Sign In Stranger Archives -- December 2002


User: Floridavid | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: Happy New Year to all the GB Clan.


User: angel | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: Pulled out of lurkdom, by St. Al.... :-)

Same goes. It was actually great to hang with you and yours. Definitely a highlight. Oh, Clas is at the Country House, I do believe.

Speaking of the Damned. They are playing for 4 hours, this Friday. I would love to go, but don't think I will be able to.

Wishing you all good things in the New Year, especially music.


User: Cyn | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: ok..so this year is almost over..I have 20 minutes to reflect..OK, all done reflecting..(hahahah).

Just want to Thank ALL the Steely Friends for helping me "keep it real"..this past year.

Snakie:..Thanks for ALL the encouraging emails, sistah!

Danoooooo:...Well, What can I say, except I never thought we'd meet in Taunton..all our best to you and yours..next time London..on your turf (no pun intended)

Jim# and Mrs#..I love you both dearly...that will never change.

Diffy, Arlean... You guys are de best to meet in chat...and always have been....kisses

and to my long lost cuz.."Midnight"..Sweetie, I'm so verry happy that all things good and bad evened out for you and your beautiful bride. Just look into her lovely face, see her smile...and you'll know what I mean.

Dunc...next time I'm there...I promise!

I sent my Englishman home tonight..(well, I didn't REALLY send him, he had to leave..even tho I threatened to poke him in the ear, so he couldn't fly).Sooooooooooooooooo.........

I WISH ALL THESE GREAT STEELY FOLK A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR..!!!!!

ps...clas... I still love ya too..!


User: Jimbo | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: My hopes for the new year:


No war.

Finally getting a DVD player.

Losing more weight.

New Eagles CD.

Finally coming to New York for summer vacation.

The fall of various teen acts.

No American Idols, especially that creepy Justin guy with the ugly afro.
Makes us black guys look bad.

My Sears stock goes up.

New job.

And..................................A NEW STEELY DAN CD!

HAPPY NEW YEAR!


User: ¦ - Merry New Year | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: My fave 2002 releases:

Jane Monheit - In the Sun
George Harrison - Brainwashed
Norah Jones - Come Away With Me
Neil Finn - One All
Justin Morrell - Plays the Music of Steely Dan

Hon. mention: James Taylor - October Skies

Tejas Special - Dixie Chicks - Home

What the kidz dig:

Foo Fighters, Wilco, Beck

Best single and got no airplay - 4th of July - James Taylor

Worst choice of Single - Paul McCartney - Cashing in on 9/11 with Freedom... instead of Tiny Bubble, the only stellar recording on an inconsistent Driving Rain


User: Moll | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: Jimbo, I didn't catch the interview with Gene Simmons. I knew I'd get pissed off, and purposely avoided listening to it. Life is short. Why waste my precious time on an asshole if I don't have to? IMHO Kiss was a glitter band with makeup and no talent. While I've been told that I have peculiar taste in men, I can't imagine how a woman could find Gene Simmons sexually attractive? But I suppose it's like my Dad used to tell me, " Even a blind hog finds an acorn occasionally".. lol lol.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!
love and peace Moll


User: The Fez | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: It is already 2003 here in Future World ....... and all is well!
Wishing all Danites a Happy, Safe and Successful 2003
May the ways of the Force be with you

....The Fez


User: StAl | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: Hope everyone has a safe and happy new year.

I'd have included John Mayer on my list but it came out in late 2001. Also would have included Tool's latest... Haven't had a chance to listen to George Harrison's new one. Will have to check it out. Did just order Audioslave's new one. I suspect that one should be included. And I completely forgot one...Duh...

Foo Fighters: One By One

This year was fairly uneventful for me. I'd have to say a highlight would have been catching the Growing Up Live show and the trip to San Diego. Havng met W1P, Angel (and family), Craigster, Stevee and Bob Tedde for the first time was a gas.

Here's holding out for more danfestivities in 2003!

Then there were all those "firsts" of my daughter Stella. First steps, first words, first time she said she loved me, first time she puked on me, first time she peed on me, etc, etc.

Dano: Don't know much about PG's work on the new Scorsese (sp?) movie.

Where the hell is Clas?

StAl


User: Midnite Cruiser | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: Wishing everyone a Safe and Happy New Year's Eve tonight....have fun but don't party too much and drive....it would suck to lose someone that way.

Best of the Year in Entertainment (for me):

CD - John Mayer - Room For Squares
Single - Puddle of Mudd - Blurry

Movie Comedy - My Big Fat Greek Wedding
Movie Other - LOTR -The Two Towers (even if they left out Gandalf's meeting with Saruman and postponed the trip to Shelob's Lair)

Television Comedy - Everybody Loves Raymond
Television Drama - Law & Order (the original)

but the real "Best of the Year" goes to rebuilding my relationship with my wife into something that's better than it's ever been....thank God for second chances....and that's just about all I've got to say about that.

party on dudes + dudettes,
MC


User: Duncan | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: Hi everyone..
Just calling in from Scotland to wish everyone a great Hogmany & new year !!!

Having a wonderful time... went to a distillery yesterday!
see you all next year.

db


User: Jimbo | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: My Best CDs of 2002.

Dave Matthews Band-Busted Stuff
Springsteen-The Rising
Jane Monheit-In The Sun
Cassandra Wilson-Belly In The Sun
David Benoit-Fuzzy Logic
The Best of Dianne Reeves
Joyce Cooling-Third Wish
Norah Jones-Come Away With Me

Best moments of 2003:
The Sopranos
Three real heroes as Time's People of the Year. (The Whistleblowers)
Meeting Jane Monheit in person.
Publishing a concert review on the MusicSteps website
Louis Rukeyser (Lou Dobbs, move over for the King.)
Drea DeMatteo hosting an awards show. ;)
Trent Lott paying the price for being a KKK lover.
Cardinal Law resigns

Worst Moments of 2003:
Trent Lott still Senator

Strom Thurman still alive

Bush wants to fight most countries. (Is Tony Blair selling out?)

Found out that Newport, RI is expensive to stay in. That killed my intentions to go to the Newport Jazz Festival.

People Magazine considers Donald Rumsfeld sexy? Aren't we supposed to
be always suspicious of politicians? Huey Long where are you?

Whitney Houston says she drinks and sokes marijuana, but still says she has no problems with substance abuse. Ain't it just like a diva?

Michael Jackson. (Need I go to all the details?)

My Sears stock has fallen.

Oh, and CEOs and executives are nothing but a bunch of greedy self-serving bastards. May they burn in Hell.


User: Randy | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: 
"Best" of 2002 at My House (Some of which were released at the end of 2001):

1. Miles Davis - The Complete 'In A Silent Way' Sessions
2. Johnny Smith - The Sound of the Johnny Smith Guitar (Reissue)
3. George Harrison - Brainwashed
4. Graham Nash - Songs For Survivors
5. Jackson Browne - The Naked Ride Home
6. Wayne Shorter - Footprints Live
7. Tori Amos - Scarlet's Walk
8. Peter Gabriel - Up
9. Dr. John - Creole Moon

Randy
NIGHTFLY62@aol.com


User: Bad Sneakers | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: Cheers Dano I have a few appointments over your way early next year so I will try to catch up ASAP - Meantime Have a stoatir !!! And watch the whisky big man !!!

And - For those of you who always wanted to know but were afraid to ask

The words (with meanings) of Auld lang syne

http://www.hogmanay.net/auldlangsynelyrics.shtml

Ah - Rabbie Burns - there can be only one


User: Dano | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: Just a wee note to say to everyone to have a good Hogmany , take a wee bit of coal and a drink to a party and have a Happy New Year.

StAl , Pat we have the opening of Gangs Of New York here in January , and i was wondering, Have you heard the soundtrack of the film , as its done by U2 and Gabriel?? Any info on that mate!! Cheers Dano.

TWM , Stuck in Edinburgh tonight and missing Glaesga(cousins Birthday)are you down in Georges Square??Will try and call you Wednesday for a bit of First Footin.

Bad Sneakers , Have a good new year , Lang May Your Lumb Reek.

Aus / Malc , all holiday plans now seem to be heading towards visit to NYC , can you guys give me any tips on mid price hotels etc etc.Wifey and wee man want to come over for two weeks and looks like the summer holiday for us now.Any good websites as i may fly over on by Virgin and sort the rest out myself.Thanks Guys.

Have a good New Year to all of you , off on the lash now , well muellered and Dancin The Night Away.

Dano.


User: YGK | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: Well, now, should we start a War on Weather?
Perhaps we could have a Homeland Weatherman.......
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/reuters/asia-138866.html

Anyway, everything aside, here's to wishing everyone here a wonderful and happy New Year!
All to best for 2003......

ygk


User: TBC | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: CDs of the year 2002

Led Zeppelin - Physical graffiti
Peter Gabriel - Up
Chillis - By the way
Foo Fighters - One by one
Badly drawn boy - Have you fed the fish ?
Queens of the stone age - songs for the deaf
Las Ketchup - the ketchup song
anything by Frank Zappa
that eminem CD that St Al loves

Best CD of 2003 ? - Steely Dan play the music of Nirvana with Chuck Rainey and Bernard Purdie on all instruments / arrangements / chord progressions and bass trombone, George Clooney on vocals and Winona Ryder stealing the show (Don and Walt to do nothing at all as they can't really play anyway)

Best TV - Still the Sopranos

Best tour - Rings aroung the world - Super furry animals (of course)

Happy Hogmanay - The best day of the year to be Scottish (tomorrow is another matter :-) )


User: Jimbo | Month: 11 | Day: 31

Message: Moll- Speaking of NPR, did you happen to catch that repeat of the Gene Simmons interview on Fresh Aire? He was trying to piss off Terry Gross by putting down her and NPR for being boring and not having enough spice.

No wonder minus the makeup he's still a monster. Now I like Kiss' music, but Gene seemed to be the demon incarnate in that interview. Kudos to Terry for standing up to that sex starved bigot. Maybe he should've drank a big Black Cow and got outta there.

THANK GOD FOR NPR!


User: Moll | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: Tones, that's why I just listen to NPR......
BB, I'll toast the New Year to you bud! Switching to Johnny Walker Red though. I've been reading a book of poetry titled "Nine Horses: Poems" by Billy Collins. I think you'd enjoy it. *kisses and hugs*


User: t | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: Ok... *now* I'm worried...

Clearchannel buys up all the regular broadcast stations, turns them all to crap, then offers the "alternative" at a premium. AND they still get commercial revenue.

Meanwhile they ban Tom Petty's new album because he's singing about that very thing.

Pass the deludin...


User: the dog star | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: Jimbo,
Good thoughts on satellte radio..having worked for Sirius last year
the concept and music were good but 9/11 finished us off as hosts last
spring..along with greed at the top..XM will most likely in the future
be purchased by clear channle..watch for it.
but it gave this musicologist one last shot for an ol' guy"


bluz


User: t | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: St. Al - that's ok... I know by "Eminem" you meant to type "George Harrison"... lol!

Jimbo - Thanks for the info. I'm still not sure I trust satellite radio, mostly because they rolled it out at the same time independent internet radio broadcasters were being squashed by the FCC. The timing was a little too convenient to be coincidence to me...

Btw, I like the new Shania cd... of course I threw the cd away and just kept the cover...

tnz


User: Jimbo | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: Tones- I forgot one other thing. Satellite Radio is meant to give you more alternatives and more choices in terms of music and different styles.

EXAMPLES
Album Cuts, for people who know there's more to Van Morrison than "Brown Eyed-Girl" and "Moondance".

Different styles of jazz, blues, Latin, rock, country(including bluegrass),classical, etc.

Yes, there is sponsorship for the XM and Sirius stations, but only a third of the XM stations are commercial-free. And, I even admit, Clear Channel, the Satan of radio programming, has a share in XM too. But you
can get any selection that you want. Plus, if you drive across the country, you won't have to worry about stations changing. You can listen to Album Cuts from New Jersey to Idaho. If Clear Channel, takes more than its' share, then we can panic.

Hope that calms any worries about the state of music. I'm not optimistic 100% Just maybe 60%. But let's hope that like the early 60's (after
Buddy Holly, before Beatles), the crap we hear on radio will be disposable
and forgetful. OK? OK!



User: Jimbo | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: Tones- Thanks. I stand corrected. Those artists you mentioned do qualify
in the country category. I even forgot to mention the Dixie Chicks. Their new one is far better than first two releases. A lot of downhome bluegrass, plus a cover of a Stevie Nicks classic makes "Home" worth buying. So I do take back about a lack of soulful country singers.
As a matter of fact, there was a review by a local paper on Shania's
Cd. It said it all. That the Cd was more about making money than it was about expressing your art in a human way.

In defense of Norah, though, I have to say that in terms of commercial
exposure, she hasn't had much on any of the local stations I listen to.
Yes, she sold two million records, but she has had none of the Britney
or Ashanti type success. As long as it was hard work, plus the fact that she can play piano as well as write (which she should do more of), Norah, regardless of what opinion states, should be commended for just being herself.

Later tonight, I'll give out my views of what the best and worst of this year was. Let see what your's are.


User: StAl | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: 2002 just wouldn't be complete without a list. Here's mine...

Top 5 CD's of 2002:

1. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot -- Wilco
2. Up -- Peter Gabriel
3. When I was Cruel -- Elvis Costello
4. Sea Change -- Beck
5. The Eminem Show -- Eminem

That's right, I chose Eminem. I'll get it out of the way right now... BITE ME.

Tones: I agree on Norah Jones. Definitely a talent but doesn't do a darned thing for me. I've always wondered why the RLJ connection was never discussed? I've tried to like her too, especially considering how much everyone else on this board does. They play the living SHIT out of her on KMTT and it's starting to drive me nuts...

K of the world: I forgot to mention in my last post. Do yourself a favor by masking your e-mail address when you post it in the e-mail field. Otherwise you're going to receive more SPAM than you want. I suspect this might already be happening.

This goes for everyone. When you post a legitimate e-mail address into that field you make available your address to automated SPAM harvest bots. I always post my address as patDISCARD@banyantrees.net. Obviously you should "discard" the DISCARD when sending me mail. If you send it to patDISCARD@banyantrees.net it will bounce -- just like all that SPAM does. Make sense? This is a good rule of thumb when posting to ANY Internet forum.

StAl


User: tones | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: Jimbo - just off the top of my head: Emmylou Harris, Alison Krause, um... Dollywood aside, Ms. Parton has an amazing voice and impeccable technique, and her choice in material has gotten imeasurably better in the last few years. And there are some outstanding younger women country singers like Gillian Welch (and I'd throw Beth Orton in there too though she's technically "prog-folk" - a catagory I just made up) who are outstanding, but it may be too early to tell if they rank among the likes of Patsy Cline. But generally I agree, there's been a lot of good female country songwriters (like Rosanne Cash, Ms. Welch, Lucinda Williams...) but not a lot of great singers. K.D. Lang is another one that comes to mind, but she's not just a country/folk singer anymore...

Though I can see she has talent, I'm not a big Norah Jones fan. I'm surprised nobody mentions how much she sounds like Rickie Lee. I put on Pop Pop the other day and it blew me away all over again, and it's not that far from Norah Jones to my ears. Imho, that cd and It's Like This (and Joni's new cd too) should have gotten as much or more attention than Ms. Jones' cd has gotten but they haven't. Could it be because she's on Blue Note (in other words, "serious" music)? Could it be because she's cute? Or could it be because Arif Mardin's name is on the cd and that means we're *supposed* to like it, and therefore it rates the all the marketing force and product placement (as in J-lo's new movie) Capitol/Blue Note can muster while other artists, up-and-coming and established alike, struggle to have their albums heard at all? I don't mean to hold it against Ms. Jones, but major label/music biz politics suck. She'll find out when the label tries to force her to keep rewriting "Don't Know Why" over and over again until she's too "mature" to promote...

Btw... isn't satellite radio just another form of corporate radio? Not to bum anybody out... lol...

Jeez... I'm such a cynical bastard...

Happy New One everybody!

t


User: StAl | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: 
YGK: I don't read Drudge. He's a hack. I do read the links he gathers to other places of information. Just want to clarify.

W1P: I was successful in getting his gig some airtime on KMTT. However, I regret to say I cannot attend. That is, unless someone magically steps in as a babysitter for the evening.

K of the world: Not sure why you keep getting that error? Don't know of anyone else complaining of this problem (consistently) and there have been over 25000 posts to this GB since I installed this script. Only thing I can suggest is to upgrade your web browser. You're using IE Version 5.0 which, I believe, goes back to 1999...

StAl


User: k of world, still being picked on regarding required fields business more than other people.... | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: altamira....... i guess i'm supposed to have a document of some kind to 'paste' this thing into. This seems to be what is tripping me up. Can I just somehow declare this to be a "file" somehow, and preserve it? Whatever's easier on one's brain would be best, in my case.


User: W1P | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: St. Al -- ready for Keneally NYE? Familiar with Kicking Harold? http://www.kickingharold.com


User: Jimbo | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: YGK- Norah Jones is not a country singer. If she was a country singer, she would have sung in high volume and express only her art for the money
just like Faith Hill or Shania Twain. Her music is primarily jazz, but she is also into other forms of music. The fact that she covered a Hank WIlliams tune shouldn't worry anyone, except a few jazz purists. I can assure you that there are no signs at the moment of any good ole' boys
or girls on Blue Note. If there was, true culture would be dead. After all, aside from Charley Pride, how many current country artists are African-American?

Except for Mary Chapin Carpenter, there hasn't been a truly talented female country singer this side of Patsy Cline for awhile. If Norah Jones was a country singer, she would have ranked up there with Darden Smith, Ryan Adams, and Steve Earle as one of the few alternative country singers who wouldn't be accepted by the establishment known as the
record industry.

Reading in a recent issue of Jazziz magazine, Norah had a producer in Nashville who was making her recordings sound too country and she didn't like it. so, she switched producers and got the one who did most of the work-Arif Marden.

As my local record store suggests, Norah is still in the Jazz section. So with all due respect, I have to disagree with the assumption of the genre that Norah plays. However, if you do find out that a country singer wants to get on a jazz label, let me know, and well run em' outta there. Okay? OKAY!

ta-ta.


User: YGK | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: Correction: 1st para: that would be "car" commercial


User: YGK | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: St. Al: so you're reading Drudge too? That's just too much - is that really a 'talent'? So where's the performance, and where's the fricking art? No where, mon frere.........
This world, this country, is/has becoming/become so friggin gentrified and just plain flat and boring as hell. I was switching channels over the last week or so, and if I see one more card commercial, I'm gonna pop.

I'm just very pissed. I honestly have begun to seriously think that the 'formula' is winning - people don't challenge, just accept the garbage the media throws down - there is little, if any, quality being produced. Is Norah Jones really all that?
Why does a primarily country singer get put on Blue Note? Is Bruce Lundvaal (sp?) just making up for a singer he didn't sign years ago?
Are we really that scared?

Where is the new and the bold? Who's making the new frontier?
And really, Santa who? puhleeze......
and this job plainly sux the big one........can't stand this corporate culture - the ultimate oxymoron.

Yeah, yeah, I'm perhaps a bit bitter and jaded, but I don't like what I see here in the sitay, and then I realize that THIS is at least progressive compared with most of the country, and then I get REAL depressed.......

BTW - New CORE Disc looks like February release for logistical/financial reasons.....we're more than half mixed - we all need to get it out, runs approx 68 mins........the band is going through some personal crises and are literaly trying to sort this whole damn NYC/USA approach to life and living......and Pat, I will dump some stuff over soon.........delays, delays......etc.
Someday I may write about the truth and the things we see - the stuff that perhaps many of you would find horrendous.......or something.

The Sub-Culture - of which I am a part - is having to increasingly be hidden.......we feel like the New Communists......arrrrrrrrrrgh!

Anyway, back to the side of living most dangerously..........the Word from NYC to pop out shortly........

Have a great new year all!

ygk


User: Jimbo | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: St. Al.- A guy who eats babies for art? First, a racist senator who's beloved by the Oak Ridge Boys, then some assholes decide to clone someone,
now this. AND HE'S A CHRISTIAN?


User: Jimbo | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: St. Al- Lucky you. Satellite Radio. Sounds like commercial corporate radio is on step closer to being out of existence. Of course that's a million steps away, but congratulations. I guess you might have left Santa something better than the milk and cookies.

Me, I got the usual: clothes, underwear (very important), but I also got a
George Foreman grill :) It rules! I've cooked chicken and planning on fish this week. I hardly eat red meat, so burgers are only on occasion.

PIANO JAZZ NEWS- Norah Jones will be on Piano Jazz on the week of January 11-18 on NPR. Plus, on the Piano Jazz website: www.pianojazz.org, there is an announcement on the airing of Steely Dan's appearance on the show.

On my station WDUQ, in Pittsburgh, the Dan episode will be airing on February 15th, MY BIRTHDAY!!!!! That is too cool. Dag, my birthday
is already looking good. Now if they would just mention release date of new CD and tour dates.

Have to go now, but there's a new topic I hope to bring up later.

See Ya!


User: StAlphonzo | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: And the envelope is pushed even farther...

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,866514,00.html

What next?

So was Santa good to everyone? I got a set of All Clad pots/pans and one of them new-fangled XM Satellite radios. The "Deep Cuts" channel plays a buttload of Steely Dan, and not Rikki either. Pretty cool stuff.

I'm excited about the new band Audioslave. From the ashes of Rage Against The Machine with Chris [how-the-hell-does-hit-those-notes] Cornell on vocals.


User: Handbook For The Recently Deceased | Month: 11 | Day: 30

Message: Open up you dead people!

You see Lydia, if you don't stick up for yourself, then people
living or dead will walk all over you!


User: post | Month: 11 | Day: 29

Message: um..


User: Midnite Cruiser | Month: 11 | Day: 29

Message: Altamira....yes, we still have our six kitties....they're all doing well....it's great to see you taking care of so many that really need it....hope you still get your Abby one of these days.

a photo from last week....the only green I could find was in a stream that leads to the Dan River....thought it made a nice abstract....follow the link or click on the Homepage link at the top of this post.

http://users.sitestar.net/~jtalbott/Stream.jpg

maybe some news on "The Next One" this week....?


User: Beerberian | Month: 11 | Day: 28

Message: Moll; Hoist one for me doll ...

Bluz; am awaitin the tale


User: the week that was, in musical matters..... | Month: 11 | Day: 28

Message: Breakups... Debuts... and a Few Firearms

This is the week that was in matters musical...

1929, bluesman Blind Lemon Jefferson dies in Chicago...the exact date and circumstances have
never been established but two legends refer to a blizzard...one story has the famous bluesman
freezing to death on the street...in the other, he dies of a heart attack in the back of a car and
is abandoned by his driver...

1961, The Beach Boys make their live debut under that name at the Ritchie Valens Memorial
Concert in Long Beach, California...previously, they had gone under several names including The
Pendletones, Kenny & The Kadets, and Carl And The Passions...

1963, The Animals perform their first radio broadcast on the BBC show "Saturday Club"...also in
1963, The Weavers play their last concert in Chicago...1964, The Supremes make their first
appearance on the Ed Sullivan Show...

1967, David Bowie makes his debut with the Lindsay Kemp mime troup in "Pierrot In Turquoise" at
the Oxford New Theatre ...

1968, Led Zeppelin gives its U.S. debut performance in Boston and the Miami Pop Festival
features performances by Procol Harum, Chuck Berry, Fleetwood Mac, and Canned Heat...

1976, The Cars give their debut performance at Pease Air Force Base in Portsmouth, New
Hampshire...

1977, Harlem's Apollo Theater re-opens...

1979, Jimmy Crespo replaces Joe Perry in Aerosmith...also in 1979, Emerson, Lake & Palmer
announce that they've split up...

1982, Jamaica issues a Bob Marley commemorative stamp...

1984, Def Leppard drummer, Rick Allen, is involved in a car crash in which one of his arms is so
badly damaged it has to be amputated, but he continues to play drums for the band ...

1986, guests Gary Hart and Donna Rice meet each other at Don Henley's birthday party...

1992, Harry Connick Jr. is arrested at Kennedy Airport when guards discover a 9mm in his
carry-on...

1999, Sean "Puffy" Combs is arrested for criminal possession of a weapon... a gun is found in his
vehicle after he leaves a New York club where three people are shot...Jennifer Lopez is with him
at the time of his arrest but is released after questioning...

1999, former Beatle George Harrison is stabbed four times in the chest during an attempted
robbery at his home near London...he and wife Olivia struggle with the intruder and are able to
subdue him until police arrive...

2000, 81-year-old Kitty Wells performs her farewell show in Nashville...

and that was the week that was.

Birthdays

December 25: Cab Calloway (1907), Tony Martin (1913), Little Richard born Richard Penniman
(1932), O'Kelly Isley of The Isley Brothers (1937), Fairport Convention's Trevor Lucas (1943),
Canned Heat's Henry Vestine (1944), Noel Redding of Jimi Hendrix Experience (1945), Jimmy
Buffett (1946), Barbara Mandrell (1948), UB40's Robin Campbell (1954), Annie Lennox (1954),
The Pogues' Shane MacGowan (1957)

December 26: Steve Allen (1921), Abdul "Duke" Fakir of The Four Tops (1935), Phil Spector
(1940), Lars Ulrich of Metallica (1963)

December 27: Marlene Dietrich (1901), Oscar Levant (1906), guitarist Scotty Moore (1931),
Leslie McGuire of Gerry and the Pacemakers (1941), Mike Pinder of The Moody Blues (1942), The
Animals' Dave Rowberry (1943), Mick Jones of Foreigner (1944), Larry Byrom of Steppenwolf
(1948), David Knopfler of Dire Straits (1952), Karla Bonoff (1952)

December 28: jazz pianist Earl "Fatha" Hines (1903), Roebuck "Pop" Staples of The Staple
Singers (1915), Johnny Otis (1921), Charles Neville of The Neville Brothers (1938), Edgar Winter
(1946)

December 29: Pablo Casals (1876), Ray Thomas of The Moody Blues (1942), Marianne Faithfull
(1946), Cozy Powell of the Jeff Beck Group (1947), singer Yvonne Elliman (1951)

December 30: Bo Diddley born Otha Ellis Bates (1928), session picker Red Rhodes (1930),
Skeeter Davis born Mary Pennick (1931), rockabilly star Dorsey Burnett (1932), singer/songwriter
John Hartford (1937), Paul Stookey of Peter, Paul and Mary (1937), Del Shannon born Charles
Westover (1939), Michael Nesmith of the Monkees (1942), Davy Jones of the Monkees (1945),
Jeff Lynne of ELO and The Traveling Wilburys (1947), Alex Chilton of The Box Tops (1950)

December 31: composer Jule Styne (1905), folk singer Odetta Holmes (1930), Andy Summers of
The Police (1942), John Denver born John Deutschendorf (1943), Pete Quaife of The Kinks
(1943, or 12/27), Patti Smith (1946), Burton Cummings of The Guess Who (1947), Donna
Summer born LaDonna Gaines (1948), Tom Hamilton of Aerosmith (1951), George Thorogood
(1952), Scott Ian of Anthrax (1963), Joe McIntyre of New Kids on the Block (1972)

Departures

December 25: Curtis Mayfield (1999), Love's Bryan MacLean (1998), blues guitarist Eddie Taylor
(1981)

December 27: Music mogul and founder of Chance Records, Ewart G. Abner (1997), Hoagy
Carmichael (1981)

December 28: Dennis Wilson (1983), Freddie King (1976)

December 29: conductor Takashi Asahina (2001), French singer/songwriter Mireille (1996), Tim
Hardin (1980)

December 30: longtime member of The Drifters Johnny Moore (1998), Broadway composer
Richard Rodgers (1979)

December 31: guitarist Eddie Shaver (2000), Floyd Cramer (1997), Ricky Nelson (1985),
bluesman Robert Pete Williams (1980), R&B writer/producer Bert Berns


User: Moll | Month: 11 | Day: 27

Message: Dream on Wild Bill.....How about a Steely Men calender? More fitting don't ya think?
AltaMira, people just know I have a soft spot for children and animals. I have a hard time saying no to strays ect... Which if I think about it, kinda explains my affection for Bill... lol lol
BB, sorry I missed you bud. Got that Maker's Mark out in your honor *wink*


User: Bill | Month: 11 | Day: 27

Message: After consulting with a few of the head honcho's of the Dan world,
who shall remain nameless, a consensus was reached concerning what
to do while awaiting the release of the next Steely Dan CD.

After much haggling and give-and take it was agreed to that we should
concentrate on the following activity in order to keep our minds
occupied during the long wait. So without further ado we hereby unviel
the next phase of our Steely Dan activities program with the...


******************** WOMEN OF STEELY DAN CALENDAR! ******************


That's right ladies! It's the Women Of Steely Dan Calendar, and YOU
can be part of it! Just send your most revealing photos along with
a stamped and self-addressed envelope to...


WOMEN OF STEELY DAN CALENDAR
Women's Activities Program
C/0 Steely Dan Wet T-shirt Committee
New York, New York 11001


Based on our extensive research, the WOMEN OF STEELY DAN CALENDAR
promises to be one of the most successful activities to date!
So get your photos in today and don't forget to include your birth
month so that you can be accurately represented!
MAKE A STAND FOR STEELY DAN!!


User: Moll | Month: 11 | Day: 27

Message: Elmer singing " Do It Again" would be funny...... And then there's "Fever" lol lol
Jaz, have you gone off with Starland Vocal Band again? Geez, you groupies! First Wild Bill abandons me and now you....hehehe No wonder I left you guys for the Viking. Come back to us bud.


User: Altamira | Month: 11 | Day: 27

Message: Moll--That's great, having all those different species. When I was growing up, we had guinea pigs, gerbils, mice, rats, fish, a parakeet, dogs, cats, and horses (although not all at once!). I now find it easier to concentrate on one species, but I miss the variety.

Beerberian--Thank you, and the same to you. I had to work Thursday also; I'm considered an essential worker, even though I'm a writer, not a train or bus operator. Your cats have great names. I have friends who have English cocker spaniels, given to them by the breeder because the dogs have health problems. For years they had an Albert and a Victoria, but last year Albert died of stomach cancer, so now they have a puppy named Albert, Bertie for short.

King of the World--I'm sorry. I'll explain it in a little more detail: Place the cursor at the beginning of the document you want to copy. Click the left button on the mouse and move the mouse to the end of what you want to copy to highlight it. Then hold down the "control (Ctrl)" key and press the "C" key. Then place the cursor where you want what you've copied to go, hold down the "control" key, and press the "V" key to paste the text into the document. Good luck with the Web site!


User: jim | Month: 11 | Day: 27

Message: M¦;
I'd top that with Janet Jackson's "What Have You Done For Me Lately" while doing Elmer Fudd...."Whadt Halve y¦ dun fo me whaitwee Whoo-whooo-whooooooo-ya"


User: king of the world | Month: 11 | Day: 27

Message: Altamira--- I'm just confining myself to one tiny issue for now, due to eyes--- regarding your instructions on lifting text... thanks, but as I'm new to all this, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Strangely enough, I've got to manage to do my own site somehow, where I go into the broader medical situation, while being severely limited in what information I'm able to take in, and retain.


User: lp | Month: 11 | Day: 27

Message: gees, mu, don't say helicopter, reminds me of swifty days in massachusetts - nope, i'll get me own private contractor - lol - but it was an emergency yesterday

LOL

off to syracuse for the week next week, may not be online for a while


User: Moll | Month: 11 | Day: 27

Message: BB, thanks....but I still couldn't send him or Fife an e-greeting because I lost their addresses. I wanted to wish both of them a Merry Christmas. Fife was going to give me a recipe for a triffle.
Duncan, nice to see you again. I love talking music and art with you. I'm working in mosaic at the moment, incorporating my glass and painting. I figured it was a good way to use up the bits and bobs of glass chips. Hope you'll check out Tim Wilson, he makes me laugh until my sides hurt.
Deckard, umm Panties and fudge.. Lol Lol That ought to raise the customs guy's eyebrow. You're too funny..
My Viking Warrior, Missing you something fierce *kisses~~~~~~~~*


User: Beerberian doin his 9 - 5 | Month: 11 | Day: 27

Message: GB; Only me @ work then ?????? still only one day, then off 'til next Thursday ......got 3 Patti Griffin CD's for chrimble ....Lovely Stuff !!! anybody else know/love her ?

Moll; Deacon is from Barcelona ....I think - friend of bluz, and also a Ms Tzuke fan ....hey bluz Tonight right ?

Altamira; Cat people - always the kindest lol - we only have two now Albert & Victoria ....Happy Miaow Year to ya ....


User: Moll | Month: 11 | Day: 26

Message: Altamira, No worries.. The person from Chat calls himself Deacon as well. He is from Spain (or at least claims to be) He seems very literate and can speak/type Spanish fluently... While he too seems to be a very nice person, I don't think anyone will get you guys confused.. *wink* I have 4 cats. All but one were strays. I also have a dog that we adopted after a friend passed away. We have a parrot, burro, minature goat and two bunnies as well. All but the parrot were reject pets from others, presented to me as "gifts".. I'm thinking of opening my very own Zoo soon.. lol Re: Shaming- it is a shame that others feel compelled to control the actions of others. Personally, it's a full time endeavor for me to keep myself right with God. I don't presume to know how others should live.
Dr Mu, I loved the card. I knew from your posts that you had a great sense of humor. Thanks! It made my day.
Drew, change of plans... The Dragon-man will be with me. So you are worrying needlessly. Please get in touch before you leave.


User: ¦ | Month: 11 | Day: 26

Message: ...but nothing beats singing David Bowie's "Let's Dance" while doing Elmer Fudd...


User: ¦ - kids if you want some fun... | Month: 11 | Day: 26

Message: ...sing New Frontier doing a Bob Dylan impression...very amusing...or i'm easily entertained


lp: The key is to make a deal with the plowers by making a local Dunkin' Donuts their transportation "hub"...where's a black helicopter when you need one?


User: Altamira | Month: 11 | Day: 26

Message: Whoops! Make that nine. I've just learned that I'm getting another foster cat tonight (three of my four foster cats have died this year, two of the feline leukemia virus and one of lung cancer, so I had wanted to take a break from fostering until I recovered emotionally, but this cat is sleeping on a box on a front porch in a dense neighborhood near two main streets, so she needs a new home right away). Anyway, she's a very friendly black shorthaired cat with white markings--if any of you in the Baltimore-Washington-Richmond area might be interested in adopting her, please let me know (I'll know more about her health after I take her to the vet tomorrow night).


User: Altamira | Month: 11 | Day: 26

Message: Midnite,

I hope your cats are doing well. Since I bought the house last year, I've been able to expand my cat population; I'm now up to eight. Last year I adopted two formerly feral brown tabby males, Ben and Jivati, from a no-kill shelter near Orange, Virginia, called Rikki's Refuge (apparently the founder must have been a Dan fan to name the shelter's namesake Rikki). Early this year, I trapped a smoke tabby (pale gray base, dark brown tips--she looks like a dark brown cat with pale stripes on her neck and head) female, Visigoth, from a feral colony near where I live. She was about six months old, according to the colony manager, and quite friendly for a cat who was born in a feral colony--she would sometimes let the people who fed her pet her. All three are extremely affectionate.

Gina,

Hey! Good to see you here.

King of the World,

Oh, I plan to be around here for a long time! The problem with religious shaming is that members of some religions sometimes shame people for things that are not intrinsically wrong (I know this from personal experience), potentially creating a repressive society. It's certainly good to have a moral code, however, as long as one doesn't force it on other people. At the party yesterday (I'm eating some leftover salad from it as I write), we watched a movie, Chocolat, that dealt with this theme in an entertaining way. You can save text from the GB by going back to the post and cutting and pasting the text into another format--I just tried it with WordPerfect; you get hypertext coding, but you can easily remove that.

Moll,

There's another Altamira? Well, if she only participates on Chat (which I can't do because of software incompatibility), then there shouldn't be much confusion. But if people think it's going to be a problem, I could change my name to, say, Artemis, which sounds sort of similar. (By the way, if anyone ever wants my e-mail address, you can just click on the word "e-mail" in the header.)


User: lp | Month: 11 | Day: 26

Message: well, a call to the dpw director to plow me out brought me to work today - 18 inches on the island, not bad, not bad... i need to set up a contract for plowing i guess, great planning, huh? - the morning has brought in all departments ribbing me for my poor planning, yes, very funny...

we had the local bagel nazi, agnes, for christmas dinner - it was lovely - her stories to tell were fabulous - i knew she had alot to her that you would never see at the surface - one of her best friends is dr benjamin spock's sister, had a great time listening to stories about her - agnes also chronicled her drive cross-country and gave me some good dirt on the locals in town - all done with grace and humility - shows when you make the effort to share alot comes back to you - never pass the opportunity to take a new person on

the children won the war and we had ham, mashed potato (not from a box, come on people!), and peas for christmas eve dinner

christmas dinner was slightly modified - we added mushrooms cooked in vermouth and a salad with homemade bleu cheese viniagrette - agnes came with homemade dinner rolls and a spongecake with chocolate frosting with cherry and apricot in between layers, as well as a french burgundy with smartly replaced the beaujolais i had originally planned


User: Moll | Month: 11 | Day: 26

Message: Hi everyone! I hope you had a wonderful Christmas.
Altamira, are you the Deacon/Altamira that I've spoken with in Chat? The person who types such beautiful Spanish? I lost your address. I wanted to send you a Christmas e-greeting! But alas, my organizational skills are sadly lacking at times. Please give me your address again. Mine is included in the e-mail thingy at top.
Clas, Your e-greetings keep bouncing. Yes, I sent them to address on Steely Knives....lol lol Don't worry, even though you are my long lost half-brother, I'm not a stalker or anything. (except with Wild Bill...hehehe) Please send me your address.
King of World, thanks bud...It's hard not to sound cheezy with Seanonal Greetings. I tend to view my relationship with God as very personal. I'm not much on conventional religions. (too many rules *wink*) I think of a line in a John Hiatt song; "We can live in fear, or act out of hope". Corny as it sounds, I think that's true. I choose hope.Once I lived with a consuming rage and hatred. Revenge was my religion and death seemed to be a welcome release. My relationship with God and experiening his love, changed me. I hope you find comfort one day as well. Life is a spiritual journey. We all have to find our own paths...Still, I think the end destination is the same for all of us whatever roads we take.
Fife, I lost your e-mail address as well. It was on same sheet of paper as Altamira's. Sorry... Talk soon?!!!!!


User: king of the world | Month: 11 | Day: 25

Message: Molly... didn't mean to trample on your sincere Xmas words, which were fairly good ones actually. It's rare to hear anything on that Birth which isn't either shallowly sentimental, or stern and prosletizing. Very spare language, and not 'intrusive' I guess. I don't know what the hell I'm saying, today. Anyway, if I kind of liked it, that's saying something.

They're barking up the wrong tree in my case, but I respect a devout believer a lot more than the usual unbeliever these days who only cares about his own immediate, shallow needs and what he can touch, see and consume. I'd almost rather we still had the kind of religious 'shaming' we used to have, instead of the overall sense we get in the society now, that basically nothing matters.

(I'm not even sure the Mid-East stuff these days is even about religion, but just "us" and "them".)

Thanks for remarks, "t" and El Supremo. That thing was almost 20 years old, but I hoped it still held up. I wish i could figure out how to lift the text and store it, since I can't afford to post long items like that often (eye thing). Am I rambling? Very weird frame o' mind now-- partially the holiday I'm sure.

Altamira--- stay around, why don't you?


User: Jimbo | Month: 11 | Day: 25

Message: Happy Holidays to all.

Peace and good will to all. We'll need that sooner or later.
Hopefully sooner.


User: ps | Month: 11 | Day: 25

Message: wow, and welcome back Altamira!!!!!!!!!!

Banyan Tree for Alta Bow,
G.


User: Gina | Month: 11 | Day: 25

Message: Happy and peaceful holidays everyone!


User:  | Month: 11 | Day: 25

Message: Non subject) contribution person: Mongoose contribution day: December 25th (water) o'clock of 12 39 minutes 13 second

Information of the new work the everyday way everyday of check with the net. Suddenly, it catches whether, with, if you think, FM time permits, hearing, it increases, but as for February 19th sale the white paper we would like to see somehow, don't you think? is, (pain). Temporarily it receives order < presently it is not accepted even with the net * shop, the fact of the matter where the place where it becomes with > comes out. Is the situation which you have expected, but it cannot hide the shock. Not to be wrong it appears in the é_ and next year however it is probably will be, the âäâLâéâL without being able to point excessively, (laughing).

So if you say, the nightfly riding the Lima star which now is in the booklet of the digital Lima star board special edition which some days ago receives with the tower * record as the name board which is not done, it increased. So, is, don't you think? -. Because the album of the SD of seventies, as for sound at all is better to tune and performance being highest don't you think? Sound quality what of rhythm party the field board is not good excessively, however it is probably will be, because (is personal opinion but), the dynamic * range changes rather with the Lima star ring, don't you think? We would like to hear quickly, is. If possible, the paper âWâââP calling.


User: Bill | Month: 11 | Day: 25

Message: I'd like to send warm holiday greetings to all of the following people...


Merry Christmas! To all the people cut me off in traffic while on your
way to the mall. Thank God that's over.

Happy Kwanza! To the Kwanzans.

Happy Bhuddah! To the Zen dudes.

Happy Winter Solstice! To Carl Sagan wherever you are...


And finally...,

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO THE OFF-KILTER FANS OF STEELY DAN!
YOU MAKE THE CYBERWORLD ROCK!
(ok, so maybe I got a little carried away with the Happy Bhudda thing...)


User: Paige | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Merry Christmas to you all.

-Paige


User: Santa | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: This is a great Christmas! My wife got me the Nitefly in DTS 5.1 It is freaking amazing! It sounds awesome.

and to all...a good night.


User: angel | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Finally had 2 free seconds to send holiday wishes out. May good music be found under your trees.

St. Al: Made my "gravy" last night. Calamari dinner tonight. Yum.

Midnight Crusier: Watch out, I love your cat. A real cutie.
What a great shot, too.

Aussie: Thanks to the internet, I now know what Pasteles de Yucca is. Sort of like a tamale, with yucca for masa. Your mom deserves a metal, working on them for 12 hours.

So, LP: Did the kids win? :-)


User: ¦ - pass me a bagel and a red suit | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: StAl: That's Sandy, the bronco-riding squirrel...don't messssss wi' Texas....Ever see the episode where they follow Sandy to dry land on a dare and get attacked a seagull?...a hoot...my kids ARE Sponge Bob & Patrick


User: Aussie | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Add to the list of disques being heard: El Gran Combo Numero 5; Arreglos Rafael Ithier, Cantan: Andy Montanez y Charlie Aponte Rico Records 1990

Aus


User: W1P | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Happy Holidays all! Shine On!


User: Aussie | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Merry Christmas! Just popped my head in to wish everyone a happy and healthy Christmas.

In the oven now: TWO roast porks; A caldron of saffron infused rice with pigeon peas, a huge bowlfull of Yucca steeping in fresh ground garlic and extra virgin olive oil.
In the belly while we waited: Pasteles de Yucca (these took my mother almost twelve full hours to make from scratch) and crab meat empanadas
Nouveau Villages Beaujolais (deelish), Istara cheese with Copiapo Valley red seedless grapes and clementines.

Playing now, and in no particular order in the dining room stereo:
1. Willie Colon: Asalto Navidenyo; canta Hector Lavoe Fania Records 1972
2. Willie Colon: Asalto Navidenyo vol.II; Canta Hector Lavoe con Yomo Toro Fania Records 1973
3. Felipe "La Voz" Rodriguez: Los Reyes no Llegaron; 20 exitos Navidenos; DiscoHit de Puerto Rico productions, year not available.
4. The Nutcracker
5. Vince Guaraldi Trio- Holiday Favourites
6. Bing Crosby Christmas
7. Frank Sinatra Christmas Gift Collection Dejavu Records (Italy- 1992)
8. Elvis sings The Wonderful World of Christmas RCA records 1971
9. Perry Como- The Perry Como Christmas Album RCA records

Christmas tree (douglas fir) in the living room in full blaze and bulging with wrapped gifts underneath...

Santa's coming soon!

Peace and Love!

Aus


User: Midnite Cruiser | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all the good folks of the GB.

Altamira....it's good to see you again....hope you'll hang out with us as "the next one" is released....do you still have your kitties with you?

a shot of Deacon Blues on the way out....:

http://users.sitestar.net/~jtalbott/DeaconProfile.jpg


User: Altamira | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: King of World,

Mmm, that's rough. But sometimes families just aren't worth thinking about, ever; I know about that. I liked what you wrote about art and "Caves of Altamira." I read an article a few years ago about the cave paintings in Lisieux (is that right?); they are beautiful and highly sophisticated; not primitive art at all in stylistic terms, even though they are primitive in the sense of being near the beginning of art history. I don't really have any cool associations with the song; I just liked the name and like the song. But "Royal Scam" was the first Steely Dan album I owned, so I have a particular fondness about the songs on that album.

St. Al,

Thank you. It's good to be here again.


User: gypsyqueeninafairytale | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: StAl-the 80s did NOT suck at least not the music:
PRINCE
KATE BUSH
TEENA MARIE

look 'em up..


User: Moll | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Born in a stable
the lamb of God came
Bringing to earth
God's rule and reign
The God who dwelt among us
Can now dwell within us.
May the Birth of the Christ child fill you with wonder and peace
Merry Christmas

Love Molly


User: king of world | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Altamira-- thanks. Though I had to get out, it's not so much 'freedom' as exile, though, since I'm in a highly disempowered state to try to find solutions for the medical thing. I know now that I couldn't ever have gotten real help and cooperation from that twisted wreckage of a paternal unit, but now I KNOW I'm without family resources, now that I'm without family. For years I had to hope I'd get him to listen. It's nice to think of family around holiday time, isn't it?

Just to abruptly shift gears... in art history I was surprised to find they were teaching us to respect cave paintings as true art, and the beginnings of art. So, I hear "Caves Of Altamira" as a sort of tribute to the whole idea of art, and the joy of it. Any cool associations for you, with that song?


User: StAl | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Merry Holidays to all my friends on the guestbook. You to Bill...

Altimira: Damn good to see you around these parts again.

Mu: I was watching an episode of Spongebob Squarepants last night and thought of you. The show title was called "Texas." Check it out if you can.

LP: I made the yummy Red Gravy last Saturday. Twas a BIG hit. Baked Rigatoni, Sausage and Peppers, Eggplant Parmigiana, Pasta Fagioli (for the vegatarians), Marinated Peppers and Italian Coleslaw. Even impressed my Mother. Total cooking/prep time = 12 hours. San Marzano tomatoes made all the difference. Recipe for this sauce is here: http://www.banyantrees.net/cookbook.html.

Signed,
The Resident Stoner

PS. Metallica RULEZ!


User: t | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Wouldn't that be "spinning in His tomb?" And depending on who you ask he isn't there anymore anyway... but that's another holiday...

"the lunatic is on the (blue) grass..." - The Austin Lounge Lizards did a bluegrass version of "Brain Damage" about 12 years ago...

Merry Wampum Placemat Juniormas!


User: Altamira | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: King of the Secular World,

That's horrible! I'm glad you were able to get out.


User: king of the secular world only, cringe bow scrape | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: If Dr Atkins invented this business where you're supposed to "clean out" your system with meat and fat, then I was subjected to it 3 or 4 years ago. I was forced by medical circumstances to be dependant on a maniac father, who threatened me with eviction if I didn't go to his maniac doctor, and follow all instructions without protest. Luckily I learned of a sort of bureaucratic back door that allowed me to get government-subsidized Disabled housing, because the home situation and treatments were getting crazier and crazier, and in some cases harmful.

I'll say this for the diet, which I think is a variation on that "caveman" diet... it's terrific for losing weight. I lost about 20 pounds in two weeks. Unfortunately, it had no effect on my condition, AND I was literally being forced to eat meat after not having done so for 30 years on moral grounds. My father was all too pleased to beat this "quirk" out of me, and to hit upon this method of bending someone else to his will at a time in his life when I'm sure he feels a general loss of control in his life.

Another crazy treatment: a "zapper", where I was forced to hold onto electrodes and get current put through me every day, when a huge part of the condition is a huge over-stimulation of the nervous system--- far too much current, in other words. He was/is a f'ing lunatic. He's in that class where his psychological problems don't cause problems for himself, but for those around him.


User: Altamira | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Mu,

Yes, I think the Atkins diet is just wretched in terms of health. I won't mention its health risks directly to my friends, but when they're touting its benefits to other people we know, I like to point out what I've read about the benefits of other types of diets (like eating lots of fruits, vegetables, and whole grains) and the dangers of Atkins. The father of one of my friends just had a minor heart attack (which will prevent him from visiting his son for Christmas; I'll miss him), and my friend honestly believes his father had the heart attack because he eats too much low-fat food and not enough animal fat! Seriously! I sure hope his father's doctor has more sensible advice about diet.


User: sally | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Excuse me. Don't you mean: Jesus is probably spinning in His grave? Hmm? C'mon, people! Hugs & kisses, everybody! Merry Christmas!


User: El Supremo | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: King of the World: Jesus is probably spinning in his grave, man.


User: ¦ - and the Oscar goes to...New Zealand! | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Anton: Already did...An epic..New Zealand, swords, Uruk-Hai and THC don't mix...


Alta: While the Atkins diet can result in rapid weight loss and loweres LDL cholesterol short term, long-term it results in insulin resistance and risk of TypeII diabetes...Dr Atkins had a heart attack 6 months ago - I think that speaks for itself...beans & rice - throw in an egg or eggnog (lofat)


User: Altamira | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Mu,

Thanks for the advice. I'm sure you all will enjoy your delicious dinner.

Hutch,

Good to hear from you! Thank you also for the advice. I used to think the line was "she serves the smooth red cedar," which makes no sense at all.

Speaking of comestibles, I might go out to dinner tonight--it depends on when I get off from work; I have a lot to catch up on. I still need to wrap the presents for the party tomorrow and peel a head of garlic for the host. She doesn't like Christmas presents in general, but she likes to receive peeled garlic. For the party menu, I've been asked to bring salad ingredients--I'd better take a good amount because the host and most of the guests are on the Atkins diet and I'm a vegan, so I may have nothing else to eat! I'll still have a good time, though.


User: king of the world.................................... | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: CHRISTMAS--- A TIME TO CHANGE YOUR SOCKS

It was Christmas time but nobody knew it cause the kid hadn't been born yet. Yes, it's that story about that Very Clean Impregnation which had nothing whatsoever to do with sex-- THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH-- I mean, THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD OVER AND OVER AGAIN. First, a bunch of big, hairy gorillas jumped up and down a lot and threw cream pies in each other's faces. Then Mary and Joseph burst upon the scene, wreaking havoc among the defenceless citizenry of Bethlehem or King of Prussia, Pennsylvania.* Within minutes, three thousand people were dead, and six hundred developed slight rashes on their inner thighs and forearms due to stress. Nine million people had hangnails. Joseph cautioned Mary on over-exerting herself, because she was eleven months pregnant and was certain to give birth in five minutes, even though they'd never had sex, or so Mary claimed, though it had seemed like sex to Joseph.

They made a beeline for a nearby manger, because Joseph said it was where all the truck drivers had their babies. Sure enough, the place was packed with burly, sweaty truckers lying on the ground, moaning. Joseph unloaded their sixteen bulging pieces of Samsonite luggage from Mary's shoulders, toppled her over onto her back, spread her legs, and yelled, "Push! Push! Push! GO TEAM!! RAH RAH RAH!!" There was, inexplicably, the sound of one of those things behind a door that keeps it from banging into the wall being pulled back and released, and the newborn bundle of joy shot across the barn, and landed deep within a haystack. Umbilical cords being what they are, Mary instantly followed, arms and legs flailing. Then some more messy, gooey stuff happened and got cleaned up. Joseph passed out imaginary cigars to the truck drivers, who beat him to a pulp.

Mary laid the infant in the manger, posed for a representative from a plastic Christmas lawn manger-scene company, picked up the baby, and said, "We have to give him a name." "Couldn't we sell him one?" Joseph queried, whereupon Mary hit him over the head with her rubber chicken, and old family heirloom. Despite this humiliating comedy relief, Joseph spoke again. "I have the perfect name: Jesus!!" "What do you men know," Mary snapped. "I'm calling him 'Wampum Placemat, Junior!!'"

And so, their one shining moment in history over, Mary and Joseph left the barn, carrying their son Wampum Placemat Junior of Bethlehem or King of Prussia, Pennsylvania, Savior of humanity, in two of their four arms. They passed the Three Wise Asses in the street, laden with myrrh and Franken-Berry breakfast cereal. They were late again, as usual.


*---Probably not.


User: Luckless Pedestrian at home | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: jim# - 5:00 Vespers at St Paul's in London is a must for you! It is chilling and one of the most spiritual things you can do for yourself!

Still negotiating, but the lobbying efforts of the kids are wearing the barrister of the house down - LOL!!!


User: Cyn | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: 
Merry Christmas to all the good Steely folk !

With the Englishman here we've changed our traditional "English dinner" for an American one. But the eating starts this evening sitting in front of the tree picnic style with:

Clams steamed in garlic, olive oil and a dash of wine
King prawns sautee'd in garlic and olive oil
Teri-yake beef strips kabobs
Chicken breast picata strips kabobs
French Country Pate'
fresh mozzarella and tomatos
fresh asparagus
Crusty French bread
"Sister-in-Law Nancy's Killer Apple pie" and vanilla ice cream

Christmas Day:
Roast Fresh turkey
Oyster dressing (inside the bird)
Traditional dressing
Mashed potatoes
roasted potatoes
Brussels sprouts
Cauliflower
Corn
Yorkshire Pudding
Giblet Gravy
Roasted garlic gravy
Mincemeat Tarts with Devon triple cream
Pumpkin Custard pie
crusty rolls

And we haven't chosen the wines yet...but we'll end with a nice sniffer of Baileys.


Looks like I better get cooking....HA!


User: Duncan, Linda & Dan | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: Could be my last post of 02 !!!
Well where to startà
Big thanks to everyone here, you've helped to make quite a horrible year great for me.
To everyone I had the good fortune to meet a pleasure.
And to everyone I didn't get to meet.. 03 ? I hope

Whatever you're doing try to do it safely & I'll see you next year.

A big Happy Birthday to Dan for the 27th

I'll be thinking of you all
Take care

db

Cheers Pat :)


User: Beerberian in a Santa hat | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: No snow at Christmas No peace on earth
But Seasons greetings for what itÆs worth


User: Jim# | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: A thing I always do at this time of the year: Listen to "Nine Lessons and Carols" from King's College, Cambridge. Generally available on NPR today or tomorrow.

There's something about a twelve year old male soprano, singing solo in a hushed cathedral, that always sends a reflective chill.

Very best wishes to all the Steely folk.


User: Anton | Month: 11 | Day: 24

Message: ¦: So are you smoking pot before or after you eat?

P.S. Go see that movie made in New Zealand. You know, the one that kicks ass when you see it high.


Mir,

Anton


User: ¦ | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: H, Alta: hey, that was just faux Euro snobbery...Since virtually no one Austin drinks wine, except for a fruity and dusty local product, virtually any wine is uhhh cheap in Texas...lol...but it works on the Lasagna - Pinot Noir is a tart and mischevious red, which is exactly what's needed...

My wife cooked a heck of a pot roast in a bag with red potatoes, onions, onion soup, and baby carrots tonight as family descended ducking the tornados. When I was a kid, my Dad was a meat and potatoes guy, like his Dad, until we (my mom and 2 of the kids) slowly converted him with Italian cooking and more - once the other 2 kids would eat something besides hamburgers and Mac & cheese...anyway, now it's specialty everything for my Dad (we created a monster) and it's been I bet 20 years since I had a pot roast...the time off allowed the proper amount of appreciation for this one...


User: Moll | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Hey there are some excellent Bluegrass musicians.. Give Gillian Welsh a listen. Her voice is as pure and unadorned as a mountain spring. The lyrics to her songs have an honesty that touches one's soul, very much like the poetry of Robert Frost. Dave Rawlings is an outstanding musician. His hammer-claw style of banjo picking is quite good.
For a laugh, Give a band called Hayseed Dixie a try. They have done AC/DC's music in bluegrass style. It's a hoot. Think I'm gonna pass on the Bluegrass version of the wall though.....LMAO


User: Reefer Madness | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Pat,

Your poor atrophied drug-soaked brain has once again led you astray.
Alan Parsons was great, is great, and will continue to be great.

Metallica..., now THEY sucked!


User: Hutch | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Alta! Nice to see you here again.
Actually I had always thought of Turning Leaf as a more or less commercial mass-produced wine (which it really is) but that wouldn't necessarily mean "cheap" in my book. What turned my head around on Turning Leaf was that I started finding these bottles of their '97 Cabernet Sauvignon and I thought "well it might be a commercial wine but it's a '97 so it's probably alright". It was outstanding. A real value. And I think anyone who looks down their nose at you bringing that wine to a party would be a wine snob and probably not worthy of your attention.
Get all the '99 Cabs you can. It's the best vintage since '97.

Hmmm... no Dan content above. Maybe I can tie it in somehow...

Right. Mis-heard lyrics dept.
For quite some time I thought that line in Home At Last, "She serves the smooth retsina" was "She serves the spoonbread easy". Couldn't figure out what the hell that bit about the spoonbread was supposed to mean.
If any of y'all don't know what spoonbread is Midnite Cruiser will explain it to you later.

Here's to the New One.
Here's to all the good folks on the GB.
And here's to peace on Earth. I hope we get there one day.

Hutch


User: Altamira | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Mu,

My last message looked a little ambiguous in tone after I took a third look at it. What I meant is that I'm glad you warned me before I made a fool of myself by taking an inferior wine to a party. Thank you! You sound like an excellent cook, by the way, as does LP.


User: Altamira | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Mu,

So you consider Turning Leaf Pinot Noir to be cheap Northern California wine? I've taken other Turning Leaf varieties to parties and had them quite well received. Is it all of Turning Leaf's wines that you consider less good or is it only the Pinot Noir? I'd hate to show up at someone's house with a bottle of it and have people laughing at me behind my back! Thanks.


User: jjeff | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Tones and Pat: I was about to give up on you two but you came through very nicely. Thanks for the colour. I was wondering what he did for Signal To Noise? Overdubbed Ali Khan?

lcpaul: Merry Christmas! Do you decorate a tree? I was talking to some Swiss people who pay the equivalent of 18$ for 2 small fir limbs. A full tree cost 180$. Me, I just went into the woods and cut down the hardest lookin' thing I could find. Why cut down something beautiful for a couple of weeks enjoyment?


User: Jaydubz | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Happy Holidaze to all!!!


User: ¦ | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Yorkshire pudding? save me the black, salty stuff! yum...


I've got a bottle of Turning Leaf Pinot Noir...and it's going into the Familia Lasagna for Christmas meal...the hot sausage is ready! Gonna maka da tasty meatballs ...I learned a trick a couple of years ago that near the end of the sauteTing of 4 onions and 30 cloves of garlic in extra vrigin olive oil - glaze the sucka with a vat of cheap NoCal wine...then badda bing Basil, oregano and badda boom tomato puree, red pepper, paste, and diced pear tomatoes, cook half the day. Boil or make the noodles, layer with sauce, noodles, shredded (not grated) parmesan, ricotta, mozerella, repeat and rinse, bake at 350¦ for 60 min while making an exercise schedule for the New Year!


User: lp, one more time, can you tell it's slow here at work? | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: hello tones - here is the menu:

Christmas Eve:

well, this is still in negotation...the children have voted for ham, but it is under a veto consideration from the man of the house

it is hoped resolution will occur in the grocery store tomorrow (***gee, i have to work tomorrow, what a bummer***)

Christmas dinner, simple this year:

martini's and the even more festive toast of negroni's to start

we invited the local "bagel nazi" to dinner who will likely bring foccaccia bread, our offering will likely be english cheeses and crackers

roast beast
yorkshire pudding
brussel sprout slaw with warm bacon dressing (addicted to this from Thanksgiving)
goerge washington's favorite onion casserole (see note above)
creamed potato with garlic (i really miss our AGA)

i'm thinking beaujolais from france, of course - it's light, i realize, but a heavy dinner sometimes can command a lighter wine, no?

dessert: indian pudding with french vanilla ice cream - this has become our industry standard and we didn't get to it Thanksgiving weekend so we need our fix - our guest makes a good apple pie which will also be available

i'm attempting to reach in vain my lobster guy to get lobsters for our second Christmas feast with husband's family driving up for Friday night - low tide is during daylight that day so a first course of mussels/clams will be a definite - clams may be tough because we missed the right moon phase for that nice extreme low tide

lots of maine history books, fiction too, and coastal-location mysteries are planned for gift giving this year as well


User: Altamira | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Well, I celebrate Winter Solstice rather than Christmas, but I forgot to sign on over the weekend to wish everyone a happy Solstice, so now I will wish everyone a wonderful Christmas, Kwanzaa, and New Year's.

(By the way, I was shivering in dread at the thought of a bluegrass version of The Wall--there's nothing wrong with doing it, it's just definitely not anything I would ever want to hear!)

I'm listening to a CD by Bobby Darin and Johnny Mercer right now-it's bright, happy music, just right for this dark time of short (but lengthening) days.

Anyway, have a blast, everyone!


User: ok then... | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Merry Christmas lp... What's for dinner? :-)

Loved your Christmas story btw...

t


User: W1P | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: If you think Pink Floyd sucks and you think Bluegrass sucks, then here's a band for you -- Luther Wright & The Wrongs who perform "The Wall" in a bluegrass style are coming to a town near you beginning in mid-January. Please go and have a miserable time!

Tue, Dec 31st, 2002 Kingston, ON Scherzo
Fri, Jan 17th, 2003 Great Barrington, MA Club Helsinki
Sat, Jan 18th, 2003 Providence, RI The Met Cafe
Wed, Jan 22nd, 2003 Baltimore, MD Fletcher's
Thu, Jan 23rd, 2003 Philadelphia. PA The Angel
Fri, Jan 24th, 2003 Vienna, VA Jammin Java
Mon, Jan 27th, 2003 Winston-Salem, NC The Garage
Tue, Jan 28th, 2003 Atlanta, GA Smiths Olde Bar
Wed, Jan 29th, 2003 Tallahassee, FL Florida State Univ.
Fri, Jan 31st, 2003 Birmingham, AL The Nick
Sat, Feb 1st, 2003 Hattiesburg, MS Thirsty Hippo
Wed, Feb 5th, 2003 Chattanooga, TN Rhythm & Brews
Fri, Feb 7th, 2003 Nasville, TN The Sutler Folk Alliance
Sat, Feb 8th, 2003 Asheville, NC Jack of the Woods
Tue, Feb 11th, 2003 Springfield, MO Murphys
Wed, Feb 12th, 2003 St. Louis, MO Off Broadway
Tue, Feb 18th, 2003 Ames, IA Iowa State University
Wed, Feb 19th, 2003 Iowa City, IA Gabe's
Fri, Feb 28th, 2003 Pinawa, MB Community Hall
Sat, Mar 22nd, 2003 North Adams, MA Mass. Museum of Contemporary Art
Fri, Jun 6th, 2003 Chattanooga, TN River Bend Festival


User: El Supremo | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Merry Christmas everyone! I hope everyone gets what's comin' to 'em! hee-hee :-)

BTW, wasn't Nightfly originally released as one of the first all digital recordings? Digitally recorded, mixed, etc.? Therefore, what exactly is the difference between the CD & the DVD-A? Is this a stupid question? Is it the 5.0 setup that delivers something new?

Tanks, kids

El Supremo
basking on Biscayne Bay....ahhh!


User: Floridavid | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Here's wishing all the GB denizens a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!


User: lp, again | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Can't we say Merry Christmas for this week anyway?

Hannukah is over and Kwanzaa (sp's) is next week, correct?

Happy Holidays sounds so empty to me, i always want to reply "which one?" when someone says happy holidays to me - hehehehe

off soapbox...


User: The Fez | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Fez here just extending best wishes to all you Dan addicts. Have a happy and safe Christmas and wish you all a happy and prosperous 2003.
"May the Force be with You"
The Fez
El Fez
Fezelino


User: tones | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Happy HanuKwanzamas everyone...


User: Aussie | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Awful news on Joe Strummer. Always liked him and the work he did with the Clash. RIP.

Caught our own Malcolm Hunter's new ensemble, CORE, this past Saturday @ Chez Suzette's in the upper west side....good French cuisine, nice crowd, and the trio rocked the intimate joint oh so sweetly. The set list was an exclusive sneak-peek into their upcoming effort: Tryin' to Sort it All Out. No blow-by-blow colour this time, but I will say that this latest body of work eclipses the stuff Malc did with Tycoon Dog...comfortably. Nice work Malc.

LuckLess Pedestrian: Dear June love: Merry Christmas sweetheart. Glad the club got approval....I was seriously starting to worry a bit about you my lovie. Glad you're coming around. This year let's do the Bacardi 151 in the egg nog. Love love love... Ward.

Daaano: Merry Merry right back at you 'cross the pondde.

Hope Santa gets everyone what they want this year.

The news about Steely Dan's upcoming effort was certainly a nice stocking stuffer....at least for me it was.

Aus


User: ¦ | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: 
make up your own floatation device joke here:

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_732378.html?menu=news.latestheadlines


re: Iggles...and they fired the best technical guitarist - Don Felder...


Nightfly DVD-A - one for everyone...what a beautiful world it will be...


User: Dano | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Just a wee note to wish all you guys a great xmas and a Happy Hogmany.Have a good time whatever you celebrate, and its been a pleasure to meet new friends and great people from the board.

Remember at least once play McFadden and Whithead , have a good dance , a wee cuddle with the one you love, and act like a ten year old for two weeks.

Great Board
Great People
And thanks Pat for all the work mate.
Cheers Danoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.


User: StAl | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: I was just looking at my post and noticed that once again I've manage to prove the 1980's SUCKED...

StAl


User: StAlphonzo | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: >...the number one selling album of all time is The Eagles Greatest Hits

And those bastards STILL charge $80+ for a concert ticket. Don't mind paying that kind of dough for an event like a Peter Gabriel show, but all those old fuckers do is stand there and play...

Pretty sure we've discussed this website in the past. However it's still a lot of fun to read through some of these concert riders.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstagetour/index.html

1975 - 1979 Alan Parson's = Great!
1980 - 2002 Alan Parson's = Sucked!
1967 - 1979 Pink Floyd = Legendary!
1980 - 2002 Pink Floyd = Hit and miss...

I love America (the band). Except that friggin' muskrat love...

StAl


User: bad sneakers | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Home at last !!!!

Happy festives to all on the GB (yes even you Clas)

A time to think of families, friends and stopping wars forever

:-)


User: lp | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: My Christmas just got merrier this morning when one of my bright and astute secretaries gave me my Christmas present: Dave Koz The Dance CD

It's a great release - has many familiar names on it: Lenny Castro, Jeff Lorber, Paulinho Da Costa, David Benoit, Ricky Lawson, Burt Bachrach on piano (!), Dean Parks (!), great stuff!

The easiest way to please me as a boss is music, LOL!!!

Giving my husband tickets to Dave Brubeck at Sanders Theater, Harvard Square, playing in March, for Christmas - what a wife I am, huh?

The Bar Harbor Club, Ward, received approval, the renovations are beginning to bring the old girl back - see you on the tennis court, dear!


User: lcpaul | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Mol - just cruisin' through saying hi and have a good Christmas and New Year.

Love

Paul


User: no-ho-ho | Month: 11 | Day: 23

Message: Joe Strummer dies aged 50. 23-12-02


User: ¦ - slapped her Fanny at NYC | Month: 11 | Day: 22

Message: Moll: No, no, that's Southern Exposure! MDs in steel drumming and the like...just looked up Freuline Dokterr - she received her degree from Columbia University...somehow the program is still very active ;-)

http://cpmcnet.columbia.edu/dept/physio/physio2/


User: p.p.s. | Month: 11 | Day: 22

Message: I didn't say Kiss "rulez."

I said Alan Parsons and Pink Floyd both suck.


User: Moll | Month: 11 | Day: 22

Message: Jaz, you're too funny. Let's not forget Mott The Hopple....Now there's talent! LMAO... Miss you bud! We gotta talk Moody Blues again soon..
Dr.Mu, wonder where "Dr" Laura went to school? Probably Granada... lol I'm so unhip Mu,I only listen to NPR...(mostly classical)But I do remember having several callers when I was working for a Crisis Hotline while getting my Master's degree that were fans of Dr.Laura.... The woman is a menace.
W1P, I love Pink Floyd! My friends used to tease me, I was the only person they knew that listened to Floyd straight...Moreover, I can't understand why more of my fellow Banyanites aren't Kansas fans? They were great.
To my friend who calls me Wing, thanks for the kindness and your friendship. You've enriched my life so much. *hugs*
Floridave, was great seeing you.
Dragon, you're spoiling me ! The necklace is beautiful. I'll treasure it always. Thanks again.

My Viking, dream that highway babe. *kisses~~~~~~~~~~*


User: hands crossed | Month: 11 | Day: 22

Message: Your killin me Jaz'

bluz


User: W1P | Month: 11 | Day: 22

Message: Ah, I get it: Pink Floyd and Alan Parsons suck and KISS rulez!

Everybody says she's looking good. And the lady knows its understood. Strutter


User: WJAZ | Month: 11 | Day: 22

Message: ...okay for that person on your list who has everything...here is a special "box" set that those of us in undertaker land have stumbled upon:

www.kissonline.com/kasket

"Beth I hear you calling and I just can't come home RIGHT NOW...."

carry on...


User: king of the world king of the world king of the world | Month: 11 | Day: 22

Message: Not sure how America came up, but their main claim to fame is that Bill Mumy, half of "Barnes and Barnes" (he was 'Barnes'), and the actor who portrayed Will Robinson and the bonehead Linnear on Babylon 5, and a well-known child who sent people into the cornfield, played with them for awhile. I liked their firsat couple of hits. "Tin Man" was kind of nice when the full version with the orchestral intro got played. They quickly became Mr. Sensitive self-parodies, though.

You know, Steely Dan IS good.


User: p.p.s. | Month: 11 | Day: 21

Message: Steely Dan is pretty good.


User: ¦ | Month: 11 | Day: 21

Message: hmmmm hnow 'bout that...turns out Muskrat Love, while recorded by America before Captain & Tenille was recorded by progressive country artist Willis Alan Ramsey from 'round here: Austin, Texas

His version is craggier and much musch better. Bunnell of America joked it was a "Multiplicity" thing, each copy got worse...

Ramsey only recorded one album, but evidently a number of artists covered his songs: Jimmy Buffett & Jerry Jeff Walker recorded Ballad of SpiderJohn, David Bromberg did northeast Texas Woman, fellow Austinite Shawn Colvin Satin Sheets, Leon russel recorded Angel Eyes, Roger McGuinn and Lyle Lovett have covered these songs...

1. Ballad of Spider John
2. Muskrat Love
3. Geraldine and the Honeybee
4. Wishbone
5. Satin Sheets
6. Goodbye Old Missoula
7. Painted Lady
8. Watermelon Man
9. Boy from Oklahoma
10. Angel Eyes
11. Northeast Texas Women


User:  | Month: 11 | Day: 21

Message: movie = move[sic]


User: ¦ - the mystery is solv-Ed | Month: 11 | Day: 21

Message: He's no Jung-Sta:

Lyrics

Tin Man
Written by Dewey Bunnell, ¬1974

Sometimes late when things are real
And people share the gift of gab between themselves
Some are quick to take the bait
And catch the perfect prize that waits among the shelves

But Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man
That he didn't, didn't already have
And Cause never was the reason for the evening
Or the tropic of Sir Galahad.

So please believe in me
When I say I'm spinning round, round, round, round
Smoke glass stain bright color
Image going down, down, down, down
Soapsuds green like bubbles

Oh, Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man
That he didn't, didn't already have
And Cause never was the reason for the evening
Or the tropic of Sir Galahad

So please believe in me
When I say I'm spinning round, round, round, round
Smoke glass stain bright color
Image going down, down, down, down
Soapsuds green like bubbles

No, Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man
That he didn't, didn't already have
And Cause never was the reason for the evening
Or the tropic of Sir Galahad

So please believe in me


Dewey Bunnell's "Tin Man" was released as Holiday's first single, reaching #4 in the fall of '74. The song was a return to the soaring melodicism of "Ventura Highway," and it reestablished America on the airwaves. Still, Dewey Bunnell has mixed feelings about "Tin Man":


"The song is jumbled in my mind--there's not a lot of cohesiveness*** [duh]. I had really liked the chords, those major-sevenths. It was up and kind of bouncy, with a little Latin-y feel to it. That's how it is: I get the chords and the melody, and then I have to get some words."

Bunnell unravels the lyric as follows: "My favorite move of all time was probably The Wizard Of Oz, it still amazes me how great that movie is. And here's my classic use of bad grammar: 'Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man...' Another god-awful use of the language. But it served the purpose. But that was really the only cohesive thought I had. How do I convey that? The first verse--I guess that was a little bit of paranoia. We were being exposed to more and more sophisticated people, and there were times that I found myself with my foot in my mouth, saying things I wish I hadn't. The first verse is very ambiguous. 'The Tropic of Sir Gallahad' is a whole other image to me about being chivalrous or a gentleman. 'Spinning round, round, round, smoke glass stain bright colors...'--that's all just purely kaleidoscopic imagery. The melody definitely dictated those words, because it was a swirling, rising thing."

"Tin Man" almost didn't become a hit, Beckley recalls: "The single had stalled, and John Hartmann [the band's new manager] went in and did this full-on rant with Warners and kick-started it, and it went back up the charts again, which is very hard to do. John was not willing to let this die."


***Would we expect anything less from the authors of Muskrat Love? I had forgotten that George Martin produced their mid-to-late 70s albums including Holiday which includes Tin Man accounting for their clean sound which was built around their CSN-like harmonies...


User: W1P | Month: 11 | Day: 21

Message: If Alan Parsons and Pink Floyd both suck, who's good?


User: P.P.S. | Month: 11 | Day: 21

Message: Alan Parsons and Pink Floyd both suck.


User: Unfortunately... | Month: 11 | Day: 21

Message: ...the number one selling album of all time is The Eagles Greatest Hits, followed by Thriller.


User: P.S. | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Dark Side Of The Moon has gone platinum 30 TIMES since 1973.
It is the number one selling album of all time and has spent 741 weeks
on the charts.

A truly amazing feat!


User: Bill | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: W1P,

Of course Waters and Gilmour were Pink Floyd, but I don't think that
Dark Side Of The Moon would have been the same album without Parson's
engineering it.

In any case "Dark Side Of The Moon" was without question the most
successful album of the 70's if not all time.


User: ¦ | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Bill: Both Ambrosia and Al Stewart had some of the best engineering sound of the 70s this side of Steely Dan. Very open with a lot of depth. I did not know that was Alan Parsons...the oft overlooked Ammonia Avenue (with Don't Answer Me) may be my favorite...


User: ¦ | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Moll: While Dr. Laura freely admits she that her PhD is in Physiology, you're right, the connotation on that type of show would be that of a healer or counselor of emotional or morale problems...hopefully, her schtick has run its course...I not certain, but I don't think the show has been carried here for years...


User: W1P | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Alan Parsons is an extremely high quality artist but let's not give him too much credit for The Dark Side of the Moon. A couple of guys named Waters and Gilmour had a little something to do with that particular album.


User: Bill | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: and let's not forget...

Happy 54th birthday to ALAN PARSONS!
Alan began his career working as an assistant on The Beatles "Let It Be"
and "Abbey Road" albums and then became the engineering mastermind
behind Pink Floyd's "Dark Side Of The Moon" LP.

Well known as the founder of The Alan Parsons Project, he has also
produced hits with Al Stewart (Year of the cat) and Ambrosia.
His latest CD was "The Time Machine".

Happy birthday Alan! Aside from Steely Dan, you were the most innovative
artist of the 70's and early 80's.


User: Moll | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Mu, "Dr Laura" is not a Doctor in any sense of the word. She is an insult to the the people who have actually gone to school and earned that title. Particularly the Psychologists and Psychiatrists that are trying to counsel people with emotional issues. Her trite answers to complex problems are outrageous.


User: ¦ - I'll post slowly | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: The...point...is...Dr...Laura...has... made... millions...of...dollars...on..."family...values"...in a...less...than...tactful...manner...While...this...is...a...tragedy...one...wouldn't...wish...on...one's...worst...enemy...it...illustrates...her...hypocrisy. Dr. Laura's mother was elderly and lived alone with a bird. No one bothered to call or check up on her for months. Appalling. Outrageous.


User: ¦ - what's that breeze? | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Hey I'm!: look who's mom it is...

I'm playing in Pittsburgh


User: ¦ - evening scan | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Can't we fast-track this one?

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/12/20/vatican.teresa/index.html

A second miracle?! - if she can do that without the help of John Edwards (not your ambulance chaser)


User: I'm not quitting on you | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Moo;Hardly Festive ...........as if


User: ¦ | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Always check up on your Mom:

http://www.drudgereport.com/laura.htm


User: ¦ | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Hey StAl: top 10 KMTT poll for 2002

LISTENER PICKS:
á
Norah Jones
Come Away With Me

Carbon Leaf
Echo Echo

Dave Matthews Band
Busted Stuff

Various Artists
On The Mountain 8

Jack Johnson
Brushfire Fairytales

Sheryl Crow
CÆMon CÆMon

John Mayer
Room For Squares

Bruce Springsteen
The Rising

Carrie Akre
Invitation

Neil Finn
One All


I'll go with 1 and 10. Critics had PG Up, Elvis Costello and The Pretenders (had no idea) in their top 10...but then I've made it almost through the year without listening to top ten or AAA radio...


User: Petre | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Friendly fire US Pilots were on Speed:

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Two U.S. pilots involved in a friendly-fire incident
that killed four Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan were under the influence of
Air Force-issued amphetamines on the night of the tragedy, ABC News reported
Friday on its Web site, citing a lawyer for one of the pilots.
ABC said that according to the men's defense lawyers, the pilots were told by
superiors they could be found unfit to fly unless they took the pills.
Preliminary court-martial proceedings against Majs. Harry Schmidt and William
Umbach begin next month as a result of the April incident.
Amphetamines, known as uppers or speed or in the Air Force as "go pills," were
reintroduced after being banned by the Air Force in 1992, ABC said. They are
being made widely available to combat pilots to help them stay awake on long
sorties. Some pilots are also being told they'll be considered unfit to fly
certain missions if they don't take the drugs voluntarily, the report said.
The ABC report cited Air Force Gen. Daniel Leaf as saying the pills are
prescribed only in small, controlled doses.
The report said the drugs aren't approved by the Food & Drug Administration to
fight fatigue, and are grouped by the Drug Enforcement Administration as a
Schedule Two narcotic, in the same category as cocaine.
The report quoted Dr. Robert DuPont, a former White House drug czar and drug
addiction expert, as saying the pills could have prompted the pilots to "a
quick conclusion that is wrong." He wouldn't rule out that the pills may have
been a factor in the incident, ABC said.
The Air Force has ruled out the drugs as being responsible in any way, ABC
said.
-By Steven C. Higgins, Dow Jones Newswires; 1-201-938-4370;
steve.higgins@dowjones.com

(END) Dow Jones Newswires
12-20-02 1532ET- - 03 32 PM EST 12-20-02


User: W1P | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: St Al and Tones -- thanks for the words on PG. Do you think PG actually played music with apes? BTW -- what do you think about the Phil/Peter remake of Carpet Crawlers? Stevee -- any words about Platinum Live/Johnny Foxx's?


User: Bill | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Glad to hear that Trent Lott has resigned as head of the republican
party. Who does his hair anyway?

Now if we could just get rid of the other race-baiting mental case
in the U.S. House of Representatives.. Congresswoman MAXINE WATERS.


User: Beyond the Beltway | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Lani Guinier is a groundbreaker - the first African American woman to receive tenure as a Harvard Law Professor

http://www.kepplerassociates.com/guinier.htm

She withstood a smear campaign by both Clinton and

http://www.fair.org/extra/best-of-extra/guinier-queen.html

Rush Limbaugh

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/156584260x/fair/103-2240148-8053445


User: Jimbo | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: TRENT LOTT RESIGNS! YAHOOOOOO!

Hey, Outsider, I think he should resign from the Senate. Read Time and Newsweek. That way you can see his history of Civil Rights. Not made up like the excerpt of the article about Clinton that you sent in. I'm not saying you did, but the lady has to make up some lies to compensate for her lack of integrity.


User: Washington Outsider | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: OR

Wednesday, Dec. 18, 2002 10:06 p.m. EST

Lani Guinier: Clinton Pandered to Segregationist Whites

After he was sued in the late 1980s by the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund for failing to enforce the Voting Rights Act in Arkansas, then-Gov. Bill Clinton suggested to a group of pro-segregation whites that they were being unfairly targeted by civil rights laws as a result of the South's loss in the Civil War, according to one-time Clinton administration Civil Rights Division nominee Lani Guinier.

"In the late 1980s, in a particularly tense meeting in southeastern Arkansas - a section of the Mississippi Delta region where antebellum social relations are still in many respects the order of the day - [Guinier's friend] Dayna [Cunningham] and a local LDF cooperating lawyer were part of a handful of black people there to discuss remedies for a highly contentious LDF voting rights suit," wrote Guinier in her 1998 memoir, "Lift Every Voice."

"The meeting turned sour when one of the local whites demanded to know why, in his view, the whites were always made to pay for others' problems. Other whites in the group began to echo his charge. ..."

Guinier continued:

"Bill Clinton, the lead defendant in the case, took to the podium to respond. In a tone of resignation, Clinton said, 'We have to pay because we lost.'" Guinier said Cunningham inferred that Clinton was referring to the South's Civil War loss as well as his loss in the court case.

"Clinton had so irresponsibly pandered to the backwards feeling of the white constituency" in his speech about the voting rights lawsuit, Cunningham told Guinier....

"They try to suppress black voting, they ran on the Confederate flag in Georgia and South Carolina, and from top to bottom the Republicans supported it," Clinton said of the GOP on Wednesday, when asked to comment on the continuing Trent Lott saga.

In fact, the Arkansas state flag added a single star above the state's name in 1923 to commemorate its membership in the Confederacy, a design that remained unaltered throughout Clinton's five terms as governor.

After tapping Guinier for the top Justice Department civil rights post in 1993, Clinton abruptly yanked her nomination after critics labeled her a "Quota Queen." Guinier said she felt betrayed by Clinton, whom she considered a friend since their days together at Yale Law School, and was angered when he called her "anti-democratic" in a nationally televised address announcing he was scuttling her nomination.


User: Washington Outsider | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Trent Lott steps down!!


Who's next?

Robert "KKK" Byrd
Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson
Mike "tacos and watermelons" Wallace?
John "Weld took as much vacation time as welfare recipients" Kerry


User: Washington Insider | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Fezo,

Australia is next.
Better stock up on kangaroo meat and red wine while you have the chance.

(red wine goes with kangaroo doesn't it?)


User: Lars | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: C - good lecture. Is Rosemary still around in the house?


User: the potato, it is desired, don't you think? | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Presently " the lie being attached âPâeâC " mode
contribution person: Reverse side window
contribution day: December 20th (gold) o'clock of 16 50 minutes 41 second

But new òê (album) the timing which comes out is quick truly, don't you think? is.
Don't you think? two people of the SD when it becomes motivation, probably are people what which goes ding dong.
Even live tour, according to the biography when as for young time " the in America it turns you become tired because, the ear ", public it comes out it is shy as a * & * just a little musician in the enormous reason and are, the kind of people who are not from the ñ year ï= é- é- doing as many as 3 times to Japan, chaos powerful live being something which the * & & * new work quickly we would like to hear, it does. So and doing also sale commemoration tour next, desired the potato it is the âX.
When it is the Gary Ñ âJâbâc being entwined, don't you think? furthermore it is degree of expectation rise.


User: C @ W | Month: 11 | Day: 20

Message: Lars - Dakota Apartments, or the Dakota, in early Manhattan history, which is about kind of a hundred years from now (it's a young nation), the house was so far from civilization, on the southern parts of Manhattan, so they called the area up north; "Dakota".

Like we, in Stockholm, called the north part of Vasastaden "Siberia" not long ago.

LP - okay, she had to piss her brains out. But why in a bathroom?


User: ¦ - Ricky lives on The Lawn, Othell mows it | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: fezo:

2003: Iran, North Korea, and Mississippi
2004: Charlottesville
2005: Nunavut & The North Pole (Yes, Virginia, there is no Santa Claus)
2006: Mizar 5 & the Reefs of Kizmar
2007: Klingon Empire
2008: The Continuum


Quote of the Day: "I'm not wacko. But my point is already made. I mean, we're all a little wacko sometimes, and if we think we're not, maybe we are more than we know" - Mariah Carey. Tune in tonight on Larry King for an American lobotomy...


User: fezo | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: so when the economy is still in the tank a year from now who is Bush II going to invade then?


User: Lars | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: PG - No "Carpet Crawlers"? No "The Rhythm of the Heat"? No "D.I.Y."? And still good ...


User: t 0 n e s | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: St. Al. - Thanks for putting into words what I've been trying to say to friends for days now. My world has been bouncing ever since the first chorus of "Growing Up" Saturday night. That way he crawls inside a song (sometimes literally) to pull out layers of meaning lyrically and visually blows my mind. Other than Laurie Anderson, I can't think of a person who does that so well. You couldn't tell what he was going to do next. Another thing that blew me away was how focused his singing was the entire concert while he's doing all of that. He blew the intro to "More Than This" the Saturday night, when he mentioned he noticed the band looking at him funny, thinking, "isn't this the part where you're supposed to be singing?" which made him look at himself and think, "isn't this the part where I'm supposed to be singing?" Even that moment really just illustrated how tight the show was.

I've got a set list for you all:

Here Comes the Flood
Darkness
Red Rain
Secret World
Sky Blue
Downside Up
The Barry Williams Show
More Than This
Mercy Street
Digging In the Dirt
Growing Up
Animal Nation

band intros

Solsbury Hill
Sledgehammer
Signal to Noise

In Your Eyes

Shock the Monkey
Father, Son

Same set both nights. I could go on and on about how things like familiar steps he did that reminded me of moments in his previous tours, like little mind bombs set years ago suddenly going off.

Another thing I want to mention is how much deeper Up sounds after seeing the show. All the subtle details are so vivid now. My friend mentioned she was having the same experience. Easily Album of the Year at next year's Tonesy'sÖ...

Btw, that huge bubble-ball would make great alternative transportation...

t


User: Lars | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: LP - Pee her BRAINS out???????? C'mon - that's not a question of translation! And two times!?!?! Poor child ... Is there anything left of her?

Gimme that lesson on Dakota now!


User: tones | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: chere - hang in there sugabeare. Words seem so insignificant considering what you're going through, but I stole you some poetry:

When you stand up next to a mountain
you chop it down with the edge of your hand.
When you stand up next to a mountain,
chop it down with the edge of your hand.
Well you pick up all the pieces and make an island,
might even raise just a little sand.
'Cause you're a juju chile,
Lord knows you're a juju chile, baby.

wishing you big peace from the left coast.

t


User: you should see her face !!!! | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: Thanks again Ken i'm at home playing Joseph Spence to linda.

'' If i had wings of a dove '' sounds alot like somewhere over the rainbow.


User: angel | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: St. Al: You are truly on my list now. Can't get Sledgehammer out of my brain. Sheesh! :-)

Ed Beatty posted a part of the liner notes from the DVD A of Nightfly, over on the Blue. I found it to be very interesting, especially the comment on Kid-ness being beaten the hell out of him. I really want to get the DVD A now (as if I didn't before).

I have reprinted the comment here, for your convenience.

---------------------------------------------
"During the final mixdown of the album,I started to feel kinda funny,and that feeling turned into an even weirder feeling that had to do with work and love and the past and mortality and so forth. I wouldn't complete another CD until 1993.So I'm glad that I made The Nighfly before a lot of the kid-ness was beat the hell of me, as happens to us all."

--Donald Fagen
Manhattan,September 2002


User: lp | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: LOL! love that translation problem - no, she had to pee her little brains out!

LOL


User: Petre Parkre | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: Breaking news:*******US to declare Iraq in violation of the UN resolutions*****.

PP


User: Lars | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: C & LP -so todays lecture will be about Austria & Upper West side of New York? Thrilling!


User: C | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: Dakotas? There's where Ono lives. Upper West Side.


User: C | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: LP - she had to take bath or two on her way down to Augusta?


User: lp, again | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: hey mu: http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030106&s=bergen

i know, the nation, but it's a good read


User: lp | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: Hi Ken! Don't lurk too much!


User: Beerberian doin his 9 - 5 | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: Dunc; Did ya get the mail ref Chris B ? ...maybe catch a Gig ?

LcP; how ya doin ?

bluz; Friday feelin' already


User: king of the world. It doesn't know I've filled in all 'required fields'.@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: "It'd harder to stumble when you're already on your knees." -- on sign outside church half a block away. (Very religious town.) A previous one: "Love is a hammer that will break the hardest heart." I know what it's like to be threatened with that kind of "love". I'll have to see if subjugation continues to be a running theme.

It won't accept my post. "Required fields" thing again.


User: Duncan | Month: 11 | Day: 19

Message: Ken your right ..thanks

First laugh of the day courtesy of Mr Spence

''Young Folklorist: Mr Spence, I couldn't help noticing that you play all of your songs in the same tuning, dropped-D tuning, and the same key, D major. Why is that?

Spence: I used to know all them keys! I knew 'em all: A, and B, and D, and F, and H...I used to know all them keys!

YF: Well, Mr Spence, if that's true, then why do you play everything in the same key of D? Why don't you use any of those other keys?

Spence: I got tired of 'em! ''


User: StAlphonzo | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: The saddest part is knowing it may be another 10 years before the show comes to town again. At which Point Peter will be in his 60's. I have to wonder if he'll be able to walk upside down, ride a bike and bounce in a big ball when he's 60...

What a show. I tried very hard to clear my mind of any expectations. After the Secret World Live show, it would have been easy to draw comparisons between the two productions. I mean, how would/could he "top" that orchestrated extravaganza? However, I knew walking into Key Arena last night I would not be disappointed. And I most certainly was not.

The stage was in-the-round. We had seats slightly off to one side of the stage but only about 10 rows from the floor. They were awesome. Because of the copious quantities of bourbon consumed pre-show, the details of the show are a little cloudy (setlists, song order, etc). Never really been good at details anyway. Some of you were lucky enough to catch the show, and I really appreciate you holding off on the specifics. Again, I really wanted no pre-conceived notions going into this thing.

He leaned heavily on the new CD. I'd say he played at least half of the tracks on the new one. He also played old favorites like Solsbury Hill, Digging in the Dirt, Sledgehammer, and, surprisingly, for an encore he did In Your Eyes. I thought for sure he would have canned that one this go around. I can't really describe the stage setup. If you're interested I'd suggest you check out his website.

I really dug the symbolism. The large phallic tube which extended almost to the ceiling only to drop what appeared to be an egg. This egg hovered over the stage for a period of time at which point the cloth covering was removed to expose a gigantic clear ball. Later Peter crawls inside this clear ball and begins to walk/roll around the stage. It looked like one of the clear balls you place a hamster in so they can cruise about the house. This album is all about the phases of life. It is rife with observations from a 50 year old man's perspective -- starting with the very beginning of life.

Peter is an enigmatic yet vibrant performer. He never, ever let's his audience down. Many people who dismiss him as being pretentious and pompous really do miss the point. Peter is always adding whimsy to every aspect of his live performances. He never takes himself too serious. He rode a bike around the stage during Solsbury Hill, he bounced up and down in perfect beat with the music while he was in the big ball (no easy feat for a 50 year-old man). He was all over the stage. He made us laugh. He made us cheer and dance like a bunch of 30-40 something fools. He played to directly to ME.

I have never been that engaged in a show before (except Secret World) 2 hours absolutely flew by. I can't remember ever thinking about anything but what was happening directly in front of me. As if I were part of the show. Last time I remember feeling the same way was when I saw Pink Floyd's The Wall in the movie theater under the influence of powerful hallucinogens. I SWORE I was sitting right next to Bob Geldorf in that hotel room...

Anyway, last night I only had the more socially acceptable alcohol to "assist" me with the trance-like state I was in. We got them out for 2 encores (3 songs total). No one wanted to leave. We would have demanded a 3rd, but they turned the lights on.

Only disappointment for the entire evening -- no Manu Katche. Can't remember the drummer they had but I just wasn't as affected by his playing as I am with Manu's. David Rhodes and Tony Levin, of course, did not disappoint. It always cracks me up. I've seen Tony Levin play 4 different times. 3 times with PG, including WOMAD and with King Crimson. He always elicits the biggest audience response when he's introduced -- people chanting TONY! TONY!. He's a freaking god on the bass and a serious presence on the stage.

I've been listening to KMTT all day long. The airtime they are dedicating to last nights show is unprecedented. This morning started with Shawn Stuart playing 30 minutes of Gabriel's music along with fan observations. The afternoon drive guy has been gushing about it day. This town is abuzz in the afterglow of the Growing Up Tour. If you missed it, I'm sorry. Watch the DVD when it comes out. I'll be first in line.

StAl


User: Tom Waits is Pavarotti | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: Duncan:

You are looking for Joseph Spence's version of "Santa Claus is Coming to Town." Great flatpicking Bahamian guitar.

kenvogel
(lurking)


User: W1P | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: Hey St Al. -- where's the PG report? How's "street teaming" for Keneally coming?

Has anybody here seen (or care about) the David Gilmour Meltdown DVD? A very high quality piece of work and he even does a Syd Barrett song "Terrapin"!


User: Duncan | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: Pat whilst were waiting
real site or joke?
www.deliciousdogs.com


User: Lars | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: ooops - I didn't know about Bar Harbor ... thought it was Athen's Sports Bar at Broad Street. Thanks for the lesson and can't wait to the next. Dakotas ... mmmm, that's a moped isn't it? German or Austrian made.


User: duncan | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: sorry i'm stumped !!!
trying to track down a version of
santa clause is coming to town by some old dude
sung in the most weird way..almost not english
this track has haunted me for years !!!
really bad singing & playing in near english...
any clues ?

Pat where's the colour ?


User: lp | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: Uh, that's Augusta, Maine, gentlemen, the capital city of the state, and its principal river is the Kennebec - (my mom taught me a song as a kid of all the states, their capitals and their principal rivers, who knew)

Your geography lesson for today is now completed, tomorrow, the Dakotas!

The whining was from me on the way down due to her necessary 2 bathroom stops and nagging about where we were going to eat for dinner - she slept on the way home and was angelic during the performance, gratefully

Thank you Lars and you too Clas!


User: C | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: Sorry LP.

Back the tape:

A whining nine year old in the front seat. To the right, I guess.


User: C | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: DOCTOR MUUUU!!!

How many hours does it take to drive from Bar Harbor to Augusta, GA? And back?

Consider you're exhausted when you're driving back, and on top of that, a whining six year old in the back seat?

And the flu.

Appp...ppr... oximately?


User: C | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: Lars - det tar vSl inte 2 timmar att k÷ra frsn Bar Harbor till Georgia?


User: Lars | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: C - det Sr nog bsde och.

LP - nice color and it's easy to understand your feelings. But wait, is it Augusta, Ga.?


User: C | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: Never Mind, it's Peter Tjajkovskijs N÷tknSpparsviten. Am I sittin' on internet, or what?

LP - sounds like great stuff. Don't know if I had done it if it included a 4 hour drive though.

---

Kids - be cool and dandy over the hollidays now, and whatever you do, don't let the Good Doctor come close to the Christmas-fire, he's so dry, he'll vanish in a flame.


User: C | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: Lars - Sr det N÷tknSpparsviten? Eller N÷tknSckarsviten?


User: Altamira | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: I heard the Bolshoi Ballet Orchestra (well, they're from the same country as the Moscow Ballet anyway) at the Kennedy Center in DC last year. They were fantastic; I enjoyed seeing the obvious delight they take in making music--they were smiling and lively, and the percussionist was actually jumping up and down at one point. Of course, one can enjoy playing music and not physically indicate one's enjoyment, but the orchestra was great fun to watch!

It's great to hear from you folks. Bright holiday greetings to all of you.


User: lp, comparing and contrasting, judging and cowering | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: Last night, I took my 9 year old daughter to see the Moscow Ballet production of The Nutcracker - after 6 years in a row of seeing the Boston Ballet version, I knew I had to do something - It's a 2 hour drive to Augusta from our house, but it was worth the trip

It is amazing the level of grace, sophistication and discipline that are rolled up on one for these Russian performers, very unlike the Boston Ballet, I can't articulate the difference plainly, but it's there - the storyline was more focused on the dance than a plot that the American version focuses on and the children play a much more minor role in the Russian version -

The setting was in a civic center, usually housing basketball games and rock concerts, hardly the appropriate setting for such grandeur; however, the dancers performed oblivious to their surrounding, almost as if they have performed in worse places, likely they have - at first, I disregarded the performance because it lacked the glory, and boisterous display of the Wang Center's painted ceilings and moving backgrounds and enlarging Christmas trees but again, their ignorance of their surrounding during their performance made you focus on their impeccable dancing and all those things in the Wang felt like disturbances and disruptions in memory

Overall, which is better - who knows - there is a special feeling you get when you go to the Boston Ballet because of the theater it is set in, we also know personally one of the performers, also making it unique as an experience - the champagne at intermission in Boston was traded for a bag of Skittles, which made me chuckle in distaste - minks for parkas, glittered dresses for flannel shirts -

then I overheard a man, dressed, dirty, and disheveled like he just came out of a lumber yard and likely did, tell someone how he had driven over 3 hours to take his daughter to the ballet because he thought it was important for her to see - I was immediately humbled and was reminded that this is what it means when people say art for the people

I'm thoroughly exhausted today here at work, as I continue to nurse the stomache flu, but hopefully I became a little wiser last night

Merry Christmas to all -


User: Beerberian Tiding the Yules | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: Ladyz, Lady Boys & Gentilemen of les arbres de Banyan

Let me be amongst the first to wish Salutations of the Season to all

Have yourself a Steely little Christmas
May your heart be light
New one next year - our troubles will be out of sight ààà


Here we are as in olden days
IÆm off to golden days of yore
Precious friends who are dear to us
Gather near to us once more


Any Dan Action in Colorado ? Business Trip coming up in Jan To COORS HQ yehaaa !!!


I know that
In a year we all will be together
If the Fates allow
Until then, we'll just have to muddle through somehow
And have ourselves a Steely little Christmas now.


User: C @ W | Month: 11 | Day: 18

Message: Gina? Did you get that CD? I better send you another one, I guess the Swedish mail fucked up again. I don't want to nag about it, but email me when you've got it. No, SMS is better. We're going down to the C-house over the Holidays (there's a snowman waiting to be built).

Lars - I think that's true, when we're young, the music that fascinates us, are forever etched upon our minds. It will never be the same again, 20 or 30 years later. If I had to make a choice between Katy Lied or 2 Against Nature, I'd take Katy Lied.

---

Dr Mu - not that I really care, but, are you okay?


User: ¦ | Month: 11 | Day: 17

Message: Past my post limit, but

Facts = Reality? I never said that. I thus must question not only what you "know" about me, but also what you know about natural sciences. When an hypothesis is tested, there is a (1) null and (2) alternative hypothesis. The attempt is to disprove the null hypothesis or theory if you will. In the end, no signle experiment can ever prove a hypothesis. One can either (a) disprove the hypothesis (alternative hypothesis or explanation) or (b) we cannot disprove the hypothesis. Thus science is a game of endless iterations, a pursuit of the truth, and sometimes never quite catching it, the full truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth. Only through playing "king of the mountain" countless times does a picture of a type of reality emerge...

Having said that, if a theory like (a) "acceleration = force/mass" (now otherwise called Newton's law of acceleration and usually formulated F = mòa) or (b) "heart disease is an inflammatory disease" stands up to constant tests and scrutiny by peer review again and again is something accepted more or less as "real" at least until the next really good theory comes around. It's a real fluid reality, especially in complex biological systems, much more so than soc