SIS Archives -- February '99


Name: Original Lester
Standing on the Outside....

Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 at 22:40:35

Ole- If you love me, let me hear you say....

Visions is my favorite Stevie song. A thing of pure beauty, that song is. I think Hotter Than July was probably the last great album he made. Are you familiar with Secret Life of Plants at all? It bombed with the critics and more so in record stores, but it was still pretty good. Most fans had been expecting Songs in the Key of Life Part II, and, obviously, that wasn't going to happen. Stevie wasn't interested in that anyway. There are some real gems on that album. "As" is also one of his best.

Name: oleander
cash in your face

Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 at 21:48:28

OL--yes, I'm a big fan of that-era Stevie. Last week was doing dishes to Innervisions.... Also love Hotter Than July and Fulfillingness.

Doc K--E me about New Orleans!

St. Al--You don't miss your water.... I was stricken when I tried to log on Fri. night.... Just want you to know that I have the utmost faith in you and know that everything will be back up and smooth as butta, baby in a jiffy.

KDF--Your submission to feverdreams got wiped, and not by me. If you still have it, e it to me again. Same goes for any other recent contributors--except for you, Schwinn--RTB may not know what she's doing with that thing, but she got it here anyway.

Name: Original Lester

Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 at 20:32:23

Thanks, GK Reeshard,
I actually thought of that today, myself. I suddenly remembered the magic that my graphic artist friend could pull off with t-shirts (unforch for me, he now works on Nickelodeon's Catdog).

Yet another thought: I may have asked this before, but do we have any Stevie Wonder fans hitting this site? I think that if I was to recommend any other artist to an SD fan, it would be Stevie in the 70s. Tonight I was listening to Music of My Mind (1971). Damn, that's some good shit. Stevie had also succeeded at the unlikely combination of jazz-based music with thoughtful, interesting lyrics. Stevie is also a master of vocal melodies. Truly a great musician and songwriter. If you want to try your hand at Stevie, take some time with Innervisions or Songs in the Key of Life. Don't judge this man's work on "I Just Called to Say I Love You." For most of the 70's, Stevie was one of the best things going.

Name: Good King Rich
bony Satre... won't you take me by the hand

Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 at 14:48:27

Original Lester - simplest solution: do it yourself! Scan the cover of Aja and take it on disc along to your local t-shirt producer/printer. They might even bleed out the black for you. Alternatively, they may have a scanner or someone here may be able to e-mail you a .gif or jpg of it. Plan C, of course, is to cut out the LP cover and paste it on over your old Megadeath t-shirt... you might need to change the tour dates on the back tho'. Plan D is a pack of crayons.

Your everlasting summer, you can see it fading fast...


Name: Original Lester

Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 at 11:31:14

Anybody know where I can get an Aja t-shirt? I just want a black shirt with the album cover on the front. Not exactly somthing you find at your corner drugstore.

Name: Maxine

Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 at 09:05:16

You find out the darnedest thing on-line! But, given it's name, what HAVE they been doing with that cat?

(OK, I admit it, I've got nothing better to do!)

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 at 01:58:07

When I was small I watched a movie who was very scary (at the time). It was about some guy who owed his dealer drugmoney. The dealer came to his apartment and cut his face in pieces with a razor. I never forgot that scene.

So for me it's pretty obvious what the lyrics is about.

And when I was even smaller, I spent a lot of time in the woods and I had a secret "hidingplace", a cave. It was a very special place for me. Nobody knew about it.

So "Caves of Altamira" is about me, when I was small.

RUBYBABY - I forgot Tasha! She aint reding this is she? And no, no puppies, I managed to stop him in the last second!

Name: Original Lester

Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 at 01:08:49

Katy- Right here. Alive and breathing.

Pretty cool ideas on Razor Boy. Honestly, I never thought that deeply about it, but I've always loved the song, assuming that it was a sort of warning to a woman that disaster was looming. Remember, Don and Walt were happy to leave the lyrics to multiple interpretations, and not just as a way to throw us all off. They rule.

Name: Schwinn

Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 at 20:13:45

Of course, the Razor Boy could be a studio editor, an engineer or producer. In the old days magnetic tape was edited on a splicing block with a razor blade. Just a thought. However I believe the most obvious is the fact. The Razor Boy is synonymous with cocaine.

Saw it in a Woody Allen Movie,


Name: JustKatyDanFan

Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 at 19:40:51

Maxine, Dr. Mu, and Stranger: I believe you three should add your interpretations of Razor Boy to Oleander's page, if they're not already there! (Maxine, that was my favorite Dylan song for a long, long time :) btw, since so many shared their vital statistics with you, I'll tell you that I'm a *no longer thirty-something, married female in PA who loved SteelyDan from the time I heard them in my twenties, but as of about ten years ago discovered I need to have them with me at all times!" )

Ruby: lol.....yep, classic Dan moment, sales people, etc. must often wonder how we get so happy all of a sudden! And I often think people driving by us in the car must wonder what we're smiling about all the time.

Oswald: Love your idea, can't we get a GB section up close?
How about putting us in the front row, somehow??

Where is everyone? O Michael, Herm, Original Lester, Rose, Josie, Ole, Home, BigFan, Bob Tedde, Edd??

El Supremo: "... You walked in....and my life began again..."

Just Katy :)

Name: Maxine
Who is the "razor boy" -- my 2 cents

Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 at 15:28:08

It seems to me that Steely Dan's "Razor Boy" may be similar to Bob Dylan's "mystery tramp" in "Like a Rolling Stone"

Each song seems to describe the downfall of a character (probably a woman) who has tried elevate herself in society, and has alienated a friend (probably a man, most likely a lover) in the process. The friend/lover sees that she will inevitably be destroyed by her over-reaching and has tried to intervene but has been pushed away. This has made the friend/lover bitter which accounts for the tone of song which implies some sort of satisfaction will be felt by the friend/lover when the inevitable finally becomes reality.

(Of course all this is just MY interpretation, and I doubt if anyone will agree with me. I haven't researched it or anything, these are just my impressions.)

Name: DrMu

Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 at 14:42:37

Stranger: It just occurred to me that your post was probably humorous - good one...shouldn't take it so seriously...back to my life

Name: DrMu
lay? - Oh, must be about Clinton

Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 at 12:51:23

Stranger: Lyrics are not made to be compared with forensic medicine. They're alive and always NOW. Lyrics mean whatever they mean to that individual. In the case of JFK, despite the Stone movie, it's officially accepted that Oswald is the lone gunmen because there is simply no concrete evidence to the contrary (no empty rifle casings on the grassy knoll). Here the evidence is in the lyrics, and you have no obligation to accept my alternative. Frankly, I don't see that the drug interpretation is any less obvious than the least it wasn't obvious to me at 18 when I first heard the song. It is true that Dan (Walter's influence) may not have been careful about tense and consistency...sort of a montage of thoughts on an idea, often, but not always meant to fit meter, rhyme and juxtapose melody (like the Hill Street Blues Theme contrasted with the video montage). By the way, if you are going to be a tight-ass, at least have the courtesy to find the lyrics - here, I'll help you:

I hear you are singing a song of the past
I see no tears
I know that you know it may be the last
For many years

You'd gamble or give anything
to be in with the better half
But how many friends must
I have to begin with to make you laugh

Chorus: Will you still have a song to sing
When the razor boy comes and takes your fancy things away
Will you still be singing it on that cold and windy day

You know that the coming is so close at hand
You feel all right
I guess only women in cages can stand
This kind of night

I guess only women in cages
can play down
The things they lose
You think no tomorrow will come
when you lay down
You can't refuse

Name: TheStranger
what's the big deal?

Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 at 10:43:02

dr. mu et al,
seems like everyone wants to believe the obvious is not possible. that oswald couldn't have shot jfk cause it's too obvious. that razor boy could not be a clockwork-orange type character coming to get you cause it's too obvious. and etc. but i will check out the lyrics again sometime and see if there is anything else lurking in razor boy beyond the obvious.

Name: RubyBaby
Alice, Dallas Alice

Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 at 10:34:24

Clas: A Ridgeback named Alice? We must not tell Tasha.
(However, if there are puppies, please let me know. I can keep a secret.)

Mitch: Way to go shopping! The most amazing Dan moment I had while shopping was hearing Tomorrow's Girls at Petsmart.

Oh yeah - and I heard Throw Back the Little Ones at a department store. I was the happiest & most content person at the make-up counter. The sales girl was so impressed with my ability to wait with patience, she gave me mega samples of Estee Lauder!


Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 at 09:16:32

ive got all these mint condition L.Ps.
they are all in really exellent nick,
any DAN FAN interested please contact me
for a list of titles from PRETZEL LOGIC
to GAUCHO,NIHTFLY,ect I know you already
have most these albums but they may be worn out!
regards JIMBO.

Name: DrMu

Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 at 07:51:59

"Razor Boy" is often thought of as an allegory for death. Sure sounds like it could be: the "lay down" line at the end. But the thing that bothers me is the implication that the woman in the song probably seems to know the Razor Boy ix coming, and the line about "playing down the things they lose" is strange when the end is "death." Maybe it's the type of death - not the end of physical life. Of course, the crudest interpretation is that the Razor Boy is cocaine as razors are used to set up "lines" of the drug (at least that's what I've seen in the movies! - left Lonnie's playroom a long time ago).

Anyway here's another interpretation: "Razor Boy" involves a woman who has been singing material and possibly producing her own recordings of high musical integrity. She's decided to "sell out" and perform for primarily monetary and status-related reasons. Are the cages guilded? The narrator believes that this will come back to haunt her. Will she be unsuccessful in her commercial endeavors? Will she feel guilt? They are both torn: he between pity and scorn. As she enters the world of corporate music, she'll lose her artistic "soul" and/or her talent. Her "death" is that of a legitimate artist. Could it even be that the woman is Barbara Streisand?...who they once wrote a song for?

Name: Clas

Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 at 03:54:27

Wrigley Memorial Garden Found'n ownes 37.85 acres.

Name: Clas
@ work with Pompe

Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 at 01:14:07

StAl - is it very hard for you to answer an email? You can answer here if you like.

LESTER - I don't know if I've said this before, I have dog, and sure, it's a Great Dan.

Last night he met a girl, a Ridgeback, nine months old, and he fell in love. The Ridgebacks name is Alice, also a dandom name ("you're not my Alice").

SO, this big Dan has Alice on his mind now. All night he was wandering round the apartment, yelling, and at last I had to take a walk with him half past one, 1.30 pm. We went down to the playground were he met Alice. Convinced of that she wasn't there, we made it back home and fell asleep.

AFTER 19 years I've picked up the sheetmusic to Babylon Sisters, and I must say, it's beautiful music. There's a line in all those jungle chords. The Rhodes intro is devils great. Yes! I love it!

Thanks StAl for those CD's, you made me rediscover The Two.

What's the name of that chewing gum-family who owns Catalina Island - Wrigleys?

Did you know; if you live there you have to wait seven (7) years before you can ship a car over to the island. And there's no Mac Donalds there.

Name: Return to Brenda

Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 at 00:12:17

St. Al

It's all my fault. My careless use of the Extendo-Dan 2000 has created a chronic kink in the virtual frontier. This problem is far beyond a simple spin of your favorite fix-it utlility--and though archive retrieval will work for awhile--the real bugaboo is replicating faster than a Saudi street vendor can dispense bootlegged tetracyclin. I'm working on an antidote and plan on cutting Ming's hair as soon as I can earn his trust.

Up, Up With Bloomers,


Name: Wurlitzer
Location: round the corner, NY USA
Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 at 23:55:55

St. Al: How many other Zappa characters are out there? Aja will be online soon. She is one great editor, and as she states, one or two step degrees away from the most ...

The answer you seek St. Al lies in a root.

Anyone up for a riddle? D.

Name: !!!!!Leon the superfly!!!!
@wake &
Location: funk, CA any
Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 at 22:50:34

Lester- I have a dog named cop killer, but hes named after an Ice T song! The next dog i'll name Kid Charlamange'! "and thats not a typo either u anal spell checkers!"

whats this i hear about our boys having a little scratchin and mixin going on and one session musician in perticular is a local new york favorite DJ in the techno club scene, maybe were going here a little bit of 90's hip hop sound in the new one laced gently behind the smooth jazz riffs of beckers guitar! It could be interesting!!!


Name: Oswald
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA
Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 at 22:43:00

Has there ever been a mail order way to get tickets to shows, ala GDTS. If not, what do Don and Walt think about the idea for the upcoming tour? I'd even help set it up. Just a few sections up close. Nothing major. Maybe one of the sections could be for tapers. Any chance?

Name: mitch
in the supermarket

Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 at 22:42:40

thursday while in the video section i heard the song gold teeth and today i heard New Frontier

Name: Jerry Seinfeld
What is with these guestbooks?

Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 at 22:23:23

I mean, hey. What's the deal with a blank screen when I'm trying to log on? And why do they call it "log on?" I mean, there's no logs involved at all. And what's with St. Al? I mean, he's probably no saint at all, and if he is, what's he doing spending time on this website? I mean, doesn't he know that we've still got a world full of war and famine? Somebody help this man. Somebody help me.

Name: Original Lester

Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 at 22:18:10

My cat is named Josie. Anyone else have pet and/or kid names from Dandom?

Name: Geena
finally, my GB fix!

Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 at 21:57:13

StAl: I can get you a cached copy, but can it wait until Monday? I have it on my computer at work.

Let me know.

Name: TheKatyDanFan
"...sure is spooky in here with no posts..."

Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 at 21:48:25

Adding my two cents to make the GB seem like home again!

St.Al: You mean we're lost in cyberspace? (I hope you locate the black flight recorder box so you can hear what happened just before the crash.)

JustKaty :)

Name: StAlphonzo

Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 at 21:27:23

As you can see the guestbook script crashed again. Not sure whats causing this? I think it might have to do with size. Until I can figure out what is causing this problem I will be archiving this page more frequently. I apologize for the inconvenience.

Once again I'm in need of a cached copy. If anyone can help I would appreciate it.


Name: Sherlock

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 12:41:26

"Thirty days later, I received my VISA statement from Neiman-Marcus..."

Really? Neiman-Marcus sends you your Visa bill?

"I looked again and I remembered I had only spent $9.95 for two salads..."

So that would be $4.97.5 per salad, right? I'd remember that also.

"...and about $20.00 for a scarf. As I glanced at the bottom of the statement, it said, "Cookie Recipe - $250.00"

So you had to remember what you paid for the salads and scarf, but the VISA bill itemized the cookie entry? Isn't that odd!

This story has more holes in it than the Albert Hall...

Name: TheStranger
The Future

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 12:39:19

Bulletin from the Year 2040

Walter Becker reportedly sat up in bed today and asked for his dentures. The news prompted an outpouring of joy among the tightly-knit assembly of Dan fans waiting on the lawn of his new york area nursing for some sign of activity that they say would lead to another steely dan album. meanwhile, in hawaii, an almost identical groups of aging fanatics said they were sure becker would do something cool any moment.

"We expect a new album in the spring of 2041 to be followed by a tour," said an old, old but enthusiastic woman named oleander. oleander, it was said, ran a web site dedicated to steely dan in the old internet days, before thoughts and data were transmitted atmospherically. "You can say that again," said a wizened man respectfully referred to as st. al by the other members of the group in hawaii. st. al said the optimistic dan fans have been expecting a new album since 1980.

observers have been unable to figure out why the rev. sun yung moon jr., ruler of the universe, has not wiped out the dan fanatics along with the other heretics. but it is rumored that master moon listens to something called "gaucho" late at night in the bowels of his palace.

Name: Bytemee2.a

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 12:31:44

Funny, we don't care what you think either, and instead of using "I could give a shit less", you should say, "I don't give a shit". What is a shit less?

I think it's wonderful how you can see through your computer screen. You seem to know how old we all are, how bored we are and how many wrinkles we have as well as who we hang out with, what our sexual preference is and what we do with it on our keyboards. Instead of spending your time lurking on this gb, you should be donating your brain to science before more cells die off.

idiot Police:
I don't like the name "Two Against Nature" either. That make two against you, now who's the idiot? Do you always feel the need to spout off angrily when someone doesn't agree with you?

Name: Chipster

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 12:16:40

That was stupid.

Name: don't shoot

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 12:12:46

pretty much what i heard, too.


Name: A thinking Man

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 10:18:00

Cookie Monster, You could have saved yourself some money by going to and punching in Nieman Marcus Cookies. Click on recipe and it's right there in black and white.

Name: The idiot Police

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 10:09:23

Ruby- I happen to like the name "Two Aganist Nature". Do you really believe the messenger? If you do, you're a bigger idiot then I thought!

Name: Edd

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 09:48:20

True story, ha...

That urban legend has been around since dirt.

Name: Cookie Monster

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 09:10:37

A True story!

My daughter & I had just finished a salad at Neiman-MarcusCafe in Dallas & decided to have a small dessert. Because both of us are such cookie Lovers, we decided to try the "Neiman-Marcus cookie."

It was so excellent that I asked if they would give me the recipe
and the waitress said with a small frown, "I'm afraid not but, you can buy the recipe." Well, I asked how much, and she responded, "Only two fifty, it's a great deal!" I agreed with approval, just add it to my tab I told her.

Thirty days later, I received my VISA statement from Neiman-Marcus and it was $285.00. I looked again and I remembered I had only spent $9.95 for two salads and about $20.00 for a scarf. As I glanced at the bottom of the statement, it said, "Cookie Recipe - $250.00" That's outrageous! I called Neiman's Accounting Dept. and told them the waitress said it was "two-fifty," which clearly does not mean "two hundred and fifty dollars" by any *POSSIBLE* interpretation of the phrase.

Neiman-Marcus refused to budge. They would not refund my money, because according to them, "What the waitress told you is not our
problem. You have already seen the recipe. We absolutely will not
refund your money at this point." I explained to her the criminal statueswhich govern fraud in Texas. I threatened to refer them to the Better Business Bureau and the State's Attorney General for engaging in fraud.

I was basically told, "Do what you want, it doesn't matter, and we're not refunding your money." I waited, thinking of how I could get even, or even try and get any of my money back. I just said, "Okay, you folks got my $250, and now I'm going to have $250.00 worth of fun." I told her that I was going to see to it that every Cookie lover in the United States with an e-mail account has a $250.00 cookie recipe from Neiman-Marcus...for free. She replied, "I wish you wouldn't do this." I said, "Well, you should have thought of that before you ripped me off," and slammed down the phone on her.

So here it is!!! Please, please, please pass it on to everyone you can possible think of. I paid $250 for this...I don't want
Neiman-Marcus to ever get another penny off of this recipe.

>NEIMAN MARCUS COOKIES (Recipe may be halved)
>2 cups butter
>4 cups flour
>2 tsp. soda
>2 cups sugar
>5 cups blended oatmeal ***
>24 oz. chocolate chips
>2 cups brown sugar
>1 tsp. Salt
>1 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated)
>4 eggs
>2 tsp. baking powder
>2 tsp. Vanilla
>3 cups chopped nuts (your choice)
>*** Measure oatmeal and blend in a blender to a fine powder. Cream the butter and both sugars. Add eggs and vanilla, mix together with flour, oatmeal, salt, baking powder, and soda. Add chocolate chips, Hershey Bar and nuts. Roll into balls and place two inches apart on a cookie sheet. Bake for 10 minutes at 375 degrees.

Makes 112 cookies. Have fun!!!

Name: RubyBaby
I see opportunity in the South

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 08:57:31

Don't Kill the Messanger: Whew! I hated the name Two Against Nature. It's got no punch whatsofuckingEVER!

RazorBoy: Did you ever get a copy of 11 Tracks yet? I'd love to hear your take on some of it.

Lester the Nightfly: Is that a self-portrait you did at the end of your post, just over your LTNF? Dang...

Artie: I really care what Clas likes. I don't always like what he likes, but I care. So there.

Commander Hold 'em: I love poetry. It says a lot in few words. But why is most poetry on the down side of life? Your poem rocks anyway.

Maxine: Jeans & pearls are a classic combo. I heard that at the first Eastcoast Danfest, Oleander showed up in just that - jeans & pearls (and that's all!) What great kahunas!


Name: JoeM

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 07:43:10

GKR - The tunes mentioned are circa 1960's when Monk was with Columbia... They appear on "The Composer" and "Greatest Hits" among others...

OL - "... But I don't think a 15 minute improv jam can be said to be inherently superior to a 3 minute rock song..." -- Couldn't agree more. That's why we're all here instead of over at the Sign In Stockhausen Guestbook.

Anyone attending any of the Allman Bros shows at The Beacon in the coming weeks? It's a sobering thought but we're approaching the 30th aniversary of that incredible Filmore East session.

Name: Bytemee2
you've got detention

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 07:11:54

Bytemee: i think you need to visit your local shopping mall and purchase a few brain cells for yourself, and after they have been installed, i hope you grow up, become an adult and get yourself a life.

Thank you

Name: Bytemee

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 06:05:29

El Supremo--You are truly a dork. I could give a shit less what you or any of the other jerkoffs in this 'guestbook' think. You're all a bunch of aging, bored, wrinkled old pretentious geeks anyway. This 'guestbook' is cliquish and waaay to high on pretention for it's own britches. You all need to get a life and quit masturbating on your keyboard, hoping that Donald or Walter will see your posts. The keys tend to stick anyway. I'll 'spar' with you any day, you lame fagget. What a jackass.

Name: Commander Hold 'Em

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 05:54:10

the midnight of no TV. muscle-bound circus clown. from a childhood dream. stares at me. scares me. from the drug house. on the corner near my street. i could be young again like zen and too much sun. blue thoughts on this blue day. finding a cold body on your doorstep. to bring in near the fire. your apprehension of the person you didn't expect who creeps near your door. a car crash noise in the distance. and broken glass. thoughts of your own mediocrity and you of little faith. the black and white hour. a strange design invades my skull. to crash another day inside me. the grief like past that pours through open windows. pouring down the floor into the armchair. into bones. and seeps into cracks and skin. to make me cold like a monster.

Name: oopsss...
forgot: .

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 05:41:23

Name: ..

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 03:22:47

VH1 special at the end of april. Tour, September.

Name: Clas

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 at 00:51:37

Lars - yeah, I really liked Made In Sweden. Did you ever go to those places in Stockholm (during the happy progg-era), Bullerbyn, Magnus Ladulås, Kurbits, Mocambo etc...?

I used to play those places. Damn, that was fun. Free beer and 15 dollars.

And about G Wadenius, did you ever listen to his soloalbum he did before he went over to the states to play with Blood Sweat & Tears? Man, that was bad.

Geena - I'm pretty sure that Ferry mean Avalon, the town on Catalina Island. Did you never go there while you were an Angelino? It's an awsome place, so cool.

Zeke - well. I think we have to make some plans soon. My email is above.

Name: Original Lester

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 21:46:52

I say we go ahead and kill the messenger, along with those guys in Jasper. Heard today that a group of women are suing Alabama over the dildo law. You go, girls.

Unoriginal Lester: I actually share your view on jazz to some extent. When I listen to music, I listen for a SONG. Sue me, but I'm a sucker for at least some structure. I don't think I'm a lesser music fan because I'd rather listen to Zeppelin or the Stones than some cool cat hotdogging on whatever instrument he's played since age 3. I think Monk and Wes are great, and Miles certainly provided some fine structure for his bandmates. But I don't think a 15 minute improv jam by albeit fantastic musicians can be said to be inherently superior to a 3 minute rock song. I'm trying to get more into jazz, myself, but it's a slow process because, honestly, I'd fall into a coma if I listened to it all day. Jazz snobs suck serious ass.

"Look at her nipple sticking out"...."Boy, I'd love to...."

Haven't heard any Neil Finn stuff since Woodface, which was disappointing. Be sure when you are checking out the Judd era that you don't judge them on their very first album, Mental Notes. It was awful. Hence the title of the second album, Second Thoughts. Three songs were salvaged for 2nd Thoughts and reworked beautifully with the guidance of Phil Manzanera (of Roxy Music). One of them, Time For a Change, is probably my favorite Enz song of all. It was written by Judd, but sung by Tim Finn, who also plays piano. Late Last Night, Walking Down a Road, and Stranger Than Fiction are the other gems. Give it a few listens, and don't be afraid of the mellotron. At the time, they had a drummer, Emlyn Crowther, a dumpy looking moptop dude who was amazing on drums.

I think Don and Walt should crash the Oscars and perform Show Biz Kids.

Name: Don't kill the

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 19:55:26

Latest news ... the new CD will be pushed back to Nov/Dec. Also, no tour this year; looking at 2000 ... Also, probably won't be called 'Two Against Nature' (that was kind of a joke that got taken seriously).

Sorry everybody.

Name: GirlFred

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 17:56:53

DrMu & fezo,
Do you like the work that Andy Summers did/does with Fripp? and have you ever heard any of the stuff that RF did in West Virginia.. Music for Non Musicians, I think. I like that whole circle of music... levin, bruford, sylvian, laswell
There is something about Fripp that very much makes me think of Mr's Becker and Fagen. Do you get that? It might be more of an approach than the end product ... Stewart Copeland. He is a wildman. The Rythmatist ... great album.. hmm... kind of caught in the eighties.

Almost picked up a couple of Animal Logic cd's... a vague memory of liking them ... you familiar?

Take Care,

Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 17:33:19

I guess it's all already in the can but the guitarist I would most like to hear on a new Steely Dan recording . . . Eric fiance bought me a pre- "Tones" cd last week by him with alternate takes of Zap and Bristol Shores and it really rocks. Hope he'll tour again this year too. The Dan and EJ in the same summer would be fantastic.....oh yeah, throw in some Dave Matthews to close out the year!

Edd....thanks for the info. going into penny pincher mode hoping to get the 880 or the new version of it (if they release it this Spring).

if u want your honey to look super swell

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 16:10:28

Hey people whats up? I will be in Zephyrhills, Fl during the second weekend of Jazzfest! So i wont be able to make it to New Orleans. I'm sorry to disappoint all of my fans, lol!

I will miss being there with u all, doing god knows what!
I have a few ideas, but i hope the next danfest will be close to home for me here in sunny west central Florida, btw 65 and sunny today.

Dave and Al- Nice talkin with ya guys last night!

Wheres' Lisa?

King- I believe those 2 notes your talkin about r E and B.

How many sting fans do we have here? I love that dude, his music i mean, not in a prison kind of way of course. anyway Tea in the Sahara is one of my personal favorites, very dan oriented! I wish those guys didnt hate each other so much i would love to see the Police and Steely Dan on a double bill this summer!

Les- "I can already see the goose pimples have risen on the thighs of the young Romanian girl"

Everybodys talkin about Jazz, unlike most of u all SD has not got me into listening to more Jazz. I try but i cant get into it.
I do like listening to Jazz live though! Maybe it has something to do with the boring DJ's.


Name: Good King Rich
at work

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 15:25:24

Dr Mu / Joe M

Maybe Donald's just a Blue Note man. Were all those Monk compositions on Blue Note?... As there's also Horace Silver's 'Song For My Father' as the unmistakeable two note intro to 'Rikki' that drives the entire song.


Name: JoeM

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 14:47:49

Replace "'Round Midnight"" with "Ruby, My Dear" below...

Name: DrMu
Location: There,
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 14:06:47

JoeM: Yes, especially at the very beginning of the "Fire in the Hole" intro. I knew he was a big fan - finally got to hear the piece played by Mr. Steve Khan & Fagen on the Monk Tribute album -interesting (Thanks O).

Name: Somebody (screaming someplace)

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 13:08:56

MILKMAN: Your mail is bouncing. Shit, I hate that.

Oops, sorry, that was, but I'm real excited about June 8th (how's that, better?).

Name: JoeM
Well You Needn't

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 13:07:26

Dr Mu,

... "Monk's influence on 'My Old School'..."


In my mind the quintessential Monk influenced Dan piano cut has gotta be the intro to "Fire In The Hole". Also "Sign In Stranger" is a good candidate. Oh, and "I Got The News" and....

BTW, listen to "Kulee Baba" and Monk's unaccompanied "'Round Midnight" from 11/19/68 back to back. Fagen is quite the Monk enthusiast.

Sideman stuff:
Brecker and Metheny to colaborate yet again in May on a new Brecker project for Impulse...

Name: DrMu
King of Typos

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 12:20:27

Home: Thanks for educating the young-un, but...God knows, when I come here I type fast and never spell check and don't worry about the dots, except for after the fact...but even I try make sure that Mssrs. Fagen's and Becker's names are spelled correctly.

Zeke: Yeah, I like the way Donald's vocals are up in the mix in "The Nighfly" and "Gaucho." They seem a bit buried on Kamakiriad. How about the strength of his vocals on "True Companion" from the same period?...even given the backups by Zack Sanders and I think Fagen - sounds like they're tripling the voices.

fezo: No one outside the jazz realm could trade leads back and forth like the Police. The fact that they hated each other lead to an interesting kind of competition as they danced around Sting's spare, modal, yet hook-filled tunes. and Copeland's drumming on say Zenyatta Mondatta is worth listening to by itself. Not much chance of a reunion.

RD, OL: an Enz reunion to start off the "millenium" (why wait another year?). Too bad Paul Hester and Nick Seymour aren't included. They're a much better rhythm section than Crombie and Griggs (?). I did check out some samples of Phil Judd's version of Split Enz - VERY idiosyncratic and interesting...mandolins, banjos and kind of a ragtime bathouse kind of thing going. Not really my cup of tea, but could be appealing to many. Neil Finn really tightened them up. First heard the (as did many) in college with "I Got You." Very seductive. Besides the Finn Bros. vocals and songwriting, the key to me was Eddie Raynor's swirling keyboards. Perfect in creating moods like "Six Months in a Leaky Boat" and "Dirty Creature." He could accent Tim's excesses in the right way and provided the right fill for Neil's more straight ahead tunes like "One Step Ahead." I have to admit I'm a bigger Crowded House fan, because of the more consistent songwriting and the rhythm section Neil Finn's recent solo CD is very good, but I would be surprised to see him back in some sort of band - though I'm not sure the Enz thing is anything but a one time deal.

OL, Stranger, et al: Listening to the Dan late in high school and college did get me thinking of jazz and starting to listen to it again. As a young'un in the Chicagoland area I heard quite a bit of jazz and blues and really liked hit. When I was 9 we moved to North Carolina where all we could pick up was Country, Country, Country & Western, Top 40, and Muzak on the transistor. My Dad did have considerable big band records and a few straight ahead Dixieland, but he was not a bop fan.

JoeM., Ole: I've only started listening to Monk in the last few years. I play a CD simply titled Monk now and again lately. Very tricky rhythms/syncopation. When I first started listeing to him, I would hear somethings and wonder was that a mistake? He just had a different way of hearing things - a real innovator. Do you hear Monk's influence on the piano intro to "My Old School" too? I may have to put on the "thermal suit light," but I hear some Monk in Harry Connick Jr's tinkling of the ivories.

Lars: Walter Becker's guitar solos remind me of John McLaughlin's work with Miles. How about you?

Name: Home
Location: Mtl WayUpThere,
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 10:41:53

Diller :
album is Donald Fagan's The Nightfly...track name is New Frontier.

A sweet hello to the Multuplets.

Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 10:10:34

Zeke: Yeah, I was there, too! I had already seen the 94 show in Chicago... and 2 shows in 93 (Chicago/St. Louis)... but I remember the same spine-tingling sensation the very first time... it was so sweet! And with each additional show it's the same. I suspect that for somebody that is into music as much as I (I say that knowing it's all relative as to what or how much music means to one person versus another person) going to a Dan show is somewhat comparable to, say, being Catholic and seeing the Pope (no, not God)... It means just as much to you each time. You could die knowing you saw at least once but you'd like to see as many times as possible.

Anyway, have you decided which stages you're gonna be at?

Name: diller gillespie
Location: glasgow, scotland
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 09:01:17

as a recent newcomerto steely dan i know very little about them. There is a song which has the lines "do you have a steady girlfriend?" and " make up my mind to learn design and study overseas"
I would be very grateful if somebod could email me and tell me what the name of the song is because I cant get it out of my head.
Thankyou all

Name: Zeke
dodging the flu

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 08:43:18

Man, I'm heavy into I.G.Y. today. Very nice piece of work, Donald. Seems it picked up where Gaucho left off. Nice horns, backing vocals, KB solo's, very sooothing music. His voice seems the strongest ever on this one.

Doc: Jazz Fest, I'll be there both weekends. Have not made any contact with Clas or Ole. Don't know of any special plans yet, If you plan on going this year, the Fest is killer enough, any Dan reunion would be lagniappe.

The Dan show in Dallas, 94 started with a little Dan medley, kind of funky beginning, then ran right into the relaxing, opening chord of AJA. That was awesome. At the time I couldn't begin to guess what the opening song would be, when it was AJA, I knew the 20 year wait was worth it.

Name: Artie

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 06:42:29

Lars, Who really cares what Clas likes?

Name: Lars
swedish and proud

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 03:33:47

Original Lester - there“s (at least) one thin connection between Dan and Wes - Georg Wadenius (AIA, Kama). He started as a local Wes-wannabe and made some very good albums late 60ies and early 70ies with his band called Made in Sweden. I think even Clas (hates Jazz) liked them!

Name: Jack O'Speed
@the $64,000 question

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 02:47:42
Comments: it goes...luvs or pampers?
p.s. hi geena, hi lisa.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 at 00:56:20

I hate jazz.

Doc Kelly - Nerium Ole - Lisa - SunnySam - Ruby ... yes, who is coming and when?

Name: Original Lester

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 23:16:29

To my disappointment, Leon did not play Delta Lady or Bluebird. He did play Back to the Island, Lady Blue, Magic Mirror, A Song For You, This Masquerade, many others. His voice sounds the same as it ever has, and I'll let you be the judge of whether or not that's a good thing. He did reworked versions of most of his songs. Some of them were okay, some he should have stayed more true to the original. It was one of those shows where it was just good to see a great musician/songwriter, but it probably wouldn't win over any new fans.

Speaking of Jazz, I'm just starting to get into Wes Montgomery, and I know I have found one of Denny Dias' influences. My CD features more single-note lines than the octaves that Wes became famous for. I would be very surprised if Dias was not a Wes fan.

Name: mitch
Location: western pa.,
Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 22:23:12

Goodbye Siskel, your reviews were always on target Elton John`s best obviously was YELLOW BRICK ROAD and the best cut was funeral for a friend and love lies bleeding

Name: Razor Boy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 21:15:51

Ruby Baby - You got me again - Excuse me for my lack of confidence. I should have known better. Next time I sign in, I'll leave my ego on the counter, by your keys.... Glad to see you're still in fine form.


Name: Maxine jeans and pearls

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 19:35:26

Holy cow!
I go out of town for a few days (just coincidentally out of state, but never mind) and just LOOK what all I miss!
Someone wanted to know how many people I counted-- six including myself (29, Female, Married, Alabama) I hoped for more, but I guess sometimes you have to take what you can get, and since there was some reference to everyone else having "been there, done that" I thought it best to call it quits with what I had. I agree that it wasn't a very representative sample but what can I say? Better luck to the next one who tries it.

So the June 8 release has been confirmed?
When will there be a tour schedule?

Name: Geena
Land of frozen tundra

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 18:54:16

Dear Mean Person: You and what army?

Original Lester: How is Leon's voice after all these years? Not a Dan moment: The story of your litle boy reminded me of my niece. When she was about a year old, she wouldn't go to sleep unless she heard Black Sabbath's "Paranoid". We would play it low and before the song was over, she was out. No lullabyes for her, she wanted to hear the Oz Man.

Clas: I don't know about a town named Avalon on Catalina Island, and I don't interpret lyrics very well, but there is a nightclub here named Avalon, maybe that's what he's singing about, Yes? You've got to listen to Manifesto, it's really great!

Double: Shapiro : Easton :: Brooklyn : Boston -- is that right? No?

Ruby: Still, it was a great come-back!

Dan Moments:
have been hearing the Dan on the car radio at least once or twice everyday for the past few weeks on several different stations. Very strange. Hmmm...could I be smelling prickly pear in the air?

Name: Q

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 18:54:02

I'm sure I'm the last to discover this awesome site, but for those who may not have yet,there is the MOST comprhensive list of Dan tour dates dating back to '72 that I have ever seen. Not all is 100% accurate but he even invites commentary to help tweak the accuracy, and he actually reacts to bonified corrections.This gentleman is to be applauded for his fine effort and work product.

URL is:

2 Against Nature - I thought that was Rush Limbaugh & Oliver North !

Can't wait for June,July,August,Sept !!!!!!!!


Name: Krewe
of Cleopatra
Location: Hangover City,
Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 17:03:59

1. I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day.
Tomorrow's not looking good either.

2. I love deadlines. I especially love the swooshing sound they
make as they go flying by.

3. Am I getting smart with you? How would you know?

4. I'd explain it to you, but your brain would explode.

5. Someday we'll look back on this and plow into a parked car.

6. There are very few personal problems that cannot be solved
through a suitable application of high explosives.

7. Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along
without it.

8. Accept that someday you're the pigeon, and someday you're the

9. Needing someone is like needing a parachute. If he isn't
there the first time you need him, chances are you won't be needing him again.

10. I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception

11. Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky
and thought to myself - "Where the hell is the ceiling???"

12. My reality check bounced.

13. On the keyboard of life, always keep one finger on the escape key.

14. I don't suffer from stress - I'm a carrier...

15. You're slower than a herd of turtles stampeding through
Peanut Butter!

16. Don't meddle in the affairs of dragons, cuz, like, you're
crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

17. Everybody is somebody else's weirdo...

18. Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their levelthen beat you with experience.

Name: RubyBaby

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 15:21:18

Geena: If you got a good laugh out my honest response it was worth it! What else can ya do when they say "blow me" in 2 languages? sheesh!

Coming Up you: The Cars!!! Honey, I will be there, yes I'll be there!
Budget is tight so I'll take it out of somewhere...I'll skip my hair appointment in March. (Rock&Roll hair!!)
I'll buy one for me & one for my daughter. I'll surprise her on one of her rough days.
Those teen years are a bitch!

Clas: Tack, baby. Det var hemskt snallt av dig (2 dots over the a- you know which word.) I can only do so much Svensk at once! I need a personal lesson...


Name: mindinfitum

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 13:07:32


Name: TheStranger
home at last

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 11:58:57

aja is more than jazz-influenced. the title track is, i believe, straight-ahead jazz -- terrific too, as you know. the dan also got me into jazz when i finally decided rock just isn't going anywhwere i want to be. but i'm more into smaller combos than the big band-ellington variety. btw, a really terrific sinatra cd was recorded at the sands in vegas with count basie doing backup. so much better than that percy faith kind of crap in background. with basie behind him you can hear why sinatra is one in a million.

original lester,
i forgot you're an l.a. guy. we should hook up when the boys play here this summer, as i expect they will.

Name: Coming Up

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 11:40:06

"The Cars: Deluxe Edition" from Rhino on street April 6th -- remastered debut with demos of all of 'em, plus 5 others.

Name: Double

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 11:33:27

Geena -- Shapiro : Easton :: Brooklyn : Massachusetts

Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch snow fest

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 10:14:50

Zeke/Ole/Clas: Is there a Danfest hotel of choice? Is there a Danfest gathering actually planned? I suppose I could come for the second weekend if that's when everybody else is going to show. How many GB'rs have shown interest?

Name: Zeke
where am I, what day is it?

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 09:42:19

Another Mardi Gras gone! What a freakin' party!
I had a feelin' any party with a 1999 theme would be a blow-out.
This was "the" biggest ever. Good weather, awesome floats, and, Jesus, what people will do for plastic beads, more bare flesh shown than ever. IS THIS A GREAT COUNTRY OR WHAT!!

Now it's time to move on, time to concentrate on the 99' Jazz Fess'/ Steely-Palooza. Too bad the band won't make it this year, hey, this festival is full of surprises? Anyway, Don, Walt, your invited to eat, drink, and frolic with the gang should you get the on'vee.

Name: Joe M.
Lurkin'@The Five Spot

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 08:09:05


About that piano jag... Funny, I always assume you are listening with us.

I've got "Bemsha Swing" and "Straight, No Chaser" on continous loop in my CD player much of the time. BTW, it strikes me just how much Fagen is influenced by Monk on "Kulee Baba". If you were to add Charlie Rouse and have Fagen cut loose a little over the top of those chord changes, you've got something that could drop right into any 60's era Monk session.

I know you're not a big Jarrett fan but... Tokyo '96 is absolutely astounding (incessant moaning notwithstanding). DeJohnette and Peacock are, as always, unique and interesting. One of the best of '98 IMHO. Sounds like you've been heavy into the beboppers of late but if you also like those lyrical types, i.e. Bill Evans, then you've gotta hear this one.

June 8th can't arrive soon enough for me... Kick off them high-heeled pro-Keds people... It's party time again this summer! Life is very good indeed.

Name: fezo

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 07:39:58

Rose: I must have mixed up my teen angst movie soundtracks. The Henley "Zoom" song is from Vision Quest, not Fast Times. It's a wonder our heroes didn't end up on the soundtrack to the latter. It was Azoff produced and from a look of the credits he was pulling material from all of the artists in his stable at the time.

SD fandom as a starting point for jazz listening: Most definitely. Before getting into Steely Dan, I thought of all jazz as navel-gazing improvs which never bothered to even try to connect to the listener. But after listening to SD, and hearing that a lot of that sound was jazz-influenced, I decided to give jazz another try. Glad I did. I now worship at the Miles altar almost weekly, and just this weekend started listening to some Duke Ellington for the first time.

Wow. CD player was rotating randomly from "Aja" to an Ellington London concert recording. I never thought horns and piano could sound so good, and integrated coherently musically. And especially with the horn sound, I could realy hear the jazz influence behind Aja.

Name: Lars
in Sweden

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 03:26:57

Farris: that“s an interesting line of thought. Before Katy Lied Dan was just another band. Great tunes and slick productions but... Then on Dr Wu that sound of Phil Woods really turned me on in the jazz direction. Yeah you“re probably right about Dan as jazzeducators, but there are a few others: John McLaughlin, Sly (and the other creators of funk), Zappa.

Name: Clas
puuhhhh, I'm so sorry...

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 02:22:49

Geena - that Ferry's Avalon-song, it is about Avalon, the town on Catalina Island?

By the way, it's the only Ferry-song I can stand to hear.

Goodnight St Louis, see you nexxt yeeaar!

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 02:17:34

OriginalLester - did he play "Delta Lady"?

Name: Clas

Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 at 01:30:45

The Stranger - you know, this Jasper-thing is not unique for USA. We have a lot of Nazis in Sweden and they use to beat people to death just because they are black or homosexual or whatever. These Nazis are young, stupid, without work and without future.

RubyBaby - I love your Swedish and I like the poem.

R.O.C.K. - your appology is accepted.

Today there's an ounce of spring in the air. Life is good.


Schwinn, is Hornsby pissed?

Name: Schwinn
illumin not eh?

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 23:21:36

Edd: The professional line of KORG non-linear editing bays have an excellent reputation. I guess I'm just experiencing buyer's remorse for acquiring an MDM-X4 though I have no gripes about it--especially when using an ART tube pre-amp to soften the digital signature. I know two producers in town who have turned out many jingles recorded entirely on the X4 with minimal post editing to DAT. I swear I cannot hear the supposed "compression" anomalies after the signal has been processed through ProTools and I know I have a damn good ear. Still, 8 tracks, no compression and a free M57 makes me wonder if I should go for the upgrade...

Also, if you have never visited a Mars' showroom, (also called the Musician's Planet), you should plan to visit one whenever convenient. The one in Austin is 35,000 sq. ft. AND sells the M57 EVERYDAY for $74.95. How 'bout them apples?

Finally--(and I wish I wasn't so durned discreet and trustworthy)--I just received a forwarded e-mail from the fella who's orchestrating the Dan's next tour and his trip to New York two weeks ago to meet the boys is the stuff of Steely legend. As soon as I get the "All Clear" I'll pass along the preposterous details but rest assured our two little smartys are still up to their old tricks...

Life is still Beautiful,


Name: Original Lester
I made it back somehow

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 21:36:59

Oh, and Funeral For a Friend/ Love Lies Bleeding is kind of okay, too.

Name: Original Lester

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 20:49:56

Just saw Leon Russell last night at LA House of Blues. Pretty cool to see him, although I'm surprised he wasn't on life support. Actually, he still kicks ass on piano.

All the Girls Love Alice, This Song Has No Title, I've Seen That Movie Too. Indeed Yellow Brick Road is Good Shit.

I never knew that Roxy could have ever ripped The Cars off (you're kidding, right). Incidentally, Same Old Scene and Over You are both on Flesh and Blood, which I think is one of their weakest albums. Manifesto is indeed a real treat, but make sure you hear Stranded. Sunset may be my favorite of all Roxy songs.

Cool Dan moment. We were staying at my mom's house on Friday night, and my kid (age 5) was taking just a bit too long to get tired. When we finally made him lie down, he requested SD on my mom's boombox. We slipped Gaucho in, and he was out by the second chorus of Babylon Sisters. Definitely multi-purpose music.

By the way, no dissing Dylan. If Two Against Nature is anything near as good as Bob's Time Out of Mind, I will be pleased, to say the least.

Happy belated, WB.

Name: Mean Person

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 19:44:48

Geena, Watch out girl or I'll have to send you back into hibernation.

Name: Geena
again, for a reason

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 19:14:43

Ruby: HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That was great!!!!

You go big time Girl!

Name: Geena
livin' on the other side of no tomorrow

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 19:11:19

I wasn't online yesterday and it seems I missed Walter's birthday. A very Happy Belated Birthday WB!

Bytemee: What's wrong, had a bad day? Don't worry I got a big laugh from your post, I hope you cheered yourself up too. And just thought you might like to know, Clas is Swedish - from Sweden, Danes are from Denmark, yes, still a Scandanavian country, but nonetheless, a different country.

Avalon: you do mean Elliot Easton, who's this Shapiro dude?

El Supremo: Thanks for your words of kindness. You are proof that there are still some good men in this world. But don't worry, this stuff doesn't bother me in the least, and I'm sure Oleander would agree with me.

David in Florida: I was just kidding, believe me I know what brain funk is like after being on the road too long too, but glad to hear you have lots of gigs!

Big Fan: You want to fly out to Hawaii next year and put the 50 pink flamingos on WB's lawn? I'll go in half with you on the plastic birds, or do you want to get real ones? Nah...too much cleaning up!

OMIO: I've produced 4 hours of Dan music on a radio show, and we still couldn't get all the music we wanted into it. Of course, we had 12 minutes of commercials, and 15 minutes or so of news, weather, promos and talk in each hour.

ROCK: That was cruel, very cruel.

Rose Darling: I am also a fan of Bryan Ferry. Love Avalon and Manifesto too. Thanks for the info on Henley, I think I might have the soundtrack buried in one of the many boxes in my basement along with Michael Packard's Zazu album. Little by little I'm cleaning out the place and should find it soon.

RubyBaby: I don't know what you wrote, but I'm sure you got someone back! Liked the poetry too.

Name: RubyBaby
all :s and ;s can kyss my ass

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 18:47:41

B:;orgh - only with a torch

quite sincerely

Name: JosieDanFan
Mr. Whatever...

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 16:26:20

Hey guys and gals,

Byte Mee: No Bite ME!! You post didn't piss me off likje I'm sure you'd planned, it gave me a good laugh. Thanks!

El Supremo: Thank you for sticking up for us. You are a true gentle man, and my sister is damn lucky to have you!

Sorry no Dan related topics, I wasn't even planning on posting until I saw those two particular posts. I'll be leaving now.


Name: B:;orgh

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 16:00:41

Rubybaby-- Van doux lues wetet un sod mench? go likoe BLOWME!


Name: RubyBaby
dreams imitating art

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 14:11:23

Clas: Hej, min vanen. Jag hatar talamod. Men, jag behover talamod. (Tack till er talamod - min grammatik stygg.)

Warning: Poetry

I'm on a writer's digest and someone submitted this poem. It reminds me of "Walk Between the Raindrops." Even though the music is happy in that song, thus lending it a hopeful approach, I find it to be a sad song. Here's the poem:

Wound (by Malword)

"Desire distorts itself
by itself invents
an element
still burning
past time.
I, thought-sated
crept ahead
by finger-shadows
cast through
a limber rain
gathering in hand
elusive liquid threads
then gently
unseam the night.

RazorBoy: re:" why has thou forsaken me?" I wouldn't dream of forsaking you. But there are times when I am silent. And I am silent to all - dry and wet.

Clas: you understand always


Name: Sandy Allen says hello
@Giant Heartbeat Still Beating

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 12:21:04

For Dan Fans who are Split Enz fans:
Check out this page for info about an upcoming Enz concert:

Name: Rose Darling
Where will the Danfest be when Walt turns 50?

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 12:05:51

Original Lester: I'll be looking for a copy of that video. Never saw the Never Ceases to Amaze Me video. P.S. I agree, Avalon rules. So does Manifesto.

Geena and fezo:
The song by Henley is "Love Rules." Played during the scene where Ratt is leaving the girl of his dreams' house because he's too scared to make out with her. I watched the movie several times before I caught that song and now I have the soundtrack. Check it out, dreamy guitar and mushy sweet lyrics. Reminds me of the much later Eagles' song "Learn to Be Still."
fezo, "She's on the Zoom" ??? It's not on my cd.

clas: I'd like to talk with you in the chat room again, too, thanks.
IF I could go, it would be great to meet you at the Danfest. And learn more about shakers !

pearl: Your take on the fable is too true !

Name: Movie&MusicCritic

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 09:30:17

It's fitting that we lost Gene Siskel on WB's birthday. He was the Becker of the famed movie critic duo to Roger Ebert's Fagen.

Name: David in the Florida Room

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 07:00:24

Regarding the Roland Vs-840...A great little piece of gear.Except for the Fact that it Doesn't work with Rolands CD burner.If you want to Burn using their unit,you'll need the Vs-880 or better.

Name: Edd

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 04:54:22

That must be the D8.

I'm not overly fond of Korg, but they have been in the music business for a while so they have some staying power.

However, my latest Sweetwater Sound catalog had them advertised for $999 (MSRP $1250) with the SM57 that goes for about $100 on the street. If Mars is selling them for $750, I'd start to wonder about "end of life" and future support.

Name: Schwinn

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 00:16:15


I saw an ad from Mars on Thursday offering an 8-track KORG w/1.4 meg hard drive for $749.00 plus a coupon for a free Shure M57 microphone. Is the KORG line a good one?


I don't care what other people say about you. And neither does Jackson Browne. But Bruce Hornsby is really pissed. Please don't let the negative comments distract you from your Shaker lessons.

Life is Beautiful,


Name: nameless
@i'm late

Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 at 00:15:59

um...i think i'm pregnant.

Name: Farris

Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 23:42:33

I wonder how many people began listening to the Dan which led them to the likes of Bill Evans, John Coltrane, McCoy Tyner, Miles Davis, Stan Getz, etc. It is certainly how it all happened for me.

Name: Jack O'Speed
@wax peppers

Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 23:25:31

Hey Walter, tell Donald, with moves like that, he could be the talk of the town. HA!

Name: Jack O'Speed

Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 23:02:02

Mr Becker, you are MAGNIFICENT!

Name: TheKatyDanFan
".....Don't you think it was wrong to interrupt my song..."

Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 22:31:41

ROCK: Interesting, but I believe that's some old news. Also, Sweden isn't the only place where things like this have happened. These events have more to do with the time in history than they do with any location. Besides that, what does Clas have to do with it? The injustices done in a country reflect something about one person you know who lives there?

I realize there are no rules in the GB and that's probably for the best, yet I can't help but wish sometimes that all who post here were *required* to be grown-ups, allowing us to exclude mean kids with significant, unresolved issues scurrying around in grown-up bodies. Sure, we'd still have goofy posts, evidences of sick/zany senses of humor, boring trivia, (depending on who's reading what) etc., ....but with the important difference that at least no one, after reading the posts, would to be walking out concluding ....."Wow, that person must really hate my guts!" This, in a GB for those who love the Dan?

Just Katy, who doesn't appreciate the badgering of her DanSisters, also. They've done nothing to warrant the treatment they've gotten lately, and if I'm next, well, I consider myself to be in good company.

Name: R.O.C.K. in the

Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 20:29:16


After re-reading my last post, I realized that I did a stupid thing and would like to publicly apologize. This is not the forum to post such sadness, and is not indicative of the way the Swedish population regard those who are mentally ill. I am sorry for my stupidity, for calling you Pissboy and for causing you and other posters such misery. I am a demented soul with too much time on my hands for picking on you. It's my downfall and I guess I need to get a life. I am truly unhappy with myself and my attempt to upset you was truly uncalled for. I am a nobody, a simpleton; I lack maturity and intelligence and was only seeking attention much like a small child would. I am a lower life form than a slug.

I am the prenatal development of an asshole before the brain begins to function. I better go now before Dad finds out I've been playing with his computer again. If I get caught, there will be no cheezy-poof snacks for me for a whole week.

I hope the door hits me hard in the ass.

Name: Edd

Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 17:40:08

The Roland VS series is great. Clean sound, usefull FX, easy to use.

...word of advice. Save up a few more dollars and go for at least the 880 with a real hard drive. Zip drives inhale...

Name: JH Kane
Location: Holyoke, MA USA
Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 17:25:35

Hey Mr. B, Happy B-day:

Clas, I enjoyed the article on you and your family. Thanks R.O.C.K.

Name: fezo
breakingoutthehatsand . . .

Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 16:58:45

Mr. Becker:

Happy birthday!!! In honor of your 49th, I've just lost myself in your tasty solo on "Home At Last". I would heartily recommend that other GBers do the same.

Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 16:41:16

Happy Birthday Walter!

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Name: R.O.C.K. in the

Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 16:06:04


I found this interesting article on your homeland.




Report: More than 200 Swedish mental patients starved to death
6.21 p.m. ET (2322 GMT) February 20, 1999
By Jim Heintz, Associated Press

STOCKHOLM, Sweden (AP) — More than 200 severely retarded patients apparently starved to death in the 1940s at a state institution, where its director described them as "lower than many animal species,'' a newspaper reported Saturday.

The report is the latest in a wave of media investigations over the past three years that have challenged Sweden's cherished self-image as a caring and ethical welfare state.

Dagens Nyheter, one of Sweden's most respected daily newspapers, based its report of the deaths at the now-closed Vipeholm institution on an examination of records uncovered by private TV4, which is to broadcast its own report on Sunday.

The newspaper did not report direct evidence of deliberate starvation and noted that during the period in question, 1941-43, the institution, located near the university city of Lund, 300 miles south of the capital Stockholm, was forced to reduce rations because of shortages related to World War II.

However, the report did note that the death rate for the most severely retarded patients at Vipeholm suddenly tripled during the period and it quoted documents indicating a callous attitude toward patients.

The institution classified patients into seven categories, the newspaper said. Patients in the lowest category were "in a biological view, lower-standing than many animal species,'' wrote the head doctor, whose name was not given in the newspaper report.

The tripled death rate affected patients in the lowest categories. Many patients began losing weight fast soon after being admitted to the institution, such as a 49-year-old man who had "good musculature'' when he was admitted but died just eight months later, 35 pounds lighter.

Swedes in have the last few years been taken aback by reports of serious abuses in its social services system, most notably a 1997 investigation that found thousands of people were forcibly sterilized, many of them apparently because they were regarded as being mentally deficient or having undesireable racial characteristics.

Another report showed that mentally ill people may have been lobotomized without their consent or that of relatives and that some doctors saw lobotomies as a way of eliminating homosexual desires and communist sympathies.

The Vipeholm institution in the 1940s and 1950s forced some 400 of its patients to eat enormous amounts of candy in an investigation of the connection between sugar and tooth decay, reports revealed in 1997.

Name: OMIO

Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 11:35:25

Stefani: A radio show of all Steely Dan would be great music, but it doesn't take all that much time to play everything they've released.. There's tremendous Quality, but not a great deal of Quantity.. So the show would be sort of short-lived if you tried to do it on a weekly basis.. Since I listen to the same SD albums over & over again, that would be OK by me.. But making an ongoing radio show of it would be difficult from a "freshness" standpoint.. Grateful Dead shows get by on hundreds of hours of live tapes (which get stale fast..) They keep something "new" on the air each week.. Sad for us, SD tours are like total eclipses.. Rare & Awe-Inspiring.. The new album & tour should generate oodles of air-time, & probably some SD retrospective shows.. Happy B-Day Walter.. I included my e-mail here.. Write me & I'll be glad to interview you & Donald.. (hey, it just might work!)..

Name: Ben Dots Five
Izon fire

Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 10:19:50

Happy #49 Walter Becker!

Name: Big Fan

Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 09:48:07

Happy 49 WB. Next year 50 pink Flamingos on the front lawn.

Name: David in the Florida

Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 09:27:36

Geena, Sorry to Have omitted you too! "this is your brain...this is your Brain after lot's of gigs..." Seems I've only had time for Lurk Mode
Probably easier to keep posting and not have to feel bad about missing any hellos.
Sure have been some strange posts lately...people I don't recognize making Shitty,to all of those people who seek to define this space for themselves,but not allow anyone else the same freedom...Fuck you and the Armadillo you rode in here on.
The Rest of you...please continue to Inhabit this space as you always have.


Name: oleander
transcending, not over, the hill

Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 08:27:58

Happy Birthday, Mr. Becker.

Name: Greg Eastment
Location: Grafton, N.S.W Australia
Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 at 05:56:43

Thanks Steely Dan for bringing so much musical pleasure into my life,you are the greatest band in the world. My favourite song is Doctor Wu ''Katy Lied'',I cryed when i heard this song ,sue me if i listen too long.

Name: TheStranger
sue me if i played too long

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 22:17:27

i have been to lots of foreign places. some of them were so primitive they wouldn't let me carry around my smith & wesson. what the hell's wrong with the rest of the world? on a more serious note, i know what it's like to have to speak other languages badly in order to be understood because no one around speaks english. so i empathize with people from other countries trying their best to use my language.

Name: UhOne

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 22:16:40

listen grasshoppa, pearl sings gaucho.

Name: Stefani
Location: Chicago, IL U.S.A.
Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 21:24:48

Isn't this the greatest thing? With few exceptions, Steely Dan is the ONLY stuff I can bring myself to repeat listen. I am, with few exceptions, the hippest coolest major dude in town. The questions remain. When? uh... with Who? and again Who? My guesses are: soon enough, not Tom Scott or Larry Carlton, and BOTH (will sing). The bigger life's questions remain: why can't more musicians/bands be this hip or at least come close? And since most so-called music sucks so bad, why isn't there a radio programs devoted exclusively to playing only, with few exceptions, Steely Dan. The stuff really is perfection and grace. Why settle for anything less? They are the a continuum of great American art, an extension of Cole Porter, or maybe say Rogers & Hart. The Beatles or Elton are fair but you can throw 'em back in the great American cultural toilet with Bob Dylan, Elvis, or any other such over-hyped junk.

Name: El Supremo
"I've spent a lot of money, and a"
Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 18:25:25

Hello, DanFanDom!!

Indeed, I am back from the largest Banyan tree environment on Maui, Lahaina. My mistake was telling you the bar I was at was called: "The Red Baron". Instead, it was called the "Blue Max", and sorry for those of you intending to go to Maui. But, the Chinese "gift" of the Banyan Tree is there, go see for yourself, should you ever go there.

Listening to "Alive In America", which is a good live set from Walter and Donald.

"DanMoment" today, my daughter was going to a manager's meeting in Destin Beach, Florida, and she decided to take my car to make her chartered bus connection. I left the CBAT and CDTE in the cassette deck, filled the car up, asked her if she wanted any more tapes to take, and she said, "No, that is good, I'll listen to it."

So, "ByteMee" or whatever the 'stagename" is insulting and verbally abusing my fellow DanFan Ladies on the GB.

Well, first of all, I am a very passive SD fan, and started listening to their music in 1972, with "Can't Buy A Thrill", saw them live in 1974.

So, when "ByteMee" abused my fellow DanFriends, including Clas from Sweden, I strongly encourage you to look in the mirror for your own reflection.

You (anonymous poster) and others really irritate me. You do not leave your "real name" or, email address. So, I consider you, either parinoid, but in desperate need of counseling.

Now, I have been a DanFan since 1972----Male, etc.

However, "ByteMee", you either do not 'have-any-balls' or, are too ashamed to reveal you email. But, don't get to pissed about this, because (very frankly) I could give a F**c what you think about me, personally, since I am usually out of the USA.

However, if you want to spar, let-me-know.

As usual, have a pleasant evening, fellow DanFans!!!

Put on "Alive In America" drink a beer or glass of wine, smile, and cherish the fact a "new one' is soon coming.

"....the things that pass for knowledge, I just can't understand"


I Love You, Wife For Life, 'Just Katy'!!


Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 16:22:36

Elton John is playing near here tonight and they were playing a long interview with Elton and Bernie Taupin that was really good. They got to talking about Goodbye Yellow Brick Road and I remember how much I loved the double album back in the 70's when it was released. What a variety of music! I'm not gonna make the concert but I think I'll dig out the double cd and plug it into the car player on the way to pick up my fiance at work tonight. That double album probably ranks in my top ten all time favorites. I don't think he ever did anything else that even came close.

Wrong Guest Book.....BITE ME!!

Name: pearl
of the Quarter

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 16:00:38

Here is a fable:

Original Chinese Version:

The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper has no food or shelter so he dies out in the cold.

Modern American Version:

The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving. CBS, NBC and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to video of the ant in his comforatable home with a table laden with food.

America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can it be that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so?

Then, a rep from the NAGB (National Association of Green Bugs) shows up on Nightline and charges the ant with green bias, and makes the case that the grasshopper is the victim of 30 million years of greenism.

Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybody cries when he sings "It's Not Easy Being Green." Bill and Hillary Clinton make a special guest appearance on the CBS Evening News to tell a concerned Dan Blather that they will do everything they can for the grasshopper who has been denied the prosperity he deserves by those who benefited unfairly during the Reagan summers. Richard Gephardt exclaims in an interview with Peter Jennings that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his "fair share."

Finally, the EEOC drafts the "Economic Equity and Anti-Greenism Act," retroactive to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his reto-taxes, his home is confiscated by the government. Hillary gets her old law firm to represent the grasshopper in a defamation suit against the ant, and the case is tried before a panel of federal hearing offecers that Bill appointed from a list of single-parent Wefare moms, who can only hear the case on Thursdays between 1:30 and 3:30 PM. The ant loses the case.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits fo the ant's food while the government house he's in, which just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around him since he doesn't know how to maintain it. The ant has disappeared in the snow. And on the TV, which the grasshopper bought by selling most of the ant's food, they are showing Bill Clinton, standing before a wildly applauding group of Democrats, annnouncing that a New Era of Fairness has dawned in America.

Name: David Noroski
Do it Again/Denver

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 13:19:39

What type of wine would you like to drink, Mr. Becker? Oh, and if Donald wants a turn, too, that's fine. Pleez stop by!!!

Name: David's wife

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 13:13:46

Mr. Becker: Sounds like fun. If he would like, Mr. Fagen may come along and watch. In addition, it would be extra special if you could bring Mr. Bumpus as well. You know what they say about horn players.

Name: Donald Fagen
Location: NY, NY USA
Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 12:57:27

You know we have a new album coming out and we need every fan we can get to buy it. Please don’t offend any new posters here right away, at least not until we can determine if they are wealthy professors or penniless college students. Who knows, maybe he doesn’t even have a wife, and you know our rules about other people’s girlfriends.


Name: Walter Becker
Yes, David

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 12:30:03

Yes, I wil also be stopping by your house for dinner, David. Maybe you and I can have a nice conversation over a glass of wine, and then I can make wild passionate love to your wife while you watch.

Name: David Noroski
Location: Windsor , Colorado USA
Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 12:04:17

Looking forward to your next C.D. Will your next tour include
a stop in Denver?

Name: Avalon Sisters Shake It More Up Than This
Not@All Mixed Up

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 09:40:59

Boys and Girls: Yes, Avalon, of course. But recall too how Roxy and Ferry rip off Ric-O on Same Old Scene and Over You -- case of influence reversal... What I meant to say is: Shapiro rules again on Shake It Up, believe it or not.

Name: nick siegel

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 08:38:36

What's up? I have loved the music of donald and walter for a long time. I hope to some day meet my personal hero Donald Fagen but I think that this would be hard to accomplish. I think that the music of steely dan is really cool. thank you.

Name: jOKER

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 06:44:17

Thank you, Bytemee.
Folks, Tourette's Syndrome is no laughing matter [esp. with the FDA ban on tryptophan] - but with just one plane ticket to a Canadian pharmacy, sufferers like Bytemee can experience some comfort from this complex and poorly understood condition......

OLE: what's worth checkin out, the band or the me a cookie!


Name: bytemee

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 05:50:44

And can't we just somehow block this Danish fucker, or whatever he is, Claus? That faggot gets on my friggin tits.

Name: Bytemee

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 05:49:00

I can't stand to have to envision one more dramatic "episode" from JDF. Doesn't it seem like she's always dancing and crying and emoting about something or other? And damn, that Geena's a trollop. And who's this oleander person? What a bitch.

Name: JosieDanFan
..nothing but blues and Elvis..

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 05:25:15

Hey Dan Fans,
Last night I was feelin' kinda blue. So I put on some *Gold*, cranked up the stereo, sang at the top of my lungs and let the tears and the music wash right over me, and I feel a million times better. By the time the album finished I was laughing, and dancing instead of crying. Thanks D&W.

Katy: Things are not perfect, but going so well with us, I can't believe I found this man, he's a dream come true.

David: Here's to the best man in the universe! Well actually, it's a tie, but you get my point. Love ya man!!

Herm: Back in Hiding?

See ya


P.S. To every one: a big hello..

Name: Clas
twice aday

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 03:30:38

Apropos "Fall Of '92" - what is best - Romance Without Finance or Finance Without Romance?

Name: Clas
...that's Otis Redding...

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 02:29:03

The Stranger - yeah, you're right. Damm, you're a nice fellow. But you've been around the world a little?

Rodney - ja, och det här är danska, om du fattar vad jag snackar om. Om du hade brytt dig om att vara nykter och skötsam när du skriver dina "poster", så hade jag kanske svarat dig på engelska.

Confucious - no I don't. I picked up the word "pussy" from Beckers song "Fall Of '92".

Is that a problem for you?

Maxine - Swedish, male, 44, Steely-fan since -75. Married, one son, probably your age. Have a dog, his name is Pompe, 3 years old, a Great Dane.

Goodnight St Louis! See you next yeeaar!

Name: Lonnie Van Zandt
King of Ed

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 00:49:29

...well i hope peter north will remember; a southern man don't need him around anyhow...

Name: The Wicked Peter of the North
I'm gonna get a gun...

Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 at 00:32:56

I'll bet Alabama will try to outlaw ME next: my films, my memorabilia, etc. They'll probably outlaw transporting me across state lines. Next thing you know, they'll try to reinstate segregation. Well, Alabama, all I can tell you is I'M COMING....OH YEAH! Like Sherman in Georgia, Peter North is gonna lead a march to Mobile to spray some love all about...and you can bring your toys! Cum with me, my scurvy brethren.

"Southern change gonna come at last..."

Name: Confucious

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 23:27:09

Hurry up with those cookies Poison Flower Woman.

Duck! Bejing!

Really, Here's a Hot Pad. Got any small slips of gummed rice papers?

Hi Clas. What's with the female sex organ slang? Are you practicing your New Orleans' English?

Name: TheStranger

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 23:08:43

you're a john cusack fan? allow me to name-drop. saw him in vegas last weekend at a big fight. he used the same urinal right after me. should i have gone back and got you a urine sample?

Name: TheStranger
the places we used to go

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 23:05:40

you are absolutely right. it's not fair to equate hulk and his sidekick with racist shits in texas just because they are neurotic cyber-pests. but who said life was fair?

Name: oleander
baking cookies

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 22:51:31

Danspotting: IGY at the grocery store tonight.

Mu--Hey, spot me a ticket for that concert? Meet you there!

Jokah--no, but Saturday night, BioRitmo returns, & I'll be there--BTW, they have a full-page ad in the most recent Rolling Stone. Way worth checking out for Latin music fans.

Maxine--good effort, but I suspect spotty, since there are several known Californians who apparently didn't weigh in. Makes us sound like a stuffy old bunch. OK, OK. I hate polls. F, 47, NC, M, 25 y.

OL--wow! Great story.

NL--I'm very fond of Say Anything. Another great Cusack film is Grosse Pointe Blank.

GKR--waiting by the mailbox!

Confuscious--? = confused + luscious

Joe, Jon--On a piano jag lately--Monk, Horace Silver, Bud Powell, Rubalcaba; Mose in the queue.... Wish I were listening with you guys.

Name: Razor Boy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 21:05:40

Thanks Bob Tedde - Tell me about the sax player - his backgrdound, the projects he's been associated with, and is he a musician DF/WB would call back for the newest effort - or if he plays what he likes, would they not bother having a renegade involved - But really, if he's got a sound they like, and is proficient, people who strive for perfection can put up with some quirks with their session players. It's not as if Walter and Donald descriminate - If they want someone, they'll bring him in and use him on even one track. June 8th can't come soon enough.

Name: Geena

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 19:51:23

Ole: Am I going to NO? I'm afraid that wouldn't be prudent. Financially, we're strapped until the fall. But if I manage to hit the lottery jackpot before then, I'm buying ALL the rounds!

Neil Peart: Of course you can listen to Steely Dan. Do you know I have all your albums? And can I meet Geddy Lee? PLEASE!

GK John: You're right about the classic rock stations never recognizing the Dan. In my neck of the woods, the jazz stations play lots of Dan.

Rose Darling: For as many times as I've seen Ridgemont High, I can't for the life of me remember the Don Henley song you mentioned. How could I have missed it, I love the man! ok, I'm trying to remember if I was preoccupied with Sean Penn's outfits or if I was still doing hallucenogenics at the time. Dude, help me out here!

David: forgot me too!

Maxine: Age: I'll never tell, Gender: F, State: MA, Marital Status: M (and still in love), Length of time I've been a fan: since 1976.

Chasing the dragon......

Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 16:56:24

jOKER....have you seen the line-up for Ziggy's lately? They've got some great acts coming through in the coming weeks. Is Winston-Salem too far for you to drive? I may try to get tickets for Eagle Eye Cherry or Eve 6. That would be a great place to check out the bands I think. Are you usually going to the Cat's Cradle or what to catch the shows you've been mentioning?

Name: GK John
ANSKY in 99!

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 13:20:17

Maxine- Much to my chagrin, I was late in replying to your census... Not that it would make much of a difference in the numbers, I fear. (I WAS going to follow Fezo) but I think your research might be a little flawed. For example, how many responses did you get? By my count, there are about 30 regulars in here and countless lurkers. Can you quantify results on people that didn't respond in time (or were too afraid)? There are other criteria I'm sure could be added to your questions, such as education, but overall, your attempt here is laudable. It would be interesting to catch a larger segment of the fan base and poll them but it would be a much more daunting task. For the record:
40-M-NY-M,15 years-a fan since CBAT or '74- whichever came first.

BTW, a fourum... is that a two-um plus two-um?

If I were Brian Cashman, I think I'd hire a few bodyguards right away! I fear Mr. Wells is mightily PISSED!!!

Name: Rodney

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 13:06:06


As big as idiots Hulk or Wrong guestbook might be, I don't think it's fair to compare them to three shkin heads who killed a black man in Texas. Also, It doesn't really matter how many languages Clas can speak, it only goes to show that Clas can be a fool in any language he chooses to use.

Name: TheStranger
can't we all get along?

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 12:39:35

mucho americanos (thought i'd throw in some swedish words to show off) have never been anywhere or done anything of value and yet are certain they have all the answers. an example is the three motherfuckers who decided to torture and murder a black man in texas for being black because they just know that's the right thing to do. then we have related idiots like hulk, who probably can barely speak english himself but insults a multi-lingual european for failing to have a perfect command of english. hulk and wrong guestbook and others of their ilk have learned to sign onto a computer where they can finally lash out at all the self-inflicted demons torturing them without any fear of retaliation. much like the three texas shitheads.

ok, the album's june 8. when's the tour?

Name: Wrong Guestbook
ya man

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 10:54:23

Maxine- This fourum doesn't represent the true Steely Dan fan. Now, if you want to take a survey on SD fans that are on the computer all day and don't have a life, you've come to the right place!

Name: Maxine

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 08:49:27

I guess I've been proven wrong (I hate it when that happens!) Here are the numbers:

Of those responding
66.6% Male, 33.4% Female
50% Southern US, 25% North Eastern US, 25% North Western US
87% Married, 13% Single
All were 29 or older.
All were "long term" fans.
Thanks to everyone who participated!

Peter South: Regarding the new law here in AL, you heard right. Not only have they outlawed the sale of such things, but also the transportation of them across state lines! I feel so much safer now! It is nice to know that I live in such a perfect state that there is nothing IMPORTANT left for them to work on and they have time for this.

Name: Peter South
Deacon Blues

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 07:43:02

It has come to my attention that the State of Alabama has passed legislation outlawing the sale of Steely Dans (aka sex toys). I encourage my fellow scurvy brothers to rise and stand erect! There are distraught, drooling women with a drawl in need! At this moment I'm sure many of the needy are desparately trying to reach my brother, the good bitchmaster of the North, on his 900 hotline.

Name: Boz

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 07:25:22

The new one on June 8. It's the best birthday present ever.

Name: fezo

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 06:57:14

Rose: There's a slow Henley song on the "Fast Times" soundtrack? All I remember by him is "She's on the Zoom" which definitely ain't slow

Maxine: 37 M Va M 19 years

All: I got NYRSR in the mail yesterday from Columbia House. Only $ 1.99 (plus $ 5,473 for shipping). I had forgotten what a great disc it was. Everyone is in fine voice and Fagen actually sounds happy to be on stage. Unlike the SD shows I saw in the 90's where he acted like he rather be getting a root canal.

Name: Clas
a man in full

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 05:58:50

So you call yourself "Hulk" now (R.O.C.K, Phil Philestrio, Johnboy, Case, Edd etc etc). Coward.

Yes, "many with me", that's the right expression. Maybe it's not the american dialect of the english language, but it sure is the Real Oxford English.

Got it pussy?

Name: Hulk

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 05:09:59

Clas-- And many with me? Take the shit out of your mouth. "Your english is not more better now".

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 01:46:31

I.P. Freely - what are you talking about? I'd love to chat with Rose Darling. And many with me. So go burn, coward.

Name: Clas
Location: Stockholm, Sweden USA
Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 01:42:24

Fezo - I got it.

Maxine - I don't understand.

KatyDanFan - sure did sweetheart.

· · ·

Name: TheKatyDanFan

Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 00:21:17

Maxine: Pardon those of us who post in here and neglect to send email. Don't be discouraged----all the answers you're looking for are contained right here, even Clas' place of residence. (Hint: see my last post.). Regarding surveys, we've kinda "been there, done that" if you want to scroll back. (Be forewarned, it's not a pretty sight.) Is there a better substitute for paying attention and slowly discovering who's who in the GB? I, for one, prefer the mystery!

David in the Florida Room: K, David, since you posted that so quickly, I have to forgive you :)

BigFan: Thanks for the info regarding the concert! Yes, you were a little young, you would have needed a last name like Hanson! I'm sure you're correct about SD being the back up, but still, when you said that, it gave me that real sick feeling inside. Doesn't compute, does it? By this time, Elton would know better?

Clas: I figured you heard the call and you wrote it on the wall!

Tedde, Not Edde: Walk Away, yep, thanks, that's the one. Trying to remember what other songs were on there.....

Just Katy :)

Name: Original Lester

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 at 22:56:00

Rose- Somewhere my sister has a video collection called History Never Repeats, featuring all Split Enz videos, including Dirty Creature, Pioneer/Six Months in a Leaky Boat, and Never Ceases to Amaze Me. Those are the only Time and Tide videos I remember. Incidentally, Temple of Low Men is one of my all-time favorite albums. I should clarify that Second Thoughts sounds nothing like any Enz you may be familiar with, so give it a few listens before passing judgment. If you are a Roxy Music fan, Avalon, Siren, and Ferry's Boys and Girls are essential. I would think that most folks hitting this website could probably appreciate Avalon. Phenomenal.

No, I haven't forgotten the Dan. I am distraught that it is not yet June 8. It sickens me that I am not seeing them perform right now. For the record, Tom Scott plays the wonderful sax solo in the fadeout of the FM version which is featured on Gold and Citizen.

If anybody's listening, the Giant Heartbeat is fading....

Name: Maxine

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 at 20:39:02

The SD poll is coming along a little slower than I had hoped.
Come on folks, I know you're out there! (Especially you ladies, we're falling behind here!!)
Stand up and be counted. E-mail your info to:
Don't forget to make SD Poll the subject line, and include:
Age, Gender, State (or country--Clas where are you?) of residence, Marital Status, and Length of time you've been a fan.

For those who have responded: THANKS!! I've really enjoyed the comments you have included.

Results to come, soon.

Name: David in the Florida Room

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 at 20:03:16

Damn! I knew I forgot someone...Sorry KatyDan Fan...regards to El Supremo too.


Name: I.P. Freely

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 at 20:00:41

Nobody wanted to chat with you anyway, Rose.


Name: Rose Darling

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 at 18:03:25

Anyone else having a problem getting into chat right now?
Can't access the site, getting some weird error message...

Name: Rose Darling
Early Happy Birthday Walter Becker on Feb. 20th!?!?

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 at 17:52:50

Original Lester:
How could I have forgotten Squeeze? Thanks for the reminder, East Side Story is a great album I have and I love Glenn Tilbrook's vocals. Split Enz or Crowded House-whatever, as long as Neil Finn is there, I'm there. I believe he's on a solo tour currently. Played at the Orlando House of Blues but I couldn't get there. I haven't heard Second Thoughts but thanks for the recommendation, you've got my interest piqued. I LOVE Time and Tide. Did you ever catch the Split Enz videos from it?

Dr. Greenstreet:
I indeed heard Dr. Wu on Chicago Hope. Don't remember the other episode but wish I did ! There is always groovy music playing in the surgery room on Hope, have you noticed?

Dr. Mu:
Once again I am shamed !!! How did I leave the Police off my fantasy list?!? What the heck are Andy and Stewart up to these days, do ya know? AND let me know if you ever see a Split Enz reunion !

fezo: Now we know the HOF is screwed if there is no Steely Dan or Police in it.

Geena aka fellow Henley fan:
Did you ever hear the sweet song Don H. did on the Fast Times at Ridgemont High soundtrack? I just did for the first time, real adolescent, heartbreaky cry in your milkshake stuff, and beautiful guitar playing.

Name: Big Fan

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 at 08:41:36

Is it June 8th yet? A day that will live in ...

KDF: I believe the concert was at the Dallas Cotton Bowl, Dallas TX which would have made the date August, 18, 1973. Let's see, I was 14, a liitle young to start traveling across country to concerts - although I was already a SD fan. I only drooled over the poster for awhile and the last bid I saw was about $20. SD was obviously the back up band, with Elton coming out afterwards. can you imagine that concert today? I guess Elton would still headline.

Name: Geena
Where you going wit that gun in your hand?

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 at 08:17:53

Jake: I would have done the same as you. Wasn't it a little late for the members of Hanson to be up at that time of night, let alone be in a nightclub where alcohol is served? And what kind of drugs is Bob Weir doing these days?

Name: Jake

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 at 08:00:42

Joker, Funny you asked. Just last Saturday night I went to a very small club here in NYC to see Bob Weir of the Grateful Dead. In the middle of the set Weir say's, "I got some friends of mine that are going to come up on stage and jam with us". Now, I'm thinking great, maybe it's Greg Allman or Hot Tuna or maybe, just maybe, it's Donald or Walter. Well to mine and everyones surprise (gasp).drum roll.... I'ts all three members of HANSON! God, think about it, Hanson playing with members of the Grateful Dead. Don't ask me how it was, I was in the bathroom throwing up.

Name: jOKer
when i say pluto, you say planet

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 at 07:21:41

the warden being kind enough to let me out to see the second concert in a week, i'm wondering if anyone's seen any good shows lately, as the prospect of a new summer SD tour [and the imminent N.O. Jazzfest} looms over us: what have you been seeing to satisfy that live music jones lately? I've hit a streak of acts that have swung my way: clutch last week, 2 skinnee jays last night {PLUTO.......PLUTO.......} and the always entertaining Combustible Edison is playing tonight -

there's gotta be some good gigs up in nyc that are worth mentioning........

Name: fezo

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 at 06:57:46

Clas: "The Juice" was a nickname for O.J. Simpson. If the racial identities were reversed as you premised, no one else would qualify for that designation.

I'm not sure what the rest of the answer is to your premise . . . white female jury, white husband killer, black female victim . . . my comments the other day were based solely on reactions amidst me I've observed growing up in the South to racially mixed couples of the OJ/Nicole variety. Such black male, white female relationships are much more common in the South than the reverse.

Dr. Mu: It's great to see there's someone else out there longing for a Police reunion. I thought one of the highlights (along with Peter Gabriel) of The Amnesty Tour in 1986 was their appearance in those series of shows. Hope they make it to the Hall of Fame one day.

Name: bob tedde

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 at 02:40:52

KDF: James Gang song in question: Walk Away off the James Gang's 3rd album, "Thirds".

Razor Boy: FM is Pete Christlieb on sax (he played just what he felt), and WB on guitars.


Name: Clas
the man who shot the man who shot the man who shot Billy The Kid

Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 at 01:01:37

Dr Mu - a great book on that issue is (I know, I've said it before) is Barney Hoskyns "Waiting For The Sun".

And three dots please · · ·

GK John - thank you, Roger Miller, yes!

Debbi - no, that's wrong, try to sing those words along with the music. It's a no can do.

Katy - yes, we have shows over here. And we probably had them when America was just swamps, alligators and buffalos. When there wasn't even any Doc Holliday or Sundance Kid.

Remember that you're speaking with a man who lives in the cradle of the culture.

Fezo - I still don't understand - if it was the opposite - white "murderer", black wife, and white woman in the jury? Who is the whore and who is the juice?

ST LOUIS -93 - I sure hear Donalds keytar, awful sound.

Name: DrMu

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 22:19:34

Why stop at 7? Can't forget with 'Fest coming up the perenially great live bands Neville Bros., Los Lobos, and Little Feat (if it's a fantasy I want Lowell George). Patti LaBelle could give some spectacular live performances (even better, much better than
her studio recordings from what I've heard).

Edd: You're right. The 60s saw a transition where those that wrote the songs began to perform them. many of the opoular artists where vocalists backed by crack session or touring artists. The Motown recording behemoth is a good example. Many "groups" were vocal groups. There were a number of black r&b bands especially in the NYC area in the early and mid 50s but they had trouble breaking into mainstream. The Isleys were one of the few crossovers. So it was up to white artists like Elvis and small band units like Bill Haley and the Comets and later Buddy Holly and the Crickets (short tenure) to carry the torch. After the "day the music died," Feb. 2, 1959, most popular artists seemed to be those dreaded one-name teenage hearthrob types for a while. I was only teletubby age back then, but the Beach Boys were probably the only big early 60s band pre-Beatalia.

Name: Debbi
doin' Dallas

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 21:48:22

How about: "I'm not drunk on no holy wine, save muscatel" They did like to use double negatives in the lyrics.

Name: Razor Boy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 21:01:00

Malibu - Thanks - Grover Washington - I kept wanting to say Ray Parker Jr. but he did "Ghostbusters." Lester - I would love to be in New Orleans, but it's not in the cards. I'd still like to read about a few blow by blow descriptions of happenstances. By the way, it's tough to not love "FM" for the guitar and sax work. When I first saw the cheesy film it was written for, the best part was reading the closing credits and listening to the great solo being played by ? I don't have a clue who played either, because I don't have the liner notes. Same old story. Tell me, is there a definitive publication that outlines all their session men, kind of like a record book like baseball and hockey have? Ruby, Ruby, why has thou foresaken me?

Name: TheKatyDanFan
".., I'll make it this time, I'm ready to cross that fine line..."

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 20:57:48

......had to scroll waaayyy back.....

Dr. Greenstreet: James Gang--- haven't thought of them in a long time. Now I have one of their songs running through my head....can't think of the title, but the line is, "...seems to me....I don't wanna talk about it....." (?)....I can hear the guitar playing. In answer to your question re: movies, no, however, I've been listening to and enjoying Gaucho so much lately------to me that song is movie material, definitely; someone in here should start writing the screenplay and a few of us could then produce the movie! I keep hearing that song throughout the movie and then playing as the movie ends and the credits scroll by....

BigFan: When and where was a SteelyDan/Elton John concert, if I may ask? Does Elton dig the Dan? I wish I had been paying better attention back then.

RoseDarling: Neat quote, so true. No problem with Denny-----I'm sure he will want to meet you! Especially after he sees you up there on the stage!

David in FR: Nice to see you-----it seems you've* forgotten* me already?

Original Lester: Thoroughly enjoyed your bit of history. And you do seem to have found the girl for you, despite face hickeys, lol. Keep playing, and you won't need to pull that plug on your amp after all!

RoyScam: Comical advice, I loved that! Too bad ES was not here Valentine's Day; we could have said, "Some guy in the GB made us do it!"

David F: Can relate to your post, as others in here. One of my favorite words for my reaction to the Dan is the one you mentioned----mesmerized!

Herm: Your comment to fezo gave me the biggest laugh of all as I was scrolling back.

Clas: Gee, I'm learning a lot about Great Danes! Our neighbors down the street have two great looking Danes, they take them all over to dog shows! But I don't think they took them to Sweden-----do you have shows over there, too?

Zeke: Definitely want to hear your report when you get back!

Stranger: It's so nice to have *awed* someone, even for a second in the GB :) You're right, I am blessed (and sometimes cursed) with a genuine love for people. I have no idea how I got this way.

Schwinn and O Michael and others ready to rehearse: We need to find a sorta central location....! Home will be pushing for the Spectrum, no doubt.

RazorBoy: Beautifully haunting is a great description of that guitar in TWM; it's made me cry more than once.

Geena: You had me laughing re: purple teletubbie, lol. I also don't understand DDD, etc., and I don't know what your MCSE reference means, either! (Is it Italian?)

Josie: Hey, Sis, how goes it? Especially life with your DanFanMan?

BobTedde: (lovebob, right?) In the event you saw my post regarding an SD concert, I realize you would be part of the group, along with BigFan, Dr. Mu, and Edde, to introduce SteelyDan for each set. I kept thinking Edde was you, were Edde, but now I think I have you two straight, and each of you needs to be there! (Is that Edde or Edd? lol)

O Michael: Agree, would love to see BS&T in concert. And perhaps they would play my "40,000 Headmen," wouldn't that be great?

ES: Missing you more than you know! So glad you'll be Home At Last----soon. I'm so glad to have you as my one and only Valentine, **ILYM**

Just Katy :)

Name: DrMu
Yes, I'll Be There

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 20:26:04

Fantasy 7:
• Peter Gabriel (Robert Fripp guest guitarist)
• Crowded House/Split Enz (Finn Bros., Paul Hester, Nick Seymour, Eddie Rayner, I'll have to check out Phil Judd/2nd thoughts)
• Police reunion (dream on)
• Miles Davis Quintet or w/ Gil Evans (key word is Fantasy)
• Earth Wind and Fire (70s version with Phillip Bailey's statospheric tenor)
• Benny Goodman's Carnegie Hall concert which introduced jazz and black musicians to white bread America
• Mr. Steely Dan

Name: Peter North
Counting Down to Ecstasy...

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 18:22:57

I want to wish a happy Vietnamese New Year to one and all. That reminds me, make sure you rent my classic "The Tit Offensive." Also, we are now working on a documentary about the prowess of my balls, called "Two Against Nature." We hope to use material from the new album for theme music.

Anxiously awaiting the events of '99,

Name: OMIO

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 15:10:10

There was a time when Popular Music was called Swing.. There were many Great Bands that ushured in the era of radio, ballroom touring, and real music Stardom, with screamiing fans outside the hotels. Goodman is one good example.. They played plenty of instrumentals as the mainstay of their show, & had many instrumental hits..
Brubeck said that WWII killed off the big bands because so many guys got drafted.. The advent of the small combo with the Star Lead Singer was at hand.. Pop music changed. Now Hits had Words..
Sometime around '59-'60 there appeared early Twangcore.. Duane Eddy, The Ventures.. Which revitalized Instrumentals as popular music.. This quickly morphed into original surf music (real surf music doesn't have words..) Pipeline, Telstar, etc.. Brubeck's Take Five made the charts.. From then it wasn't too far a jump into San Francisco in '65 & the All Night Instrumental Ragas..
This brought the instrumentalist back into the forefront of popularity.. Musicians got noticed for their ability to play..
And bands became identified by what great musicians they had, not who the lead singer was..
Steely Dan is pretty popular, considering how far beyond the bell shaped curve they are.. But that's the reason they're not ranked among the Most Popular.. They're just too damn good for that..
Radio is full of Idiots.. So, expect Idiotic music from Radio..

Name: Edd

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 11:32:24

Maybe the concept of "rock band" wasn't clear until the 60s?

Could it be because many (most?) pop performers in the pre-60's weren't bands, but rather solo artists with a bunch of backup musicians?

Name: fezo

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 11:07:35

for whatever reason, the great band designation seems most usually given to groups that got started in the 60's. It's obviously an artifical time construct to place upon admission into this nebulous category, but still one that is applied nonetheless at most of the classic rock stations I've had to listen to by default through much of my life.

but if you look at the 70's bands so far inducted into the Hall of Fame: Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Wings (gag); maybe it's not such a bad time restriction. With the exception of maybe the Eagles, I wouldn't consider any of those three to be close in quality output to any 60's bands like the Beatles or the Stones or the Dead.

Of course there is one obvious way for the Hall to remedy their bad habit of admitting only mediorce bands from the 70's.

Name: GK John
Chasing down @ Hoo Doo there

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 10:38:41

Hey Dan-o-maniacs! Just taking a few minutes from chasing the Witch to catch my breath! Damn! But she can run! and in various states of undress!
I had a Steely Dan moment over the weekend I just felt I had to share... While running around doing errands, I had the radio tuned to one of those "Classic Rock" format stations that never seem to recognize the Dan in that category when what to my wondering ears should I hear but "My Old School" filling the car with those funky horn sounds! Just as it ended, I pulled into a parking spot in front of the auto parts store. I'm feeling pretty good after that little treat on the radio. Humming, I go inside and head for the oil filters only to stop in my tracks... "Rikki" is playing on the store sound system on one of the "oldies" stations! Now THAT never happens!

Clas- You're listening to Roger Miller (Dang me. Dang me. Oughta take a rope and hang me)? Talk about your eclectic tastes!
Hey- Jerry Reed and Jim Stafford should be in your collection too! ...And I thought I was the only one...

Rosey- Love that Paul Simon character too!

Name: Big Fan

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 09:18:03

The SD show at is now up and running. It is by three French guys - they would be right at home here - their English, while much better than my French (and probably my English), is still not more better man. So the dialouge is pretty funny. Titles become "Only a fool could be that" There is a video of black and white photos of Don and Walt as children. You need a very fast hookup and RealPlayer Plus to watch it. Hope you have a lot of RAM and a good ISP.

Cling: Try - there have been many t-shirts and posters for sale by auction there over the last few weeks, although I don't think there are any right now. There was a poster I coveted, but did not bid on from a Steely Dan/Elton John concert in the 70's about two weeks ago.

Name: Frog

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 09:03:22

Buddha- Go to type in Steely Dan) I think their selling a '94 SD t-shirt right now.
Good question about why the Dan are never talked about in the same light as The Dead, The Who, etc. You should ask the same question to the voters for the Rock'n'Roll Hall Of Fame!

Name: Clining_Buddha
Location: Chicago, IL US
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 08:50:13

I never see any Dan related items like posters and T-shirts. Is there anyone from Chi-town that can direct me to some stuff? If not, does anyone know where I can order some from? Also, I don't know if this question has been touched on in the past so excuse my naivetee but why is it that when the media or the "masses" talk about great bands, The Dan is never mentioned? There's alwaly the Beatles, The Dead, The Who...etc. Great bands but why is Steely Dan left out in the cold all the time?

Name: Father Time
Turn back the...

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 08:43:15

Walter is not a "Dirty Old Man" yet. That happens this Saturday, Feb.20th.

Name: OMIO

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 08:09:29

"Bright Lights, Big City" was on Turner over the weekend.. They'll probably run it over & over again in the next month or so..
Will: Why would Walter be a bitter old man? He's not clinging to a patch-work studio in an industrial park with three months back rent. Nobody's sued him out of rights to his music, & he isn't living in a refurbished milk truck. There are some great musicians who are in those kind of straits. He could make an easy 2,000 dollars an appearance just lecturing to college jazz bands for an hour. The Music Biz is totally Murderous, but can offer tremendous success, which Donald & Walter have certainly had, much more than many others.. But, he can be & do whatever he wants..

Name: Confuscious

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 01:03:07

Welcome to Year of Rabbit. Some Chans call it Year of Cat but that so stupid! Rabbit and Cat are very different. Now you know why North and South Korea hate each other so much like in MASH.

Everyone get out Year of Cat album by Al Stewart and listen day all long to it. Drink sake. Act like Peter Lorre. You know some day you bound to leave her but for now you stay in Year of Cat. Remember that? I am dancing with a rabbit.

Hhaahaah. I laugh! Next year Dragon comes.

Next Message on Small Paper Inside Cookie,


Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 00:48:08

Hm, StAl, as your best friend I entlich can point out one of the wrong lines on your Lyrics Page:

You wrote:

"...and I drunken no holy wine save Muscatel."

Should be:

"... I'm drunk and no holy wine save the Muscatel."

Name: Clas
"... what are you up to these days?

Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 at 00:40:01

... slinging pussy as always?" and "... those nazis in Washington DC."

Becker, you are the man. But why didn't "Fall of 92" end up on 11 Tracks?

StAl - thanks for the music. You are now my best friend ever. I'll send you a picture of me so you you can see that I'm your best friend.

Damm, this is much better than AiA. Erskine is so good and Zzing too (it's only one thing I'm negative about; the cheap sound of the digital "piano").

Name: Original Lester

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 23:24:10

Les- it's been ten years since I've seen Say Anything, so I'm afraid that I don't remember that line. All I remember is that Lloyd wanted to be a kickboxer. You ever see Better Off Dead w/Cusack? Funnier than hell. Gotta watch that one every few years.

Rose- How about Split Enz with Phil Judd? Ever heard Second Thoughts? It was their 2nd album, released in 1976. Neil was not in the band yet, because he was finishing high school. Phil Manzanera, the guitarist from Roxy Music, produced that album, and it was incredible. Judd was the main songwriter, but he then left the band for some strange reason; I think not getting along with Tim Finn was part of it. Anyway, check Second Thoughts out- you may have to order it from overseas. It sounds nothing like any other Enz album, but I think it's better than any of them (all due respect to Time and Tide).

respect the 7 sec. delay

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 21:25:44

I dusted off the "nightfly" today for a change!

Original Lester the nightfly of baton rouge- Hey dude, i liked your story of SD discovery! I liked your question about sd in movies, Say anything is about my favorite movie, it came out the year i graduated and at the same time i was just discovering our boys, and when John Mahoney started singing Rikki, I almost lost it! He was funkin awesome in that movie also! His greatest line from the movie: "I'M INCARCERATED LLOYD" I also fell in love with Ione Skye(she was also in A night in the life of Jimmy Reardon), John Cusack is definetly my favorite actor! I just found out the guy who wrote the movie Cameron Crowe is married to Hearts Nancy Wilson! I'll have to be on the lookout for more sd songs in movies, i wish i had something to add, I already knew about the movies u listed! Do u still have that comedy tape?


Name: Big Fan

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 18:57:52

Sorry, I apologize. After more searching on that sight, I realized that what they had for a SD link for today's archive is for a show about three weeks ago - i.e. they haven't put a link to today's show. It will be interesting to see what was said when it is made available!

Name: Big Fan

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 18:39:36

Q: I could not listen live, but the archive is there now - although it says Steely Dan, the host says there was technical difficulty and they started late - and he talks about a few artists, Kenny Loggins, Khris Kross (sp?) et al - no mention of Don, Walt or Steely Dan in the intro.

Name: Q

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 17:34:20

Did anyone listen to the radio broadcast featured on the Dandom Digest ?

Name: Dr. Greenstreet
and another one

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 16:43:22

Also, the Drew Carey sang a little bit of Dirty Work with his "band" on his show. Joe Walsh and the James Gang was the band I believe as they are from the Cleveland area.

Name: Dr. Greenstreet
from the past

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 15:00:37

Haven't posted for quite awhile, but have been observing. I don't have any interesting or controversial political statements to make here. However I thought I might address Original Lesters question about SD music in movies.

While not a movie, About two years ago, the TV show Chicago Hope had two episodes with SD related items. One had Dr.Wu playing in the operating room. The other had a patient with a brain tumor about to be operated on reciting the beginning lyrics of Fire in the Hole. Did anybody else catch those?

Name: Good King Rich
still crazy after all these years

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 14:45:50

Ole: prints arrived yesterday - two 'specially for you will be winging their way asap(may e them to you in advance too, or you can look at and extract two rolls from the site if you still have my password). Yes, it will fit for a couple of months yet... And, then it's mine, all mine, ha ha ha ha!

Rose D. That'd be Paul Simon and The Boxer, but I guess it was kind of rhetorical for anyone over thirty here. Love your list - Roxy with Eno and Manzanera just prior to the split? Split Enz/Crowded House - yes. What about: Squeeze and Elvis Costello (good together) and maybe throw in Dusty for good luck (especially if you can't get Aretha). One can but dream. Also would you be able to fit in Miles Davis somewhere? Also what about some Steely Dan-Stevie Winwood-Traffic combination?


Name: Edd

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 14:39:20

"The Boxer" - Paul Simon

Name: A Citizen

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 14:16:33

It's Presidents' Day: Don't Forget To Gloat!

Name: Rose Darling
Hoping You Are Somebody's Valentine

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 14:13:35

"Still a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest."

Can anyone guess what songwriter wrote that, and what song?

Sociable Hermit: You are a gentleman cave dweller.
My choices for a fantasy 7 show:
Tim Curry (singing any old music, great voice)
Roxy Music (agree with you on that one, Original Lester)
Rainbow (with Joe Lynn Turner on vocals) with Deep Purple members crashing the stage and doing a set with Blackmore
Maria McKee (my favorite female singer)
Little River Band (including Glenn Shorrock)
Split Enz (including Tim Finn)
Steely Dan (closing act)

This is my fantasy show since I haven't seen any of these acts live. I'm leaving other contenders out that I have already seen.
If resurrection was possible, I'd have to kick Tim C. and Rainbow off that list for the Beatles and McCartney and Wings.

Katy: Cool take on a fantasy Dan show ! I *would* shake hands with Denny Dias, if others don't knock me out of the way.

You might want to minimize usage of the phrase "don't give a rat's ass." Trust me on this one, frequent use of that can get you into serious trouble. Does your asbestos thermasuit still fit?

LTNF: I like the remake of "Just the Two of Us" by that "alien killer" Will Smith.

David in the Florida room: Hope you and the wife are doing fine and that I'll catch you in chat sometime soon.

Re: Most Romantic words from a Dan song are...
"All my empty words of love can never screen the flash I feel
Or make you understand. " Regarding the lyrics of FM, sometimes I think that Don & Walt might have thought that women aren't particularly interested in music beyond top 40 and whatever is danceable.
Maybe they thought their music was "boy music" too !

Name: Original Lester

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 13:47:52

I was channelsurfing the other night and watched a little bit of Mask, the one with Eric Stoltz and Cher. Dirty Work was played at one point in the film. I remember that great scene from Say Anything in which the dad was singing Rikki while listening to it on his car radio. What other movies, aside from FM, Heavy Metal, or Bright Lights, Big City had a Dan or Fagen song played in the duration. I'm more interested in the cases in which the song was not written for the soundtrack.

Name: Clining_Buddha
and uh by the

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 12:38:09

The post you are all getting so snippy about was not as much about the fact that you talk about other stuff...It was more about the nasty way you respond to one another and several of you have proven my point by your responses.


Name: Clining_Buddha
Location: Chicago, Il U.S.
Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 10:59:23

Oh, people PLEASE!!! Spare me the freedom of speech bullshit! And remember, just as you have the right to come in here and rag on people and say stupid things about one another, I also have the right to post my opinion about it and if YOU don't like it, keep scrolling! I never named anyone specifically yet there seems to be several of you who felt it necessary to reply..Well, as my Ex-hippie mom used to say "The Hit Dog Hollers First". Thank you for that lovely reference to my mother Stranger, was that supposed to hurt? Gimme a break! REAL LAME, almost as lame as the name "newbies". Any old assed way....
Josie: Sorry for the double post last time, it was an accident. And no, I haven't checked out Walter Becker, but I most definitely will. Thanks.

Name: USS Enterprise
Somewhere in Orbit
Location: NY, NY USA
Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 10:36:39

uh Mission Control, we have green across the board now, all systems indicate nominal, no changes appear to have occured. We are proceeding behind schedule, next message June 8.
Major Tom reporting for Capt. Picard
end trans

Name: Dallas
we have a problem!

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 08:33:25

Yes Houston, Walter is putting up another 10 letters to Craig. Why can't we get at least 1 sound byte from the new one?

Name: Houston
somewhere in a NASA facility near you

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 07:28:26
Comments: is currently offline -- maybe there's changes afoot

Name: David in the Florida Room

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 07:07:23

Just A Quick Hello to all my friends in Dan Fan Land...been so busy being "season" here in Florida and all.
But I've been enjoying some of the posts...and some of the newbies around here.
A special Hello to JosieDan Fan,RoseDarling,Oleander,both Lesters,Michael C.,Bobtedde,Foxinsocks,Maxine...hope i didn't miss anyone I've talked to. Oh Yeah,also My Pal St Al...and even Clas and Kinky who I've never actually talked with but are long time Icons here.

Bye for now, David

Name: Edd

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 04:34:14

re: "Do It Again"

That would be Paul Hardcastle. I believe the vocalist's name is Imani.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 01:12:07

Yesterday I sat listened to Ted's version of "2nd Arrangment" and I came to think of the poor enginere that erased half of that song on the multitape. I wonder; do you think he was kicked out of the studiobiz? Me, myself, would hire that guy on standing foot, he would never do the same mistake again. In fact, he would never do a mistake again whatsoever.

BigFan - yeah, Zappa is cool. I love to listen to "Roxy & Elsewhere", not for the music but for his talking between the songs. "Sun Village - it used to be a great place for raising turkeys... (honk honk)."

Schwinn - can I borrow your schwinn? In la?

doc Kelly - Smiley - yes, but that was a long time ago. Is he in that "the Spy That Came In From The Cold"?

Okay, I can be your bodyguard down Toulose Street. Or when we visit that project beyond Canal Street. But don't forget to bring the clubs (odas).

I've had a song in my head for a long time now - it's "Just Like Eddie". And I don't remember the artists name. He also did some songs - "Engine Engine Number 9", "King Of The Road". Was his name Hanz or Fritz or what?

RubyBaby - hej vackra flicka! Ha tålamod!

Name: Original Lester

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 00:50:57

Oh yeah. My girlfriend bought us tickets to see Leon Russell at the LA House of Blues on Saturday. That was my Valentine's gift. She's definitely the one for me.

Name: Original Lester

Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 at 00:44:59

That sure didn't sound like Tori Amos. I'll check it out, though. My girlfriend gave me a damn face hickey tonight. Was fun while I was getting it, but I have to work on Tuesday.Many people to answer to.

My "how I got into Steely Dan" story goes like this: When I was a kid, my mom had the Aja LP. Otherwise, we had no other SD at home. I always liked them, and I remember when we first got MTV in '82 and New Frontier would come on. Thought the video was cool, but I didn't notice how great the song was. SD was just sort of there. Always turning up on the classic rock or easy listening stations, or dentist offices, or grocery stores. They were one of those bands I always intended to get into, but I was too busy completing my Beatles or Zeppelin or Pearl Jam collection. When the '93 tour came around, a friend of mine told me he was going to see them. I thought it was cool, but didn't think much after that. Then I began a relationship with a woman ten years my senior. She was a fan, owning Gaucho and Aja on LP. When it came around to her birthday, I bought her the CD box set. She was happy, but we really didn't listen much for the next few months. Then, in August 1994, I heard Dr Wu on the radio. I had been playing guitar for several years, and I could tell that the chord progressions and vocal melodies were something else alltogether- something very beautiful. Then I knew it was time to commit myself to them. It still took me a few months to get to it, but in Feb. '95 I recorded my girlfriend's box set so that I could listen to it at the office. There was basically nothing else that I listened to for months. To this day, it is a rare day that I don't listen to SD or Fagen in some way, shape or form. When I was a little guy, I listened to the Beatles so much that they defined my childhood. When I was a teenager, I listened to U2's the Joshua Tree for many consecutive plays for almost a year. Still, no band has had the impact on my life that SD has- when I broke up with that girlfriend, Deacon Blues was my theme song. My guitar playing has improved twentyfold since I became motivated to learn their material. Now, I have a new lady who came to love SD as well. We finally got our acts together and saw them in '96. Most of you were either old enough to be able to fully enjoy SD and their live shows in the 70's, or had parents who were rabid fans and played their albums in the 70's. Without the benefit of either, I can only say I thank God that I caught on early enough to have seen them perform live. I know that most of you have the passion for SD's work that I do. Before I opened my world to them, I had been searching for that musician or band that could satisfy my craving for interesting, innovative music (which still sounded like music), with thoughtful, non-cheesy, quality lyrics. The search is over, and I don't expect anything greater from the music world. I expect great things from Two Against Nature, but as far as I'm concerned, Donald and Walter have nothing at all to prove. The funny thing is, I believe that they don't realize how truly great their work is. Perhaps they will 100 years from now when symphony orchestras start performing and recording their songs. Yes, I think they are that great. I've said my piece.

Name: NeilPeart
Currently with RUSH, the group..not the fat boy

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 23:22:31

Geena: Yes, last time I checked I was with RUSH, but not the fat dude.

Can't I listen to Steely Dan?

Name: oleander
one of the Babylon multuplets

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 21:06:45

RS--smooches to you & yours too. You guys carry the torch for carrying the torch.

GKR--So glad you got it, and that it still fits! Now what I want is a group pic of Lily and baby Jack, the latest crop of Steely Babies.

BigFan--OK, why?

Woolly, OL--Didn't Tori Amos also do a strange, slow version of "Smells Like Teen Spirit?" Took me half the song to recognize it. Haven't heard the DIA cover.

Maxine--I know it's almost too late, but: "Please make it clear that when her day is done she's got a place to go."

Doc K--I'm slated for the second weekend of JazzFest. Follow your heart, but it would be too bad to miss you.

Zeke--I've got a couple of hot leads & should be firming things up this week. You're right about things filling up--anyone else who's coming to DanFest/ JazzFest '99 better get yourself in gear! If Doc Kelly comes the first weekend, there could be TWO DanFests, BOTH attended by Clas!

Geena--are you coming, or what? Ruby?

Concert lineup--do I HAVE to stop at 7? Peter Gabriel, Talking Heads, Bob Dylan, Ben Folds Five, Aretha backed by the Temptations, Fania All Stars with Celia Cruz, and the Dan to take us through to the dawn. If I could have 8, DMB.

OK, if you won't make up epitaphs I'll make up some for you:

Roy.Scam--Never going back to his old school
Edd--Cold, daring, no flies on him
RubyBaby--Like a ghost I'm gonna haunt you
Stranger--Signed out
Kinky--Now we're gonna hear about everything you did
Hank--Gone to that triage tent in the great beyond

RIP and good night!

Name: Good King Richard
a quick hello to say a big thanks!

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 18:32:28

Oleander - what a legend! The package arrived safely a few weeks ago, just haven't had the time or access since to say how much this means to me... and I figured everyone should know of your generosity:

Oleander and friends of DanFest fame kindly had a couple of baby T-shirts made for the DanFest - we just got ours for Lily, who looks so cuuuute in it, even though it is soaked in dribble inside the first minute. Yes, sure it's hers, and as she grows up I will pass on the full story and attempt to pass on the Dan torch, but it's already my most treasured Dan posession. One fine Dan day I'll make it to a Danfest and thank you all in person. Meantime if you hear about some guy who got a t-shirt jammed fast on his head, it'll be me trying to work out why this extra-large doesn't fit!

Ole - Photo winging it's way to you shortly.

Thanks again


Name: Rush Lambasted
vast left-wing conspiracy?

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 18:21:49

Will: Don't worry. Common sense and good ol' American greed will overcome that urge. Remember "Fall of '92?"...No? Case in point! Hey, did you know that I've dropped like a 1000 lbs?

Name: Will Walter ruin the New One
with his left-wing political rantings?

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 17:43:21

God, I hope not. Walter seems to be a bitter old man these days. I hope he put it into the music, not the lyrics.

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 15:26:05

Happy V-Day: I submit that we parents make a sincere effort to thoroughly disgust our children today, by smooching, talking dirty and quietly to one another and smarmily suggesting the possibilty of sex among the geriatrics later this evening. -- Remember trying to blight out the mental image of your own parents doing it? --We could induce widespread reverse paristaltic action among the young.


Name: Geena
gittin' jiggy wit it

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 14:26:44

Stranger: And I forgot to mention the one about Bugs Bunny dressing up in drag in an attempt to seduce Elmer Fudd. I think Ken Starr will charge Hannah-Barbera, Warner Bros., and Disney for defamation of characters. It's a disgrace I tell you. I've already put in a call to Rev. Falwell to let him know of this sacrilege.

Someone who really: Thank you

David Funkhouser: I enjoyed reading your post, very direct and to the point. Good job. I too missed the Dan concert here in '93 only because a person whom I considered a friend at the time tried to sell me 2 tickets at $200 a piece. However, I have a question about the first half of your post. Please excuse my analytical mind, but I was curious how you could be in college in 1974 if you're 42 years of age now. Assuming that you are currently 42 or have just recently turned 42, that would make you still in high school in 1974 and much too young to have your own apartment? Would you care to explain?

Neil Peart: Aren't you with Rush? The band that is, not to be confused with Rush Limburger, Limbough, whatever!

RubyBaby: Hey Girl! What's this about your last email? I read it again and I didn't see anything wrong with it, you sounded fine to me. I'll always be your friend and I'll write to you soon.

oleander: Interesting facts about Steely Dan and Jay & The Americans. About the Entertainment Weekly blurb: if they've been promising a new album since their '93 tour, then it's gotta be good when it comes out this Spring. We know what perfectionists they can be.

Name: fezo

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 13:52:37

some more great additions to the official site; a funny note from "The Desk of Walter Brecker[sic]" and a letter from our heros to the host of one of those Arayan nation talk fests on MSNBC. The latter is pretty bileful between the lines; my liberal soul thought this wonderful; i imagine Mayor Rudy reacted by cutting social services to 100,000 more homeless waifs

Name: Ruby Baby
roses are red, violets are blue
Location: the best song I know, is called "Dr. Wu"
Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 12:59:32

Oleander: I wondered if Don & Walt were part of "Do I Love You." Thanks for the info! The nerve of you, though, for making such a large Steely Dan related post!

Also, my Barrytown shirt has shrunk enough for me to wear it places! Yesssssss!

Original Lester: I'll bet you my last piaster that I heard the same Do It Again lady on this snooze jazz station up here. I had mixed feelings - I was glad to hear the song, but she just doesn't have that certain attitude in her voice for that song. Like she didn't have a clue about what she was singing. Does that make sense to you?

Clas: kram och kyssa


Name: Kneel Fin
gonna peddle my faith

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 11:30:36

Dear Rev. Jerry Falwell:

My three year old son is thin and single and doesn't eat much. He often will put on a Tigger or Buzz Lightyear costume and march around the house. But lately, he dresses up in his older sister's costumes...and today he told me he wants a Tinky-Winky costume for his birthday in April. Should I be worried?


A concerned Father


Dear Concerned,

If he is circumcised, he is the Anti-Christ. I and my legions will pray for you.

Peace and love,

Rev. Falwell

P.S. Have you ever see me and Springer in the same place??? Think about it.

Name: WoolyMan

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 10:22:55

Original Lester: Maybe that's Tori Amos' version of DIA -- real slow like?

Looks like a few more new pages went up on the official site.

Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch library

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 07:36:04

Clas: Have you read any of John LC's "Smiley" works? BTW, while I may not be the best golfer in the world I'm certainly not so bad that I need a bodyguard.

Name: johnboy
Bubble, Bubble, Teletubbie, & Trouble

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 05:53:45

Edd, Dr. Mu, Funky Cold Medina, et al: My vinyl copy of "Bop 'Till You Drop" has a 1979 (not 1978) copyright claim!? To the best of my (admittedly faulty) recollection, it was promoted as the first rock/pop album that was _recorded_ digitally. I also recall that there were a very few previous digital recordings of classical music that were, and remain, relatively obscure.
Jim Keltner appears. David Lindley as well (Clas....). And what happened to Chaka Khan (sp?)?

Name: Clas
..there's something forgotten in Denmark...

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 02:48:02

RubyBaby - aha! Yeah, I've seen some tendencies in that way over here too. But it's better to stem in the creek than in the river.

Or is it better to nip it in the bud?

Bob Tedde - man, for a moment after I'd read your Hamlet-line i just sat and stared out in the nowhere. Everything went black in my head and I thought - what the hell was that?

But now I got it!

Well, that was the second thing that confused me this day, the first was;

I've just read John Le Carrč's "A Taylor In Panama" (I think that is the English title). And guess what? The Panama-channel is not going from east to west, it's going from west to east!

From the Pacific (east), out in the bay (west).

Name: Mayor Rudy

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 00:36:32

Bill Clinton has survived, will the majority in Congress ? Guttless GOP senators fearing retaliation failed to get over 50 votes on 2 counts, unfuckinbelieveable. How will history review the past 13 months?

Name: Original Lester

Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 at 00:13:09

I just heard some lady's version of Do it Again- who was she? It was an interesting twist, but not particularly good. Then I got to thinking- there have been Beatles covers which could be argued to be as good as or better than the original. I don't believe this is possible with an SD song. With Do it Again, for example, you just can't bring out the tale quite the same without Donald's voice or without Dias' mastery on the sitar. They should make it a million dollar challenge to all other bands.

Name: oleander
bolt from the blue

Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 at 23:28:14

Warning: Dan-related content

Liner notes from Jay and the Americans,"Come A Little Bit Closer--The Best Of":

"In 1969 the group recorded a sequel album in 'Wax Museum' and produced it themselves, as they had done with 'Sands Of Time.' The first single release from the project was The Ronettes' 'Walkin' In The Rain.' 'We were in the studio mixing the song and Bob Crewe walked in. He was working next door and he said, "Who's that?" We said, "Jay And The Americans." "That's a hit," he said. That was encouraging because we were already having problems, technically - and having to work in a studio we really didn't want to work in.
" 'You know who's playing on that? Walter Becker and Donald Fagen. Steely Dan were our back-up. They were our session guys for over three years. They were on "Walkin' In The Rain," "Do I Love You," and all of the "Wax Museum" album.' "

Entertainment Weekly, 2/12/99:

"STEELY DAN Last studio album: 1980's 'Gaucho.' Sure, they've been promising it since their '93 reunion tour, but Becker and Fagen have now actually set a date--June 8--for 'Two Against Nature,' their first new set since the Carter administration."

Strictly business,


Name: !!!!lester the nightfly???
I've seen them on the tv, the movie show!

Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 at 22:08:57

David- ahh! What do u know? Just kidding, i think u should get post of the year next year at our guestbook awards ceremony.
I actually enjoyed reading a post in here for a change. What happen with college u just went one year? 74-74?

Razor- I dont think I'm gonna do that, there will be plenty of stories about danfest right hear in May, but y your not going?
BTW, your right its billy boy. What ever happen to him? Sax player i have no idea either. But I knew that song for years but didnt know Withers did that song until i bought his greatest hits cd last summer. The same funny thing happened when i bought SD gold for the first time(about 11 years ago) just because FM was on it. At that time I didnt know who they were, what an amazing 11 years its been so far, now i'm just waiting to hear the new cd so i can call it my own for my generation! I do wish in a way i was into our boys when they were fab.


Name: RubyBaby
where did you get those shoes?

Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 at 21:29:21

David: Is Funkhouser your real last name? Anyway - I enjoyed your post. I took it as sort of an ode to Steely Dan.
I particularily liked your observation that D Fagen's being a genius is probably a burden. I never thought of that before.
I notice that your college career was even shorter than mine! But your ear for music is/was magnificent.

Geena: Hi! I am amused by your observations. I'm talking about those comic book characters :)
Those teletubbies give me the creeps, but Falwell's thoughts about them are even creepier!
And about my last e-mail to you - I was a bit tipsy when I wrote it so please take it with a grain of salt. Forgive me, friend?

Clas: Love the poem! But I'm shocked at your comments! Here in America, Dogs are known to let us sleep on their beds, in their rooms. Sometimes, they let us "mate" in privacy! And they mostly allow us to sit on their furniture, which we are priviledged to buy them. They excercise us daily while pulling us swiftly along on a leash. They don't even mind when we look like idiots racing behind them! And thanks to Dogs, we get to buy more shoes more often! If that's not getting "the Royal Treatment," I don't know what is!


Name: NeilPeart, aka Beavis
The things that pass for knowledge, I can't understand.

Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 at 18:57:08

I'd just like to say, THANKS to David F. (below) for his comments.

As to the others who continue to post in're all cool with me...Dan can bring us together (sung to Captain and Tenille) ROFL!

As for the racist undertow that exists in here...I would hope that that would go away, someday. As one can quickly tell from the Dan's music and is a mixed bag. We should be too.

As for the rap "theft" that has been gone over and over and over and over in this room. It's theft. Sampling should be banned. Coolio and such are some good grooves combined with silly lyrics. Coolio's cool with me, too, by the way. But let's have some Parliament of the 90's. Hopefully the year 2000 will bring back ORIGINAL music, a la the 70's. Bootsy Collins, George Clinton..where are you?! We need your talent. We need your drugs!

As for the rest...I'm here to all ya want. The only real thing you'll hear outta me is that REAL music is KING here! Thank you Steely Dan for giving me music to turn over in my head as I'm down in Panama, kickin' back on the hammock.


Name: bob tedde
Location: sd, ca
Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 at 17:47:09

Clas:Wasn't Hamlet a Great Dane?


Name: OMIO

Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 at 12:39:53

OJ, Bubba Bill, & the rest: The Book Of Liars should have a
special edition just for them.. If they were busted for growing dope, they'd be doing 3 to 20, have their houses & bank accounts forfeited, and their kids in one of those nice, safe foster homes. "See The Glory.."

Name: fezo

Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 at 06:55:29

Clas: yeah, that was really me. the combination of antibiotics and a reminder of the farce of the O.J. case brought down the p.c. guard a bit. No disrespect was intended toward the victims.

I only released only half of my Falwell bile. At least O.J. golfs.

I need to sit down, put "Kamikariad" and escape into that fantasy world. Unfortunately I loaned the CD.

Name: DrMu
faulty memory circuit

Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 at 06:40:56

JW, Razor Boy: You're both right

David: excellent essay...and I think Becker gives Dan that extra edge or oomph. You can hear it on 11 Tracks of Whack.

Name: David Funkhouser
Location: stephens city, Va US
Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 at 05:45:47

I am 42 years of age. I was in college from 74-74 going to virginia polytechnicinstitute and living in my own apt. I was mesmerized by Steely Dan after being introduced to Katy Lied, the quality of the album was so crisp, the studio muscians the best the world could offer, Carlton,Felman, Porcaro, michael Omartian, some of the "Crusaders gang"I believe also, just simply the most exquiste music of any genre I had ever heard. I followed every album anxiously and was never dissapointed by fagen's unique voice and the tight,neat crisp, daring,haunting , intellectualindepth, mystic,beautiful music, which has never been parrallel by an other muscians before or since. Fagen is trully a genius, a burden to bear I suppose, Becker, is the structure piecing it all together. What a wonder duo and gift to the world they were and hope to continue to hear. I just about had the opportunity to hear D&W Dan at the Nissan Pavilion several years back. tickets sold out in a day. Right in my backyard two of the true brilliant artistic giants of this century, and missed it. These guys and there music shape my view of life to some extent, brash individualistic, artistic arrogance without malice, perfectionists devoted to they craft to produce nothing less than their immense talent could produce at any given period of time. If they red their mail, very doubtful. You are true gifts to the world of music and such so that it will never be riveled soonor has since in my opinion. their music puts my mind in differents worlds planes, places to take me away from the harsh realities of the world to poetic verse fantasies of brillance. No one compoares to them even close in musicianship and creativity, a git to the world. David

Name: Edd

Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 at 05:37:31

re: "Edd, no comment...?"

Actually, no. I've always suspected the circuit might cause some problems with loading, but I've run it on a couple different receivers/amps and never had a problem.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 at 03:40:10

This is todays Great Dan-poetry:


By: Jody Miller

July 17, 1997

The most majestic creature found on earth,
To no such other has God given birth.

Standing tall and proud as can be,
I am happy to have one next to me.

Filled with such courage and loyalty,
He treats his person like royalty.

Of what I speak can only be a Dane,
For no other creature could be so tame.

A noble creature by your side,
Someone close in whom to confide.

With love in his heart and drool on his face,
He will never run away, but will always stay in place.

His one love of life is the human hand,
Together side by side against the world we stand..."

Listen: "He treats his person like royalty...". How the hell can a dog treat a person like royalty?

And "...he will never run away, but will always stay in place", that's a god damn lie, that is what it is.

And this; "...for no other creature could be so tame...", fucking crap, I had a flea that were more tame than Pompe.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 at 01:34:22

Boring Police - this is not a wish, this is a fact: The harder they come, the harder they fall.

(don't take it personally, I'm just practicing my English).

JökER - I agree with you... but, 3 dots. It's just the way it is.

And about academic painting; I think that too many painters jumps to the picassostyle before they learn the basics.

What I mean is; don't you think Stevie Gadd knows where the "one" is while he's out on the battlefield? (to be able to learn the basics, you must be talented)

Doc Kelly - sorry Doc, no golfer. But I can be your caddy. And bodyguard.

Maxine - Rickie Lee Jones once said that Steely Dan is "boys music". But I think that is bullshit.

Fezo - was that really you?

Name: TheStranger
i kept the lights off the whole time

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 23:31:34

to the coward who signed in as suck on this,
that's no way to talk to your daddy.

Name: TheStranger
the brentwood blues

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 23:26:40

dr. mu,
how did i ever let you involve me in discussing that fucking o.j. again? anyway, yes, ito was a fool and the prosecution was inept, but the case was amazingly strong & proved. if o.j. had been white, and the two victims black with that same black jury, o.j. would be rooming with charlie manson now. en

Name: Someone who really gives a fuck

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 23:21:12

And I'm sure Juanita Broaddrick was also raped 10 years ago in Arkansas and now wants to cash in and get a nose job. If she hasn't gone to the cops before speaking to the Wall Street Journal or NBC, I don't give a fuck what she has to say. I'm not saying it would be okay for anyone to rape anybody, but this whole mentality of seeking out new baggage on the President's life just to ruin him was old five years ago when "travelgate" erupted. If the President raped somebody, it should be handled by the police, not by the fucking Wall Street Shitrag.

Name: Republican National Committee
HELP!!! We've fallen and we can't get up!!!!

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 23:09:10

To anyone concerned- please lend us a helping hand. We could always use some cash, but what we really need is an agenda. We sort of lost out on our pet issue, and we sort of ran out of ideas. We will take any recommendations from anybody. We are even going to sponsor a national 4th grade essay contest where children will be asked to write on the subject: "What I Would do if I was Head of the RNC." So far, we look forward to trying a new and improved Dan Quayle on America. Do you think you could kindly buy into it this time? We're really high on Elizabeth Dole, but Pat Buchanan has already said that if she won't support a Constitutional ban on abortion, he'll put her back in the kitchen where she belongs. We are also planning on running some ads with Sally Strothers as our spokesperson. Then we know many of you won't be able to ignore our plight.

I would hereby like to apologize for all of the crap that the Republican Party has put the nation through for the past six years. We didn't mean any harm....It was all Newt's fault! Yeah, that's it, NEWT! It was all his idea. We didn't want any part of it, but he threatened to beat us all up. We're sorry we tried everything in our power to remove President Clinton from office. Honest, we were only joking around. All that impeachment stuff was just a practical joke. We thought that part about immediately releasing the Starr Report on the internet was a hoot, but now we are deeply saddened at ourselves. Please, feel our pain.

Name: JWMalibu

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 22:37:11

Razor - that would have been Grover Washington, Jr.

Name: DrMu
men in the treeeez

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 21:50:27

DJ Nightfly: Is that the 3 Dog Night song??...I believe that they only did covers (didn't write their own hits)...Edd?

Name: Razor Boy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 21:46:43

DJ - Bill Whithers - "Just the Two of Us," but it was in collaboration with a sax player whose name escapes me - The year was 1984 or '85. Can we have a day by day account of the Dan Fest in New Orleans, it if comes to pass? Who was there, what you did (clubs visited, live bands enjoyed).


Name: Clinton beat the perjury rap
But will he beat the RAPE charges by Juanita Broaddrick?

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 20:52:56

Coming soon, from NBC and/or the Wall Street Journal: An interview with a Clinton rape victim.

Name: Michael C. Packard
Location: Cool Night in the Pineywood Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 20:49:29

Howdy, DanFanGangLand!

Listening to the "Citizen" set tonight, I thought about one of the songs in my collection, the "Katy Lied" or "Bentover Backwards---Katy Lied Outtakes" set.

When "Your Gold Teeth II" set is playing, and Donald says "Let's hear the guitar solo" (Denny Dias on guitar). The solo track begins, and Donald says, "Holy Fuck, That's Great!".

Well, to me Steely Dan (Walt and Don and the Gang) are Fucking GREAT!!

Now, go drink some Cuervo Gold, smoke some fine Columbian, and know in your mind that Steely Dan is "fucking GREAT"!!


; )

Name: DJ Jazzy Lester and the Fresh Nightfly

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 20:13:30

song trivia: artist and title? I dont know it might be a hard one
"I've seen the crystal raindrops fall" hint: the song was recently covered by an alien killer!

Lester- Mickey Way!!!

I guess were stuck with Slick boy for a while! Its a sad day!

what the fuck is a telebaby anyway? Wait i dont want to know, forget it, fartwell has no clue! If the telebabies r gay because they r purple than what about the Vikings? I thought it was pink anyway, what is fartwell talking about?

Ya know for the last year I've been loggin in the chat room, I never thought i would need to put a password on the name lester.
But someone has put a password on it so now i cant log on as lester anymore not even les or nightfly. So that sucks!

mona- 3


Name: El Supremo
learned to work the saxaphone, I play just
Location: Lahaina, Maui, USA
Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 19:40:52

Hello, DanFanDom!!

Just to let you know how much the DanMoments are important. I was sitting in a local bar in Maui recently---called the Red Baron---walked over to the "largest tree in the USA", a Banyan tree brought over by the Chinese in the 1880's or something.

Anyway, "Tomorrow's Girls" are on the beach there, as are the Humpback whales swimming.

"In the cool of the evening, in the last light of the Triple Sun . . ." now, I am wondering what those lyrics really mean.

Honestly, you are the best people around, despite your illnesses.

Is that a word?


Katy, My Wife For Life!!!

Happy Valentine's Day, Sweetheart, I will be home with you soon!!
And, I love you with all my mind, heart, body, and soul---and I got Don and Walt's autographed picture for you---honey sweet rose darling!


Name: Sociable Hermit
Scardy Jerry

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 18:04:19

fezo: I think that's what Falwell and all of his ilk ARE afraid of - that gay men will love thy neighbor. And, you know, of course, without his help, we will fall prey to all of their advances, because we are helpless without the Christian Right to protect us from a homosexual sneak attack.


Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 17:37:07
Comments: comment on my previous questions?

Name: fezo

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 17:03:12

Dr. Mu and The Stranger are both right about O.J.: I always thought he got off because there were too many black women on the seated jury. You got to know that they were jealous as hell that some good looking, white woman ended up with the Juice. There was no way they were going to convict him for killing in (their minds) a rich, white 'ho.

Falwell is a freak. The man has a weird obsession with homosexuals. Why is that religious people spend so much time picking on oppressed minorites. What happenned to love thy neighbor.

I want new product now.

Name: DrMu
life is good

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 15:08:07

Geena, TB: LOL...and I was just getting ready to pour wine and kerosene on the kids teletubbies tape.

Stranger: Taking tongue away from cheek now...lesse...OJ hung aroung white people, had a white wife, lived in a white neighborhood (and did absolutely nothing for the 'hood unlike other greats like Jim Brown), was generally revered by the authorities (white and black) who gave him a pass after a number of domestic incidents. He was living in town with a black police chief at the time...racism? the Fuhrman stuff was stupid and irrelevent to the case since the evidence was mouthing off to an author in North Carolina with no concrete evidence of fixing cases at home... racism?...on the part of the jurors? Perhaps... insane sexual jealousy motivating OJ? You bet! In the end Johnny Cochran was brilliant at confusing the jurors, the prosecution had a case which they made way too complicated, and Judge Ito let chaos rule the courtroom.

Name: Suck on this

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 14:10:52

Stranger: I must admit, if Mu stated that the OJ case was about sex, then I'd be surprised at his verbal misstep. You however, have stepped in it, by stating OJ was about black racism. Actually, friend, it was about the cold-blooded murder of a woman and her friend. How quickly you forgot.

Clinton Crimes? puh--leeze. It took so long to figure out that
our President was orally serviced in the Oval Office, and have the Republicans drag it around the mud a while in the public forum, and then, barely, have the Senate narrowly acquit his 'impeachable offenses'. Yeah, right. It may not be the most honorable thing to have discovered, but how would you like to recant all the blow jobs you got in your office?

Perhaps Clinton's "Era of Good Feelin' was over when the tapes were let loose, but, perhaps the Republicans in the House (and Senate) now know a NEW thing to do with their wives. It's not so bad after all.

Watch out House of Reps - you're going home in 2000........ - 8 dots - fuck you, Clas

Name: TheStranger
typical warm sunshine in l.a.

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 13:50:18

your valuable leads on sexual misbehavior by comic book characters will be shipped to ken starr immediately. how have we let this go on this long?
dr. mu,
the o.j. verdict was not related to sex. it was directly related to black racism. your analogy is nonsense. please put more thought into your gbook diatribes, which used to be of higher caliber.
critics of clinton verdict,
clinton was guilty of crimes & he should have resigned. but his crimes were not 'treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.' in fact, he was not even accused of such crimes. the house managers are nuts.

Name: Mock Turtle

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 13:25:11

Any poll conducted over e-mail is inherently biased. Especially if you want age and sex data.

Name: Geena
yeah, we're movin' on up

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 13:12:29

DrMu: Looks like Bubba Clinton got off AGAIN

and Jerry Falwell needs to find more constructive things to do with his time than to come up with the notion that Tinky-Winky, the purple Teletubbie is gay. I spoke to a friend in England the other day and she says that over there, this is old news.

Now, does that mean that Barney the purple dinosaur is gay, or what about Ernie and Bert, they live together, and is Donald Duck a pervert because he doesn't wear any pants? And what about Popeye and Olive Oyl, they didn't conceive Sweet Pea, he was abandoned by his mother, My my, what's this world coming to, and don't tell me that there is nothing wrong with Batman and Robin. An older man and a young boy running around in tights wearing masks and getting into bondage situations? Sounds pretty kinky to me. I think I'll turn on the 3 Stooges now and watch some good old fashioned violence.

Name: Teletubbies Breakdown
You Heard It Here First

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 13:12:22

Tinky Winky is not gay. Tinky Winky is female. The color purple notwithstanding. Let me explain the sexual breakdown.

It all has to deal with the symbols on their heads.
The triangle is the woman. That is the shape of the mass of female pubic hair when a woman is standing. The fact that Tinky Winky has a triangle and carries a purse is proof enough that she is a woman.

The homosexual of the bunch is Poe, who has a circle on top of his head. The ass hole.

Dipsy is the heterosexual male, because of the rod on his head.

And LaaLaa is a bisexual, probably female to balance out the sexes. The piece on her head is a bent and twisted rod, suggesting that she goes either way, unsure of which way she wants, but not really caring about it either, as her name, "LaaLaa", implies.
As far as names go, Tinky Winky, sounds more like it would be the affectionate nickname given by a man to his wife.
Poe, rhymes with "Mo", as in "Homo". Not very flattering.
Dipsy, is also a crude reference to what the male appendage does in the act of intercourse.
Why the homosexual community embraced TW instead of Poe may mean that they are more comfortable with pretending to be a woman figure than a male homsexual. It serves the fantasy better.
And, as I mentioned, LaaLaa, just bounces around without a care, ("LaaLaa"), not too concrened with a definate black or white sexuality.
And, yes, they all do get together and act silly and have fun and exist together peacefully. Which is the way it should be. Only Jerry Falwell can turn existing peace and harmony into something he claims is against God.
Jerry Falwell should be rammed up the ass by Dipsy.
But then, that would change Dipsy into either the gay one or the bisexual one, and I'd have to rethink this whole thing.

Name: Maxine

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 13:08:04

Hi everybody!
Over the last few weeks I have had a chance to chat with some of you in the notorious CHAT ROOM, and it has been really interesting, but I have begun wondering about something that was being discussed the other night (sorry, don't remember which one.)

Someone mentioned that Steely Dan has a mostly male appeal and I frankly find that hard to believe. Also, there was some question of the average age of SD listeners and thier geography.
Would anyone be willing to participate in a little poll?
If so e-mail me with your age, gender,marital status, state of residence, and how long you have been a fan. Be sure to put "Steely Dan Polling Data" on the subject line so I can spot you easily.
I will report my findings in a few weeks. (Who knows, maybe I'll even get extra credit or something!)


Name: DrMu
President Acquited, Stock Market Plummets

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 12:23:55

Consistent with the OJ verdict, if it relates to sex (even if it relates to misleading courts of law under oath and potential witnesses to short circuit a sexual harassment case) and "personal" behavior, the result is an acquital.

Wall Street shakes nervously with the notion that the Senate after years of dormancy might now try to "accomplish" something this year.

But the best news is a) whatever goes on inside the Beltway has little affect on my life (except for robbing my wallet every April 15) nor most Americans, and b) with no further distractions it's time to move up the release date for 2 Against Nature and commence the commercial hype.

BTW: Falwell is an idiot... George Michael said that the yellow Teletubbie with the corkscrew on his head is the gay one,

Name: DrMu
President Acquited, Stock Market Plummets

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 12:21:24

Consistent with the OJ verdict, if it relates to sex (even if it relates to misleading courts of law under oath and potential witnesses to short circuit a sexual harassment case) and "personal" behavior, the result is an acquital.

Wall Street shakes nervously with the notion that the Seante after years of dormancy might now try to "accomplish" something this year.

But the best news is a) whatever goes on inside the Beltway has little affect on my life (except for robbing my wallet every April 15) nor most Americans, and b) with no further distractions it's time to move up the release date for 2 Against Nature and commence the commercial hype.

BTW: Falwell is an idiot... George Michael said that the yellow Teletubbie with the corkscrew on his head is the gay one,

Name: Edd
A supernatural delight...

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 12:19:16

"Dancin' In The Moonlight" was done by King Harvest in '73.

Name: Mona Bone Jakon
Where's my tea?

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 11:39:13

Wierd, Jim Croce dies flying out of Louisiana, Lynnard Skynnard dies flying into Louisiana. Is there a triangle we don't know about?

So Clinton is off scott free! I guess to get serious punishment in this country you have to be arrested for driving while intoxicated.

Who sang the song, "dancing in the moonlight". Now that's a cool tune. How many songs these days use the word "outta sight"?

Name: YGK
Location: New York, Baby!
Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 11:19:06

folks: to continue the flushing of the House of Representatives, log on to

get rid of these obnoxious idiots in the House!


Name: Dangerous Democrat
On the Dunes

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 11:15:16

Just as I predicted on these very pages months ago, not only has the President beaten this thing, but he's come out on top.

Pardon me while I gloat.

Name: I don't

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 11:08:10

So Clas, You're going to New Orleans for a Dan fest, but you didn't go to see Steely Dan when they playing in Europe. Man, where is your head at dude? You're a joke!

Name: OMIO

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 10:36:11

Edd: Standing Corrected Here..
Contrite & Polite..

Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch clubhouse

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 10:25:59

Say Zeke/Ole/Clas: do y'all golf? I'll be bringin' the clubs...

Name: I.M. Betterdenue
Damn It, You're Right!

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 10:10:20

First of all, GK John, you are correct! It is Riverdale, and not Filmore! I was testing all of you to see who was worthy enough to be my second in command, and sir, it is you. Of course, you'll be expected to change your name to something in the line of Good Earl John, Good Duke John, Good Baron John, etc. Yes, it obviously had nothing to do with Steely Dan, but then neither will this Gb in the matter of a few days. I am currently in the process of organizing a major raid which will officially give me control.

And another thing, this is supposed to be a joke - in response to the idiocy of Clining Buddha and all the other cocky newbies. So, stop being so ultra sensitive.

The Archies? come on, really...

Name: Quick Henry, Hide!
Going to the candidates Deb@te

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 09:59:52

Just a thought... Now that the Senate has acquitted Slick Willie of all those nasty, horrible things, does this mean he didn't do them at all? Or am I free to bang my congressional aide on my desk and say what the fuck I want about it?

Name: Edd

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 08:52:29

Larry Coryell, not Carlton.

Name: OMIO

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 08:50:03

Re: Cree Brubeck.. Chris Brubeck was in a band called Sky King way back when in '75 or so.. Great album on Columbia named Secret Sauce.. Had one song with Tower Of Power horns called "Why Don't You Take Us" which is really luscious.. Good to hear he's still with us.. With Larry Carlton, hm? Nice..

Name: The Boring Police
I'ts boring

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 08:25:47

Yeah Clas, Your posts have become REAL BORING. I hate to this, but when you were drinking you were much funnier. Maybe it's time to hit the bottle again. This Pompe shit is really played out. Please don't waste space here, I mean between you and Joker... oh never mind. (You see Clas, 3 dots.BORING)


Name: Big Fan
Anyworld that I'm ...
Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 08:06:38

Some SD related info in the news today:

This is from yesterdays edition of The Boston Phoenix RAPTURE by Alex Pappadames about the upcoming Grammys:
"Walter Becker and Donald Fagen of Steely Dan didn't take kindly to the wholesale sampling of their "Black Cow" by Lord Tariq and Peter Gunz for "Deja Vu (Uptown Baby)," and they successfully sued for full writing credit -- as a Steely Dan song, it's better than "Green Earrings" and nowhere near as dope as "Do It Again.""

While I know this is old news and I apologize for listing the MTV link with out qualifying the date, my point was about the attitudes of the parties involved.

From: New Music Express Online:

"STEELY DAN are to release their first studio album in 19 years this summer, according to reports in the US. The band, who were sampled by Super Furry Animals for their track 'The Man Don't Give A Fuck', last released a studio album, 'Gaucho', in 1980."

According to my Farmer's Almanac summer start's June 21, 1999, hmmmm?

Name: Black Bart
Lepetomane Thruw@y
Location: Rock Ridge,
Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 07:26:48

To: Hedy Lamarr

"That's HEDLEY!!"

"Where de white women at??"

"My name is Jim, but people call me... Jim."

"Hello boys! I missed you last night!"

"Oh Bart, You're so good. And they're so dumb!"

"Sheriff Bart first man ever whip Mongo!"

"The sheriff is near!"

"A wed wose! How womantic!"

"Little bastard shot me right in the ass."

"Is anyone going to help that poor man?!"

"Candygram for Mongo!"

"NO NO NO! You sissies!"

"...Or are we just jerking off?"

"Can't you see that man is a ni?"

"Miss Lilly Von Schtupp!"

"Are we awake?"
"We don't know. Are we black?"
"Yes we are."
"Then we are awake. But very puzzled."

Name: Philosopher's Son

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 06:58:43

"If 6 Guestbook Posters (or Clas, Wrong Guestbook, Kinky, etc) whine incessantly in a forest, and no one else is there to hear/read them, do they make a sound?

or does anyone really care?

Name: GK John
Runnin' thru the b@ckwoods bare

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 06:57:32

IM- I don't really mind folks who stop in with ridiculous rantings every once in a while, but if you're going to thump your chest in such a fashion, at least have the correct facts... Archie Andrews & Co attended Riverdale HS. I'm just trying to help a newbie not make an ass out of himself...

Witchy- Ah'm on mah way cher! Ah got a shitload o dat Viagry stuff an a bagfull o dem profylactic thangs! Whar's de strenth come from? Ah learnt reel early on how ta screw from dem gators! Ya gotta be strong an fass wid gators! Ya know, all dat thrashin' about an all! Kine of remines me of you, darlin'!

Name: John Cage
on the stage

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 06:54:50

I will now perform my infamous composition, "4 Minutes and 33 Seconds".


Name: joKer's internet resource
something's wrong with his medulla oblongata

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 06:23:52

here, it's a start:

.....this IS the John Cage Guestbook, isn't it?

Name: jOKER
thank someone it's friday

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 06:17:16

CLAS: *sigh* ........i dunno, Clas, why don't you tell me? i'm not very good at these rhetorical questions.......

there are some musicians who create wonderful art WITHOUT rules like bridges/verses/refrains. the late John Cage, know about him? Ever hear 4'33"? Wonderful piece! Ever hear of Stereolab? Half of their songs really drone on and on without ANY verses or structure whatsoever.

There was once a time where the RULE in art was to paint what you saw. It's called "academic painting"'s what they teach in school until you figured out your own style. It was the only thing allowed to be displayed in the art salons. Then along came Picasso and Futurism and Surrealism, and etc.......

There is a certain challenge to do good design within rules; I'm not saying to throw out ALL canons and conventions {if you look at this website you'll see that I have held onto a good rule or 2];

the true artistry is to know WHICH ones to toss to suit your artistic expression.............and sure enough, this stupid 3-dot rule is certainly one of them, ESPECIALLY when it applies to rambling on and on to Scandanavians about something OTHER than Steely Dan....jeez, gimme your e-mail so we can keep kicking this fucking horse somewhere else.........

Name: Edd

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 03:07:39

re: Q


Name: clas
oh yes, just another hard time band...

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 01:11:18

JÖKer: I was thinking about those rules you're talking about. The "Three Dot" rule is a rule that can't be broken. Why?


You don't create "new exciting" music with an untuned guitar? No, you retune it into new open chords, like Joni Mitchell? Or by not staying in tune when you're singing (no offense BT).

When we're listening to pop/rock-music we wanne have verses, bridges and refrains?

I think the difficult, and the challenging part, of making art is that it has to be done within rules.

Two cents, thank you...

Name: JosieDanFan
one more thing..

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 00:56:19

Buddha: Ya know Walter Becker has a damn good solo album out too. You know him don't you? The other half of Steely Dan. And try not to double post about annoying. Have a groovessential day!! :o)

Name: JosieDanFan
Yes I'd like to Scrapple. Didn't you hear the man say I'll never say no?

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 00:45:51

Oh vey I have a head ache!! What's with all the cocky newbies? Maybe you should take Peter's advice, hell it's worth a shot (no pun intended ). I can post about what I want in here, when I want. True, it IS the Steely Dan Guest Book, but there are not written rules about what should and will be posted here. Because we come here due to our mutual love of the band, some of us have also found we have other things in common, which is a major basis of friendship!! And friends talk about personal stuff. Not that talking about your mother isn't personal at all, never! Some of us have met or plan on meeting soon, in fact in honor of Steely Dan, so go ahead admonish the veteran posters for giving a damn about others, God forbid THAT should happen. And go ahead and say mean and nasty things to me or about me..I could use a good laugh. Peace out y'all..
Oh I forgot to say something about Steely Dan, when shall I expect you with the guillotine?

JDF ( Just Damn Fed-up)

Name: Clas
oggah chaka oggah chaka kahn

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 00:38:09

This Moody Bastard: "I think Pompe is calling you from the bedroom - you better run to him." Not THE bedroom, it's HIS bedroom.

Don't your dogs have own bedrooms over there?

The Stranger: sure is, fuckhead.

BS, Vansbro: Science Poption? Well, maybe, but I think they were a little too lite for me. Do you know what Claes Dieden and Roger Wallis are up to these days?

Name: Peter North
'neath the roving sign

Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 at 00:17:06

Sounds like what all of you need is a good blow job. If you guys would just come out to LA and co-star with me, you would get out all this pent-up frustration. If not, just go beat off and don't post again until you've shot your man goo. I'm telling you, it makes all the difference in the world.

Fire away, guestbook soldiers!

Name: Boffo Sarvante
@the real world

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 23:39:54

What a bunch of lame groupie wannabes! Why don't you people get a life? Geez, this is how I imagine a trekkie convention must sound like.

Name: TheStranger
screw niceness

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 22:47:51

clining buddha,
no one gives a rat's ass about you or your broken-down ex-hippie mom so stop telling us what to do and above all don't tell us about your fucking childhood. it's depressing.

man, it's fun to get mean once in a while.

Name: Witch Queen
of New Orleans

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 19:44:44

Beware Of These Viruses:

Ellen Degeneres virus: Your IBM suddenly claims it's a MAC
Monica Lewinsky virus: Sucks all the memory out of your computer.
Titanic virus: Makes your whole computer go down.
Mike Tyson virus: Quits after one byte.
Prozac virus: Screws up your RAM but your processor doesn't care.
Lorena Bobbit virus: Turns your hard disk into a 3.5 inch floppy.
Woody Allen virus: By-passes the motherboard and turns on a daughter card.
Joey Buttafuoco virus: Only attacks minor files
Spice Girl virus: Has no real function, but makes a pretty desktop.
Ronald Reagan virus: Saves your data, but forgets where it is stored.
Dr. Kevorkian virus: Searches your hard drive for old files and deletes them.
Oprah Winfrey virus: Your 20GB hard drive suddenly shrinks to 8GB, and then slowly expands to 30GB.
AT&T virus: Every 3 minutes it tells you what great service you are getting.
MCI virus: Every 3 minutes it reminds you that you're paying too much for the AT&T virus.
Arnold Schwarzenegger virus: Terminates and stays resident. It'll be back.
Viagra virus: Expands your hard drive while putting too much pressure on your zip drive.
Clinton PC virus: It has a six inch hard drive and no memory

GK John: Ah'm heah darlin', jest waitin' fore you to come back from da store wit dat Viagry stuff, so's we kin do some mo raslin' in da swamp. damn boy, you jes like dem swamp gators, where'n you git dat strength from? Have mercy!

Name: U.R.Horsesass

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 19:05:22

Greetings I.M.Betterdenue, I am U.R.Horsesass. Now that we've gotten that cleared up, might I suggest that you and Rose darkling get together to compare delusions of grandiose and figure out once and for all which one [actually] knows everything and can handle the pressures of ruling here, since of course we will all be out to flame, curse and embarass you and only you.


Name: Patrick Hammer Fay
Location: Chico, CA USA
Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 18:55:20

I'm a weather guy in Chico and find myself inadvertantly putting Dan lyrics in my weathercast. The latest was today when I talked about the California coast and said there was "No Stratus at All".
At least one viewer must have understood. Is July 8th the release date? Thats what I have heard.

Name: Patrick Hammer Fay
Location: Chico, CA USA
Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 18:54:50

I'm a weather guy in Chico and find myself inadvertantly putting Dan lyrics in my weathercast. The latest was today when I talked about the California coast and said there was "No Status at All".
At least one viewer must have understood. Is July 8th the release date? Thats what I have heard.

Name: Q

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 18:44:38

Gaucho - DTS from liner notes:

"Remixed by Elliot Scheiner"

"Mixed for 5.1 channel at RIVER SOUND STUDIOS NYC"


" Produced by Gary Katz"


PS Allman's Fillmore East on DTS is killer.

Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 17:17:53


Name: I.M. Betterdenue
Kneel before me!

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 15:37:56

One more thing, all you sad people who think that this is a place where friends could be made based on common likes and dislikes are forever banished! Do not think that you can come in here, be nice to strangers, turn those strangers into friends, and then remain courteous by keeping in touch and acting civil and asking about other personal things that have nothing to do with Steely Dan, ehh, I mean the Archies!!!!!!!!! There will be NO conversational overtures of anyhing other than the main subject!!! If anyone sees that the talk is straying into alien waters, they are hereby demanded to immediately put a stop on the conversation and steer it back on course.
Or everyone involved will be beheaded!!!!!!!!!!!!

I HAVE SPOKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

New King Of The Guest Book

Name: I.M. Betterdenue

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 15:31:05


I've been lurking around here for an hour. I've never posted until now. I just want to tell you that although this seems like a cool site, only, you got it all wrong!!!!!!! This site shouldn't be about Steely Dan. It should be about The Archies. I mean, you people don't know shit about nothin if your not talking about the 'Arch. I think right now, you should all stop talking about Steely Jan, and discuss real music.
I know, 'cause I just got here and I'm better than all of you. My opinion carries more weight, and I have many more insights. Newbies rule!!!!! Old people suck!!!!!!!! This is now my guest book! I claim it in the name of the Archies!! No one shall remove me from power, and no one shall post about anything other than Archie, Veronica, Jughead, Betty, and the rest of the gang at Filmore High.

King Of The Guest Book

Name: Wrong Guestbook

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 12:06:50

Hey Moody Asshole,
check the archives buddy

Name: This Moody Bastard

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 11:17:32

Wrong Guestbook - you have never EVER said anything about Steely Dan so shut the fuck up!

Clinging Buddha - if you don't like it, then leave

Clas - Talk about boring, I think you've topped the boring list so far. I think Pompe is calling you from the bedroom - you better run to him.

Name: Wrong Guestbook

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 10:24:43

Buddha-- Very well said.

Name: Clining_Buddha (Don'tRubMyBelly!)
Location: Chicago, Il. U.S.
Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 10:09:34

Great site!! But DAMN!!! What is with all these dumb assed posts that have absolutely nothing to do with the (alleged) common love we all have for this band! People should stop using this as a personals site and a sounding board and talk about the real issue at hand! I am probably one of the younger fans of Steely Dan..27 years old. I remember my mom playing the albums when I was VERY young and I have always loved them and remained a faithful fan even of Donald Fagen's solo albums. I want to thank you for creating this seems that so many people are sleep on Steely Dan..why is that? The band seems to have a cult following..I'll never unerstand that. But, regardless, thank you so much! It's about time someone recognized a GOOD BAND!

Name: Clining_Buddha (Don'tRubMyBelly!)
Location: Chicago, Il. U.S.
Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 09:57:20

Great site!! But DAMN!!! What is with all these dumb assed posts that have absolutely nothing to do with the (alleged) common love we all have for this band! People should stop using this as a personals site and a sounding board and talk about the real issue at hand! I am probably one of the younger fans of Steely Dan..27 years old. I remember my mom playing the albums when I was VERY young and I have always loved them and remained a faithful fan even of Donald Fagen's solo albums. I want to thank you for creating this seems that so many people are sleep on Steely Dan..why is that? The band seems to have a cult following..I'll never unerstand that. But, regardless, thank you so much! It's about time someone recognized a GOOD BAND!

Name: BS

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 09:39:04

Clas - nice pick! Early 70ies BS&T and Chicago are extremly underrated. But Slam Creepers? It“s saturday! I go for Science Poption!

Name: OMIO

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 08:59:41

Kinky: Thanks. Too Easy, Much Too Easy..
GK: New Riders have been having some serious problems over the years.. Sorry to say, but Marmaduke has been on the Pigpen Diet way too long. Very talented guy, but a lot of water has gone under the bridge. I've known his brother over 30 years.. Sad.
Opening Bands: Saw the Portland show of the Art Crimes tour. Honestly, Steely Dan can carry the whole night without any other band. I left both amazed at the show, & thinking of how many songs they didn't have time to play. If this really is their last time out, I'd like to get every minute I can hearing 'em..

Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 08:32:48

Edd....I used the wiring circuit you mentioned several years ago before surround sound was very popular. It was a suggested circuit for a Carver receiver 2000 that I still have. It was interesting and different but not something I'd choose to listen to on a regular basis. By wiring this way aren't you lowering the impedence of the rear channel speakers? Wiring in series seems it would overload the amp for the rear channels. This may or may not cause a problem depending on the design of the amplifier. At the least I'd think it would run quite a bit hotter than normal and at the most it might take out the output on that amp. Also, did you ever play around with any of the delay systems that were popular in the late 70's - early 80's? I heard a couple of MacIntosh amps with some ADS speakers and an outboard delay that I can't remember who manufactured back then that had the most realistic 3-D sound I've ever heard. It really was like sitting in the middle of the soundfield as opposed to just hearing it on a flat canvas.

foxinsocks....did you make it to the live Todd chat thing last night? We ended up crashing early so I missed it. Hope you got to speak with him!

Name: jj

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 07:43:43


Name: Can that be

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 07:03:52

on a Marantz-amp from early seventies?

Name: Clas @ work

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 07:01:29

Boring shit you come up with GK,

what about Jackson Browne, Paul Carrack, Joni Mitchell, Rickie Lee Jones, Jay Graydon with Bill Champlin, Bruce Hornsby, Chicago (1973 with Terry Kath), Bood Sweat & Tears (1973) and Danny de Vito?

And Traffic and Slamcreepers, International Harvester (sleep well rose-marie) and Christopher Cross.

Name: Edd

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 06:55:48

It's possible to achieve a pseudo-"3rd channel" from stereo by wiring the 2 rear speakers in a Hafler circuit...

Disconnect the - side of each speaker from the receiver and then connect the - side of each speaker together so your circuit looks like this...

rcvr(left)+ >spkr(left)+ spkr(left)- >spkr(right)- spkr(right)+ > rcvr(right)+

This allows the rear speakers to play only what is DIFFERENT between the left and right sides.

Name: GK John
Coming up for @ir

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 06:51:22

Herm- A wonderful concept! But I'm saddened by the bands I can't use! No Harry Chapin. No Jim Croce. Beatles- No John Lennon. Little Feat- No Lowell George. Marshall Tucker Band- No Caldwell brothers. Grateful Dead- No Jerry Garcia. Lynyrd Skynyrd- No Ronnie Van Zant. Allman Brothers- (Need I go on?) :-(

The Steely Damned: Are these guys REALLY that good?
The Good Rats: Been watching Pepe & the boys a loooong time.

Main Events-
Jackson Browne: Gotta get stoned first & watch Lindley play.
Outlaws: Oughta be fun seeing Thomasson & Paul duke it out again.
The Kinks: Just because.
Jimmy Buffett: Don't make fun- My kids love this guy.
Blood Sweat & Tears: Because they make me so very happy.
The Band: No need to justify this one.
Charlie Daniels: One more before he goes too!
Bob Seegar: Toss up between him and Runt. (Sorry Todd!)
The New Riders: Even without Jerry.

The Jazz Crusaders & the Dan together on stage for a 3 hour jazz jam unveiling the new 2AN & the Crusaders reunion album.

I'm so dizzy I can't think anymore. Gotta go lay down now... Too much excitement throws off my metabolism.

Witchy- You out dere, cher?

Geena- Ciao Cara

Name: jokeR
almost friday

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 06:19:32

i specifically remember achieving somewhat quad sound in college with my Nightfly cassette playing in my roomate's stereo system, wired with 2 rear spkrs, center channel, the whole spiel:

I thought it would sound okay, then i turned down the front speakers during IGY and could hear wonderful voice separation, only the backup vox were warblin away on the rears -- all that from a cassette? I'm definitely NO stereo techie, it must have been the receiver or EQ, right? I've tried to duplicate the feat on other systems since, to no avail.....

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 05:51:39

Sorry Henry, it was DTS 5.2

Name: John Henry
records galore

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 05:48:24

I read that the Gaucho release in DTS 5.1 "surround sound" was re-mixed by the boys themseleves with Elliott Scheiner about a year ago.

Name: Clas
@ work, pulse: 56 bpm

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 05:07:25

Oh Michael - what do you mean? Is 85 for a Grand Danois too fast?

Name: Oh Michael
Oh Jeseus

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 04:53:42

Hey Clas, It looks like your dog is going to be joining your cat very soon. Hopefully your not to far behind!

Name: Edd

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 03:32:58


Since "Gaucho" was mixed for stereo ("2.0") I would suspect any 5.1 release of the album would be "simulated". Can some one confirm one way or the other?

I look forward to the day when the consumer can take some control of the final mix. I'd love to be able to put the horn section behind me, or maybe move the drummer back a few feet and to the left...

Name: Edd

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 03:25:55

5.1 *is* (sort of) the "quad for the 90s".

It refers to the speaker configuration used in home theater systems. LF, C, RF, LR, RR (the "5"), and a seperate sub (the ".1")

Name: Clas
@ the sternum of the matter

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 01:42:09

I can now see with my eyes wideopen that I have been a very selfcentered man. I did go on with my Sternum Agony without any thoughts of any other human beings on this earth. Just by chance I came across this site, heartdiseases in great Dan's:

"What is Heart Disease in Dogs?
Heart disease in dogs, as in people, can be either present at birth or acquired, often developing during middle age. Acquired heart disease is more common, affecting many older dogs.

Are there different types of heart disease in dogs?
Yes, there are two common types of heart disease in dogs:

2. In one type, a dog's heart valves lose their ability to close properly, causing abnormal blood flow.

1.In the other type, the muscular walls of a dog's heart become thinned and weakened.

Both types develop gradually over time and result in the same serious condition called heart failure."

Pompe, I shall guard you and your heart! (his pulse is 85 bpm, I think that's pretty normal, but I'll think I check with a couple of vets)

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 01:23:18

Bob tedde - "Call me at The Rockola 24hr."

It's the Hotline (619) 558-1966. But don't play any Hornsby stuff in the background while talking to the machine.

Hey: I HAVE left. It's all in your mind.

Witheld: try a MBD-device when listening to ATM (Adobe Tape Manager), DDT, ASAP, LOL or IMHO.

Got to go and see if I find any Dane-poetry today. I'll be right back.

Name: Big Fan

Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 at 00:32:31

A most pleasant surprise was waiting for me in the mail tonight. After almost one year to the day that I ordered it, the weasels who move beneath the earth sent me "Tour Rehearsal '76" A thourghly terrible CD with 9 tracks that are unlistenable to by the coverband Beau Bolero. It does have the Gaucho outake of "The Second Arrangement" on it though, which makes it worthwhile.

Bob T - having listened to this a couple of times now, I think you guys did an even better job on this song - BTW how much are round trip tickets to San Diego this time of year?

Name: bob tedde

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 21:11:21

Ok where was I, oh yeah,

THE STEELY DAMNED are performing at The Catamaran (in the Cannibal Bar) on Saturday, February 27th. This will be our first full 4 1/2 hour show since October of '98. We will start at 9PM and play until 1:30am. If you are traveling a great distance to see us, which seems to be a nice little trend of late, contact me as soon as you can and I will try and reserve a spot on the guestlist for you. Call me at The Rockola 24hr. Hotline (619) 558-1966 (just ask Clas) as well as Our new and almost exciting website:


PS: Our first chair keyboardist will be ex-Zappa alumnist Mike Keneally. Our Bassist for the evening will be Brian Beller from Mike's band Beer For Dolphins. "The way I see it, Barry, this should be a really dynamite show"

Name: Peter North
Where the hell am I?

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 19:40:35

Zeke: You are speakin' my language, brutha. I'm on my way. Take cover Big Easy, Peter's gonna pop his cork!!!!

Name: Original Lester

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 19:36:24

By the way, I seriously doubt The Nightfly was a DDD. While Gabriel's Security has fabulous DDD sound, it is a phenomenal album regardless of the equipment- easily his best work. All of you should give it about ten listens, and then you'll understand. A few of the songs were borrowed for the score of Birdy w/ Nicholas Cage and Matthew Modine. Incidentally, I'm not complaining about the quality of The Nightfly. After all, it was named after me.

Katy- Thanks for the invite on stage. I'd be thrilled to play with the band, but if I'm on stage with Carlton, Zingg, Khan, Dias, or Baxter, please unplug my amp.

Name: Bob Tedde
Location: Sd, CA
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 18:49:13

Since there seems to be some audiophile talk going on lately, I saw a copy of Gaucho made for some kind of home theatre system ( or something like that) Anyways, the sales idiot only knew how to say, "it's like Quadrophonic for the nineties", as though he was even old enough to remember Quad from the seventies. So.......any home theatre people wanna clue me in. It sounds mucho interesante. Edd, you must know something about this.

damn, gotta run

Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch crt

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 17:32:40

Edd: Whoa! The Brubeck boys with Larry Coryell? Yeah, that would be awesome!

OMIO: ditto on the Robben! He's a must see act. I see him every time he swings through the midwest! His discography is unmatched!

Zeke: Are you saying that ALL of the motel rooms in the metropolitan area will be sold out during the NO JazzFest? Do you have any suggestions as to where the NO Danfests (weekend 1 and weekend 2) should be?

Name: Kinky
Korrecting Kops

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 17:16:35

Correction Cop - It also helps to spell correctly when "critisizing" another's spelling.

Name: les

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 17:14:55

What kind of music do u y'all play here?
"Oh we have both kinds, Country and Western!"

Name: OMIO

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 16:28:02

Thanks Correction Cop... You Bit... It's this Predictability that makes it so much fun... And illustrate the point so well... If you keep looking, you'll find more, too! It's a joke, CC, OK?..
Some Kids Just Drive Too Fast...

Name: foxinsocks
i remember thinking i'll go forever only knowing i'll see you again

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 16:17:07

Heylo all =-)
As you might have guessed, if you even gave a fleeting thought to it, I'm living and breathing til the live Rundgren chat tonight. I'm sitting here pondering, as one is prone to do while stoned on headache medications (migraines strike again), what do you say to a man whose music has been pumped in your system and been your inspiration ALL YOUR LIFE??? Should I tell him that when I was 3 and 4 years old, I really thought that he was my Grandfather? How do I tell my hero what an influence he's been on me? How do I explain to him that in the fifth grade, when I was having a fight with a friend, I made peace by copying down the lyrics to Love Myself and gave them to him as a peace offering? *sigh* I'm just scared I'm going to get in the presence of greatness and lock up. Keep me in mind, I really am nervous. Maybe it's this damn Lortab. I don't know.

May good vibes and great Jams follow you always ~
Fox =^..^=

Name: TheStranger
but i don't smoke afterward

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 14:01:50

casserole was superb, but next time more garlic. the wine was a triumph -- eminently suitable -- perky yet not reaching, sultry yet not lascivious, demanding yet not not overambitious. in short, it got me laid.

Name: Correction Cop
Just take it like a man

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 12:34:05

OMIO: Thanks for the insight. It does help when there's something to talk about. It also helps when you spell the names of your bands correctly.
Robben Ford.

One shouldn't critisize when one has noticeable faults of his own.

Name: OMIO

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 11:25:16

Opening acts:
QS 2000
Robin Ford
Medeski, Martin & Wood
If you're concerned about how petty some of the posts have gotten, don't be... Every other list goes through it's Ups & Downs...
Especially those with a well established cast of characters...
I've lurked here over a year...
This one is better than most, & still hasn't reached the Depths that some others have... It helps when there's actually something to talk about...

Name: DrMu
consumer tip

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 10:54:17

Big Fan: Nice site saw nice explanation of a caveat in buying "remastered" CDs from old analog performances. Tip for we CD buyers.

"Since CDs are digital, then by definition the master tape from which the CD is made must be digital as well. Therefore, all recordings that were originally analog, are
re-mastered to digital for the CD medium. Be aware that the phrase "digitally remastered from the original analog tape" means nothing more than a necessary step was followed in getting the music into the digital domain and ready for encoding on the
CD. Most people thought this meant that the recording was remixed/edited digitally as well, but that is not what this means."

Prof. Edd: Leanred something new there...I'm tring to picture a swinging lathe.

Name: Edd

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 10:34:02

Correct. The "direct to disk" recordings you mention have nothing to do with digital recording. (Although it is possible to continue the concept today by simply recording direct to a digital medium.)
Portable lathes weren't unheard of but the whole process, while able to capture a performance in all its spontaneous glory, was a pain in the tuckus. No overdubs, no punches, no remixing. Nothing. Levels had to be carefully monitored or the lathe would swing too far and trash adjacent grooves.
The advantage was the elimination of all "unnecessary" electronics between the performance and record. No tape noise, etc.
My favorite D2D is by The Brubeck brothers (Chris and Darius, Dave's kids) and Larry Coryell.

Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch vinyl collection

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 10:25:56

Edd/DrMu: so I guess my Barry Miles LP which was recorded "direct to disc" in November 1977 for which they used a portable lathe to cut the master while recording live has absolutely nothing to do with digital? How widespread was the use of a portable lathe?

Name: Trevor

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 10:00:57

Home- That was Gary Coleman doing the solo on Third World Man at Saratoga. He looks sixteen but I think he's in his mid- thirty's or something like that.

Name: Big Fan

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 10:00:47

A little known fact is that SD opened for Frank Zappa in the early 70’s, and on one night in Lincoln, Nebraska they played Bodhisattva twice in the same set.

I’ve always liked Zappa and on of my favorite quotes of his is:

You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. - Frank Zappa

aja -ing - it was Gwen Guthrie, 42. See my previous post from yesterday for the link from the LA Times.

Geena - email me and I will satisfy your curiosity.

Edd: You are absolutely right. An excellent discourse on the subject can be found at:

Name: witheld

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 08:58:11

I am an adult who suffers with ADD so even when I do listen to a DDD recording, I percieve the initial recording source as analog. (unless of course I have just taken a Ritalin, in which case i hear the source as digital, but the tempo is too damn SLOW!) The whole thing is mildly annoying at first, but eventually, (about 40 seconds in) I suddenly remember I need to file my taxes (for '95) and move on to something else.

My sister is dislexic. she has had the unique experience of hearing recordings that are DDA, ADA, and my fav, DAD, the latter having freudian over tones. She is, of course, a major Dealy Stan Fan.

Name: DrMu
writing notes

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 07:58:26

Edd: That's a clear explanation. I was refering to the studio master, but I did get thrown by Big Fan's question, which was a good one. So, that means that Ry Cooder's 1978 album wass DDD, then the consumer medium was vinyl. Thanks.

Name: Zeke
"When you go to neworleeens, make sure you go to Mardi Gras

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 07:48:30

Doc/Ole/Clas/everyone interested in JF99/ It truley is time to piss or get off the pot concerning Jazz Fess. Hotel rooms are going fast. The line-up is out, kinda weak if you ask me, but it's about having a good time more than the music. For everyone who will attend, I hope we can make plans to meet.

Now, for me, IT'S MARDI GRAS TIME!!!. Time to freakin' blow it out until Ash Wednesday!! I'll be outta here untill then. If you find yourself on St. Charles St. just before Napoleon St. and you hear the Dan CRANKED, it's me.


Name: Edd

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 07:24:05

"3rd D = medium"

The third D refers to digital recording of the studio master. If that's what you refer to, you are correct.

I interpreted your post as the 3rd D being the medium the music is delivered to consumers on, which would be incorrect.

SPARS coding does not address the final way the music is delivered to the consumer. A fully digital (DDD) master tape could be used to make mothers and stampers for vinyl production.

Name: DrMu
quibbles & bits

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 07:02:07

Edd: Thanks...but re-check the post: "3rdD = medium"

Schwinn: Interesting story...I can't find andy credit or thanks to Chet Himes on the album. Maybe they didn't use the loops?

Name: jOker
i heard a sound that just about removed me from my filly's saddle

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 06:32:25

warmup bands? I'll choose CLUTCH, who burned thru their set last night in Chapel Hill -- very intense, but lasted only an hour! Anyone who listens to them can understand Neil's voice can't take too much of that kind of singing for too long.....

i can see CLUTCH starting rough & loud, then having to play some slower stuff [Green Buckets comes to mind} at the end to get the crowd at the right level for the Dan: then the guys would have to jack up the first few songs for a smooth segue.......folks would still be in mosh mode, i fear

happy mosh pitting!

Name: Home
Location: MTL, WayUpThere
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 06:07:12

Wow !!!

Great stuff the past couple of days...

Maxine : romantic ? no contest :

Well the danger on the rocks is surely past
Still I remain tied to the mast
Could it be that I have found my home at last
Home at last

Katy : count me in. One addition...the show has to be at The Spectrum (Donald K Donald...are you listening, you jerk?)

All...does anyone know who played the Third world man solo in Saratoga ? (looked like a 16 year-old kid, for christ's sake ; but sounded like he had played those licks all his life)

Also, on a personnal note :
someone mentionned Steve Gadd the other day, and it brought back a couple of memories. Saw him in MTL last summer ; he's a very cool dude. Came out after the show, talked with a few of us junkies, signed all kinds of stuff (one guy had his snare skin autographed....tres cool).

"Which show?", you ask?
Playing with Michel Petrucciani....God bless his little soul.


Name: JosieDanFan
after the sun rise...

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 05:40:15

Clas: That's so sad...Being an ex dog owner ( by default, not choice) I can feel your pain..

Some great band choices, I can;t believe I forgot Dave Matthews Band!!! I replace Michael Franks with Dave..sorry Michael.

See ya!

Name: Hey
Iggy and Clas

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 03:50:01


LMAO at the Lonnie post!!!

Clas! Baby!


Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 03:48:06

I mean, look at this; " shut him up they used a stick...".

A stick.

I don't know about you folks, but I wonder what this world is coming to.

Name: Clas
Enough of DDD now for a while, okay?

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 03:43:58

I stumbled over this great Great Dane poetry, and I just can't help it, this is so touching so I wanne share it with the rest of you guys:

A Tortured Soul

by Rosalie Strawcutter

I heard a story about a dane
He lived a life of awful pain
left outdooors in sun and rain
and I cried...

He was bought for his great size
to keep the local hoodlums wise
Then they tied him up outside
and I cried...

He started barking quite a bit
to shut him up they used a stick
then open sores had made him sick
and I cried...

They left him out there on his own
had a cut that showed a bone
he tended his wounds all alone
and I cried...

One day when he was really thin
they thought the dog would cash it in
they bred him to a dane named Lynn
and I cried...

It seemed the dog had stopped trying
it's just too bad that dad is dying
soon he left with no one crying
and I cried...

They got a pick puppy from the spouse
it was filled with ticks and a louse
and then it pottied in the house
and I cried...

Outside he went to daddy's spot
to live alone and be forgot
at first he romped and played a lot
and I cried...

He then got bored and barked a bit
to shut him up they used a stick
then open sores had made him sick
and I cried...

I'm self an owner (snyft) of a Great Dan (his name is Pompe) so I can... I can UNDERSTAND the PAIN (snyft).

Name: Edd

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 03:21:33

re: Doc Mu

Your description of the SPARS code is a tad off in that it never refers to the final consumer medium...

DDD=Digital tape recorder used during session recording, mixing and/or editing, and mastering (transcription).

ADD=Analog tape recorder used during session recording; digital tape recorder used during subsequent mixing and/or editing, and mastering (transcription).

AAD=Analog tape recorder used during session recording and subsequent mixing and/or editing; digital tape recorder used during mastering (transcription).

DDD vinyl is entirely possible.

Name: Michael C. Packard
Location: Warm & humid morning in the Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 03:15:24

Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!

Interesting about the band choices. Here are mine:

Opening set performed by George Benson

2nd set performed by Phoebe Snow

3rd set performed by The Crusaders

4th set performed by Blood, Sweat, & Tears (with David Clayton Thomas)

5th set performed by Steely Dan

Have a GREAT day, y'all!!!



; )

P.S.: KatyDanFan & all, yeah when DO we start rehearsing??

Name: Benjamin J. Edwards
Location: Ruston, LA USA
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 03:04:57

Green earrings,
I remember...
Those rings of rare design.
I remember....

Greatest Concert Lineup Ever:

(opening act)/Steely Dan

(interlude)/ The Jefferson Airplane(1968 membership)

(followed by)/ Jethro Tull

(wrapped up with) Led Zepplin

Dan always warms me up. It sings through me and can get me ready for any activity. Airplane of course would bridge the very difficult sea between the stylings of Dan and the messages of Jethro Tull, and Jethro Tull would get everything sufficiently spun up, to be beat over and over by cuts from Zepplin 2 and Zepplin 3 especially, and blues overtones throughout the Zepplin performance. Best concert ever, and essentially me musical tastes in a nutshell.

Name: Original Lester
Dreaming of my Own Green World

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 00:51:34

Maxine: "When all my dime dancing is through, I run to you" is a favorite of mine, but it does sort of imply that one is taking their partner for granted. How about a valentine that says, "you must know it's right, this spore is on the wind tonight"? Hmmmm, probably not. Or "slow down, I'll tell you when- I may never walk again?"

Okay, now I'll set the parameters for my dream concert festival:

Any band I want in any order I want, under any condition I want.

1.Midnight Oil will open. They put on the best concert I ever saw back in '90, and they would surely get the juices flowing. There would be a potential problem of creating an anticlimactic festival, but not really when you consider the bands that follow.

2.Dave Matthews Band. Just saw 'em in October. I doubt there are many better acts out there today.

3.Roxy Music or Bryan Ferry with a good backup band, singing mostly Roxy songs. I hope I am not the only person on this GB who understands how great Roxy Music was.

4.Neil Young, playing mostly 70's material, esp. deep cuts from Tonight's the Night and After the Gold Rush.

5.Bob Dylan, playing however long he wants to, hopefully playing It's Alright Ma.

6.Led Zeppelin. (No, Bonham is not replaceable- just listen to Physical Graffiti). They would be sure to play cuts off of In Through the Out Door which I've never heard any live versions of.

7.The devotees of this website. Much to Don and Walt's initial chagrin, they would have to tolerate having Baxter and Dias playing on the early material, giving way to Larry Carlton and Steve Khan on the later stuff. They would play for 5 hours, and they'd LIKE IT!!! (they still owe us that after their 20-year layoff) McDonald would also be there, yes he'd be there. And yes, Jerome Aniton would introduce them.

8.The Beatles. How? A flying saucer will land to drop John off for the show, Rickenbacker in hand. John will explain that he has lived in hiding so that he would never have to hear Yoko's "Kiss Kiss Kiss" again. The crowd will not buy it, and will start to boo and jeer Lennon until he breaks into Imagine- which makes everyone cry and forgive him. Then the Beatles proceed to kick ass, all nuclear weapons and technology are destroyed, Saddam Hussein steps down, and the New York Giants win 20 Super Bowls in a row. In spite of all this, the Republicans will still be looking for ways to ruin Bill Clinton, even after he leaves office.

Clas: Is your departure more like the Jordan retirement Peter North was referring to? Or how about Hollywood Hogan? Don't play with our affections. You have to make up your mind now.

Name: Clas
@ work (paying 99.999999% in taxes, god damm, I hate communism)

Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 at 00:30:31

Willie - is there anyone home or is it just the light that's on?

Doc Kelly - I'd love to see Santana, and I'll be there both weekends. Let's meet!

BRE - too late.

the Stranger - keep it for a rainy day.

I noticed that "The Smooth Family Of Slidell" is playing on the jazzfest... hmmm, makes me wonder.

And Little Feat!


Name: TheStranger
drive to the coast and drive right back again

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 23:13:34

clas is entertaining, as is kinky. face it, these boys have wit. treasure them. they may be the only entertaining scandanavian and psycopath in the western world and we get them for free (aside from payments to our internet providers).

katy dan fan,
i am awed by your ability to recall personality traits of so many faceless guestbookers. how the hell do you do it? do you like people or something?

thanks, but no need. my wolf packers have cell phone chips stuck in their teeth so i guess the deed is done.

big fan,
when one of his maniac soldiers massacred a group of israeli schoolgirls, king hussein visited each and every one of the bereaved families to apologize. this sent a powerful message. he had his faults, but he was a good man. may he rest in peace.

Name: JosieDanFan
just one quick thing...

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 23:11:15

Sociable Hermit: HERM!!! Missed ya man, glad too see you back! Ya know even though you didn't post in here, doesn't mean you can't e-mail me back. hehe, just razzin' you. Here are my summer festival pics...

Opening acts:
Squirrel Nuts Zippers
Manhattan Transfer
Michael Franks
Harry Connick Jr.

(of course...) Steely Dan

Alternate Opening Acts:
Barenaked Ladies
Natalie Cole(the "cover" years)
Sheryl Crow

Alternate Headliners:
None. If I can't see them, I'll pout...
Needless to say this would be much different if I could revive the dead.


Name: aja - ing
Location: Cayukaville, upstate ny
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 22:22:09

dandom land:
Just had to post with bad news of former dan back up singer
just heard tail end of announcement passing of
age 42 female/ what angelic voice did we lose?

Name: Schwinn

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 21:36:56

Dr. Mu: It was I who relayed a story told to me by Cristopher Cross's engineer, Chet Himes, that at least some of the Nightfly's percussion was recorded with analog equipment. Chet told me he was hired by Nichols to do some tape "looping" of some reels that had been fedexed to Porcaro. (Could these be the "additional" drums on I.G.Y.?) Mr. Himes is adamant about this and I have no reason to doubt him. It's plausible that the Nightfly was mastered to a digital deck from both analog and digital sources. Whatever, when I first played the vinyl as a DJ in 1982 the sonic quality was striking. I know for many years the Nightfly was considered the digital "standard" among pop music producers.

KatyDanFan: Nice concept. When do we rehearse?


Name: Razor Boy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 20:52:05

Katy Dan Fan - Third World Man has beautifully haunting guitar work in it, the kind that takes me into the song itself, like I'm lured to where it's all taking place - And that is the beauty of Steely Dan. The unfortunate part about the albums I have of band, "Gaucho was the only one to come with liner notes, including lyrics and a line up of musicians. So I can only guess when Larry Carleton started working with Fagen and Becker. Perhaps someone can enlighten us.. Hurry up June 8/99.

Name: . .. ... ....
..... ...... ....... ........
Location: .........,
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 19:52:50

Maxine: You know that. "You'll be my seńorita in jeans and pearls."

Name: maj©

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 19:12:32

Ole: first order of business....isolate the donald lyrics from the walter lyrics for a list of songs penned by each, aside from solo stuff.

i'm working on other fronts and will report soon when the troops are needed.

herm: the seven bands idea is tasty. im gonna give it a try.


Name: Iggy

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 19:09:06


I had to run out to the store for a bit. Please do your homework and run the sweeper in the playroom before you go out.


Name: Maxine

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 19:06:54

The card is bought, the cake is baked, the frosting is ready...
...but what to write?

Valentine's Day is almost here, what is the MOST ROMANTIC Steely Dan lyric of all time?

(I'm working with a deadline here!)

NOTE: this should have been part of the last post but the gremlins ate it up. Sorry!

Name: Maxine

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 19:05:42

>>> HELP! >> HELP! <<<

Name: Geena

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 18:53:24

Question: What is a DDD? and is it contagious? No seriously, I would really like to know.

DennyFan: let's talk about Steely Dan, would you mind opening up the discussion? Some have reported that Denny was great and others have trashed his performance, what are your views?

TheKatyDanFan: MCSE

Stranger: I am a certified wolf trainer, and my boys are bad. Let me know if you'd like to borrow a pack or two. Have your girl call mine. Also don't ever deprive yourself again of sleep, food, drink or personal comforts for the sake of writing a goodbye note. You see, it wasn't worth it now, was it? Sending a casserole packed in dry ice and a fine bottle of red via Fed Ex.

Big Fan: Now you have me curious as to why you didn't post your views on the Dias show. I live 30 minutes away from where he played, but didn't get the chance to go.

oleander: I missed you too woman! Nice take on the E.O.E, LOL!

Peter North: No thanks, I'd rather not, just don't fall down and crack your skull when you stand like that ok?

GK Giovanni: Sono molto contende che hai ritornato. Anche io sono stato zitto per il stesso motivo. Adesso cominciamo le feste! Mille Bacione! It's good to see you too! Forgive my poorly written language, I've only attended prima media. Funny, my lit teacher was named Mr. Whitehead and he also taught us the fine art of "rolling" of which I improved on his method and then taught him back for future classes.

Sociable Hermit: It's good to see you again.

On the way home tonight, I heard the NYR&SR version of Chain Lightening. It was never one of my favorite songs, but this rocked!

Must go, have droopy eyelid syndrome.......

Name: DrMu
I dig it

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 18:38:46

Doc Kelly: The Nightfly was evidently recorded on one of the first 3M digital studio recorders. As a joke, you might remember, Walter wrote a letter attempting to "donate" the 3M device as an historical icon to the Rock and Roll HOF: a *wink* reminder that SD was eligible for induction in 1997. Plus, the liner notes do reference Roger "The Immortal" Nichols' use of this watershed technology: "Recorded and mixed entirely on 3M digital 32 track and 4-track machines." Someone on the GB last year claimed that Donald Fagen had an analog master stashed away, but that seems far-fetched.

Name: TheKatyDanFan
" in my reservation..."

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 18:00:05

Herm: Always great to read your posts. Your heart is in a good place, imho :) As far as the band line-up for the summer festival, here's my fantasy:

A Totally SteelyDan Concert, to include:

Intro to STEELY DAN by BigFan, Dr.Mu and Edd, with a little help from the guy who introduced them in Santa Monica
SteelyDan, 1st set

Break, with an intro to Caves by Herm and DTMA by LTNF
Steely Dan, 2nd set

O Michael's introduction of all the Babylon Sisters, which will take awhile because there are so many of us and so much to say about each of us---Oleander, Geena, Ruby, Rose Darling, Josie, Bodacious Cowgirl, JustKaty---and because during this time we have to keep throwing Peter North off the stage! (Babylon Sisters may remain on stage to dance/play tambourine/sing back-up to Hey Nineteen, My Old School, Parker's Band, IGY and Josie) While Oleander is on stage, Don and Walt make reference to the lyric site, saying, "Right on!"
SteelyDan, 3rd set (see above)

Break, with an intro of all the band members who ever played with Don and Walt, during which time they also agree to answer the burning questions of this GB, such as, who can read music--Don, Walt, both, or neither?
SteelyDan, closing set*** (Home at Last introduced by Home)

Other important happenings of the night:

Stranger, Mitch and Midnite Cruiser will be standing by the opening to the tent for all of us to sign in.
Various musicians among us, such as Original Lester and others who actually can play the music (to a greater or lesser degree) will get a chance to sit in on the song of their choice.
Clas will sign a contract with SD for a concert in Sweden, with Pompe and Circumstance to play as SD enters the stage area.
RazorBoy will sign a contract for an SD tour in Canada, the national anthem to be temporarily changed to Oh Steely Dan.
Both Jon and Rose will get to shake hands with DennyDias if they so choose.
GK John and WitchQueen will miss the whole thing. There happens to be a swamp nearby...(three dots)
Fezo brings a supply of...well, fezos, to those who are so moved that they need protection during the concert. This does not include El Supremo and Katy; El Supremo and Schwinn are manning the sound system, and Katy's hoping to play the piano in Charlie Freak.
TNP and Kinky are tied to some trees early in the evening so as not to disturb the rest of us. They are turned loose during the last set when, after thinking it over, we decide to practice what we preach sometimes, which is kindness to our fellow DanFans.
911 is nearby, as always, for emergencies, which surprisingly, are kept at a minimum.

***At the end of the night, Don and Walt say "We'd like to take this golden opportunity to say......DAMN!! WHAT A NIGHT!!

...And there followed in the GB, peace and tranquility for one whole day!! Then it was business as usual.

Just Katy :)

Name: Q

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 17:48:52

Jon@stripe !! give me a buzz !!

Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch listening room

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 16:53:56

DrMu: Do you reckon that some may be confusing Donald's use of digital percussion on Nightfly with digital recording technology?

Name: DrMu
come to D/A D/A

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 16:21:27

Big Fan: You raise an excellent point since use of digital recording preceded use of commercial digital playback machines (CD players). Philips and then Sony did not sell CD players commercially until 1983? If that's true then The Nightfly (1982), Security (1982), and Bop 'Til You Drop (1978) would have been DDA releases initially on vinyl, whereL 1st D = recording equipment; 2nd D = mastering process; and 3rd D = medium. They were also some of the first mastered Edd or aother recording artist can check my understanding here.

Name: Dinah

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 16:20:41


Name: Sociable Hermit
Promoting Music, And Better Dental Hygene

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 15:49:49


Thinking about a summer concert got the wheels spinning, so, let's have some fun. I want to know what your fantasy summer festival would be. Music from noon to 11pm, gorgeous weather, perfect accoustics, a beer tent with no curfew...but more important, the music.
You get to slot seven bands - five opening acts with about an hour stage time each, and two headliners with about two hours each. You may reunite extint bands for this show, but there is one catch: all of the irreplaceable members must currently be alive. Jerry Garcia cannot be replaces, but, theoretically, John Bonham can, so no Dead, but yes to Zep. People cannot be brought back from the grave.
Now, give me your bands, along with the order. Here's mine:

Voice Of The Beehive
The Stone Roses (their reunion tour)
Elvis Costello (with the Attractions, and no one else!)
Todd Rundgren (1st headliner)
Steely Dan (Closing the show)


Hey, look! The following week has a festival, too!

Matthew Sweet
B.B. King
Robin Trower (with James Dewer on bass and vocals)
Sting (1st headliner - w/Larry Carlton on guitar)
Steve Winwood (solo material, then joined at the end by a Traffic reunion)

I showed you mine, now show me yours.


Name: Just

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 15:21:42

I knew a Steely Fran in high school? Could this be you? Please respond with picture.

Name: Big Fan

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 15:14:48

Since there is no new SD info….

Dr. Mu, et al Your comments about the first DDD CD's perked my interest. Of course the first DDD CD's had to come from Europe and most likely from Philips themselves. My recollection is that one of the first DDD CD's was John Williams & The Boston Pops "Out of This World" on Phillips and made in what was then West Germany and released in 1983, along with several other full orchestra releases by them. Telarc had a whole catalog of DDD CD's only that they issued made in Japan, including the one most salesmen used to sell stereos then was Time Warp by the Cincinnati Pops - but I believe this came out in 1984. It had a peculiar warning on it about how the wide dynamic range would put an extraordinary challenge on any stereo system - damage could result to speakers or other components if the music is played at excessively high levels - I'm sure none of you have done this.

Now my question is, The Nightfly came out before CD's were really popular and I know I bought it as an album several years before I bought my first CD player, and I don't remember it being DDD.

Info: In terms of President Hussein, maybe my memory is failing, but as I remember, Jordan did not exactly remain neutral. They refused US and Israeli planes to violate their air space (and Iraqi also, not that they had any left), but allowed the SCUD missiles from Iraq to fly over at night (not that they could have stopped them) but also made no statements to Iraq to stop using their air space for that effort, and sounding a little stupid about not knowing where or how the missiles were getting to Israel. They also would not let the US put up anti SCUD missiles in Jordan which would have given them more time before detonation to shoot them down. A minor point, and truth be told they were certainly caught between the proverbial "rock and a hard place" in that conflict, through no fault of their own.

The LA time reported yesterday that Gwen Guthrie, 42, passed away. They stated that she did backup work for SD, but I can't seem to locate where or on what. The link is:

I did remember today why I didn't post my thoughts on my trip to Plymouth to see Denny Dias here.

Name: BRE
911 recycling emergency

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 14:58:14

Clas: Don't tell me we're too late and the piles have already crumbled. It's ok, don't panic. I refuse to let Pompe's shit go to waste. I'll just need a little time to think. Don't sweep it under the carpet just yet...

Name: Willie

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 13:09:49

Stranger- Clas saw how EVERYBODY was beging Genna to come back when she said she was leaving. He just wants the same attention. Don't fall into his trap. The guy's a moron.

Name: TheStranger

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 12:08:09

i stayed up days and nights, forsaking food and personal comforts in order to write you a fitting farwewll, and now after you say goodbye you're posting more than you usually do so i had to trash the epilogue. which is ok. i guess sweden's a free country. actually, i left here long ago anyway. my vice president in charge of internet correspondence has complete freedom to write all my posts.

does this guy hyde need a personal trainer or what?

Name: An Ordinary Guy
Biscayne Bay

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 10:35:11

Hi there DanFans! Not long ago there was some exciting chat re: an impromtu DanFest at the New Orleans Jazz Fest. Ok.. The Line-Up is out! And I suggest (humbly and with all due respect)
that we do it!

What say you out there!?!

(I like the line-up for the second weekend. That's the weekend of 4/30, 5/1, and 5/2. Although there is no shortage of talent and plenty of fun for all during the entire two week jazz orgy!)

Your comments Danners and Dannettes...

Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch travel agency

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 10:33:16

Ole/Clas/Zeke et al: After a preliminary review of the NO JazzFest artist list I believe I'm leaning towards the first weekend. It's been awhile since I've seen Santana... and the Nelson Riddle Orchestra fronted by Harry Connick Jr. doing Sinatra!!! Sounds like a "can't miss" weekend to me!

The list I found is at

It doesn't list all of the venues nor times.

Name: DrMu
kibbles n' bits

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 09:08:27

Funky Cold Medina, Peter North, Edd: The first advertised DDD recording that I am aware of was Ry Cooder's "Bop 'Til You Drop."

Name: Socaible Hermit
Darting Shadows and Rustling

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 09:03:46

Hello Everyone,

In response to everyone who has been wondering where I have been, well, the answer is nowhere, really. I never left. I've been lurking just about everyday, but remarkably have had very little to say. I think part of it has to do with the overall mood of the board lately. We all used to be so much more playful than we seem to be now. I could blame it on mid-winter-cabin-fever-blues, but more than a few posters live in fair weather climates, so who knows what the problem is. It's symptoms consist of: negativity, name-calling, misogyny, misology, misanthropy and a general crankiness. I know that I myself have been guilty of a few of these in my personal life, it's just that this used to be a pleasant sanctuary from all of that outside crap. Now, sadly, this has become a reflection of that outside crap. I've gotten to the point where I scroll past many of the postings because it's either flames, or people trying to defend themselves from the flamers. It's a little ridiculous. Especially the hateful words that have been flung at Rose Darling. There's no reason for any of that. I don't remember her attacking anyone that viciously where those words would be justified. People come in here from myriad demographics, idiologies, lifestyles, all because we share one thing in common, love for the music. And, because we think we made friends in here, and by visiting with them we will feel some happiness. These attacks are mean and hurtful and unwarrented. And, for as much as it matters, I enjoy seeing lovey-dovey, kissy-face couples telling each other that they love and respect, and miss each other. It makes me feel that there really is some hope. So please, anyone who wants to spread love ("love", Peter North, not "legs"), you have every blessing that I could extend. I desperately would like to come back in here and write long, stupid stories, (no, I consider this long, stupid non-fiction), that have little or nothing to do with Steely Dan, without fear of reprisial, other than the occassional mention of spelling and grammar errors. Now, please, don't think that I am trying to say that people do not have a right to speak whatever is on their mind - I am a staunch believe in the freedom of speech. But remember, just because you have freedom, don't think you can stand in front of a stranger and scream, "Fuck you! You suck!", over and over again without people getting sick of you.

Anyway...(3 dots...)

Steely Danielle, JosieDanFan, and Foxinsocks: A great big HELLO back to the three of you. Thanks for thinking of me.

Brook Lynne, where have YOU been?

Hello to anyone else that I have forgotten, and an advanced sorry for that error.
I'll be out here, dropping in on occassion. Can't wait for the new one, and eagerly anticipating the tour.


Name: JosieDanFan
when Josie comes home, it's funk. She left her coffee cup on the trunk....

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 06:40:27

Oh Vey, I gotta start taking Ginseng or something. I'm starting to live up to Kinky's air-head perseption of me. Like, OH MY GOD!! Blah... }:>Ž
Went to the library to check out some books, took a look at the CD's they had. Suprisingly, *Kamakiriad* was there but no other Steely. Oh well, what did I expect?
Damn, I'm so tired I forgot what I actually came here to post about. Sorry for taking up the space...

David in the FL Room: I love you man!!!!!
Katy: Hi sis!!

See ya (..)

Name: Clas
wrestling my case

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 05:49:16

HEY - sorry, can't tell.

But I have left, didn't you see the Swan Song? I'm just popping in now and then to see how you guys are doing.

Name: infomaster
for the general

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 05:34:29

hussein, in fact, remained NEUTRAL during the gulf war, refusing to let either the u.s. or iraq utilize the airspace over jordan.

i bet you are really norm macdonald tryin' to front.

Name: jon
@his yellow stripe

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 05:30:16

re Dias review:

Sam--in answer to your question, I thought Dias would sound more like he did on, say, Your Gold Teeth II for instance. Having seen Skunk and Denny share a stage back in '74, I'm cognizant of their stylistic differences, nor did I not expect axes to be smashed onstage. I'm sorry, but for whatever reason, I did not think his chops were what they once were back in the glory days.
No disrespect was intended toward Mr. Dias, who I continue to hold in the highest esteem.

As far as being a "frustrated musician" goes, you're half-right--but I'm in no way frustrated. I have ample opportunities to play and take advantage of them. I was simply responding to Dinky's website invite to local artists to participate.

And of course the infallible Kinky, in the true spirit of forgiveness for which he is legendary, never fails to take a shot at me for having been gulled into believing a cover band tape was actually SD. (But how come Q got off so easy this time? Or are you saving another of your rapier-like barbs for a future post?)
You are truly a dick.

Name: Edd

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 05:15:12

I'm not sure what the first DDD CD was, but I'm thinking it wasn't either of those.

I'd suspect some classical recording...

Name: Hey

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 04:19:25

I thought you were leaving. Or was the fact that you weren't the "secret" part of that post?

Name: Cla

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 03:22:35

It's Swarzkopf, dumkopf.

Name: Stephanopolous / Kaelin

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 01:39:42


Name: Peter North
Spank the Monkey- Watch the Monkey Get Hurt

Date: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 at 00:33:09

I believe Security was the first DDD recording ever to be released. However, before either album was made, I starred in the classic "The Girls of DDD," and was I ever in tit heaven.

By the way- as if King Hussein had any choice but to publicly support Saddam. It wasn't as if Jordan was supplying Iraq with arms during the war.

Wait, didn't Jordan just retire?

Name: General

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 23:40:20

Rudy: Is this the same King Hussein who sided with Iraq in the Gulf War?

Name: Clas
@ work?

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 23:35:17

Colored girl - sure. What colour are you?

JOker - no. Not that rule. Bra svenska förresten.

BRE - white piles?

And yes,

Salam Alkam

Name: Funky Cold Medina

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 23:18:48

Edd: I need your help. Was Peter Gabriel's "Security" the 2nd DDD recording after Donald Fagen's "The Nightfly"?

Name: Mayor Rudy
Goodbye Your Highness

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 22:04:30

Most leaders come and go, but a few really make an impact on the world. King Hussein was many things , a warrior, a founding father, a peacemaker in a region that has never known it. He will be sorely missed . salam alkam !

Name: Mayor Rudy
Goodbye Your Highness

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 22:04:28

Most leaders come and go, but a few really make an impact on the world. King Hussein was many things , a warrior, a founding father, a peacemaker in a region that has never known it. He will be sorely missed . salam alkam !

Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 17:07:19

just checked Pollstar for Steely Dan dates or anything listed in Don or Walt's names....nada yet....I'll keep checking every few days.

Name: Denny Dias
Back In My Garage

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 16:54:14

Geez, thanks for the critique of my show. I've decided that I do need practice: practice in exactly who we advertise our shows to. Hopefully, if things work out, you won't hear about ANY of my future gigs.


P.S. And people wonder why I havesn't performed in so long.

Name: Barrytown Recycling Enforcement

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 16:32:55

Due to recent dumpings on the frequented Steely Dan Fan Guestbook, we feel the need to offer these recycling tips:

Snarling Rose: The manure that you are so anxious to unload on this guestbook would be put to better use in the compost heap behind the psychiatric ward where you reside. (paranoia will destroy ya)

Clas: Take all the hardened white piles of Pompe's shit and add to one of your favorite shakers for a softer sound. Can't wait to hear the amazing results at the next Dan fan gathering!

Happy Recycling,


Name: OMIO

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 10:10:20

Still haven't confirmed if Krantz showed up at the Sons show...
Haggerty being one of his favorites, anticipation was high..
I know somebody's gotta know... So lemme know...
For an amusing and abstract tangent on Dan history, the elusive Michael Lewis gives a glimpse into his involvement with an interview at
The Dan stuff is about half way through.. not much, but the mud wrestlers and Savage Voodoo Nuns would be upset if he told All...
They got reputations to uphold...

Name: colored girl

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 09:58:33

clas will you be my puff daddy?

Name: JOKEr
Satan! Ungen pissade på sig!

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 09:58:31

CLAS: I prefer to use St. Al's Guestbook nonrules as a starting point for excuses for my own behaviour--

and your design teacher is there to teach you the rules, and to admonish any deviation from the norm: that's has to learn when to question the "rules" and whether the rules are correct in the first place.

[Personally, I never gave a rat's ass about ellipses}

Name: Clas
det här var ju själva jävulen

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 09:41:05

Oh my god, I've been posting here three times already! But I don't remember why!

But now I know why! It's my Cold Medicin, Cocillana, it contents ehtylmorphin, senega and cortex cocillana. Wow!

JoKeR - are you the mainman now? Could we agree on one thing? - No one is allowed to post if he/she has taken some mindchanging substance. Okay, they are welcome to sit in with us, but, they have to be quiet, no posts!....??.... ..?

Name: Sam
back again

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 09:18:52

I wanted to reload to see if there were any comments to my review on the Dias show. Boy, what a surprise to see Jon and his Yellow Stripe's review. You would think we were at two different shows by his review.

Yes Jon, I agree that the sound was awfull and it was way to loud, BUT what did you think Dias was going to sound like? He sounded and played just like he did on all the SD records. Maybe all these years you thought you were listening to Dias when it was really Baxter you were hearing. Did you think Denny was going to run around the stage smashing his ax against his amps? I thought his playing was real nice and after all, he's jazz player not a rock star.

Jon, I think you were a little pissed off that Dinky Dawson didn't let you up on stage, don't take it out on Denny. Sounds to me like your more of a frustrated musician then anything.


Name: GK John
Is that my Geena, mowing the lawn?

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 09:18:19

There is absolutely no truth to the rumor that the Witch Queen and I have run off together! Every once in a while I just like to feel that warm Louziana mud squishing between my toes as I chase the ephemeral Witch Queen of the Bayou through the swamp. The best part of the game is finding another article of lingerie hanging from the swamp oak like Spanish moss, indicating that I'm getting closer! For those of you who didn't recognize it, Ol' Willin' Willie is Witch Queen's brother (One of the many comedians in the family!) And he doesn't get mad when I keep her out late.

Geena- Prego Cara! Sono qui in La Grande Mele stesso. Mi dispiace, ma non ho visto niente d'interesse. E cosi' sto zitta quando c'e niente per dire.
Good to see you back...

Maxine- Make yourself at home! Forgive us at times when the GB gets a little hot and passions run high. I like the way you think, mentioning WSB here in your maiden post. Personally, I found his stuff entertaining when I was just a youth and his works were banned in the early seventies from high school curriculums. Thank God for my Lit teacher, Mr. Searle, who kept us in tune with Mr. Burroughs, Mr. Kerouac & Dr. Leary and also schooled us in the fine art of rolling and "shotgunning".

MCP- Horn cuts? Two that jump to mind immediately are Century's End and Black Cow. But I REALLY love the work on Kama... That's not bias, is it?

Hmmmm... Epitaph, epitaph... Hmmmm

Ole, Rose, Josie, Katie, et. al., Despite the negativity, name calling and mudslinging, (sorry about the metaphor) keep your collective chins up and carry on with the grace and eloquence we (the regulars here) all know you are capable of. Some of us admire these qualities in women. Right guys?

Witchy Queen- Ah'll be back soon cheri! Ah jess gotta stock up sum mo o dat Viagry stuff agin!

I got it! Epitaph!

Roll out the bones!
His name lives on!
Raise up your glass!
To Good King John!

I love paraphrasing the Dan!

Name: Clas
Objections your honor!

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 09:13:11

JoKeR - NOT the dot-rules! That's what my teacher in graphic design taught me - "three dots, not five not seven not two, three dots, else you show your amateurism."

By the way (BTW), has anyone the setlist for Frankfurt 1989?

Name: jOKer
dots & loops

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 08:59:15

CLAS: i DO know about ellipses, my fine swedish friend.................don't even try to come to me with the 3-dot rule, rules were meant to be broken.

Name: Clas
when the shit hits the dan fan

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 08:47:21

joKeR - if you're a graphic designer you should know about the three-dots-rule.

And those lyrics - it's impossible to sing those words of yours with the "Haitian Divorce"-melody.

For example - "thus turned in the love, the face of the predigers red..."

Try to sing that with the same rhythm when you sing "so in love, the preachers face turned red..."

Oh Boy, was it nice to take a break from my new life?

Name: Yo

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 08:36:20

Jon- You can always listen to the 1977 tour rehearsal out-takes that you thought was Steely Dan, ("that was so fucking great"), only to find out later that it was really a SD cover band from New Jersey. Did you include that in your letter to Dinky? I don't think your opinion/ears counts for much.

Name: jon@his yellow stripe
RFD 19

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 07:35:29

Had to weigh in with my comments re Denny Dias performance. Not only was sound quality abysmal (piercingly loud, gratuitous reverb) and musicianship of the house band suspect (reminders by members of the band that they just got together for the first time the previous evening, should've prepared us for the worst), Denny's playing led me at one point to declaim to my wife, "I don't know what Denny's been up to these last few years, but it sure-as-hell ain't playing guitar." To which she replied at the top of her lungs, WHAT, I CAN'T HEAR YOU?

I'm not carping here, sincerely. And I can already imagine that others are thinking, 'If you think you can do better, why don't YOU get up on stage and play?' (I actually wrote Dinky Dawson and offered to do just that and never got a reply.)

I traveled 3 hours to worship at the alter of someone I have revered as a guitar god since I first started shaving, and his playing was so uninspired as to be boring. On the car ride home I listened to the tape I made just to verify what I witnessed, and yep, sure enough, it sucked.

Name: joKER

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 07:03:51

a double post!
and yet, not so much: there IS one smidgen of difference between them.

{look, Kink, I have so much freakin time I post TWICE!]

sorry 'bout that: i was gonna add that Scheidung Haitian wurde in Deutsches und dann zurück in Englisch übersetzt.

Name: jOKeR
bad verworrenen hair day

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 06:58:58

KINKY: good guess! Sure didn't have as much time last year, what with the design business. You know, working and all. But financially it went VERY well; and, well, now that I'm about to retire after just a YEAR'S work, I got all this time.....i got a lot of catching up to do.
But using SD's name for profit -- there's no better game in town. You'd think such an enlightened mind as yourself could find a creative way to make it work for might even have an idea or 2; but I know you have restricted visitation hours [which I'm writing a letter to your docs about, don't you worry], so it must be frustrating anyway.....

here, i translated a song just for you, girlfriend:

Babs and clean Willie were in the love, which they said,
thus turned in the love, the face of the predigers red
Soon everyone knew that the thing was dead
It walk, it bites, it wrangle by the night. Yeahhh.
It goes receiving moved, forming a Getaway.
Legends dad,

"huh Ahhh, no hesitating, no breaks and no inside training ', no remorse
Huh Uhhh, congratulations, these is your divorce Haiti to",

you takes the taxi to the good hotel
bon Marche, if she can say.
She drinks the Zombie of the cocoa bowl.
It feels alright, it receives it on this evening.
Yeah. Gentleman drivers," take me,where the music play ",

Legends dad,
"huh Ahhh, no hesitating, no breaks and no inside training ', no remorse
Huh Uhhh, congratulations, these is your divorce Haiti to",

With the Grotto in the smudgy chair
sits the Charlie with the lotion and the verworrenen hair.
When it smiled, it said it to all.
The tape was hot, therefore
they danced the famous Merango.
Now we carriage rear side.
Now we fade, in order to blacken.

Reunification Tearful in the USA
Day until day, those memory fades to away.
Some babies grow in their own way.
It modified, grew it, and everyone knew. Yeahhh.
Semi mojo, who is this verworrene so-and-so?
Go to dad,

Legends dad,
"huh Ahhh, no hesitating, no breaks and no inside training ', no remorse
Huh Uhhh, congratulations, these is your divorce Haiti to",

Name: jOKeR
bad verworrenen hair day

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 06:58:31

KINKY: good guess! Sure didn't have as much time last year, what with the design business. You know, working and all. But financially it went VERY well; and, well, now that I'm about to retire after just a YEAR'S work, I got all this time.....i got a lot of catching up to do.
But using SD's name for profit -- there's no better game in town. You'd think such an enlightened mind as yourself could find a creative way to make it work for might even have an idea or 2; but I know you have restricted visitation hours [which I'm writing a letter to your docs about, don't you worry], so it must be frustrating anyway.....

here, i translated a song just for you, girlfriend:

Babs and clean Willie were in the love, which they said,
thus turned in the love, the face of the predigers red
Soon everyone knew that the thing was dead
It walk, it bites, it wrangle by the night. Yeahhh.
It goes receiving moved, forming a Getaway.
Legends dad,

"huh Ahhh, no hesitating, no breaks and no inside training ', no remorse
Huh Uhhh, congratulations, these is your divorce Haiti to",

you takes the taxi to the good hotel
bon Marche, if she can say.
She drinks the Zombie of the cocoa bowl.
It feels alright, it receives it on this evening.
Yeah. Gentleman drivers," take me,where the music play ",

Legends dad,
"huh Ahhh, no hesitating, no breaks and no inside training ', no remorse
Huh Uhhh, congratulations, these is your divorce Haiti to",

With the Grotto in the smudgy chair
sits the Charlie with the lotion and the verworrenen hair.
When it smiled, it said it to all.
The tape was hot, therefore
they danced the famous Merango.
Now we carriage rear side.
Now we fade, in order to blacken.

Reunification Tearful in the USA
Day until day, those memory fades to away.
Some babies grow in their own way.
It modified, grew it, and everyone knew. Yeahhh.
Semi mojo, who is this verworrene so-and-so?

Go to dad,
Legends dad,
"huh Ahhh, no hesitating, no breaks and no inside training ', no remorse
Huh Uhhh, congratulations, these is your divorce Haiti to",

Name: Clas
Swan Song

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 06:53:07

Yes, I think I've finally made up my mind. I have to leave you dear friends, my life has changed and I have to move on to something bigger and better. What it is? Sorry, that's a secret I can't reveal.

Have a good life you buddies.

No, what I mean is; have good lifes my buddies, one life for each person, you can't have two (2) lifes can you? Well, if you have several lifes you sure are a schizo.

Ya da man! Keep up the good work! I've had the best LOL's in my life in this place (IMHO). Jabba de Hut!!!

And what can be better than sign off with a Bruce Hornsby song;

"Sometimes it's the right thing to cut the cord

You've been holding on hard but your hands get sore

Sometimes it's worth it, but sometimes you wonder what for..."

Audios Amigos (snyft!)

Name: Sam
Throw out Your Gold Teeth

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 05:40:57

I live in the Boston area and was able to see the Denny Dias show in Plymouth Mass. It was really great and also very strange to see Mr. Dias in action after all these years. Hearing him play, you would never have thought he had retired from the music biz. The house band (who BTW was only fair IMHO) played a bunch of SD songs with Denny taking most of the solos. FM was real good and even though I don't think Dias played on that record, he really nailed it. The crowd of about 300 (?) people were chanting DENNY, DENNY through out the evening. Dias also played some songs he himself had written, and they sounded very Danish. When the show was over, I got Denny to autograph my Can't Buy a Thrill record cover, which made my night complete. I hope all of you get to watch and hear Denny play live one day. It was a real treat!

Gots to go now. Later

Name: Home
Location: MTL, WayUpThere
Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 05:39:05

Katy : if they don't tour anywhere close to my place, i'll be really p.o'd this time (again)...had to treck it all the way down to Saratoga Springs to catch them in 93...was worth every mile, though.

my 2 cents :
Katy, Rose, Oleander....i had no idea the Babylon Sisters were triplets.

peace, ya'll.

Name: Peter North
Yeah, we've got something in common...

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 02:07:43

Geena- Oddly enough, I also stand mostly to the right, leaning a little to the left. You ought to see it some time.

Name: Clas
@ work, keep forgetting...

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 00:58:51


"By turns funky and languorous, percolating with the rythmns of New Orleans and the tricky time signatures of jazz, Spirit Trail embraces the vast scope of genres that inspire Hornsby. "I think it's a very Southern record," Bruce says, "the place it's coming from is elemental - gospel, folk, the blues. I'm a child of the South and I've always written about that experience. I'm also trying to see if there's a place for virtuosity in popular music. Balancing technique and emotion excites me. The artwork for my last album showed Bill Monroe and Charlie Parker playing together - that's the kind of range I like."

What about that Don?

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Monday, February 8, 1999 at 00:34:58

Oleander - not those who have to carry a plastic bag on their stomach.

Schwinn - and of course - "Bad Sneakers"! And "dr Wu".


I've finally learned him to sit when I say "SIT!". That is not bad for a three (3) year old dog.

But there's one problem, yesterday when I sat at my piano and played just out in the blue, I found a cool groove and a cool melody. I screamed - this is a HIT!

Who comes running out from the bedroom and sat down tight beside me?

Name: oleander
some things will never change

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 23:33:10

Maxine--good tip. I also appreciate your judicious choice of all-caps without the excess exclamation points. Hope you stick around. Misogyny is best left to men, I think, and as you can see there's already plenty around here among anonymous cowards.

Steely Danielle--you bet I'm down, girlfriend! The feeling's mutual, and is based on actual more-than-once face-to-face contact, even though one of those times you spent mostly asleep. You know that you are coolness personified, and that you speak from the heart; ignore those who flame you.

Kinksta--I may have commented on your Buddhahood, but my religion prohibits me from considering you a Messiah. But you know when my birthday is, and what to get me. Nuff said!

Dennyfan--Then scroll, baby, scroll! But if you don't mind a little pathetic blathering, I believe you can find BigFan's bodacious account of Mr. Dias' triumphant appearance on the Digest. If you can't find it, I'm sure a number of people would be glad to send it on.

Geena--missed you and your feisty class.

Rose--unlike the guys, at least I use E.O.E.--equal opportunity epithets. Everybody has an asshole.

Name: Big Fan

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 23:14:43

DennyFan: Send me an email and I will send you my comments on seeing Denny Dias recently.

Name: Miss Crabtree

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 23:05:15

Stranger- Stick to the subject!

Name: TheStranger
don't take your food into the house

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 22:35:38

we're getting tired of people telling us to stick to the subject. and so instead of explaining to you why this is unnecessary we decided instead to have you torn to pieces by a pack of hungry wolves. please don't eat any red pepper the next couple days. it makes them sneeze.

you mean i can't go out and see mud wrestlers anymore? one more freedom taken away. next they'll tell me i can't have fools torn apart by wolves.

Name: TheKatyDanFan
c/o el

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 22:34:40

Denny: Not sure but I think it's BigFan who saw Denny and sent around some great info on it that I got to read----very interesting stuff. I think his email is with his handle here somewhere, you gotta scroll back, he definitely posted in Feb. though, so you shouldn't have to scroll back too far.

Geena: Have you already told us what it is you're studying? I'm interested.

Chat room news: Last evening ran into Dangerman (who we've been missing in here) and O Michael (one of our Gentlemen) and Maxine. It was quite enjoyable and we talked about Steely Dan the whole time (amazing, isn't it?).... that is, until Dangerman's teen shot his paint gun at the neighbor's house! Let's Do It Again, guys!

I have a question about the tour. Does anyone know---- if and when SD tours this year, will they be all over the U.S. and will they hit the obvious big cities? Have all their tours been similar in that they tend to go to the same places? Will I have to move to the south or somewhere? :)

RazorBoy: Yep, I love that in Pretzel Logic and also I realized again today the guitar solo in Third World Man is totally captivating. I can never quite believe it when I hear it! (I didn't look up who plays it). I learned that Larry Carlton was with the Crusaders until that when he began working with SD?

El Supremo: Think Deacon Blues....I am, and I love you!

Just Katy :)

Name: DennyFan

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 17:40:03

I don't remember much discourse from those who saw Denny on the Guestbook ! Can someone give me info on archives or someone to email who saw it ? Did he do Dan licks ?

I agree with Kinky- I'm sick of all the crap on here from the guys & dolls- let's talk about Steely Dan- not your PATHETIC BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!(even Oleanders's pseudo Dan blathering get's old)


Name: mitch
the new one,

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 17:01:41

Its good to hear the release date has been announced. Its great to see Geena post here again,a breath of fresh air from the ridiculous carping that has dominated here lately.

Name: Rose Darling
Aren't you people tired yet?

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 16:00:08

"Downer surrealism" certainly applies to posts in this GB at times


STEELY DANIEL, the only admirable thing you said is that you defended oleander, who needs no defense actually.
Regarding " you're too busy condemning the personae you've hastily fabricated and consider to be a concrete reality."
All posters here are only known to me by what they write. They fabricate themselves, and we all either react, respond, disregard or evaluate. And if anyone's first and repeated intention is to f$%* with me or be snide, then I don't need more paragraphs or advice from you on what I should think of them.
Concrete reality? This place has only a passing resemblance to reality as many people who post here say things they would not say to people in person. Condemning personae? I only condemn those who are nasty to me and if you actually stick around here and read my posts, you will discover nothing else.

Draw your own imagined conclusions from my paragraphs as you don't know me either and have presumed that I don't like oleander. Tragic loss to you as you are incorrect. You also presume I am brainless enough to think I know people here.
And you also made presumptions about my personal life and how I relate to people from reading my posts? Any of this sinking in? Might you want to post some more about the art of presuming since you do it so well?

KINKY - Nobody died except your vacant self and made you king to decide why anyone should post here and what they should say. Didn't you read St. Al's rules? THERE AREN'T ANY. Amazing how much time you devote to "enforcing" unenforceable rules made up in your head. Gee, I guess you've got little better to do with your allegedly more wisely spent free time either. For someone who objects so vehemently to the social aspects of this place, you sure do come around often enough to suck up every post, digest it and spit it out. Guess your personal life is so remarkable, huh?. You're even checking in daily to see how you can engage in more verbal warfare. Are you so hateful because you hate yourself for compulsively coming here as well? Especially since most posts don't meet your criteria for even tolerable?
P.S. Do you think we could not have gotten the release date of the New One from anywhere else but you? Are you supposed to be our Messiah?

Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 13:04:06


Name: Right On

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 11:42:39

GEENA: Your sense of timing is very good.

Name: Geena
Here at the Western World

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 10:19:11

Good to see you too. I just call 'em as I see 'em as far as what music means to me, but of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Tell me, does Becker sign in under his own name or does he use an alias?

You're right, I do ignore the ignoramuses, but sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do.

I see the new SD release date is June 8th. I know I've missed a lot since I've been gone, but isn't that too late? Especially if it's to be followed by a tour? I've been away from the industry for 3 years but it's always been sort of an unwritten rule that record companies try to release new albums at the beginning of the year for a summer tour. But then again, they may have something else up their sleeve. Mu or anyone else have any thoughts on this?

My vacation is only a week but enough time to catch up on things. I've got my schedule and studying straightened out, so I should be posting a lot more now. If you want my views on feminism, I'd have to email them to you, but just know that I mostly stand to the right, but lean a little to the left. Well, I hope GKJohn and Witch Queen are happy, I was just responding to his post.

Michael C. Packard:
Sorry, I mow my own lawn, LOL! Those of you who live in warmer climates have to mow lawns all year long. In the NE it's seasonal, because the ground is usually too damn frozen or covered with ice or snow. My favorite is the sax on DrMU...I mean Dr. Wu, Deacon Blues and Caves of Altamira.

Mud wrestling still exists?

Thanks for the info on W.S. Burroughs, he's one of my favorite writers next to Jack Kerouac. What's so hard to read about his novels?

Hank Silvers:
Your post made me wonder about Kinky's inside information, luck maybe? Nah! I don't think so. My wheels are in motion right now.

Oh yes, I understand clearly now.

Name: editor

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 09:54:24

fulfilling gb parameters for danlessness & political erectness.

doing my part.

> Mr. John Hinkley
> St. Elizabeth Hospital
> Washington D.C.
> Dear John,
> Hillary and I wanted to drop you a short note to tell you how pleased
> we are with the great strides you are making in your recovery. In
> our Country's new spirit of understanding and forgiveness we want you
> to
> know there is a bilateral consensus of compassion and forgiveness
> abroad throughout the land.
> Hillary and I want you to know that no grudge is born against you for
> shooting President Reagan. We, above all are aware of how the mental
> stress and pain could have driven you to such an act of desperation.
> Hillary and I are confident that you will soon make a complete
> recovery and return to your family to join the world again as a healthy
> and
> productive young man.
> Best wishes,
> Bill Clinton
> P.S. Ken Starr is fucking Jodie Foster

Name: Razor BOy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 09:45:09

KTDF - That's the spirit! Personally, I love the guitar work in 'Pretzel Logic,' but I never got any liner notes with my lp, so I don't know who to credit.

Regarding the new release, can we expect any type of interactive session with Donald and Walter in the near future? Even just a list of the musicians who played on the various tracks would whet the appetite. I'm curious to know if people like Rick Derringer, Mark Knoffler Rob Mounsey for instance, will appear. Vocalists like Mark McDonald for instance, all makes for interesting speculation. It's great to just be able to talk of a true SD studio effort.

Ruby - sign in, your spirit is missed here.

Name: Steve V
@heavy rain,California

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 09:44:27

clas:what would Zappa say about message boards ?!

Zappa once called Steely Dan "downer surrealism", which irked Fagen & Becker circa '78

other new releases for '99-
David Sylvian- 'Dead Bees on A Cake' in March
Hugh Cornwell (ex-Stranglers) - 'Black Hair , Black Tie

off to Singapore! Happy Chinese New Year!!!!! 'Year of The rabbitt'

hope you all find a mandarin plum!

Name: Clas
@ work, not working

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 06:10:01

Hey, this is cool:

"Rock journalism is people who can't write, preparing stories based on interviews with people who can't talk, in order to amuse people who can't read"

Frank Zappa

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 04:49:12

Geena - read closer honey. The first half of that post means that you can be a real asshole without calling people "asshole", "bitch" or "fucking moron" etc. Get it? And remember, I never promised you a rose, darling.

"... it's about having respect for one another and it's about peaceful co-existence. I hope you understand now."

Hey! That's a great thought! I think I understand a little. How did you come up with that one? It's so original. Like the idea of paradise.

Michael C. Packard - sorry, I'm not allowed to answer questions like that. A simple advise: ask Edd Cote, he will answer with his left hand.

Maxine - who cares about Burroughs? And by the way, do you have a telephone?

Schwinn - sorry about that, I saw you people down there while I was hanggliding over that damn lake. I landed on a truck on its way to Mandeville. When I finally came back (on another truck and another day) you people were gone.

Steely Daniel - so you mean that Pompes shit is shit? Have you never heard about recycling?

Name: William Butler Yeats

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 03:36:30

In 1799 Napoleon's men unearthed the Rosetta Stone. Isn't that fuckin' coincidental? Napoleon. Steely Dan. Century's end?

Slouching Towards Bethlehem,


Name: Return to Brenda

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 01:26:59

Thanks to the Extendo-Dan 2000 (a futuristic product mentioned in TAN), I stuttered ever so briefly forward to June 8th, 1999 and saw nothing but Denny Dias's familiar over-alls in the SD bin at Tower records. Thanks for the "bogus" info, Kinky. Now Ming has a fix and Buck is too engrossed in the pay-per-view Backstreet Boys Concert to answer his PrimeCo phone.



Name: JosieDanFan
woke up to darkness..then turned on the light.

Date: Sunday, February 7, 1999 at 00:22:38

hey DanFans:
Oh geeze, thanks Kinky, Lonnie..that was a good one. I needed a good laugh. Oh geeze..I said Oh geeze. I've been in the Mid West too long..ya you betcha!

Just Katy: Hey sis, thanks for clarifying. I figured there was no band wagon. Tell El Supremo Burrito hola para me.

Lester the Dirty Night Fly Bird of the afternoon and so on: LMAO I still get a big kick outta you.

Michael C. Packard: Thanks for the invite, but mud is not my color. Maybe Cherry Jell-o? We'll talk.

Sociable Hermit: Are we going to have to change your name to Anti-Sociable Hermit? Where are you dude?

I forget who posted the actual C&W song titles but I got a huge laugh out of them, thanks for sharing.

Seems like a lot of humor has been in here lately, hopefully it will continue.
Well gotta go make a SD tape for my honey, see ya'll later!!


Name: Peter North
More news

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 23:42:43

What I would love to "do to all the women" (learn to spell, 911 boy).

Found this tidbit in the latest issue of People magazine:

Will soon release his first wad since last week. His publicist states that North has been poring over his loads for the past 7 years in search of the perfect wad.

Michael, I'm deeply offended at your remarks about mud wrestling. Obviously, you have no respect for women at all. I'm so disappointed in you. Shame, shame.

By the way, I was listening to Alive in America today, and I think they should have picked a few songs differently. Aja, for example, doesn't come off very good on the CD, particularly when you compare it to the studio version. I would have liked to hear My Old School, Bad Sneakers, or something else they might have played a little better on the '93 and '94 tours. I love Peg, Green Earrings, and Reelin'. Also, I think they should release 10 more live albums and a concert video.

Speaking of videos, I've got to get back to work.

Name: Guest Book 911 Team
more icepacks and compresses

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 23:08:44

Do to all the Women now posting we are in need of some first aid products. Please send your tax deductible kits here. The injuries have been mostly bruises, but you know how it is when women go at it,plenty of scratches too.

Name: willie the hand jive
rather do smack than do rose

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 22:58:58

Rose darlin, you have helped turn this board into a soap opera. I think you are doing it for attention. i`m not one to pick sides, but Oleander has been a bonifide leader here and you have been a bonifide Jenny Jones.

Name: Schwinn

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 22:53:17

Kinky: Have any plans for the Chinese New Year? I still have a dozen cherry bombs and an M-80 if you want to blow some stuff up.

Aggregate Intelligence + Collective Unconscious = a nice long nap after milk break.

Strumming Fate,


Name: Maxine

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 21:48:28

Gentleman Loser: I see. I guess I should read a little further next time!(Ordinarily I would make some clever, self-deprecating remark about being a ditzy female, but considering the current climate I wonder if I should refrain?)
Still it's nice to see a date in print. If anyone else turns up something I hope they will take time to share!

Goodnight all!

Name: Hank Silvers
c/o Hugo Spaak

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 20:20:47

Re-checked the SIS archives tonight, and found the post from Kinky that led me to believe he knew the release date for Two Against Nature.

If my interpretation was wrong, well, give me a few moments to put on my thermasuit. . .

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Name: Kinky
mad as a MARCH hare, but I'll be happy
Location: come June 8th! , :-P
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998

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Name: Gentleman Loser
in the hole
Location: Crimson Tide, AL
Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 19:54:48

MAXINE: Any additional confirmation by an independent source is appreciated. Mountain Music refers to KMTT - The Mountain. That's the radio station in Seattle where John Fisher, a morning DJ, received "Happy Birthday" calls from both Walter Becker and Donald Fagen last summer. See St. Al's Banyon Tree site for details. The site you found refers to artists played on KMTT who will be releasing new CDs soon. Other notables on the list include Neville Bros (Feb), Los Lobos, Neil Young, and Peter Gabriel who wins a runner-up award for anal-retentive recording habits:

GABRIEL, PETER (Spring 1999)
Up. His next long-awaited studio CD, with the same name as the new R.E.M. CD. Peter's manager attributes the long wait to the fact that Gabriel's been going over 35 new songs, trying out as many as ten different versions of each song until he gets what he wants. The man's a perfectionist.

Name: Nitwit Police
Pix at the Post Office: Intellectless Poster, Kinkola, NP

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 19:16:55


Sweetheart Rose--
We knew you had thorns after all--you do not have permission to stop posting howevah. Benevolent Big Brothers and Sisters are watching you.

Kinky, IP, NP:
We know you'd like to make the women's lives here a living hell, but, well...
They're just not available for a relationship with luh-HOOO-zers right now, but thanks for asking.

Name: Kinky
Somewhere in the drainpipe

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 18:22:45

Rose - Why don't I try including something Dan related in my next post, you ask? Well, according to some of the posters here, I've correctly given you the release date of the new album. Now, if that ain't THE most Steely Dan related bit of news to hit these parts, then I don't know what is. Oh wait, maybe that story by JosieDanFan might have this beat. Remember? That story where she took her car to the garage and noticed that the mechanic's name was "Lonnie"? You know, like the guy that swept the playroom? Could you believe it? I mean, "Lonnie" of all names... now THAT was some interesting Dan discussion. Wouldn't you agree?

Besides, Rose Dumpling, my post was directed to someone who doesn't give a "rat's ass" about hearing about Steely Dan. I mean, why would I put SD info into a post intended for you? Wouldn't want you to have to scroll through all that senseless Dan info to get to the real important personal chat, now, would I? And you say I'm not nice...

It's about being LUH-OOOOOO-ZERS !!! Yeah, losers... people who turn this board into a social scene because they lead such a full and exciting "real" life. People who come here looking for "friends" and "support". People who can actually say "I love you" and "you're such a remarkable person" to complete strangers just because they post to this guestbook and obviously lead as dismal a life as they do. Yeah, Rose, you hit it right on the head... it's about being LUH-OOOOOO-ZERS !!!

JOKEr - Thanks for reposting that article about the rap song. I guess you were out trying to promote your graphic design business under the guise of Steely Dan when it originally came out and was posted on this site a year ago.

Name: Maxine
still hanging on...

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 18:11:22

I know I shouldn't post twice like this, but I just found something interesting that I thought I would share with the group:

Found @: Mountain Music
"Two Against Nature." Tentative title for a new album. Becker and Fagen have worked at Walter's place in Hawaii and in New York City, and a tour will follow this summer."

I realize there is not much here that is new, but a little confirmation is always nice!! (I am confused by one thing, though, I was under the impression that the new album would be released on Giant Records.)

Name: Steely Daniel (rust and stain resistant)
corn nuts?...cheeseball?...Anyone?
Location: there's plenty, to go around.
Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 18:01:04

Dearest Rose Darling,

Not a poster here is exempt from flaming and Olender's buns have been toasted before. Instead of absorbing the venom and spitting it back into the flow of exchange she lets it roll off her back and dribble down the guestbook drainpipe disappearing into the abyss of useless negativity. And as far as I'm concerned there is no "paler" form of's all a dark, ugly, nasty shade of dung, and like dung, a by-product of life. Learn how to let it go.(Translation for Clas- dung = smelly morning pile left just for you by the loyal Pompe) You presume to know an awful lot about the people who post here based on a couple of paragraphs out of their lives. I imagine you probably don't REALLY get to know very many people because you're too busy condemning the personna you've hastily fabricated and consider to be a concrete reality. A tragic loss to you. I personally have met Oleander and consider her to be a very intelligent, open minded, down to earth and groove-a-liscious babe. A woman worth knowing and deserving respect.

Hey Ole- Looking forward to shakin' my bones in N'orlens...hope you're down.

Can't get enough o' that Kinky so-n-so.

Sorry for taking up so much valuable time and space on this very entertaining guestbook. I will go back to my life now and continue to lurk occasionally.

Hey Hermie, are you still out there?

Name: OMIO

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 17:43:35

Heard rumors Wayne Krantz was at the Sons of Champlin concert in Portland last night.. True? Now, back to the Void..

Name: JustKatyDanFan

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 17:12:35

O Michael: But I don't wanna be in the mud before the set. I want to be out there DURING the set....singing, dancing or better yet, both! I've been practicing!
Thank you for loving us SD girls, I'm so glad for men like you in here who appreciate us, we decided we'll keep you; will you send Don and Walt our names so they can properly introduce us as they do Catherine Russell and the others?
If you keep being so nice, well, I guess I'll have to give in and ask El Supremo about you protecting me when he's gone!
And the horns I love are, hands down, in Caves of Altamira!!

El Supremo: Just Katy, Just Kidding, Darling :)


Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 17:07:39


FEB 5, 1914 - AUG 2, 1997



Name: Michael C. Packard
Location: Wax'in the cars/mowin' the lawn in the Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 16:25:17

Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!

And, Geena just 'where' were you when I mowed my lawn today?

Clas, what the Hell is a 'shaker'? Is that where they pour the alcohol down your throat, and 'shake-you-up', instead of shaking up the drink?

As I have previously mentioned, the DanFanLadies here are one-in-a-million, and I love 'em all. After all, how many women really listen and love Walt and Don's music, anyway?

So, I would love to hear what y'all think is your favorite 'horn' cut from Steely Dan songs? I like the horns Walt and Don integrate into their music. Jazz/blues/rock fusion.

"Two Against Nature" is an appropo title for the new album. And, I think maybe Walt and Don anonymously posted to find out just which of the GB ladies would be the best "mud-wrestling" act, before their next tour. I think they have a new marketing strategy which includes women from the GB as 'in-this-corner'. Interesting, but wouldn't it be GREAT to see Rose Darling, Geena, Josie, JustKaty, Oleander, and so many others on stage before the set??

Okay, I'm done!!


; )

Name: TheKatyDanFan
".....the change of the guard...."

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 15:52:40

Geena: Nice to see you back. Enjoy your vacation! What you've said makes sense. I often wonder, too, why it is that when women are either frustrated or assertive, certain assumptions are made (??)

Kinky: Welcome back! I see you're in typical form, lol. I love you, too, honest! And I also love Burritos---especially El Burritos, or is that....El Burrito's?

Clas: I always enjoy your posts :) How are things in Sweden? And you're correct, Ole is a very nice person! I was kind of nervous to send her my lyric interpretation on one of the songs.....and I got a neat email back from made my day!

Ole: (speaking of you) I like your idea of posting our epitaphs from SD lyrics. I'm going to think of one for each of my nine lives in here. The first one that comes to mind, of course, is "Home at Last."

LTNF: Thanks, Lester, you're a doll, but I want you to know, I'm quite sure I'm the lucky one!

DrMu: Equal Opportunity Insulting? We sound like a government agency. And someone mentioned our "aggregate intellect?" Sounds like we'd be awesome in the corporate world! Some others mentioned tolerance, respect for each other and peaceful sounds like we're getting there in theory, but then theory is generally way ahead of best practice. And we, the present DanFan GBers, get to be the ones to enjoy/resist the change of the guard, that is, if the new guard ever shows up. (Actually, I believe Kinky has the new guard tied up somewhere down the street...)

Oh, Geena: I'm not sure but I think GK John ran off with Witch Queen!

FiveNames: You might have something there, haven't been here long enough to know that your kind of post causes rage in reverse! And whoever said we want to be easy on the psyche? Now that would be truly boring, even to me!

Name: Snarling Rose
@Darling Kitty Mail

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 15:19:00

Mee-ow ! RrrrrrrrrrrrrrOWWW, RrrrrrrrrrrOWWW !!!

Name: Rose "You Gotta Love Me Even If You Hate Me" Darling
@Show Business Kid Celebrity Flame Roast Victim of the Month

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 15:15:21

I LOVE how I give a warning not to read my posts and still the suckers out there who hate me read compulsively anyway, needing fodder for more abuse. It's cheaper than heroin, I guess.

Kinky a.k.a. Steely Dan's Witnesses' Grand Pooh-Bah: I only suggested an IM from you so I could enjoy refusing it. Say, if you are so into talking only about the Dan here, why don't you actually try including something Dan related in your next post, or do you prefer your usual vitriolic ramblings? You've got nothing to say if you're not libeling someone. You're a one note persona. Try a few other notes now and then, and you might get to a song. At least I have an aptitude for being nice, even if I don't practice it regularly. Don't count on my own guestbook either. I prefer to ruin this one for you. And oh, how especially fun that is !!! P.S. How coincidental that you and Newbie address the whole Dias subject exactly the same way. You ought to get together sometime !

To All My Detractors: Go D.U. !!!
(That's nicer talk than F*#K You., it means "Go Dan Yourself ! "

To All Those Offering Sympathy or Condolences, including Steely Sweeties Stranger and The fezo of finesse:
Thank You Fer Your Support !!!

Katy and Josie and The Irreplaceable Geena: You da sisters !!!

As Frankie Valli said "big girls don't cry." Take it to heart?
PUL-EEZ !!! Thanks for trying to be a little brother but
I can handle the heckling, darlin' !!! Besides, those who object strongest to my Danless posts meanwhile are busy violating their own code of post standards by harassing me, instead of offering Dan conversation. Good old Kinky, who often has nothing Dan related to discuss, even devoted a large portion of his psychotic post to me. Nothing else on his mind, I guess.
It's about being LUH-OOOOOO-ZERS !!! (Hey, that caps lock thing CAN be a good thing, yes?)
P.S. My "priceless" posts are being evaluated now and estimate worths will be available soon.

I will e you shortly, sans claws.
Re epitaph selection: For me, the obvious one:
"Any World That I'm Welcome To Is Better Than The One I Come From"

Five Names:
Nice to see you posting five+ words. Might you contribute more then to the aggregate deficient intellect?
Get on the stage and perform and maybe you'll know what it's like to get egged... or do you just wanna sit in the audience and boo the show ?
But seriously, I do agree with you. I'm just tossin' eggs from the stage back now and then !!!

Name: Kinky

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 12:37:23

Rose - No, my Snarling Rose, for "those so into endless discussion of those with careers spun off the Dan", there's the STEELY DAN FAN GUESTBOOK. For those who "basically post here to meet and learn more about Dan fans", there's a forum out there just waiting for you to launch. Why not call it the "Steely Dan Fan Fan Guestbook"? Just think, a place where you can post the details of your pathetic little lives to your hearts' content. In no time you'd be knee deep in ILY notes from JUSTKaty and El Burrito. No flames, no namecalling, and more importantly, no one to disrupt the camaraderie with something as insignificant as information about Denny Dias playing live. I mean, he hasn't played live in 25 years! Well, gee, Rose, wouldn't that be precisely the reason it's so newsworthy? To those of us that read the STEELY DAN FAN GUESTBOOK to hear about Steely Dan, that is.

Then you wrote: "I also find myself apparently unwittingly challenging and perhaps stretching the minds of those who subscribe to limitations..." Are you kidding? I think you'd better look a little harder. Ah, but I forgot, you also believed I was posting as the Pewbie Police. And about Instant Messaging you... don't count on it, you couldn't fill the gap in David Letterman's teeth.

Oh, by the way... Oleander isn't "lucky". No one "exempts" her from being flamed... no one, that is, except herself.

FiveNames - What are you talking about? It was just starting to get interesting in here. Then again, I fear you've been reading the wrong board. I mean... "aggregate intellect"??? Sheesh!

June 8th? Did I say the New One would be out June 8th? Hmmm... the only thing I can think of surrounding that date is that it's fairly close to Oleander's birthday.

Name: DrMu
cat fight??...let me get a lawn chair

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 08:10:12

Five Names: I generally subscribe to loving them until they run for cover (or is that Peter North's department?), but fall off the wagon periodically (depends on how you define "periodically"). However, you have to remember that a) this is the internet and b) this is a "band" of which Rickie Lee Jones once said: " their lyrics they were always trying to (dramatic pause while she pumps her arm formard with a twist) stick it (emphasis here) to somebody."

Geena: Good to have you back, but I believe that there has always been equal opportunity insulting going on here for some time...just ignore the ignoramuses.

Name: fezo

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 08:05:18

Geena: It's great to see you back amongst the posters again. Good take on what the music does and doesn't mean to you.

Rose: Don't let the bastards get you down

Katy: It was Entertainment Weekly which said Becker sometimes answers the email on the official site. I'm see him (humerously) correct a couple of erroneous guitar credits but that's about it. But like it says on the site, they're kinda busy right now.

Name: Geena
feeling ague

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 07:49:16

Clas: I'm sorry but I couldn't understand the first half of your post, and it looks like you misunderstood mine. It's not about Men against Women, it's about having respect for one another and it's about peaceful co-existence. I hope you understand now.

Lester TN: Thanks for understanding and for welcoming me back. Men and Women should have respect for each other regardless of their likes or dislikes. It's when it has to resort to nasty name calling to try to get a point across is what I will never understand. It's just not necessary. I'm glad to be back!

Let me finish the song line for you: "rockin' till the break of dawn"

Stranger: I leave for a little while and you forget me already? Not a problem, I know why you chose RD and Ole. Oh and about the was wonderful, thanks! I wouldn't worry about the boys having the right stuff, I think they're going to deliver the same fine quality music they always have, Now hand me that drink you've got there, I'm shutting you off.

GKJohn: Ciao bello! Dove stai? Perche non ci vediamo piu? (translation for those who don't understand: Hello handsome, where are you and why don't I see you anymore) Something get's lost in the english translation.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 02:56:34

Guestbookers - please, enough of Steely Dan now for a while, okay?

Doc Kelly - sorry for the wrong URL.

I'll be living with friends, yes I HAVE friends! Do you want me to send you a pic with me and my friends?

Rose Darling - I don't know what this is between you and Oleander, and really, I don't care. I just wanne say I like you and your posts. But please don't take things too seriously around here. It took me two years to learn that.

And I know, Oleander's got a very sophisticated way to piss people off. She's very sublime. But when you get to know her, she's a damn nice person.

(BTW, thanx for the kind words about my cat)

Oleander - don't take it personally.

Geena - what about "pissboy", "suck my big fat dick moron", "psycho", "dickhead" "hyena"... need I go on? Don't turn this into a "Men against Woman-thing" hon.

Anything new about Jackson Browne?

Did anyone see Hornsby at Letterman?

Name: Angel

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 01:29:08

Five Names- Give me a break!

Name: Nature Boy

Date: Saturday, February 6, 1999 at 01:17:40


Just a reminder that I'm still ready, willing and able to take your criticisms, flames and abuse.

*And Now a 16oz. Tumbler with Every Response,

Nature Boy

*See official rules for details.

Name: Sue
still singin on a cold and windy day

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 23:58:56

I've just quickly scrolled through the last couple weeks of posts, and am very much excited and looking forward to the new album!

My $.02--it seems to me what is being made into a 'catfight', oleander vs. Rose, is simply a difference of opinion between 2 very intelligent and articulate women.

Have been groovin' to the solo on 'Boston Rag', its very driving, powerful. Good hurricane* (*insert natural disaster based on geographic location) music.


Name: Lester the Nitefly!
@u tell me that your super fine mind has come undone

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 23:07:01

Five names- I couldnt agree mor(e)

Bert- uahhh, yuck!

Geena- I dont think i properly welcomed u back... so welcome back, believe it or not that is exactly why I come in here. I think u opened my eyes a little too, men should have a lot of respect for the women who adore steely dan music. YOur the hunters, the care givers, the ladies of the pride of danomaniacs.
I really get excited meeting people who know as much about steely dan as i do, which i admit i could always learn a little more about our boys, but in a funny way i dont want to learn anymore about them. Not so quickly anyhow. I would still like to get excited about learning something new about the band that i adore.

"we began to rock....steady, steady rockin all night long!"

Katy- that el supremo is a lucky guy!!! 8========O
I must have smoked some good shit, I'm agreeing with every post i read so far, wow!!! Anyway, I'm glad u like my survey, however I am gonna have to be getting paid to do the summary of the days posting on a daily basis. But how would i get paid? ummmm, cash!
or SD bootlegs? E-mails of nude Danfans, lol!!! Actually it should be all 3 since that is a damn hard job. There are a lot of post to read. If u forced me to read every post in here, I would go crazy, lol!

Maxine- Heres the initiation process, You have to ask that same question in ALL CAP LOCKS. MY FIRST POST EVER IN HERE WAS IN ALL CAP LOCKS. Go try to find it if u want in our archives, it should only take u a freakin year to find it!!! There r a lot of post in here, sometimes its hard to keep up with all the arguing!

Worker bee- u got me all excited now!

Zeke- that was a cool contribution! I'm a sucker for Tom Saywer

Good night Baton Rouge

Name: Stetson
Folks are in a line around the block

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 23:04:38

Anyone think the new look of the official site was changed to coincide with the design of the cd package? The full title: Two Spools of Thread Against Nature.

Name: Stetson
Here at the Custerdome

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 22:49:05

Folks are just getting cocky, what with a new record coming out and all. Only happens every nineteen years. And, well, even some more shows. I say, let 'em vent. Just mind your manners. Now, serve me up another Sasparilli, please.

Name: TheStranger
reelin' in the beers

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 22:15:48

geena? geena who?
nah, just kidding. sure you're a prized squeeze in the harem. come to think of it, i'm not sure i trust those eunuchs anymore. sure they don't try anything while i'm out? actually, i specified rose darling & oleander cause they keep squabbling, which i think may be what triggered some sick, chormosome-challenged shitheads who then verbally lashed out at one or both of them, but then i can't be sure cause i'm on my second drink, which sets me back from peak coherence.

anyway, indications from the official site, which i checked today, seem to point toward an actual cd of new material coming out this summer. now i'm getting worried whether the boys still have the right stuff after all these years. but i'll be pulling for them.

incidentlly, i also haven't the slightest idea who the dan session men are. not bragging, just making a statement. does this mean i have to turn in my yo-yo badge?

Name: FiveNames
@I Never Seen You Looking So Bad, My Funky One

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 21:19:40

First off, while I recognize that this is a forum to exchange views - however vitriolic they may be, I am amazed that people talk to one another the way many of you do here. While I am certainly not a regular poster, rest assured that I am lurking here in the background, and I am dismayed to see the direction we've gone of late.

I realize that it may be only a few who have incited all this verbal violence, but that's usually how it starts. And as more and more rush to defend their positions and that of their allies,
those of us outside the ever-widening circle of rage forget what it was that started the whole thing.

It's so much easier, on the psyche - and on the keyboard - to let it go. But I've come to the realization that in some respects, this cyber-world mirrors our own, and pride rears it's ugly head here, too, more often than not. What a waste of aggregate intellect.

Name: bert
Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 21:00:06

The other morning I was waiting on hold, and was treated to the most bizarre Muzak version of a tune I had ever heard: The Fez !!

Name: Geena
my canines are showing

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 20:40:32

It's school vacation week and I'm back, at least for a little while. Thanks to all those who wished me well on my last visit here. Once again, I see nothing has changed. There are still a few jellyfish here who have nothing else better to do than to call women derogatory names.

I want to know what was so intellectual about Intellectual Poser's post? You sound like a total idiot to me. You had nothing intellectual to say except only what a pimple-faced high school boy would say, and some of them are more intelligent than you.

In defense of Rose Darling and some other women who post here, why is it that when a woman speaks her mind, she is automatically called a bitch or a cunt or is in need of "a good bang"? Do some men have to stoop that low to let a woman know that she is outsmarting them? What happened to intelligent conversation? What happened to respect? What are men called who speak their minds? I have to say the majority of the men who post here are downright decent. I have a lot of respect for those who came to Rose's defense, but you IP, have a lot of growing up to do. You have shown your ignorance and you, as well as some others have shown us what dweebs you really are. It seems you're the ones in need of a little class, re-read your post and see what morons you sound like. Oh, I see when you can't think of anything intelligent to say, you resort to genitalia, gee, that's really funny, ha ha.

Rosie: I loved your post girl! I'm glad you're not leaving because of a few juvenile anons who prefer to be cowards. I know they have mothers because that's where they came from, but wives or girlfriends? I doubt they even exist in their lives, who would want them?
A man who occasionally posts here and whom I have come to adore and respect as a friend once wrote to me and explained how some men think about women who like Steely Dan. Because Steely Dan is a name given to a sex toy, some men automatically assume those women who like the music of Steely Dan must be bimbos. Don't lose your nerve girl and be as gutsy as you want, it's what makes you who are you are and we love you for it.

I hate to repeat myself but I've worked with a lot of musicians in my lifetime, most of them very well known. I never discussed anything musically with them because I knew how much it bored them and also, I'm not a musician. I mean this was their job for over 12 hours a day, I wouldn't want to talk music after working at my job all day either. I admit I don't know who half the musicians behind Steely Dan are except for the well-known ones and those I've learned about here and I don't get excited about them. I don't get into interpreting lyrics either because it's not something I do well. I like what I hear and I just like the music they make. I also like to talk to others who appreciate SD as much as I do. I usually like the music more than the lyrics, but with SD I like both and that's what's so special about them. I don't see anything wrong with that.

M. Packard: Now wait a minute here, I get your point about people kissing in public, etc. and I think love is a beautiful thing, but overkill is something else. I also happen to like mowing the lawn. My lawn is slanted and it's a wonderful workout for my arms and the back of my legs, and I can do it better than my husband! As soon as I find Rosie V. it will be shipped out to you, haven't found the time to do much lately. I haven't forgotten you.

Stranger: Am I not included in your harem anymore or have I been promoted to main squeeze status without my knowing?

Razor: Thank you for showing IP and NP what a "real" man is, and the same also goes for Stranger and Michael.

So anymore news on the new album?

Name: TheKatyDanFan
"...this dream's in sight, you've got to admit it..."

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 20:36:53

Welcome, Maxine........"not I," said KatyDanFan!

Josie: Hi, sis!.....actually Rose and I have no band wagon, lol. And I don't jump on any of those with someone, I just know I'd fall off before I got my balance. The only bandwagon I would like to jump on would be a DanBandWagon, to get up there and sing harmony or dance!
No, I simply sensed Rose's frustration and I believe hurt at feeling judged somehow as not being a true fan. Hurt and frustration often tumble out as anger, and of course Rose is not the only one in here who has posted with that combination of feelings after reading certain comments by others. We can all learn from Ole's response----she knew Rose would feel better just having gotten it out in the open, and she dealt with it in a way that didn't escalate it-----in my opinion a very wise choice and not always an easy thing to do. (We have plenty of other stuff we can escalate that is much more fun!)

HoopsMcain: Welcome, many have said they love this site. And we are die hards. Each of us was given nine lives before we came in here. I'm happy to report I still have all of mine.

Willie.....yes, you made me really laugh, but Willie....this is why I give my sister that certain side glance when she wonders why I'm not crazy about CW music!

Fezo: Are you serious? Walter reads selected e-mail? What's to stop us from putting together the Best of the GB and trying to get a reading on it?

LTNF: I think some of us could manage to say in person what we've said here. Anyway, when I post in here, I do keep in mind you are all "real people." In fact, you guys are the only ones I could say this stuff to! I liked your summary of the day, lol. You should do that more often, as a free service to the GB.

RazorBoy: I have spent many summer vacations in Canada. I like the people there and the national anthem, I just wanted you to know!

Stranger: Your post was sweet and sensitive. (Don't worry, I bet even Don and Walt have moments like that!) I have heard a few in here mention Charles Brown (though I forgot the other comments at the moment). He must be good; sometimes I know a musician's music but not his name. Have to check that out.

El Supremo: (Are you going to the record store anytime soon? Hint, hint!) "Tonight the night is mine..." ILYM!

Just Katy :)

Name: oleander
heart sounds

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 20:33:28

Worker Bee, Dangerous Demo, Jokah, Willie, & Nature Boy--thanx for helping make this one of the funniest GB weeks I can remember.

The other funniest thing this week was seeing a Mercedes with the license plate "AMENDS."

Stranger--Being on your list is on my list of the best things in life.


Home--welcome. Maxine too, though someone used that name a long time ago... but nobody can tell you what to call yourself.

El Sup II--That's interesting. This happened once before to me; I was daydreaming for a week or so about someone's comment that "Razor Boy" was actually about a sex change operation, and was just about to post that when someone, Mr. LaPage I believe, did the same. Since you mentioned funerals, I've been meaning lately to ask: If we could choose a Steely quote for our epitaph, what would it be? I know what I'd pick, but I'll wait. Hint: "Deacon Blues" is full of great ones.

Name: mmmm

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 20:24:46


Name: Maxine
Trying to hang on

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 17:58:11

Hello everyone!

I am new. Does anyone post with this name already, or may I?

Name: Country Boy
Pennsylvania Avenue, DC

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 14:53:45

tole ya i'd get away with it. cause them republican managers are even dumber than i am.

Name: TheStranger
raining in L.A.

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 14:46:15

rose darling,
i love women and i love smart women best of all, which means you and oleander are both on my list of terrific women. there's nothing i can do about assholes who respond to you with crude sexual references because they are creeps who hide behind nerdspace. when normal males on this gbook are silent about these shitheads i believe many of us are just hoping they will go away because responding to them just encourages them.

that list of c & w songs was terrific. thanks for making me laugh.

cd reommendation: charles brown, so goes love (ultra-good blues. i am not even a blues fan, but this guy is the best)

where's kinky? siddown, kinky. make yourself at home. insult somebody.

Name: Razor Boy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 14:41:00

At the risk of getting into a pissing contest, whoever you are "Oh Canada" is that some kind of pseudonym that you go under instead of your regular "handle?" And don't attempt to interpet Steely Dan's lyrics to make a point with me about mindless vulgarity on this guest book. Steely Dan weaves sexual connotations with music and prose that most of us could never employ. Do you sign in under someone else, and if you do, have the guts to use it. The country I live in has nothing to do with whatI post in this forum.


Name: Discman

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 14:35:20

At Burger King during today, barely audible over the hum of the lunch time rush, I detected the trademark Fagen whine as only a true dan-o-phile would under such conditions. Could it possibly be Confide in Me? Turned out to be Green Flower Street.

Name: Worker Bee #7438-F87904
hive no. 35659

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 12:01:53


Dear Worker Bee #7438-F87904:
My husband and I split up last year after 11 years of marriage. We're still good friends, and we even go out for coffee once a
week. Problem is, lately, he's been seeing a new person, someone I feel is definitely not right for him. Should I say anything? I'm
not jealous--I know I wasn't right for him, either. What's my move?
--Protective In Pensacola

Dear Pensacola,
Enable protocol "seek POLLEN"/Must harvest POLLEN for HIVE/feed LARVAE/feed QUEEN/feed DRONES/feed
WORKERS/superseding priority: Feed QUEEN/standby to receive POLLEN-search-behavior-inducing chemicals/ search
outside hive in precise searching-pattern (west-southwest forward 400 meters turn 15 degrees west [daylight hours only to find
flowering plants] (repeat pattern as necessary)/locate and fix position of POLLEN/rub sacs on legs against stamen against pistil
against all parts of flowering plant to obtain POLLEN/must find POLLEN/finding POLLEN primary purpose of BEE
(WORKER) #7438-F87904/awaiting query/awaiting query.

Name: Zeke
living in an on-hold society, the on-hold generation

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 11:38:54

What great looking day in the Big Easy! Bright and sunny, nice East winds @ 3mph, 74 deg., convertible tops down, what every Sunday should be like, very kewel.

Today I'm listening to one of my favorite non-steely CD's,
Rush, Moving Pictures. Red Barchetta is the 2nd coolest song in the Universe.

My boss' son was here yesterday. Nice kid, his school is planning a time capsule and everyone in the office HAD to contribute something to his cause. My contribution, Steely Dan
Aja LP.

The Jazz Fest line up will be announced soon. Mardi Gras in a week or so.

I've been thinking of an opening act for the new tour. Any thoughts on who would fit? Man, that's a heavy question. I'm thinking about bringing Don and Walt on stage @ about 10:30pm and going at it for 2 hrs. Oh yea, I can see it now!!

Name: dangerous democrat

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 11:27:38

There's been a dearth of political commentary around here lately.. so here's an observation by a former Saturday Night Live great:

     "Impeachment trial prosecutors want to call Vernon Jordan,
      Sidney Blumenthal and Monica Lewinsky to testify in the
      Senate chamber. The senators said they wanted to call a
      black, a Jew and a woman just to see what they look like."

                                       -- Dennis Miller


ps. The New Orleans sked should be coming down soon.

Name: Lester the Dirtybird
@a wing and a thigh

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 11:15:19

I'm just glad to see that I'm not the one causing all the ruckus this time in here! Does anyone realize that what is said in here would never ever be said right to your face by anyone in here.
So to get upset over it(I'm not naming names) really is kinda silly. I dont think anyone in here can really be that mean and thoughtless in person. "Wait dont quote me, I'm not in New Orleans yet!"

Rose- I think maybe u take what people say in here too much to heart and I think they r just eggin u on to see how far they can take it and to see what kind of reaction you'll give. I think the best thing to do is just ingnore it, that way it will look like it dont bother u and it would eventually end all together.
*I hope u understand I'm on your side on this one, if it looks like i'm pickin on u and not tring to give u advise then read it again, please! We've had this misunderstanding before remember?*

Canada- U make like no point what so ever, just shut up! lol!

Willie- Thanx for the song ideas, I'm gonna write me a few tunes now. Funny stuff!

Thursday summary:
Number of Post= 14
Number of Post having to do with Steely Dan= 5
Percentage of Post having to do with SD= 35.71%

Cost of a Computer-$1200
Cost of monthly internet access to this guestbook-$20
Rose Darling kicking some guestbook ass- priceless!!!


p.s. steely dan 8=====O

Name: JoKeR
to quote MTV

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 10:40:11

BIG FAN: thanks for this tidbit! I guess gangsta rap figures that if Sting can sell out and play the singing monkey, two washed-up old white guys would jump at the chance.....


4.2.98 10:15 EDT
Reeling In The Dough: Tariq And Gunz On Steely Dan

Lord Tariq and Peter Gunz have one of the hottest singles in the country right now with "Deja Vu" [900k QuickTime], a tribute of sorts to their home borough of the Bronx -- even though the video was shot at Shea Stadium in Queens. But the track is receiving a lion share of it's attention because of a riff sampled from the classic Steely Dan song, "Black Cow."

In the past, Steely Dan's Walter Becker and Donald Fagen made rappers De La Soul pay dearly for the sampled use of Dan's "Peg" in their 1990 hit, "Eye Know," and Tariq and Gunz have had to pony up as well for the use of "Black Cow -- to the tune of $105,000, some seven or eight times the typical industry rate.

But while the sample has created a major buzz around Tariq and Gunz, the two told MTV News that it's also soured their feelings towards Steely Dan, who, according to Tariq and Gunz, have shunned working with the duo.

"I wanted to do something on 'MTV Live' with Steely Dan," Gunz said. "[They would] come out and do 'Black Cow' and then we bust into the "Deja Vu" thing. They won't even, you know? I knew they were recording in this studio, I go by the studio, you know? They're not here. So they won't even return our calls or nothing, so I threw all my Steely Dan CDs out."

No comment yet from Steely Dan's Becker and Fagen.

Tariq and Gunz will release their debut album, "Make It Reign," on May 26.

Name: OH Canada
home of the stupid

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 10:32:12

Razor Boy- Piss off! Inellectual Poser did a fine job putting RD in her place. All you do is come on here and give false information anyway. How does saying "Put a dick in Rose Darlings mouth" have nothing to do with Steely Dan? You just don't get it.

Name: George

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 10:03:59

Big Fan- The MTV link is not working for me. What story are you talking about?

Name: Razor Boy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 09:30:22

Intellectual Poser - If you've been offended by what Rose Darling or anyone else says about you, do it with a bit of class and tact, since using some sort of sexual reference only makes you appear like you can't deal with these issues rationally. Come in here with something that has something to do with Steely Dan, or stay out.


Name: fezo
charming? He does?

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 08:16:44

Review of the official site from latest issue of Entertainment Weekly:

"Donald Fagen and Walter Becker mastermind a charming, irreverent site. Becker answers selected e-mail, too"

Name: Willin' Willie
trashed my tractor trailer

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 07:02:54

Actual Country and Western Song Titles

1.) Her Teeth Was Stained, But Her Heart Was Pure
2.) How Can I Miss You, If You Won't Go Away?
3.) Get Your Biscuits In The Oven, And Your Buns In Bed
4.) Get Your Tongue Outta My Mouth, 'Cause I'm Kissing You Goodbye
5.) I Can't Get Over You, So Why Don't You Get Under Me?
6.) I Don't Know Whether To Kill Myself, Or Go Bowling
7.) She Got The Ring and I Got The Finger
8.) You're The Reason Our Kids Are So Ugly
9.) I Just Bought A Car From A Guy That Stole My Girl,
But The Car Don't Run, So I Figure We Got An Even Deal
10.) I Keep Forgettin' I Forgot About You
11.) I Liked You Better, Before I Knew You So Well
12.) I Still Miss You Baby, But My Aim's Gettin' Better
13.) I Wouldn't Take Her To A Dog Fight, Cause I'm Afraid She'd Win
14.) I'll Marry You Tomorrow, But Let's Honeymoon Tonite
15.) I'm So Miserable Without You, It's Like Having You Here
16.) Please Bypass this Heart?
17.) If I Had Shot You When I Wanted To, I'd Be Out By Now
18.) Mama Get A Hammer (There's A Fly On Papa's Head)
19.) My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, And I Don't Love Jesus
20.) My Wife Ran Off With My Best Friend, and I Sure Do Miss Him
21.) She Got the Mine, and I Got the Shaft
22.) The Weather is Here, I Wish You Were Beautiful
23.) If the Phone Doesn't Ring It's Me
24.) She's Going Out of My Mind

Name: Hoops Mcain

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 06:02:23

Hey Dan Fans,
Just found this site,I love it. Some real die hard Dan Fans. Well just thought I would say Hello...Hello! Goodbye.

Name: JosieDanFan
the girls don't seem to care...

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 05:44:34

Hey Dan fans,
I don't want to seem like I'm jumping on my sister and Roses' bandwagon (if there is one)but all the things some of the "no-named" poster are saying is just ridiculous. What, you can't handle a smart, funny, and saavy woman? Rose maybe a little brash at times, but she has never been crude, obnoxious, or just plain mean and I must say I admire her for it. I also think that what is misconstrude as rudeness is her ability to say what she means on no uncertain terms, I like that also, and appreciate it.

so Rose, I know we don't talk much. But I want to let you know I love your posts, and I think your a remarkable person. I hope you stay to post for a very long time to come. I remember when I first posted here I unknowingly used your handle. You let me know it quite an entertaining way that this was not acceptable. if you really were a "bitch" or a "cunt" towards me I don't think I would be posting in your defense now. Just remember, the DanFan sisters are always in your corner.

I agree with Katy and Rose about the critertia for being a DanFan. I thought it was just loving the music? I don't play the chords, I don't know every musician they ever played with or even thought of playing with. I do however find the conversations held in this forum about that very intersting and very valid. To each his own I guess. My way of being a dan fan is different that anyone elses. I know I love the music, I live for it, and can't live without it. And for me knowing every little detail about every little thing pertaining to the songs would ruin the magic I get from them.
We all are passionate about Steely Dan, and I think we want to be able to show other what we get from them, causing some of us to also get carried away, and name call if someone doesn't agree. Forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm sure I'll get hell about this later if I am. Go ahead though, I can't be too upset by things people have said that I've never seen before, and probably never will.
I don't think it's anyones place to tell anyone else how to listen to Steely Dan, or that they aren't a Fan enough to be worthy of listening to them, it just isn't right.
Thanks for reading...


Name: Big Fan

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 05:39:38

With all of the good vibes here recently, I thought all of you might enjoy this link concerning our heros and their relationship to others in the industry. I now would have to agree that the bickering here is normal, and would be approved by them.

Name: oleander
Wow! I feel smarter already!

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 04:54:52

maj--My cup runneth over!

Name: bebe bozorack

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 02:10:28

here is how dream warrior of burma interpret new steely dan song:

The fashion is. The fashion was. I create a raven to follow the dove. My bird and yours in a Buckyball tree. The two get along and that's alright with me. Two against nature.

Maybe when the waters still and the olive leaf reappears on the hill and the dove and raven eat their fill then maybe, just maybe, they can throw a feather in the till and dare us to fly too.

Us too, against nature.

Wendy, baby. You're a storm child after all. After all the spear shaking you're still the wildest girl of all. Like the oil of lighter fluid suspended in vasoline. Martha Stewart torched your house with a flint from Heloise.

Two alarms. No harm. I'll abandon the burning tree.
Two against nature. And baby makes three.

that is how my dream said it.

Name: Peter North
Love just might be a game for three.

Date: Friday, February 5, 1999 at 01:00:27

Looks like it's time for me to work a 3-way with Rose and Ole. That should solve everything.

Michael: You're welcome to join in any time, brother.

By the way, I imagine Rose can still post with a dick in her mouth.

Sending my love via airmail,

Name: willie the hand jive
dirty bird

Date: Thursday, February 4, 1999 at 23:31:17

I see that Rose Darlin is still taking herself way to serious. haven`t posted in a month ,and she`s still swaking. I think Eugene Robinson should pay her a visit, and she should give him 40 bucks!!!!

Name: TheKatyDanFan
..Suddenly the music hits you.....

Date: Thursday, February 4, 1999 at 21:02:00

RoseDarling: I'd never scroll past a post of yours! It takes some class and courage to offer any kind of apology in here, just as it does in real life. And I agree, Ole has shown a lot of class to have kept things low key. Loved your reference to Stranger's well-placed comment, Ole.

Joker: lol....clapping my hands, of course

Home at Last: One of my "bestest" favorites, that song! Oh but I do care what you think, and I thank you for that very gracious compliment. :) Keep visiting and I'll keep writing!

O Michael: Well, it's obvious to me you are all guy! And that's the second time you wondered when El Supremo is going away, are you thinking of being my sitter while he's gone??

RazorBoy: I don't know, every time we think we'll try to use those sensible ideas like tolerance in here, something just doesn't fit about it. I do wonder what it is. It might be an intolerance for boredom or something. Anyway, I liked your suggestion of what to discuss------I recently discovered how well the horns and the guitar fit together in Pretzel Logic, I don't know how I missed that for so long. I love that. And two of the absolute best dancing work-out songs are Parker's Band and My Old School, of course. But the best and sweetest calypso dancing song is Brooklyn.

El Supremo: Umm.....maybe we should say you're the infrequent poster? Just so they know I do post often? I refuse to think about your funeral, ES. (My big debut, lol, I caught that.....ILY!)

Just Katy :)

Name: Rose
Location: please, stop posting
Date: Thursday, February 4, 1999 at 19:03:13

on this GB.



Date: Thursday, February 4, 1999 at 18:59:42

Name: DrMu

Date: Thursday, February 4, 1999 at 18:27:52

Four Eyes: Cool pic shot. Hey, there's Joe Sample above Julio - way cool.

Steve V. Man, I haven't seen a Deodato album since I last saw a bong! I do remember an apparition - those wild jungle covers!...don't remember the much about the music, except it was melllllooowww (was there some vibrating bass and the swirling keyboards like a combo of Gaucho and Weather Report??)...musta been drowned out by the sound of the chips I was munching on...those hazy, lazy, crazy daze.

Name: Michael C. Packard
Location: Middle 70's and sunshiny in the Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas today, USA
Date: Thursday, February 4, 1999 at 16:43:31

Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!

Interesting posts on the GB, since my last visit. It seems as if most of the anonymous posters can't understand plain ol' common sense English. Anyway, your "cuts" as to my sexual preference happens to be incorrect.

Since I DO (and always have) given you my email, noone really contacts me with the derogatory bullshit comments. Therefore, I am "with" one of the other GB'ers, RoseDarling, about the name-calling, etc.

Right now, I am listening to Donald Fagen's "Nightfly" album, one of my favorites overall.

From childhood, I always remember the saying "stick and stones . . ." statements from people. In reality, I am glad you say what you want to say here, regardless if it is interpreted as "freedom of speech" or, "fairness of speech".

Since those of you who have followed my past posts from about three years now, know I am truthful about all of the bullshit happenings in my life. From the grocery store "no teeth, why don't you kill deer" young lady to the luscious Filipinas at the Nipa Hut bar when Dad and I (when the band abandoned us) played Steely Dan songs with the guest American GI's.

Anyway, I am thankful I have always been heterosexual, never had a homosexual experience, and thankful for it. Most of you might interpret this as "well, he ain't experienced life, until he has had one". Well, forget it!!

Back to Walter and Donald, thank God we have something to talk about in here, since hardly anyone is ever in the ParaChat room. As to Walt and Don, they are interesting people, different, musical prodigies, and value their privacy, as much as I do.

As for my intelligence, well I do have ol' fashioned common sense, with several education degrees. So, "Mexico City, is like another world, nice this year they say. You'll be my senorita . . ."

So, my DanFriends, listen to the music, enjoy, love life, don't overindulge, and remember----I do respect all of you, even those who are cutthroat backstabbers!!!

Get-A-Life, if you ain't got one.

JustKaty, let me know when your husband, El Supremo goes out-of-town, again!

Oleander, keep it up with your excellent lyric site.

Schwinn, hope Austin's weather is as nice as it is here.


(Let's Start Being Positive With Our Commonality Of Being Lovers Of Steely Dan Music, Gang)

; )

Name: Rose Darling

Date: Thursday, February 4, 1999 at 15:24:35


TO ALL who care: SORRY for my big mouthness at times. But those of you with brains know what I say pales in negativity next to the often nasty flames and retorts that way outdo anything I post.
But for some reason, maybe what I say actually hits a nerve, and it seems like I'm the bad guy, while the rest of the time the nasty coward anonymous flamers just get laughed off.

However, calling me a cunt or whatever nasty word you want to come up with is not going to censor my mind or posts, sorry hostile fellas who-know-who-they-are-out-there. Maybe it works with women you know in person but here in cyberspace, it's a wimpy, unimpressive attempt to silence me and it won't work. You just keep on thinking that any woman who has opinions that don't have a lipstick smile on them needs to be fucked to cure that. Your girlfriends/wives (HA ! if you have any) must have a lot of fun discussing things with you that don't suit you. Probably doesn't happen much, does it?
And I know it's guys who are putting me down because I haven't seen the women of this book need to resort to foul sexist language, mostly.

I notice guys don't get called cunts when they yap and yap.
And you sexist fellas seem to deliberately leave oleander alone probably because she posts so succinctly it's the proper amount for your misogynist minds to handle. Although there is nothing wrong with succintness itself. God love it if I possessed such a quality myself.

But then some of the guys around here really do think they own the place and that all us females are just bimbos, so what should I expect?

to oleander:
I AM sorry for the bitchiness. I am not sorry that I think it's ballsy nervy when people decide who belongs here, what they should say, and who is a "true" Dan fan or not. I'm not daring you into some sort of catfight. Part of me said what I said because you seem lucky enough to be exempt from flaming around here, hence therefore I sense that's why it may be easier for you to avidly support the right to do so.
You may respond publicly or email me if you want. I'm done with the subject unless you wanna add to it.
You DO have a lot of class for resisting the temptation to chew me out in return immediately, and I respect that.

Katy Dan Fan:
Thanks for the kind words. You are a sweet human being.

Name: Who Cares Anymore ?

Date: Thursday, February 4, 1999 at 15:18:06

"Show Biz kids makin' movies of themselves......"

oh, also

"hot licks & RHETORIC don't count much for nothin'...........

Read the words of your mentors and, well....think about them.

The Observer

Name: Charles Mingus

Date: Thursday, February 4, 1999 at 11:57:52

Ah Um

Name: Intellectual Poser

Date: Thursday, February 4, 1999 at 11:18:01

Will someone stick a dick in Rose Darling's mouth and shut her the fuck up please? I just read that she won't be counted among the gathering "true" Danfans in New Orleans. In light of this shocking development, I think it'd be best to call the whole thing off. After all, meeting her was the only reason *I* was going.

And by the way, (r)Hoser Darling-- You are challenging alright. But only in the sense that it'd be difficult to find a more venomous, uptight and in-need-of-a-good-bang [bitch/cunt/OR insert slander of choice here] than you.

I'm going to smoke one of my Daddy's cigarettes now and you can't come!

Oleander-- way to go on your refusal to publicly slay the dragon. You outclass her by a miracle mile.

Name: Steve O'
on the train to work

Date: Thursday, February 4, 1999 at 10:15:37

five days 'til my first vacation since '97!!!!

found an old compilation tape...listened too on my cheap little Aiwa walkman.....Steely Dan (1971-74):
Midnite Cruiser
With Gun
Pretzel Logic
You Gotta Walk It/w reprise
Reeling In The Years
Dirty Work
Do It Again

all off of vinyl on a sturdy maxell recorded circa 1988....can I make a great compilation or what????!!

Name: jokeR
i like to pose my action figures intellectually

Date: Thursday, February 4, 1999 at 06:36:38

look, Rose, you can at least play some mu chords with rubber bands, cantcha? I'd hate to have to report you to the Board of SDFan Certification...

c'mon, now, let's all sing!

If you're a DanFan and you know it, clap yer hands

If you're a DanFan and you know it, clap yer hands
|clap | clap |

If you're a DanFan and you know it, then your posts will surely show it

If you're a DanFan and you know it, clap yer hands

thankyooverymuch, i'll be here all week -
hey, gimme a break, that was FUNNY! {gRin] --tough room.......

Name: Home
Location: Mtl, WayUpThere
Date: Thursday, February 4, 1999 at 05:58:42

I haven't been to the GB in almost a year.
Last time i was here, there was this very intellectual debate about child pornography ; i bitched about it ; was told that if i didn't like not to come in...

You know why i'm back (duh!)...reading thru some archives, and recent posts, things seem to be fun around here again.

Why do you suppose that is ?

Katy : you probably don't care, but i love your prose and the way you think.

Name: El Supremo
this is your big
Date: Thursday, February 4, 1999 at 02:27:05

Hello, DanFanDom!

Just wanting you to know I am still alive, much to the disgust of some of you, I am sure.

Anyway, anxious for beating up those people in line in front of me when I go to the record store to pick up the new Steely Dan "singles" from "Two Against Nature".

In fact, "Two Against Nature" sounds like a good title for my wife and me on our infrequent GB posts!

I have often thought of what songs "they" should play at my funeral, which will include "Deacon Blues", and some others.

Any of you ever had the same thoughts??


JustKaty, wife-for-life,

Definitely Now and Always,

Your Husband,


Name: NP

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 22:53:43

Rose Darling - Why are you such an angry women?


Name: Nature Boy

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 22:45:06


I'm pleased to announce a new service here on the GB: Two Against Nature Boy.

Here's how it works. I'm Nature Boy and you are against me.

For example, let's say you're Walter Becker. Here's something 'ol Walt might throw my way: "Hey Nature Boy. I read your post and you are a bastard." See? It's fun and easy!

Now it's your turn. Just keep in mind I can spit volcanic ash two thousand miles and bury your Volvo if I want.

Imbued With the Best of Darwin,

Nature Boy

Name: She's

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 22:34:31

frozen fire...

Name: oleander

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 22:04:25

fezo--I'm in trouble. I don't think I can count my pennies that fast.

Herm--This morning, "Any World That I'm Welcome To."

Jokah--They get better & better.

Mu--What a great lexicon. You could do a rewrite of "On Beyond Zebra."

Rose--Feel better now? Tell you what, though the Stranger is chewing on his towel in anticipation, I think this kind of thing is unseemly. If you'd like to have it out with me for some reason, please e me. If you don't, then I'll assume you're daring me to respond in public, which is, well, I'll go into it if you e me.

Name: Razor Boy
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 22:00:00

Can't we all just get along? Love the words and the music, be true to your reasons why DF & WB et al inspire you to come into the GB and wax poetic/vent, whatever. Tolerance towards why we are drawn together to this site should be our goal. People's opinions are what matter, not whether we like or dislike, approve or disapprove of why we listen to SD, and how it is expressed. I want to know why certain people dig certain songs,instrumentation, lyrics etc. Being clever is best when it is being positive, not as a tool to ridicule someone else.


Name: les

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 21:55:53

"Take the coke Hymie" I want pepsi!!!

Name: DrMu

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 18:43:47

Hey Dr. Mu, check out this site:

Name: TheKatyDanFan
to RoseDarling, Part II

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 18:20:02

(I didn't hit submit, I don't know how my post left me before I was finished! lol)

Anyway, Rose Darling, you need to stay here, and so do all of us. Your posts add a flavor I would surely miss! In fact, unless others post under many names, I'm amazed at how many people do post here. The DanInfluence is widespread!

I will finish this to keep it with the other post, hopefully.

Who knows, RoseDarling, maybe El Supremo will get back in here too. Just Katy would love that!

That's all folks!

Just Katy :)

Name: TheKatyDanFan
throwing in my 2 cents against nature, as always

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 18:10:46

RoseDarling: I read your post and appreciated your honesty. It is tempting to feel I don't "belong" here because I don't have a history of studying the lyrics, playing the music, or following every move SD has made, will make, and might make in the future. I don't know the backgrounds or present-day doings of the musicians who played with them over the years. I feel so ignorant (mainly because I am!) when certain things are discussed and I sometimes wonder, what am I doing here, I have nothing to contribute.

Still, I know there is room for all of us in here, Somehow each of us adds to the enjoyment, the craziness, the thread that weaves through here like part of a beautiful tapestry one day and a tattered garment the next. There is that pressure to not be too obviously soft, sensitive, caring, or vulnerable, but that's ok, that reflects the real world, too.

The main thing to me, is, we ALL LOVE THE DAN. Some of us may not have certain kinds of knowledge yet or ever, but.....their music fulfills something within each of us, and there would be a void there without the Dan to fill it. What is it? Even we can't explain it, but it surely has something to do with the melodies, the lyrics, reaching deep inside us, satisfying something about this human condition in which we find ourselves. We can learn from those who know more, and enjoy each other's company while we're learning. And any of us can and should share our own experience of how SD adds to our lives.

As far as the criticism, outright or more subtle, I think we have a bunch of sharp, witty folks in here who can wreak havoc with their verbal facility any day of the week; we're impulsive, quick on the draw, we enjoy standing up for ourselves, we love to tease, and sometimes I see us as just throwing out one variety of brainteaser after another, for days on end. (Some of them I don't even understand, yet I sense the intent and I'm certain I respond with the appropriate smile, laugh, or groan the poster was after at the time.)

Name: TheStranger
splatter me, i don't mind

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 17:35:10

rose darling, oleander,
it's kind of sexy when girls fight. do you mind moving everything over to this mud wrestling pit at the end of the bar?

Name: TheStranger
confused-vocabulary politically correct police

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 17:32:19

Dr. Mu,
Did you just say niggardly? You'll never work in this town again.

Name: Rose Darling

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 16:40:47

to oleander continued:

I also find myself apparently unwittingly challenging and perhaps stretching the minds of those who subscribe to limitations, limited definitions, and therefore limited understanding.

In that regard, you've obviously mistaken the true object of my disdain, which you should be able to figure out by now is not intended to be Dias.
Now, your comment about fair vs. free speech eludes me somewhat. But then again, your defense of free speech generally includes defending and even deifying the right to post as arrogant and mean, for variety's sake, so you must like my free as opposed to fair speech today then?

I appreciate your supportive post about the nasty name I was called. Might you be revising your confines of what is free speech, by expressing such uncharacteristic vehement disapproval of the "misogynist pig's asshole for whom there is no excuse?" (Yeah, right !)

The reiterated accusation I've seen over time is that I am not qualified to be a "true" Dan Fan. So maybe, St. Al, you've also got the rules to post from the Idiot's Guide to Being A True Dan Fan ? About meeting Dan fans, some days I am not so sure it's a worthwhile experiment and feel a whole lot better just going back to my Dan cd's, saying to myself, who needs this alleged camaraderie anyway? One thing I have never ever "given a rat's ass" about is peer pressure and I'm not about to start. And you Guestbookers show your oh so human tendencies, surfacing from below cynical facades, when you gotta drag that out to test me and see if I care about fitting in for your liking !
Oh well, it proves there is some humanity behind the intellectual posing after all.
Say, if I won't go with you into the woods and smoke your daddy's cigarettes, I guess we can't be friends then either?

HOLY COW I don't play chords from Dan songs on any instrument, better throw me out now !

To Edd: Ah, you are an example in terseness and relativity.
A shining example to me of what it would be like if I chose to shut the hell up for a few minutes.

That was supposed to be a hello to Roland Oswold !

Name: Rose Darling

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 15:54:08

The problem is not spending too much time posting, but not having enough time to post. Life is good, but gets in the way sometimes of the Steely Dan Happy Hour. Heck, I never even get time to check out the home page here.
Jeez ! Okay, now I'm caught up again. Thanks to Peg for the safe return of the missing posts.

SEMB (Still Eliciting My Blushing) I never knew you felt that way about me. You put a smile on my face !

Roland Oswold

Friends? Hmmm, I'll have to reconsider. Let's just say uneasy comrades for now then...

Clas, I never did get to extend my sympathy to you over the loss of Nisse but I'm doing it now. 18 years is a good long kitty life !

Ruby Baby:
Why, my dear, are you the Owner of a Lonely Heart these days?

You've taken what I said way too seriously. But that is the tendency of members of I- Know- What- It- Is- To- Be- A- True- Dan- Fan- Superiority- Complex- Elite.
I do give a rat's ass about the Dan, but I'll do it in the way I want to and no one is going to dictate to me what and which details, measures of songs, studio musicians, collaborators, obscure articles, etc. etc. I need to care about every minute of the day to prove it. That was my original flippant point to the Newbie Police, who foisted not only upon me, but everyone here, his/its/whatever arrogant opinion that we ALL supposedly don't care enough about Dias or the Dan for NP's liking.
I basically post here to meet and learn more about Dan fans, and also enjoy learning tidbits about the Dan and what they're up to these days and in the future.

Name: steve
@final jeopardy

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 15:36:30

re: Bill Lee-----was also the pen name for Burroughs for his first novel 'Junkie' (circa 1952).....also the name of a left-handed pitcher for the Red Sox and Expos.....

also : latest musician death- Julius Wechter , author of 'The Spanish Flea' ex-Tijuana Brass/Baja Marimba Band...died 2/1/99...

Name: Steve V.Dan (MR. whatever..)
@Jazz Fusion etc

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 15:31:02

....Dr. Mu- re: Tony LiPuma.....I've been listening lately to a 1978 album by Deodato-'Love Island'.....produced by LiPuma...great guitar work from Larry Carlton and George is a Warner Brothers release but unfortunately never issued on cd.....Deodato always had a Steely Dan-ish sound, namely because he was using a lot of the same guys (his 1975 album even featured Elliot Randall!)......but I digress.......

Gig Location request for Steely Dan autumn tour: Yoshi's in downtown Oakland.....small, hip jazz club...close enough for us to politely request particular songs..

Name: fezo

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 15:29:49

Nightfly: Only in my dreams am I in Miami

Ole: yes

Whoever asked: My producer of the year choice is more of a lifetime achievement award. I select: Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.

Original members of The Time before getting kicked out by Prince, the two have a long track record of reviving stifled or pop-laden careers with their crisp production techniques. Their best work has been in the r @ b area with artists like Janet Jackson and Babyface, but they've also done impressive work with Eurogroups like Human League.

Name: Jack O'Speed

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 15:18:28

I'm WASTED!!! Happy Birthday!!!!

Name: Four Eyes
Oh Yeah

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 13:47:46

Dr. Mu, It's funny you were talking about Julio Fernandez. I just came back from and saw a picture of Julio hanging out with our very own Drew Zing. I've heard him on CD and he sounds real nice.

As far as producer of the year, my guess would be Don Was (sp)

Name: DrMu
µ's all blµes

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 12:46:51

Question: Our local NPR station was playing there niggardly 2 hour allotment of jazz/big band/fusion in the afternoon yesterday. In the background I noticed some understated Larry Carlton - like guitar licks. It waws from a recent Spyro Gyra album (20/20) and the announcer said the guitarist's name was something like Julio Fernandez (I'm not sure if this is correct at all). Edd, JoeM, Ole, fezo, Kink, roy, et al. - any info on this guy?

Question2: While scrolling through Paul Simon's discography (boy is my pinky sore), there was a Bill Lee credited for a 1964 recording on bass. Is this Clas' favorite (striped) bass player?

Question3: This year at the Grammys, Producer of the Year will be awarded for the first time. Who are you all's favorite producers aside from Katz and the dynamic duo (supposedly 2AN is self-produced)? A producer who gets a Dan-like clarity from artists' recordings is Tommy LiPuma who has produced Diana Krall, George Benson, Michael Franks and others. For example, the songs he produced on MF's Blue Pacific with Carlton & Sample playing sound almost more like the Dan that the #s Walter produced! nominated for bets Dan-like producer???

OLe: (the etymology of entymology dept.) My WNC edition lists Scandanavian

My daughter is finishing the alphabet in I'm going to spring the 27th letter on her: µ

for -













...back to work

Name: AcE oF hEad

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 12:16:11

(Actual translation from English to Peter North and Back to English)

NO! I'm never going to fuck you without a condom. UUUGH-UUUGH
NO! I'm never going to fuck you without a condom. UUUGH-UUUGH

This is ME.
Get it through your thick skull, BITCH.
I want to be your hole-y man

NO! I'm never going to fuck you without a condom UUUUUUUU.UUUGH
Don't MAKE me come over there and majorly flog you with my unprotected meat stick. oooh-aaah

This is who I am
I want to be in your hole m'am.

Name: Deaf Poet's Society

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 12:07:52

From English to ASL and back again:

First I say that I will not obey
and they tell me I'm lazy
I'm street-smart and know everyone is crazy
Some woman says again "serve, don't talk"
And I don't know if I'm myself or just a weirdo

I'm in the coal mine and it'll explode soon
I want to run out right now; there's nothing else to do

So I cough and forget about it and obey, like they said
And I wonder if I should hide and save my pride, or continue to be humble
But my life is like a humming teapot losing control
I felt this way one time before
I wish someone would free me

I'm in the coal mine and it'll explode soon
I want to run out right now; there's nothing else to do

Name: Hermit Crabbe
3 Against Agoraphobia

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 10:41:57

I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks,they are always locking three.

Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch rumour control center

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 10:27:59

Hey, everybody, is there any truth to the rumour of a mini-CD to be released in March?

Name: les

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 09:05:48

Dick? If theres a God, then why would he let President Kennedy whos a catholic get killed?
"Well it beats nailing him up ya know what I mean"

Still waiting for the new one!!!


Name: oleander
counting pennies

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 07:36:30

fezo--do I have to get them all at once?

Name: Sonicated

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 06:27:54

[ Tues., February 2, 1:36 PM EST ]
New Steely Dan Album Due

Steely Dan are slated to release their first studio album in 19 years in June, according to Giant Records publicist Christina Jokay. The '70s rock band's last studio album was Gaucho (1980); a reunion tour led to the 1995 live album Alive in America. The band is led by singer/keyboardist Donald Fagen and bassist/guitarist Walter Becker.

Name: Big Fan

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 06:19:19

Four Eyes: Nice link. Maybe we should email Ms. Jokay to see if she came shed any more light on the subject. Giant Records home page is pretty weak- Their big star is Brian Wilson of Beach Boys shame, I mean fame. No mention of AIA or any other contact or affiliation with SD. Of course, SD has never been known too be to partial to record label executives.

... The deaf-mute chance my friend, will not suck me in this time.

Name: JosieDanFan
Here come those Santa Ana winds again...

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 06:18:16

Hey DanFans!
Ahhhhh..the new one! Two Against Nature, can't wait 'til June to get T.A.N. Between the new love in my life and the new album, life is GOOD!!!

Sista Katy: Thanks for writing me back in such a timely manner. Maybe I should try and be more like my big sis. Doesn't he sound delicious? :o)

Lester: Sorry man, but I was just passing along some jokes I thought you'd enjoy. I try not to send chains like YOU did!! Sometimes they slip through though. I promise no more forwarded stuff. If you'd like, I will write you. I kinda miss the e-mails' you wrote to me.

Hermit: Forget about me man?

David in the FL Room: Hey hon'!! Talk to you soon. Hope your road trip was great.

Well, I guess I'll be headin' out. Been awake since this time Monday morning. Kinda tired...


Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 05:24:52

Happy Ground Hog Day. Is it just me or did we live this exact same day yesterday?

JokeR: Keep those translated lyrics coming. -- The last time I told a woman of monkey that I had seen her front dance, she slapped me with her paw.

Schwinn the Eskimo: Now I have to look up another word. You people are very educational; I'm up to the s's already. (How do you spell the plural of "s"?)


Name: Schwinn

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 1999 at 01:32:24

Roy--you're recitation of those long-lost lyrics sent a synapse straight to my brain's "Julie Andrews" structure where it promptly relayed a Message to Michael. Thank you.

Edd & JW: I found it. Audio Technica's ATM31R. It accelerates the clay in my voice to virtual concrete.

Feelin' Groovy,


Name: Excuse me?

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 23:26:23

Oh, did someone just say "Let's go"? Right, so, as I was trying to point out: Shapiro also rules on "Don't Cha Stop" and the live version of "Dangerous Type," while granting , now that you allude to it, that Walter rules, too, on "Wetside." (President Street Pep is the beneficiary here.)

Name: Deaf Poet's Society
jOker's wiLD

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 19:35:53

Actual translation from English to ASL (American Sign Language) and back again:
Weird Charlie have only one thing his:
a ring, three ounces, plain
no eat in five nights, no sleep also
and if nobody brings him to their house he will die soon
he sees me on the street, I hear his call
in our cold house he tells me his story
he's a little stupid: he told me straight out his problem because he needs so much--
I know I'm smart because then I bought the ring so cheap
(untranslatable line)
look close at Charlie, you can see his favorite type of drugs
he took too many, poor man, and died--I wasn't there, but
he sighed all the time when dying
When I hear he's dead, I taxi to him
his arm has a tag that says: DOA
Truly I give him back his ring; it isn't mine
now you--you are my friend--take hands with me and we'll go home

Name: k knight`
Location: Dallas, tx usa
Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 18:50:10

Name: Four Eyes

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 16:54:24

On the music section at today, it's reported "The New One" wil be out in June.

Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 15:57:03

Today in Martinsville, VA about 30 minutes from here we're sitting in Long John Silvers eating lunch and the tape they have running has Olivia Newton John, Steely Dan, Neil Young, Alan Parsons Project, Barry Manilow and a couple I didn't recognize before we split.....I guess you've gotta take the good with the bad.

Guys talking about the home studio stuff: I'm still hanging on to my old 8-track Fostex 1/4" machine with the 16 channel StudioMaster board and a bunch of rack mounted effects....I'd like to make the jump to digital later this year but we're in the midst of buying a house and won't close on it until March 15th. Then there'll be stuff to buy for there but by this fall I hope to be back in deep with recording....any suggestions welcome. Also, what's my 8-track and board worth these days? Anything??

back in two days....MC

Name: Cathy Berberian
making a remoulade

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 12:36:00


Oh you're right! the meds have just kicked in and I'm laughing my ass off at your posts right now!!!!

Give Me, you have to believe him, his posts are truly hysterical and i'm being honest!

I have to run now, nature calls, Oh my is this your chair I'm sitting on honey?

See you after dinner when they pass out the valium and the percs.


Name: jOker today a workday...?

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 11:02:52

GIVE ME: you should see what I look like. [actually, you should see what I'm doing right now!]

from english to french, then back again:

to obtain a feeling I to have here
before observing such as you cross to destroy floor
to know you to have to you to pay all
to pay itself today or wages to tomorrow
attach you to the top your beaded dress
then you test to attach to the bottom
doing to you work one
or playing in association combination.

You throw out of your gold teeth. Do you see how they roll?

I saw your iron and your brass
Can't you see it shining behind glass?
Your fortune is your wandering eye,
your mouth and legs your gift for the runaround
Torture is principal attraction
I do not need this kind of action
You should not dance for me. I saw your front dance.

Do you throw out of your gold teeth? Do you see how they roll?

Tobacco which they cultivate in Peking
Per year of the grasshopper you will see a sad thing
Even Cathy Berberian knows that there is a roulade which it cannot sing
The deaf-mute chance my friend, will not suck me in this time.

With obtained a feeling which I was here front
Not to me let you help you to find the gate
Very that you obtained to make must use your silver plated shoes,
gift of A for the runaround
Use your darling of talent
Take with a stage the back darling
There ain' T nothing in Chicago so that a woman of monkey makes.

Throw out of your gold teeth? Do you see how they roll?

Name: Give Me
a break

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 09:42:27

If you're going to use the handle Joker, say something that's funny. You sound like a retard!

Name: JokeR
post twice, rap with you know

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 09:13:36

GIVE ME: well, you only gave me, lessee, looks like 40 secs. for my comments to work. why don't you wait for the meds to kick in, THEN judge my comments against your "sense of humor". Meanwhile, have you seen my chair? Someone's still in it, I'm sure of it.....

Name: Give Me
a break

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 08:59:49

Joker- NOT funny

Name: Give Me
a break

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 08:59:09

Joker- NOT funny

Name: joKER
@ the jello counter

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 06:46:09

JACK: good to see they're starting the Literal Treatments again: it means Admin is gonna start piping the new album (Muzak version) thru the cafeteria. When you get toweled off, I'm in the TV room looking for my chair.

oooooh, they're handing out the reds: hurry up, they're working on "Jack of Speed".......

Name: Roy.Scam

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 05:57:33

Edd, Les, Schwinn: "The sidewalks and the street, the concrete and the clay beneath my feet begin to crumble, but love will never die." Good record. Very Burt Bacharach-like. It was also very reminiscent of a big hit from that period called "Always Something There to Remind Me".

Zeke: That Muddy Waters tribute was good and very nostalgic. I heard on the radio today that Nick Gravenitis from Big Brother and the Holding Company was on that show also. And Greg Allman was almost unrecognizeable; looks like he's changed vices.

fezo: Boss dream. Whenever I see two guys in the city on bicycles, I try to avoid eye contact; I figure they're probably Mormons and they're gonna try to sell me that book again.


Name: Jack
@gettin tanked

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 03:20:17

I was just sittin there minding my own business, when the attendent unlocked the door and walks in holding a baseball bat and says, "Let's go". Me being a model patient, didn't seem to
want to cause any problems, went with him. We proceeded to the lobby where there was a giant fish tank. He says "Well?" I just stood there. He says "Well?" I just looked at him and shrugged my shoulders. That was it, he had had enough. Before I knew it, I was strung up over the fish tank. So he nudges me with the bat
and says "Well?" So here I am swinging above this fish tank with a straight jacket on and I said "Well what!" He says "Wrong answer." So as he lowered me into the tank I thought "Well, this is it." So I took a deep breath and was looking through the glass
at the guy with the bat. I'll never forget that grin on his face.
What could be worse than this, I thought. Just about then, here comes a fucking lobster crawling up towards my face. One of your friends no doubt. Well that lobster latched onto my ear and bent it over towards him and said "WELL?" I thought WHAT THE FUCK IS GOIN ON HERE!" I was almost out of air when the guy with the bat came over and broke the glass. As I rolled out the side of the tank,water gushing on me, I fell to the floor. The guy with the bat says "You're wet, on your side, so what's the story?" Right then I said, "It's a hit."

Name: Original Lester
More memories

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 01:15:59


Name: Schwinn
Rodes Scholar

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 00:37:11

Edd: I don't know where you dig up this stuff but I'm sure you'd make a fortune with the Edd Search Engine. Have you actually ever heard "Concrete and Clay"? Sort of Herman's Hermits meets Gary Lewis and the Playboys.

JW: Thanks for your input. I've used an EV for six years and I could swallow it with my Tascam 424 but the MDM-X4 brings out the unpleasant nuances of my tonsils banging against my larnyx.

Tonight I used a classic RCA high-velocity ribbon microphone that has a pick-up pattern of about one inch. Sweet. Too bad the guy wants $500 for it.

The Search Continues,


Name: lester the nightfly
@ the laughs on me

Date: Tuesday, February 2, 1999 at 00:00:58

Lester- Yes I heard that for the first time when i was about 13 and i can still quote lines from that tape word for word. I never knew the name of it though because the tape i had was a hand me down blank tape ya know with that recorded on it.
But man I'll tell ya that is some funny shit. The orange juice comerical is the funniest. Wrong again honey, "WRONG AGAIN HONEY, WRONG AGAIN HONEY, WHY THE FUCK U KEEP SAYING WRONG AGAIN HONEY, NOW GET UP THERE AND GET ME SOME FUCKIN ORANGE JUICE!"
But the stereo comercial was funny too, with all the technical talk between schwinn and edd and malibu, it made me think of that commercial and that whole tape. "Oh dont worry my son I've heard much worse" and bill murray says, "have u heard of cuntalingus?" "I hear that from 2nd graders"
How about the one with the 2 birds screwing?
I thought richard beltzer was funny as the talk radio host, tonight the subject is women in government, u know the number i'm sick of repeating it and your on the air, your on the air, your on the air, "am i on the air, on the air, on the air" yeah u want to turn down your radio ok asshole, asshole, asshole!
How about Mr. Rogers? When he has a special guest, a jazz bass player. Can u say egg Mcmuffin? Egga muffin yeah i can say it.
I wonder if that guy played with Don and Walt? Anyway this has been fun, thanx for the memories!

Name: Elton John
Don't Let Your Son Go Down on Me

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 21:58:07

Bernie? Is that you? Save me, dude, my songs have sucked serious ass for 20 years now. Help, help, I'm being signed to perform on a movie soundtrack, aaaaaaaaaah!

Name: Original Lester

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 21:46:19

Lester- You would be speaking of the album That's Not Funny, That's Sick. "I musta had my head up my ass!" One of my favorites is the orange juice commercial with the old couple. Also, the confession bit with the Murray brothers- that clip would even horrify Peter North. I haven't heard that album in over ten years.

"Mickey Way....Mickey Way the candy bar."
"Shrimp Cocktail"

Name: Lester the nightfly
@no caps

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 19:39:31

Well I figured out how to get in the chat room(yeah), but evidently someone stole my name and put a pass word on it.
Some people i swear! Well I'm glad to hear that theres a new one on the way, about freakin time! I think that breaks Bostons record of every 8 years. So lets see the next one that comes out our boys will be about 75, ouch! I'd still go see the tour, wheelchairs and all! I can see it now, they will be hooked up to IVs and singing reeling in the years.
"Thank u Tampa Bay goodnight, we'll see ya next year, maybe!"
That is my atempt of humor, I cant imagine someone reading what i just wrote and getting pissed but i guess some people will, oh well! Well I just checked the chat room while i've been typing this and Danfan came and left, you have to give it a few minutes man, the chat room is not a popular place, it gets about 3 hits an hour. So chances of getting someone on there in less than 5 minutes is impossible. Just hang in there a while, surf around a while and check back ever few minutes.
Anyway did i say i'm glad that, oh yeah i did, sorry!

Lester- thanx for the e-mail, i swear Sd has the hardest chords!

Josie- I really hate reading forwarded mail, but i'd love to get mail, let me know whats going on with ya!

I love reading all the technical talk on here its educational!
Sounds like we actually have some real serious musicians in here!
I had a little 4 track recorder and a drum machine does that count? I spent so much fuckin money on music equipment(ok I had to look up that word, u guys make me feel illiterate) over the years. There is this little funny bit that National Lampoons does on this comedy tape from 79' i think, anyway its a fake commercial about stero equipment, and they make the guy feel like an idoit with all the technical talk, like he should know what the salesman is talkin about. Has anyone ever heard that tape, it has Brain Doyle Murray, Richard Beltzer, and some other SNL faithful on it.

Jack- how do u type with a straight jacket on? Hi Geena and Lisa!

Steve- Fm is stronger than ever what r u talking about!

Fez- your in Miami?


Name: jack..umm..i...forgot
@in a padded cell

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 15:15:48

hey dansters, say hello to geena and lisa for me. It might take awhile to get out of this one. Thanks to you they have just finished strapping me in my brand new houdini suit. Was that a hawk I just saw flying by the window, I don't know anymore.
Did I remember to say thank you....I will.

Name: Edd

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 15:07:09

Ditto the recommendation for the VS880. A great machine. My only regret is I bought it before the 1680 came out. Quiet, flexible, easy to operate. The expansion card gives you tons of FX, COSM amp models, etc. Then burn your CD right from the VS... Too cool.

Given the budget constraints, I'd recommend a good ol' Shure SM57 or SM58. Well proven, versatile, good sound, and you could probably get one of each for the price of the Rode and not have to worry about batteries or phantom power.

Extra dig- If you had the VS880 with the expansion card you could turn that SM57 into a Nuemann...:^)

Name: JWMalibu

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 14:52:05

Hey all!


Couldn't help but throw my two cents in on your inquiry:

1. Re: The Roland VS-880 Rev. 3 is an awesome device, as is the 1680. I've got the VS-880 Rev. 2 (V-Expanded) with the internal card, and I'm quite pleased with the sound quality. Pundits complain about the fact that it uses some data compression in certain modes, but I can't discern it in a blind test. The mini-disk recorders use a more radical data-compression format which SOME people claim to be able to discern - but a digital multi-tracker for $400.00 (used, I presume) I guess you can't complain! The nice thing about the VS series (assuming you get the internal card(s)) is that it is a stand-alone device - everything is in the digital realm - including, digital recording, effects, mixing and CD-burning. Not to say that you can forego having to use/buy other equipment to get the optimum result - as you probably know, your studio is NEVER really complete (keep saying to my wife, "this last piece should just about do it!!"). The finished product sounds like a million bucks - zero hiss! The nice thing about the VS, as compared with using a PC, etc. is that, in my example: I lay my sequenced tracks, add my own "analog" instrumental parts, and then put the VS into its (optional) case and take IT to one of my many musician friends' houses for additional overdubs. Kinda' like taking the mountain (or molehill) to Mohammed.....especially since I can't always get away with recording LOUD mic'd amps in my living situation! I'd highly recommend buying a VS.

2. Re: a good general-purpose microphone for under $300.00. I'd take a look at the Rode NT1 condenser - which is now available for about 299.00 or less. Rode is an Australian company, and the NT Series has won numerous awards in publications such as Electronic Musician, etc. I've got the NT2 (about 700.00), and to my "non-Neumann-zed" ears, it sounds incredible! You'll need a mic pre-amp to run these mics effectively, ART has pre-amps starting at about $100.00 - I use the Aphex 107 with "tubesssence" - the tube pre-amps add much-needed warmth to recrodings in the digital realm. AKG makes a similar mic for about the same price.....

Let me know whatcha' end up doing!


Name: Steve V. Wondering

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 14:49:41

fezo- It is hard to say how our beloved Dan of Steel will play in the duller than dishpan water world of 1999 FM Radio/retail corporate numbers crunching......'Kamakiriad' got very little airplay but sold well (circa 900,000) but '11 Tracks' got no airplay and failed to even make the Top 200......

certainly the days of 'Aja' are gone.....that album was a Gold record five days after its release (10/1/77) and spawned three killer hit singles ('Peg','Deacon Blues' and 'Josie')!......I am sure Fagen and Becker would love to have a big hit ....but the music scene is a mess.......and does anyone even listen to FM radio anymore(??!!).......[....I listen to shortwave myself
once heard 'IGY' on a Taiwan station..(top secret memo) from NHK is on at 7am pst----9505 khz....(top secret memo over)....out

Name: fezo

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 14:20:06

Another in a series of Dan Dreams . . .

I'm the special guest star of one of those cheesy Quinn Martin dramas they used to show onbspS like Mannix or Barnaby Jones. I'm the undercover cop they bring in take down all those bad drug dealers. I'm in a neighborhood that Eugene Robinson wouldn't even frequent, my back against the wall, cover about to be blown, when two familiar looking folks ride by on bikes. It's Walter and Donald. Oblivious to my fate, they keep right on going.

Back in the waking world, I'm pondering the commercial fate of the new release. Will it get any radio airplay? Does it need such airplay to get strong sales? Where I'm at, even the "best" stations are still stuck in grunge with a occassional taste of white boy pop that is about as musically interesting as a John Tesh/Yanni duet. Will each each GBer have to buy 100 copies to ensure its commerical success.

Wait. Since there are at best ten of us, make then 10,000.

Name: Edd

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 12:04:21

"Concrete and Clay", 1965, Unit 4+2.

Actually charted pretty high in the UK...

Name: GK John
Wooley Swamp

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 11:35:11

My oh my, cher!
It seems ah made a mistake or two on mah song to yoo, girlie!
Ah'm gone haff to be mo carefull in de future, darlin!

Name: GK John
@ The Honky Chateau

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 11:24:00

Well! Take a week off from the GB and look what happens!
Edd/Mu- Belated thanks for the memories

Speaking of which...
Clas- Sorry to hear about Nisse/Nils. Did he ever display any of that Swedish madman's antics like banging away at the piano with his feet or wailing on the ol' Fender with his tongue? I saw Lofgren do that back in '77 after "Cry Tough" was released at a show that also featured The Richie Furay Band. Blew me away, it did.

Peg- Nice save! Remember, it will come back to you!

An las but not de leas...
Lahk allways, dis fo mah girlie de Witch Queen who sho knows how
to pleese a feller, an keep him comin back fo mo...

When I look back,
Boy, I must've been green
Boppin in the country, fishin in the stream
Look for an answer, try to find a sign
Until I saw your city lights,
Honey I was blind

They said, "Get back, Honkey Cat!"
"You better get on back to the woods"
Well, I quit those days and my redneck ways
Change is gonna do me good.

Get back Honkey Cat
Living in the city ain't where it's at
It's like trying to find gold in a silver mine
It's like trying to drink whiskey from a bottle of wine.

Well I read some books and read some magazines
about those high class ladies down in New Orleans
and all those fools back home said I was a fool
They say, "Leave him alone is the golden rule"
But how can you stay when your heart says go?
How can you stop when your feet say go?

Ah think ah luuuuuv yoo, cher!

Name: Midnite Cruiser

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 10:27:16

St.Al....thanks for the info. Keep it coming as you receive it please.

Peg....thanks to you and your cache for recovering the "lost posts".

Thank God Walt & Don did NOT call it "The New One"!

foxinsocks....get your ass to work shitbird!!

Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch not sure what's goin' on

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 09:59:43

Clas/Ole: Ya know, now that I've gone back to the URL that Clas sent me regarding the New Orleans JazzFest, it appears that I was looking at the 1998 schedule. Clas, you might want to double check your URL. Either that or I've lost the URL that you sent me. Anyway, I believe I may need to retract my previous post regarding the second weekend. I'll probably wait until the "official schedule" gets posted here in the next week or so to make prelim travel plans. Have you both made reservations for lodging?

Name: Big Fan

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 09:31:30

I do a lot of fishing, but usually not without my "hook, line and sinker" 4/1 is on a Thursday this year. I almost forgot that tomorrow was Groundhog's day. I hope Phil declares for a short winter in Pennsylvania tomorrow.

Name: jOKEr
ssssssssh, you'll scare the fish

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 08:32:05

you know - it was an unreleased single that was on the Greatest Hits album, well the Muzak version was pretty lame as usual.....

Name: Only a fool
would say this

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 07:51:18

Joker- What in the hell are you talking about?

Name: joKer
who's got the keys to the trolling boat

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 07:38:31

ah, getting off of work to grab some beer in Kroger, listening to SD muzak is always a pleasure, esp. when it's "Here @ the Western World"...never get to hear that one mauled to death....

-- say, did anyone get to see the Superbowl halftime show with none other than Don+Walt? tell you what, it was a real treat -- no lip-synchin on those boys.....the gold lame' jumpsuits were a nice touch - makes you glad you wasted your precious sunday nights watchin football......

[grinning and casting} JOKer

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 02:59:09

Okay, enough of Steely Dan now for a while?

I'm sorry Jamaican Dude, did not read your post until today:

"...for the best in beginning shaker lessons, may I suggest a different shaker made by LP. It's called "Shake It", and is in the shape of a long tube, made of a light metal. It's easy to control, which will appeal to the beginners, and has a nice sound. The shaker you recommended is made of a soft plastic, and the resulting sound is too muffled to cut through the rest of the jammin', mon."

Thanks for the advice. Okay students, run to the nearest musicstore and by the shaker mr Jamaican Dude is recomending.

KatyDanFan - it's alright. A raincheck will do.

The first song we're practicing The Shaker with is "Preacher In The Ring", from BRUCE HORNSBY's "Spirit Trail", that song is about some obscure fanatic religous people, probably in Knoxville or Lynchburg. they're drink poison and handle rattlesnakes (amazing things, it's like in The Third World).

And thanks to the man who made these Shakerlessons possible - Bobby Hornsby.

Name: Schwinn

Date: Monday, February 1, 1999 at 01:48:09

Edd: Indeed, it is an MDM-X4. Now, about those "other" choices you might have made. I still have some moolah in the budget and would like to hear your opinions--namely, what you think the best multi-purpose mic is for under $300.

Also, Edd, who released the song, "Concrete and Clay"? I believe it was in the same 3-pack as "Please, Mr. Sullivan" and I'd like to find it.

Remote Posting Experiment,


P.S. Is it true that the Miami Sound Machine now holds the record for most Superbowl appearances?

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