Sign In Stranger Archives -- Decemeber 98

Name: Schwinn

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 22:26:52

Happy New Year to the finest citizens on this or any other planet! BTW, Dick Clark says, "Hi".



Name: mighty hermaphrdite

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 21:48:39

lurk no more

my lumps are soft.
my breasts are hard.
my surgeon is rich.
hip hip hooterray!
long live steely dan

the ball's about to drop,

Hoover R. O'Vac

Name: Geena
12 degrees can't be healty

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 19:34:27

Dangerman: I started scribbling your name on my "hit" list until I saw your second post and turned my pencil upside down to erase it, LOL! Thank you for including Eviva and I in your list of strong-willed, intelligent women.

Josie: No, I didn't take you seriously, but if I had more time, you can bet that I'd run back in for my SD CD's at least!

GK John: So you can relate to my story, then eh? Yes la festa di sette piatti should be something that needs to be videotaped and used for psycho therapy. It's a guaranteed laugh a minute! The food is important and it goes hand in hand with the arguments. I think it aids in digestion. This way no one is left without having a little "aceta" after the meal. Your wife must be a strong woman for putting up with it, but after all isn't Albania right across the water from Italy?

Rose Darling: My husband introduced me to Steely Dan. Royal Scam is "our" album and song.

Eviva: Your nominations were great. How creative! Thanks for letting me share the spotlight as Veteran Diplomat of the Year with Rose Darling and David in the Florida Room.

Oleander: aw made me *blush*

David in FLA Room: I love The Rippingtons!!!

Hollywould: stop lurking and post more often!!!!!

Mitch: I'll be more than happy to cook for the winner, but Braciole? Now you know I'm not a consumer of red meat, but I'll substitute it with chicken anytime.

DrMu: do you mean the the double CD Stoned Soul Picnic and The Best of Laura Nyro? I'm impressed with a lot of her work. It's so sad that she's no longer with us, but I do have to agree with you about Gary Katz, without changing her, he just made her better.

Michael C. Packard: I have a copy of Rose Vela's Zazu, but I won't give it up, I'll email you. Just let me know if that is your true email addy you posted.

Well everyone, I can't remember when I first posted here, but it's gotta be a year at least. I've had some good times and bad here, but then that's what life is all about. We take the bitter with the sweet and pray the bitterness goes down fast. My closing statement for 1998 is that I love all of you, yes even you Kinky! you've all become close to my heart and I pray that this new year will bring more peace, happiness and love to you all. Now, I gotta get to my bottle of cognac!

Bon Anno and Happy New Year!

Name: Michael C. Packard
Location: Almost A Full Moon In The Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 17:45:18

Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!

Wow, what a page to come and view all of your thoughts and ideas about music, politics, economics, war, peace, and love.

I would like to thank each and every one of you who have read my archived posts, and weird "stories" about various "DanMoments" in my life.

I want to wish all-of-you the most happy, prosperous, healthy, and happiest of all New Years----WOW, 1999 already!!!

As to the "poster" of the year, I think I would like to "second that emotion", regarding EvivaLaughs nominations, although I wasn't nominated for anything (stands to reason, righto??)

Keep your head on straight, smile, remember always that you can do ANYTHING better with a postive attitude, as compared with a negative one.

And, by the way, noone posted or emailed me regarding a "trade" for some of my live Steely Dan soundboard sets for Rosie Vela's "Zazu", or Thomas Kaye Jefferson's & Shades trades----anybody interested??

Hoping You All-The Best!!!


; )

Name: DrMu
my son is Spiderman

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 14:05:41

'Noles by 14 in one for the ACC! Did anyone catch the smidgen of "Confide in Me" during one of the breaks, by Paul Shaffer & Co., on Letterman late night?

Geena & oleander are my nominees for storytellers of the year.

Geena: Did find a copy of the "Stone Cold... Anthology for Laura Nyro. The hits (for other people) keep on coming). I was impressed on the second disk with the production work that Gary Katz did on the 5 tunes from her 1993 album. Without being too overbearing, he injected some vitamins and completeness into her sound and needless to say - very clean (recorded at River Sound)...but it's still Laura Nyro, not a hybrid of SD - which could describe Eye to Eye. The sound ends up more like a clean Carole King/Rickie Lee Jones kind of thing. I really couldn't here much Joni Mitchell in any of her music - both were just pioneers a female songwriter/artists. The fine guidance by Katz put again into perspective for me his role with SD as a facilitator and visionary especially early on - CBAT...a tip of the fez in his direction - too bad about the falling out with Mr. Fagen.

Stranger: You are right in that most of the Y2K problems are written in the COBOL language as I understand it...anything with a big server to a PC with business software could be susceptible from hospitals to government agencies to grociery stroes to utilities, etc. Since the DOS compiler is in 90% of the current selling PCs (don't worry Apple should double its market share again as in the last 6 mos making that 80%), numerous software programs for PC could also have problems - I don't know - it's difficult to predict...subroutines and loops using calendar years as part of any timing of clock could cause problems in a rather unpredictable manner.

Ole: No, the idea is for all of you to buy iMacs so my stock holdings will rise next year - I've got small chilluns to feed and to buy software to negate the effects of the public schools.

Anyhow, a Happy New Year to all.

Name: !!!!!!!!!!!!LESTER THE NIGHTFLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
happy new year@the steely dan guestbook

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 12:29:31

I hope everyone has a happy new year, I find we r all alike in many ways, I'm know one of those ways is the way we party! If I could have one wish, its that everybody survives this night of excess.

We r an elite race of our own!


Name: Vote Counter
vote early and often

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 11:42:50

Under the category of Poetry, Oleander has a sizeable lead, but there has been a few write in votes for Psychotic Minstreel.

Name: fezo

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 11:40:57

Roy, in my humble opinion, should be proclaimed poster of the year by acclamation. His online musings are consistently funny and brilliantly styled. And he can break down a song better than any of us. I just wish he would do it more often. Hint hint.

Happy New Year to all


Name: Guest Book 911 Team
You injure them We`ll treat em

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 11:08:54

It`s been our job and pleasure to respond to the ego bruises that from time to time occurs.

Name: Mitch
One last Post of 98

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 10:47:32

I too support Native Americans, Go Florida St. Seminoles and kick Tennessee`s Bogus #1 fuckin ass. Been listening to Traffic and they like Steely Dan were way ahead of their time............All Poster Award winners will be treated to Geena`s (Best Italian Cook winner) Cavatelli,Braciole and Red Roasted Peppers on crusty Italian Bread dinner. Salute!

Name: THE JustKaty
Happy New Year to all you DanFans!!!

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 10:37:24

David: Your background is impressive (notice I say that not as your wife). No, I didn't have the impression you couldn't write lyrics, I took it as you trying to streamline that process a little bit! And yes, there's got to be a song here somewhere! Watch your mail, too!

EvivaLaughs: You made my visit here so fun today! You sure have a handle on "who's who" in here, from what I've seen in the short time since I've been posting. And whoever said we were characters is right! We are! Of course I'm honored to have two nominations! I want to thank my Mother, my Father, ......

As far as the rookie diplomat nomination, that is truly an honor, thank you. Imho, I do believe we can say whatever we want to each other, be it positive or negative, however it is generally unnecessary to be injurious in the process. The disagreement with another's ideas, opinions, or behavior is surely to be expected and well tolerated by adults who have grown up; others who sometimes chooose to squabble as children will probably be treated as such, and won't truly enjoy themselves here very much in the long run

El Supremo and I are honored and excited about the song you picked for us, perhaps it will become "our song."

GK John: I don't know, but let's find out!!

Lester the Nightfly!!!!!: Great to see you back here, I was wondering what became of you!

Inquiring Minds: We post here when we're apart for the fun of it, and when we're together, for the fun of it, too! Try it with your significant other! We met online orignally and promised we would never totally stop sending each other messages and email on here!

El Supremo: Miss you!!!! {{{{Hugs and kisses}}}}

The Just KatyDanFan :)

Name: HolLyWoUlD

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 10:27:12

BOGUS posters???

no such kumquat

oleander, rose, rudy, geena, where's lucky pedestrian, StAl, dr mu, schwinn, rose, all... before i kiss my sweety tonight i'll surely pass along a good thought to y'all.

i've loved lurking here. y'all rock.

we've got provisions and lots of beer...
best to all.


Name: TheStranger
careful of the rizatto brothers

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 10:00:54

eviva laughs,
i thank you for the nomination, but this year i will refuse it in order to call attention to the plight of native americans.

2 lesters,
we don't have a good king john -- unless you're feeling like a republican co-conspirator & prefer to be known as king richard.

Name: Guest Book Police
We know who you are

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 09:53:22

We noticed there wasn`t a nomination for Bogus Poster of the Year. We will be watching for them in 99

Name: GK John
Location: NYC,
Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 09:51:15

Hey Dan People!
Did anyone check out last night's repeat performance of the Horn Dogs version of "Dirty Work" on Drew Carey? Can the accordian version release of SD's greatest be far behind? Just spewing thoughts here folks!

Just Katy- Would this event be televised on TNT on Mondays and Thursdays like WCW? Just curious.

Raise up your glasses! To 1999!
So long as Dick Clark draws a breath we'll never grow old!

GK John

PS. TNP- Ppplllllllltttt!!!

Name: Mayor Rudy
" I`m Honored ",

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 09:37:56

Eviva, Thank You and the people in GB Land for your support. I will try to continue to give the confident cocky arrogant leadership that my city needs, BTW I`ll be passing out free crack tonight at midnight in Time Square. Who said I play a minor role??? Making the City and the GB great again, Rudolf. Happy New Year GB`ers

Name: Mitch
Apples ,Oranges and Mangos

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 09:20:39

Eviva: Excellent job on the nominee list, That`s the thing about the GB , Toss out an idea and let the creative minds run with it. IF there is anyone who has a grasp of the characters here, it`s you girl!

Name: David in the Florida Room

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 08:15:29

OK...Let's see here,
El Supremo- go ahead and send your Poem...your Wife thinks you're great...but then mine thinks I am too LOL

Just Katy-It's not that I can't write lyrics (I've published with BMI and Have recorded 2 Albums with Bands) But this time I'm wearing all the Hat's...I just thought with all the Steely inspired Venomous Diatribes on the GB there's got to be a song in there some where!

Eviva- Thank you for your Nominations..I'm Honored
"And if I'm Elected,I promise to...."
although when it comes to Glamour Professions, you gotta see me schlepping the Gear,Hon! very glamorous! More like a plumber or electrician with a Van load of Tools!

Original Lester- Drummer Jokes Huh?.I've heard them do you know when the Stage is Level? the Drummer's drooling out of both corners of his mouth!
How about this Pal, How do you get a Guitar player to turn down?...put a chart in front of him!

To the curious- I started on drums at age 5, guitar and bass at 12, and keyboards at 14.
I've been a full time earn my bread player since I was 12.
My Mother sang with some big bands and my older brothers and I learned to sing like Pros very young...sibling harmony kicks ass!
I can read music a little bit and as we say "but not enough to hurt my playing" It's not all about learning Jazz standards at Berkley..
but you better know 'em anyway!
I've been solo for 10 years (see Modern Drummer Magazine,June '92) I play Drums and Guitar and sing with Midi Sequences on a Laptop with Cakepro software...and yes, I play a lot of Steely Dan.Also Spyro Gyra, Rippingtons, Eagles,Buffet,Sinatra,ZZ Top...Etc.

So, Now anybody that wants to contribute Lyrics or Poems,send them to my e-address and we'll let nature take it's course.

P.S. I'm thinking of Title's for my CD right now the working title is" He's a Drummer...He Can only Count to 4"

Your Pal, David J. Moore

Name: Nappy Hair
On the 6th day of Kwanzaa, my true love gave to me...

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 05:13:40

Kuumba, which means Creativity.

Name: Beavis

Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 03:15:36

I just came back to say, again, that the Dan rocks! Regardless of all the rest of the mumbo-jumbo in here...there's nothing better to have spinning in the CD player than the Dan when I'm in Panama kickin' back in the hammock! That's where the music and the attitude mesh into the climate!!

Name: Paige
Location: Santa Barbara, CA USA
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 22:20:58

What can be said that hasn't been said before?
Steely Dan is probably the greatest non-band of all time.
They see the world in the only way it can be seen...dark...forbidding.


Name: oleander

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 21:06:29

Schwinn--Yes, I remember that from last year, and love it again, but who is it?

Beast--Please clarify. Did you post "A Moody Bastard" and sign your handle, or did Moody Bastard post and sign with yours? I did indeed note and appreciate what you said about my homegirl.

Mitch--You're talking apples, oranges, tomatoes, plums, kiwis, kumquats, some bitter, some sweet--Tough to rate!--though--

EL--great try! Please add Ace Archivists & Keepers of the Flame: Pete Fogel & stevevdan (Honorary, because they don't post--Hoops! & Tomas); Couple of the Decade--Tie: Roy.Scam & Myra Eyefull/ Peg & lovebob; Quiet Jazzman of the North--Joe; Best opposites--minah & major; Best Newbie--Jack, son of major; Deus ex Machina: St. Al; Grin: JoKeR; Bodacious BP: SEMB.

New El Sup--I believe you're confusing me with the Punctuation Police. I don't post under anything else.

Dangerperson--That's better. I just squeak into that demographic, and I won't tell you which parameter is squeaking.

Zeke--Counting down to April.

GKJ--The sad truth is that if all anybody says is nice, it's boring, and doesn't reflect real life. It's also not in keeping with the band of whom we are all so fond. PS--ignore the Newbie Police & say whatever you want.

Stranger--Your description of Spanish mealtimes was right on and made me LOL.

Mu--Can I borrow your iMac for, say, 367 days?

Name: When tomorrow comes
things will never be the same again

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 20:42:18

Look for a new one by Michael McDonald by May 1999 tentatively called "Blue Obsession."

Name: EvivaLaughs
posts decided not to separate

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 20:29:01

Oh Well!

Name: EvivaLaughs
Can I do this in 15 minutes? Let's see...

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 20:27:38

Dangerman: Boy are you nice...Thanks! :) And I'm sure you intended to include RubyBaby, Peg, Myra Eyefull and Lisa too....
Rose: De-funked, thanks. Never takes me long, thank God...Things will work out, they always do...
Oh m'gosh, MITCH!:
Pick ONE poster of the year? How does one do that--we have SO MANY "humorous, intelligent, musically knowledgable and controversial" people on this guestbook! I can't do it. BUT...
....Just for fun, I have some nominations for other roles this year.
DISCLAIMER: All in fun, and IMO only anyway, so don't get all over my choices, add your own instead!!

* [Since August only: haven't been here long]
Most prolific politician in a minor role: Mayor Rudy
Most prolific politician in a major role: [tie] fezo, Dr Mu
On-site lyric analyst award: [tie] Dr Mu, oleander
Offsite Lyric Analyst Award: oleander
Genius On-His-Toes Lurker of the Year: Edd
Genius On-Her-Toes Lurker of the Year: Myra Eyefull
"Oh Wow It's You Again" Award: Kinky
"Only a Fool Would Say That" Award: Kinky
[We're Glad You've] "Come Back Baby" Award: Lisa
"I Know What Happens, I Read the Book" Most Literary Allusions Award: [tie] YGK, Schwinn
"Everyone's Gone to the Movies" Most Film Allusions Award: Stranger
CRD Poster Girl: oleander
Rookie Diplomat of the Year: [tie] JustKatyDanFan, Dangerman, GK John
Veteran Diplomat of the Year: [ties] Geena, Rose Darling, David in the Florida Room
Most Tactful Strong-Opinionator: Rose Darling
Glamour Profession/Show Biz Kids Award: [tie] YGK, David in the Florida Room, Clas
Bodhisattva of the Year: Sociable Hermit
"Walk Between Raindrops" Award: JustKatyDanFan and El Supremo
Most Enthusiastic Newbie of the Year: Lester the Nightfly
Best Understated Humorist of the Year Award: [tie] Peg, Edd
1998 Most Interesting Conversation Starters:
[tie] RazorBoy, Roy.Scam, RubyBaby, Midnite Cruiser, and of course...MITCH
And...I think my 15 minutes are up! I'm sure you veterans will let me know if i missed crucial categories or posters who appeared early in '98 :) !
Must say I think I had a lucky break stumbling upon this site several months's been just truly FUN "takin a break" in this virtual "AnyWorld" every once in a while with other DanFanatics....! Have a great New Year's all, and have fun tomorrow night!!

Name: Inquiring Minds
asks a simple question

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 19:23:50

why do el supremo and just katy dan fan talk to each other in this guestbook?

Name: El Supremo
when all my dime dancing is through, I run to
Location: USA,
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 18:59:00

Hello, DanFanDom!!!

Just wanted to tell the SD musicians about "where" to find the original Steely Dan Songbook liner notes. Hopefully, you can find a copy of it, or order it like I and my musician friends about 20 years ago.

Here goes:

The reason for this posting is I used to be very proficient at reading music, playing the piano, guitar, and later the bass. My friend and I who were both long time SD fans wanted to play Walt and Don's music (like 'they' played it) and my (now famous) musician friend couldn't read music. So, just because I happened to know the music, and he was much more proficient at the guitar than I was, I "just had" to show him "where" the moo major chords were on the frets, tough and difficult.

However, we were able to figure out that that is how some of the harmonies (including vocals) were so pleasant to listen to, and "why" no other band could exactly duplicate Steely Dan's music "sound".

Thus, I would recommend the Steely Dan Songbook for those of you who want to learn the intricate sound of Walt and Don's music.

"JustKaty", wife-of-life----I am now in Aruba, and am due in Caracas, Venezuela, in the morning, and I will call you, HSD.


I Do, I Most Definitely Do, Wife-of-Life!!!



P.S.: Sorry, GB'ers, but since I am traveling constantly, and my wife "JustKaty" and I both love SD, and are "newbies" here, we thought we would be welcomed, and I will always hope that is the case!!! Correct my punctuation, Oleander, if I didn't get-it-right, please, and thankyou!!

Name: The KatyDanFan
trying this out....

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 18:01:46

RoseDarling: My self-esteem has been intact for years now, in fact, it's kind of boring not to be working on that. I do remember you wanting me to be THE KatyDanFan, rather than Just Katy. I liked the feel of that, Rose. Hmmm.....have to think about maybe switching. Just Katy sounds too meek and mild, doesn't it, and I would seem tougher if I were The KatyDanFan. Yet there is something about me that hates for others to thiink I ever consider myself more important than they are, I am AS important but not MORE important, and I believe that's the reason for Just Katy. It's the feeling of coming into a room and wanting to say.....don't get up, just stay sitting, stay comfortable, I don't need a ceremony! PLUS, I just love that word "just." I just use it all the time in my writing. Actually it's just a bad habit I should just break. But should I change the name? I just don't know!

I am remembering now the definition of the word "meek" in its original language, which is "strength under control." So you know what, Rose, I do believe that JustKaty does fit me the best, although I reserve the right to be The KatyDanFan some days in here, when the mood strikes me, or should I say when the Moody Bastard strikes me, Ahem, well, at any rate, perhaps I'll end up being THE JustKatyDanFan.

But all I really want to do is listen to the Dan's music, like now. Wow, isn't it great? (Who are these children who scheme and run wild.....)

GK, appreciated your thoughts, and I'm sorry you've been missing the sports. Do I have good news for you! El Supremo and I could share news about one sport, wrestling!

Warning. Lights flashing. Hide your eyes, some of you, you know who you are!!!

Whispering the headline to GK: I mean, we're in very different weight categories, so he actually wins by pinning me every time. I keep meaning to complain to the ref, but the refs are gone by the time we get up off the mat! Not only the refs, the fans, everyone is gone and, the place is dark!

TheOneandOnly JustKatyDancingDanFan

"...who speak with their wings and the way that they smile..."

Name: Smart Ass

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 17:58:31

Lester: Here's your new handle: "!!!!!!!!!!!!!".
No letters even required. We'll all know who you are.

Original Beast: Talk to Moody Bastard about the mixup. He signed his post with your name.

Name: Lester The Nightfly

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 17:29:50

Will anyone be in the Chatroom tonight? Its been kinda dead in there lately! I'm glad to see some more new ones, welcome!

Original Lester- I remember u from a few months ago when I posted under Kid! You havent posted in so long up into a week ago, that I figured u were gone for ever. If u look back at some archived posts, you'll see I started posting as LTNF about a few weeks after you stopped posting on a regular basis back in august I believe. Anyway I'm willing to compramise on the Nickname !!!!!!!!!!LESTER THE NIGHTFLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unless your happy with posting as Original Lester!

Can anyone help us out by sugesting any alternatives to the nickname !!!!!!!!!!!!!LESTER THE NIGHTFLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

All smart-ass sugestions r welcomed!

LTNF for now!!!

Name: TheStranger
memories rush over me

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 17:17:12

dr. mu,
oh no, i have avoided all stories about y2k assuming it only affects giant conglomerate companies with huge banks of computers so who cares? does y2k affect me and my little pentium pc? i can't stand computer trouble. it gets me babbling to myself. is my machine going to get some kind of liver disease? what's it all about? you're freaking me out already.

i don't think the Dan wrote any songs about my in-laws, but they did pose for that painting of the farm couple holding a pitchfork.

Name: The Ref
on a smoke break

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 15:58:03

Hey Lester,

Don't you think its kind of ironic, I mean a guy from Bakersfield making drummer jokes?

Name: The Newbie police
comin at ya

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 15:44:23

GKJohn- You are a newbie here, so you shut up and listen before you speak your bull shit! Don't you come on here and tell people that have been posting here for years, how to act and what to say or not to say.. get it NEWBIE?


Name: Rose Darling
I'll never be your Be@st of Burden

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 15:38:29

Original Lester a.k.a. Phil:
A bit of a slam there against drummers? I take it you don't have a high opinion of them... that's too bad. Personally, I'd love to take up drumming but haven't yet, for various reasons.

Is your husband into Steely Dan also? Mine admires the Dan and we both revere the guitar solo in the middle of "Kings."
My anniversary is April 12th (because I love the number 12.)

Eviva Not Laughing:
Here's hoping you'll be out of your not-so-funky funk soon. The answer to your question is that, yes, I find it to be true because I have not met any women yet that want to discuss music or musicians with me (except for here.) Also, my father-in-law is deceased and my mother-in-law would not fit into a Dan song.

Dangerman: Gracias. Thanks for the swell editing of the textbook definition of the standard issue female Dan fan (to which I superbly conform.)

The Katy: Still with the "Just"? Whaddya got, a self esteem complex?!? Yer great, gal. Anyhoo, I've always said that I thought that "Charlie Freak" was the Dan's "Eleanor Rigby."

That ending scene with Gramps was great, not corny. One of my favorite scenes is when the girl in the bakery confesses to Cher how she is in love with the tortured man who can't get over the losses of his girl and his hand. Cracks me up every time !

What a funny idea. Now you're REALLY trying to fan the flames of a VQ fest (as oleander might say) when you're asking us to rate one another and elect a virtual leader. Do you think "this group of diverse wisecracking, opionated Danfans" could play nice in such a vote? Or is that not the point?
(Meanwhile, I'm still thinking about whom I'd cast a vote for...)
P.S. Are you gonna let Kinky count the ballots?

In case I don't post tomorrow, see you all next year !!!

Name: Zeke
don't surround yourself with yourself

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 13:33:35

Man, this is a boring week. Just coming off the christmas high
and waiting for the New Year party to begin. So what's YOUR plans for the New Year blowout?

Today I'm listening to Clapton Slowhand. What a piece of work.

Also, I surfed into For shits and giggles, typed in "Steely Dan". To my surprise the page was loaded with Steely Stuff. T-shirts, LP's, master recordings, Citizen box sets, all CHEAP!! Check this out, people.

Name: fezo

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 13:00:45

Dr. Mu: I worship at the altar of Faith Hill dayly. Any chance you can stop by the record store that committed the folly of discarding her posters and snag me a couple? I'll trade you my remastered "Gaucho" CD.

Name: GK John
Down @ the Lido

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 12:23:25

Greeting Dan-Heads!
I'm so glad I only get to read the GB with my morning coffee. This stuff is better than reading the New York Post Online although I do miss the sports section! BTW, thanks for the Hokies score boys! I really haven't had time to post in a week or two, but I've been lurking. Soooooo without further ado...

Midnight- Sorry about your father. This blessing and curse called life can be harsh at times. The last stanza of Mike & the Mechanics "The Living Years" I find very appropriate. Perhaps you will hear that laugh again. God Bless.

Geena- I close my eyes and I hear my VERY Sicilian-American household start to shiver at the Christmas Eve meal. Parents, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, grandchildren and other curious friends and relations all join in the fray for the "festa di sette piatti". As always, the food is usually secondary to the arguments, an Italian tradition if there ever was one. God! I love this holiday! My wife and I are married 15 years despite this. Bless her little wicked Albanian heart!

Eli & Moody- Unhand that gun son! There's no one to fire upon! Vitriol and insults such as these posts are not acceptable! Peace on Earth dudes! Didn't your mothers teach you "If you can't say anything nice, SHUT UP!"?

Razor- Me? I'm living an entire album behind the wheel of my brand-new Kama, swinging out to Lake Nostalgia, with one of Tomorrow's girls riding shotgun, watching out for that Counter Moon, stopping on the Dunes, Snowbound in the Florida Room and heading out to the Teahouse with SD on the KLH. Good fresh things every day of the year! But I must admit, "CE" is always gonna be #1!

Hermit- I just have to ask... If I'm ever in trouble will you write my defense? Beware the keyboard of the righteous!

Hmmmm... Poster of the year? VERY difficult! I couldn't even hazard a guess!

Felice Capo D'anno, Y'all!

Name: DrMu
on to even more serious issues

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 11:52:57

Roy: Could NOT find a copy of Silk Purse anywhere at the local music stores (even under the discarded Faith Hill posters). It evidently is way out of print...but, thank goodness for the internet - I did find a Linda Ronstadt worship site with album cover jpegs and song listings with credits. Sooouuuuiiieee!! I did find her in that semi-lotus, leaning position with some cute oinkers by her side!!(make up you own jokes about the "other white meat" here)...also stumbled upon a shared song-writing credit for Libby Titus on a song from one of Linda's 1973 albums.

Name: DrMu
even I can read the freakin' bass clef
Location: Of course Stevie Wonder can't sight read!!, but he uses Brail and computers
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 09:55:19

OL: Let us say that I am extremely skeptical. A) the info is from Sweet's book and b) I just don't see how the complex musical ideas for the albums could be communicated effectively without knowing the basics of written music language. Otherwise, the best you can do is say - Aerosmith. Perhaps they couldn't sight read at Bard (maybe that's why Chevy Chase called the pre SD group he participated in a bad jazz band), but I'm sure by CBAT they could. There is no way. Besides, sight reading music isn't really that hard - it is just difficult for mortals like myself to do fast and read multiple charts together.

If they can't read now - Clas get over there and help them or it will be another 18 years!! Now I'm going out to buy a pound of hash and listen to the Grateful Dead (famous muscial illiterates).

Get ready to SCROLL (If you have a MAC already)


“We may not have got everything right, but at least we knew the century was going to end.”
Apple Exec.

Computer systems that cannot correctly process dates beyond 2000 are at risk of failure one second after midnight on December 31, 1999. According to Information Week, the tab for the Year 2000 software fix for the Y2K problem alone will hit $600 billion. The good news is that since their introduction in 1984, Macintosh computers have had the ability to make the transition to the year 2000. In fact, the Mac OS and most Mac applications can handle internally generated dates correctly all the way to the year 29,940. That $600 billion tab is enough to buy 461,893,764 iMacs at $1299 each (although if you place such a large order, you should probably demand a discount).

That $600 billion is enough to buy iMacs for every man, woman and child in the United States—plus everyone in Australia, Belgium, Cambodia, Sweden, Bolivia, Ethiopia, France, Greece and Guatemala. (And you’d still have more than 3,000,000 iMacs left over to pass around as tips for your army of delivery people, each of whom will have to make more than 150 door-to-door trips.)

That’s enough iMacs to circle the globe four times. (And you’d better get those ships and trains and 18-wheelers ready: at 38.1 lbs per iMac, you’re talking about hauling away a total weight of around eight million tons.)

I am strongly considering to buy some Apple stock (the P/E is still under 20) - YOU SHOULD TOO!

Name: Beast Without A Name
I am not Moody Bastard

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 09:05:47

All, I posted once here in defense of Geena, and some of you think I'm Moody Bastard. Read your posts carefully, I am a kind and gentle Beast.

Thank you

Name: Mitch
GB Poster of the Year

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 09:05:01

It`s time to vote for the Guest Book Poster of the year. The person who will lead us into the next Steely Century. There are many worthy people here, that can ably carry the torch. Humorous,controversial,musical knowledge are a few of the traits that this person has to lead this group of diverse wisecracking, opionated Danfans. While Washington votes on another matter, let us vote for the "G.B. Poster of the Year" and the winner is........

Name: fezo

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 07:46:16


remember this result?

UVA: 36
Va Tech: 32

Name: the JokEr
bleedin' burnt orange & maroon

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 07:31:59

They got a name for the winners in the world
I want a name when I lose
They call Alabama the Crimson Tide -

i think that's your name when you lose, right there...

1st Annual Music City Bowl
Alabama - 7
VA.Tech - 38

[fleXin&Gr inn in}


Name: Just Katy
oops, lost part of that post

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 06:42:03

Sorry, I typed some things all in caps that didn't come through

David: What I said was that you might consider El Supremo's offer, he is quite a writer/poet. (I had prefaced this with the warning that a compliment to my husband was imminent!)

And here is the entire warning that was to show up before my remarks to El Supremo:

Double Warning. Flashing Lights Even. Love for husband will be obvious. Hide Eyes Immediately. In case of accident, have can ready!

Sorry, guys I Tried to warn you, I can't help if it didn't get printed properly!


Name: JustKatyDanFan
Morning DanFans (yawn)

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 06:26:43

Original Lester: Very interesting info. What you said makes perfect sense, though we'll no doubt have a few thoughts going back and forth yet regarding the topic: do Don and Walt read music or don't they? I would think your comments regarding the session musicians are accurate. This has been my experience, in the band I was in, I was the one recording what this talented composer was doing, mostly for myself to play keyboard, but it also helped the guitar and bass players, I mean, all they needed to know was the key, and they were off--- "brains of the composing/songwriting" just had no clue, and it didn't actually matter. We really didn't care after while, he was so good at the writing, I mean, like an original song a practice! We kept saying what? huh? another one? (So we know he was not in the Skinner box with the keyboard either, lol)

Thanks for the tip of what book NOT to get to obtain the chords, etc. Can you mention specific web sites for that? I've thought of getting some of this material now that I've been studying their music more. I'd love to be able to play that whole piano line in Charlie Freak, for instance, and I know I can just pick it out, but, as one who went the read music way, that would make it easier. I really have the bug lately to play some of their stuff. I have the Beatle books, too, and Billy Joel, Elton John, etc.

Loved your reference to being in a Skinner box with a six-string. That is quite comical and I'm sure some did actually have that experience! Probably not with guitars, but more like violins!

Josie: awwwwww, give me that "a la familia" feeling that Stranger alluded to....not corny at all, Stranger. (Take a look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Some people are very hungry, I would say!) Josie, no DanFest this time, however, but yes, we've got to meet, all of us! I'm close enough to NYC and have often parked in the parking lot next to Le Bar Bat that Pete mentioned. My brother is home from England though, and he's always in NYC New Year's Eve. I'll tell him. I have spent two New Year's Eves in NYC but alas, not this one! Already have plans but in case that can change would love more info on sitting in there to see Tom Barney or any of the gang who've been musicians with SD! That would be awesome! I'm planning to keep my eyes and ears open to go to SD "events" of any kind! Re: your reference to the LadyDanFanWorkout----yes, I have to keep that going.

Pete: Went to the site you mentioned. Looks great and tell me, is this a "once in a great while" thing, or are these people around frequently? Would love to know more, thanks. Will visit your picture site, too, when I get the chance, thanks for the info.

Schwinn: Thank you for rounding out the postings with that Qualities of Mr. Fagan. Yes, we should bow!

David: Tell us more about your music, I'm interested. And you might find something in (WARNING HIDE EYES IMMEDIATELY

El Supremo: Well, honey, I do believe we have friends in here. We don't have to flaunt our love though, if that is how it's being interpreted. Hey, we never meant to nauseate all of the people all of the time, or even some of the people some of the time! Let's switch it to acronyms, that should work better. Instead of IGY, how about ILY, instead of SD, we can use HSD, and so on. Some of these people I would love to meet real time, do you think we can have them over sometime? Wouldn't that be fun? I'm serious I love the bright, witty, down to earth personalities of many of these guys and gals!

Going to play the SD, work out then mellow out!

Just Katy
"...this looks like a game crowd..."

Name: Nappy Hair
On the 5th day of Kwanzaa, my true love gave to me...

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 05:01:11

Nia, so my Purpose I could see.

Name: El Supremo
still trying to revive Lonnie after 48.hours. com
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 03:19:51

Hello, DanFanDom!!!

Interesting posts recently. Hmmm, a shame someone cannot express true feelings for their spouse on the GB, without offending those who constantly express their verbal diatribes on everything UNRELATED to Steely Dan!!!

Glad to have you as a sister-in-law, Josie.

David (In the Florida Room), I have a poem which you can add your music to, but I ain't posting it here, dude!

Yep, many times noone is in the ParaChat room.

Quite apparent the studies made about DanFans are from someone never taking (or understanding) statistical analysis techniques.

Keep smiling----put on your favorite Steely Dan album, mellow out, and be productive, GB'ers!!!!


I am definitely proud to be "JustKaty's" husband!!!


Name: Original Lester

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 02:45:33

Dr. Mu: I'm only coming from what I've read in Brian Sweet's "Reelin' in the Years" (I know, that should have been underlined). Sweet makes reference to a young, prodigious Donald whose parents took him to check out a music school, only to have little DF express his objection to becoming a sight reader. Neither Don nor Walt were music readers, but they apparently studied some music theory on their own in Boston and in the early LA days, pre-SD. Also, there is later reference to the fact that Michael Omartian often charted songs for the session players (Katy and beyond) from what Donald was developing on piano, largely because Omartian could do this much faster than Donald could. I have read nothing else to indicate that Becker or Fagen ever became sight readers. It is not at all uncommon for great songwriters to be music illiterate (ie Stevie Wonder). I have come to find that good musicians take one of two routes. The first would be to perfect their command of their instrument, which would necessitate becoming a sight reader. This would be true of most if not all of the session musicians who played with SD. Usually, most of these musicians have little time to write their own songs and are often not good at it anyway when they do try. The second route would be to focus on writing/composing- obviously Don and Walt fit this category. These folks tend to have little time to learn to read music because they are so focused on composing good chord progressions with lyrics.

Geena: I confess that my best friend once showed me some barre chords a few months into my self-instruction. It's not as if I was in a Skinner box with a six-string. One other guy I learned a few things from was a Berklee graduate who was probably good enough to have been an LA session musician, but instead chose to play small cover gigs in Vegas and live with his parents. I assure you, I still don't have a hope in hell of ever being as good as he is. The most important self-teaching tool I ever provided myself with was Beatles songbooks. That changed everything. Word to the wise who intend to try this with SD material- do not refer to the "Steely Dan Complete" songbook for chords on the last three albums, when the progressions became more complex. There are several websites which have more accurate chords.

Now off to bed to "perfect my instrument"--

'til the sun comes through the skylight

Name: JDF
one more thing

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 01:28:22

Herm: Loved the post. How true, how true.

Moody: Leave my sister alone you punk ass, no dick loser!! I think it's sweet, and I think a few other will agree with me that it's nice to see a couple that actually is in love. I know it's a rarity these days, which makes it just that much more indearing. I hate it when people pick on others just because they are jealous of what they have, instead of just being happy for them. Get a clue man...


Name: JosieDanFan
so outrageous!!!

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 01:15:53

Hello Fellow Dan Fans!!!
Good Morning to all!!! I'm only working on three hours sleep in the past 48 of them so please bear with me.
I have to give props to Lisa, she saved my ass with the scanner fiasco. I owe her so big.

KatyDanFan: I can't wait to meet you either sis, are you going to the Dan Fest?
Actually the Best Buy techies at the one I go to have been nothing but wonderful to me,it's just that they practically know me by name. I know a couple of them by name. Paul's kinda cute actually, He helped me out when I deleted my SYS.INI file. And Chris is wonderul when I ask him all the dumb questions about softwear. Shout out to the West Saint Paul Best Buy Techies, you guys are great!!!
I will have to try the Lady DanFan work out program. I know When I have to clean up Dan is definatley the music I put on to get me going. It makes cleaning almost fun!

Geena: I hope you didn't think I was serious about the Dan CD thing. Of course family and pets come first!!

Eli: Although that may be true, I am neither a bull or a dyke. But I really don't see how you think it's not rude to ask. It's none of your business to ask. Besides how could ya really prove that the lovely steely gals are telling the truth, and why would you care? I could be a raging lesbian and you'd never know. Think about it man....

Dangerman: It was an interesting thought, but look what you started!!! It's okay I'm not mad ;o)

David in the Florida Room: Hiya sweetie, I told you I'd send a post your way!! Now get crackin' on that CD so I can give it a listen!! I have no lyrics for you, but I'm sure you will come up with something great, you're a smart and witty man. Talk to you soon.

I must go very. very tired.


Name: TheStranger
feels nice, you're out of the rain

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 22:55:00

geena, rose darling, other moonstruck fans,
my favorite moment in the movie is the end, when the grandfather persuades the reluctant danny aiello to join everyone in a toast & despite all their past quarrels they all raise their glasses 'a la familia.' i know it sounds corny. but it doesn't look corny.

Name: Schwinn

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 22:42:29

Mu: I have to laugh. Fagen, a "Quantitative Genius"? Tell me, what are the qualities of one such?

In case you missed it last year, here is the "Quality" of Mr. Fagen:

One instant's toil to Thee denied
Stands all Eternity's offence,
Of that I did with Thee to guide
To Thee, through Thee, be excellence.
Who, lest all thought of Eden fade,
Bring'st Eden to the craftsman's brain
Godlike to muse o'er his own trade
And Manlike stand with God again.

Go ahead, knock yourself out. Preach the gospel of Einstein with Newtonian models. Keep saying, "but" and "if". I was hoping this would truly be a new year but I'll bet you a million to one I'm outnumbered...



Name: Just Katy

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 22:38:07

Dangerman: Thanks, I enjoyed your post Are you saying I came into the chat room and ignored you? But I wouldn't do that! Every time I've gone there, no one has been there, so I've left. I never saw your name, honest! Next time I will be more careful! And, Dangerman, thank you for chastising me with sensitivity. :)

Just Katy

Name: Just Katy
sneaking in

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 22:25:57

Dangerman: Sorry, never did answer your post, I got all busy with Eli's...I'm female, in case you're still wondering that, and I'm in the northeast!

Eli: I don't blame you for giving us the facts, it was asking others for personal info in the way that you did. I believe you lacked some good judgement but more importantly, showed you had come to your conclusions before your study was over, at least in this GB!

RazorBoy: Hmmm.....I'd like to think that over. I'll be back!

Herm and Stranger: Wow, you two do have a way with words!

David: That sounds great. I would love to write good enough lyrics to be able to stay home and write more!

Beast: I have no problem with you. Honest. You can ignore my post, or just read everything except what I say to my darling husband. Then you should be ok.

EvivaLaughs: Thanks, Eviva! (Hey I thought it was Kinky who was going to pop out of the woodwork one day? Or was that Kinky?)

RoseDarling: loved your post, and I too can identify with the narrator of Charlie Freak, and I'm sure it's why I am so drawn to this song, that and the way that electric piano moves in it.

Original Lester: Remember I told you about the band I was in for a short time? The lead guy, a singer who also played keyboard, had a great voice, wrote all original stuff, couldn't read music at all, was all over the keyboard, had no idea what chords he was playing. Everything fell together for him though, every time. Quite a talented guy, I predict he'll go places. Used to drive me crazy, I wanted names of chords, and notes!

Ole and Geena: Aha....I was actually wondering how long it would take until you might have to take this stance, however veiled it appears to be? No matter, I'm not trying to prove a thing in this GB, just enjoying SteelyDan, my life, having fun and making new friends. But I'll talk to El Supremo about us keeping it all at least at a Medium level, then no one will have to actually run to the john, but merely spit in a can nearby!

Just Katy
"...I know all at once who I am....I'm a bookkeeper's son...I don't wanna shoot no one..."

Name: dangerman

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 21:40:41

Oh. Eviva and Geena. You also. My bad.

Name: Dangerman

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 21:33:28

Hi again to my fellow fans of Dan.

Eli: I must say- you know how to stir up a hornets nest. What you probably meant to say was that "the textbook female Dan fan, although probably in the minority of the male/female ratio, is between 20 and 48, a good looker, and smart as well as clever." Rose, Oleander, and JustKaty, just come out of the screen at me like that-Right?!! (did I leave anybody out, ladies?)

JustKaty: Now look here. How can I say this? Well, it's like this- it's really not polite to ignore me when it's just you and me in the chat room. I speak. You ignore. Not good. Next time, just say "hi. Oh, gotta go. bye" I'm a sensitive sorta guy. But really, it's OK. I'm not "Mr. Diplomat" myself all the time. You'll know me as dangerman from now on. Speak if you like.

Everybody: I'm much to slow at this. I gotta go. I'll try to think of a less dangerous question next time. By the way, Hermit, it's easier to ask the question and get an opinion, cause it really doesn't matter anyway. And it does make for some interesting reading afterwards. Lurking is OK, but lurk rhymes with work, you know.

Happy New Year, my friends in Dan!

Name: DrMu
not your Silent Night-by-Night on the GB
Location: My Old Yule,
Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 20:38:46

Fezo: Don't get me started on DrWu. Fagen's brilliant synth underpinnings beneath those gorgeous chords massaged by Michael Omartian...the repeated themes from the intro reaching synergy with the sax solo...where are my Chesterfield We Three Kings?

Original Lester: Getting back into my easy chair...what's this about Fagen not being able to read music?? You MUST be kidding! - what, he dumped Katz after he was finally able to read and write a chart? Fagen's a quantitative he taught himself to read scales when he was 5...I shudder to think of Fagen in the same league with non (reading) musicians like George Harrison or Rick Wakeman. Being illiterate is nothing to be proud of!!

Razor: If I'm pissed - it's the, yes you guessed it, Razor Boy!...if I'm depressed it the guy in Your Gold Wreath II...if I'm content I'm in Walk Between the Raindrops.

Name: EvivaLaughs
VENTING: future inlaws GRRR !!!

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 19:31:59

Rose: Have you found that to be true? My girlfriends aren't DanFans, but music dedication is high on the list...!

Danger: "survey says..": I'm female. And in the northeast.

Eli: (Is that Elijah or Elizabeth?) I feel like taking the Kevin "I-refuse-to-answer-none-of-your-d*mn-business" Spacey route but to forestall any future misunderstandings: I'm a girl. I'm engaged. To a guy. I'm a massive DanFan and he's not. Does that satiate your curiosity?

Razor: That was a REALLY good question. I'll have to think of a better answer when I'm not dealing with feuding relatives...

HERE'S a question for everyone: If you could transport your future [present?] in-laws into a Dan song, which one would it be?

Back to the email...Sorry about this :( post, I'm in SUCH a funk....

Name: Schwinn

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 19:31:50

There's nothing more powerful than a Hermaphrodite who's been allowed to wear the undergarments of their choice.



Name: Geena
sparkle in your China

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 19:11:39

TheStranger: Moonstruck is also one of my favorite movies. I love the part where Nicholas Cage is at work in the bakery and just finds out that Cher doesn't want to marry him anymore. Do you remember what he says? Have fun skiing, don't freeze your tootsies off!

peg: I was taught to read music in the U.S and Italy. In Italy, we were taught to read notes C, D, E, in the U.S. we were taught both ways and "ti" was pronounced "tee". I didn't know it was also pronounced "si".

This Moody Bastard: Kinkeeeeeeeeeee!!!! you're back, I missed you sweetie and I'm laughing right along with you!!! (disregard if you're not Kinky)

Beast Without A Name: Thanks, whoever you I know you?

Eli: Hi! I'm just curious, how did you get your info? At the last Steely Dan concert I attended, I noticed most of the men appeared to be in their early to late 40's, and some in their 50's, I also noticed a 50/50 mix of men and women. There were also a lot of families in attendance who brought their kids along. Also as far as the women you mentioned as being "bull dykes", did they disclose this information to you? And if they did, does that make a difference? and why would that be an important factor regarding females who listen to Steely Dan? And why is it important to find out about regular female posters personal lives? Like I said, I'm just curious.

Razor Boy: I think I would be Katy from Dr. Wu, since it's my most favorite song as well as my escape.

Herm: great post, you tell it like it is dude! You and the Beast are proof that chivalry is not dead.

Rose Darling: I know I don't mention him very much, but he does read these posts every so often and he does have his opinions which I will not mention either. Did you get married in December too?

Original Lester: I find it amazing that you taught yourself to play guitar. I tried to learn once or twice, but I realized that my hands are too small and I'm not coordinated enough for it. Keep up the good work and good luck with your piano playing!

Name: oleander
a rose is a rose is a rose

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 19:01:28

Pete--Love to hear from you, man, but all you ever do is make me jealous! Post reports & soundbytes from the bash? And any news of the Damned cd?

Razor--Josie. Hands down.

Dangerdude--There are not many things in which I have faith, but The New One is one of them. Check out Pete, the Digest, and the Official Dan Page. I'm also in the Southeast and purport to be female.

Expandin' Herm--I'm confused, hon. I thought the Beast was just the one who pinned first. The VQ (Vituperation Quotient) has been getting dangerously low lately, and when that happens, the karmic balance is all out of whack and devil take the hindmost. He just said what is snivelling in more than one other hindbrain, no offense smoochy couple, and me not necessarily included, but loveydoveyness is not the lingua franca here. But when the VQ does get below the end of the dipstick, someone usually exudes from the oilpan scum and sparks all kinds of responses in kind, like your blistering analysis. And equilibrium is restored. But what confuses me is that what was really the vicious and mean-spirited post was that of Eli, and he perhaps the one who could benefit more from your scalding. Anyway, I like it when you expand.

Dan in the news: Entertainment Weekly, in a review of "The Big Lebowski," said: "Think Steely Dan making a film noir and you're almost there."

Eli--Gertrude Stein was right. She was also a lesbian.

Name: Pete

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 18:20:24

If you're in the New York City area and don't have plans for New Year's Eve, we have a great band at Le Bar Bat this year. The list of Steely Dan past and present players include Drew Zingg on guitar, Tom Barney on bass, and Catherine Russell on vocals. You can check out the complete lineup at

Still no word on the release date of the new album. However, it appears that VH1's working on a Classic Albums documentary on the making of Aja. No word on when that will be out either.

Here's hoping '99's a good year for Dan fans!

I haven't updated in a while, but if you haven't seen it I have an SD picture page at:

Name: original lester

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 17:17:55

Rose Darlin'-

Oh yeah, and I am self taught. I took my first real guitar lesson a year ago, when I realized that my self-instruction had plateaued. I have pretty good command of chords, but I need to improve on playing lead. No other instruments.

What do you call somebody who hangs out with musicians?

A drummer.


Name: Original Lester

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 17:10:01

RD- I've been playing guitar for 10 years. I can play a little piano, but I need to spend more time on it. I have spent my twenties learning guitar, and hope to spend my thirties on piano, recognizing that I may then have to learn to read music. However, I don't know if Fagen ever learned to read music, and he did okay.

Name: Rose Darling
and another thing

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 16:13:23

Dangerman: Regarding, " Know of any differences in where us fans cluster?"
It is my unscientific and untested theory that there are more Dan fans living in or originally from the northeastern United States than possibly anywhere else. My opinion does emanate somewhat from the locales mentioned in this GB. I also noticed my theory applies to Rush and Hall and Oates fans. Go figure.

Name: Rose Darling
@a non-concise, obtuse, non-rant

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 16:00:26

I would say that the most obvious thing which gave me the impression that you were not married was, at least as far back as I've read, I can't remember you mentioning "El Stonata" before. P.S. You've been married one year longer than me.

Moonstruck is one of my favorite movies too. I especially like Grampa with his five doggies. Danny Aiello and Olympia Dukakis shine in that one. So does the actor who plays Olympia's dinner "date" but I can't remember his name. John Gray maybe?

Original Lester:
Just curious: how many years have you been playing music without reading it? Are you self taught? How many types of instruments do you play other than keyboards/guitars and which?

Dr. Mu and Roy:
We'll have to petition the record company to have to include "Any Manger Dude" on the remastered release of "Miracle on Green Flower Street" along with new liner notes.

I have never met any Dan fans in person other than those who post here and my brother, who introduced me to the Dan. I'm in Florida and female, if that helps your analysis. Ask anyone here on this GB how much I need analysis :D !!!
P.S. I do believe I would agree with the observation that there are more serious male fans of the Dan than female.

Eli: Bullsh*t about the bull-dykes! You can't be serious about asking people to reveal their sexual preferences here! And do you think you should believe the answers anyway? How could you even verify ! You make me laugh... And are you joking about Rosie Vela? Well, not that it matters to me or even you, but I am an overwhelmingly dedicated heterosexual female and apparently one of a Dan fan minority ! By the way, it's difficult in the general population to find serious female fans (of any worthy rock/pop/jazz acts) who are willing or interested in discussing their musical interests or the music itself. This has little to do with being a bull dyke but speaks of the contrasting cultural interests of the genders. Could also parallel the overwhelming number of males to female participants in the musical professions.

An uncharacteristically torching post by you but nevertheless highly entertaining and possibly right on the money.

Razor: re: transposing oneself into a Dan character
Another excellent topic posed by you, again. Can't say I'm sure that I'd really want to be Rose Darling though I like the attention and emotion she inspires in the song. More likely, and perhaps unglamorously, I'd be the narrator (of Charlie Freak) who obviously has a warm soul and compassion for the downtrodden one whose tale he relates. And I definitely feel like the narrators of "King of the World"and, of course, "Any World."

Name: fezo

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 15:36:12

Sociable Hermit: Wow, man, your post was just too good. Do you mind being my surrogate for concise and non-obtuse rants for the occassional fakers and fools who intrude in the GB? My attempts at scolding always drown in legalese.

I'd like to be the guy in "My Rival". He seems very attuned to what's going around him. He probably takes his paranoia a bit too far by getting "detectives on the case" but he's definitely clued in to the world.

Late nomination for disc of the year: "Buena Vista Social Club". Ry Cooder gathered a bunch of ageing Havana musicians in the studio and put out some timeless tunes

Late nomination for disc of the year as indicated by the music press which I just don't get: Rufus Wainwright's debut. Anybody out there heard it and can explain its appeal? I'm clueless.

Name: EvivaLaughs
my fourth b@d mood of 1998

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 15:23:02

Ah, I see Kinky's back.

Beast: leave Katy alone, wench.

Eli: no offense, but it's sort of a pointless question, no? You don't even know if we're even WOMEN, much less if we're lesbians or not. What I'm wondering is why you brought up the question. Feeling a little lonely there, guy (or gal)?

Razor: Ruby had the right idea. What the hey--I'll take "Walk Between Raindrops."
I feel better already :). Thanks!

Name: David in the Florida Room

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 15:15:28

Hey Hermit- that was some post my friend...As a guy who writes songs and Idolizes Steely Dan I must tip my Fedora dude!
As a matter of fact,Quite a few of you folks and I mean Ladies and Gentleman have a gift for eloquence of speach and I'm thinking you may want to offer some lyric Ideas.I mean why waste that venom? If you're Interested,you all know where to find in my Florida Room/Studio struggling to finish my CD!
I'm Serious about this...I can play my ass off but i didn't get that degree in English Lit! So anyone having suitable material I promise, If I use it, you will be credited...remember I'm a Gentleman.

And the rest of you May have a laugh on my account

Name: TheStranger
lay down your jackson

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 14:33:05

it was kind of you to try to inspire moody bastard to leave his basement, but i doubt it will work. m.b. is, i fear, neither fish nor fowl -- one of those deeply embittered beings whose sexual longings are so deeply repressed they're not sure what they are. ralph nader and ed koch were both followed for some time by private dicks (as opposed to public dicks like peewee herman) and no sexual activity of any kind with man, beast or woman was ever detected. i believe m.b. is one of these poor souls. he needs our compassion. happy new year, moody bastard. may you get drunk enough to hire a male hooker.

Name: RubyBaby
in my L@rk

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 14:19:05

I'm transposed.
I'm the Broadway Duchess!

You may never walk again...


Name: Razor Boy

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 14:02:35

Sorry about the poor diction. For some reasons I can't see the entire screen when writing out my posting. It should read, "If given the choice to be transposed..."

Name: Razor Boy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 13:59:04

Just a little imagery as we wind down another year, ifto be given the choice of being transposed as a character in a Steely Dan song, which one would you select. Note: As poser of the question, I disqualify perhaps the more obvious "Centrury's End." "Glamour Profession" would be one of my favourites, because of all the things that people are doing in that piece are things I probably will never do. Hmm..."Babylon Sisters" sounds appealing as well. It much more fun to escape into something, then grip with reality all the time.

Pleasant musing Guest Bookers.


Name: Sociable Hermit
4th Control Group To The Left

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 12:57:44

Hi All,

What happened to all that Christmas cheer from a week ago? If it's just a matter of it all being drained, then, please, go to you closest liquor store and buy some more.

Dangerman, or Eli, or whoever the hell it was:
If you want to find out what age, sex, and sexual preference the fine folk of the GB are, you don't even need to ask. All you need to do is lurk for a few weeks. In that short stretch of time, you will probably have heard from everyone, and discerned all of the answers to your every question. But, as someone already queried, "Why"? Why and what do you care? If you are legitamately doing a study, you never gave a valid explanation in any of your postings. You could bypass a lot of aggrevation and resistance by merely hanging out, reading, and then casually asking. See, I only read one post by Moody Bastard, and I can already tell without the need of inquiry that he is a shallow, self-centered prick who has problems with intimacy, maybe because he is unable to attempt any due to the fact that his repugnant personality never allows him more than a one paragraph conversation with women. My guess is that if he appraoched a hooker and asked, "How much?", she would tell him to save the money and go fuck himself, based only on his vocal tone and body language. But, this is only my opinion. I could be wrong. Although it was my inate ability to see the truth that led me to my cave. Moody Bastard is the type of fellow that enters a yuppie bar, knowing that he is inferior to all the other men in both looks, charm, grace, intelligance and finance, and instead of finding another bar or another angle to find women, he spends his time spitting venom at both sexes, summarily getting him spit back at, ridiculed, kicked out and beaten up. He is also the type of guy who recognizes himself when described by others, say, in a GB posting, but is too vain to admit it, and too self-absorbed in himself to ever change into the type of person that people could merely tolerate.
There aren't too many of these people in this site, but, as in society of any size, there are always bound to be a few aberrations from the rest of the erect, two-thumbed world. Moody Bastard is also probably fixed in one of two possible financial worlds: He is either the owner of the bar, and pissed that his money can't buy him the needed happiness he so drastically craves, or he is unemployed and living in his mothers basement apartment across the street from the bar, forever drinkink warm Falstaff from a can and pissing and moaning to himself and the lady he knows on a first name basis at the suicide prevention line.
Well, gotta go. Hope this helps you.



Name: A Moody Bastard
Yep, it's me!

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 10:54:54


a few of the men who post here are homophobic and childish. Homosexuality seems to occupy their thought processes constantly.

Also stop writing that sickening, mushy, make-me-vomit crap, you silly twit, even if it is your husband. Go to another web site where they care. A couple tried that in here a few months back and were flamed to hell. You'll notice they don't do it anymore, I also think they even hate each other now.

Beast With No Name

You got a problem with me?

Name: Donovan Gross

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 10:42:55

just wanted to chat with some fellow fans and check out the page. p.s. where can I find chord charts or even sheet music?

Name: Eli
just the facts

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 10:37:45

JustKaty- Congrats, you are not one out of the seven out of ten female Dan fans that are lesbians.

Don't forget, Dangerman asked if anyone had a breakdown of male to female Dan fans. I never felt the need to bring up the subject till Dangerman asked. I just happened to reply to his question.

Please don't blame me for giving you the facts. It could be the name of the group that grabs the attention of lesbians around the world.


Name: Eli
wide awake

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 09:47:50

Samuel- I do believe Dangerman did call me, so it's you my friend, that must go back to sleep.


Name: JustKaty

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 09:45:17

Eli: With all due respect, I'm not sure why you have a need to know. I mean, what is your point? That a "real" woman probably would not be that interested in SteelyDan? That people sometimes don't tell everything about themselves to people on the internet? That people don't always mention their sexual preferences to those not directly involved with their choices? Duhhh...

It occurs to me also that if you're doing a scientific study, why not simply ask those who are willing, to identify themselves as to their preferences, to further your database, rather than make what appear as disparaging remarks about the SD population as a whole?

If you feel somehow misled or lied to here, and it bothers you, then you may be happier with another bunch of people to talk with?

And I really just came on today to say something to my husband, when you got me distracted with that silly post, Eli. Think about it.

El Supremo: Just wanted to thank you for dancing with me into the night last night, sweetheart. It was the BEST dance party I've been to ever in my life! I wonder if SD knows they bring out the best dancing in all of us DancingDanFans!! I love you so much!

Oops, now I gave Eli a clue about two of us! He's going to know we are a Man and a Woman, "real" ones! Unless we're lying, of course.

Just Katy :)
All right, oh yeah, uh huh.....

Name: peg

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 09:13:53

Eli: I *never* tell the truth about my personal life on this guestbook. It's all lies, lies and more lies.

Name: Samuel, Samuel
projection junction, what's your function

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 03:31:26

Eli: We didn't call you, my son. Go back to bed.

Name: Nappy Hair
On the 4th day of Kwanzaa, my true love gave to me...

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 03:22:59

Cooperative Economics (Ujaama): it was free.

Name: Eli
I'm glad you asked

Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 at 00:44:52

Dangerman- I've done a study on the male/female breakdown of Steely Dan fans.

a) For every 50 male dan fans, there is one female dan fan.

b) Out of the 50 male dan fans 85% are in their late 30's/early 40's and are experiencing some type of male pattern baldness.

c) Out of the one to 50 female to male dan fans, 7 out of 10 of the females are Bull-Dykes.

I've conducted this study over the last 10 years and have went to many shows as well as interviewing lots of famous and not so famous Dan fans. Ricki lee Jones called Steely Dan "Boy Music"

The general consensus from my study shows that female singer/model/Steely Dan fan Rosie Vela makes up for about 90% of the bull-dyke/ lesbian Steely Dan population.

I would like to know out of the 8-10 females that post to this guestbook on a regular basis, how many are not telling the truth when it comes to their personal lives. It seems as though there's more here to this subject then meets the eye.

Thank You,

Name: Dangerman

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 20:40:33

I've breezed thru this site off and on for a few months and as much as I love SD music(beginning in those formative college years), I'm really impressed with the thinking that goes into their music (by my fellow fans.) I just got to thinking...I wonder what the male/female Dan fan breakdown might be? Anybody got a feel for that. For some reason, I think it might really lean toward the male side, but maybe it's because I don't really run into any outspoken Dan fans in everyday life (besides myself), and certainly don't remember meeting any females that were much concerned. Please tell me I've led a shielded life. What about geography? What region of the U.S. are you guys in. I'm in the SE. Know of any differences in where us fans cluster?
I see people refer to the next concert and/or album. You can't kid me on the album. I don't think we'll ever see another. At least not any new music. But what about a concert- I think they might cash in on that again. Anything for sure gonna happen? I'd like to believe it...

Name: KatyDanFan

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 19:52:22

Original Lester: You've got mail!

Just Katy

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 19:36:18

I love the Dan, man. Also a big fan of Dire Straits and The Police. Anybody with funky quirks or info about Dan, would be interested in hearing aout them. I don't know what all you're s'possed to write in here. I'm 19, originally from Newport Beach, CA. In the Air Force, as exciting as that is. Anyway. Be cool.

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 19:35:04

I love the Dan, man. Also a big fan of Dire Straits and The Police. Anybody with funky quirks or info about Dan, would be interested in hearing aout them. I don't know what all you're s'possed to write in here. I'm 19, originally from Newport Beach, CA. In the Air Force, as exciting as that is. Anyway. Be cool.

Name: Original Lester

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 19:23:33

Just Katy:

How's 'bout if I give you a correct address for me, shown above?

Name: JustKaty
still resting!

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 19:23:05

El Supremo: Actually I would much rather dance "with" you than "for" you. To be honest, I don't like to have an audience when I dance, it interferes with sensing everything in the music, so don't bring a video home, unless you want to be in the video, too! Hmmm.....right now it's Third World Man, a slow one, so while we're figuring out what to do,.may I have this dance, sweetheart?

Just Katy :)

Name: Original Lester

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 19:21:22

Just Katy:

How's 'bout a real email address? Important questions.

Name: Beast Without A Name

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 18:43:49

Moody Bastard - who asked you asshole?

Leave my sweet friend Geena alone and deal with me, ok?

Name: This Moody Bastard
ask a silly question@Clas-less

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 18:25:38

Geena: what gave us the impression you were single? Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha. Uh-yah. Whatever.

Name: FanOfDan
Don't take me alive

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 18:24:27

Can't wait for the '99 Concert Tour! And the new album due out this spring/summer! I am in serious withdrawal. Thank God for my Box Set!!!!!!

Name: El Supremo
well, I've been around the world, and I've been in the Washington
Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 17:02:01

Hello, DanFanDom!!!

JustKaty, sounds like a GREAT workout for all-of-us to do, kiddo!! Hmmm, seems like in "Show Biz Kids" there is the line, "you don't have to dance for me, I've seen you dance before."

Perhaps it was "Your Gold Teeth"?? Anyway, wife-of-life, someone in this Guestbook will straighten me out on the song, I am most definitely certain!!!



P.S.: Should I bring a few more videotape "blanks", JustKaty??

Name: JustKaty
nostalgia strikes again

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 15:30:07

RoyScam: YES, as I read your post it was all coming back, and I too was older then, and am younger than that now. (One of my favorites the Byrds sang!) Thanks for that trip back in time!

True confession: Today was the day I cleaned up whatever I didn't get to over the weekend! I had the luxury of being able to wait until today since I have the entire week off. (Don't Take Me Alive) Here by myself, I put on the tapes, including concerts from St. Louis and also Saratoga, New York Performing Arts Center. It started with the Royal Scam/Bad Sneaker instrumental and the music was so moving, I just had to dance! And every time there was a great dancing beat, I slipped into the spare room with the parquet floor and after awhile I just never left that room-----how could I with IGY, Josie, Hey Nineteen, Deacon Blues, My Old School and a bunch of others that kept beckoning me. No matter how often I've heard these songs, I cannot get over how great they are, how you can sit and listen or jump up and dance and have the greatest time either way. But today was a dancing day! A marathon! And girls, I'd definitely recommend this, though I'll bet most of you already do this. In between I got my work done and hardly even remember doing it, plus, the best part is I didn't have to go play aerobic workout was so complete I had that very satisfied/ physically tired feeling instead of the mentally tired state I'm usually in after a work day. That's it......I quit my job! Is there a market for Dancing DanFans?

El Supremo: I'm so glad you have every SteelyDan song they ever recorded, the concerts, everything! Sorry you missed all this, since you were working today, sweetie, but I promise I will dance for you as soon as I get some energy again! In fact,....I need you, by me, beside me, to guide me, to hold me, control me, cause when I'm bad I'm oh so, Let's dance, let's dance.......tonight!

Just KatyDancingDanFan

Name: DrMu
left of the Rio Grande

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 15:29:47

Roy: Si

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 14:38:30

Cruiser: Congrats and condolences. Lean on the positive.

Rose: Forgot to mention my admiration and amusement over the Steely Christmas song list. Dr. Mu : Was that you who came up with "Any Manger Dude" last Christmas season?

Peg: Ti ... a drink with jam and bread. What kind of misguided person would drink Si with jam and bread?

Katy Dan Fan: In the early to mid 60's, Dylan and the Byrds had a synergistic (sp?) relationship. He wrote great songs like "All I Really Wanna Do", "My Back Pages", and "Mr. Tambourine Man" and they made electric pop versions of them. This was before Dylan got his chops as a recording artist and the Byrds (McGuinn and Crosby) hit full stride as songwriters. At least, that's the way I remember it; ah but I was so much older then; I'm younger than that now.

Oleander: Boss vacation. Next time we all go there together and crash the Caves of Altamira. We'll have the most illegal Danfest yet.

fezo: Ah yes, Danfest II. Back in ... '98 wasn't it? The most physically punishing of all the Steely related get togethers. That was before we all learned how to have a Danvention without alienating our loved ones.


Name: fezo

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 10:32:54

Listening to Dr. Wu last night, hit repeat on the remote and got to hear it again and again and again . . . heard for the first time how the awesome sax solo in the middle actually bleeds into the vocal when the latter picks up again. It's a cool effect, almost fakes the listener out, starting to fade away then comes back real quick for one last burst when the vocal starts.

Besides "Box of Rain", another Dead song that's good for emotional solace is "Muddy River"; has always painted for me a slow trip into the afterlife where all your friends and peace awaits.

Name: YGK
Location: New York, NY
Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 10:02:48

Greetings and happy holidays, folks...

(brief shameless promo(
If you're interested in seeing some new emerging Artists on the web, check out my organization at

Happy New Year Everyone!


Name: Nappy Hair
On the 3rd day of Kwanzaa, my true love gave to me...

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 06:49:18

Shared work and responsibility.


Name: JustKaty
Yahoo, no school this

Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 at 06:39:59

Original Lester: Congrats on your equipment and good luck in your learning, it's obvious you're in this with your heart and soul, and I hope your music takes you all the places you want to go! When the Beatles came on the scene I decided I wanted to be in a band, too, and I was once, for a short time. Still a dream of mine. I played the keyboard. I know the stratocaster is one that is chosen by talented guitar players!

Ditto to all comments regarding Deacon Blues, wow from the moment I ever heard that, I've NEVER gotten tired of it. Of course that seems to be true of most of the Dan songs, hmm, yet Deacon Blues is in a category of its own somehow, it's true.

Geena: Keep those Italian family stories coming ! Great entertainment on here. And yes, I had wondered about Dylan being the writer, because I do know he's written so many songs that others have performed. What a mind he has!

Oleander: Gee, now I want to go to Spain, that's so interesting about the Caves of Altamira, must have been fantastic to be that close to them, as well as experience the archeology museum, Your description made it so real!

RubyBaby: You mean there was mush here before El Supremo and me? Oh my. Thanks for your love and lack of complaint. We found each other after too many years of some real tough times for each of us so, yes, be happy for us. Some of you no doubt found your true love long ago, we're glad for that......we are just discovering all of that with each other "for the first time." We thank God every day that he brought us together. For those of you still looking, let us encourage you---it happened to us, it can happen to you, too!

Dr. Mu: I just loved that comment to Midnite Cruiser!

Hans: Welcome! Clas is the first person I "talked with" on here, so tell him I've been looking for him to return! And Hans, I think ya got the makings of a true DanFan! Stick around!

Josie: Great being your sister, too! I'm looking forward to meeting you someday!! (Best Buy techies....oh, groans, they know me well, too.)

El Supremo: Which SD set are we listening to today, sweetie?

Just Katy :)

" can try to run, but you can't hide from what's inside of you.."

Name: Original Lester
More Musical Notes

Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 23:51:01

I agree wholeheartedly w/you on Deacon Blues. What you asserted about the song's beauty is what I have felt for over three years now. I believe it is the best of all SD songs, and it got me through the failure of my previous relationship. It may, in fact, be my favorite song of all time, and it may also be the closest thing to perfection in songwriting and composing. Of course, there was Mozart. I am quite sure there are no trumpets on the song, and Fagen's synth would probably be the culprit in producing any trumpet-like sound, which I assume you are hearing in the bridge.

Name: Original Lester

Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 23:38:58

Peg: Although I can't read music, "ti."

My Roland is a JC90 80 watt amp. I have a Takamine electric/acoustic which is equipped with its own equalizer. I also have a stratocaster, which I intend to put to greater use. The chorus settings are beautiful, producing the warm, clean sound I have been seeking. The amp basically gives you everything a Fender would, and then some. It may not play as dirty as a Fender would, but that's not what I'm looking for. Oddly enough, the salesman from whom my girlfriend bought the amp persuaded her to front $20 for a distortion pedal. What silliness. As for what non-Dan music I would be playing, I love Stevie Wonder, the Beatles, and i'm getting into EWF. I'm finally going to the trouble of taking instruction, and I would like to learn songs by Cole Porter, Sammy Cahn, Gershwin--- basically songs Sinatra would sing. Cheesy though many of these songs may be, they are great to learn by. Anything on a '99 tour yet?

Original Les

Name: peg
Location: San Diego, CA
Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 23:10:05

I just had dinner with some friends from France and Colombia, and we were talking about how music is taught in various countries.

They've been conducting an informal survey: for those of you who learned to read music in a country other than the U.S., we're curious to know 1) did you learn the notes as C, D, E, etc., or as do, re, mi, etc., and, 2) if you learned them as the latter, was the second to last note taught as "ti" or "si", and 3) indicate the country in which you were taught to read music.

Whoa... too much coffee

Name: TheStranger
off to freeze tootsies for a day of skiing tomorrow

Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 22:17:44

i hope you don't see this post twice. my internet secretary is off and i hit a bad key or something. anyway --

yes, you have found other people who get deacon blues.

midnight cruiser,
sorry about your father. 'box of rain' on grateful dead's american beauty is phil lesch's tribute to his father. you may want to give it a listen. it's not great, but heartfelt.

spent some weeks in barcelona once. long story. anyway, nobody ate before 10 pm. we'd go into a restuarant at 8 for dinner and the crew would stare at us like we were just off the set of hee haw.

i guess you saw moonstruck, one of my favorite movies. glad your house was saved. times like these and you learn what's important in life. like polo ponies and porsches and rolexes. NOT

Name: Geena
I don't wanna go to work tomorrow

Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 20:03:22

Hello all! Nothing exciting to report today, it's been pretty quiet since the night of the fire. Maybe things will be quiet from here on, I can sure use it.

KatyDanFan: That was no monologue, my family is really like that. Anytime you see a movie with an Italian family sitting around the table fighting and of course, eating, that's my life in a nutshell. I see humor in them now.

I know the words to that song came from the Bible, just couldn't remember where. I have the Byrds album with that song on it and where the lyricists name is supposed to me, there is a question mark, but the words are true to my beliefs and always comfort me in bad times.

JosieDanFan: I didn't stop to think about what I needed to take with me because I knew it was only a safety precaution, I was more concerned with getting my husband, my cats and myself out of the house, but had it been directly next door, I would have been more worried, I think. Everything except lives are replaceable, even my most cherished Steely Dan CDs, albums and cassettes. I guess none of us know how we are going to react to a situation like this until we're in it. I really feel bad for the family that lost their home. I don't really know them well, but I hope they have somewhere to stay.

Nappy Hair: Are you Kinky? Happy Kwanzaa!

Hans: Clas has a mansion and not a small country cottage? Hmmmm.....interesting. Please tell Clas that we've missed him and hope he gets back to work soon so he can post his daily musings from his updated computer at his office. Thanks for delivering his message.

RubyBaby: My life is one event after another. That carrier is big enough for two cats and I had to put the two that get along well with each other in it. What I have to laugh at is trying to find a black cat in the dark, his shiny eyes gave him away. And yes, I know He was with me. Now a question for you my dear friend. May I ask what you were smoking the night you had that crazy dream about Clas?

ole!!!-ander: I'm glad you had such a wonderful time in Spain. Your post made me feel like I was right there with you.

Rose Darling: I've been married for...ahem...14 years. We just celebrated our 14th on December 1. What gave you the impression that I was single, could it be that I'm still crazy after all these years? Well, hubby can be a little "stonata" (italian for dunderhead) at times, and his hair may be graying,and he does piss me off at times, but there is no one like him on earth, at least no one that can put up with me, that is.

When the moon hits your eye.........

Name: Rose Darling
@almost partying like it's 1999

Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 17:22:19

Just performed for the third year in a row in the local community production of The Messiah. Worked myself up to performing one of the recits, maybe next year an alto air, who knows. Compelling and joyous music, yes?
Interesante highlights de espana there.

midnite cruiser:
Condolences on the loss of your dad.
Say, when are we throwing your bachelor party in the chat room, oh engaged one?

WHOA! Was I missing something all this time (besides a few marbles) but did I just see you mention you have a hubby??????
You're married !?!?!?! I mean, the night of inferno there was one thing, but now I'm really falling off my chair. I for some reason was under the impression that you were single.

Glad to see you around, girl. My long holiday weekend was, unfortunately, not long enough. You?

Name: oleander
under the rubybaby global positioning system

Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 15:57:07

Kind of a concatenation of losses and near misses--death, fire, car crash--I am grateful for you survivors, having had a couple near misses myself, and Midnite, sorry for your loss.

KDF--um, Bob Dylan did indeed pen that particular tune, and his repertoire is indeed worth getting to know.

RS--Get you a frizz wig and a harp holder, hon, and I couldn't tell you apart!

Not that anybody cares, but while I was gone I went to Spain. I guess I could bore you with umpteen kids-do-the-darndest-things-when-they're-in-faraway-lands stories or 120 poorly-taken family photos in exotic locales, but I know all you're interested in is the Steely tie-ins. Herewith:

1. Hearkening back to a longago 20-hour Danless drive, I did not go unDanned this time. I took along Aja, the remastered CTE, and YGWILYTI, and dipped into them as needed. With a little perspective, Aja & CTE were better than ever. YGWILYTI is just bad, mostly, but fun.

2. In Sevilla, I stood in awe under 75-foot-tall banyan trees & hummed along.

3. We ate frequently at a sidewalk cafe called Altamira--tapas & paella at ten, gotta top Szechuan dumplings at Mr. Chow's....

4. Speaking of Altamira, las Cuevas de Altamira are off-limits now, as they are a Spanish national treasure protected from the degrading breath of panting tourists. And I was about 30 km from them! I made do with a visit to the Museo Arqueologico in Madrid, which has a perfect replica of part of the Altamira paintings in a cavelike room, with a low wooden bench on which you can semirecline in semidarkness and imagine yourself in a loincloth with native pigments.... They are stupendous, and it was wonderful to make out each animal slowly in the primitive halflight. What you miss in pictures is that these geniuses made some of the bison/ cattle conform to the curves of the rock, so that where rock bulged, so did their leaping withers and haunches.... You could feel the insatiable drive of the imagination and creativity which could draw furry angels in the dark. Next time I want to do a cave painting tour of Europe.

5. There were neither gauchos nor tango, but flamenco is just as sensuously cerebral and lives in the smoldering heart of Andalusian culture.

6. I kept thinking of Bunuel's "Andalusian Dog," especially in Sevilla and when we went to the Reina Sofia in Madrid and gawked at the surrealists.... Saw El Guernica of Picasso, one of my peak experiences ever. (Steely tie-in--um, "downer surrealism?" They MUST have loved the surrealists.)

7. Count0--Picked up a copy of "Neuromancer" in Spanish ("Neuromante"), not that I'm likely to wade through it, but it was just so cool. I did not see "Reelin' In The Years" on the Spanish bookshelves.

8. There was a 19th century Sevillan romantic poet named Gustavo Adolfo Becquer. Any relation, I wonder? I got a bunch of his stuff, but it's all in Spanish. Wading through poetry is even harder than prose, but try this:

I am the invisible
ring which subjects
the world of form
to the world of the idea

Sounds like a Steely recording session!

9. On the way back, I wished for that 90 minute trip promised in "IGY."

A good time was had by all.

The End.


Name: RubyBaby

Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 15:19:27

MidniteCruiser: A warm hug to you.

Geena: You sure have eventful holidays! I'm so glad you & yours are OK! I hope you don't mind, but I had to smile at the vision of 2 cats stuffed into 1 carrier...I think you will be able to laugh about the whole thing later. Trust me.

And listen here, Catholic Girl - healthy venting after an Italian Christmas is good! I don't believe the good Lord minds, either. He was there with you, remember?

Clas: Guess what? My Mr. P got me a video cam for Christmas! Now I can film a few CA things & dubb some music over the sound. May I have your permission to use your music? I'd love to use Pompe's Be-Bop-Bodega.

You were in my dream last night. You had on this silly bathrobe and were eating chocolate covered peanuts. We went to an opera. And you & Lena were trying to rescue your son from an evil empire. That's all I can remember.

KatyDF & El Supremo: I was beginning to blush, too. How long have you 2 been married - ten minutes? Just kidding. I'm not complaining, I just wasn't ready for all that mush on here again!
Love ya!

Eviva: I'm not sure how people get a song that's "our song". Do they sit down & discuss which song they want, or do they just have this revelation that "hey, they're playing our song!" ?
My loved one didn't want a song until he realized it was important to me. Then, he didn't know how to come up with one without blundering so he avoided the issue for years. Finally, I Communicated to him that I've always loved that 1st tape he made me back when we were dating. We both happen to think of the same song as our favorite. Ta da!
See how important the C word is?

Walter Becker: today is an 11 Tracks of Whack day. You never sounded better! I know why it didn't sell as well as it should have - you released it too soon. You're a bit ahead of your time.
(Also, a parental warning label does wonders for sales. They could have marketed you better.)
But thanks for the tunes. You're a genious.


Name: The Joker
Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 14:51:50

Another wild Dan fan glad to be aboard. I consider myself to be the biggest "Deacon Blues" fanatic in the galaxy; to me, there is no more perfectly balanced, melodically-scripted and wonderfully-arranged tune in existence. One question for any Dan fan out there: there are no trumpet credits on the liner notes of "Deacon Blues" - are those horns (and I'm not referring to Pete Christlieb's sax solos) or Fagan's synthesizer we're hearing? Anyway, let me know your thoughts! Caio (from Mr. Chow's!!)

Name: DrMu

Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 13:53:46

Midnite: He's in the world we're all welcome to

Name: Hans
Location: Stockholm, AA Sweden
Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 11:21:52

Dear Stranger Steely Dan GuestBook.
This is my first time participating on this site. Hopefully not my last. I was once a big fan of Steely Dan (tho´I thought it was a London Band!) But in my first divorce I lost all the LP:s and then ol´Steely fell out and away.
The main reason for this little message tho´ is that one of my dearest friends and one of the most sincere participants here needs my help.
Swedish "Clas" is stranded in his country mansion with only an old 486 pc and an ancient modem. Seems that the Stelly Dan Website has upgraded its software and made it impossible for him to deliver his daily report with his ancient country mansion hardware.
So he gets on the ancient phone with a request to me for help and since it is x-mas I, of course, can not refuse to help out.
Clas sends all his enormous love to everyone, especially to "all the girls". So relax all of you, Clas is with you, in spirit, if not in hardware!!!
All the best

Hans the Swedish Forward

Name: EvivaLaughs

Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 10:53:43

Midnite: I'm VERY sorry to hear about your dad. Don't know what to say, except I hope that you and the rest of your family are pulling together and doing OK. Hope your niece is bringing you some comfort.

Jesus: It's wonderful to see You honored on this GB! Your question? I, um, I thought we WERE the presents...

Geena: I'm glad your family and the rest of the neighborhood are OK! MAN that was a close call!

Ruby: I'm embarrassed to say we don't have "a song" togethah--yet anyway! Any suggestions (I do have **a few** ideas)!!

Nappy Hair: cool! Keep it up...!

Rose: welcome was your holiday?

Name: fezo

Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 10:13:15

Midnite: Sorry about the loss of your father. Try not to let the pain of the loss cloud your vision such that you don't see (and derive comfort from) the family and friends that remain.

Name: David in the Florida Room

Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 08:48:56

Original Lester, Just wanted to say...Fine Choice of Amps on the Roland Jazz Chorus...very sweet piece of gear Sir! which model/Wattage? Classic like a Fender blackface Twin or Super...but more modern and dependable...and I think even better sounding. David

Name: Nappy Hair
On the 2nd day of Kwanzaa, my true love gave to me...

Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 04:23:50

...Kujichagulia, just for me.


Name: Bernadette Peterbuilt

Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 00:23:02

Hey, I ain't no mud-flap girl!

Name: JosieDanFan
When the demon is at your door...

Date: Sunday, December 27, 1998 at 00:18:28

One more post before I leave you all alone for now.

Midnight: I wasn't ignoring your post. I just didn't know what words of comfort I could give, that would make it seem better or alright. Truth is, when you lose someone close to you, there isn't anything anyone who didn't know the person can say to make it better. All I can say is: I've been there, it's rough. Especially this time of year, but it get better. My one piece of advice is, share the good times with your family and friends, cherish them, keep them close and let them know how much you care. (I should listen to my own advice!!)The one good thing I can say about my own fathers passing is that he knew he was loved and cherished by me as well as my brothers and mother, and we knew we were loved. Good luck my friend, I'll be thinking about you and you'll be in my prayers tonight.

Name: JosieDanFan
DanFan"Babylon"Sisters..shake it!!

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 22:51:19

Lisa:Thanks a bunch..I'll get that info to you quick.

Katy: I'm so happy.. I never had a sister!! Until now of course,
and thank you for the advice. The Best Buy techies know me very well, I'm sure they're glad for the business!

Geena: OMG!! I'm so glad you are okay. I recall once when I had to go through something very similar. I used to thing that I would get out my most cherished paintings that my father did, but when it really did happen, I forgot about those and was concerned more for the health and safety of my loved ones. I know that sounds kinda bad, but since my father died, it was all I had left of him. Now though, going through a fire scare, made me more grateful for the people (and animals) I still have.
I'm just glad you are all alright!!! Did you run for the Steely CD's after you got your family out?


Name: JustKaty

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 21:14:07

Geena: Upon submitting my post, I read your new one and saw the ending of your Christmas Day, wow. So glad you, your hubby, the cats, and your home survived the night I pray that your next week and the entire New Year is uneventful for you as far as experiences like this are concerned! Also, Geena, when I realize you reprinted the words to the song I mentioned, (and we should give credit for it appearing first in Ecclesiastes, of course) I saw that David must be correct about the intelligence of the SD ladies in here. We even think alike! Thanks for typing the entire song, I enjoyed being able to read it again while it's on my mind.

Just Katy :)

Name: KatyDanFan
Definitely blushing .com

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 20:54:36

El Supremo: Well, my face is still kinda red from blushing, but I will say that ummm....I am equally happy to be your wife and I cherish all those same moments with you. May they go on and on.....

JosieDanFan: Then it's a deal! You got me, and I'll try my best to not even get lost! About the scanner, I tend to lapse into a certain language when that stuff happens; I think you handled it admirably and that you'll be rewarded a scanner that is up and running soon, somehow. My advice? Start by calling the place you bought it, get the "techie" to the phone, and tell the truth (in other words, ask dumb questions) about it, which for me has gotten needed help and yes-----I did notice they seemed to have no trouble believing that I "had no clue." Even when I really did have some clues, lol. Maybe we should try taking the Powder Puff Computer course together, sister??

Geena: You tell great stories, I was giggling as I read the antics of that Italian family of yours. It sounded like a monologue, I pictured you sitting on a stool up on the stage. As for feeling fat, yep, no more eating for me until the New Year, well, maybe a few hours before midnight, when more partying begins!

Original Lester: Sounds exciting, that new amp. What do you play out of it? And what other music do you play besides SD? (Raising up my glass!)

David: Thank you from all of us lady DanFans for your comments about our intelligence! Collectively speaking, we must add up to a pretty high number, let's see 150 times how many women in here?? ( But I must say I would give Oleander 50 more points than the rest of us, I've read her lyric interpretations!) This comment might bring Kinky the shredder out, so just blame it all on David, HE said it!

Oleander: I love Handel's Messiah also. I was fortunate enough to be in a few choirs to sing that and those are memories I cherish. I understood exactly what you meant about the goosebumps.

RoyScam: Now that was a great little Lament you wrote, and I "heard" it to the tune of Tambourine Man with no trouble; it was just right! But wasn't it the Byrd's who did Tambourine Man, I don't remember Bob Dylan with that, ....did he sing it even before the Byrd's or, is he perhaps the one who wrote it? (I was such a LITTLE girl then, that's why I can hardly remember! NOT) Speaking of Bob Dylan, he was always another favorite of mine. I"m pretty sure I came home from practicing the Messiah, to listen to Bob Dylan's music, in fact!

Midnite Cruiser: So often it happens that way. El Supremo and I send a welcome to your niece Haley and also our condolences to you about your Dad. Very tough at the holidays, gee. This reminds me again of the Byrd"s with their "To everything ......there is a season...." which I believe kinda says it all, too. Hang in there.

Just Katy :)
" the world that we used to know....people tell me it don't turn no more...."

Name: Geena
One more canoli left and I'm on a diet

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 20:37:20

After all my kvetching about my family yesterday, I think my Lord Master decided to punish me (ok, so my catholic guilt is showing). Around 3AM, I was startled out of bed by the sound of the doorbell ringing and banging at my door. Naturally I send hubby downstairs while I get the Louisville Slugger out from under the bed and start loading his service revolver, not that I know how to use it, I just know how to load them. I looked out the window and saw 7 Fire Trucks, 3 police cruisers and a Red Cross Disaster Relief Truck parked in front of my house. Suddenly the smell of smoke starts permeating my home, my husband runs back upstairs, tells me to get dressed, get the cats, we had to evacuate. The house two doors from mine was on fire and since our houses are so close together and it was windy, the fire dept. asked us to leave. We got two cats in one carrier, the electricity is shut off and we're trying to find my black cat in the dark. If it wasn't for the red light from the fire trucks illuminating the room like a disco hall, I wouldn't have spotted him hiding in the closet. I threw him in another carrier and out we went into the 17 degree night. We packed the kids into the van and moved it out of the driveway. We couldn't get back into the house until 11AM.

The Red Cross asked us if we had a place to stay, should our house catch fire, if not they would put us up in a shelter. This frightened me and all I could think of was if we had enough fire insurance. To make a long night and long story short, my house and the house next door were saved, we just have a stinky smokey smell everywhere, but the house that caught fire is ruined. Thank God no one was hurt.

Ole: Thanks for offering your services gratis, you are always welcome here, but you might want to visit Stranger first, he lives in a warmer climate.

Straniero: you really think every guy is in love with me? Why does it have to happen on the internet?
I would love to get Kinky with a fly swatter, but I think he'd like it too much.
My sister and I have seen Fiddler on the Roof at least 5 times, and every time we leave, we want to convert.
I have my suspicions that Ruby has connections with the FBI and I hate to think that I have to join the Federal Witness Protection Plan again. I mean I'd stick out like a sore thumb in the middle of Cornfield, Iowa.

Midnite Cruiser: Congratulations on the birth of your neice, and my condolences for your loss, your dad will rest in eternal peace. These words always bring comfort to me, I hope they do the same for you.

To everything, turn, turn, turn,
There is a season, turn, turn, turn,
And a time for every purpose under heaven.

A time to be born, a time to die,
A time to plant, a time to reap,
A time to kill, a time to heal,
A time to laugh, a time to weep.

A time to build up, a time to break down,
A time to dance, a time to mourn,
And a time to cast away stones,
A time to gather stones together.

A time of love, a time of hate,
A time of war, a time of peace,
And a time you may embrace,
A time to refrain from embracing.

A time to gain, a time to lose,
A time to rend, a time to sew,
A time to love, a time to hate,
A time for peace, I swear it's not too late.

Name: Chris

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 20:11:22

Dear Lisa,
Happy Hollidays, I hope your doing groovey and I love you ina non yssas way. Anyways all the best!!!!! love Chris (Rigs)

Name: Nappy Hair
On the first day of Kwanzaa, my true love gave to me...

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 19:08:39

Umoja, which stands for Unity.

Name: lisa

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 18:51:18


Name: lisa
9600dpi, b@by!

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 18:47:00

josie: e me and i'll try to help...i just went thru the whole scanner thang myself.

hope everyone had a nice holiday.

Name: JosieDanFan
for seven seconds it was like Christmas day

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 18:19:32

Hello fellow Dan fans!!
I awoke Christmas morning tripping over my feline (who is my shadow)lovingly gazing up at me. After picking myself up off of the floor, still in a sleepy haze, I walked to the living room where I found my famn damily eagerly awaiting my presence(presents). We opened our gifts, and after all the ooohing and aaahhing was done one more gift remained to be opened. As I tore into the paper surrounding the large and heavy box I saw that in contained a scanner, the one and only gift I had asked for ever this year. I rushed to the puter to install the coveted machinery, carefully connecting all of the wired and ports and such. Finnally the moment of truth... installation!!
I inserted the CDRom into the drive the setup began. After a few moments of patient waiting I hit the completion button to finish the installation, visons of creativity danced through my brian as I moved the mouse toward the button.
Cannot find file C:/whatchamacallit
intallation aborted
My head felt light, as the disbelief shot through my body. I refused to believe it, so I ran instalation again, once again this all important file came up missing.
With a tear in my eye, I ran uninstall, and sadly unplugged the scanner. **sigh
Anyone know what I should do? Should I return it? Should I make the long distance call to tech support to see if maybe they can help?

On a lighter note... My Christmas was salvaged by the fact that I realized that the most important thing was that I was surounded by people who love me, and that I was lucky to have the scanner in the first place. So many people aren't near as fortunate as me, and I'm very lucky to be who I am and have what I have.
And as I realize how lucky I am, to have all of this, I look out side and it started to snow. How Norman Rockwell is that???
So I can honestly say... Clismas was good, belly belly good!!

KatyDanFan: I would LOVE for you to be my future long lost sister.

Babylon Sister: We could never forget you girl!!

Herm aka *Expanding Man*: Now matter who you are, what you're called, or how much expantion you go through, your tops with me man!!

P.S. Lester: E.G.B.O.K.

Name: Michael C. Packard
Location: Nice Night In the Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 16:17:18

Howdy DanFanGangLand!!!

Hoping y'all had a GREAT whatever you believe in sorta kinda religious celebration!!

Haven't been here in awhile, due to business, but am happy to be back and see the fighting still continues---LOL!!!

Wanting to know if anyone wants to trade YOUR T.J. Kaye + First Grade and Rosie Vela "Zazu" album sets for some of my SD soundboard and somewhat unique live sets??

Please advise and email me, if you want to do the deal!!!


; )

Name: El Supremo
this road runs all to Paraguay, and I've just come all the way. com
Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 14:31:16

Hello, DanFanLander's!!!

Hoping that all of you had a joyous holiday, and hoping you got some Steely Dan "presents".

C'mon, can you tell me IF you got any Steely Dan presents??

JustKaty, I am so happy to be your husband and a part of our family and life together, honey sweet darling!! You make me so happy, and making love with you while we listen to Steely Dan music is better than "Heaven" could ever be on this Earth.

Love To All, and a Happy New Year, 1999!!!!



Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 14:21:11

Roy....thanks for the grins....again!

been a couple of weeks for me since I posted I think....lots of changes in added to the family and one lost.

welcome to my new niece Haley and a fond farewell to Charles "Buster" Talbott who passed away Monday, December 22....hope you get that well deserved rest dad.

"if you live in this world you're feeling the change of the guard."

how true.....peace y'all.

Name: TheStranger
that game of chance in the sky

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 10:21:17

ruby baby,
your post on geena's doobie encounter was fun, but i'm a little disturbed that your're tracking her movements by satellite cause, i mean, who's next? where will it all end? who gets the negatives?

oleander the matchmaker,
you may have (blush) seen 'fiddler on the roof' one time too many, but keep those ideas coming.

i think every guy around here is now in love with you. except maybe kinky. maybe especially kinky. but he's disappeared for awhile. i hope no one caught up to him with a fly swatter. after all, it's christmas.

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 08:53:47

One last thing: Myra Eyefull and I are now going to attempt the installation of a new CD Writer to our computer. We may suffer an extended technology-related communication loss not unlike the famous 'Modem-fuck' period sustained by our beloved lisa earlier this year. If so, Goodbye for Now my Steely friends.


Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 08:38:19

Hope you all had a good December 25th, whatever your spiritual affiliations. Please bear witness to my post Christmas lament and declaration, approximately to the tune of Bob Dylan's "Mr. Tambourine Man", starting at " weariness amazes me..":

My appetite amazes me: a white whale on two feet.
Now my belt ends will not meet,
and my gut too full to eat,
stretching half way to the street;
still I reach for something sweet,
and, consuming one last treat,
I'm ready to start dieting.


Name: oleander
for he is meek and ole of heart

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 07:20:49

All right, I confess. I adore Handel's "Messiah," sing along with every word, and get goosebumps in certain places (clarification: not by any means at my own warbling, and at certain places IN THE MUSIC.). Listened to it twice yesterday, once on NPR, and the uneven but fun "Soulful Messiah" cd. Mr. Becker & Mr. Fagen take note--the guy wrote it in 24 days!

Razor--Thanx for your persistently even-tempered and sympathetic posts.

Schwinn--Ha! A rollicking #6 to you & yours; though you are sometimes disparaging, you are never dull. As for #7 & 8--we'll be looking for a little something at the next Danfest!

RB--sweetheart of the rodeo!

Edd--Such unaccustomed levity! A little vodka with the vindaloo?

Herm--Whatever. You are one who can call yourself whatever you want and have earned it.

Eviva--I can't wait.

RS--I can't help it if I was born toxic. You try sitting in the middle of eight lanes your whole life.

Old Les--Wistfully waiting too. Have you been reading jive mig's missives in the Digest? Mouth-watering.

Stranger & Geena--A prescription for uncontrolled remorse-free holiday cheer and schedule IV antiheadache good wishes is yours for the price of an airline ticket to your locale and a decent hotel room with jacuzzi. Big enough for two.

Name: David in the Florida Room

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 06:20:45

Babylon Sister- please email me with an e-address as I would like to Introduce you to my Nephew in San Diego. I spoke with him last night and he is currently unattached. Hard to believe since my Wife says he's not a 10 he's a 12+.... "Survey Says! "
No really he's a very sharp dude...and If you are the Woman We all Know you are, this could happen. I said , " Chris, She's a Steely Dan Fan!" " Obviously a Woman of Great Intellegence "
He Said "Great, Hook me up! "
If you're Interested, let me Know.

Sincerely, David

Name: Original Lester

Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 at 02:58:11

Got no SD for xmas, but gave two Katys and two Nightflys. I did, however, get 2 Barnes+Noble GC's which will be primarily swallowed by the remasters. Also got a Roland Jazz Chorus amp from my beloved, improving my all in all grim prospects of playing in a band that is based on quality music such as that of the band we all come here for. I've noticed recently, as I have many times before, that no matter what new band I'm getting into, I always have to give a considerable chunk of time to SD/Fagen. I do this out of obligation, but I still enjoy every second of it. Raise up your glasses.

Name: Geena
Feeling Fat

Date: Friday, December 25, 1998 at 22:14:31

Ok, the guests have just left, the food has been put away and just for today, I let the dishwasher do my dirty work. I feel like I've been cooking non-stop for 2 weeks straight. At this very moment, my feet ache and I'm experiencing sugar shock. Ole, remedy please! So I thought I'd take a break, say hello and hope that everyone had a Buon Natale.

I just love Italian Christmases, my family comes over, my poor French Canadian husband who doesn't speak a word of italian, makes a beeline for his earplugs, the music starts, my cats fly up the stairs and head for cover under any bed or closet. My father who is partially deaf and has had a few too many Sambuca's by now starts kissing all my female cousins and children, my mother becomes enraged and a very LOUD argument ensues, my sister tries to stop the argument by asking my dad to speak a little louder because they can't hear him in Jersey. All is quiet for a while and we sit down to eat. Everyone has made sure that my mom doesn't sit next to my dad or my Uncle Tony and Aunt Regina. It's boarding house etiquette at this point, my dad opens up his bottle of home made wine and passes it around, more loud chatter while someone's baby is also being passed around the table, more arguing, more food, more loudness. Mom complains about the eggplant. After dinner, the menfolk stay in the dining room while the table is being cleared off for a traditional game of 7 1/2 (Italian Poker), while the women retreat to the living room. Coffee, Anisette, fruit and dessert is being served. The card game gets noisy, my uncle gets pissed at one of my cousins for cheating, threatens his life, then gets up, storms into the living room and says to his wife, Gina, get your coat, we're leaving. After a mediator steps in, he decides to stay and continue the game. Oh what fun!!!

Jesus: Thank you for all you do. I am forever your servant. Now can you convince my dad to get a hearing aid?

Ruby: do you work for the Inquirer? Yes, I did leave a lot out but that was for a reason! Just kidding and it's okay, You did a better job than I would ever have, Thanks girlfriend, you're too good to me. I do need to make one correction; Peter is just a very good friend of the band who travels with them a lot. And also thank you for that beautiful card, a pic will be in your email this weekend.

Rose Darling: I missed you too sweetie, hope we get to talk again in chat if and whenever I can get it to work.

Felice Anno Nuovo!

Name: JustKaty

Date: Friday, December 25, 1998 at 20:15:55

Ruby: Thanks for rounding out that story of Geena with the Doobie Brothers. Now I feel almost as if I was there, too! What a sequence of events!

RoseDarling: Thanks, yep, THE KatyDanFan, all right, oh yeah, uh huh..... I do feel right at home here because I'm different, too. I remember when I used to think I couldn't be married to anyone but a skier!! Now I know that having SteelyDan in common is even more basic than that! I'm so happy that El Supremo found me........

Lester: awwww....and no new car, either? Oh my! (What's happening with that and how are you feeling?)

BenFranklin: Very interesting our government doesn't do so well when it dabbles in morality, does it?

Original Lester: Welcome back!

I'm thoroughly enjoying reading the posts, each one is so unique. A 'hello' to all I haven't yet met!

El Supremo: What can I say? This is the best Christmas ever, and I'm so very happy to have you here with me, you make all the difference in the world in my life.

Here's a return on the holiday wishes to everyone, and may you all have a great l999 filled with more of this music we all cherish.

who thinks Don and Walt's Christmas song title would be something like, "Can any good come out of Nazareth?"

Name: RubyBaby
under the Christmas Banyan tree

Date: Friday, December 25, 1998 at 19:09:12

Jesus: Thank you for becoming one of us! It was a very brave thing You did. I'm forever Yours.

RoseDarling: great song! My honey & I came to realize that Midnight Rendezvous is our song. We didn't really pick it. It just is...

Clas: You & Lena must have a song or 2 that you consider "your song". Tell us!
Have fun at your country house! Eat a lot and be happy! I will think of you wrestling Mr. P and Nisse on the piano, while your son plays bluegrass on his guitar and Lena sings. I want pictures.

Geena: Send me a photo anyway! (The one I sent you had part of John's head cut off, didn't you notice?) I think you left out some great details. You're too humble. I must share...

1) Geena almost didn't go. She had to be dragged to Conn. Then she almost didn't get the tickets 'cause of a name mix-up. Then, their seats were behind a wall so she had to persuade the maitre d' to allow them to change seats (big brown eyes &ridasexy voice have their merrits) The ten she slipped him was a nice gesture, but unnecessary.

2) Finally, in the front row & within touching distance, they enjoyed a great show. Geena didn't think the band remembered her, but she caught a lot of big smiles & a few winks from Pat Simmons, John McFee and Tommy Johnston.

3) After the concert, she decided to scheme her way backstage. As the Foxwoods people were in the process of throwing Geena and her friends out the door, she quickly mentioned the name Peter (the DB's old manager). One of the employees said he'd look for him, but the girls must wait outside. Geena said OK and never walked more s-l-o-w-l-y in her life.

4) Peter quickly sent a message out that he wanted to see Geena immediately! He was glad to see her again & gave her 4 backstage passes.

5) John McFee came running towards her, lifted her off her feet with a big hug & a kiss! She was greeted with a wonderful tango manuver by the drummer, Mike Hossack.

6) Pat Simmons snuck up behind her & she literally bumped right into him! He was as happy to see her as any of them! She got to have a nice long chat with him.

We know you're not a flooze, Geena. Just charming, memorable & cute! Glad you had a great time!


Name: Babylon Sister
Any way you want it, that's the way you need it...

Date: Friday, December 25, 1998 at 18:33:04

Just wanted to pop in here real quick to wish y'all a Happy Holiday! Hopefully now that the holidays are almost over, I won't be living my life at that stupid store where I work (live?). Anyway, hope you guys haven't forgotton about me yet.
Happy New Year's everybody! Talk to you guys more very soon!

Love, Baby Sis.

Name: Rose Darling
"War is Over... If You Want It"

Date: Friday, December 25, 1998 at 15:04:23

"And so this is Christmas, and what have you done? Another year older, and a new one just begun..."

Finally getting a chance to post again after the Christmas elves stole me away and tied me to my workstation for most of the month of December. Whilst I had no time to read or post, I must say that I thought of you, Clas, every time I heard Bruce Hornsby or Jackson Browne on the radio.

ruby baby:
My honey and I don't have an official "our song" as we like too many songs together to select just one. But I will always associate "Feels Like the First Time" by Foreigner with our second date and the first time we held hands.

geena: I missed you ! Good Doobie tales.

Witch Queen: Your list of more annoyances was better than eggnog for holiday cheer ! Ditto on the summer camps !

To Not Just Katy Dan Fan but THE Katy Dan Fan:
Welcome to this Guestbook, peacemaker. If you've already noticed that Dan fans are "different" then that should be your guiding principle to withstand the debates around here with thick enough skin , hard enough head, and big enough heart !

David in La Florida Room: LOL@ "Doobie-us past."

Roy Scam: As long as it's not a Herman's Hermit for president, I'm with ya.

Schwinn: A truly inspirational resolutions list. But trust me on this, the Starbucks thing only works some of the time.

Lots of talk about Kinky, but no sightings of his usually sardonic presence. What gives?

"A very merry Christmas, and a happy new year,
Let's hope it's a good one, without any fear."

Name: Lester the Nightfly
merry christmas everyone

Date: Friday, December 25, 1998 at 12:49:21

I didnt have any steely dans in my stocking this morning!

Name: Jesus

Date: Friday, December 25, 1998 at 08:07:48

So where are my presents?

Name: David in the Florida Room

Date: Friday, December 25, 1998 at 06:38:33

Merry Christmas Dansters!
Yep...Santa Left 2 Remastereds under the Christmas Palm Tree...I musta been pretty good..or good enuff anyway.

Enjoy the Day,Love you folks,David

Name: Jack O'Speed
@nerves of steel

Date: Friday, December 25, 1998 at 03:21:16

Merry Christmas and Bill Clinton, HA..what a concept!

Name: Ben Franklin

Date: Friday, December 25, 1998 at 02:26:12

Do you know why you have a tradition of hanging your stockings above the fireplace on Christmas Eve? Because your shoes had holes in them and you only had one pair of stockings...
I helped draft the constitution and I'll tell you this: We never, and I mean NEVER even considered that the country would ever have CAUSE to put the President of the United States on the stand and make him SWEAR to tell the world about his sexual activities. It would have been unheard of! Democracy could not have been forged had it happened! Half the boats entering the new world would have turned around and sailed back!
"Hey, we don't want to go there! You have to be CIRCUMCISED!"
Adultery is a matter best left to the Church. The Constitution seperates Church and State.
Forgive us for not anticipating the pathetic depths your enlightened "Moral Majority" would sink to in order to depose a democratically elected President--if so we would have called a special session just to make sure we spelled "fuck" correctly.
All's Fair in Love and War,

Name: shazsanta

Date: Friday, December 25, 1998 at 00:57:43

double A's, 9V, film, hmm
new steely dans in everyone's stockings?
it's Christmas.

Name: Zero Crossing Guard

Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 23:42:41

Dammit! Thought I'd saved a bundle this Christmas by shopping smart and early only to find I FORGOT THE BATTERIES!

Now I must purchase the Energizers from Yaquat at the local 7-11 where a 4-pack of AA's cost $6.19! Don't even ask what a 2-pack of 9-volt cells run...

Oh Shit! Where's the film?!

Putting Chains on the Tires,


Name: El Supremo
won't you pour me a 'Cuban Breeze", Gretchen. com
Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 17:28:42

Clas, Tomas and our European DanFans,

Hopefully, you opened the flue to let Santa Claus come into your homes and bring you joy and cheer!!!

"JustKaty", my wife-for-life, I Love YOU, and wish you and everyone up there, "Merry Christmas".

Thankyou, St. Al, Rudy, Hoops, and everyone else for giving us diehard Steely Dan Fans a place to go, mingle, jingle, and so forth.

Happy New Year, 1999!!!

Wow, never thought I would live this long!!!

Smile DanFanGangLand, and be Happy!!



; )

Name: John Bog

Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 16:25:52

William: Thank you for a great year, and for making so many of my dreams come true. I believe in us and our future. I love you.

Name: fezo

Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 14:39:28

hey, GBers, want to know where Santa is tonight, check out NORAD was founded to combat the Red Menace, guarding against sudden missile attacks from the Evil Empire, but with the collapse of the Soviet Union, now amuses itself by tracking Santa's movements worldwide on Christmas Eve. Right about now he's paying Clas a visit.

Why I like Christmas:

(1) gives me an excuse to drink Jack and Coke
(2) leads to hearing musical performances you never thought possible; currently on the CD player Stevie Wonder is singing Ava Maria.
(3) gives me an excuse to drink Jack and Coke

Merry Christmas to all, especially to Danfess 2 celebrants Roy, Ole, Sam (sorry about the Paula crack, you're much better looking and classier), and Lisa. We got to do it again.


perpetually in search of the mystical sphere

Name: Bodacious Cowgirl

Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 13:20:21

Seasons greetings DanFans one and all!

I look forward to "sharing the the things I know and love with those of my kind" this coming year!
Hope you all have a happy one...
Also thank you to Don and Walt and the ranks of brilliant musicians who have joined them throughout the years...your music is nectar of the gods...thank you


Name: Big Fan
Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 12:36:43

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!

Too bad Don & Walt never made a Christmas song - Bowie, Bruce Springsteen, and countless others have - but D&W's would have been better - any thoughts on which song they might have covered
"Rock around the Christmas Tree" perhaps - I can see it with the shades on doing the Ray Charles thing.

St. Al you do good things here, since it is the season to say thanks, thanks.

Name: Original Lester

Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 11:31:47

'99 tour? New album?


Name: Edd

Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 09:22:26

We fish ewe a mare egrets moose, panda hippo gnu deer...


Name: TheStranger
drinking coffee

Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 09:02:44

witch queen,
love those twisted camps of yours.

well, it won't get over 65 in l.a. today so we'll all be in our arctic gear around here. it'll be too cold to stay outside long so it's a good season for movies. CAN ANYBODY RECOMMEND ANY GOOD MOVIES OUT THERE?

i wonder if becker and fagen are playing the market. all those day-glo freaks have ... joined the human race. some things never change.

oleander, i sold a stock and then it went up bigtimedrin. i need chemical assistance.

Name: Steely Dan Fan

Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 08:24:35

I remember Christmas morning
Back in 1954

-A little with sugar.

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 08:03:36

Seasons greetings to all you new Danfants and you old Danogenarians. And to Myra Eyeful, the world's greatest cook, who is plotting as we speak to make this the day of the expanding man.

Ole: Nice to have you back. Your posted pellets are as pretty and poisonous as previously.

LTNF: Christmas up big fella. This isn't your traditional Waltonian family but there is a certain sort of vituperative unity to it. All relationships are land-mined with emotional risks; relationships with strangers who don't even have to tell you their names, positions in life, locations, or even their hemispheres are bound to lack some empathy accountability. Hang in.

Doc Mu: What is "Whethurr" ? Answer: Worst spell of weather we've had around here in some time. And now the Virginia climate is imitating Texas's recent meteorological mishaps.

Midnite C: My problem with Adam Sandler is that I can never again walk through a cafeteria line without singing "Sloppy Joe, Slop, Sloppy Joe."
So drink to Good King Johnukkah / And sisters Babylonukkah / Good Yule and Happy Chanukkah / to our men Walt and Donukkah.


Location: COVENTRY, G.B
Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 07:13:56



Name: Zeke
giving hacky sac lessons

Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 07:11:35

Mags: Die?

Josh: Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Keep me posted.

Don, Walt, Clas, Minah, Doc, Earth, Schwinn, Walt Dog, all, Happy Holidays from Zeke.

Name: El Supremo
off to Barbados, just for the
USA/now in the Caribbean
Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 06:49:19

Happy Holidays, DanFans!!!

Mr. Becker, Mr. Fagen, Mr. Katz, Mr. Nichols and everyone else ever having to do anything with whatever to bring us your music----I thank you!!!!

GB Gang, everything is A-OK and hoping you and your families, friends, collaborators, and everyone have a joyous and safe holiday season, use moderation, good sense, and keep partying sensibly, but have a fresh stock of Steely Dan music for the party----watch out, though, as these can be easily stolen---giving Walt and Don the opportunity for more royalty payments when you are forced to go buy more.

Indeed, the "remastered" version of "Can't Buy A Thrill", and "Countdown to Ecstasy" are worth buying----buy them for Christmas presents----then, when you just have to go visit relatives, you just put them on, play 'em, dream of when the next Steely Dan album will come out, go with a smile to another friends, another Steely Dan "gift", etc. Fun, isn't it??

Lester, there "is" one "out there", just keep on searching. JosieDanFan, happy you are okay, but what is your nephew doing hanging by that "snow saturated" tree in the backyard??

Thanks Clas, Oleander, Edd, Geena, Eviva, RubyBaby, Schwinn, and all of you GREAT people on the Guestbook for accepting me and my wife, "JustKaty", into your posting area.

"KatyDanFan---a.k.a. JustKaty", MY wife-for-life!!!----I Love You!!! I am so happy we both love Steely Dan music, darling!!!!



Name: The GRIN
@strap the antlers on!

Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 04:37:04

THIS IS SO COOL!!! Crunch...crunch.crunch crunch...crunch.
I'm making Walt and Donald snowmen! Complete with shades,
a cruise brochure, carrots,(for the bunnies),dressed one
in a virtual raincoat, used real diamonds for buttons,then
I got the tophats, and I jumped right on them! Flattened
em right down to perfect size! Snowbound! SNOWBOUND!!!!!
I feel like a kid again! Love all yoose guys!

P.S. Johnny's gonna make it, right?

Name: San Francisco Knight
Location: London, UK
Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 03:59:39


Haven't been around for a while. Hope all are well.

Merry Xmas to all Dan posters, Clas, Ruby Baby, Rudy, StAl, Dr Mu et al.

Steely Baby is fine too.


Name: San Francisco Knight
Location: London, UK
Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 03:59:29


Haven't been around for a while. Hope all are well.

Merry Xmas to all Dan posters, Clas, Ruby Baby, Rudy, StAl, Dr Mu et al.

Steely Baby is fine too.


Name: Phil Simms

Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 01:41:06

Some of you may remember me as Lester the Nightfly. Unfortunately, my lack of recent postings has allowed for someone else to take my title. So I hereby yield my name to the troubled soul. I'll be checking in more often now, since I just got a pc. First, I just found out about the new remasters. Do they sound better than the previous remasters? What are we hearing about a '99 tour? What about the new album? Also, I'm still trying to find out about the Home at Last live version whic was a B-side to one of the Kamakiriad singles. Help me please.

The original Lester

Name: Schwinn

Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 at 00:17:07

As we nurse our eggnog(s) and reflect upon our previous deeds here is something to cut the prozac...

"Book of Liars" does not condemn the "liar" at all. Take a moment and put the disk on. I'll wait...

Can a drunken Santa discern a liar? Is Santa himself a liar? Can lying be in degrees? If an adult masquerades as Santa, is his name in the book?


That star by your name may not be a black mark at all...

Merry Christmas, You Fibbers!


Name: Hied

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 21:52:22

Merry Christmas! SD fan just reelin' in the years

Name: Geena
not smoking with the boys upstairs

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 20:38:50

Well DanFans, Boston had it's first snowfall of the season last night. After 15 minutes of near blizzard conditions, we got a whopping 1 1/2 inches! WOW oh WOW! The sun came out today and took it away, it was my favorite kind of snow, the light fluffy stuff that you just blow off your car and it's gone....poof!

Ruby: The pictures didn't come out very well. A friend sent them to me yesterday. I'll try scanning them and open them in photo shop, maybe I can do something. But after Christmas, there will be something in your email.

Lester: Glad you're ok, but be careful will ya? Cars can always be replaced, but you can't. If I had a dime for every sympathic post I got here....well, I don't have any dimes, so there! Tough it out, suck it up, we still love you!

Oleander: Hola!!! Bienvenido! Great tangent!

Schwinn: Use Priority Mail from the good 'ol US Post Office and save even more $$$$, don't worry, just don't put a return address on it.

Fezo: I'm so sorry, how could I forget Carlos? Starrkitty is my cat, he's quite an aggressive feline. He still carries that smug look about him when he talks about Carlos.

all I want for Christmas is a new Steely Dan CD!

Feliz Navidad!

Name: Stevie

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 19:36:43


Name: JustKatyDanFan
Josie's long lost sister, yeah!

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 17:59:06

Hey Josie: I'll be your long lost sister, you bet! If you had one in the past, no that was not me, but I will gladly be your future long lost sister! :)

Thanks to those who have sent welcomes to me here, I do love this place, I'm trying to figure out what it satisfies in me to come here every day. soon as I can put that into words or borrow some lyrics for it I'll let you know! I know it's surprising to know that Katy WILL share her thoughts, lol.

Lester, you made some very good points, the best of which is that you'll be true to yourself no matter what we say.....don't let any of us take anything away from you, especially your license . Seriously, Lester, I believe these people are quite fond of you. You are refreshingly honest, and I think that's what we all crave more of, in this world where much of we listen to all day is a bunch of bull. I'm sure we all agree that it would not be the same without you posting, so don't disappear LTNF!!

El Supremo: Can't go without leaving a hug for you {{Husband}}

Just Katy :)

"I'll be ready when my feet touch ground......wherever I could land......and if the folks will have me, then they'll have me."

Name: EvivaLaughs

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 17:27:36

Dr Mu brings me out of lurk status w/ my namesake lyrics! It's SO much quicker to read than post, plus you don't have to pay Lester a dollar! "Don't have a dime, it's Christmastime..."

Dr Mu and RubyBaby: RIGHT ON!!! You da BOMBS! Keep those razor sharp politics coming!

Lester baby! Glad you're OK. Don't take the razzing personally--just keep posting, new posters keep the GB interesting...But quit going 40 at the yellow lights, OK? :) We other 20-somethings want you around a while...speaking of which--

Wow! Lots of new 20-ers--JustKaty etc: welcome!

JOSH! What are you doing here--you hate this GB! Oops--wrong Josh...heh heh mmmmmNevermind!

oleander: I'm re-wrapping my white-girl dreads just for you! :)

Sociable Herm: I speak from experience when I say you can call yourself anything you want around here and no one will mind/care--just keep those stories coming!

Did I exceed my ax declaim, I mean, exclamation point limit yet?

OK here goes,
ROSE!!!! where are you!!!

Holiday greeting for the Jehovah's Witnesses on the GB:
[ ]

For the rest of you: Happy Christmas/Hanukkah/Ramadan/Kwanzaa!

Stepping out into the blue-white night,


Name: rb
good grief

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 16:49:16

Lester: I swear I did not read your last post before I posted mine.

Name: RubyBaby
@the IHOP

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 16:45:44

Lester: These kind of accidents are quite common among the young & restless males of our society. JUST BE MORE CAREFUL, dude! And since she showed no sign of concern for your well-being, then she most definitely is a bitch!

PS- Danfans are survivors. I predict you will obtain wheels and we'll probably see you in New Orleans, too.

PPS- let us all know when you'll be on the road again. We want to be prepared.

Jack: "Santa Claus came in late last night, drunk on Christmas wine." Book of Liars (I remember those lyrics because I lived them for a long time)

Clas: Yes, open your box immediately!

Love to all,

Name: Lester the nightfly
@the GB

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 16:29:14

My Mom told me once if your tying to find sympathy look in the dictonary between shit and syphillis. I guess I wont find it here either, except from Katy and Josie, thanx Ladies!

Boy u guys really r a bunch of heartless Bastards!

I almost died yesterday (without trying to be too dramatic)
and I get nothin but criticism. Maybe its a good thing I probably wont make it to New Orleans now, this guestbook in my opinion has changed for the worse in the last couple of months! I've been posting on here since I bought my first computer earlier this year! Steely Dan was the first thing I typed in my Yahoo search engine which lead me to here. I dont know what happen but almost every post I read lately u guys r bashing one another. What the fuck is you alls problem!

Its funny I'm 27 and I'm an old fart to teenagers and u guys treat me like a kid! I'm stuck in the middle! Y am I the target of your youth bashing, I'm not the youngest in here, I'm far from it! When I said some old bitch stopped in front of me I was describing a 75 yr old women. Thats what I consider old not Baby Boomers. I dont think u guys understand about florida. When I mention about being old (which the subject has been blown way out of proportion now) I'm talking about people in there 60's, 70's which florida is loaded with!
Thats y nursing homes is the number one industry here! I'm not talking about baby boomers and I never did and I refuse to try to pound this into your heads any longer!

I'm just venting a little but in all seriousness nothing u guys say or do to me will change the course of my life, so I really dont know y I'm getting upset or surprised by some of your responses. If anybody notices, I usually dont respond to most of your trash talk in here because most of u talk out of your ass and I know that none of you would ever have the balls to say any of that shit to my face. I just really love Steely Dan and even if I dont post on here again I'll be watching u guys and listening to my boys!


Name: kayukakid
Location: upstate non florida frozen room, ny
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 15:33:32

Welcome all.
Happy Holidays you cynical ,maniacal bunch.
Must leave upstate NY on 12/31- 1/5 for the warmth of the sun,surf and shrimp. And of course an Syracuse orange win in the orange bowl. will be staying in Ft .Lauderdale, frequenting Miami,
and a trip to see Keys. Any Dan bands known or recommended
with those of my kind.

Name: Sociable Hermit
Sociable Permit

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 14:08:09

Hey All,

With all this talk regarding name switching; I thought I'd jump in and add my request to the fray. If, and that's a big if, I ever decide to change my GB name to something a more Steely Dan-ish, I wish to reserve the handle of "Expanding Man". Although in the New Year one of my chief resolutions is to become a less expanding man in terms of physical dimensions, I still would like the option to use this as my own if I ever feel the need to freshen my approach.

Cheery Christmas and Happy Holidays,

Santa Herm

Name: Witch Queen
of New Orleans

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 12:59:48

Top 10 Summer Camps you should not send your kids to:

10. Tommy Lee's Camp Kickachickee
9. Lorena Bobbit's Camp Cutaweewee
8. Tanya Harding's Camp Whackaneenee
7. Kenneth Starr's Camp Catchacrookee
6. Louis Farakahn's Camp Killawhitey
5. O.J. Simpson's Camp Killachickee
4. Michael Jackson's Camp Grabbakiddie
3. President Clinton's Camp Getahoochie
2. Ellen DeGeneres' Camp Lickacoochie
1. Monical Lewinsky's Camp Suckaweewee

Name: Magnolia Boulevard
Everybody's Everything

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 12:49:23

Zeke, what do these people do when it's 5 degrees, like it is here?

Lester, first of all, you're a shithead for driving 40 mph approaching a yellow light. Where did you get your permit at Pizza Hut? Secondly, why do you insist on calling this woman an "old bitch", was she about 35 or so? She was obeying the traffic laws and was probably slowing down and proceeding with caution at a yellow light, like you should have done, but you probably didn't notice her slowing down because you were going so freakin' fast! And thirdly, I don't know about where you live, but where I'm from if you get rear ended, it's automatically the rear enders fault. "You got a lot of 'splaynin to do son"

Here's a cyber $10 toward your fund, more to come....

Name: Josh Hideaway

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 12:29:34

Zeke- Are you sure that's Donald's cool laugh?

Name: Zeke
Ya better watch out...

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 11:41:38

It's 40 deg. today. People here just freak out when it gets a little cold. I kind of like it. Will be going to check out the Bon Fires christmas eve. I sure can do without all the holiday traffic. Been playing the Geraldi (Charlie Brown dude) Christmas CD, decent chops. Has anyone here bought the new Phoebe Snow release?

Anyone here dabble in the stock market? Man, I took a chance on UBID. Whoa!

I was listening to Citizen, Live Bodhisattva, Donald has a cool laugh.

Hope to see everyone at Dan Fess '99 in the spring.

Happy Holidays folks! (where yat Earthbound!!)

Name: mWorld

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 11:27:30

Schwinn: As per #6, That's some funny shit, man, thanks.

Merry Holidaze gang...


Name: DrMu
@nd tigger too

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 08:36:30

Checked out the latest iss. of Hoops Digest with a behind the scenes look inside River Sound working on the "new one" relayed 2nd hand by Jive Miguel...that, and the lyric refs. by Edd et al. got me thinking about "Snowbound" - a Steely Dan song in the real sense nestled in the middle of Kamakiriad. ...that slinky Dan groove...the stream of consciousness wordplay...the quintessential Walter solo that plays against that smooooth horn chart...I'll knock off early today and go home, snatch one of the 5 X-mas CDs my better half has but on the changer and put on the 'phones for 3 or 4 listens...

"We take the tube
To Club Hi Ho
It's about deadspace
It's a marketplace
And a party house too.
Something new
From Charlie Tokyo
It's a kind of pyramid
With a human heart
Beating in an ion grid
A critic grabs us
And says without a smile
The work seduces us with light
Eviva laughs and we step out
Into the blue-white night"
- Walter Becker & Donald Fagen

Name: JosieDanFan
Snowbound..let's sleep in today

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 05:52:19

Hey DanFans,
Well It's been awhile since I checked in. Been busy..*wink, sly grin*
I see a few new faces!!

KatyDanFan: Are you my long lost sister? I hope we can talk some time, I like ya sista friend!!

Supremo: Glad to have ya!!

Lester: *CRASH BANG BOOM!!!* Car wrecks give new meaning to heavy metal. Glad to know you are still alive, but you should have been more careful. Next time, attach nerf football to your bumpers, so when your looking for the roach you just dropped, the impact won't be as hard.

Well guys. I must go, got presents to wrap, cards to sign, cars to warm up and brush snow off of, mad rushes to the store to get things I forgot on the last mad rush to the store, hair to pull out...Love ya guys!!

Name: Edd

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 04:47:08

"We sail our icecats on the frozen river

Some loser fires off a flare, amen

For seven seconds it's like Christmas day

And then it's dark again"

"Snowbound" - From Fagen's 'Kamakiriad'

Name: Jack
@The Club...what's the name of that Club again?

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 03:55:02

Oh, What Nerve!!! You would think that Donald and Walter
would reference CHRISTMAS somewhere, anywhere in at least
1 album. I've looked everywhere and I still can't come up
with 1!!! I've searched hi and I've searched ho...ho...ho!!!
What the tarnation is a zoitcheck? I guess I owe Les a
dollar now.

P.S. You think he would take it in pennies?

Bye now.

Name: johnboy
cold, cold, cold

Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 at 01:56:32

Lester: You think it was her fault? Because she was an "old bitch". What are you going to do when you grow up?

You'll have to let us know how much money you were able to beg...

Some kids just drive too fast...

Name: rubybaby

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 23:14:39

It's late & I only have 1 thing to say -

Oleander, I missed you!!!!!!


Name: Schwinn

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 22:54:59

I realize it's not quite Christmas yet but I'd like to share with you my New Year's resolutions. That way you can begin thinking about yours as well and we can all have a super-swell 1999 together as one big Dan family!

1. I will resist the urge to ask my nephew to "pull my finger".

2. I will quit smoking my nieces cigarettes and start mooching from my nephew.

3. I will give my nephew more money this Christmas so he can afford my brand.

4. I will quit crawling like a viper through the suburban streets and learn to walk upright like a man so I can do better with chicks.

5. I will dutifully read all SD lyrics before quoting them in error and enduring severe GB pummeling.

6. I will congratulate my fellows for a fine post and likewise, encourage my comrades with mentorish vigor even when their additions are truly dull and disparaging.

7. I will quit sending Class IV narcotics through Federal Express.

8. I will send Class IV narcotics via UPS and save hundreds of dollars.

9. I will stop killing those who disagree with me and instead, take three deep breaths through my nose and invite them for a chat at the nearest Starbucks so I can better understand my motivation for wanting them dead.

10. I will change my party affiliation to Republican so I can be closer to the Constitution and better serve the wishes of the founding fathers.

Like a Refrigerator Magnet,


Name: JustKatyDanFan
Katy @El

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 22:14:49

Lester: Sorry to hear about your car, looks like you could use a couple of miracles. A dollar a post, gee.....I could be broke by the time the Danfest comes around!

Dr. Mu: Appreciate the welcome. Are you related to Dr. Wu? Like an alter ego or something?

Geena: Neat info about the Doobies. Regarding the set lists, I went to a four hour nonstop Elton John/Billy Joel concert a few summers ago, still have the paper where I wrote down every song they did. I just had to know forever!
Secret between us girls: I'm not really thick skinned, I just wanted everyone to believe that, and now I don't know WHAT to do when that Kinky shredder shows up. I guess the punctuation police are going to start preparing me awhile.

Clas: Sometimes in Winter? Blood, Sweat and Tears song? One of my favorites on that album! Dotdotdotspace ...

El Supremo: Trying to remember all our discussions on this, sweetie, did we say we actually wanted babies or did we say we just wanted to keep trying to make them? Would love to have babies with you, and if we had boys, they would probably be Don and Walt, and girls I suppose would be the Babylon Sisters? And then everyone in this book would be fighting for a turn to babysit .

Just Katy :)

Name: Razor Boy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 21:45:25

Ruby - read your post of a day or two ago, but it was after I had just sent you some mail - I don't pretend to know of the injustices that go on in the world that involve U.S. military personnel - of what you describe is hardly something to be proud of - But where people have the problem with the whole Bill CLinton affair is how the data was obtained, and the lengths people went to in bringing it all to it's current state. Anyway, enough said. We are all Steely Dan afficianados who come from a myriad of backgrounds, from several countries - It would be refreshing if the music became the focus of the Guest Book - I almost feel unworthy to discuss even that topic, let alone the complexity of nailing a President.

Name: oleander
vine, vi, soy vencido

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 21:07:31

I'm baaaack.... Takes a helluva long time to catch up! Estranjero, man, I thought you could do better than that--talking behind my back, I mean!

Loose ends: Flounder--There is no one who can give or rescind permission to use any handle. However, there is already an El Supremo from Louisville who checks in every once in a while, just as there is a Good King Richard from Down Under.... I don't think there is a repository of monikers, but the obvious ones are pretty much used--as is Stranger.

Joe--Me too.

Friquen--Too cool. Mexico it is. Sorry you can't make Danfest--hope to hell I can. Sometimes I unwisely call stuff I think is grossly bigoted, unwisely because to be consistent it seems I'd have to consider joining the Grammar Police and the punctuation pedestrian and become universally vigilant, humorless, and despised. And I have my own weak spots, like white people with dreadlocks and House Republicans. However, your point about the F word is well taken, and Lester is on my shit list for his homophobic comments and the crap they spawned. Another F word I have trouble with is fat. Some people seem to use it like they use "bitch" or "asshole," and it's another invidious insult which is demeaning and prejudiced. Sorry about the tangent.

Les--Don't take it personally.

Rose--List of Xmas tunes--hilarious. I'm Jewish and I'd buy it in a second.

Geena--you go girl! And you sweetheart--thanx for the message.

Ruby darlin'--I'm fond as heck of you, but you gotta swear off the hallucinogens--Nixon? Reagan? And that UN shit?

Roy--you got my vote too. Loony Tunes; the Ref; all's right with the world.

New folks, lurkers, old farts--happy holidays.

Kinky--where ARE you when we need you, keed?

Name: DrMu
Happy Holidays to all
Location: Frozen Tundra, TX
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 18:44:15

Mayor Rudy:
Got one just for you -
"I haven't committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the law."
*David Dinkins, New York City Mayor, answering accusations that he failed to pay his taxes.

Hey, this was personal behavior on the part the the former mayor!

Thanks. I was lucky. My high school history teacher was also the football coach who had a quick mind and a slow drawl - a good communicator who had a lot of common sense, and perspective. Some of this came from having a cousin with autism...even 20-30 years ago and well before "Rainman", they treated him like a regular person. Although "Marvin" could hardly take care of himself, he knew every bit of baseball and other sports trivia you could throw at him.

Welcome to El Supremo, JustK and other Newbies...

Roy: Damn, I almost thought of a way to use "brown" as an adverb (noun, adjective, and verb are easy) and then it's dark again...

Name: !!!!!!!!!!!!Lester the Nightfly!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 15:45:03

Well I hope everybody is having a Merry Fucking Christmas!!!!!!!!
Oh shit, I just went over the exclamation point limit!!!!!!!
Well I totalled my car today! Some old bitch decided to come to a complete stop on a yellow light and I plowed into her doing about 40! She was more worried about seeing if I had insurance
than a Heartbeat, some people! Looks like New Orleans is out of the question now, without a car or income for another one, its going to be kinda of hard to go, I know your all broken up, but for those who were looking forward to finally meeting me I'm sorry. Unless I win the lotto or start dating a rich woman, I dont see how I will make it out there!

Thats y I'm starting the Lester The Nightfly benefit fund! Your contributions would help this poor scurvy brother get enough money to make it out for Danfest!
If u would like to contribute please mail me $1 for every post u make until danfest! Any extra cash will go toward the Cuervo Gold and the Fine Columbian once I'm in New Orleans. By then I should have a full recovery from my injuries!

In the spirit of Christmas I hope u could find it in your hearts to help me out! Thank U!

Name: fezo

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 14:38:01

Roy: You could have included the cast of "Annie" in your hip-hop sampling list. "It's A Hard Knock Life" is featured prominently in some current video in heavy rotation on MTV. My wife was all impressed (albeit a little perplexed) that her middle school students had knowledge of at least one Broadway musical cause they were always singing the song. Then she saw the video and her vision of cultural assimilation reaching the rural heartland of Virgina was shatterred.

Geena: Check your GB family tree. Carlos is one of my cats who had previously decided to run for President as the last honest being in American. But then Starrkitty started to investigate hm and he pulled out of the race. He was included in yesterday's post as part of a sataric rant about the perils of interpreting history. I would not really drown him.

Name: El Supremo
" . . .sue me if I play too long, com
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 14:35:42

Hello DanFans!!!

Geena---sounds like you have had some fun with the "Doobies"

Clas - - -I am sure the Social Democratic Party in Sweden will again prevail

JustKaty-----Honey Sweet Darling, don't you think after our 8,000th attempt at trying to 'make' a baby, perhaps we should go to a 'fertility' specialist?

Oleaner---where are ya, kiddo??

Have a GREAT one, Gang!!


" . . .that shape is my shade, there where I used to stand"----lyrics copyrighted by Walter Becker and Donald Fagen

Name: Geena
Almost time to go home

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 13:00:53

Stranger: Did it say zoitchecks? I meant smidnicks, you know I have a problem recognizing Mizarian currency, and please get your mind out of the gutter when referring to that Hoffner bass, at least he was a gentleman.

Clas: Skunk hasn’t been with the band for many many years and I never met or knew him.

David: It was Foxwoods. I’ve never been to Mohegan Sun, but I heard it’s smaller and a lot more quieter than Foxwoods. I had a wonderful time seeing my old buddies. They’re don’t really tour anymore, but do get together ocassionally for special gigs, etc. The present line up is Pat Simmons, John McFee, Tommy Johnston, Mike Hossack, Keith Knudsen and Skylark. I don’t get into set lists only because I don’t have time nor the brain capacity to remember any of it, I’m amazed at those who do memorize set lists though and often wonder why it’s so important. Anyway, they don’t have any new music out, so they just play the old favorites. They are working on a new album and am not sure when it will be out, maybe Spring. Sorry to say Dave, the juicy parts will remain embedded in my memory banks forever and nothing on earth will make me talk. I will only say that I had a great time at Foxwoods!

Just Katy: The guys are just your ordinary regular guys, they have wives, kids, mortgages, etc., real down to earth.

With reference to being thick skinned, I am just like you or thought I was until Kinky chewed me up and spit me out (it wasn’t a pretty site), now I’m as nasty as anybody else who posts here. We’re an ornery bunch and the flames very often fly like scud missles. You haven't been initiated here until you've been through the Kinky shredder.

Name: Clas,
sneakin up on...

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 12:55:57

KatyDanFan; 1,2,3. Uno, pino, tres. El'era, mondo, terzo. Ein, swei, dreiz. En, två, tre. ...

Three dots and space after dots thankyou.

This is a Steely Dan-site and we MUSSEN little ordnung habe here, okay?

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 12:32:06

Oleander-- I know you're back. Hablas Steely? Nos olvidas?

Strange -- The Dennis Leary line, while looking at the object in question with cullinary disdain was, "Jesus!".

Doctor Mu-- The commonality among Steely Dan, Bruce H, Franki V, Dolly and the Jacksons is that they've all been sampled in recent pop recordings, primarily of the hip-hop type. And , as for being an adjective addict: well , I guess I am also. Have you ever had an adjective and an adverb at the same time? (Nudge, nudge, say no more.) It's indescribeably indescribeable. But mostly, I'm a verb man; must have something to do with some early oral experience. Nothing's more exciting than to take an infinitive and to gently split it.

lisa -- Welcome back again. Thanks for the political support, but it sounds to me like YGK and Hermit have a better political rap. Hey! A hermit as President. There's an idea whose time has come.


Name: KatyDanFan
Caught in the Act!

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 09:22:46

Punctuation Pedestrian!

"......with rage in your eyes and your megaphones....."

LOL. Got me!! Yep, I plead guilty to the Punctuation Police; enthusiasm is part of me! And you do so well with CAPS !! Is it a case of having to SHOUT TO BE HEARD? I say we both continue in our individual styles, because you know what they say about punctuation.....Use it or Lose it!

Just Katy

Name: TheStranger
tied to the mast

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 08:50:36

was that a hoffner bass in the doobie lap or was he just glad to see you? boy, did theat casino see you coming. zoitcheks aren't worth the uranium they're printed on. have yourself sand-blasted before your teeth start glowing in the dark. glad you had a weird time.

Name: Clas
Sometimes In Winter

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 08:48:03

Geena - thanx for making my day! And the music was great!

(how did Skunk smell?)

RubyBaby - that was a BIG one! I'll email you. Am I allowed to open it before christmas?

Name: punctuation pedestrian

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 06:45:27

WARNING NO. 420788.2209


Name: David in the Florida Room

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 06:33:57

Geena! You wild woman you....sounds like you had a great time catching up with your Doobie-us past.Looking forward to hearing more.....present line-up,set list,juicy details?
Were you at Foxwoods or the Mohegan Sun? I used to go camping in a cedar grove as a 12 year old Boy Scout on the spot where they built Foxwoods Casino. I've been to both Casino's tho'....Big Fun!

Name: Michael
@leap years are the best

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 01:51:22


Name: Atom Sanderson

Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 at 00:09:12

I...I...I was g..g..gonna o..o...o...pen a can of whupass on all of you but momma says it's too close to Christmas to be mean spirited so all I g...g...gotta say is "anybody want some high quality H2O?" Anybody but the President, that is. He...he...he makes me wa..want to that c...can of whupass right now!



Name: Josh Hideaway

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 23:07:57

JustKaty-- Thick skined? Have you met Kinky yet?

Name: Just Katy

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 22:21:27

To Mitch, Geena, David: Thank you guys for the warm welcome! It's a great place to hang out!

GK John: Thanks, El Supremo and I sure appreciate that thought! We feel very at home here already, thanks to you and the others!

Herm: That was a great sentiment, and the same best wishes to you for a Happy Holiday Season! I believe for Ramadan, it might be Eid Mubarek, not that we can pronounce it!

Mitch: Regarding thick skin, yep, I have that, and I'm a peacemaker, too, so I love when people's opinions clash, it's healthy, and then I get to help everyone make up! Plus, peacemakers can be annoying in their own right! I just use Richard Bandler's Reframing and after awhile no one knows exactly what they said in the beginning!

Lester: Awfully nice of you to say my two long identical posts were not boring . Nevertheless, I will try to send a variety of posts, some short, some long, some interesting, some boring. It's only fair!

Geena: So exciting, your experience re: the Doobie Brothers, I have always liked them a lot, presently looking for a tape I lost, a real favorite. What are they like in person, besides the kind of guys who let old friends sit on their laps? Sounds like it was a great reunion!

Fezo: My award for the post that made me laugh out loud! And I believe you're looking for number 7, typically the number of completion?

El Supremo: (saving the best for last) Ditto on that Katy lyric, for sure! And you must know you are "still the one I run to, the one that I belong to....."

Just Katy
".......all right, oh yeah, uh huh....."

Name: Les
In the room

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 20:23:26

I'm in the room if anyone wants to join the party, I got a keg!!!

Name: Mitch
Holiday Welcome to the GB

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 19:45:08

There seems to be a lot of new folks logging on to the G.B. I think thats great, because new blood is refreshing. A word to the new guests, the topics will change rapidly as will the moods. One has to be thick skinned to hang out here, but the rewards are worth the abuse one might get

Name: Sociable Hermit
CavesR Us

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 19:41:28

Hey All,

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanaukkah (belatedly), Happy Ramadan, (is it "happy", or "merry"?), Happy Kwaansa, Merry Boxing Day, and Happy Assorted Holidays!!!!!!!
Also, Happy Birthday to these musicians: Hank Crawford (12/21), Chet Baker (12/23), Cab Calloway (12/25), and bassists extraodinaire Monty Budwig (12/26).
Happy Birthday, and best wishes on a safe and healthy life to the octets born in Houston. (And best wishes to the parents on finding babysitters. Right now, the smallest is 11 ounces!! I've eaten steaks larger than that!)
I will try and keep up with this wonderful GB during the holidays, but just in case I don't, I want to say thank you to all of the new friends that I have met this year in cyber space. Thank you for listening to my rants, thank you for accepting me into your private lair, and thank you for making me feel like an old friend. May all your happy wishes come true this holiday season. Special wishes to Babylon Sister, (everyone's favorite Todd fan, and overall sexy broad), Josie Dan Fan, (I am a Josie Dan Fan fan. Love 'ya). St. Al, (thanks for giving all of us a forum to meet and vent. In 1999, may you all have a personal Lou Costello to make you laugh, a Silver Surfer to protect you and fight for your well-being, a Donald and Walter to add a soundtrack to your daily tedium,and a never-ending screening of a Doris Day-Rock Hudson movie whenever you need it to show you the happiness and joy of love and relationships.

Oh yeah....and some shoes without holes in them.

Love and Cave Kisses,


Name: Geena
So, did anyone miss me?

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 19:29:09

Rube: Now that you've leaked my dirty little secret, I feel compelled to save my reputation and tell all! Do you think that anyone would like to hear how my posse and I spent the weekend in a Connecticut casino with the Doobie Brothers? Well, we didn't actually SPEND the weekend, let's say we went to both shows and spent much time with them backstage, me being my party girl self. Ruby, do you also think they want to hear how I had a little too much to drink one night and spent a few hours sitting on a certain band member's lap? Ok, before you all think that I'm some little groupie floozie, let's just say that in my past career, I had the honor of working with these guys for a little while when I worked in San Francisco, we know each other and we were happy to see one another again. Just good, clean fun. Boy, have we all changed! Did I mention that the show was great! More later, I think....

David: You forgot witty and sometimes rude, yes, that includes me as well.

Ole: You back yet girlfriend?

fez-OH!: What is it with this number 7 and 9? And who's Carlos? Would you care to explain?

Clas: Aren't you El Supremo? Or was that El Viking Supremo?

Stranger: See what happens when you leave me at the Roulette table all alone? I won enough zoitcheks to buy a round trip ticket to Mizar 5 and spend a luxurious week being pampered at the Mizar Hilton by none other than the boys.

Hello new posters!

Larry Flynt in 2K!

Name: Mayor Rudy
Sad State of mind

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 19:21:37

I predicted 3 months ago that the perjury would stick.
I am not surprised that the vote went strickly by party line. I wasn`t at all shocked to see Arab protests, they see a double standard when it comes to Israel and Agreements. I think DR.MU is as sharp as they come,I`d hire him in a New York minute I know politicians follow polls, but they aren`t the Constitution I don`t know how long it will take, for bipartisan politics to come back to D.C. I think todays college students would be anything but a politician. I had an affair with Mariah Carey

Name: El Supremo
Don't Take Me
Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 15:03:55


Thankyou for allowing me to accept this name, which I will wear this "badge" with pride and joy!!!

JustKaty is my wife, so you guys be nice to her in here, as she likes Steely Dan as much as I do!!!!

"Haitian Divorce" is one of my favorite Dan songs from the past---and, I still am waiting for word about whether or not Roger "The Immortal" Nichols is going to get together with Gary Katz, Walter Becker, and Donald to "remaster" the "Katy Lied" and "Royal Scam" albums in the near future.

Has anyone got the "inside scoop" on this???



P.S.: " . . .any major dude with half a heart surely will tell you my friend, any minor world that breaks apart falls together again . . .-----lyrics copyrighted by Walter Becker and Donald Fagen

Name: Snake Mary

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 13:40:22

GK John - Kinky has disclosed to me that he usually ties his prospects down, and then has his way with them. They, including myself keep coming back for more.

Name: David in the Florida Room

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 13:25:49

Hello Dan Fans, Just Wanted to take this opportunity to wish Everyone a Merry Christmas/Hannukah(or whatever you celebrate) and a Happy and Prosperous New Year....hopefully filled with some Fresh Dan Tracks!

And also a special "Welcome " to our newest GB Posters!
I'm sure you'll enjoy, as I have, the Quirky,Opinionated,Well Read and Well Spoken Humans that populate the Guest Book.


Name: fezo

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 11:09:39

this place is starting to resemble a Farrakhan rally what with all the bizarre takes on history present and past. i think everyone is forgetting about the key role the number 7 plays in all this. or is it 9? Oh hell, i forgot. better put Carlos in the tub and see if he sinks or floats.

Name: YGK
Location: In Line, in New York,
Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 09:17:53

Rube: they're having a hippo sale at FAO Schwartz - buy two, get the 3rd half off, although they didn't say which half....


Name: RubyBaby
I w@nt a hippopotamus for Christmas!

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 08:33:04

Dr.Mu: thank you for the very informative post. You should be a history teacher. I might have actually gone to class if you had been at Mt. Hebron High. I'm trying to play "catch up" now...

Clas: You know me so well. I was smiling at you the whole time I posted. You are right - there's certain personality traits to people who try to attain powerful positions in life. There's no getting around that.

But we can reasonably expect some standard of personal behavior and self-control, can't we? I seem to recall a certain Strapping Swede who is very hard on himself when he fails to live up to his own standards... Oh, yeah - you can borrow Tasha. She beats every dog, including Rots and Chows. She boxes the heck out their faces. They don't know how to handle that.

I made you a Sun to help you through the winter. Did you get it yet?

RazorBoy: You have the right to your opinions about everything (even though you're a Canuck). But dig this: We have military stations throughout the world (you know that) but the U.N. has entered many of those military stations, taken down the American Flag and raised it's own. Then when our soldiers, mostly Marines, refused to salute the U.N. flag, they are gang beaten and impisioned. And they sit in prison cells this day. President Clinton knows about this and sanctions it. You will not hear about this on the news or read about it in the papers. You must hear about it from the frightened families of the men who are witnessing this.
The U.N. has military camps on our own soil. Do they help us when we have a domestic crisis, like floods, tornados or hurricaines? No - they are there for their own reason. And if we ever have some kind of revelution against our govt, they will be there to quell it. Great. I think our President is a traitor.

Change of Topic: We have a Danfan who has recently rubbed elbows (and possibley other parts!) with the Doobie Brothers for a whole weekend! Will she please post about this??? We would all love to hear the juicy details!! Stop being modest and spill it, girl!


Name: GK John
Down @ The Lido

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 07:54:38

Just Katy & Supremo- You guys are gonna fit in her just fine! Welcome!

Witch- One more thing. Keep putting important phone calls on hold every 15 seconds or so, then re-join your conversation with a non-committal "Sorry, what were you babbling about again?"

Kinky- Just goes to show you what good personal hygiene, regular exercise and balanced meals will do for your sex life! How do you keep them from turning their heads and spitting?

Keep the X in X-mas! Heh-heh!

Raise up your glass!

Name: th' JoKer

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 06:44:53

ah, the fresh new faces here, is the winter break upon us already?

JUST KATY - just bring whatever you happen to have in your squeeze bottle over here young lady, don't give the stranger anything else to drink.

for some reason i can't get into that xmas spirit thing this year. the wife had to point out that it's {gasP} 4 days till xmas and we've yet to get a TREE. what am I thinking?

sifting thru my collection, D+W have yet to put out a holiday album: what do i do to get into the holiday spirit big-time and quick (swore off religion, heavy user of 'spirits') - i tried maker's mark and coke but quickly learned after 3 drinks, one totally forgets about aiming anywhere, let alone contemplating the holy trinity.....Kinky? what do you do, if anything?

running out of bacardi.jokeR.

Name: Witch Queen
of New Orleans

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 06:24:46

Stranger: what argument? What are you talking about?

The Mariah Carey quote was printed in Parade Magazine about 2-3 months ago. It was also printed in Entertainment and Rolling Stone Magazines.

Name: Clas
@ work, my resting place

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 03:33:33

Name: El Supremo
Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 02:30:29

Hello, DanFanDom'ers!!!!

JustKaty: " . . . you walked in, and my life began again . . ."

Cheers and have a GREAT day!!!!

El Supremo

Name: Buck Hammerstein

Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 at 00:31:45

Mu: About your Mariah Carey quote: Provide a source where I can confirm it and I'll take you seriously when you talk about the Constitution. Fair enough?

Pole to Pole,

B. Hammerstein

Name: DrMu
wearing the boa tie

Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 22:16:21

I mean withOUT the hissssssss

Name: TheStranger
danger on the rocks is surely passed

Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 21:36:47

josie dan fan,
we are gratful you're unharmed after all, but it's too late to call back luca brazzi. you better get the barzinis to help you.

roy scam,
no, i don't remember what dennis leary said when he tasted the nativity feaux candy. tell me. i think the matriarchal witch may have been my favorite 'ref' character.

just katy,
welcome. you got anything to drink?

lisa and wtich,
i looked over your posts and haven't the slightest idea what you're arguing with each other about. peace on earth. which reminds me, i guess we're finished bombing the crap out of iraq for awhile. burp.

Name: DrMu
I could use a Van Allen belt

Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 21:29:25

BigFan: Thanks for the pointer - haven't visited the Broberg site for a while - can't wait for the CD to hear 2A with the hisssssss - nothing more sophisticated, smooth, but serpentine & quirky...DAMN, it's good.

Roy: I hope the commonality is not plastic surgery

Ironies for today:
1) Saddam claims victory!!? (hmmm...maybe he's right)
2) Clinton gets impeached, throws a block party, while the polls claim a 72% approval (has anyone out there actually been polled?...wait, don't answer that!). Meanwhile, Clinton's former press secretary Mike McCurry is quoted as saying that he doubts the President has the mental fortitude and character now to function at his job. Dick Morris (you know, the guy Clinton FIRED for taking the Prez's phone calls from a motel room while a hooker did a lewinski on him) concurs in that he doubts Clinton will be able to do his job also.

IF you really still think it's about sex, there is STILL a moral for you: Have the one-night stand with the fat, naive intern who is your daughter's age and the depraved, raunchy, long-term affair with Miss America, not the other way around!!!!

Clas: I didn't hear the Mariah Carey comment directly, but have gotten it 3rd hand from more than one source...incredible, huh? I did hear and see Quayle's hilarious comment about Latin America, which remains my all-time fave.

Name: El Supremo
Up-On-The-Hill, They Think I'm
Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 20:25:37


Thankyou, Lester, for allowing me to have this "name" when I post to the Guestbook, a most excellent website!!!

Yep, "Aja" is my favorite album, and "Deacon Blues" is my favorite song from it.

I never tire of listening to Walter Becker and Donald Fagen's music----Never, Ever!!!!

They are two of the most talented musicians and lyricists in the history of music, bar none!!!

Looking forward to being with you guys in the "chat" room some night!!!

Thanks, again for giving me the name "El Supremo"

Name: Dan Fan
in the chat room

Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 20:24:26

The Chat room is open! Come on in its only 11:30 PM EST

Name: Lester the nightfly
@shithead dot com

Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 20:08:01

Ricardo(Flounder)- Sure u can be El Supremo. Waiting to Inhale huh!!! Me Too!

Katy- I didnt mean your post was long and boring!

Well since there r a few new DanFans out there I guess I should bring up Danfest since non of the regulars have mentioned it lately. I assume its still on for around Jazzfest time in New Orleans 1999. Late April 1999 I believe.

Name: JustKaty
Hi DanFans!

Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 17:55:24

Clas: Ummm...Gee, I think " I was on the other side of no tomorrow" when I had you mixed up with the Swiss there for a second! I do know there's a good chance most Swedish people live in Sweden!

What's the temp there these days?

Just Katy :)

Name: ..

Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 17:17:33



Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 11:13:15





Name: JustKaty
DanFan of course!

Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 10:44:16

Clas: Ouch! Yep, and depending on your age, one unexpected move like that can put you a little out of commission for a while. (speaking from experience on the age thing) Glad you saved fellow Pompe the GreatDanFan from any hassle, though, maybe you could get him to lick your ribs, the way dogs will do if they know where you're hurt?

Swedish! brother lived in Switzerland for a few years, working for Leica, is now in England for the company, but he LOVED Switzerland. A great place, and he would bring me GREAT chocolate from there! So delicious!

Regarding the story of your grandfather, all I can say is I would get the award, if they had it, for the Most Gullible GIrl!! Oh well, everyone is known for something!

"I think I'll go to the park to watch the children playing, perhaps I'll find in my head, what my heart is saying......"

Just Katy..............whose stream of consciousness is sometimes just one SteelyDan lyric after another!

Name: DrMu
just peachy

Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 09:25:41

Clas: That's right. "Old Grog" was the nickname for Edward Vernon, born in 1757, an admiral who was known for diluting sailors' rum (that sounds impeachable to me). The concoction is served hot with lemon and sugar.
Funny story about your Grandfather - just one count away. BTW, 7 Up was bought by PepsiCo. some years ago.
So Larry Flynt says...being a Democrat, I don't care...we'll probably be numb to further revelations. I don't care and the Senate doesn't care about the sex, we care about the felonies. Clinton is a masterfully adept politician (a kindler and gentler LBJ or a more politically correct Edwin Edwards) who has left a wake of carnage (both friends and enemies) behind him. I've followed Clinton's "exploits" for over 10 years (I have relatives on my wife's side who moved to Arkansas), and I lived in Louisiana before that time for a while, and become quite familiar with their unique "political system" of corruption. Thus I recognized parallel behavior patterns between Clinton and some of the finer members of Louisiana politics that folks who never lived in Louisiana and Arkansas would not be aware of.

Name: Clas
The Truth

Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 07:49:56

KatyDanFan - no, actually, this story was told by the Danish/US - entertainer Victor Borge. I think it's very funny. (I'm Swedish)

I think your favesong is a good choice.


The Sternum Agony:

The other night, when I was walking my big dog Pompe (he's a Great Dane, a Great Dan-fan as well) we met an angry, and without any sense of humor, Rotweiler. To prevent a fight I had to take my dog down to the ground with a half-nelson. Today are my ribs (on the left side of my chest) totally destroyed and I'm in real pain. It's so fucking crazy, I KNOW I fell on the ground with Pompe, and it's theirfor I'm in pain. But my mind says I'm dying of Angina Pectoris. God damm!

If Oleander was here she could give me some Nitroglycerin.

Name: KatyDanFan
Sunday Morning in Pennsylvania

Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 06:27:38

Buck: well said. Listening to Don't Take Me Alive and wondering if they're going to take the Prez alive, or if they should, after this is all over!

Clas: thanks for the new word (grogg) and is that true about your grandfather? a similar thing happened to my own grandfather with inventions in the sewing industry, wow....where are you located, Clas and Yes, we do have 7 up in the USA!

Lester: thanks for your words about the chat (at least I think that was Lester!) And if this post is boring once again, it's shorter this time??

Just Katy :)

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 04:47:45

Hej RubyBaby; I don't think I'm being cynical if I think there's a certain kind of men/woman who craves for powerty in the higher levels. I think that's just a fact.

And my lovely RubyBaby, my dearest of friends... Nixon? Reagan?

Okay okay, our love is above that.

Dr Mu - Captain Grogg. That was the captain of a ship (Brittish I think) about 150 years back who decided do thin down the crews booze. Theirfor the mix of CocaCola, and for example, vodka, is called "a grogg" nowdays.

And Mu, is that true, that Maria Carey stuff? Unbelievable.

DO YOU have 7 Up in USA?

MY grandfather who was a extremely creative person, came very close to invent the success of 7 Up. He started with a rare mixture he called "5 Up", tried to sell it but got turned down everywhere.

HE went back to his lab and changed the recipe a little, changed the name to "6 Up". then he went back to the guys who earlier had turned him and his lemonad down and tried once again to sell his recipe. No way, he got the "thumb downs" again.

BUT the old man was stubborn and he went back to his lab... and there he died, right off, of a heartattack.

He died when he was SO CLOSE!

Name: Buck Hammerstein

Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 02:19:44

Mu: What's wrong, Bubba? Gotta nervous hunch that Larry Flynt is going to expose even more Republican Adlulterers at 2.5% the cost of Kenny Starr? The truth is, Aggie Boy, that powerful men have equally powerful sexual urges--and you're absolutely right--Clinton is not a KING, he's a human being. Who do you think deserves to be KING of the United States? Here is my proposed criteria:

1. The Bush Brothers now govern app. 40% of America. (Texas and Florida). Can you say K E N N E D Y? You know, some families are just destined for Kingship. (Ooops, I mean, "destined to lead".) In any case, I propose that the children of past Presidents be weighted heavily towards rulership. Forget the Democratic Ideal! The Presidency breeds Presidents and the proof is right here, right now. Pretty soon we'll have a Royal Family and currency with Queen Barbara's bust on the paper.

2. The minimum age for a President should be raised from 40 to 60. This safegaurd will do much to keep the President's pecker in his pants while he's on the phone conducting important business. Likewise, every red blooded American male will be permitted to use Viagra EXCEPT the President. This restriction will further ensure that SEX does not enter the arena of important decision making so we can all rest easy while we watch soft porn on HBO. "Thank God the President isn't watching this trash--and thank God he's just a HUMAN BEING and not a KING!

3. The experiment in Democracy is young. As power and wealth have been accrued by the few and education has been showered upon the many, human nature is revealed once more: We are jealous, greedy, vindictive, truculent, and terribly, terribly weak.

4. I suggest we ponder the meaning of the "King of Kings" and light our candles consciously.

Thanks For The Fruit Cake,


Name: DrMu
wrapping up

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 22:47:29

I was reminiscing for the days when only our VICE Presidents were saying and doing stupid things:

"It is wonderful to be here in the great state of

"I was recently on a tour of Latin America, and the
only regret I have was that I didn't study Latin harder in school so I could converse with those people."

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment.
It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it.

*Former U.S. Vice-President Dan Quayle

Razor: 'appreiciate the question. We cowboys get riled up more easily here, which is probably why we got rid of the British yolk 190 years before you all did. Perjury and witness tampering are felonies here...and Clinton is a PUBLIC SERVENT, not the KING...the same rules MUST apply or tyranny will break loose sooner or later...Clinton was just trying to save his ass and the hell on the Country, family, and cabinet. The arrogance of trying to usurp both the legislative and judical branches cannot be tolerated...from what we know today of Nixon, his transgression were far more serions, but then he had his personal attorney, John Dean squeal on him, and there is some contention that Dean perjured himself on some of the testimony. It may be years before we know the real truth on Whitewater, FBI filegate, travelgate, Chinagate, Ron Browngate, coffeegate, etc. since no one has spilled the beans.

Oh, yeah... Clinton claimed that he started the bombing on WED to avoid the holy month of Ramadan (not to avoid impeachment), but the last day of bombing today was AFTER the first day of Ramadan began...guess it will be easier for the Iraqis to fast during the day observing Ramadan while the asshole Saddam is still a fat's estimated that his stockpile of weapons is set back only one year.

Finally, the "nice going" award goes to Hillary Clinton and Larry Flynt. Now David Duke, former Grand Wizard of the Klu Klux Klan, has announced that he would run to replace Bob Livingston, Senator from Louisiana. Duke has almost won a Governorship and was it a Senate seat over the past decade...Zeke, what's the scoop?

PS. I leave you with an all-time classic:

"Whenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids
all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that but not with all those flies and death and stuff."
*Mariah Carey Pop singer

Name: Schwinn W/Deluxe Vibro-Massage

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 22:09:45

Clas: Thank you for the kind words. I'm working on a new book but Elvis Costello keeps stealing the good parts. I never should have made fun of his glasses...

Roy: "Schwinn's News for Modern Man" is out of print and quite frankly, I'm surprised you are aware of it. 5000 copies make a brilliant fire that has contributed to many a pagan Baptist cleansing ritual. Oh well, a sell is a sell.

"Schwinn's Little Acre" has been picked up by Don Henley and is currently being illustrated by Maurice Sendak. The comps are very impressive and I'm just waiting on the publisher to tell me whether or not it's OK for God to ride a Harley.

Noggin' Off,


Name: les

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 21:36:19

Dr.-Yeah just trying to get in the damn room again!

Name: Razor Boy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 20:54:11

Yes the Razor Boy is a Canadian - I have no right to judge politics from another country, but I'll take the liberty nonetheless; you are busting the balls of a president who tried to cover his ass about an extra marital affair- not sell military or other national security secrets to some foreign country- - he apologized. He is still popular amongst the people who elected him - and the support still seems to be apparent. Besides football, baseball and basketball, bringing down presidents once a generation appears to be another treasured passtime. Nixon was pretty serious - Clinton's cover up was chicken shit, and it's appears like this massive campaign was launched to tell everyone that his peccadilos are worth impeaching him.

Please tell me that I'm missing the point- tell me there is something more sinister in all this impeached freight train that I have failed to pick up on.

Razor (more like a rusty doubled edge)

Name: DrMu
channeled by either Lennon or Lenin

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 20:23:27

line 8: was prevented = were guaranteed

Lester: are you asleep yet?

Name: Bodacious Cowgirl

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 20:16:38

Hey- Thanks for the responses, Josie & Lester. TA TAs? Hmmm. Anyhow, I do have a question for any and all...may be a weak one but I've wondered... In Show Biz Kids, is 'I detect the El Supremo' a weed reference? Just the way my gears are spinnin', I guess.

Name: DrMu
not your Kings

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 19:53:02

You are correct m'am. Our founding fathers despised even the very idea of one man controlling the fortunes of the entire citizenry. That kind of power always leads to tyranny of one type or another. They established a system of checks and balances to ensure that would not occur. Indeed, there was considerable debate over whether the "Federal Government" should have any real power at all over the states. Many including Alexander Hamilton espoused a weak central government which would be sort of an association of states with some method of standardizing laws, but the states would hold all the power for taxation and criminal prosecution. Others including Benjamin Franklin wished for a stronger, but still limited, central government for defense and other purposes. The result was a Federal government whose potential tyranny over the States and its citizens were guranteed by the Bill of Rights (the first 10 Ammendments). The forefathers were very wary of (a) central military force(s) which could be misused (a la Nixon) - that's why State's militias and their rights to bear arms were guaranteed. The NRA has persistently shown over the years the inability to read a complete sentence (the right of individuals to brandish semi-automatic weapons is not guaranteed!).

The central government envisioned by our forefathers was that of the early 19th Century who set a vision for the country, but allowed the States a lot of autonomy. The issue of slavery bought the ultimate state's right to the forefront, the ability to secede. This was not guranteed by the Constitution, Abraham Lincoln, and the millions of Americans who spilled their blood.

A stronger central govenment during the Reconstruction was needed, but hampered by a series of weak and incompetent Presidents. The country and its resources then began to focus on national goals like westward expansion and becoming an economic power and the central govenment grew more influential as the its riches grew and the central military remained intact.

With each advancing decade of the 20th Century (except for the roaring 20s) the powers of the central government were ratcheted up as World War 1, The Great Depression, World War II, and the Cold War (the series on CNN Sundays is splendid - it really captures the tension and Chess match between Kruschev and Kennedy) presented complex crises. By the late 60's, and continuing through the 70s, the Federal government had become a monstrosity trampling over the 10th Ammendment which would have only been envisioned in our founding father's WORST nightmares. Although I disagreed with some of Ronald Reagan's policies, his vision of a more limited Federal govenment which would free the American business machine in retrospect was correct. That engine has been moving since 1983 with the help of Alan Greenspan and interrupted only by the need to pay off debt (which caught up with us in the early 90s) accrued by the last stages of the Cold War and the mid-80s econmomic depression in Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Arkansas (yes, another world does exist between the East and Left coasts), which resulted in the collapse of capital, investments, banks, and Savings & Loans.

Also...Screw the polls...If there had been a binding poll, there would have been no Revolutionary War! By the way, our founding fathers did NOT have absolute faith in the masses. That is why we don't live in a true Democracy, but a Federal Republic. That's also why originally, Senators were not even elected...and why even today we have an electoral college for Presidential elections!!! I'm sure Beavis and Butthead types existed even back in the 18th Century...and are "unfairness" or "that's not fair" the new buzzwords for whining crybabies?? Since they seem to be in such self-inflicted agony, why not call in Dr. Kervorkian in to take them out of their misery. I'll make some calls to the nearest Texas State penitentiary in Huntsville for rendezvous times - we're good at that y'know. Are we saying that because Bill C. is white and very powerful that we should let him get away with the shit that minority and gay individuals have been presecuted for by his administration. That folks IS tyranny! Don't come crying to me when the Razor Boy comes and you have no fucking rights left!!

Sorry, no more lectures...

Name: Diego Jimenez-Victory
Location: San José, S.J. Costa Rica
Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 19:29:54

It´s a pleasure to get in touch with you, and I hope you can get in touch with me soon, send all kind of information about records, reunions, touring and all the other great things the "Dan Duo" does.

Name: Lou Chang (burning with rage)

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 19:06:23

Cool site... interesting how politics overlap into the bizarre Steely shared consciousness.

Name: !!!!!!!!!!!!!LESTER THE NIGHTFLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 18:53:34

Richard- I've given this a lot of thought and I decided that your new Delta Steely Dan Ki name "Flounder" Welcome aboard!
You still have to pass initeation: Your next post will be entirely in CAP LOCKS! Once you've done that then I'll let u have the nickname of El Supremo.

Well now the X-ers and the Boomers can share another think in common we both had a pres to be ashamed of! Nice going Willie.

Katy- Its hard to catch people in the chat room, the best times seem to be at the top of the hours like 10, 11, 12 PM EST!
All we do in there is sing stupid songs, spend all our piasters, and get half-way crucified!

Another way to annoy someone is long boring posts!


Name: Good King Richard/El Supremo
Where the Cuban Gentlemen sleep all day, com

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 18:22:20

Fellow DanFans!!!!

I would like to have a "handle" for submitting to your website, the Guestbook.

Is either one of these names "okay" or "taken", already?

If "El Supremo" is okay, I would like to start communicating via this one, ONLY IF IT IS OKAY WITH YOU!!!!

Sign me (for now) "Stranger"


Name: RubyBaby
californi@ roll, anyone?

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 17:49:10

Those 4 or 5 Democrats who threw off the partisian chains and voted "Yea" on the impeachment articles are my HEROES!

Dr.Mu: you're # 6.

Clas: I realize you are cynical at times, but some real fucking good people have been President before. And the Founding Fathers knew that power could go to one's head, which is why they wrote a Constitution that guarded against presidents becoming very powerful.

The Wall Street Journal lied the other day when it said the Founding Fathers were in favor of a really powerful president.

Some real good fucking people who were President of the USA are: Teddy Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, John Adams, Ulysses S Grant, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, and Ronald Reagan. Those are just a few. None of them were perfect. But all of them at least seemed to put their country before themselves. Even Nixon had our country's best interest at heart. When he was found to be overstepping, he had the decency to resign. His apology was sincere, btw.


Name: fezo

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 15:54:51

lisa: welcome back!!! haven't seen your postings in a while. or at least under your regular name. i can't answer your question about the polls. i'm quite befuddled these days about what i see on the news.

a potential bright spot in the mess will be the presiding judge in the Senate trial. Chief Justice Rehnquist, though a much more honorable and principled man than most of the clowns in view today, has a severe back condition, which has left him dependent on pain killers. Documented side effects of the drugs of which he has admitted occasional symptoms are slurred speech and delerium. i'm waiting for the moment when he sees fish flying around the Senate chamber and attempts to catch one.

roy: are all the artists listed in your trivia question on some recent soundtrack?

Name: JustKatyDanFan
Once again

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 15:23:34

Hmmm....I never saw my post show up, so I did it again, if there are now going to be two, sorry about that. I truly might need some help here. I knew that.

And I'll hurry now so you can read what other people have to say!

Just Katy

Name: JustKatyDanFan
Looking for DanFans!

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 15:20:13

Newcomer, here! I hope I am welcome to hang around!

Just found this site, love it already.

Very interesting discussions go on in here, I can see that!

Loved the Christmas remakes of Steely Dan songs. Had me laughing!

WitchQueen, like the ways to annoy people, too!

I am old enough that I was taught to never discuss religion and politics, but with the very perceptive comments in here, I might join right in!

I haven't gotten that link up yet for switching back and forth, so I'm having trouble remembering who said what, that I wanted to respond to! Is there someone who helps ladies with how to get around easily in here? Which reminds me, when is the next chat? I'm in the northeast, so EST!

My favorite song has been Dr. Wu, so I am Katy in here. Every time I try to list other real favorites of mine, I realize the list is tooooo long! But I do gotta mention Through with Buzz and Charlie Freak and Don't Take Me Alive, and the Caves of Altamira and......stop me, stop me!

Love that guy who renamed himself Deacon Blues; I'm the lucky girl who's received all the tapes in existence, practically, thanks to him! (Thanks, Deacon!)

I do notice that Steely Dan fans seem different from other people. I know my tapes go everywhere with me, they're in my purse, falling out of my coat pockets, my glove compartment, every room in the house. I'm always close to a great bunch of SteelyDan songs, I need them like a fix in the morning, asap, and to get through the day. And my life, my life, I never would have made it this far without them, I'm positive!

So my question is, will I fit in ok over here???

And ladies, may I please attend the showers, too, if I promise to bring my own virtual gift? I love weddings, etc.!!

Thanks for listening and I'll see all of you DanFans when I visit again!

Just Katy : )

Name: KatyDanFan

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 13:40:29

Newcomer here! I hope I am welcome to hang around!

Just found this site, love it already.

Very interesting discussions go on in here, I can see that!

Loved the Christmas remakes of Steely Dan songs, had me laughing a lot!

Witch Queen, like the ways to annoy people, too!

I am old enough that I was taught to never discuss politics or religion, yet with the very perceptive comments in here, I just might join in sometimes!

I haven't gotten that link up yet for switching back and forth, so now I'm having trouble remembering who said what, that I wanted to respond to! Hmmm. Is there someone who helps ladies with how to get around here easily? Which reminds me, just when is the next chat? I'm in the northeast! So EST!

My favorite Steely Dan song has been Dr. Wu, so I will be Katy in here! Every time I try to list other real favorites, I realize the list is tooooooooo long.

Love that guy who just renamed himself Deacon Blues, I"ve been the lucky girl who's received all the tapes in existence, practically, thanks to him! (Thank you, honey!)

I do notice that Steely Dan fans seem different from other people. For me, I know my tapes go everywhere with me, they're in my purse, falling out of my pockets, my glove compartment, every room in the house. I'm never far from a great bunch of Steely Dan songs, I need them like a fix in the morning, asap, and to get through the day. And my life, oh my life, I never would have made it this far without them, I'm postitive!

So my question is, will I fit in ok over here???

And ladies, can I come to the showers, too, if I promise to bring my virtual gift? I love weddings!

Thanks for listening and I'll see all of you DanFans when I visit again!

Just Katy : )

Name: Witch Queen

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 12:24:52

lisa, I do not have a problem with you or anyone here, and I hope no one has a problem with me. It was supposed to be a joke, get it?

Name: DrMu
a conservative Texas Democrat

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 11:18:34

Well, what you've seen like it or not is our Constitution at work. Articles I (perjury in front of the grand jury) and III (witness tampering passed with Articles II (perjury in the civil jones case) and IV (fibbing to Congress and being a pain in the ass) did not rise to the level of impeachment. There were defectors on both sides of the aisle. No truth, no justice for all of us. If you don't like our Constitution system, you are free to emigrate to SWEDEN where they have a fine MONARCHY which works well with generally upstanding and homogenous group of people in a cold climate. There is no offense to Clas - it's a decent place to live if you have plenty of hot cider and grog.

Hillary's strategy (this has been documented) to reveal Bob Livingston's sexual indiscetions (which did not include lying in front of a federal grand jury UNDER OATH or witness tampering) backfired in that it only got Livingston to resign (at least he has some honor) and showed who the partisan and vindictive, and smearmongers really are.

Name: lisa
s@nctimonious jargon

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 09:29:15

ygk: loved your mini-rant on the current political snafu, esp. this comment:

"The way the Republicans are doing their jobs, I can envision the backlash where another Democratic President is elected in 2000, with a heavy sweep of the Repubs OUT of the Congress, so we will have a Democratic President and Congress."

i think that is exactly what will transpire if billy is tossed out on his will force the american people to see that IF this is democracy, it ain't working so good...i've seen polls from a variety of sources that state the constituents are against impeachment (69-80%), yet it appears as if that might "go down" anyway. how can this be, fezo??

i heard a republican representative state that it's not required for them to follow the wishes of the people...then why are they elected to serve as our collective voice? will putting democrats in congress assure us faithful proxies? i'm beginning to suspect that behind all the smoke and mirrors, we'd find a democrat receiving some head.

all this crap has made me realize how truly ignorant i am about our governmental processes...then again, most of the people i know don't even bother to vote, so perhaps i'm a little better off than the norm (and that's pretty sad)...btw, i'm fuckin' voting for roy.scam next election.

p.s. to the witch queen: i hope i've sufficiently annoyed you with my style of i dislike capitals because they interrupt the visual flow of my writing, so i only use them to denote strong got a problem with that?

p.s.s. i'm also honking and waving.

Name: Witch Queen
more annoyances

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 08:01:11

Ways to annoy people:

Sit in your yard pointing a hair dryer at passing cars to see if they slow down

Specify that your drive-through order is "to go."

Sing along at the opera.

Reply to everything someone says with "that's what YOU think."

Practice making fax and modem noises.

Highlight irrelevant material in scientific papers and "cc." them to your boss.

Finish all your sentences with the words "in accordance with prophesy."

Signal that a conversation is over by clamping your hands over your ears.

Holler random numbers while someone is counting.

Adjust the tint on your TV so that all the people are green, and insist to others that you "like it that way."

Honk and wave to strangers.

Decline to be seated at a restaurant, and simply eat their complimentary mints
by the cash register.


type only in lowercase. (Guestbookers??)

don t use any punctuation either

Buy a large quantity of orange traffic cones and reroute whole streets.

Repeat the following in any conversation a dozen times: "Do you hear that?", "What?"
"Never mind, it's gone now."

As much as possible, skip rather than walk.

Ask people what gender they are.

While making presentations, occasionally bob your head like a parakeet.

In the memo field of all your checks, write "for sensual massage."

Stomp on little plastic ketchup packets.

Go to a poetry recital and ask why each poem doesn't rhyme.

Ask your co-workers mysterious questions and then scribble the answers in a
notebook. Mutter something about "psychological profiles."

Send this list to everyone in your email address book even if they sent it to you
or ask you not to send things like this.

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 07:54:03

And don't forget to check out Schwinn's earlier books: "I'm O.K., I'm O.K." , "Schwinn News for Modern Man" and "Schwinn's Little Acre".

Strange: Don't get me started on "The Ref". No less than seven unforgettable characters in one movie, one of whom is Santa Claus. I plan to find a Steely Dan link to the film ( I already found an Eagles link) then I can use this venue to blabber about it. Do you remember what the Dennis Leary character said when he picked up a piece from the nativity scene, thinking it was candy, and tried to eat it?

Schwinn: Very eloquent sanctimoniousity. I wish you were in Congress glutting the air time on my 57 channels instead of most of those omphaloskeptic waste - of - lifes. Do you think they have those SR support groups here on the east coast?

What recent phenomenum do Steely Dan, Bruce Hornsby, Frankie Valli, Dolly Parton, and the Jackson 5 have in common?

BTW: Sad to say Bruce Hornsby's father passed away this week. He was one of the more respected folks hereabouts (Tidewater area of Virginia). Actually, Bruce was extremely well off before he became a succesful musician. And, yes, Clas, I'm not a huge fan, but that Boo Radley song would make a killer single.


Name: Clas
640 kb RAM

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 02:39:10

Or is it ROM?

Schwinn - I think you are a damm good writer.

Where can I find your latest book?

Name: Clas
long, but not saturn

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 02:28:31

RubyBaby - I agree with you that a person in that position and with that kind of power should be a real fucking good person. But the problem is, such person would never be interested in being the president of the USA. I think men craving for power are evil egos.

Steve V - Becker sure did.

SO TELL ME AGAIN, why are USA/England bombing Iraq?

Name: Saturn Claus

Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 01:44:39

I once had a cousin who developed "Missile Toe" from stamping out a bunch of explosive devices. Man, did he have sole!

Name: !!!!!!!!!!!!LESTER THE NIGHTFLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
u r @TSDGB
Location: Pepper Lake, FL
Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 00:26:21

What a Bodacious set of TA TA'S! Hey cowgirl y dont u come into the pond hip deep, "The waters fine!" Boy when I starting reading your post I figured oh great another woman is going to beat me up! I was very thrilled to be quoted, I've never been quoted before! When I started posting my setiments were the same toward Steely Dan, now I see more twentysomethings then ever before on here I think its great! I now know I'm not alone out there.

I hope people dont think I like rap, I was just trying to defend it alittle. I was just trying to shine a little light on the subject that it does take a little talent to still come up with these songs and that its not all a rip off job. I didnt start feeling this way towards rap until one night at a club about only a few months ago I folded down by blinders for a while and really listened to this music for the first time.
Being a DJ is like being a musician! U can go into a music store
and buy a stand 2 record or cd players a mixing board, PA, and mics in one package just like u were buying a guitar and amp!
I consider myself a descent guitar player and when I got behind a DJ stand for the first time trying to mix it up (assuming it was just so easy) I felt like the whitest man in the world!
If u realize that a DJ in a rap group had to learn to mix records like a musician learns the guitar or any other instrument u start to gain a little respect for the art and when u listen for a while to many different groups u get to know the difference between the crap and the good stuff!

But enough about that crap, I'm just glad to see america back to normal for a change! You know dirty politics and bombing lots of brown people! If u live in a country full of brown people u better tell them to look the fuck out, because American is through taking anymore shit! My pride is restored! I say nuke em!
So a few will die, in about 30 years everybody will forget about it and everyone in here will be driving Iraqie cars and buying up all their walkmans and wondering y Iraqies are buying up all of our buildings! Sound Familiar! I'm just kidding of course, My jokes are harmless and by the way Don Happy Han-na-ka!

Name: Sanctimonious Schwinn

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 22:57:08

Just got back from my "Self Righteousness" informal support group and I'm happy to say we won't be meeting anymore. I killed them all--including our "facilitator". You see, they were just too damn self righteous for me. In fact, they gave self-righteousness a bad name. If I regreted my actions in any way I wouldn't be posting here right now. But truth be known, I feel like Dr. Laura, totally justified in my peculiar brand of egotism and confident I can second-guess human nature and even read minds in case I need to finish someone's thoughts because I need to take a potty break. Damn, this is power!

Speaking of "power", I suggest we look at politics in a whole new light. The country has been running fine with all the "distractions" facing our elected officials so the argument that the impeachment hearings are "hindering" the role of Government is suspect to say the least. We are finally getting a clear view of government in action: A couple of rival fraternities trying to blame the panty raid on the other to distract from that forty million dollar "hazing" incident.

In a perfect world Clinton would resign so Gore could name him as his running mate...

Love and Rockets,


Name: JosieDanFan
one more thing...

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 19:17:31

Bodacious: well said! Hope too see you again around here. I myself am 20, and have used Steely music to help me through some rough rides in my life. No one compares to the Dan!!
See ya 'round.

Name: JosieDanFan
turn a light on, keep your shirt on....

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 19:13:04

Hey guys and gals,
I agree with Hermit, let's talk about something else.
I'm getting sick of havng my favorite program inturrupted to see Baghdad getting blown to bits. Quite frankly, it makes me cranky.
Stranger: Sorry you feel that way man, but you don't know the dumb ass kid. He thought it would be fuuny as hell, when it was just stupid. ( If your reading this you numb nut, I hope you had fun!! Keep it up and I'll tell your girlfriend about Frank!!) I told him how much I enjoyed this sight, and he wanted to fuck it up for me, although I don't know why he thought a suicide diddy would have done that. If you don't believe me fine, but you'd be wasting your time my friend. And don't you think that if it was someone who offened me I would have done something like that earlier? I've had plenty of chances cause God knows, what a wholesome and kind guest book this is!! I like you man, so I hope you don't take what I just said the wrong way. I just felt the need to address it.

P.S. Where's Cepper?

Name: Bodacious Cowgirl

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 18:49:51

Hi fellow Dans-

As many times as I have visited the SD sites I have never ventured in to a posting session. I hope to feel welcome among all of you.

I think I'll just get both feet wet with a comment for Lester the Nightfly right off the bat. Lester said:

"Rose- There is alot of great new music out there! You just have to be open minded about it, it will help u keep feeling young and alive. When it comes to music its easy to become out dated and old fashion about it. I never want to get to the point where I see young people listening to music and thinking how can they listen to this crap!"

Lester, I am a 24 year old female living in Salt Lake City, Utah. Probably not someone you would see as a typical Dan fan. I have been a devoted fan for about ten years. Sure, I listen to other music but nothing comes close to Dan, I don't think anything ever will. Not only is the music itself killer, the lyrics are cerebral-intellectually stimulating- you really don't get much of that anymore. As far as that sampling bullshit goes, the whole beauty- Zen if you will- of Steely Dan is that they are the only band I know of who are not rip off artists themselves or have been imitated to the hilt. There have been several times in my young life where I thought I was going to "lose it" and a huge factor of getting me through hard times is literally Steely Dan's music. Don and Walt are medicinal to me- maybe I'm just an old soul in a young body but I just wanted to point out that not only 'aging hippies or parental types' are devoted to Dan, although when I'm ninety I will have to stuggle to remember where i put my dentures in order to belt out 'Pretzel Logic' in the car :). Anyhow, thanks for listening.

Name: Big Fan
Location: Anywhere, USA
Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 14:26:07

In an effort to perhaps ease those pre new one blues, I thought I would relay some info from Tunnel Records that they sent me in an email this week. Seems they have found a new source from Japan for oddities. One Steely Dan CD they say they will have in stock shortly are: Tour Rehearsals '76 and Gaucho" & "Katy Lied" Outtakes. There address is

You can read about this album at Tomas Broberg's excellent discography at

Caution: I have been waiting for this Cd and another SD live CD (Saratoga '93) from Tunnel records from this same Japanesse distributor for about 9 months. They say they wil be filling orders shortly - talk about a great Christmas present.

Everyone have a happy and safe holiday season! Wish I could make that bash at Le Bar Bat on New Years eve.

Name: Sociable Hermit

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 13:45:29

Hey, I've got a great idea, let's talk about something else. I got it, how about Steely Dan?!
I realize that my comments helped propel the debate, but to tell the truth, I'm sick of reading, hearing, and talking about it all. There are only three points of view in politics: for, against, and non-commital. For and against will fight tooth and nail to prove the other wrong, all the while trying to convince non-commital to join their ranks. It's always far too personal for pro or con to allow any concessions, so they rarely waver. Non-commital, if that's who he/she still is at this point, gets tired of the aimless bickering and finds something else to do.
So, I suggest that we take the lead of the future frustrated non-commital and go on to something different now, before we all piss each other off.
Come on, it's the holidays. Not only that, today is Fletcher Henderson's birthday. Had he lived, he'd be 101 years old today. And a Clinton supporter. (Ooops...)
Merry Everything!


Name: Uncle Tony
@ahhh,can't stop laughin, more, more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 11:19:57

"Tweet, Tweet", said the little elephant as he hopped
from limb to limb.

Name: Snake Mary
hungry again

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 10:47:41

Reform School Angel, Thank you so much for giving up such a wonderful human being as Kinky. The Kinky fondue is very addicting once sampled and I don’t know if I will be as strong as you when it’s time to say farewell. Kinky has already revealed to me that he doesn’t stay very long with just one woman, he needs to sample the flavors of life. I thank my lucky stars everyday for having had the opportunity to dip my toe in the pristene waters of Lake Kinky. Oooohhhhhh, I’m getting shivers up my spine just thinking of him.

All I ask is that you will be there for me when he gets his travelling itch again.

I have to go now, he's calling for me again.

Name: Digital Flyboy
Under the Radar

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 10:03:06


This is a sworn affidavit and disclosure of my past personal behavior realizing that personal behavior includes sexual harrassment, lying, rape, and murder, This document is leagally binding and truthful information in this survey avoids impeachment or indictment at any level. Check by the appropriate response.

1. Natural THC administration
a. I never inhaled
b. Boy, did I inhale
c. I took ten “seminar” classes in a row with Judge Bork
d. Where’s my Bong?

2. Oral Sex ( inappropriate relationship)
1. Hey, they don’t call her/me Missionary Mary for nothing
2. I never inhaled
3. It ended up on the dress
4. I’m having oral sex right now

3. Extramarital affairs
a. No, I haven’t bought any Viagra yet.
b. No, it’s Steely Dan for me
c. Yes, and in each of the 26 states where it is technically illegal
d. Have you see my wife/husband?
e. I’m having one right now

4. Accepting bribes/illegal campaign contributions
a. No, I only accept sexual favors, not illegal cash
b. Is that a Chinese missle or are you happy to see me?
c. Why don’t they change the laws?
d. Oh, everybody does it. Even George Washington accepted a bribe from Cherry Tree Lumber Co. when they opened a denture factory

5. When would you bomb Saddam?
a. During sweeps week only
b. Until the NBA strike is over
c. During preparation for Islamic religious holidays only
d. When I’m not participating in the activities listed above
e. Any fucking time I please

6. Perjury
a. How do you define “perjury?”
b. Usurping both the legislative and judicial branches is expected. This is an Imperial presidency, no?

7. Unsolved mysterious deaths
a. I only had sex with that individual
b. I'm searching for the culprit now. Could you pass me that 9 iron?

prepared by Alan Dershowitz and O.J. Simpson
*this applies to the executive and legislative branches only as we know the judicial branch never gets laid.

Name: Steve V
Getting High w/ Miss Demeanor

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 09:54:09

reasons to impeach Clinton:

bombing Sudan medical plant....
...and the current bombing of Iraq.....
the rest of this farce is a bunch of rednecks squabbling over "ethics"....
where were all these altruistic politicians when Reagan "couldn't recall" whether he signed a "finding" that "authorized" Oliver North to sell weapons to Iran...and where were they when Bush pardoned the rest of the Iran/contra crooks....who were indicted for treason by Republican independent counsel Laurence Walsh.....ah.......

didn't Becker write a song about this??/

Name: TheStranger
if the cigar don't fit, you must acquit

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 09:41:43

not just black cow. listen to terrific female vocals backing up fagen on deacon blues.

josie dan fan,
bullshit. somebody offed you and is now posting in your name to throw us off the trial. well, killer, we don't have time to go after you right now because the whole government is busy investigating blowjobs and oaths about blowjobs.

somebody please read the witch queen post and summarize in 25 words or less. ain't got the time.

clinton follies-- when this thing goes to the senate the democrats will put linda tripp and her agent goldberg on the stand for days and they will be forever identified in the public mind with the republican party. these zombie humorless zealots are going down. by the way, clinton is a scmuck.

somebody pass me another cruise missile. the satellite photos show something alive down there.

Name: Barney's Frank
Below the Beltway

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 09:13:38

The true will of the people can be tested by a sampling of bumper stickers as these from the DC area:

HONK! If you had sex with the President

Clinton: We forgive you...Now Resign!

Al Gore: One heartthrob from the Presidency

One More Whore And We Get Gore

My President Fooled Around with Your Honor Student

Jail to the Chief

Today kids no longer play doctor,
they play President

The Clinton Creed: Take Credit Not

If his private life doesn't matter, let
him date your daughter.

Save the President: Legalize Perjury

Two terms for Clinton: the second in jail

Clinton: Our Nation's Fondling Father

Name: fezo

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 07:53:19

head on platter: you answered your own question so i'm not sure if you really want to hear my explanation (hey, you could be a Republican) but here it goes . . . legal perjury is the same as perjury, i was just trying to distinguish between a lie and perjury.

our natural state in this world is innocence. if we are charged with a crime, there still has to be a trial and the state bears the burden of proving all the elements of that given crime. While lying under oath is one element of perjury, generally it is not enought to sustain a criminal conviction for perjury. There are other elements like materiality and relation to the predicate offense or matter. Those latter two elements are what is lacking in any legal case against Clinton. Without them proven by the prosecution, he could never be criminally convicted for perjury. Yet the House is about to impeach him for an offense of which he is criminally innocent. That bugs me as a process and fairness issue. I have absolutely no use for Clinton.

Now back to our regular programming:

I was listening to "Black Cow" the other day and noticed for the first time the prominence of a female vocalist in the song. Who is she?

Name: YGK
Location: New York, NY
Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 07:31:08

Folks: I'm no Democrat, but I have to wonder what's going on with the political machine in this country when the Judicial System allows a public lynching of a sitting President, when someone, three chairs away from the Presidency, admits to being unfaithful, on several occasions, to his wife, and yet he is still calling for the head of the President. (And somewhere, maybe, Jesus is saying, "You Hippocrites!")

There was a Daily News poll yesterday here in New York, and 81% of New Yorkers DON'T want to see the President impeached. I know that the rest of the country's attitudes don't exactly mirror those in New York, but I do know that while the anti-impeachment movement of the country may not be at 81%, it is a majority, floating round 60% - maybe 65%.

Now I may be a little ignorant, or I fell asleep in Civics class once or twice, but as I understand it, those people in Congress are OUR REPRESENTATIVES - THEY represent US! We ELECTED THEM! And therefore, the logic follows that IF we don't want him impeached, then DON'T RUSH BLINDLY DOWN THAT ALLEY, ASSHOLE! (sorry)

The way the Republicans are doing their jobs, I can envision the backlash where another Democratic President is elected in 2000, with a heavy sweep of the Repubs OUT of the Congress, so we will have a Democratic President and Congress. I can see the Republican party splintering into fringe groups, which it is already doing - even the moderates are getting bullied by the radical right.

I find Mr. Hyde, Mr. Livingston, and many of their fellow 'peers' - or shall I say fellow 'lechers' - as being the ultimate hypocrites, and are behaving like 6 year old boys. Calling on principle in an area of their life where they admitted they also fell into the sewer. Mr Gingrich served divorce papers to his first wife - WHEN SHE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL RECOVERING FROM CANCER! If that isn't an indication of the type of people who are elected to serve Republican interests, then I don't know what is. These people are the worst kind of human beings, with no spine, no guts, no compassion.

I say, Censure the President - the public will spank him now, and spank him when he leaves office - because he does have his responsibilities to the country, which he royally screwed up - but, PLEASE, Republicans, get over yourselves. Do your jobs and shut the fuck up - our - the people who elected you - disdain of you will make itself known in due course. Right now, you can only make it worse, and WE WON'T FORGET THIS BULLSHIT!

Ahhhh, I rest.


Name: Sociable Hermit

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 05:23:41

Mock Turtle:

Yes, I DID mean Peter Gabriel. Thanks. But you can see where I got confused: It's those damn relacement drummers. One explodes, they get another, and so on.
Hard to keep track.

Name: Edd

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 04:48:48

Probably not.
Copyrights are protections for "works of authorship". Bomb design might be better protect by a patent.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 01:34:23

May I ask a simple question? A childish one?

Is there any copyright on making nuclear weapons?

Name: Non-Sequitor
Location: Deserted Village, NY USA
Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 at 00:46:32

Addendum: "Now they'll be screamin' for answers, to questions
'bout people back home. Running for cover and looking for others. Whose problems the same as their own. ..." San Diego, 2000, sounds like a great time for a concert. 'Steely Dan?' Te Ochen, Ya lablu. )9*+

Name: Not a Shaman, nor a Riddler
Location: Grouse City,
Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 22:12:00

Always, thanx for the music, 'Steely Dan.' Shamanism predates Buddhism, and of course, anyone that studies 'Napoleonism', "so to speak:" may become a leader.
"Watchin' the heroes fall, thought that they knew it all, looks like they've taken a dive." ... .

Name: JosieDanFan
riding on the tail of a SCUD

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 20:36:37

Hey guys...
I wanted to check in and say I'm still alive..I didn't make that spooky post, it was a dunb ass practical joke played on me to you by my dumb ass 16-year-old uncle... long story, but he paid for it. I appreciated all the well wishes, and concerns though. THANKS!!
Herm: You said exactly what I've been saying all along ( more eloquently of course). Republicans are out to get Clinton on what seems to be a personal level. It's truly no longer for the people, it's: who cares about the people? It would be almost funny to watch if it wasn't costing the country and the world so much. I agree with the CIA idea, but in the past every one who has tried to kill only him has ended up dead. Maybe they already have tried? All I know is that for the second time in my life I have been jolted out of my daze of middle class comfort and feared for the future of my family, and my family I have yet to have. It has gotten so out of control, and I can say that I blame the good ol' elephants for that one..thanks guys!!
JDF(Just Damn Fucked-over)

Name: Mock Turtle

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 19:53:42

Phil Collins? I think you maent Peter Gabriel.

Name: Reform School Angel

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 19:52:34

Snake Mary- I bear no grudge because you've sampled the Kinky fondue. As I stated in my morning post, it was an enjoyable experience for me but I'm in another place now. Without personal growth one becomes stagnant. You dig?

Take him, Mary. Savor his fineness. I'm certain one doesn't encounter an exquisite creature such as Kinky everyday.

And please elaborate on your theory that I "revealed his secret"?

Bon appétit...

Name: his head on a platter....
oh by the way

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 18:46:30

It just occurs to me what a great country we live in--where I can hurl all kinds of insults at the President of the United States and not even worry about the FBI coming to pick me up in mid-

Name: his head on a platter, part deux
ESP'ing down the Avenue...

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 18:36:24

Roy - never seen "the Ref." Did I ESP a line from it? Glad I made SOMEBODY smile around here.

fezo: maybe I need to be a lawyer to get your point, but last I heard, lying under oath was called perjury. No "legal perjury" (as opposed to non-legal perjury?) about it. Perjury by definition is illegal. "The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth." Did Clinton meet that standard? By any non-partisan jurist standard everyone here has to admit: no.

I don't give a shit what he was testifying about. And behavior with employees was relevant to what he was testifying in: a harrassment suit brought by another employee. This wasn't Ken Starr--it was the Paula Jones case. And he lied even when he didn't know that the case was going to be dismissed.

Presidents shouldn't be able to lie under oath and obstruct justice and get away with it. And ESPECIALLY not if it's something personally embarrassing at stake. If national security were being protected by a lie under oath--at least that's some semblance of a marginally defensible reason. Trying to cover up blow jobs on taxpayers' time in our Oval Office? Uh-uh.

But, hey, the economy's good, so people don't care if Clinton's a completely untrustable liar bombing the shit out of MORE brown people for his own benefit as long as Clinton don't touch their 401-K's...

Name: Witch Queen
of New Orleans

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 16:56:47


Day 1:
Dear Boudreaux, Thanks for de bird in de Pear tree. I fix it las' night with dirty
rice. I doan tink de pear tree will grow in de swamp, so I swap it for a Satsuma.

Day 2:
Dear Boudreaux, You letter say you sent two turtle doves, but all I got was two
scrawny pigeons. Anyway, I mixed dem with andouille an made some gumbo out of

Day 3:
Dear Boudreaux, Why doan you sent some crawfish? I'm tired of eating dem
darn birds. I gave two of dose prissy French chickens to Marie Trahan over at
Grans Bayou an fed the tird one to my dog Phideaux. Marie needed some sparring
partners for her fighting rooster.

Day 4:
Dear Boudreaux, Mon Dieux! I tol you no more xxxxx birds. Deez four, what you
call dem "calling birds" were so noisy you could hear dem all de way to
Napoleonville. I used dere necks for my crab traps, an fed de rest of dem to de

Day 5:
Dear Boudreaux, You finally sen' somethin useful. I like dem golden rings, me. I
hocked dem at da pawn shop in Thibodeaux and got enuf money to fix da shaft on
my shrimp boat an buy a round for da boys at de Raisin' Cane Lounge. Merci

Day 6:
Dear Boudreaux, Couchon! Back to da birds, you Cajun turkey! Poor egg suckin'
Phideaux is scared to death at dem six geeses. He tried to eat dems eggs and
dey peck de heck out ah his snout. Dey good at eating cockroaches, though. I may
stuff one of dem wit erster dressing on Christmas day.

Day 7:
Dear Boudreaux, I'm gonna wring your fool neck next time I see you. Thibeau, da
mailman, is ready to kill ya. The merde from all dem birds is stinkin' up his
mailboat. He afraid someone will slip on dat stuff and sue him good. I let those
seven swans loose to swim on de bayou and some duck hunters from Mississippi
blasted dem out of de water. Talk to you tomorrow.

Day 8:
Dear Boudreaux, poor ole Thibeau, he had to make tree trips on his mailboat to
deliver dem 8 maids a milkin and their cows. One of dem cows got spooked by da
alligators and almost tipped over da boat. I doan like dem shiftless maids, me no.
I tolt dem to get to work guttin fish and sweepinq the shack but dey say it
wasn't in dair contract. Dey probably think dey too good ta skin nutrias I caught
las night.

Day 9:
Dear Boudreaux, What you trying to do huh? Thibeau had to borrow the Lutcher
ferry to carry dem jumpin twits you call Lords-a-Leaping across the bayou. As
soon as dey gots here dey wanted a tea break with crumpets. I doan know what
dat means but I says, "Well La Di Da. You get Chicory coffee or nuttin." Mon
Dieu, Emile. What I'm gonna feed all dese bozos? Dey too snooty for fried
nutria, and de cows done eat my turnip greens.

Day 10:
Dear Boudreaux, You got to be outs you mind! If de mailman don't kill you, I will
fo sure. Today he deliver 10 half nikid floozies from Bourbon Street. Dey said
dey be "Ladies Dancin" but dey doan act like ladies in front of dose Limey twits.
Dey almos left after one of dem got bit by a water moccasin over by da
out-house. I had to butcher 2 cows to feed toute le monde an had to get toilet
paper; the Sears catalog wasn't good enuf fer dose hoity toity Lords' royal

Day 11:
Dear Boudreaux, where y'at? Cheerio an pip pip. Your 11 pipers piping arrives
today from the House of Blues, second lining as dey got off de boat. We fixed
stuffed goose and beef jambalaya and we having a fais-do-do. Da new mailman he
having a good time, yeah, dancing with de floozies. Thibeau he jump off de
Sunshine Bridge yesterday, screaming your name. If you get a mysterious,
ticking package in de mail, doan open it.

Day 12:
Dear Boudreaux, I sorry to tell ya but I not your true love anymore, no. After
da fais-do-do, I spent de night with Jacque, de head piper. We decide to open a
restaurant and gentleman's club on de bayou. The floozies, pardon me, Ladies
dancing can make $20 for a table dance, and de Lords can be waiters an valet
park de boats. Since de maids doan have no more cows ta milk, I trained dem ta
set my crab traps, watch my trotlines, an run my shrimping business. We will
probably gross a million nex year.

Name: Magnolia Boulevard
Sociable Hermit For President

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 16:44:48

Thank you Sociable Hermit for saying what I've been trying to say all along, but no one was listening. The Republicans are digging their own grave and right now looking like a bunch of whiny assholes.


Name: Sociable Hermit

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 16:39:38

Thanks, fezo. Very succinct.

The other problem I have with it, and I apologize for sounding like Oliver Stone, but the whole thing seems to be a set-up. "Let's get the President under oath, and ask him a question we know the answer to. If he tells the truth, he's screwed. If he lies, we'll screw him."
I agree that lying is wrong. I think he should have either admitted it early on, or said, "Fuck you, it's none of your business." But, again, he wasn't lying about any threat to the US, unless Monica plans on blowing us all. And, as far a lying goes, how about Ronny's famous lines, "I don't remember." "I don't recall." Reagan quoting Phil Collins isn't lying? Or at least bad taste? what about Oliver North and the shredded papers? Don't start canonizing your Republicans too early. They may end up losing their jobs and moving next door to you. Then let's see how much you like them.
"Did you take my paper from my driveway this morning?"
"Ahh, I have no memory of this morning."


Name: fezo

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 16:29:49

Ruby: the trouble with your argument is that perjury is a legal concept and by any reasonable, non-partisan jurist's definition, the President has not committed legal perjury. All he is legally guilty of is lying and I don't think you want to start impeaching all politicians who lie.

(with apoligies to Sociable Hermit for answering the question directed to him)

Name: RubyBaby
kings c@n kiss my @

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 15:53:48

Socialbe Hermit:

So, if a president can commit perjury when it suits him, even though our Constitution says NO, then what else will they be able to do? The precident will be set for government officials to be able to do anything. I mean ANYTHING.

Where is the strength in that?

There is strength in up-holding the Constitution. There is strength in having accountability.

Clinton isn't a baby. He's a man, who has broken the law. But not just any man, the President, the Commander-in-Chief, the guy who holds the highest office in our nation. I think with that position should come the highest level of responsibility.

You've been your cave too long, dude.


Name: Sociable Hermit
Ahh, One More Thing...

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 15:41:21

I just wanted to add that I do not in any way advocate war. I do not fully agree with the theory of getting rid of Hussein by bombing hundreds of innocent people. My idea?: Get a James Bond. Get a single, or small group, of CIA assassins and have them get Hussein and only Hussein. Bombing the country doesn't seem to work. He hides, and uses women and children as human sheilds to prevent the bombing of certain buildings.
I am against murder and war, but if it has to be done, then it should be done correctly and efficiently.
As to the suspicious timing of this? Who knows. But what about the timing of the troop release in 1980? Minutes after Reagan was sworn in. Hmmm.....But when this was questioned, the santimonious Republicans were shocked that such a question was even raised. Talk about flip flops.


Name: Sociable Hermit

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 15:19:06

I never thought it would come to this inside this wonderful cyber sanctuary that we call the Guest Book, but here I am, all prepared to launch into politics.
To all of the rabid Republicans out there: Please, please, read your history books and find out what your past leaders have done in sticky situatuions before you begin all the cliche-heaving, (i.e.: "wag the dog"). Republicans sold weapons to the Contras, cut a deal in Lebanon to free the hostages, may have been involved in the Kennedy assassination, and are definately to blame for this recent Furby craze. (Don't ask how I know, "they " could read this.)
The Republicans have been on a witch hunt ever since Clinton declared his candidency. Whitewater, white women, whatever. And no matter what they accused him of, they could not prove that he was ever at fault. During all of this attacking, all Clinton did was lower unemployment and inflation, and provide the people of the US a more comfortable life.
Yeah, he may have lied under oath, but it was to the answer of a question that he probably bever should have been asked. And, under the circumstances, anyone who had previously commited adultery, which is not a crime, by the way, would have answered the same way. Why implicate yourself for something that doesn't have any bearing on the matter at hand? Then the Republicans get Linda Tripp to do more dirty work and trick Ms. Lewinsky to admit an affair while secretly taping the whole thing. No, no, none of that is snaky or tricky. No.
Now, what Clinton did, cheating on Hillary, in my opinon, was wrong. But the only people that he hurt were his own family. Not the country. He did not commit espionage, murder, treason, or illegally tape conversations, which is what the Republicans did in the 70's and the 90's. He got a few blowjobs. I could understand the furor had he committed sodomy, as that is still an archaic felony in certain states. But all he did was mess around with a young woman who threw herself on him. As we have heard, it was she who made all of the initial sexual overtures. Okay, he fell victim to his own lascivious desires, but as I have said, that is not a crime. So, before anyone starts bitching about how this matter in Iraq seems "coincidental", remember who pushed the man in the corner with allegations and mudslinging. They just never like this man. Maybe it's because in six years, he was able to correct what it took the Republicans 12 years to screw up.
I don't completely agree with the way he has handled every aspect of all this, but my point is, he should have never had to handle any of this in public in the first place. This is a domestic matter, as in The Clinton Family, NOT the extended US family. People will begin to see what vengence the Republicans have been maliciosly seeking, and hopefully vote them out of office in the next election. The polls seem to say that most of America does not care about this issue, except on a voyaristic-Jerry Springer level, yet the Republicans are determined to vote for impeachment. How can this be, if the people say no? Because, this government is no longer "of the people, by the people, for the people". It's for a small group of men who have friends with their checkbooks open, and that's sad. It for the rich, and the lobbists for the rich, and the friends and family of the rich. All of whom probably leave their comfy offices and get extra-marital blowjobs before they go home to their wives.


Name: Snake Mary
It's Kinky's fault

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 12:38:05

With reference to my last post, it was supposed to be addressed to Reform School Girl. You see Kinky was tickling me somewhere and made me make that mistake.

Name: Snake Mary
Rewriting the Joy Of S*x

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 12:36:36

Snake Mary, The key word is you *had* Kinky and now that you've revealed his secret, how do you expect him to feel about you?

I have him now and he loves the way I make him feel especially when I wear my platform heels. He's also given it alllllll to me as well, but we decided to make it public as we seem to have swept each other off our feet.

Name: DrMu
primevil rite that you're beholding

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 11:47:05

Well, thank goodness that Bill and the Pentagon have made the proper adjustments in the coordinates to get the bombing in camera range this late-nite in Baghdad. What a night!...I will volunteer though to ride the cruise missle a la Slim Pickens which will find Saddam's rear...the Republicans would be wise to cool their jets until the show is over...or at least mosaic Henry Hyde and Maxine Waters' faces for cryin' out loud (gratuitous bipartisan comment).

Roy: Let me try your test and compile my least favorite track (on this day) from each of the magnificent 7:
CBAT - Change of the Guard
CTE - Show Biz Kids
PL - Charlie Freak
KL - Everyone's Gone to the Movies
RS - Royal Scam
Aja - Peg (damn, I can't think of too many albums where my FAVORITE song is in the same league)
Gaucho - My Rival (this was hard- just love the horns in the break)

Yeah, still looks like a classic to me.

Name: Steve V
@opposition party

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 11:34:40

can someone please explain how blowing up Iraqi children make it easier for UN inspectors to verify if Hussein is building new weapons????

impeach all of them!

I'm growing my hair long again......

...where can I score a nickel bag????

Name: TheStranger
i got the (cruise missile) news

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 10:19:28

roy scam,
i'm with you on 'the ref.' what a beautifully written movie. every time it's on i get sucked in all over again. how'd it ever get released? nothing intelligent and moving like giant insects, volcanos, dinosaurs or two great kids who don't realize they're in love chasing twisters in a pickup.

now that america is back to bombing the shit out of brown people, i think everyone feels right again.

happy hannukah, merry christmas, heavenly ramadan, great kwanza and hilarious new year to all, including the guestbook prick minority. raise your glasses to '99 Dan tour and album.

Name: GK John

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 09:39:25

Roy- Mea Culpa! Reelin', 19, & Sneakers are also on the list as well as Movies, Brooklyn, Fez, Rose Darlin' and Teeth. I really love anything with the DF and WB "stamp" on it. Perhaps I should illuminate further on the list... Most every song on the list evokes a memory or a pleasant nostalgic event back in my days of salads and sun.
For example, the "non-Fagen vocal" was the fave of a former girlfriend in college, who could only get intimate when "Thrill" was on.
Century's End makes the list even though it's not a "Dan" tune because it's simply the best these guys are capable of and I look forward to more music in this vein.
I agree wholeheartedly with your "least" concept and I would run to be first on line for the CD.

I hope CarDanAl Fang will go easy on me at the heresy trial. Lord knows, I don't want the Comfy Chair!

I told my friend Veronica
As I played my harmonica
"OJ Simpson. Not Jewish!"

Raise up your glass!

Name: MC again

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 08:24:09

what was with the html tags in there and why didn't my stuff skip lines between sections of the post....St.Al, are you playing with the controls again? *hehehe*

Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 08:21:35

Roy....loved the Adam Sandler reference....he's a funny guy.
Ruby & Lester....yeah, If You Could Only See is what my fianceé and I think of as "our" song but it's in a bit of a strange was what I would have been singing to my ex to try and explain why I was gone. Not pretty, but honest.
for what it's worth....I turned 40 this year and love a lot of the new music out there and still listen to a lot of classic rock and jazz that I grew up listening to....hell, I just love listening to music and there's plenty of room for all of it....but that's just my opinion and you know what they say. Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.
Steely Dan moment for the day (yesterday actually but I didn't post then)....we were having lunch at Rock-ola Cafe after doing a little Christmas shopping yesterday and "Kings" came on the house PA....Shirl said "I guess you'll be posting this on the guest book?".....I said "yeah" here it is....hope everyone is doing ok and surviving or thriving....later.

Name: Reform School Bitch

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 07:54:24

Snake Mary- I think you got it wrong honey. See, I've already *had* Kinky. He gave it ALL to me without ever revealing the secret, and I can't express how satisfying that was. Enjoy it. I know I did.

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 05:53:26

To "head on a platter with genital garnish" -- I don't know if I agree with you, but thanks for bringing a smile with your reference to a line from my favorite movie, "The Ref", the viewing of which is a yearly holiday tradition for me and mine.

I don't know if Clinton is wagging the dog or not, but which appears healthier?: 1) a government and news industry absorbed by a war against actual bad guys or 2) a government and news industry posturing, obsessing and jacking off over nothing.

GKJohn-- Re your greatest hits list: The inclusion of a non-Fagen vocal and the omission of Reelin', Bad Sneakers, and Hey 19 would probably be classified as Steely heresy by the College of Car-dan-als. But consider this concept: One could release a 13 song album of the 'least brilliant' of Steely Dan (eg: Brooklyn, ..Movies, Glamour P, Fez, Earrings) and it would eclipse nearly every album on the Rolling Stone Top 200 list.

Clas: Apology accepted. For what, I'm not sure.

So drink your gin and tonika
and smoke your marijuanika
and have a Happy Channuka,


Name: Uncle Tony
@just fucking off!

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 02:46:22

Hey there kids! You people really need to get a grip!
These Dan fellers haven't done anything worth while
since...well since that reelin' song. I was 52 back
then and how I loved goin after them steelheads. Brings
back memories. You know that Clas feller could probably
write better songs, I'd bet my last tooth on it. See you

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 01:49:06

YGK; aquarell is a french word we use in Sweden, aqua = water, so the cheaper word is "watercolor". It's a very hard thing to do, paint with the real aquarelltechic, if you mess up, you just have to throw the shit away. You can't "save" it the way you do when you're paint over several layers in acryl- and oilcolors.

Thanks for the info on Park Slope, sounds like a great place.

Glad to see you RubyBaby. Have you been busy?

Name: Saddamy Salammi

Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 at 01:44:13

Billy and I used to play Battleship when we were both attending Oxford and damned if I didn't always have one of my ships over B-9. Bill would call out, "B-9" and I would look down and say to myself, "Fuck! Fuckin' B-9!" Then I would gather my composure and respond, "Nope. Another miss, Bill. My turn."

He would have caught on to my deception had it not been for my bumbling relatives who were always falling short of their "oil smuggling" quotas which forced me to withdraw from the game so I could string them up by their thumbs. God, I miss those innocent, care-free days of youth!

Sharin' the Sarin,


Name: HoLlyWoulD

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 21:27:04


somebody musta thought he said flick yur bic

what he really said was lic my dic

Name: David in the Florida Room
Peace@ on the GB

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 20:57:02

Ruby Baby, Yes dear and the song is "Mated" by non-other than Todd Rundgren...oh I've done it! a whole bunch o' nasty responses comin' this way...why ya gotta ask those questions girl? Hey, it was our first dance at the wedding......and we still like it!

Josie Danfan- hope you're OK kiddo.....
Lester-quit pissin' everybody off dude, or no more Steely Dan midi for you......I'm joking of course...but chill a little...respect your elders of which I'm one!

Name: sickman
in the chat room

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 20:16:39

What is going on with this freakin chat room?

Name: Lester the Nightfly

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 20:00:19

Travel Guide- Thank u for explaining this to me! U r obviously the wisest on here! R u sure this isnt Jesus?

Name: DrMu
how do you define "is?"

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 19:55:38

in = is

Name: DrMu
This date is steel-haired history

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 19:53:36

Where's the platform department: Ludwig van Beethoven was born on this date in Bonn, Germany 228 years ago.

Name: his head on a platter with a genital garnish
oh, and saddam should get it

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 19:53:29

well, well, well.

another bombing on the very eve of a crisis in bill's presidency. again. THE NIGHT BEFORE!


what I ask you WHAT happened to the aftereffects of that other bombing (Osama bin Laden) NOTHING. i bet it didn't even HAPPEN! and now he thinks we are so fucking STUPID that we'll fall for it AGAIN!

Name: Lester's Travel Guide
!!!!!!!!!!!EXPLAINING IT ALL FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 19:45:27

Here are THE RULES (they're handed out to everyone when turning 30, so don't feel bad about not knowing them):

1) Anyone 5 (five) years or more younger than you is a wet-behind the ears rookie. You possess wisdom and experience far beyond their years.

2) Anyone five (5) years or more older than you is a geezer, a fuddy-duddy who knows ZIP about the latest music, news, movies, trends, etc. etc.

3) The above rules apply even when you start receiving your first issue of Modern Maturity (don't worry, you'll find out what that is soon enough).

did I explain it all for "u?"

Me? I'm 61 years old (and 3 1/2 months!!!!!!!!) and love my chess games, garage full of Harley cycles, and eagerly awaiting the next Salt-n-Pepa and Will Smith CDs.

Name: Lester the nightfly
@sick and tired of being a fuckin patsee

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 19:32:47

I didnt realize how touchy women in their 30's were about being considered old. U women seem to make being in your 30's old, at least your being awfully defensive about the subject. I dont mean to keep bringing this up and I wont again unless someone else has something negative to add about it in response to what I'm saying now! I dont know who put the idea in your heads that being in your 30's is old, I do not feel this way so dont make it sound like I do, because your sure making it sound that way!
Who r all these 20 somethings that r attacking u Rose about making u feel old at 32? I have never heard someone our age(thats right I said our age) making people in their 30's feel old! If anything your making yourself seem older by your comments! I refuse to believe that if your only 5 years older than me that u have developed this wealth of knowledge that I cant even imagine because I'm a mere 27 come on give me a break!

Name: fezo

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 18:12:31

our songs:

I Volunteer, Glen Frey

Don't Get Me Wrong, The Pretenders

and on the history is doomed to repeat itself front:

I recall a certain Republican President, now in the raving and drooling phase of life, who faced with public outcry at the lax security which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of Marines at a barracks in Lebanon, suddenly discovered an tiny island in the Carribean that was in danger of being overrun by Cuban hordes.

Remember Granada guys and gals?

Name: Q

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 17:53:44

Boy you guys are uptight ! Let's see, what do I know about Kinky?
answer:he knows more than anyone else about what the band is up to right now - right ? So- I'll take $100 -'cause I
really do NEED it..........Q

Happy New Year(ie. here's to an album and a tour in '99) to all Ye Faithful Danfans everwhere- even you Clas(or is it Claus-I still haven't figured that out)

Name: Magnolia Boulevard
on the scuds

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 17:00:26

I find it totally coincidental that Mr. Prez pulled his wagging dog out right on the heels of the impeachment hearings.

IMHO, I think hiring a bounty hunter to track down Mr. So Damn Insane would have been a more appropriate move, but then who am I but just another scurvy brother.


Name: Earthbound
O Michael, O Jesus...
Location: Laughalot, IN
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 16:35:01

(Just outta the cave)

Hello fandom!
I distinctly remember many rumours back in '96 about
"the new one." First, it was 1997, then Spring '98,
followed by specific months during the summer of 1998.
Now we're exuding patience at the lip of Millenium Eve.
My only input would be that the lads are likely
licking the last of the lollipop as we long.

On occasion, one of the duo drops into an eatery
(location to remain unidentified), via the usual mode
of transportation, for libation and conversation with
the natives. Anyway, word is, he hasn't appeared
since... well, months ago. If any news is good news,
I'd say they're still HARD AT IT. Any month now...

Zeke: You da man! Question: Have you heard/seen Mike
West & Myshkin in town. They played a gig here a while
back and won the hearts of many. Please check 'em out
if you get the chance. The CDs smoke too.

Michael: Nice prose, here're my entries:

"PEG" = earlobe(s)
"Babylon Sisters" = mams
"Josie" = boatgirl
"Deacon" = manrod
"Katy" = kooch

(Back to the cave)


Name: DrMu
Wagging a fuckin' Rottweiler
Location: Goreing for a new Prez, Impeach this
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 15:52:32

Steve V: Couldn't agree more with your "nuts and scuds" theory. Truth is stranger than fiction...he's truly a 3rd World Man now...hope they don't hit another Preparation H factory.
But then on the other hand, if the FRENCH are condemming the attack!...the Gaul of them...didn't they see Hillary with the cold shoulder in Jerusalem?

Name: RubyBaby
Go tell it on Sun Mountain

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 15:49:10

JosieDanFan: Put on your Manhattan Transfer Christmas cd and know that we all care about you.

RoseDarling: Thanks for spanking Lester for us non-twenty somethings. Razor Boy is right - you da bomb, girl!

Any chance I can get a copy of Miracle on Green Flower Street? (I have a craving to hear O Little Town of Barrytown.) You crack me up!

ygk: I really love Tidal Wave Inn. (Is that by Mary Ulrich?) Is it gone yet?

MidniteC: I love hearing about everyone's favorite 98 releases. Good idea! I see you & your honey have a special song. Do you think of it as "our song"?

Question for anyone: Do you & yours have a song you consider to be "Our Song" ? Do people do that anymore?


Name: Rose Darling
@I'm Okay, You're Okay Sometimes

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 15:35:50

Razor Boy: Glad you feel better now. No charge for the cheer.

You just might have ageist tendencies there, dude. You started hurling remarks about what constitutes youth/old age or attitude around and you acted like others are old farts if they don't agree with you. And I've heard way too much of that crap from people in their twenties, even if barely under the 30 line. Anyway, I'm not mad at you, but just showing you the other side of the coin. Don't worry about what you post "at me" or anyone, you have a right to formulate and express your opinion (just remember, now and then someone IS going to challenge it around here.) Well, believe me, I'm one of the ones who's likely to go the easiest on you around here.
One thing it's hard to remember in cyber land is how people will react to your printed words when they can't see the inflection and emotions in your face behind them. Actually, I didn't intend my words to you harshly and mostly never do to anyone.
(Whippersnapper was not intended as a high insult, ya dig?)

LOL @your comments. Say, how many are the "bleachers assholes" and why are they so quiet lately? Who are these children who scheme and run wild? Are they worried about what Santa will leave in their stockings perhaps?

Name: John henry
records galore

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 13:22:48

uh-oh it sounds like JosieDanFan is on the other side of no tomorrow...

Name: STeve V Dan
@the washington zoo

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 12:31:24

Hey kids:

rants and raves for the week---isn't it great how the clowns in
Washington can go to great lengths to show that they CAN confirm out worst fears.....and of course it's equally pathetic that our Prez seems to have a "wag the dog" complex with Iraq.....

idea: how about we draft NY mayor Guliani and Oakland mayor Jerry Brown...for President/vice president in 2000...and of course we get Steely Dan to play at the innaugural ball

This Date in Steely History:
1982-'The Nightfly' hits #11 in Billboard
1980-'Hey 19' breaks US Top 40
1978-'Greatest Hits' goes Platinum
1977-'Aja' is certified Gold
1976-'Hatian Divorce' breaks UK Top 40
1973-Steely Dan II (w/Porcaro & McDonald) begins US Tour
1972-'Do It Again' enters Billboard Hot 100
1971-first Steely Dan sessions>'Midnite Cruiser','Dallas','Sail The Waterway', 'Everyones Gone To The Movies' etc
1970-pot party at Diaz' place in Hicksville
1969-pot party in Brooklyn
1968-pot party at Bard
1967-Becker tunes guitar
1966-Fagen pounds some Monk tunes at wild party upstate w/Chevy Chase and Blythe Danner...

Name: YGK
Location: New York, NY
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 06:14:50

Clas: "aquarell"? What is that? I'm pissed that my web-guy is redesigning and only is showing two artists - well, actually 4 right now, if you go to the Events Section. Anyway, I'm told the rest of the Member artists will be up soon, and more are coming!

Park Slope, Brooklyn, is a current Real Estate Fave among the well heeled, however, is also an ethnically diverse place where artists, lesbians, children, misfits, long-time Brooklyn-ites and others live. It's one of the most civil, integrated, modern communities around...
...lot's of people who love Steely Dan live there as well.....


Name: GK John
Take Me Where the Music Plays

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 06:10:02

Clas: Ease up big fella! You're starting to babble!

Josie: Come back! You're the pride of the neighborhood! We really mean it! It's nearly time to dance on the bones, girl!

Name: Snake Mary
just slithtering through

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 06:06:24

School Girl, move aside girl before I sink my venomous fangs into your leg. You can ask questions about whoever you wish here, but Kinky is mine!

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 02:22:56

What I really mean is; if I could, I should strike that last line in my post dated Wednesday, Dec 16, 1998 at 01:27:02.

Name: for cryin it out loud
@ work

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 02:19:07

I can listen to Gaucho, can't I? The guys were, maybe around 30 plus or something way back then? I listen to that music, no problem.

No bad blood here, no no.

Name: Clas

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 02:16:12

Okay okay, I don't wanne hurt anyone. Let's say I can listen and enjoy music that is done by folks that are, let's say, 35 - 36 years old.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 02:13:49

And if there are any misunderstandings I can write you a personal letter and explain this a little better.

Name: henry hyde
only 9 days to my birthday...

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 02:13:33

Clas: keep your hands off my ego....

Name: Clas
all my blood ran to my brother

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 02:10:55

Roy - what I mean is, or what I don't mean is;

I'm not "sorry" for that. I'm GLAD for that exception. Do you know what I mean?

Name: Clas
@ w

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 02:07:36

"And if I'm listening to music it has to be done by folks in my age or older."

Except for Roy Scam.

I'm sorry for that Roy.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 at 01:27:02

SCHWINN - "The Year Of The Tiger"? I didn't know it existed. God damn.

YGK - Ulrich is great too. I really like this stuff. Is Ulrich's paintings aquarell? And what is Park Slope? A place in Brooklyn?


Words Of Wisdom:

I don't wanne hear/listen to new music. Why? Because it's fucking boring. I've heard it before at least seven times, and no fucking youngster can tell me things I didn't already knew thousand times better.

And if I'm listening to music it has to be done by folks in my age or older.

Name: Schwinn

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 23:24:04

Packard: Wish I was a girl so I could be included in your smarmy lust-club. Let me guess: Your wife is computer illiterate. Would you like a couple of free passes to the sneak screening of "You've Got Mail"? I can arrange that AND a bottomless bucket of hot, buttered popcorn for you and your insignificant "other".

Favorite Album of 1998: Joni Mitchell's "Year of the Tiger".

Best Song: "Lotus" by Michael Stipe and Peter Buck.

Best Running Gag: Bruce Hornsby.

Best Stationary Front: The present.

Only 3 1/2 Weeks Till Donald's 51st,


Name: Babylon Sister

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 22:48:17

Thanks Hermit, I thought it was you. Mail to your e-address was returned-- Please write me at address above as I need to consult your vast wisdom.

Thanks again, sweetie.


Name: StAlphonzo

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 22:00:17

Hey now! A couple of quick notes... Many people are wondering about the newly remastered CBAT and Countdown CD's, where to buy and how to tell. Well, I added a link to the Collectibles page that will take you right to them. CDnow wont give me a definite answer as to their catalog, so I linked up with Soundstone. They have both CD's in stock and they're running around $8.50 each. What a perfect stocking stuffer....

Also, in case anyone cares or even remembers, we had a winner to the "Guess The Danfan Contest" we held a few months back. It was PATTSJAZZ. Thanks to everyone who participated and thanks for your patience.

Saw Big Head Todd and the Monsters in a very small club last Saturday night. THat Todd Parkmore can play the guitar. Whoa. Haven't had to stand for that length of time in a very long time. I think I'm getting too old for this shit. Drink a couple of beers, do that ganja thing and I'm ready for bed at 11. Criminy

Later, StAl

Name: lester
@ sorry I forgot

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 21:16:36

Rose- I just read what I wrote again and now I can see how u would take what I said that way! I'm sorry I didnt word my comments very well I was meaning to be talkin in the 3rd person! I was basically describing myself on how I can get in a rut where for a few months I will only listen to classic rock and just by chance everytime I check to hear whats new on the radio it would suck so thats how I meant that its easy to get outdated and old fashion about music. I really am sorry! I'll just stop making comments in your direction, no hard feelings, ok!

Name: Lester the nightfly

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 21:04:54

Rose- I dont think u should use my age as a defense mechanicsm when u dont agree with me. Its silly because u wouldnt agree with anything I said no matter how old I was, I mean I'm 27 your a couple of years older big fuckin deal! I'm sorry u took what I said that negative because it wasnt meant to be. I was just trying to give some friendly advise, with all my twentysomething years of useless knowledge and experice, I swear, and u took it totally the wrong way, so again I'm sorry, I publicly apologize!
I dont wont u to be mad at me, come on please dont be mad at me ok, pretty please! With sugar on top!


Name: Razor Boy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 20:28:10

Whoosh! I first thought that refreshing gust of fresh air was little more than than a northeast wind, when really it was "Rose Darling" setting the table for a lot of us other "Dan Fans" who know what they like, and could care less when it was recorded or howw others feel about it. Finally, some venting that makes me feel shout out and say "Yes, that's exactly what I need right now!" Thank you Rose Dahlink, for getting me out of this funk.

Name: Reform School Girl

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 19:12:00

Q- I'll give you a hundred bucks to tell me EVERYTHING you know about Kinky. Only then will I be able to find sleep once more. And besides, I bet you could use the cash.

Name: Q

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 18:34:20

Oh come on Kinky ! The rest of us old GB assholes are still watching the show from out here on the bleachers - so come on , you know we want you to "spill" - You Got The News

Name: Q

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 18:33:55

Oh come on Kinky ! The rest of us old GB assholes are still watching the show from out here in the bleachers - so come on , you know we want you to "spill" - You Got The News

Name: Michael C. Packard
Location: Cool Night In The Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 17:00:41

Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!!!

Got the remastered CBAT and CTA----sounds GREAT through the headphones----can tell Roger "The Immortal" Nichols and crew did some excellent work on these. Can't wait for "Katy Lied" and "Pretzel Logic" to come.

The following prose was written by a lady DanFan, and the particular references to "names" are relating to female "body parts". So, if the DanFan sensuous ladies (who all are, btw) don't want to read it, don't!!! One reference is made of a male "body part".

Contest: Maybe you can use your imagination to figure out just want "body parts" the SD "names" in this prose represent.

The Steely Dan Revue Band

So many songs, so little time
To hear them all, to hear them rhyme
The only way we won't miss one
is for us to plan some nighttime fun!!

So come, my love, recline with me
In our bedroom, so heavenly
Pulses increasing
Hormones releasing
First drops of juices that we love to see

First, play "Peg", she needs to be heard
She whispers and sighs and speaks not a word
Please kiss her, she yearns for that first sweet taste
Of her lover's lips upon her, all over her face
And finally, Peg will know what it's like
To have her name up there in lights

Now, "Babylon Sisters", it's nearly your turn
We know, of course, you two also yearn
For your mouth, taking you all the way in
First one, then the other, then the first one again
Wonderful touches from your gently cupped hands
Transporting you both to faraway lands

And, "Josie" still spends all her time coming home
She is the raw flame, yes, she's the live wire
She knows you ignite her fire
The reason why Josie never ever will roam

A second CD player, we'll have to bring in
For "Deacon Blues" must play again and again
He's the background music that makes other sounds
Emerge while you are making your rounds

"Deacon" learned to work the inside scenes
He plays just what he feels
The girls always know just what he means
They love their Deacon Blue meals

"Katy" joins "Deacon" in a synchronized beat
No wonder we think these two songs are so neat
Surely the day of the expanding man
The day "Deacon" walked in, and "Katy's" life began
You even brought ice cubes to cool down the heat

Interesting and sensuous---like the WB & DF's music and lyrics!!


; )

Name: Rose Darling
@swallowing my Geritol with a prune juice spritzer and a twist of lemon

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 16:01:09

Lester the Naive Young Nightfly:
We'll see how you feel about pop music when you get to your thirties. Trust me, after a while, lyrics about the same old thing might just possibly bore you, unless you have the simplest interests. I for one don't care one iota if to anyone it seems "outdated" or "old fashioned" just because I don't like or don't have interest or don't keep current with new music, especially the proliferated crap called "alternative" and that noise assault called "rap." I am open minded, but I don't need to subscribe to current music trends so that I belong or am cool. And one more thing, you whippersnapper, what makes you think you know what keeps one "feeling young and alive"? You got a lot of years ahead of you, I hope, so I'm sorry you view aging in such a negative light. What do you envision me as, already checked into the nursing home by now?

Nothing personal, Lester, but if one more twentysomething puts me in dentures and a wheelchair because I'm in my thirties, I'm gonna start swatting them with my walking stick ! I'm gonna fling my dentures at them ! And you should know better, this is the usual harassment someone like you must get when you tell your other twentysomething friends you like Steely Dan and they say, "Steely WHO?" or they call YOU outdated and tell you to get with the 90's.

"rap with your cane, feels nice..."

P.S. My parents never told me to turn the music down and they never disliked anything I played around the house. Is this loud music thing a rebellious issue for you? Loud music can damage the eardrums... ever heard of tinnitus? Maybe that's why all those rap fan idiots have to blare their stupid rap songs louder than anything I've ever heard... to cover up the ringing sensation.

P.S. P.S. Yeah I know those comments were to the Stranger, but just in case you didn't know, we all turn into our parents eventually, that is, if we grow up. And it ain't necessarily a bad thing either. Terminal teenagerness would have wiped out the human race a long time ago.

Josie: :)
WHAT the heck kind of post was that last one, girl?
Don't be posting no freakin' mock suicide notes in here...
December is a bitch enough without that !!!

Ruby, Geena, where are you???

Name: Sociable Hermit

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 13:54:30

Babylon Sister:

Alright, I admit it, it was me. All of them annonymous posts. There, it's out.
Ahh, I feel so much better...............................(oops. Too many?)

Josie Dan Fan: Should we be concerned about your last post, or is it simply that you were cold and alone, then had to go somewhere?

No stories today, that's all for now.


Name: Lester the Mid Afternoon Fly

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 12:33:26

Stranger- How old r u? Do u find yourself turning into your parents? How can u say all new music is bad. Dont u ever remember listening to music as a young man and your parents telling u to turn that shit down or off?
If its too loud your too old, remember?

Name: TheStranger
can't buy a thrill

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 09:58:31

lester nightfly,
listening to bad music won't keep or make you young. but it can make you stupid & unpleasant.

josie dan fan,
you're not ending it all, are you? what was that last depressed post about? speak to me. i know you're looking at another xmas with no new Dan material, but there's lots of stuff to be thankful for. i just can't think of it right now.

Name: Babylon Sister
...Try again tomorrow...

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 09:53:47

Hey Kinkle--

I wanted to tell you I enjoyed your references to "Porgy and Bess" (Summertime), and also to REO Speedwagon. What a combo!

Goodbye? Where ya goin' girl?

Yeah, it was to me. A TR thing, you know?

Love Y'all, N.

Name: GK John
On the Dunes

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 09:03:50

Sorry DFs, my vote for 1998 goes to "Under the Radar" by Little Feat. Not their best, but it's growing on me. Soon I'll be playing it to death on my Walkman! I'm still ODing on "Kama" this month.

While I'm at it... If I were putting together a SD compendium of G-Hits on one album: (In no particular order. Well, kind of)
1) Century's End
2) Black Cow
3) Haitian Divorce
4) Western World
5) Kid Charlemagne
6) Dr Wu
7) My Old School
8) King of the World
9) Black Friday
10) Night by Night
11) Don't Take Me Alive
12) Only A Fool
13) Dirty Work
14) Rikki

And if there was room... Everything on Kamakiriad!

Ya know... There's just not enough room on ANY thing to hold ALL my faves! Hmmmmm.

Ciao for now

Name: JosieDanFan

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 08:07:34

so alone so cold..

Name: YGK
Location: New York, NY The Daring
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 07:02:30

Clas: "Burning" is a sentimental fav of the artist - Fig is the name of the culmination of a collaborative husband and wife team. Javier's Colombian, Mary's Irish - what a crew! They're fantastic people who've lived in the Slope for close to 20 years. They also did some licensed Grateful Dead designs...

(WARNING: Shameless Plug!): C'mon Dead/Dan heads - check out


Name: F.P.R
I really want to know

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 06:46:07

'98 song: Clapton, She's Gone.

Kink: "who who, who who"

Name: Saddle On Mister

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 05:54:42

yeah, jooohop!

Name: Alf

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 05:43:26

ha ha ha ha

Name: Mock Kelly
Nude Range

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 05:40:26

It's tragic to see how the exhibitors bicycles.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 05:16:27

TUNA fish, fuckhead!

Name: Kinkle
Location: dad is rich, and mama's good lookin'
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 05:15:04

re Will Lee ------ you can tune a piano but you can't tune a fish.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 05:09:25

Beats me.

Name: Ed
The World As I See It
Location: in USA,
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 05:07:01

re Will Lee - *chrystal clear*? What has that to do with the tuning?

Name: Clas
@ keep up the good

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 05:03:27

Dell Vikings? Those were Swedes eh?

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 04:47:11

Best record of 98: "Come Go With Me" by the Dell Vikings, no, wait, that was forty years ago. Never mind.

Name: Clas
@ art

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 03:28:38

YGK; you daring New Yorker, if I had money I'd buy "Burning Issue" - Fig Agredo. Love it.

Is Fig Agredo a third worlder?

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 03:01:23

In Defense Of Babylon Sister; your doing great. Congrats.

Babylon Sister; your doing great too. I'm proud of you sweetie.

Not Jaco; I guess you're right. He's probably "the most wanted" sessionplayer you have over there. He might play the hippest chops on earth but still, his music is out of personality. You know, I've been around the block several times, I mean, I've played in jamsessions since 1953, and we used to have rules there; first; play the melody, bidge and the refrain, then, the saxplayer starts with a kind of "searching" solo, and then, depending on the the response from the audience, he could go for one more.

Then, quite in opposite to what is/was common, we'd let the upright bassplayer (sometimes he was so drunk you could hardly say he was "upright", more "under the table") play those usually fucking boring bassolos and, that was it.

But in fact, I listened to Letterman with headphones last night, and I think someone have told mr Lee to tune his bass. It was chrystal clear.

God job.

Name: Lester the nightfly

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 23:40:31

MC- Thanx! I like that song alot too. Y is that a special song
for u and your finacee? I love the chord progression in that song, when i learned how to play that song I was surprised how that strange chord progression could sound so beautiful together!
I dont know about u but I love when a song can make u remember different wonderful things in your life!

Fezo- I dont blame D&W for sell the rights to sample Black Cow!
Imitation is the sincereous form of flatery, I didnt always feel that way towards sampling, I always thought the original artist was just selling out for a quick buck, but I've been alot more open minded since then. But I do agree I have no idea how much they got but it probably wasnt enough.

Rose- There is alot of great new music out there! You just have to be open minded about it, it will help u keep feeling young and alive. When it comes to music its easy to become out dated and old fashion about it. I never want to get to the point where I see young people listening to music and thinking how can they listen to this crap!

Name: Babs

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 22:52:40

Babylon Sister: so that post to Babs was to you? I thought it was directed to me; now I can quit trying to figure out what the hell it was about.

...try again tomorrow

Name: Babylon Sister
How can I change the world if I can't change myself?

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 22:39:07

"In Defence"--
You are my knight in shining armour, coming to my emotional rescue. To you my most sincere thanks, and my greatest admiration. Come and sit at the table, as I am preparing your favorite dinner, and there is plenty of ice cold beer and wine in the fridge...(wink!)

Thank you, and Merry Christmas to you! N.

Name: Rose Darling

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 19:40:24

Youz guys:
A phrase inserted for colloquialism and style, not intended to offend the more grammatically proper amongst us.

Name: Rose Darling
@finally cooling down in south Florida

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 19:36:05

Gotta agree with you on that one man. Don and Walt should never, EVER let anyone sample their music. As you say, it "sullies" their music by getting it entangled with those stupid rip off rap songs. Sampling is the bastard son of originality. Sampling makes me wanna puke, plain and simple. Any artist (or should I say, rip off artist) who samples to build a song around shouldn't be allowed within a hundred feet of a recording studio IMnotsohumbleO. Musicians of the world: come up with your own f$%#ing songs.

Midnite Cruiser:
There I was, going along, having the usual dumpy December, and you had to remind me that I don't listen to much new music. Can't think of a single thing to contribute to the discussion about favorite recording/single except my embarrassing musical ignorance. Embarrassing, that is, if I gave a crap.

"... and somebody else's favorite song"

Stuck in Classic Rock Pie a La Mode,
The Rose

P.S. This was one of those days where I had not much to say.
And I chose to post anyway and possible waste some or youz guys time. But there was a space after my ! Today, grammar over content, perhaps.

Name: DrMu
what's not to fear and loathe?

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 18:54:53

I didn't really listen to a lot of new stuff but:

Single - "Brick" by Ben Folds Five

cover - Linda Ranstadt does a real nice "Cry 'til my tears run dry" produced by George Massensburg from the We Ran CD, with a nice solo by Plas Johnson and Feat's Fred Tackett on guitar...a bit of a Dan-like sound here...smoooooothhh

Albums - first half of "Try Whistling This" by Neil Finn. The song "Sinner" has some interesting jazz overtones - a departure.

- great performances on "Two Blocks from the Edge" by
Michael Brecker

Rediscovered album from the archives: "Renaissance" by the
Branford "the cool one" Marsalis

Spoken Word: Liner notes from the new and improved Countdown to should hear Walter do a German accent.

Name: zsamin

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 18:15:28

'98 faves: can't decide on one favorite...

Pilgrim - Clapton
Fellowship - Brian Blade
Gaucho* - SD
Stunt - BNL

*i know, i know, but i just bought it.
does the re mastered countdown count?
oh yeah, Taming the Tiger, too.

warner reprise has been beddybeddygud2me.

.. um, re: free furby ... i think i got a chain letter about freeing furby ...

Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 16:58:50

for me, favorite recording of the year was Radiance by Athenaeum.

favorite single of the year was If You Could Only See by Tonic. both the acoustic and electric versions. it was a very special song for my fianceé and myself.

good call Lester!

keep 'em coming y'all....I'm always looking for some good, new tunes!

Name: fezo

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 13:02:00

The ongoing 70's musical festival is finally over at my house (listen carefully, you can hear the neighbor's applause). I finally broke down and got a new CD player. First out of the box, Kama, and soon thereafter, Aja. It's like hearing 'em again for the first time. I'd never noticed the little bit of solo piano right after the end of the sax solo in the title cut of the latter. Nice.

I think that Donald and Walter did not get enough money from Lord Torq and Peter Gunz (or whatever in the hell they're called) for stealing the "Black Cow" intro. Why? Cause when I put Aja on this morning my immediate reaction to hearing the first song begin was "Damn, I left the radio on and now I have to listen to that rap crap". I can't believe only myself would have that reaction. I think our heroes may have inadvertently sullied their musical reputations.

Great question about musical favorites from 1998. Alas, being CDless for much of the year has cut down on the number of possible nominations. From the radio here's a wildcard for Single of the Year "Matches" by Sammy Kershaw. He's a country singer who sounds like a cross between Jones and Haggard. Album of the year nominations await weeks of feverish catching up.


Name: Magnolia Boulevard
Up Yours

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 12:03:28


Writing is an art form.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Come down from the high you're on, your defense system (Gaucho) has disappeared from the Guestbook.

Name: In Defense Of In Defense

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 11:40:55

After review, I myself have noticed many of my own spelling errors. In my own defense, let me say that I wrote quickly before the muse darted off or fell into a pool of apathy. Speed always out races accuracy. But, accuracy is in training. It's getting up two hours before speed and lifting weights to bulk up. It may never be faster than speed, but when speed slows to catch it's breath, accuracy should be able to kick its ass.


Name: In Defense Of Babylon Sister
Standing in front with shield raised high

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 10:36:29


Fuck off. Go nit pick some frustrated writers group in a tony suburb near your town. This isn't the Strunk & White's Guest Book. As the recalcitrant say, "Rules were meant to be broken".
Now, obviously I do not mean those which can harm others; I mean the obstensibly unyielding literary ones. If all the rules were followed, we would not have the likes of Salinger, Kerouac, Ginsberg, Vonnegut Jr., etal.
Don't be a snotty, elitist punk. So what, she used more elipses than needed. Maybe next time she can use a few less in order to maintain an accurate average. The only ones around here that care about style over content are those who cannot provide any content of their own, and need to feel supierior by criticizing others. Babs, and everyone else for that matter, has every to misspell, err, and fill these pages with whatever their hearts desire. And you, and anyone else, who doesn't care for it, has the right not to read it. Now, if she took a position which was the polor opposite to a personal philosophy of yours, THEN you have to right to object. That is a debate. What you have shown us is small-minded pissing. If you truly feel the way you suggested to Babs, then, take take your own advice; if you have nothing to say, then just check in and read the posts. There is no need for you to feel obligated to fill space.
Until then, fuck off.

Thank you

And, feel free all of you, to correct my grammer, spelling and usage.

Name: Babylon Sister
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 10:16:13


As far as "making noise", I was just responding to a question asked of me, DO YOU MIND?

I am so sorry about breaking your dot rule, I didn't know that the punctuation police were on patrol. I won't let it happen again... see? Please forgive me, oh mighty Clas.


Name: Not Jaco

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 07:27:40

Yo Clas, Will Lee may have a huge ego, but he aint no lemon! Will and Marcus Miller seem to get all the calls when it comes down to bass gigs. Big head yes, lemon no!

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 02:41:24

Babylon Sister; I feel the need to remind you of the dot-rules we have here. Three dots, nothing more, nothing less... and space after dots, okay? Do you think this is too much to ask for? And if you don't have anything important to say, just check out without posting, you don't HAVE to make noise.

My fave-CD this year? It's "Spirit Trail", BRUCE HORNSBY, listen to it kids, it's a killer. It's very alive, today-ish and contemporary. The sound is so incredible.

I am preparing for my trip to the Big Easy next year. Yesterday I bought a hughed can of Peanut Butter, "Smooth" Peanut Butter, it was good!

Name: sou sourry
it should be

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 02:29:41


Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 at 02:00:38

I watched a video with Steve Gadd the other night. Is he sleepy or what?

It was fun seeing him show how he uses the brushes, on an empty Amp-tape box instead of the snare.

And funny thing was, Will Lee was one of the session players. He's still a lemon to me... a stiff lemon.

Happy birthday Alias Robot and Irving Ass Off!

Name: JosieDanFan
dance on the bones 'til the girls say when...

Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 at 20:22:07

Hello fellow Dan fans!!
Christmas spirit has been restored to my heart. The tree is trimmed, presents wrapped, and the fuses replaced in the strings of lights. I still however think the whole thing is over-rated, and the true meaning of Christmas has been almost lost for good.

Favorite album of 1998: tie- Seal "Human Beings" and Barenaked Ladies "Stunt"

Favorite Song of 1998: that one song..that they play over and over and over on the radio until you can't hardly stand to hear it anymore! No seriously...I don't have one. But if I really had to choose, it wouldn't be by the BackStreet Boys.

Lester: At the risk of sounding dumb, why are you speechless?

Good night all..

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 at 19:19:28

I just received this excerpt form the Loony Toons Tribute to Steely Dan air time presently undetermined. Unfortunately, it's not available on Real-Audio:

Porky: P-P-P-Peeya- P-P -Peg it will come b-b-bya-back-uh ...

Daffy: Jutht a minute! I've been fffthtrung out here all night. Are you wifffth me Doctor Woo-Woo -WOO -Woo ...

Bugs: Are you trying to say "What's up", Doc? Ehh..look out, Doc, here comes Elmer with a gun.

Elmer: Wheya did the bastawd wun? Is he stiw-a-waound?

Speedy Gonzales: Si', solamente un tanto diria eso.

Ken Starr: What did that mouse say?

Foghorn: He said, I say, he said, "only a fool, I say, would say that", I say, you heah?

Pepe Le Peux: Voulez, voulez, voulez vous?


Name: Kinky
don't tell it to a poor man

Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 at 17:17:43

Favorite recording? How 'bout the re-re-re-re-recording of the old remastered Can't Buy A Thrill? That's 1998's top vote-getter in my book.

Freakin' P. R. - No, I got lots of info I could spill. But, somehow I don't think the GBer's of today would find it nearly as interesting as Eviva's wedding plans. By the way, you said I'm "someone else by now"? Nope, I'm the same ol' me. Funny thing is, I don't remember the same ol' you... now, who did you say is someone else, again?

Name: Babylon Sister

Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 at 16:51:57

Dear Curious one--
The "Lovely lines" I referred to were posted on Dec 7th, by "Babs knows who / Parallel lines". The reward depends on the gender of the sender! MCP, was it you? Hermit? Goodness exists in the universe.....Read it, know it, live it.......


Name: Lester the Nightfly

Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 at 15:48:43

MC- My favorite recording this year has to be Kenny Wayne Shepard
My favorite single is If u could only see by Tonic!

Josie- I'm speachless!


Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 at 13:35:34

as the year draws to an end I'd like to ask everyone:

Favorite Recording of the Year:


Favorite Single of the Year:

they need not have been on the charts, just what 1998 releases grabbed you the most....can't wait to see the diverse responses and who knows, we might each get turned on to some cool new tunes!

Name: Curious One
In A Curious Place

Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 at 12:25:31

What lovely lines are you referring to, Babylon Sister? Point them out so we can all read them. It would be nice to read something lovely for a change.

And, tee-hee, what is the reward that awaits?

Name: David in the Florida Room

Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 at 06:22:06

Happy Birthday to Jeff " Skunk" Baxter

Name: Barnabus

Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 at 03:37:11

Son of David: Illumination and psychosis are seperated only by "well-intentioned" relatives and the threat of probate. Yes, I have taken the hits but none so curious as the package you delivered to my door. It took all my snuff just to analyze it and I daresay it took me much longer than the 56 seconds you had to analyze me. Does this make sense or do you feel like you've entered a "non-representational" area? Don't worry. I have always liked Paul and will be there again when he needs me.

BTW, Jesus recently took a poll while the world was in "theta" sleep and determined that only 53,315 people world-wide believe that Steely Dan is the best band in the world. On the other hand, almost seventeen times as many people believe that Garth Brooks is the best and they, on average, drive much more menacing vehicles with almost twice the curb-weight as the typical Danophile.

What I'm trying to say is be careful what you carry. I can take the pummeling from the Oort Cloud but these inside jabs of yours are totally inappropriate and you'd be much more successful trying to rope Shania Twain or lassoing Clint Black than riding the Bull of Heaven...

Your Tax Piasters at Work,


Name: Son of David or
Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 at 00:44:16

Shaman: Shaman to Shaman: Received any messages lately? Ref: 981211, 15:01:29. "I just throw that in, to serve me, and to serve thee." 'Ya know floods, hurricanes, etc. There ain't no doomsday soon, but, we have; received our warning: Shoemaker Levy Niner (Nine) Thanx Mr. Jupiter, ("Thank You Mister Jupiter") - you have absorbed most, so that we can survive on the third ()from our Sun. (Is this of what Tori Amos speaks of?) Does 'Steely Dan' plan to release a new album, or just play in San Diego during the year 2000? Peace// ... D.

Name: Michael C. Packard
Location: Starry & Cool Night in the PineyWoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 at 19:50:28

Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!!

Was damn disappointed to not be able to get into the "ParaChat" room the other night for Geena and EvivaLaughs---Oh, Well!!!

Another despicable "DanMoment" this evening. One of my friends from New Hampshire----also a "transplant" to TexAss----told me when we were loading up some furniture for a Christmas present for a destitute relative tonight, "I haven't listened to Steely Dan for a number of years!" He further stated he wanted to come over, sit in my hot tub and listen to Steely Dan because one of his friends used to date a woman named "Peg" when it was popular.

Geez, these top-40 people!!! Anyway, the furniture was loaded, the 'homeless' relative will be happy to have two new FlexSteel recliners and a Dupont 'Corian' table to eat Christmas dinner on in Oklahoma (where I am from and a native)!!!

So, Babylon Sister-----let-me-tell the GB about my live studio interview with Todd Rundgren sometime, okay???

Saludos and a Happy Evening For All-Of-You-Great DanFans!!!

; )

P.S.: Does anyone know what Walter and Donald's favorite alcoholic beverages are?? Surely they have some favorite 'brands', too??

Name: Babylon Sister
....Just a reflection of your inspiration.....

Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 at 15:45:56

Yes, Bab DOES know WHO!!!

Thank you to whomever posted those lovely lines for me.
WE know, don't we??? Come forward, and reveal yourself to claim the reward that awaits you.................

Name: Lester the early evening fly
Location: St. Petersburg, FL USA
Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 at 14:05:33

Hello Baton Rouge, will u turn your bullshit detector down!
Respect the 7 sec. delay, I've waited all night for post like these!!!

Y'all know its days like these that u dont mind workin out doors!
I cant tell ya how perfect it would be to have danfest in st.pete
right now. Its so beautiful out, not a freakin cloud in the sky, I'll be down on the beach at sunset, would anyone care to join me?


Name: JosieDanFan
I'm the grinch

Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 at 11:44:17

Christmas...I'm beginning to hate it..A LOT!!!!!!! The really awful thing is that I'm taking out my frustrations on innocent by standers. I may have to post from jail if I keep this up...

Lester: Your sense of humor sucks may have been trying to be funny, but it didn't come across that way considering everything we talked about earlier. If you have no hard feelings..I don't either. but more jokes.


Name: Babylon Sister

Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 at 20:04:20

Fellow Onionheads, LISTEN UP--

I just heard on the radio that OUR TODD (Rundgren), will be coming here to San Diego on St. Patty's Day as part of Ringo Starr's All Star Band!! YIPPEE!!! Christmas comes early for the Nick-Girl!!! Thank you, Jesus!! Check your local listings, for he may be coming soon to a town near YOU!!!

Name: Shaman
going out to get drunk on reality

Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 at 15:01:29

Bah, humbug.

Name: Steve Vin
dazed@the dude ranch

Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 at 11:58:10

found a funny article by Roger (the immortal) Nichols while surfing the web:

'The Shortest Tour'..about the 'Dan's three day 1995 tour.....

have a great weekend/holiday people....and don't stress out the is the Steely Dan messageboard.......

where cynicism is peppered with inspired rays of optimism.........

Name: clas
god, I'm tired

Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 at 04:12:29

Hi Eviva! Be happy!

It was fun chatting with you guys (first time for me).

YGK - just bills. But I wait!

I took a quick look into your site. Looks VERY interesting. Cool, gonna take a closer look when I got more time.

Geena - hi friend!

Name: Ida Lee

Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 at 00:24:57

Mimi--the only thing we have in common is seven inches below our belly buttons. But I don't need to pack saline in order to stand out in a crowd. I don't need a clas action suite on Bourbon Street. You can have the "Great Divide", but "Mt. Mu" is mine...

Queen of Scheme,

Ida "know" Rose

Name: Dave
Dr2241Cage@Mindless.Com or
Location: Where@DylanGotKickedOutForDancingOnTheTables, OOSAH
Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 23:18:55

Guestbook Rules: "We'll all dance on the tables, and not get kicked out." Soon to happen. Thanx Mr. Bob D. (Dylan) D.
? (Mr. Smith from Barrytown kicked him out for dancing on the tables.) Ya lublu

Name: ZsaZshahaaaa

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 21:14:16

Rose, Christmas careelin with the yearlings will never be the same.

so long

ending with a preposition.

Name: EvivaLaughs
Location: or is it the holidays,
Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 19:04:27

Boy, you guys are cool.

Darlin' Rose, Geena, Ruby, Oleander, Stranger, Dr Mu, Florida Room David, Mitch, Clas, GK John, Josie and ANYBODY I missed: THANKS a bunch for all the nice words and advice. I definitely need Geena's boxed patience (can't you tell :) ?) but I'm beginning to understand that the purpose of wedding preps is to TEACH you how to compromise! And--how to appreciate any spare time you can get! Right on Ruby/Rose...

Oh, and Rose: What a scream of a song list. You saved your best four for last--LOL at those!!

Roy.Scam: without realizing it you give me advice anyway: watch out for those dangling, um, participles...!

Stranger: Javva the Hutt--how appropriate. The bloated beast who sticks its lolling, gagging tongue out at you as you drop down a hole...

Dr. Mu: Hmmm, let me think...I have a sneaking suspicion who it was, only I'm afraid to say his name lest he pop out again!

Hey, if I don't see y'all--



Name: Rose Darling
@Linguistics Anonymous... or, Ubiquitous?

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 17:00:35

"I Just Want to Be Your Everything" Andy Gibb song.
"I Just Want It To Cool Down Already" Rose Darling blues tune.
P.S. You'd better come up with more obscure lyrics for the trivia game than from Hotel California there, dude.

Roy Scam:
"When you strut a tight little sentence structure and a great set of nouns in front of a guy ... " Gee, and we all thought the way to a man's heart was through his stomach.
God bless you, man, that you have managed to keep yourself from straying from the Mrs. Scam all these years with all the vociferous verbiage vixens running around.
"The Dan only violate the laws of proper structure for legitimate artistically valid reasons." Which must be why GBer's therefore have full license to spell/punctuate any way they want, since we know it barely resembles real life in here, so it must be art.

Perhaps it takes Yoda's help to actually get into the chat room these days, so "they" say. And lots of java if you are Clas staying awake at five a.m. in Sweden.

Yeah, what was the deal with Randy Meisner, why did he permanently exit the Eagles? He did some mega-cool tunes with them. Wondering what he's doing these days?

Eviva a.k.a. Lesley "It's My Party and I'll Cry if I Want To" Gore:
So sorry you didn't get in... damned techno bouncers.
My gift to you was to give you a virtual copy of the book,
The Art of Compromise. No, not compromising positions, but the ability to compromise is a skill you will invoke frequently when you meld your life with another's. Geena's ingredients will go well with this cookbook for marital success.
Also, as a consolation prize for not being able to get into your own party, I am sending you a copy of this little known Steely Dan Christmas album called "Miracle on Green Flower Street" with the following tunes on it:
O Holy Black Cow
It Came Upon a Midnite Cruiser
Deacon Blue Christmas
Santa Ruby Baby
Home for the Holidays At Last
Throw Back the Cheap Gifts
North Pole Toodle-Oo
O Little Town of Barrytown
Yes Virginia, You Can Buy a Thrill
Silent Night by Silent Night
Joy to Any World (That I'm Welcome To)*
Caves of Ave Maria
The Christmas Song (Chestnuts Roasting in the Fire in the Hole)
All I Want For Christmas (Is My II Gold Teeth)

*Roy Scam: Note this ending on a preposition

Name: Lorn

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 15:21:52

I don't know if Don and Walt ever were asked to do Saturday Night Live. Why do I get the feeling you know, but won't tell us? You freakin PR.

Name: RubyBaby
w@iting for Gadot

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 15:12:19

Razor Boy: I'm not really waiting for the *new one*. I'm just trying to live each day 1 at a time here...

You're right - it's all over the place on this gb. Now's a good time to people watch. Let's pull a sofa out onto the balcony, pour ouselves a tall whatever (I'll take a steamy mug of wassail, please) and just kick back a while.

RScam: You'd make a heck of an English teacher. Where were you when I was in high school? I would have listened to you.

fezo: deacon blues/western world mix, eh? I'd think those 2 would blend fairly well together. Turn it up sometime so I can hear it, okay?


Name: Freakin P.R.
workin the dragline

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 12:34:58

Gloria: Thanks for the site. Your right. One thing for sure, I won't get any info here. Kinky was a great resource, but he's gone, or someone else by now.

Lester: Yea, me too. But the ? was billion?
NBA players think it's fair. Funny thing about the NBA is no one gives a shit.

had Don and walt ever been approached to play on Saturday Night Live?

Name: Edd

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 12:17:22

"Amos Moses" - Jerry Reed

Name: lester the mid afternoon fly
@who cares

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 12:11:00

Hey everyone well this is a big day for me, I get to meet Tommy Lee and Motley Crue! It might not mean shit to u guys but its a big deal to me. I get to be a real roadie tonight and they might let me get on the big light board! Should I ask tommy about the video with Pam! I saw it by the way it sucked, literally! Just Kidding any way I'm off: SEX DRUGS AND ROCK & ROLL! YEAH BABY!

Josie- Your gonna have to learn not to take everything I say literally! I know it might be hard to understand when I'm trying to be humorous but I was and dont worry no apology required!

Ready for some more totally easy trivia?
What song is this line from:
"u know that I've seen to many romantic dreams, up in lights fallin off the silver screen"
Hint: I've mentioned the band already in this post!

Name: Esteban V. Dan
@autumn in Berkeley

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 11:57:33

hey friggin' pr---just put up a new steely page at

it might fill your insatiable quest for 'Dan info........any more info and you'll have to contact Roger Nichols (for photo archives), Walter Becker (for sound archives) and Donald Fagen (joke archives)

btw-has anyone posted the new liner notes from the re-issue of Can't Buy A Thrill etal.....

Name: fezo

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 11:53:14

GK: I've always heard "young love". but this is from a cassette player which sometimes switches sides back and forth in the middle of songs such that i'm often treated to a very unique "Deacon Blues/Western World" mix so I could be wrong

Name: GK John

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 11:03:50

Fezo- Isn't it Dumb Love? Or are you paraphrasing?

Mimi- Double D frosted pontoons? Whoa! What a visual/mental image that conjures up!

Fly- We're cool. I can take a joke! You know what they say about people who can't!

Anyway... WW of the E isn't it either! C'mon Danfans! Someone's GOTTA know!

If that was too hard maybe this isn't...

Well the sheriff got wind of that Amos
Was in the swamp trappin' alligator skin
So he snuck in the swamp, gonna get the boy
But he never come out again
Well, I wonder where the Louisiana sheriff went to.

You can sure get lost in the Louisiana bayou...

Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch couch

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 10:35:30

Fez: Ya know, upon reflection, I'm willing to admit that it's the music that pulled me into the SD fold. Yeah, the lyrics are critical... I mean, for example, Reelin in the Years, wouldn't be right without those trademark, classic lyrics in the chorus... "Are you reelin..." However, if you put those lyrics in a song written by (insert your preferred name of a band here), the song wouldn't be mistaken as one by our boys... I guess what I'm trying to say is the music is the thing that sets Steely Dan apart from everybody else! IMHO... Oh well, that's 'nuff ranting for today...

Name: JosieDanFan
no we can't dance together, no we can't talk at all...

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 07:21:06

Hello fellow Dan fans..
Sorry to hear about Eviva's shower fiasco..maybe later?

Lester: I'm not your's to be jealous stop. I can flirt, and be friends with whomever I want. Besides, what about the girls you wanted to flirt with in front of me? Is that okay, or am I being a crazy, overly sensitive female again? And who are you to tell others if they are gay or not? Wow, I didn't know the powers that be made you boss.

David: Still waiting on the special song...I can't wait!!


Name: YGK
Location: New York, NY Baby
Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 06:29:22

OK, folks. My apologies on the Non-Dan related content, but I'm up and running at...

we accept and can effectively serve visual Artists and Photographers...


Name: fezo

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 06:22:14

my on-going 70's musical therapy has segued (thankfully) from "Animals" to "Hotel California". Much mood improvement immediately followed. First two chords of "Try and Love Again" and I was off the bridge. Damn, Meisner could sing, wish he had stuck around.

and in a more on topic GB note . . .

i figured out this morning on the drive in one of the reasons i'm so drawn to SD; it's the lyrics. there's a certain succinctness throughout--or to steal a line from "1776", a felicity of expression--that really pulls the listener in.

For example:

Let's get to the love scene my friend
Which means look, maybe touch, but beyond that not too much
Young love in the city, at century's end

Name: Schemin' Mimi
Ida's hands are the devil's workshop

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 05:51:28

Ida- First you come on here slinging your double D vocabulary like 2 frosted pontoons, hoping to win the heart of Royscam. But Roy can't be ensnarled by your voodoo, child.

Now you turn a lustful eye toward the object of my guest book affection? I don't think so, honey. I reserve Dr. Mu for my own round of linguistic lechery.

Name: The.Genius

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 04:52:10

Les: Hot L California, to which this guestbook has oten been compared.

Name: The Wicked Witch of the East
one falling house can ruin your whole day

Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 03:44:05

WW of the W: No, you melted, hon. It's me.

Name: bob tedde
Location: sd, ca
Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 at 02:16:45

R.Scam: And don't forget, "Daddy doesn't live in that New York City anymore."


Name: Ida Lee

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 23:11:48

Roy, you little devil! Mentioning my name in the same breath as two other steely goddesses is not the same as grouping Barclay, Pippen and Jordan under "Three Guys Who Won't Play in the All-Star Game This Year." Is that all I am to you? Just another pistiless stamen in a world of flora? Well, forget you, Bocephus, Dr. Mu has the adjective adoration I'm looking for.

Dangling Participle No More,


Name: !!!!!!!!!!!!LESTER THE NIGHTFLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on the wall

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 22:53:47

Roy- those were pretty good but u forgot a couple like: bearded blood sausage or spitting cobra! by the way the NBA sucks!

GK- I'm glad u can take a joke welcome!

Freak- I could stand being a millionaire

DrMu- Cool Bra' well heres another lryic:
"on a dark desert highway cool wind in my hair"
If u get this your a genius!

Name: David in the Florida Room
better late than

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 20:45:47

Eviva Laughs- when I got home from my gig I went to the party and was the last to leave....waited for you and felt so bad when I read your desperate posts...we'll do it again. I got the news..and the vibe on your upcoming nuptuals...gonna be a good thing!
Not being able to get to the party is a sign of good luck ,like a little rain on a wedding day!Uh...Just Lookin' for a silver lining Hon!
Best of luck, David

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 20:41:14

Lester: "..smoke the baloney pony.." Isn't that a mixed metaphor? I don't mean to be picky; I'm sure it's just the jet lag caused by the transformation from night fly to afternoon fly; but I believe "meat whistle", "tube steak", and "skin flute" are the preferred usages.

Joe M: Thanks for the confirmation on the Gene McDaniels / "Compared to What" thing. For a few terrifying moments there, I thought I might have been wro ... wro ... wrong.

Reason #235 to listen to Steely Dan: Better grammar. The power, prurience, irony, and wit of Becker & Fagen's lyrics aren't their only good features. They also promote respect for the King's English. Whilst other rockers are saying grammatically reckless things like "Don't Come Around Here No More" , "Ain't no mountain high enough" and "Me and you and a dog named Boo", The Dan only violate the laws of proper structure for legitimate artistically valid reasons. To wit, it was necessary, in the interest of rhyme and meter to do grammatical downgrades on the following original phrases:
"over there in Barrytown, they do things very strangely."
"she doesn't remember the Queen of soul"
"any world to which I am welcome".

Dear NBA: Good idea skipping those boring first 40 games; nobody watches them anyway. But please get your spoiled ,millionaire, getting-paid-to-have-fun, never call traveling, shooting 3 seconds after the foul, mandated man to man defense, Glamour Profession asses in gear soon or we'll remember that March Madness is more fun to watch than July Jordan.


Name: Razor Boy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 20:30:19

The Guest Book entries are all over the place - Is everyone a jumpy, impatient,irritable? Like the long awated relase is imminet or a million years away and we're all stuck in limbo. We need some inspiration from the guys who this obsessive cyber site is devoted to.

Signed, Andy Glib

Name: The Wicked Witch of the West
under the house/toes curling up

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 20:16:53

GK John: Answer to your riddle? It's me.

Ruby, Ruby [slippers], when will you be mine?


Name: not ygk
not in NY
Location: not the city,
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 20:07:37

mrdbh: your e-mail isn't working. But your site is excellent!

what does rbd stand 4?

Name: Nathan Einsig

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 14:54:00

Ahhhhh, I must agree with GK John on the subject of quoting blues tunes and Culture Club. Quoting ANY line of music does not make you a "fudge packer", it does not make you unoriginal, it is simply a musical expression. Quoting other's lines has it's roots in blues, jazz, R&B, and most tribal music. In fact it is used frequently in thses types of music. The Dan's roots are in jazz, blues and R& is as simple as that. I must add that Culture Club was a failed attemt by God to reunite Steely Dan in the 80's. If the Dan didn't get back together then God would fill the airwaves with nothing but Culture Club...I guess Walter and Donald weren't paying attention to him.

Name: Mitch
Best Wishes Eviva

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 13:56:46

ON advice :: Wise men don`t need it and fools won`t heed it.

Name: GK John

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 12:53:31

Lester- You're way off dude! Since when does quoting a blues melody make one a fudge-packer? Perhaps it is the sunlight that makes you a little slack-jawed and silly? I suppose you picked Elvis Costello right out on that criteria too? And for the most part, I find more than a few of the GBers here are models of eloquence and prose who probably agree with me that Culture Club was a bad joke on the pop culture scene, just like Milli Vanilli!

Stranger- Even better question... Why get one if you don't even ejaculate? Bill Clinton- Are you listening? I mean, if you're going to lose your job over it, at least have some fun!

Name: Freakin' Puerto Rican
you left me here on you way to paradise.

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 12:29:29

SteVie: Thanks for the answer. Just when I thought everything on the dan was covered... I havn't been here long, I never heard any mention of it.

Ole: Why am I the only one to get slammed for the "F" word? You got something against me? Please, be an equal opportunity slammer for christ's sake. Sorry, can't make it to new orleans. maybe some other time. If your ever down mexico way i'll show you around. If you truley care about human life, there is much caring to be done here. No hard feelings ok.

Does anybody really need to be worth a billion dollars?

Name: DrMu
fell out of my EASY chair - it was not my own

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 10:43:09

Lester: Chill, bra' was a tumultuous shock to my late night post-Chat nervous system to see an Andy Gibb ref. on the GB. BTW, his blood bra' Barry wrote the song for Andy so he'd quit hangin' around their concerts like a wounded puppy dog.

Roy: I'm an addled adjective addict myself

Name: information man
@stacks of plume

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 10:24:55

I meant Marquis de Sade...any other inference was purely coincidental.....

but she's no King (Carol or otherwise)

Name: TheStranger
just asking

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 10:07:51

sorry you missed your techno-shower, but i've never had success with the chat line either. what's a java anyway? wasn't he the big fat interglactic bad guy who kept carrie fisher on a leash?

now that oleander's gone for a few days, let's talk behnd her back.

rose darling,
yeah, i've got houses three blocks long staffed with concubines and stuff and sometimes i can't even remember where they all are. the houses, i mean. i don't even write this stuff. i have an internet ghost-writing data entry slave. i certainly hope all you other folks have sufficient breeding and cold cash to socialize with me. bounders are disgusting, aren't they?

now a look at important national events -- how can there be blowjobs without touching?

Name: Lester the early afternoon fly
@the house of the rising sun

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 09:49:47

Dr. Mu- what do u mean by spare a hit? Or did u mean hint? anyway it was meant to be a easy question so congratulations u were alive during the 70's.

GK- By what u wrote if your asking Who Am I? I'd say your a fag! The red shoes is what gave u away. Its ok though if your gay, I will still talk to ya, I cant speak for the rest of us in here! They all seem to have a problem with cap locks and bad spelling so I dont know if they have a problem with pillow bitters! No matter though if u smoke the boloney poney your still alright in my book! So anyway what song r those lyrics from? I'm guessing Culture Club!

JDF- Y r u hitting on other guys in here now I'm jeolous!

Lisa- Is it still dry up there?

Dave- Do u have anymore SD MIDI? I have a few that i sing along with but without Donald helping me along with the lryics I realize how shitty my singing really is!

Rose- Hows the weather in your neck of the tropics?

Name: YGK
Location: The Big, Apple
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 07:37:29

Clas: get anything in the mail recently? If not, you will....


Name: Joe M.
born@to late

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 06:49:56

Roy, "Compared to What" is in fact a Gene McDaniel number. Brian Auger, Al Jarreau and Col. Bruce Hampton also recorded it but, the Les McCann & Eddie Harris version is the comprehensive one.

Ole, After all these years I still find myself gravitating toward BOTT... a lot. It's perfect.

Name: GK John

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 06:02:35

Hey fans!
Dig this for a "Who Am I"....

Don't tell me what I do is wrong
Don't preach 'cause you don't know
I was left without a chance
Such a long time ago

Anything is better than being cut and bruised
So come on and buy me some red,
Red shoes

(Better than the Andy Gibb one anyway!)

Eviva- Good luck and God bless. It seems you've gotten a basketful of good wishes and precious advice; tenets I personally endorse, having honored my own vows for nearly 15 years. Peace!

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 05:20:59

Eviva: Best wishes. I'm aged and experienced and still have no words of illumination to present to you. I guess it's the chronic failure to understand that makes interesting.

Ruby: I've got a religious holiday coming up here real soon. Any chance I could get a half caraf of that spare time you were giving away? (Patience I've already got.)

Edd: Can you help me out with the Gene McDaniels / "Compared to What" link? I'm conjecturing on very faint memory vapors here.

Ida, Rose, Myra: Okay, I've been exposed as a word slut, led astray by Ida's provocative punctuations and alluring alliterations. And , yes, the verbage I've been getting at home is certainly satisfactory. But I claim entrapment. When you strut a tight little sentence structure and a great set of nouns in front of a guy ... when you dangle a perky participle in front of a fellow (especially a fellow whose paragraphs are getting briefer and farther apart) ... , well, I'm only human.

Love, Honor, and ... what was that last one again?,


Name: Edd
A fool's pair of dice...

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 04:56:02

> "...she's no Sade."

Ah, that explains why "Zazu" is so interesting, and why it was commercially less than successfull.

Name: Ida Lee

Date: Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 00:16:45

Roy, you little bugger--don't you toy with Ida! My xylem was phloem until you forgot the "i" before "e" rule. P-lease! Is this how you treat Myra when she wants to talk about something more relevant than your allergy to Pronecia? You forget I am the last of the lost Berberians and friend of Julie Andrews.

Now, are you going to continue to insult my intelligence or say something really profound to pull me out of this funk?

Your Windy Spore,


Name: mailbox mary
here i come

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 23:57:12

Stevie V- Thanks for the info on Rosie Vela. Did you go to a search engine, punch in Rosie Vela's name, then cut and paste what the article said on this guestbook?

Just wondering

Name: DrMu
cyberian huskie

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 20:15:10

AAHHHH!!! Andy Gibb!!!! brother can you spare a hit

Name: clas
Goud Mourning Sweden!

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 20:14:48

EVIVA, sorry you missed it! It was fun.

Going home in my sleep.

Name: DrMu

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 20:12:48

Eviva: Congrats again...sorry we missed you. You should have seen who popped out of the cake!

Name: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!LESTER THE NIGHTFLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Location: st. petersburg, fl
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 20:10:11

Well it was about 82 and partly cloudy today, haha, God I love Florida!

Trivia Time:

"If u give a little more than your asking for your love will turn the key"

What song is that line from? Hint the song was #1 for 14 weeks in a row in the late 70's!

Well I got the chat room blues!

Name: oleander
on the road again

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 20:04:37

Eviva--bummer! Missed you, girl. Let's try again.

I'm outta here for about 10 days.

Peace & goodwill.

Name: mitch
Chat city

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 20:04:05

Iwould love to add useless information to the party, but no Java ,no chat

Name: Rose Darling
@Leslie Gore was right

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 19:40:44

We're thinking of you, girl !

Name: EvivaFrowns
it was my party and I'll cry if I want to

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 19:34:46


I HATE it when I'm late to something and I hate it MORE when I can't even show up!!!!

Well, guys, I tried 35 or 40 times and I just can't access the chat. I was looking forward to this VERY much, but I guess it wasn't supposed to happen tonite. :(:(:( I even tested chat Sun nite since so many people have mentioned not being able to get in. OH WELL...[grrrrrrr tearing up little papers trying not to throttle my computer]

My apologies if anyone showed, especially Clas, who I noticed was trying to stay up--thanks guy!

David in the Florida Room: your posts aren't invisible--what a nice one! Thanks!

Ruby, Geena: Thanks for the nice gifts, ladies, you are sweeties!

See y'all soon--please don't pummel me as I tried to show!


Name: EvivaLaughs
still can't get into chat!!!!

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 19:07:26

This is MORE THAN FRUSTRATING!! Geena, can I open your patience box before my wedding :(!!

Name: Michael C. Packard
Location: Cool Night In The Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 19:07:10

Howdy DanFanGangLand!!!!

Trying to find y'all and access the ParaChat for the party----will keep on trying----" . . .they call Alabama the Crimson Tide . . ."


; )

Name: EvivaLaughs

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 18:54:54

Still trying to access chat...:(!!

Name: EvivaLaughs

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 18:44:28

Yo! Can't get into chat! Whazzup wit dat?
I'll try again....

@9:35 P.M. EASTERN

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 18:37:40

Countdown to Ecstasy... 25 minutes.


Clas, keep trying, man...

Name: clas
Rosemarys Baby

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 18:33:28

geena, my computer crashed, had to reload back to the chatroom, you weren't there.

Mayor Rudy, it's called the Dakota Apartments.

Name: Mayor Rudy
The Dakota Bld.
Location: N.Y NY,
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 18:18:14

Yes us New Yorkers our sad Lennon was killed in our City. We are even more angry about the traffic , in front of the Dakota Bldg. (where Lennon lived and died) the place is now a shrine. I wish it would have happened in say Paris, where Morrison is buried.

Name: Mayor Rudy
The Dakota Bldg.

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 18:03:29

Yes it was unfortunate that John Lennon was killed, very unfortunate for us New Yorkers. The tourists coming out of Central Park heading to the The Dakota ( building where Lennon lived) has the traffic snarled and is now a shrine. I just wish it happened in Paris , so he could have shared some of the spotlight with Jim Morrison and tied up their traffic.

Name: Geena

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 17:59:55

Eviva: I stopped by to check out the chat and after a few tries, finally figured out how to get in. Then I realized I was too early, DUH!!! so I'll try to come back later. In following RubyBaby's footsteps, I'm leaving a little package for you outside the door. Inside are 3 ingredients you'll need for the recipe marriage. You already have love and Ruby has given you time, you'll also need what's in the first package which is patience, it's difficult to figure out the right amount at first, but once you've got it down, it becomes pungent, sweet and flavorful, use generous amounts of this. The second is understanding, it must be used with patience, sprinkle this all over everything and you'll never be unhappy. The third is trust, a little of this goes a long way. Use it everyday. Once you've put them all together, you'll have the recipe for a long lasting and loving marriage. Peace be with the both of you always.

Name: Mitch
Rock n Roll Hoochie Coo

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 17:49:23

Rose Darling: Rick Deringer played with the Albino Winter Brothers. Try Edgar Winter and White Trash Live and if you think that is bridge jumping music too, well go ahead and leap.

Name: clas

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 17:25:22

geena, can you read me in the chatroom?

Name: clas
@ homegoing

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 17:18:50

EVIVA, I've must be here on the wrong time. There's no one in the chatroom. Must go home and sleep. But, my best wishes for you and your love. Stand the hard times and enjoy the good times.


Name: rb
i c@n't drive 55!

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 16:56:55

Eviva: I can't come to the party (I must go to a rehearsal thing - dang!) But I'll give you your virtual present now.

When you open the box, you won't see anything but the tissue paper I carefully placed into it. Violet & cream looks pretty, huh? Well, believe it or not, this box contains Spare Time. Newly wed couples can never have enough of this. Just keep this box within reach. Take some out whenever you wish. Use it wisely, though. Never use it when you're arguing. But it's great to have when you're making up! You'll get the hang of it...

Love & Peace to you both!


Name: Steve V O'Lennon
@10:50 pm

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 16:26:25

almost forgot:

John L.: we lost you 18 years ago.......

but you still live in our hearts.......starting over we all are
waiting for this new century to start.....we glance back to that dark New York Night......and hope for just one moment you'll return alive to our sight..........

side bar (anecdote)- WABC-AM was playing 'Hey 19' right when John Lennon was assassinated 12/8/80....10:50 pm.........

18 years! jeez time flies!

Name: clas
@ work, waiting for a party

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 15:47:26

Rose D, and you're telling me that now! "Trying to make that party...". Do you know what time it is in Stockholm at this time?

Name: Steve V
@Bay Area Blackout (or y2k test city)

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 15:43:52

Narasota- was a Texas band produced by Gary Katz.....they recorded an album in 1972 and Gary enlisted Donald And Walter to help out on the sessions.....they even wrote one song , 'Canyon Ladies'....their album 'Rootin' was released the same day as 'Can't Buy A Thrill'.....

I hereby nominate them for the Hall of Fame!

Rosie Vela- a model turned singer, she recorded a Gary katz produced album for A&M Records in 1986, both Fagen and Becker (and Rick Derringer) played on the album...the album was mildly interesting....but she's no Sade!...............

back to woik.....amid a y2k simulated meltdown........

Name: Rose Darling
@footloose and fancy free

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 15:34:23

You done got me chucklin' here, man. Brandishing your unapologetic capitalism like that gets me laughing. Things get way too serious around here sometimes.
P.S. You weren't serious were you, about the vulgar wealth?

Not trying to accelerate your disenchantment or anything, but for real bridge jumping music, ever listen to Rick Derringer's song "Jump" ? Well, it is a bit teenybopper. Just a thought.

GKJohn = Good King John? Best New Nick of the GB Award to that one fer sure.

Invidious invectives and turgid tangents? What alluring alliterations, my doctor dear.

Schwinn: What's a free Furby?

Roy Scam:
Maybe ida know what I'm talking about, but are you sure you want to be spoiling a good thing with Myra for a mere protein exchange with Ida? Are you so easily wooed with words, sir?

Gonna try to make the party but I can't promise... have fun.

Name: Freakin' Puerto Rican
Screen door slams, Mary's dress waves...
Location: like a vision she dances across the porch as the radio plays,
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 14:20:53

Edd/Anyone: Tell me about Donald and Navasota, and Rosie Vela.

Name: DrMu
all a rondo mulberry bush

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 13:37:57

TWM has maybe my all-time favorite line-ups:
Chuck Rainey - bass
Steve Gadd - drums
Mr. Steve Khan - acoustic/electric guitar:
Larry Carlton - guitar solo
Joe Sample - electric piano
Rob Mounsey - synth

Name: Edd

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 13:31:04

Nyet. T'weren't him.

Will Lee does a pretty cool cover of "My Funny Valentine" on his album "Oh!"...

Name: Mug Man
who loves ya baby

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 13:03:16

Ed- I think Will Lee also played on "Third World Man" I'm shocked you missed that one Ed!

Name: DrMu
green world

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 09:38:15

Edd/David: I think that would be "True Companion" with Steve Khan and former Letterman band-mate & drummer Steve Jordan (he looks lately to have the same chef as Michael McDonald) who also played on "...Raindrops."

Name: David in the Florida Room

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 09:27:30

EDD,Thank you are correct! I was starting to think my posts were invisable....David

Name: Edd

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 08:11:58

Will Lee's Steely Dan connection is less tenuous than previously stated. He played on Donald's "Nightfly" album (I believe that's him on 'Walk Between The Raindrops')...

He also played on one of the non-album tunes on "Gold"...

Name: David in the Florida Room

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 07:06:14

Hey Clas,that Bass Player is Will Lee....and his Steely Dan Connection is being a former player in the Brecker Brothers Band,with Don Grolnick (keys) and sometimes Peter Erskine (drums) Steve Kahn (guitar). Out Of tune Bass? It's Possible but not likely...check your TV.LOL By the Way, Will Lee is a Monster Bass Player....David

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 06:47:47

Ida Lee,
I would be indicted to merge protiens with you; in fact, I would be extradicted. Based on your cunning use of linguistics, I sense that you and I share a certain avoir dupois, if you know what I mean. Your liturgy is like the poultry of Berline and Rambo. Please send me a picture so that I may baste in your photosynthesis. I'm sure you virtually eradicate with omnivorousness.

Synergistically yours,


Name: Clas
@ work
Location: testing the, paraquat test kit
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 05:20:24

Envy, envy envy... I don't know. But when I look out from my window and see this damn snow, I know I'd rather be in Louisiana. With a drivers licence...

Slimmy, you damned flesh-peddler - didn't you hear what my dear friend mr Gaucho said? -Go back to your five dollar trailer that's parked on your hinterlands and eat shit. You don't have to worry about me, I'm just a parlor pink.

ANOTHER thing, I sat last night with my son (yes I mention him a lot here, but what the fuck) and listened to "What a fool believes" as we were reading the sheetmusic. It's amazing how that song is done. It's like those stairs with the walking monks, you don't know if they're going down or going upstairs.

The song begins with the chord C# add F# while the bass is playing G# and after the verse, bridge and refrain they're landing on an A. And going from A to C#add F#/G# is just a killer. Outstanding.

So, got to go home now and take a nap so I can be with you and celebrate Eviva's birthday. See you tonight!

PS watched Letterman last night. Who is this guy who play's the bass in The CBS Orchestra and why is no one telling him to tune his instrument?

Name: Schwinn
err, uh, I'll get back with you...

Date: Tuesday, December 8, 1998 at 00:37:59

Wow! Just dropped by for a little light reading and now my warm milk is sour.

Please post your mailing addresses and I will send each and every one of you an elusive "Furby" that is sure to make your Christmas complete. Imagine, a free Furby! That's how much I care about my Steely pals. "For seven seconds it's like Christmas Day!"

Those of you who responded to my "Tickle Me Elmo" offer last December know what I mean--and you can bet I'll be checking my list twice to see who's most likely to fire off this year's flare.

The Things We Do for Love,


Name: TheStranger
this brother is free

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 23:36:39

sorry if i misjudged you. i guess i thought you got pissed at u.s. ties to pinochet with a sandinista kind of venom. i was no doubt too quick to stereotype. most political discussions are so simplistic, i guess that's all i ever expect.

on holiday blues--
these complexities of modern life are getting the best of me. maybe get back to sex, drugs, and rock n roll? not a bad political anthem. but then what do i know? hey, somebody peel me a grape.

it's really important that you never smoke again. it will give you a much improved life. do it for the stranger. next time you feel the urge to smoke, just make life more miserable for your already hideously exploited third world servants instead. it works great.

Name: Ida Lee

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 22:33:38

Oh Roy, when you post like that it sends government issue chills up my gun-metal spine! How I would love to merge effervescent proteins with you on the lace of this delicate planet--to assure our nucleic acids will forever deoxy to the whim of your proxies!

Go Me One More?


Name: oleander
what's not to like?

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 22:18:07

Seriously, this GB is a perfect example of all that's right with this country. It's all over the place, playful, pissed off, irreverent, smartass, full of invidious invective and turgid tangents in various languages and cultures, hurled by a bunch of total strangers who are stuck on the weirdest rock band ever.

Ha! From PMS to the holiday spirit in a single bound!

Roy, fezo, Stranger, you guys slay me. Gene McDaniel??

Jokah--Nevermind. I dug your story. This is an ambivalent culture.

Geena girlfriend--Sorry, my intention was not to assume. My point was that nearly all of us are doing better than our parents' generation, and people who are thriving tend either to ignore those less fortunate, become wannabe dispossessed, look down on them and expect them to be just like they are, or work to change things. And there are a zillion ways to change things, from painting to making music to writing to mindbending discourse to just being you to.... As for sitting down--Jazz/Danfest? Hm?

Cepper darlin'--It's time to develop the Sissy Hankshaw Scrolling Thumb. We are NOT friends. This is a crabby, contentious, intolerant family. Oops, excuse me, I'm not speaking for anyone else.

Joe--I was listening to "Idiot Wind" as I read your post. He's the man. While I don't agree with everything in "Compared to What," I dig it the most. Should've known you'd be on that tip.

Stranger--why do you assume I'm a Fidelista?

Does everybody come home for the holidays? El Sup (still in Louavul?), Doc K, stevev, Herm.... Want some hors d'oeuvres?

Slim--I have inadvertently exposed to you one of my (few) humorless flashpoints. Thanx for your even-tempered response. I wouldn't put it exactly as Clas did, but that's approximately the point.

Ladies--See you tomorrow nite. Let's show these guys how to party.

Name: Roy.Scam''

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 20:46:49

The local classic rock station has a game called The Elevator From Hell, wherein they play elevator music versions of classics and the listeners try to identify them. Today's selection was a deliciously cheesy version of "Reelin' In the Years". It was quite worse than the Food Lion and Macdonald's versions of SD songs. It had a lot of Schmenge-Brothers-like horns that made it sound a bit like "Penny Lane" except terrible. It took me till "..the weekends at the college.." to recognize it.

just a girl-- I like to think that Steely Dan and The Who are above politics, and only mention them for the purpose of ridicule, [" social crisis; just another tricky day.."] although I could be wrong. The most flagrantly political statement on the part of the Who was when Pete Townsend cold cocked Abby Hoffman for trying to upstage him at Woodstock.

-- But Marvin Gaye made a couple of records that would have been great political speeches.

Rock and Roll Christmas albums? : I still like the Jackson Five's best. Their "Up On the Housetop" kicks ass.

Good King John: Please keep me aprised of any Sanford Townsend sightings. What with all this reminiscing, I'm almost willing to try fucking with the Devil's turntable again. It's a 33 SPM (skips per minute) Girard with Best-Song-Seek-and- Scratch Capability.

Joe M.--Was not the great Gene McDaniel (100 Pounds of Clay) the originator of the vocal version of "Compared To What" ?


Name: Schemin' Mimi
loop de loop

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 20:18:06

Slimmy, be nice or I'll have to apply the genital cuff again.

Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch practice room

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 20:17:59

'sapnin? Been awhile... gone from the GB for almost 4 weeks... I'm sure you all know what a chore it would be to actually read that much to catch up!!!

Maj: try PEG next! It's a quantum step up in difficulty... IMHO...

Name: Go Slimmy!
Clas' sour

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 20:14:29

The U.S. is the worst country in the world to live in--except for all the others.

Name: Slimmy, Son of Sweden
Hail, Hail Freedonia

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 19:51:29

Fezo: Interesting thing about Pink Floyd's "Animals", if you own a dog stick the CD on and watch their reaction to the "barks". They know exactly where the real dogs end and the synthesized dogs begin.

Speaking of dogs, Clas's reference to me as a "retarted (sp) fuckhead" is the best argument yet against socialism. I am not a legislator and am only relaying the law as I know it. Yes, zero tolerance is a great deterrent, but how can we deter a drunken idiot from slandering the innocent when his vehicle, (the internet), has no such laws in place?

I suggest Mr. Clas is far more envious of a country where he can get a license than he admits.



Name: JosieDanFan
Who are these children who scheme and run wild?

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 18:43:38

hello fellow dan fans..
The cure for the holiday blues...I don't really have one due to the fact that in my house, every one seems to be in the holiday mood, so I just kinda play along. But when I find myself really slipping into that yuletide funk, I play some great Christmas music like Manhattan Transfers *Christmas Album* or some Stan Kenton Christmas. Now that's some serious christmas prozac for me. What's really bad about the Christmas depression (at least for me) is I feel I have no reason to be. I have most of my more cherished family members around me, I'm not poor or why am I bummed?
Cepper: I will e-mail you soon. And thanks.. :o)

Eviva: I can't make it to the shower. I wanted to wish you the best of luck and have fun tomorrow night!!! Congratulations!!

Herm: Glad to see you again...missed ya. Sorry to hear about the lawsuits. That's gotta suck. I'll be a character witness for you though.

see you all later..

Name: Babs Knows Who
Parallel Lines

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 16:49:23


Hello, It's Me.
I went to the mirror, and said, "Who's that man?" Breathless, I saw the light. The cold morning light. My torch song was mere useless begging in never never land. Sometimes I don't know what to feel, I get out of control, and become cliche. Believe in me. Hope I didn't hurt yourself.

You are wonderful, and I hope your wishes all come true.

Name: Babs Knows Who
Parallel Lines

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 16:49:08


Hello, It's Me.
I went to the mirror, and said, "Who's that man?" Breathless, I saw the light. The cold morning light. My torch song was mere useless begging in never never land. Sometimes I don't know what to feel, I get out of control, and become cliche. Believe in me. Hope I didn't hurt yourself.

You are wonderful, and I hope your wishes all come true.

Name: fezo

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 16:40:27

the holiday funk has so overtaken me i've put on the ultimate in jump off the bridge albums, Pink Floyd's "Animals". Talk about a life affirmer. I can not think of a more depressing disc as well an album concept. Let's consign the whole human race to animal status. Where's an editor when you need one?

which in turn makes me wonder if there is such a role in record production. what if Walter and Donald wrote enough material for a two disc collection about bee pollination? is there anybody who would say (and be listened to) guys, need a slightly more accessible concept there

speaking of accessible . . . what's the deal on the chat room? i haven't been able to get in for at least a month

back to the sheep version of The Lord's Prayer


Name: Sociable Hermit
Wondering Where To Hang The Misltoe

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 16:33:03

Ill will
Name calling

Guess I haven't missed much.
Glad I'm still in my cave.

P.S. Sponsored a Wet T-shirt contest last winter in order to break up the monotony of winter. Sadly, four of the five contestants were striken with hypothermia.
Damn cold in the forest.
The survivor won by default, as the rules stipulated that you attend the award ceremony. She was very happy. I wasn't, though. Three weeks later I was named as the defendant in four seperate lawsuits. Had to move to a more remote cave. Just goes to show you, everyone has a different definition of fun.


Name: just a girl
in the world

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 14:58:19

joker: Nice snapshot!! Actually, you gave us a peek into your photo album. I like it.

The only political music I like is Steely Dan, Bob Dylan, and The Who. And Steely Dan is different, because they wove the lyrics carefully. I can ignore the politics if I want and just enjoy.

Thank you, Donald Fagen and Walter Becker.

Name: GK John

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 10:52:40

Geena- Thanks for the welcome. I'll leave the vulcanized rubber thermasuit home for now... I've got pretty thick skin. And sense enough to stay out of the way when the epithets start flying.

Roy- Sanford-Townsend Lives! Get this... I caught this show back in '78 or '79 (I can't recall the year)..... Sanford-Townsend, Heart & Dave Mason @ the Nassau Coliseum when all 3 bands had a new release getting radio play.

Fezo- 2 Doobies and 1 CCR? I would have guessed Little Feat. God knows they've had just about everyone else guesting at one time or another.

GBLS & Oleander- Thanks for the tips

Raise up your glass to

GK John

Name: TheStranger
laughing chance

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 10:29:54

this has been explained many times before, but here goes. this guestbook is for Steely Dan fans who are moved by the Dan sound and credo -- a distinctive, creative, hip blend of thought and artistry. partly because, as you may have noticed, the Dan is not exactly putting out a new album every six months, we do not limit our cyber discussion to the Dan. were that the case, by this time we would be down to trying to figure out whether the drummer changed sticks between a certain couple of numbers in kansas city in 1979 and that is BORING, get it? if you want boring, go down the street to the john cougar guestbook.

don't smoke.

also, i see people have been moved by our international critics into telling the story of their lives to prove they weren't born with a silver cell phone on their ear. don't be silly. personally i was born into immense, vulgar wealth with servants peeling my grapes from the very beginning. there's nothing i like better than to smuggle in a new batch of half-starved third world immigrants for my chain of revolting factories, exploit the hell out of them and then kick their asses back to garbanza after they're burned out from merciless, exploitive, 18-hour workdays. but that's another story.

Name: Michael C. Packard
Location: Cool & Sunny Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 10:13:49

Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!!

Come-to-think-of-it, and trying to put some closure on this social economic political discussion----I don't recall Fagen or Becker singing, " . . .you're not my Hilda, you're not my Olga, etc."



P.S.: I do believe it is Sverige, right Clas??

Name: Cepper

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 08:46:55

I tried my best to avoid this whole discussion, but seeing as it has taken over the whole board, I guess I should put my two cents in.
Someone made the point about young Americans not even being able to point out your countries on a map. You're right. I'm a 23 year old Magna Cum Laude college graduate from the USofA and I DON'T know the difference between Sweden, Finland, and Norway. I'm not the least bit ashamed to admit that, because it doesn't concern me. I've got everything I'll ever need right here in this great country of mine.
If our government wants to meddle in the affairs of foreign counties, and you have a problem with that, then take it up with a senator, or on a political bulletin board. I mean no disrespect to anyone's opinions, but this a Steely Dan fan Guest Book for ChristSakes!

To put it another way, "Take it outside!".

All I wanted to do was come here on a slow Monday morning at work and flirt with Josie and I have to be bombarded with political commentary. Sheesh!

I don't know if it's sacrilege to quote non SD songs here, but to take a page from War's book, "Why can't WE be friends, why can't WE be friends? Why can't we be friends....

And Josie, (if you made it through all that blabber) I'm kinda shy, you go first -> Good choice of ISP by the way :-)

Name: Joe M.

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 07:49:21

Ole: "listen to some good political music, like Les McCann & Eddie Harris," etc...

I'm assuming this is an oblique reference to "Swiss Movement" or more specifically "Compared to What" which I mention simply because it's a favorite hip commentary on the state of things (as well as being a smokin' vehicle for Mr. Harris' bluesy horn playing). Somebody's listening.

How about Dylan?

Name: the JokeR

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 07:15:47

sheesh, what a'd think mercury was still in retrograde, looking at the posts (is it still?]

- CLAS, GAUCHO, etc: I was gonna say something about socialism, Chile, Latin US, but I'll spare you the indignity of speaking on something I know nothing fact, studies show that quite a lot of U.S. high schoolers couldn't find your home countries on a globe.

"Kids these days....."

Heres a snapshot of a SD fan's life, make of it what you will: born/raised in the middle of the U.S. | like others in that part of the country, German/Scandanavian immigrants came over, settled in mid-1800s | mother was nurse, dad was lab technician (skill acquired from 'Nam) biggest hardship of life was divorce of parents in '75 | lived in middle-class neighborhood, went to ethnically-diverse schools | studied, got good grades, no financial help going into college (2nd biggest hardship) | didn't capitalize on certain scholarship requirements, got enough loans to complete degree | moved into apartment with little left in bank | busted ass, got a crappy job, paid bills | got married, wife works freelance | got better jobs, now pay house mortgage | etc. etc. etc.

who knows how much of success depended on race/social status/religious influence -- you'd have to ask the folks who let me in, kept me out. i'm just a slob who's trying to get into painting again in less than 3 weeks, so i can give creative presents for Xmas.

is it my SOCIAL OBLIGATION to keep on current events in the world, if i'm too busy trying to make sure my new house doesn't fall on me? Does this make me stupid for not looking into my government's international actions, when in reality, i have neither the immediate power nor the time to do much about it? I can vote for the right representative every 2-6 years, how's that? because if i want to keep on keeping on, that's all the time i have for the U.S. gov't. well, that, and paying taxes. I turn the channel when i see the starving child because i can't stand the huckster trying to shame me into giving less than a dollar a day to "help" this poor little girl, when i want to be convinced that it WOULD actually help her..........

listen, if i had a stock option every time i heard someone bad-mouth this country.....i don't like it much either, but the weather's good, the water is tasty, and i get to surf the net at work. A lot of this is probably due to the fact that i was here from the beginning, but i did have to work for most of it. [i'd like to think some of it is due to my good looks, but we'd have to go to the judges for that call......} I like to hear what you have to complain about with this nation, and you're probably right. Just don't expect me to feel guilty about what the CIA is doing or what our consumerism is doing the globe. I recycle, I'm pretty stingy with my money. I do what i can. i like to think i do more than others but can't be sure.

at least i know where Sweden is.

JOKER [heh heh}

Name: ygk
Location: State of Pani, c
Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 06:32:13

i'm looking at it right now - the server hasn't loaded


I'm told it will tonight....

check it out above if you can...


Name: clas
YGK, I was going to see
Location: some, contemporary art
Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 06:27:55

but I can't seem to get to it with the address you wrote a couple of blocks down here a while ago. Will you please try again?

Name: Clas
@ work, not working for the moment

Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 06:15:10

SLIMMY; the point is, you retarded fuckhead, that a zerotolerance for alcohol in traffic is preventive. And no, I don't have and have never had any licence. I'm an old alcoholized hippie, what do you expect?

Ruby; thanx, you understand.

Rose Darling; thanx Rose, that was very kind of you to say so.

Party Thrower; I'll be there. But for me it's the dec 9. And 1 .00 AM.

GEENA; we ARE friends. Maybe it's stupid to discuss serious things here, you can't see the other persons smile, or bodylanguage or hear his/hers tone. But for me, we are friends.

And tell me, how the hell do you spell "discuss"? Disscus?

Name: oops
Location: nyc,
Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 06:05:53

Name: YGK
Location: NYC,
Date: Monday, December 7, 1998 at 06:04:46

Geena: cool I didn't know.

anyway, until the server lists it correctly
try this....


Name: El Supremo

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 20:10:03

If anyone is interested in hearing a nice cover band play our beloved SD music, go to:

This is the homepage for the band "Naked Lunch" and a 2-hour show from September is archived there.

Until we get the real thing...

Name: Slimmy

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 18:52:10


If some drunken idiot runs a stop sign and kills people he'll probably at least be charged with vehicular manslaughter in this country. Second degree murder isn't out of the question either.

I don't recall my post mentioning anything about vehicular homicide and I certainly wasn't condoning drunk driving. What's your point?


Name: maj©

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 18:14:16

Can someone please confirm that the sd chat is working for you. It's not for me. Just tried again, like last Sunday night.

Oh well.

Finally nailed the bass line for Chain. You hear that Lucky Henry?? The full fucking song, for a change.!!

"...turn slowly and comb your hair..."


Name: RubyBaby

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 16:45:09

Stranger: How I beat the holiday blues: I smile at people who least expect it. It instantly brightens the moment for each of us.
(Don't knock it till you try it)

I'm listening to y'alls' political banter. Very interesting. All in all, I think each of you has valid points. Clas, though, seems to have the most objective viewpoint in general. I can say this because I am reading beneath the surface. This is a man who can love America even when he hates it. I'll see you in The Big Easy, abbaBaby.

Geena: It's families like yours that have contributed to the good of our country. I'm glad you came over.

Jack of Speed: That was beautiful! I'd like to follow you around for a week.

Schwinn: I didn't know I was brazen. I was just being me. How long were you peering down thru the skylight? I think I could fantasize about this...


Name: David in the Florida Room

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 15:32:44

Eviva Laughs, My sincerest apologies for not being able to attend the Shower-fest scheduled for December 8th.( At least I think I was Invited ) It is a busy time of year and I am contractually obligated to perform at a christmas party/golf award ceremony at a Vanilla Flavored country club here in Florida.Boring yes, but thankfully high paying... Please accept my Humble apology......I'll make it up to you ..I swear...can I sing you a song and send you an Mp3 file of it? Let me Know. As one of the fine Ladies here on the GB I have great respect for you and wish you all the best. Have fun at the party...but go easy on the cyber-punch.

Your fellow Dan Fan,David

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 13:45:29


All members and crashers of this GB are hereby invited to attend:



LOCATION: The Yak, Yak, Yak, Steely Dan Chat Room (you know how to get there, see top of page if you don't !)

DATE: December 8, 1998

TIME: 10 P.M. Eastern Time (all of you in other time zones, figure it out !)

DRESS CODE: Formal asbestos thermasuit attire suggested but not mandatory.

R.S.V.P. aw hell just be there !

Gifts voluntary, but the gift of gab obligatory !

Name: Rose Darling

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 13:06:04

You Collective Darlings, I've been offline more than a week and busy as hell but am now sitting here catching up on posts. I'm suffering through a winter cold and while coughing and wheezing and feeling a touch of malaise, I'm thinking to myself after reading some of these irascible, argumentative posts, that's it, Rose is firing up the Philosophy Blowtorch (with calming estrogen spray side effects) now. Ready, aim, fire...

El Gaucho:
Who died and made you Critic of the Human Race? You think you know everything and that gives you the right to hammer and invalidate every one else's point of view? It's people with your bulldozer mentality that help drive the masses into materialism, consumerism, complacency, self absorption, and all the negative forces in the world you so love to bash. No wonder people choose numbness over doing anything to change things. You think your ragings are waking people up but the pesticide force you use helps perpetuate the misery people inveterately want to escape. I seriously doubt you're doing a damn thing to change anything you've attacked except by trying to get under others' skin. Armchair warrior you are...take a humility chill pill.
P.S. You can slither back under the same rock with Kinky now...
P.M.S. Don't make me lose my normally polite composure again.

Ungrateful: "You can't condemn all of the people for the actions of some." Amen.

Geena: Sincere and hopeful that you are, don't let those lacking in those qualities try to erode them in you.

Midnite Cruiser: Congrats to you on your engagement ! What "ring" did you give her, the Decoder ring?

Eviva: Thanks for noticing my absence ! I'm sending you an e !

Stranger: I'm still trying to figure this out, what IS a grovularian?

Clas: Beautiful little post about your honey back on Nov. 30th.

Lester: I'm not into much metal. Unless you consider Deep Purple and Rainbow "heavy" enough.

Name: TheStranger
down in the bottom

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 12:52:13

hey, i don't mind foreigners dissing america for supporting pinochet & slaughtering occasional masses of third worlders -- cause that's our job. but clas, LAY OFF TV, MAN. you can't fuck with people's relgion.

listen boys & girls, this GB is really on edge, but it's getting interesting again. for a while i was ready to give up on it. i think what's going on is HOLIDAY DEPRESSION. geena, holiday depression plus nicotine withdrawal is like mixing nitro with glicerine. you're ready to pop & no wonder. i also quit after a bout with bronchitis.

(this paragraph is on how to quit smoking so you may wish to skip it) here's how to quit cigs. 1. don't smoke. 2. enjoy the pain. the pain is informing you of your success. the pain and anguish subside. inside of a week all nicotine is out of your system, so now it's all in your head. no more physical addiction. you can beat your own mind.

say, gaucho, clas, i've lived overseas, seen 3rd world poverty up close. so you get pissed at america for shipping all our bullshit tv idiocy overseas. but we also export steely dan & the cure for polio, right? you 2 guys are on the net & i imagine doing ok, so when you get guilty about your own relative affluence, go ahead, blame uncle sam. we're used to it.

most of the same haters who gripe about pinochet (who is, i agree, a scum) don't mind fidel castro, who has also jailed and killed people for their beliefs. it's lefty-righty bullshit. an asshole is an asshole, whether he's left, right, black, white.

how to get through the holiday blues--i don't know. got 'em myself today. anybody got any ideas?

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 11:04:50

On the subject of tenure of artistic excellence: I agree in part that some artists just use up their good ideas and don't replenish. e.g. Jim Morrison who had some good stuff but wouldn't get out of the spotlight when his creative wad had been spewed (how's that for Morrison-like imagery?). --- But to whomever said that Bob Dylan's 'creative period' didn't start till "Blonde on Blonde" , I say, 'Wrong again tambourine breath.' You just dismissed the entire Highway 61 album as well as some of the greatest folk troubador stuff ever written such as Don't Think Twice, Blowin', and With God on Our Side. I will agree that he got kind of musically and philosophically weak after Blood on the Tracks.
As for Steely Dan: Kama and 11 TOW were different from the glory days stuff, but nonetheless brilliant. In fact, 11TOW opened a whole new area of SD appreciation for me. Very few Steely songs were as emotionally intense as Down In the Bottom.
Anyway, Shakespeare had 20 great years without a hiatus or even a rewrite, so don't give up on the really great ones.

No, I didn't quit smoking recently, but I haven't had the opportunity to bomb any brown people in a long time. That's why I'm grouchy, but I can't speak for everyone.

Steve V: Great pitch for the I Remember Steely movie. It's money. I'm on it. But who can we get to do the soundtrack?


Name: Steve V. Dan
just checking in kids

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 10:31:20

heys kids.....happy St. Nicholas Day (that's Christmas in Holland).....well I guess 10 months or so from now we may have something new to talk about and listen to.......but in the mean time.....we can bitch and moan and wallow in nostalgia....

Steely Dan moment: circa May 1981-----
place: AM radio station on Long Island
in the dj booth---I was a dj in training and fortunately the dj I was working with (Alan Duke, a Walter Becker look-a-like) was a 'Dan freak....suddenly as a typical AM single fades out (Elton John or something) he segues into 'The Fez'!.....near the end of the song I notice him q-ing up another Steely Dan album....

"What are you doing? Playing two 'Dan tracks"?" dj in training says...."No- I'm making 'The Fez' 8 minutes long!"

He proceeds to expertly mix 2 copies of 'The Fez' into an 8 minute monophonic re-mix....sort of like when those dj's mix "AM " on to "FM" on the air!.....later when I was rummaging through the stations record library (WNYG)...I noticed the letters GFS scribbled next to 'Time Out of Mind' on the Gaucho jacket....."What does this mean G-F-S?...some sort of radio code?" says dj in training.....

"No man- that's a dj code: 'GREAT FUCKING SONG'!"

true story- cool station.....c.1998 from the forth coming Tom Hanks film: "I remember Steely Dan" Universal Pictures

Name: Geena
Again and then it's over!

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 09:01:27

JosieDanFan: Nothing to be sorry about, I don't believe I ever agreed with the media making a big deal out of the Clinton scandal. I think it's stupid too, but how do you shut them up?
Clas: I thought you were my friend?
Eviva: I'm doing very well, the fits diminished days ago.
Ole: No, the nicotine delirium is over. I have no plans to start smoking again, not when I've had bronchitis 4 times this year.
My family is no different than those families that come here today. They still have a constant struggle, they still work hard. We never lived a comfortable life, and I never really reaped the benefits of their struggles. I went out on my own at 18 and put myself through school and made it on my own, no help from them. Please understand that people should stop assuming they know how someone else's life is or was. That's being judgemental. I wouldn't want to be those things that Gaucho said I am for all the money in the world. I don't have much, but at least I'm happy. Everyday is a struggle for me, but I'm not complaining about it, that's wasting time and energy. I just do the best I can. And I've walked in your patients shoes, I'm not saying it's easy to make your own opportunities, but I know I try. I know racism only too well and poverty has been with me many, many, many times, I wasn't allowed to use social services, and let's not get into illnesses. Try finding a doctor office who doesn't treat you like shit or tells you there's nothing wrong with you because you have no insurance or money to pay for the services. Only with the grace of God do I keep my sanity.
Ole, not really a rant girlfriend, just would like for you to understand that you can't assume you know what another person has been through without sitting down with them.

Name: Clas
@ work, capitalissimo work...

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 07:09:52


Why are you so edgy lately? I'm, sorry that you feel the way you do about the US, but I for one would rather live here than anywhere else in the world. I can't understand how you can judge the US from just visiting?"

- Are you joking with me? "Just visiting"? You yankees knows everything about every country on earth but you can't pronunce their names, and most of you people have never been abroad. And if you read my posts closer you will see that my feelings for USA are very mixed. Love and hate, a thin line.

Do you know anything about Sweden? I mean, we've emailed a lot, but did you look up Sweden and read about it, did you show some interest? Can you locate Sweden or Bolivia on the map?

Name: EvivaLaughs
careening into the holidays

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 06:59:27

Sheesh! Wall-to-wall fights! Did everyone quit smoking the last couple weeks?
WHERE IS ROSE the D? your absence is conspicuous, darlin' :)!
Geena: Good for you on quitting...Hope you're doing well!
ALL: Great stories on "how I met my honey!" Fun reading! Speaking of which:
Ruby: OK, that does it. You never get to claim you have a boring life ever again!
Midnite Cruiser: Wow! Congrats on your engagement! sometimes I WISH we were eloping...but naah, I want the big day! All those details'll crawl you, though! :)
oleander, PJ, Gaucho, etc.: I've been working at an inner-city clinic for several years and know most of our patients; some of them are extremely low income and dealing with "the system" and trying to raise children, many times alone (bio-dad took off, more times than not!), with very few resources does tend to beat you down and make you lose hope that things will ever be better. (Especially with the crappy disgraceful way I've seen our local social services deal with these people, though I suspect that's a nationwide thing.)
Fezo and Political Junkie are right about the free will thing, and lots of people in the U.S. get to "make it" but some just never get that chance. So Clas is right on that: it's our responsibility to try to help as many as possible get that chance.
Dunno about all on the GB, but my family of 7 grew up lower middle class and got the work ethic big-time, Dad was around, we were raised right, got the moral values and all that, so even though we didn't have lots of money we had LOTS. Josh had a similar upbringing. So we feel like we're supposed to give back a little bit. Which is one reason I'm in the job I'm in (till the kids come along, anyway, God willing :)!!!) And Gaucho (or is it Groucho): how come you wanna stereotype us? We're all rich debt-laden yuppies who ignore the poor? I don't think so!
Whoops-end of political polemic--gotta go! C-ya! :)

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 06:56:50

Ole; sure, I'm okay (I guess you're asking if I am drinking again, no, I'm not).

And, I'm just a little pissed for the moment over this stupid world.

When I see a TV-show where they dressup white/black "trash" in expensive suits, gives them an air-ticket to a fancy hotel and then they are humiliated in The Ricki Lake Show, that makes me wanne throw up.

Fuckhead; for christ sake, Sweden is not socialistic, our party is the Socialdemocrats, is that so hard to understand?

Gaucho; I wish I had your ability to explain things. Damm.

Name: Jack O'Speed
@the front of the stage

Date: Sunday, December 6, 1998 at 03:39:10
Comments: I delicately kiss a long stem rose, I knelt down on
one knee, my face smiling, head bowed, my sword still at
my side...I gently set this on the stage. This is for Tom,
Wayne, Cornelius, Ari, Michelle, Carolynn, John, Ricky,
Michael, Libby, Elinor, Roger, Walter, and Donald. One more
thing, I left a four leaf clover for your children.

Name: ungrateful bastard
sweet home chicago

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 23:29:42

hello folks:

i don't drop into this site very often, but when i do, i tend to just read the interesting posts. society is what the people in the society make of it. you can't condemn all of the people for the actions of some. nothing is perfect. i noticed the fireworks between clas, gaucho and geena. i only have one question:

clas, gaucho-what do you guys want to be when you grow up?

Name: oleander
and one more thing

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 22:49:30

Slimmy--OK, so if some drunk asshole runs a stop sign and kills your wife and kid, what do you think is an appropriate punishment?

Name: oleander
raving on

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 22:44:48

PJ--Let's watch our we's. You don't speak for me. Like many people you seem to have a lack of understanding of the term socialism. It's not the same as communism, or fascism, or any other ism, and is not monolithic. It is also not incompatible with democracy. In fact, there are many socialist aspects to our dear American democracy.

Clas--How about celluloid bikers? Listen, buddy, are you OK lately?

fezo--right on, mostly.

Friquen Boriquen--if I come, will you still come? And bring those shoes? How about last weekend in April (second weekend of Fest?)?

Geena--I hope that a lot of what you said is out of the delirium of nicotine withdrawal, which is a bitch. The bootstrap thing works for some people, but to assume it works for everyone and that a little willpower is all it takes is naive at best. Your family may have had to pull themselves up, but you have reaped the fruits of their struggles and haven't had to even think about what some of your neighbors have to deal with every minute of their day. You should try switching places with some of my patients, white, African-American, Latino, Ukrainian, for a week or two and see how easy it is to make your own opportunities. You might learn that the crushing weight of racism, poverty, dealing with the social service system and chronic illness, watching your kids go hungry, etc., can be more than even you could bear. After a while some people give up or go crazy, and how can you blame them? Sisyphus can only do what he does in a myth. BTW, I have never lived in another country either; therefore, I have no way of knowing if I would rather live here.

Gaucho--Sorry to tell you that you're not my first, cochinito mio, and that there are better ways to get my attention. Like talking about Pinochet--talk about pigs, he is one of the first order, and only one more example of how the US has fucked Latinoamerica (among others) for decades. There are so many untold stories. In its deluded hemispheric domino theory, the CIA has shored up despots, kneecapped liberation movements, and participated in bribery, torture, and worse, all before breakfast. All US citizens should be ashamed of this record. But for someone who is so indignant about being typecast, surely you could come up with something better than that hackneyed yuppie stereotype. Despite our noxious exports and numbing cultural iconography, we are a vividly diverse country, which I believe is what will save us from Bud Lite and Bill Gates. The dumping problem will have to be fought from within and without. Let's see: experimental drugs, infant formula, pesticides, tobacco--the big boys will keep on pipelining them right into the "developing nations" until we all get hip.


Edd--You rule.

Roy--Hey cool breeze, how do you do it?

Why don't we all go listen to some good political music, like Les McCann & Eddie Harris, or Fela Kuti, or Victor Jara, or Violeta Parra, or John Coltrane, or Holly Near, or the Stones, or the Isleys, or Public Enemy, or--Steely Dan ("Royal Scam," "Only A Fool," "Fall of '92"...) Got others?

Name: JosieDanFan
illegal fun...under the sun

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 22:28:48

Hello Fellow DanFans,
Well shit..I'm not going to pretend to be interested in what Clas, Gaucho, and Geena are arguing about ( Geena I'm sorry, I still love ya girl!) I have to agree with Gaucho on the point he made about the U.S. media making such a huge deal about Clinton's sex scandal, but shushing about the bombing of the pharmacy. But who am I but some 20-something kid who doesn't know a damn thing?...and whatever...

Gaucho..maybe it is the name?

Cepper: Congrats on your weeks' survival..23 single male huh? we need to get together and talk hun...*wink,wink* me if ya want.

Lester: I myself am a semi Metallica fan..I don't own an album, but if they are on I'll listen to them. I like what they did with Bob Seger's "Turn the Page". But not as much as I like what Bob Seager has done with "Turn the Page".

Name: Slimmy

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 20:42:20

Roy: Thank god it was only a dream!

Clas: To quote Sting, "When the world is running down you make the best of what's still around." I have no idea what that means but I think it has something to do with limited resources further limited by Socialism. Is it true you can go to jail for a month if you're caught driving under the influence in your country? Do you still have a license?

Edd: I'm trying to "loop" like the big boys and need to know the tensil strength of Maxell 45 minute cassette tape. Will the signal really drop out if I touch the oxide? Which is more damaging, French's mustard or Grey Poupon?

Dr. Mu: How 'bout them Aggies?!

Loving my DiCaprio Haircut,


Name: Geena

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 19:50:44

Gaucho: Whatever, at least I know who I am and am happy for it.

ciao amico!

Name: Razor Boy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canadaa
Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 14:00:41

Ruby - yes, an email will be graciously accepted. I'm in a guest book rut right now- a pick me up would get me in the right fraome of mind. Currently, I feel like I'm off the wave length of most entries - so, feel free to drop me a line- Cheers Razor

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 10:25:04

lisa: Sanford-Townsend was definitely my favorite synthetic Dan band of the 70's; I wasn't aware of the later albums; I only have the eponymous one in vinyl and I've never seen it in CD form. Kenny Loggins helped with the writing and singing on that one BTW.

Dr.Mu: Any Laura Nyro record is good; the mystery of her career was that allof her songs were made famous by other artists (BS&T, 5th Dimension, 3 Dog Night, Streisand) when her own versions were excellent. -- My vote for most provocative Linda Ronstadt album cover is "Silk Purse", Linda sitting in the pig pen dressed like Daisy Duke. Unfortunately, no musician credits on that one. I think that was before she used The Eagles as an opening/back-up band.

Clas; I haven't received the brochures yet, but thanks for sending them; I'll let you know. And I'm glad that you and 'Political Junkie' have prepared your high school graduation ceremony speeches for the leaders of the 21st century.

Gaucho: Welcome back. We tried to keep your venom targets in working order for you. Based on your comments to Oleander and St. Al, I now know three things about Bolivia.

LP2/ Babylon Sister: I checked my old Rundgren vinyls for Steely Dan links, but couldn't recognize any; Todd was pretty finicky about doing almost everything himself and kept the use of other musicians to a minimum. I did , however, see session credit to Rick Danko and Levon Helm of The Band on Todd's 1970 album "Runt". That's sort of an oblique Steely link, since Levon and Donald Fagen have both loved the same woman.

Slimmy: I emphatically deny the eating or destruction of any Japanese metropolitan areas on the part of me or my wife. The fact that she occasionally breathes fire is merely circumstantial.


Name: Bobby Newmark
To: Geena

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 10:11:25

Check your mail, Geena.

Name: Gaucho

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 10:03:58

Dear Geena,

Your story is so beautiful, you should think about selling it to CNN or TIME, or both, they love that shit.

Without respect, let me tell you that you DO NOT UNDERSTAND what Clas is taking about. Period. You probably will never understand because you're up to your neck on that shit that your TV, your USA TODAY, and your friends regurgitate daily.

What you have is technically called the "G.I. Joe Meme". The "G.I. Joe Meme" is a self replicating, virulent information structure which convinces those inflicted with it that they pertain to this select group of individuals who are destined to save the world by propagating capitalism.

The worst thing is that capitalism is taking over the world, Soon we will be all eating McDonalds, wearing GAP, drinking Coke (oops, sorry, that one is already there...). The difference between Clas and you is that he understands that by the time you gringos are done, there will be nothing left in this planet for those with half a brain to enjoy life.

No more Chateauneuf-du-Pape, no more Saltenas, no more Pitayas, no more Fito, the US is one big steamroller, which turns everything it touches into shit, then packs it, labels it, and sells it for a profit, to you and your fucking friends who have no other purpose in life but consume, consume, consume, like a cloud of crickets destroying a crop.

So enjoy your mortgage driven life of plastic flavours and fake feelings, go shoping for Christmas, but NEVER, EVER think yourself superior to a guy like Clas.

Name: Geena

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 09:31:44

Something you don't know about me, I HAVE gotten ahead with my brain. But thanks for the advice.

Name: Geena

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 09:21:45

Why are you so edgy lately? I'm, sorry that you feel the way you do about the US, but I for one would rather live here than anywhere else in the world. I can't understand how you can judge the US from just visiting? You have to live and experience this place for many years before you can begin to pass judgement. And I'm sorry that you feel like a social outcast for being one of the few non-Americans who post here. This is just an impression that I've gathered from what you wrote. It's not meant to insult.

You called me naïve? That's okay, If that is your opinion of me, then you have a right to think what you want. However, this is my experience as an American living in the US: My parents came to this country at a time when immigrants were not very welcomed here. Yeah, my dad arrived with 40 cents in his pocket and we lived in a cold water flat. My mom worked in a sweat factory sewing lapels on army uniforms for piecework and my dad worked in a slaughterhouse. But they didn't complain, they knew opportunity was out there, this is why they came here.
Neither of my parents spoke English, but we managed to move out of a tenement building into a 3-family in a neighborhood rich with diversity. As supposed outcasts of society at the time, our neighborhood was composed of Jewish, Italian & African American, with a sprinkling of Irish and Lebanese. My dad had saved up enough money as down payment to buy the apartment building we were living in. He worked very hard for a man who's handicap was his language.

You see, like the Jews as well as other immigrants, we were not welcomed with open arms here either. People are afraid of others who are different in language, culture, religion etc. They pass judgement and form their own opinions without really getting to know who we are! This is called racism, which sorry to say, you have displayed here as well. At the time my parents came here, no one would give the Jews or the Italians jobs and we had families to support, so we started our own businesses. If you seek it, you will find it, if you don't then that's the CHOICE you've made in life, it's not going to fall in your lap. You have your own business, you know that in order to survive, you have to work hard and seek those opportunities for growth.

Recently, a run down, gang busted, neighborhood close to me has been revamped with the efforts of people wanting to change their lives and make a difference. New businesses were opened by local residents, and new attitudes were formed. The area is now clean and safe. These are choices they've made. This is what you'll never see or experience by visiting a big city.

If you believe that you have no future and are not important, then you will be that way. If you think that you can make a difference and strive for it, then you'll be successful in mind and spirit. This is an individual's attitude, nothing that a government or society can give or take away from you.

Our freedom is that we can be and do whatever we want to better our lives and our future, yes anyone can be President, even a garbage man! If he or she wants it bad enough, they have that choice! I want to be an Engineer, that's my freedom and my choice.

I'm fooling myself? I don't think so. If someone is happy living in a box or in Bolivia, again, that's a choice and a freedom. I lived in a 2-room apartment when I was first married. We were happy, but we knew it wasn't forever, and only a matter of time before that changed. Being happy is not the material things you have, it's your state of mind.

Opportunity lies in negativity.

Name: Gaucho
Location: Gloria, Liquid Ombligo del Mundo
Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 08:50:30

Let's see.

MMW. Yesterday I had the chance to see a great show. Medeski, Martin & Wood ("The Lawyers", as my good friend Ilya calls them). What the fuck can I say, fucking guys. I was sweet, and good and so very refreshing. I even had a word with John's mom. Just letting her know she gave the world a true talent.

If any of you have enough time to take your heads out of your assholes (musically speaking), go to and get Combustication (Blue Note). MMW also did an outstanding collaboration with John Scofield, available on Verve.

Max Bird, Less Young, Gus Johnson, Oscar Peterson, Bud Powell, Cecil Taylor, Bob Moses, John Zorn.............

Ahhh, and for those of you not afraid of browpeople, try Sabina y Peaz:Enemigos Intimos.

Anyway, back to what brought me here on the first place.

Josie, I think I am attracted to you too...I don't know, maybe the name.

Geena, I hope you're one hot chick. Sincerely. Otherwise you're fucked. (Corollary.- If you expect to get ahead with your brain you're in for a BIG disappointment).

Lester, You mean you're wife told you I'm slow and sloppy ?

Shaman, (Coke.Pepsi)(Mac.PC)(Gaucho.Shaman)

Clas, I guess you are still teaching these boludos something about life. So how about this Pinochet, mother fucker. (By the was, it's Chile, not Chili, you ignorant fuck!!). You know, I really get a kick out of these stupid gringos who think their government is so 'right'. The fuckers literally put Pinochet in government and allowed him, no questions asked, to KILL thousands of people. Now the US government is, as they put it, "thinking about requesting extradition of Pinochet to the US to put him on trial". WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SHIT.

This is part of that double standard that the US lives daily. The president gets a blow job and all hell breaks loose, but CNN never researched what the fuck happened when the US bombed the hell out of that farmaceutical company in Africa, killing hundreds of innocent men, women and children. But there is still no proof that there was anything going on at that factory (except that they where making some much needed medicine). These fucking gringos are afraid of the truth and hide behind their delutions of grandeur and the mighty dolar. (For you fucking yankee fags, try reading something like The Economist once in a while)

Here's a test for Gringos that think the US is so hot.

Can you remember what you did on June 1996. Of course you can, because you probably did the same shit you're doing now. Let's see.

Wake up, low fat breakfast, news, drive to work, smile and say hi to your coworkers (the fact that you know NOTHING about them does not bother you AT ALL, for all you know they may even be mass murderers, fags or even atheists, SHIT), sit down and work, pasta or chicken salad for lunch, work, work, work, drive home, TV, mommy pays the mortgage while daddy cooks new recipy from Frugal Gourmet or The Urban Peaseant, both SHARE washing the dishes, more TV, daddy changes the channel because they are showing those awful pictures of starving people in some unpronunceable, God forsaken country (or is it territory), let's ignore that, or better yet, let's send 5$ so our souls can rest in peace, put kids to bed (don't forget to ask kids how they did in school), watch a little more TV until you are drowsy, fuck I can't sleep but I have those little pink pills, don't I, while you get sleepy, think about something NICE. What about those RAIDERS, shit...........Dam, if I get that raise I'll put some money away to pay Johny's MASTERCARD. Note to oneself, tell Johny to stop calling his girlfriend on the cell phone...........Fuck the MASTERCARD, I make the minimum payment and put that money down for the new COROLLA...........Night, night honey.....

When was the last time

Name: Freakin' Puerto Rican
careful what you say

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 07:57:13

Clas: careful with the "F" word. You just might come down with some kind of phobia. BTW, I am from a 3rd world country. When I came to the US, I was thrilled of the possibilities. I found out quick I was still living in my 3rd world ways.

Tell me about this event in new orleans? Who is going?
schwin, I too have a bike. Maybe we can meet up on the way.
Bob Seger, roll me away is a cool tune.

Michael: What's wrong with Michael? Everyone knows you by that name.

Name: fezo
weekend, yay!

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 07:45:05

Political Junkie: While I agree 100 percent with your take on the concepts of free will and the benefits gained from hard work, man, you got to come up with better real life examples of those principles.

Thomas benefitted mainly from the color of his skin. His education advanced only because of admission to schools with affirmative action programs and he is only on the Supreme Court because the Republicans wanted a lawn ornament of their own on the Supremes so they could claim to be racially sensitive.

Gates has stolen (or paid paltry sums) for most of the ideas from which Microsoft now benefits and now faces the strong likelihood of losing an antitrust case brought against his company by the government.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 05:37:31

Political Junkie: I am at work. As I run my own biz I decide when to work and when not to work. Got it?

"Clas - so let me get this straight. We're getting moral lectures from a guy who says he's married but practically has virtual love affairs with strangers on the GB?"

What is a virtual love affair? A little flirting around? To calm you down I can tell you that my wife reads this GBook from time to time and I have nothing to hide from her.

"Oh, you're right that too many people in the US don't get opportunities. And right again that there are homeless and hungry people here, and this is something we should have a finger wagged at us about. An awful lot of people are trying to make that problem better, and we do have welfare and other social programs too, which help lots of unfortunate people.

BUT many, many OTHER people DO NOT take advantage of opportunities that ARE AVAILABLE here (thank you Geena) because they are JUST LAZY."

JUST LAZY? What kind of society makes people "just lazy"? A society that make people think that - I got no future, I am not needed, etc.

"It's called free will, and some people use it to pursue short term pleasures (watching sitcoms, doing drugs, getting laid with strangers and five hundred other ways to waste precious time including, yes, too much time on the Internet) instead of pursuing long-term goals and well-being. I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that Bill Gates (Microsoft founder), Clarence Thomas (a U.S. Supreme Court Justice) and even our beloved Becker and Fagen don't watch much T.V., for example. They're too busy making art, making a difference, making things happen. I don't even LIKE Bill Gates, I think he's an arrogant prick. But he knows how to take advantage of opportunity."

That's my point.

"And the lack of opportunity for those (relatively very few, actually, though granted even one is too many) who truly are hungry and homeless through no fault of their own is not an excuse for turning the whole country into a socialist state.

Socialism just guarantees that people aren't motivated to go after big opportunity, because they know their individual efforts will not be fully rewarded; they'll be SUCKED AWAY by a bloated GOVERNMENT-GOD that'll give the money THEY worked for to someone who MAY or MAY NOT be in real need.

It is no accident that both Bill Gates and Clarence Thomas (who grew up VERY poor and black in the racist south with few advantages except the best ones: a moral upbringing, a work-your-ass-off ethic and a belief that individual effort brings results, the basis of a capitalist system) found their success in the U.S. instead of in Sweden. This IS the land of opportunity for many, MANY people.

If you don't believe us, ask yourself: why are the thousands upon thousands of people each year who are NOT trying to get into Sweden beating down the USA's doors and jumping borders whenever possible, trying to get in?"

Though you seem to be a US-native I understand that you don't know much about the rest of the world:

1. Sweden is not a socialist state.

2. Refugees from the whole world is coming to Sweden. Thousands upon thousands. (an example: when USA helped Pinochet the Dictator and Murderer take over Chili, there was a mass immigrations of people from Chili coming to Sweden)

"So to give it right back to you: we're not blaming you personally for the faults of a socialist system, but take your socialist preaching somewhere else. LONG LIVE THE USA!!!"

Okay, but let's see how long.

Name: Political Junkie, Part II
speaking of wastes of time...

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 05:04:11

Clas - aren't you supposed to be at work?
I rest my case.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 04:57:09


About five years ago I was drunk as a duck. I was alone at home and I was very bored. Being drunk is a boring thing when you're alone. I had listen to all these Steely CD's over and over and the neighbors was screaming.

So I called my local pusher for some "wide awake stuf" and he popped up faster than the PizzaExpress. I mixed a little of the magic stuff in water, drank it and wow, Time Out of Mind, life was fun again. I was sharp as a razor.

But I needed something to do and I came to think about the Hells Angels that had their headquarter a couple of miles from where I was living. Why not cheer them up?

Of course, their number was'nt in the telephonebook but in some way I managed to track it down. I think I should have the Purlitzer for that one. The mix of booze and white makes you very creativ.

So, I called them and one of the scary ones answered. I said;

- Hey my name is Clas, I think you and your buddies are fags.

- What?

- Man, turn on your hearingaid and listen; I think you and your buddies are fags and retarded cretins.

- Oh man, you're dead, I'll trace this call and you'll regret that you was ever borned.

- You don't have to trace this call, here's my number and my address. I gave it to him. And hang up.

It took five seconds and the phone rang. It was my Hells Angels-friend.

- Okay fuckhead, now we got you.

- Sure, I'll be waiting outside, hurry up, moron.

I walked outside and waited. And waited. No one ever came.

But I must say after that night I have a little thing about motorcycles coming up from behind.

Oleander; what has this to do with a Steely Dan Moment?

Waiting for a killer?

Name: Slimmy, Son of William
only twelve more degrees till christmas

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 04:55:16

Edd: Look, I'm back! Have you repaired that cable yet? No more "mercury poisoning" stories. How's that tick? Are those rubber shoes good insulators or what?

Roy and Myra: I had a dream shortly before they released me from "special camp" where Roy was Godzilla and Myra was Mothra. Please tell me you don't read from right to left...

Kinky: Remember when I promised not to tell anyone about how you wove a basket around Nurse Gamgee's head? Well, my lips are still sealed!

Dr. Mu: Is it true that physicists often test the reliability of their models in a vacuum so that pesky earth atmosphere won't skew the data? How often should we expect a routine servicing mission?

Senator Glenn: Welcome back to the Hill, Citizen! I can't tell you the pride I felt when I saw you floating around in the shuttle. Do you and Chuck Yeager really hit each other or is that just fake blood?

Don & Walt: Take your time. Learn some new chords. Experiment with fetal tissue. Remix some old shit and write some new liner notes. Don't worry. I for one won't be asking for your phone number and e-mail address.

Attentive and Retentive,

Son of William

Name: Political Junkie
what the hell, let's discuss Alan Greenspan

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 04:55:14

Clas - so let me get this straight. We're getting moral lectures from a guy who says he's married but practically has virtual love affairs with strangers on the GB?

Oh, you're right that too many people in the US don't get opportunities. And right again that there are homeless and hungry people here, and this is something we should have a finger wagged at us about. An awful lot of people are trying to make that problem better, and we do have welfare and other social programs too, which help lots of unfortunate people.

BUT many, many OTHER people DO NOT take advantage of opportunities that ARE AVAILABLE here (thank you Geena) because they are JUST LAZY.

It's called free will, and some people use it to pursue short term pleasures (watching sitcoms, doing drugs, getting laid with strangers and five hundred other ways to waste precious time including, yes, too much time on the Internet) instead of pursuing long-term goals and well-being. I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that Bill Gates (Microsoft founder), Clarence Thomas (a U.S. Supreme Court Justice) and even our beloved Becker and Fagen don't watch much T.V., for example. They're too busy making art, making a difference, making things happen. I don't even LIKE Bill Gates, I think he's an arrogant prick. But he knows how to take advantage of opportunity.

And the lack of opportunity for those (relatively very few, actually, though granted even one is too many) who truly are hungry and homeless through no fault of their own is not an excuse for turning the whole country into a socialist state.

Socialism just guarantees that people aren't motivated to go after big opportunity, because they know their individual efforts will not be fully rewarded; they'll be SUCKED AWAY by a bloated GOVERNMENT-GOD that'll give the money THEY worked for to someone who MAY or MAY NOT be in real need.

It is no accident that both Bill Gates and Clarence Thomas (who grew up VERY poor and black in the racist south with few advantages except the best ones: a moral upbringing, a work-your-ass-off ethic and a belief that individual effort brings results, the basis of a capitalist system) found their success in the U.S. instead of in Sweden. This IS the land of opportunity for many, MANY people.

If you don't believe us, ask yourself: why are the thousands upon thousands of people each year who are NOT trying to get into Sweden beating down the USA's doors and jumping borders whenever possible, trying to get in?

Asian immigrants show up with NOTHING IN THEIR POCKETS, knowing virtually NO ENGLISH and within a few years they're successful business owners. This happens OVER and OVER and OVER again. Why? Because capitalism works and individual effort, when allowed to be rewarded, flourishes. Period.

So to give it right back to you: we're not blaming you personally for the faults of a socialist system, but take your socialist preaching somewhere else. LONG LIVE THE USA!!!

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 03:51:24

The Stranger - oh, you mean rich in money! Of course you did, how stupid of me... who is Michelle Pfeiffer?

Geena - you're so naive. "Free country", well, if there is such thing I don't count USA as one of them.

"...opportunity is here in the USA for those who seek it..." so, anybody can be the president? The black guy that works as a garbage-pickupper in Mandeville? No way he can, capitalism takes its tools. And you mean, everybody has the opportunity to get a decent life? Well, that would be desirable. So would Paradise.

And more "...opportunity is here in the USA for THOSE WHO SEEK it...". So you mean that there are people that are satisfied living on junkyards? They are so stupid, so underclassed, so degenerated so they don't want a piece of the cake? Come on girl, don't fool yourself, society and life are a little more complicated than that.

And maybe you should ask mr Gaucho why he is happier living in Bolivia than living in Miami. I think that would a very good question. And I think he would come up with a real good answer.

And I could be really mean and ask some of you GBookers why you don't seek those "opportunitys". But I already know the answer to that question. You're stuck.

So, my point is, I'm not blaming any of you personally for the the unmoral way USA and other countries ( yes Sweden too) has taken. And I am living in a country that are an USA in mini-format. God, I even watch Fran Drescher and Letterman here. But I blame rich western countries for not taking care of their own people. People without opportunitys. Instead they sell us dreams and dreams and dreams on those fiftyeight channels that are pumping out shit around the clock. The government, the state or whatever has the opportunity to help people help them selves.

So don't come to me and wave your finger little girl.

But what the fuck, let's fire off a bomb against Iraq so we don't have to think about those things.

Happy Halloween or whatever.

Name: Schwinn

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 03:03:35

Ruby--You go girl! I've rubbed power ties with my share of sociopaths and am absolutely, positively, unequivocally 100% behind your brazen, daring forwardness. You should toss and turn more often...

Good Clean Game,


Name: RubyBaby

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 01:41:42

Michael P: I'm having a sleepless in CA kind of night. What better thing to do than enter a groovy contest?

How about: Terzo Mondo

I'm gonna miss your *real good fucking name* though. The fact that U are using your own name is unique in itself.

Counting sheep never worked for me. Maybe I'll try hearing Donald Fagen sing 99 Bottles of Beer On The Wall...


Name: Mr. Rogers

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 01:40:22

Michael C. Packard,

I hereby christen you, "Tall Skinny Girl".

Tell me, did you fuck anyone to those lyrics?

It's a Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood,


Name: Bobby Newmark

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 00:45:06

I'm almost thankful that I've been on sabbatical for so long---what a borefest/scrollfest this thing has become. Imagine that you're an outsider watching this GB. Barry Manilow?? Hornsby?? Now Rundgren, Fogerty, Neil Diamond(Solitary Man rocks and you all know it) are different stories. I'm almost embarrassed, though, guys. I want to back you up, but, I'd be going against my own moral principles if I did so. I don't know, I'm almost speechless. And Geena, et tu Geenay? I'm perplexed.........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................c o u n t z i r 0 .........................................i n t e r r u p t ...................................................................Later.

B. Newmark

Name: ?
@pretty please?

Date: Saturday, December 5, 1998 at 00:08:33

Jack O'Speed.

Name: Kinky

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 21:22:09

Oh, Deacon Blues? Yeah, that'll do too... they already got a name for the winners in the world...

Name: Kinky

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 21:14:34

Michael See Packard Doo - One of these might suit you... take your pick:

Gentleman Loser

Born To Play The Fool

A Sad Thing

Take Me For A Fool

Sad Old Man

Fabled Fool

Ten Cent Life

Only A Fool

One More Chimp

Call Me A Fool

Name: Michael C. Packard
Location: AOK In The Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 20:13:03

Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!

As, "Name-R-Us" has named several. I do propose the one best suited for me.

They are all good---especially, "Deacon Blues", which I will gladly accept.

Please advise, DanFanGangGuestBookers!!

Saludos, and will be online at the "ParaChat", at 11:00 p.m. CST tonight, and my soundboard recordings are just fantastic!!

Ask the women who have made love to the WB & DF "boots", like "Magda"!!


; )

Name: Names-R-Us
bulk rates

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 20:05:20

MC Packard -

You rang?

10) Charlie Freak
9) Major Dude
8) The Rooster
7) Deacon Blues
6) Third World Man
5) Buzz
4) Lou Chang
3) Bodhisattva
2) El Supremo

And the recommended new moniker:

1) "Oh Michael"

Name: Michael C. Packard
Location: Pleasant Night In The Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 19:31:40

Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!

Re.: Needing a true-related DanFan "name", as most-of-you already have.

A "Contest" herre for giving me a new "name"----other than my own "real good" fucking one.

Must be "Steely Dan" related, and must be unique----Heaven forbid I run into the same problem as "Babylon Sister", formerly known as "Luckless Pedestrian"; and, JosieDan, who indicates she is not the former "Josie".

So, "name me", and you will receive several "soudboard" quality Steely Dan sets from the 1974/93-94/96 live sets.

Best entry for a new name gets it, and you can vote on it!!!

Thankyou and Saludos!!!

; )

Name: DrMu
Tip E. Canoe

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 19:30:23

Michael C.:) LOL, but be careful, man. Just over here in a bit drier Central Texas, the women are of Czech, German, Hispanic, French/Cajun, and African-American lineage...hardly a WASP is sight...when they hit 30 - COULD be bottom's up! Ideal for carrying and dragging boatloads of own/neighborhood children and wayward husbands!

Geena: I'll push away the beans and rice...and put down a quarter for a listen at one of the local shops which will let one preview a CD for 2 bits.

Clas: Let's get this straight. Tom Bodet and I are responsible for the morning wake-up calls from the Motel 6 Pyramid Sunshine Sleepyhead and Drive-through Continental Breakfast Service. Dial 555-WAKE and punch (*)6 to connect to the digital menu to order, using a 3-digit code, on your way in. "Heart in an ion grid" omlette is Saturday's Special. You are assigned the "late-nite tuck-me in service."

Name: Geena
eating raspberry jolly rancher candy

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 18:37:23

Ole: Thanks for your support. This is the toughest thing I've ever had to go through and I'm sure Clas will agree with me.

fezo: I just found a web site and it said Tom Fogerty died of AIDS complications in September, 1990, and it looks like two of the original members formed Creedence Clearwater Revisited, of course, John went out on his own. Early on in my music career, I seem to remember that he and his brother John weren't on speaking terms for many years and yet more legal battles ensued.

TheStranger: my apologies for dissin' your kerplotkins, but you must have been in heaven when a truckload of them pulled up in front of your house. Tell me, I hear on Grovular, they're used in the black market to purchase earthlings for use as domestic technicians in Grovulan homes.

Cepper: Glad you survived your first week on the GB. We usually send most newbies home crying on the first day.

YGK: Thanks and I'd absolutely love to go to an art opening in Chelsea or even Brooklyn. Do you know that I am also an artist? I use clean, unbaked and unleaded ceramic pieces that I buy from a woman who thinks I'm crazy, but pours them for me anyway and I use anything from acrylics to oils, and depending on the era or part of the world my mind is in the time, I create the theme for it. Sometimes I go to yard sales and flea markets and buy old junk jewelry pieces and make my own creations such as pins, earrings and chachkas. I did have a small exhibit about 7 years ago at a gallery called "Starving Artists" here in Boston, and did pretty good. Hmmmm, maybe a Steely Dan or Guestbook theme could be my next project, ya think? Can't wait to check out your webite!

Name: Anita Hill

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 18:16:15

Me and my pal Ken Starr are coming after you next, Michael Packard

Name: Petunia Pig
Porkers Unite!

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 17:53:17

Golly Mr Packard, What would this world be without all the fat-bottomed girls making the rockin' world go round? You know the old saying, the bigger the cushion, the better the pushin'! Besides, if your WIFE knew you had said that about her, you'd be sleeping on the sofa indefinately!

Name: Babylon Sister
Maybe later

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 17:46:29

You guys CRACK ME UP!!!!!! Live and learn, ya know??

Name: Michael C. Packard
Location: Stormy NIght In The Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 17:34:51

Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!!

Hope all-is-well, and everything is going GREAT!!! I do believe when I was in graduate school and studying Scandanavian politics that the Swedish people had the highest per capita income.

As to the bitching and infighting----let's get some of that aforementioned Y2KJelly and mud and have a new WWF tag-team, the "Steely Dan" masked team (in this corner)!!

As to yet another DanMoment in my life, when I was turning platters part-time (as was the DJ job) at a local dance club in Oklahoma City called: "After The Gold Rush".

As most of the DJ's in the GB know, the most beautiful voices over the phone calling you, wanting to come and visit you at the station, bring you beer and pizza, and so on----usually were the 300 lb. "porkers". So, I devised a plan to find out about how these women looked on the Tuesday and Thursday nights when I would do the music in between band sets. Some of my favorite songs to play were "Do It Again", and "Honky Tonk Women". Well, when I was on-the-air at the station and receive a call, I would tell the caller to sit at a certain table at "After The Gold Rush", and I could see how she looked from the console.

Yep, most were of the "Porker" variety; and, I used my real name at the club but another name while at the radio station, so the women who sat at that table didn't know I was the one. So, I could find the right ones, and got a few pizzas, hooters, and other stuff brought to me at the station.

Stevie Ray, Edgar Winter, Rick Derringer, and many other bands played at the club in the middle '70's.

My favorite "job" at the club was being the "official person" to register the women for the "big tit" and "little tit" wet t-shirt contest which payed about $100 for first place.

One night, as "Do It Again" was playing, two attractive women came up to the console and said, "We want to register for the wet t-shirt contest." And, I said, "which one do you want to register for?" They looked at each other and said, "we don't know", raised their shirts up----exposed their tits, and asked me, "what do you think these are".

Slightly dumbfounded, I proceeded to take down their names, addresses, phone numbers, and other personal information-----guess it was just one of the perks of the job---LOL!!!!!

Indeed, I did call a few of them!

Geena, I have to think of the song I have in mind for you, kiddo----rest assured, it will be appropriate.

Saludos, friends!!!!

; )

" . . .you go back, Jack----do it again . . ."

Name: Geena
leaving work soon

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 14:04:58

Clas: The opportunity is here in the USA for those who seek it, And I have prime examples for a few excuses some people use who disagree with that. Unfortunately, in third world countries, they don't have that choice. This is why the U.S. is a free country.

Name: E.Z. Choice
Kevorkian Blvd.

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 13:40:27

Let me see No Steely Dan and the only choice is Bruce Hornsby. I think its time to call Dr. K , rather than listen to him.

Name: YGK
Location: New York, NY Baby!
Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 13:39:06

Geena: Too Bad. The non-tourist tour offer still stands - even in the Spring. Sorry you can't make it, but perhaps I will be able to invite you to an Art opening in Chelsea or Brooklyn then with one of my artists.

Monday, monday, monday - I'm psyched. The initial phase of the Brooklyn Coalition of Artists in Park Slope will be on line at - - it's my baby. By Monday, we should have a tasty crop of new work on the site. Check it out if you like contemporary art.



Name: Mitch
semi-annual update

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 13:26:20

What is the big deal about the official site being down ? Tune in six months and it might be updated.

Name: lester the nightfly
no cap locks this

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 12:21:26

fez- u had me stumped, do u have anymore?

cepper- u made it through your first week congratulations! Small goals lead to bigger ones and I have the biggest one here! By the way old farts have nothin better to do but to curse each other out and I'm sorry to hear about your sexual fustrations!

Well my friends band won the Tampa Bay Battle of the Bands last night and now they will open for Motley Crue at Ruth Eckard Hall!
They won the Battle of the Bands last year also and they got to open up for Queensryche! As u can figure out they r a hard rock/metal band which I'm sure not everyone here r fans of!
I was wondering who else here is into Hard Rock? I'm not considering bands like Ben Folds Five hard rock either I mean bands like Metallica and Alice in Chains, stuff like that!

Name: Cepper

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 11:37:52

Well, it's the end of my first week aboard. It seems to me that most of the older folks here are too busy cursing each other out about pointless things, while all the 20-somethings are just using the GB to ventilate their sexual frustrations.
(Incidentally, I'm 23, male, single- *wink,wink*)

The only thing I can't figure out is what is up with that "Prelude to a DELI CAT kess" post. Also, I apologize in advance for those of you who don't fit into my sweeping generalization of this board ;-)

Name: fezo

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 09:44:40

Edd: you are right, sir. impressive. i thought i would stump the GBers with that one.

Stranger: So far the inflatable dummy has been quite the reasonable facsimile for Michelle. Never needs to sleep and isn't startled by my cries of "Oh Walter, Oh Donald" as I reach nirvana

Name: TheStranger
what a glorious time to be free

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 09:25:58

listen, when we insult 3rd world countries we always do so affectionately because to paraphrase george carlin, if we didn't have brown-skinned people in third world countries to bomb the shit out of, we would lose one our most cherished tradition. and we are the richest country on earth. ask bill gates. he's got 46 billion dollars but still wants more cause he's not sure if he can make his refrigerator payment next month.

look, don't even joke about kerplotkins. i invested my life savings in them and i can't afford for anything to go wrong. hey, i like laura nyro too. but she repeats a line over and over and i don't have the patience for it anymore. for brooding-broad albums, the best, i think, is joni mitchell's 'blue.'

hey, clas, i take back every rotten thing i said about hornsby. i discovered his cd makes an excellent doorstop. and if becker-fagen do stop composing, it's a fucking disaster, understand? trying to replace them with hornsby is like substituting an inflatable dummy for michelle pfeiffer.

Name: Edd

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 07:16:15

Southern Pacific

Name: fezo

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 05:51:28

Geena: I thought Fogarty's brother died only a couple of years ago. That's why I thought John had finally started playing Creedence stuff in concert again. I also heard he hadn't spoken to his brother for years and years. If he did die back in the 80's, that would certainly explain the long period of silence.

trivia for all: What 80's country rock band included two Doobies and one CCR member?

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 04:15:28

Shaman - are you serious, there will be no more Steely Dan Album? Well, that's not the end of the world. There was a time I though quitingt booze was the end of the world. It was'nt.

So please Fagen/Becker, if you wanne quit, do so. I'll listen to those Hornsby tunes instead.

Dr (the Stuff Prizer) Mu - have you made any phonecalls today? To woman? Of sexuall nature?

Name: Prelude to a DELI CAT kess
@return to heroes, w/extra mustard
Location: old LA, CA USofA
Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 03:46:14

eeeeooooouuuuuuu, she said as she got up from the sand.
"What's wrong Ginger?" said one of her friends. "IT'S
then, the cats looked at each other, snickered, then raised
that funny whisker shit on top of their eyes and said,
"LET'S SCOOT!" They turned, took one last look at them, and
took off down the beach like two sandrail dragsters, full
throttle! Sand was flying everywhere! Then something
happened. One said, "Hold on a second, HIT THE BRAKES!"
The sand started plowing through their claws and the mound
of sand in front of them pulled them to a dead stop. "What
in the fuck are we stopping for!!!said one. The other
replied, You gotta see this. Look over there, HE WAIRS...
an itsy, bitsy, teeny weenie, not yellow, and not a bikini,
but someone is definitely POLKA-DOTTED!!!!man, you set
yourself up for this stuff, ya know. All right where were
we, ok, after a long walk, they arrived on the boulevard.
"Man, we gotta walk this road alone?" Yep, said the other.
"Now, ssshh, quiet. You see that shack over there. That's
the rappers 187 hangout. Extremely dangerous. Lost a couple
of my buddies near here. They were just minding their own
business and got shot by some gang on a driveby shooting.
Why rap about killing people, that just isn't any good for
anyone? Think about that one. Across the street is the
Soul Survivers Place. "Man, that place is almost empty!"
So up the street they prowled. "Hey, look it's a fish and
chips place" "DON'T EVEN FUCKIN THINK ABOUT, for some strange
reason I will never eat fish sticks again!! C'mon, keep
walking." What's this? Melba's Mystic Mood House. Let's see
what's in there. There she sat, in a dimly lit room. Come
in kittens, she said. Sit down and watch my ouija board.
Put your paws right here. So they did. The pointer started
to move. A--J---A it spelled out. The cats were saying YEAH.
Then it started to move again. T---O----R-----O it spelled.
Right then the cats looked at one another and said, Lets
get the fuck outta here, Melba's toasted! So out the door
they went. Up the pavement they went. There was Mike's
Alligator Shoe Store, Huey's Sport's Bar, Stan's La Place
Leo's Solar Pirate Cove, Kim's Acorn Tavern, Joe's on the
Corner, Bobby's Cold Well Drinks and so many more. Then one
cat said, "MAN, There must be 64 bars on this boulevard,
ARE WE THERE YET?" Then they saw it, The bright sign in
lights. STEELY DAN playing nightly. They just sat down and
said, AWESOME, truly AWESOME indeed. Let's go in the alley
and see if we can get in. Now, we've done this part here
already, so let's cut to the chase scene. Those pups were
quite tipsy by then and decided to go for it. The cats
sensed they had better do something. So they climbed on
a barrel and did some serious logrolling right towards those
dogs and at the second leaped off. Steeeerike. Bowled them
right over. Except for one. "What is that?" "It's a dang
Berzoi, a lusty swaying one at that. Now that, is time for
me to throw the biggest, whitest towel at my computer!!!
Awesome, truly, AWESOME! Hey, the windows open, Let's go
inside! Ever seen a cat turn into a pogo stick? The cats
went right in the full house. Wow, Steely Dan Live! It was
cool. What one cat didn't know, is that he was sitting
right on a live cable and someone in the crowd spotted the
cats and screamed, "Hey! There's cats in here! In the
commotion, someone knocked their drink right on the poor
guy. RRREEEEOOOOOWWWWW! The cat shot off his feet, straight
to the roof. His head hit the light. Sparks showered to the
floor. The lights fluttered and went off. When he fell, he
landed right into a bucket of water. Steam rolled up and
the other cat ran to see if his buddy was okay. Then he had
an idea. There was a fan right behind the bucket, so he
turned it on, and fog started rolling onto the stage. "Hey
you alright?" The cat was shaking his head trying to figure
out what had just happened. "What the....what the fuck
happened?" The other cat told him and said "You're lucky,
at least you still got your fuzz on, a bit of a afro dew,
but you still have it." "Let's go see the show, it's
starting." There they were, Steely Dan was on stage,
playing Peg. One cat said, "Do you see what I see?" "YEAH,
this is SO COOL, STEELY DAN LIVE!" The other cat was still
shaking the cobwebs out of his head. He says,"I can barely
hear it. It sounds like almost like Peg, but not quite and
I can't see anything except a guitar and two hands....this
is weird. Where am I..this will come back to me.
When the show was over, they walked outside and heard some
people fighting about something..they couldn't quite make
it out, but it was something about opie being grounded. As
they walked away, they turned and through the fog, that sign,
said, The Haig.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Friday, December 4, 1998 at 02:29:26

It's funny to see you yankees call Bolivia "Third World". I've seen the bums and the minorites on the Santa Monica beach, and it wasn't on Baywatch. I've also been to Louisiana and Mississippi several times and man, talk about third world. And don't mention New York City.

What was that you said Stranger? USA are the richest country on earth? Don't think so pal.

Name: Return to Brenda

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 23:33:13

Finally found my lost hyper-interdimensional accelerator and though I know activating it has, for better or worse, numbered my days on this planet, I'm happy to say the new one is out! It's here, baby! And I positively adore the title: "Y2K Jelly". I just know this artistic triumph is going to grease the millennial gears, lube the cosmic chasis, resurrect Timothy Leary and get me the good-god-damn out of this southeast asia tennis shoe factory. It was fun, it was grand, but I prefer my paradise free and clear of iridium, thank you.

Gonna Kinda Miss the Explosions,


Name: oleander
slowly I turned...

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 20:19:08

Lyricmeister--whoa! Virtual simulpostation!

Name: oleander
we cut to this blonde

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 20:17:13

Frus--As is my wont, I checked in on the Official Site before coming here, and it looked just the same. Sigh.

GKJ--Try Tomas Broberg's most excellent site, where you'll find words to both. ( Funny you should mention it -- there was recently a discussion on Tomas' rendition of CE, and the consensus was:

We tap to this line ---> We cut to this blonde

Call it pirate raid on ---> Call it pirate radar

Scratch the camera/...locals ---> Scratch the cab/...local

Also, in TC I believe it's "abstraction," not "extraction." What think? Just give yourself lots of time to explore Tomas' site, because it'll suck you right in.

Geena--You go girl!

Name: GB Lyric Service
welcome wagon

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 20:16:17

GK John -
Welcome to the GB!

A few lugnuts aside, we're pretty friendly here and we aim to please. So at your request:

"True Companion"
Crewmen of the True Companion
I can see you're tired of action
In this everlasting twilight
Home is just a sad abstraction

Just beyond the troubled skyways
Young men dream of fire and starshine
I've been dreaming of my own green world
Far across the reach of spacetime

"Century's End"
Those trucks in the street: is it really Monday
Time to find some trouble again
Make a bid for romance, while the dollar stands a chance
Dumb love in the city at Century's End

We cut to this blonde, dancing on a mirror
There's no disbelief to suspend
It's the dance, it's the dress: she's a concept, more or less
Dumb love in the city at Century's End

(At Century's End) Nobody's holding out for heaven
It's not for creatures here below
We just suit up for a game
Name of which we used to know
It might be "Careless Rapture"

This kid's got the eye, call it pirate radar
Scoping out the room for some trend
But there's nobody new, so she zeroes in on you
Dumb love in the city at Century's End

(At Century's End) Nobody's holding out for heaven
It's not for creatures here below
We just suit up for a game
Name of which we used to know
By now it's second nature

Scratch the cab, we can grab the local
Let's get to the love scene my friend
Which means look, maybe touch, but beyond that not too much
Dumb love in the city at Century's End
Dumb love in the city

Happy Holidays! Don't say the GB never did anything for ya.

Name: JosieDanFan
Well hello fella...

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 19:43:12

Hey Dan Fans..
Well just when you think peace and harmony have spread through out the land people like Gaucho come around. A total asshole, but I can't help but be strangely attracted to him..I think I need a shrink! I'm the real deal baby! But you say wahtever you want..I don't give a fuck.

Lester: The jobs going great!! I still don't think I will be able to make it to New Orleans though. I know how disapointed you are, try to move on with your life's for the best.

St Al: It's good to see you around here..hopefully we can chat again soon.

Well folks..see y'all later..I'm off to see the wizard

Name: Geena

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 19:31:38

Hey, what happening in here? everyone's on edge, i've never seen so many "F" words flying back and forth to one another. Chill everyone, it's just the internet!

And I see Shaman is still pissing off some of you in here. I'm telling you if you ignore this Shaman dude, he'll go away. If you continue to respond, he'll just acquire more fuel to shoot his mouth off. Forgive him, he knows not of what he speaks and nor does he know how to use correct biblical verbiage.

Shelly: Ahh...I never said I wanted to meet your cousin, but if his name is Martin, then, well, maybe......No, i can't do it. We'll speak privately, ok?

TheStranger: What is a kerplotkin? Have you been hitting the craps tables again in Vegas again?

RubyBaby: making love to aliens? Ah much pumpkin pie did you have? Well, if the alien looks like David Bowie, I would honestly have to say YES, I have thought about it!

DrMu: Get Laura Nyro's double CD set "Best of Laura Nyro/Stoned Soul Picnic. I'm listening to it right now, there's a lot of her dark moody songs on it. Midnight Blue was sung by Melissa Manchester and Laura did Mr. Blue.

Fezo: John Fogarty's brother Tom died in the early to mid 80's. I remember reading about it in Billboard at the time. Which other member of CCR died after that? I think most of the Irish settled in New York and then migrated over to Boston. We do after all have the biggest Irish populated communities which also include the famous and not so famous politicians and police officers.

YGK: Sorry, we'll have to wait until Spring to sample those flavor crystals. My trip has been re-routed to Connecticut, and I'll only be there for a few hours. I'm not sure what part of Brooklyn my aunt lives in, but I'm almost certain it's situated in an area where there are a lot of italian speaking people, since she doesn't speak english very well. Anyway, I hope your private tour offer still stands in the Spring!

GK John: Welcome! I hope you have your vulcanized rubber thermasuit on, it's going to be a bumpy ride!

Lester: count me out of the 20 something crowd, way out!

Gino: who are you?

Michael Packard: I want my own song!

Schemin' Mimi: I agree with you on your Doors theory, never really cared for little Jimmy's childish antics, nor Ray "I'm stuck in the 60's" Manzarek's annoying carnival drone. Some of his lyrics are okay, while the rest are the product of a drug induced/manic depressive mind.

4 days without a cigarette, don't fuck with me!

Name: Mitch
Due in 99

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 18:42:39

Shaman, What is it with you? D+W have been working on this project since the Art Crimes Tour in the Summer of 96. I know they take their time and Walter sometimes is MIA , but i`m sure it will be out for next Xmas, and I hope no one gets it for you as a gift.

Name: para el "Gaucho"
no soy de Bolivia, gracias a Dios!

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 18:30:14

"Gaucho": TU eres la puta, bruja! Si, hablo espanol, tonta! Y solamente una puerca blasfema de otras personas tan mucho! Fuera la Gauchita!

Name: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!LESTER THE NIGHTFLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 14:06:59


Josie- hows the night shift working out for u?
I hope your making lots of money, u have a car to pay for now, maybe u could drive that rust bucket down to orleans!

Clas-no offense, I dont mean to imply that your gay, I could only read every other word gaucho wrote anyway, he writes like he fucks, SLOW AND SLOPPY!

AL-this is a record 2 post on the gb in as many days, u must have missed us. who won the contest? will i see u in new orleans.

Well since Gaucho is back from the dead maybe someone else will reappear like dragon or rigs or the original lester or james remember that putz! Anyway reporting from the port-a-toliet inside my $5 a month white trash trailer park GOODNIGHT BATON ROUGE!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Shaman
Where you hear the ugly truth

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 13:53:28

Dylan's kid, David Crosby's kid, etc. have put out some decent music. You may wish to track Becker-Fagen progeny for Son of Steely Dan output. That's more likely than another CD of original Steely Dan. Because those 2 guys are rocking their rockers on the front porch, flat out finished. Squeezed out. Burned dry. Wheezed.

And who is this Bolivian person trying to put new life in this board. He is undoing all my good work. Begone, Third Worlder. Dig yourself a new outhouse.

Name: GK John

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 13:15:16

Hail Fellow DanFans!
Go easy on me folks... It's my first time!
I've OD'ing on SD Gold for the past few weeks when it occurred to me that I've never seen the lyrics to "Century's End" or "True Companion" published anywhere on the net. Strange, no?

I've been a fan since "Thrill" (I was very young at the time) and I get a kick at seeing The Dan's influence spread throughout the web. I never would have guessed that DF & WB would get to be so popular and that there might be folks out there, like me, who follow them so ardently.

Can anyone help with those two songs or should I try to get them posted myself?

Name: the jok-aaaaah
back from gloucester,va

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 12:11:52

i don't think we gotta mistreat the shaman - we'll just wave our new SD CDs in the air (maybe not this Xmas, but definitely) next Xmas, and he'll be laughing out the other side of his headgear then. if he has enough ritalin to survive until then.

yeah, went to my first funeral yesterday: i took the prescribed roadgear for it, have no fear: it's all about the alpha and omega: the CBAT - then GAUCHO, baby, for seeing old friends get on with their dirt naps. sigh. at least it was a gorgeous day.


Name: SD WebDrone

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 07:19:49

The Official site was indeed down for about 36 hrs. It's back up now. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Name: Chewy

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 06:27:44

Now that Gaucho is back, perhaps we can use the power of all-beef bologna to summon Kinky out of hiding. If we then add Clas and stir, that would complete the trivalent bond and restore this Guestbook to its former glory.

Oh. And can someone please kick Shaman in his virtual sack?

Name: StAlphonzo

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 06:01:39

Yo! Seems the Official Dan site is down? What's up with that? Getting a few e-mails already asking if I know why, and I don't. Ran a WHOIS on the web site and it came back saying the domain status was "on hold." Hmmm....

Web Drone, where are you?

Gaucho: Welcome back you old arrogant fuck! Still living in the third world I see....snicker


Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Thursday, December 3, 1998 at 00:58:36

GAUCHO PINGA PRETA : Uhm... we're suposed to be civilized people now, fuckhead. But I am DAMM glad to see you're back, you stupid motherfucker!

Why do never email me? The dog is fine, his lying behind my back here on the job, the cat is almost dead, my wife is still my wife, my son is bummin' around, thinking he's gonna be a musician, Dr Mu didn't get any Nobel Prize this year, so you can still call him the Fly in the Great Lion's ass.

You got to tell me how things are going Bolivia! Email me gangster.

Fezo, Zeke, Midnite etc - thanks for the response.

Schwinn - yeah, that would be great! Both things.

RubyBaby - no, I said "radge". :) It's a scottish word that can mean anything.

Dr Mu - so, fuckhead, why did you help me then?

Name: Gaucho

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 23:33:59





Name: Gaucho
Location: Pinga, Negra Entuculo
Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 23:20:55

StAl. The indent should only be a couple of pixels, you stupid fuck.


Name: Gaucho (The real and only mother fucker)
Location: Dare, FU WORLD
Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 23:16:24

StAl. It's good to be back, if only momentarily. I still owe you. I don't forget.

Oleander, I still think you're a stupid BITCH, even if Clas likes you. You should try your whole hand!

Josie, You're the fake one, aren't you.



"Se llamaba Inmaculada aquella PUTA, ....." KNOWWHATIAMTALKINGABOUT.

I want your share of the Doritos. Your beer is ours.

Fuck you also.


Name: Lester the Nightfly
Location: st. pete, fl usa
Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 21:08:55

Well Ladies thanx for all the replys so far to my yahoo mailbox!

I always wanted to marry a Female Danfan so keep those marriage proposals coming! Please no more nude photos!

Clas- chill out man, smoke some more of that herb!

How many twentysomethings do we have in here now?
I'm also in my twenties and have no friends my age whos into SD!
We r a very rare breed, I find as I talk to the other x-ers in here that we have alot of other things in common also like collecting those concert stubs, cuervo gold and fine columbian.
So lets make tonight a wonderful thing and peace out homies!


Name: Schwinn

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 19:57:15

Clas: Don't you dare scrap the project! It's been a real challenge "looping" the bed of my particular composition but thanks to Percodan Scrabble, the doors to the studio are opening faster than Jim Morrison's fly.

BTW: Friday night I will be attending the 8th Annual KGSR Anniversary Party at the Austin City Limit's sound stage on the beautiful University of Texas campus. Who will be playing, pray tell?

Bruce Hornsby**
Lucinda Williams
Patti Griffith
Lyle Lovett
Robert Earl Keene
Etc., etc., etc...

**Clas: I will be hanging at the mixing board with engineer extraordinaire, Bill Johnston, and will secure you an off-the-board DAT clone of your favorite big piano player, ok? Now please stop irritating all these nice people...

Is that Glade I Smell?


Name: JosieDanFan
he's a crowd pleasing man

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 18:28:55

Hello Fellow Dan fans!!
I had a Dan moment the other night while at work..I work overnights at a superstore and since there are no customers to offend, most of the younger males there turn on heavy metal and such, which isn't my favorite, but I don't really mind. I was in the back, and I had to come up to the front of the store (where the stereos are) as I was walking I could hear the heavy drums and whining of the electric guitar of some metal song which I couldn't tell you the name of. Then, I could here the radio changing that strange sound it makes when you are going from station to station. It finally stops and my ears were filled with the ever so pleasing sounds of *The Fez*. I walked over there to see who had changed one was there. No one was around, no doors where around for anyone to duck through, Nothing but me and Steely. It was a sweet moment indeed.

Babylon Sister: He's 26. Most of his friends are older though. I don't know what age range you are looking for.

Cepper: The only advice I can give you about the GB is..don't take anything too personally, other than that just about anything goes. Most of my friends have never heard of Steely, until of course I came along and spread the word about how truly awesome they are, but I have recruited only one of my friends, and we are much closer now. It's pretty cool. I forgot to mention..*Time Out Of Mind* is one of my more cherished Dan songs. When it comes on, I can't help but sings along or at least tap my foot or bob my head.
Well folks..that's it from this end..see ya!

Name: Michael C. Packard
Location: Foggy Night In The Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 16:32:26

Howdy DanFanGangLand!!!!

Another despicable "Dan Moment" the other night while I was receiving a haircut at "Gay Gary's" salon, which is located in his home. Yeah, I disagree with his lifestyle since I have always been totally hetero, but "Gary's Business" is His Business.

Okay, the story-----a small Chihuahua dog was having a hard time breathing when I went over for the lock cut----a notoriously beautiful 25 year-old diva named "Magda" was present. One couldn't help but notice the silk vest-type (with tails) light coat (or, whatever) she was wearing.

We started talking about education, and I had brought along my old SD "boot" of 1974----"Live At The Record Plant" to play while Gary cut my hair. Magda was sitting on the sofa behind me, while I could see her in the mirror. She took off the coat to reveal a metallic mini-short, and very tight kinda one-piece gold outfit which showed all of her outlines. Gorgeous, and well shaped, as most of the GB Steely Dan Divas are!!!

Gary said, "Girl, Your Body Looks So Great!!" And, well, very frankly, she looked very HOT, as "Any Major Dude" with Royce Jones on vocals was playing. She said, I haven't heard that version of Steely Dan-----well, "ol' Uncle Mike" here said, "just wait, there's much more. "

We proceeded to listen to the complete set climaxing with "My Old School". Gary seemed perturbed my attention was directed towards this most beautiful woman who said she "has more hours than a Ph D." Well, I didn't harp upon my educational experiences, and just kept on looking, singing, staring, and laughing----as the beer continued to flow. Damn, what a horrendous haircut Gary gave me.

But, meeting a young woman who loves the Dan's music is just about "Heaven" when you get older. In fact, meeting and loving any woman of any age who loves their music is very special to me.

All I could think of before leaving was a quote from Walter Becker and Donald Fagen's song, "Josie"----" . . .We're gonna lay down the law and break it when Josie comes home . . ."

Thinking of Magda, Gary, and the whole experience----it seems as if some of you are upset about this character who could care less about the album, or when it comes out. Hell, any of us who have been 25+ year DanFans have ALWAYS been waiting for the next fucking album to come out-----but, listening to "Caves Of Altamira"; "Night-By-Night"; "Razor Boy"; "Don't Take Me Alive"; as well as damn near " . . .everything you did, baby" from the Dan, makes life worth living!!!!

Magda listened to the set another time with me, Gary was somehow "missing" for the 50 minute set.


; )

Name: Shaman
No more fairy tales

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 15:41:23

CD Salesman,
Doesn't matter. You can't affect the cosmic truth, for when you announced Steely Dan was through you were an oracle, touched by the spirit. Now you are a chump. But I forgive you. That's part of my job. Come home. There's no Donner, no Blitzen, no Dopey, no Sleepy, no Steely Dan.

Name: CD Salesman
make up my mind

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 15:20:57

Shaman: "but I'm the great CD salesman. Why do you laugh?
Isn't my word gospel? You believed me when I told you Steely Dan was over! I was wrong, there will be a new one".
Santa's not going to like you.

Name: Shaman
You people are killing me

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 14:34:52

'New Steely Dan CD out for xmas'? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Let me guess. It will be a 2-disk set, right? Ha ha ha, etc.

I suppose Elvis will do a guest vocal. Hee hee hee hee hee.

Name: Babylon Sister
it occured to me........

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 13:40:30


Soak it in like golden sunshine?? You meant GOLDEN SHOWER, didn't you? Just an observation.............

Name: CD Salesman
here at the store

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 13:38:32

Shaman: Hey dude, Mozart is over. The dude is dead. He won't be touring this year. His music is old and his prime is over. Forget about it and move on. We do have a group named Steely Dan who's CD will be out for xmas. If you want it I'll tell Santa. He knows that you've been naughty on this GB so don't hold your breath. OK

Name: Babylon Sister
In TODD RUNDGREN Heaven...........

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 13:35:43

Thanks again, Schemin' Mimi,
I just caught Todd on the rebroadcast of "The Daily Show", and I'm happy to tell you, Ruby, that Todd got 5 OUT OF 5 questions!!! You GO, boy!! I have to say, he is one tree I'd LOVE to climb!!

I remember about your brother in La Jolla. The friends could be interesting. What's your brother's age?

Gotta rewind the tape, kids.......

Name: Shaman
There's no Easter Bunny either

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 13:27:12

If a fan loves the music of Mozart, that is healthy and can even aid digestion. But if a fan expects Mozart to write more concertos, that fan is due for disappointment. I expect most of you are intelligent enough to get the point. As for your revulsion with my message, I soak it in like golden sunshine, for this is my mission. I am here to prepare you for the reality you already live in -- a reality with no new Steely Dan material. Learn the message -- be sane little boys and girls and stop waiting for Santa Claus.

Name: Babylon Sister
Not while TODD is on!!
Location: Beautiful San Diego, Ca.,
Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 10:50:53

Hi Guys!!!

Thanks, I will e-mail you shortly!

Schemin' Mimi--
Thanks for telling me about TODD!! The lord is with me, as I have today off (means I got to read your posting this A.M., in time....), and the Daily Show will be repeated this afternoon at 1 P.M.!! I can't thank you ENOUGH!!!!!!!! Love Ya, sweetie!

See above, perhaps you too can catch the rebroadcast also. Let's all compare notes!

Bye, Y'all!!

Name: Cepper

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 10:20:46

Thanks for the quasi-support Josie.
I'm a newbie here and just got around to reading some older posts. Is there anything I should know other than the obvious, "Don't pay attention to Shaman"? Also, good to see other twenty-somethings here (Josie, Eviva, Debra, more?). Most of my friends haven't ever heard of Steely Dan *sigh*.

Name: fezo
a sports question, cool

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 09:58:32

Ruby: Refrigirator, aka William Perry, played for the Bears and then, later, the Eagles. He retired a while back

Name: Ruby MacBaby
be@m me up...

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 09:24:50

I can't believe I missed the Daily Show with Todd Rundgren!!
Waaahhhhhh! How did he do on the 5 questions?

Has anyone here noticed that the women guests usually get a better score on the questions?

Clas: I got the 2cds. Let's figure out which songs you don't have, and I'll tape 'em and send them with your Christmas stuff. And you said you were a "fridge." That means refrigerator to us. Refrigerator = a big, cold box with food (or not); a certain football player.

Someone/Anyone: Who knows what team The Refrigerator's on? Does he even play anymore?

I think bluegrass has some Scottish origins. They're not just all bagpipes. Those long ballads are a Hieland speciality.

Michael Packard: I'll think of you when I hear "Oh Michael, Oh Jesus..." Love us till we run for cover!


Name: shelly
after a six-day turkey bender

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 08:36:42

Clas: Much american folk music (to the biased irish me!) has celtic roots.

Josie: how are the pussycats, anyway?

Geena: I lost your phone number (have been away, coincidentally, in ireland since october). If you still want to meet my hubba hubba cousin, call me and we'll set it up.

Name: Zeke
goin' up to the spirit in the sky

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 08:19:37

Clas: Funny you should mention Hornsby and bluegrass. This year I'm planning a trip to the bluegrass festival in Telluride CO.
A partial list of acts include Bruce "and his piano".

To anyone going to the Jazz Fess '99, check the web site for the latest bands. Looks like the Feat is penciled in. C'mon Walt,
make the call to Quint Davis, it's a great gig.

Minah, did you get the email?

Gumbo weather is here.

Name: DrMu
take a left at the Rio Grande

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 08:14:06

Eviva: Congrats! I saw mine and her Linda Ronstadt doe-like eyes and her smiling face over 11 years ago. We said hello in the halls for about a month before helping to proctor a test. I saw her name, looked her up...we talked for 3 hours on the phone and the rest is history.

Clas: I guess you've just proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you don't need my help in order to do that.

audi and out.

Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 07:01:11

Clas....I live in Virginia too and a lot of the dulcimer and fiddle music heard in the mountains of Virginia, North Carolina and Tennessee is a kind of Irish/bluegrass hybrid....I guess a lot of those folks took their original music and it sort of morphed over the generations the way that music tends to do. There's an annual fiddler's convention in Galax, Virginia that's primarily bluegrass and another get together in Cosby, Tennessee that features a good mix of Irish and bluegrass. These mountains are full of good music!

Eviva....I met my love a year ago this month in the bookstore that she works in....I was checking out the computer "bargain books" that were on sale and with her being the stores computer nerd (but what a lovely one!) she came over to help me and I swear, when our eyes met it was like electricity! I'd never believed in love at first site until then....the look in her eyes and the smile on her face will be burned into my minds eye for as long as I live. Congrats on your pending nuptuals too! Have you guys set a date yet? We want to wait until it's warm enough to so something but we haven't figured out just what yet.

and we are planning on eloping!! *hehehe*

Name: fezo

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 05:56:47

Clas: Most of the Irish which settled in Virginia filtered up the Shenadoah Valley in the western portion of the state (where I grew up). I'm not aware of any of these settlers bringing with them any strong native, musical tradition which Hornsby might have picked up on. All I ever heard growing up was Nugent.

The more musically cool kids were listening to bluegrass; a taste I haven't acquired until the last couple of years. Any musicologists out there know the ethnic roots of bluegrass? I don't. Sometimes I hear a tinge of bluegrass in some of Hornsby's stuff.

So Clas, are they doing a movie of Ciderhouse? It's now a play over here but I hadn't heard about the movie.

Name: JosieDanFan
use tact, poise and reason..

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 04:24:15

Hello fellow Dan fans!
All this love talk is kinda makin' me lonesome. But then again, I'm free to do who and what I want (safely of course!!) and I'm also young..I got time. But it's so sweet listening to all of your stories about how you met your me hope.

Michael C. Packard: You are talking to/about another Josie right?
that for almost every Dan song.

Clas: loved the joke!

Cepper: I agree, but if I start thinking about it, I can say

Babylon Sister: My brother lives in La Jolla,( I think I told you about him in chat) but he's got a girlfriend. I'm sure he's got some great friends though..
Well I must go. Talk to y'all later.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 02:22:38

RubyBaby; did you get two CD's and 20 songs with Spirit Trail? I got only one Cd and 17 songs.

Oleander or/and other Virginia-folks: Hornsby often has a touch of Irish folkmusic in his music (maybe more than a touch). I wonder if the Virginia-folkmusic origins from Ireland?

StAl; I got the perfect final question for the contest:

What was the Swedish journalist Måns Ivarsson, the newspaper Expressen, afraid of, when he was going to interview Walter Becker when Becker was out promoting 11tow?

I promise, I don't know the answer.

Howdy Folks

Name: Clas
@ work, alienated

Date: Wednesday, December 2, 1998 at 00:52:46

I said I am a fucking radge. That means that I am a fucking zombie right now. If I said that Dr Mu is a fucking radge I would mean that he's a fucking lier and that he has discredit me. If I said that Fagen is a fucking radge I would mean that Fagen is a fucking good composer, if I said that etc etc...

Name: Schemin' Mimi

Date: Tuesday, December 1, 1998 at 20:38:48

Babylon Sister, I certainly hope you watched The Daily Show tonight. Your love onion Todd R. was the guest.

Name: GirlFred

Date: Tuesday, December 1, 1998 at 20:16:44

frustrated server. I don't know why you are having problems.
but I bet Shaman will take credit.

hold the mustard

Name: frustrated surfer

Date: Tuesday, December 1, 1998 at 13:27:19

Is anyone else having trouble getting The Official Site? I keep getting "domain does not exist". What gives??!

Name: Cepper

Date: Tuesday, December 1, 1998 at 12:12:25

Hey, how come "Time out of Mind" gets no respect? I think it belongs on at least one of the "best of" cd's.
Also, SD didn't charge Tariq & Gunns enough for stealing Black Cow. They would be nothing without that kick-a$$ beat.

Name: Chris Sigetti
Location: Naugatuck, CT
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 1998 at 11:57:45

I read somewhere that Steely Dan was "the most lyrically challenging band ever". I dunno 'bout that, I just think they kick ass.

Name: peg

Date: Tuesday, December 1, 1998 at 10:48:18

Babylon Sister: yeah, I do, but he's married. Email me.


Date: Tuesday, December 1, 1998 at 08:34:22

you're fucking what?

Name: Clas

Date: Tuesday, December 1, 1998 at 07:41:54

ygk - well, let's say we skip the whole idea, I've lost the gaist. I'm a fucking fridge right now. Peace.

Name: Clas
at work

Date: Tuesday, December 1, 1998 at 06:56:04

Q: What's the difference between a bull and a symphony orchestra?

A: The bull has the horns in front and the ass in the back.

Name: YGK

Date: Tuesday, December 1, 1998 at 06:22:11

Clas: Please e-mail me your address again...

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Tuesday, December 1, 1998 at 04:43:00

DOORS, they were very good. I saw them in Stockholm. As a teenager I was fascinated by the way the organplayer replaced the bassplayer with his left hand. "This is the End", "Light my Fire" are forever etched upon my mind.

Name: Clas
@ work, sit here even sing

Date: Tuesday, December 1, 1998 at 00:52:44

Fezo - Lasse Hallström (My life as a dog, What's eating Gilbert Grape, etc) is doing the Ciderhouse Rules.

Roy Scam - got the brochures? Very fancy. Very fancy prieces too.

YGK - ?

Schwinn - shall I put the project in the toilet?

Oleander - the word "semester" in Sweden means vacation.

Ruby - thanx for information.

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