SIS Archives -- May 2000

How about GROOVE COLLECTIVE and SD...or SOUL COUGHING and SD (oops, they just broke up) or how about THE BAND, you know the back-up guys, just come out early and hit us with sum dam JAZZ. That'll do her.

worm: Sounds like it ain't over till it's over. Thanx, I have been studying the wormid tongue and unlike a recent poster, I purr sun a Leigh in Joy ids Depps. Fountains of Wayne, that new album is not bad.

Aja: You are sooo right. That type of listener will walk up to an instore listening station with the whole CD and inevitably will tune immediately to the tune they can hear six times an hour on the radio, grab their pal, they nod approvingly, set down the phones and buy the same slop all the other hogs are buying. Thank god for people like all of you.

MidniteC: Thanx for letting me live that show again. Looked supremo from row numero ocho.

Ole: Girl you da masta tweaka. I just recently slammed into yo bad site ugin. You, Grandmasta St. Al, and MC Hoops be off da hook wid ya'lls hieroglyphic joints. (Psst...get the hall of flame ready...)

Chere: By the time I send this you will have POSTED !!! It's scary, sis. Hope the back is not as whack. Get well soon.

OK, I think it's time to propose the institution of The GuestBook Auxiliary. Some of us have saintly and long-suffering spouses who merely give a wry grin at our latest "Get a load of the Osaka setlist!!!" Others, like the Sportcoat, I mean Blazer, have to slink up to the computer during the hour of the wolf to whisper through the cyberkeyhole. Others, who knows, have SO's who would have the divorce papers out in a New York nano if they knew half the shit slung here. Seems to me that tour time is the right time to get them all together. Maybe they can quilt, or tat, or at least get a good buzz on together and swap war stories ("My wife/ hubby drove TWELVE HOURS to spend a weekend with a bunch of those obsessive dipshits!") (true story) while we, finally free, submit our 12th post of the day or do our quotidian ritual Alta Vista Steely Dan search. Or tweak our obscure specialty webpage, ahem.

Really. They have a lot in common, the Steely Aux, and it might give us a welcome if not well-deserved breather.

Then, once it's established, maybe we can talk about Steely Summer Camp and the Steely Day Care....

Yo! Midnite Cruiser, great post !

Innocent ONE

Hi,
Two tickets section 103 Row G seats 29-30

Lets talk....

Should be Sadowsky... with a Y !
(thanks midnite...)

well...here it is, straight from the bowels of John Granatino's excellent archives!

From the DanFan Guestbook, Under the Banyan Trees: Midnite Cruiser jtalbott@gamewood.net Mon Jul 8 04:34:58 PDT 1996 writes:

And now, a report from the Raleigh, NC show: 8:15pm

1st Set:

1. Do It Again
2. Bad Sneakers---Walt Solo
3. Everyone's Gone To The Movies---Walt & Don Split Vocals
4. Peg---Wayne Solo
5. New Song---Jack Of Speed--Walt Vocal--Wayne 1st Solo--Walt 2nd Solo
6. Band Intro with FM playing in the background.
7. Any Major Dude---Wayne Solo
8. Green Earrings--Walt 1st Solo--Wayne 2nd Solo--John Organ Solo-- Cornelius Sax Solo--Wayne Solo Again
9.My Waterloo---Walt Vocals--Wayne Solo
10. Green Flower Street---Wayne Solo
11. Ruby---John Piano Solo--Cornelius Sax Solo--Ari Sax Solo-- Wayne Solo x 2

break at 9:15---return at 9:38

2nd Set

12. East St. Louis Toodle-oo---Walt melody part on guitar--Wayne Steel part on regular guitar-- John Piano Solo--Michael Trumpet Solo
13. Glamour Profession---John Piano Solo--Wayne Solo
14. New Song---Wet Side Story---Don Vocal--Walt Solo
15. New Song---Cash Only Island---Cornelius Sax Solo--Wayne Solo
16. Midnite Cruiser---Walt Vocal--Walt & Wayne do harmony Solo--Walt and Wayne trade 8's--Walt Outro Solo
17. Black Cow---John Fender Rhodes Solo--Ari Sax Solo
18. Home At Last---Walt 2 short solos between verses--Michael Trumpet Solo--Walt Solo--Walt Outro Solo
19. Kid Charlemane---Wayne Solo

End Of Second Set---10:22
Encore---10:25

20. I.G.Y. (What A Beautiful World This Would Be)---Cornelius Sax Solo
21. Rikki Don't Lose That Number---Ari Sax Solo--Walt Mini Solo
22. Cool Outro Jam as Walt & Don exit the stage---Cornelius Sax Solo

show ends at 10:40---way too early!

Gear Section:
Can't say exactly who was playing through which amp but here goes... Walt played a blue Sadowsky Strat w/3 single coils, Don
played the Rhodes most of the show and "that damn blue thing," Wayne Krantz played a natural Sadowsky Strat w/3 single coils,
Tom Barney played Natural ESP 5 string with quilted maple top, Ricky Lawson played Remo kit with Paiste cymbals,
John Beasley played a baby grand and an organ...couldn't see brand, Don't know about the horns, the two Lovely Ladies singing
back-up wore black and stole my heart!
Amps: 2 small Mesa Maverick Dual Rectifier Class A Heads, with Mesa 2-12 cabs, 1 Bogner Ecstasy Head w/Bogner 4-12 cab, 1 small rack w/Sony Wireless Receiver, Tube Works pre-amp & Mesa Chrome Professional 20/20 Power Amp, 1 large rack w/Juice Goose Power Conditioner, Korg Digital Rack Tuner, Mesa/Boogie Tri-Axis pre-amp, Lexicon Reflex, Lexicon PCM 80, Custom Audio Trem/Reverb(2), Drawer Stereo Compressor, Hush Guitar Silencer, Walt has a Custom Audio Electronics Pedal Board...couldn't see face, 2 Gallien-Krueger Bass Heads w/3 SWR Cabs, each with 4-10's and a tweeter in the center of each cab.
I'm sure I've missed some details, if you have further questions I'll do the best I can on answering them... Now that all the tech stuff is out of the way I'd just like to say this...I thought the show was very tight with only very small glitches here and there...as anyone in music knows, there's no such thing as a perfect set. I thought Don's voice was in exceptional form. I thought Walt's vocals were great too and I disagree with whoever said his vocal was weak on Midnite Cruiser, the harmonies on that song could have been worked out a little better...I thought the 3 new songs cooked, can't wait for the new album! I thought Wayne's playing was very good, more economical than Drew but very, very tasty! The band is really tight and unless you just disagree with the song selection you will not be disappointed! Someone had commented on the crowd at the two earlier shows...Raleigh seemed to be pretty full...the lawn wasn't overflowing but it was a good crowd that was very vocal and the guys seemed to really apprecitate it. I was so close I couldn't hear the P.A. that good but the stage mix sounded excellent...I'll let someone who was farther back fill in the rest of the gaps.
One last parting note: I got one of Walt's guitar picks!!! Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!!! It's a Black, Jim Dunlop 1mm pick...no engraved bullshit for old Walt! And that's it for me...I loved it, I think you will too!
I can now die a happy man,
Midnite Cruiser

***and that's the way it was, July 7, 1996***

MC

Q & gang,

I believe I already posed that question Man! Of course, it wasn't chosen by St. Al & gang...thanks alot guys!

I thought it was an excellent question. I phrased it a bit differently, but, this was the general idea:
******************

Would you consider doing a musical project with other musicians, as did Carlos Santana and Ry Cooder (Buena Vista Social Club), and, if so, who would you most like to work with?
*******************

Okay, so I used different examples. Knowing what I know now, they would NEVER give this a straight answer and I would have been slightly irritated -- Alas, I really would've liked to know their thoughts on the above CD's.

Speaking of amazing guitarists, we were given perfectly good Peter Frampton tickets last summer for Pine Knob. They had great difficulty selling this show! It's one of the best I've seen in years! The DVD was taped at this venue and has just been released. Won an award for best concert DVD of the year.

Q: This is as close as you'll come to seeing a great PK show without actually being there. Watched the whole DVD at my cousins' last night and it was just as fabulous all over again. Indescribable.

Even if you are NOT a Frampton fan (I wasn't! -- note past tense), you owe it to yourself to rent, or better yet, buy this DVD!

I know, I know, I've gotten so much flak for mentioning Frampton on an SD board before.

One of several times I've been accused of being uncool (the ultimate sin!) and then the same finger pointers proclaiming that they "invented" the music I was listening to. This has happened countless times with SD as well! Too funny!

By the by, Just found out tonight that my next door neighbor regularly wears out Countdown to Esctasy on his comute to & from work. I NEVER KNEW! He & wife are huge fans. I've lived next to them for YEARS! World is small & getting smaller.

Peace!

looeez

Michelle, mail me above about the extra ticket.

Here's wishing Donald and Walter and the band a successful North American tour. Go get 'em guys! The GB loves you! Have a damn helluva party!

... Walter- Remember. Bring the Sadowski and maybe some extra strings... and chiba.

... Donald- When the ladies in the front throw their underwear at you don't go into the Ray Charles thing. 'kay?

Hutch

Hutch....got it today....one thousand thanks....it's awesome!!!

Looking forward to hearing reports from Portland & the Gorge....someone please post the set list and other must have info before you crash that night....I did it in '96 after a two hour drive home, surely someone will do it? Whether you want to see it or not, I think I'm going to dig out my report from '96 and post it just for the hell of it....report to follow if I can still find where it's posted.

MC

Hey emergency question!!! Does anyone have any extra Steely Dan Tickets to the San Diego show??? I want the other person to be some what close!!!!
Thanks to anyone who might have them!!

I.O.

The question I wish I had asked during the Hoops/St. Al opportunity:

D&W : Are there any notable "rock" guitarists like a Steve Howe or a Jeff Beck ( ie stylistically unique and virtuoso) who you ever thought of working with on the creation of a particular song?

Holy sh^&%$%^TTTT !!!!!!!! there are danfans groovin to the boys RIGHT NOW !!!!!!!!

Life is gooooodddddd!!!!

Q

I was wondering if anyone knew the configuration the Universal Amp and how the angles are to the stage from the say ORCHESTRA 6
or 8?

Thanks

Just thought I'd add to the "Almost Gothic" madness: "foursquare" is probably a passing reference to the Foursquare Gospel Church, founded by early 20th-century U.S. evangelist Aimee Semple McPherson (sp?). So there's a repeated theme in this song of intense faith: "living on gospel time," the "foursquare" line, and the "amen corner" line. This guy's a total convert to worshipping his quirky "almost-gothic" girl. Anyhoo, that's how I read it.

In a few short hours I will be "void of course" with regard to Internet access. I'll be going over to Diane/Jackofday's house to await the remaining bozos who'll be on our bus, and Diane's computer has gone rather spectacularly on the fritz! So--I'll be seeing some of you in a matter of hours; a whole bunch more of you in a couple of days; and the rest of you sometime late Sunday night. Don't burn the GB down while I'm gone, y'hear?

Am I ready? Lessee here ... [fling open window, tilt head in general direction of where the moon should be]

aaaaaAAAAARRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, I think I'm ready!!!

Party on, dudes and dudettes!!!!!

/Mam'zelle Daphne G. Canard
revving up for TAKEOFF!

P.S. My Gorge reports will prolly show up in the usual places, and also on http://www.drizzle.com/~mizducky -- though prolly not immediately, if you know what I mean :-)

...Or is it the narrator who's renovating a church abandonned by the faithful (she's all buzz, then noise-free). He's working on Gospel time these days. In fact, he's in the amen corner now, as he speaks. He's got to make it work somehow. It's a labor of LUV. He refers to it, lovingly, as Little Eva of Bleeker Street when he's done. Little chapel, meet your surroundings. The rest is a poetic description of how she touches him in ambivalent ways. Nah. Let's stick with the girl who's built foursquare...

YGK- oh, so I'm guessing that no one is opening for them in Cali. and west cost right?

Ruby Baby- Wow I would be like WHOA too! But that's cool! I'm so exicited to meet you. See ya in san diego

Stevie Dan- thank you for excluding KD and myself, we obviously know what real music is!!!

Ree Ree- (Chere)- damn I don't get to meet you! OH NO! I was looking forward to that. So you are not going to the san diego show!!! :-( NO!!

Sorry this is sooo short but I have a lot of homework! Finals are soon!! Talk to you all soon! I'm almost done!!

i.o.

nawlins - You must run out and buy Fountains of Wayne's Utopia Parkway. A pop classic! The CD makes the every major critic's Top 10 list and then Atlantic drops them for mediocre sales. That's the music biz these days!

Just saw on the Smashmouth web site they will be on with Jay Leno on June 13 to play "Do It Again". Hey 2 scoops in 2 days, I'm like the Bob Woodward of the GB!
Mark in Boston

Almost Gothic - And I thought that song was, at least in part, about a man smitten with the architectural beauties of a church. In Communion with a work of art. Man, I was way off!

Boston Rag

another person that likes Fountains of Wayne!!! yes!

haven't heard their second album
but love that garage band 3 chord melodic drive

reminds me of the 70's Modern Lovers
with Jonathan Richmond
now an icon with his "SOmething About Mary" cameos
they were way before their time
Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole indeed

Steely could tour with Smashmouth
and do the cover tune DIA together

I saw Pearl Jam Yield tour with Cheap Trick opening in 99
and Eddy Vedder came on and sang Surrender to close their opening set
too cool and 10 PJ encores in bad ass r&r detroit
nobody sat at all the whole show and the crowd was the intensest I have ever witnessed and I grew up in 70's rock and rollia
even people diving the stage from the balcony

I love a lot of new music. My favorite artists after Steely Dan are: Fountains of Wayne, Blinker the Star, Owsley and UnAmerican to name a few. All relatively new bands.

I'm not a music snob and I don't want to give the impression I'm bashing "The Clarks". Hell, I've never even heard any of their songs other than a soundbyte. I might even love the band after I see them. It's just puzzling to me why after 3 90's tours with no opening act, SD suddenly has "The Clarks" opening for them.

Maybe we'll be shocked and it will be the remaining Dave Clark 5 and they'll open with "Glad All Over" Yes!!!!

alright, late last week we had fun with Negative Girl
and yes I have had more than my share of one of them and already three and a half years removed (thank God)

let's dive into another Neg gal of Gothic proportions

I like Brain Dead Dawn's analogy to Billy Joel's "She's always a women - alluring and sensual but deadly and conniving at the same time.

I also like Mr Lapage's view that this is a mid sixties NYC brothel with a few modern words thrown in for these times

Here's goes a little wormian spin
wormtrails in ~

AL M O S T G O T H I C

I'm working on gospel time these days
(The summer - this could be the cool part of the
summer)

~ gospel time? I've overextended myself and only by the Grace of God and I still alive, temptations have got the best of me

The sloe-eyed creature in the reckless room she's so
severe
A wise child walks right out of here

~ not a physical defect but her character as seen from a struggling Christian who is not overwelemd with legalism, but trying to avoid or overcome his fleshly desires.

~ she is a bit dimwitted and accepts her position
a runaway making it on the streets the only way she can?
certainly a 60's hooker would be considered tame by today's standards but is an outrage in general americana, but NYC is a different place

I'm so excited I can barely cope
I'm sizzling like an isotope
I'm on fire so cut me some slack

CHORUS:
First she's way gone then she comes back
She's all business then she's ready to play
She's almost gothic in a natural way

~ his passions burn, she seems distant then warms up to him during the sexual exchange. Is she strung out on drugs or alcohol then the drug wears off?

~ the almost gothic is a nice touch - contrast to today's goths
she's the "vampire" of her times. Yet gothic also in terms of overdone like gothic architexture. She is overwelming to the indulging song's protagonist and she probably has to work as a prostitute although she may be cultured and have a more golden childhood. She's been in a bad situation and can't go home (outcast?) and yet doesn't quite fit on the streets

This house of desire is built foursquare
(The city - the cleanest kitten in the city)

~ yes NYC, again cleanest kitten - she is more middle class in upbringing yet is forced to live the life of prostitution

When she speaks it's like the slickest song I ever
heard
I'm hanging on her every word
As if I'm not already blazed enough
She hits me with the cryptic stuff
That's her style - to jerk me around

~ just when I am enthralled by her sophistication
she resorts to her present street tales (cryptic stuff)
and throws me back a little
she is playful in that way
and keeps him at bay and thus tries to distance herself emotionally

CHORUS:
First she's all feel then she cools down
She's pure science with a splash of black cat
She's almost gothic and I like it like that

~ she arouses then retracts
she is street smart only in the sense that it is for her survival on the streets

This dark place so thrilling and new
It's kind of like the opposite of an aerial view
Unless I'm totally wrong
I hear her rap and brother it's strong

~ looking up from the depths of her dungeon liar
he is repulsed an mystified at the lowly dark state of her existence

I'm pretty sure that what she's telling me is mostly lies
But I just stand there hypnotized

I'll just have to make it work somehow
I'm in the amen corner now
It's called love - I spell L -U- V

~ let me justify it, I am in love with her
I'm going to one day rescue her and God approves (the amen corner) or an alternative interpretation is that she is starting to approve of me and allow me to help her get off the street

CHORUS:
First she's all buzz then she's noise-free
She's bubbling over then there's nothing to say
She's almost gothic in a natural way

~ chatter, small talk and excitability yield to confort and lack of things to talk about. little common ground, but he is content to be there with her

She's old school then she's like young
Little Eva meets the Bleecker Street brat
She's almost gothic but it's better than that

~ humm, her musical tastes
she likes a bit of both old school and new
and is the Bleeker Street brat none other than Bob Dylan???

in summary a wayward mid sixties gal who turns to prostitution to stay alive on the streets. The young Chirstian man is smitten with her and finds her displaced innocence and street smarts dualy alluring in a paradoxial way. He knows he shouldn't indulge but is smitten just the same and attempts to justify it and rationalize that he will be the one to take her off the street

interesting song

comments? input? other slats of gothic i city?

The Cure, XTC, Stone Temple Pilots, the Chili Peppers, Foo Fighters and others I forget. All those "newer acts" have touched greatness and could do it again. Fact is, the desert grows. Or maybe it's just my hair line receding ever so slightly.

Worm - Forgot the lingo in Court, tommy?

ruby baby-dress warmly. June is the cloudiest month of the year here, though Coors Amp is inland and warmer. I can't wait to meet you, but your M.O. will be gazing at you. I just finished doing the typical woman thing of glaring into the bathroom mirror clutching a can of hairspray, and I sure couldn't find much to look at! My beau might come after all if Tom can't make it, but I'm not sure. The beau and I have been taking it VERY slow and I don't know if I'm ready to take him in public yet :)

chere-I have an old disc rupture, and I say definitely listen to cara mia! It's taken 9 years to get it to the point where I can be as athletic as I am, so get some good care. Avoid chiropractors-I've tried them and they made everything worse. NSAID's are non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (Motrin, Relafen-my NSAID of choice). They're the reason I can be a middle-aged triathlete! A good orthopod is your best friend.

We have an independent radio station here and I've heard some great new bands, but were it not for this station you'd never know they existed. And most of the new acts unfortunately don't stir up much interest with the general public, even though they might be very good. I hate to say the average radio listener is a moron who just wants to hear the same tripe over and over, but....

Steely Dan in 10 days!!!!!!!

Aja

Sociable Hermit: It's nice to see another fan of the Smith's on the board. I think that after Steely Dan, they have to be one of my favorite bands of all time. Their one of a handful of bands that make you want to read their lyrics in order to dissect them. Although Morrissey can be a little repetitive and gloomy, I think that is part of his charm. I love his lyrics.

I also like other early 80's British bands like Echo and the Bunnymen and The Cure. I actually saw Echo and the Bunnymen 3 years ago in East Hampton and they sounded great. Even their new stuff was pretty good. I was nicely surprised.

Ruby - thanks, I may still try to wing Diego but it doesn't look good. it is always great to visit family

Gina - welcome and thanks for your "it ain't heavy when it's heavy" comments, I dig you too and am a Diana Krall fan
good torch music for evenings by the fire

Aja and Chere - best of luck on the recover, ouch
my prayers go out to you there

David in the Fla Room - can we get an invite to that wedding?

Craig and Stevie and Cara Mia - yes the recording industry sucks
yes cd's are way overpriced, yes new artists are never able to spread their wings or are formalic in nature, and yes the general public is fed very mundane music which is expendable and requires little thought on their part

The Dan just starting out wouldn't cut to the top in todays field certainly

but like St Al says - there is good new music out there
just gotta search a lot harder. I go by reviews and go to alot of shows to find up and coming talent - it's a hard sift but there are some rewards, meanwhile I enjoy getting alot of reissues of old stuff on disc and expanding my blues and jazz catalogs

Clas - funny song there! bravo

Ruby - I had a friend with Lupus and she nearly died in childbirth, hope it is not indangering you

Black Crowes with Page doing three guitar onslaught of 70's Zeppelin fits nice with Kenny Wayne Sheppard

How about the Dan booked with Fiona Apple or Ben Fold's Five to reach the younger audience.

I'd prefer Liz Phair for totally selfish reasons who opened for Alanis but then I have a total and at times unhealthy wormy affection for my WhiteCHocolateSpaceGirl Tommy Feelgood indeed

cheer e ohh

Clas....the cd is in the mail.

David in the Fla Room....the check is in the mail.

YGK....the check is in the mail.

JWMalibu....where are you my friend? kinda worried about you!

> Hey The Monkees once opened for Jimi.
Nope, it's worse than that. Hendrix opened for them.

Clas: I'm not on my own computer, so I'll look at the Greenhouse Effects later. Thanks in advance!

oh - the exact way I want that sticker to appear:

every breath you take -
STEELY DAN
in the year of the cat

I want STEELY DAN to stand out!

Tom: I wrote you before I read your post. We'll take the opportunity to gather in Jesus' Name and pray even if you're not there. We're family, not yet met, not yet home; but family just the same.

chere: as one who lives with pain all the time, I can say you gotta "lean into it." Don't panic, don't let it rule you, but you can't ignore it. We don't seem to pray to the same Spirit, but I'll pray for you anyway. Mine is good, too. I'm thinking this back thing will pass and fade away...

rb

The State of Popular Music is rather atrocious. I do think we will hear (briefly) a larger percentage of one hit wonders than ever before, just like YGK and steveidan (hi, you two) say...it is the nature of the beast and beast-eaters.
Let's come back here and discuss this in 20 years, OK? It will take pages and pages in the archives to list the short-lived "hits" titles.

Joni Mitchell is one of the brave artists constantly speaking out in print and Loudly in her latest concert appearances against the music industry practices just as YGK describes.
Malcolm dear, you have inspired me to send my check early for the 3 copies I want of your lovely new package. You all should check him out at malcolmhunter.com.

Wormie~~bummer...much luck with whatever is best for the tykes

Chere~~a disc is the supporting (compare it to a bushing in a joint system of a car maybe?) fluid-filled "cushion" in between the vertebral bodies of the spine. Though tough, they can over time become weak, bulge out and press upon the root nerve or others in the spine, causing pain, paralysis, weakening of muscle groups, etc. Sometime the discs rupture, the fluid is lost and worse things can happen, or sometimes relief occurs as the nerve is no longer compressed. As a registered nurse (not an orthopedic one, for sure, so others can correct me if I am in error), I go with proven methods of treatment via valid studies and follow-up of thousands of patients and would recommend your following an MD's prescription for your diagnosed problem he/she finds. Chiropractors tend to not conduct valid studies of their methods, though their continued existence and happy customers lend a bit of validity to their efficacy in certain situations.
I'll shut up now, before I get feathered by some lurking interest that is heating up the tar. Good luck with it all, Chere.

ruby baby~~very much looking forward to meeting you. I wish I had some heat resistance myself these days with my hot flashes due to aging and hormonal shifts and wrinkles and wisdom and...
PENKO POWER!

cara mia

This pairing has got me stumped. I seriously doubt that B & F
know about this or really care about it. There's been a trend this summer to pair up acts to sell those last few thousand tickets.

Black Crowes & Jimmy Page added Kenny Wayne Shephard as their opening act. The Who just added a great new band called "UnAmerican" to their show. In fact, the Tweeter Center is now offering a combo deal for lawn seats to both of those shows at a reduced rate to sell the remaining tickets.

The Clarks web site says 6:00pm. The Steely Dan tickets have a time of 8:00pm for the start of show. Who will even be near the Tweeter Center at 6:00pm???

If the idea was to sell out the month of July, wouldn't it make more sense to have a band like Groove Collective or hell even Spyro Gyra. They're good for a few thousand seats.

The Clarks new album comes out on June 20. Unless there's a super smash hit on the CD, who is going to motivated to jump off the fence and get tickets? Better yet, who will even know about it this late in the game?

Hey The Monkees once opened for Jimi.

Mark in Boston

StevieDan, I'm with you my man. My post was not intended as a salute to the current music biz stau quo, but merely a comment on my view of the current state of affairs.
I don't listen to alot of new muic nowadays. I simply don't have the time to investigate new artists as YGK so eloquently states in his previous post.
With the recent release of 2vN, I learned this much about the current state of Steely Dan: Much to our chagrin, Steely Dan is now viewed by many as a nostalgia act and grouped in with this summer's cue of 80's rockers, i.e. Styx, REO, Chicago. I have had countless people express this sentiment when I've breached the subject of Steely an,2vN and this summer's tour.
Please keep in mind that preception is reality and this unfortunately is pretty much the preception by the majority of music listeners today. Hopefully, this attitude will change. Katy Lied was not entirely mainstream when it was released, but paved the way for the widely accepted AJA.
St Al's point about new music is well taken and I have found a few gems over the last several years. To name a few:

Soundgarden
Creed
Rusted Root
Rage Against the Machine
Dream Theater
Early-Pearl Jam

There's still hope,
Craig

Chere: The Smiths song you're talking about is, "How Soon Is Now", off of the album, "Meat Is Murder". My favorite album of theirs is, "Louder Than Bombs", the orange-covered double album. (Another group that had cool album covers). There are some great songs ~ excellent grooves and great guitar work throughout by Johnny Marr. Morrisey's lyrics, though, tend to be rather heavy handed over extended listening. But what do you expect from a professed vegetarian and celibate who doesn't drink or take drugs? I'd be mopey and gloomy, too. I mean, what would you have to look forward to?

On another note; I'm reading a very cool book that came out, I believe, sometime last year, called, "Flowers In The Dustbin". (The line is from the Sex Pistols song, "God Save The Queen"). It chronicals the history of Rock and Roll from it's beginnings in 1947, up to 1977 when Elvis died. The author, a former writer for Rolling Stone, among others, lists all the important events that shaped the music we know as Rock and Roll. The only two disappointments are that he seems to despise the Grateful Dead, and there is no mention whatsoever of Steely Dan. Other than that, it's a pretty informative and interesting look at the past.

Later,

Herm

justice rarely lives in the legal system

yesterday's custody trial involved a judge wanting me to settle for next to nothing so she wouldn't have to settle the case, case was continued (4th time) till October till my lawyer harped on Patrick's need for this resolved for his school issues and the judge emergency cancel two afternoons to hear the case in two weeks 6/12 and 6/14.

unfortunately that is right after San Diego and with the incredible expenses and more legal proceedings and the intensity I may unfortunately have to bag my San Diego trip ;-[

big ouch but my priorities have to go with my son

so I may try to make an Atlanta or Florida show
if anyone has any leads on good tickets that would probably sit better

damn, was really looking forward to meeting all of you and getting away

thanks Soldier, Blazer Rouge, Aja, Stevie and others for your sent i mints (mints are refreshing and and a pleasure to receive).

I'll respond to guestbook pleasantries in another post

loved the "lee gall sit you way shun" quote Stevie
as one does "sit" & "shun" and it certainly is "gall" ling
you got the worm lingo and double speak down cold there!

cheers and my mood is positive and my son Patrick's "sit you a shun" is firmly in God's faithful and loving hands

cheers

wormboy thomansky

Damn.

Howard - good. I was afraid you had got something at the back of your foot.

... do you remember Farbror Melker, Gina?

RUBYBaby - "Every Breath You Take It's Steely Dan In The Year Of The Cat" Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'll send it to you. Use water on the glue-side to avoid bub bub bub bub bub bub bubbles.

Hutch - good. I was afraid you had got something at the back of your foot.

YGK - "David: the wedding thing was a joke? Jeez, I had a bunch of progressive Russian musicians who could fill (mostly) the bill, and do it for $175, as long as we buy their vodka...
let me know."

Ha! Holy Moses, I had a bunch of Manhattan jazz musicians who could fill the bill for a couple of new livers as long as we buy their heroin.

Stockholm audi and out,

Clas Bildt

YGK - The check's in the mail, don't worry. You're doing a fine job with your own PR. All the right moves in that department. Your song files actually work and your output is promising from what I've heard. Whatchamacallit, "techno-punk"? If you're an artist and you have something to say, you're welcomed to let us know, in my book.

Chere - I see there's nothing wrong with those typing fingers. Keep the ballahbugs at bay, where they belong. What is it with the regulars here? All are afflicted in some way. Penko Power?

Boston Rag - Scared me shitless foe a while there. "The Clarks", that sounded like a country-inspired family affair but apparently they are appreciated for their live gigs in the North East and have their own website with guestbook and all. They start at six and their special guests are Steely Dan. Lenghty soundcheck or a chance to discover a new voice? I dunno.

slash chords?

The Guestbook Look

The surf was easy on the day I came to race
in this quiet corner in the space
I remember, a bunch of yankees all in blue
I found them just by chance with Yahoo

Now the regulars are gone except for two
the big Saint Al's been hard to reach
wake up darling, let's log off, there's a better place to be;
the web-page of the great 10cc

I know what happens
I read the book
I believe I got off the Guestbook hook

(I believe I just got the goodbye look)

Fmaj9 / B7+5 / Bbmaj7 6 / A7 / Dm9 / Dm7/G / etc etc

Getting ready in Oregon:
http://www.oregonlive.com/music/index.ssf?/music/00/05/al_61mlede26.frame

Clas: Woah, calm down there!

I think you misunderstand. My preferred name for the D/G type chords has ALWAYS been "slash chords". If you read my previous posts on this subject, I think you'll see that.

A few weeks back, someone else (sorry, forget who) started talking about "Donald Fagen's use of polychords". To clear up what he meant, I put in a post asking if his use of "polychord" was the same as my "slash chord".

To cut a long story short, the answer was yes, they are the same.
He said (paraphrasing) that in *theory*, the polychord means just what you said - a mix of two triads, so D/G would have notes D F# A G B D. This has always been my understanding of the word polychord. This D/G would be a little dense sounding ...!

So, in practice, he said his "polychord" meant use just the bass note of the second traid, so D/G is (as you and I know it) D F# A with a G in the bass. In other words "D slash G".

In my last post, I used both terms (slash and polychord) just in case there are others who prefer the term "polychord" and wouldn't understand "slash chord". I have always preferred "slash" because polychord still implies, for me at least, all notes from both triads.

Howard

Haig - I have guitar tablature for many Dan songs, including two from the new album, at:

http://www.ph.ed.ac.uk/~haw/music/tabfiles.html

I hope to add Jack of Speed before long.

Howard

steviedan and others: the essence of what you're saying I believe is true. I have 'gotten into trouble' for attempting to say the same thing in earlier posts, but, if you look at the music being released and pushed down our throats by the majors and many indies with major distribution, you will, more often than not (and there are exceptions) - assuming you have something that resembles an ear - be greatly disturbed.

I would bet that that if you compare a Top 20 from today, and a Top 20 from 20 years ago, you will find an ENORMOUS wealth of Real talent in the latter.

But that also brings me to another point. With the proliferation of all of the 'musicians' out there now, who can make their music so easily and back it up with their unique sophomoric attitudes, plus the ability to send music over the net, the plunging of recording costs, etc., there exists a HUGE 'talent pool' never before seen. The consolidation of the major labels and their micro marketing of the artists they do keep on their labels creates an atmosphere enormously frustrating to many talented independent musicians and indy bands.

The Result: The Independent Band/Musician is forced to be nearly a full self-production; literally forced to wear all the hats, when it comes to booking, recording, writing, performing, marketing, marketing, marketing, etc.....

So now we have an even greater ratio of artists:success stories. Frequently "New" artists at majors are given, rather, advanced close to $1 million/deal - money they need to pay back - and soon. They need to have a hit NOW or they'll be droppped. The labels will assume the loss (if any) but then drop the artist. Under that scenario, artist/career development becomes nil, and there is the incentive for aritsts is to have a 'hit now' - there is no 'future' development when working with 1 hit wonders. Both the artist and the label have the attitude of take the money and run....

Independent musicians are forced to write, record, perform, market, market, market, call radio, etc.....without the benefit of $, any real support from the label model......without the benefit of, as WB put it some time ago, "good old fashioned, paid by the label, marketing and promotion".

The Point: if you want to explore and find NEW music, YOU, avid listener, loyal fan, sophisticated consumer, YOU must to the research, YOU must help the band/artist continue to grow, YOU must vote for them with your $, hearts, minds, legs and voices. I realize I may sound self-serving, but there is a larger issue here: the "Complaining Listener" is a business model that the majors love - when faced with the mountain of choices available on mp3 and other less screened sites, the CL will default back to something they know and trust - a major label, video, concert, etc. - the work to be done to find someone new, unique and worthwhile may be too great.....unless you persevere.

[Assuming you have bought the entire Steely Dan Catalog, with all the jazz references researched and pursued], I encourage everyone to check out independent music sites, listen to mp3s, be your own A&R person, whatever you can, but help independent musicians be independent by your support and by offering your time where needed. Ask them what you can do. They'll appreciate it.....support talented independent artists and their new music with your voice, feet, hands and dollars.....

I seriously don't think that the Dan - if released and 'broken' today - would be able to make it - too sophisticated for todays Accounting/A&R ears, and they don't write to please the pop crossection. While the Boys are supremely talented and had the benefit of some fine A&R folks and associates over the years, I think mainly that "those days are gone forever.....". I hope I'm wrong.

I think we are witnessing the latest trend in concerts - pairing the Boys with a younger crowd - I think it's a logical step - the opening band gets an audience with ears and the Boys get the overflow of younger ears.....

eeeenuf.

ygk

St.Al: I was sounding a little ballahesque and alot like my parents, but my arguement actually extends into my generation as well. I believe that generally the musical dumbing of the general public at large has been going on, well since rock n roll began (hold the posts y'all, that's just a reference point). I don't hate all new music. You know that from my prior posts. There'll be even greater music long after we're all dirt, it's just that at this juncture in our culture, there are no Van Cliburns on Billboard like there were in the 60s. There are no Ellingtons. No Armstrongs. And alas, not even any Steely Dans. There is still good new music, just not as much and generally not as skilled. Why isn't it more so ? I still think it's the E word. But you're right, I was sweeping broadly with the brush of cynicism. Too harsh.

Chere: I'm here and hoping you will be better soon. Take care of that whack back yo.

Hello all! I am totally numb from meds, so I am able to write a bit to my beloveds on this here ol GB.

YoMAMA?: Who are you? What are You? What actually WAS your post about? I AM a JUJU Kin if that gives you any idea.

IO: The Smiths are cool. I like How Long is Tonight? I think that's the name of the song. The Smiths are pretty cool music, they kinda fall into the CURE catagory, to me anyway. So glad you had a BLAST in el ciudad de Mexico. You are truly a little ray of sunshine on this board sister! And I always got yo back girl. I think maybe you misunderstood, I am only going to the West Palm Beach show. I got my tix through an absolute ANGEL from this GB and one extra from the esteemed King "Q" for my nephew to really GET into the DAN! He is a lil' blessing in my life. LOVES me to death! He is my beau's nephew really, and 19 years old, but was hooked line and sinker after spending a few dinners at my crib listening to OF COURSE the DAN! I do hope though, that someday I get to meet you. I really mean that. Someday baby. Besos, mami, ReeRee (nickname for me for all my favourite folks in da world.)

Aja: Thanks so much for the advice, they have me taking really strong painkillers and a huge horsedose of Valium (muscle relaxer?) that totally wreck my stomach. I take some pretty strong shit for my weekly arterial migraines, but this stuff is hardcore. I go to the orthopedic on Monday 8:45 am 2nd patient in the day so they can immediatly put me in a long lying down position so I will not have to sit, cause I CAN't. I am HATING this shit. I am a very hyper and energetic in a good way sista and frightened of this whole back situation. Unless I am completey anesthetized I cannot function even to get to the bathroom. I LOVE to dance and will not miss the DAN. No WAY Jose. Right now? My legs, gluteous maximus, and back are in excrutiating pain till the meds wear off, then it gets unbearable. I am a real naturally based EVERYTHING kinda chick, I detox my blood and body after every migraine episode to purge my bod from that shit. Shaklee vitamins and protein shakes are the cure all IMHO. I started strength training a few weeks ago and that may have been what injured me. I dunno, I am at a total loss on this one. Been taking alot of JUJU baths and having my madrina (godmother in Santeria/Candomble') pray and annoint me with oils. The African spirits are WAY on my side, and they walk WITH me always. Because of this, I KNOW they will help me along in taking care of this "bump in my road" and guide me to the place I was at before this crap. What are NSAID's? One more thing to you, THANK you for bringing IO to us all.!!!!! A ray of pure sunshine and sunflower breath all at de same time she is. Mad props to you fer dat!

cara mia: Thank you for the advice. It is much appreciated. I AM a natural chick all de way. Hate pills and shit. I do partake in the rastacomb at times. I sure have been more so now since this accident than ever before. Thanks for caring and stuff. Really appreciate it girl! What are your thoughts on a chiropractor? I have never been to one, but I have heard they are good for back situations. Also, what is a disc problem? Please splain.

Gina: If you carefully read my posting from 5/29, you'll discover I am 3rd degree priestess in the Santeria/Candomble" religion. (Santeria is the Hispanic version and Candomble is the Brazilian version, my madrina (godmother) is from Brazil so I am initiated into the religion by way of Brazillian ceremony and study , but I study weekly with an elder-very old elder who is Cuban) right now in this stage of my priestesshood I am studying the herb and healing plants. The religion came with the slaves from west Africa and is widely practiced by about 65,000 folks in America alone. It is strong and powerful energy and totally earthbased. I guess to me what I felt you were describing in your posting , that you meditate. I do it three times a day. Have to, it's part of my daily devotions. I feel though, to me, meditation is "listening". Being very still and quiet and fasting (lots of that) in a pure state and closing my eyes and "listening". Works miracles for me anyway. Thanks for acknowledging my postings, you are soo soo welcome in your posting to holler at me and your writing style is great. Mass great karma on the GB. Stay and you will always be pleasantly surprised or lifted up or inspired etc.

georgio: "Are you like, black or something? What's up with the constant use of racial colloquialism?" Firstly check my 5/29 postings and even some archive postings if your'e THAT interested. No, I am not like black. But I AM something! Something else. I am a white girl on first sight, but my heart is of all colours. The majority of practitioneers in my religion are black or caramel coloured and a beautiful people, as is the religion. Would it matter if I was black or a different colour? Does my style of writing with many styles, in many postings, (I am a wealth of knowledge in many things)me and my NOT so constant (IMHO) useage of racial colloquialism really matter? I am a friendly, lively, lovely, positive person. A kindred soul and carry a happy heart and spread my karma and energy abroad and at home for all. Is my EXOTIC expression not to your liking? I am ME... Chere, I come here with my real home e mail address and my real name. I come to talk, to share, to agree, and disagree. To rejoice the many blessings of all things Steely Dannish, share and learn from the myriad of intellectual folks here. There are so many intellectual and lovely people here. Is it a crime? I am a white chick with dark auburn hair, green eyes, a pretty body and face, a full happy spiritually rich heart and soul. I consider and perhaps others as well myself a very sensitive and very kind person. I must say I was taken aback from your posting. A bit offended perhaps as well, but maybe I just misunderstood. Shit does happen , but then so does magic! If you like, you may e mail me at my home e mail address, or here publicly on the blessed GB. I definantly would greatly appreciate a response after all this. I am in bad pain but felt it necessary to respond to your curious question. I also kinda feel because if this I am deserving of a response. I hardly ever use the word deserving, but I guess I am a bit offended. Go back and read your question at the begining of my post to you here in this posting, I quoted your words. Pretend someone asked the same questions to you and how it sounds and makes YOU feel Georgio? I felt some dark karma attached to your inquiry. Not very nice.maybe though I AM misunderstanding YOU. Let's clear this little matter up brother.

Steviedan: I sure am missin you bro. I plan to take this resting time I am forced to surrender to lying in the bed to write to you old skool style on paper with a pen to the address on the envelope you sent me. How you doin bro? Missed you! Dat be most damn tru! peaceout-Ree

Q: Are you aware that the WPB show the opener is MACY fucking GRAY? Her song all over the VH1 IMHO sucks alot but I have the disc the rest is awesome!!! AND she is a groovy chick. Very Jamaraquai ish and with that scratchy lil voice reminiscent of the Queen.... Miss Billie Holiday. I feel our WPB show is a beautiful display of a miracle. What a show it will be. Thank you again. Can I write to you at the address on the letter you sent to me? Let me know. I don't own a Steely Dan T shirt but we must figure a way to find eachother, Brother King man "Q". I am still so jazzed from our phone conversation. THanks for taking that bit of time and extra step in your oh so busy schedule to give me some of your space chile' It was most appreciated as was the tic for my nephew. Can't wait for this show. It is truly one of my lifelong dreams come true. Blessings all over the place. Can't wait to meet you and the wife. Triple JOY this WPB gig is for Chere.

To All: I am "down" right now with this incident but anyone is welcome to e mail me propa like at my home e mail omzen@bellsouth.net It would be like get well cards to me. So give me a holler. Also, I ran across a friend who has a sizable vinyl collection of great old music we ALL love. The albums are mine for the picking and free, so anyone out there jonzing for an old record for the sake of having to display and play and whatever, they are in mint condition and there are about 500 to choose from. Any one interested is encouraged to let me know ASAP if you have a request. After all they ARE free. You can e mail me propa at my e mail listed above or post to me here.

My love blessings and instant karma just got you all. Feels like heaven is imagined to be. How about you? Talk to me folks.

A very injured and medicated JUJU chile'-chere

At least I can still smile and feel you all. Much love and respect, REE

Hello all! I am totally numb from meds, so I am able to write a bit to my beloveds on this here ol GB.

YoMAMA?: Who are you? What are You? What actually WAS your post about? I AM a JUJU Kin if that gives you any idea.

IO: The Smiths are cool. I like How Long is Tonight? I think that's the name of the song. The Smiths are pretty cool music, they kinda fall into the CURE catagory, to me anyway. So glad you had a BLAST in el ciudad de Mexico. You are truly a little ray of sunshine on this board sister! And I always got yo back girl. I think maybe you misunderstood, I am only going to the West Palm Beach show. I got my tix through an absolute ANGEL from this GB and one extra from the esteemed King "Q" for my nephew to really GET into the DAN! He is a lil' blessing in my life. LOVES me to death! He is my beau's nephew really, and 19 years old, but was hooked line and sinker after spending a few dinners at my crib listening to OF COURSE the DAN! I do hope though, that someday I get to meet you. I really mean that. Someday baby. Besos, mami, ReeRee (nickname for me for all my favourite folks in da world.)

Aja: Thanks so much for the advice, they have me taking really strong painkillers and a huge horsedose of Valium (muscle relaxer?) that totally wreck my stomach. I take some pretty strong shit for my weekly arterial migraines, but this stuff is hardcore. I go to the orthopedic on Monday 8:45 am 2nd patient in the day so they can immediatly put me in a long lying down position so I will not have to sit, cause I CAN't. I am HATING this shit. I am a very hyper and energetic in a good way sista and frightened of this whole back situation. Unless I am completey anesthetized I cannot function even to get to the bathroom. I LOVE to dance and will not miss the DAN. No WAY Jose. Right now? My legs, gluteous maximus, and back are in excrutiating pain till the meds wear off, then it gets unbearable. I am a real naturally based EVERYTHING kinda chick, I detox my blood and body after every migraine episode to purge my bod from that shit. Shaklee vitamins and protein shakes are the cure all IMHO. I started strength training a few weeks ago and that may have been what injured me. I dunno, I am at a total loss on this one. Been taking alot of JUJU baths and having my madrina (godmother in Santeria/Candomble') pray and annoint me with oils. The African spirits are WAY on my side, and they walk WITH me always. Because of this, I KNOW they will help me along in taking care of this "bump in my road" and guide me to the place I was at before this crap. What are NSAID's? One more thing to you, THANK you for bringing IO to us all.!!!!! A ray of pure sunshine and sunflower breath all at de same time she is. Mad props to you fer dat!

cara mia: Thank you for the advice. It is much appreciated. I AM a natural chick all de way. Hate pills and shit. I do partake in the rastacomb at times. I sure have been more so now since this accident than ever before. Thanks for caring and stuff. Really appreciate it girl! What are your thoughts on a chiropractor? I have never been to one, but I have heard they are good for back situations. Also, what is a disc problem? Please splain.

Gina: If you carefully read my posting from 5/29, you'll discover I am 3rd degree priestess in the Santeria/Candomble" religion. (Santeria is the Hispanic version and Candomble is the Brazilian version, my madrina (godmother) is from Brazil so I am initiated into the religion by way of Brazillian ceremony and study , but I study weekly with an elder-very old elder who is Cuban) right now in this stage of my priestesshood I am studying the herb and healing plants. The religion came with the slaves from west Africa and is widely practiced by about 65,000 folks in America alone. It is strong and powerful energy and totally earthbased. I guess to me what I felt you were describing in your posting , that you meditate. I do it three times a day. Have to, it's part of my daily devotions. I feel though, to me, meditation is "listening". Being very still and quiet and fasting (lots of that) in a pure state and closing my eyes and "listening". Works miracles for me anyway. Thanks for acknowledging my postings, you are soo soo welcome in your posting to holler at me and your writing style is great. Mass great karma on the GB. Stay and you will always be pleasantly surprised or lifted up or inspired etc.

georgio: "Are you like, black or something? What's up with the constant use of racial colloquialism?" Firstly check my 5/29 postings and even some archive postings if your'e THAT interested. No, I am not like black. But I AM something! Something else. I am a white girl on first sight, but my heart is of all colours. The majority of practitioneers in my religion are black or caramel coloured and a beautiful people, as is the religion. Would it matter if I was black or a different colour? Does my style of writing with many styles, in many postings, (I am a wealth of knowledge in many things)me and my NOT so constant (IMHO) useage of racial colloquialism really matter? I am a friendly, lively, lovely, positive person. A kindred soul and carry a happy heart and spread my karma and energy abroad and at home for all. Is my EXOTIC expression not to your liking? I am ME... Chere, I come here with my real home e mail address and my real name. I come to talk, to share, to agree, and disagree. To rejoice the many blessings of all things Steely Dannish, share and learn from the myriad of intellectual folks here. There are so many intellectual and lovely people here. Is it a crime? I am a white chick with dark auburn hair, green eyes, a pretty body and face, a full happy spiritually rich heart and soul. I consider and perhaps others as well myself a very sensitive and very kind person. I must say I was taken aback from your posting. A bit offended perhaps as well, but maybe I just misunderstood. Shit does happen , but then so does magic! If you like, you may e mail me at my home e mail address, or here publicly on the blessed GB. I definantly would greatly appreciate a response after all this. I am in bad pain but felt it necessary to respond to your curious question. I also kinda feel because if this I am deserving of a response. I hardly ever use the word deserving, but I guess I am a bit offended. Go back and read your question at the begining of my post to you here in this posting, I quoted your words. Pretend someone asked the same questions to you and how it sounds and makes YOU feel Georgio? I felt some dark karma attached to your inquiry. Not very nice.maybe though I AM misunderstanding YOU. Let's clear this little matter up brother.

Steviedan: I sure am missin you bro. I plan to take this resting time I am forced to surrender to lying in the bed to write to you old skool style on paper with a pen to the address on the envelope you sent me. How you doin bro? Missed you! Dat be most damn tru! peaceout-Ree

Q: Are you aware that the WPB show the opener is MACY fucking GRAY? Her song all over the VH1 IMHO sucks alot but I have the disc the rest is awesome!!! AND she is a groovy chick. Very Jamaraquai ish and with that scratchy lil voice reminiscent of the Queen.... Miss Billie Holiday. I feel our WPB show is a beautiful display of a miracle. What a show it will be. Thank you again. Can I write to you at the address on the letter you sent to me? Let me know. I don't own a Steely Dan T shirt but we must figure a way to find eachother, Brother King man "Q". I am still so jazzed from our phone conversation. THanks for taking that bit of time and extra step in your oh so busy schedule to give me some of your space chile' It was most appreciated as was the tic for my nephew. Can't wait for this show. It is truly one of my lifelong dreams come true. Blessings all over the place. Can't wait to meet you and the wife. Triple JOY this WPB gig is for Chere.

To All: I am "down" right now with this incident but anyone is welcome to e mail me propa like at my home e mail omzen@bellsouth.net It would be like get well cards to me. So give me a holler. Also, I ran across a friend who has a sizable vinyl collection of great old music we ALL love. The albums are mine for the picking and free, so anyone out there jonzing for an old record for the sake of having to display and play and whatever, they are in mint condition and there are about 500 to choose from. Any one interested is encouraged to let me know ASAP if you have a request. After all they ARE free. You can e mail me propa at my e mail listed above or post to me here.

My love blessings and instant karma just got you all. Feels like heaven is imagined to be. How about you? Talk to me folks.

A very injured and medicated JUJU chile'-chere

At least I can still smile and feel you all. Much love and respect, REE

Stevie -- A little extreme wouldn't you say? Wouldn't you say the reality falls somewhere in the middle of your rather sweeping statement(s)?

I've said it before and I'll say it again -- there is a ton of great new music out there. The fact is there have always been huge market for lightweight pop rock. Think of how popular Pat Boone was right smack in the middle of the birth of Rock and Roll. Go back through the billboard charts and you'll see that when Jimi Hendrix was pushing the top of the charts, so too was the Ballad of The Green Berets... I'm thinking Donna Summer was pretty popular right around the time Gaucho was in rotation... Steely Dan was never a very popular band during my early teenage years. Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Aerosmith reigned supreme.

THough I see the points you're actually making, my spin is it's the same old story -- old people not understanding young people. As we get older we all like to think we know better...

StAl

I must, really. Mr LaPage, with TOTAL respect to you and your intellegent GB musings, I must say that from my vantage point (indy CD store as I've blathered about before) America's youth, excepting the I.O.s and KDs, are asshole deep in Kid Rock, Eminem, and shallow shallow shallow ever deeper into shallowness. The artistic climate in terms of the biggest sellers is not where SD will ever be. As a niche, they can tour, record, whatever. Acts that sell MUCH less still have major label deals. I can't see the hundreds of Eminem or Pearl Jam fans that have drivin our sales over the last two weeks into record numbers EVER being converted to Dan or anything else worth a crusty turd. One word: Education. They ain't gettin' it and they ain't gonna GET IT. They don't respect OR understand excellence because they don't have any idea what it's supposed to be. They have a generation of parents chasing ever larger motor vehicles to fulfill fantasies of childhood they haven't finished with yet. It's really disturbing. The kids need DEPTH. They have no souls. No love. Abercrombie is not love. It's an unpaid human billboard. Steely Dan is not a trademark or image so what's it's worth to them. Don't get me wrong. There are PLENTY of great young people, just not nearly enough. I'm not sure they're really getting any SMARTER or just having more crap thrown at them. Definitely NOT enough Arts education. I actually walked up on a conversation of several teens/20somethings where they were trying to flesh out whether some band was COOL or not. "Who cares if they are COOL", I asked. "Are they any GOOD ?". They had to pause for the cause as reasonably smart individuals, they realized just how SHALLOW they sounded.

FYI - this in from WBWC in Cleveland:
===============

Greetings to the Fans and the Band known as Steely Dan!
I am emailing to the great SD site to make sure you all know about our
18 hour ("Hey, Nineteen" might not be bad either)
radio marathon at WBWC 88.3FM in Cleveland Ohio. Thursday, June 8th,
we'll feature the entire catalogue of SD, the solo work, The NY Soul
Revue, and anything else we can dig up! We'll probably play some of the
pre-Dan material as well.
For more info check out :

http://runninglate.freeservers.com/marathons/sd

hi all, back from an unforeseen trip extension. Yikes, gotta catch up AGAIN.

Credit Where Credit is Due Dept: I must give credit for the invocation of Jamaican slangology to Q. Mine was a mere bastard variant, gratefulp , but I'm right there with you guys on this international issue, mon. Uh oh, I feel the Geo-Dialectacle Patrol closing in.

BTW, gpurple, man you're not way off on Coltrane. You're way ON. That was one concise little paragraph/chronology. At this point, I'm so used to all periods of Trane that, like Ornette, none of it sounds too far out at all. It's just the soul of a man.

D. Lee (Roth, no, Stan): I LOVE Springtime. For me it's a tune of magnificent sentimental imagery. Futuristic nostalgia. A cool stand-alone concept that could have been done on any Dan effort, although integral to Kamakiriad's storyboard. Is that my father, mowin' the lawn ? No, that was ME being told by my father to mow the lawn. Hop in let's go.

Album Recommendation of Highest Order Dept.:
Do anything you must to get the new VitalTechTones II with Scott Henderson/Steve Smith (sounding his BEST ever) and my new nomination for President of the United States of the BASS: VICTOR WOOTEN. Incredible music.

Opening acts for other bands, OK. For Steely Dan ? Power Pop ? Appetizer ? Clark Bar ?????? MAIN COURSE LET's EAT DAMMIT !!

Cara: No arm twisting required. I am a procrastinator and haven't checked out the fest agenda yet. I'm not sure yet what mine will be surrounding the show. Right now I have to get though my brother's wedding this weekend ! I'll be attending with my musical cohort (the wife has already seen them, luvs 'em but this time will pass). At the very least, we'll hook up at the show. Thanx for the tug and we'll stay up on this matter. We are THERE.

Worm may be burrowing deep this week what with his Lee gall sit you way shun. I ain't no preacher or even religious and I don't play one on TV but maybe our CONCERNS and HUMAN THOUGHTS and EMOTIONs should touch on his worminess and OF COURSE.....chere in her suffering this week. Thanx also to our GB Medical Personel....God That's Frightening ! Somehow we're glad to know you're there.

Aja: Yep, I'll know you right off the bat! Will your special guy be there? My Magnificent Other will probably adore you, but I've already given him my silent permission. He can't help but admire beautiful girls. Why should he not?

Innocent One: I'm SO glad I get to meet you! I have lupus. I'm always cold. Once, when I lived in Redding and it was 120 in the evening, I took a walk wearing a sweat suit. I felt fine! The neighbors were astonished. Though I'll get warm when I dance, my jacket will be near me when it's not surrounding me...

I forgot Clark Gable. He's the cream of the crop!

These Clarks picked a fine name. They must be finer than frog hair.
I look forward to them like a tasty appetizer...

Watch, they won't be in San Diego.

rb

DJ Mitch, I love Gato! His music is fucking great! His mood is super and his chops are outstanding. I'm actualy planning on catchinb him when he does his west coast thing later this summer.
Anyone who hasn't had the chance, give his stuff a listen. You certainly won't regret it.

This is a promoters 11th hour decision to make the shows more appealing to a wider variety of music fans.
Steely Dan has got to start marketing to the younger generation (the bigtime numbers demographic)to continue to be able to make quality music and headline international tours. They may have had nothing to say about this decision to add this opening band. Afterall, the label still pays their checks and fronts the money for both recording and touring. It's probably a business decision made by Tommy Matolla and his breed in midtown Manhattan.
It's all about numbers in this world of mergers and acquisitions and the ever-shrinking slate of major record labels. Don't be mistaken, Steely Dan's twenty year hiatus has hurt their marketability.
They're not receiving the airplay they garnered with Aja and Gaucho. Remember, "Hey Nineteen" was a widely popular top 10 hit back in 1980.
I don't know what the answer is to this marketing situation but I do know it needs to be addressed for Steely Dan to remain in a position of shot-calling with the record moguls.

I'll see everyone at the Gorge,
Craig

Street Inspector Vinion heard 2VN tracks all across Grant Park

for the Chicago Gospel Fest sound check at the Patrillo Band

Shell.Vinion is a dead on for Frank Zappa. Same agnosticism,

same guitar noodling, same voice, same beard. Now the poor

fellow is infected by Steely. Interestingly, he doesn't pay

attention to the lyrics. Not yet at least.

Anybody just love Springtime from Kamakiriad?

Any deep mystical meanings?

How 'bout;

I'm draggin out some bad old gag / when you touch my

hand.

This I presume makes reference to a hand buzzer?

Doctor Evil, Tony Soprano, Billy Blythe? Anyone!?!?

Q: no clue....but they have a nice website.....

I/O; looks like many East Cost gigs.....

Dave in the FLAROOM - what do you mean - you're the featured guest at the Tampa party !! - I'll come at you shortly..............

The bargain has been struck : the boys "support" the label and the label "supports" their efforts/aspirations to "do more albums and touring in the future" - it's incredible that the music industry has fallen to this sorry state with all the boomers,GenX,Y ers, etc cashola flowing.

My daughter saw NSYNC with my wife recently and they had SIX pre-bands(read: dancin' fools troups) - the industry has it's minor league feeder system worked out indeed.......

I'm a little surprised Don and Walt went for this - are they known to have any affinity for this group ? (YGK?)

The party begins....................TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Q!

The Clarks are from Pittsburgh and have been along with Rusted Root the best of the local scene..... The buzz here is that they are ready to go to the next level, i hope so, they certainly have paid their dues....best song the Clark`s have made is called Cigarette.....What was the reason for the cancelation in Northeastern Pennsylvania? Gato Barbieri is a real Argentine,regardless of what the Smooth Jazz haters say

YGK- some MAJOR pull!! At all the shows are they supposed to come out??

WHAT?!?!? ok i just listened to the smiths and they are a pretty modern band, what the hell are they doing opening up for steely dan. I thought that they would have a band at least a little similiar!!!

chere-get yourself some NSAID's and muscle relaxants-and a good orthopedist. I just got back from the doc and he said my sciatica is just the nerve being aggravated from a torn glute (yes, I manage to hurt myself in the weirdest places-don't ask!) but is not disc related so I can dance the night away on June 9th!

cara mia-thanks to Q's generosity, I will be joining you all in Irvine! Can't wait! Thanks again, Q!

I'm going for bare midriff for the show. I'm not tall or beautiful, and can't sing a note, but I can do bare midriff with the best of 'em. (besides, I've found that it's better to be beautiful to one special person than to the whole world, anyway)

ruby baby-we're probably all not quite as flirtatious in person as we are on this board-that's the fun of cyber-identities. I think you should still dress the part-it's you and the beau on an out-of-town weekend-go all out! I have the feeling we'll have no problem recognizing each other.

Aja

Looks like the Clarks are starting about 2 hours BEFORE the boys are due to come out....Power pot, er pop and the Dan.....hmmmmmmm......some promoter has some pull.....

ygk

Indeed, the tour dates coincide on Pollstar.com.

Miz Ducky - Clarks Web site www.clarksonline.com

They are on Razor & Tie Records. I figured they would at
least be on Giant if they were tagging along for the month of
July. I checked out some sound clips - they sound power poppish.
I don't get it. They must have some connections to get this gig.

See you in Boston Miz Ducky!!!

Mark

Hey, listen. Amen! Anyone kin jive jive, Ebony o' ebonics who has some doodad an' some internet connecshun. If yo' ass go in da house, here, u fixin' 2 be jivin'in no time at all.

http://members.aol.com/tazmo24/jive.html

O' course, dair be still no guarantee dat pale folks will appaih' diesel while cooptin' yet anotha' Ebony culture creashun.

Yo' ass be on yo' own dair, 'espense.

http://jiveon.com/411.html

Times are hard and I was afraid to pay the fee but I was on the horn to ticketmaster and I need see the comparison of The George to the `96 gig which was Vancouver`s concert of the year taking place in center field of our minor league baseball stadium.This time,if they don`t catch me at the border, I`m taking little red the acura it`s nice inside.I hope to lead the charge and savour the day with other Pacific Northwest Danfans.I`ll check if there is gas in the car,yes there`s gas in the car.The sounds on the highway will be Don&Walt,new Los Lobos,Carlos and at times noisefree.The weekend will turnout like I planned if it doesn`t I`ll decline to walk the line.I`ll sell my house in town and move closer to Asia to seek Bodhisattva.

Mark/BostonRag -- could you post the URL for that "Clarks" entity's website? Inquiring minds, and all that ...

/the Mam'zelle

Hello Everyone!!!

Miz Ducky-- Thanks for your suggestion! I really appreciate it! I have a feeling that I know what I'm going to wear. My mom was the one who was worried about lookin' so outrageous! I have an outfit that is plenty outrageous. Yes hangovers do suck! I'm so young to know, but it was half lack of sleep and half the alcohol! But anyway, thanks for your help!

Chere-- oh you know this innocent one partied HARD! Well we were really close to the beach so I went to get a tan and I jet skied and went on my uncle's boat a lot. I tried to wake board but it just was NOT happening! It was to hard. Then on Sunday night I went to the Rock-o-dile and PARTIED! Muchos hombres guapos!! So haha! Um that was pretty much it in a nutshell. That’s cool about the dirt! It's a cool thing that you do!! Well babe, thanks for asking about my trip! That was cool of you. Only 11 more days! Can't wait to meet ya!!

THE COUNT DOWN BEGINS TOMMOROW FOR 10 DAYS UNTILL THE CONCERT!!!!!!

Georgio-- EXCUSE ME!! That was totally rude what you said the Chere! She is a very cool person and she can speak however she wants! If you don't like it, don't read her posts! She remembers the importance of race and celebrates them! Sorry if I am taking this wrong but Chere is a kick ass person! So back off!!!

Cara Mia- Oh don't even! You will look great! I will probably be wearing pants so don't worry about it! I'm so excited! Only 11 more days! I can't wait to meet you too! EVERYONE!!!!!! I'm so excited!!

Ruby baby-- I was thinking about that myself, AJA, you should have us wear nametags of our aliases on the GB! I'm glad that we all get to meet! OH this is so exciting! It is going to be June so you'll probably be wearing the red jacket later on!! It's kinda warm here in San Diego.

Gina-- Well thank you! I am actually 15, but mature for my age, or so I'm told. But I'm glad to make you feel youthful! But I'm positive that you are not old! I hang out with my mom because she's not old and she's cool! I don't care about age at all!!! Age is wisdom! Don't ever be ashamed and don't ever thing that you are not acting your age, guys never do!! So everyone always remember that you are not old! You have just lived longer then some people, you also have more knowledge and THANK YOU TO EVERYONE, for passing it on to me!! 

Negative Girl-- HUH? Steely Dan T-shirts? Are we supposed to get them or what…??

...Yes i'm going insane, waiting for Steely Dan's a pain...

I.O.

StAl (yup, we're everywhere), stevie and Blazer - Thanks for all the reassuring words. I do feel better now and will sail into the Trifecta with only good thoughts. Though, stevie, a rastacone will make it a sure bet. Thanks for reminding me. It's a given.

Also, stevie, your reference to Coltrane made me remember a WOH thought I had a while back. Trane kicked H (Kid Clean), spent the rest of his career trying to punch through to the cosmic wow (alienating a lot of folks along the way), almost got there, then died way too young. His music often was all about enduring the tyranny of the disallowed (Alabama, etc.). He was criticized for not swinging but, really, he was swininging so hard, he burned. Other more obvious references are the "waves of sound" style and C. Potter's solo which is certainly Cotrane-esque. W likes Trane and I've always thought this was a W tune. But, maybe I'm way off. . . .

"Look what we've found in the park,

in the dark.

We will take him home,

we will call him Clark."

Then there's Clark Kent

and Clark Bar

Those are the only Clarks I know. But I trust WB & DF...

rb

I just was on the Pollstar web site and I noticed there was a band called "The Clarks" playing at the Tweeter Center on July 15. My brain immediately did a "WHAT THE F***??? WARNING! WARNING! A CONFLICT WITH STEELY DAN GIG!!!" Then I found The Clarks wbsite and they are playing with Steely Dan on about 10 North American gigs! (There web site laughingly says that Steely Dan are their guests.) The web site says they
have 4 albums out. Damn if I've ever heard of them. Anybody???

My cynical thoughts on opening acts:

Opening Acts = Less Time For The Main Attraction

Mark in Boston

I have to concur with -Girl. I do encounter a good number of people whom only realize the surface sheen of Steely Dan and not
their depths underneath; as such, when I mention Steely Dan I've had comments like, "oh, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, REO Speedwagon and Styx are touring also, you know..why don't you see them too.Didn't SD do Rikki Don't lose that number?" The oldies thing. Unfortunately, have seen some of the media look at it the same way.

There is a chunk of people --casual listeners--who put them among 70s has beens rather than alongside other artists like Dylan, Lou Reed, Joni Mitchell whose work is classic and transcendent of the time when they were popular.

They are missing 90% of it.

Just 26 hours until I head for the Gorge!

jj

Hi everyone!

haven't been here for a while, but was reminded of y'all as i was walking by Gramercy park on sunday. I was thinking that Janie must be pretty loaded if she's the "wonderwaif of Gramercy Park." For you non-New Yorkers out there, here's why: that's a pretty swank neighborhood and only residents on the park and in the immediate surrounding blocks can have access to the park. (and of course, they pay an exorbitant fee for a key to the gate.) it's the only private park in NY...

Hmmm... didn't really understand all the fuss about the backup singer. It seems like back up singers in any band have the job because of great timing and connections & if they can sing too, then that's a bonus. Just like Linda McCartney said when people complained that she wasn't the best person for her job: "yeah, just about anyone could do what i'm doing... but I'M doing it..." I saw the VH1 show but don't really remember much about the backup singers, honestly....

I can't remember which one of you was complaining about your wife's griping about your SD enthusiasm... My husband is the same. he just doesn't get it! He thinks they're just 'cheesy 70s crap' AAAARRGH!!

Wish i could go.... wanted to go on July 8th, but alas, can't get tix that i can afford (ie: can't get cheap tix that i can justify to the hubby!)
have fun y'all - you got your "Steely Dan T-Shirts?"
NG

Has anyone heard Cornelius' new CD??

How is it??

Haven't been able to read or post for about two days, sure feels good to see some familiar names back and also some new ones..
Endre, another Scandinavian guest: WELCOME, I'm also rather new around here and already hooked to this hospitality!
Hello Hutch, although you don't post yourself that often nowadays, it's nice to know you're watching over us ..like Chet Baker used to ask for in a song..thank you!
Innocent One, I guess you're in between 20 and 25 years or maybe even younger, wish I could have that same enthusiasm again. While reading your posting some of your youthful sparks rub off on me, so in a way you're a reminder of how it CAN be et voila, it is, again, so thank you as well!!
Chere, need not say that after the B-incident I was a bit worried you felt you had to take some time out and cool off somewhere ..hope your body & soul will find their way into a balance again and I understand you're into something spiritual?
I have to listen to my own advice to take ten minutes a day and totally shut off for the world around me, to be just me and me alone ..no images, no words, no feelings from others, no impressions, no speculations, no consequences, no thoughts..nothing.
Get control of things and leave them be at the same time, if even for ten minutes a day and it can be so enlightening..
Now I will simply have to do it!! Maybe it works for you as well..
I read something about a Scandanavian tour or maybe even Belgium, Holland.. I'm really considering to allow myself to go there ..I know it will be weird to see others write about the SD concerts in this GB (coming up soon) and I think I would like to experience it myself ..Scandinavia, Belgium's just a stone's throw away, in fact. Hm. Yes. I'll keep it in mind.
Been asking for mp3 at work and whatever's necessary will be installed, so I hope very soon I'm also able to download stuff I read about..I hate to be just curious and have to live without knowing! Or listening for that matter.
Aja, you're right, the lines are busy again, this really is a nice place to be.
cara mia, I have some friends living in Nijmegen, they went there and stayed after university, a nice town..enough going on there..

Hm. Now we'll just have to wait for Worm ...you know what they say, no news is good news?!
Fellow GB-ers, this is a very hectic week with too much social activities related to work. I'm not very good at that when it's too frequent after my taste and I need lots of time to recuperate afterwards. Strange, maybe. I enjoy being here, knowing I have still got to get myself through wednesday, thursday and friday.
With very little time to step back from the crowd and the world.
Well. But there's also something to look forward to, there always is.
For now, goodnight to y'all (22.15 P.M.)
Gina

Yes, fellow engorgers, it will be a warm and wonderful weekend ahead. I can already feel the warm sun and the hot Dan!

I have 4 additional GA/lawn tix for the event, face value ($35). This is the first wing ding of the next thousand and as any major dude would tell you, you'll be sorry if you miss this one.

I live in Seattle and can meet to exchange at the Gorge, Sea/Tac or? I will be at the Gorge early Sat. aboard the Technicolor Motorhome.

Write me at onemorechimp@hotmail.com.

Sorry, fezes not included.

Mark

Have a great time, Team Gorge. I am happy for you, sad for me...

CDnow has some MP3s of Garden Party's "No Static At All" CD posted.

I like 'em just fine. Glad I ordered the CD, I'm sure it'll disappear in a heartbeat...

Clas,

I messed up. What I meant to say about the bumper sticker was:

"EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE IT'S STEELY DAN
in the year of the cat"

hej do!

aja, peg, tom, cara mia, etc: Honeys, I will be there yes I'll be there! All I know is that I'm wearing a red leather jacket. What else has yet to be decided. While I, myself, am rather modest; the rubster is more flamboyant. Oh, how she'd love to pick the clothes! How will I know all of you?

StAl: I wish I could party with you & Hoops at the Gorge more than anything else. On that day, I'll be with y'all in spirit, but you won't even miss me you rascals! (Whoever dreamed up this idea that work & family come first? I'd like to give them a swift kick in the rear!) I'd even enjoy a non-party party with your lovely, smarter half. She must be extra wonderful if she's yours!
It's tough that you must share in the prenatal sacrifices, but it sounds like you're doing A-OK!

Clas: Is the bumper sticker contest over? It went so fast!
I wanted one that said,
"Steely Dan In The Year Of The Kat"

rb

85F at the Gorge on Saturday - get out of town: 53F for a low - what great weather!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.weather.com/weather/us/zips/98824.html

Guess I'll have to add shorts to my list of minimal clothes I'm flying with - I'm not even going to check a bag. Hard to believe I'll be in Seattle this Friday - I'll try to make the party Friday night and the rendevous at the gas station Saturday morning. I rented a Ford Winstar - I figured the Expedition was overkill. Looking forward to seeing some of you there.

Cara: Sorry married, and ADD prone esp when the wife is talking.

Maybe it is Big Fan who is attending too many shows for his own good?

Huge or Big? Whichevah...the resume offer still stands

Countdown to ecstacy...you Gorge(ous) folks have a fantastic time together!

Clas--Thanks for the bumpersticker prize. I will send you my address pronto and appreciate your offer to us.

Oleander--I owe you an email. Are you doing both nights in Atlanta? Where shall we party?

Aja and I.O.--dress code for SDiego: short and sweet, that is, if I can get my thigh circumference reduced by about 5 inches...ugh.

Q--your generosity is something. I vote Aja gets the Irvine ticket, and I hope to meet you at the tailgaiters or elsewhere.

Chere--go with traditional cures...sounds like a disc problem.
I hope your orthopod has a quick fix for you.

Steviedan--how about an arm twist for Raleigh? Would love to continue the party with you all after my Hotlanta hangover subsides.

Gina--I lived in Nijmegen a few years back. Maybe I will come back if the Dan hits Scandinavia (Clas will host the big party???) and the Benelux regions. Helig and lekker(sp)!

Big Fan--If you are a wealthy, single, heterosexual, attention deficit disordered-free, TALL and over 35 fellow, I have a photo and resume... ;-)

excited for all hooterie-bound fans,
cara mia

David: the wedding thing was a joke? Jeez, I had a bunch of progressive Russian musicians who could fill (mostly) the bill, and do it for $175, as long as we buy their vodka......
let me know

ygk

Disclaimer- The Wedding thing was a joke.
Edd Cote-I can't find your E-mail address...please send to mine.
Q- Still waiting to hear from you on Tampa Fest.
Alta , Ole-I never seem to hear or see you...Hello?
St Al,Hoops,Pete Fogel- You guys are unbelievable. The Latest info ,Pics and Links that we get from you are second to none for a Dan Fan...thank you.
David

Hi everyone.....does anyone know if there's a site out there with guitar tablature for the songs on the new CD.
The sites out there now only have the older stuff....thanx

gratefulpurple - Not to worry. This band should be getting tight by now. Stretch out they could on WOH. They will (and already did)get bored of playing some numbers. Remember, this same outfit can produce quality renditions of Gaslighting Abbie, Bad Sneakers, Pretzel Logic, What a Shame about me and others that were not played in Japan. There seems to be a lottery going to determine which girl is gonna do the dirty work every night. The old songs are, judging from what I heard, reworked. It's a long summer and a considerable catalog to toy with.

St-Al - Are you seasick or cynical? Cheer up! It's party time!

Chere- Are you like, black or something? What's up with the constant use of racial colloquialism?

Tix Available for Monday, July 3rd at Jones Beach. These are nice seats towards the center. SEC 7L - Row D..that's 4 rows back from the Orch. section. Face value = $170 /pair.

Perhaps a swap for July 8th at Jones Beach?

I will also post these on the ticket exchange board..

Chere, there you are. Doin' awright ? I should have known, I sold the Wayne Shorter JUJU album today and WHAT an album THAT is.

gratefulpurple you will be dazed, glazed, & amazed. The 90s touring outfits have always been well-oiled musical units, highly arranged, but not lacking in groove intensity. Improvizationally, this ain't like Phish or Coltrane where they go for extended "jams", but the solo spaces are well filled and musicianship runs rampant. Every show I've seen has produced that certain glee or epiphany you get from music on a higher level. Like a rasta cone milestone cowboy.

Hello all an happy Memorial Day! I do hope everyone is still safe and raring to go, with all these great shows, er Uh I mean MIRACLES that D&W are speading all over creation. Blessed indeed we all are. I have missed you all and the beautiful energy of the GB.

Steviedan: I am a woman of my word and I told YOU I'd NEVER split the GB, No ser ee not Chere. One reason why?....
I've got High John in my pocket
Got mud on my shoes
Walked all the way from Mississippi
Just to spread the news
Don't care for idle conversation
I'm not your girl about town
But when it comes to making music
I run the voodoo down
And here in this quiet place i own
worlds are born.
The night of my conception
the stars were fixed
conjure woman told my mother
she's gonna turn and twist
don't hav to worry bout her learnin'
she's gonna get around
and when it comes to traveling miles
She'll run the voodoo down
here in this quiet place we own
we're reborn
destiny is my deliverence
I walk this road alone
I take my pleasure in remembering
i'm just a rolling stone
and I don't mind some company
if you want to stay around
but when it comes to my loving
I run the voodoo down
And here in this quiet place Iown
worlds are born

-music by Miles Davis (happy belated Birthday brother Miles)
lyrics by Cassandra Wilson
Another reason why? I was born again my friend
when I signed in stranger.............

Thank you sooo much for just everything brother. Cassandra and our late night simultaneous postings have definantly soothed my soul. I really must come in at chat time one Sunday and see who's there. Really Really wanna do dat!

Gina: How very very sweet when you wondered where I was and felt my absence as a portion of the radio silence on the GB. I am here always here in spirit.Glad to see you have become quite a new regular GBer. 'Tis a great great thing.

IO: How was Mexico? I wuld like for you to gather some dirt from mexico next time you should venture there and sed it to me for my earth pot. I already have dirt from Africa, Italy, NC,Costa Rica, Nassau Bahamas,jamaica,Home Florida,and a bit too from my ancestors graves. having an earthpot helps to give you a real foundation to plant your roots and to keep mi espiritus muy contento. I provide the LOVE and tthey provide the growth and grounding essence. para mi es muy contento tambien. Now I wanna hear about every thing You did baby. Besos muchas, chere

Q: Thank you soo much, I had such fun talking with you on the phone, I WILL write to you, and I can't wait to meet you and your beloved at da show. Got your letter today. many Many thanks brother. Love Ya!

Souooutrageous: If your'e listening watching observing, the world here under the banyan tree awaits your return and all it's majestic glory. te strano mucho papi. Dat me most true! I'll dim all the lights in the rainbow room, prepare you a basket of juju surprise (a sweet indeed surprise) and even more. Come back return. No matter where you are, I will always be with you, doesn't matter what you do boy, oooo boy that's true. Get out your badfinger and put on your dancin shoes, I feel one of my BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM's commin on......

Mike:Thanks for feeling my pain from my posting to Ballah. His wasting of space just plain pissed me off.

Special hello's to Ducky, Ole, blazer, wormy dayglow freakazoid that is Tom just NOURISHING de topsoil and my sexual fantasies, and anyone I may have forgotten.

Now about me and the biggest reason WHY I have not been around... I have had a couple of episodes in the past year with my lower back. This time it was my lower back and legs, The sciatica they called it. I have to use a cane to walk and get to where I am going right now. I happen to be a mover AND a shaker so I am being wretchedly impossible about it. I hope that I will get into the orthopedic doc this week for sure. I am in agony and doped up like nobody's bussiness from this problem. Been flat on my back for days. HATING it!! I have enough shit with my hormones, migraines (arterial migraines real fucking painful) and now this crap. Any instant karmas from my fellow kinfolk here would be most appreciated right now. Can't sit or lie flat, have to be at an angle and pillow under the knee and totally medicated. I prefer hands down the natural approach to everything, so I went and saw my madrina (godmother in Santeria/Candomble) and recieved hardcore cleansing and blessing with oils waters and prayers. Smellin' just like a flower in the balmy night air. Also learned that because the Orishas that walk with me since my initiation four months ago are many. One of them is OYA, Godess of rainbows, protector of ancestors and angels, our lady of candleria, and the only warrior goddess in the bunch. Because OYA walks with me naturally, my next and final step in this caste of santeria/candomble is to become a santera. It is the highest a woman can go. And me beng a white woman and young makes all my hard work even more worthy of all that I posses now in my life, and what I WILL inthe future. I am feeing mighty proud of that. Also unlike ANY other initiate to go that high in the caste traditionally to the bone, (meaning straight up African Yoruba, Brazilian and Cuban I would ordinarily have to shave off my beautiful long auburn hair and have 16 cuts put into my scalp with herbs pressed into them. No extra step for me. I am blessed indeed. This damn back shit WILL be Gone and dismissed. Somehow some way. I miss you all and will try to get up enough anesthitation to post again. Glad I have been missed. Much love and karma to you all. Peace and blessing, resident JUJU Chile' chere

Just a few more days and the bus is on it's way...

Gratefulpurple: To expect -- yes. To desire -- no. Same old story my deadhead(?) friend, but this band doesn't "stretch out" like you and I are used to seeing bands "stretch out." Don't fret, you're certainly in for a fantastic show.

Miz Ducky -- Are you making a rather big assumption on the weather? Though I just heard a high pressure system should be moving in later in the week, it could be cold enough to make your nipples stand at attention Saturday night...

Me and the smarter half just returned from a short 3 night cruise. I don't know about you people but after about 1 night on the damn thing I wanted OFF that ship. Talk about playing to middle America. Another example of the Wonder Bread principal at play. Hear is an example. They had this calypso band that played the Macarena and that fucking Ricky Martin tune. Or how about this -- shipboard entertainment night one -- The "Voice" of Happy Days (his name escapes me for obvious reasons). Night 2 The "Almost" Village People (The Indian and maybe the construction dude I think). And no, I didn't go... Interesting sociological experiment. Oh, and because Jami is pregnant I had the opportunity to party with myself. The only thing I could think of that could be worse would be one of those Club-Med vacations were some blond bimbo organizes your daily activities. Don't get me wrong. Royal Caribbean has nice ships and the views were awesome, but 1/2 a bottle of Crown Royal and a couple of Cubans later and I'm still in need of a party.

StAl

Just a thought on the eve of the tour I've been waiting 20 years to see. This band has been together, rehearsing and playing different gigs in different settings for over six months. They don't need to play the same tunes in the same setlists in the same way night after night. I mean, I'll be happy with anything -- I've been waiting for this for 20 years. But the potential is there for greatness. Let the players stretch out and take off. If WOH or TvN go 20 minutes or more, let it happen. Any decent band, like the Eagles maybe, can do a formulaic show, every night making the songs sound just like the record on the phonograph. This band can do a lot more. Am I wrong to expect it?

Hi, Innocent One--

Yeah, it's real quiet right now in GB Land. Makes me suspect you're not the only one who might be entertaining the sentiment that hangovers suck. :-)

We had a nice on-line chat last night--lotsa familiar names and a few new ones (at least to me), mainly sharing our buzz over the upcoming Visitation.

As to costume suggestions for the Sandy Eggo Hooterie: I figure you can't go wrong with a little midriff display if you're up for that. Or anything slinky or form-fitting. Take a few cues from Calhoun, Cave, and Leonhart--they know how to swing it. :-)

Me, I've come to the realization that the Gorge is in the middle of the frikkin' desert, so my wardrobe is gonna have to observe the Keep It Simple Stupid dictum--nothing that won't be ruined by sweat or sunscreen. Oh well--at least I have a killer straw sunhat.

/the Mam'zelle
ever the fashion plate (and sometimes the blue plate)

ANYONE- whats been going on latley? Someone wanna fill me in...??

i have a question, on Katy lied there is a song called Throw back the little ones, is that supposed to be a joke song, like not a serious one. I like the song a lot but it's a little silly right?? Opinions! Lemme know!!

I.O.

ANYONE- whats been going on latley? Someone wanna fill me in...??

i have a question, on Katy lied there is a song called Throw back the little ones, is that supposed to be a joke song, like not a serious one. I like the song a lot but it's a little silly right?? Opinions! Lemme know!!

I.O.

Hi everyone!! Did you all miss me?? I just got back from Mexico. I'm feeling it right now!! I'm very tired from everything. Um, anyways, i really missed posting. As of tommorow the count down begins!!!! 10 more days to Steely! I can't wait to meet all the people from the guest book too. My mom was so cute because she was like oh NO! there is a theme and she's like how am I going to look so outrageous!! Haha! So looking for some ideas, To ANYONE who is going to the San Diego Hooterie, i need Ideas!! Well i'm very tired and not feeling so well! Talk to you all later! Glad to be back!! :)

The Charmer- That list was very cute!! See ya soon!!

2000 enGORGEment checklist -

Well, I think I have everything ready....did I miss anything?

1) Camping gear: Tent, sleeping bag, flashlight, toolkit, knife,fork and spoon, ect.

2) Climate-friendly clothes: Shorts, jeans, t-shirts, rain gear, comfortable shoes, wide-brimmed straw hat, sunglasses,
unmentionables, ect.

3) CD & Tape player.

4) Tunes: Two or three tapes of Live Steely Dan culled from
various sources. Another tape of Steely rarities, in case I
run into someone who hasn't heard 'em yet. Another couple
of tapes of personal traveling tunes. CD's: Citizen, Nightfly,Kama,11ToW, Rock 'n soul review, 2VN, plus Macy Gray, the new Joe Jackson, Lit, Kim Richey, Dr. John, Foo Fighters, and any others I can slip in the bag at the last minute.

5) A few presents for my motorhome travelling companions.

6) Papers.

7) A notepad and pens, to trade E-Mail addresses with all the
new freinds I'll meet.

8) Sunscreen, soap, deoderant, toothbrush, toothpaste, brush, ect.

9) A few more of those Steely Dan Promotional postcards, in case
I missed a few folks.

10) 4 disposeable cameras.

11) A carton of smokes.

12) The insert to the Citizen box set, to be autographed by our
Heroes, if I get lucky enough.

13) Insane amounts of traveler's Cheques for the merchandise stand.

Any other suggestions?

-The Charmer
sizzling like an isotope

Oh my god. This is all a plot to make me sign up for cable for the first time in my life, isn't it?

Thank you, Q, for doing that little bit of research on HBO in Lost Wages. And what's all this about a "rasta cone," maaaan? Damn, we really must find a way someday to partay together!

/The Mam'zelle
(Six days and counting! Holy shit, Batman!)

....."you're late, whiny and out of context (AGAIN!)......you definitely are a cheap drummer"....

(unless you're A&R at IMN-TV:InVision)

and THEN, what would you be doin chasin some skinny white ass?

Forgot to add that Im E-Z..... "cheap & E-Z." but only to Carolyn. Everyone else pays Top union scale.......

.....If you only knew what kind of drummer I truly am.....

or think I am........

Steely Dan HBO Special? This is not only an amphibious assault on the Hall Of Fame. It's a full-blown media blitzkrieg to take over the world. What's next, a pay-per-view special "Live at the Gorge"?

Endre - www.steelydan.com is the place to go for information on VHS tapes, etc.
Check out this page...
http://www.steelydan.com/2vnbuy.html

Nice to have you here. We already have Gina from The Netherlands and Clas and Lars from Sweden. So the Scandinavian presence is ever-growing! (Okay, I guess The Netherlands is not technically part of Scandinavia).
Anyway.... hello!

Hutch

re: David In The Florida Room

Geez, I only got requests for such musical milestones as "Mony Mony" or "Celebration" or, if the crowd was adventurous, "White Wedding". (I'll admit it was fun to bring in the sampled choir on the keys...)

Or worse, a request to let little Jenny, the bride's 11 year old niece, sing "I Will Always Love You"...

Brrrr...

Spoke w/ HBO Promotions in LA and they confirmed Vegas.

Actually I just hope they stay out of the damned way!

Sony Studios was a dream, but you just can't let your hair down when you've got cameras flying all around you.
Wouldn't want mom to see me with tha fat rasta cone in my mouth!

Q

Altamira --- Tickets?! Where are my tickets? I have the exact same problem. I ordered them online two weeks ago. It states on the Ticketmaster page that it will take two weeks to deliver via UPS. I was just thinking about calling them, too.

I had no choice but Lawn tickets --- bummer!!!!!

HI

It's great to hear new SD-music again. They are the best, and the old records are played very ofte, both by me and my wife.

By the way: ia it possible to get VHS-tapes of shows, concerts etc?

Have a nice day!

Endre

Anyone who's concerned about steely dan's flippant attitude towards interviews should divert their eyes immediately before I nibble this flea off my dick.

The Steely Damned are playing right now (probably doing 2nd A) and I'm not there!!!! I'm sidelined with an aggravated sciatic nerve-I'm way too young for this sort of injury. But I'm feeling contented staying home; something about my beau calling me...I must have my head examined.

Dr. Mu-wish you were in the audience tonight so you could hear it live! Don and Walt, you are cordially invited to the San Diego after party so you can hear how great 2nd A sounds-and maybe give it a shot yourselves!

Gina-don't worry about silence here. It really means nothing. And with this medium you can say something, forget about it, then someone will comment on it several weeks later and you get freaked out because you won't know where they got that information on you. It's kinda fun. Just express yourself and set it free.

In less than two weeks the summer will kick off with Steely Dan! The first reports from the Gorge will be coming in next week at this time! Woohoo, life is good right now.

Aja

OH Hoops! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze say it ain't so!

U ain't down wit da Brown Dirt Cowboy, is U????????????? Huh?

Ah guess they ain't much else in chicaga fer a monkee woman ta do?

ten, nine, eight, seh...ven, six, five four, three, two, one.
countdown to the change in life that's gonna come.

TEN, NINE, EIGHT, SEH...VEN, SIX, FIVE, FOUR, THREE, TWO, ONE!
COUNTDOWN TO THE CHANGE IN LIFE THAT'S GONNA COME!

6 days left to gorge 2000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stevie Dan - Thanks for your kind words. Alas, I am having to devote my energies to other things these days, primarily a massive search for a new job, so I don't have much time to hang out on the GB, but I do miss you all and I'll check in when I can. Regarding Hoops and the possible link to Elton John; I was a major EJ fan back when I was in high school in the mid-70's and I saw him in concert twice, but he really seems to have taken a nosedive in artistic quality since then. Oh well, his old tunes still sound good.

Stevie Pete - Welcome! It's good to have yet another person from this part of the country on this forum.

BTW, I ordered my ticket to the Columbia, Maryland, show on April 10 and haven't received it yet - I didn't think the mail would be quite so slow - maybe I should give Ticketmaster a call. I ordered the Mannassas, Virginia, ticket as will-call - I think I should have done that with the Columbia ticket as well; but I know that will-call can get messed up too and I wanted to make sure I saw at least one of the shows.

Blazer, unbelievable as it seems, I think that Hoops ALSO compiles/edits an Elton digest as well. When I first subscribed to the digest I was inadvertently put on the Elton list. The digest is great and EJ at his best is awesome, but if you contact the man he will get you skraight. You must admire the utter dedication. Salute to Hoops !

Great Chat in the Chat Room tonight guys & girls!

so much fun chatting real time with all the regulars and nice to meet some new folks too....time to turn in, just wanted to thank you all for some interesting conversation!

MC

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Blessed Memorial weekend, hello, one and all! Especially, sooutrageous.

I think the interpretation of Negative Girl as drug-use/overdose is a little far-fetched.

The Negative Girl is obviously playing him, milking him, using him, the character represented by Donald's voice, to the hilt.

Negative -- if there is a hint of negative in film --- this girl has a lot of pictures taken of her

Is there redemption? Well, the last verse was: "If that is what it was, then how do you explain?!" He is still trying to justify himself that it's okay to hang'in out with her (while being hung out to dry) and even danc'in with her in the summer rain --- which we have had a lot in the Eastern Shore of Maryland.

Peace out,

Pete

blazer....I only have the one version of 2nd A that's on Andy's site. it's interesting hearing the clips of the alternates. I don't have any of those mp3's uploaded, just have them stored on my hard drive for listening enjoyment. Sounds like Andy will have his site up and running in the coming week.

Andy....bless you for providing us access to all that wonderful music! Keep up the good work.

in chat 6:50 PMT

The Cornelius Bumpus website is now up and running! And yes,it's up just in time for the start of the 2000 Steely Dan tour.

corneliusbumpus.com

Blazed: So would I. My favorite rumor on Soundbite 2 is that it represents some form of the attempt to re-record the song after the accicental erasure of the origina;.

A ticket offer for the Mandalay Bay Center on ebay says that the Las Vegas show will be taped for HBO. Does anyone else know if there's some truth to this?

And does anyone have good tix for Jones Beach on Sat July 8 that need a new home??

Beast

Dr.Mu - Sounbite 2 points to the existence of yet another version I have never heard. I would love to hear it in full. If anybody knows where a full version of this one can be found let me know. The other two can be found here:

http://www.geocities.co.jp/MusicStar/6433/mp3.html

Midnite Cruiser - where is your bounty?

One more thing: has anyone got tickets for Columbia or Manassas or any of those dates from the first batch of online ticket orders? TicketMaster sure didn't wait to bill my Visa card, that's for sure....

-Andy

Hi all,

As you know, the MP3s have been down for more than a few weeks now. I've been busy beyond belief, but now I've got plenty o' time to deal with the problem. I promise I'll get to the bottom of the problem this week. I'll keep you all up to date.

Thanks,
Andy

I have all the mp3's off of Andy's site saved on my hard drive but don't have any of them uploaded....if there's a tune that you absolutely can't live without let me know and I'll try to post it on a server somewhere.

oleander....any plans on Raleigh yet?

Clas....I'm burning your copy of DanFest2000 Live @ Valhalla as I type this. should be in the mail one day this coming week.

Blaze: Yeah, Andy's site is down...haven't tried it in a while. I don't know where one can snag the whole demo now, but here's a site with snippets of 3 versions including the demo:

http://www.angelfire.com/il/babel7/sd.html

The demo indeed has a bit of a bouncy, skippy reggae feel, a bit like The New Frontier. An electric piano (don't think it's a Rhodes) graces it as well. Much of the verse lyrics are different. Here the protagonist is played more sympathetically, weary and claiming to be heartbroken, begging an old lover for a 2nd chance...a pathetic man. But stilt, there's the warning that she's in for more of the same. I like this version immensely.

A few corrections are needed here. First, 2A the demo version is not part of Andy Metzger's sound page which is magnificient nonetheless. The version he offers is the same one I refered to only the sound quality is greatly improved on the japanese page. The latter also offers the demo version. This one is radically different: no drums, laid-back reggae feel, different lyrics (quite funny actually). It's a stripped down early take with bass, piano and vocals only. It's worth checking out too, of course.

Second, refering to Metzger's sound page at this point in time can lead to frustration. The server he stored the songs on has been down for a while, you know. It's a real shame since there are some nice ditties on there. Lots to talk about.

Just one of those things ...anyone familiar with the Fried Green Tomatoes? Kathy Bates, Jessica Tandy and Mary Stuart Masterson or something like that ...A real real nice movie!

Aja, thanks for your warm words, I really feel at home here even though the silence of some has got me a little worried ...
Robin, still out there?
I also would like to address Josie who thought she couldn't top the current contributions ...there's always a story to share, I reckon.
I see drMu has had a peanutbutter and Chely sandwich ...here it's 17.00 P.M. ...had some fried garlic and potatoes...I don't do drugs of any kind, but garlic can work miracles ...a natural high indeed.
Did you ever try peanutbutter and slices cucumber?

So now it's mellow acid from England, smoothing over this Sunday afternoon...While most of you slowly get into the groove of this Sunday, I'm headed towards the end of it!!
So I hope to be reading you before I say goodnight ...

Bye now, Gina