Signed in stranger

ROCKOLGA SUX!: Three nights in a row, June 12, 13, & 14 at Le Bar Bat in NYC (31 West 57th street). NO we don't do any Steely Dan per say (ok, so we fake our way thru Bodhisatva, and suck our way thru , well, you know, but hey, where else you gonna hear With A Gun live?) We do, however, have a lot of fun re-creating classic rock & soul from the 60's & 70's. This years finally: an all Svedish version of The Who's "Tommy". Some liberties have been taken with regards to the storyline. In our version, the title character is a recovering alchoholic with an incredibly bad/yet borderline humorous, grasp of the English language. If your a Guest Booker in the area and you're thinking of dropping by, let me know!

lovebob

To All : Welcome to the all Clas, all the time Guestbook. Here you get to read postings from a Scandinavian(?) with the mental agility of a small soap dish, attempt to change characters like some feebile Tracy Ulman, while all of us stop/stare/regret/ and wonder how he ever had found the power button on his computer in the first place!

Clas, a piece of advice : Go Away! When the only responses to your sick postings come from yourself in drag, you've got serious problems. You're not fooling anyone here. First we thought you were a kind of cute, until your game got real tired, real fast. No there are rumblings of closing down this site because of you. If this were a real game at a real schoolyard, we'd kick the shit out of you and steal your football. Perhaps then you would learn how to "play well with others." This is how we used to successfully handle kids like you in the Immigrant rich neighoorhod in America that I grew up in. (before lawyers, of course)

StAl: Is it true that you manage this site, if so, sorry for the ignorance. I've got a plan.

Tired of assholes,

Techno Mo

Bobby! Iīll be there, if you promise to fire the singer. Replace him with someone who can stay in tune. What date?

Estamos muy bien los dos, Clas

two things.

first, that was jurassic park the ride.

second, i was watching "love potion #9" last night and there's a section in the middle with "ruby baby" (fagen version) as bg music.

that's all.... have a nice day

amanda

Really, where does the name Steely Dan come from?

... my b-friend loves Steely Dan and I am trying to learn a little more about him...... can anyone tell me interesting stories or facts that I can use to amuse and impress my b-friend? What about his childhood? How did he get started? What band did he use to play before?

TECHNICOLOR: Are you speaking for everybody? Have you had a meeting or what? Scandinavians? Come on man, there are people who donīt like me here thatīs true, imposters, they come on with new nicknames, put in pictures and accuse for me this and that. And all I have done is critizised your country. (and of course paranoid Ruby and her paranoid husband who went up in the roof when I said that my priest had a moisty body) I have been through this before. And I have brought interestings things to this Book, more than you ever are capable to. So, calm down.

I will stay. And yes, save the GuestBook, but that is only possible if some of you will play it straight.

RUBYBABY; Thanks for the cookies, they were good.

AMANDA; that was el plato combinado?

See you, clas

Aren't Walter and Donald worth more than to be honored with the meaningless dribble that gets posted to this site? I sincerely love their music. Can't we talk about their music for a while? After all this is a Steely Dan site!

Anthony

Anthony:I'm with you...Steely Dan ROCKS

Naomi:Steely Dan is a group!

Oleander- Star Trek- The Next Generation? you lost me there- I must be an alien- or maybe I suffer the dreaded histo!

Anthony : Thanks for the grounding. I admit, I get to caught up sometimes. Music is what this 'book is all about.

Had a strange musical experience yesterday and today. Yesterday, while heading to the beach, I stopped by a local market for some pasta salad, met a friend of mine who had just recorded a CD, he was so proud of it, produced by some "big time producer that is well known in the industry", done something like Crowded House or The The or whatever. He asked me if I wanted to buy the CD, $10, so I said yes, I'd be interested. While I waited for the to-go dish, he came back from his truck with the CD in tow. Takin' by surprise, I gave him a 20 and he went to the counter to get change, a 5 and 5 1s. I stashed the CD and finally listened to it tonight. I'll tell ya, I spent more time trying to take the plastic off of it than I did listening to it! It was horrible. First, I read that it was recorded on the RAG record label, many songs "Administered by On the RAG music." Of the 12 cuts, 4 were covers from Paul Simon, REM, Hendrix, and Crowded House. Tell me, if you had a chance to record your first Album/CD, would you take the same road?!? I'm supposed to give him feedback the next time I see him. Which approach should I take:

1) Congratulate him on his new CD 2) Tell him that plastic is killing our landfills, and if he really loves nature, he'd stop production immediately 3) Avoid him

I'm sure there are other options, and would be grateful for any input from the guestbook.

In need of a solution,

Techno Mo

TECHNICOLOR: Tell him that you liked it so much so you wanted to share the music with a swedish friend. And that the swedish friend liked it so much so he wonīt send it back.

Clas

CLAS: Now THAT was funny!

lovebob

BOB: Thanx.

No joking, itīs 11 AM here in Sweden, I donīt know where you are in US but it must in the middle of the night?

I have a funny thing to tell you. There was a party here in Sweden last night, lots of celebrities. Burt Bacharach (Fagens hero) was the guest and he was there to play a couple of songs. But the guests were so drunk and noisy so he got pissed and left the stage. Swedes canīt behave like human beings, can they? Itīs the damn vodka.

clas

I think St. Al is onto something:

Let's redirect all our wrath, abuse and persiflage away from one another and towards...

Jimmy Buffett!

YGK: I'll take the over and give you the under at 13.

Major (c): A while back, you were analyzing the Becker and Fagen solo works to try to infer who was responsible for which parts of their collaborations. Any new conjectures? The song "Haitian Divorce" has me wondering because melodically and instrumentally, it reminds me of "Waterloo" (Becker) but lyrically, it has a lot of Fagen's favorite elements: hotels, sleazy lovers, Caribbean settings. What do you think? Also, I'm guessing that "Reelin in the Years" was musically Fagen's creation because the melody passage "...are you reelin' in the years?" is so close to "..we're gonna have a wing-ding." in New Frontier.

Ole ander: Thanks for the responsive piece of medical journalism on Bob Dylan's affliction. I bet you did your high school term papers the first day they were assigned. Long live Mr Dylan; there are very few living musicians that don't owe him something. Ole: Who is this Horatio guy? One of those rotten things from Denmark?

Peace to all nations (Yes, only a fool WOULD say that), RS

Clas : Classic Solution to my dilema!!! Thanks for the input. The CD is by Joe's Band and it is titled "Listen". I don't expect it to be coming to a store near you in the near future, or near me, for that fact!

This is how I can phrase it:

Joe, I colaborate with a fellow musician in Sweden, to whom I send all material (you know, kind of like Elton John and Bernie Taupin, without the love ties). My friend liked it so much that he refuses to send it back. If Jerry Lewis can have such a following in France, why can't Joe's Band move to Sweden. (that way I can get rid of the CD and the band!)

Thanks,

Techno Mo

Hello guys!

Back from abroad yet again.

I note that some alter-ego acusations have been made again. I wish people would be themselves. I find it kinda spooky!!!

last week, Boz Scaggs was interviewed on TV by one of the UK's better musicians, Jools Holland.

They showed a clip of him in 1977. I do believe that the late great Pocaro was drumming away behind him. Made me quite sad. But I am not sure.

Does Fogel know whether JP toured with Mr Scaggs around that time. I am sure it was him. He had the child like smile on, that he always wore in his Toto vids!!!

I never really heard much Boz scaggs until that interview. Could anyone recommend a good purchase????

Does anybody own a Pro-ject or a Rega record deck? are the any good? I am thinking of buying one!!!

laters

pretzel buts

Clas: I hope that you are not Mr gaucho. He does not seem very nice to me!!!!

Techno: The problem with Clas' solution is: if your collaborator likes the CD so much that he won't send it back, then you should be asking to buy another copy for your collection... just my two cents (sense) worth of reality speaking here... perhaps you should confuse him with detailed questions, like: how long did it take to write the music? how long was he in the studio? how much did it cost? who produced it? etc. By the time he gets done answering those questions he will have forgotten his original question "how did you like it" and just assume you liked it because of your intense interest... I'm looking forward to hearing the actual solution. Back to lunch...

Techno MHome; but for gods sake, donīt give him my email-adress! Or my name! Tell him that your friends name is Benny Andersson. (ABBA)

San Fran; No, I am not, the little spanish I do is taken from a 15 year old schoolbook that lies besides me on my desk. But I think Gaucho is a nice fellow, I like crazy people.

Ole Ander; Hi my danish friend. Thanks for your medical report. I have a question; I read that this virus mr Dylan heartsack got is very common in Louisiana. Two years ago I was bathing in channel down there. I have had sternum pains since that day.

For a while I wrote here that Boz Scaggs was a streetmusician here in Stockholm. I just wanted to say that itīs TRUE!

Speaking of Dylan, do you GuestBookFriends (?) think Fagen sounds like Dylan on Barrytown?

ROYAL SCAM; Interesting, New Frontier/Reelin. I have always thought that Fagen has been the majorman in Steely. The chords, the singing, and maybe perhaps Walters former interests for selfmedication. And at the time when Nightfly was realiesed Fagen said that he missed Becker when it came to write the lyrics.

Clas

I am sorry, I wish there was a seven seconds delay on this PostButton! Forget everything I wrote about my sternum! It was not meantioned to insult or hurt people with heartproblems.

C

Whenever I hear "Ruby Baby" the Rhodes solo reminds me of "You Really Got Me" by the Kinks. I have often wondered if this was intentional.

Rickie Lee Jones is coming to Toronto this month and I very much want to catch her performance. Ardent danfans may recall that Walter Becker produced her "Flyng Cowboys" record.

Last I talked to Elliott Randall he was looking for a tube pre-amp for River Sound so I don't know how out-of-favour he really is with the guys if he was doing them a favour!

Take care...

SHINDIG!

SFK: Silk Degrees

Jeez, been away for over a week and just look at this mess!!! St. Al, can you say "Caller ID?"

Well, I've hung around here on and sometimes off for the last 10 months getting 16 years worth of Dan/Fagen/Becker thoughts and emotions off my chest, as very few people I've known over that time could appreciate the profundity and beauty of the music created by of Mssrs. Becker and Fagen. I've by now said most of that (some might ask if I had anything to say at all).

One last subject directly related to Dan that demands some astute feedback. What do you think are SD or solo Fagen/Beckers best song performances (live or studio)? This is tricky and sticky as this is not focusing on the "integrated" ensemble or "group" rather than individual performances (i.e., Elliot Randall's solo guitar or "Reelin' in the Years). Also, best performances are not necessarily completely congruent with best tunes, lyrics, production, and engineering.

Here's a few of my fav's (unranked - I may mave mentioned a few before, so forgive me) with very short rationale. Can't match the analytical skills of Edd, but here goes. I shall now Lurk.

Your Gold Teeth II (Katy Lied). They speak the truth here. Omartian, Porcaro, and Dias were never better. And that super smooth guitar solo. SD as a studio entity was slicker, but never tighter than on Katy Lied. The dark, cryptic lyrics are a wonderful counter point for the elegant and lyrical melodies which are intertwined in these works.

Dr. Wu (KL) See above + Phil Wood's sax.

...and that goes for the virtually rest of Katy Lied - my personal fav.

Rikki Don't Lose That Number (Pretzel Logic). While RDLTN is not my alltime favorite Dan tune, the Emotion and power of this "group" performance are gripping. Skunk's solo guitar is wrenching, yet almost delicate, at the same time.

Walk Between the Raindrops (Back to Your Door) (The Nightfly). This is a very lively performance turned in at the close of the Nightfly by Larry Carlton, Will Lee, and especially Steve Jordan's shimmering, wall of sound drums... and DF nimbly on the Hammond with just the right touch of cheesiness.

Home at Last (St. Louis'93) It just doesn't get any better than this.

Sign in Stranger (AiA) This song was a wonderful revamped and rejuvinated version of the Royal Scam ditty. As someone once mentioned her: It's the horns, stupid."

SHINDIG, you obviously read the Sweet Bio in which Philligagnes or whoever admits the solo was influenced by the Kinks.

Par 4, ln 3. There should Not be a "not" between "is" and "focusing."

Where did Fagen's tune "The Finer Things" appear?

El Sup

El Sup: "The Finer Things" appeared on the 1983 soundtrack to the movie "The King of Comedy".

RoyScam: Great, a taker!! Yes, I'm still at it and will be through the summer. Nice observations, got any more??

Re: Donald missing the Walter influence on the lyrics: He should miss him. Look at the liner notes for Nightfly, Kama, and Whack. Whack - lots of words. Nightfly - minimalistic. Makes me wonder if songs like Green Earrings was written by Donald.

Ear Candy: AiA's Green Earrings. I'm totally diggin the drum action right after the turn-around during the keys solo. Check out that mutha-fukka!!!!

"...rings of rare design, I remember, that look in your eyes, I don't mind..."

maj.

Techno: On second thought: upon considering the choices you provided I would advise #3... when that fails go to #1 (let's face it... putting out a CD is a mountain that most don't climb)... then, after you realize that you won't be able to live with yourself, you must go ahead and use #2! Back to dinner...

One of my favorite musical spots in the catalog can be reduced to just one note in "My Old School" - the low C played by the baritone sax on beat 1 of the measure immediately following the line "California tumbles into the sea..."

I can just picture something tumbling down the cliff, culminating in a big C "splat" at the bottom. It gives me the giggles...

Edd

Dr. Mu: Ditto on the Boz Scaggs choice - you got to post it first. You pose quite a challenge when asking about best song performances by D & W either individually or collectively (the term Guest -book- would be completely appropriate, as that is what I would end up writing). In the interst of time and also the reader's sanity, I will keep my reply brief.

For now, all I can say is that I wish they had started writing all the music we have all come to respect and love about five or ten years earlier. I can just see myself in my youth, picking every chord progression apart on the piano and having it all make perfect sense to me. Sometimes I still do and after all these years, it still does!!

Back to my bunker, Beautiful Survivor

"Aja" guest guitarist Lee Ritenour will be at "The Bottom Line" in NYC this Friday and Saturday, June 6 and 7 (with Dave Gruisin).

The Dan's most ubiquitous and arguably their most prolific hired gun, Larry Carlton, will be in town at "The Blue Note" for a week of club dates from July 1 through 6, 1997.

YGK: Been away awhile, missed your post and the Leonhart show. Got a review?

Dr. Mu: Yeah, "Your Gold Teeth II"... Dias guitar solo is a language unto itself. Holy f_ck indeed!

Rumor has it Bobby's pump don't work 'cause the vandals took the handles...

Joe

Re: Which SD compositions are Fagen or Becker?

I think that most if not all are basic Fagen tunes that Becker adds to and/or puts an "edge" on. I think listening to their solo albums bears this out.

Of course, thats just one mans opinion.

There, I've "dipped my toe" in the Guestbook pool.

If it's not too cold I'll post again someday.

Re: Which SD compositions are Fagen or Becker?

I think that most if not all are basic Fagen tunes that Becker adds to and/or puts an "edge" on. I think listening to their solo albums bears this out.

Of course, thats just one mans opinion.

There, I've "dipped my toe" in the Guestbook pool.

If it's not too cold I'll post again someday.

Been lurking more and more infrequently of late and then it's like the GB generator gets over it's dodgy mechanical problems and is purring sweetly again.

It must be like biorhythms or something:

1) I ditched a load of CDs in a car boot sale at the w/e including a rather lame Ringo Starr CD 'Time takes time' produced (from memory) by Jeff Lynne, Don Was, Peter Asher and Phil Ramone (?). Now you'd have thought with all that talent and money they could have come up with less turkey. Anyway, the reason I mention this is because the Skunk appears on the two Ramone-produced tracks. Any other particularly ordinary appearances by ex-Dan contributors out there? (and who will D&W take to the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame? Dias & Baxter?)

2) In return also managed to pick up the Mojo issue with Andy Gill's excellent article/interview and pix from Oct 95 ("there is actually talk of a new Steely Dan studio album in the works." mmm) which used to be on the SD site (maybe it still is somewhere).

3) And now I find that 'Bright Lights, Big City' is on the box again tomorrow [will check for K'kiriad similarities Fezzy].

Another great week to be a Dan fan

Richard&kangaroos

First of all, I've been asking for about the last 4 years about the "Reelin in the Year" biography on Steely Dan, especially on sojourns to the U.S. None of the stores seem to carry it - Any ideas where it can be had - Is the bloody thing out yet?

Secondly, are there any touring dates planned for the summer/fall of 1997 in Canada? They were in Vancouver in 1994, but that's 3,500 miles or so from Ottawa, Ontario.

Finally, anything new out of the studio by Fagen and Becker? 17 years between studio efforts is a touch infrequent.

JGMurtha - Lee Ritenour's playing in New York?? Well, I heard that John Beasley's doing some touring with him these days. Your theory's falling nicely into place. Afterall, Ritenour played on one Steely Dan song in eight years, and Beasley did the '96 tour. What the hell's going on here??? This is more exciting than the low C played by the baritone sax on beat 1 of the measure immediately following the line "California tumbles into the sea..." Dontcha think?

Hey ED! ditto on the low C. It is the bane of my Damned existance that our bari player's sax only goes down to a low Bb. By default, the low C goes to the bones. This, as you can imagine is not nearly as cool, and somewhat embarassing for a band that goes out of its way to use a talk box on Haitian Divorce. And while buying a Coral electric Sitar (Jerry Jones) for use on only two songs seemed justifiable, neither my bari player nor I could come to grips with purchasing a baritone saxiphone for just one note. (for a while, I was having him fudge it by sticking his bell into his knee/thigh, therein utilizing the Doppler effect to obtain the low C. The results were not predictable enough and when it didn't work...ouch, livestock!. Also, since he needed to turn sideways to do it (relevent to his mic) it usually meant that the whole horn section had to jump one step to the left to get out of his way. This part, I liked, and so did the audience. The horn section, on th other hand, were not amused.) Phew, all that from one low C note.

Clas:When I first read Donald saying he was a influenced by Dylan, I thought it was the most ridicules thing I ever heard. About two & a half years ago, we attepted to learn Barrytown and I couldn't believe how Dylanesque Donalds vocals sounded to me. The lyrics, the phrasing, everything. I'm glad somebody else noticed. I also hear some Dylan in the lyrics to Kid Charlemagne, and Don't Take Me Alive, but not in the vocal delivery.

(GK) RICHARD: You should check out the Posies version (ie the original version) of Golden Blunders. Despite the "Time Takes Time" Ringo reading, it's still a very cool song.

lovebob

EDD: And speaking of one note wonders, how about the first guitar note on Hey 19, the first horn section note on Caves (standing next to a horn section on this one is like a punch in the stomach.....in a good way!), or my personal fav, the one roulade Cathy Berberian knows she can't sing..........bing! Possibly, dare I say, the best placed single note in history!

lovebob

BOB: When I was young (20) I played in a band (omlopp, swedish for orbit) and we did Barrytown (shit! A cover!). We had a hell figuring out what Fagen sang in the stick. "..that the world was ?...". So we just invented some word that sounded the same. Hell, now I have forgotten what word it was. Whirled?

SHINDIG: Are you joking? Greg Phillinganes solo is not played on a Rhodes.

Is there any experts on dogs out here? I have a question.

Finally: what song beginns with these chords:

Am9 A/B G/C...

First person that got the right answer can have my dog.

Peace, Clas

Wotcha y'all...

Just when I thought things were starting to mellow out, we appear to have been bombarded with what can only be described as a "Clas-Spasm." Yo Clas, has your medication kicked in yet? If so, can you spare some?

Erica: (If, indeed, you exist outside of what passes as Clas' fevered mind), If you are Swedish, what does "bork-bork" mean?

Techno Mo: Tell him it's shit. It's a bit like having a bogey (booger) hanging out of your left nostril, no one wants to tell you but you most certainly would want to know. You'll be doing him a favour in the long run.

RoyScam: Heaps big thanx on the clarification of the piss ants issue, only I'm not too sure I'd like my delicate nether regions hovering over those nasty red mandibles as I lack the suitable equipment to urinate at them at a safer distance... Couldn't I just pour it over them at my leisure?

All: Hey, whose cousin/brother/relation is in Bosnia doing relief work? Can he receive snail mail? I'd just like to send him a big smootchy thank-you/well-done letter. Lemme know.

Yours walking between the raindrops back to my (job)

Clas: I am nowhere near my stereo when I enter my posts usually. Nor am I a keyboard player. Allright smart-guy, what is it then? If I go back to my CD and hear a Rhodes it'll be your head on the chopping block mon frere. I mean that.

Scott Westifled: I don't own Sweet's bio. I get most of my Dan info from reading the net or just plain dumb luck. I actually made my "You Really Got Me" observation all on my lonesome. I play Nightfly as background music when I disc jockey weddings. I've played/sang the Kinks tune a zillion times in cover bands. I keep meaning to buy that Bio but the Thirty dollar price tag keeps putting me off. I don't know why though because I buy just about anything related to the Dan.

Greenstreet: I shared your theory about Becker adding the "edge" to Dan tunes for some time...but there are some curious chord changes on Whack that betray a certain amount of Harmonic sophistication. And anyone who consistantly comes up with such interesting bass lines can't be a total rube...

I recall that prior to the release of Whack someone named "Lady Dan" on the mailing list; (a person who I exchanged e-mail with but whose name has now slipped into the mists of time) said that several Whack tunes were registered to both Fagen and Becker. Obviously when the album came out that wasn't demonstrated in the liners...still I can SMELL Fagen in some of the Bridges and transitions on Whack. It may be just influence.

Anyway...back to your theory. During the great IRC chat of 96 I asked Becker if the style of his solo album indicated that he wrote the lyrics to, for example, Reeling...he said it was a colaberative effort. And if you think about some of the things Fagen has said in interviews (his sense of humour) it is not entirely impossible to imagine that he has a darker more edgy side. Maybe Becker brings it out of him.

Or maybe he just needs to have a good dump.

Shindig.

Clas: "...in the beginning we recall that the word was hurled... Barrytown people got to be from another world..."

Bob T: Rockola in NYC again? Is Fogel giving discounts to Guestbookers? Is it enough of a discount to cover my airfare, too?

"...you're a nation..." Now THAT'S funny.

Shindig: The only Whack tune that was co-written with Fagen was "Fall of '92" which ended up being excluded from the album, though it was later made a bonus track on the Book of Liars/Hard Up Case promo CD single.

FineCol: Regarding urinary repellent of fire ants. "The right tool for the right job", my Dad always said.-- I checked with HQ and they have no female/male adapter for pissant applications. It's probably best to bring someone with the appropriate I/O device when undertaking this task.--And please don't say "delicate nether regions" around Clas; he'll get excited and start talking dirty and web-sturbating again.

Clas: I agree: Barrytown is , indeed, a very Dylanesque song; not just in vocal phrasing, but in melody and lyrics also. Listen to "...over there in Barrytown, they do things very strange." then listen to Dylan's "Positively Fourth Street" when he says "You've got a lot of nerve to say you are my friend." Donald's vocals in "Rose Darling" and "Any Major Dude" also sound Dylan-influenced to me. (but better of course).

Dr. Mu: For my $, "My Old School" is the best recorded musical performance, by anyone, since the Del-Vikings broke up. The saxaphones, the guitar solo, the two piano breaks, and the vocal harmonies (something we don't mention much on the GB) all still knock me around after 24 years.

Love em' till they run for cover, RS

Kinky, surfing in Nebraska again I see... My god man, you are indeed a genuinely lonesome sort, aren't you?? There, I responded... Satisfied?

Oleander: Love that Joycean literalism... More, more, I said, more.

Re: Bob Tedde and his band Rockola at Le Bar Bat in New York City - Next Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.

*Free admission for Guestbookers*

It looks like we're going to have quite a turnout for Rockola at Le Bar Bat June 12, 13, and 14 (Thurs unplugged). To those of you that are making the trek, I can put you on a complimentary guest list. The normal fee is $20 per person, if you email me with your name, the number of people you will be with, and the night/s you are coming, you will get in for free. Again, I don't need all the names in the party just one name plus the # of guests with you.

Le Bar Bat is located at 311 W. 57th St. (just west of 8th Ave.). There is a parking garage directly across the street from the club. If you park there, you can have your ticket validated for a reduced price (around $6-$8), however, I recommend public transportation and cabbing around the city. As far as attire, people wear everything from jeans and T-shirts to tuxedos, just don't look too sloppy.

The club consists of three levels and four bars. Dinner goes until 11:00, there is also a late night menu that goes until 2:00am. The club is open until 4:00am, expect the music to go from around 11:00 till 3:30. (I'll make sure the D.J. throws in some Dan between sets).

I'm sure you will all have a great time. Le Bar Bat is one of the hottest clubs in NYC, and Rockola was great last year. They play everything from The Beatles, to The Eagles, to The Who, and sound amazingly like the original recordings. Hope you can make it!

Remember, you must be 21 to enter.

Dr.Mu: ATTITUDE, man! The best song performances by SD have this certain attitude. How can I explain it? The bass and drums in DTMA are outstanding. Come to think of it, the whole Royal Scam album is filled with such fantastic percussion. The vocals in Everything You Did, and the guitar in that instrumental interlude is just so damn expressive! And what about the horns in Caves of Altamira? Sometimes, in a movie, you find a supporting roll actor that is so great, he makes the movie(Tom Arnold has done that) That's the horns in Caves of Altamira and Sign In Stranger. But I think it's the drums and the bass performances in all the songs of Royal Scam that are THE BEST. Does this mean I'm a percussion/bass slut?

Anthony@hisB&G: Amen!

RubyBaby

Pete: Please put me down from Friday and Saturday +1 each nite - if you need my proper name, please let me know.

I suppose change is good? This being the case, why don't you see what we've been cooking up on the "My sentry trembles, he feels the end is coming. . ."

Tell ya what I'm gonna do. . . Amazon's page for Sweet's book

FINE COL; Medication? Please explain. Bork Bork is not swedish. An donīt fuck with me.

If you read "Ericas" post you could see that she is from Oslo, Norway.

Shindig; Sorry if you got pissed, but I thought everybody could here the difference between a Rhodes and a Grand. I donīt play sax but I can here the difference between a baryton and a tenor. Thatīs not a hard thing is it?

ROY SCAM; Talk dirt. Is that what you call talk dirt? Man, you havenīt heard much.

Clas

Clas: I always thought that Bjork was from Iceland!!!! Ha ha!

Clas: Is yours laced with kerosene?

RS, RBaby: Outstanding picks. "My Old School" proves that it's not just the rhythm section that can make a song "groove." SD, etc. always made best use of the backups, especially when Donald doubles his own vocals (exs. True Companion, Don't Take Me Alive, many others) The horns charts from the Caves of Altamira are some of my favorite. Something about the keyboards in that song always throw me off kilter - I'm sure they're supposed to. Good point about the intricate drumming on Scam. More please...

St. Al: believe it or not, YourGoldKeith is actually NOT my real name. Tell me now, are you really a Saint?

ygk

Yes, he is.

StAl: I dig your front porch! They got time to burn. Not so we. Kewl.

Hello and hugs and enjoy to y'all.

Pat,

Congrats, man, I'm quite impressed with the entry page's new look, and even more amazed with the successful use of the word 'Scads'in a sentence. That's a word we just don't see enough of around here...that and the word 'Roe'...if you could work both of these into your next post (preferrably in a derogatory reference to myself) that would make my day...

Cordially, Kent

StAl: I like the new frontgate. Rudy: Nice graphics and choice of typefaces.

But StAl: what is this: "Mary is strapping on a rubber penis."? Is it your intention to scare away cristian woman from this book? If so is, I will no longer be around. And about strapping, whas it theirfor the woman here used to call me the STRAPPING BABY?

DrMu: Yes and no, my endorfine is not laced with nothing else than salisylsyrederivat, but my serotonin has some problem with some chains in the frontlobe, theirfor I use to eat appprxoosnmnmitly 120 mg Prozac morning and night. But somewhere in the body, mine here, so to speak, the Prozac doesnīt fit with the large amount (3 g ) of amfetamins I use in mornings to get out of bed. So, to avoid some terminal epilepsisattaczis I have to, before the inhale of the speed, take 80 mg Valium, that is 8 blue ones, 10 mg each. After some coffee and 7 cigs I am ready to roll down to my firm and talk with my customers. I tape the calls so I can remember what they want me to do, how much money I shall get from them und so weiter. After lunch, a banana, I need to have some dragons, I chase them in the mens room. Then, some Mogadons and smack before I go to bed is necessary to fall asleep.

But kerosene, no. I donīt do coke.

Clas, Clas & Clas

Par 4, ln 3. There should Not be a "4g" between "is" and "focusing."

Sorry

just don't let it happen again - EVER~!

Bye bye Dallas I can't stay Should've been at the Palace Yesterday Hey no father It's understood Livin' low undercover I'm/You're no good Bye bye Dallas

What do they mean with "shouldīve been at the Palace"

Klaus and the Rooster

Clas:

I'm not mad at all. To put what I told you before another way, I don't post near my stereo. This means I hafta rely on a somewhat scattered memory of some of the tunes when posting. I made an error about what type of keyboard plays a solo on a tune. Wanna spank me, big fella?

There's a really cool posting on a Bob Dylan page about possible links between Dylan and the Dan. It also explains some of the goings-on at Bard colledge and the drug busts that Becker and Fagen. I think the page is something like "Dylan Tramps". Maybe a Dylan fan can spill the URL out onto the page for us.

SHINDIG

StAl:

Nice job. And thanks (as always) for the tip of the hat... Right back at ya my friend.

Joe

SFK & everyone--Let me make one thing perfectly clear--this is my ONLY a.k.a. I'm a one-alias woman, and I disavow ANY connection to other bogus asshole personae, local or long distance.

Dylan was discharged from the hospital Monday, apparently doin' fine.

Bob & Pete--sounds like a PARTY! I'm jealous!

Q--On Star Trek TNG, Q was the bad boy from an absurdly advanced species who used to terrorize Jean-Luc et al. for his own amusement, usually to show to good effect the actual superiority of our lovable human quirkiness. No! I'm not saying you sound like an extraterrestrial snot--it's just the name.

TecMo--don't neglect Rickie Lee's "Pirates."

Dr. Greenstreet--all right! yet ANOTHER doctor on the line! Call me a fool, but re the who-wrote-what debate: I'm just so amazed by the nonpareil synergy of the duo, much less the dazzling synchronicity of their ever finding each other in the first place, that I really don't care.

Ho-Roy-tio & Doc Mu--"Home at Last," "Aja," "My Old School," "Third World Man." Gimme another minute and I'll think of several more. And no, I'm a desperate all-nighter kinda girl.

See ya later, procrastinator--

I can keep my brain alive. I like the exhaustive and humorus work on the SD homepage and SD internet resource.

Shindig--I think you mean http://bob.nbr.no/dok/who/who.html. Sorry, I can't do the link thing. The post you're referring to just quotes the Sweet book at length. You should just read the book--it's worth it.

Fellow Dr. Mu: Best SD performances? How about Green Earings on Royal Scam? The drums are good start to finish and I always liked the 3 stage guitar solo that starts mild and ends mean.

Another favorite is Black Cow. The vocals and horns work together very well and the final saxophone solo is a definite highlight. This one sounded awful good in 96. Too bad it couldn't have been done earlier to make AIA. On the subject of former SD studio players, both Larry Carlton and Dean Parks appear on a CD by piano player Bob Mamet called "Signs of Life". Very good listening

JGMurtha - You forgot to inform us that Steve Gadd and Anthony Jackson are playing at Birdland next week. You're slippin' there Fitz!

StAl - Nice page, but, you know, I kind of like that midi version of Home at Last on Granatino's site. Oh, and next time you email that "active" member, ask him if he likes that you're telling everyone that you have his address. StAl, your such a groovy cat.

Bob - Is it the same set as last time?

Clas : re your question, what song begins with the chords Am9 A/B G/C ?

Well, I've been mentally scanning all the SD tracks, and maybe I will suggest an answer - and this is just a guess right? - how about, none of them ?!?!?!?

I've included FM, Western World & True companion - but you wouldn't be sneaky enough to include the demos (Stone Piano etc) now would you?

On the subject of musical trivia, here's another one for you.

In the introduction to which Steely Dan song is there a section just over a bar long that uses all 12 notes of the chromatic scale once and once only?

I'm sure this was included as one of Walter and Donald's slightly perverse musical jokes. Well, it's quirky but it's nice so what the hell.

(This question isn't too easy for you is it ?)

If you get it right, you win Clas' dog (again).

Howard

SHINDIG: Hi, maybe I take it for granted that people here should know all about what instruments and so on. You know, Iīve been listening on Nightfly for 17 years now.

Camille: Do you like the exhaustive and humorus work on this GuestBook as well?

StAl: I got D. Fagens emailadress. Could we trade?

What do they mean with "shouldīve been at the Palace"

claes

Kinky: We don't work from set lists, so while a lot of the tunes are bound to be the same, many should be different, and since I have no idea what exactly we played the night you saw us, them tunes what are the same will certainly not be in the same order. The unplugged show on Thursday night will be significantly different from the Fri & Sat shows, although I seem to remember integrating a significant chunk of them into our last LLB performances. On the Steely-significant side, we haven't done Bodhisatva or With A Gun (as ROCKOLA) since last October, so I don't know if we'll be up on either of those or not. Of course if Mr. Zing and/or other Dan alumnists make a showing I'm sure we can handle the rythem parts and vocals. Any requests?

lovebob

PS. let me buy you a drink this time, I promise not to shout/slur it to the world.

So Kink, r u gonna show? How 'bout some Macallan 25? Wanna finally meet?

LoveBob: Home at Last, Pretzel Logic, pleeeeeeeeeez?

Clas: I suspected that you kept a balanced diet. You should cut out the banana though. The gelatin coatings on all those capsules should be enou gh to sustain you.

Dr. Greenstreet: That guitar solo is certainly the highlight of Green Earrings.and *that* note of stratospheric Maynard Fergusonesque proportions!!! Given the obscure acknowledgements on Royal Scam, I've never been sure who was responsible....Dean Parks doing Dias? The sound seems too crystal line to be Larry Carlton. Any ideas? BOTH on Bob Mamet's CD...Hmmm!!

Howard: "Fire in the Hole?"

HOWARD; Right answer is Nightfly. (remember, I didnīt say it was a Steely Dan-song, did I?)

Let me get to your question later. Hmm, chromatic scale. I got it tomorrow.

C

DrMu: That would be Elliott Randall who did the guitar solo on Green Earrings, according to the credits on the "Gold" CD.

What a week I had. I bought a vehicle with its own eco-system, picked up a girl at a car wreck, visited my Dad, endured a lunar-induced impotence, re-lived my past at a virtual memory amusement park, slept late, picked up another ballerina-legged plaything, stared at pretentious art, went ice sailing, witnessed an extraterrestrial invasion by aliens who looked like Sigourney Weaver, visited an old girlfriend, got rejected on the beach, got despondent, considered suicide, listened to some jazz, drank some tea, felt better, and drove into the unknown. With a schedule like that, is it any wonder it takes me eleven years to make an album?

TMA: A tip 'o the Fez...Elliot Randall in the "Distortion-free" zone with a touch of string-bending.

Royal Scam; isnīt life a bitch? And then you die.

Dr Mu; thanks for the advice. I even donīt like bananas.

But fire In The Hole, no, thatīs not chromatic?

Ole Ander; Ditto, assholes, bogus assholes, THATīs what they are.

C

Roy.Scam: perhaps a few more details regarding the extraterrestrial invasion would be in order?

HOWARD; Bodhisattva! Damn, I dont get rid of my dog.

I always thought the Palace meant Caesar's Palace.

Is that the same Dallas song that Poco did sometime in the 70s, about a zillion years ago? Lyrics ring a bell...

a TR fan

The bride is back!

Nice new page, StAl, but I like the new look of Pete Fogel's pages even more, and somehow I think he'll have the latest news before you. Hasn't he always? And check out Fogel's new Links page too, very cool.

I'm a producer at at PBS station in California. Why not mount a mail campaign to have 'da boyz do a special?

Have Fagen's solo tunes graced any other soundtracks besides Heavy Metal, King of Comedy, and Bright Lights Big City?

If so, I would love to see a list...

Also, I was wondering if there were any live CD's of the 1994 (other than Alive in America, of course) tour? I would just love to hear "The Fez" again....

And another thing, I remember hearing "Monkey in Your Soul" about 5 times during the soundcheck for the show in Cincy. Did they ever play this one during the show anywhere?

If I heard those horns live, I think I'd shit!

El Sup

P.S. Clas - I'd drop the prozac and switch to paxil. And maybe 1 mg of Xanax could take the place of the diazepam.... :-)

Ga'head, it's time to flame the newbie.

After stepping outta my shell (acct) after 8 months into the PPP world ('bout time, eh?) it's been great to find pages for the DanFan that I am. Thank God there are others who appreciate the best combination of jazz-based progressions with lyrics that have the wit, intelligence, cynicism, and humor that transcends most pop drivel. I've been at the Poplar Creek '93 and '94 gigs, and had 3rd row seats at the '96 Alpine Valley concert.

StAl: You should already have my msg regarding the image(s).

To all: that the vanity plates on my vehicle are 'DCN BLUZ' is merely an initial indication of my obsession.

As long as the focus is on the music, I pose this question --

Could it be that I have found my home at last?

The Man Alone: Eliott Randall on Green Earrings? Well, maybe it's him doing the last bit of the solo (very aggressive, trebly sound) but surely it is the BIG MAN Denny Dias who plays the 'main solo' ? The end solo makes a nice bookend for the whole section, but it's the middle bit that really does it for me. Pure, delicous bop on a guitar.

Fire in the Hole ain't the song I was after.

Clas : No, not Bodhissatva! I would have to check, but all that stuff on the piano is on the G mixolydian isn't it? - i.e all the white notes from G to G. Including the final 'chord' - raise upper arm above piano, bring down sharply covering as much of the keyboard as possible, enjoy.

No, the 12 note thing is more obvious - more of a melody line. It *must* have been done deliberately, as one of their little jokes. How often do you come across a 'tune' with 12 notes that just happens to use each chromatic note just once?

You could still get rid of (Clas) or win (everyone else) a dog yet ...

Any guesses?

Howard

HOWARD: that was ei hard one. Iīm gonna listen to all songs tonite. But what song has these chords in the beginning and at the end:

B7 D9 #Cm7 #F A/B - Em7 E7 Esus7 ...

El Supremo: No man, Prozac is class man. Can 1 mg Xanax fill in for the lack of so many Valium? Hell, I donīt dare to try.

Have a nice weekend, peace, clas

El Supremo: Fagen also wrote a tune called "Blue Lou" for the Glengarry Glen Ross soundtrack.

Howard: Denny Dias doesn't appear at all in the Green Earrings credits. It says Elliott Randall (lead guitar) and Larry Carlton (guitar).

Howard: I know you are singing a song of the past.

I have an interview with NJ Governor Christie Whitman to air on my radio program June 10. I'd like to intro the segment with some W+D music, for an iNtuitive kick in the head. Any suggestions?

Kent: Have you come clean, made a break from the world of minors?

I think the new Dan recording is going to sound alot like Whack, especially Book through Hat Too Flat. The Donald timing and chords are flying in Whack.

maj.

I hate to disagree with an SD source the likes of Kinky/The Man Alone but, its a well established fact (liner notes be damned) that Dias is featured on "Green Earrings" along with Elliot Randall. Those classic bebop lines are not part of Randall's repertiore. Howard, you've got it nailed where Dias comes in... hot on the heals of Randall's "aggresive" solo.

Put down your liner notes and go back to doing what you do best Kinky, vilifying others who know what they're talking about.

Howard: a piece or Mr Parker's Band? I'm having to rely what I remember.

Cold_Daring: Interesting controversy brewing here over the solo in GE. I was able to verify that on the Gold-Expanded Edition that Elliot Randall is given credit as " lead" guitar. Went back and listened the song it (on RS) a few times late last night. I haven't heard any of Elliot Randall's work outside Dan, but the GE solo sure doesn't sound like his licks on Reelin' or Kings except over the more "crunchy" last third of the solo which follows a short repeat of the song's "signature" chords. The sound has some similarity with the Dias solo on YGTII (especially in the run after "the note"), but there's some string bending just before "the note," which is not consistent with Dias. This explanation is the best I can do as a non-musician.... certainly worth a few more listens...

Cold_daring - You're showing your true ignorance by implying that I'm A Man Alone. If I'm going to make a point, that I obviously am confident about, why in the hell would I post under an alias? Isn't it just like me to want to prove that I'm right? Speaking of which, what's your real handle?

One other thing, about your "vilifying" (sp) people who "know what they're talking about" comment, there's only a handful of people that post here that know what they're talking about, and you don't sound like one of them. I'm usually having to write here to correct the majority of others who don't have a clue or trying to put a pin to some inflated egos so there's room for the rest of us.

Hope I didn't swipe somebody else's handle. Second time I've signed on this guestbook, and about to show my lack of trivial knowledge about Fagen and Becker. I can't really beat the bushes for tidbits in all the music mags, but being an ardent lover of their sound for over twenty years, can I at least leech off what people offer up here.

Clue me in - When did Jeff Procaro die? Denny Dias - why is his name seldom mentioned in anything about SD, but Jeff Baxter always seems to get a mention; Is is because he was part of "Ultimate Spinach," and gets points for being part of such a band?

Is their a SD studio effort in the works? If so, what do you afficianados know of who the side players are? Give me an update, and I promise to browse the other sites and get more on my own.

For me, personally, my favourite side to any SD release is SIde B of "Aja."

Thanks

I have setup an IRC channel on EFNet called #DanzFanz Come join in the fun.

email me for a list of EFNet servers if you need it.

All alone, BookKeepersSon (BKsSon)

Someone actually joined #DanzFanz for a second.

Soon it will be closing time at the grungy fair.

"Isn't it just like me to want to prove that I'm right?"

Talk about your inflated egos...

RazorBoy:(I like joebj better) I've noticed this lack of Dias material while the Skunk is *everywhere*. Somebody here rented a History of Rock & Roll - the 70s, vol 8. It claimed to feature Steely Dan, so I watched it. All it had of the Dan was some clips of Reeling, which was cool, but mostly, it just had Reeling in the background whilest Jeff Skunk Baxter did a lot of talking. Hey, they almost let him talk as long as Bowie. He was interesting, but blah blah blah. I was hoping for live KOTW. As for Dias, not hide nor hair. And I saw Rick Derringer, too. Damn, those guys were SKINNY!

Now that I'm thinking about builds, the sax player that tours with Tina Turner comes to mind. I wanted to take him home.

And her black spikes with the red soles. The sexiest shoes I've ever seen. I want those, too.

RB

HOWARD: Yes, I was into what dr Mu said, mr Parkers band. But could it be that you mean the guitar in Kings that slippes on a bananashell into the third verse? Or the end of the saxsolo on dr Wu?

Hell, I donīt know.

Clas

Sh*t - I feel half responsible for creating a little storm over who plays the solos in Green Earrings!

The Man Alone : Mr Randall, this I can buy. But Larry Carlton? I don't think so. It just HAS to be Dias!!! Never mind the liner notes.

Cold Daring : thanks for the back-up. I'm glad someone can hear Dias on this one. No question in my mind.

Maybe the confusion arises because the solo seems to be in three parts? After the second time through 'I don't mind, I don't mind' we get a key change, some new chords, and a pretty sparse solo - just a few notes every bar. This bit ends with the long held chord, and a held note on the guitar which is slowly bent up. (Is this what you meant Dr Mu?). This almost certainly isn't Dias - maybe this is Mr Carlton? Seems a shame to limit the guy to only 8 bars!!!

After the little drum break, a new key change (into Fm), and the MAIN solo starts. This just has to be Denny. Pure bop. Then, after a while, back to the main riff - and the third solo starts - Elliott Randall. I think we can all agree on this.

Can we settle this thing?

Clas: OK, these chords: B7 D9 etc etc. Played it through last night on the guitar and the words 'wing-ding' and 'summer smoker' came to mind. The key word is survival on the New Frontier.

maj and Dr Mu : 'singing a song of the past' and 'Mr Parker's band'. Not sure if you're both referring to my 12-note chromatic teaser. Anyhow, no prizes yet! It's one hell of a way to lead into the first line of the first verse - using every chromatic note just once and concocting one hell of a quirky instrumental line. Just over one bars worth of DF and WB's strange musical humour. Anybody know the song? Surely Edd must know it - havn't heard from him yet ...

Clas, your dog is safe.

Howard

Ruby Baby - Thanks for your insights - But don't get dillusionary at my e mail address - It's my first name and the initials of my son's first and middle name - sorry if you got moist over the double intendre'. Can anyone telll me, perhaps you can Ruby Baby, why Walter Becker would tell the crowds, almost boastfully, during their last tour, that they didn't use a single trumpet or trombone? Yet these are integral in their studio albums? Was this a creative difference of opinion they had with Gary Katz, and why he did not produce Kamikiriad? Was GK in on Becker's 11 PIECES OF WACK?

Howard; New Frontier, yes. I get back to you with this chromatic thing.

JOE: Ruby got moist? Son you better be ready to fight. And no, no mr Katz on 11 TOW.

C, the Comma-Counter

Howard and others: This: chords on a refrain:

Cmaj9 / Cmaj9 / G13 / G13 / Cmaj9 / Ebmaj7/F F13 / Gmaj7 / Gmaj7 / ???

playing the field, C

maj--how about "only a Fool?"

Show me My Rival!

Has anyone ever heard this one live? How was it? I love the studio version, so measured and punctuated...what do y'all think about it?

Mr. Clas, do you get paid to post here? I notice you always seem to post from work.

About the awful CD, play it straight, he may not like what you have to say but he did ask and he'll respect your honesty and you'll respect yourself , too!

ANTHONY: I should not do this, but since you asked. For about a year ago I was contacted by a man from CIA. He said that there was, on Internet, a Steely Dan Homepage with a GuestBook.He explained for me that the band Steely Dan, I didnīt know who they were, was very revulotionary, and had lyrics that were very subversive. And that there had been a lot of fighting between the US-GuestBookMembers. So, he asked if I could play the part of a "outside" enemy that the GB-members could focus their anger and hate on, well, something that could make them stick together. He also mentioned that there was a big risk for a new civil war. A Foreign Commie Enemy, that is what I am payed for to be. And behind my back I have a whole bunch of staffwriters that also get payed. Not as much as me, but a few bucks.

To make the case more authentic I had to settle down in Sweden (oh, what a drag), and put in some crap about dogs and Prozac and Louisiana, and of course, insult your country (and the members of Steely Dan) so often it was possible.

Marvin the Arvin alias Clas

Deacon Blues?

m.e.

Hey Cos, You comma Counter; Ease up - no throat cutting intended on my part. Thanks for the Katz observation - I'd be interested to know how many Danz Fanz got duped into thinking a new effort was being relelased by the lads, when it was really "China Crisis" and the album Waldo Becker produced . The opening lines of the single released from the album, which went, "The Arizona Sky..." the singer had the same inflections as if Fagen were singing it. It was as if WB was duping us all. I fell for it.

And the song that Fagen wrote for Monkey House, "Lazy Nina," which was heavy with snythesizers, just added to the frustration of waiting for another SD work.

Cheers

A couple of Dan related dates for those interested...

Mindy Jostyn of NYR&SR fame will be at (ironically enough) "Fez", 380 Lafayette St. NYC on Monday, June 9, 1997.

Chris Potter (Fresh for '93 Steely Dan Or-Kestra saxophonist) will be the featured artist for Jazz at Noon, San Martin, 143 E. 49th St. this Friday, June 13, 1997. I especially like Chris' solo on "Chain Lightning" from '93.

Clas: Now that was funny...

Howard--Don't know if you got my email yet, but it's "Rikki," isn't it? I awoke from a dead sleep this am with That Bar in my head.

While I'm at it, how about those Red Wings??? Brought it home on my birthday, no less.

Le Roi du Scam: Keep in touch on your odyssey. It'd be a shame if we didn't hear from you for 11 years. And when you get back, you can brew us up some decaf and tell stories about all the cookin' jazz you heard on the tracks.

aloha...

...ah, I likes to stroll around the St. Al's campus after ding the graphical thingy, should end up doing it more often, yes yes...

has anyone else caught the "history of rock and roll" on TLC, last week? Checked out my main man Skunk Baxter in a beret...missed most of it but caught the two nites that profiled the DAN, of course.

(Clas-like Wayne's World) schmørgen. rudy.

Joe: Hey, one of my favorite kids in the world is named Joey, and Joejb just sounds cool to me. I wasn't aware of a double entendre, still haven't figured it out. Don't tell me - I'll be happier not knowing.

And I have no idea why WaltDog Becker has said ANYTHING he's ever said. But I like what he says, mostly, so far...

RB

RAZOR BOY; Hi, for the record, Lazy Nina was written for Greg Phillinganes. Itīs a good song but Greg uses too many machines on it.

HOWARD: D#maj7 Cm7# Bmaj7 Bbm7+... dr. Mu was first, is it Deacon Blues?

I guess Edd sitting with his nose in the sheetbooks and the CDs just as confused as everybody else here. Howard, come up with the answer else I think you are joking.

Clas

Oleander - I got your mail. No, not Rikki.

Not deacon Blues either ....

It's not a fake question! There really is a song that uses the 12 chromatic notes once and once only in one of the introduction phrases. I'll put you out of your misery soon if nobody gets it.

Think: early; think : bebop

Extra clue : the phrase ends on the 'devils note' - the flat 5th, then the first verse starts directly afterwards.

What a tease ...

Howard

hi everybody,

i have tried to purchase the - to my knowledge - two Cornelius Bumpus releases. no chance. does anybody know a possibility to get a copy or at least a tape? i should be pleased a lot. since i do not drop by very frequently, please respond to my email address. thanx a lot.

best regards,

Markus

hi everybody,

i have tried to purchase the - to my knowledge - two Cornelius Bumpus releases. no chance. does anybody know a possibility to get a copy or at least a tape? i should be pleased a lot. since i do not drop by very frequently, please respond to my email address. thanx a lot.

best regards,

Markus

Howard: I have no way of checking this right now (which makes it more fun) but are you looking for Your Gold Teeth? Just a guess.

lovebob

We have a winner!

Congratulations Bob, you win Clas' dog!

Yes, Your Gold Teeth is the track. It's that cunning fourth instrumental phrase in the introduction:

C B C# A# D A D# G# E G F F#

Love it. This had to be deliberate right? I can almost picture DF and WB having a laugh as they wrote this bit ... Strange guys, strange musical humour, great music.

I guess that's enough musical trivia for the moment. Strangely enough, this same track has one or two other quite unusual musical features, but let's give it a rest for the moment eh?

Howard

P.S The intro to YGT is a nice challenge on the guitar, but when you can get that last phrase OK, it feels good!

Clas:(re. Sunday's post) oh very X-file-ish indeed. You could have added that the CIA had placed sublimal audio onto each CD, guaranteed to turn all Dan listeners into opinionated musical snobs, which we all are no question!!!!

Oleander: I never said that you were two or more people! I just said that I found it scary that persons were taking on duality!!!! I didn't actually think that you were of two heads anyway. I have my suspicions elsewhere.

In fact, going along with Clas' theory, I believe that there is some counter/parralel culture on this board that is striving to take over world communictaion by capitalising on the intellects of worlds most sophisticated audiophiles.

DF & WB may be involved. Scully come save me, or more please!!!!!

Laters

ahhhhhhhhh!

Lucky: Any interest in LLB this weekend?

Howard: Thanks for the puzzlah. The be-bop hint was way to much, as evidenced from the bob "3:34am PST" tedde quick response.

I liked your question, Howard. It forced me to look at theory and re-look at Dan. "Throw Back the Little Ones" stands out as great song with an interesting intro, in it's own right.

LOVEBOB: Shouldn't you be getting some sleep, dreaming about those quirky little pink drinks Kinky buys for you at LeBarBat? Oh, Bob, requests, you asked? "I Can't Function, honey when you run me down" At least acoustic on Thursday right??

"..I'm working hard from morning till night, my shoulder bending to the wheel..."

maj.

Damn it! Bob was the first one with the right answer... but I was just posting now to tell Howard, that it was, scroll scroll... eh eh... scroll... Your Gold Teeth.

Doc K: Regarding the extraterrestrial invasion I witnessed. I didn't get many details; it all happened so fast. It was a day like any other, Mommies were kissing Daddies, then the milkman screamed and before I knew it, it was shredding time. A horrible invasion force was released: not multi-tentacled slimeglobs but the one thing I have no defense against-- pretty girls. The government sent two agents to check out my story but I told them nothing (the red headed one looked like one of tomorrow's girls). It happened to Rick Moranis too. You believe me don't you?

Oleander: Thank you fa-reminding me of Sly and the Family Stone. Those VH-1 clips of Sly, Stevie W, Jim Croce, and the J5 just aren't enough. I must find a way back to the 70's. Wait, then I'd have to listen to Debbie Boone and Tony Orlando again. Never mind.

The jazz quintet my son is in (ages 14-17), is playing at a local bar/restaraunt. The eatery is staging a 'Name the Band' contest. Any suggestions?

RS

RS: SavoyFaire?

How 'bout "Guernsey Fair"? Then, like the Dan, he'll have to explain that there is noone named Guernsey in the band....

...or on second thought, how about: YourGoldKeith !!

Going up to the studio to mix up tomorrow nights show. Have lots of Whack to fill in the news brief section at the end of the show. I've decided to use Junkie Girl to introduce the Governor Whitman interview.

laters, maj.

IM BACK!!

IVE BEEN AWAY FOR TOO LONG. EVEN MISSED THE PAGE CHANGE . STAL, YOU MUST HAVE BEEN WORKING OVERTIME AND I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT SOME OF US REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION AND SUPPORT FOR THIS CAUSE. I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU SOME MONEY BUT I CAN SINCE I DONT HAVE ANY BUT WHO KNOWS MAYBE SOMEDAY ILL BE RICH OR WIN THE LOTTO AND I WILL MAKE SURE YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE WHICH IS A LOT.

I REALLY LOVE THE BANYON TREE IN THE HOME PAGE, I WAS DREAMING ABOUT GIVING GOOD OLD DONALD OR EVEN WALTER (ALTHOUGH HES NOT AS CUTE) A BIG ONE UNDER THAT TREE !!! WHOOPY.

BUT PLEASE DONT THING I AN SEX CRAVED OK.

BUT STAL, YOU COULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE MORE SENSITIVE WITH THE DEFINITION. OK. BY NOW I GESS EVERYONE NOWS WHAT STEEL DAN IS ANYWAY BUT THERE IS NO NEED TO BRAG. RIGHT?????

I ALSO TRIED TO READ THE LATEST POSTS BUT IT IS TOO COMPLICATED. I WISH YOU WOULD KEEP IT SIMPLE. YOU KNOW LIKE KISS (KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID) AFTER ALL THE COOLES THING IS HOW SIMPLE AND BEAUTIFUL IS THE MUSIC OF STEELY DAN. SO WHY DO PLEOPLE TRY TO COME UP WITH DIFICULT STUF WHEN THEY SHOULD LET GO WITH THE SIMPLISTIC APPROACH OF STEELY. I DONT KNOW.

BYE.

O

WHO WILL SHARE WITH ME THAT THE SOCIALISTS WON IN FRANCE????

JO

IM BACK!!

IVE BEEN AWAY FOR TOO LONG. EVEN MISSED THE PAGE CHANGE . STAL, YOU MUST HAVE BEEN WORKING OVERTIME AND I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT SOME OF US REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION AND SUPPORT FOR THIS CAUSE. I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU SOME MONEY BUT I CAN SINCE I DONT HAVE ANY BUT WHO KNOWS MAYBE SOMEDAY ILL BE RICH OR WIN THE LOTTO AND I WILL MAKE SURE YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE WHICH IS A LOT.

I REALLY LOVE THE BANYON TREE IN THE HOME PAGE, I WAS DREAMING ABOUT GIVING GOOD OLD DONALD OR EVEN WALTER (ALTHOUGH HES NOT AS CUTE) A BIG ONE UNDER THAT TREE !!! WHOOPY.

BUT PLEASE DONT THING I AN SEX CRAVED OK.

BUT STAL, YOU COULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE MORE SENSITIVE WITH THE DEFINITION. OK. BY NOW I GESS EVERYONE NOWS WHAT STEEL DAN IS ANYWAY BUT THERE IS NO NEED TO BRAG. RIGHT?????

I ALSO TRIED TO READ THE LATEST POSTS BUT IT IS TOO COMPLICATED. I WISH YOU WOULD KEEP IT SIMPLE. YOU KNOW LIKE KISS (KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID) AFTER ALL THE COOLES THING IS HOW SIMPLE AND BEAUTIFUL IS THE MUSIC OF STEELY DAN. SO WHY DO PLEOPLE TRY TO COME UP WITH DIFICULT STUF WHEN THEY SHOULD LET GO WITH THE SIMPLISTIC APPROACH OF STEELY. I DONT KNOW.

BYE.

O

WHO WILL SHARE WITH ME THAT THE SOCIALISTS WON IN FRANCE????

JO

IM BACK!!

IVE BEEN AWAY FOR TOO LONG. EVEN MISSED THE PAGE CHANGE . STAL, YOU MUST HAVE BEEN WORKING OVERTIME AND I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT SOME OF US REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION AND SUPPORT FOR THIS CAUSE. I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU SOME MONEY BUT I CAN SINCE I DONT HAVE ANY BUT WHO KNOWS MAYBE SOMEDAY ILL BE RICH OR WIN THE LOTTO AND I WILL MAKE SURE YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE WHICH IS A LOT.

I REALLY LOVE THE BANYON TREE IN THE HOME PAGE, I WAS DREAMING ABOUT GIVING GOOD OLD DONALD OR EVEN WALTER (ALTHOUGH HES NOT AS CUTE) A BIG ONE UNDER THAT TREE !!! WHOOPY.

BUT PLEASE DONT THING I AN SEX CRAVED OK.

BUT STAL, YOU COULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE MORE SENSITIVE WITH THE DEFINITION. OK. BY NOW I GESS EVERYONE NOWS WHAT STEEL DAN IS ANYWAY BUT THERE IS NO NEED TO BRAG. RIGHT?????

I ALSO TRIED TO READ THE LATEST POSTS BUT IT IS TOO COMPLICATED. I WISH YOU WOULD KEEP IT SIMPLE. YOU KNOW LIKE KISS (KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID) AFTER ALL THE COOLES THING IS HOW SIMPLE AND BEAUTIFUL IS THE MUSIC OF STEELY DAN. SO WHY DO PLEOPLE TRY TO COME UP WITH DIFICULT STUF WHEN THEY SHOULD LET GO WITH THE SIMPLISTIC APPROACH OF STEELY. I DONT KNOW.

BYE.

O

WHO WILL SHARE WITH ME THAT THE SOCIALISTS WON IN FRANCE????

JO

HOW DO YOU GET OUT OF HERE//////?????

Fucking christ ALMIGHTY

JOSIE/CLAS/KINKY/WHOEVER. Take a fucking HIKE. Incompetence is no excuse.

StAl

I couldn't have said it any better...

Roy.Scam: I believe every thing you say... name the band? TEEN BOPPERS... That's probably too "square"... How about: SHAVED SQUIRREL SEXTET (this would require a mannequin.)...

Post-once for posterity...

All the band members play while they're sitting on these rickety old bar chairs and you call the band---- --- ---"LOOSE STOOL"

You know, the kids will flock in from miles around to hear them blow out their special music.

>>>>>JOSIE HI!! Mon Jun 9 16:16:13 PDT 1997 >>>>>IM BACK!!

Oh, thank God.

>>>>>IVE BEEN AWAY FOR TOO LONG.

Nope. No you haven't.

>>>>>I ALSO TRIED TO READ THE LATEST POSTS BUT IT IS TOO COMPLICATED.

Not half as complicated as trying to decipher your posts.

StAl/Edd Cote/Rudy/or whatever other pompous egomaniac you might be - You know, I think I will take a hike. This place sucks! I keep overestimating the intelligence on this board. These accusations are ridiculous, and didn't you once say that yourself? Your just one big walking contra-dick-tion with a boat. Although you are now a full-fledged-card-carrying member of Steely Dan with an "active" member's email address and a bathrobe, you're still just an arrogant fan. Not to mention, that after reading your revamped Under the Banyan "ME" page, you showed your true colors, once again. How fucked up is blatantly dissing other Dan sites? Hey guys, am I the only one that noticed how uncool our host really is? Probably... Hey Al - who made you saint anyway?

That horrible headache is back in my eye....

El Sup

Goodbye Kinky.

C

kinky has got the arse on!!! Who tweaked his pecker??

Bit pissed off are you, Kinkster???

Sit down and have a nice cup of tea!!!!! Then come back and be a nice person again!!!!

I believe that you are a good person! My euro-counterpart Clas has called your bluff!!! but will you be back!!!!

Only time will tell!!!!

Laters

BOB: I forgot to ask you, in what condition do you want the dog, dead or alive. A simple advice; take it dead.

StAl: Ignore Kinky, donīt be sad, heīll be back. But, do you know the whereabouts of my friend Gaucho?

Galley West

Kranky spills forth:

"You know, I think I will take a hike. This place sucks!"

No, please... say it ain't so! You're breaking my heart!

And then I read:

"Hey guys, am I the only one that noticed how uncool our host really is?"

Say Hal,

Don't go! After all, forget StAl and the others... YOU'VE contributed SO MUCH of your own personal time and effort to these Dan Pages. I've gotten so much enlightenment regarding what IS and IS NOT acceptable around here from you.

YOU are the saint my son. Just look at some of the incredibly useful services that you provide around here...

1) Having to write here to correct the majority of others who don't have a clue.

2) Putting pins to some inflated egos so there's room for the rest of us.

Where the hell would the rest of us driveling idiots be without you I ask??? I must admit, until I read this heart felt note of yours, I really didn't realize just how altruistic and selfless you really are Hal... You ARE the spokesman for the little guy around here, and nobody appreciates that Hal. Well, I'm here to say that I do! You are my hero Hal!

Say Babs, maybe we didn't do such a bad job after all.

I have to go now... I'm just too upset.

I have been thinking all day. Howard - this question he had - from Edd Cote no answer - what does that mean.

the moll buzzer

Clas: I don't know, maybe Edd's disappeared?

I was wondering the same thing myself. Maybe he's in the middle of writing another analysis of a Steely Dan song. Have many of you guys checked these out from edd's Web pages? Quite interesting ..... but he seems to have a weak spot when it comes to rhythms. Like, Bodhissatva starts with three bars of four, one bar of three, then the rest is in four?

Hmm, I don't think so. All this because he mistakenly heard the first drum hit as being on the onbeat, so he needed some time signature tweakage to fix things in time for when the guitars etc come in. Strange, when the same drum hit is on the offbeat for the rest of the song ...

Also, he's got the first bar of 'Time out of mind' as being in 3/8. A bit over the top? I find it a lot simpler to think of the drum intro as being the last three 8th notes of a regular bar of 4/4. I mean, can we really imagine these guys counting in to this one with 'one - two - three' , and then jumping into 4/4 after three beats?

Apart from these somewhat embarrassing gaffs, the rest is well done, and seems quite interesting. Havn't really had the time to read through it in much detail though ...

Anyway, one more comment on Your Gold Teeth. This has to be the the SD track that stays longest on one chord doesn't it? All the keyboard solo and all of Denny's guitar solo is over a single chord of Cm7. Pretty rare for D and W. The only other similar occasion is in 'Do It again' . The verses and the solos have long sections on one chord, but it does actually change 'Back Jack do it again etc').

Incidentally, anyone else spot the fluffs on Walter's bass lines at one or two of these points? He gets a bit *too* stuck in the Gm7 groove and forgets to go up to C once or twice, catching up a beat or two later! We forgive him. He did play one of the finest guitar solos ever a few years later in 'Josie'.

Howard

Major: You're using "Junkie Girl" as an intro theme for a lady politician? Cujones grandes, mi amigo. Let me suggest that you begin the speaking before you get to the "..fucked up world" passage (or was that the idea?). "Tomorrow's Girls" would be a good one also; doesn't it mention Jersey?

Thanks, folks, for the name-the band suggestions for my son's adolescent combo. It's still two weeks till the winner's announced, so keep them coming. I fear that "Loose Stool" might be too controversial, albeit appropriate, in that the restaraunt sells primarily Mexican food.

You'll have to have them all pulled out after the Savoy Taco, RS

Almost forgot - I meant to include a link to Edd's Bodhisatva analysis for those that are interested in having a look. Go if you want to know more.

I just noticed that Edd has actually included a footnote (in letters at least 2 millimetres high) to the effect that, yes, it is a hell of a lot easier if you count the first snare hit in Bodhisatva as being on the SECOND beat of the first bar. For some reason, Edd likes the idea of it being on the FIRST beat of the bar, and then has to juggle time signatures of 3/4 and 4/4 to make sure that everything is sweet by the time the other instruments come in. Well, he does say 'maybe I overanalyse'. Sometimes, I think he does. Maybe it's worth putting the 'simple' analysis in letters so that people can actually read it though?

(Maybe it's also worth commenting that the first bar of time out of mind doesn't have to be 3/8 as well? 4/4 is another nice easy solution to this one too)

Apart from the strange interpretations on the rhythms, the rest seems interesting. Take a look!

Howard

>

Sh*t. Guess who forgot to include one of those little '>' characters?

Well, at least you have a NICE BIG AREA to aim out with the mouse! Can't fail to find that link now can you?

Ah hell, it's too late.... time to quit and go home.

Howard

YGK : Wrong, i'm 15.

StAl : Ok , I got it. Yesterday I spent some time with my girlfriend from school who knows a lot about the intenet and she told me all these things about being polite in the internet. Sorry!!!!!!!!!! I didn't know that I was SCREAMING (last time!!!!!).

All : I have to say that there is a lot of bad feelings around and we all should try to live happily. I see all of you as friends, even Kinky, who I think used my name and placed a post last week without even consulting. Now he's mad because StAl caught him and he's just so pissed off. Can't we just be a little humane and happy and civilised????

Erica/Amanda: You seem to be the only women out there. Don't you think these guy are being a little bad. He, he,he, eh.... He Mandy, do you have dark hair. You name sounds like you have dark hair.!!!!!!

StAl :Again, don't get mad at me. Here is something for you that I learned yesterday. I hope you like it.

:-)

Bye.

Hey Kinkster. Me thinks you need to remove the board that is firmly shoved up your ass. As USUAL you missed the humor. Remember something. This is a rock and roll band we are (sometimes) discussing.

About me being an egomaniac. It is difficult to maintain a site like this without sounding like one. Think about this, dufus, when I talk about myself, in many cases it is in the third person. I go OUT OF MY WAY to not take credit for something that isn't deserved. I work very hard on this site. It takes up a fair amount of my time. What do you do? Sit around here waiting to prove to everyone how much you know about this band. CONSTANTLY berating people. Telling them how inferior they are to your SD intellect.

Sounds like you're the fucking egomaniac. So all I have to say is don't let the door hit'ya where the good lord split'ya.

It's too bad really. I enjoy your posts. Though many times you go overboard with your insults, I find that quite often yours make me laugh the hardest. I'm gonna miss your presence. So you can go back to whacking off to Hey Nineteen and taking this shit way too serious you old sour puss.

Lastly. I really never thought it was you acting as JOSIE in disguise. I included your name to merely elicit a reaction. Your as predictable as the sun rise.

Howard: Thanks for coming back and checking. One time someone pulled that and it carried on for at least a half dozen posts before someone who knew at little HTML put an end to it.

Peace,
the uncool, unSTAl

TEST

TEST

Re: Rockola this Thurs (unplugged) Fri & Sat in NYC

Just giving a rundown of the names I have on the guestlist for Rockola at Le Bar Bat this weekend:

Adam Davis +1 (Thurs & Sat)

Malcolm H +1 (Fri & Sat)

Sean Kregness +1 (Fri & Sat)

Hal A +1 (Sat)

Scott Silver +3 (Fri)

Again, this is a complimentary guestlist, just give your name at the door. If anyone else would like to come, email me or post it here.

Kink, lighten up, I'll see you Sat.

I've changed my site around a bit, cutting down on the download time. I'm also going to add some wav files to the soundbytes that are already there. The dl time's a killer, but the quality is worth it. If you have the time, I suggest checking out that live Josie tune with Drew Zingg on wav, I should have it up shortly. I also plan on putting up a new soundbytes page featuring a SD song by Amanda and Dean Parks.

This forum will self destruct in 30..29...28..27......................................................

>Anthony > >Show me My Rival! > >Has anyone ever heard this one live? How was it? I >love the studio version, so measured and >punctuated...what do y'all think about it?

Anthony, I once said "they use rhythm as a wepon" in that song.

John Rohland, bookkeepers son

Roy.Scam

For band names;

I always liked "Drive By Shooting".

Another is: Lickety-split

HOWARD: Actually, I used Hat Too Flat right after Whitman's interview. Tomorrow's Girls would have been good too. Hell, I just interviewed a future presidential candidate and included the Dan in the same segment. Sleep now. Rest for LLB.

maj.

A formal apology

After re-reading Kinky's post I decided to pay special attention to the comment about me slamming another site in the SD world. At first I had know idea what he meant, so I went on a little surfing expedition and I quickly realized it must have been the comment about bad icons and midi files. This comment has been removed from the page. Now, for an explanation.

I recently started a small business that specializes in web page development. Over the last few weeks I've had to give out links to my work -- the Banyan Tree page being one of them. I didn't want a page with over 200k of graphics on it, so I changed the front page, plus, I wanted to prove the point that I didn't feel animated icons and midi files were appropriate in a business environment. Like an IDIOT, I wasn't even paying attention to the fact that this was an entertainment-based page and that my fellow brothers and sisters may have been employing some of the very techniques I was dissing.

To anyone I might have insulted I totally apologize. I am truly sorry.

Understand that this is not some sort of competition between the other SD sites and myself. In fact it's just the opposite. In many cases we've actually contributed to one-another's content development and so on.

The difficult thing is Kinky's response. His online personality is the type that makes doing this a difficult experience. Anyone who knows me, or has met me, knows that I mean no one any harm. Because of people like this, you have to constantly be on guard. Thinking - "Jeez, am I gonna offend xyz, or is abc gonna take this the wrong way." You can't even poke a little fun at them without searing consequences.

So, is it jealousy? Is it becasue they are bored. Is it because they have a really little penis and are pissed off becuase of it? I know I would be.....snicker. I just don't know. Help me out here Ms. D...

Peace, StAl

Hey St Al: The correct answer is C.

Hey everyone, I just come home, first I worked, then I met somebody. Josie, thanks for your post. Where do you live? In USA or europe? I wish we could meet someday. You have a leatherjacket? I think that is a coold thing to wear. And StAl, all about this rubberpenis that Marie is strapping that you wrote on the side before this guestbook, is it because you want to insult me because I am a croupier and lesbian. Erica

HOWARD: Show Biz Kids is a one-chord song. Dm7.

"Hmm, I don't think so. All this because he mistakenly heard the first drum hit as being on the onbeat..." He did? Wow, I donīt trust Edd anymore. I mean, itīs so obvious that the snare is on the offbeat in the beginning. Ptui. Swampcity. Barf.

StAl: What is this that you call Kinky Hal? Hal Leonard?

I was listen very close to Jerome Aniton introducing Steely at Civic Center. And he presents the band as STEELY DAN, not STEVE DAN that someone said here before.

Talking about Steve, I watched Letterman last night, Winwood was guest. Good song and a very cool groove. (but this Paul Schaffer, I havenīt heard he play a cool chop ever. And the sounds he uses!)

Erica: Hi (if you are a real person, if not, no hi)

Kitchen Clean, clas

" I also plan on putting up a new soundbytes page featuring a SD song by Amanda and Dean Parks".

Please?

Kinky is a noodnik.

Well there certainly seems to be a fair amount of Kinky bashing going on!!!!!!

To those of you who suggested Boz Scaggs albums to acquire, I give my thanks.

Clas: How's your weather? It's hot and muggy in London!

Mr Fogel: Does the guest list stretch as far as free seats on an airline! I would like to be there but I don't think that I can afford the cab fair home!

Purchased Chick Corea 'Light Years' on LP at the weekend. Sounds great and David Weckl's fantastic. Mind you, it is a tad Miami Vice in style and not up to the innovativeness of My Spanish Heart that you guys recommended!

Howard: Enjoyed the 'Bodhisattva' page very much. I like the idea of the foot jumping gene!!!

God I hate my job. I am so bored!!!!!!!!!!

laters

pretzel with cheese

Come join the fun @ irc EFNet #SteelyFanz

I am alone there. If I see you I will say hello. I am at work, so I won't be able to monitor it that closely.

Edd: I am not sure about the Japan reference, but China is also a criminal term for traded Cocaine.

Given the nods that SD quite often give to such matters, I had thought that maybe this is where it came in. But maybe you are right in that the song is about interior kitchen design!!!

Byesee bye!

Lawdy, look what happens when I take a few days off...

re: "Your Gold Teeth" quiz...

For reasons that aren't germane to the discussion, I always read the Guestbook *backwards*, from latest post up. Due to this, I read the correct answer to the question before I even knew what the question was. I've no idea if I would have known the answer.

re: my deconstructions

I put 'em up as entertainment, purely to give *my* thoughts on the songs. Take them as gospel or with a grain of salt, I don't care. Read them closely and you'll notice I often point out my own shortcomings.

To those of you who've enjoyed them, I thank you.

To those of you who read them, disagree, and start a discussion around that, I thank you for your opposing point of view, but if you want more than a cursory acknowledgement (like the dropped beat footnote in Bodisattva), post it on your own site and I'll provide a pointer.

To those of you who just want to read them and then find some reason to call me a fool, go fuck yourselves.

I figure ANY discussion about the band and the music is better than the juvenile drivel that constitutes 90% of the posts here.

Edd

Per Usual......Well Sedd Edd.....

*putting on the garb for Sat. at LBB*

Hope that's waterproof garb, YGK. ;>

What's happening with the new recording? Who's got the news?

Jack of Speed, Wetside, Cash Only Island, ?Fall of 92?, what else??

maj.

StAl:

Something tells me that John G., Jim McKay, Pete Fogel, Rudy, The Dan, et al. were probably not at all offended by your rather harmless little comment about bad icons and midi files. Only the clueless would interpret your comments as a personal affront to their web page. You needn't apologize to anyone. And thanks again for all of your hard work.

Edd: Wish I'd said that.

Joe

Howard: I agree about the "Josie" guitar solo. It's a great one, and leaves no doubt in my tiny mind as to the "chops" of the soloist. Who could differ? My personal favorite guitar solo is in the middle of "Black Friday", especially during that stop (on the dominant chord I believe) when the lead guitar screams a riff that sounds like the phrase "missed the Saturday dance" from Duke Ellington's "Dont Get Around Much Anymore". I'm theorizing that WB was thinking "..missed the Saturday dance.." when he played that lick, since , if there was an economic collapse on a Friday, we might all miss the Saturday dance. Over-analyzing probably , but I love that solo. I want to eat it; I want to hard wire it into my core memory; I want to have it's children. Well anyway, it's a darn good solo.

Santo Alfonso: Non sweatum les assenholiums. May you live on in 15 ways.

Easy question: What SD song begins with a reverse fade out?

RS

Hold my calls....

Weird tie-in here:

All this talk about the "Josie" guitar solo (it is indeed exquisite) and RS's Ellingtonian observations on "Black Friday" etc. got me thinking about another similar Dan/40's era musical correlation. Bird composed a tune back in '47 entitled "Scrapple From the Apple". I've always felt Don+Walt utilized the terms "scrapple" and "apple" from this tune as: 1) a convenient rhyme sheme for "Josie" and 2) a nod to Mr. Parker.

Another post for the over-analysis pile.

Joe

Hey StAl!

You crusty old fuck...nice work, you blew that old web site up real good, didn't you? And, yes, I couldn't agree more - you look magnificent in light blue, it is your perfect color.

Why reinvent the wheel. Don't you think so.

Gaucho Homosexual

Ok, I'll lighten up. Here's a little joke I hope you will enjoy.

Josie goes to her dad and says " Dad, I can't take it. I lied to you and I now must tell the truth".

Dad goes "Ok"

Josie: "I told you I was going to the movies with Martha but I really went to the park with Clas".

Dad: "Ok"

Josie: "And as you know, I like him a bit so we had a bottle of wine and laid in the grass by a tree".

Dad: "Ok"

Josie: "So Clas started to kiss me and caress me and he then placed his hand on my back and undid my bra"

Dad: "Josie, you should go and tell that story to your Mom because it's making me horny"

Uhu.... So here's the sequel.

Josie: "Dad, would you let me go to the movies with Martha"

Dad: "No way, we already know what happens then, right"

Josie: "Promise Dad, this one's for real"

Dad : "Ok, I'll let you go on one condition"

Josie: "What"

Dad: "If you suck me first"

Josie thinks (If I don't do it I'll be stuck in this fucking house all day) so she goes "Ok" Now she's sucking, but............

Josie: "Ohh FUCK, you dick tastes like SHIT!!!"

Dad: "Sorry, your brother wanted the car this morning"

Kinki, kinki... and all this time I thought you were a puss..

Roy.Scam: Black Friday

And I'd love to hear more about that wild week you had. Picked up a girl at a car wreck. Hmmm, sounds kind of romantic.

re: band name - I always liked one-word band names best. (My favorite band name is the Kinks) But I think I'd go with something science fiction or techno, like subspace, tachyon or quantum something. People seem to be drawn to star things.

George: I love the live Black Friday!! They do it with a certain flair.

RB

Isn't it funny how you can be in the darndest, cheesiest places (i.e. the mall, Chuck E. Cheese, the drug store, the grocery store, Biscuitville, the corparate elevator, the can, The GAP) and all of a sudden a Dan song will come on (maybe in the form of MUZACK, making it even more funny) and make everuthing all right! You don't want to leave until you can criticize the arragement and absorb the emptiness of copycat clone tones stinging your ears. All the while, the original, the way know and love it simultaneously plays in your gullever. That's just one of beauties of da' boys music. Big up to SD fans around the world!!!

Gaucho: How did you know. Come over here you sexy thing.

Deacon: WOULDN'T you know something like this happened to me tonight. I was tossin back a few at my favorite seedy bar and low-and-behold -- during a visit to the CAN -- wafted the smooth sounds of "Josie". Full Muzak treatment in place I just had to hang out and listen.

Actually sounded like one of those bad midi files....

Peace, StAl

SAN FRAN: Hi, itīs hot here in Stockholm, but not muggy. And you should see the swedish girls.

But Kinky: Iīd love to make a pass on Josie, but sheīs 15 man! Do you think I wanne spend time in jail?

I was listen very close to Jerome Aniton introducing Steely at Civic Center. And he presents the band as STEELY DAN, not STEVE DAN that someone said here before. (edd?)

HI GAUCHO! I donīt have any second thoughts about your homo-thing. you are still my friend. let me ask you a question, if, I say IF, I was eh... well... you know, the way you are, would you come on to me then? I mean IF I had... well, I mean, are you attracted to me?

The Bench Warmer

PS Show Biz Kids: Dm7

St Al: Yeah, I slipped up, but caught myself in time before the entire page turned into a huge link to Edd's stuff. A little HTML knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Edd: good to see you're back! I don't think anybody's been calling anybody 'fools' here - I was just interested in opening up the discussion on some of these songs. I figured this place is the best place for it. Anyway, it's good that someone puts in a little time and effort into this kind of analysis. I'm sure a lot of us enjoyed reading it - but yes, I did have some opposing points of view, on some of the rhythm things anyhow. I don't have the time to write these kind of things up on a Web page, that's why I added my comments here.

... and you're right, there is a lot of waffle in this guestbook. I was trying to bring in a little more discussion on music, lyrics, song structure - anything to do with SD. It seems like you'd be into some discussion on this analysis kind of thing - I look forward to more of the same. By the way, how many songs have you done? In the archives I think I saw Bodhisatve, Time out of mind and Deacon Blues. Any others?

Final comment (everyone else skip this cos you're bored with the heavy musical dissection right?). On TOOM, here's my take on the bar counting. I *think* this is similar to the second way of doing things that you mention on your page. I've lost the link now so i can't check. We have a three note lead-in on the drums (for me, this really has to be the end of a 4/4 bar, not a 3/8 bar) - then, two bars of a 'mini introduction'. At the end of this two bars the three note figure comes up on the drums again to mark the end of this little section. Then, the guitar etc comes in, and there are 8 bars of introduction. (2 times through the main verse sequence). At the end of this 8 bar intro, the vocals start with a 'lead-in' phrase, so that the end of the word 'ready' is the start of the verse section. Now, you have 8 bars of verse. Next, and this is where things start to get interesting, you have a six bar 'pre-chorus' section - 3 lots of a two bar change. Now into the chorus .....

Of course, there are some further twists later on as you point out. The 6 bar 'pre-chorus' ends up being a full 8 bars on later repeats, just to keep everybody on their toes.

Clas: show biz kids - Dm7 ?

OK, I'm a pedantic git, I have to comment on this. I listened through last night to check, and I would say it's not all one chord of Dm7, rather two or maybe three chords, repeated over and over. The bass line goes D A C D A C D etc etc The C is just a passing note though, so the main bass notes are D and A. In the piano right hand, I hear three triads - F, G and C (the triad spellings are CFA, DGB, CEG - the top note matters!). The sequence is F G F C F G F C etc etc The backing vocals just sing the F G triads over and over.

Put all this together, and I figure you end up with :

Dm7 G/A Dm7 Am7 (repeat a few hundred times ...)

The song definitely wins a prize of some sort for using just one chord sequence throughout, but I don't think it wins the 'staying on one chord for the longest time' prize. Maybe there are other SD songs that stick with one chord longer than the solos in Your Gold Teeth?

(I have a strong memory of buying Kamakiriad when it first came out, I put it on, and sat there for quite some time listening to Trans-island skyway thinking - OK, yeah, nice - now change chord for god's sake!!)

OK. I've droned on for far too long now.

Howard

hi, when i visited this site the last time, i posted my little Cornelius Bumpus records request without having read the things going on here. now i know why i have got no answer so far. this used to be a SD site some months ago. what has happened? StAl, donīt you think it is a pity? you mentioned this is a rockīnīroll site about a band ... nevertheless, you are doing a great job. Maybe this site will be dealing more music again after the next SD release.

bye

Markus

HOWARD, ok ok ok, I am moron, a useless fuck, I have listening to dan-shit for 25 years and I still donīt know a shit!

OK JOSIE: Do you wanne fuck with me?

Gaucho: Do YOU wanne fuck with me???

Clas

VIVA LA FRANCE! VIVA LA FRANCE! VIVA LA FRANCE! VIVA LA FRANCE!

For the record, I also believe the 3 8th notes that start off "Time Out Of Mind" are, indeed, the end of a standard 4/4 measure, a common pick-up phrase. Why I kept referring to them as a measure of 3/8 alludes me...

The Bodisattva thing though, I'm sticking to my guns. No matter how hard I try, I just find it easier to start it on "1" and drop the beat later. At best I'll acknowledge it really doesn't matter, as long as everyone hits the important downbeat at the right time.

Edd

Edd: Ok, great, we can agree on this 3/8 4/4 thing!

As for Bodhisatva, fine, stick with what you prefer. As you say, as long as everyone can tap along without getting lost, it doesn't matter much how you do it. I have to make a strong conscious effort to count 2 and 4 on the first two drum hits to make sure i get the right feel. Otherwise, it's very easy to settle on the first hit as being '1'. Either way, as long as you're there when the guitars come in, fine. Now, if they'd only have left a count-in on the track there would be no problems ...

Now i think about it, there are a couple of Police songs that are even worse in this respect. They start off, and you think 'fine, I can tap my foot to this one ...', then afetr a period which can be anything between 4 bars and 40 seconds, you hear a little 'jump' in the beat, and suddenly you're thrown ... For a while you don't know what hit you, then you realise you were tapping to the off beat instead of the on beat, or vice versa. Spirits in the material world was the worst one for this. I would listen to it a hundred times, and the intro and first verse would always be heard one way (with the guitar chops being *on* the beat) then suddenly, a beat would go 'blip', and once in the chorsu i could lock on to the real beat. From there on I was fine. It took me a long while to be able to do the mental 'flip' on the first verse so i was hearing it the right way!

Same thing with Bodhisatva really, except you only have 4 bars to do the 'flip'.

OK, enough of this musical waffle. We don't want to bore people here ...

Josie: watch out, this place is dangerous.

Howard

By sheer luck today I passed through Elizabeth's room. As she was not at the terminal, I glanced at the screen and read. Now I understand why there's all this conundrum on the TV about banning the internet and sending to jail all you sick people. I would advise you to stop all this activity or I'll be forced to contact the police to let them know that there is soliciting and child pornography on this internet browser.

One has to imagine just how smart Liz's mom is. She just gets her first glance at the web and immediately knows how to post a reply and what fields can be filled in with bogus info...

JoeM: I think you're right about the apple/scrapple rhyme in JOSIE. The word 'scrap' would have been good for that line, but didn't fit the meter; so add a syllable, rhyme it with apple and nod again to Mr. Parker and his band. My question is: What was Charlie P thinking when he named his song? Sometimes those jazz and blues guys would write a song just because they had a good breakfast (or something similar). scrapple--seasoned ground meat mixed with meal, sliced, and fried. apple--some food or a large metropolitan area in the Northeastern USA. Maybe the Dan were referring to a Beatles record (remember the big apple picture on the vinyl discs?)

Ruby: Black Friday is the correct answer (to the fade-in question). Did that come straight from the random access part of your brain or did you have to research it?

St. Al: First you become a sailor, then you do your guestbook up in blueprint blue, then you spell your name with a lisp, and finally you find yourself standing in a seedy bathroom, Mr. Happy in hand, humming along with JOSIE. If there's something you need to tell us, we can talk it out till daylight.

RS

Markus: You asked about Cornelius' solo albums, he actually released a couple. "A Clear View" in '82 and "Beacon" in '83 were both released on Broadbeach Records and are extremely hard to find.

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Roy.Scam: That was an interesting supranormal happening - I mean Black Friday being somehow in the air when you had asked for an answer. Methinks Ruby mentioned Black Friday after listening to a passionate cover version performed live by late 70's band LAKE. But who knows 4 sure?

RRRubee: glad you like it!

StAl: g'morning!

George: What would be even more supranormal is if the stock market crashed today (ulp...F-F-F-Friday the 13th) in the wake of our prophetic discussion.

Geo: I don't remember the band LAKE. Any relation to Emerson and Palmer?

Happy Friday, Don't let it fall on me, RS

Hello for Steely Dan likers. I hope being remembered for before. Here is that I'm thinking if TOMORROW'S GIRLS are telling jokes each one to the other. Please laugh hardly.

Not-My-Nancy: What is that has 3 balls and is from outer space? Not-My-Brenda: And I do not know. Not-My-Nancy: Then that is E.T. the Extra-testicle.

Yortek

EddCote- what is the Boston Rag? Has Boz Scaggs ever gotten together with W or D in any other gig besides NYR&SR?

So I just want to confirm that the various S*oracles* agree that "My Rival" has *never* been done live(?)???? -also upon reflection I continue to think that "Everyone's Gone To The Movies" ala '96 was one of the best *live* syntheses :Josie,Home At Last&Black Cow were awewsome too- ok so "Do It Again"& "Midnight Cruiser" soothed the soul too- and maybe "Green Earrings" & DTMA..............

Clas, so does that make you a US govt. employee? No wonder you have so much time on your hands.

Howard, welcome, didn't see you there. What's your beverage?

BKsSon, could not have said it better, thanks.

Alternate vocalists: if the Dan had to play a gig, no getting out of it, but Donald's vocal chords were gone for the day, who would be a great stand in?

What's the word on the Rockola gigs? I wanted like all hell to be there.

maj.

Anthony: Hi there. Beverage? A fine scottish malt with a splash of water usually does the trick. Am in the process of tasting my way through Scotland, but Macallan seems to be the winner so far.

Does anyone have any info on which SD CDs are the best in terms of being glitch free? My Aja CD has a bad one on the repeat part of the intro to Josie (just before the outtro starts) - it jumps about 5 or 10 milliseconds or something. The CD has no scratches etc, so it must be a bad pressing. Anyone else have any problems with theirs? I remember reading something about bad batches of CDs, but does anyone have the numbers of the good ones?

Howard

what is a pinshot anyway?!?

Roy.Scam: I just thought of it. Black Friday WAS the main topic. I could hear it the moment you asked the question.

Anthony: Hello! Alternate vocals? Heaven forbid! Well, you've got imagination and I like that. I'm thinking that Rick Ocasek would be interesting. He could do Hey 19 and maybe Show Biz Kids. I haven't seen or thought of him in a long time. What's he doing these days?

George: It's one of my favorite tapes. All I had to do was let George do it!

RB

Stend'or of the Rill: Congratualtions on winning the Millenium Anthem song contest. However, I think that once you get a peek at some of the seedier portions of Los Angeles, you may decide to get an early start on moppifying the planet!

Later, Beautiful Survivor

My first dive into HTML hell and I didn't fry!!! There is hope for me yet.

new to this shit, but not the band, who or what is that introducing the live version of bodhisattva on the cd? Hmmmmmm? it is wonderful and reminds me of the good old days at santa monica civic....hehehehheh...begs the question, IF there is a recording of this tune @ SMCC aren' t there some more??? I always wanted to kiss a mule....