JW -- nice photo! Happy New Year. Blink-182 on Dick Clark followed by some shots of Culture Club and Will Smith from past years. Oh well, at least I got to see the Spirit 84 "I Got a line on You" with Skunk Baxter and a cast of 1000s. Anybody know the story behind this one?
Happy New Year one and all!
Adam Blue -- Welcome! Are you signed up for the Official SD newsletter? Don't miss out if you aren't already.
Floridavid -- Sorry to hear about your Father-in-law. Prayers and condolences are with you.
flambe' -- Thank you.
Duncan -- Glad to hear you found your cats, now take good care of them. If they aren't spayed and/or neutered yet, please do so soon.
Happy New Year!
Dragon
Happy New Year
I am (I think) first to officially post in a N=ew Year - So everyone - hope it is better than the last one - health, wealth and hapiness, and all that jazz
You'd never gues that I had been drinking - !!?!>>!?
Peace
Al
StAl--April Danfest in Sandy Eggo with the Damned?!? If that should indeed come to pass, I am so completely and totally there.
/the Mam'zelle
Wishing all of the dandom and rockin' suburbs the most joyous of New Years!...I'm tasting the wind this evening and checking with mid and upper atmospheric signatures for the preface of an unusual evenr in the heart of Texas: SNOW?! Rare below Waco...uppper atmospherie is ripe and the low wil swing through tomorrow as the train picks up steam. Jackson, Birmingham, and Atlanta might be in for more than a dusting as Gulf air will be sucked in before the low. It remains to be seen whether this thing then curves north sliding by the east coast and heads for DC and NYC by the 3rd or so...We may not get much if at all, but...
Aus: You can count on me in '05 to keep my fingers on the Medline, NSF, and NOAA, my feet on the ground and reaching for Starr...
Angel: I was surfing abcam.com scoping out the latest antibodies, crused by and saw StevEs countdown and couldn't resist...LOL
Jimbo: 2001 was indeed the year of the Anti-Showbiz Kidz..whether ya like it or not. D&W, Joni, Rumsfeld, W, Afghanistan, caves and special ops, firefighters - I don't things will be the same for a long while...here's hoping for a somewhat more stable and healthy 2002 for all...and maybe, just maybe a NEXT ONE..
§: Just HOW did you do the Newsday thing? The links even worked! ...one helluva mock!
St. Al: There's no need for acid when ya have iMAX 3-D!!! We went to Galveston-Moody Gardens Pyramids with the kids. Into the Deep (Pacific) was electrifying...Think of the advantages:
1) Less than 10 bucks per
2) Never have a bad trip
3) You can watch and listen to 100s squeal with delight at the very same illusions, and reach for them, at the very same time!!
4) No compusion to purchase the Dead Discography!
In the name of Jeanne Dixon-->
2002 World Series Prediction: Cubs 4; Yankees 3
(1077) Jimbo: Wow, how did you find that bit of news? Great stuff, I am so impressed. Web Drone, we might actually have some accurate information here. 2 points for Jimbo. :-)
(1079) Ducky: AMEN!
(1082) Blaise: You got it! I am glad to hear that. I sent a package to my sister and it took almost 2 weeks. I had sent it priority and yours just regular mail. Hmmmmm....
Enjoy it and again, thanks so much for all you did this year.
(1070) Floridavid: A small voice saying, me too, me too. But only if you want me to come. Hope LA gives you a good time. You deserve it. Oh and don't forget where Remo drums are located. :-)
(1073) Steveedan: Sounds like a great evening. The incredible miles I would have had to drive definitely turned me off though.
Drive safe if you are going out tonight. Happy New Year to all.
So a couple of people have asked me about a planned trip to San Diego in April. The answer is we are most definitely planning this trip. Plane tickets, hotel reservations and rental car have already been booked/bought. The San Diego leg of the trip is part of a week long vacation with the family starting in Las Vegas and ending in San Diego. Here's how it will shake out:
Vegas -- 4/6 - 4/8
LA -- 4/8 - 4/12
San Diego -- 4/12 - 4/14
The deal is both Lovebob and Peg have been busting my ass about going to San Diego to see the Steely Damned play, and I've wanted to for a long time. In fact, I tried it once but Bob gave me some sorry-ass excuse about Rockola having some high-paying corporate gig in Chicago which took precedence. Can you BELIEVE the nerve?
Anyway, because of the family I had arrange this vacation to include more than a night in San Diego to watch a band play. My wife wasn't too excited UNTIL I included Vegas and LA (Disney California and Magic Mountain) in the mix. The beauty of this is I'm hauling my 12 year old daughter along with to act as a babysitter. Nice 'eh?
So, even though there's nothing definite planned for a Steely Damned gig in San Diego on Friday and/or Saturday night, I'm crossing my fingers. Bob stated because of the busy schedules of the various band members it's tough to schedule anything more than 4 weeks in advance (another sorry-ass excuse).
But that's OK! I have faith in lovebob. What I'm thinking here is this is a Danfest in the making. Again, wont know for sure about the Steely Damned until we get closer to that weekend. However, I'd surely love it if we could arrange for some sort of partay. I've already gotten confirmation from a friend in the Bay Area who's planning on flying down. So, W1P, Craigster, Angel, Steeve, Stranger, JayDubz the rest of your So. Cal types -- mark it on your calendar. Maybe I could convince Miz Ducky to come down? Perhaps pry mWorld out of cowville? God knows after another shitty Winter in Seattle, April in the Southern California region sounds inviting. Even LA...
Stay tuned...
StAl
Well, NYE finds me in the same depressed condition I was in on Xmas Eve.
I reassess my year and still, even after a week, I find myself confronting failure everywhere I turn.
The therapy for Arthur Lee is going very poorly- just like when he was in prison for the last 6 years, he refuses to see me. Most of the other members of the band are dead, in prison, or some lunatic asylum.Baby Lemonade (his last back-up band) are either on the road or defunct.
The otterhound hasn't made a cent for me yet and is acting very moody lately.
I decided to go back to NY and things are very gloomy here still. I guess this is my last visit to NY for a while, and then, starting in 2002, I'll be trying to track AL down, somewhere on the left coast...
Dejectedly Yours,
Dr. Warren K.
angel - Mucho thanks for the best Christmas present I've gotten this year, bar none. Smooch. Nice, very nice. Again thanks a lot for that. It's fabulous. And I didn't even wear gloves when I opened the package. Goes to show how much trust has been established over the internet. lol ;-)
Happy New Year, all present and even those MIA. Yes, that's it... have a thought for our fallen friends on this day and pray for their safe return in the new year. Should be a big year (whatever that means).
Oh and... Happy Euro launch to our overseas GB connaissances.
"2002", whoa. Last time that mirror effect thingie happened was like, 1001 years ago, think about it. pfft
And Give Peace A Chance, perhaps?
Toodles from the Tundra
ß
Hello all-wasn't going to post, just getting my e-mail and directions to a party but felt drawn to share the dan-love this New Year's Eve with the best people I've never met, and a few that I have been lucky enough to share some great musical moments with.
Floridavid-condolences and prayers your way.
As soon as I saw the Steely Newsletter I felt the great buzz I had all spring and summer of 2000. Those sure were great memories D&W, but new ones would be even nicer!
Miz Ducky- a-MEN!
Have a safe and happy one!
Aja
Shut yer friggin' trap, Flamer.
Happy New Year, Dragon!
Hokay, I was psyched enough when the SD Newsletter (re-)started up, and even more psyched that D&W felt their current studio labors were far enough along that they could officially mention them in said newsletter. And now, thanks to Jimbo, I can deduce that they've got something sufficiently solid in the can (or on the hard disk) to start with the overdubbing finesses.
Yowza. Doesn't that just make all the Steely blood start pumping through my heart like mad. Nice little silver lining with which to end the year, I'd call that.
Happy New Year and New One to you, Donald and Walter--and thanks once again for bearing with us, your wild and crazee hardcore fans. We do tend to get a little whack in various ways, but you know it's only 'cause we've all become junkies for that sound that only you guys know how to do. (Oh yeah, and because we luvs yez to death, we really do.)
Okay, maybe I should only speak for myself when I post mush like that, but I bet if I hollered for a witness I'd get at least a few amens.
/the Mam'zelle
searching for that taste you said you'd bring to me
Bill your posts are,
Steveedan can you tell us once more,
Blaise you wouldn't know a,
Clas there's no excuse for,
aw fukit! Even if you make my job so easy
Happy New Year all you idiots and Non ID-10-Ts
Hope everyone had a good Holiday. I just got a new computer for Christmas and I'm hoping to set up tonight.
In the mean time, before I continue, if you want to know what Walt and Donald have been up to:
check out this link- http://www.bearsvillestudios.com/nov01news.htm
Until September 11, 2001 was an okay year. More cultural overload
and political hipocrisy continues. But of course the fact that in one night, two angry old men came out and left Madonna, N'Stink, Britney
Spears, Eminem and the rest of Show Biz Kids in the dust is the moment
that is the greatest moment of 2001.
The hip kids who followed the Show Biz Kids were confused.
It's for them, "Who are these guys. Who do these skilled musicians think
they taking the big awards away from our favorites. Isn't selling records and being successful and famous what wins Grammies?"
To the hip kids: NO! It's about making great music and attracting level-headed people who had it up to here with the current top 40 crap as well
as the vomit provoking sounds of Kenny G., Lee Greenwood( who, thanks to Bin Laden, is more annoying than ever) Brooks and Dunn, and anything that
Mariah Carey and Michael Jackson did this year.
You win based on talent, skill, and musical independence. You don't win based on controversy record sales and how close to half-naked you have to be onstage. Nelson George, a music critic, alleged that a double standard was set because Eminem was getting the negatives (as he should) and that Steely Dan wasn't just because the lyrics were racy too. Nelson, the reason is that Don and Walt don't live like that Eminem does and has caused trouble for everyone from his mom to his ex-wife. While Eminem enjoys the media attention, Steely Dan could tell the "hip" media to kiss their asses. They won fair and square and they make no apologies for it.
Whew, better lay off on the coffee. Anywho, playing tape over and over of the Grammy audiences reaction is worth it. Seeing Jenna Elfman's reaction
of shock while Joni Mitchell applauding one of the wins was truly priceless.
When the Grammy nominations come, expect a lot of sarcastic remarks on our boys. But that's okay, come 2002, a new Cd should be out maybe late in the year, but at least they'll give the Show Biz Kids something to cry about.
Gotta Go.
A much more positive 2002 to you all. After 9/11, I think we deserve
a new beginning.
Floridavid -- 1/17 to 1/21? Missing W1P 1/12 and 1/26 shows -- can't tell you bout the shape I'm in, I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin -- oh well.
Attrocious spelling -- apostrophy, and it's y'all, not y?all.
Steveeweevie
All of my apostriphies and quotation marks came out as question marks. I wrote this post in Word for Windows and pasted it in here from there. Only the Mr. Moore ?s were as there were supposed to be. "in-law", "Dear Old Dad", Public Service Announcement: -- , Etc.
Happy, Healthy New Year
Steveedan (No Question)
Mr. Moore ? Mr. Moore ? Fdavid ? -- are you coming to California in January? I would love to link up with you and Jdubs if you are coming to Los Angeles. I am long overdue on having coffee or something with JW and would like to see if we can all get together.
My condolences on the passing of your father-in-law. I am guessing that you had a closer relationship with him than the label ?in-law? would connote. I too have a great relationship with my Mother-in-law, much closer than with my own Mother, so I understand how you must feel. I hope that the new year brings you better events than this one that is ending. Knock ?em dead tonight though. Do it for ?Dear Old Dad?.
The Steely Fan Band played Saturday night in Newport Beach at a cozy little sports bar called Hogue Barmichaels, which was fun. It was the first time that I played my new keyboard out in public and it was a great experience. It was the easiest and swiftest set-up and tear-down I ever had, and it was also the easiest keyboard to navigate through the various sounds that I have ever used. In certain songs, I use 2 different sounds (in Sign In Stranger (piano and vibes) and in Do It Again (Rhodes and organ), and it was very easy to get from one sound and back without losing a beat. Also, this keyboard has the best sounds that I have ever used, not counting real grand pianos that I have played at country clubs, hotels, and private residences, and also my 1977 Fender-Rhodes, but that thing is so heavy, it?s like moving a coffin. Also, I was able to plug in direct to the club?s PA system so I did not have to bring an amplifier. This was the most convenient gig I have ever played (not counting the 50 miles I had to drive from LA to Newport Beach, but that was OK).
Public Service Announcement ? The Doctor Wu band is playing in Santa Monica (the town made famous by the thoroughly pickled Jerome Aniton) tonight to ring in the new year at the 14 Below club. Steely Fan Band alumnus guitarist Derek S. and original Wu band guitarist and music director Nick A. will be on stage tonight with the band. Hey Los Angelinos ? come on down and hear more live Steely Dan music tonight. Why settle for Dick (Dorian Grey) Clark and 5,000 of New York?s finest on TV?
I send you all best wishes for a happy, healthy, and prosperous new year.
Take care y?all.
Steveedan
Floridavid....this really has been a tough year for you man....play your heart out tonight and here's hoping you'll see a much better year coming up....I'm sorry to hear about your father-in-law, sounds like he was a pretty cool dude....take care and we'll talk to you next year.
Duncan....glad you found the cats....proceed to knock out that bottle 'o wine now....hope you & the fam have a SAFE and Happy New Year!
and a Happy New Year to all the denizens of the Guest Book.....maybe Walter + Donald will have some surprises in store for us this coming year.
still rockin' the suburbs here....
MC
Found the cat's & got some more wine.. not a bad afternoon's work
Is it to early to start celebrating?
LOL
Well it's been a hell of a year.From Sept.11 to my Brothers Death and my vocal chord surgery it's been seemingly non-stop. We had our final bit of Bad news yesterday when my Wife's Dad passed away at 8am.
I could not have asked for a better, cooler Father-in -Law.One of those rare Guys from the WW2 generation who never, not once judged the long haired 18 yr old musician dating his daughter.
Ok, it can all stop and lighten up now. At least I still have my GB friends...I think.
Everybody please have a Safe and Happy New Year. I'm gonna Sing and Play my best tonight and 2002 is gonna be much better.
JDubbs and Bob Tedde , hope to see you in L.A. Jan 17th thru 21st.
P.S. Aus for Mayor...sounds like a Winner.
Still no cat's & it looks like next door's may have gone also..
Don't really know what else to say.. -5 here last night more snow
http://www.lindunk.co.uk/gallery/gallery.cgi?Category=2
I hope everyone else has a great new year's eve
Must say though that neither Linda or I feel much like celebrating at the moment..
Getting seriously low on Vino also...nightmare
MC thanks
JJ: sorry watching the Truman show & still crazy last night
Best of luck to all on the GB for 2002
SD moment yesterday looked through some honeymoon photo's of a friend taken last year in Kwai?
Love you, love your show. All musicians talk of the Dan on a daily basis around the world. Ah, if I could only get as many requests for "Peg" as I get for ACDC and Skynard. Anywho.....would love to hear your interviews....but I've got news for the webmaster...... REAL PLAYER TOTALLY SUCKS!!! Maybe check out Windows Media?
mmmkay,
Adam B
You are what your record says you are.
-Bill Parcells
This is true. Except in the case of the rediculous
New York Jets who with 9 wins and 6 losses still
manage to really, really suck!
Buffalo 14
NY Jets 6
Way to ring in the new year boys!
That should have read penultimate post...
I forgot to acknowledge some people.
MC: The long johns came from a small Canadian outlet called Mountain Gear, I think. Will get you more info. when I get home if you're serious in knowing.
z: thanks for info. The song doesn't ring a bell.
Some good parodies yesterday, mu and blaise.
Sorry Duncan, you had your chance. I waited a couple minutes, anyway.
Last post of the year for me
Angel: Cute parody(1062). Thanks:-)
Any resolutions out there? Now's the time to commit. I'd like to say I'll stop smoking, but when I have a toke I LOVE to have a smoke( or 2or3). Pack a week, not TOO bad. I will commit to buying a canoe and get some serious upper body exercise.
OK Duncan, it's your turn.
jjeff- good JW story- LOVE's biggest hit was a song named "Alone Again/Or" quite a psychotic title like all the rest of their tunes. Arthur Lee was the first Afro-American psychedelic rock musician who sang, wrote songs, and claimed to play every instrument for LOVE. Their best album was "Forever Changes" back in the mid 60s.
I already posted this but it mysteriously disappeared...
Howdy folks--
Having been stuck at home in front of the TV the past couple of days due to a little tummy trouble, I have stumbled upon a few televized Steely moments to share with y'all:
1) One of our local public television stations broadcasts a syndicated show called "CD Highway." On a segment focusing on Nashville, guess who was one of their artist interviewees? Larry Carlton, looking just a tad more grizzled but otherwise his usual sweet and chipper self. The 10-minute interview mostly focused on his recent release and his near-death experience, but at least the interviewer did invoke his time with the Dan while talking Larry through his career highlights.
2) VH-1 ran their "Behind the Music" on the Doobie Brothers--including extensive interview footage with Mike McDonald and Skunk Baxter. SD mentioned only with reference to Mike and Jeff having met there ... but as the documentary unfolded, covering how Mike and Jeff apparently locked horns a lot during their time with the Doobies, I got the distinct impression that part of the tussle seemed to stem from Mike being highly particular about musical arrangement and orchestration--heh, wonder where he got that from? :-)
3) Some random end-of-year-in-music-videos something-or-other on one of the MTVs (my memory fuzzes out on this one, due to various, erm, activities at the time). Think it was a couple of dudes from Alien Ant Farm being interviewed. The one thing my brain honed in on for sure: the Tour 2K t-shirt, with the NYC Steely subway token design, worn by one of the two dudes. (If you've seen AAF's hysterical cover of Jacko's "Smooth Criminal," you'll know these erstwhile punk-poppers can really actually play.)
I'll probably be on again between now and the 1st, but in case I'm not, happy New Year to everyone out there, and keep on jammin' along!
/the Mam'zelle
(scanning the media desert for signs of intelligent life)
(1057) jjeff: Yes, I am glad someone caught on. Pretty neat trick, angels
in the snow. As promised, just a hint of a parody.
Jeff walks the streets
all bundled up
with his silk long Johns
He's sealed up tight
He can beat the freeze
and have fun tonight.
(I will leave it to you, to figure out the dancer's part.) :-)
(1059) Dano: I can't believe you are STILL partying! Happy New Year to you and your family and drive safe.
(1061) MC: I echo your thoughts. May we get the new one, sometime in the next year. Maybe a small chance of a tour this summer, if they are essentially done with the record and just marking time, until it is released. :-)
Duncan....did you find the cats yet?
jjeff...I totally agree about the O Brother soundtrack....I probably put more miles on that CD than any other this past year....btw,where does one find silk long johns? sounds like comfortable lounging gear in cold weather!
steviedan....I remember crazy Bill too. He of the cool Grand Funk T-shirt fame! Sounds like he really is a good friend. A heckuva nice guy for sure.
My best wishes to each and every one of you for a safe and Happy New Year. May 2002 bring us some new Dan. I suspect it will but we'll likely have to wait until '03 for the tour.
#1028
wormy..Yeah, but does Stone have 16 Aurelianos with ash crosses on their foreheads? Or selfcentered Remedios the beauty? And what about the Ice? Those gypsies were trouble from the start...Ha!
It just dawned on me...100 Years of Solitude is my all time fav book. The house we had on St Croix was in a part of the Island called Solitude. Coincidence? I think not!
Fat Boy Returns.......
Currently trying to mellow on TAN on the pc , feeling fat as a stuck pig and muellered on Mick Jagger(Lager).
But afore i go .....
TWM I"m in Greenock tonight , and in Glasgow City Centre Monday night.
Are you in the toon on Hogamany?? Can you E-mail me for a possible Swallie??
Angel , Its snowing here and Scotland looks the picture in this weather.
Duncan , Hope the wee man is keeping well, when are you in London??
St Al , As we are nearly in the New Year I will see you blind on a Scottish fry up , aand raise you a Haggis Supper My man.......
Hope everyone on the GB has a great New Year and a happy Hogmany....
Lang may yir lumb reek.....
Have a great time everybody and speak to you all in the New Year.
Rgards Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaano.
Hello Steelyfolk,
Well it's been a hell of a year has'nt it?
Not one of the greatest as years go, but it seems
to be ending on a good note. Remember those crazy
gas prices?...a thing of the past now. Remember
how the stock market just seemed to be spiraling
downward with no end in site?...the Dow is back up
over 10,000 and heading up. Remember the devastating
shock of September 11th?...the country has recovered
from it and we're stronger and safer now, which is
more than can be said for those who perpetrated the
crime. It's one heck of a strong country we got here
ain't it? I'm kinda proud of it. It still stands and
we still stand. Thats a pretty reassuring thing to
know. I'm looking forward to a really good year in
2002. Heck, even the stock market folks on CNBC are
smilin' ! To all the Steely Dan folks wherever you
are, whatever country you're in, here's to you!
Hope that the comming year is a peaceful and
profitable one for you, and thanks for keeping the
music of Steely Dan alive.
Duncan( I know you're there):Self-combusting trainers, eh? You really HAVE put on the weight, haven't you. And little Dan's been baptized!!! Mess his hair for me. Mess Linda's too, while you're at it. You're truly blessed.
Angel: Have you noticed when you put asterisks in the header they look like snow angels?***
Anyone from Buffalo that regularly posts? 6ft. of snow coming through your radio. Poor buggers.
z: I work with a JW who is 50+ and acts like he's got the ear of God. Two weeks ago he got caught shoplifting groceries( chinese cabbage, I heard) underneath his jacket. The employee stopped him at the exit and questioned him and he RAN!!! They caught him locked in his car in the parking lot. Yesterday, he came to the lab and said he had something to tell us. He then went on to say that he was going through a personal crisis, possibly mid-life( when he said that I had to turn around for fear of guffawing in his face) and that he was on medication and could we please bear with him. Nothing about the shoplifting. Apparantly the store is not going to lay charges because he's an outstanding member of the community and has a "sickness". Yeah, sick of getting caught.
Does the O Brother soundtrack qualify as this years release? If so, I would nominate it as the best CD I've heard for '01, not that I've heard a great deal.
z: Did Love have a hit? The name sounds familiar but Arthur Lee doesn't.
Was someone raving about Jessie Cook lately? I just heard a concert on DNTO and he's great!!! Very dexterous.
OOOHH!!! Got a call!!!$$$$$
Gotta go.
Ready for a Rock and Roll New Year's weekend!
A reminder for you all to catch the last show of the year for Steely Fan Band!
Tonight!, December 29,Hogue Barmichaels in Newport Beach will be rockin with Steely Dan and Rolling Stones music!!! Catch the SFB LIVE along with Sticky Fingers....show starts at 9pm...admission is $10.00 at the door.
Also, if you need your new year's fix of more Steely..then catch our next show:
Friday Night, January 11,2002-8pm
The Coach House in San Juan Capistrano,Ca.
Featuring:
Highway 61 Revisited-Bob Dylan Tribute
Steely Fan Band-Steely Dan Tribute
Led Zepland-Led Zeppelin Tribute
Thanks Again For Your Continued Support!
Mr.Sticks
www.steelyfanband.com
My trainers often self conbust...
does this mean i'm a terrorist ?
And it was going so well...
The Birthday party was fantastic, great fun.
BUT
now both cats have gone missing...
how long before we phone the police ?
I can't take this anymore!
Here I am, selling deludin at one half the price to get a plane ticket out here, giving my emmisary z free deludin to post about it, using the darn otterhound as protection (all he does is lick people)to get to his apartment in one of the seediest sections of East LA, and you Steeleye Span or Steelie Dan people just keep ignoring the most impotant event of the new century!
Arthur Lee is free!
Well, I'm going to have to take gorilla action and seize this darn Guest Book!
That's right- from now on I'm renaming this darn place "Sign-in Deranged One"! In honor of you-know-who. And if saint Ralph or whoever runs this darn place doesn't like it-tough nuggies!
I'm going to bring a number of important speakers here, starting with Arthur's cellmate/bitch of 6 years, Javon Williams. After that I'm going to have a number of people who have upset Arthur in the past and force him to confront his fears- right online!
First I'll have the neighbor that AL shot the gun at, then the ex-girlfriend whose porch he set on fire, then Jac Venza who promoted the Doors over LOVE when AL got Jimmy Morrisson their contract with Elektra. Then we'll try to channel a number of people who aren't with us anymore-largely due to Arthur-the roadie who OD'd, Bryan McLean- who died of a broken heart after AL wouldn't record any of his songs and even cut his melody part out of LOVE's only hit record,"Alone Again/Or", Jimi Hendrix- who stole AL's "psychedelic" clothing style- with the granny glasses and the boots-without giving AL credit, and finally the guys in his band, whom he forced to rob roadside doughnut stands so they could all afford heroin!
Maybe we can even get those two guys from stealer dan to talk about how much Arthur influenced their songwriting and their little rock and/or roll band? After all, both Donny Faygun and Arthur sing in falsetto.
Well, that's enough for now- oh BTW
steviedan- Funkified versions of "Chanukah,Oh Chanukah" and "Christmas Celebration" and an instrumental version of the lovely rap tune "Back That Ass Up"- which was deranged by z so strangely that none of the 9th graders knew what song it was. Z told me he would've included BS in the first concert,for the 10th,11th and 12th graders, but there wasn't enough time left in the program, which was held during school hours.
However, he did say he was happy about the way BS turned out, and that's all he cared about.
Guerilla-I mean Gorilla war fighterly yours,
Dr. Warren K.
(1047) jjeff: You will get your reward in the new year. Don't have time for parody's right now. But I have 4 days off... :-)
I like that New Years Eve idea, btw.
It is actually a rainy day in Los Angeles. Perfect kind of kick back and do nothing day. Got to go shopping though.
Steveedan and Mr. Sticks: Drive safe and play DTMA tonight. Glad you guys are back and sending out Dan cheer.
Drive West on Broadway to the freeze
Turn those electric mittens down
Damn, I can't even see the town
This is no one night snow
It's weather misbehavin'
Close my eyes I can still steer
Cause everything is gray
Was that Don and Walter on a sleigh?
Heard in Texas it's a sunny day
Baffling Blizzard, shake us
Baffling Blizzard, shake us
So white, piled high
Did I really want to see the Buffalo sky?
We'll shovel with the snow folk
They'll lay down the sand
Is there coffee at the Texaco or Shell?
All St. Jude's calls are held
Well, I should know by now
That's a pectoral spasm
Like a pocket defib. from Ikea
It's a Clapper without battery Cs
or a Bills game without Flutie
Now my nose is too froze to sneeze
Baffling Blizzard, shake us
Baffling Blizzard, shake us
So white, piled high
Did I really want to see the Buffalo sky?
Here comes that lake effect breeze again...
Bad news!
My friend say no don't go
hiking to that Sugar Mountain
Ain't 'nuff wood there to make a fire
the Kid need something to burn
matches, wooden bridge, pointed sticks I'll turn
If we still had Boy Scouts I would have learned
Baffling Blizzard, shake us
Baffling Blizzard, shake us
So white, piled high
Did I really want to see the Buffalo sky?
Here comes that lake effect breeze again...
Aaaachoooo!!!
Abnormal temps Chorus: We take the lube, Chorus We sell our ice maps in this frozen tundra
Weird snowbound town
Without skis attached
We're gonna trip and crash
We're gonna have sore buns
We hit the street
Width-wise, up, down
With our perma-squeeze
Cuddled up tight
We can beat the throw
And slide safe tonight
Let's tip our hats to Mayor x
That little dance and awesome smile
Aus is the one I'll be voting for
At this stage though
Snowbound
Real slippery today
Pick me up
When the ploughs come 'round this way
Beat up
These white tighs
We're gonna turn this 'round
Vote for Aus in '05!
Two clubs. Hi Ho...
How about a dead place?
Where's my parking space?
And my Pontiac too?
Snow anew befallen Buffalo
It's a kind of para-skid
Witness humanoids
Slipping on an iron grid
Acrylic garments
And scarfs went out of style
Road work reduces loss limb plight
I've had a laugh as we stepped out
Unto the blue-white ice
Some lose it, tired of whole affair, amen
For several seconds, dislike Christmas day
And where's it parked again?
Oh Oh Oh
Where'd I park again?
Hi jjeff - Thank you, it was meant to be in the same vein as that line in the Ballad of The Red Baron (the one that goes: 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 or more ...). The line is "curses, foiled again!" I had a feeling that someone was lurking, but I tried to float that 1000th post, and in the middle of it, I hit the "back" key, and lost about 1 minute in my attempt to post. It probably wouldn't have mattered any way, because, there was a lurking Mu.
"You're a lurking Mu, and you've gone too far but you know it don't matter any way. You can rely on the old Mac's software ... you can rely on the old Mac's software ..." Where was I? Oh yeah, curses, foiled again.
I still think about that story about the squirrel in the vacuum cleaner at your brother's place, and still crack up uncontrolably. If you have more stories like that one lying around, please don't keep them from us. And I'll bet that squirrel was PISSED!
To Sir Stevie of Dan - I would gladly handle any of your requests, if I am able to. You are always welcome. Thank you too.
I don't know why I am up so late, but, I guess I feel like a squirrel in a vacuum.
Confuse-A-Dan
Good morning, people.
Steveedan: Steve, my man, yes you took the burn well. Despite the profanity, everyone could tell you meant it in the most kindest of ways. Good on ya'.
Steviedan:OOO!!! JB in orange!!! LOUD AND PROUD!!! I got silk long johns. That's an admission I only share with friends. They are surprisingly warm but I don't let anyone know I have them on. Very ballet-looking( Jesus, I got nice legs). I wore them on Boxing Day, -5c( don't make me convert you), and the only cold thing on me was my nose.
I've learned not to buy or record music for other people unless they ask for it. I was inevitably disappointed they didn't show the same enthusiasm as I did over hearing it. It takes a brave person.
Angel: Get outta that tree, right now!!! And do something with those wings, they're all full of gum. And hair!!? You look like Quay Lude on a windy day ;-)
Aussie darling: I would love to help out your proposed mayoral campaign by volunteering to be your official bartendress.
And purveyor of relaxicants.
It's tradition, y'know.
Cheers!
/the Mam'zelle
proud member of the All Night Party
of course the best is being co-claus for my kids for another year...
word from the mothership !!!
two brave souls actually got me cd's. my brother delivered "central avenue sounds: jazz in los angeles (1921-1956)" boxset and though i own a fair amount of it on other things, quite the coup for bro'ham...
the other was my friend (ole, you remember) crazy bill. testifin' like a wise man with "the word", an instrumental gospel/jazz/blues hybird featuring john medeski (of mm&w) and robert randolph (guitarist for north mississippi all-stars). ho ho ho, c-bill. tasty & soul satisfyin'...
... but don't even sell my boy short. his piece de resis was stupifying. an orange JAMES BROWN t-shirt or should i say my new favorite tee. unbridled GLEE !
z, pray tell... what tune DID you guys do ? in lieu, so to speak...
on the mounsey/khan tip, there are MUCH better steve khan records. ANY of the ones with anthony jackson. the collaboration isn't a complete loss, but it's a little happy, as in happy-jazz-like...
father billy, four bitchin' babes are... well, bitchin' !
good to see the herm gettin' out.
stevee, thanx for takin' the colour request.
happy belated holidays.
back to normal.
HHeeyy - jjeeffff -
YYoouu wwrroottee::
"I read some good parodies, funny rants(z),interesting spiels( JayDubs) and a terrific burn(mu)." ...
I don't even get a mention? I was the BURNEE! You can't have the burner with out the burnee, and you will be best served to remember that.
Don't make me come up there and shove a furry creature into your vacuum cleaner for ya (or into somewhere else)!
I got your furry creature right here.
Stevee(extra crispy)Dan (MFM for the you know who)
How's the pow-pow, Mr. Beatty? Gonna' go ride some SoCal crud manana...hopefully we won't get rained out!
Happy New Year to my dear friends at the ole' GB!
I accept your nomination for Atty General and Border Czar.
The things I would do,if only this was true
Ed (skiing my ass off in Utah) Beatty
I will consent to be Attorney General in the Aus Administration if called. Besides, I need a job though this Enron thing may work out MMmmmmm
No political aspirations here...
Just thought I'd poke my head in here to see how everyone's fared over the Christmas holidays. There's definitely a positivity in the air. Can you feel it?( insert long Southern Baptist rap here)
I read some good parodies, funny rants(z),interesting spiels( JayDubs) and a terrific burn(mu). Nice to see Herm back. Dragon, read Dear Theo by Somerset Maughn, I think. Worm, sorry there's no # references but I'm doin' this off the top of my head. If anyone feels left out, sorry. I do read everything and appreciate it all.
MC: The Juniper Incident: A woman who I exchange plants with made me a centerpiece of juniper and cones, really nice. I brought it home,put it on the mantlepiece and crashed on the sofa. Next thing I know both cats have got their heads shoved so far in this thing that all you can see are their tails, and they're quivering!!! I tried getting a picture but as soon as I moved they were off, like cats do when they know they're doing something wrong. BTW, lovely house. Very cozy.
I've got the task of housing New Years dinner for my family, 17 of which have confirmed.Everyone brings something. After the meal my oldest sister has a quiz where someone picks out of hat, an event written on a piece of paper. These include things that happened to our own family in the last year as well as international events. Each person can ask a question which can be answered yes or no until the event is guessed. Try it with your own families.
gee auss
can blaise and I write your campaign speeches?
Ed for border control?
June for etiquette?
Mu the minister of science?
Chere - queen of juju?
St Al - the cardinal?
wt
Quentin: You're in pal. Pleasure to have you on board sir.
Any other Steely folk with political ambitions and with loot as tempting as sir Q's out there?
Aus
Can I be Treasurer in the new Auss. '05 Administration?
I promise complete Steely Dan CD libraries for all New Yorkers as my first bribe.
More largesse will be extended. We will win at all financial costs.
I endorse any and all expenditures required to suit Messrs. Becker & Fagen. This is my pledge and platform.
I know I'm an "out of towner"/carpetbagger, but that doesn't seem to to matter - so.........?
Hi everyone -
Well ... Post # 1035 was a nice "exchange".
I wonder if it was tax-free?
Remember kids, the Steely Fan Band will be playing tomorrow night in Newport Beach. Refer to post # 1026 for details if you would like to come. Please note: Hogue Barmichaels is on the corner of Campus and Quail (not Campus and Bristol). It should be easy to find though. Sticky Fingers, a Rolling Stones tribute band opens for us. We headline this gig.
Happy Holidays to you and yours.
Steveedan
top ten reasons aussie will be mayor of NYC in 2005 (or sooner)
12) wonderworm of gramercy park can't rely on neighborhood owners to get his own key
11) upper west side will get the Y Golden K treatment
10) or was that the KY Gold treatment?
9) Babes for first lady is a hell of a lot more glamorous that Hillary
8) Don and Walt get keys to the city and phat expenses paid apartment overlooking Central Park
7) rollerblading encouraged at annual Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade
6) ground zero will become a shrine to freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness
5) JFK will open daily non-stops to Musswellbrook
4) Grand Central Station will be renamed Double Your Pleasure Depot ;-)
3) Glamourous Swedish Stock Brokers make good cabinet appointees
2) B & T travel will be restricted so the real Manhattanites can enjoy things in peace
1) Union Square will continue to be anything but
wt
see my sites above and below:
http://www.fiftiesweb.com/families.htm
aus/malc - hey, i get to be chief of staff, hell, i'd move down there for that gig in a heartbeat! could be a roarin good time - i'm a great speech writer aus, think about it - the inaugeration ball alone would be a rocket blast, wouldn't it?
june is finally beat from having three dinner parties in a row for family and, friends in town from denver, too much rich food and good wine can get to you after a while - now i must pack up for the trip to syracuse tomorrow to ring in the new year with family and childhood friends, should be fun.....perhaps they will get some of that lake effect snow there for some sledding, we can only hope?
happy new year's to all - make it safe but fun (is that possible?)
to my offline cyber friends: please note my excite email account is no longer valid, please use the one above, or, if it's during the day, my work email
love to all, thanks for your continued good thoughts, i'm almost out of my rough times
Mr. Hunter: Hmmmmm....certainly a thought. But do you think I can really pull it off without a single day of serving in a public office as an elected official? And even if it were pheasible, all my dirty laundry would be aired for all the public to see (refer to sordid affair with June, et. al..... naahhhhh. Super nice thought though; and a remarkable staff to boot too....I much prefer lurking away from the shiny lights and flashbulbs and continue my humble, yet simple life in peace and traquility.
Aus
Aus: while Senor Bloomberg is taking stock of his new sit, I'd like to promote you and your 'causes' for the Mayoralty of NYC in '05. Perhaps you could engage Rudy in some advise.
A. Cole could be your Communications Expert, Babes a doting and loyal supporter; D. Rau in some appropriate position. Paulie? Mingus Big Band for Breakfast. Just place me on the Council of Arts.
Imagine: a Steely Mayor for NYC - perhaps give D&W keys to the sit-ayyy.....
What say you, Counsel?
ygk
Dean Wurmer: Thanks for heads up on Vega.....Babes would love it so I'll get right on it. Funny thing is when you were here and I invited you to the Big Smoke, Mayor Guiliani was there and we had some single malts and cigars with him and his group....super nice guy; you would have loved it brother...maybe next year at the same time.
LuckLess Pedestrian: What goes on my dear June love?? Ward misses you terribly...
EVERYONE: HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
L-U-V,
Aus
daddy don't Mayor in that NYC no more
caught Rudy on Letterman last night
first time I've had the tv on in a month
what a classy guy
people have been saying that a NY politician may be the next president
scrap Hilly and Billy and give us the Rude-meister
could you imagine Rudy interviewing the don and walt collective?
ps2 - Auss it's the Hamerstein Ballroom for Vega on 1/11
with half a heart
and a third of a brain
will tell you
nonsense
hey gang
1022 - blaise simply brilliant phat sneeks
sorry to busy to recip
1018 angel - santa's just running a little late on that dan
thanks for the 12 nod
1019 Dragon - twas over exposure to the burning southern france sun
not a chemical imbalance that led Vince astray
again Irving Stone - Lust For Life
can't recommend it enough
right up there with Gabriel Garcia Marquez' 100 Years of Solitude
992 W1P what an expose on the beatles
I saw a NYC jam at that very same club in Nov - Meters meets Martin Medeski
ps - Auss 1/11 Suzanne Vega in NYC (not sure on the venue, but go)
1014 - Aja - nice to hear you taking a moment
big swirl back
my son has been singing along to Katy Lied which has been on heavy tape rotation in the car
Dr Wu and Movies his fave
there is hope for the next gen
wormy
Twas the day after Christmas, and all through the house,
Every creature was hurting-- even the mouse.
The toys were all broken, their batteries dead;
Santa passed out, with some ice on his head.
Wrapping and ribbons just covered the floor, while
Upstairs the family continued to snore.
And I in my T-shirt, new Reeboks and jeans,
Went into the kitchen and started to clean.
When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
I sprang from the sink to see what was the matter.
Away to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the curtains, and threw up the sash.
When what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But a little white truck, with an oversized mirror.
The driver was smiling, so lively and grand;
The patch on his jacket said "U.S. POSTMAN."
With a handful of bills, he grinned like a fox,
Then quickly he stuffed them into our mailbox.
Bill after bill, after bill, they still came.
Whistling and shouting he called them by name:
"Now Dillard's, now Broadway's, now Penny's and Sears
Here's Levitz's and Target's and Mervyn's--all here!!
To the top of your limit, every store, every mall,
Now chargeaway-chargeaway-chargeaway all!"
He whooped and he whistled as he finished his work,
He filled up the box, and then turned with a jerk.
He sprang to his truck and he drove down the road,
Driving much faster with just half a load.
Then I heard him exclaim with great holiday cheer,
"ENJOY WHAT YOU GOT ... YOU'LL BE PAYING ALL YEAR!"
Boy, it sure looks like a lot of our "regulars" are out of town, or just away from their computers for the holidays. That's probably healthy (I wouldn't know ...). I musta caught sumtum from Doc. Mu (Hep me! Hep me! I be hipmotized !!!).
Anyway, here we go ... time for more S H A M E L E S S
P L U G G I N G !!!
Tomorrow night The Steely Fan Band rides again. We will be playing at Hogue Barmichaels in Newport Beach, CA. at 9 PM.
The address is: 3950 Campus Blvd.,Newport Beach (on the corner of Bristol & Campus), phone number is 949-261-6270.
Tickets are $10.00 at the door.
Also appearing on the bill will be a tribute to The ROLLING STONES performed by STICKY FINGERS!
Come out and celebrate with us as this will be a great night of music!
It looks like our hiatus is coming to an end. The SFB have some gigs lined up in January. Don't worry, you'll be hearing about it right here ...
In the meantime, if you drink, think, ... arrive alive. OK? OK.
Steveedan (MFM for the SFB)
C'est §...
A new Steely Dan newsletter--what a lovely Christmas present! Sure beats the pants off of my other big Christmas "surprise" -- a backed-up kitchen sink. Yikes!
Ah well. So waiting for the plumber turned into something akin to waiting for Godot--at least it extended my holiday time away from work. (And gave me more time to laze around the house and listen to more Dan!)
/the Mam'zelle
now back to her usual free-flowing self
hey was that you blaise or was it the new orleans own wormy?
what's new in here?
pork roast, mashed potato's, salad and cheesecake and pears soaked in spiced wine for dinner - cabernet for wine
aus, what's new, malc?
PHAT SNEAKERS
Flight names, that I can hardly stand to hear A ham gone insane Phat Sneakers with a pin-out for lightin', my friend Yo Falafel, you tearing up the seats
American, United with some x appended here
I can see the lad is stalking (thank the French for blowing hard)
And he dreams up excavation of this aircraft's inner walls
Laughing as he boards the plane
A plan soooooo-o blown
Allah, why you couldn't keep him home?
Crouching in the aisleway, try "radical silly"
When a stewardess ripped this large chunk of booty to shreds
You light them swedish matches, now don't you go blow up your feet
You intake mouthfuls of fuel
Then you pick that one aisle seat
That bitch out in the aisleway just got bitten by your teeth
Angel- There were too many acts going on for everyone to fit in the 44minute period so I decided to can BS till the next one.
We didn't even get to the coda and the girl who was supposed to sing the chorus never showed up for rehearsal.
A riot almost broke out when the West African Dance Club got left out of the show. They got on stage anyway and had to be dragged off by security and the students in the auditorium refused to leave their seats!
Never a dull moment at an inner-city high school in NYC!
I was very happy with the way the kids played BS, the trombone player imitated DF's every inflection- I'm gonna give the kid a 100 this semester.
One of my fellow music teachers played alto sax with us for the last rehearsal and loved it. He couldn't believe it was SD.
He had seen SD back in the 1970s, (before AJA and Gaucho came out) at Westbury Music Fair (remember that place?-I used to be in the house band from 1975-76) and thought they were just a rock band back then, because that's what they were. Other than "Dr. Wu", I don't like any of that pre-Aja stuff.
Anyway, I'm sorry Newsday had to break the gag order on the Super Bowl gig, I wanted to keep it a surprise. Doctor Warren Kruger will be there to watch over his new patient, the once-great Arthur Lee of the 1960s LA band LOVE, who will be sitting in, along with Jeff Porcaro and many other late players who worked with the band.
Blaise -- what the hell do you think you're doing ya crazy canuck? Funny, very funny...
Merry post Christmas and Boxing day..Happy Kawanza!
Had a wonderful visit with Jim# and Mrs# and all the sharp kids..Gyp, you da good dog (you not de bad dog like Indie).
Mrs#..Lets sneak out again when Jim# falls asleep..lol.
Jim#..2 words for ya...BELT SANDER!!!!!!!...HA!
Markski...NO SMOKIN' CIGARS IN HERE! But, we have a loverly deck and its only 45 (Freakin') DEGREES BELOW ZERO outside, heehee
Mrs Markski...Thanks for the hug at Hodad's!
Jim# gave me a CD (or2) for Christmas and one song has touched me so. I thought about St Croix and Paul and I just wanted to share this with you all, so please indulge me...
I'm writing you to
catch you up on places I've been
You held this letter
probably got excited,
but there's nothing else inside it
didn't have a camera by my side this time
hopeing
I would see the world with both my eyes
maybe I will tell you all about it
when I'm
in the mood to lose my way with words
Today skies are painted colors of a cowboy's cliche'
And strange how clouds that look like mountains in the sky
are next to mountains anyway
Didn't have a camera by my side this time
Hoping I would see the world with both my eyes
Maybe I will tell you all about it when I'm
in the mood to lose my way
but let me say
You should have seen that sunrise with your own eyes
it brought me back to life
You'll be with me next time I go outside
just no more 3x5's Guess you had to be there
Guess you had to be with me Today I finally overcame
tryin' to fit the world inside a picture frame
Maybe I will tell you all about it when I'm in the mood to
lose my way but let me say
You should have seen that sunrise with your own eyes
it brought me back to life
You'll be with me next time I go outside
no more 3x5's
just no more 3x5's
words by John Mayer from the "Room for Squares" CD (Thanks, Jimmyyyy#)
This year on New Years day I'll be sitting on the beach at Asseteague Island..watching the sunrise. Sorry for the long post, just making up for a week of no posting.
I hope everybody had a wonderous Christmas and I'm sending out shouts of Peace to all,
Cyn
(1016) Blaise: Good thing I had a hint that was coming. Looks pretty real to me... But you had to pick MY old local paper to spoof? :-)
(991) Wormy: Thanks for the 12 Days of Christmas nod. I abbreviated it a bit for space limitations. Didn't want to have a major post. Of course I could have posted 12 times like someone we know. :-)
(1000) Mu: Priceless! Laughed so hard when I saw it. :-)
z/x: From several posts ago. (I don't feel like trying to find it now). After months of listening to you put this thing together YOU DID NOT PLAY BABYLON SISTERS? Talk about majorly disappointed. :-(
Oh and don't send Dr. Warren K out to my coast. Ack!
Did anyone notice the interesting line in the SD Newsletter (TM) regarding the awards evenings? Got to be Walter's touch. Public Floggings, indeed.
"a link to the "News" page
(on which you will find items
and photos from the Public Floggings of '01,
e.g. the Grammys, Hall of Fame, Berklee --
and more)"
No wonder we might not get a new album until late '02, if ever. Who would want to work so hard and then have to go to all those events, listening to people telling them how great they are. Kind of blows the "bad boy" image they try so hard to project. :-)
Minus the Newsletter, Santa did not bring me any Steely stuff this holiday, but he did give us some very old Secret Agent DVD's. We wanted to see what The Prisoner looked like when he was a Secret Agent. The shows are in Black and White, which freaked out my little one. (But mom, where is the color?)
very good B
apart from the fact there booked to play the FA cup final in Cardiff that day...lol
This just in...
Y'all draw your own conclusions now, yo all big people, right?
Ahem...
Reporting from somewhere North-West of Jalalabad,
ß
wormy -- By drugs I meant to say pharmacuticals and they are by no means and panacea to mental illness nor is therapy but rather one or the other or a combination. But I think that someone that cuts off their ear and gives it as a gift to someone probably has a chemical imbalance that needs a little correction (or a lot).
But what the world needs more than both of these is better communication skills taught at younger and younger age. So instead of therapists we have friends and if your child doesn't seem to be socializing with the rest of the children in his/her class maybe it's because he or she doesn't seem to have anything intellectually or emotionally in common with the others and consider testing the child for another grade. If this becomes a problem later on consider reversing the process. This is one of the reasons public school system isn't working well.
Our Victorian valued society is another. But that's another subject.
XOXOX
Dragon
Hell one and all, hope you had a wonderful Christmas/holiday!
Finally getting into the vacation swing of things. Started the day with a run on the beach and wound up taking off my watch and just watching the waves. Not having any place to be is a great feeling I haven't enjoyed in quite a while.
Dr. Mu-I sent you an e-mail-did you get it or has your address been changed again?
Good to see you again, Herm!
St. Al-lovebob said you would be in San Diego this April. Any truth to that rumor?
Swirl to you, Wonderworm!
Back to kicking back,
Aja
I just came back from the local used record store around here and was surprised to see a CD by Rob Mounsey and the Flying Monkey Band there.
It was 18 bucks so I didn't pick it up (I bought 6 jazz LPs for 8 bucks- 2 without record covers!), but I went to the AMG and was amazed to find RM had worked for every pop act from the last 2 decades!
His horn arrangements on Gaucho sounded a little cheesey, but effective for the tunes. I liked Tom Scott's stuff better, but does anyone have any of Mounsey's Flying Monkey Band CDs or the 2 CDs he did with Steve Khan?
The AMG called his stuff New Age, but that's usually a pretty broad category. What does his stuff sound like? Is it any good?
Doctor Warren Kruger just took the first plane for the Left Coast (he left me a bunch of behaviour changing scrips for deludin) to welcome Arthur Lee back to civilian life, after serving a 6 year jail sentence
for shooting a gun up in the air at a neighbor who told him to lower his stereo. Doctor Warren Kruger has treated a number of disaffected rock stars such as Neil Young and Brian Wilson and was able to get them back on their collective feet again, but this time he's really got his work cut out for him.
Those one or two of you who followed the mid-60s Psychedelic LA rock scene might remember "Forever Changes", the album by Lee's band called LOVE. Here's some of the lyrics from this 1967 LP which Lee both wrote and sung:
"Oh the snot has caked upon my pants,
It has turned into crystal"
and
"Sitting on a hillsi-ide,
Watching all the people die.
I'd feel much better on the other
Side (or hitch a ride)"
Lee was an African-American from Memphis who did some early R&B recordings with Jimi Hendrix and wound up forming a band with Bryan McLean (a Byrds roadie)called LOVE.
The songs he and McLean wrote were very unusual, featuring Lee's British-sounding falsetto and odd-sounding chord progressions which (although not as "jazzy" as SD's)somehow made chords like F# sound natural in a song in C major.
Lee and the rest of the band refused to leave LA to tour and he even turned down the chance to appear in the Monterey Pop Festival of 1967, seemingly due to Lee's growing paranoia.
They all became junkies and Lee claimed to take LSD every day for a year and they were all too fucked up to play any instruments on the "Forever Changes" album so members of Phil Spector's "Wrecking Crew" were called in for the first 2 cuts.
They were so demoralized by this, that they picked up their little guitars, bass and drums and finished the rest of the LP themselves.
The guitarist and the drummer wound up in jail for robbing a number of little LA roadside doughnut stands and the band fell apart.
Lee tried to make a comeback several times afterwards, but only succeeded in making one decent LP in all the years that passed, and finally wound up in jail on that weapons charge.
We shall see if Doctor Warren Kruger can resurrect Arthur Lee's music career.
Chat is down and apparently my site and email are attached to the same server, I'm going nuts not being able to check my email.
Ohhh i forgot don't forget the rush for 2112
He's coming he's in the trees ...lol
God bless Kate's bush
I have had short hair longer than i had long hair & it was longer than that that MS rotfl
Only kidding 1066 coming up fast as you like
..... KEEP TALKING.....
Hey Midnight --
I saw in one of your photos a lurker ... with shears ...
He's coming for your hair !!! Oh no, a hairless Midnight !!!
The horror. What will Shirl think?
Snip! Snip! Rip! Shread !!! Ouch !!!
Steveedan
sorry forgot D&L in chat now
Well done Mu lurking there for hours ? how many
1000 goes to you
Me... i've got my eye on 1066 & 1984
I love the internet i'm watching big brother now
Money that's a good name for a song..lol
Duncan--
It's later than you think !!!
Go to sleep. Don't make Linda mad. She'll ...
And Mu --- Step away from the computer. Real life awaits you, no, it's already left.
See you at post 2000, or maybe post 1111, or maybe post 1234, I know you will still be sitting at your terminal. It's that terminal.
Ok, off to practice. Happy Holidays everyone.
Steveedan
*hehehe*....Steveedan....you got sniped by µ
I figured either Duncan or µ for # 1000!
just like a last second snipe on eBay....gotta love it! *lol*
Dohhh!!!
Hey Moo -- and I mean this will all the love in my heart ...
FUCK YOU.
LOVE
STEVEEDAN
Here it is !!!
THE GIGA-POST
If I had a joke to put here, it could be called the Giggle-post.
Later Y'all
Steveedan
Kablooie!!
1
2
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Duncan, W1P's version of Sheep is awesome (we exise the revised Lord's Prayer). If you want to hear someone going over the edge, listen to "Bike" Shine on you crazy diamond!
let's see
Last day
christening
christmas day
what's left you ask
Why it's young Dan's birthday tomorrow
(ref dragon: Daniel Luke Seymour Butterfield)
when will all this fun end i ask you...
Ref Echoes again i'm transported back years , Only owning Pulse i'm hereing the studio versions for the first time..
Like after AIA...fantastic & a bonus the cover tracks are easy to read the songs i've been hearing for years i know now the names of.
Sheep 7 sorrow + learning to fly my partic fav's today
Much SD festive thankfullness for the newsletter who say's there's no Sanity Claus...
db
echoes
Good old Santa..
he brought me echoes
what fun we had around the table this year
January 17, 2002 @ BB Kings, New York City will feature "Beatlejam" performed by Blue Floyd, Vince Welnick and The Machine. Below is the explanation for this performance:
The Inspiration
Following the terrible events of Sept. 11, I found myself unable to do much of anything productive for many days. I ate, slept and watched the unending coverage – with a combination of heartbreak for those lost in the tragedy, and for my own ‘innocence’ of a sort, also lost..
A newscaster (I forget who exactly), commented on the universality of emotions … exultation for the displays of heroism … and grief - a human experience shared by all of us – here, as Americans … & others … from around the world. I was particularly touched by that … and by something said regarding the propensity for people to turn to eating ‘comfort food’ in times of crisis. How true that was/is!
Then, I wondered, what constitutes comfort food for those of us that live, breathe & love music? The answer for me was immediate and undeniable … but I chose to call/ email many friends & colleagues for their opinions. The response from all was exactly the same: THE BEATLES! Was it a harkening back to childhood (I was 9 when the lads exploded on the world’s stage), or was it something deeper?
In actuality, it was both. Not simply because they started IT ALL – this revered rock music of hours … nor because they were brilliant AND accessible at the same time. Also, because their debut healed the other late 20th century American tragedy and loss of innocence: The assassination of John Kennedy.
Regardless of generation or specific musical genre of interest … jazz, folk, country or classical – I have never met anyone who didn’t love THE BEATLES. They are part of us … perhaps more than we know.
The Background
Though their music has been covered by Artists, both legendary & unknown ad infinitum … despite an abundance of cover bands, tribute shows & tribute recordings that go back 20 years … despite their continuation of a sort through solo recordings, posthumous compilations, outtakes and the like … an amazing musical legacy left to us to treasure for eternity … they also left us with a hole in our musical souls. We always had the notion - a collective rock & roll fantasy - of the lads reuniting … despite all logic to the contrary.
THE BEATLES performed live, between 1964 & 1966, when the technology for sound projection was so primitive, most of what was heard was the screams of ecstatic fans, drowning out the music That is truly a pity. Their later recordings were so amazingly orchestrated, they felt incapable of performing the material they were composing – choosing instead to share these beloved songs through the medium of film. Their last album, “Let It Be” was accompanied by an impromptu performance on the roof of Apple Records in London, attended by a few friends. Ironically, those compositions were perhaps best suited to actual ensemble performance … what we have come to know as ‘jamming.’
But – then they were done - to live their lives … raise families – seek their own, individual paths, musically & spiritually. Who could blame them, following so many years in the fishbowl? Can you imagine the pressure of being a BEATLE - Of having to project genius on each & every recording? We expected so much of them, & in the end they delivered the goods, for “the love you take IS equal to the love you make.”
After 9/11, I determined to apply my own humble resources to put together a series of shows, showcasing the music of THE BEATLES in the format of the genre that best represents their sense of fun, virtuosity & improvisation … what has come to be called ‘the jam band’ scene. Hence, “BEATLEJAM.”
In this cynical age of style over musical substance … Brittany & boy bands, mass marketing & mega-production … I prefer to hear great musicians jam the music of THE BEATLES. “BEATLEJAM” is about the love of THEIR music, performed by virtuoso musicians.
Musical comfort food … indeed!
Michael Gaiman, Producer/ Dec. 2001
Postscript …
Whilst composing my thoughts for this press release/presentation/background info on “BEATLEJAM,” our beloved George Harrison (my favorite Beatle), passed away following a valiant, dignified bout with cancer. Everything about George spoke dignity, class & above all – musical genius. He appeared on records by Jack Bruce & the late Harry Nilsson as “L’Angelo Mysterioso” belying both a great sense of humor & humility. One of his publishing company was called “Harrisongs,” and for George & those that love his music (especially ME!) we’ll devote a segment of “BEATLEJAM” to him.
965 social herm - glad you could drop in
as you can see this place is back to normalacy after the spam wars of the fall
990 - Midnite - at least the new technology is easier to transfer copies around, have fun with doc-ing the memories, these make a nice gift too!
988 auss - Mulholland Drive, thank Malc and say hello, a fine film
well the first 7/8
(movie tip - catch Lord of The Rings - better than I ever would have expected)
987 - Blaise - yes the Dan 02 tour depends on an early release date
I say it's coming out in late October and no 02 tour
980 - Jim# - dramatic comeback of the GB
then again we need a new jimbo jingle, please ;-)
979 - dr mu
can you play the TaN DVD-A in a conventional DVD player?
My dac does 24/96 input, 24/192 output, would love to get a higher sampling rate. why would anyone want 5.1 for a dan record????
the plush 5.1 is a nightmare, at least the stereo version is great
978 angel - you made my day with that 5 days of Christmas
977 dragon - vincent, great song
try Lust For Life by Irving Stone - a classic on Van Gogh's passion
and what's all this crap about behavior modifiying drugs
isn't life enough of a drug in and of itself???
off to go live it
banyan swirl to gina, chere and aja
brother worm tom
and a Happy Boxing Day to all our friends north of the border.
I get to install all the electronic goodies today....a CD-RW in Shirl's computer, she's tired of transfering via the network to mine to burn CD's....the USB Instant DVD on my computer for video editing and transferring all my old VHS camcorder tapes to CD's that will even play back on my set top DVD player hooked up to the television....I may even start shooting some short subjects on video now that I have a good way to edit them.....a new USB optical mouse from Microsoft to replace my old one....and we'll finally replace this archaic scanner with a new USB model with twice the resolution and twice the bit depth....busy, busy, busy.....lots of family pics to scan that I got from my sister....pics of great grandparents that were long dead when I was born....lots of pics of us growing up....should be a fun little project....guess I'd better get to it! Hope most of you have the day off and get to enjoy it....don't go to the mall today unless you're a ruthless, battle hardened shopper....not for the faint of heart!
we're getting close to the magic # 1000 post.....who will it be???
and a Happy Boxing Day to all our friends north of the border.
I get to install all the electronic goodies today....a CD-RW in Shirl's computer, she's tired of transfering via the network to mine to burn CD's....the USB Instant DVD on my computer for video editing and transferring all my old VHS camcorder tapes to CD's that will even play back on my set top DVD player hooked up to the television....I may even start shooting some short subjects on video now that I have a good way to edit them.....a new USB optical mouse from Microsoft to replace my old one....and we'll finally replace this archaic scanner with a new USB model with twice the resolution and twice the bit depth....busy, busy, busy.....lots of family pics to scan that I got from my sister....pics of great grandparents that were long dead when I was born....lots of pics of us growing up....should be a fun little project....guess I'd better get to it! Hope most of you have the day off and get to enjoy it....don't go to the mall today unless you're a ruthless, battle hardened shopper....not for the faint of heart!
we're getting close to the magic # 1000 post.....who will it be???
Back from Christmas celebrations with family (although technically for us, the holidays extend into January 6th for the Three Kings festivities)...a tad exhausted with all the food, egg nog and what have you.....always good to have entire family together.
Speaking with our own Malcolm Hunter this morning...he recommended I go see David Lynch's latest effort "Mulholland Drive"...so while we chatted about the coming new year's parties/events, etc. I went to cheque out a review online about Mr. Lynch's new film....a critique piece penned by Chris Willman from Entertainment Weekly makes mention of Steely Dan: "Chris Willman of EW explains David Lynch's latest pretzel logic thriller......with apologies to Steely Dan, I would venture to say that there IS such a thing as pretzel logic......"
Hope everyone is enjoying the holidays....
Aus
re: Folds. It can appear a little wimpy, upon the few first first listens with very little soloing involved, yes. Little guitars, the instrumental breaks usually being handled economically by the keys, if and when appropriate.
Me too Cruiser, I fought the law but the law won... argh
Album of the year since, you're right, it was voted in by at least three senior members and around here that makes it law, I suppose. There was little debate.
re; SD Newsletter. Considering Grammy sweep = bargaining power = fresh money - new record = Freedom 55, perhaps?, "slew" of songs + recording sessions ß
another Christmas draws to a close....nice visit with family....watching all the kids open their goodies and playing was a blast....sleeping in late this morning was wonderful after all the overtime we've been working.....got to see "A Christmas Story" on TNT this morning....Ralphie got his Red Ryder BB gun again this year....glad to see Christmas come, glad to see it go....looking forward to getting back to some sense of normalcy in life....until New Year's Eve I guess! only Steely note for this year was the newsletter from the Drone in my inbox this morning....good to see we're getting back on track in the world of Steely Dan. seems Ben Folds is the odds on favorite here on the GB for album of the year....I'm enjoying it but my personal pick for album of the year goes to Train for the Drops of Jupiter album.....it just speaks to me more than Ben Folds does....guess it's my roots thingy ole....Merlefest coming up in April....lots of good performers....we're on vacation that week and thinking about checking it out....if you're interested, you can check out the website at: www.merlefest.org hope everyone had a safe and joyful day....we're gonna close the books on this one and kick back on the couch just to drift off into a peaceful slumber....hope y'all had a nice day today.
angel -- actually my Holiday did involve a little Steely flavor. Finally "Alive in America" has been returned to my collection. It's been three and a half years since I've heard any version of "Sign In Stranger". It was so nice, it should really be bliss to hear it on headphones without the distractions of someone talking over it. I hope tomorrow finds you all with no returns, no calls to customer service with a plea to compensate you for your inconvience, or wondering how that gift you got can come to a short but believable and convienent end, in short I hope you are happy with your gifts of the season whatever the reason you celebrate. Sincerely,
Well, here it is, another Christmas and I'm still all alone in this dark, dank basement apartment with this gosh darn otterhound.
Ferrell is so 'Old School' Will Ferrell and Vince Vaughn are in final talks to join Luke Wilson in the DreamWorks comedy "Old School," according to The Hollywood Reporter. The film is described as being about three men -- Wilson, Ferrell, and Vaughn -- who are fed up with life handing them lemons and decide to try to recapture the joy of their college days. Under the direction of Todd Phillips ("Road Trip"), the comedy is described as being in the same vein as "Animal House." "Old School" is written by Phillips and Scot Armstrong, and will be produced by Phillips, Tom Pollock, and Ivan Reitman. Production begins January 7 in Los Angeles.
Lorraine Feather, who Walter plugged in the newsletter, sounds like she could be a member of one of my wife's favorite groups, The Four Bitchin Babes - at least in the song "You're Outa Here" which can be downloaded from http://lorrainefeather.com/nycdrag.html.
Ho Ho Ho, Merry Christmas!!!!!!! Beside being with my family today, my best gift yet - A NEW EDITION OF THE STEELY DAN NEWSLETTER IS OUT TODAY!!!!!!!!! Check your "inbox"...!
Morning Seasons Greetings to All. A very hectic and strife filled year draws to a close with the dramatic (!) comeback of the Guestbook. An underused website that was swept away by a tide of terrible September events which deserves another look: http://www.berklee.edu/html/ab_commwebcast.html Remember the day, and draw close to those you love. Thanks for a terrific year, friends on the GB.
HoHoHo! 'Tis the season of giving. Hope you were able to participate as our family did. It's worthy to note that giving is traditionally across the board in America. Infact, the 50% with lesser incomes give a higher % of their incomes to charity than the upper 50%... The Two Against Nature DVD-A contains BOTH stereo (2-channel) and 5.1 DTS!! Now, one must program your DVD-A upon insertion of said DVD-A to match your home audio system. This can be done easily though by using your TV monitor and the up/down & back/forward buttons (of the TV setcion of you remote control) as well as possibly the audio play button (at least for me) to start a chosen selection. After the DVD-A loads, the main menu is displayed on your TV monitor. Options include playlist surround, playlist stereo, photo gallery (worth a look), also by Steely Dan, and project credits. Scroll and select! I've noticed that for both DVD-As and DVD-Vs that are endowed with 5.1 DTS, the default setting seems to be the 5.1 (can't guarantee this is a standard though). So make sure you program your desired setting first. The stereo mode takes full advantage of the 192kHz sampling rate while the DTS 5.1 allows the surround sound at a sampling rate of 192 kHz/3 = 64 kHz, but with the surround experience. The extra dynamic range (160 dB vs. about 95 dB) and 3.36 times higher sampling rate than CDs in the DVD-A stereo mode result in a much deeper, more detailed, and warmer sound than even the best CDS (read: Two Against Nature). The Immortal has done himself proud...Also the DVD-A itself is green, as planned, instead of the orange CD color maligned in the ODP. Also, one can gaze at the liner note photos for each song on the TV monitor as one listens to each selection... The stockings are hung...Merry Christmas to all!
St. Al: Good to see tradition dies hard at your house, too. Up at angel's house is a traditional Italian Christmas Eve Dinner. Angel Hair pasta with seafood sauce (stuffed calamari and mussels), Fried shrimp (2 kinds, breadcrumb and flour) and a large salad. Plenty of vino for the adults, though we don't do the g___ red anymore. :-) LP: Hilltop Steakhouse in Saugus? Is that where you get your food? Now, a fast wish to all. I hope that if gifts are being exchanged in the next, or past few days, may they have a Dan flavor to them. On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me... On the 2nd day of Christmas my true love gave to me... On the 3rd day of Christmas my true love gave to me... On the 4th day of Christmas my true love gave to me... On the 5th day of Christmas my true love gave to me...
Happy Anniversery to half of everyone! Roy.Scam -- yes, indeed on the driving songs and very funny Santa letter. Happy Belated Winter Solstice. Merry Christmas. z -- sorry to hear that you didn't get to play BS. Midnite Cruiser -- Magnificent photograph of the trees. Duncan -- so is Dan a true Dan or a Daniel? Dano -- Deliverance is a great movie! But it did make for a bit of a weird scene for me years later when I was watching the movie Bugsy. When it came to the scene where "Bugsy" has some guy on all fours and is twisting his ear and telling him, "Squeal like a pig"! I start laughing because it reminds me of ... anyway I'm sure that the rest of the people in the theatre thought I was nuts. Bill -- Your post of Vincent's Ear reminded me of another song about Vincent Van Gogh, this poor man definately needed some of the drugs or similiar stuff that the people on this board and/or the lurkers are taking. Vincent as sung by Don McLean. It doesn't say anywhere on my CD who wrote the song...but this is off of Don McLean's American Pie Vincent Starry, starry night Now I understand Dragon
To All Celebrating Christmas....Have a Merry One. Serving Beef Tenderloin and Bacon Wrapped Shrimp Done to perfection on the Weber for a party of 10. Always extra for drop-ins here at Rancho Moore. Peace, David
an innocent man in a radio hell . . . my favorite local station has apparently given the staff lots of time off for the holidays. of course, nothing wrong with that except that as substitute programming they're piping in a god awful syndicated holiday music show where the dj just proclaimed "sitting around the Christmas tree and listening to Kenny G, nothing beats that". before i turn the dial, good tidings to everyone in GB land, especially to those fellow denizens of the Commonwealth, Roy, Hutch (you still out there?), and MC/Opti--watch your email for an ode on the mystical powers of Nickel Creek.
Merry Xmas to all you Guys & Gals over there in the US of A!!, and the same greetings to my fellow Dan fans in OZ!!. All the best!!.......Ausie Lew!
jjeff....no aspens around here....a few birches....those were white oaks, poplars, maples and a few assorted others....just the way the light hit them that makes them look so pale....so what's the scoop with the juniper? we don't let the cats out (except occasionally on the back deck, which they can't get off of)....does it get them high like catnip?....hope you're staying warm up there and have a good night tonight and a better day tomorrow! St.Al...can I have a Zantac and a serving of that? sounds delicious! I'm gonna show Shirl the recipe when she gets home and see if she wants to try to whip up a batch sometime....my culinary skills are limited to cold cereal and microwave popcorn....all the best to you, Jamie, Stella Rae and the extended fam. it's not Christmas until I can see "A Christmas Story"....my all time favorite holiday movie....I can really relate to Ralphie as a kid growing up wanting that BB gun....good thing TNT is running it for 25 hours straight! I should be able to catch it at some point! guitarnuts....CNN is airing a piece on Paul Reed Smith on Moneyline with Lou Dobbs this evening at 6pm ET....previews looked interesting! back to a little Christmas music and finish wrapping presents....almost time for the little lady to get home from work....I think I could get into this "house husband" role! *lol*....reality will set in on January 2nd though....back to the grind. Happy Holidays to all....be safe, have fun, enjoy family, eat 'til you can't stand it....get ready to do it again next weekend! later y'all MC
sitting here wrapping presents for the little nieces and nephews for tomorrow....while wrapping some Barbie crap I happened to think of this e-mail I got a couple of weeks ago and thought I'd share it....scroll on by if you're not interested: At long last, here are some NEW Barbie dolls to coincide with her and OUR aging gracefully. These are a bit more realistic.… 4. Flabby Arms Barbie - Hide Barbie's droopy triceps with these new, roomier-sleeved gowns. Good news on the tummy front, two Moo Moos with tummy-support panels are included. 11. Post-Menopausal Barbie - This Barbie wets her pants when she sneezes, forgets where she puts things, and cries a lot. She is sick and tired of Ken sitting on the couch watching the tube, clicking through the channels. Comes with Depends and Kleenex. As a bonus this year, the book "Getting In Touch with Your Inner Self" is included.
happry christmas too all
hey all - merry christmas everyone! yesterday i finished up my shopping, wow, the crowds on us route 1 were a sight to be a part of off to cambridge for a christmas eve dinner menu for christmas dinner here in the burbs: prime rib from hilltop on us route 1 pumpkin cheesecake for dessert love to all - thanks for the cyber greetings gina, nmn and dano and thanks to snakehips for my card
What ever you guys are celebrating over the ponds from UK to Australia to USA hope you all have a Dooser of a Holiday and a Happy Hogmany. Regards Dano and Family.
Must post MC:Beautiful tree shot. Looks like aspen and birch. I love how aspen keep their leaves way into the winter. Try bringing some juniper into the house. The cats will go nuts, unless... I just remembered. You let your cats out, don't you? Peace, and just a reminder... one man does not represent a nation.
W1P: I'll be in LA April 9th, 10th and 11th... Seriously. More about that one Here's what's on the menu at StAl's house this evening. - Sauce (gravy) God I love Christmas! Here's wishing everyone a fantastic holiday.
OK St Al -- next time you're in LA (and W1P is playing), its 2 free W1P passes for you.
Hey Everyone, I know I haven't posted in a very long time, (in fact, this is the first time I've posted since the new page layout, so that tells you right there). But I just wanted to jump in and yell a hearty Merry Christmas, a joyous New Year and an overall fantastic Holiday Season to All! This gb has provided me with much fun in the past. Along with much anxiety, frustration and heartbreak. To all of the old timers that remember me ~ thanks! And to all the newbies who have no clue who the hell I am ~ hope you enjoy your stay here. Long Live Dan, Jazz, Big Band, Frank Sinatra, Bing Crosby, The Marx Brothers, and Bobby Sherman! Ho Ho Ho! Sociable Hermit
Last night at the New York State Theatre in Lincoln Centre Babes and I did our yearly ritual (same seats every year, orchestra second row centre; same day every year, Christmas Eve Eve) and had our bottle of champagne by the fountain outside the theatre and the Christmas tree and took in George Ballanchine's The Nutcracker Ballet. As ususal, the look on the kids faces makes it all worth it year after year; their eyes just light up like light bulbs. The performance is always magical, and for us its really become something really special that we look forward to year after year.......ended up at The River Cafe in Brooklyn to dine with a spectacular Manhattan skyline just across the Hudson River.....even with the conspicuous absence of the World Trade Centre in the bright night skyline, it's still a radiant a beautiful city....but a real sense of sadness is still pervasive in spite of every effort to be cheerful this time of year.... God bless, and kiss and hug someone you love tonight... Aus
Cubensis = mushrooms -- the good kind.
What happened to Peter North? I really miss his interesting and insightful posts to this message board. Anybody know where he posts now?
Vermont/New Hampshire -- close enough for west coast govt work
A pulbic service announcement from W1P: Subj: "Floydian Slip" songlist #317 (Dec. 23) 1. Sorrow/Pulse For a key to the album title acronyms used on this list, see the Floydian Order the FLOYDIAN SLIP T-SHIRT at http://www.floydianslip.com/t-shirt.htm To have your email address added/removed to/from this mailing list, send
Dano, Floydian Slip is also the name of a very well respected Floyd radio show run by Craig Bailey out of New Hampshire (I think). There is a song called One Slip on Momentary Lapse of Reason. I just returned from seeing Dead tribute band Cubensis (two free W1P passes for the first person to correctly post the meaning of Cubensis). W1P
another nice song... "Vincents Ear" And no one understands People suspect a secret Time can't erase the image
no it was not was not was
....I am now in total agreement that Bernie "Pretty" Perdie didnt join Dan until later (1976/Royal scam era).....I was wrong on that count....HOWEVER,I believe more than ever that my Aniton interpretation is accurate...The band clearly had the famed L.A. studio drummer in the pipeline and he just plain refused to play live.....All I can do is BESEECH you to listen ONE MORE TIME, because he says "BERNIE..PERDIE..Little "Pretty one" missed out... HAW!!!!!!!!!!
O.K. First of all,Im not a true Dan fan, but my buddy and I have recently "rediscovered" the now legendary Aniton 7/74 intro to Bhodissatvah,which EVERYONE thinks is mere incoherent rambling BUT IT IS NOT !!!! It is a complete rail against studio drumer Bernie "pretty" Purdie (you can tell the little ole "pretty" one that he missed out ) The drummer in concert,Jim Hodder, IS "Mr. Whatever" ,who IS here tonight. Aniton naturally doesn't know HIS name because at the time Purdie was their primary drummer and the late Jim Hodder was a relative unknown. Mr. Whatever (i.e. "the magnificent one" "the one and only one") gets exaggerated praise("he gonna get down tonight " "he gonna get widdit"),as the little ole "Purdie" one is being lightly mocked for not playing live.......With each reference to all this,Hodder plays little drum riffs to indicate his agreement,as a musical"response" to Aniton......This whole interpretation is CRYSTAL clear,when Aniton says Mr. Steely Dan AND whatever (read:Hodder) There are all kind of other references too(for example,we have reason to believe Purdie lived in Watts at the time).If you have any interest in helping me explore this such as helping me contact any of the principals(Aniton,Purdie,or even Fagen/Becker) please let me know.
MC- Yeah, that stuff has been known to cause heart side f/x- hope Zlft. is cool with you.
Dano: It's My Life and especially the most brilliant transition album I can name Colour of Spring are catchy and errie works... Tim-Friese Greene (sp) helped to write more complete thoughts. COS works as both art and pop, before they went over the abyss into Eden. They became what Yoko wanted to be - avante-guardsman with a white canvas OR simply the effects of drugs and depression - you decide. Bartok meets Kraftwork on Qualuudes. Laughing Stock is a more jazzy and listenable bersion of Eden... and if you can explain Mark Hollis' solo album...anyway, I'm sure most Greatest Hits would include Talk Talk, It's My Life, Dum Dum Girl, Such a Shame, Happiness is Easy, I Don't Believe in You - great stuff.
Yo Dano..aye....... Mission Impossible innit?
Hey hey hey Y'All --- Z of X -- That was a great "grad school of music" treatise of Babylon Sisters. I actually understood almost all of it without going to the keyboard, which I still have to set up today (Sunday) as I have some practicing to do. What I wanted to tell you is that recently I met a great professional guitarist/arranger who used to study under Dick Grove (the Grove Academy). While he was studying there he used to grade the various classes arranging assignments. One thing that he told me about the music of Steely Dan (and, really, about all music in general) is that everything (according to Dick Grove) can be expressed as a function (straight-away or via substitutions) of the universal "ii-V-I" progression. Coincidentally, he showed me how this could work in Babylon Sisters. I do not have the notes to write about it here, unfortunately. Now, I have a few comments about your great, incisive examination of Babylon Sisters. ... In the verse, the Bbm-Cm-Dm is a modal chord movement. To my ear, by the time you get to the third "parallel" chord in a phrase, you could literally go anywhere. Either back to Bbm or to stay in Dm, or go to Eb - all places the boys go harmonically in the song. I love the aural effect of having the wide open choice - like the way they create that effect in this song. Just brilliant. In the "Here come those Santa Ana winds again (bad news)" section with all of those Eb chords, check out the last 4 of those chords before it moves on to the Bbm to set up the 2nd Verse. It is sort of like the theme from The Twilight Zone. I have mentioned this before. The use of famous themes is a great "tongue-in-cheek" effect. Keith Emerson of ELP used to do this a lot. Doing this challenges the listener to know his stuff in order to gain more meaning out of the song. The greats can do this without being obvious and the listener can enjoy the music whether he/she gets it or not. And how about the half-step shift with the "super-tonic" chord motion? I am refering to the Intro where it's E - F#/E, then later in the Chorus "Babylon Sisters shake it", over the words "shake it" you've got Eb - F/Eb. Then in the Outro section of the song the chord progression alternates between Eb - F/Eb and G/F - F to the song's conclusion. By the way, I like the live ending for Babylon Sisters that I lifted from the Plush DVD where the song ends on the Ab chord. I have no idea what you should call it (Howard ?!?) The voicing is from (bottom to top note): Ab / Gb-Bb-C-F. This Ab chord has that same half-step relationship with the A7(b5) that is used both in the Intro and also just before the Choruses. It seems to me that this song could be a whole study course on Modern Harmony all by itself. I'd LOVE to hear what Clas thinks about all of this !!! (Howard ?!?) On a different subject, one of my favorite songs for the car is Yes' rendition of America by Simon and Garfunkle. Specifically the version on the Keys To Ascension CD. Check out Steve Howe. Awesome soloing. Alright, enough, my brain is bleeding. Have a safe and wonderful holiday season everyone.
Have a Safe & Merry Christmas and a successful, healthy and peaceful 2002. Hello all to all my Dan pals around the globe. Have a great Christmas with your famlies. Catch you in the new year or as I affectionally keep telling you............"see you when your bum cracks"
Dosen't get much better than this. Many thank's to all who no who for everything p.s. just remembered who Julie is.. Happy Christmas Fezo ... toss another prawn on the barbie for me & Mine
Hey people whats happenin?? Now there i am waiting in Q at the record store and two of my mates say Dano what you buying man , and there I am with S Club 7 , Now 50 , and Westlife?? Shit that is bad news Benson especially as they know i love the Dan , Did i take some stick or what?? They didnt take into account of santa and all that ? so now credibility gone down the pan. So, Only two days to Only Fools And Horses. Dunc , wet the wains heed fir me mate.Regards Dano. Midnite , Is that a Wendy hoose or what?? I"m never gonna watch Deliverance again thats for sure. That is such a neat wee hoose. Have a dooser of a xmas too mate. Any of the UK mob catch Glenn Tilbrook on Radio 2 last night?? Talks a lot of sense that boy?? Been muellered for about two weeks now and still doing the rounds??Since I turned 47 I"m like a man on a mission, Dancin wae au the young team and trying to capture lost youth.Be glad when i can rest for a bit......but need to party on ...... Santa is bringing me the best of Talk Talk to remember me of the old days......Also the best song for driving still has to be Stay With Me by the Faces with Babar O"reilly a close second?? TWM , Do yae still think yae can catch us Bigman?? WIP , Dan , great name for a local band playing last night . They where called "A Floydian Slip" made me crease up that one?? Off to see Lord Of...........with the wee man. Regards Danahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
quick note wishing you and your's a wonderful and blessed Christmas driving music? Heijira is always along on a long trip (hi Cara Mia Marsha) got my head in the sky wormy
Happy Hannukwanzamas everyone!
z....imipramine gave me terrible heart palpatations....had my ecg all screwed up....celexa seemed to work for awhile, then lose effectiveness....glad ya found one that works well with minimal side effects....long history of skewed chemistry here....it's a fine line, a very fine line.....sorry, little Stevie Winwood flashback there. *lol* Face....we both use Herbal Essence....we were Pantene heads for years but finally kicked our habit....all those moaning orgasm commercials that Herbal Essence has finally got the best of us. who will post # 1000 be??? I'm taking bets.
MC- I've been on imipramine (brand name deludin) for 11yrs- added a little celexa a few yrs. ago to clear out some other little "cobwebs on me brain."
Jim and Shirl, great Christmas greetings! But I must ask, which of you uses Suave and which uses the more expensive shampoo? LOL Midnight Cruiser, fabulous photo of the trees. Thank you for sharing. Chere, hope your holiday has chilled out and the family is taking better care of themselves. You've done your part. Come back to us here and share more of your generous JuJu vibes, we'll give you the lighter side. Bill, lovely song, absolutely lovely, thank you! Cyn is recuperating from southern hospitality. She and Mr & Mrs Jim# covered alot of territory in a very short span of time, and there were even some rocks left unturned, you guys just have to try harder next time! Monsieur B: vous etes correct, respect merite le respect. Je vous respecte ici, pas la dans Amen. La vie est bonne, et nous sommes meilleurs, aucun mal, aucun fetide, aucuns points. Again, to all present and accounted for (or still lurking): Joyeux Noel
If any of you would like to communicate better with your http://members.tripod.com/~thisthat/slang.html Cri-key! It's alot t'learn! The man from Bullamanka
Duncan....congrats to young Dan....and to you & Linda! z.....which AD are you using now? I think I've run the gamut and seem to have settled on zoloft....works well for PA's also. Steveedan....as I hope you'll be able to see on the corrected Season's Greetings card, Shirl's hair is quite a bit longer than mine now! Roy....no Blair witches here! All our best to you and Myra Eyeful!! finally finished with the shopping madness....time to sit back and let it happen.
seems I forgot to close the brackets on one of the images on our Season's Greetings page so most of you probably didn't see the page as intended....if you'd like to have another look, just click on: sorry for the confusion! MC & Opti
Hey Dunk !!! Happy Christen-mas !!! Congrats to Dan and his Mother (hi Linda.)
Here's a repeated post from me (not that I could ever out-do Duncan in this department ...) To Lisa G., Howard, Clas (yes you man), Z of X, JayDubs, and all of the other musician-types out there (who come here) --- I was recently turned on to a great Steely Dan songbook. It is called "Just The Riffs - for Keyboard". It is only 10 Bucks. Someone has transcribed a lot of the keyboard solos and other signature parts in this book. I already can play these riffs, but I HAD TO BUY IT. I have been going through it and it is very accurate. It is not exactly accurate, but it is so close, that it's amazing. Those of you who play keyboards or sax should check this book out. It is about time that someone started to do accurate take-downs of this music and make it available to the mass public. For those of you who want to check out this book, or other recently published Steely Dan songbooks (there are around 10 NEW BOOKS OUT THERE !!!) go to the Hal Leonard website (I think it's www.halleonard.com, or search it in Google.com - that's how I found it). I have looked through 2 of these songbooks, and they are fairly accurate. These books will be a huge time-saver for those of you who like to "crack the code" like I do. There are also guitar books and anthologies. These books will allow a lot more people to play the great music of Steely Dan more accurately and much more easily. Alright. The piano lesson is over. Go out and play !!!
Christening day has arrived for Dan along with the snow..
I totally forgot that yesterday was the shortest day of the year. I had trouble getting on to the GB yesterday as well. Steviedan - The Todd Rungren/Tubes show was a benefit for some guy who was in prison (supposedly unjustly) and I remember they started out playing Elvis' Heartbreak Hotel, and The Who's Won't Get Fooled Again. The Todd songs that they played were Burned, Cliche, Real Man, Love For the Common Man, among others. Todd was great. Alot of people were emotionally (and otherwise) peaking during his performance. The guy I went to the show with snagged the show tape off of the mixing board (bad karma for this guy !) and made me a copy of it. It was pretty good, but it did not reproduce the amazing sensation that I felt experiencing the show first hand. Not even close. Midnight Cruiser - beautiful photos. Is your hair longer than Shirl's? (No response necessary - actually there is no reason for you to dignify this dumb remark really. Just kidding man.) Now that I have DSL, I tried to get "Radio Dandom" up and running. I had been unsuccessful with my 56K modem, but it is working, and in the first 15 minutes of listening, I heard a song that I MUST BUY! (Well, the whole CD really). It's Michael Brecker's rendition of Pat Metheny's "Song For Bilbao", which is one of my favorite Metheny (or should I say Lyle Mays) songs. I think "Bilbao" originally appeared on the "Travels" CD. I am not aware of this song being anywhere else in the Metheny catalog of CDs. That is a hard and fun song to play. It really moves. Z of X - Sorry to hear that the kids did not do Babylon Sisters. Maybe it was for the best. Keep us posted on the "BS" front. Did anyone notice that Mr. Sticks of the Steely Fan Band has plugged our next gig? Yeah, you all guessed it ... it's time for Steveedan's S H A M E L E S S P L U G G I N G ! ! ! The SFB will be playing at Hogue Barmichaels in Newport Beach, California next Saturday night, December 29th, at 9 PM. Clas --- stay home. (HA HA!) And also, Don't forget W1P's Which One's Pink? will be playing at the Anaheim House Of Blues in late January. This band kicks ASS !! Serious Floyd ASS !!! From my family to all of you and to all of yours -- Here's wishing you a healthy, happy, and wonderful holiday, and a prosperous New Year.
Well, the concert came and went without us playing BS unfortunately. There was only time for 1 tune at the first one and the 2nd one was just for the 9th graders, who hate anything that's any good musically, so I decided to hold off until the next one.
~Clas..that is a VOX Valvetronic modulating amp AD60 VT made in UK as you know.. AC15, AC15TB, AC30,AC30TB,UK BLUES,UK'70S,UK'80S,UK'90S,UK MODERN,UK RETRO oh and thanks about the hat, that is black velvet and leather, sort of a Renaissance style. A man makes and sells them and many others, here at the Portland Outdoor Market, which is under one of the many bridges, and is many artisans who have to pass strick quality tests to be allowed to sell there.. every weekend from April through to December every year...lovely stuff! eLLe: )
Such a nice song... "Crayon Sun" Purple clouds Crayon Sun above you Once inside You asleep in my arms under Crayon Sunlight
Gina it's snowing overhere in Holland.
Santa/Hannah Klaus: Howdy, welcome, and many thanks for the reminder. Already on the case--but always happy for more positive reinforcement. To whomever it may concern: Speaking just for this fan right here, I have nothing but praise, respect, and admiration for the labors of the Webdrone, and for the efforts of that person and the whole Steely Dan camp (including the Principals) to impart essential Dannish info to the world. Just sayin'. /the Mam'zelle
Two days and counting till Christmas, everyone here please have a safe and enjoyable holiday season. Snakie: thanks for the card hon!!!! (I am remiss in sending out cards this year, but you may get a return missive, god if I can only find two minutes to hand write something! lol) Blaiserooney: nope hon, it's not me 'flaming' ya, (this outspoken neighbor of a friend of a fan) not goin there with ya anymore dude, ask St. Al if you don't believe me. Merry Christmas
Dear Santa, Hank~ Happy belated anniversary. I too have been married 19 wonderful years (and 19 out of 27 ain't bad, (badoom, bop, purdie shuffle, tsssh, boom). Ducky~ Happy belated birthday. Buy yourself a present and send me the bill. Wokka, wokka. (Okay, even Fozzie has higher standards of humor than that.) Good Brubeck documentary on PBS Sunday. I think he said that, at one time, he could write music but couldn't read it. He's about 89 and still composing and performing. Many of his recent compositions are classical and devotional. Like your eyes, I like him too. Cruiser~ Are you sure you were'nt in rural Maryland looking for a witch when you took that photo? Other Good Driving Songs: Dew Drop Inn, Me and Bobby Mcgee, I Love L.A. (which even had a good driving video with a big nasty redhead by my side). Driving Songs For Older People: Fun Fun Fun, Maybelline, Hot Rod Lincoln, Little GTO. Ironically Bad Driving Song: "Drive" by the Cars. Unless you want to risk being arrested for going 4 miles per hour. Driving Songs to Avoid: Teen Angel, Transfusion, Tell Laura I Love Her, Leader of the Pack, Stuff Up the Cracks (by Zappa), Dead Man's Curve. Merry Christmas Children! ... I don't mean children in a scolding manner like a school teacher, but rather in an affectionate way, like when Ray Charles says, "Sing the song, children."
Did someone say that Walter had a Mac?..... (918)Santa: Great ideas. Just dropped off my husband at his workplace in the Skid Row area this morning. Such a sad thing to see all those people out on the streets of LA, cold and hungry. In comparison, my work location looks like the Taj Mahal and my area isn't all that great, either. Did you know that women and children are the largest growing segment of the population becoming homeless? (921) Clas: What are you talking about? I have no idea? Are you mixing me up with another Angel? Blaise: Regarding the Webdrone. I am used to being ignored and don't take it personally. But, Webdrone, if you decide to make an exception and tell us, that would be a very nice present, to us SD fans. Mele Kalikimaka. :-)
All kidding aside, whoever this may be, I am lead to lobby for exemplary punishment in this particular case. Following the webmaster's rather extensive efforts to avoid future occurences of unfair situations such as these. After two incidents of blatant disrespect for others, there are no doubts concerning the questionnable intentions of the culprit here.
Still awaiting lab results concerning Internet Protocol adress determination. Are we talking network node i.d., Proxy server or (bliss!) workstation network card MAC address? This most likely having been posted from culprit's work setting (Windows NT4), after all. In the meantime, we're still relying on that "ownership" angle giveaway as working theory, further evidence pending...
So. really, there are two I.D. possibilities here. One of them has to be ruled out judging from the overall poor syntax and limited vocabulary of the exhibit brought forth as evidence. Obviously, superb typing skills, at least thirty words a minute, following measurements... hmmm You're right, this Mystery Science Theater crap can be fun.
Do they get along usually or do you have to police these two? That's an unfair match to say the least there. It's kinda like me vs that feisty american-female-lurker-with-a-knack-for-anon-bile-spewing (that narrows it down, eh?) cat named "Flame" or whatever. Pompe has to hold back all zen-like just the same. grrr ;-) b
...wishes you all a belated happy solstice. George was right. Sometimes it really *is* all too much. peace your tzg
Angel - thanks! You're working fast! C
eLLe - I love the Fender and I like the hat. Is that Vox an AC 30 or AC 50? Blaise - I love that little Roman tune you're humming. dr Mu - when I get back to town I'll explain a few basic things for you. Cara Mia - will you still love me, when I get back to town? And let me be straight with ya grrrrrrrrlfriend; I have NEVER pissed on any ones Parade. Okay, maybe one, the 33rd Street Parade, Manhattan, but that was back in July 1980. From my room at the YMCA. Cyn - happy holidays! Say hallo, I'll be thinking of you. Angel - on your request, my little birdie, I have decided to delete that red awful Android Warehouse, my webdrone is inserting a more accurat one. If he aint doing that after the Christmas, would you please email him and tell him I am pissed? (I have no computer down at the Farm) If you will do that, I will send you a TEN EURO BILL! That's hard hard cash hon. Skully - right back at ya! Anneke - hoppsan sie eines spass gemachen. Zwo bier bitte! GINA! Viele dank for the year that has bin. Laden sie eines vermut gehabt? C
really enjoyed the road-tunes threadway. the way i recollect, i'm surprised that i didn't see any jazz or bluegrass other than st al's string cheese incident which is marginally bluegrass or the herb alpert & michael franks. weather report, metheny, a barrelin' big band like 70s buddy rich, some tony rice pickin' or even some african soukous or indian film music have the rhythmic ostinatos that make the journey flow. my foghat & brownsville station days are few and far between... jdubz, all i know is that "soul alone" is BAD ! the kind of BAD that ezz gggoooooooddd ! mc, the frankie z birthday reminder was timely. loved the card AND the tree shot ! your home is storybook beautiful. when i was in college and in an experimental photography stage, i discovered a method of shooting straight up through heavy snow-covered boughs to the night sky with a flash. real quick, no time-lapse or anything, the more snow the better. vary the distances and densities. great images and reflections against the total blackness. your great shot reminded me of that... first fire in the fireplace of the season tonight... first day of winter...
St Al, I got Dokken's greatest hits "why baby why"? I left out Empire and Silent Lucidity from Queensryche and Little Susie from Tesla! News Flash -- Which One's Pink? booked with Wild Child at the Anaheim House of Blues January 26, 2002!
* . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * Ho Ho Ho Ho Ho!!!! Merry Christmas, Hanukkah (ok, it just ended), Kwanzaa, All you Steely Dan fans are known for your impeccable taste in music, cars, romance and computers and more. A much smarter than average bunch. But another thing I know about Steely Dan fans is that after they shell out those bucks, shillings, shekels, etc, for that new CD burner or BMW or latest DTS 5.1 remaster for themselves, they are also a generous bunch with a big heart. But you guys are also a busy bunch. So that's why I am stopping by to "tickle" you--to remind you about doing that generous deed you were going to do when you were thinking of those kids and people who don't even have food or clothes or simple trinkets gifts under the tree, assuming they can afford a tree, let alone a PowerBook Titanium, a DVD-A system, the latest SD remasters, etc. Knowing you generous Steely Dan fans, you want to give but don't know how. In case you're stuck on some ideas, here's a few to get you started: * Many large post-offices, especially like the main Post Offices in Manhattan and Downtown Chicago and L.A., have in their lobbies stacks of letters addressed to me (Santa) from kids who have very modest wishes for Christmas . I was looking at some of these letters this evening at a big urban post office--some of these kids just want boots or coats for Christmas so they can be warm. I need your help. Maybe you can get to such a Post Office or maybe you can find an equivalent organization in your area. Grab a letter and buy that kid their gift. * More modestly, you could find out if your local public library has all of Steely Dan's CDs available for check out. If not, you could buy a fresh set or donate your older 1993 remasters. (Of course you better check first--some librarians may not want Steely Dan in their offerings in their library . Please send me their names and I will leave these evil sons-of-bitches and bastards a truck load of coal in their parking lot this holiday season. ) * Maybe you could take some time out from chatting on the BlueBook, SIS GB, alt group, Dandom Digest, etc, to help out at a local soup kitchen or other charity. Or go visit a nursing home. I bet you'll find at least one jazzer who was really around to experience Miles or Charlie Parker or Coltrane (etc) first hand rather than through the CD shop at Borders like many of us. I'm sure they'd love to talk about it --or maybe not, but who knows. I do know they'd like a visit. They could use your attention (rather than some of the anon dorks who show up in some SD Internet venues) and maybe you could turn them on to Steely Dan, if they aren't already. Remember 80 year-old Maggi McCoy? Hopefully, these are just a few ideas to get you going. Of course, all of us Steely Dan fans--Santa included--know the secret self-benefit behind this: There may not be a new album or current Steely Dan tour, but doing stuff like that suggested above can give you the same major equivalent buzz as experiencing Steely Dan live--spread the news! Thanks for reading and to all and all the Dan Fans a good night. Santa aka Hannah Klaus * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . * . *
nice picture of the trees MC. did you ever feel an "attraction" or a like for one particular tree? could there be a reason?????
Solstice occurred at 11:20am here in the PNW. BTW if you're feeling a little down around this time of year, when you wake up turn on as many lights as you can, and drink up the light with your coffee.. cheers you up,and takes away S.A.D (or cabin fever).
MC and Shirl~ have a purrrrrfect Holiday. eLLe
StAl, forget what I said, obviously. The more things chamge... Don't be envious now, friend. If you live, your time will come. I have to admit there is something disconcerting about reading a complete stranger's account on yourself. It's someone who obviously knows some things about me but yet I doubt anyone knows anything about this "Flame". There is something vaguely familiar in the delivery... a bitterness in tone. Ahhh... such intrigue, I'm telling ya. I don't know if I can take anymore. Hep me! lol
Blaise=smug, self-righteous, wandering around with a certain sense of entitlement, and perhaps, Ownership. Respect begets respect - in most cases. Just relax, take a deeeeeep breath, and feel safe in the situation at hand: you are a loyal fan of one of the most inventive and original bands ever. As they say in Cincinatti, there's some new Life down at the deli - why don't you go get one?
StAl, in my view, this distance taken by the band's entourage used to be apropos, given the old brutal format but now, there really isn't any anon asshole problem here, is there? Just the occasional bouts of idiocy. Overall, we're a decent bunch of mature, educated folks. Huh.. strike that. Heck, even the anons think twice these days. They now write "owe you jack..." instead of "owe you jack shit", for example. That's certainly a step towards civilization in my book. Even Roger Nichols's forum is scarier these days, what with Anthrax Man and everything, that says a lot. Now, I can understand why I would get the runaround when I address the drone directly, since I seem to be carrying this sort of outspoken bastard rep around, despite myself. I got used to the cold shoulder over the years. It's understood. But angel? I mean... perhaps angel could scare the wits out of a poodle, if she tried real hard... Anon, the drone don't owe me anything and in return, of course, as a sovereign individual, neither do I. Aja - Have a great time there, girl. And try to entertain that fine taste in men throughout the Holidays, alright? Ha! Joyeuses Fêtes, my dear. Thank you Sir Aus and company for the wishes. And Thanks Jim and company for the kind gesture. Nice, festive colors on that page, btw. What's up? You're all leaving us 'til after Christmas too? whoa Mu, I could drive to Zak and Sarah, sure... on the German Autobahn. You know, the outro to the title track sends my youngest boy running scared around the house. I'm not kidding. It's right where those strange vocals come in... Y'all go on and drive carefully now , y'hear? And don't hurt yourself celebrating the winter solstice already. Sorry to disturb the fascinating chit chat ongoing with a big mutha post like this but hey... Scroll! I know I have to.
I think Flame's trying to provoce me only because ''IT ''want's no 1000 post lol
ohh dear someone else i've pissed off
db: nevermind - you're just a waste of time MC: nice photo!! Beautiful! - and thanks for the truth in advertising!
Not as funny as 1 for bin laden but cool, still
D....feel free to save for your personal use....I just put the © on there to possibly deter anyone from pilfering my images for profit.
ohh i see it's flame the pissed bloke
Hilarious but cms takes a few double clicks and im afraid i'm just not up to that just yet. as far as Last man standing i have the rest of my life to load them...
Bloody scary if you ask me..
Hey duncan - in case you didn't know, I believe you need to POST the photo in the folder your trying to show us all.
oh heck, while I'm at it....the following is a link to a photograph I took last night....as I ride home from work every night, I kept noticing this group of trees behind the last car lot heading out of town....nothing but woods back there but the trees are slightly illuminated from the car dealer's lights on the lot....Shirl always called them the Fairy Trees....they looked more like Ghost Trees to me....whatever the case, I just thought they looked so cool I finally decided to stop and take a few pics last night....didn't really think a digital camera would be up to the challenge.....boy was I wrong.....a one second exposure shooting wide open (f2.8) on the tripod....just tweaked the contrast a bit in photoshop and here's what I ended up with: kind of a haunting beauty in my eyes....guess the camera is to me as canvas and paint is to the conventional artist....I do love to photograph....hope y'all enjoy it. Jim
Sorry MC said Shirl in my head
Duncan....who's Julie??? That's a Christmas wreath with mistletoe on the door behind us.....a classic photographic blunder!....I just took that pic about an hour ago.....guess I should have looked closer eh? hope you & Linda & Dan have a nice holiday season!
WIP: DOKKEN?!?!? Are you kidding? DOKKEN? ...snicker... Aja: Any chick who likes the Allman Brothers is alright in my book... GE: I hope I didn't scare you off with the NO JOURNEY THREADS post. Go ahead, tell your story. Regarding Angel's new e-mail. I'll be happy to give anyone who wants one a banyantrees.net address. There is a web interface for sending and receiving, however, it isn't nearly as comprehensive as Hotmail or Yahoo. Pat
who's julie?
MC what's that growing from Julie's head ?
Is 7 posts in a row still the limit
Sorry guys takes me about 3 mins to get to work in the van so i'm still working through my Ice cube collection.
Wishing you all a very merry Christmas, and a happy healthy and prosperous new year. With all our love, Aus & Babes
in case it's not obvious, the previous post is a link to our Season's Greetings card to each and every one of you. we hope you all have a safe and happy holiday season and a healthy and prosperous New Year. Jim & Shirl
sorry posted without reading...
on amore happy note, what follows is the letter to the man following me sacking an employee & him claimng unfair dismissal.. Further to our meeting with Mr. Sludds dated 4th April 2001, both myself Mr. Following the issuing of the verbal warning Mr. Sludds was put on a At this time our ''No Claims'' bonus had now risen to £300.00 pounds. Directly upon Mr. Sludds return to work he lied & tried to cover the true The resulting damage to the vehicle was estimated by Sherwoods & AMC Ltd at Mr. Sludds was made aware that he would now be responsible for the repairs & Despite the nature of the accident & the fact that he lied about its true At this point Mr. Sludds was given an official written warning about his We shall now not be asking Mr. Sludds to pay for the repairs to the vehicle. And regarding Mr. Sludds holiday pay this was withheld & put towards the During his time with Graphic Systems Mr. Sludds had a total of 6 accidents Mr. Sludds terminated his employment with Graphic Systems on 5th October I have enclosed some photo's, a copy of our insurance policy & can supply I hope this letter has gone some way to shedding some light on this whole Mr. Sludds worked for Graphic Systems for 4.5 years & was a contentious & D.Butterfield cased closed he was told to persue this claim no further.
Best driving song ever: "Jessica", by the Allman Bros. Watch out for San Diego State girls.......... Local joke: What can you do with a degree from San Diego State? Put it on your dashboard and use it as a handicapped placard. Blaisie mon chere, that was just what I needed.....;o) Happy and safe holidays, everyone!
Heya, StAl -- Just an FYI: I've been having a little off-and-on trouble reaching the Guestbook, or actually the entire www.banyantrees.net domain, over the past 48 hours. Happened both with my work and home systems. I was able to surf to other websites just fine at those times, so I don't believe it could be a DNS-related weirdness. Anyway ... there 'tis, for what it's worth. Re: Walter on KKCR -- I tried staying up to catch the broadcast; actually, I found myself a little confused as to which timezone WebDrone meant, and eventually assumed local Hawaii time. Well, either I assumed wrong, or the last-minute knock-down drag-out fight I had with my flakey DSL connection ensured that I missed it. Dang. Well, I gave it my best whack ... /the Mam'zelle
Best driving song? Hot Summer Nights in Sausalito? Tones, that's your favorite, right? How about These ought to get me to about Bakersfield
(875)WJAZ Route 101 Herb Albert, Yes! Gave my husband Herb Albert Greatest Hits Volume 20 last year. We used it on our recent trip to Phoenix. Herb is just great driving music. Mu: Remind me never to get in a car with you, when you play SD stuff. :-) Got an angel email. Check it out, if you are so inclined. (Dump the NOBOTS, of course). Hoping to use it on my website, if I ever get the time to finish phase 1. Thanks to St. Al for setting it up.
Hey Blaise! You serious man? You know, about the drone, or is that Canadian winter already starting to make you a little knuts? Can you imagine, for a moment, if people thought the Drone was somehow a direct conduit to our beloved sons, can you just imagine how difficult that job would be? You know, dealing with the likes of us and all...
Still Fighting it is the 2nd single New Frontier - DF (this one got me in a Heap 'o trouble in South Carolina) Zak and Sara - Mr. Folds Radar Love - hell, I don't remember - Dutch Earring or Golden Earring or something... Whatever the new song is by Jimmy Eat World Kamakiriad - DF (Be very careful if driving in the Florida panhandle) Rocket to Russia - The Ramones Brothers in Arms (title track) - Dire Straits (use only when driving in mountains - guard rails a must) The theme song from Malcolm in the Middle and the ultimate: Who's That Lady? - The Isley Brothers
St. Al: Sorry Bro' I drive a 40 year old car..I can't pick More Favorite Tunes: Manhattan Transfer - "Twilight Zone" Electric Light Orchestra -"MrBlueSky" Steely Dan - Everything! Michael Franks - "When Sly Calls(Don't touch that phone) Colin Hay (of Men At Work) Tony Bennet - Does Tony Bennet do any bad songs? Alan Parsons Project - "Games People Play" Wheezer - "Hashpipe" - Look a modern one! :)
Bill: How about something from this century! Though your choices are good... - Can't Stand It (Wilco)
Stevie ~ "Along the Red Ledge" was a very cool album as well, with the Foster production touch and all those great players! "Melody for a Memory" and "I Don't Want to Lose You" are my two favs from that release. Two other albums worth mentioning: "Three Hearts in the Happy Ending Machine" ~ Hall's second solo album, was released in 1986 and produced by Eurythmic Dave Stewart and longtime H&O bassist T-Bone Wok (probably best known for his stint in the SNL Band along with G.E. Smith, another H&O grad who appears on this release.) Other guest stars include Joni Mitchell, who sings on the ballad "Right as ain" (a veritable "Reese's Peanut Butter Cup" vocal combo), Boomtown Rat/Live Aider Bob Geldof, Pretender Robbie McIntosh & session keys-man Robby Kilgore. Bob Clearmountain's mixing is nothing short of pristine. I re-purchased this album to replace the vinyl, available only as a Japanese import, and transferred it to my Nomad Jukebox...which I use when snowboarding. With a fresh listen in my mind from last weekend's snow-shreddage session, I was reminded again what a great album this was. "I Wasn't Born Yesterday" & "Dreamtime" are my personal favs... "Soul Alone" ~ Hall's third solo album, released in 1993, recorded primarily in London, and making extensive use of the London Session Orchestra's string section. It's a tribute to the "Philly Sound" and to the string arrangements of Arif Mardin. Hall's songwriting, singing and playing on this album once again confirm his range of talents, and reflects the fact that Daryl is the most soulful whiteboy in the biz! The opening track "Power of Seduction" is a great lead-in...if this album doesn't get your significant other in the mood, fuggetaboutit! Other standouts include "I'm in a Philly Mood" & "Help Me Find a Way to Your Heart."
Season's Greetings!
my top 12 driving songs: ventura highway - america (cuz anyone can do the da-do-do part) safe travels if you are traveling this weekend venison stew anyone? - slow roasted turkey? - that's in the aga today as i clean for my department christmas party this evening.....
on Mike Ruff: In Connecticut, In the mid seventies my former Keyboard player Brad died in a car accident. His Parents (my former Dentist and wife)Donated his Hammond , Leslie and Rhodes to the band he was currently with called Stovall Brown (from Rhode Island). They Auditioned a keyboard player named Mike Ruff. The Band Broke up and Mike got Brad's Gear for free.
Yes I'm still around,more to follow-Ducky send me your street address I have a belated birthday present for you
If Walter rants in the middle of the night......WALTER is there to hear it......and he - or the WD doesn't owe you jack......
Radar Love and Twilight Zone - Golden Earring
finally....off for the next 12 days!! not a moment too soon.....Happy Holidays to all! eLLe....nice pic....looks like some nice toys y'all have there! Happy Birthday to Frank Zappa....he would have been 61 today. off to wind up the madness....looking forward to some quiet time.....later y'all.
Michael Ruff - I have an album of his on vinyl - as I recall he uses some notable session guys......I picked him up when i was working radio back in the mid-80's, about the same time I was getting promos for Michael Franks..... Actually, similar players, styles IMHO - Ruff's 'sound' was thin, but the music enjoyable.....
But angel, I shoved most of it up "there". Those Amazon previews usually prove to be misleading. Sure, the title track is catchy but it doesn't have the staying power of the rest of the album, imho. I'm dreaming of a stream-only, limited service that would give an accurate overview to potential buyers with complete songs and all but then again, a lot of stuff wouldn't sell quite as well and indeed we are left to our own device for now, using the internet to broaden our musical horizons, however we can... Q - If a Walter rants in the middle of the night, and noone is there to hear it, did the Walter make a sound? A - ?
Blaizer Rogue: In defense of the Web Drone, remember he is indeed "on the clock" when he posts WD messages. That is not to say that he may indeed post things under another "handle" when he is just being him. I am sure that the Web Drone handle comes with a lot of assorted baggage, like final approval of everything he writes. Makes it hard. Now on a subject like computers.... :-) Now I am really in trouble. I listened to the 30 second snippets of the Ben Folds album on Amazon and found that I liked Rockin' the Suburbs (the Title Cut) best on first listen. Is this another Nightfly problem, where it took me a year to get totally into it. :-) Mu: Must be nice seeing a tape at will.... Sigh. Last day of work. To those traveling this Holiday season, safe journey.
Missed Walter "live" on radio - what did he say? I went to site - saw no link - anyone got a link?(yah, I know, it was "live" stupid!) Happy Holidays to all DanFans!
Oh well... we WERE promised a newsletter, right? Right.
The problem with the Folds album is that the title track gives out such a wrong impression on the whole of this work. It is not representative by any stretch of the inagination. If one leaves it there, it's going by some future should be classic pop ditties like Carrying Cathy, Fred Jones, Not the same, in brief, pretty much the rest of it. The title track is definitely my least favorite, along with Zak and Sara, however clever the lyrics may be. I've grown to dislike Rockin' the Suburbs even more considering it shadows those other songs, it being the title track and I figure, the first single out of it. Too bad, really, You were saying? And the Drone was silent, in predictable fashion, feeding the intrigue, oblivious to the genuine fan inquiries, figures... The Drone will comment on some lame spam email thread but will not forward any useful info.
hey junglebill, ol' jdubz ain't talkin' that 80s "commercialized music" version of hall & oates, although alot of that is sweet stuff. j's talkin' that SEVENTIES original white philly soul edition. there's an obscure (NO radio play) album called "along the red ledge" from '78 that was produced by none other than david foster with guests like, lemme look at the vinyl here... uh todd rungren... yes, george harrison... robert fripp, jay graydon, lukather, steve porcaro. the core band contained kenny passarelli and caleb quaye among others. a true unsung classic... stevee, howz about a little extra b & w retro colour (that makes NO sense, i know) on that todd/tubes club gig, pleeze. like material-wise, etc... tony toni tone', this is what i call respectful debate and i DIG it. it's something that is the forte for most of the gb crue. probably one of the most tap-like juxtapositions on the long strange trip is the keyboard chair. from the pigpen on down. well, that or that "wall of sound" and any other of the amazing innovations (pressure sensitive mats to activate mics or any of jerry's later guitars, etc) built by drug-addled, well financed, and/or bored overachieving roadies... blaiser rouge. that's the perma-blush is it not ? thank you cyn. clas, mike ruff ? no bells, here. david ruffin ? nah, just said that to tie in to the first paragraph for cyclic structure of the post...
Hall & Oates? I liked Hall & Oates. Yeah it was Good driving songs? How about; "Don't take me Alive" - SD Care to add a few? :)
Clas: Yes, they knew or figured out the "slapping" and there was a short chart: 12:54 mark Donald: "Yes, I remember this was kind of a written bass part, but he fixed it up in his own..." Walter: (intejects) "Parts of it were written. This part was written (points and indicates the verse portion)...Just a great musician...slapping and also fretting with his thumb. Chuck had a really unique...there's the chorus (where Chuck Rainey and Walter worked on evolving the bass line)..." Donald: "You'll have to ask Chuck about the thumb business." Cut to Chuck Rainey. I think it speaks for itself really...
Hall & Oates 1974 release, "War Babies" (available as an import/Amazon.com) is a classic example of Todd Rundgren, in a producer role, leaving his indelible stamp on his producee's music. Those who are quick to write off H&O as commercial hit-slingers will definitely be surprised by this "almost avant-garde" album (although those in the know will recall that Hall's first solo album, "Sacred Songs" was a collabaration with the inscrutible Robert Fripp)...nonetheless, the signature "A Wizard/A True Star"-era Todd sound is all over this album, replete with TR vocals and guitar. The vocal combination of the three Philly boys is electric...well worth a listen!
Oh, and Tones,FYI, the Tubes show up on SCTV in two early episodes, where they go on a fishin' trip in the segment "fishin' musician".
I can feel my lifetime piling up... 830 Simon: And the Tubes are still touring? 775 Steveedan: Gardners and lifeguards. Made me smile. ...and Pepe, stick your ugly mug in here! Got those O Brother CD's burned yet? They're supposed to be Xmas presents ya know. I still can't believe you bought a Miata convert. and the wife left you live. Holy shiite!
Grease the Super Day! Hey, Manuelo, tx for taking my deleveries! ;-] Muchas gracias!!!!!
~steviedead ; ).. the mandolin, we just picked up..hubby used to play it.. ~SteveeDan LOL..yep it's me..surprise! teehee, my keyboards are there too!! ~BlaaaaAAAAise..you forgot the VOX!!! dude..(I'm sitting on it) it's the newest model(LOL... it had only been in Guitar Center for 2 hours before we walked in) and I have to say..IT ROCKS supreme! ~Cyn ~Angel..thanks. ~C..guitars..guitars..amps..amps..guitars..
THANKS kids!!!!! regards,
..welcome to the machine
What the HELL was that?
:::K7K7++++:::^^^roadcasting12192001:::EST"astards... We'll take 'em all out if we have t:::"plas::c explosives ^ill do the trick:::they'll have no idea... Stomp anyone who even thinks about talkingK7K7:::hree cases of Wild Turkey will placate that pigfucker:::++++12579^1973:::"hrist the walls are bleeding;;;e'll never get all of this on tape with her stumbling around doing that to everyone who walks in the room:::K7K7++++34:
angel: I feel the same way. There's a lot of information there... to paraphrase was it Dean Parks. Notice how they use Parks' segment by the pool to tie everything together...really, the British can make a helluva production Ole, SteveeD, tones, angel: It was sad and fitting that Paul Griffin would make one last stand with the guyz...he seemed to have a lot of soul. Vinnie in the window during the Carlton segment? I'll check it out again soon! I wonder if that means they tried Carlton for the Negative Girls sessions, then dropped his track? ...or a time coinvergence coincidence (recording the track in early 1999 at the same time as the TvN recordings... elle: quite a collection! the chapeau of doom and the elbow angle were also very creative... §: By George, I think you've got it! Excellent observations re: Folds. He permeates the parody and commentary in his music. Providing a wry, sardonic smile, without laughing too much at his jokes. Plus, of course, the title track juxtaposes with the rest of the album. one of the things I picked up on early was how the lyrics worked in a synergistic fashion with the tunes and production...you almost forget how off-kilter the stories and images are. Virtually every song has some profanity, but you hardly even notice it! OK, except on the title track, where it becomes a critical part of the running joke (this is about all these guys who've polluted the cultural landscape have to say!) The Broadway spoof/schitck of "muthafucka" at the end of Fired just kills me (time to get David Lee Roth out of mothballs for one last arm dramatic spread!) 1. The rhythm of the song and production emphasize or accent just the right words or syllables. like the oomph on "waits" and "just the same" on Annie Waits... 2. The lyrics provide the right sounds for certain phrases. For example, the open vowels when Folds sings "Oh so long ago" in Losing Lisa provide an ear-candy type lyricism that's addictive 3. Using a bell-like falsetto in Ascent of Stan... he strings our "Wheeeeeeere'd the years gooooo" which sets up the Brian Wilson harmonies later on in the song Maybe this stuff is just the musical equivalent oh heroin...I don't know...my 9 year old theatrical one is now an addict as well...
Mu: Watched the Carlton part of Making Aja again and I do think the very low angle is part of the problem, because the words Carlton says ring true to me, also. For me, the best part of the tape is the by play between Donald and Walter. Just incredible to see the "Two bodies, one brain" in action. Also amazing to me that it holds up on repeated viewings. I have a tendency to never watch anything more then once, (occupational hazard, I guess) because I get bored easily. This tape holds up and actually you catch new things with each watching. I also watched a bit of the Plush again this morning (the things I have to do at 6AM, otherwise, the VCR is always taken). :-) eLLe: What outstanding guitars. Cool shot. Web Drone: Did you get to hear the interview? Anything worth knowing? GE: Yes! You are back! Steve Perry, please. (Don't listen to St. Al) :-) W1P: Man, that is a bummer. As if we don't have enough spam in our lives, as it is. I think the x@y.com was a made up email address, FYI.
eLLe..somehow I pictured your living room would look like that...way cool! LP.. The Face and I are coming up there to take care of business a la "Soprano" style (all tho shes a tenor). Just send the address... sh...Where are you? Look for email.. Jim#..I'm packing, gasin' up the Ex, putting on my antlers. Now, wheres that confounded bridge over and "under" the Chesapeake?
Belated wishes to la Mam'zelle on her 45th. Ole - Yes, you're absolutely right. 'Twas Steely Dan breakfast meat. ß
It is also a comment on the current cultural landscape. It could be read as a comment on the spiritual void left by our embracing consumerism to such an extent, I mean this inability to refer to anything meaningful beyond everyday american life, other than this feeling you get when people cut in front of you at the burger chain. Someone struggling to express his feelings in this day and age, his soul knowingly lost in the marketplace, succeeding at times, all tongue in cheek. Pointing to the fact that there is beauty still to be found. Marvelous. No wonder Jaydubs is emotional... stevie and dear Aja - the lack of response you detect should be interpreted simply as a sign of discomfort, nothing more. I love you guys, really, but you're trying to make me blush there through the wire...
So I gather with everyone fawning over merchandise, noone picked up on the Becker interview? What sorry ass state of affairs do we have here? Anyone on Hoopsie's caught that one? I bet. Those radio interviews have often proven to be insightful in the past. Drone, what did he say, in a nutshell? No? As I was saying, Folds pokes fun at his uses of cliches WHILE HE'S DOING IT and that's why it flies like this. He KNOWS the listener is aware of it nd plays on that. I'm about to cry genius here, can't you tell? Hold me back, dammit.
elle - No. The picture says three words, really: Marshall, Fender, Ovation. In another century, they'd call the whole thing synmptomatic of the ruling fetichism of commodity but you're off the hook now, obviously. It's all good, the best, really. Enjoy. Clas, yes right there, yet again, the representation of said pair of Norwegian Reindeer. Nature as ornament, on clothing, on our lawn, in the Christmas Tree... it's everywhere. It's a fixation, like it symbolizes something krypto-important, albeit perhaps unconsciously. In other words, what's that all about? Illustration: "You want a Coke? Many instances of this unfolding on Folds. You get the textbook pop ballad dressed up with those quirky lyrics, all the while delivered in this totally poignant way, all of it believable and the word "post-pop" comes to mind. I don't know exactly what to make of it just yet, but I'm listening Mu. Bear with me here...
stevied - I hope my last post didn't come off as heated in anyway. I was tired sure, but not heated. Nor did I mean to imply the Dead *ever* played down to Vinnie or Bruce; they would never do that (to them or us). But V and B walked into a musical conversation that had been going on for 30 years, and there was a lot to fill them in on. In retrospect I think they were doing a great job, especially considering it was a learn-on-the-job-in-front-of-thousands-of-people kinda gig. Right about now, they (the Dead) would have been getting into some *serious* new territory. Ah well... (interesting that each Dead decade began with them working in a new keyboard player. By the end of the nineties they would have had to keep Vinnie and Hornsby apart like Cheney and Bush) And before you rush out to buy Young and Rich, I'm nervously issuing this disclaimer: the first album may be a better album really, and the first and second could really be parts 1 and 2 of the same story. I just listen 2 Young and Rich more because it's not as well known, and I'm sometimes prone to being contrary... Simon - yo there! I agree Prairie Prince is worth the price of admission, live or recorded. Wouldn't be surprised to see him pop up on a Dan session. tacos t
Hi eLLe -- Is that a picture of YOU with all of those guitars? Now that's what I call a living room !!! Gina - thank you for telling me about John Beasley's website. How did my quote get there? Did you send it to him? That was very cool. I checked it out and then I sent him an email. I am sorry that I missed him again. He was at the Jazz Bakery in Los Angeles this week, and I forgot. I have a good friend who knows him well. I will try to get together with Beas and my friend. When I was still going to Berkeley in the Bay Area, I saw a nightclub gig with Todd Rundgren and The Tubes were Todd's backup band. It was around 1980. The club was called Bilbo's. Jane Doorknocker was there too. It is trajic that she died in a helicopter crash in NYC many years later. The Making Of Aja is always educational for me. I watched a portion of it last night. The Victor Feldman part is a wonderful little moment. For those of you who noticed it - during the Larry Carlton segment you can see a reflection in the studio glass of Vinnie Caliuta. Look hard. You'll see him. Also, it is hard to watch the exterior shots of NYC and see the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center standing there so majestically in the Aja DVD. I never knew Paul Griffen until after I read the article about him on the ODP a couple of years ago. Although it is sad that he has passed on, it is uplifting to see him on the Fender Rhodes right next to Donald on Home At Last. A moment saved for posterity - just like the World Trade Center. I found a songbook that has a chart for Fagen's "Big Noise, New York" in it. I am working out that song now. There better be a new CD released soon because at the rate I'm going, I might run out of Dan tunes to play by March. (Just kidding. I never grow tired of this awesome material.) Happy Holidays GB-ers.
just wanted to say that paul carrack's "blue views" from '95 is sounding EXCELLENT at the moment. pino palladino RULES the underworld ! good morning, clas. okay, now i'm really gone...
dr Mu - C Rainey's saying something like: “I swear, they never heard it...” according to the slapping in the chorus. I think that's bullshit. Maybe they never heard it the moment it went down, but they must have heard the slapping when they soloed the bass for a closer listening. And I can't hear anyone talking about any bass-charts, Becker and Rainey worked out the bass-line from a simple idea Becker had, or? And my favourite, I say it again, that's Marottas Peg-groove, “I opened my hi-hat just a hair”. C
... a little tribute there to quell the heat. i figured the wave would be coming. hey, leadbelly ain't technical and i love him. i know that usually every "steviedan album of the week" (TM) is some guitar shredder or serious jazzbo, but there is this technique to soul ratio that can be the great equalizer in my tastes and that is operative here. i do think that they had some technical moments even, but a suggestion that anyone in the dead would have to play down to a musician of hornsby's OR welnick's calibre would be uninformed. don't get me wrong cause that cloth-bound "so many roads" box didn't come cheap like penny licorice... ace & queen. twenty-one. congrats hank, i can't believe the 19th is your anniversary because it's ours as well. 17 for pat & yourself, 21 for phyllis & i. the greenery on my parents' mantle caught fire from the candles during the ceremony. dad managed to get that fire out pretty quick. yes, we were HOT then and we're still burning ! btw hank, great trivia on the sonny cover on "nightfly". never had noticed ! tone & ge, enjoyed the tubes info. i was in music school during those years and out of the loop on the newer pop music of that time. it's like these missing years that i can still discover. "young & rich" it will be... wormy, what ELSE did sue tell you ? you are SO elite ! and so right about bob welch. "heroes" is one of my favorites. gina, i've been noticing your conspicuous absence. glad it's over. 'ello simon, glad to see you as well. elle, do you play the mandolin ? i've fooled around on one a bit. i see you like the ovations. cool shot. i guess it's almost time to begin my christmas shopping lol. i've been just wiping UP on gifts from my string, percussion, & guitar students. just unbelievable ! nice to know they can see beneath my nazi cane- pounding music disciplinarian veneer. EIN SCHWEIN TREIN... VUN more time ! and yet somehow, they really luf me !
elle - three guitars and two dots? Is that a secret message? C
Blaise - I was searching. And searching. And searching. And SEARCHING!!! Finally found them. Thanx. C
Wow, it's a lot of snow today. The only one who's happy about it is the damn dog ( for those who are into dogs, look at: www.ateljelundkvist.se/galleri ) --- This is from the song book Best of Steely Dan (for guitar): “Larry Carlton played on quite a few of our records. He's a real virtuoso. In my opinion, he can get around his instrument better than any studio-guitarist. He's also quite a good blues player. He did the solos on 'Kid Charlemagne', the middle solo he did in two takes and we used both parts. The last solo was straight improvisation.” (D. Fagen) I don't care much about AJA, but what would Royal Scam be without Carltons input? dr Mu - OK, OK, let's meet at the OK Corral. Simon - Steely Dan in Stockholm THIS year? Oh boy, I must have missed something, big time. Hej förresten, bor du i Stockholm? Luckless Pedestrian - be cool my little yankee girl. --- Has anyone heard of a singer/pianoplayer named Mike Ruff? C
I also got that spam, addressed to me plus midnite cruiser and hank silvers. I'm afraid an email harvester bot has been through this GB and/or its archives. :-(
Here's an e-mail I just received. What makes it unusual is the identity of the recipients -- me, St Al, Peg and Duncan. message: Hi, my name is Heather and I am a 19 year old female from San
Keyword: "slew".
Main Entry: slew
Function: noun
Etymology: perhaps from Irish slua ARMY, host, throng, from Old Irish slúag; akin to Lithuanian slaugyti to tend
Date: 1839
: A LARGE NUMBER
= record (usually + eventually + logically). The whole question is when.
Breaking it down in a language all will understand:
IMHO
No tour = late summer to winter solstice release (the Dan, they perform mostly in open air amphitheatres)
Tour = early to late spring release
All this on the strenght, the momentum of a few nesletters along the way, of course. God willing...
Also notice there are no year specified in order to augnemt the likelihood of the propositions hereby brought forth. After all, we've been indiscriminantly pointed out in said newsletter for falsely reporting stories or reporting false stories, whatever the case, bottom feeders of innuendo on the band we be so every precaution is taken to accurately reflect on the truth of the matter, as always. I was not surprised to see that, upon closer inspection, when broken down, that level of inaccuracy in info provided web-wise is mainly caused by these peripheral, often poorly maintained, OTHER message boards in dandom.
That Yahoo club accounts for over half of the bull, says here.... then it's that google alt page (30%), then the Blue page (if and when), even that defunct, de-funkified Amen Corner was fairly loose as well, in its heyday, etc...
Sure-fire independant accounting methods have proven this place here to be the exception, no doubt, all proportions kept. Oh... let the record show, there is very little debate.
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Dragon
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I suppose you all know about my stay at the Anitra Ford Clinic. Another try at detox and, as usual, another failure.The deludin is coursing thru my veins as I speak. Another gosh darn misunderstanding with one of the nurses, and I'm back on the street again.
Well, maybe this Christmas won't be as black as all the others have been.
News has reached me that Arthur Lee, vocalist and songwriter of the 1960s band LOVE, has just been released from jail, after serving only 6 years of his sentence for shooting a gun in the air when his neighbor told him he was playing his stereo too loud.
That was, of course, Lee's third strike (one of the others was for setting his ex-girlfriends porch on fire when he was stalking her) and, we all know what that means in California.
But it turned out one of his old tour managers had become the District Attorney for that county and he managed to get him out, time served.
So it looks like it's back in the high life for Doctor Warren K.- psychiatrist to the rock stars. A psycho like Lee is gonna need all the drugs, psychoanalysis, shock, and of course "water treatment" that a professional such as I can dispense.
So, look out world, Doctor Warren Kruger is gonna be back on top in no time!
Vengefully Yours,
Dr. Warren K.
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Great Joy and Peace to all who inhabit this slice of cyberspace, especially WB/DF and DF/WB
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As a grateful new receiver of a DVD system, I think I might be able with my limited experience to clear up a little controversy...
| angel * * Working some OT tonight. Something about a birth in a Cave
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Oh, and for dessert, Pizza Dulce (a sweet cheese pie) and Pumpkin Pie.
Enjoy.
A Countdown to Ecstasy.
2 Plush DVD's
and a Countdown to Ecstasy.
3 Ole bumper stickers
2 Plush DVD's
and a Countdown to Ecstasy.
4 Me, Myself and Irenes
3 Ole bumper stickers
2 Plush DVD's
and a Countdown to Ecstasy.
5 Gold CD's
4 Me, Myself and Irenes
3 Ole bumper stickers
2 Plush DVD's
and a Countdown to Ecstasy.
(you all get the idea, right.) :-)
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Produced by Ed Freeman Dedicated to Buddy Holly (the album not this song)
Paint your palette blue and gray
Look out on a summer's day
With eyes that know the darkness in my soul...
Shadows on the hills
Sketch the trees and the daffodils
Catch the breeze and the winter chills
In colors on the snowy linen land.
What you tried to say, to me
And how you suffered for your sanity
And how you tried to set them free:
They would not listen; they did not know how --
Perhaps they'll listen now.
Starry, starry night
Flaming flowers that brightly blaze
Swirling clouds in violet haze
Reflect in Vincent's eyes of china blue
Colors changing hue
Morning fields of amber grain
Weathered faces lined in pain
Are soothed beneath the artist's loving hand.
Now I understand
What you tried to say, to me
And how you suffered for your sanity
And how you tried to set them free:
They would not listen; they did not know how--
Perhaps they'll listen now.
For they could not love you
But still, your love was true
And when no hope was left inside
On that starry, starry night
You took your life as lovers often do--
But I could've told you, Vincent:
This world was never meant
For one as beautiful as you.
Starry, Starry night
Portraits hung in empty halls
Frameless heads on nameless walls
With eyes that watch the world and can't forget
Like the strangers that you've met
The ragged men in ragged clothes
The silver thorn, a bloody rose
Lie crushed and broken on the virgin snow.
Now I think I know
What you tried to say, to me
And how you suffered for your sanity
And how you tried to set them free:
They would not listen; they're not listening still--
Perhaps they never will.
[Vincent van Gogh (1853-1890) Dutch Painter]
Oh, and by the way, in case you hadn't noticed take your curser and place it on top of the Santa hat or the deer (or is it reindeer?) on the ODP for a little surprise, just a wee one.
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1. Bifocals Barbie - Comes with her own set of blended-lens fashion frames in six wild colors (half-frames too!), neck chain, and large-print editions of Vogue and Martha Stewart Living.
2. Hot Flash Barbie - Press Barbie's bellybutton and watch her face turn beet red while tiny drops of perspiration appear on her forehead. Comes with handheld fan and tiny tissues.
3. Facial Hair Barbie - As Barbie's hormone levels shift, see her whiskers grow. Available with teensy tweezers and magnifying mirror.
5. Bunion Barbie - Years of disco dancing in stiletto heels have definitely taken their toll on Barbie's dainty arched feet. Soothe her sores with the pumice stone and plasters, then slip on soft terry mules.
6. No-More-Wrinkles Barbie - Erase those pesky crow's-feet and lip lines with a tube of Skin Sparkle-Spackle, from Barbie's own line of exclusive age-blasting cosmetics.
7. Soccer Mom Barbie - All that experience as a cheerleader is really paying off as Barbie dusts off her old high school megaphone to root for Babs and Ken Jr. Comes with minivan in robin-egg blue or white and cooler filled with doughnut holes and fruit punch.
8. Mid-life Crisis Barbie - It's time to ditch Ken. Barbie needs a change, and Alonzo (her personal trainer) is just what the doctor ordered, along with Prozac. They're hopping in her new red Miata and heading for the Napa Valley to open a B&B. Includes a real tape of "Breaking Up Is Hard to Do."
9. Divorced Barbie - Sells for $199.99. Comes with Ken's house, Ken's car, and Ken's boat.
10. Recovery Barbie - Too many parties have finally caught up with the ultimate party girl. Now she does Twelve Steps instead of dance steps. Clean and sober, she's going to meetings religiously. Comes with a little copy of The Big Book and a six-pack of Diet Coke.
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wooden hill calling... have a good one
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warm brussel sprouts slaw with a bacon sauce
garlic cream aga potatoes
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later.
- Meatballs
- Baked Ziti
- Sausage and Peppers
- Pasta Fagioli (pasta w/beans)
- Italian Coleslaw
- Tiramisu
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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 8:11:24 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: Craig Bailey
To: pink@floydianslip.com
CC: echoes@meddle.org
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by Michael Franks
produced by Walter Becker
How did you ever find her?
She tried so hard to disappear
Somebody rang the bell and
handed her Vincents Ear
All the love inside he tried to give
No one understands
His life was hard to live
No one understands
In a past which he could not desert
No one understands
How his heart was hurt
Somehow
By someone...
But what could explain a gift so queer?
Totally unprepared for
the riddle of Vincents ear
Handsomely wrapped for you, my dear
Imagine her suprise then,
Discovering Vincents ear.
| Duncan
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rotf
db
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| z
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Steveedan- Who is that guitarist/arranger you were talking about? Lotta great jazz dudes out there on the left coast- Bruce Forman, Larry Koonse,Peter Sprague, not to mention all the studio dudes.
When I get back home I'll check out that TZ thing on BS. I'm hip to KE's quotes- on "Just Take a Pebble", he quotes Bach's First Invention.
Ending BS is a bitch live. I don't have Plush here, but it sounds like they end it on the Ab13th chord you mentioned with maybe an augmented 11th thrown in for effect.
| µ
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| eLLe
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hahahahahahahahhaa
..get oot of the Q and have a wee dram and have a wee run up in the moors
teeheeeee
LORD OF THE RINGS!! yus yus!!!!!! did yah actually knoo that the Be-alls
wanted to do a movie about the LOTR way back in the 60's..Paul-as the Hobbit..John as Gandolf
etc.etc.can u see it? would have been BRRRRRILLLIANNNNNT och suits you sir
suits you!!
have a good one mate!!!!!
eLLe
| Steveedan
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Is it an Ab13(9)? I think you have it as an Ab7(b5). Whatever it is, it is very cool.
Steveedan
| The Fez
| Day: 23
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All the best from The Fez...........down under.....future world
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Duncan
| Day: 23
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ref no 1000
25-1 it's me only i dont realise or notice for about 3 days LOL
still the boy done gud today another star shines tonight..
i hate singing in public / church,
,still day not wasted ( or me either) back in time for me & D to watch Lawrence of arabia & The king & I ..
db
| Dano
| Day: 23
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But afore A go all the lassies in the hoose say yo
| wormy
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may the message of the cross permeate your manger this holiday season
I also have a tape called Something / Everything - great Todd compilation
and my mind knows what it want's but my body just brings me down
| tones
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| Midnite Cruiser
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| z
| Day: 23
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Zoloft is fine for pd also- recommended by Dr. D.F. Klein and Doctor Warren Kruger, both eminent authorities on this stuff.
Well, that makes 4 of us on ADs here, not to mention WB and DF who claimed ADs enabled them to go to the Grammies in a NY radio interview. I'm not sure if they were kidding though...
Steveedan- Thanx for the tip on the keyboard book- riffs by people like Omartian, Mounsey, Victor Feldman, and DF make SD the great music it is. You're definitely right about the standard SD books- none of the piano parts are correct on a lot of stuff, including BS, which I had to figure out myself. Here's why it's such a great tune harmonically:
The mysterious sounding intro sounds that way because we have no idea what key they're in till we finally get some type of cadence in Ebm. So that would make the previous chords Gb=bIII, B=bVI, Ab=IV, E=bII A7b5=bII7-5 of IV, then finally Ebm=i. The use of the A7b5 to get to Ebm is incredible.
You expect to hear Ab and they give you Ebm. Great stuff!
Then they do the same stuff again till they sequence the Rhodes lick up a minor third to B and we get a bit of the chorus melody and harmony, but up a minor second from where it's gonna be later on. The F#/E acts as a lydian sounding bII in Ebm, and then we get the A7b5 again to get back to Ebm. Then they end the intro on the Bb7sus chord which should be the V of Ebm, but instead, just acts as a 4-3 suspension figure when it's resolved to Bbm7 as DF comes in.
The verse is in a very jazz-oriented Bbm, using the iim7 (Cm7), the IV9 (Eb9), the bIIImaj9 (DbMaj9), the bVII13(Ab13)and then ending on the bVI Maj7 (GbMaj7), before returning to Bbm, the home key. This all sounds a lot like the harmonies in "Deacon Blue" "Aja" and "Almost Gothic" especially their use of the dominant 9th chord as an almost Debussyan temporary tonal center.
The next phrase starts the same way, but then keeps going up in min7ths a major 2nd apart from each other-Bbm7,Cm7,Dm11 and a lesser composer would have stayed in the key the Dm7 belonged to but DF unpredictably goes back to Bbm7, followed by Cm7, which this time is used as the first ii-V7 progression in the song, but in the parallel major key of Bb Major which acts as kind of a release of all the tension of the other meandering harmonies (and gives me a little tingling in the brain). This is followed by a very conventional, EW&F sounding bII7b5 of the IV chord (EbMaj7), then the IV chord itself (see "That's the Way of the World"), but then they completely throw us for a loop with A7+5 which leads to a very distant new key center of Dm. We could say that DF was fucking with our heads by giving us the Dm11 in the earlier phrase, but going back to Bbm and then going back to Dm, starting with the Cm7 F9sus, which is ii-V in the bVI of Dm, BbMaj7.
The chorus then goes back to the bII lydian idea we got in the intro, but this time down a Minor 2nd, in Dm. The "So Fine So young" part uses a pretty conventional secondary dominant chain (C7,F7,BbMaj7), but then uses a real Wes Montgomery-type change (see "Unit 4", his substitute chords for the Gershwin tune "Summertime")Bbm7 to Eb9 (the bII of Dm) to get back to Dm.
The wild inversions that follow, end on a Bb7b9 or Ddim7 chord to get us prepared to go back to the key of the intro, Ebm, as we get the "Here come those Santa Ana winds again" part (with DF shivering vocally).
This is followed by a wild series of sliding downward harmonies in Ebm, using every form of Ebm derived harmony imaginable- (Ebm9,Ebm6,Ebmw/ma7,Ebm7b5, Ebm47, while the clavinet keeps playing Eb and Gb in m3rds using the reggae rhythm it keeps returning to throughout), which finally ends on the Bbm7 to take us back to the verse again.
The coda gives us a great idea that I used on the chorus in my derangement of this tune- the girls singing a blues scale lick in Dm while the chords were on that bII lydian sounding F/Eb and that bII7b5 of IV (Ab7b5)-"You got to shake it baby"etc...
I interpret the lyrics as another one of those "loser" stories (like "West of Hollywood","Peg",)where the guy has blown another relationship and now seeks the comfort of "babylon sisters", who he can live out his fantasies with.
Great song.
| FaceTheFace
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| Australian Translation Dictionary
| Day: 23
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Australian friends, might I suggest "Larry's Aussie slang
and phrase dictionary" at:
| Midnite Cruiser
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| Midnite Cruiser
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| Steveedan
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Steveedan
| Steveedan
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Steveedan (Renegade Dan tune transcriber)
| Duncan
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have a good one Everyone see you all soon
D,D&L
| Steveedan
| Day: 23
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Steveedan (MFM for the SFB)
| z
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Clas- I was once in a study that dealt with using x for pd and then withdrawing from it without any consequences. I went up to 5mgs after about 6 months and then they started withdrawl using clonidine to minimize noradrenergic activity in the locus ceruleus.
The xperiment failed and I experienced over 30 pa's on my sojourn on the A train after going 3 days without any x. When they put me back on x, I was brand new again. While I never felt better than I did on x, it fucked up my brain-to-hand coordination so bad, I couldn't play the guitar, which was how I supported myself for 20 years.
I went on an AD 11 yrs. ago and haven't had a PA since, but I had to get off x on my own, cause the study was over by then. Slowly tapering and 3 days in bed did the trick. As part of the study, I was on x constantly, hopefully you were taking it intermittently. It's a bitch.
| eLLe
| Day: 22
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it emulates the following:
US HIGAIN, BOUTIQUE OD, BOUTIQUE CL, BLACK2x12, TWEED 1x12, TWEED4x10
| Bill @ BluePacific.com
| Day: 22
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by Michael Franks
Produced by Walter Becker
Makes no difference where you go
Every journey ends
Each new landscape
Now you know
Is a steppingstone
Till you're safe at home
Grey winds that rage
Lightening lines, pale white
Choose new colors
Turn the page
Where there is no storm
and you're safe at home
In a blue crayon sky
Little one I love you
You're the reason that I am here
Just close the door
Leave the world behind
Love is what we're living for
Love and love alone
To be safe at home
Yellow
by the opal pool
All the long afternoons in the Crayon Sunlight
Yellow
by the opal pool
And both of us safe at home
And everyone safe at home
Have a happy holiday everyone!
P.S. Santa/Hannah Claus:
Nice Post! You seem to get the reason for the season.
Trying to get my local librarian to accept Steely Dan
though could be dangerous, she's sort of a squeezed-up
vixenish woman with a mean streak. :)
| Anneke
| Day: 22
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Think we are gonna get a white x-mas!
| Miz Ducky
| Day: 22
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wishing a happy winter solstice to all, and to all a good sun-return--
Blessed Be
| FaceTheFace
| Day: 22
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| Roy.Scam
| Day: 22
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I still believe in you, honest; I'll sign an affadavit and take a polygraph test. Here's my Christmas list: a Fisher Price Sand Bunker, a pair of Speed-o-Light Backwards Roller Skates, a spandex jacket (one for everyone if you have room), a Babylon Barbie set (one black, one white, one fine, one young), Gaucho Underoos (w/spangles), a Mattell Battle Apple with Fire-Eyes Josie Action Figure, two chia pets (one with oleanders and one with el supremo), and a Don't Take Me Alive Action Set. And, most of all, please give my parents that vacation in Haiti they've been wanting.
Thanks and Merry christmas,
Roy , age seven
RS
| angel * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Trying to scare that poodle, and failing
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| Blaise
| Day: 22
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I say ban IP (oh and Merry Christmas!), if only for an undetermined, limited period of time. I mean time enough for this person to think through the potentially damaging implications of his/her actions (given a more vulnerable, sensitive target) and study the concept of accountability for his/her words. All in favor say yeah.
Imho, one cannot permit this type of behavior from becoming common practice again. Or else, what was the point, html?
My take.
Case closed.
Y'all have a dooser now.
| The hunt for bean-laden
| Day: 22
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Cincinnati reference only serves a misleading purpose, covering tracks, obviously. "Cincinnati life" is, at best, an oxymoron, eh, Clas?
b
| Fun with Blaisie
| Day: 22
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Key word "ownership" leads to the likely source of said cowardly act. This being the product of an outspoken neighbor of a friend of a fan. Bullshit radar points Northeasterly, in any case, no doubt.
Developping...
| That's a good one, Clas.
| Day: 22
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| your time zone guru...
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| Clas
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| Clas
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| steviedan-ner on donner on blitzen
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| W1P and proud of it!
| Day: 21
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| Santa Claus aka Hannah Klaus
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| eLLe
| Day: 21
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http://www.glideonthewind.com/birthday.htm
| eLLe
| Day: 21
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YAY!!!!
I call this day the first day of Spring, and rejoice.
Not cause I'm a pagan, just because it feels good knowing it's gonna get lighter.
Ok, so I'm weird, nothin new there.
However..remember this "therapy" only works in the AM, for some reason.
: )))
cheers!
| eLLe
| Day: 21
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| B
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| Flame
| Day: 21
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You see, sweetheart, the drone wouldn't ask anything of YOU, and yet you felt/wrote/expressed a sense of shock and dismay that your feeble, Great White Northian ramblings would deserve a response from Webdrone, and therefore would grant you 'special' status. I understand you're overlooked; feeling left out; perhaps alone and miserable.
And now yet another instance of your being ignored has prompted to you to flash off again, unnerved at your apparent - still - LACK of entitlement.
It was you who, in fact, expected response and satisfaction, and when you didn't receive it, you got all huffy.
Hope you can learn to accept that, and not expect to be given morsels of insider info from one who won't give it.
| Blaise
| Day: 21
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After all, she did ask nice... sweetness itself...
Are you implying that even he/she/it is not privy to anything? You ARE pulling my leg, man.
Respect, it engenders respect, I was told, growing up. I'll just leave it at that.
Everything is fine with the Universe.
Ommmmmmmm
Now, look even la Mam'zelle missed it, our last hope. Definitely a break in the lines of communication down the line there, eh?
And I had written somewhat of a retraction later on but, like she said, the page went on and off this morning and it... just got lost. Yeah... that's it.
Darn... you all have fun now then!
Good choice for a second single, btw.
| db
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| db
| Day: 21
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never mind i'm sure life will go on...
| Flame
| Day: 21
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| db
| Day: 21
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| MC again
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| db
| Day: 21
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| db
| Day: 21
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still MC desctop meister thanks.
while you just wait.. lol
| db
| Day: 21
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but will make a nice change from cool clouds once iv'e removed the text
no copyright problem there ?
| dUMb - er?
| Day: 21
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But really, who IS this Julie-on-the-brain girl? Not the girl you're having an affair with, is it?
Just don't call her name out when you're in bed with Lucy, er, Linda
| Midnite Cruiser
| Day: 21
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| db
| Day: 21
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typed Julie.... easy mistake
my photo's from this afternoon's soujourn feature a fat bloke ..can't be me
www'lindunk.co.uk last man standing..
I'm of to zewataneueo in my head IE i miss my friends...
| Midnite Cruiser
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| StAlphonzo
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| dUMb?
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| db
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| db
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being as this is a new board ?
| Duncan
| Day: 21
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The true reporter of the 90's since D&W abdication
| Aussie
| Day: 21
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| MC again....quickly
| Day: 21
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aka
Midnite Cruiser + OptiMystic
| duncan
| Day: 21
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WJAZ my man!!!!
| Duncan
| Day: 21
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read & laugh..
F.A.O. MR D.E. FRENCH
06/12/2001
CAB Ref DEF/AE2526
RE: EMPLOYMENT ISSUE MR K.SLUDDS
Butterfield & Mr. Davies where both present a verbal warning was issued to
Mr. Sludds resulting from a major traffic accident dated 31st March 2001
where he ran into the rear of a stationary car, sending the female driver &
both children to hospital.
They consequently sued the company's insurers for approx £9000.00.
probation period to last no longer than 12 months.
At the meeting Mr. Sludds was made fully aware that should any further
motoring accidents occurred during the 12 months he would be responsible for
the repairs to which he fully agreed, understood & accepted.
Mr. Sludds accident dated Wednesday 19th September was the result of a gross
act of misconduct on his behalf.
He drove the company's vehicle across a closed road end, Across a pedestrian
pavement & turning directly onto the main Darlington ring road. (Please see
attached photos)
During this dangerous manoeuvere Mr. Sludds damaged the company's vehicle by
hitting the bollard shown in the photo, endangered his own life & the life
of a fellow employee present in the vehicle at the time.
This accident occurred whilst Mr. Sludds was NOT on official Graphic Systems
business thus rendering the insurance void (please see attached copy of
policy document item 6 Limitations of use section A)
Mr. Sludds also during this manoeuvere put his own driving license at risk.
nature of the accident, and only when taken back to the place of accident by
myself did the true facts become apparent.
around £1100.00 - £1600.00 with the excess of £300.00 to be paid by
ourselves
(Together with the £300.00 from the previous accident dated 31st March 2001)
quiet readily accepted this fact.
occurrence Mr. Sludds employment was not in question & his employment with
Graphic Systems would continue if satisfactory repairs where undertaken to
the damaged vehicle.
conduct to run for a further 12 months from 19th September 2001 which he
accepted.
£600.00 excess we now have to pay.
in various company vehicles sending our monthly insurance premium from
£291.81 to £585.90.
2001 leaving when it became apparent we wanted him to pay for the repairs to
the vehicle, as agreed by Mr. Sludds on 4th April 2001.
various estimates for repairs should you wish to see them.
sorry matter.
hard worker we were very sorry to lose him & wish him all the best in his
chosen future career.
Director: Graphic Systems
.......................
the end hapy christmas to all.
Leeds players don't even start on that one..
| Aja.............................................outta here for the holidays!
| Day: 21
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Aja
| Miz Ducky
| Day: 21
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(unique geek freak with a beak?)
| W1P
| Day: 21
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Hiway Song and Train, Train by Blackfoot?
Midnight Rendezvous and Lookin for Love by the Babys.
Enter Sandman, Metallica.
Echoes, Floyd.
Drivin Wheel, Foghat.
Mustang Sally, Wilson Pickett.
The Hustler, Journey.
IGY, DF.
Turn the Page, Seger.
Cowboy Song, Thin Lizzy.
Breakin the Chains, Dokken
Where the Streets Have No Name U2
Pardon Me, Incubus
Hey Man, Nice Shot Filter
Kryptonite 3 Doors Down
Why Pearl Jam
All Apologies Nirvana
Wicked Garden Stone Temple Pilots
Behind the Wall of Sleep Smithereens
Hunger Strike Temple of the Dog
Los Angeles X
I Don't Care About You, Fear
God Save the Queen (I mean it, man) Pistols
| angel
| Day: 21
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| StAlphonzo
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| µ
| Day: 21
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§: You've fallen into Ben's trap. I think the title track single was probably released as a "gesture" to the recording industry.
Nettwerk Records will release Neil Finn's album in April for US/Canadian distribution. Since it's assumed Americans won't get the joke (which is a safe one), they'll call it "One All" instead of One Nil. The cover will include less Al Gore earth tones and more blue, and some new songs added, and others dropped - no other details about the swaps...Neil does have a new live CD and DVD (Sessions ant West 54th) out
Songs guaranteed to get ya a speeding ticket:
For congested traffic: the soothing sounds of Larry Carlton - Sleepwalk
| Bill @ CenturysEnd.com
| Day: 21
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up any modern stuff on the radio :)
-"Rollover Beethoven"
-"Turn To Stone"
- "Your secrets safe with me"
- "Long Slow Distance"
- "Crayon Sun" produced by Walter Becker
- "Practice Makes Perfect"
- "A Fools Errand"
- "Monks New Tune"
- "Going Somewhere"
- "Waiting for my real life to begin"
- "Don't wait up"
- "Don't Answer Me"
- "Days are Numbers"
- "Standing on Higher Ground"
- "Psychobabble"
- "Prime Time"
| StAlphonzo
| Day: 21
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- Come As You Are *live* (String Cheese Incident)
- Slave To The Traffic Light *live* (Phish)
- Fuller Brush Man (James McMurtry)
- Brian Wilson (Barenaked Ladies)
- Beautiful Day (U2)
- Crush (Dave Matthews Band)
- West of Hollywood (Steely Who?)
- What is Hip (Tower Of Power) Ok, so this is an old one...
- Dinah-Moe Hum (Frank Zappa) and so is that one but no road trip is complete without a little Frank.
| Jaydubz
| Day: 21
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| Mr.Sticks
| Day: 21
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We at the SFB wish everyone a great holiday season and a happy new year!
With that we'd like to help you bring in the new year and spread some Steely holiday cheer with you all!
Please join us as we kick off New Year's Eve weekend and party with us at
HOGUE BARMICHAELS BAR AND GRILLE in Newport Beach,Ca.
We will have a special performance NEXT SATURDAY Night ,Dec.29th
at 9:00pm!
Hougues is located at :
3950 Campus Blvd.
Newport Beach..On the corner of Bristol & Campus
949-261-6270
Tickets are $10.00 at the door.
Also appearing on the bill will be a tribute to The ROLLING STONES performed by STICKY FINGERS!
Come out and celebrate with us as this will be a great night of music!
Thanks
Mr.Sticks
Steely Fan Band
www.steelyfanband.com
| luckless pedestrian
| Day: 21
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under the milky way - the church
the way - fastball
abacab - genesis
green flower streeet - ny rock and soul revue version preferable
texarkana - rem
on the border - al stewart
uncertain smile - the the
earache my eye - cheech and chong (cuz it makes you laugh no matter how many times you hear it, but only in the privacy of your own car)
the road to hell - chris rea
sailing to philadelphia - mark knopfler with james taylor
senses working overtime - xtc
| Floridavid
| Day: 21
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This same Mike Ruff lived in the early seventies in Manchester Connecticut along with my long time Keyboard player/partner Pete. They used to cut class in High school and play Duel Pianos in the Music rooms.
Mike sold the Equipment he got from the Broken up Stovall Brown Band and bought a plane ticket to LA. Once there, he auditioned for Dan Hill ("You left me, just when I needed you most")did a series of dates and got a Seq. Prophet 5 out of the deal.Then he auditioned for Jose Feliciano...same deal... some gigs and a free yamaha electric grand piano.
After that he toured with Chaka Kahn ( as keyboards and musical director)
Lionel Ritchie and others. At this time Mike and singer/songwriter Karla Bonoff were living together in LA. I don't know If they ever married. They Came out to our Gig in Connecticut in the late Eighties while he was in Hartford with Lionel Ritchie.Around this time Mike got a record deal with Warner Brothers and released an Album called "Once in a lifetime". David
| edbeatty
| Day: 21
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Ed
| But really, now, B
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| WJAZ
| Day: 21
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Driving Tunes?
How about...
Route 101 - Herb Alpert
Bodhisattva - by, leessee, now who did that one....
some type of NC law that you can't drive under 55 mph while these
are playing...
| Midnite Cruiser
| Day: 21
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| YGK
| Day: 21
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| Blaise
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| angel
| Day: 21
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Will have to check out the comment at that time, I think I missed that line. Paul Griffin, yes it is indeed good that he was taped at that time.
I was told by a source who knows much more then I, that Dean's shots were done at a hotel. The producers put him up there, just to do the taping. I had assumed originally that the pool was in his back yard, or something.
My only criticism of the tape is that we have to view Steely Dan through a British screen. Sad that our own country can't do wonderful inciteful, meaningful work, like we see on that tape. (No criticism of the British people meant, just showing a loss on the American journalism side.)
| Q
| Day: 21
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| blazer rouge on reverse
| Day: 21
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Looking forward to that.
'preciate it.
"everyone here is oh so fired!"
| Mo' Better Blaise
| Day: 21
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for I consider the rest of the album very close to a nowadays Nightfly, albeit for different reasons. I predict it'll go platinum in twenty years just the same.
Whatever...
Hall and Oates? Driving songs? I'll have to get back to you on those, I guess.
Ahh... such mystery... sigh
You know... if you weren't so closely associated with Donald Fagen, and if this wasn't seen as second-guessing the Man himself, I'd have a ggod mind to show you guys how it's done, how one can remain respectful of both the band AND the fans all at the same time. It's possible, look around. I don't understand the stance taken. It's a two-way street, you know, always.
I think someone should be reminded.
| steviedan
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| Bill @ Junglemusic.com
| Day: 20
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somewhat commercialized music but it was still good.
Once in a while you'll hear "You make my dreams come
true" on the radio and you still gotta listen to it
no?
"Tragic Surf" - The Motels (love the guitar outtro)
"Everybody went low" - John Hiatt
"Day of the Eagle" - Robin Trower
"Kid" - The Pretenders
"Pulling muscles from a shell" - Squeeze
"Everything is Broken" - Bob Dylan
"Godzilla" - Who did that song again?
"Lawyers, Guns, and Money" - Warren Zevon
"Breakdown" - Alan Parsons
"Time" - Pink Floyd
"Highway Star" - Deep Purple
"Roam" - The B52's
"Is that you Mo Dean?" - The B52's
"Sedated" - The Ramones
"Rockin' in the Free World" - Neil Young
"Morrison" - CPR (Crosby, Pevar & Raymond)
"PsychoKiller" - Talking Heads
"Soul Kitchen" - The Doors
| µ - some kind of envelope filter thing
| Day: 20
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| Jaydubz
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| jjeff
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| jjeff
| Day: 20
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810 Tones: I hadn't heard who was nominated let alone inducted into RRHOF. It was nice to read your blurb on the Heads. Love'em but never saw'em like most of my aural chefs.
Tubes!!! Man, I had the world by the ass when Completion Backwords Principle came out. I'd heard the rare piece on FM(WPOD), but until I heard Amnesia I wasn't interested enough to follow up. That little trip at the end told me that these cats were cool and the fire started from there. I was surprised to read that Todd was producing them before Love Bomb. I had heard that there was a big fight within the band because of his overpowering influence on the album, and it was overpowering. Notice the similarities between that album and XTC's Skylarking? I like both albums but that WOULD piss a band off to have your creation drenched in that "mark". If I wanted to hear TR I'd buy a TR album.
| YGK
| Day: 20
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Aus, no pix of my tools and 'quipment, but u no how it iz!!! LOL U saw 'em in person!!! Impressive, no?
ROFLMAO! BE good - Ramadan just completed!!!
And give my regards to Susan! LOLOL Hoping for some APG!
| eLLe
| Day: 20
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he's getting back into it.
L-M-A-O ~~~literally!! thanks for the SnowMoon!
| eLLe
| Day: 20
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Have a wonderful Holiday Season.
: ))))
eLLe
| eLLe
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| StAlphonzo
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| **K7K7
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++++^^^not responsible for him or his cash flow probK7K7ocaine certainly won't *elpK7K7"shit, they're on the first floor already; they'll be bounding through this door any seconK7K7++++^^^THERE'S NO TIME!:::et some clothes on her and get rid of her:::K7K7on't take the suitcase, you maggot!K7K7+++:::hat the hell is wrong with you, anyway?347960^^^an't see from here000K7K7five too many hits of^^^end of transmission
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I was trying to see why I so missed Ricky Lawson's fabulous drumming on the tape. I have watched up to Josie (the first 1/3 of the program) and he was shown about 2 times, with anything more then a passing shot. Again, a victim of the "unique" editing on that show.
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Happy Birthday..Mam'zelle Canard'able!!! Wishing you many more...
All the best to those celebrating anniversaries !!!
check your email!
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I'd like to know the exact input of the Drone vs the Boys on the ODP, strictly for heuristic purposes, you know. I know Some Mailing = Some Band Activitity. I got that much.
Tones - Rebound.
Ditto here.
Nice to see Gina wired up again.
There, I shall have no enemies nor harbor any grievances.
Outta here.
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Aja, lorsque j'en aurai fini de mes danses à dix sous, I'll run to you...
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Alrighty.
Clas, now you go easy on your neighbor Simon. Simon said not that he ever came back from the hockey rink. He found his groove somwhere between Peg and Kid C and hung on to it. Or maybe it's just a re-post from the summer 2000 and someone is taking us for a ride again... hmmm
| Blaise
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Maybe some fries?
The roast Beef combo's only 9.95
It's ok you don't have to pay
I've got all the change..."
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Steveedan
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| eLLe
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yeah, a picture says a thousand words..or notes..or chords..whatever..
Happy Holidays to.. well you know who u are...
cheers!!
eLLe
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Insomniac's Special:
12:10AM
Becker calling in to KKCR, live stream at
www.kkcr.org/live/live.html
Fatha Wm--I am nothing if not inconsistent. So should I let you know when "the Beagle has landed"?
Blaise--there is actually an extended, amusing FAQ on the newsletter which is worth reading even if you don't have a frequently asked question.
Tones--Personal favorite: "Don't Touch Me There."
Mu--re Making of Aja--I was put out that "I Got The News" was relegated to the closing credits. Did they not really like it? Or was there just not time to talk about it? It made me sad to see Paul Griffin; he has since died.
Maybe they DID ask Sonny Rollins....
Mazel tov, Hank. Many more to you & Miz Silvers.
Aja: That's funny...I had a fantasy of you wearing scrubs as well...but we won't go there. e-me (see above)...our macrocomputer has given our e-mailboxes a high memory colonic...
lp: I took the opportunity this evening to watch the first 25 min. again. Two things are clear. We all knew the album was sophisticated, but this production makes one truly appreciated how much detail and effort and thought and creativity was put into this work of art. Donald delights in dissecting the tracks apart showing at time how and individual track might not sound like much or even like crap alone, but when integrated into sections or the whole production, magic occurs!!!! Secondly, this video production is well-edited and well put together...while TMOA was played by some VH-1 outlets outside the US, fortunately, it was not produced by those clowns.
There were a number of recurring themes that permeate the production including a real professional pride of being part of something special and lasting, something not dated...appreciating the professional and real care for music that Donald and Walter fostered and lived by
Rick Marotta recalls how he would add nuances in Peg like hitting the high hat with it slightly open. He smiled as he remarked that, unlike other folks' albums, you could actually HEAR it on Aja...that to D&W and the Immortal!
Nice piece of editing going back and forth between Walter and Chuck Rainey on the EVOLUTION of the bass line in Josie.... Walter presented a short chart to Rainey. Then Rainey and Walter work together to turn something ordinary into extraordinary...oh yeah, a great moment occurs when Rainey explains how he slipped some dreaded bass-slapping in on Peg...how he turned 90 degrees and put a partition up - hilarious!!
Dean Parks beams in a most understated manner, about the whole process...
Closer inspection of Carlton's segment and the segment before was warranted, I payed attention closer to some details. Walter mentioned that they let Carlton write his won charts (another piece of super editing)...when they cut to Carlton, I noticed that the camera angle was from way below,..so body language such as an apparantly arched neck were probably parallax error...perhaps Carlton is portraying himself in his way as a team player. When an album is of this large a magnitude, some duties have to be deligated. I noticed how neat Carlton's writing was: just compare the Aja rhythm guitar chart to the Josie chart (probably Fagen's)...I imagine Omartian with neat handwriting as well. Charts that are easy to sight read, which was a key to according to Donald. Also, someone who's read all the charts and can calm baffled members of the revolving door bands would be a stabilizing force...as Walter and Donald are thinking: is this thing working or not?
I don't have to remention the Peg guitar 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 guitarists schtick...it speaks for itself...
just poppin' in for a sec....one more 12 hour day tomorrow and i'll be free for the rest of the year!
Hank Silvers....Congratulations to you + Pat!! She's a lucky woman to have a man like you but I suspect you'd say that you were the lucky one to have her in your life....you're just that kinda guy.....all our best to the both of you and the fur kids!!
saw the Tubes at King's Dominion in Richmond back in the early 80's.....good show....never got into them before that.
Angel....just an icon I use at another chat site....I've got a ton of them.....all Midnite Cruiser stuff.
off to the ODP to see what's up....hurry up and sleep so I can hurry up and work.....c'mon 7pm Thursday!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey everyone,
Riding a dinosaur right now, so we'll see if this post actually makes it. Today I get to do something I haven't done in a long, long time-go straight home after work! 11 days of vacation coming soon, but my brain left sometime this morning.....
lp-injunctified? What's happening out there? Sending good thoughts and prayers your way, and hoping a great new job is just around the corner.
Hey Cyn, I see you waving out there! I'm sitting here covered in flour, chocolate and peppermint. What EVER made me think I was Betty Crocker? Say hey to Jim# and Mrs. # for me this weekend. Are you in for 'Nawlins in April? Say yes!
Hi Dr. Mu! Having fantasies of wearing scrubs again. I just encouraged a 50 year old co-worker to can this place and pursue his love of physics. He's seriously considering it, and I might be behind him. If you still have my e-mail, I wouldn't mind hearing your thoughts on the best way to keep my science base afloat.
Blaisie-he may have a fighter jet, but he can't speak French....
Hi wt-I must have felt your summoning, 'cause it's time for a dime dance ;o)
Humorous nod to our boys: on a rerun of "Sex and the City" a few weeks ago one of the characters was posing nude. To get her in the mood the photographer suggested putting on Steely Dan.
Hi tones, great to have you back!
Back to the dime dance,
Aja
happy birthday the the infamous Mz Ducky and to you too my dear Green Earring
thanks to all for the kind thoughts - my resume is now polished off and looks pretty good, we'll see what's out there after the new year, who knows - in the meantime, i'm knuckling down, battening down my hatches and trying to stay crystal clean - there are people in this world alot more worse off than i
almost done christmas shopping too, a good thing - hosting my office christmas party friday night, a venerable june cleaver shin dig for sure, egg nog from scratch anyone, made from fresh eggs from the farm!
yes, let's not start the dead discussion again, i totally agree - and steve perry, well, okay, GE, do tell the story and we'll end it there - lol
welcome back to cable/digital access to gina
larry carlton i found to be completely professional, almost dry in the making of aja - i saw his influence on steely dan cuts as phenomenal and i can always pick his style out of the crowd - now some of his solo releases? well, we won't go there, i'm sure it pays the bills - dust settles on my christmas release he did
other points on aja video - i love the purdie discussion, he must have driven those guys crazy in studio - and, one of the best lines in the video was the "no fart jokes with these guys", that cracked me up - do you think dean would come to one of my parties, would love that, wouldn't you?
my condolences to the city of new york for the loss of yet another really great structure, yes, what else?
i got really burnt out on the tubes, so not much to add there
yes on the bare trees release by fleetwood mac, another treat, and rare - i still have my lp of it to give to my grandchildren
thanks again - be back in good spirits soon
October 19, 2000 at the Roxy on the Sunset Strip -- Fee Waybill dragged my wife on stage to play "Whattya Want From Life." The final question was "How Many Of Each Species Did did Moses take on the Ark?" My drunk wife answered "two" and lost the chance at $10.00 (US). I have a big chunk of that on video!
Well, you can't have that, but, if you're an American citizen, you are entitled to . . . . . . .
Nice forum, decided to pick up on a couple of themes. I saw The Tubes a couple of days ago in Stockholm and they gave a really high energy performance. The theatricals were less pivotal and Fee gave it all but the music sounded better than it had in the past now that you could focus on it. Roger Steen played very solidly and Prarie Prince....well I'm a 40+ drummer and that 50+ guy kicked royal ass for two solid hours, say no more.
Caught Steely Dan in Stockholm this year and just wanted to say that they had a show stopper in the medley of Kid C and Peg. People just went mad, it was as though all the emotion of the 20 years of waiting to show their appreciation for the 'life changing' music was too much for the audience and they all stood up and went on and on applauding, I had tear filled eyes, I tell ya. Don and Walt didn't quite know what to do so in the end told everybody to sit down as the show wasn't over and that there were a couple more songs left. Never experienced anything like it.
NO JOURNEY THREADS ALLOWED. Unless, of course, your story involves Greg Rollie.
Stevie: Boy, normally you're spot on in your posts but I've got to side with T on this one. The Dead went places, musically speaking, few bands would ever consider. From a purely technical standpoint I think I see what you're driving at, however, the beauty of the Dead is the lack of the rigid rules in their live shows. This is why the "technical" term simply doesn't fit with their music. In this case thank god! I've always felt if I want technical, I'll listen to Crimson. Otherwise...
And before anyone starts beating on the Dead and their apparent lack of "talent", save it. It's a worn out thread. Like licorice baby, you either love it or hate it...
First, Happy Belated B-Day Ducks having just celebrated one more of my own. It's a bitch getting older but you look no worse for wear unlike myself.
Anyway, enjoying the Tubes discussion and concur on the under rated concept. I had a brush with Fee Waybill in 1985 or '86 just as the band was breaking up with some insight straight from Fee's mouth. I worked at a recording studio in San Francisco that also rented out gear to other studios in the Bay Area. I usually voluntered to take the equipment to these studios just in case there were some "stars" around and to see the studios.
The Tubes had a studio/loft/rehersal space in the Mission District of S.F and I think Fee also lived there by the way he was dressed when he would answer the door. He usually rented four channels of gates but thats only for the techies out there.
Twice I got up into the rehersal space and chatted a little with him one on one. This was about a year after "She's a Beauty" came out and it was known that the band was breaking up. I asked Fee why and he said he didn't really know. He said they had struggled for years trying to get the respect and commercial acceptence that he thought they all wanted, but once "She's A Beauty" had become a hit and "Talk To Ya Later" as well, the rest of the band thought they had sold out and "gone commercial". He was discouraged that they finally were a hit and the rest of the band wanted to do more avant'gard stuff or focus on their own projects. It was clear that he wanted to continue on the hit track but stood alone.
He was always very nice and had no pretenciousness at all. Just my own little brush with greatness and if we ever (God Forbid) get on a Journey thread, I'll tell you my Steve Perry story.
Hang in there LP and hello to all my chat buddies.
GE
Clas,§,
Re-read my original post...In my first viewing the purpose was to let the whole thing wash over and get into the musical personalities...I wanted to get a feel for them as human beings who are incredible and creative musicians...as well as D&W doing their act at the board...I was just going for the vibe...next time, I'll focus in on more technical details...
No agenda Clas - at least on my end - I was actually just a little surprised at Carlton's vibe...I am in no way suggesting hew wa not very important...but didn't the vibe smack of a guy coming on and saying..."Yeah, I'm the Fifth Beatle?"
anti-Carlton? ...are you crazy? are you high? His lyrical to biting solos on Kid C, TWM, DTMA, Fez, and his really tasty stuff on Aja and The Nightfly are pure genius...I have a good number of his early solo albums and dig 'em...but then if you'd been paying attention the past few years, you'd know that.
I already knew about his Omartian-like role on Aja...
Besides... we know the truth...and I, for one, certainly won't let any additional facts that may come out in either direction change that ;-0
re: Sonny Rollins: both DF and WB have testified that they are fans of his, so there must be another reason (or two) they didn't get him to play on a SD recording. (Trivia time: that's a Sonny Rollins album on the cover of The Nightfly.)
ODP: So maybe it's the cover of the long-awaited cash-in Christmas album? Like, imagine Donald singing "White Christmas," adding a new bridge and some interesting chords to the tune...
Mam'zelle D: Feelin' all of 45? Well, may you always be going on 15 between the ears, where it matters!
Speaking of time flying, today is the 17th anniversary for Pat + me. (TYFGMAHH, BB!) A very good memory is sitting on the lawn with her at the Garden State Arts Center in 1992, enjoying the New York Rock & Soul Revue. True love and live Steely Dan music -- like...wow, y'know?
BTW, we came up with together a virtual card for the holidays, and there's a link to it in the "Homepage" space above.
Got the afternoon plus the next 13 days off from work. Enjoy your holidays!
What do YOU want from life???
Well, you can't have that, but if you're an American citizen you
are entitled to:
a heated kidney shaped pool,
a microwave oven--don't watch the food cook,
a Dyna-Gym--I'll personally demonstrate it in the privacy of your own home,
a king-size Titanic unsinkable Molly Brown waterbed with polybendum,
a foolproof plan and an airtight alibi,
real simulated Indian jewelry,
a Gucci shoetree,
a year's supply of antibiotics,
a personally autographed picture of Randy Mantooth
and Bob Dylan's new unlisted phone number,
a beautifully restored 3rd Reich swizzle stick,
Rosemary's baby,
a dream date in kneepads with Paul Williams,
a new Matador, a new mastodon,
a Maverick, a Mustang, a Montego,
a Merc Montclair, a Mark IV, a meteor,
a Mercedes, an MG, or a Malibu,
a Mort Moriarty, a Maserati, a Mac truck,
a Mazda, a new Monza, or a moped,
a Winnebago--Hell, a herd of Winnebago's we're giving 'em away,
or how about a McCulloch chainsaw,
a Las Vegas wedding,
a Mexican divorce,
a solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot,
or a baby's arm holding an apple?
Gotta' love those Tubes!
A Big Happy Birthday to Miz Ducky! Still a spring chicken baby.
Everyone- Hope your enjoying the Holiday Season. David
(805) Ole: Pretty impressive coup. :-)
So, I am now officially signed up for the newsletter. I hope that means something good is happening soon.
(816) Blaise: Yes! Those deer jumped right off Donald's shirt. Do you think the Webdrone saw Snowbound? Check out the Ho Ho Homepage, on the ODP, if you don't know what we are refering to.
(800)Miz Ducky: You know "hippo birdies two ewes"! It was one of my favorite birthday cards, when I was a kid.
(780) MC: Cool logo. You adding that to your web pages?
(795) Aussie: Any idea what caused the fire?
I am still spending quite a bit of time listening to the 2000 concerts. What totally blows me away is the sheer POWER of Ricky Lawson's drumming.
I never noticed anything unusual on the Plush, but boy does he come through
in a concert setting. Awesome stuff.
the following is a dan shirt on ebay
it's a fake - nice job
notice the tour cities on the back
they definitely didn't do New Orleans in 00
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1497587056
happy belated birthday to Miss ducklet
Christmas is coming,
The goose is getting fat,
Won't you please put a penny in the old mans hat,
If you haven't got a penny,
A hay' penny will do,
If you haven't got a hay' penny,
God Bless you......
From "Christmas Carols that should have been done by the Dan"
Fleetwood Mac? Lets not forget one of their best albums...Bare Trees!
I'm going to visit Jim# and Mrs.# on Friday...He says we're going CD shopping, I asked if we could go try on hats, too. He said "Of Course"..hes way too much of a Southern Gentleman to say ...HELL, NO! I have a Feeling I'll be spending a long time on my knees in Church that Sunday. Either asking for forgivness or I'll be too woozy to stand up.
Jim# says he'll meet me at that "Confounded Bridge...with a police escort.
Dif..where are you???? We miss you and hope you're OK..
Chere..mon petite chou..Sorry I missed you the other night! But read your post..and I'm sending Face down to rid you of your problem, Then you'll be assured a Merry Christmas.
810 tohnz
the real neglected genius in fleetwood mac was Bob Welch
take a listen to Bare Trees, Heroes are Hard to Find or "mind blank"
that other great Welch era disc (avoid Penguin)
Plant/Page saw several stops on the 98 tour, highlight was Memphis closer
the bass player is inept - and also Robert's son in law
coincidence? thinkith not
tubes! while most were jamming to Boys are Back in Town
I was grooving to "WHite Punks On Dope"
77 I think
795 Aussie, things just continue to spiral out of control in NYC
now St John's Cathedral
813 StevieD - Sue Mingus said that Sonny Rollins lives within a few blocks of the world trade centers and saw the whole thing out his window
Yes why didn't the Dan ever bring Sonny on-board
mu - I too wish Denny Diaz was given the nod to play at the Hall of Fame gig. Perhaps the networks thought Shafer brought a certain hipness
if he did it was lacking on me
Gina - I haven't forgot, I just messed up my back last week
bad muscle pull. Heads up, RIckie Lee Jones' Live at Red Rocks Disc is out
nice to hear all the new enthusiasm over Making of Aja
speaking of Aja, she's due for a banyan tree bow
wormy
Hey there Gina! Thanks for the Caldera tape. I saw where you hadn't seen my earlier post saying I had received it. It's great to hear more of them after all these years. How is that Gaucho, amigo?
Good morning Blaiser!
steviedude - yes, I'm a fellow s.b.m. sufferer, though my variation is has been diagnosed as a.c.b.d. (Anticipatory Confusion Birthday Disorder) in my mother's case, because I annually call her a week early thinking I've finally got it right. But hey, it's nice to know someone understands... thanks for feeling my pain.
Yep, Vince Welnick was in the Tubes, and played with Todd. I think (thanks for askin') the Tubes best album is Young and Rich, their second, It's just great from beginning to end. The same can be said for their 1st album actually, which is so good it's a little hard to grasp that it was a debut album. Their musicianship and songwriting was incredible. And they turned the idea of theatrical rock on itself. Their societal parody concept, though not original, was so ahead of it's time in it's presentation, so fully formed and well executed on their first album, it was too much for radio. It was like they'd been around forever, but they had no history. Also, as great (and still relevant) as the concept was, it was kind of redundant by the 3rd album, which was the first one produced by Todd. Remote Control is a good album, but I've heard one of the criticisms made of it at the time was it sounded more like Todd than the Tubes, which may be true, and not a bad thing if you like Todd. I'm not as into the more pop Tubes stuff like 'She's a Beauty', though it was ok for what it was. They could have had a huge hit if they had released 'Tip of My Tongue' ;-P from Outside/Inside, which sounds like vintage Earth Wind and Fire (I swear!). Love Bomb, their last album (also produced by Todd) was much better than anybody noticed, my sole problem with it being the song order on side one... As good as they were live with the whole production and everything, the most I every enjoyed them live was when they played a week of shows in '85 before the original band broke up, without any props, and they took requests and played any song from their catalog for their hard-core fans. It was a blast, and I didn't even know the songs like I do now.
Again, thanks for asking. :-)
I gotta say though, I disagree about the size of the Dead's table. Any given year, up to 180+ different songs were played in concert, of *all* genres, *and* group improvisation, and they performed for nearly thirty years in primarily a *rock* context. That's the palette they were working with. The Grateful Dead have gone places in music and sound that no one has ever visited, and after losing Brent Mydland (who after ten years had really gained some incredibly rich knowledge; enough to blow Hornsby away {meaning he was visibly impressed} when he first gigged with the Dead at Laguna Seca in '86), the core of the Dead had to scale way back musically to work in Vince Welnick and Hornsby. That's what my friends were primarily reacting to. And the fact that the Dead were also trying to work in a new sound man, after splitting with their long time engineer Dan Healy, didn't help the transition much either; imagine Roger Nichols walking out and you'd have a rough idea.
I have to say though I have no idea the size of the table Hornsby is working with, having only heard with they play on the radio. From what I read here though I'm going to have to give him a listen.
Too tired for typos...
toodles!
t
Howdy, scrolled way fast but slow enough to see some of my fav GB-ers around these premises, a warm warm feeling :-)
Steveedan, you once said something really lucid about John Beasley and you can read some if it on his website if you (or anyone else) should care ...
The URL above is the link to John Beasley's site.
Cable internet will be back into my life starting tomorrow, so i can really read up these Trees without the pressure of that lame dial up stuff ...
Happy Banyan Trees Daze,
Smooch, G.
Fact (as seen on CNN): there is a sanctionned philo course offered somewhere in Michigan on Homer Simpson's "Weltanschung". Fine, fine curriculum...
And those two deers are now on the ODP, Clas. Check it out. There is something there...
But I disgress.
ahem
Christmas already? You don't say...
So now that we've subscribed, it says there is one by Christmas, hmmm. Renewed activity, I think that's good news for a possible spring release, imho.
“But I read people well and he just seemed WAY to eager to pimp his role”, this coming from a practicing scientist... relying on hearsay, old wives tales, superstition to get to the truth. I'm sure the band had a hand in choosing the final shots, including that one with the charts signed Larry Carlton as well as his whole testimony.
You, Mu, if you hadn't brought up Ben Folds, I'm telling ya...
ODP update? Darn. Got beaten to the scoop yet again.
You, ole, if you didn't have that web site...
What if, like me, you changed email addresses since the last newsletter? More than likely since it's been awhile. What does it say?
SOOOO original ! that's what i quipped to the teens gumming up the works in wendy's drive-thru, trying to "walk-thru" (har har har). my wry commentary seemed to deflate them a bit and i think they would have preferred anger on my part. it was so effective that i even felt bad for reducing their fun level. the towel thing is a little more creative, if equally moronic...
what ever happened to good old fashion drugs & vandalism ?
listening to sonny rollins "on impulse". why have d & w never used him ? he's stylistically perfect and has done some pop dates. one of the great unanswered questions for me...
is the dvd of m.o.a. expanded from the vhs ? i own both (it is one of the three dvd's i own) and have watched the video, but i don't own a dvd player yet. i could borrow one in the interim to watch it if it's worth the trouble. ditto "plush" (there's dvd number two). i know they look and most importantly, sound better but is the program content the same ?
... and speaking of larry c. any brave souls check out his new one yet ?
w1p, steve gadd in james' gang you say ? who else was with him, if you know ?
so tones, you also suffer s.b.m. (Selective Birthday Memory) ? that is a dangerous condition, i have found. i have been given many treatments for it, though i doubt that i'm fully cured. mine is actually s.d.b.m. (Slightly Delayed Birthday Memory), but that's just as bad...
twotones: wasn't welnick with the tubes ? he's also played with our boy todd, who also produced the tubes. right ? what would you consider their best work ? re: "horn-ins-by" ? the dead didn't have a table big enough to hold what hornsby brought to it, and i say that with no disrepect to the dead (i own a bunch of their stuff and enjoy them). he just plays a level or two or three up from the members of the gd and was holding back immensely in his sideman role, in my opinion.
gonadz, c'mon man that guy was way too wazted to concoct that much enigma. "purtty" is just a southern black (or white) slangy dialect that sounds just like "pretty" to anyone from around here. anyway, purdie would NEVER stand in the audience. absurd.
Howard - yeah, I don't understand what Mu has against Carlton. Carlton had a great impact on AJA, he had a great impact on Royal Scam, and saying “But I read people well and he just seemed WAY to eager to pimp his role” is just ridiculous.
Everybody “reads” people well, we are like dogs, but in this case I think doc Mu just want to confirm his picture of the world, he's been a wellknown “anti-Carlton” long before he bought this video.
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Has anyone heard of the pianoplayer/singer Michael Ruff?
C
That would be the kids wearing the towels, not the media...
gorzedd - sorry dude, but it's impossible. In '74, Purdie was busy laying all the drum tracks for The Stones, The Who, and Led Zepplin to work with the Dan. Not that they didn't ask...
lp - when you said there was another genius in Fleetwood Mac, I thought for sure you were going to say Christine Mcvie... But yeah, I think Lindsey was pretty incredible too. I think Tusk is a great album, as is his own From the Cradle...
Aus - Great impressions in Crimson. Especially appreciated because I missed the boat this tour.
Wormster (707) - Page and Plant toured sans the small orhcestra in '98, and it was by far the best extra-Zepplelin experience I've seen to date. Page was playing better than I've ever heard him. He was blasing, but surprisingly lucid and direct (as opposed to some later Zeppelin I've heard), and he was displaying his years of experience. The set list was geared towards the lesser known in the Zep catalog, which I thought was great too. Plant sounded a bit weathered in his upper range, but he more than covered that with his incredible phrasing. And the drummer - played on the No Quarter and Walking Into Clarksdale cds and tours - was quite good; he didn't try to be Bonham but he repected the grooves, and had tons of energy. In fact, the weakest part of the show was the bass player, who really I really tried to cut some slack, but he just wasn't holding up his part of the stage. Technically he hit all of the right notes, but he was flat, as if he was so afraid of making a mistake that he couldn't *rock*. I could relate to what he was going through, but JPJ was *definitely* missed.
While I'm tossing off musical decisiveness as if I knew anything about anything... I really gained a lot of respect for Hornby as a musician when I saw the Other Ones, one of the first post-Jerry Dead projects I had seen Hornsby many times with the Dead, but never really thought he brought all that much to the party. In fact, some of my friends had dubbed him "Horn-in-sby". But when I saw him at the Other Ones, at one point in the show I saw him react to something being played by Bob Weir on guitar, and I saw him work a phrase over what Weir was playing that changed the whole tone of the improv. It was a nice moment musically. He has bigger ears than I had been giving him credit for. It may be I was just noticing for the first time since he was the only keyboard player that night instead of sharing the stage with Vince Welnick as he did in the Dead.
The Tubes anybody? Thought I'd just throw that out there...
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This just in from Fairfax, Ca: local kids were seen taunting the media who have swooped into town to bug John Walker's poor parents by wrapping towels around their heads and dancing around, calling themselves "The Towel-y Band". Media was last seen filming them, deperately soaking it up...
Now, back to your regularly scheduled mayhem...
steely peace
t
goreadd: Interesting obsession. Why I wonder? It's OK though, all viewpoints are welcome on this message board.
Ole: Posts two days in a row, WOW!! If only your email worked. The Beagle is in the mail.
I've wondered about the possibility that Purdie was in the audience watching and Aniton was taunting him because he wasn't playing with the band. What do you think?
Not to beat a dead horse.....but Dragons theory is internally inconsistant..he seems to agree w/ me and concede that Aniton says "purdy" one..whether or not Bernard is in the audience is totally IRRELEVANT to my theory Once you concede that Aniton says this, my theory prevails and any inconsistancies can be chalked up to drunkenness
Hey! Check out the ODP for some pretzel cheer and the revival of the Newsletter!
look out Linda's in chat
Waiting for Santa
Some people haven't seen the makin of Aja ...
still a few day more of this & i won't have to.
db
Two excellent women born on this date in history:
Mz Ducky and my mom!
Happy birthday Mz D!
And thanks. Maybe *now* I'll remember my mom's b-day...
:-D
t
MizDucky: YES, 2 great moments - and the producers were savvy enough to fade into theTuriq & Gunz rap video galvanizing the joke - that was very funny...my wife asked me why I was laughing so hard and I told her it was a $600,000 joke...
...as well as cut to Dias reiterating the ad story - and then saying D&W essentially took over the band...I truly wish they could have dumped Paul Schaffer and brought in Denny for the R&RHOF(S?)...Denny seemed like a really cool dude...
Thanks for the birthday wishes, all! Odometer flipped to 45 at a little past 3am PST (or just past 6am in NYC, where I first saw the light of day in Manhattan's Beth Israel Hospital).
JW--many thanks for the info, including the cautions, on the WX-5. May have to reassess because of the price--it'll take awhile for me to save that many pennies. Or I could just try ramping up on a good used acoustic clarinet--I'm no expert, but at least I know enough about those to shop the local pawn shops and used instrument exchanges for 'em without getting ripped off.
µ--ah yes, the "Making of Aja" video. Just watched it again the other night, as a matter of fact. Love all the wonderful little bits. My two personal favorite moments: 1) When Donald starts rapping "Uptown Baby/Deja Vu" over the intro to "Black Cow," causing Walter to crack up; 2) When Walter's recounting how he and Donald answered Denny Dias' musicians-wanted ad and Donald interjects that the ad included the proviso "no hangups," sending Walter into giggle-fits again (if memory serves me right, the ad actually said something more along the lines of "no assholes").
/the Mam'zelle
(hippo birdies to moi)
Oh for Pete's sake Bimmer!!!!.. just go to http://www.twistedtunes.com
and listen to walking round in womens' underwear to the tune of Walkin In a Winter Wonderland...laugh a little.. : )
cheers..
u know I was only joking..love yah kiddo
eLLe
Steve Gadd on the NBC Today show this morning -- backing James Taylor
Packing up the family gifts. Seems like there is never any time anymore. As MC says, just another couple of days and I'm free. I agree with that sentiment. Get me through this week and it is all downhill. I hope to have time to work on my website, when the holiday passes.
Mu: "Making Aja", a personal love of my SD life. Glad that you finally got to see it. Lisa G, are you reading this? Buy the thing.
Miz Ducky: Happy B'day! :-)
LP: Good Luck.
Howard: Carlton's playing on the title track and throught the album IS tasty. I can see him as the guy telling the other musicians to try it again or consoling them when another group tries the same song next, transcribing some of the charts (ex. the Aja chart). But I read psople well and he just seemed WAY to eager to pimp his role. He implied that some of the ideas that became the final product were his. Sorry, I've heard a lot of his solo stuff. Besides, the direct exchanges between Walter and Chuck Rainey or the guys and Purdie or Dias or Keltner or even Shorter disprove the all-importance of the Mr. Omnipotent Laison theory. Notice they didn't say..."Well, we talked with Larry and here's what we came up with." Plus they have done it with or without him...comments from Katz and Nichols also suggest who drove what...Having said that, there's no doubt that Fagen was comfortable with the sound they got from him (which he's never really reproduced on a solo project)...and I believe that he did contribute in a very important way with communication with the musicians...
Clas: Can't be Sample - wrong skin tone, no freckles, or goatee (does he still have this?), wrong head shape.
The Cathedral of St. John the Divine on Amsterdam Avenue and West 112th Street in Manhattan is on fire right now and the roof has caved in....sad. One of the oldest cathedrals around...and just before Christmas too.. How much more can New York take?
Aus
µ - enjoyed your comments about the Making of Aja, and agree with much of what you say. One thing I was surprised to hear you say though - Larry Carlton comes across as "extremely cocky"?
It's not the way I see him at all - to me, he's a very genuine, knowledgeable and tasteful player, not one to brag about his ability (unlike others on the video!).
Walter and Donald also talk about him with much respect - not only for his playing on the album, but also for his huge input with the charts and arrangements. Don't they also say that he acted as a reliable "glue" for the session players, doing a great job holding the rhythm section together throughout the many combinations of players, but also as an easy-going person who wasn't going to complain about doing 78 takes of such-and-such a song, and helping to keep the overall mood and vibe of the sessions together.
I love the extract they play of Larry's playing on Deacon Blues, also Walter's (Donald's?) beautifully understated comment - "Larry Carlton - tasty."
The female vocals on DB is certainly another highlight - I also love the trio version of Peg (drums/bass/keyboards). Sounds superb!
My only disappointment of this program is that they didn't do a track-by-track breakdown of Aja and Black Cow - presumably because of the missing multi-track master tapes (see recent liner notes).
Howard
dr Mu - “Was the other keyboard player Paul Griffin???”
Hey man, you should know, that's Pete's buddy, Joe Sample. He had a heartattack in Japan some years ago, fuckin' streetlife, I hope he's doin' better than it seems.
C
Sorry try this one..
The other side of the coin
TWM check out the link above ...
More depressed 80's pop stars.
db
Hadn't been in chat in a long time but ran into Face, Aussie and CHERE (!) last night.
I do believe in juju, I do I do I do...
Mid Cruiser - why I am off Xanax? To make a long story short:
Xanax is an excellent medicin, especially the Depote-pills. Combined with antidepressants such as Cipramil, Seroxat or Prozac etc, that's a whole new ballgame in treatment for panicattacks and phobias, and even depressions.
But though Xanax belongs to the bensodiazepine-group (you know, Valium, Rohypnol, Mogadon, etc etc) they are highly addictive, habit-forming.
And in the long run, they don't help unless you don't increase the dose. And I have realized that I am getting more tired, more depressed, more anxiety-ridden with those pills than I am without them.
So I am, after a long de-escalation, kissing Xanax goodbye. And that's freedom in a way.
I stick to the antidepressants though, they are good.
I guess any doc on this board are willing to agree with me about this matter.
C
dr Mu - dancing on the piano? Well, I hope so. Did you see mr Carltons charts? Funny, you didn't mention them in your review.
C
... through the percussion dept. between lessons and look ! there are jeff porcaro signature sticks for sale. too light for my tastes, and i can't believe he could use that weight with toto. i may pick some up anyway...
a blaise of light. ah, yes. sublime inspiration. what ??? you need to ask ? oh silly one ! why the fleetsama binmac, of course. the whole sequence. textbook...
bites on timbuk3 (mc/lp): "future so bright..." a great tune but not even their best. love "life is hard". near steely level irony. mc, the austin city limits appearance with ej was great programming and i was lucky to catch it, as well...
bites on orleans (mc/w1p/drgn): like tb3, orleans best material was not represented by "still the one". the album that it appeared on, "waking & dreaming", is a sleeper classic. john hall, the hoppen bros, wells kelly (another unfortunate spinal tappish drummer casualty) were one hell of a musical unit. great players and vocalists. they apparently continue to reunite. a few years ago they put out two volumes of (at that time) current live stuff. i found vol. 1 in a local store and in my search for vol. 2, ended up talking to larry hoppen on the phone for thirty minutes. he had actually RETURNED my call and i got my vol. 2 in short order. that's what happens when the limos stop coming...
happy birthduck ! like coltrane, may the horn bring you a love supreme...
mu, agreed you have your points in the literal sense. i still feel that hornsby's rhythmic concept has continued to move away from the draggy, ploddy rock drumming styles associated with the range or the dead. ironically his old drummer john molo, is plowing these days with phil lesh. a better fit...
Yes µ - The Making of Aja is very interesting. There are lots of things to pick up on in that DVD. Yes, that was Paul Griffin sitting in beside Donald. I do believe most if not all of what Larry Carlton had to say about the session. Larry was the guy who wrote all of the charts for the other musicians to play from.
Purdy is by far the funniest segment on the DVD. I crack up every time I watch it and he mentions whom he has played with. When he gets to dropping the name "Frank Sinatra" with his hand in the air I totally lose it.
Another funny part is when Donald and Walter are sitting at the mixing console and they play the various guitar solos they had for the song Peg. If you look at their faces while they are listening to the solos they decided not to use, you will notice that "Dan disdain" that makes them who they are. At one point Donald looks at Walter, then back at the camera and says: "Well. There you have it." Or something like that showing the obvious deficiency of the solo just played for us to hear. It is easy to imagine how scary a session with these guys must be.
I'd still give anything to have a chance to record with them, but, heavy therapy would probably be necessary after that.
Dragon - I don't think Purdie was in the audience for that intro to Bodhisattva. I believe Aniton was refering to the pretty girls in the audience. I don't think that Purdie was on the Steely Dan radar screen yet.
Happy Holidays everyone !!!
Steveedan
From Steely Dan Gold (Expanded Edition)
Bodhisattva (Live)
Jerome Aniton: spoken intro
Donald Fagen: piano (and laughs)
Walter Becker: bass
Jeff Porcaru & Jim Hodder: drums
Denny Dias & Jeff Baxter: guitars
Michael McDonald (keyboards & vocals)
Royce Jones (vocals & percussion)
Speaking of Purdie. The larger than life man hiself was swallowing the screen tonight as Texas was def'nitly set on fiyah...the Classic Albums DVD finally arrived.
Wow! It was beautiful to see Donald and Walter at the boards. The details of desire. I think ,besides the cleverness of the album, I was paying closest attention to and feeling out the personalities. The program revealed much about the human side of the giants that contributed to Aja - at least as musicians...
Donald - showed a mischevious side I suspected and read about, but hadn't seen...the schtick about the synth designed to provide a flute-like element into the horn mix - the FAO Schwartz analogy about musical bells in the kids section...also talking dryly about how after Chuck Berry and Little Richard how with Frankie Avalon that something was very wrong with music...
Walter seemed intermittantly glib and stiff...kind of the opposite of the concertw where Donald is distant and Walter waxes locqatious...
Denny Dias: a winsome, honest chap, with a self-effacing sense of humor. His head shaking and fretting in amusement and amazement about playing guitar parts, shifting between closed and open chords, that were not made or really impossible to be played on guitar on the title track were reminiscent of his feigned torture in playing the µ chords (see the Steely Dan songbook - Katy Lied or on the ODP...
Chuck Rainey - a very likable, warm, salt of the earth guy. If there was a person to get the straight story from - he'd be your man.
Was the other keyboard player Paul Griffin???
Gary Katz - seemed like the ultimate low-key behind the scenes guy
Roger Nichols - the ultimate professional and wizard who appreciates a plan coming together - you could see him marveling at the jigsaw puzzle as it assembled in the studio
Michael McDonald explained well the difficulty in singing all parts of those tight harmonies on Peg - they were really chords - where he tripled his vocals - how difficult indeed to keep the pitch...he demonstrated well the specific nuances that Donald and Walter wanted...indeed as we think about the forest or the whole of the album and their vision is that they knew exactly what they wanted ahead ot time - reiterating Roger's observations...
Dean Parks seemed like a humble guy also...was it Parks or Carlton that mentioned they played to perfection, then beyond to get a natural sound back?...
Then we have the "Embellishment Section"
Larry Carlton came off as extremely cocky...don't think we'll see him play with the guys again, even if he still had the old chops...I'd believe about 60% of what he had to say...
Purdie is quite a character and likeable - the ultimate showman. Walter's anecdote about the 2 signs cracked me up. Then the list of artists Purdie worked with (or imagined...) in the 60s goes on and fades out. Absolutely Classic. His introduction of the guys to the Purdie shuffle was stellar as well... It was like he was giving them a freakin' deli menu list. you want 1/2 time, a little funky..a little of this, a little of that...I'd believe about 40% of what he had to say - kind of like a Don King, except with real talent and a pursuit of excellence, eh?...It would be hard to get angry at the guy - ya just slough it off...
I'll have to watch TMOA many times over the Holidays. Suffice to say the many layers of brilliance and the synergistic manner in which the different tracks add to the fullness of the recordings...some layers of the onion were truly diamonds. I was particularly impressed with the soulful backup singing in Deacon Blues...
Oh, yeah...Shorter was more down to earth than I expected. His impression of Miles was a killer..."don't give anything away..." he rasped...
Ian Dury had some interesting takes as well...
One thing's for certain, we may never see the likes again...
Miz Ducky ~ I use the Yamaha WX series in conjunction with a Yamaha's physical modelling synth, the VL70-m, which has a direct input for the WX (no MIDI conversion necessary.) The results of this combination is nothing short of amazing...only the keenest of ears could tell the difference between an acoustic instrument (say, clarinet) and the WX through the VL. The subtlety is incredible...
Do NOT buy a WX used. They are delicate instruments, and you cannot tell if there's been any moisture-damage (common) unless you tear it apart. Do not buy a WX-7 or a WX-11, go with the WX-5. Also, you need a synthesizer to drive with it (it makes no sounds by itself) - if you're going to buy the instrument, I'd HIGHLY recommend buying a VL70-m. You can get the WX & VL for about $1100-1200.
Happy Birthday, Tante Duckeleh!! I picture you blowing that breath channeler or whateva and skipping down the road to Hamelin Bay (that is the name of the TimeShare, isn't it?) with a gaggle of little DanFans in your wake....
Dragon--You certainly earn the Selfless Service to Dandom award for that transcription.
St. Al--You clearly da man.
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You mean I missed Brubeck last night? [Insert Charlie Brown sound of missing football]
And now I give you the transcribed Introduction of Steely Dan by Jerome Aniton:
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Testing, one, two, test.
[instruments warming up]
Good afdernoon laydays and gennelmen...
we’re glad you’ve made it here tanight
becau’ you gonna miss out...
jhou can tell your friend tomorrow that
they gnna miss out on a *&#-damn good thang that we gonna give you
ta-night!
[drums]
Yeah, right on!
WHat we fonna five you ta-night ... it’ll be down to the nitty-gritty.
Yeah! You can tell all your frien’ ...way over in uhh...
Hell, hell I don’t care, you can tell ‘em in, over in Watts!
$&#@%! hahahaha!
You can tell ‘em they mit...
you can tell ‘em tonight that San’a Monica ha’ been defin’ily set on
fiyahre,
and theh meyh, and theat met on a dam good thang.
The best thing that ever happened to San’a Monica is gonna be here,
to-night!
Yeah, and you can also...
Awl you little ol’ burdy, purty, little purty one, nHUNH!
If he ain’t here tonight, HUNH.
You can tell him forget it too,
you know,
because Mr. Whadeva is here tonight.
He gonna get down ta-night, brother,
he gonna get with it,
he gonna give you stumt’em that San’a Monica did never had.
If it good to ya, it gotta be good for ya.
Right on!
Yeah, and one thing I can tell you brotha,
he is here tonight.
Mr. Magnificent One is here...
[steely dan]
The Beautiful One’s here,
ha ha ha,
and you little ol’ purdy one here too,
you know, whadeva.
Here it is the magnificent one,
the one an’ only one,
Mr. Steely Dan and wadeva...
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Now as you can clearly see Mr. Aniton states that, "you little ol' purdy one here too". Which would indicate that Mr. Bernard Purdie was in the audience, also playing that evening, or that Gorzedd's theory is all washed up.
LP -- I'm sorry to hear about your troubles.
Miz Ducky -- Happy Birthday!
Orleans are still around apparently. They were one of the performers in a free concert series given by a local radio station. Said radio station is now seeking beta testers for their "custom radio stations" web radio that you create. This may have a bearing on what we listen to so I urge you all to listen to lots of Steely Dan for more information: http://wmmo.com
Dragon
and to all a good night
Miz D....J Dubs has got one of those Yamaha wind controllers I believe....he may have a couple of different types but I remember him talking about getting one last year or year before last....I was trying to find his webpage that had the info listed but his old site is down and his new site hasn't been completed yet....he also just got a new e-mail address that I don't have right now....if you search the archives here I think you can find his new addy....he probably knows more about the wind controllers than anyone else here....good luck with it if you get one....and even if I am a few hours early.....HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!....hope you have a great one!
luckless pedestrian....not sure what all you're going through right now but I can tell your spirits are down.....wishing for you a better tomorrow and I hope the future will again be so bright that ya gotta wear shades....hang in there Mrs. Cleaver! ; )
steviedan....I had the one Orleans album and was really into Dance With Me at the time....nice harmonies and acoustic guitars.....what ever happened to them anyway?
Howdy folks! Happy day-before-birthday to me. Tomorrow is my 45th. As a pre-birthday present to myself, I finally finally finally bought myself the full schmeer of recent Dan remasters. Oh so sweet. Except--damn! Finally got struck by the missing-Rikki-intro curse (the curse passed me over when I bought my Citizen Dan box). Anyone remember the contact info for that record-company dude who would replace an intro-less copy of Pretzel Logic with a correct one?
In other personal news: I have yet another new obsession, albeit a mild one. Watching a musical performance on TV the other day, I saw one cat playing what looked like an electronic clarinet. I was fascinated, since I played clarinet all through grade and high school, and it would be cool to take it up again especially if I could add a little electronic glitz. After a bit of web-surfing, I determined that what I'd seen was probably some flavor of MIDI wind controller, like this critter from Yamaha. Might be a bit pricey for my blood, but hey, a girl can dream, can't she? Especially when she's reached the age of full mid-life crisis mode.
(Somewhat) seriously--any of you musos out there ever messed with one of these wind controllers? Or any other variety of reed-instrument-based electronic gizmos? What, if anything, do you think of 'em?
/the Mam'zelle
(seeking new toys while she waits for Fresh Dan)
I wouldn't say I'm a Orleans fan but I do remember when ABC used Still The One as their theme music for the new fall lineup circa 1977. Actually, a much better band from that era in that genre was Dwight Twilley! I also remember when CBS or NBC used "This Is It" for the NCAA tournament. After all Kenny did "Danny's Song" -- which Hoops will use new year as the theme for the Danny's.
VP
take cover incoming !!!!
Gorzedd -- I sent you a response to your email this morning.
Midnight Cruiser and St. Al and I believe that Aniton was not talking about Bernard Purdie during his drunken intro to Bodhisattva at the Santa Monica Civic show in 1974.
St. Al spelled your name wrong too (exactly like I did). I'm sure it was a typo, like mine. After all the "A" and the "Z" are very close together and ...
Sorry to hear about Jim Hodder. He went the same way as Brian Jones of the Stones. Seems like rock musicians should hire gardeners and lifeguards. Possibly on-site physicians too.
Monday, Monday. So good to me ...
Steveedan
Duncan, yip, got a bit of a shock about Stuartie. I liked him as far back as the Skids, and saw them twice live in the early 80's. He's been troubled with the drink and depression lately I think. Hope he rests in peace.
In a big country....
Peace
Al
St. Al: Good to know that I'm not the only one who noticed what you did re: last post. Never caught any relevance.....
Where's - to quote the Aus man after imbibing in too many Johnny Blacks - "LLLLL AYYYYY DEEEE BAYYYYYY SIIIIIIIIIDE?!?!?!?!?!
Yeah, regarding this theory of Goraedd's. He e-mailed me about a week ago and I pointed out then his theory was dubious at best considering Purdie didn't even show up on a Steely Dan record until Royal Scam. However, he seems convinced it's still valid. Does anyone know if Purdie was connected to the band during the early touring period. Some how I still think he's just as drunk as Aniton was...
eLLe: Not dissing ya babe. Just pointing out the majority of your posts make sense to no one but yourself. Did you know talking to yourself isn't exactly healthy?
When you do that you don't happen to answer yourself do you?
StAl
Go to the url noted above - we have completely lost our minds.....
DVD-A of TvN on the way. I'll provide a technical report ASAP...
Tickets to Lord of the Rings for Friday...Tom Bombadil rumored missing (Ents in revolt!) and Arwen with a needlessly beefed up PC role - is Liv Tyler's ego to large to wait an episode, die her hair blonde. and play Eowyn?? Anyway, $300 million and the Southern Alps (NZ) can't go wrong...
Y'know, I've never seen Osama and Mick F in the same place...too funny.
Is it possible to be with the Dead (on or off stage) for any period of time and NOT be a troubador? Think about it...Anyway, the whole thing loosened Bruce up to see the whole landscape...
Clas: In a few days, you'll be dancing on your piano...
Ole: Happy Hannukah!
just a moment to spare...
Aussie: Just read your vivid review on King Crimson. Very nice. I don't follow them and figured they broke up long ago. I do follow the stuff Fripp does with David Sylvian and love that sort of stuff. Thanks for the color.
sd/mc: that line "the future's so bright i gotta wear shades" was my theme song ala ally mcbeal for many years, now it's more like the carpenter's "it's gonna take some time this time" - life really is an mtv video
ward - thanks for my tiffany's present, need i wear anything else?
great review, btw, aus - i do read the posts even if i don't add anything
mc fleetwood separated at birth with bin laden - that's priceless - i do feel they were another genius band, imo, and it was lindsey buckingham that made their production so key, but i'm sure there are those that disagree, as in "mystery to me" was a fine release without him, but they kicked into high gear when buckingham came aboard, no? yes?
cd of the week in my car - america's greatest hits - another production gem, no? yes? janet jackson be damned
angel/ge - i lost strike one on my case in court friday, i now have been injunctified, it was a blood bath, but the judge was as fair as he could have been - in his shoes, i would have done the same - my secretaries were so worried about my mental state of health they cleaned my office to a tee, when i came into work this morning, i thought i had been fired.....how low can you go?
wishing i really was a dog catcher, happy monday to all
Island of death strikes again…
News today from hawaii that Former Lead singer & guitarists from the Skids & Big Country
Stuart Adamson is no more.
A fine guitarists & fantastic live band must have seen them 7-8 times during the 80-90's
Poineer of the much underated ''bagpipe'' guitar sound
So it's a big
Ssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Hhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
To Stuart from me & Jamie
db
I was thinking I had read that Aniton was referring to Donald Fagen when he was talking about Mr. Whatevah....Mr. Steely Dan....he either thought that was Fagen's name or couldn't remember it.....the Purdie angle is all wrong for the drunken introductions.
Clas....why are you off Xanax??
steviedan....I remember Timbuk 3 from "the future's so bright, i gotta wear shades"....they were on Austin City Limits a few years ago on a split bill with Eric Johnson....I've got it on tape somewhere.
feels like i'm falling behind here....too much work!....after thursday i'm off for the rest of the year though!! *yippee*
Steveedan... nope unfortunately Hodder drowned in his pool back in the mid-90s sometime.
Yes Clas, thing is that article, that piece of gossip you refer to was really from sometime in '98. But the web page itself makes it seem like it's Groundhog Day all over again, every day Steely Dan slept here. It just brings up where some of that TAN sessions money went back then. Beauty care for Libby had to be included in the equation, naturally, it remaining a very small part of that 6 million dollar record. Then there was the Cuervo Gold, the fine Columbian, you know, all of it negligeable, residual in the end, no doubt. Roger's gear, now that's what justified most expenses, of course.
Now I can see the pic! Usama bin Fleetwood, and the lyrics, fucking radge!
C
bum, do be da, annie waits, pretty catchy.
Stevie Nicks? Not my kind of woman.
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Libby Titus, in Maui, manicurist and hairdresser, 2 times a week? Can you dig that? What kind of lifes are those people living? No wonder they never write lyrics an average person can relate to.
C
Way back when
pre 9-11
That Gary Condit was all the hype
Sweet dreams of Boston
So unattended
Rumsfeld's in Kunduz
Where the hell am I?
Hey Christiane
Now you found nothing in Kabul
We can't dance to video talk at all
Me thinks Mick Fleetwood
Has Usama down
Hey Christiane
That's Sheik al-Brami
She don't remember the geeky Saudi
It's hard tines befallen
We're sole survivors
She thinks I'm crazy
But that's Mollah Omar
Hey Christiane
No, you'll find none in the Koran
We just dream of airplane strikes at Mosque
Me thinks Mick Fleetwood
Has Usama down
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Mick Fleetwood? Yeah... that's it, that's the ticket.
Besides I always had a this thing for Stevie Nicks, didn't you? She's a woman so graceful that one though, how she covers herself from head to toe.
Woman, cover that ass. I had a dream and you got yo ass kicked, seriously.
ß
And Mick fleetwood got his shit together in Maui. Seems to be a popular resort for fucked up rockstars.
C
monday monday...
z - well, I'll read the shit. There's a CD with the book. Maybe I could use the meditation-parts, being off Xanax isn't a walk in the park.
Deludin - is that cool?
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Last night I watched a documentary on Mick Fleetwoods's life. “Two Sticks and a Drum”, pretty interesting shit. The Empire went down with booze and coke.
I never cared much for Fleetwood Mac, but of course, Albatross is a classic song, but for the laid back West Coast nonsens-music, I just don't get it.
Maybe live?
It was a suprise though, hearing him play the drums. Steady session.
C
Sorry for the typo - I meant "Gorzedd".
Hi, and hope you all had nice weekends ...
To Goraedd -
I don't believe your theory about Purdie holds any water. You see, Bernard Purdie, was never a member of Steely Dan. Bernard Purdie recorded on a few sessions, but this was long after the band had stopped touring. I don't think he did any sessions with Steely Dan prior to The Royal Scam album, which was in 1976. The Jerome Aniton introduction to Bodhisattva was exactly what it sounds like... a drunken rambler. The "purty" ones he refers to are the young girls in the audience. The "musical responses" are merely rim-shots to try to keep this out-of-control drunken introduction from completely tanking. "Mr. Magnificent one" would be Mr. Steely Dan-whatever. He, even though he was employed by the band, for some reason thought that Steely Dan was a "He", like Jethro Tull or Molly Hatchet, instead of the name of the band.
Actually, I am amazed he even remembered the name Steely Dan because he sounds like he was so looped that he couldn't even remember his own name. Aniton was one of the band's roadies, and you might find this a little interesting, Aniton was the guy who drove the truck for the band. Isn't this the kind of guy you would want behind the wheel of the truck that holds all of your equipment? Sure, why not? It was the 70's, right? Yeah, sure.
Also, during this final tour (of the 1970's), the Steely Dan band boasted 2 drummers live - Jim Hodder and Jeff Percaro. We know that Jeff has passed away, but (anybody) isn't Hodder still alive? (Maybe not his music career, though.)
Your comments are very entertaining though. Thank you.
Steveedan
i've meant to float this before, but are there any orleans fans in here ?
the band, not the town or teams.
that's it.
pat mcdonald & barbara k were on the radio at that time and they were cool.
at risk of sounding just plain disagreeable (in the friendliest possible manner), the "troubadour/journeyman theory" is not that applicable to bruce's music in regards to the dead. it was a gig, a VERY high-profile gig indeed for him, but i think that he merely applied what he does to their tapestry. he may have picked up a little lint in the process, but no discernable threads. at risk of sounding self-argumentative, this is just barely possible according to my own experience, but minus a couple of "tributes" or "nods" to the swirling masses, hornsby's style is still his...
what i like about ben fold's piano is that efficient comping style, blocky and idiomatic to his early gigging landscape. it borrows heavily from the joel/rundgren/john school of self-accompanying rocksinger/barroom pianist. he's absorbed and is reverent in his bacharach-isms and a dollar to a donut sez that he would laugh off any contention that he might be even a peer to the bach-man's timbre overdrive...
toneman, caught just enough of gorillaz to realize that i've got to put in some time with this puppy !
ole oh no, you are BETTER ! you are SO ON and basically what you described is mostly what WE do ! haden's "nocturne" ? haden's ANYTHING, ole ! s'all brilliante, every album. oh yeah, i've got "nocturne". it's even above average for charlie. up there with "always say goodbye" and "ballad of the fallen" among others. i could gone on...
Chips--You're vindicated at last. Way to stick with Joey 'n' them.
tonez--interesting--that would be extremely bogus behavior for David Byrne--I would love to see them do a little retro-Heads.
z--It's gotta be better than our local selections--anarchy over Prussian rhythm, please. Love the 'bone as DF. If you can tape it--let me know--just make sure Kruger doesn't touch it with a ten foot pole. He'll either try to move it as a lost Gaucho outtake, or claim that played backwards Mr. F says "Mark Knopfler is dead."
Aja--you're swaying me.... I'm SWAYING....
Agree that Hornsby LIVE is well worth it. Especially fun for the female persuasion, as he invites us up onto the stage--I was next to the bass player, and had an out-of-reality few moments -- the only time I'll ever be IN a band.... They all rocked, and Hornsby is very fluid and melodic.
stevie--so will YOU invite me up onstage?!? Unfortunately, or maybe not, I am no Britney wannabe. I could be good at weaving around in the back looking stoned. Hey, how about Charlie Haden's "Nocturne"? Latin-inflected moody tunes--good for winding down on a rainy night--but a HELLUVA lineup, Rubalcaba playing slow for a change, which he can do beautifully, lyrically; Joe Lovano on a major soulful tip; David Sanchez also very saxy; tango-style violin; and oh yeah, Pat Metheny on acoustic guitar. It's all soo romantic, but one tune by Rubalcaba, is just gorgeous--"Transparence." Jon, Stranger--I bet you'd like this one too.
Did I hear a bubble eruct from a bottom feeder? Something about St.Al?
Gorzedd,
You are sadly incorrect. Upon the completion of my duties
with Steely Dan, I went on to finish my Doctoral studies
at Yale in Quantum Physics. I was soley responsible for
the trajectory analysis culminating in the early success
of the NASA Space Shuttle Program. Upon winning the
Nobel Prize for Space Technology I retired to my
home in the Swiss Alps to write my memoirs.
And, as you may already know, Bernard Purdie never calls.
Sincerely,
Aniton
Thank all of you all for your interst in my theory....I am now in total agreement that Bernie "Pretty" Perdie didnt join Dan until later (1976/Royal scam era).....I was wrong on that count....HOWEVER,I believe more than ever that my Aniton interpretation is accurate...The band clearly had the famed L.A. studio drummer in the pipeline and he just plain refused to play live.....All I can do is BESEECH you to listen ONE MORE TIME, because he says "BERNIE..PERDIE..Little "Pretty one" missed out... HAW!!!!!!!!!!
O.K. First of all,Im not a true Dan fan, but my buddy and I have recently "rediscovered" the now legendary Aniton 7/74 intro to Bhodissatvah,which EVERYONE thinks is mere incoherent rambling BUT IT IS NOT !!!! It is a complete rail against studio drumer Bernie "pretty" Purdie (you can tell the little ole "pretty" one that he missed out ) The drummer in concert,Jim Hodder, IS "Mr. Whatever" ,who IS here tonight. Aniton naturally doesn't know HIS name because at the time Purdie was their primary drummer and the late Jim Hodder was a relative unknown. Mr. Whatever (i.e. "the magnificent one" "the one and only one") gets exaggerated praise("he gonna get down tonight " "he gonna get widdit"),as the little ole "Purdie" one is being lightly mocked for not playing live.......With each reference to all this,Hodder plays little drum riffs to indicate his agreement,as a musical"response" to Aniton......This whole interpretation is CRYSTAL clear,when Aniton says Mr. Steely Dan AND whatever (read:Hodder) There are all kind of other references too(for example,we have reason to believe Purdie lived in Watts at the time).If you have any interest in helping me explore this such as helping me contact any of the principals(Aniton,Purdie,or even Fagen/Becker) please let me know.
Your deductive abilities are laughable.
Just as I suspected:
90 = 91 = 745 = 746
Elle Ka Bong~ Listen here, sister. I have seen a photo of YOUR ass and it wasn't a pretty sight. You've got some nerve criticizing Saint Al- as I'm sure his ass is more attractive than your canned hams, even if it is a bit more hairy (but not much.) Still, I believe it would beat yours, hands down. Now cease your shit or I will post the pic for all to see.
Signed,
the Regulator
...YAWN
Elle:
Let's see, calling St.Al a "coward" and "tubby"...
I believe the affirmative word here is...DUCK!
Sunday night still no Dan
All partied out on Kool and the Gang
re-736
Soul?
Tori Amos and Fiona Apple play with more soul than Ben.
Both of these ladies are having it on the 88's.
just MHO.
eLLe
OH LOOK! Beemer has actually taken off the coward cloak of anonymity
and ~tried~ to diss me...naked! YIKES!!!
whatsa matter, was adding a dot com too hard for yah Tubby?
teheeeeee
eLLe
Clas- Yeah, Werner has a very strong appeal for some people- I'm not one of them. If "Effortless Mastery" works for him- great, but if he were my kid, I'd call a cult De-programmer right away! I'm just kidding- get away from that phone!
#1561 - Clas, as it turns out, in hindsight, J. dubyamali was right on. You just find yourself growing fonder of this thing, the more you listen, despite everything, you know... what he said. I'm reminded of Imagine already.
B
There's a Lennonesque quality to his ballads (the luckiest, Fred Jones). It's like the voice of the layman is given a fresh tribune here. There's an honesty there, it's earthy. As long as this expression of vulnerability never ends up sounding corny, as it did sometimes with McCartney, and remains sort of genuinely heartfelt then it flies. Here's someone (Folds) who's done his homework (the heavy parts of the title track are believable, for example), integrated this and that element more or less admittedly (the nod to Bowie's TVC1-5 in Annie Waits, for one) and this is the result. Obviously, I don't relate to the entire end product to the same extent that others do here but I'm glad someone still attempts to produce a couple of fresh classics from the old pop-rock recipe book like this, yes. Besides, what else in the same vein was out there that would favorably compare this year, serioudly?
# 8055234 - Clas, sorry for your loss.
237 - LOL!
549 - 2 AnT - TWM?
645 - IMHO it is.
667 - :-)
668 - :-(
689 - :-/
768 - no. HA!
C
z - good luck with the kids and the concert! I am holding my thumbs!
re Kenny Werner: really? Damn, I haven't read the book yet but my son is pushing for Effortles Mastering very hard. When he went to Berklee, Werner held a jazz-clinic there, my son bought his book, read it, and then left Berklee.
“That book is the main reason I left Berklee” he says.
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dr Mu - in my book Bens pianoplaying is tiny - lack of soul, lack of blues. Is it theirfor he's very successful among white middleclass teenagers?
C
eLLe: are you making sense to yourself again?
Correction: that's Ritenour, not Carlton on that one...
Q, Buehler, Edd, Anybody:
The 2 DVD-As for TvN are:
a) 2 channel DVD-A? for the album
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000056BSN/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/104-6936559-3240767
b) 5.1 DTS for TvN, but it's really Plush? am I right?
Oh, I've noticed if you're having trouble with a 5.1 disc, whether you have 2 or 6 channels (5.1) set up - you may have to toggle program your speaker setting. Press "choice" (on JVCs) or "mode" or some Preference setting. You'll have to go through the menu until you reach a speaker setting function. Configure your DVD player to 5.1 channel or 2 channel selection - and your off...
Was just melting with Carlton on the Bob James tune Moonjogger from Fourplay in one of the DVD-A samplers...I swear it's like Being There...all of a sudden it don't sound like muzak no more...taking up a collection for more DVD-As...
St. Al: I think we all agree that Hornsby LIVE is the ticket...
Aus -- enjoyed your color on the Crimson show. No Tony Levin eh? Too bad.
Oh yeah... Humble? You?
Hornsby AND BF5 rock! Was a big fan of the Range too. I always thought their music was refreshing especially when you consider what was on the radio at the time. I've always wondered how sucessful his career would have been if he hadn't joined associated himself with the Dead. He's even better live. Love it when he whips out the accordion. I don't give a shit what Walter says. The accordion is cool.
Yeskids it's that time of year again.. time for yes,
BOB RIVER'S TWISTED CHRISTMAS TUNES!!!!muahahahhahaha
please go to the jukebox ( if you dare)
for some old time favourites like:
*Osama Got Run Over by A Reindeer
*Taliban on the Run
*al-Qaida
PLUS!!!!
TWISTED CHRISTMAS RADIO-(56k) -located to the left of the jukebox
and how could you forget Elvin and the Chipmunks- located in the "downloads"
ENJOY!
eLLe
(groan) oi that's baaaaad!LOL
Jimbo- I pumped the bass player about Amy- She's the spawn of Libby and Levon Helm, whom she tours with regularly, but she sings jazz standards also. She's also very good looking, so I forwarded the perpetually horny Doctor Warren Kruger's phone number (well, not actually his number- I believe he's staying at a Halfway House for deludin addicts)to the BP.
Clas- Kenny Werner is an idiot. I did a concert with him a few years back and he held a jazz clinic afterwards where he tried to push "Effortless Mastery" on some poor younger musicians. Even most of them thought he was full of shit, not to mention a friend of mine who has a PHD in Jazz Studies and teaches at a college in NYC, who was there also. Since he's a free player, I can't say whether he's a good or bad player, but I can say I hate the way he plays.
Ole- I don't own a tape recorder that has a mic that tapes live music but maybe I'll ask if any of the kids have one. We only have one more day of rehearsal and they haven't even reached the coda yet!
The Black-oops!-I mean Afro-American kid that is playing DF's part on trombone is really doing a good job- he digs SD now. I gave him the "Gaucho" version and then played him and the rest of the band the "Plush" version. His reaction was "Who was the new singer on the video?" DF's voice was giving out at that point in the concert.
Using the trombone for DF's part was actually a pretty good decision on my part (for a change!), because there's always the sound of struggle in DF's voice that is represented quite well in the trombone. If I had given it to the tenor, alto, or soprano sax, it would sound too smooth. Even the kid's less than perfect intonation is a plus here also.
Nobody other than the keyboard players can cut that fast,bitchin' eighth note triplet line, and I refuse to destroy the tension of the line by giving it to a keyboard player. I decided to get one of my fellow music teachers at the school to help us and replace the trumpet solo by Randy Brecker with a sax solo by said teacher.
The White Man Hating, African-American, Female Gospel Singer has yet to get out of bed early enough to join us for the chorus and the coda (which we still haven't hit anyway)so it looks like wing-it time unless she actually stoops so low as to help me Monday.
Hi steviedan..
oh ah, yeah.......
you're right on the money about Hornsby!!!
I totally agree!
eLLe
(still rainin here)
Waving hand really high and fast at Aja...I'm Here. I'm Here!!!
God, Christmas shopping sucks...I'm completely exhausted. So, I'm going to Aja's house to watch her bake stuff...I gave up baking stuff when I broiled cookies for Eiann's class about 6 years ago.
Jim# thinks I'm gonna be able to find him and Mrs # by some directions hes gonna send me. Make sure those have North,South,East,and West details,My new car came with a compass.(Didn't see it until Cody's girlfriend pointed it out to me) What Jimmyyyy# doesn't know is that hes gonna meet me at the Tunnel bridge, so I can follow him. And he'd better drive slow, Dammit..I don't "merge" well.
Well, off to "liberate" some greenery from all my neighbors yards. I'm in disguise as a reindeer (Damn antlers keep tilting my body to the left).
StevIeDan: I DO hear a little McCoy Tyner in his Range style. I think touring with the Dead etc. and becoming a troubador have helped him break into new territory. Mark Knopfler went on a troubador binge for a while (anything to keep from bein licked in a room with Steely Dan again!)...
Well after hours of scrounging around town for exta cables, switch boxes and splitters, the arcane wiring is complete and we have DVD (A and V)! The player came with 2 DVD-A samplers (Yes, and Random - from Dvorak to Barenaked Ladies). I went for the direct comparisons with Gaucho and TvN. Here are the results.
TheJVC DVD-A plays CDs of course. The sound as expected is similar, maybe slightly better (deeper and slightly crisper) using a DVD-A player. The Yes sampler feature 5 songs from Magnification (which sucks) and Live from the House of Blues (this does rock). I knew the potential on paper, but the YES sampler just blew the doors off of theTvN CD sonically - I was shocked! Man, y'all have got to get one of these contraptions!
DVD-A (dual channel) improves on the strengths of CD while bringing in the strength of vinyl without the problems. Dynamic range IS a little better, very little noise as expected. But sampling at 192 kHz rather than 44 kHz is the key. The depth, spacing, and channel separation are incredible. Also, there is additional resonance (like vinyl) giving the sound warmth. Wet drums sound Wet! Unlike vinyl, the high end isn't attenuated and the cymbals are super crisp and 3-dimensional. It's remarkable that a machine under $300 (for po' low to middle-enders like moi) can make that much of a difference! I've looked that the higher end systems, and the specs really aren't any better anyway! The other sampler was recorded in 5.1, so it was inconsistent as expected (I have only a 2 speaker set-up with some Boston Acoustics). If you have speaker set-up for 5.1, don't expect 192kHz sampling. You'll be cut down to 66 or 44 kHz per pair - only a little better than CD sound. I noticed even at the theatres that DTS sounds like a CD really loud on a plethora of speakers. DVD-A ROCKS!
Renting our first DVD-V today. I'm pissed at Amazon, since it's taken them a week to deliver Making of Aja...
. .
Aus,
Great report!
I saw the current Crimson tour in FL a few months back and I felt the same way - speechless. Tour De Force X 4.
"Frame By Frame" and "Elephant Talk" amaze. Fripp and Belew are the perfect counterparts and , yes, Belew is defintely showing his age. Fripp seems in better shape than ever.
How can someone continue to deliver such perfect precision so consistently for so many years?
Hopefully, they come around one more time with Tony Levin.
JPJ must have been great. Boy did he get hosed by Plant/Page!
Which One's Pink: No worries. Thanks for clarification. And I laughed out loud at the Pace Picante Sause remark....too funny
Sir StevieDan: A labour of love I tell ya. Tipping cap your way.
Duncan: Thanks for the tip....'ppreciate it.
Blaiser: Ahhhh.. The second night. Dreadfully, clients won out and was not able to make it. And believe you me sir, the whole time during dinner I just kept thinking: "this fuckin' sucks! I'd rather be at the Beacon with my boys..." Of the three times I slated to see them in this latest incarnation, I only saw them once....but the reality is: I feel fortunate to have seen them at all...and they played so well that my dosage will keep me sated until the next time they come 'round.
Everyone have a superb weekend!
Aus
Of course, Mu, this tape was left behind on purpose. At one point, he even stares right at the camera. I suspect he's also high on some opiate derivative there with the uncontrollable laughter at times, the cool spaced out demeanour throughout. Fields of opiated dreams. And they share their dream visions in this far away place like this and your neighbor comes out screaming in real time. Fascinating...
We ourselves kept hearing of bombings through the years in the arab world and acted with the same detachment, perhaps even cracking jokes. This is not shocking or unexpected, that careless hilarity. We even employ "Thank God" every sentence ourselves. No surprise there. This is just these guys bragging with their last gasp and knowingly so, signing their deed. It was meant to be seen all along, me suspects.
Creeping up, the smell of Krypto Bud hits you, that Crimson angle comes clean and you're there. Sir Aussie Tores, Sir. What about the second night?
Aja - Salvation? I'm not that friend with the fighter jet but I'd run to you, sure. It's always an honor to be considered for savior duty, I say. Come around more often if you can, it'll be like old times 'round here.
Aussie check out top tip for UK Christmas No1 Gordon Haskill
Wonderful tonight
:)
db
Dragon
Bill
JWAZ
ED
Craigster
always a pleasure
db
aus, i could just smell the excitement ! you do us a great service.
wormy, i think page & plant did themselves a DISservice by not even giving jpj a call to tell hem they were touring...
malc, enjoyed hearing about jack bruce, as well.
blaiser-ush, morse is just phenomenal, is he not ? i'm glad that i communicated the dichotomy of the production...
aja, yes i have. matter of fact, johnny a was in the mix during breaks at the gig tonite. great modern blues playing and his version of "wichita lineman" is nice. vai ain't gonna sign any boring guitar players to his label, fer sure...
everyone enjoy the weekend. tonight we were joined onstage by five britney wannabes calling themselves "the seagulls". for real. i am not making this up, i kept making little seagull calls with the slide on my guitar. they did their thang with some of our more modern repertoire and their thang was looking pretty good from my strategic position. got my weekend off to a good start, let's say...
okay. not just "A" style. it's that copland/mccoy tyner-esque harmonic voicing infused with a jazzy hip-hop funky banjo thing. keith jarrett meets earl scruggs at the allman's bar-b-que with pat metheny in kentucky. the first time i heard "every little kiss" distantly on the mall p.a., i strained to catch identifiable lyric snippets. this was close to home for me because sometimes i would voice and arpeggiate like that, under the influence of copland and tyner mainly. that first record was a little uneven, mostly due to too many distorted git-tars and a plodding rhythm section. but it also contained "mandolin rain" and "the way it is" which are excellent tunes. "scenes from the southside" is sonically better but still uneven. mu, have you heard the version of "valley road" with hornsby on the nitty gritty dirt band's fine record "will the circle... vol. 2" ? it's a sped-up bluegrass version that defines the tune even better. the album is especially worth getting for john prine's "grandpa was a carpenter" and otherwise is an all-star labor of love... regardless, hornsby is an underrated talent in my opinion. i feel that he continues to grow geometrically as a composer and conceptualist...
Hi Aja!
Valley Road was my favorite Range song - could it be because it sounds just like the classic folk song - Battle of New Orleans?!
Hi!
Thought I'd never survive this week-14 hour days spent with contentious parties. Now it's finally Friday and I'm enjoying jazz and conversation on a cold, rainy day (perfect for Christmas baking) and consider myself unemployed until Monday. lp, are you still with me in putting on "Love in Action" and doing high kicks in our underwear? We can do this at City Hall, the negotiating table, where ever!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I feel much better now.
Hi chere, hang in there, grrrrlie. Called you back but don't know if you got the message.
Hi Jim#, can't wait to be enjoying hurricanes, jazz, and your fine company! April seems like a dream away right now. Ole, you in? cara mia?
Where's Cyn?
Where am I? Blaisie mon chere, rescue me from this enslavement! Or at least dance with me and speak French all night......
stevie dan-haven't bought the Johnny A CD yet but heard good things about it. Have you heard this one?
MC-Eric Johnson is back on tour again-just heard on the radio he's coming here-and seems like he's touring as himself this time. Hope he swings out your way.
Off to decompress (jazz at this coffeehouse sure helps) Have a great weekend, one and all!
Aja
Aus, I've NEVER considered you anything other than a very interesting read with truly excellent manners. I was just tuggin at your leg 'cause its not often that I have something to plug in (use your PACE Picante sauce voice) New York City. ( Oh, and for those whose tastes run a little to the hard rock side, check out the kind of OK video clips -- particularly UnRest -- on the W1P singer's original band website http://www.federationblackout.com )
Hey there folks. Way cool about the Ramonies moshing their way into the Hall, but this leaves many questions to be answered, such as: will the Sex Pistols be inducted? Love 'em or hate 'em they were WAY influencial. And I love the Ramones, but inducting them before Yes or Crimson? hmmmm...
More questions: Will Byrne finally recognize the HUGE contribution of the other Heads to their success, or will he pull a "fogerty" and have all-star pick-up band perform while the original members walk out of the hall?
btw, I'm on quite the Hall of Fame roll, with three of my favorite bands being inducted 3 years in a row: Earth Wind & Fire, some guy named Dan something, and now the Heads. Should this continue, I expect XTC to be inducted next year...
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It's been 3 hours since I started writing this post... Another case of work interfering with the important stuff...
c y'all...
t
Glad a few of you appreciated the Krimso colour. The pleasure was ALL mine.
Your faithful and humble narrator,
Aus
which one's pink: Sir, I sincerely do appreciate the heads up you gave everyone on the NYC DanFan listbot...and again on these very yellow pages. Lack of response, and I really want to be clear on this with you, was certainly not due to any wilful pre-programmed initiative to ignore your notises. My not having the chanse to see this project is directly and inextricably linked to the insane life for me right now with clients and with the concurrence of the Holiday Season. And yes, in the future, I would like to be kept in your information loop. But I beg you to not equivocate absence of response or even absence from an event with lack of caring or in the alternative, being a cock-head with no manners.
Thank you in advanse for understanding,
Aussie
Hey, Aus, nice colour on the Crimson show - wish I coulda been there.....did Babes go? (why do I think this is a stupid question?)
Now, is there a flick called "the Movie" that now has a tribute film to it? You have a job during the day, don't you?
or do you just plot your evening whereabouts from your secure, spruce flavored, Manse?
Jack Bruce rocked BB Kings on Wednesday, with Bernie Worrell, Vernon Reid and percussionist Richie Flores amongst others......twas strange to hear Jack
with Vernon taking it way out into atonal/noize characterizations. Bernie was mixed low, and didn't funk it up as much as I would like, but Richie
and his crew put thoroughly latin drives to Bruce standards........Vernon did his bit, and Jack took the electric bass to a refreshing new place.
No one yelled "white room", and yet, that was his first encore!
A cloudy evening - our center seats were probably a bit too close.....trips to da bah were sonorously and visually enhancing!
Bear's new build is cramp city, brother - we're not moving, or so goes the current rumors.....you miss it don't you?
Ole: French Maid? I'm all ears......well mostly.....great idea! Shalom
ygk
JayDubz: Osama should get such a wife...
OK, last BF schpeil of the day. Just listen to his playing of Lullabye on Reinhold Messner. The wasy the guy can integrate gospel, ragtime, and jazz, and even a little rock and can subtely phase-shift styles is just awesome Whta LIFE - he's not simply a mimic a la Billy Joel or Elton. Perhaps Hornsby and even Browne could show off a bit more with the song, but they couldn't play THAT way - teenager my ass...
Agreed, Mu ~ having met the battle-axe, I can assure you - she's a "see you next Tuesday!"
Gloria Allred clearly needs a life. Why don't we arrest Sir Paul for misinforming the press about where his Lovely Linda passed?
Aus, great review of JPJ & Fripp! Now, how was Tribute the Movie?
Big News in LA! Gloria Allred has filed a complaint with the Coroner's Office because the address of George Harrison's place of death allegedly is a fake address off Coldwater Canyon. Allred wants to preserve the "integrity" of our public records. The falsification of location of death addresses for celebrities is very common here as a method of preventing private homes from turning into tourist attractions. I used to live next door to the Sharon Tate murder site and can attest from personal experience what happens when tourists come looking to channel "Charlie" There was an outfit in LA called "Graveline Tours" that took people in a hearse to famous death sites all around LA (Janis Joplin, Marilyn Monroe, Sal Mineo, River Phoenix, etc.)
Well, I guess everyone has seen THE TAPE and heard Letterman's quips (I did on the radio this morning on the way to work..."Osama bin Laden and his buddies were eating at a trendy restaurant in Kandahar: Thank Allah It's Friday!" ...and the revelation on Nightline the other night that Osama was pissed at America because the Kuwaitis refused his band's offer to drive the Iraqi's out of their country and asked the US instead (the jihad rationale is a calculated charade using it's structure - Osam could get a group of men to fight guerilla style, jihad style, etc.). It's a landmark moment (or should be - even though did we need any reminder looking back at human history including Hitler, Stalin, and Mao). You can be calm, rationale, organized, flippant, not mentally ill, not mad - just EVIL...the Dan tried to tell us years ago...
StevieDan: Yes, the Range were an Albatross, and he did open up come Harbor Lights (only 11 shopping days left, Clas!!)...but ya know Kenny G has a "style." Liberace had a style. Van Cliburn was one of the, if not the greatest classical piano technicians ever had a "style," but he's not regarded as the best by a long shot. Jim Hodder had a "style." How about his irritating shuffle? Thank goodness for Porcaro, Gordon, Gadd, Purdie, Greene et al. Fagen, Michael McDonald and even Ben Folds all have distinctive styles...but to me it's a matter of choice: melodies, runs, harmonies, chords, spacing, what they leave in what they leave out, and putting some emotion in. Dizzy was a better technician than Miles (by Miles Davis' own admission), but what about the choices?? It simply seems to ME despite Hornsby's prowess, he made a limited number of types of choice patterns in the first few albums before Harbor Lights. I'm glad other folks enjoy it.
Finally, Ben Folds tunes are of Bacharach stature or maybe better. OK, the lyrics are sometimes goofy, but to paraphraze Ben in hte article "sometimes poignant moments happen under harsh fluorescent lights...at Arby's..." It's very human stuff...
Aussie - simply awesome color!
I relived the moments I've seen of both Crim and JPJ through your post!@!
the light saber reference was way out there and dead on
I knew you would be blown away by John Paul Jones
did he play a tape loop buildup of Going To California
with the triple neck guitar/mandolin/bass combo?
not a surpise that page and plant needed a small orchestra to fill the jonesters gap in their 95 and 98 reunion tours
talk about a humble warm musician
what's even more amazing was how balanced and "less is more"
he showed in his Zep days
it takes a great musician to fill the spaces
it takes a greater musician to show constraint
you and Sue enjoy tonight's foray and wish I was there with you pal
Tom
Yo Steely dudes! Hey you gotta get me out this prison man!
They put me in this cell with this crazy Winona Rider
chick! Man, she drivin' me crazy with all this shopliftin'
shit! She be talkin' non-stop! Man, all I did was get
caught with another 165 pounds of dope, I don't deserve
this kind of treatment!
HELP!
Well...they managed to do it again. That is, incinerate a major New York City structure and leave into the warm night without a single arson marshall on their tails. King Crimson played last night at the Beacon Theatre, located on the upper west side on 74th Street and Broadway. But first, at 8:00 p.m. sharppe, came on stage Mr. John Paul Jones, whose three piece ensemble blew your faithful and humble narrator away from eight rows away and dead centre. This English cat played it all....stand -up slide guitar, mandolin, mini-electric guitars, bass...but wait: listen to this: one of his band members, a buffed out blond headed kid wearing a grey tank-top and a kilt provided amazing sounds from the Warr-Stick!!!!!!
The drummer, by far the weakest link of the trio, at least kept a rock steady beat showing shades of the John Bonham then slipping back into mediocrity.... Striking a hand held flat drum with a BONE, they eased into a tequila-beer-breath down and dirty blues piece with Mr. Jones absolutely wailing on a mandolin....wowowow.
And now.."In my Time of Dying"...superbly done. Stunned audience (could be blamed on the super fine scent of Krypto BUD in the bathrooms downstairs) reacts with life as this timeless Zeppelin classic is unerthed live on stage and played with a vigor and enthusiasm not seen by many.... JPJ is clearly a genius...plays a beautiful sonata alone while the other two sit by the drum set and watch silently..crowd wants to start clapping but a quick shake of the head no by Mr. Jones and he puts the crowd in its place..assault with STICK and mini guitar..relentless and driving, unforgiving. Heartbreaker jam....whoa.
DaisyCUTTER...KABOOM! An explosion of colour: RED. And Krimso whallops the crowd....nothing to say except for : this is incredible. Launch into EleKtricK..Pat Mastellotto controls here (I was amazed at how polished his drumming was...and I couldn't stop thinking, this guy really learned a great deal from Bruford, but he has his own style; no doubt about it)....Adrian Belew, showing his age but not on his guitar playing nor on his showmanship on yellow banana coloured guitar...Mr. Fripp, on stool surrounded with black towers and standing out against backdrop of red/green digital goodies....sinister...thanking my source now for great seats...this is Discipline, only much much bettre.....Trey Gunn (who BTW, celebrated his birthday last night) emerges...subsonic assault and killer applications on Stick...no freakin prisoners here folks. Everyone feels the hum and buzz of each of these Jedi Masters' light sabres.. Trey continues assault with Mastellotto on drums racing, tracking....serious and not for the faint of heart. Guitar clinic time.....Fripp takes lead but not for long...Belew shines and great rapport with folks in the front rows...Masters of tempo change...complicated rhythms...
Very high now. And a critical mistake to take the PalmSpring visor as note pad...struggling to keep up....Fripp has never sounded bettre. the KonstrucKtion of Light: speechless. Fripp sound walls with Trey lurking wearing all black...sounds of Brazil here..jungle...Matte Kudesai yummy sound walls...monster jam.
Larks Tongues in Aspic....this is bunker-busting time folks. Amazing Shit! Amazing Fripp solo....launch into TrippyFrippy Walls....
Level Five. Flashes go off from the right of the stage but band is waaaaaay to focused on relentless sonic assault...caednce and cascade into RED.....encore Elephant Talk.
Blown away. They play again tonight.
Aus
Rediscovering Dave Brubeck airs on PBS this Sunday. (check local listings):-)
Yahoo review is linked on the URL line. Enjoy.
Thank you to Angel on all angles - there are a lot of hits already on the Ramones site today, it is a very happy day indeed for Ramones fans everywhere. The local sportscaster admitted with pride last night the Ramones concert was the first he had ever been to. It would have been most cool if they had gotten it last year so they could have beat up Paul Schaffer with a guitar with Donald and Walter looking on smirking, now THAT's a picture worth alot, right?
I wanna be sedated.....
WELCOME TO HOLLYWOOOOOD!
I have a broad band and a new email address, is this my lucky day or what?
clas@ateljelundkvist.se
Feel free to send me questions about Jackson Browne and Nicaragua!
C, the Cincinnati Kid
I would like to be the first to congratulate Chips on the Ramones being picked for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. What a coup. LOL
Others being inducted: Tom Petty, Talking Heads, Isaac Hays. Brenda Lee & Gene Pitney (earlier era), Chet Atkins (sidemen) and Jim Stewart (nonperformer group).
LP: (672) Yes, God Bless America, indeed. Massachusetts is correct in figuring human error into the equation. No matter how good we are, we are not perfect. We just do the best we can. Good luck today!
(673) Nice angel. lol
Blaise: (671)(684) Wow, you are just finding great obscure references to the duo. So, now we know at some point Donald helped Sally Taylor (interesting web site, btw)and we also know that Donald has been to Hawaii. Can anyone say Hyperbolic Studios? I knew you could. :-)
Woo Hoo! Definitely a good sign.
666 last night it was revealed
Hank Silvers is the antichrist
if I'm quick I get 700,
my luck run ith over
668 tones - SACD and DVD-A lack one major thing
alot of good music to buy. Hold on to your stuff
the fad isn't worth it
steviedan - HEart in 2100
Ann and Nancy did do some great stuff before they balladed away
that intro acoustic guitar in Crazy on You gets me every time
poor Cameron Crowe gets a fix live nightly
and Ann's delivery, wow
Led Zep Lite
Jaydubz - Sorry I missed you while I was in LA. I couldn't locate a phone number. Next time for sure.
Cheers
Mr Chow.
Lisa G says:
HI TO THE BUNCH!
LP - you know that Darwin-stuff you sent? Or am I gaslighted?
Blaise - hmmm.
C
I just wrote a long damn post about Jackson, Hornsby and Ben Folds.
It's gone.
Let me sum it up:
Jackson/Hornsby = pathos, substance, warm hearts. Best live though.
Ben Folds - happy dude, educated or not, but mostly for teenagers I think?
C
Found this on Roger Nichol's Forum. It's a private message from Paul to Roger right
here:
"Paul McCartney
Member
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You draw your own conclusions...
Sir stevie dan - Yes, I've heard the Different Strings - La Villa Strangiato medley. Those are two of my favorites so I had to take a listen. God loves swapping services, btw. May his almighty blessing be upon them. And what you wrote applies perfectly in this case since the lead vocalist butchers the first song while later on the lead guitarist enters this "zone", seemingly uninhabited before. We're not talking 32th notes anymore there, sounds like he's melting the strings together, man. I hear that's Steve Morse salvaging the track there with an olympian performance, picking every one of those notes. whoa That drummer learned his part note for note growing up and it shows but how can you set out to pay tribute and forget the words like this? argh Sacrilege. Thank you sir stevie for showing the way. May God's blessings be upon yo.
Bonjour, oleander. Oui, c'est bien moi. Many references in the corpus suggested a transversal storyline but I didn't have time to investigate any further. Something involving partying in the street, pedestrians being hit and people dying behind the wheel, some sort of giant mess... I dunno.
little unfinished biz from the last but not least dept:
got to say hi to oleander...
and fezo
and elle
the g's REALLY need to christen this mutha. were y'all at ?
belsai (this is the permutation i love), the rush tribute on magna carta is called "working man" (like the fagen pic) and it's a mixed blessing. while it has steve morse, stu hamm, john petrucci, and billy sheehan, it also has sebastian bach, jack russell, & mark slaughter. don't get me wrong, these guys are all pros but... a little hair metal injection, but that also means jake e. lee & george lynch so the yin yang is sort of self adjusting. i'm glad i own it and won't be getting rid of it. i guess you can call that a recommendation.
tones, YOU know "what's going on" ! mmmm, gorillaz. i've been curious about that one, having read and heard good buzz. tonez album of the year, huh ? mmmmmmm...
but you know, jackson, bruce, or ben. none of 'ems got nuthin' on heart. the 2100's will be nothing but ann & nancy ! that's right ! that's what we'll be remembered for, the van amadeus wilsons !
papasmurfiedan ouwwwtt...
eeeeeeeeek hank's the ANTI-DAN !
33 & 1/3 times 2 !
sixty-six & two thirds !
here we go comparing three different artists of three cultural generations. every production is dated, it can't help but be, by the technology, styles, and sociopolitical outlook. only musicology will determine long-term vitality. we'd have to see how ben folds weathers the next decade or two to even THINK about a comparison with jackson browne. to witness browne and hornsby live is the best way to absorb the depth of them as artists. i think all three of these guys are excellent singer/songwriter/musicians. mu, i really don't get the distancing of ben's current effort from his catalog. some of his best songwriting thus far is on those records. lyrically he has never revealed to me the insight of "late for the sky" and i don't think he will. as for bruce, that quality that you refer to, the "sameness" of hornsby's piano playing is merely a very DISTINCTIVE, INSTANTLY RECOGNIZABLE style. i'm not sure ben's piano playing in a solo setting would be. technically, hornsby kicks his ass hands down. i never liked "jacob's ladder" by anyone, really and certainly none of these cats are like one masterpiece after another. bruce's early band was a weight on him. he is so much the jazzer and they were plodding rawk n roll. slowly but surely, he's fixed that.
i'll be back...
MC--thanx for the BF/ CNN tip! Weird Al & Ben Folds duetting on "Song For The Dumped"--whoa! that must have been supremely strange and perfect at the same time.
tones--ahh... one of my guilty pleasures, Gorillaz. First time I saw the "Clint Eastwood" vid I was sucked in. Something about them....
Fr. Wm--glad to see you get your poetic due. "Cryptonomicon" was a GREAT read! Definitely a Pynchon hommage, but some very vivid storytelling. Stephenson has a great imagination.
z--attended the obligatory school holiday concert tonight & thought of you. All this band music is so BORING--oompah, oompah--why can't they come up with something that SWINGS? I think it's up to you. "A Babylon Sisters Christmas" or something.
YGK--Hey. Meet me for a little Hanukkah eggnog. I know a cleaning service that specializes in those French maid outfits.
Aus--and to you.
chere--hey there, grrrlfriend! Take care of yourself.
Zeke!!!! Sight for sore eyes! HowzDOIN' down there? You be around for JazzFest next time?
angel--I didn't come up with it! THEY did.
Blez--that you being streetwise? very cool. Nice pic, too. There is hope for The Next One.
Michelle Wiggs -- Welcome! If you really want to thank Mr. Fagen & Mr. Becker & Mr. Bumpus and others you might want to try sending them an email through Steely Dan's website at www.steelydan.com. But you've found plenty of kindred spirits here. BTW, are you getting your Doctorate in Nursing or Music or something else?
Nad Sylvan -- Welcome! If your stuff really does sound like Steely Dan then we should all be so lucky as to hear it. How about submitting it to the GuestBook compilation? Confused? Curious? Need more information? Look up at the top, See Support GuestBook Musicians, scroll down for Schwinn and GuestBook Compilation, contact for more information and we could be listening to your song!
chad -- Welcome? No, I don't share your fantasy, I'm scared to talk about it. Please get some help! Contact your local Psych professionals, please.
StAl -- I'm just keeping you on your toes. That and taking a study break.
Dragon
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all this Ben Folds talk and I just ran across an interesting story on CNN....a nice little interview with Ben along with a couple of videos of live tunes performed at an LA suburb bowling alley. Here's a link:
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/showbiz.today/music.ontheroad/0112/06.html
Mark in Boston....thanks for the info on the Bliss Band....I've got Neon Nights on vinyl....somewhere....I remember liking it at the time....never heard the first LP, "Dinner at Raoul's" but it sounds interesting....I found some info on it online and it had Michael McDonald, Jeff Baxter and Keith Knudsen among others, playing on it....and as you said, Skunk produced it....I'll keep my eyes open on AG or WinMX for some of the old tunes.
eLLe...."when you're a kid and you wanna go weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee but you ain't got drugs yet, you hold on to your little gonads and strife" ***ROTFLMAO***
check it out y'all....Weeeee....insanity at it's best!
time to call it a day/night/week for real this time....y'all have a good weekend....and say Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee muthafucka!!! *LOL*
Winona ~ thief, interrupted?
Steevedan, what's time rehearsal tonight? ;)
Donald Fagen makes today's gossip page: http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Awful/Archive98/980307.html
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Suspected shoplifter Winona Ryder is overworked and underpaid, just like all the other movie stars and bigtime athletes who bitch and moan about how tough their lives are. They just weren't lucky enough to get minimum-wage jobs.
lp - I remember wishing I'd seen that tour. Did Neil and Beck play together? That would kind of remind me of John Belushi doing his Joe Cocker imitation standing right next to Joe Cocker himself... (dueling Cockers? Better not go there...) But, yeah, I've grown into quite the Beck fan myself. I even like, (and understand) 'Loser" now. (I think...)
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Are we sure Bliss isn't the state Don was trying to acheive before he consulted Dr. Wu?
Well, StAl looks like I couldn't figure it out for myself on the first attempt...
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Red Lizard by Thais
copyright 2000
Coming soon to www.clubhiho.com
A sweet little boy surprised his grandmother one morning and
> brought her a cup of coffee. He made it himself and he was
so
> proud. Anxiously, he waited to hear the verdict. The
grandmother
> in all her life had never had such a bad cup of coffee. As
she
> forced down the last sip, his grandmother noticed three of
those
> little green army guys were in the bottom of the cup.
>
> She asked, "Honey, why would three of your little army men
be in
> the bottom of my cup?"
>
> Her grandson replied, "You know grandma, it's like on TV.
'The
> best part of waking up is soldiers in your cup'."
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>
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Hey MC
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
no caffiend truly sucks t... ag ga ga
order in some Gevalia ...or however you spell that
eLLe-May
Loser-(Beck) is profound! I find the lyrics applicable!! Love the vid. Beck is cool and unusual.Plus I love the 60-early 70-ish retro/turned NM threads dude!
LOL-eLLe
Happy Hanukah
Cruise - I don't think that says anything about you except that your propaganda filter is working fine. You would never know some artists have any substance at all from what they play on eMpTy VH-nil or the radio. Hell, most people only know 2vsN by 'Cousin Dupree'. Which is why we need people like steviedan, and all you folks, to let us know whats really going on...
My album of the year... of the moment*: The Gorillaz cd. The most unique album of the year, 'cause it manages to rock, hip-hop, mosh, skank, and still somehow manages to squeeze Ibrahim Ferrer in. Not bad for a band that doesn't even exist...
Later taters...
t
*Disclaimer: "album of the year... of the moment" is subject to change without notice if I think of something better
MC - The Bliss Band connection to SD was that Jeff Baxter produced their first LP in 1978 (?). It was called "Dinner at Raoul's". It was laden with Steely Dan hooks and choruses. Their 2nd LP was "Neon Smiles". The band leader was Paul Bliss, who was a Fagen wannabe, used to front a band called "Dog Soldier". The youngest brother of Ray Davies was the bass player in the band.
I have all three albums on vinyl (never released on CD that I know of).
I've seen a couple of Bliss Band tunes on Audio Galaxy.
Owwww, I'm having a 70's flashback!!!
Mark in Boston
hiya tones - funny you mention neil young with beck - they toured together during the Horde tour in 1998 (97? i remember i had a few g&t's that summer night) - saw that show here in massachusetts, it was excellent - i'm a big beck fan for sure, i feel he stepped away from the fray of 90's alternative rock and grunge and really did something cool and truly "alternative" - i think it's music you have to be in the right mode of thought at the time to appreciate it
angel - litigating tomorrow, so we'll see, a slightly weak case, but upon digging, i've found a few court cases and little known laws that help me - it's funny, the massachusetts court system and their case law and regulations actually assume staff fucks up and yet still places the onerous (sp?) on the property owner to do what they are supposed to - so yes, god bless america, really, this is a great country
Sorry about that, Mam'zelle, my mistake. It's Sally Taylor, daughter of James Taylor and Carly Simon, judging from what I see on there anyway.
She might have recorded there recently and snapped it. My theory. Next One entourage? Who knows?
tones....to be honest, I didn't dig deep into Beck....maybe I've missed out on something good....only heard the hyped stuff....guess that says a little something about me.
time to do a few chores....later y'all.
Hank....sorry to see you were the one who got the trip sixes....yeah, everybody loves the Maine Coons....they're so big and they act like puppies following us everywhere around the house....the pics were digital from a nikon coolpix....I rarely shoot film anymore....too expensive and I'm way into instant gratification....thanks for the compliment on them.
fezo....good to see you again....hope you & the Mrs are doing well....interesting story about Dr. Wu.
does anyone remember the Bliss Band? I was looking around at the Ultimate Band List and they were listed as related artists to Steely Dan & Donald Fagen....I remember really being into an album they did back in the late 70's or early 80's but never heard anything else from them....just wondering if there was really a Steely connection.
Roy....Edd....?
MC - i.e. Beck: Have you heard Mutations? It has none of the MTV-ready schitck. When I first heard Beack, I was riding up to go camping with the guys when someone put on Mellow Gold, and upon hearing the first few notes of 'Loser' I proceeded to give my friend shit for succumbing to the media hype and "Alt"-rock format nazis, then the second song came on and I said, "Who is this? This is great!" Couldn't believe that it was the same person. The second song reminded me of Neil Young stuck in a hotel room with a 4 track and some blotter. Really deep and folky. Those particular qualities get buried among the funky sampledelic stuff he does, but Mutations is pure songwriting with a minimal of studio gimickry... and no videos!. Then again if you've already heard it I'm shootin' blanks...
µ - I can't wait to hear SACD and DVD-A, but I'm usually about 5-10 years behind the technological curve. Which means I'll be picking up cheap SACD/DVD-A players off of Ebay in about 6 years, when the *next* super hi-fi format makes SACD obsolete...
Ugh! Can't get next door to the coffee shop... this is torture...
t
#666? How beastly...
fezo: Long time, stranger...come on back again sometime. Thanks for the story. Interesting, if true. I doubt it, though -- this is the first time I've seen a story that claims DF had drug problems.
Midnite: thanks for the pics, mate. The Deacon is a most handsome fella; if we somehow found room for another cat, it'd likely be a Maine Coon. And what did you take the photos with? Digital or film? Pretty sharp.
Father William and µ: Glad to see the side-by-side comparison of the poems. I never knew the one in Alice was a parody of an existing poem.
I'm not real current on Hornsby news, but seem to recall hearing that Hornsby recorded Harbor Lights after touring with the Dead, which might explain any differences in style from other releases. That disc is the only BH I still listen to semi-regularly.
JayDubz: I hear what you're saying. I think the homage bent is especially clear on the first BB5 album - which does remind me of Zappa (from an idea standpoint - I'd be the first to admit that BB5 couldn't play in the same state as Zappa's band of technical wizards) - glad you picked up on that! I would argue that he's integrated all of that into his own style on his new one...The core though is those compositions: Ben Folds makes Rock FUN and INTERESTING again...
Here's a distinction that may make sense (or perhaps just to me). If I had to make choice for a LIVE show: say Hornsby with the players say on Harbor Lights, OR Ben with his current back-up band (who are pretty pedestrian), I'd go with Hornsby. I've only seen him a couple of times on Austin City Limits, Hard Rock???...and at least for me his live shows have something that maybe most of his recordings don't...
Perhaps if Steely Dan had stayed together and cranked out some mediocre albums in the 80s, I'd feel the same way about them as I do about Jackson Browne...but they were smarter than that...
i have this fantasy where jesus christ is jackhammering micky mouse in the dooh dooh hole while steely dan gives birth to something resmbling a chedder cheese loafin his tummy tum while garth brooks skins my face like a deer and wears my face like a mask as he does his little kookie dance if any one shares in my fantasy or just wants to discuss it with me please write chadnorthup@hotmail.com
Re: #650 -- Hey, Blaise, merci beaucoup for the dreamy Donald pic! Could you post the URL for that Samantha Taylor's website? Can't seem to track it down via google.com.
/the Mam'zelle
hungry for more pinshots of Herr Docktor Fagen
the best song I have ever heard with this fab duo, is an old thing really..."Night by Night" from the Prezel logic album.
My song "Snuggin´" has been compared with SD many many times...
Love,
Nad
Additional thoughts on the Hornsby/Folds/Browne theme...
When I listen to Ben Fold's solo album, I try not to hold it up against my other favorite artists for comparison...I listen to it for what it is: a quirky, fun pop album with a (self-deprecating) sense of humor, playful hooks and unique arrangements ~ coupled with the fact that Folds played virtually everything. Is it derivative and sometimes cliche? Definitely...but I look at it as more of a homage, just as Zappa would "quote" Stavinsky or Fagen would Mancini. If I were to compare it with the music of Steely Dan, it would pale...just as if I were comparing Steely Dan to Miles Davis or Thelonius Monk. There's no question as to what is more sophisticated (...and Lord knows, we love our sophisticated music around here!) ~ but if my musical diet was based solely upon sophistication, I'd be listening to Prokofieff 24/7...
As for the Hornsby/Folds/Browne comparison: no question that Bruce can play circles around Ben...Hornsby grew up a keyboardist, he studied music, and his musical vocabulary is far more broad than Folds. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my recollection that Folds is entirely self-taught, started as a drummer, and didn't pick up the piano until his 20s. For a guy with no formal musical education (like Todd & Joni), I'm impressed with his ability to hold his own on so many instruments, and his ability to write hooky pop tunes. Browne has the benefit of having been around for 30+ years, coupled with the fact that he's written MANY timeless classic tunes. "The Pretenter" was a timeless masterpiece, there's no arguing that!
My point is this: if I compare every artist in the museum to Rembrandt, I'll end up depriving myself of great art! Clas, old buddy...don't use that Folds CD as a beer coaster just yet ~ listen to it some more with an open mind ~ you may find yourself beginning to enjoy it! As Mick once said, "It's only Rock N Roll!" (but I like it!)
fezo - great story - thanks for sharing it
it's affidavit time, see you later...
fezo: Wow! That is a new twist...hmmmm
MC: I really WANTED to like the first 2 Range albums (they are clean sounding) - but the stuff all sounds alike to me - I just don't hear it...some things are just that way. For some odd reason many critics (professional or not) claim that Dan's music sounds alike from album to album...many of us a scrathcing our heads to hear how TvN sounds like Gaucho or was recorded a few weeks after. Now I could see the argmuents that compositions in Gaucho and The Nightfly favor each other or how Kama and TvN favor each other, but not between the groups...depends on wiring, I guess...
I had forgotten about Harbor Lights - so a partial retraction...
what the fuck? never heard this one before (from article in today's Post about a local d.j.):
"After coming out of the coma, Damian for a time thought he was 14 years old again, when a fall had landed him in the hospital. This time, he spent two years in rehabilitation, in and out of hospitals. He then moved into an apartment above WHFS, lifting weights to restore his atrophied muscles and making tentative steps to resume his on-air duties.
Not surprisingly, he turned to his records for relief. A Steely Dan song about an acupuncturist named Dr. Wu intrigued him. He knew that Dr. Wu, who practiced in the Washington area, had helped Steely Dan's Donald Fagan overcome drug addiction.
Ebbert found Dr. Wu, who slowly loosened Damian's rigid muscles. By then, Damian's first marriage had broken up, and Ebbert was a constant companion."
sounds like someone on a real literal interpretation trip
new site looks great, St. Al. hope to delurk more once the holidays hit.
µ...."As for Hornsby - he's a great technician with a limited musical vocabulary."
I'll give you one thing, when you're wrong, you're really wrong!!! Yes, he's a great technician but a limited musical vocabulary??? You'd better rethink that one or give another listen to Hornsby's catalog. There's some great songwriting there.
I still haven't checked out the Ben Folds album. Guess I need to as much as everyone is raving about it. I'm always open for some good new music. Just hope it's not another Beck phenomenon. I heard all the same hype about how great Beck is/was and it just didn't hold water for me. Just another product of the video generation.
Clas....you're more than welcome on the posting of the pic....it's really easy to do, I'm just afraid if we all start abusing the privilege St. Al will put the kibosh on our little html experiments....it eats a lot more bandwidth than posting text.
Blaise....nice pic of Donald....this is from the current sessions for the next one?
working three 12's on Friday, Saturday & Sunday....probably see y'all again on Monday or sooner if something really good pops up.....going to avoid the dreaded post # 666 coming up though...."very superstitious, writings on the wall"
MC
Nice sentiments, Michelle Whiggs. Live long and prosper, also. There can never be too many Dan fans.
Clas: Wait - there was a moment 7 or 8 years ago...trying to remember...I've been pursuaded... that "Harbor Lights" is mostly a very, very fine album. The title track, Talk of the Town, Long,Tall Cool One, and China Doll are really his very best stuff (even better than Spirit Trail) - then it slides into sonora with Fields of Gray, etc. What a Time does have some great chops, also... you can send me that one for Christmas ;-o ...His playing reminds on the first few tracks me a little of... Chuck Leavell (that's where the memory rushed over me on the first few tracks from The Allman Brothers and Sea Level (the first one is a keeper)...Saw Leavell and Co. live in '79? - great then and again in '81? ( when he and his group had certainly lost something - don't know what happened)...
On the other hand...jeez...I hate to say it but even Huey Lewis and his bar band's recording of Hornsby's Jacob's Ladder is more interesting than the Range's...it's ironic that HL did more with that song than any other song in his career and Hornsby may have done less...
Greetings. I have no idea who reads this or where it goes, I would like to say thank you to Mr. Fagen, Mr. Becker, Bumpus ( Nice to see you again) and those fab back up singers. Your are great. Every artist you have featured in the past, present, and future. You have kept me company for nearly thirty years. Being a professional student of sorts, Master's Classical music, Master's in Nursing, working on my doc.( Hey doc, don't you worry). I have written many successful papers and have been published professionally all while listen to " The Guys". I have taken my children to your concerts when you are Florida. It is a rite of Passage in my family. Your have influenced my music composition and my son loves " the sound" of Steely Dan, all the solo's also. When he plays, he uses many of Becker's licks. Thanks again, A Faithful Servant, Michelle
Live Long and Prosper!!!
Clas: It's OK. To each his own...We can't force you to like Ben Folds - do we really want or need to? To be honest, I for one simply can't understand your musical affiliation for Mr. Browne. The guy peaked with The Pretender. Runinn' on Empty is passable if overrated electified American folk, but since then his albums feature mostly marginal songs, unimaginative flat production (Kortchmar style), and loss of rhythm..Occasionally, there's a gem like Shape of a Heart - but even then great song, but dated production...
As for Hornsby - he's a great technician with a limited musical vocabulary. No matter what he plays and what style it sounds the same..."you've got one good trick...
In both cases, they occasionally write political songs - NOW we know??? At least Hornsby occasionally writes more interesting tales. To sum up my opinion of your heroes Clas - BLAND
Having said that, I don't expect my arguments to pursuade you...but I'll pose a few more any way
As for Ben:
1) he writes great, quirky, imaginative songs,
2) he can play ANY style well - the guy can adapt his chops...
3) his recordings have LIFE and SOUL. Remember (OK, that's before the time of any of us here) when recordings had crescendos and decrescedos, dramatic pauses, where the song and the feeling determined the pace, not a Pro-Tools sync-lock...geez, listen to the BH & the Range - it has the rhythmic variety of Disco or for today's version for the kidz - Techno - same thing...
Some like a Mac - Ben Folds
Some like a PC - Hornsby
just one man's opinion...
Brass monkey weather...
I seem to be on top of things this Christmas. All the presents are wrapped and the larder is full. But the hardest part is the cards. Not that I send that many, I just sit and stare for the longest time at a blank piece of paper wondering what to say to someone who means something to me but not enough to communicate with at any other time of the year.
Rented Gaslight last week. 1944 B/W 2hrs. Good movie. Worth it not only to see where the term comes from but to see Angela Lansbury's debut. She has an anorexic Bernadette Peters thing happening.
Flashback time:
St.Al: Never liked acid BECAUSE I couldn't sleep when I wanted. The last time(20 odd years ago) I couldn't get Gino Vanelli's Wheels of Life out of my head. Which brings me to...
453Mu: Was there an answer to your high fidelitized question or was it strictly personal opinion? I was lead to believe that Gino Vanelli was tops in terms of clarity, dealing personally with Albert and Moss( A&M) and using a new 40-track system. But I might be wrong!! And524 was funny.
474Steveedan:I've heard that 10cc name myth before and I don't know where it originated, but 2-10cc is the range in our lab and I personally haven't seen any over 6. I hear a collective sigh in the lower register. Btw, we don't do them anymore in our lab, thank God. I would rather deal in shit than some other guys yank. 555 was a nice slice of life.
493Father william: (Is that an actual poem, or something Lewis Carroll made up for Alice to recite?) Interesting article on pleasure/pain.
530z:RU sure U want UR students to B reading about themselves? What about the EJWPR?
615zeke: Love ARS, but didn't listen to Quinella, just earlier and can't tell you what it was called. We used to get our busdriver to put the ARS 8-track in when we got on.
571LP: Cake is on Late Show or Late Night, tonight or tomorrow. Is that specific enough? I know I programmed the VCR for it along with Stereophonics( another specific time which I can't come up with) tonight or tomorrow.
573W1P: I'm interested, just not in the vicinity. I appreciate the info. though.
And Daaaano, the Dan is not general party music. Suss the audience before you suggest any mere inkling of intelligence( which is inversely proportional to the amount of intoxicants being consumed) in music. Even if you yourself have become altered, mentally, this decision becomes increasingly complicated and should be arrived at by general consensus, taking into account above law. There is, however, an exception: The FUCKYOU clause which allows owner or renter of establishment or facility to play anything they want as long as they realize they can make or break a party with the touch of a button. Me, I usually broke it.
Does raw onion give you nightmares? The last 2 nights I've woken up, tension high, and coincidentally have been eating spinach salad and donairs
for meals.
###Steviedan: Love all your stuff.
Till next week,be good. He knows it when you're sleeping, He knows when your awake. Not something I'd be telling anyone, eh?
Soooo...finally having delivered a DVD (JVC XVSA75GD) progressive scan player (OK, it NOT high end - I ain't Q!) that does DVD-V, DVD-A, CD, CDR) AND Aja - Classic Albums DVD. But I don't think my DVD player can handle the newish (1999) SONY/Philips SACD. There are new expensive units that have the Universal Chip - could be in WlaMart in 5 years. Joni Mitchell's engineer loves SACD, but am I really missing anything? Q? Edd?
The lineup:
CD: 16 bit; sampling = 44.1 kHz; S/N = 93-96 dB; data rate 6.144Mbps; storage = 650 MB; bandwidth less than 20 kHz
DVD-A: 24 bit; sampling = 192 kHz; S/N = 144 dB; data rate = 9.6 Mbps; storage =
* 4.7GB - Single layer
* 8.5GB - Dual Layer
* 17GB Ð Double Sided Dual Layer
bandwidth = 64 kHz
SACD (super audio CD): DSD (direct stream digital as opposed to pulse coding); sampling =2.82 MHz; S/N = 120 dB; data rate = 2.8 Mbps; storage similar to DVD-A; bandwidth = a hound howling 100 kHz
The inadequate sampling and storage of CDs and sorry mastering have left many of us "flat" for many years vs. vinyl - though the SD re re master kick ass!
The sampling rate and storage of DVD-A should be enough. Why do you need a bandwidth > 64 kHz?
The SACDs have bits that are coded different - direct stream digital. Is this different than a square pulse? The technology is called "Direct Stream Digital" or DSD. Bits aren't stored as "words" but indicate what's different (louder vs. softer) than the last bit in a stream. I'm not sure how that comes out in practice - is it like a "fuzz" bit? Also, can a tweeter even handle 100 kHz? ...and if so will this "bury" Pompe? (I'll throw you a bone on that joke, Clas)
Why SACD? Do I want it? Do I need it if I have DVD-A?
http://ambisonic.net/sacdvdada.html
just want to say that I love your music, I got to go to my first STEELY DAN
CONCERT in Dallas about 1 1/2 ago it was the Best!, Hope to see you guys
again in concert keep up the good job....Really enjoy! your two against
nature cd.
St. Al,
when you analyze apple vs. pc you make perfect sense except for one element -- user-friendliness. i don't own a mac cause they're too expensive for what they offer, as you say. but i've used one, and the mac programs were always more logical. you could figure them out intuitively without a book. you don't notice this cause tek is your game. but windows on a pc is a piece of shit.
Hi Everybody
Well where shall I start..
Re-fuelled my petrol lighter this week & you know I do think it make's a difference the ''fags'' taste better. Any thoughts.
UK's gone Lord of the rings BONKERS so put away all you're Harry Potter stuff already.
The end of the Mac.
My friends & I went to se St Julian of Cope this year & he had 3 Mac's on stage .. All switched off because & I'm quoting here'' they make great mirrors'' on stage that is.
These times sure are a changing.
Great!! I'm struggling to get pic's up & people are changing fonts & colours at the same time.
SD Movie saw Jeff Golblum again last night.. He's a dead cert for Don, I know he's tall but cant something be done about that.
TWM you're from Glasgow you must know ''Kneecappers'' (LOL)
On a more sober note.
Phil L was not impressed that I relayed his ''speeding pooh story'' had a very nasty e back on Saturday
Please nobody mention it again.
12/12/2001-12-12 Had first carol singer round tonight I small boy on his own singing 1 verse of a carol I almost recognised.. Linda dealt with it…
I fuckin knew it after Halloween everybody in the district knows what a soft touch we are.
I said comeback next week…Linda wanted to give him 50p (90c) I gave her 35.
Must be Christmas, Eva Cassidy made me cry tonight Somewhere over the rainbow.
Radio played Cliff's version today that also made me cry.
Listening to Kamakiriad tonight… ahhhh the summer we never had.
Saw Louis Armstrong on Sunday in the Glenn Miller story.
Rented Enemy at the gates.. Must say Ed Harris just gets better & better how long before the Oscar nomination comes his way.
Bought some nuts at the weekend..Linda won't let me eat them yet….Ehhh It's Christmas
Working on the family website most evenings at the moment struggling with CMS but if you want quick look at what's up so far its lindunk.co.uk
Russians.. all wusses 10 years my arse.
Bloody cold here
More jokes this morning thank's to everyone who bothers I really appreciate them first thing … makes me laugh whilst I'm waiting for the bank to come on line..Why do bank's take so long?
End of spam?
European government have outlawed the sending of spam messages at last I must get 4/5 each morning, A small price to pat for communicating with all my friends.
Jamie my twin has closed orders for puddings after selling 124.. His fingers hurt from wrapping them & His Spouse Sall had to tie all the Bow's as Jamies where, well ''Crap'' the WOMANS touch.
Saw Arron Neville on TV last week, at last a man with less stage presents than Don.
Wonder what Arron's up to at the moment ?
Lynda Ronstad just looked like an old hooker…ooooooooooohhh get back in the knife draw
Dano.. up north B 4 Christmas
Cyn. Staying in the US for Xmas or another holiday?
Chat later anyone?
Steviedan, I really don't want to comment on the Magna Carta Floyd disc because I am in the process of putting a similar concept in motion. Does that make any sense?
BB Kings is presenting Jack Bruce tonight backed by Vernon Reid, Bernie Worrell, Richi Flores and El Negro Horacio Hernandez, so I'll be down amongst the hoardes of tourists, foxy 19 y/olds straight out of a Bebe catalog, and middle aged rockers and musicians of a certain ilk.
Envy me? Bah! Envy the Aus Man, with his spruce aromatherapy mansion overlooking NYU dorm rooms, just south of Gramercy Park. Envy those who enjoy the season!
Envy the fact that in a few days, the days will be getting longer. Envy the fact that in 2 weeks, this mass-hysteria will all be over!
Envy those who have love in their lives, who aren't self-parodying, and those who clean their apartments regularly.
Bah!
ygk
629 - auss - do arrive early, John Paul Jones is a fabulous treat
and playes everything except the kitchen sink
what a double bill Crim and Jonesy
I can picture your Christmas tree at the far wall left side with the shimmer of Union Square Tower behind it... magical
send me your snail mail address so I can embellish the season with you and yours
627 chere - nice to see you
I know your sister is driving you nuts and has all the wrong karma
but be nice to her and hers and send a little positive her way
619 green earrings - good to see you here
enjoyed your radio survey
elvis pretty much said it all
"it's only inches on the reel to reel..."
you can finish that one
615 Zeke , you missed SUPERTRAMPS big reunion
it started in 98 and is bigger than ever
Supertramp - is the pride of Louisiana - Miss Britney Spears
blaise - I miss that dark dungeon and white canvas
wormy
Chere-love-child-brujita-bar-none: Nice to see you emerge from out of nowhere....let's plan to speak before Christmas. Hang in there kiddo, you know I love you.
LuckLess Pedestrian: for emotional blastoff blast the desk today...I'll sing you a song my dear June.
Green Earrings: Nice to see you too BTW.
Ed Beatty: Have fun skiing in UTAH brother! KAWABUNGA!
Dean Wurmer: Krimso show tomarra. I'm so excited I can barely cope.
Put up a gorge Blue Spruce Christmas tree at home this past Saturday...Ten feet tall and full full full....Babes decorated it finely with strands of white lights, red bows, white bows and two new decorative additions for this year: a lobster box compleat with red lobster styling atop of it from Newport Rhode Island and a cool as shit New York Yankee miniature game Jersey....open the door to the flat and an incredible blast of pine odour greets you at the foyer....nothing beats Christmas....in my glory.
Shouts to: Sir Steviedan, Malcolm Hunter, Jim Sharppe, Pat Beemer and the inimitable Oleander.
Aus
Blaise.....that's some scary shit (the Washington Times article)....hope the guy doesn't know what he's talking about....we may find out very soon.
Clas....have you been watching Mickey Blue Eyes? fuhgetaboudit!!.....here's a little something for you:
I thought we'd stick with the small version to preserve the peace here.
off to make my rounds....catch up with y'all later today.
MC
I hope I have been missed cause I sure have been missing all of YOU!!!!! I have been very very busy. My mom has been in town. My sister had foot surgery so my mommy came down to take care of her and she (my lil sis =) has been themost ungrateful, wretched disrespectful and a million other heinous things to my mother since she arrived. Her husband the hadji freak too. I cann't believe that mother fucker had the audacity to disrespect my mother too. to say ANYTHING to my mother out of the way. let me tell you folks. I am one unhappy bitch these days. My mom has been hysterical and very very sad sice she has been here. My sister cannot walk. Both feet were operated on, her husband is IN and out of ton with his work so Mommy does eveerything from cook to wipe her ass and listen to her MOUTH and mean spirited karma and I have had enough. I seriously checked her, promptly removed my mom from the house and got her back home in a million pieces and tried to put her back together again. My mom is now not speaking to my sister. My sister is hysterical now, feels like the victim (what fucking ever!) wants sympathy. I am DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Her husband is so high on my shit list that one false move or breath out of him and he could very well be dreadfully sorry for breathing in my direction. I just totally binge ate breakfast his morning- guess what i had out of being toally upset? a huge banana smothered in raspberry creme honey. I suspect the sugar content will send me into orbit. So I am so not the brightest crayon in the box these days. My litle siter leaves for Dubaion the 19th woith her freak husband. That also (even though I am so pissed at her ) makes me VERY uncomfortable. I am not in a Christmas mood at all. I am ONLY doing it for my neice and nephew. The little angels in Hialeah I occasionally write you about. They are TOO sweet. I spent my entire disability cheque and some extra on my honey and bought him a guitar. He is a very happy man and it is so soothing to hear him stroking away again. I am hoping I'll get a song from him between Christmas and New Years. That would make me smile hardcore. So would some shout outs and love from my peeps here. So show some love to the illin' juju chile'. BTW the new GB is wicked nice. I just LOVE it!!! Nice Work St Al!!!!!!!!!!!
All my love and alot of my karma- I am pretty tapped out- Mommy is priority these days. But I KNOW you ALL know I got Nuttin' but love for you all. Holler!- Love and kisses and juju on your toast, ReeRee
steviedan....Saturday @ The Ritz in Raleigh.....unfortunately, I have to work 12 hours Saturday & Sunday : (
Train with special guests Too Far Jones
The Ritz - Raleigh
Saturday, December 15 at 8 PM
On sale now!
angel.....thanks for the comments on my really ugly html experiment wishing everyone Happy Holidays....I hadn't played with any of that in years....it was fun but I'm sure annoying for most. : )
Blaizee - ehhh, I just meant that I have some problems answering emails right now, I mean, if you're wondering. No big deal. Jusd forged aboud it.
re your link - scary shit.
I went to mc Donalds site, listened to his christmas songs, oh lord, can't stand that shit “...ohhh, happy christmas beeejby...”
C
When he's crying out..."
But seriously...
Clas - What do you mean?
I'm on the street again. I walk alone down the Miracle Mile to the streets of Culver city and they put you on the street, luckless pedestrian, yeah. The man on the street, dragging his feet, the people on the streets have all seen better times. Streets still unseen, uptown, it's murder out in the street. We'll find somehow everybody on the street has murder in his eyes. Look at all the white men on the street. They won't act as kindly if they see you on the street. Men in gray limousines, they'll drive you down, luckless pedestrian. yeah. You take a walk on Bleak Street, all the streets are slick with tears. Stanyan street looking like that third world war, we hit the street with visors down...
Alright, now, who sent me reeling down there?
We hike downtown to Avenue A like we own the street. Someday we'll all meet at the end of the street, we're gonna mix in the street, by and by, when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy, luckless pedestrian, yeah. And we'll walk between the raindrops back to yo doh... (let me hear you say "oh oh")
To New York City, 52nd street's the junction, we're gonna park in the street. I'm thinking of a major Jane street sunrise. You fellah, you're tearing up the street, down to Green Street, there you go through these suburban streets, these little streets I used to know...
dr Mu - I certainley hope so, I once bought a Ben Fold fives album. I buried that one.
So, Mu, tell me, I how do I do to insert a pic of Pompe on this board?
StAAAL! - who's responsible for the casting at this new board? I miss Meg Ryan.
Blaisee - I'm a little fucked up with my email-addresses and stuff, I have installed broad band, my new email address is:
clas@ateljelundkvist.se
Stevee - I missed you again, next time...
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“...if you've constantly pointed to other players and thought that they were possesed something you didn't, or if you've practiced for years and never really improved, or if you always play great but your music lacks depth and meaning for you, read on.”
Effortless mastery by Kenny Werner
I bought that book today. Cool shit.
C
Zeke- Did they show Paul S. hopping around on "Do It Again?" or did they play "Black Friday" which had less of Shaffer's jumping around?
Green earrings- This radio research is a good idea. I suggest you do a research on which radio stations don't give a shit about us the undiscriminative listeners. However, there is a new format called Satellite Radio in which you can buy a home or car stereo compatible to it and you can get 100 stations for ten bucks a month. You can hear different styles of music such as Jazz, soul, rock, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, country, even real country folks like Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson. Supposedly commercial free. You can get also, sports, comedy, NPR and news like CNBC and CNN. Unfortunately, you also get Fox News, but other than that, the channels are supposed to be a way out of being forced to listen to crap that you don't want. You can listen to Classic Jazz like Miles and Coltrane or if you like soppy Jazz like Kenny G., there's contemporary. I'd might want to ask for a DJ job if possible.
If you know anybody who works in Satellite Radio looking for applicants, let me know.
Everyone- On the lastest issue or More ( a magazine devoted to women over 40) Rosie Vela has a one page profile. She's 43 years old.
yes clas, or pre-taste as the case may be...
grnerrngs, good to see you checking the new digs here. everyone should experience radio market research to see exactly how much trouble crappy programming really can be. it's "scientific" so it's absolutely failsafe.
angel, a numbered rating system would be entirely too obvious, totally blowing my subtlety here...
lp, child you feel free to lean on the trees here.
w1p, just so happens that i was listening to "moon revisited" while posting last night. i was kind of curious what you thought of it. as much as i enjoy many of the magna carta stable of bands and all their yes/genesis influences, and despite a couple of harmonic alterations that were cool... well i was left with the aftertaste that, with all the near verbatum readings, well enough could have been left alone...
i guess that would be one for clas...
mu, "buries" ???
Hello All, first official posting on the new GB
Thought I woould wait until I had a SD related item which I do sort of...
Tonight I participated in a radio research seminar obviously sponsered by the station that is "smooth jazz" but is also one of the two stations that play Steely Dan. The other of couse is a classic rock station where you only hear Reelin' and Rikki.
Anyway, they played us 4 second snippets of 650 tunes over 2+ hours with the majority being Kenny G soprano sax crap and similar that makes me puke. We had a little dial controller that we used to rate the songs from 0 for absolutley hate it up to 100 for love it. Besides the occasional Doobie Bros, Sting and James Taylor the majority was smooth jazz that all sounded the same after two hours and I rated between 20 and 50 on the scale.
However, during the evening there were 5 tunes from the boys including, Deacon Blues, Black Cow, Time Out of Mind, I.G.Y and Peg. Of course I cranked the dial up to 100 each time hoping the station will get the message. They did play Gaslighting and Cousin when 2VN came out but the cuts are to far and few between soprano sax leads to warrant any regular listening. Anyway, I was one of 55 people, they paid us 50 bucks each and I hope there were a few other Dan Fans in the room.
Shout out to everyone and Happy Holidays to all and to all a goodnight!
Hang in there lp.
"The people on the street have all seen better times..."
Like I've said (and written in publications) before, there are various reasons for using the various types of computers. If you are just using IE and Office or need a terminal at a financial institution that runs one app (which where a significant percentage of Wintel machines are placed), then there may not, on that particular count, be much reason to specifically use a Mac, assuming the advantages and disadvantages of each OS is not an personal preference issue for you. I
n other contexts, Macs cost more up-front but are significantly cheaper over a three-year lifecycle in terms of productivity; a contributing factor to this is how Mac OS is purposely designed to include such technolgies. Firewire/IEEE 1394 was developed by Apple and Sony. I've worked with PowerBooks and Vaios that have it and the PowerBook and the MacOS handle it much better (i.e. less crashing, better recognition by the programs and OS, etc.) So if I needed IEEE 1394 that would be a consideration, that may or may not be also influenced by whether or not I liked to tinker with sysedit and the like, my past experience, etc. There are several factors interacting here.
Tonight, I'm preparing for next semester where in one studio, the modeling/animation software "Maya" will be taught. There Maya is being used and taught on Win2K, as well as three SGIs, since that is what Maya runs best on, even though there is an Mac OS X version of Maya (which is not as "good"). On the other hand, some students will be working with digital video on a simple basis with no time for instruction. They should use a G4 Lab which is usually used for Photoshop. Generally, for most users, G4s edge out Pentiums for Photoshop (I'm talking speed, font handling, and other interface issues.)
It's sorta like comparing Schwarzenegger and Nureyev. Both great athletes: one is/was better at body building and sheer brawn but would make a terrible ballet dancer; and vice versa.
FYI: "MAC" is a data comm device. "Mac" is a Macintosh computer.
St AL. - It's a matter of convience on my part. When I got my first computer(used, as always), I thought that not having 40 different companies trying to get their products to cooperate in my computer was a *plus*, back when you absolutely had to upgrade the soundcard in your brand new pc to get *stereo* (that use to account for the extra cost, Blaiser). I was really impressed that hooking up my Mac to my soundsystem was easier than hooking up a tape deck; didn't need "drivers" and all that stuff 'cause they were already in there. And if I did need help, there was only one place to call; didn't have to try to remember which company made what, then sit on tech support for an hour only to find out it was the other company I should have called...
But I'm not as technically motivated by my choice of computers as you and others may be. I just want the damn thing to work when I want, and to be able to fix the minor stuff when it doesn't. To me, Macs are easier in that respect (the words "config sys" still make me shiver), and though I've had some problems, most of them are because I never have the state of the art computer in front of me and I always have to deal with standards rising faster than I can keep up. But as long as I can do the basic things I want, like coming here to harass you about using pc's, I'm happy.
Heck, I'm even considering using Internet Exploder to get into chat one of these days...
And I never really thought you were off the bus... heh heh...
u-squiggle - Crackin' me up with the Gates joke there... do you do standup?
Mu: Looks like Supertramp will come out to play in 2002. No USA dates yet.
One more on "clean sound". don't mean to sound neckish, but ARS had some pretty clean stuff. Quinella was impressive. Nice vocals and guitars.
VH-1 replayed the R&RHOF. What the hell was Paul S. thinking???
Because I hate being wrong, even though, I admit, I was...
I thought I'd show you a benchmark comparison between the 2 platforms. Rather than continue to bore the rest of you over specifics and semantics, here it is...
http://www.techtv.com/products/hardware/story/0,23008,3339307,00.html
I still maintain when it comes right down to it the MAC holds no significant performance lead over the PC as far as end users are concerned, and I seriously wonder why anyone would shell out so many more dollars for this perceived privilege? The PC they used in the test cost HALF of what that G4 would run.
Ok, so benchmark testing is ambiguous.
i see a similarity to people that would like sd would like fleetwood mac, but not all the rest of that list likely
cd of the week on my player at the office, coincidentally, is the rumours release by fleetwood mac - top picks: dreams, the chain, gold dust woman
b and the amen crowd, check out my ode
emotionally out of commission, be back soon
Sorry, St. Al...Wrong Century. Jobs booted the SCSI (scuzzy) years ago for 128 bit internal buses and USB and IEEE1394. Yes, Apple engineers INVENTED USB and IEEE 1394 (or firewire) to communicate with peripherals including digital video. Sony designs the industry best pro-sumer digital still and video cameras around Firewire and Macs. IEEE 1394 is now the industry standard for data transfer...maybe, some folks are just LEADERS!
I'll give you this - that if you have the time and inclination to build your own computer - ya gotta go PC. In fact, the computer dorks in our department spend most of their time doing that or buying new toys at our expense instead of their freakin' job: building better networks for classroom use with better compatiblity and providing in-services and support to faculty and staff. A/V set-ups before reknowned researchers presented in our seminar (that I was responsible for this semester) were a running joke/disaster...
Mu: Ahhh yes, the data bus argument. Well, you're halfway correct. SCSI is a better technology when there are multiple devices trying to yak on the bus at the same time. However, the new EIDE w/bus mastering found almost all PC's over the last 3-4 years can STOMP on a similarly equipped machine with a SCSI bus. Let's face it, unless you're talking RAID on a server, or multiple drives (CD towers, 3 or more hard drives), the newer EIDE standard beats SCSI especially when you factor cost vs. performance. Also, the lower priced Mac's to which you refer use EIDE. In most cases the performance gain of SCSI isn't worth the added cost for the average user/application.
The performance argument no longer works. It really comes down to preference and what you're used to. There are some benchmarks the MAC outperforms the PC in, but there are just as many the PC wins.
Don't get me wrong. I think Apple makes great computers. In fact, when I used to work on them I always marveled at their construction and engineering. However, this quality came at a price. Even back then they cost 20% - 30% more than a comparable PC.
Tones: The reason I chose the PC over the MAC is choice. I like choice. I don't particularly like one single company dictating everything from the OS to the hardware to the applications I can run. That's what you get with Apple (though they may finally be seeing the light in this area with the new OS). Even though PC's and Windows are often considered one, they're not. I have a host of other choices available to me, from the OS I run, to the hardware I place in the machine. I can even chose from 2 or 3 different CPU manufacturers.
So the real question is who is REALLY following the heard?
StAl
Steviedan, yes I am a proud owner of The Moon Revisited. The Final Cut is "so Roger" but Dave's still there to provide a little listenability. It's depressing but high quality -- although some of it drones on and on -- but that's the beauty of CD technology -- don't have to pick up the needle to skip.
Clas: Hey, I like most of the old stuff. Philosophy, Video, Boxing, Evaporated, Magic, Army, etc. are all great recordings. The fidelity varied from cut to cut - but there are some great songs and sharp ideas throughout the BB5 catalog. But I'll let you in on a secret (close your eyes Oleander!): to paraphrase Dr. Fagen, Ben's new one BURIES the others...
Angel: I can say with absolute certainty that I was the LAST to know. I don't do Windows or Web stuff (OK, I tried Adobe PageMill for 4 hours and got up one page - then quit - that was 2 years ago)...
Blaise: The price thing was only true pre-Steve Jobs II. From a performance price and real speed standpoint - the Macs are more than in the ball game. You can nab a fast Mac for under a $1000...you can always pay more for what will be under $1000 next year, but why if budget is a concern. The Mac data buses are superhighways while most of the PC buses are still dirt roads...A 2 GB processor does no good if ya can't get on the bus!! Besides, why would I want to make Gates come up faster anyway - just ask his wife!!! They don't call it Microsoft for nothing!! Bwaaaahhaaaaahhaaaa...
(600) Steveedan: With my luck, it will end up being me. (666)
(605) B: "F Blaise" You just don't want to go there.
(597) steviedan: How about take it a step further, put a rating number in the donut hole. You can still use the accessories for extra points. Hmmmm.... maybe I should do a Google for Donuts and see what's out there. :-)
(595) Ole! Marengo, as in "They danced the famous Marengo?" Great Napoleonic reference. Where do you come up with such things?
Mu: If you have one sane thought left, you will not forward that special secret HTML code anywhere. It dies with you, Mu. :-)
Amazing thing about that Neil Young song. I heard it once and can actually call up the tune at will. Doesn't usually happen that way, for me.
ole - Yes, you spotted another Napoleonic reference. Interesting.
steveedan - It's not so much late as it is early. Might as well give up on sleep altogether for today, huh? Happy Hanukah.
Off to the dentist now. Wiah me luck. argh
Remember that commercial jingle on TV from long ago?
"Take care of your teeth
Na na na na na na na (drawing a blank)
And it's never too late to start"
My advice: Don't draw a blank on those lyrics. It could be painful in the long run.
Ciao
Blaise - Dude! I wasn't making fun of your typos. Really. I was just trying to make sure that I understood what you were saying. I am still not sure that I did, but I certainly wasn't poking fun at you for typos.
Of course I commit the same typographical errors from time to time, but ...
Do you realize how late it is in LA right now? WTF am I doing still being up?
Good Morning, and Good Night. Good God. Good Grief.
SleeplessDan
I think Smiley actually makes a case FOR Macintosh, despite himself.
Simple: With Apple, you pay too much for what you get. Performance and stability is often related to user behavior and it's hard to reach conclusions upon seeing a few cases like this but one thing is for sure: you pay way too much for what it's worth. For the price you pay, you'd get a Wintel machine twice as powerful. Bottom line. Suit yourself.
Clas - Yes it's one of those moments. I had the Steely playlist in the background while I was reading the Newsweeek story about John Walker and in comes TWM and it goes "Johnny's playroom is a bunker filled with sand, he's become a Third World man...", and I went "wtf?". And so I shared with y'all. As usual, some were not impressed by this eerie coincidence. That's ok, I understand. It's always "Blaise this" and "Blaise that" and "thank you Blaise" or whatever. I know I'd say "Fuck Blaise!", if I wasn't Blaise, naturally. lol
later guys.
Stevee, there's nothing worse than when you try to make fun of someone's typos and you write a dozen in the process, eh?
It took a couple of tries and a system crash, but I am in chat right now ... all by myself. Is anyone in Europe around?
Steveedan
Trying again... yawn
Hi Clas --
It's late here in Los Angeles, but I have a little time. Meet me in chat. I will be there for about 5 minutes waiting to see if you show up. I hope you can.
Steveedan
JW Malibu - I guess you changed your name?
Stevee - I have a friend here in Sweden, a real talented mother, back in early 70's he was my hero, he wrote wonderful songs, he played in a band named WildCactus, the songs he wrote were different, magic, and thrilled my mind.
Well, something happened, we grew older and we lost contact. I run in to him at a shopping mall ten years ago, he had a gig there with his band “Liverpool”, a Beatles cover band. And I swear, those guys played Beatles better than Beatles ever did, and sang better than Lennon and mc Cartney together. And they were dressed up in those st Pepper clothes.
Later this guy participated in a Swedish contest ”Aiming for the Stars”, on TV, he won the contest, being John Lennon, he did “Imagine” so fucking good, if you closed your eyes you couldn't tell the difference between the copy and the original. The only thing missing was Yoko Ono coming in yelling.
Of course, he made a carrier on being John Lennon in Sweden, he made pretty good money, and of course I was happy for him.
But still, I was a little sad. Couldn't help thinking; why the hell couldn't he stick to his own stuff? He just gave up.
I hate that.
C
It looks like I snagged post #600. Whoever gets #666 is the devil for sure ...
Clas - you asked about Wu and TSD how fun is it really to listen to someone other than Fagen sing the tunes. I admit that Bob Tedde?s voice does not sound really close to Fagen?s but from what I saw on video, Bob and Company really play well. Their arrangements are authentic and their performances are inspired and inspiring. Not even the mediocre video tape that I have could mask their obvious talent. I have to go and see them play. That?s all there is to it.
As far as the Doctor Wu band is concerned, I just saw them for the 5th time last Tuesday night. I have an insatiable appetite for Steely Dan music. Besides, the bandmembers of the Doctor Wu band have become, I am proud to say, my good friends. We have a lot in common, to say the least.
Also Jay Dubs is JWMailbu, and I believe you know him well.
Hi Blase ? how are you? You wrote: "So let me get this straight, stevee. You insist on being atevee here, yet you don't mind being "guest 7" in chat... guest 7, that's a beautiful name, isn't it?"
"And why do you take this personnally. You will never please everyone, buddie, get used to it. We happen to think the Fagen vocals are a defining element of the sound, one you can't really do without. Doesn't make you any less of a keyboard player, really." (Thank you Blaise.)
By atevee, did you mean Stevee instead of Stevie? And I have never been ?guest # anthing? in chat, I have always used Steveedan. I really don?t take this stuff personally, though it may appear that way. I would say though, that there is a difference between a band playing the music well, and dare I say it, the lead singer might be able to get pretty darn close to sounding like Donald Fagen, but, to say that the band in question playing covers is like Jose Greco singing, well, singing anything, is really not nice, or fair unless the band is really that bad. But everyone?s entitled to their own opinion so I don?t feel like I was slighted.
The bottom line is that I devote a lot of time to playing music these days, and the majority of it is Steely Dan music. So, regardless of how the bands I play with might be perceived, I am really having a great time doing it, and for me that is enough. If you ever get to Los Angeles, look me up, or e-mail me so that I know you are coming and I will take you to see one of the Steely Dan tribute bands (or have you come to one of my gigs) and then you can tell me what you honestly think. I would really like that. I hunbly believe that you would enjoy the experience.
Steviedan - I haven't written directly to you in a long time. I agree with what you said to Clas about the end result being the important aspect. How the song got there is not as important as the end result being successful (i.e., being enjoyable to the listener - the end user). Also, as we start to generalize things, we all get into trouble. There will always be exceptions to the rules, and music is one of the mass produced and mass enjoyed mediums which demonstrate this fact so often.
To Mark of Boston - Yay #1 !!! Thank you Sir !
Wishing everyone great holidays with family and friends.
Steveedan
Stevie - theoretically that is, but, no. I have been an obsessed fan for so long, and what would it be worth if some guy came up and painted exactly as van Gogh? I would immediately lose interest. The magic would be gone in five seconds.
But that's just me.
And “semantics”, “drummachines” and “if the end result is good”, that's a matter of taste isn't it?
C
dr Mu - great stuff on your daughter! What is this about left- and rightbrained people?
And Ben Folds, he better be better than he was when he had a band :)
I talked to my son this morning, I told him we have to do a Steely Dan-parody this year.
He said “Isn't that what we've been doing all the time?”
Did I raise a snake or what? Fucking hip-hopper.
And please mr Doc, once StAl is giving you the mysthical sphere, pass it over to me when you're done with it, uh? I have some great pics of my dog. His name is Pompe... bla bla bla...
Blaise - that Third World Man stuff, it's hair raising. As you said, suddenly the lyrics make sense. Whoah!
C
angel, i believe that jelly could be IMPLIED perhaps. hole ? no hole ? the various doughnut accessorifications could be a sort of rating system. plain could be a close qualifier, while dusted with powdered sugar would indicate a finely decorated masterpiece. what would it mean to you if a disc rated a cruller or two ???
then there's always the hoecake, cause ho's gotta eat too.
ole, as to your nomination of the fleck... now you've sure done it lady because stevie must have it for it to qualify. here i go again...
w1p, please refer to 559, the steviedan recalculation (not recalcification) where i included "the wall" or most of it anyway. for a dull moment i was thinking that "animals" followed "the wall". for you i'll give "the final butt" a listen... er "cut"... have you heard "the moon revisited" on the magna carta label, a tribute by some young prog bands ?
clas, personally i am open to hearing well done performances/readings of well written songs. it really depends on the quality. theoretically, if you heard a band that sounded EXACTLY like sd, would you NOT like the music merely because it was NOT actually d & w. as much as i might deify w & d and certainly we do, it's really about the music they have created. i would really like to hear some REALLY GOOD fresh interpretations of these great compositions. this also parallels the sequencing/programming angle as well. i don't give a shit if you use household appliances if the end result is good music. the rest is semantics.
now duncan, there are mANY miles between buddies guy and rich. i believe you mean the buddy rich version...
lp, weren't we talking about cake before thanksgiving ? i remember suggesting that someone bring "the cake", as cake is good although the pun is not.
Hey ole! How's it goin?
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Is it me, or does it look like G. Dudya and daughter were just caught doing lines?
Well yo out there. Back from extended lurkage. Happy holidays to all and scurvy.
Ben Folds YES!! I'm still enjoying RTS in the car--but I still favor some of the old tunes.... Seeing him live was BODACIOUS.
Mark D--You the MAN. Thanks so much.
stevied--nominee for stevie's disc of the week @ some point: Bela Fleck "Perpetual Motion." Is there ANYTHING the guy can't do? Just wish it weren't so choppy--too many short little tunes.
z--so do you have anything you can put on TecMo 2K+1? Get with Schwinn already.
Cake: I like their version of "I Will Survive."
Got one word for you: Marengo. I used to think it was a corruption of "merengue," but I SHOULD KNOW BETTER. And should have made note that that the Battle of Marengo, June 1800, was perhaps THE decisive battle of Napoleon's young career; it was a very weird battle, won unexpectedly, and enabled Napoleon both to take power in France and inspire the invention of chicken Marengo. Perhaps we should add the recipe to St. Al's Steely recipe page. At any rate, another burnished Steely double entendre....
Don't worry 'bout me, :), it's no sweat off my proboscis. I'm used to swimming upstream. But maybe you should branch out in your culinary experience... Who's to say they didn't steal the name from the high-end audio manufacturer?
t
I just love that smiley face guy, don't you dad?
T-man:
Ok, sorry for picking on your hamburger machine. I
realize that you're having a hard time coming to grips
with the fact that you're like one of three people left
on earth still using the thing. PC's rule, they rule now
and they rule the future. Not sure if they rule the
afterlife yet.
Dragon:
Awww.... stickin' up for the hamburger guy. That's nice.
FROM THIS GROUP'S RESIDENT UNDERTAKER:
Everyone in chat always wants to know "How's Business?"
Well I'm embalming those bodies and I'm just about to drop
death waits for no one and it's working me around the clock
and I'm writing the obits and trying to catch the phone
little blue haired ladies just won't leave me alone
If you look closely you will see
what happens to a has been radio personality......
(583) St. Al: Aaaaaak! You did what? Gave the HTML secret code to u thingie? The horror. Now look what you've gone and done. LOL
(586) (as if you didn't know)
MC: Isn't Goodyear working you hard enough? You are making online greetings already? Looks real nice, though.
(584) Blaise: Good take on Third World Man.
Gonna have to take a listen to Ben Folds. I think we are reaching critical mass here.
Steveedan -- oh, so I wasn't the only one having a s*^&&%! day.
mu -- you forgot more credits. Check your liner notes.
:) -- Ever heard of a MacIntosh it's a great kind of apple, baaad burger. Not fast food, good food. And their pretty too, kind of like some of those older cars like '57 Chevy's. Of course you probably go for those Red Delicious the ones that remind you of the candy apple red vehicles of your youth.
Dragon
No, it doesn't bother me at all, but it seems to really bother you. Maybe you should just hunker down with a vat of "special" sauce and just try to get past it...
In fact, Super Size it...
So I guess it does'nt bother you that your computer is
named after a hamburger. You are programming on a
hamburger machine. How Apple got away with ripping off
the name of one of McDonalds biggest sellers is beyond me.
Why toss out the virus issue? That's like saying that even though Volvo's are safer, it doesn't matter because you can still die if you drive fast enough. They're still safer, right? And the fact that no one bothers to write a Mac virus is ok by me St Al... I'll be busy rebuilding my desktop and moving on with my life while you pc folk run Nortons... heh heh...
Btw, don't you think Macs are a bit like the Grateful Dead of computers? Worshiped by a dedicated few in the face of misunderstanding and disdain from the establishment. I bet Jerry even used a Mac...
C'mon St. Al, ditch that pc and get back on the bus...
:-D
t
Prophetic lyrics dedicated to John Walker, American Taliban:
Johnny's playroom
Is a bunker filled with sand
He's become a third world man
Smoky Sunday
He's been mobilized since dawn
Now he's crouching on the lawn
He's a third world man
Soon you'll throw down your disguise
We'll see behind those bright eyes
By and by
When the sidewalks are safe
For the little guy
I saw the fireworks
I believed that I was dreaming
Till the neighbors came out screaming
He's a third world man
When he's crying out
I just sing that Ghana Rondo
E l'era del terzo mondo
He's a third world man
See? Now it all makes sense, finally. Life, it imitates art.
Tones my good man. The virus debate doesn't hold any water. MAC's are every bit as susceptible to a virus as a PC is. The only difference is no one wants to take the time to write one for the MAC since no one uses them...
Ok, ok, I'll shut up.
I just sent some HTML instructions to U-thingy. I fear what lies ahead.
I hear Bill Gates uses a Mac... because he can afford the very best...
:-)
More stable? Maybe... I'm sure the postmaster general of that small town in Alaska really appreciated how stable our pc was when he complained to us that a virus we didn't even know we had had sent him 25,000(!!!) emails from the P(iece of)C(rap) at work last month. Btw, that comma and all those zeros are in the right place...
Btw lp... Cake is great. For the cd release party for their previous album, they played the bar mitzvah of one of their fans in Florida. In the back yard...
"more to come"...
t
St. Al: The Mac is only more unstable IF a) you run system below 10.1 and certainly below 8.6, b) you do not allocate enough memory to the programs (this can be done through the GET INFO pull down), c) you have less than 256 MB Built in Memory, d) a G3 processor with less than 400 MHz speed, AND (not OR) e) if you don't do a simple Clean System Reinstall once or twice a year. Do these things and even a MORON like myself has speed to burn and a freeze-free zone...
System 10 and beyond are built on the Linux shell and assuming (a big one) that software will be standardized and compatible, I seriously doubt from an engineering standpoint that upcoming Macs will be less stable.
Hey, e-mail me about doing html tags. I'm serious...no clue. Do you just pu .html at the end of a jpeg file name??? Hep me Hep me!
Where do you plug the keyboard in on this thing?
I agree...
If you're currently using a MAC then the next logical
step would be to step up to a Quarter-Pounder with
Cheeze. Hold the onions of course.
StAl ~ Eric's right...the days of single-platform software have long since come & gone, in fact there's only ONE program that I want (MetaSynth)that's not available on Windows. I can't speak for the comparative stability, since I don't own a Mac...but the days of "if you want to create art and/or music, you'd better get a Mac" have long passed...
Chat room is back up. Not sure why it stopped to begin with?
Not to beat a dead horse, but I’m gonna beat a dead horse. Remember the MAC vs. PC debate a week or so ago? Well, as I said before you can do just about anything with a PC you can do with a MAC, right? Had an interesting conversation with tHe jOker (a.k.a Rudy, a.k.a. Eric – the artist for this website) the other day. The conversation somehow rolled around to which platform he currently designs in. He said he now uses the PC. He prefers it to the MAC because the applications are MORE STABLE and every bit as powerful. This is from someone who used a MAC for YEARS. He says he can do (and does) everything he once did on the MAC platform. Flash, Shockwave, Quark, Illustrator, Photoshop, etc, etc, etc. The thing I found most interesting was his clam the PC was far more stable than the MAC.
Hmmm…
What is that silly saying again? Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way? You will be assimilated.
Thank you my Canadian friend. :-)
I was getting real tired of having to listen to the radio everywhere I went. Missed my CD's. Good song and it does indeed remind me of another song.
Mark In Boston: I echo LP. Thanks so much. Listening now. :-)
While on that Radio odyssey this past weekend, I got to hear Reelin' In the Years on the Radio. Made my day. Especaially after all I had to put up with, music wise. Those Steely guys really spoiled me..
JayDubz: You're so right about the baffling array of dysfunctional characters: Annie, Stan, Fred and all of these Bastards, Dude Rockin' the Suburbs, Lucretia, Slacker turned Evangelist, Cathy and the guy who didn't carry her when she needed it most, the guy who loses Lisa. The one that tops the "cake" is Sara: Zak and Sara has to be the most bizzare and imaginative story heard outside Zappa. Dude practices his guitar and wants to be part of the 80s hair-band scene (not your father's Orwellian 1984). His girlfriend's antannae are up and is living a Billiy Pilgrim world of scrambled futures of people she comes in contact with and visions of techno pop to the shock of friendly salesmen...
John McCrea can really be heard on... yes, Clas The Bridge of Fred Jones Part 2 - a modern day Eleanor Rigby?...
Worst album of the year - The Billy Joel classical album...He also has an album (1986 or so) called The Bridge that doesn't have a decent one in there (though he tries on Matter of Trust)...
Steviedan -- interesting exclusion of The Wall and The Final Cut. I'd say both have many redeeming features.
I take it by the thundering silence that few will make the NYC screening of Tribute?
LP ~ Cake frontman John McCrea sings harmony on "Fred Jones Part 2" from the new Ben Folds album...
i got the new "cake" cd over the weekend (shopping for other people) - anyone a fan? underrated band, imho, love their style
favorite doctor demento-like christmas song - cheech and chong's "santa and his old lady" - a classic!
santa is not a musician man -
i'm hip to that, man, he couldn't play anything.....
Blaise, Clas: Speaking of the Manchurian candidate...Yes, the halftime entertainment at soccer games in Kabul at Taliban Stadium consisted of serial executions. It will rightly take a lot of debriefing and time before these women trust again...
Supposedly, there will be a woman on the new Afghan coalition team...heard a clip coming into work where a comedienne (probably from SNL News quips "just who did she show her ankle to to get that job?"
Oh yeah - then regarding that pedestrian mover something like: "...this will provide a new and inventive means of getting run over by automobiles!"
Clas: Never fear. While there's some Pro-Tools on the CD, Ben Folds played drums in his first (guitar) band. Lots of Wetside drumming - I remember you came over to our side on your last TM offering (though the programmed stuff on '99 was pretty lively)! In fact, there's a pic of Folds at the skins on the back cover with his stupid face, the glasses, and the sticks...at least I think it's the back cover since...
My 9 year old daughter has confiscated Ben Folds' new one as of yesterday to go along with Gaucho and the Nightfly. I'm so proud - she hardly plays Britney Spears anymore!! Her Affinity for RTS says something as her still mostly unpolluted ears are the purist in the family. She could sing on-key from 12 months old - before she could walk or talk...we thought it was he music tape the first time...she's the only true creative, artistic one - at least she oughtta be since she daydreams constantly. Her schoolmates think she's an alien - which she is...She's playing bit roles in the local Troupe Christmas presentation which includes adults, high schoolers, and grade schoolers. The troupe leader is a talented and hypertrophic right-brainer who weaves some magic and can sing a little bit like Peabo Bryson crossed with Luther Vandross - really harmonizes well with a female lead. Most of the kids are pretentious left-brainers who are show-offs and memorize lines well. There are a few right-brainers along with the troupe leader who recognize here as of like mind and connect with her...while the troupe leader fusses at the left-brainers for overacting. Thanks to my daughter and Steely Dan, it's like shootin' fish in a barrel picking out the pretenders at 100 paces. Unfortunately, because of TV, movies, and the 60s more of these glamour-sucking dorks "make it" than should. I bet the true talent is found scattered around local theatre, and maybe some off-Broadway to occasionally non-Weber Broadway...just a left-brained Dad trying to understand...
blaise - thanks
boy what a song from neil
on the wings of a dove indeed
thanks
Tom
sounds like it's parody time coa
Blaise - good thoughts on the “Taliban” woman. It shows how hard it is to apply our western values on a completely different way of living. What's wrong and what's right?
C
One thing that strikes me as odd is that the women in Kabul, although apparently now liberated from oppression, still wear that powder blue veil. It goes deep, their fear of punishment or their deep seated faith, whichever the case. Ever seen that CNN documentary where a woman is shot in the head point blank on the soccer field? I still see it. It's quite a powerful image. These people have seen stuff like this on a regular basis and it does have a lasting psychological so we shouldn't expect them to shake it off so easily. Perhaps, that's it, then again maybe not. It's a theory. Maybe they're comfortable like that after all, who knows? Maybe the Taliban principles still have a hold of their soul, whatever happens.
Clas - I'm impressed. It's a small world after all.
Ange - Look at that. It's in there already, like magic. Ain't I your regular Harry Potter? ;-)
Ahh... (some) women and gossip... gotta love it. She might not be available for further comments, that one, unfortunately.
A few of you might remember this part of an old parody of mine:
"Hand a gun to my sons
I say shoot me if they come
Well I crossed Mollah Omar leaving Kandahar
Don't take me alive"
Man, forget Harry Potter, I'm a freaking psychic here. Where's my 25 000 000$?
Yep, "Caves of Tora Bora", "Cropdusting Paki"... yeah and "obviously you Don't Need Runways". It's all there, baby. Now where's my money, dammit?
(565) - Tom, here's the lyrics to it, as transcribed verbatim from the mp3:
"... a song just written, just recorded and we just got it at KFUNG (?) so a KFUNG exclusive. I'll stop talking about it and let you just listen to Let's Roll from Neil Young on KFUNG. No time for indecision Time is running out Noone has the answer Chorus Let's roll for freedom Chorus
(cell phone ringing)
I know I said I love you
I know you know it's true
I got to put the phone down
And do up without ado
One's standing in the aisleway
Two more at the door
We've giot to get inside there
Before they kill some more
The time is now
Let's roll
Time is running out
Let's roll
We've got to make a move
I hope that we're forgiven
For what we had to do
How this all got started
I'll never understand
Hope someone can fly this thing and
get us back to land
Let's roll (2)
But one thing is true
You've got to turn on evil
When it's coming after you
You gotta face it now
And when it tries to hide
You gotta go in after it
And never be denied
Let's roll for love
Going after Satan on the wings of a dove
Let's roll for justice
Let's roll for truth
Let's not let our children grow up fearful in their youth
Fade
More radio bla bla (too long)"
End
Now that's pretty much the extent of what I can do for now. Put those over Aeorsmith's Last Child and yes, there you go, roughly.
529 - LOL, if only Anita Pallenberg and Keith Richards had one of these dolls in the early seventies, then the teenage french wait staff in their Riviera digs would have been spared
548-549 first the good Dr of Mu and now Jay Dubz,
looks like I'll be picking up some Ben Folds One,
so mu how do you change the font size? do tell...
561 - blaise - more on the new Neil please... pretty please
558 Stevie - the new flame...
it's perfection and grace, it's the smile on my face
spent last night in an audience involved reading of the Messiah
too tricky for me to always keep up
her voice - purely angelic
543 blaise - George Forman's IMac grease removing micro surf and que
toodles of topsoil
wormy
going back a few days...
I heard a great version of Norwegian Wood yesterday bu the Buddy Guy / Rich big band.. very jazzy
Blaise - no, being the most Americanized country in Europe, Sweden has lots of Ben Folds-fans. I ordered the CD an hour ago. I will get it in a couple of days.
And now, while writing down; “I will get it in a couple of days” makes me wonder why I didn't go buy it in an ordinary wet-side-store so I could listen to the record tonite.
Probably because of the claustrophobic darkness and unpleasant weather and the long bridge* I have to cross to get down to down-town.
*not to be confused with the pre-chorus in “Bad Sneakers”, I never know if I am going sane or going insane when I cross bridges.
Did that make any sense to you?
See you!
C
Blaise: You found it? Any chance that it can make a stop in the Locker?
Steviedan: Yes, that is exactly it. But Jelly?
Managed to catch the Harry Potter movie. They did a great job at making the scenes and situations come to life, but little one and I were sad that they had to leave out at least 3/4 of the book. Doesn't bode well for the more involved other three books. Especially, the fourth. One suggestion, don't bother going if you didn't read it.
Chat, people have time to chat? Aaaak! :-)
So let me get this straight, stevee. You insist on being atevee here, yet you don't mind being "guest 7" in chat... guest 7, that's a beautiful name, isn't it?
And why do you take this personnally. You will never please everyone, buddie, get used to it. We happen to think the Fagen vocals are a defining element of the sound, one you can't really do without. Doesn't make you any less of a keyboard player, really.
Clas - No virus in there, I hope. Shoot. Jaydubs is, well... Jaydubs. And since most agree on the Album of the Year category, it'd be nice to read your take on it. Maybe we'll reach a rare consensus here.
It might be hard to get in Sweden w/o special order, me thinks.
Yes the more I listen to it, the more some passages stick. Yesterday it was the recurring piano riff in Ascent of Stan. This morning it's the Annie Waits chorus. That's a good sign. It means my heart is winning over my ever-reluctant brain on the matter. All fabulous...
Heard Let's Roll from Neil Young yesterday, thanks to a popular illegal swapping service, one Napster clone previously referenced here. It sounds like the Crazy Horse of old. Heavy guitars, those heavy organ riffs. It's laid back yet driving all at once in that Neil Young rocker way. It might mean a new grungie phase revisited in his case, if it's any indication. It's not so specific that it becomes gauche as in tasteless, as is often feared in such a case. Not bad AND Canajun.
Mu - Sorry, try again. Ransom still up for grabs.
Steeve - but you do agree with me? Do you really enjoy listening to Steely Damned or Dr Wu, Steely Dan music without Fagens voice? Be honest now, email me the answer if you're afraid of stepping on Peg's or Bob's or Pete's feet.
dr Mu/Stevie - Ben Fold, okay, now you've got me interested. But I am a little worried. Are there all drummachines and sequencing on the album? That's pretty boring isn't it? But I'll go buy it as soon I am out of here.
Blaise - watch out, email in the in-basket. And what? Jay Dubz, who is Jay Dubz?
C
pink, i meant through "the wall", or most of it anyways.
okay, here's an argument:
can a well written song function apart from a specific performance ?
some of you seem to suggest not (?????)
another argument for ken starr:
the rich get richer and the poor get shot at ?
hhmmmmmmdisCUSS ! or NOT !!!
belsai, i think you are being a bit tough on mr cruise. no johnny de(e)pp there but he does his own stunts. c'mon !
wormy, the new flame ? raw ? live wire ? eyes on fire ?
w1p, i think most folks here would already own enough floyd to render echoes dispensible. for me, meddle thru animals will do it.
angel, that was exactly the kind of thing i'm seeing. like the waffle, the feather, or the asterisk. i think a flaming jelly doughnut would be at least slightly more flattering...
mc, was it lions & tigers & bears, oh my ?
gina back to form and bad sneakers in da house. gina did you read my "sdaow" [insert flaming jelly doughnut patent pending] for the newest gary willis venture, "uncle moe's space ranch" ? i'm sure you were already aware, anyway. if not, become so.
have a week, y'all.
Jimbo: Amy - she is one mutha of a whistler on Cousin Dupree
Drat, drat, down be chat.
Dragon - I forgot to mention that after I had the boy cleaned up, my wife got home and started screaming. "Oh my Gawd", she exclaimed "the whole house smells like SHIT !!! WHAT DID YOU DO ?!?"
What did I DO ??? Thanks a lot Sweetheart (to be read with extreme sarcasm).
For the record, all of my "shit-attacks" are figurative.
OK, enough of that shit, or to quote one of my favorite movies, "Blazing Saddles", "... Nevermind that shit, here comes MONGO !!"
Steveedan
Hi Dragon -
my silence in chat last night had nothing to do with you. I had taken a phone call with a friend of mine when my 3 year old son came up to me and tapped me on the shoulder. I looked over my shoulder to look at him and found him totally buck naked. He is in that stage where he removes his diaper. My first thought (let's call it what it really is ... fear !) was that he had peed somewhere and so I had to go on a search and distroy mission - in my socks. I terminated my phone call swiftly to the sound of extreme laughing on the other end when I relayed my observation.
As for the search and destroy mission, well ... it was a bit worse than I first expected. It was poop. Yep. Poop. Thank God it was left in the bathroom, and miraculously enough, it was inside the stripped off diaper. So it was immediately BATH TIME for the boy.
By the time I finished bathing the boy, and drying him off, and clothing him for sleep, I staggered back to the computer to find that I WAS STILL LOGGED ON TO CHAT! I saw that you finally gave up on me (good idea).
This was a long story to say ... that it had nothing to do with you. But it had to do with doo doo.
And now Clas (why do I put him after doo doo? - I'll let him chew on that for a while) -- Clas - you wrote: "
Yeah, ?Buddy Greco doing 'Born to be Wild'?. That pretty much sums up what I think of Steely Dan cover bands."
I got your message. You don't think much of Steely Dan cover bands. Alright then -- no more invitations for you. You and your lear jet can stay away if you like. It's OK by me. By the way, you wrote that you first played in bands in 1947 (or something like that). If this means that you were at least 10 when you played in these bands back then, you might be over 65 years old. Does that make you the "Old Grand-Dad of the Guest Book"?
Aye? Aye ???
Have a great week everyone.
Steveedan
To Z- On your post last night you mentioned something about Donald having a stepdaughter who sings. Now I know he has a stepson with Libby Titus.
Is she Libby's biological daughter. If so, what info do you have on her?
Jimbo
(damn glad the Steelers whipped the Jets)
StAl -- Problems with banyantreenet chat room.
I doubt that that's the Gary Katz of Steely Dan fame but check this poster out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1492987859
looks like something JDubz or Q might really get into....Steely Dan Concert Poster done by Greatful Dead poster artist Michael Everett. A beautiful poster!
start the last 60 hour work week of the year @ 5am tomorrow morning.....catch up will all you good folks Wednesday.
MC
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1495085887
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1495085887
Excellent structural analysis there, Dr! I have to echo the opinions of Dr. Mu & Blaise...the new Folds album is a masterpiece, and is definitely the BEST album of '01. I've was always fascinated by the multi-instrumentalists ~ Brian Jones/John Mayall/Ian(s) Underwood, McDonald & Anderson/Todd Rundgren/Paul McCartney/Prince...and Folds has joined these ranks with "Rockin' the Suburbs." The guy is just a natural musician!
The songwriting is superb...poignant (and quite humorous!) stories about Dan-esque characters & dysfunctional relationships, ending with the haunting coda, "Luckiest" ~ one of the best love songs (IMHO) ever written. The music gives obvious nods to the Beatles, Beach Boys, Elton John/Billy Joel & even Joni, and the production/arrangements are pure George Martin/Brian Wilson. The instrumentation is all over the map, from the ancient Roland Compurhythms ("Annie Waits") to Spector-esque timpanis, ARP 2600s to celli...it all works ~ and the man sounds like a band!
This album makes me smile!
§: When the iMac was conceive, transluscent colored plastic that was hard, durable, somewhat ductile/resilient, and strong simply did not exist yet. Apple invented those plastics. Other companies now purchase or copy the design.
I put on Ben Folds yesterday after setting it down for a month to test for freshness. Passed with flying colors. It sounds familiar and fresh at the same time. Tight and spontaneous. Could have recorded anytime tin the past 40 years...that's why I predict it will be a teimeless opus. Great tight, layered production with lots of little tricks and good spacing...It could use Eliot Scheiner for even clearer sound but...my fave of 2001 (another overall crappy year for music) with One Nil second (look for April release in the States)
To criticize the title track - specifically the lyrics for not wearing wee, IMO is to miss the point of the song and the album. The title track is clearly a Weird Al-type spoof at angry white boy music over the past 20 years, especially now. As with Weird Al or Ray Stevens the impact lessens with familiarity. The title track bemoans the current state of music while the rest of the tracks tell us to follow our own music and strive to make the art live. The performance on the title track is tight as on the rest of the album. Ben Folds' is one heck of a one man band (except for the cello on Fred Jones Part II and one of the guitars on the title track).
The lyrical melodies and song structures are an attraction. Every song has a nice intro and an Ending - NO FADEOUTS! There are also twists and turns to keep the listener interested with Bens' penchant for loads of hooks and themes...
Structures (have fun Stevie, Stevee, Clas):
Annie Waits:
intro A A B (almost like a bridge) C (chorus) D(tag)
A A B C D
Zak and Sara:
nice intro - Billy Joel with chops
A A' B C (chorus)
A A' B C D (bridge ...asshole)
A A' B C repeat and end
Still Fighting It:
A A B C+D (chorus) E (tag)
A A B C+D E F(semi-bridge) A repeat
A B C D E
Gone:
intro A A B (chorus)
A A B C (one helluva bridge)
A A B
Fred Jones Part2
intro A A' A B C (chorus)
A A' A B C D (nice little bridge) into short elegant piano solo over A
A A' A B C C
Ascent of Stan
intro A A B (tag) C+D (chorus)
A A B C+D
solo over A then Brian Wilson vocals harmonies over A
C+D
Losing Lisa:
intro (check out harpsichord to pianoseparated by thunderclap drum/bass repeat then followed McCartney-like bass) A A B (bridge-like) C C (chorus)
A A B C C
piano solo over C
CC
Carrying Cathy:
intro A A B (chorus)
A A B
C (bridge) B start solo B'
A A B
Not the Same:
A A B A A B B+B (chorus) C (sort of a bridge)
A A B A B A B C
B+B C C and outtro over A
Rockin' the Suburbs:
A A B (chorus)
A A B
C (semirap) D
E (rap over A) F
B B (you think it's going to fade) ascending scratch into G (change of pace - repeat and collapse)
Fired:
Randy Newman-like intro A A B B C (chorus)
intro A A B B C solo over A
B B C and to intro - muthafucka ooooooohhhhhh
Luckiest
intro A A' B C D (chorus)
A A' B C D
E (bridge - variation of B)
A A' B C D outtro and end
Does Ben Folds' voice remind you more of
a) David Gates on vitamins
b) Gary Lewis without the tone deafness
or
c) Stephen Bishop with better phrasing
an appealing if thin white boy voice without pretending to be a blues or R&B star...
Blaise....*lol*....no harm, no foul....I missed that one!
Dano....really??? I think Hoffman deserved it....great part....Cruise's "angry young man" must be one of the most done to death roles of all time....he was adequate in it but that was all.....for me anyway.
re: acid....probably the most mind expanding experience of my life.....also one of the most fucked up experiences of my life....I probably wouldn't trade the experiences for anything but I wouldn't ever do it again....again, that's just me.
posted a photo of Deacon Blues, one of our Maine Coon cats, on a photography forum I frequent and struck up a Steely Dan thread there....go figure.
lp , have you heard Paul Wellers new album ?he does acoustic versions of all his fav songs . It is the Bus i ness.
? Thanks for that Winmx info sound as a bell? Paul Carrick touring with Supertramp in UK next year. His new album is a touch of old songs G"roovin" was a hit for the Young Rascals. Summer of 67 Peace love acid etc etc. Great Track and remember my older brothers hoofin it on vinyl when I was a wee laddie.
t , whats happenin bigman?? you ok mate.
Wormster , seen the Faces so many times and always lashed up ?? The band I mean ?? not me?? Ronnie Lane was my Fav. Real Top Guy.
Personally Midnite I think TC should have got the Oscar for Rain Man and not Hoffman , to play a straight guy against Hoffmans easy part was excellent acting in my humble opinion.
TWM , I was in the lowlands for the weekend , shit i know there Scots but dont they speak wierd down there mate?? not at all like us Glaesga bhoys.
Leggin it as we speak....Regards Dano
Cruiser - Gotcha! re: Harrison's ashes, post #414. We're even steven, buddie. No harm, no foul. lol
just got through watching a Grover Washington Jr. concert filmed in 1981 in Philly. Good show all around with an all star line-up. The Steve Gadd solo alone was worth the $9.99 I paid for the laserdisc.
Grover Washington Jr. - saxes
Richard Tee - synth
Paul Griffin - rhodes
Steve Gadd - drums
Ralph McDonald - percussion
Eric Gale - guitar
Anthony Jackson - bass
Zach Sanders - vocals on "Just The Two Of Us"
21 years ago yesterday since we lost John Lennon.....George Harrison's ashes sprinkled in the Ganges this week....All Things Must Pass.
ange - re: Segway, ain't no drag. It's official, cops in Boston to try it out. What's next, dog catchers? ;-)
Thanks Cruiser (Cruise, Cruz... I get it). Nice morning read there. As they say, "when in doubt, play the blues..."
Again, support intelligent pop songwriting, everyone and perhaps help save it from extinction? Wrap up that Folds, y'all.
Now going offline. You know... off to church and all that... do dee doo.
P.S. Ever noticed George Foreman's "Lean, Mean, Grilling Machine" now comes in the exact same color schemes as the IMac? Easy mistake to make...
nice article on a great blues label.
last 60 hour work week of the year coming up....y'all have a good one.
MC
Stalking, sniffing out the next songwriting trend.
Forgot to close the italics tag. Good thing it wasn't the bold or font size ones, eh? pfft
Test.
One more week of this godamn tour to go
Anything been happening since the end of August ??
Hey - this guestbook looks a bit different - has somebody been on acid ??
StAl - I cannot resist, you're saying;
“It is my theory that the world would be a much kinder place if everyone dropped acid at least once in their lives.”
When I was young, a doctor once asked me if I ever had dropped acid. I said no, which was, and still is, true.
He said “Good, don't do that, you would never come back.”
Is that what you had in mind? Me never coming back if I dropped acid?
C
GIIIIIINA! Haben sie eines echten name oder was? Du also bist eines underschön mädchen mit das Ober bitte sahlen! Zwo bier, schängen in daas sängen, så klart!
Dit guestbook is eigenlijk de enige echte? Jawohl, the other ones are just covers.
Het lukt? You bet (that's “hot smell” in Swedish).
C
aloha CLAS!!!
smoooch, G.
Hey Anneke! Ligt er ook nog aan hoe oud of jong je bent, ik ben twee jaartjes van vier kruisjes verwijderd en maakte kennis met Steely Dan toen ik 13 was, mn vriendjes en vriendinnetjes van school zaten in totaal andere sferen. Er zijn wel meer Nederlandse fans die wellicht in de yahoo club hun weg vinden, maar dit guestbook is eigenlijk de enige echte, ook berucht en als buitenlander zoals wij zijn niet altijd gemakkelijk om ertussen te komen ... maar het lukt toch en dat is hartstikke leuk!
Er wordt niet alleen over de band gesproken, ook veel andere zaken en humor en soms scheldpartijen, daar groei je vanzelf in, hoor!
Ik ga weer in een taal schrijven die de anderen kunnen lezen .. hoop je hier nog heel vaak te lezen, doei!!
Sorry if i got carried away in my enthusiasm for another dutch girl around this Sign In Stranger Block ...
Aloha Blaise, once a new situation has become somewhat you're able to live with, former habits dawn with the speed of celestial light and the SD itch is around always, no matter how divers the track of life can be .. like hearing Boddhisatva on midnight radio, absurdity at its highest from where i stand especially regarding that particular song, i have never ever heard that one on dutch or belgian radio before ...
I've received a book to review for JAZZ NOW MAGAZINE and it's about ALL-GIRL BANDS OF THE 1940S ... written by Sherrie Tucker, an assistant Professor Woman's Studies at Hobart/William Smith, she has been active in Smithsonian Jazz History Programs and even was a jazz radio announcer in San Franscisco. The book, SWING SHIFT has wonderful photographs of beautiful women and i bet Donald Fagen would have loved to be in the audience when some of those women's bands were having the times of their lives ... i get shivers all over just talking about it now ...
and i haven't started reading the book yet!!!!!!!!!
off now, wait .. maybe this still works for me ..
Banyan Tree Back to Windoze Mode While I Fell For Mac Mode Bow,
G.
Anneke - gutentag, sie haben eines miracolososes name mädchen.
---
Blaise - no, it's a bridge I'm afraid. And you're saying;
“Where's The Stranger, Clas? He was telling us what's what like a month ago, saying so and so should leave, etc...
Where's your Messiah now?”
Yeah, he also said
“...and what is more American than Steely Dan...”
and “...they created their great music inspired from our folkmusic, the Blues...” (OUR folkmusic, the BLUES!)
Which meant that during “the War” foreigners like you, Gina and me, wasn't allowed to post on this board. I don't know if he also meant that we couldn't play our Steely Dan records at home. What do you think?
And where the Messiah is right now? I don't know Blaise. Honestly I think he's ill. I feel sorry for him and his wife.
---
And apropos cover-bands, I am reading some interesting words from Donald Fagen, I found them in the Steely Dan songbook for guitar:
“...and although we weren't writing for instrumental performers - we were writing for MY VOICE*... I think our background, because it comes mostly out of arranging and jazz, made us lean towards melodies that had that kind of structure - they're more chordally situated. When I hear the occasional cover, I almost always experience what I've come to think as the Bill Murray Effect - i.e., Buddy Greco doing “Born to be Wild”.
(Donald Fagen, 1996)
* my capitals.
Yeah, “Buddy Greco doing 'Born to be Wild'”. That pretty much sums up what I think of Steely Dan cover bands.
C
Happy Chanukah!
Guest 7 -- sorry I wasn't being a better conversationalist in chat earlier. As you brought up "Can't Buy a Thrill" I have someone come in and start talking to me about wrapping paper and such. Aside from that I don't have my SD CDs available at this locale so I don't have a reminder and I learned SD's catalouge from Citizen SD not by album. Have patience with me, I can come up with something. Such as I usually skip "Do It Again" while playing "Can't Buy A Thrill" section of Citizen SD but always turn it up if it's on the radio. Why, I've heard it too many times on the radio and not heard enough of other SD songs.
Becker & Fagen, never met them but they've written some pretty cool songs.
I hope that hard boiled egg was good or at least a good excuse.
Steveedan -- What's the matter? Cat got your keyboard? Go see Mr. Wise, ask to see BTOOT, watch those two sloppy edits (done when I was too tired, hould have stuck with the original edits I had). I'm sorry if I offended you last night.
Dano -- My email is having temporary problems, will try to reach you via another email.
Dragon
That's convulses Bill.
I dunno, I thought I posted this about ten hours ago but I guess i fucked up. Anyway-
Some SD info-
I'm presently gigging with a monster jazz bass player (upright and electric-in addition to french horn!)who recently lost a two year steady jazz gig at a joint in Manhattan which DF used to frequent regularly, along with his family. He said DF was very quiet, but supportive of the band, giving them thumbs up when he dug something and complimenting them before he left. DF's stepdaughter, who's very easy on the eyes and a talented singer, was supposed to sit in with the band, but didn't for some reason. He said she tours a lot with Levon Helm. It's probably a good thing I wasn't on that gig because I know at some point I would've embarrassed everyone concerned with my jazz arrangements of "Aja", "Black
Cow", "Gaucho", and "Babylon Sisters".
Speaking of BS, the kids played the shit out of the first half of my concert band arrangement of it yesterday and I got so excited I told them they were playing the only concert band arrangement of BS and that I was posting about them here to SD fans. They got excited and asked me to mention their names here! I truly can't tell anymore if it was the deludin kicking in or it really was that good, but there's still the last half to go, and that includes that wicked 8th note triplet horn line and my own jazz soli for the brass and winds. I may have to do some editing, the concert is only six school days away...
Ken,
So what your saying is;
* The rich get away with everything/anything.
* The Powerful get away with everything/anything.
* The Middle class and poor get away with nothing.
Moral of the story: Get Rich. Get Power. Don't wait.
Correct?
Where am I? I'm waiting for a call from my republican buddies to investigate the biggest financial scandal to hit this country in many, many years. As that good Texas columnist Molly Ivins wrote recently about Enron and CEO Ken Lay, Bush's biggest fund raiser;
"If you want to know what this story is about, pretend Bill Clinton is still president.
Pretend Clinton's long-time, all-time biggest campaign contributor, a guy for whom Clinton has carried water for over the years, a guy with unparalleled "access," a shaper of policy, a man with a veto on regulatory appointments affecting his business, with connections at every level of the administration, a political fixer beyond the wildest dreams of James Riady -- imagine that this guy's worldwide empire has tumbled into bankruptcy in just three months amid cascading reports of lies, monumental accounting errors, evasions, iffy financial statements, insider deals, a board of directors rife with conflicts of interest, top executives bailing out with millions while regular employees see their life savings shrink to nothing -- imagine all this back in the day of Bill Clinton.
Holy moley, we'd have four congressional investigations, three special prosecutors, two impeachment inquiries and a partridge in a pear tree by now. The Republicans would all be drumming their heels on the floor in full tantrum."
I could plan on at least 3 years of work investigating this if the damn republicans weren't in office. It's really hard for us to pursue our own even if this scandal makes Whitewater look like the nothing that it was. But being the hypocrites that we are and the fact that so many of our pals are on the board including Sen. Phil Graham's wife, we will quietly sweep this under the rug, blame OBL and Bill Clinton for everything that goes wrong and hope the sheep don't notice. I'm waiting for the call...
501 -blaise - yes Penelope and TOm don't do it for me
although the gal was striking in the All the...horses
500 ompa loompa lopiti do
I've got another top ten for you
495 - Dano, hi,
never heard Stereophonics doing the Faces
Faces very underrated in my opinion
then again rod sold out
Love will tear us apart - what a breath of fresh air
direct response to C&T's "Love will keep us together"
thanks Mr Curtis
new flame enjoyed my TaN & others tape,
good thing we arrived right before Cousin Dupree
that one lacks subtlety
still very little synth on dan records till nightfly
that's a good thing
wormy
over and out
mind on applesauce mode
Hey SD'ers,
Hmmm..., I seem to recall saying the something like this
a while back. "MLB Baseball is unfair...needs a salary
cap...Don't be suprised to see Jason Giambi in a Yankees
uniform next year." Oh well, the prophecy has come to
pass in the form of a $128 Million Dollar 7 year contract.
My crystal ball says, "It is decidedly so".
Anyway, I've decided what I want for Christmas, or even
Chanukkah or Qwanza for that matter... It's PAGE LANGTON
from the Bodyshaping show. That's right, Page Langton.
Page Langton absolutely rocks so if you really want to
make Mr.Bill extremely happy this holiday season then
simply giftwrap Page Langton and send her along first
class ok? I promise not to open my gift until Christmas
Day...if I can wait that long...which i sincerely doubt :)
Ken Starry Eyes: I'm far too busy going to my daughter's "acting" debut and watching Bud Selig's Wormtongue to Steinbrenner's Saruman on CSPAN. But where are you??...all I see is Conyers nodding passively "OK, OK,...well my people tell me otherwise and can I see you otside when we're done." Who's there to defend the public??...Did you mistake Tora Bora for Bora Bora? Who wants to start a pool outlining the date and manner of demise for Geraldo?
Rep µ: So...Mr. Selig. You are saying we should continue to provide major league baseball and exemption to the anti-trust act because the owner's are too incompetent to generate a profit? Are you saying we should concentrate on Bill Gates and other revenue and job generating enterprises??
Darth Selig: Yep, that pretty much sums it up.
Rep. µ: Are you saying that we must feel sorry for an enterprise that hijacks cities into building and their taxpayers extravagant stadiums and luxury boxes while de poor people sleeping with de shade on de light? If I build even a Lowe's Lumber, I the business owner have to pay for it!
Darth Selig: Well, you see...the cities owe much of their asthetic beauty to...
Rep µ: Just what the fuck are the Brewers doing in the National League, anyway? Shouldn't they go back to being a minor league team in Seattle again?
Darth Selig: but Milwaukee has just agreed to build a new brewery and bowling alley next to my office there...
Rep µ: How is it that a Monopoly loses, or claims to lose, a half a billiion bucks when they don't pay for their physical plant nad they have a contract for billiions with a network that doesn't show the games anyway because their too fucking boring? Do you think it's ...Monopoly money? I have just been handed a note that an aggregate off 22 of the owners are the majority stockholders of Enron? Is there a coincidence that their stock went from $95 to $0.68?
Sgt. Selig: I knoowww nooooothinnnnnnnngggg!, herr kommmedant.
Rep µ: Is it because you PAY THE PLAYERS TOO MUCH FUCKING MONEY and KEEP MR. STARR ON RETAINER while he surfs salon.com all day?!! ...and I'm wondering why Myr. Ventura on your left has not given you a pile driver yet?! One last thing: isn't it obvious now that only pre-season ball belongs in Florida?
WormSelig then leaps up and stabs Steinbrenner in the back who then shrivels in a clound of grey sizzle and smoke...
Hi there!
I want to thank you all for your reactions on my question!
Now I know where to go to for answers!
Have a nice weekend!
Gina, leuk te weten dat ik niet de enige Nederlandse Steely Dan fan ben!
Als ik hier vertel dat mijn favoriete groep Steely Dan is, zeggen de mensen : "Steely wie? Nooit van gehoord!"
Groetjes!
Anneke
521 -- sorry, I screwed up the link -- use this one instead
Dear NEW YORK GBers -- "Tribute" -- a documentary on tribute bands -- is coming to New York this Wednesday for a free screening! Although the film does not mention Which One's Pink? or The Steely Damned, its a very funny film telling the very human stories of fans, some of whom happen to be in tribute bands, who refuse to give up their passion for music (I know that the people receiving this fall into that category). The film focuses on five tribute bands -- Sheer Heart Attack, a Queen tribute from Los Angeles, The Missing Links, a Monkees tribute from Los Angeles, Larger than Life, a KISS tribute from Modesto, Bloodstone, a Judas Priest tribute from Albany, and Escape, a Journey tribute from Los Angeles. Even if you hate the music these bands pay tribute to, the stories are humorous and universal speaking to interband warfare, breakups, auditioning prospective band members, playing the music "like the record" etc. So, if you are interested, the information on the screening is reproduced below
TRIBUTE will screen in New York this Wednesday, December 12, 2001, and there are a small number of seats available to the public. This will be the first opportunity for East Coast TRIBUTE fans to get a sneak peek! TRIBUTE at the Disney Screening Room Wed., Dec. 12th, at 1 PM (...what's better than popcorn for lunch?!) 500 Park Ave., Lobby Level (Midtown -- Park Ave. & 59th St.) Admission is free, but you must RSVP by email with your name and a daytime phone number to kris@tributethemovie.com
Kris and Rich
http://www.tributethemovie.com (this is linked as my "homepage" above)
Funny u thing said;
"Indeed, CNN has become the Celebrity News Network. Here's some more IRONY: sometimes FoxNews is criticized as right wing leaning and CNN left wing leaning, yet CNN has been a veritable Bush administration mouthpiece and FoxNews has Geraldo drawing sniper fire near Tora Bora. CNN has made Donald Rumsfeld a star - the curmudgeon is funny - did you see the SNL skit? Hilarious..."
First, your statement about CNN being a bush mouthpiece was taken directly from Bill O'Really on his all spin show. At least give credit where credit is due. Second, CNN has indeed been the network the pResident uses to float his policies. The administration already has Faux News (We dictate, You obey) and their veiwers blindly following as conservative sheep and don't need to have their views reinforced because Faux does it every minute of every day. Geraldo took the big bucks and wasn't on CNN. By using CNN, which by the way is run by very conservative corporate owners (as are all the networks) now that Ted Turner is out, the administration gets to say they are using the so-called "liberal" media fairly and O'Really gets to spin it that way.
CNN is now the Conservative News Network because they and almost all of the media are afraid to stand up and say what they really think for fear of being shut out or being labled as subversives or even traitors. As we slowly slide into a dictatorship (bush's true desire, see religiously insane John Ashcroft), the only promise he kept was that he was going to turn the economy around. I'm sure all the laid off workers are happy that he kept that one. My only question is will the usurper and his minions allow elections in 2002 & 2004 or will a state of emergency be declared suspending the elections.
Hey St. Al, I think Syd also suffered from "Mandrax" abuse. Oh, and Erin Moran indeed was Joanie.
Anybody pick up Echoes, the very best of Pink Floyd?
Now's the time, the time is now, on my way. Tones, why not e-mail with New George's number? The worst thing that happens is that they don't care. As for Big Bang Beat, I've been friends with several members for more than 15 years. On my birthday about 13 years ago, they let me sing "Wild Thing" with the band at Club Can't Tell in Sacramento. I also was in one of their videos filmed at the Great American Music Hall (with Henry Kaiser sitting in on guitar) They still play, but they focus on "corporate gigs" Occasionally, they play down in Newark or at race tracks in free municipal gigs. One of the singers, Keta Bill, is (or was) married to Joel Selvin. http://www.bigbangbeat.com "I'm a rambler and gambler and a sweet talkin ladies man who loves his lovin, but not like I love my freedom"
This is indeed a great landmark for mankind. Six hundred years ago this very week, Olaf Qven, a printer from Stockholm, put into place the very first printed question mark. Previously, readers of the Indo-European languages had to rely on the sense and context of the sentence to know whether they were reading an enquiry or not.
In honour my fav top 5 SD questions
5, Are they really that miserable?
4, What funny cloths?
3, when are they touring again?
2, what awards?
1, when's the new one out?
Ohh & Blaise.. hibernating ?
StAl: Mantra?
Duncan: It is my theory that the world would be a much kinder place if everyone dropped acid at least once in their lives. The mantra preached for years by the likes of Leary and Kesey. I truly believe this, although there are the usual qualifiers and excpetions. For one -- a kinder world with a few more Syd Barretts running around...
§: I saw that ad on CNN 2 days ago...there was something oddly familiar about the drummer...will check out next time. Indeed, CNN has become the Celebrity News Network. Here's some more IRONY: sometimes FoxNews is criticized as right wing leaning and CNN left wing leaning, yet CNN has been a veritable Bush administration mouthpiece and FoxNews has Geraldo drawing sniper fire near Tora Bora. CNN has made Donald Rumsfeld a star - the curmudgeon is funny - did you see the SNL skit? Hilarious...
steviedan....Keef's been embalmed since the late 60's....I hear he's going to star in The Mummy III.
Blaise&angel....all this subversive Doonsbury stuff has me wanting to watch The Manchurian Cantidate again....Great movie with some nice Steely tie ins.....made me realize Frankie could actually act.
re: Tom Cruise & Penelope Cruz....never cared much for Tom....a Paul Newman wannabe with very little talent.....thought Penelope was pretty from the print ads but when I saw her in Blow I realized how unattractive she really is.....Nicole is so much classier, not to mention she's magically babelicious.
finally getting some much needed rain here in southside VA.....a nice change.
(512) Blaise: I rest my case. Leave it to Doonesbury to be even more Steelyish, after I mention it. :-)
(509) steviedan: So, now we ask Gary Trudeau if he can draw you a flaming donut, a la the "smoking waffle" he used to do for Clinton?
Oh angel, guaranteed...
Speaking of Purdie, there's a commercial for Advil featuring a jazz trio of piano, upright bass and drums and I think the man himself is on the skins. They done hire the Hitmaker. Synopsis: The female piano player is suffering from arthritis pains in her hands but then she pops an advil and she can fly again. Bernie is happy about the newfound groove and flashes a "right on" smile. Anyone else caught that? It's on regular spin on CNN, I think. Waiting for confirmation.
So first Skunk and now Purdie... a quiet amphibian assault on CNN?
Clas - Pre-chorus, man. I am NOT crazy. Ask Jaydubs. But in this case, let's call it the passageway to Radio City, a pedestrian bridge of sorts, why not?
Gina - "First she's way gone and then she comes back..." Now what did you say to anneke about us in Dutch again? Nothing bad, I hope.
stevie - I knew I was not the only one to feel that way. Impossible. If they hadn't exploited their own glorious pasts ad nauseam like they did, I would have kept my undying respect for the Beatles. But they did and oh so shamelessly, eh? I think once they become billionaires, their credibility as fundraisers for anything takes a seroius beating. I should give? Why don't YOU give something other than a promotional performance for your next record?
And another thing, think about it, Tom Cruise and Penelope Cruz are not objectively good actors and neither are even beautiful people. We're just being brainwashed into believing that they are, through constant media reinforcement. Take a good look. urgh But I disgress...
Speaking of brainwash, John Walker, the product of liberal upbringing? His folks agreed with his embrace of Islam and encouraged it. They let the kid fly oversees to live with the Taliban and guess what happened... these al Qaeda people must have been in just as much shock as we were when they came across that young yankee in their ranks. So they sent him to the battle frontlines, first against the Indians, then the Americans and opposition Forces. The guy divorced himself from the Western World and its values, supports the 9-11 attacks and is now suspected by some to have had a key role in the prison uprising stunt in Mazar e-Sharif. Odd...
Toodles
Howdy Steviedan, always a pleasure to clean up after you :-))
T-tonez, i's been wondering if Caldera made it safely ..
Stranger, i saw Jane Monheit in Germany a few months back and although i loved her voice and the songs and the musicians, i couldn't help but wonder what miss Monheit would be capable of if she unleashed her youthful self and spice it up some. She is a bad dresser, making her look way too old for like you said, she is only 24 .. In a way she does sound like a copy-cat, a real good one, let there be no mistake ... it does tend to be a bit boring here and there ... i feel she is in control too much, playing t very very safe.
So i guess i am waiting for the lioness in her to awake, right?
Hoi Anneke, mag ik je als mede nederlandse een hart onder de riem steken nu je deze website gevonde hebt? ik ben er nu een tijdje niet geweest maar heb hier ontstellend veel plezier gekend en nieuwe vrienden gemaakt.
Plus alle informatie over Steely Dan niet te vergeten, natuurlijk ...
Tot lezens!
An american singer, Zan Gardner was here, she performs in ~Belgium and she was here in Maastricht. She stayed at my friend's place and so i spent some time with her. She didn't start singing until she was 40, but knows how to pick the songs and the musicians. If you like, check out her website and the CD .. the bassplayer, Chico Huff is WAY WAY COOL ... their rendition of As Time Goes By is phenomenal ... see the difference .. Zan and Jane .. all a matter fo taste as well i guess ..
Anyway, Zan being this no-nonsense kind of person is very down to earth about stuff, like meeting people and musicians as well. At one point, she met Bernard Purdie because he wanted to meet her, he had heard of her. So she said, okay and had lunch with him. She liked him immediately for they both ordered the same thing for lunch .. Did she forget to tell what that was :-)
The way Zan phrases is special, she tells the stories and not just sings the songs .. the music is not just to accompany the singer, the music itself is very vibrant and powerful.
You can find her www.zangardner.com
Okay, so out of here, have a nice weekend,
Gina
yeah, the rake on my yard. got the c-tree up, as well. productive as a mofo.
belsai, be assured that i would never ignore YOUR contributions. say it, b. good point about beatles and dan as peers. matter of fact, i think sd kick some l/mc ass any day of the week. one correction though, keith richard will outlive ringo, along with the rest of us.
angel, a DOONESBURY-style GRAPHIC ! completely unintentionally, you've got me reeling...
tones ? "f-ine lady"
so st al, i seeeeee and of course, that figures.
coincidentally, "meshuggah" is ALSO the name of a phenomenal swedish metal band. i heard a cut of these guys and it sounded so inventive and tight despite the "projectile vomiting vocal style" that i had to pick up a disc. i mean, these dudes sounded like they spent 24 hours a day practicing in a small storage space. so i get the cd "destroy erase improve" and i open the liner notes. i begin to bang head as i read their "influences" section. first name dropped:
steely dan
... followed by allan holdsworth etc and you get the picture. not for the faint at heart and they don't sound like steely dan really but somehow, the vibe was apparent.
peaceout back to mothership
stee-bee
The Nightfly
Two Against Nature (a duet with my housemate)
...
W1P - hey there! Ramble on brother... I understood and share your vague-osity, and maybe for the same reasons if Duncan surmised correctly. Nope, I've never heard of The Meadows, but that now defunct airfield was called Hamilton. Erin Moran? Did she play Joanie on Happy Days? (lp - a little help over here...) That night club, now also defunct, (not to be confused with "de funk", which is what steviedan has been bumpin' to) was called Uncle Charley's. Positively is now just Fourth Street Tavern, and New Georges is still there, though Big Bang Beat beats no more... But hey! Georges would be a great place for you guys to play some night... I think on a weekend you guys could draw pretty good too. Let me know if you want the number...
Daaaaaanooooooo - s'up my friend?
St. Al - Speaking of the Airplane, last night on the "Making of the Charlie Brown Christmas" special, they interviewed the now-grown kids who did the voices for the Christmas special. They said that during the voice-over sessions for the special that the Airplane happened to be recording next door, and the the band came over and got *their* autographs. I thought that was pretty cool.
Now how about the Dan covering a Vince Guaraldi song...?
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More songs I could have learned while the power was out:
Black Friday (though it was Saturday)
Reelin' in the Dark
Gaslighting (for) Abbie
Night by Night
Caves of Lagunitas
and...
Reach Out in the Darkness
Lights Out (by the Angry Samoans {lp?}, who I have to mention 'cause they're friends of mine...)
Power to the People
yadda x 3...
"I think it so groovy now, that people are finally gettin' together..."
t-oast
WIP you're rambling there...
Kids let that be a lesson to you all Dont do drugs.
a friend reminded me tonight (phil l) of how he crapped in a wastepaper bin next to his bed (sofa) he still to this day thinks it was the right decision given the circumstances (who ate all the speed... Phil ate all the speed)
lol
only crack left to try then i can lecture
(fingers crossed)
db
Hey tones, I went to college at Sacramento State University and there were tons of Marinites who went with me. Ever hear of a bar called The Meadows? It was a dive on the outskirts of the Air Force Base up by Novato (the name escapes me for the time being) and had a legendary bartender named "Fred" who used to close up by shouting "boys and girls its two, now pair up and go screw" It was the place that I saw the 1980 Olympic hockey victory over the Soviet Union. Also saw Erin Moran one night at that Marin Club where Huey Lewis filmed one of his videos (can I be any more vague?) Cocktails at Positively Fourth Street in San Rafael. Big Bang Beat at New Georges. What a fun place!
Darth say's to luke on evening ''I know what you're getting this christmas''
Luke say's how can you possibly know what i'm getting for christmas.
Darth say's luke i felt you're presents
Boom Boom
db
Dano nice to here from you again...............
Good news Handbags & Gladrags poised @ no 2 this weekend, looks like you can't keep a good song down after all.
I've been hereing the origional Chris Farlowe alot on the radio lately rate it above Rod the Mod's version now.
I'm just glad that after all these years a new generation finally gets to here a great version of a classic song.
I wonder if SD covers will ever be in vouge & by whom & when.
Still can't beat the sound of SD.
Found a new radio knob in the van tonight ( should i say just noticed nob)
Pressed it & the radio went quiet for a few seconds...
said.. LOC
& then i heard about 5 seconds of Rikki Don't loose that number.
after 3 more seconds it said LOC & changed to another station.
I pressed ''new'' button and again it said LOC but went somewhere else.. radio local 104.5 fm listeners i think it was.
the most surreal thing that has happened to me for well dayz.
LP all my planning days are over ..nothing more to tell really.
Where's Anneka's test that's what i'm thinking.
NYBILL again the jury's out met him in chat the other morning seemed quiet normal until i mentioned my near leather trouser purchase.
great weekend everybody..
another week gone already the 7th
db
( heard John's beautiful boy on the way back from the chinese tonight''life is what happens while your busy making plans'' christ nearly crashed the van, heard it a million times tonight though...ohh boy)
Mental note Buy some flowers for Linda tomorrow
post #492 looks like the areola of a black woman from Chernobyl
St. Al: How about Meshugeh ahf toit!
Does anyone else on this board think NYBill is a little Meshugeh [proper yiddish spelling]?
Stevie: Dude, ever tried to sleep under the influence of windowpane or some good blotter?
Nice to have our Internet connection back at work. Now I can go back to screwing off...
StAl
Blaise: I meant to post this message 2 days ago. Have you been reading Doonesberry this week? The one 2 days ago, especially rang a Steely Bell with me.
(475) steviedan: You like my idea! A flaming donut you say.... That would be quite a wake up picture, at that time of the morning. Email Blaise, if you need the HTML to make it happen. Of course, you need to get the graphic, first. :-)
(467) LP: Christmas came already? You lucky one. Still waiting for mine. :-)
I vote sainthood for Mark. Truly above and beyond, for The Dan.
2nd Christmas party I had to attend this week. I have another one next Friday. Trying to get out of it, but don't think I will have success. Tis the season.... ugh!
SteveeDan: I think 10cc claimed greater than average. For most it's ..."sorry, we only have 8..."
Stevie - it won't happen again
Beatles - Only see solo covers:
Fagen: The Night Before a la Ruby Baby
Becker: Dr. Robert
§: In fact, Paul should release a cover album of Dan tunes
Dr Wu
Razor Boy.
Caves of Altamira
Pretzel Logic
Janie Runaway
Change of the Guard
With a Gun (now entitled The Second Ammendment)
Pearl of the Quarter
Haitian Divorce
Third World Man
Spanish Dancer was a hit over the border?
Damn, all the decent hits the last 20 years are played out of this country. Even Crowded House got a big hit in England with The Weather in You. In the meantime, we keep getting Elton John (though he promises this is his Last One)...
By order of Tiberius I find you all GUILTY and sentence you to 20 years of ABBA, post 70s Elton John (except you can't listen to In Neon), John Tesh, and Billy Joel classical music.
Blaise....no harm, no foul.
Happy Belated Birthday (yesterday) to Dave Brubeck.
Happy Birthday today to Tom Waits and Harry Chapin.
off to battle the masses at the mall....I hate shopping this time of year!
Are the Dan considering covering a Beatles song for real? If not, what's the point? I think it should be the other way around. I think McCartney could learn a thing or two by covering a Dan song myself. It might expand his musical vocabulary for one, refresh his sound, which is stagnant since the seventies, it seems. I'm one of those who think Steely Dan was on par with the Beatles in terms of songwriting skills. But this here is a Beatle chateau-fort and the spit shield is up, in case anyone happens to read this by mistake, that is. No disrespect intented. Btw, I predict Ringo will outlive us all, if that makes you feel any better.
Oops, see I really should start reading before I write anything down. I missed the Messiah minute again, damn.
Mad me, I'm terrible, terrible.
For the record, there are plenty of people going out of their way to ignore my posts on a daily basis, however engaging they may be. I'm not weeping out loud here, it's just a fact I learned to live with. I thought it was the way to go around here now. Well excuuuuuuuusez-moi...
Vote for D&W to take on "Norweigan Wood", have always thought that song had more potential. Already has some jazz flavoring, kick it up a notch, the lyrics are ripe for the classic SD type interpretation.
"isn't it good..."
So Clas, I gather a bridge is whatever ain't a chorus, a prelude, an interlude, a solo section or a verse. And i'd be taking the cue of a seasoned session player, huh? I saw this "pre-chorus" and gawd dammit, I guess I must be the only one.
Yes, Midnite, you caught me with my pants down, I don't always read carefully and repeated your insights there. Gosh, but really, if I had a dime for every time this happened to me, me and Aja we'd be dancing the night away. I prefer to hold a grudge than to bluntly point it out. It's all a question of social skills. I was raised by a pack of wolves in the Canadian wilderness. I've never denied it.
jenny - read above. I didn't mean to downplay your return. Btw, as happy and honored as I am to be on your shout-out list down there, I have to disagree with such exclusive practice. It's like marking a territory, founding a pack parallel to the group. Believe you me, I would know.
Favorite Gap ad? That one with wild child actress Juliette Lewis. There was something in the way she moved... there was a certin strangeness to it but it's been taken off the air since.
Mu - In that song, the muted string are kept way up in the mix. I like that, sounds like a million bucks, especially in the... bridge? The "Don't do this..." section. It's used as a percussive instrument over the drums in the mix. One of the few examples of radio overkill, I still enjoy hearing, besides some early Dan stuff, of course. Well written and dynamic sounding stuff.
Where's The Stranger, Clas? He was telling us what's what like a month ago, saying so and so should leave, etc...
Where's your Messiah now?
Anneke!
“Hooterie” could also mean the plant-whistle, it blows when the day is done / and it's time for some fun...
And, I don't want to be negative on Blaises advice, but, sometimes a picture says more than a thousand words. Go to
ateljelundkvist.se/galleri
There I will paint you a picture.
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“Got to get you into my life” isn't a bad choice. Blood Sweat & Tears did a tremendous version of that song, and there's a link between Steely Dan and Blood Sweat & Tears back then, George Wadenius. The album was “No Sweat”.
But a more propriate Beatles-song for Steely Dan to cover is “Yesterday”. Considering that Becker/Fagen nowdays are travelling (or did travell) around with a cover band backing them up. Not exactly reflecting “the zeitgeist” anymore. Pure nostalgica.
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Blaise, I have been playing in rythm-sections since 1947, and I have NEVER heard the term “pre-chorus”.
“Yes I am going insane / I ate your cra-zy cow / I am out of here”
That's a bridge I'm afraid.
C
there's a stranger in my house
ronnie milsap
back at cha jenny... i really hate to take on the ten cc thing but... let's see, is it what willie dixon meant by "spoonful" ? or was that heroin ? lifeline ? final answer... ejaculate. keepin' it clinical here.
jazz vocalist Jane Monheit's Come Dream With Me. most beautiful voice I've heard in years. listen to the phrasing on I'll Be Seeing You, the high c on David Gates' 'If.' Fantastic.
kenny barron at piano, michal brecker on sax.
she's only 24. there will be lots more
word up jim#, zeke.
kick off the clogs, anneke. hang out. and you think sd's use of english is confounding ? kick in turbo-translators, yo...
my own, like trademark ? angel, my imagination is off, just like that. it could be a spinning jelly doughnut with flames ! someone would have to show me how to attach it, though. i'm sure the ten year old could...
nobody bit, huh wormy ? give me a chance ! i will now magically combine two threads (yours and mu's) into ONE ! production style in generale. rundgren=kitchen sink / sd=sparer density. elp was a keyboard trio so obviously heavy on a variety of synth color... but for me, the evolution of fidelilty in the seventies was all about the last gasp of a.m. radio mentality. de compresione el grande. dry cardboard drums. no overtone. dragged kicking and screaming into opening up frequency and dynamic ranges. studios with state-of-the-art equipment often put out incredibly dry sounding records, often at the behest of the artists but more often because of the engineering and mastering styles still intent on delivering to the three inch speaker. and of course, this entire argument is only relevent in regard to popular music, generally...
randy, dan beatles cover thread. how apropos, i'm in. "get back" is a great one. how about "she's leaving home" or "long & winding road" ? we could have more input on this...
Thank you Jenny. The upbeat energy that you talk about with the radio playing a favorite song is what got me into music in the first place. It feels like the whole world for just a moment is a friendly place and it is swirling all around you.
Randy - too funny. Could Donald also wear the satin Sgt. Pepper's outfit. "I Am The Walrus Coo-coo ca-('preciate it) joo".
Yep Mu - 10CC, Floyd, Parsons, and did you know that for "Songs In The Key Of Life", Stevie Wonder had help from Mr. Nakamichi on the recording of that album? He did.
10CC is (ah, er, um, ahem...) the average amount of male ejaculate (at least that's what they've calculate - ed. Masters and Johnson? Or Mastering one's Johnson. Oh-oh, Stevee on the loose ...
Happy holidays everyone. Working hard at hardly working.
Steveedan
Love you to no end steveedan! lol.
And on the the high fidelity thing, to: (insert that little symbol thingy I've never been able to figure out how to do), I agree with you on Supertramp. Damn, The Gap has adopted that one song, which, I actually think that campaign is pretty cool. The various artists singing "Give A Little Bit"? I think that's genius! And your referrence to 10cc was way too cool, lol...Quick trivia question: anyone know the origin of 10cc's name? (or, at least, the specualtion?) Almost funnier, maybe more, than SD's, lol...
Quick gratitous shout out to those I truly appreciate and/or have been thinking of: steveeedan, of course, snakie, OF COURSE, steviedan, angel, tones, craigster, and yes blaisy, you too...
Now's the time that we need to share...
jenny
Don,
Sorry bro...had the wrong adress...musta made a
wrong turn at seven-eleven...sorry...nice pool
by the way...
467 and on...
Zeke: A good suggestion. Arc of a Diver is a super one-man band album. The spacing is really nice...and to tie into another thread - tasty use of synthesizers, though more out front than the Dan. The key is to avoid the overbearing tendencies than occasioned even the "almost" ;-) great bands like Yes, Crimson, Genesis, etc. Stevie Winwood really plays his guitar off the synth and keys well. Even Spanish Dancer has a drum loop that I actually admire as the whole soundscape swirls.
Blaise: "School" is an amazing blend of burst of melody, rhythm, sound-effects, semivirtuosity. The story and the song set their own rhythm and pace instead of vice-versa. Art-rock that bloody well works on some level...
Alan Parsons (of Floyd production fame) was clean. Like the "Don't Answer Me" (a Don't Let Me in appeal) and another tune from Ammonia Avenue. The more commercial stuff I can take or leave...Mannheim Steamroller - I'll give him -(forgot the guys name) and A for special effects
Don,
Stopped by your house...could'nt find you...it's a
big old place...i'll try again later...
Anneke -- A hooterie is usually some type of party. Welcome, and don't be afraid to ask anymore questions about lyrics or any other questions. Also check out The Steely Dan Dictionary a site by Dan O'Malley at:
http://members.aol.com/danomalley/steelydan/
Dragon
Blaise....yeah, I think I alluded to the Les Paul / multi-track recording thing in post 372.
enimen....thanks for the info on Les's current gig....hope I can make it back to NYC to check him out live before it's too late....hard to believe the last time I was there was 1985.
the work week is done....nice to have the next three days off....hope y'all have a good "rest of the week"....it's just way too hot and dry here.
hey marky mark in the bustling metro-southeastern "how many building permits can we deny this month" part of the state - hey, you are so the man! i really like the 2vN cover and the spin on book of liars is wonderful and they really did something with my old school which ain't easy i am sure - thanks so much!
green earrings, where are you - guess what, i learned how to burn cd's! i burned a great jazz christmas cd and now i can do all the ones i owe you - how cool is that!
ward? did you have a good day?
love synthesizers, wormy and only steely dan could use them without bein cheeky, or on purpose to be cheeky, no?
sending out juju love becasue i feel like it, can't take this life too seriously now can i
Got to get you into my life? They could change the words to make the song about heroin. "I was alone, I popped a vein, I was pretty sure what I would find there."
Steviedan: thank you for the Shawn Colvin non-boxed listing. One local store had only "Whole New You", will have them order a couple of the others, unless they offer a deal on the package of seven. Am daily giving my John Mayer "Room for Squares" CD a work out, this guy has real potential!
Jim#: You really gonna trust old Facey to hold 'er steady for ya?? LOL, brave man you are...
Christmas parade tonight, hope I make it back before 9pm. At least the weather is warm, no frozen toes and fingers.
snakie:!! the penguin download was absolutely too funny!!! and the palm puppy in da groove one, omg, you notice they always seem to be male dogs in these jokes??
Off to the races folks...Talleyho!!!
Leggggggggg UUUUUUUUUUUUppp!
462 randy on beatles/dan cover
I'd like to hear And Your Bird Can Sing ala Don and Walt with jazz inflections...
then again from a character study
Mean Mr Mustard or Strawberry Fields
definitely a Lennon tune
have a good weekend
over and out
anneke - Welcome. Talk about it. As a french speaking fellow, I had been wrestling with the lyrics for many years before my pals here pointed out that it can mean a whole lot of things all at once or in other words, nothing in particular. I'll let them anglos handle the "hooterie" business.
Seriously, check out the web page of our own high priestess of dandom Oleander for more fine threading collected on the subject of Steely Dan lyrics. And stick around for the discussions here, ranging from the idiotic to the sublime, depending on one's viewpoint, of course.
Nice to have another fan from the Netherlands visiting...
Clas - Now THAT's a lovely name.
Steely-folk,
Here's one for you... If Steely Dan were to record a cover of a Beatles song, what is the most likely song they would cover (stylistically speaking)? Aside from Donald Fagen's obvious regard for 'The Ballad of John & Yoko' (I couldn't really see him singing that lyric), make a pitch...
I was initially thinking 'Don't Let Me Down,' but then I couldn't see Fagen singing that one either (though perhaps Becker would do well with it), so my suggestion is 'Get Back': straight forward, understated blues with engaging lyrical narrative, sort of a brother to 'Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More.'
Unless of course you are able to imagine Fagen singing "A ginger sling with a pineapple heart..." ('Savoy Truffle').
Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com
hi there
Steely Dan makes beautiful music,
but the lyrics are sometimes very difficult for a foreigner.
(I'am from the Netherlands/Europe)
What the hell means "when the hooterie is over"?
Who would like to explain that to me?
With love,
Anneke
More residual coverage from the TEC Awards, where we don't learn much of anything new, besides Les Paul's instrumental role in bringing about multi-track recording, thus adding to his level of influence, beyond the guitar, of course. I did not know that.
"School" on Crime Of the Century still ranks among the best sounding records I've heard, no matter how badly it aged since style-wise. So it's no surprise here and would have been my guess, no shit, I swear.
453 mu wrote which bands best sounding/produced albums
having worked in hi end audio as a college student I'd go with Supertramp, Genesis, Floyd. You forgot Alan Parsons and Manheim Steamroller (try fresh aire 2). Fleetwodd and Rundgren's discs were up there too. Certainly not the stones, who, faces or zeppelin.
457 zeke I've seen Cleary, he plays all over town
check out Medeski Martin and Wood this saturday at tips
450 nobody bit on my dan synth thread
wormy
just call me angel of the morning. I was up late working on a project. For my money, the answer is REO Speedwagon. Oh, wait, that's Hi Infidelity, nevermind.
Anybody see the Toyota spokesman who was talking about the Taliban's use of Toyota pick ups and sheepishly saying that the Taliban look for the same reliabiliy and dependablity in a pickup truck as other truck buyers? In line with the trend of using rock music to promote vehicle sales, I see Toyota obtaining the rights to Rock the Casbah very soon.
Hello everyone.
Arc Of A Diver is very clean when played very loud.
Not a huge Beatle fan, but I really was into George Harrison.
Worm, if you get a chance check out Jon Cleary.
YGK: This certainly is a subjective category, but I'm going with (surprise?) Supertramp. Crime of the Century and the 1980? Breakfast in America are pretty fair fare. Don't listen to them often, but the dynamic range use of space, clarity, and lack of noise are impressive to my ears. Don't have time to expand at the moment...
The Carpenters were pretty squeaky clean sounding.
10cc could also put out some high fidelity stuff
I'll say the Doobs, but is this really a definitive category/question/answer?
The Carpenters is my guess
Question: Who besides Steely Dan had the highest fidelity recordings in the pop field in the 70s?
Is it:
a) ABBA
b) The Carpenters
c) Doobie Brothers
d) Genesis
e) Pink Floyd
f) Supertramp
g) David Bowie
§,fl: Don't get French on me...why, I'll... send you a Jerry Lewis tape or a Shari Lewis tape...
from RollingStone.com:
"McCartney Readies New Single
"Freedom" to be second benefit release from new album
Letting "Freedom" ring
Paul McCartney is rushing a second benefit single from his upcoming album, Driving Rain. On November 13th, McCartney will release "Freedom," with proceeds from the song being directed towards the Robin Hood Foundation, which distributes money to firemen, policemen and the families of victims of the September 11th terrorist attacks.
McCartney showcased the song, ***which he penned after September 11th***, at his October 20th Concert for New York City, and the reaction from fans prompted him to release it as a benefit single, just two weeks after the release of Driving Rain's "From a Lover to a Friend," the proceeds from which also have been directed towards the Robin Hood Foundation. The Concert for New York City, which featured performances by Eric Clapton, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, and others has become the highest-grossing event every to be held at Madison Square Garden, raising $30 million.
Driving Rain, McCartney's first album of new material since 1997's Flaming Pie, will arrive in record stores on November 13th."
Forget all the speculation or innuendo surrounding weapons of mass destruction, what if al Qaeda got a hold of that Kate Bush cloudbusting machine? What if they developed the ability to fuck with the weather? Paranoia, the destroyer? It's a balmy 70ish degrees in the freezer...
damn it, I missed earthbound from Chicago who was in, but had forgot to bring my phone number along, wasn't able to make monday night and had no way to contact you (my loss). a close friend lost her mother this week and I was off consoling her. Did get your voice blast (aus term) and sorry we didn't hook up, sounds like you had a fun time (there's always jazzfest f where I can make up for the oversight)
445 Jim# - welcome back
80 hour work weeks ouch!
well that ought to translate into more spending money on discs come Jazzfest
436 - aja, running off with my canadian friend
I'm torn but it couldn't happen to a nicer guy ;-)
so that's why the cave door is locked, humm
ever notice the dan used synths very sparingly
they were in the pallet - Aja (near the end), Chain Lightening etc.
but not a prominant color or texture like others of the day (Rundgren, Floyd, ELP)Seems they preferred more of the classic rhoades and hammond sounds, at least up till nightfly
toodles of topsoil
wormy
W1P/Steveedan: Was there something in the air last night? Neither of you could sleep? Hmmmm....
(445) Jim #: You are alive! I was starting to wonder. 80 hour work weeks are no fun at all. Miss your parodys. :-(
(443) steviedan: You need someone to come up with a graphic for the "steviedan album of the week". You could attach it to your post, when appropriate.
(440) Jenny: Good to see you. It had to be Peg, though. Sigh....
Still trying to get a listen to Let's Roll. Unfortunately, my car time is limited to the top or bottom of the hour. I finally get past the news this morning and they played Wooden Ships. Close, but no cigar.
Disclaimer:
µ - Sure, unfortunately, that one was not very inspired and "Freedom", what is that? That's vague, man. He had it in the can since the early eighties Hostage Crisis in Iran. I meant "dealing directly" meaning refering or even, in Young's case, quoting from the actual events. Preferably, with some insightful hindsights. But I haven't heard the song myself yet. It might be a few clicks away already...
And by "established", I didn't mean to undermine the previous examples, those from up and coming or lesser known artists, of course.
Save all ammo for the enemy.
Saw last weekend's suicide bomber farewell tape... I mean, human being as part of the arsenal now, litterally cannon flesh, destined to splatter all over and mighty glad to do just that... chilling stuff.
Aja - Say the word. Say, say, say... I'm just trying to remain coherent here, waiting. I got plenty of dimes, American dimes. lol
Goodmorning --
Insomniac Steve here. It's nice to see more posts from those who post less frequently. The tone of this place has changed for the better.
Jennywennymoneypenny - that was a great radio story about Peg and how it lifted up your spirits. That story is one example of not only how great the music of Steely Dan is, but also, the sheer power of music. I feel the exact same way every time one of my favorite songs comes on the radio, and I too, feel like the radio station is on my wavelength, and is a notch better than they were before they played that favorite song (not somebody else's favorite song !).
Wormy - I too was wondering (back in the day) about JT's song and George's song. It is too coincidental. Both ballads are beautiful. And these songs are unique from each other.
JT -- There's something in the way she moves. Or looks my way or calls my name, ...
GH -- Something in the way she moves attracts me like no other lover.
These 2 songs might start out the same way lyrically, but they each go their separate loving ways. Marvelous songwriting in both songs.
... and I feel fine.
Steveedan
I am just a new boy, stranger in this town, where are all the good times? Who's gonna show this stranger around? It's 4:18 a.m. and I'm a Libra. Yuk
I think I'll invite RoyScam and Hutch for a meeting of reclusive Virginia Gentlemen who post all too infrequently.
Wormy: That Jimbo fellow waren't me. Nope. Glad the NYC trip was such a success!
Aja: Aww, you thought about the trip in plenty of time. I just had to wimp out on it and leave a dangling worm to witness a great show, from all accounts.
Cynny: If I could string lights by proxy, they'd already be done.
Having a terrific time reading this board of bard's. When my 80 hour work weeks slow down, I'll be back. Best wishes for Advent to all.
Jenny! Welcome to HOLLYWOOD!
EXACTLY ! i have been trying to attach an image to myself for years and so far have failed miserably ! just like don & walt, for example. if they had the image of say, eminem and elton john hugging, then rolling stone maggotzine might proclaim them the highlight of the grammys this year. a year which they describe as a "stomach-clenchingly dull" show. sd was at leaset credited as the "big winners", but i don't guess that even merits a little photo. they just don't see that sd is DANGEROUS and EXCITING. they wouldn't...
now from the dept. of huge oversight:
ronald, ernie, et isleys, maurice, et elements (ewf). and i really included some lesser funkgods. stevie DAY-Yamn !
okay, i'm now officially going to push this "steviedan (thing) of the week" to new heights (or lows, depending) with a video that just destroyed any illusions i may have as a guitarist. it is the hellecasters "live... raw... in germany". this is a frightening display that should NOT be viewed by young children who aspire musically. fortunately at my age, it's too late to quit now. most humbling.
hi-de-ho to ti bon ange, jenny, and as always, miss aja.
rudewaitress, we've got to have those little tableside wall jukeboxes filled with steely hits and yellow tablecloths that show the stains. no, that's gross. but the little quarter-eaters. yeah !
wormy, i'm homegrown, streamin' my own. right now it's gil evans. you know, i ALWAYS wondered about the relationship of those lyrics, it being from jt's apple lp and such. a fine one and i've got it on vinyl and disc. thanx for confirming the connection, bro-ham.
Dammit! Maybe I'd better hold off symbolizing myself until I learn how to attach an image properly.
:(
Can anyone be symbolic on this board? Or is that reserved for an elite few?
Virgin post on the new board! Woo Hoo!
Anyway, just musing a bit.
I was on my way home last night, kind of in a bad mood due to, well, life. I had the radio on to the local "smooth jazz" station. And, just at the most perfect, absolute right time, they played "Peg". Now while I have "Aja", and listen to it quite frequently, I have to admit that I had gotten a little worn out on the "Top 40" selection of SD songs. You know, the select few songs that radio has limited itself to playing? Well, I have to say, that when I heard those first few bars, the volume went straight up to maximum levels. A feeling rose up inside of me that I can't even explain in words. I sang every word at the top of my lungs with a full, huge, teethy smile plastered on my face the whole time. I was actually laughing in between lyrics and pounding the steering wheel because I was filled with such happiness at hearing those voices...every ounce of depression or anger just melted away. Such power those boys have over me. A song I've probably heard, at least, 2000 times in my life, easily, still has the power to restore peace to my soul. Okay, maybe I'm getting a little dramatic, lol, but my point is, no matter how many times I hear "Peg", or "Rikki Don't Lose That Number", or "Reelin' in the Years", all those songs that were tattoed on our brains in the 70's, it's all Steely Dan. And hearing them on the radio is a rare treat these days and can transform my mood in an instant. I almost felt pride for the radio station, lol.
Just a moment in the day of a life...
jennywennymoneypenny
Yeah, I know Ronnie. Hell, we're in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and he blows us off too...
Yo steviedan, what about us? Sheesh... funkin' up the place since 1950-somethin' and still get no repect or shout outs...
Blaise: Yeah, I heard about it this morning from Joe Benson. He had just played "Ohio", which Neil Young wrote the day after Kent State.
Then he mentioned this new one. Unfortunately, he did not play it then. I hope to hear it sometime.
LP: Court, so soon? As in the legal action from a month or so ago? At Christmastime? :-(
Hello one and all!
Just a quick hello, sneaking a break from the daily grind at my favorite coffee shop. It's blues day today, but I think jazz goes better with late fall and conversation. Sorry Jim#, I should have called you as soon as I found out about the 'Damned show! I'll just have to make it up to you in 'Nawlins.
Dr. Mu-work is going well, but I miss science. Am heading back down that path someday.
Wonderworm-news, updates? ;o)
Blaisie, may I have this dime dance?
Aja
Need some Christmas spirit? Log on to MP3.com and look up Bob Tedde's band "Rockola." There you will find a song called "Just in Time for Christmas" that many of you probably have heard but all of you will enjoy (with some obvious exceptions).
§: Sir Paul slapped one on the end of his New One called "Freedom."
First song off an established contemporary songwriter dealing directly with 9-11.
You be the judge.
Let die Zeitgeist roll...
Hi there, luckless... segwayan?
hey, did someone say planning?.........
........oh wait, i forgot, i'm a dog catcher
how many dog catchers get summoned to court - merry freakin christmas huh?
duncan, do tell the details to me off line if you wish -
opp's forgot went a whole working day 7.00 - 6.00 without checking SIS strange feeling.
''Hell a day without SIS is like a day without sunshine''
Thankz big john.
ti bon ange -- hey grrl! Greetings from another who had been way out of cyber-circulation until recently ...
/the Mam'zelle
(humming "you zombie, be born again my friend ... ")
I tried to fight the law & you guessed it the law won
Planning permission granted for a house behind our house...?
excuse me here.. FUCKING LEFT WING BASTARDS
you do well, buy a nice house.
one guy i swear spent the entire meeting studying his free pen.
Still it's only a house.
no live cd's in the mail today... ohh well soon be christmas.
Dano you out there ?
TWM got the rain yet.
JJ send address & you can have a FREE label.
will try chat over the weekend.
(just caught linda playing air guitar to Boston Rag in the kitchen, at least that's i think she was doing, she was fairly nere the washer on fast spin when i walked in)
Opening a fat one to all the downtrodden ridden over rough shot of the free world now.
cheers
db
Hey Y'all,
Well I'm back online after spending $200 bucks for a
new cable modem...Not sure what happened but that little
shark-fin looking 3COM cable modem bit the dust yesterday.
Wound up replacing it with a Motorola modem which I was
told was much better. When it happened I was kinda pissed
cuz I just replaced my computer only to have the modem
disintergrate. The people at 3COM assured me that if I
just sent them the modem that they would inspect it for
damage and if the modem failed due to a manufacturers
defect they would replace it free of charge but that it
might take 30 days... "Thirty days!", I said in my best
Jack Nicholson voice, "Now listen dear, I have this box
on my desktop, and there are people inside the box that
I desperately want to bother, and how am I supposed to
do that if I'm without my precious modem for 30 days?"
"We're very sorry for the inconvenience sir", she said
"but unless we recieve the modem we can't insure that
the problem was'nt caused through mis-use".
"Mis-use?", I said "How do you mis-use a modem? I just
sits there. There's no way to mis-use it is there?"
"I'm not a technician sir", she said
"Yes", I said "and I'm not a customer either".
hehehe...
Wow, Pat, I like the look of this guestbook.
Hi hi hi.... Looking for GreeneEarrings! Email me if you're receiving this message!
d.
Walt Disney would have been 100 years old today.
Strom Thurmond would have been...errrrrr... is... 99 years old today.
actually cyn, remember that movie, dogma? - that was a great flick - alanis morrissette was god, too damn funny!
frank sinatra said the george harrison love song was the best ever written
headache the size of montana, wow!
hey ge, i figured out how to burn cd's last night, woo-hoo, so i will get you the stuff i owe you soon, okay?
nmn, give me a call at the office sometime for lunch in the next couple of weeks
aus/ed, nice chat last night, you guys are the best!
405 jjeff - glad someone noticed my preferred method of referencing old posts. loved your funk infection, I live here with the Meters, Dr John , Rebrith, Galactic and the memory of James Booker
403 - Miss Ducklet - yes the Mojo article was fab
one of these days I'll get a subscription - expensive, but what a wonderful rag (great mix of waxing nostalgic and the latest craze)
409 speaking of craze - Jimbo #
loved that Britney etc "is packaged rebellion"
only thing is disney should stick to animation
not anti mate shun (or was that anti music)
406 - auss thanks for the kind words
and you're a great guy and generous host
yes not in the city long enough
but you'd be amazed at all I took in
thanks for the non tourist approach
anyway sounds like the parade deal with my parents might be a yearly thing, I'm game (switch to Mr Rogers voiceover)
can you say MINGUSMINGUSMINGUS
I knew you could
412 stevie WJAZ try WWOZ (streaming jazz to liven that pc)
www.wwoz.com
blaise miss the dark cave but things are bright here
anyone care to guess where George Harrison got the inspiration for Something (one of the all time best love songs)?
Seems a certain young man from NC named James Taylor showed up to demo at Apple Records. The first song he demo'd started out with "Something in the way she moves, looks my way or calls my name..."
George lifted the line and made it all his own
She's so fine, indeed
Worm of Tomness
Good Mornin' Steely posters,
Steviedan..Kraft? I think the cell phone connection was bad. I thought you said Giraffe Dinner. Now, What the hell am I gonna do with this Giraffe in my backyard........
US Marine Corps bumper sticker:
" Its Gods Responsibility to Forgive Osama Bin Laden,
Its Our Responsibility to Arrange the Meeting"
Can't get into the Christmas Spirit because its been so warm, I need that chill in the air while I go sneaking around and liberating holly and evergreens from my neighbor's yards. Under the cover of darkness, of course.
I need to find a man that will go up a really tall ladder and hang my lights on the 3rd floor peak. Compensation for such an act of kindness will be...1. 5 course Dinner
2. A glass of my coveted Passion fruit licquer
3. And the bonus is... a chance to meet Face the Face, face to face. She'll hold the ladder for you.
JJeff...Wouldn't it really piss off Bin Laden if God was a woman like Marianne Faithful?
RudeWaitress has decided to redecorate the Steely Diner and Truckstop. She welcomes any advice from the ever so tasteful GB posters.
I bought a copy of Vanity Fair to read on the plane...it was the one about music with Bowie, Joni, Beck, etc. on the cover. I didn't get thru it until I arrived back home. Not one mention of The Dan. I think this calls for a letter to the editor for their oversight.
The opening act for Bare Neekid Ladies was Leona Naoss(?)..had never heard of her. Then while reading the mag, lo and behold, there she was. Turns out, shes Diana Ross's stepdaughter (or former).
chere? Chere? CHERE!!!....Married? I'm always the last to know.
sh..Thanks for the penguin email..Cody and I laughed til we cried..then we played it again..LOL!
serve
LP/NMN: Actually, if you meet a Durgan Park, you can have the Rude Waitress server you on the 2nd level.
Blaise: Check Old Snowbound.
Tora Bora. Sad to see the bomb missed. :-(
Can't get off the Segway subject. I can't believe the inventor believes that we will lug this thing around as we do our errands. Where do you put your objects when you run those errands? To top it all off, it is going to cost at least 3 thousand to buy? I don't think so....
What, haven't they found bin Laden yet? Interesting.
And Israel is about to murder Arafat. THAT make sense.
C
Well, Clas, if you put it that way. But seriously... it looks like it's showdown in the war as we speak. A B-52 bomber just blew up Special Forces and Opposition fighters north of Kandahar by mistake and the assault on the suspected bin Laden hideout in Tora Bora, near Jalalabad, is going down. Developping...
Sense is highly overrated.
C
Fine. Then it's an interlude, a Bad Sneaker stroll in the park that eventually leads back to the "bridge" which introduces the chorus. And in the end, the love you take is (roughly) equal to the love you make. See? It all makes sense.
Blaise - no.
C
And, as Hoops brought it up lately, the fact that the Beatles elected to concentrate on studio work rather than touring in the late sixties probably made the Dan's late seventies endevours possible.
George introduced the Beatles to meditation and more generally, was a key in awakening spirituality and probably made this public life drop out possible in the first place and lead to some of that fine writing.
Everything being related in the universe and interacting and all that, yes. Ommmmmm
Considering the fine line up of guitar players that contributed to Steely Dan through its history, the Les Paul award comes as no surprise here, it is merited. Reeling in the years, The SD catalog reads like an evolution in cool rock guitar playing techniques, a slice of the evolution of the craft encapsulated each time in truly memorable form.
Sorry guys, that's the pre=chorus and it leads the verse to the chorus more than once in the song, more of a "revolving door" than anything else. The bridge in Bad Sneakers is really the guitar solo segment, no?
Jai Guru Deva Ommmmmmmm.
And in the end... India won over George Harrison.
killer creative fusion from "uncle moe's space ranch", a kollektief komprised of a couple of guitshredders: brett garsed & tj helmerich, tribal tech bassist gary willis (gina, you there ?), well you know the omnipotent dennis chambers is kickin' it, & keysman scott kinsey. tight monkey nut ! grillin' ! sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssBOOM !
won't you turn your radio down ?
expect a seven second delay...
" " " " " " "
hello st alphonzo & thanx for calling wjaz, your number ONE jazz and conversation station. you say you FELL ASLEEP, az in zzzzz during jackson browne and shawn colvin. and yet how many "drums" and "space" did you manage to stay awake through lol ? looks like we may have another caller on the line who would like to comment on your insult to the browne man's music. and here's CLAS ! clas ? st al sez...
and NOW back to the black man's (yet not exclusive to) music. roy on the line, if i can include sly or war, then watts 103rd st rhythm band would qualify as a funk band. we will emphatically agree that victor wooten is a funk band. just victor. a band... nEXT caller, jjeff, i had decided that bootsy, like george clinton were included in the p-funk arena but you convince me that such funkikons deserve their own entry and of course they do. i also need to add fela kuti because if ole were to call in, she would...
tenth caller WINS a rubber band purported to be bootsy's for his(/her, i'm not clear) "steelybuzztracks". soulive is a great suggestion for the listeners of wjaz. both albums are in a medeski martin & wood sort of groove and the first one includes john scofield. very tasty, steelybuzz. we're impressed...
this is steviedan the nightguy giving you the goodbye look from behind the big microphone here at wjaz...
Jimbo - yeah, I thought so. And about rebells, sooner or later they all become a part of the establishment. In one way or another.
But not me, because I AM somebody.
I am born on Jackson Brownes BIRTHDAY! (John Lennon was also born on Brownes birthday but that doesn't count, he's dead)
How about that uh?
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Apropos George Harrison, I remember watching the making of Imagine, Yokos film about the recordings in John Lennons home. Jim Keltner was there, George Harrison was there (he looked like he had dropped something).
And Lennon had brought Phil Spector to produce the stuff.
There's a special sequence when the guys are gathering in the morning for breakfast. Everybody looks pretty tired and are sitting in jeans and t-shirts around the table, passing the tea around. Pretty sloppy style, hippie kind of.
And in comes Phil Spector, dressed up in a dark suit, with a tie and probably a revolver too.
John Lennon looks at him a short second, then saying:
- PHIL SPECTOR! WELCOME TO HOLLYWOOD!
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Guys, I need your help. I am about to insert some soundfiles on my oficial homepage, or, to be more specific, my Webdrone is about to do that. In what format do these clips have to be in? *.wav or mp3 or? Is it an easy thing to do?
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dr Mu - did you go to Angola? But that's Jail, not Yale, am I wrong here?
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Roy Scam - no, read dr Mu's explanation (exvacation?), he looked up “bridge”, “...yes I am going insane...” can pass for a bridge.
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I have probably forgot something I need to talk about so I'll be back in a minute.
C
PS/ LP - hey girl!
Chatters -- Goodnight, Sweet Dreams.
Homey -- I thought I knew... My Old School threw me off. I need to ask you a question (maybe more than one), please meet me in chat sometime. I might be there tomorrow night but I never know from night to night. I'll endeavor to make it there each night until I reach you.
Dragon
Clas- Absolutely, right. Kurt Loder was a senior editor and music critic for Rolling Stone magazine. I have plenty of issues from the eighties from when he did some reviews.
Somehow, I do not know what happened along the way. On MTV during the early years he was alright. But I think he got heavily seduced by the
business side and became more a part of the establishment. From my way of thinking, if Loder rebelled against the idea that music was creative
and supported more of the business, he could be rebelling in favor of the establishment. George Harrison along with Donald and Walter are different kind of rebels. They rebel against the idea that rebellion is packaged.
Eminem, N'sTINK, Britney Spears are examples of packaged rebellion. They use that image to impress record executives and soda pop companies.
George, God rest his soul and Don and Walt didn't give a hoot. They just
got up and did their thing without packaging, hype and apologies. Kurt needs to remember what he left behind and what he once was before MTV.
By the way, George is on the cover of Time magazine this week.
Thank you, Time magazine.
Whoops, forgot to sign in my name. I'm in chat while working online. If I don't respond immediatly it's because the sound card or something is broken so I can't hear you enter. So be patient with me.
in chat now
Egregiously overdue kudos:
1. Floridavid: Super duper job on Big B's Eulogy. Indeed he smiled a big smile.....and just think, he's got a bettre conglomoration of musicians up there than we can ever hope for down here.....I'm proud of you bud.
2. Dean Wurmer: A gentleman bar none. Super friendly. Super all-around. Superb human being and a distinctive pleasure to host. Only regret, gun to the head: Not in the City long enough, and left with feeling of just burrowing the surface.
3. Chere my voodoo chile baby-love: Congrats on wedding love. Keep eyes peeled on United States Postal Service parcel......your luciously lipped Latin boy.
post scripts: 1.The Beatles have DOMINATED our airwaves at work AND at home.
2. NMN: Go easy on June please. She gets sooo tipsy after a glass of the good bubbly.
Aus
First of all...
Floridavid: I sincerely believe your brother would have been proud of you. Just the effort of writing a eulogy for a family member is an undertaking. You did good.
Wormy: The number references is a good idea, particularly for ones like me who only stick their head in once a week.
Duncan(261): I'm sure the puddings are great but I want to see the lables you've made :-)
Cyn: So you've finally found the AbFab frequency, eh? Wait till you see the episode involving the return of God( Marianne Faithful) with her new sidekick the Devil( Anita Pallenburg). You'll wet'em.
Steely Buzz: Howdy. Stick around. You'll pick up on everyones little quirks. It can be quite entertaining.
z: I look forward to the saga. You'll have to remind me what some of the abbreviations are for, although I couldn't forget EJWPR my favorite character.
Mu: There's red-green colorblindness in our family too! My father and one of my nephews has it. Dad would never admit to it when we were growing up, but the signs were there. He'd touch up the cracks on the white house with light green paint. My older brother got a wagon for Christmas once that was all red except for one green side. It was fun.
Steviedan: Get the funk outa my funk! Bootsy carried the funk flag through how many generations!?!( Mommy, why's dat man's guitah shape like a stah?) You named all the funk I can funk about. How about World Party, a healthy offshoot of Waterboys? Not consistent funk but definitely marbled.
Roy.Scam: thanks for the reference. I must look up Victor Wooten.
Daaaano: E.T's got a new haircut, but you knew that. You're about 3months ahead of us. There's a 2hr show every Sun.a.m.
in chat this evening!
Ah, Durgin Park ... does mention of that joint ever give me a nostalgia attack. If not a heart attack. But massive mounds of cholesterol never tasted so goooooood ...
Finally got my hands on a copy of the November issue of Mojo. Nice one-pager on Donald, waxing eloquent on Ellington--with a fun photo yet (taken in Maui, maybe?) Plus a cover story on Pink Floyd (W1P, are you receiving?) and a piece on Macy Gray. I'm getting really fond of this magazine--too bad the subscriptions are so danged expensive, because it beats "Rolling Stone" all to flinders.
/the Mam'zelle
(about to bid work a fond toodle-oo)
Hi Guys...,
Well my cable modem is down for tonight so
I guess the world is safe...for now... ;)
Still extremely bummed about George Harrison.
Still, I feel very blessed to have grown up with
the music of George Harrison and all the other
important artists of the 60's and 70's. Thier
music helped to form us into what we are did'nt it?
Jim Croce wrote "after all it's what we've done that
makes us what we are...", aint that the truth?
I think George did some really good things and tried
to change the world for the better, I guess that makes
him kinda special in the end.
I guess I have to sit back and really be thankful for
the work of Donald Fagen and Walter Becker. In thier
own way they changed the world too. They changed it
for the better, they changed me for the better too.
Thanks guys.
Still here in my slippers ..
Good news though the foot's not broken after all.
Saw Sting's big drummer again forget his name at the weekend on Paul Mcartney's Freedom video.. he sure does get around.
Bought the Kate Winslet single @ the weekend kinda fitted my mood then.
Bought a new digital camera yesterday that kinda fitted my mood also.
Listened to Royal Scam today & you guessed it that's how I'm feeling today.
Had the most horrible dream last night that Linda left me.. awoke sweating & very upset awake for hours after..
Upset on Sunday too saw Pearl Harbour.
Sorted out the christening stuff tonight
Got absouloutly shitfaced on Saturday night still I never liked or wanted to go back to that restaurant anyway..
World cup draw christ!!!
Working on the family website Sat morn… looking good ?
Dan crawling crawling crawling when will it stop, I liked it better when he just sat there.
Somebody please send me a 2000 live cd
db
I used to be able to see the Spin Doctors AND Blues Traveller for $5.......back in the 80's, man.
The Nightingale, corner 2nd Ave/13th (since closed, I believe), had many toys to party with - if you know what I mean - and the music was one of them.
Never was a real huge fan of the Traveler, but SD's put on some amazing shows - always infectious with great musicianship on top.
It's a sad story to see how they just fell apart, and the mismanagement by the label.
And for Chris' voice to get so f**ed up - what a royal drag.....
And then having thanxgiving dinner out on 5th avenue, and sitting across from SD's bass player (name escapes me) and Tom Waits....goofy guys all.
Rem & Iss
NMN/Enimen: Durgan Park in honor of me? What Christmas spirit you have. :-)
I would love to go back and spend lunch with you both, sigh....
I put up my decorations on Sunday and it was cold and rainy out here. A bit better now, but you are getting our weather, so far this winter.
Blaise: I can't believe that Postmen are thinking of using those Segway things. Talk about in rain or snow....Brrr...
Steelybuzz: Glad to welcome you aboard. I am not actually the official welcome wagon, that would be LP. Pssst, LP, your cue. :-)
Steevie - No problem. Thanks for the late welcome. :)
Now, about Shawn Colvin...
I went to the Ben and Jerry's festival 2 years ago. It was a pretty cool festival, considering it was free. It was there I discovered Soulive, which to this day is one of my favorite groups (check 'em out at soulive.com, I highly reccomend them to everyone, and if you want, email me and I can hook you up with a live bootleg).
But anyway. The main reason I went to this thing was to see the Spin Doctors, who have since broken up. It's a sad thing.
But anyway... I'm rambling.
Shawn Colvin was on right before the Spin Doctors. Now...I don't deny she has a nice voice. I don't deny she has talent. But waiting for my alltime favorite band to show up for an hour and a half, praying that each song she sang would be the last, was hell.
Maybe in a different situation I would have appreciated it more. :)
µ: I forgot that I do have it as do my sons - I try to remind them of their cultural heritage - rednecks r us. I just played it and reminded myself about a few of the many reasons that I escaped. West Feliciana does have the best bicycling in La.
What's your degree in? I'm an EE.
fw
MC -- Iridium, Monday Nights on the West Side. I saw Les 10 years ago at Fat Tuesday's. He was too good--pearls falling from his fingertips. I put it with Mel Torme's fall visits to Michael's Pub as my best NY music experiences.
lp - lunch--yes! How 'bout a festive holiday rendezvous (take that, Ward) at Durgin Park, in honor of angel.
angel--that's you...how are you? See lp's earlier post--Vermont and LA are neck and neck for snow, so you're not missing anything back in the old country.
Well, I'm sitting here @ home waiting, waiting, waiting for the new oven to be delivered. We got a great bargain at Lowe's 9about $200 less than Sear), but now I'm REALLY paying for it. First, they don't know if the oven has been shipped, then they've forgotten it's to be delivered and installed, then they claim it's to be delivered, but we haven't paid for installation. Finally, I tell the manage "Just get the damn, thing over her and bring a damn power cord!" (My wife didn't want me to drag it home in the van and install it my self - sheesh). Roy, could be an EllEssYou grad in charge. The competition went under last month, and with lack of competition is I Love Lucy at Lowe's now...
I served part or my graduate at Angola...errr LSU. Actually, between oil funds and Confederacy of Dunces royalties, LSU built a pretty good core of researchers by the early 80s. Then Edwin Edwards and Civil Service sucked the state dry and the brain drain started. We escaped in '88...Wormy and Zeke are the only sane folks left, I think...
Fr. William: The song is called Rednecks - and it's an insightful and comedic classic. Randy Newman demonstrates his unique ability to say so much about human nature in so few words..."free to live in a cage..." Good Ole Boys is worth getting - while I'm waiting (fortunately, I have plenty of articles to read) - tried to find my tape...Here they are now...gotta gp...damn, I've been looking for that matchbook car for years...
Hey Shoes: If this Konqueror browser is so damn good, how come it doesn't support a simple bookmark tag? Why do I have to scroll all the way down the page in order to post? Besides, you know you're a true geek if you use Linux.
Geek
Stevie: RE: Shawn Colvin. You and my wife would get along great. She dragged me kicking and screaming to a Jackson Browne/Shawn Colvin concert back in 96. Only show I've ever fallen asleep in...
Very talented for sure, but I wish she'd plug that freakin' guitar of hers in more often...Lovely voice too.
Roy.Scam: What Randy Newman song is "College men from LSU,go in dumb; come out dumb too." from? My sons probably would like to have it.
fw, LSU class of '63
Dr. Mu~ Good words on the Lennon/McCartney contrast and on the musical style shift in "Two Against Nature". I hereby officially rescind the Randy Newman line:
"College men from LSU,
go in dumb; come out dumb too."
This, of course, from the album "Good Old Boys", which I put up there with Countdown to Ecstacy, Nightfly, Magical Mystery Tour, and Blood on the Tracks as perhaps the finest modern era album.
Stevie Dan~ Some of the best funk playing I've ever heard was by Victor Wooten, just jamming on a six string bass in his studio between recording sessions. Check out, if you can, the video on the making of Wooten's album "Ying Yang" (I think). The recording itself sounds good, but the farting around between takes is amazing.
Does Watts 103rd Street Rhythm Band count as funk?
Clas, Howard, etc.~ In my unschooled opinion, "Bad Sneakers" doesn't have a bridge. It has a two part chorus and an instrumental break that's so beautiful that it should have titular claim as a part of the song, but no official bridge.-- "I've Got the News" , however, has two bridges. Just another viewpoint to kick around.
My favorite bridge: The one from "Fixing a Hole" (It really doesn't matter, if I'm wrong I'm right...)
Floridavid~ Good to see you back and getting over. That was a fine eulogy; I know it's brutally difficult to deliver a speech at the funeral of someone that close. I commend you for taking that on. -- And, since you're younger than I, I hereby commision you to speak at my funeral; and please perform not less than two musical numbers of your choice.
And everyone here is invited; dress will be casual, ties optional, stadium seating (no rioting please), after-gr
