Name: "FezChick"
Showering with "The Dan"
Date: Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 06:10:24
Comments:
Dan Fans:
I was listening to The Dan this morning while showering. (Yes, I realize that could be hazardous to my health!) Does anyone out there know the story behind the song "Green Earrings"?
It sounds like it might be a pretty interesting one."I don't mind . . ."
Name: Roy.Scam
Hygeine, Aisle 7
Date: Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 05:29:09
Comments:
Fez o'north: There's no better pick up line than, "Say, isn't that a Projecto 5, adjustable stream Deluxe with double reinforced bag and computerized vinegar injection?"
Noah: Yeah, they're way cool; and with luck, they'll be a nineties band again. We used to talk about them on this guestbook.
Mr.LaPage: What's the record for substance emitted in one posting? In flaming me, (It hurt but that was a good Jeopardy parody snippet.) you also implied that 32 Fords are vaccuous and without substance. Hey, would Bruce AND Brian Wilson have immortalized them in song if they weren't worthy? It was a great car, comparable to the 1973 Midnite Cruiser.
RS
Name: ashadow
crossed the blue Miami Sky
Location: London, UK
Date: Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 05:10:45
Comments:
"...when all my dime dancing is through I run to Yoo-Hoo..."
Name: Mr. Glapp
f@rfromyoufuckers
Date: Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 01:57:00
Comments:
Noah!
That's enough fun for one night, young man! You come home this instant and remember, "douche bag" is still known as, "mom's water bottle" when you're in this house!
Daddy
Name: Noah Blank
growinupf@st
Date: Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 01:45:36
Comments:
Thank you, Roy. I looked up "ostentatious" and quickly outgrew the meaning. Just like I outgrew my Father's Steeleye Span records. Now I'm into this 70's band called Steely Dan. Have you heard of them?
Down to 44
Noah
Name: Grouse Point
Luck@Henry
Date: Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 00:20:35
Comments:
L.H.: The Keystone Cops have made their mistake, and continue to do so. You know what I mean. It has been written, it has been done.
Clas: Hey!
Name: queenie
cock, stock @nd barrel
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 at 23:52:00
Comments:
l.c. guy: are you making fun of me?
it was a lousy comma, you fuckers...even ones as lofty and pristine as you pompous asses can make a mistake every now and then...
may i suggest a looser style of undergarment to free up your constricted groan zones?
new freedom is more than a maxi,lolita
Name: That "Lucky Charms" Guy
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 at 22:43:34
Comments:
Ah, ' lost me luggage. All me food and personal items-
Have you seen me yellow moons?
Have you seen me green clovers?
Have you seen me blue diamonds?
Have you seen me douche bag?
Name: Kinky
got any hot sauce?
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 at 16:19:34
Comments:
I ain't queer, dear, the only fire in my hole is after a night spent at Roberto's Taco-Rama. And that dark spot on my pants was merely a shadow cast by my boogie night bulge.
Lowly-lita - Think you could handle that? Don't tell me you would/could?!
Name: fezonorth
bigman.com
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 at 15:35:37
Comments:
actually i think Springsteen was singing about the life of a teen growing up in the 30's in fascist Italy, thus the line "raving at El Duce"
Scam: thanks for the further etymology of douchebag. i now feel qualified to cruise the feminine hygiene section of the local grocery and flirt knowledgably.
Also Scam, please keep up the use of large terms on the GB; otherwise I only add words-of-the-day like "fissure" and "schlong" to my vocabulary.
Name: majĐ
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 at 13:37:04
Comments:
You haven't lived until you see Lucky Henry emerge from the vault in his satin lounge jacket, Donald-God issue sunglasses (dip right, back up, sing) and cigar. I bet he even downs a V and a brandy before kicking into the repertoire o' Dan. The tape? That one's a keeper.
Finah-Minah: Package received, loud and clear!! Vintage and Video, tonight, BAY-BY!!
majĐ
Name: whoa
jane, how do you stop this crazy thing?
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 at 13:31:56
Comments:
Who's driving the universe? Cause I'm getting a little woozy myself.
Name: John Henry
records galore
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 at 10:33:09
Comments:
Oh well queenie, just so you know, it may have been Manfred Mann who made the song famous, but it was Springsteen who originally wrote and recorded it.
Name: MrLaPage
t
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 at 10:05:10
Comments:
C: What are douche bags, '32 Fords, insults and ostentatious behavior?
A: That's right.
C: Alex, I'll stay with DanFan GB for $800.
A: That's our audio daily double.
C: I'll wager everything.
A: This body cavity emits less of a certain substance in a month than some visitors can dish out in a single post.
Name: Edd
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 at 09:35:07
Comments:
Springsteen's line "revved up like a deuce" uses the word "deuce" in reference to a hot rod, a '32 Ford I think...
Name: queenie
rut ro
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 at 08:35:43
Comments:
royola: that was manfred mann who did "blinded by the light"...
i believe the word he used is deuce, one of it's meanings being the devil, bad luck or a mild oath used with or without the article.i just want to be loved...is that so wrong?
Name: Roy.Scam
grammatically humbled
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 at 08:22:03
Comments:
Moray Eel: You are correct. I looked it up. 'douchebag' as a one word expression is not yet an accepted English usage.
'douche bag' is defined as slang for an offensive person.
'douche' is defined as a jet or current directed into a cavity of the body. (a rather open-ended definition, if you'll forgive a perversory pun.)
Thus I must conclude that queenie is calling someone an offensive person who directs things into body cavities.Noah Clap: "Douchebag" is obviously one of those big words I can't use; but I will happily string some shorter words together if you will retract the insinuation that I'm ostentatious. I don't want you to use your 50 free hours looking things up in the dictionary.
BTW: Why does Bruce Springsteen use the word douche in his song "Blinded By the Light"? or is that one of those misheard lyrics?
RS
Name: lucky henry
str@nded in
Location: redhook,
Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 at 05:17:24
Comments:
m.: our latest additions to the archives have been dubbed: "Meet My Pet: In the Flesh." and Major Thanx for the Citizen box!! a Must-have keepsake.
did someone say 'tour'?"now lost again for good",
lh.
Name: Mr. 50 FREE hours!
El Gidar@aol.com
Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 22:42:53
Comments:
Hey, what kind of computer does everyone have? I just love Steeleye Span! My dad has all their records and I listen to even the scratchy ones. Does anyone know Kinky's e-mail address? I'm thinking about coming out of the closet and need a mentor. You all are so cool! I can't wait till I learn some big words like Roy Scam. Anybody want to trade Beanie Babies?
Can't wait to spend some more FREE time with you!
Noah Dimitri Glapp
Name: queenie
dull@rd
Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 22:10:26
Comments:
roy: well, at least you complemented me in the same paragraph where you criticized my english...the art of counterbalance has not escaped you.
now...if we were able to get kinky's head to shrink several sizes to match his pecker, we could finally say there was a semblance of equity here on the guestbook.
(what the fuck? i'm just mad cause kinky doesn't love me)
longing lolita
Name: moray eel
The House of Sin
Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 21:41:46
Comments:
Roy.Scam: Douche bag is two words.
Let's see...
Olive Oil?
Vinegar and water?
There is probably a good salad joke in there somewhere.
m.e.
Name: lovey
you know
Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 19:16:53
Comments:
df: icq me baby
Name: Double Felix
@ction
Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 19:15:54
Comments:
"Fire in the Hole" is what Kinky experiences after a date with Surly.
Space-Age Lubricants for Everyone,DF
Name: RubyBaby
I take a little with sugar
Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 18:02:23
Comments:
Fezchick: I had fun listening to my new Kamakiriad! It's a whole new thing to me! I want to experience it a few more times before I get specific, but I love it. (Good quality taping job, too!)Which reminds me: As I taped the Nightfly, that left a whole side of the tape empty. So I taped a few from Old Regime & Roaring of the Lamb. Finally, I heard a resemblence of Ben Folds Five to Steely Dan. I think they could do a smashing job of This Seat's Been Taken and some other old, old Steely Dan.
George: Has it happened yet? I'm pacing...
rb
Name: Beast w/o A Name
petern@sequent.com
Location: SkyBar, CA
Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 16:27:44
Comments:
FYI - The Baked Potato in North Hollywood featured the John Beasley Trio last night. Tonight and tomorrow, Niacin, featuring '94 touring drummer Dennis Chambers (truly in a class by himself). I may try to go tomorrow night and will post a review if I go......
Stevie Dan: For your big screen adaptation:
What about LaMont Wilson as Jerome Aniton? Poor guy needs work.
Name: Aja
sierraluna@juno.com SIERRALUNA@prodigy.net
Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 16:11:26
Comments:
What are you guys talking about?
Still Clueless
Name: Geena SD's Junkie Girl
argggggggggghhh
Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 15:51:11
Comments:
Clas:
i think i'm in love with you............
Name: Roy.Scam
Chang's Fireworks Inc.
Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 05:28:19
Comments:
Subject: Proper use of commas. queenie--'gaping, giant fissure' to describe an asshole was a metaphoric pearl; but your omission of the comma from the sentence "have you seen me douchebag?" completely altered the literary texture. Without the comma, it sounds like Popeye in search of his douchebag. Sentence structure, people!
Edd: I also thought the phrase "Steely Dan harmonics" might be a misprint for Steely Dan harmonies, but the Ben Folds review I have definitely says 'harmonics'. I agree, to equate the vocal harmonies of the two groups would be innacurate; much of the BF5 harmonizing sounds more like early Neil Sedaka. (Compare "Kate" to "Breaking Up Is Hard to Do")
Clas--I called "No offense" at the beginning of my 'Fire In the Hole' sentence; ergo, you're not allowed to take any.
RS
Name: Ellen Degenerate
hangin wit da indyko girls
Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 00:47:25
Comments:
Surly Walter Raliegh? oh-my-god! You? I mean you, of all people? Who'da thunk it?
Name: Lou Chang
digit@l@lchemy
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 23:37:21
Comments:
Looks like year of Tiger has you by tail. Take it from someone who has worked every firework's factory in Aja: Light fuse and get away!
Chow,Chang
Name: Saintly Alphonzo
!
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 22:22:14
Comments:
GW -- Perhaps he has a really big schlong?
And you don't...
StAl
Name: Surly Walter Raleigh
kinkyple@
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 22:15:35
Comments:
Kinky--You are so...delicious! Egocentric, cruel, crafty and a real butt-chasm. If you don't already have a "dark spot on your pants" I'de like to give you one, big boy! Anybody who uses the name "Kinky" with such pride has got to have some "back-door" fantasies, if you know what I mean...and believe me, I've got the swingin' rear entrance ready for you. Thank you, lover. I had just about abandoned this message board until you showed up. Please, give me an e-mail address so I can share my real feelings with you!
There IS a God,
SWR
Name: queenie
wh@tever
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 22:05:37
Comments:
doc: how the FUCK do you know what matches me? have you seen me douche bag?
how about my foot to MATCH the circumference of your asshole?
oh excuse me...my foot would be dwarfed by that gaping, giant fissure.
rip it up chump
Name: queenie
jumpin' chunx-o-chib@
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 21:56:10
Comments:
heavy bud: yes, that schwinn character can wreak havoc on even the toughest old birds. clas is quite the disco dandy, but i don't believe he was prepared for what the mad biker had in store for him...but look at his resurgence of spirit!
as for the sex: i would love nothing more, but with these chastity piercings, i am never able to roam too far from the
"tower of power"what can i say? i got a thing for horns.
quee-knee
Name: doc
on c@ll
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 21:46:36
Comments:
A loosed tongue is just what she needs. It will match the rest of her.
Name: Heavy Bud
hunk@hunk@
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 20:47:14
Comments:
Queenie
It appears Clas' run-in with Schwinn has loosed his tongue.
By the way, would you like to have sex with me?
That's Ok, I understand...HB
Name: queenie bitchin'
cl@s is @ll th@t
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 19:34:48
Comments:
kinky, is that you?
look darling, i don't understand what you have against clas...he is a great guy! one might say you have been less than a friendly traveler when visiting the gb...but don't we love you for all your biting, cruel commentaries? can't you and the wonderful clas exist in the same confines without all this animosity? both you chaps have a great mind, but must those intellects be mutually exclusive?
by the way muffin cup, clas is far from being homely...he is actually quite handsome.
be a man kinky.
lolita
Name: Aja
freethinker, artist
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 19:24:37
Comments:
ok, your in a movie theatre, the feature has just started, and the credits are coming up on a black screen, and then the we dolly (or steadicam) down the hallway, past the family photos and in the background we hear the unmistakeable sound of someone practicing the piano (scales or some simple tune), and into the living room where we see a childs hands on the piano, cut to a shot of DF's sister get exasperated with her lessons (maybe a parent or instrutor telling to keep playing, maybe a little arguement, whatever fits the facts) and then we see DF sit down at the piano and start tickling the ivories.
Of course there are a thousand other ways to start the story, but since I don't know it (Sweet's book is not a biography, really nothing more than a collection of studio stories, which is fine, it's just not a bio) I don't know the options.
As for why some of us here seem to like Clas, maybe it's autism. And you can be a functional member of society and be autistic, just different, the artists, the poets the dreamers, the mystics, the visionaries the pioneers, many of these sorts of people are autistic. Even if it isn't that, hell, Clas is a nice guy, seems kind thoughtful and empathetic to me. Give the guy a break, ok.
more to come
Name: Guess Who
can't figure this one out
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 17:36:18
Comments:
NO NO NO I think you can tell the story likeTHIS:Once, in Clogland there was a homely little boy who began drinking at a very young age. He had very few friends, the alcohol was his E.T. He was an asshole, but even a bigger dick. At the school his teacher would call out attendance, "Jorma!", "Bjorn!", "Agnetha!", "Stig!". Being in his usual drunken state, he would yell out "Here!" to every name being called.
Well, a few things have changed -- although the miserable bastard's still an asshole, still a dick, and is still crying out "Here I am!" under every name but his own, he HAS found some people in this little corner of the web that will talk to him. Hell, some even claim to "like" the guy. What's the deal here? Has this prick changed THAT much? I surely don't see it. So maybe we should ask ourselves, just who ARE these clasaholics? What binds them together? What's the common thread? Oleander, Lisa, Ruby Baby, Aja, Junkie Girl...what gives? Does anyone else see a pattern here? Any oldsters want to give me a hand with this one? Maybe I'm just missing something...
Ahhhh, shit, this will be continued.
Name: Chris Enslow
enslow@jltc.army.mil
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 15:50:37
Comments:
"I spent a lot of money, and I spent a lot of time..."...HEY! Nice site! And here's one more devoted fan to prove it! One of the only mainstream groups out there to actually use real jazz/fusion musicians! Figure that??!!
Name: cl
c@w
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 13:22:39
Comments:
The Steely chords are built in a simple way. Take C major and add a F in the bass. Simple and clear. They did not invented that. Joni mitchell did, listen to her wildgrown pianoplaying on " For The Roses" Every hero has his hero.
Name: Edd
@work
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 12:24:50
Comments:
re: Steely Dan harmonics...
Probably meant "Steely Dan harmonies", (and was incorrect even at that) in an attempt to describe use of chords extended past a 7th...
Name: once again
c@w
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 12:02:12
Comments:
ROY SCAM; "Clas--No offense but it sounded like you used that "Fire In the Hole" question as a launching pad for one of those Evil-American speeches."
For gods sake Roy, I said that I read it in Sweets Bio. And if you think that I am out here to start a war about YOUR war in Vietnam , you are wrong. War is awful, killing is awful, and I canīt have any opinion about how people behave when they are out in a war, a war they donīt understand. How can I know how I would react if I were under fire with a risk to be killed? I think you should read my post closer. OK? My post was not a Evil-American speech. And if it sounded like that, I am sorry.
C
Name: clas
c@w
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 11:48:20
Comments:
I must tell you this story too.
This great swedish trumpetplayer (the same guy in the church and the one with the barf trumpetplayer) had some gigs in Munich (Germany), back in the 70s, at the same time as the Olympic Games.
When he came back home his friends asked him how things had been down in Munich.
- Oh, it was great, a lot of people, the gigs went fine.
- And the Olympic Games, did you see any thing?
- Olympic Games? Nobody told me about any Olympic Games!
Name: Roy.Scam
@falloutshelter w/ tuesdayweld
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 11:42:48
Comments:
I read a review of the Ben Fold's Five album which described them as using "Steely Dan harmonics". Would that equate to using 6th and 9th chords and varying time signatures? I know it can't refer to using that touch-reverb technique on the twelfth fret (BF5 has no lead or rhythm guitar). Was the writer just bluffing? Can one of you experts give a more erudite explanation of that phrase?
Clas--No offense but it sounded like you used that "Fire In the Hole" question as a launching pad for one of those Evil-American speeches. Anyway, I think it's important that the song is about a youngster (like a pre-Maxine, pre-IGY adolescent) ; so it describes a lot of growing-up confusion resulting from recognizing the artifices of society before having the facilities to cope with them.
RS
Name: RubyBaby
Napoleon is president
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 11:37:09
Comments:
Clas: thanks for the fire-in-the-hole lesson. I don't have the SteelyDan Big Book. Life is war, sometimes.Steviedanish: That was a beautiful thing Donald did for Dorothy. I bought the Countdown album when it came out because of the cover. I liked the simplicity of it. (I didn't see the motley crew on the back til I got it home).
Hello, MontyHall. Was it you I used to know?
rb
Name: clas
c@w
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 11:29:48
Comments:
Can you believe that Mercy Mercy Mercy was a kind of freedomsong for blacks, written by this white zero Joe Zawinul?
Can you believe that Wayne Shorter and Zawinul doubled their fortunes when Jaco Pastorius joined Weather Report? And that they did not give a shit when he was down and out in Florida?
Name: neonbend
in daylight sky
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 11:01:05
Comments:
I went to www.imdb.com and submitted trivia for the movie "One Crazy Summer." saying that the character Hoops McCann was taken from Glamour Profession. Apparently, they didn't think this was interesting because it never got listed. I say everyone go to the sight and submit this piece of trivia until SD gets the credit they deserve.
Name: clas
c@w
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 10:55:10
Comments:
FOSTER; sure is, thatīs why Fagen picked Wadenius.
Name: clas
c@w
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 10:50:41
Comments:
STEVIE DAN; I think you can tell the story like this:
Once, in New jersey there was a jewish little boy who was awake at nights listening to jazz on the radio. The music was his E.T. He was a dreamer, but a strong man. At the college he passed a room and heard a guy trying to play weird jazzchops on a guitar. They became friends, they made songs, they looked like clerks on acid when they walked around trying to sell their music
Ahhhh, shit, this will be continued.
Name: Foster
@ a 2 martini lunch
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 10:46:13
Comments:
One thing about your joke, great musicians and Sweden is a contradiction in terms. Isn't it?
Name: clas
c@w
Location: story-ville,
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 10:31:26
Comments:
I have another hysterical funny story. This is about a famous bandleader, swedish. He was a happy lad, nothing seemed to worry him.
At a gig, he a was a leader of a big band, you know, Count Basie-style. His trumpetplayer who sat next to him on the bandstand wasnīt feeling too good during the session. He had a hangover, a real bad ugly hangover. He knew he had to puke and couldnīt wait till the set was over. So, he picks up his sordin and throws down a pizza.
Our bandleader looks at him and says - Hey, donīt do that, it looks bad.
When the gig is over our poor little barf-fellow is standing in a corner of the room and cries his eyes out, feeling miserable. Mr Bandleader comes up to him, saying - Man, whats a matter? Cheer up! Do you want a drink or something?
Name: steviedan
children@scheme and run wild
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 08:55:14
Comments:
Hey me wife 'ad a 'lil baby boy on 12/26.....he's chinese and irish......and seems to be aware and and observant when I play 'Katy Lied'......
any suggestions on how I will explain Steely Dan to him????
"Well son.....once upon a time there were these two overly cynical outcasts from New York.....for years they pounded the pavement in search of Gold.....they were Americans...and their leader was Jay.....one day they made a trip to Hollywood...not being able to Buy a Thrill...they were able to count down to ecstasy (which means real happy)....although their logic was twisted their girlfriend Rikki was able to retain their unlisted phone number.... (excerpted from Steely Dan : For the wonder years)
Name: clas
c@w
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 08:52:59
Comments:
Damm,
apropos babbling, I have to tell you this crazy story I heard the other day. We had two great jazzmusicians here in Sweden, I canīt say theire names here, but they were real great. One was on alcohol, the other one, saxplayer, was heavy on heroin. In the sixties they had a gig in a church, not unusual for jazzmusicians in Sweden, I donīt know if Parker ever played churches, but what the hell.
The guys are ready to go in and do their show but first they have to get in the right mood. The saxplayer need his fix, the other fellow need some booze. So the horseman is standing with the needle and is ready to shoot, mr alcoholic is drinking vodka from the bottle. They both are smoking cigs.
And imagine this scene; a man with a needle ready to shoot up in his left arm, a man with a bottle, both smoking. What happens? The door opens and the preacher comes in. It is quiet for a couple of seconds and then the preacher says, kind of not believing what he sees.- Guys, you canīt smoke here, this is a church!
Name: clas
c@w
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 06:37:58
Comments:
RUBY; Fire In The Hole was a term used by US-soldiers in Vietnam. When they came to some village and people were hiding in holes underground, covered with leaves and bushes, they were easy to find for the soldiers. When they threw down handgranates in the hole, the soldiers screamed; thereīs fire in the hole!
Thatīs what Brian Sweet writes in Reeling In The Years.
But of course Fagen/Becker didnīt think of that when they used the words in the song. I think they mean an inner emptyness, a longing for something else, you are empty, but still something is burning, and you have to make some changes but you think thereīs nowhere to go. You are down at the bottom where your lifeline shows. Reach the bottom, survive and you will never be the same again. And you will never care more for people who live their lives on the surface, people who are not honest about themselfs, who sits babbling about hairstyles and clothes and money and if he said that and she did that and I just have to have the right underpants on when I look at my body in the mirror.
People who thinks that Clintons sexlife is more important than a war in Iraq.
Audi my friend and say hi to P.
Clas
Name: steviedan
live@bootleg.com
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 19:52:15
Comments:
roy:he wold make a great Jerome Aniton....who incidently created the name Stevie Dan.......one wonders how stoned Aniton was at that last gig in 1974....just a guess:two shots of southern comfort, one shot of jack daniels....a fifth of bourban and a bowl of black hash.....plus six budweisers...and a hit of blotter......
now where was I...???
Name: goodkingrichard
no longer@the dry cleaners
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 18:32:19
Comments:
RS: It's only now that I realise it's OK to have a dark spot on my pants. All those years of shame derived from Donald's sneering line now behind me.
'Get it on Kid Charlemagne' oooh yeah!
Richard&kangaroos
Name: Geena
katylied@hotmail.com
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 18:09:32
Comments:
MrLaPage:
i think i already mentioned that i also thought it was "the fine Coke rum", until i discovered it was "the fine columbian" and we're not talking Pablo Escobar either.
i distinctly heard "italian" on the CD box set version of Kid, but i also heard "champion" on Alive. I guess DF can do what he wants with his lyrics...
Name: Mr. President, That's not My Pain, That's My Mouth
Hey 19
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 11:00:19
Comments:
What A Country!
Name: MrLaPage
confession, again
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 10:13:40
Comments:
I gotta get my hearing checked. This isn't a new discovery, but at one time I thought that the line was "The fine Coke, rum and you."
Champion it is, clearly, on AIA.
Name: Norma Loquendi
x
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 09:09:11
Comments:
Another mis-heard lyric that almost makes better sense than the original:
"Every eighth friend had your number on the wall"
Name: Roy.Scam
at the dry cleaners having dark spot removed
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 05:51:20
Comments:
Stevie Dan: Might I suggest Damon Wayans as Aniton?
Slimmy: Cheer up. When you start insulting the nice people (you know, the ones afflicted with sensitivity), it's time to tuck in that lower lip and evaluate your feelings. Are you still bitter because Rick Nelson and Desi Jr. got such an easy ride into the music industry by virtue of being sitcom offspring?
Oleander: You may think that "gathering up the teats" is a humorous notion for you privileged people to smirk about, but believe me, when you have to do it all summer just to make tuition money, well, never mind. --- Did "I Fought the Law and the Law Won" really have the line: "Fagen rots in the hot sun"?
GoodKingRichard: Not only did I think that the line in "Sign In Stranger" was 'do you have a dark spot on your pants', but I actually looked to see if I did.
RS
Name: Slimmy, Son of Shame
y@k
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 at 22:08:02
Comments:
Oleander
My apologies for referring to you as a "bitch" twice in a single, short post. I had no idea an MRI would retune my mercury filled molars to Linda Evans' whippin' boy. Please forgive me and thanks for, well, just bein' you, gosh darn it!
Your Pal,Slimmy
Name: oleander
scroldfinger
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 at 20:07:33
Comments:
I'll save you the scroll time: "Oleander--Thanks! Does mean I can start picking up pirate Dan tunes if I hold my jaw just right, or do I need fillings first?"
Name: oleander
you need Kool Aid, baby I'm not foolin'
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 at 20:01:44
Comments:
Slimmy, Son of Me--1/20/98, 23:22:19:
>
Does my lamely jocular response make any more sense? If not, just forget it.
Roy--I found two sequels on the shelf with your book: "He's Got The Whole World In His Pants" and "When A Man Loves A Walnut." The Dan appears in both, but neither IMHO is as funny as the pine cones one. "Hey Nineteen"=>"Canine Teeth," and "Are you reelin'...."=>"Are you reelin' in the yeast? Stowin' away the tiles?/Are you gatherin' up the teats? Have you had enough of mine?"o thoroughly out
Name: goodkingrichard
rlongman@dca.gov.au
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 at 18:47:41
Comments:
Ok, hands up those who hear ‘Do you have a dark spot on your pants?’ in Sign in Stranger. Just had a quick trawl and came across this on on http://www.mcs.net/~bingo/lyrics/S.html... and realised to my horror...
...time to call in Dr Freud?
My theory (for what little it's worth and knowing full well it has no relation to reality)is:
Donald does in fact sing 'pants' and 'Italian'(even 'Itamplian'!?) - He's only just written the lyrics, that's a lot of words to remember which one was finally chosen to give meaning to the whole - none of the musicians know the words - Donald's not going to say, "oops, got the wrong word there" when he's giving the guy's "cut! once more, from the top" - so, he let's it go, knowing full well that no one else but Walter has the slightest clue what they are on about half the time anyway.What's the alternative? "Hey guy's, I know you finally got the damn thing right on the 37th take, but I just screwed the lyrics. D'ya mind if we have a brief discussion on what's better 'champion' or 'Italian'?".
'Just to see her do the Can Can, Jacques'
Bony Satre indeed!
Richard&kangaroos
Name: 40BlocksSouth
ofRiverSound
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 at 13:52:17
Comments:
JustaReminder,Kids: There is a song currently in production at an independent shop called, "Steely Dan Movie" - horns are the next to lay in....
Name: steviedanish
steely info service
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 at 12:33:01
Comments:
hey Ruby: Dorothy was Donald's longtime girlfriend in the early days in Malibu (1971-1977).....she did the artwork for 'Countdown To Ecstasy and the songbooks......Donald dedicated Kamakiriad to her as she passed away in 1993......
Name: RubyBaby
laughing@thePines
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 at 11:09:19
Comments:
ClasZappaBaby: I knew it was the Venice in Italy. The music makes that perfectly clear! It's the whole burning water thing. It's great!Fezchick: I love it!! Now you must tell me who Dorothy White is!
Does anyone know what the term "fire in the hole" means exactly? I heard it on some tv show lately. I'm too embarassed to say which one...
rb
Name: steviedan
goneto the movies.org
Location: trip we made to, Hollywood
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 at 09:26:19
Comments:
film idea #0045 ......STEELY DAN : THE MOVIE
cast: Ben Stiller:Donald Fagen
Leonardo De Capri: Walter Becker (young)
Michael Richards:Gary Katz
Martin Scorsese: Steve Barri (record exec)
Robert De Niro: Jay Lasker (record exec)
Howard Hesseman: Jeff Baxter
Jerry Sienfeld:Kenny Vance
Samuel l Jackson: Bernard Purdie
Michael J . Fox: Elliot Randall
Winona Ryder: Dotty of Hollywood
Jeff Goldblum: Donald Fagen's cousin
Eddie Murphy: Royce Jones
Dustin Hoffman: Roger Nichols.....................this will fly people....this film has legs...more coffee please......
Name: ConnieLee
@laughingpines
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 at 06:01:27
Comments:
Double Felix: one's frequency of checking in on the GB has little to nothing to do with one's "giving diddley squat" about the Dan.
Name: clas
c@w
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 at 05:24:27
Comments:
OLEANDER; nonalcoholic tailpipe? How do I do when I drink it? Lift the whole bike?
SKATING ON THE BEACH; donīt skate ON the beach. There are roads on the side.
Name: clas
c@work, but donīt like it
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 at 04:24:34
Comments:
AJA; thanks for email, if you read this, chat? Email me again!
Name: clas
c@w
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 at 03:59:39
Comments:
VENICE; I could tell you. But let me ask how you voted; New Book (censore-machine) or the Old Book (no censore-machine)? And what do you think about the dot-situation we have here?
Let me know about those things and Iīll tell you.
OLEANDER; thanks.
RUBY; remember, itīs Venice in Italy. Not Calif.
I think the live album from Las Vegas with Count Basie and Sinatra maybe is the best thing ever done. Was it -61? Edd?
Donīt bother, I am sitting on internet, Iīll look it up.
SCHWINN; my back is hurting. I am holding a low profile.
c
Name: L.A.
Venice@TheBeach
Date: Sunday, January 25, 1998 at 23:05:42
Comments:
Clas: Any truth to the rumour that the new album will be out in 1999? Signed: Skating at the Beach.
Name: Slimmy Bendix
w@keup@ndgotosleep
Date: Sunday, January 25, 1998 at 22:27:59
Comments:
Oleander--I can tolerate anything but being mis-identified by some half-hemisphered psuedo intellectual like you. Scroll back, bitch, smell the java and tell me again about the MRI that's looming in your future. I know I'm good, but not good enough to take your errors.
Slimmy, Son of William, Bitch...
Name: Double Felix
throwouttheh@rdw@re
Date: Sunday, January 25, 1998 at 22:15:43
Comments:
Ann
Oh, that says a lot about the people who post on this GB. The majority are checking in during their day job. They don't give a diddley squat about the Dan during their free time.
The Superbowl is no excuse. You posted over the Christmas holidays with much fervor. Just kiss my ass and listen to some more Michael McDonald, you whining strangers...
Minute x Minute,
DF
Name: oleander
chompin'
Date: Sunday, January 25, 1998 at 19:00:53
Comments:
Champion, champion, champion. Put on your headphones and you hear an unmistakable "mp" in the middle. "Squonk." But then I'm the one who swears it's "Lot's wages."
Kinky--You missed me! Actually, you're one of my favorite people at the party--the one who sits in the corner (not occupied by Schwinn & lisa), wolfs the hors d'oeuvres, sneers all night long and has a better time than anyone else.
Clas--You're back. Let me pour you a nonalcoholic Cuban Tailpipe.
Slimmy--Just don't ever get an MRI, because ever after you'll only pick up the Yanni Channel.
Evan--So why do you want to know?
Stevie--Synchro(ni)City again; today I heard "Jazzman," and fleetingly wondered if CK ever rubbed shoulders with the Dan. She always reminded me of Julie Christie, not Mr. Fagen.
Roy--My undying thanks for coming up with the perfect birthday present for Number One Son (20 on 2/17)!!! I was rolling just with your snippets. He'll be breathless.
Actually, there's another perfect present that you New Yorkers might be able to help me with: anybody know how to come by some Ricky Jay tickets? Any night except the benefit performance. Please!!
Name: Q
FLAROOM
Date: Sunday, January 25, 1998 at 10:55:38
Comments:
Luckily, the bootlegging enterprise was'nt raided-we just ran out of material to bootleg !!! Thanks for your concern, Hal.
Name: fezonorth
hoos.com
Date: Sunday, January 25, 1998 at 08:50:45
Comments:
Argggg. Wasted too much time yesterday viewing the replay of the Hall of Fame induction ceremony on VH-1. Very corporate and canned. If it wasn't for a ferocious and surprisingly fresh jam from the original Santana lineup, I would have pulled an Elvis and shot the t.v.
Here's hoping, however, that Walter and Donald do get inducted one day. Why? Imagine the scene . . . They play it completely straight through the presentation, dressed nice in tuxes, smiling, giving the proper thanks, and not sounding like Manson and Starkweather. All the suits in the crowd are pleased at the proper behavior.
Then the stage is cleared for the traditional post-induction song and they immediately regale the crowd with "Everyone's Gone to the Movies". By the time Mr. LaPage turns on his projection machine, the suits will be fleeing in droves from the Waldorf-Astoria.
One can only dream . . . .
Name: Queenie
l@nguishing
Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 19:25:15
Comments:
come for me
Name: Ann Archie
bigc@ke
Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 19:21:47
Comments:
Well You Little Dannys! Donald certainly liked the birthday gifts. But let's not forget Walter's is less than a month hence. It's not too early to start a lively discussion on the perfect presents for the other partner. Any suggestions? I'm thinking spore print but it may not make it through customs. A ghia pet would be nice--or perhaps some sturdy gardening tools...
Martha Stewart's Evil Twin,
Ann
Name: I know the truth
& I'm not telling
Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 15:44:39
Comments:
Ed- Are you sure about that lineup for the new record? Don't believe everything you read.
Name: Kinky
h@ngin out with Lind@ Ev@ns
Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 15:32:47
Comments:
Hey Clean W - John Tesh? Yanni? Kenny G? Come to think of it, that would be a better band than the one they put together for '96. But since this IS a dream lineup, I say just add Wayne Krantz and those 96 backup singers to your list, then you're really rockin'!Edd - Those '96 guys are on the new one too? Oh Goooody!
Name: Edd
you know where
Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 12:18:00
Comments:
According to Elliot Scheiner, the new band is...{drumroll}...
Drums - Ricky "Remo" Lawson
Bass - Tom Barney
Keys - John Beazley
Guitar - Wayne Krantz...along with Donald and Walter on piano and guitar.
And there you have it.
Edd
Name: Allen S. Thorpe
athorpe@etv.net
Location: Orangeville, UT USA
Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 12:17:09
Comments:
Out of the loop for about 8 or so years. Just found an old tape of Gaucho and have been listening to it like a junkie for the past two weeks.
Name: Roy.Scam
rage & bull
Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 08:45:18
Comments:
Somebody's been dropping acid and watching "Mean Streets" again.
One vote for "champion". If you want to look for Italian references, check the lyrics of Robbie Robertson. He roomed with Martin Scorcese at one time and their influences slipped into each other's work.Made,
RS
Name: Clas
c@w
Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 07:18:08
Comments:
Lisa; itīs too late now for me to scan the shit. I have spent the whole day searching for West India Cruises or something. Iīm jus my sons slave behind the computer for the moment.
How can you have time to write on the GB if you aint got the time for the other shit?
Well, itīs for me to know and for you to find out. (thatīs a saying I learned years ago, cool ehh?)
Champion/italian? Isnīt that the same thing?
C, Italian
Name: fluff
w@iting
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 23:35:10
Comments:
i accept your invitation to rumble.
come to the room~>
queenie
Name: HB
neutronst@r
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 23:21:46
Comments:
Fluffy
Now you've got my blood boiling like Chuck Yeager without his pressure suit. The GB won't tolerate the words I have for you, Ms. Dramatica. Meet me on the Galileo Chat Line. I think I've found a way to deploy that pesky high-gain antennae.
Mercury in My Hat-band,
Jonathan Swift's Sancho Panza
Name: fluffNstuff
@turgid junction
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 22:55:08
Comments:
will you configure the hickey to resemble a dog collar?
make me your slave
Name: Heavy Bud
lovebloomsinfern@l
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 22:27:48
Comments:
Fluffy
I want to give you a hickey. Will you give me a turtleneck?
Name: lightNfluffy
s@tiv@
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 22:09:37
Comments:
hb: i'll swap you a nugget for a chunk, dude
are you working the karaoke circuit again?
do me
Name: Aja
Re: Sicilians
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 22:05:46
Comments:
It was a joke. A JOKE! I can only hope your reply is a similarly dry retort.
Aja
Name: Heavy Bud
med@m@n
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 21:45:43
Comments:
I don't give a fuck what the "posted" lyrics are. I've seen lots of "official" lyrics that were wrong. It's "Italian". "Champion" makes absolutely no sense in context to the song's theme. Use your brains, Danophiles. The mouth is quicker than the eye.
Hey, here's a good one. Fill in this blank from "Any Major Dude": Have you ever seen a ________'s tears, well look at mine.
We'll play "Scrabbledan" at my next party.
HB
Name: That's Corleone, Don Corleone
Corleone, Sicily
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 20:29:11
Comments:
Aja:
You talkin' to me? We don't specialize in flames, except for those late August fires in less than solvent establishments which are well insured. We do specialize in cement products and accessories. BTW "mafia" is used properly only when referring to our associates here in Sicily. "Cosa Nostra" is the correct term for our extended US family. Ya know what I mean?
Name: Aja
Re: misheard lyrics
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 20:13:50
Comments:
Mr. LaPage - you're not alone it was less than 6 months ago I discovered with the help of a lyrics page and some good headphones that it was indeed champion. I thought it was Italian too, and I thought that the lyric alluded to a mafia connection (and in case you are daft, I realise not all Italians are connected to the mafia, that's just the Sicilians, so keep your flames to yourself). Speaking of flames let's let the uprising talk go. Please?!
Here are some misheard lyric URLs:
http://www-personal.umd.umich.edu/~infinit/misheard.html
http://www.flash.net/~trevas/Peace, love and laughter to y'all.
Aja
Name: Clean Willy
ClnWilly@aol.com
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 20:01:34
Comments:
Hey Kranky, er Hal,
Nothing to say? But oh, one who's intellect is rivaled only by that of garden tools, wasn't it you who had that cute idea of posting one's "dream lineup"? Or was that amanda, or maybe Josie? No matter, mind if I play along?
Here's my list of heavyweights:
Keyboards: John Tesh (alternate - Yanni)
Guitar: Russ Freeman
Drums: Those two guys from 38 Special
Bass: Scott Ambush
1st Tenor: Kenny G
2nd Tenor: Boney James
Horns (other): NajeeSay, from the looks of our two lists, one might conclude we share a favorite radio station. Mine's CD101.9... Yours?
Name: Geena
katylied@hotmail.com
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 19:26:53
Comments:
I'm back everyone!...what did i miss?
Just got in from scraping the ice off my car and leaving my doors unlocked so they don't freeze shut in the morning - oh the trials and tribulations of living in the frozen northeast!
I too always thought it was "italian". It really does makes sense and being italian myself, it made me proud. I was singing along to the song one day, unaware that my husband was listening to me from the next room and when i sang the line, he broke out into uncontrollable laughter telling me to get my Brooklynese ears cleaned out and listen carefully...the word was "champion".
Howevah! i've heard DF slurring his words to a few songs which leads me to believe as to how i understood the word to be "italian" and not "champion"..right now i can't remember which songs they are...but you can bet i won't go to sleep tonight trying to figure this one out...
i'll keep you awwl posted....
Name: Schwinn
onthero@d
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 16:34:29
Comments:
Clas--Yes, it could be a sign of genuine mental illness if you can't remember what you had clamped firmly between your teeth. However, I prefer to believe you were just a little confused after the second round of "Guess that G-Force". Isn't that a fun game?
Lisa--Please return the polaroids immediately. I believe Hardgroove's entrance into the private sector is merely a charade to get his hands on our party pics. Also, I'm sorry about your rash but that's the cost of asking Schwinn for "a little memento". If the chromium dye hasn't set yet try a blow dryer and some aloe vera.
Oh, and I ate the ointment.
Love to All,SEMB
Name: MrLaPage
Sayitaintso
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 13:46:02
Comments:
Champion? Champion? It doesn't even work right. It takes away from the whole song. I mean, "technicolor motorhome" I can live with. At least that seems fairly original and relevant. But I cannot believe D&W would bandy about the word "champion" when "Italian" is such a better fit, just sitting out there waiting to be used.
Name: Mr. Krumpacker
Johnson City
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 12:30:48
Comments:
It's very funny that you mention the "Italian" misinterpretation because if I remember right that's in fact one of the misheard lyrics that are in that book "While I Kiss This Guy."
It's definitely "champion", folks.
Name: lisa
@greement
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 10:27:17
Comments:
mr. la page: i am ready to sign the petition to right this lyrical wrong...it SHOULD be "italian"!!
couple-o-cents-worth
Name: John henry
records Galore
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 10:14:53
Comments:
Mister Lapage; sorry to tell you, you HAVE misheard the lyrics for all these years.
Name: MrLaPage
Down
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 10:02:25
Comments:
Speaking of misheard lyrics, the printed lyrics that I have run across for "Kid Charlemagne" read " . . . realize, that you were a champion in their eyes?" That can't be right. I always thought it was ". . . that you were Italian in their eyes?" Which is it?
"Italian" makes more sense with the Kid Charlemagne motif plus the whole "Did you feel like Jesus?," since Charlemagne was crowned king of the Roman Empire on Christmas day in 800 AD. Please tell me I have not misheard the line for all these years. And if I did, let's start an uprising to get the line changed.
And if the printed lyrics are wrong, let's start an uprising to deal with those people.MLP
Name: lisa
cough@yak
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 06:41:34
Comments:
mr. roy scam: i continue to mourn my absence from the danfest...
hopefully, i will be able to recover...i believe my sorry mental state is the reason this strep is hanging on...you know, some sort of psychosomatic pattern i can't break out of...maybe soon.clas: sorry about last night...i wanted to call back, but i ended up leaving...are you okay?
kinky (finally): right where you want me.
schwinn: i am alright, but that tattoo you gave me is starting to itch...did i leave the ointment in your big biker sack?
penny cillin
Name: clas
c@w
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 00:15:58
Comments:
SCHWINN; whatīs a tailpipe? Is it something you use when you suffer from Genuin Mental Illness (Roy Scam, didnīt know you were a doc too)? Or when you are smoking pot? The Colombian Tailpipe? Drinking Gold, The Cuervo Tailpipe?
The parkinglot was OK. I like my own bed better. But what the hell, you canīt always get what you want.
Lisa is OK I think. She looks more than OK.
I had a fantastic Steely Dan-momento last week, thursday morning at four. I played the Gaucho-cd real loud, and when Third World Man came as the last song, guess what happens? THE NEIGHBOURS CAME OUT SCREAMING!
c
Name: Kinky
this board's supposed to be a party, but to me it's just a crowd
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 at 00:00:54
Comments:
PPaul - What the hell happened to you, man? Have you become bbborn aggain? What has this Dead (as a) Board done to you? Jeez, you're beginning to sound like the fucking riddler.
m.e. - I have nothing to say...I mean Gold Kieth only posts once a week, Joe Murtha's subscription to the Village Voice must have run out, Bob Tedde's busy breast feeding, and I think Quentin's bootlegging business was finally raided (but don't worry, Q, you'll be out soon enough, there's nothing illegal about selling cover band material).
There are so many *new* losers here, I don't have time to chase them off one by one like in the old days.
But keep your head up son, I'm sure Oleander just made a mistake and will be greeting you, too, in the near future.
Name: Grouchie
you bet your life
Location: cyberville,
Date: Thursday, January 22, 1998 at 21:48:55
Comments:
Harpo - If you are the one that thinks I rejected you, just remember what I asked you to read
now *that* hurt more than you know.
Name: Schwinn
yeahright
Date: Thursday, January 22, 1998 at 21:37:57
Comments:
Clas--I was so worried about you! When I told you to go suck a tailpipe I never dreamed you'de take it literally. That was some fire-breathing trick! Sorry I left you lying in the parking lot but I thought you were dead. Glad to see I was wrong.
Schwinn
P.S. How is Lisa?
Name: JamaicanDude
lovedthemboots
Date: Thursday, January 22, 1998 at 16:05:56
Comments:
steviedan: You mean the Jan '73 appearance where Palmer is stompin' around in his fringe-edged boots, shakin' the maracas, and sounding pretty silly (sorry, Palmer, but we're all so used to hearing DF) singing Do It Again, while Baxter is wailing on the congas and Dias is burning on guitar? Followed by Reelin', where DF sings the verses but not the choruses on Reelin'? And the tape jumps near the end so that the two choruses are really the same chorus, twice (you have to look real close to see that one)? Only saw it once, but I ought to take another look. Can't get those boots out of my mind.
Name: steviedan
stevev@jps.net
Location: too much information, Trivia, CA
Date: Thursday, January 22, 1998 at 15:13:57
Comments:
Hey Dug: those back up singers would be Jenny Soule, Gloria Granola and Royce Jones, Jones incidently replaced one time lead vocalist David Palmer (and he would soon record an album with Carole King {who sometimes reminds me of a female version of Donald Fagen ?!?).....the real rare Steely clip to find would be their Jan. 1973 (25 years ago!!) appearance on American Bandstand where they performed 'Do ItAgain' and 'Reeling In the years'...anybody have that on tape.....it's probably as rare as a Honus Wagner baseball card........then of course there was that rare appearance on the Flip Wilson show and that time Becker appeared on Hollywood Squares......and........etcetera.....fade...to black
Name: rubybaby
?
Date: Thursday, January 22, 1998 at 11:05:05
Comments:
You mean the pine cones don't run in?
Name: ryborg the great
this one
Location: this one, this one this one
Date: Thursday, January 22, 1998 at 10:01:08
Comments:
cool page brotha
Name: Joe M
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Thursday, January 22, 1998 at 06:38:19
Comments:
Anyone else catch our very own Swami Pete's comments Re:Kurt Elling on the Op Ed page of the Feb. '98 JAZZIZ? And yeah Pete, Mr. Elling is yet another in a long series of "I'm a Jazz singer, and therefore important" types... Nice article on my man Metheny.
Name: c.l.a.s.
c.l.a.s.@work
Date: Thursday, January 22, 1998 at 00:53:20
Comments:
EVAN; Katz and Fagen
Paul; no, not Karl Marx.
Lisa X; Nice, very nice.
Ruby, email will come, but we talked saturday.
Fire and Rain,
Clas
Name: Mr. Happy
h@ppyl@nd
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 at 21:56:39
Comments:
Everything here in Happyland is just great! Donald and Walter release a new album every month and each one is considered the best one yet. Classic Rock stations play at least one Dan tune an hour with no repetition for days and days! Plus, the boys are always touring--even more than the Stones!
Yep, it sure is great living here in Happyland--where we can't even spell, "contemptible contingent"--much less understand what it means!
Well, gotta go make some more sunshine. Don't forget a smile is just a frown turned upside down!
Saltines & Sardines,Herman on the Mount
Name: Dug
dcl@home.com
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 at 20:59:09
Comments:
Okay kids, answer me this. I just bought this four tape(VHS) American Bandstand best of collection. On it, there is the infamous Dan playing My Old School. Can anyone tell me who the two female background and one male background singers are? The rest of the players are Walter, Donald, the Skunk, Denny and Jim Hodder. If anyone has the David Lettermen Dan show, I would be willing to trade videos. DCL
Name: Dug
dcl@home.com
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 at 20:58:48
Comments:
Okay kids, answer me this. I just bought this four tape(VHS) American Bandstand best of collection. On it, there is the infamous Dan playing My Old School. Can anyone tell me who the two female background and one male background singers are? The rest of the players are Walter, Donald, the Skunk, Denny and Jim Hodder. If anyone has the David Lettermen Dan show, I would be willing to trade videos. DCL
Name: Roy.Scam
there's a bathroom on the right
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 at 20:03:53
Comments:
There'a a coffee-table book that was published a few years ago called "Scuse Me While I Kiss This Guy". It's a collection of misheard rock lyrics, along with humorous narrative and illustrations. Examples: "The ants are my friends; they're blowin' in the wind." and "Every time you go away, you take a piece of meat with you."
Near the end of the book, there's an outrageous cartoon depicting the phrase "Where we're goin', the pine cones run in and make tonight a wonderful thing." which is a misunderstanding of the Cuervo Gold line in "Hey 19". If you see the book on a bookstore shelf, check the next to last illustration.Fez North-- Regarding a subject we discussed at the aforementioned Ghost Town Danvention: It appears that you were right, which unfortunately means I was wrong. According to the Sweet book, the steely knives phrase in "Hotel California" was, in fact, a response to the Eagles reference in "Everything You Did".
lisa: still strepped?
Bony Sartre,
RS
Name: moray eel
Whoo-eee
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 at 16:20:59
Comments:
(dejected) I miss Kinky!
Hello Oleander.
m.e.
Name: Clean Willy
LWilli3287@AoL.com
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 at 11:50:04
Comments:
You folks need a chat room......thought this was about the Dan
Name: The Capital Letter "C"
"C" @ the home for convivial incontinent consonants
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 at 11:16:06
Comments:
Yep, the maj. is correct, the board does seem to convey a contumely, contemptible contingent. I, for one, miss the days of the tours and the confraternity they offered. From the looks of some of these entries one might gather this is a colostomy support board.
Name: rbaby
still here
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 at 11:11:42
Comments:
Oleander: I forgot to say, I am glad we're still talking. I love to hear about your Dan moments, etc.Same to you,YGK.
Name: RubyBaby
kanga1776@aol.com
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 at 11:04:56
Comments:
Major: I had to laugh when you asked us if the sex put us to sleep!I did have a thought or two when I read F's story. One thing was that when you've got kids, sex on the couch becomes a bit rare. Then I lamented that. Then suddenly, the plans to our dream house contained a couch or a chaise-lounge in every room. Thank you, F.
Fezchick: Knew you'd love it! You can wear it with pride any place, but it's very hard to do work in that t-shirt. Trust me.
rbaby
Name: Amy aka "FezChick"
HeeHaw2@hotmail.com
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 at 04:39:52
Comments:
It's been awhile I know, but I had to recover from the after birthday blues.
Hey Geena: What's new with you? Any news from up your way?
Monday was indeed my 36th birthday and it was quite interesting. I was unfortunately visited by a large and hairy hot pink gorilla at work dancing to "Wild Thing". Would have been better if it had been a Dan
tune!Got to go for now!
RubyBaby: I Emailed you. Thanks again for the Tshirt! I'd like to wear it to work today, but . . .
Name: Slimmy Bendix
myoldp@lov@ltine
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 at 23:22:19
Comments:
Oleander--Thanks! Does mean I can start picking up pirate Dan tunes if I hold my jaw just right, or do I need fillings first?
Name: oleander
@workavoidance101
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 at 19:58:25
Comments:
Roy, Fez O'North--My self-imposed grieving period for missing the DanFest East is over. Next time--a livelier place and more, non-strepped, non-strapped personnel. Kudos to you for keeping the flame (and the flav) alive.
Joe--Thanx for your thoughts, as usual. As for any comparison of the Dan & MD, from Davis I get only cold passion--not my style; from Messrs. F & B I get core-of-the-earth heat, however much they have tried to ice, air condition, fan, or otherwise cool it down.
Ruby--Worry not. I'm talking to you, for what it's worth.
Geena--no prob.
Shad--Making love to "Mars Attacks?" Tilt.
Slimmy--ah, grasshopper, you have discovered that the Dan chip has been installed in you, as in all of us, by nanotech through your mouse finger while you idly scrolled the GB....Now YOU ARE ONE OF US....Resistance is futile.
Name: Dan Adams
CMRustici@AOL
Location: Boston, Ma USA
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 at 18:51:52
Comments:
...As I was saying...
It seems to me that "Starz Vanderlocket" is simply another alias of Mr. F. What's the problem Don? Is there some unwritten shame in laying down three (3) vocal tracks for one song? No sir! I know that no matter how many times I hear that raspy tenor of yours, I always want more [(no homosexuality intended), although if your interested Don, I'm your man!)] Speaking of which, I've never actually been with a man before (excluding unconsciousness), but you would certainly be at the top of my "If This, Then That" list. Jeff, of course, would be at the bottom. Speaking of which (segway, what segway?), d'ja ever notice that on the front of "Min. by Min." he's made to cover his face, and on the back his head is cut of completely. Marketing! Go figure!
Kids can be so cruel.
Ta, Dano
Name: Dan Adams
CMRustic@AOL
Location: Boston, MA USA of course
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 at 18:38:29
Comments:
Dear Mr. Fabriani, ah, er, Mr. Fagen;
Name: Kurt
lalapeep@hotmail.com
Location: Novi, MI US
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 at 16:27:45
Comments:
I prefer songs like 'With A Gun'. Songs with more than three or four chords give me a headache. But 'With A Gun' is almost as good as a Tom Petty song or something!
Name: maj.
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 at 14:41:49
Comments:
Can't you see, Walter, the masses are restless. If you don't have any disphoric ditties to share, can you at least throw down some loaves and fishes?
Minah: you're wasting your time.
maj.
Name: an old timer
keeping up with the times
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 at 13:16:41
Comments:
Dear Mr.Mw,
I saw Mr. Steely Dan back in 1973 and Jeff Skunk Baxter was playing Pedal Steel guitar.
At the time I thought it looked and sounded really cool!My qustion to you oh "worldly one" do you now deem the Pedal steel out dated,un-cool and not hip any more?
I'm asking you because you seem to
know what todays music fads are .
Just trying to stay cool
Name: DrMu
One last Mile(s)
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 at 12:41:27
Comments:
JoeM: Your insightful comment: "What I find most fascinating about "KOB" are the notes Miles, Trane,
Cannonball and Evans decided NOT to play" hits the nail right on the head. Indeed, nothing is wasted or excessive. Like the Dias solo in YGT II which sounds improvisational and as close to home and perfect as it gets. Hey the Dan could juggle 3 guitarists (Dias, Carlton, Randall) on one solo as well: Green Earrings!
Even though later on 'Trane did get way out there on his solo work, the lessons of restraint Miles taught him payed dividends. My Dad and I listened to a real soulful and smooth album with Coltrane and Johnny Hartman on vocals recently. Awesome stuff!
Name: DGC
Dcarter@cablessun.com
Location: Concord, CA HUH?? Not sure.
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 at 11:49:58
Comments:
OK, Walt, Don, hows life treatin ya? Good I'm sure. Ya readin this? Doubt it! A little too busy I can understand. But for crying out shit!! Here I am sitting in a freakin box at work with a phone at my ear a computer at my side, Billy Preston playing in my other ear and my finger in my nose.
I'm sick and tired of waiting for this album. I saw you last year in Frisco and you were training some new things, sounds good. Where the hell is it??? You guys said soon, well soon was about a year ago. Don't get me wrong it's got to be right, but you were playing it like a recording at the show, I'm a tad confused.
I'm waiting for some good music to come out and bite me, but I'm finding nothing, NOTHING!! Everybody is playin mindless shit thats depressing or if it's happy you have to be no more than twelve to play. Even then it's still not worth it. Where's the soul! The love for a good fill the joy of a funky groove. What happened? I go out and buy music: Tower Of Power, Mr. Preston, Aretha Franklin, Phoebe Snow, Stevie Wonder, Quincy Jones, etc,,.
They don't come out with new stuff it's all old and if it is new it's dying. Why? Hell why don't we all sample some Sting hits we could go platinum right and left?
Wheres the orginality the passion that comes along with it??? The true love of music the real soul the stuff that gives ya chills??
Maybe it's me?? I'm sitting here writing a band thats named after a dildo. But I'm also being honest. You understand what it's all about, or you seem to atleast. I don't know, get a hold of me let me listen to what you got so far. I'm a young one; not a moron and not deprived of the finer things in life. I'd love to hear what you got so far. Send me an e-mail maybe we could work something out.
Name: DGC
Dcarter@cablessun.com
Location: Concord, CA HUH?? Not sure.
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 at 11:10:36
Comments:
OK, Walt, Don, hows life treatin ya? Good I'm sure. Ya readin this? Doubt it! A little too busy I can understand. But for crying out shit!! Here I am sitting in a freakin box at work with a phone at my ear a computer at my side, Billy Preston playing in my other ear and my finger in my nose.
I'm sick and tired of waiting for this album. I saw you last year in Frisco and you were training some new things, sounds good. Where the hell is it??? You guys said soon, well soon was about a year ago. Don't get me wrong it's got to be right, but you were playing it like a recording at the show, I'm a tad confused.
I'm waiting for some good music to come out and bite me, but I'm finding nothing, NOTHING!! Everybody is playin mindless shit thats depressing or if it's happy you have to be no more than twelve to play. Even then it's still not worth it. Where's the soul! The love for a good fill the joy of a funky groove. What happened? I go out and buy music: Tower Of Power, Mr. Preston, Aretha Franklin, Phoebe Snow, Stevie Wonder, Quincy Jones, etc,,.
They don't come out with new stuff it's all old and if it is new it's dying. Why? Hell why don't we all sample some Sting hits we could go platinum right and left?
Wheres the orginality the passion that comes along with it??? The true love of music the real soul the stuff that gives ya chills??
Maybe it's me?? I'm sitting here writing a band thats named after a dildo. But I'm also being honest. You understand what it's all about, or you seem to atleast. I don't know, get a hold of me let me listen to what you got so far. I'm a young one; not a moron and not deprived of the finer things in life. I'd love to hear what you got so far. Send me an e-mail maybe we could work something out.
Name: mwhirled
shaking my head
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 at 09:02:28
Comments:
charliefreak:
Last post to you, basically because you can't seem to argue without being insulting. Its OK to have 2 different opinions, look around you - it happens every day.
Your analogy is not sound, you're comparing the *invention* of an instrument to the *APPLICATION* of an instrument. I submit that if everybody still PLAYED guitar like Les Paul did 44 years ago it would be a pretty bland world. Music is about an artist's voice, and Steely Dan explored the Phil Spector 'wall of sound', double drummers thing early on. I think that 2 drummers at this point would only serve to take them where they've already been. I, for one, am not sure how much Dan I could stand if every tune sounded like the early tour dates.
mW
Name: Joe M
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 at 08:59:51
Comments:
DrMu and Oleander:
To continue the "KOB" discussion for just a little bit longer...
Doc: Those very simple blues phrases you mentioned and the way Miles et al expand them as melodic explorations pretty much sums up that whole album for me as well. What I find most fascinating about "KOB" are the notes Miles, Trane, Cannonball and Evans decided NOT to play. They already KNOW what notes are implicit, so they instead substitute everything else.Funny you mentioned the great guitar and keyboard solos from the Allman Brothers Band. Dicky Betts, Duane and Gregg Allman listened long and hard to "KOB" by their own account (it was introduced to them via Jaimoe in the late '60's) and has been mentioned by them as a major influence in many interviews over the years. You can't tell me "Stormy Monday" wasn't influenced in a big way by the likes of "KOB".
And the Dan's "Aja" with its modal qualities is certainly informed by "KOB", "Blues and the Abstract Truth" and some of the other modal classics from the late '50's and early '60's IMHO.
Oleander: And brilliant sketches they were indeed! Miles has said that what really brought "KOB" out was Bill Evans approach to the piano. Specifically his Ravel, Khachaturian, Bartok and Rachmaninov influences and his approach to "modes". Just think of what a completely different record "KOB" would've been with say, Wynton Kelly or Red Garland playing throughout (Kelly does appear breifly on "Freddie the Freeloader").
Miles as a bandleader would have to neccesarily fill the role of manipulator to some degree, no? Someone has to keep it all together and make it sound like it's all so effortless. I have to say though that I find Miles to be one of the MOST passionate musicians I've ever heard. What of "Sanctuary" from "Bitches Brew" or "My Funny Valentine" from the Carnegie Hall set?
And I'm clueless as to how Miles is able to juggle that staggering array of keyboardists he utilizes on "In a Silent Way" as well. He had used multiple keyboardists before on "Filles de Kilimanjaro" (Hancock and Corea) although not on the same tune, as far as I know...
Then again, it's all really nothing by Don and Walt standards, now is it. How many keyboardists have THEY utilized in a single piece? The most compelling being Don's - left hand of one keybaordist, right hand of another on "Ruby Baby". Talk about manipulating passion!
Anyone catch a young-ish Phil Woods in the Monk movie "Straight, No Chaser" last night on BRAVO? Man, Monk was some piece of work huh?
Enough already...
Name: YGK
..
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 at 06:25:08
Comments:
Ruby: Gotta love Dr. Katz! I'll check on the piano....
Paul: Hey, Pal, you know, if you want to preach to someone, send 'em mail directly, you know, target your specific market to those who give a shit. I won't burden the GB here much, but hey, Paul, I've been where you are, and jeez, man, if you want to know the Truth, then get the hell out and start thinking for yourself. Keep that crap off the GB, you holier-than-thou moron. I respect what you believe long enough to say, "I'm sorry you're that delusional - now WAKE UP and get over it". OR, at least, keep your 'beliefs' to yourself!
An enlightened Ex-christian,
ygk
Name: Roy.Scam
from my old fruit jar
VA
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 at 05:01:22
Comments:
R.I.P. Carl Perkins- I'm not sure how old I was when I first heard "Blue Suede Shoes" but I still remember thinking, "Damn, that guy's cool for an old fart." (probably mid-twenties). He also did "Matchbox" and "Honey Don't" which influenced and were later recorded by the Beatles. Some other good cuts were "Pink Pedal Pushers" and "Jaive After Five". In later years, I've seen him jammin' with the likes of Clapton, Harrison, Seltzer, and Knopfler [and keeping up!]. He looked and sounded pretty good a few months ago at Monserat, but I guess you never know. A great musician who seemed like a great guy.
But anyway, it's an exciting week: a new Spice Girls movie AND the R&R Hall of Fame Ceremony. I'm stoked shitless.
RS
Name: Charlie Freak
Freaking Out!
Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 at 22:53:18
Comments:
Ok- Minor
44 years ago Les Paul invented The Electric Guitar. Does this mean that in 1998 it's not cool to play it anymore because it's too old?I think the problem with you and alot of people is that they only go by what they read or hear from other people. They don't have a mind of thier own.
If 2 drummers souded good together twenty years ago it doesn't mean it won't sound good today (hence my Les Paul analogy). I hate to beat a dead horse, but I think you're the dead one here, dead wrong,
Freak Out
Name: GOD
pr@yer
Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 at 20:37:00
Comments:
STOP IT!nice job, St. al
Name: Jethro
withthehelpofmissh@th@way
Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 at 20:31:24
Comments:
If it's a little savin' y'all need why don't you mosey on over to our neck of the woods and do your dunkin' in the cement pond. Heck, if it's good enough for Elly's critters it's good enough for all my Steely pals!
Future Beverly Hills Brain Surgeon,
MB Jr.
Name: Geena
katylied@hotmail.com
Location: the snowy, icy northeast,
Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 at 12:18:30
Comments:
Roy.Scam..
Thanks for the info on VH1 and SD..i'll keep my eyes open periodically to see if i can catch it again.
Peace Out...
Name: Geena (SD's junkie girl)
katylied@hotmail.com
Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 at 12:14:06
Comments:
Oleander:
my sincerest apologies regarding my comments and i truly hope no offense was taken. i come in here to read often and was just trying to be a mediator. I agree with you in that i also wish people would think straighter than they do, but as i get older, i've come to the realization that people have always been like this and always will be. It's what makes this world so interesting. We just need to be content with ourselves and enjoy our lives while we're here.
Like yourself, i also enjoy all sorts of people and even though i may not always believe in what they say, i respect their opinion anyway. Again, the bottom line here is love and respect for one another. Enough said..i'm off the subject.
Fez Chick:If it is indeed your birthday, then happy one to you! I haven't seen you around...whatcha been up to?
Name: Rubybaby
rollin' along with the top down
Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 at 09:40:30
Comments:
Eat, drink & be merry, Fezchick! Happy Birthday!!I was playing some Old Regime/Roaring of the Lamb yesterday, (I'm taping some for a friend). My daughter thought Dr. Katz was on. Has anyone else noticed that the beginning bars of Stone Piano and the music to Dr. Katz are exactly the same? Is anyone speaking to me anymore?
future patient of above,
rb
Name: fezofthenorth
hoos.com
Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 at 07:58:41
Comments:
I'm back in the chilly northwest after a rather "King of the Worldish" danfest in Williamsburg Saturday night. Apparently they roll up the sidewalks soon after 8 p.m. in the reconstructed colonial town as Scam and I felt like the sole survivors of Armageddon.
Please note, this tangental religious reference is not meant to spark another discusion of matters spiritual. Why not? See Oleander's last posting which echos my pov, but much more coherently than I could express. "Revelling in diversity" . . . it's a great idea
Klucas: I think I've heard the CD you're talking about. Though I though it had an early version of "Caves of Altamira" from Royal Scam on it as well. Its DF singing but not an authorized release. I think it was culled from some early demos then snuck over as an import.
Whoever asked: The "Black Cow" rap song is Deja Vu by Lord Tarq & Peter Gunz. It was the subject of some earlier postings last week, the contents of which fail me at the moment except for my own which expressed shock after seeing the video for the first time and asked the same question as yours.
Off to stoke the woodstove and dig another hole in the frozen pond.
Fez North
Name: klucas
klucas@acsu.buffalo.edu
Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 at 07:17:02
Comments:
Has anyone out there come across the CD "Becker/Fagen: The Origins of Steely Dan?" Picked it up a few years back, played it once, and forgot about it until a couple of days ago. Ten songs, only one of which - Brooklyn (Owes the Charmer Under Me) - is on a SD record. There are, however, many references to themes that appear later. Sound quality is poor, but vocalist does not sound like Fagen. Just wondering if anyone can vouch for the validity of this effort, and if it is early Dan, when was it done and who is on it?
Name: Post Toastie
n@hh
Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 23:31:13
Comments:
Brother Paul
Anytime you tell someone, "If you could only see yourself as (blank) has allowed me to see you....", you are immediately perceived as either evangelizing or tripping. It doesn't matter who or what "blank" is; by using that pesky word, "only", you are implying that "blank", (in this case, JESUS), has given you exclusive knowledge that you'de be willing to share if "only"....
Only what, Paul? Believe in you? Why should we? Because you are absolutely, positively convinced that you know something we don't?
Here's what I know. The GB was not an "empty room" when you entered it. The Guest Book has many participants and you directed your evangelism specifically to Clas so don't hide behind your "blank". A strong "blank" doesn't whisper, "Tell him I love him." A good "blank" will inspire its follower to say, "I love you"--and in the course of communion, the "blank" will find its own name--but not before men have come to understand their personal salvation lies in their relationships with one another--not in the invocation of a name.
In other words, thank you for your concern. I love you. Does your "blank" trust you enough to speak for yourself?
Compassion and Vision,
*__*
Name: baby wait
huff@squirrel
Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 21:42:38
Comments:
Huffamoose is ok. But the whole animal would be more satisfying.
bw
Name: maj.
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 20:38:29
Comments:
Just wondering....did the sex put you to sleep?
maj.
Name: oleander
I'm OK you're OK
Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 19:35:43
Comments:
I had a feeling that would be more trouble than it was worth. Geena, you're too quick to assume that was a skirmish in a "religious war," and in fact your calling it that is escalation. I revel in diversity, especially the nutty variety here on the GB, and anybody can say what they want. But my point is that I wish people would think a little straighter when they do--and consider what their well-meant words signify to others. What one person sees as sharing the (THE) truth may be aggression to another. Is this not obvious? Neither is wrong nor right, and "keeping score" is irrelevant. Then you have to assume that people care, which I have the unfortunate predilection for doing. And the sad thing is that I enjoy all sorts of people; I would probably enjoy hanging out with Paul at the virtual cocktail party in that big room--if we kept to certain things. Roy, I'm no zealot--in fact, I also make a distinction between "religion" and "spirituality," and though I am part of an organized religion my practice is spiritual. You dig? And I'm off this tip. Next time I scroll.
Joe--What I really wanted to talk about was KOB. It's the ultimate snapshot of giants at the pinnacle of their game, and it boggles to think that they were making it all up as they went along. It sounds so smooth, so well-produced, so Dannish, but--first take! No charts!--just "sketches." Staggering. I also love "In A Silent Way"--which is no surprise considering my fondness for Mahavishnu-era John McLaughlin. What a difference a decade makes, eh? Do you--does anybody know how Mr. Davis juggled three keyboardists on a 20-minute tune? ("Hey, Joe, wanna fill in for me while I go for Chinese take-out?" "OK, Chick. Bring me some egg rolls.") About Miles Davis--I have never been able to connect to his "ness," the being from which the music flowed. He was a genius all right, but his power seemed so walled-off and calculating. (This is aside from his reputation for misogyny.) Coltrane, Parker, Tyner, so many more, I can feel come through the music, but not Miles Davis. Great as he was, he always has impressed me as a manipulator of rather than a conduit for passion. Oh man--I'm NOT trying to sound like a jazz critic. It's just something that's always nagged at me. What do you think?
Name: FezChick
Who R these scoundrels who scheme & run wild
Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 19:22:51
Comments:
"Live and let live."
We need to move on to another topic besides religion!
I think it only natural that The Dan GB would attract a huge variety of people with various religious and spiritual backgrounds. That's what makes Dan Fans such interesting people. Wouldn't we be a boring group of people if we were all alike?Has anyone stumbled upon a new "RAP" song played quite frequently on MTV that uses "Black Cow" as their background music? I haven't caught the name of the song, but was surprised that Walt and Don gave their blessing on this.
Does anyone have the scoop on this?
Name: ANDREW BRUCE
THX0778@AOL.COM
Location: WAUWATOSA, WI USA
Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 18:24:30
Comments:
IM A BIG STEELY DAN FAN AND I WAS WONDERING IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING ON VIDEO OR ANY BOOTLEGS BESIDES "ALIVE IN AMERICA"?MAIL ME BACK IF YOU CAN.
Name: Scott
scott_cubs23_sd@hotmail.com
Location: Point Lookout, MO USA
Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 18:07:05
Comments:
It was still be September (1998)
and we'll be waiting for the new cd.
Name: Scott
scott_cubs23_sd
Location: Point Lookout, MO USA
Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 18:05:19
Comments:
It was still be September (1998)
and we'll be waiting for the new cd.
Name: Waiting (Im)Patiently For The
New CD
Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 12:59:39
Comments:
Has any heard of this new band Huffamoose? The critics are going nuts over them and almost every review compares them to Steely Dan. I've heard a couple of songs, "Wait" and "James", and while they're pretty good, they don't sound like Steely Dan. Okay, there's a little intelligence, cleverness, catchy hooks and some insider jazz-geek stuff going on in their music, but it's a sad state of affairs that the critics are always looking for "The Next Steely Dan" when the real one is out there somewhere supposedly working on a new album. I want the real thing. Donald & Walter, you're driving me nuts. Can you at least post a demo or something on your website? Send me a sign!
Name: Roy.Scam
back on earth
Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 12:38:02
Comments:
Paul: Liked the empty room analogy. Very well put. The rest of the message was a bit of an enigma to me.
Geena: I'm not good at religion and have nothing to offer in that area. (although I enjoy watching it and sometimes wish I could get as much of a kick out of it as others seem to). However, I think I can offer some enlightening testimony in the area of this VH-1/Steely Dan thing. I was fortunate enough to tape part of an "Eight Track Flashback" segment that features a brief essay on the early efforts of SD, showing the movie poster for the Richard Pryor film "You've Gotta Walk It Like You Talk It.." for which B&F wrote the soundtrack. Then they show a tape of a 1973 stage performance of "Reelin'..". It's fun to watch: Baxter and Palmer (looking a lot like Roger Daltry) are hoofing around the stage flambuoyantly; while Becker and Dias look like they're trying to achieve total motionlessness. Fagen is off to the side doing his usual excellent lead vocals, and some WWF -looking guy is playing drums. The chorus is six part harmony except for the first round of "..are you reelin..." during which it appears that Fagen watches while the other five sing. The guitar solo is done by Dias and Baxter; Elliot Randall, who did the legendary studio solo, was not there. (Am I correct in saying that Randall never did play live with Steely Dan?). It's an old tape, truncated at the beginning and end, but it's worth watching for, and Fagen is terrific.
Fez: Safe trip back to the cold Northwest.
RS
Name: PPPaulCCC, last post and I'm outta here
Knooster@aol.com
Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 11:27:21
Comments:
Hello dear ones,Such wrath! I can't say that I'm surprised. There is a huge difference though between trying to convert someone and just sharing the Truth.
This GB is like walking into a large room to speak to someone who isn't there, but may be there soon. When you get there, the echo of what someone else has said is there but the person isn't. My first post a couple of days was to Clas and was intended to be explanation to him rather than evangelizing him. Clas called my home in a very dismayed state. I told Clas that I liked him (and I do) and he could not understand how I could. I tried to explain over the phone but his English, although very good, was out of sync with my manner of speaking. I told him that I would post further explanation to him on the GB.
Clas is no different from the rest of us. We all need Love and respect. The ultimate Love is Jesus. Jesus is the cure for whatever ails us, all of us. This is because we are born into sin and can't ever escape sin without Jesus.
I have not testified of these things to convert but rather out of compassion. I don't want anyone to believe like I do. I want people to know that Jesus loves me and everyone else. Karl Marx is the opiate, Jesus is the cure.
Oleander, as for being sensitive because you are a Jew and the rest of the stuff that you're angry about I apologize for all those Christians you've met who failed to truly share the love of Christ with you. Jesus loves you, have you ever really given him a chance? If you give him a chance and you don't like Him, you could always change your mind and go back to where you are now.
If you're keeping score, don't it's not appropriate. My time is up. Love to you all.
Paul C.
Name: Geena
katylied@hotmail.com
Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 07:42:37
Comments:
i'm not going to take anyone's side on the religious war that's going on in this GB...We all know these conflicts have been going on for years in the Middle East and Northern Ireland and no one is making any compromises yet. Much of the hatred in this world is caused by religious differences; and correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't most religious based on love and mutual respect?
as a former radio announcer turned diversity educator, i've learned from listening to others that one cannot push their beliefs on another as this is soon becomes fodder for major conflicts.
Respect one another for who we are and not for who or what we believe in.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Now...getting back to what i really came in here for...would someone please tell me about this VH1 and Steely Dan thing?
Name: but who's counting?
not me....
Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 03:31:55
Comments:
THE SCORE
JEWS 1CHRISTIANS 0
NEXT UP...... PPPPaulCCC
Name: Hardgroove
sleepingwiththeenemy
Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 01:38:30
Comments:
Shad@ct
You're obviously a brainwashed alien sleeping with an earthling. Don't Panic! Wash your hands, dry them, wait a minute and see if you repeat the process. You could harbor guilt over your alien ancestory! Now, check your watch. Are you missing time since you had that casual, albeit, alien sex with your so-called "girlfriend"? Whoa! Let's hope you're beginning to remember something--even if it's just how to RUN AWAY QUICKLY! There's right-wingers monitoring this site that would just love to watch your little Paula Jones GO DOWN ON YOU RIGHT HERE! I hope you're not married or the governor of Mizar VI. Have you visited any Chicken Farms in Arkansas lately? Do you work the SAXAPHONE?
Don't Play Just What You Feel,
Mech@ck & @bedn@go
Name: Milford Steeler
onw@rd@ndupw@rd
Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 at 22:24:43
Comments:
oleander
amen
Name: oleander
over it
Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 at 18:41:30
Comments:
Paul--All right. I've had it. I very rarely flame on this GB, but....May I expand on my comment to you? A wise person would realize that there is no single "cure" for everyone's problems; I'm a doctor and even I know that. And your last comment to me is inane, baseless, and insulting. Nobody really knows what anyone else really "died for." That's your belief. To repeat what I've said before: I am particularly sensitive to this sort of thing (read: pissed off) as a Jew. Christians are alla time trying to "convert" us, because they think the Messiah will come when we all renounce our Judaism. Last year, a couple of Baptists went to our rabbi's house on Saturday (Shabbat) with their Bibles for a chat--which was like spitting in his face. They were just trying to offer a "cure" for his "problems." You can say and believe whatever you want; just take your "cure" somewhere else. A funny thought about you on the GB: if you met Donald Fagen, would you tell him Jesus died for him? Never mind; I know the answer. And read carefully what Milford said below.
Name: Stalphonzo
stalfnzo@seanet.com
Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 at 11:47:20
Comments:
Hey now! Please take a moment to follow the link at the top of this page. I need your feedback on whether we should keep this new GB format or go back to the old. Also, Dave Sorrenti has put a Visual Basic front end on the Decoder program so you no longer need to have Access 97 to run it. Download it now!
http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/software.html
shad@ct
the united states
Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 at 05:54:26
Comments:
A Donald Fagen Moment?
A while back there was some hoopla surrounding the mysterious similarities between Pink Floyd's "dark side of the moon" recording and the 1939 movie classic "the wizard of oz"
perpetuated primarily by the people at MTV.
they contended that if you dub the afforementioned cd over the movie you'll discover spooky coincedences.well, a couple of weeks back my girlfriend and i happened to rent the movie "mars attacks" from our friendly neighborhood block busters video store.
we got home. i slipped "Kamakiriad" into the cd player(as i usually do when i get in) hit continuous play, just as my girlfriend did the same with the video.
she then dimmed the lights and accompanied me on the couch.we had sex.
when i awoke the scene in the film was of a martian disguised as a voluptuous blonde babe seducing a clueless earthling male....
and what do you think was playing off of Kamakiriad at this precise moment?
you guessed it ! "tomorrows girls"!
coincidence?
i think not!
i say conspiracy.peace out F
Name: johnboy
he@thens
Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 at 02:27:02
Comments:
Coming soon to the guestbook....Ernest Angley
Name: Richard Macphail
richmag@compuserve.com
Location: London, England
Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 at 02:08:20
Comments:
Hello It's great to visit this site.
Any chance of another UK SD visit soon?
Bye for now
Richard
Name: Milford Steeler
g@ngsteroflove
Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 at 01:49:42
Comments:
Clas is out for the evening.
I saw him through binoculars. I may have been looking through the wrong ends, but I swear they were binoculars.
Anyway, I was looking through something I was holding near my face that someone told me would give me clearer vision.
When I turned around, the voice that told me that was gone! It was all so clear: "If you could see yourselves as these thing-a-ma-jigs allow me to see you, you'de be just like me."
Worship Your Losses--Just Don't Ring My Doorbell,
* __ *
Name: chicky
bl@h
Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 at 01:33:49
Comments:
clas...
that is bullshit! you are the fucking goods! everyone loves you clas!
your pal sal
Name: The Joker
With joke of the day
Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 at 01:12:44
Comments:
Hey Clas-Do you know who likes you?(Scroll down for answer)
Name: The Joker
With the answer
Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 at 01:08:48
Comments:
NOBODY!!!!!!!!
Name: PPPaulCCC, still de-lurked, but not for long so rest easy...
KNOOSTER@aol.com
USA now, Heaven, someday!!!
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 22:56:27
Comments:
Dear friend Clas, I hope you understood my post even if others didn't quite get it. Don't read Karl Marx, OK. Instead, some advice, which I certainly will follow, "Read some Truth, that is, grab a Bible and get free."If you all could see yourselves the way Jesus has let me see you, how different your lives would be.
Paul C.
PS-Oleander, Jesus died for you, too.
Name: rubybaby
out of the pan, into the fire
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 22:10:35
Comments:
Clas: It's here! Sketches & Strange Loops just arrived today! I'm listening to Fire In Venice now. I love it! I especially like that Bodhisattva thing you added at the end, you rascal! You really are a true artist. (That must be why you're such a moody bastard). I've been trying to get a hold of you, but I just get a recording (that I don't understand!) At least e-mail me & let me know you are OK.Technicolormotorhomeguy: I've been called an air-head before, but never somebody who thinks EVERYONE ELSE is an air-head. Funny, I never thought of you as an old gas bag. Should I? (I can't, cause you're not)
*@*: Where are all the instant friends I'm supposed to have? Just last fall, a "friend", who's also a Christian came to my house. They happen to see an empty wine bottle on the kitchen counter and they never spoke to me again. Christians & non-Christians alike are about equal when it comes to judgements.
They just look at different stuff.Did you feel like Jesus?
rb
Name: Slimmy, Son of William
extr@sensory
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 22:06:07
Comments:
I can't get away from you lunatics! I was out on the town makin' some grand entrances and feelin' like I had a transistor when what happens but I jump in my car, twist the key and "Home at Last" comes blazin' out of my speakers like SOMEBODY left the CD on pause. The thing was, though, that Aja was at home where I left it. This was the RADIO! I believe the world IS ready for a new offering from the Dan...
Slim
Name: DrMu
The Mechanized Hun
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 21:27:30
Comments:
Aye yi yi, look at this GB: drugs, depression, mental instability, anger, frustration acrimonious wisecracks, passionate women. Hey, wait a minute...could be a Dan song.
Roy: Enjoy. Remember this after a few drinks. There's some seriously OLD window glass in Williamsburg. That stuff's a fluid ya know.
Good King Richard: Took a couple of serious listens to So What (it helped me get over my obsession with All Blues). I can understand why you and Joe M revere this number. Kind of Blue is the most recent addition to the bin. As usual there's tremendous teamwork and Miles is one hell of a leader/manager. On this albume each song is built on very simple blues phrases and expanded as melodic explorations (kind of like the Dan). It seems more linear but perhaps in a way more complex. I wish I was a musician. Maybe some of the great guitar and keyboard solos from the Allman Bros. and Steely Dan owe something to this album. What strikes me though is the interplay between the members like their in a conversation. Awesome... Paul Chambers' bass calls to Bill Evans, Miles, Adderly, Coltrane and they respond..and they trade leads back and forth and changing keys effortlessly. Yes JoeM, Miles laid down the law, broke it and built a whole new world.
This has thinking about the "dream team" mentioned by Kranky and CharlieFreak. How about the group that played the LAST Dan studio song TWM: Sample, Carlton, Rainey, Gadd, Mounsey? I could see the technical wizardry of Holdsworth on a Beckeresque tune (Erskine might be appropriate for the drummer here also). I just like hearing Joe Sample and Larry Carlton work together again (y'know, the TEAM concept).
I don't know what to make of the Lawson/Kratz in the studio rumors? Perhaps a rock sound? My limited view comes from the '96 tour. WB and DF sounded calm and crisp and strong. The good news: they sounded like the best musicians there! The Bad news: they sounded like the best musicians there! Whadda I know...
Name: maj.
frontier@uscom.com
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 19:55:10
Comments:
Have fun, all you Williamsburg Citizens. And if you want to be "in the know" about Chownings - remember to pronounce it like "Chew-nings" as in rhymes with "Sew" (like to sew a dress). I'll be sure to drink my morning java from my authentic Chownings mug tomorrow.
"...William and Mary won't do..."
maj.
Name: Dr. Hardgroove
rel@pse
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 16:17:00
Comments:
Mr. Clas
How I envy you. Twenty years tracking the big biker and he invites you out for a steak dinner with the lovely Lisa in tow. And you don't even own one Webelo badge! I was an Explorer scout for God's sake! Oh well, I guess it will take time to earn the Eskimo's trust. Please update me on all the juicy tidbits of your encounter. Does he really have six fingers on his left hand? Is his nose flared flat to his face like a manta ray on the ocean floor? How many times did you fear for your life? Did he insist on paying the tab with the next table's credit card? How much blood did you see before you passed out? How does Lisa contain him?
Sigh
Doc
Name: Aja
sierraluna@juno.com SIERRALUNA@prodigy.net
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 15:41:33
Comments:
Bryan,
Email I sent to you bounced back, so check to see if it is correct. Rather than make you wait, I just post it here. Welcome! Treat yourself to the remastered Box Set. If you are a member of BMG music services they usually have it for around 30 including shipping and handling. If that's too much for you try Decade or Gold (the expanded version), which will give you a little bit of their older and newer stuff. Donald Fagen's Nightfly and Kamamkiriad as well as Walter Becker's 11 Tracks of Whack are also great solo works (with a little help from each other).Of course check out the official site at www.steelydan.com. It's hilarious and informative. Many of the jokes are layered on older jokes so I recommend going to the site guide and to an archived
home page and start navigating from there. There is also an excellent FAQ. Check out the site guide and links pages for sound clips of songs. If you have any other questions feel free to email me.LAST CALL FOR~~~~~****ORLANDO DANFEST****~~~~~~
So far all I have received are "not able to attend", if I don't get at least on person to RSVP with a "I'll be there" then I won't be there myself (THE MILL, Sat. 17, 8:30PM...). I have to try organizing something for Spring possibly, that is unless Kinky's yanking my chain. Earlier this week I had a nice chat on the phone with a DanFan in town on business, nice to hear from ya, call anytime.Aja
Name: fezofthenorth
hoos.com
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 14:48:47
Comments:
Roy:
I will be there tomorrow evening, hotel is booked and all that. See ya at 6:30. I'll be the one wearing The Simpson's tie.
Lisa; hope you're feeling better soon; we'll have to schedule a Danfest 2 in the future so you can join the fray in person. Maybe to coincide with a summer concert appearance . . .
Fez North
Name: Schwinn
knockinonhe@thensdoor
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 14:16:54
Comments:
Clas--there's nothing wrong with you a Manhatter cooked medium rare won't cure. Lisa and I will be by at the stroke of midnight. Please dress lightly. The bike runs hot. Also, wear your loudest shirt--I'm running straight pipes and need to carry a diversion. Don't worry. I've promised the Kid I won't kill you unless you talk about Jesus or not drinking heavily.
Rollin' Cubans,
SEMB
Name: Roy.Scam
rmoats6211@aol.com
Virginia
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 13:08:29
Comments:
et tu lisa? -- O.k., take care of that throat; you may need to sing when we hold you to that re-visit in the near future. We will accept artwork as penance (what medium?).
To everyone else in the Williamsburg vicinity tomorrow: Chowning's Tavern, 6:30 PM. It's on Duke of Gloucester St. in Colonial Wburg, right across from the armament magazine. Fez, are you still coming? Bruce Hornsby? Patrick Henry?
oleander: I agree that Terminator 2 was a great (albeit mainstream Hollywood) movie, especially the nuked playground scene. Linda Hamilton - A face from heaven, a body from Flo Jo and an attitude from Charles Bronson.
My son got the new Ben Folds Five album (Naked Baby Pictures) the first day it was out. I haven't fully digested it yet but it's not entirely serious: a lot of live performances, early demos (I think they call those rarities), and general goofing off, even some things they're ashamed of are included for historical purposes or just to make fun of themselves. It's the kind of collection I'd like to see Steely Dan release some time, but, of course, they're too self conscious.
One number that stuck in my head was an hilarious improvised sendup of rap music called "For Those of You who wear Fanny Packs". (Yo, my boys blew the Beasties right out of the house when it comes to mock rap, you know what I'm saying?).RS
Name: lisa
showbizkid@yahoo.com
Location: dirty, lowdown
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 12:10:27
Comments:
dearest roy scam, mr. fez of the frozen north, & periphery:
how cruel and shitty can life be??
i have just received a call from my doctor's office confirming my rather nasty case of strep...two fuckin' weeks back at school and i'm already sick...i am crushed that i will be unable to attend the shindig tomorrow...i'm not sure which is worse, the smothering disappointment or the invisible sword in my throat... perhaps they are equally distasteful.
(hoping to redeem myself)
i MUST make a trip to virginia in the next four weeks to pick up some of my artwork for a showing...can we possibly get together for a "danfess 2"? i promise nothing could keep me from it, and i will be appropriately humble with party favors in hand.
hanging my head,
annie b. otic
Name: Phelonious
FordFactory
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 12:03:19
Comments:
Mr L: I agree on your take of BF5. Joe Jackson is who came
to my mind as well. One other thing that bothers me. Somehow,
the backing vocals sound alot like Paul and Linda McCartney.
Am I just hearing shit? I like the BF5 CD but it doesn't scratch
any SD itch I have. AJA to Gaucho, nice progression. Gaucho to "?", we'll see. As far as the drummers go, personally I hope
the horns make to the new one.Good bye Michael Hedges.
Name: Mynah
Hopefully putting the Lawson thread to bed.
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 11:55:29
Comments:
Charliefreak:
I think you and I have a bit of unfinished business. It seems to me that you come here piloting the family MagnavoxĐ through cyberspace, flame-thrower blazing, ready to take on all who disagree with you - That's fine. But let me offer one bit of advice which you may or may not want to ponder. Get to know those you address here before you strike up a conversation/offer offensive remarks. When you responded to my remarks to Kinky I assumed that you were hip to our ongoing tongue-in-cheek battle about Lawson. If you had lurked here for a while you'd see that my whole Lawson-bagging thing has been going on for over a year (thus the Milkman's 'caddy' remark), as Minah plays the guy who was driven crazy by Lawson in '96 (thus my Prozac comment). A not so serious thread to be sure. While it is true that Lawson was a let down (for me) compared to the '93 and '94 tours, I tend to agree with Dr. Whatever in his/her assessment of Lawson -a steady, professional player who IMO, didn't offer much exciting to the gig. My point = don't assume everything you read here is real/serious - that's a really bad idea. Anyway, glad to debate the double drummers thing ad-nauseam as I still think the 'time of its time has come and gone'.
mW
Ps. and try not to piss off Milkman, he/she's in my golf foursome and can make life miserable for Ricky when he caddys…
Name: ottski toby
ottskitobinski@arnault.com
Location: hornell, ny usa
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 11:41:32
Comments:
whats thhis steely dan i have been hearing about?
i hear they are pretty good..
clue me in to some album names i can purchase...thanks a lot..
a dan fan to be...
BRYAN OTTO ARNAULT
Name: oleander
bad case of GB heartburn
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 10:34:27
Comments:
Hello from email hell! I've been trying to do the right thing by using a nonprofit community server, but volunteer tech support SUCKS! Back to the big boys!
Clas--Whatever you're doing--STOP IT! And leave my sword out of this! You're such a cool dude when you're sober and happy. That shit will kill you--take it from a "professor" and get back here! PS--I thought the "Terminator" movies were great, especially Linda Hamilton buffed and with a surf and/or die attitude.
Mr. La--Wish I could take the credit! I can't remember who either, but I got the first BFF after a post of Roy's when I went to Atlanta in Sept. Listened with glee all the way home.
Minor--thanks for the tale. Sounds idyllic. Sigh....
Paul--A wise man takes his own advice.
dr whatever--which horsepistol do you frequent?
Daisuke--Welcome and hang in there.
Roy et al.--Have a good time tomorrow.
Name: CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
fuck!
Location: muted Censored fuck,
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 06:05:23
Comments:
Becker, do you have some heroin to give me? Need to sleep!
Th only thing I have is Blue Valium, does not help any longer. You know the situiation?
Name: muted
muted
Location: muted,
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 06:00:38
Comments:
Daisuke Saka; When you look at me, why are you skewing?
Name: R.O.C.K
in amerigo
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 05:49:44
Comments:
Saluuutos comprades! I am rocking in fucking ST Monica!
Sī that something Pat? I like to do like you, fuck with a cybergirl!
Name: R.O.C.K. in south america
PAT "BREMNER"
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 05:10:50
Comments:
Dr Whatever; whatever you wrote, itīs ok. I think I remember that it was something good. Thank you very mucho SIR! Do you live in Watts?
Thorazine? You have to take it every day, if you miss one day, does not matter. Did you not you know that fuckhead? (Oleander knows, sheīs a professor)
Mr LA PAGE, the new year is treating me real bad, I drank yesterday. For being sober for eight months it feels real bad. Can you understand that? Mr Empire? Can you offer me a cig?
PAT; Do you remember when you called those fuckheads on this Site Morons, "do they never listen to the lyrics? " Remember?
KINKY; you have a dick?
FUCK JACKSON BROWNE
Name: Amy aka "FezChick"
You might use it when you feel better . . .
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 04:38:22
Comments:
Good morning all Dan Fans!
Welcome to the Guestbook Daisuki!
Glad to know The Dan has made fans all over the world!Hi Geena! What about this place? I haven't been on in few days and everyone's gone crazy!
RubyBaby: Still waiting on your Email! Looking forward to owning a Steely Dan Tshirt!
Oleander: Going to Louisville in a few weeks. Looking forward to some good cuisine and entertainment!
Good day to all! Earnin' nice wages . . .
Name: c@w
@Village of the sun
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 at 04:01:17
Comments:
PAT; So you are messing with me? Are you on POT (CANNABIS) again? Raising turkeys? You are ei lakey, you know that?
Donīt you remember when we used to be friends? Are the LAKEkey-pressure too hard on you these days?And remember; when I drink, I drink. Not hard, just HARD. Liek Walter Becker. But I donīt do heroin.
C.l.a.s.
Name: Dai