SIS Archives -- December 1999


Name: DrMu
jelly rollover

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 22:42:31
Comments:
forgot to turn off the ol' iMac will huddling with my one and only - rolled over and we're at 1/1/00...kind of surreal to finally see it.

Got the last great musical opus of 90s in my mailbox this afternoon!! What a wonderful quilt you have put together, JW! Artists: magnifico!! An incredible array of talents and diverse sounds – all great! …and many play numerous instruments with great alacrity ala Steve Wonder or Paul McCartney!! It is certainly a humbling pleasure to know you all even virtually. I’ve almost forgotten about that new Dan song!

Clas wins the Dan soundscape award. Great musicianship. Kudos to your son – beautiful tone on the guitar. The engineering and production are absolutely world class!! I can’t believe that’s drum *programming* – so damn lively while maintaining that tight groove! You’ve really captured an essence heard in the Gaucho/Nightfly days.

YGK: You have an incredible gift for composition and arrangement! Model Prisoner - love the organ and the lively vocals. It’s got a real Michael Franks flavor – except East Coast with the drive and grit. A Zingg-like guitar solo for sure!! WUNDerground is a real knockout…a splash of Royal Scam funk and jazz and a Led Zep-type theme driving the onset… funny too. When the guitar solo morphed into the sax, I just about fell out of my easy chair! If you and Clas could ever get together in the studio without killing each other, the results would be astounding!

JW: Masterful smooth LA jazzz. Much better than a large majority of the stuff I heard driving down the 105 a few years ago. Nice integration of some complex keyboard runs. Wow, and the flute! What can’t you play superbly? **applause**

Mr. Chow: Expansive aural wall. All the keyboard virtuosity on the compilation. A lot of nice touches…Really moves along.

Roy: You hookmaker you...man what a groove! We’ll all wake up with party feet! your wit shines through as on your posts!

David: Another one man band! Nicely layered, balanced and fun sound. You’ve got a real nice vocal style – like Paul Barrere of Little Feat…Is that a slide? Awesome. Hey Zeke – here’s your man!

Hutch: Excellent complex syncopated percussive rhythms. Lyrical guitar voicings – man this is great stuff! Whoa – that was some channel switch. This has a nice Metheny feel.

Schwinn: You’ve got a real jazzed up Austin sound. I think you all would throw Fastball a few curves – tight sound and excellent compositions and a little butt kicking thrown in for the chorus on Hollywood.

F#: Another Metheny sound at first with Prince and Al DiMeola thrown in for good measure. Nice interaction with the drums – absolutely scorching runs!

RixHex56: I hear some Allman Bros….maybe a little Neil Young. Another rock guitar god on the compilation!

Midnight Cruiser: really really excellent guitar style and technique. Very lyrical. You’ve got a super feel for emphasis and rhythm…another master!


Name: JWMalibu
www.boards.com

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 20:24:31
Comments:
Happy New Millenium One & All!!!

It's 8:00 PM out on the West Coast ~ I'm gonna' turn in early to get up at 5:30 AM and go snowboarding, provided all hell hasn't broken loose. Nothing like blazing down a steep mountain with "Alive in America" cranking on the Walkman to bring in the new year/century/millenium!

I'm really glad you guys & gals are enjoying "Technicolor Motorhome"; it was a labor of love. Major props to the incredible composer/musicians within our ranks ~ it makes producing a great album a piece 'o cake. It's amazing how the album fits together like a puzzle...keep it in your CD slots; the album definitely grows on ya'! The US Mail is a strange beast; a CD got to Washington, DC in ONE DAY! I have a feeling a LOT of CDs are going to hit you guys on Monday. Please, let me know if anyone has a problem with their copy. I ordered four extra just in case...

Finally, a major salute to those of you burning the midnight oil right now to make sure 2000 doesn't become 1900! Our technies are at the office now as well...YGK & Edd ~ you 'da man!

"..doin' what I can, as a man" ~ "Model Prisoner" kicks ass! Can't get that song outa' my head, Malc!

A Y2K Compliant JDubs


Name: ygk
..

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 19:49:04
Comments:
edd: what part of the country are you?

Name: Midnite Cruiser
Home At Last!

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 19:45:21
Comments:
Good to be back home before the real mayhem starts....the fireplace is stoked and so are we....Gonna raise up a glass to all you guys and gals looking out for us at Midnight! Aretha's wailin' and we be ready!!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

only 365 days, 1 hour, 15 minutes 'til the new millenium!!!


Name: Edd


Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 19:12:21
Comments:
Yes, things look good from my post also...

Name: YGK
YourGoldMillenium
Location: New York, NY
Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 18:00:14
Comments:
....am watching the network world from the command center here....no problems so far...

best wishes to everyone here on the GB, and thanx again, JWMalibu for your sumpremely generous and professional efforts...

see in in the first quarter of '00

ygk


Name: OMIO
otr

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 16:54:59
Comments:
Technicolor Motorhome arrived.. Just as I suspected.. It's better than most of what's on the radio.. Well done Everyone!
Oleander: Yours truly was one of the first jazz DJs on KPOO.. While it was still on the pier.. KPFA went through a bunch of wierd mangement from hell stuff this past year.. I guess they'll
be OK.. Berkeleyites are used to chaos..
Just watched midnight in the UK.. 15 minutes of solid fireworks..
Ain't this just Great?!

Name: moray eel
On The Shore

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 15:15:06
Comments:
So "The Big Party" in Seattle has been cancelled out of fear. Handgun sales are surely booming in The Rainy City. Listen closely...I think we can hear the sound of the Campbell Soup Company and the NRA high-fiveing in the Great Northwest.

Here in Chicago, reporters asked Mayor Daley if he was going to cancel the city's millenium celebration.

His response, "Cancel New Year's? Sure, why not? While we're at it let's cancel Christmas too."

I know that when I watch that glorious, golden sunrise over the near frozen waters of Lake Michigan tomorrow -- terrorist attacks, computer malfunctions, and automatic teller machines will be the furthest thing from my mind.

m.e.


Name: Hank Silvers
hanksilvers@dog.com
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 13:47:49
Comments:
Miz Ducky: I couldn't put it better. Happy Century's End to everyone.

JWMalibu: My hat's off to you, mate. Kudos to all involved. Goes to show there are a lot of talented people who hang around here.

BTW, here's Sarah Knauss's story, from her hometown newspaper (and mine):
http://www.mcall.com/news/top/47408.htm


Name: tom
greatful

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 13:23:59
Comments:
greatful - "yeah" (no, not "yeah baby yeah"!)

I bought a paper today with the intention of time capsuling it to look back on ten years gone (or even tommorrow)

Hutch - your sentiments were wonderful and heartwarming and Mr Ducky's sentiments on your's were as well - CHSIBIOT

Dr Mu - loved the D Awards terrorist story! thanks for sharing - God does have a wonderful sense of humor

Mr Ducky - insightful comments on your local seattle situation - that jambalaya sounds great, I've actually (and a little ironically) decided to going ice skating at midnight down here in New Orleans, no lie.

thanks St Al for the GB and all you warm and intruiging Danites

I just won a tight auction on e-bay for a steal on an audiophile cd player, so what a great way to ring the new one in than with 2vN, an armchair and aural treat

Happy New Years to all

one of these, surely will screen out the sorrow
but where are you tommorrow?


Name: hoops
hoops

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 13:01:25
Comments:
Happy Dan2KvN everyone...see you in the upcoming year.

Name: Miz Ducky
Roll out the bones and raise up your pitcher

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 12:42:14
Comments:
Pre-millenial greetings from beautiful fog-bound Seattle, the one major burg in the USA to have cancelled its public New Year's Eve gathering--due to our illustrious cojone-challenged, post-WTO-traumatic-stress-syndrome-victim of a mayor getting spooked by an arrest at a Canadian border crossing ... but I'm not bitter. I mean, it's not like I would have gone anywhere near that Amateur Hour zoo that would have cropped up at the base of the Space Needle in the first place.

Naw, I've got a much nicer plan. I've got a big batch of jambalaya cooking in the oven, and a fifth of Wild Turkey 101 resting on the kitchen counter, destined for a party later in the evening at the abode of Ms. Jackofdays (of alt.music.steely-dan fame).

Before I forget, I want to add all my best New Years wishes to the chorus. Here's to all frequenters of the GB--past, present, and future--long may you rock! Here's to the illustrious proprietor of this virtual space, the noble StAlphonso--groove on, m'man!

And last but by no means least: Mr. Donald Fagen and Mr. Walter Becker--sirs! For all the joy, delight, laughter, illuminations, grooves, and other assorted musical orgasms you have brought me over the years, and those still to come, blessings! You guys are two of those few creative geniuses I turn to whenever I begin to wonder if the world has indeed become fucked up beyond recognition, to be reassured that, well, yeah, the world may indeed be FUBAR, but there's at least a few folks out there who redeem it for me! Ride on, dudes! Here's to the day I might finally get to tell you this in person!

(Raising virtual tumbler of Wild Turkey 101 straight up): L'Chaim!

/Miz Ducky
waxing sentimental as she runs to stir the jambalaya


Name: David in the Florida Room
dmoore113@aol.com

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 12:25:17
Comments:
Hey Now! Just got my GB CD in the Mail and Put it right on.
Wow,What an honor to be included with such a fine group of Musicians!
JWMalibu- Nice Job Johnny Boy...a lot of work.(been there, done that)
A Special Happy New Year to all The GB residents..old and new.
We have a lot to look forward to in the coming months...TAN, Tours,etc.
All of you posters provide Ideas for songs with your Words...keep it up.


Safe Trips everyone, David


Name: Midnite Cruiser
MidniteCruiser@hotmail.com

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 12:12:43
Comments:
Hutch....very well put. As a longtime poster/lurker here on the guestbook that was about as well expressed a sentiment as I've seen here. I'll be here with the wife, 3 hours south of you and 3 hours north of Oleander as we all bring it in together.

Edd....I think you'll have smooth sailing tonight but thanks to you and the thousands like you around the country for looking out for all of us this special New Year's Eve.

I had an offer to jam tonight with guys and gals from bands I've played in over the past 20 years tonight and as appealing as it sounded I've decided to spend a quiet evening at home with my wife, in front of the fireplace, toasting a saliente with a cold Killian's in the way only we can. I love you Shirl.

best wishes for a fast recovery for George Harrison and wife. George was stabbed repeatedly before his wife, after suffering a wound of her own, broke a lamp over the intruder's head to end the attack.

Peace and Love to you all....Please have a Safe and Happy New Year's celebration!

MC & Optimystic


Name: Hutch
a cup of kindness

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 10:32:03
Comments:
It has truly been a pleasure for me to be on this board these last few months. It's full of beautiful, intelligent people and I've had a great time! I can't wait to see all of our interpretations and preferences when 2vN comes out. The hive will surely come alive then!
So I'm hoping everyone has a great New Century. Here's to all the GBers (old and new).

And lift up your glasses to Walter Becker and Donald Fagen... one of the finest songwriting teams the world has ever produced!

Happy New Year to all!

Hutch


Name: DrMu
those who didn't deserve to se Century's End

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 10:24:25
Comments:
Just when you thought 1999 could not get any better or worse the final selections for the Darwin Awards are in!!! Thanks to those on the other side of the dateline for checking in. Glad things are AOK!

LIVING ON ZIONIST TIME

1999 Darwin Awards Winner
Confirmed True by Darwin

(5 September 1999, Jerusalem) The switch away from daylight savings time caused consternation among terrorist groups this year.

At precisely 5:30 Israel time on Sunday, two coordinated car bombs exploded in different cities, killing three terrorists who were transporting the bombs. It was initially believed that the devices had been detonated prematurely by klutzy amateurs. A closer look revealed the truth behind the untimely explosions.
Three days before, Israel had made a premature switch from daylight savings time to standard time in order to accommodate a week of Slihot, involving pre-sunrise prayers. Palestinians refused to "live on Zionist time." Two weeks of scheduling havoc ensued.

The bombs had been prepared in a Palestine-controlled area, and set on Daylight Savings time. The confused drivers had already switched to standard time. As a result, the cars were still en-route when the explosives detonated, delivering to the terrorists their well-deserved demise.
 

www.DarwinAwards.com © 1997 - 1999 Submitted by: Jacob Butcher and Dave Weintraub
Reference: Margot Dudkevitch of the Jerusalem Post, Ron Kampeas of the Associated Press


FATAL FOOTSIE

1999 Darwin Awards Runner-Up
Confirmed True by Darwin

(22 March 1999, Phnom Penh) Decades of armed strife has littered Cambodia with unexploded munitions and ordnance. Authorities warn citizens not to tamper with the devices.
Three friends recently spent an evening sharing drinks and exchanging insults at a local cafe in the southeastern province of Svay Rieng. Their companionable arguing continued for hours, until one man pulled out a 25-year-old unexploded anti-tank mine found in his backyard.

He tossed it under the table, and the three men began playing Russian roulette, each tossing down a drink and then stamping on the mine. The other villagers fled in terror.
Minutes later, the explosive detonated with a tremendous boom, killing the three men in the bar. "Their wives could not even find their flesh because the blast destroyed everything," the Rasmei Kampuchea newspaper reported.


Name: Edd


Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 10:15:30
Comments:
re: 100 year birthdays

I heard in this morning's news that the woman listed in the GBofWR as the world's oldest living person died today at 120, hours short of having been able to claim to have lived in 3 different centuries.


Name: tom
look out America

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 09:51:26
Comments:
KD & FANODAN - nice to know aussieland is a-ok

then again warning - you guys were the safehaven in "Black Friday", so don't rest assured west hemi kids, looks like we're sure for massive cat-o-stroph

Edd - yes reassuring your holding up the fort, I'll break out the horns and hooters for ya

Roy.Scam - you forgot "posting to the sd gb" in your 13 hour itineary. Care to rank these projects by priority?...

E-sharp - give your son the earlier versions as you upgrade, unless he has the better hifi

catching the grey men as they fall from the 14th floor


Name: KD
onhoops.com

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 09:21:27
Comments:
fuck...Muswellbrook rules

everything is fine, we're in 2000

I've been searching for the song...

things are going very well....


Name: tom
pretzeled but never logically

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 09:11:14
Comments:
hey F sharp!
(sorry can't finger the 9th root very well)

like your interp slant as well, yes I'd forgotted that Hilter's Olympics were the first telly broadcasts, so would fit the time, but how many tv's were really available to the general public back then and would this crowd (I still invision the scene in the festering jazz circles) be hanging around one?

our PL protagonist as a racist? ouch, that one certainly has a credible ring to it and spoils it from this end, how could you? Yes he has a Napoleanic complex, but I saw that as he can't measure up to his contemporaries so hence the offhand Napolean "haven't found the time" remark of self importance settles him.

As for the platform, I envised it a stage where one performs - and he as hipster but not quite that hip (as his friends let him know ("where did you get those shoes")). In this scene he gets his humiliating measure up not so sunny day in the sun

note the song uses a first line repeat motif very common in blues and folk settings for that time period (and still today)

enjoying the ongoing dialogue....

over a long time ago


Name: FANOFDAN
Raining & Windy
Location: DOWNUNDER, AUSTRALIA
Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 08:54:44
Comments:
Happy New Year to everybody!
It's almost 4.00am in the morning here and so far everything seems to be AOK as far as the Y2K bug that everyone is making such a fuss about.
Looks like fireworks seem to be the go everywhere tonight.
Watching all the broadcasts from around the world,starting in the South Pacific then onto New Zealand and then somewhere a bit closer to home,Sydney.
I hope you people get to see our part of our celebrations!

JW Malibu
Thankyou for your efforts and generosity in putting together the Technicolor Motorhome CD.I'll be keeping my eye out for the postman in the next week or so.

FOGHorn
Thanks for the MP3 of Cousin Dupree.
I know there seems to be a bit of controversy on how the song has been received so far,but the more I listen the more I like it.It has the groove and the swing,it has definite Fagen influences ie:- Karamakiad sound in some ways but then its got Beckers,drive and guitar input,there both individuals but together there Steely Dan.

I realize that not everyone is going to like the new one but I think its unfair to draw comparasions with their past records.
Why should the NEW ONE sound like anything from the past.
Did Katy Lied sound like CBAT,or Aja like Pretzel Logic.
NO!!!
WHY????
Because its Becker & Fagen!!!!Steely Dan!!! always striving to be different.

If the rest of the album is as refreshing as "Cousin Dupree" I'll be a happy FANOFDAN!!!!!

Happy New Year from DOWNUNDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Name: Roy.Scam
i.thought.the.millenium.ended.when.jordan.retired

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 08:53:09
Comments:
Let's see: Cure cancer, write the great American novel, get organized, get in shape, learn the Black Friday guitar solo. Shit! Only 13 hours left in the century. Must get busy.

So despite innumerable errors in judgement, it appears I'm going to actually see the end of this century. Why so much luck was directed at me , I have no idea. Anyway, thanks to Steely Dan and to this site and its Danizens for helping make this last 3 or so years less painful than most. As spiteful, erudite, humorous, learned, and talented a group as I could name. -- If Steely Dan becomes a Mega sensation and big business in the coming year and this guestbook becomes too frequented for lazy people to keep up with, well, I'll sort of miss the way it was back in the 1990's.

Edd, It's comforting to know that you'll be on Y2K watch tonight while I'm in search of pure hedonism. You can do double sensation and libation next year when the real Millenium turns.

Doc, let's start our own religion and go to the binary calendar; then we can have a Century's End every four years.

One last thing: 184 Americans turn 100 tomorrow. From my brief experience with old age, I have to acknowledge that these are some bad-ass , no-quitting motherfuckers. God bless them.

RS


Name: F#maj9
all we have are each other

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 08:37:27
Comments:
StevieDan: if you're a whole hemisphere ahead- does Dick Clark look any older to you?
Stranger: still waiting for mine [and still haven't heard CousinDP. sheeesh.] your sentiments, i'm sure, are appreciated by all contributors- also gave idea to expand participatory whackiness- a compilation of non-musical stuff? a cyber- literary/art/etc compilation for all things that could be put up on a compilation webpage. get out your digitizers. and after that, virtual groping. i mean a sculpture contest. have you read about these devices?
tom- free associations on your post as follows: first tv broadcast was A.Hitler at Games. pretzel logic? twisted corporal becomes body politic. traveling minstrel show- zeig heil, baby! everybody into the tent. this holy roller is very convincing. [cue Guido's presentation on the master race from Life is Beautiful. Que Bella] the man gave me the news- maybe a junk line to set up the rhyme. but the platform [well, in NYC you step *down* to the subway platform] refers to the shoes.
platforms for trains, platforms for shoes- and maybe storm trooper boots [platform politico] i said freely associating. put down the flame thrower and take two steps back. love your "circular tension with a present that's passing him by". nice line! the protagonist has a Napolean Complex and aspirations of killing a lot of people who make him feel smaller still. he's no hipster. he doesn't even have the right features for his master race. go figya. so how does one convince a major population that it is entitled to execute a moral imperative to execute?
with pretzel logic.
and,we share this gene pool. each and every one of us. heavy year-2000 sigh. [well, probably each and every one of us...]
Hey! my son is *finally* offering me back all the SD CDs he "borrowed" last year. i miss them. only, he wants to trade them for the new one as soon as i have it.
i'll need to think this over.
have a safe and wonderful night yooze guyz.
F

Name: DrMu
wrote it on the wall

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 08:35:54
Comments:
Tom: Indeed!...and you'll notice that December was the 10th month! (September = 7th, October = 8th, November = 9th) The Roman calendar originally had only 10 months! They just said the hell on the first 2 months of winter and hid in a dugout with supplies until it got warm again. January and February were added later.

Name: Q
FLAROOM

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 08:14:45
Comments:
what a coincidence- just got my Technicolor Motorhome.


JW Malibu is THE SUPERIOR HUMAN BEING !!!!!!!!!!

JW,thanks - I've got something coming back at ya.

Q


Name: Q
FLAROOM

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 08:10:33
Comments:
amphitheaters - what a concept !
with DTS perhaps???????????

break out the hats and hooters...

Q


Name: tom
hebrew, schemebrew

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 08:08:09
Comments:
Hey Dr Wu

The Hebrews actually used a lunar type calendar, based on the moon cycle and not the sun. That's why the Jewish Holy days and Easter (which is set off Passover) are never lining up with specific fixed solar Julian calendar dates - the Hebrew year was a bit shorter, I believe 360 days so we missed the damn mill by almost 29 years! (go ahead sliderulers and check my math)

Any TOm Robbins fan would enjoy the lunar end of things, I won't elab, but Still Life with Woodpecker indeed

Dr Mu, funny your rigs are bigger, damn looks like no Julie here,
but those sportcar boys have us both beat, or do they?

yes he looked so fine, upon that hill,
they say that he was loney, he's lonely still
those days are lost forever, over a long time ago, oh yeah


Name: DrMu
watching the odometer roll over

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 07:34:40
Comments:
Happy Fake Millenium Everyone!

So nice we get to do it twice!

Aside: Did you know the Hebrews did not use base 10? I'm pretty sure they used base 8 (as in 64 cubits or 8 to the second power - I'll have to double check the base 8 - don't think it was 4 and definitely not 2 - could be 12? no). Anyway 2000 would have no significance for them. Most of our math comes from the Babylonians, the Phoenicians, Egyptians, Isaac Newton and assorted French mathematicians with a propensity for gambling.

Julie: my rigs are bigger

See you on the other side...


Name: Edd
@ Century's End

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 06:14:17
Comments:
...just want to wish the GB'ers the best for the upcoming century.

I'll be spending "the moment" locked away in a computer lab watching a lot of consoles.


Name: tom
when black friday comes...

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 05:39:02
Comments:
who needs the hole?

kind of ironic if you fit the song to the latest millenium hoopla (today is a friday, righto?), then again the guy leaving has made a mint off a catastrophy. Gee maybe in today's twist he sells generators and dried food supplies ;-)

fave new New Orleans restuarant - Y2K-Pauls
I'll have the "trout armageddon outtahere"

fezo - I particularly loved the "dreary architecture of your soul" as well, what a blueprint

julie - need a cousin?

oleander - yes the ski waxing shows her independance, she probably has a good kicking style as well shall cousin D step any closer, no niave 'roller skater" here

and I'm hovering like a fly, waiting for the windshield on the freeway



Name: Julie
M
ca usa
Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 05:20:19
Comments:
wow cant belive i gust got in 5am and i gtrtat do it again tonight. but you bet i'm going to be waering Capris tonight and well my tops are always little, sorry.

So if walter is in socal tell him I 'll teach him that new dance

'nite

Julie manchino


Name: stevie dan
reflecting (against nature)2
singapore....raining
Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 00:14:26
Comments:
well it is already 4pm on New years eve......jus wanted to wish you all a gear fab sort of end to this crazy century's end
goodbye
becker,fagen
rock nroll,jazz,charlie parker, duke ellington, the mets,the Stones, the beatles, the korean war, racism, JFK, MLK, bobby kennedy, the yellow kid, bill burroughs, kerouac, ginsberg, tim russert, al gore, bill bradley, jerry brown, liberal politics, true conservative, barry goldwater, jimmy carter, carter field, Planet of the Apes, film noire, antonio carlos jobim, antonio banderas, sting, stevie wonder, quincy jones, seinfeld,twin peaks, the age of aquarius, good pot, world war II, robert mithcum, the roaring 20's, babe ruth, joltin joe, sinatra, north beach cappuccino, berkeley bookstores, st.petersburg sun, philly chesse steaks, the spectrum, the Plymouth Meeting Mall, the Massapequa Mall....Long Island, mid town, upstate for a cozy winter blizzard, kenny burrell, boston though I've never been there)...Cincinnati, rod serling, Bulworth, really cool things, the Invaders, Beatles 45's....steely Dan in Quad....good bootlegs from the pretzel logic tour, ken casey, that girl i roomed with in '89..., the girl i roomed with in '93 (who didn't know who world Party was or the Smiths) haircut 100 china crisis, 12 inch singles, especially when they had alternative re-mixes on them...the NY Public Library, my great-gradndad, lee Morgan....elenore roosevelt, elenore faga aka billie holiday, u2, the irish peac process.... the israeli peace process..., tropical thunderstorms, my little baby boy, Guiness Stout, message boards,,, did I miss any one
c u all next CENTURY-bye steveo'

Name: TheStranger
Riding the motorhome

Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 at 00:02:06
Comments:
Got home all bedraggled and beat, holiday blues beginning to sneak in. Then I open up this Technicolor Motorhome, slip it on the CD player and plop onto the couch, kind of steeling myself for amateur hour. And wham, I was blown away. The stuff is FINE, as in exquisite. I feel like you people have been secretly working behind my back, hiding talent. Every track shows artistry that is from someone who appreciates Steely Dan, but none of it is derivative. It stands alone as a sweet piece of work. It seems like a lot of work went into this. Not just artistry, but also organization. How did you get it all done? Who do we thank? Who paid for studio time and pressings and mailings and everything? And JWMalibu, how could you have consented to take on such a monumental task? It's all a surprise. A sweet one. For the very first time I see this gbook is for real, not virtual. These are real people with real talent. Thanks to all. What a wonderful gift.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE!!!!!


Name: DrMu
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 22:54:59
Comments:
Andy's takin' a stab at the lyrics for Cuz:
http://members.home.com/metzger/dan/2vn/dupree.htm

Ole: We've made bastardizing the French a national pasttime. I just heard Fagen singing Kulee the way Andy did:

KULEE BABA
My nom-de-vage is Mexuine (?)
I carry the proper papers
I seek the primal rhythms of the bush
I preserve great moments as they come
And sure this must be one
Brightly colored dancers on the screen
Are no more than a prelude to the ritual unfolding
No white man's eyes have ever seen
The cruel primeval rite that you're beholding

CHORUS:
Kulee Baba
Coming your way
Every Sunday
Live from nowhere
Satellite relay
Hell on Broadway

...


Name: Bodacious Cowgirl
lifeisgreat!

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 22:31:44
Comments:
Hi, and a pre Happy New Year to everyone! I want to thank JW not only for your hard work on the GB cd, I'm anxiously checking the mail for it, but also for your post re: Roland Kirk. I'm not too much of a jazz afficiondo, I like some of it, but mostly into rock/blues. After reading your post, went out and bought a Kirk cd, and am very delighted! The guy wails!!! And I don't think I will be able to listen to Jethro Tull again without yelling "Thief!!!". Franky--I've not seen the Royal Scam, I live @ S Jersey shore, few miles s of Atlantic City, so don't get up north that often. I saw on their website they are playing Garwood on the 15th, I might be in for a little road trip if I can find a hotel near there, its about a 2-3 hour ride from here.
BC

Name: oleander
please mr. postman

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 21:25:47
Comments:
... look and see, is there a cd in your bag for me?!?

jk--Great!! What do you mean "real"? I liked "waxing her knees" because it gave a real Lolita feel to the song (remember the toenail polish), but I hear "waxing her skis" now.... It gives a hint of the oh so capable of taking care of herself Cousin Janine. And Arkansas? That's topical for sure, but how about "keyboard man in a rock 'n' soul band," as in NY Rock & Soul Revue? (I know, I know, that's not what they say, but what a fit!) "Life is surely quid pro quo"--I'm howling. Damn, the thing isn't even OUT yet and I've already listened it to death.

fezo--agree on that line too! Not to worry. I'd recognize you anywhere.

the truth--yee-ha! More good news! Need it to balance out the hijacking, attack on the Harrisons, more disgruntled mass murderers--no foolin', it's a fucked up world.

BK--I'm so glad you asked! For lyrics go to St. Al's homepage (see above), and for chewing the fat over what they mean, go to http://home.earthlink.net/~oleander1/Index.htm

OMIO--Could you get KPOO? People's radio for SF? There was a guy there called the Autumn King of Rock & Roll who had an exclusively doo-wop show that was my absolute must show of the week. And KPFA had Low Rider Radio--doo wops AND the best dedications ever! Bend down a little--here's a kiss for New Year's.

Lars--me too! The only time I saw him he went from table to table by the stage and told people to stop smoking during the show. I love how he did "Don't Get Around Much Anymore."

Mu & Edd--As soon as I stop laughing at the Cuz lyrics you get me breathless again!! Edd, you sound positively punchy. PS--nom de voyage, the name travelers would take to stay incognito abroad.

Don't take--You are a kind, kind soul. That's me in the little top and tight capris.


Name: Miz Ducky
mizducky@drizzle.com

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 19:47:06
Comments:
My GB compilation CD arrived today too! I don't know what impresses me more--the groovy music on this CD or the speed of the U.S. Snail!

Seriously--this is some fabulous work, you guys--both the quality of the music, and of the production/packaging. Y'all should take a bow!

/Mam'zelle Canard
like, wow, man ...


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 14:54:46
Comments:
I found Technicolor Motorhome waiting for me when I got home, and it is just delightful! I'm listening to it for the first time now; you all are a most talented bunch of musicians.

Name: The truth
will set you free

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 14:41:26
Comments:
hello and please see www.amusementbusiness.com/latenews.asp -- "Steely Dan will tour amphitheatres in the summer"

hooray!


Name: fezo
gotanewdealforchristmas

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 14:10:47
Comments:
ever notice how much better music sounds after a week's absence? i was out in Studio City playing uncle and the only stuff i heard was from the Annie video i watched about 25 times. now i'm back in Virginia and with every disc in the player it's like i'm hearing it for the first time. everything is so clear and i'm picking up little bits i've never ever noticed before. in heavy rotation are "NYRSR", soundtrack for Grosse Point Blank, "Achtung Baby", and some Christmas stuff for which I would surely get flamed.

"the dreary architecture of your soul". that line alone is almost enough to make TNO worth it for me.

ole: sorry about the confusing email. i'm always forgetting that my name isn't in the from line.


Name: Midnite Cruiser
MidniteCruiser@hotmail.com

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 12:52:40
Comments:
A Christmas pic of Deacon Blues....the newest member of the family....he's 14 weeks old now and was 13 weeks at the time of the pic.

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6974/DeaconBlues.jpg

If I don't see you guys before Saturday I hope you all have a safe and Happy New Year!!!

MC & Optimystic


Name: haulin' cross
the crude

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 12:40:39
Comments:
in the big rigs

Name: tom
pretzled logic

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 11:56:28
Comments:
Pretzel logic a concept album

alot of the tracks have Parker's direct inference for sure:
PB, TWB, WAG, CF, MIYS

but I think alot of the tunes are period pieces and not directly tied to Charlie: RDLTN, NBN, AMD

the title track seems to be set in the era with words like "minstrel" and "phonograph", but then again "seen them on the tv" sorta sets that off, unless it's a later in life look backwards

I've always interpreted the view from one of the local hipsters, Bird's contemporary's pleas for meaning and substance and a longing for something lost

"stepped up on the platform" - time machine? sounds like Donald pulling the leg, I thought the platform signified his recalling when he was playing for his croonies - yet he's not quite accepted or measuring up here - "where did you get those shoes?"

anyway the neatest line

"well I've never met Napolean, but I plan to find the time"

could be his laid back comment on self significance,
like I'll meet him (an inherent impossibility) when I can get around to it (more important things fill this cat's agenda)

the pretzel logic part of it? perhaps the hipster is living in a past that he never quite measured up to, a circular tension with a present that's passing him by as well


Name: BK Barkley
clawson@midway.net
Location: Wichita, KS USA
Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 11:10:24
Comments:
Big "B" jest-a- stow'in away the time, (at work),
I like steely dan o'so much, though you could'a had
more lyrics. Am I miss'in something?



Name: BK Barkley
clawson@midway.net
Location: Wichita, KS USA
Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 11:10:23
Comments:
Big "B" jest-a- stow'in away the time, (at work),
I like steely dan o'so much, though you could'a had
more lyrics. Am I miss'in something?



Name: OMIO
otr

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 11:04:10
Comments:
Seasons Greetings Everyone..
KFOG gets to do occasional neat things because they pay the mundane dues the rest of the time..
The best stations in you could hear in SF weren't in SF..
KJAZ in Alameda was the best jazz station ever.. Nothing like watching the sunset above the Golden Gate with a little
"Mr. Magic" on the ray-dee-yo...
KTIM in San Rafael was simply the best free-form station that ever graced the airwave.. No Rules!!
KSAN was a bunch of drunks & junkies with waaay too much money & Star Attitude... Memories of Dusty Street barely able to read those Boones Farm pop wine commerercials...
Special Thanks to JW! Haven't got it yet, but I know it's on the way (right???)
Gee.. Donald & Walter think this place is entertaining?
They really need to get out more.. Lots more..
And On To The Next Century...

Name: Lars
-

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 10:10:47
Comments:
hoops-Your mail was full of "can´t help it" thats why I said ashamed. Im not american and ashamed was probably the wrong word. nice to know that there´s so many Vanfans!

oleander- you´re also into mose. nice! I like the older material best.

I think that 1999 has been a terrible year: Curtis Mayfield; Lester Bowie, Joe Willams, Art Farmer... and know this Harrisonthing. Let´s forget it.


Name: Edd


Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 10:10:18
Comments:
re: DruM
^^^^^^^^
Red Rum! Red Rum!!

Name: aja
Dancing away, no work today

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 10:08:40
Comments:
Mr. Chow-actually, I didn't want to comment individually on the songs because they're all works from the heart and soul and I didn't want to inadvertently slight anyone. Obviously some were more to my taste than others, but the overall effect is that this is a room of fine musicians! It's so good to hear original music-most of the popular bands here in San Diego do covers 'cause that's what most people want to hear-but there's nothing like hearing something completely new and letting it carry you away to another place.

tom-never been to a Danfest before myself. I'm just going to have some fun and revel in Dan worship!


aja


Name: jk
jk
Location: jk,
Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 10:04:40
Comments:
hope they mentioned jk

jk


Name: !
*

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 09:34:42
Comments:
but perhaps a bit too cynical. It might be hard to believe, but sometimes you just have to open up your mind to the possibilities. Just thought you might like to know. maybe I was wrong.

Name: aja
Guess what I got for New Year's?

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 09:21:32
Comments:
My "Technicolor Motorhome" arrived yesterday! All I can say is damn you guys are good! JWMalibu-brilliant! And you composed a beautiful tune to go along with it. To you and all the artists who contributed, I'm sending a big smile and an image of me dancing and grooving away to your tunes! To whoever thinks they're clever by posting TvN lyrics (other than "Cousin Dupree") eat your heart out while I listen to "Technicolor Motorhome"!


aja


Name: Or was is spelled
Geena?

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 09:21:22
Comments:
I don't remember.

Name: DrMu
*

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 09:18:45
Comments:
Yes, and some musicians will play a newly developed instument anagram to this nom de vage - the DruM

Name: How about Gina's party
in Jack of Speed?

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 09:15:16
Comments:
And the rightwinger?

Name: Edd


Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 09:10:12
Comments:
I have it on good authority the SPARS code will be modified from the expected "DDD" to "EDD"...


Name: Don't take me alive
I got some dynamite right here

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 09:01:59
Comments:
Sorry, but I can't say who I am, other than letting you know that in my job's capacity, I have been working rather closely with Don and Walter for the past six or seven months. I've known them for a couple of years now. About four months ago I happened to hear them mention this web site, this one right here, and said that I should check it out because it's somewhat interesting. Turns out of of them was noodling around at the computer one day, I forget now which one it was, and they came across you guys. They said they dug the analysis of their songs, a few which were eerily close to the truth, and they thought the attitude of the place was pretty cool.
The reason I even mention this is because I wanted to tell you in advance that there are a few veiled references to this place in Two Against Nature. I won't say where, I'll let you guys figure it out, but I can say they there are a couple of contributers to the guest book that they really dig, and it is those few people who will be "mentioned". They wanted to do more, but since so many of you have names that correspond to their previous songs, they felt that they couldn't make too many remarks about you without the uninitiated thinking they were merely retreading old material. This is a room filled with humor, sass, attitude, and angular thinking, and it hasn't gone unnoticed.
Take care, and good hunting.

Name: Edd


Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 07:12:45
Comments:
Whoa, you're quick...

Name: Ha ha ha!
Dupree wants to screw his own cousin!

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 06:34:57
Comments:
Where is he from? Arkansas????

Name: tom
kissin cousins

Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 06:15:48
Comments:
She turned my life into a living hell
With little tops and tight capris

rolling on the floor on that one!
damn calm down the oozing testosterone Dupree

yet another demented dan character

3 rules of common decency 1) nobody you work with, 2) even distant relatives are out, 3)jailbait skipping down to the next generation is a no-no

ala Meatloaf - two out of three ain't bad


Name: jk
jk
Location: jk,
Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 06:04:44
Comments:
Well I kicked around a lot since high school

I worked a lot o¹ nowhere gigs

From keyboard man

In an rockin' style

Haulin' cross the land(?) in those big rigs

Now I come back home to plan my next move

From the comfort of my Aunt Faye's couch

When I see my little cousin Janine walk in

Well all I could say was "Ouch!"

Honey how you have grown

Like a rose

Well we used to play when we were three

How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?

How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?

She turned my life into a living hell

With little tops and tight capris

I pretended to be readin¹ the National Globe

While I was watching her wax her skis

Saturday night she walked in with a date

And backed him up against the wall

I tumbled off the couch and heard myself say

In a voice I never knew I had before

Honey how you have grown

Like a rose

Well we used to play when we were three

How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?

How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?

I'll teach you everything I know

You teach me how to do that dance

Life is surely "quid pro quo"

And what's so strange about a down-home family romance?

One night you¹re playing gin by a cracklin' fire

I decided to make my play

I said "Babe, with my boyish charm and good looks how

Can you stand it for one more day ?"

She said "Maybe it's the (squeamy? Seedy?) look in your eye

That your mind has turned to applesauce:

The dreary architecture of your soul"

I said, "But what is it exactly turns you off?"

Honey how you have grown

Like a rose

Well we used to play when we were three

How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?

How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?

How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?

How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?

* Missing one or two words but those are the real lyrics.*

Listened to "Listen to the Lion" every day for one whole semester, Screaming they lyrics at the top of my lungs with my roommate - very therapeutic - try it!

Donalds voice and their great lyrics are 65% of why most people listen to SD. If many of you think that you shouldn't have to struggle to hear them, then maybe you (the customer) are right.

Who said that the single will be out in 6 DAYS - still haven't heard anything. HELLO OFFICIAL SITE!

jk

(my thoughts go out to my man, Mr. Harrison!)


Name: Edd


Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 03:06:08
Comments:
George and Olivia Harrison were attacked by an intruder at their home this morning.

He's in stable condition with a stab wound to the chest. She was hit on the head.


Name: Mr Chow
In the Restaurant
Oz
Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 02:53:50
Comments:
JW Malibu - Thanks for all your efforts with "Technicolor Motorhome". Great management. I'm proud to have taken part and I'm sure it will be worth the wait. For those of you receiving the first batch, can we have a review sometime soon?

A recommendation for everyone - Pat Metheny "A Map of The World" - just beautiful stuff.

Happy New Year to all GB'ers. We've got about 24 hours to go down here. Talk to you all next century.

Mr Chow.


Name: I'm thinking of a major Jane Street sunrise
The goddess on the fire escape

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 22:49:27
Comments:
was you

Name: I was grinding through my day gig
Stacking cutouts at the Strand

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 22:43:50
Comments:
When in walks Frannie from NYU
We were quite an item back then
We talked about her films and shows and cds
Don't know what else
She said Yeah, Hollywood's been good to me
But tell me, how about yourself?

I'm still working on a novel
But I'm just about to quit
I'm worried about the future now
Or maybe this is it
It's not all that I thought it would be
What a shame about me


Name: oleander
hot on the trail

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 22:30:42
Comments:
Nice job, Duck & Uncle Fog!

I said, Babe, with my boyish charm and good looks
How can you stand it for one more day?

What a hilarious song.

Alan, I'll pretend I didn't hear that.


Name: SoulMonkey168
bareback armadillo stompin down the ave

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 22:29:19
Comments:
I couldn't help but notice all of the Van Morrisson comments. I also am a fan of the Van. It always strikes me odd the way that this GB seems to have a really cool taste in music outside the obvious. My favorite song by Van has got to be hands down, "Listen To The Lion" off of St.Dominics Preview. It litterally gives me chills every time I hear it. As far as albums go I still think Tupelo Honey has got to be the best although Astral and Dominicks are close. I've only been able to see Van in concert one time. It was incredible. I was just a kid.
That must have been 15-17 years ago. As far as Cousin goes, I don't think Donalds' vocals are buried at all. How did anybody hear that. Sounded great. As far as the lyrics go, I think they are funny as hell. Glad to have all the nubies posting on the board. In a couple months its going to take 2 hours just to read one day worth of posts. Have a Happy New Year===Monkey

 


Name: Alan owns a chain of Steamer Heavens
Barry is a software king

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 22:05:27
Comments:
Somebody told me in the early 80s
You were gonna be the next big thing

Well now that was just a rumor
But I guess I'm doing fine
Three weeks out of the rehab
Living one day at a time
Sneaking up on the new century
What a shame about me


Name: TheStranger
2nd thought

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 21:47:35
Comments:
... but of course if we take the line "When we were three..." literally, then she's not younger and disregard interpretation below.

Name: TheStranger
Won't be long now

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 21:45:09
Comments:
Thanks to all who painstakingly recreated Cousin Dupree lyrics. I haven't heard it, but it appears to echo some of the theme of Hey Nineteen -- a guy lusting after a younger femme and able to laugh at himself for doing so.

Name: FOGhorn Leghorn
that's not a chickehawk

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 20:52:58
Comments:
Boy! I said Boy! Can you help me *make out* these last bit of lyrics? *Make out*...that's a joke son!

COUSIN DUPREE

Well I kicked around a lot since high school
I worked a lot o’ nowhere gigs
A keyboard man
In an Arkansas band
Haulin' cross the land(?) in those big rigs
Now I come back home to plan my next move
From the comfort of my Aunt Faye's couch
When I see my little cousin Janine walk in
Well all I could say was "Ouch!"

Honey how you have grown
Like a rose
Well we used to play when we were three
How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?
How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?

She turned my life into a living hell
With little thoughts (or toss??) and pranks to please
I pretended to be readin’ the National Globe
While I was watching her wax obscene
Saturday night she walked in with a date
And backed him up against the wall
I tumbled off the couch and heard myself say
In a voice I never knew I had before

Honey how you have grown
Like a rose
Well we used to play when we were three
How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?
How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?

I'll teach you everything I know
You teach me how to do that dance
How'd you shut ‘em torquoise cold (???)*
And what's so strange about a down-home family romance?

One night you’re playing gin by a cracklin' fire
I decided to make my play
I said "Babe, with my boyish charm and good looks
Can you stand it for…(????) ?"
She said "Maybe it's the steamy look in your eye
That your mind has turned to applesauce:
The dreary architecture of your soul"
I said, "But what is it exactly turns you off?"

Honey how you have grown
Like a rose
Well we used to play when we were three
How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?
How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?
How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?
How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?

Repeat and fade

*Could be the funniest line, boy, if I'm right son!


Name: Miz Ducky
Stabbing westward?

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 20:30:43
Comments:
Oleander: Okie-doke--now I can't resist posting my own stab at the lyrics of Cousin Dupree, especially because I think I got a lot of your "something somethings"--though I still have a few mystery gaps marked by elipses, and guesses from context marked by (?).

*************

Well I kicked around a lot since high school
I booked a lot of nowhere gigs
The people that ran in my Arkansas band
Are now haulin' cross the ... in those big rigs
Now I come back home to plan my next move
From the comfort of my Aunt Faye's couch
When I see my little cousin Janine walk in
Well all I could say was "Ouch!"
Honey how you have grown
Like a rose
Well we used to play when we were three
How about a kiss for your cousin Dupree?

She turned my life into a living hell
With little thoughts and pranks to please (?)
I pretended to be reading the National Globe
While I was watching her wax obscene
Saturday night she walked in with a date
And backed him up against the wall
I tumbled off the couch and heard myself say
In a voice I never knew I had before
Honey how you have grown
Like a rose
Well we used to play when we were three
How about a kiss for your cousin Dupree?

I'd teach you everything I know
If you teach me how to do that dance
How'd you ......
And what's so strange about a down-home family romance

One night we're playing gin by a cracklin' fire
I decided to make my play
I said "Babe, with my boyish charm and good looks
How can you stand it not to let me (?) on in?"
She said "Maybe it's the steamy look in your eye
Cause your mind has turned to applesauce;
The dreary architecture of your soul--"
I said, "But what is it exactly turns you off?"
Honey how you have grown
Like a rose
Well we used to play when we were three
How about a kiss for your cousin Dupree?

*************

La fan-grrl, c'est moi,
Mam'zelle Canard


Name: oleander
don't get around much anymore

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 20:10:23
Comments:
kd et al--Love Van Morrison. He's possessed. He sings like no one else. He's a wild, wild man.

Lars--Ditto for Mose! I'm a big fan.

tom--Ha! that's great, the ultrasound analogy. Yes, they meant abstruse.

Ruby--Thanx. But, um, I'm really not a brother.

OK, sorry hoops!, but here's a very very weak stab at the lyrics for Cuz. And there are a lot of them. Very Becker, with his signature "make my play." My listens are very fuzzy; you all help me out:

Well I've kicked around a lot since since high school
I've worked a lot of nowhere gigs
A something man in a rockin' style band
Hauling 'cross the something in the big rigs

Now I've come back home to plan my next move
From the comfort of my Aunt Jade's couch
When I see my little cousin Janine walk in
Well all I could say is "ouch!"

Honey how you've grown
Like a rose
Well we used to play when we were three
How about a kiss for your cousin Dupree...

She's turned my life into a living hell
with little something something
I pretended to be reading the national something
I was watching her wax her knees

Saturday night she walked in with a date
She backed him up against the wall
I tumbled off a chair and heard myself say
In a voice I never knew I had before

Honey how you've grown...

I'd teach her everything I know
She'd teach me how to do the dance
Something something grow cold
What's so strange about a down-home family romance?

One night while playing gin by a cracklin' fire
I decided to make my play
I said something something
I said something work all day

I said maybe it's the scheming look in your eyes
That your mind has turned to applesauce
It really oughta catch you on your soul [?]
I said but what is it exactly turns you off?

Honey how you've grown...

Well, it's a start anyway. And I know, there's not THAT long to wait for it to come out. But who can resist?


Name: DrMu
mind has turned to applesauce

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 18:55:03
Comments:
The FL version is definitely an winMP3 file that was the type Miz Ducky heard. That's why it sound different than the RealAudio sound I heard that night: crisper and Donald's vocals are up front. He sounds great!!!! ... more lively than most of Kama. The song's hilarious - Walter is definitely a HUGE influence here. Looking forward to snagging a "hi-fi" CD single. I wonder how different the rest of the CD will sound?

I thought Walter's guitar solo had a whiff of Skunk...What do y'all think? Beasely's keys were appropriately quirky in places - like a raised eyebrow.

Tom: I'm a big fan of Colorado. A number of friends used to live in Colorado Springs - and loved it. The thing about the flatlands east of Denver that would take some time to get used to would be the paucity of trees. It get's hot in the summer, but it's low humidity: Verga (rain that dries out before it hits the ground) is real common in the summer). You should try the Houston or New Orleans area in say July!!!

I remember a comedian once remarking dryly: "I know i'm going to hell... (pause) But the thing i want to know is 'Is there humidity?' Cause I can take the dry heat!"


Name: tom
one mans paradise anothers...

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 18:12:50
Comments:
aja - green with envy and all the way to your earrings (pun intended (sorry)... I guess to each their own

I'm a transplanted northerner (michigander) who was transferred in the mid eighties out of heaven in the foothills of the Colorado Rockies, so the flat land end of things and summer climate can be hell... now this time of year it's quite delightful down here

definitely bloomed where I was planted so made the most all the charms here, as you mentioned the food and music are first rate, and most of the good spots are not actually even in the Quarter.

Heading out tonight to see a great local band which consisits of 5 excellent studio guitarists who really cut it up - TWANGORAMA indeed!

as for these dan-conventions, just how big and informal are they?
sounds like alot of fun

oblig Dan quote - thanks breezemaster on the canadian article

and I quote the following small bit for those who also missed it over the Holidays

"The themes they explore are appropriate to their years. One cut on the new disc, What a Shame About Me, is a cynical take on the failed potential of a New York writer, while the closing number, West of Hollywood, is an equally dark glimpse at an emotionally frozen man. Not all the songs are as easily unlocked. Those who revel in the abstruse nature of the band's songs will find much in Two Against Nature to keep them happy and occupied.

Some themes carry over from previous discs. The new album contains a few songs with drug references, though nowhere near the frenzy of Gaucho."

sounds real encouraging! does he mean "obtuse" instead of "abstruse"?

signing off - the emotionally frozen man


Name: Miz Ducky
(tomorrow's) girl talk

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 17:30:50
Comments:
Aja, Ruby Baby: there's still a chance I might get myself free for a Las Vegas Danfest, especially if (according to this new scheme) it happens around a SD summer tour date. So count me in on any "hen party" side excursions, too! :-)

/Miz Ducky
double-checking her beaded gown


Name: aja
it's a 5 o'clock world

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 17:18:35
Comments:
tom, hoops, Lars-It's funny how so many of us are huge Van AND Dan fans given that the style is so different, but Van sings to a part of my soul that few others reach (I'm sure you all know what I mean!). I got a huge laugh about people attempting to pin one meaning on Van Morrison songs. Yeah, the man rarely speaks publicly and writes some of the most enigmatic lyrics ever put on paper, sure, there's only one meaning there!

Turning green with envy at the idea of a stroll down the Quarter! Been there once, heard the best music and ate the best food in the world-Disneyland for adults! If money were no object, I'd say a Danfest in New Orleans would be ideal.

ruby baby-we're gonna NEED some girl time. We'll do our shopping thing and the men can do something, well, male-oriented. Don't need to know more than that!


aja


Name: hoops
hoops

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 15:59:52
Comments:
Lars: Me ashamed of being a Van fan? I don't understand.

Name: tom
one last van gogh remaster piece

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 15:29:54
Comments:
hoops - nice to know a few other Van/Dan fans out there

hadn't checked out the morrison internet sites, but if it's anything like the books in print, yeah - they seem to have to pigeonhole the man's every move and thought, almost a Dylanesque religion. So funny that you slinked away from that.

As for the remasters, me too, to a lesser extent. Been rebuying the dan one's - have KL, RS and Aja so far (at least their priced write and the liner notes are hilarious)

Humm, Don and Walt and George Fame , I won't go there


Name: Lars
-

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 15:27:52
Comments:
Hoops - why are you ashamed for beeing a vanfan? He´s probably one of our continents biggest heros. I love all his works and when he sings Mose Alison songs - whoa!

Clas - I think I heard your friend playing baryton with one of those old farts. Can´t remember who... . I´m definitively sure I heard that cd I mentioned. Sweden have a good tradition of barytonplayers. Lars Gullin´s "Fäbodsjazz" is one of the best swedish albums ever.


Name: hoops
hoops@interaccess.com

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 15:07:45
Comments:
Regarding Van Morrison comments, I couldn't get help get all goose pimply as Van gets me all excited like the Dan. In fact in the early 90s I started a Digest for Van along side the Dandom Digest. After a few digests I stopped as one, there seemed to be a few other Van internet resources and, two, unlike the folks that hang out here and in the greater Dandom, Van fans are so fucking anal as to having one literal interpretation of what Van's personal and subjective songs are about. So enough of that shit. I rarely feel the need to discuss Van songs with anyone...and they are so sublime. Art Siegal has his hands full with the Van fans--he does a great job running internet services for a difficult bunch.

Like the Dan, I run out and buy Van remasters whenever they come out...can't help it. When I went to Europe, one of my highlights was getting to purchase four Van remasters from 1979-83 that aren't out remastered in the States. I'm pathetic I guess.

Van and friends have a skiffle album coming out in January; Completely 180 from the Dan in this respect--Van basically called a few friends up one day; told them to get to Belfast; they did the tracks live and boom--it's coming out! WoW!

Obligatory Dan content. In '76, D + W were on the radio and played T.B. Sheets...and I believe somewhere, somehow Fagen said that he loved Morrison's singing.

And how about D + W covering the Title track version of The Healing Game?...Coltrane and Dan and 11TOW.


Name: tom
Monk e in your soul

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 14:26:07
Comments:
aja - early 70's van as well, man 73 was so productive (that many great unused tracks is astounding, but a pleasant surprise now)
I agree completely on WR and BSOTR. Like the Dan, Van's music for the most part has a timelessness about it that seldom disappoints

too nice out out here as well, so spontaneously walked to the Quarter and picked up a great Monk disc over lunch at my fav jazz store "Live at the It Club" - a generous reissue of the Monk quartet letting go in 64. Got alot of work done while listen to this baby.

Hutch - the Doors with Jim and Badfinger, an interesting combo to say the least, envy is rising

I love that little synth splurge/sputter near the end of Aja, it only lasts for a few seconds during the drumming disarray, but it kind of "feels" like celluloid burning on a projection screen

before the fall, when they wrote it on the wall


Name: ruby babe
i love NY it's a great vacation

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 13:16:56
Comments:
aja: Unless they're bringing their women, you and I seem to be the only females on this Vegas Danfest. Let's make the most of that! However, we must schedule some girl time - shopping, etc. I'll be glad to hear about that good love&faith message.

MizDucky: I kinda forgot You,Me & Irene. I thought that was a figment of my imagination. Thanks, pal!

YGK: I went on the whirlwind trip to Manhattan last week. It was great! I got car sick in those blasted cabs - so we had to make a side trip into Trump Towers so I could drink a coke and spew it back out. But we saw the most beautiful Christmas tree in there. My travel mates were thanking me all day. Then, we stopped to rest in a small area called Father Fagen park. He was a great hero - died at the age of 27 while saving some kids from a burning building. More to tell, but time prevents me. Thought of you off & on all day, though.

rb


Name: aja
it's too beautiful outside to work today

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 12:57:29
Comments:
Stranger-sounds logical. As soon as a tour is announced (I'm sure they've already got it planned now) we can do our planning!

Midnight Cruiser-I thought that'd be too perfect, new SD AND Eric Johnson. After all, EJ's last album only came out in 1996 (IMHO, he's the second worst offender for long stretches between albums, after our beloved SD) I'm glad I didn't have to pick, but I probably would've done what you did, too.

tom-yes, must be some aural vibes in the air! "Wonderful Remark" and "Bright Side of the Road" were interesting to hear in their early manifestations-I think I like the earlier version of the former and the later version of the latter, if you can follow that! I particularly love his early seventies work, so Phil Stone was, uh, music to my ears, so to speak!


aja


Name: JWMalibu
JWMalibu@msn.com

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 10:18:16
Comments:
Doc ~ Please e-mail me your mailing address, I have a copy of the GB Compilation with your name on it, courtesy of Ole...

Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 10:06:23
Comments:
Howdy, All!! Been awhile since I've had time to post... hardly any time now... now that I look at my watch. It's good to see the oldsters and the newbies! I hope all went well and will continue thru the next holiday. Sorry I couldn't contribute to the GB CD... maybe next time.

Name: TheStranger
Vegas state of mind

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 09:29:47
Comments:
Ruby Babe, Aja, St. Al, JWMalibu and all others interested in Vegas danfest,
I'm hoping we'll know more about a Dan tour around the time the CD is released. Winter, summer, it's all OK. Vegas doesn't change.

Y2K ALERT -- Remember that Ahmed character who was nabbed at the Canadian border? He had an accomplice who got away. First Lurker, is that you? Come in for counseling.


Name: tom
Cousin Dupree snaking the Van to Rose Darling

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 06:20:35
Comments:
ruby - I'm with you on a fresh set of ear's hearing Cousin Dupree off the CD release - excuse the crude analogy but the mp3 is kinda like an ultrasound, when you really want to be genderly surprised at the birth of your child.

and this baby (2AN) is well overdue

aja - thanks on the musical tastes compliment, mine are a bit wide spread and ecclectic. Are we experiencing a little Van the man audio telepathy? How do you like the development of Van's Wonderful Remark from Phil Stone to album release 10 years later?

another small embelishment for Oleander's gisha girl

Rose Darling - the setting is a boarding school and "Snake Mary" is the woman assigned to watch over the boy's after curricular activites. She's a real killjoy, hence her nickname by the boys in tow, but thankfully she sleeps through his night time visitations with dear Rose. the rest as other's have aptly stated is a little hand of fate gesture.

and what's all this fixation on snakes anyway?

love those snakehips on the trans island skyway


Name: Clas
@ a library

Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 04:48:44
Comments:
Yeah, you Newbie, YGK is one of the very problematic posters. He used to accuse me for sexually harrasing woman over the phone, he's also accusing me for inserting perverted porno-stuff on the guestbook. So take everything he says with a ounce of salt. All he "knows" is that he loves Manhattan.

He actually loves a junkyard!

The Stranger - well, it's not excactly a farm, a two-story red cabin with a bathtub. You're welcome.

Lars - yeah, Gunnar B is great. His real water is the old be-bop-thing.

Hi Zeke.

D Fla Room - the letter is on its way!

Clas,

free Palestine.


Name: Fan "59
gjermo_escochesviende@hotmail.com
NY
Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 00:33:52
Comments:
you lostsomm kinda feelin yea

Name: Fan '59
gjermo_escochesviende@hotmail.com
NY
Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 00:24:21
Comments:
wright rides good .well=do

Name: Fan '59
gjermo_escochesviende@hotmail.com
NY
Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 00:24:20
Comments:
wright rides good .well=do

Name: Miz Ducky
Right place/wrong time

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 22:13:53
Comments:
Ruby Baby: Aha! Re movies with SD songs, you've got the right star but the wrong movie. The Jim Carrey vehicle that's going to have all the SD covers is a Farrelly Bros. opus called "Me, Myself, and Irene," which I think is still being wrapped up and won't be released until next year sometime. The *current* Jim Carrey vehicle, "Man in the Moon," has a soundtrack that is full of songs by the group REM. So ... there you go!

/Miz Ducky
ever seeking to be helpful


Name: well
I'll be!

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 21:31:35
Comments:
Fan '59- I haven't seen you in a coon's age!

How's it going??


Name: Fan '59
fan59@hotmail.com

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 21:22:14
Comments:
fan 59
logfild


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 21:08:52
Comments:
Foghorn Leghorn - Thank you for my first glimpse of TAN! I loved Cousin Dupree; cool, funky, and fun. And Donald's voice sounds as good as ever; it didn't sound to me like it was buried in the mix. I thought I heard a bit more Cringemaker than I did Kamakiriad, but that might have been a combination of poor speakers and only one listen. I like it, and I'm looking forward to more of something in the same vein. And I'm glad they don't sound exactly like they did 20 years ago; I want to hear the sort of sound they produce now - everyone changes and develops, even our guys.

Name: David in the Florida Room
dmoore113@aol.com

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 20:06:36
Comments:
Foghorn-thanks for the url...I listened to the hissy,crappy MP3 and loved it! Those guys have not written a song I didn't like...but that's just me.also the reason I have not participated in the best and worst Steely lists...I can't go there.
...you've grown...like a rose.

David


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 17:59:58
Comments:
My song is cute - I've always heard that line as "My place is good."

Name: Midnite Cruiser
MidniteCruiser@hotmail.com

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 17:28:29
Comments:
Aja....I don't think there's a new Eric Johnson CD out. The cut that went head to head with "Cousin Dupree" on KFOG the other night was "The First Noel" from the "Merry Axemas" CD that was released a couple of years ago featuring various artists doing different Christmas tracks....I think the song EJ did for that CD was the best on the album and I really thought it was better than "Cousin Dupree" but I *had* to vote for Steely Dan.

RubyBaby....I've got the MP3 of "The Chanukah Song" and have been playing it to death lately....funny stuff!!

JDubs....1,000 thanks in advance!!!


Name: aja
definitely not working now

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 17:18:03
Comments:
ruby baby-hey! I was just thinking about you. I learned a good lesson about Love and Faith this morning, for which I am very grateful. Yes, let's get this Vegas Danfest off the ground! St. Al suggested timing it around the summer SD tour schedule, if we can wait that long (and if SD come to Vegas) but if they do that could be a lot of fun! If not, I'm open to going anytime-it's Vegas, y'know, gonna be fun no matter what! I think the attendees are going to be you and I, Stranger, JWMalibu, and possibly St. Al. So what we need are some votes for either going for the summer tour or just going for the hell of it!

Hutch-If I become an East Coast Danizen I'm going to come see your band, buy you your beverage of choice and you can tell me concert stories all night.


aja


Name: ruby baby
everyone's gone to the movies except me!

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 16:15:51
Comments:
I've read every article about Man On The Moon I see, ask all my friends who've gone, and they never mention the music. They don't even remember one song in it. Wasn't there supposed to be some SD covers in there? Has anyone seen it yet?

I have a feeling the first time I hear Cousin Dupree will be when I load the cd into the player. That's life in The Valley! I don't want to spoil it with realcrappyaudio or wiMP3 cyber sound, either.

JDubs: We appreciate all the work you've done! A smile is not too much to ask for. I'll jpg one over to you. Is that sufficient, or should I wear something more?

stranger: who is this turkey lurkey bad-talkin you?

aja: who's going to set up this Vegas danfest? I'll help.

Oleander & other scurvy Jewish brothers: I've been meaning to say Happy Chanukah. May the miracle of Chanukah shine in your hearts always.

And I can't seem to get that Adam Sandler song about Chanukah out of my head. It's the only Chanukah song I know so don't be too mad at me.
You might be interested to know my great,great grandmother was a Russian Jew who escaped persecution by boat to Sweden. She searched for the handsome Swedish man who visited her village when she was a girl. She found him, married him and gave him 5 sons. Life went well for her because she didn't sit around waiting for stuff to happen - she made things happen. I know she would have loved Steely Dan music. At least, she would have loved the spirit of it.

rb


Name: Hutch
dayafterday

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 15:55:38
Comments:
aja - Scroll down to FOGhorn Leghorn's post. There's an MP3 of Cousin Dupree recorded off KFOG that you can download. You have to download it to a file and it takes a long time (at least it did for me) but, of course, well worth the wait. The sound quality is a little lacking but, hey... who's complaining? Catchy little song, I think.
Actually I did see The Doors in Hampton, VA in the very early Seventies but it was right after Morrison had died and Manzerak was doing all the vocals. As you can imagine, there was certainly something lacking! We were in like the second or third row front and center. The opening act was Badfinger and that was really the main reason I went.

Name: aja
having trouble getting back to work

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 15:27:55
Comments:
Hutch-now don't tell me you saw The Doors, too......

tom-love your taste in music! Been listening to "The Philosopher's Stone" all weekend and I love some of those songs more than what was released at the time, too. He sings some of the best spiritual music-soulful but not preachy.

Oh when oh when am I going to hear Cousin Dupree?


aja


Name: -
-

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 14:27:41
Comments:
and it's thin and full of static....

Name: =
=

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 14:25:38
Comments:
FOGhorn: That Dupree mp3 doesn't work. It sounds like a CD being fast-forwarded.

Name: Hutch
thedoorsofperception

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 13:33:01
Comments:
first lurker - You're a very amusing individual. I'm quite sure all of those who have been "ignored" are awfully glad that you are looking out for them. The last time I scrolled back it appeared as though the various holiday greetings used the words "all" and "everyone". Chill out.

Stranger - Amazing, isn't it?


Name: my song is cute
and its comfortable . . .

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 13:02:55
Comments:
Wet side. Music excellent. lyrics horendous. background singers horendous.

Cousin Dupree. "Hey Donald we need a new bouncy single like hey nineteen"

"Yeah, and we can ad our patented wicked twist just like the cradle robber in the afore mentioned big hit. What could we do diff? Hmmmmm . . . INCEST - that'll get us banned in Boston!"

"Don't you think that after R. James, prince and the rappers, that this ditty sounds a little tame/lame?"

"No, We are gonna shock em!"

"Couldn't we at least say UNCLE Dupree?!?!?!?"

uncle.


Name: MITCH
Jack of Speed

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 12:41:43
Comments:

Hoops: I love Jack of Speed from Art Crimes 96, I know Walter sang lead on tour, but i hear Donald sings lead on 2VN........Walter did a credible job ,but i bet Walter`s version is the way to go.........

Name: Mitch
stuck my size 13 in my mouth

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 12:21:48
Comments:

I double posted , sorry about that and said that the female backround singers was a " new twist" . I just heard Brooklyn Owes The Charmer Under Me and it had females in the backround...... any others I forgot?

Name: tom
2AN and philosopher's stone

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 12:09:47
Comments:
Was listening to Van Morrison's surprizing "Philosopher's Stone" 2 cd set 70-80's of early demos (some 10 years prior) and unreleased jems (some better than the album material released at the time) and couldn't help but wish that the Dan box set would have had much more material along these lines.

Then again I guess TAN may be the opening up of ever evolving jems mined from the Dan collective soul in the 90's as surely not every idea they had several years back would have fit into a Kamakiri conceptual vein.

So if Wet Side Story doesn't make this cut, perhaps the floodgates will be opened up a little later on

Yes I'd love to tour the southland in a traveling minsteral show


Name: MITCH
2VN Y2K

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 12:08:57
Comments:

I was under the impression that Wet Side Story was a sure thing on the NEW ONE. The cut was played regularly on the ART CRIMES 96 TOUR.The backround female singers was a new twist for D+W . I thought it needed a little polishing, but was suitable for recording..... The nine cuts on it must be excellent for it to be left off......... but then again Second Arrangement was also never recorded......

Name: aja
take 4 days off and look what I miss!

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 11:54:37
Comments:
Can't believe I left work several hours before the Paul Revere post went through the GB and missed "Cousin Dupree"! Even more of a bonus-is there a new Eric Johnson album out as well? Be still my beating heart! Anyway, for us latecomers, please post any hints of scheduled replays :)

tom-good to have you back, and your thoughtful, nonhostile posts!

Miz Ducky-but when necessary, a good flame soothes the ruffled feathers, especially when it is done with style and wit! Got a good chuckle, as I usually do from your posts.

JWM-what can I say, you've made my dreary looking new year's eve bright. Here's a big smile on my face :) !


aja


Name: hoops
hoops

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 11:33:53
Comments:
Ragarding Mitch's comments on the omission of "Wet Side Story;" I, like pretty much everyone else, have yet to hear the new album (save for "Cousin Dupree") so it's premature to have an opinion as to whether it was it good idea for WSS to be left out. For me, WSS is a vague 96 memory so I'm not sure I will have a stronger opinion on its omission from the album unless it gets released as a CD bonus track.

I will say this, I don't remember WSS very well from 96 but I DO remember "Jack of Speed" quite clearly so the latter stuck in my head a lot better. Maybe that says something--like I was drunk on my ass by the time they played WSS

peace,

hoops


Name: JDubs
*

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 11:30:47
Comments:
Mitch, buddy ~ e-mail me your mailing address: JWMalibu@msn.com...

Name: Mitch
2 v N

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 11:19:02
Comments:

Iam a little surprised to see that Wet Side Story was left off the New One. The cut which I`M sure that most of you heard on the ART CRIMES 96 TOUR was pretty good and featured some female backround singers , a little change from SD material and certainly qualified for the 10 th song on it. I wonder what the GBer`s think of this omission ?

Name: First Lurker
lurkingfirst

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 10:00:49
Comments:

stranger: who said they don't like me other than you? are you that self important that you feel you can speak for the entire gb? are you their self-appointed leader now? notice how often I had to use the word "self" when discussing you? Here, I have another one - if your dick was as big as your mouth, I'd tell you to go fuck yourSELF, but you probably couldn't get a hardon big enough to touch your bellybutton. hopefully it's an outie anyway and you can just pretend.

It's the people like you that I was reffreing to you sad fuck.


Name: TheStranger
Not hoarding for y2k

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 09:42:52
Comments:
Oleander,
Sorry about your plague down there. Try killing the rats.

FirstLurker,
Ah, you're a sensitive type. And people don't seem to appreciate you. You have my utmost sympathy, shithead.


Name: FOGhorn Leghorn
that's no joke son

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 07:45:20
Comments:
can you hear what I hear

http://www.ri.to/sd/dupree.mp3


Name: Edd
I'm ashamed...

Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 05:07:30
Comments:
Listening to the opening of "Cousin Dupree" I found myself wanting to sing "New York, New York is everything they say, And no place that I'd rather be..."

It must be the flu affecting my brain. *Please* let it be the flu affecting my brain...


Name: DrMu
winter shudder falls
Location: Chalupa Pass, TX
Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 21:26:41
Comments:
it's "then it's dark again"

AND

"Slow Hand Row" - is that the Pointer Sister's favorite makeout point?

building the dish to channel Kubrick on 12/31/00


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 20:38:50
Comments:
First Lurker - I'm sorry; I didn't mean to offend. Of course you can handle yourself quite well here, you've taken your measure of us and you'll fit in just fine. And I appreciate your kind greetings; I hope your Christmas went well. I'll still extend my greeting, and I look forward to hearing more from you.

Name: JWMalibu
*

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 20:37:10
Comments:
..in the mail

Name: oleander
you just get on board

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 20:25:13
Comments:
That's an amen to what Roy.Scam said about Curtis Mayfield as well as an invite to all lurkers who are so inclined.

dlee--I thought it was "and then it's dark again." Which really resonates with me during those dark pre-solstice nights of the soul.

Edd--glad your neph' is going to make it. I'll send you on a little something to sustain you. Hold out for NEXT New Year's to party like it's 2000.

tom--thanx re page. Keep writing. Fingular banjos--that's great.

Stranger--well, we're having a bit of a hepatitis outbreak to keep us festive. I WAS on vacation.

JDub--it'll be a long week.

f#--at last, the origins of the Sharp One! grins from afur.


Name: tom
slow hand rogue

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 18:30:26
Comments:
Obviously it's "slow hand row"

any idea just what that is?

I was merely looking at a play on words

"rogue" has a nice ring to it

we could stay inside and play games


Name: Oops
mistake

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 18:17:36
Comments:
that's where they're driving to.

Name: It's slow hand road
it's slow hand road

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 18:10:33
Comments:
IT'S SLOW HAND ROAD.

THAT'S WHERE THEIR DRIVING TO.


Name: First Lurker
From the garden of lurkin

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 18:09:14
Comments:

my god you guys are self-involved spazs!I wasn't complaining about poor little me, and I certainly wasn't soliciting any advice on how to get better known or accepted. I was merely saying Merry Christmas to the people who obviously got ignored in all of the previous greetings. Thanks but no thanks. Fucking headcases. There, stranger, was that hersh enough to get noticed? gee, I hope so, because my fragile ego won't be able to handle it.

Name: tom
new b 2 b

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 18:05:22
Comments:
Hey Newbies - I'm new here as well

Altamira suggested posting often as the GB will get to know you better. From my relatively new experience here (read wet behind the ears and flat out stupid) that sounds like good advice. Then again I may be way over extending my welcome mat

the first few times I posted with a question, I didn't really get any response, but with further tact (or lack of), the feeble attempt at discussing something SD musically related, and a warm glow of good intentions, I was actually able to get some insightful responses on the list

as for GB handles, I was thinking about "Slow Hand Rogue" myself


hey zombie be born again my friend,
won't ya sign in stranger?


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 17:21:18
Comments:
Dr. Mu - I remember Expanding Man posting back around April or May, so I think that name has been taken recently.

Lurkers I and II - Welcome. We are not really a cliquish group here; we're pretty friendly and welcoming once you get to know us. There are some flamers here and there; watch out for the Newbie Police!, but they've been quiet lately so I doubt they'll bother you, and if they do, they crawl back into their holes after their attacks and won't bother you again. The best way to become a part of this group is to post often so we can get to know you.

Tom - Good to see you back. Interesting take on Bad Sneakers; it makes a lot of sense.

David in the Florida Room - Thanks for the kind words. Actually, I have felt better today; the bad times are fleeing away.

The Stranger - That sounds like one dreadful Thanksgiving. Damn, life can sure get rough! But the really bad days make the others seem good in comparison.


Name: F#maj9
i forget

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 16:47:03
Comments:
So i'm peeling garlic and listening to hip Deeetroit area radio hoping maybe i'll get a glimmer [Mick and Keith] of Cousin D and
maybe like i'll make a lasagna, too. i got the week off and i haven't heard it yet.
okay, well- on comes Aja, but it's the middle after the police whistle and Wayne Shorter is going vvvuhvvvvvuhwuvvvwuhhhh...
you know the spot.
okay, so it's a commercial. Wayne Shorter is going to play "...the jazz event of the season..." with the Detroit Symphony Orchestra, Aja is swelling like the tide under the announcer and it re-cues back to another Ajaitic vvwuvvwuuhhh...
someone correct me if i'm wrong- but doesn't Shorter claim to have no recollection of doing the Aja session [maybe because these two smarmy suburban boys are outselling the real jazz folk 20:1?]???

suddenly, his memory seems to have improved.

welcome newfolk: take stranger's well-put advice and enjoy. there are people in here who have known each other for years and you have to respect their familiarity. otherwise, people respond to whatever tickles their fancy. however, i've been waiting for someone to log on as Clean Willie so i could flame their shit crispy. just kidding.

I've thought about changing my handle to Jackson, 7th.avenue, Babbs, Fistula [from the website], Rooster, Soul Survivor [would love to hear Steve Vai do Expressway to Your Heart], Spreading Haze, Daddy G., Savoy Sides, Minstrel, Cherry Wine, Muzzwell B.
[Harvey's brother], Motorscooter [hooters flirts with political correctitude], Laughing Chance, Flies on Me [i played bball with the Police Athletic League]; there's a bunch more but my real favorite is Italian in their eyes. Hiyo, Fistula. Away.

F#maj9 [not exactly a Dan-related moniker; sentimental]
the night i first logged on i had been teaching my daughter "Mother Nature's Son", by request. The capo was on fret two, good for her range but actually a [attention teachers] *really* good trick for teaching anyone with a smaller hand a more complex stretch- like the Emaj9 Paul plays in that song. fret two shortens the reach and makes it less frustrating to learn the chord! so, after one week- get this, i moved the capo down to F. after the next week...yup.
there's some really smart people in here.



Name: JWMalibu
Pay up...

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 16:24:13
Comments:
The remittance would be: the smiles on your collective faces...net 30!

 


Name: tom
casing the dragon round the mystical sphere

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 15:33:23
Comments:
just wanted to give a huge thumbs up plug to Oleander's great site and all the thought provoking comments there

One thing which always endeared me to SD during the 70's was the fact that they could be singing what sounded like a perfectly pleasant song, yet underneath upon closer inspection it really has a darker and sometimes humorful or sarcastic core.

Anyway songs like Every's GOne to the Movies, Rose Darling, etc, but one I find even more enchanting in that vein is Time Out of Mind. It sounds like such an uplifting ready to go out and play type of pop song. I always knew it was landmined with drug references "I am holding the mystical sphere, it's direct from Lhasa" but actually reading the comments related to opium smoking brought a true chuckle. Thanks for the insight

It's perfection and grace, it's the smile on my face


Name: Edd


Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 15:19:19
Comments:
JW - Pardon if I missed this info, but will your address be included on the package for remittance purposes?

...and the remittance would be?

Edd


Name: DrMu
cousin Freud

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 14:22:17
Comments:
goodies - from the muscial gods herein



Name: TheStranger
Advice

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 14:21:16
Comments:
Lurking,
The way to get noticed is to attack without mercy. But keep in mind that if you post something interesting it will be noticed even if there is no written response. And don't be so touchy, whatsyourname.

Name: DrMu
let's get with the program

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 14:20:48
Comments:
JW: Looking forward immensely to the goddies sometime during the 12 days of Christmas.

That's how I heard Cousing Dupree with a touch of Time Out of Mind.

Lurkers I and II: Welcome. I have a feeling this room will be packed soon. I don't know what the statute of limitation should be on unused pre-owned nicknames? Here are a few that are unused or used a long time ago (>3 yrs). Caution: My memory may be porous.

Woman's voice
Expanding Man (long time ago?)
Cringemaker
Little Kawai (too personal?)
Good King John? Richard is a frequent guest
my father
Jack (as in "you go back")
Fool
maid
William Wright (in this venue?), Michael, Jesus
Bodhisattva
any man left
DaddyG?
halfway crucified
men in the treeez
some of the tomorrow's girls
Brubeck
ladies talkin'
you fella

you get the picture...


Name: JWMalibu
Listening to the GB Compliation...

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 13:44:51
Comments:
Sounds great...some slight variations in level from track to track, but close enough for Rock n' Roll! I won't be able to get to the Post Office (for stamps) until tomorrow, so they will go out Wednesday morning. The So/Central-Cal contingent (Stranger, Ruby & Aja) should have it by New Year's Eve, the rest of the US Danizens by early next week or sooner (they're going 1st class). The Euros and Aussies can expect it in the next two weeks or sooner...

Initial impression of "Cousin Dupree" ~ "Kamakiriad" meets "Cringemaker"...some definite hooks in that song!


Name: Roy.Scam
you.don't.need.no.ticket

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 12:15:36
Comments:
Curtis Mayfield was one of the best r&b and pop songwriters of the century whose end he just missed seeing. The duet that Eric Clapton and D'Angelo (sp?) did of Curtis's "I've Been Tryin'" at the Mayfield tribute was beyond great. And Curtis's taped speech for that event made tragedy seem inspiring. What a guy he was.

Sad month for great musicians,
RS


Name: YourGoldKeith
one more time in '99

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 11:24:49
Comments:
Lurking also: I've seen both used here, tho not recently....FYI...welcome to the board!
But check out the archives for problematic posters....

ygk


Name: lurking also
I detect the el-supremo

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 11:02:27
Comments:
I can understand your comments here as I am relatively new also

yes it is may appear hard to break in to the perceived "clique", and questions may not be responded to or threads taken off on, as your new, but hang in there... a little creativity on our part and going with the flow on the GB seems to pay off, and this is a very warm group with minimal flaming

I guess we both need a flashy user name, I'm sure el-supremo is taken, clean willie anyone?


Name: Lurking
@thekeyboardwithgoodintentions

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 10:14:14
Comments:

A very Merry Christmas and a Happy and productive New Year to all of those gb-er's who are constantly ignored because they somehow don't fit into the little clique. Everyone else has gotten their greetings and airtime, now it's your moment.


Name: tom
that ditch out in the valley

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 08:04:01
Comments:
Hope everyone had a great holidays

Oleander - loved your 4 monkeys see no, hear no, speak no, cover the sports car analogy! Had me rolling

Altamira and Aja - thanks for the warm comments, I missed you too

Hutch - I'll get back with you on the headphones thing, been trying it out here at work with it slow over the holidays. Generally I like the Dan crystalizing in my listening room over speakers and filling the rooms aural spaces, as opposed to dancing around vibrantly totally confined well inside one's cranial passages.

Hal Leonard transcrips - I have the Best of SD full scores and the only misquote I saw was "fin-gu-lar banjos".

last comment on Bad sneakers - I always imagined the song set in a minimum security prison / mental hospital. The fellow isn't particularly violent and "I can see the ladies talking... fearsome excavation" line as either viewable from his cell window or his vividly picturing the outside world and it's colder realities. In the chorus section he remembers the more positive freeing memories "on the avenue".


Name: David in the Florida Room
dmoore113@aol.com

Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 at 07:04:15
Comments:
Alta and Edd, This too shall pass....Hang in there my friends.

Name: DrMu
What happens when tryptophan and lycopene collide?

Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 22:40:03
Comments:
Hey, 2vN is currently No.1 at Amazon.com in pre-order.

MizD: I was up to 1 am getting lasagna sauce, meatballs, and Italian sausage ready for the next day. Day 2 is for boiling the noodles, drying during the Children's Mass, then layering the sauce/meat, pasta, and cheeses for baking @ 350° Then turkey on X-mas day for descending family members. My wife was conjuring up sweet potato and broccoli caseroles, fudge, cakes, cookies. It will take the entirety of next year to burn off these calories once the leftovers are finally gone!

Edd: wishing you and your nephew the best

Got my wife the new Moody Blues CD Strange Times as she's a fan. It turned out to be a better recording than I had thought - and the samples were hopeful. While John Lodge's insipid Forever Now and Graeme Edge's dreadful poem at the end are worth skipping, that leaves 12 decent to excellent tracks. Essentially this is a pop album, but a well-crafted one musically. The lyrics range from mildly elegant to spacey to banal as one would expect, but the songs have fine melodies. The production and engineering are truly first rate. An extaordinarly clean recording with nice balance and mix. Patrick Moraz is gone - and the album benefits. The songs and production touches provide some lushness and sound a little reminiscent of their first 7. They were more orchestral, powerful in places but simpler in structure and a tendency to be overbearing at times. I'm also finally hearing in recent digital recordings mastered the warmth of vinyl...and you of course skip the noise as well.

The sum of this album is probably greater than the whole - it takes a few listens. The tracks English Sunset and Strange Times are 2 of the standouts and could hold their own with many classic Moody tracks. English Sunset is essentially an electronica -type track with that Moody sound...sure beats the hell out of Madonna, Cher, and Depeche Mode. Haunted, Foolish Love, and The Swallow are quite good in the classic Justin Hayward vein. Ray Thomas contributes a nice liitle children's song, and John Lodge's Love Don't Come Easy is the best George Harrison song released in over 20 years. The lyric sheet is a waste of a good tree, but this is an enjoyable album by the Moodies - their first consistent effort since Long Distance Voyager which had some realy nice tracks (The Voice, 22,000 Days, etc.) and one crappy one (Gemini Dream).

Listening to the re- re of Royal Scam. It is kickin' major ass! Klemmer's solo on Caves, Carlton's solos, piano on Sign in Stranger are reaping the benefits of remastering - dynamic range and sonic impact are up. From the liner notes, these guyz wanted to be a badd ass black funk-jazz band...my wife surprised me - her fave is Green Earrings.


Name: The Stranger
Bad days then

Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 22:06:15
Comments:
MEMORIES OF UGLY HOLIDAYS
Ed's description of his cycle-crashed newphew, the flu, and then, the bollixed water heater and then an approaching work day is graphically depressing. What comes to my mind for nightmare holidays of the past is simpler. I love Thanksgiving. It's my favorite holiday. A day of thanks. I remember being in a strange city (Kansas City) with no friends or loved ones, at a new job. Worked Thanksgiving night. Got 45 minutes off for dinner. Went with a very depressed co-worker, Tom, to a flourescent diner. Only a few customers. Everyone had long faces. Had the awful turkey special. Waitress sullen and introverted. Turkey was room temperature. Tom had a breakdown about a year later and went into an institution.

Anyone else care to share screwed up holidays of the past or present? Cheer up, Ed.


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 21:31:19
Comments:
Dleestan - Good quote; Snowbound is most appropriate for certain areas in the northern hemisphere this time of year; I'd been thinking about that quote recently myself.

Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 21:28:27
Comments:
Edd - I wish your nephew all the best; it sounds like he's in a pretty bad position right now. I hope you're feeling better; a flu compounded by sleeping on a cold water bed must be pretty nasty.

GirlFred - Sounds like a good way to spend the day. I am intrigued by that book you mentioned; I'll look for it.

Miz Ducky - I'm glad you had a good day; it sounds most joyous and I'm glad you've been able to spread the good fortune around.

I have heard from a friend in Atlanta that Curtis Mayfield passed away today at a hospital near Atlanta - he was in his mid 50s and there is no information about the cause of death. I wish him all the best in his new life, and we lose a good musician.


Name: dleestan
@aol
Location: chicago,
Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 20:25:49
Comments:
Favorite SD cold weather holiday moment

Kamakiriad:
We sailed our ice caps on the frozen river
Some loser fired off a flair amen
For seven seconds it was like Christmas Day
Then it starts again ooohhh-----
Then it starts again

(horns)
(chorus)


Name: GSpottyPffred
selective server

Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 19:27:31
Comments:
oh.. the first part of that disappearing quote was just me saying something like " you mean i can now just HEAR it, but can't have a copy anymore?" and then something to the effect of "Oh.... man, i was really looking forward to" and "blah, blah, blah" and so on...
you know... just your basic grovelling with a side of understanding ...

Name: GirlFred
one disc short of a full tray

Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 19:18:40
Comments:
excerpted from an e:

>

i have only one. VERY touchy. people lose their jobs and such.

(gf here/now): but surely folks were taping off of KFOG Thurs. evening

still cautious about my internet activity due to continuing strangeness... that.. hmm.. sucks.

MizDucky - a few months ago, I had dinner at a friend (a Native American) of a friend. I admired a little rock on her table, and she gave it to me ... said that since I had talked my admiration, it was no longer hers to keep.. said it never was.. I've since passed it on, and try, sometimes successfully and sometimes not, to keep that brief exchange in mind/heart.

Edd - wishing well to your nephew and you, too!! a cold waterbed and big K on Christmas Eve ...ooo shivvvver. hope someone gave you an insulated headphone helmet

Alta - the Holidays can be tough sometimes.. I didn't go to church Friday or yesterday, but did spend a small part of the day with my ex's mom, who, due to alzheimer's, could only smile and sigh a lot. The best part of the day though was walking around a nearby lake with my son, thoughts of the people I love making me warmer... my cats just wanted to EAT. ... 'can opener frenzy'
'ooo, more TINNED MICE' ... 'tinned mice' is from a book, 'Felonious M. Cat, an autobiography' ... a sweet story written by someone who has obviously spent a good amount of time living with those of the feline persuasion who allow him to participate in their daily life...

living a 36 hour day,

GF


Name: YGK
..

Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 17:14:34
Comments:
Duck Chick: Cool! Sounds like a truly festive occiasion that "resonates".....

Edd: I'm working 8-8's starting Friday through Monday....that's PM to AM....damn this y2k

yg(riping)k


Name: Miz Ducky
mizducky@drizzle.com
Location: Seattle, The cosmos
Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 14:32:44
Comments:
Oh my! My sympathies and encouraging thoughts to all GBers who, for whatever reasons, are experiencing the shadow-side of this holiday season. Been there, done that ... and why do you suppose I now live on the other side of the continent from my birth family? Okay, so that's hardly the only reason. But it has had the side-effect that I've been able to crowbar at least some of my personal sources for holiday angst outta my life. Not that I've still managed to have some lulus on my own ...

This holiday I was unexpectedly blessed to be invited to the home of friends of Native American heritage. We didn't do a tree or sing carols. We had a drumming circle, a feast (with venison stew!) and a potlatch. I was blown away and humbled by the amount of *stuff* the potlatch host gave away, including to me, a relatively new acquaintance. Good thing she told me it's an acceptable part of the tradition to pass on gifts to others who can use 'em better--I'd be a little embarrassed to keep the whole lot!

Anyhow--To all my Dan-friends, a happy remaining-holidays season, and on into the New Frontier.

/Miz Ducky


Name: Edd
THIUGH : = = THOUGH

Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 13:21:33
Comments:

Name: Edd


Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 13:19:41
Comments:
My holiday went down hill starting Tuesday when my nephew crashed his motorcycle, inflicting serious hurt on himself. Estimate is 5-6 weeks in the ICU. An easy 2 months before he's released.

Thiugh it pales in comparison, I came down with the flu as I was leaving work Thursday. Went home and practically straight to bed, not realizing the heater in the water bed had died. Since I keep my room cool, the bed was down to about 75 degrees by the time I woke up Friday and realized something was drastically wrong. So in my flu-ridden, hypothermic state I had to hit the local K-mart for another heater. K-Mart on the day before Christmas is my idea of hell.

...and NEXT Friday night I get to work!

Does it get any better than this? If so, when???

Happy Holidaze to alluh ya...


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 12:16:21
Comments:
YGK - Yes, I hear you - reality is a good thing - better to take life as it comes. I've spent a quiet weekend in my apartment with the cats (along with a few forays over to my church). I was planning to get a lot done this weekend, but ended up feeling too awful to get anything accomplished. I hate this fucking miserable, lonely holiday and I'll be glad when it's all over.

I'm still excited about TAN, though; it's good to have something to look forward too.

I hope you all are having a pleasant holiday, and if you're not, remember that it will be all over soon and we'll be back to normal life, where pain and loss aren't magnified as they are during the holiday season.


Name: Hutch
deepintheheart

Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 11:58:07
Comments:
Greetings and Happy Holidays to all my Dan friends!
I'm in San Antonio with my brother and his family for a few days.
Missed the Cousin Dupree premier but hope to hear it soon. Been giving some guitar lessons to my niece's husband. He's picking it up pretty fast. These Texans party hearty for sure. Last night the neighbors were having a big party with a DJ and lots of Tejano music with periodic YEEEEHAHHHs filling the air. Lots of fun.
Blessings to all!

Hutch


Name: YGK
..
Location: Back in NY, NY
Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 07:17:38
Comments:
......arrived back in the Apple this morning - approximately 8:45am - couldn't get out of the desolation of the Maryland suburbs fast enough; boarded a 6:30 train back home. Taking the Amtrak up to NYC is unique in that you get a steady shot of the twin towers and the full NYC skyline from just outside of Newark. Upon arriving at Penn, I quickly boarded my uptown train for home, but took time to notice the post holiday dreariness in this wonderful, lonely city. The question always resonates with me, as it has for years once I woke up from my parental protection/seclusion, "what's it all for? can we just all stop pretending?" I can't deal with all the fakery. I need reality. In New York, I saw people just getting by, many homeless in the subways this mornings.....wishing merry christmas in order to obtain guilt change. But they were all there, being who they are.....refreshing.....and it is home. Just as I am.

1 week from now we'll be in the New Frontier, a few days away from the Pre-order date. Did anyone figure out if that pre-order will deliver before 2/29?

Melancholy in Manhattan

ygk


Name: KD
onhoops.com

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 22:43:41
Comments:
Hey everyone, have a great Christmas and holiday season.

Going to Oz tomorrow, a good day and a half of flying and a lot of SD tapes to help make for an easier ride.

Peace and good will...don't use 'em lightly...


Name: oleander
among Eulipions

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 21:14:37
Comments:
Jeez, missed the whole KFOG episode, but thanx to the more quick-witted and alert who passed along the tip, including Andy & the Duck, and for the comments.

Prof SteveV--Thanx for the advice. I suppose I'll just wait until it's available here.

GKR--Greetings from the winter side! I'll be lookin' for it.

Stranger--whoa! I was simul-listening to IGY today, and to Patti Austin's version last night.

Hoops!--so sorry to hear about him. What a terrible struggle it must have been.

moray--hey man. good to hear you back.

JW, 'fred--JDub, thanx for the bio. Rahsaan Roland Kirk is one of my abiding heroes. I saw him a couple of times at Keystone Korner in San Francisco--one time after he'd had his first stroke, and was playing wistfully, beautifully on a flute he'd customized so he could play it with his functional hand. Todd Barkan, the prop. of the Korner, played on "Bright Moments." "Inflated Tear" is the most heartbreaking song in the world--it distills pathos to its most intense form. The whole album is so fine. He was able to blow not only multiple instruments at the same time but was the first to perfect circle breathing. I heard him hold notes for seemingly ever. You had to see it to believe it. He also could blow the wildest free jazz and switch immediately to a poignant ballad without missing a step (see "Volunteered Slavery"). "The Return Of The 5000 Pound Man" is a late effort (1975) which is a sweet reminiscence. I love his "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat"--with words yet. "The Case of the Three-Sided Dream In Audio Color" is probably the closest I or any other sighted person will come to understanding blindness. "A Standing Eight" is a good compilation. He was a unique, sightless visionary of the highest order.


Name: JWMalibu
www.boards.com

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 18:40:48
Comments:
Christmas Eve GB Compilation Report ~

~ Armadillo Digital is done with the project. I'm sending a messenger over the hill into the valley to pick it up on Monday...I can then ship on Tuesday morning.

~ I made an Office Depot run this afternoon on the way back from work and picked up Avery labels, "Mail Away" padded CD mailers and artistic letter stock for the inner booklet.

~ I formatted the credits into an four page double wide booklet; they came out very nice...you can acutally READ the darn thang!

~ I pulled the address database into Word and generated mailing labels, then assembled the entire thing. All I need to do is stuff 'em, stamp 'em and mail 'em!

MISSING MAILING ADDRESSES:
1. RixHex56
2. Mitch
3. JosieDanFan
4. JQSJR
5. Hank Silvers ~ mea culpa!
6. Doc Kelly

please mail to: JWMalibu@msn.com

Had to attend some festivities last night, so I missed "Cousin Dupree"...those in the know - please let us know if it's going to be played again!

Happy Holidays,

JDubs


Name: Q's Blast From The Past
FLAROOM

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 15:16:31
Comments:
Look at the company these guys used to keep - back in the twilight years of classic rock...........

http://home.tampbay.rr.com/danman1/sdrr.JPG

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/danman1/sdrr2.JPG


Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder who really put out the best LP that year ???????(and yes it was better than "Blood On The Tracks"!)

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/danman1/sdrr1.JPG

Happy Holidays and Peace to All,

Q


Name: Midnite Cruiser
MidniteCruiser@hotmail.com

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 13:10:23
Comments:
Andy....KFOG said last night that "the cage match" would be taking a few nights off so I don't think it'll be played at the same time tonight....I'm guessing it'll start to get pretty heavy play in the rotation considering the response though....thanks again for the tip off last night!

Merry Christmas to you all....we'll likely be back Sunday.

{{{HUGS}}} all around!

MC & Opti


Name: moray eel
KFOG details (for those who missed it)

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 13:07:54
Comments:
The DJ played the song and at the end he said, "Boy, that's some song. The end couldn't come soon enough.. err.. or long enough or whatever. I could have listened to it for 10 more minutes. Good song."

The first several callers were on cell phones, driving around doing their last minute Christmas shopping. They all voted for Steely Dan. Some of their comments were:

"I didn't know that they were making another album."

"If it has Becker and Fagen in the title(?) it's all right by me."

"I have 3 words for you: 'Steely'... 'Frickin''... 'Dan'."


One caller that voted for Eric Johnson said that she was a Steely Dan fan, but the she was disappointed with Cousin Dupree. Another caller said the song sounded "too poppy".

The DJ said that Cousin Dupree won the Cage Match 94% to 6% (pretty impressive when you consider that it blew away a Christmas tune on December 23rd) and that it would defend it's title in about a week because he was going on vacation.

m.e.


Name: F#maj9
Lydian/Mixolydian, whatever it takes

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 12:49:44
Comments:
YGK: will be talking to my brother this weekend- he will undoubtedly have suggestions [if not the old dot-dense spiral bound thing itself]. email your coordinates if you wish to:
w.side.studio@usa.net [stained glass] and i'll be most delighted to send you stuff.

cheers
F#


Name: Andy
The poll

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 11:59:40
Comments:
So Cousin Dupree won the cage match or whatever they're calling it. Does this mean they're playing it again at 8:30 PST tonight against another "challenger"? Come to think of it, they'll probably have some Christmas Eve stuff on. Any regular KFOG listeners out there have any ideas?

Hope everyone has a pleasant Christmas.

-Andy


Name: GrrlFred
ironyboard

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 11:54:00
Comments:
ha

went to the kfog link just in time to hear that Cousin Dupree got 94% over Eric's Firt Noel..

STILL haven't heard it. but did find a RRKirk double cd in the 11.99 and under bin at Tower... truly amazing.

anybody heard the elvis costello/burt bachrach/bill frisell (2 s's? hm)
cd?

mercy, mercy.


Name: TheStranger
90 minutes from NY to Paris

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 11:26:43
Comments:
Well, I guess I zigged when I should have zagged and missed that KFOG notification. That's what I get for working and buying presents for loved ones. Should have been glued to the gbook.

Anyway, this morning I was listening to Nightfly, which I haven't done for awhile and was once again knocked over by just how fine it is. What a Beautiful World this will be. I love it. There'll be spandex jackets, one for everyone. I've got my TAN ordered at Amazon and everything looks good for now.

Happy holidays to all.


Name: YGK
..

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 11:03:01
Comments:
Duck: but to be honest, really, KFOG's overall programming - other than the slight chance of hearing Cousin - is less than desirable....

Name: Miz Ducky
Now that I've gotten that out of my craw ...

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 10:30:27
Comments:
I hope y'all realize I have no problem whatsoever with the reasonable discussion of levels etc. that had been going on before the anonymous doomsayer decided to crash the party. Carry on, dudes and dudettes.

YGK: Ooooh! That is ***so*** Nightfly! I'm gonna have to keep listening to KFOG too ... I'm getting no response out of KMTT regarding the single so far.

/Miz Ducky
feathers un-ruffled now


Name: Miz Ducky
To the anonymous doomsayer

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 10:10:39
Comments:
... who keeps posting trash about the mix on 2vN, like he's showing off that he "somehow" has access to the new CD ahead of the rest of us: I've got two words for you: piss off.

No, I've got more than two words for you: if you can't show a good attitude and a recognizeable non-anonymous handle whereby you can be tracked on this GB via your reputation and track record, I for one have no use for you and your jive-ass opinions. And especially since I was listening last night and had absolutely no trouble hearing Don's vocal track, I personally believe you to be full of shit. Now get the hell out of here and get back on your meds, you're obviously decompensating and letting your dissociated-personality bullshit loose on the Web.

There. I've broken down and flamed on the GB. So shoot me if and etc.

My apologies to my friends on here, but this shit just irks the living shit out of me.

/Miz Ducky
remember, duck-bites can be nasty.


Name: Donald's vocals on the New One are mixed
much lower than Mick's on Exile on Main Street

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 07:24:16
Comments:
Donald must have had a reason for not wanted anyone to understand the words he's singing without a lyrics sheet.

Name: YGK
..

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 07:23:00
Comments:
Duck Chick: I'm all over KFOG about CD....the concept of "I'm listenin to you across the country - please entertain me" is one that is extra special for me and dates back to when I worked in radio and used to receive requests. Gazing over the city and all the lights, and trying to reach that listener is hauntingly special. I imagine the radio beacon broacasting through the fog in SF - a solitary experience.
I've e-mailed them a couple of times - I hope to hear it...

ygk


Name: Midnite Cruiser
MidniteCruiser

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 07:20:09
Comments:
after a good nights sleep I still think Cousin Dupree could be a nice funked up hit....nice track!....My wife said she dreamed she heard it last night (she was asleep when KFOG played the track last night)....I asked her what it sounded like in the dream and she said different from anything else they had done but cool. I told her what I posted last night....I don't think there was any new ground broken by the boys but it's a good song and I feel like it's going to be a really good album.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

MC & Optimystic


Name: Donald's vocals are buried in the mix
on ALL the songs on the New One

Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 at 07:13:52
Comments:
And he mumbles through most of them. They lyrics are mostly unintelligable. What a shame about the mix. It ruins the album.

Name: Miz Ducky
vote often and early

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 23:17:23
Comments:
DrMu: Yeah, it does seem like KMTT's RealAudio link is a little cleaner than KFOG's (RealAudio has several modes that suck dead warthogs IMO--especially their attempts at stereo). And the KFOG WinMediaPlayer feed was cleaner than both. And I don't have an especially terrific soundcard/speaker set on my 'puter either. But then again, as I said before I think I've got weirdly sensitive hearing anyway (not necessarily to the point of hearing dog whistles, but getting there ... ).

Anyhow, I just emailed Fisher at KMTT that "we" can't let the Bay Area get away with this coolness coup, and that I'm counting on him to uphold Seattle's and KMTT's honor by playing the single ASAP!!!

BTW--what are you doing starting to make a lasagna this late in the evening? All-nighter cooking for the holidays? Good luck! Been there, done that--fun in a masochistic way, but exhausting!

KD: Overwhelming? Well, maybe not quite that. But I'm still pretty jazzed and excited a good couple hours later, so that
should tell ya *something*!

(I'll also be the first to admit that there's a sort of Harriet-the-spy secret-decoder-ring aspect to all this that I find a real laugh, in addition to enjoying the music.)

YGK: Sorry, dude! I need your decoder-ring code! :-)

/Miz Ducky
gathering intel


Name: DrMu
make mine a double

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 22:41:53
Comments:
m.e. I think Cousin Dupree could be a hit...funkier than The Symbol has been lately

kd: Don't get us wrong - it's damn fine. I prefer vocals up in the mix as in The Nightfly or Gaucho or Flordia Room when compare to Trans-Island Skyway. I think what we heard on Real Audio was not as true as the stream Miz Ducky heard on the Windows Media Player. I noticed that KMTTs link had far superior fidelity. Is that me? when will thy play it? could Fisher stand being upstaged by the Bay?


Name: YGK
..

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 22:19:54
Comments:
Logged on to KFOG too late for the cut, but left a message and sent an e-mail to be notified.....
if only I had given the Duck-chick my remote e-mail, I would've known....

psyched!, and bummed....

ygk


Name: KD
onhoops.com
Location: remember, , Mick
Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 22:13:13
Comments:
Jagger's vocals were mixed low on 'Exile' too...

Name: KD
onhoops.com
Location: I missed it,
Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 21:55:00
Comments:
damn.

Nothing too overwhelming, though, from what I can tell from you guys...


Name: moray eel
Thank you, KFOG

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 21:39:26
Comments:
I agree that the Aja comparison was off. I think it sounds like Tomorrow's Girls and Wet Side Story. Good song with all the Steely elements:

-A touch of funk
-Sweet harmonies
-Twisted lyrics
-And some melodic surprises

Good stuff, Stanley.

m.e.


Name: Miz Ducky
low vocals???

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 21:25:51
Comments:
You know, I keep hearing this from any number of people whose opinions I respect, that this or that cut has Donald's vocals too far back in the mix, and I confess I've never heard this. Then again, I'm notorious for ***not*** boosting the bass on ***any*** of my pop/rock listening, because, frankly, I feel I can more fully hear all the textures and *stuff* happening in a song's full range without the bass blatting it all out. (I have reason to believe I also have rather more over-sensitive hearing than a lot of people--there have been some Incidents :-) ).

Not trying to start anything with anybody at all here--just wondering out loud. I mean, the only hearing I can possibly know is my own, y'know?

Also, to be making a distinction between low-volume level and low pitch: I noticed that in "Cousin Dupree" Don was singing mainly in the lower octave of his range, which I like a lot, but as a singer myself I can tell you that *everyone's* voice sounds a little quieter down there, all other things being equal.

Eh--I was listening through Windows Media Player and the vocal track sounded just right-level to me. But again--dunno if that's my weird ears, or my turning down the bass habit, or what.

/Miz Ducky
it's a puzzlement!


Name: DrMu
widda da spicy meatballs

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 21:07:33
Comments:
Yes, Miz Ducky that's gotta be Walter on the solo. Donald's vocals were in the right channel, and the broadcast of the right channel on the Real Crappy Audio was attenuated...so don't give up guys - the vocals may in reality be higher...If the CDs aren't pressed yet, they should punch 'em up. I agree - first 3 songs + Tomorrow's Girls had the vocals too low in the mix on Kama.

Lasagna sauce is burnin'... gotta go

Peace y'all


Name: Miz Ducky
That was indeed f#$%ing kewl!

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 21:00:04
Comments:
Immediate first impression of "Cousin Dupree:" SCORE!!!

Slightly more detailed impressions: for my money, this isn't so much a throwback to "Aja" as a natural progression from the stuff Don and Walt have been doing since then--in their solo stuff, and on the road (i.e. the new material as well as the revamps of old songs). In fact, the uptempo boogie-ing keyboard riff reminds me very slightly of the one from "Wetside Story" that I liked so well--glad they salvaged it! And Donald's doing some of that more soulful stuff with his vocal that I love so much on Kamakiriad (think the intro to "Springtime", for instance) as well as the live show work. What else? Ditto Midnite Cruiser re the rocking guitar solo--I'm laying bets that was Walt on the axe there. AHHHHHHH! Feels so good!!! Wanna hear it again! Wah!!!

Thanks, youze guys, for sharing these moments of madness together. Isn't it just too bitchin' kewl or what?

/Miz Ducky


Name: Midnite Cruiser
yetagain

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 20:54:27
Comments:
I'm a huge Eric Johnson fan and that was a beautiful rendition of "The First Noel" but Steely Dan kicked it's ass:

Cousin Dupree --- 94%
The First Noel --- 6%

I LIKE IT!!!!

now it really is bedtime......peace......I'm outtie.


Name: jk
jk

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 20:52:08
Comments:
low vocals -absolutely. Whats with fagen? Get those vocals up! there are some low ones on kama to!!

jk


Name: moray eel
1st impression

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 20:48:03
Comments:
Fagen vocals are barely audible. Kamakiriadish groove. Typical Steely Dan song. Top 40? Doubtful.

m.e.


Name: VOTE NOW
!!!

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 20:44:21
Comments:
1-800-300-KFOG

vote for Cousin Dupree now!!!

yipeeeeee!!!!!!!


Name: DrMu
Pass the Chesterfield Kings

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 20:44:02
Comments:
through the fog...the sweetness we've been longing for!! Thanks for the heads up guyz. Real nice song. I have to say that through the tinny Real Audio, that cut doesn't emulate much of Aja. It sounds more like a flushed out version of the better songs on 11 TOW with the full Dan treatment and Donald at the lead vocals...Cringemaker is the song it reminds me of most. Can't wait to hear it in full hi-fi sound.

Name: jk
jk

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 20:42:39
Comments:
yeah baby! heard the song but did they mention bsides or release dates??????

haw about a kiss for your kousin KFOG!!!!!!!!!!!

Are they going to keep playing it?

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Name: Midnite Cruiser
Christmas Came Early!!!

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 20:40:13
Comments:
Was that fuckin' cool or WHAT?????

I loved the rythym guitar and the really funky lead guitar parts! At first I thought it was a little too solo Donald sounding but by the second verse I was tapping my toes and the solos were oh so tasty.....Man, Christmas really did come early for me this year!

*grinnin' from ear to ear*

oh yeah, let me go on vote now!!!


Name: Midnite Cruiser
CAGE MATCH NEXT!!!!

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 20:26:54
Comments:
HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KFOG RULES!!!


Name: Andy
Cousin Dupree Premiere

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 20:17:22
Comments:
KFOG will be premiering "Cousin Dupree" in 15 minutes -- 8:30 PST. Listen to it at http://www.broadcast.com/radio/adult_album_alternative/kfog/

-Andy


Name: moray eel
KFOG in San Fran

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 20:08:31
Comments:
If you want to hear Cousin Dupree, tune into KFOG
in San Francisco now (Dec. 23rd, ~11:30 pm EST). They will
be playing it in a few minutes against an Eric Johnson track.

You can pick them up on the net.

m.e.


Name: Midnite Cruiser
MidniteCruiser@hotmail.com
Location: Danville, VA
Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 19:58:56
Comments:
Andy & Miz Ducky....I'm listening now too....I've been up 20 hours and am really whipped but I'm trying to make it....btw, the in-laws are here and I don't think they appreciate me ignoring them to listen for this song.

hey, a guy has got to have his priorities....to quote Frasier Crane: "I'm listening".

thanx for the tip Andy!


Name: Andy
Okay...

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 19:42:38
Comments:
Maybe I did get the time wrong, math never was my strong suit ;-). If anyone out there is capable of taping the broadcast from the Real Audio feed, PLEASE do so. My computer's setup won't allow me to do so, so I have my trusty microcasette recorder next to my speakers. Even better, if anyone in the Bay Area is reading this, would it be too much to ask to record the track from your radio? Keep listening...

-Andy


Name: Miz Ducky
Cousin Dupree on KFOG--addendum

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 19:26:08
Comments:
Andy: Dude! I'm listening to KFOG over the Net too right now, and I could have sworn the DJ just said he'd be spinning Cousin Dupree at 8:30 PST, not 7:30! (Some Premiere slot they apparently have).

No worries--if they don't play it at 7:30, it's a real nice-sounding station, so it's no hardship staying tuned in for an hour extra. The important thing is that, sooner or later they *will* play this puppy tonight!

Aaaaarooooooo!!!

/Miz Ducky
a tad excited


Name: 8:30
.

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 19:21:15
Comments:
Hey Andy - thanks for that heads-up. I went straight to the KFOG RealAudio stream, and just heard the DJ say they're playing the New Steely Dan at 8:30, not 7:30. (I'll be listening both times, just in case)

Name: Andy
Cousin Dupree -- LISTEN UP!!

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 18:50:40
Comments:
Right now it's 9:45 EST. I'm listening to KFOG, San Francisco via Real Audio. They played "Cousin Dupree" this afternoon and said that they will play it again at 10:30 PM EST (7:30 Pacific Time). Listen to KFOG via RealAudio at http://www.broadcast.com/radio/adult_album_alternative/kfog/

-Andy


Name: ****************************
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 18:19:22
Comments:
Ole- your so full of shit

hope your fever dreams, just that.

good luck in your personal journey.

Call St. Al , he will clarify for you.

Razor Boy


Name: hoops
hoops@interaccess.com

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 16:45:41
Comments:
Several folks have written to the Dandom Digest to say that KFOG in San Francisco is playing 'Cousin Dupree.' It's described as sounding Aja-like by both who wrote in. KFOG can be gotten via the net if you are out of the area.

Wow wow wow! Hope I hear this in Chicago this weekend. I'm so excited...to hell with Xmas gifts...I want 2vN or I'd even settle for the Cousin Dupree single.

hoops


Name: hoops
hoops@interaccess.com

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 16:42:46
Comments:
I put up a tribute page to Dan Rinehart at http://dandom.music.uiuc.edu--follow the links. Drop his wife a line at dan1suz@aol.com

Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 14:58:35
Comments:
Hoops - How very, very sad. It's always a sorrowful event when someone dies, but it's especially tragic when it's someone that young. Have you written to the ODP about this? D&W would probably appreciate knowing about Dan's demise.

Aja - Thanks for your kind wishes, and I hope you have a good holiday too. I am, as always, enjoying the loving attention of my cats and will spend a quiet few days cleaning my apartment and doing some business-related things.


Name: David/Fla/Rm
FLA@Rm

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 14:48:26
Comments:
Custard Dome-Lovely Story, Thanks
D

Name: hoops
hoops@interaccess.com

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 12:34:40
Comments:
Got some really sad news today. Those of you at the 1996 Chicago area shows may remember "Steely" Dan Rinehart. He had the huge Montero Sport Ute that we had a danvention out of at Alpine. He, along with his wife, Suzanne, were included in that backstage photo with Maggi and D + W at the "Midwestern" World Theatre on Aug. 2, 1996.

Suzanne just emailed me that Dan passed awayovernight in St. Louis of leukemia. (I wasn't aware that he was ill.) I'm not sure of his age but I believe he was in his mid to late 20s. Suzanne plans to bury him wearing the SD T-shirt D + W autographed for him back stage at the World Theatre in 1996.

Maggi tells me that they are already playing the new one in heaven. Now Dan hears it before us too.

hoops


Name: aja
dreaming of a white Christmas

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 12:03:50
Comments:
Happy Holidays to all my fellow Danizens! I'm so happy to have found such an interesting, eclectic bunch who love to obsess on the Dan. Thanks especially to JWMalibu for all the hard work-can't wait to hear the creativity that was generated from everyone's souls/fingers/synapses.

Breeeezemaster-thanks! I especially loved the part about there being plenty of interpretive material for the hardcore-looks like we'll have plenty to talk about at Danfest.

Hope the holidays find everyone relaxed and with loved ones!


aja


Name: custard
dome

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 11:06:33
Comments:
EDITION: EP GREATER BRISTOL

SECTION: News, Pg.6

LENGTH: 618 words

HEADLINE: Steely Dan, Bristol Hippodrome, 1974;
My best gig; Win a crate of beer and a bottle of wine

BODY:


IN 1974, I wasn't old enough to drink so, in common with all my friends who were about to face the unpleasant reality of leaving school, I never
touched a drop of alcohol.

In fact, it was considerably more than a drop, but that's by the by. My real passions at the time were football and music.

More specifically, Bristol Rovers and the legendary American band Steely Dan. It is not often that the supporters' club of your favourite team,
especially one as humble as the Rovers, acts as promoter to your all-time favourite band, but in May 1974 that's exactly what happened.

In the 70s and early 80s, the Hippodrome and Colston Hall were a match for most concert halls and theatres in the land. There were no NECs,
Arenas or G -Mex Centres, so Bristol was on an even playing field when the big rock bands toured and when they toured they usually came here.

In order to keep up to date with the music scene, I was buying four magazines a week. This ensured that I didn't miss out on any tour news.

It was more than I could hope for when it was announced that Steely Dan were to tour Britain. My friend Nick and I spent all the money we had -
and quite a lot we didn't have - on tickets to the Dan shows at Sheffield City Hall, London Rainbow Theatre and the Bristol Hippodrome.

To top all this, when the advertisement appeared in the Evening Post, not only did it mention the name of the band and the support act - Kiki Dee -
but the heading went something along the lines of 'Bristol Rovers Supporters Club proudly present ... Steely Dan.' I mean, Bristol Rovers
promoting the greatest band on earth, famous for Do It Again, Reelin' In the Years, Showbiz Kids! But it was true.

And they didn't disappoint. The regular five-piece band was enhanced by Michael McDonald on keyboards and vocals and Jeff Porcaro, later to
become the drummer in Toto. They did all the hits, all our favourite album tracks - they even did a new song called 'I'm not your mobile home',
which was never released and I only ever heard twice but I can still hum the riff today! They were as tight as the proverbial duck's bottom, quite
breathtaking. And then it was over.

After the show, we agreed that we'd miss the last bus home and try and get their autographs. We stood outside the stage door and they came out,
Donald Fagen and Walter Becker and the rest of the band. They even went into the chip shop in Denmark Street and Donald ordered 'some of your
pie and chips'. The guitar player Jeff "Skunk" Baxter was last on to the bus carrying a huge crate of beer. Soon they were gone.

A few days later we saw the band at the Rainbow Theatre, London, and they were just as good. And a few days after that we took the train to
Sheffield to see them yet again, but now Donald Fagen had a sore throat and the rest of the tour was cancelled. Waiting for our train home, Nick
and I went to the pictures and saw Zardoz, one of Sean Connery's more bizarre movies. We arrived back in Bristol at 5. 00am, the train having
broken down in the Severn Tunnel. (I never did understand what we were doing in the Severn Tunnel when travelling between Sheffield and
Bristol).

In 1996, Steely Dan returned to England. This time we had to go to Wembley Arena to see them because Bristol has still got the Hippodrome and
Colston Hall but now everyone else has got their NECs, Arenas and G-Mex Centres and no -one of any real stature comes to Bristol. The band still
did all the hits and the show was really great but time loves a hero and for me nothing will ever beat Bristol Rovers Supporters Club Proudly
Present Steely Dan. That was the night it all came together.

Rick Johansen,

Parsons Avenue,

Stoke Gifford


Name: YGK
..

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 10:50:31
Comments:
F#maj9: any chance you know where or how I can get ahold of the Lydian Chromatic Technique book you mentioned? I just got a few jazz theory books for solstice, but am looking to expand the knowledge as much as possible....if not, any other suggestions?
I still have room and functioning synapses for quick absorbtion....

ygk


Name: F#maj9
insynch@inpsych

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 10:38:25
Comments:
JWM: roger that b-i-g time. became aware of doubleR K when i was a wee laddeee and all these beeboppping thangs came flying out of older bro's room [flutist/flautist/bassclarinetter]. My brother would ease on in at 8am [from a night out] with weird music books under his arm [eg. "Lydian Chromatic Technique"] and emerge hours later from his room and say somthing like: "...it's dark?". You know.

Anywhooo, he tells me that there's this jazz guy who has been reeking havoc in the NYC area, committing acts of geurilla guerrilla go-rilla gigging... essentially, showing up with his boys during a live show and walking onto the stage [this as a way to draw attention to the slighting of the jazz idiom by the "mainstream", ain't it the truth] and that none other than Ed Sullivan Hisself had been "given fair warning" that such a walk-on-take-over thang might occur during his variety show.

To avoid any weirdness, Ed [to whom my Ukranian-immigrant grandmother used to refer as "Ned Solomon"] went ahead and BOOKED Mr.Kirk. smart.

Kirk played for about 3 minutes, the last act brought out at the end of the hour. I remember him introducing Archie Shepp to the audience.. which sat there agape, without reaction... Kirk began to turn away but then leaned back to the one mic set before the ensemble and sternly announced, "I SAID... Archie SHEPP..." and everyone began to clap [or else???] That, fellow danizens, is what was known in my neighborhood as "the 'tude".

thought you might enjoy that. might anyone [who wasn't wearing pjs with footies at the time] do a better job w/same or similar anecdotes?

Oh- and Ed Sullivan introduced him as "errRAMMson rrROland Kirk"!

MizD: the first step is to admit that you are powerless over the Dan.

F#stoons


Name: YGK
..

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 10:34:34
Comments:
JW: if RRK died in 77, what's with all the recordings up until recently?

ygk


Name: minah
waiting@theirvinemeadowsparkinglot

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 10:33:37
Comments:
Merry Holidays guestbook-like folks, & thanks Oh Sainted One for another year of net diversion...

Oh-thee-of-leeyander-She's great! thanks, no use for the ipecac yet!

Stevie-d:Nice list, amazing how similar the danfan taste runs...

F#M7:Help yourself to those Push-ups buddy, they're in the ice chest next to the Ralph's Port.

Laughing all the way,
mW


Name: YGK
..

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 10:18:10
Comments:
Duckmistress: problem? what problem? you seem 'normally' twisted to me.....

ygk


Name: DrMu
what if Ian played standing on 2 feet?

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 10:16:45
Comments:
JW: Living in the Past always seemed a half-decent imitation of a jazz artist. Now I know who!! Excellent story about Roland Kirk...I loved it when he cursed out the Tull fans - when I was 25 I thought Aqualung was great stuff also... I checked out the Roland Kirk site and Wow!...what an artist! "Bright Moments" is now near the tope of the ol' wish list with a bullet.

Breeeez: Thanks for the info


Name: GirlFred
blushing

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 08:54:01
Comments:
sincerely chagrined for referring to Roland Kirk as 'the guy'.

shees.

thanks, JW.

GF


Name: Miz Ducky
mizducky@drizzle.com

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 08:52:20
Comments:
Breezemaster: my thanks too for the Toronto Globe and Mail piece! Too bad the paper didn't see fit to post the full thing on their website (I looked). And I got a giggle out of the interviewer's take on those nasty offices Walter bitches about so eloquently in the "MSAing in Action" communique (this cubicle must have lacked any Sting posters obnoxious enough to mention, I guess).

JWMalibu: my thanks too for all that info on Rahsaan Roland Kirk. How intense! (Gad, more CDs to go spend my money on ... well, at least I'll not be tempted anymore to replace my long-lost Jethro Tull vinyl!)

FWIW, John Fisher on KMTT-FM Seattle is now regularly announcing the SD taping in January (if announcing it twice in two mornings counts as "regular"). Yesterday morning I was a little bleary when the blurb went by, but this morning I was awake enough to get the gist: Fisher refered to it as a "private" taping, said he's going to be attending and taking some KMTT listeners with him, and that more details would be available after the 1st of the year. Sounds like a contest scenario to moi!

Oh. My. God.

Am I really going to spend a week or more glued to my Walkman 24/7 listening to this one radio station for clues? Or writing doofy 25-word essays on why I am the most deserving duck in the universe to go to this taping? Or punching auto-redial on my phone over and over until my index finger is worn down to the second knuckle? Or whatever other sadistic mayhem Fisher and his partner West dream up to torture the Seattle-area Dandom in order to earn these precious tickets? ...

You bet your sweet ARP I am.

Oy. Do I ever have it bad.

/Miz Ducky
realizing that the first step is admitting that one has a problem, but not seeing any need to take any other steps (um, what other steps? I don't see any other steps ... )


Name: YGK
..

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 08:21:26
Comments:
JW - wonderful, wonderful piece....lost of musical references to do research on .... you ROCK!

ygk


Name: Songs about Incest and Necrophilia?
The New One is mellow,

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 07:39:28
Comments:
but Donald and Walter are still extremely twisted individuals. Nice work guys!

Name: Good King Richard
Two with Nature

Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 02:38:06
Comments:
Seems like I've been just lurking for some time, enjoying the emotional ups and downs of the GB, but it's been a bit of a tangentially Dan-day, today topped off by a nice late evening read of the GB while the rain comes down: Almost run over crossing the road by a van with the signage: 'Dan and Dan - Forestry and Landscaping (+61 2 6259 9995 if you want to call - after hours number gets you to someone whose initials are RIP, well, I had to check in the phone book!), squeezed my daughter into her Danfest Barrytown High T-shirt... now a bit short for her pot belly. The Good Queen mentioned she voiced a few ads for the holiday break today and her normally down-the-line Elton, Billy and Celine '70s-80s and Today' station was about to play some Dan (probably for the first time in a decade) and finally Ole, I posted your DMB CD package (not sure how 'rare' it is though). All good omens for the holiday break. KD: have a nice time in Muswellbrook (pop. 9988).. going for the wine? or the stud museum?!

Anyway, have a great Xmas break everyone, looking ahead to a vintage year!

Richard&kangaroos


Name: matt
matthew.scuffham@dowjones.com
Location: London, U.K.
Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 00:38:11
Comments:
Zeke, Mitch--I agree with you regarding My Rival and Josie respectively.

Truth is, Aja and Gaucho are great albums which have no weak tracks but for the purpose of that list, I had to pick one from each.

I think I've just heard Josie too many times. Interestingly, though, WB says on Making of Aja that it is still one of the tracks he most enjoys playing live.

I, too, love the vocals and percussion on My Rival and it was hard to put that one on there.

Fans in the U.K. may be interested to know that London's GLR station are promising to play something off TvN on January 3rd in the programme starting at 2pm.

The Toronto Globe and Mail piece has really stoked up my anticipation. I'm glad to hear there will be no radical departure in style but i'm sure there will be suprises nonetheless.


Name: JWMalibu
*

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 23:32:07
Comments:
GirlFred ~ The guy they were referring to was Rahsaan Roland Kirk: b. Columbus, Ohio, 7th Aug 1936 -- d. 5th Dec 1977)
Kirk was blinded soon after his birth, and was educated at Ohio State School for the Blind. He played saxophone and clarinet with a school band from the age of twelve, and by 1951 was leading his own group for dances and playing with other bands around the Ohio area. At sixteen he dreamed he was playing three instruments at once, and the next day went to a music shop and tried out all the reed instruments. He was taken to the basement to be shown "the scraps", and found two archaic saxophones which had been used in turn-of-the-century Spanish military bands, the stritch and the manzello; the first is a kind of straight alto sax, and the second looks a little like an alto, but sounds more like a soprano. Kirk took these and worked out a way of playing them simultaneously with the tenor sax, producing three-part harmony by trick fingering. As there were often slight tuning discrepancies between the three instruments, the resulting sound could be harsh, almost with the characteristic of certain ethnic instruments, and this gave Kirk's music an added robustness. He also used sirens, whistles and other sounds to heighten the drama of his performances.

He made his first album in 1956, but it went virtually unnoticed. Then in 1960, through the help of Ramsey Lewis, he recorded for the Cadet label, and immediately caused controversy.People accused him of gimmmickry, and Kirk defended himself, saying that he did everything for a reason, and he heard sirens and things in his head when he played. He was, in fact, rooted very deeply in the whole jazz tradition, and knew all the early music, including thre work of Jelly Roll Morton (and Fats Waller) in which sirens, whistles, car horns and human voices had figured to brilliant effect. For Kirk, jazz was "black classical music", and he steeped in its wild, untamed spirit; in this he was "pure" - there were virtually no discernible influences from European classical music in his work.
In 1961 he worked with Charles Mingus for four months, playing on the album Oh Yeah and touring with him in California. His international reputation was burgeoning, and after his stint with Mingus he made his first trip to Europe, performing as soloist at the Essen Jazz Festival, West Germany. From 1963 he began a series of regular tours abroad with his own quartet, and played the first of several residencies at Ronnie Scott's club. For the rest of the 1960s and into the 1970s he led his group the Vibration Society in clubs, concerts and major festivals throughout the USA, Canada, Europe, Australia and New Zealand.

In 1975, Kirk had a stroke which partially paralysed one side of his body. With tremendous courage he began performing again with one arm - an almost impossible handicap for a saxophonist - and he managed to tour internationally, play some festivals and appear on TV. In 1977 a second stroke caused his death.

Kirk was much loved, not only by his audiences but also by other musicians. He was unclassifiable: a completely original performer whose style carried in it the whole of jazz history from early New Orleans roots, through swing and bebop, to the abstraction of the 1960s and 1970s avant-garde. Throughout his career he recorded tributes to people he particularly loved, and they included Fats Waller, Billie Holiday, Duke Ellington, Lester Young, Thelonious Monk, Sidney Bechet, Don Byas, Roy Haynes, Charles Mingus, Clifford Brown, Barney Bigard and John Coltrane. Yet he could be classified neither as a traditionalist nor as an avant-gardist; his music was always of the present, but contained the essence of past forms. Even in the 1990s his music does not sound dated - it sounds ever-present, beyond time. Playing one instrument - either tenor sax or the manzello - Kirk showed clearly that he was one of the great improvisers. He was an enthusiast who was always listening and learning, and he was generous in his encouragement of aspiring young musicians. He was a composer of memorable tunes: some of the better-known ones are "From Bechet, Byas and Fats", "No Tonic Pres", "Bright Moments", "Let Me Shake Your Tree", "The Inflated Tear".
J.E. Berendt said that Kirk had "all the wild untutored quality of a street musician coupled with the subtlety of a modern jazz musician", and Michael Ullman wrote: "Hearing him, one can almost feel that music, like the Lord in 'Shine On Me', can 'heal the sick and raise the dead'."
For a great site on Kirk, go to: www.alfanet.hu/kirk/index2.html
JW note: As a flutist growing up in the '60s, I was entranced with the music of Jethro Tull, and learned Ian Anderson licks like a journeyman guitarist studying Hendrix or Clapton...little did I know at that time, but Anderson's "overblowing/double-tonguing/sing-playing shtick" was a blatant rip-off of Kirk's style.
In the bio "Bill Graham Presents", movie director ("The Accused") Jonathan Kaplan tells a great anecdote from the Fillmore Years...
"The best show I ever saw at Fillmore East, just from an interest point of view, was Roland Kirk opening for Jethro Tull. Here was Roland Kirk, a genuis. Without question, the greatest musician that ever set foot inside the Fillmore. Just in terms of sheer technical brilliance. He could play anything. And here was this very white, very nice English guy. Ian Anderson. Very bright and very sardonic, who picked up the flute because he figured that was how he was going to become a rock star. Because there were already too many guitarists. Basically, he copied Roland Kirk. One of (Kirk's) many styles was Ian Anderson's ONLY style. Roland Kirk was getting paid maybe one-eighth of what Jethro Tull was getting. After the first night, Kirk was in a rage the whole time. He would get the audience going by saying, "Who's this?" And he would play somebody's style and they would guess. And he would say, "You funky, stupid white-ass motherfuckers!"...And he would play all of Jethro Tull's songs in like two minutes...BETTER than them. And he would say, "That's right. How come I'm getting paid one-eighth of what those guys are getting?"
The thing is that the guy could just be standing backstage and he would have two saxophones and some new African instrument he had found. Just him warming up would make you cry. The guy has so much poetry inside of him..."

Name: GirlFred
counting

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 22:58:46
Comments:
11 30 haircut
1 00 cousin and what a shame (!)
1 01 listen
later resist posting anything about it here.

beignets? ah. that reminds me.. café du monde sells in a tiny little shop here for 3.59/15 oz can. just across town, they get 9 bucks for the same.

season's parties were all great - especially the last one.

the best tho was that 2 week gig with the flecktones. i came in one night, heard two saxes, counted cars outside .. no extras (no roger on this one, either.. he had good stories during 'left of cool'). They come down for dinner and I ask about the other sax.. Bela says, "Oh, that was Jeff playin two. Got the idea from (hmm don't remember the guy's name...) who was blind and was known to be able to play three at once.

It was funny.. here on the GB, there were a couple of days of angular banjo talk, with cookies from Mrs. Fleck. B says it wasn't really his mom ....

wish you all the best. i think the gb's about to explode with new kids.

fondlyFred


Name: Stevie Dan
under banyan trees w/laksa

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 21:45:27
Comments:
Oleander:
unfortunately VHS pal will NOT work on US vcr's......but there are many palces to get it transferred (but they mite charge you more than the price of video....yadah yadah, yadah.....

I'll look for it on bootleg DVD here in Singapore....let you know if i find anything

....


Name: Stevie Dan
in Singapore rainstorm

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 21:40:18
Comments:
The best albums of the late 20th Century by year are: (in my opinion,and posted strictly from memory mind you);
1970-'Let it be'-Beatles 9all right I'm a sentimentalist)
1971-IV- Led Zeppelin
1972-Talking Book-Stevie Wonder
1973-Innervisions-Stevie Wonder tie w/Countdown to Ecstasy
1974-The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway-Genesis (ancient Peter Gabriel w/Eno(?)
1975-Physical graffitti-Led Zeppelin (intense, funky)
1976-Songs In the Key of Life-Stevie Wonder
1977-Aja-Steely Dan (honourable mention; Live at the Bijou-Grover Washington jr.)
1978-My Aim Is True-Elvis Costello
1979-Fear of Music-Talking Heads
1980-Gaucho-Steely Dan
1981-Ghost in the machine-Police
1982-Pelican West-Haircut 100 tie w/The Nightfly
1983-No Parlez-paul Young
1984-My Ever Changing Moods-Style Council
1985-Flaunt the Imperfection-China Crisis
1986-So-Peter gabriel
1987-Nothing Like the sun-Sting
1988-Private Revolution-World Party
1989-Revolutions-Jean-Michel jarre
1990-Seeds of Love
1991-Rhymthns of the Saints-Paul Simon
1992-Pocketful of Kryptonite-Spin Doctors
1993-Drive (lp)-REM
1994-11 tracks of Whack-Walter Becker
1995-Amplified heart-EBTG
1996-Seal-Seal
1997-Red,Hot + Rio-Various
1998-Heavy Soul-Paul Weller
1999-Brand New day-Sting- hon.mention(Dead bees on cake-David Sylvian)

2000-Two Against nature-Steely Dan (I've already heard the album in hallucinegenic dreams caused by consuming too much thc between 1977-1994)/.....
anyway...Happy Holidays, pagan or otherwise and please check out my Steely bibliography at http://www.geocities.com/stephenvincent/steely.htm it's fun, its cool its free...information!!!


Name: oleander
way beyond the sea

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 21:33:22
Comments:
Matt, Franky--welcome. It's funny how different tastes run even within Dandom.

Mu, F#--I'm with you on the millennium. How about let's go someplace warm and far away next New Year's Eve?

jk--great list. Are the halter tops for the band?

RS--Wow. You just sent me on a Proustian journey with 2 songs, "Come Go With Me," which I can see is going to play in my head for at least the next week, and "Just My Imagination," one of the greatest indeed, which I heard them do at the IMA Auditorium in Flint, Michigan on the reunion tour. All the women in the audience were singing along like a choir of angels.

Zeke--hey mon. If there's a concert in Nawlins, I'll be beating a path to your door! Get that hot grease ready for the beignets!

aja--I thought the interviews were OK, since I only had one, but the thing itself was something else altogether. Would be glad to talk to you about it sometime. Gotta give you props for going for it!

Breezemeister--whoa! Many many thanks! Great article--I can just hear them.

YGK--As a veteran DanFester, I have to tell you that the rules are: 1) all participants and their pets, spouses, SO's, and other hangers-on must stay at your place, usually for less than a week; and 2) you have to buy the first two rounds and the melted butter. Everything else is up for grabs.

Kinky--so are you up for it?

Lots of good stuff on the Digest this time--a fair amount of it from here! Thanx Hoops! Does anyone know if "Pal VHS" is compatible with US VCR's? If so, the making of Aja is available from www.blackstar.co.uk

Happy Solstice, indeed. I feel better already.


Name: JWMalibu
'Da CDMeister

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 21:28:14
Comments:
Hey All! Just wanted to give you guys a progess report on the GB Compilation...

- I spoke with Steve Katz over at Armadillo today. Everything transferred successfully from the source CDs/DATs/cassettes to the master CD! He got the levels as close to one another as possible, without having to do any excessive compressing or limiting. Steve normalized the cassette transfers, and compensated for the Dolby on the tapes that had it. He says out stuff sounds pro, and was impressed by our collective eclectic talent.

- He had slight problems with the traycard, which frankly I don't understand why - I measured correctly; maybe the software he uses enlarges the graphic ever so slightly. The net/net on on the traycard is that the tiny lettering on the spines are slightly cut off. We also had to jettison the disc graphics; lettering only for this particular package deal...no biggie though. The single-fold insert booklet (really the important graphic) came out like a charm! The printed interior with credits will be in nice, large print...unlike some, which you practically need a magnifying glass to read.

- I anticipate that he should be done by Christmas Eve. In the meantime, I'm going to get a jump-start on buying those bubble-wrap interior CD mailers & printing out labels for the mailing. Assuming everything runs smoothly, I should be able to ship early next week, and some of you should be able relax to the sounds of the GB Compilation during the Y2K meltdown!

Happy & safe holidays to all!


Name: Sinatra
At the Rat Park

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 20:39:37
Comments:

What the hell is "Come Go With Me", paly baby? A song about pissing with a buddy? Maybe 'yer thinkin' of my song, "Come Fly With Me", or "Come Dance With Me". Get with the program, Chester. Right now I gotta nail me a couple of ghost broads.

Frankie


Name: TheStranger
Big Moon Tonight

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 20:05:08
Comments:
Breezmster,
Thanks for the report out of Canada.

I am starting to believe Two Against Nature is real. I just ordered it from Amazon (to be delivered when available).


Name: Roy.Scam
no.visigoths.or.spiders.allowed

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 19:19:35
Comments:
A little pre-Dan trivia: What song by The Band recorded 5 or 6 years before Katy Lied, mentioned the term 'chain lightning' in the apocalyptic lyric: "Chain lightning, frightening as it may seem, should not be mistaken for just another dream." ?

My nominees for pop song of 99: "Feeling Good Again" by Robert Earle Keene, "Meet Virginia" by Train, "L.A. Song" Beth Hart, "Magic" Ben Folds Five, "All the Way to Heaven" by Guster.

Album of the 80s: Nightfly

Album of the 70s: Countdown to Ecstacy, Blood on the Tracks, Good Old Boys, Aja, The Band

Album of the 60s: Highway 61, MMT, Revolver, Hendrix Experience

Single of the 60s: Just My Imagination

Single of the 50s: Come Go With Me

At peace with my own opinions,

R.S.


Name: Mayor Rudy
N.Y. is Dantastic

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 13:20:48
Comments:

Happy Holidays to everyone in Danland. I hear that we are the favorite so far in the latest poll for the Danfest. Manhatten Skyline, Rockefeller Plaza, Little Italy, Chinatown, The LadY, the Delie`s, the shopping, The Rockettes, we got it all baby , and its a beautiful thing ! I forgot to mention that Iam gonna beat Hilary....... and you can bet on it.......I LOVE N.Y.

Name: MITCH
Hey Matt........ get a band

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 12:53:17
Comments:

Matt, I think you have way to many songs on your don`t like list to call yourself a DanFan......Josie is funkiest SD cut ever made.

Name: um
also

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 12:01:19
Comments:
" since Becker recently commented that "there's nothing scarier than a 40-year-old shaking his booty to My Old School"...

It was actually the seattle dj guy who said that during his phone call with Becker


Name: F#maj9
air.net

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 11:46:04
Comments:
Breeezeeemeister: God bless your hands. thanks.

Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, NY
Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 11:21:31
Comments:
re: the wonderful article - but, "jazz guitarist Keith Jarrett"? Huh? oh, those Canadians!

ygk


Name: Breezemaster
breezmster@aol.com
NY
Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 10:25:17
Comments:
Happy holidays to all. I came across this article in the Toronto Globe and Mail. Thought some of you would be interested. I've cut it down a bit:

Steely Dan, doing it again: Can an unreconstructed Seventies rock band flourish in today's music environment? Walter Becker and Donald Fagen are set to find out

By SIMON HOUPT

Walter Becker hangs up the phone, rubs his left ear and pries himself out of a cramped room in a tiny, airless office. He turns to a chirpy public-relations executive and, grasping for a prison metaphor, pleads: "Can we go outside in the yard and exercise awhile?" He and Donald Fagen have been on the phone most of the morning with foreign press, trying to navigate the shoals of the interviewers' perilous language skills. They really need a rest, but they perk up when presented with a Canadian journalist. "Ah, English!" sighs a relieved Becker.

Not that he should complain. It isn't every band that can emerge from the studio with its first new album in 20 years and be greeted by an international chorus of interview demands. But Steely Dan has never been just another band.

When last we heard from them, Donald Fagen and Walter Becker were touring Canada and the United States in the summer of 1996 on a circuit that took them to Vancouver and, for the first time since the group formed in 1972 Toronto. In concert, they played a couple of new cuts from what they enticingly called a "forthcoming" album. The Pocket Oxford Dictionary offers limited assistance in helping us understand the Steely Dan way of doing things: Forthcoming: (adverb) . . . approaching, coming or available soon. Hmm. But after spending an extraordinary 21 months in the studio, Becker and Fagen will finally bring their new album, Two Against Nature, into stores at the end of February.

Ironically, it was the desire to tour that sent them back into the studio. Before breaking up in the early eighties, Steely Dan rarely played live concerts. Renowned aural perfectionists, the band was often dismayed by the quality of sound systems available to them on the road, so they stayed in the studio and turned out seven albums instead, beginning with Can't Buy a Thrill (1972), and including the platinum-selling Aja (1977) and Gaucho (1980). When the two founders reunited in 1993 for a brief tour, under far better financial and technical conditions than they had experienced in the seventies, they were thrilled with the results. Two more summer tours pursuaded them that if they were going to continue playing live, they owed it to their audiences to come up with some new stuff. Thus Two Against Nature and, next summer, another tour.

But the recorded music scene circa 2000 is vastly different from the one Steely Dan left in 1980 with Gaucho. If that album was released in today's market, would Hey Nineteen, which reached No. 10 on the Billboard charts, even register? The band has always had a cooler than cool sound unlike anything else getting airplay. (Reviewing Gaucho, Billboard said: "If Steely Dan gets any more laid-back, the group may cease to function altogether.") Long-time fans will be pleased to hear that the new disc features a sound awfully close to late-seventies Steely Dan , but music-industry execs would be right to be nervous about its chances of airplay in today's La Vida Loca radio environment.

"It's certainly not a radical break with what we've done in the past," acknowledges Becker, sinking into the generous leather folds of a couch next to Fagen. And the disc's commercial prospects? "We have no idea what to make of any of this," Becker laughs. "We've always sort of done this, from the very beginning, on just some sort of idiotic faith that people would like what we were doing and enough people would be amused by it."
Fagen picks up the thread. "We pretty much write for ourselves. We don't have any demographic idea in mind."

"We don't really fit into any of the slots that we know about," continues Becker. "But we never have, so we're just hoping that whatever carried us through before, will again."

Becker is the voluble one who retails most of the stories, while Fagen chimes in every few minutes with half of an anecdote or a wry, mumbled turn of phrase. Together, they are like a seasoned vaudeville improv team.

The pair's present relationship with pop music isn't limited to irony, though. Riffs from Steely Dan tracks often turn up in rap tunes, including the 1998 hit by Lord Tariq and Peter Gunz, Deja Vu (Uptown Baby), which was based on Black Cow from Aja. That particular case was unfortunate, though, as the rappers had failed to ask for permission for the sample, and it was already licensed to Puff Daddy for a number he was working on. (The possibly apocryphal story has it that when Puff Daddy heard Deja Vu on the radio, he screamed, "Hey! Somebody stole my track!"

The mess was resolved when Becker and Fagen were granted the writing credit on the song and wound up with an award for Rap Song of the Year. Tariq groused to Rolling Stone that the incident showed "a lack of respect for hip-hop." Fagen tartly responds: "I'd say it's a lack of respect for piracy." (Those with long memories will recall the Dans were themselves once accused of piracy by jazz guitarist Keith Jarrett, who was less than thrilled when the title cut on Gaucho was shown to closely echo his song Long as you know you're living Yours. Though the duo doesn't see the parallels with the Lord Tariq situation, Jarrett ended up with a writing credit on the Steely Dan album after a 1980 interview with Musician magazine in which Fagen said: "Hell, we steal. We're the robber barons of rock 'n' roll." He said it jokingly. Jarrett wasn't amused.)

The fact that Steely Dan 's music is popular among rappers suggests the band's new disc may be welcomed by today's radio audience and could cultivate a new generation of fans. Good thing, too, since Becker recently commented that "there's nothing scarier than a 40-year-old shaking his booty to My Old School [from 1973's Countdown to Ecstasy album]." Nevertheless, the two insist a performer's age shouldn't deter audiences from enjoying music.

"When I was first going to see live music, I was a kid going to see 50-year-old guys, jazz musicians," says Becker. He mentions Thelonius Monk. "His music was utterly startling and fresh and energetic. It's an artifact of the preconceived notion of rock 'n' roll that people need to be young. I suppose it's true that there's something silly about people pretending to be younger than they are, or playing music that's very juvenile, once they get to a certain age, but we don't do that."

Fagen continues: "If the band's output is mostly adolescent themes, or dating stuff or whatever, I'd say it can be kind of silly. But I think we've always dealt with reality on a somewhat more authentic level. And it's no sillier than, you know, corporate raiding. It's no sillier than investment banking, on a certain level. Maybe it's less silly than investment banking."

Becker: "Well, obviously we think so. That's why we ended up doing this in the first place. We wanted to get into the least embarrassing line of work we could find. That was it. It still is."

Fagen: "Not that it's not embarrassing."

Becker: "Well, yeah, it's plenty embarrassing."

The themes they explore are appropriate to their years. One cut on the new disc, What a Shame About Me, is a cynical take on the failed potential of a New York writer, while the closing number, West of Hollywood, is an equally dark glimpse at an emotionally frozen man. Not all the songs are as easily unlocked. Those who revel in the abstruse nature of the band's songs will find much in Two Against Nature to keep them happy and occupied.

Some themes carry over from previous discs. The new album contains a few songs with drug references, though nowhere near the frenzy of Gaucho. The two men note that their own recreational drug use is behind them. Fagen was never much of a user, but Becker's drug-taking was well documented.


Name: In the braintrust
of the Telco Industry

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 09:39:49
Comments:
Big Fan: its called "follow the sun", and if you don't like what you see ahead of time....RUN!

Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 08:15:30
Comments:
YGK: I like the Greenwich idea - that would work out great for me. Maybe we could all rent a bus and take an afternoon trip to the casinos - listening to SD tunes all of the way. Come on Kinky what do you say?

Should I be flattered?

Has someone already mentioned that a new edition of Metal Leg is supposed to come out soon?
http://members.tripod.com/metaleg/news.html

I'll be without computer access from Dec 26 through the 30th - not that anyone cares, I 'll get back online just in time to see if the whole thing crashes - so have a Happy Holiday everyone. It will be interesting on the 31st to see what transpires in Asia and Europe as the new year hits ahead of us.


Name: Zeke
one day,

Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 08:00:43
Comments:
Long time no post. High to Ole, Clas, Sam, Leeza, found some cool photo's from Dan/Jazz Fess' in Nawlin'z.

Matt: OUCH!!! I really dig the way Don sings, "he wears a heeearing aid". And those snippets of percussion, awesome.

Don't feel to much like scrolling down, glad to see stuff about the new one. I hope the band makes a trip down South, if there is a tour.

Thx Don for Maxine. What a cool tune. If there ever was a holiday tune from the Dan, I think this is it.


Name: matt
matthew.scuffham@dowjones.com
Location: London, U.K.
Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 00:33:37
Comments:
Never posted before but couldn't resist.

Least favourite list.

Only A Fool Would Say That
Your Gold Teeth
With A Gun
Everyone's Gone To The Movies
Fez
Josie
My Rival
Goodbye Look
Tomorrow's Girls
Girlfriend

 


Name: David in the Florida Room
dmoore113@aol.com

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 21:06:55
Comments:
To all My GB Friends:
Here's hoping you all have a safe and wonderful Holiday season, and that 2000 brings happiness and better pay and bar tabs and and free hotel rooms and cheaper Pentiums and good sounding house systems and less Karaoke singers and better snow tires and 3-set gigs for everyone!!!

David


Name: TheStranger
Luca Brazzi sleeps with the fishes

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 20:11:40
Comments:
YGK,
All right, the West Coast family approves of NY as a suitable meeting place for EastCoasters. WAnd w look forward to the day when the Barzinis, the Corleones and all the other families can get together for a sitdown. But no Tataglias. Tataglia's a pimp. He could never beat Sonny in a fight.

Name: Q
@@@@@

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 19:03:28
Comments:
I would be remiss if I didn't mention NYDaddy and Everyone's Gone To the Movies.................awesome.........

I think the live '96 tour version of "Movies" was absolutely
phenominal ! DF on vocals was killer.the band was hotzo, and the groove and funk was totally there..........wow,that was good stuff.

Just think of the next tour.


Name: Q
FLAROOM

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 18:58:27
Comments:
A shoot from the hip "Top Twenty"
1)Aja

2) Gold Teeth I

3)Gold Teeth II

4)Josie

5)Peg

6)Do It Again

7)Reelin

8)My Rival

9)3rd World Man

10)Time Out of Mind

11)Green Earrings

12)Don't Take Me Alive

13)Night By Night

14)Gaucho

15)Only A Fool

16)Pretzel Logic

17)Show Biz Kids

18)I Got The News

19)Razor Boy

20)why bother...........

you tell me........


Q


Name: Yo
NYdraggggggggggggggggggggggggg

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 18:39:12
Comments:
yo

yo mus'folla datguy Bigfan, man......................

Yo da Bigfan havhi shit togetha,yah!!..................

yo,man.............

yo.........


Name: KD
onhoops.com

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 18:29:00
Comments:
Back at home now, for now.

Whoever's dropping the 'Cousin Dupree' lyrics-stop. We don't want our first time to suck...

least favorite album tracks:

1. Change of the Guard
2. Show Biz Kids
3. Through With Buzz
4. Everyone's Gone to the Movies
5. Fez
6. Peg
7. My Rival
8. Ruby Baby (or, if we exclude covers, I.G.Y.)
9. Trans Island Skyway
10. This Moody Bastard

What a great album!

JK: lol

In a week I will be in the actual Muswellbrook, of 'Black Friday' fame. Hopefully I'll have a digital camera to record all the fun.

I've been away from my email, have they sent out a new newsletter?

The Dad doesn't think so much of the "dirge-y" 'Jack of Speed,', but loves 'Wetside.'

And the 12year old Korn-lovin bro loves 'Second Arrangement': "Kelly, they don't write songs like this these days! It's awesome!"


Name: All I could say was Ouch.
Honey how you have grown. Like a rose.

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 18:13:22
Comments:
We used to play when we were three. How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree? How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?

Name: SoulMonkey168
stompin down the avenue

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 17:45:40
Comments:
I would just like to wish everyone a merry Christmas and a safe New Year. That even goes for Q. No hard feelings bud.I was going to get both you and that kinky so-and-so a golden SoulRam for a gift but decided to wait and see what the new year brought before I was so generous. Lord knows you deserve it. I think I'll just let sleeping dogs lie and ignore the silly commentary from now on. It's time too move on.

Top Ten suprising tracks when first heard:
(one from each album)

1. Only a Fool Would Say That
2. Razor Boy
3. Monkey In Your Soul (hence my name)
4. Everyone's Gone to the Movies
5. Sign In Stranger
6. Home At Last
7. Glamour Profession
8. The Goodbye Look
9. On The Dunes
10. Surf and or Die
11. Mister Sam--- best non album song.

Christmas wish list: YGK: a place for the Dan party
Malibu: a cool breeze, a cool bud, and a
thank you---job well done
MizDucky:a Happy belated B-Day in my best
New Yawk drawl.


P.S. STRANGER: The drunk guy is named Jerome, and he rules.

MERRY CHRISTMAS, or whatever you celebrate!!!



Name: DrMu
*

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 17:27:14
Comments:
Edd: It's still there

Name: DrMu
Roamin' holiday

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 17:24:40
Comments:
After an afternoon spasm of last minute shopping with spouse and adorable semi-destructive imps posing as our offspring, and downing a chicken fajita followed by a nightcap of triple chocolate ice cream...I stumbled across the threshold on a methyl xanthine buzz, and ripped open my X-mas presents early the re- res of Aja and Scam. The drag race between the Mobile Fidelity gold foil turbo vs. the '99 alum. fuel injected Le Mans. crystalline cymbals, delineated bass, more up-front vocals belonged to...yes, the new '99 edition!! Carlton on Scam was now a Texas Chain Saw, although I have to admit that I expected a little more improved channel separation...but nonetheless very satisfying, especially on a day where I hear no airplay of Cousin Dupree but it's not over yet - should I call in my first request in 25 years? ...probably a hoax anyway. Damn, now I have to rewrap these babies and feign surprise in 4 days.

Happy Holidays!...off to decipher my notes for the Christmas eve lasagna


Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, NY
Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 15:21:57
Comments:
".............listening to AJA now, on vinyl.................."

Deacon Blues seems to fit my life so much right now........somehow I can see the lights of the city moving quickly past in a blur during this song......the 'soul center' of the album....

Anyway, I might as well just throw this out.....
but it seems to me that a NYC Dan-Fest 'round the release date is the best solution for a Northeast Fest....
the most common suggestions have been for the first weekend in March, which, I believe, not looking at my calendar, would be the March 3-5 weekend....

As I didn't read the 'how to set up a Dan-fest' manual, I don't know what to do, however, I'm sure I could interface with Pete Fogel at LBB for a Dan-friendly eve, and/or some other places not in Mid-town for an overall Dan-friendly weekend.
Hotels could be suggested, places to go (jazz downtown, maybe even Brooklyn), places NOT to go (Hard Rock, Hooligans on 42nd Street, ANYTHING on 42nd street) stuff like that....
(its funny how people used to tell you not to go the 42nd street because of all the crime and sleaze, and now I'll tell you not to go to 42nd street for all the cleanliness, UNREALITY of the disnification and all the plasticity - nothing unique anymore)

so how 'bout it?

or, for the really daring, you could all crash at Kinky's Manse up in Greenwich, CT?

I'm living confortably in Manhattan, but actually don't know my living situation that 'far ahead' right now, but I do know that I will definitely be involved in this somehow......hopefully, I'll still be in the same hood and may be able to accomodate a truly needy Danite, depending.....

nonetheless, what say you for a Dan-fest in the lights of Manhattan? where the lights never dim, and our boys still roam?

ygk

Oh, yeah, Happy Solstice!!


Name: Hutch
whileyourunaroooooouuuund

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 15:00:07
Comments:
Franky - I checked out The Royal Scam tribute band's site. That little snippet of Black Cow is pretty impressive! The girls' back-up vocals are right on the button. Very nice.
You should check out:
www.steelydamned.com and www.stealindan.com

Name: Lars
-

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 14:56:32
Comments:
Clas- you got yourself a very nice saxplayer on your contribution. I´ve heard a cd by him. Something with 'good life'. Very good!

Name: ruby baby
combing every single Starbucks till I find Minah

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 13:30:21
Comments:
Thanks for not flaming me for that Santa Baby thing! I was afraid to look. Y'all are so inspiring!!

Q: you're such a great sport! I like you.

altamira: thanx! I never heard Eartha Kit. But I love her name. I must check her out sometime.

MCruiser: My own stray cat (well, she's been with us for a year now) has brought home another stray. She actually took her to the food bowls. This cat was so shabby I've named her Scruffy. I realize now that she's a Maine Coone. Interesting paws. Anyway, she is pregnant. I don't know what I'm going to with all these felines! I have 2 big canines...

JW: You da bomb!

Oleander: If you get me slightly tipsy and start singing with me, then I'm likely to belt it out for ya. It's those first few notes that are the hurdles.

rb


Name: JWMalibu
*

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 11:55:42
Comments:
Following in the footsteps of Elvis, the GB Compilation has left the building! The music, artwork and credits are now in the hands of Armadillo Digital (www.armadillo.digital.com)...

I'm fairly certain that I got all credits correct, but, in the off-chance that I got something wrong, just shoot me! Disregard what's on the site for the next day or so; I made the changes on the original Word document and have not uploaded those changes onto my site just yet. I'll do that later this week.

With armadillos fresh on my mind, I went over to my CD library last night and revisited "Tarkus", the second Emerson, Lake & Palmer album ~ released in 1971...which featured a tank-like armadillo on its cover! That album had the ultra-gnarly dirty Hammond organ sounds on it; a "goosebump" moment almost 30 years later is the transition from the ultra-energetic opening piece "Eruption" to the smokey smoothness of "Stones of Years"...the lyrics are slightly hokey, but the music kicks major ass! Well worth another listen...



Name: melanie's
fan

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 11:42:31
Comments:
hell i'd ciss cuz dup if i could get a copy of the new one.

melfan


Name: jk
jk

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 11:38:36
Comments:
So they want to know what they should sell at their merchandise area on the official site. this is what i'd tell 'em

1. Nicely printed parchment booklet with the age of consent for each state and/or commonwealth (and country) with applicable laws and statutes.

2. fezzes *

3. Steely Dan Cherry wine

4. chalupas

5. Steely Dans with likenesses of walter and donald etched on them for the discerning madames and mamselles.

6. A live CD of cover tunes from a gig in a small club in nyc or western mass. (ie. Drowning in the sea of love, mary mary, I got news for you, rapunsel )

7. tix to that gig

8. lyric sheets to vocals that are buried in the mix on some songs

9. Entire catalog of jay and the americans cds

9. primo seats for the upcoming tour.

10. VHS of D&W's guest starring roles on Baywatch - hell the beach boys did it and they aren't as sand and surf savvy as D&W

11. Very tiny and thin SD halter tops.

jk

*(would you not love to look out at the audience at your concert and see everyone wearing one?!) or spangled leather ponchoes


Name: We used to play when we were three,
How about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 11:37:13
Comments:
Smokin!

Name: DrMu
the vision thing

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 10:59:20
Comments:
lica: I'd seen rumors about those players...looks like they are true. I'm excited about Hugh McCracken, Dean Parks, Joe Sample, etc. No mention of horn players though. It also confirms the fact that the album is self-produced (i.e., Donald Fagen and Walter Becker). Notice that Donald's name is first...comments?

Name: franky
email@shmemail.com
NJ
Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 10:48:24
Comments:
Hello to all of the Dan Fan's...I am always reading these interesting posts on the site but hardly ever send anything in. Guess I'm a little post-shy.--- To BC and any other fans from the NJ/NY area, has anyone gone to see the Royal Scam (the Steely Dan Tribute band)? They're the closest thing to the real thing in the area. They played on Friday night in Lyndhurst, NJ..check out their site for upcoming shows and some other interesting stuff... www.royalscam.com. It's great to be around so many other fans.
--Franky

Name: F#maj9
sleigh bells jangle- Brian Wilson?

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 10:12:39
Comments:
Stranger: ditto for Antoine. I'd laugh if he weren't drunk [or kept on for amusement from same]. It makes me squirmy- also makes me wonder about our less-than-perfect heros [the humanity]. Being young isn't a good excuse. Can't help it. Susan, my son is your age! [and he "borrowed" my SD Cds- almost a year ago...]

JWM: posting credit correction, assuming time is running out and you've done so much as it is. Instrumental segment you included called "Cool Shirt/Cool Guitar" [part of a larger work].

Had sent a 3-part "musical post":
F#major9 Unplugged [20secs acoustic KidC guitar, my daughter interupts shouting "Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad..." for bogus [!] call from DF; ho ho. Theme from "The Little Rascals" [publicdomain]]
F#major9 Unglued [cool shirt...]
copyright: what's to steal?
credit: confiscated. will you take a check?

hopefully, that was good for a giggle.

*Much thanks* added to all previously expressed. Marvelous arts- glad you enjoyed the project. eager to warmly embrace labors of love.

Re: TAN- thanks for the post regarding guest artists. Pulse quickens at mention of Dean Parks. Cannot tire of the way he blows sax lines on his guit-fiddle... makes me forget to breathe.

Oh, and Stranger- I love E.St.L! especially how they each took home a part to learn. Have you heard the original? it just might convert ya. However, the changes to Deacon Blue make me nauseous.
not that it's a bad thing...

Edd: friendly amendment for the records- Pet Sounds/Sgt Pepper a continuum of intercontinental 60s consciousness emerg/convergence
Well, for that matter I should include the four freshmen and Phil Spector... but, when you said SP I synapsed: what about those sleigh bells???

a musical pseudomillenium to all [agreement with DrMu and Arthur C Clarke]
F#
[Santa- about that digital 8 track? First, world peace. then, if it's no trouble...]


Name: aja
going east for the winter

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 09:05:35
Comments:
Does anyone know any good places to go for music in Philadelphia? I'm going to be there in January for a med school interview (!) and I'd really be interested in knowing where some good jazz clubs are-San Diego is notoriously bad for jazz. Thought about scheduling the interview to coincide with Danfest East, but gotta get my foot in the door as soon as possible (oleander-aren't you glad those days are over?!)


aja


Name: Hutch
ohwell.

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 08:19:44
Comments:
No mention whatsoever on KMTT Seattle this morning about an SD single.
My, how the rumors fly!

Name: TheStranger
speaking of a half-empty glass....

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 20:40:09
Comments:
Absolute Bottom of the Dan Barrel ---
East St. Louis Toodloo.

2nd from the bottom:
The drunken fool who takes forever to introduce them on that strange, live compilation. You know the one I mean.


Name: lica
rose

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 20:04:39
Comments:
Steely Dan - Two Against Nature [2/29]

Title Out of Stock

Shopping @ MuZicDepot.com is safe & secure.

Producer: Donald Fagen; Walter Becker Label: Giant

Originally Released: 2000 # of Discs: 1

Mono/Stereo: Stereo Studio/Live: Studio

1. Gas Lightning Abbie

2. What A Shame About Me

3. Two Against Nature

4. Janie Runaway

5. Almost Gothic

6. Jack Of Speed

7. Cousin Dupree

8. Negative Girl

9. West Of Hollywood

Performers include: Hugh McCracken (guitar); Joe Sample (keyboards); Ricky Lawson, Sonny Emory, Michael White, Vinnie Colaiuta (drums); Tom Barney, Paul Jackson, Jr., Dean Parks, John Beasley.

------------------------------------------------------------------------


Name: oleander
that fearsome explication

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 19:53:48
Comments:
MC--Congrats, but I'm BUMMED that you were in Asheville and I didn't get to meet you! Next time PLEASE look me up let me take you & your P-squeeze out for whatever. Same goes for anyone who wanders through.

Mock, the way--A question I also had. Thanx for the ? and the explication.

Stranger--I know, I know. But it's a very Steely quality to be able to find unexpected wealth in seemingly unlikely places. Ergo, ACC DanFest! How about Nassau for the tour?

Hutch & fezo--speaking of which, e me if you want any planning help from a distance--whatever I can do. oleander1@earthlink.net

YGK--wazzup with NYC Fest?

fezo--I'm in and breathing a sigh of relief that I don't have to actually go to a basketball game. TV I can handle. Should I bring a dram of Dr. Wu's Tasteless Liver Tonic for halftime?

RS--I just love how you always can find the bright side of the dark side.

johnboy--well put! Of course gender symbolism should be equal opportunity! I just get tired of all these things being labelled phallic symbols when they can be other things. I submit that a sports car could be a very female symbol: it's a vessel, after all, that you get into, sit in a semi-fetal position in your seat, are closely surrounded by creature comforts [listening to loud music is like hearing the maternal heartbeat], and you are always driving toward the new--ie birth. It's a very high-performance womb.

tom--OK. I remember now. I thought it was 1) you, 2) me, 3) the chimp, and 456) the Trinity. Then as an afterthought I was trying to picture them all as chimps. Couldn't do it. Fun anyway.

Grrrlfred--Ooh. But I don't know what I'm more jealous of missing, TNO or your tapenade. Mmmmm....

Kinky hon--Actually, in retrospect, I thought he was talking about the Aja DVD. Maybe not, but I really DON'T give a rat's ass about who's got it or not. I'll hear it if I live that long, and that's enough.

Rubay--whoa, girl! That was fabulous! I wanna see you belt it out in the slinky dress and everything! Can you have it worked up by DanFest?

JW--Awesome. Can't wait.


Name: How about a kiss for your
Cousin Dupree?

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 19:24:48
Comments:
We used to play when we were three...

Name: DrMu
the dungeon on the ranch had a Chernobyl blast

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 18:03:51
Comments:
*unexpected thing of beauty* - nice list

Fire in the Hole
Razor Boy
Rikki
Your Gold Teeth II
Caves of Altamira
Aja
Babylon Sisters
New Frontier
Florida Room
Book of Liars


Name: aja
can't work anymore

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 17:23:06
Comments:
Unexpected* thing of beauty album:

Turn That Heartbeat Over Again
Boston Rag
Night By Night
Dr. Wu
The Caves of Altamira
Black Cow
Time Out of Mind

*unexpected in the sense that I was expecting certain songs to be great when I bought the album ("King of the World", "Aja", etc., hence they are omitted) but these were the ones that took me by surprise when I heard them for the first time.

Rixhex6-yes, it is funny when things like that happen-and satisfying when you get to find out about it!


aja


Name: DrMu
6 degrees of inspiration

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 16:04:27
Comments:

I sez

hypothetical

...hangin' on 'til the pseudomillenium


Name: DrMu
6 degrees of inspiration

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 16:02:28
Comments:
wandered: I think you made my point.

I sex - "Lesse, pick the weakest from each album:"

...meaning that I took my least favorite recording from each album. Does not mean that ANY of the are less than the best of others.

"Royal Scam" and maybe "Everything You Did" appeal to me less than say Kid Charlemagne, Don't Take Me Alive etc. Everything is too damn funny to put in my hypotheical album...tells us a lot about the album Royal Scam n'est ce pas?


Name: wandered in
without a dime

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 15:50:11
Comments:
Dr.Mu - Royal Scam as a weak cut ? Are you with us at all?

Name: TheStranger
Ripley's Believe It Or Squat

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 14:50:11
Comments:
Assuming St. Dan will do a show in Vegas around the same time we want to be there is a lot of assuming. But it's possible. I mean, hey, Dan Quayle got elected vice president, right?

Name: DrMu
42° and raining (at least it's not 103°!)

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 13:19:27
Comments:
That's Swedish. Lars or Clas? where are you now?

Lesse, pick the weakest from each album:

Change of the Guard
Show Biz Kidz
Charlie Freak
Everyone's Gone to the Movies
Royal Scam
Peg
My Rival
Ruby Baby
Springtime
My Waterloo

Pretty darned fine album

 


Name: JWMalibu
...on the home stretch

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 12:49:03
Comments:
OK, I've got the artist credits assembled, and have posted them on the GB Compilation page. ARTISTS: please proof your credits and let me know if you want to include/exclude additional information and/or correct any typos on my part.

Those GB folks for whom I don't have a physical address (check the list on the site), please send it to me via jwmalibu@msn.com.

Back to playin' hooky (hey, Christmas falls on a Saturday - now that's some justification!) and getting my zip drive to work on my new PC in order to get those massive art files over to Armadillo Digital. Did a final mix on my piece yesterday; I'm glad I got to listen to everyone else's first ~ it pushed me even harder to dot every 'i'!

We should do this once a year!

Happy Holidaze,

JDubs


Name: aja
It's 78 degrees right now

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 12:36:18
Comments:
Herm-you won't miss that snow, and although my preferences for So Cal run decidedly south of LA, you'll love it out here. Especially if you could see what it's like today! Welcome to the Southland. And since you'll be in the vicinity, we have this great party planned for Vegas sometime this spring...

St. Al has thrown out a suggestion to plan Vegas Danfest around a tour. This could be great, assuming a. they actually play in Vegas, and b. we could actually get seats (for less than $500 each). What does everyone think about this?


aja


Name: Bodacious Cowgirl
a rainy Monday in NJ

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 12:34:39
Comments:
I'm giving my Danfest vote to NYC, as I will be there the first weekend in March for an unrelated matter.

Have been cleaning house all afternoon to 'The Last Waltz', I hadn't listened to it in a long time, and forgot how much I enjoyed it. It made me almost not mind doing the bathroom!

BC


Name: Sociable Hermit
In the cave

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 12:22:47
Comments:

Hi everyone,

It's sort of been a while since I last posted, so, even though I have nothing to say in the way of Steely Dan, I still felt compelled to drop in and say, "Hi".

Winter has finally made it's appearence, and it looks like it's here to stay. I'm in the process of trying to sell my place and move to L.A.; I've had my fingers crossed daily that I'd be able to move before I had to deal with cold and snow again, but alas, that was not to be my fate this time. I do want to move rather soon, though, so perhaps I should uncross my fingers, (since that wasn't very effective before), and try something else.

I purchased a new computer over the weekend ~ a Hewlett Packard Pavilion. It will still be months before I've fully grasped all of it's capabilities, but so far I can say that it is a major step up from my stupid old Acer Aspire. The sound and picture quality is amazing.

JWMalibu, I need your e-mail address so I can send you mine, which probably won't be for a couple of days anyway. When I bought the computer at Best Buy, they had this promotion where if you signed up with MSN for three years, they'd deduct $400 from the purchase price. I already was an MSN member, but for $400... Anyway, I had to pick a name while in line with ten angry customers behind me, on the last Sunday before Christmas, while the cashier enrolled me into a new MSN account. None of the names I wanted originally would take, so I just chose something to get out of the line. I know need to change it, and that might take a few days. I'm rather pissed, because they told me that I cannot usse my old name, or transfer any mail from previous account to the new one. Ahh, the trials and tribulations of life.

In case I don't get the chance to post again before next weekend, I hope everyone has a tremendous holiday, Christmas, Hannukah, Kwaanza, Ramadan, whatever you celebrate! Have fun, and stay happy and healthy.

Later,

Herm


Name: TheStranger
TooBusy

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 10:32:47
Comments:
Clas,
Got the email. Where's this farm? I need a rest too.

Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 10:05:44
Comments:
Just some reading to pass the time until 2AN arrives in the mall/mail:

http://www.strato.net/~wdrr2/music.html

http://www.perigord.com/westcoast/NEWS/news.html
Gas Lightening Abbie????? lol

http://www.sr.se/p4/program/mbol/mvvp.htm
what language - you got me

http://www.cibm107.com/cjfp/inforock.html
French Canadian

http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/musik/nf/0,1518,46954,00.html
German

OK Q I understand



Name: aja
voting for the wingding

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 10:00:29
Comments:
Count me in on Vegas, whenever we decide to do it!

Hutch-if it's raining in Virginia, those are my tears after reading about that last, extraordinary Stevie Ray show you saw!


aja


Name: Q
FLAROOM

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 09:46:41
Comments:
Dennis Miller is The Man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Best irreverent comedy anywhere........

Q.........


Name: Roy.Scam
eartha-3.madonna-0

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 09:13:12
Comments:
Ruby: Nice work. Perhaps an annual holiday update will be in order.

Dr. Mu Susan (satan-satan-nnn-satan-satannnnnn) : Happy belated birthday.

Stranger: Anticipating possible disappointment with TvN , I did a little mental exercise. I made a list of what I considered the ten weakest cuts on all the SD, Fagen and Becker releases. {I assume they wouldn't foist a "Soul Ram" or "Ida Lee" on the paying public.)-- Then I imagined buying a CD and listening to those ten songs; and, by God, it was a pretty damn good collection. I will fear no disappointment as I walk through the valley of the Dan.


"Bill Gates is now the world's wealthiest man. But is he happy? ..... He is? ........SHIT!."
Dennis Miller


RS


Name: It's a Shame About Us
*

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 08:19:14
Comments:
Update on Bill Gates' personal wealth:

Mon Dec 20 11:03:28 EST 1999
Microsoft Stock Price: $113.25
Bill Gates's Wealth: $127.891000 billion
U.S. Population: 274,163,688
Your Personal Contribution: $466.477

"If you want to know what God thinks about money, just look at the people He gives it to."
-- Old Irish Saying


Name: The Artist formerly known as "Q"
FLAROOM

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 08:04:38
Comments:
I'm sorry Bigfan , you'll have to rely on Kinky for that since he is currently, but for only a short time) a "superior human being"( according to himself and S&S) and therefore only he can derive such topsecret information. I'm sure he will dutifully plumb the depths of someone's asshole or use his engineering friends to steal more product from Donald and Walt in the name of " I have it first!".

I have much more to say on the recent past events, but will do so later as my penis is out being measured for new clothes(it always swells during the holidays!).

I decided this place is just too much fun to leave behind.

Q


Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 06:40:08
Comments:
That was camp not amp.

PS:
Cost of 2AN $17.98 list, $12.58 from Amazon.com. CDNOW.com is not listing it yet. Q maybe some calls to Japan to see if there is in fact a Japanese release with an extra track. I can't belive, based on Reprise's and Giant's past history that there won't be some extra stuff floating around out there eventually.


Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 05:53:54
Comments:
You can pre order Two Against Nature on www.Amazon.com if you care to do so - no word on a single.

I haven't forgotten about the video info, I just haven't had time to look up the info.

Happy Holiday's to all!!!!!

May no terrorists amp on your doorstep on New Year's Day.

YGK, please post your email address again.


Name: Lars
out of town

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 05:37:14
Comments:
sure I´ve found out that. On this board you must be able to discuss important issues like cookies and american gaytowns. My vote goes for Södertälje.

Name: Stay Home
little Nederlander

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 05:17:14
Comments:
Lars, haven't you figured out that this community doesn't like out of towners ?

Name: Lars
-

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:25:17
Comments:
Kinky - nice work - but haven´t you learned by now that this community cares very little about clear arguments?

Name: Lars
i bokhandeln

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:03:48
Comments:
Hey Clas; More about cookies.The classic Ballerina was marketed for the first time in 1965 by Kungälv. Later (1967) they introduced the Singoalla. Great information from the fantastic book "Älskade pryl! - reklam- och prylhistoria för rekordårens barn". A must for those who can reed swedish.

I don´t eat cookies!


Name: Clas
leaving town

Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 at 01:36:56
Comments:
Stranger - did you get my email? Strang(er) things happened.

Damn JW, must email you again.

Wait.

C


Name: Miz Ducky
magic eight-ball not responding right now

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 23:17:07
Comments:
DrMu: Alas, the only "in" I have with KMTT is the same as any other local and/or internet listener--via their phone lines, website, and e-mail. Nobody on the air has dropped any further hints about Dan-stuff since my last report, so I can't help there. However, if our esteemed Mysterious Informant :-) below is correct, I am betting that John Fisher, KMTT's resident Danfan, would receive the honor of spinning the single first. He and Mike West have the weekday on-air slot from 5am to 9am Pacific Time--which is, what?, 7am to 10am in Texas? Still a long time to spend glued to the computer for the RealAudio broadcast, but at least that narrows things down from the full 24!

I'll leave it to StAl to chime in if he has anything to chime in with. Dude?

Stranger: I *think* I'm still up for Lav Vegas too ... but I was also getting mightily tempted by the idea of going to New York for the Big Release. But is there still a NYC release thang? And if I somehow scam my way into going to New York for this PBS thang ... oh hell. I dunno. Maybe I'll go to Luxembourg instead. My brain's in a total post-birthday-party state of maceration, and people are expecting me to know where I'm going? I mean, how can I be two places at once when I'm not anywhere at all ... ?

Erm. Excuse me.

D'oh, I guess I come back to "I dunno." How many other people are still into the Vegas thang? It's got to have a certain critical mass to make it sing, I should think.

/Miz Ducky
a marvelous maelstrom of indeterminate indecision


Name: TheStranger
After reconsideration

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 22:38:06
Comments:
Screw the jinx. We'll assume the album is terrific. I'm up for Vegas. Mandalay Bay is nice but expensive. Treasure Island is clean and centrally located. It has a tram every five minutes to the Mirage, which is nicer but hugely expensive and has one of the last of the old-time Vegas lounges -- that means good live music. No one-man bands connected to drum-machine computers.

Richmond? What the hell's in Richmond? Don't you EastCoasters have any imagination? Either meet us in Vegas or put something together in Nassau.


Name: TheStranger
Not everything comes up roses

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 22:19:49
Comments:
Ruby Baby,
I like the Vegas idea. But planning to celebrate a CD before it's out is a good way to throw a jinx. We've got to consider the possibility that that CD won't meet our expectations. If it were that easy for Steely Dan to give us what we want, we'd have had this CD 19 years ago.

Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 21:47:33
Comments:
Ruby - That was brilliant! And I so love Eartha Kitt; I'm enjoying imagining her singing this new version of her song (forget Madonna, that lightweight!).

Name: DrMu
the other white meat

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 17:29:31
Comments:
JW: kudos, man

Hey St. Al and Miz Ducky: Any way of finding out *if* KMTT will have a copy and when Fisher and West will play Cousin Dupree on Tuesday? Since the single is not a Garth Brooks release, I don't have a chance of hearing it Tuesday in central Texas...unless I click the magic blue button of this site:

http://www.kmtt.com/frames/highf.html


Name: JWMalibu
www.boards.com

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 17:05:44
Comments:
Thanks for all the positive feedback re: the artwork for the GB Compilation...I'm glad you guys like it!

Name: the way it goes
.

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 16:38:38
Comments:
He Mock -

Its my understanding that cds are released in japan about a day earlier than in the US -- but they are way more expensive (in keeping with the pricing over there). Japanese buyers will normally wait the extra day just to get the US-released (and US priced) cd....but that's less common if you put a bonus track on the Japan release. So that's why bonus tracks often show up on Japanese versions of cds


Name: Mock Turtle


Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 16:15:58
Comments:
Does anyone have any idea why the Japanese version of 11TOW would contain "Medical Science," but not the US version? Why the hell would this have been done? Did WB's parents play a role in the Japanese internment camps? Or maybe the track has some sort of subliminal messages in it to help reduce our trade deficit. Whatever the reason, it's clear the Orient occupies a special place in the heart of Steely Dan.

Name: Q
you know....................

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 14:23:30
Comments:
I had to chime in to say "well done" to ruby baby for a for a great non partisan Christmas carol....


Happy Holidays and New Year to all on the GB

See ya...........................


Q


Name: Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
@The Anti-Christ.God

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 14:12:08
Comments:
What sets "us" apart is not that we recognize no God, either in history or in nature or behind nature -- but that we find that which has been reverenced as God not 'godlike' but pitiable, absurd, harmful, not merely an error but a CRIME AGAINST LIFE... We deny God as God... If this God of the Christians were PROVED to us to exist, we should know even less how to believe in him. In a formula: Deus, qualem Paulus creavit, dei negatio. [God, as Paul created him, is a denial of God.]

Name: Radio stations
get Cousin Dupree on Tuesday.

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 13:48:34
Comments:
Incest is best. LOL! Nice to see the boys are still a couple of sickos!

Name: ruby baby
season's greeting to all

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 12:46:24
Comments:
Stranger: Hey, there's talk of a couple of Danfests to celebrate 2AN - one in Richmond for those on the Right side and one in Vegas for us on the Left Coast. March or April. Even St.Al wants to go! Bright lights, gambling, show girls, decadence, and outrageous SD fans - I can't resist. (OK, I tolerate the show girls)

everyone: the parody bug bit me. It's been a few years since it did that. Just imagine Madonna singing this version of Santa Baby...


Santa Baby, slip the New One under the tree
with glee
We've waited 20 very long years
Santa Baby, we really gotta have it tonight!

Santa Baby, an outer space convertible,too
like Q
It's gotta be worth one hundred grand, Santa Baby
And if you can't, a penis will do.

Think of all the fun we've missed
Think of all the asses Kinky must have kissed
But now he's got the tunes we crave
"It's fan-*%&#-tastic!" we hear him rave.

ba doo pe doo

Santa Honey, we want a DVD or we'll not
be hot
How could we show our face around here?
Santa Baby, just toss it down our chimney tonight.

Santa Cutie, could yo arrange just one little thing-
a ring
We'd love to hear from Donald & Walt, Santa Baby,
We're hanging by the phone - waiting!

Come and trim our Banyan Tree
Let there be on every branch a signed cd
Fill our stockings with all the outtakes
A few good bootlegs would be really great!

Santa Baby, bring all the scurvy brothers some cheer
for all year
Leave laughter, joy and love in your wake, Santa Baby
And all the happiness they can take!

And don't be late, for goodness sake!


rb


Name: trey
darkstarfungus@hotmail.com
Location: san fransisco, ca us
Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 08:38:08
Comments:
hey all! can't wait for new tour! summer of 2000 right? was so bummed out about jerry, that i did,nt see their last tour. i did see skunk baxter at the house of blues, he was on stage for the legendary Les Paul;it was really good.what's up with the damn hall of fame? I just luagh at their selections, how can they snub the dan? i wonder all the time why they never get the credit they deserve! their so underated, misunderstood i think, anyway what do you think? smoke em if ya got em!

Name: jk
jk

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 06:35:13
Comments:
wetside would be great but not the live! Those lyrics are horendously bad!

jk


Name: Clas
@ Work

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 04:37:13
Comments:
Hutch - I've told it before, but in the green Steely-book the lyrics to Black Friday is saying "...I fly down to my swell Brooks". Crazy.

And I'm sorry, Hutch, but I have to tell people when they're wrong (you know the type uh?). It's Civic Center, Santa Monica.

When I went for my jog this morning I suddenly, after 50 minutes, realized it was too cold. And though I don't like to be sick, cancer/shrinkliver/ or so, I started to walk instead.

And while I was walking there in the darkness, I came to think about that almost everyone in my family (when I was a kid) was jogging; grandma, aunt Greta, my brothers and even my father.

So I smiled to my self, jogging surely was running in the family.

Free Palestine,

Clas


Name: clas
@ work

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 03:53:36
Comments:
sorry;

"C/F(add A with your nose, close to the nearest G)"


Name: Double Felix
tom foolery for president

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 02:07:39
Comments:
Everybody's talking about Grover Washington but nobody's recommending some titles so here they are:

1. Mister Magic
2. Reed Seed
3. Winelight

Winelight is his most famous because of the hit "Just the Two of Us". However, Mister Magic is the gem. Reed Seed has an early AOR staple entitled "Santa Cruzin"


Say Goodnight Grover,

Goodnight Grover


Name: johnboy
andithurtmyvowels

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 01:57:53
Comments:
accaional + occasional

Name: johnboy
kickedinthecar

Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 01:55:20
Comments:
Oleander: That was a pretty sexist response. Why on earth are women are immune from aquiring and displaying symbolic penises? I'll grant you that men more commonly exhibit that kind of behavior, but more than an accaisional woman does the metaphorical dick thing. And why is that a bad thing?

Schwin & Mu: Asimov died (in 92 or 92 I think). One of the most readable science authors ever.


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 21:52:46
Comments:
Midnite Cruiser - Congratulations on the new cat! Maine Coon cats are my second favorite breed, although I never tell my little darlings that. I'm looking forward to seeing the pictures. I should take advantage of the free web page provided to me by Erols so I can put up the pictures I took of Nyja and her kittens; whom I had not initially wanted her to have, but whom I loved and treasured once they arrived - I still have one, Gwynedd, with her gold eyes and soft, fluffy fur - her father must have had a longhaired cat somewhere back in his family tree.

Stranger and Stranger - But Kinky does have an amusing website!

Fezo - Speaking of the Statler Brothers, have you been to Staunton, Virginia, the hometown of the Statler Brothers and Woodrow Wilson, and their accompanying museums? The city is gorgeous; it was founded in the 18th century, but most of it was built during a very prosperous period around the turn of this century - it's the best collection of really spectacular late 19th- and early 20th-century buildings I've ever seen, and they have recently been restored as part of the National Trust for Historic Preservation's Main Street Project. Definitely worth
the trip.

Speaking of Stevie Ray Vaughan; I am most envious of you for having seen him live. I really do like him; when I was in college, I had a big poster of him that a record shop was giving away. I once heard Garrison Keillor sing one of Vaughan's songs on his radio program; what a travesty!

Nietsche - You bring up some good points. I don't take the Bible literally, but it can be useful as a history of a group of people - we can always learn from the experiences of others. Some of the prose is rather good, too; especially the psalms. And you are right about a person's religious views changing over the years; that's a natural result of living and learning. I've always liked your namesake; he wrote some odd things about that Superman image, which were later used to nefarious ends by some people, but he wrote a lot of sensible, thought-provoking things too. I read, in one of Hans Kung's books, I think it was _Does God Exist?_, that toward the end of his life, when Nietsche had sunk into a deep despair, he was walking down the street and saw a thin, unhealthy-looking horse hitched to a carriage, and felt such a conneciton between the miserable animal and himself that he put his arms around the horse's neck and cried. I can relate to that; I liked him even more after I read that.

Susan - I got rid of my last car eight years ago, and I now get around on a humble, beat-up Jamis hybrid bicycle (although one that has been customized with a rear rack, suspension stem, and bar ends). I think that this shows that I am practical, cheap, and self-sufficient, and have strong legs!

Being an atheist is fine if it suits your needs; we are happiest when we find what suits us. You don't have to believe in God to be a happy, healthy person; you can still find what is good in life.

JW - Gorgeous cover art! I love that light breaking through; it's most hopeful, and, in a way, relates to our guys finally producing a new album after 20 years - there is always the possiblity of new creative efforts, as you and all the contributors have shown also. I like the patterns of black on purple - they remind me of pictures I've seen that show the growth of crystals (or so I remember; I'm not a scientist!). They also remind me of maps of bodies of water; the same patterns show up in different parts of the natural world.

I am sorry to learn of the demise of Grover Washington Jr.; I always enjoyed his music. I wish him all the best in his new life.


Name: Midnite Cruiser
MidniteCruiser@hotmail.com

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 17:23:38
Comments:
RIP Grover Washington, Jr....I hadn't heard until I read it here.

Altamira, Hank Silvers, JDubs and all other cat lovers:
My wife and I have a new member to the family....we picked him up in Asheville, NC last Wednesday and I should have some pics available within a week or so. We talked for quite a while on the nearly 4 hour drive back to Danville and about an hour into the ride, having gone though a hundred names, I finally said "We could name him after a Steely Dan song." The first thing that came to mind was Deacon Blues and since the wife loved it and I thought it was cool too we now have our new Maine Coon kitty....Deacon Blues aka Deac....pics in a few days.

MC


Name: Stranger & Stranger
NYC
Location: on your side KD,
Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 16:15:50
Comments:
It seems upon further review of Kinky's quotefest, that Kinky knows how to manipulate and twist context better than a Jersey politician. You're still all wet Kinky.

Kinky talk about "stinkin up the joint" - get over yourself !

Just think, on Feb. 29 we'll all be "superior human beings" like Kinky
Oh no , what will Kinky do when he isn't superior anymore ?

And what has Kinky ever contributed to this board?, talk about "stink"


S&S


Name: TheStranger
But where shall I go? What shall I do?

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 15:57:54
Comments:
Ruby Baby,
What's this about Vegas? I feel I've missed something somewhere back in the GBook while I was living my life and not paying attention. Silly me. And what kind of car do you drive to prove your value as a person (just kidding, as I'm sure you know, you sweet, hip smart person, you).

Name: Hutch
srv

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 15:37:50
Comments:
aja - I saw Stevie Ray three times. After all, he's one of my biggest heros too!
The first time was at William & Mary Hall in Williamsburg. There were three acts on the bill: The Pretenders headlined (they had just hired Robbie MacIntosh), The Alarm was the second act and Stevie Ray opened the night. This was when it was a three-piece band. I think he had just done that album with Bowie. He came out with one of his trademark black hats (I dunno what you call 'em) with the silver dollar hatband looking like the very image of a resurrected Jimi Hendrix jamming right off the top of the set with "Scuttle Buttin'" and the audience was just mystified!
Then I saw him a year or so later at The Mosque in Richmond after they had added the keyboard. And the last time I saw him was about two months before he died. It was at The Carpenter Center here in Richmond. This was at the time when he had totally cleaned himself up from coke & booze and I have to say it was the best that I ever heard him play. He was on top of it in a way that's hard to describe. And it really was a rather moving show. At the end of "Third Stone From the Sun" he did a long extended jam with a lot of Hendrix-esque feedback and whammy bar stuff and then at the very last note of sustaining feedback he knelt down on one knee in front of the sound coming out of his stage monitor and bowed his head as though paying his respects to his mentor.
He played with an intensity that was dazzling at times.
If you haven't seen it you should pick up the DVD of his Austin City Limits shows.

JW - The cover art looks super! You couldn't ask for anything better than that. Great work.


Name: fezo
mysmileisthemakeup

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 14:53:13
Comments:
Roy: Tournament is in Charlotte, not Richmond, so we would only be able to see via video waves. I thought such viewing might be a useful diversion during the needed downtime for our livers.

Hope you and the Mrs. will be able to attend.


Name: aja
goin' insane

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 14:28:47
Comments:
Hutch-if you tell me you've seen Stevie Ray Vaughan (on top of the list you gave me) then I'm really gonna cry! But I saw Grover Washington, Jr. at the Playboy Jazzfest in '97, I believe. Thank you for a wonderful performance, and rest in peace...

JWM-have I told you how much I appreciate all this work you've done? :) I'm salivating just thinking about running to my mailbox and seeing...

tom-ditto to Altamira! I'm gonna miss your insight and interpretations. Come back soon!


aja


Name: David in the Florida Room
dmoore113

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 13:20:46
Comments:
Hi Everyone- I got a message on the guest book of my website from a fellow named Martin. He asked a strange musical question to which I have no answer. I wonder If one of the Esteemed Musicoligists that frequent the GB might know.He sent me this:

re: Smokie Robinson song"Tracks of my Tears".The arrangement of the
horn section during the chorus,"Well,take a good look at my face" has
been given the "human" quality of a "belly laugh".Just wondered if you'd noticed this.Or if anyone had.

Well folks, Have at it....and show a little more inthusiasm than you did for my Release. (except,Altamira,Edd and Oleander who each took the time to give me a review)

David


Name: Miz Ducky
dang, I do need more coffee!

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 11:58:22
Comments:
Shoot, I clean forgot to compliment JWMalibu on his sterling art for the GB Compilation CD! Sweet work, sir! As one who has patchked around with Kai's Power Tools and the like, I am all the more impressed with your Bryce work there! Can't wait to have the CD in my hot little paws, er, wings ...

/Miz Ducky
flying upside down?


Name: Miz Ducky
Sunrise, sunset ...

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 11:52:15
Comments:
DrMu: Thankee kindly!

As to the "Cousin Dupree" single: as I posted below, the source I quoted mentioned nothing whatsoever about the single's B-side. Zero. Zip. Nada. Now, obviously there's got to be a B-side, unless the Guyz have found a source of Moebius discs. So I guess we'll all have to stay tuned to see what that B side B. 'Twould be sweet if it were "Wetside," I really liked the groove on that tune. But ... I'm just wishing here. I know nuthin more.

RIP Grover. Man, it creeps me out when there's a notable obit like that so close to my birthday.

/Miz Ducky
who suspects she needs a cuppa caw-fee


Name: Roy.Scam
yo.yo.Farrah.ride

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 11:10:59
Comments:
JW: Outstanding artwork. The back sheet makes me think of that empty room in which John Lennon played his white grand in "Imagine". Set, of course, against a backdrop of Mizar 5. Downer surrealism at its best.

Hutch: In defense of Richmond as a meeting place, I've been to some great concerts there, including Randy Newman, The Band, Bonnie Raitte and Ben Folds Five. I saw BF5 at The Flood Zone, a bit noisy and youth oriented for a Danfest; the concert acoustics were good, but the average age was fetus.

fezo: I've heard that ACC Tournament tickets are a bit pricey. were you suggesting that we attend the games during the meeting. I'm for that; UNC and TvN.

RS


Name: StAl
stalfnzo@seanet.com

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 11:09:14
Comments:
ATTENTION ALL WEBMASTERS! I've just started a Steely Dan Webring. Any of you interested in participating, please send me an e-mail and I'll fill you in on the details.

For those that don't know what a webring is, it's simply a network of Steely Dan related web sites. You navigate from site to site via hyperlinks as if you were reading pages in a book. For more information, go here:

http://www.webring.org

The only drawback I see is particiapant sites will be subject to a banner advertisment which pops up when you click through to the next site. I don't have a problem with this cause I close that crap before it has time to load anyway...


Name: KD
that's it, I'm taking sides...

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 10:37:51
Comments:
Kinky: you are so sad.

This has to be the lowest.


Name: DrMu
parallelogram parking

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 10:18:50
Comments:
Schwinn: over 1000 publications before retirement. Amazing. Aside all the sci-fi stuff, he wrote a great, concise book on algebra which all high school students should read.

Grover, RIP. My brother is a big Grover Washington fan. I remeber especailly the quality of the recordings. Damn fine performances and engineering.

Had to re-read Dear Mitsi again. It's difficult to type when rolling on the floor. Have the words "rhomboid" and "multiorgasmic" ever been written in such close proximity?? NOT


Name: Kinky
gaslighting the guestbook

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 10:05:33
Comments:
Sorry folks, but it seems that a few people here are accusing me of making false accusations about our good friend Q. I've reposted the following for those suffering from memory failure, and/or who are just unable to comprehend simple phrases.
______

Name: Q
FLAROOM

Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 08:52:28
Comments:

Got it !
It's on the way........... "it's a real occasion" !
______

Name: oleander
TNO-2AN

Date: Friday, November 19, 1999 at 17:02:02
Comments:

Q--it? you mean IT?
______

Name: Q
FLAROOM

Date: Friday, November 19, 1999 at 17:07:40
Comments:

good catch ole !
______

Name: NO way I'm telling
bigred@aol.com

Date: Saturday, November 20, 1999 at 01:04:01
Comments:


Q- email me! I have the "new one" (on cd). Let's talk price. Remember you'll be getting it almost 5 months before it's released to the public. What's it worth to you BIG boy? You won't find this on ebay!!
______

Name: Q
FLAROOM

Date: Saturday, November 20, 1999 at 06:36:01
Comments:

"No way I'm telling" at bigred@aol.com - sorry, I've already got it........maybe I'll put it on eBay!
______

Name: Q
FLAROOM

Date: Saturday, November 20, 1999 at 08:24:00
Comments:

Man I wish I could hide behind dummy ID's all the time.]

Envy is a horrible thing.

Most of the pathetic little geeks around here still can't take a joke - and still have to hide.......
______

*(Envy, of course. So that's what Q is after. But wait a minute, is Q saying this is all just a joke? That he really doesn't have the new album? Read on...)
______

Name: Q
danman1@tampabay.rr.com

Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 at 05:17:41
Comments:

2AN kicks butt - definately a Gaucho on uppers or an Aja on downers.........
______

Name: Your Second Grade Teacher
@school

Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 at 09:54:00
Comments:

Q: If you're going to bring candy to class, you must bring enough for the whole class. JW has the list dear.
______

Name: Q
sworn by the Gods

Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 at 14:25:49
Comments:

to obfuscate all further inquiries...........
______

Name: oleander
in clover

Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 at 18:28:54
Comments:

Q--Extravagant luck. Really, man, it stings for us shadedwellers to know someone else who really cares is basking alone in the Danlight, but hey, it'll swing around to us.
______

*(Hey Ole, thanks for backing me up on this one, I mean, I realize you didn't want to rehash the fact that you got duped by Q's pathetic little game, but I'm surprised that you, of all people, would let this error go unrevised)
______

Oh sure Q recanted his statements after he'd received more attention in those four days than he'd gotten in the last four years (as did Clas). But, please people, if you don't know what you're talking about, keep your posts to yourself... boy, this guestbook's going to be a lonely, desolate place.

By the way, Q, wrong again, that was not me posting as "Big Red".


Name: GirlFred
schopsimmerstir

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 09:02:39
Comments:
Hi y'all

I still haven't heard Cousin Dupree or What A Shame About Me,
but after coming out from under this last party I'm catering on Sunday, I'll get my tapenade encrusted fingers clean enough to touch a copy. I'll let you know.

JW -
Can't wait. nice,nice,NICE. more than 'Thanks' again.

Sumptuous
mmhmm

whoever posted -
the bit about women and cars was umm... kinda off base, methinks.
whatever. I pull my trailer behind a little Saturn - black velvet Elvis bumperstickers - my ex tho, drives a huge red pickup truck that is quite reminiscent of a ... well, use your imagination. It has a heated, vibrating seat cushion.


Richmond is a fine town. lived on Boulevard for a year or so, catered at the museum, baked for a couple of restaurants on Cary.


break's over, back to the kitchen..


Fred


Name: Hutch
!!

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 07:59:18
Comments:
Sorry Geena. I put your name where mine was supposed to go.
I'll go have another cup.

Hutch


Name: Geena
.

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 07:57:33
Comments:
Geena - Sadly, the rumor you heard is true. He collapsed last night in New York while doing a taping. Only 56 years old. What a loss.

cnn.com/1999/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/18/washington.obit/index.html


Name: Geena
wonderin'....

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 07:41:49
Comments:
I heard that Grover Washington Jr. passed away, don't know if this is rumor, but i can't find any information on this. Does anyone know?

Name: Schwinn the Lesser
great expectations

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 01:43:43
Comments:
Yes, and happy belated b-day to you as well, Dr. Mu. Isaac Asimov turned 82 on the 16th and how much you wanna bet he'll hang on till at least 2001?

Like a Movie,

SEMBthelesser


Name: Schwinn
transcendental trojan

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 01:28:42
Comments:
JW: Super groovacious ultra funky work, dude! How do you find time to shop?


Three Cheers for Mr. Malibu,

SEMB


Name: DrMu
over troubled transition

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 01:22:36
Comments:
The guitar solo of course is the bridge: a musical adjective for the chorus in this song

Name: DrMu
Freedom of Speech not FROM speech

Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 01:14:54
Comments:
Miz Ducky: Happy Birthday!

18 days until the single: Cousin Dupree. Was it Wet Side Story (live) on the "B" side (I guess that technically doesn't exist)?

Ole: I hear the chorus as reminiscing. The bouncy piano chords with Walter's guitar over the top are a joyous reminder of those stompin' days


Name: JWMalibu
www.boards.com

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 23:48:54
Comments:
I finished the GB Compilation artwork tonight, and I've posted low-resolution of the images going to Armadillo Digital this week, including jeweerI'll be posting song order and credits in the next few days. All artists: please proof your credits from the GB Compilation page, thank ya' very much!

I still don't have 5 or 6 physical mailing addresses for GBrs who requested a copy on a timely basis. I'll drop e-mails to those MIAs who haven't responded...check the site to make sure I've received your addy, thanx!

Rest in peace, Grover...


Name: jk
jk

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 23:17:17
Comments:
Cousin Dupree is the single, I believe, Ms Mancino. Shouldn't DJ's have it now?

http://www.halleonard.com/hal_original/item_detail.icl?userid=ID583651007380&itemid=4000738&keywords=Steely+dan&searchcat=All%2BCategories&searchtype=product&refer=search

Shine up your tubas - babies!

jk


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 22:44:15
Comments:
Tom - Hey, I'll miss you while you're gone, but I hope you have a great holiday. I've enjoyed your thought-provoking and original posts, as well as your sensitivity and kindness. Your thread about the Trinity brought rather distantly to mind the similar reference by Don MacLean, although he is certainly not in the company of our guys. Hey, I'm not your average Christian either - as a highly cynical and liberal Episcopalian with a strong preference for traditional liturgy and church music, I'm way out on everyone's fringe. But people are so much more interesting when they defy categories! I hope you'll hurry back here once your trip is over.

Name: julie
m

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 21:22:51
Comments:
There's only 2.5 weeks left to the single, dup. Does anybody know what else will be on it????

I'm sorry that our boys did not make it in to the Hall of shame!

Julie

Have a lovely holiday everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!


Name: .
.

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 20:22:39
Comments:
.

Name: Singapore Steve
stephenvincent@yahoo.com
Location: Jurong West, Singapore etc
Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 20:09:38
Comments:
Hey kids just a quick hi and happpy Holidays to everyone at this great page of Dandom...and a quick plug to my Steely Dan bibliography page ....am scanning in the old and decrepit , yellowing pages from magazines of yesteryear....

http://www.geocities.com/stephenvincent/steely.htm

Looking forward to the new One and the New year!!!!11

I do miss the snow though, but then again I am a lot like George Bailey!

Happy freakin new Millennium Everybody!!!!!!


Name: oleander
that fearsome extirpation

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 19:36:26
Comments:
johnboy--that explanation is for men of little imagination who think that anything not shaped like a bowl is a phallic symbol.

susan--your bigotry is outpaced only by your narrowness.

tom--I gotcha. Very interesting. Mu's analysis would make it 7. Maybe what I was thinking of was the revised chimp trio--see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, and the new fourth member with its hands cupped over its sports car.

Mu--Very cool interp. The guy with the jackhammer. That is great. I always thought the song was about a guy who had been released from a mental institution, wandering around paranoid and half-delusional about everything from a gaggle of kvetching prostitutes to a construction site with his tombstone on it. But I guess I really think it comes down to the old standby: drugs. Is the guy in rehab? ("when they gonna send me home?") Is he relapsed the second he gets back on the street? (dreaming of alcohol and looking to score with his "large sum of money") Or remembering when he was strung out and looking for a fix? Delusional in withdrawal ("going insane")? The jackhammer guy would mesh perfectly as the singer transforms him into an angel of death.

Another really wild interp is at http://zappastuff.homepage.com/steelydan.htm
in which this song is part of an epic Dan saga.


Name: DrMu
clarifying my poor Engish

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 17:31:31
Comments:
The other 2 are separate entities from the 3 mentioned chimps but their association is not negated.

Name: DrMu
onemorechimpwhofrequentshere

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 17:24:05
Comments:
Sorry to break up the circle jerk - but we have an update on the ODP which contains the word "multiorgasmic" for the first time on a Dan trans(e)mission.

I'm going for the prison analogy for Bad Sneakers - BUT an interlaced recording studio claustrophobic semi-hallucination:

Five names that I can hardly
Stand to hear
Including yours and mine
And one more chimp who isn't here

(all 3 are "chimps," but since the word "including" is used, the other two are NOT part of that group...remember, Fagen was an English major. Perhaps the chimps are the core studio rats. Katy Lied was the first Dan recording which was a true studio/non band effort. Could the other 3 be part of the original group? ...or could they be referring to Dias, McDonald, and Porcaro - the ones who stayed from the '74 tour ensemble. Young Jeff Porcaro was often on the prowl and MIA.)

I can see the ladies talking
How the times are getting hard

(Imagine the close to broke Dan members peering out a studio building window where they could *see* the goings on of the outside world. Observation of the outside world is a recurrent Dan theme. A prison with bars has no direct line of sight to the outside world for many reasons. Occasionally, a small window at a local lock-up is present but way above eye level)

And that fearsome excavation
On Magnolia Boulevard

(no prison nearby, but could be near the studio)

CHORUS:
And I'm going insane

(claustrophobia)

And I'm laughing at the frozen rain

(don't have a clue here as in the next verse the heat is on - unless the heat is the cops)

And I'm so alone
Honey when they gonna send me home

(externalizing their "predicament" to The Record Company Formerly Known as ABC-Dunhill)

Bad sneakers and a Piña Colada
My friend
Stompin' on the avenue
By Radio City with a
Transistor and a large
Sum of money to spend

(Brief period of fun following bonus payment, which looked large at the time, following their first hits for CBAT)

You fellah, you tearin' up the street
You wear that white tuxedo
How you gonna beat the heat
Do you take me for a fool
Do you think that I don't see
That ditch out in the valley
That they're digging just for me

(taking another observation out the window at a man in a white safety suit wielding a jackhammer, then turning the image around and imagining the man diggin a large grave where the chimps will rest their weary bodies after finishing Katy Lied. Life imitated art, as the technical snafus with the noise reduction system almost caused the finest album ever recorded to disappear from the earth)


Name: Stranger & Stranger
NYC

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 17:15:40
Comments:
Your right, Q didn't say he had it.
Kinky is way off base.

S&S



Name: KD
help me out, here
Location: onhoops.com,
Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 16:48:24
Comments:
I don't recall Q ever saying that he had the new album, does anyone else?

Am I losing it?

jus wonderin...


Name: Kinky
What A Shame About Springtime

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 15:05:11
Comments:
Satan - It's only desperate when one claims to have something that one does not. You know, like Clas feigning cancer, or Q claiming to have the new album when he doesn't... just a ploy for attention. Desperate, indeed.

Name: tom
toodles for the hol i daze

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 12:35:33
Comments:
quick note to say one's off thru Christmas

just wanted to say thanks for the warm welcome to a newbie here in Dansville

I hope my comments on the "Bad Sneakers" trilogy din't spark the latest rounds of religious and anti relig threads. Not my intention. I'm enjoying the comments and certainly not offended by them. Like Aja, I'd say I'm not your 'typical" Christian. Nietzche thanks for the nice comical relief!

and to what ever winter festival you aspire to - may it be happy and Dan filled one

stop in on the avenue by Radio City


Name: Mayor Rudy
still lobbying for G.B site

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 12:25:43
Comments:
Good Afternoon everyone. I see that the site for the Fest is still up for grabs. Richmond is on the list, well i guess we could get drunk and act like sailors on leave there. I would like to think we have a little more to offer than that. Imust admit we don`t have a Confederate Capitol Museum...... oh well can`t have everything.....gotta sign the 18 percent increase the Transit workers Union put a gun to my head to AGREE too...... hummmmm now thats N.Y.

Name: Hutch
nimblefingers@tone.com

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 11:54:38
Comments:
aja - Yep... saw Eric Johnson at the Flood Zone. I guess it was about five years ago. That is one smokin' three-piece unit. The bass player and drummer are every bit as impressive as he is. I think he and David Gilmour have got the best guitar tones going.
The Jack Bruce show I saw there was one to remember also. Bruce came out with his band and did the first half of the show with some of his material and then after a break his drummer sat out and Ginger Baker played with Jack's band for the second half. Of course they did some Cream stuff (their guitar player was right on top of it too) and some other new stuff Bruce had written.
I was fortunate enough to see Jimi Hendrix in '68 and again in '69 at the Va. Beach Civic Center. At the '68 show The Soft Machine was the opening act complete with enormous oil projection light show. Definitely an Experience!

Name: GodFreud
eggnogstic

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 10:34:55
Comments:
please note:

i've had enough of the icicle lights.

cinnamon stick,

gf


Name: aja
not a traditional Christian

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 10:28:28
Comments:
Nietzsche-please keep posting-I love people who make me think, and think differently than I. BTW, are you a Dannite?

Susan-if your seeking leads you to atheism, that's cool. No one should believe in God just because someone tried to "save" them. No one could convert me. On an intellectual level, I discovered God when I went pre-med and studied the configuration of DNA in chromosomes, and in e=mc2.

And that brings me back to "Double helix in the sky tonight"-kinda represents my view on God, I suppose.


aja


Name: Nietzsche
whoa there

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 10:01:20
Comments:
Um--reading my last couple of posts, I realized I may have come across as a bit...harsh against religious people. I'm not mad at all religious people, just the ones who impose their values on others. And, as a matter of fact, I consider myself an agnostic. Who knows what my beliefs will be in 50 years (or for that matter, 100). Some of my best friends are devoutly religious, and the old bit of wisdom to never talk about religion or politics at the table may have some truth to it after all. But remember, I didn't bring it up first.

-N.


Name: Susan
!

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 09:47:32
Comments:
Susan, Satan... same thing

Name: aja
correction!

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 09:45:22
Comments:
Sorry Susan, I guess I should have been replying to "Satan". Get some coffee, aja!

And Nietzche-I think your questions are valid and everyone should ask them-seek and see what you find...


aja


Name: Susan
atheism

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 09:43:13
Comments:
Nietzche- I too am an atheist and I've learned to agree to disagree, even if the person trying to save me has not. You aren't going to win this battle so why even bother?

Name: aja
religion again-sorry

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 09:37:06
Comments:
Susan-I'm not offended, 'cause I know what you mean by "weak individuals" relying on religion-I find that those are people who use religion as a simplistic answer to things they don't (or don't want to) understand. I've also found some of the most thoughtful, intelligent people turn to religion to help them reach beyond themselves and become part of a higher understanding of the world and their place in it. Seek and you will find.

ruby baby-I have your post in my wallet. It keeps me centered, and reminds me not to selfishly focus on my own feelings. Can't thank you enough! Yes, I will remember where to turn when I need help.

tom-love the interpretation! I'm going to listen to that song again-I never picked up on that.

F#-I know why you pass by "Moondance" being as it's played on every possible radio format, but I'd give it another listen. To me, it's the most beautiful, passionate love song. Love to find the man that'd sing it to me!

Hutch-you saw Eric Johnson? I had "40 Mile Town" on when I read that. I'm still green with envy! He played at Street Scene here in 1991 but I missed him, and he's never been back since. Does he tour anymore?

Thank goodness the week is almost over!


aja


Name: Nietzsche
again

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 09:07:56
Comments:
Um, just one thing: can I still eat pork? Cause I really like that stuff.

Name: Nietzsche
ok, god is cool

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 09:01:50
Comments:
Oh, Lord, I have finally achieved the wisdom to tell me that I should put all my stock in a book written during the dark ages, and various random people's interpretations of it throughout the years to tell me what I should think and do. Now I can feel good about my weak self for once and now I can go to a special place when I die and all the people who are having more fun than me will burn in hell for all eternity.

Now when I get in arguments with people smarter than me (which is all the time), I can win without using that pesky logic! Who are you to question what I believe in! Now put away those sex toys, and those drugs, and that abortion apparatus, because it's not fair that you can do stuff that my god says I can't. Same thing with homosexuality. Believe me, I'd do it if it wasn't for god, so why should you be alble to do it.

Thank you, Sign In Stranger: The Steely Dan Fan Guestbook, for converting me.


Name: Satan
around

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 08:21:31
Comments:
and you thought god was everywhere, that's only true 'cause he's chasin' me around - I am everywhere

and its usually those weak individuals who consistently rely on religion, but I don't want to insult anyone unnecessarily

Kinky & Q, c'mon tell the board, you guys should be competing using fractional widths

i mean, really, Kink, how desperate do you have to be to use the alleged fact that you have the new one as a measure for competition? i mean, me and some of the other devils were yuckin it up

I'm watchin you - S


Name: tom
fearsome "explanations" on Magnolia Blvd

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 08:13:59
Comments:
Hutch - wow, those lyric translations had me laughing! thanks
at least Hal Leonard does a great job of musical transcription


fezo asks (and rather nicely)

Tom: that's one of my favorite lines but I never can remember it well enough to post. i never gave it the trinity interpretation though. it always sounded more like the off heard rant of someone with too much time on their hands thinking of the people who bug the shit out of them. your interpretation is cooler. can i adopt it as my own?

Certainly fezo,

I used to interprete the line as the delusioned prisoner's comment to a cell mate mentioning other cell mates and one chimp who isn't here (no longer in prison or no longer living). I always thought it was neat how the lyric leaves you dangling for the unmentioned mysterious other "two".

Then one day the "Trinity" slant on things came to me, probably inevitable as I'm a Christian. Wow, this takes on a whole new possible meaning! The song's protagonist is venting to a fellow inmate on a God he doesn't believe in ("who isn't here") seeing the messed up circumstances he's currently in.

Don't know if it's D&W's intented sublime, but this slant on things makes me chuckle!


transistor and a large sum of money to spend


Name: Hutch
words&music

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 07:04:49
Comments:
tom - The "Steely Dan Song Book" (the notorious Hal Leonard publication with wrong chords) has the line from Bad Sneakers as:
"... and one more Champ who isn't here."

also: "... and that fearsome *explanation* on Magnolia Blvd.

That book cracks me up!

fezo - Yeah, the Omni is probably the closest to the Bottom. I'll do a little checking around for alternatives.

 


Name: F#maj9
observe. what?

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 06:59:54
Comments:
Geena: Precisely. The guy whoood hide the soap, switch people's hi-tops when they weren't looking and spray Right Guard through the little locker door vents POSITIVELY SUCKED at gym...
still, others thought it was sooooo funny. lookit! MMMMMMWWWWAAAAAHHHHH. [yawn]

Clas: Off your... what?????? Fine. I'll buy you a drink(s) and we can talk about what a fine actor is DF. Almost counts in horseshoes and handgrenades- but, you should avoid the latter; seems you have a weak arm. Boom.

minah:[cue up some Steely Dan] pass me one of them orange push-ups?

My [pulling pin] next mood swing, three minutes? cool.

School's out.
F#


Name: fezo
ibelieveinsantascause

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 06:28:54
Comments:
Susan: it's the ACC Danfess (though I'm starting to like the ring of Redneck Ville Danfess) so it's whatever weekend in March the ACC tournament is. I believe that is the second weekend (March 9-11) so mark your calendar now. And congrats on your new one to be.

Tom: that's one of my favorite lines but I never can remember it well enough to post. i never gave it the trinity interpretation though. it always sounded more like the off heard rant of someone with too much time on their hands thinking of the people who bug the shit out of them. your interpretation is cooler. can i adopt it as my own?

Hutch: Everytime I go down to the Bottom it seems to have changed. Different clubs every six months, but still the coolest place, besides Havana's which I think is elsewhere, to hang in the city. I had my one brush with celebrity greatness (well, besides being in the home of one of Statler Brothers) there. I was in an almost deserted Chinese restaurant and at the table to my left was Robert Cray. I wish I had said something to him but was starstruck.

Presuming there's a place with widescreens for basketball viewing, I like the Bottom as a gathering site except for the lack of cheap lodging nearby. Is there anything beside the Omni down there?

Anyone see Courtney Love on Letterman the other night? She's had one scary facelift. Looks like the Kathryn Helmond character in "Brazil"


Name: Susan
*blushing*

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 05:37:22
Comments:
Did I say pary? I meant party.

Name: Susan
nearly asleep

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 05:35:10
Comments:
I hate to start throwing labels around but women with sports cars are probably living in trailers and let their kids starve so they can keep their car shiny for cruisin'. I guess thats just what I picture. I really have no idea what kind of women would waste their money on something so ridiculous.

Hey- no one answered my question about when the big pary is. What am I, talking to a room of brick walls?

Also - does anyone know when that previously mentioned PBS special is supposed to come on. I need to plan my life around that.


Name: tom
badsneakers&blessedsocks

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 04:48:05
Comments:
Oleander asks

...Say--I counted six names in your analysis--which one of the trinity is the chimp?

simple or not so

"including you and I and one more chimp who isn't here"

you (1) + I (1) + 1 more = 5 (trust me it's the "new" math)

equation only works when the one more is the "three in one" Trinity of the God head

therefore from the point of view of the songs character, they are all chimps - including you and I

I'm curious how you came up with 6 Ole?


anyway yet another mysterious lyrical Dan excursion

I always thought the lyric was "chip" not "chimp", but that's what's on the Steely Dan "official" lyrics page. Sorta has a little Darwinian twist to it :-]


yes I'm laughing at the frozen reign


Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 02:23:03
Comments:
F/C (add A with your nose, close to the nearest G) - get off my back now for a while. Scarla O' Horror is a big girl and I think she can cope.

The Stranger - Is it cars now? I thought it was Brooklyn vs Manhattan.

No, that was YGK.

C


Name: johnboy
don't be afreud

Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 at 01:45:37
Comments:
Oleander: Sports cars = symbolic penises. Ahem......

Name: oleander
say goodbye to summer

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 20:07:49
Comments:
Big Fan--yeah, spill! Please! How's the vid? I'll patiently wait, but I'd love to be titillated.... By your eloquent report, anyway.

Susan--well, what about women and expensive sports cars? I'm already short and don't even have a penis.

Duck--Whoa now! That is some *tingly* stuff! Please keep us posted.

tom--speaking of tingle: the guitar solo on "Third World Man," the way Mr. Fagen says "sea" in "Florida Room," and the monks on "Surf And/or Die." Say--I counted six names in your analysis--which one of the trinity is the chimp?

FlaRmDave--speaking of the Fla rm, I'm pissed at you! You've got me going around with these songs in my head and I can't get them out! Mazel tov on a great job, man.

Geena--Q's right, there's a looong history none of these people should be expected to archive--talk about exercises in flagellation! All I can say is it's exponentially better and verges on gentlemanly in comparison. It's really too bad, since alone those two are very interesting and unique people.

Q--don't go. I appreciate you, not that that means doodlysquat in the great cosmic dance.

minah--not bad! How's the mini-minah?

DanFestants--this is Alamogordo.... We are rapidly approaching critical mass.... If we move the potential participants any closer together it will be... CHAIN LIGHTNING! Richmond is not exactly the center of culture of the western world (no offense Hutch), but it will be when we get there! How about we get Not Mayor Rudy drunk, blindfold him, and show him a good time has no geographical limits? Hutch--this is perfect, with you scouting from within. Keep us posted on potential Festsites. Gotta be a place where we can listen to 2vN, IMO. And when? Second weekend in March came up.... What think? What's the ACC sched, fezo? NY Danizens--when are you going to Do It? Maybe we could start there and just trickle down to Richmond.

Alternatively, we could meet at the Washington Zoo.

happy birthday to Mu
happy birthday to Mu
keep your hindlimbs in suspension
happy birthday to Mu


Name: Geena
observations

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 18:07:31
Comments:
F#maj9: No, not like the locker room of a junior high school, i see more of that here lately, but the days when Kinky used to toss a hand grenade into the room, then sit back and watch. And what's funny is NOW i know what he meant by it all.


Ruby: I bet the woman at the Estee Lauder counter had no idea who SD is!


Name: minah
@starbucks,waiting for ruby

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 16:59:58
Comments:
(Anxious to try his newly found comforting skills, minah walks into the line of fire)

(using a gentle tone) Ohhhhhh, Kinky and Q, come on fellas, that's enough of that. You boys just need some love, come on and sit in minah's lap. We'll talk about double drummers and window-pissing and eat orange push-ups!


Name: ruby baby
in a truck stop instead of st peters

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 16:46:24
Comments:
Hutch: yep, I'm talking the real thing baby including DF's unique vocals & his good friend MMcD & that luscious instrumental bridge. I got some free makeup at the Estee Lauder counter because I was so patiently waiting while she made this dumb personal call. But she didn't know I was happily grooving to the SD waves. Same for Tomorrow's Girls. And ixnay the Odisattvabay uzakmay. koay?

stranger: I sure hope you're going to Vegas. I want to meet the person who says so much in so little words. What's more cool than that?

rb


Name: Kinky
sizzling like an isotope

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 16:30:33
Comments:
Q quit posting? Great! That right-wing hooey sure stunk up the joint.

Jon the Yellowbelly - I may not be clever, but I know Donald Fagen when I hear him. And let me just say that it is FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC!!!

Stranger - No, no, no, you got it all wrong. Whichever one of us has the new album is clearly the superior human being. Give a Rat's Ass about that?


Name: TheStranger
cell phones and DVDs and BMWs and Rats' Asses, These Are A Few Of Your Favorite Things.....

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 15:53:25
Comments:
Q and Kinky,
You are both right. Whichever one of you has the most expensive car is clearly the superior human being.

Name: The Conductor
Train of Life

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 15:48:18
Comments:
Dear E,
I suggest you try to make the best of your life on Earth. It may be your last stop.


Name: Hutch
twoinarow

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 14:49:41
Comments:
I take that back. You can hear some good Blues in the Bottom.

Name: Hutch
va.redneck.com

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 14:23:01
Comments:
Ruby - Are you hearing the real thing or muzak versions in those dept. stores? I was sitting here trying to imagine a muzak version of Bodhisattva. It's kind of disturbing.

My vote's for Richmond since I live here! There are any number of places to get together. Anne, you were referring to The Flood Zone which was a pretty nice little venue up until just recently. It was bought by some goofball on a disco trip. It's now called the Have a Nice Day Cafe and it has those yellow smily faces all over everything. Talk about disturbing! Back when it was a rock n roll hall I saw some great shows there... Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker, Johnny Winter, Eric Johnson.
But that building is down in the historic old part of the city called Shockoe Bottom where there are plenty of clubs etc. with live music (mostly college puke crap). Out in The West End you've got your typical Bennigan's, Friday's, Hooters (one no vote noted!)but there are a couple of British pub type places downtown and elsewhere.


Name: Mutha of God
@the apartment of Nietzsche's most important American heir

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 14:07:53
Comments:
A little wisdom takes you away from religion,
and a lot of wisdom brings you back to it.


Name: E
E

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 14:00:30
Comments:
God is the King of The World I'd rather be safe when the world gets blown up by crazys. I'm ready, take me out anyday.
Oh, and by the way Merry Chistmas to all who are for Peace, that this world can't offer. I really wouldn't mind if the world ended in May get a few more months of good Steely Dan sounds and blast off to a better place than here. Have a Great Day!

Name: Susan
and Susan Jr.

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 12:38:43
Comments:
When is this Steely Dan meeting supposed to occur? I hope that I’m not too pregnant whenever it is.

Name: tom
8-25-00 NID 00=1900

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 12:18:02
Comments:
I always felt that the line from Bad Sneakers -

"five names that I can hardly stand to hear,
including yours and mine and one more chimp who isn't here"

referred to the Trinity (Father, Son and Holy Ghost) to round out the "mysterious" 5.

certainly from the vantage point of the unstable jailed protagonist in the song, I'd have my doubts too under those conditions. As with many Dan songs the characters vantage point reflects certain sentiments that may not be the artists actual guarded views.

D&W always seem to do a great job of getting inside the head of their characters - elusive social commentary light years above the typical derivative lyricist


honey when they gonna take me home


Name: ruby baby
sparkleinyourchina

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 12:01:10
Comments:
aja: I'm so glad things went well for you! Keep going to the Rock. As for your kind words, I thank you!

Altamira: Hey, sorry that my post to aja brought up some painful memories. But you know what? I'm glad you vented it. Stuffing it back down is the other alternative, which I wouldn't wish on you. Your words were grouchy (ouch!) but as I once read somewhere, "better are the wounds from a friend that a kiss from an enemy." And we are friends. (btw, I wasn't showing off, just assissting a fellow Dan-ite the only way I know.)

Tom: It's always great to hear SteelyDan when I least expect it. I heard Bad Sneakers in a dept store once. Thought my ears were hallucinating. I heard Tomorrow's Girls in Petsmart. That was cool. If I ever hear Bodhisattva sometime when I'm "out there" I'll probably faint!

rb


Name: God
Nietzche is dead

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 11:11:50
Comments:
and I always get the final Word

Name: Not Mayor Rudy
you jerks

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 11:03:42
Comments:
Yeah Hank- Stay in Richmond! Afterall why come to the greatest city in the world? I'm sure you feel much more at home in Red Neckville. Some of you people don't have a freakin clue!

Name: Hank Silvers
Nietzsche is dead

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 10:52:52
Comments:
Add one more vote for Richmond over NYC from me.

fezo: First Hiatt album I bought was Slug Line, back when he was the American Elvis Costello. The last one of his I really liked was Slow Turning. Little Village has some good old-fashioned Hiatt "take a metaphor and run it into the ground" songs, but I also skip lots of tunes on that one. For a while, I would pull out Bring The Family just to see if I'd like it any better after a few months. No dice.

ole: Nice new artwork on your pages. Counting down the hours now...

Happy Birthday to all, and to all a good night...


Name: F#
big hoops woops

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 09:24:06
Comments:
KD: HIM. not you. HIM. sorry. typing too fast. tickatickatickaticka

F#


Name: Edd


Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 09:16:38
Comments:
I've noticed no correlation between religion and intellect.


Name: Neitzche
god is dead

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 09:11:14
Comments:
Ever notice how the most religious people are also the stupidest?

Name: F#maj9
still life, God watching

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 09:05:11
Comments:
fezo: roger that John Hiatt sentiment; Little Village makes Big Smile [right to the top of the solar panel bald-headed guy]. was surfing and found VH1 'women of all time[?]' thing and did a slow turnin' during the Bonnie Rait segment- the singer/songwriter was on stage slinging her Coricidan bottle doing a thang called love w/no mention of who actually wrote that one. oy.

KD: I wouldn't call you a racist- I'd call you ignorantly confused.

aja: Into the Mystic, yessssss; colour me Maxfield Parrish Blue. Moondance still regularly spins on the platter [eep. vinyl!] though I skip Moondance itself. Saw VM perform ITM in Central Park [long ago] in an *obvious* trance. wow. some aritists put themselves 'out there'... some get on out to get down in. Bill Graham [according to his book] would lovingly plead with Van to remember that there was an audience out there... but it was bad advice. V just remembered to forget to remember he'd forgot.

Geena: you mean the old days were like the boys locker room of my old school? [junior high]

Susan: Clas is a master of self-amusement

Oleander: tiny synchrocymbals on the finger tips of Shiva [a lot of fingertips]; the dance never finishes, but it does end...

Anne: God might not have such an intimate relationship with us after all

MizDucky: you glow, girl

JWMalibu: Phishing for covers- have you heard them do Frankenstein? ay caramba. Perhaps I can send tape [wow flutter hiss] to return some of your gracious efforts and generosity?
you say the woid bro

Edd: maybe pre-orders result in extra dollars for the Lexus fund?

harmonically,
F#


Name: tom
West 54 / A certain Phair / IGY

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 08:08:30
Comments:
KD - Yes it does look like John Hiatt has taken over hosting Sessions at West 54. Byrne would have been real nice. I never have caught the Liz Phair 54 performance, but glad to know others are out there who also like her work. I actually went to an Alanis M. concert last winter just to catch Liz's opening act.
"I want to be cool, tall, vulnerable, and luscious" indeed.

Miz Ducky - thanks again for the PBS and single announcement -

as for IGY, thanks for picking up on the tingle thread,

yes it does sound great in headphones where the music appears to be dancing in and outside your head. I always chuckle at the song as I am a geophysicist by profession.

Altamira - I always emphasize the grace not the judgement of God, yes there are a lot of legalistic and well intentioned people out there always looking for some cause and effect. Only disbelief in His provision and our need truly seperates one from the God of the Bible. My heart goes out to you and your family.

I bought the latest reissues of KL, RS and Aja even though I have the box, decade and earlier pressings. The packaging is finally a very nice compliment to the music. $9.99 at Curcuit City was reasonable.

cheers


Name: Lars
-

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 07:38:33
Comments:
Your FATAL missunderstandings about those cookies is foregiven Clas. Althogh cookies nowadays are considered as strategic weapons by active and bypassed cultural workers. That english thing must be some reference to Queen Mary. This is serious stuff and I´m glad that Clas treats it like that.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 06:59:44
Comments:
Wow.

Dr Mu, forgot something on that liver thing. I said it's pretty much like Sweden, but I forgot that tax/insurance-thing. We, I think all Scandinavians, are paying the insurance over the taxes. That's why we have some morons here in Scandinavia that is yelling about the taxes. They don't understand that if they don't pay over the taxes, they have to pay for insurances.


Name: Geena
obeying orders

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 06:48:55
Comments:
Am I the only one who seems to be enjoying the repartee between Kinky and Q??? It's quite a refreshing change from the usual bantering.

Welcome back Kinky! Just like the old days, huh?


Name: Clas
@ biscuit bay

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 06:47:42
Comments:
Press Stop! Press Stop! Press Stop! Press Stop!

This is a very sad day for you and me and other fellows around this big ball.

MARYLAND COOKIES are made in England. At the "The Horizon Biscuit Company Limited, Pasture Road, Moreton, Wirral, Merseyside, L46 8SE, England".

Queen Victoria! You stole the name "Maryland" for something so simple as cookies! Shame on you!

Tvi vale!

Susan - I must be the wrong guy. I don't do sports, and absolutely no eastern stuff. (gaslight, gaslight)

By the way, did you get a hang of where that MovieTheatre is now? 33rd/2nd something. Great place. And I promise, no bloody tourists.

Altamira - so you don't call it "castration" when you rip the balls of a cat or a dog or a... man (oooooooh, my scrotum!)?

And take it easy on your cat. She'll make it.

You ARE interested in trains? Amtrak? That's why the interst in Streetcars too? My father was obsessed with trains. His idea of a good vacation was a trip to Hamburg and hanging around the Central Station all days. WITH the family.

So Long,

C


Name: Susan
22nd Birthday in 4 days!

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 05:46:07
Comments:
Hello All.

My birthday is on the 20th. I’m really looking forward to those birthday presents wrapped in Christmas paper.

I know I’m new to this guestbook, but I’d like to put my vote in for Richmond. That way I could go too! Richmond is only two hours from my house. You have no idea how exciting it is for me to imagine meeting other Steely Dan fans. I’ve really only met a couple in my lifetime, and they were the “greatest hits” variety.


Name: jon
@ his yellow stripe
Location: Beanville,
Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 05:37:07
Comments:
Q--don't do it, man. Don't go underground. Anyone who's been around this board longer than the last 3 weeks can vouch for your cred, and knows who the creep is in the latest round of your ongoing, verbal jousting tourney. C'mon, the shmuck isn't even clever...

Don't let the philistines cause self-censorship. We need you to keep it legit.


Name: Day Glo Freak
says sheik

Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 00:39:51
Comments:
Altamira, Merry Christmas to you. May your bears never lose their buttons.

Mu: Actually, I believe there remains a controversy concerning Beethoven's actual day of birth, (15th / 16th). But considering young Ludwig remained four years old for seven years, well, what difference can one day possibly make?


Ear Horns for All,

DGF


Name: Miz Ducky
Mazel tov!

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 22:30:40
Comments:
DrMu -- happy birthday! Mine happens to be on the 18th -- let's hear it for Sagittarians!

/Miz Ducky
off at full gallop again (still?)


Name: DrMu
roll over

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 22:23:17
Comments:
On December 16, 1770 Ludwig Van Beethoven was born. I just happened to show up 188 years later.

Jan. 5 - Cousin Dupree will be released...one of the "classic" sounding #s according to the Foxnews philistine...can you hear congas?

I can be found driving an underpowered van that is most often used transporting our kids around...I'll let you imaginations run wild...


Name: Miz Ducky
mizducky@drizzle.com

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 21:43:35
Comments:
Paging YGK ... hey, guy, can you e-mail me please, at the above address, so I have yours? Got a New York-oriented question for you (three guesses, and the first two don't count!)

/the duck


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 20:34:11
Comments:
Amtrack Manager - Yes, I know about New York, but I'm not going to meet the love of my life, I just want to hang out with Dan fans. There is more to life than romantic encounters. Also, Richmond has a pretty respectable GLBT community as well; when I was a student at the U of MD, we often drove down to Richmond when we became bored with DC and Baltimore, and we greatly enjoyed the Richmond club scene - I still have a button I bought at a bar called, I think, The Rebel, that says "Gay and Christian," it's now worn proudly by one of my teddy bears, who have the burden of displaying my button collection. And, please, learn to spell the name of the organization you manage.

Name: Amtrack Manager
all a broad

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 18:59:28
Comments:
Altimira- It might be cheaper to Richmond, but..... New York City has a much better/larger gay community.

Name: oleander
start the clock

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 18:52:52
Comments:
Stranger--At least until 2/29/00.

Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 18:38:48
Comments:
Fezo - Thanks; I like to make plans early. Also, much as I love New York, it's cheaper to take Amtrak to Richmond, and I'm curious to see how the renovation of the old train station there is going. And it's a smaller city that is perhaps better suited for an intimate gathering of devoted Dan fans.

Name: fezo
dontfreezeupinside

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 18:20:00
Comments:
One of my musical heroes interviewing two of my other musical heroes. The only way it could be any better would be if Gilmour dropped by the studio and did an hour acoustic set during the pledge break.

John Hiatt, for those who haven't heard of him (his name drew a blank at Danfess # 2), is one of the best songwriters around these days. Most if not all of hits have been recorded by others like "Angel Eyes", "Drive South," and "Ready for This Thing Called Love". He's also not half bad of a singer. For a good representation of his work, check out "Live At Budokhan?" or his work as the front man with Little Village.

Alt: Richmond is sounding more and more like a go with definitive plans to evolve over time.


Name: Q
FLAROOM

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 17:20:34
Comments:
hey, you've got it monkey man.... since I'm the "problem"- although the history goes back a long way, much of which your unware, I'll go "read only".

Problem solved.... I know I feel better, and I'm sure you and many others do to.


Q


Name: aja
Calling Mr. Farrakhan

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 17:08:54
Comments:
KD-forward that loser's e-mail to www.noi@aol.com or wwwnoi@aol.com and let them answer that idiot. That's the e-mail for Nation of Islam-I'm sure they'll have a few things to say to him. My blood is still boiling.


aja


Name: TheStranger
2 zillion American a week die from the wrong prescription: you heard it here first.

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 16:16:50
Comments:
Oleander,
Yeah, Elvis is dead, Rick Danko is dead, Joseph Heller is dead, and I'm not feeling so good myself. What's the life expectancy of a Dan fan?

Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 16:15:43
Comments:
Clas - Female cats and dogs are spayed. In the UK, the incision is made on the side, right in front of the hip, which makes sense since this is close to where the ovaries and uterus are located. In the US, however, the incision is made in the abdomen, so the doctor has to push past a number of other organs to get to those that are to be removed. I don't know how the operation is done in Sweden. My little, darling kitten, Gwynedd, will be having her operation in another month - I'll be a nervous wreck; I'm dreading the whole thing.

Tom - My heart goes out to you; my niece died a few years ago, just a few months after my father died. There were all sorts of complications involved, and it was a time of tremendous pain for the entire family. I ended up losing my faith as a result of it - my mother kept saying that her death was God's will, which I found horribly repugnant, and my brother thought that her death was God's punishment for his recently revealing to his wife that he's gay. I told them that a God who would do something like that was one I couldn't believe in, and although I didn't really think that God would do something like that, their views repulsed me so that I didn't believe in God for a few years after that. Anyway, we're all doing much better these days (now that Mom's gone over to the other side, I hope she's learned that God doesn't kill people, and that God's not going to send me to hell, something she used to tell my brothers), and my brother and I have a different view of God and how she deals with people. (I'm sorry, YGK, but we go off-topic fairly often and I don't see that this is any worse than any other topic.) I hope you're doing better now too; those things are so painful and hard to recover from, but I do think that we can end up stronger and wiser as a result of them.

What's going on with the planned gatherings in Richmond and/or New York? Or are more definitive plans going to be made later on?


Name: Miz Ducky
that tingling sensation--or just heartburn?

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 14:30:37
Comments:
Tom, KD: having checked out the WNET-NY website, I'm betting that the show in question may well be that "Sessions" thang. The link has John Hiatt listed as the host. I'm sure he does a fine job, but man, that would have been especially neat to see Byrne interact with our Guyz! (Yeah, Byrne/Talking Heads is another of my fave groups).

As to "tingle" songs: I confess that whenever I hear a Dan song pop up unexpectedly on the radio, etc. I get a little buzz on. The other day I was in my local Safeway of all places, and "The Goodbye Look" came on over the PA. "Hello, Donald," I murmured under my breath, suppressing a totally inappropriate grin as I perused the hamburger buns.

But more to the point of the question: one song that for sure makes me tingle all over every time I spin the CD is IGY. All I have to do is hear those opening arpeggios over the headphones and I'm just all aglow and grinning. Gotta be headphones, though. IMO headphones are the best way to experience all Dannish music, but (again IMO) they are absolute required equipment for experiencing the total ear-candy of Nightfly. And if IGY over 'phones makes me tingle, you should see me vibrate into the ultraviolet when "New Frontier" hits.

/Miz Ducky
emitting a healthy glow


Name: KD
PBS
Location: onhoops.com,
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 14:14:54
Comments:
Does John Hiatt do 'Sessions' now? Is that a permanent change, or just one episode I saw. I thought Byrne had a good handle on things, but Hiatt did a good job in his.

I'm still reeling from Liz Phair's appearance. Yowza!


Name: tom
luckless pedestrian

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 14:12:26
Comments:
Miz Ducky - great news. Could the New York PBS program be Sessions Live From Studio 54? Generally they devote about 20-30 minutes to any one artist. Definitely a respectable list of artists have graced the show.
Also seeing David Byrne interviewing D&W would be more than entertaining.
Psychokiller meets the luckless pedestrians
preorder - is Giant records known for their mail order and speedy delivery? One of the other artists I like is Robert Fripp / King Crimson and their mailorder DGM (Discipline Global Mobile) has been notoriously late at times with new releases, but is more than made up for for their Collectors Club series of limited distribution of audio superior live recordings
no takers on the tingle dan songs thread?

Name: Hank Silvers
c/o Hugo Spaak

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 14:01:25
Comments:
Mlle. Canard: Yowie. Thanks much for the scoop from our Seattle correspondent!

Name: Mock Turtle


Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 13:48:54
Comments:
I would guess that a preorder gets you the disc early. Ohterwise, there would be no point. (There's a record store in my apt. building open till midnight every Mon. for new releases.)

Name: Whatevah happens
happens

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 13:46:33
Comments:
i agree with Eddd, who cares about the preorders if you don't get them until 2/29 anyway. Even amazon.com is already offering the same preorder. Just go to your local store that day and you'll probably get it faster.

Name: aja
What a loser

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 13:37:11
Comments:
KD-I've got an idea: if anyone knows the e-mail address of any militant, black panther types, let's forward/feed this guy to them.


aja


Name: Edd


Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 13:24:47
Comments:
Just what does "preorder" get me? Anything? Will I get a copy early? Or will one be mailed to me on 2/29? (That's not good, it'll take 3-4 days to arrive when I'm sure I can pick one up anyplace on release day.)


Name: Miz Ducky
Man, have I ever got the News!
Location: Seattle, WA USA
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 13:18:00
Comments:
Just finished posting this to alt.music.steely-dan, but for those of you who don't get out to Usenet, here it is again (slightly re-edited to fix a couple of errors):

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hi gang! Heard the following this morning on Dan-friendly Seattle radio station KMTT 103.7 FM a.k.a. "The Mountain," during John Fisher and Mike West's morning show (John Fisher is the raving Danfan whose show producer arranged for the Guyz to phone him on the air the other year, incidentally breaking news of TNO for the first time). [Ed. note--you can find links to RealAudio files of these phone calls on the front page of this here very website; just scroll down a smidge]

Anyhow, Fisher spins "Chain Lightning" (he gets in at least one Dan song every show), then says hang on after the next commercial break, he's got some important Dan info. I grab pen and paper.

Fisher and his partner return from the break, and Fisher says he's got this fax in his mailbox this morning from Giant Records, saying firstly that the first single off 2vN is going to be "Cousin Dupree" and will be released 1/5/2000.

And then--Fisher putting in an aside to the effect that maybe his boss will get mad at him for sharing the next--he reads on to the effect that SD are going to be taping a PBS (Public Broadcasting System, for our non-US readers) special, in New York City, at the end of January.

Further, there's supposed to be some channels by which limited tickets to attend this taping are supposed to be distributed to radio stations for giveaways ... this is where Fisher got a little cagey, but apparently KMTT's supposed to get one of these tix, and there might be a contest by which to win it ...

And this is where I started hyperventilating, but I think he was pretty well done by then. :-)

So! At the very least there will be a PBS special due to hit the airwaves in the US; and there's some chance of getting in the live studio audience (attention, New York City stringers--isn't that WNET that's the PBS-TV affiliate there? can you check with them, and let us know what you get?). And the first single's a helluva lot closer than I had thought!

Pretty durned kewl, huh? I'm still breathing hard, a little ...

/Miz Ducky
grrrl reporter


Name: KD
Asshole of the Year!
Location: onhoops.com,
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 12:34:36
Comments:
Look at this charming piece of work that just landed in the OnHoops inbox:

I'm sick of you losers knocking all the white guys in the NBA.
The only reason it seems that black guys are better at basketball is because
they jump alot!!
So do monkeys.
Also ever noticed that the best point guards (Stockton, Jason Williams) are
white,
why, because it is the position that requires the most intelligence and
leadership.
Notice how few black quarterbacks there are (same reason), and no it's not
because their black and therefore aren't given the position (not in these
politically correct times) it's because every time a black guy is put into a
position requiring leadership and intelligence he fucks it up.
I don't know if you guys are white or black, and I don't give a shit, if this
offends you then mission accomplished.
You can call me a racist, but you obviously are too, by constantly degrading
white guys.
Now go kiss MIchael Jordan's overhyped ass.

If you want to email this fellow, his address is SC821@cs.com

I can't stress this enough, if you are, in any way, interested in dropping this person a line, his address is SC821@cs.com

SC821@cs.com

again, SC821@cs.com


Name: aja
dime dancing away

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 09:26:01
Comments:
oleander, tom-thanks for the kind thoughts. I've learned that things like this can either make you bitter, or you can use whatever time you have here on this Earth to live as fully as possible and give compassion where you can. Some of the most giving people I've met have suffered terrible losses. tom-my condolences on the loss of your niece. I'm glad you found strength through your faith.

JWM-was listening to Van Morrison last night. "Into the Mystic" is has some of the most beautiful lyrics.

YGK-I don't think any topic should be off limits. If I'm not interested in something, I just scroll past it.

ruby baby-had my talk with that person, and it went great. I read your post over and over-can't thank you enough for your insight and wisdom. Now here's the funny part: when I went to print your post, I thought I set my computer to print 1 page, but it really was set to print all pages! Well, we've chatted away for 157 pages! I wish you could have seen me standing at the printer at work, trying to look business-like as I nonchalantly fed scrap paper into the printer 157 times!

Altamira-I'll e-mail you soon. Thanks for the prayers!


aja


Name: Susan
bored at work ( big surprise)

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 08:34:27
Comments:
Clas- you are a master at confusion.

Name: Clas
@ work, Scarsdale

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 07:20:17
Comments:
Let's get this straight now.

Lars, you are right, the cookies I descriebed so astutedly, that, that, that was the Ballerina Cookies. I am going over and over and over that moment I wrote that "Maryland"-post but I just can't remember what disturbed, made me unfocused, in fact, made me so unconcentrated that I completely...

Hey now! Stranger, you understand that I mean Tuesday Weld? And though the accurate name for a castrated female cat is not "castrated" you'll also know that I mean a mailcat.

I can't caught me having wrong on one (1) Steely Dan lyric. The first times I listened to the latest, I read the lyrics along. That is a Must Do. Gives a more wholely experience to the artwork in question.

But me too Altamira, next time I go shopping (maybe already in a couple of months, it's my damn leg you see, damn Korean War ) I will look on the round cookiepackage and see where they are made. I hope they liner notes don't break my heart.

Now it's 4 in the afternoon. It's black and cold outside. My thoughts goes to New Orleans and that giant sinking sun when we where heading into town. "The sun sinks low all around, every little kiss..." (what are you doing to that fucking joint bitch? You're smoking it like it was a damn fucking cig!)

SunnySam, maybe I was drunk and stoned when I told you, but, I sure liked your ass.

C


Name: SoulMonkey168
SoulMonkey168@aol.com
KY
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 07:11:44
Comments:
Response to Kinkys inquiry:

Kinky I dont blame u alright we know what or should I say who the problem is, but I'm sick of it. No hard feelings man. I would like to have a friendly correspondence with everyone on this page but from some of the things being spoken about, that's a hard thing to do sometimes. Be cool and think b4 giving in to temptation. That's all I'm saying.
peace, the Monkey man


Name: Edd


Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 06:53:30
Comments:
...a myth perpetuated by men who don't have sports cars.

Name: Susan
just droppin the knowledge

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 06:38:04
Comments:
I’ve heard that men who buy sports cars that obviously cost a lot of money and are there only for show are compensating for a small penis or perhaps they are suffering from short man complex.

Name: YGK
..

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 06:18:18
Comments:
Kinky & Q - what a couple: do you know how ridiculous you 'look' on the GB? I thought people mature with age....

....and is it too much to ask to keep the religious discussions off this board?

ygk


Name: tom
bergeon@shellus.com

Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 05:29:44
Comments:
the stranger - relistening to aja it indeed sounds like "dime dancing" but the intonation and delayed delivery certainly sound like "dying dancing" - again the context fits both interpretations - the mudane necessity versus the escape he longs for

big fan - thanks for the video tip, any suggestions from the list on how to obtain it (didn't find it on e-bay)

van morrison - definitely very spiritual and uplifting work, his late 80's work especially. Real Real Gone

Aja and Ruby - being new here it's nice to see fellow Christians on the list. Aja, my heart goes out to you over your sister, I lost a niece last year under very tragic circumstances and the pain of why led me to a deeper trust and assurance in Him.

new thread - tingle Dan songs

what song or songs, no matter how many times you hear it, still gives you goosebumps and a strong emotional response?

for me "Doctor Wu" - that sense of such resolved desperation,
the lines "I was halfway crucified, on the other side of no tommorrow" then the uplifting hope of "you walked in and my life began again". The musical setting perfectly captures the mood of this piece. goosebumps indeed


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 21:39:24
Comments:
Aja - Hey, just a thought - maybe, if you think it wouldn't be an imposition or anything, you might drop me a line sometime, at the address above? We could compare notes on life, or something? It sounds like we might have some observations to share. You've been in my prayers; I wish you all the best.

JWMalibu - Ooh, sounds good - I'm all aquiver with anticipation!


Name: JWMalibu
www.boards.com

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 21:24:19
Comments:
I'd sure like to hear some more details on "The Making of Aja"...spill the beans, guys!

aja ~ Van Morrison writes some wonderful spiritual lyrics. "Mystic Eyes" was a personal favorite of the late psychedelic artist Rick Griffin, and it deeply inspired his art.

Phishy Dan ~ Those guys DO know how to play...you know what blows me away is their ability to play covers; not cover songs, but cover albums live! I've heard that they've played letter-perfect covers of "The White Album" & "Quadrophenia" live, which just boggles my mind...

Nice to see some fellow appreciators of master of post-literate prose, Stephen King...haven't seen "The Green Mile" yet, but I plan to this weekend. Anyone read "Hearts in Atlantis" yet?

Thanks to all for getting your snail-mail addresses to me for the GB Compilation...there are still a few for whom I have no physical address; please check the CG Comp page to verify my receipt of it. If not, please send it to:

JWMalibu@msn.com

I'd like to make a final count by Sunday, 12/19/99. You guys are going to LOVE the eclectic mixture of music on the GB Compilation! We should do an album every year...

Happy Holidaze!


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 21:05:57
Comments:
Aja - The Episcopal Church does tend to be quite tolerant, although there are some more conservative parishes out there. There is tremendous variety in this denomination, so if you don't like one parish, you'll probably be able to find another one that is closer to what you're looking for. Yes, life is quite complicated, but that can serve to make it more interesting and fulfilling. I hope all is going well for you.

Kinky and Q - Chill, folks. Life is too rough for people to be expending so much energy in snarling at one another. Really, all that animosity just ends up draining you and making you bitter - it's not worth it. And, yes, you may feel free to call me hypocritical because I've been snarling myself. I can give advice better than I can take it. I stand guilty as charged.


Name: Kinky
quick,somebody fart... Q can't breathe

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 20:59:23
Comments:
Bonded... Q ($100M) Bonded - Yes, you've made yourself quite clear. You feel compelled to tell us how much money you have and what kind of car you drive, yet it's me who posts to "prop his sorry ego"? Not too bright? No, Q, you're not. And you're right, you shouldn't waste your time trying to get the new album, after all, you might miss Cornelius Bumpus' used Q-tip on Ebay.

SoulMonkey - ARE YOU BLAMMING ME?


Name: oleander
ou sont les Hellers d'antan?

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 20:41:34
Comments:
Stranger--Amen. Now this is weird: I picked up a new copy of "Catch-22" a week ago. I'm reading another book, "On Killing," about, yeah, killing in the military I thought it was time to reread "Catch-22," which I read 30 years ago, 8 years after it came out. So I've been toting it around, and within a week 2 random strangers have said, "Oh wow, I just finished that." And then he died. The synchronicymbals are crashing.

St. Al--You forget. I have the Ferrari.

Susan--Watch "The Last Waltz" and maybe you'll get it.

to accept--Your Whitney rendition had me rolling.

Ash--As did your Poke-Dan. That was spot on and hilarious!

Hoops!--And I've heard TOOM overhead in McDonald's. The other night I heard a terrible Muzak (is that redundant?) of Countermoon in the grocery checkout.

Q--Dammit, I don't care about the Z. I just want "Aja"! Thanx for the glimpses.

Kinky--I think you know exactly how things are here: nothin'new. MWAH!

DanFests bustin' out all over!! Chicago coming up (when, Hoops!?); ACC mid-March; NYC peri-Release Date; Vegas in April??? How am I ever gonna get enough vacation time for them AND a tour? fezo--I'm definitely up for Richmond in Mar. Think it'd be more central. Though we could go to Danville!! MC would never be able to show his face on the street there again.... Other Va-Md-NC-SC-WV-Ga etc. folks? Occasional outliers? I'd also exert to come to NYC--I think the weekend AFTER Leap Day is a better idea.

aja--Terrible story about your sister. Condolences. You don't get over stuff like that.


Name: SoulMonkey168
SoulMonkey168@aol.com
KY
Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 19:34:11
Comments:

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

-RODNEY KING-


NOT THAT HE WAS A GREAT MAN OR ANYTHING BUT GEEEEEEZZ PEOPLE
FOR A WHILE IT WAS FUNNY A SORT OF REFLECTION OF THE SARCASIM
WE ALL LOVE AND ENJOY FROM OUR OBVIOUS HEROES BUT ENOUGH ALREADY THIS BACKSTABBING IS ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS. WHO CARES IF SOMEBODY DRIVES A PORSCHE, WHO CARES IF A COUPLE OF PEOPLE (THEY SHALL REMAIN NAMELESS) CAN'T GET ALONG. I'M NOT BLAMMING ONE PERSON OR ANOTHER BUT ENOUGH ALREADY. CANT'WE JUST ENJOY THE FACT THAT WE WILL HAVE 2AN IN OUR GREEDY LITTLE HANDS IN A FEW SHORT WEEKS. GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT.----------DAMN... SoulMonkey168


Name: jk
jk

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 19:18:44
Comments:
the mayans and the brilliant Olmecs before them told us that the world will positively end on Dec. 23, 2012!

Hey kink and Q don't you have better things to do than all your dodo in that short time!

be cool

jk


Name: KD
Tupac
Location: onhoops.com,
Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 17:30:26
Comments:
..has put out some great music, and his death was a huge loss for the music community. We missed out on a lot of good stuff...

Name: aja
not working

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 17:18:34
Comments:
Altamira-Episcopal church? I'll have to try that. I don't go to any church now because I haven't found one that teaches the message of love and tolerance, but I've never been to that denomination. Life is a complicated journey, isn't it?


aja


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 17:12:38
Comments:
Aja - I greatly appreciated your informative post. Ruby's message seemed to be good; it was the language that bothered me; it reminded me of that horrible, judgemental church I grew up in; so different from the Episcopal parish I've belonged to for the last 16 years. Had I thought about it for a while, I would have realized that the message is more important than the language and I wouldn't have responded. It sounds like all the difficulty you have been through has brought you wisdom, as it does for those who are able to learn from painful experiences. I've had a complicated faith journey also, so I'm familiar with this sort of thing.

The Stranger - Yes, singers do sometimes change the words. I've noticed that what, in my interpretation, are two of the most important lines in Teahouse on the Tracks, "The room turns bright/ Fills up with light," do not appear in the printed lyrics.

Andy - I actually kind of like Tupac. I'm not familiar with his music, but the articles I've read about him portrayed him as a fascinating person with much depth who had done a lot of reading and thinking, and had some good ideas.


Name: Andy
Clarification

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 16:53:00
Comments:
Let me clear up what I said about Tupac in my previous post. As Homer Simpson once said, "In case you couldn't tell, I was being sarcastic!"

Name: Q
FLAROOM

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 16:41:23
Comments:
YGK - just curious.....why wouldn't Kinky show ?

Name: aja
apologies make the woman

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 16:09:31
Comments:
Altamira-I'm sorry ruby's post brought up painful memories for you. ruby was answering my post, and perhaps you should read it to see how it affected me. I don't presume to understand what you've been through (and may be going through) but I'd like to tell you how I came to believing again. I'm not preaching-please don't misinterpret my intentions-I'm just telling a story. I lost my sister last year to heart failure. She had just turned 30 and given birth to her second child 2 months earlier. She also was a devoted Christian. I couldn't understand that if God existed, how could He be so cruel as to take a young mother from her husband and children, one who lived to spread His word? As I helped my brother-in-law raise his two kids I prayed for him-not because I believed it would do any good, but because my brother-in-law wanted me to. As the year rolled on, I realized that God doesn't control every aspect of my life, or insure that bad things won't happen to good people, but that God will be there for you to help you through them, and that you really are never alone. The God I believe in created and loves everyone: Christians, Muslims, Jews, gays and lesbians, straights; there is no difference in God's eyes. Something that gave me particular comfort this past year was a Van Morrison song called "Whenever God Shines His Light" that has the lines "Reach out to Him/He'll be there/With Him your troubles/You can share".

ruby's post was incredibly perceptive-she picked up on things that I didn't realize, and I know when I have my talk with this particular person it will go so much better because of what ruby said to me.


aja


Name: TheStranger
catch20two@yahoo.com

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 15:51:25
Comments:
JW Malibu,
email above.

Tom New to List,
I also heard "Dying Dancing is Through." And we may be right. Sometimes singers depart from the written text and printed lyrics don't always match what's actually being sung.


Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 15:51:11
Comments:
Q, Thanks - package received - Federal Express - boy you ruined somebody's day - they hate delivering to my town.

St Al - I think you have something there - only I was envisioning more like a MTV Celebrity Deathmatch - you know those clay type caricatures in keeping with the fantasy world of the internet pulling each others guts out. Good day and Good Fight.

Tom - a few years ago there was quite a long discussion about the various concert videotapes - most are terrible. That one from Manassas is first class and very watchable and enjoyable. See the Broberg site for ratings of the various concert videos and CD's.


Name: Q
FLAROOM

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 15:36:34
Comments:
There's one difference between Kinky and I, I don't stick my head up peoples asses in order to get along in life.

Kinky - when did I say I had the new album - EXCEPT - when I was CLEARLY kidding ? (oh yah, I'm such a liar, I'm bonded for $100M- you Kinky ?)

Kinky drives the outdated underpowered Ferrari that was always considered to be a piece of shit by real car fanatics and people who know how to drive real performance cars(Kinky's only in it for the ego trip)

I now drive the modified 400hp 4 door '98 M3(sold the '89 Porsche Turbo-needed 4 doors)

PS I have not made one single inquiry into getting any material regarding the new album........I've got too many other things to do. There will be plenty of time to get goodies, and hear it - my heart is sufficiently sated already with other music-including "the same old catalog"

Kinky = anguished, insecure, not too bright, bile filled, envious asskissing nobody (in the real world that is).

Gee, and I thought i was done having to listen to Kinky's spew - but then there's a new album coming out and Kinky has to beat his chest. When I post, it's for fun and information and to share, sometimes deliberately provocatively, sometimes drunkenly - when Kinky posts, it's to prop up his sorry ego.

Have I made myself clear ? And hear i was trying to get into a positive groove....and then Kinky had to jack off all over himself.......sheesh!

Q


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 15:26:41
Comments:
Ruby - I'm sorry; I shouldn't have sent that last message. Your post pushed some of my buttons and brought up painful memories, and I reacted in anger rather than waiting a while until the anger cooled. I need to put more effort into my anger-management strategies, and I am truly sorry for writing such a hurtful post. I won't do it again.

With humble apologies,

Anne


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 15:01:52
Comments:
Ruby - So God shares her thoughts with you and gives you messages to pass on to other people? Must be nice. She's not so forthcoming with me; I must be doing something wrong.

Name: Phishy Dan
tres Tres

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 15:00:37
Comments:
finally someone mentions Phish. maybe a little too Grateful Dan and jammy for some of yooz guys- but take Andy's post as a recommendation to get your hooks into Hoist [Rift isn't a bad place to start either]. Jazz chops, infectious Phish hooks, jive grooves, virtuousity with bizarre squiggly wormy turns and beyond Carlton solos that wrench giddy acts of God- you know, on second thought, forget them and get Tupac.

sorry. cheap shot.
can't go there with you A.

peace out
Ph#


Name: Andy
Music and decades

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 13:59:29
Comments:
I know I'm running a bit behind on this topic, but I figured I'd just go ahead and share this with you. Of course all SD stuff is included in its appropriate decade.

Best records of the...

60s Jimi Hendrix/Electric Ladyland, Rolling Stones/Let it Bleed
70s Dire Straits/Communiqué, Derek and the Dominos/Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs
80s Dire Straits/Making Movies, Michael Jackson/Bad
90s Phish/Hoist, Counting Crows/Recovering the Satellites, Tupac Shakur/Strictly for my NIGGAZ

Now for the explanation...

Michael Jackson's Bad -- you probably think it's a bad choice, but it's really a good record. A lot of SD players played on it -- Jeff Porcaro, Greg Phillanganes, David Paich and Paul Jackson, Jr. to name a few. And not all the songs are good (some are "bad"), most are well written and well performed. And regardless of what you think of the man, he can sing. Some of his later stuff...not so good (anyone hear HIStory?).

Counting Crows-- I usually hate bands that are put into the same genre as Counting Crows, but their music is very good. Not nearly as complex (musically) as a lot of the stuff I listen to, but it comes off sounding pretty good. I recently saw them in concert at the 9:30 Club in D.C. I was in the second row. It was a very good show.

Phish- If you haven't heard them, you should. Very interesting songs. I'm seeing them at the MCI Center tomorrow night. There will be plenty of "fine Colombian" at the MCI Center, that's for sure.

Tupac- The man's a genius. Enough said.


Name: aja
Just what I needed to hear!

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 13:46:10
Comments:
ruby baby-bless you! I was sitting here with a heavy soul and tears in my eyes until I read your message, and those were just the Words I desperately needed to hear. You're right, you're so right! I was starting to get sidetracked by my emotions, but you've got me back to where I needed to be. I'm going to print out your post and keep it close to my heart so that I may be guided by His love when it comes time to speak to this person. And thank you for your love; He definitely sent you with the perfect words for me, and He is the light that shines on you and from within you.


Love,
aja


Name: Kinky
up up and away

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 13:37:58
Comments:
St Al - Would you be in the room? Then I guess the answer would have to be B.

There's one major difference between Q and myself... when I tell people I have the new album, I don't lie about it.


Name: ruby baby
from their Boats of Ryan they looked upon...

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 12:37:26
Comments:
aja: hey, girlfriend! I'm sorry that someone is being hurtful to you. Well, actually there are some Words for you.
First of all, He wants you to know that He's very happy with you, in that you have not allowed anger to overtake you. You've been patient and are giving this person the benefit of the doubt - which is an aspect of Love. God is grateful to you for this!
Now, what I sense is that this person is fragile in some way. It's best if you approach him without accusations, such as, "You are always doing..." or "You're making me feel..." Instead, go with the "I feel hurt..." or "I'm having trouble dealing with this..." That will alleviate the need for them to become defensive. And I think that if you are gentle and brief the first time (I believe you will have more than one converstaion about this), then the next time will be easier and will bear more fruit. Give this person time for it to soak in. Your patience will pay off. And again, the Lord is quite happy with you for taking it to Him before you just let your emotions rule you. He wanted me to be sure to tell you that.

Merry Christmas!
rb


Name: Hutch
*

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 12:06:27
Comments:
Has any one checked out Tomas Broberg's Dan site lately? He's got some cool soundfiles... some kinda neat obscure stuff.

www.broberg.pp.se/sd_sound.htm

There's a great instrumental jazz tune on there that D&W wrote for a 1978 album by Pete Christlieb and Warne Marsh called "Rapunzel". Nice sax duet near the end. Also, "Medical Science" from the Japanese issue of 11TOW.
And no waiting for these to download!


Name: YGK
..

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 12:02:23
Comments:
St. Al: Kinky probably wouldn't show.

Name: StAl
stalfnzo@seanet.com

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 07:46:54
Comments:
I've said it before. Would anyone get as much of a kick out of seeing Q and Kinky in the same room as I would?

Would it be a scene right out of Fight Club?

or

Would that room become filled with enough hot air to fill the Hindenberg?

Are Kinky and Q one and the same, ala Andy Kaufman/Tony Clifton? If so, who is who?

Which one drives the Ferrari again?

I'm confused.
StAl


Name: jk
jk

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 05:35:35
Comments:
Hey malibubu. What's your email?

jk


Name: tom
new2thelist
Location: new orleans,
Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 05:15:53
Comments:
Altamira - So I am not the only one who heard "dying dancing" in Aja, thanks for the sanity restoration. As for my Rockville memories I remember little of the downtown area - I recall National Geographic had an office there. I was ten when we left Rockville in the spring of 71 for Michigan. We lived in the then rural area between Rockville and Potomac in what quickly (after we left)became sububanized. I was able to return in 93 for a conference in DC and went on a side excursion to find the house and even two neighbor friend's parents (over 20 yrs later) with a side trip to the falls. Although Great Falls has been modernized a bit, it still had that get away otherworldliness about it

BigFan - is the "Michigan" 96 Dan tape one of the better video of the 90's tours? Unfortunately the Dan didn't include New Orleans on any of their recent jaunts

R&R HAll of Fame Suggestion - now that the album is in the can Donald and Walter should spend their time in rotating shifts immediately outside the R&R HoF in the full Pretzel Logic cover concession stand garb. Surely after a week or so of this spectacle, the nominating committee will have to bow to the Cleveland City Council's log of protests and put them on next years ballot.


we will make your mugshots disappear


cheers


Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com

Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 04:12:02
Comments:
Bong, time capsule, SD Katy Lied - man things are rocking in Pittsburgh. I think she should have included one of those towels that they way at Steelers games.

http://www.post-gazette.com:80/columnists/19991209walk.asp


Name: q
@sorry@doublpost

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 20:02:07
Comments:
"As you know, Kinky.."

Name: Q
FLAROOM

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 19:58:47
Comments:
As you Kinky, I couldn't tell you - I haven't heard it... that was #17 ?

Q


Name: Kinky
turning japanese

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 19:48:05
Comments:
Q - Thanks for sharing the photos of "The Making of Aja" box... what a coup! Say, what do you think of the new one?

Name: JWMalibu
Applying the icing...

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 19:34:51
Comments:
Hey All ~ need mailing info from the following:

Doc Kelly
Hank Silvers
Jk
JosieDanFan
JQSJR
Maj C
Midnite Cruiser
Mitch
Q/Flaroom
RixHex56
Ruby Baby
Sociable Hermit
The Stranger

Thanx!

JDubs


Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com
USA
Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 19:03:59
Comments:
Q,
Thanks - I'll look for it after dark tomorrow, as our mail arrives shortly after 5PM. I take it you could watch it then.

Leigh:
Michigan tape - while it says Michigan 01-Jul-96 on the outside it really is a tape of from the Nissan Pavillion, Manassas, VA. on July 21 of the same year. Don't ask why. It is not offical , nor really a bootleg since it a copy direct from the feed to the big TV's they have for the grass section - it is great. A 2CD set was made from the sound portion and that is great too. You can get it from "concert" video sellers and it shows up on ebay a lot.

Making of Aja DVD/VHS - you can probably walk to your nearest store in England and buy a copy of either. Some online sellers (both in GB, I believe) sell it: www.yalplay.com and www.cdeurope.com. These would be the non Japanese subtitle ones. As for more stuff on the DVD - you will have to ask your neighbors because the US edition is not out yet - but has been promised soon - we are all waiting anxiously.

I saw tonight that several online stores in Canada are selling the Japanese VHS tape as well as the Euro ones and DVD - and they say it will play in PAL and NTSC format so Q you must be watching right now as I type. You have to love that Canadian to US conversion on the $.


Name: JWMalibu
Just another fan from LA...

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 18:27:47
Comments:
Q ~ And what a great man he was...

Name: Q
FLAROOM

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 17:00:59
Comments:
Skunk - Happy Birthday ! - but as a great man once said....shut up n'play your guitar.........

"The Making of Aja" on VHS HiFi - here's what your looking for..

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/danman1/aja.JPG

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/danman1/aja1.JPG

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/danman1/aja11.JPG

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/danman1/aja12.JPG

Home at Last..........


PS Big Fan/Krouse - your copy we discussed was overnighted today.

Q


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 16:09:55
Comments:
Tom - Yes, The Nightfly does capture the mood of the era well, and it is quite pleasant musically. I should get it out and listen to it again.

So you lived in Rockville in the late'60s? Then you must remember the old downtown, which was destroyed by a horribly misguided urban renewal project around 1970. Fortunately, the ugly mall has been torn down and Montgomery Avenue has once again been connected to Rockville Pike, although it jogs just beyond the new Regal Theater to pass around the office building that is the last remaining fragment of the mall. Have you ever seen the movie "Lillith," with Warren Beatty and Jean Seberg? It was filmed in Rockville in 1963 and shows the old downtown, Great Falls with the wooden bridges that were destroyed by Hurricane Agnes in 1971, and a jousting tournament (Maryland's state sport; it involves spearing little rings while riding under them on a horse, not knocking people off horses)in Barnesville. Some scenes in the movie were filmed on the street where I was living, as the Warren Beatty character lived in a house on our street. The film company parked their trucks in front of our house, and my older brothers got Mr. Beatty's autograph. They encouraged me to ask for his autograph also, but I was a little reluctant to approach him since I was three years old at the time.

I've always loved Great Falls and used to go there often when I had a car; I'll have to ride my bike out there sometime. Regarding lyrics; I also thought it was "dyin' dancing."

YGK - Good post. I may have misinterpreted your previous post since I was reading so many of them last night.

Clas - Pepperidge Farm makes cookies with regional names - I seem to recall one with "Chesapeake" in the name. I know they make cookies similar to the ones you describe, and they might be called "Maryland cookies." I'll have to check next time I go to the grocery store.



Name: TheStranger
Sad

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 16:02:56
Comments:
Farwell to Joseph Heller, one of the greatest writers of our century.

Name: James
home@last.com

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 14:13:35
Comments:
It's been awhile. The Rock and Roll Holl of Fame issue pulls me out of silence. What a huge pile of crap! The vast majority of the material represented by Hall of Fame artists is complete dreck. They aren't musically qualified to carry W & D's music stands to the gig. Of course I would like the boys to get their recognition but in a way it would be disrespecting the state of their art to associate it with the noise in that hall. Steely Dan transcended the primitive rock population and the reason they don't get their just recognition is that the voters are the envious idiots who couldn't begin to play a Dan chart.

Name: Leigh
kamak1r1ad@aol.com
Location: Cardiff, Wales UK
Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 12:36:30
Comments:
I've seen "for sale" on Auction sites such as E-bay a video entitled "Steely Dan Live in Michegan 1996". Is this an official release that has not filtered over the Atlantic yet or is it some bootleg home video ? Can anyone cast any light on its origins ?
I thouroughly enjoyed "the making of AJA" documentary on UK TV last night. Does anyone know if the DVD release of this programme is an extended version or is it still just one hour long ? (Is there a VHS released version)?
Compliments of the season to all you Dan fans out there. may I compliment you on your exemplary taste in music !!!!


Name: Leigh
kamak1r1ad@aol.com
Location: Cardiff, Wales UK
Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 12:36:09
Comments:
I've seen "for sale" on Auctiob sites such as E-bay a video entitled "Steely Dan Live in Michegan 1996". Is this an official release that has not filtered over the Atlantic yet or is it some bootleg home video ? Can anyone cast any light on its origins ?
I thouroughly enjoyed "the making of AJA" documentary on UK TV last night. Does anyone know if the DVD release of this programme is an extended version or is it still just one hour long ? (Is there a VHS released version)?
Compliments of the season to all you Dan fans out there. may I compliment you on your exemplary taste in music !!!!


Name: o
h

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 11:58:53
Comments:
John Duffy posted this message to the alt.music.steely-dan newsgroup on Saturday, December 11

Anyone listening to Greater London Radio (GLR 94.9, the best station by far in London) this afternoon (Saturday) will have heard the news that NEXT WEEK they will be playing EXCLUSIVELY tracks from the new one. I was the one who kept e-mailing them for more info if you were tuned in (couple of name-checks through the afternoon!). I taped what they said about it.

They have a guy in New York with all the info, who was supposed to be on the phone live on the show, but there was a technical problem. Anyway he will be bringing the new CD back to be played on the show. Of this they were certain.

So tune in if you can from 2:00pm next Saturday. I will of course tape it.

Presumably this is part of a world-wide roll-out of the new one, so if you have a station in your part of the world that plays the Dan then you should tune in over the next few weeks I guess. How about making a list here on the newsgroup of Dan friendly stations? C'mon, post the name and wavelength of your local Steely station.

Regards, John


Name: SoulMonkey168
SoulMonkey168@aol.com
KY
Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 10:32:04
Comments:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY "SKUNK"


IT IS MR. BAXTER'S 51st B-DAY

-SoulMonkey168


Name: San Francisco Knight
steelybubba@netscape.net
Location: London, UK
Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 10:21:56
Comments:
Finally and at long last the UK tv show, Classic Albums, does the right thing looks into the Dan.

A fantastic overview into what went into the making of Aja. I especially enjoyed the recorded Josie jam, solid funk and groove.

Bernard P doing his thing too, as the percussive equivalent of Muhammad Ali.

Also very interesting to hear comment from the UK's own Ian Dury. I have believed for some time that he must have acquired some of his style/professionalism from your own methods. The standard of his band's musicianship is immensely high, although his social commentary is somewhat more 'in yer face' and, shall we say, lacking in cryptic metaphor.

Will there be more UK TV exposure with the forthcoming release? Here's hoping.

Anyone else catch the show?

Laters

SFK


Name: Edd


Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 10:06:32
Comments:
Don't be silly. D&W offered the RHOF some primo 3M digital tape machines for, I'm sure, historical (hysterical?) purposes.

Name: Oker-jay
cleveland's grassy knolls

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 10:03:45
Comments:
as far as the HoF snubbing again, I reiterate my conviction that there's a conspiracy vs. our Heroes being inducted:

Not Enough Relics to place in the Steely Dan booth.
Everyone in that stinking place has old crap (memorabilia, flashy outfits, old guitarists, etc.) strewn all over. I'm certain Don+Walt either dismissed any notion of keeping old instruments & other treasures or had to pawn 'em long ago.....almost nonexistent touring defintely didn't help....they need more time to accrue more STUFF. Being as American as most of us are, they shouldn't have a problem with generating enough SD artifacts in, say, a couple more years......


Name: Tom
braindon'tfunctionthisearly

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 09:13:28
Comments:
In the previous misquoted dan lyrics post

I meant to say "Yasgur's Farm" not "Masguers"
as in Max Yasgur the host of the 69 Woodstock fest

along similar lines, any mid 70's Joni Mitchell fans?

as I am new here, not sure if this has been discussed at nauseum

but like Walter and Donald, Joni had a propensity to utilize studio musicians in her mid seventies jazzier jaunts and even in her pop relm she had Tom Scott and company backing "Court and Spark"

My favorite Joni disc was Heijira, largely from the influence of Jaco Pastorius' other worldly fretless bass playing. It's too bad he never was able to contribute to the Dan's work

As both were living in L.A. and had a similiar love for Jazz, although Joni's developed late, I am sure she and the Dan must have rubbed elbows at sometime, or at least tried to get the studio guns working on their project at the expense of the others

enjoyed the boys toying with a "lost love child" for the hall of fame instatements

 


Name: aja
Back at the dude ranch

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 09:06:18
Comments:
Hutch-I heard that same thing in "Peg"! But the "Hey" interpretation really had me laughing.

ruby baby-someone in my life is being very hurtful to me, but I don't think they're aware of what they're doing. Do you have any Words or advice for me-I want to talk to them with an open, nonjudgmental heart, and have them listen to what I'm saying-hard sometime, you know?


aja


Name: Tom
bergeon@shellus.com
Location: New Orleans,
Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 07:28:38
Comments:
Miss Led Lyrics

Thanks Hutch for the "Peg" "Hey" experience


Another miss led Dan lyric I had was from Black Friday

I took the line "I'll fly down to Muswellbrook"

to be "I'll fly down to Masguers (sp?) Farm"

I thought it was a Woodstock reference to the site of the 69 festival and the protagonist in the song escaping to a hippie commune for the impending fallout. Funny I never could place the reference to Kangaroo's in upstate New York (insider joke?, when it was indeed correctly set in Australia.

we are stardust indeed


any other miss led Dan lyrics?

Gaucho? not only a jealous lover, but he is upset that this is being done in front of their peers in public and at the hilarious clothes and overindulgent fashion sense of the new apple of his partners eye.


Name: Mr. Sam
@ Lyric Central

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 07:10:34
Comments:
Gaucho is about a homosexual love triangle. The 2 main characters in Gaucho are a gay couple. The Gaucho is a new friend of one of the gay men and the other gay guy is jealous. He's afraid his boyfriend will dump him for the Gaucho. It's a funny take on a gay relationship, without the lisp.

Name: Hutch
what'dhesay?

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 07:07:23
Comments:
tom - I have a bass player friend who was in a band a few years ago that did a few Dan songs. He told me that one night during a break between sets someone in the bar came up to him and asked if he could request a song by Steely Dan. My friend asked him what he wanted to hear. The guy sez "Do you know that song Hey"?
The bass player told the guy he'd never heard of a song by Steely Dan called "Hey". He asks the guy to sing a little of it. And the guy goes "Hey, it'll come back to you".
I've certainly had my own mis-hearings of Dan lyrics. I thought, for the longest time, that one of the other lines from Peg was "You'll see it all clear. It's your favorite foreign movie."
And I was sure the mystical sphere Donald is holding in Time Out of Mind was "direct from Moscow".

Name: tom
bergeon@shellus.com
Location: New Orleans,
Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 06:38:18
Comments:
Altamira - you mentioned that The Nightfly was something that didn't hold much of your interest because there wasn't much deeper meaning to it. I'd have to agree on that end that there is less depth than other albums, but I guess I enjoy it less for the deeper meaning and more for the mood in an era with heartfelt although niave optimism and a promising future. You mentioned you were from Rockville, MD. I lived there for three years in the late sixties and would have to say that Great Falls was my Cave of Altamira.

Mistaken lyrics -

I always thought DTMA's bookkeeper's son was poor preacher's son, the intent and meaning are about the same, a quiet humble father's profession contrasted to the rebellious and now wanted by the law fugative son.

and in Aja I misstook "dime dancing" for "dying dancing"

any other experiences of mistaken lyrics ala Dan?


Name: YGK
..

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 04:16:45
Comments:
Altamira: I agree with you re: dress and such....however, what I was writing about previously was not about dress codes at work, it was common sense....please allow me to stretch a little here...
Don't wear a deer costume in a woods filled with hunters and then complain about people shooting at you.

Actually, I think that people should be able to wear/look whatever the hell they want whenever they want, but in certain situations/locations it's just not smart. I wouldn't wear my "Annie Christian was a whore" T-shirt to a local ecumenical church - although I would take perverse pleasure in looking at people's faces. However, that type of controversial/confrontational behaviour is childish and unnecessary....is it better for me to state my 'opinion' to their faces, where a reception/discussion is most likely not going to be intelligent and fruitful, or just ignore/avoid the situation and use my time wisely? I think the answer is obvious. My initial offering regarding this was unique to me....I just wish everyone would use common sense....

ygk


Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, NY
Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 03:45:16
Comments:
Clas: first off it's YGK - you should have no software compliance issues with me, but you are correct in one instance, you can't help me......

ygk


Name: Lars
in the land of ginger-cookies

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 03:09:58
Comments:
Hey Clas - there´s no hole in the middle on Marlyland cookies! You mix them up with those Ballerina´s. Do you also wonder who Thuesday whatever is?

Name: Clas
atelje.lundkvist@swipnet.se

Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:36:50
Comments:
Altamira - you make me a little nervous here. In Sweden we have cookies which name is "Maryland Cookies", they're round with chocolate in the middle. Aren't those made in Maryland?

Edd - what was that? Flamenco?

The Stranger - yeah, in fact, I'm so used to them I'm feeling like a castrated cat.

Midnite - "Clas....New Year's Eve party with Bruce Hornsby at William and Mary (of My Old School fame) Hall in Williamsburg, Virginia. 9pm EST." Thanks for reminding me I'm stuck in this dark hell.

YK2 - was it you who lost your, no, mine, my email address? Look above. If it aint there, I can't help you.

Jason - I was about to respond to you about something... "meanings"... no, I'm sorry, I don't remember.

Dr Mu - thanx. Always interesting. Don't seem to be too different from Sweden.

JULIA! Are you going to Manhattan and you wanne get this information about where to go via email? You don't wanne meet Yg2? It's your loss.

Well, you can get this for free:

Back in -92 I was in the great Manhattan (saw Danko with Fagen). I'm now going to give you the address to a great MovieTheatre:

Stand foot on 33rd street. Point your nose or else things you have availiable for such things, to the East River direction. Start walking. You will soon smell the odour of something. East River?

But that aint the smell from East River! It's the Korean Take Away-shop just in the corner of Second and 33rd. Even if you're hungry, don't think of it.

The streets are quite empty, and suddenly, there! There is the MovieTheatre!

We watched Cape Fear, starring Nick Nolte, de Niro, and that KingKong woman and some other actors. We were the only audience except for a bum who must have been there for months. He knew every line! His lipsynk was great!! But he smelled like, well, urin and shit, green popcorn and dead rats. But it was fun. If you're lucky he'll still be there.

Hi, C


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 21:13:51
Comments:
Miz Ducky - I like your interpretation of Gaucho; it's somewhat similar to mine. But I guess I should elaborate a bit on my take on the song, for the sake of clarity. It seems to me that the narrator's objection to the other person's relationship with the Gaucho isn't because they're gay, but because the guy is tacky! The Gaucho isn't a gay stereotype, he's a silly, embarassing person who dresses badly. I've known gay men and lesbians who have said, regarding friends who were dating someone they found embarassing, something like "I don't care if she/he wants to go out with this person, but I wish she/he wouldn't bring her/him along when we all go out" or "I wish he/she wouldn't bring his/her date to my parties." That's how I've interpreted the line "I don't care what you do at home." But maybe I'm just being too charitable. I've always liked the song and found it rather funny; it's brought to mind some of the weird people my friends have dated that I found rather embarassing (then again, they may have thought the same thing about women I was dating).

Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 20:50:30
Comments:
I'm sorry to be sending multiple posts, but the option that allows one to open a second window to read the posts doesn't seem to be working tonight, and, as I'm responding to more than a week's worth of postings, I find it easier to respond to them right after I read them than to read all of them and then respond.

YGK - Being gay or lesbian (or bi or transgendered, for that matter) is about a whole lot more than whom one goes to bed with. It's a whole cutural identity, like being part of an ethnic group, or like being deaf, which is more than simply not being able to hear - deaf people have their own culture, which we here in DC are perhaps more aware of than folks in other places because of the presence of Gallaudet University. Straight people don't realize how they "flaunt" (I hate that term) their heterosexuality - the ease with which they talk about their spouses or girlfriends/boyfriends, or hold hands with or kiss them in public. Being lesbian or gay involves always carefully guarding what one says to people, always having to use those gender-neutral pronouns and careful select how much to reveal when coworkers ask what one did over the weekend. If we're as completely honest about our lives as straight people can be, we make others uncomfortable and can invite danger into our lives. And there are certain styles of dress within our communities (for there is not one big homogenous gay community) that are similar to styles of dress within other communities, such as the African-style clothing that some African Americans wear, and as long as these do not violate the dress code of where we work, I see no reason why we can't dress or wear our hair as we please. I can dress up when I'm working somewhere dressy, but I'll still have the short hair, trendy little glasses, and messenger-style bag that are currently popular among semi-butch lesbians of my age group in this city.

F# - I found nothing the least bit objectionable in Gaucho, and I have some of the most sensitive homophobia-detecting antennae on the face of the earth. Maybe straight people view it differently? Damn, why did this subject have to come up again? Aren't there any other gay folk on this list? Shit; here I am defending my people again. I'm tired of this.


Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 20:12:06
Comments:
Hey, y'all, it's good to be back; I'd really missed you. My computer was having some difficulty connecting to the 'net, but I had enough time today to spend 45 minutes on hold with tech support at my ISP so they could help me solve the problem. I've spent an enjoyable evening catching up on all the posts from the last week or so.

JWMalibu - Thank you so much for all your hard work on the compilation CD; I'm awaiting it with eager anticipation.

Midnite Cruiser - Good news about the cats about to enter your life. Much as I like Abyssinians, I may not ever have one since I only acquire cats who desperately need a place to live - that's how I ended up with six of them; they needed a new home and had nowhere else to go. But purebred cats are abandoned and abused too, so maybe someday an Abby who desperately needs a home will find me.

RixHex - Good to see you here again. I have finally gotten away from all that anger; I have cut the ties to my emotional baggage and thrown it overboard. I've been in a great mood lately, despite the fact that it's winter (which I hate) and Christmas (which I really hate, since it brings back so many horrible memories) is fast approaching - I'm usually floundering in the pit of despair this time of year. With my new approach to life, I'll be downright ecstatic by the time TAN arrives!

Fezo - I'd like to attend a release party in Richmond, but do we have to go to Hooters? Ick! What about the Flood (or something like that; I'm not sure of the exact name)? The last time I took the train through Richmond, one of the other passengers pointed out this establishment and said that it was the really cool place to go in Richmond.

Clas - What an interesting impression you have of Maryland! It's a fairly politically liberal state, especially in comparison with Virginia, its neighbor to the south, although Maryland has had some shady governors over the years, including former vice president Spiro Agnew (the city I grew up in, Rockville, had a seafood restaurant called Agnew's that was owned by some members of his family). Maryland is sometimes called "American in miniature" since, although it's the fourth smallest state, it has ocean beaches, urban areas, and mountains.

Oleander - Much as I like 11TOW, I never listen to Little Kawai - too sentimental for my taste, although the one time I listened to it I found it pleasant musically.

Susan - Welcome; it's good to have you here. Why do you think SD is homophobic? There is that line, "They say he's a fairy," from Through with Buzz, but I've forgiven them for that since they show such a different attitude toward gay people in Gaucho. They have made only a few oblique references to gay people in interviews, but those have all been tolerant and positive.

To those who mentioned the Nightfly in their lists of favorites - I really don't like this recording much. I bought it on CD a while back to replace the tape I'd lost years ago, and I only listened to it a few times. I find it kind of dull - its meaning can be discerned immediately; there's nothing more to discover there. On the other hand, I absolutely love Kamakiriad; I actually like it better than the SD recordings. I didn't like it all that much when I first bought it, but after many repeated listenings, I have become absolutely fascinated by it - I keep hearing more and more in it every time I hear it. After spending hours listening to it on the excellent stereo of a car I rented a while back, I no longer play it since my little boombox doesn't do it justice. I plan to buy a better stereo soon so I'll have something decent to hear TAN (and the GB compilation CD)on, and then I'll listen to Kama again.


Name: JWMalibu
www.boards.com

Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 17:54:11
Comments:
GB Update ~ It's time to begin collecting mailing addresses. Please check the GB Compilation page to ascertain as to whether I have your address or not...I want to make SURE I have the right information. With my computer problems last month, my e-mail is spread out amongst two computers, so please forgive me if you've given me an address and I didn't annotate it (thanx, YGK!)...

The Band ~ Always loved 'em...remember seeing them at the Hollywood Bowl around the time of "Stage Fright" in '70(?) when I was an impressionable hipster of 15, and they blew me away with their musicality. One very important timbre of The Band's sounds was/is Garth Hudson's Wulitzer organ...that sound is distinctly his (out of the ice skating rink realm, this is...)! He makes that sucker ROCK! Also, I always associate "The Weight" with the film "Easy Rider"...ahhh, the iconography of my youth!


Name: Don
+ Walt

Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 17:40:01
Comments:
find our lyrics @

steelydan.com


Name: Jason
rocktekafx@aol.com
MA USA
Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 17:18:27
Comments:
Anyone out there know where i can find some meanings behind the lyrics of Steely Dan?? Great Band, cool site. thanks

Name: TheStranger
Diana Krall kills me

Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 12:55:37
Comments:
Clas,
The trouble with you Swedes is you have so many sexy, long-legged blondes who look like Tuesday Weld that they no longe impress you. Mail some this way.

Name: Geena
katylied@hotmail.com

Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 11:24:20
Comments:
SD Newsletter: Thank you for the useful information, finally someone answered my question from over a week ago.

David in FLA Room: my e addy is above


Name: SD Newsletter
for those not on the list

Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 10:28:16
Comments:
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IN THIS ISSUE
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- "Two Against Nature" Preorders Begin Jan 1, 2000 !?!
- Me, Myself, and Don&Walt
- Classic Albums Broadcast Date, DVD
- Tracks Contest Winners Announced
- Snubbed Again!
- Happy Holidays

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"TWO AGAINST NATURE" PREORDERS BEGIN JAN 1, 2000 ?!?

Or so they say...

If all goes according to plan, "Two Against Nature" will be available for
preorder January 1, 2000. On that hallelujah day we'll be sending out a
special edition of the Newsletter featuring a contribution from special
guest reporters ;-) We'll also be telling you exactly how to preorder and
provide you with the links to do so -- all assuming, of course, that
electrons can still find their way around in the new 2K world.


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ME, MYSELF, AND DON & WALT

As has already been mentioned in some of the nation's most august
publications, the music of Steely Dan will take pride of place in the
soundtrack of next year's Farrelly Brothers' movie "Me, Myself, and Irene",
starring Jim Carey and Renee Zellweger. Covers of Steely Dan tunes will be
performed by a variety of artists, including Smash Mouth, Ben Folds Five,
Brian Setzer Orchestra, Wilco, Ivy, and Leon Redbone. The movie will be
released in June, and the soundtrack is slated to be available shortly
before the movie's release.

Dr Klamm sez: "kool!"


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CLASSIC ALBUMS BROADCAST DATE, DVD

Early last winter, Steely Dan taped a video segment on the making of "Aja"
for the "Classic Albums" Series (see package blurb on Tomas Broberg's site
at http://www.broberg.pp.se/sd_aja_video.htm).

We have learned that the show will air in the UK *this Sunday, December
12th* on ITV/Channel 3 at 11:00PM.

We have also learned (thanks Alan!) that a DVD version is now available -
and if you have a DVD player, it will play in both European and NTSC
formats. This will probably start showing up at more CD/DVD retail outlets
soon. Distributor is Eagle Rock Entertainment- DVD2009.


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TRACKS CONTEST WINNERS ANNOUNCED

Only two of you got them right! We kid you not. Grand Prize (an autographed
box set) will go to John Moore (also known to some of you as Hank Silvers),
and First Prize (an autographed reissue CD) goes to Andy Metzger (also
known to some of you as the purveyor of an SD, um "rarities" site at
http://steelydan.cjb.net). Congratulations!

But that left us with two more autographed reissue CDs and no one to give
'em to! So we selected two names at random from among Registered Recipients
of this Newsletter (that includes *you*, we hope?) to receive the goods.
Lucky recipients are being contacted now.


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SNUBBED AGAIN

The voters for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame have once again seen fit to
overlook Steely Dan. It seems as though Donald and Walter's vigorous
lobbying during the '97 season (see http://steelydan.com/hof.html) all
went for naught.

But not to worry -- vengeance will be theirs (and ours)! Everybody start
training for D-Day, March 6th, 2000: The Hall Of Fame Induction/Tribunal
For Rhythmic Justice Night!! See http://steelydan.com/hof99.html for
details.


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HAPPY HOLIDAYS

A Safe and Happy Holiday to All ---

We will continue to update the website over the holidays with any hot and
late-breaking news, so keep it dialed to http://steelydan.com.


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Name: DrMu
millenium/schmillenium (1/1/01 not 1/1/00))
Location: didn't the ancient Hebrews use base 8 anyway?,
Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 10:26:55
Comments:
Roy: I think it's the roots (jazz or blues/folk) that people appreciate.

Thanks to those who've come to my rescue.

I much prefer Animals to The Wall, aside for Confortably Numb...perhaps if The Wall were a single album...but since it's not, I would rate it as very overrated, along with All Thing Must Pass.

Most overrated recording: This is easy. The remake of the country song "Wind Beneath My Wings" by Bette Midler...horrible. Someday she'll be rightly remembered as the Ethel Merman of our times.

I noticed in the Sunday Houston Chronicle that the Santana/matchbox20 song is still numero uno.

Santana's resurgence is partly hangon' with the kidz...but the sound is much more like his classic sound circa 1970 and the latin explosion is a critical factor.
I was wondering if the new Dan CD would have those classic Latin rhythms we used to hear sprinkled throughout their first 7 from Do it Again on...? I only hear touches in the solo stuff IGY (reggae), Goodbye Look, Florida Room. If so, the choice of a first single might be a hook filled Latin-influenced number?


Name: KD
yup

Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 10:02:45
Comments:
johnboy:

Dude, I know. Doesn't mean they can't make cosmic American music. Helm was from Arkansar, like Ronnie Hawkins was, I believe.

Does anyone have any of the Hawkins and the Hawks stuff? I have a Rhino comp I picked up last year, awesome stuff. Robertson is great.


Name: fezo
thedawndontrescuemenomore

Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 09:22:41
Comments:
Roy: You are not the only one.

A great Band compilation is "To Kingdom Come". Only two discs so it's not too pricey and includes rarities like their live cover of "Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever" and stellar vocal performances like Danko on "It Makes No Difference"

Floyd's "Animals" is good but it kinda skews on the maudlin side, with Waters using it to consign all humans to the status of barnyard animals. I usually put it own when I want to perpetuate a dark mood.

I prefer Gilmour's guitar work on his first solo album, which Schwinn also mentioned. "So Far Away" is a particular tasty cut.

fezo, with a great coffee buzz going


Name: Roy.Scam
so.tall.like.a.prison.wall

Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 06:41:35
Comments:
Since about 1973, I've suspected that I'm about the only person who would include Steely Dan AND The Band in their three favorite groups. The contrasts seem too deep to fall into the same demographic: country boys vs city boys; raunchy, spontaneous traditionalists vs jazzy, cynical perfectionists; a group that had been on the road since before dirt and stuck together like glue vs a group that hated the road and had a turnover rate like the Florida Marlins. Maybe there's some of each in everybody. Apparently Libby Titus felt some connection to both. Anyway, it's nice to see so many good words about The Band on this guestbook. If you don't know what the big deal is (a lot of people didn't), watch The Last Waltz or listen to "Ophelia". They turned mandolins, tubas, and accordians into high art; and their musicianship was equal to an SD all star session man meeting. [Well, Okay, maybe Levon was no Jim Keltner on the drums.] But Garth Hudson's sax work was as good as any. Just MHO. God Bless Rihard Manuel and Rick Danko.

RS


Name: johnboy
there's no way out of here

Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 02:34:03
Comments:
KD: The Band was from Canada. Levon Helm was from somewhere in the Southern US. The rest of them were Canadians.

Midnite Cruiser: So you're the person who bought the other copy of the Arc Angels cd..... why nobody else??

There's a second newsletter?? I got the 1st one and that was it...



Name: Schwinn
extravagancia

Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 02:02:24
Comments:
Soul Monkey: Dittos on Animals. The great, pink, pig album. If you don't own it, buy it. It is the prelude to "The Wall" and includes some of the earliest attempts at human voice / animal voice synthesis.


Only Your Dog Knows for Sure,

SeMb


PMS: "Cry in the Streets", Gilmour's 1st solo work, ain't no slouch either..."


Name: SoulMonkey168
SoulMonkey168@aol.comKY
KY
Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 23:53:00
Comments:
David in the Florida Room: to bad bud I sympathize

Looking forward to the trip to NYC if I'm invited I'll pack up the gear and head up. Just thought I'd chime in with my own list of album of the century. I have an extensive collection and listen to music all day all night. My job allows me to do this, how wonderful. My list is not actually what I consider the best 20 albums of the century but my favorite albums. If you don't own the following, you're sorely missing out.I have to exclude Dan albums of course cus I wouldn't have a list. I think you the reader can relate. Here's my 20 favorite in no particular order:


1. ANIMALS-Pink Floyd-Gilmours best guitar work.

2. FOREVER CHANGES-Love-60's psych but beautiful

3. ALL THINGS MUST PASS-George Harrison-nice sign post for
the 70's

4. REVOLVER-Beatles-need I say more?

5. SOMETHING/ANYTHING-Todd Rundgren-superb-absolute must

6. TYRANNY & MUTATION-BlueOysterCult-down right evil-not
for everyone.
7. EXILE ON MAIN ST-Rolling Stones-best flat out pure
rock album ever made-all hail Chuck Berry!

8. LOW-David Bowie-this is F'N great-Ambient/Disco/Eno

9. FULL-CUSTOM GOSPEL SOUNDS ACCORDING TO: RevHortonHeat:
Psychobilly from hell.

10. JOHN WESLEY HARDING-Bob Dylan-what else do you need?

11. LET IT BE-The Replacements-great punk

12. JACK JOHNSON-Miles Davis-bad,bad fusion. one note-SHIVERS

13. TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT-Neil Young-very convincing

14. STARLESS AND BIBLE BLACK-King Crimson-Fripp is sick

15. THE LAMB LIES DOWN ON BROADWAY-Genesis-best prog rock?

16. LIVE AT THE FILLMORE-Allman Bros.-lots of licks-WOW!

17. ELECTRIC LADYLAND-Jimi Hendrix-chibachiba mood. great

18. CLUTCH-Clutch-spaced out heavy fun metal.

19. MAGGOT BRAIN-Funkadelic-cool grooves just jammin

20. COURT AND SPARK-Joni Mitchell-good good songs.


That's it. My 20 faves. I bid you Goodnite. Have fun in Dandom

---------SoulMonkey168

12. MI


Name: KD
yo

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 22:22:10
Comments:
just to be filthy asses in the face of the nice people at Steely Dan.com Inc., we should list who didn't (and still hasn't) gotten the newsletter.

Haven't gotten mine yet.

Ok, maybe we shouldn't.

onhoops.com


Name: Hank Silvers
hanksilvers@dog.com

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 21:57:48
Comments:
aja, Ruby, KD: Thanks! Looking forward to the box set. For that matter, I'm really looking forward to 2vN.

Andy: Good on you, mate.

DrMu: I didn't receive the second newsletter from SD Central, either, but KD forwarded his copy to me and I've sent it on to you. One way or another it'll get to everyone.


Name: David in the Florida Room
dmoore113@aol.com

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 20:46:06
Comments:
HELP !
I seem to have had some kind of crash 'n burn ...lost all of my addresses! Anyone who knows me,please e-mail me so i can rebuild my address book :( I'm not joking.
By the way ...thanks for the Plug Edd. Glad someone liked it!

David


Name: DrMu
jml2621@acs.tamu.edu
Location: inapanic,
Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 19:27:53
Comments:
Damn, the 2nd edition of the SD newletter has still not arrived. The 1st one was received safely. Why is it that the junk e-mail always males it through...and I just purged my in box also. Anyone kind enough to forward me the SDNL2 to the address above would be most appreciated.

Hey, I've got a real gulity pleasure song...the saccharine Marty Balin ballad "With your Love" by Jefferson Starship (from Spitfire I think, but I don't nor ever will possess it - not for 1 song) His vocals are in good shape here and the guitar is really nice throughout the song with nice interplay with the bass. No way though that this pop fluff should work, but it does for me. Sure beats the hell our of "Miracles."


Name: Q
FLAROOM

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 19:12:20
Comments:
Since we're doin' dog pictures , I'll have mine up soon...... My Beagles - 2 Blue Tick and one Roman nosed female
"Maglet of VIllage Glen"(AKC name) aka Maggie,baggy,baggles,maggles,turbodog,supernatural genetic specimen.
Donald - The Big D - named after the man himself , aka Don Don , Mr. Don......he actually has poses that give him that real DF look of divine knowledge. And then there's "Aja", a beagle we picked up through the local "Beagle Rescue Society". She was "abused by teenagers in JAX,FL" however that is defined - but I think we got her young enough to overcome that and with the other 2 dogs and what has now become a pack psychology among the three ,They are a scream.

An Ode To Man's Best Friend,

Q


Name: Miz Ducky
Dang the Waldorf, and their salads too

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 18:26:26
Comments:
YGK: Vhat, you mean to tell me you haven't read Our Heroes' missive on how to deal once and for all with the Hall of Fame's continued intransigence?!? Why, hie thee at once to http://www.steelydan.com/hof99.html and read the whole sordid story!!!

/Miz Ducky
who never could figure out what insane person thought apples and walnuts in mayonnaise constituted a "salad" ... musta been the same meshugenah who decided to put marshmallows and fruit salad in lime jello ...


Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 18:19:39
Comments:
Ruby Baby....yes, Black Lab had a very good album out about '97 or '98....I saw them play at a club just outside of town here in DANville....if you'd like to see a few pics I took that night have a peek at:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6974/BlackLab.html

"a million miles away..."


Name: YGK
..

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 16:58:08
Comments:
Jeez: "I'll be" = "I'll bet" - both times

Name: YGK
you mean ".." doesn't work?

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 16:56:55
Comments:
KD: do you know that napster.com is being sued for piracy by the record industry, if not NARAS itself? Say what you will about the music biz, but a company openly ignoring copyrights is one I wouldn't support....and the jig isn't up on them yet....my $.02

I can be reached through rep@huntergallery.com ....
depending on real numbers, I'll be with a small amount of creative coordination, I'll be we could arrange a fun week/weekend....

however, the resolve must be there to make it happen right....! And if we're lucky, I could probably book a tour of some homeless people....don't believe everything Rudy says.

MizDucky: wazzat on the Waldorf? an assault? it's just a nice little hotel....

ygk


Name: KD
heheh

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 15:57:40
Comments:
rb: I know, I'm just kidding about the newsletter. It's just a nice joke between me and the roomie.

I even sent off a terse email to the website, which brought back a very nice and prompt reply-but no newsletter, yet.

Listened to my gold MFSL cd of 'Aja' three times today, very loud. Amazing. Perfect music.

Is anyone else using this:

www.napster.com

...a kind of hybrid browser/FTP thing to share mp3s on. It's awesome. I finally got that Record Plant, 1974 SD show, I had the Memphis CD, but this thing just saved me 30 bucks.

Picked up 'Seven Steps to Heaven', Miles' near bebop-finale, circa 1963.


Name: ruby baby
rebelrebel

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 14:55:57
Comments:
KD: As my dad used to say to me, "Relax, Ajax!" I just got my newsletter yesterday. Apparently, they don't all go out at once.

Hank Silvers: Whoa! What kind of wharped but razor sharp mind do you have? I figure that's what it takes to be able to match those photos with the right song title. Congrats!

MidniteC: Something/Anything is one of my favorite 70s albums. I didn't expect anyone else to mention it, even you. I had a couple of favorite Bowie albums and I loved The Who's "Tommy." Of course, no body's mentioned those, either. But my all time fav is Countdown To Ecstacy. It beats everything else by miles.

As for the 90s, did the Black Labs put out an album?

rb


Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 14:09:43
Comments:
I'm sorry, I'm confused. All of this talk about the Making of Aja DVD/VHS tape being released in the USA - I don't buy it - at least not yet. Certainly some of my friends who dabble in foreign pornography have more experience, since converting video tapes from one format to another is big business, and is always done under the guise of being for businesses that operate globally and want their product tape or training tape converted for their overseas offices.
Well I will tell you what I do know:
VHS Tapes - there are three main formats PAL (Europe) SECAM (Asia) and NTSC (North America)
A nice summary can be found here:
http://www.alkenmrs.com/video/standards.html

Some very top of the line VCR players can play more than one format - and even record them - but that is a real anomaly. Plus you need a TV that excepts the different lines per inch, etc. or a converter in line to watch on a US TV.
All of the VCR tapes available so far for the Making of Asia are coming from Japan and are in SECAM format - I'm sorry Q but you will not be able to watch it without getting it converted. It will look like you are trying to watch a scrambled cable station. This includes the tapes that were for sale at CDNow.com and the one for that was for sale on ebay.
This Japanese version is available now at www.cdeurope.com - They will convert it from SECAM to either PAL or NTSC for an additional $15 which is a little less than you will pay around here.

DVD:

Well who knows - but I don't think it was whoever gave the info to the SD Newsletter.

First the world has been broken down to 6 regions - none are compatible with each other. There is a master region (0) that plays on all, but I've never seen one. a great link on the subject is here:
http://www.unik.no/~robert/hifi/dvd/world.html

I think the person who gave the info was confused. All players sold in this country only (unless it has change very recently) only play NTSC format - some Euro players play both.

You will notice that when www.yalplay.com lists the DVD for sale they specifically state that it is for region 2 only.

Bottom line - I think it will still be awhile before a US playable (on a commercial scale) version of this comes out.

MH- I will be there in NYC in February - sounds great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - although I would vote for the first weekend in March - after the 29th - because I would not count on pre release copy and I'd hate to get together and only have live bootlegs to listen to.


Name: Edd


Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 13:12:38
Comments:
Hey!

While we all chomp at the bit waiting for TVN, might I suggest you have a listen to "our own" David in The Florida Room's CD "Clockdrive World"??????

My copy arrived in today's mail, and it's already been thru the player twice. A little poignant ("A Girl Like You", dedicated to his wife), a little humorous ("On The Beach", you have to see him perform to truly understand).

www.davidmooremusic.com

Go ahead. Buy a copy. He's a genuine nice guy.


Name: Q
@doublepostingagain

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 12:33:03
Comments:
NYC seems the place for the pre-release party......may I attend ?

I promise I'll leave my internet personality at home..........


Q


Name: Q
WOW???

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 12:30:42
Comments:
WOW - that's what I said........and declined.

If you heard I bought it you, you heard wrong(besides the fact that the number was NEVER $30,000 - it was $25000- some of which was to go to charity)

But it is a groovy kit, used on a lot of important Dan tunes....if you listen to a certain fine groove drummer , who is a very nice guy.

My how things get around.......

Q


Name: Mayor Rudy
Welcome GB`ers Release Party

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 12:03:05
Comments:

I welcome the Dan Fans to The City for the release party. N.Y. is the hippest most cosmopolitan city in the world. The streets will be clean of urine and feces, and thats a promise.New York spends 800 million a year for people who by their own choice have abused alcohol, drugs. I welcome you and hope you spend lots of money which help us defray the costs of our social programs. I LOVE N.Y.

Name: Calling YGK
information please

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 12:01:26
Comments:
YGK - where can someone e-mail you?

Name: Miz Ducky
New Yawk, New Yawk

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 10:08:52
Comments:
YGK: Yeah, it's not Vegas, and the weather is still kinda sucky in the city that time of year, but ... man, the idea of maxxing it in Manhattan for a release party does sound really tempting. I already owned as how I'm feeling nostalgic for the land of my youth ... and between some bargain airfares and creative couch-surfing I might be able to make a go of it. 'Twould be great fun to go stomping on the Avenue with some genuine Dannites! Or to check out Le Bar Bat, to which I've never been.

And also, those of us who are really hard-core could stay over until March 6th and help with the amphibious assault on the Waldorf Astoria. I can by no stretch of the imagination pass as a runway model (unemployed or otherwise), but I can sure think of some, er, distracting things to do with a tin-ful of Swedish Ginger Cookies until the assault forces arrive.

/the fickle Miz Ducky
ever willing to be a Canard

P.S. Glad you like my sensa humah ... good thing, too, because it's the only one I've got


Name: More Food for Thought
holierthanthough.com

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 08:41:10
Comments:
Of course, moral pontificating under an anonymous handle is an annoying trait in and of itself

Name: Somber Texan
Cactus@home

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 08:30:25
Comments:
Re: concerts...
CSN&Y will be in Austin for upwards of $100-200 per ticket. Fuck them. Let the yuppies at Dell computers support that shit.

I wanted to go see Dylan who was with Paul Simon...$60-75 for nose-bleed. And the concert apparently sucked. Fuck them, too. Thank god there are still venues in Austin that will work with the artist to keep the price reasonable. Otherwise, I'll boycott all shows over $35. I never cared much for Pearl Jam but at least they had some integrity where ticket prices were concerned.

Course now I will be flying to the Gorge this summer to see our boys, but this is beside the point.

Sincerely:
Somber


Name: WOW
...

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 08:16:43
Comments:
Q- $30,000 for A DRUM KIT????

Name: Food
For Thought

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 07:42:52
Comments:
KD,

Being drunk is not something you should be proud of.

I remember high school kids thinking it was cool to be drunk and needed to tell whomever would listen.

If you have a drinking problem, then only you can do something about it and only when you're ready.

Otherwise telling us you are drunk only makes you sound like an idiot.

Just food for thought.


Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, NY
Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 06:24:54
Comments:
I want to throw out an idea for TNO. How about a NYC Danvention for a 2vN Listening/Release Party February 29 OR February 26, if we wanted to make the advanced weekend?

February 29 is a Tuesday - an odd day for a party, which, in one argument would make sense for Dan Fans, being odd and all, and be good for hotel room rates, but bad for scheduling. (New Yorkers commonly go out during the week, due to overcrowding on weekends)

If we went with February 26, I'm sure that our connections could procure us with an advanced copy, if we don't already have it by other means. We could schedule a party at LBB or some other location based on numbers.

What do you guys think?
I know it's not Vegas but what the hey?

ygk


Name: Danka
and i thank you

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 04:10:06
Comments:
A drunkard's dream if I ever did see one.

Name: KD
fuck I'm drunkl
Location: onhoops.com,
Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 01:09:26
Comments:
Soc and Hoops:

I;m sorry, I'm done, but it;s nice to know of AWESOME Chicago people out there.

I love my hometown.

Love it.

Fuck

KD


Name: There are bands and
there was....

Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 00:05:43
Comments:
The Band.

Name: hoops
you know

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 22:46:35
Comments:
Sociable Herm: Sorry to sound so Mom like...peace

Name: DrMu
walkin

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 21:05:08
Comments:
YGK: Bud Powell graces the version in our cabinet...Dolphy, Ted Curson and Dannie Richmond really give Prayer for Passive Resistance a kick, then some real communication expecially towards the end.

MC: We got back a couple of hours ago from the Green Mile. Intense! Certainly this and Shawshank Redemption are the 2 best adaptations of Stephen King novels. The Green Mile is visually stunning and the most human of the King adaptations aside Shawswank. Performances by David Morse and Michael Jeter were riveting...Jeter's cajun should be competitive for an Oscar. Hanks was very solid. my only beef was the Alabama accent laid on by Hanks and Morse. That prison is only a few miles from Baton Rouge - no one in that area pronounce "John" as if it had 2 syllables! Patricia Clarkson has the accent down, but then she's from the West Bank (across the Mississippi River from New Orleans). Having said that, this is the best movie I've seen since LA Confidential which also featured James Cromwell of Babe fame (which is one of my recent faves also).


Name: MC again
sameasiteverwas

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 19:54:03
Comments:
I wanted to add for my favorites of the 80's:

Sting/Dream of the Blue Turtles.


Name: Midnite Cruiser
one last post before I call it a night

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 19:29:21
Comments:
I saw one of the 10 best films I've ever seen in my life tonight.

My wife and I had read Stephen King's "The Green Mile" a few years ago and had heard it was going to be made into a movie for the holiday release season this year. This was one of my favorite works of fiction and the movie was really true to the book. From the same guy who directed "The Shawshank Redemption" (from the Stephen King short story) comes a different type of prison movie with a supernatural angle that will touch your heart and make you think. This movie has the best casting, script and story of any I've seen in a long time. Everyone in it really made their part come to life and the visuals were so close to what I pictured in my mind as I read the book that it was kinda spooky.
If you enjoy a good movie and want to see something different than the usual fodder that passes for entertainment, go see The Green Mile....you will *not* be sorry!

MC


Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 19:21:10
Comments:
Clas....New Year's Eve party with Bruce Hornsby at William and Mary (of My Old School fame) Hall in Williamsburg, Virginia. 9pm EST.

Also partying in the New Year will be James Taylor in Raleigh, NC (he's from Carrboro, just a few miles away....jOkEr knows it well)....Athenaeum and guests party in the New Year in Greensboro, NC.

other good shows in the area in December & January:
Doc Watson...Kenny Wayne Shepherd...George Jones...Southern Culture On The Skids...Phish...Squirrel Nut Zippers...Cravin'Melon...Billy Joel...CSN&Y...Al Jarreau...Temptations & the Four Tops...and George Carlin for a little comic relief.


Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, NY
Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 19:16:09
Comments:
Miz Ducky: you're welcome - truly my pleasure, but sheesh! you're a scream! Vaht-tan-art-i-cle - hilarious! with your sense of humor, please let me know when you're in town...

Dr Mu: friend of mine had the Antibes version with Bud, but I only found one w/out. BIG diff...what a difference a Bud (or bud) makes...
I like listening to it for breakfast, and I don't think you have a little mind!

Aja: Grand Prize of what?....

ygk - bon weekend


Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 19:13:00
Comments:
Favorite Album of the Year: Santana's Supernatural

Favorite Song of the Year: Kenny Wayne Shepherd's/Blue on Black & DMB/Crush (not sure when the single came out)

Favorites per decade:

90's --- Dave Matthews Band/Crash...Athenaeum's debut....Arc Angels/only one they did

80's --- SRV/In Step, best song of the decade was "Rivera Paradise"...Steely Dan/Gaucho...Eric Johnson/Tones

70's --- Steely Dan/Can't Buy A Thrill & Aja...Todd Rundgren/Something-Anything....Eagles/Hotel California...Doobies/Minute by Minute

60's --- Beatles/Let It Be & Abbey Road...Led Zeppelin/II...Rolling Stones/any & all.

30's, 40's & 50's --- Robert Johnson/anything...Glenn Miller/anything...nothing else is coming to mind at the moment.


Name: Sociable Hermit
Walter

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 18:39:59
Comments:

Hoops: I know he had bile duct cancer. I was referring to the time before that was discovered, when he WAS in line, and he WAS offered to move, and he turned it down.

Just to clarify.

Later,

Herm


Name: Q
sorry double post.but just got back

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 17:58:46
Comments:
New SD Newsletter portends a great future !
If the Dan continue directly interacting with the fans via this forum at their current pace of "responsiveness" and "accessability" on then we've got a lot to look forward to !

Talk about a breath of fresh air...............


Name: Q
just got back

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 17:53:22
Comments:
Hey, "Guess Who", have you been using my records !

Name: KD
arr
Location: onhoops.com,
Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 17:40:18
Comments:
Had to get the new SD newsletter from my roomie, they haven't sent mine yet.

I guess I'm not a "big enough fan" for their database.


Name: Miz Ducky
Real-life "Snowbound"????

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 17:14:18
Comments:
Okay, friends, I stumbled onto this item and couldn't resist sharing it (I dunno if they'll change the article at this URL in a day or so, but right now it's good to go):

http://www.pathfinder.com/fortune/business_life/road_warrior/

/Miz Ducky
needing a hot toddy after reading about all that ice


Name: aja
You go!

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 17:07:43
Comments:
Hank Silvers-congrats on being the Grand Prize winner! And Andy, you deserve your prize for those delicious "rarities"!


Have a good weekend, all!


aja


Name: Mr. Stewart
trycosta@hotmail.com

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 15:39:33
Comments:
Great memories of The Band's "To Kingdom Come," especially cuts like "Acadian Driftwood," "Lost John," "2%Pantomime," and "Saga of Depote Rouge," while cruising the Seward Highway in Alaska, mammoth mountains all around, Turnagain Arm to the right, a little of the Congressional Remedy from the Matanuska Valley tickling the frontal lobe. Everything seemed fine as these elements came together. Rick Danko helped leave a legacy, The Band's music made Alaskan winters more tolerable.

Another true artist, gone.
Mr. Stewart


Name: NYC Fan
You're joking, right?

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 14:00:36
Comments:
Susan- Get a clue sweetheart. YGK is right. If you don't know where to go, any big city sucks. You're way off on this one! Ask Mayor Rudy, he lives in Altoona Pa. What a shmuck.

Name: SoulMonkey16&8
SoulMOnkey168@aol.com

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 13:55:03
Comments:
LONG LIVE DANKO
R.I.P.



Name: tom
bergeon@shellus.com

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 13:54:39
Comments:
new here so excuse my feeble attempts at hello

Danko - definitely a big loss. The Band really were one of the first bands to go back to a simpler roots type R&R. CCR in a slightly different way. Like the Dan, the Band's music has a timelessness about it and an intelligent core.

Susan - funny you should mention Kansas. Having grew up in the heartland (Michigan) in the 70's I even witnessed Kansas in their "hay" day. I now live down in New Orleans and despite all the great club musicians here I sometimes attend these free summer concerts (outdoor tent) outside a local casino to see how entertaining washed up musicians can be. This summer I sat through about 15 minutes or so of Jan and Dean, Peter Noon of Hermin's Hermits and Kansas. Interesting way to "start" an evening. Deacon BLues indeed


Name: DrMu
no one sweeter

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 13:53:57
Comments:
Walter Payton demonstrated the same class in dying despite terrible suffering that he did in living. It does not surprise me that he would refuse preferential treatment

Name: KD
any day now

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 13:48:47
Comments:
I'm listening to "I Shall Be Released" from the Last Waltz. This is unconscionably sad and I hope, at the very least, his early passing will spark a flame of interest in The Band's wonderful music. They were the most American band I've heard in the last 30 years, quietly creating one effortless masterpiece after another.

I am deeply saddened by his passing and hope it does some good somehow. It has been a rough year. Very rough. Thinking of all the others we've lost this year is making it worse, but they deserve my attention.

go in peace, Rick, God bless.


Name: Miz Ducky
Live from New York

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 13:16:40
Comments:
Oh yeah -- YGK, thanks for the wonderfully detailed report on the Paul Griffin benefit! Next time I'm in New York visiting my brother or whomever, I will definitely look you up to get the lowdown on what's shaking where!

/Miz Ducky
finding it hard to believe she's actually feeling a twinge of homesickness for the East Coast -- but then, Seattle's a little hard to take this time o' year


Name: Susan
raining on a rainy day

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 13:16:18
Comments:
I hate to be disrespectful, but I never understood what the big deal about the Band was. They don't really strike me as being outstanding. Maybe its just before my time.

Name: hoops
hoops@interaccess.com

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 13:08:32
Comments:
Re: Rick Danko; Fagen has cited The Band as an influence and of course, Fagen's wife Libby Titus was no doubt close to Danko given she was Band-mate Levon Helm's wife. So I am certain we extend our condolences.

Socialable Hermit: Sweetness definitley had class to say the least (how understated on my part); I'm certain when he WAS in line for a liver transplant, he would have waited his turn without accepting any celeb express treatment. But a reason he did not get a liver trasnplant was that he also developed bile duct cancer about 6 months before he died and that made him inelligible for the transplant lists.


Name: JWMalibu
Living with Hep C

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 12:52:47
Comments:
Liver transplants current run about 500k...hopefully they'll find a real cure before mine (and many, many others) fails!

Name: Lonely Bill
@ The White House

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 12:37:50
Comments:

I`VE been a little down lately with my wife on the road in New York state and my Vice Prez pounding the pavement. The time is passing so fast only 11 months to go, seems like only yesterday that i made thew first decision of my controversial Presidentcy "don`t ask don`t tell" Gays in the military.I want my legacy to stand for something other than scandals and womanizing. The toughest test will be next week when I try to work out an agreement with the Syrians and the Israeli`s, by golly talk about diplomac, President Assad is a brutal Dictator and Israel hates to give up land which isn`t hers. I`LL try my best and my wife will too,I know she will tell the New York City Jewish Community just how loyal we are to Israel.

Name: Miz Ducky
mizducky@drizzle.com

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 12:32:42
Comments:
jOkeR: Rick Danko was one of the founding members of The Band (i.e. "Music from Big Pink", "The Last Waltz," etc. etc.) Read a little more at:

http://www.foxnews.com/fn99/entertainment/fn_00000062.htm


Name: jOkeR
hokey-dokey

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 12:27:36
Comments:
SUSAN: a lot of people think a HOKIE is another name for a castrated turkey (what I thought for a while), but I think that was a rumor perpetuated by a 'Hoo.

The term Hokie was actually coined by the dude who wrote the fight song and needed something to rhyme with VPI. "Hokie, hokie, Hokie, Hi.....hey, that's pretty good."

So it means nothing really, other than a rabid fan of Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University.

Pardon my blazing ignorance but who was Rick Danko.....?


Name: Sociable Hermit
just class

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 12:24:22
Comments:

DrMu: After Walter Payton passed away, a story came out that on more than a few occasions, he was asked if he would like to slide higher on the list of people waiting for a liver transplant, but each time he refused. So, sadly, money and fame do give you more opportunities. Walter just had the class to say no and wait it out. Unfortunately, he couldn't wait long enough.

I, personally, do not know how a person could live with him/herself knowing that they jumped ahead of other people who are also waiting for the same chance you are. What if you found out that a person you skipped over died waiting. That would be a horrible reality. Hopefully, I will never find out firsthand how to cope with such a thing.

Later,

Herm



Name: The truth
will set you free

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 12:06:38
Comments:
hey now, we're going to be able to pre-order 2vN starting on Jan. 1, check out the official site.

Name: YGK
..

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 11:59:38
Comments:
......with the passing of Rick Danko, I offer the lyrics to what only a Dan Fan might be able to hear when listening to "Gaucho" at this very moment, which seems to apply....:
"Drive West on Sunset to the Sea
turn that jungle music down
just until we're out of town....
this is just no one night stand
it's a real occasion...
close your eyes and you'll be there
its everything they say
the end of a perfect day
distant lights from across the bay
Babylon Sisters Shake it....

So Fine, so young....
tell me I'm the only one..........


Name: Roy.Scam
feeling.jupiter.hollow

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 11:23:26
Comments:
St.Al, fezo:
This is the first I heard of the death of Rick Danko. Very sad. He turned 56 two days ago. What happened? His work on songs like "Life Is a Carnival" will cheer me up as long as I'm alive.

RS


Name: fezo
helplesshelplesshelpless

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 11:13:41
Comments:
i'm going to watch "The Last Waltz" tonight in Rick's honor. he was an amazing musician and singer.

damn


Name: DrMu
I am not James Worthy

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 10:46:17
Comments:
YGK: Antibes is incredible! I just can't get through all of it in one sitting. Too much for this little mind.

Clas: Oleander can address this much better than I can - I'm not an MD not do I play one on TV. Livers are not for sale, but the operation is quite expensive. Candidates for organ transplants have to meet medical criteria for establishing priority. Walter Payton former star (running back) of the Chicago Bears and Hall of Famer passed away recently when he developed bile duct cancer waiting for a liver transplant...$$ and fame are no criteria for moving to the front of the line. There is greater sensitivty after Mickey Mantle received a liver transplant despite a history of alcohol and cancer.

I would assume that studio musician often don't carry insurance, therefore some need to partially of fully finance the operation and/or provide support when one is too ill to work. I just wish Paul Griffin the best of good luck...glad to hear he was on-stage. We need more organ donors...I believe that one can register in many states including Texas when one's driver's license is renewed.


Name: StAl
stalfnzo@seanet.com

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 10:27:50
Comments:
Sadness...

R.I.P. Rick Danko


Name: SoulMonkey16&8
SoulMonkey168@aol.com

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 09:52:50
Comments:
Mary, no direspect, but you have no idea about the dan and I have all the idea about the Goo-Goo Dolls. Why are we even talking about this. If you feel the need to discuss WB/DF vs The Goo-Goo Dolls more power to you but what is the point. When I was a kid I liked KISS. I grew up. There is only one. that is the MAGNIFICENT ONE THE ONLY ONE> MR STEELY DAN and whatev v v v ah! Just ask Pops, I'm sure he's told you.

Name: Susan
susan.credit@comdial.com

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 08:51:29
Comments:
Seriously, I'll be up there in a couple of months to visit family. If you get a moment and would like to e-mail me the names of a couple of places that are cool and open late, than I would be most appreciative.

Name: YGK
..

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 08:49:35
Comments:
Susan: you just didn't know where to go....and if you want to know, let me know next time you're in town....I'd be glad to tell you where to go....*wink*

ygk


Name: Susan
disappointed with NYC

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 08:42:11
Comments:
I went to New York last year and let me tell you, that city definitely sleeps.

Name: YGK
..
Location: New Disney,
Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 08:38:21
Comments:
we ARE! but at least it's good to know where the tourists are.....

Name: Susan
interesting

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 08:28:01
Comments:
I thought New Yorkers were irritated by the "Disneyfication" of Times Square and the big brother-like ban on pornography.

Name: YGK
..

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 08:26:20
Comments:
Faves:
60s:
Mingus - The Antibes Sessions w/Bud Powell
Miles Davis - My Funny Valentine

70s:
Steely Dan - Aja
Jackson Browne - The Pretender
Doobie Brothers - What were once Vices are now Habits & The Captain and Me
Herbie Hancock - Headhunters & Mr. Hands

80s:
Steely Dan - Gaucho
Donald Fagen - Nightfly
Steve Tibbets - Safe Journey
Steve Reich - Music for 18 Musicians
Pat Matheny Group - Offramp
Keith Jarrett - Bremen & Lausanne

90s:
....still compiling....


Name: Mayor Rudy
Shit on the street.........Go to jail

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 08:25:30
Comments:
I wish you all a Happy Holiday season . I would like to welcome you to "The City " , We hope you enjoy our sites, shopping and great cuisine. New Yorkers take pride in how the City`s image has has changed for the better. The media is on a mission to tarnish my reputation in regards to the "Homeless Issue ". The law is clear for people with homes and those unfortunate ones that don`t have a residence, if you use city property as a restroom you will be arrested. I`M sure the knee jerk reaction will be that ``i`m mean spirited, but just ask New Yorkers if things are better today?

Name: Susan
k
va
Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 08:01:26
Comments:
I'm from Southwest Virginia and I still have to ask: Where did they get the name Hokie and WHY? At Tech, we've got Hokies and at UVA we've got Wahoos. It sounds like this state is saturated in alcohol.

Name: tom
bergeon@shellus.com
Location: New Orleans,
Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 07:36:37
Comments:
yet another picks for fave flave albums of the decades

90's Liz Phair whitechocolatespaceegg,
Jeff Buckley - Grace, REM (lean decade)
80's Talking Heads - Remain in Light, Dylan - Oh Mercy,
King Crimson - Beat, The Nightfly, Suzanne Vega's 1st
Elvis Costello - Imperial Bedroom
70's Genesis The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, Royal Scam, Aja
Yes Going For the One, Joni Mitchell - Hejira
John Cale - Fear, Eno - Before and After Science
60's Beatles Revolver, Stones Beggars Banquet
Velvet Underground, Mingus, Dylan - Blonde On Blonde
50's Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf, Miles
40's Muddy Waters, Mississippi John Hurt
30's Robert Johnson

worst 70's cheezola song "Car Wash"



Name: jOker, the
on a SUGAR buzz

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 07:31:45
Comments:
hullo all. been stuck in the Sugar Bowl hype for quite a bit and couldn't pry myself loose. FEZ0, Midnite Croozer, et al. should know what that's all about, nein?

ST.AL has got it right. as i age it's personally getting tougher to keep listening to fresh material and not get cynical about it - true, there's a LOT of crrrrrrap out there but there HAS been some real gems this decade. unfortunately all I can add to his list is {of course) Stereolab, the most excitingly imaginative European band this decade has produced IMHO. better than cranberries, cardigans & oasis all smooshed together.....

YGK: good quote. One of my faves is when Paul was tasting something horrendous with Dave getting ready to go to commercial......

DAVE: "How is it Paul?"
PAUL: "A little chilly..."
DAVE: (under his breath)"I could go for a little chili myself..."

(it's more of a Letterman quote, i know.....]

all together now..............G O H O K I E S !!!


Name: F#maj9
panchromatically speaking

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 07:05:24
Comments:
all of the above: Uncle Meat, Frank Zappa et al

happy holidays to all
F


Name: Nelson Ho
radio_promo@a52freeride.com
Location: Sparks, NV US
Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 07:02:39
Comments:
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Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, NY
Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 07:00:30
Comments:
....one of the humorous lines from Paul Schaefer, when Mary Wilson was walking off stage (not a direct quote):
"she's beautiful, looking better than ever....Mary you don't know how many times I looked at your picture, holding it with one hand...."

Name: Tom
bergeon@shellus.com
Location: New Orleans,
Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 06:35:41
Comments:
Roller Skaters

I always enjoyed Donald's references to a woman overflowing with an abundance of superficiality as a roller skater

From the unfaithful lover of Everything You Did to the near jailbait attraction of Hey Nineteen.

Along with the mention of sugary bad songs of the era one shouldn't forget those bad bad movies. One of which included Linda Blair of Exorcist fame - the infamous Roller Boogie

Unlike today with roller blades abounding everywhere, the roller skater stereotype was something rather uncommon in the late 70's to anywhere outside of the plasticity of southern California

then again Hey Nineteen was set in Boston, which I guess caught up a few years later

As for one of the more subtle funny Dan lyrics
I've always took "skate a little lower now" to infer that roller girl was going down on him (no need or time to take off the skates)

Lends more meaning to the line
"please take me along as you slide on down"


comments, cliques, commentary, controversy?


Name: Susan
hey- I thought I was right

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 06:33:46
Comments:
You're right, Al, the nineties aren't that bad. There are plenty of groups to enjoy (especially the early nineties)But being 14 is no excuse to argue the merits of your favorite group if you are going to do it so poorly. When I was 14, I was really into the Beatles and the Cure while all my friends were listening to Vanilla Ice. Maybe I'm a freak, but even then the mainstream annoyed me. It is all a matter of taste and choice, but when it comes to an argument or heated discussion involving music I cannot resist.

Name: StAl
stillbored@home

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 06:19:11
Comments:
Once again we've gotten to the point with the latest music thread where there is no other way to look at this. All of you are wrong and I'm right!

You see, therein lies the beauty of music. It's purely a personal taste. Mary can't help the fact that she's only 14. When I was 14 I thought Kansas and Blue Oyster Cult were the SHIT. Still holds true to this day, but the use of the word "shit" now holds a different meaning... Not to say that Mary won't like the GG Dolls when she grows up, she just might. The problem I have with their music specifically, besides the fact it plain SUCKS, is I've heard it a thousand times, from a thousand different bands. It breaks no new ground for me and does not have that personal hook that I look for. Yet for young Mary, the GG Dolls are just the ticket.

The one thing that amazes me is when I see posts from people my age or older who can't see how rich the 90's have been, musically speaking. During the 80's I had this attitude that everything new sucked unless it was Dire Straits, Peter Gabriel, U2, GD, T Heads, SRV. I couldn't open my eyes. In hindsight, there was little to open my eyes to, but I’ve since started to understand bands like Prince, The Replacements, The Pretenders, Iron Maiden, etc. Perhaps by the time the 90's rolled along I was starved? But goddamn people, there have been some absolutely fabulous bands/music surfacing during the ENTIRE decade. The Grunge thing was awesome. Open your eyes for a minute and think about the timing. Hair bands and Michael Jackson ruled the airwaves. Along comes this sound that kinda grabs you by the short hairs and says FUCK YOU. Can't help it --I liked it. Then there is the whole Phish-Dave Matthews-Blues Traveler-Widespread groove. Baby, stick a fork in me and call me done. That's the best stuff to come along in ages. There are MANY others -- Wilco, Ben Harper, Counting Crows, James McMurtry, Tracy Chapman. I supposed this is the brooding side of the 90's, but there is plenty to like.

You can sit there and listen to your Van Morrison albums overandoverandover (don't get me wrong I like Van), or you can step out of the box and listen to what's been going on. There is so much out there.

Remember, I'm right and you're wrong and I don't care what you say. That's the beauty...

StAl


Name: susan
wool over eyes

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 06:14:35
Comments:
Oh. Well, the sentiment is the same.

Name: just in case
you didn't know

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 06:06:26
Comments:

Susan - there's no way in hell that the post from "mary in Mass." was really written by a 12 year old girl. It was a joke. That happens around here a lot - people pretending to be something else just for a laugh. In time, you will be able to seperate the real from the gag.



Name: Susan
my denshers are still in the box

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 05:32:29
Comments:
Mary from Massachusetts:

I'm sure we all got a good laugh from your post. Do not assume that you must be 45 to enjoy Steely Dan. I bought Aja when I was twelve and that was only nine years ago. Its nice to see that you have an attitude about the music you listen to, but someone "nocking" Steely Dan is something you don't see very often. Sure, more people today have probably heard of the Goo Goo Dolls, but then again, more people have probably heard of Hitler than of Mother Theresa. Those who enjoy Steely Dan never put it down. I guarantee when your band is out of fashion, you'll pick up the next hottest thing. Mary, I hate to say it, but you're one of them, not one of us.


Name: Susan
susan.credit@comdial.com

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 05:21:02
Comments:
KD- You are, once again, so right. If there is anything I dislike more than hair metal, its indie rock. I went to a Pavement show with some friends one time. I actually fell asleep. No kidding. What is it about off-key singing and out of tune instruments that attracts so many? Where is the talent in that genre? I guess Sonic Youth is okay and there are a couple of Sebadoh songs that don't make me sick to my stomach, but as a whole I could do without the entire movement.

Now, the absolute worst band I've ever seen live (and this is really no contest) would be Kansas. It was like something out of Spinal Tap. They were actually playing a high school gym in this tiny town in Kansas (the state). That singer of theirs is awful. I had to wait out in the lobby trying to block out the noise that was overwhelming the place. You know what's sadder than headlining a concert at a high school? Being the opening act at a high school. I saw Blue Oyster Cult open for them at that show. BOC was actually pretty good, but I couldn't help but feel sorry for them the entire time.

Sorry to insult all of you Goo Goo Dolls/ Counting Crows people. You might be right. They might be better. But to be honest, when I hear a song of that genre on the radio I really cannot tell the difference between the bands. I stopped trying to learn the names. They all fit under " Goo Goo Dolls". But seriously, though. Where did this type of music come from? Is this what R.E.M. was fighting so hard for? Luckily, we still have great underground music to lean back on such as Aphex Twin and Bjork.

Let's see… While on the subject of horrible music, I'd also like to nominate all the music throughout the years that has been geared towards 12 year old girls. New Kids, Backstreet Boys, Sean Cassidy, Britney Spears, Leif Garrett, etc… Is there something about that age that cannot discern between real music and pre-fab junk?


Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, NY
Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 04:40:01
Comments:
....the Paul Griffin Benefit at the Bottom Line last night was quite a show, with a line-up of notable superstars and a special surprise!
Hosted by Paul Schaefer, we were treated to the sounds of the Uptown Horns featuring Al Kooper on the organ. Unfortunately, the Horns weren't allowed to open up and breathe the whole night except for a few exceptions.
(My apologies to all if I didn't get all the band personnel names and song names..there were too many.....)
Chaz Mongtomery sat in on the opening tune/vamp on harmonica - it was a jam.
We had a 4 piece Horn section, bass, drums, Al, John on Keyboards, the b/u chix and two fun blues geetarists.
Chuck Jackson showed up and sang "Any Day Now", proving once and for all that if performers throw their jacket (hat, whatever) they really want to get it back....
Paul Schaefer co-wrote Raining Men, and "Musique" - 3 honkin big ole girls - stepped up and belted it out....
Then we had the supremely talented Mary Wilson who showed up to spread the overall love for Paul Griffen, and graced us with a song. There are some that might say that she's bitter about the music industry....
but all that was forgotten as Gary U.S. Bonds stepped up and gave us an energetic set of oldies, including the interractive "Holy Shit", sounding and looking better than ever with his wife and daughter singing b/u. I believe he made mention of the relations due to the beauties they are...the eyes in the room where all over 'em. Sorry, brothers and sisters, they were f-f-f-f-FINE.....but I digress...
I met Gary several years ago when I worked at Master Sound Astoria, and he was as friendly as ever then as he looked on stage now. He was the first true highlight of the evening, his singing with the band was tight, and the audience jumped right in to participate....I would have liked to hear more from him...

Cissy Houston glowed and resonated her beautiful voice to the adoration of the crowd. A true Sweet Sensation!
Then Ben E. King stepped up to the mike, launching into a set which included Stand by Me....

I must say it was refreshing to hear songs with new, updated arrangements by the band....they didn't stick with radio version arrangements, but brought something new to each tune....

By now, my girlfriend and I were quite impressed, wonderin who would be next....
Paul Schaefer started talkin about the "next kids" being married and 'staying solid' together...
so Nick Ashford and Valerie Simpson walked out.....Now when performers come out on stage, they don't stand to the left or the right, they stand right OUT FRONT!....(Guys, have you ever had a tailor ask you "left or right"? well, I'd like to meet Nick's tailor.....)Nick was, as my girlfriend noticed, 'right out front' and smilin....but so was Valerie....so they did SOLID and sounded fantastic....
and then there was a short break.....

but overall, it was a virtual WHO's NEXT scenario......
Al Kooper came back and did a touching duo with Paul Schafer that was one of the quieter but sweet moments of the eve.....
then Paul introduced Bernard "Pretty" Purdie, who attempted to speak poetically to the Honoree, Mr. Griffin, but instead decided to let his drums to the talking, so the Uptown Horns and band were able to open up for the second time.
He incorporated a little of the "purdie shuffle" in his playing, which was hot....I only wish D&F were there to do Deacon....
then Mr. Schaefer told us that the next performer agreed to perform, but only with Paul Griffen!
The crowd was anxious to here this.......
and out came Paul Simon!
On Stage - the 3 Pauls! (Griffen, Simon & Schaefer - contact them if you have an accident) Mr. Schaefer ran through Bridge Over Troubled Water and Mrs. Robinson with Mr. Griffen on piano! The crowd loved it, and despite not really knowing the changes, Mr. Griffen lended some tasteful new ideas to these well known classics....
Mr. Simon was gracious and humble - Mr. Griffen, smiling away doing what he loves - it seemed like a mutual admiration fest!

The low point of the evening followed, when Isaac Hayes showed up, looking stoned out of his mind, and doing 'one of his classics', the Title of which was obscured from our collective memory by his following it with a 15 minute one-chaord vamp introduction to "By the Time I Get to Phoenix" which followed....
during this point I realized that it was 45 minutes to the next show and they probably had to wrap it up, which they did....
on the way out I ran into Pete Fogel and Shari, who I haven't seen since the Steely Damned Gig at Le Bar Bat. He still recognized me - the man knows faces, I tell ya!

I was informed that Donald and Walter are in town, but weren't showing up the the Griffen love fest....I'm going to go by LBB and check out the cranked up version of 2ndA by the Damned and check out some of the funkier bands coming in....

Overall, it was a wonderful, nostalgic evening full of great music for a great 'key' man, and it was wonderful to see all those stars in such an intimate setting....for those unable to attend, it was a special night!

The high points were Gary U.S. Bonds, Ashford and Simpson and Paul Simon. Always of note was Mr. Schaefer's duties as host which were ably applied, and I'm still amazed at his range to be able to play everything, and well!

"As we were waiting to get a cab uptown, watching the stretch limo's pass, I thought about the bitterness that Mary Wilson imparted, the sound of true musicians playing their axes off, the simplicity of well written music with melodies, and felt old-fashioned....but realized I had experienced these wonderful people who remained true to those concepts that I'm certain will be re-addressed with the release of Steely Dan's new album!
I still think well written music will stand the test of time - something that their previous work has done, giving hope for the future...................................................................................................................
ygk


Name: down by the river
round by the corner

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 04:09:28
Comments:
for the bass line alone - it's worth it.

Name: Oui,
oui

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 03:48:50
Comments:
cowgirl : be careful there are some on this board who would fry you for your affirmation.Not me (although they were a bit patchy) - I can listen for the bass lines alone. I remember hearing 'To Be Over' (from Relayer) while taking a shower under acid.Forget Lithium, that was Nirvana.

Name: Elmo Lincoln
no marigolds in the hole where they used to grow

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 02:06:13
Comments:
If we humans were apes under the control of "smarter" apes, what would you expect for dinner?

A button to push?

Or TNO?


EL



Name: Clas
we can make it happen...

Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 at 01:51:54
Comments:
May I ask, please no offense, I AM interested;

Paul Griffin needs a new liver. And he has to BUY one? Dr Mu, maybe you can explain how you're social system works? And remember, I don't wanne start a fight. I am serious.

And a cool thing; Griffin played all Bacharach-pianoparts on those great songs! I didn't know that.

Thanx to all responds on my friends harddrive crash. Though I don't know much about digital recording (sequencing is another thing) I thought the worst had happened; Pro Tools 5.0 and a incompatible harddisc. My man could save my song, he called me the night after the big boom. The song is now named: "I was down in the big nowhere but now I'm back".

The Stranger - yeah, a big blonde, a touch of Tuesday Wedge. Cocktailmuzak?

RubyBaby - it was your respond on the "the Donald Faden"-post. Ahh, forget it. And yeah, as Geena said, Sylvias Mother is a pain. And I have to say this; "With a Gun" is a "turn off", a "jump over" too.

DLee Stan - for me, raised on music in the early 70s, in Sweden, rock was rebellism, anger, a way to piss on a false society.

If a group like Chicago -71 sings out their hate and frustration over unfair things in society, and then 5 years later goes to Sun City, in apartheid SouthAfrica, a kind of white Las Vegas, banned by Amnesty, (so were the artists who played there) just for the money, I think that's a shitty thing to do.

So, a Nixon mask or not a Nixon mask, I want some engagement. Some honesty. Music that shows me that the artist believes in something.

Today it's all about the money.

C


Name: Bodacious Cowgirl
I get up...I get down

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 23:02:24
Comments:
One of my favorite albums of all time is Yes 'Close to the Edge', truly a work of art.

Oh and thanks, I've had that damn 'Cherokee People' song in my head so long I think I'm going to have an aneurysm.

BC


Name: DrMu
forgot

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 19:13:58
Comments:
90s: also Together Alone - Crowded House (their best IMHO)

Name: Andy
explanation

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 19:09:09
Comments:
In the below post, I am of course talking about the tour guitarist for 2000. But you figured that out already (didn't you?).

Name: DrMu
no confidence interval

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 19:07:55
Comments:
Mary: You can take a breath now. The Goo Goos are OK, but the lead singer should decide on a dye job and go with it.

Hey, Adam D. can spin a yarn, but the Gin Blossoms were a tighter power pop band. The first album (New Miserable Experience) is pretty snappy and the lyrics are not exactly Osmond fare - dark enough for the most cynical critic who might actually read the lyric sheet.

Glad to see Marshall Crenshaw's debut mentioned as well as the shockingly good Seeds of Love by Tears for Fears.

50s: Cookin' - Miles Davis
60s: Rubber Soul - Beatles
70s: Katy Lied - Steely Dan (Hon ment: Aja - Steely Dan; Fulfilingness First Finale and Talking Book - Stevie Wonder)
80s: The Nightfly - Donald Fagen (hon ment: Nothing Like the Sun - Mr. Sting; Document - REM; Peter Gabriel and So - Peter Gabriel; Colour of Spring - Talk Talk)
90s: Bad Love - Randy Newman (hon ment: Automatic for the People - REM; ...Reinhold Meissner - Ben Folds Five; most of Abandoned Garden - Michael Franks)

not a lot of competition in the 90s with rap, metal, and grunge (Bass heavy new wave with more depressing lyrics) dominating the early part. I like Sarah Mc Laughlin, though one of her CDs is not in my possession.

Scamster: There are 2 types of error of course: random error and bias error (sometimes called systematic, though I prefer bias). Random error indicates the the distribution of notes singers (or takes for say a Gary Lewis of the Playboys fame) would be either to sharp or too flat and the more tries, the closer the mean note would be to the attempted note...and as you mentioned the distribution or bell curve would become narrower as more attempts were taken. The standard error of the mean is a way comonly used to represent scatter on a figure when presenting data from a study (SEM = standard deviation/(sqr. root of n)); where n is the number of samples.

However, if the overall tendency of our failed singers is to sing a note not only poorly but a bit flat (which is a common error in singing), then a significant bias error would occur in addition to the random error. The mean of the notes actually hit would begin to center of a frequency lower than the attempted note as the number of attempts (n) increases.

For example, if I throw darts at a dart board, small variations in my throwing motion would cause a random pattern (cloud) of darts around the middle of the target. If I also have a tendency to throw low as well, the cloud would be centered below the target, maybe on the wall draawing the ire of the proprietor.

Also, as the number of attempts increases, the likelihood of more (absolute number) sour notes also increases. In other words, more "outliers" appear even though the distribution (bell-shaped curve) is narrowing. The "random walk" theory (used often to describe movement of air molecules) applies here.


Name: Andy
U pick the guitarist

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 18:49:26
Comments:
Denny Dias. Seriously, why wouldn't he do it? He doesn't have any other work lined up and he's not working with computers anymore. He's got nothing but time. However, in all likelihood the guitarist will probably be someone who worked on 2vN. I don't know who that may be, I guess we'll have to wait a few months.

YGK - How was the Griffin show last night? I heard a rumor that D + W would be there. Apparently some DJ in London said that SD would be playing NY this week. Was Paul Griffin himself there? Any word on how he's doing?

Peace out,
Andy


Name: Applause sign lights
host walks out

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 17:41:50
Comments:

Let's thank the Guess Who for giving us their favorite 100 albums. Aren't they great?The albums AND the Gues Who! Hahaha! But seriously, next we have the Three Dog Night to give us their favorite 100 albums. Here they are; let's give them a hand!

Roger Rogerson


Name: guess
who

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 17:27:08
Comments:

The 100 Best Albums of the Rock Era

So, I can¹t pretend to know the best albums of all-time, or the most important historically. This is a sampling of what has been on my stereo. I enjoy these albums. It is impossible to list them perfectly in order. Also, if a band never had a classic album you might miss out unless many Greatest Hits are listed for bands. Are there a lot of albums from the 60¹s here? You bet - they have stood the test of time. Call me in a few years about the 80¹s and 90¹s. Have fun with this list!

1. Beatles, "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band'' (Capitol, 1967)

2. Beatles - White Album

3. Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

4. The Allman Brothers Band, "At Filmore East'' (Capricorn, 1971)

5. Steely Dan - Aja

6. Pat Metheny Group - Pat Metheny Group

7. Paul Simon, "Graceland'' (Warner Brothers, 1986).

8. The Beatles, Revolver

9. The Beach Boys, "Pet Sounds'' (Capitol, 1966)

10. Cream - Wheels of Fire

11. Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland

12. Joni Mitchell, "Court And Spark,'' (Asylum, 1974)

13. Van Morrison - St. Dominics Preview

14. Stevie Wonder - Fufillingness¹ First Finale

15. Steely Dan - Gaucho

16. Derek and the Dominoes, "Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs'' (Atco, 1970)

17. Bruce Springsteen, "The Wild, The Innocent and the E Street Shuffle,'' (Columbia) 18. Simon & Garfunkel - Bookends

19. Jethro Tull - Benefit

20. Jack Bruce - Songs for a Tailor

21. Crosby, Stills & Nash - Crosby, Stills & Nash

22. The Mothers - Live at the Fillmore, June 15,1971

23. Donald Fagen - the Nightfly

24. The Doors, "The Doors,'' (Elektra, 1967)

25 Yes - Fragile

26. The Jimi Hendrix Experience, "Are You Experienced?'' (Reprise, 1967)

27. Santana, "Abraxas'' (Columbia, 1970)

28. Traffic - Mr. Fantasy (British Version)

29. John Hiatt - Slugline

30. Bob Dylan, "Blonde on Blonde'' (Columbia, 1966)

31. Pretenders - Learning to Crawl

32. Peter Gabriel - So

33. Elvis Presley, "Elvis Presley,'' (RCA, 1956)

34. Stevie Wonder - Innervisions

35. The Beatles - Abby Road

36. Steely Dan, "Katy Lied'' (MCA, 1975).

37. Thomas Dolby - Aliens Ate my Buick

38. Paul Simon - Rhythm of the Saints

39. Pat Metheny Group - The Road to You

40. Marshall Crenshaw, "Marshall Crenshaw'' (Warner Brothers, 1982).

41. Walter Becker - 11 Tracks of Whack

42. Kate Bush, "The Hounds of Love,'' (EMI, 1985)

43. Dave Brubeck - Last Set at Newport

44. John Hiatt, "Bring the Family'² (A&M, 1987)

45. Elvis Costello - This Years Model (British version)

46. Stevie Ray Vaughn and Double Trouble - Greatest Hits

47. Earth Wind & Fire - the Best of (V.1)

48. Pat Metheny - 80/81

49. Spirit - Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus

50. The Rolling Stones - Their Santanic Majestic Request

51. Led Zeppelin, "Led Zeppelin'' (Atlantic, 1969).

52. Dave Matthews - Crash

53. Tears for Fears - Seeds of Love

54. Traffic, "Traffic'' (Island, 1968).

55. Frank Zappa - Apostrophe (Œ)

56. U2, "War,'' (Island, 1983)

57. Marvin Gaye, "What's Going On'' (Tamla, 1971)

58. NRBQ - Peek-a-Boo (Best of )

59. Joe Cocker - Joe Cocker!

60. Wes Montgomery -The Verve Silver Collection

61. Chaka Khan & Rufus - Live - Stompin¹ at the Savoy

62. Police - Syncronicity

63. Boz Scaggs - Silk Degrees

64. Patsy Cline - 12 Greatest Hits

65. Traffic - Smiling Phases (hits)

66. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense

67. King Crimson - The Compact King Crimson

68. Bruce Hornsby and the Range - The Way it is

69. Paula Cole - This Fire.

70. The Manfred Mann Album (1st on Ascot)

71. James Brown, "Live at the Apollo,'' (King, 1963).

72. Joni Mitchell - The Hissing of Summer Lawns

73. George Harrison, "All Things Must Pass'' (Apple, 1971).

74. Willie Dixon - I am the Blues

75. Bob Dylan - Stealin¹

76. Springsteen - Born to Run

77. The Allman Bros. Band - The Allman Bros. Band

78. The Doors - Waiting for the Sun

79. Byrds - Mr. Tambourine Man

80. Herbie Mann - Push Push

81. Mike Bloomfield and Al Kooper - Live Adventures of . . .

82. Stevie Wonder - "Songs in the Key of Life'' (Motown, 1976)

83. Sarah McLachlan - Surfacing

84. The (Young) Rascals - The Ultimate Rascals

85. The Mamas and the Papas- California Dreamin¹

86. Strawberry Alarm Clock - Incense and Peppermints

87. Tom Petty and the Heartbreaker - Greatest Hits

88. Lovin¹ Spoonful - Anthology

89. The Zombies - Greatest Hits

90. King Crimson - The Compact King Crimson

91. Pacific Gas & Electric - Get it On . . .

92. Richie Havens - Mixed Bag II

93. Bonnie Raitt - Taking my Time

94. Ben Fold Five - Whatever and Ever Amen

95. Roy Orbison - The All-Time Greatest Hits

96. Ron Sexsmith - Ron Sexsmith

97. Carol King - Tapestry

98. Ravi Shankar - Live at the Monterey International Pop Festival

99. Daniel Lanois - The Beauty of Wynonna

100. Richard Pryor - Wanted


Name: aja
can't resist

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 17:24:04
Comments:
Favorite early 70's: "Moondance" Van Morrison
Favorite late 70's: "Aja" Steely Dan (yeah, how predictable!)
Favorite mid 80's: "Joshua Tree" U2
Favorite late 80's: anything Stevie Ray Vaughan
Favorite early 90's: not much, maybe the REM album with "Try Not To Breathe" on it. Great for listening to when you've got the horrible February blahs.
Favorite late 90's: it all sucks! That's when I got into 60's and 70's music (and turned 30. It happened, I suddenly hated the "kids music", just like they said I would).


aja


Name: maj©
frontier@careerfrontier.net

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 16:24:51
Comments:
U PICK THE GUITARISTS FOR THE TOUR...

Anyone interested in *wishing* for who they'd love to hear play with the DAN this summer?

My pick... Michael Gurley, of Dada. Lots of great licks. Just put out a jazz sorta recording. hope it's under the tree.

maj©


Name: Mary
none
Location: Whitman MA, MA US
Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 16:24:16
Comments:
I am the biggest Goo Goo Doll fan alive and I know it may shock you because I am only 14 and on a geezer web site but my dad showed me what it says about the goo goo dolls and I dont appreciate it they are good and hard working.I know every thing about them I even have lead singer Johnny Joseph Theodor Rzezniks old address so I have a lot of info on them my point is they work just as hard and harder at this buisness and do better ,but im not nocking steely Dan they are good I even saw them in concert but you should know Goo Goo Dolls tour more than any other band on earth and that has been looked into it is actiually a known fact also you may not like younger bands ,but give them some credit they will be old some day to . But it is true you can't compare them to Steely Dan because tyhey are way better and way more known than Donnald Faget and what ever that other guys name is O.K. I am nocking Steely Dan They stink and are not getting any better.You can go around and say "Do you know the goo goo dolls " and "do you know steely dan" Im am possitive 99.9 % of them have hered of Goo Goo Dolls and not steely Dan.Also you must be pretty thretend if you say "They should take there tatood asses and go back to Buffalo" because it is them who visites there home town and does charity and free concerts.I saw them in concert and I even cryed the whole show it was so good.You know so little about them you probably dont even know there names.or that they have 6 cds and hundreds of fan websites.I go to all the web sites and collect pictures I have 1,106 pics of them . So I know more about they And I have the right to talk about them un like you. so go take your steely dan cds and keep washing your denshers you wont get to hear them soon any way that sence should be gone any time now.

well g/g nice talking to just hope you can read it. luv Mary from Massachussetts.


Name: TheStranger
...also

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 15:58:17
Comments:
Best 70s: 'Aja,' of course.

And that was supposed to be 'quintet.'


Name: TheStranger
The Past

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 15:56:52
Comments:
Roy Scam,
What's striking about Astrid Gilberto is her absolute bordeom. She has the voice of a woman who thinks it's uncool to show emotion.

KD,
Got 'Relaxin' with Miles Davis quinted & 'Steamin' and I also recommend 'Cookin.'

60s: 'Surrealistic Pillow,' Jefferson Airplane. Not a bad track.

Turn of the decade 60s to 70s: 'Deja Vu,' Crosby Stills Nash & Young.


Name: KD
Free NBA Fantasy League @
Location: onhoops.com,
Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 15:37:17
Comments:
and I just bought Korn's newest for my little brother for Christmas.

That's what it is, music for 12-year olds.


Name: KD
Free Fantasy League @
Location: onhoops.com,
Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 15:34:48
Comments:
St. Al:

Exile is probably the greatest rock and roll album. Ever. But I love 'Aja' so much more...

Despite all my jocky-ness, musically, though I didn't listen to the music as much, I grew up with the punk aesthetic. Even though I can't spell the word, I've kept a very cynical outlook on things, although I own every Queen album. (How many different ways can I say 'In spite of'???)

Duritz just kills me with the repeated anti-rock star stuff. Get over it. Listening to him say "Don't believe in me!" to a stadium full of kids on their live album makes me want to hurt him, badly. Sorry. Did anyone see that Chicago Tribune trashing of the Crows of few weeks back? It was something else.

I was weaned on the guitar-y 'FM' for years, and didn't hear the sax outro one until a few months back. I prefer the sax outro one, but I'm beginning to miss the guitar version, espectially after listening to the 'AM' version of it dozens of times on Tomas' site. Becker and that rusty-stringed Mustang...

re: the new CDs. I have mp3s that sound light years better than my Dad's old MCA cds of 'PL,' "Katy," and "Countdown." Not cool.

Soc: Ever go to the Park West?

Last I heard of Cibo Matto was in 1995, the "Know Your Chicken" era. Fun stuff, but haven't bought anything since.

Bucket O Suds has to be still there. Right? I sure hope it is, actually...

Susan:

Actually, I'd take the Poisons and Motley Crues over these bands today. At least, with the hair metal guys, when they wrote songs about snorting coke off the thong-ed ass of a 19-year old stripper, they meant it. Today, its just insincere angst and ENTIRELY too much irony. God damn I'm sick off all this irony, fucking Pavement.

Though I loved the Pavement, until 96 or so. Still have a T-shirt, from Lollapalooza, 1995. Cut the sleeves off a few years back and still wear it when shooting hoops.

Basically, the kids have been listening to hip-hop for a dozen years and have the attention span of a, wait, what was I saying?

Anyway, I see this whole white-trash rap thing as a natural, though unfortunate, progression.

Sorry I don't like the Floyd. I REALLY tried, took everyone's advice and listened to all the albums on the big cans, on a couch. I figure, if my Dad can make it through the 1970s hating the Floyd the whole way, the least I can do is make it through the 1990s.


Name: tuesdayweld
kelleyo13@aol.com
Location: alexandria, VA
Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 15:23:36
Comments:
What? No one likes Kamakiriad for the 90's?

Name: StAl
stalfnzo@seanet.com

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 14:36:55
Comments:
I meant - ISN'T fair... I hate it when i do that...

Name: StAl
stalfnzo@seanet.com

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 14:33:22
Comments:
Ok, so I'm bored...

40's: Birth Of The Cool/Miles Davis
50's: Kind Of Blue/Miles Davis
60's: Abbey Road/The Beatles (brilliant even through the turmoil)
70's: Overnite Sensation/Frank Zappa - Aja/Steely Dan
80's: So/Peter Gabriel - Speaking in Tongues/Talking Heads
90's: Crash/Dave Matthews Band

I'd have put Exile On Main Street in there but you've got to draw the line at some point...

Regarding sensitive, overwrought Counting Crows. Gotta say I don't think the comparison to Gin Blossoms and Goo-Goo Dolls is fair. Though their sound may be similar, Adam Durvitz's songwriting ability is heads and shoulders above any of the others.

Yeah, the Gin Blossoms are a moot point, but the GG Doll's need to shuffle their tattooed asses back off to Buffalo and stay there.

KD: You've obviously never experienced the enlightening effects of a mind altering substance. Dissin' the Floyd? GOOD GOD MAN -- what is wrong with you?

StAl


Name: tom
bergeon@shellus.com
Location: New Orleans,
Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 14:15:19
Comments:
New to the GB, a nice site, interesting personalities, and enjoyed the Aja song analysis discussions

hope to not go over too much overly discussed material,
so email me privately if this is old old rehash

I see there is a latest set of remasters of the original albums

having some 1st and second gen MCA cd issues, the first ones were just plain horrible, the second seem about equivalent to the Citizen Dan Box.. I was curious on how much of an upgrade these issues are over the Dan box set. Granted, just getting the original artwork, updated liner notes and lyrics is about worth the $13 or so for the release, not to mention that it is just totally damn aggravating trying to listen to the original albums as intended the way the box set is spaced out. Yes I know, they were trying to squeeze the whole thing down to 4 discs with the few extra goodies, but strategically pairing two of the shorter albums on a single disc would have allowed for one to listen to things easier in their original context(even if not exactly chronological thru the whole set).

I know, get a multidisc changer, sorry but my single disc CAL Labs Cd player (with tube analog section) is just too musical to give up for the convienance and sonic agitation of most cd changers out there. I'm a bit of an ex audio snob and have a few insights on the sonic qualities of Dan material

cheers
Tom


Name: Ash Ketchum
Poke-Dan Master

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 13:54:22
Comments:

Ash: "The powerful HOF has chosen BonnieRaitt for this battle. DonWalt, I choose you!!!"

(Ash throws his Poke-ball. There is a brilliant flash of light. When it diminishes, we see DonWalt, the brilliant two-headed Poke-Dan.)

DonWalt: "DonWalt. DonWalt."

Ash: (obviously upset) "What do you mean, you're too busy to battle?"

DonWalt: "DonWalt. DonWalt."

Ash: "You're kidding! You still haven't finished the album yet?!"

DonWalt: "DonWalt. DonWalt."

Ash: "I should have tried to capture a Clapton. This is so embarassing."

Voice Over: "The DonWalt's powers are incredible songwriting, and arranging; along with the ability to pick a superb line-up of sidemen. Their weaknesses are perfectionism coupled with fastidiousness. They only do battle when they are good and ready, regardless of what others wish."

DonWalt: "DonWalt. DonWalt."

Ash: "Yeah, I remember your last battle. It was great. But, it was twenty years ago. I'm starting to wonder if you'll ever battle again."

Voice Over: "Will DonWalt battle again? Will Ash finally give up on him and try to capture a sure thing, like a MowtownGroup? Stay tuned.

(Fade to credits.)


Name: picking
bones

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 13:24:08
Comments:
It's too hard to pick just one - when I think of Debussy then Satie and Ravel come to mind (BTW whatever happened to French music?). Then there's 'Rapsody in Blue' -no contest for the best opening note - wait , what about Bach's 'Air in D major' and so on into the night.
On 'Stairway to Heaven' and 'Dark Side of the Moon' - it's true they've become painful which is really sad. I wish I could rewind and hear them for the first wonderful time again.They were both intelligent and sensual. I remember pawing through 'The Tibetan Book ofthe Dead' and thinking "Yes, I know. Pink Floyd taught me that".

Name: pap
smear

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 12:46:55
Comments:

this is just a test



Name: roy.scam
2.standard.deviates.from.the.mean

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 12:19:31
Comments:
Dr.Mu: I concur with your choices for album of the year, with "Liquid Skin" by Gomez close behind. I project that none of the three will be grammy nominated.

Mu and other mathoids: The recent talk of cheesy songs has steered me to a revolutionary application of mathematics to music: If we had , say, Leonard Cohen, Roberta Flack, Astrid Gilberto, and Richard Harris, or any group of singers unlikely to hit the right note either by limitation or by choice, and had them all sing the same song simultaneously, then the mean note hit [that's "average note" for you sociology majors] should be closer to the actual intended frequency than any of the individual attempts. By the central limit theorem, the more bad singers you have operating on a song, the smaller the expected deviation from actual proper pitch. So, next time we do "We Are the World" we just gather a sufficiently larg group of honkers and squeakers and it should sound , on the average, as good as the original bunch of on-key Belafontes, Midlers, Ingrams, Jacksons, Nelsons, and LaBelles.

Q.E.D.

R.S.


Name: Anssi
anssi.mehtala@lansi-savo
Location: Mikkeli, Finland
Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 12:02:03
Comments:
No, the original FM is featured on the Decade Of SD comp. Expanded Gold (at least my CD) has the sax version. By the way, that version must be a mix of the original FM and the FM Reprise which is on the original FM soundtrack. It seems that somebody has just tucked the reprise at the end of the original instead of the original fade...does anybody have forther info?

Name: YGK
..

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 11:56:27
Comments:
Chris: That would be the Expanded Gold disc - guitar solo to fade....

ygk


Name: Sociable Hermit
BOTC

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 11:12:33
Comments:
Even though many of the selections were recorded in '49, "Birth Of The Cool", wasn't released as an album until sometime around summer of 1950.

Yeah, Terri Hemmert still dj's at WXRT, only she's no longer in the morning slot: she does 9:30 - noon, I believe. Booby Skafish is back there as well, only I'm not sure what his regular shift is.

WBEZ is the major public radio station in Chicago, and the only place with a decent signal that plays jazz, even if they only play it from 8pm to 4:30am. Can you believe it? Chicago, one of the original jazz cities, doesn't have a single full-time jazz station. There is one on the AM that plays most of the day, I believe, but the signal is so weak, you have to have one of those giant relay antenna attached to your house of car if you live more than 4 miles away.

Anyway...back to business.

Later,

Herm


Name: Chris Moyer
chrismoyer@earthlink.net
Location: NOVI, MI USA
Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 11:07:42
Comments:
On which CD compilation does the version of "FM" exist with the extended outro guitar solo (instead of the sax) reside?


Name: Susan
*

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 11:05:36
Comments:
Best album of '99: Mezzanine- Massive Attack

Name: Miz Ducky
mizducky@drizzle.com

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 11:03:39
Comments:
I'm just not prepared to say all-time best albums, because I'm way behind on my listening too. I am willing, however, to list two albums out this year that entertained me more than anything else I'd heard:

Cibo Matto: "Stereo-Type A" -- Japanese girl-group funk blasts off into spy-movie soundtrack heaven

Macy Gray: "On How Life Is" -- gotta love a singer who out-Earthas Eartha Kitt, and titles a song "Sex-o-matic Venus Freak"

Gotta wake up some more before I start listing personal faves from previous decades.

/Miz Ducky
flying groggy this morning


Name: JWMalibu
www.boards.com

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 11:01:46
Comments:
1900 - La Mer/Debussy
1910 - Rite of Spring/Stravinsky
1920 - Piano Concerto 3 in C Major/Prokofiev
1930 - Mood Indigo/Duke Ellington
1940 - Cherokee/Charlie Parker
1950 - Sketches of Spain/Miles Davis
1960 - Tie: Sgt. Pepper/The Beatles & Hot Rats/Frank Zappa
1970 - Tie: Aja/Steely Dan & Hissing of Summer Lawns/Joni Mitchell
1980 - Tie: The Nightfly/Donald Fagen & Nothing Like the Sun/Sting
1990 - Turbulent Indigo/Joni Mitchell
1999 - Unauthorized Biography of Rein/Ben Folds Five
2000 - 2vsN!

Name: GenuFredct
terri hemmert still do the morning show?
Location: Windy,
Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 10:59:33
Comments:
oo ooo oooo.

just rec'd the following in my mail:

>IT'S GREAT. WOW...

that's all it said.


and re: xrt. used to hang out at a place called bucket o suds on the west side (wonder if it's still there) with a buddy from bez ('nother fine station) .. had a crush on bobby scayfish (bad spelling? .. hmm.. not such a great name, either..) When I drive into Chgo, still tune in..

Tampa's got a good one, too.. MNF..
last time i was there, they were only broadcasting at like.. 50 watts..
some tower thingy broken.. same old, same old.. gotta love it.

li'l chia's growin like a weed.

ready set gotta go/bye


Name: David in the Florida Room
dmoore113@aol.com

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 10:52:07
Comments:

Favorite Album of the 90's ---Kal David-Double Tuff
Favorite Album of the 80's --Donald's-Night Fly
Favorite Albums of the 70's --Aja-/Chick Corea-Romantic Warrior
Favorite
Albums of the 60's --- Hendrix-Axis: Bold As Love
tied with Sgt.Pepper and Todd's Band .Nazz

Name: Susan
yecch

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 10:50:31
Comments:
KD-

I have to agree with you about the Goo Goo Dolls/Counting Crows/Gin Blossoms crap. And while we're on the subject of music that is irritating nowadays: What about all of those Korn clones? Did Korn need to be imitated? I don't think so. But I think that the worst music of the century can be found in the eighties with absolute shite like Whitesnake, Poison, and also the equally bad Billy Ocean, Jefferson Starship, Don Henley's solo "projects", Brian Adams, C + C Music Factory, etc... I mean, did anyone ever enjoy this junk?


Name: KD
bestus
Location: onhoops.com,
Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 10:41:16
Comments:
I'm only hey 19, so jump on these if you will...

40s- Birth of the Cool
50s- Kind of Blue
60s- Sgt. Pepper
70s- Aja
80s- Pleased to Meet Me (Replacements)
90s- Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (Passion Mumpkins)

Least favorite:

Eagles save maybe 4 songs, Scorpions, Pink Floyd...any of the insulting, overwrought sensitive rock that started after bands like Live and Collective Soul started coming out.


Name: Susan
hey...

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 10:28:55
Comments:
C'mon.... Freebird and Stairway to Heaven aren't that bad, especially when compared to Celine Dion.

Name: fezo
icannamethattuneintwonotes

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 10:26:02
Comments:
Key Largo

Best Album of 1998: Kind of Blue
Best Album of 1999: Duke Ellington, The London Concerts

Obviously, I'm a little behind in my record listening. I'll post in about 37 years with my selection for the favorite album actually recorded in 1999


Name: ruby baby
wehaditalljustlikebogieandbacall

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 10:15:54
Comments:
Geena: What do you win...hmmm How about a swift kick in the rear? I had "please mrs daydree I've just got to talk to her..." running through my head alternately with "island girl..." all day! Okay, I hate violence. How about I give you a few tunes to recall instead? Here they are -

Convoy
The Mighty Quinn
Little Willy (Willy Won't Go Home)
Midnight At The Oasis
(She's)Having My Baby
Dead Skunk In The Middle Of The Road
Spiders & Snakes
The Candy Man
Please Come To Boston

Herm: You already mentioned the other ones that came uninvited into my thought life. We owe these people big time, don't we?

rb


Name: Edd


Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 10:00:21
Comments:

60s: "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"
70s: "Aja"

Outside of those two the other decades are all melted together.

re: Forbidden Songs:

Those must be the songs with the subconscious hypersonic intermuscle tensor alogrithms in the sub-carrier. I know for a fact "Freebird" and "Stairway to Heaven" are both S.H.I.T. encoded. As soon as I hear them, my hand jumps to the tuner...

Celine Dion has the encoder in overdrive mode...


Name: Same Disclaimer
.

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 09:41:23
Comments:
Cousin Dupree: inevitably, eventually, yes -- probably

Name: Sociable Hermit
RRHOF

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 09:41:03
Comments:

I just read the list of inductees, and I do agree about Bonnie Raitt. She does not belong in the HOF before SD.

The sideman category is interesting, and I fully agree with voting in King Curtis. Not only was he an excellent sideman, he was a great leader with some wonderful records.

Later,

Herm

 


Name: You Didn't Hear It
From Me

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 09:38:27
Comments:
First single (due out in Feb.): What a Shame About Me w/Wetside Story (live)

Name: Susan
my personal favorites

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 08:55:42
Comments:
Well, I'm only 21 and I have a disgusting ignorance of music before the sixties (I like motown, Elvis, big band and all of that stuff, just not so well that I can name off albums), so let me give you my favorites for 60's on:

best 60's: Rubber Soul- beatles
best 70's: Royal Scam- Steely Dan
best 80's: (tie) The Smiths-the Smiths or Dead Letter Office-R.E.M
best 90's: Ritual De Lo Habitual- Jane's Addiction

Okay, these were pretty hastily thrown together thoughts so don't hold me to this.


Name: susan
hi again

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 08:47:35
Comments:
I just read in the Reelin' in the Years book (I just got it last week) that Don Henley sang back-up on FM, however he isn't credited and I don't hear it. Anyone know the truth behind the rumor?

Oh-- and thanks for the warm welcome everyone!

Also, Dave Gilmour's guitar skills haven't suffered-- its the song writing. I guess without Barrett or Waters it was bound to happen...


Name: Sociable Hermit
My brain hurts!

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 08:05:06
Comments:

Hey,

Well, because of yesterday's conversations, my brain began insisting, no matter how much I fought, on remembering songs from the 70's that I hate, and now I've got "One Tin Soldier" stuck in my head. "Horse With No Name", keeps playing over and over as well, even though I really don't hate that one as much.

Brains nowadays. When I was a kid, I walked seven miles in the snow, just to fill my brain with bits of information. And even though I didn't control what went in, I did control what came out. Not anymore. These brains, they got a mind of their own. Couldn't get away with that in the old days, I'll tell 'ya that.
"Cherokee people...Cherokee tribe...So proud to live...So proud..." Damn it! Stop!!!

Later,

Herm (giving my head a good smack)


Name: YGK
..

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 07:39:10
Comments:
Donald & Walter: 'twould be great!

Name: china hihnee
docka woo

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 07:30:42
Comments:
How about the forbidden tunes. These are the songs you only heard 3 bars of, at best, before the station was changed.

1)Steve Miller Band, "really love your peaches want shake your tree"
2)Disco Lady, "push it in, pull it out, disco lady" (something like that)


Name: Donald & Walter
I'llbe@thebottomline.com

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 07:11:04
Comments:

ygk- See you tonite!

Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, NY
Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 06:31:04
Comments:
Anyone going to the Paul Griffin 7:30 at the Bottom Line?

ygk


Name: Lars
@the archives

Date: Thursday, December 9, 1999 at 05:52:37
Comments:
best album of

the 90´s: "Sympathique" - Pink Martini
the 80´s: "The nightfly" -Donald Fagen
the 70´s: "Live" - Donny Hathaway/"Fresh" -Sly & the Family Stone
the 60´s: "Revolver" - Beatles
the 50´s: "Kind of blue" - Miles Davis
the 40´s: "Birth of the cool" - Miles Davis

uhhh, no Dan!?


Name: Schwinn
Bill's Bored...

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 22:19:53
Comments:
DLeeStan: Third World Man "happened" because the boys realized Mizar 5 was in their own backyard.

Midnight Cruiser: Ok, here we go:

Best Album of the 90's; "The Future" by Leonard Cohen.

" " of the 80's; (Tie): Steely Dan "Gaucho" and the Police "Synchronicity".

" " of the 70's; (Tie): Led Zepplin "IV" and Pink Floyd "Dark Side of the Moon"

" " of the 60's; (Tie): The Beatles "Rubber Soul" and the Troggs "The Troggs"

Ok, ok, ok. Needless to say I didn't spend a fortnight thinking these choices over so don't bother making me feel like a schmuck. Perhaps a better way to conduct this poll is to list your top 10 albums of each decade. Decade? Oh yeah, I forgot "Decade"!

SEMB


Name: SoulMonkey16&8
SoulMonkey168@aol.com
Location: Louisville, KY United States
Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 21:31:12
Comments:
"Take your hands out of my pockets, don't put them in again." - pure genius. Screw the Rock-n-roll hall of fame. who needs em'? by the way the best album in my humble opinion is OK Computer by Radiohead.- stunning. If anyone has heard from Jerry in Pittsburgh have him e-mail me at SoulMonkey168.@aol.com. I think Gretchen is going to bring me that Cuban Breeze b4 the new album is out. Been waiting years guys. enough already. Planning to go to every show on NA tour w/my fellow partner in crime, Crackhead you already know!!!!!! Got the stetson hat the Black Cow and the Green Earings all lined up. I'm out like a cheerleader at a craps game.

Name: DLeeStan
@aol
Location: Chicago,
Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 18:31:27
Comments:
How did Third World Man happen?

It is painful to hear DF mixed down following the last verse,
"by and b~~y, when the sidewalks are safe for the
blah-blah-blah...." He's hemorrhaging! He sounds like Al Martino 39 years ago. I can only hope they don't start where they left off. Further, why was this maudlin puff included on the Alive record?

The rest of Gaucho is supreme, including Hey Nineteen which is at least as cute as Everyone's Gone to the Movies.
The demo version of Everyone's Gone to the Movies in the box sounds like it came off Talking Heads' More Songs About Buildings and Food. It's a beautiful thing with Flo and Eddie of Zappa's Chung's Revenge fame. Sharleena is a must hear.

Clas- We're not quite on the same page regarding Steely balls.
I don't think the boys need to be angry, or hungry as much as they need to be in the funk, ie. funky, funkified. In the most subtle, sublime ways of course. I too loved Chicago through middle school because Pankow blew a cool bone and wrote some pretty snappy* charts, NOT because he wore a Nixon mask you crusty old hippie. :?}

*snappy: word to avoid using for songwriting


Name: DrMu
Crunchberries rule!

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 17:45:24
Comments:
Favorite album:
Unauthorized Biography of Reinhold Meissner - Ben Folds five
Bad Love - Randy Newman (I'll be disappointed if this one is overloked by the Grammys)

Favorite Single: either by Sixpence None the Richer (There She Goes and the other one)

Favorite Video: any (I've only seen about 10 all year) with Chely Wright, Faith Hill, or Shania Twain


Name: Sociable Hermit
Sorry, Quisp, but it's happening to me, too!

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 17:40:35
Comments:

Hey,

Not trying to be a jerk, but LP's weren't introduced until 1948, so we can either eliminate that category up til then, or consider albums/cd's of songs compiled from a decade as being from that decade.

Just a thought.

Later,

Herm


Name: KD
mm

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 17:26:43
Comments:
Favorite Album - "Summerteeth," Wilco
Favorite Song - tie, "Rosa Parks," Outkast, "Pieholden Suite," Wilco

Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 17:19:54
Comments:
We did it last year, let's do it again this year!

Favorite Song of 1999 ---

Favorite Album of 1999 ---

Please post your preferences and maybe we'll be able to get some new ideas from each other on what we liked and didn't like this year....and since it's Century's End we *could* do:

Favorite Song & Album of the 90's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 80's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 70's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 60's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 50's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 40's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 30's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 20's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 10's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 00's ---

My wife said the omission of the 70's on the first post was a bad Disco flashback....she's probably right.


Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 17:17:59
Comments:
We did it last year, let's do it again this year!

Favorite Song of 1999 ---

Favorite Album of 1999 ---

Please post your preferences and maybe we'll be able to get some new ideas from each other on what we liked and didn't like this year....and since it's Century's End we *could* do:

Favorite Song & Album of the 90's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 80's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 60's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 50's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 40's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 30's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 20's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 10's ---
Favorite Song & Album of the 00's ---

at least do the favorite's for this year if you don't want to do the rest!

MC


Name: KD
XRT

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 15:18:22
Comments:
Soc:

All around. In the city. Maywood (ick), suburbs like River Forest, Bolingbrook, Western Springs, La Grange, Arlington Heights, a few more places in and out of the city that I can't remember at this point. We moved around quite a bit. The dad's from La Grange and the Mum's from Naperville (which is quite scary at this point).

My dad talks about listening to XRT post midnight or so, when it was a Spanish station during the day, and a kick ass station after hours. XRT does the adult contemporary a bit much these days, not a lot of freedom like you said, but it's still worlds better than Q101 or that one classic rock channel (CD something, can't remember the call letters)

WGIC rocks too.

XRT puts out those live CDs every Christmas, which is cool, my dad and his friends set up half the shows that are on the CDs, especially from the 75-85 period. Any Jam Production stuff, they were in on, plus others...

have a fine MP3 setlist going now, with some live (and otherwise) Little Feat, some McDonald-era Doobies, Beatles and Stones. Just picked up all of 'Relaxin' with the Miles Davis Quintet online, awesome. Now all I need is 'Steamin''


Name: Quisp
in my starship

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 15:15:34
Comments:

The only cereal posters around here are me and Frankenberry. Cap'n Crunch was a regular a long, long time ago, but he's since jumped ship to the Jimmy Buffett guest book.


Quisp


Name: fezo
neverchasedthedragon

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 15:02:57
Comments:
god, i'm becoming a serial poster

in my backwater hometown in the Shenadoah Valley of Virginia, the local radio stations quite proudly trumpeted the fact that they would not play "Time Out of Mind" because of all the drug references. And there was an actual number of such references they quoted as if they had sat down and kept a running tally with the abacus handy.

two degrees of GB separation: it was Dolly Parton who wrote "I Will Always Love You" because of the breakup of her affair in the early 1970's with Porter Wagoner. Anyone who has got a glimpse of Porter these days as Y2K approaches will know why that little factoid belongs in "Ripley's Believe It or Not"


Name: Sociable Hermit
XRT

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 14:04:38
Comments:

KD: What part of Chicago were you from? And, when did you used to listen to XRT? I was a big fan from '77 to about '90, then I think they buckled under pressure and went commercial. The dj's just don't seem to have the freedoms that they had before, and the variety of music has really fizzled. This is something that I complain about often to anyone who hangs around long enough to listen. They don't play the deep cuts like they used to. People like Elvis Costello, Grateful Dead, Todd Rundgren (if he even gets played anymore), and the Dan, who have deep, extensive catalogues, are lucky to be represented by maybe more than 3 songs anymore. Bitch bitch bitch...

I also dug listening to the Loop and WKQX in the late '70's.

Later,

Herm


Name: KD
kd@onhoops.com
Location: onhoops.com,
Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 13:51:26
Comments:
I remember hearing shitloads of 'Time Out of Mind' on WXRT, still a fine station

then, after moving away from Chicago and hearing more orthodox classic rock stations, it was 'Hey Nineteen' to death. I heard that song about as much as 'Reelin', probably more than 'Do It Again' or 'Rikki'.


Name: David in the Florida Room
dmoore113@aol.com

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 13:39:03
Comments:
Rollercoaster? Ohio Players ,i think and then chili peppers later

Name: WasAZ
@IL

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 13:38:13
Comments:
Hoops - I agree with you. Time Out of Mind was all over the airwaves in Phoenix in the same time frame you speak of.

By that time, they had pretty much beaten Hey Nineteen to death. Quite honestly, it was the overplay of that song on the radio back then that leads me today to place it on the bottom of my song preferences for that album. It's sad, too, because it's a great song. I guess I just got tired of it. Fortunately, Time Out of Mind's airplay was never quite as extensive - at least, not in my neck of the woods. Of course, if Hey 19 comes on the radio today, I won't turn it off. I just wonder where it would rate today if I hadn't been beaten over the head with it back then.

GAUCHO - Tracks in Order of Preference:
1. Glamour Profession
2. Third World Man
3. Time Out of Mind
4. My Rival
5. Babylon Sisters
6. Gaucho
7. Hey Nineteen


Name: Geena
Do the Hucklebuck

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 13:36:04
Comments:
Herm: Of course, i wasn't even a twinkle in either of my parents eyes in the 40 and a major part of the 50's, but i do remember watching an episode of the Honeymooners where Ed Norton played it on his phonograph machine cuz he was a wild and hep cat. I think he was wearing a racoon coat and one of those flat straw hats (don't know what they're called).


Mu: beat me to what? Was it Kung Fu Fighting?

Ruby: what do I win?


Got one more "Rollercoaster", I don't remember who did it. Edd?

I'm way past my quota for posting in these last few days


Name: b
est

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 13:17:41
Comments:
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Name: Sociable Hermit
I'll take a melody

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 12:49:27
Comments:

In regards to lifted melodies/verses; I have one that really gets my goat, (and I do have quite a few goats to be gotten). Does anybody remember, or even know of, the goofy dance song from the 40's-50's called, "The Hucklebuck"? (okay, now I know this seems pretty obsure, but, just humor me for a second). The chorus is actually Charlie Parker's "Now's The Time", only slowed down. If anyone out there owns copies of both of these, play them back-to-back and listen. It's a travesty. Not the fact that someone lifted a melody, because Parker actually based alot of his songs on the chords of other older songs, but that they took a Charlie Parker song and turned into that! It's a sacrilige. And the shame of it is that the two idiots that wrote it probably made more money off it that one song than Parker made in his whole career.

Later,

Herm


Name: Shhhwing
what.a.way.to.make.a.living

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 12:46:06
Comments:
Good call, Doc. And if you take a picture of Stevie and augment it to 45, it LOOKS like Dolly Parton.

S.


Name: StAl
stalfnzo@seanet.com

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 12:45:33
Comments:
re Vegas: I thought we were talking a Vegas Danfest with an associated tour date? Can only afford to go there twice in 12 months and I've already been once...

re Bad Singles: 1983 - 1989

StAl


Name: Miz Ducky
no goats to be gotten

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 12:27:39
Comments:
DrMu: Had not previously noticed that one. But my college radio station friends and I did discover that if you took the LP version of "Rhiannon" and played it at 45rpm, Stevie wound up sounding exactly, frighteningly, like Dolly Parton.

Beh-heh-eh-eh!
/Miz D.


Name: DrMu
doing my worst Andy Rooney

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 12:10:54
Comments:
Miz Ducky/: Did ya ever notice?... that the verse of Blondie's "Call Me" and verse of Stevie Nicks' Fleetwood Mac hit "Rhiannon" have virtually the same melody, only Deborah sings it a bit faster. Doesn't that get your goat when that happens?

Name: DrMu
if I should

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 12:01:39
Comments:
Spanky and the Gang: Ooohhh, had almost forgotten those really tight vocal harmonies...nice call and repeat on "...Sunday" and a variation of C&R on "I'd like to Get to Know You"

Name: aja
oh where is my Chinese music?

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 11:51:46
Comments:
Vegas Danfest: the attendees so far are Miz Ducky, ruby baby, JWMalibu, and myself (plus whoever we drag along!) with possibly St. Al, whatevah happens and a bunch of bronzed Aussies. I'm leaning toward the first or second weekend in March. Preferences? Are we ready to make the *official announcement* of a date?


aja


Name: hoops
hoops@interaccess.com

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 11:21:03
Comments:
It was brought up about "Time Out of Mind" being a hit and (assuming I interpretted the comments correctly) how they thought that that was a bit strange.

I know "Hey 19" and "Babylon Sisters" are the ones always on the MCA compilations and I love everything on "Gaucho", but in late Winter/Early Spring 1981, it was "Time Out of Mind" that got the contant rotation on the Chicago-area charts and radio stations. You constantly heard it on Top 40 and pop stations. Since then--based on what I remember as being popular--I have been surprised that it never made compilation "Hits" albums since.


Name: Miz Ducky
pleasures, guilty and otherwise

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 11:19:41
Comments:
fezo: Yeah, weeelllll ... I have mixed feelings about Bonnie Raitt in there too. I am a fan of hers (her earlier stuff more than the recent top-40 stuff). Still, I can't put her up as (what *I'd* think of as) HOF material. Certainly not before the Guyz.

As to guilty-pleasure pap-pop-song likings ... ah yes, disco. I went through my punk-rawk "disco sucks" phase, only to be shaken out of it by the bizarre combination of SD and--of all people--Deborah Harry! First the Dan softened me up with "The Fez," then they sucker-punched me with stuff like "Glamour Profession" ... and somewhere in between there Blondie slipped in and skewered me with "Heart of Glass," and I decided it was a conspiracy or something ... and then I began to listen, and realized that, hell, Gloria Gaynor and Evelyn "Champagne" King were really just doing R'n'B all over again, just with the camp and general voltage factor turned up several notches. Certainly not the "War and Peace" of pop music, but the groove is in the heart ...

Yeah, yeah, I confess, I also take an even more guilty pleasure in "Deee-lite", even though it's totally ersatz music, all samples and machines--but Funkmeister George Clinton is on several tracks of that "World Clique" album, so if nothing else those kids showed respect for their elders!

/Miz Ducky
lost in the past


Name: ruby baby
hey

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 11:07:52
Comments:
Vegas - ALRIGHT! Honey I will be there, yes I'll be there!

Oleander: You could wear your Elvis suit and no one will really notice...

Clas: How's my buddy? You, stupid? Never! But what do you mean, I almost got you there? ?

Geena: You win the prize for the worst song (Sylvia's Mother)

rb


Name: Edd


Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 11:06:55
Comments:
re: ManTran

It was a sitcom if I remember correctly.

Speaking of pipes, Janis Siegel, Cheryl Bentyne, and Laurel Masse can belt 'em out.

Saw them live at Boston's Wang Center ("For a *really* good time you can't beat The Wang...") a few years ago. Rare perforance with a big band so they hauled out stuff from the early "Manhattan Transfer" and "Pastiche" recordings.

Pure heaven.


Name: Roy.Scam
700.little.records.all.rock.rhythm.&.jazz

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 10:59:27
Comments:
Big: Strange that the article mentioned "Time Out of Mind" as a hit instead of FM, Peg, or Josie. Must have been a young reporter. Nice to see it written with respect and with the details correct.

Edd: Sometime, please check out Elaine McFarland ( the Cass-like lead singer of Spanky & Our Gang) doing "Yuccah Flat Blues". The girl could sing. -- Along those lines, remember when Manhattan Transfer had their own television variety show?

Re: the Cowsills. -- I believe that the chorus of "Springtime" may have been obliquely inspired by "Indian Lake": similar catchy tune, similar giving of directions.

RS


Name: Edd
Lucci'd again...

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 10:58:34
Comments:
With the new "Side-men" category, it seems everyone who played in Steely Dan could get inducted before Becker and Fagen.

Could we be witnessing the creation of musical Susan Luccis?


Name: fezo
huh?

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 10:43:52
Comments:
Bonnie Raitt in the HOF? Someone please explain.

Name: Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 10:43:18
Comments:
Proof that the end is near - as if we didn't already know:
http://news.excite.com/news/pr/991207/ny-steely-dan-album

Name: Edd


Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 10:38:35
Comments:
re: Mamas and Papas

...which leads us right into the less visible but no less talented "Spanky & Our Gang" with such classics as "Sunday Will Never Be The Same" and "I'd Like To Get To Know You"...


Name: aja
guilty pleasures

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 10:36:45
Comments:
Okay, I'll confess. "Magnet and Steel" makes me groove. I recently bought "Hot Hits of 1978" (with a bag over my head)just to have that one. BTW, it also has "Disco Inferno" on it.


aja


Name: JWMalibu
OD'ing on too many dominant sevenths!

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 10:35:02
Comments:
My picks for the 12 cheeziest songs of the '70s (in no particular order):

1. Nick Gilder/"Hot Child In The City" *that vocal is like fingernails on a chalkboard, someone PLEASE make him stop!*
2. Rupert Holmes/"Escape (The Pina Colada Song)" *ok, we got the hook the FIRST time!*
3. Anne Murray/"You Needed Me" aka "You Tweedled Me" *was "Snowbird" really a drug reference?*
4. Gilbert O'Sullivan/"Alone Again, Naturally" *let's make EVERY chord a major 7th!*
5. Helen Reddy/"Ain't No Way To Treat A Lady" *gag me with a coke spoon*
6. Barry Manilow/"Mandy" *originally titled "Brandy", but was beaten to the punch by the Looking Glass ("Brandy, you're a fine girl...")
7. Melanie/"Brand New Key" *the corniest sly sexual reference in the history of pop music*
8. The Captain & Tenille/"Muskrat Love" *ever seen muskrats doing the horizontal bop?*
9. Leo Sayer/"You Make Me Feel Like Dancin'" *wasn't he also a mime?*
10. Blue Suede/"Hooked On A Feeling" *oo gaa cha kaa...need I say more?*
11. Exile/"Kiss You All Over" *...and over again, thanks for sharin' ~ keep comin' back*
12. Lobo/"Me & You And A Dog Named Boo" *canine menage a' trois?*


Name: µ
*

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 10:16:07
Comments:
progeny

Name: DrMu
slow down you move too fast

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 10:13:28
Comments:
Jeez, hope some of that last post made sense - should not log on immediately before a meeting.

Edd: Have to concur about mid to late 60s pop...combination of innovation, ear candy, and professional recording. Only after I hit 30 did I really appreciate the brilliance of The Mommas and the Poppas' vocal arrangements by John Phillips.

Geena: Beat ya to it

Herm: I think that was Harry Chapin...who fathered folk melodrama. WOLD (remember that one?) and Taxi have a way of working because of their honesty when the shouldn't.

Ugh...Seasons in the Sun

"Jackie Blue" (great guitar hook) and "Don't Pull Your Love" Hamilton, Joe Frank, and Reynolds - one of the last 60s sounding pop hits of the 70s

...of course, then there's disco, the bastard porgeny of Parliament/Funkadelic...I think that George Clinton is finally getting his due respect for funk in the mainstream. Anyway, my guilty pleasure is the Trammps' Disco Inferno...one HELL of a groove...burn that mutha down!


Name: Edd
A few more I'll proudly 'fess up to...

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 10:00:06
Comments:
"The Rapper" - The Jaggerz

"Pictures Of Matchstick Men" - Status Quo

"Apple, Peaches, Pumpkin Pie" - Jay & The Techniques

"Sign Of The Times" - Pet Clark (God Bless "Tarzhay")

"Lightnin' Strikes" - Lou Christy

"Thunder and Lightning" - Chi Coltrane


Name: s
top

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 10:00:03
Comments:
!!!

Name: b
est

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 09:48:13
Comments:
.

Name: Geena
annoying songs going thru my head

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 09:43:10
Comments:
No one has mentioned "Kung Fu Fighting" or "I believe in Miracles" (or "merkels") by Hot Chocolate. Oh and we can't forget the Pina Colada song - gaggggg!!!!

Oh one more...(they keep popping into my head)...."Sylvia's Mother".....pleeeeeze!


Name: Sociable Hermit
One more thing

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 09:22:10
Comments:

"Cats In The Cradle", is another one of those I can't stand, as well as anything sung or written by Jim Croche.


And, it should say, "I now unflinchingly admit."

Later,

Herm (still transfixed)


Name: Sociable Hermit
Guilty As (Well As) Charged

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 09:17:38
Comments:

Hello Everyone,

Well, I used to be embarassed to say so, but I know unflinchingly admit to really liking most of those songs posted as "Worst Ever". "Billy, Don't Be A Hero", and others of that ilk, may indeed be pap, but the hooks on many are undeniably catchy, and they at least make me smile when I hear them. To me, there is no shame in liking them. As sugary and unsubstantial as they are, I think they provide a pretty good balance to a lot of the music I listen to. Not only that, but when I hear them, I'm transported back to my youth, if only for a few seconds, and even in that short period of time, I experience a giddy thrill. Sometimes we take things too seriously, and these songs provide a reminder to lighten up.

Now, the crap I really can't stand from that period is the cloy, overly sentimental ballads like, "Seasons In The Sun", "American Pie", etc. Oddly, you would think that I would include "Wildfire" among that list, but I don't. Something about that song...

There must be over 200 45's from the early to mid 70's in my collection, along with various K-Tel and Ronco compilations. I even bought some of the "Have A Nice Day" cd's. What can I say? I'm a sucker for bubblegum music. Not too many people can jump from Coltrane to Bobby Sherman. Well, not too many sane people, at least.

"Jackie Blue", "Jimmy Loves MaryAnne", "Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes", and "Don't Pull Your Love" Forever!!!!!

Later,

Herm (in a trance)



Name: ch
est

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 08:35:30
Comments:
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Name: David in the Florida Room
dmoore113@aol.com

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 07:45:20
Comments:
Wow! What a list of "Pap" songs you guys have compiled!
The only thing worse than listening to some of those Gems is having to have had to PLAY THEM! Yikes!
Comes with the territory when you start in a band in '68.
Another bad memory is playing "only a fool would say that" and having people yell "Zeppelin!"
makes you want to run off and write your own songs.

David


Name: Edd


Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 07:41:57
Comments:
"The Rain, The Park, And Other Things". I knew, I knew, I knew, I knew...

I couldn't POSSIBLY forget The Cowsills since I live within walking distance of Indian Lake.

The mid to late 60's may be my favorite time musically speaking.


Name: DrMu
I knew I knew I knew

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 07:09:12
Comments:
Edd: really? the wife sings flat. It's a bit of a guilty pleasure, but I prefer a similar sounding band The Cowsills (brothers and sister combo, and upscale Osmonds) especially The Rain, The Park...(The I Love the Flower Girl song). Their versionj of Hair is slick, campy, and funny. Tight harmonies and on key...

fezo, Stranger: I think his message based on moral principles and the Constitution might make some uncomfortable. The spinmeisters like Lanny Davis are already painting him as an extremist (it's sick when a moral compass and knwledge of the Bill of Rights make one and extremist...but as our children get slaughtered by other children right and left, I'm going to give him a serious look. On the stump he can rouse a crowd better than Jesse Jackson. His ability to make logical arguments off the cuff is amaizing. He may seem too divisive to be a good President, but his experience as a diplomat should have SOME diplomats.

You DO have to be nuts to want to run though. Your personal life is pieced through like a herd of anthropologists on a dig frenzy. Is that a smile of a smirk? It almost seems like the sanest guy is McCain with a Nam POW. The worst part of the debates have been by far some of the stupid and trivial question posed by the journalists


Name: t
est

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 06:34:57
Comments:
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Name: fezo
thisisthedayoftheexpandingman

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 06:16:41
Comments:
"Your Kiss Is On My List". I hear that and it's hard to believe that the same duo recorded "Abandonned Lunchenette"

Name: fezo
loveisallyouneed

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 06:12:26
Comments:
"Cousin Dupree" sounds like it should be the West Virginia state song.

Hey, Mark David Chapman, you're one year closer to hell.

Bad, bad songs: "Night Chicago Died", "You Light Up My Life"; any rap song recorded after 1990.

I can't include "Lady In Red" on my worst songs list. I fell in lust to it one hot summer and it's always brought back tremulous memories

I thought Keyes was a crank as well, but because I respect the good doctor's opinion, I'll give him another look.


Name: WasAZ
on the couch

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 05:53:51
Comments:
You know, I've often wondered how songs like "Billy, don't be a hero" and "Afternoon Delight" could have grown to be such hits, since I've never run into anyone who admitted to liking them. "Me and You and a Dog Named Boo" must be up in the top 5 worst as well.

You know, a long time ago, there was a song on Toto's first album, and for some reason when ever I heard in in my head, I could hear it as if it were being performed by Earth Wind and Fire. It was like I had the whole arrangement laid out, with the horns and everything. It was nothing like the original, which was weird because I really liked the original.

I'm sorry, Doctor, is my time up?



Name: Hank Silvers
hanksilvers@dog.com

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 05:49:46
Comments:
Some good nominees so far for worst charting song -- I'll add "Run Joey Run" and "Blind Man In the Bleachers" to the list.

Has there been any other media notice of 2vN besides the one on the Fox website?


Name: Edd


Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 03:13:58
Comments:
re: Friend and Lover

Yeah, a husband and wife duo. Charted in '68.

Actually reaches very high on my list of personal faves, along with "Tighter, Tighter" by Alive and Kicking.

I'd take a whole weekend of "Reach Out Of The Darkness" before one listen of "Freebird"...


Name: Billy
low

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 01:48:28
Comments:
Worst (charting) singles of all time:

Billy Don't Be a Hero
Clap for the Wolfman
Nothing Compares 2 U
Island Girl
You're So Vain
Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves


Name: cd apocalspse
now

Date: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 00:17:35
Comments:
just visited CD NOW for an update and made use of their "Album Advisor" facility. Evidently if you like SD you are also into The Eagles, Graham Parker and the Dixie Chicks. Say it isn't so (or have Don&Walt sabotaged the thing?).

Name: To accept the
Award

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 23:52:04
Comments:
...for worst pop song of the millenium ...lets let her sing it on more time... O.K.... all together now... IIIIEEEIIIIII WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOUUUUUEEEEUEUEUEUUUU WILL ALWAYS LOVE (at this point the stage is rushed by an angry mob who attempt to crush her but somehow she emerges from the chaos, grabs back the mike and...)YOUUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEUUUUEEEEUUUUUEEEEUUUUU WILL ALWAYS LOVE (mortal fire from somewhere in the bleachers... but nothing can stop her , not even a key change ) AND IIIIIIEEEEIIII ...
(this makes Bobby Brown look good)!

Name: KD
Robie

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 23:30:06
Comments:
my dad used to put on Roberta Flack when

A) he wanted people to leave his place after a party
B) once they left, heheh...


Name: Bodacious Cowgirl
We Ain't Comin' Out

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 23:15:26
Comments:
I'd have to go with 'Afternoon Delight', or 'Achy Breaky Heart', I read the FBI played that one over and over at full volume when they were trying to get the people out of the Branch Davidian.

Andy--cool site!

Enjoyed the 'Aja' interpretations.

Your fellow lefty,
BC


Name: GB
really fine print

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 23:07:41
Comments:
first single is cousin dupree

space radio single called "what a shame about me"

reallybye


Name: GnusBoy
fineprint@newsweep

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 23:04:57
Comments:


okbye.
GB


Name: TheStranger
2 million mississippians can be very wrong

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 21:22:33
Comments:
Roy Scam,
'Killing me softly' is worse than a splinter under your fingernail. And to raise the irony, it was written about that 'Bye by miss American Pie' guy who wrote THE most annoying song of the last 100 years.

Dr. Mu,
I have read Keyes is nuts. The little I've heard from him talking makes him sound intelligent. But you have to be nuts to run for president. Isn't he a right-wing zealot? Does he want to imprions women who have abortions, sell guns to maniacs, and establish a U.S. religion? Did you know that the huge $335-million ship McCain talks about that is being built for the Navy even though the Navy doesn't want it is being built in Mississippi courtesy of that slimeball trent lott who spread the rumor McCain is nuts?

Geena,
So nu?


Name: JWMalibu
*

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 21:09:58
Comments:
"Lady in Red" by Chris DeBurgh (sp)...most annoying song of all time!

Name: DrMu
...and the weiner is
Location: never got a dinner,
Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 20:40:25
Comments:
Señor Scam: I nominate "Kung Fu Fighting" and "Billy, Don't Be a Hero."

Name: DrMu
back here where i kneed ya
Location: Kottersville,
Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 20:36:21
Comments:
Lovin' Spoonful - you've gotta be fuckin' kidding?!...Viking funeral/invasion on the East River - either Rudy will arrest them as homeless, or they'll be mistaken for Earth, Wind, and Fire roadies

Name: Roy.Scam
nose.all.sieze.all

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 20:22:36
Comments:
"Reach Out In the Darkness" by Friend and Lover. -- A leading contender (along with "Killing Me Softly") for most annoying pop song of the millenium, [except, of course, for the one I wrote for the GB Compilation project.]

See also a recent commercial with Randy Newman singing his song "I'm Different" from the Trouble In Paradise" album. Not surprisingly , he refrains from singing the line , " ...ain't gonna play your God-damned game.".

R.I.P Charlie B. & Madeline K.,

RS


Name: Geena
blabblab

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 20:18:10
Comments:
Ok, now I remember, the name of the group was "Friend and Lover" and the song came out in 1968 (damn, i was a baby then).

How am I doing Edd?

Really really going now!


Name: Geena
and blahblahblah

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 20:13:29
Comments:
The song is called "Reach out in the Darkness" or as we used to call in "freak out in the darkness. So sue me I was a teenager then. Hell, if I can remember who sang it.


Okay, I'm really going to bed now.....


Name: WasAZ
@IL

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 19:54:37
Comments:
Betty from Tulsa - Thank you very much. I'm familiar with the commercial you mention, and I now have that damn song stuck in my head. Really appreciate it.

No, I don't know who did it. But, unlike you, I will still sleep tonight, knowing in my heart that I did the right thing by NOT including possible game show winnings in my retirement plan.

Vegas...some will gamble, some will not.

Makes it tough to get everyone together for a group photo, eh?


Name: We'll be right back
after this quick message

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 19:32:40
Comments:

Help me out. There is a commercial with a song, obviously from the 60's-early 70's, with a lyric of, "I think it's kinda groovy now, that everybody's gettin' together." What the hell is the name of that song, and who is the group? I've heard it before, a long time ago, but I can't remember. Someone please help me. I've used up all my lifelines, and now Regis is staring at me, demanding an answer.


Betty from Tulsa


Name: Geena
blahblahblah

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 18:57:02
Comments:
Stranger: oops! i made un petite faux pas, No, the joke is not you, i just forgot. i'm sorry, will you ever forgive me? i'll send it tomorrow, i promise!

Roy: it's not cold here and i'm worried.

Anyone: How do i put my name of the list for this GB cd? and where is this website where i can hear it?

Ole: Thanks for sending me the site. Maybe someday, but not in the near future, "the second arrangement" will happen and another trip to Russia will be made.


Name: DrMu
serf's up

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 17:58:54
Comments:
bigotry

Name: DrMu
serf-ing the net

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 17:57:32
Comments:
Stranger: There was one man, ignored by the mainstream press and pundits...assumed to be out of the horse race, not backed by Daddy or his buddies $$, but himself a fervent backer of the Consitution with the ultimate academic NOT family pedigree, a man with ultimate character, whose oratory and debate skills made it look like Michael Jordan playing pickup with the Virginia Tech roundball team. That man was Alan Keyes. He had some absolutely priceless lines last night...damn entertaining.

Why is he ignored by the mainstream? a) he happens to be African-American (the biotry is worse in the media than in the Republican party I'm beginning to think with "pitchfork Pat" gone) and b) he won't kow-tow to the pseudo-intellectual media and special interest groups. But the avg. TV viewer is starting to notice that the partially digested and selective menu which is thrown down the throats of mom and pop by Peter Jennings and the like is a crock of shit. They realize that the debate was exciting with a CLEAR winner. Indeed, former evil genius Dick Morris has taken his own poll of 40,000 voters via the internet and the people saw the debate winner as:
Keyes - 59%
W - 21%
McCain - 14%

I may not agree with all of Keyes views, but he's the only guy who I would pay to see debate Walter and Donald head to head(s).

W looked better than the NH debate and did his homework )or at least he memorized the crib seets better - has a way to go to overcome the "empty suit" critique. The tax relief plan is farily solid, though.

McCain was a poster child against "distance learning", there only virtually via satellite. I like McCain, but the idiot advisor who came up with the idea for "call me John" not to show up in his own state, is certainly reading the want-ads at this moment.

...just 2 shadows of the men that we once knew...


Name: If I
ever

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 17:06:55
Comments:
need a Steely Dan-themed Myst computer game, I'll know who to run to.

Name: KD
freddddieee

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 15:54:49
Comments:
Truman=Missourah
Bradley=Missourah

oh yeah


Name: TheStranger
No time to read board lately

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 15:49:31
Comments:
Clas,
'Let's Face the Music and Dance' could well be Diana Krall, who's recorded it fairly recently. Tall, sexy blond, plays piano and sings jazz.

Geena,
Where's the joke? And don't say it's me.

This George W. Bush. Man, is he dumb and unimpressive. What the hell's going on here? Where are the Abe Lincolns and Harry Trumans?


Name: JWMalibu
*

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 14:00:06
Comments:
The Release Party/Las Vegas ~ I'm open for any dates except for 2/12-2/20 (surf trip to Maui) & 4/12-4/16 (snowboarding in Whistler, BC)...the closer to the release date, the better!

Midnite ~ Your tape arrived today, excellent! I'm going to assume that it is the last submission and go ahead and consolidate this puppy...

Regarding comments on the trustworthiness of hard-disk recording and digital workstations: my Roland VS has NEVER even burped in 400+ hours of recording on it...but I try to backup my ongoing projects just the same. On the other hand, my Win 98 machines CONSISTENTLY lock up on processor-intensive digital recording (Cubase VST, etc.) as well as graphics software with heavy render times such as Bryce 4. All you can really do is save the shit out of your work as you go - in a redundant fashion, and watch your fixed drives for signs of trouble. The techies at work keep telling me that NT would solve all my problems...

I've been working on a Bryce 4 project which I began when we were discussing "Aja" a few weeks back. It's far from finished, but I've got four preliminary renders posted. It attempts to capture some of the serenity of "Aja", a place I'd love to run to when all MY dime dancing is through...Hope you enjoy 'em!

www.thekatbox.com/casellastudio/aja.htm

JDubs


Name: price of
fame

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 13:03:12
Comments:
I know what happened with the hall of fame. Walter arrived with this mustachioed guy in tow and offened the people that matter. Donald was furious.

Name: aja
dance on the bones til the grrls say when!

Date: Tuesday, December 7, 1999 at 13:02:18
Comments:
Miz Ducky-I'm with you! I think Vegas Danfest should be close to the time of the release. We'll be that much more festive. Whatevah-if you're already there, th