternative provide yours truly with a bettre email address)......Pictures sent to St. Al, LuckLess Pedestrian, YGK, FloriDavid apparently went through without hitches.
Little Wild One: Forward me your email address, I have a great shot of you and SouthOfHollywood taken in the parking lot before the show.
Aus
User: Nostril-Damus | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Cool! Check out this EMG review:
http://ruthlessreviews.com/music/s/steelydaneverythingmustgo.html
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: I also have to say that the State and Park police were also extremely kind to us, considering we had a fairly decent sized BBQ grill set up (I wonder if it is still there...since we couldn't fit it back in my van assembled, we just left it), pitchers of lethal looking drinks and a large group of people wearing laminated pictures of dildos around their necks.
They weren't even that bad about herding us out of the parking lot after the show. Perhaps it is because Aus offered them some shrimp cocktail.
LadyB
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: I'm still recovering. I'm still too damn tired to do an original post, so this is a retread. Sorry.
That having been said, I wanted to say thanks to everyone who came to the Bacchanal...Ed & Laura, LWO, YGK, Aus and Jutta, Skippy, the Aussies, AJA (I couldn't forget you, even if Aus was too impaired to type you on the list!), Sandy, Penny & Co., HOOPS (Thanks for the tiara..I'm sleeping with it on!), Jason (sporting the Dean & Deluca shirt...I got him so liquored up on Zombies I thought he'd be spending the show in his trunk!), Nigey and Co, Pete (on whose suggestion I might just go into the Danfest catering business!) and Shari...we had quite the crowd!
4 pounds of shrimp cocktail ($20)
5 fezzes ordered from the internet ($20)
6 pounds of mozzarella and roasted pepper salad ($18)
8 pitchers of Zombies (all totalled, probably about $150)
35 cocoa shells for above referenced Zombies $40)
Getting to see both my favorite band and some of my favorite people in the same night....priceless.
You guys were awesome. What a party.
Wish we could go back...and do it again.
See you at Roseland.
I'll be the one in the tiara.
LadyB
User: Doctor Warren Kruger | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Long Island Dude- I don't know how you reached this web page, it was supposed to be monitored by Krugerresearch Inc., but I can see your presence here is something that I believe can be quite therapeutic for many of the patients here.
If you haven't figured it out already, this is a kind of virtual therapy center that KR Inc. has been testing for the last few years.
The "residents" are very seriously disturbed individuals who have a great deal of trouble fitting into normal society.
Since most of them are mid-to-late baby boomers, KR Inc. came up with the idea of having them role play online, using names that relate to one of the popular music groups from a time when most of them were much more functional (their adolescence).
Of course, this group is Steely Dan, and they have been paid to let us use their anachronistic music and lyrics to put our patients in a less catatonic state of mind.
Each one of them has given themself a cute little name relating to this nostalgic band from the 70s.
Some of them of course are still suffering from delusions of grandeur- take patient #3 who calls himself "St. Al"- an obvious religious fantasy (he wanted to call himself Jesus Presley, but our staff voted that down).
He believes he is "in control" of the "guestbook" (as he calls it)and even some of our most potent psychotropic drugs have had no effect on this symptom of his.Another, who calls himself "Razor Boy" and who could only afford Web TV, even thinks that you are z, another patient. Fortunately, RB has been put in a restraint jacket, and can only do harm to himself now..
Generally, they like to imagine they are fully-functioning, productive members of society, when in reality, most have not left their clinic rooms in several years.
While our therapy has been very successful in recent evaluations (eg. the one who calls himself Clas, has displayed very few anti-social symptoms as of late and is learning to "get along well with others") they have seemed to hit a therapeutic stone wall lately.
That Steely Dan group has been hitting the nostalgia circuit as of late (we originally chose them because they rarely performed live in the past), and of course none of our patients here are well enough to attend any of these 1970s nostalgia shows.
As a result, many of them are having delusions that they have have left the clinic and have actually attended some of these shows. This is a major breakdown in their reality-testing skills, and it wasn't until you popped up from out of nowhere, that some of them have been shaken from their false belief systems.
Their reactions to your actual experience of seeing the Steely Dan band perform, seems to have awakened something in what's left of their rational thinking processes and even has seemed to given them something to unite around- hating you.
So please, if you are still lurking around out there in cyber-land, feel free to post again at will- your services are much needed.
Therapeutically Yours,
Dr. K.
User: angel | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Ed: You want to run number five back at me again? WTF? :-)
User: angel | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Yes, Friday!!!!!!
User: enimen | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Yes, Angel, working on getting a posse together for Roseland. Are you going?
(sorry about Roseland, lp...my true colors? NO! GO SOX!)
User: ed beatty | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Top Ten Reasons that The Bayside Bacchanal/SD show was FFFING Great
Or why I was glad to be there.
10. AussieÆs Magical Mystical Concoctions in the cooler
9. The Steely Dan Show
8. Lady Bayside arranging for the lightning show above the venue during the Keith Carlock drum solo
7. HoopÆs sporting a fez for the night and more.
6. AussieÆs contribution of the Bayside Bacchanal IDÆS (adults only)
5. The sex
4..The AussieÆs from way down under who had to check out SD and Jones Beach
3. The Zombies in the coco-shell
2. The crowning of Lady Bayside with TIARA
1. Walter and Donald of course
User: angel | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Not My Nancy!!!!!!! Oh, sorry enimen. ;-)
I agree with just about everything you said. Peg is not leaving, neither is FM. Get used to it Dan heads. Actually, I think FM works well for them. A jazzy kind of song, that lots of people who have the "Decade of Steely Dan" CD, own and are familiar with. I am so glad you finally managed to catch them in concert. Got anything else semi-planned? A trek to Roseland, perhaps?
St. Al: Godspeed and good luck.
User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Yeah Enimem, count me in on the Peg bandwagon. As much as I'd like to see 19 and FM hit the road, not our Peg. To tell you the truth, I'm still not sick of it on the radio, the song is coming up on thirty years old, still amazing and when Jay Graydon ripped off that solo at a gig by Dr. Wu at the Whisky last year, it raised the hairs. I think they put on a big push these last ten years to get back into the limelight and, having accomplished that, are more than happy to disappear back into the woodwork. Funny, I don't hear people reporting the usual DF valediction of, "see you next year."
User: enimen | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: I've missed every damn show on the tour so far, so on the theory that enough is enough, I bombed down after work to Mohegan Sun last night for the 7pm early bird special. Walked up to the window at showtime and scored a 16th row seat right in front of Fagen--ah, the benefits of being solo and swooping in for unclaimed high-roller seats.
It was just plain lots of fun. Quick song and player comments:
Carlock--gives you everything you want, when you want it. Kind of reminds me of Drew Zingg that way. While D&W find that kind of virtuosity appealing, I don't think they particularly like the more-is-more approach in the long run. I predict that, like DZ, KC will be a one-tour wonder. Enjoy him--he is spectacular.
Funny kid. Clearly a drum nerd--notice how his left hand holds the stick the "right" way? So intense too--I think that actually was a shortcoming in "Time out of Mind." TOTM needs to be an effortless, blissful cruise, and there's nothing effortless about Carlock. He's working hard all the time.
Don--nice and relaxed. Seems to be more comfortable with live performing every year. I frankly think the spotlight of the 2VN tour--first album in 20 years, Grammy talk--was too much for him. The audience is smaller this year, and I think that's actually good. (We'll come back to that point.)
I loved his line after "The Steely Dan Show": "That's a little tribute to us, written by...well, us actually. We're kind of ashamed of that. And here are two more songs we're ashamed of." Then into the "jailbait medley" of Janie and Hey 19 (which, incidently, elicited a Springsteen like sing-along from audience members).
Walt--in a nice groove, playing and singing quite well, to my ears. The only time I don't love his playing is when he's trying to do something that he shouldn't, especially the crisply articulated rhythm bits (as in the verse of Peg). I understand why he's not the crowd pleaser that Fagen (on vocals) or Harrington (on guitar) is. But I ain't the crowd--I'm a fan.
Peg--I know the arguments against including it in the set. We hear it every year. It's the one song we hear on the radio.
But look (and I've said this before): Peg is the freakin' gothic cathedral of popular songs. It's perfect. It pulls in everything about music from John Cage to Louie, Louie. Those dense chords, built on the blues but defiantly major key, the beat with elements of disco and swing and power-chord metal, chunky keyboard riffs and the driving but lazy guitar solo and the beautiful choral back-up...just a tour de force. My whole body ate it up.
Count me as the number one apologist for Peg.
Last point:
I really like that the Y2K/2VN frenzy over. They're more relaxed, we're more relaxed, it's easier to get tickets, the gadflies are dropping by the wayside.
It's just us again, kids.
User: Dano | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Aja , Seemed i was in NYC with you there on that report, great stuff.
StAl, Hope everything goes well mate.
Dano.
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Cara Mia: See you there!
ygk
User: cara mia | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Hey Herm!
What's new you ask?
Oh just waiting around for the Dan to release a new album and hope against hope they might go on tour...
meanwhile to fend off boredom, there's the usual baiting and bickering going on here...
;-)
cara mia (working my way to Roseland)
User: Sociable Hermit | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message:
Hey All,
So, what's new?
Herm
User: Dan Review | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Saw the Mohegan Sun show yesterday. Same set list as PNC (the other show I saw.) Sound wasn't bad for an arena, but not as good as the ampitheaters. Show started before 7:30 and finished before 10 as to give people time to gamble afterwards. Not surpingsly, you exit into the casino and not the parking lot. A by the numbers performance but I give them credit for not doing a greatest hits type show. Before doing the last song, Donald announced "this is the last of the Mohegans." After the song, he apologized for the joke. Maybe he was afraid of getting scalped by a native.
User: IHPF | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Hutch- No thanks.
Oh, and for those of you who haven't figured it out yet...long-island-dude and z are indeed, the same (asshole) person. I saw that one from a mile away.
User: joey in PA | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Notes on Camden show,the sound quality there sucks,the first set was great...then someone slipped a mickey in my wife's drink,I had to miss the whole second set because the asshole security people were going to have me arrested.I love the Dan,it was a real shame that this happened at this type of show. She was in line to get a beer when the house light went out,they played some jazz song?Aja was awesome.I tried to find her @ our seats she was trashed we fiqured out after someone drugged her.
I waited 3 years, $150.00 for shitty seats.and only got to see the first set.I hope the Godwhacker gets the slimeball that ruined my night.
Pissed off in PA
User: Moll The Mistress of Mayhem | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Greetings from Hooterville everyone!!
SteveeDan, Happy belated Birthday!!!! *hugs and kisses*
FIFE, I lost your E-mail. Please please please write me again!!!
Re post # 4337, How about I "touch" you ;-) Or has it been so long since you had the sweet stuff that you've forgotten what to do with it? lmao
Wild Bill, I stole your sweater. I thought it was the least you could do since you left me at the alter! * mmmmmwwwwwwaaaaaaaaahhhhhh*
Panetary potent-ate of destiny, so babe you can either sit around and wait to die, or decide to live. Try visiting a Veteran's Nursing Facility or a Children's hospital. It doesn't ever take me long to remember the blessings God has betwowed on me once I am there. I suppose we Kentuckians are just damn friendly folks.... Go figure? lol lol ;-)
Speaking of sweet stuff, Hey BB and Fingers *kisses* to ya both!
St. Al, you are still the best looking man in North America
off to put corn in the freezer and pine for Spike..
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Feff the Fotographer's Fotos of Jones Beach.......
http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b328055be419
ygk
User: Hutch | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Great idea Clas. And while you're at it why don't you get Web Boy and that dude that used to flame the hell out of everyone on the old Guestbook to submit something too.
User: bad sneeks | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Thanks to all for the advice on NYC - After careful consideration of time constraints, travelling distances, logistics etc I have now changed my trip to go to the show in the centre of NYC instead (Roseland) on the 13th of September -Anybody going to that one ?
User: king of the world | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: LI Dude revealingly wished death on WB for swearing. I realize that WB's wishing death on God, apparently, but he, unlike LID, wouldn't wish death on someone for using a word. Thanks for wanting him out of his misery, but he sounds pretty chipper to me. And what about being erudite means that you have to limit your language, and avoid using words which best express your thoughts and feelings... and isn't he the best and only judge of which words those would be?
I guess we've all spent a little too much time responding to that one little remark, but what the hell. And I felt like going on a dumb pontificating binge... so sue me.
User: Dr. Fill | Month: 7 | Day: 26
Message: Well, during the night I had some problems finding the right words, frankly, I had no idea what to say to keep you guys motivated and inspired.
Then, and it was a pure miracle, my Grandmother, dead since long ago, came to me, whispered, in my ears, the Daily Words of Wisdom.
But I am not sure if that's a Banjo.
Go figure:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill
Or click the link above.
User: SteveeDan (another way to spell 'sarcasm') | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Yeah LID -- I don't know if I can live without your unique viewpoints until next summer ... and I also can't wait to hear you sing ...
Oh never mind ... he's gone ... he'll never read this ...
Aw fuck.
SteveeDan
User: C @ W | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: long-island-dude - why don't you join us on the Guestbook CD? We're about to put together the 4th one. You'll find the previous CD-songs as MP3's at the this board's frontpage. It would be great if you could participate with a song or two.
More info:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/sketchesandstrangeloops
Or just click the URL above.
If you wanna get motivated, visit Dr. Fill;
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill
User: JustKatyDanFan | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message:
Hey, fellow SD Fans!
No one posted about the Philadelphia show at the Tweeter Center?
Technically, this show was in Camden, NJ, but it's just a short ferry ride across the river from Penn's Landing in Philly.
The show was GREAT.......and not only that, Walter told us it was the BEST SHOW YET!! (I only had a second of wondering whether he's said that at every show; later he said plenty to reassure us that we were, "it!")
It's the first time I've seen them live. Of course I was with hubby ElSupremo (Michael C. Packard, formerly of Texas, now of Pennsylvania) and he saw them years ago. We missed them last time and were sick about that...leaving PA just when they got here and leaving Texas just when they got THERE! Bad luck! But not this time.
We had great seats, and it was a great line-up of tunes. No real surprises, since we knew the basic set ahead of time. Since no one has posted the set, I'll post it for you: (At least I don't think anyone did, if I missed that, excuse the re-post!)
Aja (very long version, wonderful!)
Time Out of Mind
Godwhacker
Caves of Altamira
Black Cow
Babylon Sisters
TIMTM
Slang of Ages
Peg
Home At Last
Janey Runaway
Parkers Band
Kid Charlemagne
Haitian Divorce
Don't Take Me Alive (the crowd went wild here, not least of all, me!!)
Hey Nineteen
Josie
And then they stopped.
And came back.
And played two more:
My Old School and FM (no one could possibly sit down by this point!)
The band was great together, it was good to see Cornelius up there, and also Tom Barney, and the drummer, well, as we all know, they found a GEM in him. What a solo he did!! All of you still in line to see them, you are in for quite a treat watching him all night (as if any of us can take our eyes off Don and Walt for long). Jon Herrington was also right on! And Walter's playing was superb, that was a highlight for me.
Walt kind of walks around, looking so comfortable, I love to watch him, quiet confidence, no problems, just having fun, but you can tell he's thinking all the time, just not 'stressed'. I love that little swagger to the side he kind of does, to the beat. And whoever said they enjoyed his singing of HD and SOA, I agree.....it was so good!!
And Donald, well....what can you say about Donald; he defies description. He, too, just enjoyed himself thoroughly and his voice is holding up very well, honestly!
I will never forget just how AWESOME they were....how PERFECT they were..how DON & WALT they were!!
There's no one like them, as 'we' all know!!
Next up, Atlantic City this weekend??
Just Katy
Just Dancing...
Addendum by El Supremo: 100 years from now, Great-great grandchildren will wonder about any Great-great-grandparents who DIDN'T BOTHER to go see such an icon as SteelyDan! Saludos!
User: long-island-dude | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: To z and NYB:
Z thinks I do not like WB's style because it does not have an overdriven sound, although I made no such assertion. I agree with what z has said; in fact, it's very well said. By the by, LZ was my first concert in 1972 - I don't think I've cued them up in the past two decades. Also, StAl has seen HL and knows he puts on a good show. I only mentioned them having seen them recently - they are not my favorite band, ok?
NYB has stressed the importance of the musicality, the songwriting as being way more important. I agree. You then assume that I do not prefer WB's playing because it is not fast. I said no such thing.
It is almost midnight on the East coast, and I will keep my word that in the morning I won't be there no more.
One could do a heck of a lot worse than be a devoted dan-fan. I admire your tenacity and dedication. I've enjoyed the discourse - hey this is a forum isn't it? Many comments have rejuvenated my interest in the dan. I hope to check in with y'all next summer.
User: NYB | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Long Island Dude,
I'm glad that you agree with my assertion that the technical ability to
play an instrument does not equate to the ability to write an exceptional
song. Much of instrumentality is dexterity combined with theoretical
knowledge. But this alone cannot bring the musician to the next level,
which is to compose an interesting song. Fagen and Becker may not be
virtuoso instrumentalists (don't get me wrong though, they are VERY GOOD)
but they have something more important than the physical dexterity to
play continuous 32nd notes, THEY HAVE AN INTERESTING AND UNIQUE
PERSPECTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO SONGWRITING and this is WAAAAAYYYYYY MORE
IMPORTANT than the physical ability to run the frets or to fire off
multiple scales on the keyboard at lightning speed.
The ability to cook a great meal involves more than speed of execution.
First you have to what you want to cook and how you want to cook it.
There are several hundred ways to cook eggs, some are more interesting
than others, some are simply marvelous, and some are truly timeless works
of art. And art involves more than the tools of the trade and the ability
to use them, art is based on inspiration.
Take a look at the works of Bob Dylan. The actual chord progressions and
notes are relatively simple, but when combined with the lyrics that only
Bob can write the song transcends the simplicity of it's structure and
becomes something much more. This is the skill that great artists have,
and Donald Fagen and Walter Becker have it.
NYB
User: oleander | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: LID--Those damn Greek philosophers! They were wusses, snivelers, and derivative to boot! (just kidding. Say what you wish & don't feed the naysayers.)
wormy--send me your addy and your wish is granted.
Hutch--I'll be looking for you. Maybe we can hook up for dinner before the gig--e me!
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Hutch: I'm having that same dream...
StAl: You can tell your buddy that Toyota is working on a ZERO EMISSION (i.e., no CO2, no CO, no particulates, no ozone, no parially combusted hydrocarbons, no sulphuric pollutants) fuel cell car:
http://www.evworld.com/databases/shownews.cfm?pageid=news030203-05
User: major dude | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: hey sd fan's howza bout some friggin set lists?!?!
thankyouverymuch . sd fan from memphis
User: Hutch | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: z - Well said. A couple of years ago StAl set up a deal where we could ask a question directed to one or more of the principles over his web site. I asked WB what or who influenced his laid-back (for want of a better word) style of soloing. He replied that it was just the general influence of the tradition of "back of the beat" players in jazz and blues. I enjoy his approach and his playing the more I listen to it. And let's not forget that, in one of those music rags, he said that DF was quite the task master in the studio when it came to breaking down what those lead parts needed to sound like for the overall picture.
Two days till Manassas. I'm going through my pre SD show ritual... good relaxicants and the headphones on. EMG just finishing up now. What a great album. Deserves a Grammy.
Okay. I said it!
I'm up for some surprises at the show. I just have this image of them starting the second set with The Steely Dan Show and then blasting right into Lunch With Gina. Carlock and Barney (no, not that one) are generating some major funk and...
Well, I can dream can't I?
fezo - Glad to hear you're going. Hope to see you there.
Hutch
User: DACW - still can't pay the price of gasoline and meat | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Jimbo: Yes, I was bleary eyed this morning - I never watch VH1 or much network programming for that matter...don't know how I stumbled upon it, but the Zevon program was riveting. The new album will be a gift to himself, fans, and life in general...he's been payed back in part by seeing his new grandchildren...may his creative rejuvenation continue and with any luck rejuvenation of his body...
User: z | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Someone saying I'm LID? It must be my arch-nemesis RB.
I don't care, put me down or whatever, but don't attribute any comments by someone who listens to HL,LZ and the like to me.
But this does bring up an aspect of EMG which is kind of problematic.
One thing SD has always included on LPs and concerts is the use of overdriven guitar solos.
DF mentioned in an interview that SD would sound like a lounge band to most people if they didn't have the presence of the loud, virtuosic, heavily overdriven sound of the rock and/or roll lead guitarist.
WB (to his credit) doesn't use overdrive too much (on EMG, only GB)and relies more on taste and blues feeling to get over on his solos.
The taste of the vast majority of rock and/or roll listeners (unfortunately IMHO) seems to lean toward the Jimmy Page, Eric Crapton, Jiminy Hendrix style of playing, and the quieter, tasteful style of WB is denounced as "the guy can't play, he sucks" description.
I, personally, like the idea of very little distortion on EMG, but I'm a jazz guitarist and never use it unless someone practically points a gun at my head.
The fact that WB constantly bends strings, plays blues licks, and uses blues style vibrato on his single string playing, tends to distance him from jazz guitar playing and he says as much in an interview in one of the guitar rags when asked if he played jazz guitar on EMG.
Yet when asked who his favorite guitar player was in DB, he mentioned Grant Green, who was definitely a jazz guitarist (as well as a funk pioneer- what they feel necessary to describe as "acid jazz" nowadays).
This brings to mind the unthinkable thought that music (jazz) can still be great music, even though it doesn't win Grammys, get you into the R&RHOF, or attain commercial success, and we don't want to tax the cortex with that type of thinking- might lead to having an original thought or two, always a bad thing in this day and age.
However, when asked who his favorite guitarist was in the aforementioned guitar rag, he mentioned 3 blues players who the subscribers would feel more comfortable with, I'm sure.
Anyway, what Herington does and what WB does are two different things, and while one obviously requires more technical virtuosity, that doesn't mean the other doesn't have its place musically in the SD show.
Even his vocals have a place- imagine DF doing SOA?
User: Aja.........................another day | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Oh Aussie, I was just looking for an excuse to administer another swat...... ;o) There will definitely be another trip out East; I had too much fun to let another 3 or so years go by. Give my love to Utah, and tell her I can't wait to raise another cocoa shell with you both!
The Jones Beach 'fest was definitely the fest to end all fests, thanks to Lady Bayside, and New York is hands down the best place to see Steely Dan. Steely Dan references are everywhere. Having been a SoCal Gal for most of my life, I wanted to have a real "New York" experience for the 4 days I was there, and the city didn't disappoint. (cue "An American in Paris" theme....)
My New York jaunt was off to a good start when I got off the airplane, and Spike Lee was getting on (a New York character-good omen). I found out my hotel was in Hell's Kitchen; they didn't advertise THAT on the website. Fortunately Hell's Kitchen isn't what it used to be, but it didn't take much imagination to see that the hotel had once been a flophouse. My room had a view of the tenement out back, and overlooked a small space filled with garbage. I kept the window shut the entire time. Soon I was picking up New York habits, like crossing the street any time I damn well felt like it, as I learned the grid and tried not to do touristy things, like standing on street corners staring up at the tall buildings.
Before the show I had a few hours to kill, so I walked around the Upper West Side in a little top and capris (no, I didn't do this intentionally, it's just what I happened to put on. Like I said, the weekend abounded with Steely Dan references). One thing they DON'T show on "Sex and the City" was how much Carrie Bradshaw would get hassled walking around in some of her see-through/mini-skirted/bra-revealing outfits. Mine was 10x more modest than anything she puts on, and I still collected 1 marriage proposal, 1 date with a musician in Central Park, 1 pick-up from an Italian guy who loved the bright colors I was wearing, and countless whistles and honks from passing cars. Needless to say, this doesn't happen in Southern California. Must be the water.
Then I took the Long Island Railroad (complete with killer jazz band playing in the station) out to Jones Beach, where I met Lady Bayside and Lisa G.! Lady B had gone to town to set up a great fest, with a beautiful spread of veggies, fruit, a grill, and of course, libations and sensations. Soon other GB danizens turned up: Hoops, ed beatty and daughter, Aussie and his beautiful wife, YGK, Pete Fogel and his wife, and then the zombies in cocoa shells began flowing! I'd love to write what came next, but after 3 zombies on an empty stomach, I'm not exactly sure. I do remember it was one hell of a party, and photographs the next morning revealed midriff baring, crotch shots (not mine), fez wearing, and other things that stagger the mind.
Onto the show! Since it's been written about so thoroughly, the only thing I'll add is that Don and Walt seemed to really be enjoying themselves. As always, the band was tight as a watch. Hearing "Aja" was pure joy, and even some of my less favorite songs (My Old School, Hey 19) sounded fabulous. It was a pleasure worth flying 3000 miles for!
After that, Lady B generously opened up her aunt's house to us on the north fork of Long Island. What a complete change from the city! Lady B, her wickedly funny beau, YGK and I spent the day antique shopping and strolling through the seaside town of Greenport, which was straight out of an Eastern Seaboard calendar. Of course, we had to wrap up the day with seafood and Rolling Rock beer on the dock, followed by winetasting.
Last day in the city: I wandered around Rockefeller Plaza, got my Lord on at St. Patrick's Cathedral, then took the subway down to SoHo and met Lady B and Beau. By now I'm wearing black and almost navigating the subway system like I know what I'm doing. We met at a cafe that would merit a visit from the Sex and the City girls. Dulce le leche french toast, sangria, and best of all, New York atmosphere! YGK joined us after brunch and we spent the afternoon enjoying the lively SoHo atmosphere (with a nod to Bleecker Street and Dean and Deluca).
Lastly, I couldn't visit New York without paying my respects to the WTC site. It was more a gut feeling that I couldn't put into words. I looked into the huge, gaping hole that is left (now cleaned up and being rebuilt) and tried to picture the two enormous towers that had once stood there, the rescue personnel that had rushed into the towers, and what sort of evil could have carried out such an act. It was emotionally overwhelming, and I had to turn away. Even at that, I realized that there isn't any way you can comprehend how horrific the scene must have been unless you were there. As we walked away, written in yellow paint on one of the closed buildings, was "Everything Must Go".
Aja
User: StAl | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: LI Dude: Contrary opinion is welcome and encouraged. Takes a certain amount of guts to come onto a fan site and complain about the very topic the website is dedicated to.
In fact I've taken a fair bit of heat for not taking a more heavy-handed approach but alas, all discussion is good. The difference, I suppose, between being a fan and a fanatic...
Go under the knife tomorrow. Hope the doc gives me some GOOD drugs. Better yet, I hope I'm in good enough shape to get to Dallas... May be away for a while. Have fun. Play nice.
StAl
User: long-island-dude | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: To StAl: I have found your comments insightful and not incite-full. You were able to offer some constructive ideas without taking things personally and I appreciate that. I did revisit the SD Aja DVD and was reminded of the many subtle and powerful contributions of WB, particularly in the writing and sonic aspects of the production. IÆm sorry, it will take me some time to overcome my aversion to his vocals.
I apologize to everyone else for piercing your insular community to offer honest constructive criticism. IÆm not sure anyone set me straight, or that you are through disparaging Huey Lewis, Amy Grant, Barney, or me for that matter. I am reminded that "fan" is actually short for fanatic, someone marked by a sometimes irrational zeal.
As Socrates said, ôThe unexamined life is not worth livingö. Maybe you can start disparaging the Greek philosophers now.
User: Aussie | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Aja: Sorry, when I was posting initial impressions I was exhausted from the drive back to NYC from Southampton and missed typing your name on the list of notable attendees. No doubt your presence was appreciated and you were an absolute riot during the pre and post parties. Thank you so much for the BBB (I loved the swats) I shall cherish it for the rest of my days. My only regret is that your flight back to California came so soon so I didn't get the chanse to enjoy the city with you. Utah thought you were terrific by the way. I hope there's less time elapse until we next meet again. Glad to read you're back home safe and reeling in the SHEAVES. Be well lovie!
Yours,
Aus
User: Jimbo | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: St.Al-Kudos for setting long island dud straight on Steely Dan, Huey Lewis and the subject of the "F" word. He should remember it's not an Amy Grant or Barney concert.
I'm glad that many enjoyed the concert, I'm just sorry that there were a few out there trying to spoil the party with negative comments that made no sense.
Warren Zevon's Cd comes out tommorrow. Did anyone see the VH1 documentary on the making of his final album last night? It was poignant and very moving. Hearing samples of his final work as well as seeing his friends, family and his attractive girlfriend. Nice. There were,of course the clips from his last appearance on David Letterman. I hope they show it again. Bruce was on the VH1 documentary as well as the Eagles, Jackson Browne and Billy Bob Thornton who introduced the documentary. Warren was in good spirits and humor, even with Dave Barry.
And yes, there was a gentler side with his kids. Especially when his daughter decided to name one of her twins after Warren.
I look forward to the CD. If there's a cuss word, I'll still buy it!
Later
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Aussie: great color..GREENBOOK...LEGII UP???
...very busy battling government beaucracies to keep legal foreign graduate students from being sent back to the Orient, and conducting a vigorous campaign to liberate my daughter from Stalag Intermediary School...back to lurk...
Remember when Huey Lewis and the News were lip-syncing "Power of :Love" at the Oscars and the recording skipped and burped - THAT was a Milli Vanilli moment...I bet D&W are still recovering from American Bandstand...
User: ps | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: I was lying about Jones beach.
both the website & venue looked shocking to me.
db
User: duncan | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Thank's for all the birthday shout-outs.
i'm feeling better now, it's not that i don't like being 37.
but several things all at once on my birthday got me down.
im ok & expecting a med sized tour tee shirt in the post very soon, the diet is working !!!
i love you all here.
where is Howard ?
User: Aja.............................in culture shock | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: YGK-I'm here! Just reelin' in the sheeves (of paper) that piled on my desk while I was in NYC. Will post after hours tonight. My e-mail was at 117% capacity when I got back, so I'm sure I missed a lot.
Aussie-I don't merit a mention as one of the attendees? I'm gonna have to give you a few more whacks for that........
Will post on my NYC adventure later-it was an unbelievably intense experience that can't be rushed through. No amount of thanks can do justice to how much Lady Bayside put into making this Danfest, and my trip, nothing short of fantastic.
Aja
User: lp | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: bad sneaks - i'm with malc - take the 'a' train - having grown up in a railroad family, we made the trip to the city from syracuse at least once a year for shopping and shows - it's a nice tour and you have a heineken with the view
thanks for the reviews all, the festivities sounded great - especially to our loving ward!
User: RoyalDan | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: SteveeDan -
Thanks for the info. I can't beleive their not playing at least Gina and Everything. I think those are the two best songs off the new cd. Kind of Steely Dan goes Californian. Laid back stuff. I was thinking they could end with it. Walk out during the ending. The band could throw out a few tasty jazz chords and there's your show. RoyalDan
User: StAl | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Two great musicians who can't read a note:
- Graham Nash
- Joni Mitchell
Oh, and LI Dude -- you broke a rule on the guestbook. No $40 words allowed. I almost broke out the dictionary on "elucidate" until I sat and thought about it for a minute...
Also, the line you're in regarding a distaste of Walter's vocals isn't terribly short. Though I really enjoy it, it took a while before I was able to appreciate 11 Tracks Of Whack. Frankly I still find it odd to hear him sing on a Steely Dan record. SLang isn't my least favorite track on the disc however.
Allow me to elucidate. Donald's voice is absolutely synonymous with Steely Dan's sound. It is as much a musical instrument as the drums and guitar. Maybe more so. You simply can't replace him and when you try people will balk. It isn't like Brian Johnson (attempting) to fill Bon Scott's shoes. The differences between Donald and just about anyone else is dramatic and anyone who attempts is doomed for failure in many people's eyes.
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Aja: home safe? Your email bounced........
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Bad Sneaks: There's an Amtrak train that leaves from Penn and is direct to Syracuse through Albany, but you get a see the Hudson all the way up to Albany. That's a 3-4 hour trip, but worth it.
If you rent a car - the time is the same, but it all depends on your budget to rent.
Bus would be the least expensive, and is the least aesthetic.....
my .02
ygk
User: angel | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Bad Sneaks: As one who has done most of the following (or at least contemplated it), here's my advice. Rent a car.
Why do I say that? The train is expensive and (sometimes) not very convenient, time wise. Then you have to make it out to the venue, which is not in Downtown Syracuse. Same thing for the bus. You do see every small town in Upstate NY (Utica, next stop, Utica) and such lovely things as Paramas, NJ, but if you have a concert to go to, take the car (and make sure you have gas in it, of course). ;-)
My 2 cents.
User: long-island-dude | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: To SteveeDan: This is America, after all. I am presenting an opinion which does not rise to the level of your analogy.
To NassauCountyPolice: No I did not take Bill's sweater. It was an entertaining comment though.
To z? : I don't do 9-5.
To NYB: I agree with your discussion of musicality. If the feeling is there, notation is meaningless. Some of the best musicians couldn't read a note. I'm not stating how good a musician I am, I was giving backround of my experiences. Others have played 30+ years ( my rival, show me my rival )and I bow to their greater experience.
I do not have any grammys. Music (playing and listening) is a hobby I prefer to keep part-time. SD most certainly deserved their grammys, in fact they were long overdue. I don't believe that Walter received any awards for his vocal performances though.
To Steven in CT: I did see the show, and I have seen many SD shows as listed in my 1st, 2nd posts.
To StAl: Thank you for your welcoming comments despite the circumstances, and thank you for some elucidating statements. Yes, the attitude is just the attitude. That was an unfair criticism, and I do recognize the difference between indifference and style.
I found your description of vulgarity entertaining as well. I just don't think it is necessary at a public performance. While I haven't seen Amy Grant live, the artists I have seen (starting with Led Zep in 1972) have not felt it necessary. Certainly a great strength of SD is in their writing, their turn of a phrase. It just did not wring true to me.
I have not seen Springsteen live, nor do I own any of his works, but I once again found your comments meaningful. I did not mean to overtly compare SD and other bands I had recently seen, it's apples and oranges. And do not deduce that I prefer theatrics over the musical presentation, far from it, and this is an important point. SD were kickin in a time without the fluff of music videos. Their musicality speaks for itself, and you will find that I have not criticized it, far from it.
To Hutch: I'm no Sunday school teacher, but after attending hundreds of concerts by professional musicians I have yet to hear others use profanity. I guess my doctor picks his nose, but I would prefer he/she not do it while I am present. And yes I am aware of reference to drug use in the songs and have no problem with this. These are great songs and these references are integral to the music.
To YGK : Just put me in the camp of people who had mixed reviews of Walter's singing. Very mixed.
And to all- if I have been viewed as a demon at your door, in the morning I won't be there no more.....
User: bad sneakers | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Hi folks
Can any of you New Yorkers help me ??
I am staying in the centre of NYC from Friday - what is the easiest way to get to the Syracuse venue ??? How long should we leave to get there etc ?? Best to take a car, train or bus ???
Is it a good venue to see our heroes ?(as if there is such a thing as a bad one)
Can't wait now - Can't wait
Signing out from bonnie Scotland
User: StAl | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Rajah: I've seen Huey Lewis 2 times, plus once as a guest at a Dead show. Huey is a riveting performer. Live he and his band puts an edge to the rather mainstream music he's (mostly) churned out over the years. Though every time I've seen Huey Lewis and the News it's been as an opening act (Doobies, Police) he's always managed to get an encore. Something that isn't too common for openers. And he's one helluva harmonica player.
The danger here is comparing one performer to another. It would have been all too easy to use the "Oh my god he's comparing Huey Lewis to Steely Dan" angle but I resisted... and it was hard...
Now, would I pay to see Huey Lewis. Depends. Would I pay to see Steely Dan. Again and again...
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Jones Beach Steely Dan Show
ôBayside Bacchanalö
Highlights.
What an evening/night/weekendàààà
I arrived at the train station just at the very moment that Aussie arrived with his Phat Phord stuffed with goodies, and we proceeded û along with his lovely wife û to parade towards the beach parking lot. We were instructed per the Queen and her lovely assistant LisaG to proceed to the ôOörgasm section of the parking lot, and begin setting up. Right next to the Bright Yellow Beetle. Visiting from San Diego was Aja whom I havenÆt seen since New Orleans Jazzfest Æ02.
I was a proud beneficiary of AusÆs ôPleazhure Passesö, and sampled his ôGin Bhuquetö and fine Colombian. I had to make sure they were all acceptable for the group at large. They were.
Then, Lady Bayside had completed her set up, and began to assemble her Zombies in the Coco Shell. Deeeeeeeeeee-lish. Perfect Zombies, and the coco shells were a big hit to make it extra Dannish: They were so good, Aja had 3 àà... Fogel and Shari showed up, and eventually so did Hoops and other crew. I met SouthofHollywood, Mr. Sam and others from the Australian contingent too many to recount àà.a truly wonderful gathering; like friends from long ago..
Hoops assembled a rousing audience for the official crowning of the Queen of Jones Beach: Lady Bayside. Long live the Queen! (Hoops, she hasnÆt let go of the tiara yet.)
A highly reverent crowd from where I was sitting; and the boys sounded better than PNC û the lighting and set where a surreal contrast to the foreboding sky behind the stage.
The evening was full of surprisesàà.Bill Charlap playing acoustic piano on Godwhacker! Actually, the PNC show didnÆt allow for extended rotations of soloists, but after Charlap took a few extremely exiting and poignant rounds on GW, Donald let each horn man blow it outàà.rip and chop and slice indeed.
Mixed reviews on Walter singingààI think he did the task; yet other tastes prefer the Donald singing sandwich onlyàà
Bizarre surprise: Donald introduced Jay Black of Jay and the Americans: Jay walked onstage then walked immediately off itàà.. ôhere he is û there he goesöààà
ygk
User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Long Island Dude has a right to his opinion, absolutely, St Al, but doesn't the admission that he attends Huey Lewis shows call his entire credibility into question? I do like the sunshine up you derierre comment on Bruce, though. Wouldn't it be outta-state to see Don in a Members Only jacket torturing the microphone stand with Walt leaning into him when he goes for brief ride on a solo? Very undignified and very much not in the Steely style. Decorum suits the boys.
User: StAlphonzo | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Long Island Dude: Brother, your opinion is more than welcome on this message board. I always respect contrary opinion.
However, you're missing a few points. In a MAJOR way I might add.
Regarding "BlasT Attitude" and "Malaise": This is most definitely their style. Has been since 1972. If you want an artist to blow sunshine up your ass at a concert, might I suggest Bruce Springsteen. Check their website, read the interviews, watch the videos and LISTEN to the music. If you do all this you'll clearly understand the difference between indifference and style.
Regarding vulgarity: Perhaps you'd be more comfortable at an Amy Grant show? You've got to be kidding? Did Walter say the "F" word? OH MY GOODNESS!
Besides, I say there is no such thing as a "Bad Word" only bad usage. So if I say you're a fucking asshole -- that's bad. If I say you're the you're one bad-assed mother fucker -- that's a compliment (usually). The word "Fuck" is not the issue here. You've been brainwashed by the establishment. Get over it. For more on the most versatile word in the English language, listen to this:
http://www.boldra.com/images/incoming/y2001_1sthalf/?f=fword.wav
Everybody goes to a show expecting something. I'm not entirely sure of what your expectations were? Comparing live acts is something I steer clear of. You mention Gabriel who arguably puts on the finest live show you'll ever experience in 2 hours. Steely Dan lets the music and the musicians speak and leaves the histrionics to the Peter Gabriel's and Huey Lewis's of the world. I prefer it that way.
Nice color everyone on Jones Beach. Bill, sorry to hear someone stole your sweater. My uncle, who is an ex-cop, always told me the criminal type he hated the most was a thief. He reasoned the pedophile had a serious emotional problem which he/she couldn't help without some medical attention. But a thief was simply a low-life form of scum who makes the choice to take something that isn't theirs. They don't need to do it, they just do...bastards...
User: Hutch | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Ole - Hope to see you in Manassas. I'll be in the left orchestra section (as you're facing the stage) about seven rows back from the front. We're in the inside aisle seats. Are you and RoyScam hooking up?
Long Island Dud - "I secretly hoped a lightning bolt would put him out of his misery." Nice sentiment buddy. Real nice. Real FUCKING nice.
Oh yeah, did you notice the reference to "fine Columbian" in Aussie's post. That's refering to DRUGS you know. Now there's another thing that my Sunday School teacher would surely disapprove of at a concert. I don't know what this world is coming to.
Oh yeah. Remember that album "Abbey Road" by The Beatles. That one really stunk didn't it? That John Lennon guy was a pretty good songwriter but he really should have let McCartney do all the vocals.
And I've been playing guitar for 35 years, so I should know.
Hutch
User: wormy | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: aussie - auss some color as usual
felt I had attended the event myself
AND GREENBOOK!!! YES YES YES!!!!
keep working on them Pete - Lunch and EMG next
should hear them soon dropped into the setlist
panties getting ready to bunch in proverbial wad
so is there an extra pleasure pass for a southern topsoil dweller?
I'd love an old Fagen radio station window decal Ole or Neg Gal if you still have any
clas - I am working on 2 compositions, you will see one of them when I figure out a medium to use for recording
the new Radiohead is quite good
more song structured than the way out excesses of past jaunts
may buy tickets for REM today
giddy as a school girl
wormbraininvain
User: C | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: So, unconditional love is the keyword then.
User: Steven in CT | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: I'm so glad to hear that my SIS friends got to enjoy another super show at Jones Beach. Sip the wine, my friends. Life is short and our time here is precious. Creating pristine memories is good use for the time.
And bravo for not letting stolen shirts or nay-saying critics spoil a good time.
(Some folks will do anythings for attention. Like me. I have to head over to the Van Halen bulletin board to say negative things about their last show that I didn't go to, just to get some attention from their devoted fans. Sad, huh? [Only I'm kidding.])
User: Dr Fill | Month: 7 | Day: 25
Message: Oh well, I was about to say "don't mind Bill, he's from Long Island"... but that wouldn't be such a good idea, would it?
---
I've been busy, sat up all night trying to find words, words that could motivate you guys to make some music...
Here's Dr Fill's Daily Words of Wisdom
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill
Or just click the link above.
User: NYB | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: What the fuck am I doing up this late?
Long Island Dud...
Musicians like you never cease to bore me. According to your theory,
the ability to make great music depends on your ability to teach the
dry subject matter of music notation and theory. The fact that I haven't
taught the subject doesn't mean that I can't play the instrument but
that's niether here nor there.
The real issue when it comes to music is, how good are you at putting
your ideas and emotions into a musical format. I've heard many great
musical technicians who can play anything you ask them to play but when
called upon to develop music of thier own generally put out some fairly
forgettable stuff. How do you account for this?
P.S.
If you're such a great fk'n musician where are your grammies pal?
Where are your platinum albums? What is your place in the archives of
music history? How dare you question the ability of Fagen and Becker
my friend? You're nothing more than a peasant throwing stones at the
castle bro.
"You can joust at windwills with that old fender guitar" -James McMurtry
User: C @ W | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: long-island-dude - oh man, whatever you do, don't say the things you say here over at the Blue Bore. They'd crucify you.
Where's Howard? Busy tuning his bloody piano?
Wormy - are you in for a song for the GBook CD? I don't remember if there's a post office in the City of New Orleans, but if you take that looong bridge over to Slidell, you'll find one (don't take the wrong ramp, I don't wanna see you end up in Mandeville).
Malc? I am pretty sure there are a post office in Manhattan, me and Lena found one somewhere around West 34th street, when we were about getting stamps for postcards.
I'll get back with a map.
Hutch?
Gone with the wind.
---
Is it vacation time over there?
User: long island dude = z ? | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: long island dude- Time for bed. You don't want to be late for your "9-5" gig. Do you?
User: SteveeDan | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: Hey long-island-dude ...
Save it for another guestbook where the people might care about what you say. Right about now, your left foot is on fire ... so, like, don't reach for the gasoline, OK? ... Unless you like that sort of thing.
I mean, you're entitled to your opinion, that's for sure ... but, what you are doing by expressing it more than once is similar to going onto a Jewish site and saying that you thought that Hitler wasn't so bad.
Give me a Break.
User: long-island-dude | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: NYB,
I'm glad you enjoyed the show.
We just have different tastes. Walter's singing was quite simply torture as far as I'm concerned. You enjoyed it - I didn't.
You thought Walter played well - I didn't. I'm sure he has made major contributions to the band and the songs, but the guy can't play.
Maybe you have messed with a guitar for 20+ years, but I've played one. I have taught for 6 years, have recorded for friends, performed in classical concerts and for weddings.
Now Jon Herrington can play (although Drew Zing was more fun to watch). And Larry Carlton was killer. I would have been a happier camper if they took Jon out of the holster more, and put Walter in it.
Hey, he's a co-founder of the band so I guess he thinks he's entitled. I just remember seeing them in New Jersey a few years back when he came out with his solo album. When he played a song from it and sang, people stampeded to the concession stands.
And I am and always will be a SD fan. Perhaps constructive criticism helps, perhaps it doesn't. Maybe 100 more fans will weigh in saying how much they enjoyed Walter's singing and he'll sing 4 songs for you next year. Enjoy them.
User: Nassau County Police | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: NY Bill: long-island-dude is the guy that stole your sweater!!
User: NYB | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: Aussie,
See post 4309.
I'm glad you mentioned the background graphics and the babe choir.
I was equally impressed by both.
Orchestra Section A, Row B, Seat 14 was my locale for the show.
User: NYB | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: Long Island Dude,
From one Long Islander to another I've just got to ask you, what concert
were you at on 8/22/03 because it wasn't the concert I went to bro.
Blase' attitude? I thought Donald and Walter were pretty animated on
stage. I especially liked it when Donald stood next to Walter and played
his melodica. Also, it's pretty well known that Walter represents the
more earthy, street side of Steely Dan. When he referred to New York
fans as "The best fuckin' fans in the world" he probably wasn't referring
to you anyway so why be offended?
Walter's version of "Hiatian Divorce" and "Slang of Ages" were absolutely
great and I enjoyed them. The jokes that Donald and Walter threw out
during the show were hilarious and the VERY UNEXPECTED appearance by one
JAY BLACK was way cool. Walter's playing was fairly impressive (hey I've
been messing around with my guitar for 20-plus years too bro...) and
Donald's voice pretty strong. I feel I got more than my money's worth from
this show, so much so that I plan on attending the Roseland and Mohegan
Sun dates if I can still get tickets.
And don't tell me you weren't standing up with the rest of us clapping
your hands and dancing at the end of the show Dude. You lie if you say
you weren't, THE WHOLE AMPHITHEATER WAS!
Thanks to Donald, Walter, and the whole band for a fantastic concert that
I won't ever forget!
(And to the guy who was sitting next to me who stole my $65 Steely Dan
Tour sweater while I was on my feet clapping at the end of the show,
enjoy it. The only memory you will ever have of this event will be the
fact that you stole something during it. I can't think of a worse
punishment than that. I'll replace the sweater at the Roseland date,
but how will you rid yourself of your petty historical legacy? My guess
is you won't.)
User: Aussie | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: An Evening with Steely Dan at Jones Beach Ampitheatre, Wantaugh, NY, last Friday August 22, 2003 anno domini.
First, major kudos to Lady Bayside for busting her hump in ensuring an phenomenal DanFest in the parking lot outside the stadium. Her Zombies from a coco shell were a huge hit, as were the variety of delicacies neatly laid out, Martha Stewart style, on a well dressed table.
The cast of characters, YGK, SouthofHollywood, Little Wild One, Ed and his lovely charming daughter Laura, Hoops, Pete Fogel and Sharri, the Australian contingency, LisaG, and a whole host of others made the event even more memorable.
Weather threatened but Mother Nature never delivered the goods and the ponchos never made it out of our Audi TT.....but the digital camera SURE did, and from our front row seats were able to get a few great shots of the babe choir, Walter, and one slightly out of focus one of Donald in action. I hope to be able to post these in conjunction with Hoops as soon as he gets the Jones Beach Danfest website up to share with you all, my pleasure.....
And speaking of pleasure, I had these really professional fully laminated with lanyards "Pleasure Passes" made up for about fifty lucky Dan fans...those went over exceptionally well.....Beemer, you've got one coming your way via United States Postal Service. For the record, no one was tossed out on their butts for wearing these (the disclaimer on the back of the passes would make any lawyer squeal with pleasure). I also concoted two diffrent batches of potent potables - Gin Bucket and a Rhum Bucket....Ed and the others will probably post later attesting to the lethal yet pleasureable potency of these Dan Inspired libations.
After a few hours of hard partying before the show, the crowd slowly made their way inside the Ampitheatre. From the looks of things the show was compleatly sold out. I bought the Greek coffee cup Tee shirt in pastel blue for myself and for my wife the wonderwaif inspired Steely Dan baby tee-shirt in pastel pink....both look great.
Before the show, Pete Fogel told me he heard the boys rehearsing Green Room during tune up, but it never made the set list....oh well.
The show was amazing. Same set list as all others I believe. The sound quality, even for us in the front row could not have been any better....crystal clear and loud. I cannot get into a song-by-song review as your faithful and humble narrator was influenced by many drinks, fine Columbian smoke, deloodin, etc. plus I had not taken any notes during the entire show at all.
Mr. Carlock is not from this world...he whaled away with robotic precision, and never mis-hit anything from his impressive drum kit (Paiste cymbals).
The background graphics were all tastefully done, and at some points resembled those that may be seen at a Pink Floyd or Allman Brothers concert (meaning trippy).
John Herrington: What a talented musician! His riffs were scalding hot and he played with such ease....looked very relaxed the entire time and acknowledged the appreciative crowd after every tune he smoked. Simply amazing.
Walter Becker: never sounded bettre. The look on his face was one of a man having the time of his life. His playing was equally superb. He and Mr. Herrington marry their distinctive playing styles seamlessly and it works very nicely....killer smoooooth.
The Horns: These guys lit the place on fiyahh.
Jim Pugh: Incredible. Who would ever think a trombonist could be positively accretive to a stellar line up of musicians? This guy takes you to school and keeps you after for detention, just to make sure you understand.
On the sax: Walt Weiskopf. Holy shit. One word: WOW.
Cornelius Bumpus: Soul emanates from this man's every pore:Amazing
On trumpet, Michael Leonhart: terrifically laid grooves, also imbued with plenty of funk and soul.
The Babe Choir: Midriffs exposed except for Ms. Mizelle. Incredibly sexy trio grooved so hard, sang so well (Parkre's Band was deliciously rendered)that yours truly was afflicted with lockjaw. Before the start of their first encore, I presented each lady with two dozen red roses, these were very well received especially for Cynthia Calhoun who lifted the bunch over her head and thanked yours truly.
Donald Fagen: No flubbed lines. Rocked mine and everybody's world who was present. Plenty of banter with audience, and he, like Mr. Becker looked relaxed and very happy to be performing...terrific job (Caves of Altamira was nailed by Mr. Fagen...amazing)
The entire Band: I thought they sounded better than they did in their Two Against Nature Tour. Better show all around. Go see it. Worth every piaster you can borrow.
I left plenty of additional colour out of this first salvo since I'm just getting back from our beach house and I'm exhausted, but I will post more impressions/granularity tomorrow.
Finally, to all who made the Bayside Bacchanal what it was: Thank you, and to all those wonderful Dan fans I met for the first time: Pleasure meeting and partying with you all!
Yours truly,
Aus
post scriptte. Bill: where were you????
User: W1P | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: Springsteen 8/17 -- I'd put the crowd at about 85% capacity -- with the Top Deck seats pretty sparse. Great crowd, great energy!
Last night at Canes -- no GBers BUT Love Bob showed up, hung all night long and we ended up having breakfast until 4:30 with a bunch of folks. I'm beat.
We just learned that our 9/13 show in Agoura will feature the return of Marvette "Lion King" Williams for the show stopping Great Gig in the Sky
User: long-island-dude | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: Certainly profanity is an issue and it is uncalled for, but my major points are the lack of energy, the malaise, the blase attitude.
There wasn't one song played on tempo, nothing really kicked except Herrington's all-too-few solos (the guest keyboard player from NYC was also excellent).
Just needed to vent my disappointment. I've posted positive reviews for the Gabriel and Huey Lewis concerts. The artists got the crowd going, they kicked it and they were into it.
One swallow doesn't make summer - maybe it was an off show. I've certainly enjoyed them over the years. I just wouldn't recommend spending your dough to see them live.
User: Karen | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: Hi, everyone. I'm new to this group.
My husband and I saw Steely Dan at Hersheypark on August 20. The show was AWESOME!!!! It was the first time we'd ever seen them. We wanted to go to Atlantic City to see them this weekend, but it's not going to work out.
The musicianship was incredible on the 20th. The songs sounded just like the record and the band was so tight and together! They really knew what they were doing. We were pretty happy with the selections they chose as well.
Anyway, I just thought I'd post a little review of the show.
Karen
User: Be Born Again Barry | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: long Island dude- Yeah...when Donald sang "They don't give a fuck about anybody else" on "Show Biz Kids, I stopped listening to them as well.
Re: Jones Beach- What right does a Rock n Roll band have to curse on stage? How dare they!
See you later...back to church.
Barry
User: oleander | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: Apparently they (WAMU) conflated Nissan with Merriweather Post. Ben Folds is playing at the latter the same night with Tori Amos.
Oh well.
User: long-island-dude | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: Of course I meant their pre-1979 recorded works, although I would be open to listening to any recorder player covering the dan as well :)
User: oleander | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: Hey!
Anybody know anything about this? From the WAMU website (http://www.wamu.org/tickets/np-steelydan.php):
NISSAN PAVILION
Steely Dan
with Ben Folds
Wednesday, August 27 at 7:30pm
OFFICIAL RULES
To enter to win 2 ticketsto Nissan Pavilion with featured guest Steely Dan on WEDNESDAY, August 27th, 7:30pm, you must submit your full name, telephone number, email address (optional but preferred) on the entry form below and submit it. Only one entry per person is permitted....etc.
...??BEN FOLDS??
User: long-island-dude | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: I have been a huge danfan for many years. I have enjoyed playing guitar for over 20 years in my spare time. I have seen five concerts a year ( this year - Peter Gabriel, Huey Lewis ) and really enjoy many types of music - Pet Metheny, Herbee Hancock, Counting Crows, Kate Bush, SD.
I've seen Larry Carlton 4 times over the past 20 years, M. McDonald, the dan with Drew Zing, NY soul review, saw SD a few years ago, last year and this year.
I saw the Jones Beach Show 08-22-03, and was very disappointed. Before they took a 20 minute break, Walter Becker sang 2 songs solo. Sang is used very loosely here. His profanity was uncalled for. For supposedly erudite and well-read artists, there should be no need for vulgarity. I secretly hoped a lightning bolt would put him out of his misery.
Donald was so laid back he could have stayed in bed.
Jon Herrington is a phenominal talent that waits in the wings for his 15 seconds of fame - given when Walter stops plinking his guitar to let a real artist play.
Of course the band talent was great, but no one had the chance to shine. If you introduced the band, and played 5 or 6 tunes at half tempo you essentially got the first half of the show.
Sorry guys, but I will now reference SD thru their pre-1979 recorder works and stop patronizing the live shows.
As my mother in law says - Lot's of good luck to you.
User: | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: Molly - please touch Drew a.s.a.p
User: oleander | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: So who's going to Nissan (Manassas) this Wed.? I'll be lookin' for you!
User: SteveeDan | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: RoyalDan --
According to the reports made by many here, the song list hasn't changed at all ... with the exception that Do It Again was swapped out for Babylon Sisters.
I spoke to someone who was at the Jones Beach concert (as well as Denver, Tahoe, Paso Robles, and Costa Mesa) and said that the set lists hadn't changed. I too am curious to see if they end up playing anything different during the remaining concert performances ... we'll just have to wait and see ... so far, no changes.
SteveeDan
User: royaldan | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: Danheads: Can anyone tell me wether the band has started to play green book/gina/everything on this tour yet? I saw them early in the tour (Lake Tahoe) and they didn't play 'em that night.
Royaldan
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: z:
Tell me can you dig the latter fun tunes
EMG goes from great to greater
But Donald could use a little save face time
When upper register elevating
And if Carolyn and the ladies
Want to get in on the high notes
With Donald's falsetto in tow
Well we'll give the crowd da business
Every song must show
User: Drew | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: Molly-please get in touch a.s.a.p.
User: Stevee(Put another candle on the Birthday cake)Dan | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: Clas - thank you for my birthday message. What's going on is that we are selecting a couple of tracks for your consideration. I will get them to you as soon as I can.
Bluz - it was great hanging out with you and SOH, and DDD last night in cyberspace. Great playlist yesterday ... RTF's Romantic Warrior ... awesome.
SteveeDan
User: wormy | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: hey Beast - welcome back I too am puzzled why EMG, Lunch and Greenbook are classics and heavily missing from the setlist. and yes D&W are playing it safe with almost all Aja and scam tunes. Gabriel toured last fall with lots of new Up tunes then when it didn't go over as well with the non-initiated he backed off into mostly So and hits tunes, while the gems off the new album were few and far between
funny you should all mention steve winwood - bought the new disc
love it and was going to write it up in a review with another laid back trio - our very own YGK's Core
still waiting for those NYC reviews
wormbrain
User: 30 years on... | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message:
30 years on...Countdown to Ecstacy
played Friday
Javon Jackson..Easy Does It.."wake up everybody"(new)
Roland Kirk..Volunteered Slavery.."title"
John Lee Hooker.."i'm in the mood" vj
Willie Dixon.."walkin the blues"
Arthur Blythe..Exhale.."night train"(new)
Wayne Shorter..lp Adams Apple.."chief crazy horse"(February 1966)
Frank.."i concentrate on you"(arr. Billy May January 1967)
Antonio Carlos Jobim/Stan Getz/Gilberto.."the girl from ipanema"
Danillo Perez..Till Then.."native soul"(new)
Chick Corea..Return To Forever.."romantic warrior"
Miles/Gil Evans..Sketches Of Spain.."the pan piper"
Rickie Lee Jones..It's Like This.."trouble man"
Jimmy Witherspoon..'you ain't foolin me"
Eric Reed..E-Bop.."bouncin with boo boo(new)
Count Basie..Live At The Sands.."hello little girl"
Zan Gardner..Heres My Heart.."exactly like you"
Frank.."all i need is the girl"(duke ellington & orch.)
Sonny Stitt..Sits in With Oscar Peterson.."i can't give you anything but love"
James Moody..The Blues And Other Colors.."main Stem"
Stanley Turrentine..lp Rough N' Tumble".."feelin good"(July 1966)
Kenny Garrett..Black Hope.."2 step"(1992)
David Sanborn..Timeagain.."cristo redenter"
John Lee Hooker.."i'm bad like jesse james"
Albert Collins..Cold Snap.."too many dirty dishes"
Don't touch me with your broom,
don't let my lamp get low.
Don't let the dogs start to howlin
'cause somebody got to go.
Jazz Gillum
"The Blues What Am"
bluz
User: Led's Zep... | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: ...again, like we did last summer...
Happy Birthday Stevee Dan!
/C
User: Dr. Fill | Month: 7 | Day: 24
Message: During the night I've been busy trying to find the right words... motivation, inspiration, and things like that.
Go to:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill
Or click the URL above.
Get inspired and send your songs to me, let us make the 4th edition of the Under the Banyan Trees CD happen.
Cornyally,
Dr. Fill
User: C | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: SteveeDan - ok, send it next week then? How long does it take to get down to the post office and send the CD? Half an hour?
Molly - my Darling Deer, thanks for the pics. Great stuff. I wish I'd been there.
User: SteveeDan | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: Hi Rajah --
Are you back from "the boot" yet? I am delighted to hear that you will be down in Hermosa. See if you can drag some of the Wooners with you ... especially that Doozer of a Liverpudlian ... Slaphead (# 1) was in tow at the Tater. It was great to see the Head Wooner (ha ha).
I hope that Which One's Pink? and Led ZepAgain have a great show tonight in San Diego ... darn ... if they played next week, I might have been able to see them. By the way, W1P ... was Springsteen sold out? (or Souled out?) ... I think I know the answer to the pun.
Well, tomorrow is the kiddie birthday party. My presents came early this year ... June 10th, July 23rd, and July 24 ... with more to come. I wish every year could be like this.
Hello again to all my friends seeing Steely Dan on the east coast ...
SteveeDan
User: z | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: BWOAN- If you listen to the vocals on some of those songs on EMG that they're not playing, Pix, GB, they have DF's voice at least double tracked to give that sound of a large, high-pitched insect.
To recreate that live w/o sounding overly electronic or cheesey would be hard.
EMG itself is almost out of his range, also dangerous live.
User: SteelyFan | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: I have two tickets for Monday Night's show at Mohegan Sun. Asking face value of $70. Section LWR19, Row J, Seats 7 and 8. I live in New Jersey in the vicinity of Giants Stadium. If you are interested and live in the area to do a sale tomorrow (Sunday), please email.
User: almost gothic negative girl | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: ~ angel ~ I could be wrong about the price of shirts in Paso Robles. Didn't actually buy any there. I was with 3 people that night and they all wanted shirts so we stopped by the booth on our way in, and from where we stood we thought it said $30; the line was too long when we got there and we didn't go up real close so it could have said $35. We weren't gonna wait in line and miss the beginning of the show, so we tried to go back and buy them later after the show, but they were closed.
These 3 people gave me $150 to buy 5 shirts for them at the Tahoe gig. Three Ajas and Two EMGs (no wonderwaifs). I am pretty sure they had a $30 sticker on them in the booth at Tahoe, and I picked picked out the 5 shirts, told him I had 5, and the seller said $150, and I gave the guy 3 $50 bills and he gave me the shirts. So, ours were $30 a piece purchased in Tahoe.
Nameless Beast ~ I saw Steve Winwood on Saturday, July 5th this summer at the High Sierra Music Festival in Quincy, California. He was better than we had even hoped for. We really enjoyed him. Very good set in a spectacular atmosphere on a gorgeous night in the foothills of the Sierra three days deep into a wonderful freakin' festival. Nice to see he's kept it together.
Damn, I love live music! Get to see a friend of mine perform tonite at a little club across the street from the beautiful blue Pacific Ocean at Lover's Point. Gonna see the Dead at Shoreline on 9/19, and the Dan at the Pavillion on 10/4. That's a big 10/4 good buddy ; )
User: Beast w/o A Name | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: Well.... I don't think I've posted in a good long while... perhaps 3 years.. since the last tour.
Anyway.. Last night's show at Jones Beach was, as always, great. It was my 10th show, but not my last. I'll be at Roseland on Sat 9/13.
To see Caves live was an awesome, all too brief treat. It would have been real cool to see D + W dig a little further in the treasure chest for a few more unheard nuggets. I remember reading an interview awhile back saying they considered rehearsing "Second Arrangement" for one of the earlier tours but ultimately deciding against it. Oh well. Plus, it was pretty much the same exact 4 last tunes as the 2K tour... Kid C, DTMA, MOS and FM.
I was hoping for some more differences from the last tour, perhaps throwing a male back-up singer into the mix to add a little muscle to the backing vocals, such as they did on EMG.
They also betrayed their new material by not playing more of it. They played it safe by sticking with many of their standards. To be honest, if I never have to hear "Peg" again, I think I'd be OK with it, you know?
Other artists challenge themselves and their audiences by "defiantly" playing more new material when they hit the road. Steely Dan unfortunately avoided playing what I consider to be the three standout tracks from EMG - Lunch with Gina, Green Book and EMG. All 3 of those tunes stand up so well against their very own formidable songbook. As a fan, I believe these 3 tunes are pretty up there with their best stuff. So it was kind of sad they didn't play them. I guess I can understand not playing EMG - as it a vocally "rangy" tune to have to sing night after night. But c'Mon... wouldn't Green Book have rocked live ??
And what the FUCK is with this corporate sponsorship thing with GM - having to sign away personal information like your SSN, mother's maiden name, etc all for a Steely Dan (and GM) coffee mug or visor ?!?!??
I'm surprised D + W signed off on this. I've never seen a corporate sponsorship activity like this at any show. It's kind of offensive, especially considering their own personal politics. I know putting an expensive show on the road sometimes necessitates a little extra push, especially when ticket sales are perhaps below expectations. I mean, it's not like Robert Plant holding a can of Coke while shaking his hips to horrible solo music which samples classic Zep tunes of past glory... or Eric Clapton or Steve Winwood. But still, D + W are my fave. This was disturbing to me.
Of course, I'm a hypocrite. I signed up and got a fuckin' mug.
And too bad I couldn't follow the advice of "The Steely Dan Show" lyrics and go buy a program, as there were sadly none produced for the tour...
would've made a nice addition to my collection..
Another note... I forget who posted it recently, but someone mentioned Steve Winwood at the Beacon Theater in Oct. GO. I saw his show a couple of weeks ago at Brookhaven Amp here on Long Island with String Cheese Incident. He's playing lots of Traffic, SDG material along with his surprisingly good new material.
That's all for now... Greetings to PETE F. SHARI, PAT (You DA MAN), minorWorld (KENT) - You still out there, Man ?
Later
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: Things I Miss the Most is on top of the New and Active list under RadioandRecords AAA format, but only ONE add this week...just what the f*** is AOL Time Warner thinking putting TIMTM under AAA???????????? It's obviously an AC format recording...
Can't say I didn't provide advice to AOL Time Warner Without Ted Turner Whatever by e-mail: release PIXELEEN under AC and POP formats!!!!!!...after it's a huge hit, following with Lunch with Gina!
Rajah: Is there a glimmer of hope that Greenbook, Pixeleen (the midriff sectioon can do the high falsetto part), Lunch with Gina or the title track will end up on Leg II??
Lunch with Gina especially and Pixeleen are just made for a live concert!!!!!!!
User: W1P | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: San Diegans, Which One's Pink? tonight with Led Zepagain at Canes. Come say hi if you show up. Send a telepathic message or smoke signal if not.
User: angel | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: AGNG: I paid $35 at Paso Robles, for a regular tee-shirt. The Steely Dan "wonderwaif" style tee was $30. Is that what you got?
Bill: Would have been no doubt, if you had taken me..... ;-)
User: almost gothic negative girl | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: Steely Dan T-shirts in Paso Robles and at the Tahoe show were $30, tax included. I picked up 5 of them for friends, and it was $150. But we didn't get the onstage video backdrop treatment in California, so maybe the extra $5 per shirt is paying for that visual upgrade? Who knows.
Big thanks to everyone posting about their show experiences. Keep the reviews and comments coming folks! Can't wait to see them again in Concord on October 4th. Hope they add at least one or two new songs by then... If the set list starts to evolve I might have to figure out a way to attend the Santa Barbara show, too. I think if they want to sell these shows out and get people to attend multiple shows, a little shake-up in the setlist would be a wise and profitable move.
User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: Back back wayy back.. SteveeDan - see you at Hermosa Beach on the 31st you shameless self promoter.
Gonna rip & chop & slice.
User: SteveeDan | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: Bill - Did your date actually go with you? Or did she "weenie" out? Isn't it a kick sitting that close to the stage? You can actually catch what the musicians are saying to each other, and their cues to each other. I'm waiting for their return to California to have that experience 3 more times.
Duncan - A very Happy Birthday to you ... say Hi to Dan and to "Linda and a half" for me.
Clas - it's not laziness ... though I wish that's all it was.
Tomorrow is my son's birthday party (it's my birthday too, yeah), then we're on vacation for the first half of the week, then, it's a band rehearsal Thursday night ... followed by ...
(come on now people, ... do you really think I'm ever going to stop doing this? ... after all, I started it ...)
S H A M E L E S S .. P L U G G I N G .. T I M E ..-.. A G A I N ...
PRETZEL LOGIC'S TRIUMPHANT RETURN TO HERMOSA BEACH, CALIFORNIA
COME JOIN THE MIGHTY 11-PIECE STEELY DAN TRIBUTE BAND AS WE GET DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY AT THE BEACH. SUNDAY AUGUST 31ST, 2003 FROM 2:30 PM TO 6 PM. PRETZEL LOGIC IS HEADLINING THIS EVENT.
I hope that everyone is enjoying the shows on the east coast this week.
SteveeDan
User: planetary potent-ate of destiny | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: Be it MOM, who refuses to identify self?
("Crush With Eyeliner" by REM, playing, now) I think of little but ultimate destination. That und pointless excrutiating journeying in general direction thereof considering unique personal circumstance can be said to be occupying mine thoughts to the proverbial exclusion of all else. So there.
Every board I go on seems to have someone I communicate with who's from Kentucky. Dunno why eggasctly.
User: IHPF | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: Bill- Great review and all but..... please! You had a first row center seat and you were "thinking of not going because it might rain" I mean Bill...who are you kidding?
User: Moll | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: Wild Bill, thanks for sharing your Steely concert with us. Damn,I had no idea the T-shirts were that expensive!!! Spike bought mine for me. :-)
I have to agree with you that Jon Herington is awesome and that Keith Carlock is the SHIT... I enjoy reading the messages about everyone's Concert experiences, however for me it would be like trying to descibe making love or watching your children laugh. No matter how much I decided to share about the event it's not going to do justice to the experience.
Clas, you make me laugh... check your e-mail. ;-)
Duncan, come on babe ...ALL Birthdays are good. Much better than the alternative Sugarman. Try to remember where the parade is heading, it helps keep everything in perspective.
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: NYBill: keep it comin' ...was that an Orange County Chopper???? I can't afford a Steely Dan t-shirt - post a link for a pic shot of it...
PSA: Our server here is being used as a spam machine for the Sobig Worm - if you're a PC user and you receive an e-mail with an attachment from me or one that sez That Movie or Your Details or Wicked ScreenSaver or Approved all with an attachment RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!! Do not open!!!
The good news is that new G5 Macs and iMacs and eMacs can crank harder than Carlock - Buy one now! Velly clean American!!!! - they're (we're) the only ones left standing soon....
Next time W should say "Just Kidding" after "bring it on" Now 50% of Al Qaeda is in Iraq instead of 10%...Idiot...Rummy's gotta go for abyssmal post-conventional conflict strategy - not preparing for "low level" guerrilla warfare and terrorism...like DUH, who are we fighting here?!...
User: C @ W | Month: 7 | Day: 23
Message: Blues Beach = Coney Island
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Stevie - do you think you could get a copy of Trower's "20th Century Blues" and send it to me? Can't find it here in Sweden. Let me know and I send you money.
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SteveeDan, where's your songs? Take your lazy ass down to the post office...
And dr Fill, as usuall, has been busy trying to get you inspired, here's his Daily Words of Wisdom;
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill
Or click the URL above.
User: NYB | Month: 7 | Day: 22
Message: Jones Beach Report...
I almost didn't go. Right up until an hour before the show I still hadn't
made up my mind. The forecast was for possible thunderstorms and the
young lady I was supposed to be going with made it very clear to me that
she had no intention of sitting in the middle of Jones Beach Amphitheater
with a raging electrical storm going off all around her. I told her that
I could understand her point of view, but did she understand that I was
going to the concert no matter what the weather did?
"Sure", she said, "just sign me over as the beneficiary on your life
insurance policy before you go okay?". "No problem", I said "I'll tell
you what, I'm gonna take my motorcycle to the concert just to make it
interesting...". "Man", she said, "what am I gonna do with all that
insurance money?". "Probably find another man and send him to a concert
during a rainstorm", I said.
Anyway, it's 6:45pm and the concert starts at eight...
"FUCK IT!", I said, "I've been rained on before" as I headed out with
leather jacket and helmet in hand to brave the elements on that big v-twin
out in the driveway. I looked up at the sky just before I left,
"Sky actually looks pretty good", I said. I pulled into the premier parking field at Jones Beach at approximately 7:30pm. Still no sign of rain...
After installing the rain cover on my bike (which seemed to take forever)
I finally went through security and stood on line to buy a few Steely Dan
items. I wound up buying a sweater($60 bucks) a shirt ($35 bucks) and a
hat ($35 bucks). There's story to go along with the sweater but I'll get
to that later.
The seats were absolutely fantastic. Dead center of the orchestra section
and only one row back. This was just too good to be true. All the while
I kept looking up at the sky. Still no sign of rain. The amphitheater was
fairly full and the overall mood of the crowd was upbeat. Finally the band
came out and started playing. I could tell immediately that this was going
to be one fine concert. And then Walter and Donald took the stage and the
crowd broke out in applause. Donald looking like his daring self and
Walter looking very laid back and casual. John Herington's guitar playing
was absolutely phenominal, I mean he laid down a few solo's that were
positively blistering. Kieth Carlock ripped off a solo that had me
wondering how much force his drum set could actually take, this guy is
THE SHIT my friends, he flat-out cranks! And uh...
Oops! It just occured to me, it's 1am and way past my bedtime!
More to follow in the a.m.
(The suspense is killin' ya aint it?)
User: z | Month: 7 | Day: 22
Message: I was reading a NY magazine while waiting for the doctor to tell me that I might have had another gallstones attack, when I came upon a review of EMG.
Basically, the reviewer didn't think it was any good because it wasn't funny.
He was upset because he didn't think the lyrics were as funny as any of their previous records.
That was it.
User: Beers on the fringe | Month: 7 | Day: 22
Message: Dunc; Mate ... happy b'day heh couldna be any worse than my golf this afternoon tho' !!
User: duncan | Month: 7 | Day: 22
Message: jones beach looks nice !!
have another drink for me someone !!
my birthday was shite
still waiting for the moby to ring !
User: SteveeDan | Month: 7 | Day: 22
Message: 5 years ago, my wife gave me the best birthday present I could have ever asked for ... a son born on August 24, 1998.
Now, she's got Donald and Walter, and a few of the band members flying out to Los Angeles to celebrate with my son and I. (You'll notice that there is no concert scheduled for August 24.)
Obviously you're all invited to the "SteveeDanFest".
Don't worry though. I'll make sure they all get back to Uncasville in time for the sound check.
... And to my Australian friends Scott and Alan ... and South Of Hollywood ... Have fun at Jones Beach tonight.
SteveeDan
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 22
Message: Kyle: That image is most likely a private domain of either Kevin - the videographer - or Andy the photographer. I hang with Andy now and then as he's a local in Hells Kitchen, and I know he was contributing some images to the show. Next time I see him - maybe tonight - I will ask....
NOW: WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
It's party time folks - here we go.....the Steely Dan Show at Jones Beach. I've been informed by our Roving Reportre that the Pleasure Passes have made a successful run, and will be a notable souvenir for all who attend the Bayside Bacchanal in the Parking Lot. St. Al, you're going to chuckle when you see yours......
So I'll be the cowboy with the sandals and that funky attitude.....hope to see many of you I haven't met yet: Bill? Others.......
Aus/LadyB/LisaG: I may have a special surprise treat, I think......
ygk
User: C @ W | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: Thanks Stevee, or is it Stevie? Whoever you are, don't forget to send your music for the 4th edition of the Guestbook CD to me. You'll find my snailmail address at:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/sketchesandstrangeloops
Or just click the URL above.
User: heeeere's schtevie | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: ha pq y bd ay dunc an db est wishes !
clas, when i checked, half.com (an ebay site) had several sellers listing it, very reasonably priced. check it out...
has anyone heard the latino singer albita ? been listening to her a bit lately and she is just plain smokin'. salsa is not just a dip for cheeps...
User: Kyle | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: I recentley attended the Chicago stop of Steely Dan's tour and was very interested by one of the images displayed behind them during their show. It was of an oriental looking flower, it was on the screen throughout the duration of two of their songs I believe. I was hoping to get a picture of it online but haven't been able to find one. If anyone has any information on it please email me soon as possible. I was thinking about getting it as a tattoo. Thanks.
User: Moll | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y D U N C A N !!!!!
User: Dano | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: Ive just read YGK , Jimbos , and Aussies day trips in NYC. If ever there was a reason to see New York then thats it.Great stuff guys , and holy shit Sneakers is gonna have a F****N DOOSER of a crack.
lp , Another gem of a report, as Angel said "I felt i was right there having a beer with ya??
Wonderful stuff on the board at the minute.
Cheers
Dano.
PS. Where is Tones??
User: Dano | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: Dunc , Have a good night with the family mate.
Maybe see you in November??
Dano.
User: lp | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: janet - it was the exact same as st paul and massachusetts - scroll back a few pages, sorry, can't remember who posted it
User: C @ Work | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: Janet R. - would that be the Jackson Browne concert or the Bruce Hornsby concert?
User: Janet R. | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: Does anyone have a set list for the Manchester, NH show on 8/19?
User: Duncan | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: Sensational reporting lp
a pleasure to read !!!
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: Jones Beach is tomorrow, I'm hosting the Danfest (Bayside Bacchanal, to be precise) there are a million things to do (get the giveaways ready, shopping, polishing the candelabras, you know....) and now....
I have an extra ticket for tomorrow night. It's in the Bayside block...YGK, Aja, Lisa G, me and the SO, and the one ticket. The entertainment value of our motley crew alone is worth it.
If you weren't planning on coming to Jones Beach, get in your car. The danfest alone will be worth it, but to actually see them as well--priceless.
That being said, I'd like 85 bucks plus ticketbastard fees.
LadyB
User: | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: Clas, please stop smoking weed. It damages your short term memory and makes you eat hot fries. Not a good combo.
User: then i'm the duke of world | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: I've decided that part of my process of getting a new album is that I have to somehow be surprised by it. There has to be unexpected magic in it, coming at me out of the corner of my eye. Hence the self-encouragement to let myself resent EMG so I'll love it later. If I take for granted that I'm going to love the thing, then I won't.
("Blue Moves" by E John playing, now... his White Album.)
Tonight earlier it was EMG then Love and Theft by Dylan, which is a fun combo of B on Blonde, T Wilburies, and Leon Redbone. ONE brief moment hit me off EMG. It was the guitar solo in Lunch With Gina, which must have been by Walter, 'cause it reminds me so much of the one in J of Speed, where the guitar makes you feel you're in emotional free-fall for a blessed few seconds.
Maybe my getting of EMG will grow outward in both directions from that little moment. (Great Caleb Quaye solo right now... "One Horse Town") All my REM appreciation started from the Andy Kaufmann references in "Man On The Moon", and gradually grew from there.
Wormy--- EMG on vinyl? In US?
lp--- skeevy?
Steven in CT--- great article.
Jimbo--- I'll take a Michael Moore taking broad potshots and making mistakes over all the responsible journalists on all commercial networks.
User: to Duncan | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: Happy Birthday
Back to work now, C U 2 nite
Linda & Dan
User: C @ Work | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: Stevie - I was smoking with my neighbour, and he played the "20th Century Blues" and he played it loud, I was amazed, damn good.
But I can't find it anywhere. Not on the net, it's not mentioned on his web-page... and the record-stores haven't heard of it.
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I must say I envy you guys who's got to see the Steely Dan this summer.
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Schwinn, YGK, Hutch, Stevee and everybody, get your asses down to the postoffice and send me your material.
Dr Fill has been busy trying to motivate you guys, you can find he's Words of Wisdom at:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill
Or click the link above.
User: stevie II | Month: 7 | Day: 21
Message: a few more notes...
hutch, i'm way overdue here in thanking you again for all the steely 411, links, etc. what a source !
aja, duly bombarded here but the scourge seems to be abating. i guess it's some 14 year old punk getting his rocks on "cyber-vandalism". well, that's pretty sad picture. how banal and unsatisfying it must be... thanks for the heads up anyway...
clas, i don't have trower's "20th century blues". it's still in print. i'm almost surprised that you would like mr trower. i've found that a little trower goes a long way. beyond "bridge of sighs" and a couple of others i don't know... all of procol though, of course... btw, man. just caught jackson browne on "austin city limits", a show on u.s. public television. they had pat metheny two weeks ago. two AWESOME broadcasts. mr browne did mostly newer material and the crowd ate it up. d & w should try the concept. the faithful will rise up !
dano, that john lodge tale was great. gotta love the bluejays album...
cara, i'm sure i don't need to, but i wanted to let you know about the domestic release of shadows & light...
peace out people...
oh YEAH, "steviedan album of the week" is "streams of consciousness" by drummer max roach and south african pianist and one of my favorites, abdullah ibrahim. that's right, JUST piano and drums recorded originally in 1977, finally out on cd. you just can't beat an album with a tune called "consanguinity"...
User: steviedan | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: ah yes, my young squirmer, i remember the third row raleigh vividly. burned in my memory the meeting of yourself, ole, mr fogel, mc (btw, WHERE ?), and many other fine dansters. i recall that far better than you mentioning previously the gabriel discs, which i now do. did they charge you 14 bucks shipping on two sets ??!? still easily worth triple any pearl jam show (who incidently i saw opening on lolapalooza 92). but really, if this does end up being the last tour...
well, like brian wilson said... "wouldn't it be nice"...
because, to answer the one of inquiring tonez, unfortunately i just can't afford to break away from playing or teaching at the moment to travel to the nearest show... since the guys let the faithful raleigh walnut creek audience well...
eat cake !
steven, lp, ygk, everyone. thanks for feeding the unfortunate sons !
User: Her acid boyfriend | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: The Cincinnati Kidding - no, Stockholm.
/C
User: garden wall climber | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: I enjoyed reading LP's post. I too had a great time last night at the Manchester show. The crowd was a bit "laid back", but I was groovin' and "danced" in my seat the best I could. The place warmed up gradually. By the encores we were dancing in the back rows too!
I was impressed with Walter's singing on Haitian D. I thought his voice "went well" with the song. I kept thinking that he was like a troubadour telling us all 'bout Babs. The whole show was wonderful. So happy I was able to go.
User: GovWhacker | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: Reviews sound great - can't wait. Very wise of the Dan to avoid August in a shed venue in Texas...or their estates would have to finish the tour...
Ben Hur does have a bit of amyloid deposits...mebbe they hated other white people...despite that alarming copycat series of school shooting, teen murder rate has decreased steadily...
"Had the president pursued the war on terrorism prior to initiating military action against Saddam Hussein, as I advocated last year, it is likely that al-Qaeda and other terrorist networks would not have been able to take advantage of the chaos that now exists in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq," said Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla.
Hey, I though he said Iraq and al Qaeda weren't linked...right
I dig CNN and the NY Times in the Fiction section...
too busy to tarry here for a while...here's an example of a Government-funded agency whose bosses officials think they're f**ing Enron ...better watch out poppy:
http://www.theeagle.com/aandmnews/081703salariessoar.htm
back into the bunker...
User: angel | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: LP: It was like sitting up their with you. What a review!
Things to do in Syracuse. It was much longer for me, but I still dream of the Falafal's I had at some Middle Eastern style restaurant by SU. I wish I could remember more about the place (or if it still exists).
Oh, and check out the Erie Canal. Real cool relic from the past, that NY State has revitalized. I would love to just take a boat out and ride the entire length.
Adding my 2 cents to YGK's NYC list, I always ride the Staten Island Ferry. Best kept secret in NYC and it's FREE!!!!!
I usually then walk up through the Wall Street area (very cool, Aussie can tell you more) and then over to South Street Seaport, for touristy stuff. We then walk up to Chinatown (the best value for tourist gifts) and then to Little Italy for Dinner. Lots of funky Italian restaurants with singers, etc. Reminds me of my childhood.
Macy's is worth the look, just for the walk to Herald Square. It is right down the street from the Empire State Building (another cool thing to see, love the 30's look of the lobby of that building). You don't even have to go to the top of it, if you don't want to.
User: wormy | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: lp -so glad you enjoyed the seats. Thanks for the vibrant color - lobster red that is...
let's see, some year in october with the leaves changing...
yes the subtleties of the bands interactions are great up close
I managed to sit third row with a 18th row ticket for a Raliegh shows in 2K behind StevieD. Why I did this? The box office lady lied about released seats when I asked which I was more than happy to cough up for and sell mine and there was one no show in my row. Most of those front few row people are businessmen or have connections and get all the perks while the fans who would appreciate it get farther back. Kind of like putting a nursing home with elderly immobile nearly blind people on the nicest vista of land by the ocean.
YGK - great to do lists - I loved Mingus at the Fez when I was down last in 01. Wanna do that thanksgiving? I may be in town with Macy's entourage.
I'll take a stab at your CORE cd review later this week, I just finished 3 months of intense work with some major payoffs.
meanwhile - pick up YGKs CORE disc - a jazz trio with spunk, heart and chops!!!
Auss
User: Aussie | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: Dearest June lovie: "we owe you a full lobster/mssel/clam feast, all freshly caught if you ever come up here!"
You can on that sweetie!
Great colour! Thanks lover.
Yours always,
Ward
User: lp, again | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: julie, your cruise director says:
if you find yourself hanging out in syracuse for longer that you'd like, here's a few little items to do while you are there:
1. got to the fair, the livestock is a hoot and the buildings that contain them are glorious (at least they were when i was a kid)
2. you are not far from onondaga lake, go the far end, north bound, and go ot a place called heid's - they have the best hot dogs and white hots this side of lake erie and they make their own birch beer - great stuff!
3. if you go downtown, hang out in the bars around armory square - this is the hip place to be downtown and the bars and food are good
4. you are also not far from my acenstoral heritage neighborhood of tipperary hill - there is a famous street light at the end of north lowell ave where the lights are reversed so green is on top - when they first put in the light in the 40's the kids in the neighborhood used to throw rocks at the red light until finally the city just reversed the light - in front of this light is the infamous coleman's pub - the coleman brothers still run it, i believe, my mom used to babysit them and they were hellions - their pub is very aunthentic - the guiness is fresh and the food is fabulous
5. if you are into more subdued dining or bar experiences, go to phoebe's on east genessee street at the foot of heathen hill that is the syracuse university campus - mine and aus' stomping grounds
enjoy! stay out of the malls!
User: Aja | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: but how could you guys forget to list where the great SHOPPING is? Not Bloomingdales, the holes-in-the-walls with great deals.
Aja
User: luckless pedestrian | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: Hey all -
don't know where to begin...
front row center seats in manchester, new hampshire kinda has left me speechless! wormy and aus, thanks for not going, but you missed a great show! we owe you a full lobster/mssel/clam feast, all freshly caught if you ever come up here!
after a grueling 5 hour drive from the island, checked into the hotel and quickly found on street parking - went in and shook with delight as were led to the floor and to our center front row seats (did i mention they were front row center?) - got some beer and popcorn, since there was no time to get real food and a g & t before the show
nestled into our seats, we saw in the corner of the stage the great jon herington shining up a guitar (apologies to real musicians in here but i can't tell you which guitar he was working on - it was brown - lol) so we sauntered over to the edge of the front corner of the stage and called over to him, said hello, great show in massachusetts and would he sign our tickets - being the incredibly nice guy he turned out to be, he paused to finish his work and then came over - we talked briefly about the massachusetts show and wished him luck on the evening performance - he signed my ticket "thanks for listening" with his signature underneath - truly a highlight moment of the evening - we even got a little wave from the stage which was very cool - he is so much fun to watch play too, i have a new appreciation for the guitar intro to charlie parkers band i had not known before
being right there is wonderful because we got to see all the unspoken communciation that goes on up on stage that gets lost in rows further back - the nods from donald to soloists to start and end, fingerpoints from walter alerting the same, a glare or two if someone was a little off in their minds (not that we'd notice anything being off, but funny to see just the same) - nods and smiles between donald and walter - they had indicated to the crowd they had not played there before and were hoping for a good night - the crowd did not let them down with their cheers and hoots and they smiled at the positive feedback
the front row was a little too stodgy, no dancing until the encore, but i was groovin in my seat - many did not appear to know the songs from emg, which was odd to us, we figured they must have won their seats by being that 19th caller or something - lol/smirk
the ladies were having fun teasing the drooling guys in the front row in their corner which was hilarious to watch - cynthia especially was getting their goat(s) - they were better miked at this show so their performance on charlie parker's band was that much more enjoyable
setlist was the same as massachusetts and st paul, which was fine, happy to hear it all over again and we appreciated the tour even more having had 2 perspectives
we saw walter's son (we think, anyway) move quietly from the backstage before they came out and into a box seat
at intermission, we looked for a keychain but got a mousepad instead - i weasled around an ensuing fight regarding people cutting into the beer line (no one noticed when i did it, nice being a "girl" and being shorter than they were - lol) - after quietly edgingly getting some heiny's, i joined my husband back at our seats (that's new hampshire for you, right? a fight, for heaven's sake - so typical it was almost cliche, but i'm being a snob, yes i know)
the horns were awesome, it is fun to watch them play and groove with each other - the drummer was rightfully exhausted since he took his solo's up a notch from massachusetts, the crowd was lovin this guy
we felt like we were at a brubeck concert the way the band members show respect to each other when one is doing some solo work and the solo's are carefully orchestrated but easy - this ensemble was a class act
donald was so enjoying every note he played, getting in so deep with it, sometimes he'd forget to sing again so the ladies saved the lyric on a couple of occasions - it was like being in a studio with the way they interacted and instinctively knew what to do - he was a little under miked which he gestured a little about in the beginning but appeared to say to hell with it - it didn't matter, the music was awesome and the crowd was singing along
i feel lucky to have been there like that, it was unbelievable - if you ever get the opportunity, hock what you have to and get the tickets - they are worth it!!!!
ended up afterwards looking for food - some police officers told us about a diner down an alleyway not too far from the arena so we slithered on in for some greasy eggs benedict - the red arrow diner, a must visit if you are ever in the area - it was skeevy enough that were expecting the band to slide on down too but they had packed up the arena and onto the next place i suppose
a margarita at a nearby bar ended the evening joyously
too bad i am now back at the office for a meeting, but i'm still reelin from last night!
next post, to-do's in syracuse if you are stuck there!
User: Aja | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: Aus, YGK, Lady B: cut and pasted the "things to do" lists, and am packing my umbrella with the Kirschwasser and BBB. Will call when I get in!
Aja
User: Aussie | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: Malcolm: Great list. AND colour on PNC too! (a mindless omission from my earlier post...sorry bud)
Let's see, so many things to do and see and so little time:
1. Battery Park on the southernmost tip of Manhattan. See the eternal flame in memory of those who lost their lives in Nine Eleven. Then mosey on down to what is perhaps one of the best kept secrets: The American Cafe uniquely positioned with stunning views of New York Harbour and Lady Liberty. Be sure to try their crab cake and have a strawberry daquiri in the outdoor bar...if you're there on the right night, you'll be sipping you daquiri and listen to live jazz.
2. Tomoe Sushi (on Thompson Street between Bleeker and Houston Streets): The mecca for sushi lovers...the sashimi is incredibly fresh. But get there early, long lines form.
3. Angelika Film Centre: On any given night catch some steamy foreign flicks not usually found in your bible belt states.
4. The Bridge Cafe in Brooklyn directly under the Brooklyn Bridge. Outstanding restaurant with unbelievable views of the Manhattan skyline. The mix a mean martini there.
5. Yankee Stadium, the Bronx. Go catch a game and see our Bronx Bombers kick some ass. Scalpers outside the stadium offer best seats in the house at extraordinarily reasonable mark-ups. Just be sure its the right game and date on the ticket and that you see the MLB security features logo on the back of your ticket. Before the game stop by Stans, a long time classic watering hole where the beers are ice cold and the mood is a mixture of insanity and rabid loyalism for the boys in pinstripes.....oh yeah, don't dare to walk in there with a Boston Red Sox hat.
6. The Cloisters in Fort Tryon Park. A true jewel often overlooked by many tourists who never venture above 100th Street. Avoid all the fuss and muss and crowds usually found at The Met...
7. The Bronx Zoo. One of the best in the country.
8. Chinatown. Great egg rolls, cheap veggies, and massage salons (you know the ones that offer their clientele "happy endings")
9. Meat Packing District: Just another one of the many regentrified neighbourhoods in the city. There, you will find a plethora of bars all within walking distance. Special mention to Lotus, Pastis (great steak frites and many celebrity spottings there) and Havana Bar. Oh, and if your feeling kinky, there's also an S&M club there...
10. Grand Central Station: Recently refurbished in large part due to the efforts of the late Jackie O'. Great bars, shopping, people watching.
11. After a long day stroll into Bang & Olufsen on Park Avenue South between 22nd and 23rd Streets. Bring in your favourite Steely Dan compact disque and say you want to listen to it in their private living room setting. There you will sit on a comfy leather chair, lights dim, and listen to splendor of the Dan in what is arguably the very best in hi-fi technology. By the way, for this to work, just tell the salesman that you're interested in buying one of their systems.
Hope it helps,
Aus
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: Sorry - Item #1: Take the A to 190......
ygk
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: Less Hostile/Non-Tourist BS Things to do in NYC before a gig.
1. Take the A Train to 187, and walk up to Fort Tryon Park over looking the Hudson......smell the roses and other foliage. Pinch yourself - you're still in Manhattan!
2. Go to the Knitting Factory on Leonard Street. See ANYTHING.
3. Mingus Big Band on Thursday Nights at the Fez under Time Cafe - Lafayette Street near Great Jones (in the Village - 1 block East of B'way)
4. Old Times Square jaunt. It's 7 O'clock - do you know where your All Nude Strip Club is? Grab $200. Go to Stiletto - 8th Ave between 43/44. Pay your admission. Get your stamp. They Serve No Alcohol at All Nude Bars. Leave. Go to O'Neill's Bar 2 blocks up - order Jameson's neat. Repeat. Repeat again. Go BACK to Stiletto. Meet folks. Go Back to O'Neills. Repeat this cycle until you can't no more....but enjoy!
5. Take the Staten Island Ferry. 1/9 train to Bowling Green. Enjoy the crossing, and the views of the Statue of Liberty and Manhattan. ALways a treat. But as soon as you get to Staten Island, leave immediately. There's nothing there. Enjoy the ride back.
6. Walk across the Brooklyn Bridge.
7. Go to Bleecker Street at night. Check out the Terra Blues spot - the most consistent live blues scene on Bleecker, and some of these cats are friggin scary.
8. Eat Dinner at Le Pescedou - 6th Avenue and King Street (1 block below Houston). Ask for Chuck, and tell 'em Malcolm sent you.
9. Take a taxi across Houston after dinner and wander around Tompkins Square Park - that's an improv solo you'll have to play on your own.....
10. Later - explore Hells Kitchen. Go to 9th Avenue - up and down in the 40s.......wait for a Blackout, and for the Candles to come out. You'll never want to leave.....
ygk
User: I'm a loo-thee-ay | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: Steve- great review, guitar enthusiast here! Walter's solo in Aja was outstanding, no noodling there... and he finally let loose the boutique amps he's been bringing- The Bogner and The Top Hat were glowing with overdriven tube harmonics, a very welcome sound indeed. Gorgeous work. As the show progressed he did settle in to a less chance-taking, more noodling posture but I agree with comments on these and other pages- our hero has been woodshedding and mapping out his solos in advance with new ideas. btw, he plays a Sadowsky and has quite a few of these strat style guitars. See the website- www.sadowsky.com/
John was mainly using a recent Gibson 336 carved tap-tuned maple top [nice flame] over mahogany body which sounded fabulous, better than the 335 in my not so humble opinion. His tele had an extra strat pickup in the middle and he chose to use that judiciously- spanking tones cutting through the mix with single coil alacrity. His playing is a little unemotional but the technical prowess and taste certainly outweighed this. I enjoyed how he built solos around the classic ones, tweaking and redirecting [with some humor!] like the consummate jazz player he is.
Here is a link if you want a better look at the newer custom shop 336
http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/CS336-TGB.htm
If you are interested, please watch my website: jazzevolution.com
over the next 6-8weeks it should be complete. I designed a fusion guitar with classic looks on the outside- but inside is another story. The neck is "frame shifted" providing complete access like the 335/336 while maintaining the single cutaway vibe of a big jazz box. Thinner than an L-5, thicker than a 335, yet has a 17" lower bout [wider than the Gretsch 6120] and contains a lot of acoustic space to bring out the bass end much more so then John's 336. The middle brace connects the neck through the box all the way down to the tail block but it is contoured, suspended within the instrument to maximize sustain without sacrificing acoustic qualities [quite unlike the dampening center "block" of a 335] It is far more resonant than a 335 yet affords a face mounted Bigsby [reducing overall string length for near solid body string bendability- a good thing]. Neck scale= 25". The prototype was built by Roger Giffin [who drew the plans to my specs], the former head luthier at the Gibson custom shop who has made guitars for some great players; his clientele list is sterling. The guitar will be available in 2004, the base model should weigh in at ~$2,500 American.
Watch the site!
jake
User: Jimbo | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: Bad Sneakers- Things to do in NYC before or after the gigs/parties.
1. Go to Rockefeller Plaza and try to be on the Today Show. Maybe get close to Katie, Matt, Al and Ann. I prefer to get closer to Katie and Ann, but that's me:)
2.If you see Rocco DiSpirito, ask him how the city's sanitary dept. does a better job in finding out how much his restaurant sucks more than he did.
3.Filth Mart- Drea DiMatteo is co-owner of the place. Located somewhere in the village. Her boyfriend is co-founder. Bummer. And I wanted to get closer to Drea, but that's just me;) The place sells vintage rock and roll clothing.
4. Celebrity sightings- try to find out which celebrity is hanging out
at which place. If you can afford it, take a chance. My ideal celebrities to seek out- The Sex and the City girls.
5.If you see the Fox News Channel building, spit on it or scream CNN, CNN, CNN, CNN.
Everyone going to Jones Beach- I wish I was going with ya, but let us know how it turns out.
RECOMMENDED DVD- Bowling For Columbine starring Michael Moore. This film rocks. Charleton Heston looks like an idiot, especially when he says that ethnicity is to blame for the increase of shootings. HAHAHAHA! And
this is the same guy whose love interest in the Omega Man was a black woman. Dick Clark looks like a bigger idiot now than ever.
Michael Moore's book is out. Get it while you can before Fox News and the Government get to it.
User: Dano | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: Sneakers , I have been trying to get hold of you for weeks ??Are you out there matey??
Dano.
User: Steven in CT | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: Check out this review of EMG. I don't agree with all of it, but thought fans would want to see it.
http://lexus.msn.com/id/2086028/
Steely Dan Is Getting Old
And that's a good thing.
By Fred Kaplan
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It's been 30 years since Steely Dan came out with the first of nine albums that infused pop music with new layers of knotty harmonies, insouciant irony, and a cryptic poetry that Dylan might have conjured had he pored over Burroughs instead of Guthrie. Donald Fagen and Walter Becker, the former school chums from Bard who created Steely Dan, are now 55 and 53, respectively; their output of late has been less than prodigious (three records in the past two decades); their basic sound is as distinctively slickùdetractors would say soullessly repetitiveùas that of any act in rock history.
So, why, at least for their fans of long standing, do they still delight, compel, sometimesùas on the best tracks of Everything Must Go, their new CDùeven startle? It's not just the retro doo-wop backup singers, the Blue Note horn charts, the slam-dunk backbeat, or the skylark guitar riffs, though these things do help break down resistances. Above all, it's the Fagen-Becker songs: literary sparklers with oddball narratives, usually about loss, illusion, or unfulfilled dreams, sung by a narrator who's either blithely clueless or self-loathingly aware of his slim prospects.
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Then there's the narrator, played by Fagen, who sings nearly all the Steely Dan songs. Can Fagen properly be called a singer? He strikes attitudes more than notes; his vocal cords strain when they exceed their half-octave range. Yet without his harsh knife-edge cri de coeur, the polished instrumental arrangements can slack perilously close to smooth-jazz fusion. This is why letting Becker sing "Slang of Ages" was a bad move; the tune comes off as a middling blues. When Fagen's at the mike, a tension brews between the voice and the musical mix. He's a troubadour for our times, just as Dylan, that other great nasal whiner, was for his: Dylan's persona, the rebel-protester who storms off Maggie's farm; Fagen's, the world-weary Sybarite who sees "the blood orange sky" above the freeway but feels too beat for rage, and so takes refuge in "the long sad Sunday of the early resigned" (to quote from two of the new songs, "The Last Mall" and "Blues Beach").
Everything Must Go sports some of Steely Dan's catchiest hooks and grimmest lyrics. The disc's first song is about the closing of a mall, the final song about the end of a corporation. But the grand theme of the whole album is the merciless meltdown of all sure bets. Truly everything must go, including the ultimate man upstairs. "Godwhacker," the album's destined classic, might have inspired mass disc-burnings had Fagen sung the words more clearly. ("In the beginning/ We could hang with the dude/ But it's been too much of nothing/ Of that stank attitude/ Now they curse your name/ And there's a bounty on your face/ It's your own fault daddy/ Godwhacker's on the case.") Some early reviewers have interpreted the song as a portrait of terrorists or an attack on Bush. Nonsense. It's a pitch for G÷tterdSmmerung, the cool ravings of a modern Job turned nihilist, Nietzsche crossed with Shaft.
So, we've come full circle from The Nightfly, Fagen's 1982 solo masterpiece, which wistfully evoked the bright-eyed early '60s, the New Frontier of Cold War vigor and limitless possibilities: when Fagen was a restless teen in the Jersey suburbs, dreaming of the day that he and his girl, Maxine, could "move up to Manhattan/ and fill the place with friends/ drive to the coast and drive right back again"; and when the future was imagined as a "streamlined world" run by "a just machine that makes big decisions/ programmed by fellas with compassion and vision."
Now the millennium has arrived, and not even the bomb shelter Dad built can provide protection from the fallout. On "Blues Beach," the narrator talks to "my hypothetical friend." Real life and sexual desire have merged with computer games, programmed by very different sorts of fellas, as in "Green Book" ("The torso rocks and the eyes are keepers/ Now where'd we sample those legs?/ I'm thinking Marilyn 4.0 in the Green Book"). The long-unnerving Steely Dan interest vapid young girls ("Hey, Nineteen" on Gaucho, "Janie Runaway" and "Cousin Dupree" on Two Against Nature) is supplanted by swoons for "Pixeleen," the teeny-bop heroine of an anime spy-thriller ("Pixeleen/ Rave on, my sleek and soulful cyberqueen").
That name, Pixeleenùcould it be a VR recombinant of The Nightfly's Maxine ("pixel" + "ine")? There's an intriguing reverie in the middle verse, lasting just a couple of lines, where the melody segues into a Leiber and Stoller-style lilt, similar to that long-ago song "Maxine," and Fagen reminisces, "Flashback to cool summer nights à in the room above your garage"ùbefore the pixel-pixie lures him back to Matrix-land. It's the one moment of unmasked elegy on Everything Must Go, when the flippant irony dissolves and lays bare the heartbreak of what's been lost.
Fagen said in a recent New York Times interview that he regards all Steely Dan albums as "comedy records to some degree," and of course he's right. Fagen and Becker are not Lou Reed; they have no urge to wallow. Take the album's finale, the title song, which, after a long, wistful, party's-over tenor-sax solo, begins: "It's high time for a walk on the real side/ Let's admit the bastards beat us/ I move to dissolve the corporation/ in a pool of margaritas/ So let's switch off all the lights/ and light up the Luckies/ crankin' up the afterglow à"
This isn't mere whistling-in-the-dark denial. The Dan know, and well capture, the subversive thrill of letting it all go up in flames. But there is also a deep, sweet sorrow in the final lines:
Talk about the famous road not taken
In the end we never took it
And if somewhere on the way
We got a few good licks in
No one's ever gonna know
'Cause we're goin' out of business
Everything must go.
And you can dance to it.
User: father william | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: It's true that the address may be spoofed but it's still from someone who has St Al's email address in his address book. In any case, this is a bad day for attachments with messages saying "See attached file for more details". I'm catching roughly fourty of these per hour and St Al's address is the only familiar one so far. Considering the lack of the usual spam, perhaps most of them are coming from some spammer's PC.
User: educate yourselves | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: Father and others --
this worm isn't "From" who it appears to be. The Headers are forged or spoofed, which means that the sender in the "From" field is almost never the real sender
Right now someone is probably getting an infected email message
"From" YOU that you never sent.
Main Point - AVOID OPENING ENCLOSURES you are not expecting no matter who they appear to be "From".
read more at
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sobig.f@mm.html
User: father william | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: Warning - I received a virus email from StAl so use caution in opening any messages from him today.
User: Bad Sneakers | Month: 7 | Day: 20
Message: Hi folks
After a hectic summer I have finally arrived back in Scotland in time to get ready for my trip to the Syracuse State fair on the 31st of August - Is anybody going to the show ???
Can anybody recommend some things to do in NYC for the days before and after the gig :-) Anybody about ??? Anybody OUT THERE ???
Bad S
User: SouthOfHollywood | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Stevee!...Can't say thanks enough for the show at TBP on Sunday night...Your band was tremendous and the Aussies (or "Ozzies" as it sounds when THEY say it) were beside themselves...You gave them a night they will never forget, nor will I...And thanks for the little snippets of IGTN before the 2nd set, as it will be as close as I get to hearing it on tour!...Sorry I missed you last night but I'll see you in October!...SOH
User: SteveeDan (Celebrated Australian Host ...) | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Steely Dan takes on the east ... and wins. I am reliving my California concerts reading these posts. It's like an afterglow that doesn't fade with time.
It sounds like the shows at Jones Beach and at Roseland (with Pete's Le Bar Bat functions) will be the crown jewels in the tour. I wish I could be there. And Pete's done hired da hitmaker !!! Lawd Have Mercy !
Rajah (post #4231) - our Baked Potato gig was a ton of fun. It looks like we've settled in to our situation at this venue. The crowd is literally right on top of the stage so it just seems fitting to turn the entire club into a stage ... in other words, it felt like everyone was right up on stage with the band. It was a party scene at full tilt ... a room full of Bodacious Cowboys and cowgirls.
We were honored to have Scotty and Alan from Sydney Australia there with us. Also there was Joe "SouthOfHollywood" C. The club was sold out. I found out later that a few people were turned away at the door. I wish that hadn't happened to those people.
I had thought that the Bruce Springsteen concert that was taking place at Dodger Stadium that night would cause us attendance problems. Thankfully, that wasn't the case.
The following evening I spent some time hanging out with my Australian mates in Marina Del Rey. They are going to catch a lot of Steely Dan shows in New York and in Washington, D.C.
So as I take some time out from studying our "game tapes" of the gig to say hello to all of you, I would now like to take this opportunity to engage in some ...
S H A M E L E S S .. P L U G G I N G !!!
Yep ... you guessed it ... PRETZEL LOGIC LIVE IN HERMOSA BEACH !!!
SUNDAY AUGUST 31st, 2003 AT 2:30 PM ON THE HERMOSA BEACH PIER MAIN STAGE.
WE'LL PLAY WITH RECKLESS ABANDON (at least that's what the gig tapes are showing ...) for you ... and you're all on the guest list (i.e.; no admission fee !). This is the cool part of the summer !
There are lots of exhibitors selling their ... exhibits, kiddie rides, food, beer, spirits (of the material world and otherwise), and lots of other visual treats for your enjoyment. Bring the whole Fan Damily !
Oh ... Rajah ... you might be having a wonderful time in Italy ... but you blew it man ... just ask the head Dr. Wooner !!!
And to Clas ... I will have some live tracks for you soon. That's a promise.
I hope that everyone is enjoying their summer. It's a great time to be a Steely Dan fan.
SteveeDan (Chief Bottle Washer for Pretzel Logic)
User: SD Web | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Re: toronto reschedule. The rescheduled date was Sept 9...then 6 hrs later changed to Sept 14.That's where it stands, and should now stay.
On another note, a NASTY new fast-moving worm broke out today -- forges "From" field.
See
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sobig.f@mm.html
or the details. And DO NOT open any attachments unless you are 100% sure what they are and where they came from. This one is pretty ugly
User: Johnnyfever | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: The Steely Dan website says the rescheduled Toronto date is 9/9/03, BUT Ticketmaster is saying that the new date is 9/14/03. Do any Steely Dan fans know the correct date??? This is so fucked up! I've already made two useless trips to Toronto to see these guys and NO SHOW! Going to Toronto feels like going to Baghdad.
User: Crawler | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Just got back from Manch Vegas as us locals call it. The set was great, the band was tight, and the vibe was right - but the sound was just awful. Almost ruined the whole show for me. Shoulda gone to Great Woods...
User: Aussie | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Steven in Connecticut and LuckLess Pedestrian in Massachussets and Lady Bayside in New York: Outstanding colour...thank you very much.
BTW: It's spelled Andres Segovia, not Andre. Be sure to add the tilde on the "E" in Andres.
Bill: Rain or shine, Jones Beach will be the snarkiest of all Danfests....bring your poncho though just in case. We'll pack a few extras courtesy of our local Army Navy Surpluss shoppes, just in case you can't get to your local one.
Aus
User: OOPS!!! Moll | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: * Carlos Montoya........ I'm listening to Segovia tonight. sorry.... brain blip
User: Moll | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Angel, I was so blown away by Steely's performance, I couldn't have taken notes if I'd wanted to... lol I admire your discipline. I just sat back and basked in their Supreme musical presence. I've had the oportunity to see some pretty noteworthy performers; Andre Segovia, Jeff Beck, The Who, Stevie Ray Vaughan to name a few. But seeing Steely Dan was truly an extraordinary event.
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Sundays show was incredible!
I was accompanied by 2 lovely Ladies: Bayside and Toni, and we managed to connect with Hoops in Manhattan just before the show. Thanx, Lady B for everything!
I thot the sound was a bit piercing at times, and the reverb where we were was a bit much......but the band was hotso, Donald was loose, Walter was gooseallovertheneck (of his guitar), Carlock was locked (although I think he slippedhalf a beat in his solo, I lost count temporarily), and the overall vibe of the place was joy and wonder.
Great big crowd gasps at various openings in the set list; glad they did Godwhacker and Slang and TIMTM. During the band intros first half, Herington smoked his 4 bars, drawing a humongoid response from the crowd. Nearly every one of the band was from, passed through, passed out or has said something negative about Jersey.........or something like that.........
looking forward to Jones Beach and the fests - I will probably have to go out with Feff after work - and enjoy Aus, LadyB, Aja, Bill, and others at the pre and post parties.....
This is really an orchestra - the horns were chiefly significant, and Weiskopf certainly got his due.........s
now, back to my crises -
ygk
User: Aja | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Just a heads up for the Jones Beach contingent: I'm getting all kinds of bizarre e-mails from most everyone on the list; it looks like a virus and usually has an attachment saying "Here are the details". Just thought you should know (if you haven't already been bombarded). Anyway, I'll be communicating by phone w/everyone involved from now on, so if you receive an e-mail from my address, don't open it!
Aja
User: Pete Fogel | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Attention all Shoppers!
Just added --- After the Saturday September 13 Roseland show
After the Saturday show at Le Bar Bat... party for the fans. Show your ticket stub or mention "Steely Dan" and receive reduced admission to see The Hudson River Rats featuring legendary Steely Dan drummer Bernard "Pretty" Purdie (Babylon Sisters, Kid Charlemagne, Home at Last, etc). You've heard him on the records, you've seen him on "The Making of Aja" DVD, now see the "Hit Maker" live. And he's not just sitting in... he's playing all night!
__________________________________________
ROSELAND Festivities!
Friday September 12
5:00pm - Pre Show gathering at the Novotel Hotel, 52nd St & Broadway (across the street from Roseland). The Novotel lobby bar is the best kept secret in NYC. Located on the 6th floor, the lobby bar has a huge outdoor terrace that wraps around the entire building with great views of Times Square and Roseland.... oh, and you're about 40 yards from the venue.
Post Show - Right after the show til 4:00am... Party for the Steely Dan band/crew and fans five blocks north of Roseland (5 min. walk) at Le Bar Bat with a special performance by Funk Filharmonik. This 14 piece funk/soul band is made up of Tower of Power alumni, including vocalists Tom Bowes and Brent Carter and all five horn players. We are expecting many special guests, including former Steely Dan session players.
Your Roseland ticket stub or just mentioning "Steely Dan" will get you discounted admission to the club ($10 instead or $15).
This should be a fun night, we're expecting a big crowd from all over the world...and the best part about it is that everything is within walking distance.
More details to be announced.
http://www.lebarbat.com
Saturday September 13 - Steely Dan session drummer Bernard "Pretty" Purdie will be playing with The Hudson River Rats at Le Bar Bat.
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: I cannot even begin to compete with Steven from CT's stellar and comprehensive review.
I spent the entire show singing along and high-fiving YGK every so often.
Right now, I am so frazzled from trying to pull all the loose ends together for Jones Beach that I feel "colorless", wormy. Sorry. I can't carefully craft a fabulous, rich in detail review.
It will not rain Friday. And hell, even if it does, we'll still party. After all, we'd be getting wet at the venue anyway. Might as well get wet in the parking lot.
Don't make me worry about rain on top of everything else, NYB. Geez.
Looks like a 4pm-ish start on the Bayside Bacchanal, BTW.
Lady B
User: angel | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Steven in CT: I wondered how you managed to get all that color. I was lucky to write down the set list at all, at my show. The song list got more and more unreadable, as the evening wore on. Of course the lack of light, didn't help my handwriting any.... :-)
I feel like by the time I see them at Universal, it will be a totally new show to me. It will be almost 3 months between performances.
User: Steven in CT | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Dano, I cheated. My short-term memory is so shot (thanks to the Cuervo Gold and the fine you-know-what) that I am forced to rely on aids. I had the set list from the St. Paul show (thanks to a Sign in Stranger colleague) that turned out to be the same as the NJ show. So I knew what was coming song-wise. I did bring the set list and a pen, although I did not make notes during the performance. Shortly afterward, I jotted down some thoughts. And I may have confused a few details. Sorry. Plus, I knew that, God willing, I'll be seeing the band again in a month, so I did focus in on some details at the expense of enjoying the overall sound at certain points. Next month, I'll be looking at other things and will try to appreciate the bits I may not having given adequate attention before.
User: NYB | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Note to God...
Yo God what's up?
Okay bro lemme make this very plain. August 22nd represents a very
important day for me. August 22nd is the day that Steely Dan will be
playing Jones Beach Amphitheater in Wantagh, New York, but you already
know that so let me just get to the point...
According to the local weather station we are supposed to be having
THUNDERSTORMS on August 22nd! I tell you this Mister God, I have been
waiting for THREE YEARS for this concert sir and if you insist on making
it rain on August 22nd I'll tell you what I'll do; I'll kill myself so
that my spirit can track you down in whatever comfy little corner of
heaven that you currently occupy and I'll shove these tickets straight
up your ass with a pitchfork! GOT IT?!!!
DON'T MAKE IT RAIN ON FRIDAY YOU PAIN IN THE ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User: The Cincinnati Kidding | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Clas! Are you from Borss? I am there right now.
I'd like you to lose your wallet there.
User: Dano | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Lady B , Let us know how the party goes on Friday, another good read from the Blue Book and waiting for the story with YGK and the big balloons.
Cheers
Dano.
User: Dano | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: lp , Steven , Really great to read the reviews and a lot of respect due.But how do you listen and remember everything that went on and then write it all down??Superb Stuff you two Doosers. Now next on the podium is Aussies colour. Lets hear it America. Keep up the good work.
Leggin it
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaano.
User: duncan | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: lp & Steven
Many thanks excellent colour
User: Steven in CT | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Angel, thanks for the correction on the quotation. I am often intimidated by the incredible depth of knowledge that the folks on this board have. But I was so enraptured by the concert I had to stick my neck out and express myself.
Yes, the rain did coincide with "Godwhacker" and there was thunder and lightning. Was God upset at the whacking threat? Unlikely. He has told me that He enjoys Donald and Walter's music (a joyful noise?).
I was surprised not to see Walter playing his trusty Sadowsky guitar on Sunday. I thought that perhaps the NYC-based Sadowsky might be re-working the guitar in preparation for the balance of the tour, but who knows?
For the guitar enthusiasts out there (I am a neophyte in this regard.), Walter played the Strat on the bridge pickup only (judging by the selector switch). It sounded great, of course. And althought I could not be sure, Herrington's semi-hollowbodies appeared to be a vintage sunburst Gibson ES-333 and a "plain" or "natural" finish Gibson ES-335, both sans pickguards. Herrington also broke out a Telecaster in the second set, although memory fails me as to which songs featured which ax.
And I didn't mean to neglect Keith Carlock and Tom Barney in my review. Carlock really added energy and punch to this year's proceedings. Although I have to say that I think Steely Dan should eschew the obligatory drum solo (and the charade of leaving the stage prior to the encores) it is not because of any deficiency on Mr. Carlock's part. Quite the contrary. Drum solos are, IMHO, cliche. Carlock's contributions were integral to the music and added to every number. Mr. Barney, likewise, was brilliant without drawing attention to himself. The bass part on "Josie" was one of the few parts that really drew my attention to his playing. But throughout the evening both gentlemen's careful, energetic and artful work drove the pieces we all enjoyed.
I also thought later how Donald used to say that the band should avoid interpreting the lyrics and that the songs were properly presented without any visual information. The video "show" that enhanced my enjoyment presented vague images and suggestions rather than trying to tell the stories. I hope that they release a DVD of this tour including these wonderful visuals.
User: angel | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: Steven in CT: It was a very good review. By the way, the quote from the "Making Aja" video about them going beyond perfection, was made by Dean Parks.
Someone else mentioned (over on the Blue) that when they played "Godwacker", the heavens opened up and there was thunder and lightning going on. Do you remember that? A very unpleased deity.... :-)
LP: "I know you're out there". I never thought of that line quite in that way before. Too funny. The kids boping is a cute memory, too. Definitely proves that Donald and Walter have crafted a show that hits on lots of levels. Young, old, casual fan, fanatic, etc...
User: wormwood | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: uncle screwtape I presume?
lp - great color on Boston
can't wait to hear tonight's rundown
YGK and Lady B - no word from the front?
is it just me
listen to the intro to Things I Miss The Most
it sounds like the horns are echoing
every good thing must go, must go
every good thing...
the fade out mimics this is shortside sublime
wormwood tom
User: duncan | Month: 7 | Day: 19
Message: hutch
''add a tap'' plays in windows media player
it's about 10 seconds long
User: C @ Work | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: Steven! Are you from Ohio? I have been there!
I lost my wallet in Cincinnati.
User: | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: despot - yes, don't stare into the fire. Just feel the heat.
User: tones | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: stevied - you making it to any shows this summer?
User: C @ Work | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: Hutch - yes, it is.
(except for the backstage-part)
How's it going with your recordings, Hutch?
You got my address at;
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/sketchesandstrangeloops
Or click the URL above.
User: Hutch | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: Can anyone get that "Add-a-Tap" movie to play? It's on the tour pics page on the ODP.
Can't get it to download.
User: Hutch | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: StevenCT - Great color. I can't wait to see this show next week.
You say the band intros gained light applause. What happened when Walt introduced Donald?
I love that part of the show when they introduce each other. In '96 I believe WB said something like, "My partner for the last 30 years... Donald Fagen." And the place goes nuts! And every single person in the first 20 rows stands up and cheers. And the same thing happens when Don introduces Walt. It's a beautiful thing. Brings tears of joy to my eyes every time.
Man, wouldn't it be great to be able to go back stage and meet these guys and talk to them for a few minutes. I just want to shake their hands and thank them for all the wonderful music.
Okay... I'm finished gushing now.
Clas - Is this how you feel about Jackson Browne?
Hutch
User: Steven in CT | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: I had the privilege of witnessing Steely Dan in concert this past Sunday Night at the Garden State Arts Center in Holmdel, NJ. I went with the very highest of hopes. Mssrs. Becker and Fagen did not disappoint. I must mention that my seats, while priced like identical seats a few rows closer to the stage, and thus under the protective roof, were not under the roof. But I digress.
The set list was the same as posted hereon a few days ago as being the list played in St. Paul, Minnesota. They opened with ôAjaö, the first of five treats from the landmark LP. Donald was in excellent voice and seemed to grow stronger vocally throughout the evening. Though sometimes yielding a portion of the vocal spotlight where the ladies back him, it was clearly an artistic choice as he hit the high notes on the words ôbirdy, bye-byeö with ease and really soared as a vocalist. But IÆm getting ahead of myself.
ôAjaö was much as I had heard them do it live before, but like a great jazz combo, these guys used the song to loosen up, improvise in little ways and introduce the new sound to this yearÆs audiences. Mssrs. Herrington and Becker complimented each othersÆ playing in the way the uptown jazzy sound of JonÆs semi-hollowbodied axes complimented the beefy and nimble tones of WalterÆs Strat (a Æ54? Nah.) I thought the overall sound of the band was more relaxed than last year and had a bit more pop. I credit the change in drums and the continuity that this group of players has enjoyed.
Very little chit-chat from Donald before jumping into ôGodwhackerö, save a mock jab at Ted Baker, a snarky compliment from the relaxed and happy-looking (for him) Fagen to the superb pianist who showed restrained brilliance throughout the night. Rendition was faithful to the recording, as one would expect, but again, the little improvised spice tossed in by each player elevated the piece.
Several screens projected a strangely pleasing array of video images to accompany the show. Sometimes these images, geometrical shapes, bits of design drawings, picture frames, would be mixed with live video of the performance as it was proceeding, incorporating Donald, at any one time, in those environments. At this point I should mention that it began to rain, quite heavily for perhaps, fifteen pr twenty minutes. Looking back up the page a few paragraphs I see that I have previously mentioned that my seats were not covered by the roof, so I wonÆt belabor the point here.
Before launching into ôCaves of Altamiraö, Donald asked if we were getting wet. We replied that we were. He paused and said,ö Well, may fortune smile on you in the future.ö And with that they knocked out a punchy, swinging version of this ôRoyal Scamö classic and then bounced into ôBlack Cowö. By the time he was telling Dr. Greenstreet that he looks so outrageous, Mr. Fagen was ôin the pocketö like IÆve seen few other performers.
ôBabylon Sistersö followed. This set presented a pretty fair sampling of the Aja-and-after products of the band. And each tune was familiar, but new and alive. Donald warmly introduced Walter for ôSlang of Agesö and Walter showed what a really accomplished entertainer he is. Of course his playing was as polished and witty as ever. I love the endless combinations of short riffs and runs, spliced and diced, and seemingly casually tossed out for our listening pleasure, although I suspect Mr. Becker plays casually like Bobby Fisher does. WalterÆs singing was terrific. He gave the protagonist just the right blend of sleaze and insincerity, balanced by equal parts apathy and lust. The contrast between the character he created and the dreamy background vocals really moved the song along. After this number came the usual band member introductions during which Walter pointed out that the majority of the band is from the Garden State and included the hometown of each member in his introduction, to easy applause.
Jon HerringtonÆs solo on ôPegö was the next highlight for me. Although WalterÆs picking on the verses was as outstanding. ôHome at Lastö rounded out the first set and the horns just sounded like a ton of bricks. The group is so balanced with talent that itÆs tough to know what to pay attention to. When I could break myself away from the overall harmony and sound, I was taken by the strength and talent of the horn section. Cornelius sounded as reliably fanciful as ever and Walt Weiskopf brought a crisp drive to the party. Mssrs. Pugh and Leonhart each took a few turns at wowing us throughout the evening.
Mr. Fagen promised and delivered a twenty minute intermission and we were presented with a sing-along style ditty by the whole band, ex-Becker and Fagen and the video of the lyrics to a satirically marketing-driven vehicle. I thought it mis-fired, but before I could dwell on it, a two-song suite of ôJanie Runawayö and ôHey Nineteenö was under way. Both sounded great with ôJanieö floating like Forrest GumpÆs feather and then doing a funky bump right into ôHeyö. Donald seemed to relish his spoken interlude before sending the ladies into their refrain about tequila and illicit herb. And he let the audience take lead vocal for a few lines. What a guy!
When Walter struck the strings with the opening chords of ôHaitian Divorceö, it was as if I was hearing that familiar favorite for the first time. And Mr. Herrington really outdid himself on the technically demanding introduction. I was left wanting more when Walter, yes, Walter, began his troubadourÆs tale of Babs and her ill-fated marriage. It might have been after ôThing I Miss the Mostö, which followed or ôParkerÆs Bandö, which followed that, but I remember feeling as though I was enjoying this wonderful music as much as I could enjoy anything. I looked up and saw a few wisps of fleeing clouds and not one, but many stars in the changeable New Jersey sky. And the music just took me up. It was joyous. I did mention that our seats were not covered by the roof, didnÆt I?
ôThingsö was a true-to-the-recording version with more soul from the horns and ôParkerÆs Bandö had the ladies of the background step up and take the lead vocals all together. It worked. And the crescendos that the song begins and ends, well almost ends, with were organized chaos of the highest order. It made me hope against hope that they would segue right into the title track from the current release, which features a kindred crescendo opening, but that was not to be.
The trio of songs that followed was outstanding. ôJosieö, ôKid Charlemagneö and ôDonÆt Take Me Aliveö are three of my top few songs. Period. And it really is a thrill to hear Becker and Fagen, at the peak of their powers, playing these songs with power and artistry. As Larry Carlton says on the DVD of the making of the ôAjaö album, Donald and Walter donÆt strive for perfection; they strive for, and achieve, that thing on the other side of perfection where it becomes natural. And alive.
The encores ôMy Old Schoolö and ôFMö were likewise impeccable. And maybe Walter steps up to the mike and exclaims,ö What a f*cking great audience!ö at every performance, but he sounded sincere and the feeling was entirely mutual. Thanks fellas. I canÆt wait for the next time (in about a month).
User: duger | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: bravo saturday night in Mansfield. Outstanding! Best of their shows on this stage. The Band esp Jon Herington and Keith Carlock really sizzled. Donald was right on and Walter was clean and slick. Great show! Where can I find a set list?
User: Doctor Warren Kruger | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: Ole- Darn! You must've cheated! We medical professionals know all the little tricks you new age healers are capable of- channelling Burroughs spirit for the answer, etc...
Well, as promised, your prize is the little concoction that z coated the first thousand copies of EMG with- as they say, the dreck is in the mail.
Philanthropically Yours,
Dr. Warren K.
User: lp | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: now where was i?
oh yes, the party in the parking lot -
a cell phone call to one on their way brought the gin so all was well once again
our seats were section 6, almost dead center but up in the second tier under the pavilion - so no interrupted view but high up
the show was overall one of the best i had seen of any tour, regardless of sound problems they were having ( a little tinny) - herington was like "santa monica on fire" and i have never seen walter so animated in his playing - the horn section was completely in sync with each other and were smooth like velour pushed the right way (lol) - the drummer was electricifying, a very different, i thought approach and i welcomed the change - the bass player, what can i say about this guy but i want whatever he's on! - keyboards are like the beating pulse that keeps the blood flowing (donald's role that evening) - the ladies really shined and became one of the instruments which was perfect
they complimented their boston fans and battled the heat with sophistication - they just looked happy and comfortable and at the same time, energized
the kids were mesmerized, my 10 year flutist wants to switch to a horn now - lol!
they were clearly paying homage to the aja release since they played all of it with exception to deacon blues and i got the news - though i miss the traffic whistle or the "huh" chorus in aja - peg and josie were as fun as ever, but peg isn't the same with the hyper dubbing of michael mcdonald's voice, if only... - and the sing-along for black cow was hilarious with the kids (any excuse to belt out "get out of here" by a 10 year is not to be missed out on)
time out of mind was a real treat for me, and haitian divorce was done more skeevy than ever
their intro to janie runaway and hey 19 after intermission was that it was 2 embarrassing songs which was a hoot and the 2 songs flowed together, perfect!
the ladies' voices were lost in the shuffle of charlie parker's band but it was still a blastin song that they blasted even more - i wanted to hear carolyn do pixeleen but alas, not in the playlist
the graphics were highly stylish as is their norm, and i caved and got myself the shoes t-shirt, though the messenger bag was tempting
i liked that they obviously played what they wanted off of emg, basically knwoing the audience never limits themselves to the singles on the adult contemporary/alternative radio stations - very cool -
and of course, i was thrilled to hear "luckless pedestrian, i know you're out there" - ha, heavy sigh...
||||| or MIB, what did you think? again, sorry i wasn't in your crew -
we did party in the parking lot afterwards, connecting with the friends we had moved away from coming to maine
can't wait now to get the up-close-appreciation of second row in manchester, new hampshire tomorrow night - woo hoo!
then onto the city contingency - wish i could fly down but no can do
User: DJ MITCH @ WJAZ MT. BELZONI | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: I think the Greek coffee cup might be from Lunch with Gina......deepest condolences to the Fagen family........things i miss the most was the right dedication.......
User: Rajini de Erase(lost in Abruzzi) | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: Thanks for all your reviews, folks.
SteveeDan - How wuz da show last night at BP in L.A.? Anybody out there wanna tell me how Pretzel Logic were last night?
User: C @ W | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: Wormy - I'm not sure what "stretch the greenbacks" means, but whatever media you are recording your music on, you're more than welcome!
And dr. Fill is as usuall busy keeping you motivated:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill
Or click the URL above.
User: wormy | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: damn it Aussie - you didn't make the show?
can't wait to hear Malc's color there
was supposed to be in Maine right now and Manchester for the show tommorrow
oh well, insight is a venture
sorry to hear of Donald's mother's passing
Clas - if I can get a decent recording device loaned to me look for something late Sept. I'm looking at an M-Box and do the studio on the computer via protools, then again a cassette via a TASCAM might serve immediate purpose and stretch the greenbacks
I get my british turntable this week and recently picked up EMG on vinyl
will report back on these audio delights
wormbraininvain
User: dirtball despot | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: Sorry to repeat the alliterative appellations, but my verbosity isn't keeping up with my pretensions.
Me curious as to Burroughs/DF connection in 1990. Did WB ever ask, "Now, you read all of Naked Lunch, didn't you?" I listened to an abridged version.
I think I'm beginning necessary phase of getting mad at EMG and thinking it's crap followed by about-face in a few months' time. To do this successfully, I have to not know I'm doing it, though. So I have to induce amnesia in self and cease to realize that I am temporarily engaging in a hatred phase for EMG, that is, one that I know I'll work my way out of. That way it won't seem quite so artificial.
It sounds like mere light pop. I'm not sure that 2vN ever struck me that way, even when I didn't get it yet. (Hawks and Doves by N Young playing, now.) (The Cajun side.)
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: Fla Dave - great, you were the first to send music to the GB-CD. Later you have to decide which song(s) you want on the CD.
Everybody now;
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/sketchesandstrangeloops
Or click the URL above.
Ordinairy snailmail, no courir.
User: duncan | Month: 7 | Day: 18
Message: Back from Scotland.
How's the tour going then ?
Is there a place for the reveiws & setlists somewhere ?
ahhhhh
home at last
db
User: oleander | Month: 7 | Day: 17
Message: Dr K--"New Standard By Which To Measure Infamy," on "Dead City Radio," I believe. Now didn't you know that Deludin has well-known antipyretic properties? Physician delude thyself.
Dr Mu--Well dreamt, my man!
User: Aussie | Month: 7 | Day: 17
Message: Preliminary colour from Malcom and Lady Bayside at tonight's Steely Dan concert at PNC: from a cellular connection, heard a hard groovin' tenor sax led assault for the evening's opening shot, Aja. Sounds of the crowd were clearly discernible sounds of mature adults oohing and ahhhing.
Aus
post script: Aja: wowow, a BBB. This time you're USING it!
User: Aja | Month: 7 | Day: 17
Message: Final preparations for the wingding are coming together. I've procurred one nasty BBB, and, after many phone calls, found a liquor store that carries Kirchwasser, which looks even nastier than the BBB. But what the hell?!
Like a Steely Dan Movie, Part II: Rebel type motorcycle rider pulls up next to car of middle-aged woman fresh (or not so fresh) from her run on the beach. "Pixeleen" is playing on her stereo. He looks at her, looks at her in her running tights and says "Nice tune". "It's the new Steely Dan", she responds. "Really?" he says surprised. "I'll have to get that". He pauses a moment. She pauses a moment, then thinks better of it and starts the engine. 20 years too late, she thinks.
Aja
User: StAl | Month: 7 | Day: 17
Message: I love a women who drinks gin.
For that matter I love a woman who drinks...
Off on a 3 day fishing trip. Yeah, I'm a masocist. I got me one of them one handed casting reels by Shimano so hopefully I wont, you know, need another $7500 helicopter ride...
Have fun ya'all.
StAl
PS. Damn I wish I could go to the Roseland show... More importantly, the party afterwards...
User: luckless pedestrian | Month: 7 | Day: 17
Message: well hello
writing to you with a cup of coffee in hand in the pastoral community of the north shore in massachusetts - slightly hung over from the music, the coronas and the gin & tonics
pre-show was riddled with debates on the merits of parking in the premium lot (not worth the 30 bucks, since we partied in the parking lot after the show), forgetting the gin (i did it, if you can dig it), and getting weird looks from people watching 4 girls aged 10 and under belting out "blues beach"
the sky was an ominous cadet blue and lightning surrounded the property line but wisely chose not to enter our space
apologies to ||||| and mark for not connecting up
getting to our seats, we were a few rows behind the sound guys which was a good spot becasue we found out they were struggling furiously with sound problems - hence the reason likely they did not get introduced
wait, breakfast is ready - be back shortly...
User: Robin | Month: 7 | Day: 17
Message: Hutch,
Seeing the review you referred to, and noting that Donald's mother had recently passed away reminded me of something I picked up Tuesday night. I remember mentioning to my husband at the time that something was wrong. Donald would always have his family stand up at every show I have seen him do at Blossom. First off, he was much more subdued in his introduction that he normally would have been. His only flash of emotion was in saying that they were from "Cleveland!", but (as I recall) only saying that his father and sister were in the audience (I've always seen his parents, sister and her husband, and his niece). Then he dedicated TIMTM to (paraphrasing) "My father and sister . . . and my mother." With the hesitation before mentioning her. It had to be a very tough show for him. Having the day off between Columbus and Detroit, and the day after the Blossom show, I hope he got adequate time to spend with his family.
From interviews I've seen or read, and just seeing her at the shows, Mrs. Fagen seemed like a very super lady. My sympathies go out to Donald and his family.
User: $35 t shirt? | Month: 7 | Day: 16
Message: At DTE [which is pronounced Pine Knob] Donald wore a t shirt under his jacket which read: Bebop Daddy's [couldn't make out the fine print below that]
Can any one enlighten- is this real? [a quick google suggests not] Well, if you can, I hope you will... thanks in advance.
I wouldn't pay $35 for that shirt either but I liked it on him.
Face too flat?
nope.
I'm not from around here.
User: Doctor Warren Kruger | Month: 7 | Day: 16
Message: If I sounded like I was a raving paranoid any more than usual, I just found out I have a 102.5 fever!
I know, physician, heal thyself!
Fever Dreamishly Yours,
Dr. Warren K.
User: Doctor Warren Kruger | Month: 7 | Day: 16
Message: Don't try to tell me that SD didn't cause this blackout- I've even heard that they paid a number of lackies to cruise the streets of NY with "Last Mall" blasting on their radio!
GMAB! I know the CD sales were a little disappointing, and the tour isn't going as well as they thought it was (even I can tell that DF was straining on the few songs that weren't double tracked with his own voice), going to go, but this is really going to solve nothing.
All you did was to cause a bunch of my homeyz to get busted at Sneaker Heaven in Bed Stuy.
Oh, I know many of you were worried about yours truly Thursday- I survived the MAD MAX situation on the roads (no traffic lights- in NYC!)in Jamaica and made it home to find that yours truly had neither candles or a flashlight.
I wound up getting a lot of shedding in (in total darkness, with just my MM keeping beat), and when I finally tired of that, roamed the streets of the city, half-dressed, spitting sunflower seed shells at those unlucky enough to be in my way.
The whole scene was worthy of NOTLD, and I must confess to getting a hankering for a few brainz to chase away the munchies with...
Surprisingly, the Big Bund I play with every year at Rye Playland, did their gig on Friday, and we all got a copy of the CD we had unknowingly made, when some idiots recorded us last year.
Anyway, since nobody got the first SD trivia question right (that's right, I'm not going to tell you, to make you suffer for your ignorance of one of the greatest jazz albums ever made), I will pose a much more literary question this time:
What recording did DF make with Willian Burroughs in 1990?
PF knows this so he isn't allowed to play.
Heroically Yours,
Dr. Warren K.
User: Mistress of Mayhem | Month: 7 | Day: 16
Message:
Sunshine
Made a wish, I can dream
I can be what I want to be
Not afraid to live my life
And fulfill my fantasies
I learnt a lot of tricks to help me live my life
You helped me find my paradise
When you came I saw
Sunshine through my window
That's what you are
My shining star
Sunshine
Making me feel like
I'm on top of the world
Telling me I'll go far
Reaching out, for the highs
You inspired me to try
I felt the magic inside
And I felt that I could fly
I'm looking at the world in an optimistic light
You made me appreciate my life
'Cos when you came you were my
Sunshine through my window
That's what you are
My shining star
Sunshine
Making me feel like
I'm on top of the world
Telling me I'll go far
You are the calm
I am the storm
You are the breeze that carries me on
When I said a truth
You wink at me
You're there for me
Sunshine (oh yeah)
That's what you are
My shining star
Sunshine
Making me feel I'm on top of the world
Telling me that I'll go far
Sunshine through my window
That's what you are
My shining star
(Sunshine) Making me feel I'm on top of the world
Telling me that I'll go far
Sunshine through my window
That's what you are
My shining star
Sunshine
Making me feel I'm on top of the world
Telling me that I'll go far
Sunshine
My star, my star..
for Spike, I love you D
User: Aussie | Month: 7 | Day: 16
Message: Hey Pete. There's a problem with your email address. I'm interested in your offer for a few friends of mine (a pair for each night=300 bucks)....Please email me....thanks,
Aus
User: Pete Fogel | Month: 7 | Day: 16
Message: ROSELAND Festivities!
Friday September 12
5:00pm - Pre Show gathering at the Novotel Hotel, 52nd St & Broadway (across the street from Roseland). The Novotel lobby bar is the best kept secret in NYC. Located on the 6th floor, the lobby bar has a huge outdoor terrace that wraps around the entire building with great views of Times Square and Roseland.... oh, and you're about 40 yards from the venue.
Post Show - Right after the show til 4:00am... Party for the Steely Dan band/crew and fans five blocks north (5 min. walk) of Roseland at Le Bar Bat with a special performance by Funk Filharmonik. This 14 piece funk/soul band is made up of Tower of Power alumni, including vocalists Tom Bowes and Brent Carter and all five horn players. We are expecting many special guests, including former Steely Dan session players.
Your Roseland ticket stub or just mentioning "Steely Dan" will get you discounted admission to the club ($10 instead or $15).
This should be a fun night, we're expecting a big crowd from all over the world...and the best part about it is that everything is within walking distance.
More details to be announced.
http://www.lebarbat.com
Saturday September 13 - TBA
**If anyone still needs tickets for either Roseland show, I purchased a block of tickets for each night for a group from England that had to cancel. I am selling floor tickets for face value ($75), you won't have to pay the ticketmaster fees. Email me if you are interested, I have 6 tickets available for each show.
User: Thomas Whaley | Month: 7 | Day: 16
Message:
Fife..sorry the sad state of affairs cancelled the expeirience"
Dano..seventh sojourn
SouthOfHollywood..the appreciation will not be forgotten"
played Friday
Duke Robillard/Herb Ellis..More Conversations In Swing..(new)
Wes Montgomery..Full House..'title"..(1962) recorded live in berkley
Jimmy ponder..Come On Down.."uncle steve"
Jay Mc Shan.."my chile"
Jonny Johnson Band.."baby please"
Slowburn..Slowburn.."gloria"
J.J. Johnson..Memorial Album.."blue and boogie"
Nat King Cole..The Billy May Sessions.."what does it take" recorded at capitol studio (a)
Count Basie..Basie Live At The Sands.."hello little girl"
Nat King Cole.."walkin my baby back home"
Eric Alexander..Nightlife In Tokyo.."island"(new)
Cedar Walton..The Promised Land.."title"
Wayne Shorter..Lp The Sooth Sayer.."angola" March 1965
Little Milton.."satisfied"
John Brim.."ice cream man"
Al Kooper..Re-Kooperation.."downtime"
Crusaders..Rural Renewal.."title".happy birthday stix hooper"
Joel Harrison..Free Country.."i walk the line"w/ norah jones(new)
Stephane Grappelli/Mc Coy Tyner..One On One.."summertime"
Oscar Peterson/Joe Pass..Porgy And Bess..'it aint necessairly so"
Joe Lovano..On This Day At The Vanguard.."focus"(new)
Sonny Rollins..Here's to The People.."why was i born"
Stanley Turrentine..Lp Straight Ahead.."plum" December 1984
Less Mc Cann..Hows Your Mother.."doin that thing"
Lizz Wright..Salt.."title"
Gill Scott Heron..Pieces Of A Man"..'i think i'll call it morning"
Bobby Bland..'aint that lovin you"
Van Morrison..How Long Has This been going On.."i will be there"
Kenny Garrett.."aint nothing but the blues"
Donald Byrd.."free form"
Your friends think I'm a devil
and you are an innocent child.
But baby, I know different. I know you ain't.
Slim Harpo
(title unkown)
bluz
User: Dano | Month: 7 | Day: 16
Message: StAl, Thanks for that , i went on his website and to totally honest he looks nothing like he is today which is understandable after the hectic lifestyle i suppose , you could see its his face and features but everything else is shot to bits.Now looks like a gaunt Andy Wharhol?? Heard today from the Betting shop manager he is buying a studio in one of the nearby villages, so will probably see him in the Betting Jungle as apparently he likes a good gamble on the horses??
Cheers
Dano.
User: | Month: 7 | Day: 16
Message: Complexity or Chaos
User: DACW - shaking my head | Month: 7 | Day: 16
Message: Jimbo: This sounds like the stuff on those "interesting" late-night talk shows. One show was blaming it on Ghosts or a pre-view of the apocalypse caused by menacing and pissed off spirits out of ghost busters...let me put on my asbestos suit and dare to interject some rational thought...BLAME THE CANDADIANS!!!! OK, seriously:
"Sometimes, I think the Republicans might have had a hand in this"
??? Woudn't this hurt the Republicans more than Dems since Bush is in the White House...Hillary has already blamed W. Energy policy was largely ignored in the last administration, and the call for R&D expenditures on Fuel Cell Technology during the state of the unio speech (one of the few good parts) is the first Good Idea in years...Congress has met this with a yawn.. No political party or Con Ed is looking for this kind of trouble. The electrical grid is a Complex system, thus falling under the whims of Complexicty of Chaos Theory that govern weather, trees, the Universe, etc... Here's the TRADEOFF -
(1) You can have a less interactive grid where less sharing occurs. The risk here is more frequent, but local power outages. In Texas we have an increased sharing, but not as much as the Northeast and Canada...our infrastucture in newer. We get more lightining in a month that the Northeast and Canada get all year...because of the competence of the people running power, we have few local outages (it works like running train tracks, diverting power), except under very hazardous weather. There is little chance of a statewide power outtage either...whatever you want to say about Texas, our people our friendly, our trains run on time, and we know how to manage energy. Enron was the exception - they used the bogus "dot.com" model
(2) A more highly integrated grid, because of power sharing results in fewer local outtages. We've become accustomed to continuous power...with an interactive system and enough power plants - that is achieved. However, the risk is a collapse of a large portion of the entire system. The infrastucture and interactive nature should be addressed, and it will...the risk of another event like this can be reduced but never completely eliminated.
My recommendation is continued R&D on FUEL CELLS and replacement of plants that are older, produce more pollution, and nuclear plants. Nuclear plants are not inherently bad. Nuclear waste and transport is a potentially a problem, but there are poper storage facilities for burial where no one lives in in Nevada - no danger when handled and disposed of porperly. Remember France is 80% nukes on power delivery. The problem is with nukes is (a) vulnerability to terrorists and (b) they have to be shut down for protection in thes events...Not so with Fuel Cells. It will take 10-20 years or more for replacement, but it's time to start now. The same time period is reasonable for automobiles. Mazda currently sells and rotary engine (Wankel) car powere by a fuel cell...just needs a few sips of methanol perioidcally. Fuel cells in the future will have contained hydrogen sources
Briefly, a fuel cell need an oxygen source (air) and a hydrogen source (methanol, biomass, etc. for a hydrogen source)...the biomass idea is a way for power plants to turn garbage into energy. The product is water. At the automobile level, this could be used for a hydroponic garden in your Kamakiri...at the power plant level, the water could be used for potable use (i.e., irrigation), or even drinking water...
In a complex system such as this, a massive power outtage COULD NEVER BE DONE ON PURPOSE, without ever person managing a substation in on the conspiracy. A terrorist act for example could only result in loss of power locally
"just like the Energy crisis in California which is the reason Gray Davis has, by no fault of his own, has his back against the wall."
Parial deregulation brought Californians the lowest cost in energy per kilowatt-hour in the nation.
The problem was simple. From 1990-2000, power consumption in California increased, while NO NEW Power Plants were built. Partially oversight by Wilson and Gray Davis...partially obstacles in the courts by misdirected environmentalists. The increased consumption was not per citizen - that actually decreased as many household appliances, A/C systems, etc are more efficient. It was simply a natural increase in population due to immigration (legal and illegal) and children (the occasional non-aborted fetus outside Hollywood) that increased demand. Since California refused to build more power plants, the only choice was to buy power from other states.
The mismanagement then is (a) the refusual to fight for new power plants (which are far more efficient and pollute less than 30 years ago), and (b) very poor handling of power companies which sold California the imported energy it needed to provide light and power to the Silicon Valley and the rest of California...the increased California POWER DEFICIT taxed the power plants and systems in the Northwest and in Texas, where the energy companies were trying to meet the needs of California and their own customers...it reached the point where old, polluting, less-efficient power plants had to be turned on to feed California and new plants had to be built. The law of supply and demand dictated that the charges for energy to California would increase and there would be difficulty supplying the California grid...the result was an increase in energy prices (to a level everyone else pays - they just weren't used to it) and too little energy - the Cali grid is designed for self-sufficiency...there were some cases of "overcharging" but I contend that when you ask or in many cases FORCE an energy company to produce more than it should saffely by restarting old, polluting plants, the THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHARGE YOU WHATEVER THEY DAMN WELL PLEASE - CHOSE ANOTHER COMPANY TO BUY POWER FROM!!!...I
In Texas, we built more power plants, raising the supply - thus lowering prices...this also took the old, polluting plants off-line for now, where we hope to mothball them permanently...No thank you to increased CANCER to feed the power needs of California! ...You don't have to thank us for solving Cali's problem for now!...however, this is temporary...
Solution: until Doc Brown can produce a Macro Mr. Fusion, FUEL CELL plants should be developed - this will take 10 years or more, but the time to start is now.
The results: (1) escape from dependence on Mideast oil
(2) large reduction of pollutants and CO2 emissions
(3) SAFE AND RELIABLE POWER
Davis, chose not to be pro-active or problem solve, but whine like a vicitm. He also allowed pollution San Fran Bay in exchange for massive campaign contributions. I don't blame the citizens for the recall. In the last electioni, the Republicans put up a convicted criminal to oppose a non-convicted one like Gray Davis - that's a choice??!! The Democratically controlled California legislature shares some of the blame as well.
Incompetence of State Officials is not a partisan issue...Our current Governor in Texas is a Republican, has poorly managed the state and should be recalled as well. I have talked to my state Senator regarding after midnight (by-passing the legislature) slashes in Education...and they are PISSED. Meanwhile, half the legislature is hiding in new Mexico to avoid a quorum of gerrymnadering legislation, instead Any Texans out there - EVERYTHING MUST GO...vote out all incuments in the next election...we could use a Recall clause in OUR constitution!!!
User: StAl | Month: 7 | Day: 16
Message: Dano: Great story. One way to know for sure is to look at his website: http://www.johnlodge.com/
Does that look like the same guy? ALso, I can verify they played the states earlier in the Summer. They opened the Marymoor Park concert series here in the great NW in late May/early June I think it was.
Yeah, what happened to Mike Pinder?
I need some help from any Northeast types. I need to know if Ticketmaster was selling tickets to the SPAC show for $125. I looked on the Ticketmaster website and the most expensive ticket I could see was $85. I had to delete a post on the ticket exchange due to someone asking $125. I need to know if this is a legitimate price. Any help would be appreciated.
Really looking forward to hearing the new Guestbook Compilation CD that CLas is working on. How's that coming by the way?
Good to see things are getting back to normal back east. Sorry to hear about your trials there JohnnyFever. That really does suck.
StAl
User: Jimbo | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: If I was a New York resident, I'd have mixed feelings about the last two days. On one hand, I would have been concerned about potential looting,
spoiled food and another part of the economy going down the drain. Sometimes, I think the Republicans might have had a hand in this just like the Energy crisis in California which is the reason Gray Davis has, by no fault of his own, has his back against the wall.
On the other hand, it would have been a definite social get-together. If it happened at a bar or a jazz club, I would have stuck around, talk to some of the finest women in New York and ask them if like a good Cuervo Gold. As long as any of them looked like the Sex and the City girls or Padma Lakshmi, that would have been fine with me. Maybe I would have asked her if she had a boyfriend she had broken up with and had an extra spare ticket to the Steely Dan concert at the Ballroom. Wishful thinking, Jimbo!
Anywho, I'm glad things are back to normal. Now, let's be careful out there shall we?
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: Paroxysmal or is it Paralyzing thoughts about Lunch With Gina
OK, HereÆs the DealàClassic Steely Dark Comedy
Gina = The Grim Reaperàa female spectre in this song
Lunch With Gina = Death
ôThat must be her again
She's leaning on my bell
That cold psychotic ring
The one I know so wellö
My RideÆs Here, Warrenàthe hooded one is a callinÆ
ôSo I'm nailed to the floor in the no-option zone
There's about zero chance she'll give up and go homeö
The Grim Reaper always gets her prey
ôThis endless afternoonö
IÆm just growing old
ôIt started on the day I met herö
Young men donÆt think about death.
Middle-aged men do.
ôLunch with Gina is foreverö
Start thinking maggots hereà
ôShe's coming 'round the cornerö
Death is always around the corneràyou never know when sheÆll call
ôHer body's just a blurö
ThereÆs no escape
ôI peel out like The Flash
It don't mean boo to herö
Love these linesàyou can run, but you cannot hide. NothingÆs more scary than the Grim Reaperà no one could spook herà
ôSo I duck into Nino's -- she's barred from the placeö
NiN, churchàstill working on this one
ôThe minute I walk out she's right in my face
She's got nothing but timeö
The Grim Reaper is the ultimate stalker
ôNo use in trying to be clever
Lunch with Gina is foreverö
Yes, a date with the Grim Reaper is forever
ôNow I'm in my apartment
The blinds down the lights out
The phone rings God help me
There's nobody homeö
You havenÆt got a prayer
ôI crouch on the carpet
Not breathing just being
Like meat on the boneö
If I just play dead here, maybe sheÆll go away
ôI'm in a cozy booth
Maybe my watch is fastö
IÆm dead, but I donÆt know it?
ôAnother Tanqueray
I'll wait 'til twenty past
I'm about to go postal when she waltzes in
I guess she's a knockout -- hey where have I been?ö
Hey, whyÆs everything going white? Gina sure has fine bone structure
ôThe waiter never comesö
No shoes no service
ôGod knows the service could be betterö
A funeral Service
ôLunch with Gina is forever
Coffee and a kissö
The kiss of death
ôMaybe later maybe never
Lunch with Gina is Foreverö
What next? Anything? A pool of Margaritias? A Party Record? The Ultimate Questionà
User: Johnnyfever | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: Just drove from Buffalo to Toronto and back for the last TWO nights and NO STEELY DAN! Got to Toronto last night only to be told that the show was moved to tonight. OK, no problem. We drive back to Buffalo. Checked the Molson Amphitheatre website today and it said Steely Dan would play tonight at 7:30. Got into Toronto this afternoon only to find out the show is postponed indefinetley. Now I know what it feels like to be fucked in the ass!
If anyone else had this same bad experience, feel free to write. Misery loves company!
User: world ma, king of the | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: YGK----- Great words.
Dano--- Great story. Did you find out where they buried Mike Pinder? Though that might have been rude.
John--- For once in my life, I'm sure I've nailed the basic meaning of a SD song, and don't feel the need to dwell on it further. I'll make a thorough trip to the SD lyrics site for others, though. Thanks.
Uday--- Nice shave.
User: Aussie | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: Wow. Our household was went twenty-six hours without power and light. Malcolm's characterisation of the way New Yorkers reacted was spot on. This City has matured big time sinse having to deal with Nine Eleven. No looting. No violence. Just Cooperation (like civilians taking it upon themselves to direct traffic on the busy streets [the traffic lights were out too]).
So glad to be back in the electric age.
Aus
addendum to earlier post: Apparently those Greek coffee cups are still being used, although not as omnipresent as they were back in the day....probably had something to do with the monopoly that Greeks had on diners and greasy spoons in NYC.....perhaps many of then made their respective fortunes and moved on to early retirement.
User: wormy | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: ygk - yes the blackout went smoothly in NYC
but would it have pre 9/11???
enjoy the Jones Beach SHow, I love your album
rush out and buy it gang!!!! before the next reprinting lull
Cara Mia - I am NOT making Atlanta, sorry
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: The Pat Conroy of NYC...could be a song...
Looks like Lake Erie (loop circuit around the lake) OR one of Herington's scorching guitar solos at the Cleveland show is the culprit...
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: Aja: I'm still digesting........
see you soon!
ygk
User: Aja | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: YGK-when does your first novel come out? I'm serious-that was one vivid post. Now I'm sorry to have missed the blackout. See you soon!
Aja
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: Wow û what a dream!
It was as if the entire East Coast went into Blackout û NO FrigginÆ POWER! Mayhem in the City? Hardlyàà..frankly, quite the opposite.
So IÆm listening to EMG on my walkman, strolling amongst strangers, folks lighting cigarettes in restaurant windows, backlit by candles; people making new friends, caught up in the moment; a lone guitarist playing his now acoustic gig, explaining to the crowd why heÆs unplugged; a few û very few û hostile spirits, but they, like the gentle summer breeze, disappear as quickly as they arrived. I saw views from the top of my friends building, staring at the behemoth towers, now mostly dark with scatterings of crowds æround candles û and then û FLASH! û the flicker of flashbulbs capturing the time. Back in the street, people float by like friendly ghostsààflashlights flashing locations and steps to be taken; a completely surreal scene of wonder û where the familiar is new again û when viewed through the fog of instant antiquity. No, no, no: there were no riots, no looting, no exceptional acts of evil, just the peace of people congregating in their city; card games by candlelight; sedated conversation, laughter and loving in this wild world; this salacious city; where everyone could just sit back and relax and chuckle; and where the flood of headlights became the evenings only real intrusion. What a dream.
ygk
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: Randy: you're right - Stevie Winwood's voice sounds incredible still! Very organic. Take out the Hammond organ and it reminds me a little of of Dream in Blue and Kiko and the Lavender Moon from the Los Lobos' masterpiece Kiko...
...back to work...
User: DACW - always breathing in, never breathing out | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: C: Oh, sorry - just forgot to exhale...
User: Aja | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: Dano-great story! Will get muellered in your honor at next week's show, that is, if they can get the lights back on.
Aja
User: angel | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: Dano: What a story! It is probably true, too. Moody's play places like Las Vegas every March, so it would not suprise me if they were playing somewhere last month.
User: fife | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: Just a quick note. The show is not on tonight in Toronto. I phoned the venue and they are quite certain about this, uggggg!!!!
User: Dano | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: Guys , This is the wierdest shit!! One for the oldies??
i am on holiday this week , and about an hour ago says to the wifey , im off to have a bet on the horses at the Bookies. So there i am talking the shit with a couple of buddies , and this guy starts talking to me about the nags?? Never seen him before in my life , never seen him in the shop, so we are talking about horses and shit and he says he owns a couple of horses with this trainer , but he is just back from Touring and looking round these parts for a farm house?? So me in my curiosity said along the lines , i am still into music bigtime even though towrads the big five o , and he says same as that if you love it then keep following the bands. To this point i am getting curioser and was starting to talk about Don and Walt and my favourite band since i was a kid?? So he says , and bearing in mind he wouldnt let on who he was , said you must have seen my group when you were younger?? Looking at him , Silver Hair looking mid fifties and short i said having a laugh, Rock and Roll must have treated you well if you can gamble and own horses and looking to buy a big farmhouse... Well he says if you have just been on an American tour and have a few bob why not spend it?? So i says right come on lets be having it who are you , we were having a good laugh at this point and he knew i loved the music, so he says i have been playing for 40 years with the Moody Blues and have actually played the states just last month...It was non other than John Lodge?? After this i was talking about the States and he said he just played Pine Knob last July??Dont know if this is true , but to be fair top guy good laugh and didnt have the heart to tell him he looks like shit?? Gone is the flowing locks and good looks but silver hair and to much drink have taken there toll like me i suppose , but at least i had a few minutes of fame with a top geezer.
Dano
User: foghorn leghorn | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: i say, i say, i need to tell ya'all, what i mean to say is... NIMo Sucks!
User: Randy | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message:
Steely-folk,
For those in the NYC area, tickets went on sale for Steve Winwood at the Beacon Theatre (concert date: October 9th) this morning at 10:00am; I managed to nab 13th row; Tickets are $78. (Also taking in the Steely show this Sunday at the venue formerly known as the Garden State Arts Center.)
Winwood is touring to support what may be his finest solo effort, 'About Time' (2003). His set lists thus far have had some emphasis on classic Traffic material, which falls in line with the material on his new album. The album embraces extended song forms with emphasis on improvisation and "world music" oriented percussion along the lines of the classic works of Santana, with Winwood making facile use of his abilities on B-3 organ as a centerpiece. Surely one of the best releases of 2003; more in-depth analysis and review coming soon to my site:
http://hometown.aol.com/nightfly62/Nightfly.html
Randy
NIGHTFLY**@aol.com
User: WEBDRONE | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: status of Toronto show uncertain - initially thought postponed to tonight, now uncertain. Safest bet is to check with venue throughout day. pass it on please - thanx SDWeb
User: C | Month: 7 | Day: 15
Message: I'm searching for the album "20th Century Blues", Robin Trower.
Does anybody know anything about this album?
Stevie?
User: C @ Work | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: DAWC - inspired? Good.
Molly - thanks.
YGK - got your email, looking forward to hear the stuff. We talk later which ones to pick.
User: cara mia....yes, Atlanta, maybe Roseland | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: Yes, Worm-man, I'll see you and Oleander in Hotlanta. Looking forward to it!
Depending on friends' plans I may make it to the Roseland night(s).
Best to all,
cara mia
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: Moll: Mrs. Mu saw the ticket prices - just me and the mu-lets...
Clas: I'm inspired...
User: majordude | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: nice reviews, how about some set lists-have there been any changes in the last few shows i would also like to know if there is gas in the car? thanks fellow danfans. peace
User: John | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: King,
Not sure how obscure Time out of Mind is or isn't. Other perspectivs: http://www.feverdreams.net/toom.htm
All best,
John
User: king of the world | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: The Chicago area has also had a big venue renamed the Tweeter Center, but I don't remember which. Either the Rosemont Horizon, or the World Music Theater (?). Tweeter is an electronics store, CD players etc., formed from some merger I think, in the late 90s. United Audio and something else, I think. Just one more arena (Oh... Rosemont is Allstate Arena. Though why should you or I call it that, when it wasn't US they paid to change the name?!) brand-named.
Re lyric significance: Molly-- "Time Out Of Mind" isn't very obscure or hard to figure. It makes fun of cult religions just as "Botthisatva" did. It's very Randy-Newman-like, goofing with the ignorance of the followers with the insightful characterizing of Tibet as the place where "people are rolling in the snow (in other words, it's cold)... far from the world we know." Reminds me of "Yellow Man" by R Newman, where he describes Mr. Eponymous as "Eating rice all day... while the children play." "Got to have a yellow woman, when you're a yellow man!" Then he plays cliche "Chinese" piano music.
I'm a bit slow, I guess, but I only recently got a couple of good jokes in Boddhisatva. The repetition of the title phrase as a Buddhist chant, and "I'm going to sell my house in town" as a shallow, hypocritical excuse for a sacrifice of material things. I'm sure his other house was the nice one.
I usually go by the rule, in interpreting lyrics, that songwriters are trying to communicate and be understood, not trying to hide meanings or trip you up. They want you to get it. Granted, I picked here the worst 'band' to apply that rule to. But they're generally not going to go for symbolism so convoluted or obscure that no one will get it. They want to communicate. An intelligent person with some reading and life experience under his belt ought to have a fighting chance. Not that I've had all that much luck.
I had to go get the song and put it on, to remember other jokes... "this is your chance to believe what I've got to say..." Gee thanks for the opportunity. They do twist things around like that, to gain access to the unprotected back door to your head, don't they?! "Keep your eyes on the sky... put a dollar in the kitty... don't the moon look pretty!" This is a funny song. Gaze into this glittering, brightly colored 'religious icon' I'm swinging back and forth in your face, while I quietly and expertly pick your pocket! (So to speak.)
I'm pretty clear on the stuff on Royal Scam, when I'd expect that to be the most convoluted. I finally did figure out "King of the World". Mixed bag for the rest. Half and half on a lot of songs.
User: Crawler | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: Tweeter is an electronics store that sells mostly sound equpiment.
I hate how venues are named after companies now. There are so many Verizon Centers it's rediculous. Great Woods was a great name for a venue, Tweeter sounds like...well..Tweeter.
It'll be a sad day when The Gorge is named The Dunkin Donuts center. But that day will come.
User: jjeff | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: Be thenkful it didn't happen in the winter!! This will be a long night for many people in New York, Toronto, Cleveland, Detroit,...
User: Breaking... | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/08/14/power.outage/index.html
User: Moll | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: DACW, I wish babe. My little wild man was sick and so I missed the Blossum performance. I guess he's the one thing I'd miss a Steely concert for. As far as I can tell at the moment I don't see how I could possibly see them again. I am going to see Hiatt in Atlanta if all goes well. How's the remodeling going? I'm still in the thick of things. Flooring is now installed and so I'm painting everything that doesn't have a pulse these days. I'll be down in El Paso next month. I'd love to meet you and Mrs.Mu for a drink.
Clas, you're too funny. lmao
User: Hutch | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: DJMitch - Unfortunately, according to this review, Donald's mother passed away recently. His father and sister were in the audience though.
http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/entertainment/106085387768850.xml
User: Aussie | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: YGK:Congrats on your new line of gigs. The Chez Suzette gig's on my B-day too! Great!
The Greek Coffee Cup: For dozens of years, that was the standard to-go coffee cup in just about every diner and greasy spoon in New York City. That cup has now gone to the wayside and has become a bit of a cult-icon only to be found on those groovy teeshirts found in alphabet city boutique shoppes and worn by wonderwaif models and skater slacker types. My educated guess on the greek coffee cup found on the new Steely Dan 2003 tour shirts: a slice of classic New York City.
Aus
User: Audi TT | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: /smacks self upside head
I had imagined a more upscale lunch date, what with the Tanqueray and all. Anyway, if you're gonna sell tee shirts about it, you oughtta friggen play it!
User: DJ MITCH@ WJAZ, MT.BELZONI | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: The Cleveland show was a gas....... Donald stated that Blossom was one of the best concert venues in the country.........very energized crowd acknowledged that Fagen`s parents were in the crowd...(they live in Cleveland) only setback was not finding Dartwoman at the Blossom Cafe.......bummmer.......FANTASTIC SHOW,
User: asdf | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: http://www.cleveland.com/search/index.ssf?/base/friday/1060335761303230.xml?ymuse
I think DF might be quite literal when he talks about getting a new skeleton. He looks better on this tour than he has in previous ones.
User: angel | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: Audi TT: Coffee and a Kiss.
User: lp | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: bad news, wormy - i am in the northeast kingdom of vermont next weekend so i must miss suzanne vega
psyched for the weekend and next week though
see you rumblestrip and MIB -
NMN, you in?
GE, email me - can you come east this weekend?
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: Clas: check your email.........disc shortly........
Wormy: how's your ears?
We're giggin' September 4th at "the Banana", September 18, Le Bar Bat, and Oct 25 at Chez Suzette.
Be on the lookout folks, for some wonderful photos from PNC.....
It shall be "quite the 3some"........hee hee!
ygk
User: Audi TT | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: Tweeter? Just shove it between www and dot com and all will be revealed. (As will nissan, mars music, ad nauseum)
In re: The Steely Dan Tee Shirt
What is up with the greek diner coffee cup? I'm missing a reference here.
User: Hutch | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: Manassas is going to BE sore.
Damn, if ya can't type the jokes out right you'll die every time!
User: Hutch | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: Rajah - Yeah, I had the same reaction when I saw those boxers. A sad situation is what it is. Down, down the dark ladder.
I tend to agree with you about Godwhacker. It's unfortunate (well actually, in my opinion, disgusting) that so much violence and hatred has been brought about by dogmatic religious beliefs.
Dano - Don't know where Tweeter comes from. We've got a lot of Native American names over here. I grew up in a county in Virginia named Gloucester, which of course is a British name, but we had little areas of the county with names like Zanoni, Naxera and Wicomoco. And then there are other areas down there that just have odd names like Glass, Coke and Achilles.
So I'm going to the SD show on the 27th at the Nissan Pavilion in Manassas, another "Indian" name.
Manassas going to pretty sore after a two hour show but it'll sure be worth it.
Here's hoping the boys decide to come your way.
When some friends and I came to London two years ago we were trying to make it out to Twillingtonham - on - Lancastertonshire but sadly it was not meant for us!
Hope you're doing well.
Hutch
User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: OK Dano, great observation on the funky names for the Yank venues. It's all about money mate. These arenas sell their naming rights to large corporations for periods upwards of 6 to 10 years for a big payoff. Tweeter has me stumped though. We're so commercialized in America, I swear, when I started to see professional boxers with "GoldenPalace.com" stamped across their backs, I pretty much knew we'd reached the bending end fer shur. It's only the begining of the end, though, it's gonna get a whole lot worse before the end. Man that sounds a lot like the theme of Everything Must Go, dunnit son?
User: Dano | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: Guys , What is it with the names over the pond, I cant work out why there is two Tweeter Centres in Boston and Philly?? And that is such a wierd name, Can anyone fill me in with the scoop on that name and the origin?
Also what is all this about...
Konocti (Sounds like something you tell the Doctor you have)
Harveys Outdoors (A shop selling tent equipment)
Gorge Amphitheatre (Bullfights in Redneck Country)
Fiddlers Green (Dodgy place to meet wierd Steely people)
XCEL Centre (Very large place?? Don and Walt are ten feet tall)
Schottenstein Centre (Where the Germans put the towels on the front rows)
Pine Knob (Hard seats and wooden willies)in front of D&W.
Hershey Park (Chocolate filled Tangerine trees and Marshmallow skies)
Hi-Fi Buys (Massive PA Systems , you can purchase after the show)
Mars Music Amphitheatre ( As Baloo says Im solid Gone Man)
Shelby Farms ( You can imagine the mice playing the Air Guitar below ground , rockin and rollin)
But the Tweeter Centre has me well muellered in laughter??
PS. I was not on acid when this was done , i just wanted to use the imagination cells in the old heed to keep them functional.
I take full responsibility for my actions.
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaano.
User: Hutch | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: Tour merchandise is up on the ODP.
http://www.steelydan.com/emgmerch.html
User: wormy | Month: 7 | Day: 14
Message: Ole - unfortunately Atlanta and I do not have a date
I'd love to see you and perma and Cara Mia
I can't even get stuck inside of Memphis with some Mobile blues again, Houston or Dallas as schedule didn't work out with the family units
but am catching Albuquerque in close on an extended geo hiking trip out west with my Michigan buddy. I had to give up my front row center seats in Manchester and a trip up to maine (business is thriving and I was held back).
steviedan - I'm listening right now to two Gabriel shows from the summer 03 tour
these ones were a bit on the expensive side
not as easy on the green ones as a pearl jam venture
$25 each double with $7 each shipping
but straight house soundboards with additional crowd noise mics piped in
quality stuff
the dan should get petitioned to let www.themusic.com do the same treatment on their stuff (second leg?????)
anybody want to spearhead this? Mr Beemer??? somebody with connections?
User: steviedan | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: just here to drop off this big ass cake...
happy birthday(s) to snakehips, majordude, batl apl !!!
one of my students just caught the allmans and picked up one of those "insta-live" cd sets. talk about the shiz ! three discs, high quality sound, decent package (sans track listing, avec personel). twenty bucks. any chance the dan might get in on this hustle ? i'm in for a complete set ! anyone ? bean counters ?
User: Clas | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: Dr Fill is saying a couple of wise things re the Guestbook CD.
Go there and get inspired:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill
Or click the URL above.
User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: Slinky, please, that's the most tortured reading of Godwhacker I've heard yet, your politics notwithstanding. Don told us what Godwhacker is about: getting rid of the Western deity, i.e., the great white father, who seems to be causing more trouble than he's worth. Actually it's not hisself what needs to be whacked but the nutjobs of this world who twist his message to suit their ends. Yikes buddy.
User: C @ Work | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: re "Slang..." - I come to think of John Entwistle when I heard that song the first time. Aging rockstar with a heart disease, on a hotel room with coke and a stripteaser.
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So, you lazy bastards, how's it going with the composing and recordings?
JayDubz?
Schwinn?
Hutch?
Roy?
Stevee?
YGK?
W1P?
Kevin?
Emmanuel?
etc etc
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/sketchesandstrangeloops
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StAl - do you read your emails?
User: Slinky_Redfoot | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message:
Anyway, thanks Guys for all the input regarding Slang of Ages but I'm still mesmerized by the meaning of the song. I think its better to leave it that way...Nice work Walt & Don. Life without you is a misery!
User: Slinky_Redfoot | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message:
In the song "GodWhacker" I believe when the lyrics said "there is no escape from the Rajahs of Erase, they actually mean the personalities of GWB,Donald Rumzfeld,John Ashcroft,Paul Wolfowitz, Condoleeza Rice, Collin Powell et.al. because of their spectacular erasing of the Taliban regime and recently the Iraqi regime and applicable to all entity that they believe is against U.S. interest. "For crimes beyond imagining" part is related to the WMD that the US administration is pinning on Iraq due to the fact that in the end the U.S. hasn't prove the existence of such a thing in terms of Iraq. Let us just say out of this world accusations because they are obviously self-serving and exagerrated.Of course in public SD will not admit that interpretation due to certain political consideration but I'm wondering sometimes if The Principals are laughing at the back of their mind and saying, "Yeah Right"!
User: oleander | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: Hey Hutch--You going to Nissan? Please e me. It may be old home week, or at least half old home week.
That's whetted, wormsky. You coming to Atlanta?
User: wormy | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: all these show reviews are wetting my appetite
and this weekend we will hear from the NYC contingent
Auss, YGK, Lady B on Jonesing!
lp - you want to see heat and humidity
come on down to New Orleans in August or that six month season we call summer May-mid OCT
also LP, do NOT miss Suzanne Vega next week (thank me later)
I saw her with just her bass player - absolutely phenomenal
she'll have the full band next week
and I can't wait to hear your "golden circle" post on the Dan in Manchester w i c b t
listening to Peter Gabriel live - The Pine Knob show I attended late June
and CORE - YGKs Jazz Trio - great stuff
wormy
User: Xaa | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: Review of Blossom show.
http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/6521291.htm
I can tell from your license plates
That you're from out of state
User: DACW - I can't drive 55 | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: Hey StAl: Heard they passed a law in Seattle so the the police can't chase anybody in pursuit. This stoopid law is "designed" to reduce the risk of high speed chase accidents, but then EVERY TEEN in the city will now drive like a fool past the cops smashing into far more pedestrians and buildings...
Upside down weather. Europe's getting slowly out of the oven, but we had "cool front" first!...70s and 80s (25-30¦C) here the past 2 days - and "DRY" today...taste of Fall - this bodes well for next month's concert...often still is 100¦ in September...knock on wood - just ONE WEEK of hot weather this year?!!! (i.e., >=100¦F)...I predict 71¦ with a light, cool breeze after a brief shower on 9/21...
Moll: glad you saw the Chicago show - going for the trifecta?
Peg = old girlfriend now porn star
Dr. Wu = drug habit, then pusher, then becomes the ER crew after OD as he fades away
TOOM = drug party meet the pilantir from The Hobbit
User: Moll | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: No GE I think Peg is about a porn star... Done up in blue print blue, it sure looks good on you. When you smile for the camera.....etc... Please expound on why you feel I'm mistaken about my interpretations of "Time out of Mind" and "Dr. Wu." I can give a pretty good argument to support my opinion, I'd love to read yours.
Hey BB, I crossed my wires crossed and was at the wrong Airport! *kisses*
King of the World, hey Sugarman. *hugs and many kisses*
Re: Slang of Ages.. It's about the bullshit lines men use on women to get in their pants. The term " slang of ages" is about sex and the many slang terms for it.
Now off to let my favorite Bodyguard guard my body...
User: lp | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: dano, GE - great to see you in here!!!!!
yes, i must give the foghorn a call to see if he will come in for a spell
need to go off my meds first for a while, though, right?
OMG - LOLOLOL
it's the heat and the humidity folks - it's moldy here - the moss is lovin life on the island but the rest of use are sprouting fiddleheads
lol
User: Jeffrey Lovell | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: Getting psyched for the show in Big D in September. I've been to most of the Dan shows in Texas since the tours started, including the '93 show in Houston. I forget who the opening guitarist was, but he put on a great montage.
Take care Strangers!
User: batl apl | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: Oh, Gosh, oh golly, it's another birthday (mine, 44), and I can't wait for tonight's surprise party.
I hope someone suits me with the slang of ages so I too can be eternally hip and score with the pederasty set.
I'll settle for Santa Barbara tickets, where they also haven't played since '74, I think.
Has anyone noticed how Micheal McDonald-friendly the playlist is? Micheal and Kenny Loggins are doing a tour this summer but there probably is a chance of a Micheal appearance sometime.
Probably at the S.B. date, so hold your collective breaths. On the degrees of separation front, my wife used to be Micheal's son's pre-school teacher in S.B.
"That rusty, rusty blender, that rusty, rusty blender, what are we going to put in that rusty, rusty blender..."
User: snakehips | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message:
Aw....thanks to all for the birthday wishes. You guys are so thoughtful.(especially that trusty angel girl...lol)
I haven't been at work for almost a week...so I'll have to get back to you later with my thoughts about Monday's concert at Pine Knob - yep, if Donald's gonna call it Pine Knob - I'm callin' it Pine Knob...lol
btw - THEY WERE SOOOOOOOO EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
luv,
sh
"this place is great - intimate but substantial"....Donald at Pine Knob 8/11/03
User: Rajah of drop tabs of something or otherErase | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: The concensus on Slang of Ages seems to be a little narrative about a guy's strange and brief relationship with a squirrely gal from Amsterdam. She's probably high on something cause her face is in an altered state, it's from outta state. He's just met her and I believe they drop tabs of something or other which the narrator ain't too certain of but joins her nonetheless, they look iffy, she says they're good. Probably against his better judgment, he decides to roll with the homies, knock on wood and go for it. These cliches also reveal his age. He wants to be dropped off in Groovetime which could mean he wants to go to a very comforting place, a place maybe he's been before many times. The groove in music hardly needs to be explained here, it's that great place when the song is really cookin, the feel created by great rhythmn playing. He wants to be soothed with either 1) a conversation centered around this new substance they are ingesting or 2) the colloquialisms, euphemisms or jargon about the drug. She then freaks out over something he either said or did. Maybe he scared her or maybe she was just loosely hinged; he did, after all, question whether she was from the Netherlands or netherworld, a kind of shadow world where dead souls wander in Greel mythology. She might be a goth gal. So anyway he tells her to piss off; there's a little place he wants her to go, it's called be there (not here) now, in other words, get lost you freak. He then continues on his way to Groovetime which seems to be quite a nice space for him and reiterates his desire to be calmed by this Slang stuff, maybe the thoughts or words in his head while feeling the not displeasing effects of this substance he's injested. Or maybe the Slang of Ages is jargon from the jazz age, the slang that musicians still use for things musical and sometimes non-musical.
I get the feeling Walter took some new drug with some goth chick he met in Amsterdam lately, maybe X, maybe a comforting old joint of Mr. Green. This girl freaks out on him and he sends her packing, continuing his high and wondering if she was a ghost from his drug-laden past (are you a part of the dreaming, the end of my life so far) Or maybe she's somewhere in between, you know, something old, something new.
I'm happy with part of this explanation, not completely though.
User: Beerberian | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: GE; "alter boy" ? and plastic surgeon in the same post don't even go there .....LOL
User: Hutch | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: Slinky - Check out Oleander's site. Here's the link to Slang of Ages speculations:
http://www.feverdreams.net/slang.html
User: Slinky_Redfoot | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message:
Can someone shed a light on the meaning of the song Slang of Ages. Its a pretty cool song but its meaning is quite snarky and deep. I want to know your take guys. Will really appreciate it. Slang all of you!!!
User: Dano | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: Did i say that twice , I say did i say that twice
Foghorn Leghorn.
User: Dano | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: Snakie , Hope you had a Dooser of a birthday. Lashed on the Mick Jagger a few Tin Baths and Steely Dan thrown in .Jeez must be great to be a 21 again.Bill taking you to the Arlington Race lol lol.
Danoxx
User: Dano | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: Snakie , Hope you had a Dooser of a birthday. Lahed on the Mick Jagger a few Tin Baths and Steely Dan thrown in .Jeez must be great to be a 21 again.Bill taking you to the Arlington Race lol lol.
Danoxx
User: GE | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: Caught an episode of the FX networks new titilation show Nip & Tuck last night. Show is about a couple of plastic surgeons one "good" and one "bad". The bad one went to a Porn Star party trolling for new clients and the background music at the party was of course Peg. All dressed up in blueprint blue indeed. Somebody gets it I guess. Wondering if Moll sees Peg as a story of a lost nun or alter boy song? 8^)
Looking forward to Roseland on the 12th and keep me posted on pre/post party plans.
GE
User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: Waiting to hear an informed review of last night in Cleveland, especially as to DF's pipes. First reviews are positive. It can't be easy playing these outdoor shed arenas.
User: Beerberian - precinct 49 | Month: 7 | Day: 13
Message: JJeff; You would be correct Sir ! Top Time ... Royally Scammed !! - Although there may have been a touch of Beerstroke LOL - Lot cooler this week but the sun still shines on the Danless UK
Moll; Where were you ? ... I waited @ the airport, corsage in hand ! Is it me or did that sound more than a tad euphemistic ? Hidey Ho ...
User: king o'world | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: It seems I deleted by accident the programs that make the print usable for me. The yellow is again yellow instead of black with huge white letters. That's how things go for me. Any ideas on how to get this stuff back would be very, very much appreciated.
DACW--- good remarks. I think promo CDs sent to DJs ought to have a different sequence of songs, but the one for the public should have the great slow build that almost every great album has.
SD was mockingly close to me last Friday. Glad you made it Molly.
User: Pedro_do_Brasilera | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: (last message: Moll)
User: Pietro de Brasil | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: Whoa; I love it. As of this post I am out to join either Est or Gestalt, depending on which office is closest/extant! Ah, who am I kidding: I'll just join the church of scientology like the rest of L.A. I hear the food fights in the L. Ron Hubbard cafeteria are fantastic ....
:-)
Very interesting interpretation(s) ....
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User: jjeff--Where's the party at, officer? ( loved that reference, whoever) | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: BB:From reading post4088 I take it you had a good time at a SD tribute band and/or were heatstroking. How's the humidity with the high temps?
We're only hitting 30C but the air is saturated in between thundershowers. At least we're not worried about fires.
LadyBayside: How's about a SIS T-shirt from St. Al? He might even throw in one for publicity.
User: YGK | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: WatchOUT for the MSBlaster Worm, which has caused use to update/apply patches to 2,039 systems overnight........
what a headache........
FYI
ygk
User: Floridavid | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: SnakeHips!! Happy Birthday Girlie....
User: Moll | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: Hi everyone, I hope you are all doing well. I loved seeing DF&WB in Chicago. It's a memory that I'm sure will linger when I'm old and half senile. Unfortunately my plans to see Steely in Cleveland has gone pear shaped. Alas, it wasn't meant to be. :-) Still, I hope that whoever is attending has a wonderful time.
Paco de Brazaville, because of the religious symbolism in Dr. Wu, I tend to think the song is about a Cult-type leader such as Sun Yun Moon. Also it is an apt Sociological comment on the time that Dr Wu was written. Many people turned to alternative religions for solace in the 70's. I also happen to think " Time Out Of Mind" was about a religious experience rather than drugs. Chasing The Dragon could be a reference about using smack,but could also be Chasing the Devil (ie....Christianity) or chasing after knowledge and/or wisdom (ie.... Eastern Philosphies) The reference to the Mystical sphere of Lhasa makes me think it was used in the Eastern sense. But I suppose it's anyone's guess......
Bluz, thanks bud! Sam and Spike say "hi"
St.Al, I hope your shoulder is feeling better Honeyman. *kisses*
Snakehips, Happy Birthday. I hope you have lots of good things on your special day.
User: | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: I missed this...Did Prince Charles spear an antelope? or elope with Britney Spears??
User: majordude | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: hey snakehips we share a birthday.43 yrs young and never seen the dan looking foward to memphis show on 9/20.sd hasn't been to memphis since '73 !
User: Robin | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: TIME CHANGE FOR TONIGHT'S FESTIVITIES!
I just spoke with Blossom and the gates will not open tonight until 5:30! The Blossom Restaurant & Bar will open at the same time. We can't reserve a space, but I am sure we can stake out a section of the bar as needed.
T-minus 4 hours and counting to the Cleveland DanFest!
"Me and you will listen to
A little bit of what made the preacher dance"
User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: SteveeDaneo - Where iz you at and what's the setlist for Sunday night at the Baked Potato?
User: Paco de Brazaville (Congo) | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: Two questions:
1) Anyone know where I can get the chords to "Yellow Peril"?
2) Whatever happened to David Palmer? (Always been curious; not extremely curious, but a tad.)
3) Do you think Dr. Wu is a song about a junkie, and Dr. Wu is the dealer? (These things are always very subjective, just throwing it out there as conversational fodder.)
That (Dr. Wu) is an amazing progression: each verse gets progressively jazzier and "weirder," as though the song itself (like the narrator) is sinking every deeper into another world.
Very cool.
Dr. K: nice rant.
p
User: lp | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: hey
happy birthday to snakie!!!!
got my e's from the ny contingency - will respond soon - on deadline
psyched for this weekend - MARK IN BOSTON, can you email me at the above address (take out no spam) - want to coordinate the parking lot party - we are caravaning down from the northern suburban 128 ring at 4 PM - |||| is in my party as well!!!!!
anyone going to the new hampshire show next tuesday?
nmn, when are you going to a show or did you join the roseland group - lol
User: Hank Silvers | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: Pardon the me-too post, but wormy's review of CoreNYC gets an amen from this corner. 'Ol Hank says check it out...
User: DanAudioCrackWhore | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: Happy birthday snakehips!
A nice pic of Gregory Hines dancing on the Apple site home page
http://www.apple.com/
User: cure ree us | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: day twa? anyone?
User: jimmy crack corn | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: St. Paul, MN set list:
Aja
Time Out of Mind
Godwhacker
Caves of Altamira
Black Cow
Babylon Sisters
Slang of Ages (intro to the band)
Peg
Home at Last
intermission
Steely Dan Show
Janie Runaway
Hey 19
Haitian Divorce
Things I Miss the Most
Parker's Band
Josie
Kid Charlemagne
Don't Take Me Alive
encores:
My Old School
FM
User: It's snakehips' birthday? | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: "Oh my!"
Well Happy Birthday snakie!
rones
User: C | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: Happy birthday Snakie!
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Was over at a good friend yesterday. He played Robin Trower (sp?), and how great he is!
User: steviedan | Month: 7 | Day: 12
Message: zzzzzTT
chain lightning
did not feel so good
to my former modem.
now i've got to catch up, but first a couple of recorded sightings of past/present sd alumnae discovered in my listening regimen:
on the album "starfish & the moon" by former miles saxman bill evans. (yes, the young saxophonist, not the late pianist. that's right, miles collaborated with three evans. two bills and one gil. what are the odds ?) jon herington shares guitar chores with adam rogers and ms. caroline leonhart harmonizes with metheny vocalist david blamires. along with vinnie colaiuta, james genus, jim beard and others, some funky tight procedings are undertaken.
also apparently, drew zingg provides lead guitar and sitar fare to the first album by alana davis.
neither of these records are new. both pre-millenial, late 90s. just happened to spin them both over the last week, along with the rest of the usual dagwood pile...
somewhere in the initial skimming i believe i gleaned that st al was in great pain at some point. st al i do not feel your pain. i do not care to feel the pain you describe. but i do feel FOR you in your pain...
and i'm glad that at least you had the salve of the dan to ease some of it...
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: I'll never forget that television special Gregory Hines arranged for Sammy Davis Jr., who was dying. In what generally is a dehumanizing media, Gregory Hines beckoned Sammy Davis Jr. from his seat for one last (tap) dance, and staged a tete a tete where he drew one last great, sparkling, and spontaneous performance from the consumate entertainer. It was a wonderful gift and probably the most honorable, classy, and humanizing moment in the history of television...
User: StAl | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Mark in Boston: Please email me. Address above.
User: Jimbo | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: StAl- This afternoon, during my break for lunch, the diner had a sports channel on a they had a documentary of Yankees player Bernie Williams recoring his first album and there was clips of Bela Fleck contributing on some tracks.
Do you have the Cd and if so, how does it sound?
User: Jimbo | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Slinky- Gregory Hines' death was mentioned yesterday. He was 57 years old. He had been suffering from cancer, but he did not tell or let anyone know except maybe a few until the end.
He was a brilliant dancer and actor. I'll never forget seeing him more than a decade ago, on a televised tribute to Sammy Davis Jr. The scene of him doing a brief tap dance with Sammy, who was dying, was very poignant.
God rest his soul.
User: DACW - It's "R"-frame in San Fran now | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Herr Dokter: Yeah, you put the fire in the hole and jump start that heartbeat over again, and where does it get you?...watching the children playing as Walter and Donald taking questions at the R&RHOF!
Ingenious redesign of the alphabet in California BTW:
http://www.nbc4.tv/politics/2397061/detail.html
User: Slinky_Redfoot | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: HEY DACW,
WHERE DID YOU FIND THE STORY REGARDING THE DEATH OF GREGORY HINES? FRANKLY I COULD NOT FIND IT.
User: Doctor Warren Kruger | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: See that DACW, Paulo or Paolo or Pedro or Pablo knows a true musical genius when he reads one!
You people don't understand how truly great I am!
Back in the 70s, SD never would've gone on tour without me being there for psychotherapeutic first aid. I would literally have to hypnotize DF to get him out in front of an audience!
So you ask me why they haven't taken me on tour since then?
THAT'S WHAT I"M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT!!!!
You think they just wrote a song about me on 2VN?
They wrote tons of songs about yours truly!
Who do you think they were writing about in my undergraduate days when I was just beginning to understand the practical applications of chemistry?
I'll give you a hint: Every 'A' Frame had my name!
And that's not all- I allowed them to use my Japanese name when I first opened up the market for deludin in Japan. I'll give you another hint: It rhymes with Mu!
And what about all the scientific jargon they've used? Who do you think taught them how to use words like: grok, spitelock, panatella, masissi and apsatively?
And what thanks do I get? Just a one-way ticket to palookaville and a slap on the back!
I'm sitting here, masturbative, broke, bald, fat with a colostomy bag and those 2 guys are literally fighting off the groupies that once were mine, back in the 70s (that was the "payment" they offered me back then).
Well, this ain't over yet. They've got a surprise awaiting them once they hit z's hometown of Wantagh.
Sure, I can't afford to get in, but I'm gonna make a heck of a lot of noise from parking field 5- this Yugo I've been living in has a darn loud horn and I'm gonna honk it every time they stop in "Green Earrings"!!
Ha! That'll fix 'em!
User: wormy | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: my best friend up in Michigan is seeing the Dan right now in Pine Knob
I can feel it in my bones
we will compare notes in Albuquerque
run don't walk and contact YGK and pick up his jazz trio's cd before it goes out of print again - fabulous stuff - tasty musicianship with all the right space and elements
CORE NYC! "Tryin' to sort it all out"
it should be on a major label already
here's a description from their website
www.CORENYC.com
"The material is best described as Urban-blues-jazz with lyrics that resonate desire, hope and realization; material that speaks to a modern, sophisticated, street sensibility in a time of uncertainty."
detailed wormian review in a week or so after I soak in it's splendor
tom of wormdom
User: | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: than funky
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Slinky: It's more "pour a nice drink and lie on the couch next to me" music and FUNKY
RIP Gregory Hines...what a talented guy...
User: Slinky_Redfoot | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message:
IF THE RUMOR IS TRUE THAT BOB SHEPPARD HAS A FEW FUNKY TUNES UP HIS SLEEVE ON THE NEW ALBUM, ITS BECAUSE HE HAS MS. VICKY CAVE IN HIS POSSESSION. THAT'S A REAL INSPIRATION THERE I THINK! SLANG HIM!
User: | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: outstanding first
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: ANSWER TO POP QUIZ: FUSION guitarist ADAM ROGERS of LOST TRIBE played on both Norah Jones' and Walter Becker's first outstanding solo albums!! (scary that that's true). Walter of course produced Lost Tribe.
That reminds me - I started to believe some critics that Norah Jones' album had "simple" songs...that's until I picked up the songbook!!!
Has any one out there heard or possess the new Bob Sheppard album "In the Now"??! I sampled a few songs - sound incredible!!! - a bolus of Brubeck and a tad of 'Trane...
Angel, Hutch: Not bad. The Twin Cities reviews were on the mark. Nice to have intelligent, objective people writing these things for a change...
User: NYB | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Happy Birthday Snakehips!
Turning 21 is hard but you'll survive it.
Enjoy the Detroit show my dear! You deserve it more than anyone.
User: StAl | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Mark: We wouldn't be talking Farrelly Brothers, would we?
SOunds like a gas none-the-less. Have fun.
Thanks for the color on the Midwest shows everyone.
Damn Dallas seems like a long time off.
Bela Fleck on the 20th.
StAl
User: Pedro_do_Brasilera | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Dear Dr. K and DACW:
Both of your advices have proven very helpful; Dr. K, that was a thorough and helpful answer to my question.
DACW: Your advice to check out Howard Mu page is very helpful, and I have printed his Mu page as well for study.
Thanks!
Pablo Brazil
http://pablobrazil.com
User: Big Fan | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Janelightning do you still lurk? If so contact me please!
User: Rajah of Erase(lost in the mountains of Italy) | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Hey strangers, just borrowed my cuz's rigg and am back enjoying your comments. Distressing to hear Donald is botching lyrics still, whazzup wid dat. I'm sure he's still tightening himself up. I don't think we're going to get anything new until maybe the start of the 2nd leg. That's our last hope. Ciao my homies, give me more reviews.
User: Time_to_Bern | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: It was extremely enjoyable that SD played a lot of older, more obscure works at the Chicago show...maybe they're doing the same type of setlist for every show..but I wouldn't know. Once they busted into Parker's Band, I was in absolute heaven as they just got kinky with the setlist. Had a great time...and..I can't recall who's post was dissing Carlock, but I thought his Aja solo alone was worthy...yeah, I love Ricky too and love what he's doing with Wayne Krantz, but Keith is more a jazz drummer than R&B... but we can agree to disagree, as I respect everyone's opinions. My friends and I had seats on the floor, and since we hadn't seen SD since '96, we were just way into the show. Getting up, dancing, being extraordinarily supportive...is this considered being a "nuissance" at a Dan show? All I know is that people around us started following our lead, and by the end of the first set, we had riled up section 6 into a frenzy (a good frenzy).
And, where did you go, oh Dantress behind me? Damn, she skipped dimensions. Thanks to the crowd sitting next to us, supporting my buddy Brian during his bachelor concert, props to the major dude next to us in the Tang shirt for "provisions", and thanks most of all to the ladies behind us for rockin' and groovin' right along with us kidz, and for the flash of spectacular thigh.
And finally, thanks again to WB and DF; you guys are the kings, and to reciprocate WB, "you guys are a great f*$^ing band. Thank you."
User: El Supremo | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Hi, kids
Cant wait for SD to come down to South FLA next month!!! I got 12th row seats for me & Ms. Supremo. I'd love to hook up with other Dan freaks before the show. I CANT WAIT!!!
Here's an interesting site on a new artist named MC Honky. Download the video, if you haven't seen it. What a riot!: http://www.eelstheband.com/mchonky.html
Also: saw "Comedian" the other day (the Seinfeld documentary) & loved the music that was on there: Mingus, MMW, Steely Dan, The Band, & other greats. It's a must-hear as well as a must-see.
email me if you wanna hook up before the show.
Bye, ya'll
El S.
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Snakie? Birthday?
Many, many happy days ahead to you. Enjoy!
Dan are playing in Memphis on my birthday, but I don't think I'll be there.
*sigh* I detest Mondays.
Will be curled up under my desk in fetal position if anyone needs me.
LadyB
User: C'mon snakehips, it's all over now. Strap in tight cause it's a long sweet ride... | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Have an ultra-groovy time at the show tonight snakie! Try not to distract Don and Walt *too* much...
User: king richard | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: I'm sure you die-hards may be aware of this site, but I happened on it today. It offers some interesting SD auio and video.
http://www.broberg.pp.se/sd_sound.htm
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: PNC is this weekend (my first Dan show of the summer!) and Jones Beach fast approacheth.
I am, as you probably have heard, hosting the Jones Beach...I swear to some higher power that the darn website will be up in the next few days. Really. In the meantime, is there any way to ascertain how many folks we might expect to see at Jones Beach? (For PNC, YGK and I and another friend of his are just going to wander the parking lot in search of fellow GBers.)
I'm trying to gauge food, drinks, etc. I still need to figure out how to best be spotted....flags, perhaps? Take pity on me. HELP!
I need input. Suggestions, comments, etc. all welcome. I am going to be in Boston this weekend (though not for the show, just for Saturday night) and will only have this week and next for prep. I have been driving around for nigh on two months now with a BBQ grill in my car...so, that's covered.
Just by-the-by...went to see Dave Brubeck Saturday night at a venue in Oyster Bay. First, I pity those who actually bought the "good" seats. We picnicked on the lawn (I bow to those extraordinary folks next to us who brought not only a lovely little wood cocktail table, but a tablecloth and CANDLEABRA, for heaven's sake) and enjoyed some fabulous music (what an amazing musician, and he is approximately 157 years old!) and great wine and food. The highlight? He closed the night with Take Five and we closed the night with some Tennessee Tea. Yummy on both counts.
Okay, so email me with assistance. Even if you aren't going to the show.
Thanks!
LadyB
User: wormy | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: hutch has the same idea I was having over the weekend
add Deacon Blues - not substitute it
while they are at it
add
Lunch With Gina
and
Greenbook
and
Everything Must GO
come on Walt and DOn
that two hour time limit on a show
is just another "thing that must go"
take a longer break, throw deacon as second encore
take another break
if you gotta drop anything
Peg is at the absolute top of my list
done up in blueprint blue
it's time is overdue
and when you drop it from the setlist
we'll have some Lunch With Gina
wt
User: Beers | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: DACW; Securely Sweltering in the MIDlands mate ... was truly a scorcher on Sat / Sunday over here - UK record was smashed 100 Farenheit degrees plus - Heading for the coast next two weeks ...
User: Hutch | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: DACW - I guess that was a favorable review in the Tribune. Couple of unnecessary digs at DF... "hunched and grizzled" and "ironic that the band's weakest instrument, Fagen's voice, is it's greatest strengh". I imagine that could have been stated in a better way.
They should put Deacon Blues back on the list. Don't replace anything with it, just add it. It's probably the most classic Dan song of all.
User: angel | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Hey DACW! A reviewer that actually "GETS" it. I trust it more then most, cause he says exactly what we feel. Bring on the new, it's great!
User: angel | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Happy Birthday Snakehips!
May Donald and Walter do something very special tonight, in Detroit, just for you!
Enjoy your "almost" front row seats, too.
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Chicago Review
http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/mmx-gut17ep7e.2aug10,0,374353.story
Beer - you stayin' cool? ...near the coast?
User: Beerberian making the most of it .... | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: The Dan collective Friday 8th August 2003 û Carousal in Coventry
The Jail House Rocked à Imagine my surprise
Flash!!! arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhha No not that Queen song û but the noise made by Penno posing on speed camera number 137 on the way to Cov û Now LetÆs clean this mess up else weÆll all end up in jail à
Minor detour on inner ring road - donÆt know this super highway û stopped to ask the way from two of CoventryÆs ôfinestö WhereÆs the Jailhouse ? we queried à æspose you think thatÆs funny û cos I just come out of prison à. came the reply !!! oops Foot down Penno (gently this time thoÆ) Down here and turn around àand there it was - Could it be that I have found my home at last, Home at last ?
Summer Steamer ? anyone
The Lord of the earRings Verde smote that mighty axe and it was begun à It was like a dream come true à
And Just when you think you've heard this one beforeà
Look thereÆs only so many times I can use the ôPretzel Log Defiedö line !!! But it was û So let it be recorded that on Friday 8th Aug 2003 That this number was toured so far South , that Mr Beeston took it below the antarctic circle !! ( ahhh if only ætwas that cool) AND then THIS band built and BUILT it back to a gobsmacking, groin grinding pinnacle of a finish àBlues standard ?? , My Arse ,more like giving it Xtra LARGE !! IÆm beginning to think you boys are taking the piss à LMFAO
In the corner of my eye - A select and very appreciative crowd were royally treated to an equally LRG Black Cow àû And your remedies? -Take 8 pints of Carling and call me in the morning à
Shame on you guys playing ôhide the tambourineö The Babylon Sister only wanted to Shake it !!! With that raw flame That live wire she prayed like a Roman With her eyes on fire à
LetÆs face it The band was HOT so, we danced the famous the Merengue à Well sorta grooved in an unreserved gregarious kinda sway
Did you realize - That you were all champions in our eyes?
Gentleman û That must have felt GOOOOOOD cos it sounded MIGHTY FINE from Here !!
As I stagger homeward with my precious one à. Now where are you tomorrow ??
User: DACW | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Herr Dokter: You finally noticed that?! I know jack about music theory and heard it the second time I played the song! ...and posted Dr. Weiskopf's dance around the bridge back in June...
Paolo: I know you're already surrounded by loons since you reside in Louisiana, so don't listen to herr dokter, unless you enjoy paralysis by analysis. Multiple ODs of Deludin have clearly affected the man's hippocampus, where memories arre processed. It's the Howard Cosell effect - you remember everything, but know nothing... In contrast, our own Howard, Howard Wright has a fabulous tutuorial on the Mu chord - link on the Official Dan Page (steelydan.com)
signing off as your rock n' roll doctor of philosophy...such a little feat
User: tom killeen | Month: 7 | Day: 11
Message: Any one know of the setlist from 8-7-03 at the Excel Energy Center, St.Paul, MN?
thanks.
User: And don't forget: | Month: 7 | Day: 10
Message: http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill
User: Clas @ the daily work | Month: 7 | Day: 10
Message: Kruger - I'll give you for "amateur"! :-)
Really, what's wrong with homespun theory? I'm a philosopher, life is a poem, not a... not a... not something you learn from a songbook, you should know that, Kruger!
(and hey, thanx B!)
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dbeeffy - email me; clas at ateljelundkvist.se
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I know it is Steely Dan time around your neck of the woods, but I put up a couple of pics from Roy Hargrove's gig at the Stockholm jazzfest:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/hargrove
or click the URL above
User: Ben | Month: 7 | Day: 10
Message: Hey, gang....
Here's the setlist from 8/8 in Chicago
Set 1: Set 2: Encore: MOS and FM I am not too into Carlock. He's got incredible time, but not the R and B feel Lawson had. I didn't feel he and Barney got into the groove until real late, and thus I think some of it is like playing with a metronome instead of a drummer with some color in his playing. The choir of ladies received "The Chicago Manual of Style" books in the middle of a set. It was like the band got the joke, and all of the audience was on the outside of an inside joke. Hmmmm... The lights and the projections on the background were awesome!! They were great in '01 also, so seeing a variation on that theme was a nice addition to the music. The movie during HD was a crowning moment for the tune. The sound in the United Center is awful, and when not really full, the echoing can really ruin it. They sounded good Thanks for the tour, guys! Is this the last chapter? More to come.... Ben User: Boston Rag - Boston Danfest Info
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| Day: 10 Message: Less than a week to go until Donald and Walter roll into Mansfield!! If you were halfway thinking about coming to the Boston Danfest, this might change your mind. Check out our souvenir Slang Me t-shirt. We got plenty of sweet treats and surprises for the little buckaroos planned before the show. Be there! Mark in Boston User: Doctor Warren Kruger
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| Day: 10 Message: As I was crossing the Veracinzano Bridge to make some deludin deliveries in Shrapnel Island, it suddenly hit me- the Coltranesque intro to EMG- it's the exact same chords as the bridge to the same tune (EMG), Meinkampf- I mean Weiskopf- even plays a little of the last part of the melody, which of course ends on a dominant 11th chord to get us to the unexpected start on the IV chord! User: DACW
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| Day: 10 Message: AGNG: That's true in the sense that Walter is 1/2 or so of SD...however, I was thinking of let's say a LINK directly related to Walter's work outside the Dan... User: almost gothic negative girl
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| Day: 10 Message: Uhm, Album of the Year? A big thanks to everyone for sharing your concert experiences. Can't get enough reviews. Please keep 'em coming! Going back up to Tahoe tomorrow, where I last saw the Principals, et al. Hot fun in the summertime. Then back home Friday for Tower of Power at our little County Fair. Another guaranteed good time. I love summer!! User: Pop Quiz
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| Day: 10 Message: Quick, what to Walter Becker and Norah Jones have in common? User: King Richard
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| Day: 10 Message: Adding to Scott in Ft. Wayne's comments, I was also in attendance at the Columbus show - excellent concert. Here's a couple of my obversvations: I have never been to a concert where every guy washes his hands after taking a leak - now that's class. Hardcore SD fans are extremely intelligent - I felt my IQ jumped 5-10 points as soon as I entered the arena. A guy after the show at the Varsity Club (local bar) complained that he was dissapointed in the show. The only hit they played, he claimed, was "old school". Old School? Obviously, not a big fan. The fans didn't warm to Walt singing Haitian Divorce (or Slang of Ages for that matter). The best song of the show was Godwhacker - awesome rendition. I will say this about Walt; he appears very unselfish on stage, allowing other band mates to take center stage over him. The show goes by very quickly, the 2+ hours zoomed by. In the 2VN DVD, one of the girls interviewed at the beginning described her first SD concert. She said when you looked around all the people were bobbing their heads to the beat of the music. I had to laugh - I looked around last night and SHE WAS RIGHT! Even I!!! I had a t-shirt made up - a simple blue fruit of the loom with Steely Dan T-shirt ironed on in white block letters. Everybody loved it. People would come up to me complementing the shirt. All in all, excellent show and a great time. User: Aussie
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| Day: 10 Message: Scott in Fort Wayne: Terrific concert colour!! Thanks very much sir. Aus User: Scott in Fort Wayne, IN
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| Day: 10 Message: If anyone wanted to know, last night's show (Sat. 8/9) in Columbus was flawlessly spectacular ... or spectacularly flawless, depending on your perspective. Some highlights ... Donald and Walter were smiling the entire time, looking more amused than bemused as they're often wont to do. On 3 occasions when introducing songs, DF verbally mentioned the album Royal Scam by name (as if it needed introduction?) ... he said it before Haitian Divorce ... before Caves ... and for whatever reason, before Babylon Sisters (?!) We could not determine if he was just confused or trying to confuse everyone else on stage and in the audience. Regardless, it was rather funny. The large 21,000-capacity Schottenstein Center at Ohio State University(mostly used as a hockey arena) was nearly barren along the upper bowl; however, the floor and lower- and middle-bowls were quite full. So, maybe the venue was about 2/3 full, but looked emptier because of the largely empty upper level. At one point, WB addressed this topic and the audience, saying it was great to be back in Columbus, and "We'd like to thank the hundreds of you for coming tonight ... I know, this isn't a big college town." Nothing like a self-depricating Spinal Tap reference to make everyone smile ... The audience grew from polite at the beginning (sitting quickly once a song began) to on their feet and dancing - yes, dancing! - by the time the encores of MOS & FM were played. The few new songs interspersed in the set were very well-received and well-recognized, it seemed, and everyone appeared to just soak in the epic orchestration of the songs and the band's interplay and virtuousity. Just amazing musicianship, hands down the best performance of the 3 times my friends and I had seen them over the last decade. Some scattered close-up seats went unused on the floor, allowing us to quickly move from our row 30 or so floor seats up to the 12th row after a few songs, then up to the 5th row for the remaining 2/3 of the concert. We were on the far right side of the floor, which then made us close enough to see both the back-up singers and Mr. Fagen strut and preen their respective stuff quite admirably. Overall an excellent show ... nice interplay and showcasing for both the members of the horn section and the back-up singers ... the dueling - or is it dualing? - guitar masters with excellent and often faithful solos ... Carlock on fire behind the drum kit ... and Donald perched happily behind his keys often, yet frequently venturing into the spotlight with Walter to play both the synthesizer-that-hangs-like-a-guitar and the synthesizer-that-you-blow-into-like-a-horn (you can tell I know my instrument names really well). Oh well, now back to recovering today, knowing the 3 1/2 hours traveled each way to this epic show last night was worth it! GO TO THIS SHOW HOWEVER YOU CAN - IT IS SO WORTH IT! User: Hank Ballard & The Midnighters
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| Day: 10 Message: South..thank you..for ears and more played Friday Eric Alexander..Night Life In Tokyo.."island"(new) Antonio Carlos Jobim/Stan Getz/Gilberto "the girl from ipanema" Bobby Hutchersdon..Good Bait..'love samba" Lou Rawls..At Last.."good intentions" The Deacons w/Kenny Schopmeyer..Straight Up.."who will the next fool be"(londons mike hall on guitar) Ron Holloway & Friends..Live At Montpelier..sidewinder(new) Lee Morgan..Tom Cat.."title" The Horace Silver Quintet..lp..Song For My Father..'que pasa E.M.P..E.M.P Project.."blues brown bye"(new) Stanley Clarke & Friends..Live at The Greek.."good-bye pork pie hat" Kenny Garrett.."song for di fang" B.B. King.."when it all comes down Ill still be around" David "fathead" Newman.."fathead" Stanley Turrentine..lp Straight Ahead..'plum" Chet Baker..'let's get lost" Wayne Shorter..lp Night Dreamer.."black nile" Ben Eager.."Resolution"..'please pass the hot sauce"(new) Cedar Walton..Latin Tinge.."latino blue" Sonny Rollins..Global Warming.."gw" Bobby Darin..Live at The Copa..(August 1960) Jimmy Witherspoon.."when the lights go out"(written by willie dixon) Ray Brown..Walk On.."woogie boogie"(new) Jaki Byard..Out Front".."title" I want to go home and I ain't got sufficient clothes, doggone my bad-luck soul. Blind Lemon Jefferson bluz User: Hutch
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| Day: 10 Message: New photo of the trusty Angel Girls on the ODP. Zellie, Callie and... "Flex" ???. Had a first rehearsal for a little acoustic trio I'm putting together with a couple of pals of mine. You should have heard our three part harmony on Dirty Work. Came together rather nicely. Lots of fun! Hutch User: Funkmaster Flex
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| Day: 9 Message: Hey man, who deleted my last post? I got Vicky Cave right here and I ain't lettin' her go until my last post User: DACW
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| Day: 9 Message: lots User: DACW
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| Day: 9 Message: t: LOL! I'm sorry to ruin your viewing pleasure, but I'm full though from eating my recently uttered words regarding critics!!...What a fantastic review and interview - great find!!! These guys are just too funny - lot's of classic quips: Becker: "Regarding surround sound, I know musicians too well to want them behind my back..." then Q: Everything Must Go must be one of your fastest album productions ever. Fagen: We're not getting any youngerà Becker: àAnd we don't want our next album to be finished by our estates! Q: We're almost out of time. Do you have anything else to add? Fagen: Don't buy a hat through the mail! User: DACW
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| Day: 9 Message: Masters' (correction from previous) King: If you are saying that the last half of EMG is better than the first half, I would agree. A weaker first half will generally result in fewer positive critical reviews...however, that's irrelevent since most so-called critics don't really listen to the entire album even once..they might put the first few songs while typing an e-mail or something, then just sample the last half dozen songs before downing a few Iron City Lights and pounding out a semi-coherent review. There are a few enlightened ones - the recent twin cities or the Slate reviews are examples. I agree that the last song should be a doozie. There's some primacy-recency thing going on... Let's consider: Now THAT's a tasty album in itself... (1) The first song The Last Mall can be seen as imminent Apocalypse (in fact the whole album is UPBEAT AN-NIHILISM!), where as the last song, Everything Musct Go represents the collapse of the "New Economy" or everything as we knew it a few years ago in America pre-9/11...so why not put it first? (2) The INTROS to both Two Against Nature and Everything Must Go are extremely strong, distinctive, and CREATIVE. IMHO, if you put them up front, they color intensely the rest of the album to come...make a statement right off the bat! You'll notice that the brilliant drumming of Keith Carlock is a focal points for both intros! Walt Becker and Weiskopf provide full flavor on TvN and EMG with hot licks!!! I mean, just check out that intro montage to PLUSH. Is that not PERFECT?! The intro to TvN sez that (a) WE'RE BACK!!! and (b) This is not Your Father's Steely Dan!! The intro to EMG sez that this is the end of the world as we know it, and I don't feel fine...but let's be ONE ALIEN NATION UNDER A GROOVE in the meantime! User: t
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| Day: 9 Message: Clas, DACW - Imagine you two are canines. I have a raw steak I'm throwing between you two: Mix magazine: So you go into the studio with all of the finished charts written up? Fagen: Pretty much; sometimes, we do a little rewriting in the studio, but I write them out in advance, with the voicing and general layout. http://mixonline.com/ar/audio_steely_dan_everything/index.htm Bon appetite! User: payolo
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| Day: 9 Message: Yep, lol; "good" old Cleo; well, I like Texas: my mother and her family are from there: actually my parents met while attending UT! I credit the Longhorns for my entire life, lol; p User: world, king of
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| Day: 9 Message: Anyone else being harrassed by something called "Entertainment Gate", which takes your computing device on a mystical journey to a wonderland of spam every few minutes, taking over your computer so you can't escape unless you think of some way to exit without the mouse (which i'm not good at yet)(they leave you nothing to click on except their own sites)? They'll take me back again in the middle of this post, i know. DACW--- Re EMG backwards... i think this idea is based on the sense that people have that bad songs ought to go at the end of an album. I fixate on song sequence on albums, and the effect it has on how we hear songs, and certainly for me, any great album is designed so that there's a build-up in intensity and/or depth approaching the end. In a great album the best song is often the last one. "A Day in the Life" wasn't there because they were embarrassed by it. I'll certainly pay more attention to the last four, since many people here are talking them up, but it sounds like a great sequence. Wish they were leaping out at me. Still noise thus far. S Redfoot--- Interesting thing for me is that if I were to shuffle TvN/EMG together, I'd be alternating between songs I love that I've practically memorized every moment of (unintentionally of course), which click with me now, and new songs that are emotional/lyrical static, even though I'm sure you're right about their having the same style and feel. That's what's strange about the idea for me. A year from now, that shuffle will make sense to me, and now I'd 'hear' it in a very weird way. It'd be unsettling and jarring. I hate not getting music. With the neurological stuff, I wonder if I'll ever get new music again. So there's a certain pressure in listening to EMG. DACW--- JofS... now I *really* don't want to know how the magic trick is done, despite my wanting to know more, musically. I never want JoS ruined for me. Aussie, Hutch, Lady B--- I once heard "Don't Take Me Alive" in instrumental muzak form. I really wished for vocals. Actually, I rarely hear anything recorded as muzak. I hear SD and DF originals. But when I hear today's version of muzak, it seems to be new songs that somebody somewhere are cranking out, which seem like lamer, exaggerated parodies of late 70s, early 80s "mellow" "sensitive" singer/songwritery crap, which may have taken less time to write than to record. They seem to be made just for muzak. There'a a weird job. User: DACW
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| Day: 9 Message: Paolo: Really?! I was in Baton Rouge working on a msters' degree - I remember Cleo Fields well. He was a character who came straight out of Southern U (where Branford Marsalis went to school for others out there) with those "Morris" -looking glasses and was elected into into the state legislature...damn, I always liked him...it's a shame to hear he made a pact with the devil. I hope Foster and the State are able to pull out of the aftermath of Edwin Edwards...fortunately, it's difficult for Edwards to run again from the Slammer!...but then it's Louisiana! User: Jimbo
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| Day: 9 Message: Finally got the Kamakiriad DVD-A yesterday and I'm proud to say that I wasn't disappointed. Seeing the two videos: Tommorrows Girls and Snowbound again were worth it. The documentary behind the making of the album and one of the videos was a bonus. Nice to see that Rick Moranis I had to make a special order at FYE, in order to get it. He offered to order The Nightfly, but I'll wait awhile. Oh, and the music was great as well. User: Quiet nights of quiet banyan trees
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| Day: 9 Message: By the by, I got the Sinatra/Jobim album recently; anyone here know where I can secure a tab for "Baubles, Bangles and Beads?" (I've googled extensively, but no dice) thanks! p ~~~ User: Paolo
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| Day: 9 Message: sorry, that last message was *FOR* DACW! it was written by myself wh=ooops! User: DACW
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| Day: 9 Message: DACW: Oh gawd, I remember Roemer well: that poor s.o.b. Foster has been a pleasant surprise: makes stupid but manageabale mistakes, refuses the governor's salary, etc. The "funny" thing about Foster is that I campaigned AGAINST him because I was a supporter of Cleo Fields. I wanted to vote for an African-American governor for a change. The hilarious thing is that who was it who was caught on videotape accepting a bunch of unexplained cash a few years later? Cleo Fields. From who? Edwin Edwards. LOL Now you see why I'm thrilled to be living in California! (Though I do need a new job, lol. I'm on the case as we speak.) P User: DACW
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| Day: 9 Message: t: Yeah, we've got a thick rope and an oak tree set for 'ol JJ...now that "Tuna" is in Dallas, Jones is Lt. Gov. anyway...plus he's done as much damage to the state as Clinton or any other person from Arkansas could possibly do... Looks like Busta-move-ante has a lot 'o 'Splainin' to do: http://www.pocho.com/news/2001/cruzbustamante/cruz021501.html He's pretty funny - my favorite snafu is when he asked Janet Reno..."What's up, "doc"...LOL User: (not so) deep thoughts...
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| Day: 9 Message: DACW - how long does Jerry Jones get to be governor anyway? Imagine the confusion and irony as several of us from this gb show up at the Which One's Pink? show asking, "Which one's 'Which One's Pink?'?" "They're over there." "They? You mean him. We're looking for him." "No he's a band. I mean 'they're' a band..." "No, they're a man. I mean 'he's' a man..." User: DACW
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| Day: 9 Message: Paolo: You're not kidding! I remember when Buddy Roemer attempted to clean up Louisiana politics. His wife left him, he forgot that most of the legislature hadn't finished high school and in was Edwin Edwards' pocket, and then Edwards, who once said "I'm going to win this election unless I'm caught with a dead girl or live boy," kicked his butt in the next election. He set up Trent in '83 also...not that Trent was effective You should move to Texas! Our governor SUX, but at least the Feds won't catch him with briefcases full of Dead Presidents, a "gift" from the owner of the 49ers, lying around the mansion... note: the King...errrr Governor of Louisiana can serve an infinite amount of terms, but never more than 2 in succession. Thus Edwins was able to paroxysmally rape the state of Louisiana for 30 years... User: duncan
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| Day: 9 Message: i would like someone to call me during Haitian divorce. Friends of mine shall be getting the numbers soon User: W1P in San Diego
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| Day: 9 Message: We interrupt your regular broadcast to bring you news about the San Diego debut appearance of LA's most excellent Pink Floyd tribute band, Which One's Pink? At 11:00 p.m. on Saturday, August 23, 2003 at Canes Bar & Grill, 3105 Ocean Front Walk, San Diego, CA (858) 488-1780. Opening the show is LA's Led Zeppelin tribute Led Zepagain, featuring Swan at 9:30 p.m. That night Canes will start off the festivities with a debut screening of the new "Classic Album Series" DVD on The Dark Side of the Moon from Eagle Vision (some of you will recall their similar DVD for Aja). Here are some useful links for anyone interested in this August 23 show: Which One's Pink? http://www.whichonespink.com User: Mike A
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| Day: 8 Message: Deacon Blues is hands down the greatest SD song of all time. It's a signature piece and a masterpiece. Hearing it live is especially moving. I hope I can hear it live just one more time in concert. No Steely Dan show should leave this tune out. User: Drive west on Sunset to the polls
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| Day: 8 Message: You know, I'm from New Orleans, where we have (had) it really tough in the stinkeroo politician dept. After the David Duke / Edwin Edwards runoff of the late '90s, all of these California cheeseballs seem like likeable kittens. Of course, as I'm perpetually in search of better employment (or just employment), it may be that I'm too caught up in the microcosm of my life to research the macrocosm of California politics, and thus be more appropriately horrified. Paolo do Brasilia User: Joe Kennedy
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| Day: 8 Message: So was I, but that's a different story... User: Jimbo
| Month: 7
| Day: 8 Message: While the GOP's are succeeding in mindwiping the citizens of California with the always smiling AH-NOLD, the son of a Nazi sympathizer, Pittsburgh Pa will lose police officers, close up pools, lay off hundreds of city workers, cancel benefits and after school programs for kids, just because a group of Senate Republicans, which holds the majority of seats, User: DartWoman
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| Day: 8 Message: How much would one have to pay or pray to have Hey Nineteen or Janie Runaway be replaced with Deacon Blues? If that could happen for the Cleveland concert, I would be such a happy woman . . . The only change I would make to the setlist. Robin User: Glamour Profession
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| Day: 8 Message: high end of course User: Donald Trump
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| Day: 8 Message: t: I'm anticipating getting into the real estate repo market there... User: California, tumblin' into the sea...
| Month: 7
| Day: 8 Message: ...as if anybody cares... DACW - I generally agree with what you said about Davis' environmental record. I think Davis tried to do that "centrist" thing and now both sides are hanging him out to dry. Where's that Nader guy? He fucked up the country, the least he could do is come and fix California... User: t
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| Day: 8 Message: DACW - yeah, I'm blind, but not "Stevie Wonder" blind. lol... Davis was set up and a victim of circumstances to some extent, along with sharing some of the blame, but he's also not bright enough to have avoided the situation nor to get himself and the state out of it. I think it's called "politics". User: Yeah, I can do that...
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| Day: 8 Message: Running a state with no budget couldn't be any harder than running small record store with no budget... Thanks Aj ;-) Wanna be Lieutenant something? User: DACW...I could be wrong...........but I don't think so
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| Day: 8 Message: toenz: Yes, the section where I asked for donations in 1999 and early 2000 for Keep W as our Governor of Texas Campaign!!!...unfortunately algore ran the worst campaign in the history of the US...then grew a beard and joined the Taliban... You must like the way the water tastes in San Fran Bay...Gray Davis prostituted his campaign to polluters...hey, WAIT - there's THE Defense strategy in the Lacy Peterson case - she swallowed some water while "fishing!" If Davis, and Democrats controlled the Gov and House and State Senate - just who's fault is the mess that is Cali? The problem is that Harold Ford Jr. Democrats like myself have been sent to the back of the bus while the lunatic fringe vies for control...while W has "triangulated" liberal issue...but he's prone to caving like his Dad which could cost him the election if we Dems are smart enough to nominate Lieberman...but I don't think so... User: Aja
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| Day: 8 Message: Since the governor's office has basically become a crapshoot (with emphasis on the word "crap") and I have but one measely vote, I'm casting it for: User: PabloBrasilia
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| Day: 8 Message: Thanks C! User: dbeefy again
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| Day: 8 Message: and of course, very quickly before I hog the board, the Blue does have Meal Reviewer too, fair play he just cracks me up... An open question - it seems there are plenty of musicians on here (Clas: think I'm going to be investing in a CD when it's ready) But, are there any writers who are influenced by the Dan in their work. For my own part, I'm involved with low-budget moviemaking, and am writing a script which hopefully has some noir-ish influences and characters similar to those we're all familiar with, not to mention a halluncinatory scene in which my heroine has to sign the Green Book, with some iffy consequences. Anyone else? User: dbeefy
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| Day: 8 Message: ah Beers, thanks for clearing that one up. I see what you mean about no war talk, either pro or con, on the blue. Also sometimes if anyone posts anything less than total agreement with everything, certain folks seem to get het up. Still life is too short, so I just enjoy the music and post to the good folks on both... This time around I've not been able to get myself sent to Coventry, (about to head to Wales from London to be a best man, whatever that is) , but I am going to take in the Dan Collective before the year is out... shall keep an eye out for further dates. cheers User:
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| Day: 8 Message: "laid" even... User: just to tie it all in -
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| Day: 8 Message: To complete their evil scheme, the Republicans have hacked the SIS archives and extracted the posts between July 23 and Aug. 1, 2000, where their plan was first layed out in encrypted posts by a certain Dr. in Texas... User: tonez
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| Day: 8 Message: "If there was a disappointment to the show, it was the songs that were not performed." "Left unperformed were gems like "Deacon Blues," "Rikki Don't Lose that Number," "Reelin' in the Years" and "Do It Again." See? It's kinda like they can't win either way. If they had played all four in the same show, imagine all the shit they woul have gotten here and on the blue. (I would've given them slack for "Rikki..." ;-) Here's what I'm thinking: this is the first tour after the (relatively) big Grammy exposure, when a lot of people who didn't even realise they had been touring for eight years found out they were still around. These people are seeing them for probably the first time; these are also people who might not but a ticket for a show, but since they're playing that day at the state fair or resort or casino by the beach, whatever, they'll just take the kids over to the grandstand to see that Steely Dan guy. Meanwhile, we here seen them, maybe a few times, and have stewed here every day since we last saw them, and *especially* every day since EMG came out, and when we see them we're hoping to hear everything *except* the hits and familiar live choices that have become part of our lives. We also probably listen to the occasional concert recording or watch video in between seeing them. So for us, the last time we heard "Babylon Sisters" live is a matter of months, where as for D & W themselves it's a matter of *years* (cause I kind of doubt they watch videos of themselves...) So if I have a point to this ramble, it's that I think I see a pretzel logic to the setlist... -------------------- Somebody order a conspiracy theory? My one political thought of the summer: the Republican's have tried everything they could so far to gain control of pro-choice, economically independant, medical marijuana backin', gay rights lovin, California, and when Bill Simon couldn't buy the last election ala Florida, the Republican's went back to the tried and true - finding a "friendly" and familiar face with no qualifications other than name recognition though which to push their corporate and fundamentalist fascistic agenda. (how's *that* for a sentence...) It worked with Reagan. It'll probably work with Ahnold. God knows Americans *love* reruns... User: YGK
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| Day: 8 Message: Bill: thanx for the suggestions........very duly noted. Gave me the first laff of the day.........thanx St. Al: I read your last post while I was eating lunch. I'm going through what may seem to be a bit of drama - seems like a bunch of folks I know are. I've mentioned the witch, and I will need to consider more deeply all your kind suggestions when I've had more sleep. HOWEVAH! I've just booked Core NYC at Le Bar Bat for Thursday, September 18th - early show: 7PM...... I will be at PNC Aug 17 in the Orchestra Section with the Lovely Lady Bayside and another friend of mine.....we will be quite the 3some..... Also at Jones Beach, 4th row, I think...... Hope everyone is well........ ygk User: king richard
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| Day: 8 Message: Here's a review of the St. Paul Show last night - the earlier review was of EMG. http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/entertainment/music/6484765.htm User: PretzelBoy
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| Day: 8 Message: Not many of us in Boise do. User: king richard
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| Day: 8 Message: StAL, It's a wonder you have any scrotum left. OUCH User: StAl
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| Day: 8 Message: Bill, let me tell you a little story about Old St Alphonsus Hospital. Back in 1994 I was in Boise on a week long business trip. Thursday evening I'm laying in bed and I SWEAR TO GOD I thought that alien fellow was inside my body. You know, the one from the movie bearing the same name. Anyway, it just so happens the hotel I was staying at was right across the street from old St Alphonsus. I hobble over wondering WTF was wrong with me. I'm sweating profusely and in a pain almost as bad as having your shoulder out of socket. Anyway, this place is busy. It's the regional medical center for all of Bosie and Southern Idaho. You know, where all the drug overdoses, car accidents and burn victims go. They tell me to go sit in a corner and wait. So I'm sitting there convinced this little dude was going to jump out of me at any moment. At this time the pain is so bad I went back the nurse and told them if they didn't get me out of pain soon I was going to squeeze the nurses neck until her head popped clean off... Well, not really, but that's what I was thinking. Anyway, this was my very first Kidneystone incident. The first time is the worst because I had no idea what was wrong. I just knew I was going to give birth, or die... So, with over a half dozen kidneystone incidents, 4 shoulder dislocations, 2 vasectomy's (1st one didn't work, soon to be 3) and a vasectomy reversal this boy is no stranger to pain. In fact, I've developing a fondness for it. Now, where did I put that whip... I wanted to let people know that I've been having a problem with my email lately. Seems as though one of the hosts on this server has been flagged as a spammer and blacklisted. However, since they blacklist the IP address of this shared server it affects all the hosts on it. Therefore when I reply to some emails it gets rejected by your ISP. If anyone has emailed me and is wondering why I haven't replied, this might be the cause. Hopefully we'll get it worked out soon. StAl User: Beerberian
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| Day: 8 Message: LP; Here in the Western world ... We got Sun @ 35degC but we got no Dan ... I'd swap User: lp
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| Day: 8 Message: wormy - i work 2 blocks up from the criterion and i am considering going to see her, thanks for the reminder is the whole eastern seaboard in this fog and rain mess - it's starting to get to me since it's been a week now - is anyone having sun this weekend? User: DACW - Don't Mention the War
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| Day: 8 Message: Nice review: User: Beerberian
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| Day: 8 Message: Dbeefy; No prob with St Al & Jim (hoops) but I think those on the blue take life Dan & and themselves a little too seriously sometimes ... Ask NYB and or Clas ?? Bill you still banned ? They Do not like political debate espec War Talk on the blue ... Tonight The Dan Collective - Live & Lovely The Jailhouse Much Park Street Coventry - UK's only True Dan experience at this time. Come take communal solace with fellow abandoned Dan fans ... User: NYB
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| Day: 8 Message: Pat, Would you be having your shoulder fixed here? It's all about calling in sick brother... User: wormy
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| Day: 8 Message: anything new in the setlist? still buzzing, I caught one of my favs Suzanne Vega with her bassist Mike V on a solo acoustic set last night LP - she's playing the Criterion in Bar Harbor Aug 23 I have a question I haven't seen voiced here yet I recall this in 2k - think it was Janie Runaway - Ted Baker's piano takes over for just a brief delicious moment J-Dubz - thanks for the recommendations on the computer software studio WOuld love to hear others opinions on the M-Box/protools recording combo off to "the home on the Gulf Coast" this weekend wormy User: dbeefy
| Month: 7
| Day: 8 Message: Hey C, what's the deal with Hoops - I post to both, and whilst there is a definite difference between what goes on on the yellow and the blue, it's all basically Danheads of every stripe... Do I detect some history here? User: Gina
| Month: 7
| Day: 8 Message: Yes, things get weird sometimes. Ange, looks like you might be getting the Terminator for a governor, when they announced it on tv here in the european part of the world they called him the Governator. Hm. Must say i think it's highly refreshing! EMG and SD mind controlling stuff?? Off while adapting life to the heatwave reigning over our continent, User: C
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| Day: 8 Message: This is a rare shot when Hoopsie's having his morning drill: http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/steely User: C @ W
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| Day: 8 Message: On the other hand, dear Paolo, I don't use to be so picky when it comes to Steely Dan chords. Take the 4 first bars in the Peg-refrain for example, as long as I go down (with left hand) C B A and E, I use to push all white keys with my right hand. It works for me. --- So, where's Emmanuell? User: Red Rubber
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| Day: 7 Message: The Show: Everything Must Go (Intermission) Reelin in the Years User: dr Fill
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| Day: 7 Message: Okay, it's time to listen to the daily words of wisdom from our Texas so called doc, dr Fill the Shaman: http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill Or click the URL above. User: C
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| Day: 7 Message: mu - okay, so the word "dissonance" doesn't mean exactly the same in English as in Swedish then (Swe; dissonans = discord). You can't say a mu-chord is a dissonant one, if you are talking Swedish. --- Paolo - if you say C2, I'd play a Csus2. C9 indicates that the chord has the Bb-note. The voicing has nothing to do with it; C9 left hand / right hand: C G C / Bb D G or C G C / E G Bb D or whatever... 2) I guess it's because the if you add a 7 to a C-chord, you count from the G, so, from G to B there's a major third, from G to Bb there's a minor third. 3) It does? I didn't know that. I thought a 13-chord contains the 7 and the 6 (6 + 7 = 13) Howard will be in from lunch soon, I guess he'll put some things straight. --- Beerb - thanx. User: DACW
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| Day: 7 Message: Man, there's a lot of weird shit going on in EMG...Howard, I hope your analysis is coming soon... User: DACW
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| Day: 7 Message: Man, there's a lot of weird shit going on in EMG...Howard, i hope you analysis is coming soon... User: Paolo do Brasilia
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| Day: 7 Message: I have some chord theory questions for the more knowledgeable amongst you (using C as an example): unfortunately, to my target audience (as I said: "the more knowledgeable amongst you") these will seem like dumb questions, but that's just my bad luck: 1) Why is a C9 called a C9 rather than a C2, the second note and the "ninth" obviously being the same? (Ditto with every note above 7?) Is it just to indicate a higher octave (which would seem wrong, as a chord name does not indicate a particular voicing)? 2) Since so-called "dominant" 7th chords have a flat7 or -7 (and ditto with all chords that incorporate a "seventh") why isn't a Cmaj7 (1, 3, 5, 7) simply called a Cadd7? 3) Why does the 13th incorporate the 11? I've been a Dan fan for more than a decade now (pre-post-retirement albums), am just learning chord theory and it's a pleasure to be in the company of you folks. Thanks, User: John
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| Day: 7 Message: Hi all, I'm trying to keep track of previews/reviews/critiques from on the road, not just from traditional media, but also those posted online, at If anyone sees an article of this sort in the local media and could bring it to my attention, I would be most appreciative. All best, User: Eddie
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| Day: 7 Message: Gee! Mrs. Cleaver, I can rub your shewlders for ya, if ya like. And I got a pretty good stroke, too! User: June
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| Day: 7 Message: Ward darling - I tried to contact you but got that little intern again, is there soemthing I should know? Off to my tennis lesson with Brad and then a massage from Sven... See you at the Club for g&t's lovey - the tide is high and the views out to the fog banks are haunting. June User: angel
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| Day: 7 Message: Hutch: That would be flash, flash, The Flash. The 3rd one being a character in a Comic Book. :-) User:
| Month: 7
| Day: 7 Message: Paris, TX and Paris, France both hit 104¦F yesterday...but we take showers! User: Hutch
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| Day: 7 Message: Aussie - Yeah, the SD muzak thing always had me wondering. Seems like lately when you hear SD muzak the arrangements and chord voicings are spot on. I heard a version of Babylon Sisters the other day that was pretty interesting actually. They used a different instrument for the vocal on each verse. First verse was sax and the second verse was guitar. Don't get me wrong ... the cheese factor was still there. I've come to believe that the muzak musicians themselves and the arrangers are certainly big Dan fans or we wouldn't be hearing so much of it, especially the somewhat obscure stuff. I guess some (even on this board) would say these cats are stacking cutouts at the Strand in a big way but I say at least they've got a paying gig! And a chance to play some real good music. Now here's a little piece of absolutely meaningless (or is it?) Steely Dan trivia: hmmmm... I smell some kind of Master Plan to control our minds! Hutch User: DACW
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| Day: 7 Message: C: Quoting Howard's detailed M¦torial: "...Dissonance On a piano or keyboard, there is no problem in playing chords that contain notes that are close together - it is no more difficult to play a straight major chord than a mu major chord. On the guitar however, it can be more difficult to achieve this dissonance. Because there are only six strings to use, and you use just one hand to select the notes, the choices are more limited and mu major chord shapes may involve more of a stretch than simpler chords. Mu major chords that use one or more open strings are the easiest ones to play on the guitar, for example Gámu: 3x020x, Dámu: xx0252 and Aámu: x0242x (see table of mu major guitar shapes below). Some of the more common piano voicings of the mu major chord are more challenging to play on the guitar. For example, the G mu major chord described above (made of the triad A B D with a G in the bass) is no problem on the piano, but on the guitar is quite a challenge (chord shape: 3x743x). For guitarists, the answer is to try and find ways of using open strings in mu major chords wherever possible. Where this cannot be done, try alternative fingerings and positions for the chord. If you still run into problems with certain chords you will probably need to leave out the bass note and just play the top notes of the chord... " Aja Encores: DTMA User: StAl
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| Day: 7 Message: Hey 19: Now there's a visual I could have done without... Bumperstickers anyone? http://www.thetexasidiot.com Malcolm: I'm thinking your close uncle Alphonzo in Seattle will be hostpitalized and you'll have to take that day off to care for him. Give her my number... Diane: Can only prune the posts by date of last activity. All posts without any activity after 20 days have been deleted. StAl User: SD
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| Day: 7 Message: Dream Set List Deacon Blues I can never get sick of hearing Deacon Blues. I remember hearing it at Jones at Y2K and it gave me chills. That song is pure perfection in my book, probably the best song ever created and recorded by any group. User: hey 19
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| Day: 7 Message: Jimbo, your Justin Timberlake boner is showing. User: Aussie
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| Day: 7 Message: Malcolm: Geez bud. Perhaps you can take the day off? We plan an early escape on Jones Beach day....if you can swing it, you can ride in the Audi TT. Aus User: Jimbo
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| Day: 7 Message: Larry Flynt would get my vote if I lived in California,but thank God I don't. I wouldn't want a Guv who made a shitty movie called Collateral Damage. A member of the GOP as president of the RIAA. WE ARE SO SCREWED. MORE BRITNEY, LIL'KIM AND BOY BANDS WITH NO SOUL. ICK! Maybe Don and Walt can run for Guvs in New York. And recall the current Guv there just for the hell of it. User: Hank Silvers (@ the corner of brutal honesty and self-reproach)
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| Day: 7 Message: User: Randy
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| Day: 7 Message: 1. "Everything You Did" (via Becker) "Good times are comin' / but they're sure comin' slow..." Randy User: Beerberian
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| Day: 7 Message: Clas; a few pics on http://steelydan.com/emgtourpics.html User: Oh yes...
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| Day: 7 Message: StAl - one song I could do without is "Josie". Or maybe not, Carlock is doing a drumsolo on that one? Are there any pics out from the shows? --- And Brett, Hutch, Roy, FlaDave, YGK, Howard, Stevee, did I forget anyone? Well, put your stuff together and send it to me: http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill User: dr Fill
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| Day: 6 Message: Okay, it's a new day, and here are some wise words from our own dr Fill: http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill Or click the URL above. User: C @ W
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| Day: 6 Message: dr Mu - "...I always thought of the mu chord as a jazz dissonant chord..." A DISSONANT chord? Well, I don't think so, a dissonance goes out of bounds, like the odd A-chord in the "Reelin' in the Years" from the Alive in America album. An ordinairy mu-chords keeps the tunes inside the ear-friendly area, like this C-mu-chord; C D E G The A-chord I mentioned above is; A D# E - THAT's a dissonance. --- Thanx for email FlaDave - I am looking forward to receive the package! --- I'll soon get back with dr Fill's Daily Words of Wisdom User: Slinky_Redfoot
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| Day: 6 Message: I got an idea guys:Try creating an MP3 playlist with the combination of the 2VN and EMG and then shuffle the songs. Its really cool. As if all the songs came from one album and every song compliments each other. A really great experience for me and that's my take. User: Pablo Brazil
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| Day: 6 Message: Thanks, Howard! Here are the chord changes for my "Story of Life," in case anyone is ever interested, nyuk. Story of Life A, d9, dflatm7 bm7, e, a, aflat, g, f#m7 (d9, b9, d9, a, e9) am7, d9, am7, f9, e9 a, g, d9, f (a, d9, e9, a, e9) A, d9, dflatm7 bm7, e, a, aflat, g, f#m7 http://pablobrazil.com/storyofl.mp3 I think it's a semi-decent composition, but I can always use feedback from fellow members of the "just-because-it-has-a-greater-chord-vocabulary-doesn't-necessarily-mean-it's-'jazz rock'-,-just-good-music" school, lol. Later Dan g8rs; as soon as I have a Mu composition recorded I'll post here. Yours, p User: DACW
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| Day: 6 Message: There's nothing like the theatre the absurd called LIFE to snatch me from stumbling down, down, down the dark ladder. It's OFFICIAL! Larry Flynt vs. The Terminator for Governor of Cali!!...can't wait to hear the debate with Arianna Huffington also - I'll need captions...off to listen to the npr interview...defibrillator backpacks...too much... User: DACW
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| Day: 6 Message: Don't look to Education either: http://www2.bostonherald.com/news/local_regional/lawr08062003.htm User: DACW
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| Day: 6 Message: lp: Indeed, the FEDS (and of course Soylent Green) are made of People, with all the good and bad that entails packaged into a Bureaucracy with mostly the BAD that entails. Look at the Catholic Church. Most priests are good people. however, many have been protected pedophiles and homosexual statuatory rapists. The church hierarchy (i.e., bishops and cardinals) covered up and moved the offenders around so they ended up damaging more children and young teens. The Pope (i.e., doddering head Cardinal) decided to nothing pro or retro-actively until finally accepting the resignation of Cardinal Law, although John Paul II never asked...Then the Church has the Charles de Gaulle to pile on the homosexuality issue brewing... Bottom line: Don't expect bureaucracies like the Feds or Church to solve your problems. It starts with We the People. The best we can do is change our attitude and get down to the personal level again - then perhaps those bureaucracies will change as well....Don't expect Dan RatherNOT to really be sympathetic or solve our social ills having other people's voices fill our minds... Hell, this is my country and we're lucky of we can or rather we refuse to defend our borders and can't find Saddam or Al Zawahiri (Osama was quick fried in Tora Bora)... LP, you've made a great start losing the "tube"...let's replicate that old SCTV Intro montage!! "Don't ask what your Country can do for you. Rather ask what you can do for your country" - JFK I'd like to see someone try that today... That's why I predict Larry Flynt will win the Cali Gov. with 11.69% of the vote...and join me for cornflakes and Camels... User: lp, dog catcher extraordinaire
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| Day: 6 Message: as quoted below: "If the will of the people, initally at local and state levels to do so without infringing on rights is to change, then that's OK...it's always best to encourage civility OUTSIDE law enforcement...although civic leaders can set some example of agenda and can demonstrate their willingness to change a city for the better..." the uncivility at the local level demonstrates clearly to me how it all falls apart so easily at the federal level civility likely starts in a smaller arena, like at home but i'm getting drained, though, i guess now BUT I'M STILL GOING TO DANCING MY ASS RIGHT OFF AT THE MASSACHUSETTS AND NEW HAMPSHIRE SHOWS ANYWAY - User: YGK
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| Day: 6 Message: Hey Lady B, Aus, others....... Any Jones Beach folks - due to the Fact that I have a severe Witch Boss, who has yet to have a heart, my departure from Mid-Town may be delayed due to having to work until end of day on the 22nd. Let me know! ygk User: dianeDianeDIANE
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| Day: 6 Message: St. Al, can you tell us how to delete our outdated messages at the Steely Dan Ticket Exchange? Duncan, my Gorge report was posted here, many many many posts ago. Scroll down, baby. love and kisses diane User: StAl
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| Day: 6 Message: MU: I admit it, it was a cheap shot. But I HAD to take it... Lady B: I heard they kicked you out of the local Kroger for dancing naked in the produce aisle. Now I know why... My dream setlist in no particular order... - Kings User: PretzelBoy
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| Day: 6 Message: Agree with StAl fully - particularly with My Old School, Babylon, and Hey 19. If you've been living in a cave(of altamira) and haven't seen SD on any of their five U.S. tours in the past 11 years and go bonkers when they play these then, well, you're better suited for a Justin/Christina show coming to a town near you. What to see more of? I'd like a sprinkling of: Your Gold Teeth And at least one DF solo. Though I.G.Y and Nightfly are easy targets and I liked hearing New Frontier back in '96, I'd like a kick ass, pepped up, funky Walk Between the Raindrops toward the end of the show. That's my take. User: hypothetical friend
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| Day: 6 Message: dream setlist would include the follow 25 songs. hey, i want my hundred bucks worth! caves User: DACW
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| Day: 6 Message: StAl: I never said it was acceptable. My point is that it is *expected.* I as one person, at least in my position, cannot change the current sociological patterns - they vary with space(region) and time...at a Duke Ellington concert in the 40s, 50s, or 60s, this type of behavior was rare, and dealt with swiftly (i.e., the bouncer quickly removing the Patron of Crass Disruption or PCD). This is one of the many reasons I've pretty much given up on the Baby Boomer Generation in general...but I always respect each individual as much as possible... I think a better question is why has this became expected, tolerated...concerts of this type should be fun, not stodgy ...when freedom has been twisted to mean "doing what the f*ck I want no matter the repercussions to others" while within a bizarre construct of many just waiting to be offended politically...reclamation of common sense and moral center seem far away...however, much of that is a product of televisioin, immediacy of pop product, and tyranny of the PC pseudo-intellectual eliteists, many of whom unfortunately reside in Education... Since it is difficult for government nor do I believe is it their immediate rol to effectively alter social mores or its own citizens...and it is technically unconsitutional for the Feds to do so unless rights are violated, this means it's up to We the People to change...If the will of the people, initally at local and state levels to do so without infringing on rights is to change, then that's OK...it's always best to encourage civility OUTSIDE law enforcement...although civic leaders can set some example of agenda and can demonstrate their willingness to change a city for the better...I can't speak for what's happened under Bloomberg, except for an increase in Cheech and Chong movies and a large deficit, but crime plummented and civility made a remarkable comeback under Rudy G...this occured despite a highly publisized accident...probably because New Yorkers knew that the number of accidental killings by police officers was significantly higher on average per annum under Dinkins or Koch...but the change in attitude could not have occurred if the people did not get involved willingly... Having said that, I don't think that in a relatively well-behaved sports or concert crowd (and some still are) that we should discourage people from getting a little excited...better than sitting with their hands under their asses! User: duncan
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| Day: 6 Message: Hey IÆm in Scotlandà On holiday.. User: king richard
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| Day: 6 Message: Here's a 21-song setlist I could live with (in no particular order): Reelin in the Years User: Lady Bayside
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| Day: 6 Message: Hiya! I have an addendum of sorts to Aussie's post...I was in Saks (on Fifth Ave) this weekend and when I walked in through the diamond/precious stones/expensive watches area, it took me a moment to realize why I was really enjoying the atmosphere (aside from the shiny stuff, of course)..they were playing Jack of Speed. And not the Muzak version, but actual Dan. This is certainly a step up from my usual forays to the grocery store, where either solo Donald or Steely Dan seem to comprise the bulk of the play. (I think I hear at least one song EVERY time I go to my neighborhood market, and I don't think I hang around excessively either.) Will see some of you at PNC next weekend, and I hope many of you at Jones Beach. I am working on the darn website for the Bayside Baccanal (thanks, YGK, for that fabulous name) but rest assured, a good time will be had by all, even if the website isn't up and running yet. Preparations are under way. Lady B User: MmmNuggets
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| Day: 6 Message: High im kinda new here (not to the dan) I am interested in discussing this no dancing no fun arguement...i am attending PNC and Tweeter and Atlantic city shows and I WILL BE DANCING my ass off for all these shows...life is short I love the boys quite a bit Soooo i think its almost an involuntary thing (the dancing) So sorry or whatever in advance.....why dont we all dance and demand they play Pearl of the Quarter segue into Dr.Wu into western world back into Pearl then into gold teeth I and II User: Aja
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| Day: 6 Message: I agree completely, St. Al, with your list of The Songs I'd Miss The Least. Taking heart if "I Got The News" makes it in, 'cause the second set was looking more than a little weak as presented in Paso Robles. The one hit I never get tired of is "Deacon Blues". Can't get musically specific-I just like the mood it sets. Anyway, I definitely smell Big Corporate Label influence in the setlist. Makes me wonder what Becker and Fagen would play if it were entirely up to them? User: miss you
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| Day: 6 Message: bluz where are you? laurie User: Audi TT
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| Day: 6 Message: The link to this pic on the new tour photos page was broken. http://www.steelydan.com/Images/emg/pics/girlswork.jpeg User: DACW
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| Day: 6 Message: Howard: looking forward to your discussion. Think I hear them on Greenbook, Things I Miss the Most...I always thought of the mu chord as a jazz dissonant chord - some spice among ear candy in SD 1. Godwhacker: The return of the synth blues harp with more of a whistling tune followed by Walter's threatening blues, HIGHLY INTEGRATIVE, brilliant and underappreciated solo guitar with a bit of a return to the synth harp...nice intergation of guitars, background singers in the outtro Slang of Ages - nice bite to Weiskopf's short solo before the bridge in this 50s sounding piece - another underrated sequence GreenBook - Ted Baker's piano is the closest thing to Omartian yet...great trading 4s or whatever between Walt and Donald's midi thingy - a tight conversation in a very orginal song structure Lunch with Gina - like meat on the bone...I dig the hyper midi runs...like the '93 tour on vitamins...the *outtro* is some of most sophisticated round-like stuff they've ever done!!!! Check out how changes in the horn chart works with everything else! EMG - what can I say? Weiskopf's intro and solo are CLASSIC!!! He's incredible! User: StAl
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| Day: 6 Message: MU: There is a difference between sitting down and behaving vs. standing the entire time while the rest of the crowd is sitting. Again, collective governing... I certainly don't need to be reminded these are rock concerts as I've been to my fair share and I don't begrudge the fan who is more excitable than I am. However, your analogy using sporting events as a comparison fully outlines the reasons why I gave up on organized sports so many years ago. Obnoxious behavior is what it is and is never something I find palatable under any circumstances. I've noticed a theme in some of your arguments. Deviant behavior is acceptable if it's an established pattern. Why try to change things? Football, Rock Concerts, WAR... etc... HA! (sorry -- couldn't resist) Songs I'd (NOT) miss the most... - Peg Yep, it's time to dump these and reach a little deeper into that prodigious catalog. Any opinions? StAl User: Aussie
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| Day: 6 Message: Back from Vacay.... Le Roi: I know that the Dan is used extensively as muzak in many public places. The one query I have is, does it still count as "muzak" if the track is played "au naturalle" (as it appears on the compact disque) and in its entirety? In other words, the track I heard, "Blues Beach", was not dumbed down with Kenny G type timbre.... Inquiring minds want to know. WormTom: Ah yes, the Doublemint twins in the splendor of Grand Central Station...nice mammaries, ah, oops, memories! Thanks Hutch for the heads up on the new touring pics. Ms. Parks has a great eye does she not? Happy humpday everybody. Aus User: Hutch
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| Day: 6 Message: Pictures from the tour on the ODP. User: C
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| Day: 6 Message: Howard - wouldn't you say that the mu-chord was something that singer/songwriters developed in the early 70's, westcoast kind of piano style? I am thinking of Joni, Jackson etc etc... the Mu-chord is not significant for Steely Dan? It's a typicall piano-chord. It colours those ordinairy D, C, G etc-chords. User: Slow day...
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| Day: 6 Message: ... Jack of Speed! Darn. But; "...the Rhodes, particularly the rhythm are right out of the Royal Scam playbook..." I wish I could say I agree with you, but I can't hear it. Do you mean the Royal Scam album or the song? /C User: C
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| Day: 6 Message: Mu - you're right about West of Holywood. But tell me, it's a very hot day over here, what does JoS stand for? --- Howard, great, good luck with tuning the piano! When you're finnished with your piano, maybe you could come over and tune mine? User: Funkmaster Flex
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| Day: 6 Message: Yo Bob, You don't think you're the only one dating Vicky Cave do you? User: DACW
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| Day: 6 Message: Big whatever not Clas, right: WoH reminds me a lot more of The Nightfly than SD. strikes me - the JoS stuff strikes the SUBconscious, which would dampen any apparant awareness. let me explain: (1) the Rhodes, particularly the rhythm are right out of the Royal Scam playbook (2) This particular horn chart, as opposed to say Gaslighting Abbie, is predictable - right out of the Tom Scott playbook, 'cept...you guessed it (3) The lyrical drug references are particularly weak... blue line = white line line...been there, done that...said better in 11ToW and Steely Dan I the bridge tacked on by Fagen after the 1996 tour is the most interesting part King of the World: Hang in there. Try playing EMG in backwards order. The title track, Lunch with Gina and Pixeleen are real Grabbers. Why Pixeleen or Lunch with Gina were not chosen as singles by AOL Time Warner Whatever is beyond me... Yes, the vocals throught the album and Hugh Cracken's guitar - left channel of GodWhacker are incredible! User: Howard
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| Day: 6 Message: Glad my mu-major stuff caught your interest. I need to do an update at some point to refer to the new album. SD are still (of course) using the mu, though they have tried out a few new contexts for it which is interesting. Let me know of any comments/feedback on those pages. Howard P.S Piano tuning has commenced! Trying to bring the notes up a semitone first. If the piano doesn't complain, I'll take it up one more to bring it to concert pitch. Then I'll need to do the fine tuning to get the intonation right. User: Listening @ Tumbleweed Connection....
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| Day: 6 Message: We must see EJ und BT deserving of a........ User: C @ Work
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| Day: 5 Message: King of the World - when Fagen goes "...the talk, the sex, uhh..." That alone is worth the price of the album. And the right/left guitars in "Godwhacker". I couldn't have done it better myself. User: The Presidential Joke That's Not Really a Joke...
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| Day: 5 Message: Our name says it all!!! User: king of the world
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| Day: 5 Message: "Exhuming McCarthy" by REM just ended. I was surprised to find that it wasn't a big title and hit, since it strikes me as one of the most hit-like songs of theirs. (I never checked the title before.) But you don't want to hear me going on about that. "A Forest" by the Cure still an obsession. New Kneel Jung out now..... Scariest of all is fact that EMG after four or five listenings still constitutes meaningless noise to me so far. I know that 2vN took hell of lot longer but fear for me now is that the recent brain damage may have impaired my ability permanently to take in and 'process' new, complex music. But, if I somehow manage the same sort of thing with EMG that I did with 2vN, there's hope. That will give me a hell of a boost. The gap of several months between first listening, and the point when it all clicks, will be murder, though, one way or another. User: dr Fill
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| Day: 5 Message: You'll find dr Fill's daily words of wisdom here: http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill Or click the URL above. User: Hunker down to read the posts...
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| Day: 5 Message: So, the Steely Dan is on the road again? That must be a great thing. Diane - welcome to the guestbook. dr Mu - were you talking to me there, a week back? If you did, I don't understand shit. Would you care to explain? /C User: the big-ass boss of you aka le roi
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| Day: 5 Message: the above name was an impulse purchase, though ass-radius is now unfortunately more than it oughta be. tmg---- 'singing aja'... i like. DACW---- understanding another person's experience of something, anything, is one of the hardest things in life. My response to Jack O'Speed has nothing to do with familiarity, at least no more or less than with any other song on TvN. It just doesn't strike me as being the slightest bit more SD-like in a cliche sense, than any of the others. And the particular spots where I go non-verbally "O God" don't correspond to any previous SD moments. I can easily tell that long-unfashionable jazz/pop devices are being used, but in a fresh and original way. As for the idea that you have to just give up on a junkie to protect yourself and move on, no matter how great that human being may have been, because the drug changes him, that's a jarring idea, that I haven't heard expressed before, and certainly not this well, and not in a song lyric. All of 2vN at first had an overwhelming sense of sounding almost TOO much like SD. It doesn't make much sense, but it sounded to me more like SDthan any of the previous albums. It was like they distilled it all down to the basic essence, like a drug is refined from a natural herb or something. For what it's worth though, the devices in JofS are very familiar, but astound anyway, unexpectedly, in a way that gives hope. It's still possible to work magic with those devices we gave up on decades ago. And they're not SD devices but pop/jazz devices, at least to this technically ignorant ear. The closest they came to any of this was Katy Lied, and still... Maybe I shouldn't be fixating so much on one person's opinion. That wasn't meant disrespectfully. I just have the feeling JofS is a highly-regarded song, so I ought to move on. But, DACW... "'cept not as good"--- R Newman reference? Cool! W of hollywood strikes me as everything you say JofS is. "Man on Moon" drew me in to REM in the first place, most specifically the Andy Kaufman references. gimt-------- that's some snappy wordplay you got goin' there. thanks. Aussie----- SD is used as Muzak in stores now more than anyone else. It doesn't have to be hits. I heard "Any World" in a Walgreens'. (sorry) angel---- Egad! You caused me a weird deja vu moment. I once had a complicated dream that involved my being in passageways underneath G C Station, when I know nothing about GCS except the fact that it exists. You remark about 'whispering'.... I must've heard something about this, which three or four years ago, triggered that dream. that idea was involved, somehow. John------- Re irony... will it float? Re the subtle variations... I'm workin' on it. Rajah--- good fer yew, standing up for the SD pulchritude. User: trailer trash
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| Day: 5 Message: humm Vickie plays sax, Bob plays sax Bob with Vickie on his lap among friends Bob with Vickie and a Meal (or two) Bob and VIckie in airport (the griswalds?) bob spotted with betty boop, vickie jealous User: Doc Kelly
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| Day: 5 Message: Howdy, All! Just drove the 9 hours home from Denver. A most excellent show!! I don't have a lot of time to write up a long post but I will mention I enjoyed hearing Black Cow but not at the expense of The Last Mall or Blues Beach... and I can say the same thing about Babylon Sisters... but I would have liked to hear Do It Again, as well... Oh, well, I guess if that is all I can complain about then it was a fantastic experience. I'm looking forward to the Chicago show!! Doc User: Pablo Brazil
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| Day: 5 Message: Re: Joni Mitchell Discussion List, MuMajor Chord Explication Howard, I hope you still exist; your email at JMDL bounced back. I'mn hoping you may pass this way from time to time. I'm bringing your MU-MAJOR stuff to work tomorrow for a thorough study. p User: oleander
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| Day: 5 Message: WHAT?? Mike ejected? What utter BULLSHIT. I have several of the cool "all excess" "passes" from '00, and if these are anything like, there is NO WAY anyone with a cortex could think they are counterfeit anything. They are just mementos. And Mike was WAY looking forward to seeing the Dan at the Gorge. Mike, if you can get to Atlanta or Manassas, you are MY GUEST for the evening. Re: NPR--the whole interview is up on npr.org--a GREAT spread on the duo, and yes, the exemplar fan site is St. Al's Banyan Trees! Yowie! Also, tunes, links, resources, and inimitable Danitude. "Recreational defibrillation..." I am SLAIN. User: DACW
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| Day: 5 Message: Bernhardt User: DACW
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| Day: 5 Message: Rajah: I Got the News is in? I saw Black Cow was back...Like you, I subscribe to different colorings and even arrangments for classic Dan songs. This breathers life into the band...music, especially this music has som many possibilities and equations to explore. There are numerous obvious differences on AiA such as the new sax arrangment of Reelin' and the sassed up Sign in Stranger with a new Bridge and quirky alien Big Band interlude to the nice interplay between Erskine and Bernhadt on Book of Liars... Certainly I would never impede on the 1st ammendment rights of other - but we all know what we're getting into. It's a tradeoff of crystalline acoustics for some energy...in a sense this is confusing for many "rock critics" as this concert really falls within the broad chasm between a matchbox20 concert and Dave Brubeck's touring band...the developing set list is encouraging - heavy on Aja...just hoping a little more Katy and the last half of EMG sneak in... User: Boston Rag - Boston Danfest Info
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| Day: 5 Message: RECENT EVENT NEWS: Some way cool Walter Becker - Slang Me! t-shirts are being made up as we speak. A souvenir of the 2003 Boston Danfest that every show biz kid on the block will want! Now if we can just get Walter to wear one at the show!!! Saturday afternoon, July 16 2:00pm û 6:00pm DevonÆs Place Located about 1 mile from the Tweeter Center (formerly Great Woods), chef Mike DiMascio will wine and dine us for 4 hours before the Steely Dan show. Mike is opening his restaurant off-hours for the Danfest-only crowd. Meet your friends at DevonÆs and relax and have drinks and dinner before the show. DJ Jack Tolman will be providing the Steely Dan music & some rarities. Saturday evening, August 16 6:00pm û 8:00pm/11:00pm-??? Tailgate party before and after show cocktails For the 2000 Danfest, most of the Dan fans booked rooms at the Red Roof Inn. HereÆs the address and phone numbers: Red Roof Inn More details about the event soon! User: Slinky_Redfoot
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| Day: 5 Message: DACW- What you say about the nature of the performance given the venue and acoustics makes nothing but sense. But this is our only access to Steely Dan live so expectations are high and I think it's perfectly valid to critique the performance in any constructive way. It ain't Avery Fisher Hall most of get to see them at, it's FRIGGIN Costa Mesa. Sorry for the unvarnished bitterness. Sometimes we hear stark criticism that's not critical, somebody just tells us how something FELT, like, "I can't get into this different 'I Got The News'- I can't describe it" is what someone wrote here coupla nights ago. The singers come in after the beat on the chorus instead of on it. Brilliant alternate version, dancible-even, gave it an 8. Me, I like the different but allotta of SD concert attendees don't. All the comments are valid, all carry a different weight. I do like the way you get pissed off, though, crack whore: spirited surliness. User: Rajah of Erase
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| Day: 5 Message: ouchie User: cave robber
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| Day: 5 Message: I thought Bob Sheppard had one fatal flaw.... User: Rajah of Erase
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| Day: 5 Message: Bob Sheppard - I certainly hope your intentions are honorable young man, we want only the best for our Steely Dan Girls. (lucky bastard, another reason to hate horn players) User: snakehips
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| Day: 5 Message: some of my other fav posts are "ixnay on the petitionay" and "rut roh"...lol User: DACW
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| Day: 5 Message: Look, these concerts are ROCK concerts. They are at rock concert venues, with rock concert venue acoustics (or as good as Roger is able to tweak), with rock concert ticket prices and anticipated yields and profit, and rock concert behavior. That is I expect similar average and distribution of behavior at a football game or any kind of outdoor event...folks up and dancing...folks off to get a beer or a piss...to expect anything less is frankly unrealistic and unreasonable - we know what we're in for...unless it's invitation only....the set lists reveal a compromise in AOR tracks vs. hits...plus ones they like to play. It's about the Event as well as the music... ...come to think of it though...but have faith - another year of "stellar" promotion by AOL Time Warner (TIMTM new single on AAA???? are the f*ing nuts?!) and we'll be right there! User: lp
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| Day: 5 Message: i hope none of you people are anywhere in my vicinity of seats for the massachusetts or new hampshire show... lol/smirk to quote the now dead leader of the clash: where's the party, officer?... User: Aja
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| Day: 5 Message: Countermoon-by showing up, we ARE letting D&W (and everyone else) know how much we like them. By acting like a waaaaaay overly enthusiastic, middle-aged, slobbering-over-the-girls dweeb, you just become another pathetic Steely Dan character. As far as dancing, I move to the aisles when this booty needs to shake. It's when I get told by security to return to my seat that I get pissed off!!!!!!!!! User: bob sheppard
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| Day: 5 Message: I'm dating Victoria Lectra Cave... User: Rajah of Erase
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| Day: 5 Message: Countermoonie - you yelled at our three-times perfect ultraqueens? You yelled what at our girls? I certainly hope it was nothing but supportive and complimentary. We are very protective of our trusty angel girls and would look askance at any unsavory comment directed at them. Those are our Steely Dan girls and should be considered sacred icons not to be besmirched by anyone. Fess up and apologize to them. I'm waiting. User: Stella Dan
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| Day: 5 Message: To Countermoon and the person who blasted Countermoon: I was also there at the Keller in 5th (well, 7th if you counted properly, I hate ticketmaster)row center. I enjoyed the signs at first, I think also that DF enjoyed the signs and the support. I just think that maybe Countermoon, you got a *little* buzzed with the ($$$) harder-than-your-usual-concert libations that were available for sale at the Keller. Those things happen. At the encores, I rushed forward, and so did you, Countermoon. Unfortunately, you chose to raise your sign(s) for the most of the encore, really blocking my view of the main man, DF. I could have done without that, but I'm not sure that you deserved the scathing from the poster a few rows behind. I have mixed feelings about you, Countermoon, because you were genuinely having a great time... but along with the blocking of DF, you also freaked me out a little by being so pervy to the girls. The girls are beautiful, graceful and wonderfully strong, but I'm not sure how flattered they get by all the *remarks* that I heard, both at the Gorge from the dorks behind me (who delighted in putting duct tape on my friend's back? WTF?) and at the Keller. I think the ladies appreciate compliments -- and they rightly deserve many! But I think it can get a little scary with a bunch of drunk old (sorry) men in Hawaiian shirts leering and jeering at them. So, I agree with St. Al -- I'm not sure CM deserved such a response, but then again, my view got blocked too... Thank the goddess for binoculars. User: Richard
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| Day: 5 Message: Hi I'm a UK fan new to this board. A couple of thoughts - EMG is fab - Keith Carlock's work is out of the top draw and I sincerrely hope the show comes to the UK Cheers Richard User: top ten things St Al remembers from the gorge show
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| Day: 5 Message: Get well soon St Al 11) babbling on and on sisters and the bad sneakers of those all around him gimt User: PretzelBoy
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| Day: 5 Message: Drove over to the Gorge from Boise Friday night. On Saturday, as we were sitting around the campsite doing "stuff", a couple of those Barneys in gray HOB shirts were going around asking campers if they'd seen anyone walking through with "fake credentials". Sounds like this was, in fact, blown way out of proportion. Did the "counterfeiter" journey from Boise, as well? User: dianeDianeDIANE
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| Day: 5 Message: St. Al's comments about "Steely Dan security" ring true with me, the more I remember about the Gorge and its administrators from working there in 1994. Although it was MCA at the time, and most of the bands did come with their own security strings, when one sees the whole picture, it makes perfect sense that the overreactions would have come from HOB security and mostly, the overly earnest Grant County Sheriff. It is so "centralwashington" to overreact to a potential "crime." The fact that bogus badges had been seen previously, not to mention the "fan" trespass in Portland the night before, definitely set the scene. Mike never had a chance. Those people over there have to be affected by the mass quantities of pesticides in the air, not to mention being upwind from Hanford. I know. I lived there. I gained 10 IQ points just crossing the Cascades into Seattle! So, allow me to say I believe no entity calling itself "Steely Dan Security" was involved in this whole affair. We will be having "Free The Badges" benefit in Seattle sometime soon... all proceeds go to paying Mike's losses. I'm not kidding. I'm glad people enjoyed the show and our coverage of it. There's more on the newsgroup (where I live) at alt.music.steely-dan. love and kisses User: StAl
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| Day: 5 Message: Wow! Though I'm not sure Countermoon deserved such a harsh reply, I certainly see their point. I 've been there, man, and I feel your pain. Though I fully understand these types of events are a celebrations of sorts, I also believe in the collective governing of such an event. If the rest of the audience is sitting and you're the only one standing on top of their chair, then SIT THE FUCK DOWN or go stand in the back. And Countermoon -- I'm not implying you're this type of fan and I'm really glad you enjoyed the show. You're right on your last 3 points. Relax -- be happy -- life is too short. The show was awesome. Unfortunately due to the condition of my shoulder and the pain killers I was taking, most of it was a blur. Diane did a fantastic job of capturing the color, as did Randy on his BLOG, which you can read here: http://www.podbaydoor.com/ Highlight for me was Carlock on Josie. Move over Dennis Chambers. My new favorite Steely Dan drummer is... Lastly, I posted this to the engorgement list but if feel it's important that people know the little problem that Mike faced with the bogus passes had nothing to do with "Steely Dan Security." This was a House Of Blues thing all the way. I guess the cops and the event security were bored with a bunch of middle aged Steely Dan fans and decide to exercise their authority not on the puking teenagers they're normally faced with, but with big-bad counterfeiters from Idaho. What a bunch of shmucks. Next stop Dallas! StAl User: cobalt cigarettes
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| Day: 4 Message: Hey Countermoon . . . or rather COUNTERMOON (IN ENTHUSIASTIC CAPS!!!!!) I'm totally down with your enthusiasm for the band, the album, and the live shows. But I sat several rows behind you at Keller Auditorium on Friday, and I have to say your wide body and your big-ass green signs cheated at least 30 or 40 fans out of the great experience they expected. Yes, Donald was impressed with your green cardboard. Glad you enjoyed that little shout-out from him, since the rest of us couldn't even see his face because your lame sign completely obliterated it from our view. Tell you what, pal, respect the rest of the fans enough to let us show our appreciation in our own way, and we won't talk about how pathetic and desperate you looked, turning your back to the stage and acting like a cheerleader to the crowd, waving your dorky signs like some attention-starved idiot trying to get Al Roker's attention in Rockefeller Plaza. You were sitting, or NOT sitting, in a section where people paid big bucks for the tickets. How exactly do you think you made our concert experience more valuable by waving your arms and yelling at us for not being good enough fans? Save your cardboard for the Avril Lavigne tour, and let the rest of the grownups enjoy the show . . . or at least let us SEE the show without having to peer around your fat ass. You're lucky somebody didn't take you down at the knees. User: Jimbo
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| Day: 4 Message: John- If you go to the NPR website and find the link to Morning Edition, it not only has a link to the Steely Dan profile, but there is also a link to this website. NPR PAYS ATTENTION TO US! ST.AL- That's gotta put an extra pip to your pep! :) I don't know though if waking up at 5 am for Morning Edition is worth it, but I'll try. User: miss cave
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| Day: 4 Message: intheknow2 wrote "miss cave is dating a former 2yk touring band member" would that be Ari Ambrose? Chris Potter? Bob Sheppard? lucky dog User: major dude
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| Day: 4 Message: sounds like a great setlist intresting mix of old & new. sd hasn't been to memphis since '73 looking foward to a great show.this calls for a danfest wingding! anyone intrested ? the dan don't venture down south very much we'll be sure to show wb & df some good ole home of rock n'roll hospitality User: In the Know2
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| Day: 4 Message: Ms. Cave is also dating a former 2K band member. She's in the loop. User: John
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| Day: 4 Message: Evidently NPR Morning Edition will feature a two-part series on Steely Dan starting Tuesday morning. This from the NPR site: Aug. 5, 2003 -- If Steely Dan's new album sounds familiar, it's because it features the distinctive style -- the smooth but funky jazz -- that Walter Becker and Donald Fagen have brought to their music for more than 30 years. "It's only when you listen closely that you start to hear the subtle variations within that style," NPR's Steve Inskeep says in a two-part report on the band on Morning Edition. "An unfamiliar rhythm, or a bright new melody... plays off against the words of bitter, nasty, beaten, characters in an album called Everything Must Go." They write about older characters on their new release -- people shutting down businesses, closing down marriages. But they're still drawing on the same mixture of pop tunes and jazz recordings they admired while growing up in the 1950s and '60s. "I think we formed our values when we were pretty young that probably haven't changed that much," Fagen says. "Music we listened to, what we read... and the contrast between art and what we lived through at the time, that sort of formed the basis of where we're coming from." Becker adds: "I think there's even more... the march of post-modernity has been reflected in our work. We are even more self-referential than we were." And every bit as funny. Fagen doesn't let his musical partner get too far with his last remark: "When is the post-modernity march?" Becker doesn't miss a beat: "It's going to be in about 10 minutes, actually. We're on the irony float this year." User: angel
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| Day: 4 Message: Wormy: My friend showed me that whisper trick that you can do in the tunnel under Grand Central Station. Pretty cool. User: wormy
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| Day: 4 Message: father william - I'm envious, enjoy the show tonight LP - thanks so much - loved the card, enjoy the show sign me up on the tones live dvd petition several weeks ago I posted that they should drop Do It Again and Reelin Please drop PEG and Hey 19, insert Lunch With Gina, EMG, Dr Wu, and West of Hollywood ANgel has a point, if you are at a show call out for EMG numbers not in the current set YGK - did you ever get my letter? wormbraininvain User: jjeff( I think I'm in love, Diane)
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: dDD: That was excellent stuff, woman. Oh to have the jouie de vivre you and your group have. A perfect world would allow all of us put the race on hold, cross the track and sit in the stands whenever we want to or join the halftime show. Thanks so much and may some of us emulate. User: ~
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: top ten things us stateside can do for the euro dan contingent 12) get closeup photo stills for Howard on the complex new mu chords gimt User: Rajah of Erase
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: OK Tonzy- DE-NEE-NER, DE-NEE-NER, DE-NEE-NER. You have been officially de-nee-ner-ed, with my sincere apologies. Never let it be said that the Raj was ungracious in admitting to a lapse in understanding. User: duncan ''ta noo''
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: road to petition....i'm in Petition to Petition angel to Petition Whoever to Petition the Dan's Management to Petition the Two into Considering a Soundstage High-Def Remote Broadcast or Taping of the Show of Their Choice: hahaha hehehe...i'm a laughing clown & you can't catch me !!! User:
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: ah... it was "my rough vignettes"... User: dianeDianeDIANE
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: I am only one of about a dozen people who are also planning to post--in greater fine detail--about the Gorge, the music, the parties, the talk, and the sex. I deliberately did not take a pad and pen with me this time because I wanted to enjoy without taking notes, so much was left out that wasn't at the front of my brain. Also, St. Al is hurtin. Typing is complicated. He was a real trouper to show up at all. Send your love his way. The 2vN tour *was* amazing. But I believe the 2003 tour, so far, compares very favorably, based solely on the Gorge 2000 and Gorge 2003 shows I attended. It's moronic to assume, at this early date, that the tour won't evolve in certain ways, as well. I know Mansfield and Jones Beach and Dallas are always killer shows, according to lore and oral history. But in this tour, D&W are just so lively and vital, Donald's voice is so good, and all the musicians are so attuned to the music of the spheres that trying to compare these to the 1994 or 1996 or 2000 shows is impossible. Love and kisses to all the ships at sea and Danfans in Englewood, CO diane User: Yesterday in Musical History
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| Day: 4 Message: August 3, 1974 User: t
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: rut roh... User: angel (proud to be Godwackers trusty angel girl)
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| Day: 4 Message: Tones: You know where that petition's going after you all finish signing it? (What was the name of that music store again?) LOL User: t
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: Raj - no problem... just *please* de-NEE NER me... angel - Petition? What petition? User: Rajah of Erase
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: Tonzy - Oh, mi bad, oopser. User: angel
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: That was my post. I guess it doesn't take " in the title. User: Proud to be
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: LP: Glad to have you back on the Yellow. I loved that area of Maine. Tones: Ixnay on the petitionay.... ;-) YGK: My little one won't let me forget that I screamed "Slang Me" when Walter stepped up to the mike in Paso Robles. Also thrown in my face, is that fact that I also yelled "the Audi TT" when they started Things I Miss the Most. I just wanted them to know that someone bought their latest album and was very happy to hear a cut from it. :-) Just for the record, I loved Carlock's playing. He is really great. But I also liked Ricky Lawson's drumming. I don't feel it is a one or the other thing. Both bring something nice to the Steely Dan table. User: toh-nz
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: Raj - I wasn't trying to inspire any cyberattacks your way. No no no... I meant the 50 million strong petition would be sent to the Two in hopes of inspiring a lasting document of this tour. And so far you're #4 on the list. Please de-NEE NER me... User: In Direct From Lhasa
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: Yah this Yo-Yo-less thinks using different OS signatures on here will conceal his identity. N/Dope. User: YGK
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: If I can handle it, I want to make a sign saying, "Damn, She Skipped Dimensions", for use during Slang.......and I encourage all of yous to scream the appropriate phrase during the song..... "Damn! She skipped DIMENSIONS!" my $.02 ygk User: lp
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: hey all! tones, whasup? wormy! got you letter? great posts! back from vacation in southern maine - now i know why i went north - though the beaches are more beachy... august is here and that means the east coast dates are a-comin! that setlist is awesome!!!!! massachusetts and new hampshire danfests anyone? switching subjects - made an impulse purchase for cd's and got the release called "keep it together" from a band called 'guster' (so out of it now, huh) - it's from this year - they sound a little like crowded house if you like them - good stuff alos pre-ordered my new natalie merchant release back to the piles on my desk... User: .DACW
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: Gargantuan Georgeos Gorge Reports!! Violation of Copyright? That pertains to distribution of written, performed or recorded art, text, etc...NOT gabbing between sets or after the show...Security is gonna have to do better than that... User: countermoon
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: TOUR IS FAR FAR FAR FAR FROM LACKLUSTER-IT ROCKS AND JAZZES TO DA MAX BUY TICKETS, DRIVE 6 HOURS LIKE WE DID, HAVE FUN AND BE HAPPY THEY DO NOT PLAY STADIUM SHOWS FOR WAYYYY TOOOO MANY PEOPLE. SHOW THEM YOU CARE- THEY WILL LIKE IT---THEY DESERVE IT BE POSITIVE - MAKES LIFE MORE FUN AND ENJOYABLE LISTEN TO TONS OF STEELY DAN--- IT ALSO MAKES YOU HAPPY!!!!! User: father william
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: wormy - another thing to do at red rocks when it's empty is to have a conversation at a normal speaking level with someone on the stage while you are at the back of the seating area. Fifteen years ago, I lived about five miles downstream from red rocks. I suspect red rocks is too small, compared to fiddler's where I'll be tonight. It does have great cycling, especially if you are skinny, which I'm not. User: Beerberian
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: Danorak; hear hear !! ... I am however making do with live "dan" The Jailhouse (which incidentally is where "kicking the dog" will get you LOL) Coventry Friday 8th Aug www.thedancollective.co.uk Come join us in the deprivedand or depraved euro zone !! User: Green-eyed monster
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: I'd just like to say that we U.K.-based danophiles are not at all affected by reading the salivating reports from the current tour, or by the fact that no European dates are forthcoming. Also these facts bear no relation to my recently-acquired habit of kicking the dog or any recent road-rage incidents in which I have become embroiled. Hope this clears things up then. User: The 2003 Lackluster Tour
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: Lukewarm reviews, bad sound, pathetic ticket sales, State Fair venues....Tour 2k it ain't. User: Beerberian
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: Wow Geology lessons for free ... Did get to see Red Rocks - unfortunately empty , when I was over in Feb ... The Dan ever played there ? Perhaps St Al has thrown his shoulder again whilst attempting the famous Merengue ? User: wormy
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: diane cubed Another great venue is Red Rocks Amplitheatre in Morrison Colorado, I used to live 5 miles up the street. Check out U2 live at Red Rocks or Neil Youngs later DVD recorded there. For some reason Fiddler's Green is now used more often (8/4 dan show) The red eolian dune and thick conglomerates Fountain formation sandstones of Pennsylvanian age tilted up against precambrian granite forming a natural amplitheatre, hogback of morrison teaming with dino prints and denver spreadout below. FDR's new deal did a great job of capturing this. THis was the destination for deadheads 4 day stands in the mid eighties. Used to love cycling by and chatting with people from all over and climbing the adjacent ledges. cavernous stalker? too funny wormTom perhaps St Al is still recovering from the gorge show? GODSPEED on the recovery User: Moll
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: Slinky, I guess I'm a bit dim but exactly how does one be a stalker on the internet? This is just words on a screen. I don't have to read any archives to figure out that there are a few folks out in Banyan Trees land that don't have both oars in the water. lol lol User: in the know
| Month: 7
| Day: 4 Message: slinky redfoot let me be more specific there was a stalker here on the Guestbook read the 2000 archives, it's rather obvious who this person was User: t
| Month: 7
| Day: 3 Message: dDD! - *sigh*... that was wonderful. Thanks for taking us there... User: dianeDianeDIANE
| Month: 7
| Day: 3 Message: Okay, listen. We all know that Don and Walt always say what a great audience they are playing for. But anyone whoÆs been to the Gorge knows thereÆs a distinct difference in the way they say it when they are there. The Gorge is one of the most fantastic venues in the world, simply by dint of its amazing topography. The acoustics ainÆt bad, either. It is really difficult to attend a show there and not feel that you are on the verge of having a spiritual experience, if not a full-blown mystical episode. IÆve had one every time IÆve gone, and thereÆs no indication anything is ever going to change. Guys like Walt and Don love it there, not only because of the obvious things, but because backstage there are nice dressing rooms and a huge deck overlooking this incredible canyon, divided by the Columbia River, formed by gigantic glaciers millions of years ago. The deck is completely protected by security so theyÆre not molested by fans, but they can invite the friends of their choice to have a bite there and visit before the show, which they always do. The setlist was essentially the same as the other shows to date. My comments on the musicianship are the same as everyone elseÆs here. Keith Carlock plays the drums like he has four arms and six legs. Tom Barney has never been better. Walt Weiskopf has a breadth of talent heretofore unseen in the horn section. Don and Walt are as witty and gifted as ever. I never saw Don pace around a stage as much as he did for this show. He was here, then he was there, then he was over thereà it was great fun. His voice was flawless, and as usual, he forgot some of the words, this time, to Kid Charlemagne. IÆve never seen them play where he hasnÆt flubbed the words on just one song. Don pronounces ôAltamiraö as alta-MEERA, fyi. IÆm bummed that Walt never says ôSLANG ME!ö I was readyùwe were ALL readyùto sing along! IÆm not sure if Walt was confused and forgot he was in Washington, because when he sang ôIf you grew up inà ô he said ôOregon,ö and lots of hoots were shared from the Oregonians in the audience. It was great fun, at last, to hear The Steely Dan Show Walter did a great job on Haitian Divorce. The Gorge crowd was definitely letting him know they love it when he sings. I love the lighting on Don't Take Me Alive, where they turn Jon Herington into a bunch of dots, essentially, as if he were under police spotlights or perhaps about to be beamed up to the mother ship. Also, it was really nice and a great crowd pleaser when they shined the lights up on the cliffs. The people up there were screaming and cheering. And let me say this just one more time: IF THEY EVER PLAY THE GORGE AGAIN, and that is a big if, considering those scary ticket sales, drag your asses out here to see them. You will never experience anything like it. And you can sleep on my couch, on my floor, in my bed, in my bathtub, on my patio, in my closet, or any other space you need to save money on hotels and stuff. But donÆt miss it again. and that's all she wrote.... love and kisses User: dianeDianeDIANE
| Month: 7
| Day: 3 Message: One of our guests-to-be was Mike from Idaho, who had sent advance copies of the mylars he was bringing as party favors. He had made these to look like some kind of backstage passes that hung around the necks on lanyards. Over the picture of the briefcase and shoes from the Steely Dan websiteùa photo that was OFFERED for use for promotional purposes at the website, mind you, dowloadable and copyright-infringement-freeùhe had the headline, ôenGORGEment 2003ö and below the picture he had written, ôAll-excess Party Pass.ö We loved them. We were all wearing them at SuedaveÆs party and we had all worn them to the Gorge. God bless ya, Mike. I had made a sign out of a sandwich board upon which I had lettered ôGoing out of BusinessùEverything Must Goö and had set it atop the rental van to let people know where we were. Gorge security came by and made me take it down. I decided to appeal the decision so I went to the office, and with a little smooth talking, they let me keep it out of the van in front, but not on top. But a few minutes later Kevin from Spokane, security supervisor, came over and said, ôI have bad news for youàö and I said, ôWhat?ö and he said, ôIÆm going to have to confiscate that,ö and pointed at my All Excess badge. He explained that it was considered a counterfeit and a violation of intellectual property. He said anyone wearing one would be arrested. The few of us who had our badges in sight were forced to turn them over. He had a sheet of counterfeit models of backstage passes and showed them to me. I used to work security at the Gorge and I did understand, but for fuckÆs sakeà as I saw later, these badges in NO WAY resembled the stickers people were wearing who actually DID have backstage access. He was apologetic, explaining that it was not his decision, but a joint dictum of House of Blues and Steely Dan security. I did, for a few minutes, think about the copyright infringement issue and I did see their point. But an hour later when I got a call from Mike on my cell phone, I began to think differently. What had happened was that Mike arrived for the Danfest with these badges. Security saw them and hauled him in, confiscating the badges and ejecting him from the Gorge. They said he couldnÆt go to the concert and if he returned to the Gorge he would be arrested for criminal trespass! The criminal trespass idea was apparently the House of Blues managerÆs idea. So Mike, major dude and Danfan, who did a silly, simple, completely innocent thing, was banished. It pissed me off so I went back to security headquarters again to talk to Kevin. I told him what had happened to Mike and of course, he already knew, because heÆd been part of the force that ejected him. I begged and pleaded that he be let back in so he could see the show, and CMS security said it was okay with them. So I called him back on his cell phone and told him he could come to the show, but he couldnÆt camp overnight. Soon as I got back to the campground, Kevin came by again and apologized, saying that HOB and SD security and the Grant County Sheriff had all just told him that Mike was not allowed back in under any circumstances. I had to call him one more time to tell him that. Then someone radioed over and said that if he wanted to come back and just go ahead in, it would be okay as long as he didnÆt run into the sheriff. But I didnÆt think Mike would want to take that risk, and he was already almost mortally wounded from what had happened. It was really fucked up. It was a tempest in a teapot. HOB and SD security should be ashamed of themselves for not seeing what it was: a hick from the sticks danfan, and Idaho spud, just trying to join in with all of us who were making EMG-themed party favors, contributing to the general levity. It would have been sufficient to take away his toys and let him go to the show. It was wrong, just plain wrong, to exile him. That put a damper on the event, but the show must go on, so we continued to gather and party. We met many more Danfans we knew nothing about, who just came by because they saw the sign, and we had a great time. The youngest official Danfans there had to be Michael and Matt from Seattle, who were there with their grandpa, a man just a little older than me. At 18 and 15, they were well-schooled and knowledgeable in All Things Dan. And they had both been there in 2000 for the 2vN tour, so they were veterans. Without Hoops, without Oleander, without This Moody Bastard, Raoul Duke, The Charmer and Miz Ducky, it was a more sedate event than it would have been if these maniacs had been in attendance. But again, we carried on, and at 7pm we were in our seats, locked and loaded. The show began as all the shows begin. The band comes out and begins to play a jazzy tune. This tourÆs tune is Cubano Chant, as everyone else has already noted. Then come guitar wranglers and what, bodyguards? and Walter and Donald appear to screams and hoots and wailing and gnashing of teeth. Everyone was on his feet. The din was deafening. Walt and Donald looked shocked. It looked to me like it was taking every voluntary muscle they had to keep from busting into tears or huge grins. And it was like that all during the show, beginning with Aja. They got a standing ovation after every song. The vibe was incredibleùthis wave of love crashing down from the tiered hillside, across the main floor, and onto the stage. more, even more, to follow.... love and kisses User: dianeDianeDIANE
| Month: 7
| Day: 3 Message: OUR 2ND SEATTLE/enGORGEment celebration began at SuedaveÆs in West Seattle on Friday night. Sue and Dave really put on the dogà literally. IÆll explain that in a minute. Sue spares no attention to detail. She had Rolfe, the Steely Dan Promo Dog (not copyrighted, no infringement thereà and I will explain THAT later, too), Szechuan Dumplings, Cuervo Gold, the fine whatevah, Cuban Breezes, a bartender named Gretchen, cherry wine (Manieschevitz), Swedish ginger cookies, honey mustard and Red Beans and Rice (for a quarter). Outside on the deck she had a small wooden bar, with the punchbowl full of Cuban Breezes, sand all over the top, seashells, and across the front a banner which read, MANATEE BAR. And on the top of the bar she had designed wrappers for Hershey bars with art including pictures of Manatees, and these, too, were labeled ôManatee Bar.ö It was hilarious and fantastic. Now, thereÆs something you need to know. ôGretchenö was not the woman she used to be. In fact, she was a man named Jeffrey, a sweet and funny gay hairdresser. He was almost the highlight of the evening. All you had to say was, ôWould you pour me a Cuban Breeze, Gretchen?ö and it was there with great flourish and aplomb. But that wasnÆt what really slayed me. BARRYTOWN PHARMACY I had distributed these to everyone, including Gretchen. When he saw the dog on the floor, he opened up his bottle, spilled a few ôpillsö on the floor around MidnightÆs mouth, and laid the bottle and cap beside themùstaging, as it were, a doggie suicide. Then he and I both screamed, ôOh my god! The dog!ö and that damn dog didnÆt even budge. She laid there and looked dead, to everyoneÆs great amusement. Later, Gretchen drew a masking tape outline around her body. Then he laid the statue of Rolfe, The Steely Dan Promo Dog, on the floor and made a tape outline of it. A gigantic basset hound strolled in and sort of blobbed itself down on the floor, and dutifully Gretchen outlined him, as well. Then he laid himself down and taped his form, getting up to add a masking-tape-marked penis and two nipples. We were screamin. It was hilarious. It was art. It was just like all of Sue and DaveÆs parties. There were about 35 people there, not counting kids and dogs. Many gifts were exchanged and much food was eaten and booze drunk. Some Portland fans phoned in every 20 minutes or so and held up a cell phone and we listened to the live feed, although it was a bad signal and cut in and out, sadly. The cast of characters included The Usual Suspects, either at SuedaveÆs or at my apartment or at the Gorge: Sue, Dave, Mark the Chimp, Guavagirl Terry, Fandango Julie, da Bill from Houston, Hans Verlouw from Holland, Rurick from Central Cali, Tony from North Carolina, Aric from San Diego, Michael and Andrew, 20- and 21-year-old Danfans from Bothell, Washingtonùthey had been there three years earlier, tooà good kids, raised right. Then there was St. Al, Sheila the mesmerist, Mike ôMagic Shoesö McLaughlin from the Olympic Peninsula, Doc Diamond from Oregon, Randy and Chris Reichart from Canada, Joe, Jane and Jason from Cleveland, bearing gifts from the RockÆnÆRoll Hall of Fame, Ed Beattyùalthough I never actually saw him and am by no means convinced he was really thereùJeff, Sean, Jason from Portland and others I canÆt remember but HEY! IÆve been drinking for three days and have had about five hours of sleep, okay? Okay! Slang me! another installment follows..... love and kisses User: dianeDianeDIANE
| Month: 7
| Day: 3 Message: GREETINGS, DANFANS EVERYWHEREà and special salutations to the pilgrims along the road, headed to Denver or St. Paul, or points east, south, westà The King is alive; Long Live the King, STEELY DAN! Just as last time (2000 tour), celebrations began Friday and continued through the weekend. I am taking a break to write these impressions of enGORGEment 2003, Steely Dan at the Gorge in George, Washington. By my count, this is the sixth Steely Dan show at the Gorge, beginning in 1993. I worked at the Gorge in 1994 and they played two shows at the end of the summer. In 1996, they scheduled two shows, then cancelled one. In 2000, they played one show to about 15,000 people, I think. When we arrived at the Gorge and entered the campground, security told me they had sold only 4,500 tickets in advance and expected a crowd of 6,000. That was scary. But apparently, a lot of people wait until the day of the show to buy tickets for $10 or more OFF Ticketmaster prices, because there were at least 10,000 people there by the time the show startedù10,000 people madly in love with Steely Dan. This was much different than the 2000 show, with all the yuppies coming in late with their cell phones, sitting in the first few rows and then getting up and leaving after three songs. The fans who converged on the Gorge this time all desperately wanted to be there. The vibe was electrifying. Don and Walt can testify. They could barely keep straight faces against the tangible phalanx of LUV sweet love. First and foremost, I want to say something about the To Dance or Not to Dance controversy, which was much discussed, and heatedly, in 2000. My pal and I had really good seats, 10 rows back from the stage, almost centeredùalthough Walter, as usual, was obscured by that fucking music stand he always keeps next to the other music stand by his mike. WALTER, COME ON! We think youÆre cute. We want to SEE you! Lower the music stand, please! ItÆs not fair and itÆs not right. DonÆt do it. Dance for the first four bars, then sit down. If you are such a dork that you havenÆt mastered the art of seat-dancing, you should just stay home. And if you canÆt listen to great music without getting up in dancing, I recommend you see a behavioral therapist and get some meds for your affliction. Over along the sides, in the aisles, and around back, there is plenty of room for dancing, and lots of your friends dancing. We all dig it. But donÆt ruin someone elseÆs show because you just canÆt help yourself. After screaming at them and being ignored through Time Out of Mind and Godwhacker, I finally started throwing things at themà. heh heh hehà Fortunately my companion had several beer caps which were launched with great accuracy at the intended targets. And yet, they would not sit down. I was fuming. So I stood up and leaned across the row in front of us and yelled, ôSIT THE FUCK DOWN!ö to which the male asshole replied sweetly, ôGet up and dance, come on, dance with us, itÆs great music!ö I said, with considerable restraint, ôMy seatmate has cerebral palsy and he CANÆT get up and dance, and you and Mrs. Asshole are completely blocking our view!ö This took a second to sink in, and I sat back down, as did he. Then he gestured for me to lean forward again and I did, and he said, ôDonÆt they have handicapped seating?ö Man, I tells ya, I was ready to take this guy OUT. What kind of attitude is that? Disabled people are not allowed to sit with the abled? They should have their own sections, segregated and far away from the stage? He said something to the effect that HE wasnÆt blocking my friendÆs view but his girlfriend was, and shrugged his shoulders like, ôWhat are ya gonna do?ö But he sat down, and when she sat down he whispered to her and they turned around and looked. They continued to sit throughout ôCaves of Altamira,ö then apparently said ôFuck it,ö and got up and started dancing again when ôBlues Beachö began to play. >insert here>>> Heaviest of sighs. For unknown reasons, they got up and left when the band played ôBabylon Sisters.ö They didnÆt come back for a while, and when they did, they moved over to the front and center, where their brother, Cousin Asshole, was dancing in front of the poor souls behind him. So, dig this, a total of three people felt the need to dance, and because of this, a whole bunch of people who paid thousands of dollars for seats behind and beside them couldnÆt see or enjoy the whole show. How very special. Please, please, pleaseà. donÆt get up and dance. I didnÆt pay $100 to watch your skanky ass jiggling in front of my face. There is no argument that can rationalize getting up and dancing just because you paid for a SEAT in that section. Go stand. Go behind. Go fuck yourselves! But donÆt ruin my night. Okay, thatÆs my treatise on dancing in the Golden Circle of the Gorge. I will now backtrack and tell ya all the good stuff. PART TWO FOLLOWS..... User: Slinky_Redfoot
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| Day: 3 Message: Thanks for the information about Ms.Cave but can you give specifics regarding the matter. I thought she enjoyed the 2000 tour with Steely Dan? Well I guess she needed to look for herself in other fields. To bad because I believe she can truly blend it in with the band. Anyways, Thanks again. User: minah
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| Day: 3 Message: Happy Anniversay Mr. and Mrs. Stal! mW User: Rajah of Erase
| Month: 7
| Day: 3 Message: Indano - You are a cad, sir. You have my challenge. User: Aussie
| Month: 7
| Day: 3 Message: Halfway through a straight week vacation in Southampton and though I'd cheque in. A million thank yous to all of you posting the Dan tour goings ons (setlists, etc.)....I've enjoyed them all. Dan link: Three days ago, while dining at that fine Scottish restaurant, McDonald's Hamburgers (the girls insisted on fries and milkshakes after the beach), I heard on the restaurant speaker system "Blues Beach". I nearly choked on a french frye. Even better, the girls instantly picked up on it and grooved away during the balance of their not so well balanced meal. Counting the days to the Jones Beach danfest..... Be well everybody. Aus User: in the know
| Month: 7
| Day: 3 Message: slinky redfoot Miss Cave is no longer on the Steely Dan tour due to her own physical and emotional well being. The members of Steely Dan weighed in heavily on this one, and decided that rather than inspire the infatuated dreams of the old geezer crowd (especially one certain member of this guestbook who's name will go untold) that they would not dare take miss Cave on the road with them. Her latest ventures are just off broadway. User: Rajah of Erase
| Month: 7
| Day: 3 Message: Toenzy - I decided to take the high road and respond that, no indeed, thank you, there were no unwanted cybermissives received, and NEE NER NEE NER NEE NER, but, ok, I get your message. I really like the setlist from Portland. Goodbye Reelin in the Years and Do It Again, hello again Babylon Sisters and Blues Beach. Goodbye to The Last Mall for now at least. Hey 19 looks like it will stay but, c'mon, wouldn't you love to hear "Gina"? It's easy for this rythmn section to execute faithfully, it's not remotely as difficult live as Pixeleen, I've officially given up hope on that pipe dream, and since they darn-well recorded the sucka in glorious analogue, but, Donald will have to stand up with just a mike stand without an instrument. Does anybody out there have a recollection of DF standing minus some kinda axe evahh? Do it Donny Dark, just hang on to the top of the mike stand. Will we dig it? You KNOW we will. Countermooners - Now the lyric of "Don't Take Me Alive" is "crossed my old man" certainly not "shot my old man" Shot my old man only comes into focus after the next line, "...don't take me alive." Yeah, that's what the sense of it is certainly and it's illuminating to see your recollection of the lyric reflects the substance, not the form, but just tighten up a bit, or the moon WILL play tricks on you. User: Mike
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| Day: 3 Message: was wondering if anybody else has heard about this Roseland post p.s. The Funk Filharmonik are AMAZING! FUNKSGIVING 18 User: countermoon
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| Day: 3 Message: ADD ON TO PORTLAND SPOILER--- SCROLL DOWN AND READ report 1st please To open with AJA is "magical" to see time out of mind live is "mind altering" Godwacker is unreal LIVE, you will walk away from the show singing it to your mate or friends, over and over again Caves- who would have guessed this live, it is spectacular blues beach- super fun, chilling at the manatae bar......since I am a surfer -windsurfer-kiteboarder- this is agreat beach person song!! if you have not been to the beach in a while will make you feel like you are there User: DACW
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| Day: 3 Message: Z: that darn Deludin hangover - no, does that mean your only exercise in the Clinic is Jumping to Conclusions?? EMG constructed more even like Ellington used to than previous albums (they've always had that writing to sound extemoraneous), and uses the kind of 40s jazz blues as a base - never said nor does it actually SOUND just like Ellington though...it's rock reset...everything must go... User: Slinky_Redfoot
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| Day: 3 Message: User: jjeff
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| Day: 3 Message: Great stuff, countermoon. Thanks for starting my day on a good note. User: countermoon
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: REPORT SPOILER FROM PORTLAND---REPORT SPOILER FROM PORTLAND OREGON 8-1-03 We have been lucky enough to be at Shoreline in 93, both Gorge shows in 97 and Rose Garden Portland Oregon in 2000. Then last night for 2003!!!!! All shows have been Fantastic. Last night was "Stellar at the Kellar" a small 2992 person indoor venue used for concerts and opera and plays in downtown Portland Oregon! The crowd energy was pumped the whole show and the band felt it and liked it!!! Set list was varied slightly and band seemed very tight, Sound from up close center was superb, all the whole band seemed happy with all the great crowd fan response. We got alot of eye contact with the band with our seats being so close!!! SETLIST 1. The Steely Dan Show(with fun sing along!) Encore: User: z
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: My many contacts on the outside have informed me that WB caught Amsterdamned jazz guitarist Leonardo Amuedo's trio at a club in the Netherworld and was so impressed, he wrote the liner notes to the cat's latest CD. User: countermoon
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: report and setlist I will have up from portland in a hour or so, just arrived home from 6 hour drive home to bandon by the sea!! User: toenz
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: Bab's sisters! We should all just quit our jobs and follow the tour this summer... I will if you will. Thanks wonderworm - haven't laughed so hard at the gb in ages... Also glad to see my name isn't the last one on the petition anymore. I was feeling a little exposed. snakie - thanks luv. Guys and gals, don't leave Raj dangling. It might be a futile exercise, but an email with 50 million double spaced names in an obnoxiously LARGE but easy to read font should at least make an impression. Danooooo, Gina, lp, Aja... How's it goin', ya doosiers? DACW - "EMG is One Alien Nation Under a Groove" - absolutely! "our savage vignettes" - wasn't that it? pieces t User: Moll
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: Y'all are giving new meaning to the term " Yellow Fever".........lmao User: gorging out
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: ode to Pat and the gorge gang to Lunch with Gina We're at the Gorge again this endless tasteful tune we're in st al's corner he's got nothing but time now I'm in my own lawn chair I shout out I'm in a cozy groove the evening never ends Janie Runs Away gimt User: portland
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: they played bab. sisters. new light and video show. crowd was crazy (good) - excel sound. A+ show User: missing line
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: 10.2 "is stable and easy to navigate." User: DACW
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: StAL: That's funny. Does sound like OS 10.0. 10.1 and 10.0 are beta versions - let the public ID problem areas for Apple. OS 10.2. Corrections with 10.2 or 9.2 and earlier. Unlike DOS (a 1970s tech. compiler), files NEVER disappear. First of all, any file on 9.2 or before should be place on the desktop as an ALIAS with the real program on the hard drive folder. However, if you accidentally erase the name, the icon is still there - just rename it! If it is on the desktop folder, the blank recognizable icon if arranged by "name" would be at the top of the folder - rename it and it goes back to it's proper position. It is also incorrect on OS 10.2 that the system will freeze or even programs will freeze - I've had a "pause or two", but the eMac has NEVER frozen in one full year of use. Finally there is indeed a operation that will rescue files from a crashed hard drive using "clean system reinstall." This is accomplished easily by rebooting with the original OS disc and a few clicks...I've repaired computers at home and school without losing a file. one time I forgot to keep our servers IP address after fixing the computers, and the Computer Nazis discovered my ommitance and chewed me out - soehow we're afraid to fire these people...So the next offic crash, I let them take it down to their lab for the "operation." After the morons used Ed Norton on it and "wiped" it with a magnet, 2/3 of the files were gone!!! and its performance has been marginal since then...fortunately I had backed up 97% of the files on other computers/servers... While the plan was successful, I'm now sufferring as seems often my fate with post-traumatic stuff...am now a huddled mass of protoplasm in a corner... User: Everyone Must Gorge
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: It's high times and a walk on the real side Talk about your mirror stage in a funhouse We gave up our best spot On the can I'm diggin' Mis September Can it be the northwest sun is setting timg User: Rajah of Erase
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: Petition to Petition angel to Petition Whoever to Petition the Dan's Management to Petition the Two into Considering a Soundstage High-Def Remote Broadcast or Taping of the Show of Their Choice: Jimbo heheheheheh User: StAl
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: MU, Tones, this one's for you... http://www.ancientspear.com/mac.wmv All computers suck. End of story. On my way to the Gorge. Have fun everyone. StAl User: snakehips
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: Jimbo User: checking back on the yellow on the way out
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: wow my siamese friend is on the bait another walt tune to tune Green Book My throat is hacked and my mood is yellow I'm rolling into my swanky hotel suite her posts they rock and her prose is deep now gimt User: DACW
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: C: What I lack primarily is SKILL...who knew and picked up that Walter and Donald read music, arrange, and designed a band more like Ellington, to sound improvosiational, but is not...and who didn't? You've completely missed the point. JoS, unlike most of the rest of TvN, sounds the most like Steely Dan I "'cept not as good." That familiarity I contend is why many people like the song...I don't think the lyrics are particularly interesting. The tune's OK thanks to the bridge. In contrast, West of Hollywood, Negative Girl, and Almost Gothic are Fresh. WASAM and Janie snappy and well-integrated...the intro to the title track something new...Gaslighting Abbie swings live... EMG has consistently better (more lyrical - less chromatic) songs...and the string of recordings from GreenBook, Pixeleen, Lunch with Gina, through the title track are as good as anything they've ever recorded...none sound like Steely Dan I... User: Singing Aja
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: You think the singing is way dull Drop another Quaaluuuuuude Now did you pass out in the Mezzanine File another lawsuuuuuuit Are you all done with the screaming? Damn -- you skipped dime dancin' timg User: pretzel logic year of our lord two thousand and trey
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: I would love to tour the westcoast I have never played in Tahoe I step up on the platform gimt User: jjeff
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: Jimbo:Yeah, JT was definitely booed. I'm not a fan of his, but there's no need for reaction like that. It's uncivilized. I felt sorry for the guy and had to admire? that he continued his set( which was really not that bad). Ya know, people should be more tolerant of differences. When The Flaming Lips first came on the vocalist said, " Do you want to hear some music?", at which point they played some recorded opera which I can't name(involves a choir chanting syllables in groups of six apocalyptically in descending notes. Help me out people.) User: terran imperator
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: DACW---- This may be a good example of a lack of musical technical knowledge being an advantage. Perhaps we shouldn't want to know how the magic trick is done. If "Jack Of Speed" uses songwriting techniques that have been used countless times before, why would that mean that they have not been used very, very well, in this case? REM once said they pulled out every hackneyed songwriting trick in the book on Automatic For The People, yet it's probably their most respected album, and it can't be accused of being commercial crap, or uninspired. It's the best thing they ever did, and I loathe predictable commercial crap. I swear that (at least if you don't listen to it with technical musicianship considerations in mind) that this elicits a gut-level emotional response right up there with their best songs. I'm far morejaded than is healthy in any human being, but this song makes my jaw drop. Boston Rag------ I operate within a somewhat different sector of the economy than the rest of you. My Disability income is about $570 a month. I've only just now gotten hold of EMG through interlibrary-loan. User: stevieadds
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: and how could i forget... it's been special to have a return to form by timg/gimt. my boys are like siamese bob hopes... User: steviedlurking
| Month: 7
| Day: 2 Message: st al, i WARNED you about those vin diesel/matrix-like tube maneuvers and yet you insist on doing your own stunts... clas, a gb compilation ? no really, i've never heard of such... oh clas, you are the colonel tom parker of gb cd producers, man. how could i have NOT heard of it. thanx for asking but: a) currently i have no decent recording equipment and b) efforts at recording directly from our board live are unbalanced at best and c) we play out once to twice a week, i teach 6-8 people an hour each a day, so while i enjoy listening to music in the off time, lately i haven't really allocated time to a recording project. one of these days... tonez, could it be possible ? maybe walter and i are masters of obvious humor. i do play a strat but as for dna, there will be no double helix in the sky tonight... btw, tangentially, thanx dunc. it just came to walter and i... ON THE SAME FRICKKIN' DAY. PSYCHE !!!!! a belatedly BLAEZER BD ! bluz is playing the "steviedan album of the week"(TM): carla bley's "looking for america"... man, you play some shiznit ! z, i think you and c get a tad confrontational with these fun contests and compilation thingies. a bit challenging aren't we ? as to the godwhacker solo quote i may have felt a little sting as a possibly alleged yet non-professed "so-called jazz expert" and the inference that said "so-called jazz experts" seemed to be avoiding your steely query. speaking for this huge jazz enjoyer (i checked to find that i DON'T have phil's "evolution" among the 25-plus phil woods albums i have), i haven't even had emg at my home for the past two weeks. it's in our gig bag, from which we'll pull it tomorrow at the gig and BLAST the mofo over our p.a., including "blues beach", "blues clues", "steely dan's twelve bar program", whathaveya. i'm sure i've heard what you're referring to, but i may recognize, be able to write out, whatever, without being able to name it. i'll check it out... keep the show colour comin', folks ! you are loved. peaceout steviedan User: jet boys
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Jimbo, your Justin Timberlake boner is showing. User: jimbo
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: jjeff- On the subject of the Toronto concert, I saw a clip of Justin Timberlake with the Stones. WHY? He does not deserve to be on stage tones- Cool idea for the petition. EVERYBODY SIGN UP! User: NYB
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Just got back from Westbury Music Fair here on Long Island where I caught Hiatt & The Goners were out of this world. It was worth the money just "You can say what you want, I'm not gettin' old. User: Slinky_Redfoot
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: User: Rajah of Erase
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: OK Beerbelan - the "Hunch". I'll take a shot. Do your worst. It works great when you're reaching down and testifying for that classic blues thang, that's why I call that guitarist in the 2-player presentation in both bands the "Cowboy" of the two. Allmans is what I'm thinking. (great new album by the way) But on numbers like Kid and Peg, I miss that "head back" thing is how I can best explain it at certain points when Mr. Herington (a great player understand, all hail) just, for me, tightened up instead of letting it rip, damn the torpedoes. So whip it on me baby, Marques of Queensbury Rules. User: DACW
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Rajah: In thinking about the monster that is Carlock...Herington is interesting...but I imagined someone who could go blow by blow with Carlock and BURN THE MUTHA DOWN...someone oddly that Steely Dan has never used. I'm talking about Steve Lukather...since EMG is One Alien Nation Under a Groove anyway, how about someone with some real crunch, Cap'n! ...some "Breakdown Dead Ahead" kinda licks will do. Hurricane Kobe? http://www.hillnews.com/open_secrets/072303.htm User: DACW
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Rajah: In thinking about the monster that is Carlock...Herington is interesting...but I imagined someon who could go blow by blos with Carlock and BURN THE MUTHA DOWN...someone oddly that Steely Dan has never used. I'm talking about Steve Lukather...since EMG is One Alien Nation Under a Groove anyway, how about someone with some real crunch, Cap'n! ...some "Breakdown Dead Ahead" kinda licks will do. Hurricane Kobe? http://www.hillnews.com/open_secrets/072303.htm User: BeerberIan
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Rajah; I think you may have a whole new theory on lead axe measurement ... Angle of repose is proportional to the inverse co-efficient of confidence minus the freedom factor ... maybe ?? Stand up and be measured vs hunch and be ridiculed User: Rajah of Erase
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Stee-stee-stee-ve-o (think Phil Collins) OK all fessed up now but tell me, what grade would you give the Paso show in comparison to Costa's 89%? Come to think of it now, the guitar guys in your band, Pretzel Logic, appearing at the Baked Potato in Universal City on 17 Auggust @ 8:30 PM put your monkey in your fez an c'mon out, have a hunching funkmeister picker like Herington named David Cowboy Hill and an upright but not uptight sky rider guy more like Walter named Mark Snarly Vincent. Now Mark kinda rides that electric cerulian blue edge, cutting and slicing and watching you bleed, while David hunches I think I mentioned, but really clinks, cleeks and, yeah, chops a'course, like boot-stompin bugs in the kitchen corner. McCrackenny, lad, I like it. And they BOTH can and do deliver the home run solo I would not lie to you. Snarly mugs you in an alley and Cowboy sneaks up on your campsite. OK it puts my hunch theory in question. User: SteveeDan (blissfully unaware of prior posts ...)
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Hi Rajah, W1P, Angel, et al -- OK. Rajah, I must admit that they were a little shakey at their kick-off gig in Costa Mesa, but by no means were (and by no means of torture would you EVER get me to admit that) they were bad. If a great concert is graded a 100%, then Costa Mesa gets at least an 89% which just bubbles under an "A" grade. They were a little bit tentative, but it was clear that there were some on-stage sound glitches that needed to be fixed, and actually, both Donald and Walter rolled with it quite well. It was a nice touch when Donald announced that it was in Southern California that they got their start. How's that for side-stepping the "fess-up" request Rajah? They had one of those Jumbo-Cam video crews and it's quite possible that there will be a compilation of multiple concerts from which a commercial DVD and video could be produced. At the very least, I could see Walter and Donald going over these concert video tapes much like a football coach to find the mistakes and the high points, to minimize the former and maximize the latter. Dean Parks came out and played the encore song and I think I saw his daughter Amanda shooting photos with a massively large zoom lens on her camera. Monsieur Pinque (W1P) - Well, all I can humbly say is that I hope the boss will still be able to sell out his venue (ha ha), but I guess we won't be seeing you that night. User: jjeff
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: No mention at all of the concert in Toronto, here. Not that it was great, but I would've thought a slight acknowledgement was in order if only for size. The CBC did a terrible job of coverage and MMM was even worse. I'm ashamed to say that Justin Timberlake played through a storm of water bottles and even said when it started, " Don't worry boys, it'll soon be over". The best surprise of the evening was The Flaming Lips, heretofore only known by me for their name and She Don't Use Jelly. They played Race For The Prize which made me want be there just for the vibe. It was Parliament/Funkadelic and The Beach Boys rolled into one. About 20 extras plus band members on stage dressed in various cartoon costumes( Bugs Bunny, Pink Panther,suns, fishes,tigers, etc.) mechanically blowing up helium-filled balls with confetti inside to weight them so that they wobbled across the top of the audience(450,000). These guys HAD to be on acid. Anyone have suggestions for a first buy on these guys? User: t
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Peter Cetera? Oh maaaaan... what a waste! That's ok angel, we luv ya anyway... Please sign below people... :-) User: angel
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Tones: So sorry to be the one bearing bad news, but here is the remainder of the Soundstage Lineup. No more TBA's. Darn! 8/7 #1006, "Lyle Lovett, Songs from 'Smile'featuring Randy Newman and Mark Isham" User: Rajah of Erase
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Stevee-baby, glad to see you're back. I appreciate your restraint and diplomacy in your comments on the Costa concert, I love these guys and if they went up there with harmonica and concertina (that's OUR next band bro) and played "He Aint Heavy", I'd probably poop myself in celebration. In fact, I'm fairly certain that I would do just that sans the control-top underwear that I always sport at their shows. Can't be too careful at my age. HOWEVER, (sorry for yelling), that wasn't "mellow" we heard at Costa, it was tentative and just plain shaky at times. Not Carlock or the horns or Walty, Baker a little maybe. With the singers and Jon it was an adventure. Donald was weak, the girls suffered because of it and your boy Jon Herington needs to either stand up straighter and wail off his heels or just friggin sit down and do the jazzman. Pick one. The hunching over killed me. He hunched. If we want hunching, we have Donald Fagen. The four times I'd seen them previously was well into the tour and they were on it, in front of it, all over it. I think we're both reasonable enough people to say, hey, they had a few problems opening night and I'm happy to leave it at that. (After ripping the guilty a new one, of course) So long as you fess up, Steven. I need to call you to get more Paso. User:
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Everyone please sign below: User: tones
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Jimbo - that's just too good of an idea to just let lay around. I think we should petition angel to petition whoever to petition the Dan's management to petition the Two into considering a Soundstage High-def remote broadcast or taping of the show of their choice. The Two wouldn't even have to go into the tv studio if they didn't want to. Or maybe do one of those Hawaii gigs so that we could all enjoy the view while they're playing... ----------------- Petition to Petition angel to Petition Whoever to Petition the Dan's Management to Petition the Two into Considering a Soundstage High-Def Remote Broadcast or Taping of the Show of Their Choice: Jimbo User: Jimbo
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: StAl- Hope you make a full recovery. Thanks for the e-bay info. I'll make a note. With the concert tour doing well, we should petition PBS to film one of their concerts for a Soundstage episode. If anybody knows someone who works on the show, ask him or her about it. The episode might even come out on Dvd. Whaddya Think? User: W1P
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Steeevee, you scheduled your BP show the same night as The Boss User: Scott Riegger
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Noticed that Reelin in the Years was dropped for My Old School in recent shows. Does the set list change from venue to venue? Taking my 8 and 5 year old boys. They like the older stuff. Me---they can throw all their songs in a hat and randomly select 20 and I'll be good. Then for the encore, they can select 20 more. User: Steveedan (back from the circus)
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Moody B. ... How about right here ? I am pages and pages behind on the guestbook, but, I have been to the first 2 shows (1) Costa Mesa, Wed. July 23, and (2) Paso Robles, Thurs. July 24. Here are these 2 setlists: (1) Costa Mesa Set I 1. Cubano Chant (non-Steely Dan) << 25 minute break >> Set II 1. The Steely Dan Show Encore: 10. FM This was their first show of the tour. They played a little bit on the mellow side. As a result, the song that really stood out for me was Things I Miss The Most. As a point of clarification, I would like to say here that there is virtually nothing that this band could do that would make me feel that they were NOT playing well. I want to make that distinction. Here's why ... At Paso Robles, ... on the very next evening, ... they were a different band. They played with a lot more energy and confidence. It was simply a great show. Also, due to the Orange County noise issues (i.e.; complaints from the neighborhood at the Pacific Amphitheatre in Costa Mesa) the band had a 10 PM curfew. There was supression from without, which was a mite unfortunate. As it was the band played from 8 PM to roughly 10:15 PM. (2) Paso Robles - The Soundcheck songs: After the soundcheck I was walking around in the Paso Robles fair and I spotted Jon Herington and his guitar tech (who was given a large stuffed Teddy Bear at the Costa Mesa concert the night before). I walked up to them and introduced myself. Jon was extremely nice and approachable. I complimented him on the previous night's performance and then I sort of embarassed the guitar tech by saying to him that I was glad he got his Teddy Bear. And to further the cause, I gave Jon one of my business cards from the Pretzel Logic Band ... who knows what became of that ... "The Concert" Set I 1. Cubano Chant (non-Steely Dan) << 25 minute break >> Set II 1. The Steely Dan Show Encore - 10. My Old School Drummer Keith Carlock was the stand-out musician of both of these concerts. Keith is simply amazing. He played the best drum solos (Josie) of all of the tours since 1993 (in my opinion of course). Walt Weiskopf and Cornelius Bumpus played their saxes great, Michael Leonhart on trumpet, and Jim Pugh on trombone filled out the horn section. They were all great. The backing singers (two-thirds of them) were back ... Carolyn Leonhart, Cynthia Calhoun, and a new singer Cindy Lysell (I'm not sure if I got her last name right) ... were fun to watch of course. Tom Barney on bass, Ted Baker on keyboards, Jon Herington and Walter on guitars ... and Donald F. of course. I can't wait to see them in Santa Barbara, and back in Hollywood, ... BRING YOUR FEZ ... and that monkey in your soul ... User: moody bastard
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Does anyone know wher I can find set lists for the current tour? Thanks! User: Rajah of Erase
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Yeah, I don't see how Herington or anyone would or should try to mimick the old guitar licks. A live performance should re-interpret the songs, even if ever so subtly, in the best tradition of the jazz ethic. Heck, even a good tribute band doesn't try to knock out Jay Graydon's ride on "Peg". Leave that to Jay Graydon, which, by the way, he did on one night at the Whisky here in LA when he got up with the Dr. Wu tribute band last year. He played it perfectly. He did say it took him a few days to remember it but then the fingers took over and I mean it was right off the record. OK you guys, I have high hopes for tonight's show being retooled after four days off and all our comments herein. Somebody post that list when you get home tonight please. User: Howard
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Gina - ssshhh! Howard User:
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Armadillo - I've been around that block waiting on green User: countermoon
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: we are on our way to Portland this morning 6 hour drive and soooooooo worth it, hope for new EMG songs for their first time live- User:
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: I knew I should have ignored that post by Ray and gotten some sleep. My judgement is off and I've been baited. I'm no sq or a g. Just someone who wants some answers. User: To Public Enemy
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: I was too pooped to post earlier. Could not think straight still don't know if I am -- cause I still need a few more winks. Tried twisting numbers and looked west, down by the river and in the ivory for you but it was a wild goose chase. I'm hungry now and need a nosh. User: Gina
| Month: 7
| Day: 1 Message: Yes ... fingers crossed for St. Al's swift recovery. Speak of fingers ... saw a Charlie Hunter dvd the other day, live in Buffalo, the Tralf. Howard, Hutch ... an 8-string guitar, mr Hunter taking care of both bass and guitarparts ... jaws dropping to basement level when you watch him play this specially for him designed & developed instrument. It's just amazing! Banyan Tree 8-string Bow, User: tzg
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| Day: 1 Message: Steely Dan is touring somewhere on our planet. The "space age" is redeemed. BIG points with the UFOP. Nice. | Return To Archive Index |
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Paolo- Don't rely on amateurs like Clas and DACW for important matters of music theory, after all, questions such as yours affect the outcome of life itself!
Remember, I am a Doctor, and I am better than most human beings:
1)They call it C9 rather than C2 because a ninth chord belongs in the dominant 7th family of chords- which means that a 9th chord has to have a Root, a major, 3rd, a fifth, a flatted 7th, and a 9th. C-E-G-Bb-D
If you omit the flatted 7th, then you could call it a an add2 or add9 chord, referred to around here as the Mu Chord (as if SD invented it- it had already been used by Hindemith and Hanson in the 1930s!).
2)They call it C7 so you know it's short for C dominant 7th, an unstable chord which is usually resolved up a 4th to some type of F chord.
3)13th chords also belong to the dominant 7th family of chords, hence they have Root, Maj3rd, 5th, b7, 9th, 11th and 13th.
However, most pianists omit the 11th in pop music and jazz.
On guitar, you have to omit the 11th because you've got 7 notes and only 6 strings. They usually omit the 9th too.
Authoritatively Yours,
Dr. Warren K.
Molly..as always
Jazz..repose not as in reprise..Frank
"bad luck Blues"
'my only love' Roxy music
Three lovely ladies for sure.
is restored!
Turn That Heartbeat Over Again
King of the World
Monkey in Your Soul
Throw Back the Little Ones
The Royal Scam
Josie
Third World Man
West of Hollywood
Everything Must Go
My rationale for listening to EMG in reverse order sometimes is twofold:
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refuse to break their two month vacation to come back and help settle this mess. They won't be back till late September. In other words, the fucking GOP is holding Pittsburgh, and possibly California hostage.
Whose feathers are ruffling at the thought of next week's concert!
- Does Heidi Fleiss floss?
Hey, Lt. Gov. Cruz "That Makes me Danny DeVito" Bustamante is quick and looks suspiciously like super Belgian sleuth Hercule Poirot...Arnold is a pumped up populist...and Larry Flynt is a "compassionate pornographer"...looks like a choice to me!!!!!!
Hey, If you Calis want OUR Governor Rick Perry (R), ...........take him please!!!!!!!!!!!!!...and our congress - they're hiding out somewhere in New Mexico!! while we drown in red ink and I desparately try to save my graduate students...
T - just remember blinded by partisanship = believing in things that you don't understand...then you suffer...Superstition ain't the way...all put on those Fagen/Ray Carles/Stevie sunglasses on cue!
Any Randy Newman fans out there!!!!!!?? - check out Monk on the USA Network tonight. Randy has written a new theme song for the show, about a supersleuth, who has beaucoup de neruoses, hypochondria, and just plain disturbed by the details, attention to which solves the cases. I've seen the show a couple of times - good stuff. Tony Shaloub is a superb character actor. The song (my favorite part) is called "It's a Jungle Out There" and is another Randy Newman classic.
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Ouch - you poor puppy......
Court dates. Enormous stress. No vacation 'till at September.....or later.......I'm tweaked like a 3-day zit and I'm ready to pop. Kelp!
Or whatevah!
We're doing new material on our next album, currently titled, "Hide 'n Sleep". And it's funky.
I will keep you all posted, and hopefully, some of you can show up.
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to gaslighting your boss into believing that the world will end on 8/21/03
(You might want to have her sign a legal document that allows you to take
a paid vacation until the world ends).
lucked into a rare front row center chair (neck still hurts) and was able to speak with her briefly after the show (an autograped ticket was nice as well) Been ten years since she played here supporting 99.9F
could make for a very musical week with the Dan on the 19th
is there a song or two on the new DAN tour where the band stops on a dime
with a quiet little interlude and then a nanno second later jumps back in?
went to check my comments from the Raliegh show but the 2000 archives have a gap from July 23 to Aug 1 - any conspiracy theorists here?
haven't found that software yet
I did a little research and may go with the M-Box - seems like the logical way for a hack like me to work. have to balance that out with my finacial outlays for three week Dan/out west mountain/desert experience.
A box can always wait.
Fla Dave? YGK? Hutch?
Since when NOT i wonder :-)
It's in the vibes the vibes the vibes.
Banyan Tree Bow,
G.
Blues Beach
The Things I Miss the Most
Slang of Ages
The Green Room
Godwhacker
Lunch with Gina
Pixleen
Do it Again
Rikki Don't Lose that Number
Green Earrings
I Got the News
Josie
Peg
Time out of Mind
What a Shame about Me
pb
http://pablobrazil.com
http://www.granatino.com/sdresource/03tour.htm
John
On The Two Against Nature cd the word "crew" appears in three consecutive songs... What a Shame About Me, Two Against Nature and Janie Runaway.
On EMG the word "flash" appears in three consecutive songs... Green Book, Pixeleen and Lunch With Gina.
One of the key features of the mu major chord is the dissonance that occurs between notes that are close together. It is this dissonance that, when balanced with the other more consonant notes, gives the chord something of an "edge" or a "bite". This dissonance usually occurs between the 2nd and 3rd of the chord (in the example above, the dissonance occurs between the notes A and B).
Today's Wish Set List (they're getting closer):
Pixeleen
Black Cow
Lunch with Gina
Your Gold Teeth II
Home at Last
Caves of Altamira
Second Arrangement
I Got the News
Green Book
Any World
Things I Miss the Most
Dr. Wu
Razor Boy
Turn That Heartbeat Over Again
Here at the Western Word
Everything Must Go
FM
Dr. Wu
Your Gold Teeth I and II
Hatian Divorce
Only a Fool Would Say That
Almost Gothic
Any Major Dude
Caves
Gaucho
I Got The News
Pretzel Logic
Here At The Western World
Godwhacker
West of Hollywood
Time Out Of Mind
Maxine
Pixaleen
Janie
Don't Take Me Alive
Glamour Profession
Anyone else hear what I just heard this morning? The lyrics to Pixelene read "gun and tambourine" but it sounds like DF is singing "bomb and tambourine". If so, it's not the first time -- first one that I can think of is that Time Out Of Mind's printed lyrics say "mystical stone" and Fagen sings "mystical sphere".
While thankful that I'll again have the chance to see Steely Dan live again next week, there are always the personal favorites that one would like to hear in concert. Keeping in mind my recent criticism wherein I stated there's simply not enough new material in the live set on this tour thus far, here is some "wishful thinking" fodder concerning the old(er) material (some of which have been heard live before, others not):
2. "The Nightfly"
3. "Night By Night"
4. "Gaucho"
5. "Two Against Nature"
6. "Junkie Girl"
7. "I Got The News"
8. "The Fez"
9. "Your Gold Teeth II"
10. "Lucky Henry"
11. "Here at the Western World"
12. "On The Dunes"
13. "Throw Back the Little Ones"
- Neil Young, 'Vampire Blues'
NIGHTFLY**@aol.com
Love is like
A shooting star
Makes no difference
Who you are
Summers change
But the world is the same
Tangled shadows in a fog
Makes the one you care for
Come out wrong
You're going to learn
All the story of love
And I never even asked for love
From the stars down here
Up to my birth above
Seasons change
But the world is the same
Pablo do Brasilia
i don't even know where to begin, it's overhwelming, really
dammit!
as someone posted, if the concert was at the Berklee Performance Center (be quiet Ed Beatty, and burn those pics!) or Symphony Hall, well, of course, there would not be dancing in the aisles - but it's an outdoor seating with a covering over it at Tweeter and if you have lawn seats, well, it's a given you are groovin'
Any body heading out that way/have a spare chopper.....the only tour in 3 years and that b/witch has to play it by the book.
happy fucking summer indeed......
- Dallas
- Black Cow
- Caves Of Altimira
- Sign In Stranger
- Your Gold Teeth I & II
- Everyone's Gone To The Movies
- Night By Night
- Any Major Dude
- Razor Boy
- West Of Hollywood
- King Of The World
- Third World Man
- Gaucho
- Hat Too Flat
- Godwhacker
- Greenroom
Chain Lightning
Pretzel Logic
Caves (finally on this tour)
Cousin Dupree (this song helped garner the Grammy they received AFTER the tour was six months over. BRING IT ON!)
Lunch w/Gina
Deacon Blues
Brooklyn
Monkey in your Soul (Talk about getting white folk out of their seats)
kulee baba
jack of speed
everything you did
show biz kids
glam profession
greenflower st
any world
centuries end
godwhacker
dr wu
hat too flat
neg girl
pretzel logic
here at the western world
razor boy
florida room
your gold teeth
green book
time out of mind
lucky henry
i got the news
2 against nature
pixeleen
the nightfly
Sometimes jail or war (WWII or Cold War or War on Terrorism) are the only way to change deviant behavior that not only threatens the rights of people but their lives...as time goes on these conflict have become more complex, 3-dimensional with integration of military conflict, spying, and negotiation...
Just getting the reports of the Costa Mesa showàPHEW sounds like it was a really long show.
3d let me know how the gorge show goesà.
Would appreciate MORE colouràplease
All my favourite people IÆm counting on you for it..
Late r
Black Friday
Boston Rag
Your Gold Teeth
Only a Fool Would Say That
Kings (I'm in there)
Show Biz Kids
My Old School
Everyone's Gone to the Movies (great sing-a-long song)
I got the News
Aja
Time out of Mind
Hey 19
Janie Runaway
Jack of Speed
Blues Beach
Lunch with Gina
Everything Must Go
Pretzel Logic
FM
Glamour Profession
how bout them apples
Aja
I don't know about you guyz but I really dig a lot of the solos - not just rehashed ideas from the 70s...super use of the Wurly throughout the whole album
- Josie
- Hey 19
- Babylon Sisters
- Kid Charlemagne
- Do It Again
- My Old School
- Reelin' In The Years
www.steelydan.com
The reason I mention this is (a) the subconscious subtext (maybe I should ask Lizzie) and (b) I'm particularly sensitive to changes from SD album to SD album...a few of my old school friends thought all their stuff sounds alike
What makes TvN different is the merging of 50s cool jazz and tuens right out of 50s TV ads over a Stax rhythm section...love the rest except for Cousin Dupree, which is at least funny
Pablo - as far as I know, my jmdl email should still work (howard at jmdl dot com). I'm still receiving messages on it (90% spam though).
an environmentalist musical, apparently. I agree totally and completely with the idea and motivation. But this scares me. He just managed "Are You Passionate?" in 2002, best o'Neil since the 80s. No one pulls off "rock musicals", not even Pete Townshend. They're always ridiculous. And forced. And pretentious.
http://www.steelydan.com/Images/2k/europe/classo2k.jpeg
http://www.steelydan.com/Images/2k/europe/goodbye2.jpeg
http://www.steelydan.com/Images/2k/us/airport.jpeg
(In case you are curious, I am a jmdl.com featured musician; I hope you will enjoy a couple of my songs, especially "Story of Life" and "Get the Look", which may be found here:)
http://www.pablobrazil.com/listenstore.html
Take care wherever you are, and thanks again for the excellent mu major explication, I'll let you know how it goes! you da (dan) man,
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The Boston Danfest August 16, 2003
350 North Main Street
Mansfield, MA
(508) 339-1800
Special Guests: Still waiting on confirmation but weÆre hoping 2 special guests will attend this years Danfest. YouÆve laughed at their movies and they are major Dan fans. They are currently in post-production with their latest project so they are trying to work the Danfest into their schedule.
Tweeter Center parking lot
With the Tweeter Center being about a mile from DevonÆs Place, we would like to start a caravan of cars from DevonÆs Place to the Tweeter Center parking lot.
Lodging
60 Forbes Boulevard
Mansfield MA 02049
Toll free: 800.733.7663
Voice: 508.339.2323
Fax: 508.337.6733
Mark Drinan
Bill Griffin
I agree with Rajah of Erase...You're really a God(Whacker)damn lucky bastard Bob Sheppard and we hope that you treat her with respect. She's really a Steely Dan Angel. Hope you're not the reason why he didn't join the tour...Slang You!!!
he's already married.
lp - ROFLMAO! that's the best remark posted today....heheheheheh
If we all expect to have everyone sit down and behave themselves at a jazz expeirrence and absorb the intricacies of the performance without background noise and commotion, then SD concerts should be taken inside to smaller venues with better acoustics fitting for the $100 tickets...Orchestral and fine arts settings like Carnegie, Beacon, Cameron Indoor, University of Texas Performing Arts Center...where the trombone and Rhodes would permeate the guilded wood...I just don't anticipate any time soon that due to free market issues...For example, James Taylor at Beacon and on the road plays smaller places focussing largely on his latest...
Anyway, looking forward to Dallas...wisely not scheduled for this month...the FURNACE is ON here now, baby, after "cool and rainy" weather until last week...
Aja
I'm the lucky one
10) got a script high as a kite, I could hole out here all night
9) the view ....the cobalt blue sky....
8) things I miss the most - my arm my shoulder,
one minute without pain
7) babe choir? were there three of them or four?...
6) the cuervo gold the demoral stupor,
make tonight a bearible thing
5) tonight when I face the mosh pit
my shoulder they hit and I will whine...
4) swear I saw Jive Miguel and those sczechwann dumplings backstage
3) up on the hill, if I ever make it there,
my god I swear...
2) please don't slang me, it might hurt
1) perk ah DAN
diane
Steely Dan: 'Everything Must Go'
Familiar Sound, Subtle Differences on Special in Duo's Latest CD
Yeah, I go with calling out titles. Lunch with Gina!!!! ;-)
yes the whisper moment at Red Rocks - I've done it as well
reminds me of Aussie giving me the premier tour in the basement of Grand Central Station showing me the transmission of sound up the walls to the other corners - too neat (almost made me forget the doublemint twins)
wish I was there! glad to hear your vacation was great
I watched plush for the first time in a long long time
felt let down compared to the true concert experience
and that is not big enough a venue for that live feel
let's decide which show they should tape (new poll)
and add Babylon Sisters - gee, maybe I'll try again
11) arrange a sitdown lunch with Gina for our Amsterdam contingent
10) Love Bob and Company will ride over and work out all the new EMG tunes not done on the tour
9) a 2003 tour dvd - The Gorge would have been great - demand a BLues Beach at Jones Beach
8) kidnap the road gear ala "Don't Take Me Alive", load it on the Queen Mary
7) care packages of hats and hooters
6) we'll send the tour booking agent over and include a body bag and a few torture devices
5) get Alexander Haig to run an amphibious invansion much like the one planned for Cleveland ala R&R HoF
4) free round of pints
3) Hugh McCracken the scottish lad can do a solo pub tour with the dan piped in on a satelite remote
2) get the dna off of that Ebay $260 coke can and clone don and walt
and drum roll please
1) send Vicki Cave over as the babe contingent - raise your forks boys
Dear Diane-cubed: I can tell you're a very high-spirited philly and a great Danfan, blessings on you my sister but I was dissapointed by Donald's voice let me say for the billionth time, I believe it to be shrinking in range and fading with age in the live setting of an outdoor venue, god I hate it outdoors, it's so difficult to find your time, pitch and tone.
Jimbo
tones
snakehips
Rajah of Erase
duncan
In 1974, guitarist Jeff Baxter and drummer Jim Hodder left Steely Dan. Baxter joined the Doobie Brothers and Hodder produced and did session work.
(psssst... sign below people... ;-)
like.......
Hey, if no one actually ever *used* OR was caught using OR had a history of ever using OR was plotting to use OR were hiding from Inspectors OR had mass graves of hundreds of thousands of rock artisits (now that's a start!) in their backyard, then confiscating OBVIOUSLY JOKE Party BADGES of MASS DESTRUCTION (BMD) reeks of Clear FACISM!!!!! Where's Howard Dean when ya really need him?!! ...even the Dixie Chicks are still letting folks backstage pass or no pass or passed out - hell I got laid by the short, fat one!!
THE MUSIC IS fR%$^&*& INCREDIBLE- BETTER THAN EVER!!!!!!!!!!
AS RUMORS FLY THIS MAY BE THE LAST SD TOUR, MAKE DAMN SURE YOU GO. YOU MUST GO......AS EVERYONE MUST GO-- MAKE YOUR FRIENDS BUY TICKETS AND GO TOO
SOME PEOPLE SEE TOOOOO MANY CONCERTS AND ARE TOOOO PICKY, IF THIS IS YOU WE FEEL BAD YOU GET TO SEE SO MANY CONCERTS AND WE LIVE TOOOOO FAR AWAY FROM A VENUE TO SEE MUCH MORE THAN 1 OR 2 CONCERTS PER YEAR.
PUT THE NEW ALBUM/CD ON YOUR SYSTEM AND TURN IT UP LOUD SO THE WORLD CAN HEAR IT.
AND AT THE SHOW---AT LEAST GIVE A STANDING OVATION FOR EACH SONG IF THE CROWD AROUND YOU DOES NOT, DO WHAT I DID IN PORTLAND AT THE KELLAR-
STAND UP LIKE A CHEERLAEDER AND TRY AND GET EVERYOME TO GIVE AN OVATION--- SO AT LEAST STEELY DAN KNOWS YOU LIKE THE SHOW OR THEY MAY START CANCELING SHOWS WITH LOWER TICKET SALES
OR LIKE I DID, MAKE A SIGN AND TAKE IT TO THE CONCERT TO SHOW THE BAND YOU CARE, I WAS THE ONLY ONE IN PORTLAND WITH SIGNS, THEY READ- "WE LOVE STEELY DAN", & "THANK YOU", ALL OF THE BAND MEMBERS SAW THEM AND MADE EYE CONTACT WITH ME WITH A THANKING LOOK,, AND EVEN BOTH WALT AND DON THANKED ME OVER THE SOUNDSYSTEM, WALT LOOKED RIGHT AT ME AND SAID "THANK YOU VERY MUCH" DON LOOKED RIGHT AT ME AND SAID "THANK YOU" AND LATER DON SAID LOOKING RIGHT AT ME "NICE GREEN SIGNS" OVER THE SOUNDSYSTEM
Warmest regards to all,
Danorak.
thanks for all the color on the Gorge show. Having not been there, the photos (and I've seen one bootlegged concert) look fantastic. The Columbia River basin wasn't formed primarily by glaciers as I understand it, it was an area that was under a rotating mantle hotspot that now resides in Yellowstone. The Columbia river basalts were more readily eroded then the invasive host rock and have subsequently been eroded away more leaving the spectacular canyons and the Columbia River valley.
Walter said, ôWeÆve been playing here for a few years now, and itÆs always the best stop on the tour, every time we come here.ö How could he not feel that way? Forget all the geological wonders and look at the fans. People come from all over the world to go to concerts at the Gorge and they are all ecstatic to be there. The energyà well, nuff said.
There are many more details. I felt like I spent half my time there talking to security, and when I got back to the campground, there were new issues to be sorted out. I didnÆt get to sit down until 2a.m. But IÆm not complaining, or if I am, it means nothing. It was a wonderful show; just ask the people who came thousands of miles to be there.
diane
diane
Sue and Dave have a big old Labrador, black and kinda husky, named Midnight (I always call her ôSatanö and she gives me dirty looks). Midnight has a habit of laying down, just exhausted, on the black linoleum kitchen floor behind whoever is standing there. Now, I had brought along party treatsùlittle prescription bottles filled with Skittles or Starburst jelly beans, with a label that read:
1-800-youÆreinhell
RX#2205011048 Dr. Wu
FOR: BROTHER, Scurvy and SISTER, Babylon
Take a whole bunch of these for The Blues. Discontinue if the world comes to an end. Do not take if operating shopping carts.
ILLEGALFUNXETINE 1000mg 12.00 REFILLS
I could tell you more, but youÆd have to offer me a six-figure book contract to include all the details, which are many and sordid.
diane
People, please, if you are sitting forward, DO NOT GET UP AND DANCE THROUGH THE ENTIRE FUCKING SHOW. All was well when we first sat down, but then TWO ASSHOLES came in and got right in front of me and my seatmate, blocking our views of Don and Walt (or, The Principals, as they refer to themselves these days). Dumb fucking assholes, bad dancers, self-absorbed idiots who refused to sit down even when people behind them started yelling. I couldnÆt see a thing.
love and kisses
diane
In The Know,
party. I'm on the Funk Filharmonik mailing list and just recieved this
today! Anyone have any more info on this event......I'm there!!!
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PORTLAND SPOILER REPORT ADD ON FROM BELOW POST
SOME of the funnest and finest moments of the Portland Oregon Show was
"Don't Take Me Alive" when the verse comes around to "well I shot my old man back in OREGON, don't take me alive"
THE HOUSE WENT WILD each time the verse came around and Donald sang it like it was special to be singing it in Oregon!!!!!!!!
the rest is left up to yout imagination.................
...Love is like two dreamers dreaming, the exact same dream... -Michael Franks
Anyone got any idea on what happened to Ms. Victoria Cave? On why she didn't join these tour and the subsequent Everything Must Go album. I believe she is a great back-up singer as was proven by 2vN, remember Gaslighting Abbie?. I hope someone can share a light on the matter. Will greatly appreciate it. Thanks
FIRST OFF- THANK YOU TO THE WHOLE STEELY DAN BAND FOR SUCH A WONDERFUL SPECIAL NIGHT IN PORTLAND!!!!!!!!!!
You are like "THE FINEST RED WINE", you get better and better and better and better........
The cheering was loud, many standing ovations and happy fun crowd of fans!!
And some great enthusiastic fans were in attendance.
We can only hope the fans at your upcoming show will be "up and cheering" like the fans in Portland, as it pumps the band members when they see everyone having soooo much fun enjoying the concert.
Each and every band member put out the finest performance. The new EMG songs were EPIC, the older "new to this tour songs" were superb, the songs we always desire to hear were perfect.
When "the girls" wailed out the "babylon sisters, shake it" they
"put it down",,, it shook the house like it always does and it is always so fun to see someone at their first steely dan show hear this amazing song for their first time, as we took two dear friends to this as their 1st Steely Dan show!!!
If you do not have tickets to the show coming to your area, would advise to purchase very soon!!!!
have a shredding day, mike
1. Cubano Chant
2. Aja
3. Time Out Of Mind
4. Godwacker
5. The Caves Of Altamira
6. Blues Beach
7. Babylon Sisters
8. Slang Of Ages
9. Peg
10. Home At Last
Set II
2. Janie Runaway
3. Hey Nineteen
4. Haitian Divorce
5. Things I Miss The Most
6. Parker's Band (girls sing lead- never guess who sings backup)
7. Josie (shake the house Carlock drum solo)
8. Kid Charlemagne
9. Don't Take Me Alive
10. My Old School
11. FM
On the basis of that, I guess I've got to eat Humble Pie recordings and apologize to the sight-challenged, weight-challenged, follicle-challenged dude.
DACW- Just cause they say it's Ellingtonian in an interview, doesn't mean it's going to sound like it to someone who didn't read said interview.
steviedan- That comment wasn't aimed at you, but your paranoia has condemned you as surely as Sadako's curse... 7 days...
Hey Mu ;-)
a place we know so well
that cool jazz groove approach
we copped as darkness fell
my eyes nailed to the stage with a capable cast
the sirens are calling I'm tied to the mast
a labor of love endeavor
jammin at the gorge is forever
he's still going to the Dan
he's shoulder's mighty hurt
maybe some percodan
he walks rather nimble but still makes the show
his m.o. to hell with, everything must go
a little pain but he'll recover
jammin at the gorge in the summer
the sun's set the lights up
the band shifts God help me
their playing my fav
through crowd noise
estatic I'm hearing
it wave upon wave
let's hope the meds will last
another tanker babe
bab sister what a blast
I'm about to go pogo
when it all wears off
overwelmed by carlock
and also Weiskopf
in my mind but I know better
an evening at the gorge lasts forever
Things I Miss even better
an evening at the gorge lasts forever
~: Great stuff...I'm cracking my knuckles - don't konw what's left in the tank. Regarding your theory re: EMG - we've hit sever financial times thanks to the pork barreling legislature now cowering at the Marriott in Albuquerque and Gov. Rick Perry, who cut education between legislative sessions. The Univ. President asked for a Chinese takeout Plan in preparation of hard times. In column A tell me what real cuts you'd make (10% cut predicted). In Column B, if the money is available, what are the positions and resources that should be bolstered...a sneaky way of establishing priorities. Our Department arrived at a food plan in March, but ran into problems at the College level, where the ultra-left fantasy-land loonies wanted to "cheat" instead of following direction. Our Dept. Head went along (i.e., caved). Well, due to dome decent work, the University level cuts were 1 %, but Prez said, give me back 8% from Column A and we'll go with Column B back at ya. Well, since our whole College was caught cheating, moving money around and raising fees at a % that raised red flags - we lost way more than others...At the Department level, financial aid for graduate students were targeted...and it appeared that I would lose one whose I-20 would run out and would be forced back overseas...after raising a posse and a few e-mails, Miss Fugazi got me some "face time"...now after weeks of on the edge, a reasonable compromise short and long term has been reached and I'm throwing problem solving ideas at the boss...
Let us meet the bastards, yadda...
I move to dissolve whatever tension
In a school of starved Pirhanas
But let's switch off all the fights
And light up all the Zippos
As they get on with the show
Hey, let's throw another danfest
Everyone must go
Now our selfless dream is shattered
Show the world our mighty hidey-ho face
As we gulpin' down the liquor
But it's sweet up at the Gorge
And when Bumpus starts a blowin'
And the Boys set up the show
Us we're putting on a danfest
Everyone must go
But in Portland we got a lot
The sounds, the beer, some food and a t-shirt
Back-row tickets -- this the part you use "lucky" twice
Wouldn't once suffice?
But it's grown and caught the zipper
Frankly I could use a lift and ride home
In a rescue helicopter
And if Dave from Alabama
Wants to get in on the action
With his digicam in tow
While we throw another Danfest
Everything must go
Guess it's time our boys go cookin'
Think about the various drugs not taken
In the end we overlook 'em
And if somewhere on the lawn
We got a few good spliffs in
No one's ever gonna know
'Cause we're doin' it at Danfest
Everything must go
tones
snakehips
Rajah of Erase
Petition to Petition angel to Petition Whoever to Petition the Dan's Management to Petition the Two into Considering a Soundstage High-Def Remote Broadcast or Taping of the Show of Their Choice:
tones
snakehips
heheheheheh
this is where I get off
checking online with fanatic fanzine, it's obscene, look
I tango down to our nightly soundcheck
I still feel some stagefright
our backup singer looks like Miss Badu
and the others' out of sight
I feel an urge to log on
St Al's soul picnic in pastel colors
my God, my movements, this clan sees all
flash ahead to some adoration
posting fem fatale in my room
guess I'm dreaming of steely woman, it's obscene look
what a read it's a banyan forest
it's obscene, look
I'd like to sample her mind
I'm thinking hottie 10.0, it's obscene look
I like to tour I love the music
and after hours there's vice
the seamless seque from fun to frenzy
sweet young thing to entice
I'm so in love with this summer touring
this crazy stint of desire
we play our hearts out along the way
the encore, then after, raging desire
she's oh so cute and a little younger
she's got the mood and I'm mute
it's kind of scary to dig this life, it's obscene look
Atuomatic is simply a group of gripping, eclectic songs. Murmur or Life's Rich Pagegant are more original and Document more immediate...Out of Time twists old tricks a bit more than Automatic...but any album with "Man on the Moon" has to be pretty good...What's the frequency, Clas?
You're not getting laid
And I've been told from the sanes in this place
That you're in altered state
Pour beer on your sorrows for here's the deal
Tomorrow's for squirrels -- tonight's for seals
Do you hear me singing Aja
And show you how it's done
During Pixeleen?
If you threw up through Mister Sam
Then I'll make you junkies hurl
Next time you book me, it's You're No Good
Roll with it, Baby and Knock On Wood
Sue me if I'm singing Aja
I'll show you what I learned
Am I ruining the rest of your night so far?
Why split halfway in between?
You oughta know
Hey -- where'd you go?
Was it something that I sang?
Or something you was drinking
When we opened up our set?
Let me make a right baby -- never mind Don
There's this amazing little place I know called "Al-Anon"
In a traveling musical show
yes I'd love to tour the west coast
roll out Everything Must Go
yes I'm dying to plays some tunes in open air
ain't no better venue than county fair
those days turn into nights
doing LA on a dare, oh yeah
so we snagged it for a date
Yes, I'd never played in Tahoe
and the acoustics sure were great
as the crowd it gathered, on that hill
we laid out all our wares from buildings brill
those days they last forever
but over a long time ago, oh yeah
somewhere on the west coast
it felt rejunivating
a thing I miss the most
these days go on forever
not ready to give up that ghost, oh yeah
acting like he's the coolest thing on the planet. I'm sure my favorite Stone, Charlie, had to be embarrassed by that jerk. One question though, were the audience booing him? God, I hope so. Will this concert be released on DVD or Cd? That would make a great release. Also, will it ever show on VH1 even though the station is now more like E! than a regular music station?
John Hiatt & The Goners along with The Robert Cray Band.
to watch John dance (Hehehe...) The man has a sense of humor, that's
what I've always liked about him. The Goners are of course Sonny Landreth,
Dave Ransom, and Ken Blevins. Collectively, they rock! If you have the
chance to catch them this summer don't hesitate to do so, you won't be
disappointed.
I've slowed down time, nearly stopped it cold." (John Hiatt)
I guess the updates of the setlists for the currents tour starts to fade away. I hope someone could be kind enough to share their experiences regarding the tour aside from Paso Robles and Tahoe. Will greatly appreciate it guys! Thanks
That show looks so good and is perfect for Donald and Walter. I caught a bit of Michael McDonald's show yesterday and he looked pretty good in HD with a black jacket and his white hair. As I watched, Memphis Blues Again, kept going through my mind..... :-)
8/14 #1007, "Chris Isaak & Raul Malo"
8/21 #1008, "Trace Adkins and Travis Tritt"
8/28 #1009, "Tori Amos"
9/4 #1010, "The Last DJ"
9/11 #1011, "John Hiatt/Dar Williams/Robinella and the CCstringband"
9/18 #1012, "Wilco with Sonic Youth"
10/9 #1013, "Peter Cetera with Amy Grant"
tones
2. Aja
3. Time Out Of Mind
4. Godwacker
5. The Caves Of Altamira
6. The Last Mall
7. Do It Again
8. Slang Of Ages (Walter sings lead, with band introductions)
9. Peg
10. Reelin' In The Years (AIA version)
2. Janie Runaway (into)
3. Hey Nineteen
4. Haitian Divorce (Walter sings lead)
5. Things I Miss The Most
6. Parker's Band (girls sing lead)
7. Josie (great Carlock drum solo)
8. Kid Charlemagne
9. Don't Take Me Alive
1. Home At Last
2. Blues Beach
3. Godwacker
4. Janie Runaway into
5. Hey Nineteen
6. Haitian Divorce
7. Kid Charlemagne
8. Slang Of Ages (with band introductions)
2. Aja
3. Time Out Of Mind
4. Godwacker
5. The Caves Of Altamira
6. Blues Beach
7. Do It Again
8. Slang Of Ages (Walter sings lead, with band introductions)
9. Peg
10. Home At Last
2. Janie Runaway (into)
3. Hey Nineteen
4. Haitian Divorce (Walter sings lead)
5. Things I Miss The Most
6. Parker's Band (girls sing lead)
7. Josie (again, amazing Carlock drum solo)
8. Kid Charlemagne
9. Don't Take Me Alive
11. FM
Oh ... SO THE SHAMLESS PLUGGING CONTINUES ...
PRETZEL LOGIC PLAYS THE BAKED POTATO IN HOLLYWOOD, CALIFORNIA ON
SUNDAY AUGUST 17TH, 2003 8:30 PM.
SteveeDan (the Steely Dan traveling man ...)
SRA - fair enough. A couple of note for note solos would be OK I guess, but it's still quite a tall order. I think I would wimp out if I was the tour guitarist, and do my own thing!
will report whr=en we get back on saturday evening!!!
thank you sd for touring!!!
Howard, i visited the Joni Mitchell discussion list.
And ofcourse browsed thru the Staff page :-)
Emiel van Egdom will arrange and produce her "Circle Game" for me, vocals and guitar only, the 4th edition of our compilation CD ... I know everyone's into the tour now, still it can't hurt to ask anyone handy with vocal chords and/or an instrument to please participate.
Because it's fun, tradition and something unique seen in the light of assembling fans from all over your country (U.S) as well as abroad.
G.