Name: kelvin scott
kscotty@webtv.net
Location: joliet, il us
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 23:11:38
Comments:
i think steely dan is the best jazz,pop band
of all time no one could ever top ya"deacon blue"kid charlemane
"peace"
Name: DrMu
likearollingstone
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 22:27:50
Comments:
Mitch: Thanks for the sentiments. It was beef soup and 'roids for our boys...no, none of them know any Contras directly as far as I knew. The Contras were appreciated, but working class thug-type. The folks I knew were part of the rather large (for a Central American country) and at that time ex-patriated middle class - they would have NEVER, NEVER mixed. It's easy to forget despite what we see every day that the US of A is one of the LEAST class conscious countries on this planet...but then I FORGOT that Oliver Stone makes such believable NON-FICTON like JFK and Nixon.
Name: mitch
rent the movie Salvador
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 22:05:46
Comments:
DR.MU, Sorry you didn`t score with the 2 babes from Managua.I`M not surprised by the brothers though, they ate steak every fuckin day from illegal U.S. money siphoned from your boys the CONTRAS. Did you know that they were Coke dealers, (allowed to operate) by night and body builders by day? Rent Oliver Stone`s SALVADOR. james Woods,and Jim Belushi, great movie and the Reaganites hated it.
Name: Babs
in CA
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 22:01:14
Comments:
First, who is this other "Babs" at "skool"? You're not me, though it appears that you may have fooled a few.
Second. All this political talk - maybe I should go watch the news and learn something new. BTW, was it ever determined whether or not BJ = sex? Uh...I kinda need to know.
Name: DrMu
wordfromMrChurchhill'sear
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 21:34:31
Comments:
Mitch:
Glad I could evoke both cerebral and limbic responses within a few minutes of each other! The Contras were our own "Oliver's Army," but they allowed liberty to prevail in Nicaragua which is now free from Ortega now with a strong democracy and economy. Mountainous and beautiful Nicaragua is much more "developed" than many of her neighbors such Honduras and Panama. I know a bit about her from some neighbors and friends in Baton Rouge over 10 years ago - a dual tale of unrequited lust. Baton Rouge had lots of folks living there from East Asia (Indonesia, Vietnam) as well as Central and South America. Some were going to school there. Others had business connections (oil, shipping,etc.). The weather and humidity were close to home. Anyway, there were two girls in particular who I was enamored with one summer...they live in separate complexes and did not know each other - both were absolutely gorgeous and were fine conversationalists. Both told me of similar atrocities to their families, friends, and towns at the hands of Ortega and the Sandanistas (imagine Oklahoma City going on every week)...as they were from different towns in Nicaragua and did not know each other, I swear by every word. Mercedes (accent on 3rd syllable) was as sweet as she could be and had a soft lyrical voice, creamy soft skin, flowing brunette hair and coal black eyes along with a delicate curvaceous figure. I would "conveniently" bump into her by the pool. I finally thought I was making some real progress (I think she may have even liked me), when her "twin" brothers "Lou" and "Chang" began to wave at me more and became quite chatty. I'm solid, but compact (ex-wrestler-type), but these guys were massive with bulging forearms and foreheads. What I thought, foolishly and initially, was approval, was in reality their way of keeping a close eye on me. In the most polite and subtle ways possible that this gringo was SOL. I remember Mercedes looking back at me with THAT LOOK while her bothers whisked her away to a party one time. Then suddenly and miracuously (sp?) her boyfriend appeared out of the jungle a few weeks later. The other young lady from Nicaragua had sandy hair, dark and smoky eyes with the finest compact chassis this side of Body by Fisher. The fact of the matter was she just strung me along for weeks with maybe’s until she left me in a fetal heap by the road clutching my innermost thoughts.
Name: casual observer
outside the Beltway
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 21:30:31
Comments:
Funny how the times change people. If Richard Nixon was faced with scandal after scandal, You phony motherfuckers would have fried his Quaker ass, wouldn`t you?
Name: George Stephanopolis
former top advisor
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 21:03:26
Comments:
Dave, My former boss was very intelligent,he is like a C.E.O. to a corporation. He doesn`t have core beliefs though ,and is easily influenced by the latest polls. Its a shame that with peace and prosperity that his Presidency is under such scrutiny. His weakness for women and a history of lying is going to be the things that people remember of his Administration. p.s. I`M glad i got the fuck out when i did. Little George.
Name: Schwinn
inanutshell
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 20:57:39
Comments:
Confucious say: "The Dog is brought to power in the 11th hour." For those of you unfamiliar with Chinese astrology, Bill Clinton is this nation's ONLY president born in the year of the Dog. (1946 and factors of 12 thereof).
The Dog (the equivalent of western astrology's Libra) does appear to be a fence sitter. But history will see him otherwise. He is the "foundation" of the home. The "glue" that binds the wood, rock and mortar until the decorators can fuss over color schemes. Yes, he will jump in your lap and lick your face. If he stains your nice dress, well, don't forget that he is always ready to alert you to REAL danger--and that has very little to do with Monica Lewinsky.
Name: davedownuner
gonna sell my house in town
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 19:46:07
Comments:
Lisa, Oleander, et. al., the tar heel connection to the guest book is really pretty interseting. Chapel Hill, Asheville, etc. When I was in Chapel Hill (class of '76) our favorite dan line was about ".. smokin' with the boys upstairs," because we were always, "smokin' with the boys (and girls) upstairs. Our ultimate Carolina roots head a little farther east. Hatteras, Manteo, Okracoke.. all great places to be.
Clinton Bashers: say what you like about the guy, but don't call him an idiot. Ivy League, Rhodes Scholar, two brilliant campaigns for President. Making the government shutdowns look like they were Newt's fault. He's anything but stupid.
CountZ: Hunter Thompson, gonzo journalist, once said of my chosen field: "The TV business is a shallow, plastic money trench where pimps and theives run free, and good men die in the streets like dogs." Dr. Thompson so often, says it all.
Katy L.: I'm heading home. hope you are feeling better (I am)
Name: mitch
no friend of Daniel Ortega
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 19:32:32
Comments:
DR. MU: Granted the Sandinista`s were failures. When Reagan used to heep praises on the Contras I didn`t know if to laugh or throw-up, what a fuckin joke they and Ollie North were. Real Democracy there pal!
Name: mitch
Dr. Mu on Meet the Press
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 19:07:09
Comments:
Dr. MU: Your post on "justice" may have been the most informative article i`ve seen on the G.B. I`m also a Democrat, but most importantly an American. I go along with you that Clinton is a great domestic politician, as far as foreign Policy goes , he is neither feared or reveared. The world knows he has a knee-jerk reactionary style,but no gameplan. He certainly had a Chamberlain type tone in China. He is looking at the massive trade potential there. I`M sure he is concerned about his legacy. India has every right to show her strength. If Clinton could be a factor in the stalled Mid-East negotiations, maybe the Israeli Prime Minister would negotiate. Only Israel could break treaties (Oslo) and not get sanctions ,they operate by their own set of rules, and without worry of U.S. pressure. Final thought on foreign policy Richard M. Nixon had no peers. As a kid in the 60`s i never thought i`d say that. I wonder if midlife crisis is next....?
Name: DrMu
towelling off
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 18:15:35
Comments:
Sorry about the long post...besides a few typos, a corection under POINT 4: Perjury resulting from CIVIL suits has beenrarely prosecuted ironically until the Clinton administration
Name: DrMu
towelling off
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 18:14:33
Comments:
Sorry about the long post...besides a few typeos, a corectio under POINT 4: Perjury resulting from CIVIL suits has beenrarely prosecuted ironically until the Clinton administration
Name: DrMu
Is there any Justice??
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 18:10:12
Comments:
"Where is the outrage?" Just think, if we had listened to Dole and Ruby, Norm McDonald would still have a job
re: Goody King Ronny vs. Good King Bill
Points to remember (I'm a registered Dem for whatever it’s worth)
1. The Democratic Congress wrote the Special Counsel ordinances designed to oversee and investigate matters which the Justice Department cannot due to conflict of interest
2. The Department of Justice (i.e., Janet Reno) hires the Special Presecutor and can fire him or her.
3. Lying by itself, while reprehensible by itself, is not and offense which results in criminal prosecution or with the President impeachment unless it is a SWORN statement or done UNDER OATH in a court of law. The NATURE OF THE PERJURY IS IRRELEVANT in the court's eyes. This is still a nation of law and citizen's right's (i.e., the Bill of Rights which limits the Federal gov'ts power over it's citizens).
4. This being a nation of law, laws are malleable by precedence. My point is that perjury was rarely pursued by prosecutors ironically until the Clinton administration. The Paula Jones case was a Civil case (BTW, it's also irrelevant that it's been thrown out - the statements were still under oath). However, if Clinton perjures himself in the August 17 hearing, the this will be in a criminal case and he should be prosecuted to the fullest. The Nixon lesson is that there is no imperial presidency: no President is above the law, now matter how good he/she looks on the tube. Evidence of obstruction of justice would provide strong reason to CONSIDER impeachment.
5. Conviction of a president of a "high crime or misdemeanor" takes place through the mechanism of impeachment. Thus it ONLY THEN becomes a political process (remember Andrew Johnson almost got impeached for being incompetent essentially). One thing to consider is how does the accusation(s) affect the welfare of the nation? Here a behavioral pattern with HARD EVIDENCE must be presented pertaining to obstruction of justice (at any time), "filegate," travelgate," Whitewater, and/or "Chinagate." The potential exchange of campaign contributions for favors including missle technology and most favored nation status is treason, as far as I'm concerned. Do you all really think that India tested their device only because of Pakistan? China’s has been disputing the borders with India for hundreds and hundreds of years. I hope for the best, but we had better not pull a Chamberlain on Chian.
6. The Iran-Contra hearing were PURELY POLITICAL...and that's not ncessarily wrong. It was designed to expose and errant and misguided POLICY: trading arms for $$ with the Ayatollah. While the idea to back the Contras was in hindsight correct as the Sandanistas were 2-bit Third World commies and terrorists; however, the mechanisms, while not illegal in anyway was immoral. The end does not justify the means. The resolution I think was satisfactory. I'm not sure about Reagan's memory after 1986,...besides he was a hands-off executive who gave guidance and agendas, but did not dally in the details - he took naps instead. A good number of his domestic and foreign policies (delaing with Gorbachev were sound - he had the vision thing. Clinton on the other hand, may be one of the most masterful politicians of our Century (see numerous works on his mentor Edwin Edwards of Louisisana), but he has no vision...but what the hell, the market's nearing 10,000 right?
Name: Hey Ruby
@Peoples Court
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 17:28:22
Comments:
Washington D.C.=BIG BOOK OF LIARS!!!
Right on RONALD!
Name: RubyBaby
w@ke up!
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 17:15:55
Comments:
PatJazz: Love the Black Cow Theory. If it's true, it's not out-dated yet!Question to all: What would you do if you knew a government official was a triator to our nation? What if you knew he was using his high position to undermine the freedom for which so many have given their lives? What if you knew he was out to divide our nation, causing it to be weak, while at the same time demoralizing our military? What if you saw that distruction from within was the biggest danger of all? And what if you were in a position to do something about it?
Ken Starr doesn't care about blow jobs. He wants to get a traitor and a criminal out of office. It's a hard job because this particular traitor is powerful. But he will try anyway, because he has to. He would, no doubt, rather get him on tax-evasion (like they did Al Capone), but that's not an option right now. The tool he has is Obstruction of Justice. Isn't it true, that people without character & self-contol are not known for their deep respect for Justice?
rb
Name: Rose Darling
@in the gutter, looking at the stars
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 15:37:20
Comments:
Oleander aka Matriarch in Residence: :
Thanks, when I get the time and look over the lyrics, I will visit your web page. Haven't had much time to be online this past week, and am just trying to stay caught up in this GB.Old Bull:
Just `cause we all own computers doesn't make us materialistic, necessarily. But you certainly threw a penny into the well of deep thoughts...Pat:
Interesting dissection of Black Cow.countzirO:
You already know that EYE like seeing the Taoist thought for the day. Why take a vote? Nothing personally insulting intended, Clas, `cause you're okay by me, but nobody took a vote here (that I know of) about discussing Pompe's anatomy's afflictions daily for a while. And I got a little over that myself. Although I do like doggies, don't get me wrong, and like to see them doing well. Also, I don't believe I've seen any subject either rejected or censored here yet. (However, one CAN be subject to the occasional flamethrowing in response to unpopular free expression.) Certainly, leaning towards being purer in spirit in motive will subject you to verbal darts and arrows at times. Anyway, can any intelligent human being in this GB honestly object to thoughts that attempt to inspire inner and outer peace? P.S. the only complaint I've seen a few times over (and not from me) is not enough talk about Steely Dan.Regarding Clinton, how can a whole country have any trust in a man who cannot even be trusted by his wife? But mostly only women and especially wives view that as an important and relative issue in judging a president. As mitch said, the country has become immune to scandals, but we're not talking about your average, everyday scumbag politician. We're talking about the President, the leader and should-be ambassador of the (alleged) greatest nation on earth. It's all moot anyway since it will never be proven accurately what Clinton has or hasn't done. It's probably just a political set-up anyway. Pardon me, YGK (no sarcasm) if you find the discussion of a leader's ethics pointless, but this is my two cents on the subject. But I don't want to hear anyone complain about how politics and the world sucks without owning up to that ethics IS at the core of it, baby !
P.S. PLEASE SEND ALL FLAME MAIL TO THE ADDRESS BELOW:
Name: Kenneth Starr
Getting Ready To Set The Hounds Loose
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 14:46:25
Comments:
YGK: Clinton bribed Monica with a $11,000 payment on her credit card and a $90,000/year job at Revlon in New York for her false affidavit. He also perjured himself in the Paula Jones deposition about his payment to Monica's credit card which was illegally reimbursed with taxpayer funds. Here's his testimony under oath on the bribes.
JUDGE WRIGHT: Would you like to finish these questions now
before we break?MR. FISHER: I have just a couple more on this particular
subject.JUDGE WRIGHT: All right, all right, let's proceed then.
Q. Mr. President, have you ever paid any money to Monica Lewinsky?
A. No, sir.
Q. Have you ever caused money to be paid to her?
A. Absolutely not.
Q. Have you ever paid off any debt that she owed to some other person?
A. No, sir.
Q. Have you ever caused a debt that she owed to some
other person to be repaid?A. No, sir.
MR. FISHER: That's all I have on that subject.
JUDGE WRIGHT: All right, how much time – I'm suggesting we have
lunch for, within the next half-hour and then come back here in half an hour.MR. BENNETT:Would you like to break now –
THE WITNESS: Mr. Fisher, is there something , let me just – you asked that with such conviction and I answered with such conviction, is there something you want to ask me about this? I don't, I don't even know what you're talking about, I don't think.
MR. FISHER: Sir, I think this will come to light shortly, and you'll understand.
Name: Chief of Staff
The White House
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 14:31:09
Comments:
Dear Mr. YGK. Thanks for your application in regards to staff posistions. In the not to distant future we will be hiring . As the late summer heat comes on staffers will be bailing out. Mike McCurry (White House spokesman) recently quit ,so he could spend more time with his family. Since you have had so many flings, we feel that you would fit in nicely in D.C. We`ll let Hilary hold onto your RESUME and hope she doesn`t lose it or shred it.
Name: mitch
never been to Wisconsin
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 14:13:29
Comments:
Y.G.K. I agree there are a lot of better ways to spend 40 mill. Did you have anything against the Independent Counsel that investigated Reagan and Bush Administrations? This is all about retaliation. You can bet your last Piastro if the Republicans get the White house back and if the Democrats won back Congress, you`d see another Partisan investigation. Senator McCarthy from Wisconsin used Red-baiting in the 5o`s to ruin many innocent peoples lives. What do you see here, that compares to him?
Name: Dr. Wu
@Office Hours
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 13:58:11
Comments:
Incorrect, I am simply a Thai herbologist
Name: YGK
..
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 13:56:41
Comments:
OOPS - that was our little secret, sweetheart, and you're still the best #15 I ever had...
Name: Sally
sne@kin through the Alley with Sally
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 13:52:39
Comments:
Y.G.K. You told me i was the 15th, you told me i was the best.You lied and now i`m going to sue you,you bastard!
Name: horse with no name
mystery of DR. WU
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 13:41:19
Comments:
Is really no mystery at all. Dr. Wu is heroin ,didn`t you read Reelin in the years by Bryan Sweet?
Name: YGK
..
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 13:37:45
Comments:
"Perjury and obstruction of justice is the Issue", yes, but an Issue about a Blow Job! Is is an Issue about the non-use of Tissue?
Hypothetically speaking, if I told you that I slept with 13 women in my life, but it actually was 14, do you wanna sue? take me to court? is it really your business? oh, and #12 didn't give me a blow job, it was a hand job, in an alley, near a public road. Do you really care? Christ, you and McCarthy-Starr, get a life.
Please, whatever kind of swine he is, let's spend our money on something important!
How many people could be helped by $40,000,000? How many more jobs created?
Sometimes, American attitudes about sexuality are still in the 1600's - sheesh!
I apologize, folks, but, to keep this vaguely site-related, couldn't we all wonder if Monica learned from a Steely Dan II?
Name: mitch
sc@ndal City
l
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 13:25:27
Comments:
Fezo and Y.G.T. I see that the G.B. has gone political. Ken Starr is not the issue, getting a blowjob is not the issue. Perjury and obstruction of justice is the Issue. The country could care less.(Clinton`s approval rate is 65%) The public isn`t fazed by scandals .Kennedy`s assasination, Vietnam, Watergate and Nixon`s resignation made the public cynical. They are no longer shocked at bad behavior. Wall street is humming like Lewinsky, but when the economy slows and the truth is out on zippergate and all the other fundraising ,travelgate,filegate scandals Clinton will be finishing his term. The public will then turn against his cheerleading V.P. Al Gore......Its hard to stay on top, just a year after the victory over Iraq, Bush was defeated.
Name: WHOA!!!
@SAY WHAT?
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 13:18:11
Comments:
Well,BEEM me up,ST.PATTY!!!
Name: PATS JAZZ
PATSJAZZ@aol.com
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 12:37:20
Comments:
I erred in typing my e-mail address. It is PATSJAZZ@aol.comThere is only one "T" in PATS. Sorry.
Name: PATS JAZZ
PATTSJAZZ@aol.com
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 12:33:23
Comments:
I can see exactly why people see "Black Cow" as a song about a troubled man/woman relationship. But I've always thought the song meant something deeper. They may seem absurd, but who cares?, so here goes:
In the 1950's and 60's, Rudy Van Gelder was a popular recording engineer who had his own studio in New Jersey. He was famous for recording some of the most well known jazz musicians of the time. One of the labels he worked with was Prestige, which was known for hiring musicians and paying them only what they needed to keep their habits going. So the line "I saw you at Rudy's, you were very high", could be a jazz fan or perhaps a young musician seeing an idol completely wasted at a recording session. "They saw your face," could be the musician removing his dark glasses and revealing his conditon to everyone. "On the counter, by your keys, was a book of numbers" could be either a phonebook of dealers numbers, or a songbook book, either one, resting atop a piano ("by your keys). "Remedies" may mean his drugs are in plain sight. He's suggesting either of these may appease him today, but it won't last long."I can't cry anymore, how you run around. Break away." The speaker had always held this musician in high esteem and now that he knows him personally, he thinks it's "a cryin disgrace" and he needs to break away from his idol worship. "Down to Green Street" (Green Dolphin Street, alluding to, perhaps, a ficticious jazz strip), "looking so outrageous". Is this Thelonious Monk? "Like a gangster on the run, you will stagger home, to your precious one". Why would a gangster stagger home? Because he was "shot-up"? Perhaps the musician is stoned and, going home to his "precious one" is a reference to his selfishness and because of his chioces, he goes home alone . I think "I am the one" is a seperate thought from "To your precious one". The narrator must think about what happened and talk it out with himself in order to make everyting alright. "Drink your big black cow", I believe is another slam at the musician. Since a black cow is usually thought of as a drink enjoyed by children and teenagers, this could be one way of saying, "If you're going to act like a child, just do it, and get out of here." Since Fagen is from NJ, maybe this is even semi-autobiographical.
Name: YGK
New - who f***in cares - York
Location: New York, Not D.C.
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 11:58:57
Comments:
Ken Starr wouldn't know good music if it fondled him!
Christ, really now, like or hate Clinton, are we really going to impeach a president who got a blow job? I mean, at first I thought - what an idiot Clinton is - and maybe he is really more idiotic than anything we've thought of before, but c'mon now, I thought McCarthy was dead.
Name: WRONG GUESTBOOK
!!
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 11:03:59
Comments:
Ok count0: Your right, here's my real identity
Name: fezo
leaving.on.a.jet.plane
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 10:52:31
Comments:
Count0: keep the philosophical musings coming, adds some variety to the GB, which, I think anyway, is one of its best features
Except for statements in support of Ken Starr which in my left wing opinion should be left to the Aryan Nation page. I think Starr is just jealous of Clinton cause the latter has gotten more hummers in a year than Starr has even received in his petrified imagination. The special prosecutor needs to get a life. Maybe all the GBers could pitch in and send him a SD compilation tape. "Time Out of Mind" might spark his prosecutorial zeal for a bit.
I'm off to the mother country for awhile. Later
fezo
Name: countzir0
Can't please everyone
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 10:08:39
Comments:
Tao Now: I appreciate your honesty, but question the fact that you hide your identity. Don't worry, my feelings won't be hurt, I'm above that as a true Taoist. And wouldn't you agree that random bits of wisdom beats the hell out of listening to a daily virtual documentary of Pompe's VD? Speaking of Pompe, where the hell is Clas? and Geena?
Bull Lee: I feel that I escaped western materialism a long time ago. The reason I chose The Tao is because all other religions tend to condemn those outside their religion to eternal Hell. If I chose Christianity, I'd be saying Muslims, Buddhists, Vodun, etc. you're going to hell. That's not a judgement call I feel I have a right to make.
Taoist Thoughts for the day:
Aww Fuck, I've got a hangover, who cares....?--Lao Tsu--6th century B.C.
Name: tao now
brown cow
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 09:13:09
Comments:
count0: i'm getting bored. thanks for asking.
Name: Old Bull Lee
among the dead
Location: East St. Louis, MO
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 09:09:59
Comments:
count z:
your tao ramblings are fine; but aren't you just trying to escape western materialism; which if it didn't exist we wouldn't be communicating right now? (deep thoughts)Ole': Randy C is among us as well; died last year in Hawaii...
re: Dr. Wu: a Chinese Dr. Benway perhaps greatly influenced by 'The Ticket That Exploded' (i.e. the sequel to Naked Lunch)
Skunk Baxter was the more Burroughsian of Steely Dan I, born in Mexico City to a Washington DC executive, room mate with Klaus Fluoride ( later of Dead Kennedys)....pissed on the floor....
Name: countzir0
Good Morning GB!!!
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 07:51:10
Comments:
I was doing some research into the Tao (a new book: The Tao of Inner Peace)last nite, and found a reference to my favorite Dan song--Dr. Wu. In the Chinese language, the word Wu means "eternal non-being." This tended to confuse me even more about the lyrics though... Damn those guys...
Rose D.: I don't sit still very often, am very physically active, but often at night, all alone, I try to reach stillness of mind and find that plateau I was speaking of in that last quotation.
GB signers: Let me know if you're getting bored with my spoutings from the Tao. It's just one of the things I've been researching lately...tends to spill out into this room I walk into every day.
Name: rudy
@ www.pageboy.net/stereolab/
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 06:17:18
Comments:
OLEANDER: see, I was wondering when someone was gonna say that. It will happen, promise. These [virtualbums] are exercises directly related to Countzir0's Tao teachings: I just exercise to music, thassall......
i've just finished Stereolab's 1993 album "Transient Random-Noise Bursts with Announcements".....perhaps i do CBAT next.rudy.
PS: if you can git me that ZIP before lunchtime I can get our art underway.........
Name: Say a
prayer for
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 03:37:26
Comments:
Owen Meany.
Name: Owen Charm
takesasecondtosaygoodbye
Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 at 02:14:03
Comments:
Midnight Cruiser & Oleander: That's what I get for listening to Bono Vox while channeling. And don't U & V kinda go together now that you think about it? I mean, they are tandem in their arrangement--particularly apparent when reciting the alphabet backwards.
And as far as the "Blackbird" goes, 90 minutes from New York to Los Angeles was a piece of cake. Is 90 minutes from New York to Paris a dare? I just hope we can accomplish it without disturbing any dolphin-free nets.
Von Brauning,Owen
Name: Alice Middleton
betty@gmi.net
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 20:09:17
Comments:
Thank you for the site. It is nice to know that sandwiched inbetween the Dawson Creekers and the dead head's there is a bit of sanity left. Real music still exists. Thank you again!!
Name: oleander
in hot Perseid
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 19:19:57
Comments:
midnite--The hairs on my neck are prickling.... "Gravity's Rainbow" comes up again: one of the main characters in the book is the V2 rocket.... Too complicated to go into here, but an incredible, book-long metaphor.... Would love to watch the stars with you.
Edd--what about them? And speaking of the ODP, this is the first time I noticed the 11TOW & Kama sections---AMG: new to me, and very cool.... I never knew that Mr. Becker shared a birthday with Randy California, and that the latter & I were the same age....
rudy: moogy? So hurry up & do the same thing for the Dan! How the hell do you do some of that weird stuff--the things appearing in the skull... the new phrases with each return to the front page.... Of course I read it as Virtual Bums, which I thought was a nice nod to your GB friends.
CountZ: working on your eponymous book. Just got a new copy to replace the worn-out one.
DrMu--Those robber barons really knew how to live. Maybe the Dan could be persuaded to do an intimate evening outdoors at the Estate....
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 17:06:20
Comments:
Dorothy: You're right! I have been in the cornfield too long. However, I stand by my statement. I have seen Jaco and Stanley and many other outstanding bassists in my 42 years of existence on this speck of dust we call earth. Steve Bailey knew Jaco personally and tells tales of spending time with him discussing technique. Jaco's harmonics technique primarily utilized dampening with the thumb and plucking with the forefinger. Steve's technique dampens with the forefinger and plucking with the ringfinger thereby allowing one to play harmonic chords in addition to single notes. Look, I know I can't convince you so I'm going to stop right here and recommend that you read Steve's regular column in Bass Player magazine... if you have an open mind on the subject.
YGK: of course it was intentional.
Midnight Cruiser: You're welcome.
Babs: I checked www.pollstar.com and they didn't list Oyster whatever as a listed stop on his current tour. But, it's my guess that it is indeed the same John Scofield that was in Chicago at the JVC Jazz Festival and also at the KC Jazz & Blues Festival. He is on the east coast this weekend. John is a guitarist that played with Miles Davis. He's been around the block a few times. He's got a four piece combo with keys, bass & drums with no vocals. They play all over the modern jazz spectrum ranging from slow, melodic tunes to funky fusion.
Later - mdkelly
Name: Rose Darling
@gettingGBfever, myself
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 16:11:29
Comments:
Bull Lee:
Your advice to countzirO had me almost falling off my chair with laughter. Boy, are you a sicko or what...
P.S. if you can't spell the word "whore" correctly does that mean you've never been with one? (Not that I really care to know.)Midnite:
No, have not heard of Athenaeum... a group or the cd title?
And what do you mean when you say, raw? Hard for a Dan fan like me, so fond of polished, concise music to go back to some of what is called "raw" ya know? Are we talking garage band raw or what?Lucky Pedestrian:
Thanks for the suggestion.countzirO@Tao:
if only I could sit still long enough to experience that kind of reality... do you?Your Gold: re: Deacon Blues
Probably it was an improvisation left in on purpose... don't you know everything in every song was done on purpose?
Name: DrMu
diebehindthewheel
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 15:00:58
Comments:
YGK: Interesting question...I'm certainly no professional singer, but could it be a "call and repeat" technique a la gospel and R&B singers? The McDoobies used this a bit. BTW, the tribute band/classical connection you made was excellent... i.e., other philharmonic orchestras are allowed to play a Beethoven symphony long after his death and even after van Karajan's (sp?) outstanding recordings.
The one exception on Kama to the percussive/R&B bent I mean to mention is "By the Dunes"...nice chord progressions and fluid and lyrical guitar lines...this one sounds the most like The Nightfly...I love the "foghorn" at 1:57 out and the waves crashing as the song slowly fades away. Fagen really learned how to turn phrases ala Randy Newman late during the Dan era and in the solo stuff. I just love when he laments "Pretty women with their lovers by their side,
It's like and awful dream..." This is a fella with his heart ripped out despondant and frustrated
Name: MC again
sameasiteverwas
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 13:22:07
Comments:
Peg....looks like Chapel Hill on 8/19 was my best shot but I've got to work 7am-7pm that day. Thanks again for the info. Maybe I can catch them another time.
Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com
Location: Danville, VA
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 13:07:35
Comments:
Peg....thanks for the info on Keneally and Co. I'm on the way to check out the website now.
Ruby Baby....I know that the SR-71 is obsolete compared to what's out there, I just want to see some of the black projects. I envy you getting sneak peeks even if you can't see the details. As an amatuer astronomer for about a decade now I've seen some pretty cool stuff on a few of the many nights I've been out all night long on observing runs but nothing really unexplained. In case you're interested, the nights of August 11th and 12th will be the peak of one of the best meteor showers of the year, the Perseids. The moon will rise later in the night when it's normally the best time to view a shower but if you're up about 11pm or later just walk outside and look up toward the northeast, high in the sky, and enjoy one of nature's very best free shows! Here's hoping for clear skies those nights.
Doc....an inadvertant thanks to you my friend. I really hadn't been listening to much jazz the past couple of years but after reading your recent posts it kind of got the juices flowing again and in a late night cruise last night I found myself bored listening to all the same rock/pop/alternative stuff and decided to tune in the local NPR station. They happened to be doing a two hour jazz show that was awesome! I heard some of the tastiest guitar lines I've heard in quite a while. It was like getting a cold, refreshing drink of ice water after drinking carbonated fizz for so long. Very clean and very cool. Needless to say, the car radio has a new preset on it now. Thanks for the inspiration.
Name: Babs
@ skool
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 12:38:09
Comments:
To: Doc Kelly
Your JohnScofield that was in Chicago 7/25 could he be the same one doing a free concert, in Oyster Bay L.I. this weekend?
If so, (please be nice and remember at least I was brave enough to ask) what kind of music is he about...sounds like you guys really like him and I'd like to check him out.
Thanks
Name: ygk
,,
Location: yeah, yeah,
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 12:35:26
Comments:
misic=music
Name: YourGoldKeith
mrdbh@yahoo.com
Location: New York, NY
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 12:34:25
Comments:
A questions to all you singers/opinionators of the Dan:
Peg, LoveBob, etc."In the chorus of Deacon Blues, when the background singers sing, 'I, play just what I feel', it goes, "I", than Fagen sings "I" then together "play just what I feel". Do you think this was a mistake that they kept? Or was it written like that? I've been in plenty of misic situations where someone, either the background or the lead, misses the syncopation, and then later cathes up to the rest of the band. It sounds like that happened there, and I've always wondered about it. Since I'm listening to DB now, I would love to hear peoples opinions...."
ygk
Name: Peg
totzke@usa.net
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 11:21:54
Comments:
MidniteCruiser: Mike Keneally & Beer For Dolphins is playing at these places over the next few nights, and as far as I know, Bob Tedde will be with them. 7-30, Thur--Springfield VA: Jaxx; 7-31, Fri--Huntington WV: Stoned Monkey; 8-1, Sat--Cincinnati OH: Sudsy Malone's; 8-2, Sun--Muncie IN: Doc's
oleander: I'm not sure exactly when Bob is dropping off the tour (due to Rockola obligations), but when I find out, I'll post it. I still think you ought to go, even if Bob's not there!
For a complete list of tour dates, see http://www.moosenet.com/keneally.html
Name: Dorothy
we'renotinkansasanymore
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 11:19:32
Comments:
Doc-- Put Jaco to shame? I think you've been in the cornfield to long.
Name: Edd
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 10:37:19
Comments:
What's up with the kokopelli?
Name: SD WebDrone
sdweb@steelydan.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 10:33:42
Comments:
The SD site is back up (unchanged). Sorry for the brownout.
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 10:24:43
Comments:
Saw Victor Wooten last night. He and Steve Bailey are not on tour as a gigging band. They are doing clinics at music stores that are sponsored by Ampeg. They do not have a live drummer however they did have a drummer recorded (also a drum machine) so they can play it back for performing.
They only played in a local club last night due to the lack of room at the music store that brought them into town. They played more music last night because they were in a club and had a club crowd rather than a room full of bassists. The crowd was composed predominantly of musicians and/or college students and was on the edge of their seats asking personal and technical questions. If anybody has a chance to see these guys you must do so. Victor is awesome in his right hand thumping technique and Steve would put Jaco to shame, if he were alive, with his ability to play unnatural harmonics!!! Two bassist with strikingly different techniques on tour together. Any musician will learn something from these guys!
Name: countzir0
countzir0@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 10:16:39
Comments:
Rudy: I'm an old Stereolab fan from way back, good to see another of us here in the GB. It's been about five years since I listened to them--that was back in my Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, Bauhaus, Joy Division(new-wave, Goth, just discovering the beauty of Danism) days.
Oleander: I was unaware of your site, and let me tell you, it's a sight to see. I loved your references to Gibson in there(why didn't you list Countzero though) and I started thinking about Idoru and the Lo/Rez fan club stuff in there. This GB, if technology ever grew advanced enough, could turn into something similar to the fanclub that Chia and whatshername with the flaming head were in. I was surprised to see some of my own words on the site, and never realized I would even be there. With Gib, the Beats, Dan, etc. you and I have alot in common, it's good to meet someone with such refined taste for art, music, and literature, even if it's in this plastic cyberworld.
Name: RubyBaby
sky w@tching on a dare
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 10:01:13
Comments:
Midnite Cruiser: I live at the edge, between populated areas and vast fields of agriculture. If I'm at the right place at the right time, you wouldn't believe what I get to see being tested over the fields of green...even at night. They've moved WAY beyond the SR-71s. And that's only what they let us see.
I have an acquaintance who works out of VA and travels to several AF and Naval Bases. The technology is so advanced that this person put a major hold on their personal life in order to stay in the loop, and I believe, in order to protect it from our enemies within.
God bless Ken Starr.
Name: rudy
waiting for the SD site to open
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 09:50:54
Comments:
while we're standing out here waiting for the SD site to reopen, I thought I'd suggest another band to take a listen to that is in NO WAY related to cool-ass jazz-inspired rock built off of 12-bar blues...and that would be Stereolab. To pigeonhole: Lounge-techno-moogy-Astrud-Gilberto-like-lyrics. It makes me brainy parts twitch, y'know. Like SD does....
you can catch some quick sound snippets at:
http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~rjh/stereolab/sounds.html
at the risk of being accosted by indignant DanFans as to why I haven't done this for any SD albums (yet), I've been inspired enough to create this page for the band:
www.pageboy.net/stereolab/
sorry about the shameless plug for non-SD material, just thought I'd share one part of my life with another.
rudy
PS: The first four albums are complete, it's a work in progress. And yes, I AM probably gonna do something like this for Steely Dan. As soon as Santa gives me all that time I asked for...
Name: DrMu
atyourdoor
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 09:15:33
Comments:
Ole: There's nothing like the climb up the Blue Ridge near Black Mountain (especially in a 4 cylinder). I'll let you known if I'm ever in that area. Ironically, the only time we visited the Biltmore Estate was when I was very young (about 6-7?) while on a visit from Chicago, before we moved to North Carolina (18 mo later) to stay...haven't seen it in 30 years! BTW love your site! It'll take some time to walk though that garden...just started with Pretzel Logic and Katy Lied first...I do have some interesting things to tell you in relation. e-me: jml2621@acs.tamu.edu
Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com
Location: Danville, VA
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 08:51:01
Comments:
Owen Charmer....*FYI* - a U-2 is a spy plane that's still in service by the US. A V-2 was the rocket type used by Germany late in WWII and later taken by us and used as a prototype for our own rocket program.
Hard to believe they decomission the beautiful SR-71 and still use those rickety ass U-2's similar to the one Gary Powers was shot down in by Russia during the Kennedy administration.
Name: countzir0
to William Seward Burroughs
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 08:42:33
Comments:
been there, done that...
Name: Luckless Pedestrian
flytown
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 08:01:33
Comments:
Rose:
It ain't rock'n'roll, but I strongly recommend checking out Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. Their songs are all about girls, cars, fun, dancin' and drinkin'. And they have a first-class horn line (which, as every Danfan knows, is a prerequisite for becoming a timeless classic).--LP
Name: Lucia
@Lammermoor
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 06:17:50
Comments:
Oleander: We should consider ourselves blessed, you more than I, how many times have I kicked myself wishing I had known more back then. An enchanting evening for certain, Oh how they danced.
Name: countzir0
With a human heart beating in an ion grid
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 05:36:05
Comments:
Oleander: That was Neal Cassady who died on train-tracks in Mexico. He started out walking, deciding to count the train tracks one by one, they found him the next morning: possible OD on benzedrine. Guess he decided to go "Further"... Yeah, you're right about the fever... I've been w/o my medicine lately, a "chill pill" is exactly what I need. BTW, I must admit I envy you and Lucia--having a chance to keep company with Ginsberg, Kerouac, Gary Snyder, any of them would undoubtedly be an enchanting evening.
W. Seward: When I called you ex-gov., I was making a bit of a play on words if you didn't catch it...
Taoist thoughts for the day:
The human mind often loses reality through movement. If you sit in a state of clear serenity without a single thought born, then as clouds arise, you calmly go off into the distance with them; as rain drops patter, you coolly share in their purity. As the birds call, you joyfully sense communication; as flowers fall, you have a profound understanding of yourself. Where is not the realm of reality, what is not the working of reality?
Name: Owen Charm
suddenlyrightnow
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 at 01:25:27
Comments:
IGY: An off-shore oil-rig converted into a launching pad. A modified U2 rocket with an experiment in place of a warhead. The countdown begins and the blue sky opens. The platform shakes and dares us to look up. Why would we look up? The earth taps an unfamiliar routine beneath our feet. We struggle for balance. Only for a moment. The blue sky opens and closes. The rocket has not moved.
Donald is 14 years old and stuffs a well-worn Weird Science & Fantasy comic book under his mattress for the last time. His big toe tingles and barely fits in his shoe. The Brooklyn bridge dances on its foundations for one breath and steadies. Every pedestrian misses a step and inhales simultaneously. The wind shifts. The earth has dropped away. Like an elevator suddenly unstuck. The sensation is undeniable. The evidence sketchy and difficult to substantiate. The rocket has not moved.
Name: gluedtoapost
could be jupiter by now
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 19:49:48
Comments:
Great, I'm abducted by aliens I'm screaming for help, and the server is down!Nice knowing you.
Name: gluedtoapost
could be jupiter by now
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 19:49:34
Comments:
Great, I'm abducted by aliens I'm screaming for help, and the server is down!Nice knowing you.
Name: SD WebDrone
sdweb@steelydan.com
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 19:13:38
Comments:
The Official SD Site is temporarily down, apparently due to transient technical problems with our host server. Fixes are underway, will post updates here if/as needed
Name: oleander
feverish anticipation
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 19:05:14
Comments:
The ODP is still down.... maybe something BIG is brewing....
Name: oleander
disco necked
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 19:00:54
Comments:
Count--uh, in my medical opinion you're coming down with a bad case of GB fever. I suggest you lay off the bug powder, take a chill pill, and disconnect for twelve hours or so. BTW, Ferlinghetti is alive, but not well. Now who died on train tracks in Mexico? This is a piece of info I MUST have.
Lucia--I've told this story before, so others who've heard it can scroll: Allen Ginsberg read here a couple years ago, and after the performance I sat next to him at dinner and had a delightful conversation about diabetes, macrobiotics, etc., in spite of wanting to melt into a sticky little puddle.... He could be a terror, from what I heard, but he made one of the great evenings of my life.
Peg--I'm bummed you won't be there! And if the Bobster isn't either, fageddaboudit!
Doc K--Thanx for the info. Very cool.
Rose--Shameless self-promotion: When you're done checking out the lyrics, please visit my page--http://home.earthlink.net/~oleander1/Index.htm--for lyric comments and write something for it.
Name: FingerPoppinDaddy
@IT'S A TEN!!!
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 18:10:32
Comments:
YOWIE!-It's ME at the wheel of the Shark-de-Ville!!!!!
For what it's worth, I think Kamakiriad is lightyears
ahead of its time. Its design is flawless, as is its
execution. Hats off to the designers, the engineers,
the masters, and all those fabulous MUSICIANS!!!
Funny how this kamakiri sits along side of thousands
of other cd's in music stores across the land, it sits
there waiting, kind of blending in, ready to feast on
its unsuspecting victims, hummmmm...
Name: Nickel
@just for your trouble,thanks.
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 16:31:11
Comments:
"You make me want to be a better fan".
Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com
Location: Danville, VA
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 15:53:38
Comments:
Rose....have you listened to Athenaeum? Just two good sounding guitars, bass, drums and vocals. It's not rocket science but it's kinda raw and catchy as hell. There is plenty of good music around, you may just have to seek it out.
Peg....singing backup with the Damned? I'm impressed! I didn't know you were a singer. BTW, I live about an hour from Chapel Hill and I suspect Rudy lives a few minutes from there. Was it the Keneally tour that was passing thru? Any info appreciated.
Rudy....so you're from the home of Adam & Eve then???
Name: Rose Darling
@ Green Flower Street
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 15:28:42
Comments:
Well, after several choice pieces of advice from my loving family in this GB, I hope you are all happy to hear that I dusted off my Kamakiriad cd which has not been played in years and gave a partial listen today. Forgot how much I do like the funkiness of Trans-Island Skyway and Tomorrow's Girls. And the songs on that cd have such a crisp, crystalline sound...
countzirO:
Taoist thought: yeah, it hit home in a big way...Geena:
incisive remark about flamethrowers...
Perhaps the best policy of all is to...ignoreMan, I'm glad you all are finding some late nineties artists to get into, but I haven't bought any new artist cd's in the last two years. I think modern pop is losing its appeal for me... and I am so sick and tired of the whiny, introspective, puky-folky crap like Jewel and Sarah MacLachlan etc. Where is the funky kick ass rock I used to know? I know you're gonna find this sick, coming from a modern humanist and feminist, but whatever happened to songs about girls, cars and fun?
davedownunder:
well said about the new cd everyone is waiting for...fezo:
interesting evaluation... I'm gonna look over the lyrics again myself and report what I think about lyrics sans music...
Name: Old Bull Lee
@Naked Lunch archives
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 14:45:22
Comments:
count: cheer up .....get pissed off..calm down....drink some coffee...embrace the absurdity...take a dump....
take a walk to the seediest part of town.....and roll around in some newspapers....make out with a toothless hore.....
scratch yourself....
Name: countzir0
this site's screwed
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 13:50:16
Comments:
Just to let ya'll know, much of the site is timing out on the server, under construction or somesuch. steelydan.com is timing out, archives are timing out, so it's not just one part of it...
that's it for now, what a boring day on the GB, no fights, no dissing, no dog dicks. what will we do. Ex-governors of NY, HST, Old Bull, Pompe, Clas, Geena, Oleander, everybody--S.O.S!!! I'm bored and have grown tired of reading Taoist Haikus, somebody post something interesting...
Name: also wondering
captain@hacker
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 12:41:41
Comments:
down for me too - maybe it is for the announcement of the new album and a list of fall tour dates or maybe it's just the server is down.
Name: countzir0
your'e shittin me, ex-governor Seward
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 12:39:05
Comments:
When did Ginsberg die?? As far as I knew he was still hitting up young boys for a piece of ass. A buddy of mine from Boston moved out to San. Fran. and claims to have ended up marrying Ferlinghetti's daughter. He tells me that Ginsberg hit on him until he found out that he was the fiancee of Ferlinghetti's daughter. He also claimed to have stayed in the cabin that whathisface loaned out to Kerouac. You know the one in Big Sur?
Anyway, how many governors and ex-governors of NY are gonna sign this GB? Is spouting about guns another H.S.Thompson reference?
I've experienced true Fear and Loathing, it was in a speed-trap in a country town about 30 mi. outside of Dallas. I had 1 oz. of ganj. on me, that's when I realized what Dr. Gonzo was speaking about when he wrote his famous-now-made-into-a-movie-book.
Name: rudy
inside the wonderful Adobe applications
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 11:52:15
Comments:
OLEANDER: please check yer e-mail for my post.
Name: Lucia
@Lamermoor
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 11:51:52
Comments:
To the D. Bums:
I was fortunate enough to see Ginsberg at a reading in his mom's hometown, at the local library no less, sadly I was naive to what he was all about, just trying to get in from the rain actually. He read from Howl, what a shock when he started discussing drugs, anal sex and the like. Thanks to that evening I was introduced to Kerouac et al. Ah, Mr. Ginsberg how I was so sad when you passed on a few yrs back. Even sadder, that library could've been packed.
Name: wondering
what's up?
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 11:42:18
Comments:
does anyone know why www.steelydan.com is not responding? or is it just my computer?
Name: William Seward
@interzone in the morning
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 11:19:59
Comments:
hey Ray: Ginsberg is among the dead too!
and yes I agree 'Can't Buy A Thrill' does have a more beat influence...but then again it was composed when pot was $30 an ounce...and within living memory of Kerouac's death....
gotta go shoot my guns!!!
Name: Countzir0
From Desolation Peak seeking the Dharma...
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 10:37:48
Comments:
Thank you for replying finally Bull Lee. I'd have to disagree with you on Kama being "On the Road" etc. Sadly enough, I feel that SD have distanced themselves from their Beat roots. I definitely don't see Walter Becker dying on traintracks in Mexico, or Fagen getting bloated and drunk dying in Florida. Kama is so clean feeling, I'd say both guys were completely sober during the production, maybe that's why "Can't Buy a Thrill" sounds better than "Kama" after a dose or two of bug-powder. Tell me, Bull, have you been in contact with that queer Ginsberg lately? He and Ferlinghetti are the only ones left I think. I read your letters back and forth when you spent time down in Mexico and Central America, experimenting with Yage, or as the the indians say asahuago. That sounds like a much more intense experience than any bug-powder I've heard of. I'm ashamed of you for what you did to Joan, but good excuse playing William Tell. Well, back to my bottle of port, good talking to you, write soon...
Ray Smith
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 10:28:03
Comments:
Ole: As I grew up one learned on the 4 string bass. As 5 string and 6 string basses have become more common it has been my observation that bassists buy better quality axes as well as more versatile axes as they become more proficient at playing. There is a school of thought that bassists should stick to the bottom end of the spectrum i.e. stay out of the midrange so that PA systems can better portray the entire array of instruments... there are already guitars and keyboards in most bands that can consume most of that portion of the spectrum. Now that I've said that I should say that a really good bassist can play all over the spectrum and not step on anybody. Most bassists that move to a 5 string bass are adding to the bottom end. Those that move to 6 strings (and beyond... I saw an 8 string bass played in Chicago last Saturday night by Lee Ritenour's bassist Melvin Davis) use those higher strings for improvisational reasons.
The current tour of Victor Wooten and Steve Bailey is basically 2 bassists and a drummer... at least that's my understanding. I'm going to go see their gig locally (Lawrence) tonight. I'll report back on that later. The workshop I attended was in Kansas City at Big Dudes music store after they closed. About 25 of us bassists paid $10 (dirt cheap) to sit within spitting distance for 3+ hours of personal/technical questions and demonstrations with a recorded drum track... Victor and Steve both took turns playing rhythm and lead for a couple of songs then they'd take a break for questions... they did 3 cycles of this. The event was sponsored by Ampeg. Afterwards they autographed their photo for absolutely everybody in the building. I'm sure tonight's gig will be better.
Name: Babs
@skool
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 10:25:41
Comments:
Minah, did you even make it to LBB?
Name: Old Bull Lee
dazed@ the dude ranch
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 10:01:44
Comments:
count:
I'm pecking away at the keyboard that has betrayed me so many times....yes we are all dead...but if life is but an imitation of art ...aren't we all fiction........
Dr. Benway: "this is all a misunderstanding....Steely Dan III is almost ready"
.....the bugpowder is wearing off......
thought of the day: is Kamakiriad sort of like 'On The Road' of the '90's....and is the 'trans-island skyway' the Long Island Expressway??
Name: peg again
totzke@usa.net
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 09:22:27
Comments:
I was just surfing the Keneally web site, and found a photo of the Damned at LBB: http://www.moosenet.com/wnhth1.html
It's the 4th photo down. We were doing Dirty Work - Mark DeCerbo is on lead vocals instead of Bob. Not everyone is pictured here, but this is who's in the shot L-R: Trip Sprague, sax; Mark DeCerbo, lead vox; Gary Taylor, drums; Bryan Beller, bass; Hank Easton, lead guitar; Mike Keneally, keyboards; Bob Tedde, background vox; Peg Totzke, background vox; Larry Grano, percussion.OK, now back to work for reals this time.
Name: Peg
totzke@usa.net
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 08:46:54
Comments:
oleander: I'm not touring with Keneally so I won't make Chapel Hill. I did catch the Knitting Factory gig while in NYC - it was so amazing to stand there and listen to/watch this music being created. I often times found myself just sort of bouncing my head up and down, with my jaw hanging open, completely absorbed by these guys. A quick look around indicated that nearly everyone else in the audience was in the same 'place' as I!
Bob is with them now, then he'll be here (San Diego) for a few Rockola gigs, then back on the road with Keneally for several more dates. I'll find out if he'll be at Chapel Hill. Even if he's not, I would highly recommend checking it out. Tell the guys in the band I sent you. They usually hang out afterwards to chat.
Name: oleander
up on the hill
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 08:21:28
Comments:
Johnboy, Case--look, let's just lay this picture thing to rest. Those were the bad old days, and smutmongers can worm their nasty way in anywhere. Clas is NOT the type. Johnboy, I know you're you, and you were there, but Case, don't be an asshole, own up to who you are. To paraphrase Johnson, anonymous flaming is the last refuge of scoundrels.
Peg--thanx for the info! Will Bob & you be in Chapel Hill? Might actually be able to make that one.
Docta Mu--Listen, no offense to Rudy, but skip the Piedmont. Next time spend your time in the Western paradise of the mountains. Your tour guide awaits.... BTW, the vinyl house to which I referred is Memory Lane in Tempe, 1 800 326 5343. They were very nice, and the service was exemplary. I don't think CDW&W was reissued on cd, but the album has one of the best covers EVER.
stevev--SYNERGY! The operative word is SYNERGY!
Kinklie--don't fucking rub it in, man, neither have I.
Robert--don't worry, there are lots more of us looking back with you.
Doc at the Ranch--Thanx for the info. Why do some people prefer 5 (or 6) over 4? And I'm so jealous!! A day with Victor Wooten!!
Name: minah
oops
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 08:07:51
Comments:
ahhhh, the ol 'Fake Babs' routine...2nd time I've fallen for it this week...
mW
Name: countzir0
Humpday, slow for the mugwumps
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 07:51:09
Comments:
Where is everyone? "Are you with me Doctor? Are you with me Dr.?"
Old Bull Lee: No re:?? Guess you had too much bug powder.. Are you posting from Tangiers, under the Sheltering Sky?? I thought Paul Bowles had died...
Name: Zeke
Destinorbust
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 07:48:56
Comments:
Ole': Snake Woman, cool, I can did it. I'm sorry I don't have the answer to the Dr. Jawn ? I can remember buying "Right Place
Wrong Time" and "Lean On Me" 45's at the same time.
Hey, what was the "B" side to Right Place ?
Also, The Squirrel Nuts are playing HOB, think I'll check it out.Count: The last time I was in Big D a friend of mine brought me
to Deep Ellum (sp?). We went to a very cool joint called
"The Bone". Very cool blues bar. Across the street was the
"Armadillo Roadhouse", which featured awesome sculptures and cool furniture made from chrome bumbers.Late.
Name: DanNut
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 06:01:50
Comments:
Eviva, I thought I told you I was logging off to go sit in air conditioning. But it's interesting that you and Jackie felt this guestbook has such a cult like atomsphere to it that you were afraid to post.
Name: countzir0
Countzir0@Trans-IslandSkyway.com
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 at 05:30:05
Comments:
Clas: Tayhoss is just a phonetic way of emulating how Mexican people(of which there are many resident as this state is situated so close to Mexico) say Texas. I apologize for the confusion.
GB Signers: I was missing my Kamakiriad CD, lost in my collection of probably 1000 CD's(and I bitch about never having any money). But last night, I went thru and opened up every CD case in my collection, which took about 30 min., and about half of the way thru, I found it--Kamakiriad, untouched, unscratched, unlistened to for over a year. It was like resurfacing a treasure, but I now feel like I'll have to grow accustomed to it again, I may take the earlier suggestion and leave it in the Alpine for a week, see how that works.
Got a new book called "The Tao of Inner Peace." stay tuned for new Taoist posts....
Name: TheStranger
taking just my sandals
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 21:16:05
Comments:
oleander,
thanks, but honest, i wasn't seeking sympathy for the death of a cousin who died before i was born. but i had always known about him and because i am his closest living relative i investigated his death, saw the papers on Captain Miller from the pentagon, and then when i saw 'ryan' i received this incredible jolt to see that name again in such a context.i have been attacked so vigorously for my objections to cover bands that i am wary of admitting that in retrospect, even thoughsince i've never seen a Dan cover band that would get me excited, perhaps the people who were there and saw and heard know more than i do. but man, does everyone have to get so fucking nasty? i am retreating tonight into the desert for 40 days where i will fast and stare at desert shit. when i return perhaps i will have more answers or perhaps i'll just get some cheeseburgers.
Name: Doc Kelly
Back home... here at the Dude Ranch
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 19:54:53
Comments:
Having played in cover bands for 20+ years I can relate to those musicians that long to find other musicians that are capable of playing Dan tunes... every new group that I jam with must endure my constant suggestions about Dan tunes that I believe we should add to our playlist...
Ole: the 4 string electric bass has an E for it's lowest note. The 5 string bass generally has as it's additional string a B as it's lowest note (5 half-steps below the E). Because the low B string has such a large diameter and isn't very taut you will rarely see any strings lower... however, 6 string basses are relatively common and have an additional string on the high end as well as the low B...
Last night I had an opportunity to attend a bassist workshop lead by Victor Wooten (Bela Fleck & the Flecktones) and Steve Bailey (too many credits to list)... it was so incredibly awesome that I can't describe it!
The Lee Ritenour/John Scofield show in Chicago last Saturday night was well worth the trip to the big city.
Name: EvivaLaughs
@NYState
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 19:34:00
Comments:
DanNut,
"Jackie" and I were sorry you signed off Steely Dan chat so suddenly! We think you may have taken my joke as an insult--if that's so, I'm SORRY!! Please accept my apology--I think my newness at chat made me forget how you can't see me smiling! Hope to chat sometime in future--EvivaLaughs
Name: robert morgan
rmorgan13@yahoo.com
Location: dayton, tn
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 19:25:33
Comments:
"... as he watches his bridges burn from the point of no return"
Name: Cathy Berberian
@myoldskool
CA
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 19:15:33
Comments:
As one who spent many "piasters" to fly out to NYC for a great show, I think there are some sour grape reactions out there. I agree with Seurat and YGK. Who cares what kind of band they are? I am a musician and realize the complexities of D&W's great work. It is the only music in my life that I do not tire of. Kama is unique and infectious, just like all their diverse sounds over the years.
I have seen the "Damned" many times in San Diego and wanted to be a part of the atmosphere at LBB, which did not disappoint. It could ofcourse not compare with the Roseland shows, which I was lucky enough to enjoy with the late great Maggie McCoy.
Thanks to Pete, Shari and the great band. Rockola was amazing too!!!
Name: Babs
@skool
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 17:44:33
Comments:
Imposter? Listen milkman, they're real and they're gorgeous and definatley worth looking at. Forgive the laymen terms, didn't realize I wasn't dealin' with just an ordinary guy.
Name: Tomorrow's girl
@Stargate
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 17:35:35
Comments:
Hey guys--just read all the postings. Any DanFan poets out there? No offense to Steely Damned, but D. and W. will always be the GENIUSES!! And what's the deal with all the nastiness on these postings? Have mercy on a lady's eyes!! Was hoping to find some real DISCUSSION on the Dan's short fiction/poetry set-to-jazz masterpieces rather than about somebody's "dog's d---" et al. No, don't bother flaming me--think I'll go to any world that I'm welcome to and if they'll have me, then they'll have me!
Name: Capp Gunn
@echos
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 17:31:12
Comments:
Sorta Blue, that stays with ya.
Name: milkman
up@the sky
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 15:54:05
Comments:
My Babs would NEVER say...."worth a look see"!!
Oh-key-doh-key, Babs imposter?
Milkman
Name: I come in PEACE!!!
@AL'S
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 15:52:41
Comments:
They are the BEST,2nd to NONE! BECKER@FAGEN will go down in HISTORY as that.
Name: And every time
@dogeatdog
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 15:23:05
Comments:
She's supposed to just laugh and look away, right?
Name: gong
@gettin'kickedaround
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 15:01:26
Comments:
Hey Bunny, You ever see "AS GOOD AS IT GETS?"
Name: I forgot
Geena,
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 14:33:40
Comments:
I was listening to Katy Lied today. Great album, one of the best but there is one of my fave songs there I can't listen to anymore. Barf.
FezO; bad luck!
Name: fezo
e@ting.crow
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 14:25:22
Comments:
Clas: you are right about the lyrics to IGY. And just to help my interpretative efforts, my turntable has decided to slow to about 25 RPM. And the CD player is in the shop for three weeks. An innocent man in an audiophile hell.
SteveV: I think when B/F write together they might concentrate more on the music than the words. Haven't they said as much? I think one valid complaint about Kama is there is a certain sameness to the sound, which almost leaves an echo in your head. I've never thought that about any SD discs.
Arg, turntable is now stuck on the first five bars of Ruby, Ruby.
Name: Clas
ti amore Geena!
Location: Coca Cola house on the tracks,
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 13:55:54
Comments:
CountzirO; where is Tayhoss?
FezO; good thoughts on Kamakiriad. I think "Teahouse on the track is the best". The first time I listened to that album I was a little disappointed. I put it to rest for a while and now I enjoy it, especially the horns (I think Wadenius pickin' is a little annoying though). By the way, did you listen to that line "...programmed by fellows..."?
Geena; tomorrow then? Exciting uh?
JohnBoy; sorry I was a little hard on you, don't be scared, I won't kill you, just kick your ass off if we ever meet. I feel for you, I have not been too friendly myself during these two years I've been around here.
Well, Pompe is sleeping. It seems like a good idea. Goodnight.
GOD BLESS: Chihuahua Gomez, La Paz, California, Texas, New Orleans, South/North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, New York City, Boston, Marthas Vineyard, JohnBoy and my Sternum.
Name: Her fan
@cool
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 13:48:00
Comments:
And then there was MADISON TIME!!!!!
Name: Kinky
oh wow it's me again
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 13:47:22
Comments:
Stranger - Nice to see you could take time out from convincing Clas that Kenneth Starr's got it out for his dog's dick, to let us know what a waste of time Steely Dan cover bands are. I guess we could infer from your dog dick posts exactly what it is that gets YOU "EXCITED".
Johnboy - I don't think you have to worry about Clas traveling to where you are to carrying out any threats. This is a guy who has said: "if there are people who enjoys seeing a band doing Steely-covers, good for them. But I prefer the real thing, and that's good for me". Yet, this clown didn't even see "the real thing" when they played in his own backyard two years ago. Come to think of it, Clas has NEVER seen "the real thing".
Clas - good for you, real good for you.
Name: Babs
@skool
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 13:28:41
Comments:
Minah, any relation to Minah Minkoff? Im a bit of a spaz when it comes to the final frontier, anyway the Downtown a cheesy little bar in Farmingdale is where they'll be Friday nite. Worth a look see.
Name: countzir0
To:Old Bull Lee
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 12:37:34
Comments:
Surprised you didn't hail from "The Spider's House." Stay off the bug powder and the Yage, mugwump. We Subterraneans here're just building a social forum around SD's work. Post you're real handle and maybe we can talk some shop about the BEATs, I'll even lump old Buk. in there too. And remember, Burroughs is dead, but Becker and Fagen are alive(in Maui????)
Name: Steve V.Dan
here @ the custerdome
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 12:35:58
Comments:
Hey fez:
pass that brownie around....
I agree with your Kama comments...and maybe the same could be
said for Becker's solo set.....but does this mean that when B/F collaborate they diminish their overall talent??!??great song idea for someone to do a cover version of: 'This Moody Bastard'......maybe Robert Goulet???
Name: countzir0
Just dug up some of the old stuff
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 12:27:55
Comments:
Forgot to mention something earlier:
Yesterday I was at my parent's house and dug up "Sun Mountain" and "Old Regime." Boy how the sound has changed since those days. And I wish they'd revamp some of those songs like "Oh Wow It's You." You guys keep talking about "The Second Arrangement..." I can call myself an avid DanFan, but before this GB, had never heard of it, and would like to get my hands, of course, on this piece of work. Any suggestions would be appreciated.Rudy: Sounds like an excellent idea to me. As much as Fagen spoke of technology on his last album, I'd be surprised if they didn't slap a little ROM on the disk. Too bad we don't have Fagen's email address, might be able to capitalize on the idea if we could get ahold of 'm.
Gluedtoapost: If I liked country, I might dig your idea for a country tribute to the Dan. I think your idea holds more humour than genius, and nothing wrong with a creative swing on things. Who knows what combining two totally different kinds of music will reap. I once heard a rendition (in college at UNT) of Ozzy Osbourne's "Iron Man" done to the melody of "Stayin' Alive" and could do nothing but basically lol. The first time I hear Brooks and Dunn doing a country version of "Do It Again" they better put up the chickenwire 'cuz beer bottles and tomatoes will fly...at least from my section. Just because you're from Texas doesn't mean you like country, I'll put it like that...
I just can't imagine people yelling "Yeehaawww" while listening to "Haitian Divorce" call me crazy.
Name: Peg
totzke@usa.net
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 12:23:48
Comments:
The lead guitarist for The Steely Damned is Hank Easton. One of the best things about standing where I do on stage is that I'm right next to his amp so I can hear everything he does... You can get a little info about Hank by going here: http://vmusic.com/artists/
then click on Solo Artists, then click on Hank Easton....no earplugs for me...
Name: fezo
florida.room
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 12:07:06
Comments:
An interesting exercise in lyric analysis is to go to one of the web pages that have all the lyrics to the SD and related projects and just start scrolling. Deprived of their musical backdrop, a lot of the songs seem disjointed, non-sensical. With a few exceptions--most notably, "Deacon Blues"--the words don't really stand on their on own.
I was really struck, though, when I recently scrolled through the lyrics for Kamakiriad. Even without the benefit of music, the words tell a coherent seamless story, both inter- and intra-song. While this is obviously partly because it's a concept album, i think it goes beyond that. The writing seems more thoughtout, developed, almost poetic.
I think the cook put something in the brownie I had for lunch
Name: Old Bull Lee
@East St. Louis Toodle OO
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 12:07:06
Comments:
This site needs a jolt of absurdity...or better yet how about some discussion about STEELY DAN!!!! What a friggin' concept....
....gotta get back to my syringe...I mean typewriter...I mean interzone agent/bug....(aka Paul Bowles)
Name: minah
ya know
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 12:06:32
Comments:
Babs, Nice use of space.
mW
Name: babs
@skool
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 12:02:07
Comments:
To say that the Damned was incredible is undoubtedly an understatement & of course old news, anyway figured Id pass on info re: another cover band playing this Friday nite on the Island
Stealing Dan. An excellent way to get your fix, if your a B&T and not as fortunate as some of you folk.
Name: babs
@skool
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 11:55:01
Comments:
Name: rudy
somewhere in the Triangle
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 11:27:54
Comments:
countzir0:
yeah, got/saw that (a very tasty concept/design throughout: gotta figger out who's got that account), got the Inevitable, and listening to SOLD OUT as we speak..."Pallin with Al" is currently my fave....
have you heard of a new album out now? Details Mag. gave it an 8 (out of 10).
HERE's a concept for the new SD album: take a tip from Squirrel Nut Zippers and produce a Multimedia CD, so all these techno-heads can enjoy the new Dan album on the computer...I'm almost over the Director 6 learning curve: I'm available to start running scripts.....rudy
Name: DanNut
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 11:24:53
Comments:
I don’t see much sense in dissecting the performance of a cover band. Suffice it to say they sounded like Steely Dan with Bob taking occasional liberties on the lyrics. (A very negligible shortcoming after a few beers.) After being disappointed by the Greatest Hits type song selection of the 96 tour, and having never heard a bar band do anything but Peg and Rikki, it was great hearing Gaucho and Third World Man.
Name: DrMu
for7secondsitwaslikeaX-masday
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 11:18:44
Comments:
Pete and Co: Looking forward to the rebroadcast. The webmast of LBB e-mailed me to let me know that such info would be posted at their site in a few days...of course, I'm sure syou'll let us know here first...was lucky enough to catch just a few seconds of Don'Take Me Alive..was that Hank Houston on the solo? AWESOME! sounded at least as good as Zingg, and a virtual Carlton! You all must have been valiantly trying to connect things while on line...when the broadcast fizzled out, I got an error message that indicated essentially that there were too many folks trying to access the server than it could handle for whatever reason. Thanks for trying, though.
Ole: It's great to have you back. I may be able to get Woody et al. on vinyl. Is it possible to find on CD...I was back for a quick visit with family in the Old North State recently and was SHOCKED at the traffic and growth...in my day only the billboards blocked the scenic beauty from the road, not the smog and high rises...Durham to Raleigh was a figgin' parking lot on I-40! Must be those 700,000 immigrants from up Nawth this decade drivin' like fools back and forth to Hackensack.
RD: Kamakiriad is very percussive and more R&B based than The Nightfly or SD except for Aja. The bass is mixed way up, the vocals are back, like Aja and 70's R&B stuff. Complex rhythms are being set up by drums and other percussion + many of the keyboards. Notice that the keyboards set up their own rhythms, so that they seemed to be used like a rhythm guitar often instead of supplying a basic chord structure or lyrical accent, say as in Katy Lied. That's why their is little resonance/echo in the sound. Instead, the horn charts are supplying those melodic morsels. There's lots of stuff going on; listening with headphones as suggested earlier is a good idea. I also contend that a lot of Kama (production) is designed to have an eerie, dreamilike quality to reflect DF's apprehension and thoughts about the future. The scenes flow in the songs in a disjointed way kinda like a dream - much more limbic system that SD. Lyrically, great storytelling and imagery...in general, I like the lyrics in the solo efforts at least as much as SD, but I may be a minority here. Try listening to Teahouse on the Tracks, Florida Room, and Snowbound first then ease into the rest.
"hangin' with the mayor and all his friends..."
Name: Pete
petefogel@asan.com
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 10:19:39
Comments:
I just got this email, and I'm not sure where it was originally posted, but thought I'd paste it here since I was just asked about a set list (even though he didn't give Le Bar Bat such a glowing review:-))
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Here's a review I sent earlier today about this Steely DAMNED show I saw last night at Le Bar Bat. Wanted to know if anyone on the list was there. Didn't think there were any tapers, but if there were, please get in touch/spread this show. It was amazing.
Have you ever been expecting something decent, and were so blown away by it that you had a perma-smile on your face and you danced like a fool until 3:15am nonstop? Well, I was that guy last night. We went to see the Steely DAMNED, the best (well, the only) Steely Dan cover band in the land. Evidently they play once a month in San Diego, and they've never played New York before. I guess that's why the turnout was mediocre at best (folks weren't in a line around the block). Lots of people THOUGHT about going, but bagged it for whatever reason. Your bad! But for those of us that braved the Le Bar Bat cheese factor and showed up, they put on a fabulous show. The renditions of the songs were nothing less than perfect, the guitars (HANK HOUSTON - SUPER LEGEND!) had the right tones and didn't miss a note, the female backup singers were right in the mix. Long-haired Bob Tedde led the band and sang like a dream. The horn section was smooth and fluid, you'd think they would have played together more than once. Mike Kenneally (of Zappa fame) played a little guitar as well as switching off on the keys with Zegenhagen. Don and Walt would have been proud of this effort, I assure you. Besides, they played almost EVERYTHING. Let's see what I can remember- it started with the classic 1974 "drunk guy" intro to Boshissatva, Don't Take Me Alive, Sign in Stranger, Night By Night, Josie, Aja (dedicated to the girl whose parents named her Aja after the album), Gaucho, Black Friday, Any Major Dude, Boston Rag, Babylon Sisters, Parker's Band, My Old School, Pretzel Logic, Do It Again, Green Earrings, King of the World, FM, Black Cow, Any World That I'm Welcome To, Hey Nineteen, Dirty Work, I Got the News, Third World Man, Haitian Divorce (complete with perfect Frampton-style talk box - note for note from the Royal Scam!), Peg and Deacon Blues (yes, the sax solo would have freaked out Wayne Shorter or Cornelius Bumpus). Sick setlist, right?!? They even took a request from me, and ripped Kings while we raised a glass! And ALL of Aja! They even played unreleased tracks (The Second Arrangement, from the Gaucho sessions). We didn't leave there until 3:15am, and the hard cores all agreed that we would dance all night and go straight to work if they'd play that long.
I was beside myself with joy- this band totally did IT for me! I'd go to San Diego just to see these guys. Listening to Steely Dan gets you into that mood - lay down serious grooves. The place had a great vibe last night, in spite of the tourist trap this place is. This band did not disappoint, no matter what your expectations were.
Highlights for me were Caves of Altamira, Gaucho, Kid Charlemagne (is Hank Houston actually Larry Carlton Junior?), Home At Last, and Haitian Divorce. Did I ever think I would hear a live Gaucho? Haitian Divorce? You've got to be kidding me! The whole night would have been worth it just to hear a few of these songs, since some have never been performed live.
Best Steely Dan cover band ever? Of course. Best cover band ever, any band? Definitely. It was that good. The only bummer was there didn't seem to be any tapers.
The best part about the night was that most of it was on the
Underhill's! There was a Price Waterhouse tab open at the bar that we took full advantage of for a while. I work for them technically for the next week, so I felt like it was legit ;-).If I ever work in a bar, I would definitely try and get the DAMNED to rock the house for a night;-).
Have a great weekend.
Name: johnboy
fear&loathing@theguestbook
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 10:12:42
Comments:
Clas: Let me understand.....You'll post death threats but you're above posting obscene pictures? Uh huh, I buy that. And you want to know who & where I am so you can attempt to carry out your threats? I don't think so Sunshine.....
Name: davedownunder
funwaywest@lake.nostalgia
Location: not hot'lanta,but close,
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 10:03:56
Comments:
Thanks to everyone who made the Damned Show happen. Wish I could have made it. I hear inside it's unlikely they'll be coming this way anytime soon (read FL, GA, NC) but I say, merely a fan, they're more than welcome, and there are plenty of places to play.. especially here in the land of Scarlett O'Hara.Call Alex Cooley or his buddy whose name I forget.
(isthe Damned Thing on bootleg VHS or even audio? any sat feeds? is it happening again?)
And one other thing, A new Steely Dan CD would be great, a tour would be terrific. But it sounds like some are demanding it. Personally I'm pretty glad that Messers. Becker and Fagan seemed satisfied to concentrate on the quality rather than the quantity.. (to coin a cliche') There were plenty of bands that turned out increasingly mediocre work year after year just to satisfy the record company moguls, or to keep up the alimony and re-hab payments.And for those who have problems with "Kamakiriad," Listen again. It's well-crafted, mature, and tells an interesting story on several levels.
Put it on in the car and drive for a week or so. It should begin to sink in.
Oh.. and "gluedtoapost," what a stunning intellectual process.
Name: Pete
petefogel@asan.com
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 09:48:50
Comments:
I don't remember the exact set list, but a few that stick out that haven't been mentioned are: Parkers Band, Night by Night, King of the World, and an excellent rendition of Kings. Maybe Peg or someone else from the band can help you out with the rest.
Will Lee didn't play but told me he thought the band and the whole atmosphere was very cool.
I'm trying to get a hold of my soundman to find out when we can get the CD's from the show. Once I get them, we'll set a time for the rebroadcast.
Name: countzir0
Hate those bogus posters
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 09:45:14
Comments:
To "Hunter S. Thompson"--Hunter S. Thompson would never make a reference to William Burroughs(caught your Old Bull Lee reference to Burroughs, and am impressed with your knowledge of the Beats at least)--for one thing, Burroughs, bless his soul, is dead, and from the three biographies about H. S. Thompson that I've read, Dr. Gonzo didn't necessarily have amicable feelings about Old Bull Lee one way or another. To get to my point, I think the site is fine as is, and maybe you should take some advice from Irvine Welsh and take a heroin enema so you can chill out enough to post your own name. So there...
Name: Peg
totzke@usa.net
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 09:25:13
Comments:
oleander: A few weeks ago, you asked about some dates for the Keneally tour. They are at http://www.moosenet.com/keneally.html
Name: Case
Closed
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 09:20:14
Comments:
Clas- So it was you who posted those GROSS pictures. Damn, get a life you Swedish asshole!
Name: Luckless Pedestrian
on.the.dunes
Location: Va Beach,
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 09:14:47
Comments:
After some hesitating and scraping together a few zlotnys, I went out and bought the Cherry Poppin' Daddies and Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. Definitely prefer the latter to the former. CPD's lyrics are *dark*, and without the redeeming quirkiness of some SD villains & losers. BBVD doesn't tackle anything heavy in their lyrics, but their music is a bit more.... something. But in any event, it's good to have bands out there with a good horn line, which has always been one of my favorite aspects of SD.
RB:
You'll be my seniorita in jeans and pearls. Are you coming to the 'fest?
--LP
Name: Hunter S. Thompson
@ Old Bull Lee Ranch
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 09:06:04
Comments:
This Site needs an enema!!!!!
Name: Countzir0
@Sun Mountain
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 08:26:33
Comments:
Rudy: Yeah, and if you've got the album "HOT", don't know if you knew it or not, but pop it into the cd-rom on your computer and you'll see all kinds of kick-ass Squirrel Nut outtakes, etc. That chic who does lead-vocals, don't know if you'll agree or not, but that Billy Holliday-esque voice and those cute little dimples, whoa boy, she's sorta "HOT" herself. If you haven't seen the cd-rom part of it yet, try it, you'll have a blast. I have to bitch a bit now, I tried to get tickets for them when they came to Dallas, and they sold out it about 15 min. I wanted to see that show in the worst way and heard rave reviews about it. sucks...
Damn Clas, way to get pissed off...Go get 'em, as we say here in Tayhoss.
Name: Clas
Geena's Quattro Staggioni
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 08:23:29
Comments:
Geena - my LoveBird, I wish I could be with you on your job. I could serve you coffee and cigs. I could bring Pompe so we could take a walk down South Boston safe. I love you my golden one.
Name: Shelley
back in the saddle again
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 08:05:31
Comments:
Clas & Geena, pets, what's wrong? I take off for a few weeks, come back, and there's a virtual war going on here between various members! what happened to all the love and good vibes in here?
oh well, bring on the heat wave!
Name: Geena
at work without Clas
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 08:02:24
Comments:
Countzir0: Amen to Tao, 'nuff said
Clas: Flamers are a species identifiable mainly by their short attention span, and will eventually slither away
Name: Clas
atelje.lundkvist@swipnet.se
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 07:49:31
Comments:
JohnnyBoy; I know I should ignore what you wrote about me and those pictures. But some things must be answered. So tell me you fucking asshole, what is your email-address? What is your real name? Those who know me on this site knows that I have a dog, they know he has suffered from forskincatarrh and they also know that I don't know shit about HTML. And they also know that I am not a perverted man. Be GLAD that I don't know who YOU are 'cause if I did I would kill you. Got it coward?
StAl; could you look up this guys emailaddress for me, I know you can, that was the reason you changed the GuestBook? So please, just give me his email-address (is it R.O.C.K in U.S.A.?)
Name: rudy
@ the SQZ stompin grounds
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 07:28:45
Comments:
Countzir0:
forgive me for being COMPLETELY off the SD-track, but SQZ certainly appeals to some twisted element of the SD psyche....they're from around these parts (Carrboro), actually got to see them at a free (!) concert last summer out here. I thought having a free concert for the folks back home was pretty damn cool -- even though I read that the drummer needed to fulfil some community hours for public service..... I agree w/the Cherry Poppin Dad's sentiment, they try too hard.....
pre-season football is in the air, can you feel it...........rudy
Name: RippOff
herewego!
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 07:27:39
Comments:
Ahhhh, another great debate here. Thanks LuvBob for creating
a topic to discuss with merit. Time to let dog dicks lie.
I'm really on the fence when it comes down to cover bands.
Is it a ripoff, or just plain old fun. I can remember not long ago when cover bands actually toured the circuit. Anything from the Beatles, Stones, Pink Floyd, and many others could be seen at a club near you. Can you take a band like this serious? Someone down the page said these guys had jobs in other bands and that it was fun to play Dan tunes. Hell, if I had a chance to play in Sgt. Luvbob's Lonley Dan Fan Band, I would break out the strat in a heartbeat. I think its great that someone has a set of balls brassy enough to get on stage a play the Dan. What Joan Baez did with Bob Dylan's stuff is positive.
What Lord Turd did with the Dan is, well, notUntil Don and Waltdog get out on tour, The Damned is all we have!
Name: Countzir0
10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, zir0--liftoff??
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 07:06:51
Comments:
Stranger: I was surprised to see you reference to Leonard Cohen in this jazz-based GB, he's been a favorite of mine for a few years, excellent poet, I'm impressed with your taste.
L. Pedestrian: I agree with you on the Kamakiriad thing, the first time I heard it, I wasn't too sure what to think. Now, when I listen to the drum(in the end of the song) solo from "On the Dunes" I sometimes almost get a tear in my eye, beautiful stuff--and this goes out to you too, Rose Mah Dahling.
Eddie K: Well, if that's REALLY the way it is, then maybe I'll consider a relocation. It will mean a whole new Antarctica-style wardrobe, though, but getting stoned on the street?? It might be worth it, plus I'd be closer to all this Dan action...
Fezo: Yeah, I've been a fan of Dave Matthews for awhile, am not as impressed with their newer stuff since "Under the Table and Dreaming", but then, my financial status as of late hasn't been such that I can lavishly thrust the few measley piasters I clutch at the local CD World...One band of mention that surprised me, also lumped in with the whole Horde Tour concept is Jamiroquai--very polished, stylized, almost pop-jazz sound, but they delve into reggae and that Australian instrument didgeradoo or however you spell it, also. They've got a pretty good "jam" goin...
Oleander: Glad to see another Squirrel Nut fan here. Swing is back, baby and 'ya gotta love it. Not so much a fan of the Cherry Popping Daddies, tho. Too corny. Saw Dr. John, eh? Good New Orleans bruddah, love that voodoo magick hoodoo-hoodoo mambo wambo stuff. I make my annual pilgrimage to "The Big Easy" every year and prolly be going back in early August, finances willing, travel agent willing.
OK Rose Darlin': here's your Taoist thoughts for the day, hopefully they will calm your mind, and cheer your heart...
--For those who reflect on themselves, everything they encounter is medicine. For those who attack others, every thought is a weapon. One is the way to initiate good, one is a way to deepen all evil. They are as far apart as sky and earth.Let me know if that one hit home...
Name: YGK
mrdbh@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 06:25:11
Comments:
As a former concert pianist of no regional or national fame, I am surprised that there are some short sighted individuals who can't appreciate what Lovebob and Company are trying to do in their tribute to the Dan. After all, people who perform 'the classics' are STILL trying to get Bach played right, as well as Chopin, Debussy, Schumann, Mozart (or was he easy to play?), and of course Beethoven, as well as many others too numerous to mention here.
The music of Steely Dan is the modern form of the classics, in that, in its era, for its time, it was (and is) both popular and respected, and not easily duplicated, and it provides joy, or entertainment for the masses.
Let us not forget, that the classical composers had their imitators, but most, if not all, performed poorly, and did so with limited talent. Cover bands cover lots of different bands, and if they venture into Dan territory, get lost, and sound weak. The Steely Damned is a respectful, classical approach to music that is difficult to perform, and an ensemble that is rich in its selection of talent and nuance.
So to those who feel compelled to respond to those who bark at the Steely Damned moon, just remember, there are those who can't dig Chopin either.
ygk
Name: johnboy
drinking@the milkbar
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 02:24:55
Comments:
Pete: is there a set list for the Damned show available anywhere?
Think there's any corelation between Clas' recent fixation on dog dicks and the nature of the pictures posted here a while back.....
Name: countzir0
Just dug up some of the old stuff
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 12:27:55
Comments:
Forgot to mention something earlier:
Yesterday I was at my parent's house and dug up "Sun Mountain" and "Old Regime." Boy how the sound has changed since those days. And I wish they'd revamp some of those songs like "Oh Wow It's You." You guys keep talking about "The Second Arrangement..." I can call myself an avid DanFan, but before this GB, had never heard of it, and would like to get my hands, of course, on this piece of work. Any suggestions would be appreciated.Rudy: Sounds like an excellent idea to me. As much as Fagen spoke of technology on his last album, I'd be surprised if they didn't slap a little ROM on the disk. Too bad we don't have Fagen's email address, might be able to capitalize on the idea if we could get ahold of 'm.
Gluedtoapost: If I liked country, I might dig your idea for a country tribute to the Dan. I think your idea holds more humour than genius, and nothing wrong with a creative swing on things. Who knows what combining two totally different kinds of music will reap. I once heard a rendition (in college at UNT) of Ozzy Osbourne's "Iron Man" done to the melody of "Stayin' Alive" and could do nothing but basically lol. The first time I hear Brooks and Dunn doing a country version of "Do It Again" they better put up the chickenwire 'cuz beer bottles and tomatoes will fly...at least from my section. Just because you're from Texas doesn't mean you like country, I'll put it like that...
I just can't imagine people yelling "Yeehaawww" while listening to "Haitian Divorce" call me crazy.
Name: Peg
totzke@usa.net
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 12:23:48
Comments:
The lead guitarist for The Steely Damned is Hank Easton. One of the best things about standing where I do on stage is that I'm right next to his amp so I can hear everything he does... You can get a little info about Hank by going here: http://vmusic.com/artists/
then click on Solo Artists, then click on Hank Easton....no earplugs for me...
Name: fezo
florida.room
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 12:07:06
Comments:
An interesting exercise in lyric analysis is to go to one of the web pages that have all the lyrics to the SD and related projects and just start scrolling. Deprived of their musical backdrop, a lot of the songs seem disjointed, non-sensical. With a few exceptions--most notably, "Deacon Blues"--the words don't really stand on their on own.
I was really struck, though, when I recently scrolled through the lyrics for Kamakiriad. Even without the benefit of music, the words tell a coherent seamless story, both inter- and intra-song. While this is obviously partly because it's a concept album, i think it goes beyond that. The writing seems more thoughtout, developed, almost poetic.
I think the cook put something in the brownie I had for lunch
Name: Old Bull Lee
@East St. Louis Toodle OO
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 12:07:06
Comments:
This site needs a jolt of absurdity...or better yet how about some discussion about STEELY DAN!!!! What a friggin' concept....
....gotta get back to my syringe...I mean typewriter...I mean interzone agent/bug....(aka Paul Bowles)
Name: minah
ya know
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 12:06:32
Comments:
Babs, Nice use of space.
mW
Name: babs
@skool
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 12:02:07
Comments:
To say that the Damned was incredible is undoubtedly an understatement & of course old news, anyway figured Id pass on info re: another cover band playing this Friday nite on the Island
Stealing Dan. An excellent way to get your fix, if your a B&T and not as fortunate as some of you folk.
Name: babs
@skool
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 11:55:01
Comments:
Name: rudy
somewhere in the Triangle
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 11:27:54
Comments:
countzir0:
yeah, got/saw that (a very tasty concept/design throughout: gotta figger out who's got that account), got the Inevitable, and listening to SOLD OUT as we speak..."Pallin with Al" is currently my fave....
have you heard of a new album out now? Details Mag. gave it an 8 (out of 10).
HERE's a concept for the new SD album: take a tip from Squirrel Nut Zippers and produce a Multimedia CD, so all these techno-heads can enjoy the new Dan album on the computer...I'm almost over the Director 6 learning curve: I'm available to start running scripts.....rudy
Name: DanNut
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 11:24:53
Comments:
I don’t see much sense in dissecting the performance of a cover band. Suffice it to say they sounded like Steely Dan with Bob taking occasional liberties on the lyrics. (A very negligible shortcoming after a few beers.) After being disappointed by the Greatest Hits type song selection of the 96 tour, and having never heard a bar band do anything but Peg and Rikki, it was great hearing Gaucho and Third World Man.
Name: DrMu
for7secondsitwaslikeaX-masday
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 11:18:44
Comments:
Pete and Co: Looking forward to the rebroadcast. The webmast of LBB e-mailed me to let me know that such info would be posted at their site in a few days...of course, I'm sure syou'll let us know here first...was lucky enough to catch just a few seconds of Don'Take Me Alive..was that Hank Houston on the solo? AWESOME! sounded at least as good as Zingg, and a virtual Carlton! You all must have been valiantly trying to connect things while on line...when the broadcast fizzled out, I got an error message that indicated essentially that there were too many folks trying to access the server than it could handle for whatever reason. Thanks for trying, though.
Ole: It's great to have you back. I may be able to get Woody et al. on vinyl. Is it possible to find on CD...I was back for a quick visit with family in the Old North State recently and was SHOCKED at the traffic and growth...in my day only the billboards blocked the scenic beauty from the road, not the smog and high rises...Durham to Raleigh was a figgin' parking lot on I-40! Must be those 700,000 immigrants from up Nawth this decade drivin' like fools back and forth to Hackensack.
RD: Kamakiriad is very percussive and more R&B based than The Nightfly or SD except for Aja. The bass is mixed way up, the vocals are back, like Aja and 70's R&B stuff. Complex rhythms are being set up by drums and other percussion + many of the keyboards. Notice that the keyboards set up their own rhythms, so that they seemed to be used like a rhythm guitar often instead of supplying a basic chord structure or lyrical accent, say as in Katy Lied. That's why their is little resonance/echo in the sound. Instead, the horn charts are supplying those melodic morsels. There's lots of stuff going on; listening with headphones as suggested earlier is a good idea. I also contend that a lot of Kama (production) is designed to have an eerie, dreamilike quality to reflect DF's apprehension and thoughts about the future. The scenes flow in the songs in a disjointed way kinda like a dream - much more limbic system that SD. Lyrically, great storytelling and imagery...in general, I like the lyrics in the solo efforts at least as much as SD, but I may be a minority here. Try listening to Teahouse on the Tracks, Florida Room, and Snowbound first then ease into the rest.
"hangin' with the mayor and all his friends..."
Name: Pete
petefogel@asan.com
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 10:19:39
Comments:
I just got this email, and I'm not sure where it was originally posted, but thought I'd paste it here since I was just asked about a set list (even though he didn't give Le Bar Bat such a glowing review:-))
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Here's a review I sent earlier today about this Steely DAMNED show I saw last night at Le Bar Bat. Wanted to know if anyone on the list was there. Didn't think there were any tapers, but if there were, please get in touch/spread this show. It was amazing.
Have you ever been expecting something decent, and were so blown away by it that you had a perma-smile on your face and you danced like a fool until 3:15am nonstop? Well, I was that guy last night. We went to see the Steely DAMNED, the best (well, the only) Steely Dan cover band in the land. Evidently they play once a month in San Diego, and they've never played New York before. I guess that's why the turnout was mediocre at best (folks weren't in a line around the block). Lots of people THOUGHT about going, but bagged it for whatever reason. Your bad! But for those of us that braved the Le Bar Bat cheese factor and showed up, they put on a fabulous show. The renditions of the songs were nothing less than perfect, the guitars (HANK HOUSTON - SUPER LEGEND!) had the right tones and didn't miss a note, the female backup singers were right in the mix. Long-haired Bob Tedde led the band and sang like a dream. The horn section was smooth and fluid, you'd think they would have played together more than once. Mike Kenneally (of Zappa fame) played a little guitar as well as switching off on the keys with Zegenhagen. Don and Walt would have been proud of this effort, I assure you. Besides, they played almost EVERYTHING. Let's see what I can remember- it started with the classic 1974 "drunk guy" intro to Boshissatva, Don't Take Me Alive, Sign in Stranger, Night By Night, Josie, Aja (dedicated to the girl whose parents named her Aja after the album), Gaucho, Black Friday, Any Major Dude, Boston Rag, Babylon Sisters, Parker's Band, My Old School, Pretzel Logic, Do It Again, Green Earrings, King of the World, FM, Black Cow, Any World That I'm Welcome To, Hey Nineteen, Dirty Work, I Got the News, Third World Man, Haitian Divorce (complete with perfect Frampton-style talk box - note for note from the Royal Scam!), Peg and Deacon Blues (yes, the sax solo would have freaked out Wayne Shorter or Cornelius Bumpus). Sick setlist, right?!? They even took a request from me, and ripped Kings while we raised a glass! And ALL of Aja! They even played unreleased tracks (The Second Arrangement, from the Gaucho sessions). We didn't leave there until 3:15am, and the hard cores all agreed that we would dance all night and go straight to work if they'd play that long.
I was beside myself with joy- this band totally did IT for me! I'd go to San Diego just to see these guys. Listening to Steely Dan gets you into that mood - lay down serious grooves. The place had a great vibe last night, in spite of the tourist trap this place is. This band did not disappoint, no matter what your expectations were.
Highlights for me were Caves of Altamira, Gaucho, Kid Charlemagne (is Hank Houston actually Larry Carlton Junior?), Home At Last, and Haitian Divorce. Did I ever think I would hear a live Gaucho? Haitian Divorce? You've got to be kidding me! The whole night would have been worth it just to hear a few of these songs, since some have never been performed live.
Best Steely Dan cover band ever? Of course. Best cover band ever, any band? Definitely. It was that good. The only bummer was there didn't seem to be any tapers.
The best part about the night was that most of it was on the
Underhill's! There was a Price Waterhouse tab open at the bar that we took full advantage of for a while. I work for them technically for the next week, so I felt like it was legit ;-).If I ever work in a bar, I would definitely try and get the DAMNED to rock the house for a night;-).
Have a great weekend.
Name: johnboy
fear&loathing@theguestbook
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 10:12:42
Comments:
Clas: Let me understand.....You'll post death threats but you're above posting obscene pictures? Uh huh, I buy that. And you want to know who & where I am so you can attempt to carry out your threats? I don't think so Sunshine.....
Name: davedownunder
funwaywest@lake.nostalgia
Location: not hot'lanta,but close,
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 10:03:56
Comments:
Thanks to everyone who made the Damned Show happen. Wish I could have made it. I hear inside it's unlikely they'll be coming this way anytime soon (read FL, GA, NC) but I say, merely a fan, they're more than welcome, and there are plenty of places to play.. especially here in the land of Scarlett O'Hara.Call Alex Cooley or his buddy whose name I forget.
(isthe Damned Thing on bootleg VHS or even audio? any sat feeds? is it happening again?)
And one other thing, A new Steely Dan CD would be great, a tour would be terrific. But it sounds like some are demanding it. Personally I'm pretty glad that Messers. Becker and Fagan seemed satisfied to concentrate on the quality rather than the quantity.. (to coin a cliche') There were plenty of bands that turned out increasingly mediocre work year after year just to satisfy the record company moguls, or to keep up the alimony and re-hab payments.And for those who have problems with "Kamakiriad," Listen again. It's well-crafted, mature, and tells an interesting story on several levels.
Put it on in the car and drive for a week or so. It should begin to sink in.
Oh.. and "gluedtoapost," what a stunning intellectual process.
Name: Pete
petefogel@asan.com
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 09:48:50
Comments:
I don't remember the exact set list, but a few that stick out that haven't been mentioned are: Parkers Band, Night by Night, King of the World, and an excellent rendition of Kings. Maybe Peg or someone else from the band can help you out with the rest.
Will Lee didn't play but told me he thought the band and the whole atmosphere was very cool.
I'm trying to get a hold of my soundman to find out when we can get the CD's from the show. Once I get them, we'll set a time for the rebroadcast.
Name: countzir0
Hate those bogus posters
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 09:45:14
Comments:
To "Hunter S. Thompson"--Hunter S. Thompson would never make a reference to William Burroughs(caught your Old Bull Lee reference to Burroughs, and am impressed with your knowledge of the Beats at least)--for one thing, Burroughs, bless his soul, is dead, and from the three biographies about H. S. Thompson that I've read, Dr. Gonzo didn't necessarily have amicable feelings about Old Bull Lee one way or another. To get to my point, I think the site is fine as is, and maybe you should take some advice from Irvine Welsh and take a heroin enema so you can chill out enough to post your own name. So there...
Name: Peg
totzke@usa.net
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 09:25:13
Comments:
oleander: A few weeks ago, you asked about some dates for the Keneally tour. They are at http://www.moosenet.com/keneally.html
Name: Case
Closed
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 09:20:14
Comments:
Clas- So it was you who posted those GROSS pictures. Damn, get a life you Swedish asshole!
Name: Luckless Pedestrian
on.the.dunes
Location: Va Beach,
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 09:14:47
Comments:
After some hesitating and scraping together a few zlotnys, I went out and bought the Cherry Poppin' Daddies and Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. Definitely prefer the latter to the former. CPD's lyrics are *dark*, and without the redeeming quirkiness of some SD villains & losers. BBVD doesn't tackle anything heavy in their lyrics, but their music is a bit more.... something. But in any event, it's good to have bands out there with a good horn line, which has always been one of my favorite aspects of SD.
RB:
You'll be my seniorita in jeans and pearls. Are you coming to the 'fest?
--LP
Name: Hunter S. Thompson
@ Old Bull Lee Ranch
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 09:06:04
Comments:
This Site needs an enema!!!!!
Name: Countzir0
@Sun Mountain
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 08:26:33
Comments:
Rudy: Yeah, and if you've got the album "HOT", don't know if you knew it or not, but pop it into the cd-rom on your computer and you'll see all kinds of kick-ass Squirrel Nut outtakes, etc. That chic who does lead-vocals, don't know if you'll agree or not, but that Billy Holliday-esque voice and those cute little dimples, whoa boy, she's sorta "HOT" herself. If you haven't seen the cd-rom part of it yet, try it, you'll have a blast. I have to