SIS Archives -- June 2001

Name: Michael Buffer
@the Blue Custerdome in downtown Reno

Date: Saturday, June 30, 19101 at 23:10:04
Comments:

In the first round aa threw some stiff jabs with little effect. Kinky answered later in the round with a hard right cross to the ribs, then a viscious left hook, and a few choice words for the ref. aa was on the ropes and staggered as the bell sounded to end Round 1. Score the round a clear 10-9 for Kinky.

Ref: Z sound's like shit to me also but I like where you're coming from...

It's a relief to hear that Howard and SteveeDan use software to get those damn nuances I sometimes miss. I was expecting a perfect pitch confession out of Howard, but I'll settle for an electronic aid for now...
I've never bought a computer or CD player myself- to call me a luddite would probably be the understatement of all time- but as we all know-
1-Rael men don't use computers
2-You can't play the blues if you own a PC
I intend to post the minutes of the CLONAID trial the boyz are involved in, but, with all the talk about Glamour Profession, I have to add a little something of my own.
I doubt any of you remember this, but I made a post a few months ago about listening to GP while laying down on my sperm-stained couch (don't ask) and I begged someone to tell me what was going on during that huge synth solo in the middle of GP.
Yup. The synth solo was a dream. There is a little keyboard interlude before the guitar solo, but that wasn't what I was referring to.
Anyway, as I was driving my otterhound up to Connecticut a month or two ago for some intervention therapy from some OH breeders (manly women, to say the least), I happened to have a tape of the Gaucho album and grooved along the Hutch to it most of the way.
As usual (for the last 11 years anyway), my consciousness was a little altered and I almost flipped out when I heard the minor ninth chords voiced high on the electric piano- they sounded like goddamn balls of fire! This thing sounds like Weill on fluvoxamine!
Anyway, I didn't have my little gittar handy so I made a mental note to transcribe this shit at the first chance I get.
Well, I decided that, since I wrote out most of 2 Against Nature because the book hadn't come out yet, I would consult Mr. Wright for the changes to GP. No use in overtaxing an already half-fried mind.
Unfortunately, he doesn't have it, so I ambled down to the Central Queens Branch Library in Jamaica (where the white man very seldom is seen)and scored the SD book and also found the new 2 A N book and the new edition of the Brian Sweet biography!
So since someone asked for the changes to GP, here they are-
Am9/Am9/Bbm6/Bbm6 G7/Cm9/Cm9/DM7/DM7/Cm9/Cm9/DM7/DM7/Eb (no3rd addA/A b5/ That was the intro.
D13 D9/ D9/ Em9 Em6/ Em69/C13 C9/CM7Dbass/G13 G9/ G13/ F13 F9/F9/Db13 Db9/ Db9/ EbM7/ EM7 F9/ G9 F9/ Eb9 Db9/ then repeat the first 13 bars of this section and go to
BbM13 A13/ EbwAb bass/Eb addFw G bass/AbwBb bass/ Bbw C bass/ Fm7/G7b5/ EbM7 D7#9/2/4 bar-G7#11b9/4/4-Cm9/Cm7/ F13/ F13/ DbM7w Ab bass/DbM7w Ab bass A11th A13/ repeat back to D13 (beginning of section)but end on AbM9 instead of DDbM7 then
Bridge:
Bbm9/ Bbm9/ Gb9/ Gb13/ AbM7/ G7#9/ GbM7 F7#9/ DbM7w Eb Bass/ then go back to D13 again but take coda after 27 bars to keyboard interlude based on intro.
I realize a lot of this sounds like shit, but at least it's a beginning.

well said Hutch....he really was a humble man....always made everyone feel at ease and like he was just one of the folks....I think guitar players everywhere will feel his loss, but those of us in the south seem to have a special place for the kind, gentle soul as well as the great guitarist....he really was Chet Atkins, CGP.

I'm turning in....just feel like I lost a friend.

Ed - I bought the 5.1 Guacho and 2VN last week. They were in Best Buy and buying them just seemed to be the right thing to do. I figured that eventually I'll be able to play them. I though the same thing when I bought the 'New Frontier' video a few years ago, and I still haven't found anything to play that on

I think my TV set will play these discs. I'm off to try it.
Aloha
Geoff

Very sad indeed. Chet Atkins was a kind and humble man. A great, great talent. Heaven's music is just a little sweeter now.

midnite cruiser-well said man. when i saw the evening news about chet, i couldnt believe it. i wish i was more familiar with the mans music. but it doesnt take familiarity to realize the man had a touch of genious.
may i suggest "neck and neck"?

technokat-no probs.

dif

CNN link to Chet's obit:

http://www.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/30/atkins.obit.ap/index.html

Chet Atkins died??????

oh man, I *really* hate to hear that....he really was one of the guitar greats of all time in my opinion....emulated by so many but a true original in his own right....I remember when my Mom got me the Chester & Lester album for my birthday one year....Chet Atkins and Les Paul playing tunes together.

I need to find something appropriate to listen to....for Chet.

*sigh*
MC

Hoops!*
Yeah, we got beat by five minutes on the scoop, guys.
Next time...
But still... terrible news for guitar aficionados everywhere. Goes without saying, really.
Didn't he develop the "chicken pickin'" technique?
Why is everyone dying all of a sudden?

* a la Seinfeld's "Newman".

Chet Atkins, RIP

Sorry I was totally not responsive in chat. Nothing I typed would enter so I left. When I came back you were gone. To answer you about Fagen and Becker, I'd have to say no, but you never know.

And now for my new book:

"Be a dildo, or just look like one."

A FEMALE, a fertile female in the PLush area, that is. I DO want more kids. Can't get enough...

And me thinks you wish you were.

Midnite: you're a gentleman and a scholar; thanks much, man.

ole: you're the second person this week i've heard talk up the Strayhorn bio. i take that as a cosmic nudge as to my next book purchase

Blaise- Methinks you're a dildo.

OH look! An Oregonian has mistaken the GB for the Dating Game!
A Big DATING KISS/Wave..thing..? out to yah there bud! ; )

I didn't even have ONE cuppa in me at the time of that posting.
OK! OK! jeese give a girl a break eh?

do YOU get anything right?
Go back to your "snob" GB and obey all the rules now, don't forget!!

Blaise~ I'm glad someone does- get my drift that is.. apparently
Fretless and a few others do.. the rest are over in the Blue Book..( or somewhere) teeheeeee. ; )

I am a 56 year old male and I am seeking A long-term relationship with a Male. I live in Plush, Oregon, United States and I will not be willing to relocate. I consider appearance to be Unspecified and intelligence to be Unspecified.

My hair is Unspecified, my eyes are Unspecified. I am 5'11'' (180 Cm.) tall. My weight is Unspecified and my body build is Average. I am Never Active, a Non-Smoker and I drink Socially.

My ethnic background is White/Caucasian, My religion is Unspecified. My political inclination is Unspecified. My astrological sign is Gemini. I am Single, I have 8 kids (They live with me) and I want more. I grew up in Maine.

I have completed Unspecified and the emphasis of my studies was in Telecommunications. My occupation is Unspecified:Inside Account Rep and my income is Unspecified.

And The kinds of music I like are Classic Rock n' Roll, Modern Rock 'n Roll, New Age, Rap but mostly everything STEELY DAN.

Hi,
"I would just love to hear the DTS 5.1 remix of Gaucho but it doesn't play on a regular DVD player, you need that special
multi-channel decoder. Has anyone else heard this yet?"

Yes Blaise I have heard it and all you need is a DTS compatible
dvd player for the 5.1 DTS sound along with a 'Home Theater Reciever"

Its a very nice mix with some additions on this version of Gaucho.

Ole- I'm Kauai bound later today and I have lots to say about the
response. I will call you soon.

Ed Beatty

http://www.rollingstone.com/Photos/bigphoto.asp?gid=1283&seq=1&afl=avp

nice collection of SD Photos

HELP!!! EMERGENCY!!

Our bass player went to the hospital this morning, and we have a gig tonight. If anybody knows anyone in the NYC/NJ area who plays bass and can do mainstream R&B stuff, please, please contact me.

You can e-mail me at the address above and I will get back to you ASAP.

Thanks for your help,

Lisa G

i went to a todd r link to try and get concert information the other day and i didnt know that todd was replaced in the nazz by rick nielsen.

i befriended jim petersson when we worked together for met life in the late 70s and cheap trick were just coming into their own. jim is tom peterssons(cheap tricks bassist and backround vocals)brother. my drinking exploits with jim in 77 and 78 denver were legendary. at least to us they were. jim must have told me about rick replacing todd in the nazz, but those days are a blur now and i really didnt dig todd back then like i do today.

does that make me twice removed from the maestro, todd?

dif

eLLe - Used to be on Napster (and now on things like Bearshare), some people would trade Steely Dan classics such as "Stuck In the Middle with You, Carry on Wayward Son, Year Of the Cat... ;o) funny stuff. And that's the Plush video you're talking about there but I catch your drift.
Hey I did post on Hoops Black and Blue but noone told me I had to use the same handle wherever I went.

it was "year of the cat" in the plush video. do you get anything right?

A while back when people were submitting jokes to cheer up AL.. there was one on PMS.. can you please post that again whoever sent it.(?)

Blaise~ yeah I know!! The tv was on and I heard the question at the time that I entered in the E-Mail:* slot...
and I couldn't believe it, the contestant DID have to use a life line, because she didn't know the answer ( obviously) The thing is the night before I was in the chat goofing around with some people and we were saying things like, " Yes I just love Boston's Do it Again" and silly things like that..spoofing I guess on the video Aja, when the camera is outside in the lineup to a SD concert and some chick says she loves SD's On the Border (AL Stewart)LOL
: )

I just had this flashback to the mood rings people used to wear in the seventies. I wonder if a guestbook background could change color at a given moment, depending on the current mood. That'd be neat. Again, thanks to Hoops for the inspiration.

Well you're the one calling him "Lemon" here, no? Jack Lemmon was one of the greats, I SAID. I don't mention Hollywood obits usually. In this case, I made an exception since I admired the man. Learn to read and then, we'll talk.

Blaise- Jack Lemon "no range as an actor" Geez, you no less about acting then you do about music!

µ - By the way, I think you did get flamed over there. It's hard to tell. Hoops, he's either very subtle or he's no good at it, take your pick.
I would just love to hear the DTS 5.1 remix of Gaucho but it doesn't play on a regular DVD player, you need that special multi-channel decoder. Has anyone else heard this yet?

daaaaano - I just loved Jack Lemmon. He didn't have much range as an actor but what he did, his typecast, he did extremely well. That kind of performance will be sorely missed, especially considering the current Hollywood crop.

Aja - Don't stare, I said. I know it's hard considering... where are you, btw? I feel like chatting now. It's my time of the month.

eLLe - Speaking of synchronicity, check out the YGT spoof from last Sunday morning and marvel at the Regis references thrown in. Now what happened a couple of days later? Someone used her lifeline (a phone call) on a Millionaire SD question. Whoa
Hard to beat that one, eh? smooch

St.Al....just set up my Live365 Radio and am grooving to some Banyan Trees Radio....very nice! excellent song lists and audio quality! 'preciate the good tunes while surfing!

MC

Hey, who can recommend a good and affordable DVD player that does DVD audio??? CDs were always on the edge of not having enough data. Without Roger Nichols in the booth, despite higher signal/noise and increased dynamic range for CDs, vinyl had the potential in the end to hold more data (in analog form of course).

But this explanation seals up DVD-audio (a standard format since 1998) as the way to listen to music: DVD-Audio can provide dramatically higher quality stereo than CD with a sampling rate of up to 192kHz (compared to 44.1 kHz for CD). DVD-Audio digital sound can be delivered with up to 24 bits of data (compared to 16 bits for the CD standard). Like DVD-Video, a typical DVD-Audio disc contains up to seven times the data capacity of a CD. For DVD-Audio, this additional data capacity is used primarily for music. This may include text information such as artist biographies, playlists and lyrics; photo galleries; and even video clips (don't want that, I'll buy Plush - give me the damn music).

got kicked out craig...and my lovely tones...write me and we'll continue our convo...

thanks to those who've chatted with me tonight....GE2, ninny, dif, NYBill, craigster, kranky, tones...i had fun...sorry i got kicked out, you two...

jenny

Okay, this is all I wanted to do...

My e-mail is jennywenny_qt@hotmail.com....well, okay, just blew my cover there!

Anyway, before I say anymore, e me...we'll talk a bit...about before...you know what I mean...

jenny

Anvand garna ett mjukt underlag.

I thought Purdue was in Iowa.

Oh, my feeble Sony Handycam with the guilt-in mic is a special "Jewish" Edition. It also asks me when I'm going to grow up and get a real job.

The Doctor Wu band (the other LA-based Steely Dan tribute band) is playing at the world famous Whisky A-Go-Go Friday, July 6. I invite all Los Angeles based Steely fans to come out to see their show. Let's support Doctor Wu, for they do not play in public very often. Maybe if there is a good turnout, the band might be convinced to play live more often. If you do see the band, be sure to meet the band's drummer and leader, Paul C. I'm sure that he would be delighted to meet you.

This PSA is now concluded.

Steveedan (you know what goes here...)

Hey everybody -

Hope all's going well. The Steely Fan Band (SFB)gig went well last night. I video taped the show, but my feeble Sony Handycam guilt-in mic can't handle the volume. Quite distorted. I'll have to ask Pete Fogel how he had The Steely Damned video tape come out so well with the good sound quality.

To Dan(W1P)- I too don't know enough to respond to the reggae question. The SFB will be playing at 14 Below in Santa Monica, California on Tuesday July 10th. (NOT THE NINETH.) Cray Zee, I hope to see you there. By the way, that giant boot-car is brown.

Lately, a lot of offers to play have been coming in to the SFB's website. There's a place that asked us to play there July 5 in Sacremento called at Crawdad's River Cantina. Any Sacremento based folks heard about this place. They boast about a floating barge which is used as the stage and is surrounded by tropical vegitation. Sounds fun, but I tend to get seasick.

Take it easy.

Steveedan (MFM for the SFB)

Don't look now, but it's Kinky and aa squaring off on the peaceful blue board. Leeeetttttttttttttttttttt's get ready to ruuuuummmmmmmmbbbbbllleee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crazy Z -- I live in Benedict Canyon (but used to live on Nebraska near Purdue). Naw, I really mean Royal Scam -- I think that is a serious raggae song with close to the proper beat, all the political implications of "Conscious Music" and a lyrical content addressing West Indian natives arriving in NYC.

Jim and Amy!! Have been really busy, sorry it took me so long to post. Just wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed meeting you both and what fun it was sharing our little corner of the shore with you. We absolutely HAVE to get together again, you said something about NASCAR (non-athletic sport centered around rednecks). Well Jim, I'm up for it!! I choose not to drink before watching a bunch of speeding cars circle around and around and around and around and around and around............get the idea? Wouldn't be a pretty picture I'm afraid.
Oh, BTW, Cyn and I arranged for the monsoon to prove to you guys that we weren't just a couple of wussey housewives who couldn't come through in a crisis. LMAO!
Wish you could have stayed through Sunday, daughter and horse had a really good day, they both performed beautifully. And you could have watched me win the Reserve Championship in the western division. De Proof is in da puddin'!!
Hope to be able to get together again soon, stay well!!

somebody said this a few days ago as well---

Just waiting for Archie Bunker at the gates, hes my date for
the John Lee Hooker party.

---and Archie died too!!!

strange place this : /

I find it odd that I mentioned the funny out-takes of Grumpy and Grumpier Old Men, the other day and then Jack leaves us.
The Odd Couple re-unites. Walter was my kinda man.His last movie
with Meg Ryan, was the best. That humor.. unsophisticated..
snappy..literally Roll-On_the_Floor_Laughing-Out-Loud silliness
That's how I spell LUVABLE : )

W1P -- Its closer to work than home, but very doable. I just may check it out. I would have gone to that North Hollywood Festival thing, but was too committed on Father's Day.

Sorry I can't respond to your prior post, but I don't really know Steel Pulse or Burning Spear. I'll keep an open ear. Did you mean to compare The Royal Scam to I Shot the Sheriff or Haitian Divorce?

What part of town do you hail from?

LP: Don't miss the North Mississippi All Stars if ya gets the chance. Heh, you're in the midst of Jazzfest 'fusion - too many acts, not enough 'P.

Crazy Zee, sounds like you live pretty close to 14 Below (which will host The Steely Fan Band on 7/9 (I believe). Skunk should come sit in with them. (I'm seriously bummed that not ONE person responded to my Burning Spear/Steel Pulse message)

Yes Duncan, something has changed the guestbook has moved over there:

http://www.dandom.com/guestbook/

Enjoy!!!

Back fom Spain .
Whats's happening have I missed anything ?

I heard that Nerdie Pardue tuned all the guitars to B#, whilst playing in Pennsylvania.

OWE!
booooo..hisssss..booooo

What happens if you use Pengo Power for the electric tuner?

We hear the B#, yesterday?

Hoopsie, is that you?

******tumblin tumbleweeds******

Dano: Prefab is (come)back??? IMHO Two Wheels Good, From Langley Park to Memphis and Jordan, The Comeback *may* be the finest post-jazz recordings outside Steely Dan. I have no doubt that Wild Horses and Machine Gun Ibiza are the finest engineered pop recordings I've ever heard outside the Immortal...

Blaizer , Glengary was indeed superb but got limited play over here but I have a copy at least , The sinus bit in the Odd Couple still does ma heed in Truly Magnificent.
And Blaise!! Julia is she good in the lurve department?? Does she like Barry White when in the mood??

TWM , Did you see Prefab last week on GMTV, YES GMTV singing Cowboy Dreams , the wee man came running upstairs shouting!!Dad Dad ,Prefab Sprout are on telly?? Paddy still is the business after all these years??

LP , Will get back to you on that test thingy as soon as i have 5 mins??

Au Re Va daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaano

other dan-fest possiblities:

Newport Folk Fest
Sunday, August 5, 2001
11:30 a.m.-6:30 p.m.
Fort Adams State Park
$48 in advance/$53 at the gate

Fort Stage:
Indigo Girls
Nanci Griffith
Paul Brady
Joan Osborne
Toshi Reagon and Big Lovely
North Mississippi Allstars with special guests Robert Randolph and John Medeski

Borders Stage:
John Mooney
The Campbell Brothers
Sara Hickman
Mary Lou Lord
Rory Block
Kate McDonnell
RIG: Tao Rodriguez-Seeger, Johnny Irion, and Sarah Lee Guthrie
Mike Doughty
The Waifs

Please note Michelle Shocked (a personal favorite) and Jonatha Brook have also been added this week, not sure which day they are playing though.....

or of course, there is also:

SATURDAY, AUGUST 11
Fort Adams State Park

Fort Stage: 11:30 am - 6:30 pm
Diana Krall
Dave Brubeck
Karl Denson's Tiny Universe
Roy Hargrove Quintet
Jerry Gonzalez and the Fort Apache Band

Mercedes Benz Pavilion: Noon
Ravi Coltrane
DJ Logic's Project with special guest Graham Haynes
Big Bill Morganfield
Simon Shaheen and Qantara
Nora York

decisions, decisions - sigh.....

Howdy all

Just posting to see if any of you lovely peepil are up for some chat

Lurkers of the world unite!!

Peace
Al

Jonatha Brooks is playing a free concert Thursday August 9th at 5:30 PM at Copley Square in Boston - anybody in?

Come to think of it, I should tell the shoe repair guy that the next time Mr. Baxter comes in, he should say:

You must be joking son,
Where did you get those shoes?

Bernard Purdie overdubbed all of Jeff Baxter's parts on The Village People records.

Howard: Webdrone and you know who recognize a class act when they see one- you are most deserving of the official link status. Perhaps they will award you an MSD [thrust upon you?] This is like an MBE* only the statuette isn't something you'd want to have out on the mantle.

or, maybe you would...
Kudos
Fretless

*Member of the British Empire- for the gringos, Clas.

Yesterday, I went to the shoe repair.
The one on Santa Monica just west of Barrington.
The one with the little car in front shaped like a boot.

The shop owner was talking to another gentleman about the neighboors.
They talked about the guy who bought The Record Plant recording studio across the street.
Some guy with a moustache who played with The Village People.
The shop owner couldn't remember his name.

Then he remembered -- Jeff Baxter.

I said Jeff Baxter played with Steely Dan and the Doobie Bros.
He said he didn't know about that, but was pretty sure he played with The VIllage People.
I said I didn't know about that, but heard he was now consulting for the government on defense systems.
He said he didn't know about that, but Mr. Baxter came in often to have his shoes fixed.

Skunk and I get our shoes repaired at the same place.
That's my claim to fame.

Hey there Blaise

had a few moments this morning to sorta say hello
been busy here and away too long, hope you had a great escape

I like Dr Dot better than that old lady/ young lady psychology set of pictures - so that's what Sting was talking about on his first solo record - Dream of the Blue Turtles

HOward - congrats on the ODP reference

Jim # - sounds like you had a nice little cajun get together with Cynth last weekend

StevieD - hows the transition to teaching going?

where's Gina these days?

wonder if Susan St. James ever read liner notes?

wormy

memory rush over me

that's funny, i don't remember authorizing dr dot to use that image of me - sheesh, the internet is a crazy place! where did i put my attorney's phone number, oh yes, that's right, aus torres, esq.!

Dr. Dot's pilots we'll never see on NBC:

Dr. Dot's Sex-tant

The Undersea World of Jock Cousteau

Dr. Dot's Fingerpainting by Numbers

Dr. Dot's Body Lithograph Series of Endgangered Species

Dr. Dot's Hands-on Biography of Kasey Kasem: Reaching for the Stars

Opposite of an Aerial View

Dr. Dot's Extreme No Fez Games

Dr. Dot's Surivivor: the Small of the Back

Blaise: I'm not exactly sure, but Hoops may have flamed me on the EGB. Cool...

exhibit 67 and 68...

Was that the B side to 25 or 6 to 4?

d-i-f-f-e-r-e-n-t
And "sextant"
indeed Edd.

One could measure the distance from the edge where the sun don't shine straight down to the meridian where the angled side of the beam shined. You'd then have the length of one side of a right triangle. One of those things used by ancient mariners could be used to determine the angle described by this side and the side of the beam NOT shinging straight down.

Now we'd have angle/side/angle and we could determine the length of the remaining side and the hypotenuse, hence determing how far away the sun is, which is at the point described by the intersection of the vertical ray and the hypotenuse.

Name: Blaise
done staring and watching paint dry

Date: Friday, June 29, 19101 at 06:45:48
Comments:

I see things are slow down in New Orleans this morning. We need a worm tom trading card now... hint hint
And what about females? Do't they have a league of their own?

Ole - the best way to appreciate and understand this artwork is to examine it from up close and viewing it from all angles, it's true. Thanks once again go to Hoops for the tip... huh... scoop:

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I draw your attention to exhibit 67 and 68:

http://www.drdot.de/dot/dot67.jpg
http://www.drdot.de/dot/dot68.jpg

Guestbook-worthy material? I do believe so. It's fabulous!

eleven wacky awards walter might win in a
sicko fuckhead world

12) The Sizzler Award for best backyard bar-b-que conversation piece
11) The Fez award for most distinguished condom appreciation in a song
10) The Jethro and Ellie Mae award for furthering close family ties via Cousin Dupree
9) The Better Sound Sincere and Appreciative Award for following too many "THanks very much, pre ciate it"s from Mr Fagan
8) the Mis-identity Award for too many "You look like that guy in Steely Dan, no, you're not him"
7) THe Looks Like A Strat What's THat award for using Sadowsky guitars
6) The Sierra CLub's Top 2 Most Wanted Award for declaring his outright battle with the natural in an album title
5) THe Expensive Kiss Off Award from the male patrons of the Custerdome
4) THe What Did That Guy Ever Do? award from critics for things seemingly not missing from the Nightfly
3) The IntraBand Contraband Award for putting romance back into the Steely Dan touring band
2)THe YEah Right award from the GB for not taking his posts serious
1) THe Bastard Axed My Take award from adoring studio musicians the world over

gimt

Eleven Whacky Awards Walter Won't Win:

¥ The Lady Bing (outstanding sportsman-like conduct - Avocado League)
¥ The Bunsen Prize (since he awards it himself)
¥ The Grammy for best rap over a stolen track (new category)
¥ A picture-massage from Dr.Dot
¥ The "I survived Rickie Lee for a year way back when" RIAA Award
¥ The Lifetime Achievement Award that goes with the above
¥ The Goncourt for Through With Buzz
¥ People's Sexiest Man Alive (dumb luck my friend won't suck me in this time, *I* win)
¥ The GB Award for Anon of the Year (lp won, of course)
¥ The Christian Coallition's "Stand up guy of the year" Award
¥ The Brit for Elton-like conduct at an Award Show

sicko frenchie fuckhead

Hutch - interesting sitar link, and it's a great story about the Ravi tuning-up performance!

Stevee - yes, using G/A as an A11 chord is a nice one to use. I think 11ths and 13ths are the chords that have the largest number of different interpretations. Yours means you have 7th 9th and 11th but no 3rd, others might include the 3rd but drop the 9th or 11th, others would include the whole damn lot ...

New ODP updates - what can I say?!? I'm just glad to be able to
share thoughts and ideas on the music. Thanks to the webdrone for their continued efforts on the ODP - it's a fine site. And if it wasn't for the super-fine music of D+W, I wouldn't have done any of that stuff anyway ...

Howard

For the record, I was called both a "sicko frenchie" and a "fuckhead" on this forum yesterday and I still haven't experimented with alternative guestbooks.
Thick, thick turtle shells on silicone, I tell ya. But when it's served in an artistic fashion like that, I don't mind at all.

Jimbo - Hi! Now, normally I wouldn't comment such on hit-parade fodder but since Nelly Furtado is Canadian, I have to agree with your sentiments. Not only that, she also had a hit song called "Like a Bird". This makes a strong case for the debutante under these trees, no doubt.

ole- I did stare and it was beautiful, you're right. It's full of those strategically placed, artistically relevant little turtles. And if you stare long enough, you can not only tell that those are fake but also that she doesn't shave. Yes, the bare truth comes out and hits you, when you stare.
Now they don't want any birds at Hoopsie's place. Or so they say. I was just wondering if animals were allowed in there.

Jen - Was that a Julia Roberts lookalike or the real thing? Only you know for sure, right? And it's "Kiefer" she was whispering, I'm certain, not Blaise. People have made this mistake before and they were forgiven.

Clas - Have cooler heads prevailed in the Stockholm smog? It does seem hotter than usual this summer already. Someone tell Dubya to lay off on sucking his freon crack pipe for a little while, every protective layer you can enumerate is peeling, bleeding depleted, expletives deleted. He's not listening, hun? Figures...

Jack Lemmon, sigh... I have to mention it when true talent is lost for good. The man was a master when it came to the portrayal of the anxious little man. In Glengary Glen Ross, in The Out-of Towners, etc, he wad absolutely fabulous, eh? RIP

Paula Poundstone serves today's brand of OJ. Another unbelievable twist added to our collective soapdish. When I was an early teen, I looked up to the Juice in every way. This one here is much easier to stomach.

Too many awards and tributes for Steely Dan? Is there such a thing as too much of a good thing in this case? Wondering if this interferes with the creative process in any way. I hope not.

Milosavich extradited to the Hague,

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Jen--Me too.

tones--thanx for another laugh. Squonk's, eight EDT, on me.

Blaise--Stare at the body paint for 10 minutes and you'll get to the deepest layer of the message.

Howard, Fretless, Mu, NMN, Edd, Hutch, steveedan--thanx for bending my mind and the notes, & Howard, thanx for the reminder of Denny Dias' great piece on the ODP. That's why some places in some songs just transport you, and others are just duds. It's like fractals--there is infinite space between the tones. Must stop now. Getting dizzy.

Edd....you finally figured it out! it was all a hoax....everything they taught us in school was a lie!

actually, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the ancient scientists didn't use the same reasoning to support their views of the universe.

Yeah, I got a kick out of Julia/Ben post too....thought it was a little out of place until I caught the GB twist.

'night folks

MC

To whoever posted the Julia Roberts newsclip, take it easy on
big Black Cow and get outta here.

Tonight on VH1, there was a special on Singers and Songwriters and how the music industry has treated them (like shit).

While Don and Walt weren't involved in the special, Dave Matthews, David Gray, Aimee Mann and others were interviewed
about trying to sell their records in a homogenized, company packaged pop industry world.

Don and Walt would have been good people to talk to due to their Grammy wins this year. No music videos, lack of radio airplay,
and nearly two million sales worldwide later, The pop industry
must still be shaking it's head.

The special will repeat at 11:30 pm tonight.

Personally, I think Nelly Furtado will beat Britney to a pulp. ;)

Okay...I actually laughed out loud at that one...

jenny

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) -
Oscar-winning actress Julia Roberts and beau Benjamin Bratt have ended their four-year relationship, his publicist said on Thursday, confirming a New York tabloid report that they had broken up.

``Yes, that's true I can confirm that,'' Bratt's publicist Kelly Bush told Reuters, adding, ``Benjamin has no comment.''

Roberts' publicist declined to comment.

Bratt, 37, who stars on TV's ``Law and Order,'' and is currently shooting the feature film ``Abandon'' with Katie Holmes, reportedly initiated the breakup after he was unable to get Roberts to commit to marriage, and after she reportedly called him "Blaise" during an intimate moment, according to an article in Thursday's New York Daily News. It is not known to whom she was refering.

It was unclear when the couple, Bratt and Roberts, broke up, a source said, though it appears Roberts has been interested in this mysterious "Blaise" person for sometime. According to some sources, a huge point of contention was a "trading card", though in what context it isn't clear, leading some to speculate that "Blaise" is a pet name for some well-known sports figure.

It's important to follow the laws that made in this country, unless you have enough money to do whatever the hell you want then buy your way out of justice.

Don't forget to teach your children that.

that bastard!

Looks like Bill Gates is the latest crook to get off scot free. I guess he got his money's worth out of that "election", as did the NRA, "Christian" right, environmentally evil corporations, the tobacco industry, price-gouging energy companies...

...of the royal scam.

d-i-f-f-e-r-e-n-t

And "sextant"

/e

Something bothers me. Has for years...

In one of MC's wonderful W.Va pics, the sun comes thru the clouds forming a distinct beam with the two "sides" at very diferent angles.

Let's suppose the light came thru the clouds from such a direction that one side of the beam hit the ground at a 90 degree angle. The other side of the beam would be at an angle pointing toward the sun.

The sunny spot area on the ground created by this sunbeam would have a distinct size. One could measure the distance from the edge where the sun shined straight down to the meridian where the angled side of the beam shined. You'd then have the length of one side of a right triangle. One of those things used by ancient mariners could be used to determine the angle described by this side and the side of the beam NOT shinging straight down.

Now we'd have angle/side/angle and we could determine the length of the remaining side and the hypotenuse, hence determing how far away the sun is, which is at the point described by the intersection of the vertical ray and the hypotenuse.

I bet it turns out to be no further than 20 miles away. 30 tops.

...nothin' but tumbleweeds blowin through here...

There's a local (Marin Co. - SF Bay area) band around here called

Chrome Johnson...

...apparently named after one of the guitars played in the band, however I'm told the steely reference wasn't lost on the band members. Legend has it the guy was playing with his shiny Johnson and his mom walks in and goes, "That's a chrome Johnson!" Thus a band name was born.

When the hell is Squonks going to reopen? I'm damn thirsty!

piece

t

chat?

somebody/anybody?

dif

I just want to say that I love Steel Pulse (particularly Rally Round the Flag, Ku Klux Klan and Handsworth Revolution [which features a precursor to "rap" from David Hinds]) and Burning Spear (particularly Marcus Garvey and Do You Remember the Days of Slavery). I also think that The Royal Scam is one of the best raggae tunes ever made (and beats the ever livin snot out of Eric's I Shot the Sheriff). Just musin W1P

Hank, eLLe, Edd....thanks for the kind words on our little NRAO page....we had fun visiting and enjoyed doing the page too.

out into the cool of the evening....I WISH!!

MC

chat?

SteveeD- take yer laptop and stream it LIVE for us? : )

Midnite: Real nice pix, and I especially like the ones that juxtapose the bucolic West Virginia countryside with the massive telescope.

My parents and youngest sister live near Huntington, and they can testify that Senator Byrd has done a good job of getting West Virginia its share of big government things. And then some...

The ÒB# - C being (or not being) the same noteÓ discussion is very interesting. Since my perspective is purely from the piano aspect, I still interpret these 2 notes as being the same enharmonically. I didnÕt know that a violinist could play slightly different tones for these 2 notes. Unless I used the pitch-bend wheel, I could not do this, and besides IÕm too busy playing the rapidly-firing complex chords that come my way in the Steely Dan music.

Howard Ð I donÕt think that there are the problems you mentioned in the SlowGold software. Download it for free and see if it works better for you and please let me know. Regarding naming chords, I agree with the mu as it relates to a (6)(7) chord. The major 2nd and minor 2nd dissonances really spice up the chords and I find it hard to play without them Ð it gets too boring. When I see a 13th chord (like a C13) I voice it like this: C or octaves of C in the bass (left hand) and in the right hand I play either 3 notes(from lowest to highest pitch): Bb-E-A, or 4 notes: Bb-E-D-A. It is confusing if an 11th chord implies that the 9th interval is present or not. I just think of an 11th chord as a simple triad over the bass note which would be the 2nd note in the scale indicated by the simple triad. If it were a D11, I would be playing D or octaves of D in the bass (left hand) and with the right hand play a C triad in either root, 1st or 2nd inversion. You can jazz it up a little bit by adding a 4th note to the right hand chord, the Major 7th, in this case a B. If you play it in this voicing: G-B-C-E with a D in the bass, you get one of those great Fagen chord voicings. Try it out.

Clas Ð If you read the previous paragraph, you will notice when you go through the Black Cow solo chart I sent you that this exact chord is the second-to-last chord written on the first line of music on that chart. The F11 chord on the second line is the same voicing as well. Check it out man.

3 more hours and it's off to Irvine for the load-in and sound check. Performance begins in 7 hours at 8:30 PM.

If ya can't keep movin' at least keep groovin'

Steveedan (MFM for the SFB)

three as in three tracks of whacks ;-)

"a could way"
erm.. a good way. rather ; )

Edd: I think some of the string vs. drum pitch elevation may at least *in part* be through the same or somewhat different mechanisms or a combination.

In the case of the plucked string, the greater tension increases the stiffness of the string, or spring in a sense. the frequency for an oscillating spring or string ;-) is:

f = 1/(2 x pi) x sqr.rt (k/m)

where: k = stiffness
and m = unit mass

So frequency will increase in proportion to the square root of the stiffness of the string.

In the case of a drummer hitting a drum hard there are three factors that could increase the "general" pitch heard:

1) The harder whack deforms the drum "lid/membrane" (sorry musicians) more increasing tension and pitch through the frequency equation

2) The drum lid (and even the stick) may be "viscoelastic." Many materials when deformed rapidly are elastic, like a spring. They bounce back quickly, When stuck more rapidly the lid stiffens up and therefore increases the pitch. When struck or deformed slower, the material is more viscous, it has less stiffness and dissapates a higher % of energy. Skeletal muscle is a classic example. If stretched rapidly like a windup immediately before a tennis forehand (and afternoon at Wimbledon), the muscle acts like a spring and creates a good deal of force and power with the swing. If Venus Williams is stretching her hamstrings between matches for flexibility she should do so slowly as so her muscles are more viscous and compliant for greater range of motion.

3) When a solid object is hit hard as opposed to soft, the stiking object ends to remian in contact while the struck object attempts to oscillation. The result is a higher pitched dissonance caused by damping that oscillation. Try this. Stike a Pentel pen on a desk with the toop on and the shaft of the pen perpendicular to the desk. Hit and lift quickly. Slowly increase the frequency, but not the force. You should notice not much of a change in pitch. Now, do the same thing, only increase the force. Notice how the pitch goes up. Pretty cool.

4) This is a wild card. As the stick (made of wood) strikes drum lid and we increase the force, the stick bends more. As it bends more, it stiffens up. As it becomes more stiff, the stick itself contributes to the higher pitch. When two objects collide, the sound is based on the material properties of both objects and other stuff. Notice that when a golf ball strikes a tile floor, it creates a sound with a higher pitch than when the same golf ball strikes a wood floor...

LOL.. since The 4th of July falls on a Wednesday this year
most of the celebrations.. firewroks etc will be held on Sat. and Sunday-the 1rst Canada Day!!! heheeeeee! well in my burg
anyways and I hope you have a could one Blaise ..and no I won't be crying in my maple syrup LOL you sicko Frenchie!!
but you know I mean that in a good way* rib*
Cheers!!

why...thankyou! and I invite you to check out
the Canadian underground jazz stylee..( he-he)
Black Action Committee
black jazz number 3..nice stuff.

too many ed(d)'s - sorry, saw ed(d) quickly and got mixed up again - lol big time - not the spammer, nope, just posted to the wrong ed(d)

ah well, back to my mining operation

"hey edd, check your e from last week (!)"

I assume you mean e-mail? I don't remember getting any email from you (you?) last week, but then I was being spammed and had filtering set up...

Or did I just forget?

feel free to resend... (unless you're the SPAMMER!)

and theys missin some mighty fine cookin right now!! come on get your Real Players in gear.. let's go!!! ; )

Webdrone-Thanks for letting us know about the update on the SD site (and about the Howard link) and the link to the Les Paul award.

Thanks again SD webdrone!

nice !

it's "Jazzy" night ..( Thursdays)

hey edd, check your e from last week (!)

Lawdy, I love MC's camera...

anyone able to tune in?

And of course all roads lead to Dr.Dot in the flesh but on the way, you might find a description of said silver bowl:
http://www.tecawards.org/frameset.html

anyone interested in hearing a good "mix" from England web radio
right now.. please go to..
http://whitelabelpromotions.com/smil/weefy.smil...
and I'll offer up a special shout for the Dandom
cheers
eLLe

please have a look at:

http://www.geocities.com/greenbanknrao/

MC

and the Boys, they keep shining the silver bowl these days, eh?

http://industryclick.com/magazinearticle.asp?magazineid=141&releaseid=6415&magazinearticleid=104999&SiteID=15

That Howard is the shit ain't he?!?

That's really cool man!

http://www.steelydan.com/2vnbuy.html

Webdrone endorses Howard. Hmm... it's a virtual lovefest, I tell ya.
New main page as well. Check it out!
Y'ALL!!!

B

All this talk of notes and half-steps, etc. Look at what the poor sitar players have to put up with...

http://chandrakantha.com/articles/indian_music/saptak_scale.html

Brings to mind a track on the Concert for Bangladesh album with George Harrison. Ravi Shankar and his little ensemble came out on stage and proceeded to play a variety of seemingly unrelated sounds on their instruments. This took about a minute and when they stopped the audience full of trippin' hippies broke out in thunderous applause. When it died down Ravi pulled the mic over and said "Thank you. We hope you enjoy the playing as much as you enjoyed the tuning".

What do Willie Nelson, The Oakridge Boys, and Steely Fan Band have in common? Not a damn thing, except that they have all performed on The Crazy Horse's stage and SFB will "Do It Again"..TONIGHT!
8pm this evening at the world famous Crazy Horse in Irvine,come out and hear a special EXTENDED set of music by SFB!
Bring this e-mail and get 2 FOR 1 admission at the door!

Our website hasn't been updated on performance dates so here is what's coming up:

July 4: Private VIP Party-Newport Beach, Ca.
July 10: 14 Below,Santa Monica-10pm
August 4:The Old Town Pub,Pasadena-9pm
August 11:Paladino's,Reseda-8pm(Also appearing: Led Zepagain AND Which One's Pink)
August 18: Hurricanes Bar And Grill, Huntington Beach-9pm

Thank You
Steely Fan Band

Edd....my head is hurting!

microtonally yours,

MC

back to birding....it's much simpler.

"That we a warm glow."

Denny....what were you thinking???

...and let's make it worse!

Use a pick to play a note on a guitar. The tension on the string increases until it overcomes the friction of the pick. At that point 2 things start happening: (1) The string starts to play at a certain frequency at the same time as (2) the tension is released as the vibration of the string becomes less and less. In other words, the pitch goes down over time. (I hear this all the time with drums!) And the harder you play, the higher the starting pitch.

That reminds me of a party at a relations house 15 years ago that got out of control. A middle-eastern gent was conjuring up *something* furiounsly in a metal mixing bowl. A nursing student roommate asked "what is that?" He replied "It's for my cold." I cracked up just having seen Crocodile Dundee...

fretless: super explanation. If you want to hear purer notes, let Mr. Chow tune your piano or Mr. Yamaha!!! Let the hair stand up...

Blaise: Of course! Down south of the border, Stanley is just a steamer. Just to touch greatness, it used to mean giving thanks. Now, it;s a way of fueling one's self-importance. From shining Lincoln's statue in Springfield, Illinois to licking the victory coke bowl at an SOB party. That reminds me of Richard Mulligan hysterically suicidal or better, dead way before Weekend at Bernie's. Too bad the middle 50% of the movie sucked...

Steely Dan battles against synth tunings, volume I:

http://www.steelydan.com/dennys.html

Howard

clas? ike? you are showing your age darling, but also a wonderful knowledge of american history - bravo!

Hey, this is right up my alley. Yes, listen to Howard and Edd- context is the key: the key is the context. There is another dimension of applied music [my favorite kind] important to note [!] regarding form, function, and physics. This is a long post- scroll now if you aren't interested in the distinction between "notation", "pitch", and harmonic environment.

First, there is a legal definition for musical tones. Look at any tuning fork and you'll see numbers as well as the letter for its musical designation. The most commonly used tuning fork is A=440hz, which, like Greenwhich Time, is an adopted standard guarded and defended by the American Federation of Musicians & British Standards. Don't mess with them, it could get ugly...

You can perform an oscilloscopic analysis of the vibrations- and, what will be displayed is, at best, "mostly A". The "pitch" will vary between 445.278 and 442.7219999999999hz, give or take a wiggle.

Inherent in the production of tone are variations due to the physics and mechanics of its source, and- as I'm getting at, its environment. If you hammer the tuning fork hard enough, the pitch will "wow and flutter" with a sine wave function of increasing frequency until it 'stabilizes' at 440hz. These things are meticulously constructed to minimize these variations- down to "insignificant" numbers, expressed as percentages of +/- .01 [way more than 'close enough for jazz']. Instruments and their parts are not- for good reasons which I'll skip.

The reason Donald would want to tweak synth/sampled voices to alter their pitch .0278% is to recreate the natural "stretch tuned" enivronment of an acoustic piano, which is not in perfect Federation Sanctioned Tune... it is in "tune" rather, with itself.
That is a horse of a different context.

Enharmonic notes [B, A-double sharp, C-flat] are all played with the same tuning fork! They are the same legally defined pitch. Now, repeat in your head all the "notation" stuff already eloquently expressed by Howard, Edd, et al. Howard explains that a violinist [or, smile, other fretless beings] will "play" them differently and I'm trying to tell you why: no natural instrument produces pure pitches without variation. Donald's sampled keyboards sounded STIFF- lifeless, unexpressive, sterile, cold, flat [as in sans depth, not 3 dimensional, 2D or not 2D, that was his question], though, these adjectives are mine- let's call them TOO perfect [which is an imperfection!].

An acoustic piano must be "stretch tuned" to compensate for the physics of a vibrating string, the harmonics produced, the acoustics of the cabinet [even the kind of wood used matters], variations in "velocity" [think of Rachmaninov and the sound of breaking strings], and the sounding of more than one note at a time! The art and science which is piano tuning is to maximize all variables simultaneously. Try juggling on a unicycle with a hula hoop going...

You could use an oscilloscopic tuner for every string and the piano might sound like shit! A good piano tuner uses combinations of single notes and chords, listening carefully to way the fundamental tones interfere within a harmonic environment; they unscientifically 'STRETCH" the standard hz-defined pitches by the qualities only their ears can discern. They ride it like the unicycle- artfully balancing, averaging, adjusting and re-calibrating; "in tune" will be a function of each instrument itself rather than "perfectly pitched" according to the rule book.

whew, indeed.

That said, you can appreciate the following distinction [I hope].

eLLe is correct! In western 12-tone music, they are the 'same note'. [we don't notate quarter tones but we sure play them. see below]

So is everone else! [well, except the assholes who try to vex her. Some people have shall we say stretched ideas of what constitutes fun? eLLe seems unvexable. Smart girl!]

When a violinist "humors" the notes, s/he is doing precisely the same thing that the piano tuner does... but, s/he is doing it to the orchestra! Yes! Legally, they are playing the WRONG note if they slip one of their little piggies +/- .0278% off the standard. According to our ears, they are playing very much the right note [right does not equal correct without context] and when they do this they may not be making a conscious effort. Think of riding a bicycle through a turn at a fairly good clip so that your bike is tilting into it... and you see a pothole... your brain goes through an extremely complex cascade of analytic compensatory calculations- you assess/react and re-react to that...

Finally, every one is correct in their context! Did I say that?

btw, eLLe, there is a B Sharp Jazz Quartet! I saw them at a Jazz Fest. They are these very young players playing homage to Jazz. Highly recommend.

Humor does belong in music [Frank Zappa was right]
Fretless

You fucks are really sumpthin

Blaise - you fuckhead - my nimber is 8 642 55 14 Can you remb tnat?

C

My namwe id Ingemar BREGAN!

do you know where your test is? hurry-hurry!

great song parody below - bowwty?

aus, check your e and critique away (i'm going to lose the parenthesis btw) - how did you like your card? - you must be more careful, my dear

ge, you still in?

A440 may be a standard, but the concept of stretch tuning would indicate that A55, A110, A220, A880, etc are not likely to be found on a "properly" (whatever that may mean) tuned instrument.

Donald has said he doesn't like synths because the tuning makes him feel like his head is being squeezed. I suspect that's from the simple multiply and divide algorithms in synths that DO force things like A110 or A880.

Edd is right! Howard is right too. I am fool beliving everything that is written.

Blaise - do you have a phone number?

Email atelje.lundkvist@swipnet.se

I am waiting!

C

Hoops - Great bodypainting link. Dr Dot is real hot stuff. It sure beats ASCII dildos. In that, you're absolutely right. And no insults yet on your guestbook. Of course, that's besides its very existence. In the end, it's always the idea of someone imposing a moral framework on the world, isn't it? Here, it's looser, less conservative. Well at least I thought so before I saw the porn link over there at your site.
Woo hoo

eLLe - It's all good, I said. Do you celebrate Canada Day wherever you are? Do you break out the maple syrup on this day and start weeping like a little baby? I know I do.

ole - an opossum is still an opossum in French. Is there a secret code to a third level layer of meaning behind this query? I look like a possum on that trading cards maybe... yeah

And the two lisas come back at the same time. hehe

Howard - It's not Melvin rolling almost every night, it's his brother Eldon. Si si, I swear.

Clas - I must confess I was stricken by a similar psychosomatic ailment, the same form of "agony" when looking forward to our scheduled duel in France. It's just that mine manifested itself much lower anatomically speaking. Judging from the evidence at hand, it's more like some acute form of "pelvic agony".
BTW, remember I was the FIRST card produced in the set there. A true collector's item, MINE is. hehe
Cut out and laminated, these are good for hours and hours of family fun and excitement spent re-enacting a typical GB morning. Try it. Print it out and distribute and don't delay!
y'all!!!
I'm back from veigh kay shun and you people talk about Glamour the whole time... no comment...
MU!!!
MU! The silver bowl is the championship trophy the player brings home to show off the locals. People would pay just to touch the trophy, never mind shine it. Made up of iron and/or brass,it usually shines behind a glass but this tradition of parading the trophy at parties and whatnot gives the local boys the opportunity. In the song, it's a timely indication that Hoops is successful, he's the champ at the time, he's on top of the world at the moment and has the damaged nostril vessels to prove it. It's a vignette of the pro sports and drugs universes colliding in the late seventies-early eighties. And one of my favorites bass grooves eva, enough said. Here, the parallel stories of Hoops McCann and Jive Miguel are grafted to the narrator's own experience. Like a movie highlight reel developping little sub-plots to better evoke the eseence of an era, a Zeitgeist.
Gina - I know you're out there. Gotcha!
(never fails)

Alrighty now, anyone I forgot?
Skully!!!
huh
later?

Edd, thank you for making me irrelevant in 25 words or less.

Howard, eLLe, Clas- And you know what else? B# doesn't always equal B#. It's all a matter of the temperament of the scale. Usually A440 is the anchor for any tuning, and octaves of A above and below are frequencies that are factors of 2 of 440, but there can be considerable variability in the way notes are spaced (tempered) in between. Conventions have sprung up (Bach thought he discovered a "well-tempered" one) but there's no universal solution to the problem. It has to do with things like what kind of overtones sound right, which can vary with musical style and the taste of the listener.

That's about the limit of my music physics knowledge--perhaps even over the limit. (Mu, I think that's your cue.) But the relevant point is that a C is not a C is not a C.

LisaG - I still have your "Peg Musings" email in my inbox and will someday create the Peg Vocal Chorus, v.LisaG in Cakewalk. But I haven't done it yet 'cause I've been too durn busy! Hope we can sing it soon!

Next posting: a modest proposal for a NE Corridor I-95 DanFest, in which I challenge LisaG to a MikeMcD-off.

...and to make matters worse, add the concept of stretch-tuning where octaves are increasingly sharp relative to the middle.

Soon you find out there really are no wrong notes, only alternatively correct ones.

I attend
Distress olfactions
Cellular byte counts
It's Friday's spleen
I drove a point home
Watchful for darkness while I scanned
Number one

AAMMMMMMMMM The ONE

Self-Enamoured confessions
No LA connection

Jolly good
I know your riddle game
Who despised feeble fools
That's my name you flamed

Jive Miguel
He's into Dr.Dot
E me at
midnight@mrChows
dotcom
Sexual scriblings
Just what big deal has been done
Dandom one?

sex oh mys!
And slight delirium
Digest delivery
By Hoops McKay
Brutal characters
Poured from the shadow where he yelled
Meaning well
He's a crowd pleasing man
On anons
He's courtyard Uberfan
Flashing his guest book
He's Uncle Jim again
When it's all over
We'll diss StAl from afar
We're a star

It's further protection
The "aa concession"
Loco bulls will send a shiver
Just to mind the slander role
"Living", "hardcore" takes its trolls

Medieval fun
Under the gun

All aboard
This celeb's carnival
Off to Bar boarders
Just for derides
Jim with his radar
Stalking the thread's moral feel
What's the deal
With his Orwellian strides?

eLLe - b# is not the same as C major. As Edd wrote, b# is a note, C major is a chord or key. Maybe you meant C natural - but this is still different to B#.

Edd, in his usual understated way, has already made most of the relevant points relating to this note naming business. To recap:

1. The choice of whether you write B# or C in a piece of music depends on the key of the piece.
2. B# and C are in fact different notes, but on even temperament instruments like the piano, you are forced to use the same pitch for both. A good violin player will actually play slightly different pitches for the two notes (it will actually sound better).

To expand a bit:

Whatever key you are in, you use each of the note names once and once only. You add sharps and flats etc to get the right sound. Everyone knows the C major scale : CDEFGABC - all the white notes of the piano, no sharps or flats.

G major scales is: GABCDEF#G

Although on the piano, F# and Gb use the same key, it would be *wrong* to write the Gmajor scale using Gb - you would have a Gb and a G natural in the same scale, and musicians would frown and start cursing you.

Similar thing with B# versus C - they are not interchangeable, but depend on the key or the context.

Similar issue with intervals like augmented (sharp) 4th versus diminished (flat) 5th. In C major, the 5th is G so the flat 5th is Gb. The 4th is F so the sharp 4th is F#. It would be wrong to swap the F# and Gb round even though they correspond to the same note on a piano (again, violin players play them differently)

It all sounds a bit weird at first, and on even temperament instruments you end up pressing the same key/fret anyway - but the concepts of the notes are different.

Phew.

Steveedan - the slow down functions are also available on Cool Edit. You can change tempo and keep pitch, keep tempo and change pitch or alter both. In some cases it can be useful, but you inevitably get processing artefacts appearing that can sometimes obscure the audio you were originally interested in.

I've actually used the *speed up* function a few times, believe it or not. Had problems with the very low and soft sounding bass on 2AN - speed it up - no problems!

LisaG - your comment about 7add6 chords has made my day! I couldn't agree more - there's a definite connection between mu chords and 7add6 chords. Mu chord harmony is "dissonance for beginners". 7add6 (or 9add6) is the advanced level. Both use a dissonant note added to a third, e.g:

C mu = C - DEG

the strong E-G third holds it all together, and the D-E dissonance livens it up.

C9add6 = C - EABbD

again, the C-E and Bb-D thirds hold it together, while the chilli-pepper A-Bb in the middle makes it "more interesting".

BTW - I think there's a general keyboard vs guitar split over 13th chords. Guitarists tend to consider only the 1st, 3rd, b7th and 13th as "essential". Keyboard players usually consider the 9th and 11th as also required. I don't think there's any "correct" definition.

Jazz players (I think) tend to go for more minimal voicings, so might drop the 9th and 11ths from 13th chords.

Howard

Steveedan wrote: "They are the same note. The notes sound the same. The difference would be based on the notation of the song. In some songs it would be more appropriate to have a B# while in other songs the C would be more appropriate. That's it."

On a fretless bass, violin or chello, for example, it's NOT the same thing.

WHen Fagen finnished his NIGHTFLY and was about to record the synths, he discovered that the synths did not had the ability to get tuned +0.002 (for example)

Theirfor the whole tech-crew with Nichols had to take a course at HP and learn how to tune the synths, I read it took 3 weeks.

C

yeah - Howard, I bought that Royal/AJA -soongbook early 80s. And then I've been playin by the book. Last nite Lena and I sat listening to that Crazy Cow bass-groove, and dammm you're right.

Lena are the steady partner, she has the real musical talent. Been singing in choires and shit.

Lisa G - yes isn't it cool, that POTQ-bridge? And playing the whole song, while singing, on an acoustic piano is pretty relaxing.

STEVEED - thanx - gonna look into it when it gets cooler. Amazing.

Listen to Edd:

"Actually, B# and C aren't the same note, but given the limited number of pitches most instruments can play, they're usually played using the same key/fret/etc."

For an violin, B# and C aren't the same note.

C

Actually, B# and C aren't the same note, but given the limited number of pitches most instruments can play, they're usually played using the same key/fret/etc.

Awww hell, the other half of my favorite comedic pairing passed away last night. Somewhere there's a pair of Grumpy Old Men once again having a pissing contest in a beat up boat. Rest in peace, Jack.

Actually, B# and C aren't the same note, but given the limited number of pitches most instruments can play, they're usually played using the same key/fret/etc.

GP melody is fairly typical SD. Dan melodies ain't ever overly good or original -- lots of them, stripped of the rich embellishments, sound like nursery rhymes. Most of the appeal, aside from unique lyrics, is from the novel chords and arrangements, meticulous care, and great soloing. And given equally dull melody lines, fast tempo always catchier than slow. For example, With A Gun or Charlie Freak vs. My Rival or GA, though I'll listen to the latter more because they're lyrically more cryptic and sonically richer.

For those birders out there....

At the Blackwater National Wildlife Refuge in Maryland there is a live cam perched next to an Osprey nest.

You can get to it by going to,

www.africam.com

Click on Osprey

Apparently the other day something was threatening the babies and the center was notified by the folks in Africa to go check it out. Mom and Dad Osprey were puffing themselves up to appear bigger....thats when the center got the call. Never did hear what it was.

Africam also has feed from many sites in Africa....with all types of animals.

How's everybody doing ?

Edd - I know you asked Howard to respond to your question about the difference between the note B# and C on the piano or guitar. They are the same note. The notes sound the same. The difference would be based on the notation of the song. In some songs it would be more appropriate to have a B# while in other songs the C would be more appropriate. That's it.

Now to Howard - In Black Cow, was it Victor Feldman's keyboard solo, not Joe Sample's? I'm sure you are right. I seem to make these mistakes alot. I also used to think that the guitarist in True Companion was Larry Carlton, but it was Steve Khan. So I thank you for the correction and I will try to be more careful in the future. I agree with your "jazz" triads for the intro and verse sections of Black Cow. I do not have a chord chart for the whole song, just for the "Victor Feldman" keyboard solo. To me there are many remarkable chords in the song, or should I say very cool piano voicings. Playing this song is like going to the candy store (or should I say stevie dan's record store?).

Did anyone see my chords for Pearl of the Quarter? I think that they are extremely accurate. And at the end of the phrase the progression goes ii - V - I (Dmin7 - G7 - C). I don't hear it as going from Dmin7 directly to C. If anyone missed my post and wants it let me know and I will email it to you.

Now I have a newsflash for those who have not heard of the software called "SlowGold". This software levels the playing field between the people with the great ears and the ones with the so-so ears for playing music by ear. This software can be downloaded at www.worldwidewoodshed.com. They offer a free demo version, the full version is $50.00. I wish that I had stock in this company, because after a few of you read this, you will at least rush to download the demo - I'm sure.

This software allows you to load in music - CDs, cassette tapes, MP3 files, Wav files, and more. Once loaded into SlowGold you can create loops of any duration (only 15 seconds in the demo version though). You can then "transform" the selected loop and slow down the music without changing its pitch (or key). You can also speed it up. You can also change the pitch. All of this is adjustable. Howard, Clas, Bway Steve, NYBill, and Lisa G I am thinking of you specifically.

If I had had this software when I was younger I would not be as good a "by ear" player as I am today, but, now that I have struggled and improved this ability over the years, a tool like this is a God-send. I was using it to hone the solo for Black Cow and in doing so, I learned that I had a few chord voicings wrong. I was very close and the typical listener probably wouldn't have known, but upon realizing my slight inaccuracy I immediately set up a couple of loops and nailed it in about 3 minutes. For the experienced and advanced "by ear" player, this tool will make learning tunes much more easy. It sort of feels like cheating.

You might be thinking "what good is a demo version that only allows you to slow down a 15 second segment of a song?" It makes for as compelling demo that's what good it is. Here is my case in point.

On the song from 2VN Gaslighting Abbie, there is that sax part that sounds a little incomprehensible. It is about 12 seconds long. I made a loop of this (when I only had the demo - I have since bought the full version and I am reaping huge benefits from it). I slowed it down to about 60 % of real time speed, was able to learn the part, practiced it at 60 %, then at 75 %, then at 100% (real time tempo), then to make sure that I could easily play it at 100%, I sped it up to 125% and played it at this quicker-than-real-life tempo. I had it down and it became easy to play.

I haven't played Gaslighting Abbie in a few months and I have since forgotten how to play this horn interlude part. The old me would have been very upset about this. But with SlowGold, it will only take me about 3 minutes to get it again. So it's no problem.

All musicians of all levels of proficiency should check this out. You can try it for free what do ya got to lose?

Tomorrow night the Steely Fan Band plays at the Crazy Horse in Irvine California at 8:30 PM. We're working on a web-cast kind of thing. Just something to look forward to.

Our set list is about 30 songs. I need to get some rest for tomorrow. Take care everyone.

Steveedan

Thanks for the return on Galmour Profession.
This is a really interesting cut. Very SD-like in many ways.

How others find this to be a poor offering is beyond me. It is musically rich and lyrically mystifying. The story it paints is so SD. It rings with the cynicism that is so much a part of Steely Dan.

-Paige

NMN--Hey! Stop playin' with my heart.

Howard--For the musically challenged (yrs truly), will you explain the difference between B# and C? Note or key? I am being serious, and I'm asking you because of your erudition and kindliness toward the subliterate.

Love all the GP stuff!!

Just finished "Lush Life," David Hajdu's magnificent bio of Billy Strayhorn (North Point, '96, out in paperback). It is very finely written and staggeringly researched--took him a decade to write. Now I have a new appreciation, nay, awe, at this embattled genius. The description of his first meeting with Duke Ellington is worth the price of admission. Please indulge me:

"Ellington, alone with his valet, lay on a reclining chair in an embroidered robe, getting his hair conked, eyes closed.
"'I introduced Billy, and we stood there,' said Greenlee. 'Duke didn't get up. He didn't even open his eyes. He just said, "Sit down at the piano, and let me hear what you can do."' Strayhorn lowered himself onto the bench with calibrated grace and turned toward Ellington, who was lying still. 'Mr. Ellington, this is the way you played this number in the show,' Strayhorn announced and began to perform.... 'The amazing thing was,' explained Greenlee, 'Billy played it exactly like Duke had just played it on stage. He copied him to perfection.' Ellington stayed silent and prone, though his hair work was over. 'Now, this is the way I would play it,' continued Strayhorn.....
"At the end of the number, Strayhorn turned to Ellington, now standing right behind him, glaring at the keyboard over his shoulders.... 'Wellll...' proceeded Ellington dramatically.... 'Can you do that again?' Brazenly (or naively) the twenty-three-year-old artist demonstrated both a crafty facility with his renowned elder's idiom and a spirited capacity to expand it through his own sensibility.... 'Billy was playing. Duke stood there behind him beaming, and he put his hands on his shoulders, like he wanted to feel Billy playing his song.'"

Whoa. Electrifying. Steely tie-ins: 1) the relationship of Ellington and Strayhorn was a unique, breathtaking synergy, not unlike that of Fagen and Becker. Also a misunderstood one--and I remember hearing a lot of misguided "So what good is Becker?" comments after "Nightfly." 2) By chance, I listened to "Can't Write Home About You" today, and that song could have been written about Billy Strayhorn. 3) "East St. Louis Toodle-oo."

Read the book. It's great.

Edd....yes, I do believe you're right! We saw some nice birds I've never seen here while we were in the mountains. Unfortunately, I didn't get any good pics of them.

ok folks, one more time....a composite shot of the farm with the GBT in the background along with a sky shot I took at the NRAO.

http://rockzz.com/jimdandy/GreenBankSciFi.html

Hmmmm... wouldn't C Major be a chord, not a note? Mayhaps C natural was meant?

While C and B# are typically played by pressing the same key on a piano, fret on a guitar, etc., wouldn't the proper name depend be relative to the key?

eLLe, your not actually that stupid, are you? Step aside,
Swami- she didn't get it. Anon- it's up to you, now.
Knock yourself out- but, see if you can post a little
something about Steely Dan every so often. Dueling
idiots. How droll.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
isn't that special...and your name would be.. ??
is it..Satan perhaps? :/

Howard? b# is C major darling.

Great trading cards! Are there only 3? That's all I could access on this dinosaur, anyway. Can I get a dominatrix card in the same spirit of THAT one of Blaisie?

Interesting discussion on "Glamour Profession", but I still hate the song. Too boring of a melody. "The Royal Scam" really needs the cheerful narcissism and uptempo beat (or whatever the proper musical term is!) of The Second Arrangement to balance it out.

Will e-mail you lp, I promise!

Aja

Can I be in the "babes gallery" - in a kilt ?

who can name that tune in six words?

playing KD for a moment, it was Reggis Lewis, not to mention Hank Gathers, who dropped dead on the court. Bias dropped in his dorm room after returning from Boston earlier in the day. it's a cliche by now, but like a lot of people, his sudden death stopped my likely progression up the controlled substances scale.

loving the Glamour Profession posts . . .

so when is the Outer Banks danfess?

From NRAO a few minutes ago:

"Mr. Talbott:

I am delighted that both you and your wife enjoyed your visit to Green Bank this week; it's heartening to know that you were so impressed with our facility. Thank you for forwarding your photo of the Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope. I'll be sure that it gets to the proper person here at NRAO.

Kind regards,

Charles Blue"

see, I told you there'd be "Byrds"! *hehehe*

H, Mike McD I think its October the 7th at the Apollo.
Ps: Not the one in Harlem??

teeehehehehehehheeeeeeeee Thomas!!!!!!!!

More birds, more birds!

a few pics from yesterday at NRAO in Green Bank, West Virginia

http://rockzz.com/jimdandy/GBT.html

http://rockzz.com/jimdandy/SunBeams.html

http://rockzz.com/jimdandy/SunBeams2.html

I know they're not birds, but I had a blast taking them. Hope you enjoy!

MC

Que?

Hey, my laryngitis is finally clearing up!

Clas-I love your POTQ chords! Lots of diminished beauties. Played it and it sounded so much better than my simple triads. That's what I get for playing in my drug-induced state last night.

Yes, Nyquil is over-the-counter. It makes me quite groggy the morning after.

Re: Black Cow, I think the bass notes that Howard refers to are the "melody" of the bass line. None of that is in reference to any other root but C. Sort of like an ornamental upper neighbor slide kinda thang. I would imagine this is best employed on a fretless, but I really don't speak guitar.
The 13 in a C13 is the "a," as in "bflat" is the 7th, "d" is the 9th, "f" is the 11th, and "a" is the 13th. As far as I've been taught, if the chord is written with the suffix 13, you need an 11th, too. I may be wrong. If I'm right then the chord would also have an "f." If you want the 9th and the 13th, but wish no 11th, then you would write it as a 6/9 chord.
Yes I think you are right about the Bb, but perhaps as Howard also points out, it does go back and forth to the triad. I usually play some assemblence of a C6/9. Actually we do this in Bb so I play a Bb6/9 with the occassional 7th added in for color.
I think the "7th/add 6" chords are kind of like "second generation" mu chords. Instead of clustering the 2nd and 3rd of the chord, these babies are 6ths and 7ths together. Although it would not follow the same intervallic relationship as the mu's use a whole step between 2nd and 3rd.

steviedan-thanks. It's good to be back. How's the teaching thing going for you?

NMN-Pedro who? Glad to hear that your leaving was a wee joke. Actually I think you were frightened when you heard that there is an exit exam from lp. Does that make her a proctologist of sorts?

Elle Gee

LisaN - that one was damn good on Aus! omg!

Bob, you came up to OC and didn't tell me? April's nephews are coming to LA next week from Indiana and we'll be making the trek down there ourselves. Idea: The El Rey Theater -- holds about 800.

eLLe, your not actually that stupid, are you? Step aside, Swami- she didn't get it. Anon- it's up to you, now. Knock yourself out- but, see if you can post a little something about Steely Dan every so often. Dueling idiots. How droll.

clas- it was great speaking to you as well. i will never get over how hilarious you can be in a language that is not your mothertongue.

steveedan- not another lisa! this threatens to be as unsettling as the whole debacle surrounding your handle. i will try to avoid confusion by becoming lisaN (miss jackson if you're nasty). glad to help w/ the mp3.

everyone please enjoy the newest trading card featuring mister aussie torres. now who wants to be next??

http://www.geocities.com/showbizkid/banyan_tree_babes3.html

blaise come home, we miss you...

Clas - yes, check it out. I'm pretty sure it starts on a high C and quickly moves up to D before dropping back to the low C.

On the piano demo, Donald plays a mixture of [high C to low C] and [high C to D to low C] in the left hand during the intro.

Howard

With almost completely mirrored walls.

Oh, and it was an incredibly tiny place, and we left an hour or so before midnight.

Bob - you're talking about Walt Disney and Donald Duck.

That make sense.

C

Don't mind Clas. He's from Barcelona.

Steveedan - I'd love to have Victor Feldmans solo. Email above.
And what the hell is Raelians?

Howard - hey man, I'm confused, are you saying the Black Cow-bass-groove is going up to D? Hell, I thought I had it all figured out now after my siesta, now I have to drag myself back home again!

StAl - I don't wanne work here anymore!

C

I was taken out to Mr. Chow's on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills for my birthday recently by my soulmate. A few minor celebs, like a host from Hard Copy, in there. They didn't seem to know my name. The Dumplings were good though. Not cheap -- $30 for the plate.

Aussie, lisa G, everyone:

That was a joke. Repeat, a joke. I've been here since '96 and I ain't going anywhere.

Above-mentioned, plus LadyB, YGK, Daddy and Kenny G--whirlwind NY visit this time (back 2 Boston today--rushing back to provide medical assistanc to Pedro, we got a pennant race to attend to) so no time for DOMC hi-jinks this time, but hope to do it soon....

Anon: what's wrong with b sharp? It's a real note, along with Fb, G##, E# and lots of others.

Dano - any info you can point me to on the Mike M gig?

Thoughts on Black Cow chords:

at the beginning of the verse, I hear a triad that moves up and down against a C bass. This may be part of the reason we are coming up with different C13 and C6 type chords.

I hear right hand playing [Bb D G] and [C E A] against the C bass. Sometimes the [C E A] has a top C on it as well. With the C bass, this gives C9 for first chord and C6 for second.

When I play it on the guitar I follow this moving triad pattern, though I hear the C9 (C - Bb D G) as the "overall" chord.

Only other chord of note is on "saw your face". I used to play Ebmaj7, but I now think it's Ebmaj6/7 - spelled Eb G C D (I'm sure we discussed this one a few months back).

Clas - for the bass I hear:

brief C, D, low C low C
brief G, A, low C, low C

I need to try your POTQ chords (Clas and Lisa) though they both seem to make sense pretty much. It's that classic steely trick of descending half-step bassline with triads in the right hand that shift ever so slightly (cf Deacon Blues and Peg intros).

Stevee - isn't it Victor Feldman that plays the keyboard solo on Black Cow? On the making of Aja I'm sure that's what D+W say - they also mention that the solo was done on the tracking date, not as an overdub.

Those moving 3-note clusters near the end are very nice. Would love to try what you have for this - can you mail it to me? Havn't sat down to work them out, but I'd lay bets that it's another favourite SD trick of mixing simple lines in 3rds with an extra note that adds half-step or whole step dissonances (usually at the bottom). Lots of examples of this (descending stuff over C bass in Aja when the guitar solo starts, I got the News riff, keyboard interlude on B. Sisters at end of the chorus). BTW - I sent you my chord voicings for that BSisters bit, did you have a chance to check them out?

Howard

RE: Donald and Walt

My soon to be 4 year old was dying to meet Donald.....so i finally agreed and we went up to Walt's place last week. Donald was cordial and itroduced us to most of his friends who were very cool, especialy Pluto and Minnie.

New Frontierland was a standout, as well as What a Beutiful World This Could Be After All.

Thank you's to those I must thank. Playing Steely Dan music is fun. Get it? I hope not. This place would sure get boring if everyone did.

My victory over the Science Fiction mouse is tainted as I can't get the sight of his little face out of my mind. Pretty out , huh?

lovebob

seriously, thanks!

Nyquil - is that cool? Or is it just an over-the-counter shit?

C

Lisa G - yeah, what did I say, am I unconcentrated or what? Okay, this is how I play the great bridge in Pearl of the Quarter.

left hand / right hand (Piano):

G# / B E

G / G Bb C# E

F# / A D

F / F G# B D

E / G C

Eb / Eb Gb A C

D / F A C D

C / E G C

Sounds good to me. Try it!

And for that C13 chord in Black Cow,

right hand voicing:

Bb G A C

(6 + 7 = 13 ?)

---

See you,

C

this time she was named "rosie" appropriately and i just had to call her rose darlin' before she sautered back into the crowd at saturday's outdoor gig. she had heard our version of "hey nineteen" and 2vn was playing on the p.a. as she walked up. apparently she has attended several sd shows and felt a strange "sense of belonging" as if among fellow alien abductees. i assured her that i "understood"...

mu, i went to b's on at least one occasion. i'm attempting to mentally reconstruct the route to venters. research continues...

mc, there may be no more contras to help me with the hostages. surveillance continues... as does polishing of the birdwatching specs... ole, a thumb goes up, a car goes by... hitchin' a ride...

jim#, mighty sharp fest reportin' chief.

lisa g, great to see you back.

angel, too.

after carefully weighing various tribute effectivenesses, i would either like to hear big band treatment by rob mcconnell, maria schneider, bob florence (aka the gil evans-ization of sd) or a "pickin' on steely dan" installment in the "pickin' on..." bluegrass tribute series. stranger things HAVE occurred ! their banjo/mando-tentacles have reached to the doobie brothers and james taylor. funny chords don't throw these cats. actually they are not the best in the genre and i'm sorta kidding, but what a novelty that would be. you know, in the vein of "101 strings do steely dan". these types of tributes might help me determine the five least...

another gb ? no time...

we just got back from a couple of days in the mountains of West Virginia....got to check out a couple of things I'd really been wanting to see. First was a chance to ride the Cass Scenic Railroad, an old coal fired steam locomotive up the mountain. Beautiful scenery with lots of history and abundant wildlife.

Second, and most important, was to scope out my (hopefully) place of future employment. Still need the five more years with Goodyear but then look out Green Bank, here we come! We spent a good deal of time at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Green Bank, West Virginia today. What a marvelous place and what an opportunity for me to combine so many of my hobbies and technical experience all in one job! Anyway, I took this pic of the big dish from over a mile away. The dish measures 100 meters by 110 meters so you could more than fit an (American) football field inside the diameter of the dish! It's really awe inspiring. I love the way the Sun was hitting the dish in this pic but the farm in the foreground wasn't lit as brightly.

http://rockzz.com/jimdandy/GBT.html

We talked to the administrative secretary after the tour and it looks good for getting a job here after I leave Goodyear. They actually need a lot of help right now but I need to get the time in with Goodyear to keep the all important medical benefits and have a nice pension to supplement whatever money we would make pursuing our "dream" jobs. Hopefully, there'll be more pics of our mini-vacation along with more bird and wildlife pics in the coming days.

it's good to be back home!

MC

Q: Donald Fagan and Walter Becker are the core members of the band..
A. Chicago
B.Yes
C.Steely Dan
D.Boston

hey Heftybag and DrBag weren't we just talking about this last night? Psychic TV!

BREAKING NEWS...!!!!!

clas is NOT allowed in Spain!

I repeat " clas is NOT allowed in Spain"

Back to you, Manolo, for the Sports wrap- up.

Reale Madrid 6

Betis 22

Hello, angel! Hope you're having a heavenly time in MA.

eLLe-yo, yo, girlie. Not often do people call me shorty, but I am the runt in my family. And I think you are, in fact, taller than me. By one inch maybe? Get that camera shooting for some more nature. That goes for you, too, Edd and MC. I missed seeing the raccoon.

Stevee-thanks for the info on Oscilloscope. Alright I'll scroll back and actually write it down so I don't embarrass myself at the Vitamin Shoppe tomorrow. Already spent 14 bucks on herbal tea remedies, there. Nothing in the works for me. I'm not that creative. I'm teaching and coaching all music at two summer camps. Can't get enough of those kiddies. And the band plays once every two weeks or so. We're adding more horn power tunes to our sets. More organ for me, yippee! Actually I was thinking about you the other night. My keyboard does not have weighted keys and frankly, I don't really like the action (action? what action?) of the keys on my ESQ. Someday, when I have the bucks, right after I by myself a nice portable digistudio (yeah, right), I think I'll invest in a controller with better action and buy a sound module. For now, I have to use the old equipment that was state of the art when I was a teenager.

Clas-I know I should drag out the CD, but if POTQ is in the key of C, then shouldn't the beginning chromatic descent in the bass start on flat six, or A flat? Not A sharp?

Works for me in lowest terms (that's without any sevenths):

Ab#5
And

C/G
if you

D/F#
hear from

Dm/F
my Lou-

C/E
ise, won't you

Cdim/Eb
tell her I

Dm
say he-

C
lo!

There's your half-step bassline. Beauty, ain't it?
Correct me if I'm out of my mind. Oh darnit I'll just listen to it.

LG

Greetings all from beautiful bug infested New England. The things my mind forgets over a 21 year period....

Yes, I did indeed manage to find the infamous dog catcher and her scurvy brother. Thanks LP and NMN for a fabulous lunch in a very historic part of Boston. LP, you have nothing to worry about, your mind was "with it" quite enough for me. I can just imagine what it would have been like, if she had had it all with her. Yes, NMN ended up without his money and could not pay the incredible bill we ran up. Glad that you managed to catch a later flight and so sorry our time was so short. Thanks again to you both. I go onward with good memories. Peace, love and Dan.

Snakehips: I did say hi for you. Sorry we missed picking you up on the trip over. :-)

Lisa G: I heard that you are back to posting on the GB and did manage to see one on my way in just now. Missing your wonderful sense of humor here. Hope your summer is starting off well.

Blaise: Heading your way next....

Hope all is well with everyone else. It has been hard without a computer these last few days. Talk about going cold turkey....

Later....

The Boston Rag....

YO YO Elley G!!! yo shorty!!!
Hey how you doing lady?
I have been taking lots of photies on the digi-cam lately, yes,
and have been getting some nice colours and fx's etc.
: ))) good to see yah!!!

this just in(as cyn would say)...

regis just posed the following question:

donald fagen and walter becker make up the core of which of the following bands?

a)steely dan
b)boston
c)chicago
d)yes

the contestant used her lifeline to ask her brother. her brother
was 60% sure the answer was a)steely dan.

the contestant took home $32,000.

and lost points with me.

Hi GE - I cannot take credit for the Len Bias fact. It was W1P who said that. And it makes a lot of sense. This kid gets a great pro contract, parties his last week (I think of college) and then collapses on the basketball court. Huge wake up call to all the partiers of America. I doubt that this event changed a lot of people's partying habits though.

A chord chart for Glamour Profession? I am working on that right now, but it is on the back burner while I play with the Steely Fan Band. I want to see the SFB play that one live, with and without me, so, it might be a while before I have this one together. I used to play this song all the time back a few years, but a song as challenging as that one causes the player to atrophy if it is not practiced all the time. True Companion is like that too. It's a use it or lose it kind of proposition.

To Lisa G - are you working on anything interesting? Let us know.

Howard - I was going to say that "Change of the Guard" from CBAT was a lesser liked song of mine, but then I thought of the guitar solo in that song with all of those Mu chords underneath the solo, and, well, here we go again. I am still thinking !!

Clas - beware the Raelians - you are their type. You might even be bumped up ahead of our Berklee Doctors Don and Walt. And beware of the leather spanker. Your sternum will thank you for it.

Lady Bayside - thanks for the additional info on Stealin' Dan out your way.

Lisa - thank you again for the mp3 file for our singer, whose name is Lisa also (also is not her last name ...).

That was great. The bounty of the GB is a cornucopia of treats of many delightful varieties. Take a bite before it bites you.

Steveedan (MFM for the SFB)

A couple of quasi-related thoughts on the Glamour Profession thread.

1)The lyric:

Local boys will spend a quarter
Just to shine the silver bowl

to me rings true of the approximate cost of an "8 Ball" of coke being $250.00 or "a quarter of a grand" in the late 70's early 80's. Shining perhaps related to that last finger wipe before putting the last bit on the upper gums.

2) to Marv Albert-I think SteveeDan was pointing out Len Bias in general as the wake up call to the drug abuse among basketball players at the time. Bias died in 1986, long after Gaucho came out but drug use was rampant in the NBA and college at the time and was the dirty little secret the league didn't want us to know. Obviously, Don and Walt had an idea.

Shout out to all the chatfreaks and see ya around.

Peace

GE

Can anyone post the chords to "Glamour Profession"? Now that would be a treat.....

Great discussion of Glamour Profession! Just a few comments to add.

1. I interpret "celluloid bikers" as the fashion "theme" for "Friday."

On the town
We dress for action
Celluloid bikers
Is Friday's theme

2. I don't know how to describe this musically, but just before the start of each verse, there's a one bar interlude with a slow roll on the snare. I always thought that this little intro into the verse sounded like the musical expression of snorting a line of coke -- a little pick me up before the next round of activities.

3. Mr. Chow is a chinese restaurant in L.A., so I think the dumplings are real food.

Let's do more of this!

Hi Lisa G - For immediated non-narcotic relief from cold symptoms I use a homeopathic product that you can get a Long's, Ralph's, Pavilions, etc. called OSCILLOCOCCINUM (oh-sillo-COX-enum). It runs around $12.00, has 6 viles of medicine in it. The contents are to be poured from the vial into your mouth and under your tongue (sublingally). It tastes like granulated sugar candy. Pour it under your tongue. Let it dissolve by itself, do not spread it around your mouth. Take no less than 3 dosages per cold, sometimes 6 or 9 dosages. Always take it in threes, and allow at least 6 hours between dosages.

This stuff really works. What it does (for me) is it stops the cold symptoms right where they are and moves toward the final symptoms and ends your cold. In other words, your cold won't be as severe, and you will get over it a lot quicker.

I always keep it in the house. This stuff is safe enough for small children, so don't worry. Just get off the GB and go get it. Every minute you wait, the cold hole you are digging will get deeper. oscillococcinum will stop the cold cold !!!

Trust me - Dr. Stevee(Kildare)Dan

'sup, sistuh? You bein' sharp? LOL!

(Ok, now I'm being obnoxious. Apologies, people.)

No seriously, eLLe, how've you been? Take anymore lovely nature shots?

Lisa G

Let the flames begin.

Clas, I meant "f" as the 11th (not sharp 11th, and not flat 13, either). I don't hear an 11th at all. The 13 would be flat anyways if the notes you are referring to is an "a," right? I don't hear the 11th so I wouldn't call it a 13th chord. I would simply name it C6. There may or may not be a 9th, in either case it is either C6 or C6/9. Geez, now I gotta go listen to it again.

Anyone have a favorite drug for head congestion and throat pain that is not NYQUIL? That stuff makes me so damn groggy, I've forgotten how to drive.

S c a r y.

LG

Hi Clas!

RE: Black Cow, my 2 pence

I like your progression, except for the C13. I'm assuming you mean flat13 (f). I hear a C6, plain and simple. Maybe I've got the bass on the mind.

Speaking of basements...Also agree with Howard, POTQ bass-line moves down in half-steps from A# (My God! There's an A #, too! You mean an ENHARMONIC spelling of Bb!! [Sorry about that, Clas. I couldn't resist an anon-flame moment. Hope you didn't mind.]) The gorgeous descent of the bass-line below the melody has always made that a pearl of a song for me.

Man, I love these guys.

As far as one song that I can hardly stand to hear...I can do without Barrytown. It has that special lack of grace: Bullwinkle complains while obnoxious synths and an annoying melody dance with a boring groove. The bridge is the best part of the song, and that's not saying much.

Hoo-boy. Up until today, like Stevee, I couldn't really think of one song that I disliked.

Anyway, some housekeeping.

cara mia-Susan Werner is a favorite of Daddy G and me. He played on a recital of hers at Temple U. He even admitted that he wanted to ask her out, but he felt he was a little young (18, at the time). I've met her--she is a goddess, and what a musician with a voice and talent that can't be matched. So gracious. Certain divas in the music biz could learn a thing or two from her about respecting your audience.

steviedan-Barrueco has a duets album out! This I gotta hear.

YGK-say it isn't so. News gets to me rather slowly. Sorry to hear about TD's break-up, but it can only mean bigger and better things ahead.

NMN-you can't go, too. Oh brother! Where are all the people going? You mean I leave for a few weeks and my favorites are all signing off? Well not all my favorites, but still. Alright, from this moment on, no one, I repeat, no one is allowed to leave this GB without a certified exit exam and a note from lp. We don't just hand out diplomas here to anyone.

You can check out any time you like, but...

Lisa G

Marv Albert,
Take care of your teeth, man. And there's a great lingerie sale at Macy's.

And we should care because......?

Yo Swami.. that would be "you're" ahem, not good at it.

Be Sharp?? no one got it.. not even the anonymous MORON..
Moron! jeeese and they tell me to lighten up!

WIP- I think it was life in Boston before Len Bias. That's who drafted him out of U Of Maryland. Not LA. Where's KD when you need him?

The tremors from the East affected live in the West

no silly aussie, he's just kidding - we just had a lovely lunch (though my mind is way too much in work, so angel, if i appeared out of it, i have had alot on my dog catchin mind lately, so i'm in wheatena world now) at the infamous Durgin Park and i covered for him, figuring we would have lunch again - it all evens out in the end - besides, he's on his way to new york right now, so your phone should be ringing too - when are you coming up here for lunch with us btw? - call me soon!

okay, have a nice night all.....

ge? malc?

Glamour profession contains one of the finest works of art ever performed on a 6 string Fodera bass by Anthony Jackson, a blinder of a guitar solo by steve Khan and the immortal ironic Donald Fagen "thats my claim to fame" line - what more do you guys want - harmomelodics ??

WIP- I think it was life in Boston before Len Bias. That's who drafted him out of U Of Maryland. Not LA. Where's KD when you need him?

enimen: Huh? You're leaving the GB forever?? Uhhhhhhhh. Let me know next time you're in the city brother...k?

NegativeGirlLisa: Was never able to open the attachment last night.

Floridavid: See comments above for neggie.

SpiderKingBeemer: What happened to you?

Aus

HEADS UP AUSSIE LURKERS!!!!!!!

Steely Dan Live at the Sony Studios NY finally to be shown on Aussie TV.

AUSTAR'S FOX 8 Wednesday 9.30pm

Anon: Listen, if your going to get you're rocks off by picking on eLLe's B-sharp, please try not to look like a bigger moron by failing to mention "you're" having been used in the wrong pretext. I mean, context. I mean, your worse, your so small. Try again?

eLLe- don't mention it.
I mean, don't respond to you're flamers. Your not good at it and it feeds there fires. Seek peace, my children.

enharmonically,
The Swami

Walter may have had a "diminished" role, but he does get in some tasty guitar licks on Glamour Profession. Thanks to all participants...

It is not necessarily true that only people and cutlery can "B Sharp". On the piano keyboard B# is a C. (Otherwise known as an "enharmonic" relationship.) In certain keys, even though the notation is a little bit cumbersome, B# does exist. By the way, I don't like it either, but the existance of B# (as well as E#, and all of the double sharps) does exist in music notation and I suppose it has its place. We haven't talked about the enharmonic flatted relationships. Let's not and say we did. Besides, I gotta fix Ab. I also gotta rent Ab.

Clas - Irvine is safely behind (or is that below) the Orange Curtain (what we Los Angelinos call all of the bergs located in Orange County). Yes it's south of Long Beach by about 30 miles Irvine is. Use the Diamond Lane, otherwise, the commute is a bitch on wheels to be sure.

Now about Black Cow - I will take a look at your chord treatment and offer up my suggestions. I worked on the Joe Sample solo in Black Cow over the weekend and am confident that I have nailed it note for note - even the 3-note chord cluster runs that go up and down the keyboard over the D Major section of the solo. If you want this, I have to email it to you. It is too precious to print here. Besides, the GB loses all of my formatting and I could never get it to look like it should here on the pale yellow page.

By the way, the Raelian Nation is definitely looking for you. If you want to avoid them, you and Howard gotta get out of Europe before it's too late.

And Howard - I admitted to being the Dan slut that I am because I really can't think of a song of theirs (since Can't Buy A Thrill) that I really don't like. I agree that certain ones just sound unbelievably great, but I am racking my brain and I could only come up with that moment in "My Rival" where Fagen sings "YES, I'll match him whim for whim now."

I will continue to try to find something that I don't like. I even like all of Walter's 11 Tracks of Whack and we all know that this CD is sketchy in parts. The genius that we all love about these guys just keeps shining (or is that screaming) through for us. I would have to go to some of the Sun Mountain stuff to find something I really don't like, but even there, the value to be had is that we can hear the diamond in the rough that is germinating. (Can a rough diamond germinate - probably not - Dr Mu?)

Alright, now I gotta get back to work - who needs a great deal on (and of) life insurance? I gotcha covered.

Stevee (affordable premiums) Dan

Living hard will take its toll. Life in LA before Len Bias.

Paige -- Weezer is awesome -- funny and rockin -- that's what its all about. Any chance of you making the drive on 8/11 to Paladino's in Tarzana to see The Steely Fan Band, Which One's Pink? and Led Zepagain? Imagine turning a W1P show into a Dan Fest, Left Coast edition! (angel, JWMalibu, other angelenos?)

Daaaaaaaaaaaaano -- I've never heard any of the English Floyd tributes (but by reputation, The Austrialian Pink Floyd is the best of the lot). If you don't have the Think Floyd web addy, here it is http://www.thinkfloyd.co.uk

Thinking about G3 on Friday -- anybody think this is a good idea?

the Stranger - GREAT, can't wait. Do we have to wear white tuxedos? The ladies too? I have no clothes, just bad sneakers, jeans and T-shirts.

And I want to go museums, going to check if Paris has any of those Joseph Turner watercolors. WOW!

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LISA! Nice talking to you, thanx for email, hilarious.

C

I am leaving the Guestbook forever.

I have neither an inherent nasty temperament, a thin skin, nor a painful personal entanglement with any other GB participant.

No, what I have is a free lunch from lp, obtained by rolling out the tired old I-guess-I-left-my-wallet-at-Souper-Salad-this-morning-when-I-was-getting-a-muffin excuse.

Ha! Can you believe it? Talk about a luckless pedestrian...

Value obtained from the GB by this ruse: approx. USD 15.00.

I'm a lucky winner, and I'm taking my winnings to NY, where Aussie has promised to place me in the care of Swiss bankers and concubines sworn to secrecy and clad only in dollar bills.

I will carry the guilt I carry from the experience as long as I live. But, fortunately, I managed to have a lovely lunch at pre-Cambrian Boston landmark Durgin Park with angel and lp before I violated their naive trust.

Value of this delightful social tryst: priceless.

Thank you, ladies. And forgive me.

thanks fretless for the Don's songwriting quote

interesting that they never tried to compete with Lennon/McCartney

enjoyed the Glamour Profession treaty too

Clas - there are plenty of Betty's you can spend a birthday in paris or spain with, but I'm not one of them

b sharp? What a complete moron!

Clas,
Great, I was absolutely planning to hit some jazz clubs in Paris.

you're too sexy for C-major
too sexy for D-minor
too sexy for B-Sharp
too sexy
and you do you're little walk on the cat walk.
doh

Paige/Mu/ Oleander/et al: 15 minutes of fame by proxy? Glamorously great posts, lovely exchange. Sentiments expressed reminded me so much of an interview w/DF from a somewhat esoteric mag. I thought it unlikely that everyone who reads these pages might have come across it, so- I offer!

from Guitar for the Practicing Musician

"I don't think Walter and I were songwriters in the traditional sense, neither the Tin Pan Alley/Broadway variety nor the "staffer" type of the 50s and 60s. An attentive listening to our early attempts at normal genre-writing will certainly bear me out. It soon became more interesting to exploit and subvert traditional elements of popular songwriting and to combine this material with the jazz-based music we had grown up with. In college, we were both intruiged by certain humorists of the late 50s and early 60s, such as John Barth, Joseph Heller, Kurt Vonnegut, Thomas Berger, Terry Southern, and Bruce Jay Friedman. (I've since cooled a lot on these writers). Walter read a couple of novels by Thomas Pynchon. We both thought the predicament in which popular music found itself in the middle 60s rather amusing too, and we tried to wring some humor out of the whole mess. We mixed TV-style commercial-arranging cliches with Mersey beats, assigned nasty sounding heavy amplified guitars to play Ravel-like chords, etc. The fairly standardized rock instrumentation of the original group added to the schizy effects. We never tried to compete with the fine songwriters of the era [Goffin & King, Lennon & McCartney]. We were after a theatrical effect, the friction produced by the mix of music and the irony of the lyrics."

How eloquently succint! Can you hear Donald's voice as you read- that, honey dripped mellifluous tone and, important to note:
I believe this is as straight an answer as any journalist has ever gotten out of the man!

D&W must take turns being comedian/jazzbo- think of Lenny Bruce bombing with an audience but leaving completely satisfied because the guys in the band were hysterical. Aspiring music journalists take note: try to split them up and interview them apart... then mix. Repeat as needed.

Glamorous, wonderful friction, indeed.

Fretless

Paris for my birthday - ah, i can dream...

Dano - i think it might be illegal or something to mention Kiss on this gb - lol

panic in detroit

sh

Last try:

C13 - Gm7-5/A - Am7/D

E7-10 Ebmaj etc

C

Do YOU wanna spend you birthday in Spa... no, your birthday in Paris?

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Howard, allow me to disagree on Black Cow, this is how I play it

C13
In the corner of my eye I saw you in Rudy's, you were very high

Gm7-5/A C/D E7#9 Ebmaj9
You were high it was a crying disgrace (They saw your face)

C13
On the counter by your keys was a book of numbers and your remedies

Gm7-5/A C/D E7#9
One of these surely will screen out the sorrow

Ebmaj9 D/E
But where are you tomorrow

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The bassline is pretty cool on the C13 chord: (Touch B) C octava down CC - (touch G#)A - CC

C

sh , wasnt that Kiss who where there.
Regards Dano.

Name: Clas
@ work

Date: Tuesday, June 26, 19101 at 09:03:23
Comments:

CONFESSIONS part VII

With tears in my eyes and and the gun in my hand, I've decided not to kill Blaise in Paris. My piece is loaded with blanks. And my Sternum Hurts,unendurable.

Duel cancelled.

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SunnySam - do you want to spend your birthday in Paris?

Skully?

eLLe or Cyn? We can do the Can-Can-schock at Crazy Horse. For the safety of it, Cyn in the middle.

C

dano - michael m. in detroit next weekend with dave coz. think i'll check it out.

lp - tell angel i said hi at lunch

he's a crowd pleasin' man...

Here's an interesting site for any of the Fender Strat or Tele players out there. A customer in the store told me about this yesterday.

www.kinman.com

And they're noiseless.

i think Glamour Profession prophesizes (sp) the whole over the top consumption of the 80's - drugs, hollywood, hangin with professional sports stars, car phones (barely heard of when the song was written), carribean trips just for the hell of it - i love the way the tune carries me down hollywood boulevard in my saab with the top down (i wish, i was in college in the early 80's) some guy in the back fumbling with a mirror, a boy toy in the paaenger seat on the phone with his agent, and a barbie doll trying to put make-up on in the back seat - great tune, great analysis below by all - i firmly believe that release is underrated because the critics egged and tried to compare it to aja, which is stupid to me because it was a totally different theme than aja, they were out to "do" something different with gaucho, but whatever, these things happen

dano, i'm in the house, just not in chat, no night meetings of late - but i'm getting a pc soon for home, yeah!

elle, tell me about it, but that's another story....

aja, thanks for poppin in, e me when you can

lunch with nmn and angel today at an undisclosed location - aus, did you catch the shuttle to join us?

and a happy tuesday to you, pooh.....

Back on track , and the pictures of Blaze and Clas should be on the mantlepiece to keep the kids away from the fire??
Excellent stuff.

WIP , Dan Have you ever seen "Think Floyd" they are playing here soon and may leg it along to see them?? any info

Angel , Lovely week here lots of sunshine and happy smiling people, sound as a bell.

Lp , Where you been womencub , missed you in chat , my chat has gone belly up??

Chere , You ok out there??

Howard , Michael McDonald playing Oxford in October ?? you up for a couple of beers and a shifty look??

Hutch , You still on a session of the old beer mate??

TWM , Great money notes , sent it to a few fenians and still waiting for the shite to hit the fan , superb mate??
We play Crotia in September , maybe a few heavies mate??

Highlight of the week , Tony singing Dirty Work on the Sopranos
Well worth the wait??

Gina , KD keep in touch , dont go legging it now.

t , " sup big man , been quiet on the E-Mail front but will blast you next week when work settles down a wee bit??

Hey America , Anyone seen Shrek yet going with the dustbin lid next week , surely cant beat Toy Story or is it Hyped top much??

Gotta go , and keep bartenders in a job.
All the best Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaano

Paige - thanks for starting the Glamour Profession discourse

enjoyed Ole's and Mu's comments

Dr Mu suggests three separate storylines in this one,
certainly intertwined in the underbelly of LA and each enhanced in significance by their respective association

kind of like the way seedy characters revolve around a whole in a movie like Magnolia or Pulp Fiction

Another interesting thing about the song is the musical accompaniment. An upbeat jazzy score with drawn out horns that seem to accentuate the tension of the moment and the inevitable spiral downward. like the characters themselves it has a slick facade but hollow core, and sounds like it could self destruct at any moment.

greek tragedy with an 80's twist

wt

heart like ice

LisaG - good to see you back! Hope you kick off that cold and are back posting again soon.

Clas - OK, bass line agreed. It's a nice progression that one.

Stevieedan - come on now, you can't get away with "I don't have any least fave Dan songs". You can't like all their stuff equally, you must have some that you enjoy listening to more than others? That's not to say that those you listen to less often are "bad", just not as funky/sexy/thrilling as others. Confess! (or you'll be poked with soft cushions).

(... yes, the stuffing *will* all be in the corner)

On the Deacon Blues thread, I have to admit it's not one of my all time faves. It's not a bad song, but there are several others on Aja that I'd rather hear - either as CD versions or live.

It may be that because DB gets played live so often, I've tired a little of it. At the SD gig in Birmingham last year I'd have happily swapped Deacon Blues for Aja, Royal Scam, Glamour Profession, Babylon Sisters ...

Howard

What's the other stuff you're playing over there? That Joe di Maggio-shit?

C

W Becker said in some interview; -We imagined this famous basket-player.

This is my take on GP, it's pretty obvious:

G L A M O U R P R O F E S S I O N

"6:05 outside the stadium
Special delivery for Hoops McCann
Brut and Charisma poured from the shadow where he stood
Looking good he's a crowd pleasing man
One on one He's schoolyard superman
Crashing the backboard he's Jungle Jim again
When it's all over we'll make some calls from my car, we're a star"

That one speaks for itself. Okay?

"It's a glamour profession
The L.A. concession
Local boys will spend a quarter
Just to shine the silver bowl
Living hard will take its toll"

A quarter: that's a quarter of an hour. The silverbowl is the spoon you heat up the stuff in.

And "toll"? Living hard WILL take its tool, and besides, it's rhyming with "bowl".

"Illegal fun
Under the sun"

Speaks for itself. Or do I have to paint you a picture? If so is, go to www.ateljelundkvist.se/galleri, and wait there.

"All aboard The Carib Cannibal
Off to Barbados just for the ride
Jock with his radar stalking the dread moray eel
At the wheel with his Eurasian bride
On the town we dress for action
Celluloid bikers is Friday's theme
I drove the Chrysler
Watched from the darkness while they danced
I'm the one"

Radar: Jocks nose. Dread Moray Eel: a line of coke. Eurasian bride; that's probably Aja (the cover-model).

"Hollywood I know your middle name
Who inspires your fabled fools that's my claim to fame"

Middle name: cocaine, that's what inspired our fabled fools.

"Jive Miguel he's in from Bogota
Meet me at midnight at Mr. Chow
Szechuan dumplings after the deal has been done
I'm the one"

Szechuan dumplings: spicy dumplings, small airplane dumps narcotics in waterproof bags, near the shore, it's direct from Bogota.

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Sorry Steveedan, can't make it. Next summer? And where's Irvine? South of Long Beach?

C mayor

PS/ Lisa, didn't I say I had a lot of work to do?

Enimen - ÓWe have many great years left of good DanÓ. I hope you're right, self I am dwelling on doubts, my Sternum hurts this morning. I'm not sure if I'll make through the day.

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the Stranger - we can disagree on Aja, I like the Gadd-drums though (but that doesn't make a song). And jazz, well, let's go listen to some great jazz in Paris. Convince me!

And I can stretch it saying -I do not like what the Israel Gov are DOING. And for people, kamikaze-palestines, well, I don't like it, it's discusting, it's awful, but that is what happens when you are under the foot of an arrogant self-righteous country. And saying "what would you like it if happened in Stockholm..." well, that's irrelevant.

Or maybe it's not, it's not HAPPENING here in Stockholm, and why is that?

Israel is a jewish state, but I don't think that's the primary thing. There will always be kamikaze-bombers, if the pressure and desperation is going too far.

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Howard - yes, these ARE my bassnotes, I said, use ONLY the E-D-G-B strings. Then you get the line from the E-string:

A# - G - F# - F - E - up to D# - D and back to C.

That was just my cheap little trick playing the E/G# - G dim/ - D/F# - F dim - C/E - D# dim - Dm7 - C in an easy way for a lousy guitar player :)

And I might add that my definition of a dim-chord is; minor terses only. So in reality there's only 3 dim-chords:

F - G# - B - D

F# - A - C - D#

G - Bb - Db - E

then we come back to:

G# - B - D - F

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C you

To the Glamour Profession discussion group - great stuff !!!

I like it when this happens on the GB. I learned some new stuff from some of what was said about Glam Prof, and it reinforced the other stuff that I always thought. This song totally Pegs LA at that time to the wall.

The trading cards of Blaise and Clas were hysterical. So that's what you big galoots look like. Shit! There goes another 2 camera lenses - ha ha.

Lisa G. - nice to see you up and around. I've responded to your email and will talk to you soon.

My 5 least favorite Dan tunes? I'm sorry, but I don't have any. I suppose that makes me a real Dan slut. How 'bout some questionable moments in certain songs? In "My Rival" the line: "Yes. I'll match him whim for whim now." The "Yes" sounds really lame, don cha think? Everybody do it now, ready, 1 - 2 - 3 : "YES!" See what I mean?

Well, I'm sitting here racking my brain for some other moments, but I just can't think of any that I really don't like. How about Elton John's "Island Girl"? That's a lame one, ain't it?

It's the 3 day countdown to (ecstasy and) the Steely Fan Band's triumphant return to Irvine's famous Crazy Horse Steakhouse. (I hear they have a mean pancake breakfast Pat.) Beautiful brand new club, huge stage, huge dance floor, did I mention the bar is stocked? Oh yeah, and a 50,000 Watt sound system. And a sound man who actually knows how to use it. This Thursday night. Dammit Clas, find another airline, say FUCK and get your arse over to Irvine. I'm gonna have Howard kidnap you and bring you if the Raelians don't get to you and your essence first. Mr. Sticks of the SFB has posted his generous "toofer" coupon, so, come on down, or up, or from Mizar-5 for all I care. (Actually Mizar-253 has better food than that stinky snail infested Cafe Escargot.)

If we're lucky, Jerome Aniton (our van driver) will announce us because "if it's goods to ya, it's gots to be goods fo ya!" -- Mr. Steely Fan Band-Whatever.

Whoops! Gotta go now, the nice young men in their clean white coats have come to fit me for my "special" jacket.

Steveedan (MFM for the SFB)

Fretless--So much misunderstanding at the touch of a shift key.

||||||--GREAT frames! Look well on you.

NMN--There is a series of Steely wormholes between here and reality, and no one has any control whatsoever over when they get sucked in, or out.

DStm--Where have you been? I've missed you.

Hank--Pencil you in?? You're down with a Sharpie, man!

Howard--Well put. The Duo have stated clearly that the lyrics are secondary to the music. But when has anyone so breathtakingly joined such complex and intriguing lyrics to such sublime music? To wit.

Paige--Let's go get muellered, or alternatively, bummed. I'll go knock back a few Serzone with you anytime. I'm with Mu. Great series of vignettes, fast cuts between the corrupt basketball star deep into the blow, the nightworld, the Barbados lark, the Szechuan score.... You're right. They're perverse, the Dan. They have our psyches hooked. There's that pulverizing disco beat to pummel us into sonic submission. From the outset, you see and smell this beautiful, graceful, extremely rich, very young man who has ascended to sudden power in the bizarre, rarefied world of American pro sports (first round draft pick out of high school?). The narrator, leech parvenu, has like no boundaries; since he's the supplier, he thinks he's in the spotlight. Yet he watches from the darkness.... Both a pitiful attempt to be the star he can't be and a distorted sense of being the dark puppetmaster. The thing reeks with double entendres. The silver bowl could of course be a coke spoon, but could be one of the glaring ranks of trophies in Hoops' domain. So you see images of local gangsta sycophants trying to get a piece of the action in disturbing juxtaposition with adoring kids who would do anything just to shine their hero's trophies. Lots of blinding light and ambiguous darkness in this song. Cruising the Caribbean just for fun; conspicuous consumption of the veneer of experience. That little "tink" in the percussion sounds like the touch of champagne flutes raised in self-congratulation. Then the night life: James Dean, Marlon Brando, the emblematic animus biker badass is our persona of the evening. Also a well-established gay and S&M fetish theme, so lots of flavors of darkness and threat. More illicit if not illegal fun, and tomorrow, we'll be someone else. The LA concession--it's this guy's territory, his turf, a pretty plum sales district. Only the best. Only one who knows the secret heart of Hollywood, its middle name, which he won't say because to keep it secret is his power, can handle it. And in turn it's guys like him, the fast, the loose, the dangerous, who inspire Hollywood to create roles from "Man With The Golden Arm" to "Blow." It's ALL a glamour profession.

There are three other songs in which Mr. Becker is not. The ghost in the machine.

The whole album is so bleak, such a set piece of so many LA-manifest-destiny themes. And so funny, and so luscious. Starts out heading to the end of nowhere, and ends up in apocalypse.

I made it. Several weeks of postings, but I'm back baby!

Just in time for some changes in the landscape. I see we've lost KD and Gina. Yeesh. They've been here as long as I can remember. I'm coming on my first anniversary I think, too. And Negative Girl has changed back to lisa. Guess I'll have to always remember the G in my handle.

Shout out to all! Will post again. At the moment, I've got this miserable cold (didn't I just have one a few weeks ago?) and a nasty case of laryngitis. Nyquil is not helping. Gotta sleep.

Nite,

Lisa G

Hollywood, I know your middle name.What is this? What is the middle name?

DRUGS. The inspiration or rather replacement for inspiration for most 80s movies including everything from St. Elmo's Fire to Who's That Girl to Holloween XIV or whatever...

Cool. We get both. Any cut and paste that I'm welcome to...

forbid, town, posh,
and probably some others

Paige: I encourage you to take a walkabout Oleander's boss site for thoughts and spasms about this and other Dan songs:

http://home.earthlink.net/~oleander1/glamourprofession.htm

"I know all about the drug references. They are obvious and contradict the ñcrypticî nature of the song." You are certainly on the right track.

The song is essentially a microcosm of the whole album. A Broadway-like pop-jazz production of Seven vignettes describing Los Angeles decadence and delusion. Here, appearances, style, and surface are everything - substance means ziltch. Even the spelling - the English as opposed to American - supposes the faux haute elegance that say a Joe Queenan would skewer. Like getting a hot towel after a meal at the Olive Garden or God forgid Red Lobster. Inflated self-promotion, even probably by the narrator permeate the song (Oleander astutely picked up on this. Within Glamour Profession we have three scenes: the young basketball star, the jetsetters out on the tow, and the deal done in plain view at a pos restaurant, instead of an alley. The star is blow - cocaine, which exploded to match the fat-pace LA lifestyle of the early 90s. Linking the baskeball pro with the jetsetters was pure genius.

What is the ñsilver bowl?î And why would the ñboysî pay a quarter to ñshine: it? A drug reference. I think that's from opium references from the 19th Century. However, I missed the 60s, not to mention the 70s and 80s, and was way, way too busy in the 90s - HELP!

What is the L.A. ñconcession?î Selling of the coke and other recreational pharmaceuticals from the obscenely self-important to the vapidly self-important.

What is the ñcelluloid bikers?î Linking the Hollywood with the burgeoning biking, marathoning, triathleting, Adonis-like health scene. Show biz kids making movies of themselves...

ñItÍs FridayÍs theme.î What theme? Theme for a trendy Disco meat market or just plain happenin' place

ñHollywood, I know your middle name.î What is this? What is the middle name?

Why is it that Walter has nothing to do with this song?
Wlater's role throughtout the album was diminshed because of his own "toasty" condition with heroin, and attmepting to violate the laws of physics with an oncoming vehicle.

The title: Glamour Professionƒrich athlete? Naw, dealing drugs. Drugs drove the film, sports, and lifestyles of the rich and famous scene of the 1980. How prophetic this song was as to the self-importance and greed of the 80s and 90s...and they said the 70s were the "me" decade...

What is the L.A. Òconcession?Ó
Concession.. like "indulgence" or "allowance" ..do you ever watch A.J. Benza on E! on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.. or The Flipside of Hollywood.. alot of dark and dreary stories about actors and meeting their mysterious demise..having to do with drugs, alcohol sex and plain old debauchery. Some places are even said to be haunted like the Comedy Store for one.

What is the Òcelluloid bikers?Ó
Is this a reference to the ÒWild Ones?Ó
I think so..
ÒItÕs FridayÕs theme.Ó What theme?
any theme.. any reason..

ÒHollywood, I know your middle name.Ó What is this? What is
the middle name?
The middle name is WOOD. Hollywood was originally HollywoodLand.

Why is it that Walter has nothing to do with this song?
Maybe it gives him "wood"?

I see San Francisco, for reasons I canÕt explain.
um.. that would probably be too much wood around there(j/k)

The title: Glamour ProfessionÉrich athlete?
movie stars, me thinks

Damn Steely Dan. They have no right to be so complex in the
face of such superficiality. ItÕs a contradiction. The joke is on us.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
totally!

How did I do Blaise?
eLLe

everyone is so happy..and it's Monday!?
Oddness and Oddities con't.

lp- HE skips over songs YOU like??? OH deary me!
That is a BIG no-no. Suggesting that you nip that in the bud
well, by now it's a bloddy branch! cut it down.
or- take the bull by the horns
or- teach a dog new tricks
now this is just not allowed!!
it's a MYTH that men get to control the controls
A MYTH
A FABLE
( or add any outtakes you like from Grumpy Old Men and/or Grumpier Old Men)
open your eyes before it's too late lp!!
; )

I fear the monkey in your soul

sorry fellows.

So you know, I only post when IÕm drunk or depressed. Your choice.
Just listened to ÒHash PipeÓ from WeezerÕs new CD. Someone tell me that Rivers Cuomo isnÕt an incredibly talented writer. It drives! Forgoes any intellectual attemptÉit simply doesnÕt matterÉitÕs rock Ôn roll. Reminds me of School of Fish Òone hit wonderÓ called ÒThree Strange Days.Ó

More to the pointÉjust repurchased ÒGaucho.Ó Heard the entire CD for the first time in years. So, whatÕs this crap about ÔGlamour ProfessionÓ being one of the most forgettable offerings by SD. Bullshit! This song is cryptic if not totally mystifying. I wonÕt even spend the time to refer to its musical quality. Close to the perfection we appreciated with Aja. ItÕs smooth, it drives, never misses a beat.

Lyrically, the questions must be obvious. I know, theyÕve been answered before by those more knowledgeable than me. If they are true Dan Fans, they will encourage the questions that have been answered a million times before. If not, they are pretentious and boring.

OkayÉ
What is the Òsilver bowl?Ó And why would the ÒboysÓ pay a quarter to Òshine: it?

I know all about the drug references. They are obvious and contradict the ÒcrypticÓ nature of the song.

YesÉbasketballÉyet in a way that is not so obvious. Is this urban. The cell phone from the car.

What is the L.A. Òconcession?Ó

What is the Òcelluloid bikers?Ó
Is this a reference to the ÒWild Ones?Ó
ÒItÕs FridayÕs theme.Ó What theme?

ÒHollywood, I know your middle name.Ó What is this? What is the middle name?

Why is it that Walter has nothing to do with this song?

I see San Francisco, for reasons I canÕt explain.

The title: Glamour ProfessionÉrich athlete?

Damn Steely Dan. They have no right to be so complex in the face of such superficiality. ItÕs a contradiction. The joke is on us.

They should have slept through English Lit class at Bard.

-Paige

NegativeGirl: Sorry for mix-up. Honest oversight. The attachments to my latest e-blast to you (cheque it now) should more than make up for it.

Yours,

Aus

Still having a long weekend? Did you survive it? Is it Miller time yet?

pizza

t

aussie- wrong lisa. it's negativeG, not lisa g. i guess all that fresh air went to your head :)

e-me? lisalove@pinehurst.net

your trading card is poised for a midnight release...

Aja: Boar bristle brush is here. On the nightstand. And ready to be utilised.... :0)

LisaG: Love the trading cards....nice touch. Warmest regards to DaddyG....and cheque your email.

LadyBaySide: Sorry we missed you for sushi...dammit! Rain cheque for sure....

Oleander: I owe you some pics...will be sent electronically this week.

Arizona was spectacular. Babes and I hiked Camelback Mountain...utterly breathtaking..the views were what hawks might spy themselves...and fairly demanding (technical climbing plus)...the weather was well above 100 and unusually humid for this time of year. Ran into Senator John McCain in the lobby of our resort; engaged him and what a guy...warm and friendly as they come--just like every other Arizonian we met on our short weekend jaunt...I look like I visited the sun.

Everybody: Have a GREAT week!!!

Aus

GB trading cards? I'm still ship's Dominatrix! Do one of me in spiky black latex and thigh high boots. Aus sweetie, WHERE is my boar bristle brush?

Aja

Clas,
You think Aja is shit? Come on. That's the Holy Grail. What Steely Dan music do you like? I am still trying to figure out why we get along when you dislike jazz, Aja and Israel. But somehow we do.

Question: Ever been to a live Dan concert? It's impossible not to love Deacon Blues in concert. At least not at the 2 concerts I attended. It was oh so evident that they put tremendous work into arranging and rehearsing truly creative stuff that can be appreciated on many levels. These guys aren't screwing around. They're not some foul-smelling heavy metal meth junkies who think they're deep because they can rhyme fuck with suck.

But it's quite possible not to love Palestinians who attach bombs to themselves, stand next to a bunch of teenage girls and set the bomb off. Let them try that out in Stockholm and see what you think about them.

Guestbook trading cards. I love it!

Did you say something?

What's the Cuban national anthem?
"Row, Row, Row Your Boat"

Where does an Irish family go on vacation?
A different bar.

Did you hear about the Chinese couple that had a retarded baby?
They named him "Sum Ting Wong."

What would you call it when an Italian has one arm shorter than the other?
A speech impediment.

What does it mean when the flag at the Post Office is flying at half mast?
They're hiring.

Why aren't there any Puerto Ricans on Star Trek?
Because they're not going to work in the future either.

What do you call an Alabama farmer with a sheep under each arm?
A pimp.

Why do drivers education classes in Redneck schools use the car
only on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays?
Because on Tuesday and Thursday, the Sex Ed class uses it.

What's the difference between a southern zoo and a northern zoo?
A southern zoo has a description of the animal on the
front of the cage, along with a recipe.

How do you get a sweet little 80-year-old lady to say the F word?
Get another sweet little 80-year-old lady to yell *BINGO*!

What's the difference between a northern fairytale and a southern
fairytale?
A northern fairytale begins "Once upon a time..."
A southern fairytale begins 'Y'all ain't gonna believe this * ..."

Times have changed. Years ago.....When 100 white men chased 1 black
man we called it the Ku Klux Klan.
Today they call it the PGA TOUR.

z, thanks for candor on a sore subject. Donald's voice is not what it used to be. Check out the power and control he had in early '70s live performance, and listen to some of the wobbly '90s-'00s (Plush included) in contrast.

But it's not linear decay. He DEFINITELY gets better with practice. I was a little worried what I'd hear on the 2000 tour after Plush, and he showed a lot of vocal strength.

Moreover: Agreed on the toll time usually takes. You cited good examples of that. Sorry, Frank could not sing at the end.

"Usually" is the operative word, however. I saw Mel Torme many times well into his late '60s and he was at top form until the stroke took him down.

Fortunately, Steely Dan does not depend on virtuouso pipes, and it never did. Donald is a great singer with an average instrument. We have many years left of good Dan.

Thank You all very much for coming out this past weekend to the shows! We hope you heard your favorite tunes and there's more to come!
By popular demand....SFB will return to showcase the world famous Crazy Horse Steakhouse at the Irvine Spectrum Center.
THIS THURSDAY NIGHT, JUNE 28-8pm!
Bring this e-mail and get 2 FOR 1 admission at the door..that's $5.00 for two of you!!
Mr.Sticks
Steely Fan Band

ole: Thanks! And please also pencil me in for any Atlantic coast hooterie you're planning.

Midnite: You're welcome, mate. And likewise back at you, Opti and your 6. Is the raccoon still hanging around the feeder?

skully- my head is a-swirl with ideas but access to the gb gallery has been temporarily (i hope) postponed. i'll have to root out gb'er pics from various other sources. but a few i have in mind are:

aussie of the gramercy park gigolos/position: bat man
dr mu of the texas twisters/position: resident genius
(and of course)
wormtom of the new orleans saints/position: chaplain

hey lisa

love your commemorative cards.

that Blaise hunk one sure is fun.

so who else you plan on expounding on?

us gb gals wanna know!

and that's different how?

Biting the heads off small animals to a hard-driving guitar?

I wonder what's up at the Ozzy Osborne site?

sh- i noticed over the weekend that the gallery link was missing. it couldn't have come at a worse time, as i was working on a little project designed to bring some levity back to the guestbook. now where will i filch all my pics from?

i DID have a chance to begin the follies:

http://www.geocities.com/showbizkid/banyan_tree_babes.html

have we girls chased away all the gb men?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmwah!

;-)

But do we really need to hear "My Old School" anymore?

am i the last to notice the gallery is gone?

five (sd) songs i can hardly stand to hear

Throw Back the Little Ones
Barrytown
Parker's Band
With a Gun
Charlie Freak

lp - thought maybe you could relate to that "shit happens" thing

to the sunday nite chat gang - a big mmmmmwwwaahhh!

ok, anon. here's how i did it:

i thought and thought about which 5 songs i liked the LEAST out of the 100 plus in steely dan's sack. then i typed them in a column without regard to greater or lesser evil (please pronounce eee-vil). then i hit the post button.

it's as simple as dat!

I put an X on my apartment window and have discovered the following:

KD has joined Krycek (he's not dead, stupid) in a "double agent" attempt at helping the aliens in order to help us, and btw, he's really krycek's brother, their mother was the lady a couple of season's ago that kept getting abducted

||||| has joined the FBI looking for internet aliens posting anonymously

Gina IS Monica Reyes, thus her clairvoyancy makes it very difficult to work with the internet because it messes up her head

DS Slut is Doggett's love slave, but watch it, is that black oil or mascara running over her eyeball?

Okay, gotta run..... hey, where's my cell phone? Have my rent-a-car privileges been taken away? I never DID buy a car.

Too many WASPs on here right now... wannabees I mean... Gimme Some Hebe. Um, I mean Steve.

okay elle, i get it now - LOL

i don't program out these songs when i play the cd; however, i wouldn't program them in either:

reelin in the years, except the AiA version, that was VERY cool
brooklyn
the boston rag, if you can believe it, except the live show in mansfield, mass last year, that rocked pretty damn good
parker's band
caves of altimira (with apologies to alti, i like the lyrics though)
dallas (with apologies to the texans who post here)

when playing the cd at home or in the car of 2vN, a divorce court settlement is threatened because HE skips over a few songs that I would NOT have - funny what couples fight about in the car, and you thought it was about directions/where are we, ha! haiti? nah, too cliche - LOL......

okay, let me have it!

||||||, DS(tm), KD, Gina...

They're here, they're not, they're here, they're not...

It's weirding me out considerably...

It's giving me Sternum Agony...

It's playing to my sense of the melodramatic...

It's a little bit country, a little bit rock and roll...

YO Alister-- would you mind? my Gaelic is a tad rusty.

Stringy
Wash thine lugs oot wi' soap man !!
Third world man - Classic Larry Carlton
West of Holywood - chris potter and modulation mayhem
bodhisattva - still gets the crowd moving at any jam session
Remember - there's no "B" grade here - only "A" and "A++"
Regards

Now how the fuck can you put west of hollywood in the same list with change of the guard?

you gotta admit: even a "bad" steely dan song is still pretty fucking good. however, there are a few i could live without:

(in no particular order)

third world man
bodhisattva
turn that heartbeat over again
west of hollywood
change of the guard

lp..strange is not the word.. he told me he was Brian Augers brother but "HE" changed his name when he got married last year.
I was trying to be nice to him..although I was confused about his gender..seriously..but I mentioned Absolutley Fabulous to him..as Brian Auger does the shows' theme song Wheels of Fire..and he made no mention back. Then I asked someone in the chat if he was in England and they said no..and so on and so on..so I assumed he was bullshitting me. THAT's ALL!!!!!!
DAMN IT!! Did he have to leave his beloved space- this GB- because of THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT? OH puhlease. Pretty gutless if you ask me. Our interaction had nothing to do with basketball!!!FFS I said to him, perhaps we should sit in the corner and drool together, sweetie, because I was getting so much aggra.
If he's saying he's leaving because of me.. cool.. maybe it's him who should lighten up. I take personal affronts seriously.I like to be in a peaceful environment, but I'm not going to sit here and waffle, if someone gets in my face for no reason. um, 3 words-
taurus-the-bull.
I never had anything against KD.

ok ok WRONG..calling Scotland
hey dano did you see ...Later when Beck was on singing Turn it up Now? LOL!!!
the thing is did you see those two gals, the back-up singers?
very familiar looking indeed!

rofl - my goodness EllE, you just gotta relax here - you HAVE to admit that exchange with KD you had was pretty damn wacky, how could any of us NOT comment on it, it took some scrolling to get past it, took up some serious room - so it was funny, a joke, right? -

have we lost our satiric and cynical sense of humor here or what?

Just poking my head in to rave about Kid C. That bassline is killer! Yup, I'm still out here. I got glasses the other day - just for driving, but it makes a difference.

Hope you all are enjoying the summer.

five (sd) songs i can hardly stand to hear...

It's meretricious to call Deacon Blues a production. Aja maybe. But to dislike Deacon Blues you'd have to be teetotaler and, hence, in this case, pretentious yourself.

lp- fine!!!..she "threw" it FIRST with some bull, about myself and KD's "debacle"..about basketball..For Chissakes..if you're going to throw them be correct!!! *mumbling some rude words*

lp- i LOVE aimee mann! i didn't know until recently that paul thomas anderson actually wrote the film "magnolia" based on her music. he had been a long-time fan since the days of 'til tuesday and found the dark, bizarre characters easily materialized from her songs. i just think that is so cool and i wonder how many other instances of that sort of transference there have been?

Jen! Was that really you? WOW! - Come on Elle, cut her some slack, you got to admit, she was pretty articulate and cool with her retort - anyone has to expect retaliation once a cyber-stone has been thrown

angel and nmn, a gin and tonic tomorrow is in order in honor of our very own jen and tonic! miss you mark, but we will congregate again soon

aimee mann is a great songwriter, though her well-deserved slam on Phil Collins did not exhibit much class on her part - i saw her once about ten years ago in a funky boutique in Harvard Square, very cool and mild-mannered - she is also very good in concert - her new year's solo show at a small bar in allston in 1990 was excellent (wait, that was a while ago wasn't it, wow)

i have a long post at the ready for another journal entry - but will do it later

fretless: annonymous posts are so rich and entertaining- I wouldn't necessarily label them "cowardly"; it is amusing to wonder [briefly] what the poster believes s/he has accomplished [aside from making an asshole of themselves]. You, however, have crossed the line now, haven't you?

Fine, you got a rise out of me. Your bait was taken. Awesome!
Have a wonderful day.

Fretless

mgdorsey - no idea why the name "Charlemagne" was chosen, but your comment about it sounding right (melodious I think you said) is probably the main factor.

D+W have often talked about the problems of balancing lyrics that have the right sound and rhythm, versus the need to string a story together. My feeling is that for names, they obviously have a lot of freedom to choose the word(s) for phonetic reasons, so they'll go with something that just "sounds good".

Note that the live version of JOS started with "Melvin's rolling ..." but the album cut had "Teddy's rolling ...". There was a slight change in ryhthm too - the live version started a bit before the 2nd beat of the bar, so the longer "Melvin" worked OK. The album version has the name starting bang on the 2nd beat, so they needed something snappier - hence Teddy.

Bottom line is that for things like names, they'll probably always change it to suit the melody and rhythm of the song, rather than choose a name for other reasons.

Regarding negative comments about Steely Dan and/or their music, I get irritated by people who cannot stomach someone expressing a critical view on a SD song. I may not share views expressed by Clas/z or others, but I do give their thoughts some consideration. Secondly, saying that Fagen's singing is not quite up to scratch on such-and-such a performance, or that you don't think song X is particulary good, is NOT equivalent to "rubbishing" Fagen/s singing or Steely Dan's writing. If you can't tell the difference, maybe you should give it a little more thought.

To be honest, I'd rather see a little more in the way of constructively critical comments. There is a danger on guestbooks or discussion lists that there are 999 posts of "I love this song" for every one post of "I think the solo on X is disappointing". It's just a question of balance.

The reason that most of us are here on the GB is because we love SD and their music. Given that fact, to imply that there is no room here for criticism of aspects of the music is dangerous and, to me, unwelcome.

Stevieedan - good news on the gig front. We'll have to swap notes on the 2nd Arr. some time - I've worked out chords for the verse, not got round to typng them up yet...

Clas - I'm always open to chord suggestions, guitar, keyboard, whatever. There's a similar progression in the OLGA file for POTQ, though the bass notes are different to what you have. The OLGA file's by Bruce Mackinnon, who I've emailed many times and I know he does good transcribing work! He gives:

Dbm7/Ab C7/G Bm7/F# Bb7/F Am7/E Ab7/Eb Dm7 C

Very similar to your chords, except for the bass notes.

Howard

Clas- You and z deserve each other all right. I think what Anon of The Year ment is that "shit stickes together"

My comments were ironic.

When are you gonna have a "Raelian ""cosmic orgasm"" nite at Squonks?

ANON of The Year! - I don't like Deacon Blues and Aja. I think those songs are pretentious bullshit. Those songs are no "songs", they are productions.

And if I deserve Z, that's fine, he's a great guy, and he's no opportunist, that's what I like about him. He's not coming to this site for the chance of winning a T-shirt or a back stage pass, he's simply sharing his views of things.

You, on the other hand, are a wheedling, oily asslicker, and I know who you ARE mr Interior Designer.

C

the Stranger - is Paris worth a Mass?

Mid Cruis - too bad about drummer Mike. "When not touring or in the studio, Mike enjoys spending time with his son Mike Jr., and his daughter Erica Rose. He also likes hunting, fishing, and riding his 105 inch Harley-Davidson." (doobiebros.com)

Lisa - funny girl! When are you making that site official?

C

Edd--Don't even bother. Not worth it.

NYbill--do you say that "nibble"? I'm also very fond of "Don't Let Me In." Very insinuating song.

RS--most excellent talking to you today. Especially reminiscing about all that sex & violence at our various mutual DanFests.

Cara--That Jonatha Brooke can SING. Great hanging with you--sorry we had to sneak away. The 'Squeeze says, can he drive your car again, please?

lisa--dunno who fretless is, but I HEARD THAT and couldn't say it better myself. You are the bomb.

Aus--Put me down for that outing. I'd bet you're just as elegant in a pair of binocs as in LBB.

Cray--Ha. Too good. And there's "Drank Scotch whiskey all night long and died behind the wheel."

Blaise, mon semblable, mon frere, how DO you say possum in French?

2canplay--that was good. My favorite line of the week: "I know a felon with a rocket launch satire." Are you the notorious Norvis?

J'bo--There MUST be a SD tribute album one of these days. I liked Leon Redbone doing "Chain Lightning" in "Me, Myself, & Irene," but it didn't make it to the cd. I also liked Ben Folds Five doing "Barrytown." That's a good fit. How about Yo-Yo Ma doing "The Fez" (so tango)? Chris Isaak doing "What A Shame About Me"? Diana Krall doing "Negative Girl"? Junior Brown doing "Cousin Dupree"? Richard Thompson must do "Charlie Freak," sans bells. OK, I'll stop reaching now.

MC--great idea. All you Virginia/ NC/ environs (ie anywhere on the planet) Fest veterans: will get details from kd & get planning. We can stop & meet stevie at Mama Dip on the way. Peach cobbler!

Hmm. I haven't been in chat for weeks at least.

OK, what's up with Hoops! doing a new GB? What, I need another full-time job keeping up with TWO guestbooks, TWO newsgroups, three radio stations, the ODP, and fitfully maintaining a page? I don't know how much more I can take. Though I do appreciate the vote for civility and conviviality over the litany of personality disorders. I can read the DSM-IV anytime. See ya there.

z- Fagen's voice is stonger now then it's EVER been!

Hank Silvers....many thanks my friend!! you also rounded out my collection! All our best to you and the fam!

and in other news:

Doobie Brothers drummer in serious condition after motorcycle crash:

http://www.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/24/doobie.drummer.ap/index.html

Jim#-thanks for the great recap. You are absolutely right: whatever your reasons for hanging out here, the best thing to come out of this place is meeting the people (the REAL people) behind the handles.

Hutch-loved the hippie story. I would have loved to hang with you in the 70's (if I'd been of age ;o)

Steveedan-see you in August. Catch The Steely Damned on July 25 if you can-that show always rocks.

Out for a run on this gorgeous evening. Have a great week, one and all.

Aja

Steely Dan moment of the day,

While walking thru the water park and wearing my Sign in Stranger t-shirt, in search of 7 boys...."Peg" comes blasting thru the loudspeakers. I was dressed for the occasion....almost started dancing, but felt if Eian wasn't there to be embarassed, I wouldn't get the extra points.

Dear Anon of the Year,
I've played professionally with Bernard Purdie so I know he's a great drummer. If I "ragged on him" it was about his coming to a rehearsal without a drum set and making the poor bandleader find one.
As far as DF goes, it's a sad fact of life that most falsetto singers start to decline after 50- have you ever heard Frankie Valli warm up nowadays? A friend of mine went on the road with him years ago and it's not a pretty thing.
I'm not saying DF is that bad yet, but listen to Babylon Sisters on the original LP and then listen to Plush.
Then again, they can do a lot in the studio nowadays, so you'll probably only notice it live.
I'm sorry that we Raelians have to be the bearers of bad news (the CLONAID thing isn't going too well either)about your little heroes, but when the extra-terrestial scientists (our creators) come back for us and our clones, you'll thank us then.
Rael be with you my brother.

Anon of the year: maybe you smell your own ass?

z- Oh please, give me a break. Their was a time here a few months back where all you did was rag on Purdie. Now it's Fagen's turn to get ripped apart by you. You and Clas just love to come on this forum and bash the music we all love. Right Clas? Deacon Blues sucks. You two guys deserve each other. You both stink!

Route 66
Known as The Mother Road or sometimes The Will
Rogers Highway, Route 66 is now a piece of
American History extending from My Kind of Town,
Chicago the City of the Angels, Los Angeles and
crossing 8 states and 3 time zones. Commissioned in
1926, Route 66 is 2448 miles long running from
Illinois through Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico
and Arizona to California.

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Dear Anon,
Where did I say that Purdie sux?
He may be a kind of crazee dude, but I never said anywhere that he sucked.
He messed up a solo at a rehearsal once when I played in a big band with him, but that doesn't mean he sux. Everybody fux up once in a while u turd.

Question: does Neil Young or anyone from Crazy Horse own.. the
Crazy Horse- Establishment you are talking about?

Yeah get the Led out! good day for it : ))

Cyn- thanks , but I'm on a diet luv. : )

Hutch- hello, no I didn't go to that place. Sounds like a fun trip. Back then hubby had a VW weiner as well, and travelled all over with his buds. Yeah.. just deeked off the 66 and went up to Santa Fe- to see art.

Jim#- I thought # meant that you have braces, on your teeth ; )

steviedan- I didn't know Wilcox was from there. hmmmmmm. I think he lives in California now- that's where my cousin lives-his manager, but I could be wrong.

steveedan- nice set lists!

Hello everyone -

difjuz is absolutely right with the 2 songs that he mentioned (having the word "zombie" in the lyrics) - Sign In Stranger and Haitian Divorce. Great job Dif !!!

The third one is Turn That Heartbeat Over Again (But zombie see and zombie do - He's here with me and you). When I saw this trivia quiz posted by Jack with his Radar I immediately thought of the same 2 songs instantly. It took a few more moments to find "Heartbeat" in my brain (would that be "brainbeat"?). I love the solo section of this song. This solo is not published, of course. (You all know the drill by now - if you want the chord changes, let me know.)

Brother N. Tears wrote: "Hey SteveeBaybee, how about trying West of Hollywood?" Hey Bro N. T. - this song has so many chords in it that I am actually saving it for last. Yes, this one I cannot yet play ! You got me !!! I do have the songbook for 2VN (which just like those that have come before it leaves a lot to be desired), but I will learn it because I HAVE TO !! As one of the self-professed Steely Dan headcases, I have no choice in the matter. The other 3 songs off of 2VN that I still have to learn are Gaslighting Abbie, Two Against Nature, and Janie Runaway. I have played through all of them but these 4 are not up to my stringent level of "performance strength" proficiency.

Hi W1P - Hope all is going well. How is little Aja? I am pretty darn sure (almost f*ckin' positive) that I will be at Paladino's on 8/11. I might still be playing with the SFB. I am looking forward to meeting you. Take care buddy.

Looking forward to chat tonight. To everyone - have a great week.

Steveedan

z- Yeah right! Bernard Purdie sucks and Fagen can't sing. You my friend, are one angry, frustrated musician. Drive west on Sunset..... then make a left of the cliff.

p.s. stop talking to yourself

paige!

sorry i missed you. i was in the gb and you logged off just as i typed PAIGE!!!

anyways...

sign in stranger-you zombie, be born again my friend

haitian divorce-he/she drink the zombie from the cocoa shell

off night backstreet-maybe im just kidding myself
when i say i love you...you zombie you

maybe see you tonight, lapaige
dif

z -"Instead of that strong, supported-sounding, annoyed tone of voice he achieves on the Gaucho record version (which is one of the reasons why SD can't be duplicated vocally), we get a wimpy, Michael Franks-type murmur, "Drive West on Sunset", that doesn't command us to drive in that direction (like on the album), but gently just suggests to us to proceed in that direction."

Well put.

The Zeitgeist is yours only once in your lifetime. Too sad.

C

clas- email me!

When not reporting on the proceedings at Clone Court, I do also have to make a living just like any other working stiff and, since Plush came out, I've devoted the last day of my high school American Music class to listening and watching Plush as a kind of sum up of the fusion of American music styles.
This semester I asked the handful of students who actually showed up to write down their impressions of the music. When no one seemed to bite at that one, I offered extra credit to the task.
Since only the good kids show up on the last day, most of them passed on this also. However, a few desperate ones in a last ditch attempt to pass scribbled something down.
Since this school ranks at the bottom of NYC schools in writing(due to a large immigrant influx), I will make no attempt to reproduce their scribblings, but the gist of the one or two attempts was that they could play their instruments well, but, since the music didn't "just come out" and wasn't new, they couldn't say they liked it. However, if it were new, they said they would probably like it.
My own reaction to Plush this time consisted of admiration for Herington's "playing with intent" and strong melodic statements on his solos, and disappointment for DF's vocal chops on "Babylon Sisters".
Instead of that strong, supported-sounding, annoyed tone of voice he achieves on the Gaucho record version (which is one of the reasons why SD can't be duplicated vocally), we get a wimpy, Michael Franks-type murmur, "Drive West on Sunset", that doesn't command us to drive in that direction (like on the album), but gently just suggests to us to proceed in that direction.
And that is not enough to give us a Raelian "cosmic orgasm" as opposed to the normal ones you mere earthlings have.
This could be due to the lateness in the set, but I'm afraid that all of our rock and/or roll heroes have to mellow out vocally somewhat in their old(er)age.
Witness Paul McCartney's out of tune wailings in the "Live at the Cavern" special- I had to turn that one off.
Even the greats, Ella Fitzgerald, Sinatra, etc.. lost it vocally towards the end so, I guess the advice is to, vocally, maketh hay while the sun still shines.

Mare, Miracle Mare?

C

Cyn - šhhh, seriously, what do you mean, are you only dealing with mares (fillies?)?

---

Guest at my galleri this week is my father. He painted Kid Charlemanges bus back in 1942.

Too much snow in Minnesota, or did he feel like Jesus?

http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/galleri/

C

Sorry steevee, mid-week in Irvine is an impossibility. I just asked about 8/11, because I understand that SFB has been inked to open for W1P and Led Zepagain at Paladino's and wondered if I'd see you there.

Hutch...

http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1222973774/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/itemid=1162473

...includes a sound byte.

NMN - I remember an instrumental hit from 1961 called "You Can't Sit Down, Part 2". It was by Phil Upchurch. The same one who's still performing today. I remember that I really liked the song but unfortunately I can't for the life of me remember the melody.
What I do remember is commenting to my Dad one day, while it was playing on the radio, that it was by Phil Upchurch. My Dad was somewhat hard of hearing and he happened to be eating lunch at the time. When I mentioned Phil Upchurch he got really upset and told me not to talk like that. I couldn't figure out what the problem was till I pressed the issue. Turns out he thought I said "upchuck".
I wish I could find a copy of it. Love to hear it again after all these years.

eLLe - You mentioned travelling across the panhandle of Texas into New Mexico and Arizona. I made a cross-country trip back in 1971 with some of friends. Basically four hippies packed into a VW van. Anyway I remember going through a little town in Arizona called Jerome. I think it used to be a mining town. It's now an artist community for the most part. The cool thing is that it's built right on the side of a small mountain with a fairly steep slope. As we drove across this flat desert plain we could see it in the distance on the side of the mountain. Very cool place. Ever been there?

Well, as mini-Danfests go, this one certainly had its' moments in the sun. Mrs.# and I set off north along the Virginia / Maryland Eastern Shore Saturday morning. A leisurely 2 hour cruise and we were deposited into the world of equestrian show jumping and horse exhibition(I profess a knowledge base on this subject about equal to my interest in dreadlocks).

Our hostess flagged us down unceremoniously by waving a cell phone in our general direction ("dammit, I see ya, get outta the road!"). Cyn and the legendary Face. Husbands and progeny, canines and.....whoa, a flower graced table with luscious looking casseroles aplenty. Sitting at the rail, watching magnificent horses canter by, Faces' daughter piling up the ribbons, the soulful baying of a basset in the background. And a cool breeze on a hot overcast June morning.

Santa Anna winds have got nothing on Eastern Maryland. The breeze turned in a gale, the clouds into thunderheads, and within minutes grown people were having trouble standing up right in the wind. While reluctant to put down my plate of antipasto, I conceded when Mrs.# gently prodded me ("put down that food and get yer ass over here with that tarp!"). Suggesting a tornado, Cyn hustled bodies and foodstuffs into the car and stood defiant with Face, rain by now soaking the entire affair (Two Against Nature?). I sprinted to our car and produced an umbrella of unknown lineage for the men, standing about happily getting wet while talking shop and inspecting canned beverages.

Orchestrating a rigorous demographic shift, Cyn found shelter in record time and the Fest carried on. All things Dan were considered, evaluated. GB politics? Naw...but a lively discussion with Face (the queen of quip) about endearing one-liners. Even a gift exchange - note to Wormy - the Gator has landed. And a young man with a six string noodling along in the background with some experimental riffs (how old was he Cyn, 14? He was really good). Hats off to the retired couple who shared their impressive camper, facilities and shade tarp.

The sun reappeared (there were moments, as I stated) in time for a horse jumping competition, and pony showing by the younger lasses (Cyn advised - "see those mothers over there? it's cutthroat I tell ye, cutthroat!"). More beverages and viewing, more jazz and conversation. I think Mrs.# had a better time than she expected, huddling with Cyn and the Face, chortling and making furtive gestures towards the stolid husband group. Hmmmm...setting some future social gig, eh?

At middleaged-ness, nothing can be quite so fun as the pleasure of company with people having a common interest. Whatever your take on this Guestbook, thumbs up to StAl for the chance to meet and mingle with those met here...LP? NMN? Angel?

And on departure, seeing Cyn roll out with Gator upon the dash, clutching a familiar looking yellow t-shirt and a basset lolling out the side window, my thoughts were the same as ever on such occasions: Good people well met. Fiddle convention, anyone?

Jimmy#...You tell them 'bout yesterday....I'm too tired.Indie was so 'hausted when we got home, he couldn't move. Just collasped (after dinner, of course) I propped his eyes open with toothpicks so he could see his bowl.

Amy...Hannie wants you to scratch his back, again...I told him to wait til the Fiddlers Convention....LOL

Folks..Jim# and "the lovely Amy" are some "Dan" fine people. Thru WIND and RAIN they hung in like troopers yesterday.If anyone is ever invited to be in their company...consider yourselves blessed.

ps...am wearing the t-shirt today!

Round# 2....10 boys + 1 amusement park = Death by birthday cake!

Not Your Gold Keith Too

Got the feeling you were here before
And watched 'em as they punch the thirteenth floor
You know you'll have to Pay Pal John
And pay today, don't pay tomorrow
You faster than a brain dead clown
They would fly from Barrytown
Do you work long hours one by one
Or laced with communism?
Did you drive out Your Gold Keith?
And dig cigars they roll?

I have seen the irony in your blast
Can see all this shit fine behind the mask
Unfortunately cannot eye
Your pouty lips
Your gift for the runner-up
You turtle in a train Amtrack shunned
I donate that kinder action
You don't have to dance for me
I've seen your panties before
Did you throw 'em to Gold Keith?

Do you see how they roll
Tobacco they're growin' and pickin'
In fear of the Low Cost
You'll pay a small fee
Even cut the Barbarian's nose
There's one roll up he can't swing
Dumb luck my friend
Don't suck this end next time

Got a feeling that you won by four
Won't you hep me to recount the score
All you got to do is lose
Your sister sues
A gift for the runner-up
Use your lifeline and
Make one last call darlin'
There ain't nothing in New Delhi
For a monkey woman to do
Did she throw out Your Gold Keith?
Do you seek out the troll?

If I had one question to ask 'them', it would be:
What do you think about the digitization of music and sharing thereof over computer networks? It has enabled me to get 'all' of the nuggets (i.e. the things they didn't want released such as the demos [thanks to Metzer's site] and live stuff off pre-RIAA Napster) that SD deemed unfit for Citizen.

What would you ask?

--Praise "Bob"!

QUICK!...Name 3 SD tunes that mention the word Zombie.

Name: Brother N. Tears
anon@demilitarizedzone.com

Date: Sunday, June 24, 19101 at 02:04:44
Comments:

Hey SteveeBaybee, how about trying West of Hollywood?

To Aja - Regarding Steely Dan Tribute bands around the world --

Now this is getting interesting. I like Cousin Dupree, but it is an easy song, so I donÕt count this one as one of the awesome feats of gigging bravery. Two Against Nature is definitely in the awesome feats category. The SFB has been playing Jack of Speed in their current repertoir. The band has played Cousin Dupree and What A Shame About Me in the past and is perfecting Janie Runaway. Thanks to Howard Wright, we have tried Almost Gothic and Negative Girl, but we decided long ago that they would not go over well live. The SFB playes Green Flower Street and this one went over well at the Rude Dog bar gig June 22, 2001.

I have written charts for FagenÕs CenturyÕs End, True Companion and TomorrowÕs Girls for the band to try. I am now curious about Lady BaysideÕs assessment of StealinÕ Dan. I have a video tape of TSD at Le Bar Bat and have only seen/heard the 2nd Arrangement once. I will try to crack that tune and write a chart of it for the Steely Fan Band. Thanks Aja.

By the way, you wrote: ÒSorry, I'm afraid you can't impress anyone here without 2nd A in your repertoire.Ó Is that really true Aja? Would it impress you to know that as a soloist I can practically play every Steely Dan song including all of the solos on all instruments (I do it on keyboards) completely from memory? I realize that these are just words I am writing here on the pale yellow, but if I could really back that up for you, would you be impressed? (ÒPracticallyÓ includes the 3 solo CDs of Donald and Walter, most of the pre-Steely Dan stuff, the tune written for Streisand ÒI Mean To ShineÓ, various live versions of songs, and most of the 2VN CD). Steely Dan is not the only band that I am a fanatical student of. But the Dan are my favorite no doubt. I know this is bragging, but I wonÕt apologize, I will just wait for a duly (or is that dull-ly) inspired anon flamer to point their flame throwers in my direction.

Thanks again for letting me know this information Aja. Maybe my family will see you in August? The little one loves Sea World. IÕll let you know.

Steveedan

kd=anon

KD lies
you can se it in his eyes

YOUR GOLD TEETH II

Who are these children
Who scheme and run wild
Who speak with their wings
And the way that they smile
What are the secrets
They trace in the sky
And why do you tremble
Each time they ride by
CHORUS:
Throw out your gold teeth
And see how they roll
The answer they reveal
Life is unreal

Who are these strangers
Who pass through the door
Who cover your action
And go you one more
If you're feeling lucky
You best not refuse
It's your game the rules
Are your own win or lose

CHORUS

http://www.seanet.com/~billr/birds/birdcam_current.html

Any cover on that Crazy Horse gig?

I told you I'd be back with the minutes from Clone Court on the CLONAID trial of DF & WB, well, here it is.
I don't know why I go thru all of this for you people- if I got caught with my little Board of Ed. cassette recorder in Clone Court, they'd throw me out of The STRUCTURE in a NY minute.
Then where would I be? At least they give me my deludin and 3 squares. If I were deRaeled, as it were, one of you would have to take me in, and believe me, I've lived in trailer parks before and it is no Raelian paradise.
Anyway, here's what I got:
Rael: Order in the court! Kruger, state your case!
Doctor Warren Kruger: Yes, your holiness, this is the CLONAID hearing for those two rock and/or roll musicians who were recently given honorary doctorates by Clone College, Steel-
Rael: Oh yes, those two fellows that won the Grammy for best record in the States. Well, let's get on with it.
Dr. Warren K.: Yes, your Holiness. To assist me with some of the musicological aspects of this case I will need the assistance of one of my former pati- I mean partners who wishes to go by the name of z.
R: Z? Is that in reference to the "Diabolical Dr. Z" by my old friend Jess Franco?
Dr. K: No, your holiness, I believe-
R: Then is it from "XY &Z" with that sexy lass Susannah York getting seduced by Liz Taylor so-
K: No, I saw that one too your holiness, and as much as I was also turned on by that lesb-
R: Then why does he want to be called z?!
K: I don't know your holiness, I believe it's part of his paranoid syndrome that he-
R: Oh. Well he looks kind of messed up- what is he on anyway?
K: I believe he's taking deludin, which I've prescibed for his-
R: Kruger! I've told you before, no drugs of any kind! What is this deludin? Is it illegal?
K: Oh no your holiness, it's just something I prescribe for him when he-
R: Oh, if it's not illegal, I guess we can tolerate it. What's the matter with you, isn't all the free sex around here enough to make you happy?
z: No, it's not like that at all your holiness, I just have some neurotransmitter problems that-
R: Alright, let's get on with this thing. Who's representing the prosecution?
K: Well, we have a number of volunteers, most of them former sidemen with the band Steel-
R: Alright, enough of this prattle, introduce the first prosecutor!
K: Yes, your Holiness, introducing the jazz pianist Keith Jarrett.
R: Alright, Mr. Jarrett, what is your objection to these two Raelian musicians being primary candidates for cloning?
K.J.: These two bastards stole my song from my "Belonging" album
back in the 70s, "Long As-
z: Objection, your holiness! It has long been established that all they did was "borrow" the intro from Mr. Jarrett, and then they went on to compose a much better song than Mr. Jarrett's, with a much more organic melody and more interesting harmony and structure than Mr. Jarrett's.
Besides, they gave Mr. Jarrett songwritng credit after a rather protracted legal case,
R: Mr. Jarrett?
K.J.: Fuck you.
R: I see. Well, next prosecutor...
K: Yes, your Holiness, introducing Bernard Purdie.
BP: These two white faggots be fuckin' with my head yor honor.
They be callin' me up for record dates and then cancellin' them a half hour before the date! Here I am, the 5th Beatle, the 6th Rolling Stone, the first black man on the moon, the-
R: Get him out of here! Security!
R: What does any of this have to do with their Raelian wothiness to be cloned? Can we try to stay on topic? Who's next?
K: Your Holiness, we have Larry Carlton.
LC: Yeah, these 2 clowns used my best licks, ideas, and arrangements for Aja, and what did I get for it? Nada, man, nada.
Then I get attacked in my own house by-
R: Kruger! Get this joker out of here!
K: I'm sorry your Holiness, I didn't have anything to do with getting these people. I left it up to z.
z: I just put an ad in the 802 paper and all these guys got in touch with me.
R: Well, I've had enough of this for now. I'm declaring this court in recess, while we make an attempt to find some Raelian prosecutors who will deal with the true purpose of this hearing.
Court dismissed!

Well, that's about it for now. I've gotta take some more deludin and comfort my otterhound, who's freaking out from all these firecrackers.

Hi W1P - Hows it going?

I haven't yet been asked about the 8/11 gig. The situation at present is that the Steely Fan Band has a new keyboard player (who's name also is Steve) who is still working on the material. Since the band has been getting busy playing live these days, it was necessary to bring me back into the band's line-up to perform while the new Steve is getting up to speed. I am always involved with the SFB and was one of the founding members of the band last year, but up until recently I was behind the scenes, writing charts, giving advice and making tons of phone calls to help the band's efforts.

The next gig is this coming Thursday at the Crazy Horse across from the Irvine Spectrum. I will be there. At the present time, with me in the line-up, the SFB has 2 keyboard players. The Crazy Horse has a fantastic stage. It's huge and it boasts a 50,000 watt sound system. This place is brand new and beautiful. It is a pleasure to play there. I want to invite you to come down to Irvine this coming Thursday night. It would be a pleasure to meet you.

Take care, have a great rest-of-the weekend.

Steveedan

Steeve, does this mean you're playing with SFB on 8/11?

Thing is, you're hoary NOW. hehehe

chicken

Sorry, chat is for losers and those who can't make over here in the big leagues. Or at least that's what someone told me?

chat

It appears eLLe has been battle hardened by all the crap she's had to take here. She's nearly ready...

I'm A-non the barfly
Hello dicks and prudes
WonÕt you sit the fuck down?
Retorts mean nothing from the likes of you

So you say that this place
Under the tress
Is bound for damnation
Thanks for squalling
I bait it right for anarchy

An independent thinker
Imagine the nerve of me
I gather admiration
As a true non-entity
You fuel that
Reply to every post that's mine
Asinine
Then you wonder why I don't take flight...

LEG UP ELLE!!!

Even that Saffie is slightly more tolerable than that JennyWenny.

"Jenny wenny" wrote:
eLLe: I have no interest in getting into a pissing match with you, you have
proved to all of us that you're not worth it, BUT!...I DO have to say, that
you're just a bitch...pure and simple...you come here and just attack
without any true knowledge of those you're addressing. You want to bag
on MY handle??? And what is the derivation of your's sweetness?? Trying
to assume the role of a washed up super model?? You have a lot of nerve
girlfriend...does anyone in this world find you pleasant? The post that you
referred to was directed at KD my dear, not you...and yes, I was alluding to
the whole "I hate you. You're a young, basketball loving idiot..." episode
that the two of you got into awhile back...I was trying to reach out to
someone, one of many, that gave my whole existence on this board,
meaning...you are definitely NOT included in that group. You are a lousy,
old, bitter, not funny (you're little anecdotes are far from interesting),
bleach blonde bitch...There! I said it...phew! That feels good...(Go ahead
and unleash you're idiotic bitter retort...lol)

~~~~~~~~~WHOA!

: ) ..I'm a red head, 5'11' I PLAY basketball.. I like basketball...get a reality check "girlfriend"
and take a chill-pill...age is a definite..why...why... *gasp* it's even happening to YOU...pfffffffffft ..can't u find something a bit cooler to "hit" me with..come ON!
I'd give that a "2" for effort, but it's not a very good come-back.
: )

chat

hechetitipeetwodotsslashslashdubyadubyadubyadotdandomdotcomslashguestbookslash

Five names that I can hardly stand to hear
If it wasn't for the scroll bar I'd be long away from here
I can see the ladies argue, insults,threats and barbs
and that fearsome exchange of e-mails,
where's our Ducklet Miss Cannard?

Yes it's going insane
that once savored, flowing down the drain
stuff one can't condone, honey save me from this downward drone

bad karma and a pee on's mentality my friend
stuffing up this guestbook with faceless rigamortis
with loose cannons and no ability to make ammends

You fella, you tearin' up this book
you wear that smug elite crap, guess it's time to bait the hook
do you take me for a fool, must I always just agree?
ditch your superiora and grab some sense of sincerity

hechetipipeetwodotsslashslashdubyadubyadubyaslashdotdandomdotcomslashguestbookslash

htpp://www3.dandum.con/guessbook/?.cgi

ahh, it's good to be back!

steviedan....were you ever able to rescue the hostages from SK? If not, let me know and I'll send 'em to your humble abode.

lots to catch up on....good to see all of you.

ole....a bird watching DanFest at the shore with KD this fall?

while I applaud Hoops idea of Guest Book without harrasment, this place is where I'll be. Even with the flames and the anon bullshit, I just prefer a "warts and all" environment. Hell, I can even talk about my wife puking if the urge hits me!

Good luck Hoops! You'll always be one of the good guys in my book!

MC

Steviedan: Venter's must be off Hwy 13 or Greene St. Maybe on Mumford? Most of the area was underwater with Floyd a couple of years ago, but that area was hit especially hard - I'm not sure I've been there...

memory rush over me...The place I was thinking about is B's Barbeque! It's on Hwy 43 North towards Falkland and Pinetops, not south towards New Bern. Next time, you're in the area, you should check it out...

You don't pass on a deal like that
It's only promo stuff
But hey it's good enough
Fot the steveedan show
steveedan, steve-e dan, steviedan?
Which one's pink, yo?
steve V dan, s tv Dan, steviedan?
If you say so...

Good morning everybody. Actually, it is way past my bedtime. This 3rd gig that I played with the Steely Fan Band was also great fun. We played to a packed house at the Rude Dog bar in Covina, Calif. We played 24 songs and the crowd asked for more. We didn't give it to 'em, of course, but we did invite them to come see the band play again at the Crazy Horse this coming Thursday night. Retirement for me is currently out of the question, I'm having way too much fun, and I am back in the chart writing business. Here are the songs in our set list from tonight's (really last night's) gig:

Set List Ð Rude Dog June 22, 2001

Set I

1 PREZTEL LOGIC
2 RIKKI DONÕT LOSE THAT NUMBER
3 BAD SNEAKERS
4 DO IT AGAIN
5 MONKEY IN YOUR SOUL
6 JACK OF SPEED

Set II

7 SIGN IN STRANGER
8 THE BOSTON RAG
9 FM
10 DEACON BLUES
11 BLACK COW
12 HEY NINETEEN
13 REELINÕ IN THE YEARS
14 THE FEZ (Intro & Verse Groove only - BAND INTROS)
15 NIGHT BY NIGHT
16 GREEN EARRINGS
17 PEG
18 I GOT THE NEWS
19 GREEN FLOWER STREET
20 JOSIE
21 MY OLD SCHOOL
22 BODHISATTVA

ENCORE SET

23 DONÕT TAKE ME ALIVE
24 KID CHARLEMAGNE

The stage at the Rude Dog was a little bit too small, so one of our guitarists played from the floor in front of the stage. During most of the show he roamed throughout the audience playing the signature leads from the various songs and had the audience eating out of his hand. It was great to watch this going on.

Clas - Janamarie did not sing with us for these last 2 gigs, but another singer named Lisa did who was fantastic. We may have both of these back-up singers at the band's upcoming gig at:

The Crazy Horse (across the street from the Irvine Spectrum) this coming Thursday, June 27 at 8:30 PM. The Crazy Horse boasts a huge stage and a beautiful concert and dance hall, and 50,000 watts. This joint is a'jumpin'!

Time for a well deserved hybernation.

Papabear Steveedan (MFM for the SFB - until further notice)

I know shit happens
You get the hook
I believe I just got the goodbye look
I believe I just got the goodbye look
I believer I just got the good-byyye
I believe I just got the goodbye look

dodedo do dedodo de do...

I surfed uneasy on the day I came to stay
I was quite high, enibriated
I remember a line-up dissing Alan White
The juju and the stevie dan at night

Now the Americans are gone except for two
The imbecile's been out to preach
There's been talk and lately a big vacation after dark
We found no sign of KD on the beach

The drool's exchanged
It's not the same
It's all new frayers in a hole, you're fair game

Last night I dreamed of a leftover dressing tray
I've heard that Fever's down since yesterday
Wake up darling! they're knocking. the Colonel Sanders's in the sill
With his stupid face, the glasses and the bill

I know shit happens
And by the book
I believe one just gave the goodbye look

Won't you pour out a Cuban breeeeeeze for jen?

I know a felon with a rocket launch satire
A skeevy man with two ton shoes
Cause tonight they're arranging a small reception just to see
And grab the big kahuna by the seat

Main Entry: danáfest
Function: noun
Date: 1996
1 : ASSEMBLY, MEETING, GATHERING of Steely Dan Fans and/or their sympathizers.
At first, invented to celebrate a concert date among Steely Dan supporters, its meaning has been extended since 1998 to cover any gathering involving two or more Steely Dan internet forum hangers-on (and their chat, email sympathizers) who meet to participate in various activities including the occasional sex and violence.
Synonyms: hooterie (Virginia), dan gang bang (NYC), one on one interview (Florida), listbot (Midwest), Cajunfest (Louisiana).

All this talk of southern foods and places to eat....BUT,,,no ones mentioned the all time king of kings, The Fish fry at an "All You can eat" fish farm. Catfish, coleslaw, hushpuppies,and maybe french fries.

OR...a BBQ pork sandwich topped with coleslaw.

Sorry, clasie baby, no stallions.

Jim#....... weather is holding, nice and cool so far. Paul won, am bringing the hounds...BAAAAAWHOOOOOOOOOO..listen for that sound, and head in that direction....LOL!

Dame Edna....Love the new pink tint in your hair...lol

now somehow i slipped in an extra "in her" in that post.

(i'm waiting for you all to just scramble to look, go ahead)

that "in her" was intended for another sentence, regarding the woman in houston, cause i don't know what the hell got "in her" or rather "into her".

i can't even talk about it.

god.

listening to "where have i known you before" i'm reminded how this music influenced my early musical colleagues and myself dare i say it... as profoundly as steely dan ? maybe combined with mahavishnu as a genre. steely dan IS a genre unto itself, of course.

"grease of the week" aka "southern soulfood fantasia"

mu, the heavenly faded green apparition known as venters grill was actually out the opposite side of town, cross the tar river out towards stokes and bethel. there, seriously country people served up a meat of neighborhood origin and most importantly all the greasy vegetables and sweet potato biscuits you could hold. in music school, all my money was spent on records, scores, and other types of "scores". many days we would only eat once and brother we made it count. my pitt county angel...

lisa, mama dip is a no-skip. my wife is a chapel hill gal, yet mastered the art of chicken pastry in all it's rural splendor. the art thankfully saved as my grandmother taught her in her in her final year.

jim#, YES ! but fried only.

i will NOT say goodbye or even hint at a goodbye LOOK for gina or kd. welcome to the hotel st. al's guestbook...

fladave, hanksil, jk, you guys show up just in time to illustrate that point...

such a lovely place...

aus, you are a total badass ! i must let you know that i am no longer shilling music products, i am now only shilling pure musical knowlege and performance. i am in a better place for it, but i wish i could help you find those treasures.

some other treasures

hooker n' heat

bunker n' meat(head)

jjflash, i'm gonna think on that sd fantasy tribute album at the gig tomorrow and over the weekend. this could be an epic thread, man. good call.

eLLe, david wilcox is wonderful. another north carolina natural resource and not at all greasy.

everybody have a very greasy weekend.

very very greasy.

like shellac.

...right on Jenny Wenny, can't wait to see your sneer :)

---

Blaise - I'll be there!

Bye the bye honey, this night I've been eating eastrogen* and this morning I tried to be a member of your fan-club, but being a woman doesn't help. How far must I go?

Gelding?

Cyn - are you used to studs?

---

Marlboro Man - moron.

C

* Or was it westrogen? Don't remember.

Okay, not really much of an assault lp, but here goes...

eLLe: I have no interest in getting into a pissing match with you, you have proved to all of us that you're not worth it, BUT!...I DO have to say, that you're just a bitch...pure and simple...you come here and just attack without any true knowledge of those you're addressing. You want to bag on MY handle??? And what is the derivation of your's sweetness?? Trying to assume the role of a washed up super model?? You have a lot of nerve girlfriend...does anyone in this world find you pleasant? The post that you referred to was directed at KD my dear, not you...and yes, I was alluding to the whole "I hate you. You're a young, basketball loving idiot..." episode that the two of you got into awhile back...I was trying to reach out to someone, one of many, that gave my whole existence on this board, meaning...you are definitely NOT included in that group. You are a lousy, old, bitter, not funny (you're little anecdotes are far from interesting), bleach blonde bitch...There! I said it...phew! That feels good...(Go ahead and unleash you're idiotic bitter retort...lol)

how's that for defending myself lp?? lol

Jimbo: THANK YOU! I like Aimee Mann too!! I have heard a slam or two on this board towards her before, but I think she's great! Nice to see that someone else is right there too...

Clas: OH!!! THAT Dallas!!! Okay, now I get it...I think I might have one of those smiles...I still haven't submitted my pic to the gb photo gallery, but I will soon and you'll see...my smile, lol, and NOTHING else, has been compared to Julia Roberts...big, and teethy, lol...

Skully: thanks for the "hats off", but as for a Blaise Fan Club??? I'm out...I refuse to conform to the restrictions of a "club"...my admiration shall stay at a distance...

Wow! That took a lot out of me...see you guys in a few...

you're gonna miss my lovin'...

jenny

I am on borrowed time here, but I had to send 1 more post.

Gina: I am so sorry to hear you are leaving the shade of these Banyan Trees. It has been a pleasure to read your posts these last few months and to hear your voice in the lonely hours at work. Good luck with your life and please feel welcome anytime. Your real cyber friends will miss you. Bye also to Gaucho, we will miss you growing up. :-)

Cyn: Thanks, I intend to. Have a good Danfest of your own. :-)

Royscam: This morning when I woke up it was your voice I heard singing in my head. What a bizarre thing to happen. lol

Good evening all....

To the wetside....

That was the point you stupid olive tree.

Anyone know how SD choose Charlemagne for the name of Kid? Was it just generally melodious, or did the historical Charlemagne do something (no, not make drugs), or have some personality trait like the portrait the song was painting? Thanks alot!MD

Cynny: that's black and tan to those of the southward leaning...

Cyn, have another drink

Jim#...We think we're taking the hounds,(Paul says yes and I say maybe) So just look for Indie tied to Pauls chair.

I asked Jim# what constitutes a "Danfest", he said more than 2 Gb'rs. Well then, including the Face (or as we like to call her,Decaf) that makes 3, so we are havin' a Mini Danfest tomorrow at the Seaside Memorial Horseshow.Anyone else in the area of Salisbury Md. is more than welcome to join us. Look for the table with all food on it and if ya know Jim#, look for him...LOL.

Lp and Angel...have fun in Boston!!!!!

Aus...have a mud wrap for me.WAIT...seaweeds less fattening, right?

Is this thing on?

Jumping in for a quick look since the boss is away and not much has changed, LOL!

Gina, you and chere were/are my favorite reads. Thanks for all the creativity you shared with us-and please don't stay away.

Steveedan-The Steely Damned play Two Against Nature (the song), as well as Jack of Speed and Cousin Dupree. Sorry, I'm afraid you can't impress anyone here without 2nd A in your repertoire. They also play a few from "The Nightfly". Bob especially loves album cuts and shuns the hits, bless his soul.

Jim#-at the time I think I had $20 to last the entire weekend! Hence my desire not to pay for parking-and the walk wasn't that far, only about a mile, and I didn't have to sit in hours of traffic. Can't wait for that CD! Be sure and tip a few for me at your mini Cajunfest.

angel-sure hope you can make July 25! Talk lp into coming out to California!

Hi lp-work hasn't been the same since Lucy and Ethel.....

Off to kick up my heels-have a good weekend, all!

Aja

No. It's "you're," genius.

Or perhaps you were correct after all. Bwaaaaaaahhhhh!!

Have a great weekend all!

re: "Marlboro Man"

WTF are you talking about?

It's "you're" genius.

Yes, a confederacy of dunces

That Elvis Costello site blurb about the Joni tribute CD is old -- very old-- it's saying the tribute is for late summer of "2000"... it has been on and off the release schedule, delayed and back on, for a couple of years now so there's no way to know when it will come out.

face it, it's a new regime

Ed...There's a better chance that you'll start smoking again before the regulars come back to this place and post!

re: Smokey

Cruisin' (1979) from the "Where There's Smoke" album
peaked @ #4 on the Billboard pop and #4 on the R&B. The album was evidently inconsistent and is no longer available.

Being With You (1981) from the album of the same name peaked @ #2 on the pop and #1 on the R&B chart. It is Smokey Robinson's biggest selling single as a solo artist.

Correction: anons do not need to be regulars first.

Cindy lou-who
who was no more than
two

Cindy - Allowed? Not anymore. Thanks a lot!

Un duel!!!
Aussie, les tickets, svp?
Fear, Oh seigneur Clas. When the Concorde crash lands in its rightful place, its namesake, I'll be the burning man with the torn briefs, casually smoking a cigarette amongst the debris. My second will be actor-friend Daniel Auteuil, playing the part of Aussie for the occasion.

C'est un rendez-vous!
En guarde, mon ami!

St.Al- I love your radio station! It's great that you're allowed to put up boot-legs of live Steely Dan shows! I heard West of Hollywood today. Is that from Shoreline or Concord? Is their anyway you could put some songs up from the Boston show? I was at that one and would love to hear a song or two from that show. Do you have any Walter Becker outtakes you could put up? Great station! Keep up the good work!

LadyBayside- Nice report on the cover band from Long Island. Did they do any rare SD songs like 2nd Arrg or Brain Tap Shuffle? How many horns did they have? I'll be in LI next month maybe I can catch a show.

Cin

You can't go back Edd, things will never be the same again.

C

but that's the point of the affliction, ya dummy!

the music draws them in, the fun and satire typically in here keeps the person here, and then it falls apart, and burn-out happens -

so, duh, yourself! lol - see, YOU don't get the joke either, it's JUST A DAMN JOKE! Laugh, okay?

oh, myth? myth?

Do you hear music here baby? Hallucinosis?

The regulars haven't disappeared. We're just waiting for this little episode to pass...

and "where's the fun and satire that drew me in here
to begin with"

WOW! that's odd, Steely Dan, uh-the- MUSIC drew me here

i do not like green eggs and ham
i do not like them sam i am
i do not like them in a house
i do not like them with a mouse
i do not like them here or there
i do not like them in a chair
i do not like them anywhere

Karma police arrest this man he talks in maths
He buzzes like a fridge he's like a detuned radio
Karma police arrest this girl her hitler hairdo
Is making me feel ill
& we have crashed her party.
This is what you get. This is what you get.
This is what you get when you mess with us.
Karma police I've given all I can it's not enough
I've given all I can but we're still on the payroll.
This is what you get. This is what you get.
This is what you get when you mess with us.
Phew for a minute there I lost myself I lost myself

And you're a fool.

anon's were regular's once too

one must be a regular before becoming an anon

live coals?

Regulars drool.

Anons rule.

Howard - Joni's an American, Canada is America, isn't it? My point was simply this; if you move to USA you'll become a US-citizen don't you?

---

And hey, I got this great guitar-voicing for the bridge in ÓPearl of the QuarterÓ, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't dream of trying to teach YOU the guitar-stuff, but this I found out just by chance, years ago.

It's the part where they sing ÓAnd if you hear from my Louise won't you...Ó

Start on 4th fret and just use the E(thumb)-D-G-B strings on the first five chords, two chords per bar:

C#m7 C7 / B#m7 Bb7 / Am7 then up to Eb-dim/ ordinary Dm7 back to C

---

Blaise - Place de la Concorde then, August 6th, 5 AM. I'll wear a scarlett o' horror carnation in my buttonhole. And remember, your pidgeon-French won't do in Paris. Use your English.

The Stranger is my Second.

Au Reservoire!

C

yes, i have actually -

GB burnout: a condition where one discovers that people posting here either, have no sense of humor and can't take a little joke or ribbing, or, have a sense of humor which consistently reeks of demeaning twisted posts about other people - upon such discovery, afflicted person hears voices in their head saying "where's steely dan", "what happened to planning dan-fests", and "where's the fun and satire that drew me in here to begin with" and then merely tips out the door with a final post....

this condition has afflicted the likes of |||||, ed, alti, lisa g, kd, and now gina has been stricken with it

the anti-dote: the chat room

sha! Right! and how many times has the Band "retired" ??
you can't EVER leave this place!
Come on!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhm FIFTY!! FIVE-OH

A couple years ago (May) I drove from Detroit- south and caught Route 66 and went through New Mexico..Santa Fe ( if you like art..go there, yes yes) across the top of Texas and through Arizona.
That was AWESOME! I loved it there. I can still close my eyes and see those vistas that go on forever, with the pointy mountain peeks...and ALL that slate rock..I'm still kicking myself in the butt for not stopping and loading up the van with that stuff, which was all along the road side for miles and miles. DAYAM!
(for re-doing my patios)

But you know..September is also a good time to go.. for The Burning Man Festival. I've never been myself but certainly would like to.

eLLe

show me where you are
you and I will spend this day
driving in my car
through the ruins of Santa Fe

*TWERP TWERP TWERP*

Anyone elso noted that just about all of the GB regulars have disappeared?

*CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP*

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzznnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzznnnnnnnnnnnnnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Yeah, suppose so, got that ring of goo round the outside.

S'up folks? My home internet connection has been intermittent this week, so since I had to come in early to get the car worked on I'm taking this chance to catch up before we open at work...

Snakie! - how are ya? I'll try to e ya before it gets swamped here...

Jen - Hey looooooooooooooooooooooove, I've been thinking... let's "talk" soon. I should be able to e tonight, according to Pacbell...

Blasier - "Like tones said, a repulsive, babbling Yoda with teeth missing and an unwarranted attitude." No no no... I was refering to your great wisdom. Yoda was the only one in the movies that knew what the fuck was going on. Of course, most of his advice was ignored... And everybody knows Yoda was a babe magnet. So there's another parallel...

Gina - *doing my best Van Morrison doing Muddy Waters* "Baby please don't go, Baby please don't gooooo. Baby please don't go down to New Orleans, you know I love you so. Baby please don't go..."

Lisa and Daddy G - No fair getting a life.

Great news about the Joni cover. Can't wait to wrap my ears around that.

steely peace peeps!

t

could very well be...

OLEANDER? Nah.

nybill: you don't get it, man. that WAS aussie in chat last night.

Hey! WAIT a minnit!!

Summer
+
The Outer Banks
+
kd

??

I SMELL A DANFEST!!!

kd, got any idea what you're in for? One could not BUY a better raison de Fest. Who's with me? Start naming weekends, and GET YER TOES READY!

For your amusement

InfoBeat - *Memorable 'Archie Bunker' quotes

By The Associated Press
Gloria: Do you know that 60 percent of all deaths in America are
caused by guns?
Archie Bunker: Would it make you feel any better if dey was
pushed out of windows?

Archie Bunker: Well, I'll tell you one thing about President
Nixon. He keeps Pat home. Which was where Roosevelt should have
kept Eleanor. Instead he let her run around loose until one day she
discovered the colored. We never knew they were there. She told
them they were gettin' the short end of the stick and we been
having trouble ever since.

Mike: Let me tell you something Mr. Bunker...
Archie Bunker: No, let me tell you something, Mr. Stivic. You
are a meathead! A meathead, dead from head up! A meathead!

Archie Bunker: When your mother-in-law and me was goin' around
together, it was two years _ we never _ I never _ I mean absolutely
nothin', not 'til the wedding night.
Edith Bunker: Yeah, and even then...

Gloria: I'm sorry, Mr. Davis, sometimes my father says the wrong
things.
Sammy Davis Jr.: Yeah, I've noticed that.
Lionel Jefferson: But he's not a bad guy, Mr. Davis. I mean,
like, he'd never burn a cross on your lawn.
Sammy Davis Jr.: No, but if he saw one burning, he's liable to
toast a marshmallow on it.

Archie Bunker: Now, no prejudice intended, but I always check
with the Bible on these here things. I think that, I mean if God
had meant for us to be together he'd a put us together. But look
what he done. He put you over in Africa, and put the rest of us in
all the white countries.
Sammy Davis Jr.: Well, he must've told 'em where we were because
somebody came and got us.

Source: Internet Movie Database

Aus = @?

Hello friends,

Well mrbill had fun in chat last night once again thanks to
SH, Dif, and Mr.Hoops...Cept' mrbill got stuck at the end
talking to some guy named "Asthma" who kept insisting he
was the notorious anon by the name of "@"... so just in case
mrbill was talking to the person named "@"...

Dear @,

Let me refresh you're memory, "Scram NYBill, we dont need
no downers like you around here. You're first instinct to leave
was the correct one." and so on... Strike 1!

Pretending to be Aus...Strike 2!

If you really are a LAWYER...Strike 3! You're atta' here!

(my personal belief is that you really were Kenny G....)

Dear "Safe at Home"...,

Your explanation of the Walter Becker effort on the Michael
Franks "Blue Pacific" release was flawless...You are obviously
a person of depth and quality...YUH HEAR THAT @!

Peace, Love, and Bobby Sherman to all...,
NYBill

sorry babe, that was lp

enimem: Cruisin' was a classic by Smokey Robinson recorded about the same time as Being with You - after 1975s Quiet Storm album. Both Cruisin' and Being with You are superb pop recordings. I bet Edd knows the year and album name...

Gina:I thank you for the words of encouragement. After the swelled head comes the inevitable crash and burn(I know-car crash fixation).
Don't say goodbye,say I'll see you later.Keep as many doors open as possible. Desiderata.

Duncan:Still gettin' squiffy? Didn't you kill my brother?

How about Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music doing Razor Boy? Is Ferry fronting on their tour or what?

NMN:Sorry man, I've never heard of Upchurch or Fiorentino.Is there a symbolism involved in your handle? I missed it, sorry. Forgive a country mouse.

Lp:Shine on.

Fine report on everything BUT the bottom line: were the backup singers as hot as Janamarie, hun? hubba hubba

Well, I am moved out of the house and semi-settled on Lawn Guyland. Decided to celebrate the unpacking by going to see Stealin' Dan at a club in Farmingdale.

Quite frankly, I wasn't too terribly excited ahead of time, having already seen The Steely Damned, which I considered to be the tribute band of tribute bands (heck, even Walter and Donald acknowledge their existence, even if they haven't said anything beyond that!)..but I was blown away.

Blown away. We arrived a bit late, but were still early enough that they hadn't gone on yet (apparently this is legendary for them...fashionably late starts) and from the first few notes, I just looked at my friend and said "holy shit". They have two singers who handle the vocals (with one song being taken by the guitarist) and a total of 13 (I think) members, including a two singer midriff section.

The horns were just smoking..the guitarists were right *there*, and the drummer set the pace nicely. Their main keyboardist, who is also their musical director (and handled half the vocals) was wonderful. There wasn't a member of this ensemble who didn't hold up their part famously.

They did some gems, but stuck to the more rock and roll-ish Dan. Green Earrings, Haitian Divorce, Midnight Cruiser, My Old School, Kid C (with spot on guitars)..but did do Home at Last, Gaucho, and Time Out of Mind.

I wish I could be more articulate, but for one, I don't know everyone's names in the group. Two, I've gotten very little sleep, and three, I am typing this on my computer which I set up in a corner of my room on the floor. I'm practically folded in half trying to type this.

I have to say that they could definitely give the Damned a run for the money...as long as they are usually this tight. I was told that this was a superlative show, and I am glad I made it.

I *love* Bob Tedde and Hank Easton is a golden guitar GOD. However, since I can't make it to California on a regular basis (or even on any basis..I've never been there...yet)..it's nice to know I can get my fix once a month for this summer at least!

I'd urge any of my fellow NYC people to check out Stealin' Dan next month. It's worth the train tix for those commuting from the city!

Hi to everyone...and I wonder, what do jackelopes eat, anyway?

Lady B

uh, yeah, nmn, i think she just did, not a good thing, she's the tiffany lamp in the corner shedding colorful light on things in this bar we have here - so, everybody barrage her with emails saying don't go

kd, too, he can't go either

i love the huey lewis song recently a remake with the ghost singer for ms paltrow, anyone know who really sang that?

aus, come to boston for lunch on tuesday buddy, we need to talk about luke- e me for location details

thanks for poppin in aja - we miss you here too

happy friday - lotsa rain this weekend so my poolside plans are getting squashed, yipes!

Did Gina just leave too?

Mu - Huey & the News did have their moments (ducks) [LB tribute there]. "I Want a New Drug" works quite well.

* * *

HEY EVERYONE! PICK UP MY THREADS! *MY* THREADS, viz.:

Who is Phil Upchurch?

Is Linda Fiorentino a Dan character or what?

* * *

So we're developing a nice undercard here:

eLLe vs. KD
Clas vs. YGK
Blaise vs. the Parisian mimes

What should the main event be? Let's get ready to rumblllllllllllllllllllllllle...

lp, you're the referee.

Johnny, what do we have for our lovely contestant?

OK, who can get from Steely Dan to Elvis Costello in 3 degrees of separation?

ANSWER: Michael McDonald was an official member of Steely Dan for the 1974 tour and Katy Lied, then joined the Doobie Bros. on tour and 4 subsequent albums including the Grammy winner, Minute by Minute. John McFee joined the band as a guitar player on One Step Closer after Skunk left in a snit about the time of the Grammy triumph. John McFee previouly played guitar for a band called Clover. Clover was Elvis Costello's back-up band for his "shoulda won a Grammy" debut "My Aim is True"

To review: Steely Dan--> Doobie Bros --> Clover --> Elvis Costello

extra credit pretzel logic - from Steely Dan to Huey Lewis and the News in 3 degrees of separation...

I was dissapointed as not is this one sneaky as hell, but it's also a clue for above. Besides John McFee, another member of Clover was harmonica playing Huey Lewis. However, Huey Lewis did NOT play on the My Aim is True album [what a shame ;-o ].

Thus: Steely Dan ---> Doobie Bros. ---> Clover ---> Huey Lewis and the News

This sick part is I kinda like Huey Lewis and the News. They may be a bar band that got lucky, but Sports does have a tinge of blues in it...and Small World IMHO is not the music equivalent of Ishtar or Cleopatra...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B00005J9WP001002/002-6674230-2644852

Aus- What goes on? Was in Biloxi on the Gulf gambling Sun thru Tues. Had a ball, did well....etc. Back in the Gig saddle now.
Still lurking and occasionally popping my head in the chatroom door.Have had guys here working...building a pool/guest bathroom.
Hope you're enjoying the NYC summer. A big Shoutout to everyone!
Stay Cool, Floridavid

change that "," to a period between www and amazon, if you want to hear it. Instant Karma!

angel you mean...
http://www,amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B00005J9WP001002/002-6674230-2644852
?
Yeah smooth-jazzed up instrumental. Phil's guitar taking on the vocal melody. Interesting take.

Aus -we need to connect? As in boxing? I prefer slapping satin gloves myself. Where's YGK? Forget that. Fly ME to Paris and I'll take care of Clas and the french mimes for everyone.

so Mu, what is it? They all slept with Kevin Bacon or something?
b

hi there!
although i wrote an email to Blaise (or else he'd be worried over nothing if i were absent or silent) i was not gonna do this on the GB because i felt it was silly, i think it's only showing courtesy to those who have been fun to be around during the last year ever since i joined in May 2000.

this GB has strange whirlings and i guess i've experienced a few, if not many if not all. it's been a haven when i first entered to find myself in cyberspace and free myself in realtime life ... i met nice people, have some great CD's to show for (thanks Steviedan, Clas) and it's been a cess-pool for wacked creativity and re-juvenile fun.

KD said he had no use for the GB anymore, i say i have grown out of it and do wish to express some sentiments that some of you are two-faced sanctimonious gossiping people filled with crap, you know who you are ... and this "knowledge" did close the GB-door behind me.

to everyone else who genuinely appreciated some of what i contributed and whose posts and ideas and thoughts and feelings i liked and shared, thank you for the past year, have fun, enjoy the music and Steely Dan!

Gina

Just checked out the clip that amazon.com has on Jack of Speed. It is quite good and yes, I like the arrangement. For those who missed the information yesterday, the song is done by Phil Upchurch on his new album Tell the Truth. Enjoy.

Fours....

Good morning all....

Real fast post here. On my way today.

Aussie: I have been to Arizona in the summer, no thanks.

jjflash: Thanks for the wishes. Songs on a SD tribute album. Interesting thought. Sorry I did not pick up on this the first time you mentioned it. I know there was a instrumental tribute last year and the Me, Myself and Irene sort of tribute done by modern artists, but I don't think I have ever thought about an artist's from any time tribute. Something to think of on vacation. :-)

Steveedan: Two Against Nature was done by TSD back in March. A very difficult song, to say the least. From what they said, they did not have much practice time, but pulled it off.

Going to check out that version of Jack of Speed when I have the chance. Love that song.

See you on the flip side....

Speed....

Yes, Joni is Canadian (even though you hear the phrase "American folk singer Joni Mitchell ..." quite often. She ain't folk, and she ain't American).

Clas - she describes herself as "bi-national"

Hank - maybe you should check out Joni's later stuff? I've got a feeling you might like that more than Blue. Hissing of Summer Lawns, Hejira and Court and Spark are all very special albums, with more jazz and rock influences.

Steveedan - UK band "Nearly Dan" did performances of Cousin Dupree and Jack of Speed in a gig last year that was just a couple of weeks after the CD was released. They did a fine job, and given the time scale, it was even more impressive!

The JOS was a blend of the live version from earlier concerts and the CD version. I think they may be doing one or two others from 2AN now - check the web for details.

Commodian - hadn't heard about that new version of JOS, sounds interesting.

Closing thought: would love to hear D+W have a crack at Joni's "Harlem in Havana". Sooooo slinky!

Howard

Cyn, have another chat.

jjflash...Don't cha just hate it when that happens? At least it proves that you are serious about what you were striking for. Lets meet in D.C. and picket in front of the White House...you get to pick the reason why we'll be doing it. I'll have the kids on my street make the signs for us. Whats you favorite colour crayon?

So where's the strike? I've arrived 1 1/2hrs early this morning to be part of a wildcat strike which I was told would happen this a.m. I'm now told it was cancelled last night but no one told me.(Local prov. gov. is enacting legislation to take away any unions involving essential services' right to strike).

I'm surprised there are no posts addressing Howard's(I think) idea of a SD tribute album. I would think a site like this would have some influence over the final product.
Ironically,one of my ideas was Johnny Lee Hooker doing Pretzel Logic.A stretch vocally, but he would give it a more purer blues sound.How about Michael Mcdonald on vocals? He sang it once on a Canadian show called Night Music with Fagen playing keyboards.
Kim Carnes doing Dirty Work? Joe Jackson-Green Earrings, Joni Mitchell-Black Cow,Neville Bros.-Midnight Cruiser,Graham Parker-Don't Take Me Alive.
How about Prince doing Night By Night? Now before you go running to the nearest receptacle think about it. You want a different slant on some of these songs and NBN's got a funk groove to it that Prine could just lay into and blow it wide open.(I can feel the rain of empty coffee cups now!!)

Blaise: You,re self description has me panting.Wacka-wacka-wacka. I may never walk again.LOL

Angel:On vacation too? Enjoy yourself.

I Muse Aloud:Classic Cuban music is based on some form of triple-time signature....Cuba....Cube..A..."three-dimensional"...CONSPIRACY????...I THINK NOT!!!!!

I am surprised clas would use my "famous" comment considering his distaste for the Jewish State of Israel. But, then again, it appears hes used to being a hypocrit.

clas, Go find something some useful comment by your hero

"Yaz-zer I'm Fat"

Just waiting for Archie Bunker at the gates, hes my date for the John Lee Hooker party.

Aussie - that was a good idea, YOU are coming over*. Great, that means I don' have to walk the streets of New York for while.

How did that bright idea enter your mind, the idea that you could move you fat ass and go over to Europe? That will broaden you views honey.
---

* Don't forget YGK, or what's left of him, now when Tycoondogs are running stray.

---

In the meantime Aussie, take one of the girls to chat, and go on with this ÓOMG OMEGODDD, you have TWO in Che? Already... ultrasexy... Oh Me God SirÓ

Or, after a second thought, couldn't you and your girls have your sex-games on the telephone line?

C

Aussie - take it to chat fuckhead. And you don't have to ÓsirÓ me, in Sweden people are pretty equal.

And isn't it beyond bedtime over at your place?

C

Aus: citrus rind mummy wraps? What the hell is that new job doing to ya? Kudos for the jackalope offer though...

Aja: I got a kick out of the Danfest parking story - you'd really go to such lengths to avoid a fee? CD is nearly in hand, end of month release party on the beach.

StevieD: fried okra. Oh, and catfish gumbo with fresh 'cats.

Roy: Neville Bros. next Thursday? Hutch?

Wormy: Having a watered down Cajunfest here this weekend, Radiators and Cowboy Mouth, et al, I'll have a dark beer and some craws for ya. Not the same as the real thing, though...
http://www.festeventsva.org/festevents/bayou/bayou_stage.htm

Runnin' up Rte. 11 in NC after an exhausting day, 2 am and John Lee Hooker comes on the radio....boom boom boom boom.....like an electric shock to the sleeping boogie synapsis. Hoo boy.

Fretless: (can't help but to think of Starless and Bible Black): Thanks for the fill-in on Bloodwyn.

Clas: You are correct sir. I'm not important at all. But you are to this Guest Book...in more ways than you can imagine. I have a good mind to fly the Brooklynite on the Concorde so the score could be settled. In true Parisian fashion.

Aus

Fretless - yeah, that's cool - ÓJaco could walk right into the control room, go directly to his fader and turn himself UP in that mix.Ó

(Ha! I know who would be the trouble child in that session)

And what about ÓCold Blue Steel and Sweet FireÓ?

C

SteeveDan - say, did Janamarie mention me? Good luck tonite anyway.

---

Don't be so humble Aussie, you're not that important. And besides, can't make it to Brooklyn. I am going to Paris.

C

Aus- I remember vinyl! Ton-Ton MacJenkins- wows. Duane is 17 on this recording? Loved it to death. Will not play any more. You got those dimples in your jaws. Down along the cove. Bay-bay! Tell me whatchyou gonna do? Wish I could help you, bro. Praises to others on your list (in other words, your taste). Blodwyn Pig- as I recall, Abrahms writes long liner notes... does not mention the names of his band mates! Can you imagine why that ego didn't "take" with a certain flute-playing lad? Ahead Rings Out is the one. There is a UK CD release "Live at the Lafayette" decently tinny recording you can't fix in the mix, accurately reproduced from the original low-fi version. You'll love it!

Clas- was about to suggest Troubled Child and there you are. Do you hear Walter's solo, right after the muted trumpet, modulate a whole step and lean into the volume pot, a slight refrain... yes?

hey, as long as we're imagining, Jaco could walk right into the control room, go directly to his fader and turn himself UP in that mix.

pleasant dreams

I just got back from the Steely Fan Band gig in Irvine, California. We played over 2 hours straight without a break. Here are the songs that we performed:

CRAZY HORSE JUNE 21,2001

1 FM
2 RIKKI DONÕT LOSE THAT NUMBER
3 BAD SNEAKERS
4 PRETZEL LOGIC
5 MONKEY IN YOUR SOUL
6 SIGN IN STRANGER
7 JACK OF SPEED
8 DEACON BLUES
9 REELINÕ IN THE YEARS
10 PEG
11 I GOT THE NEWS
12 DO IT AGAIN
13 BLACK COW
14 NIGHT BY NIGHT
15 GREEN EARRINGS
16 DONÕT TAKE ME ALIVE
17 JOSIE
18 KID CHARLEMAGNE
19 MY OLD SCHOOL
20 BODHISATTVA

It was tons of fun. We play tomorrow night in Covina, California at the Rude Dog. We will play these tunes and at least 5 additional ones.

By the way, are there any other Steely Dan cover bands that play anything from 2VN except the simple tune Cousin Dupree? If you know of any let me know. The Steely Fan Band has Jack Of Speed, What A Shame About Me, and Cousin Dupree in their repertoire. Other epic tunes under development are True Companion, Tomorrow's Girls, Century's End, Aja, and more.

Have a great Friday everyone.

Steveedan

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Jimbo: Yes. But before Stevie Ray, Mr. Jimi Hendrix. The greatest guitar player in our lifetime.

Aus

JOHN LEE HOOKER
1917-2001

Thank you for giving us the best in the blues.
Heaven has called you home so God can hear the blues.
You'll be missed by us, fans, musicians and anyone who knows
the blues.

STEVIE RAY, LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT SOME COMPANY NOW.

Neggie: INS= Immigration and Naturalisation Service

Speaking of business: JW Malibu: My cheque register shows the negotiable instrument as not being yet presented (stretching into several months now). This was for your fine efforts in bringing us the fine music manufactured by our own Guest Book denizens. No rubber ball bounces there Sir. Pleading to be made whole.

Aus

Digital Schi-mital: Recently I was away visiting a dear friend whom I studied law with. He has the most amazing collection of jazz on VINYL. I was so humbled. Even his compact disque collection was to die for.....gold carated discs...make such a huge difference in sonic integrity. But vinyl puts forth sounds not found on the silvery discs... truer bass, truer period. versus in your face digitally read 0101010101s. Ed Beatty spoke of the most amazing digital sounds from the "Two Against Nature" dvd (?)....he swore by it. Left me salivating. But, nothing beats pristine vinyl. My lord...I left with a list.

Steviedan: I would like to give you some business. Do you have the following on Vinyl and or gold Cds?: Miles Davis: All Stars Walkin', Panthalassa 1969-1974; Tribute to Jack Johnson; Cookin' with the Miles Davis Quintet; Workin' with the Miles Davis Quintet; Collectors' Items. Lee Morgan: Search for the New Land; Tom Cat; Live at the LightHouse (3 disc set). Wes Montgomery: Recorded Live @ TSUBO Berkley, California; Bloodwyn Pig: ? rings out (features Mick Abrahms from Jethre Tull); Ten Years After: Undead 1968; Savoy Brown: Raw Sienna 1970; Jethro Tull: This Was;
Rolling Stones: Cocksucker Blues; Johnny Jenkins: Ton-Ton Macoute!.

...staying up late....

Aus

Angel: O yessssss, Looking forward to jackelopes and wraps...

YGK versus Clas: My money's on Malc. First round, TKO.

Neggie: Sheer pleasure. And golly.... INS should HIRE you, right away.......the shields are set for kill. Border patrol would just loooove you.

NY Bill: How can you knock,, this mighty spite lock?

....and then, a nice relaxing hand of solitaire......

Aus

sico- and you're a pussy

Good evening all....

This may be my last post for a week. Going to Boston and hoping to connect with LP and NMN. I will miss the chat gang and of course, the rest of you.

Aussie: Gee, sounds like such a nice place to go. It must be at least 100 degrees in Arizona right now. Come to Boston. :-)

NYBill: I am just so impressed. A real post with real information that I did not know. Thanks for making my day.

Aja: Del Mar. Hmmmm. Will have to think about that. I do intend to try for the SD area this summer. I will see what I can do when I get back from vacation.

dif: Keep chat going in my absence.

Snakehips: Be ready tomorrow night.... :-)

LP: Nice to actually talk to you today. :-)

Blaise: You seem to be in good hands. Carry on....

Good weekend all.....

I'm ready to go....

@deaconbluessucks.com: and you're a pussy!

Aus- clASS is to much of a pussy to come to New York. YGK might beat the shit out of him! He's much safer hiding behind his computer.

clASS- You're a piece of shit!

Hello all my chat buddies, and to all the new folks I haven't met since I got a real job-welcome to St. Al's saloon!

cara mia-those sure were great memories, weren't they? Hopefully we'll be doing something similar next year. A little lightness of being, hmmmm, sounds very nice about now......

Lovebob has announced one of The Steely Damned's best shows: July 25 at the Del Mar Racetrack (IO, are you out there????????) This show is short (2 1/2 hours) but FREE, and takes place around sunset near the beach. Don't miss it, the atmosphere can't be beat!

Blaisie-I was only getting ticked because I answered your questions about tribute bands twice, yet you kept going on and on. I still have your pic (yes, THAT one) sweetie ;o)

Chere-grrrrlie, where are ya?

Oh man, don't let a wild Oklahoma boy steal your heart. I just hope he doesn't realize that he's done it.

And on that note, this GB seems to need a little love. With all the players here, I'm sure there's some Internet romance going on that could spice this place up. Don't keep it in chat now......

KD-I'll miss you.

Hi lp, Dr. Mu, wonderworm (who never wrote me back), gina, negative girl (who is a great chat buddy) Jim#, Hutch, cara mia, ole, ruby baby!

Off for a night swirl,

Aja

John Lee Hooker: major loss for us. Major gain for heaven. God is rockin' out now...no doubt about it. ah huh-huh-huh-huh.
Dying in his sleep....perfect. Painless. Bows and and Kudos. Asension...straight to angels plus.

Blaise: need to connect.

St Al: wowowow. You mustbe beeeeezzzzzzzee. Raring to go. And btw...I can only imagine, poor Blacksgirl must be feeling chequed out...my oh my will we ever see her again.

Fogel: Little excuse for zero contact. I've got killer seats for Yanks/Mets at Yankee Stadium...advise.

CaraMiaMarsha: heeeeey.

GB anons: @ and 2112...much to discuss.

LuckLess Pedestrian: spoke with Luke. Sentiment maintained.

Midnite Crusier: Have thorougly enjoyed the birding...Mashomack Preserve has got your name writte ALL over it...willing to host.

YGK Malc: May the force be with you. ALWAYS.

Clas: relegating to chat phantasies is phasinating. Yet, disturbing. Come to New York for surprises bar none.

Aja; Missing the hairbrush. Re-locate and utilise without mercy.

LadyBaySide: Now two reviews due. Tape plus Stealin' Dan....make me proud.

Chere: Estas en mis pensiamentos,,, que vive ELEGUA.

LisaG and DaddyG: Yankee game must occur. Hot dogs, beers and sunshine....step up to the plate. Just do it.

Enjoying summer night and thinking of total solar eclipse (best view in South AfriKKKA) plus Mars totally viewable from naked orbs in the sky. Higher consciousness??

FloriDavid: what goes on brother?

Aus

Don't Let Me In and Come Back Baby are probably my favorite pre-Dan recordings. The "Skunk" Baxter-produced group Sneaker recorded and released Don't Let Me In as a Top Twenty? hit about 1982.

The Becker and Tony LiPuma produced tracks on Blue Pacific are fabulous. Vincent's Ear and All I Need are among my favorite Walter B. solo production efforts. His attention to detail and choice fo mood and space are masterful on all 3 cuts from BP. How did he know that Livingston Taylor would mesh perfectly with Michael Franks on Crayon Sun - they both have whispery voices but different timbres...

Hey SD'ers...,

Go to WWW.Michaelfranks.com, scroll down to "On The Road",
click "Some Photos From The Scrap Book", scroll down to the
5th picture and tell me who you see...

Well we had an excellent chat last night. Mr.Hoops himself
showed up! It was a blast... Snakehips and Dif were there
usual outstanding selves... Lots of fun...

Has anyone else heard the early unreleased Fagan/Becker tune
"Don't Let Me In"? Man what a great song! Hard to believe that
it was never released but it was'nt the only one i guess (see
"The 2nd Arrangement").

Speaking of Michael Franks, it was Mr.Becker who produced the
song "Crayon Sun" from his "Blue Pacific" CD. What an outstanding
song it is. If you havent heard it, see if you can find it and
give it a listen...

NYBill

OK, who can get from Steely Dan to Elvis Costello in 3 degrees of separation?

extra credit pretzel logic - from Steely Dan to Huey Lewis and the News in 3 degrees of separation...

wilma?

Summer Solstice at Stonehenge.. getting ready for the Glastonbury Festival.
..very festive..http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~alien/henge/4.jpg

twas a good day to die, RIP JL Hooker.

Steely Wirled Peas
eLLe

First Stanley Mosk and now John Lee Hooker?

Bluesman John Lee Hooker Dies at 83
by KIM CURTIS
Associated Press Writer

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Veteran bluesman John Lee Hooker, whose foot stompin' and gravelly voice on songs like ''Boom Boom'' and ''Boogie Chillen'' electrified audiences and inspired generations of musicians, died Thursday. He was 83.

Hooker died of natural causes as he slept at his home in Los Altos, south of San Francisco, said his agent, Mike Kappus.

The veteran blues singer from the Mississippi Delta estimated he recorded more than 100 albums over nearly seven decades. He won a Grammy Award for a version of ''I'm In The Mood,'' was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1991 and received a Lifetime Achievement Award at last year's Grammys.

Through it all, Hooker's music remained hypnotic and unchanged -- his rich and sonorous voice, full of ancient hurt, coupled with a brooding, rhythmic guitar. He sang of loneliness and confusion. Neither polished nor urbane, his music was raw, primal emotion.

His distinctive sound influenced rock 'n' rollers as well as rhythm and blues musicians.

Among those whose music drew heavily on Hooker's style are Van Morrison, the Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton, Bruce Springsteen, Bonnie Raitt and ZZ Top. In 1961, the then-unknown Rolling Stones opened for him on a European tour; he also shared a bill that year with Bob Dylan at a club in New York.

Even in the '90s, when his fame was sealed and he was widely recognized as one of the grandfathers of pop music, Hooker remained a little in awe of his own success, telling The Times of London, ''People say I'm a genius but I don't know about that.''

Like many postwar bluesmen, Hooker got cheated by one fly-by-night record producer after another, who demanded exclusivity or didn't pay. Hooker fought back by recording with rival producers under a slew of different names: Texas Slim, John Lee Booker, John Lee Cocker, Delta John, Birmingham Sam and the Boogie Man, among others.

Hooker's popularity grew steadily as he rode the wave of rock in the '50s into the folk boom of the '60s. In 1980, he played a street musician in ''The Blues Brothers'' movie. In 1985, his songs were used in Steven Spielberg's film, ''The Color Purple.''

Hooker hit it big again in 1990 with his album ''The Healer,'' featuring duets with Carlos Santana, Raitt and Robert Cray. It sold 1.5 million copies and won him his first Grammy Award, for a duet with Raitt on ''I'm in the Mood.''

Several more albums followed, including one recorded to celebrate his 75th birthday, titled ''Chill Out.''

Born in Clarksdale, Miss., in 1917, Hooker was one of 11 children born to a Baptist minister and sharecropper who discouraged his son's musical bent.

His stepfather taught him to play guitar. By the time Hooker was a teen-ager, he was performing at local fish fries, dances and other occasions.

Hooker hit the road to perform by the age of 14. He worked odd jobs by day and played small bars at night in Memphis, Tenn., then Cincinnati and finally Detroit in 1943.

In Detroit, he was discovered and recorded his first hit, ''Boogie Chillen,'' in 1948.

''I don't know what a genius is,'' he told the London newspaper. ''I know there ain't no one ever sound like me, except maybe my stepfather. You hear all the kids trying to play like B.B. (King), and they ain't going to because, ooh, he's such a fine player and a very great man. But you never hear them even try and sound like John Lee Hooker.''

''All these years, I ain't done nothin' different,'' he added. ''I been doing the same things as in my younger days, when I was coming up, and now here I am, an old man, up there in the charts. And I say, well, what happened? Have they just thought up the real John Lee Hooker, is that it? And I think, well, I won't tell nobody else! I can't help but wonder what happened.''

In his later years, Hooker laid back and enjoyed his success. He recorded only occasionally; he posed for blue jeans and hard liquor ads. He played benefits from time to time, but mostly performed in small clubs, dropping in unannounced.

Mostly, though, he hung out with friends and family at his homes in Los Altos and Long Beach, watching baseball and enjoying a fleet of expensive cars.

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Elvis site sets "late summer" date for Joni tribute CD:
http://www.elvis-costello.com/homepage/upcoming.html#joni_mitchell

*CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP*

Some black shoe polish, for Canadians only! Black shoe polish, Cana .. nop sorry sir, today Canadians only!

Is it bird hunting season in the cyber-world? - that chirping is annoying...

Blaise--yes yes, it's all good : )
Luckless- I'm a Canadian citizen and I will always be.
Treason charge.. ruled out.I've already stated I am here (in the US) under a T1 status, provided by the N.A.F.T.A. Agreement.
now let me read you the Riot Act,,,,
; )

lp, I'm guilty of love in the third degree. Thought I'd something more to say

enemen:"Jeez, I haven't been to a Berman-esque show since Aussie dragged me to that nasty place in midtown"
LOL. And a good thing it was that you brought your heavy-duty sub-zero Alpine gloves so as to not dirty your hands from such a filthy dirty gentleman's establishment. Whoooooah Nellie!

LuckLess Pedestrian: Look out your window right now....I'm right by the CVS.

LadyBaySide: Hope the move went seamlessly. Advise.

In the new interim chat suite, someone has usurped my name...ergo I go in as "Jaundice" or "Trichinosis" or some other novel yet horrible ailment.

Off to Arizona tomorrow for the weekend: mud baths, cucumber slices on eyelids, citrus rind mummy wraps, full-on body massages, aromatherapy and all that other good stuff Babes drags your faithful narrator to. Jackelopes for Green Earrings, NY Bill, LadyBaySide, Angel, Dif, Jim # (that # stands for sharp-right?), Negative Girl and Chere voodo chile ju-ju priestess and positive vibe goddess supreme.

A special leg UuuuP! shout to Hoops...nice to catch up with you last night pal.

Also a big hello to the incomparable Sir Steviedan.

Everybody: Happy summer and have a Great weekend.

Aus

You know ... miss Lisa etc is much more enhancing if you make it Lisa Etcetera. Then you will be the GB's Carmen Elektra. Another 50$ if you insist on Electra. *hehe*

Oops. False start. Let's try again!

*CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP*

HankS, Blaise- I'm going to come back to football, Ohio and the 70s momentarily (that's pretty much my genetic code right there)...but I just had a Dan thought.

Has there ever been a Linda Fiorentino thread on this guestbook? She strikes me as VERY Dan indeed.

On your marks...get set...Linda Fiorentino.

you know, I had a lot on my plate here at my dog catcher desk and was only popping in and out, and my goodness, how things are different in here!

I will go to the aol site to be an associate member of Blaise's harem, not a full member though b, sorry, you know, the married thingy i have (oops, sorry ward).....hehehe, warren beatty.....can i come up to the kingdom with you and nmn?

as judge and jury at nmn's request:

kd is guilty of presumption that this place is a nuthouse without proper research

elle is guilty of treason to the great country of canada where i sincerely hope the usa develops better relations with under the bush administration

blaise is guilty of solicitation and possibly polygamy, but i need to go to las vegas city hall just to make sure of that

the time zone guru is guilty of violations of the Greenwich clause of eternal time

corpsy v is awol and is not wearing a uniform - court marshall her

clas is guilty of amnesia and assaulting a us marine in a bar of questionable character

w1p is guilty of forgetting his cue on the Time reference

anon2112 (not be confused with @) is guilty of stalking

@ is accused of aiding and abetting anon2112

lisa is guilty of kidnapping Lisa G

jenny is guilty of not fighting back - launch the assault

skully is guilty of not carrying proper identification

nmn is guilty of riding the social fence of being a new yorker and a bostonian, you can't do both, or your head will split open

steveedan is guilty of impersonation and so is steviedan

gina is guilty of posting under the influence of the fruit of the banyan tree
angel is guilty of crossing state lines without a passport, so if you think you want to visit cambridge, forget it

anybody is guilty if they are so sensitive to think they could be driven out of here

and everybody is guilty of not posting enough

see you

angel: Ah, another fan of 9 Chickweed Lane! I like 'em, particularly the Hallmarks of Felinity toons.

enimen: Nowwaitaminute, Jack Ham can't cover Rick Upchurch; a linebacker can't stay with him. That's bad coverage, you need Mel Blount to soften him up on the line, then bring over Glen Edwards to double up on him deep.

BTW, I can say I knew him when -- Upchurch was the star of the Northern Lakes League at Springfield High back when I was at my real old school near Toledo.

Most every time I read praise about Joni Mitchell's Blue, I haul out my vinyl copy and play it. Did it again last night. Still doesn't do it for me. Shrug...

Clas' ONLY redeeming quality is his painting and his perseverence.

There is NOTHING else there.

Clas, you should take the time you spend on the GB and dwvote it to your family, or maybe not, hmmm

Yes, I have something to say about Time -- great song by the Chambers Brothers.

W1P- haven't YOU got something to say about Time?
no, if you marquee that it looks rather funky, really.(html)
ok
ta ra
off to see the wizard
have a grand day.

carey is going to be wierd É so of course i can't wait!

still watching my copy of fogel's masterpiece video of the steely danmed at le bar bat. makes me feel like i'm back there.É hello ruby, come here often!

everyone i show it to (the video that is) is amazed!!!

gonnna miss LBB.

jk

ps. if you have film in your camera, take some shots and get the roll developed - won't you??!!

Yes enimen, but the plan also called for a female presence, remember? That role was to be filled by ||||||, who was later driven out of this place by the "stupid and offensive tone" of the current crowd. You got a girlfriend?
Btwe, just got the digest ,and it says it was Phil Upchurch covering Jack Ham in the seventies...

eLLe, my dear, my (former) fellow canadian, it's all good. Like someone once told me right here, "don't get your panties all in a bunch" over this.
Steely Peace

B

So Blaise, how does it feel to be ME?

I like you too enimen and yer so garsh darn cute!!! ; )

well gee Clas,(dumb dame expression-*eyesglaze over-tongue falls out of mouth, hangs to right side, forefinger touches chin*) how come I'm Canadian and live in Oregon?
OH OH wait.. you have to be rejected or ejected, from Canada..
THEN you can live in the US.... as if.. get a freakin life, buddy
( whoever wrote that..MODERATOR```woooo!)

LOL .. KIDDING..JUST
KIDDING.. don't get yer knickers in a knob..er KNOT.

No credit card, simply a yahoo ID, oh Holy Blaze.
Anyone interested, e me at the above.
I'll send invite.
Oh and Lisa, you're scheduled for Founder status. So please join.
We need those nude pics ASAP!

And anon2112, if you would join you will be the guest of honor.

If Jonies a Canadian, how come she's living in Beverly Hills?

C

well...Modesty Blaise can I call you that? no just kidding...
well.. Blaise.. that all depends on what you mean by that?
does that BC Bud thing donate an insult or a gesture of friendship?

yup! enimen yup

No, Chips, Lake Mephremagog in August is the plan.

screw Saffie sweetie, we need her innit dahling,
she can bloddy well come, that little rodent.

Blaise, that was positively Berman-esque.

Jeez, I haven't been to a Berman-esque show since Aussie dragged me to that nasty place in midtown.

Blaise, are things that bad? Meet for a beer in Burlington VT soon.

eLLe, o Sandra mia, it's always back to the Canadians for you, eh?

Clas don't ask me how you join that thing. I think you need a credit card. You'd have to ask anon2112dot, the founder, who claims to be a man (?!) now. Oh well, male or female, I'll take whatever I can get...

eLLe - Surely Joni Mitchell is Canadian. She's definitely worthy of the status, don't you think? You, on the other hand... just kidding... please do not tell your omniscient, omnipotent husband about this. I scared now. BC bud rules! How's that?

mnm - So you're looking for the football player that covered "Jack of Speed" Ham in the seventies now? Tough one indeed. Best of luck.

Miss Hathaway????? no..no dame..
bad sweetie dahling!!!!
LOL..nudge-nudge wink- wink a nod's as good a wink to a blind bat ; )
actually.. The Moon is in the Arabic manzil of Al Habk'ah!
and marked by the fixed star Meissa in Orion

It was a New Moon- ( that the black one) : ) at4h, 59m this morning.

The Summer Solstice took place at 11:35 pm ( at my co-ordinates)
at which time the Sun entered Crabba- the Crab-fish-(Cancer)

Current Planetary Hour: Mercury

anyways Happy Summer : )

I have to think about my posthumous reputation.

C

LISA! Couldn't you just PRETEND, I mean, before all this people... what a shame about me.

Anyway, thanx for saving my life that night. You ARE my SWEETIE!

And I'll come over to your place, we'll drink two bottles of Scotch and I promise, after that you will be able to fly me to the moon.

-

Blaise - sorry, that yahoo stuff aint working for me. I don't get the hang of it.

C

you know what "Jenny -wenny" tsk tsk (nice handle) NOT
you said:
"but I've always enjoyed reading what you've had to
say...the whole eLLe debacle aside.."

LOL!!!!!! screw em if they can't take a joke.
separate the men from the buoys!
bye bye KD...Lang was it? I was never clear on that one.

Hey eLLe-E-Mae...

Did ya hear? Full eclipse of the sun today....Thats when the "MOON" passes between earth and the sun. Think your neighbors will be "shocked"?....LOL.

ps..got the Boly on ice, Bubble is serving and Saffie says she doesn't want to go to Morroco with us.

BTW, I like(d) both eLLe and KD.

Is that allowed?

lp, can I get a ruling?

clas, my friend! the way i recall it, i was the one who kept you from getting pummeled by those marines- as you languidly contemplated the greater meaning of samantha's booty.

don't forget i have the video evidence.

Blaise - sure thing. Where is it and how do I get there?

C

W1P!!!... *air drums rim shot* --badda boom---baddabing

Steveedan - does Janamarie know about me? If not, please tell her.

C

right- sorry'bout that SteveeDan in Cali..I was doing a REAL quick scan when I saw David Wilcox mentioned.

Yeah Eubie, I wrote that one and like I said, all these people are just me loving myself in this twisted, perverted autoerotic way.
Now how come my Yahoo fan club has no members dammit? I didn't know the founder of a club could be seen as anything but a member...
That's not very flattering, an empty fan club. haha
Clas will you join my fan club over there?

I'd like to post something but I've been driven from the GB

fred?????

about Joni Mitchel, Blaise
she is Canadian as well ..with honors!!

(5/1/01)

It's official: Joni is among 14 artists to be honored
in Toronto later this year at Harbourfront Centre's
"World Leaders: A Festival of Creative Genius." To
demonstrate that "the true world leaders of today
are not politicians but creative artists," the
festival, which runs from September 24 to October
30, will feature hommages to 14 major artists; the
Joni Mitchell Hommage is scheduled for October
19. A festival website, launched today, includes
complete information and a special section for
each of the honored artists. Tickets for all festival
events will be available online June 4.

HARBOURFRONT "WORLD LEADERS"
FESTIVAL WEBSITE

No, it's not Morris Day here doing The Bird. It's your Time Zone Guru, here to celebrate two auspicious occasions: the unexpected appearance of the illustrious - yes lovely *and* talented - Danslut(tm), without whom yours truly could never have fullfilled his destiny as tzg...

and,

today, earthbound skygazers can celebrate a solstice, a new Moon, the closest approach of planet Mars since 1988 ... oh yes, and a total eclipse of the Sun, the first total solar eclipse of the third millennium. Of course, to see the full eclipse you had to be in southern Africa and Madagascar. Did any lurker/posters down in them there parts check it out? Btw, Madagascar is your tzg's favorite home country when ever he's forced to choose in Risk.

Of course, yesterday was 6/"20/01", a number that won't be equaled in signifigance for 366 days, or 6/"20/02"... ok, so I don't really have a lot to say as tzg. However, I did want to tell lp that we tzg's were "bemused" (a word not used enough, imho) by the Voyager series finale. Why is it they always pull out the ol' alternate or parallel timelines when they write themselves into a corner? Theorectically then, there could be "billions and billions" of alternate Voyagers out there; who's to say Janeway brought the right one back? What if 30 years after that Voyager got back, another one got "home"? Or if she brought back a Voyager that had been slightly altered, making them completely incompatible for life on Earth, or worse, causing the rest of the planet to have an extreme allergic reaction? (Actually, that would be a great sequel) Anyway, that's why we're taught first thing at the TZG Conservatory not to go mixing parellel timelines like you're some mad alchemist/bartender who's been sampling the stock. Bemused.

Well, your tzg is operating on 2 hours sleep (yep, sure felt like the shortest night if the year), so I's due for a siesta. Will check back later to see if this was coherent.

Big shipwhacked shoutout.

Remember, time not only flies, it crawls, heals, is on my side, won't let me, falls wanking to the floor, has come today, owns us all, is money, is a'waitin', is of the essence, is like a river, may change me, waits for no one...

"...the clock is close at hand."

your tzg

So Blaise has a fan club.
Isn't the gb his fanclub?

Who wrote that Blaiser Runaway tune?
Blaise? One of his adoring fan club?

Come to Paris sugarpie! Cour de Sac, Montmartre, Seine, Point Neuf (9), we could stand at Mona Lisa all day at the Louvre. Champs Elajses, the Eiffel Tower, The Arc of a Diver etc etc...

What do you say? Let me know in advance so I can arrange a small konkubin-room at the top of the stairs at Lafayette! Sigh!

C

Rick Upchurch

http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/blazerrougeakablaisefanclub

Hi eLLe --

I am the Steve from Los Angeles, CA who plays from time to time with Steely Dan cover bands for fun. My guestbook handle is Steveedan.

The other Steve is from Raleigh, NC. His guestbook handle is stevie dan, and he is considered, both by myself and the rest of the GB-ers to be the original owner of the Stevie Dan handle.

Steve from NC told me about a guy from Singapore who has the handle SteV Dan, or something like that, so this stuff can get a bit confusing. Isn't that part of the fun? Or course it is.

Hopefully I'll be able to catch up with you in chat some time soon.

Glad to be of service.

Steveedan (Interum MFM for the SFB)

COUNTERWEIGHT: www.steelyfanband.com

Whoever wrote "Blaise Runaway", great shit!

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LISA! Undersea by rail! I'll come and get you, you can always be safe with me, remember New Orleans when I protected you and SunnySam from those filthy, aggressive Danish marines? I knocked them down, 12 (twelve) very Danish stupid people. Sailors.

Ptui!

Yeah, next time it'll be USA, and for Gods sake, I promise, no fucked up words on the plane. One night in Cincinnati is one too many.

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Haven't heard "Carey". Aint digging Jonis early folksongs-albums.

"Trouble Child" would be a more appropiate song to sing for Fagen. Or Becker could do "Wild things run fast" (well, not THAT fast these days).

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A Blaise Fan-club. Consider me as a member. Or is just for the girls?

C

PS/ Gina, come to Paris, it's close to your place. Week 32.

Acc. to npr.org, the Jack of Speed cut was performed by Phil Upchurch. Amazon says it's on his new album, "Tell the Truth!"

What's Upchurch's story? I remember him playing on some of George Benson's popular 1980-ish records..."Welcome to LA" maybe? Did he also play with Grover Washington Jr.? Someone out there must know more than I do.

There was a running back named Upchurch who played for University of Minnesota and then the Broncos (I think). Just to throw you off the scent...

Auntie En

Howard-
Do you know which guitarist has done a instrumental cover of Jack of Speed? I heard about 20 seconds in a break on National Public Radio this morning. Kind of "new" jazz version, but nice voicings and arrangement.

eLLe from Oregon, rejected, ejected and dejected from Canada:

You are really addressing stevie dan not steveedan. I know it's confusing and you are forgiven this time.
carry on...

YO SteveeDan..my cousin is David Wilcox' manager : )
he has been for years. He started out as Honey Moon Suits' sound tech. Remember them from the 80's? They had one of the first video's on Much Music/Canada's MTV of the girl going over Niagara Falls?

David Wilcox- the Rodney Dangerfield of Rock! hehheee funny , funny man!

lurkdome - it's similiar to the custerdome
only you don't get banged up as much.

hats off to Lisa, Jenny Wenny and 2112.
Can I be a card carrying member of the blaise fan club?

this Joni Mitchell tribute sounds interesting, any word on the release date? Info on other musicians along with Don and Walt?

time and youthful hyperconsumption of cholesterol have taken a toll on the memory - the Dixie Queen is in Winterville, next to Ayden, I think...

Hello one and all --

The Steely Fan Band will be playing tonight at the Crazy Horse Steak House, near the Irvine Spectrum at 8:30 PM. The address is 71 Fortune Drive, (949) 585-9000. The show begins at 8:30 PM.
Tomorrow night (Friday) the Steely Fan Band will be at the Rude Dog located at 114 N. Citrus in Covina at 9:30 PM. The show begins at 9:30 PM.

Additional details are available on the band's website: www.steelyfanband.com , or directly from each venue.

There are no other bands sharing the bill with the SFB on either night. Hours and hours of live Steely Dan music will be played and the bars are totally stocked. Included in the official announcement of these gigs by Mr. Sticks is a Ò2 for 1Ó coupon.

Anyone near these venues (or willing to travel) please come and check the band out. It would be great to have you there.

Steveedan (MF Maestro for the Steely Fan Band)

StevieDan: Is Venter's the BBQ place that's a big shack in the woods off Rte 43 near the hospital (it's been 20 years)? You bet, I grew up about 5 miles away. Don't tell me you've had the fried sWimp at the Dixie Queen in Ayden, too...

more 90s: Carolina boys Ben Folds Five and Squirrel Nut Zippers, Neil Finn (as a solo artist), Foo Fighters, Diana Krall (just for the album covers alone), Brian McKnight, Gin Blossom's first album, Joshua Redman...

message me you beeeeeeooooootchhhhh!!!!!!!!

ENOUGH, ENOUGH.

This is the final time that I have to make my 90's musical point.

When I mention the kind of hip hop that I don't like I mean people like: Sisqo, Destiny's Child and any band that sounds packaged by super producers and filled with more sex and less musical pump.

I'm more into old school acts like Run DMC, Will Smith, Whodini, LL
Cool J, Fat Boys, Salt N' Pepa, UTFO, and the Beastie Boys.

THERE, I'M DONE MENTIONING MY LIKES NOW QUIT NITPICKING
OKAY? OKAY!

Whew, gotta cut down on the caffeine. :)

you sure you live in Montreal and not somewhere near Salt Lake City or anywhere near Utah, Blaise??

Plain and simple Chips. I AM lisa, jennywenny, Gina AND even lp. Gotcha. :o)

B

there hasn't been a uluating anon in posts now, doesn't it feel grand to have this place back on its optimistic positive roots ... even though KD left, Dandom Slut re-appeared for a flash -but we have this alert jjflash to compensate for any loss- and even lisa etc decided to gimmick a mimmicked style, so good you remembered you have one lisa and decided not to leave it in the humid dungeons ... what's a voice if it's smothered in silence, voices are there to be heard ...

JW Malibu is doing fine, i sent him an email to try and get him to show his surfing moves in the cool shadow of the Banyan Trees again ... he's working on a live gig now and i hope you pull it off, JW if you're lurksurfing ... there must be enough GB-ers in the area to come check you out once it's a done deal :-))

and as far as the Blaise Fan Club is concerned, hm, i think anon 2112 should come forward and take credit where credit is due, indeed a fine choice to put it in the Book Of Liars since the people over there do connect a great deal via poetry. regarding tuning into webstations or actual radio, tuning in to people from different worlds and cultures also bring forth knowledge and music and lifestyles to tickle the senses to show a little courage and try something new for a refreshing change!

isn't it time to hear of the other hemisphere again? some Singapore news or respons to the Carey tribute? King Richard and his kangaroos, PjPoz if i recall right, mr Chow ofcourse and if there are any New Zealanders passing by in flight here, you folks have pretty good apples overthere, Braeburn and Fiji, they're the best!!

Banyan Tree Surf's Up For The Day Bow,
G.

You know these anon's aren't so bad, when they're funny.....

couldn't resist
to the tune of Janie Runaway

It must have been my lucky thursday
at St Al's Sign in Strange
before the guestbook went up in fire
they got a kick of something deranged

Up in Quebec the future looked certain to fall
Now here's the wonderkid of Montreal

Who makes the guestbook interesting?
rescues a dreary workday
who makes me feel like posting again
darling it's you... Blaiser runaway

Lets grab a website of Steely delusion
or some hearty pantomine
discussing lyrics or defrauding imposters
another twist - blazerian kind

you see the rouge blaiser is soft inside
but he's never one to just go along for the ride

who makes the guestbook interesting
rescues a dreary chat room
why do I feel like blushing again
darling it's you... blaiser runaway

let's plan a weekend of steely diversion
and meet at St Al's place
the Rouge one will captivate us
and keep at bay those basket case
irritating one's who get under one's skin
looks like Blaise has laid a nice diversion

who has an admiration society?
ties in knots women's panties?
who gets to defend his opinion again
darling it's you Blaiser runaway

so does that mean that the pic you sent me of your immense genitals was in actuality the washington monument?

lisa - Indeed one can dream. Although it's only fair at this point that you were finally fed the truth. I'm really an hunchback elf with lots of hair all over, a drooling troll. Like tones said, a repulsive, babbling Yoda with teeth missing and an unwarranted attitude. I have creeping syphillis and crabs, even a bad case of chronic buccal herpes. I am currently wanted by police for gross exposure in the local subway system. And I write in English to cover up my poor French.
Worst thing is, it's all true.
Clas, wormy, etc..., on the other hand... fine, fine gentlemen.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/06/20/france.mother/index.html

Good morning all....

Jimbo: About Rosie Vela looking 22, that was exactly what I wondered, How old is she? She looks great!

Good thread on great groups of the 90's. It just brings up the bigger issue that St. Al touched on, the fragmenting of radio stations. A lot of the time during that time I ended up on stations that were programming for women. Sort of medium easy listening. One happened to be the last Gene Autrey owned stations KSCA. Their mix was actually quite good, Sheryl Crow, Alanis Morissett, Paula Cole, Brian Setzer Orchestra, Counting Crows, etc. I actually enjoyed listening, but most of the heavy metal sounds were absent, which is definitely a part of music I like. My favorite thing about that particular station is when Autrey decided to sell the station, the DJ's kept playing "Don't Take Me Alive" constantly (so it seemed to me) during the final month of broadcast. I remember that as my radio station listening highlight. Even then I sort of knew....
I have almost no exposure to new music via radio anymore and that is one of the only things I don't like about commuting by train. No way am I going to listen to radio on headset, yuck!

St. Al: Any chance you will connect Banyan Tree Radio for the 56K modem crowd? I keep asking. Someday I intend to hear String Cheese Incident. :-)

LP: 2 days and counting. Wahoo!

Good day all....

Luckless Pedestrian....

wormtom- it's nice to see you around again too!

steviedan- ever check out ma dip's in chapel hill for soul food extraordinaire? oleander and i met there once for dinner and it was da bomb.

clas- glad to know i'm still your girl- but unless i can take that super highway to paris, i won't be able to make it. fear of flying and all keeps me grounded. aren't you due for another vacation soon? this time, no f words on the plane, okay?

jenny- must be something in the water. 2112's nod to blaise was a good attempt at mimicking my style as well. but i have to warn you: blaise is a highly sought after commodity (potentially a heart breaker, too). and although he would deny it, i bet his leo is LOVING all this admiration.

ladies, shall we initiate a blaise fan club?

fretless- thank you, whoever ye may be.

blaise

indeed having a live souvenir from the tour would be nice
Wonder if Don and Walt view it as oversaturation or if things are not up to their standards of perfection?

KInd of depends on just how quickl y the followup albums occur

the Stones used to put out a studio album and a tour live album every 3 - 5 years to keep the coffers filled from a new generation of kids. The music there wasn't exactly compelling but people were buying it in droves. Kind of like Disney's retread of old classic animated movies for children. At least the Dan haven't been on the nostalgia trip

a low profile website only live release would be nice

one can dream

wt

Wormtom - I like that live version a whole lot, especially the drum break segment at the end, a solid performance by Lawson.
Leonhart's trumpet work on the verses of Royal Scam is nice too.
Many great performances are immortalized this way. Unfortunately, it seems that most boots from last year were recorded from the audience. Now imagine a compilation of those handled by the likes of Nichols, Scheiner & co and measure the extent of our loss.

this morning on the way in to work (5:55 cst)I heard National Public Radio play a muzac version of Jack of Speed as a segue. More than likely this will be repeated just before the 8 oclock hour (9 est) for those truly curious

blaise - Leonard Cohen just makes up for the Celine factor

yesterday I received live recordings of the San Diego and Shoreline 00 shows. Both are a bit compressed, especially San Diego show. Interesting that early on in the tour the old war horse Do It Again was dragged out, the highlight was hearing West Of Hollywood with Bob Sheppard handling the sax work.

Ultimate Joni tribute? - Jennifer Warnes "Big Noise New York"
First time I heard that was in an audio store years ago. Some of her lilting phrasings are so Joni fied, I thought it was miss Mitchell herself. As other songs on the album don't really reflect this singing style, one wonders if Donald (who penned the tune) coaxed her into singing it in that manner

breaking like the waves in Malibu

wt

Jen - Did you say something?

(hehe, an old shun trick there... no really, you guys are trying to drive me nuts, gaslight me here, right? Cut it out!)

Yes, Lara Fabian is another local carbon cutout soul with a great set of pipes. Hate it but I still prefer her anyday to what's her face, that other local screamer who shamelessly usurps the identity of one of the greatest French writers of the XXth century by claiming to be THE Celine for the history books? That one must be stopped by all means, not only for the benefit of historical accuracy but also for that of our eardrums, ammo.
Montreal offers much better: Tea Party, Bran Van 3000, Jean Leloup, UZEB, Gino Vanelli, Leonard Cohen, Moist, etc...
From Canada in the nineties, I also liked some Tragically Hip, Sloan, sure Alanis, Blue Rodeo...
StAl - No doubt you can dig some good things out of the recent past but it doesn't really compare to the late sixties- early 70s in terms of originality. In fact, most of these acts people now list here merely reproduce the old tricks from that era and add very little new to the art form itself. You get a strong sense of Deja Vu in most.

Jimbo man!

What ARE you talking about? Isn't Hip-Hop "real musician ship"? Would you care to explain? Have you never heard, for example, the Roots? Great music.

C

PS/ And StAl, you couldn't jump on my ass even if you'd like it.

Gina! You're welcome! Come to Paris!

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W1P - was Bob driven out of this place? So now are you and that other San Diego-citizen doing his talk? And the only time Bob dares coming back to this place is when he's promoting his New York gigs?

If there was such thing as "being driven out of this place by someone", there would hardly be anyone left in this room.

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StAl - cliquism.

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Jenny - I was refering to the Dallas-soap, JR and his un-natural big white teeth. Or Bobbys or mama Ellas or Pam's or Svollens etc etc.

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Howard - no, I think the chords, the #5, is pretty right, play and listen.

C

kd... absurd. if you come through raleigh, look me up. steve barbour in the book, just like that...

roy, do you think kd could put some collards on that veggie pie ? mu has been to parker's ? man, i nearly died there several times in college. if you say you've also been to venter's outside greenville, then i'll kiss your ass. country soul food not of this planet and maybe not of human origin. sweet potato biscuits a little TOO good.

i would have liked to hear the boys do something from the mingus album. has anyone confirmed other participants ? a couple not mentioned previously (i think): lisa loeb & david wilcox.

epitath:

"is that my father mowin' the lawn ?

come on daddy, get in let's go."

connoted non-religiously but could be interpreted as "the father" for nervous relatives concerned about one's afterlife status...

Name: W1P
wch1ispink@aol.com
Location: LA, CA
Date: Wednesday, June 20, 19101 at 22:52:27
Comments:

Jimbo, I saw Shannon Curfman about 18 months ago in Ft. Lauderdale opening for Mellencamp. I had no idea she was 14 until I John brought her on stage to sing Pink Houses and he was feeding her the words in her ear during the song. Great humor.

But wait, there's more.

I also like Sheryl Crow, Aimee Mann, Crash Test Dummies,
Barenaked Ladies, 10000 Maniacs and Natalie Merchant.

BUT NO EMINEM.

That's who I like from the 90's. The problem I have with that decade is that the pop and hip hop field tend to overshadow
some of the real musician ship. They put aside musicianship
for vocal acrobatics, and super producer packages like
O TOWN and C&C Music Factory.

I hope that clears the confusion about my musical tastes.

Saw Storytellers just tonight. ELO was on and yes, the backup vocalist was Rosie Vela. How old is she? She looks more like she's 22. She's gotta be in her 40's. But she does look good.

To M (Carey) On my last post, all I was doing is to provide oneof the final insults to these pop artists before they fade into obscurity.

There are a lot of musicians i like from the 90's:
Dave Matthews Band, Duncan Sheik, Sarah McLachlan, Billie Myers,
Counting Crows, Goo Goo Dolls, Lenny Kravitz, Everlast,
Fine Young Criminals, Will Smith, Diana Krall, AJ Croce
Shannon Curfman,Inner Circle, Gaelic Storm, Rusted Root
and Keb Mo

Good evening all....

Good to see NYBill posting again today. Good job. Glad to see dif and Paige in chat this evening, too. Thanks guys.

Blaise: Thanks for the copy on Joni's song. It makes it official. 6 days to do the whole thing, I wonder what that means? Are they getting faster, or don't they care? Burning question of the day.

Cara Mia: You made this morning's 9 Chickweed Lane comic. They mention Cara Mia. :-)

Back to packing....

In a Gladstone bag....

hey-cyn-Daffney-Duck?
what do yah think...dame?
yay or nay?
LOL
I say yay.

Love By Grace
Perdere L'Amore
I Will Love Again
You're Not From Here
Je Suis Malade
I Am Who I Am
Caruso
Yeliel (My Angel)
Quedate
Adagio
Broken Vow

Okay...just a few notes...

First, and defintely foremost....2112: LOVE the poem...don't know who you are, but I could have written every word myself...really...*winks* to Blaiser...(okay, so maybe I've had the teeniest of tiniest of crushes on you for awhile, lol...hmmm, like that was really difficult to figure out, lol. At least I have no problem admitting it! Huh? That says something, eh? lol, just kidding...you're a peach...really...)

angel: Gee? You dig the Dan?? Never would have guessed, this being a Dan site and all...WOW! I DIG THE DAN TOO!!! Imagine that...but I ALSO dig others, Jeff Lynne (ELO) being one...thanks for your input...

Clas: Hey, just out of curiousity, what's a "Dallas-smile"?? I'm here, in Dallas, and not familiar with it...maybe I should be...

Midnite: Thanks for the tip about VH1...I will defintely be on the look out for it...

Oh and hello's to Jim# (let me hear from you man!!) and dano (still think you're the coolest, chum!)

And the same ol' same ol's, toneser & snakie, love you both bunches and tons...(and toneser, yes, btw, I did talk with snakes...thanks for being concerned.)

*special nod to KD*...we've never really spoken directly to each other, but, since you will no longer be gracing our pages around here, just thought I'd put in my 2 cents about your departure...okay...I think you've been a WONDERFUL addition to these trees and I find it very discouraging that you're choosing to leave...I, myself, have only been around for less than a year, but I've always enjoyed your posts. I truly have. I've never responded to you directly, but I've always enjoyed reading what you've had to say...the whole eLLe debacle aside...I will miss seeing you here...I will...but I have to say, I've been dis-allusioned myself a bit around here....which has lead to my, some would say preferred, less frequent postings...plus, you're like right in my age range and I related to you well in that respect...anyway, do well my brother...it was very nice...

*kisses and hugs* to all...

jenny

Cyn, if you surf the waves of allmusic.com and whisper lara fabian in the mirror a whole lara world opens. I can't be of any help for not having heard the song, but if you click on the titles of her albums the tracks appear and maybe, just maybe a few bells will ring.

She is a Belgian singer who moved to Montreal.
Interesting resumŽ!

Shift is over. Flying right out of here,

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Cyn, ha... never mind

I tip my hat to you Howard,,,I had always thought she was saying "Mantalonya" moon. there is also a Am. Naval Station about 2 hrs from Marbella...hence maybe thats where the "Spain" rumour started.The are prehistoric caves not from from the either near an extrodinary town called Arcos.Lots of hippies passed thru this "area" during their backpacking through Europe days.I guess the wind from Africa towards Crete came from Algiers and not Morroco. My sister who was a huge Joni fan probably started this whole Spain rumour.....LOL. She would tell me stuff like that so she could watch me tell others and be called a liar....haha. But hey, what are big sisters for? She has now been dead for 21 yrs....and its still happening. I'm sure shes laughing her ass off at me...and saying "Gotcha again!"

I watched part of a PBS special last week and heard a most wonderful songtress named Lara Fabian. I gather from some internet surfing that she is compared to Celine Dion(not a fav. of mine). But during she sang one of the best songs I have heard in a long time. I think she was singing in either Spanish or Portugese. I would really love to find out the name of this song if anyone here knows anything about her.The special was call'From Lara with love'. Its seemed this song sounded like a "ballad".

Thanks for any info,

Buffy (I got some garlic) Slayer

neil!

Chris Potter is nominated for the Bird Award 2001 which this year will only be one prize and not like before a 3 category one. He will play with the same musicians as on the CD, only Clarence Penn on drums.
He's on for Saturday and it happens so Jane Monheit scheduled before him, in another hall but still ... very curious since Steviedan and the Stranger speak with praise ...
Ouch. How can i now not go??

Geez eLLe, why didn't you bring up the moles sooner? Love those!
Nothing more fun then to critter along with them in the mud and dirt, blind as a bat. Saw a baby-mole once halfway stuck out of the ground, swaying like Stevie Wonder in the 80's singing songs i'd rather not repeat ..

Okay. Gonna take that hammer and hit me on me head, the Young Ones rule!
Besides Dano & TW Man: mister Michael McDonald is touring in the UK, october, Glasgow, Birmingham, London etc. He might even step on mainland soil here, either way, very tempting to go and hear him strut his stuff!!

Changing time zones Bow,
G.

Elvira, If you are out there...

Do one of 2 things:

A)Email Walter at ODP

If no response...

B) Email me!

Q!

This one gets paid hommage a whole lot this year, a different one slated for october in Toronto:

http://www.worldleadersfestival.com/events/hommages/mitchell.html

b

well, word on the street is that someone's couch pahdata wifey named Elvira
; )
found "the" tapes in the couch- probably in a mound of bon-bon wrappers...
but i don't know the price of tea today , also the Queen of Camenbert is having a nap.

so yeah if you do this-> :Q
that could be a spliff or a cig hangin out yah mouth there Q..
or..OK! maybe not
an zoh Gina you zee, zere are many laughs to be had "chatting" or playing with zee people ov zee world, no? tsk tsk

sweetie dahling :D xx

HEY MC- I saw MANY teredactils flying around recently..
teradactils of course being Blue Herons , heh heh!!!
and BONUS, I just found the show I used to watch every weeknight in Canada, on one of my AT&T Broadband channels called Science Discovery..or Discovery.Ca -nada.
and I was amused to see this story about moles. We have a big problem with them here. They dig up air holes all over people's yards and leave big messes. Anyways a scientist in Israel just discovered that because most of these critters are blind..well how do they get around? Well they have an internal compass. Which is located in the bones in the nose. So if they where pointing North aligned with the Earths Magnetic North.. they would have a "feeling" in there nose..apparently. They tested this by putting the moles in mases and screwing up the magnetic forces with magnets ..and this made the moles have great difficulty navigating. So this is how they think some of the whales that "travel"the globe, navigate as well.

the site is www.discovery.ca
I went there and clicked on animals at the top and didn't see this story but it has to be there somewhere..I will look later tonight when I have more time...but lots of stuff you might like there..
cheers
eLle

It was only supposed to eat cd's by boy groups and blond teenage girl singers. It... got away from us.

Sorry.

so we weren't clinging to rumors, hm, neat, very neat!
any word on other musicians in the tribute then?
have just been beaten in yahoo games by a 12-year old, playing Dots. amazing this online experience, you get to play all kinds of games with people all over the globe, complete strangers, so endearing, the 12-year old asking me asl as in age-sex-location after she explained it to me .. i filled in 37/f/nl and then she said, "oh, wow, you are old" and then softened the blow "well older than me that is" LOL LOL
sigh. i love the oysterworld.

now off to get some sleep. i'm counting on Blaise to find all the info there is to get on SD's Carey ...?

bye bye!
G.

SSssshhhhhhh don't tell anyone.

Roger Nichols
Moderator
Posts: 1041
Registered: Dec 1999
posted 06-06-2001 07:43 AM

Warner Bros is putting out a Joni Mitchell tribute album. A bunch of different artists each did a Joni Mitchell song. Steely Dan did "Cary" from the blue album.

Elliott Scheiner cut the track before I got to New York. I did the overdubs, flying and mixing. Total 6 days including the tracking day.

Fastest Steely Dan song ever.

Don't tell anyone!

Name Withheld

source: http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002037.html

Tape Hunter,

I haven't read the GB in a little while, was there a reference to the 24 track masters for "Aja" and "Black Cow" on the GB recently?

There is a big issue relating to those exact missing tapes.

Q

No clue the title of Joni's first album was on the cover, not easy to decipher but when I had a cadet look things up it became chrystal clear! Not bad for intercepting an illegal drop of Bad Habits in Conjunction Valley, they sure have good taste when it comes to music and they are willing to trade anything if it will get them off Capitano Hook, hehe. Thank you cadet Buffy for slaying the charms of a diamond snake!

I hereby restore missy Mouth eLLe into semi-perpetual cadethood, assigned to C.H.A.T. where the password will be "sweetie dahling" until further notice.

The fungus eating away CD's is ofcourse our most innovative weapon and has been trained to eat away everything besides the Steely Dan CD's and those of allied forces. For the purpose of entertainment the fungi were also trained to do the Hokey Pokey and scat Tango Charlie Alpha at a Blue Moon's day.

Corpsy V, reporting from Crete where she and her cadets reside after the Killer Wind Days Operation in Spain,

Corpsy V
clicking red boots in the wind

Greetings Y'all...,

Y'know, it seems to MrBill that with all this guestbook strife,
certain important things are being forgotten...
Certain things, like the reasons why we are all here in the first
place, are being lost amidst the din of arguments and such.
This causes much upset and gives MrBill a bad head and so,
without pointing any fingers, lets just agree to remember that
we are here to honor the legacy of a couple of guys who are...,
well who are..., who are a couple of strange guys o.k. but
lets remember em' anyway o.k? Lets remember em' for the great
sounds they gave us and forget about the other stuff o.k.?
That's the only thing that matters in the end. And so I leave
you with the words of another great songwriter who also
would'nt give me the time of day, but i still dig em.

"She said, We rolled that Camaro like a cowboys cigarette
out on the highway
in a puddle of beer
That's just about how close to death you gonna get
till the only thing standin'
is fear.

Singin' oh darlin, faces will change
the names of the innocent
the story at 5...
oh darlin', places get strange
but only the song survives...

Stay tuned for SD Philosopy Part 2, where we will discuss the
deeper meaning of fixing a stopped-up sink...

Thank You,
NYBill

Cyn: I think Joni wrote "Carey" while staying in Crete. I've been to Matalla, on the south coast of Crete ("under the Matalla moon" as the song goes) and saw the caves where Joni and many hippies of the time stayed.

The place is a real tourist trap now - shame. And no, I didn't find the mermaid cafe, though I did look for it!

cara-mia: Joni's "Offnight backstreet" is an inspired suggestion for Donald to sing! Joni singing "Caves of altamira" would also be a winner.

I already had some doubts about D+W doing Carey - now I'm really starting to wonder if this track was mentioned as a joke. Can't wait to hear the result, whatever track!

Howard

buffy - yes i heard that rendition of natalie's "son of a preacherman" and the live version i have on a burned cd she missed a note, and, she really screwed up "but not for me" live too which i have a burned cd of as well - i actually am a big fan of natalie's since her days playing in fredonia new york where my cousin bartended at the time - her voice is intriguing though technically limited, she pulls together a great band 10,000 period and beyond), her writing is phenomenal and complex, and i love the songs she has chosen to cover too, hence my thought she would make a good cover artist for joni

other RIP epitaphs - good thread, little ms. anon:
"this is the ditch out in the valley that they dug just for me"
and/or
"a small reception just for me"

KD - don't go, i miss your posts!

nmn, are we set for next week with mark and angel or what?

so where's the sign-up for the blaise fan club? i'll be an associate member, thanks - lol b ;)

oh yeah, you know, you looka like-a man
was your name big man Ad Nauseum, what you think..don forgeh deek quon

cray zee - nice deadbeat dan tombstone sayings

I'll add

11) no flies on me
12) one more expensive kiss off

D&W

KD- I find it curious that you would say goodbye right after Dandom Slut(tm)'s first post in forever. If she's back, I'm tuning in. She makes the traffic interesting.

But, either way, good luck to you. I will miss your posts.

IGY is my least favorite from W&W's oeurve. It just is.

Ad nauseum.

hey there Cyn dame : )
yes, that's much like the Chinooks that come from the Pacific and blow over the Rockies to Alberta in the winter and the temperature and of course also the air pressure rises quickly causing all kinds of "madness"
Chinook-meaning "winds of madness"
but I think I've mentioned this before, oh well. ;)

speaking of ghosts I love this:
I said babe you look delicious
and you're standing very close
But, like, this is Lower Broadway
and you're talking to a ghost.

ah yes and now for your enjoyment..Elizabethan Insults
enjoy..
Combine one word from each of the three columns below, prefaced
> with "Thou":
> Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
>
> artless base-court apple-john
> bawdy bat-fowling baggage
> beslubbering beef-witted barnacle
> bootless beetle-headed bladder
> churlish boil-brained boar-pig
> cockered clapper-clawed bugbear
> clouted clay-brained bum-bailey
> craven common-kissing canker-blossom
> currish crook-pated clack-dish
> dankish dismal-dreaming clotpole
> dissembling dizzy-eyed coxcomb
> droning doghearted codpiece
> errant dread-bolted death-token
> fawning earth-vexing dewberry
> fobbing elf-skinned flap-dragon
> froward fat-kidneyed flax-wench
> frothy fen-sucked flirt-gill
> gleeking flap-mouthed foot-licker
> goatish fly-bitten fustilarian
> gorbellied folly-fallen giglet
> impertinent fool-born gudgeon
> infectious full-gorged haggard
> jarring guts-griping harpy
> loggerheaded half-faced hedge-pig
> lumpish hasty-witted horn-beast
> mammering hedge-born hugger-mugger
> mangled hell-hated jolthead
> mewling idle-headed lewdster
> paunchy ill-breeding lout
> pribbling ill-nurtured maggot-pie
> puking knotty-pated malt-worm
> puny milk-livered mammet
> quailing motley-minded measle
> rank onion-eyed minnow
> reeky plume-plucked miscreant
> roguish pottle-deep moldwarp
> ruttish pox-marked mumble-news
> saucy reeling-ripe nut-hook
> spleeny rough-hewn pigeon-egg
> spongy rude-growing pignut
> surly rump-fed puttock
> tottering shard-borne pumpion
> unmuzzled sheep-biting ratsbane
> vain spur-galled scut
> venomed swag-bellied skainsmate
> villainous tardy-gaited strumpet
> warped tickle-brained varlet
> wayward toad-spotted vassal
> weedy urchin-snouted whey-face
> yeasty weather-bitten wagtail
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^| mal6315@cs.rit.edu

Hi all
Long time no post

dano, how's it hangin' mate

This place has changed a lot lately - sheesh, as chips would say.

Fave CD on player at present; Ween; chocolate and cheese - weird fuckers

See yas
Peace
Al

Natalie Merchants "Son of a Preacherman" will stop any thoughts of those who thinks she has no range.

Last week while channel surfing I happened upon one of the country music stations. They were having an award show of some kind, and Faith Hill was presenting a special award to Vince Gill. They went on to talk about Gill's many accomplishments in the music industry. Next, I see Mark Knofler(?) saying how he had asked Vince to join Dire Straights, I fell offa the couch..had no idea. Gill at that time had decided to try his own in his first love country music (and we can see where he went with that..lol) During this same tribute he also got Kudos from Albert Lee. Lee saying Gill was one of the finest all around musicians he had ever played with.

Joni's "Carey"..written during a time when she was in southern Spain in Marbella "Costa del Sol" region. Her reference to "The wind " speaks of a wind that whips across the Med from Morocco. This only happens at a certain of the year, early spring. Something like the "Santa Ana" in Cal. It is legend in the area most affected by these winds... one can commit murder and get away with it....because the "wind" drove them to do it.

Am thinking about a chartered flight to Spain next Spring (early) and was wondering if any of the anons would like to go. If you can prove you are a anon, we will give you a discount on your ticket.

And..."I'll put on my finest silver"

It's interesting how when songs appear on the radio and you interpret that song right into your events at the moment...or sometimes after hearing it a few more time.

The only Carey I've ever known was a beauitful,elusive young man,when that song of Joni's was on the charts, for example.

I do like the phrase one of those CD company uses, "This is the Soundtract of your Life".

*You know I'm Through With Buzz oh yeah hun hun alri-ight*

Oh please don't drive my lovebob away...

Top 10 list for possible inscriptions on my tombstone:

10. I'll keep my promise when you turn that heartbeat over again.

9. I'm in the amen corner now.

8. Could it be that I have found my home at last?

7. I may never walk again.

6. And I almost got there ... I almost got there.

5. Gonna lay down in it 'til I satisfy my soul.

4. I'll rise when the sun goes down.

3. Can you hear me Doctor?

2. Its kind of like the opposite of an aerial view.

1. Well I should know by now that it's just a spasm.

Oh, if you have to ask "which one's pink?" at a barbeque establishment, move on...at least that's what Mozart's ghost tells me...

I get it. A guy (let's call him "lovebob") who was an active GBer was driven from this space because of the negative and/or stupid "tone and content" of the posts. Now, some of the people responsible for the negative and stupid "tone and content," having driven lovebob away, now want him deleted as a Guestbook musician. Jesus man is right.

Roy: Didn't you write for Tom Bodet? During our "tea" breaks from priming tobacco we would partake in an R-oh-C Cola and Moon Pie with a pork rind garnish and a Now/later or Jawbreaker as an afterdinner mint. Then a quick BC powder before venturing into the hot, midday sun...

I heartily recommend the "pizza" at Parker's barbeque in Wilson, NC...

This morning I went to a restaurant where the sign read "We serve breakfast anytime" so I ordered french toast during the Renaissance....

sha-bam

Jimbo: All you do on this board is bash the same six artists. As if the phrase "N-Stink" is still funny. What's your hangup?

K.D.~ Good luck, buddy. I believe I'm paraphrasing you when i say that you're one of my nine favorite North American sports writing pizza salesmen. Remember that living well is the best revenge.

enimen~ I think you're right about the rap in "I Can't Function" being, "I was a W now I'm an L". But I still think the "W" to "M" interpretation would work. I know when I'm not functioning, some of those upward reaching appendages tend to turn downward.

Dr Mu~ When I'm at a fancy restaurant in Carolina, like Chez Roadkill, I like to show off by ordering the RC Cola and Moon Pie Flambeau. (If that doesn't get them, try ordering possum in French.)

ole, lisa, KD, stevie,and sam~ The carolina style pizza's on me next time I'm down there inspecting my chain of luxury hotels.

Midnite Cruiser and OptiMystic~ Thanks again. you two are the best. I may not have the means to repay all your favors but I'm laying the cosmic groundwork for a huge surge in your karma some time in the next millenium.

St. Al~ May I add to the list of 90's music that I particularly liked: The Mommyheads, Ben Folds Five, Gomez, Indigo Girls, Weezer, Guster, Superdrag, Bernard Butler, Wilco, D'angelo, Robert Earle Keene. I also kind of liked some of that retro forties stuff like Cherry Poppin voodoo Seltzer, Harry Diana Krall Conick.
I believe there's good music in every era, though I'm still of the opinion that the 80's mostly sucked. And i think we'll all agree that that period from 1530 to 1540 was notoriously lame.

And 11 Tracks of Whack and Kamakiriad rank up there with the Steely Dan collection of albums (IMCO).

Down in the bottom of the dunes,

RS

I have always thought that Donald singing Joni's "Off Night Backstreet" from _Don Juan's Reckless Daughter_ would have been perfect.

Their "Caves of Altamira" would have been perfect for her to sing.

Howard! What if SD went to your guitar pages to get Carey down?
Neato!!!!!!

cara mia

Lisa have another rant

Maybe most know the lyrics to Joni's "Carey" but I am reprinting them here from www.jmdl.com:

Carey
by Joni Mitchell

The wind is in from Africa
Last night I couldn't sleep
Oh, you know it sure is hard to leave here Carey
But it's really not my home
My fingernails are filthy, I got beach tar on my feet
And I miss my clean white linen and my fancy French cologne

Oh Carey get out your cane
And I'll put on some silver
Oh you're a mean old Daddy
But I like you fine

Come on down to the Mermaid Cafe and I will
Buy you a bottle of wine
And we'll laugh and toast to nothing and smash our empty glasses down
Let's have a round for these freaks and these soldiers
A round for these friends of mine
Let's have another round for the bright red devil
Who keeps me in this tourist town

Come on Carey get out your cane
I'll put on some silver
Oh you're a mean old Daddy
But I like you

Maybe I'll go to Amsterdam
Maybe I'll go to Rome
And rent me a grand piano
And put some flowers 'round my room
But let's not talk about fare-thee-wells now
The night is a starry dome
And they're playin' that scratchy rock and roll
Beneath the Matalla Moon

Come on Carey get out your cane
I'll put on some silver
We'll go to the Mermaid Cafe
Have fun tonight

The wind is in from Africa
Last night I couldn't sleep
Oh you know it sure is hard to leave here
But it's really not my home

Maybe it's been too long a time
Since I was scramblin' down in the street
Now they got me used to that clean white linen
And that fancy French cologne

Oh Carey get out your cane
I'll put on my finest silver
We'll go to the Mermaid Cafe
Have fun tonight
I said, Oh, you're a mean old Daddy but I like you
But you're out of sight

It is such a gal song, full of feminine type expression and with congenial type relating, and I too am very puzzled that The Boys would choose this one. Maybe they are pulling our legs.
Don lamenting about missing his clean white linen and fancy French cologne? He's gonna put on his finest silver and have some fun?
I won't believe it until I hear it!
It's almost too perverse even for SD.

more later,
cara mia Marsha (humming Carey and for the life of me can't hear Donald's nasal sound on this one)