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Moray Eel, oh yeah, I remember that check, played a nice game of stickball with it as a matter of fact.
Hath not a Steely Dan Fan eyes?
Hath not Danny Boy eyes?
Yes- to Night By Night, St. Alphonso - & Gold Teeth I and/or II!(some of my personal favs)for the " '98" tour..., as far as the new album - let them get it out when they are "good and ready"- as they always have........ Q
Loved Saratoga, Hartford needed work. Anxiously awaiting the Lake Placid Tour.
Thou hath seen Danny Boy, and he is insane.
Yet can we not say Steely Dan Fans are insane?
This is the day of the expanding man (or was, as it's now Monday and I'm back at work):
I've had a great Sunday and I thought I'd share a Dan moment or two with you while you enjoy yours. I broke out some vinyl and listened to Aja, scratches 'n all (it's seen a lot of action over the years)... all very atmospheric, lying flat out on the floor with the fans working overtime in the heat, Brian Lara sticking it to the Aussies in the cricket on the telly (just for you Jamaican Dude), Good Queen R in the shower, baby having his siesta, and watching the sunlight through the trees play upon curtains to the rhythm of the Dan and the sound of Donald blowing his police whistle (what make? and, which force? Mr Fogel please), the beautiful drumming and Michael McDonald's dulcet tones in Peg... and then the shower waters stopped and it all became a little blurry... Hey! It's Summer here (let me enjoy it a little won't you - as you enjoyed yours, tours 'n all) and, it seems to me, it's always Summer when listening to the Dan. There's an essential sultry heat about their music and I can't think of any particularly wintry SD songs (any suggestions, apart from DF's Snowbound, etc of course). So if the rigors of Winter are getting to you a little, maybe put on a little Dan.
I like the rhythm, if not the quality, of listening to SD on vinyl. The notion of a side of music will, no doubt, disappear with the ages - though, to me, only through frequent playing does Aja have some sort of greater flow (emotional, sylistic?). Given D&W's fabled quests for perfection in each track, a greater thematic sequence would be tricky - though a while back someone made a good case for Gaucho having overall guiding concept and, of course Nightfly and Karma have their themes (though ironically I think Karma's other qualities suffer as a result) and 11ToW has a distinctly autobiographical feel to it. So, where this is leading? Well, what chance a SD concept album next up? Did the three new tracks fit into a pattern? Anyone?
Anyway, have a great day - upon the hill, under the banyan tree, at Rudy's, tied to the mast(!) - wherever you are. As the sun goes down on these suburban streets and the evening breeze plays through the gum trees (and hey 'Body Heat's' on (again) tonight)...
This brother is free,
I'll be what I want to be
Richard&kangaroos
G.K.Richard--I'm with you, mon.
Steely Dan Fans, now thou hast no hope of heaven.
What will you do now? For I can tell you, you'll be cursed with bell, book and candle.
Brubeck cooked!!!! And ues Joe, he did play "Blue Rondo a la Turk"
The show blew me away!
later
fez
Okay? Anyone have a clue about what "Wet Side Story" is about? Is it about food? A restaurant? What the heck is Steamer Heaven? Help!
Bodacious Cowgirl: Count me in for Brubeck/Metheny et. al.! Mind if I tag along? Besides, it'll give me something else to brag to Murtha about. I've seen Metheny only once before.
Good King Richard: I, too, listened to Aja yesterday--cranked, whilst spending my day just cruisin around in my cool rollin bubble. Great stuff for a balmy day with the top down. Pehhhhhhhhhhhhggggggg....
Major: Awesome! But please don't upload them to the net: someone might mistake me for a keyboard player. While setting up in my studio yesterday, my keyboard stand gave way, sending all 88 weighted keys crashing to the floor, driving a metal locking piece into the base of my board leaving a gash 4 inches across. It missed my neck by inches. Thank the Donald-God it still works. That was a close one.
"Throw out the hardware..."
Lucky: Hard to imagine what is funnier -- watching you trip and fall into your keyboard, affectionately referred to as the "Fall of 96", or what you described above. Thanks, indeed, to the Donald-God. Thanks also to you for the Beck's cans.
What's up with Wawa?? In my last three visits to the convenience store chain, I've heard "Ruby Baby" (in Hatboro, Pa.) and today I heard "Goodbye Look" (Mt. Laurel, NJ). Great coffee, even greater tunes. I drank an extra "Big Gulp" while waiting for the song to end.
"....a skinny man with two tone shoes...."
maj.
Webdrone: Looks good... one assumes you're receiving some sort of compensation for your efforts... Not everybody equates sarcasm with Walter... I tend to see more of a combination of cynicism and wit in Walters writings... its just my 2 cents, for what its worth...
My comment regarding the pulse of the guestbook was meant to be a concise way of saying that those of us who frequent this site reside in the tail of a somewhat bell-shaped curve representing a graphical rendering of the spectrum of SD fans, from fanatics (for lack of a better word at the moment) like most of us to those that don't like our boyz... In other words, we are the tip of an iceberg! Myself, if I owned a studio and had the artistic talents that our boyz had, then I'd always have something cookin'... I'd try to balance artistic productivity (driven by demand) with maintaining my own sanity (i.e. do whatever I damn well please).... I guess my point is that we may be our boyz least biased (as biased as we are) conduit to the masses without pro pollsters...
BTW, we all know that you owe your very existence in the capacity of SDWD to us...
Well, just thought I'd check in with the gang again and tell everyone that I now have in my collection the Gaucho Out-takes and all (I think all) of Fagen's B-sides, the trans-island skywy bass/drum/vocal mix, plus YGT II by Herbie HAncock.
Anything I should be looking out for with these tunes?
More to come....
Ben
good king richard--lp's, right on. without that sense of two-sidedness inherent in lp's, we now have these discs wherein (usually, anyway) the songs get progressively worse and worse as you track through.
besides, with cd's you end up starting over again every time you listen. so if you stop in the middle, the next time you pick the album up, it's back to song one. i have cd's where the last couple of songs haven't seen the light of day in years. at least with cassette tapes, you generally start up again where you left off.
i guess that's what the 'random' function on the cd player is for, but that doesn't exactly lend itself to the 'flow' of the cd either, does it?
lp's broke it up a bit, so often some of the best songs were right in the middle, starting off the b-side. i still love the whole idea of listening to 'the second song on side b,' or 'the last song on the a-side.'
lp friday, anyone?
peace,
rabbit
rabbit: you're sooo right!... especially 'the second song on side b'... and after a brief discussion here at work, we decided that the padding used to be the last track on side a and the second last on side b... which just goes to show what great and consistent albums D&W have turned out. Sorry I can't make lp friday, gotta mind the baby while the missus goes to the movies, but will check out a few sides tonight right after '90210' (required viewing... just love Donna's fashion sense, David's hipness and how Brandon gets to snog a different woman each week... they do, however, need more Dan music)
Rchard&kangaroos
Who buzzeth in my ears I am a spirit?
Be I a devil, yet God may pity me-
Yea, God will pity me if I repent.
To Ben: I'd like to check out your out-takes and b-sides... besides that (no pun intended) we need to set up a jam... I saw a band from St Louis at the Jazzhaus a week ago Saturday called "Sky Bop Fly"... they played a midwesternized acid jazz/funk/hip-hop/rap... pretty good stuff!! What friends/instrumentation can you contribute to a jam? I can provide bass and 2 killer guitarists.... maybe a drummer... P.A. and maybe a site... Reply to my real address...
Lonnie & Jonnie: Thanks for the Herman CD pointer. Given that I am in London, UK though, might be a bit tricky...
Perhaps someone could let me know the name of said CD. Maybe, I could track it down in a specialist store...
Moray Eel: I quite agree...
Ummm. My new hi-fi is great. YGT2 swings through and KC does the business now on a major scale. God bless Tannoy...
My wife still does not understand. Every time I put on AIA, RS or whatever, she says "don't you know every bar of this CD" so I reply, "yes, I do know each and every song at a macro level. I am now trying to appreciate every rest"... -kinda musical joke-
Anyone got the new Phil Woods CD yet. I would like an opinion before I buy. CDs are fucking expensive over here...
I must step off the platform now...
laters pretzel amoebas
Jimmy
Rudy: When will the kitchen be open again? Fr a real Mar...... Tobasco rules.
One of the thing Donald and Walter do best is the twisting of rhythmic
phrases, making the “normal” seem unexpected, and the unexpected seem
normal. “Keyboard” Magazine did a little article some time ago using “Tomorrow’s
Girl’s” as an example of how Donald can sublimely drop two measures
and make it absolutely seamless. I find an even more interesting example in “Time
Out Of Mind”...
So many pop, and even jazz tunes, are built on powers of two that sections
built on 2, 4, 8, 16...etc. bars are considered "normal." At first
glance, TOOM seems to adhere to this, yet closer inspection shows lots of
curves. I suppose the tip-off should have been the intro. Ignoring the 3/8
pickup on toms and hat, B&F start the song with a 1 measure drum intro. Not
two, not four, but one. Only a prelude to the quirks that follow...
Now we get to the basic vamp, a syncopated little 4 bar comp that
effectively ignores "1", and locks to "1&". While the
phrase itself is the "standard" 4 bars, Donald pulls a fast one on us
with the vocals. It's not unusual to have a few "pickup" notes that
intro a melodic episode (like the first 6 notes of "Reelin...") but
the pickup phrase (“Son, you better be...”) occurs in bar one
of the four bar phrase, throwing us off balance as the start of the phrase now
seems to be in measure two. Just to keep it interesting, this
wierdness repeats only once before the B&F throw us another curve, and it’s
not one, not two, not even three, but four rhythmic twists! (Now how
much would you pay?) Not only are the phrases trimmed to two bars (twist 1)
while retaining the “pickup notes in measure one” thang, but the
chords are now repeating only the last two measures of the original phrase
(twist 2). Now the song seems to be wrapped up in some sort of demented game of
catch-up with itself. Adding to the starboard list, these phrases are repeated
three times (twist 3) before tossing in an extra measure (twist 4) which
contains, of all things, the pickup notes to the next two bar phrase which is at
this point entirely baffling. (Who’d have expected the usual?) Again a two
bar phrase is repeated 3 times before we appear to get some sort of resolution
as the vocals break into the “Time Out Of Mind...” refrain. Finally,
it seems, all is right with the world. Wait! There’s that damn pick-up (“I
am holding a...”) in measure one of the second verse. What is going on here!!! If we count out the apparent 4 bar phrases starting
from the beginning (again ignoring the 3/8) everything seems cool if
we accept the odd vocal phrasing. Cool, that is, until we get to the part about
chasing the dragon, where we find ourselves chasing our tails having
mysteriously picked up a measure relative to the vocals. Don’t worry about
it. Everything returns to its’ original state by the time we start the
second verse. (Notice I didn’t say “returns to normal”.)
Our second option is to use the vocal intro (“Son, you better be...”)
as a pickup, and measure our four bar phrases from there. This seems much nicer
(you have to ignore the instrumental intro but, hey, peace of mind has a price)
until we get to the dragon (draggin’?) part where now we’re either two
measures early, or two measures late. None of which matters because by the time
we get to the second verse we’re all sync’d up again. My suspicion is
we could start counting someplace in “Gaucho” and things would still
collapse and revive themselves.
At this point I am absolutely terrified to start work on the instrumental
section. There are monsters in those measures, I’m sure.
I can’t help wondering if the title of the song doesn’t somehow
allude to this. Could “out of mind” be an allusion to “insane”?
This would give us “Time Insane” and then it’s not a far stretch
to “Rhythmic Insanity.” Brubeck used this type of punning during his
metric experimentations (“Unsquare Dance”, “Take Five”,
etc.) and, of course, he shows up in Donald’s next release.
Edd Edd: thanks. that's worth about ten music lessons. copy and paste.
maj.
Edd: I agree with your enlightened take on the title of TOM. And with their lyrics about smoking heroin/opium. The song is just brilliant, bloody brilliant.
Edd: that one's a keeper... will make for a fine musical adventure this evening. (MD: copy, paste, and don't forget PRINT...)
LH: ouch! but I won't ask why/how it "narrowly missed [your] neck" hope all's well in music-land.
Maxine
wow, edd, my head is about to explode.
amanda
SDWD: Do you have any "New Content" to put on the website? Some sound clips of demos from the new album or 11 tracks or "Kulee Baba" would be cool. U2 did that with their new album, released 2 "so called bootlegs" on the web for "Discotech" and another one. Thanks and keep on truckin'....
Way to go Edd. No wonder they drove Mork Knopfler nuts.
Lucky--No, I wouldn't mind, except much to my chagrin, I'm not
going. Enjoy if you go, and tell us about it!
Edd--definitely one to print!!!
Edd: Yowie. The Loyal Fandom salutes you.
edd--'demented game of catch-up with itself'? yeah........... i'll be sitting down with that one tonight. thanks man.
by the way, are you posting from your 'tour of the southland'? i'm getting some weird interactions with my netscape nav'. some of your letters are turning into chinese characters. (don't ask.........) i've seen that with clas and some other international posts, but never yours before.........
peace,
rabbit
Edd: Thank you for putting into words what my ears have known all these years!
Edd: kudos on your thoughtful essay. Makes wading through the rest of muck worth the trip. I feel certain you are right--there are "monsters" in the measures comprising the instrumental portion of the tune. Berklee, I am told, at one time offerred a composition class based on the writing of Steely Dan. It's no mystery why.
For years I have been trying to explain to people why Steely Dan is special. Edd....I've printed out your essay because it conceisly states what I have been fumbling through. Great Job!
Thanks
DCB
Edd,
Your "Time Out Of Mind" dissection could not have been more, well,
timely. As a result of the recent discussion about the master of time signature
experimentation himself, Dave Brubeck - (brought on by Fezboy's
fortuitous weekend encounter) - I went back and re-read the liner notes
from Brubeck's momentous "Time Out" LP. There is a rather enlightened
discussion of each and every tune with regard to their unique
timing pattern and what is significant about each.
Before Brubeck, most of jszz was stuck in basic 4/4 time. Although
jazz was both harmonically and melodically sophisticated, it was
relatively backward rythmically. Some exceptions being the work
of Max Roach and a few others. The 4/4 time having been derived from
jazz's roots in marching band music and the blues.
I think it's pretty safe to say that Don+Walt are not only "mad
about Brubeck", but have applied a good deal of Brubeck's ground
work in advanced time signatures to their own material. Maybe
"Time Out" (Of Mind) is their tip of the hat to Brubeck's "Time
Out"...
Thanks for the erudite post Edd. It was much good food for thought...
Joe
P.S. Fezzy, any mention of other East Coast Brubeck appearances?
Joe: Brubeck went straight to Europe to do a tour and said he would be back in time for a spingtime tour of the East Coast - sounds promising! If you get a chance, definitely check him out.
fez
New band Super Furry Animals sample Show Biz Kids! "show business kids making movies of themselves you know they don't give a fuck about anybody else." Apparently they said (they sample it 50 times) "Saying fuck 50 times isn't big or clever, but sampling Steely Dan certainly is." Plus their album is called Fuzzy Logic. The legacy lives on, n'est pas?
Just a note for this board. I know The Bar Bat took a bit of abuse earlier this year on this guestbook but I have some positive feedback for those who are interested. Because of the postings here, on my last trip to NY city from the frozen tundra I went to TBB. I lucked out. Cornelius Bumpus was playing with his club act. The band put on a first class show. I also met Pete Fogel out of sheer coincidence and we might be bringing Cornelius to Canada. I wanted to pass on my thanks to the contributors to this guestbook as you lead me to this opportunity to hear Cornelius and company live!! Also thanks to Cornelius (if you read this page)for your work. BTW, who was the female lead. Absoloutley UNBELIEVEABLE!!!.
To Pete Fogel,
Nice meeting you. Nothing new on the Toronto gig front however I'll look into it again.
To The Bar Bat:
Thanks for a great night!!
Just a note for this board. I know The Bar Bat took a bit of abuse earlier this year on this guestbook but I have some positive feedback for those who are interested. Because of the postings here, on my last trip to NY city from the frozen tundra I went to TBB. I lucked out. Cornelius Bumpus was playing with his club act. The band put on a first class show. I also met Pete Fogel out of sheer coincidence and we might be bringing Cornelius to Canada. I wanted to pass on my thanks to the contributors to this guestbook as you lead me to this opportunity to hear Cornelius and company live!! Also thanks to Cornelius (if you read this page)for your work. BTW, who was the female lead. Absoloutley UNBELIEVEABLE!!!.
To Pete Fogel,
Nice meeting you. Nothing new on the Toronto gig front however I'll look into it again.
To The Bar Bat:
Thanks for a great night!!
Ladies and Gentlemen, a drum roll please...
Steely Dan has a featured "corner" in this month's Columbia House CD
Club selection catalog, on page 15. Check it out! This is the first
time I'm aware that the boys have gotten this lofty honor from the
nation's premier music buying ponzi scheme. They've had a few choice
offerings featured in the past, but this time each of their studio
albums, AIA, the expanded Gold album and the Citizen boxed set are all
included, as well as a picture of the dynamic duo in what appears to
be good spirits.
Congratulations Don & Walt! Forget the numerous awards, gold records,
etc. This event proves you really have arrived in show business.
Adios, gauchos amigos!
O thou bewitching fiend, 'twas thy temptation hath robbed me of eternal hapiness.
Boing
Boing
Hello guys. I'm off for a while, whilst I trip to Singapore. I'll be back though in a few days!!!!!
Laters
pretzels at home still!
Sittin' and Listenin': we thought Wet Side Story might have something to do with photography, because a darkroom is typically divided into a "dry side" (where the printing is done) and a "wet side" (where the chemical processing is done). Hmmm....
JoeM:
Great analogy with Dave Brubeck's TIME OUT. It's probably the gold dard for rhythmic experimentation. In my favorite, Three to
Get Ready, there is an initial exposition of 12 bars in 3/4. Then the theme is repeated and the song goes from 3 bars of 3/4 to 3 bars of 2/2 (or is it 1 and 1/2 bars of 4/4?) This is repeated 3 times. It gets a bit more complicated after that for me, but it's way cool.
I thought that one of the musicians out there might be able to explain another surprise. The 2 chords which summon Bob
Sheppard's sax solo after the 2nd verse of Book of Liars. It seems to come way out of left field but it's perfect. I was absolutely stunned the first time I heard it (and really every time)
EDD COTE!: Your excellent observations set me to pondering some of w+d's other quirky musical habits. One of my favorites is in "I Got The News". It's based in C, but at the end of the first verse and chorus, for a grand total of 1 bar, the key temporarily goes to D and we hear Dmaj7, Ab7, and Gmaj7. Normally, a 5ma7 chord doesn't lead to a 1dominant chord, but it sure does in this tune! Maybe since they are in D momentarily, and the Gmaj7 is actually the 4maj7 of that key, might be the reason our ears get fooled into thinking its really a 4 chord instead of a 5. Or, are we still in C, and we're hearing a version of 2(7)-5(7)? (In this case, 2-#5-5? Except the first and third chords are Maj7 and the second one is Dominant7, keeping F# constant as the top note of all three chords! This stuff keeps me awake at night and we're talking one bar here.
BTW: The drummer on I Got The News was Ed Greene. He lives here in Nashville now and a guitar player friend of mine is involved in some recording with him. I couldn't resist; I had my friend get his autograph. It says: " TO COX, HERES TO A GROOVE! ED GREENE"
Very cool...
Re: Wet Side -- as in the real world, wetware (a term PDS types
use to describe for eg the human brain),
as contrasted with hardware and software. It's a story about a computer nerd who contemplates stepping out of the safe world of
virtual (computer) interaction and jumping to the Wet Side ("where it's way
complex; hacking through all the harsh effects").
like that.
of Wet Side Story. Let see Computer nerd takes a break from some heavy duty geeking? Goes to get some food at a place called "Steamer Heaven"? Has a hard time dealing with the people who work in the place? Sits in a corner with his food and a book and doesn't want to be bothered? "Covers his eyes with his hands/'Cause everyone knows that it's scary out there when you jump to the Wet Side/Where it's cold or it's loud or it's screaming with light/Where it's way complex, hacking through all the harsh effects". Message, Spock?
wetware
/wet'weir/ /n./ [prob. from the novels of Rudy Rucker] 1. The human nervous system, as opposed
to computer hardware or software. "Wetware has 7 plus or minus 2 temporary registers." 2.
Human beings (programmers, operators, administrators) attached to a computer system, as
opposed to the system's hardware or software. See liveware, meatware.
"Wetware has 7 plus or minus 2 temporary registers" = human short term memory. This is a reference to Miller's (a cognitive psychologist) research
on "chunking": We can remember a long strings of digits for eg if we "chunk" them into pairs or triplets. And seven (plus or minus 2) is the
average number of "information chunks" we can manage to hold in
short-term memory.
Boy am I bored today or what.
i'm bored too. and i don't have anything useful to say. but i figured i'd post anyway.
amanda
I'm bored also. This is a picture of my cat.
She didn't like being scanned... Edd
Oh, yeah. Well.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Yep.
Here I am.
Just surfin' on o'er to to the, uh, SD GBook.
Uh huh.
Yep. That's what I'm doin'
Yepper.
Good to see ya.
OK Now.
So how 'bout those Knicks?
da Bulls are a goin' down this year...
Edd: See what you've done? Nobody can follow up your masterwork. Plus, thanks for sharing Aja with us. But I hope that's not taken as an open invitation for all to share their photos as well.
Thanks to all Wet Side Story interpreters -- I like that thread.
See you at the Sprangle. . .
Hey Edd,
Is it just my monitor, or is that cat Pink?
rubbing my eyes,
mWorld
Can't you just feel a song coming on? Like, "Cat Too Flat"?
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
Robert A. Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long
Although no doubt Bucky Fuller used the line, too. .
And happy birthday, da! Don't forget to lean on Dean!
thanks, though my birthday was in november. : ) due to the long-term absence of the official site, the letter didn't get posted till now. but anyway, a reply will follow, sometime. : )
amanda
Haitian Divorce Video!! DO IT!!! Use poise, tact and reason and simply squeeze them...
mW--The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think, oh, by
the way, which one's Pink?
Bored as well, but the cat looks white on my monitor,
BC
Whoa, one very boring day in Dandom...Not even so much as a hint of a flame war...I wish I could wake Kinky up from that nap which by now is rivalling Rip Van Winkle...Somebody break out a sewing kit, and find a new thread...
Ruby, what's your second favorite song by the D? If you were to choose a song by the D that you would not want them to perform, what song would that be and why? I personally would not want to hear them perform "When I was Mary's man"...how about you?
I got a Steely Dan T-shirt,
Paul C.
So who gets to play 'Josie' on NPR? I heard it tonight on
Marketplace. It wasn't LK . More like ALegg.
Tim: Thanks for the photos (Wembley).
Sleep Sleep.
San Francisco Knight-- I finally found the Web address of that Acoustic Sounds place. It's http://www.btown.com. Their e-mail is asounds@aol.com.
Everyone is very quiet lately. Has anyone heard the songs "American Lovers" or "Jones", both written by DF & WB?
It's looking like a ghostbook again. Its getting a little too spooky for my liking. I can't think of any games to share, except thinking of dumb Steely Dan sequel songs like Your Gold Teeth III, The Third Arrangement, Do It Again Again, Razor Man, Haitian Remarriage, I think you get the picture. Well, I'm trying. Also, a question, was or wasn't Larry Carlton a member of The Crusaders?
To Fronteir, who heard Goodbye Look at the convenience store.
I heard a MUZAK version of Home At Last in the Food Lion Lion the other day in Newport News , VA.
I was so impressed, (It was actually a pretty good version with the horns faithful to the SD version), I bought some extra groceries.
I also hear Green Flower Street as a background for advertisements on the radio a lot.
It hurts a little , though, when they play the SD originals on the elevator.
To Fronteir, who heard Goodbye Look at the convenience store.
I heard a MUZAK version of Home At Last in the Food Lion Lion the other day in Newport News , VA.
I was so impressed, (It was actually a pretty good version with the horns faithful to the SD version), I bought some extra groceries.
I also hear Green Flower Street as a background for advertisements on the radio a lot.
It hurts a little , though, when they play the SD originals on the elevator.
Post twice, rap with your cane...
feels nice...!
i heard a muzak version of igy once at a restaurant... i didn't know it wasn't the original until the vocal came in and it was a soprano sax.
amanda
Larry
Carlton did indeed play with The Crusaders.
Edd
Lonnie & Jonnie: Thanks for the addresses! I will mail appropriate enquiry!
Frozen precipitor: you made me laugh very much!!! Razor Man! Ha ha!!
I have just come back from Singapore!!!!!!!! Hot hot hot and wet! Still I like it out there!!!
Edd Cote: Yes, I have 'Those Southern Nights' by the Cs. Larry does a great pick on mama told me so. I am a bit of a Carlton person actually. But he is a bit of a manic christian now. Still, he did cop a bad shot from some hoodlum who still remains at large, so he does have a lot to be thankful for.
Re my new Tannoy monitors, the Dan just keep getting better and better!!!!
Laters pretzel ovens
Finally caught up. There are some really misinformed of just plain dreamers posting on this page. Face it the Bulls are a lock. DEAL WITH IT. The Knicks, now that is really funny. If it wasn't for a bad call they would not have even beaten the Jordanless Bulls four years ago. Not that I'm upset, The Knicks made fine Rocket foder. The only question for the playoffs if can the Bulls do it in 15 straight.
The record is now straight.
DCB
"Bull!"
DeeConHead: "The Bulls are a lock".
Yeah. sure.
Just like taking the Packers WITH the points was a sure win. (Pats win WITH the push.)
Air Jordan's got too much air in his 'ead, he's too busy worryin' about what promotion he'll do next, he'll get sick of Rodman and/or Rodman will do something Rodman-esque before the season's over. The safe bet is to bet against the Bulls.
they will go down in flames via, yes, the "coached-by-a-34-year-old-PatRiley-protege" Van Gundy Knicks.
And New York will Rule Once Again.
(The announcer says, "The Yankees Win, Theeeeeeee Yankees Win.")
NOW your record is straight.
Da Bulls are full of it. See ya.
YGK:
Shut the fuck up! What is this, the NY Knicks guestbook? Take it
the fuck off line!
Ho, DeeConBluz!! Do you rise when the sun goes down? Do you cover every game in town? ~~ I predict if they get the first 9, the last 6 will be cake.
PPPaulCCC: You're a curious beast, but I'll answer your querries: My 2nd favorite is Home At Last. Except I sing it, "he pours the smooth Retsina, he keeps me safe & warm; it's just the calm before the storm" So...here I remain - tied to the mast. BTW: Retsina is anything but smooth!
What wouldn't I like to hear them do live? I guess, King of the World, because I have my doubts they could pull it off the same way as in the studio. But who know? (Edd, probably!) I would love to hear them do When I Was Mary's Man! Even they, themselves have probably not heard them do When I Was Mary's Man. They could do it right after Rose Darling.
So...you've witnessed some scortching @ this site and it turned you on? Tell me, do you participate or just like to watch?
RubyBaby
lapin - maintiens ton oreille sur la terre, encore? (pardon mon francais - c'est comme une vache espagnol, oui?)
Ruby Baby!!!
A true beliver!!
YGK life must be nice living in a dream world....Rodman or no Rodman the Bulls bring home the fifth.
BTW who do you think can stop them....The 80's all stars in Houston?
Brick O'Neal and the Lakers??
Ain't NOTHING in the East
Come June the apologies shall be long and sincere.
DCB
BCGirl, That's some couplet, but I must ask to borrow your sense of context as I am still unable to reach the crux of the situation...
mW
Announcer:
"...meanwhile, back In Medford, NJ..."
(we hear the faint sound of the wind, the camera trolleys up a darkened staircase to a small room with a glowing computer monitor, but no user. Hanging askew off the vacant chair in front of the monitor is a well-worn sweatshirt that reads simply "Fuck Off, I'm The Major". The camera then begins to close the distance to the monitor and we see that someone has written ON the screen with what appears to be black magic marker. The words are shaky, but legible: "Eschew Obfuscation" ...then, with a quick turn the camera reveals the source of the wind - the room's window is full open...resting under the sill is an antique porcelain sink, and a twisted 3-iron...
Announcer: "...it seems the Major must have stepped out.."
Ruby: anyone who heard SD do King of the World live on their '74 tour would probably say it was "cookin'" and maybe even better than the album version. We think some of their tunes sound better when reworked for live performance, not just recreating the original.
Marv,
1) get some real hair.
2) take a chill pill.
3) develop a deeper vocabulary that excludes the word 'fuck'.
4) practice principled acts of self-interest and ruthless logic.
5) go jump off 30 Rock...
Lonnie 'n Johnny: exactly, although, for me, it's not a matter of one sounding 'better' than the other. I enjoy hearing how they've reinterpreted their songs...how they've chosen to present them in a form which is sometimes very different from their studio versions.
King Of The World from the '74 tour is way cool...just listened to it Saturday, as a matter of fact...
EDD; Did you notice at Pearl Of The Quarter; after the C-chord they go out of roles and plays a G, and then... surprise, surprise, that follows of a F. And breaking the roles again they go down to Emi...
Wow!
Did they ever get to play Night by Night? I think that would make a smokin' showopener as would King of the World. They both could be reworked in so many ways. Did The Nightfly ever get an airing on the last couple of tours?
RUDY; I looked at your aquarellpaintings again. I must say they are GOOD. I think painting with Aqua is the hardest thing to do (except trying to read Edīs long post above). You canīt change anything after. I also like you graphics, your use with typefaces and so. Right on man!
Well kids, gotta work And a speciall little kyss to Ruby.
The second story man
I knew you'd hear me honking! (I wrapped it in a hug)
(tucking kyss into pocket)
bye!
"King Of The World" is one of my faves from D&W's early catalog, I'd love to hear it live.
Given that the only indication of a synth being integrated into the current show is Donald's Lynx (which must be MIDI'd to something, but damned if I know what), it would be all but impossible to reproduce that gorgeous portomento synth solo. A rework is always possible, but that solo is just so much a signature of the tune...
Edd
P.S. If anyone has a 4-op FM synth (DX-21, 27, 100, TX81Z, not fb01) and wants a pretty good patch for that solo, I can provide the sysex...
mW--Sorry to befuddle you, there is no meaning. I cut out of work
early for an afternoon out with my galpals, which turned into a very
late evening. Suffice it to say, I consumed more than my fair share
of Absolut. When reading your post after I finally made it home, that song came to mind. Did you get alot of snow? We got about 5", but
it's melting, thank God!
I recently questioned my bud at ticketbastard re: any word on the
boys touring this summer, but there's no info yet. KOTW would be a
fantastic opener!
Down at the bottom of your wine dog sea... has anyone of you middleclass kids ever been to the bottom? You haveīnt, theirfor you canīt hear the pain and the agony in Walters best song. You drive in daddys cars and eat applepie and think you know anything about Steely Dan. You donīt. You donīt understand shit. And worst of all, you think TopGun is the best movie ever made.
Edd Cote talks about nanos here and delay here but I think he never listen to the music, or the lyrics. Join the Navy!
No More Blues
On my 50th birthday, recently, I dreamed the following infomercial:
ELEVATOR MUSIC presents Steely Dan for really old people,Volume 1. They got the house in Clearwater,they got the wrinkly bodies, they got the Lawrence Welk teashirts, and for the coup de gout...they've now got SD for the geriatric.
You'll hear:
YOUR FALSE TEETH ("Do you take out your false teeth? Do you sleep while they soak?)
HEY NINETY ("Skate a little slower now.")
PEARL BUCK OF THE QUARTER ("I took my walker down the miracle mile.")
BAD SLIPPERS ("Five hairs and I can hardly stand or hear.")
AGE YA' ("Over the hill, they think I'm okay.")
and all your other favorites:
DO WHAT AGAIN? , CHANGE OF DEPENDS , TIME OUT OF BED
Order now. Not available in stores
On my 50th birthday, recently, I dreamed the following infomercial:
ELEVATOR MUSIC presents Steely Dan for really old people,Volume 1. They got the house in Clearwater,they got the wrinkly bodies, they got the Lawrence Welk teashirts, and for the coup de gout...they've now got SD for the geriatric.
You'll hear:
YOUR FALSE TEETH ("Do you take out your false teeth? Do you sleep while they soak?)
HEY NINETY ("Skate a little slower now.")
PEARL BUCK OF THE QUARTER ("I took my walker down the miracle mile.")
BAD SLIPPERS ("Five hairs and I can hardly stand or hear.")
AGE YA' ("Over the hill, they think I'm okay.")
and all your other favorites:
DO WHAT AGAIN? , CHANGE OF DEPENDS , TIME OUT OF BED
Order now. Not available in stores
I also had this weird dream, the kids grew up and became 40. And still, they didīnt understand a shit.
"I guess you never gonna let her down..."
RubyBaby; do speak french? I always believed it was class over you.
Paris in springtime?
On the sunny side of the sea,
Blue Swede Shoes
Clas: hey cool down baby...Not all of us drive our dad's car. My wife and I don't even have a car. And I don't like applepie, but I do listen to lyrics and dig the sound...
There has been a bit too much disection going on over the past few days. Leave the tunes alone. Some of us dig the Dan purely through the entire effect, not just two measures of rhodes intro or one dot minim rest, syncopated toms and so on. Mind you, Erskines thirds on the snare during the second bridge of 3WM on AIA were fucking incredible. There is way too much in each song to break down. Relax guys and feel it through.
Roy Scam: That was funny. My ribs really ache.
I work at a really shit outfit. Anyone no what I mean????
Laters pretzel chums
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JulianMoseley
"Five hairs and I can hardly stand or hear..."
I'm rolling!
"I can't hear anyone talking, and my arteries are hard,
I drive 20 mph on Magnolia Boulevard.
Well, I'm nearly insane
And I'd laugh but I'm in too much pain
And I'm sooooo alone
Since they put me in the nursing home..."
Other suggestions...
"Where is the couch, old amigo"
"Hey 1919"
"Babble on, Sisters, shaking!"
"My Old Tool"
Edd
Julian Mosely: I checked out your page and there were a few mistakes (I was at the show you speak of) Dennis Chambers played drums, not Erskine and the band did not play Black Cow, that was only played in '96. I know it sounds stupid, but had to do it.
fez
Holy f_ck!
"My Old Tool", "Bad Slippers"?!?!?
Edd, Roy... You guys are killin' me!
Jon, Got 'em... Thanks again.
Hello, brothers & sisters. Haven't been around much lately, but after reading the last couple weeks' postings, I think EddCote deserves some kind of award. I can't wait to go home to listen to TOOM.
I don't know the lyrics to Wet Side Story well enough to know whether this makes sense, but (dirty old man that I am) I always made a connection to "the wet spot," as in, "He's a thoughtful lover--he always sleeps on the wet side." I like the wetware allusion too.
Back to lurk...
Following Edds damn funny senile lyrics, I thought that I'd jump on the bandwagon...
here goes...
Old Cow
Shoes with corners, one glass eye
I am always moody, wear a crap bow tie
Faaake bow tie!
With a whining grimace (pronounced grimaice)
And an oblong face!
At the counter, ..... I'll have to come up with something tomorrow!
Byesee bye!
Roy.Scam! I was laughing so hard I...and I don't wear depends(yet!)
Slipped twice-hand me that cane
Here@the western wing,
Ruby
Oooowwww! my ribs!
Nothing like beating a dead horse:
IGGY SCHWARTZ ...get into that wheelchair while there's time, the i.v. is in...
NURSING HOME AT LAST ...she serves the milk of magnesia...so long, I'v got to go again...
FEET TOO FLAT ...our women are slung down low to the ground... (Hey! didn't have to alter those!)
CLAS: Hey,Mr.Blue Sky!! Didn't I tell you to think warm, sunny thoughts? Do I have to come over there and throw an apple pie in your face? Don't worry - I'll load it up with whipped cream.
I am now needing to hear the 1974 live version of King of the World. Does anyone have it, wanna share it? please?
Ruby
ruby baby...post your email address and maybe, just maybe, someone can help you with your request...
What a lame bunch you are. You're back on that parody shit again. Sad. Very sad. You probably think you're clever, too. Losers.
...and of course, for those fans whose existance depends on some sort of life support there's "Start That Heartbeat Over Again".
Edd
Rainmaker: Donald performed "Nightfly" at a couple of the unannounced NYC club dates with Jimmy Vivino several years back, but not since he and Walter re-united. Maybe Walter doesn't like the song.
Yes! I have a yearning for the '74 King of the World also... Somebody PLEEEEEASE help me!!! The above address is for real...
confirming Fezzy's take on St. Pete gig- Chambers,yes-Black Cow,no(unfortunately-it would have been interesting to here Zingg's efforts on BK)- even better than the show were the rehearsals!-open to all who bothered, Thundedome security were highly accomadating to fans. News Flash- my contacts @ MoFi say they are working to do 180gram vinyl 1/2 spds of the rest of the Dan catalog(even though it's all now in digitally remastered form)and are actively pursuing their quest- now that MCA has abandoned their audiophile vinyl effort(sans Who's Next 180g-has it's moments over other pressings,but overall not transcendant- like say the MCA Audiophile pressing of Gaucho-blows any other Dan pressing(in terms of sound "quality")of any album out!). Who knows - if the get Gary Katz, The Immortal, and Steve Hoffman(best mastering man in the business)together maybe there are some untapped nuances of brilliance remaining in some of the old material. And for those who don't know/remember what a turntable is anymore......... Kamakariad 32bit mapped gold CD is a must for any Dan.
Hey Fella, not so. Donald never performed Nightfly with Vivino, nor anyone else for that matter.
I was listening to Drew Zingg play the other night, and if you think he was good in '93, you ought to hear him now.
RubyBaby, I wonder how that kyss will look after it goes thru the wash in the pocket of your red blazer? Curious beast, indeed! As far as flame wars go, my formative Dan years were during college when I roomed with the professor of flamology...just listening to the Dan brings back such flaming memories! And yes, I got good at it.(like everyone else on this page gives a shit)
I do have a question for all of super technical, dissection freaks, don't you ever just listen to the Dan cause they're fun to listen to? I mean, criminy, you guys all must have Ph.D.'s in music, right?
And oh, Mr. Clas, you must use your English dictionary, and THEREFORE, your spelling might not suck so bad...
------------------------------------------
If you want to put a message to my heart
should be out in the mornin',
I'm gonna rise and shine and wake you up,
and move you without warning!
Call my name, I understand the reason for desire,
the band of gold I'll give to you,
will be the real fire!
Something in your kiss that lasts forever,
Burnin' in the heat for you,
I'll love you round the clock!
You get the best of what I got...
Not for you, Clas, I repeat, not for you...
If you want to put a message to my heart
should be out in the mornin', I'm gonna rise and shine and wake you up, and move you without
warning! Call my name, I understand the reason for desire, the band of gold I'll give to you, will be
the real fire! Something in your kiss that lasts forever, Burnin' in the heat for you, I'll love you round
the clock! You get the best of what I got...
What can I say? The Dan are the Man! When's the new album coming out?
Yo Tim! Read before you ask such a dumb question!
"I do have a question for all of super technical, dissection freaks, don't you ever just listen to the Dan cause they're fun to listen to? I mean, criminy, you guys all must have Ph.D.'s in music, right?"
What makes Steely Dan interesting for me is the fact they stand up to the disection. I find most pop music to be shallow and uninteresting aural pablum, whereas Steely Dan has some depth. (They're not alone in this aspect, but this forum is about them.)
You speak as if "super technical" and "disection" were somehow diametrically opposed to "fun." You're entitled to that opinion (if in fact it is your opinion), but I disagree. I find the two inextricably linked.
Music that makes me think *is* fun.
Edd
In case you wonder itīs alive and well, that little habbit that you left with me...
What kind of habbit can that be? Applepie?
Sorry Fogel, you're wrong. Donald DID perform "Nightfly". I saw it myself at the China Club on Broadway with Jimmy Vivino's band. It sounded really rough, the band had a hard time with it and Donald seemed disappointed after it was over. The background singers were good. Especially on the "WJAZ" part.
Dear "Q", we just checked the gold Kamakiriad CD we have and it's 20-bit, not 32-bit. Was there another gold CD that was 32-bit?
Fella: CONGRATULATIONS! You've officially Stumped The Fogel. Don't
walk, run to the steelydan.com web site and collect your non-goof related valuable prize, maybe.
And don't try to worm your way outta this one on some bogus half-truth, technicality or wild rationalization like you've been
known to pull on others Herr Fogel...
wow, a genuine fogel-stumper! i believe the correct prize would be one of those lithographs, petey... we know you still have them.... ; )
amanda
I can't believe the Fogel has been stumped. Can ANYone out there corroborate Fella's claim?
pppaulccc--gotta concur with edd there. as a fellow 'dissection freak,' i think that's one of the things that makes dan so cool to listen to for me--they do things outside of the traditional, boring pop format--things that are actually worth thinking about and trying to understand. and that means breaking it down, and trying to figure out *why* it sounds so cool.
on the other hand, another reason they are so brilliant is that they can be enjoyed on so many levels. they somehow manage to fit their incredibly complicated musical ideas so smoothly into that pop format, that sometimes it's difficult to notice how weird what they are playing actually is.
if you don't enjoy the 'musical analysis game,' just tune us out. but at least humor us sometimes, howabout? just smile and nod, smile and nod.................
'deacon blue' on the radio here at work. very cool.
now the *reason* that song sounds so cool, is..........
never mind, sorry.
peace,
rabbit
Yeah, You've got to watch that Fogelmeister. Walter sings the 4th line of each verse on Turn That Hearbeat Over Again.
Applause to the rabbit.
While I feel that those who can dissec just happen to know a bit more on a technical level, what you don't seem to understand is that it is FUN for some of us. No, you don't have to be in the musical anaylsis game to appreciate Steely Dan, however, those of us can analyze the music find DEEPER PROOF of their musical genius, and marvel in their mastery.
So Paul, chill out on that tip, or try to learn something...
YGK
Sorry to disappoint you all, but I just spoke to Jimmy Vivino at the Conan O'Brien Show, and I must say those lithos look damn good on my walls. I was at all the China Club shows, and have all the board tapes, and Justice, if you don't believe me, I guess I'll just have to release them all on cd, just like Kenny Vance ;)
Fogel: I apologize. You are correct. He did "Greenflower Street," not "Nightfly". I always get those two songs confused.
Fella:
Why?? Because the names are similar or because you are an idiot?
The
Go Fogel! -the man has "the goods" to back himself up-bravo Amigo!
To another fan in CA: Thanks for your very practical observation. (If I stay inside, I might live til Saturday)
CLAS: Good. Now is not the time to start breaking habits.
BTW - are you getting your mail?
rubybaby
that sucks. poster-grubbing.... nevermind. pete's got the posters fair and square this time, but i have a friend who's gotten screwed over a time or two with non-responses...
amanda
My, oh, my...
Edd and Rabbit, I see your point and your politeness is duly appreciated. Thank you.
I have some thoughts though. Music, left brain. Cognitive reasoning, right brain. But what about the spirit, the soul? An F-sharp or a chord, through a violin or a digitally enhanced, synthesized wingbeat of a hummingbird? The mind is a terrible thing to waste. What's your natural frequency, man?
YGK: you wrote, "Applause to the rabbit. While I feel that those who can dissec just happen to know a bit more on a
technical level, what you don't seem to understand is that it is FUN for some of us. No, you don't
have to be in the musical anaylsis game to appreciate Steely Dan, however, those of us can analyze
the music find DEEPER PROOF of their musical genius, and marvel in their mastery." Great! Be happy, but does it move you? The coldness of dissection denies and belittles the human and spiritural side of their music, IMHO!
YGK: you also wrote, "So Paul, chill out on that tip, or try to learn something... " Thanks again. By the way, you have no idea what I know and what I don't. If you take my posts too seriously, see a shrink!
And for the rest of you, I love you all!
Everyone's gone to the movies,
Paul C.
"Music, left brain. Cognitive reasoning, right brain." Hell, I hear it all over my head!
Paul C.
Disection comes after the awe wears off...
RUBY; In French they kiss on mainstreet...
"Down at the bottom where your lifeline shows"
Pete "SteelyGod" Fogel: Just stopped by to catch up and knew before your 2nd post that you had not been stumped! Wondering if you got my last e-mail and your non- reply meant my alluded to fears were, alas, valid. In any event, I'll be calling you soon to get some background info on an old live SD video of Reelin', and Do It (w/Palmer on lead vox!) I've had murky black and white kinescopes of the "Reelin'" portion for some time now, but the video I'm about to be shown is in color and (more importantly) in complete stereo! If you know anything about it, please share!!!! (I think my friend said it was from The Midnight Special. Is that possible???)
EEEED Cote: "King of the World" is one of two new additions to The Steely Damned's repetoir! One of my biggest complaints so far is, you guessed it, the sound we're getting for the "solo" section. (I'm even less impressed with our patch for the synth part that plays during the short-wave-backed middle section that follows) I am expecting to acquire a Nord Lead synth soon for the very purpose authentically recreating parts such as these, but until that happens I would LOVE to try out your patch for the DX-100! I have no idea how Systems exclusive data tranference (same as "dumping"?) takes place. Please let me know. Any help would be majorly appec.
No Cal SD fans: The Steely Damned has just confirmed a SAN FRANCISCO show at one of SF's premiere music venues: The Great American Music Hall! The date is set for Sunday, March 2nd. Tickets will be $12.50 If you need any additional info please feel free to call The Rockola Hotline @ 619 558-1966 (starting Thursday afternoon) or e-mail me.
LH: Thanks for the info! Sorry to take so long to do so, my life is changing in extreme ways, and it's fucking up my sense of time. Mid West and East Coast travel (for both Rockola and The "Damned" is currently in limbo do to some harsh & severe financial realities, but if our Bay Area excursion is a screemin' success, it may indeed provide much needed momentum to reach your li'l corner o' Mother. Thanks again....A LOT!
lovebob
Yep siree! That Fogel man is pretty damn slick!
Never mind Fella. You at least have memories of a more personal gig than I do!!!!
Hey, I have located that woody Herman cd I was looking for. well, I haven't actually found it, I just think I know where it is.
can anyone recommend a good Chick Corea cd. I do not have any yet so I need guidance.
laters
pretzel cd hunter
San Fransisco Knight,
My Chick Corea recommendations would include
some stuff from Chick's early days with Miles Davis ("Filles De
Killamanjaro", "In A Silent Way" and "Bitches Brew"); one or two from his "Return To Forever" days ("Hymn
Of The Seventh Galaxy"); Chick's all-time classic "Leprican" which
features the phenomenal Chick composition "Spain" (this one's a requirement IMHO; and
my absolute favorite Chick recording, the self titled "Chick Corea Akoustic Band" set.
This one contains another stupendous version of "Spain" and features
the incredible drumming of Dave Weckl along with John Pattitucci on
bass. I was lucky enough to catch this trio live as "The Akoustic Band"
several years back and they were fantastic. This same trio morph's
into "The Elektric Band" on occasion and they have several recordings
out. I'm not particularly impressed with the "Elektric Band" configuration though. Just
my own personal taste.
That's my $0.02,
Joe
Paul: 1)Firstly, you write like an Objectivist - which would give me cause to applaud YOU! (If that indeed were true)
2)If you want to read some of my more spiritual posts, check the archives. I don't need to prove my capacity for soulfullness, or spirituality to you. However, I've written eloquently at times about AJA, and before that, the helpful guide to diggin' Kamakiriad. I've written passionately at times, although not as beautifully as Edd did recently. I'm concretely aware of soul and spirituality.
3)Music is a whole brain activity.
4)I AM seeing a shrink - but not because of you. Don't take YOURSELF too seriously.
5)The more you write, the more you reveal, and you sound a little "mushy", which doesn't fit in with your alleged Objectivist leanings.
However, Whatever. The End.
In truth, reality, love and harmony,
YGK
20 bit Kama gold disc is a US promo where as 32bit is a
Japanese ltd production piece. For any major dude the 20 bit works just fine.
To San Francisco Knight: On the counter at the mall /
left your book of coupons and your Geritol.
To Dismayed: Lighten up, California; you'll tumble into the sea or something if you try to anally retain everything.
Gotta go; my languid, bittersweet woman wants me to crawl like a viper
through her suburban streets.
This seems to be the right time to ask once more - anybody here with success in stumpin that Fogel?
Corea suggestions: SFK- try "My Spanish heart" that album includes "Armandoīs Rhumba". Very Good! If you want to hear the above (Joe M) suggested "Spain" - dont buy "The Leprechaun" because you dont find that tune on that album. Try "Light as a Feather" instead. Thatīs a good pick too.
Lars,
Of course... Corea's "Spain" appears on "Light As A Feather". And
thanks for the spelling correction on " The Leprechaun" as well. I still
highly recommend "The Leprechaun" though. And the "Spain" on "The
Chick Corea Akoustic Band" set is superior to the "Light As A
Feather" version IMHO.
Joe
Lars,
Of course... Corea's "Spain" appears on "Light As A Feather". And
thanks for the spelling correction on " The Leprechaun" as well. I still
highly recommend "The Leprechaun" though. And the "Spain" on "The
Chick Corea Akoustic Band" set is superior to the "Light As A
Feather" version IMHO.
Joe
JoeM: what no 'Friends' or 'Three Quartets' (Gomez/Gadd) for you?
JoeM: what no 'Friends' or 'Three Quartets' (Gomez/Gadd) for you?
(sorry joe, couldn't resist...)
bcG: Thanks for clearing that up for me, the veins in my forehead are no longer visable...(BTW, Mw lives in CA, no real snow here, just Sears snow).
I think I may risk my take on Wet Side Story pretty soon...you guys got me Sittin' and Listenin' too...
mWorld
Re: Chick Corea, I dig the piece 'Tones for Joan's Bones'.
mW-- for some strange reason I thought you were in the PA/NJ area.
I think I've been working too hard lately :)
SOMEBODY E-MAIL ME PLEASE!!!
SOMEBODY E-MAIL ME PLEASE!!!
Here's a useless but fun thing to do. If you're a fan of the Dan and The Band (and you should be), then you probably like the songs "My Old School" and Jupiter Hollow".
Well, the two songs can be sung together, up to a point; their tunes are so similar, I can only assume that even Robbie the Great emulates those Steely Dan fellows.
If you kick in with "....I remember.." right after Levon Helm sings "..Jupiter hollow..", the tunes merge; they could even be sung as a round at campfires. Unfortunately, the tunes depart for a while and don't re-unit until "..living in another world/...I'm never going back,".
I believe there's a more meaningful cosmic connection between the two greatest North American rock groups. A mutual love interes or something. Anybody know the details?
ophelia later.
Here's a useless but fun thing to do. If you're a fan of the Dan and The Band (and you should be), then you probably like the songs "My Old School" and Jupiter Hollow".
Well, the two songs can be sung together, up to a point; their tunes are so similar, I can only assume that even Robbie the Great emulates those Steely Dan fellows.
If you kick in with "....I remember.." right after Levon Helm sings "..Jupiter hollow..", the tunes merge; they could even be sung as a round at campfires. Unfortunately, the tunes depart for a while and don't re-unit until "..living in another world/...I'm never going back,".
I believe there's a more meaningful cosmic connection between the two greatest North American rock groups. A mutual love interes or something. Anybody know the details?
ophelia later.
Sorry about the double posting. I swear I'm not doing it; there must be some viral invasion in my AOL.
I will sincerely try not to double post this apology.
So lovers, what's the story? I finally get to the net after a taxing morning's work to enjoy the weekend's digestion (burp) and there's almost no postings... noticeably, none on Friday and Saturday to long confirm what I'd always expected: you're really all a bunch of hardened romantics waiting for that next sublime key shift and sax solo, only looking to Donald & Walter's lyrics to give you a bit of sleaze and jaundice 'on the side'. Time to start up the Kenny G discussion again...
Alternatively, StAl what up? - Seanet OD'd on chockies and roses?
Richard&kangaroos
PS: moray eel - any news re Re:The Video?
i KNOW there were at least a couple posts between thursday and sunday... i remember reading them. there weren't many, but now they're gone! what happened to them?
amanda
(Good King)Richard: "THE FIX IS IN and now I'm a witness"...I
did finally receive my copy of the Re: The Video. It arrived
about a week ago and it was definitely worth the wait. The day
it arrived I decided to sample some "Gospel Candy" and view it
several times. GREAT NIGHT. The video and sound is top notch
work. I have already copied it to audio tape and it came out
perfect.
Who were the posters that said Krantz sucked? He is a fine
musician. He seems to be more of a rock guitarist than jazz
player though. Physically he looks like a cross between the
early Neil Young and the '80's Eddie Van Halen. His solo on
Glamour Profession was very interesting.
LuckyHenry: You were right about Donald's keyboard work on Jack
Of Speed. Amazing. Under those red lights, with that sinister
music Donald could pass as Satan's personal minstrel or perhaps
The Devil himself.
Nobody posted on Friday or Saturday? That must be a record. We
need more postings on the weekends...parodies, detailed musical
observations or even more U.S.A./Sweden put-downs. PLEASE...
M.E.
P.S. Now that I have "the video" perhaps I should keep looking
for issue #27 of that fanzine I paid for...
Does anyone know if Brian Sweet is still around? Maybe he would
be interested in starting up the "zine" again or something. I
think "Reelin'" is first-rate because he writes intelligently
about the band and their music. You won't find any fluffy crap
like Rosie Vela's diet secrets in his book.
The Fagen Plan:
Recipe one:
The Gourmet Diet
Take one twinkie.......
only kidding guys!
Hey, thanks for all the Chick Corea pointers. I shall be loaded by the end of the month.
If anyone is interested, I got hold of a Wynton/Ellis Marsallis collaboration cd at the weekend. It's called the Joe Cool Blues and they have basically reworked all the music from the Peanuts TV show. It's damn good. I suggest you check it. Very Wynton but not so jazz that it sounds as though it ends were it should have started.
Quite slick, and my wife loved it. How bizarre...
Roy. Sacm: thanks for the add on lyrics, work's well but bear in mind that I'm from London so I don't know what on earth geritol is. Still, I'll go with it.
Old Cow
Shoes with corners, one glass eye
Talk incessant bullshit, wear a crap bow tie
Faaake bow tie!
With a whining grimace (pronounced grimaice)
And an oblong face!
On the counter at the mall
left your book of coupons and your Geritol.
Columbo, you'll watch it all day on TV
Until you switch to Jeopardy, dah dah dah dah dah
I don't smile anymore, I just hang around (once more I believe)
Talk away, just when they seem pissed off,
'Cos I don't talk now, to that fat old cow
I married years ago.....
Okay, ageist, contraversial etc etc. Hope you guy's laugh, well chuckle slightly.
Laters
prestzel eutnanasian.
I must agree with M.E., that video is boss! But I've got to tell you, the video (from the board) I have from 93 BLOWS this one away! And Krantz? Come on! Zingg plays circles around that guy (how did they choose WK anyway? From a hat?). He may look like Eddie Van Halen, but the comparisons stop there.
I would also like to see Brian Sweet start up that zine again, since I was unaware of it until it was too late. I've seen the ones on the web, but when are they going to be updated? Sweet's book is another story. Although it was enjoyable reading, it was just a compilation of articles from the last two decades. From the sound of things, W&D didn't give him the time of day. Intelligently written? I think the appropriate term is intelligently RE-written.
Mr.Eel I think you've spent too much time curled up in the reef(er).
Does anyone have the sheet music to King of the World???
J.O.D
> Does anyone have the sheet music to King of the World???
Yeah, I do, although as SD songs go, it should be pretty easy for someone to figure out.
I've got sheet music, patches, sequences, recordings... Hey wait! I bet I *am* the king of the worl...
Edd
Well, now we all know where I got the second "d" in my name...
J.O.D. - email me! Lets talk about the Zingster, I dig his playing!
thanks
fez
Metal Leg the Dan fanzine was way much better under Fogel & the other guy than when Sweet did it. Sweet had no connections and was stuck in England and just regurgitated rumors from the states. Pete was in the heart of NYC during Fagen's comeback and knows all the musicians and went to all the shows. His version of the fanzine also had a great sense of humor(like Rosiee Vela diet secrets, Donald Fagen computerized psychological profile, etc.) vs. Sweet's which was pretty dry. If anyone should start the fanzine back up, it should be Pete.
Regarding period of time with no posts: I suspect that St. Al might be able to shed some light on the situation.... It can't be just coincidence that he has archived over the weekend and we lost some posts....
Edd: You're right... King is among the easier SD tunes to figure out...
San Francisco Knight: apparently D&W don't share your enthusiasm for Wynton Marsalis. See the new "The Future--What Went Wrong?" link on the main Dan home page.
MorayMeister!! Hey, what else is on that there video you have? Drop me a line, yeah?
Mr. Chow
"Are you still here with me? Have you got this far?"
YGK: Could I be mistaken, or is that symbol following your name
in the header truly a facsimile of a Fear&Loathing character?
major: Kindly E me, I have some Qs.
Zeke: high.
After many journeys, over hills, dales, plains, waters, and marshes,
I realized that I have never been amidst a desert. Hmm...
So, I request:
ANYONE WITH ARIZONA EXPERIENCES, please inform me what I should focus
on while traversing that fair state next month. E me if you please.
I envision a jaunt out of PHO on Nite1 to groove on the "old" new
moon(3/10). I'm thinkin' a cruise down through Organ Pipe and into
Mexico to Puerto Penasco sounds fun. I know a coupla days'll be
spent around Sedona. Can't leave out a jaunt up to the South Rim
of the Big Hole followed by a continuation west to the dam and up
to Vegas(you know what'll be cranked). We have a friend on the
Navaho Res. who says their are hot springs to explore. I dream of
grinding it out to include a run up to Zion in Utah. Sound like too
much for 7 1/4 days?
This trip is much needed: 14 months ago, a friend of 18 years lost
his bride to diabetic heart failure. Two weeks ago he went to meet
her. Hard week for many here. Break is due. [WB: Walks in a snowy
forest with 11ToW very helpful. Mahalo.]
I've been lurking about the GB for a month or so. Nice to feel up to
scribing again.
"Now the voice on my machine is more alive than what you are"
Lonnie & Johnny: I am not sure what the "The Future......" page is all about. I find it a bit hard to believe that D&W would find Wynton tiresome or mundane. He is a fantastic musician and has exceptional skills in illustrating music in all forms to the world. His children workshops are excellent.
I would actually be disappointed if D&W felt that way. It is because he worships Duke, and Duke did not respond to the Dan?
Still, maybe I just have not picked up on that particular page.
Still trying to acquire the Woody Herman disc. I wil get there!!!!!
Laters boys.
Pretzel Trumpeter
could someone please post or mail me the URL for Pete Fogel's Dan page, my hard drive crashed and I lost it....
thanks
fezzy
We're new on the web here in South Africa and this was the first site we accessed.
Are we Dan Fans or what ?
Looking for some Dan midi. files for our SC88.
fez -- I think there's a link to Fogel's page on the
SD links page
San Francisco Knight,
No doubt Wynton is an exceptional musican and is impassioned about
spreading the word about the music. The trouble a lot of folks have
with Wynton is his distaste for anything non-traditional and/or
experimental. He's become a straight-ahead jazz zealot who
can't tolerate the contributions of certain individuals especially
as it relates to free jazz and fusion jazz. He berates his brother
Branford for juxtaposing jazz elements with pop and rock elements and
playing with non-jazz musicians. He all but dismisses anything by
Miles after 1968. He has assumed the position as world spokesman on
jazz correctness.
Don't get me wrong, I think Wynton has done a great service to us all
by making traditional (bebop) jazz an important idiom once again but, man,
lighten up already... Without the jazz fusion experimentations of
Miles, Corea, Hancock, Shorter, et. al we would not have The Dan, who
thrust into main stream pop radio in the early 70's armed with a
plethora of latent jazz and jazz fusion sensibilities. So maybe this
is where D&W part company with Wynton? Who knows.
BTW: If you haven't heard Wynton's "Live At Blues Alley" with Jeff
"Tain" Watts on drums, I highly recommend this one. For anyone who
feels that Wynton can't blow with the best of them, check this one
out!
More than my $0.02 worth.
Joe
Why dīyall spend time on this crap instead of digging ?..
Kid
Joe: at the end of Wynton's distaste list, you need to add the words "or white": he apparently doesn't believe any "legitimate" jazz
can come out of a honky.
As I restrain myself from overheating over the Wynton thing, I just must say that although Wynton is "technically proficient" in his playing, what I consistently hear is lacking from his music is his soul. Sure, sure, he can blow over changes, but where the fuck is his VOICE?
Oh yeah, he's also a bigot.
And all of this from a deep honky.
YGK
Ummmm!
Some interesting points raised above...
A mixture of resentment and pseudo respect. I have only witnessed wynton as himself through one of the kid workshops he did for the BBC over here in London. Interestingly enough, the two pieces he used to analyse form were 'I got rythym' by GG and 'Night & Day' by IB. Now, these two guys are not top on my black list of writers.
Before you think that, being the BBC it would have a white focus anyway, the audience, kids obviously, were quite a mix of origin, most of whom could play to some level.
So, although it does not negate the black/white thing, it does illustrate his feel for using identifiable, and certainly influencial pieces. I mean Night & Day was written for Fred Astaire, who's movies usually featured those of ethnic origin as flunkies or dumb waiters. Totally un PC.
With reference to JM, I must admit that I have not heard anything on the fusion side from him either and you are probably correct in that he may be a 'trad snob' which would be disappointing. I also agree with you on the other artists that you mentioned. Although, I have never liked Miles D's sound at all. Mind you he was a funny guy!
what does wynton make of woody herman, in my view the jazz band meister. If you do not have it, Woody's Winners, recorded at Basin Street West, is the ultimate in bomb dropping horn feel. It has all the classics, Greasy Sack Blues, Woody's Whistle and Opus de Funk. Love it, shite album cover though...
laters guys
pretzel horn player
yeah yeah yeah
back on the old stupid dan song re-titles...
a selection of classic hits for teenage boy tossers follows...
Do it at all
Boston drag
Take whizz kids
Need a buzz
Everything you didn't
Home whenever
Hey, sixteen and a half
Fuck all profession
Featuring classic lyrics such as ...
'In the morning you don't get up'
'Hey sixteen, that reefer's crackling'
'Who had that bastard son?'
and the favourite...
'Steal some gas from that car'
bye for now
pretzel vendor
Oh, no! Bad news in "Brooklyn"...
Odd as it seems, today I purchased "Can't Buy A Thrill" on CD. (I've been listening to my vinyl and the tapes I made of it for only a quarter century, and it was only $6 new... go figure.)
Anyhow, I was interested in hearing the "newly remastered" cuts, so I pushed the amp into Class A, bolted on the Sennheisers and cued up my fave track from the album, "Brooklyn."
I love the way the track aurally "opens" when the backup-vocals come in for the second chorus, but listen closely during the final chorus.
"Brooklyn Owes The Charmer Under Me" is repeated four times (2 iterations of 2) and then just as the instrumental "outro" begins you can here "Brook/click" on beat one. Someone fell asleep and started the chorus a third time.
Three explanations I can think of: (1)Some bu-voxen got lost and mistakenly started another chorus or (2) the backups were "flown in" from someplace else and someone misplaced the mute button or (3) at somepoint after the vocals were tracked it was decided they would be cut after the second iteration and again somebody didn't hit the mute button in time. (I know I hear the the word "Brook...". I believe I hear a click after it that ain't part of the percussion track.) I lean toward #2.
Any of you other analytical types hear it? And can you hear the one point where the rhythm guitar is simply TOO EARLY?
Edd
Edd Cote: The extra "Brook" doesn't appear on the vinyl
version? I always thought that extra "Brook" was intentional.
Well, if it is a mistake my money is on number 4.
m.e.
Sorry...number 3! I was thinking that the forth explaination
would be that it was intentional.
Sorry
m.e.
FOURTH EXPLANATION...((yeah))...no more candy for me.
m.e.
Sorry to drag up Toto, but at the start of Africa, faintly behind J Pocaro's legendary intro, your can hear a couple of guys laughing.
I will try the Brooklyn thing tonight.
By the way, is there a particular affection for King of the World on this page? It has seemed to be mentioned quite a few times over the last few days.
I am not too keen on that one myself. I'm not sure why, but it is one of the very very few Dan songs that I try to avoid. Am I missing something?
laters
pretzel unfulfilled
Hey, open up the dan mailroom!!!!
Communication required!!!!
Do you know about the metric system. This is very important, 1 mile (not your mickey mouse mile) is 100 kilometers. 1 kilometer is 980 meter. 1 meter is 89 centimeters und so weiter.
You need to know this because in my next post I going to show you some chapters of my Great Swedish Novel.
The scene is this; A halfdark room with two ordinary chairs, Chippendale. The left chair is ungeferlich 2 meter and 45 centimeter...
sorry, got to go.
Have patience..
I imagine (without pulling out the album to confirm) the extra "Brook" does appear on the vinyl, I'd just never noticed it.
Its' presence, and the fact I've never noticed it, both surprise me equally.
Edd
Hey, more interesting facts about Wynton. having dinner last night with a saxophonist friend of mine who told me a story he heard when in the British Youth Jazz Orchestra.
Apparently, the Cardiff (Wales) Philharmonia had asked Wynton's agent if he would perform with them in a classical festival.
The request was then retracted when Wynton's agent stated the fee would be Ģ15,000 for the night.
Now Ģ15,000 as a session fee, rock-jazz performance or maybe a run of shows would be cool, but to assume that the Cardiff Philharmonic would stump up that kinda cash would more or less guarantee that he did not perform for them.
That is not a cool Wynton point. Just to add to his shit list.
Cheesed me off when I heard that one.
Clas: wierd posting. Shouldn't a metre be 98cm not 89?...
laters
pretzel overcharging
The e-mail accounts for the SD website are not operational
"due to circumstances beyond our control". The appropriate drones
are and have been hard at work to solve the problem -- your patience is appreciated
SD WebDrone: You are cool and good.
Await the great moment when communication is restored.
Earth: High. What's new on the coffee scene? Crawling out of my cave
after the winter. Winters are not brutal here, I'm ready for spring.
Been out for a while, any new info. on the CD? I believe it will happen, and when it hits the streets it will blow us Dan Fans away.
Clas: What's up??
Jazz Fest, 'round the cornah.
Back in the cave.
Z.
Moray Eel - Just when I thought EddCote was the top Steely Dan tune
decipherer, you join in with your superior knowledge. How do you know
so much? Have you
broken bread with Mr. Steely Dan?
Don't you make me come back there again young man! I'll
turn this car around right now if I have to.
Kinky! Long time, dude - how are ya?
What wisdom do you have to impart on us today?
YGK
"NO he can't sleep on the floor, whaddaya think I'm yelling for!"
amanda: thanks sister, looks like no one else's been there.
Zeke: Right on dude! Never been to N.O.-- hope to make it down for
at least a few days of 'Fest. The deal is, a local friend never
misses JazzFest, and he invited me to crash at the house he rents
annually... cool, we'll see! More later.
Interestingly, the Union on campus here got a leviathan of a machine
recently which conjures up Starbucks jo in the Capp, Latte, and Espr
varieties. Verdict: Yuck. I'll stick with my homemade Gevalia stuff
when I can't get over to the Java Roaster.
major: what's your E bro?, i've gotta Qor2.
bobtedde: Does the Damned play outside of California?
"...all the stars come out at niiigghhhhhtt"
Kinky: Nope! I have never broken bread with Mr. Steely Dan or
whatever. I am merely giving my humble opinion and trying my
best to make a little bit of sense out of a very cryptic band.
I enjoy it when posters share some detailed musical
observations. IMHO, it makes this place more interesting when
someone writes about the cool baseline at the begining of The
Nightfly or the vocal fade out of Gaucho. To me, these posts
are more fun to read than posts like...
I like Steely Dan. They are neat.
Fred Snerd.
But I could be wrong...
m.e.
oh no, clean willy is back! everybody out!
Earthbound: you talking to me?
MinahW: Don't let Ricky play through. I've never seen him or Walter fix a ball mark yet, those moody bastards.
Sorry for the absence, I've been holed up listening to Edd's analysis of Time Out of Mind. Could it be that the timing of the song is simply the way it worked out when they played it, and the result was one created by some swing in their strokes? Who counts that kinda shit?
BTW, while I was hard at work in the sound lab, I came up with the coolest shades for Steely Dan bath-robes.
maj.
any fans in the Philadelphia/S. Jersey area--tomorrow on 93.3 wmmr
fm, Steely Dan is the featured artist of the day for 'FAT Thursday'
(featured artist Thursday)! They play songs, interviews, etc. all
day.
Earthbound--check out the North rim, the South rim is the more
touristy part of the Grand Canyon. Although I'm not sure if the
North rim is open all year. I'll email you some more stuff.
Happy B-Day W.
Yeah, happy birthday Walter!
Well, there's some new additions to my page. Along with some photos, there is a new game for you to play called "Guess the Guest Guitarist" (say that 3 times fast). The object of the game is to guess which guitarists appear in the hidden pictures with Donald and/or Walter. You get a few hints, and if someone correctly guesses all of the players (in the first try), they may or may not receive a prize. According to the rules on the page, I was going to put the pictures up when the first person answered correctly, but instead, just keep track of your guesses, either here, or through me, and I'll post the pictures and answers sometime soon. If everybody digs this game, we'll try to get Vanna White to help turn the photos next time.
Too easy, Pete. Read the mail I sent you.
Edd
SAN FRANSISCO KNIGHT; OK, maybe youīre right, 97 centimeters, I think, donīt got the right number. We take it again; 1 mil is 100 kilometers, 1 kilometer is something between 91 - 99 meters and then we got centimeters, millimeters and decimeters, all in 90 -100 millimeters, ungeferlich... where the hell am I now... well, this halfdark, very luguberus, nordic, Bergman bluesic kind of room, halfdark, there are two chairs, the left is standing ca 2 meter and 76 millimeters from the wall. The name of the Great Swedish Novel is "The Heart Behind The Sternum". Anyway, on those two chairs there are sitting... hell, we wait with this till tomorrow. Iīm in a hurry, people are yelling about lunch here behind me. Lunch, shit.
Before I go, last night I went high on music again, listened to Bruce Hornsbys "Hot House" and " Harbor Lights". Wow, that is hot music, itīs burning. Listen to the pianointro of Harbor Lights. Bruce is a genius. And Pat Metheny on guitar. I was dancing!
Hope you all can wait till later...
The Tango King
Happy Birthday
Emerald "Beauty" Caissons!
So, long lunch.
Are everybody with me now on the metric system? For those who areīnt I strongly recommend you to watch the swedish movie Pulp Fiction, itīs a famous dialog there... "Le Bigge Mac"...
So then the "The Heart Behind the Sternum", itīs just a workingname so donīt go out in public with this now, you are just a testaudience. Itīs a great honor for you, remember that!
The room is luguberusley halftone dark and there are two chairs, as I said before, two ordinary chairs. The left chair is standing cirkus 2 meter and 45 centimeter from the fond. The right chair is standing ca 185 centimeter from the left side of the scene. On those two chairs are some wireframes, hidden from sight from a ...
Shit, itīs 5 oīclock. Got to go.
Edd: You have a really keen ear. I can verify that the extra "Brook-" does appear on the original vinyl as Moray Eel suggested. This happens just before the end guitar solo which sounds like Denny Dias along with Skunk on pedal steel in the background. Perhaps originally the song was recorded with the "Brooklyn owes the charmer under me" line repeated to fade out. Then they decided to finish with the guitar work to fade out instead. The the rest of the vocals could have been edited out at that point with the finals Brook- left on their by accident or on purpose - I don't know. I think that this album was recorded fairly quickly (2-3 weeks?).
Fogel's "guess the guitarist", a reply:
1. Hiram Bullock
2. Denny Dias
3. Pat Metheny (Pat is from Lee Summit, MO... Not Boston, MA)
4. Elliot Randall
5. Billy Cox
So, I took my best shot...
Joe
Hail WMMR! for flooding the airwaves with Steely Dan today. (Thanks for the tip, Bod!) Mostly from CBAT and Katy so far. Among others, they've spun FM and Chain Lightning, followed by the comment: "jazzy..like an in-house Kenny G". Bleah.
m.e.: re: Donald under the red lights: absolutely.
Happy B'Day, Walt.
lovebob: (since my last post was deleted): The recent package was courtesy of the maj., who, incidentally, has been laying down some nice blues licks lately, esp. on Chain. Must be the Cyberdon book.
lh.
DrMU; Thatīs fine, but what have that to do with my "The Heart Behind The Sternum"?
Clas: Pulp Fiction is wholely an American Film.
You drinkin' again, son?
wholely=wholly
droppin' the idea down: Hey, is it just me, or could Carolyn Leonhart try going solo?
Her vocal prowess/experience with our boys and good looks seem like an irresistible idea...
Well, we made a little mistake in the contest, but it's fixed now, I think. So far, no one has given all the correct answers here. Thanks Edd and Joe M.
Happy Birthday Mr. Becker! Uk Time!
Just remember one thing - OZZY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"am I just a crazy guy - you bet"
Clas: The heart behind your sternum pumps approximately 6 liters (that's 6000ml or 6
cubic decimeters (each decimeter = 1/10 meter)) of blood each minute at rest. If
you're running as hard as you can to the
nearest YMCA to piss off of the second floor, given your age and physical condition, your heart would
pump about 22 liters of blood per minute. You would also consume about 3 liters of oxygen per minute doing that (or 4.29 grams of oxygen or 8.34 x 10exp23 molecules per minute).
Outside Sweden: 1 Gigameter = 1,000,000,000 meters; 1 Megameter = 1,000,000 meters; 1 kilometer = 1,000 meters; 1 centimeter = 1/100 meter
and 1 mile = 1609.3 meters
excuse me, that's 8.34 x 10exp22 molecules of oxygen per minute
pissboy,
get a grip. get a clue. get a job. get a haircut. get a life. get the fuck off this board you sweedish oxfart.
r
happy birthday, wb!
amanda
WB 46 Already??
Where did those years go?
correction 47!!!!
happy birthday, mr. becker. thank you so much for dan.
peace,
rabbit
ps--lessee, that was two pints in a quart, two quarts in a gallon.... wait, was that four pints? shit, i can never remember...... 'a pint's a pound the world around....' no, that's different. oh hell, never mind.
by the way, anyone know how many pounds in one stone? i'll give my first album side choice this upcoming 'lp friday' to whomever can give the correct answer. naturally if i don't have the album in question, this offer is null and void. residents of the united kingdom or any relatives/spouses/passing acquaintences thereof may not participate. residents of sweden may participate, but must preface all responses with a minimum of five (5) lines of vaguely incomprehensible anti-american rhetoric. i don't have any pat metheny, sorry.
Walter: So I return home after 10 days in the Sunshine State just in time to be able to send you happy thoughts on your birthday - enjoy!
rabbit: If memory serves, a former co-worker of mine who came from London once informed me that there are 14 pounds in one stone. Just my little contest entry.
Later, Beautiful Survivor
In case you're wondering. . .happy b'day, WB. Checking out the Guestbook, while enjoying 11 ToW one more time. . .
The name of Bruce Hornsby came up earlier today. Here's a clipping I found awhile back:
"Hornsby was asked for a list of dream collaborators. Only one came to mind: guitarist Mark Knopfler. . .Jazz/pop fusionists (sic) Walter Becker and Donald Fagen aren't tempting because 'they're into jazz on a technical level, not on an attitude level,' claims Hornsby. . ."
Glad to see all of you zombies. My father would be proud, since he played "Any Major Dude" 10 times in a row while my mother was going into labor with me. I'm pretty much computer illiterate, and slighly more Dan illiterate than ya'll seem to be(that's right...Dallas, Tx) but I'm certainly not lacking in the rabid enthusiasm of any good Danfan. Maybe I'll get a computer soon and get to know some of you better.
...and Edd...you can meet me under a banyan tree and a double helix anytime, baby.
The neighboors are screaming, so it's back to my bunker.
My guesses are:
1.Hiram Bullock
2.Dias
3.Metheny
4.Randall
5.Harvey Brooks
BTW, the pictures of the guitarists never came up on my Netscape.
m.e.
I guess I'll just have to be patient.
A few people have referred to this Guestbook as Ego City. Well, here is your chance to boost your ego . I have several questions that I have been unable to answer and I am seeking input from anyone. The Letterman rules apply...please, no wagering.
1. Donald has stated that there are several mistakes on the cover of The Nightfly. Can you name any or all of them?
2. How did Jeff "Skunk" Baxter really get his nickname? Was it from not changing his socks(as he claimed)? Or an incident with an outdoor critter(as I believe Denny claimed)? Could it have been his preferred
kind of smoke?
3. What are YGT and YGTII about? I can usually get a general idea of what most of their songs are about but these two really perplex me?
I have a couple more questions, but I think I will save those for another rainy day.
m.e.
I had a great original band tonight at Le Bar Bat called Stir Fried. They featured Tim Kaye (the son of Thomas Jefferson Kaye, who you may know as an artist that recorded some of Donald and Walter's early songs), and Buddy Cage, the pedal steel player from the New Riders of the Purple Sage. They had a major Grateful Dead/San Francisco sound happening. Anyway, if you ever hear of these guys playing, you should check them out!
Moray Eel, pretty good, but no cigar. So far, no winners yet, but a lot of close ones. I can see now that you guys are pretty good, so wait till the next one, I'll make it much tougher. BTW, you can't see the pictures because no one has won the game, the broken icons are supposed to be there. I'll post the pictures and answers in a week or so.
The most obvious faux pas on the cover of "The Nightfly" would be the placement of some of the objects, most notably the microphone and the Sonny Rollins album cover.
The microphone is placed such that the cable runs *towards* the announcer, not over the back of the desk. Worse, since he's in a corner, the cable now runs between him and the exit.
The album cover is on the far side of the turntable from the announcer, meaning he'd be constantly reaching over the platter, certainly a dumb thing to do in a studio.
Edd
the game: 1.bullock 2. baxter 3. metheny 4. randall 5. noel redding
Dear "Rabbit", I thought stones were of many varying weights, not just a fixed one...??
Hey Hank, too bad Hornsby has such a misinformed opinion of B&F's attitude. As I recall Walter had some nice things to say about Hornsby in his Blindfold test on the Dan Web site.
and to moray eel, who knows about YGT but I remember some talk about YGTII containing some references to Burroughs characters like the Wild Boys.
moral eel,
Possible Answer to #1. When I worked in radio (WICB-FM, Ithaca, NY) doing my jazz expansions show years ago, I would always prepare for the spoken seque into the next cut. As I was both engineer and DJ, I would cue up the next track. The turntable arm on the cover of Nightfly isn't cued up. In the title track, Fagen sings, "I got plenty of java, and Chesterfield Kings" - where's the Java? And finally, as I'm looking on the CD pic, we see the Sonny Rollins cover, but can anyone tell if that, in fact, is the Sonny Rollins disc on the tt?
YGT=gambling. I picture Sharon Stone stalking the Vegas floors in "Casino". When you gamble everything else away, you take the gold out of your fillings and bet that. The bridge (tobacco...Peking) says that if you rely on the same crop time after time, one year the locusts will come around and you're screwed.
But then I could be wrong; I don't even know if they grow tobacco in Peking; I've heard it suggested that they could manage a good crop in Sweden, something about a surplus of fertilizer.
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The Older I Get, The Better I Used To Be....
beautiful survivor--i don't know if a former co-worker would fall under the 'passing acquaintence' category, but aw, what the hell, i'll give it to you. if you can give me an album side (dan would naturally be a good choice), i'll make it my first choice tonight at the 'lp friday' festivities. bear in mind the only dan vinyl i have would be the 'greatest hits' double, 'aja,' and 'pretzel logic.' Any T-Rex or Rush would also be a welcome selection. let me know.
pearl-- a 'stone' is also an archaic unit of measuring weight. some other archaic units would be, for example, a league, a rod, or even a mile....... wait, sorry; we still use that one.
anybody know how many grams in a 'scruple'? i'll even throw in my nightly 'album card' if anyone can figure that one out.
peace,
rabbit
Steve Kahn, Dias, Metheny, Rick Derringer, Billy Cox
Doesn't YGT have something to do with David Palmer's teeth?
Can somebody tell me what a "squonk" is? I'd appreciate it because it's been eating at my brain for years.
A squonk is a mythical creature that could cry itself into a bag of tears, according to Gary Katz.
Hi y'all! I think I'm part squonk.
I've been wondering what the very best-loved, most humorous, or just awsome SteelyDan lyrics are. You thoughts will be appreciated...
hey,rabbiiiiiiit! get it on...bang a gong...
On measurements: George, do you still want mine? (and where is my package?)
Also - why do they measure horses in *hands*? How big is a hand, anyway?
CLAS: we need more action in the chair novel. How about some time warp space travel parallel universe type stuff and don't leave out the sex?
over&out
RubyBaby
Dandy Gamma Chi: Hear, hear - and of all the things we've lost, we miss our minds the most!
Speaking of which....
rabbit: Thanks for giving me the nod, however I have given additional thought to the answer I gave. I am not sure now if it's 14 pounds or 7 pounds per stone. If you will still accept my answer, I would be very pleased to provide you with the following album side, based on your album availability:
1. Rikki...
2. Black Cow
3. Deacon Blues
4. Pretzel Logic
5. Peg
6. Home At Last
I could go on, of course, but that's about a side's worth. Have fun with it.
Raising up my glass, Beautiful Survivor
scruple:== 1.296 grams:== 20 grains
I don't have any.
Edd
...and a hand is 4 inches.
I have two.
Edd
Ruby--most loved and most awesome, I'll have to think about it; I
love them all! Most humorous, I'd have to go with "Rose Darling":
'the spore is on the wind tonight/you won't feel it 'till it
grows' There's a humongous fungus among us! AAAAAHHHHH!!!!
BC
Rub--lyric to quell an unwanted pickup: 'Hot lips and rhetoric
don't count much for nothin''. I've actually used this one...
BC
AHHH! Thereīs no meaning for me to develop this creative Novel anymore with you babbling around about guitars and the king of the world (for your knowledge there are several kings in the world, one for each country, King of Greenland, King of Madagaskar, King of Burma and so on, stupid mothers).
YGK: Pulp Fiction is an American movie? Anything you say baby, but is it North or South American? Ha ha! IQ. But do me a favour, ask our Travola (not Rockola) our famous swedish actor, what country Pulp Fiction is made in. I get so damn tired of you kids... didīnt you go to school?
And who the hell is Walter?
Kids; there must be another forum for your infantile babbling...
About Hornsby; I sad I was dancing to him the other night. "Hot House" and " Harbor Lights". It is so fucking good music, I understand what he meant what he said about Steely Dan. They can NEVER rock and swing and let go like mr. Hornsby. I saw him live in Stockholm a couple of years ago. Incredible. So, I must srtongly recommend to the part of the people here that are not tonedeaf to listen to the intro of "Harbor Lights". It gets you high.
ROCK IN AMERICA; Do you rock in south or northAmerica? Get back to the apes please.
RUBY: More sex in it? I TOLD you itīs about the metric system; 1000 - 100 - 10 -1. And whereīs my chicken soup? I feel sick again.
The Tango King
I SAID - not "I sad". I know.
HI RUDY, me and my wife stopped by at your graphic works and we just wanted to say itīs damn good! Right on! (I have said it before but it canīt be said to many times)
Clas and Lena
Bodacious Cowgirl:That lyric is actually "hot licks and rhetoric" not "hot lips". But hey, maybe it could have a similar meaning, if you know what I mean....
Ruby- my favorite lyrics: Rose Darling , Charlie Freak
Funniest line- "..we know you're smokin' wherever you are."
Dumbest line-"Brooklyn owes the charmer under me."--Sonny Bono could have written that one.
Best line: "I don't have the heart to lose another fight. Until my ship comes in, I'll livenight by night."
Idly,
R.S.
Re: the question of mistakes on the Nightfly cover,
one can discern New York (N.Y.) and Long Island (L.I.)
phone nos. in the open matchbook (on the album cover at least).
Not unusual for a New Yorker like DF to have such a book, but a peculiarity when possessed by a purported Baton Rouge d.j.
spur: the nightfly is not a baton rouge d.j. "hello, baton rouge" refers to the Nightfly taking an on-air phone call from a caller from baton rouge. kinda like larry king, but of course not as much as a dick as mr. king.
Since my little tirade on "Time Out Of Mind" seems to have
gone over fairly well, I'm gonna take a chance and put up another one. This one's a bit longer, so in deference to those who'd rather not slog
thru another "nuts and bolts" posting, I'm just going to leave a
pointer. If you're interested click
here. Edd balinese cowboy: Thanks for the interpretation of "The Nightfly".
That the d.j. is acknowledging the caller's 20 (rather than saying hello to his
local audience) certainly makes sense. Good point.
The matches may still be out-of-place, as I'm still steered toward
thinking that WJAZ would lie in the South,
given the reference to Mt. Belzoni. The only Belzoni that comes to mind is in the
Mississippi Delta blues country and sits between Jackson, MS and Indianola, MS.
I think it's pronounced "Belzona" by the locals. The region has as much
musical heritage as anywhere one can think of, and maybe DF's giving a nod
to blues's (and jazz's?) roots. On the other hand, to imagine anything
there could be called a mountain is fanciful. Maybe there's another, obvious
Belzoni somewhere. Or, maybe the fictional tale can't be located at all, with
the references being metaphors or being inside jokes for DF's friends.
In any event, another great musical short story from Mr. Fagen.
Thanks again.
pearl--thanks, I always thought it was 'lips'.
to the poster before me--keep your perverted, vile, SICK crap
off of this board!!!!
Allow me to be the first in what I'm sure will be a long line of posts voicing my disgust and condemnation. ASDLKAHSD, is your life really that pitiful?
Before it goes too far, remember, some people crave attention and the more we respond the more they like it.
Can I be the LAST person to respond?
Don't take the bait.
Edd
Man...and some people thought that the parodies were bad...
m.e.
Clas, first the phone calls and now this? Is this what they do in Sweden? Keep your sick shit to yourself. And Edd Cote, would you please analyze this situation for us. Thanks
MISTER Phil Filestrio; Ok, you can say anything to me, insult me, piss on me, and call me anything. But you are accusing me for those pictures above and I promise you, Iīm serious here, if you where standing next to me I would kill you. And thatīs a threat MISTER. I may act crazy or trying to be funny sometimes, but that thing is NOT my bag, understand MISTER PHIL? I guess StAl can see what that shit comes from. NEVER say that to me again.
Well, yesterday (saturday) my wife helped me here at work and she was standing in the other room at the signmakermachine and I was out here in cyber, looking around a little (she thought I was working too). Suddenly sheīs standing behind my back and ask what I was doing. So, I had to show her around a little, Erics graphics, River Sound Studio and Pete Fogels Homepage. When we came to mr Fogel she screamed; - Isīnt that the guy who tried to sell us some newspaper when we where on our way in to see mr. Fagen at Lone Star? - Sure is, I said. Itīs a wonderful person, I know him very well. We are pals. - But isīnt that a big step, selling newspaper on the Central Park South area to become famous and have an own HomePage? She looked at me with her big blue eyes, - Why donīt you have an own homepage darling? - Well, I said, remember one thing here, he lives in USA, you can be whatever you want there. You can take pick any person you want, any homeless, any crackbaby in Inglewood and say -Hey you can be the President! And this life we have here in Sweden is only temporary. I promise, someday we end up in Malibu or Fifth Avenue, I promise baby.
Then I had to show her this guestbook, meet my friends YGK, R.O.C.k. in America, and when she read his post she laughed ( get a clue, get a grip swedish pissboy). And she was laughing at ME.
So folks, as an old rule that goes way back, let us not bring our wifes on the tourbus, it will only be problem.
So, have a nice day folks, (and let us all ignore the perverted poster and his sick pictures).
Clas
Seanet appears to keep access logs which should prove rather interesting.
Probably the normal stuff. You know, who accessed the page, from where, what time they logged in and out. That sort of thing...
Greetings fellow addicts,
It's been a long time since I last checked in. Don't you just hate it when life gets in the way? (grin)
In any case, I have been mightily inspired by the nice improvements here, and with Pete and Scott's pages, and with the promise of new and better over at the Official Page, so I finally got off my ass and fixed up my own site a little bit.
As always, your comments are most welcome.
All the best, Sorry gang -- was out of town for the weekend. My suggestion if that sort of thing ever happens again is to TOTALLY IGNORE it. Do not even give the moron the slightest acknowledgement. Under normal circumstances I check the GB daily. Usually I'd catch something like that within hours of the post and would quietly remove the offending article. I've done it before.
You see, dickheads like that thrive on the response that is generated from successive posts. ESPECIALLY if it angers someone.
To imply that is was CLAS is ridiculous. Before any accusations occur may I suggest you get the facts FIRST!!!
Also, you may want to check out the changes I've made to the Sign in Stranger Archive Page. No big deal really, just made it a little easier to view some of the more recent posts than downloading the entire months posts.
Peace,
StAl
Just li'l ol' me again shamelessly hawking the upcoming San Fransisco performance of THE STEELY DAMNED. It would seem that there are not a whole lot of you guestbookers out there what call the Bay Area your home. Well anyways..... if your in the vicinity and plan to drop by, here are the vitals:
March 2nd. The Great American Music Hall. $12.50 at all Bass outlets (and the box office of course) 8:00pm start (ROCKOLA opens with a set of unusual Beatles tunes) Steely show 9:30pm - 1 or 1:30AM.
Hey if your comming, drop me an E-mail! For every RSVP I get another minute of sleep!
EDD: Profuse thank you's for the KOTW (twood make great call letters) synth patch. Alas, I haven't had time to try it out yet, nor will I until I return from Sf. We've decided not to do "King..." this time out do to it's newness to our show.(read "tentative on it") Instead we're putting our time into polishing up Bad Sneakers, Gaucho, and The Boston Rag. Wish you could be there. I'd love a good honest Edd Cote assesment of the whole thing.
MAJ.:Thanks for the care package. I am putting it to good use. the pix are fab!!!
lovebob
Guestbook quip of the Week: "A hand is 4 inches; I've got two."
Does this boast apply during a Countermoon?
StAl; Thanks.
Dr. MU; Iīm sorry, I should respond to your nice post about the oxygen and pumpkins and all things you wrote. Is that what happens when you run? Man you make me nervous. But you got one number wrong there, it wasīnt from the second floor, what I recall it was the fifth. Thanks anyway.
RUBYBABY; You must be confused about that sex-thing, you know in Sweden sex is the number 6, and I thought you where into inches and yards again. But, maybe you know, in England they got something that is called scotland yard, do they have theyre own metric system or what? And whereīs that Chicken Soup honey?
MAXINE; Where are you, I miss you.
Happy Halloween!!!
Caught up after a weekend of flood and snow control, gotta love those Chicago winters. Happy belated birthday Walter, hope you enjoyed it, you deserve it, you have given so much to all of us.
Ruby, how you been? As far as lyrics, Royal Scam has got some really funny stuff, Kid Charlemagne, The Fez, Haitian Divorce, and Everything You Did (I never knew you, You were a roller skater You gonna show me later, Turn up the Eagles the neighbors are listening. My favorite lyrics though would have to be the second verse of Deacon Blues, (what else).
Take care all, and stay dry,
DCB
My back to the wall, a victim of laughing chance
This is for me, the essence of true romance,
Sharing the things we know and love
With those of my kind,
Libations, sensations, that stagger the mind
I crawl like a viper, through the suburban streets
Make love to these women, languid and bitter sweet,
I rise when the sun goes down,
Cover every game in town, a world of my own,
I'll make it my home sweet home,
My favou lyrics is "The Cuervo Gold, the fine Colombian..." But one thing confuses me hard here, I didīnt know there where such a thing as a Colombia Tequila. Does anyone has a clue?
Hasta la vista
Clas and anyone else who might have wondered: I'm around, lurking, having kind of a rough time in my little corner of the playroom. Think maybe I'd like to look up the Major's list of SD songs he posted oh-way-back-when.
Hope all's well for the rest of you.
Maxine
Well, that little adventure in free speech on the Web is over for
the moment. After being on hiatus, I was relaxing into familiar
monikers, enjoying laconic chat about stone and scruple (Phil Gramm
has no scruples), when I saw the pix. I tried to email, but for some
reason couldn't. So thanx for the edit job--but--I know we shouldn't
go on about it, but I'm curious: who does the axing? Is there a Web
Patrol you're supposed to call on your wrist radio? Whoever it is--
thanks, and we can debate free speech issues another time.
EC--You are the Eddman! You take deconstruction to a whole nother
level.
John--Your site looks great. I just love the Dan, not an addict,
but these tidbits titillate.
Lyrics faves? Oh my, how to begin--all of "Night by Night," and I
just love how Fagen says "I'll brew up some decaf" in "Trans-Island
Skyway."
SLFN
Clas: man, nose candy, sugar snow, dandruff of the gods, white lady...
Any other daft metaphors guys?
Thanks to all those who gave Chick Corea pointers. My Spanish Heart is now mine, and is rather good. You can tell from his playing. Got quite a sense of humour hasn't he??
The next CD acquisition will be Coltrane! Recommendations please!!!!
You will note that I am shying away from guitarists. I have all Larry Carlton's, Ritenour's, Benson's, the list goes on. I'm more into what drove Don & Walt on...apart from that Wynton CD I bought two weeks back.
I am trying not to fall into the Miles Davis trap. Too many CDs to choose from.
Any other artists that I should check out?
I have a great selection of vinyl Herman, Brubeck, Wes, Basie, Ellington, Django and Grapelli, problem is my deck is at my parents place, miles from London. Still, most of my benson is on cd so I can't grumble.
Bodacious Cowgirl: Steady baby!!!! What's eating you?
laters pretzel wrappers
One last thing.
dug Bad Sneakers over the weekend. I have come to the conclusion that Mike McDonalds backing is fucking fantastic and is what really kicks on that track.
the way he cuts in with the line "going (or is it gone) insane" second verse and once again after guitar refrain, fucking brilliant. He almost takes the total emphasis of Fagen's line and then hands back the line having made the point.
Brilliant production of vocals their.
Like when your arguing with your wife and need to really stress the fundamental points. That is what he does there!
I've been humming it all day. Good to be re-introduced into the brilliance of another track that I have not been paying enough attention.
laters pretzels with beards and falsetto
Spur: I've always imagined Mt. Belzoni to be one of the smaller Catskills. When I was a youngster, the family would make a pilgrimage once a year from Chicago to New York to see the grandfolks. My Dad's parents lived in the city, while my Mom's parent's live up on a hill just north of Pleasantville. From the front yard, you could gaze westward across the Hudson to the foothills of the Catskills. On top of one of those mounts was an array of radio and TV antennae. The location was ideal for broadcasting across the tri-state area. Being away, at that time, from the glow of the city the nighttime view of the blinking lights was spectacular.
This is only a test. I think it is going to work Amanda...
However, I will never forgive you for making me look at the New Kids On The Block web site for an example!
StAl
San Fran Knight: EXACTLY re: Bad Sneakers. McDonald's vox are brilliant. That's why the song will never feel like it does on the record when it's done live (unless, of course, Mr. McDonald shows up). It sounded good on tour this summer, but even despite changing the phrasing on the bridge, the girls' voices were just too 'nice' to give it the intensity I was hoping for.
Donald's lead is also perfect in this song.
SFK: Agree whole-heartedly on the Mike McDonald comments above. I would
also add that Mike's "Broadway Duchess, darlin' if you only knew", etc.
from "I Got The News" followed by Don's excellent "What I hear, may be
true", etc. followed by Becker's BRILLIANT guitar solo would not have worked
sooo well without Mr. McDonalds bold vocal intro. I also think the live "Peg"
is left wanting for Mike's emphasis on the main theme. Mike's vocals are
such an integral part of any Dan song in which he appears that it just
isn't the same song without him IMHO.
Coltrane recommendations: (2) absolute musts...
1. Love Supreme - Elvin Jones will blow you away!
2. Giant Steps - Classic... B&F parodied the liner notes from this one
for "Katy Lied".
Joe
Here's an easy way out of Miles dilemma, and an opportunity to indulge a desire for Coltrane: Try and dig up anything by Miles and his stellar quintet/sextet which recorded between '55 and '59, most notably, Kind of Blue, 'Round About Midnight, or Milestones. That way you get the added bonus of hearing alternately Bill Evans, Red Garland or Wyn Kelly as well as Cannonball Adderly. These have to be some of the all-time stellar jazz line-ups since Bird, Bud and Diz shared the stage.
StAl - wow, just posting to see it in the new form. GREAT!
Coltrane suggestions besides JoeMs: "My favorite things" and "The gentle side of..."
Lars
"Lush Life" (Prestige)
"Coltrane" (Prestige)
"Soultrane" (Prestige)
"Duke Ellington & John Coltrane" (Impulse)
"The JC Quartet: Ballads" (Impulse)
DrMu: 10-4. Yes, quite possible that DF was imagining that topography.
He, too, could have vacationed in that area while growing up (or maybe
he still does), given its proximity to his stomping grounds.
The place sounds like it contains some of the song's ingredients. Thanks.
beautiful survivor--no, you were right. it really is 14 pounds. and sorry, i didn't make that 'album side' thing very clear for you there. on 'lp friday,' we play actual lp's, and each participant, in turn, plays either the a- or b-side of an album of his own choice. i didn't really give you enough time to answer anyway, so my dan choice this past friday ended up being side a of 'pretzel logic.'
how about an a- or b-side choice for our next 'lp friday'?
edd--on the nose(i have one). do you have a whole album choice for me for next 'lp friday'? doesn't have to be dan, but i can't guarantee i'll have it.
peace,
rabbit
rabbit: What say we pick the -B- side of Aja for next time? Hope that clears up the confusion.
John Granatino: Love all the changes at your site! Welcome back - we've missed you!
Later, Beautiful Survivor
St. Al:
see you got my spirals to go on the page. Very nice. How did you get it to work?
i like traffic lights...i like traffic lights...i like traffic lights...that is what i said...
i like traffic lights...i like traffic lights...i like traffic lights...i like traffic lights...i like traffic lights...but not when they are red...
rudy
rudy: i helped him.
amanda
Wabbit - Yeah, how about "Aliens Ate My Buick" by Thomas Dolby.
"Quod Erat Demonstrandum, baby..."
"Whoa! You speak French!"
Edd
Wait a minute! I can't read the left end of anything with these spirals! Can the print get moved over by the graphics
whizzes (et tu, Rudy)?
Whoa! Get busy for a while and come back later to find that stuff has all changed around.
Mr Mu: It's about a mole a minute, assuming you used the correct density.
Clas: You are one fine advertisement for Sweden. So how many Swedish meatballs does it take to change a lightbulb?
Ruby: Fave lyrics, "are you crazy, are you high, or just an ordinary guy? Are you with me Doctor?"
What do you get when you cross chicken soup with a Swedish meatball?
Paul C.
Rubs: Regarding favorite lyrics---I think the song with the funniest lyrical content is Everything You Did...a guy gets home to find his woman(maybe his wife) in bed with another guy and then he gets turned on by hearing all the details of the encounter.
I think the song with the best (and most twisted) one liners has got to be Let George Do It.
-Try to design a postcard from your mind...
-Babies are ground up in the last big round-up(makes Don't Take Me Alive look like Sesame Street doesn't it?)
-Menthol, filter-tip dangling from your nether lip...
Thanks Edd Cote, Roy.Scam and the others who provided answers/opinions. I appreciate all the info.. No responses to the "Skunk" question...maybe it's better if we don't know this one.
San Fran Knight: I would recommend Oliver Nelson. The Blues And The Abstract Truth is a great album that
has excellent musicians such as Bill Evans, Roy Haynes, Eric Dolphy, Paul Chambers and Freddie Hubbard. And Jazz Snobzz would probably argue that you don't have a jazz collection unless you have Miles Davis's Kind Of Blue. Many people consider this to be the best jazz album of all time. John Coltrane does some nice solos on this album.
"Has your jagernaut reached my door?"
m.e.
Hey, DeeConBluz! You're right. Turn up the Eagles is p.d.f. Where I live, the houses are so close together, it doesn't matter. We all know each other's stuff.
CLAS: I was saying six in Swedish! And what do I get for my effort, huh? However, I think one can include six in a metric story. (Or is that sex?) Anyway, you can trust me on this one. I'm married to an engineer, you know.
Cowgirl&Pearl: Thanks for the pick-up advice! However, the guys around here will follow anything playful, so I would have to say it with a mournfully straight face. Practice, practice, practice...
Jamaican Dude?? Are you out there? Do you favor any lyrics?
ST.Al: do you have any favorite steely dan words?
PPpaul: are those lightbulb changing meatballs swimming in sour cream sauce? Please clarify if you want an accurate number :)
rubybaby
PPaul:
1.it depends on the weight of the one whoīs holding the bulb, stupid.
2. probably something like you
another swede
OK, Dan people,
I've been conversing with St Al, and he suggested to "Sign In".
So here it is :
After a couple of years in our collective conscious, 10 UK based
musicians have insanely come to the conclusion that full spiritual,
emotional and maybe "sexual" gratification can only be achieved
by regular reproduction!!!.
Reproduction of the legendary recordings of Steely Dan no-less.
To that end, we formed a tribute band of our own. Then ploughed
months and months of effort in until "cooked".
The point being "Nearly Dan" also have a web site i you'd care
to pay a visit: www.cqws.com/zone4/nearly-dan/nearly.htm
See ya later "Dansters"!!
A must listen: Duke Ellington's version of "East St. Louis Toodle-Loo"
A great record but, frankly, the piano parts aren't as good as the Dan's and Sir Duke didn't have access to such a pedal steel guitar ( Who plays that little chunk of 42nd Street country & western?)
Yes, the McDonald stuff is cool. I am quite a fan of the voice and I have seen him a few times live. The doobie Bros stuff is particularly good, but his own stuff is a tad mundane. still he does possess probably the finest voice in the business so we can't complain.
Yes, Coltrane. I shall acquire in due course.
2 world songs :K of the W and Any W. I don't really like either. Am I missing something here. Strangely enough, I think that both Gold Teeth 1 & 2 blow each of the previous songs off their respective albums. But this view is slightly contrarian. I have a suspiscion that it is the jazzer in me the makes me this way.
Anyone agree on the above tracks, or am I a tosser again.
laters pretzel poppy seeds
PPpaulCC; What do you get? You get something that is called PPpaulCC.
SanFransiscoKnight; Isīnt this funny? I also listened to Katy Lied the other night, and specially Bad Sneakers, and was also thinkin about Mc Donalds voice. I have not listened to that record for years. I think Bad Sneakers is my favou-steely song.
I think you should ceck out some records with Keith Jarret playing with Jan Garbarek and Palle Danielsson. I think my friend Lars can give you the name of some CDīs. And Nosecandy? Are you eating candy from youīre nose or what?
Mr BECKER and/or mr FAGEN, if you ever read this page, which I certainly hope you donīt, but if you read this, could you do me a small favour? 1978 - 79 I tried to get an interview with you. It was a hard up case, I ended up talking to an arrogant son of a mother, mr Larry Saulters at Front Line Management, Los Angeles. A rattlesnake. He said that you where in the studio and couldīnt give any interview at the moment. But I asked, I was stubborn, - OK, they are in the studio, but for gods sake, do they donīt go home at 5, eat dinner, and after that they could give me an interview? But the arrogant son denied me to get an interview, instead he sent me a pressrelease and some photos of you. Well, and now I come to this small little favour, if you meet him, will you please say hallo and tell him that everything is fine with me, I did the last downpayment on my phonebill two years ago and I got a phoneline again. But will you please learn mr Saulters to spell my name right? Itīs Clas Lundkvist not Scalf Kludnvisk. Thatīs all. Thanks pals.
MAXINE; Hi, nice to see you again. How is life going? I hope youīre doing fine.
Clas
PPaulCCC: A bit less I believe. 1 mole of oxygen gas at sealevel would occupy 22.4 liters of space.
. A 400 lb pony running at full speed could consume that much oxygen in one minute, but not a human.
Spur: 30 miles north of NYC was a picturesque area 30 years ago. What's it like now?
To Maxine: It was late last night so I forgot to say - yes, I've wondered where you were. I had no idea you were having such a rough time.
Here, you can borrow my *pal*, which is an old sweatshirt, faded and worn. (but it's very soft) Once, a long time ago, it was my only friend and I wore it everywhere. When it got too hot, I wrapped it around my waist. It got me through some very rough times. It's in a box now.
I've kinda missed ya' - I'm sure I'm not the only one.
ruby
MoRay, SF Knight, et al.: re YGT: many, many thanx, Roy the scammeister for unlocking this song for me! Gambling makes sense: this is a film noir encounter in a down-and-dirty, dangerous gambling hall, starts with a creepy deja-vu feeling in a guy down to the bottom of the barrel (Gold teeth rolling). But it's also about a failed, bitter love affair with s&m undertones--with, of course, Lady Luck in her beaded gown. You need her, but she tortures you with her fickleness, takes everything--and makes you like it. "You don't have to dance for me; I've seen you dance before"--he knows this game so well, but can't stop playing. The way he describes her is one of the most riveting lyrics in the song: "Your fortune is your roving eye, your mouthy legs, your gift for the runaround." Not mouth & legs; think about the image! Wow! Legs that say it all and more, and won't shut up! Think Tina Turner! Julia Roberts! Then, at the end, in harsh monosyllables, he says, "Dumb luck, my friend, won't suck me in this time"--but we're not ready to believe him.
I'm still clueless about the tobacco interlude; I tried to make it into a haiku, but there're too many syllables. And who the hell is Kathy Berberian? Another Bard music student? A roulade is "a quick succession of notes, properly as sung to one syllable" (OED)(forgive me, musicians, I'm not one).
Now, YGT II: to me, this is the reprise of a man who has lived twenty years in the two between the albums; been rolled and played a few times himself. But has come out with a little more perspective--YGT was a cynical vignette, but YGT II has become anthemic, in the company of "Sign In Stranger" and "Deacon Blues." Also more major nuances than YGT. Stars with a soaring observation of youth's exuberant mystery, maybe a reference to Burroughs, but could just as well be the Dharma Bums, hippies, or any counterculture. And with an eerily prescient "why do you tremble each time they pass by?" which could just as well describe any inner city street where a cruising car is a signal to take cover. Then goes on to take a detached view of the gamble: "Who are these strangers who pass through the door/who cover your action and go you one more?If you're feeling lucky you'd best not refuse/it's your game, the rules are your own--win or lose." He's no longer a victim in a drama but has become a rueful commentator on life's lessons--"the answer they reveal/life is unreal." The gold teeth image also evokes the barrels of them collected by the Nazis in the Holocaust--a gamble the Jews lost in a horrific way.
Ruby Baby, warm and wonderful, a late chime in to your favorite lyric request. But first, a story:
A few years ago, a local CD shop ran a promotion that if you could sing a lyric from a CD, you would get $2.00 off the purchase of that CD. I was informed of this special offer at the front of the check out line. They boy behind the register couldn't have been a whisker past 18 years old, and, even though I was purchasing the soundtrack to Searching for Bobby Fischer, which contains no lyrics, in honor of Katy Lied, which I had been listening to on the way to the store, I blurted out, in my best rendition of Bill Murray's Nick Wheels character imitating Donald Fagen, "Bad Sneakers and a Pina Colida, my friend, stompin' down the avenue by Radio City with a, transistor and a large sum of money to spend!" When the kids behind the counter said "Cool! Who sang that, Nirvana?", I couldn't bear to tell them that it was written 7 years before they were born! So I responded yes and rushed out of the store. Do you think that when I die, I'll be forced to listen to "Smells like Teen Spirit" over and over for infinity, as in Dante's Inferno?
in search of absloution . . .
eric
It is a sad day indeed for music lovers. Tony Williams, the great Jazz drummer and my personal favorite of all time, died Sunday. He was 51. Those of you who know the music of Miles Davis know that he started playing with Miles in 1964 at the age of seventeen. The work he did on "Four and More" and "Funny Valentine", from a concert in '64 *still* ranks as some of the most amazing drum work ever recorded, despite his tender age at the time.
I saw him in concert many times and have almost all his recordings as a leader and sideman.
This is a great loss to everyone who heard and loved him. May he rest in peace.
survivor--sounds great. i can hear the whines of my pathetic, anti-dan buddies now--'what, ANOTHER dan album side?' that gives me a great excuse to fit in one more dan disc for the evening. beautiful.
edd--would love to play it, if i only had it. i'll tell you what--i'll comb the lp bins at our local half-price bookstore. but that sounds like quite a lot to inflict on my poor, unsuspecting friends. do you think they'll be able to handle it?
peace,
rabbit
Mr. Moo: You have not carefully read my post. The difference between 10exp23 and 10exp22 is a factor of ten, which on that scale is "about" the same! So are you the kind who will be exactly wrong or approximately correct?
Clas and Lars: What is it with Swedes and four letter names? Sheesh! Well, anyway guys, H. L. S. & B.
Ruby: Things must have gotten better to put that pal in the box, very good, you deserve it!
Listened to Aja a while ago, that song continues to impress me! What must they have been doing when they came up with that one!
In the corner of my eye,
Paul C.
Tony Williams-R.I.P.
Steve Cox,
Sorry to hear of Mr. Wiliams demise. A truly gifted artist indeed. What
happened to him? He just recently (11/96) released "Wilderness" with guests
Pat Metheny, Herbie Hancock and Stanley Clarke. He also played on
a jazz related television special in January and appeared to be in fine
spirits and in fine health.
His work with Miles Davis' second great quintet was his finest work
IMHO. I especially like "The Plugged Nickle" sessions from '65...
Miles, Herbie, Ron Carter and Tony at the top of their respective
forms. A true innovator... A major loss for music.
I was just listening to "Peg" on AIA--and it's just not the same without Mike McDonald. I agree w/ SF Knight et. al; he was great with the Doobies, but the best with the Dan.
Tony Williams was superlative. Sorry he's gone.
Maxine--please let everyone know how you're doing. Your last post was a while ago and you didn't sound so hot. Sign in, OK?
DrMu: Don't really know what it's like up there. I'd hope that
it's "alive and fe-elin' fine", but the cobalt of development
may have contaminated it.
SFK: How about some "Brazilian Marching Powder?"
JOE MURTHA: Re: Tony Williams, the report I heard was that he was in the hospital for emergency gall bladder , then died of a heart attack while on the operating table.
A true innovator has fallen. There will never be another drummer like him.
StAl & John G, I like the new look!
Someone asked about Brian Sweet a while ago, and I spoke to him the other day. He's putting out a booklet on Steely Dan for Omnibus Press in Europe, which has done similar things with Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Dylan, and the Beatles. The booklet, as he explains, is pretty much for the novice fan, and will include song interpretations and discussions on certain solos. He said that the information he will provide will basically be what D&W have said throughout the years, with very little input from Sweet himself. It should be out sometime this summer, but will be available only in Europe.
Concerning the revival of Metal Leg, as some people had mentioned above, Brian had asked me if I was interested in reviving the zine with him. Well, here's my take on that...Metal Leg was great in it's time because there was so little information about Steely Dan available. Of course now, that's all changed, and I don't see any need in starting it up at this point. With Walter's involvement on the internet, and all the websites, why get the information from the horse's ass when you can get it from the horses mouth? Besides, I have nothing to add but fluff anyway, right More A?
"celluloid bikers..."
oleander: I'm waitin' for Third Bardo to play its path before I take a
stab at YGT/II... but you go; all good.
Joe Murtha: As Steve suggests, his heart took its leave... shame. He
caught my eye laying the tempo for Jimi. Damn.
lovebob: sure wish I could join ya'll in SFO! one day...
Eric: Nice yarn. Generation fade gets us all, eh? I remember being
at a live music club in Indy around '82 -- during break, the DJ spun
Kid C, announcing the first person to come up with the title would
win a dbl-LP. No one took notice. I stepped up with the correct title and band, only to hear, "sorry, that's not it, but it looks like no one else even knows which band it is, so here." I happily walked away with the Heavy Metal soundtrack, thinking, thanks for the addition to
my DANish collection. Duh.
ALL: How 'bout HSThompson's Fear&Loathing In Las Vegas CD? I just
copped it USED -- amazing! I will wait to check it out as I travel
an alternate route(via the Big Hole) toward that timeless town in
two weeks/winks/weaks. Whoa, I dig Harry Dean Stanton.
bis spater
"feed 'er some hungry reggae"
Hm, so it will only be avaiable in Europe. Well I guess I will go downtown and buy an ex.
Clas
Damn.
I must say, I'm amazed at the apparent lack of remorse and regret about Mr. Williams from our GBook. I mean, musically speaking, in the 90's we've lost some biggies: Miles Davis, Aaron Copland, Leonard Bernstein immediately come to mind, and I'm sure I've missed a couple. Now Tony Williams wasn't Miles Davis, however, he was a part of Miles' 60's band that was so influential and important for jazz. He essentially kept time for Miles - in the 60's. Shit, man, if that isn't an incredible accomplishment, I'm not sure what is. Now, of course, I know that wasn't the only thing the cat did, but, being that Miles (and I'm sure Tony) had a great influence on Mssrs. Becker and Fagen, which give us what we all come he for, I think the cat deserves a little more respect.
To Tony Williams - a time traveler to our present - just stopped keepin' time, and will be remembered for a long time.
YGK
Hi all... things are getting better, slowly. Life has been a trip these past few months, but I think I'm getting back into some normalcy. Whatever that means.
I've also been musing over what Dan-related things I had to say (none for a while- the frustration!) but now I can compliment St.Al and Rudy on the new look! - good stuff.
Thanks Ruby, Clas and Oleander for your good wishes. I'll try not to be so much of a stranger.
Maxine
YGK -- you should be "amazed at the apparent lack of remorse and regret about Mr. Williams from our GBook" only if you assume that
all or most Gbookers reliably post the sum total of what they think and feel every day. This is a bad assumption; only a few Gbookers do that.
umm: given the history of the SD GBook, I had and remain to have high confidence in the collective braintrust here. So sue me.
No offense intended.
YGK
at the risk of resembling beavis and/or butthead....
"braintrust"... cool. i love that word. it cracked me up when i read a blockbuster music pamphlet and it called walter "half of the steely dan braintrust." 15 at the time, i thought, "what the hell is a braintrust, and why is walter only half of one?" anyway, i took to calling walter half a braintrust for about 6 months.
amanda
by the way, the word braintrust is not in my dictionary.
amanda
I read in the paper, a couple weeks ago, that David Bowie started marketing asset-backed bonds that will pay interest from royalties on some of his music (the asset being the songs). Apparently, he gets to collect $55 mil up front! I admit that I'm not very knowledgeable about these financial things, but couldn't WB & DF do likewise? They could erradicate the $700,000 debt in a New York heart-beat. Do you think they would consider such a thing?
I've noticed that way too many artists in the world make all the money after they're *gone from us*, which I think is rather ludicrous. Why shouldn't their work yield financial reward now, while they can benefit from it?
CLAS: What's your favorite SteelyDan lyrics? You're the one who started me thinking about it when you said we were all too soft to understand the *pain* in WBs songs <----I beg to differ. But you haven't told me which ones you like best. Spill it, dude!
And I thought you hated chicken soup. That IS what you said...I can always pour it over your head after I hit you with that pie.
What a cool shot that would make(do you have a Polaroid?) We could cheer up Maxine with it!
rubybaby
Ruby dear: what $700,000 debt?
YGK: maybe some of us haven't commented on Tony Williams because we feel he was tremendously overrated. At least I do. Too bad that he died, but overrated nonetheless. IMHO the whole jazz/SD connection is exaggerated. No doubt jazz was/is an influence on SD's music, and a big one, but it's clear to me that funk/R&B is at least as big an influence. The importance they place on the groove, and some comments they've made about influences like Sly Stone and George Clinton, would seem to bear this out.
That's what is so great about this board - everyone has their HO.
M glad you have yours...
Alright,
If Steely Dan releases a new album, do you think they will do a video for MTV? I really their liked "New Frontier" but they never play it on MTV anymore. I like Steely Dan better than No Doubt.
Ummm, yeah. What $700,000?
Could we please move away from the $700,000 question? I don't know
what's worse, the gullibility of Ruby, or the fact that the rest
of you can't figure out what she's talking about. Is this really
happening?
the clueless retards (ruby, et. al.) on the gb never cease to amaze/disappoint me with their bountiful stupidity. and I always thought we dan fans were all a semi-intelligent bunch...I'm proven wrong with every day with some of the posts here. I bet Dolly, the cloned sheep is clued in enough to get the 700,000 deal...
p.s. clas, you are a worthless fuck. please kill yourself, okay?
YGK: I agree about the near total disregard of the contributions to drumming and to music made by Tony Williams. OVERRATED? That's absurd. Tony just never got the press that some other bigger names got. His SOUND was instantly identifiable. How many drummers can you say that about?
Elvin, Blakey, B. Purdie, Cobham, and who else? Buddy Rich maybe. I think that Jazz is absolutely the single biggest influence on w+d. The cover of the Nightfly album was the coolest nod to that influence.
It just bothers me that great artists can pass away and hardly anyone takes notice. Just further indication of a culturally bereft age.
Sorry for the soapbox...I won't bug ya with anymore Tony Williams eulogizing.
Does anyone else feel like this "book" is cyclical? Just a-wonderin'.
YGK: Do you really "have high confidence in the collective braintrust here"? I think that last weekend's posts (bestiality, death threats) really shattered any visions of a collective goodwill atmosphere IMHO. I am glad you haven't lost your faith.................yet.
R.I.P. T.
The pre-maturely jaded,
m.e.
RUBYBABY;I read, at the time Fagen was promoting "The Nightfly", that as he was making the recordings he always turned around to ask Walter (he was not there) when it came to the lyrics. And I think mr Becker is the mainman of lyrics in the Steelysongs. And if you ask me for some favou lyrics I think the first one who comes to mind is from Beckers soloCD. "Down At The Bottom", maybe because I, me myself has been down at/on the bottom in my life. And for the same reason Becker was. 2; Bad Sneakers, I donīt no hell what it is about but the the lyrics thrills my mind. 3. Kid Charlemange.
I never said that I didīnt like Chicken Soup did I? If I did you must remember I had fever that day. Come on, take it with you.
I think we can cheer Maxine up without taking a picture of the thing. You could just tell her, in detail, how I looked. But promise me Ruby, never tell Maxine what happened to me and my damn dog the other day. We are not going to cheer her up that much are we? (I found my glasses but I canīt use them anymore).
No Pride Left,
Clas
SteveC: you wouldn't be Steve Case would you? Yours is a soapbox I would gladly stand around - and I appreciate your verif. Culturally bereft age. That sounds a wee bit harsh, however, there is justification for your comment.
moray eel: in my EXPERIENCE, I have mostly had postive "brainvibes" here at the GBook, but then again, I see the glass as half full.
An aside, from The 16 Ways to Become a Barfly, "#12. Drink half your beer, then tell your bartender it's flat. They'll bring you a full one. Repeat."
I missed the bestiality and death threats (I will check the archive, tho), the insest, wife-swapping and group sex that goes on here apparently. But I do (and must) remain supremely confident in the human mind - wherever it is.
YGK
...and another thing.
Edd - you are way cool. I checked out your analysis of "Deacon", and I gotta say that I greatly appreciate your kind of head. I never took it to that level, but always got lost on the intro and that change in meter when I was counting. I printed it out and am gonna take it to my rec studio and analyze with my Producer - as a matter of fact, we were listening to it the other day, studying the dynamics and subtlety of those DAMN HORNS - I mean, shite, how beautiful can a piece of music be? Your contribution to this page is a wonderful example of what can happen when people use their heads while appreciating beauty.
Based on the comments this past weekend, I'm glad I missed those pix. Unfortunately, that is something that we have to deal with in cyber-society. And then move on.
Maxine: hope things are cool - miss "seeing" you - call if you like, y'know wqw.wuw.wtpu
YGK
On the Tony Williams as overrated drummer issue:
Stanley Crouch was told by The New York Daily News to please refrain
from boring everyone with yet another article dedicated to an unknown
jazz artist. This was in reference to his recent article about the
death of one of jazz's most influencial drummers, Tony Williams.
Overrated? Even with all of his accomplishments, Tony lived, worked
and then died in relative obscurity.
As far as D&W having influences aside from jazz well, I couldn't
agree more. Certainly Funk and R&B are major influences. The New York
Rock and Soul Review sessions are a testiment to that. Rock & Roll and
Folk Music (i.e. Dylan) are also major influences. I would say however that
overall, the most obvious and most ubiquitous musical framework
for SD songs has been derived from jazz. The chord structures, the attitude,
the musicianship, the solos... The short list of Fagen's musical
influences (as stated by Fagen himself) includes Mingus, Miles, Rollins, Oliver Nelson, Clifford
Brown and Monk... I don't think it's possible to exaggerate the jazz/SD
connection. They are inexorably tied to one another.
Just my $0.02,
Joe
Dear Joe Murtha, when I said overrated, I meant by critics like Stanley Crouch, not by the general populace. Personally, I think D&W probably lost interest in Miles sometime after Kind of Blue, when he started veering off in other directions. They were probably much more influenced by his '50s work than by the '60s fusion stuff with Williams.
BTW, I think Ruby may have been fooled into taking Walter's joke memos to Craig Fruin from last summer's tour too literally. One of those memos mentioned running up a $700K debt from the tour.
C'mon, gang.
We ALL KNOW C'mon - send it in.
Mssrs. Becker and Fagen
Steely Dan
PO Box 700
Radio City Station
New York, NY 10125
*-excerpted from a "Radio Performance" by Joe Frank
Let's have a Certs commercial: Dan is a jazz group! Dan is a rock group! Wait, it's two.....two...two groups in one.
Personally, I'd say that if you only listen to "Aja" and never go back and blow out the speakers with "My Old School" ,then you're missing at least half the fun.
The boys publically admit their well earned reverence for Monk, Coltraine, Parker; but , as a guy on the rock and roll side of the braintrust (boss word), I think they owe just as much to Little Richard and Jerry Lee.
just a curiosity... what do the danfans in these parts think of the dave matthews band?
amanda
they bite the big one
da: I like DMB, mostly because they blend rock with a kind of eclectic, horns-goin'-crazy sound... their songs seem to have that thread within them that makes them inarguably recognizable as a DMB song. DM's vocal style probably contributes most to that, of course, but it's still a sound I enjoy.
Ruby/Clas: you've both got me thoroughly confused, but thanks for the attempt to cheer me up. (I'm going away for the weekend, that should help, I think.)
YGK: thnx, will remember that.
Maxine
re: YGK
Thanks for the appreciative words. I trust you printed out the figure 1 graphic and understand the significance of the "|..." markings? That's a habit I picked up from a drummer friend of mine.
For those who might've been confused, the vertical line (|) simply marks the first beat of the measure and the dots (...) represent each beat for the rest of the measure.
Edd
Edd-ucation Man: It was quite fun checking out the tune while looking at your notes, and your writing is quite eloquent and worthy of its own individual praise.
UmmUhh wrote -
"YGK -- you should be "amazed at the apparent lack of remorse and
regret about Mr.
Williams from our GBook" only if you assume that all or most
Gbookers reliably post the
sum total of what they think and feel every day. This is a bad
assumption; only a few
Gbookers do that."
SteveC - Did you get this?
EddCote - Enough with the interpretations! You're really beginning
to ruin the songs for me. But, I have an idea...seeing that you
have so many faithful disciples, maybe you should start charging a
fee for your copious knowledge. This would relieve the rest of the
uneducated populace from having to muddle through your ramblings.
Edd, you're the king of the board as far as you know.
In the famous words of Rodney:
Can't we all just enjoy the music?
Hey Whiner! I may be wrong, but I feel that UmmUhh is either age or experience challenged, IMHO.
Now you know that you don't have to go and read Edd's enlightened remarks - he ACKtually gave us the option, which was considerate of those who aren't into the analysis. There are tons of library books, dude, but only YOU can make the choice to read 'em. Now if Edd wants to charge for them, well, uh, I guess my credit card would (still) be maxed-out.
But face it - I can't hide it no longer. (in AA style)
Hi, my name's YGK, and
I.......I...........I............
I'm an Edd Fan!!
There!
WhiningStranger: Yeah, I think I got it; but then I don't post to the GB with the same regularity that I used ta....... EDD: You go boy. I like yer take on the tunes; but then again I'm cursed with being a musician as well. You know how it is...We listen with slightly different ears than the average fans, and the Dan stuff is fascinating to examine theoretically (as well as digging it viscerally).....YGK: Nope, not Steve Case, but you are welcome to share any soapbox with me.
As to Miles "veering off in other directions" well... He's the only artist I can think of who singlehandedly changed the face of Jazz not once, but three times. He was never content to stay where he was musically.
Speaking of fallen musicians that never got their props...Don Grolnick also passed in '96
Greetings fellow Dan Fans. I'm amazed (and delighted) there are so many here. I feel I'm "home at last."
Re: Dan fans opinion of Dave Mathews Band
The best thing about Dave Mathews is that when you play the song "34" on you CD player, the track indicator says 34 and it's only the eleventh song.
Where else can you see RodneyKing, Miles Davis, and Dave Mathews mentioned in consecutive entries?
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@homenearchicago Mon Feb 10 04:09:16 PST 1997
wooly
bully Mon Feb 10 09:09:10 PST 1997
YourGoldKeith
.. Mon Feb 10 10:56:00 PST 1997
Marv_Albert
YESSSS@NBC.com Mon Feb 10 11:22:38 PST 1997
Ruby
where it's @ Mon Feb 10 11:26:07 PST 1997
DeeConBluz
@risingwith the sunset to cover every game Mon Feb 10 11:39:02 PST 1997
mWerld
@call and response center Mon Feb 10 11:51:37 PST 1997
Lonnie and Johnny
in their playrooms Mon Feb 10 11:54:12 PST 1997
YGK
.. Mon Feb 10 12:08:28 PST 1997
babs
u.s.a. Mon Feb 10 12:40:40 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Mon Feb 10 12:50:58 PST 1997
FrozenRainMaker
here&there Mon Feb 10 14:17:34 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Mon Feb 10 14:19:38 PST 1997
from Ruby
to the workingClas Mon Feb 10 15:15:25 PST 1997
eddcote
@ultranet.com Mon Feb 10 15:37:57 PST 1997
Bodacious Cowgirl
sick of winter Mon Feb 10 18:57:20 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Mon Feb 10 19:06:45 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
Rmoats6211@aol.com Mon Feb 10 20:51:08 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
Rmoats6211@aol.com Mon Feb 10 20:51:58 PST 1997
clas
clas going home@ Mon Feb 10 21:59:21 PST 1997
San Francisco Knight
jim@businessmonitor.co.uk Tue Feb 11 01:23:24 PST 1997
Julian Moseley
100642.3336@compuserve.com Tue Feb 11 02:15:53 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Tue Feb 11 04:08:35 PST 1997
fez
bermuda@magicnet.net Tue Feb 11 05:37:40 PST 1997
JM
JGMurtha@aol.com Tue Feb 11 06:44:57 PST 1997
Not My Nancy
Present Tue Feb 11 08:58:26 PST 1997
The San Francisco Knight
jim@businessmonitor.co.uk Tue Feb 11 10:03:25 PST 1997
Ruby
from the nursing home@last Tue Feb 11 11:12:14 PST 1997
DrMu
I'mjustgrowingold Tue Feb 11 11:32:43 PST 1997
rubybaby
i will go undersea by rail Tue Feb 11 11:36:54 PST 1997
another fan
in california Tue Feb 11 12:33:06 PST 1997
Dismayed
In California Tue Feb 11 13:00:05 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Tue Feb 11 14:48:46 PST 1997
Fella
@Radio City Tue Feb 11 15:10:05 PST 1997
Doc Kelly
mdkelly@midusa.net Tue Feb 11 17:12:21 PST 1997
Q
St.Pete@last Tue Feb 11 17:46:30 PST 1997
Pete
petefogel@asan.com Tue Feb 11 18:46:40 PST 1997
PPPaulCCC
Knooster@Home.to.stay Tue Feb 11 20:03:14 PST 1997
See_above
whocares Tue Feb 11 21:07:33 PST 1997
Tim Reardon
treardon@junction.net Wed Feb 12 00:03:49 PST 1997
razorboy
duh... Wed Feb 12 03:48:45 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Wed Feb 12 04:09:19 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Wed Feb 12 05:09:39 PST 1997
Fella
@ Radio City Wed Feb 12 07:22:54 PST 1997
Lonnie and Johnny
in their playrooms Wed Feb 12 07:40:51 PST 1997
Justice
Stumped@The_Fogel Wed Feb 12 08:38:49 PST 1997
Amanda
da@primenet.com Wed Feb 12 09:31:34 PST 1997
Jon
@ his yellow stripe Wed Feb 12 09:51:22 PST 1997
rabbit
nissho@neosoft.com Wed Feb 12 11:03:11 PST 1997
SCREWED
@Bleak Street Wed Feb 12 13:20:51 PST 1997
YGK
.. Wed Feb 12 13:21:45 PST 1997
Pete
still not stumped Wed Feb 12 13:30:01 PST 1997
Fella
@ Radio City Wed Feb 12 13:33:49 PST 1997
The
you know Wed Feb 12 16:58:14 PST 1997
Q
QGB@AOL.blahblahblah Wed Feb 12 17:53:12 PST 1997
RubyBaby
kanga1776@aol.com Wed Feb 12 18:39:27 PST 1997
Amanda
da@primenet.com Wed Feb 12 20:03:21 PST 1997
PPPaulCCC
Knooster@aol.com Wed Feb 12 20:34:45 PST 1997
PPPaulCCC
Knoo.. Wed Feb 12 20:42:31 PST 1997
Doc Kelly
Here at the dude ranch Wed Feb 12 21:40:28 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Thu Feb 13 03:10:43 PST 1997
bob tedde
MrSquonk@cts.com Thu Feb 13 03:28:05 PST 1997
The San Francisco Knight
jim@businessmonitor.co.uk Thu Feb 13 05:06:29 PST 1997
Joe Murtha
JGMurtha@aol.com Thu Feb 13 07:15:36 PST 1997
YGK
.. Thu Feb 13 08:40:01 PST 1997
Q
QGB@AOL.COM Thu Feb 13 09:27:49 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
old-cow Thu Feb 13 09:30:11 PST 1997
Lars
@work Thu Feb 13 12:24:44 PST 1997
JM
JGMurtha@aol.com Thu Feb 13 13:04:16 PST 1997
JM
JGMurtha@aol.com Thu Feb 13 13:04:32 PST 1997
mWorld
khillman@lightspeed.net Thu Feb 13 16:22:37 PST 1997
Bodacious Cowgirl
starting a 4-day weekend! Yahoo! Thu Feb 13 16:43:22 PST 1997
Bodacious Cowgirl
again Thu Feb 13 16:49:19 PST 1997
Aaron Sontag
rickan19@idt.net Thu Feb 13 19:07:20 PST 1997
Aaron Sontag
rickan19@idt.net Thu Feb 13 19:07:32 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
rmoats6211@aol.com Sun Feb 16 12:46:42 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
rmoats6211@aol.com Sun Feb 16 12:47:06 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
computer-dunce Sun Feb 16 12:59:16 PST 1997
(Good King) Richard
rlongman@dca.gov.au Sun Feb 16 17:46:39 PST 1997
Amanda
da@primenet.com Sun Feb 16 22:47:18 PST 1997
Moray Eel
Laurel Canyon Police Station Sun Feb 16 23:51:15 PST 1997
The San Francisco Knight
jim@businessmonitor.co.uk Mon Feb 17 00:46:30 PST 1997
The Jack of Dick
in a Random Universe Mon Feb 17 00:59:24 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Mon Feb 17 04:23:09 PST 1997
Edd
duh... Mon Feb 17 04:25:14 PST 1997
fezzy
bermuda@magicnet.net Mon Feb 17 06:12:30 PST 1997
Pepe
Far Arcturus Mon Feb 17 10:13:43 PST 1997
Doc Kelly
Here at the dude ranch Mon Feb 17 10:14:46 PST 1997
Lonnie and Johnny
in their playrooms Mon Feb 17 14:15:53 PST 1997
CyberChris
babelfish7@aol.com Mon Feb 17 15:38:20 PST 1997
Earthbound
danfan@expert.cc.purdue.edu Mon Feb 17 16:39:39 PST 1997
San Fran Knight
jim@businessmonitor.co.uk Tue Feb 18 04:40:44 PST 1997
fez
bermuda@magicnet.net Tue Feb 18 04:59:06 PST 1997
Howard Palmer
envirocon@icon.co.za Tue Feb 18 05:17:49 PST 1997
chain
male Tue Feb 18 05:46:32 PST 1997
JM
JGMurtha@aol.com Tue Feb 18 07:42:53 PST 1997
Kid
bigg@swipnet.se Tue Feb 18 08:17:10 PST 1997
whining stranger
with time to kill Tue Feb 18 09:17:48 PST 1997
YGK
.. Tue Feb 18 09:35:34 PST 1997
San Francisco Knight
jim@businessmonitor.co.uk Tue Feb 18 10:07:19 PST 1997
San Francisco Knight
jim@businessmonitor.co.uk Tue Feb 18 10:47:18 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Tue Feb 18 17:57:01 PST 1997
moray eel
at the counter Tue Feb 18 18:51:14 PST 1997
moray eel
whoops Tue Feb 18 18:55:12 PST 1997
moray eel
damn Tue Feb 18 19:03:39 PST 1997
San Francisco Knight
jim@businessmonitor.co.uk Wed Feb 19 00:33:44 PST 1997
ÔÅÄÁF
ÔÅÄÁF Wed Feb 19 00:38:42 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Wed Feb 19 03:07:17 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Wed Feb 19 03:44:59 PST 1997
San Francisco Knight
jim@businessmonitor.co.uk Wed Feb 19 04:37:31 PST 1997
SDWebDrone
@bounceback hell Wed Feb 19 05:23:46 PST 1997
ÔÅÄÁF
ÔÅÄÁF Wed Feb 19 05:44:17 PST 1997
Zeke
spike@eatel.net Wed Feb 19 06:07:06 PST 1997
Kinky
@ The EddCote Fan Club Wed Feb 19 10:36:37 PST 1997
Clean Willy
ClnWilly@aol.com Wed Feb 19 11:27:08 PST 1997
YGK
.. Wed Feb 19 11:40:07 PST 1997
Earthbound
danfan@expert.cc.purdue.edu Wed Feb 19 11:42:30 PST 1997
moray eel
where neon bends in daylight sky Wed Feb 19 11:43:25 PST 1997
ambrose
in yellow peril Wed Feb 19 12:30:09 PST 1997
majordude
frontier@rsabbs.com Wed Feb 19 15:42:08 PST 1997
Bodacious Cowgirl
sayres@prodigy.net Wed Feb 19 19:17:54 PST 1997
moray eel
the platform Wed Feb 19 23:42:46 PST 1997
Pete Fogel
with a new game to liven up things a bit Thu Feb 20 00:39:28 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Thu Feb 20 03:56:20 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Thu Feb 20 04:07:18 PST 1997
Let's Not Forget
@ The Little People Thu Feb 20 05:30:14 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Thu Feb 20 07:50:25 PST 1997
DrMu
redefinethefirstarrangementagain Thu Feb 20 08:17:35 PST 1997
Joe Murtha
JGMurtha@aol.com Thu Feb 20 10:02:25 PST 1997
Lucky Henry
wide@wakeandburning Thu Feb 20 10:09:05 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Thu Feb 20 10:24:45 PST 1997
YGK
.. Thu Feb 20 10:58:44 PST 1997
ygk
inspellHell Thu Feb 20 11:00:35 PST 1997
YGK
.. Thu Feb 20 11:13:23 PST 1997
Pete
petefogel@asan.com Thu Feb 20 11:24:36 PST 1997
FrozenRainMaker
u6b88@cc.keele.ac.uk Thu Feb 20 11:38:34 PST 1997
Mr Crowley
crowley@crazy.com Thu Feb 20 11:48:12 PST 1997
DrMu
TTHBOA Thu Feb 20 12:28:52 PST 1997
DrMu
typo Thu Feb 20 12:32:29 PST 1997
R.O.C.K.
in the U.S.A. Thu Feb 20 13:59:19 PST 1997
Amanda
da@primenet.com Thu Feb 20 14:51:26 PST 1997
ED BEATTY
EDBEATTY@PE.NET Thu Feb 20 15:25:50 PST 1997
ed beatty
edbeatty@pe.net Thu Feb 20 15:27:12 PST 1997
rabbit
nissho@neosoft.com Thu Feb 20 17:29:46 PST 1997
Beautiful Survivor
In.case.you're.wondering.it's.alive.and.well Thu Feb 20 17:42:58 PST 1997
Hank Silvers
mooreje@fast.net Thu Feb 20 18:06:13 PST 1997
Phoebe Caufield/Zooey
I don't have one, I'm on my friend's computer Thu Feb 20 23:55:00 PST 1997
moray eel
on the dunes Fri Feb 21 00:01:10 PST 1997
moray eel
Mount Belzoni Fri Feb 21 00:46:41 PST 1997
Pete
petefogel@asan.com Fri Feb 21 01:01:04 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Fri Feb 21 03:55:37 PST 1997
Lars
@work Fri Feb 21 07:33:46 PST 1997
pearl
still in the quarter Fri Feb 21 08:49:47 PST 1997
YourGoldKeith
., Fri Feb 21 08:57:27 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
uneducated-guess Fri Feb 21 09:22:35 PST 1997
Dandy Gamma Chi
@ I'm Just Growing Old.Com Fri Feb 21 10:47:36 PST 1997
rabbit
nissho@neosoft.com Fri Feb 21 12:11:12 PST 1997
Phil Filestrio
@The Games Fri Feb 21 12:32:54 PST 1997
Phoebe/Zooey
The goof in Dallas with no e-mail address Fri Feb 21 13:37:03 PST 1997
jon
@ his yellowstripe Fri Feb 21 13:39:20 PST 1997
Ruby
trapped in TheNightfly (oh,well!) Fri Feb 21 16:14:22 PST 1997
Beautiful Survivor
Where.the.hell.am.I Fri Feb 21 16:19:24 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Fri Feb 21 16:58:37 PST 1997
Edd again
amazed@the.stuff.stuck.in.my.head Fri Feb 21 17:03:12 PST 1997
Bodacious Cowgal
skatin'backwards@thespeedoflight Fri Feb 21 19:32:26 PST 1997
Bodacious Cowgirl
in hypercyberspace Fri Feb 21 21:20:47 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Sat Feb 22 02:41:14 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Sat Feb 22 02:51:23 PST 1997
Clas and Lena
clas and lena@work Sat Feb 22 05:25:12 PST 1997
pearl
still in the quarter Sat Feb 22 08:41:09 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
rmoats6211@aol.com Sat Feb 22 10:43:32 PST 1997
spur
Nightfly exam Sat Feb 22 11:26:07 PST 1997
balinese
cowboy Sat Feb 22 12:52:16 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Sat Feb 22 13:07:22 PST 1997
spur
Nightfly note Sat Feb 22 13:58:50 PST 1997
Bodacious Cowgirl
about to vomit Sat Feb 22 15:51:11 PST 1997
bob tedde
MrSquonk@cts.com Sat Feb 22 16:00:38 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Sat Feb 22 16:05:15 PST 1997
moray eel
puke central Sat Feb 22 20:09:18 PST 1997
Phil Filestrio
@Holy Shit Sun Feb 23 03:03:29 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Sun Feb 23 04:17:28 PST 1997
Edd
edd Sun Feb 23 16:42:17 PST 1997
John Granatino
jgranati@projo.com Sun Feb 23 18:24:13 PST 1997
John Granatino
"I only know I must obey this feeling I can't explain away."
StAlphonzo
stalfnzo@seanet.com Sun Feb 23 20:24:54 PST 1997
bob tedde
MrSquonk@cts.com Mon Feb 24 01:55:19 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
thewaythe prose playthegame Mon Feb 24 03:54:46 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Mon Feb 24 04:08:51 PST 1997
DeeConBluz
@Flood Central Mon Feb 24 04:10:18 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Mon Feb 24 04:31:50 PST 1997
Maxine
kouvolo@cmu.edu Mon Feb 24 06:54:15 PST 1997
oleander
happy2bhere Mon Feb 24 07:37:33 PST 1997
San Francisco Knight
jim@businessmonitor.co.uk Mon Feb 24 07:40:29 PST 1997
San Francisco Knight
jim@businessmonitor.co.uk Mon Feb 24 07:49:18 PST 1997
DrMu
'tilthesuncomesthroughtheskylight Mon Feb 24 08:18:00 PST 1997
StAl
justa@tweakin'andatunnin'.com Mon Feb 24 09:19:30 PST 1997
babs
usa Mon Feb 24 09:20:39 PST 1997
Joe Murtha
JGMurtha@aol.com Mon Feb 24 10:07:14 PST 1997
Jon
@hisyellowstripe Mon Feb 24 12:14:47 PST 1997
Lars
@work Mon Feb 24 12:25:47 PST 1997
a citizen
at the 'Trane Station Mon Feb 24 13:05:40 PST 1997
huh?
wha? Mon Feb 24 13:07:37 PST 1997
spur
Late line Mon Feb 24 14:28:27 PST 1997
rabbit
nissho@neosoft.com Mon Feb 24 14:48:42 PST 1997
Beautiful Survivor
Try.again.tomorrow Mon Feb 24 15:51:26 PST 1997
rudy
awakens for a bit, then nods off again Mon Feb 24 16:41:21 PST 1997
Amanda
da@primenet.com Mon Feb 24 17:13:02 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Mon Feb 24 17:40:23 PST 1997
oleander
on call Mon Feb 24 20:01:03 PST 1997
PPpaulCCC
Knooster@aol.com Mon Feb 24 21:11:40 PST 1997
moray eel
Barrytown Mon Feb 24 22:30:36 PST 1997
Ruby
kanga1776@aol.com Mon Feb 24 22:53:56 PST 1997
Lars
@work Tue Feb 25 03:36:47 PST 1997
Rob Rolph
rob.rolph@the.co.uk Tue Feb 25 03:56:52 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
dansoundalikes Tue Feb 25 04:04:16 PST 1997
San Francisco Knight
jim@businessmonitor.co.uk Tue Feb 25 04:21:07 PST 1997
Clas
clas@the corner of the eastern sky Tue Feb 25 04:43:04 PST 1997
DrMu
nevergoingbacktomyoldschool Tue Feb 25 07:59:33 PST 1997
ruby
up in the @tic Tue Feb 25 09:31:25 PST 1997
oleander
off call Tue Feb 25 12:05:25 PST 1997
eric
youngmanwentwest Tue Feb 25 13:59:52 PST 1997
Steve Cox
A440@voy.net Tue Feb 25 14:47:07 PST 1997
rabbit
nissho@neosoft.com Tue Feb 25 19:56:25 PST 1997
PPpaulCC
Knoo@the.helm.again Tue Feb 25 20:34:07 PST 1997
jon
@hisyellowstripe Wed Feb 26 05:05:59 PST 1997
Joe Murtha
JGMurtha@aol.com Wed Feb 26 07:07:53 PST 1997
oleander
herenow Wed Feb 26 11:10:23 PST 1997
spur
Paradise unknown Wed Feb 26 11:48:13 PST 1997
YourGoldKeith
.. Wed Feb 26 11:52:39 PST 1997
SteveC
a.loss Wed Feb 26 12:11:34 PST 1997
Pete
petefogel@asan.com Wed Feb 26 15:15:26 PST 1997
Earthbound
danfan@expert.cc.purdue.com Wed Feb 26 17:36:41 PST 1997
clas
clas@work Thu Feb 27 04:06:18 PST 1997
YGK
.. Thu Feb 27 06:45:52 PST 1997
Maxine
they think I'm ok, or so they say... Thu Feb 27 06:53:25 PST 1997
umm
uhh Thu Feb 27 07:45:25 PST 1997
YGK
.. Thu Feb 27 07:57:02 PST 1997
Amanda
da@primenet.com Thu Feb 27 09:17:58 PST 1997
Amanda
da@primenet.com Thu Feb 27 09:19:22 PST 1997
ruby
wouldUBinRloversstory Thu Feb 27 09:32:56 PST 1997
pearl
still in the quarter Thu Feb 27 13:01:40 PST 1997
YGK
.. Thu Feb 27 13:24:56 PST 1997
Steely
Ben Thu Feb 27 14:35:52 PST 1997
Sho' Me The Money
@The Custerdome Thu Feb 27 18:00:04 PST 1997
You try to figure
but you're way too dumb Thu Feb 27 18:50:29 PST 1997
just another
freak Thu Feb 27 19:31:12 PST 1997
SteveC
stillstunned Thu Feb 27 19:56:52 PST 1997
moray eel
wine dark sea Thu Feb 27 23:19:53 PST 1997
CLAS
CLAS@WORK Fri Feb 28 00:00:38 PST 1997
YourGoldKeith
.. Fri Feb 28 06:24:24 PST 1997
YGK
.. Fri Feb 28 06:55:45 PST 1997
Joe Murtha
JGMurtha@aol.com Fri Feb 28 07:23:36 PST 1997
Pearl
still in the quarter Fri Feb 28 08:44:08 PST 1997
YGK
.. Fri Feb 28 09:19:51 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
american.pie Fri Feb 28 09:23:55 PST 1997
Amanda
da@primenet.com Fri Feb 28 09:34:08 PST 1997
dan fan
in these parts Fri Feb 28 09:59:29 PST 1997
Maxine
kouvolo@cmu.edu Fri Feb 28 10:16:19 PST 1997
Edd Cote
eddcote@ultranet.com Fri Feb 28 11:43:34 PST 1997
YGK
.. Fri Feb 28 12:36:28 PST 1997
a whining stranger
with time to kill Fri Feb 28 13:22:14 PST 1997
YGK
.. Fri Feb 28 13:31:48 PST 1997
SteveC
fearsome excavation Fri Feb 28 13:47:41 PST 1997
Door people sleeping
They've got the Steely Dan T-shirts Fri Feb 28 16:47:28 PST 1997
Roy.Scam
@Aunts-marching Fri Feb 28 17:08:08 PST 1997
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