REALLY! Don't you have anything better to do?

You try to figure but you're way too dumb wrote:

"Could we please move away from the $700,000 question? I don't know what's worse, the gullibility of Ruby, or the fact that the rest of you can't figure out what she's talking about. Is this really happening?"

and then

just another freak wrote:

"the clueless retards (ruby, et. al.) on the gb never cease to amaze/disappoint me with their bountiful stupidity. and I always thought we dan fans were all a semi-intelligent bunch...I'm proven wrong with every day with some of the posts here. I bet Dolly, the cloned sheep is clued in enough to get the 700,000 deal..."

Well, talk about not having a clue! Just cause she didn't put a ;-) after the post! Look in the mirror assholes! And BTW, you dumb fucks missed the point she was making completely...

Ruby, as good an idea as the bond thing is and as loyal a following as the Dan have, they just are the counter culture pop icons that David Bowie is, ie the bonds probably would have lesser interest. Also, please stay warm and wonderful in spite of these morons.

Edd- okay, you got to me with your post about the Nightfly cover art. What is the microphone cord went through a hole in the table!

Totally OK with it, Paul C

Not the icons...

What if...

"...respect the seven second delay we use"

Edd: Chkd out your DB page last week, I'm w/YGK.

Rudy: As always, I enjoy your stoff.

Doorpeoplesleeping: Hertzliche Wilkommen! Much/varied chatter here.

clas: you prick. keep your euro angle to yourself, unless you plan on buying 50 copies to distribute this way.

Zeke: C'mon 'Fest!

amanda: one week till blast-off!

Re: DaveMatthews........ Checked him out locally 6 wks ago. Changed my view. Not a popular alternative to neo-hippy types. Good groove, IMHO. However, saw him in duo form with Tim Reynolds. 2-3/4 hour intimate show with fun audience(~4000)interaction.

Open comment: It is once again Hoosier Hysteria time. Indiana high school basketball is huge statewide(recall "Hoosiers" film), and this is the LAST year for single-class b-ball. No longer will a 1-A school be allowed to play against a 4/5-A school in the tourney. A very heated, spitting debate continues on the state legislature floor. The principals will win. Multi-class is coming. :-(

Time to update wx and do the news...

"In this everlasting twilight..."

earthbound: blast-off? whaddya mean? and re: dave matthews, the reason i brought it up is because i saw a show on the same tour you saw a week ago, and thought it was quite cool (though rather self-indulgent on the part of the artists at some points). after that i started listening to my friend's dmb cd... really began to dig the style. the show did get long though... i kinda nodded off about 2/3 of the way through.... oh well.

amanda

Last Call For Music Hall: THE STEELY DAMNED-- Tonite--- The Great American Music Hall--- San Fransisco--- 859 O' Farrel--- 8PM till at least 1AM--

good night now

lovebob

Thank God somebody posted about Maxine She was apparently lurking to see if anybody cared. Maybe she should try another guestbook, cuz ya know those damn dan fans, they wallow in self importance. They juuuust dooownt care

Yo, Whiney Stranger, don't click here. I don't want responsibility for ruining your day.

The rest of you should feel free to follow the link.

Edd

Hey there, fellow Dan Fans...

I recently bought a (bootleg?)copy of "Live in '94" Has anyone else heard it? i wasnt surprised "Fall of '92" didnt make it onto 11TOW after I'd heard it, but "Hey 19" sounds really good live , especially with DF's little vocal additions with the girls doing the "...Cuervo Gold..the fine Columbian.." thing at the coda. The little 'Royal Scam/Bad Sneakers/Aja' opening instrumental isnt bad, wodner why they boys didnt put something like that on AIA.. Overall, it isnt bad, but it isnt anything I havent heard before. Methinks I'll sell it. Any takers?

Chuckles

wassup with the new steely album

I have finally been released from the clinic, so before I read any of the nonsense bullshit that has been written the last couple of weeks, I just want to say that I love Steely Dan so much that if I had a chance to fuck Tyra Banks, Donald Fagen or Walter Becker, I would kill myself because I wouldn't be able to decide between Walter Becker or Donald Fagen.

By the way if anyone was wondering, I was in the clinic for hitting my girlfriend. Can you believe that bullshit?

RUBYBABY; And then I think "The Goodbye Look" has great lyrics. Listen to the line... "I know a fellow with a motorlaunch for hire, a skinny man with two-tone shoes". We all know what kind of guy that is. And Fagen just describes the man as a skinny man with two-tone shoes. And the line when the soldier is knocking on the door... "his stupid face, the glasses and the gun". We also know that kind of fellow, don´t we? I love the Becker/Fagen lyrics, I get pictures in my mind. And for the parts I don´t understand, I just put in my own fantasy there... I guess it´s why I love their music/lyrics so much.

Maxine; Sorry if you are confused here about that dog - glasses - thing. But I can give Ruby permission to tell you. On a private Email. Ah, what the hell, it´s no big deal anyway.

Spring is here, Hi from Stockholm

"I still recall when I first held your tiny hand in mine"

amanda: I'll be in Phoenix next Monday!!! Will try hard to hit Casa Grande(NM). Looking forward to the Big Hole, Wapatki, Canyon de Chelly, Organ Pipe Cactus(NM), painted desert, Sedona(!), and likely, Vegas.

Edd: nice dissection once again.

ALL: Springtime... Yesterday twilight, I had to pull off the road, stop the vehicle, and gaze skyward as thousands, if not tens of 1000s of migrating birds danced and sang from leafless tree to phoneline to leafless tree. The sunset was that eery pink/peach hue. Birds lined up on the wire in 1/4 mile stretches. Then, all at once, they'd take to the sky in a swarming, circling array. In the end, wave after wave descended upon a very tall double-sided billboard, congregating amidst the gridwork between the sides. I wondered how it would feel to fly in weaving formations without a mishap -- you know, there wasn't one mid-air collision. I suspect it's due to good communication.

"I heard it was you..."

Re: Dave Matthews Band, great band, the singing ruins it though - if dave would shut up and get a better singer, I would listen

fez

Fezzy:

Re: DMB: they should hire Walter for their vocalist! That would be cool. "What would you say..."

So hello once more.

Good to see that I am not alone in the Mike McDonald appreciation stakes.

I must confess that I am not particularly aware of the DMB. Are they any good?

Clas: if nose candy has you bemused, try 'upward bogey snow' or the distinctly British 'Charlie'...

Joni Mitchell, she's okay. I like Court 'n Spark very much, but some other albums are a bit too mellow for me.

We used to have a show over here called 'The Old Grey whistle Test'. they had Steely Dan footage, Reelin' in the Years as it happens. The only footage I have seen ever.

Someone noted earlie, the union of jazz and good ole' rock 'n roll in the Dan's repertoire. Funny that, 'cos the absolute best songs they did at Wembley, last September, were Black Cow and My Old School. The former was the thumping bass and punch, you know the daahh duh duh; the latter was the scorching brass and bomb dropping snare.

laters pretzel dmb discussers

CLAS: Hey, strapping Nordic bear - let's frolic in the springtime! I know what you mean about The Goodbye Look. It reminds me of CasaBlanca. Did you ever see that one? I gotta let my imagination soar,too. WB&DF's lyrics are the best for that!! I've been thinking that while the lyrics are great, the way Donald Fagen sings it makes the words even better. He transcends any language.

About the cheering up Maxine thing: I think no one could describe what happened to you & Pompe as well as you can! But I know what wrestling a big dog who wants to lick a tiny dog to death is like; but not in the mud while I'm trying to keep my glasses on and gazed @ by a group of onlookers and horrified tiny-dog owners. I'll bet Pompe just thought you were playing...

Since you are the generous soul I've come to know, could you pick me up a copy of the new Steely Dan booklet Brian Sweet is doing? How much $ should I send (do you take checks?) I'm still learning FireInTheHole. I'll tape it for you when I can play it like I feel it.

PPpaulCC: Thank you for your thoughts - I hate to wink on line. I see your point about SD not being the counter-culture pop icon that is Bowie. Even considering that, is there any room for them in this limited market? I just wouldn't want DF&WB to miss out on a good thing. I love them too much. Has anyone ever told you you've got really good cybervision? PDGCV

moray eel: What you said about Everything You Did got me thinking: I wonder if my S.O. would be interested in playing the EverythingYouDid game? (I wanna be the rollerskater first)

rubybaby

I wouldn't screw Tyra Banks either. She has the world largest forehead. Regarding sex with Donald or Walter, I'd lean towards Walter. I bet he talks dirty when he's plowing the cornfield.

sfk: i think dmb is really good, but obviously, not everybody does. i'd recommend finding either a friend with one of the cds or a blockbuster music-esque store (where you can hear before you buy) and giving 'em a listen. i don't own any yet, but i had my friend's copy of 'crash' on loan for nearly a week.

amanda

Now that I've stripped myself of the shackles of cyberhell, lemme tell ya.....

I had "Show Biz Kids" cranked up yesterday while painting the bathroom. I programmed the CD player to keep repeating "Show Biz Kids", a cheap but effective imitation of Katz's 60-foot loop in the studio (if you beleive that one too), and god damn, the Donald delivers.

"... they don't give a fuck about anybody else, you know they go to..."

maj.

Ruby: You can be my rollerskater anytime! Oh yeah...skate a little lower now!

Regarding Michael McDoobie---I love his harmony on Rose Darling. During the chorus Donald Sings, "Rose Darlin..." and Mike chimes in perfectly "...Rose Darlin...'in'...'in'...'in'..my friend". His voice is the perfect addition to Donald's singing. They make a great combination.

Spanish kissin' see it glisten...

m.e.

RUBY-HONEY; I asked in the bookstore for that Sweet-book. It is´nt out yet. But whenever it comes, I´ll send it to you. No checks, no money, you have a birthday, don´t you? And when you learned that song, promise to tape it and send it to me! Anyway, have you heard about a Swedish group called The Morons? If you don´t have, you will. The 20th March, this year. Hold out.

Clas

SanFransiscoKnight; Now I know what you mean. Thanks. And about McDonald, I think he has done some pretty stuff on his own too; Minute by Minute, What a Fool Believes, Takin´ it to the street... and on.

I´m glad to hear that you like Court and Spark, and I agree with you, some of her other records are a little to soft for my taste. But listen to the record with the Mingus stuff, with Jaco Pastorius on bass and his arranging of the horns, THAT one is not mellow.

With a sleepin roll, Clas

Sorry, doubleposting. But while I´m on;

EDD COTE; I´m not much for dissect music, but I love what you wrote about that Japan - China-line. I have never thought of it that way. Good work.

clas

RUBYBABY and others; I just talked with OmniBus Press in London (funny language they have in England, does not sound like the real english you talk in USA). Brian Sweets book is out in march. 1998. So, Ruby, you have to wait another year. But what´s another year? In our age it´s like a month or two.

Last post for today, promise.

Clas

What, no posts today?

Strehhhnge...

YGK: Pissboy has posted enough for everyone else. Friggen abba lovin', can't grow a real beard, commie foreigner.

Edd--Wow! I'll never use a paper plate again!

Earthbound--didja get my e-mail? I got some weird error message, but I think it went through the 3rd try. Have fun!

BC

Hey, Q, you out there? Call me.

Rooobeee: yep, gimme all you got! Right now. And where's your packet? On its way. If not fallen through the holes in the mystical web between here and there. Yes, I'm still alive. Sometimes. More later. Kisses!

Re lyrycs: I also love that line "try to design a t-shirt from your mind" ... Whatelse: "who are these children who scheme and run wild" ... that's one of my favourite songs as well.

Re DMB

So what's not to like?

Dave's vocal phrasings are interesting and different. He utilizes lots of fairly intricate chord progressions and includes some intriguing twists and turns in his compositions with regard to melody. The lyrics are quirky and arcane, yet intelligent (sound familiar?). Dave's percussive style of guitar playing is quite appealing. the musicianship is sharp and exacting (how about Boyd Tinsley's electric violin driven nod to Hendrix on "Jimi Thing"), and Carter Beauford's jazz influenced drumming is quite outstanding... These guys bring a little something extra to the pop music table IMHO.

Favorite DMB track: "You Pay For What You Get"... nicely done indeed.

Me thinks if you're one of them there Dead/Dan fans (I include myself in this category)), then DMB can be quite an appealing combination of these two disperate yet similarly influenced musical agenda's.

Joe

..................annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, the number one reason the Dave Mathews Band isn't just totally cooooooool,

"It's just not Steely Dan, now, isit?"

DMB is featured in this month's "Mix" magazine. If you dig hardware like I do, you may find it interesting.

Edd

DMB is hot. Go see 'em live or shut the FUCK UP. Right Joe?

I was wondering. How many of the regulars on this board are using Netscape? How many IE? If you could end your next post with an answer to this question I'd really appreciate it.....

NETSCAPE

Peace, StAl

DMB sucks moose cock. So does Pissboy.

Netscape.

thanks for the enlightened comment, r.o.c.k. i'm sure everyone appreciated it almost as much as i did.

well, i'm glad that at least my question is getting some answers....

amanda

netscape!!!!

on a car trip from San Diego to San Francisco we listened to Can't Buy a Thrill for 10.5 hours...

netscape

Netscape by Day, IE night by night....

Netscape by Day, IE night by night....

Oops, dammit!

Netscape...

netscape

StAl, you have once again crystalized my thoughts exactly!

Netscape.

saw DMB live and still can't figure out what all the fuss is about. they can't play and can't sing.

pearl - "you are a diamond in a sea of coal" with your last comment.

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNETSCAPE.

YGK

I had a coooooooooooool dan moment last night - took my daughter to the er 'cause she had something stuck in her eye(not cool) but on the way home we stopped at the new coffee&ice cream place(where the stuff beats the heck out of Ben&Jerry's), having a good mom/daughter time - they started playing selections from Aja! When the instrumental part of Peg began, they cranked it up!! So I went wild and bought the expensive coffee.

MinorWorld: On your next visit to Fresburg I reccommend you make a pit-stop @ Udderly Terifik. But beware: you may not want to leave...

later

ruby

netscape

"Ruby Baby when will you be miiiiiiiiiine?"

good to see your greatfortune - AJA, if you don't already know it, is my fav.

how've you been?

iz evryt'ing cool?

YGK

NETSCAPE

Clas: I have to echo you impressions on the imagery in The Nightfly. In the title track while the imagery is crystal clear and stirs the imagination, it's interesting how the radio host drifts off into his own thoughts in this smoky late-night world of jazz, cigarettes, alcohol, insomniacs, incoherent callers, and loneliness. We're unsure whether his inner-most thoughts are included in the on-air dialogue for example as the "little blue jar" of "Patton's kiss and tell" stirs rememberances of a lost love... at that late hour radio hosts generally have more freedom to do that, and the listeners probably expected it.

DMB Rocks......nough said

RUBYBABY....Like to try the place but it might be one expensive cup o coffee.

DCB

Mosaic (Just Kidding)

NETSCAPE

Thursday March 6 8:20 AM EST

Warner Bros. Records Lays Off 65 Staffers

HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Warner Bros. Records, which boasts the top-selling album in the country this week, has laid off about 65 employees in a long-awaited cost-cutting move.

Nearly 50 of the affected employees worked at the venerable label's Burbank headquarters where the head count was about 300. About 100 employees are scattered across the country. Sources said staffers in marketing, publicity and promotion were the hardest hit.

The cuts were announced at a staff meeting late Tuesday and will take effect Thursday. On Wednesday, latest SoundScan data revealed that the label's soundtrack to the upcoming Howard Stern movie "Private Parts" debuted at the top of the album charts. However the label has had a relatively low profile on the pop charts for much of the past year.

"Our industry is in the midst of a difficult and challenging period of adjustment," Warner Bros. label chairman Russ Thyret said in a memo circulated Wednesday to the remaining employees.

"Over the course of our history, Warner Bros. Records has been a successful, artist-oriented and competitive organization. I have concluded that we must streamline our operations including the very difficult decision to downsize our work force."

Ruby: thank you, next time I leave my frying pan and head for the fire I'll lay down my Jackson and see...

O Sainted One: The Netscape Gold, The Fine Columbian, make, um, (glances at watch) this afternoon a wonderful thing...

mWorld

...just what is the "difficult and challenging period of adjustment" Thyret refers to?

Edd

Edd:...wearing briefs rather than boxers?

mW

netscape. in japanese. does that count?

peace,

rabbit

Edd, I think Thyret was referring to the generally bad year the music industry had last year. Total sales were off something like 10%.

er, Netscape

Just wonderin'.... where does the fine cool sound of Steely Dan fit in with the embarrassing ignorance of xenophobia, as occasionally endured on this excellent site. Sometimes it's just not enough to ignore it. That said, dumb answers first please.

Richard&kangaroos

PS Edd C: Thanks! from now on Bodhisattva will be 'the washing-up song'. Just keep 'em coming.

Ed sed: "..just what is the "difficult and challenging period of adjustment" Thyret refers to?"

Another year without a new Steely Dan studio album, of course.

P.S. King Dick: I'm not ignorant of xenophopia. I know it quite well and practice it as much as I can. You friggin' foreigner. Thinking you can buy our government with campaign contributions to the Clinton Crime Family. What happened? Did Big Al Gore shake you down, too? He threaten to break your kneecaps or something?

Edd Cote: Your breakdown of "Bodhi" was the best one yet. Do you take requests? Perhaps something a bit more challenging...like Aja or Your Gold Teeth II.

"NUTS"-cape

m.e.

Ruby

Had a similar mother/daughter experience tonight. I was playing King of the World on the keyboard this evening with my ten year old daughter in the background doing her homework. She starts humming and singing the words, looks at me and says "Mom, this is terrible! I know all the words!" Definitely not terrible to me! I don't know how the either kid can escape since we play every single album on our annual pilgrimages from Colorado to San Diego. Steely Dan will live on in our offspring.

Ruby

Had a similar mother/daughter experience tonight. I was playing King of the World on the keyboard this evening with my ten year old daughter in the background doing her homework. She starts humming and singing the words, looks at me and says "Mom, this is terrible! I know all the words!" Definitely not terrible to me! I don't know how the either kid can escape since we play every single album on our annual pilgrimages from Colorado to San Diego. Steely Dan will live on in our offspring.

Ruby

Had a similar mother/daughter experience tonight. I was playing King of the World on the keyboard this evening with my ten year old daughter in the background doing her homework. She starts humming and singing the words, looks at me and says "Mom, this is terrible! I know all the words!" Definitely not terrible to me! I don't know how the either kid can escape since we play every single album on our annual pilgrimages from Colorado to San Diego. Steely Dan will live on in our offspring.

Ruby

Had a similar mother/daughter experience tonight. I was playing King of the World on the keyboard this evening with my ten year old daughter in the background doing her homework. She starts humming and singing the words, looks at me and says "Mom, this is terrible! I know all the words!" Definitely not terrible to me! I don't know how the either kid can escape since we play every single album on our annual pilgrimages from Colorado to San Diego. Steely Dan will live on in our offspring.

Hey, does anyone know where I could get Steely Dan posters? Would anyone like to try a hand at an exegesis of "Dr. Wu"?

Marc

Sorry Guys - New and Internet Illiterate

Pearl: I have to take exception to the statement you made about DMB. You see, I understand you may not like the band, but to suggest that band cannot play is WRONG in the true sense of the word.

R.O.C.K. in the USA: I am a big fan of John Mellencamp. However, I can't help but notice that one of his most contrived songs EVER just happens to be your handle. Sort of like your posts......Moose cocks for crissakes!

Kent: You need to come to the Great Pacific Northwest. Colombian sucks.....

Thanks everyone for your response to my question. It helps...

Peace, StAl

I have often entertained the thought of designing and printing a t-shirt something along the order of 'Property of Barrytown High' to give as a gift to my Dan literate friends. But I always thought I should include a mascot name that would be appropriate to the imagery of the song. My first thought was 'Cutters' like the locals in that movie about bike racing at the University of Indiana. But now that I have discovered all of you out there I was hoping to get some other ideas. I remember the first time I knew Michael McDonald was in Steely Dan was at the June of '74 concert at the Paramount in Seattle. I think Kiki Dee opened for them that night. Pretty weird, huh? Anyway...Michael sang a couple songs, I think Dirty Work was one, and I remember being disappointed that some second string nobody was ruining my songs. Ignorance can be pretty embarrassing. After I heard Michael on subsequent albums I realized I had been pretty lucky to have heard Mr. Mac 'live' with our guys. I also came to like almost anything Michael ever did.

I enjoyed the story of Steely Dan living on through the daughter. I know that if I had kids they would have also succumbed to the power of the Dan even if I had to throw them kicking and screaming into the light.

I have often entertained the thought of designing and printing a t-shirt something along the order of 'Property of Barrytown High' to give as a gift to my Dan literate friends. But I always thought I should include a mascot name that would be appropriate to the imagery of the song. My first thought was 'Cutters' like the locals in that movie about bike racing at the University of Indiana. But now that I have discovered all of you out there I was hoping to get some other ideas. I remember the first time I knew Michael McDonald was in Steely Dan was at the June of '74 concert at the Paramount in Seattle. I think Kiki Dee opened for them that night. Pretty weird, huh? Anyway...Michael sang a couple songs, I think Dirty Work was one, and I remember being disappointed that some second string nobody was ruining my songs. Ignorance can be pretty embarrassing. After I heard Michael on subsequent albums I realized I had been pretty lucky to have heard Mr. Mac 'live' with our guys. I also came to like almost anything Michael ever did.

I enjoyed the story of Steely Dan living on through the daughter. I know that if I had kids they would have also succumbed to the power of the Dan even if I had to throw them kicking and screaming into the light.

StAl: I use Escape.

Dr. Mu: I have always wondered what a "little blue jar" is. Do you know? But I think I know what that Patton is, was´nt that some sort of greasy stuff you had in your hair back in the 50´s? (I know who mr. Patton is, the great general, but it´s not him, is it?)

When we are talking Parents-Childs I must tell you about my son. He´s 21 now, and he has listened to Steely all his life. Or let´s say he HAD to listen to them. Because daddy did. But he never liked to pick up the guitar or playing piano. Maybe because daddy did and he thought my playing sucked? Well, at the time he became 16 - 17 he suddenly bought an electric guitar. And one night I stood outside his closed door to his room and heard him play along with "Kid Charlemange", and he played Carltons stuff note by note and bend by bend. And I was proud and very impressed. And confused, when the hell did he learn to play?

clas

Ruby - I love your new Mom and Baby story! I finally got to see my new niece for the first time last month. She loves to scream and laugh, especially when she's with her Grandpa! In fact I have taken to calling her my little Laughing Angel. Her little smile can really make your day!!

Netscape

Later, Beautiful Survivor

St. Al: Everything looks the same whether it be netscape or IE

Fez

Al - you might want to consider extending the width of your background image (rightback.jpg) to 1601 or so. As it stands, if you run your browser "full screen" at 1024 X 768 the image repeats on the right side of the screen.

The wider image will take up more space, but if you convert it to a .GIF file, you'll probably end up using less.

Netscape, MIE, home-rolled, depending on where I'm sitting.

Edd

Steve dude, great idea! Sign me up!

A mascot? How about "the Pretzel Guy" on the cover of PL?

and if you're going to make apparrel, why not underwear? Sure, Sure, y'know, like boxers that say "I don't need no Steely Dan" or a silk screen of the cover of "exstacy"? Shite, man, you can't make this shti up!

and now, some lyrics "He's the man, understand in that Steely Dan Movie;

where most things are illicit, but everything's groovy.

Do what you can, go see that Steely Dan movie,

Do zop do wah, makin' fair sell, buhzabuhdoobie.

YGK

Clas: Some cosmetic creams (ex. Noxema) etc. used to come in little blue jars with flat bottoms - glass initially, then plastic by the 70s.

I can feel it, a rhythm and blues and jazz revival upswelling this year. Rock/schlock: rock is on country stations now. Alternative to alternative; U2 playing dance music? Rap's fading; metal is dead (there is a God!) Something like a combination of Urban music, soul, and bop?...maybe like this song by Erykah (sp?) Badu I heard surfing through the radio yesterday?...but then, I could be dreaming

minahW: I could tell that was you. "...it was you, YOU..." in the stairwell of the office building talking to BOB. I was a few landings above you, with my own fine Co-lum-bi-an. Make tonight a wonderful night. Just don't stand stoned. OK?

Say it again.....

I'll be hoisting a drink to you at exactly 6pm eastern while I'm at Fat Jacks on Route 73 in Berlin NJ.

Suggestion to D+W: release a video of Art Crimes tour and call it, "re: the video". Or maybe that would make a good name for the new recording. Just a thought.

maj.

Thanks for all the input about the kids & the Dan (BabylonSister, Beautiful Survivor, CLAS, & Steve) Exposing the kids to SteelyDan has been fun! Even when they said they hated it, I knew otherwise. Even today I caught my oldest son laying on the sofa, listening to the Nightfly - all of it. I think he's getting tired of the angry/depressing crap he hears with his friends. BTW Beautiful Survivor, my daughter is 14! We still need mom/daughter fun times,probably more than ever - except that SHE does most of the talking now, I'm here to listen.

CLAS: Isn't it great to wonder when he learned something GOOD for a change? My oldest is 16. He's like a cross between Huck Finn and James Dean. helpme

DeeConBluz: I can't think of anything better right now than to see you in there! awsome idea...!

Hi,YGK! *things* are good. Isn't it true, though, that when you finally let something go, it sticks to you like glue? Is there a SteelyDan song covering that?

later,rubybaby

AMANDA: If you want another opinion about DMB(which you probably don't...certainly not one from lil ole me) I have a great many friends that worship the quicksand they walk on. (I'm 22 and from a town in east texas called Tyler that you've probably never heard of, and if you have I'm sure you wish you had'nt.) I don't really think I have much of an opinion about them one way or another. But most of the people I know that have sung their praises and forced me to listen to them over and over are people whose tastes in music I don't respect too much. I'm probably about to be on thin ice with some out there who will read this, but most of these people are TOTAL deadheads(not that there's anything wrong with that, so don't anybody yell at me for that comment. I just personally can't stand the Greatful Dead.) I do think that there are some very...touching(for lack of a better word, maybe) musical phrases in their songs. The kind of sounds that make you stop in the middle of a crowded room and just feel your heartbeat. And maybe I just don't want to like them because I don't want to have anything in common with some of the hick wannabe hippies I share a community with. And I must agree with YGK...they're just not Steely Dan, now are they? For those of you that have retold stories about Steely Dan experiences with your kids, I have one of my own...from the flip side...and it might just make you smile. I'm one those children who was subjected to Steely Dan night and day from the time I was conceived.(As a matter of fact, I was most likely conceived DURING a Steely Dan track.) I never thought much about them as a child..All I knew was that when I heard Steely Dan, I felt at home and I felt the wonderfully omniscient presence of Daddy.(Daddy was and is still a muscian, but his other job -to his neverending dismay-was engineering.I guess we had to eat.) When I was 20, I got tickets to see Steely Dan in Dallas. By this time I was a full fledged fan. My father and I went to see the show, sat in the mud (it had rained heavily all that day, and we had general addmission seats on the grass) got drunk and fell in love with our favorite passion all over again...together. This happened about 2 weeks after my parents divorce was final. I'm an only child and the divorce was very hard for me, as I have no other family besides my parents. So it was a pretty sappy moment, but none the less will be etched in my mind forever. I'm sorry if I bored anybody with my little sob story. But it just goes to show how important and close to my heart SD's music is. something I think we all can appreciate and understand.

Good to have a place to come home to.

You guys are all pretty great, and even if you're not, you at the very least make me smile every time I visit.

Another Amanda

Jon- am here-watching quietly as the page limps ever more slowly longing for a cue(like an album,or better yet a tour!). Ed is The Major Dude relative to effort and results in analyzing the tunes structurally. Pete is still "the Swami" and I just an interloping FAN/collector. Glad to here claus maybe has some semblance of a life after all(ref "touching" son story).Hello to JZ,PG,&TF of CO. PS There is a new 180gram vinyl pressing of AJA available that has great overall sound(recvd promo copy 2/97) includung a few elements superior to the MoFi pressing(but definately not everywhere ie Aja cut itself). Also DCC says they are "working on" the DAN collection from MCA for 1/2 spd remastered reissues- theyve done awfully good work on many other great titles(ie the CCR collection,Court & Spark,etc.). Q

AMANDA: Thank you. Music is truly a wonderful thing.

Now for the real reason why I was inquiring about the browsers everyone uses. I am curious what people think of the background we are using? On both my computers everything looks great at 640x480 & 800x600 when viewed through Netscape. With IE it is a totally different story. The text flows over the left side. Something I don't like. Is it just my machine? Is this annoying anyone else? As to Edd's comment, well, the length is a conscious decision. You see, If I were to extend the overall image to 1024x760 or more, everyone (most of us) would have to constantly scroll around the page just to read the text (I've tried it). I don't think placing the text in a predetermined table is the answer either.

Anyway, enough of the technical crap.

Peace, StAl

Steve: Barrytown Steelers, Barrytown Wolverines , Barrytown Nightflys ? The pretzel guy would be a good mascot; I'd personally like to see him bareback on an armadillo.

amanda: i know what you mean, and i understand where you're coming from. there are definitely a lot of dmb fans that like 'em for whatever invalid reason, but those moments in their music (so eloquently described) are what i love. certain songs make me feel that way all the way through... and the band is tight. i like that they use unconventional (in terms of recent music) instruments, and the rich feeling of their records. as for the dead, i never really liked 'em either.

okay, i guess that's all for now....

amanda

Amanda: I just had to drop you a little note and thank you for agreeing with me about the Dead. Usually, if I say anything about the Dead that isn't totally positive, people throw things at me. I agree that DMB is a very tight band, and any band that's tight is good to listen to. I think that's why people are so attracted to marching bands. Just out of curiosity, is there anyone else here who's a fan of Rickie Lee Jones. While my father was brainwashing me with Dan, my mother simultaneously tried to countersact his action by doind the same thing with her music. and I HATED it as a child, but I love it now. Amanda, what do you like to read? or anyone, for that matter...I'm curious.

Maybe he's a fairy...

Amanda, (This Amanda thing might get a little confusing)

Another Amanda: After a scary time on the g/book, your post has finally convinced it's safe to come back. Thanks... I love reading Paul Auster. His novel Moon Palace has a character called Kitty Wu, which obviously stirs up things SD. StAl: NETSCAPE

Just a quick thought on the Dead. Not really a fan, but the tribute album Deadicated is well worth a spin. Some great interpretations like Hornsby's "Jack Straw" Los Lobos' "Bertha" Elvis Costello's "Ship Of Fools" and Suzanne Vega doing "Cassidy". On the whole the Dead don't really float my boat the way it seems to get some people going.

Anybody ever heard of a German (I think) writer named Patrick or Peter suskind. For some reason his name escapes me just now. Anyway he wrote a book called Perfume. Not many people that I asked have ever heard of this book, but then, we are an obscure lot, now aren't we? It's fabulously black, humorous and amazingly riveting piece and I suggest it to everyone who likes to read weird stuff. It's not hard to find. Anybody out there a fan of Mr. Salinger. I love him almost as much as I love The Almighty...and I don't think I need to specify whoTHAT is...

Bored on a beautiful saturday afternoon in Texas...

The weekend at the college didn't turn out like I planned...

Amanda Numero Dos

Hey guys... Cool site... I never realized that there were so many Dan fans online... cool! ;)

I'm sitting in the middle of the Washington State ferry terminal at one of those Internet Kiosk's. Talk about useless technology. Actually this is a test to see if this page is working.

Technology is bitchen

I really enjoy coming here and reading all of your comments although I must admit they do make me feel somewhat inferior. I have never taken the music I love and broken it down. (Not to say that this is wrong in any way, just not for me). For me music is a total experience - it washes over me. It evokes emotions, memories, sentiments. It's almost as though if I were to dissect it to all it's various components it would break the spell.....that somewhere in the journey of searching for the reasons I like a piece of music I might de-personalize, de-mystify it in some way. I love Steely Dan music. (Yes, I think it's neat!) I don't know why - it just makes me FEEL.

I realize that this may be too simplistic for many of you, but that's my take.

another amanda: i love j.d. salinger. : ) also, i really like the rlj album flying cowboys (produced, of course, by our very own wb) though i've not heard any others. my favorite track on that one is 'satellites' for whatever reason... it just makes me want to dance in the dark.

just amanda

being a real dan fan I'm looking forward to a new al album and concert in the milwaukee area in 1997 all of our positive energy are with you Don and Walt.

being a real dan fan I'm looking forward to a new al album and concert in the milwaukee area in 1997 all of our positive energy are with you Don and Walt.

Amanda: My 4 year old daughter Amanda is a big Dan Fan also. Her big number is "shake it" (Babylon Sis). Recently, I had a chance to listen to Rickie Lee Jones' "Pirates" for the first time in a while. I think it was her 2nd release, and it's no sophomore slump. Great songs and melodies: it's got some Dan leanings for sure. Song structures and the sound also remind me a little of Bruce Springsteen's The Wild, Innocent, and the E Street Shuffle when David Sancious was at the keys. "Pirates" features an all-star Dan-ish cast with Mr Fagen on synth - title track and Steve Gadd, Chuck Rainey, dean parks, Steve Lukather, Randy Brecker, David Sanborn, and Tom Scott

Hi all! For you Chick Corea fans, he is playing the TLA in Philly, Sat. 3/29, 2 shows, 7:00 and 9:30. I will be attending the 9:30 set.

Being childless, I don't have any Steely mother/daughter stories, but I do have a Steely dog story. I have been babysitting my mother's poodle 'Katy' (I named her) this week, and she really freaked when I put her in my car to bring her to my house (I live approx. 45 min. from my folks). She was jumping all over the place, in my face; I almost wiped out some trees, mailboxes, et al.. I didn't know how to calm her down, so I popped in Countdown to Ectasty and sang every song to her. It was amazing, she just sat right down and was quiet. I think she especially dug Razor Boy, YGT, and Pearl of the Quarter! And I had a blast singing them, although people in passing cars were looking at me kind of strange.:)

Amanda II--Welcome!

St Al--if you're still counting, Netscape.

BC

Amandas: How are we to tell you apart? Amanda I and Amanda II? Read any Harlan Ellison? He's a bit twisted and usually angry about something.

Anybody know why the vibes(?) are missing from the intro to Rikki on Citizen? Any rumours/info on whether any progress is being made on the new album?

Anybody listen to Keb Mo' "Just Like You"?

St. Al. What happened to the coil binder graphics? Do I just have deflicted eyes? Netscape.

well, you can tell me (the first amanda) because i always post with my name and email address up top. everything else would be the other amanda. (also notice my lack of capital letters)

yes, i think i've heard that keb mo' song... wasn't it on the soundtrack to one fine day?

amanda

"I'm gonna take her down to Mexico!"

N E T S C A P E

da: loved your story. Phoenix tomorrow. Rikki Lee has been in my LP collection since 1978. Some very emotional music there. "GAHV" is a standout, IMHO.

lovebob: how was that SFO show?

StAl: Describe an Internet kiosk to you... Sounds like a pretty cool thing for passing the time on a ferry. It would be really cool if we had ferries here like they do in Europe. You know, grab a pint o' bitter and head for the NetscapeNavigator(Not that American ferries are "dry"). Some day.

"douuuuble helix in the sky tonight"

Re:Steely Dan addiction:

My name is Roy.....and I'm a dan addict. Since the street supply of dan has dried up in recent decades, I've tried a number of treatments. My research into the subject may be of help to some of you. The mainstream medical establishment will only prescribe the standard am/fm radio treatment. I found the dan percentage to be far too low to affect the tolerance I'd built up. Besides, am/fm is known to contain harmful toxins such as metal and bubble gum. I tried complete abstinence but developed psychological problems and ended up at the Sanford-Townsend Clinic being treated for danorexia. Encouraging long term results have been observed with a family of methadone-like substances known as jazz. Halfway programs have had success administering coltraine, brubeck, davis and parker (and even some old folk remedies like armstrong and ellington). The problem with these is that they aren't comercially available and a prolonged jazz regimen can lesd to funk deficiency (pre-berry anemia) which could require the patient to have direct hendrix injections. Synthetic dans have been developed that offer some relief. Some of the safer, more tested, laboratory dans are santana, sting, and mcdoobie ( a derivative which is actually part dan). Avoid foreign made synthetics such as littleriver, u2, and menatwork. You just don't know what's in them and these imports can be highly unstable. Remember that bad abba that took so many lives during the 70s? Some of the designer dans are laced with estrogen, e.g.: fleetwoodmac, rickylee, and eurithmic. These create a pleasant euphoria but can lead to personality disorders such as periodic bitterness and even a permanent condition known as Laura-Nyrosis. It appears that the current state of the art treatment for dan addiction is the recycling of existing batches of pure dan from the 70s thru early 90s. We'll have to make do with this until medical science or the B & F Foundation come up with a new cure.

PS NETSCAPE 3.0

I can't believe I just spent the last few minutes reading about the dead and DMB on the steely dan guestbook....Is this still the "Steely Dan" guestbook? I hope so but it sure doesn't look that way....

"The monday morning guestbook didn't turn out like I planned

The things that pass for music I can't understand"

Ahoy there, Dan folk!

Been off the site for a short while due to negative feeling, caused by my employers...

I did not wish to pass my neggy-vibes onto you guys.

Hey, the vibe intro to RDLTN is missing from the 'Reelin in the years (or Very Best Of)' album brought out in 1986. Wierd huh?

Rikki Lee Jones is quite cool. I think that Sheryl Crow has certainly picked up on her style also. For me, the best is Steve Gadd's percussive rule over 'Chuck E's in Love'. Feels lose and yet is tight at the same time. Kicks man!

Does Rikki Lee Jones still sing like a slut? I have not heard much else from her recently, although I know she's been doin' stuff. She always made me feel quite horny, ahem!

I must get 11 Tracks of Whack! I cannot find it over here at all, Tower, HMV and Virgin just don't have..

Clas: Did you not think that Manchester United played fucking brilliantly to destroy Porto 4-0????...

Laters pretzel soccer heads!

Once again, Bard University has been overlooked in the selection of the 64 team field for the NCAA hoops championship. This has escalated from mere travesty to full scale outrage. A letter writing campaign is in order.

Let your March Madness run with mine.

As a Dan fan, I just wanna thanks man, been a great trip.

Just wondering....

Last night I had VH1 on as background while reading the Daily Grind and after awhile a retrospective on The Carpenters came on. Anyway, the narrator mentions that some of their songs were written by the famous duo of Paul (wear your kneepads) Williams and Roger Nichols (sp?). It doesn't register right away, but I'm thinking, "Why does that last name sound familiar?"

And I wonder, and wonder, and wonder.

NO. IT CAN'T BE. THE TATTOO OF THE MUSIC BIZ WRITING SONGS WITH "THE IMMORTAL" ONE? CAN'T BE.

"...just like me, they long to be, close to you. Wah-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh. Close to you..."

maj.

I think I was about 6 and my mom was watching the Mike Douglas Show and Paul Williams was one of the guests. He sang some song he wrote about apples. He was hot then, boy!

Major, I've been painting my house a room @ a time. I've been thinking I would try the Show Biz Kids thing you were talking about. Tell me, did it affect the overall look? So far, the Nightfly paints best for me.

R.B.

maj,

Nahhhhhhh, it CAN'T BE... You must be sufferin' from a bad case of Laura-Nyrosis! Say, didn't Karen Carpenter struggle with that infamous eating disorder, danorexia???

Danorexia - Derivation: The combinatorial synthesis of dislexia and anorexia. Definition: The act of heaving ones stomach contents BEFORE the consumption of a large meal.

Come to think of it, if Karen Carpenter had in fact been a danorexic, she'd still be alive today... But you would probably NOT be able to get "Close To Her"...

Re: vibes(?) on Rikki, actually marimba, that is, wooden bars (usually rosewood) rather that metal, and negative (read: No) motor-action/flywheels/hats/hooters/sustain pedal on the marimba...(I seem to recall an interview with D&W where they disclose the skinny on that *particular* instrument...it may have even been an African cousin to the marimba...)

B.Suegirl: Is that the Bud Powell Tribute Show (w/Mcbride, Haynes, Redman, et al) you speak of? Will see Mar.20 in Santa Barbara, Ca...

Dudis Majoris: Thanks, Fat Jack's vibe (not marimba) received...

Pat: Next tour, I think.

mW

Hey maj: yes, the cowriter of "We've only just begun" (originally written to be the jingle for a bank commercial I think) is one Roger Nichols. But it's not THE Roger Nichols.

Funny new article on the SD Page: or am I the only one who checks it any more?

Re: Bogus Citizen Box set "Rikki" intro... MCA will replace your CD if you send back the original.

Dr. Wu himself, Phil Woods, will be appearing at The Blue Note in NYC starting tommorow night, March 11, 1997 through Sunday night March 16, 1997... Are you with me Doctor???

Joe

having taken the cyber-posture of a sullen artiste, clad in only his skivvies and caked with mud and shrubbery, hiding out just outside the fringe of consciousness that IS the Guestbook...it is pleasing to see the fresh voices, playing nice...

one wonders where that Kinky SoNSo slunk off to...

Procured "Metal Leg" a while ago, looks to be a CD of excerpts of 2 concerts (March 9 & 10, 1974)...as anyone else heard of this? Sez it's from Australia. Good stuff.

rudy

Haven't been able to read the guestbook for a *very* long time... Did the "DanVention" ever take place? Any "special guests" to report? Is Josie still around?

Amanda Numero Dos: even though it doesn't really belong here, congratulations on finding Suesskind's "The Perfume", I am glad you liked it. It was a *huge* success in Germany approx 10 years ago. The language in that book was quite unique and I wonder how well it translates... One of my favourite books of all time! I know, I am wasting precious Steely Dan bandwidth. But nobody loves them more than I do, anyway:-)

So until my ship comes in...

Dr Mu; Thanks for that Blue Jar-thing.

KNIGHT; You know me and sports... it´s like oil and water. But whatever you say, I´m glad they won.

I read an inteview with Jojje Wadenius in a swedish newspaper. A question came up about Steely; -Did you learn to know Fagen/Becker well during the tour with them? -Not much, they arrived to the gig after the soundcheck, with sunglasses, and gave a few directives to the band. And before the last song was over they went away in separate limos to separate hotels...

It sounds worse than Diana Ross. I guess I should not confuse the Masterpiece with the Master.

Ruby; go on painting now.

Maxine; I know you´re there somewhere, HI!

Clas

RubyBaby! I just load in Citizen with one of the solo's usually 11tow. I can accomplish anything then.

Just a thought, If Karen Carpenter had eaten Mama Cass' ham sandwich they would both be alive today.

Don't know if that would have any impact on the world at all but just something to ponder.

DCB

Q; I´m glad that you are glad.

Pissboy,

There you go again, letting your anti-capitalist, anti-American b.S. pollute this guestbook. You tell us "I guess I should not confuse the Masterpiece with the Master." I tell everyone else, you should not confused the Envious with the Envied. Just because Donald & Walter wouldn't talk to you back when you were stalking them in the 70's, doesn't mean you can start making passing judgement on the way they deal with their hired help. What do you expect them to do. Do you fraternize with your employees? Do you invite them to stay over at your house? Hang out? Shoot the breeze? All Fagen & Becker owe these guys is a paycheck, nothing more. But of course you wouldn't understand that pissboy because you sweedes aren't real men because you can't grow a real beard. Message to you pissboy, fuck off and die, commie.

ÝÝÝÝÝÝÝÝÝ

Good point, Ruby Baby. Show Biz on continuous repeat helped to keep up the tempo AND since it's only one song played over and over, I lost track of real-time. Nothing worse than getting to the end of a CD to remind me of how pathetically long I've been scraping and painting. Repeat eliminates that totally.

Try Katy Lied while painting smaller rooms. The warm piano sound takes on a new life in the close quarters of a smaller room, like the bathroom. Just think of those chord changes in the intro of Dr. Wu. Something special.

Sue, LH, and other Phillys: tonight, tuesday, 8 till 9 pm on 88.9 WBZC. You got the right dynamic....

maj.

OK!!!!

"But of course you wouldn't understand that pissboy because you sweedes aren't real men because you can't grow a real beard. Message to you pissboy, fuck off and die, commie. "

STOP for goodness sakes!!!!!

That piece of negative, un-called for bullshit has to stop. Why in the world does CLAS deserve a response like that? WHAT THE FUCK DID HE DO TO YOU?

In the past I've rarely ever responded directly to a post such as this. However, I cannot help myself any longer. I take full responsibility for the "negative vibe" that has permeated this GB over the last year or so. I often encouraged it. But lets understand something here. There is a big difference between being sarcastic, and attacking an individual. If you think that is what this band represents, well, again your wrong. To me Walter and Donalds music usually attacks concepts, not individuals (usually...). Attacking an individual while hiding behind the anonymity this forum provides is chickenshit.

So come to the DanFan Guestbook wearing your flame retardant clothing -- leave the bullet proof vest at home. We're all friends here.

RUDY: ROCK = KINKY? Just a thought.....

ROCK: Crawl back under

Peace, AND I MEAN PEACE GODDAMNIT
StAl

Why does everyone keep defending Clas? Can't he fight his own battles?

Is Clas really worthy of such a defense? On Feb. 23(4:17) he actually threatened to kill another Guestbook member! That is the most offensive thing I have ever seen on the internet...so far! If people want to start choosing sides, they should pick their allies carefully!

Dear REALITY CHECKER; I can fight my own battles. But I have decided not respond to mr. R.O.C.K. He is not worth it. OK, I lost my temper when this mr. Philestrio (or whatever) accused me to have put in some perverted pictures in the GuestBook. I don´t know if you saw the pictures, it was real sick shit and I went crazy when he connected me with those pictures.

Anyway, wellcome to the GuestBook, mr Reality Checker.

Dr. Mu; Is it Jamiroquai you mean? The English band? They are good.

San Fransisco Knight; Email me, maybe we could work something out with that 11 Tracks O.W. My adress is above.

Does anyone know anything about a mythical video from the Gaucho period.Yesterday I was asked about this for the second time in less than 6 MoI'm starting to wonder if it's some kind of hoax or what? Supposedly, Katz had shot some footage in the studio with the idea of turning it into a promo video of some kind, OR actually made a promo video that was killed before it ever came to fruition. Can anybody confirm any of this or is it just a bunch of BS? Inquiring minds and all that.

lovebob

ps. didja ever notice that when you play the end of Show Biz Kids backwards the lady screaming "DOOOOOONAAAAALD" sounds alot like "turn me on Walt-Dog" ?????

boblovesbob: Backward masking in a Dan song?!? The exalted ones actually have something in common with Black Sabbath!? Scary thought. (How do you get a cd to play backwards?)

St. Al: I can't defend R.O.C.K., but isn't he behaving in much the same manner as Clas? Seems to me some of the more vitriolic and insulting posts over the last few months have been authored by our swedish friend....he who lives by the sword...Have a hard time believing that R.O.C.K. might be Kinky. Kinky is, I think, more articulate.

Kinky: Where are you? Defend yourself.

DCB: Old joke. I suspect you need to be old to get it.

johnboy: yea I know it's old but I thought some of the younger posters could look it up could look it up, sort of an educational thing. Kinda of like bringing a bad line to a whole knew generation.

DCB

Please do not confuse my intention. It was not to specifically defend CLAS or flame the hell out of ROCK. They were merely the examples of the moment. However, MOST of what is spewed forth from ROCK's keyboard is negative. Not so with Clas. Also, reality checker, the difference -- AGAIN -- is the post to which you refer was a knee jerk reaction from CLAS (my take) when ROCK incorrectly accused him of something. Yesterdays post from ROCK was an uncalled for attack. There is a distinction.

Re-read the post. The intention is to try to regain a slightly more positive vibe on this here GB. That's all. As far as my crack about Kinky, it's just been so long, I kinda miss him. Maybe I can pry him loose....

St. Al: Talk about uncalled for attacks! What do you call pissboy's bashing of D&W in their treatment of his sweedish brother George?

My problem with Clas is his America bashing, nothing else. I've never met the guy. All I know is he passes judgement on everyone from a Swediocentric attitude that is undeserved, unearned and insulting. And until the day he can provide specific examples of what the swwweeeedddish peoples have contributed to the world community, I say he can't pass judgement on our society or the popular culture that results from it. That includes Donald & Walter and if they decide to treat their tour sidemen the way almost everyone in capitalist societies treat their employess, fine. It's their fucking lives. It's their fucking money. I'm sure they would rather spend that so called quality time with their family and friends, not a bunch of their employess. So if I'm guilty of sticking up for Donald & Walter as well as the United States of America, well, sue me.

Bob Tedde: How was The Steely Damned road trip to San Francisco? Does anyone have the "NEW" (correctly mastered/black sticker)Decade? Does the "Rikki" intro appear intact on that CD?

Maybe D + W decided to drop the marimba intro because it sounded to Horace Sliverish (or is that Silverfish).

m.e.

Who is the gaucho amigo? Hearing Dan in concert last summer was better than listening to any of the albums. I saw them in p

Who is the gaucho amigo? Hearing Dan in concert last summer was better than listening to any of the albums. I saw them in p

Who is the gaucho amigo? Hearing Dan in concert last summer was better than listening to any of the albums. I saw them in p

Who is the gaucho amigo? Hearing Dan in concert last summer was better than listening to any of the albums. I saw them in p

R.O.C.K.: At St. Al's suggestion, I reread Clas' post that apparently prompted your defensive tirade. Where's the America bashing? Seems to me that you are behaving in much the same manner as you complain that he is. Plenty of Swede bashing in your post. I'm neither Swedish nor American and from my perspective, you and Clas are nearly indistinguishable from one another. Take your own advice.

"You come up blazing like an open sore". Both of you.

um St. Al, uh, whatthehellisgoin'on?

I posted something yesterday (Wed. ~5 pm EST) and now it's gone. It wasn't even like the vitriolic, adolescent bullshit that we've come to expect from certain parties, so, I humbly ask,

"where the hell isit?"

I even complimented you on your wonderful page, wazzup?

YGK

YGK: Dunno? I thought the posting seemed light yesterday. Anyone else experience this? Oh yeah -- THANKS! I think....?

ROCK: Food for thought (and my last comment on this subject): You are a perfect example of the type of American CLAS loves to bash, no? Yeah, I'm proud too, but I don't wear it on my sleave. Are you from Texas? {snicker.....}

Peace,
StAl

Johnboy: So you hate the Americanos and the swweeeedess? Where the hell are you from? France?

Joke of the Day:

Q. How many Frenchmen does it take to defend their country?

A. No one knows. They've never tried before.

St. Al: I love ya', man!

ROCK: oooooooooooohhhhhhhhh - the things you say.

st. al--my post from yesterday is gone. what's up with that? is it because i'm from texas?

i even agreed with you--that a little vitirolic wit is totally welcome here. but i pointed out that answering someone's (i.e. clas's) being ignorant and insulting by being even more ignorant and insulting (as r.o.c.k. was) is not.

st. al, do i detect a little jealousy? i know you secretly wish you were from texas.

u.s.a. bashing, sweeeeeedess (what they hell is up with writing it like that, r.o.c.k.?) bashing, texas bashing...... what is this board coming to? everybody ease back!

peace from texas,

rabbit

rabbit, I'm soooooo sure you're envious of all of us here in the Big ole Apple - being near one of our boys and all that...

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!

DMB will achieve obsolescence when GOD STREET WINE gets back from Europe. Anyone agree, disagree, care? GSW has been known to pull off some mighty-fine, high-energy dan covers, as well as some oh-so- smokin' O-riginals...If ya haven't heard 'em ya oughta shoulda, then ya oughta shoulda go see 'em.

DMB will achieve obsolescence when GOD STREET WINE gets back from Europe. Anyone agree, disagree, care? GSW has been known to pull off some mighty-fine, high-energy dan covers, as well as some oh-so- smokin' O-riginals...If ya haven't heard 'em ya oughta shoulda, then ya oughta shoulda go see 'em.

why does that happen? why does that happen?

Hello everybody. It seems that while I was away everyone got a little testy. I personally don't think D or W would appreciate it...unless it's done in an incredibly subtle, cool, and enjoyable way for everybody, which it wasn't, but I love you all, so I don't care. I live in Dallas(YES...I'm from texas) but I grew up in Tyler(120 miles east of Dallas) and I come home on the weekends so that's why I have'nt said hi in awhile. I don't have a computer of my own, so I have to use my boyfriend's. Anyway I had a cool moment today. I thought for the longest time that I had lost my Nightfly cd, and when I was packing up my car to come home today(I'M ON SPRING BREAK!!!!!!!!YYYYYEEEEAAA!!!!!) I found it in my trunk!!! I was so happy I almost puked, and I listened to it all the way from Dallas to Tyler. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH MIAMI!!!!!! I can't remember who it was but someone mentioned the book Perfume in response to something I said about it last week. I'm glad it was big in Germany. I don't know if it lost anything in the translation because I don't speak German, but if it did then it must of been pretty damn good to start out with. Anybody seen the movie Sling Blade? I just saw it last night and it was phenominal. Go see it. Well, lucky you, I'll be here for the next week and a half with acces to a computer, so I can o.d. on the gb and all the lovely obscure voices on it. I can't wait.

I got plenty of Red Stripe and Sherman queen size milds...

Amanda Numero Dos

p.s.--Amanda Numero Uno..WHAT'S UP!!!! how you doing? missed ya

Geez...were the hell is everybody? I'm all hyper because I'm on vacation and NOBODY WILL TALK TO ME!!!!!! Do I sound desperate and lonley? I prefer languid and bittersweet...

Jesus Donald Fagen Christ we need a chat room...

Bored and on spring break in lil ole Tyler, Texas...

Amanda Numero Dos

R.O.C.K: Whoa. Didn't say I hated anybody. Didn't even imply it. Don't dislike Swedes or Americans (or any one else for that matter) just because of where they happen to reside. Seems to me that is a completely irrelevant criterea. I did say that you were behaving the same way that you accuse Clas of behaving. Read St. Al's post. Assholes do indeed come in all nationalities. Sorry but I'm not french. Your "joke" is nevertheless an insult to just about everybody. What would your joke have been if you thought I was black, jewish or female. I shudder at the thought. St. Al is right, technology is bitchen. Kinda hard to spew bigotted venom at someone when you have to guess why you should hate them, isn't it?

Enough of these ad hominem attacks already.

My apologies to everyone else for the rant. Geez, we need an album or a tour or a sighting.

I wouldn't screw deity. I worship the Gods of music. Give me Tyra Banks any time!

Personally I find it nearly impossible to believe that any SD fan could display the intensity of ire I've seen on this page of late. It's a tough one to love the USA and all it stands for and then deny another the right to have their say. Really it doesn't matter to me. In the words of Rodney King "Can't we all just get along...."

Let's everyone take a deep breath and a listen to Babylon Sister or hell, just about any Steely Dan song!

End of Subject!

I think finding a lost Nightfly is better than getting it in the 1st place. At least that's the way I feel about stuff I love. Glad it finally turned up, Amanda numero dos.

a major thanks to the MajorDude! I've started this project & I'm gonna finish it! Great advice is always welcome.

CLAS: Hey, buddy! I've been real busy, but I've noticed the trouble you got into...Thank God you're resiliant! There's an old American saying that goes "Don't let the turkeys get you down!" I think it's American.

Anyway, if it was reported that THE TWO were rude or something, why not talk about it? Who ever said they were the nicest guys on the planet? However, it's been my experience that sometimes what is perceived as curtness is really not. Misunderstandings are abundant about these things.

Start looking in your real mailbox in about a week.

rubybaby

Edd Cote: Hey man, I've been here and there and everywhere and I like it !!! Keep it coming. Beautiful. Ooops, beware, everybody, don't use above links if you don't like dissections ... but what kind of!

Dear all: let's cheer up and blow the sub-amiable perfume off this friendly place. I mean, away with that smell of hatred. Thanks, no replies needed, if you're looking for my opinion. While I'm also ready to take some flames if that's what you like :-} Lets have some more fun and things like THESE! Enjoy their happy home every now and then.

Ruby,Baby: Happy painting! Colour your world! Do you paint pictures as well? I'd want one.

I tossed in my AIA disc this week and was struck (once again) by the brilliance of the re-arranged Reelin'. This is by far my favorite song of the past 3 years, 'cause it's the only "new" Steely Dan song in three years!!! If anyone with access to D&W is surfing this wave, please let the boys know we are desperate for new SD material. I'll just bet that if the boys come out with some new stuff, the relavance of the posts to this site would increase by several orders of magnitude. Cheers to anyone with a post in the 1995 archives. Thanks St. Al for trailblazing what was once such a fascinating site. "Don't the moon look pretty;"

--The LA Connection--

Dan fans of the world, I need your help. I am a first grade teacher in Anchorage, Alaska. Our school, Ursa Minor Elementary, is having a contest called "Write around the World." Please send a postcard to our school in my name. The class that receives the most cards by the end of March wins a popcorn party and a free trip downtown to see the ice sculptures. By the way, my class loves Steely Dan, their favorite being (of course) "Everyone's Gone to the Movies" (juuuust kidding). They don't have a favorite although one boy kept asking to hear "Throw Back the Little Ones" last week. Send cards to: Ursa Minor Elementary c/o Mr. Stewart's class 6th Ave and Hoonah Ft. Richardson, Alaska 99505 Thanks: Mr. Stewart

amanda numbero dos--nice to see another texan on the board. ever get down to houston?

be careful, though; around here it's bad enough being a shallow, money-grubbing, capitalist from the u.s.a., but you and i are of course even worse in our status as shallow, money-grubbing, capitalist, ignorant hicks from texas.

ygk--ooh, the BIG APPLE! but you should see the apples in texas, man........... talk about BIG! i usually like to sit on them to put on my cowboy boots. yeah, right.......

no lp friday tonight. bummer man.

peace,

rabbit

Got nothin' better to do? Wanna see some really bad html? I've just updated my dubious web page... Yet another temple of The Dan... and such.

Joe

Let's try that again...

Edd: Thanks for the Bodhissatva page! I think I needed you to teach that boring chemistry class I had. I may not have understood everything you said, but I would have loved the class.

I was reminded of the song, You Are the Potter I Am the Clay.

George: Hi, and thanks for the encouragement! Don't be such a Stranger - sign in more often, OK?

And since you asked me, my favorite lyrics are: any minor world that falls apart comes together again & don't you think it was wrong to interrupt my song? I'll pack my things and run so far from here, goodbye,dear. And I love it when Donald Fagen sings, "Mad dog surrender" in DTMA. Whose idea do you think that was, WB or DF?

rubybaby

Mr. Stewart:

I jumped out of my easy chair...and rushed to the snailbox to deposit not 1, but 2 (yes,Two) Snorkle-Bob postcards (from the native-land of the Walt-Dog, no less)...and I mean really...

mW

mynawhirled-- McBride, Haynes, Kenny Garrett, and Wallace Roney.

My dearest rabbit, I know what you mean about those apples. Those wackos in NY don't know what they're missing. You should try wearing a pair of chaps, too...and nothing else!! I used to live in Houston. But unfortunately the experience was less than thrilling, but I think it was the company I was keeping. Then again, I'm just a lil ole small town girl and I don't take too kindly to the big city sometimes. It frightens me a might bit, I reckon. Boy I bet all this hick talk really annoys the hell out of everybody. Oh well.

In the corner of the sty i saw the piggies rootin' they were tryin' to fly the cows say hi

a little ditty from texas, ya'll...

Amanda Numero Dos

p.s.--I'm glad somebody fixed the cute litle spiraly thing on the left side of the page. It doesn't interfere with the pretty little words no more...and that's cool, daddy-o.

Many thanks, Minor World. I can smell that popcorn poppin.' Now, how about the rest of the Dan fans? Help a brother in need!

Mr. Stewart

So..... I'm watching "Patton" (the movie) on TV the other night and it's getting twards the end of the movie and there's this scene where in Patton's 3rd Army is racing twards berlin AAAAND a truck drives by with a handmade sign on the side of it reading "Hey Ike, wanna win the war? LET GEORGE DO IT" ! Coincidence? You decide.

BTW, for those who were interested, the SF Steely Damned show was wonderful! The crowd was very enthusiastic and the venue was outstanding. we're hoping to follow it up with another SF date in early May!

Also, there is some interest in bringing the Damned to Austin Texas. Anybody out that way interested in giving me some info?

And yet also... Las Vegas in June??? It could happen!

lovebob

ps. SUPERFAN: thanks for the aural excitement! You were great! I'll Email you soon.

Mr. Stewart, I'm planning on spending part of my precious sunday(that would be today) writing out a couple of postcards to your lovely class. Always here to help a fellow Danfan in need. Do you think the kids would prefer to receive one from Peg or Dr. Wu? Oh wait, I know...Mr. LaPage, right? jjjjuuuussst kidding!

Hope ya'll win.

Amanda Numero Dos

Write on, Amanda! And all the way from my home state of Texas.....Yes, I did my time in Temple. SO that's four in the bag now, plus the 40 or so others we've received so far. Come on, people. Send those post cards. Would you deny a group of seven year olds the opportunity to go look at the ice sculptures in downtown Anchorage? You're not that cruel... well not most of you anyway. Mr. Stewart

Whew...looks like a splendid time to have been away for a while.

YGK: silly one, asking questions like that of Ruby Baby.

Clas: it must be very boring in Sweden.

RubyBaby: I agree with your respect for the lyric "any minor world that falls apart comes together again". A grander perspective than the moment to moment and very minor tragedies that happen all the time. Sometimes things do work out, just wait half a second!! Thanks. BTW, if you need help painting, consider me first in line!

Paul C.

PS- DR. Mu, I guess you're still trying to figure what kind of person you are?

Yeeehaw!!! what the hell are you doin' way up there in Alaska, Mr. Stewart? It's a might bit cold up ther for a Texas boy, ain't it? Just sitting around and it's a little cold here as well. I can't remember who recomended it, but I went out and bought Moon Palace by Paul Auster. Good book. I'm enjoying it immensely. So thanks whoever you are.

Amanda Numero Uno... how ya doing? Haven't seen your face around here lately. Where'd you go?

How's Houston rabbit?

Amanda Numero Dos

Just been lurking at all the jerking...

StAl - I seem to recall you reprimanding a fellow poster for pointing the finger at Clas for those dirty pictures. Now, maybe I'm jumping the gun here, but aren't you guilty of the same thing by insinuating that I am ROCK? Hey now, let's at least be consistent.

About this Amanda situation...

Tedde - Haven't heard from you or Pete, I guess my offer wasn't good enough? Speaking of the Steely Damned Tour, what is 20 feet long and has 8 teeth? The front row at your show in Austin.

A friend of mine recently played me a tape from Roseland, I forgot how great On the Dunes was. Ricky Lawson would have been great on that tune.

Good ol´chaps, darn long time... I´ve been away for a while, so I had to read this site over again to see what we where talking about and I saw some comment that I forgot to respond to;

mr... scroll scroll... no, not mr, it was Babylon Sister.

BABYLON SISTER; Yes, I agree with you. To dissect music is for me like if you would tear a flower apart and look at the different parts and try to figure out why the flower is so beautiful.

RUBY; I don´t know what you mean here, I just read an interview with Wadenius and made a comment to it. What I mean is, try to remember who this guys are when you read Beckers "happy musicians" bullshit on some homepage here, I`ve forgot wich.

I´ll will wait for the Postman, and I think you should do so too.

PPPPaulCCC: Yeah, someone who knows the difference between Avagadro and an avacado.

Amanda, Rabbit, Mr Stewart: Yet another Texan here...and we're not the only ones.

What a fix!!!!! After years and years and years some Dan rarities which had not graced my ear yet arrived at my door. Home at Last (live) is so seamless, the pace ebbs and flows (I need Edd's help to explain the details), and the ENERGY!!! I'm sapped. ...and a nascent Your Gold Teeth II...Omartian, young Jeff Pocaro, Dias, Walter, Donald, Katz...after the guitar solo (my personal fave- Kinky told us that it was courtesy of Denny "I don't bend my finger for anyone" Dias) DF exclaims "Holy Fuck! That's great!!" The Heart of Steely Dan. Thank You!!!

Uhhh... I meant Denny"I don't bend a *string* for anyone" Dias

GEORGE: just got the tape in the mail....haven't listened to it, sure it'll be good.

I'm really digging this "Metal Leg" CD I picked up...someone please tell me that they've got it as well or I'm gonna start thinking I have discovered a rare live SD compilation all by meself...it's from 2 back-to-back shows from CA. in March 1974...

rudy

Rudy: yeah, I've got it, Irvine 3.10.1974 & San Diego (the city of brotherly Lovebob and Peg)3.9.1974. Capricorn Records 1995.

While we on the subject of old Steely Dan concerts....Does anyone know if they played in San Diego (the old Balboa Stadium) either in the summer of 1976 or 1977. My hubby and I are at odds over this one. He says SD played a big outdoor concert with Frampton and Gary Wright (he thinks). I say I don't believe they were there (quite likely though I wasn't in my right mind!!) Appreciate it if you could help resolve this conflict....

Does anyone know if "Eye to Eye" is still together?

There's a band by that name booked at a Connecticut casino on April 6th. I'd hate to drive down and be disappointed...

Edd (who just spent a week in L.A. and understands why D&W couldn't wait to get back to NYC...)

HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY!!!!!! Even though I don't really care, coming from the highlands of Scotland (sunny OLD Scotland). I'm an immortal you see...according to the movie anyway. But I never miss an opportunity to have a good excuse for drinking too much. A little St. Paddy's day joke for you: What's Irish and stays out all night? Paddy O' Furniture. HA HA HA ...ha ha..ha hum...

Amanda Numero Dos

amanda numero dos--whassup? houston is great, except for all the flash flooding, that is. did you say you were in tyler? how is spring break?

i must say i'm quite gratified to find some fellow texans on the board. road trip to austin to see the steely damned, anyone?

kinky--where are you from, new jersey or something? have you ever been to austin? i guess your crack about austin must be just a symptom of some pathetic, yankee inferiority complex, kind of like the one goldkeith obviously has......

heheheh....

peace,

rabbit

Oh great...another geographical war. (Yawn) Bye, bye Dallas.

rabbit, sorry you're soggy. Tyler's okay, and spring break is better. You have a point. I mean we live in the only state that could get away with printing cool t-shirts about it... you probably won't see anybody wearing a shirt that says "Fuck You, we're from Idaho" now wil you? They're just jealous. I'm only kidding, guys. I don't want to be responsible for another war about anyone's geographical location. I mean technically I wasn't even born here, I was born in New Mexico. But I'm still a Texan forvever, damnit. I guess I must've missed something rabbit, but who are the steely damned? and when's the show?

We fought, now I can't remember why. But we'll walk between the raindrops back to your door, won't we rabbit?

Amanda Numero Dos

p.s.--in honor of the holiday I just won't to add that I'm southern by birth, but Scottish by the grace of God...and if anyone wants to get into a fight with ME about being Scottish, well, you just go ahead and try...'cause I'm way to proud for anything you say to even provoke a response. Plus I'll just cut your head off with a sword or something!!!!

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In Houston-

"You open up your wet-suit and you swim between the raindrops back to your door..."

Aquaman Numero Quatro

Oh shit, it´s so boring here in Sweden. I wish I was born in Tyler, east Texas.

Cold Lazarus

Texas Sucks! Yuck!

Period.

In fact, it´s so boring here Sweden so I soon will commit suicide. When it´s time for us swedes to kill our selfs we can borrow a gun from the government. But we have to pay for the bullet. Did you know we all have to wear grey uniforms? No cars, no guitars, no movies. Just grey uniforms and work all day. Oh I wish I was born USA, in some isolated village in the Appalachian, I could play my banjo for my parents, who probably was closely related before they got married. Or Slidell, sitting ouside my hovel and listen to the crickets, oh maay, oh maay. And my favou-movie would be Toppgun, with Tom Cruise, the best actor in the world. I mean in USA. (well, thats the same deal)

Oh jee oh jee

spare me, pissboy.

Aye, Aye! Amanda - "The Blood Is Strong"

I'm also a Scot by lineage, but a New Yorker by birth, and if anyone wants to get into a fight about my being a New Yorker, well, don't waste my time!

Mac-Kinky - there seems to be a "minorworld" that misses your wit and wisdom, wazzup with dat?

YGK

Aye, Aye! Amanda - "The Blood Is Strong"

I'm also a Scot by lineage, but a New Yorker by birth, and if anyone wants to get into a fight about my being a New Yorker, well, don't waste my time!

Mac-Kinky - there seems to be a "minorworld" that misses your wit and wisdom, wazzup with dat?

YGK

Tell you what Keith, I won't make any comments about you being from NY if you don't start in on me about Texas(SOME people just can't resist an opprotunity to...and I didn't even SAY anything about Sweden) And it's good to hear from another Scottish person. Lowlands or Highlands?

Amanda

well i'm back.... have i mentioned that my dad is from texas? well he is... fort worth to be exact. but i abstain from any pro- or anti-texas comments, because that's just dumb.

anyway, i, too, am home for spring break, which is why i HAVEN'T been posting.... i guess there's more to do in l.a. than in tyler. anyway, i've got no real news to report, except that i, myself, am back in the studio with a steely dan cover... this time it's "daddy don't live in that new york city no more"... though i really don't think my daddy ever lived in that new york city, to be honest.

amanda #1

PPPaul: I suppose you're right - just wait half a sec. The thing I've come to realize is this: it's ALL minor! Hey, thanks for the offer to help paint. If you'll notice though,(use your cyber-vision now)THERE IS NO LINE! BTW: How tall are you?

Hi, Amanda #1! I'm glad you had better things to do. At least SOMEBODY has a life around here!

If I suddenly found myself in a studio, I think I would do MIYS. I sound pretty good on that one in the shower!

CLAS: Jou love the thunder,jou love the rain. See ja later,gator!

RubyBaby

OK, OK - no Texas comments

I just remembered the T that says,

"Brooklyn, where the weak are killed and eaten."

Partially true, partially false - 'tis more hype than reality tho.

YGK

G'day all... Just planning the family's 'World Tour' for later this year, hoping that by the time we reach NY, the album's out and D&W are showcasing the new album. Got to sort out our NY accomodation (budget-ish) so any suggestions from Manhattanites or regular visitors would be gratefully received. [Prague also a problem if there are any Guestbookers from there with local knowledge]

Mr Stewart: p/c written and on its way to the frozen north. Hope it's not too late to help secure the popcorn.

Clas...: now be nice (and send Mr Stewart a postcard).

Richard&kangaroos

YGK: OK, that's Manhattan NOT Brooklyn

Thanks R&ks...

I have a better offer..... Also have to disagree on AIA, Ithink Green Ear & Kid C are the class acts for that disc.

Sorry to keep plugging away here, but I wanted to let you know I added some sound bytes to the page. Let me know if the AU format is OK, or if you have a better suggestion. Some of these tunes you've probably heard, but I'll continue to try to dig up some rare stuff.

Amanda #1 Dad's from texas, eh? no wonder you're so cool(that' doesn't mean people from other places aren't cool, though. jeez, it's getting to where i feel the need to apologize anytiime a mention a geographical location at all...this is ridiculous) having a good time on your spring break i hope. i've ended up spending most of mine writing a paper on King Lear. anyone wanna help?!?! proobably not. good to see your post A. you're number one ha ha.

oh gosh it's getting late and i'm getting weird

i wonder, clas, would you care to discuss something neutral for a change? i mean you are swedish..and it's close to switzerland...

peace my zombies

now we dolly back, now we fade to black

The NYR+SR is the best sounding "live" album I have ever heard. All the songs are very crisp and clean with the sound up front.

I like AIA, but I think that NYR+SR sounds better.

AIA does have some great songs. Third World Man (slower/scarier/menacing Fagen vocals) and Aja (great chorus/harmony) are superb. I like them even more than the originals.

Would most people here agree that NYR+SR sound quality is a little better than AIA? If so why? Indoor vs. Outdoor venue(s) maybe?

m.e.

(with no sleep)

AMANDA 1 or 2; Sweden is neutral.

Mr. Stewart: My postcard's off to Alaska.

Ruby: Now I'll probably be seen a little more often soon. As I found out again lately, there's always a greener pasture to be found, if you look out. Steppenwolf gotta move on.

Hey all: Who would be willing to tape me some roulade(s) that Cathy Berberian can/could sing? Anybody out there? email me pls. And if someone has ideas or places for Good King Richard (see above), I'd like to be CC'ed, as we'll be around the place in summer, too.

over. George.

GOOD KING RICHARD; OK, I will try. Promise.

Have you seen a kangaroo, in the wilderness? They can kick asses can´t they? Tell me all about it.

(WHO should I send a postcard?)

AMANDA 1 or 2; (how am I supposed to keep them apart, I can´t keep myself apart) So, your from Scotland! That is funny because I was asking my dear (my dearest, dearest little honeycomb) Ruby about inches and the metric system, but she did not bother to answer, she was only interested in sex. Well, do you know if Scotland has their own metric system, Scotland Yard?

And now I will go and fuck myself. Sex on your own is at least sex with someone you respect.

m.e. I agree with your assessment of the sound on NYR&SR. My guess is that the venue (Beacon Theatre vs. outside stadiums) and the sound equipment used for the outside performances are the key differences in the crispness of the sound. DF produced both releases and Roger Nichols manned the board on AIA tours. I'd like to hear from others who would have more direct knowledge of those performances/equipment. I still love many of the performances on AIA. s Aja and TWM, the Book of Liars performance is also dazzling. There was something special about the way Warren Bernhardt, Drew Zingg, and Peter Erskine worked together with '93 SD

Good King Traveler: New York City presents a myriad of possibilities for hotel accomodations, as well as a myriad of opinions of people in or out of the know. I'll probably get flamed for some of my suggestions, but what the hell.

I haven't yet heard of a Motel 6 in Manhattan, but some of the less expensive chains include the Ramada Inn (West side, theatre district), the Holiday Inn (midtown). The Hyatt is a bit pricier. There are options, though. For instance, you could stay at a B&B in Brooklyn (one that I know of). No, the neighborhood isn't scary - actually it's quite nice. Park Slope, Brooklyn, is one of the fastest growing communities in the city, and for good reason. Prospect Park centralizes a liberal following of families, artists, musicians, entrepreneurs, etc. The B&B I'm thinking of is right on the park and reasonable. So enough about my neighborhood.

If you can avoid staying in midtown as a general rule, that would help you avoid the tourist trappings. I prefer downtown. If you could contact your international travel agent, they would probably have the industry hots of the moment, but those above are some guidelines.

I'll ask at my company and see if I could get you a corporate discount, but I'll need travel details.

Anyway, if you get lost in NY, ask a New Yorker, they love to tell you where to go and what to do.

YGK

Clas, Iam Scottish, it's true but I have never lived there so I don't know if they have their own metric system or what.

Amanda #2

I have a question for all you musician type people out there. I play the piano and I was wondering if anyone knows of a book of Steely Dan's music, a fake book, guitar tablature, anything, that I can use as a guide just to learn the chords for some of the songs on the piano. If such a thing does not exist, would anyone that knows the chords to some of the songs(in particular, songs with more prominent piano parts, like Home At Last or Sign In Stranger) be kind enough to let me know what they are? I would be most appreciative.

Amanda #2

Morey Eel - I think it's obvious that the quality of NYR&SR is better than AIA, and here are my thoughts on why that is: The absence on AIA of Dave Hewitt & crew from Remote Recording Services. Dave has been involved in most of the great live recordings over the years, it seems that everything he touches turns to gold. Also, could it be that long time Dan engineer Elliot Scheiner was also not involved in the recording and mixdown process on AIA?

Your theory on the outdoor vs. indoor venues doesn't really stand up. Afterall, not every song on AIA was recorded outdoors, Babylon Sisters was from an indoor venue in St Pete, and it still doesn't have the quality of NYR&SR.

But then again, all this chatter really doesn't matter. Knowing our friends over at Steely Dan, these songs were probably all redone in the studio anyway. But you probably figured this on your own, considering you quoted the word "live". But, hey, I'm sure that the applause was legit.

sometimes i read this guestbook and i wonder...is it possible for an individual to know TOO much about steely dan? the world may never know. i only wish i knew half as much about them as some of you people do. you're just too cool.(and that wasn't a sarcastic remark.)

as far as NYR&SR and AIA are concerned, i like them both. so there.

how many scots does it take to screw in a lightbulb? three. one to hold the lightbulb and two to drink until the room spins around.

amanda #2

...picture a Scotsman in a kilt with the pipes standing next to a hat full of money - the sign reads "Pay or I Play!"

Malcolm

aka YourGoldKeith

Always glad to help out a fellow Scot (Menzies clan) and piano player. Hal Leonard pulished a book in 1995 - Steely Dan Complete - about $25 I'm sure if your local music store doesn't have it they'd be happy to order one. It has both of those pieces.

Enjoy!!!!!!!!!

good one malcolm. and thanks, sister. good to know another scot. i'm a McLeod myself...i prefer to be refered to as Queen of the Highlands.

gotta go work on my paper. i'm still waitng for someone to offer to help. any shakespeare efficianados in the bunch?

queenie

...piping in for the Hunter clan...

from the mouth of Sir Harry Lauder, "if ye c'n sae it's a braw bricht moonlicht t'nicht y'r aw'rite, ye can"

haw haw hee hee hoo hooo

I'm sure I've said this before, but anywaze...

Most of the published Steely Dan music sux, ranging from down-right wrong to over simplified. It got better as time went on, with the tunes from "Gaucho" being remarkably close in spite of the complexity of the pieces.

Even the "Scores" compilation, while a worthwhile acquisition, has its' moments.

Plan on spending about about 90% of your time figuring out what's wrong and fixing it...

Edd

YGK: Thanks!... That's a great start by which to judge all other recommendations. More Suggestions (for me & George) please.

As for the Scots debate (a Grant and a Murray clan by descent), I lived there for a few years and remember most of the measuring system in pints and parts of gills, though they do have their own currency. And as for Shakespeare ('the Scottish play'?), Amanda/queenie, it's been a while since college but I guess between us we can come up with a bit of help. What's the assignment?

As for the NYR&SR and AIA debate (this is the Danfan page after all), the renderings of Pretzel Logic and Lonely Teardrops are true class and beautifully recorded (the video ain't bad either) but, with ordinary hifi, I have to take AIA as the next true step towards Dan-enlightenment.

Richard&kangaroos

PS Yes Clas... truly beautiful animals! Though unfortunately usually seen dead at the side of the road.

thanks for your offer, Your Worship. i'm writing about King Lear and the topic or main idea is death...what else?

Edd...thanks for the info. i don't mind fixing what's wrong with it. i don't read music all that well, i mostly play by ear anyway. and part of the reason i want the music is so that i can teach myself a bit of theory since even after 10 years of classical piano lessons i'm still no good at it. what better way to learn theory than to sit around and try to figure out a steely dan tune, right?

had no idea there were so many scots. it's a truly beautiful thing, eh?

queenie(i guess i just accidentally on purpose solved our little amanda confusion problem by giving myself a new name... and it's a doozy)

Could I interrupt these intersting discussions for a more mundane query. I need to know the publishing info for SD on Royal Scam,the song i.e. year and publishing company. I and my publisher thank you in advance.

Congratulations and happy anniversary to the relevant parties on this Big Day in Dandom, March 19th

Been out a while. I have a St. Patricks birthday. What a great day to be born on! Too much green beer.

The April edition of Acoustic Guitar came in today. Pat Matheny is on the cover. He has a new acoustic CD out with Charley Hayden. Any Dan fans out there have it? I plan on purchasing this weekend. I'll let you know.

I put on CD #4 in the box set today. Very cool songs. Michael McDonald does a great job on Time Out Of Mind. Home at last is in my top 3 Dan best.

Large Nawlin's hello to Kink, Earth B, Clas, Max, Rube, Skinny Man.

Jazz Fest, very close. Any Dan fans going, E me.

Zeke

Zeke,

The new Charlie Haden/Pat Metheny release is called "Beyond The Missouri Sky". It is a mostly acoustic CD with Metheny doing some fills on keyboards here and there. If you like Pat's ballads and/or his album "New Chautauqua", then you'll love this one. A very melodic, introspective, folky feel to it. Pat and Charlie have never played better together. It's also got some "80/81" type of stuff on it ala "Two Folk Songs". Do get it! The "Cinema Paradiso Theme" is especially beautiful.

Brian,

RE: Royal Scam publishing info...

"Royal Scam" Donald Fagen and Walter Becker, American Broadcasting Music, Inc. (ASCAP) 1976 ABC Records, Inc.

mWorld, Ruby, et al. thanks for the comments on the page...

Joe

Amanda/queenie: 'Streuth queenie! It's tough to be a king sometimes. My pretentious thoughts on death and King Lear are yours but probably best not in this forum... maybe via e-mail return if you mail me at the above address. Richard&kangaroos

ZEKE; Wellcome back. You´re out of the rain? I heard you had lots of it a while ago.

AMANDA Queenie; Yes, I guess Edd is right here, Steely Dan Complete is a little... lacky? Ask Ruby, There´s no notation on pianosolos and such stuff, just half part of the intros and so. But I think it´s nice to just play along with some of the songs, I guess you can figure out the missing parts, you´re scottish! (I´m sorry about that foolish little joke here about Scotland Yard, Scotland Yard is UK´s answer to FBI)

RUBY-HONEYPIE: The last days I´ve been listening to Can´t Buy A Thrill, I´ve almost forgot how many good songs there are on that one.

"With a cough I shake it off..."

'PS hell, I almost forgot: HAPPY BIRTHDAY RUBY!

Again?!? Another Josie epidemic? Some of you people are coming on here like this is a social chat board. If you want to discuss ancestory and homework, why don't you find your own fucking forum. This place is ridiculous, no wonder all the regulars stopped posting.

Why is it that everytime someone posts something relevant or interesting, no one responds? Morey Eel brings up an interesting topic, and the teenyboppers respond by talking about their homeland. And the rest of you hard up cases see a so-called female and egg them on (I mean, from Gold Malcolm we expect it), but this is a STEELY DAN board, isn't it?

I guess the only conclusion I can make is that your lack of response signifies your lack of knowledge of the band, which is OK. But why don't you shutup and try to learn something, or else go somewhere else.

And Queenie, don't flatter yourself.

Kink & Eel: I don't have AIA here at work but I think it's clearly stated in the sleeve(?) that there was some "corrections" made in the studio. Let me guess that it was mainly the vocals.

KINKY: Rumour has it DF digitized the audience response and painstakingly shifted each hand clap to create the perfect audience feel for each tune. Notice the laid back swing feel of the applause following AIA'S "Reelin'" BTW, heartfelt thank yous for your generous offer. Our inability to accept was based soley on econcs. Our best case financial scenario had us breaking even, a situation tannenmount to taking a week off. This might be an acceptable situation further on up the road, but as I explained to Pete, it would have been somewhat crippling in the record slow first quarter we had. I hope the offer might be good at a later date, although my personel financial needs are about to under go those changes that happen when one brings a new Dan Fan into the world. Question: Do you think home field advantage had much if anything to do with NYR&SR's superior sound quality? It seems to me that having the venue so close at hand AND twice as many chances at getting it right would weigh in heavily as quality factors. The outdoor / indoor argument doesn't hold too much water as everything was close-mic'ed anyways. Just a thought. Kudos for doing your homework on this one.

lovebob

re: New York Rock & Soul Revue! Anybody out there willing to fix me a tape with that? Email me please. It's probably not so easy to find the CD over here. And I need to work on my knowledge, ok?

Ruby: "Mad dog surrender" seems to me rather Beckeresque. I do like the lyrycs of DTMA very much, there's so many cool phrases, "agents of the law, luckless pedestrians ..." and all. Actually, do we know if any of the lyrics are WB or DF? I guess no, the credits all name them both.

LASSEMAN! Where have you been? It´s lonely out here. And you have to be carefull out here. Do you wear your uniform today, grey commie?

Followed an obscure link on the SD site to a nice fan-made webpage devoted to Wayne Krantz: check it out.

Amanda #2

As far as Dan Chords and Tablature goes, go to www.harmony-central.com and look up the guitar tablature section, it has quite a few Dan tunes listed including chord progressions.

Hope this helps...

"It'll come back to you"

Fez

Ah, I love the contradictions, Kink - you are a legend in your own mind.

"Why is it that everytime someone posts something relevant or interesting, no one responds?"

Is that a relevant statement?

Your socialistic statement makes me think you belong in Sweden, or try China - maybe try to infiltrate their political system (ha!).

So if you're so brilliant, prove it. Otherwise shut the fuck up and stay off the board. Idiotic statements by mutts like you disturb the natural Dan-related/non Dan related discussions on the board.

Yes, this is the Steely Dan Web page - NOT the page according to Kinky.

Welcome back, jerky. Now say something meaningful other than "I live in Greenwich".

YGK

Ruby: Happy Birthday?

mW

Post cards, post cards, hundreds of 'em pouring in daily. The pop corn party is as good as sewn up but keep sending them in (see my first post for details/address). I think the ice sculptures are melting, so there is talk of revising the other prize...maybe a trip to the zoo to see the polar bear. The kids are enjoying the messages: from mworld: "Kids if you want some fun, Mr. StewArt is your man." Thanks to: Amanda, Ruby, (Good King) Richard, Mworld, Georgio and the hundreds of others. Don't delay. Mr. Stewart

Perhaps EddC and some of you bodhisattvas of musical analysis can check me out on this: I was listening to the bridge of "Through With Buzz" (I remember when he stole my girl...) and was intrigued by the spacing of the high hat (or cymbal, or whatever that little 'tsssshhtt' is). The high hat is hit only four times during the bridge, the first two times after 8-1/2 beat pauses and the last two times after 6-1/2 beat pauses. Unsymmetrical but catchy.

Another nifty percussionism is the sparsity of the snare in "Everything You Did". There's only about 5 hits in the first minute of the song and they're all positioned unexpectedly and perfectly.

Do B&F micromanage the percus