Name: Schwinn
Billings
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 23:06:20
Comments:
Slim
Didn't I cause you to endure expensive dental work a few years back? My knuckles still hurt--especially when I have to brake the big bike completely for a custom's check.
That is nothing like the pain and agony you can expect from the flower child you just dissed. But don't expect it right away. Her modus is to peruse the archives and claim anything half original as her own, i.e., equating BFF with Freddie Mercury and Todd Rundgren. Why do those comparisons sound familiar? Pursue the criminal and discover the crime...
The world is full of wannabes who dance in and out of the fray, hungry for an autograph so they can learn to forge it. That's why I keep to the backroads and keep my front wheel turned toward Lisa. She can spot a liar a mile away and still loves me from afar. That's a lot different than sucker-punching a friend when they're not looking.
Tattoo in My Shoe
Schwinn Healey
Name: Secret Asian Man
r@w like sushi
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 22:26:52
Comments:
Anyone: What is the Asian/Steely Dan connection? I noticed that it's a theme used in more than one song.
Oleander: I'd like to take you out sometime. Fishloaf is a long-time favorite of mine.
Signed,
S.A.M.
Name: Slimmy, Born Again Christian
fishloaf
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 21:19:55
Comments:
Oleander: You were once a Bitch with a capital "B" but now you have evolved into a bitch with a tiny frontal consonant. How can I accept a tape from an "erudanite" who doesn't even know the DF/WB connection on Apogee to begin with? Have I really been reading you with interest, "Old Timer"? Somebody slap my face and send me to a time before Hollywood. There's a huge difference between the Writing on the Wall and the Scribbling on the Guest Book. You'll never get it and I don't perform plastic surgery. Hope that record player of yours gets out of the shop soon so you can honor your commitments.
Name: Geena
with a gun
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 20:11:07
Comments:
it's amazing! I just finished reading that article in Rolling Stone and here i am in the GB looking around to see what's going on and we're talking about it! Simply amazing!
I'm so sick and tired of these whiny little spoon-fed kids in the music biz today. They want, want, want and haven't the slightest clue that working hard and maintaning good public relations is the key to get, get, get. This is just one of the many reasons I left that industry a few years ago.
They knew what they were getting into when they signed that contract. They knew they weren't going to make any money by using someone else's music after their record company asked for permission to use "Black Cow". So what the hell are they bitchin' about? And, excuse me...that money did not come out of their pocket. Some stupid little whiny record exec fronted that money for them and now they have to work just a little bit harder to pay it back..poor babies. Oleander is right...they don't have a clue about the Dan...
Sorry for all the kvetching (sp?), but i just had to speak my mind.
File this under "one hit wonders"
Name: oleander
a d&o leer
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 20:03:18
Comments:
Sli-two m's-y--Grovel a little more, you swine. Actually, the turntable is in the shop and due to return soon. I'll be glad to tape it for you and for anyone else who wants it--(now I have to hope that it has weathered the last two decades and several moves intact). To be continued.
Roy--I DO know that this is not the Ben Folds 5 page, but maj just gave us a nice Steely tie-in. This week's "New Yorker" gives them a feature AND pic in "Night Life": "Though there's nothing particularly original about this likable trio from Chapel Hill, its ability to channel 'square' piano-driven pop a la old Billy Joel and Elton John (and, to be fair, Todd Rundgren and Freddie Mercury on their pianocentric classics) and marry it to a post-punk sensibility makes the group stand out from its techno and guitar-powered coevals like a black-and-white thumb. Singer Ben Folds is a major talent: an excellent singer and a songwriter of earthly pain." Oh well. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm (in Carolina)...? My dream of seeing them here is melting away.
As for the whining rappers, couldn't you just see Messrs. F & B up there on the stage with these guys a la Puff Daddy and his puppet Sting? Feh. They just don't have a clue about the Dan.
lisa--I'm consulting the stars...and feeling that itch again....I promise to come if Kinky & YGK arm-wrestle and minah does that thing on the table.
Name: Irving Azoff
Hotel@California.com
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 18:25:13
Comments:
Hey Peter and Lord:
Helpful music biz hint # 1:
If you write your own material, you don't have to pay anyone else for the publishing rights.
Quit your whining or I'm going to sick my boy Tyson on you
Name: Tyrone Skimkins
# 24601
Location: WATTS, CA
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 16:03:14
Comments:
What's wrong with you Donald and Walter? That $105.000 could of went to there crack habit.Shame on you Mr. Steely Dan
Name: sit mutha fucka
Spike said do the right thang
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 15:55:40
Comments:
To Peter (With a) GunzGET RAP JACK AND DO IT AGAIN!!
Name: Rappers blast Becker & Fagen in
new issue of Rolling Stone!
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 15:05:16
Comments:
Lord Tariq and Peter Gunz blast Becker and Fagen in New issue of Rolling Stone:
"Deja Vu" features a sample of Steely Dan's "Black Cow." "It cost $105,000," moans Gunz. Says Tariq (Born Sean Hamilton), "We don't make a dime off that record. They took all the publishing, everything. It's a lack of respect for hip-hop, man. They're amazing musicians, but this turned me off to them. We wanted to go on MTV and have them play, and we would come in with the rap. They won't even write us back. If you have that much of my money, at least call if you don't want to do it."
Name: DINDO OROSA
DKMO0123@MSN.COM
Location: MANILA, PHILIPPINES
Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 at 12:15:24
Comments:
This is just so F....ng great just being here....
Name: Slimy...I mean Slimmy
mustanotagottalotta
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 23:51:36
Comments:
Oleander--please buy a turntable IMMEDIATELY and make me a copy of Apogee! I've been looking for that disc for 5 years! I bought one at a record show in '95 and it was scratched in all the wrong places. Really, all I want is the Becker / Fagen composition, "Rapunzel", but the complete LP would be a gas. I used to play that wax on my Sunday night Jazz show 20 YEARS AGO! (Also Joe Beck, Dixie Dregs, Lenny White, Joe Sample, Steve Kahn, Jeff Lorber Fusion, Stanley Clarke, Al Dimeola, etc., etc., etc.)
Really, just mail me the disc and I'll make my own copy. We can synchronize our watches and I will in turn mail you a cassette copy of ANYTHING you can't find on CD. Really. I have 10,000 albums from all those years as a radio guy and my platter-spinner is one of the best.
Finally--I'm glad we're back on speaking terms. I promise to never "Black Cow" you ever again.
Son of William
Name: oleander
do you wanna take me to
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 20:34:05
Comments:
So yesterday it was "Funkytown" by Lipps Inc. Anyone want to try a night in my id?
Doc Mu et al.--Doc, that's how I see the plot too. But there's something more complicated in there; I just can't figure it out--for example, as Brenda said, who's they? And so what that they saw your face? I link this song thematically with "Dirty Work" and "Razor Boy." Girl trouble and girl troubled. And though I tend to be a wordy yin to Dave88's musical yang, the mesh of lyrics, tune, and arrangement is particularly perfect.
Ruby--I'll keep my eyes open for those shoes. Danmoments--heard YOU at the grocery store the other night.
Slimy--tho' I swore I'd never speak to you again, I loved that line about Mr. Fagen's music.
Not My--Blow, baby, blow!
Roy--who??
Had a treat Wed.--dusting off the lp's and putting them back on the shelf, found "Apogee," which I'd forgotten we had. When we bought it, we had no idea of the Fagen/Becker connection. Where's the damn turntable when you need it?
Name: Mose the fireman
.
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 19:37:56
Comments:
Have you ever seen a squank's tears?
Name: Mose the fireman
.
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 19:37:25
Comments:
Well, lookit mine!
Name: Midnight Bruiser
dirty deeds done gr@tis
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 19:03:52
Comments:
DDD: Of course I will respect your wishes. Does this count as contact? (insert one of those forbidden apologies here)
You upset me immensely, whether or not that was your intention. An officer was kind enough to call me back and let me know you were okay. He informed me that i was the brunt of a joke. If that indeed is the scenario, well...I don't wish you any misfortune. We discussed the concept of karma more than once. Mine is kitchen clean.
Name: Geena
Western World
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 17:50:56
Comments:
Not My Nancy: You came in loud and clear, to
me anyway...it's nice to finally see a townie
writing in...what part of Boston are you from?
I'm from Hyde Park...
Name: Not My Nancy
tomandmimi@bigfoot.com
Location: Boston, USA
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 11:46:13
Comments:
Hi friends. It's been a while since I posted, but it's been a while since I had a new thought (new to me anyway). Here goes:
I heard Aja this morning on WXRV--The River (a station that sprinkles Dan into its playlist with admirable frequency, amid its usual Lilith fare). I paid particular attention to Wayne Shorter's solo this time, and thought about my opportunity to see Shorter about a year ago at the Blue Note.
Shorter's compositions and solos struck me as almost puritanical about avoiding blues modality. He swings and struts and funks about, doing lots of R&B without the "B." It's an interesting approach, not particularly my cuppa joe, but capable of producing some interesting moods not found in his contemporaries' work.
And this morning, I realized the same can be said about Aja. It's a sharp divergence from the Dan's usual love of the blues--lots of whole-tone dissonances, but not many minor thirds. I have always found Aja to be very emotionally compelling in a hard-to-describe way. Kind of soothing (in the beginning, with those maj9 piano chords), then kind of frightening in a fateful, existential way (with that those dense, plangent chords that we know so well from the background to Gadd's drum solo).
I wouldn't be surprised if the musical idea behind Aja was to avoid blue notes. It would be in character with other compositional inspirations they've had (see Fagen on the Homespun tape about jazz/rock composition talking about Chain Lightening, Peg, etc.). If so, maybe they selected Shorter as the ideal no-blue-notes musician.
Am I making sense to any of my brothers and sisters?
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 09:04:15
Comments:
Ruby - Yes, heavy on the primal style of footwear. Deep down, shoes can really make a statement. I sometimes think that I am a closet foot freak.
Re your "moment when attitude sticks to you," is all about fundamental values - it takes a while to form them, but are the basis of what a person is - somewhere, sometime, someone challenges those issues with their lack of respect or sensitivity, and over time, it's becomes a drain. To me, it all has to do about energy. Sooner or later, as mentioned in your "Black Cow" dialogue, cutting loose a situation or relationship is sometimes best for everyone.
A bientot (sorry, my keyboard cannot make the necessary punctuations to make the French saluation more realistic).
Name: DrMu
jml2621@acs.tamu.edu
Location: Hoy Hoy Bomb,
Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 at 08:39:26
Comments:
I've been trying to score a copy of the GlenGarry GlenRoss soundtrack, but the usual outlets have come up short. If there are any suggestions or if you would like to arrange a trade e-me please.
Razor/Roy/Brenda/Ruby: Black Cow does seem to me about a guy on the outside looking in. He adores/is obsessed with a flighty girl with a self-destructuve emotional streak. She ends up with the wrong type of guy, becomes broken hearted, then tries to soothe/console herself by downing those Black Cows and emptying her soul to the narrator. The narrator's relationship is platonic, but he wants much more. He asks her to "break away" from this rut she's in. By the end of the song, he finally sees the futility of this relationship, downs his own Black Cow, decides to "break away" from this fruitless relationship with the gal and slinks home.
Joe Sample's electric piano over the bas line just gives me chills.
Name: RubyBaby
96 tears - I mean shoes
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 17:47:34
Comments:
RazorBoy: I never thought of Black Cow as a "purely platonic" song before, but I'll try. I can relate to the line "I won't cry anymore while you run around..." For me, it's a healthy letting go thing. Ironically, I've found the moment that attitude becomes clear, they stick to ya like glue. Why is that?I'm still looking for those black spikes with red soles. I NEED those primal shoes.
never trading in my letgo thing.
rb
Name: ..
..
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 15:15:37
Comments:
YGK: you're 'scused
Name: YGK
..
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 11:28:26
Comments:
'Scuse me, but did someone recently post that Bonnie Raitt was appearing at a JAZZFEST!!??
She rocks! But jazz? don'tthinkso.
ygk
Name: Roy.Scam
over.there.in.grammytown
Location: they.do.things, very strange
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 09:06:37
Comments:
The State of the Grammys, 1998:
1)They couldn't keep idiots from running up on stage and disrupting the show; it happened twice.
2)The audience was jabbering during Dylan's performance.
3)The presentors were self conscious (or unconscious), and the scripted dialogue was bad, even by award show standards.
4)One category had two versions of the same song nominated.
5)Lifetime Achievement Awards were handed out without giving any insight or even meaningful glimpses of the artists' work.
6)The two best albums of the year, IMHO, were completely overlooked in the nominating process. (I've already mentioned this, but it seems to still be annoying me.)
7)Bob Dylan is starting to look like Tiny Tim. (the Buddy Holly speech was good though)
8)One of the female performers looked like she had Buckwheat in a headlock.
9)One of the presentors told us that Roy Orbison STILL has a unique voice.
10)The list of dumb categories appears to grow every year. (Best liner notes?, Best remix?, Best historical record?)Leonard Pinth Garnell would have loved it.
RS
Name: lisa
on the ro@d again
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 07:59:38
Comments:
dear fez of the north: just when you thought it was safe to get out of the shower...
i deeply regret your inability to attend the said smokefest... watch that you don't develop a nasty case of cabin fever...you wouldn't believe the stack of towels i had prepared for you! however, i promised back in january that i would use my next gratuitous traveling opportunity to come to williamsburg...it's looking like the weekend of april 17-19th will be the target dates...will you be available for a throwdown? i will have my friend samantha in tow...she is a fledgling convert to sd that requires an intensive training session...three days of the dan, surrounded by true fanatics should cement her newly found religion...she will never revert back to the barren state
of pre-dandom...i'm hoping the inimitable mr. roy scam will be available too...roy? i have some new attachments for my adamantium skeleton you just gotta see! perhaps we can convince oleander to come along? we may need to be revived after a disco deluxe evening of partying...i also have a friend in the low rent district that expressed an interest in meeting us...you still in, rasputin? lastly...in order to add a touch of uptown to our gathering, we require the presence of a rich and randy playboy such as kinky to complete the set...how 'bout it kink?"yes we're gonna have a wingding..."
(a pre-summer smoker)
Name: Peg
totzke@usa.net
Location: San Diego, CA
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 07:52:59
Comments:
MinorWhirled: Sorry 'bout that. I found out about the 21st the same way you did -- by reading the Guestbook. Can you cancel?
Name: Zeke
Mawdeegrawhangover
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 07:24:23
Comments:
I forgot something: I thought Bob Dylan was excellent at the grammys. it's good to see him doing well again. His story about
Buddie H. was cool. I'm sure Don and Walt had the same affect
on other musicians. What the hell was this guy with no shirt on
dancing like a fool, doing on stage with Bob?I'm also glad for Paula Cole. She is great with Peter Gabriel on
his live video.outtaheya.
Z.
Name: Zeke
Mawdeegrawhangover
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 06:38:54
Comments:
Docta: Yes, your right! Bill and his ol' lady was a big success
@ MG this year. Seems he was EVERYWHERE! That Monica
was there too. Man, is she hot. I setup camp on Bourbon St.
Friday and soaked it all in until Tuesday. I just kept saying,
"man, is this a great country or what"Don't forget about the Jazz Fest. If you plan on attending, now
is the time to get your reservations down. This year includes,
M. Mcdoobie and his doobie friends, Tom, Pat and many originals, Jimmy Boofay, Bonnie Rait and many more. I'll keep
you posted. IMHO, this would be a GREAT time for the Dan.
I've been to the fest for too many years, and believe me the Dan
would fit like a glove. One stage last year played IGY between sets and the crowd went nuts!Gotta go.
Z.
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 05:51:28
Comments:
Roy Scam - You nailed me good on the plutonic vs platonic - I had a momentary lack of attentiveness (policeman gave me a ticket for that infraction when I nudged a guy in a minor fender bender) . Slimmy's musings kind of made sense, since Fagen and Becker seemed fixated on the far east a few times in "Aja." It doesn't matter how many times I hear any of SD's material, it sounds better and better.
Name: Roy.Scam
Grammy-tically incorrect
Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 05:02:08
Comments:
Razor: Good words on Black Cow, but I noticed that you opted for the spelling "plutonic". I personnally try to avoid any relationship that involves radioactivity (or interplanetary travel).
Now someone please convince me that all those albums nominated for Grammys are better than Ben Folds' and Michael Penn's albums from last year....and that those Hall of Fame inductees are better than Steely Dan. Am I suffering from audial dementia?
RS
Name: Black Cow-Lick
dippitydo
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 23:49:27
Comments:
Buzz
Why call 'em out when Hollywood proves you can round 'em up?
Name: Buzz
amutualdroning
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 23:43:33
Comments:
Donald Fagen's music, "Alternate universe meets present reality head-on and neither is insured"? Call out the unusual suspects!
Name: Clark Clockworth
ticktock
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 20:36:58
Comments:
Goodbye Rasputin. Hey, can you get me discount on heating oil?
Name: mad mona
@l@rmed by your words
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 18:38:37
Comments:
rasputin...come and talk to me...please, H.
mona
Name: rasputin
timetomeetthemaker
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 18:24:55
Comments:
goodbye.
Name: Slimmy, Lost in Space
jusushutyumouf
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 17:31:49
Comments:
I have no idea what Brenda is talking about but then I've never owned a secret decoder ring. I agree that Aja should be considered one of the greatest albums of all time but I thought the song, Black Cow, referred to a Hindu suicide concoction similar to a sharp, Hari-Kari sword. "Shiva Unsheathed", if you will. I admit my knowledge of geography is tested by this time-tripping space vamp, but isn't THIS the theme of much of DF's material? Alternate universe meets present reality head-on and neither is insured?
Off to the Kelsey GrammysSlim
Name: mWorld
khillman@lightspeed.net
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 15:27:12
Comments:
maj©: Yeah, no problem, took that off the 'Walk It Like You Talk It' CD - I use it as a shut down sound. I also lifted the Jew's Harp sounds off of there and use 'em in the Windows scheme for when a program performs an illegal function...anybody who wants these e-me, I'll send 'em to you, pretty small files...
Lovesbob: Bummer, you guys finally play a Saturday and I'm already committed to see Milt Jackson and Oscar Peterson in SF...
Peg:What's up? I'm off your mailing list?
Black Cow Discussion: Most interesting thing on the book in recent memory...Brenda Revisited, I liked that 00:55:41 Feb. 24th post...
StAl:Nice pages...I believe the maj© will be contacting you for a list of Petri dish suppliers in the greater Seattle area. And did you see your local climbers on the Everest special on Nova last night?
mW
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 13:58:37
Comments:
My favorite part of Black Cow is musical. It's the way the bass tempo is changed ever so slightly for only a few beats after the last the last full chorus is completed -- after the last full "drink your big black cow and get out of here", then the vamp kicks in. So outrageous!! It only happens for a few seconds, the bass line loosens up, then goes back to its regular pattern. God damn, I need some *real* music theory instruction!!!
On the BFF and Dan similarity: I was listening the XPN in Philly the other day and they played a BFF song. Then there was this "7 second delay" (my curiousity piqued) and magically, the piano intro to My Old School kicked off the next song. nice combination and the comparison couldn't be clearer after hearing these tunes back to back.
BTW -- everything I said about the Hall of Shame restaurant was true.
Minah: thanks for the tomatoes, or is that tom-ah-toes?
maj©
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@commmpmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 09:50:42
Comments:
Brenda - Re: Black Cow - To me, the song conjures up the kind of relationship that many of us have with one person in our lives, who, in the early stages, stimulates a desire to become linked with romantically, but never gets beyond plutonic, for whatever reason. Nonetheless, a loyal frienship develops, and the person gets involved with other people, or situations, but continually comes back to that special friend, who listens to all the issues that continually trip him/her up. Finally, after hearing another litany of woe, the friend with the strong shoulder gets weary of being used or unappreciated.
That song is a jewel, on an album that has no equal.
Name: Bob Tedde
MrSquonk@cts.com
Location: sd, CA USA
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 at 02:48:41
Comments:
Howdy! Long time no post. I feel Like Rip Van W. Only recognize a few old regulars, and I notice there's a new Razor Boy in town. What happened to the Fogel?
Anyway, file me under "You only call us when you need something"
but I thought someone somewhere might like to know that The Steely Damned are performing on March 21 at (you guessed it ) the Fabulous Catamaran Resort Hotel in Mission Beach.Showtime is 9pm-1:30Am. Cover will most likely be $10. for mo info call either li'l 'ol me at The Rockola 24hr Hotline (619) 558-1966 or The Catamaran at (619) 488-1081lovebob
ps. nice to see 'Da Book' still doin' so well. Kudos St. Al
Name: The Return of Brenda
Mingling
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 21:52:41
Comments:
Well, I believe I have finally found my home at last! What the hell is this place, anyway? Roy Scam? Oleander? Suddenly my Christian name seems so...Brendalesque. I am new to this century and desperately need guidance. Buck has blasted his way through far too many Walker Percy matinees for my taste and I'm really a simple "allegory of the cave" girl, myself. So while Ming is busy setting up the "hoops" for the archery finals, please allow my dizzy, time-twisted brain a few more comments.
Roy, yes, all of DF's tunes project the same theme: Boy sings about girl. Girl likes song. Boy fucks-up and has to write another song to sing. Girl becomes tougher and more distant while waiting. Now do you understand my relationship with Ming? By the way, Buck is a big fan of WB and has decided to call his newest weapon, "Whack". I fear the suitors in my house are in for a long day of thumping but I could be wrong. Those long, thin boxes could be full of root beer and coca-cola. Yeah, and a squadron of Ming's Monkeys might fly out of my butt!
I'm a hard sell I guess. Keep trying. These time contortions are demanding fistfulls of Midol PM.
Which way is West?
John Carter's Ex
Name: Shocked in
NYC
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 20:42:31
Comments:
Irving Azoff is now managing Mike Tyson??!!!??!!
Name: The New Priest
yuk yuk
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 20:28:36
Comments:
A new priest at his first mass was so nervous he could hardly
speak. After mass he asked the monsignor how he had done. The
monsignor replied, "When I am worried about getting nervous on the pulpit, I put a glass of vodka next to the water glass. If I
start to get nervous, I take a sip." So the next Sunday he took
the monsignor's advice.At the beginning of the sermon, he got nervous and took a
drink. He proceeded to talk up a storm. Upon return to his
office after mass, he found the following note on his door:1. Sip the Vodka, don't gulp.
2. There are 10 commandments, not 12.
3. There are 12 disciples, not 10.
4. Jesus was consecrated, not constipated.
5. Jacob wagered his donkey, he did not bet his ass.
6. We do not refer to Jesus Christ as the late J.C.
7. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are not referred to as Daddy,
Junior, and Spook.
8. David slew Goliath, he did not kick the shit out of him.
9. When David was hit by a rock and knocked off his donkey,
don't say he was stoned off his ass.
10. We do not refer to the cross as the Big T!
11. When Jesus broke the bread at the Last Supper he said, "Take
this and eat it, for it is my body", he did not say, "Eat
me."
12. The Virgin Mary is not referred to as the, "Mary with the
Cherry."
13. The recommended grace before a meal is not: "Rub-A-dub-dub,
thanks for the grub, yeah God."
14. Next Sunday there will be a taffy-pulling contest at St.
Peter's, not a peter-pulling contest at St. Taffy's.
Name: oleander
speak LOUD, I can't hear you
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 20:25:58
Comments:
St. Al--Thanks for the interviews. Lots of laughs.
John H, Clas--Despite my slow ear (cf. Slow Hand) (shades of the stick click), I can sort of hear it. I love "Speak Low." What a gorgeous tune.
The part of "Black Cow" I really like is the overlapping readings in the second verse. You can read it "You should know how all the pros play the game: you change your name. Like a gangster on the run, you will stagger homeward to your precious one," or "You should know how all the pros play the game. You change your name like a gangster on the run. You will stagger homeward...." Feels different each way. The what-is-a-black-cow issue has come up. Someone looked it up in a compendium of mixed drinks and came up dry. Where I grew up, it was a root beer float--odd drink for someone with remedies at hand. Maybe it just sounded good. I also like the progression of the choruses from "I can't cry anymore" to "I don't care anymore." Reminds me of the progression of choruses in "Junkie Girl."
Does anyone else wake up in the morning with songs booming in your mind, as if you're walking into a party that's in full swing inside your head? On my trip it was "Any World" and "Boston Rag," and the last few days BFF's "Smoke" and "Here at the WW." So I've been wondering about this lately, and Sunday morning the 3-year-old woke up, rolled over, and whispered, "Back, Jack, don't do it again." In tune.
Name: StAlphonzo
stalfnzo@seanet.com
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 19:02:00
Comments:
Hey now!
Wanted to let everyone know about all the new things happening on this web site. First we have the Steely Dan Cookbook:
http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/recipes/
Definitely under major construction. Anyone out there have a good Grapefruit Wine or Cherry wine recipe? How about your personal favorite? E-mail me and we'll make sure it gets posted.
Next, I've added a bunch of Real Audio files to the sounds and interviews page:
http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/sounds/sounds.html
More interviews taken from the Words and Music series. Currently Walter Becker's interview given for the release of 11 Tracks Of Whack is available for download. I should have Donald's Kamikiriad inteview completed within the next few days.
Last, I've added more links to the cool links page:
http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/other_dan/links.html
I'm not sure what the motivation has been for all this activity? Actually I do...My profound dislike of the Television, and the fact that I can't read.....
StAl
Name: Sunny
@stoney.trace
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 16:23:06
Comments:
Clas-- It's a beautiful, sunny day here in North Carolina and romance is in the air. Why don't you close your eyes, open your mind and breathe in along with me? You sure would feel better with a little Sunny on your face.
S.
Name: Damon Runyon
@ghost of christmas past
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 13:04:39
Comments:
Hey Dionne Warwicke: ..."I see a gray aura hovering over the entity that is Steely Dan... the list of the dead reads...
Jimmy Hodder, Jeff Porcaro, Victor Feldman, the engineer that erased 'The Second Arrangement', ......"...
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 10:32:27
Comments:
Re: Hotel Atop the Bellevue in Philadelphia. I mention it as a "must play" location because of a number of things: first, it's a classy joint.
Second, it sits "atop" the Bellevue Hotel, some 30 floors up. From there, Walter and Donald can look down on everyone. I think they'd like that, don't you?
Third, the Bellevue is infamous for being the location where Legionnaires Disease was unleashed oh-so-many-years-ago. Remember when all those conventioneers died at the hotel. Becker jokes abound from this place.
I can hear it now: "Dear Craig: You have done it again. No, it's not the construction vehicles that bother me, it's the constant whirl (hi, minah) of the emergency personnel in the hallways trying to clear the dead."
Fourth, and I can speak from experience cause I used to have an office in the Bellevue, two steps outside the rear entrance is a strip bar called "The Office". Easy on -Easy off.
Dollars in hand,
maj©
Name: John Henry
records galore
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 06:44:34
Comments:
oleadner, I think what Clas is referring to on Glamor Profession is that DF once said the bridge on Glamor Profession ("hollywood I know your middle name" is a take on Weill's 'Speak Low".
hey and you guys who are analyzing Black Cow, you sound like you are sure DF wrote it as opposed to WB. why??
Name: Roy.Scam
wrong.again.black.cow.breath
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 05:31:05
Comments:
Return to Brenda Revisited: Re-11TOW and Black Cow. Your opinions are inventive, original, and well stated. I still haven't found one I agree with. Was DF also talking about betraying himself in Reelin', My Old School, Dr. Wu? Even geniuses suffer from old fashioned girl problems.
SFK: Welcome back. How's the Steely Baby? During your absence, we discussed Nightfly, Kama, 11TOW, and whether or not Kinky actually lives in New York City.
Ole--BF5 cooked. Opened w/Eddie Walker, encored w/Smoke and Uncle Walter. My son got to talk to BF and Robert Sledge.
Bellvue. Isn't that a psychiatric hospital? The kind of place where you'd stare out at the frozen rain and get paranoid and fantasize about being back on the street with a large sum of money, and wonder when they're gonna' send you home?
RS
Name: Brenda Revisited
address still unknown
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 00:55:41
Comments:
The evil Emperor Ming has lost me in the GB so I will answer a question while Buck is recharging the Solar Disruption unit.
Black Cow is about a super-chocolatey Shirley Temple. A loss of innocence hidden in bitter-sweetness. Donald's not singin' about a woman who left him. He's singing about the times he failed his own test and became just another beverage on the soda shop shingle. But failure is gain. Mr. Fagen second guesses himself and answers his own questions with every subsequent verse. Who was "high"? What was a "crying disgrace"? Who's face did "they" see and who is "they"? I have only one more thing to say before Ming draws a bead: "Quick Buck! In the corner of your eye!"
Your Old Pal,Brenda, Princess of Mizar
Name: clas
c@w
Location: watertown,
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 at 00:38:37
Comments:
Hi Ole, well, if you can't hear it I can't do anything about it. It's the chord-progressions. Not the melody. Ripped right off from mr Weill.
Roy, thanks for the advice. It's time for some new music.
San Fran, hi, good to see you again. How's the little girl?
C ...walking the dog and watching Cop Land...
Name: oleander
topanga windows
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 21:53:31
Comments:
Raze--Her ruby slippers, of course. For atmosphere, they HAVE to play the Thomas Wolfe Auditorium in the Asheville Civic Center. It has mediocre acoustics at best, but it's in MY atmosphere.
YGK--Oh, well. Sorry about the last-minute e. Yes, we'll try again, perhaps at an upcoming Dan concert?
Roy--Oooh, you're just trying to make me jealous! BFF in Va Beach? You dog! Give us highlights! Re Randy C--I know Spirit's come up in the GB before--I saw them at the U of Md. once, and was a fond fan. This summer, in Michigan, I saw a bunch of their CD's, bought a couple, and listened to them again--very fresh, innocent in a way, and a real treat. I thought Randy C. was a terrific guitarist. I also recently picked up an lp of Mr. C's which I will listen to as soon as the turntable gets fixed.
Clas dollink--I HAVE been listening to the songs of Mr. Weill, who incidentally came to the US to live after being from Europe for a while, but I can't figure out how "Glamour Profession" comes in.
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 18:43:34
Comments:
Re: The Bellevue Ballroom being a must play venue for SD - Is it atmosphere (a special ingredient) or accoustic merit that would dictate the ultimate place to hear our heroes play? If atmosphere were paramount, then a club like the El Mocombo in Toronto or a choice from New York or L.A. (I don't know any of them) would be the ultimate. Would Carnegie Hall or some other renowed concert hall, offering great accoustics and also allow the audience to be intimate with the band and vice versa be prefered? Or do my 44 odd years make me appear like an old fart, instead of suggesting a funkier house than the aforementioned? How was their sound when they appeared outdoors? All you "guest bookers" who were able to catch them on the last tour, torture me with some highlights.
Ruby Baby, what shoes would you where to a Dan concert?
Name: PLUS&MINUS
completely.irregular
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 18:02:53
Comments:
SEE, I TOLD YOU SO.
It seems that our beloved Walter befriended a one Mr. Randy
California prior to the Randall's untimely demise. I would have
never guessed that Becker boy would be up to something like
this, I'm just glad it wasn't Donald. Of course, could he be
next to fall to ill times at the side of this jazz man?p.s. Did Randy drown? Or did some kind of seamonster get him?
Name: Dionne Warwick
@ The Psychic Friends Network
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 17:32:54
Comments:
Professor: I don't recall Walter Becker being a 'Friend' so-to-speak. We at the Network are very interested in knowing how Mr. Becker was able to predict the untimely death of one Randy California, what? three years prior? Afterall, we just make this shit up. Please have Mr. B contact Georgia, myself, or our newest celeb clairvoyant, Fran Tarkenton, so we can consider him for membership. Our 1-900 number has been disconnected due to the recent Chapter 11 proceedings, but I assure you, we will be up and running again in no time. Wow, this could be great!That's what Friends are for...
DW
Name: Prof. Stephen Dan Esq.
stevev@jps.net
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 16:08:43
Comments:
re: Randy California....he was indeed a good friend of Walter's and according to Brian Sweet the person who taught Becker the guitar as teenagers in Queens (Kaweens).....also he appears to be the subject of One of the 11 tracks: Surf/And Or Die.....Randy was a big surfer and tragically died last year in Hawaii...he was of course leader of the an inspired late '60's group Spirit along with his step dad .......
bitchin and moaning: re: NY Times coverage of Steely...ever since they got color pics they seem more like People magazine...like all the established media they fail to see the significance of Steely Dan's legacy....led by Rolling Stone and all those corporate FM dj's (who still play Steve Miller like HE was a freat artist of the '70's) Steely Dan for the most part is remembered as a quirky and weird but not overly important rock band.....frig 'em all!
Name: PLUS&MINUS
crazy,sane@alltimes
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 14:43:58
Comments:
Go and visit some of your friends that you never knew you had
at, www.tcnj.edu/~ellisles/BipolarPlanet/index.html
See, you do have friends, and not all of them want to hurt you all of the time just some of the time but never on mondays especially if it is raining and the barometric pressure is hovering around the 29.65 mark and the effects of El Nino~ are
of the lesser extremity in the west coast states. Of course, some
of your friends are not really your friends and merely portray
themselves to be friends so as to prepare for the inevitable attack that will happen when you least expect it due to the fact that you are with your friends and those are the times when you let your guard down due to the fact that you are friends. Do I make myself clearly clouded?
Name: YGK
..
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 14:06:04
Comments:
Oleander: I got your mail too late - Garfield Place was about 14 blocks away - in what is known as the North Slope - really not that far though. Sorry we missed each other, but maybe next time we can with better planning.
Dan-Related - If one perused the New York Times Magazine yesterday, you may read an article on music, the old, 'big' albums, and why todays music is so fractious. Also, you would've seen a side view of some old LP's, many of which were Dylan, but one of which was Jay And The Americans. The article spoke at length of Dylan's "Time Out of Mind", but dammit, not even a mention of the Dan, only an indirect reference by way of a picture of the sidebar of a JATA album.
ygk
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 13:11:43
Comments:
Speck: I like the sound of that, a Hall of Shame restaurant named, Countdown to Ecstasy, here's why. Think of the cruel joke when people would be ordering and eating(with a smile) menu items like: Steely Dan I and Steely Dan II (for the ones who can handle it ALL) and Soul Ram.
FYI in the Philadelphia area: In mid-March at the Ballroom atop the Bellevue: Larry Carlton, Stanley Clarke, and others. Will check for complete listing. This is a place where the Dan HAS to play.
maj©
Name: J-man
john.stanich@personalogospsykologi.se
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 12:23:22
Comments:
To K-BRUCE
Web yourself over to
pages.prodigy.com/sdresource/for some comments re lyrics re Black Cow. (It's near the end of the page.)
Name: DrMu
seeing double
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 09:16:13
Comments:
Sorry! How the f*** did that happen?!
Name: DrMu
Tangentially Dam
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 09:13:00
Comments:
Ruy: Speaking of Live, I picked up Erykah Badu's Live album follow-up to Baduizm and it's quite good, preferable to said Baduizm, which is nominated for a Granny..er Grammy. The recording has a luscious-sounding backup fusion-type band (drums, bass, keys, back-up singers) which communicates a nice blend of R&B and jazz. The sound is superb (kudos to the engineers) and EB feeds off the audience well (too well in parts where some of her yaking with the audience was in dire need of being edited out). Her voice sounds great, a rich blend of Billie Holiday, Phoebe Snow, and Deborah Berg (lead singer from I 2 I). A little thin on the high end, but she her voice has this real trumpet-like quality which kinda turns the performance from a 3 to 4 peice band. You might check that out.
You might check out Diana Krall, too even though her style of jazz doesn't have much to do with Dan. Hooooey, Mama!! She Looks and sounds great!! I'm going to have to pick her up after I save a few more piasters!
Zeke" I hear that "show us your t..." is not enough any longer at Marty Grass. "Presidential acts" are now expected in exchange for pearls.
Name: DrMu
Tangentially Dam
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 09:12:37
Comments:
Ruy: Speaking of Live, I picked up Erykah Badu's Live album follow-up to Baduizm and it's quite good, preferable to said Baduizm, which is nominated for a Granny..er Grammy. The recording has a luscious-sounding backup fusion-type band (drums, bass, keys, back-up singers) which communicates a nice blend of R&B and jazz. The sound is superb (kudos to the engineers) and EB feeds off the audience well (too well in parts where some of her yaking with the audience was in dire need of being edited out). Her voice sounds great, a rich blend of Billie Holiday, Phoebe Snow, and Deborah Berg (lead singer from I 2 I). A little thin on the high end, but she her voice has this real trumpet-like quality which kinda turns the performance from a 3 to 4 peice band. You might check that out.
You might check out Diana Krall, too even though her style of jazz doesn't have much to do with Dan. Hooooey, Mama!! She Looks and sounds great!! I'm going to have to pick her up after I save a few more piasters!
Zeke" I hear that "show us your t..." is not enough any longer at Marty Grass. "Presidential acts" are now expected in exchange for pearls.
Name: San Francisco Knight
steelybabies@geocities.com
Location: London, UK
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 07:31:41
Comments:
Hello again guys.
I have been away for a while, but I hope that things are still the same!
Clas, are you well?
what about Roy, Ruby, Kinky and godd 'ole St Al????
Would one of you care to update me in a comical kinda way!
Many thanks.
Laters with heart growing fonder
SFK
Name: Roy.Scam
drowning.slowly
Va
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 05:22:51
Comments:
Clas: Re-BF5: Start by seeing them live in Virginia Beach tonight; that's their real strength, but the albums are great too. Assuming you've got some lame excuse for not getting to Dixie, then start with "Whatever and Ever Amen". If the opening songs, 'Angry Dwarf' and 'Fair' don't grab you, then turn in your soul and move to a warm climate.--They also, similarly to Steely Dan, have released some great tracks on the 'flip sides' of their singles that you can't get elsewhere.
BTW, last Friday was also the birthday of the late Randy California, supposedly a friend of Walter's, and a damn good musician that some leftover hippies remember. Aren't You Glad?
RS
Name: c
c@w
Location: x, x x
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 02:27:01
Comments:
11 TOW is a masterpiece!
Ben Folds Five, which CD is best to begin with?
Begin the Beguine, C.
Name: clas
c@w
Location: watertown,
Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 at 01:14:45
Comments:
Sunny; "Clas, I am young and romantic and a virgin to cyber chat." I am old and not romantic but still a virgin on cyber chat.
How Is Lisa? Say hi!Rune; hej, så du är från Norge? Oslo? Trondheim? Bergen? Ha det!
Ole Ander; Yes, Kurt Weill. Sorry to confuse you, he was not a US-man, from Europe. How should you know? Listen to Brecht/Weill-songs and you will hear that Glamour Prof. is Weill-music.
AJA; you do? I know I have been lazy on the emails lately. Give me some time, OK?
Roy Scam; I am not interested in sports, but did Sweden get any medails? I saw something about Silver, but I am not sure.
...back in the maze with lazy Lena... C.
Name: torque
you @sked for it
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 21:46:58
Comments:
hey bruce! its about sex.
Name: K-BRUCE
kebruce@awod.com
Location: , s.c. fFORGOT
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 18:16:26
Comments:
I CANT BELIEVE WITH ALL THIS TECH. THE ONLY THING
PEOPLE CAN FIND TO DO WITH IT IS SEX.
KEEP YOUR SEX AT HOME ( IF THERE'S ANY THERE )
OR AT YOUR FAV. STRIP BAR.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE SONG
BLACK COW IS ABOUT
Name: J-man
john.stanich@personalogospsykologi.se
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 14:31:58
Comments:
Hei RUNE!
Do DF &WB know norwegian? Think they'll appreciate swedish?
Me n another person from 10 jan are trying to zoot allure SD to Scandinavia this summer.Ha de
Jman
Name: Walter Specker
Give me a break...
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 12:43:00
Comments:
In the enormity of a near random universe, aren't we all microscopic specks?WS
Name: Roy.Scam
BF5 @ Abyss.in.VaBeach.Monday
Va
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 11:56:09
Comments:
Ole-wanderer--This pollution eating mobile foilage that you spotted in the Big Apple, it didn't happen to say "Feed me, Seymour!" did it?----I meant to ask you to pick up my P.C. stowed out on Avenue Z.--I hear that even the traffic reports are Dan-literate in the City.
Return to Brenda: You still deserve better. 11TOW did everything that Springsteen, Gabriel, and Cohen try to do, and did it with prettier chords. Don't give up on it.
RS
Name: Don Baird
Donbaird@admin.humberc.on.ca
Location: Toronto, Ont Canada
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 07:24:35
Comments:
Sunday February 22, 1998
at the
Bamboo/Queen street west, Toronto, Canada
9:30 PM
Pretzel LogicA tribute to Steely Dan featuring:
Glyn Stevens-vocals
Don Baird-keyboards
Shawn Eisenberg-drums
Bob McAlpine-guitar
Peter Graham-tenor & vocals
Tim Johns-guitar
Dave Johns-bass
Jim Lawliss-alto
Joe Reynolds-trumpet
Gary Taylor-percussion
"I cried when I wrote this song
sue me if I play too long
this brother is free
I'll be what I want to be..."DF/WB '77
Name: RUNE
oppifjellet
Norge
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 04:57:57
Comments:
På en dårlig dag Steely Dan
Når sola skinner Steely Dan
Da du trodde du begynte å forstå Steely Dan
Og nå Stealing Danit was still SEPTEMBER WHEN.
Name: RUNE
vegart@online.no
Norge
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 04:40:21
Comments:
I`m back with a stronger mind.
Becker`s 11 tracks are strange and beautiful.
Not to forget number 12 Little Kawai.
it was still SEPTEMBER WHEN.
Name: Return to Brenda
address unknown
Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 at 01:55:44
Comments:
11 Tracks of Whack is an apt title for the lame piece of shit Mr. Becker put forth to the public. I've listened to this garbage enough and no amount of gentle coaxing will make me reconsider my opinion. WB was obviously too strung out to get a real percussionist for this project and the lack of effort shows. I bet DF only participated in order to save his good name. If WB doesn't look upon this solo effort as a professional embarrasment then God help us all.
Name: dug
dcl@home.com
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 22:20:31
Comments:
wow is this a kinky web page or Steely Dan?
Name: ol meander
an oleander grows in brooklyn
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 18:48:31
Comments:
Roy--Botanical flash: spotted a rootless, mutant epiphyte specimen, released from runners and thriving on smoggy grit like ailanthus....Tracked: passed an eatery named Josie's; saw a club where folks were in a line around the block; basked in the frozen rain by Radio City; pointed down Seventh Avenue; checked who was playing at The Fez; gave a nod to the charmer in Brooklyn; didn't get lost in the barrio but cruised the Museum of the American Indian.
And saw the most supreme card-handler on the planet: Ricky Jay, prestidigitator, king of legerdemain, and portly cameo in "House of Games" and "Tomorrow Never Dies." Not only can he chew your disbelief up and blow it into smoke rings, but he's erudite about it--has an incomparable collection of magic arcana and quotes it richly in his show. If anyone in the Apple area can, go stand in the cancellation line at Second Stage and see this guy. Once in a lifetime experience.
End of OTD--makes me remember many of the moody, long, lonely walks I've taken on the beach.
St. Al--I have a number of tobacco recipes....E me for more....
Clas--"Kurt Weill's glamour profession"??!!??
stevie--what is your source for the T/Barrytown idea?
Rubita--More Danmoments: 1) same McD's. same balls--"Tomorrow's Girls." I think I'll become a regular. 2) "Entertainment" magazine, airplane reading--Bill Pullman in the upcoming "Zero Effect" is described as using "pretzel logic" to solve crimes without leaving his apartment.
Happy belated B, Mr. Becker.
Name: Sunny
@stoney.trace cabin
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 17:55:58
Comments:
Greetings Dan fans, one and all. My luminous friend Lisa has been gracious enough to transport me to the vast computer wonderland and all it's fantastic attractions...most wonderfully, this delightful exchange of dialogue. She's also recently begun the process of enlightening me in the art of Steely Dan...Oh! how I love the goddess! (and the guestbook)
Clas, I am young and romantic and a virgin to cyber chat. I imagine we can stroll any stretch of sparkling beach we would ever desire...Announcer: "The list of possibilities has just passed Mars and is quickly approaching Uranus. When will it come to an end?"
Kinky. Hey! I'm checkin' you out...
S.
Name: wacked out on wack
kayugakid@aol.com
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 12:02:59
Comments:
Finally broke down and bought 11 TOW
might keep only 2 Ts
WB fifty is not niftyback to FL room w/BB Srs.
Kayuagkid
Name: Microscopic Spell Check
not found - ecstacy
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 09:08:03
Comments:
Replace with: ecstasy
Name: a microscopic (but harmless) speck
.
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 09:04:56
Comments:
Major Dude: I would name that restaurant Countdown To Ecstacy.
And it would live up to its name. They'd be lining up outside...What do you think?
Name: Greg Lougayness
Nagano
Location: Japan,
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 01:47:52
Comments:
Has anyone seen my gerbil?
Name: Tanya Harding
Trailer Haven
USA
Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 00:09:53
Comments:
It ain't the size of the wave, it's the motion of the ocean, baby! Now show me your tsunami!!!!
Name: Return to Brenda
address unknown
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 23:25:06
Comments:
That's Lipinsky you cruel, blue suede-o-phonic phool. Don't think the King ain't watchin' his little fried nanners.
Name: Ms. Lewinsky
if you're nasty
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 22:35:48
Comments:
First the President, and now an Olympic Gold Medal in figure skating! What next?!
Name: defender
uncle@n willy
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 21:56:43
Comments:
Hey Man! I am real, not a figment of Kinky's imagination. Hal is a Prophet. Are you jealous of his quick mind, striking good looks, fat bank account and absurdly large genitalia?
He knows what the ladies like.
Kinky's #1 Fan
Name: Clean Willy
ClnWilly@aol.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 20:21:48
Comments:
Unlike a certain surly subscriber to this here GB, I guess I oughta occasionally post somethin' Dan related... I am profoundly conciliatory...
Turns out our illustrious Steve Gadd cut his eye teeth drumming for the US Army band. He volunteered (signed up for band duty) to avoid being drafted, which would have required him to serve in the jungles of Nam. He says he learned his incredible gift of sight reading drum charts whist playing for the US Army band - what with their penchant for discipline, etc.
Name: Not Hal
Kinky's #2 Fan
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 19:28:10
Comments:
Clean Willy I have never seen one post from you that was not bashing Kinky. Have you ever made one?
Name: Clean Willy
ClnWilly@aol.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 18:58:47
Comments:
OMIGOD... Hal, I'm begging you, take a deep breath, sit back, have another beer, and relax... Please don't start inventing yet another fictitious and fustian fan base. It's just way too obvious at this point.
Name: defender
a f@n of the Kinkster
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 17:52:17
Comments:
come on people. Kinky is a maestro. Learn to appreciate his wit!
Name: I hate him too
but....
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 17:24:46
Comments:
Please Clean Willy,If your gonna try to make a fool out of Kinky please try to say something clever or funny or something!
Name: mWorld
@work
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 15:32:31
Comments:
Maj© - I knew you'd ask me that...Sorry...but take heart, Pat's got a nifty recipe...
Re:'The Name':
um...'Eat and/or Die'...?
Re: 'The Dog':
I think they duct tape 'em to the boards.
mW
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 14:58:42
Comments:
Hmmm, no suggestions for the Hall of Shame *restaurant*.
mW: Kewl shades, how's you teach the dog to surf like that? Bring any Maui-zowie back with you?
maj©
Name: MrWhatever
asianvegetarian?
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 14:45:46
Comments:
cow,pig,chicken,duck,deer,antelope,bison,emu,snail,turkey,trout,
rhea,scallop,elk,mutton,veal,snapper..both kinds!,perch,toag,
lamb,oyster,lobster,bear,pheasant,quail,walleye,catfish,squirrel,
.....these are a few of my favorite things. Wanna come for dinner? sorry no greens.
Name: Aja
slipped veg@tarian
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 14:28:44
Comments:
I slipped again, just a few bites of chicken, what was I thinking? And why am I sharing? Who cares?
StAl - I miss your sense of humor. Clas - I miss your kind emails.
WB (if you actually read this GB) Happy Birthday!
Aja
Name: So who's counting?
time out of mind
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 13:52:53
Comments:
...in 2 years...Happy birthday Walter!!
Name: justafreak
reel-in-in-the-years
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 13:21:16
Comments:
So Mr. Becker, you have surpassed the half a century mark!
Joyous birthdate!
See folks, a good clean lifestyle, keeping away from excess drink and other pleasures really is the way to go as evidenced by the priestly lifestyle lead by Walter. We can all do well by following his fine example. Another hit anyone?....Pun intended.
Name: Clean Willy
ClnWilly@aol.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 12:09:06
Comments:
... and you, Kranky, are an incredibly large boil on the ass of humanity...
Name: Kinky
@WB'sBirthdayBash
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 11:43:51
Comments:
RubyBaby - Don't underestimate yourself, sweetheart, you're an incredibly small speck.
Name: RubyBaby
Happy Birthday, you handsome stud!
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 11:01:58
Comments:
Dearest Walter,It is with humility and some embarassment that I write to you. How could I miss the fact that you are completely absent from the Nightfly? Yes, I've read the liner. Yes, I've checked the list of musicians. (yes, I CAN read) So...? All I can figure is that when it says Randy Brecker, my brain did something funky and turned it into Walter Becker.
But that doesn't let me off the hook now, does it? How about my own ears - did I hear your cool instrumentation? Did I detect your lyrical genious? No, no and no. I merely assumed that you laid low on this one. I took it for granted that you were in there somewhere, in a subtle way but no less valuable. How could I conceive of anything else?
I am now aware of the old lady lawsuit, (or is that laddy?) thank you, hunter s.
I realize that I am just a speck, smaller than most other specks, and that you probably won't even see this. But on the outside chance that I've offended you I wanted to apologize. You don't deserve to be taken for granted. And definitely not on your birthday!
May all your favorite wishes come true -
rb
Name: hunter s.
@thompsom.org
Location: gonzo, co.
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 10:08:23
Comments:
re:Becker's absence in the late '70's/early '80's.......Becker was whacked out on hard drugs during this time , embracing the dark side a la Colonel Kurtz.....he wasn't on 'Nightfly' because he had to get out of town due to a big lawsuit by an old laddy in Hollywood.....he had in effect turned into one of the characters of his own songs.....life does imitate art after all....
... gotta go shoot my guns off.... a la Old Bull Lee
Name: hunter s.
@thompsom.org
Location: gonzo, co.
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 10:08:21
Comments:
re:Becker's absence in the late '70's/early '80's.......Becker was whacked out on hard drugs during this time , embracing the dark side a la Colonel Kurtz.....he wasn't on 'Nightfly' because he had to get out of town due to a big lawsuit by an old laddy in Hollywood.....he had in effect turned into one of the characters of his own songs.....life does imitate art after all....
... gotta go shoot my guns off.... a la Old Bull Lee
Name: Big Fan
dhkrouse@snet.net
Location: Barkhamsted, CT USA
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 09:58:44
Comments:
HB WB
Name: Roy.Scam
@ the Dixie Chicken
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 08:50:38
Comments:
Dr.MU: Accidental or not, "drshing" is a perfect onomatopoetic word for the crashing cymbal parts in "On the Dunes".
RS
Name: Phelonious
horsetrack
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 07:48:42
Comments:
Fez, Joe M: I'm a big Feat fan. Fat Man In The Bathtub is killer.
Willin' and Don't Bogart ... very nice.In my early daze I worked in a music store. When Led Zep's
In Through The Out Door and the Dan's Gaucho came out, people camped out overnight to get a copy. Does this sort of thing still happen?
Name: John Henry
records galore
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 07:38:53
Comments:
Hey guys it was nothing new when WB didn't play on all the tracks on Gaucho. He didn't play on all the tracks of Aja either, and probably the same for RScam, and maybe Katy Lied, and there may have even been a track or two on Pretzel Logic too. His playing, while great, isn't as important as the fact that HE CREATED THE MUSIC with DF, right? But I personally love his tasty Gaucho guitar parts on the songs Hey 19 and Gaucho.
And BTW ... Happy Birthday Walter!!
Name: DrMu
not so nimble fingers
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 07:37:44
Comments:
that's "crashing" drums
Name: DrMu
twitch & smoke
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 07:35:25
Comments:
Roy/Razor/FezNorde: Yes he' just watching those super swells wondering about those heart breaking girls from another world wondering why his life is going out to sea. Those "drshing" drums...perfect. On the Dunes (Trans-Island Skyway is a close 2nd) is the one song on Kama that sounds most like the stuff on the Nightfly (a grezt illustration of a muscial clarity and complexity - the best) to me. I have to admit that sometimes I'll listen to Kama from Teahouse backwards to Trans-Island Skyway. I prefer the songs over the last 69% of the CD. Given Walter and Donald's revived collaboration, the CD makes surprising sense in this order...or it could be just me.
Name: Joe M
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 07:27:22
Comments:
feznorth: Yeah, The Feats "Waiting For Columbus" is one of greatest damn recordings of all time. I'm not some whacked out vinyl freak or anything, but if you can find an original double LP of this one, do so. Much like Asylum's hack job on Joni's "Shadows And Light" where some musically challanged CD re-issue nitwit edited out several gems including a cut featuring a phenomenal Metheny solo, the CD version of "Columbus" culls some vintage Lowell George material as well.
I've also read/heard that Becker was AWOL for much of "Gaucho". He also went on an extended two week bender during "Aja" where not even Fagen knew of his whereabouts, but his imprint on "Aja" is incontrovertible.
Name: Roy.Scam
where.rents.are.high
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 05:16:42
Comments:
Razor: I re-listened to the 3 minute farewell of "On the Dunes" and the percussion is impressive. I also noticed that, at about the 2 minute mark, there seems to be a couple of notes of slap bass, as if Larry Graham snuck in the studio for a second and a half. Did you hear that too or was it a rheumatis' medicine induced hallucination?
Clas: 2 Shay. I was wondering if you'd notice my Scanda-phobic remark.
Fez del Norte: Take care of that old blood pump. Maybe it's time to cut back to a tankard of Chowning's Ale per day. (and one Cheech & Chong sized J.)
RS
Name: clas
c@w
Location: watertown,
Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 at 00:25:49
Comments:
Roy Scam; yeah, and that goes for the GBOOK too?
Name: just a RubyBabe
in the woods
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 22:37:41
Comments:
RazorBoy: I admit, I didn't finish that sentence on purpose. I hoped you would come closer to me so I could whisper it to you. I am at once shy and shameless.All I ask of you...is share a wild dream or two.
John Henry: Your post was quite a shock to me! I have serious questions: Why wasn't WB involved in The Nightfly? How do I overcome the humiliation of being the last to know this? Do you think it would hurt WB's feelings to know his distinct absence was overlooked? He doesn't read St.Al's guest book, does he?
Major: I'm mulling over your last post. The thoughts of such a generous offer, induction of the 2 most magnificent composers & A RESTAURANT has made my heart beat a little faster...
rb
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 19:26:45
Comments:
To Royal Scam: The final instrumentation in "On the Dunes" kind of solidifies the imagery that Fagen conjures up, in me at least. During the song, I picture what he says, and feel transported there. But the instrumentation sounds like water welling up on the ocean, and crashing on the beach, and I come up with my own images. Mostly sensual of course, with the whole sand and surf contributing to an image of being there alone, or with a lover, away from the "maze."
Yeah, it 's smaltzy and all, but that's what Fagen and Becker do with their music. No other artists, except maybe the Eagles or Jackson Browne can elicit that type of imagery in me.
Prof: I remember seeing DF at the 1983 Grammys, as his name was read out as a nominee for video of the year (I think it was New Frontier) and "I.G.Y." was also nominated. It was kind of freaky, because I had never seen him on television or other media, and figured he would be the last guy to be seen at an awards show. When "Nightfly" came out in 1982, the music critic for the Ottawa newspaper dismissed it as not worthy of much consideration as quality work. To appreciate SD, Fagen or Becker, one or two "listens" of their work is sacrilgious to pass judgement on.
Sorry for taking up so much space.
Name: justafreak
goodbyecruel world.gov
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 19:08:51
Comments:
Looks like the human race has been run.
Name: fezonorth
bodaciouscowboy.com
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 14:27:15
Comments:
Ruby: I knew you were joshing (as opposed to the poster who suggested I should retire) in your response to my negative critique of The Nightfly. I was serious, though, in saying I was going to buy the CD in an attempt to enhance my listening aptitude. I am troubled by my relative dislike of the album. I feel much like my four-year-old nephew when he realized he didn't favor cotton candy. He knew it was something he should like and felt like a fool because he did not.
All: A recent poster said the major difference between Nightfly and Kamakariad was the lack of Becker from the former. This raised the question (this is mostly rhetorical, please, no flames) in my mind of how much Becker contributed to Gaucho. I know he has co-writing credit but he's not listed as a player on some of the tracks, he was in an admitted drug haze at the time, and he was hit by a car at some point in the production. Any thoughts as to his level of input?
Non-SD 70ish CD recommendation: Little Feat, Waiting for Columbus. Live disc that captures Lowell et al. at their best. Check it out.
fezo
Name: Prof.steve v dan
grammyaward.org
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 10:29:59
Comments:
Hey inquiring: Steely Dan won a Grammy in 1978 for Best Engineered Recording (non Classical)...they won the same award in 1979 for the FM Soundtrack Lp and in 1981 for Gaucho....
in 1983 'the Nightfly' was nominated for 7 different categories but failed to win even one....and ludicrisly (sic)the award for Best Producer went to Toto instead of Gary Katz!....Jeff Porcaro had enough class however to state that "This Award belongs to Gary Katz!"....interestingly Fagen actually attentded this program and was shown anxiously seated on several occassions.....
X Files contd....
Skinner:"Agent Mulder are you aware that Donald Fagen, lead singer for an obscure pop band named Danielle Steele..."Mulder:"Uh sir,..that's Steely Dan....an efficient and ambigous recording outfit that charted consistently throughout the 1970's."
Skinner:"Are you trying to show me up Agent Mulder?"
Name: FrozenRainMaker
u6b88@ugb.keele.ac.uk
UK
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 09:28:50
Comments:
Looking for Medical Science or any rare Dan I'm unaware of, or Metheny live stuff. Have plenty of Dan rarities to offer. E-mail me please if you can help or just feel like proposing general trading.
"Homicide on the dunes..."
Name: Inquiring Minds
@ the AP Wire
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 08:45:04
Comments:
"This Week In Entertainment History"
from the Associated Press"20 years ago: The Eagles won Record Of The Year for "Hotel California" at the 20th annual Grammy Awards. "Rumours" by Fleetwood Mac won the Album Of The Year. Other winners included Linda Ronstadt, Steely Dan and James Taylor."
What was the SD Grammy for?
Name: John Henry
records galore
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 06:11:08
Comments:
Rubybaby, I think there is one key musician missing from Nightfly who would have made it as Steely Dan-like as Kamakiriad is... And his initials are WB
RoyScam, I don't think the instrumentatoin at the end of On The Dunes is uneventful. The drumming by itself is phenomenal, who was that, Chris Parker on that one? Moves from sensitive to explosive, like Gadd did on Aja.
Name: Roy.Scam
@1 Peek-a-Boo Street
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 05:19:09
Comments:
Nightfly vs Kamakiriad: I'd call it a toss up. (That's 'pick em' to you gamblers.) But I'd give a slight advantage to Nightfly because you don't have to have a booklet to understand it.
Razor: I share that weakness for "On the Dunes". Check out Fagen's instructional video, where he shows details of the piano construction of that song, Peg and Chain Lightning.---Do you have any explanation for that 3 minutes of relatively uneventful instumentation at the end of "On the Dunes" on Kamakiriad?
And the painful part of watching the Winter Olympics is realizing that there are things that Finland, Sweden and Norway can do better than we can.
RS
Name: clas
c@w
Location: watertown,
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 01:52:14
Comments:
Sunny; i recall, it was nice, you sounded sweet, young... I'd love to jog on the sand with you. But I am old, could hardly make it down to my job this morning. Tell Lisa I'll try again with those pictures of Don.
Geena; what seems to be is always better than nothing. And thanks for the Chicken soup.
Ruby; that recipe is a must for Pat's cookbook!
Musician, sep 1993;
MUSICIAN: On Kamakiriad the grooves have much more pure R&B in them.
FAGEN: I was researching records at the time of the New York Rock and Soul Revue. I was looking for a more aggressive feel. I had a lot of control because I was building the tracks with a sequencer, like a mechanical model. I could create these beats that a drummer would not normally play. I was very careful about the groove. I'd run everything through delays and kinda play around with it until I got everything really relaxed. Then I'd show that to the drummer, and then he'd...
BECKER; ...fall to the ground weaping uncontrollably.
Name: Schwinn
security
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 00:55:50
Comments:
Steviedan: "On the First Day" was a nice call. "God's Monkey" is as strident as it gets.
"My Life in the Bush of Ghosts" by Eno and Byrne is still amazing considering it was recorded way before digital had its way. "Help Me Somebody" will run charges up anybody's back. (Fans of early sampling should check this out).
Still, "Strange Cargo" by William Orbit is a must. It's old and perhaps a little too familiar to some, but if you haven't heard it you should.
Also, anything by Future Sounds of London.
EZ Listnin'SEMB
Name: Stephen Barlag
barlag@juno.com
Location: North Richland Hills, TX USA
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 22:23:03
Comments:
This cat's got the eye. Call it pirate radar, scoping out the room for some trim. But there's nobody new, so she zeros in on you.
Name: Stephen Barlag
barlag@juno.com
Location: North Richland Hills, TX USA
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 22:15:20
Comments:
This cat's got the eye. Call it pirate radar, scoping out the room for some trim. But there's nobody new, so she zeros in on you.
Name: Mock Turtle
jrsevers@students.wisc.edu
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 22:13:21
Comments:
Hell, it's drinkin' time, everybody!
MT
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 21:01:06
Comments:
Overheard at the Hall of F(Sh)ame...
The word of the *generous* offer by Walter and Donald to *donate* some used recording equipment used by Dan to the Hall has reached the top. Let's say, you have their ear and your site is bookmarked.
Also, hypothetically speaking of course, IF a new restuarant was to open in the Hall, at a time that just might coincide with the induction of two of America's greatest composers, what name would be appropriate? Sign in on this one, strangers...
Working Overtime (remember Tollesfon last year?),
maj©
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 20:45:24
Comments:
Ruby Baby - D'uh, you lost me on your "all I ask of you" salutation to moi, on your recent posting. Give me a hint, won't you? Or am I so clueless, I don't rate one? Anyway, your love of Kamikiriad's "Tomorrow's Girls" is not lost on me. It has that great line, "a virus wearing pumps and pearls," to describe them. Leave it to DF to come up with an image that is right out of an episode of X Files. I have a weakness for "On the Dunes" and "Teahouse on the Tracks." Two diverse tracks but again, music and lyrics which send me into an advanced state of escapism to the very surroundings conjured up in those songs. But on "Nightly," back to back he gives us the very jazzy "Goodbye Look," followed by "Walk Between the Raindrops," which sounds like it came out of a lounge in the basement of some hotel with Hawaiin decor. The organ solo is a sound that is almost forgotten. I always get off on a tangent when "Nightfly" and "Kamikiriad" are brought up.
Time to watch more Olympics.
Name: Sunny
@stoney.trace
Location: Smoking heavily, with the "Cabin Girl"
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 20:14:34
Comments:
Hi Clas--
How I have longed to hear your sensuous voice again. Do you recall our brief conversation? I felt electricly alive while we were speaking, as if your energy surrounded my entire body. I can see by the previous post that you are already involved in a tryst with Geena. Don't let me intrude, but I would enjoy receiving a response from you in the near future.
S.
Name: RubyBaby
Let's St@y Together
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 20:05:23
Comments:
WannaBeRockCritic(whoever you are): You da MAN! I am the proud and happy owner of Tribute To Jeff. It makes me want to have a party!Fez0North: I was just joshin' ya, but how does a Dan Fan not like the Nightfly even just a little? Among the solo projects, I think it's the most SteelyDan-ish of them all. Just look at the cast of musicians...
minorWorld: I knew you were home the other day when the cows stopped howling and resumed their gentle mooing. Welcome home!
Got milk?
rb
Name: Geena
throughtheloop
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 19:44:41
Comments:
Fez Chick:
Where have you been sistah? I haven't read a post from you in a long time!
I've been home with a germ that Clas must have passed on to me...
only kidding Clas! really....just kidding...a little joke...very small....
Name: FezChick
continuing . . .
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 19:19:21
Comments:
Aaaaajaaaa - when all my dime dancing is through
I run to youuuuuhoooo!
Name: sillydan
fox@channel2
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 16:33:33
Comments:
Skinner:"Agent Mulder can I see you in my office....bring your headphones...."
Name: steviedan
uc berkeley.com
Location: sillydan-101,
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 16:28:48
Comments:
Hank: if you search you might find 'Gone To Earth' in the import bin...that was Sylvian and Fripp circa 1986 ....very cerebral...might need a good pipe of hash to enjoy the full ambiance.....pop music for people who spend too much time in libraries......
tv show idea...::how 'bout getting Fagen and Becker to guest on the X Files???!!!....Mulder:"Scully it's an import copy of the Royal Scam....with a different version of 'Sign in Stranger..."
Scully: "What are you saying Mulder...that aliens have altered the master tapes to Steely Dan's albums...??".....Mulder:"Wait a minute...wasn't Skinner seen whistling 'Rikki Don't Lose That Number'???"
Name: On a tram
to Club Hi Ho
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 14:44:46
Comments:
Chiiiiineeese music always sets me free...
Name: Hank Silvers
between the losers and the lost
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 13:38:16
Comments:
Prof Stevie: Will have to give Fripp/Sylvian another try. Jean the Birdman (heard on Phillly's 'XPN) was the reason I snapped it off the Used pile at CD World, but despite several listens, haven't gotten the rest of it. Yet, anyway.
Minah: Yes, it is a catchy tune. Glad you don't mind it (much) looping around up there. You might try replacing it with Something Good.
St. Al: Nice start on the cookbook. Keep going.
Oleander: Impressions aren't my strong suit, but I am impressed. (Burma Shave doggerel and bawdy limericks are about all I can recite.) Now, speaking of the Rev. Dodgson, will you won't you join the dance?
A random thought: Six Degrees of Donald Fagen -- any specialists on the subject out there? Any takers?
Name: Prof. Steviedan
stephen@yogajournal.com
Location: peets coffee, CA
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 12:00:38
Comments:
Schwinn: glad to see someone else into Sylvian and Fripp....Sylvian's stuff with Japan is kind of like a darker extension of some of Steely Dan's themes....a darker cerebral version of China Crisis....that Sylvian/Fripp album (First Day [virgin 1993]) is one of the best albums of the '90's......Becker's solo lp reminds me a bit of Sylvian......the Dolphin Brothers also have a great sound.........
re: 'Dan jazz connections part 345....that Deodato lp, 'Live At the Felt Forum' features a stellar version of 'Do It Again' with Jack Dejohnette on drums!! and Ron Carter on bass!...and Airto on percussion....ah those were the days......1973...Steely Dan, The Mets...Watergate...Stealers Wheel....
Name: ashadow
ashadow@hotmail.com
Location: London, UK
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 10:50:16
Comments:
"...chineeeese music always sets meeee freee, angular banjo sounds good to meeeeee..."
Name: Cindy Thompson
cindy191@aol.com
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 05:06:42
Comments:
Two radio stations here in New York play SD while giving the local traffic report. WNEW plays East St. Louis Toodle-oo and WPLJ plays DF's version of Ruby Baby.
Name: Schwinn
not@chance
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 20:18:57
Comments:
JCD
In between the comets and the planetary conjunctions I like to plug-in to William Orbit's "Strange Cargo". Eno, Fripp and Sylvian are stellar as well. Any quasars I should know about?
Uh Huh
Name: Geena
Greenflower Street, Beacon Hill
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 19:36:33
Comments:
John Henry:
glad you like Beacon Hill!...i don't when you were last here...but it's changed a lot...it's gotten better and safer! I really don't live on Beacon Hill (i work there), but i wish i had to the money to live there...
thanks for the info on Jenny Muldaur..i just thought if DF had anything to do with it, it might be worth listening to...maybe i'll go to "CD Now" and see if it's available to sample.
Clas:
Thanks for giving me whatever you have! I'm home sick now!!
Name: Aja
SIERRALUNA@prodigy.net
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 18:49:16
Comments:
Prof.Steviedan,
I guess Barrytown was just easier for Donald to sing (and I would guess it avoids some nasty legal problems too).
Aja
Name: Prof.Steviedan
stevev@jps.net
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 15:15:46
Comments:
re: 'Barrytown' ; hey John maybe they missed spelled Tarrytown???
Name: Wanna be rock critic
@ where ever you want me to be
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 14:51:34
Comments:
Ok RubyBaby,
TRIBUTE TO JEFF- David Garfield and friends play Tribute to Jeff Porcaro
Boz sings a Dylan song, and his version of Low Down is covered with new arragments by Donald Fagen!...So there RubyBaby (how am I doin' so far?)
Steely Dan helped make Jeff Porcaro a house hold name in the music biz., and for that reason alone a Dan fan should own this cd!
BTW Ruby, it comes with a great booklet lotsa pictures
Name: fezonorth
ekg.com
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 13:36:04
Comments:
fezchick (no relation): I've always thought "Babylon Sister" was just word play referring to a girl who kept running on and on at the mouth and that "shake it" refers to the high school standby, handjobs.
ruby: i think you may be right; my dislike of Nightfly stems from inferior audio equipment. So far I've only heard it on a scratchy second hand lp played on a ten-year-old turntable still featuring its original needle. I resolve to get Nightfly on CD soon.
lisa: i too live in a cabin in the woods. it's a rustic, mellow life, ain't it. Alas the real world has intervened and my drive south for a smokedown will have to be delayed. My doctor informs me that a six of Bud and a pipe a day is bad for the ole ticker. who'd have thought?
fezo
Name: Aja
sierraluna@juno.com or SIERRALUNA@prodigy.net
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 13:21:09
Comments:
Scurvy Brother Brian - Welcome.
StAl - checked out your cookbook so far, that's cute.
Aja
Name: John henry
records galore
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 13:09:37
Comments:
Steviedan, so I guess you think the fact that there is a town called Barrytown right next door to Bard College is just a coincidence, right??!
Name: steviedan
Bezerkeley,CA
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 12:15:35
Comments:
re: Porcaro tribute is by Dave Garfield on Zebra Records...it is all right.....and does include a track with Denny Dias...and there are instrumental versions of 'Black Friday' and 'Babylon sisters'
Brian: re; 'Barrytown'..... is actually about Tarrytown, NY....home of a large Moonie enclave...(i.e. "Barrytown people got to be from another world....", contrary to how Brian Sweet interpreted the song in his 1994 book...
re: Goldmine Magazine : Anybody out there have a copy of the Goldmine issue from Jan.1993 with Steely Dan on the cover??? will pay/trade handsomely
Name: maj©
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 11:23:06
Comments:
Checking the box......
Name: minah
khillman@lightspeed.net
Location: Back in Cowtown,
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 10:05:39
Comments:
Hey gang, back avoiding work after 10 days of, um, avoiding work...
So (Loosely) on the subject of '11TOW memorability', one of a couple Hawaiian Dan moments: Had a rental 4-wheel drive Jeep on a trip to Lanai which we took down to 'Shipwreck Beach'(just a little irony in THAT name). Suffice to say that my brother's navigation quickly turned said vehicle into a 3-wheel drive (he cut a corner and bent the rim). So, we're 12 miles from civilization, no hammer to bend the rim back, and one lug on the tire is stripped so the jack is useless. To his credit, while I'm beating on the rim with a rock, my brother heads up the road and finds a local guy fishing on his day off. This guy is 'preparation incarnate' : tools, portable air compressor, the works. We pound the rim back, the tire holds air, and we're back in business - but this guy won't take money, so I ask for his name and address thinking I'll send him some cow paraphernalia for his trouble. When he hands me his name, its Stanley - and my mind kicks into that groove couplet from 11TOW's Medical Science: "My man Stanley..."...Stanley comes through...
Olyander:
Thanks for the splee check...I mean spell chuck.JGM: Goods received. Big Thanks, man.
Maj©: Check that Filbert Box, brother.
Ruby: You can send them pies anlong any ol' time.
Lester: Hey man, good to see you around, Visalia digs the 13 as well.
Hank: Yeah, I kinda have a love-hate thing with Jabberwocky, too. Thanks for putting that back on my brain's play-list...now it won't go away...
Zeke: Happy Phat Tuesday (isn't this what the kids say these days?).
The good news: This lengthy post is almost over.
The bad news: I'm outta vacation 'till August.
mW
Name: RubyBaby
cotton c@ndy
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 09:29:12
Comments:
Wanabe Rock Critic: What's the name of that tribute to Jeff Porcaro cd on which M.McDonald sings is @ off and the drumming is outstanding and Boz is all over that one song? Would like to check this DanFan Must.Fezchick: I think a Babylon Sister is a member of the Oldest Profession. She will shake anything - for a price. If she's adept, she will get you to believe this is no one night stand; it's a Real occasion. Close your eyes and you'll be there...
Ever play it?
rb
Name: John Henry
records galore
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 07:03:20
Comments:
Hi geena from Beecon Hill, one of my favorite places in the world!!!
On that Jenny Muldaur album, no, Don F. was not the producer of it. He did do something for it like arrange the horns for one song or some'n like that. It's an OK CD, it came out about four or 5 years ago I think. Hard to find now.
Name: Brian Vick
bvick@airnet.net
Location: Florence, AL United States
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 22:23:40
Comments:
Hey just browsing with my book of numbers and my remedies. One of
these surely will screen out the sorrow and I will Home at Last
tomorrow.By the way, what is wrong with BarryTown?
The Scurvy Brother.
Name: steelyduck
steelyduck@aol.com
Location: fairfield, ct usa
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 20:10:51
Comments:
If anyone hears from my Louise, won't you tell her I love her so?
Name: StAl
webmaster@pageboy.net
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 13:07:30
Comments:
The Cookbook in its infancy:
http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/recipes/
Name: bottomlevel,borrow4money,buddieandpal
therapy@home
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 07:29:04
Comments:
What a wonderful day! I feel as if my burdens have been lifted
and the dogs have set me free. Online therapy of the Dan's Mankind, aka; misery loves company, works for me.
..Blossoming amoure across the land lines, open for all to see.
..Mental anguish and dark contorted figments stab at the unweary.
..The curious look on and imagine the other side of themselves that perhaps they may, one day, choose to explore.
..The congregation here, afterall, there is comfort in numbers.
enjoy your current state
Name: Zeke
lurking
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 07:01:28
Comments:
Thought I would stop by today. Just wanted to drop a note about the '98 Jazz Fest in New Orleans. Some of the shows
will be onsale this morning. I don't have a complete schedule,
but I hear Dan Alumni Michael McDonald and the Doobs will
show. More, later.St. Al: Cookbook? Excellent idea. You have my South LA. input.
Later.
Name: FEZCHICK
So fine - so young
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 04:13:06
Comments:
What exactly is a "BABYLON SISTER" and why do they "shake it"?
My daughter and I love the song, but we would like it more if we knew just exactly we were singing about.
Please advise.
Name: JCD
n@ked.lunch.com
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 03:10:37
Comments:
Any hypotheses as to the sexual preferences of ye olde D&W? Their name being taken from a Burroughs novel, it's hard to imagine them as homophobes. Just curious as to whether or not there is speculation re: collaboration-say, in the bedroom between the team of two?
Name: clas
c@w
Location: watertown,
Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 at 00:42:06
Comments:
Lisa; Samantha too? Where have these girls been all my life?
...everybody here's a number, not a name/But I guess that's all right with me...
Name: JCD
n@ked.lunch.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 20:56:23
Comments:
Just wondering if any hardcore Danfans besides me have made forays into exploring the world of electronica. Of course this does not mean the Mtv Amp CD. I mean true underground stuff, junglism or holy breaks. UK goods, Danny Bukem and Sasha, John Digweed, Electric Skychurch, Mu-Ziq, the Metalheadz junglists, Photek, Goldie... etcetera. I don't know why it appeals to me so much, but I find that if I'm not listening to the Dan I want to her some musically complex soulless data spewed forth by some mad programmer behind his 15k Yamaha setup. I would highly reccommend for any Danfan the "LTJ Bukem presents: _Logical_Progression_" album. So maybe I'm gonna get flamed by a bunch of purists but whatever. My friend that are all into general rock music mock the hell out of me all the time. They're the kind of folks who have SD albums because they hear it sometimes on the classic rock station. Anyway, that's my query. It's a fine workd, the rave world. Keeps me rollin.....
Name: Dave
daves88keys@hotmail.com
Location: Annandale, NY Estados Unidos
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 16:33:27
Comments:
Lester, no I live in Annandale, NY, since '68. We communicated about two years ago. Do you remember? I was in CA at the time.
You are a guitarist, as I remember. I love the keys. I can't help it. I play, hours, and hours, on no end. Some of the Dan chords, I like. I could recommend others. But, if only asked.
D.
Name: Lester the Nightfly
CC73647@aol.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 16:24:02
Comments:
By the way, any 13 chord is beautiful. I don't know of a page for musicians to converse, but there are some sites with SD chord progressions which are a great deal more accurate than what you'll find in published sheet music. Are you really from Barrytown, Dave? I'm always game for SD chord and solo deciphering conversation. CC73647@aol.com.
Name: Lester the Nightfly
CC73647@aol.com
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 16:10:03
Comments:
I just got 11 Tracks, and I'm sorry to say that I just don't like it very much. Kamakiriad is undoubtedly superior, and Nightfly takes them both. I'd love a new album, but I'm dying for a tour. Anyone please let me know of facts, rumors, or leaks from Kenneth Starr's office about a
tour. I think I just realized what "I'm gonna dig myself a hole/ Gonna lay down in it 'til I satisfy my soul" is referring to. I knew I loved these guys for a reason.Love to you all
Lester
Name: StAlphonzo
stalfnzo@seanet.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 14:51:53
Comments:
After a month of surveying your opinion on which GB format should stay, it's just about unanimous. The results are:
Old stlye guestbook= 16
New style guestbook= 69I am a little surprised actually. I really thought most would favor the old stlye. Shows you what I know. Thanks for the input!
I was in chat with Mr. Whatever last night and he came up with a fabulous suggestion. A Steely Dan(fan) Cookbook.
Stay tuned for the details....
CLAS: Got a good meatball recipe?
Andy: RE 11TOW -- Spin it at LEAST 2 or 3 more times. TOok me about a half dozen listenings before I fully appreciated it. Now, I listen to it quite frequently.
Name: Roy.Scam
arguing in chem class
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 13:24:18
Comments:
Hydrogen and oxygen are both great elements. H2O is a great mixture. So what if it's a little more H than O? It wouldn't be water (or even wet) without O. The 'whole vs sum of its parts' argument is misleading and moot.-----To those of you who, astonishingly, don't think 11TOW is a great album: You have a right to your opinion, but you deserve better.
RS
Name: Geena
Beacon Hill
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 11:19:14
Comments:
Has anyone heard of an album by Jenny Muldaur?
It was supposedly produced by DF (or at least that's what I hear) and i was wondering if anyone has heard it..what they think...Should i bother buying it...etc.
I'm sure if you're all such devoted SD fans..maybe someone could help me out here?!?!?!....please...
Name: Mock Turtle
jrsevers@students.wisc.edu
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 09:27:31
Comments:
Andy Gravity: I don't know about the other stuff (Danfans are few and far between here in Madison), but I have quickly learned that here on the GB, one doesn't offer any negative criticism (constructive or otherwise) on any SD or SD-related CD if they know what's good for them. Now, if you must trade 11TOW in, then do so; Kamakiriad is the superior album. But, why not hang on to 11TOW AND Kamakiriad? It shouldn't be an either/or situation.
Joe M.: Thanks for the FM answer. I just noticed it.
Name: lisa
close your eyes @nd slip away
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 08:57:06
Comments:
ole: glad to see the consensus...you know, we carolina sd girls need to stick together! i wondered if you meet many fans in asheville? it is pathetically barren of loyals here in pinehurst.
clas: chatting was super swell, but please explain how you managed to get samantha to fall in love with you?! must be something about the way you typed...i believe i'll be listening to bruce all day now...
"every little kiss..."
Name: C
c@w
Location: watertown,
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 04:49:05
Comments:
DUDES4; E13 is a lousy chord. If you wanne talk chords, stick to B11, C/F, G/C, Em. You know, like Dr Wu.
Lisa; nice chat in the chatroom yesterday! You are funny!
the sun sinks low over all around,
c
Name: Andy Gravity
toohe@vy
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 04:07:11
Comments:
As a new "Dan Convert" I was wondering...what's expected of me? How do we recognize each other? Is there a special hand shake or uniform? Where should I shop? Eat? Is there a coffee blend I should know about? I feel wearing a Steely Dan t-shirt would run counter to the whole scene but correct me if I'm wrong. Am I supposed to like TOW? I bought it and listened to it twice and still don't like the energy. Should I listen to it a third time or trade it in for Kamakiriad?
Up & Down
AG
Name: Wanabe Rock Critic
telling it like it is
Location: Chitown, Il.
Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 03:01:34
Comments:
About that tribute to Jeff Porcaro cd:It's very L.A. It has a cheesy jazz feel to it on some of the songs, but overall it's worth getting. McDonald sings his ass off (never heard him sound better!) Will Lee is great on the Hendrix tune
"If 6 were 9", Boz is all over it and the aray of drummers is outstanding.Check it out!...A must for any Dan fan.
Name: kayugakid
kayuagakid@aol.com
Location: like the name, ny RW&B
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 23:18:01
Comments:
Been enjoying the page for several months.
A true fan since the beginning in upstate thru
h.s., college , kids,career,and now middle age.
truly a serious and devoted freak
D&W kept me insane thru it all.
you name it I got it and been there
enjoy!
Name: Dudes4
daves88keys@hotmail.com
Location: Barrytown, NY U.S.
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 22:39:43
Comments:
To Whom: Does anyone know of a site where talk is D11, D maj7, chords, Fmaj7, E13? Specifically related to 'Steely Dan?' Like another language? A/B, Edim7, etcetera? I would be interested. Entries limited to two lines, just chords? Anyone know of a site like this? Lyrics can just be personal jokes between fellow musicians. Dave.
Name: Dudes4
daves88keys@hotmail.com
Location: Barrytown, NY U.S.
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 22:37:27
Comments:
To Whom: Does anyone know of a site where talk is D11, D maj7, chords, Fmaj7, E13? Specifically related to 'Steely Dan?' Like another language? A/B, Edim7, etcetera? I would be interested. Entries limited to two lines, just chords? Anyone know of a site like this? Lyrics can just be personal jokes between fellow musicians. Dave.
Name: Mr. Whatever
FrugalGourmet.com
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 15:48:16
Comments:
St.Al,
Just a few ideas for the new project:
1. salads and sun
2. pure confections
3. good and ripe pride
4. bones and pitchers
5. hurled worldPerhaps a gardening section would be nice.
Name: MJ Mecca
mmecca@snet.net
CT USA
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 15:37:32
Comments:
The busy world was not for me so I went and found my own.
Name: clas
shit
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 09:58:21
Comments:
Lisa, read your email!
Name: clas
c@w
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 08:45:31
Comments:
Keith Jarett, Horace Silvers, Kinkys Posters and let us not forget Kurt Weills Glamour Profession.
RUNE; be cool. If you play your cards right you gonna end up singing.
MAJ-nothing; Arizona Sky? Well, that´s always better than nothing.
Geena; thanks. Chicken soup maybe? In the way Ruby's doing it. Nothing else will do!
Lisa; well, turtle, I don't like the idea. I think we should let the Turtle be around. However, your thoughts on Fagen - Becker was very well put. But IF I had to make a choice, I´d go for Becker. I love his lyrics. And then I come to think of At Centurys End, The Nightfly.
No, no choice can be made. And no choice has to be made.
c
Name: Geena
northeast froze again
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 08:08:02
Comments:
hi lisa!
nice to meet you...make sure you put the real thing in his soup!
Name: RUNE
vegart@online.no
Norge
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 06:50:26
Comments:
Where the hell am I?
Name: justafreak
here4anotherday
Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 06:20:27
Comments:
You think no tomorrow will come when you lay down, ...I must have
been mistaken.
Name: oleander
east asheville toodle-oo
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 23:27:17
Comments:
Roy--I'm starting my research junket tomorrow. Will let you know if I find any botanical refutations. BTW, glad people stood up for, & you found, NYR&SR. It kicks, and I'll bet you get as many nostalgic grins as I do.
Mr La--yes, synergy; just what hit me when I read Pynchon's "Mason & Dixon" last summer. Over years of listening to their respective solo works, I have a much better sense of what each brings, and it's essential. I've heard/read some crap over the years about SD being Mr. Fagen, with Mr. Becker just along for the ride--taint so. Very much a yin-yang, interdependent entity, Feckenbager or Faker-Begen. And after reading "M & D" I was hit with profound admiration for a relationship that is so close, so longlasting, and which has produced & nurtured such incredible offspring.
Hankers--Wow! "Jabberwocky" incidentally is the only poem I can recite by heart. (You may do a Johnny Carson now)
GKR--There are some--"cringemaker" comes to mind.
lisa--I am absolutely in your camp about "Kama," "NF," and "11TOW." Great words, sum my feelings up precisely.
Joe--Don't know. Just read in the Digest that a recent pic showed Bela Fleck with Roger Nichols. Could that be what he's doing instead of the Dan??
Mithta Thtew--You betcha! Try again at oleander1@earthlink.net. BTW, I have a patient with an SS tattoo--and a few others in the genre. I never ask him about them.
Beware the Jubjub bird and shun the frumious Bandersnatch....
Name: lisa
@bout to kill off a 1/5
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 21:16:11
Comments:
clas: you are sick? i'm sorry you don't feel well, hon...i made some turtle soup earlier today, if you are interested.
btw, hi geena.
Name: Geena
onthedunes
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 21:02:04
Comments:
ok..i know i don't get many responses to my posts, but i do have an important question to ask:
has anyone heard an album by Jenny Muldaur? It was supposedly produced by DF (or at least that's what I hear) and i was wondering if anyone has heard it..what they think...
Clas: i'm sorry to hear you're sick...maybe you can get one of your girlfriends to make you some soup...that is...if they know how...i hope you feel better soon.
Name: Mike Kelley
DICCBLIND@AOL.COM
Location: Dallas, TX
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 21:01:32
Comments:
The Dan was the greatest live spectacle I've ever experienced!
Name: Roy.Scam
NewYorkrock&soulstateofmind
VA
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 20:44:05
Comments:
Saw Skunk Baxter on the news tonight. He was doing a guest appearance at a U. S. Treasury auction of some type. It seemed that they were auctioning off guitars that had belonged to Federal prisoners; but I didn't catch the whole story. Did anyone else see it? Skunk sounded good playing some incarcerate's Fender. Looked good too; Still had about four pounds of mustache.
Thanks to Dr Mu, StevieDan, Pignose, maj, and Hank S for the tips on the peripherally Dan material. I went down to my local record store (obviously not a Waterloo's) to buy myself a V-day present. Among the things they didn't have were: Far Cry, China Crisis, Michael Frank's Blue Pacific, Eye to Eye, Rosie Vela, and the Rikki Lee Jones album with "The Horses". They had one copy of NYR&SR. I'm listening to it now; Phoebe Snow's hitting some notes that would have intimidated Minnie Ripperton. "At Last", the old Etta James song, is worth the cost of the record.---I saw, but didn't get, the Porcaro tribute album that had practically every Steely Dan session buddy I could think of. Has anyone heard this one?
Oleander--How's that New York City? I heard from an expert that oleanders don't grow in NY.
Vicariously Groovin' w/ Eddie, Mike & Don,
RS
Name: Slimmy
southofokl@hom@
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 19:55:40
Comments:
Every city should be blessed with an independent record store like the one we have in Austin: Waterloo Records. (It's mentioned in this month's Rolling Stone). Not only will you find "The New York Rock and Soul Revue" stocked 5 deep, but probably a used copy of Michael Frank's "Blue Pacific" for $4.99. No kidding. It's a candystore for musicos. Vinyl too.
Name: Mock Turtle
Knows.when.he's.be@ten
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 15:51:55
Comments:
Looking forward to the new album! Thanks, MrLP, for your synergy point. Well put.
On the topic of the new album, I understand they teasingly played some stuff from it while on tour. How did the songs sound? Anyone?
Respectfully crawling into my shell,
MT
Name: RubyBaby
please p@ss the whup @ss
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 14:41:09
Comments:
Ohhh Anthonyyyyyyy? - Did you blow out my candles? And where do you think you're taking us that we haven't been before? Is there a New Frontier?Lieutenant Worf, Mook Gah Tah!! (translated: Get your hairy butt over there and re-light those candles!)
RazorBoy - Now that you mention it, the diversity within Nightfly and Kamakiriad is one of the best parts. I just got Kama a few weeks ago, so I'm still soaking it up. So far, I like Tomorrow's Girls best.
and RazorBoy - all I ask of you...
rb
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 13:56:05
Comments:
It is great to see the pages of the Banyan Trees back to some truly reflective Steely Dan musings. Things were getting a little strung out there in late summer, and fall. " Kamikiriad" and "Nightfly" were great albums because of their diversity, not just between the two efforts, but within each one. Several artists seem to have a common hook in most tracks within one album but "Kamiriad" and "Nightfly" don't seem to fall into that pattern. The new release is much anticipated, but for me, who has never seen them in concert, I hope a tour is being considered
Ruby Baby - How did you know I was a pushover for amber brew? By the shimmer of 50 candles, and our enigmatic heroes providing inspiration with, say, "Rose Darling," it would be tough not to hunker down on a Sunday afternoon with some cold mugs of "Sam Adams," or "Catamount" and enjoy the ensuing glow.
"Ruby Dahling, draw me another pint of that fine amber lager."
Name: MrLP
@thanks
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 at 13:21:40
Comments:
Dr Mu: Synergy. Pretty accurate corporate lingo for SD.
Aja: Gestalt just about does the trick. Maybe I'm thinking more along the lines of the noun equivalent for an adjective like "whup-ass."
N