Name: oleander
Dandom ON THE AIR!!
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 23:08:04
Comments:
hoops!--you are THE GREATEST. I am already addicted to "This is hoops!" Now I will NEVER get any work done.
Seattlites--hope no significant damage to you all. Check in so we know all's OK.
lp--nice Brubeck report; sorry I didn't get to tell you before Lent!
LB--anxiously awaiting bookstore tips. Say, I read "satyrs" too. Did you see hooves under those black shirts & jax at the Grammys?
Mr LaP--yo there.
Chips--I love it when you're verbose (ie > 3 words).
BF--great linx as usual. Fingers crossed for you to win those tix to the HOF induction, and vicarious magical dreaming!
dog--great Seussism.
Herm, KD--very well said. There is really no reasoning with them; come to think of it, there's often no reasoning with me either. Needling them seems kind of silly.
GE--Thanx for Storytellers link. Now I can get those first few minutes on tape I swore through as I fumbled with the VCR last time.
Not My Grumpy Old Man--Did you see or read Amy Tan's "Joy Luck Club"? I'm like the mother of the girl who was a chess prodigy--she used to walk down the street displaying her daughter's TIME cover picture in a plastic bag. I feel that way about acclaim for the Dan, so forgive my maternoid pride. And CLEAN UP YOUR LAWN!
dano--hilarious.
negative girl--Gomer says hello.
Name: hoops@dandom.com
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 21:31:48
Comments:
A few more notes...
* Glad St Al, Ducky and everyone else is ok in Seattle.
* Thanks for the feedback on the Radio Free Dandom (RFD). Aside from the 32 kbps , a variable bandwidth version through live365 and another service owened by AOL is in the works. I'll keep you posted...let me know if you have other comments and concerns--they are appreciated.
* Happy Ash Wednesday everyone...
h
Name: really hoops
hoops@dandom.com
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 21:22:27
Comments:
Earlier I saw "Lucky Henry" 's post that
"...our local promoter has a book DATE for the boy's summer tour? at the same place as last time!???"
Well, I couldn't help myself--it really got me going! So...I only Lucky Henry I know...Hank Chapman in Philly! Did I mention it's 11 PM here in Chi-land but Midnight in Philly?
Geez...I'm so embarrassed...didn't mean to wake you!
P.S. Everyone. The Lucky Henry who posted today wasn't the one I woke up...oh well. Sorry...
I wonder if the show is for real...last week's radio chats would suggest otherwise as we all know.
h
Name: Floridavid
dmoore113@aol.com
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 20:12:29
Comments:
So Glad that Miz Ducky and St Al and Company are OK.
Name: angel
Any Major Dude w/half a heart surely will tell you my friend
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 20:02:24
Comments:
My best wishes go out to you St. Al and Mz Ducky. As
one who has lived through these events, it is not fun.
Especially the aftershocks. It does get better after
the first week or so. The first week, the earth feels
like it is alive. Scary!
GE: Thanks for the Storytellers
information. I never
got to see that one. Have only heard about it.
Looks like I'm going to the HOF
Danfest, Yahoo! I didn't
think I could, do to work commitments and jury duty. The
situation got better and I am now clear to attend.
Possible Tour? Interesting what a difference 4 grammys make.
I too would like to acknowledge
the fact that tomorrow is
the anniversay of 2VN. My life has not been the same.
Thanks Donald and Walter for bringing music back to my life.
Any minor world that breaks apart falls together again....
Name: GW
Mr. Big Stuff
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 19:58:13
Comments:
Rush Limbaugh is now using a snippet of "Cousin Dupree" as he comes out of commercial breaks. What's next - "Turn that Heartbeat Over Again" to underscore Dick Cheney's official duties?
Name: GE
Finally!!
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 19:26:32
Comments:
VH-1 is finally going to re-play the Steely Dan Storytellers Show. I would like to think they would have done this even if the Boys hadn't won a little award or four. Should be a nice warm up for the RRHOF festivities. On a little late, but what the Hell.....
http://www.vh1.com/insidevh1/shows/storytellers/steely_dan_051.jhtml
Are you peeking LP?
GE
Name: Update on SD site!
radio free dandom!!
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 18:33:36
Comments:
From looking on the site guide, it looks like the only new stuff is Hoops radio (this is really awesome!) and a new FAQ.
Name: Midnite Cruiser
http://listen.to/Jim
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 17:41:33
Comments:
St.Al & MizD....glad to see our two Seattle residents came through the quake in good physical and mental health. Looked pretty scary on CNN. Hope the aftershocks come at a bare minimum.
So there is a possibility of a tour this year??? I'm working 12 hour shifts today and tomorrow so forgive me if I don't read all the posts.
be back on Black Friday....Greenspan's still the man.
Name: GB wire
Giant killers
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 17:29:57
Comments:
re: the bottom line
Steely Dan possibly affected by Warner behind the scenes shopping spree. Big Brother eyeing both Maverick and Giant:
http://www.q4music.com/news/DisplayNews.cfm?ObjectUUID=94099169-0D8D-11D5-9CEA000629DEBDC3
Sajak: Alright, let's give the
wheel a final spin
Vanna: Big Money, Big Money!
Name: Lucky Henry
say's
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 16:43:24
Comments:
Just heard on the radio that our local promoter has a
book DATE for the boy's summer tour? at the same place as
last time!???
Name: DrMu
shakerattleNroll
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 15:51:55
Comments:
Whoa, 6.8 St.Al and Miz D. The Needle was built to sway, except the design was related to the wind wasn't it??
Is that Bill Gates' outhouse??
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/02/28/northwest.quake.03/index.html
Name: ||||
dang
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 15:05:23
Comments:
premature post submission... meant to write "Weren't the 80's fun, though?"
Name: ||||||
Weren't the 80
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 15:04:07
Comments:
Sociable Hermit - I really enjoyed your essay. I submit that I no longer have a Culture Club poster on my wall nor to I think that Simon LeBon is "Awesome!". I do, however, on occasion listen to my Police and Bowie records,
Name: D.J. Mitch
@ WJAZ , Mt. Belzoni
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 14:15:57
Comments:
Feb. 29,2000 The much anticipated release of 2NV.........My thoughts one year later......It`s not AJA, but very good, it definitely picks up where Gaucho left off......20 years later. A nod by the Rock Hall, and Grammy sweep has moved the concept to mainstream America......Danfans not comfortable with insider status, having been outside The Loop for 30 years.....The media is very ignorant of previous works and of the personalities.......This spring will be interesting with the induction ceremony ,fueling SD interest.
Name:
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 13:47:39
Comments:
Diane are you there?
Name: Miz Ducky
Seattle, land of earthquakes and street riots
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 13:20:16
Comments:
Heh. Well, that was interesting. Can you say "kicked anthill?" I thought you could.
Whole bunch of Microsofties bolting for the door, yours truly included. Interesting wave motion keeps on under the parking lot for a good 60 seconds, off and on. Go back in, the network's still up and the computers running. Back to the saltmines!
/the Mam'zelle
reporting no fearsome excavation around here, far as she can see
Name: aaaaaah too
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 13:01:03
Comments:
Gates stuck, but not on Space Needle.
Name: aaaaaaaaaaaah
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 12:51:00
Comments:
7oh and some splattered latte at Stirfucks.
Name: Edd
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 12:47:14
Comments:
In case this wasn't posted...
http://www.musicplayer.com/CDA/Player/Main/1,2228,Features-Keyboardist-5141505,00.html
Name:
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 12:44:00
Comments:
N'Sync? Hall of Fame? What the...
Name: BF
still@work
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 12:17:18
Comments:
St.Al, SueDave - you guys OK? - I was just talking to someone at Boeing and they said Seattle had a big earthquake today - 6.2 or higher - that's some serious shaking.
Name: BF
@work
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 12:12:27
Comments:
Look who's not Steely Dan's #1 fan - I love that quote:
http://www.salon.com/people/col/reit/2001/02/28/npwed/index.html
'N Sync to play at the RRHOF
inductions; too bad they couldn't get M&M:
http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusic/feb28_tribute-ap.html
Dang, I was caller 5 once yesterday and caller 11 today. Caller 10 gets their name put into a drawing for 4 tickets to the RRHOF inductions. Radio station says they are worth $1500 apiece. I'm still trying.
Melts in your mouth, not in your hands.
Name: StAlphonzo
stalfnzo@seanet.com
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 11:50:06
Comments:
Whole lotta shakin going on! YEE HAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Name: DrMu
It'srainin'allovertheworld
Location: showdown, Hoedown
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 11:48:38
Comments:
Blaise: ELO peaked with Eldorado and maybe Face the Music. Everything from New World Record on is for my evil twin only...
Name: tones & Gillian...
1st the good news...
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 11:46:48
Comments:
77% physical compatibility - whoo-hoo! I *knew* it!
33% emotional compatibility - well, we can work on that...
now the bad news...
4% intellectual compatibility - Doh! Better get back to school, even though it makes my brain feel funny...
yearnin' and learnin'
tones
Name: Boston Rag
Happy Anniversary 2vn!
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 11:17:00
Comments:
One year ago today/tomorrow (hard to celebrate a leap year anniversary) we were tearing the shrink wrap off 2vN. I couldn’t get the CD into my player fast enough! What a year for Donald and Walter! Thanks for all the joy you brought us the past 12 months!
Also, they say behind every great man, there’s a great woman. A big thanks to Libby Titus for changing Donald (and Walter) from an under-achiever in the 80’s to the driving force they are now!
(Ok , I’ll probably get slammed for that last remark)
Mark in Boston
Name: Aus
@work
Location: NYC, NY USA
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 11:08:01
Comments:
Earthquake strikes Pacific Northwest including
Portland....hope our friends on the left coast are ok....
LadyB, NMN, YGK: In a good mood for whiskeys tonight...should be fun.
Clas: Was the link helpful??
'daaaaaaaaaano'?: We'll raise our rock glasses tonight up to you man cub?
From a disenchanted floor...(oh, the humanity!)
Aussie
Name: Gina
Silly, sillier, silliest
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 10:42:45
Comments:
Ash Wednesday, yes, here they drink what's left of the barrels beer and have pickled hareng with it and still listen to the daft music they've been dancing to for days!
In that fine tradition I herby offer something even sillier, handed by a TV Guide. Find your match among the celebrities, see if you wind up being compatible with your fav movie star or singer LOL
http://www.celebmatch.com/
Banyan Tree Shake to the Flake
Bow,
Gdot
Name: Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 09:58:24
Comments:
I was wondering why I was in such a somber mood...then it hit me. Ash Wednesday, the beginning of the period of reflection. I know that it's been said that the unexamined life is not worth leading, but I'm not sure I'm ready for the examination. Hey, I missed the Mardi Gras party yesterday...aren't I owed a little frolicking before I start the introspection?
Anybody think it'll matter that much if I start lent a day later than everyone else?
Dr. Mu, and everyone else who's posted about childhood/adolescent listening patterns...I grew up with my Dad listening to Glenn Miller incessantly--he's quite a collector; GM is his Dan--and hated GMO while growing up. Now, every once in awhile, I find myself putting on one of their cds, or an Andrews sisters cd. But as a kid, I listened to WABC NY AM radio, and WNBC--Imus was on back then. They played Steely Dan, along with everything under the sun, so I luckily was introduced to the Boys early. I did have a very embarrassing in retrospect Adam Ant phase in Jr High School, but hey, I was 13. Go figure. I listened to everything from Elvis Costello to the Pretenders to early Genesis...there's not a whole lot I haven't listened to at one time or another, but I can at least be proud of my Dan leanings. *Adam Ant is a period best forgotten. Don't even ask about the parachute pants and double looped belt.*
Well, I am having drinks with Aus, YGK and NMN this evening, so I guess I'll consider that my Mardi Gras celebration. The soul searching begins tomorrow.
Lady B
Name: Gina
Credits go to Aja
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 09:32:28
Comments:
For the Kid Charlemagne Braden version ... she heard it in her car once and sent us this nifty little message saying she heard it, smiles in every move of her dime dance routine on these Banyan Trees!!!
later perhaps,
Gdot
Name: ~
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 09:15:09
Comments:
herm - it's sometimes hard seperating the fad and fodder from the real mccoy early on
although Costello's contibutions
were evident from the start
he's growth was rapid
Watching the Detectives indeed
who knows what of today's music will grow, evolve and maintain it's musical dignity long after the fads are over
Name: jimbo
@home
Location: Not in Annadale,
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 09:06:36
Comments:
BREAKING NEWS
Two Against Nature re-enters the Billboard chart at 54, selling
more than 32,000 last week.
Check out the news at http://www.billboard.com
It's a start:)
Name: Sociable Hermit
One more thing...
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 08:58:39
Comments:
Hey,
I wasn't apologizing for listening to or liking Elvis Costello. I was drawing the comparison of who I felt strongly about back then to who a kid of similar age felt strongly about now. Later on in my long-winded essay, I think I even said that I believed he was an important factor in music. I would never apologize for Elvis. Except maybe, the disparaging remark he once drunkenly uttered about Ray Charles. And, possibly, his albums of the late 80's/most of the 90's, (after "Blood & Chocolate), when he switched labels to Warner Bros.
That said, I'm going to the recycling center to scrounge up all of the pennies I can to buy me some 'shrooms. Hope these ones are good ~ the ones growing in my rain-soaked backyard have so far only given me mild stomachaches. If all works out, maybe later I will check back in and have something favorable to say about Eminem. (Wow, hallucinations, and I haven't even scored yet! Bonus!)
Later,
Herm
Name: The truth
will set you free
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 08:48:46
Comments:
Heard a good big-band version of Kid Charlemagne on my local jazz station today. It's off a new album by Don Braden called Contemporary Standards Ensemble. Their arrangement was very good, similar to the Hoops McCann Band or Woody Herman takes from all those years ago..
Name: ygk
..
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 08:48:40
Comments:
in chat 11:50AM EST
Name: KD
nbatalk.com
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 08:23:13
Comments:
soundalikes: "Jack of Speed," and Stevie Winwood's "Hold On."
Name: Gina
Smacked into a trance
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 07:46:07
Comments:
or sick to the bone, couldn't help it, the remastered Pretzel lured me into the store and made me take it home! who's to resist that kind of logic? am not disloyal to my vinyl friends, this just "a bird in flight that won't quit on me"
hi wormman ~~~~
everyone else lurking ...
hi blaise, i'll just start reading Hannah's essays on freedom & friendship
from the beginning, must be a reason why the authors saved the best for last
:-)
some Fagenini and Beckerhoven on Through With Buzz ...?
out of here again, got potatoes waiting for me to undress them and make them take a hot bath to smoothen the bite, haha!
Banyan Tree Have a Pretzel Bow,
Gina
Name:
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 07:39:44
Comments:
chat anyone?
Name: wormy
~~-~-~~-~-~~-~-~~-~-~~
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 07:24:30
Comments:
back from a 5 day Mardi Gras weekend
stuck to the tamer side this time
things were rather festive
hey Blaise - no lent on this end
and a c but not a cc
hey LP - I'll give you a week
tops on the gb distraction
does that include simple lurking?
TWM - don't the brits usually get it right?
StevieDan - I can see you vividly playing the Hi Fidelity gig with TaN in the shop
Aja enjoyed those wedding song stingers
but if they knew this going in
Timmy G - clever
Altimira - good luck in the new job
JW - looks like an interesting compilation
wormy
do you have a dark spot on your past?
Name: "dano"
why is it??
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 07:03:59
Comments:
Every film on the TV lately has the boys on the soundtrack , never really noticed it until this week??
Aus , MNM slagging the boys off at the Brits last night as YGK says I can imagine a rake of 14 year olds trying to find out who are Steely Dan, well captured son ??
lp, take care can you still use your e-mail??
One last thing , If all you Americans get a tax refund can we have the Danfest transferred from Noo Awlins to Scotland??
See you later rich guys. "daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaano"
Name: angel
Show biz kids making movies of themselves
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 06:49:24
Comments:
Thanks for the info last night JW and Ducky. I had to do
bed duties for the little one, so I was in a bit of a hurry.
Could you tell, no time for caps or anything. Gee,
maybe I should go to the M&M site. :-)
Appreciate your helping me out.
L.A. Times has the article on the
Brits. Just the same
quote about "who the fuck is Steely Dan". Record sales
figures come out today.
More rain today, time to break out the ark?
you know they don't give a fuck about anybody else....
Name: Gimsley Tonedeath
for Timmy
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 06:43:04
Comments:
to do list since winning the grammys
12) politely tell Larry King to
fuck off, no interview
11) don't answer the suite door
even if it's Elton singing "Love Lies Bleeding"
10) have management send an apology to Stevie Wonder real quick for scuffing
his shoes
9) replay the tape, with the smug expression on Eminem's face right before the
cold reality sets in
8) keep the recording engineer posse busy before someone else snatches them
away
7) write a new ditty on Cousin Dupree's fits during lent
6) send out those stale boxes of Swedish Cookies to the Academy judges
5) replenish the honey mustard case used in wee hours body smearing orgy
4) slap anyone with a wet rolled up towel who comes close
to touching those grammies
3) call Giant and ask for a bigger suite at the HOF deal
2) decline the morning show circuit
1) get out of that rented suit pronto
Name: christopher
kurt-black@hotmail.com
Location: toledo, oh usa
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 06:40:47
Comments:
hey
Name: Aussie
@work
Location: NYC, NY USA
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 06:33:42
Comments:
Clas: Here's a link which will give you a listing of all
YMCAs in NYC (addresses and telephone numbers):
http://yp.yahoo.com/py/ypResults.py?stx=ymca&stp=a&tab=&city=New+York&state=NY&zip=10003&country=us&slt=40.731098&sln=-73.990097&cs=5
Aus
Name: Blaise
cued up
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 06:01:48
Comments:
Entry: Steely Dan
Latest added layers of meaning:
- An eleven-inch dildo who paly second fiddle(and body double) to Jim Carey in
Me, Myself and Irene.
- The equivalent of Keiser Soze in NYC's gangsta rap underworld.
- A 70s bent recent SD tribute band.
- An excuse for personal, out of left field, unrelated online rants.
Name: Q
Down in Tampa........
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 05:46:23
Comments:
Who the fuck is Steely Dan ?
Name: Blaise
lent repent event sent decent cogent contingent?
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 05:31:14
Comments:
LP? Wormy? Clas? Gina?
My gawd... we lost the whole Chrstian Coallition...
Howard, help!
Name: Blaise
Eloed early on
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 03:57:29
Comments:
The real Expanding Man? - Don't worry, there is a tradition of Canadian doubles. Canadian Razor Boy and Canadianjive Miguel are the most illustrious. We've grown used to canadians blatantly rip off others around here. We tolerate it in the spirit of Lent.
Gina - I can talk about the first and last one. Those were part of books I read in the past. I would start with the last one which is interesting as a sort of bio trying hard to feign a certain distance yet sympathizing. Talk to you later about it...
MU - I thought I heard early ELO. Not the "Out of The Blue" period? If so, then you can be my long lost pal and you can call me Al.
Big Wheels turning
Baby, I know
later then
Name: The Other Exp. Man
Munccoor@fox.nstn.ca
Location: Halifax,
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 03:30:45
Comments:
Expanding Man in Barrytown: were you here first with that nick? I've only been using it the last week or so. One of us might need to come up with a new one.
Good comments on the 14 uear-old mentality. To them SD is unquestionably a relic of the past, totally off the radar. Will always be so from that perspective regardless of the acclaim. Nothing anyone can do about that.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 19101 at 03:05:27
Comments:
Thanx dr Mu, we can have them just in case, save them. By the way doc, have you heard of a contra-bassplayer, Ray Brown?
LP - nooo, Chase the Dragon? Opium? No way honey. And you, may I ask you a question?
Aussie - is the YMCA still there on 32 or 33rd street, near Madison Square Garden?
Mr La Page - where have you been? At the movies?
Wedding song - the problem is that the guys seldom make any "true" love-songs, IF they do a lovesong (lyrics) they dissociate themselves from the the subject (as they do in every song). So if I had to make a choice it would be "Fortunate Song", Bruce Hornsby.
C
Name: Miz Ducky
out of chat but can drop back in
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 21:51:08
Comments:
Steely Pete--if you're still around, all you have to do to enter the chat thang is click on that little link at the top of the Guestbook page that sez "chat"--the instructions will walk you through signing on and the rest.
Oh yeah--I got my MDiv in 1989 from BU School of Theology. I got my undergrad degree from Harvard/Radcliffe in 1979. I mostly lived in and around Boston between those two academic milestones too.
/the Mam'zelle
sweet thing from Bahston?!?
Name: DrMu
downdowndown
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 21:23:38
Comments:
Churchill
Name: DrMu
eatingasteakbeforemidnight
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 21:22:52
Comments:
night
Name: DrMu
just.a.word.in.Mr.Churhill's.ear
Location: Marcus Welby, MD
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 21:21:12
Comments:
Herm: You should never have to apologize for Elvis
Costello. A string of solid albums from My Aim is True through Armed Forces
through Imperial Bedroom and Blood and Chocolate, King of America to Spike he had
a knack for classic American pop songwriting style as in 30s through 50s
filtered into a Johnny Rotten/Dylan Thomas integrated circuit. Don't see
M&M displaying the intelligence and tunesmithmanship (from the Howard
Cosell lexicon) of Alison, Chelsea, Pump it Up, Radio Radio, Man Out of Time,
Oliver's Army, Green Shirt, Red Shoes, Every Day I Write th Book Satellite,
Veronica and on and on. Maybe he ran out of steam after the collaboration with
Sir Paul fell by the wayside (My Brave Face is as enjoyable as some of the best
of their songs). Because he's a stylist, I did not fathom the power of
Costello's vocals until I saw him live. Incredible!
Just got back from a late hinght grocery run. The McDoobies I Know Your Made That Way and Fagen's New Frontier were piped in on cue. To seque - had checked out the midnight run of the Doobie story Sun aslo. The McDonald/Skunk rift was news to me. It tickles me though. Skunk and SD parted since Skunk wanted to hit the road more - and we know what D&W thought of touring in the 70s. Then with the Doobies, they're touring out the wazoo, but the experimentation he enjoyed being a part of on Countdown to Ecstasy was squelched or attempted to by MM. The jazzy licks on Your Made That Way fot me thinkin'. Other may disagree but I think Skunk was right. One Step Closer (recorded after Skunk quit) and MM's solo efforts are much blander. Perhaps MM had his best songwriting days behind him...but there's something about building a confort zone that is the antithesis to creativity.
Name: S.P.
sab
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 21:08:35
Comments:
lp --- i hope you are still lurking in cyberspace. i like to suggest an alternative to giving up on surfing with fellow dan-fans: just find the easiest thing you can give up on and breathe. anyway, 40 days and 40 nites are a long time. just put in my 2 cents.
Name: angel
I'm working on Gospel time these days...
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 21:00:04
Comments:
Bye L.P., we're gonna miss you. Sob....
My choice for music to dance with
my father at a wedding:
"On The Dunes". Slow and really lovely.
Truly great, when that horn comes in toward the end.
Almost Gothic: I know I am
probably totally out in left
field here, but I truly believe that Donald wrote it to
Libby. (Little Eva meets the Bleecker Street Brat)
I still love that song. My number 2 favorite after Jack
of Speed.
Herm: Yes, it is really raining
here. Thank goodness
I don't commute by car.....
Sorry I don't have the URL on the
Times article, when
I posted it was 5:30A. Just can't deal with it at that
hour. I leave the web stuff the the big guys. Help
me out here Mu and BF. Thanks.
she's almost gothic and I like it like that...
Name: S.P.
s.a.b.
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 20:57:44
Comments:
Miz Ducky --- how can i do that? btw, you were graduate of B.U.? I lived in Boston bet'n 84 and 86.
Name: Miz Ducky
boys and girls, come out to play
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 20:52:54
Comments:
Come hang out in chat with me?
/the Mam'zelle
celebrating svelte Tuesday
Name: Steely Pete
3 jobs@Eastern Shore, MD
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 20:47:33
Comments:
Happy Shrove Tuesday to those who observe it! I decided not to eat pancake supper this year. Instead, me and my wife went for two luscious lobsters from Fisherman's (a local deal). Happy, happy!
Alta--- congrats on your new job! How's traffic in Rockville -- terrible, I guess. No one makes the traffic interesting up there, IMO. On an earlier post, indeed not all Christians observe Lent. Fundies (fundamentalists --- Jerry Falwell's disciples) do not; I guess because Jesus die for (and save just) them everyday and they hate and/or are totally ignorant of the Church Calendar thingy. BUT THEN I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO CALL THEM CHRISTIANS --- PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMOPHOBIC, WOMEN-HATERS AND DOWNRIGHT UN-JESUSLIKE!
Peter (ready for bed)
Name: looeez
Too many windows open - sorry!
Location: Daytwah,
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 20:03:22
Comments:
YGK - missed ya this a.m. Flurry of activity and forgot to close window. Next
time....
Peace & Dan
loo
Name: lp
shit, spoke too soon
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 20:01:37
Comments:
that's lunch in chicago
st al, you are the monitor - sister mary al
Name: lp
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 20:00:29
Comments:
signing off until after easter folks
aus says i get no cutting and pasting
i have to buy lunch for Green Earring if i don't make it
but i do get to keep my email (still down though)
no posting under my handle(s)
Chips is repenting too, he feels bad for everything he's done
kisses and hugs
off to see the sun
Name: DrMu
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 19:45:39
Comments:
JW: that was tubular
Name: JWMalibu
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 19:38:11
Comments:
Doc ~ no, that was me :)~
Name: Expanding Man
danmanfan@aol.com
Location: Barrytown,
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 19:15:50
Comments:
The more I listen to "Almost Gothic", the more it becomes one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard ("Deacon Blues" will FOREVER reign as #1). This type of tune seems so out of character for B&F, yet on the other hand, when you've come to expect the unexpected from these two geniuses, nothing surprises you anymore. FOllowing "Janie Runaway" on the disc, it makes for one helluva massive one/two punch......By the way, what's that other guy's name - Enima? Enemy? UmaThurm? M&M? More important.......who cares? Way to go, Walt & Don...........
Name: Hank
what would Tom Lehrer do?
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 19:06:37
Comments:
KD: From the POV of the Hawks GM:
Time to take a new approach /
Gonna trade for Toni Kukoc /
If we don't win, gonna hire me a new coach
Y'know...?
Name: KD
nbatalk.com
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 18:56:11
Comments:
lp- naw, I don't want to get any angrier, see, I can't think of a good word that rhymes with "Kukoc."
Herm- XRT was great, I don't listen to it now, but I grew up on that. The earliest I remember was mid-80s, lots of Costello and other good stuff, and my parents remember listening to it in the 70s when it was a Spanish station until midnight, then it would cross over to the current format.
14 for me was probably my angriest, roughest music period. Before I got into blues to take the edge off. I think that's why I never got into the self-loathing 90s crap music, all the anonymous corporate rock bands that came after the initial early 90s wave. No Matchbox Third Eyed Creeds, or whatever.
14 was my usual diet of classic rock, but a lot of Replacements, Afghan Whigs, Queen, Pumpkins. The only Steely Dan I consistently listened to, 2-3 times a month, was Pretzel Logic. Knew all the words to all the songs on Katy and Aja, but never listened to it consistently.
Also, 1994 was the year I spent half of in an institution after a bad shroom/E/burrito incident, something about trying to recover from the fact that Pete Myers was Chicago's starting off guard.
Without knowing any better, I took that lame white boy angst and let it go through the blues. I wasn't moaning and cryin', that would be even lamer, but the music itself gave me perspective and clarity, something I wouldn't have gotten through any other music. I was lucky, kids today aren't. Remember, a lot of these kids' parents grew up on MTV, so the kids shouldn't know any better. Damn shame, but not worth wasting time bemoaning or lamenting, in my opinion.
Anyone see that Doobie Brothers Behind the Music on VH1 last week? I taped it and watched it later, and I love this franchise; they make everything seem so severe, great drama where it doesn't belong.
More so than soloing style and predilection to touring, Skunk's attitude was probably thisclose from having him out of SD anyway. You don't know me, but I'm your brother...
Name: lp
is out of her meeting
Location: and, it was thw worst ever
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 18:20:17
Comments:
and is in chat 9:22 PM EST for one last foray
final fling?
Name: DrMu
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 18:14:10
Comments:
YGK: is that you Bwahaha?
Herm; KD: Well, sure...but I'm Catholic and tomorrow's lent and I'm not in Louisiana so............................................................................................take in a Bulls game and not only are you exempt from Lent, but Purgatory (Utah) as well :-)
Clas, those aren't extra dots, but Mardi Gras beads....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
What did I listen to when I was 14 (1973)? Spinners, Beatles, some group called Steely Dan, Emerson, Lake, and Palmer, Jim Croce, my Dad's Brubeck album, Tom Lehrer, The Who, early Earth Wind, and Fire, The Isleys (Who's that Lady?), Dr. Dimento on the AM, Beethoven, the O'Jays (Baskstabbers, etc.) early ELO
What did I dislike? Osmonds, Partridge Family, most of my Dad's big band stuff (not Sir Duke but Glenn Miller)
I leave you with this hand-wringing question
If you only had money for one and it was your first time.
Which do you choose.
Shrooms, or E?
SHROOMS OR E
Which is better? SHROOMS or E?
Thats the question for the day, hit me back with opinions
Name: Sociable Hermit
On the MM thing
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 17:55:47
Comments:
Hey,
Remember me? I'm the guy who said he wouldn't be around for a while.
I can't believe that I'm about to say this, but, let's be fair: we are reading the comments of a bunch of angry 11 - 14 year olds. I'm sure that back in 1978 when I was 14, (going on 15), I, too, was pissed because "Saturday Night Fever" won best album, and not "My Aim Is True", or "Nevermind The Bullocks", or whatever I was into at the time. Say all you want about this group of kids lack of sophistication, but I'm sure none of us were all that much better back then when we were riled up either. We may not think so now, because we not only tend to make ourselves sound much better in retrospect, but we also didn't have the Internet ~ which would have made our every immature and ridiculous statement public information to the world. Back then, we could vent our feelings to a much smaller group of like-minded kids and never had to worry about our syntax being scrutinized by an older generation. I can still remember feeling that Beach Boys and Elvis Presley fans, probably no more than 10 to 15 years older than me, were old farts and complete idiots. Hopefully, someday these kids will grow up and look back at all this and laugh hysterically, realizing how stupid they were. That's not to say that I now think that Elvis Costello and the Sex Pistols were passing fads ~ quite the opposite. I think they were, and still are, important factors in the music world. But, we did have a lot of crap that we ardently worshipped as well. To make my point, I submit that I currently do not visit the guest books of either Wham! or the Plasmatics. (Imagine that double-bill!) MTV has a lot to do with this, too: every word and movement of every celebrity for the length of their shelf life is monitored and issued forth as text from some religion. Kids are forced, more or less, to inhale and exhale a lot more "news" and gossip than we ever did at the same age. They hear their "heroes" getting pissed, and they attempt to emulate the same posture. We did pretty much the same thing, only our informational sources were limited to what we read on a monthly basis in rolling Stone, Creem, or Trouser Press. (Or, for those in Illinois, IE).
I guess what I'm trying to say is give the kids a break. Things are different nowadays. The reason they don't know who Steely Dan is because radio, and now video staions, is fragmented and much more narrower in scope than it was when we were kids. My station growing up was WXRT, back in Chicago. They'd play Elvis Costello, the Police, the Buzzcocks, then, the Grateful Dead, Pat Metheny, Jean-Luc Ponty, Zappa and Todd. As a listener, you learned a lot fast. It was like a musical university. It's not that way anymore, so it's no wonder kids don't know who these old fogeys are. Don't blame them because they don't have the resources to learn more. Blame them maybe for not having the inclanation, but that comes with wisdom, and wisdom comes with age. And don't blame them for a lack of musical sophistication. Blame today's radio and TV marketers, programmers, and everyone else that brain washes these poor kids on a daily basis. These kids aren't that bad ~ they're you and me from just a few years back. If you think about it, you'll begin to remember. All kids are inherently programmed to rebel against people older than them, and years from now, they'll be right where we are now, wondering the same damn things.
Time to go back in the cave. Man, is L.A. rainy in February.
Later,
Herm
Name: dog
@hydrant
Location: just pissing by,
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 17:45:47
Comments:
I do not like that Steely Dan
I do not like them, Dan I Am!
I like them less than Grateful Dead
I like them less than Mr. Ed
I do not like them in my car
I do not like them in a bar
They stink worse than a cheap cigar
Someone should smash up their guitars
I do not like them at guestbook
They're back again?
Quick! Get the hook!
I do not like that Steely Dan
Unless I'm sitting on the can
Sure as ExLax, Royal Scam!
I do not like that Steely Dan
I do not like them, Dan I Am!
Name: Lisa G
Who's buried in Lent's tomb?
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 17:36:39
Comments:
W1P-I also gave her a piece of my mind.
LP-will miss ya 'round these parts, girlfriend. See you in forty...
Alta-Hope you are enjoying your new job.
Aus-As I said before, we ought to hang in the city. When do you guys get together, and how often on a not-school night?
Par-tay on, folks. I'm going to Mardi Gras bed early tonight.
Yee. Haw.
LG
Name: lp
pop up video extraordinaire
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 16:43:19
Comments:
oh KD, come on, it's really fun, go in there, it's a hoot
it's like walking through the monkey rooms at the zoo, encased in glass and everything, stuff hanging everywhere off of branches, you won't believe it!
makes this place look like the orangerie at kew gardens - ah yes, that's the image.....
Name: W1P
wch1ispink@aol.com
Location: LA, CA
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 16:41:40
Comments:
This just in from the trailer park state that is Arizona, Steely Dan release from "Bad Music Prison":
http://www.azcentral.com/rep/front/articles/0227because.html
Oh, she has a link to her e-mail address and if you send her something she'll write you back with something like "I was wondering when the Steely Dan hate mail would start, Congrats you are the first one" She compares the Dan to Kenny Loggins and Hall & Oates.
Name: Exp. Man
munccoor@fox.nstn.ca
Location: Halifax,
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 16:18:38
Comments:
I know you wanted a SD song for the wedding but I'd nominate Donald's IGY... all those positive vibes for the future.
Greg
Name: KD
nbatalk.com
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 16:06:47
Comments:
everyone- quit picking fights with 14-year olds.
Name: fezo
feeling16again
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 16:03:46
Comments:
hot topic on Eminem board: if you had the money, would it be shrums or E?
I'm such an old fart my first thought was that "E" meant Erlanger.
Name: macca
gaucho112@hotmail.com
uk
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 15:40:55
Comments:
hey guys whats that little blond shit (dyed blond shit, sorry!), whats the web site so i can tell it how it is, m and m i think the little insignificant is called.
Name: fuckin A
you just gotta love the comments from the M&M board
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 15:08:08
Comments:
thanks for setting 'em straight over there ygk.
**i hate doz ceremonies but i
thought the perfomance was good i don't understand why he didn't win the best
album of the year awards and i thing "2 against nature" suck how
could they win this they're not even famous or good fuck to them!!!!!
bye bye lydiexxx
[fuck to them?? this is what's wrong with our country today-- our kids can't even swear correctly. ugh...]
**Steely Dan SUCKS!! love4em 2/23/01 8:36:57 AM
Steely Dan has a Song Called "Cousin Dupree" it's about a guy who wants to have sex with his cousin. It is pretty gross. No one was at the Grammys protesting them. Eminem is awesome and so SEXY!!!! I would love to have a night alone with him. I'm glad he speaks his mind.
**...I was also disappointed in
the fact that Em didn't win the Grammy.
Who knows who the hell Steely Dan is?
They haven't even put out a single in over 30 yrs!
I could be wrong, but they're obviously not important.
Of course, Em was going to be disappointed that he didn't win. Regardless of
his lyrics in the song Real Slim Shady he had to be hurt a little just as
anyone would be. Atleast he got nominated!
He seems like such a nice guy.
I live only a few hours from him and hope to meet him someday even if it is
only to see his face.
It's always exciting to see a celebrity.
**Eminem was robbed by Steely Dan, i mean he is good too but.. oh forget it, anyhow i would have prefered that grammy for Radiohead
**fuckin A... fleischa99 2/21/01 8:33:09 PM
I cant believe this shit...no album of the year for em!!! He totally deserves it too....he sold more albums that those steely dan people did.......god that pisses me off......i still love him though and his performance rocked da hizzous!!!...
Name: Aja
doing my part on Fat Tuesday
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 14:38:36
Comments:
what a perfect way to start your Lenten posting fast: a binge on the Enema site ;o)
Getting ready to eat, drink, and catch as many beads as I can!
Aja
Name: Chips
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 14:18:51
Comments:
god that was a blast - i posted as M&Mindreams - got lotsa people all riled up
but what was that language they were speaking, didn't get it......but i commented on how civilized and articulate they were and that steely dan rocks their world -
most posting i've ever done here and now i must be going
Name: ygk
More Eminem Posts.....
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 13:57:58
Comments:
"Eminem was robbed by Steely Dan!!!!!! ciro_e
2/22/01 1:00:06 PM
Eminem was robbed by Steely Dan, i mean he is good too but.. oh forget it,
anyhow i would have prefered that grammy for Radiohead"
Name: YGK
..
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 13:55:51
Comments:
Mu: While you're there at the M&M site, check out and search for Steely Dan where you can view all the posts regarding the Dan on his site.....fucking funny as hell....
ygk
Name: YGK
..
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 13:48:54
Comments:
Mu: the first response is in:
............ xo69erica69xo
2/27/01 1:43:37 PM
Do us all a favor and shut the fuck up! Thank you!
ygk
Name: DrMu
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 13:44:01
Comments:
to
Name: DrMu
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 13:43:39
Comments:
YGK: That was fun. Have to tune in of "jml2621: Who are these guys" thread later to observe the hate mail.
Name: Miz Ducky
What is the opposite of Lent?
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 13:35:02
Comments:
Anyone want to come play with me in Chat?
/the Mam'zelle
Name: Gina
Not for sale
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 13:06:20
Comments:
Was gone for the day as in cross country at dangerous hours, no traffic jams however and loads of books in the back of the van. Even when I'm not @home on friendly terms with the computer, there's always something that reminds me of the "other" world and the reality beneath the bits & bytes.
Found three books that look like they have never really been read and amazement, well, I'm quite beyond all of that in these sinc-y days :-)
First, a book by Hannah Arendt, a collection of some of her work that never was translated into dutch until 1999. And that's the book I found! Should make Blaise and Ole (you're into Hannah as well if I recall?) smile some, right? A lecture "Labor, Work, Action" 1964. An excerpt from Review of Politics, "The Concept of History:Ancient and Modern 1958. Another lecture "Philosophy and Politics" 1954. "Von der Menschlichkeit in finsteren Zeiten, gedanken zu Lessing" 1959. "Laudatio auf Karl Jaspers" 1958. And "Martin Heidegger ist achtzig Jahre alt" 1969.
The other two books are related to people I met via the Rickie Lee Jones site, but I guess most of you are also familiar with the writer Richard Brautigan, "Dreaming of Babylon". Long time ago I mentioned the Portuguese writer Fernando Pessoa and his Book of Disquietude, today I found his biography written by Angel Crespo who is known to be a true connaisseur of Pessoa's work!
The often intricate maneuvers of
Pessoa btw are similar to the kind of stunts DF & WB pull, kindred minds
etc.
Noooo kidding!
Miz D. so no lost Tribe there,
what a relief :-))
And about the publishing wheels of fortune or rejection, yep, it's a jungle. Me
Tarzan, you Jane. A monkey business. Who knows one day all you need to do is go
bananas and then .......
I'm sure however things will find their way!
Hey, are you legit mr LaPage as
in Craig?
If so, this GB in need of celebrities now a luckless pedestrian decided to cut
back on her sybil ways ... you, mr LaPage could fill up the gap, for if my
memory serves me right, you're (in the line of work) surrounded by people like
that? :-)
Don't be too estranged to this board?
|||| You threw in some hard labour counting GB posts, I only had to check the M&M rooms section that did the "dirty" work already, curiosity does have its limits!
Off to get some sleep,
Banyan Tree Had a Book Field Day Bow,
Gina
Name: ygk
and another thing.....
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 12:50:32
Comments:
if you go to that eminem site, you can register, or not!, and introduced a topic, like Steely Dan Rocks!....
fun, fun, fun for the kiddies...
ygk
Name: Aja
not finished yet
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 12:46:42
Comments:
Throw Back The Little Ones if the bride or groom is
under 18
Only A Fool Would Say That-'nuff said.
Okay I'm done. The romantics can take over from here.
Dime dancing 'til Hurricane time,
Aja
Name: BF
Let's Go
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 12:45:30
Comments:
Here's his web page - do you really think he meant farmclub or fanclub and just can't spell. Be careful it plays terrible music when it loads - a real bummer at work, so turn your speakers off - you've been warned.
http://eminem.farmclub.com/
Name:
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 12:40:48
Comments:
um, maybe you should stick to jazz standards after all there, our new bride - lol - like a good Ella tune, Sarah Vaughn
we are getting cynical, aja
Name: YGK
..
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 12:40:40
Comments:
Eminem, Schmeminem - but the trash boy fails to realize is that his oh so literary question, "Who the Fuck is Steely Dan?" will cause others to wonder and explore for themselves.....
who'd a thunk our Boys would bet some attention from Eminem's market?
Thank you, Marshal.....your ignorance is our blessing!
ygk
Name: Aja
no, I'm not cynical
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 12:38:17
Comments:
Gaslighting Abbie if the groom is playing footsie with
the maid of honor.
The Royal Scam if you're a member of the British Royal Family
Everything You Did if you've ever hired a private detective to follow your
betrothed around.
Tomorrow's Girls if the groom has a history of philandering.
Book of Liars to celebrate all the relationship baggage you'll be starting your
wedded life with.
Josie if the bride ever did time (or looks like she did).
Aja
Name: memories
where's barbara?
Location: i'm all, verklempt
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 12:31:47
Comments:
you see
she was going to be an actress
and i was going to learn to fly
she set off for the footlights
i set off for the sky
Name: i'm with ya aja
still @ work
Location: but, you see what i'm doin here?
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 12:28:34
Comments:
what a shame about me if the groom is woody allen meets harry chapin
Name: Aja
one more
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 12:24:22
Comments:
Almost Gothic if the bride is playing footsie with the best man.
I just love weddings.
Aja
Name: Aja
wedding song?
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 12:21:08
Comments:
Janie Runaway, of course.
Home at Last if you're feeling
sentimental.
I Got The News if you're pregnant on your wedding day.
Don't Take Me Alive if it's a shotgun wedding.
The Second Arrangement if it's anything besides your first wedding.
Dirty Work if your betrothed was married when you first met.
Raising up a Hurricane tonight!
Aja
Name: Chips
forget the sex pistols.......
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 12:17:50
Comments:
Who wants to storm the Eminem site with me? I only got a few more hours of this nonsense - Blaise, Wormy, GE, sh, aja? Who's in?
Name: Aus
@work
Location: NYC, NY USA
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 12:17:28
Comments:
'Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaano': I saw the same Reuters news piece. Since when was "the original classic thing" hoof-in-mouth disease changed to the more anticeptic "foot-in-mouth" disease???????????
Wedding dancing: Babes and I chose Cowboy Junkies "White Sail" from their Pale Moon Crescent Sun album. Nice easy ballad with emotionally charged lyrics.
Aus
Name: JWMalibu
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 12:15:28
Comments:
Hey Eminem ~ VH1 Called...they're saving a spot for you on "Where Are They Now"...make sure the trailer's clean when the camera crew shows up...
Name: YGK
..
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 12:11:24
Comments:
Wedding Tunes?
'Do it Again' - in anticipation
of the honeymoon
'Your Gold Teeth'
'Cringemaker' - if you can stand the irony
ygk
Name: "dano"
will the real sam snakie please
Location: stand up,
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 11:58:23
Comments:
TWM , Did you see the Brits, emy said in his song I waited in the blistering cold for six hours???
That"s because Don & Walt shut the fuckin door ya ejit.
Tones , What"s happenin man cub??
Britains epedemic of foot and
mouth hits the music industry??
Steely Dan kick ass ,the rest talk a load of shite>
Name: doin with the fez on
lp@work
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 11:52:59
Comments:
well, in that case, how about the fez - could really swing to that - lol
Name: fezo
dollyingback
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 11:50:22
Comments:
"Haitian Divorce" is always my pick for a wedding Dan tune. get some good reverse karma going
Name: twm
Must read all previous posts
Location: before spouting forth,
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 11:28:16
Comments:
But it proves my point!!!
Name: DrMu
waxing countermoon
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 11:27:13
Comments:
BigFan: Wow, they've made the National Probe...
GBW: ...and fake British accents...
Name: thirdworldman
Location: Glasgow,
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 11:25:21
Comments:
Altamira - nice to see you again. However, your assertion that lent is observed by all of Christianity aint true. Church of Scotland and Free Church of Scotland (those who dont watch TV on a Sunday) don't observe it to my knowledge.
The Brits were awarded last
night. UK version of the grammies. Eminem got an award and said on receiving it
'The winners are ; Steely Dan, who the Fuck ARE Steely Dan?'
Bang goes anty credibility or sympathy that nasty little latter day Vanilla Ice
might have had.
Anyway, popping into chat
Peace
Al
Name: Big Fan
home@last.net
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 10:58:20
Comments:
Yes a typo satyrs would have been appropriate
M&M says nasty words abot Steely Dan - her's the link, but I'm going to post the whole article since it's short and know you will want to read it directly. I'm sure D&W have asked the same question at one time or another.
From The Mirror, London, England
"RAPPER Eminem got a second huge hug in a few days from Elton John and then launched into a four-letter attack on Steely Dan.
The controversial star, who lost out to the veteran rockers at last week's Grammy Awards for Album of the Year, said: "And the winner is...Steely Dan. Who the f*** are Steely Dan?" He then went on to perform several tracks, including his smash hit The Real Slim Shady.
Eminem had promised organisers to mind his language but his set was littered with swear words. He probably realised they can be edited from tonight's programme."
http://www.ic24.net/mgn/THE_MIRROR/NEWS/P13S3.html
Even the National Enquirer mentions the duo - revealing pictures next issue perhaps:
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/breakingnews/breakingnews.cfm?instanceid=9816
Name: MrLaPage
long time gone
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 10:51:05
Comments:
Oleander? Clas? Q?
I've been away a long time. And then they go and win a Grammy. I should stay away more often.
Name: lp
lady b - rum and coke, i'm feeling all teeny-bopper all the sudden from the
chat room at lunchtime
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 10:19:08
Comments:
LB - you are in the personal distribution list in my outlook address book marked GB - let me know if you wanna come off that list - i've crashed a few computers with overloaded jokes in my time here - miss you alti and gina
alti - congrats to you on embarking on very scary territory, kudos, a better man than i am, gunga din - you are aligned with the planning profession - in fact many communities, including mine, put planning with those divisions - at my last position i was on the rabies advisory board, an eclectic group, we had alot of fun discussing the role of government in rabies issues - e me anytime with what you are working on i would love to hear about it - you will get great cocktail party stories working there my friend, the last public health director i worked with worked for the feds and boy were his stories a riot - H&HS during the Carter Administration, what a hoot!
lecture series sounds great, we have some good ones here too but my night meeting schedule is already a family hassle so i don't want to add more to it.
update on the chat room - i had to leave to speak to the town attorney and i also seem to have a bad influence on that place, good thing i am taking this break - it was decided jwmalibu is going to open up a string of 7-11's in the malibu area with hadji, and ygk is joining the band Josie and the Pussycats as their producer, and he may do their charts for them too, very excited for their new ventures, aren't you?
be back at day's end to chat - outside internet email is still out, no outside email in to my desk
Name: NMN
we've got your skinny girls...
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 10:16:31
Comments:
LB - considering that Aus wants to take us to The Western World, perhaps "when" is when "the sailor shuts out the sunrise/passed out on the stairs."
Name: jimbo
@work
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 10:15:59
Comments:
To Angel:
What's the URL for the recent LA Times story of the 2vN sales?
Also, by the way, Enema, I mean
Eninem won the British Music
Award for Best Male Artist and Elton performed with him again.
That'll make Bryant Grumbel, I mean Gumbel as happy as a lark>:(
Name:
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 10:09:27
Comments:
all bent over lent...
what to give up... what to give up...
- Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms?
- Religious beliefs?
- The Internet? (Vatican III should state e-mail as ok though, imho).
- Cousine Janine?
- Bill paying? backyard browsing? Aunt Faye?...
Name: Lady Bayside
Ladybayside@hotmail.com
Location: NYC,
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 09:48:49
Comments:
Hey y'all--
It's a mardi gras thing. Don't worry, I'll get over it soon.
As usual, sleep deprived, but still happy. Perhaps it's the Deludin.
lp: I hope you see this...would you, could you, add my address to the list..or is it like the A list and I am not yet "there"? Also, I admire your restraint. I have none with respect to accessing the GB.
Aus: You are too kind, and perhaps looking back through liquor-fogged glasses. The hype is hard to live up to!
NMN: I love the use of the word "excessive". One man's excess.....I'm not sure what I am giving up for Lent. We Presbyterians don't get too crazed about that sort of thing. I will try to be gentle vis a vis your 'likker' consumption. Know when to say when. When you are lying on the floor is not 'when'
YGK: Bring passes tomorrow. And tapes, s'il vous plait.
I need to grab lunch....tawk amongst yourselves. Topic: the group known as Steely Dan is neither made of Steel nor contains a person named 'Dan'. Discuss.
Smooches,
Lady B
Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Rockville, MD, USA
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 09:41:19
Comments:
I'm here at my new job out in Maryland, and I was just about to see if I could spend my lunch hour in the chat room, but then I thought that perhaps finding out if I could get into the chat room on this machine might not be a wise thing to do on my first day. I might try it after I've been here a while.
lp--Remember, Lent is observed by all Christians, not just Roman Catholics. I'm planning to go to most of the Lenten lecture series at my parish; the speakers this year look pretty interesting. By the way, now I'm working in the public sector too, although, alas, not in planning--I'm at the U. S. Department of Health and Human Services.
Name: GB wire
Stealin' Dan
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 09:33:50
Comments:
Brits favor big hits and fake tits:
http://www.newsday.com/ap/text/entertainment/ap203.htm
Wedding song, huh? The Second Arrangement, Any Major Dude Will Tell You...
Name: lp
in chat with ygk and jeb bush (can you believe it? he's here!)
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 09:15:42
Comments:
tomorrow's girls is another pic
Name: lp
wedding bells again on the gb
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 09:11:49
Comments:
Time Out Of Mind - the water will change to cherry wine and the silver will turn to gold - good dance tune too for a groovin kind of thingy
Walk Between the Raindrops Back to Your Door - oh miami!
Bodhisattva - for rockin out
Name: Not My Horshack
oh! oh!
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 09:04:10
Comments:
Gotta be "Daddy Don't Live..."
Name: ygk
..
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 09:03:27
Comments:
noontime chat?
Name: Dr. WuWu
@the grotto
Location: NY, NY
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 08:51:51
Comments:
Hey everyone,
I am planning on getting married at some point next year and would like to dance with my dad to a Steely Dan song at my wedding since he is the one who introduced me to the group when I was 4.
My question is....which one would be appropriate? Any suggestions?
And I'll laugh in advance now for the wise ass who says Everyone's Gone To The Movies or something else perverse.
See ya @ LBB.
Name: lp
is in
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 08:43:21
Comments:
chat - 11:45 AM EST
whopper in hand - fat tuesday celebration you know
Name: YGK
mhunter@bear.com
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 07:57:18
Comments:
Aus: perhaps you could give up selling short for lent....just a suggestion, tho. ;)
All NYC Danfesters: there are still reduced admission ($10) tickets for the 3/22 Thursday Night Chuck Rainey/Elliot Randall gig with Tycoon Dog opening.....
Send me a e-mail request including quantity, and I'll give you my addy, so you can send me your SASE, and I will forward tickets to your snail before you leave for the Big Apple.
March horoscopes look ab-fab!
Have a great Spring Day, everyone....
ygk
Name: Aussie
@work
Location: NYC, NY USA
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 07:34:30
Comments:
NMN: not a chanse brother...good try tho'. It'll be hard-charging in spite of ashes on forehead. Should be fun. Check e-blast re: Ranch One.... and if you do beat me and YGK to the bar, LadyB is the charming sexy one....
Luckless Pedestrian: Good luck on your GB abstinence. Haven't figured out what I'm going to sacrifice yet.
RE: DanfestNYC: I will be largely available to entertain/meet/rendezvous with anyone who's flying in that cares for the first four days of the week. Monday after the gig at the Waldorf and thru Thursday....unfortunately Babes and I will be on a plane to Florida the following Friday for the weekend. I guess the BIG night besides Monday night will be Thursday night at LBB which I will be at, hopefully with Babes...so we're excited to meet many more of you...Many great places to meet for potent potables in the City..I will be willing shepherd for those looking to imbibe and hang at some of the sexier lounges in the city...lemme know who you are through listbot.
Happy Mardi Gras everybody.
Aus
Name: NMN
The Zone
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 07:21:22
Comments:
lp - don't go! I'm giving up excessive carbohydrates for lent--join me! (Don't you love the subjectivity there?) That still leaves pulled pork and chili on the menu.
Aus, LB, ygk - hence it will be hard likker tomorrow instead of my preferred beer. Go easy on me...
Name: YGK
..
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 06:42:13
Comments:
in chat 9:42AM EST
Name: Chips
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 06:40:10
Comments:
hey b: #@^%(*&&^$&#*^(&#$@^()()&#^^$&(_+)_)*%
;p
Name: slim g
big bodacious blaise bodyguard
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 06:34:09
Comments:
This morning lp solemnly wrote:
"... some days i'm worse
than my buddy blaise!"
?
Time enough to ponder on that one, eh? Me not having been THAT present
especially lately.
Shall we place bets that chips can't stay away that long?
just teasing ya.
Name: angel
Say it ain't so...
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 06:22:13
Comments:
LP: You came on while I was posting.
Good luck on refraining at work. It gets kind of frustrating.
You want to respond to the day crew, but it can be done. :-)
BTW:, You will be missed, at least during the day.
Name: timmy g
in back of da house
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 06:18:59
Comments:
Walter's backyard, latest findings:
- The WB anti-gang bunker
complete with squatting Animaniacs
- The doghouse for Dre, a recntly aquired prize-winning fighting pitbull
- 4 Grammys in a safe, 50 feet under
- A cryogenic chamber housing cloned, virtual content partner, just in case,
honey mustard happens
- A trash can with invites to a Grammy bash "behind that big casino on the
beach" yo!
- The guesthouse for Walter's infamous hollandese bodyguard
- By the thrash can, the original Donald's discarded acceptance speech
- A bag of skunk's tears
- Q, in full camouflage gear, crouching on the lawn, eyeing the HOF exhibit
still in storage there
- Still in the trash, tickets to Disneyland, still valid, and a Powerpoint
print-out of detailed plans to overtake Clas's guestbook
Name: angel
Morning Scan
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 06:14:30
Comments:
Steely Dan back in the news this morning. That makes
3 out of the last 4 days, they have had a story on them
in the L.A. Times. Retailers High on Steely Dan.
basicly the same stuff as in most of the other articles, but an interesting
note. The substantial increase in sales is on the new album, not on the entire
SD calalog. Figures for last
week come out on Wednesday.
No, I don't think SD will ever drop back to relative
obscurity again.
I dream about a laughing angel..... :-)
Name: luckless pedestrian
on toast
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 06:12:57
Comments:
hey, happy mardis gras - fat tuesday - eat drink and be merry for tomorrow is lent
blaise, you musta popped into my conversation yesterday with aja - last night was not very religious that i can remember - thank god that text scrolls and doesn't get saved like here
hey steviedan and GE, sorry i missed you guys too - will be in tonight after yet another meeting
part of my lenten sacrifice is giving up the time i spend during the day on the internet - i won't give up, however, my email chats (though my internet email is still out), so if i'm on your email list or you are on mine, then i will still keep in touch with you (tones, i will scroll today and get your e) - this is sorta become a vice, that is, taking me away from other duties, so the time i would psend here will be spent taking a walk, likely some prayer and reflection and tending to other responsibilities, but it also has been a necessary sanity break, a new connection with new friends that i really look forward to talking to in here, in chat and in email (hence why i can't give up the third), so the quandry remains as to what a vice is - so my compromise is giving up chat and the gb and sticking to email, since that takes the least of my time and i can control how much i do a day (like when i don't answer an email, right sh?)
as i said to aja yesterday - my soul needs an enema and i want to spend my lunchtime/freetime doing just that for the next forty days
the question remains: can she do it - lol - for i'm not blessed with the self-control of aus and others here who just post once a day, some days i'm worse than my buddy blaise! i blame my catholic school education (of course, can't take my own hits) for thwarting my creativity so much so that upon entry to adulthood, it would explode into a meteor shower
luckily i have a tight meeting schedule today so will only check in a couple of times - i will go to chat at work day's end and tonight though, so if anyone's interested, come on over with me
i'm sure this post will bring out a field day of postings as to what's wrong with the catholic church, just remember this country's commitment to diversity as you rank on this tradition (smirk) - i respected and supported a previous secretary's dedication to ramadan, and another's need to take time off for jewish holidays (traded time for her with the anglo holidays, worked great), so why can't i expect the same - but anyway, it's a free guestbook, so have fun, go nuts, discuss amongst yourselves, don't get all verklempt, and i'll see you here after easter, unless an irritating post brings me back here today ;)
oh, and chips is coming along for my ride into lent's tomb too :p (no more ramones for that guy for a while)
Name: slim blaisey
D. Dre has a scar form ear to ear, he wears an hearing aid
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 05:15:35
Comments:
Steven Flow, discs arrive like butter flyers. The
gimmicks some will pull... but it's probably done in sn effort to compete with
the 54 different live concerts already available online.
Steely Dan has a least a half-dozen out there from the last tour.
Definitely a "quantity over quality" affair. I still think they
should consider releasing a live album with that material, if they recorded any
themselves. We do have the Plush and Storytellers but we're greedy bastards,
aren't we?
An appropriate title right now would be something like "(Still) Alive in
America". This considering Dre is - and I loosely quote - "really
pissed off"...
lp needed a cigarette but I wasn't in there. I swear. when I was in there earlier , it was deeply religious in tone. Like one thing leads to another, eh?
later
like in a minute
Name: Schwinn
east of nova scotia
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 01:02:58
Comments:
JWMalibu, you rock! Can't wait to hear the music of all my favorite Steely Pals.
Now, let's hope the dynamic duo can equal the feat of an album a year.
Squeegies,
SEMB
Name: steviedan
too early
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 19101 at 00:00:56
Comments:
lp, all you folks are too early for me. my computer time is always in the dead of night/morning (e.s.t.). isn't it comforting to know that some crazy person is out there, listening to the complete works of stravinsky at 3 a.m. ?
anyway, enjoyed your aussish account of the great brubeck.
mulder is down but i'm not counting him out. i was digging the new guy but then suddenly, he was digging AT me. jury still out on that. i'm anxious to check out lone gunmen next week.
the new deluxe reissue of "what's going on" by marvin gaye is phenomenal. it includes the two mixes of the album, a 1972 concert date, and other rarities all on two discs. this is at least the third repackaging of this record and if this doesn't end, at least they can do it like this, so there's no debate over whether you need it or not. bastards.
pearl jam released twenty-three new live discs from their american tour... TWENTY-THREE ! couldn't we get even ONE ?
Name: GE
Day late and a Piaster short
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 21:17:32
Comments:
Sorry LP, must of just missed ya in chat. I got there and Chere was still rockin but left too soon as usual. Maybe it's me.
Floridave, did you get the tapes? Pretty incredible right?
To all my other cyber-pals, a big wet Kiss!!!See you in chat.
Peace
GE
Name: Ken V.
@musicians of the guestbook
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 20:52:42
Comments:
To Lisa G:
Thank you so much. New songs will be added to the site this week. I always
thought "Oh No, I'm a Waiter Again!" would be my epitaph, but then I
wrote "I'll Be Right Here If you Need Me," which begs to be on my
stone. (Nothing like a northeast winter to lift one's spirits.)
I'm not familiar with Summers' Mother, just Lennon's.
Listening to a loop of Gaucho & TVN. I can't believe Steely Dan could whip out 2 albums so great, one right after the other.
JDubz: You are the man!
Name: lp
outta meeting and outta chat
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 20:40:06
Comments:
got a cigarrette? it was getting too hot in there - juju waved her wand over a few of us and well, my goodness - nice chat fellas and juju!
nite
steviedan, no posts tonight, no chat - GE? you neither? ah well
Name: angel
Here Come Tomorrow's Girls
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 20:30:51
Comments:
Still listening to Kamakiriad, and really enjoying it.
I was reading Oleander's web page regarding Kama and
found out that Tomorrow's Girls reminds someone of
the old sci fi movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers".
Kind of cool thing is that when I look out my window
at work, I see a scene from that very movie.
I think every location in L.A. has been in some movie
at sometime. That one just happens to be my view.
Adds a little something to the listening experience....
LP: Challenger disaster. I was
driving on top of the
I-5 / 14 Interchange when I heard the news on KLOS.
That interchange, by the way, is the same one that
has fallen down in 2 earthquakes.
Hoops: Thanks, maybe I will give it a try.
Tomorrow's Girls.....
Name: Mr. 70's
@the disco
Location: Macho, Maine
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 19:52:44
Comments:
Do they call it "the Grammys" because that's how rock stars do their blow, by the grammy? Wouldn't the "Eight-Ballys" be a more apt description? Or even the "LBs" in Sir Elton's case?
SD won AND their album was far and away the best one nominated. How's that for irony, boyz?
Name: DrMu
mew
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 19:45:14
Comments:
new
Name: DrMu
Nosy Traumatic
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 19:43:16
Comments:
Aja: another typical left-wing knee-jerk backlash bullshit. Time has sunk to a knew low. Man, I'll turn y'all into Texas outlaw (the ones that don't list to Country) conservatives soon.
Here's the bottom line
M&M/Dre album GROSS: $227,700,000
Concert GROSS: $ 22,000,000
Really GROSS Total: $249,700,000
Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' 'bout...
shame, shame, shame, shame...
Name:
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 17:37:20
Comments:
hanging chats?
Name: Miz Ducky
hanging in chat
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 16:47:38
Comments:
Blaise, come back!
Somebody come play hooky with me!
/the Mam'zelle
brain still too buzzed to work
Name: Aja
this guy needs to be seriously enlightened
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 16:31:24
Comments:
right after we tie him to a red ant hill naked and covered with honey:
http://www.time.com/time/sampler/article/0,8599,100287,00.html
2vN OLD SCHOOL???????? Who sat this idiot in front of a computer?
Aja
Name: tones,
still shakin' & stirred...
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 14:33:45
Comments:
... by the Files last night too. It's been a hard month for me, first watching Gillian be psychologically abused by heartless society debutantes in "House of Mirth", then to have her find Mildew, er... I mean Moldy, whateva... too late... well, I have a lot of comforting to do. Gillian, you can always lean on me... Possible spoiler: don't be surprised if Scully's kid has curly hair and my eyes...
Snakie - dear, you were a perfect lady, unfortunately ;-)... at least until I passed out. Sunset was great... I think... good thing my car practically runs on autopilot. Not that it has to often... Next time it's limo-to-the-beach.
Lp - great Brubeck read. You may be no Aus but you're miles ahead of what they call concert reviews around here (SF/bay area).
Ole - sorry, didn't mean to scare ya...
Aja, Blaiser, LG, Miz, chere, danooo - s'up?
Danslut(tm) - *please* come home...
piece
tonebone - looking like a genius (for a change) for "accidently" doubling the order for 2vsN last week... heh heh...
Name: LMAOaat/w/gb
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 14:33:22
Comments:
Name:
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 14:25:56
Comments:
collective eye rolling from the gb
Name: you'll shit your pants
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 14:16:27
Comments:
Name: don't call us
we'll
Location: call, you
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 14:13:49
Comments:
Name: didn't they win a grammy?
or a people's choice award?
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 14:13:16
Comments:
okay, next!
Name: villaage people, villaage
the orgasmatron vacation, the antidote to overcelebration
Location: ,
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 14:12:00
Comments:
Body, wanna feel my body, body, baby, such a thrill, my
body
Body, wanna touch my body, body, baby, it's too much, my body
Body, check it out, my body, body, baby, don't you doubt, my body
Body, talking about my body, body, baby, checking out my body
Listen here
Every man wants to be a macho man
To have the kind of body always in demand
Joggin' in the mornings, go man go
Work up to the hill's top, muscles grow
You can best believe me
He's a macho man
Glad he took you down with anyone you can
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
Macho, macho man
I gotta be a macho man
Macho macho man
I gotta be a macho
Macho, macho man
I gotta be a macho man
Macho macho man
I gotta be a macho
Body, my body, body, wanna feel
my body
Body, baby, body, body, come and thrill my body
Body, baby, body, body, love to funk, my body
Body, baby, body, body, it's so hot, my body
So hot, yeah my body
Allright
Everyman ought to be a macho,
macho man
To live a life of freedom, machos make a stand
Have your own lifestyles and
ideals
Access the strip of competence, that's the skill
You can best believe that he's a macho man
He's the special god son in anybody's land
hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
Macho, macho man
I gotta be a macho man
Macho macho man
I gotta be a macho
Macho, macho man
I gotta be a macho man
Macho macho man
I gotta be a macho
Macho, macho man
I gotta be a macho man
Macho macho man
I gotta be a macho
I gotta be a macho man
I gotta be a mucho mucho, macho macho man
I gotta be a macho
Name: lp
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 14:03:47
Comments:
in chat again until 5:20 PM EST
Name: Chips
musing
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 13:40:00
Comments:
What's up with the Mardi Gras frivolity?
Overreaction by the authorities or Amercians acting like idiots and taking it too far?
You decide.
Name: lp
again?
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 13:33:15
Comments:
alti - my heart was in my throat, i can remember the exact hallway i was standing in and everything when i heard the news of it - i still get chills thinking about it - i wish there was more finaincial interest in that program, though the space staion work is really exciting to watch -
now, if there was oil in space, raytheon stock would be kicking some serious ass, and we'd be living there tomorrow
(this slam on the u.s.'s interest in oil exploration wherever and whenever with no costs too high and no environement too sacred are stated with sincere apologies to my pal, the worm - how are you buddy anyway?)
and renewed interest in military investments will help raytheon anyway
Name: Miz Ducky
Seattle, land of street-riots :-)
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 13:31:54
Comments:
Heh. Right now 2vN is Number 5 on Amazon.com, and Number 4
on cdnow.com. Sweeeeeeeet.
Oleander, Gina -- many thanks for your kind words about my novel excerpts.
Gina, the novel ms. is actually complete, to the very last chapter. There are
still some passages that need fixing ... plus frankly, I'm a little stymied
about where the hell to submit such a genre-crossing work for publication. I've
had just enough exposure to the publishing industry to know it's just as
screwed up, and in many of the same ways, as the music industry, and I dread
having my ms. cool its heels for months and years on some first reader's desk
just to be spat back with a form letter. So I'm reviewing the situation, as
someone (other than D&W) once sang ...
Oh, and yes, that song has a tune. There are in fact several songs in the
novel, and they all have tunes. If I'd have gotten my shit together in time,
one of those songs would have gotten submitted to the GB compilation. Perhaps
next year.
/the Mam'zelle
hmmming under her breath
Name: Aja
@thisjobbites.com
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 13:31:36
Comments:
Went to Tower at lunch to get Erykah Badu's latest (hey there juju girl ;o) and they had a huge Grammy display at the door with CD's from all the nominees (the display was put on before the awards). Well, almost all of them-they didn't have any Steely Dan ANYWHERE. I laughed and asked the barely-old-enough-to-drive clerk why there wasn't any Steely Dan on the display and she gave it a deer caught in the headlights stare and said (after a loooong pause) "I don't know". Man, kids these days.
Dr. Dre wouldn't know a diamond if he held it in his hand.
Same old dime dance (but new steps coming soon!),
Aja
Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: WDC,
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 13:14:39
Comments:
lp--Yes, I remember the Challenger. I learned about its crashing from a television set in the student union building at University of Maryland, and I was amazed because I had heard absolutely nothing about the entire project until then. I told my friends about it, and they had no idea that such a thing existed until then either (we weren't very interested in current events). After learning of it, they thought the whole thing was pretty pointless--they'd thought that the whole space program had ended when they were in elementary school and didn't see any reason to continue with it. They thought it was a colossal waste of government money.
Name: lp
popping in
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 13:09:38
Comments:
Q, i knew what you meant, so nyah to that other person there - i hope their sales skyrocket
great chats today, but i need a drink, who's buying? i spent too much money on my 2 year old's birthday party on wine (for the parents of course)
i'll take a negroni, know how to make that one? don't forget the orange peel please
anyone going to the tibet concert - tonight at carnegie right - wonder how david bowie really feels about natalie merchant's cover? will they duet it on stage, hhmmmmm, totally different personas could be interesting - that song always makes me remember what i was doing when challenger went down (coming out of class at syracuse)
Name: Q
Down in Tampa...
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 13:04:16
Comments:
Out of sequence due to travel, but no you nameless jerk,
$$$ are not all I think of - it's just that the Grammies are only about $$$ -
not talent.
This time Talent won because the $$$ boys were too contoversial or too boring
and the Talent boys(DF/WB) were too compelling.
You ruined my good vibe....thanks!
Name: Chips
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 12:10:25
Comments:
out of chat
Name: ygk
..
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 11:41:11
Comments:
in chat
Name:
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 11:24:00
Comments:
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz up, what? grammies? who? you're kidding......
Name: sorry we only have eight
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 11:13:57
Comments:
The folks at Crayola have been working hard and have come up with the following in honor of Steely CD colors
Steely Dan 8-Pack Crayons
(limited edition)
1. aja red
2. 2vN orange
3. cbat yellow
4. katy green
5. cte sky-blue-green
6. Kama lavender
7. scam slate
8. pretzel logic black
Name: ||||
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 10:58:06
Comments:
Lady Bayside - big grin on that one! :))
Name: Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 10:55:29
Comments:
BF-
Thanks for the links. Just as a funny, when I read the sentence about the local radio station giving away tickets to the Hall of Fame thingy, I read the next part of the sentence as "and a night with the satyrs" figuring you had just omitted the 'y'.
Somehow, with Donald and Walter, I didn't think twice that it could have been anyting else!
*sheepish grin*
Lady Bayside
Name: BF
here @wrk
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 10:34:54
Comments:
Sorry, I've been away from the computer - I'm sure the NY Post article is a repeat but I'll just post the link:
http://www.nypost.com/02232001/entertainment/23065.htm
Evansville Courier Press AP
repeat:
http://www.courierpress.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?200102/23+winner022301_news.html+20010223
NY Times yesterday:
Lecherous, and they don't go into detail about Janie Runaway even:
February 25, 2001
A Big Year in Bad
By NEIL STRAUSS
Copyright 2001 The New York Times Company
"Eminem must have been relieved when the envelope containing the Grammy
Awards' highest honor, best new album, was torn open at the Staples Center in
Los Angeles and his name wasn't inside. Now, the protests, hand-wringing and
nonstop media attention aimed at the offensive lyrics on his "Marshall
Mathers LP" can finally subside. And he still walked away with three
Grammys, making a clean sweep of the hip-hop categories. His mentor and
producer, Dr. Dre, however, was disappointed. Cornered after the ceremony, he
said, "I was robbed."
The robber was Steely Dan, a veteran band that had never received a Grammy. Its first album in 20 years, "Two Against Nature," earned four Grammys. It contains two lecherous songs that deal with topics as incendiary as those on Eminem's album. One, "Cousin Dupree," about a man with an incestuous crush on his cousin, won for best pop performance by a group with vocal. Asked backstage how Steely Dan's lyrics compared with Eminem's, the ever-wry Donald Fagen of Steely Dan cracked, "I think they compare favorably."
Other big winners were the country diva Faith Hill and the megalomaniacal rock group U2, who received three awards each."
Local radio station in Springfield, Mass is running a contest to win two ticets to the RRHOF inductions and a night with the satrs at the Waldorf. Today's band is Steely Dan. I wish I could win!
LA Times - big sales?
http://www.latimes.com/print/calendar/20010226/t000017146.html
Name: lp
out of chat
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 10:32:06
Comments:
thanks aja and to juju too - great chat ladies, carry onward
nice to see you too david and for a moment blaise
bye
Name: "dano"
just a wee quickie
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 09:52:17
Comments:
Hoops great site - check your e-mail thanks mate.
St Al , found that PBS thanks for tip off mate.
Regards "dano"
Name: Gina
Zooming in & out
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 09:50:37
Comments:
10-49 listeners now, the radio Free Dandom. Needless to say what's to accomodate the Squonk leisure time and drinks from now on, right? Radio and internet entwined, a fine blend, a fine blend indeed.
Miz Ducky, hope you will get to finish your three chapter novel, or else an elementary school trauma and this story about two young italian princes (one was named Giacomo) having to roam the world in order to get their kingdom back will have found a peer in your Tribe of Shamans. I will not only wonder if Giacomo and his twinbrother ever made it back safely, no, now there's also Jude and TJ and Evan and Michael and this song "Something in the Blood" ... you got a tune and all to those lyrics, Miz D.?
Off for french fries, Donald singing Tomorrow's Girls on radio Free Dandom, why does this all brings back memories of childhood and breezed summers, less traffic on the streets and a sense of .........
Banyan Tree All Q's and Straight
A's Bow,
Gdot
Name: R. Isherwood
kt_racing@hotmail.com
Location: Nokomis, Sk. Canada
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 09:19:43
Comments:
Enjoyed visiting your site...Our site is about
Snowmobile Racing in Saskatchewan. Schedules, free classified ads, bulletin
board of upcoming events, photos, extensive
links to Vintage Sled sites, racing, performance and the largest Snowmobile
Tech Information link site on the Web. Last Mountain Motor Sports
Name: ..
..
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 09:04:39
Comments:
The following is a brief review from AMG (All-Music Guide), of the Larry Carlton/Steve Lukather album to be released March 20, 2001:
Lighting-fast phrases, spectacular solos, and soothing statements abound in this first ever "live" collaboration by two guitar icons. Larry Carlton on the left side and Steve Lukather on the right side are astounding on No Substitutions: Live in Osaka. This was the first recorded onstage collaboration of the guitarists, even though they had met nearly 25 years before performing in a club environment, and their first-take energy comes through loud and clear. Joined by drummer Gregg Bissonette, keyboardist Rick Jackson, and bassist Chris Kent, the award-winning guitarists perform a no-holds-barred set on five extended tunes that range from a 14-minute version of Jeff Beck's "The Pump" to the legendary Miles Davis tune "All Blues" and Carlton's signature piece, "Room 335." The tremendous interaction between Carlton and Lukather works extremely well on "All Blues," their frets working together in melodic harmony while displaying their original musical personalities. Amplified rock licks bring this song to another level that is devoid of any riffs in vogue on the jazz scene. However, Carlton and Lukather do remain true to the song's original series of five scales, and each solos until they've completed the series. This is one awesome blowing date and is highly recommended for all true rock and fusion fans whether you were there or not. — Paula Edelstein
Name: Eubie The Showgirl
Al B Sin@tra
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 09:02:50
Comments:
Enemanem got his butt kicked by a couple old guys in suits!
Oooo, tough guy! Ruff! Ruff!
Name: NMN
...make that...
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 08:59:30
Comments:
lp - ...I must only imagine what's going on in there...
Name: NMN
the real shrimp lady
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 08:58:20
Comments:
Hi everyone...
LB- a little smoke coming out of my ears this morning due to unfathomable corporate bureaucracy, but much better, thank you. My best to your hair.
lp - I'm attempting to be led
into chat but failing. I must only
Anyone see Moby talking about how he couldn't be depressed about being beaten
by a novelty act, viz. Baja Men/Who Let the Dogs Out?
My point exactly.
I'm happy when people are happy. I love people coming out of the woodwork to tell their stories. And I like it when people say Steely Dan is good.
But...
I don't view the Grammy as a vindication of anything. The Grammy winning criteria are orthogonal to any rational basis for judging the quality of the nominated music.
Steely Dan was, is, and will ever be great, Grammy or no.
The grumpy old man has spoken. Now GET OFF OF MY LAWN!
Name: lp
what the hell
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 08:40:48
Comments:
in chat, with salad 11:43 PM EST
Name: snakehips
darn! i missed it
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 08:33:33
Comments:
lp - missed the X-Files last night. Got into watching the VH1 thing on the Doobies. Is Mulder dead? I'm not crazy about the new guy. No charisma.
sh
a little smile can really make your day...
Name: Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 08:31:31
Comments:
I forgot to mention that I was in Coconuts the day after the Grammys..and checked out the Dan section. They had a good selection, but only one section of a row display...
So, I fixed it. I ended up moving TvN copies so that they were more visible..even if they did end up covering some other unfortunate--and certainly less worthy--artist.
Hey, we do what we can. *grin*
All in the name of love for the Boys.
Lady B
Name: DJ. Mitch
doin it again
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 08:29:04
Comments:
I know we will not see a video single from 2VN, BUT I think that WASAM would have been perfect,a storyline that many of us Boomers can relate too, but then again maybe too much realism for the video world ....... In the supermarket playing was Your Gold Teeth and it stopped me in my tracks......don`t think it ever got airplay?
Name: Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 08:27:33
Comments:
Morning, all...
Schnakie....I had no idea you were that bad off. Thank goodness we took your keys! Okay, next time we watch you more closely.
Whoever asked if we would extend service at Squonks to include non-potables...it's not really my thing, but if Jen thinks it's okay, I suppose so. She can take care of those types of requests, if amenable.
lp: excellent review...I *am* mad about Brubeck, but missed him in our vicinity.
Aus: today a better day? Here's hoping....
NMN: still smell like smoke? How was the vacation?
And a cheery, if not terribly energetic, hello to all my fellow GB folk. I'm trying to decide if I want to take the Friday following the first LBB show off...given the lateness of the evening, I would say yes. I hope there will be some planning.
Hey, Oleander..I have some ideas for your bookstore tour but have to pin down exact names. There's a great mystery bookstore that I am especially thinking of...I think I have temporary amnesia.
'nuff for now. I need to wake up.
Lady B
Name: Aussie
@work
Location: NYC, NY USA
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 08:19:40
Comments:
Luckless Pedestrian: Nice report. Thank you. Funny coincidense: This morning, I took with me to work The Dave Brubeck Quartet's Time Out effort from 1959.
DJ Mitch: Friends from Boston we entertained this past weekend commented on how a few stores were compleatly sold out of Steely Dan's "Two Against Nature" compact discs. And not because they were out of old stock either, but because the "new stock" they ordered was selling briskly.
Aussie
Name: lp
cyber-decongestant?
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 08:12:47
Comments:
somebody gave me a virus - they think it's from the listbot, so i'm off that list now - so if anyone has emailed me, it's stuck in cyber-limbo now, so i'm not ignoring you
lisa g, have you figured out your mystery yet?
bummer about mulder last night, i'm very depressed today becasue of it - skully, you in mourning? where'd the healer go? is your partner falling for you or what? he's got issues, so be careful there dear.....and, lay low with that red dye will ya? i thought the fda got rid of that stuff years ago.
sorry i took so much room on my brubeck musings below - but it was a fun post
will chat at work-day's end if anyone's into it
Name: Chips
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 08:06:08
Comments:
prediction: a come-back for the ramones - anyone can be mainstream now
Name: D.J. Mitch
@ WJAZ , Mt. Belzoni
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 08:04:50
Comments:
The Saturday pitstop at Best Buy , the giant entertainment store surprised me. 2VN was out of stock and it seemed that the Dan section as a whole was being consumed.....I`M sure it has passed the million mark by now......This hoopla should carry on into the induction ceremony......This YEAR will find Steely Dan on the "IN" Column.....Classic Rockers who found the Dan too slick will take another look........ I mentioned former producer Gary Katz as a person i wish was involved with all these allocades and nobody bit.....What was the reason for his severed relationship with Don and Walt?........
Name: snakehips
or sanakie (if you're a little tipsy)
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 07:55:20
Comments:
Jen and Lady B - Whew. Friday was a strange day for me and I think I drank too much! You guys are going to have to cut me off after a couple glasses of wine.
Tohnz baby - Panty Rippers sound great (somehow that doesn't sound right) But I don't think you should have been driving! Were you? - I drank so much I can't remember. Hope nothing else happened that I should remember ;-)
sh
you know how people talk, I wonder what they say...
Name: luckless pedestrian
aus is a friend of mine
Location: and let me tell you, you are no aussie
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 07:54:38
Comments:
but i'll pretend to be him today:
venue: david brubeck - 2.24.01 - berklee performance center - boston, massachusetts - center aisle orchestra seating - a little more than half the way back - perfect sound quality location, thanks to some wonderful sound and structural engineers - notes taken in pen on the 2001 water music schedule (plans now to see Herbie Hancock with Michael Brecker and Roy Hargrove at Symphony in the fall - a concert to honor miles davis and john coltrane)
anyway, dinner before-hand for six at a lovely home in brookline, conversation focused on our owned releases of dave brubeck, whether his son would be there, etc. - meal: swordfish with delicate creole seasoning, pesto on pasta, baby asparagus (not overdone, nope), crusty bread from trader joe's, all preceded by a well-made beefeater martini - took the t in to see the show (berklee is down the street from symphony hall which was active as well, no parking thus)
dave and the loyal threesome entered the stage unassuming as always and set to play some tunes from their upcoming release to be called "the crossing" - the intro from dave was that he "turned 80 and i wrote 12 new tunes we'd like to try some out for you", which the audience immediately laughed and applauded for, hoping our own blessed creativities will continue on for that long - tunes all have an immediate running melody then build into streams of solo's, balloons going in and out, all free form but complicated - flute by bobby was phenomenal and randy jones on the drums was as on as he was 10 years ago at newport - raucous orchestration on each tune - each band member playing as if they were new to the scene - the title tune for the new release sent you dockside, watching an ocean liner leave New York heading east, all written to get the feel of the departure, the piano as the pipes blowing out the steam, the drums as the pistons straining to push out to open sea, the bass as the captain greeting his guests - other tunes with the saxophone elicit thoughts of waiters busying carrying platters of food for guests, and passengers strolling the decks, martini's in hand - brubeck leaning into the piano like schroeder concentrating on his performance only partially noticing the audience present - intermission: marveling at the crowd's unlimited age range, wondering the effect of Ken Burn's series on ticket sales or individual preference for dave brubeck, brubeck's influence on the jazz scene going into the 60's and coming off of college play in the mid-50's, his trips to japan and moscow that were unheard of at the time - second half - chris brubeck "who lives nearby" comes on the stage with a gleaming trombone in hand, and plays with the four as if he had only stepped out for a few minutes previous - haunting tune with his father evoked thoughts of a fog lifting over the sea as the ship moves carefully through, and the glowing anticipation of what is to come - played with syllables for the name randy jones to create another piece that shows the true genius of brubeck: to play with the ordinary to come up with the extraordinary - encore performance was what appeared to be an impromptu interpretation of sentimental journey, fitting for the release of the new tunes marking their trans-atlantic journey crossing from New York to London they did that inspired the melodies played that evening
we have seen brubeck play many times and it was agreed this was the best we had ever seen him: fresh, new, rejunevated, tight, even take five had a new power within it - how lucky we were to grab a piece of that pie, if only for an evening.....
have a nice day
Name: ygk
..
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 07:21:54
Comments:
....had a rather enjoyable weekend with the 'rents,
which was topped off by hearing "Almost Gothic" on WXPN Sunday
Morning.....the drive back was filled with poetry and music by the one and only
Jackson Browne - "Late for the Sky" and "Hold Out"....
LftS brings tears and chills....
it appears that finding the illusive Snow in Hades is still missing.....
ygk
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 07:02:29
Comments:
Lisa G - between us musicians, would YOU like to post something on my GuestBook?
C
Name: Clas
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 06:27:22
Comments:
Blaise - I never LISTEN to Jackson Browne.
Skully - will YOU sign in on my GuestBook?
C
Name: |||||
VT humor
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 05:16:20
Comments:
Mark in Boston - "Ben & Jerry just out of rehab" - LOL!
Name: Blaise
considering squatting on Clas's GB for a few years
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 03:30:39
Comments:
Clas - In turn, I can't believe you still listen to
Jackson Browne.
Internet Dan stream radio sounds interesting enough from what I read here. will
check it out.
Too early.
Later
Name: Gina
Dandom Radio
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 02:58:12
Comments:
It's noon CET and it's Floridavid now airing ...
Name: Clas
@ fucking work
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 01:44:35
Comments:
Goudmourning Gina.
dr Mu – I can't believe you're actually still listening to Steely Dan. We know those songs in and out. Tempo-changes, chord-progressions, vibrato, no vibrato, Jim Keltner* on a garbage can, lyrics in and out too. Dan-fests in New Orleans, Dan-fests in Cincinnati, Dan-fests in Raleigh... And now we have this Swede who's PAINTING Steely Dan-songs.
Where will this end?
And I didn't realize the guys got a Grammy, so of course they are allowed to make a next one (yaaaawwning). What album of theirs got a Grammy? The latest?
Jim Keltner played drums on John Lennons album, the one with "Imagine" on it. Go from Lennon to Steely Dan, THAT was a step up on the ladder I must say.
Miz Ducky - "I will of course write up a full report (well, maybe not mentioning *every* single misadventure) of my upcoming jaunt to NYC for the DanFestivities."
You know Miz, when I rolled out of my bed this morning I thought, damn, I wonder what's going to happen in New York on the Dan-fest.
Hell girl, I can hardly wait for your report.
Blaise - my GuestBook? Oh man, I didn't know I had one before my webb-drone told me so. It wasn't my idea.
Cara Mia? Will you sign in on my GuestBook? I am so lonely there.
www.ateljelundkvist.se/galleri
C
Name: Gina
Hur ray di oooo
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 00:58:28
Comments:
As in a poor ~~~~ Wormy impersonation to express my utmost !!! for the Dandom radio, merci beaucoup mr Hoops. Still in a sinc-y kind of mind, for when i was saving presets the other night to a variety in cable stations, i couldn't help but wish for a dannish one and here it is ... do we realize how rich we are? It's not the $$$$$ sort of currency that counts and matters in my book!
GREAT. Minute by Minute by the Doobies now is playing on the Dandom Radio, this a perfect wave, just perfect!
Banyan Tree Swept Off Like ...
Bow,
Gina
Name: oleander
on the tunes
Date: Monday, February 26, 19101 at 00:11:56
Comments:
St. Al--*sniff* That was beautiful. I LOVE YOU, MAN! But sorry, I got teeth.
wormtom--Somebody in production at NPR is a MAJOR Danfan! I also heard a snip of YGTII. What a treat.
ExMan, CJ--Welcome.
Ol' Les--hey there. Another Los Lobos fan here. I've seen them twice in my little burg, once in a small club from the edge of the stage. They can ROCK.
Tones--you're giving me nightmares.
kd--don't you have to be 21 to do that? Shame on you, young man. --Hey, so are you coming to NY or WHAT? If you can jet around the country with your laptop, like what about US?? HUH??
Mark, Geoff, Alta--looking forward to seeing you in NY.
TWM--I like DeLa. I also like Tribe Called Quest--creative & fun.
DF'72--very good.
Pink--very funny. But I'm CRUSHED that you hate me. Let's talk. I'll explain the highway divider gig to you--kind of a family tradition--
z--I've petitioned The Management for a long weekend leave for you in March. I'm running into a little snag--I think he wants you to recant your early-Dan comments--but as a counteroffer I'll bring my Port-a-Padded-Cell, my instant-release strait jacket, and several vials of the DStm's remedies (one of these...). An offer he can't refuse? --keep your fingers crossed.
Miz Ducky--your prose has wings!
HEY MITCH!
Hey Nance!
Name: steviedan
sub-universe in order
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 23:16:53
Comments:
the basement is now clean.
agng, been good hearing from you again. along with the rest of you that are just too... hrumphhhh... BUSY to post more often. you know, we kinda give 'em a grammy EVERY week here. as grammy said, "take yer shoes off... set a spell... y'all come back now... he-ah ?".
lg, sales would be best summed up in a monologue from my last post (sat. feb. 24 01:23:25)... the first paragraph, the part about sheepherding.
steely nods in the new guitar player mag:
1) full page ad, page 4, "zoom (an effects processor) portraits" featuring jon herington's mug and credits including of course blah blah blah. music he's currently listening to ? "louis armstrong, ray charles, tom waits, beck (!?!?), tumba festival music from curacao, all the great musicians with steely dan". most memorable concert experience ? "miles davis man with a horn tour in st. louis". musical advice ? "listen with an open mind, play with an open heart". representin'.
2) as i predicted, leave it to an independent shredder label, this time steve vai's favored nations label, to release the kind of larry carlton album that many of you have been hankering for: "two of the world's most respected guitarists, recorded live, raw and exactly like it went down". mr. vai himself sez, "this is the kind of music that real guitar lovers live for. they have a touch, an awareness that is both uncanny yet accessible to listeners of all kinds of music. hear the smiles...". the album will be larry carlton/steve lukather "no substitutions: live in osaka". i have a feelin' this one's hot. i wish they'd have listed the rhythm section...
Name: Miz Ducky
No static at all
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 22:37:49
Comments:
Got that Radio Free Dandom purring along on my Winamp client. Only hiccuped a couple of times on my elderly Windoze 95/P150/DSL setup. It's a beautiful thing. Thanks again, Hoops!
/the Mam'zelle
better living through technology!
Name: hoops
hoops@dandom.com
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 21:54:48
Comments:
Angel--
If you already use a browser (like Internet Explorer) and a Media Player (Like Real Player or QuickTime Player) tthen I think you will have next to no *new* space requirements.
Name: angel
riding the crest of a wave
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 21:28:13
Comments:
Rainy day in L.A. Going to be quite a commute tomorrow
morn. Not looking forward to it. Drove home from work
this evening, playing 2VN. Thought it was appropriate.
Blaise: Great article. More
quotes from the guys then
I have seen so far.
W1P: I agree with you. I too came
to the Dan from the
Rock side of the street. I love 2VN but I adore Katie and
Royal Scam and the early ones, too. Nothing like a smoking
guitar solo to start my heart pumping....
Hoops: I think your Radio Free
Dandom will take up the
last of the space I have on my hard drive. Oh, well.
Great idea, though. Hope to hear it eventually.
breaking just West Of Hollywood....
Name: cara mia
bliss listening
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 20:06:23
Comments:
Thanks so much Jim (Hoops) for this new endeavor. I have it playing and it will remain on 24/7. I usually can't have music going in the pc here, cyber-date/search, keep up with my friends here and world-wide and cry over stocks simultaneously, but this is doable. Great music, great format!
Geoff--then A won't be able to give me dirty looks (when I send my Swiss gent home after his long day) and ask you to dance to DTMA and/or My Old School. Tell her Hi, and we will miss her.
cara mia
Name: The Charmer
under me
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 19:13:26
Comments:
If you missed it, check out VH1's behind the music on the Doobie Brothers. Interviews with Michael McDonald and Jeff "Skunk" Baxter. It has a couple of mentions about their SD connections.
Very interesting to hear Michael and Skunk feuding.
It's on again at 11:00 eastern.
Name: hoops
hoops@dandom.com
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 19:04:17
Comments:
dandom.com presents...
RADIO FREE DANDOM--Tangentially Steely Dan Radio
Basic Features (from a Streaming Video Player): sj06.live365.com:17258
Full Features from Internet Explorer: http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=hoopsmckay
It's an Internet Radio Station that plays Steely Dan, solo work from Becker and Fagen, and the New York Rock and Soul Revue. On top of that, there are also covers of songs written by our favorite duo interpreted by people like Ricky Lee Jones, Joe Jackson, Joe Roccisano Orchestra, and Yellowjackets. Then there is solo material by those who have played with Steely Dan--Chuck Rainey, Chris Potter, Carolyn Leonhart, and Ricky Lawson, just to name a few. Plus you will even find recordings from songs by up and coming artists from the Guestbook (like Floridave) and the Dandom Digest (Jason Newsom's Anomalous Quintet). And to top it all off, there's other rock, jazz and pop standards by great artists of the past 80 years who may have influenced Steely Dan or maybe these artists's songs didn't but they seemed to carry on in the spirit of Steely Dan. Currently, we have about 10 hours of music waiting for you to hear.
Behind all this is a legal broadcast of songs published by ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC with honest-to-goodness royalties paid to the artists who created these masterpieces. NOT an MP3 download site, this broadcast allows you to legally hear recordings that are some how, on some level in the spirit of Steely Dan.
A few technical facts:
* You need a Mac or PC with a live Internet connection that is a 56K modem or higher (DSL, Cablemodem, T1, etc).
* For Macs, you can use iTunes, RealPlayer or QuickTime Player or other similar streaming media players
For Wintel-PCs, you can use RealPlayer, Windows Media Player or QuickTimePlayer or other similar streaming media players
Currently, we have the broadcast optimized for listening with 56K modems and higher; however, by accommodating 56K modems, the quality of sound is a touch reduced; depending on demand by 56K modem users versus those with faster connections, we might switch to a broadcast that is optimized for DSL, Cablemodem, T1, etc., meaning that those with 56K modems might not get as great results. Hopefully we will be able to do a dual broadcast, with optimized broadcasts for each speed of connection--56K and greater than 56K.
Keep in mind also, that U.S. law
prohibits us from playing more than an average of four songs by a single artist
in a three hour period. (Yes, Steely Dan is a different artist that New York
Rock and Soul Revue who is a different artist from Walter Becker solo who is a
different artist from Donald Fagen solo.
While every attempt has been made to avoid this (we play eleven Steely Dan
recordings currently), please let us know so that this can be corrected.
If you have further questions, please email hoops@dandom.com
Name: Hank Silvers
hanksilvers@dog.com
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 18:50:07
Comments:
It was Samuel Goldwyn, or perhaps Dan Quayle, who said it's risky to make predictions, especially about the future.
However, I'll go out on a limb and say that the TM/2000 Guestbook Compilation will be a winner. JW, thanks again for all your effort on behalf of the musicians around here.
Altamira: Congratulations on the new job -- hope it's everything you're looking for.
Expanding Man: People who appreciate cats are certainly welcome here. Keep jumping in when you have something to say.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
"What's his name -- Essinem? Eminem?"
Name: GoodKingRichard
@work
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 17:54:09
Comments:
Damn, had all these things I wanted to say, and thought I'd catch up on my GB reading first... and also a little work too ;-) So, now I've forgotten what was going to say and all I can think is "damn, I wish I'd said that". You're a very clever, witty bunch y'know... yes, including you St. Al (post of the w/e... though others come pretty close). Pause to clean screen.
Anyway, finally watched 3 hours of the Grammys and, well hindsight is 20/20. Knowing the outcome, it was easier to forgive Emimnem (sp?) and others and agree with "the President of the... " whoever he was and generally enjoy the compere-ing, the clueless presentation by artists who you could swear had been on stage and held a mike before (and did Val Kilmer say a word?), want one of those t-shirt bazooka's (just for home fun), and be knocked out by some of the better stuff (Moby, the piano-guy, Christine Aguilera, Macy Gray, Dolly's voice). And then again, what was the Madonna producer thinking? - total crap!
That said, caught Blues Brothers 2000 on TV last night (in close competition with the Wedding Singer), and had just as much fun. Well, with all that Grammy PR hype, sometimes it's hard to remember that: it's the music, stupid! Good to see the Skunk jamming with BB, Clapton, Dr John and Co at the end. Queenie, (not that she's the jealous type) asked if I noticed how beautiful Erykuh Badu was? 'corse with the SD grammy news I'd had plenty of practice at my nonchalance (the Cheshire Cat expression isn't a good look after a while) and discretely wiped away the spittle...
So anyway, I've forgotten what I was going to say and said nothing, so I'll leave you with a present you all deserve:
now that's better isn't it.
Have a good week
Richard&kangaroos
Name: µ
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 17:19:03
Comments:
KD: How 'bout the trade engineered by Pat Croce and Larry Brown getting Dikembe Mutombo and Roshown McLeod for Theo Ratliff and Tony Kukoc? Philly's gotta smell NBA championship now...and Kraus standing still before the trade deadline. Is he crazy... is he high? Nope, just a fuckin' idiot...
Name: Geoff
hat2flat@earthlink.net
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 17:06:51
Comments:
Cara Mia: A has to take care of some family long-postponed obligations that weekend. She'll be at the next big thing though. G
Name:
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 16:56:30
Comments:
rejoice
Name: F-Eminem
tklong@erols.com
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 15:48:52
Comments:
I've spent the better part of the last several days alternately screaming and laughing at the TV as MTV, VH1, etc., provide yet another "Behind the Scenes" look at Destiny's Child (or whatever) and try and pretend that SD winning four Grammy awards was just a nightmare. Should I be pissed at the entertainment industry disrespecting our boys once again our simply rejoice about it?
Name: W1P
wch1ispink@aol.com
Location: LA, CA
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 15:27:21
Comments:
Music appreciation is inherently subjective. I too must stick to my guns -- I believe that Royal Scam is their best Lp and I think the reason for that is that I come at the Dan from the "rock" rather than "jazz" angle. But I also think Animals is Pink Floyd's best Lp, so you can discount my opinion accordingly. Bob, I'll be in the office all week. Can you related to a quarter track tape of a band that performs in the nude?
Name: "dano"
Still Reelin In The Week
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 13:54:20
Comments:
St Al, Tones , Aja , sorry guys still having a lot of Barney Rubble with the computer will be better by Friday,had to put the wee man to Bo Peep anyway.
Watched the highlights this morning with the nipper and he said Dad is that Steely Dan?? They look old (had to laugh),no supper for him tonight.
Hope all you guys are still celebrating on the lash this week wont be long until March then big LLLAAASSSHHH, Blasting out Katy Lied as I say cheerio and have a good week everyone.
Still Reelin "dano"
Name: Expanding Man
munccoor@fox.nstn.ca
Location: Halifax, NS Canada
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 13:51:13
Comments:
Thirdworldman, you make the point about complimenting the rap/hip hop bunch for their good taste in sampling. Even though I suppose most music is derivative in some way, I would have more respect for them if they actually exercised creativity and made something more original, all on their own. I barely consider most of that stuff music anyway; maybe "rhythmic rantings" might be more appropriate. The only rap-like song I've heard that appeals to me is the one used in the Budweiser commercials.
I wrote to Muchmoremusic in Toronto and asked when they would be rerunning the Storytellers ep on the boys, which I managed to miss first time around. They didn't know when it's due back. I'd like to catch that, haven't heard much about it.
Favorite bit in the Classic Albums: Aja piece was Ian Dury saying "There people who read books and there's people who ain't read books...". That plus the Rick Marotta segment.
Ordered the Sony concert from hmv.com yesterday, the only place in Canada I could find it. They tell me it's already been shipped.
I've been getting by until now on a video copy I taped off-air. The first dozen times I watched it I couldn't take my eyes off Carolyn. Now I can't take my eyes off Victoria. I guess Cynthia's time is next.
Man, that is one good concert. Every time I watch I appreciate something else. The trombone in Babylon Sisters, Herington's solo in Kid Charlemagne, but most of all, the closing with Pretzel Logic. I cannot get enough of that one. Did they not use that on tour last year? From what I understand it wasn't played. I swear, it brings tears to my eyes every time I hear the part past the bridge: "I seen them on TV..." etc. That is just so sweet with the horns and the girls singing. Marvelous stuff.
Enjoying the place, glad I found it. Wish I could get to NYC in a few weeks. See you here instead soon.
Name: DrMu
Location: ,
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 13:44:00
Comments:
a pretty darn creative collage
Name: DrMu
Napping Danes class
Location: @theoffice,
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 13:43:19
Comments:
twm: I have to admit I marveled at De La Soul's first one with the Dan sample - it's pretty a pretty darn creating collage. I like the hip-hop fusion of Fugees/Lauryn Hill and of course Eykah. Planted earthlings Donald and Walter could indeed be handing over the Grammy next year to Empress Erykah...
LisaG: That's for the "sore ribs." DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) is some pretty pungent (read - a real sinus opener) stuff that was sometimes used for sore muscles/connective tissue. Because of the orafice-blasting action, use is more in the equii customers than among H. sapiens. It acts as an anti-inflammatory agent in part through quenching of hydroxyl radicals. As mucus membranes are in real danger - I'd be happy to apply the balm directly...
Name: Gina
What? Am I like receptive in sinc today?
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 12:38:50
Comments:
Hi there TWMan, am listening to the remastered Aja and when i submitted my post i thought about the DelaSoul and positive hip-hop sunny tuned when Peg came around :-)
LisaG, have just booted an email into cyberspace, on its way to New Jersey now!
Miz D, like i said, sometimes one
has this in sinc-with-all feel, i entered your drizzled online cottage in the
cyberwoods and started reading the first chapter of your novel.
It's the wings part that got me stuck on a slow train of déja vu sense, for you
kind of described what i felt a few months back when the dutch jazzpianist
Michiel Borstlap e-smiled himself as my muse, making me unfold and use my wings
again!
The warmth i felt and confusion that went along with it had me cornered on that
slow train of déja vu, when reading your Dream-Time words. I hopped off the
train ofcourse, seeking shelter in the scorching sun making my own perspiration
a shower of relief and refuge. No doubt I will return to cyberwoods and visit
your cottage of canardence! As soon as my own memory of enchantment has settled
:-)
The reason I like these Trees -and I discussed this with Blaise only yesterday-, is because this appealed to me as a forum where creative minds and souls gather. Not just to talk about Dannish matters or share Steeled memories and prognosia, also inspire, let go, kick off or take in, be a sit down comedian improvising as in a gangbanged sudden whirl of wit and humor. Not to just drop a few lines and then forget about this place because a life defined asks for cyberless sobriety.
Sometimes it feels like standing in an elevator listening to words of random chatter and mediocrity. When not too crowded, you get to see your own lips move to the rhythm of it all, the voice is your own and then you know this is what life will also always be about as well! Ordinary, buzzing up and down drafting doors that open and close. Catching or kicking germs unknown to its immunity in a sneeze of running noses up and down, up and down. The bellboy or belle gal the perfect figure of speech!
The weight of what we share and have in common as much as in how we differ kind of seized me over the months now. Miz D. says she's obsessed with the Dan music, others might have skipped teaching their kids the alphabet and forced the cryptic lyrics and ingenious stories on them along with lukewarm porridge, oatmeal and pasteurized milk. Or feed black cows if counting sheep didn't work.
A few things in life last. I think i'm gonna take the slow train again, let the sunset and scenery hum me a lullaby, make me dream again ...
Banyan Tree Easy Going Pony Trail
Bow,
G.
Name: Aja
on a cold, gray, rainy Sunday
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 12:25:24
Comments:
What an awesome week definitely, but Hank, I think it CAN get better and I can't wait to find out how much better. I've never met a Steely Dan album (oops) I didn't like and probably never will.
JWMalibu-too cool! All my favorite GB artists sent in a submission and I can't wait to hear what the women have contributed.
Came in to work (yeah, right!) but I can see it's going to be just as hopeless as it is during the week. Anybody up for a chat?
Aja
Name: CJ Heiser
cjstar@ivillage.com
Location: Crown Point, IN USA!
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 12:09:33
Comments:
Hello Everyone,
I'm a huge Dan Fan. No not in stature, just in awe of the pair. Always been
this way. I was in jr. high, when I came across the 8 track of Aja. That did
it. I was hooked. I think that I will NEVER ever hear anything as sweet as
Donald's voice. Or anything as captivating as Walters guitar rifts. I played
Dan during My 14 year old son's toddler times and I must say, he is a gifted
musician. Has to be the subliminal Dan that influenced Him. Anyway that is how
I percieve it to be. Thanks and God bless for all the wonderful music.
Think I'll drink my big black cow and get outta here.....
Name: cara mia
caramiarubia@yahoo.com
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 11:55:23
Comments:
Mr. FORM protester: like Ole, I need a screen squeegie for this one. Hilarious! I wish this was Walter posting anonymously, but I imagine it is one professorial type down in Texas.
Geoff, baby: So glad to know you are coming to NYC. Bringing the mrs?
z,x, steverino: you have so far
begged the question of whether you are gracing us at the big parties at LBB
next month...and if so, will you come out of the shadows and be known to
us???????
Somehow I think you look like Steven Wright for some reason...
sizzling (it's 60 degrees in lower Appalachia today),
cara mia
Name: Lisa G
You've got the muscle. I've got no clue.
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 11:29:33
Comments:
To Dr. Mu-
Re: "LG: DMSO rubbed liberally is an excellent balm for muscle soreness.
However, your wetside popularity will be lower than if you had smeared yourself
with garlic..."
Eh?
Name: thirdworldman
al.coleman@btinternet.com
Location: Glasgow,
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 11:20:05
Comments:
These boards have been buzzin' lately! Great stuff.
One thread that has grabbed me is
the one regarding M&M/hip hop.
The problem I have with most rap/hiphop is that the artists are so damn
egotistical. All their lyrics are about Me, Me, Me. For me, band like Public
Enemy and De LA Soul are so much better because they are delivering a message -
believe it or not. And although musically not the most prodigious, some of the
use of sampling in Hip Hop is really innovative (and they use the Dan a lot!)
Eye know I love you better
Al
Name: Gina
Amused
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 11:00:40
Comments:
and totally not bothered by the dutch Mardi Gras/Carnaval now ruling life in Maastricht and a large part of the country for the consecutive 3 days. I can hear the drums and singing very faint in some distance, should I hold my breath or turn down the volume of my heartbeat. Even the river can carry the laughter and folly across to this part of town. But I guess the wind decided not to!
Sunday musings. I was at the Rickie Lee Jones site earlier this day, where homofobia and teenage suicide threaded in debate and statistics. A result of after-Grammy-whirling and the crisp coated white chocolate dude that stirred ánd had to major shake it, Babylon style! Wow, I read the article about a certain CD megastore compelled to order extra copies of 2 Against Nature, as linked to us by dr Mu if I recall correctly.
***** "This is the year of the expanding Dan" *****
to be continued,
Gdot
Name: DrMu
?
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 10:59:53
Comments:
did I say *some* - I mean like ALL
Name: DrMu
knotty pine us
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 10:58:43
Comments:
z:: While I appreciate some of the musicianship, especially the solos more on Royal Scam and Aja, I'd prefer to listen to TvN: TvN is more intricately integrated with better communication among the players. The fact that each song's core was recorded together was a key factor. But that without well-thought out compositions and ideas would not be enough. On Royal Scam and Aja you hear brilliant linear series of themes With Accompanyment. On TvN, it's more like a number of voices talking at once - but instead of chaos, the voices act synergistically: it's 3-dimensional chess. That why I consider, though it may not sound like it, tcN to be more of a Jazz album that Royal Scam or TvN. From a strategical standpoint, it's a funkier and more elaborate Katy Lied...
LG: DMSO rubbed liberally is an excellent balm for muscle soreness. However, your wetside popularity will be lower than if you had smeared yourself with garlic...
Name: Lisa G
To Ken Vogel
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 10:53:23
Comments:
Your lyrics are terrific, but I must say that my favorite track off your mp3 site is "Oh No, I'm a Waiter Again." A real head-banger.
Which reminds me, have you ever heard Andy Summers' "Mother" off the The Police's Synchronicity? It's what punk (and even grunge) would sound like when it's all grown up and suffering with middle age.
See you at Danfest?
LG
Name:
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 10:35:07
Comments:
Dear Guestbookers: It is with this letter that we, the Fans Of Real Music (FORM), officially denounce and protest the selection of Steely Dan "Two Against Nature" as the Grammy Award's Record Of The Year. We, the loving fans of Eminem, Madonna, Brittany Spears, Coolio, N'sync, Christina Aguilara, The Backstreet Boys, Dr. Dre, Metallica, Limp Biscuit, Snoop Doggy Dog and The Deftones urge you to boycott ALL music that utilizes ANY of the following musical elements: Melody, harmony,phrasing, dynamics, arrangement, good intonation, tonality, modulation, improvisation, real instrumentation, more than two sections and lyrics we understand. We also ask you not to listen to any music that DOES NOT contain acceptable subject matter. Acceptable subject matter would include ONLY the following: Death, gang rape, mayhem, gender changing, bigotry, masturbation, public defecation, penile implants, John Rocker, and school bombings. We are profoundlyconvinced that Mr. Dan is either a communist or an agent of Napster as his covert actions against the Great Recording Industry are obviously an attempt to take food out of the mouths of our country's most loved artists. We urge you to not purchase or see any music that is "jazz based" or has "jazz influence" as it undermines the purpose of music in America. We ask you to write your local representative as Steely Dan's attempts to destroy the Great Recording Industry can not go unnoticed.
Name:
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 10:29:34
Comments:
(damn) ...IS mostly lies.
Name: Geoff Lloyd
hat2flat@earthlink.net
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 10:28:42
Comments:
Hello guestbook. I'm just reading. Interesting.
See you in NYC
Geoff
Name: Listening to Almost Goth...
...and the line came up...
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 10:28:42
Comments:
...as if it knew I was reading your post about Snoozeday so here goes...
I'm pretty sure that what she's telling us mostly lies.
Name: Lisa G
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 10:26:57
Comments:
You go, z.
Name: z
x
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 10:15:44
Comments:
W1P- I agree with you on the`airplay situation- even in
NY, the only stations that play SD are 104.3 (classic rock) and a few others
that just play a few tracks from Nitefly and the hit records (Peg, Hey 19,
Rikki)
On the other thing though I have to stick to my guns and say my OPINION is that
most of the older records sound inferior musically to their later stuff.
I think they feel that way too. Listen to the hipper grooves,changes,
arrangements,and fills they used on their recnt tour and Plush Jazz-Rock Party.
Kid Charlemagne was given a much hipper groove than the original, and even
though Carlton played a great solo on the original, it just didn't work with
the rhythm section- too many notes, no space, no groove etc..
This doesn't mean I thought Herrington's solo was better, but at least it had a
chance to fit in with a superior rhythm section groove.
The same held true with the rest of the old stuff they did they did this past
year or so.
I know most of the people here lost their virginity to that stuff, so this
music is filled with a cathexis that reason can't put a dent in so I'll stop
here.
But speaking of beating a dead horse, this idiotic staff writer for Newsday, the
leading paper on Lon Guylind (where I've been marooned for the last few
days)came out with ANOTHER entire article on why Eminem should have won the
album of the year and SD should've lost!
Again, this idiot accuses the judges of "editing out uncomfortable lyrics
in favor of 2 aging pop stars"(!)
Then she points out that "Marshall Mather's" sold 8 million copies to
TaN's less than 1 million. As if that justifies reversing the decision?!
Then she says that TaN "doesn't come close to being the duo's finest work"(!)
Don't ask me what she bases that opinion on, because she doesn't bother to say
why this is so!
Then she talks about "Cousin Dupree's" lyrics being about incest,
Gaslighting Abbie about adultery and murder, Janie Runaway about a menage a
trois and Jack of Speed about a speed freak.
Of course she leaves out the complete meaning of the lyrics and I don't even
think she knows what she's trying to get at anymore.
It looks like I'm going to have to write a letter to "Snoozeday",
even though anyone who knows anything about journalism is aware that once a
writer becomes an expert on a subject, they make them write on another subject
so they won't alienate people with too many facts.
Name: Miz Ducky
the duck takes a bow
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 09:57:04
Comments:
Lisa G, KD: thank you both for your lovely compliments!
Y'know, writing stuff, especially when one publishes on the Web, can be a weird, sort of dissociated experience. One (pre-Internet) writer once likened publishing a poem to throwing a feather into the Grand Canyon and waiting to hear the echo, and I think it's only gotten worse that way. Most of the time I keep going, however slowly, because at least I'm keeping myself amused. But I'm not too proud to admit it feels good to get actual strokes from folks for what I do.
If people are curious to see what else I'm up to writing-wise: On the non-Dan-related front, I have a short story that will be coming out in the next issue of a webzine called InterText, www.intertext.com (they've published a bunch of other stuff of mine over the years). I also have the first three chapters of a novel I've been farting around with for some time up on my website, plus links to other scribblings. Head for www.drizzle.com/~mizducky and click the "Writerly Exploits" link in the left-hand menu panel.
As to more Dan-related musings: I will of course write up a full report (well, maybe not mentioning *every* single misadventure) of my upcoming jaunt to NYC for the DanFestivities. And I'm brooding on some other random ideas ... we'll see which one(s) hatch.
/the Mam'zelle
thanking y'all for this moment of shameless self-promotion and returning you
now to your regularly-scheduled guest book
Name: LG
to JDubs
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 09:07:52
Comments:
Credits and lyrics on the way.
Thanks again for all you do.
Name: DrMu
maybe once - I'll edit a post before submitting - nah
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 09:03:08
Comments:
ago
Name: DrMu
Ninja DanFans
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 09:01:52
Comments:
Blaise: Sounds like the guys was trying to balance left-wing backlash with a rational explanation of Walter's jokes and SD's victories. Is it an upset if the audio guys - the ones who know someting abour notes and how they should sound are big fans of 2vN??
Clas: I tried to get a thread doing some months abo on the Next One. It seems to me also, that they'll "branch out" and get a little more experimental. Having said that tvN is sneaky adventurous into bop/funk. Warner may or may not want stuff similar to TvN, but I doubt they'll actually try to exert *any* influence on what, how, and when they record. Thus Donald and Walter really have ultimate freedom to do whatever they want to. From earlier interviews I think there was some pressure that if TvN bombed, then they would lose freedom within their contract or be dropped. Frankly, at this point, they've got their own studios, can now afford fezo for representation - they go where the muse takes them without looking over their shoulder. If Warner doesn't promote the next one, the D&W can drop 'em like a hot potato.
JW: an awesome lineup dude!!! Can't wait!
From the Houston Chronicle this morning. There is a God!
NEWSMAKERS
ANGRY MADONNA LEFT AWARDS
"Apparantly not everyone enjoyed this year's Grammy Awards. The New York Post reports that Madonna stormed out of L.A.'s Staples Center in disgust after losing three times, to Macy Gray, Steely Dan, and U2. Madonna, up for album of the year, record of the year, and female pop vocal performance. became increasingly agitated, witnesses say, as her hopes for an award ebbed. 'When they announced that Steely Dan won album of the year [my insert: pop category], she just had this look on her face - like she couldn't believe it,' one witness said. "When it was announced that U2 got the record of the year, she'd had it and got up and left just as U2 was taking the stage for their acceptance speech.'
How rude of Madonna to leave before Steely Dan won their richly deserved 4th award of the evening! ;-)
Name: Lisa G
heeey
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 08:40:42
Comments:
You know what, Clas, you're right. The women have GOT to go.
Actually a word about my song: I wrote it before I was a Dan head. I wonder what impact the boys would have had on me if I ventured out now as a novice songwriter? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......... I know! I'd be a lunatic when it came to production. I played the recording for a friend of mine who does a lot of studio work. He said that it was good, gave it a genre, even, much to my chagrin. (He's heavy into marketing ploys.) Then he said that now it needs to be produced. Oh bother.
z,x-yup, had school this week. Thanks for the sympathy--LOL. Actually had Monday off, but spent it cleaning floors/bathrooms and doing laundry. Joy, huh? So my next real break is April 9-13 and the weekends that surround it. Are you making an appearance at the Danfest in March?
Gina-haven't heard back from you yet about blab.com. Please write.
Miz D-LOOOOOOOVE your website. Spent some time last week perusing through it. We need more about you. Haven't gotten around to shouting to you.
stevieD-how are those TvN CD sales going?
Dr.Mu-Donald to Stevie cracked me up side-ways. It hurts.
LG
Name: blaise
sorry, angel...
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 07:42:46
Comments:
""I'm beginning to think that maybe the whole
thing is fixed, just like professional wrestling or professional football or
something like that," Becker said, possibly alluding to the group's
popularity with NARAS' many audio engineers."
The author then goes on to hint that the Hall Of Fame could be the result of
such a fix.(?)
Warner carries a whole lot of weight. already, Many channels for exposure. The
question "Who is that guy Steely Dan?" comes up in the mainstream
press as a result of the Grammy sweep.
http://www.sonicnet.com/news/story.jhtml?genreNameForDisplay=Rock&genreDirectoryName=rock&id=1439710
Name: angel
slow down, I'll tell you when....
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 07:20:05
Comments:
Just checking in on a busy Sunday Morning. We angels
are kept real busy on Saturday night, watching over all you
sinners....
Blaise: On that Giant article. If
you read the letter on the
ODP, you see they refer to Giant/Warner.
I believe the News article says Warner owned 50% and is now going to acquire
the rest. So whatever Warner is, Steely Dan has already been dealing with them
to a certain extent.
Will see how this all shakes out.
I've got the News....
Name: blaise
on CD ctalk
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 07:05:52
Comments:
Cousin Dupree included on Grammy Nominees 2001 CD.
http://www.virginmega.com/default.asp?aid=376
Nice work, JWMalibu.
Name: Blaise
tangled up in thread
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 05:21:11
Comments:
Clas - Not only will they be allowed to make another
album, they are expected to do it following this latest batch of trophies.
An angel appeared and I got the news.The big new is, I think, Warner acquiring
Giant records. Now that may change something. It may translate in bigger
budgets for the latest winners of Album of the year and it also might mean a
more effective promotion machine, and a wider distribution circuit. I'm
speculating here, of course. Fact is, WB and DF once slammed the Time Warmer
empire and I expect there could be friction as well. I think that piece of news
is crucial. It could mean Steely Dan hitting the big time in a way they haven't
since Aja, if they manage to play it right. We'll see. It's a promising saga in
the making. Thanks angel.
Clas - Beck is not that big. Actually, he's pretty small but he wants to be the
white Prince yet remain a slacker. I like that a lot. One of the few true
orgimals in the latest Ursprung of young artists on the scene, I think.
Clas - Btw, how's the guestbook going? Maybe I'll go checkit out again.
Mark in Boston - Dennis Miller is
often brilliant but nort always. Post-graduate studies might help here in the
long run. But yeah, he's a funny guy, usually. His work on Monday Night
Football is a breath of fresh air. The last time Al Michaels laughed like
this,he was watching his old pal OJ's "absolutely, 100% not guilty video".
Btw, I think that was the last time Miller had a shower.
It's true that Walter comes off like a retired Vermont farmer with a tan. One
clever enough to come up with killer ice cream.
The same ice cream Nicole brown never had the time to fully digest, according
to the coroner.
Am I on a gross rant here already?
Sorry.
RE: The new Dylan
"You don't wanna fuck with
Shady. Shady will fucking kill you."
Not the kind of rivals the Dan posse wishes for, I'm sure...
speaking of gross, I have listened to the Marshall Mathers and I like Eminem
only when he doesn't take himself too seriously. His stuff can be funny and
catchy i.e. Drug Ballad. The production of it, especially the work on sound
dynamics, is great but the music often is minimal and takes a backseat to
low-level prose exploring of the unsaid in American culture.set to a drum
machine. But whoever samples a John Bonham signature pounding shows some taste.
Once he loses this adolescent naivete and stops being the poster boy for the
self-involved, he might become a contender. Then again, maybe not. I'm not even
sure he came second in the vote count. How pretentious of those involved in his
latest record to claim they were robbed.
Poetic justice.
No, not the boring movie with Tupac the rapper in it.
Thanks for the continuous link flow, guys. Keep it coming.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 03:23:41
Comments:
Lars - seriously, Roots are a good hip & hop shit. My son loves them so I have listened a lot to them. Great band. Fender Rhodes and a big outstanding drummer. And kind of Mozart strings in the background. Probably the best new music I like today.
And about Beck, I couldn't belive you were talking about old Jeff so I consulted my son:
"...I'm a loser baby / so why don't you kill me...". He lived in a garbage-can until he made it? Now he's the biggest?
Strange, I'm like you Lars, I don't know shit anymore.
Dr Mu - thanx buddy. That is really comforting to hear that. But I think, IF Steely Dan is allowed to do one more album, they really have to come up with something new. I think they have to find a new sound, a new groove kind of... like Jackson Browne did on "Next Voice You Hear".
And speaking about J Browne (and B Hornsby as well) - he never searched for the ultra-steady drum-groove, HE NEVER SEARCHED FOR IT, still his songs are steady as a living metronome. I think the Steely Dan searched for that "steady" so hard, they just lost it.
Jackson Browne, cool and relaxed, just went with the flow, and hey... there it was, that steady beat, no tempo-changes there, no way. And the harmony singing is clock-clean.
It's like if you're searching for love - if you chase it, you'll never find it.
And JW Malibu - do you realize that the woman are beginning to take over the GBook-CD? If it hasn't been for them, I'd probably have 2 songs on the CD.
So let us limit the woman-participating next year down to 1 woman.
Got to work,
Clas
Name: alden
almartin@paradise.net.nz
Location: inglewood, no n.zealand
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 01:13:12
Comments:
i cant believe their 2AN album was not even mentioned here ,when it was relesed almost a year ago , and now it was headlines within the news , oh man!!
slightly disappointed with the album , but i guess thats spiritual-music development.!
AJA is still outstanding , a bit like a quasar!
kiwi
Name: KD
nbatalk.com
Date: Sunday, February 25, 19101 at 00:36:57
Comments:
Miz D- appreciate it, thanks. I'm here, just can't post as much with the 28.8 and new laptop. I;m on the seven day a week job, those tall black men just don't know when to stop, and I although I read everything on the GB, I'm loving it too much to post. I'm just glad everyone's getting back to SD related material, and...
please, got damn, keep writing. I dig your stuff, I'm sure everyone else does, and I love reading it. Whenever you get time, lay it on us.
Right now, I'm on to Atlanta/Denver.
My second (better paying) gig? I shouldn't be telling, but I've had a sip or two,
www.sincontroller.com
Name: Boston Rag
Dennis Miller slams SD
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 23:21:15
Comments:
Dennis got in some funny shots at Donald and Walter last
night.
(Repeat showing Sunday night on HBO)
He said "Steely Dan should NOT be allowed to be on prime time television ever again. They look like they should be on the X-Files. Those two guys in Steely Dan look like Ben & Jerry just out of rehab".
I love it!
Mark in Boston
Name: JWMalibu
www.thekatbox.com/casellastudio
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 22:50:20
Comments:
"TM/2000" ~ The Guestbook Compilation is ready to go to press! We've got submissions from 15 artists this year, so there is only enough room (just barely!) for ONE submission per artist....sorry to those who submitted multiple compositions; I did the best I could with the time constraints for a single CD. Anyway ~ here's the final lineup:
1. The Catwalk/Clas
2. Now That I Have You/Lisa G.
3. Trouble/Howard
4. Say Goodbye to Summer/FloridaDavid
5. Tamarama/Mr. Chow
6. Judy Ingalls/Roy.Scam
7. Sonic Boulevard/Doc Kelly
8. Geppetto's Blues/Ken Vogel
9. Delta/Jk
10. I Remember Your Name/Gina
11. The Cat Who Walked On The Piano/Ruby Baby & JWMalibu
12. Old Town Suite/F#Maj9
13. At The Door/Hutch
14. Like A Steely Dan Movie/YGK
15. I'll Be Your Pain/Schwinn
A. Artists: please send me your "credits" information in an e-mail ~ please word it EXACTLY as you want it to read. Include all information you wish to include ~ here's mine as an example:
The Cat Who Walked On The Piano
Ruby Baby & JWMalibu
Ruby Baby: lyrics
JWMalibu: composition/production, piano, synths, electic bass, guitar, flute,
percussion & vocals
Recorded at Casella Studio, February 2001
Copyright 2001, Casella Music
www.thekatbox.com/casellastudio
jwmalibu@msn.com
B. For those with lyrics: if you wish to include lyrics, please e-mail those as well ~ there'll be a separate lyric sheet.
Thanks for letting me be of service!
JayDubz
Name: bob tedde
lovebob@Rockola.com
Location: San Diego, CA
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 22:18:28
Comments:
W1P: "...."Little Willie" to "Fox On The Run" " !!!!!!
Wow, now THAT'S a sub refference.
Closest others I could think of were: "Saturday Night" to "You
Made Me Believe In Magic"
or
"Green Eyed Lady" to "Don't Call Us, We'll Call You".
Hey, let's link by phone soon. Something tells me this is a good time to start pounding on the HOB doors.
lovebob
(Hi to A & A)
Name: Chris Cleppe
major_domo2000@yahoo.com
Location: raleigh, nc usa
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 21:38:46
Comments:
Late 70's smokin the shit that killed Elvis sitt'n in a car late at night with my home skillets in a deserted city park parking lot, brew, sing'n, air guitar, air drums, air horns, air keyboard - steely cranked way up, look'n for the law, hitt'n my buddy in the back of the head, keeps rewinding, forwarding, pissing me off.........flash back...........oh yeah.
Name: Miz Ducky
vicarious congrats
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 21:00:19
Comments:
Hey KD -- glad to see you resurfacing on the GB. I missed you, man.
Yes, I too was getting congratulations on behalf of Don&Walt from my friends who know of my obsession. A couple of different folks e-mailed me, and a couple of my co-workers commented upon it too. Not that this has anything to do with the big ol' 2vN poster I have up on my office wall, no sirree bob ... :-)
/the Mam'zelle
more than happy to pass on the good vibes
P.S. A shout-out to Ed Beatty, with whom I shared a lovely chat over lattes this morning while he was up here in Seattle on business. Just love love love that Steely tourism. Next month in New York City!
Name: Walked into the
local grocerymart last night...
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 19:11:44
Comments:
...and what was playing but "Your Gold Teeth II". They were playing whatever station they pipe in. Usually I hate shopping, but that was cool...
I think the relatively low profile of 2vsN is due to the fact that there were no videos released for the singles. Thus no VH-1/MTV exposure. To me, it makes their Gram success even more heroic, because it was based the music and not the hype.
Way 2 b!
t
Name: DrMu
no straw dip hats
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 18:56:09
Comments:
Whoa, you all are right about the sales thing. Only noticed a bump in Garth Brooks sales in the heart of Texas...
http://www.canoe.ca:80/JamMusic/feb23_gramazon-can.html
and
http://www.nypost.com:80/02232001/entertainment/23065.htm
Name: Almost Gothic Negative Girl
ddietrich@netpipe.com
Location: Amen Corners, Bliss
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 18:42:11
Comments:
Heard playing this afternoon in a Nob Hill grocery store in Pacific Grove (between Monterey and Pebble Beach, California) "What a Shame About Me." I have heard other cuts from 2 v N there before. This was the first time for this particular song.
Name: DrMu
nippy darlin'
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 18:35:49
Comments:
Rumored comments made by Donald Fagen to Stevie Wonder:
10. "It's only Ray-Bans for
me, too"
9. "We're Donald and Walter, the other white meat"
8. "We can't read sight read music either!"
7. "Just what is the secret life of plants?"
6. "We shake our booty alike!"
5. "I heard M&M has a crush on you"
4. "If you have a spare week, I'll describe Toni Braxton's dress to
you"
3. " I can't believe neither of us got even a mention in Ken Burns' Jazz
series"
2. "Two words for your next release: Go Mu!"
1. "If I spill Deli mustard on a Grammy, how do you get the stain
out?"
W1P: You raise an excellent point. Saw an old friend at a meeting in June who I remember from years back was a big fan of Steely Dan. At the time of the meeting he had no idea that Steely Dan had a new release. He later thanked me by e. Fire Giant!... too late, they lost their Commonwealth Charter to AOL-Time-Warner- Ted Turner-WWF-whatever...
Name: angel
Little bit of heaven, 94.7. KMET, tweedle dee...
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 17:59:09
Comments:
W1P: I won't EVER listen to The Wave for that very
reason.
Besides that fact that Kenny G rules there. I can't believe
there is nothing to listen to in L.A. Thank goodness I finally
bought a discman this past year. Now I don't care what
they play on the radio. BTW, I don't commute by car.
KD: At work on Thursday I put the
picture of the Dan
getting their Grammy up on my door. I was indeed getting
congratulations. As you say, not like WE did anything.
Felt good anyway. Thanks, guys. Basking in your reflected
glow. :-)
Turn up the Eagles, the neighbors are listening....
Name: KD
nbatalk.com
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 17:39:51
Comments:
Andy Gill- I thought that was ginger ale. I do like the goatee you had, the greatest remnant from the 90s: guys who had beards during the 80s that shaved them into goatees, but kept them big and unwieldly, so they might as well have been beards anyway.
Who else is getting the attention from fans after the SD wins? All I'm getting the last few days, "props, man, Steely Dan!" "Good job, Steely Dan!" Like I played the vibe solo on 'Negative Girl.' I still dig it. What a week.
Name: W1P
wch1ispink@aol.com
Location: Grammy Fallout USA, CA
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 16:42:01
Comments:
You would expect a sales spike for 2vN in light of the Grammy wins. But I think there is a little more to the "Dan spike" which is the result of "modern" radio programming.
My friends know that I'm a DanHead (naming recently born daughter Aja was first clue). So when many of them watched the Grammys this week, they were prompted to call me to offer congrats (as if I somehow won something). But what was interesting was the number of these folks in their mid-30s to mid-40s who did not have the slightest idea that the Dan had a new Lp out (including, for example the 43 year-old keyboard player of Which One's Pink?). Even though these people are not "DanHeads" they do love the Steely Dan stuff they remember from the radio. Which started me thinking about modern radio programming, particularly in a culturally diverse market like Los Angeles.
Spanish language programming now consumes nearly 50% of the available stations in our area. Therefore, English language programming is much less diverse here than it might be in a midwestern city. The english music formats are divided up into "old AM radio oldies," "classic rock," "classic rock that really rocks," "soul oldies," "easy listening," "today's Top 40 rock/pop," "alternative" and "smooth jazz -- The Wave" In this lineup, there is nowhere for a new release by the Dan to go. The oldies/classic rock stations wont play a new release from the Dan because its new. The new rock/pop/alternative stations wont play the new Dan release because it doesn't fit their format. "The Wave" does play Jack of Speed, but most rock fans I know refuse to listen to this format (they're still bitter about KMET being replaced by the "Wave", I know I am).
So its not much of a surprise that the run of the mill "rock" fan (or the casual Dan fan), would not even know that 2vN exists. Then comes the Grammys. All of a sudden, for that type of fan, it's like "Steely Dan has a new album out? Really? I love those guys" And I think this accounts for an extra "Grammy bounce"
I can't wait for the the "broadcast" of wireless internet radio stations into cars so we no longer have to be at the mercy of radio programmers and demographic particularities.
Name: W1P
wch1ispink@aol.com
Location: LA, CA
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 16:19:11
Comments:
You're right z, that Royal Scam Lp just hasn't stood the test of time musically. What a weak effort that is. Why did they even bother to put that out? I mean, the guitar work is pathetic. There's no power to the horn sections. No drama to the vocal performances. What a waste of vinyl. And that Countdown Lp too -- I mean, hell burn the master, don't let that thing ever see the light of day again. Sell the kids for food. What's this Lost Wages thing? And I hate oleander, all it does it line the freeways in California's central valley. Any major dude will tell you that the music of Countdown to Pretzel Scam is so far inferior to Aja/Gaucho that it is like comparing "Meet the Beatles" to "Sgt. Pepper" or "Born to Run" to Born in the USA or Little Willy to Fox on the Run or "10" to "No Yield" or, dare I say it, Dark Side of the Moon to the Wall. I gotta run -- my CD "wrack" needs some cleanin out.
Name: Andy Gill
@ The Independent
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 15:42:11
Comments:
Q - I'm with Gary.
PS: I was shitfaced on "Making of AJA". Did you see how much scotch I
was drinking?
Name: z
x
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 15:28:31
Comments:
Lisa G.- You poor kid, you had to work this week?
We were off for intersession break thank God!
I just wound up writing arrangements for the kiddies and doing a 4 hour solo
guitar gig for a friend.
But back to work Monday (aghh!).
Maybe we can play during the Spring Break.
SC
Name: Gary Katz
lost in Yonkers
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 14:46:15
Comments:
Q- IMHO the Emimen cd sounds great! The production is fantastic. Great grooves on a lot of the songs. I'm not talking about the lyrics, but the way it was produced in my mind is the reason why Dr. Dre won producer of the year.
Name: Q
Down in Tampa.........
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 14:38:18
Comments:
Hey, "Q" find another handle , man - I'm the only Q here!
St. Al - not an attack , just curious and always looking to be educated - you say you like Eminem " a lot" - what is it you like ? I don't hate the guy, I just don't see much there. What am I missing. I ask because virtually every other music you've ever said you dig is the same stuff I do.
The GB IS on fire!!!!!!!!!!
LeBar bound!
Q
Name: Lars
-
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 13:58:47
Comments:
I suppose it´s great to get those grammies, but am I the only one who never heard a single word or song of Emeinem(spelling?) or Radiohead? I must confess that I hardly listening to the (music-)radio anymore and the closest I got to hip-hop (or whatever MM is doing) is Erykah Badu and US2. I´m probably old and lost in modern music but I think the guys deserved the attention and something to put on the fireplace. I´m pleased to to impress my kids with knowing something about a winner. Well, I know a lot about Joni Mitchell and Pat Metheny too, but those minorities doesn´t count in that crew.
Name: DrMu
knitting dome house
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 13:57:01
Comments:
No wonder 2vN has a bit of a live sound, compared with say Aja. Missed thise interview the first time around:
http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=137716149/pagename=/RP/GENRES/cms_genres.html/fid=193593
Name: angel
It's a glamour profession, the L.A. concession
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 13:22:19
Comments:
St. Al: I agree with Lisa. The compliment was freely
given by me and not asked for by you. Enjoy it. :-)
Today's L.A. Times Business
Section pg C3. I leave the
internet url's to Mu and Big Fan.
Warner Music Looks to Complete Giant Records Deal.
Warner Music Group is in
negotiations to purchase
the remaining 50% stake of Giant Records,
the Burbank label that is home to best album
Grammy winner Steely Dan.
Tones: Loved you grammy post this
morning. I can just see
Elton singing on Cousin and hugging Don at the end, fists
raised high.....
Lisa: Great minds think alike.....
Living hard will take its toll......
Name: Almost Gothic Negative Girl
ddietrich@netpipe.com
Location: Amen Corners, Bliss
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 13:05:44
Comments:
Haven't been posting 'round these parts for awhile, but I do the lurk-thang now and again. I'm just so jacked about the boys finally getting some of the recognition that they so justly deserve. Two Against Nature was my Album of the Year after my first 3 or 4 run-throughs on February 29th last year.
I go see alot of live music, and I'd have to say that their Shoreline show last summer was my favorite show of the year. I'm truly hoping that they get out and do some shows this summer or fall--whatever can be arranged. I'll be there. Strike while the iron is hot.
Listening to Alive in America right now; Walter's Book of Liars is gettin' to me in a good way, again...
mahalo ~
linda
Name: DrMu
w/ Ubu
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 12:33:09
Comments:
sir
Name: DrMu
Natty Domage
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 12:32:21
Comments:
fezo: You are correct, sit. The part of "Stan" that contained actual notes and singing was written and performed by Dido, M&M and Elton work for the same label. Evidently the whole thing Wed. night was a publicity stunt (duh) by the Record Co. (source: FoxNews this am by a entertainment correspondent who also happens to be a DanFan). Dido was bumped Wed., so they gave her a duet earlier on Grammy night.
Name: Eminem
GayWhiteBoy.com
Location: WhiteGhetto,USA, forlorn ?
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 11:39:29
Comments:
Thanks St. Al- At least freedom of speech is alive and well on the GB!
Name: Lisa G
To St. Al
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 11:37:48
Comments:
Nobody I know thought you were fishing for validation, veiled or not.
You are being honored because you truly deserve some kudos for running this way
hip posting forum. Now take the compliment and enjoy it. Yeesh!
Name: "dano"
anyone for a rabbit??
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 11:00:44
Comments:
Dano in the chat room??
Name: StAlphonzo
stalfnzo@seanet.com
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 10:58:39
Comments:
Just a follow up...
My post was NOT intended as some thinly veiled attempt at validation from all of you. I really appreciate the comments but the mere fact you're all here participating in this GB is enough validation. Please don't bother, but thanks just the same.
And I also want to clarify another point I made a week or so ago. Post whatever/whenever the hell you want. Do not feel the need to apologize or make excuses. I almost wish I hadn't said anything. Again, it was merely a suggestion.
Debra: No teeth
StAl
Name: oops, sorry
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 10:19:01
Comments:
It's St. AlphonZo. Editors! You're fired.
Name: fezo
onceinabluemoon
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 10:16:18
Comments:
so i guess i should have know this but that tune which Elton John was singing wasn't actually part of the Emimem song. instead it was something by an artist named Dido? still liked the Emimem bit--a lot--but can't quite figure out the point of Elton's part now.
what a great letter on the ODP. if i could be 1/5 the writer that Walter is, i'd be a happy man.
ole: yep, that was quite a bit of Shelby Lynne for me to enjoy. not sure why, but felt like a nervous school boy whenever she clutched at the top of her plunging pants.
Name: LG
Anyone got the syprup?
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 10:15:08
Comments:
Again...someone got here before me.
Yes, St. Al. Thank you for this. It is a dantastic place for fans to gather and discuss. Truly, it is work worthy of honoring.
Let's see, and the Dannie for "Most Fun DanFan Guest Book Site" goes to....St. Alphonso!!!!!!
(Have a nice pancake breakfast on us.)
But who should the presenters be?
Name: Lisa G
Oooooo....K
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 09:58:53
Comments:
Hey z, how was your week? Sorry I didn't get back at ya. This was an unusually exhausting and hectic week at school for me, but I didn't forget about you. There have been countless meetings after school. And, I spent most of the Grammies organizing my school's present curriculum for review--the mute button is a beautiful thing. We'll have to get together at some point. Let me know when you're free. It might be summer for both of us, maybe. You making any of the NYC fest?
A commentary:
I have been reading the last two day's posts this morning in an effort to catch
up, and I suddenly became compelled to post right away. But as it always
happens, somebody is thinking like me, only they got here first. I continue to
read and find St. Al actually admitting to liking some of Eminem and others. I
see that Hoops comes back and compliments Elton John's performance with him,
too.
While I've never heard anything by Em prior to the Grammy broadcast, I must say that I rather enjoyed the duo's performance. No I don't particularly like rap. I, however, felt that it was entertaining at the very least and that EJ was in fine form. Simple music, yes. But a professional performance--EJ proved to be as polished as ever. And I didn't mind Eminem at all. In fact I got into it. Surprising as it may seem to me, especially.
I give the kid credit for saying "take it for what it was, and not for what it isn't." (Ok so this is a Grammy awards show, not a Grammar awards show.) But I wholeheartedly agree: Take it for what it is and don't try to compare it to anything it isn't like SD. Now granted, I have only heard the one offering and from what I understand, it was heavily edited. But if that's a representation of what he does then my feelings still stand.
This hyped up comparison thing is why I think that awards and music contests are so unfair. You can't compare Eminem to Steely Dan because they are so different in so many ways. In fact the whole Grammy voting thing is so much a matter of individual taste that it doesn't mean anything outside of who was chosen to be honored by the members of that organization. It's not who's better or who's the best. It's an honor by a group of people who we expect to be in-the-know. But when hype and celebrity creep in, how honorable is it? Now, don't get me wrong--I don't want to cheapen the experience of our boys getting any honor. We know they deserve to be honored out the grand whazoo. But to continue to lash out at the "losers" with a "na-na-na-na-na" attitude shows no real class. I think the boys deserve better representation than that.
Anyway, I'll get down from my soapbox, having made many a hypocritical remark against the validity of the Grammy awards, myself, in the past. Prepare to open fire on me, if you wish. I'll take it.
Another act that I have gained more respect for now is none other than Christina Aguilera (sp?). IMHO, her performance was awesome from a singer's standpoint and really kicked butt. The girl has chops--no one can deny that. And I think she's interesting when not singing standard bubble-gum pop fare. I think the lack of Britney Grammies must be from the realization that all of her tunes sound the same, and she's not really more than a PR machine. If you think that Eminem is a PR machine, then you're entitled. Perhaps he is. But that doesn't mean that he may have said something somewhere that is meaningful to someone. I felt his performance was sincere. He's not as deep and genius-laden as SD, but he may have a place somewhere. And the grammies aren't always about the best music anyway.
Sorry this may be lacking in coherence. It's basically stream-of-consciousness because my editor is gone for the weekend. But my feelings are real and raw. Take them as you wish.
Name: Possible Grammy
repercussions...
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 09:30:36
Comments:
Now that the improbable but infinitely deserved has happened, does this mean:
- A future reference to "that Steely dude and his brother, scammin' on my Grammy" on Eminem's next album?
- A Dolly Parton guest vocal on the Dan's next one?
- Elton dueting (?) with the Dan on "Cuz" at the Hall of Fame induction to show support and tolerance for incestuous letches?
- Don & Walt show up to give Erykah Badu her album of the year Gram next year?
- Talentless posers will try to imitate the recent success of real songwriters and musicians and stop making videos?
- They're laughing at the frozen rain in hell these days?
- Four words: "We're going to Disneyland!"?
{{{{{{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Days later and I'm still "reelin". All this and they didn't even have to release "Jack of Speed" as a single. Wow. In the words of a great American poet:
""Cest la vie" say
the old folks,
goes to show you never can tell"
toner
Name:
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 09:23:57
Comments:
Oh, my God! What a treacherous post!
Name: z
x
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 09:17:19
Comments:
This used to be one of the few websites left where you
could bathe in depression, alienation, and all those other good things that the
boys croon about in their tunes.
But now the Grammys have turned this place into a veritable Sodom &
Gommorah! Look at the mess! Spilled liquor all over the rug! Dried out vomit
containing qualudes not seen since the early 70s!
I tried to escape in the "borrowed" car from the HFTCI, but only
found joy and frivolity everywhere I went.
At the local Sam Ash, the air was blanketed with early Dan that hadn't been
heard since the last days of Nixon. That wimpy-voiced "Dirty Work"
reminding me how little of the pre-Aja period (other than "Do It
Again" and "Dr. Wu")stands up musically.
Rather than acknowledge the insousciant clerks' musical taste, I stormed out of
the place and found refuge in the local Tower Record store, only to discover
the Grammy Award bin was completely sold out of TaN, and stock full of Enema
& M, Beck, Radiohead etc...!
After purchasing some Chas. Koechlin chamber music, Phil Woods/Gordon Beck
Live, and Lenny Breau Live at Donte's, I retreated back to the
"borrowed" Neon and turned on the radio.
At last I had escaped the non-stop Danfest!
As I cruised down the LIE, I went from station to station, counting on the
immutable rule of the pre-programmed radio market to silence this never-ending
orgy of Danitude, and they did not let me down!
Even the dreaded "Classic Rock" WAXQ played only their little Fred
Zeppelin cuts.
I sat back in my seat,happy with the knowledge that Das Kapital and mediocrity
had won again.
Here in my little FM retreat, the masses were as Dan-ignorant as they were
meant to be!
Oh joy! Oh Playlist!
Name: "dano"
set the video player
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 09:13:31
Comments:
For all the UK pondlife, Highlights of the Grammys are
on BBC1
at 11.35 after Match Of The Day ,and apparently going behind the scenes talking
to the winners, so have a few Britney Spears and hopefully catch the top guys
acceptance speech???
Regards Dano
Name: Debra
gag me and mace me
Location: all tied up, no one to blow
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 08:50:27
Comments:
I, for one, am willing to take on the undaunting task of felating Saint Al. Even though I never doubted his motivations for having this Guestbook.
Guess I just have a giving nature?
Name: Will The
Real Slim Shaddey
Location: Shut the Fuck, up Shut the fuck up
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 08:44:49
Comments:
Re: Dr. Dre....I agree, if anyone knows anything about robbing, stealing, cheating, killing, gang banging.....it's Dr. Dre
Name: µ
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 07:38:01
Comments:
Blaise: This quip from the article has me ROFLMAO. Sorry for the cut and paste St. Al.
"While a substantial portion of the voters may have found Eminem's lyrics too offensive, and therefore not deserving of the prize, some may have also felt it was not his turn. Cutting-edge pop performers such as Bob Dylan, The Beatles, and The Rolling Stones were all shut out in their early days."
Yeah, M&M shows Beatle-like promise: Get real!
How 'bout dem Foo Fighters St. Al?
Name: "dano"
My finger hurts
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 06:54:17
Comments:
St Al, loved your post mate ,it sent shivers down my spine just reading it,well done mate.
M, regarding Nearly Dan on 18th March at the Jazz Cafe, blast me on the e-mail, they are excellent and thinking of going myself so keep in touch??
Lady B, Jen I want to go out on the lash with you two ,any chance of swimming over the pond??
Boston , Is that right Tony singing Dirty Work on the new series , we dont get it here till end of year me thinks but well worth the wait ??
Great posts by all over the last
few days Doooooooooooooozers
keep em comin"
Name: Blaise
and a serious, mercyless listen it will be...
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 04:54:30
Comments:
... given bold statements such as these:
Rap innovator Dr. Dre, who produced favored candidate Eminem's The Marshall Mathers LP, isn't shy about his view: "To be perfectly honest, I think we were robbed," Dre told Access Hollywood in an interview aired on NBC.
http://wallofsound.go.com/news/stories/dreandem022301.html
Rap artists were robbed and not the other way around? Interesting...
Name: D.J Mitch
@ WJAZ, JAZZ and Conversation from the foot of
Location: Mt. Belzoni,
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 04:49:50
Comments:
The posts have poured in the last 3 days here days have kept me on a steady high......Great to see the old posters, who made this messageboard .......CUDOS St.Al , This is your excellent work in progress......
Name: Blaise
gives great "radio" head to the deserving few
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 04:22:45
Comments:
stevie - Yes Marc-Andre Hamelin, a french classical
pianist from my hometown, who gave the performance of the night,imho.
Btw, the Bennett joke was a spin-off on a lame one by Jay Leno reproduced here
by cara earlier. I'm aware Tony's still around and going for a third ttrip
'round the meter.
And yes, in chat, I once
semi-privatelyasked StAL if his love for the Dan had faded over the years and
was perfectly satisfied with the answer he gave then. As far as having to blow
him is concerned, I'm glad I don't have to do it since I'm not the one who came
up with the other comments. Not that there would be anything wrong with
that.I'll leave it to the so inclined, know what I mean?
I respect StAl's opinion. So much so, that I'm gonna give Marshall Mathers a
serious spin despite the initial turn off I feel towards such music. . I'll get
back to you on that.
And again, to avoid any misunderstanding, I 'll state that I believe that
Radiohead, Beck and the Foo Fighters are the most interesting relative
newcomers and they will certainly help define good rock music in the years to
come.
But even if it turns out they didn't, I know for a fact that I can look forward
to, not one, but two albums by the Boys and more touring dates in the not-so
distant future.
And for that, I'm really grateful and think you are as well.
Does all that talk of drinking
talk induce a virtual hangover? I think it does for me, nausea and all. Just my
take and of course, people are free to choose the angle they like and run with
it for a few weeks but...
My 2 Canadian cents
Always worth less
Name: Jim
#
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 02:10:07
Comments:
StevieD: Why, you old sheepherder you ;-). It is amazing though, and I've seen the same thing locally; while I don't think anyone minds seeing some boosted sales as a result of the awards, where exactly were all these folks a year ago? While the album has certainly had enough airplay, enough ink, television exposure on a national scale seems to provide a blessing all its' own. All of a sudden the boys and TaN are righteous? My naivete on the powers of the visual medium know no bounds.
St. Al: pretty magical, pal.
Name: steviedan
cultural sheepdog
Date: Saturday, February 24, 19101 at 01:23:25
Comments:
this past couple of days has good for sd product and i feel like the protagonist in the movie "hi fidelity" who goes, "i will now sell three copies of the beta band's "three ep's" album". i've just kept 2vn playing non-stop and here comes one of those wooly bleaters now. "is this that NEW steely dan ?". "well, it's not NEW, it's been out almost a year". i do this with a look of "where've you been, you cultural lemming" mixed with "you and your OBVIOUS good taste". i am seeing double platinum and beyond. a lot of older sheep and quite a few lambs. it's amazing how many of these animals apparently LOVE sd but somehow totally missed this release. Q, you were exactly right, not that it's a baaaaaaad thing, though.
howard, thanx for mentioning vince mendoza, i have been following his career and his albums. he has a rich compositional and arranging style. a well deserved award for a beautiful album.
alta, the pianist was marc-andre hamelin from the land of blaise.
speaking of the blazemaster... my man, tony bennett is omni-present.
org. lester, some of the los lobos posse is involved in los super seven, an all-star tejano-rock supergroup. they have a new one coming out soon, but i think the first one was better. you'll love it, particularly if you are fond of the more traditional stuff.
dj mitch (where HAVE you been anyway ? you were once a staple.), ygk was correct. blue man group. you know, the pentium characters. the moby fiasco was not their best work and it wasn't jill scott's best, either. moby sounds like a skip in a record of a bad rock band.
lady b, since this is a virtual saloon, can it contain elements of those amsterdam establishments ?
let there be no mistake, there is no other saint like al. who has questioned his fan status ?
Name: antonio gorgoni
antonio.gorgoni@freesurf.ch
Location: zuerich, ch switzerland
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 23:19:58
Comments:
ciao a tutti, avete regalato al mondo la musica piu` bella che ci sia, speravo che un giorno il gruppo steely dan si riformasse. È stata la riconferma dell`anno che avete vinto il Grammy, continuate cosi`, i vostri FANS, sono in allegria salutoni dall`ITALIA: gorgoni antonio. see your later! ciao a tutti
Name: angel
yes, I'd love to tour the Southland in a traveling minstrel show
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 22:10:02
Comments:
St. Al: I am so sorry you did not get to experience the
POWER of this Guest Book on Wednesday Night. It was
one post after the other non stop. You can obviously
read them, but I don't think it has quite the impact
that it did then. An awesome experience, for sure.
I don't think any of us will ever forget it.
Wednesday night, you too won in
spades. Take your award
and cherish it. Thanks.
sound just like a record on a phonograph....
Name: The Fans
everywhere
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 21:10:52
Comments:
Re: Your Letter
Dear Walter & Donald,
Thanks for all of your efforts on our behalf. Sounds like we had a really good time.
Love,
Your Fans
Name: StAlphonzo
stalfnzo@seanet.com
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 21:04:49
Comments:
Wow! What an amazing couple of days it’s been. It’s been particularly tough for me because I was out of town on business Wednesday and Thursday. This is the first time I’ve been able to sit my computer and dedicate some time to the events of the past 3 days. As I sat in my hotel room catching the final 20 minutes of the Grammies, you don’t know how hard it was not to be able to participate in the excitement and jubilation everyone’s been experiencing.
It’s been a very long time since I’ve felt compelled to discuss this band and what how profoundly they impact my life. This was illustrated throughout the day today while I was riding around in my car listening to 2AN and Aja for the zillionth time. While listening to 2AN nature I kept thinking to myself “what an amazing piece of music this is.” Almost as if I had to justify to myself this band deserved the awards. Who the fuck am I kidding. 2AN stands up to any album they’ve ever produced. It is the perfectly natural progression of Becker and Fagen’s musical journey and growth. It could have been made 2 years after Gaucho and it would still be relevant and still make sense. Did these guys REALLY take a break for 19 years? What other artist do you know who’s been able to pick up where they left off like that? It’s simply because these two are musical heavyweights with expertise and ability that is second to no one. That’s why they won the Grammy(s). Eminem is still shitting in his diapers, metaphorically speaking. He’s a baby who has a lot of growing to do before he’s ready to stand in the same room as Walter and Donald.
Don’t get me wrong. I like Eminem – a lot. I like some hip-hop. I like Beck. I like Radiohead. Valid arguments can be made for all these artists why they should have won. The fact is the Grammy’s aren’t a mass-popularity contest like the People’s Choice Awards. Thank god. I often take heat for sticking up for other artists (like Eminem) on this website and in chat. Some have actually asked me if I really do like Steely Dan because I don’t often show it. This too is a valid argument because it may seem like I don’t participate in the SD discussion much. A few have even suggested I only do this for the “perks.” Two words for those naysayers -- Blow me.
I just returned home from the store and while I was in the car I was listening to Aja. LOUDLY. Anyway, that fucking amazing Steve Gadd solo comes on and I started getting goosebumps. Same thing again when I hear Chuck Rainey’s bass line on Peg – Goosebumps. I’m thinking what the hell is up with me tonight? Then I realize the power of good music. After a zillion listens this bands music still gives me goosebumps. No other band does that for me (except the Grateful Dead, and for different reasons, usually involving drugs of some sort…).
So congratulations Walter, Donald, Roger, Dave, Elliot and Phil. A well deserved group of awards for sure. And thank you Walter and Donald for making my life a little richer.
StAl
Name: Hank Silvers
hanksilvers@dog.com
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 20:06:37
Comments:
Musing at 11:00 p.m...here's hoping that DF & WB are enjoying themselves as much as the ODP letter indicates, because they've earned the time off.
This thought crossed my mind, and I wonder if it crossed theirs, too...since it will never again get better than this -- it *can't* -- perhaps they should take a few years off, and then retire. What good are laurels if you can't rest on them?
Name: Nancy
Nanylil@hotmail.com
Location: Miami, Fla. USA
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 19:34:45
Comments:
How very kind and considerate of the guys to post a
message about the Grammies. What a surprize that was. Thanks for being the
soundtrack of my youth, keep the music coming to soften the blow of rapidly
approaching middle age. My 7 and 3 y.o. kids know the words to Bad Sneakers and
Katy Lied already.
You were great at Wembly (UK) a few years ago.
What an incredibly sweet moment it was last Weds.
Thank you, thank you and thank you again for the music.
PS and thanks for the Nurse credit on one of the albums. I'll volunteer for the
next one.
Name: Dancegoddess
lilmama@hotmail.com
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 18:40:44
Comments:
They got it! I haven't been this happy since I stopped having periods.
Name: edbeatty
@pe.net
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 18:14:42
Comments:
Holy shit...
What a week
Name: KD
nbatalk.com
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 16:25:42
Comments:
what a nice week.
My personal favorite? Bucket 'o everclear.
Name: |||||
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 16:08:55
Comments:
Thanks for the last call Jen, I don't know my way around a blender...
t - those sound great! Even though the name is, well, I won't comment on the name but maybe I'll try one next week.
Have a great weekend all.
L-U-V,
rumblestrip
Name: S'okay Sanakie...
I'ma ohkay 2 drive...
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 15:49:23
Comments:
Panty Rippers = coconut rum on the rocks with a splash (liberal if yer makin' mine) of pineapple juice. As per the Western on Hwy. 1, the only bar in Point Reyes Station, Ca., so we'll stop there on the way to catching sunset on the beach, and on the way back, if you're game...
tohnz
Name:
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 15:26:39
Comments:
Dan Fan '72, that was priceless. Don and Walt, hope you read that.
Name: Dan Fan, circa 1972
icanbelieveitsnotmnm@fu.com
Location: Dallas, Tx Usa
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 15:14:49
Comments:
Remastered Steely Dan Cd's.......125$
Black Mini, fresh cable and 15 watt bulbs...150$
Flat Hat and axe..........750$
Sweeping 4 Grammys after 30 yrs in the business.....
PRICELESS......
Name: snakehips
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 15:06:49
Comments:
Jen, Tones - ok - what are Panty Rippers? Haven't I heard that this has been discussed in chat - that place I can't get to????
Margies sound good too - salt please.
I need a ride home - hopefully someone more sober than me!
Thanks ladies (Jen and Lady B). It's a lovely place.
G'night everyone.
sh
c'mon daddy get in let's go...
Name: Jen
one more then I'm really outta here!
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 14:38:59
Comments:
Man, that a phrase I've used once or twice before, lol.
Anyway, *winks* to t. Glad I could help 'ya!
||||||, one pitcher of Margie's coming right up. I'll have one with 'ya then i really gotta jet!
Phew! Love the business guys, but you're wearing me out today.
*smooches*
Jenny
Put a dollar in the kitty...
Name: ||||
oh...kay...
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 14:37:01
Comments:
...anyone know the recipe for margaritas? :)
Name: ||||||
@Squonk's
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 14:34:51
Comments:
Big welcome to all the newbies here!
'bye Lady B. Sorry I just missed you - (I noticed you picked up the Seinfeld thread too)
Gina - I know, but was it worth it, all that scrolling? Doctor, my eyes!
tones - thanks hon, nice to see you here
Altamira - congrats on the new job!
Blaise - yes, it's hard to be objective about something one is so wrapped up in. In which one is so wrapped up? But it's fun though, as long as one doesn't overanalyze. Perhaps the lazy eye approach would be less painful to my oculomotor muscles.
Jenny - a pitcher of margaritas, please, to share with all the new guests! Now you'd all better help me out with this or I'll end up on a table singing Only a Fool...
Name: Have a hapnin' weekend
Jenster...
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 14:33:50
Comments:
I'm feelin' refreshed already, and Im only halfway through my second one...
t
Name: Jen
well all right!
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 14:31:07
Comments:
Lovely to see 'ya sweetie! Panty Rippers on the way!
'Fraid this'll have to be last call. I'm heading out for the weekend along with LB. You've all been the best crowd today. So much fun! Let's do it all again next week. What a way to work up to the HOF celebrations! Oh, and since I won't be able to make the journey up to NYC, I'll expect you all to have a drink for your friendly cyber-bartendress down here in Texas. I'll miss you all!
have a great weekend folks!
Jenny
Name: Jen &
Lady Bay...
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 14:27:08
Comments:
3 Panty Rippers over here please...
I'm way thirsty.
t
Name: Lady Bayside
@work, but not for much longer
Location: NYC,
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 14:12:29
Comments:
Jen-u-wine...Baby, you are the bestest. We'll cover each other, keep 'em happy.
I've gotta jet out of here.
Smooches, all. Have a great weekend!
Lady B
Name: Jen
okie dokie, whatda we got here?
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 14:02:50
Comments:
Snakehips? Lady B take care of 'ya? I'm sure she did. What a great partners I have!
Lady B: Luv 'ya girl! You got my back and I love that! You know, as proprietors, our drinks are always on the house, right? Oh, and turn that up!
Altamira: Guinnes it is! And thanks for the props. It's easy when you've got such lovely guests.
YGK: This old thing? *blushing*, thanks sweetie. I'll get that round out to 'ya as quick as I can. Oh, hi Greg, nice to meet 'ya. You as charming as your friend here?
Man I luv you folks! The Dan sweeps the other night and we get to party here at Squonks because of them! Damn life is good somedays!
ORDER UP!
Jenny
Name: snakehips
gettin' smashed here at Squonks
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 13:55:48
Comments:
ooooo - Kahlua and cream - yes some for me too! Wow, on top of that Absolute citron and cranberry juice i'll either get really buzzed or really sick ;-)
Hey Aja - wish I could chat too. One of these days....
sh
she drinks the zombie from the cocoa shell...
Name: Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 12:57:09
Comments:
Aja...one double Kahlua and Cream coming up. Just don't spill this like I did my drink. Wet, cranberry scented pants do not a fashion statement make!
Sorry you're having a bad day....we bartenders are good listeners, you know.
Damn, my buns are cold.
Shut the front door behind you firmly when you come in, folks.
Lady B
Name: Aja
barely getting through the workday
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 12:55:14
Comments:
Lady B-please pour me a Kahlua and cream, and make it a double!
Hi snakehips-sorry I haven't written back-I will soon. Wish you could chat.
Dime dancing 'til 5:00,
Aja
Name: Kira Snow
lexasmommy@liespeopletell.com
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 12:53:57
Comments:
Great site. Check out www.liespeopletell.com
Name: Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 12:46:48
Comments:
Snakehips; may I suggest a vodka and cranberry...absolute citron, preferably. It's quite tasty.
Expanding Man: straight or on the rocks?
Okay, folks....keep the orders coming.
LB
Name: ygk
..
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 12:40:23
Comments:
DJ Mitch: I didn't have the pleasure of catching the broadcast....but my best guess is that they were the Blue Man Group....a completely hilarious send up on art, which is featured on the Off-Broadway circuit round the country....
if you get a chance to see them, its a definite must see...
ygk
Name: DJ. Mitch
WJAZ
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 12:36:18
Comments:
One more thing, Who were those those nitwits with blue paint on their bodies??????AVENTGARDE Broadway production......fake instruments........that shot out whatever.......how fuckin silly !
Name: D.J Mitch
@ WJAZ
Location: Mt. Belzoni,
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 12:25:55
Comments:
Grammy quip of the night goes to Donald " We would like to thank Emenem for taking all the heat " .....in obvious reference to his controversial lyrics. 2VN as everyone here knows contained themes such as incest, threesomes and statutory rape. I too would like to thank him........I`m sure 2VN would have come under fire........Walter`s Quip was good too, when asked if The Awards represented Steely Dan`s "Body of Works", His reply was that it was a testimony that their bodies were still working....I have been around lots of people who were quick , and Donald and Walter can hang with the best.....Libby Titus definitely enjoyed herself........
Name: Expanding Man
munccoor@fox.nstn.ca
Location: Halifax, NS Canada
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 12:20:46
Comments:
Lady B., Altamira, Snakehips (hmmm), Jen, thanks for making me feel so welcome. Coming up on quitting time here (I'm popping in between crises on the job; makes a wonderful decompressor) so I can certainly manage a quick drink on a Friday afternoon. Got any Longmorn 15-yr back there? Actually since we're having another in a never-ending series of winter storms here today/tonight I expect that I'll be at home tonight with a couple of libations before turning in early. Then I can get up tomorrow morning and shovel out again.
You folks in NYC, watch out for those gray men as they dive... but hopefully it's not that bad yet! Take care and see you soon.
Greg
Name: ygk
..
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 12:16:46
Comments:
In chat 3:15
Name: ygk
..
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 12:15:19
Comments:
.....ok, ok, I'm ready....Jen....could you get me a
round, darlin? btw....love the dress....
meet my buddy, Greg....and he brought his Dunhills....smokes all around....Aus,
Man, take a break, I'm buyin....
ygk
Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: WDC,
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 12:15:05
Comments:
Jen--I'd like a Guinness to celebrate my last day of unemployment. Thank you for being such a delightful and generous host.
Miz Ducky--Thank you; I'm really looking forward to meeting you too. I've been looking over the personnel manual for the new job, and I won't be eligible for leave for quite some time, but I'll take an early-morning train to New York on Saturday (and a late-night train back on Sunday) so I can enjoy as much of the weekend's festivities as possible.
Name: snakehips
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 12:06:13
Comments:
Lady B - thanks for the suggestion, but i don't do gin. Maybe vodka and something. In the old days, i could do shots of Ouzo with a Coke chase. Whew. That sounds nasty now!
Name: Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 12:01:37
Comments:
Hey, Jen--thanks for pouring. I'm going to finish putting the glassware away.
You know, while you are at it, make mine a double Jack, neat. And I need a seltzer with lime as a chaser. And set up another one--it's been that kind of a day, and it don't seem to be getting better. Anyone mind if I spin a little Royal Scam? I need some Kid C right now.
What's funny is that a friend of mine just brought me two little bottles of absolute--one citron--which are just the right size for keeping in my desk, in case I can't wait for traditional cocktail hour.
*sigh* Aus, you aren't kidding. Things are bleak. No pun intended. I'm hoping there's a rally next week.
YGK: why sir, you flatter me. Thanks. Next one's on me, since I'm sure Jen got you. Shall I make that a seltzer? *grin*
Miz D: So glad I have Jen to back me up--and vice versa--'scuze me for being a bit delinquent. But then, it's good to be a little delinquent every once in awhile, no?
Snakehips: How about a nice Gin-n-tonic?
I hope y'all don't mind if I sing along with the Boys--
Is there gas in the car?
Lady B
Name: Aja
switching screens
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:56:13
Comments:
YGK-sorry, I think I missed you by 5 minutes! I'm switching screens between REAL work and chat.
Anybody else up for a quick lunchtime chat?
Aja
Name: snakehips
on the side of the road
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:54:08
Comments:
Hey Jen - just had some Piesporter (sp?) at lunch. But, I think I need to switch to something a little harder for the after work party at Squonks. I'm pretty much a wimp when it comes to drinking, but what can you suggest? And since I've been picked up by the side of the road, I don't have to worry about drinking and driving. I'll hitch a ride home with someone...
sh
strap in tight cause its a long sweet ride...
Name: DrMu
will.the.wolf.survive
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:42:04
Comments:
OL: Listened to them a lot in the late 80s but not lately. Have their WTWS, the follow-up (blanked out on the name), and La Bamba. The best part of the cover (and it's one of the best covers of all time) is the little acoustic outtro - fabulous. I heard their BEST album is Kiko, but never got around to picking it up. Great native language albums too.
I like Odelay quite a bit, but haven't heard much of the Vultures CD.
Hey St. Al, didn't the Foo Fighters win a couple of Grammys? They have a good sound. Did they do a Mentos video spoof years ago????
Seems like the Dan will easily take this all in stride. I wonder how things
might have turned out if Pretzel Logic, Katy Lied, or even Can't Buy a Thrill
had won a Grammy? These things can really affect someone in their 20s. Ya might
end up like Bono or something...
Name: Jen
yes, it's me again...
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:41:52
Comments:
Snakie? You ready for that drink yet? We've got a good little crowd working here!
Oh, and also, my thanks to W&D too for the letter. I have to say, reading
it sorta put a lump in my throat. The fact that they put a halt to the
partying, even for just the minute it took to compose the thing, and put it up
so quickly for us all to read really says a lot! They truly do luv their fans.
It's no wonder we all have so much luv we want to give back! Here's to you
Boys!
Jenny
Name: Jen
come on in!
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:37:16
Comments:
MizD: not sure where the Lady is, but I've got you covered on that drink! *slides glass down bar* I love that move!
Jenny
Name: Jen
floating somewhere in cyberspace.com
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:34:03
Comments:
Hmm, just tried to post a little while ago, but it seems to have disappeared, so...
tones: You're such a sweetie. Thanks for the *warm smile*, maybe once we get to know each other a bit better, I'll qualify for one of those hugs. ;-) I have really always enjoyed ready your posts. I mean that.
aka Expanding Man: Welcome! I have had much the same experience with the Dan over my life. Never really left them, but it's had it's peaks and valleys. I think now though, since I'm old enough to get those little ironies and adult-themed lyrics of theirs, I'm at a permanent peak. I can't see ever letting their music fall to the wayside again. And go ahead and belly up, seems we've got a few out there already getting thirsty this afternoon. *tying on apron*
Aus, YGK: comin' right up boys!
So? Who else? I'm not really much for drinking on the job, but I think I'll be pouring myself a Grand Marnier. With another toast to the Boys! Everyone raise your glasses!
Jenny
Name: snakehips
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:29:38
Comments:
Chips - are you still chatting? e-me please
Name: Miz Ducky
reasons to partay in NYC (or LA, or wherevah)
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:28:08
Comments:
Altamira: hope you do make the NYC Danfest--yet another kewl person for me to meet In Real Life.
My dear Lady B: love this Squonk joint you got going here. I'll have a Knob Creek double Manhattan pleeeeeez. Time to get bakin.'
Hey, Don and Walt themselves said that Beck was one of the few current pop artists they like (when that French web-television channel interviewed them right before last year's Paris show). Yeah, Beck is not the Dan, but he's definitely got something going on.
Love that love-letter on the front door of the ODP. Party hearty, Guys, you do do us proud.
/the Mam'zelle
ready for this to be the weekend already
Name: Aussie
Dan on Sopranos
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:23:54
Comments:
A friend who is connected to the show told me a couple of months ago but asked me not to say anything.
Today however, Ken Tucker put out a review of the season opener and called the Dirty Work scene the pemiere's highlight!!!
Mark in Boston
Name: snakehips
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:18:26
Comments:
Donald and Walter - great letter! how nice that you thought to write to us that way. and, again, thank you for all the incredible music over all these years. remember - we're still listening.
hey there expanding man - welcome greg. lookout, you could be in for a bumpy ride
sh
Name: Aussie
@work
Location: NYC, NY USA
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:12:19
Comments:
Boston Rag: I wonder if the boys get royalty payments from such high profile exposure on the Sopranos. Neat factoid BTW...curious to know your source...
Chere: Must be at the gates of delirium, what with engagement and Dan sweep...must try for trifecta and hop the bus to NYC.
Negative Girl: Can you e-blast me at work please? aussie.torres@painewebber.com
LadyB and Jen: Traders on the
floor today shrugging shoulders and asking: "What did you
expect"...scary thing is among today's decimation there is no discernible
panic anywhere and the temptation to leave your wallet on your hip is almost
irresistable...nervous and more than dissapointed... SOooo-
Make mine a double Johnnie Black on the rocks on the hop please.
Thank you.
Everybody have a great weekend.
Name: ygk
..
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:11:30
Comments:
Lady B: My, My you look so lovely....can I have a Macallan 18? neat....water back, no ice...?
it's friday, and it's loose here at bear.....
And jeez, Congratulations, Donald and Walter!!!!! Way, way overdue....but it 's great to know that your masterpiece 2vN is so critically acclaimed, as well as just being great music.....we need more....
When is the next one?
Yours in Eternal Fandom,
ygk
Name: Original Lester
steelyman11@yahoo.com
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:10:55
Comments:
Lisa- agreed on the Stevie thing. I told my girlfriend the presentation was a meeting of gods.
Though my Dan batteries are recharged, I'm wondering if anyone around here likes Los Lobos at at all. I'm always trying to find who else is out there trying to break new ground (in SD tradition)in the midst of the deplorable state of the music industry. The Lobos are the real deal, and their 90's material shows a particular penchant for seeking new sounds and frontiers. Two Lobos members had a side project, The Latin Playboys, in which they took adventurousness even further. Unfortunately, most folks out there only remember them for La Bamba, which is hardly an indication of this band's worth. Highly recommended to anyone seeking solace from the mainstream, which I'm certain makes most of us.
Two other great CD investments I've made over the past year were the Buena Vista Social Club, and John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman. Imagine if D+W had their services available to them. Of course, they might have just recorded a few bars and trashed them.
Stay true to music, amigos. Wednesday night showed that keeping the faith sometimes gives us a national forum to flip a bird in the face of the homogenized claptrap bubblegum which dominates the music and media industries.
OL
Name: Q
dlqchris@ihc.com
Location: Delta, UT
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:08:50
Comments:
I'm sorta new here, well....not a regular anyway. I'm just compelled to write this time.
I remember my 16th birthday in 1980 when I unpeeled the shrinkwrap from my very first ever Steely Dan LP, Aja that my sister Carrie gave to me. It was history at that point, I new I had a long-lasting love affair with two men whom I may never meet in the rest of my life. It has indeed been just that. You know how you find a group that you really think that you like a lot and will like forever, but soon the interest fades away? Not so. I can honestly say that my passion grows stronger with each SD song, no matter how many times I may listen to it.
Well, at the risk of sounding too mushy (too late), I wish to congratulate my favorite group of all time on the crowning acheivement of an excellent career. I'm driving everyone at work crazy, wearing my Tour 2K polo shirt and constantly reminding them who won the Grammy's. I think they regret puting me in charge of the overhead music.
Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:08:23
Comments:
I may be able to attend the New York Danfest after all, because I now have a new job so I'll have some money by then. I don't think I'll have any leave time yet so I'll probably head up on Saturday morning. I'm greatly looking forward to meeting many of you.
Greg B.-Expanding Man--Welcome! Where do you live in Nova Scotia? I spent a few days in Halifax a while back and absolutely loved it--sophisticated, funky, lively, and beautiful. I'm also interested in history, so I have several books about the Halifax Explosion (something few Americans can say; we tend to not know much about Canadian history, as I'm sure you are well aware of). The rest of Nova Scotia is quite lovely as well.
There are many cat lovers here, some of whom even have pictures of their cats on their web sites. I have six of the furry darlings, but I don't have a web site yet. I hope you stay around, and I'm looking forward to reading more of your posts.
Name: more tones
to go...
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 11:08:12
Comments:
Ole - ok. A low-5 and a wiggle for you. Us low slung types have to stick together.
Belated hugs and stuff to LP & |||||...
All Dan, all day here at the daily grind...
t
Name: Too late
Chipster...
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 10:51:42
Comments:
Beck won Grams for Odelay *and* Mutations...
t
Name: Boston Rag
SD on Sopranos Premiere
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 10:46:55
Comments:
If I wasn't a huge Dan fan, I'd be saying to myself by
now "Holy
shit, I can't get away from this band. They're everywhere!"
I just found out that on the
season premiere of The Sopranos (my
favorite TV show) Tony is shown singing along with "Dirty Work" while
driving in his car.
Jeez, 40 million people just
witnessed Don and Walt pick up their Grammys.
Now the most anticipated TV premiere of the year has Tony digging the Dan!
See you at the party in NYC!
Mark in Boston
Name: Chips
is
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 10:17:50
Comments:
chatting
1:20 PM EST
Name: Chips
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 09:54:03
Comments:
Congrats to Beck for not selling out.....
Name: Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 09:46:45
Comments:
Greetings, Greg/Expanding Man!
LP (aka Luckless Pedestrian) will surely be along in a while to administer your official GB newbie quiz. Don't worry, it will hardly hurt at all.
As co-owner and bartender of Squonks, the newly opened SD GB bar, I'd like to pour your first one on the house. Well, you know what I mean.
I like your description of yourself--I think many of us here lead double lives. In actuality, I am a 75 year old former auto worker from Cheboygan who daydreams about a second career as a hand model. *aha! the truth comes out!*
Anyway, welcome. What are you drinking? You might need a good one to come up with the answers to lp's now-famous newbie rite of passage.
Lady B
Name: Greg B. (aka Expanding Man)
munccoor@fox.nstn.ca
Location: Halifax, NS Canada
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 09:33:36
Comments:
Greetings all, from a newcomer.
Hope no regular poster uses the expanding man nickname. I feel that way sometimes over the last few years when I try to get into last year's clothes.
I'm new to this place but not to SD. Had most of their albums while in college in the 70s, knew I liked them then but wasn't sure why. Rediscovered them for a while in the mid-80s with some of the compilations and then it all came back to me last year when I saw the PBS special. I think by now my tastes have gotten to the point where I can finally understand a little bit of what they were trying to do musically and lyrically. I'm 44, live here in Nova Scotia (and pray to the heavens every night that one of these days the band will make it here), like old cars, single-malt scotch, red wine, and cats along with SD (the cats are less musical but otherwise are independent personalities just like D & W so maybe that's why I like them). In my dreams I am very handsome and charming, particularly when I'm entertaining Vicoria Cave or Carolyn Leonhardt over witty conversation in some quiet bistro. :) In reality I work for the government here.
So happy about the awards I'm beside myself. Especially under the circumstances of having the totally opposite extreme to SD being the center of all the hype and attention. I'm concerned when I think about the future of music (and maybe society overall) if that's where it's heading. Enough soapbox.
Anyway, the reason I'm posting is that I saw the pics of the envelope on steelydan.com yesterday but didn't save them. They've been replaced by that great letter there today and seem to have disappeared from Giant records too. Would someone who had the foresight to download them mind mailing them to me? The address is munccoor@fox.nstn.ca
Thanks, and all the best. I like the atmosphere here, I might hang around for a while. :)
Greg
Name: B&B
.
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 09:21:29
Comments:
Butthead: "Even we knew he was gay."
Beevis: "How could you not that? Look at the clothes he wore."
Butthead: "Yeah. Feather boas and sequins are sort of a giveaway."
Beevis: "Yeah! What a wuss! You'd never see the guys from Motley Crue dressed like that."
Butthead: "Uh, yeah you would, Beevis."
Beevis: "Oh, yeah. Right. But they weren't gay. They had lotsa chicks. When Motley Cue wore women's clothes, it was 'cause the chicks they just did took the wrong clothes with them, so they guys had nothing else to wear when they went on stage."
Butthead: "Uhh, you feeling okay, Beevis?"
Beevis: "Yeah! Rap sucks!"
Name:
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 09:17:27
Comments:
..... maybe i overlooked .....
have Fmaj9# and RubyBaby checked in here yet???
Innocent One .....
Chips???????
Name: Debra
let the handcuffs slip off your wrist
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 09:16:59
Comments:
Blais-ahhhhh:
I whole-heartedly agree with you. There is no comparison between the music of Beck and that of our heroes, Walt and Don.
HOWEVER, I can sit ida-lee by while Beck goes on behind me somewhere. His music does not command my attention- and there are instances when I want the music I'm hearing to be mindless.
With Steely Dan, I am held to the spot; unable to draw myself away from it. Some art CANNOT be relegated to the background. This isn't always a good thing, especially if one is trying to concentrate. The first time I played 2vN (which was approx. 3 seconds after leaving the Musicquarium), I nearly wrecked my car. Seriously.
Now regarding those sexx laws...
Name: Beevis
& Butthead
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 09:14:10
Comments:
Butthead: "Uh, huh, huh, you ahh, you wanna know how stupid that candy-ass M&M is? Uh, huh, huh. He says he didn't even know Elton John was gay until he was asked to perform with him on stage."
Beevis: "Heh heh. You said, 'perform'."
Butthead: "Shut-up, numbnuts, or you'll end up like that chick in 'Stan'."
Beevis: "There was a chick inside Stan? How did that work?"
(smack)
Name: Blaise de la Mancha
unwilling to approach this windmill in full lab regalia
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 08:45:45
Comments:
Today, Mu, it seems that if you simply sampled the
opening bars of Almost Gothic, loop it and ran the Nixon tapes uncut over it,
you might have yourself aa hit single and even possibly a shot at a handful of
grammies. Sad state of affairs indeed.
Yes Debra, I too, like you, want to defy the logic of our sex laws but... it
didn't do it for me , not as much as 2AN, Almost Gothic, Negative Girl or West
of Hollywood anyway. I like Beck and Radiohead but I'm not present on their
webring. I don't think they have achieved the depth of SD yet but they do show
promise. Maybe we'll meet on Beck's future chat page in full audio-video but
I'm comfy here for now thanks.Stec
Steven - "It's important to know the difference between a chateaubriand and a Big Mac. My 7-year-old would rather have the latter. That's cool. When he grows up, I suspect he'll prefer the latter." Now I know you meant to write "the former" but the mistake is telling. It reveals the prblem since he might lose sight of what a chateaubriand is in the first place and think a Big Mac is fine old-time cuisine when compared d to those to his daily cocktail of pills. Of course that's just speculation on my part but I remain convinced that a sense of History is lost in in the swing and that can't be good for any of us.
|||| - Yes. You spotted the Seinfeld ref, you, btw, tres sharp... It's true that I do tend - by force of habit, being a trained dog in such matters - to keep a lazy eye on social aspects of this page and I'm convinced there's enough raw material here to justify a thesis on online relationships considering most of it is archived and readily available for analysis. That doesn't mean a researcher who would approach this community in a serious manner would be able to keep his/her sanity in the process, especially if he/she gets involved in the proceedings. It's not always crystal clear, as you probably know. And there's a whole behind-the-scenes process to reconstruct in order to get to an acceptable understanding of it, imho. Not sure if a participant methodogy is called for or a position of deliberate exteriority. They both have their strenghts and weaknesses. I like my lazy eye for now. It has a mind of its own when scanning. I just let it roll and have fun.
Name: cara mia
liking Dolly too@West of DollyWood
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 08:44:20
Comments:
Gina, that was beautiful.
The fact that it was a 4 Grammy sweep is just so sweet!
Glad to see all the postings of those who will be in NYC for the parties. I really hope we have the means to be visible to each other and put faces to handles/names. I don't think any of us imagined (except for our super-optimistic poster who predicted the sweep) that this event would be enhanced like this with even more to celebrate now. This is going to be the highlight of my winter/spring. And then on to New Orleans...
cara mia in Tennessee
Name: DrPepper
peppershaker@hotmail.com
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 08:43:18
Comments:
Walter Becker and Donald Fagen ---- Congratulations from the 'hood that gave you that Black Cow lyric. The title too, actually.
Stranger ---- I saw SteelyDanFan in Orange County a few months ago. They were good. Some of the solos were VERY good. And in most places true and close to the original. Just 4 or 5 players as I recall so not really able to achieve the nuance or fidelity of say The Steely Damned. Definitely worth seeing again.
Name: Steven
syates59@hotmail.com
Location: Hartford, CT USA
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 07:26:53
Comments:
Like the rest of Dan-dom, I am basking in the glow. Ah.
Points to ponder.
1. True, the Grammies have honored a lot of non-cutting edge music over the years. And the honors have sometime been "look back" honors. Take this for what it is. Would any of us love the Dan any more or any less, had they not won these awards. Of course not. The voters chose to honors Walter and Donald and 2vN over the other nominees. Period.
2. While I am 41 years old, my ears appreciate the same qualities they always have. I'm partial to guitar and horn riffs, well-crafted hooks and a witty turn of phrase. I admit I don't view "rap" as music since it lacks melody. I also admit to tapping my toes to Will Smith and a few other rappers' work. So, I don't view myself as pre-disposed to being against rap. But I see such a parade of "artists" flashing by that I can't imagine any of their "art" passing the test of time. I understand young people vehemently defending the "music" they like, especially as compared to the music that came before. I am reminded of the disco years and the parade of disco "artists". Where are they now? Who listens to their "music"? It's important to know the difference between a chateaubriand and a Big Mac. My 7-year-old would rather have the latter. That's cool. When he grows up, I suspect he'll prefer the latter.
Each generation has its popular pop icons, some turn out to be great artists whose work stands the test of time. Others end up relegated to the big cut-out bin in the sky. M&M? Well, let's just say, he ought to save his money. The ride my be a short one.
3. I was so heartened to hear Donald say that he and Walter have a lot more music in them still to write. I'd love to see more frequent releases and tours from our heroes. I hope that it's not like his tease of "we'll see you next year".
4. The Hall of Fame, Grammies, let's hope the accolades motivate D & W to favor us with more cool tunes. In the meantime, I think the recognition just means to me that the community of Dan-fans is larger than I thought before.
Stay cool and keep listening.
Name: DrMu
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 07:18:14
Comments:
Think about it. Take the Nixon tapes. Add the expletives back in. Remove most of the multisyllabic words. Add a backbeat, a little rhymin', Simon...and voilá: M&M
Clas: I don't know. They still love Garth Brooks here. Don't worry, the media radar is short-lived anyway - it's the fashion that counts ;)
Name: Debra
sleeping thru the poignant rain
Location: runnin' buckwild like a concubine, whose mother never held her
hand
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 07:04:47
Comments:
Hang on there, Blaise. Beck's "Midnite Vultures" was not a weak effort. Have you given it a listen? There are some gems on there including Sexx Laws, Nicotine & Gravy, Hollywood Freaks and of course, my favorite, Debra.
I'm not saying by any means that i think it deserved to beat 2vN, because I am not a moron. But in all fairness, Beck's cd was pretty good too.
Was it my imagination or did Paul Simon look OLD at the Grammys?
Name: Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 06:44:03
Comments:
G'morning, all. I'm still riding the crest of the Grammy wave..and feeling, as a friend and I were talking about yesterday, very vindicated in my musical taste and attempts to bring my friends/acquaintances/neighbors/strangers on the subway around to the glory of Steely Dan.
Darn it, I *told* them Steely Dan was amazing, and incomparable. Maybe now these would-be converts will wake up.
Either way...I know why I love the Dan, why I have loved listening to them, escaping through their music, since I listened to Rikki and Dirty Work on my AM transistor radio in my backyard when I was in elementary school.
So...as Jen said yesterday, Squonks is officially open, and we are still serving on the house in honor of this real occasion.
And jen...love that name. It works for me.
Oh..my reason for posting this was originally to comment on the letter on the SD home page...our Boys have class. Long may you reign.
I'm getting a bit verklempt. Talk amongst yourselves.
Lady B
Name: snakehips
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 06:41:53
Comments:
tones - thanks for the hug babe, i can always use those!
jen - i'll see you at Squonks later today. a few drinks with friends will hit the spot.
wormy - mmmmmmmmmm
sh
why not chase it where it goes...
Name: |||||
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 06:27:07
Comments:
~ I heard that too - nice
Blaise - you mean ethnography is your domain? would love to hear more in-depth analysis of GB patterns
Name: Gina
Adding another 2 cts
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 06:26:34
Comments:
Two Against Nature as an intro to those who have never heard of Steely Dan is quite representative to start of with and then take a backward leap in time ... to go for those remastered liner noted CD's ... not bad, not bad at all!
||||, great job counting posts on GB!! i was shocked to find more than 100 at once in chat in Eminem Lobby and couldn't believe the screen scrolling itself that fast it nearly caused Eminem Swoon!
Have a great aftergrammy day, fellow Strangers!
"who's gonna break the shape
of things unknown
two against nature don't you know
who's gonna drop the boom on things to go"
Banyan Tree The Turkey's Lukewarm
Bow,
Gdot
Name: wormtongue
wjaz
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 05:38:21
Comments:
on the ride in this morning
dan friendly NPR used Ruby Baby and Deacon Blues as musical segues between news
announcements
pleasant jingles
Name: Gina
Final Grammusings
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 05:06:06
Comments:
New York Times on the Web Forums Arts Music
ginavodegel - 07:50am Feb 23, 2001 EST (#6521 of 6522)
Well, I am a Steely Dan fan and
love their music ever since I discovered them at age 13. Ofcourse it's not the
sole music my eardrums took in with a gracious beat over time .. Born in 1963
all kinds of music, from past to future kind of found a way, either to last a
decade or phase of life or to stay put as being part of my very soul!
Whatever the industry, musical politics and commercial waves the world we live
in nowadays embraces .. the quality of music will be acknowledged by the ones
who appreciate, if so in buying the records, albums, cd's etc.
Just enter Eminem Chat for a while and you'll find it's the media ánd industry
giving him more credit than some of his own audience is even capable of. It's
not like the generation buying his stuff will cherish it for years to come and
take it to make a positive contribution, if even so in their own lives to begin
with!
Anyway, there's lots of musicians out there not receiving credits for their
work, as in getting nominated and stepping into the spotlight of events such as
the Grammy Awards. Music is not always about mass experience or hysteria,
dressed up trendy in the understanding of time that will pass eventually. Most
of what surfaces will wash ashore on beaches unknown, in salty waters, bitter
sweet if you may care. A hundred years from now, the insignificance of most and
the awareness of this fact will as well have returned to its source.
Music is about enjoying this form of art, entertainment, forces of creativity
and yes .. at times the voice of a generation, an era. It's like the universe
out there, mankind will never never get to explore it to its unknown lengths
and depths even if we wanted to, even if we fantasize and dream about it.
About Steely Dan ..
To the fans, founders of and others involved in Steely Dan this year's Grammy Awards might be like zipping up a black hole in a musical universe. Humor, wit, intelligence, creativity, crafty know-how and uncommon sense are not to be considered alien features after all! Given the upcoming induction of Steely Dan in the Hall Of Fame, these awards are an appetizer bubbling vibrant, optimistic, grinful ingredients: Two Against Nature indeed. Human nature, that for the last years (and perhaps especially in the american society) has degenerated into something that simply called for the victory of something decadious and unexpected by many.
May it alter and contribute positively!
Regards, Gina V. The Netherlands, Europe
Name: Blaise
Tony Bennett, is he still around?
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 04:50:47
Comments:
I think this Grammy win is sweet. It proves that work
performed with integrity and skill will prevail over market conformity. It
might give the impetus for new players to be serious about their work and avoid
mimicking the current crop of chart toppers. The industry knows it has to set a
new standard of taste here while still supporting all genres. with hindsight,
you can always appreciate the sharpness of the "electorate" (as a
composite figure of the will of the people) sometimes. In this case, it doesn't
fully embrace the idea that Eminem is that relevant and considered that
relatively weak efforts by the likes of Beck, Radiohead and Paul Simon were
just not as deserving. Most of us are shocked but it's merely because we got
used to mediocrity prevailing and have somewhat come to expect it.
Steely Dan is a great concept menat to show that working towards a high level
of musicianship and striving to remain adventurous in the art of storytelling,
in a word, engaging still pays off.
But I'm probably making too much of this and next year The Spice Girls will
sweep. Whatever happens, it's awful nice to know we got our share of Dan to
look forward to.
|||| - Is that GB ethnography? That's mymove...
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 03:01:43
Comments:
Well, this means that Steely Dan are housetrained nowdays.
My Steely Dan are gone.
C
Name: MikeA
%$#@&^%
Location: Federal Way, WA
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 01:38:42
Comments:
The fix is in! It's pay back time and M&M was in the
wrong place at the right time. Backlash? To the untrained ears of the
world....go fuck yourselves,it's finally our time to knock back a cold one.
Don & Walt, A big tip of the flat hat to you!!!!
-Mike
Name: W1P
wch1ispink@aol.com
Location: LA, CA
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 00:38:25
Comments:
To the Stranger 2 cents
I will be going to the Steely Fan Band show on 3/3 at Paladino's in Reseda where they will be opening for Led Zepagain and Which One's Pink? I can't go to the Anaheim show because my wife only gives me one weekend night per weekend. She is giving me two, however, on 3/23 and 3/24 where we will hit the Steely Damned in NY on Friday followed by Which One's Pink? in Las Vegas on Saturday. I'm WAY too old for this
Name: Kristie Yunker
borntorun45@hotmail.com
Location: Ester, AK USA
Date: Friday, February 23, 19101 at 00:38:04
Comments:
Way to go, Steeley Dan! What a relief that the foul
mouthed idiot whose name I won't bother to invoke went home with rap prizes
only. I applaud the Grammy voters for having the guts to stand up against the
anti-music that a-hole produces and give the prize to those who deserve it. I
printed the lyrics of MM and those of "Two Against Nature" to show my
17 year old what good writing is all about. How is this for comparison -
"Teddy's rolling now most every night
Skatin' backwards at the speed of light
He's changed - in a thousand little ways
He's changed - yes indeed
You know he's movin' on metal, yes he's
Hanging tight with the Jack of Speed" (Steeley Dan -
"Jack of Speed")
"Come on children, clap
along (Shut up!)
Sing along children (Suck my motherfuckin' dick!)
Drugs are just bad, drugs are just bad (South Park is
gonna sue me!)
So don't do drugs (Suck my mother fuckin' penis!)
So there'll be more for me (hippee! God damn it!)
Mushrooms killed Kenny! (fart)
So fucked up right now..." (eminem - "The Kids")
Sorry kids under 30, but I just don't get it. Rap is crap. Long live jazz, and
long live rock and roll!
Name: Tom Urich
tomurich@t-online.de
Location: Wiesbaden, HE Deutschland
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 23:51:51
Comments:
Das war super! Vier Grammy Leistungen mit eine CD.
Die grenzen meine sprache bedeuten die grenzen meine welt.
Grüß
Tom Urich
Wiesbaden
Deutschland
Name: Babylon Mr.
timmalieckal@hotmail.com
Location: NYC, NY USA
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 22:33:59
Comments:
Hello all friends-
Simply incredible. After ignoring the Grammies for countless years, The Dan get their Due. Phenomenal. Nobody has worked so hard to get their belated recognition.
Not like they give an ish about that anyway.
I feel so great today, hope y'all do too . . .
see you at the Steely Damned show in NYC!!!!!!!!!!!!
Name: oleander
sweet vindication
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 20:58:42
Comments:
... not that anything needed to be vindicated.
Herm--so glad to see you again. Venture out of the cave more often, ok?
All you seldom seen folks--great to see you too--jon, Zeke, Joe, moray eel, Steely Pete, Slimmy (not Shady), kamfire, the Oz-guys, so many more. Major! Shout out, bro!
tones--hugs back, but gimme a hi-five too, but forget the leap--I'm slung down low to the ground.
Still euphoric. Breaking out in non sequitur grins all day long; kept waiting for the men in the trucks to show up and carry me to Dr. K's.
RS--As usual, you summed it up! Monitor squeegee time!
fezo--didja get enough Shelby Lynne?
StevieD--Bela Fleck walked away with a couple, too.
bsavvvta--or maybe old age & skill have trumped youth & treachery.
wormy--a-HOO-ah! Those whispers....
||||--there's a pic of the squonk and another ref to it on fever dreams. As it happens, when looking for something else on my completely unorganized bookshelves, I ran across Borges' "Book of Imaginary Beings," which I thought I'd lost--and there it was, the squonk.
Oh my. A look inside that Grammy envelope. Shee-IT!
Name: cara mia Marsha
thanks Walter
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 20:48:07
Comments:
I feel a connectedness with Walter and surely appreciate that he and Donald are reaching out with direct (in an Internet sort of affection) to the fans. The letter on the homepage is a very nice gesture.
Thanks, guys, and here's to another "weekend of bliss" and with hopes of many more for you.
And thank you for all the vicarious thrills this year.
xoxo,
cm
Name: cara mia
Leno's first joke is about SD
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 20:39:48
Comments:
Tonight Jay Leno on the Tonight Show's first joke was something like: "How about that Steely Dan? Album of the Year...yeah, and the year was 1979! Even Tony Bennett said, 'Are those old guys still around?' ". (weak laughter...)
Cute.
luv and still glowing for the
guys,
cara mia
Name: angel
More hats and hooters!
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 20:39:09
Comments:
Check of Steelydan.com
Great Letter to all of us. Party hardy guys...
Name: angel
It's Parker's Band, with a smooth style of syncopation
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 20:32:41
Comments:
Well, those hats and hooters have had quite a workout
today. Thanks again guys, hope you are fully enjoying
the irony of this whole thing. :-)
Herm: Great to see you posting.
Hope you come back
and visit a bit. I am sort of new here, but I was lurking
back in your posting days. Hope your life is doing better.
Dr. Mu: Thanks for the On The Dunes answer.
Jen: 11 Tracks, my feeling exactly. Great ear candy.
Thanks all for the links, photos etc....
You got to come on man and take a piece of Mister Parker's band...
Name: Senor Wences
pull my finger
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 20:10:01
Comments:
Two Against Nature is No. 1 at Amazon.com
Name: DrMu
Naughty Damsel
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 19:58:08
Comments:
Great line by Fagen:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/22/arts/22GRAM.html
Name: ungrateful bastard
steelmajor@aol.com
Location: sweet home chicago,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 19:39:03
Comments:
it has been a long time since i posted here. but, what the hell, here goes again......3 grammies. not too shabby. as good as 2vN is, i do believe it is not quite up there with aja, royal scam, and perhaps even pretzel logic. is it just me, or, does anyone else believe that, in general, the quality of music being produced by other "professionals" doesn't even come close to the heyday of the seventies? long overdue, like fine wine, our boys show their talents far outshines today's crop of "musicians".
long live the dan!
Name: DrMu
Knotty Dumpling
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 19:38:10
Comments:
...and from the right lean: fair and balanced! Clear and concise: content first, flair second
http://www.foxnews.com/foxlife/022201/grammy.sml
pic 1: Isn't that Adam Sandler? I've never seen them both in the same room...
pic 2: Where's a breeze when you need it?
Name: "Who the hell gives Grammys
to actual songwriters and musicians?"
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 19:33:21
Comments:
This was my email reply to 365:
"Eminem, Beck, and Radiohead
all made good albums this year. Steely Dan puts out their
first album in 20 years and it's easily as good, if not better than either of
the
aforementioned. The difference is Steely Dan know how to right REAL songs, and
choose
musicians who know how to play their instruments. They're not learning on the
job or
enhancing weak compositions with studio gimmickry. And unlike Paul Simon they
continued to
progress their music and sound, again after a 20 year hiatus. That's why they
deserved the
Grammy.
As for their actual selection as
winners, even the Grammys get lucky and do the right thing
occasionally..."
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Saw a little weasel on MTV's TRL go: "Steely Dan? What was that?"
He's probably never heard a real song or real musicians either... His special guest was Monica...
And Bryant "King of Self Importance" Gumbal has an open invitation to "bite me" too.
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|||||| - thanks for the clarification, guess I was caught up in "Grammy Fever"...
LP - thanks for thinking of me, 'cause I know you got more and much better things to do and think about... tonez@pacbell.net. Thanks somemore...
Hugs to Aja, LG, Chere, Snakie, Cara, Gina, the lovely and talented Danslut(tm), the Miz, Ole, and a warm smile to Jen, Lady Bay, Robin, and all.
Big leaping high 5's to my scurvy brothers...
"Two against nature they got
that stuff
Good things happening when you see about us..."
tones
Name: z
x
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 19:31:34
Comments:
I'm very disturbed that all of you are so taken by this
apparent reflex (or perhaps reflux?) action of the guilty consciences of a
bunch of LA music biz types and are completely ignoring the visionary statements
of my personal physician, Doctor Warren Kruger, who has offered his services,
at a 3% discount to those 2 ignobles against nurture and/or nature and has not
received even an acknowledgement of his generous offer!
Well, since I'm snowed in at one of the few places on earth that still allow me
access to a computer (my beloved HFTCI on my native Lon Guyland), I may as well
quote one of the local rags here "SnoozeDay" which said- and I quote:
"In a predictable move that many critics will slam as hypocritical and a
blow to freedom of speech, raper-I mean rapper Enema-I mean Eminem failed to
take home the top prize of album of the year at last night's Grammy Awards but
did win in 3 rap categories.
Instead, Grammy voters gave the best album prize to quirky veteran popsters
Steely Dan for "Two Against Nature", an album that includes songs
joking about a pedophile, an uncle leching after his teenage niece and an
adulterer who fantasizes about poisoning his wife".
This article was written by the brain-dead Letta Tayler, a staff writer for
Snoozeday, and is pretty typical of her unbelievably stupid, trendy,
vomitacious nonsense.
As usual, she makes no acknowledgement of musical factors relating to the
subject and just talks about the subject of the lyrics. Period.
At this point, that is what passes for music journalism in the newspapers
today. How anyone can take any aspect of the media seriously today is beyond
me, and that includes the Grammys also.
Name: hoops
@mac.com
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 19:17:22
Comments:
JK. No-- I said EJ was ALMOST as *popular* as the Beatles (for a brief period in early 1975) --Just quoting John Lennon by the way. And no, Elton certainly didn't have the impact that the Beatles had in terms of music, creativity and society. Those facets are silly to compare with EJ. Elton is derrivative --not an innovator.
Regarding the "serious" news programs like ET and eXtra overlooking SD. Sure it goes to show you how much over these program's proverbial heads SD is. Celebrity and class don't mix.
Now, the "lightweight" news programs are more in SD's class: am I the only one whose favorite TV thrill today was when Jim Lehrer announced durfing the News Summary segment of News Hour that Steely Dan's 2vN got four Grammys? PBS even showed footage of W + D getting the award.
It's quite apparent that what a number of people listen to is based on entertainment, image, materialism and youth; SD flies quite in the face of that. Entertaining yet challenging, timeless musicianship, values of quality over money and quantity, and maturity on an artistic level.
Revisting EJ/MnM thing one last time, it's sad to see someone like EJ who posesses potential for the great values D + W have instead reaching out for the first set of cheap and fleeting values. On the one hand, EJ played beautifully last night and I thought the vocals were great too, but he looked so much like an old fogey trying tool hard to be hip. Elton holding up Eminem's arm (as champ, I guess) was way too cheesy for me. Leave the Pj's home, Elton and take a costume cue from D + W: wear black again ;-)
How da heck does Elton get off pushing Dido out of her song so he can appear? And who was that annoying guy rapping while Elton performed. He should shut the (bleep) up. I keep hearing people who think Eminem wrote the Dido song part. Take the Dido song away and the visual of the car falling off the bridge and I think the impact of "Stan" is diminished a great deal.
It's interesting: I have heard a couple of times today on the radio where the DJ says, " I love Steely Dan, but I didn't know they even had a new album out." Then of course, the DJ still never plays anything off the album.
Name: Lisa G
How-oo-ow-oo-ow...
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 19:11:21
Comments:
...appropriate--for me anyway. I've been on this Stevie Wonder kick as of late and who should announce the final upset, but...
Sheer bliss!
Name: DrMu
Nasty Dumbass
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 18:49:01
Comments:
The backlash pretzel logic: M&M as a revolutionary (zig heil!)
http://www.latimes.com/news/state/20010222/t000016104.html
Backlash II: M&M as a 1st Amendment hero
http://www.latimes.com/news/state/20010222/t000015812.html
A kinder and gentler Backlash III: Sales is everything
http://www.latimes.com/news/state/20010222/t000015789.html
Disclaimer: Meant for amusement only. It's a beautiful day!
Name: FANOFDAN
@ DOWNUNDER
AUSTRALIA
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 18:37:12
Comments:
Winners are Grinners :)
Congratulations Donald and Walter,its been a long time comming.
If anyone didn't no who Steely Dan was in Australia they do now.
Here's hoping the next world tour includes us Aussies.
Name: p prado
pooh_90710@yahoo.com
Location: harbor city, ca usa
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 18:34:47
Comments:
I have been a dan fan for 25+ years. I cried when I
first got
to hear them the year they first went back on tour. The opening
notes of Babylon Sisters and I was overcome with the happiness i
felt at hearing that beautiful sound live and in color. BUT!
The joy,the sheer delight, the redemption I felt that they
have FINALLY been rewarded by the music people and how ecstatic
I was for D & W! When I heard their name called the first time
I jumped out of my seat and scared the shit out of everyone in
the room. Congrats to D & W-and thanks for your commitment to
excellence--your music is the best.
Name: JWMalibu
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 18:00:07
Comments:
The Steely Dan backlash on the web, meedia, etc. is pretty fuckin' funny...the anti-SD rhetoric is so weak ("they're too old", "they weren't appreciative enough", "who listens to Steely Dan anymore", etc.) ~ they're addressing everything BUT the music!
I say to the detractors: "you wouldn't even know a diamond if you held it in your hand, baby!"
Name: Roy.Scam
someone.shaved.my.wife.tonight
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 17:56:25
Comments:
This just in:
EMINEM MELTS.
RADIOHEAD ACHES.
BECK NOT CALLED.
PAUL SIMON, YOU'RE NOT THE ONE.
The only bad thing about last night's Grammies show was that it destroyed a sexual fantasy I had about Erykuh Badu's head actually being shaped like that headdress she used to wear. I had this recurring dream where we'd meet on Mizar 5 and , anyway, it involved her playing Randy Newman records and standing on a chair and turning on the lights (No, ALL the lights.) Then we'd sing Hat Too Flat to each other, but you don't want to hear all that.
Good to see some blasts from the past here today. Hey SFK, Schwinn, Stranger, Slimmy, etc.. Now give me lisa, joKEr, and Countzero and the drinks are on me.
I keep hearing about the
long-shot selection of Steely Dan over heavily favored Eminem. Let's see:
In this corner, a derivative, white rap anthem to misogyny performed by a
child,
and,
in this corner, an impeccably engineered twenty month labor of love created by
hall-of-fame caliber thirty year veterans whose history includes eleven
critically acclaimed albums and eight of the greatest hit singles in music
history, assisted by some of the world's best session musicians.
Yep, sounds like a stunning upset to me.
RS
Name: Anna Bronady-Haynes
BRONADY@HOTMAIL.COM
Location: KANSAS CITY, MO USA
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 17:45:03
Comments:
I love your music from back in the day. You guys are definitely the BOMB!!!! I am so happy for you and very proud of you. It was a long time coming, but it finally happened. Blessings, Love, Peace and CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!
Name: ||||
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 17:38:25
Comments:
His singing is great on the solo albums but it's even better on TAN, IMHO. It's less shiny, more earthy.
There's a band called Nearly Dan playing at the "Jazz Cafe" in London on March 18th. If anyone has been there or heard the Nearly Dan, I'd love to hear your opinions. I heard a little .wav clip from their website and they sound pretty good.
Name: GoodKingRichard
like looking into Nostradamus' bowl and finding soup
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 17:35:16
Comments:
is it me or is there not just a little irony in Cousin Dupree winning... seem like it's a flawed allegory for the mock pursuit of Grammys and HoF awards (I draw the line at comparisons between cousin Janine and Toni Braxton) only, unlike Cuz,... they won!
... I won't go into the dreary architecture of reviews of D&W's success... but it's in all the papers over here (front page mention in the Australian even - Mr Chow, you must stop reading the AFR!), with more or less grudguing respect... could do without "middle of the road jazz rockers" on TV last night.
While I'm here Mr Chow, sorry to miss your gig at the Basement - when you playing again? Hope your show's going well. Also, I'm now out of TV and rehab and in radio (which also means I'm now in Sydney much more infrequently)... catch you soon
Richard&kangaroos
Name: ^"^
toddler321@rcn.com
NJ
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 17:28:00
Comments:
Well, I just wanted to add my congradulations to the others.I'm so happy for you both...I know you've made a difference in my life and now this exposure might enlighten a few others! Back into the studio now boys and make NJ proud! MLS
Name: Tom Fox
foxtunes@email.com
Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 16:54:20
Comments:
Great website....
Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 16:49:19
Comments:
Congratulations to D&W; I'm pleased to see them finally getting the recognition they deserve from the recording industry. I was so thriled when they won the award for best album I scared the cats.
Steely Pete--Good to see you here again.
Stevie Dan--Yes, the Canadian pianist was marvelous--I can't remember his name either, but he certainly played with tremendous passion and energy.
Triumph--I'm really looking forward to a new solo album by Donald. I love Steely Dan albums as well, but Donald's solo albums are wonderful in a different way--a bit heavier on the rhythm, a little warmer emotionally, and better singing. As Hank Silvers pointed out, Donald sings better on his solo works--freer and more expressive.
Name: Lazy Tina
check it.....
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 16:33:50
Comments:
Amazing...I just got finished watching the grammy wrap ups on ET tonite and Extra. Both had the grammys as their top stories. Not one mention of the Steely Dan name on either program. We all need to write these shows and ask what the fuck is wrong with them! They win 4 awards and not ONE mention. This is sickning.
Name: TheStranger
2 cents
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 16:05:30
Comments:
SteelyFanBand is performing, I believe, at a club in Anaheim, Calif. Fri. March 2, and I was thinking, hey, why not see what they sound like? If they're downright bad, you can always order doubles. Is anybody going? Has anybody heard them?
Haven't dropped by in a long time but just wanted to express my satisfaction that Steely Dan won best album. And better news is that they appear to be working, actually, on making more CDs.
I don't know if M&M is good or not because I don't listen to rap. But like Madonna, he's a marketing genius. Which Don and Walt aren't. They're just talented.
Name: fezo
clipjob
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 15:37:34
Comments:
interesting chat quote from the Post's music critic about the atmosphere at last night's awards:
"There was a whole lot of drug-taking and drinking going on last night. You know, when you see it up close, you realize that a lot of these people just aren't comfortable standing up in front of millions of people. They're regular folks who are terrified. Shelby Lynne looked more terrified than anyone.
The Steely Dan boys, on the other hand, were just as wry and hilarious and unmoved as they could be."
Name: triumph
poop
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 15:22:06
Comments:
It is cool that donald and walter are not going to tour to concentrate on the new CD.
Wouldn't it be better, though, if donald saved his best stuff for SD instead of doing a solo CD as well. I mean he served us up gasfreakinglighting abismal - a warmed over 3rd rate outtake from kami -which was uneven itsself.
He should, in his spare time, lovingly remix and master nightfly for dts, 5.1 and DVD-audio!
poopdedoop
Name: ||||
P.S.
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 15:20:32
Comments:
TAN now at #2 on Amazon...
Name: |||||
ODP ruminations
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 15:17:42
Comments:
The familiar Two Against Nature page from the ODP has always had this little link...
Two Against Nature | On the Radio
Who might be spinning the New Dan?
well, now the answer is... anybody and everybody!
Name: jk
jk
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 15:13:22
Comments:
Hey, just going through all the great messages about the dynamic duo!
let us not forget that they would not have been on that stage last night if it were not for mr peter fogel!!
also - hoops you know that i am a huge fan of yours - but please, elton john was never as big as the beatles. period.
i think that you just want elton to write song about you when you are dead. You are blonde, aren't you?!
Marching to nyc
jk
Name: DrMu
it'sthesmileonmyface
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 15:09:29
Comments:
Boston Rag: You've got me ROFLMAO
M&M site actual excerpt:
"Topic: Who thinks Eminimem got screwed outta the Grammy...
vageta z23: C'mon he shoulda got it. That was insane. The other albums nominated his were crap compared to what M. Mathers LP is. I never heard of the guy who won. I really think the association discrimnated against him on this one. Who agrees?
Other big topic: Is M&M now gay or not??"
Someone saved my life tonight....
Name: Doctor Warren Kruger- Shrink not plastic
surgeon!
Schizopolis.com
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 15:00:45
Comments:
I really resent that remark made by that so-called
"sociable" Hermit chap- my career as a plastic surgeon never included
that Fagin fellow from Steeleye Span!
However, it did come to an auspicious conclusion after the Jack Palance debacle
which, as usual, was not my fault in the slightest. That inebriated thespian
moved at precisely the wrong moment, resulting in yet another change of
profession, name, home etc...
BTW, my offer from last night still stands, and I might throw in some Water
Therapy (which makes gaslighting look like kick the can, comparatively
speaking..
Enimatically Yours,
Dr. Warren K.
Name: Editted by: hoops
hoops@dandom.com
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 14:46:06
Comments:
A R E M I N D E R
NYC to burn up! Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Week 2001
FULL DETAILS:
http://www.dandom.com/halloffameweek
FOGEL'S FOTO FOREPLAY 2K: http://www.asan.com/users/petefogel/
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Week
2001
March 21-25, 2001
Whoa Dandomites! The Dan clean up at the Grammys and then next Walt and Don are IN the Hall of Fame and we're hot and ready to celebrate the great achievement of our favorite musical duo. And of course, there was no way the Swami of Dandom, Pete Fogel, and his loverly Shari could let Dandom down...
Join the minions Dandom as they Converge on NYC during Hall of Fame Week!
NYC will most definitely be burning up with a hot, hot, hot series of shows and events organized by Pete Fogel at Le Bar Bat. Pete even negotiated a special reduced hotel rate exclusively for us Steely Dan fans. The complete list of events, maps, hotels, links, and of course, sign up for the Danfest-NYC List Bot are all accessible at the following red-hot URL:
http://dandom.com/halloffameweek
SIGN UP FOR THE LIST BOT at
http://http://dandom.com/halloffameweek/links.html
a
nd keep checking the site for the latest info and updates.
The following is a Schedule of events.
------------
To be read in the voice of Jerome
Anton:
"New York City is gonna be set afire..."
Celebrating Steely Dan
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Week 2001 NYC
SCHEDULE OF EVENTS!
Wed 3/21
VH-1 Television Presents
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
featuring Steely Dan
Video taped 48 hours earlier, check your local television listings for the premier of our favorite duo's induction. Stock up on special-recipe Swedish ginger cookies now. Pick up a blank video tape while you are at the store.
Don't even THINK about getting into the actual event.
Thu 3/22
Chuck Rainey
with Elliott Randall
Opening Act: Tycoon Dog opens at 9 PM
Rainey/Randall at 10:45 pm, Le Bar Bat, Cover: $15
Legendary bassist Chuck Rainey has recorded with everyone from Louis Armstrong to Marvin Gaye to Paul Simon, but is best known for his work with Steely Dan.("Pretzel Logic," "The Royal Scam," "Katy Lied," "Aja," "Gaucho," and "The Nightfly"). His work with Rick Marotta on "Peg" is still referred to today as the definitive groove.
Joining Chuck is guitarist Elliott Randall. Elliott is probably best known for his riveting guitar solo on "Reelin' in the Years". A solo considered by Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page to be his favorite of all time.
Tycoon Dog is a new band that features keyboardist Malcolm "YGK" Hunter, a regular of the "Under the Banyon Trees" Internet guestbook.
Fri 3/23
The Steely Damned
A Tribute to the Music of Steely Dan
WITH SPECIAL GUEST
BERNARD PURDIE
11:30 pm, Le Bar Bat
Cover: $20 ($10 with Internet Coupon at website)
From San Diego, the award winning tribute band "The Steely Damned" performing songs from all eight Steely Dan albums and Donald Fagen's "The Nightfly". This is the band Walter Becker favorably commented about on Steely Dan's PBS special. All 15 band members are flying in from San Diego. The Steely Damned's Bob Tedde (leader) and "Peg" may be known to regulars of the "Under the Banyon Trees" Internet guestbook.
Bernard Purdie, who played drums on "Babylon Sisters", "Kid Charlemagne", and many other classic Steely Dan songs will be sitting in with The Steely Damned on Friday March 23rd. Bernard will be doing the "Purdie Shuffle" on these legendary tunes. If you really want to get psyched, go put on the "Making of Aja" Documentary, and watch "The Hit Maker" in action.
"The Steely Damned perform eerily accurate renditions of virtually every
Steely Dan song"--Rolling Stone
"If you're a Steely Dan fan,
this show is not to be missed"
--Metal Leg (Steely Dan Fanzine)
Sat 3/24
Rockola
11:30 pm, Le Bar Bat
Cover: $20 ($10 with Internet Coupon at website)
Rockola. Voted San Diego's "Best Classic Rock Band" 6 years running (until they gave way to The Steely Damned). Rockola is another band under the superb leadership of The Steely Damned's Bob Tedde.
"They're hip, they're happening, they're now, they're then-- they're Rockola!" --Paul Shaffer, CBS' "The Late Show with David Letterman"
Name: Jen
WOW, and whoa..
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 14:41:16
Comments:
The Gbook sure has been busy since last night's delicious victories! It took me forever to finally get through them all. I've been here since early morning Lady B, I just only finally made it to the top. Squonks is now offically open for those of you who'd like a celebratory drink! (Hope you don't mind LB, I'm just kinda running with that name for now) Cristal all around? Anyway, I'd like to offer up my congrats along with everyone else's. Man, is there any better feeling to be expecting the worst and then realizing the BEST! I would have been just as happy for the winning if they had been the favorites all along, but the fact that no one, not even W&D, thought it would ACTUALLY happen made me absolutely giddy! My 4 year old thought something was wrong with me. Jaw was dropped to the floor! I was literally speechless until the thanks-yous were over. Then it was hats and hooters all the way. I just HAD to crank up 2vN after that. I've also been listening to a lot of the stuff I haven't listened to in awhile as well, just basking in the glow. Does David Palmer have an unbelievable sound on "Dirty Work", or what? I think I listened to that line "but I'll stay here just the saaaaaame" about 200 times in a row today. I've also been listening to 11 Tracks of Whack a lot more today. Man, that Moody Bastard kicks my ass! Gawd he sounds sooo sexy! Why doesn't he sing more often?? Oh, and as for sales rising for 2vN now, I can offer up my only piece of evidence in it's new-found interest. I have personally had, and yes I counted, 35 different people attempting to download the entire 2vN off of me on Napster just in the last coupla hours. It's nice being an outsider, but it's also nice when people's interest is sparked and they get opened up to your world a little. Okay, nothing origianl for me to offer here today. Just wanted W&D to see my congrats and thanks if they should happen to drop by today and check out what we're saying. (Do you all think they do that??) I'm at the bar if anyone needs anything, well, other than the complimentary champagne that is.
Proud to be here with you all,
Jenny
I foresee terrible trouble, and I stay here just the same...
Name: Boston Rag
Shady wuz robbed!
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 14:40:39
Comments:
If you want a good laugh, check out some of the posts on the Eminem website.
There is a forum section, the equivalent of this GB at http://www.eminem.com.
They are totally pissed off about D & W. What a bunch of whiny, illiterate punks. They don't have a clue who Steely Dan is. "never heard of him" "who is he??" The future of our civilization sometimes scares me.
I was going to post a big evil laugh - BWUUUUAHHHAAAAHAAAAA.
Mark in Boston
Name: moray eel
checking in
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 14:33:52
Comments:
Congrats to D + W.
Two Against Nature is selling well on Amazon today. It's in 2nd place behind Dave Matthews Band. A litle more pocket change for the terrible twosome.
m.e.
Name: |||||||
Lurkers are percolating to the surface of the Danscape.
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 14:18:39
Comments:
Wonderful to see you all here!
Here is the tally (rough count) of posts to this GB over the last few days. See what the Grammys have wrought! :)
Sat. 33 ***
Sun. 31 ***
Mon. 50 *****
Tue. 73 *******
Wed. 178 ******************
Thu. 97 **********
& counting...
Name: Aris Paul
aris.paul@t-online.de
Location: Merzig, Germany
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 13:40:00
Comments:
Hi,
a mail out of the Steely Dan
diaspora.
What a unbelievable joy to see the DAN at the biggest german newsshow. What a
fun to see Don and Walt in the GRAMMY show, what a luck to have them seen last
year 2 times here live. My greetings are going to the band and all the other
fans all over the world.
Aris (biggest DAN fan since over 20 years in Germany)
Name: jon
stripe
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 13:31:03
Comments:
Hank: No slam on ol' Perry was intended. I just thought it was kind of interesting to note a parallel between the olden days and now.
I for one was jumping up and down on my bed like a schoolgirl in a pillow fight each of the 4 times the envelope was read and our boys were vindicated.
Name: Hank Silvers
hanksilvers@dog.com
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 13:24:10
Comments:
Jon/yellow stripe: that's putting it in perspective. I heard a recording of an 50's Elvis live performance from some Vegas nightclub, and his attitude was one long middle finger at those squares out there in the audience. His reputation has smoothed out significantly over the years.
However, don't go dissing Perry Como, now...Hot diggity, zog diggity, boom...and those Kraft Christmas specials...
One more best-album Grammy for the baby boomers, following Santana's win in
2000. Yes, I know it's apples and oranges, considering all the young guest
stars on Supernatural.
Name: Original Lester
steelyman11@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 13:21:38
Comments:
A few thoughts on the obvious topic of the day:
1. Walt thanked "our fans" after they won the pop album award. That's us, peeps.
2. Does this bring us closer to the mainstream, or did the Grammys just embrace real music for once?
3. After the Milli Vanilli debacle, and then Celine Dion and Alanis Morrisette winning Album of the Year, I stopped caring about the Grammys alltogether. But this is really, really cool.
4. Is Gumbel a Mathers fan? If his rimjob buddy the Artist Formerly Known as a Worthwhile Musician won the award, he'd be gloating for months. I knew I never liked his sorry ass.
Name: fezo
likethemomentwhenthebrakeslock
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 12:25:55
Comments:
wow, the Grammy triumph was enough to even melt my frozen core. way cool. four for four. i realize i'm a minority in thinking this, but i hope the success won't push them back out on the road this summer to capitalize. i much rather wait a year and have new product and their second tour in the 21st Century.
i heard Gumbel's crack too this a.m. what a loser. trying to sound young by bashing the Dan without realizing that the musically clued in of all ages realize how deserved the awards were.
so that's what Libby Titus looks like . . .
Name: µ
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 12:08:57
Comments:
One could say the music biz got a much needed Eminemina last night.
Libby was very excited wasn't she?
Name: Lew Chang
It`s been a while
Location: Oz,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 12:08:07
Comments:
Well!, i`m speechless, congratulations to Don & Walt on a great result. You finally got your just deserves!, i carn`t wait to watch it tonight. So all i need now is an anouncment of a new album next year, followed by an Australian tour to promote it!............Just FUCKING Great!!.............Who is this Fucking M&M prick anyway????............O High to Mr Chow & Fan of Dan!........drop a line some time!
Name: thirdworldman
Location: Glasgow ,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 11:53:20
Comments:
After 30 years in the business, still reelin' in the trophies, ITV news, UK this evening.
I nearly choked on my deep fried Mars Bar tonight when I got the news on returning from work. I've nothing against Eminem, other than him being an overrated, overhyped white boy who wishes he was Chuck D but never will be. However, although these awards are a farce, SD music should not even be compared to crap like him and N'Sync etc etc.
Go on the lads
Oh, and Toni Braxton was looking pretty shaggable as well!!!
Going to chat if anyone is into it.
Al
Name:
wormy
~ ~
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 11:42:18
Comments:
hey Herm - glad to hear you coming up for air!
check back now and then
Aja - yes, that Python skit
and the winner is Dolly Parton... again
although Shelby Lynne gets an a for effort
was that Grammy official's pre Eminem "lessons in radicalism" speech lame?
send it out there without an apology first
Chere l'Amour - nice catching up with you yesterday
le bon femmes Snakehips - vous savez que le ver est votre ami étroit et ne veut rien mieux que pour chuchoter des nothings doux dans des vos oreilles toute la journée
wt
this brother is free
Name:
Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 11:30:29
Comments:
Not to take things too literally, but....
Aja..does this mean Donald and Walter have the biggest tits?
Um, musically speaking, I mean?
*giggle*
Lady B
Name:
Lady Bayside
@work, again
Location: NYC,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 11:28:31
Comments:
Stompin' down the Avenue by Radio City, I passed Coconuts..the music store (guess calling it a record store belies my age, huh?) and just for kicks, ventured in.
I asked one of the employees there what people have been buying; he said....
Everyone's been coming in for that Steely Dan album. I didn't see the show last night. Did he win the Grammy?
Yeah, "he" did.
Don't worry, I enlightened him.
Platinum, here we come!
Lady B
Name:
Aja
2vN and U2 in continuous rotation today
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 11:24:21
Comments:
Hey Herm, we've missed you!
I woke up this morning to my local jazz station announcing Steely Dan's win. YEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW! I turned the Grammy's off halfway through after concluding that real music was dead. That show is prime for a Monty Python parody. Anyone remember the "All England Summarizing Proust in Swimsuits" Competition? After a number of contestants try and fail to summarize the complete works of Proust in 15 seconds the emcee says "Oh fuck it. Let's just give the award to the woman with the biggest tits!" The Grammy's took this to heart.
Congratulations Donald and Walter! You outclassed everyone up there. The "competition" wouldn't know a musician if one bit them on the ass.
Back to the usual dime dance,
Aja
Name:
Zukie Sarantos
zukie2music@aol.com
Location: Chula Vista, CA USA
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 11:23:05
Comments:
Steely Dan had a good concert and a good cd, They deserved all the grammy's they won. Donald Fagen had a great voice and played the keyboard great. Walter Becker really knows how to play the guitar. I'll go see Steey Dan again anywhere in concert. I really like Steely Dan alot!!!
Name:
The-Artist-Formerly-Known-As-Sociable-Hermit
Haven't gotten the new keyboard with my new "symbol-name" on it
yet...
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 11:10:22
Comments:
Hey,
I know I said that I wouldn't be coming around here for a long time, (and that statement was made only a short time ago), but I felt compelled to pop-in today to offer up my congratulations to Don, Walt, and all of us long-suffering fans on yesterday's wonderful announcements! Congratualtions times 100! It's just a damn shame about them that the night will best be remembered because of M&M, instead of SD's long past due recognition. The guy hates homosexuals, then claims he doesn't, then agrees to sing with Elton, looks like he's going to explode when Elton hugs him, then presumably gets pissed because of all of it at the end and gives the finger to the audience. The audience that was stupid enough to buy over 10 million copies of a hateful, yet boringly derivitive, album. He claims not to condone or advocate the behaviour he sings (?!) about on his record, yet nowhere in the record does he condemn it either. Ahh, I've already said enough ~ going on any further just proves that his marketers and PR folks are doing their job.
By the way, a quote by DF was listed in the LA Daily News as coming from "Dan" Fagen. Even if they had the vowel correct, who ever refers to him as Don except the people in this gb? Maybe they figure he's the "Steely Dan" they're refering to. I'm looking forward to someday maybe him and Floyd from Pink Floyd doing a duet. That would be cool.
Another thought: Could Dr. Warren Kruger be the plastic surgeon that affixed the permanent sneer to Donald's face?
Anyway, I hope everyone is remaining as cool as ever. And congrats again to the boys! Looking forward to next year's release, "Two Against Eminem".
Later,
Herm
Name:
wormy
~ ~ ~
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 10:43:18
Comments:
so does this mean that the Dan is now the old norm?
no,
who put the r in sar chasm anyway?
Name:
Gina
peEk?
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 10:42:58
Comments:
excusez-moi
Name:
Gina
ROFLAO
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 10:42:07
Comments:
notice the difference ... i went for a peak on the eminem site and played mouse in the present chatroom.
as far as i got to read messages,
they went way toooooooooooo fast for sooo many of them logged in, no-one talked
about the grammies. it takes little even less imagination to figure out the
average level of cerebral activity and what i read in articles earlier today,
about the cultural significance of eminem ... having fans using handles such as
hitler, well ..
yeah right?!?!
only those who write for a living about it, contemplate and stand sidelined may view it like that ... the audience buying the records sure took no O.D. on any cultural fix IMHO. you know, always wondered what it was, "IMHO" and one day, staring at this GB screen it hit me, its meaning!
anyway, visiting eminem's chat is not good for vision as in good for the eyes. vision, haha, having witnessed that makes this Grammevent even ...
perhaps later,
Gdot
Name:
jon @ his yellow stripe
Is there an analogy here?
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 10:38:22
Comments:
When farty old dude, Perry Como, won the first Grammy award for "Best Pop Vocal Performance, Male" in 1958, do you think the kids who propelled Elvis' "Hard Headed Woman" to number 1 that same year felt ripped off?
Name:
Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 10:30:28
Comments:
Dr. Mu, et al...
Number 3. Things are speeding up.
Lady B
Name:
DrMu
@lunch
Location: Nostrildamus,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 10:11:10
Comments:
see - it only took 21 min. Better set up those bunkers filled with sand and anti-aircraft machine guns. The voleys have just begun...
On amazon.com NOW
1.Everyday: Dave Matthews Band
2.All That You Can't Leave Behind: U2
3.O Brother, Where Art Thou: Various Artists - Soundtracks - 2000
4.Two Against Nature: Steely Dan
5.The Beatles1: The Beatles
Name:
James
dewey15401@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 10:07:05
Comments:
Regarding Bryant Gumbel's snotty comments on Steely
Dan's
sweep, On Today, Matt Lauer and Katie Couric were more
real. Matt thought that the album was great and Katie referred to them as nice
following their appearance on the Today show last year.
Guess that's another reason why Gumbel's still in third place behind Katie and Matt. Hey Bryant, better get another Survivor guest, because that's the only way you get ratings. Katie and Matt have class. Bryant, on the other hand, well, represents class, minus the first two letters.
What were Bryant's exact words if
you remember them?
Please let me know, I need a good laugh.
Name:
Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 09:47:19
Comments:
If I was jazzed before, I am beyond that now...the NYC Danfest is going to be *so* much fun...
I am looking forward to meeting all of you who are making plans to attend.
Dare I say it?
Oh, what the heck....
Yes, we're gonna have a wingding.....
Lady B
Name:
D.J. Mitch
@ WJAZ MT.BELZONI
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 09:46:02
Comments:
Congrats Don and Walt.......Does anyone else here feel vindicated?........This is such a great feeling...... !YES guilty, can i get Life ?......Four for Four......nice to hear fans acknowledged.......Jack of Speed should have been released as single.....I wish Gary Katz could have been a part of this tribute......Will there now be Danfans coming out of the closet? This is a new role for everyone in Dandom,mainstream exceptance...I always liked being an outsider, but this is fuckin great!
Name:
Dr. WuWu
@ work
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 09:41:48
Comments:
All I have to say is...
IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!!!
Congrats to Don and Walt and all the musicians involved on 2Vn.
See you all at Le Bar Bat next month.
Name:
Howard
going home ...
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 09:41:06
Comments:
cara mia: amazing the connections you can make on the www!
I've been a bit slow to realise, but I think we first "met" (electronically speaking) on the Joni discussion list, a couple of years back? There weren't that many joni fans on the list who also raved about SD, so the ones that did stood out!
Great to see Joni's new album pick up two Grammys.
Howard
P.S The best Joni tabs and tunings (IMHO) are available at Les' excellent site: www.jmdl.com/guitar
I've been doing some updates there recently, and a "new improved" list of all Joni's tunings should appear very soon!
Name:
Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 09:25:06
Comments:
Michael...although I am an NYC person, my handle references Boston Rag.
Just read the "Who the hell gave these guys a Grammy" article. All I can say, besides ouch, is....
Bite me. Hard.
Definitely unLadylike, but really. Show some respect here.
Oh yeah, Eminem really deserved a Grammy. Puhlease.
BTW...bar's open, I'm pouring, awaiting Jen's arrival. Drinks are on me.
Lady B
Name:
Edd
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 09:24:32
Comments:
Music365 lists a Steely Dan album called "Asia".
I think that properly sets the stage...
Name:
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 09:19:08
Comments:
wow - i feel so much better now
Name:
lp
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 09:10:37
Comments:
okay veteran posters, let this guy 365 have it with both barrels, where is x and the good doctor when i need them?!
check your email if you are on my distribution list and have fun stormin his castle!
gotta go, see you Monday!
.....riding the crest of the wave breaking just west of hollywood......
Name:
The Man
theman@music365.co.uk
Location: London, UK
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 08:27:54
Comments:
Who the hell gave a Grammy to the Dan? We've got a brief history of Steely Dan and a reaction to the Grammys on our site
Check it out at http://www.music365.com/autocontent/feature_59757.htm
Name:
cara mia
fan kudos and connections
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 08:26:33
Comments:
For our Howard Wright fans:
1- I clicked the link on the SD ODP reference for the Grammies
2- on that Yahoo page for listed winners I clicked Joni Mitchell
3- then clicked reference to Joni's guitar tunings
4- the AOL fellow who posted her
tabulations gave Howard credit
in his links page
Nice. Of course I know D/W credit him on their links page too, but the tunneling was fun.
Hubba hubba Doozer with a little hug back at you Dano!
cara mia
Name:
michael
NWP2@excite.com
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 08:24:17
Comments:
Hey lady Bayside I used to live in Bayside up until last May ..Lived on 212 a couple blocks fom Bell and a stones throw from Northern. Enjoy the victory!
Name:
BF
krouse@javanet.com
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 08:19:52
Comments:
I don't think this a repeat - sorry if it is - an AP article
on Bette Midler and Stevie Wonder getting ready to present the award and a
little bit of interview:
http://news.excite.com/news/ap/010222/03/grammys-vignettes
Name:
Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 08:14:51
Comments:
Just checked out Amazon.com and TvN is 6th on the list of top sellers.
I agree with whoever said the album will go platinum.
Geez, I need coffee. Dean & Deluca, here I come.
LB
Name:
DrMu
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 08:12:47
Comments:
Oh, Randy Newman won only his second Grammy for an original song from the Toy Story II soundtrack
Name:
DrMu
I think the vampire-looking guy is Steely
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 08:06:52
Comments:
Yes, the stunned hush that fell over the Staples Center was reward enough, eh?
Hell, I'm stilled stunned - though I had a feeling - just thought it was another "Cubs fan hallucination."
But this morning seems like BizarroWorld. On the way to work I hear that W is recommending a record increase in Education spending (that's the way to keep Laura happy) and weirdest of all a Phillip-Morris ad promoting their educational foundation. Have to avoid the coffee from caffeine synthase kncokout beans...
Saw out of corner of my eye at 7:15 or so Walter commenting tongue in cheek on CBS??? this mornin' that they're used to being the outsiders - might have to give the awards back.
So the post-hype and backlash begin - there aren't two guys who could handle it with more class, wit, and strategy. Could be an escape back to Hawaii soon.
Backlash - My right wing Huey
take is that the left-wing extremist media hates:
HARD WORK
CRAFTSMANSHIP
STUDYING THE PREVIOUS WORKS OF THE GREATS FOR LOVE AND SCHOLARSHIP
APPROPRIATE HUMBLENESS
INTELLIGENCE AND THOUGHT
PERFECTION AND GRACE
Expect a lot more Gumblebabble...
I would have loved to have heard Donald's conversation with Stevie Wonder - expression of fondness and love for jazz and Sir Duke...
Name:
Tony from Chicago
slashtdc@pipeline.com
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 08:03:58
Comments:
There was a very intelligent post late Wednesday night begging everyone to still the torrent of wrong-headed gloating, because it was embarassing and not true to the wry, ironic spirit of B&F. There was also someone who observed that maybe this Grammy win was a compensation for the Toto year. How about considering the fact that maybe the same forces are responsible for Toto AND Steely Dan winning, namely the 13,000 voting members of NARAS, only about 100 celebrity members or so the general public are familiar with. One reason why the Grammys results surprise us year after year (Bonnie Raitt! Christopher Cross! Bob Dylan! Paul Simon the year he won without having a record out!) is that voter preference hardly ever parallels popular taste. Think of it as more like a school board election: you vote for who you know, or who you know your friends know. In the case of Steely Dan, I'd guess there are more musicians, engineers, etc. who have worked with them over the years than all the other nominees combined, so the win, although it thrills me, doesn't surprise me, nor does it redeem me. Look at U2, they had three big-name producers working on their record (Eno, Lillywhite, Lanois), so the multiplier effect kicked in for them, too. So it's great to see them get some respect after all those years, but as for the record itself, aside from "Almost Gothic" and "West of Hollywood," (two songs I think will stand up over time) it was okay, but hardly the best album of the year. Still, however, better than the other four nominees, far as I can tell. This win puts a smile on my face, but that's it; at 10 a.m. I haven't taunted anyone in my office about it and don't plan to.
Name:
maj©
tck@careerfrontier.net
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 08:01:32
Comments:
One more thing: I work in a high school. I've been asking students today if they watched the Grammys and what did they think of Eminem NOT winning album of the year. Boy, you should hear and see their puzzled disgust about the old guys, whom they've never heard of, winning it. heheehehehee.
maj©
Name:
Michael
NWP2@excite.com
Location: clifton, NJ USA
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:59:11
Comments:
IT's HOG DAY HEAVEN...We finally scorched all the swine. Victorious...I heard the news from my mom on my answering machine as I got in to my apt. late last night. I didn't realize that we swept the awards in a Forest Gump fashion. It finally hit me when every one in my office was congradulating me. In a way the fans won because well it's been a long time coming. I'm a young wiper snapper in Dan years, 25 and I have been cranking out dan for only about 5 of those years. but it's weird I starting following Becker and Fagan and they hit a peak commercially and musically just as my passion for them has hit a peak. Usually with older bands that I like it's all over the wave of greatness has left and seeing them like is nice but a bit dull. Dan on the other hand is sweeter than ever and my experience in Boston with Bill, Hoops, Mark and that cool guy from NY/leBarBat (sorry I forgot your name) was monumental in my life and I'll never forget those first few chords strummed for Boston Rag. Well Dan Fans enjoy the glory...We knew it all along it's just the rest of the world that was lagging behind!
Name:
Joe Wilson
Wilsonj@dnb.com
Location: Cleveland, oh USA
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:58:47
Comments:
At 10:58 pm est. last evening a shot was heard round the music world, and enjoyed by those of us "in the know". The best musicians in the land were recognized. What a personal moment for the select group of Becker and Fagan fans who have recognized the extreme talent for so long. A most excellent moment.
Name:
maj©
tck@careerfrontier.net
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:55:13
Comments:
"We've been around a long time, it's nice to finally get one of these." I liked that quote of Donald's. It was a peek inside the Don. In my humble opinion, I believe that if the bestowing organization is credible and worthy, Fagen would welcome and value the recognition. There is a big IF though.
Seems like this is a good time to unveil a long-overdue project I researched and prepared some months back but never announced -- Big Nardo: Becker and Fagen, Personalities At Work.
The URL is http://www.careerfrontier.net/html/steely_dan.html
At this time, it includes an in-depth personality study of Donald Fagen in relation to being a composer and musician. For fun, I added a section on famous persons the same personality type as Fagen, an INFP. There is a ten-page interpretive report for you to view. The report was generated by my judgements of how Fagen would likely answer the 125 question personality survey.
I would be interested in your feedback, send directly to my email address, not to this guestbook please.
Walter, you are next. Congratulations Walter and Donald.
maj©
Name:
Jiradej
academists@aol.com
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:48:49
Comments:
Just heard about the Grammy. What can I say? They
deserve it!
For those of you punks who still don't get it, let's just say that it's about
the music, kids. Steely dan is one of a very few groups who continues making
real good music in the show biz world today.
Name:
everyone
everywhere
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:39:37
Comments:
If you are not seeing the newly updated steelydan.com page, you should try hitting "refresh" or "reload" button on your browser. The old version is probably cached to your hard drive.
Name:
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:38:43
Comments:
Ok, now I see the change on the SD site. Come to think of it, now, I get to see the same thing Bette Midler and Stevie Wonder saw on stage. Ok... just Bette Midler :)
Name:
Steven
syates59@hotmail.com
Location: Hartford, CT USA
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:37:39
Comments:
How sweet it is!
Long-deserved, long-overdue. LONG LIVE STEELY DAN!
I can only hope for more from the best band there is!
All of Dan-dom should just smile, cue up 2vN and enjoy, savor the moment of sweet victory. And the cool thing is, had they not been nominated, had they not won, we, the fans, the appreciators of Steely Dan's music, would still be able to (as we have for all these years) put on any of their works and enjoy the music just the same.
Call me in 25 years and let me know how those M&M discs sound, ok?
Name:
Jim
#
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:32:42
Comments:
Lou G: That was funny as hell!
Name:
Lou G
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:30:12
Comments:
I was way deep into nothing special... painting shelves
in the garage. My wife came out and said, "Steely Dan just won best pop
album of the year." I said Honey lay off the crack pipe. She said, no
really!
I came in and watched their "speech", wiping paint from my hands.
Un-fucking-believable is all I could say. It was the first time my kids heard
me utter the F-word. My son looked at me and said yeah, I agree, Eminem got
robbed.
Later I saw Tony Danza's interview. What a riot. I think he was trying to
figure out which one was "Dan."
I "grew up" musically listening to SD. It's nice to see some industry
recognition of what I've known for 25+ years...
Lou G
Name:
wormy
~ ~ ~ ~
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:29:27
Comments:
just wait till Don and Walt return to Aloha
we can catch them on the dan cam
sacreligous posterings with those grammys
Name:
Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:24:49
Comments:
When I go to the site, I see a picture of the envelope from last night announcing TvN as Album of the Year.
LB
Name:
NYC
HERE I COME!!
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:20:24
Comments:
That wing-ding at the Bat bar next month is really going to be special now! It's going to be one really BIG party! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!
See you in NYC!
Name:
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:17:21
Comments:
I thought the SD site was updated? When I go there I don't see any changes. Is
it only me?
Name:
lp
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:14:51
Comments:
nobody's in chat but me and some guest, anyone?
Name:
"dano"
hubba hubba
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:12:19
Comments:
Cara Mia ( hubba hubba ) 28 years also from the tender age of 17 , I have one word for you DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZER.
Robin, yes Reelin was in Almost Famous at the end party scene,still a mueller of a track mate???
TWM,Howard,SFK, Do you guys know where we can catch the Awards over in the UK, Is it on Sky/MTV or somewhere any ideas???
Name:
Lady Bayside
@work
Location: NYC,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:05:04
Comments:
As Hoops succinctly put it last night on chat...
oh my fucking gawd!
Excuse my unLadylike speech, but you can't say it better.
I was screaming like a deranged woman last night with the first award...great to see people dropping in chat after the Grammys ended..and one of my favorite parts..watching the arrogant look on Eminem's face fade as the Boys were announced the winner of Album of the Year.
In honor of this tremendous occasion in Dandom history, Jen and I will be serving drinks on the house today. It might be a little early for her to be around, but I am confident she will concur with my decision.
Nice work, guys. Pure genious is finally recognized.
Lady B, so sorry she's loaned out TvN to a friend
Name:
Zeke
here in the Southern World
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 07:01:39
Comments:
Congratulations guys!
It is well deserved. What a great moment.
Let's get 2001 rolling!!!
Name:
bsavvvta
dmatian@hotmail.com
Location: Naked, Grace Without
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:54:49
Comments:
Steely Dan wins the "Album of the Year" Grammy...no surprise. Age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill. Kudos to Don and Walt and have a cocktail on me!!!
Name:
One Track Mind
geez
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:54:35
Comments:
Q- I hate to ruin the good vibe here today but.....is $$$$$$$$$$$$ the only thing you think about?
Name:
Gina
This is ..... Music Television V for victory?
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:54:26
Comments:
"What a friggin' joke. You cannot tell me that
Eminem didn't deserve the Album of the Year award. He's the best. I have never
even heard of the jackasses who won it. First of all, they showed no enthusiasm
when they were going up to get it. They said practically nothing, and they
sounded flat-ass drunk to me. Eminem deserved it hands down."
Dravensmama
:-))))))))))))))))))))
It's a perfect loop out of the era, I guess! I am still all smiles because of
all this, haha. Safe to say most of those who listen to Steely Dan and were
teens and adolescents in their own times DO have some knowledge about what was
previously ruling or reigning the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's (previous centuries
not included, haha) ... even if some of it didn't match their musical taste,
doubt whether the attitude was like the example copied above, haha!
And following this spark, sigh, the saga continues! ... no Eminem or Britney or similar contemp(t)orary music will eventually make that Hall of Fame.. my guess is they will end up coated in dust in atticks and basements, flamed by the whims of childhood & youth. Unlike the Dannishness we've all gotten ourselves into, right?:
"All I have to say is, wow. I couldn't believe Steely Dan won. I am 16, and I think I am the youngest Steely Dan fan. I have been a fan since I was seven, and I am amazed, since not that many people know them or have even heard of them. Well, that puts all the controversy to rest."
Evan, 16
Banyan Tree All Dimensional Dancing Bow,
Gina
Name:
Correction
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:48:56
Comments:
Blaise- It was Dave Russell, Roger, and Elliot on stage. Phil Burnett wasn't there.
Name:
Kelly Davis
krdavis66@hotmail.com
Location: Cisne, IL USA
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:48:15
Comments:
Last night's Grammy's was great!!
Host had no class though.
Don and Walt - it was worth the wait.
Steely Dan was the only logical choice!
Name:
lp
oops i did it again
Location: directing traffic, eh, blaise?
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:46:14
Comments:
and thanks to the posters here who put out the links, those were great!
Name:
The Expanding Man
spencerinvest@aol.com
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:45:35
Comments:
I was in a bar last night with a friend when I caught a glimpse
of the TV set on the wall - and there were B&F accepting their
much-deserved and very belated award.
It's a long time coming. I am sooooooooooo pscyhed today that these two
geniuses, who've given me more musical pleasure than any other artists, have
finally gotten their due.
I read the comments from an earlier fan regarding Bryant Gumbel's quips about
their chances last night. Ditto, buddy - he's pompous, condescending talking
head.
I didn't get to hear B&F's words/speech, but I heard it was short and
sweet. Good for them.. They should have been up there holding that trophy in
'78 after Aja blew everyone away in '77.
They got a name for the winners in the world - and this year that name is
Steely Dan.
Name:
luckless pedestrian
i like weird
Location: weird is good,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:44:52
Comments:
what a night - it was great to see their astonished but very pleased faces out there - wow - i'm just reelin in my years now of being a longtime fan since 1972!!!
congrats you real bad boys of jazz/pop/rock, steely-danny whatever
a local "hollyweird" reporter in boston commented on how everyone gets so upset about eminem's lyrics when steely dan writes about incest and scurvy people - well, yeah joyce, what's your point - they got class (da steely dan t-shirts.....) - woohoo!
hope they check in here to see this spread, these trees are swaying and reaching high today, there's names in here i've never seen - nothin like some grammies to bring out the lurkers!
i kept thinking yesterday - even if the voters for the grammies didn't like the boys' music, how can anyone in good conscience award the "work" of the likes of n sync and britney spears? if my 8 year old is a big fan of those 2 groups (but she knows cousin dupree by heart), that's likely a sign the "music" is simplistic.....
have a wonderful day everyone - it's a promisng day for the music industry
hey vh-1 and mtv must be reeling from this win, they have no video's to show as backdrop to their broadcasts - bummer- guess they'll have to shell out to PBS to get rights to use their video - hahaha, i love it.......
going into chat if anyone is around 9:48 AM EST
Name:
Hank Silvers
hanksilvers@dog.com
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:42:40
Comments:
Break out the hats and hooters...
Last January, many of us were trying to hook up to KFOG last January to hear Cousin Dupree for the first time.
Then a month later, and just
about a year ago, 2vN was officially released, and The Two set forth on the
promotion grind. They cooperated just enough with the star-maker machinery
to get what they wanted.
If the award does include that vacation in Orlando, well, they've earned it...
And finally; nice outfits they had on, eh? Looked like DF + WB were going to audition for Regis's job hosting Millionaire...
Name:
Boston Rag
It's on the SD site too..
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:26:03
Comments:
Looks like they put the Grammy envelope
on the SD web site too.....
Heard a lot of SD bashing on the
morning shows.
Bryant Gumbel - "Album of the Year? Steely Dan???? Come on!"
F*** him, an idiotic talking head.
Name:
Aus
@work
Location: NYC, NY USA
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:21:02
Comments:
Interesting to get a younger person's perspectives on what happened last night: Little B (21 years old) marvelled at how "that guy" Steely Dan had an attitude when called up on stage to win best album of the year. "He didn't say anything...we've been around a long time, thank you...what was that?!" Well, I thought their reaction was just perfect...and totally in character with who they are. Moreover, I think their terse and relatively emotionless "speech" added to the shock factor which reverberated in the Staples Arena seconds after the announcement for best album of the year was made....further underscoring, highlighting and bolding in caps the burning question: Who the fuck ARE these guys????!!!!
WooooooooooHooooooo!
Celebrations to ensue at fairly
torrid pace tonight in NYC.
Have a super day everybody!
Still ecstatic,
Aussie
Name:
Boston Rag
What would this fetch on ebay??
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:20:18
Comments:
Check this out...
http://www.giantrecords.com
A cool photo of the winning
envelope that Bette Midler
read to announce to the world that "Two Against Nature"
was the Album of the Year.
Still buzzin'
Mark in Boston
Name:
Edd
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:17:53
Comments:
re: "...setback for Grammy organizers."
Good grief. Obviously the demographic data shows the focus group that responds
to Steely Dan doesn't spend as much money as the group that responds to
"more cutting edge" acts.
Ya know, the recognition is, in my mind, well deserved. Congrats.
That said, the Grammy awards are a joke. Too much energy spent on "fashion",
and "presentation" and "can we squeeze in another
commercial?", and not enough focus on the music.
The best part was Donald's deadpan delivery of "very excited" when
veteran rock journalist Tony Danza asked him how he felt.
Name:
everyone
everywhere
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:16:09
Comments:
The official Steely Dan web site has been updated!
http://www.steelydan.com
Name:
Whatevah happens
happens
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:15:43
Comments:
... and it happened, last night~! Way to go Don and Walt, we love ya!
Blaise; the other two guys on stage were Elliott Scheiner and Phil Burnett, the other engineers on the album.
Name:
Robin
What A Difference A Year Makes
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:12:14
Comments:
Roughly seven and a half months ago upon mentioning to coworkers and friends that I was planning to go to two Steely Dan concerts, I was met with raised eyebrows, blank stares or touches of condescension on several occasions. Nothing hostile, but to say they were not sharing my enthusiasm was understatement. I knew that those who had not seen what I did operated at another level musically than I. I never questioned the quality of MY musical tastes, of course. ;-)
As I sat (some of the time) in the audiences of those two shows, I knew I was in the presence of genius. To see that genius validated before millions was an incredible feeling. I don't know that I could be happier were it me accepting the statue. (Not that I'll ever experience it, anyway.)
There are those (and always will be) who will use various excuses as to why Group or Person X didn't win, or try to downplay the kudos placed upon the Dan. Many artists who are now considered to be in the top percentage of their fields weren't appreciated by the reviewers/commentators in their time, either. No matter. We who know do not question that these awards were deserved. Of course, this may also mean that we may find our music to be more mainstream. Good for music, but what will this do to my reputation?
As an aside, even though it doesn't appear on the (winning) soundtrack, isn't there a clip of Reelin' on "Almost Famous"? I didn't see the movie, but I thought I remembered hearing it discussed on this forum. Also, when Cousin first came out, weren't there comments that Donald's voice didn't sound that good; thin, maybe? How perfectly ironic that it should win. No doubt that he meant to do that!
I'm off on a vacation day to play with a new computer, so I'll have to wait for tomorrow to gauge the reactions at work. Should be an interesting day.
Thanks guys, for appreciating your fans. You've earned the appreciation though, believe it!
Everybody--enjoy the Danshine out there today!
Name:
The truth
will set you free
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:11:16
Comments:
If the concept of the 2vN album was really D&W vs. Nature, guess what? Nature lost. Congrats D&W! Can't wait for the next one.
Name:
angel
will you still have a song to sing
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 06:11:07
Comments:
Don't miss the Official Dan Page! Web Drone
must have worked all night.... :-)
Name:
ebgold
pissed off stock traders
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 05:57:29
Comments:
I'm hearing lots of angry grumbling at work that
"Steely Dan" won all those awards.
They don't know what they're missing.
Name:
Q
Down in Tampa........
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 05:54:05
Comments:
You know what this means for Don and
Walt.......................
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You don't need us, or the Gramms to tell you deserve it - but it's nice to be
embraced by the Establishment once in a while - just don't ever embrace the Establishment!!!!!
Q
Name:
snakehips
i'm so excited i can barely cope
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 05:49:33
Comments:
BRAVO!!!!!!!
Congratulations Donald and Walter. You guys sooooo deserve it!
sh
it's perfection and grace
it's the smile on my face...
Name:
Not My Nancy
okayy....
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 05:49:12
Comments:
...I'm in
"The Best" ... whatever. The Grammys are so obviously NOT the best. The awards SAY they're for the best, but they're usually for the most controversial, the most promoted, the most zeitgeist-lich, or the most opportune combination of the above.
But I take the same stance as with th RRHOF: Anything that says Steely Dan is good, is good.
Nice to see all those scurvvy regulars and irregulars out to give a nod on the GB.
Okay, back to the slopes...
Name:
Big Fan
krouse@javanet.com
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 05:28:07
Comments:
Congrats, etc!!!
Guess what I listened to today coming into work - and I'm breaking the rules by playing it here too.
Even my kids were excited - they are big fans too!
So many links - Hoops had a bunch and see a few more here - here's one that you might enjoy - written by the rock critic - not a newswire - of the Hartford Courant and a very Dan favorable journalist: Steely 4, Shady 3 by Roger Catlin
http://www.ctnow.com/scripts/editorial.dll?eetype=Article&eeid=4045114&render=y&Table=&ck=&ver=2.5
I'm sure there will more analyses in the next day or so, but I'll sans computer for the next three days.
Biggest disapointments - no single from album, no video, no tour this year. Can't have it all - anyone else who wins four Grammys and gets inducted into the RRHOF in the same year would be out there cashing in - D&W have never done what everyone else does though. A great day for Dandom.
Name:
Gina
gvodegel@home.nl
Location: ~~~~!!!,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 05:23:14
Comments:
just the worm i wanted to see LOL
found something that is just way too funny at blab.com they have cartoons ...
i can't get anything decent done today ...
Banyan Tree Cartoonylooned Bow,
Gdot
Name:
||||||||
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 05:21:02
Comments:
Congratulations Walter and Donald!!!
tones - I believe it was George *Crumb*.
Name:
wormy
~ ~ ~ ~
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 05:14:17
Comments:
I got one and you want four...
lets redue that
We got four and you want one...
Utterly amazing to see the clean sweep
Hearty Congratulations Don and Walt
GAW GAW GAW GAW (Grammy Award Winner) nice ring to it
There is hope that the essence of taste once again reigns supremo
good to see alot of old names
here checking in on the gb as well
wormtom
Name:
Howard
@lunch
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 04:55:28
Comments:
Celebration!
It's not often that my 7am radio alarm wakes me up with a BBC radio 4 voice saying the words "Steely Dan" as part of the news headlines. I like this!!!
Great news - can't believe they got four! The Album of the Year is well deserved, as is the engineering award. Congrats D + W.
Looking through the award categories is pretty damn funny though. When I read "Best Pop Vocal Album", Steely Dan isn't the first name that comes to mind I have to admit. It's also funny to read so many news stories that say "Veteran *jazz-rock* Duo Steely Dan ... pick up award for Best *Pop* Vocal Performance ...".
Categories, categories, categories. Who needs 'em? There's only good music and bad music.
And great to see Joni get an award too, but really ... "Best Traditional Pop Vocal Album" for Joni's Both Sides Now? Did I wake up in a parallel universe? Joni's album is a treat, don't get me wrong, but it ain't traditional pop that's for sure!
Wait - Vince Mendoza picked up a "Best Instrumental Arrangement" award for his work on the album too ...? Oh boy, is *that* one well deserved! Cool.
Maybe the folks that dream up the award categories just have an overactive sense of humour? Next year, maybe we can look forward to:
"Best Canadian Female Vocal performance with an orchestra containing at least 3 trombones"
"Best non-European jazz-influenced performance by over-40s males that have a passion for R&B and beat literature"
Howard
Name:
Q
Down in Tampa........
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 04:40:26
Comments:
I ust want to make sure that this doesn't mean Don and Walt are going to become "presenters" in future award shows!
Yeh, we win!
Q
Name:
Clas
@ work
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 04:14:44
Comments:
Blaise! Welcome to my guestbook. It was an honour.
And Michael Leonhart, yeah, he wrote the charts. You'll see that I am right, in a couple of years.
dr Mu - too late, I was sleeping.
I was very tired last nite, but although, I sat up awake all night, thinking about those tempo-changes Steely Dan has in their songs.
Maybe it's theirfor they never made it big time?
Anyone?
C
PS/ CONGRATS PETE FOGEL!!! A GRAMMY, that aint bad uh? Congrats to you too Saint AL.
Name:
Blaise
beautiful day-ay-ay-ay
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 03:44:13
Comments:
Clas - Any downside to this story? What? Michael Leonhart, who "...wrote many of the charts for our last album" (dixit Becker in Birmingham" last summer, was not onstage. Or was he? Good question: besides Roger Nichols, who was behind Donald and Walter when they went onstage to accept for best album?
beautiful day...
Name:
Mr Chow
nickgail@fishinternet.com.au
Oz
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 03:43:53
Comments:
Hearty congratulations to Donald & Walter for the well earned recognition of 4 Grammy awards, especially album of the year which is a brilliant achievement for such quality music. I'll be glued to the box watching the ceremony when it plays over here tomorrow night.
This is just a bloody excellent result!
Cheers Guys.
Mr Chow.
Name:
Blaise
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 03:01:57
Comments:
Even Walter was shocked. You could tell he had to hold
back tears then he turned to Donald...
Roger Nichols was onstage and few others deservingly.
It's just more confirmation of the ffact that WE"RE NOT CRAZY and this
last album was amazing.
Congrats to Walter Becker, Donald Fagen and everyone involved in the process of
recording Two Against Nature.
After all, IT IS a beatifful day,
Don't let it get away...
Name:
San Francisco Knight
steelybuba@netscape.net
Location: London,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 02:35:17
Comments:
Addendum.
As a tactical ploy, D & F should play more popular TV gigs. Get the male-youth populus salivating after Victoria Cave.
That should do it! Boost album, video sales no problem!
I can't even watch my Plush gig video anymore. The site of VC going "oooh!" during Cousin Dupree makes me blush!
And I no she was waving at me at the Hammersmith gig!
Laters
SFK
Name:
San Francisco Knight
steelybubba@netscape.net
Location: London,
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 02:28:00
Comments:
Re. randy reichardt's post.
I couldn't agree with your sentiment more Randy. This whole business has taken the edge off what is a truly great 24 hours.
It would appear that Grammy's (sic) desperate urge to shake off their twatted old-fart image has allowed them to operate with predjudice, audio-tropic to the new as opposed to the music itself.
Whilst, I must confess, that I enjoy a good piece of rap, ney, even some of Em's work, music is music, and quality should rule.
Innovation, style, contreversy are not the gauges by which best album should be rated. These points alone are what warrant the 'best newcomer' type categories.
Best album should focus on a complete work. Given that 2vN is geometrically more musical than probably any other release in the past 5 years, how could it not win.
The class example of an accessible, harmonic, well executed, original, audible, multi-interperatable and just damned clever stuff.
Remember when the Doobies/Toto swept the boards back 20 years ago. This is exactly the reaction that the popular press had then. (Although in that case the Dobbies soon broke up and Toto never released anything or similar standard again!)
I can only shift uncomfortably in my seat as I imagine how D & W accept their award, knowing full well that Grammy no longer stands for what they do.
If it had been me, in my speach, I would have given the award to Eminem. How's that for a pop coup d'etat. I can just imagine all the Britney likes, running out to buy 2vN after that.
I am of course extremely glad for them both. To be honest, it is about fucking time.
Laters boys/gals
SFK
Name:
Slimmy Bendix
Where Did You Get Those Shoes?
Date: Thursday, February 22, 19101 at 02:25:36
Comments:
"I'm going down. Down, d