SIS Archives -- May 2001

Name: steviedan
so i suppose...

Date: Thursday, May 31, 19101 at 23:24:08
Comments:

... that phil spector was practicing "intellectual pedofilia", along with all the cats who wrote I vi IV V7 doowop songs ad nauseam, or arguably EVERY rock pop soul country "artist" that ever "lowered themselves" to pen a nursery rhyme for the masses ? compare the britney tune "lucky" (which she even co-wrote wow) to any similar pop candy and it holds up. as pop candy. it ain't art. it ain't steely dan. it ain't legit. why judge it by that standard ? these guys have their finger on the pulse of the pop world circa 2000 and that is what it is. what they do they do better than anyone else, objectively speaking.

aus, backatcha oh tasteful one. do you have the projeckts box set ? incredible.

wormthatistom, for clarification the bill evans comments were my own. the album review of the acoustic picker that covers "josie" was straight outta the new guitar player magazine, which also contains a nice article on the larry carlton/steve lukather collaboration. i present this caveat envisioning the possibility of a four day thread on how his version sucks and steviedan recommended it. merely your reporter on that one, but i'm gonna check it out anyway...

and by the way, now you only infrequently hint at the greatness that the wormish lingo has been historically. more ! more !

oh, and one MORE "where the hell..." i forgot yesterday ... yergoldkeith ? malc ?

ladyb, heavily relating to your statement about the bene's of unemployment. there are these people at my house. i remember them... my family ! don't get me wrong, we've always been close and happy and all, but the time we've had during these two weeks are worth more than gold. music continues to be an angel as the phone has been ringing off the hook for gigs and with the prospect of teaching in the areas i have been neglecting...

"future's so bright, i gotta wear shades" (from silly pop song by timbuk 3, thank god for silly pop songs sometimes)

there were three goodbyes

Purdie also played Ratso in 1969's "Midnight Purdie."

Fab 4: John, Purdie, George & Ringo.

Current Pope: John Purdie II

...is because Ringo was playing bass. The truth is that Ringo played bass on everything after Rubber Soul because Paul was dead. Yes, all that fabulous innovative bass playing and songwriting was done by Ringo, and because he was so much better than Paul, Paul became jealous one night and drove into a tree in a fit of rage. The fake "Paul", you know... the one who broke up the Beatles... was brought in mostly for photo shoots, until he started to think he was really "The Walrus" and alienated the rest of the band.

I will now have to be killed.

Fans of the "Sgt. Pepper... " album will note that on the album cover a couple of faces have been removed. Documented sources show that Leo Gorcey and Mohandas Ghandi were removed "post exposure", and Adolph Hitler was forced to wait stage left.

What *isn't* documented is the reason for the large space almost dead center in the top row, between Edgar Allen Poe and Fred Astaire.

That's where Bernard Purdie stood, holding his 5 figure hush money check.

I love(d) Kurt. I'm convinced that what happened to him was the result of medical and psychological conditions and not because he was a "loser." I sit and drink Pennyroyal tea.

Duncan....lithium is usually prescribed for people with bi-polar disorder, commonly referred to as manic-depressive....it's supposed to just even out the mood swings from high/low to a happy medium....I'm not familiar with it's use for post-partum depression....I would think it will greatly improve her situation if in fact that's what her problem is (bi-polar)....a girl I work with has been taking lithium for about 15 years and swears by it....anyway, good luck with the situation, guess the best thing you can do for family is to be there.

thanks angel & steviedan....went with Opti for her post-op check-up and the doc gave her a clean bill of health....one more week off of work for her...I get to go back to work tomorrow and do the three 12 hour shifts through the weekend....check back in with all you good folks Monday.

no bird shots today as we were out running errands most of the day and just laid across the bed at the sliding glass doors and watched the feeder late this afternoon....saw a very immature female cardinal still following her mama and crying for food....she was almost as big as mama but had a mottled coat and a black beak with no mask.

back to the grind....MC

Just finished "Reelin in the years" By Brian Sweet. Each chapter title is a reference to a lyric:Bodacious Cowboys, Crimson Tide,Slow Hand Row etc. But I'm stuck on 2 of them "shuffling up your downs" and "proud to be your slave" any of the experts in Dan land know what tunes they're from? Thanks.

So what your telling me is
''Hold tight the shit is realy going to hit the fan soon''

Dig deep
I Am
( holding breath long enough to come up & help familt member)

P.S. I know It's not dan based but this is my life @ the moment.
Dan before me. Dan now (present) Dan future (young Dan)
All is to be decieded here.
Bad speller
D

I was wondering if Jenna Bush drank her big Black Cow? ;)

cheers!!

http://www.mentalhealth.com/drug/p30-l02.html

I love drinking & typing
love drinking & typing
I love drinking & typing
love drinking & typing
I love drinking & typing
love drinking & typing
I love drinking & typing
love drinking & typing
I love drinking & typing
love drinking & typing

p.s.

Kurt Kobain (loser) + Lithium = bang bang
(could be wrong)

http://www.mentalhealth.com/drug/p30-l02.html

Please forward any info on Lithium to
graphicsys@breathemail.net

Tired Knowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
D

I'm fine I'm just waiting for the the rest to catch up !!

Tired Now :(

I see you are quite familar with the gay terms, self R. But I'm not that kind of guy. Sorry to get you all riled up, ass bandit.

eLLe
'' you talkin to me''
D

Mad

Paul laid the original drum tracks for "Back in the USSR", but that during the next session two more drum tracks were laid while Paul played other instruments. This implies someone else laid the subsequent drum tracks, but doesn't say who.

Could it be... "The Hit Maker"?

t

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
What a fantasic hold on Engish & grammer I'm getting
IT's all falling into place now !!
That last mesage of mine made even me piss my pants
Duncan
Till I;m @ work & of the drink I still mean what I said about Lithium & info needed asap
D

"The Beatles Reording Sessions" with exact session info. Purdie played on two, maybe three tunes while Ringo played percussion, in the days when the rhythm section tracks were recorded live and dubbed over. But I'm purdie sure everything from Pepper on was Ringo, except "Back in the USSR" (Ringo had "quit") and "The Ballad of John and Yoko" which both were Paul on drums. I'll try to find what exact tracks they were...

ugh! I hate homework!

t

angel please send me that e-mail ASAP, we are putting together the list as we speak. I must take what I see. FYI, our singers original hard rock band "Red Zero" has its track "Trouble" featured on garageband.com as "track of the day" If you log on to garageband.com and click on the "hard rock" genre button, you will see Red Zero listed there

Please excuse spelling & grammer
I saw Neil Young @ phoenix 98 having never seen or heard of his ''stuff'' before & thought him an excellent show person (as in he played for the festival crowd ''me'' & gave a memorabale show if only to me Bloody Drugs & cheap @ that)
Ithought he was great but have sadly not bought any of the neil meister' product to this date.

Meanwhile I'm dealing with a family member who has been diagnosed with severe '' Post Partum Dipression'' & just this
week has been pre-scribed Lithium.

Should I trust a family member with a drug I myself have never tried.

Karen has all the support a loving family can give but now Linda need I need more support & info as so many G.Bs have moore time access to the internet any davice would be welcome.

P.S. should I let her stay with Linda & I drugs or no drugs.
Yes
now I'm answering my own questions .
Is this a signg of GB madness
or should I plough on
What the hell ''Blossom Hill is calling
Tomorrow
Duncan

I don't care what you think. But just for my own amusement I'm going to answer your questions. Try to keep up.

"You people make my asshole spasm on this guestbook."

Thanks for the compliment, but I think you're "cruising" the wrong site.

"Are you for real?"

Does it matter?

"I was under the impression that this is a forum for discussing Steely Dan and yet?"

You're an idiot. You were wrong. Get over it.

"I'm sure you consider yourselves very clever but would Don and Walt approve of this ridiculous chowder being spouted in the name of the Dan?"

You sure you're sure? You seem to be a stupid fuck so you 'd better check yourself. We don't need Don or Walt's "approval" anymore than they need ours. But hey, N*Sync needs your approval, so you'd better hop right over to their site. They'd *really* get your asshole spasming.

"I don't think so- but I'm sure you self-righteous fuckers don't care what I think."

Little problem with your parents ignoring you? I'd suggest you get some therapy but I don't care.

"So please resume your banality."

Thanks for your contribution.

.

To Ausupremo
Hey AUS, got your mail. Thanks a lot you're a real pal. Very much appreciated is there anything i can do for you ?
Look forward to receiving TOW.
Have a great day and may the force be with you.
The Fez

Hello to CYN, JIM ,DIF and the rest of the danners.

Wormy: New one by the CDrifters? whoo-hooo!

StevieDan: some of my best friends work in music stores...

If only he hadn't copped to all that stuff. Knowing it now has made me want to go out and raise bigger hell than GW ever did.
Pass me another Margarita!

Name: Anne Heche
six days, seven nights

Date: Thursday, May 31, 19101 at 13:33:01
Comments:

I waited for you Walter...
http://www.rollingstone.com/mv_news/newsarticle.asp?nid=13984

Yo Spinks, shut your pie hole or I will kick your ass. And another thing, I LIKE chowder.

>- but I'm sure you self-righteous fuckers don't care what I think.

Of course we do. We're here for you Leon. Tell us why you're troubled.

We're listening...

You people make my asshole spasm on this guestbook. Are you for real? I was under the impression that this is a forum for discussing Steely Dan and yet? I'm sure you consider yourselves very clever but would Don and Walt approve of this ridiculous chowder being spouted in the name of the Dan? I don't think so- but I'm sure you self-righteous fuckers don't care what I think. So please resume your banality.

when Quin the Eskimo get here..
walrus- the Ontario Police are the OPP, Ontario Provincial Police.

does anyone remember the Canadian band Max Webster- guitarist Kim Mitchell? He usually wore an OPP baseball hat.

BTW- Neil Young won the Juno Award for Best Male Artist this year. ; ) Canada's equivalent to the Grammy's

Stal, a few questions, based on your 5/30 post:

1) Did I understand you to say you considered some us friends?
2) Would that include those of us in the vast, treeless, cow-infested land directly south of you too?
3) Can we have a slumber party next week and do that thing with the Nixon statuette and the cocktail sauce again?

Thanks,
mW

The Fez in Australia: Hey...I bought you a copy of Mr. Beckers 11 Tracks of Whack. It will be posted into our United States Postal service today...so, however long it takes for the mail to travel to you is when you should be getting your hot little hands on the compact disc. Let me know when you get it.

Topsoilantmoist-n-slitheryone: Thanks for colour on re-released Krimso trio. Haven't bucked up to add to burgeoning Krimso collection but it sounds like I should.

LadyBaySide: Have fun at LBB tonight. I spoke with Malc late last night...all's well. BTW..NMN dropped by UBS...busy and in good spirits.

Shouts to: StevieDan, JuJuPriestess supreme, CaraMiaMarsha, FloriDavid and Aja (wannabe dominatrix)...

AusSupremo

It's P-U-R-D-I-E, George. Spelling mistakes are often made when the author has never met the person in question.

www.bernardpurdie.com

hey dif- my hubby went to the University of Winnepeg and Neil lived in Winnepeg at the time.(Fall of '72) He was invited to a party and Neil was going to be there. He decided not to go that night...probably,he says,it was a gazillion below zero weather outside, or he was tripping at the time, ( he can't remember). The party-goers were some people from the Royal Winnepeg Ballet Company,various artists,a bunch of University locals, who knew Neil and invited him. During the party a girl who had known Neil a long time said to him, " After all these years I would have thought that would have changed, but you're still the same old asshole!" Later hubby met up and the lot of them talked about that very subject. hehee

...with dreams comfort memories to spare
and in my mind, I still need a place to go
all my changes were there....

Just got done watching VH1's Cheers and Jeers special for this year so far. Not Surprisingly Eminem got cheers for the Grammys.

Critics said that Eminem was bringing a message of "tolerance.?"
Man, they were really sucking up to him.

But, according to a VH1 poll, 2VN beat Eminem's crap CD by only 1% 31% to 30% for CD most deserving to win a Grammy for best
album.

Even the Superbowl halftime show got Cheers? Huh? A cheer for
an overexposed band like N'Sync trying to hog up the stage with Aerosmith. Ray Charles should have got the cheers for America the Beautiful.

Even the R&R Hall of Fame got Cheers which was okay.

Toni Braxton and Bjork got jeers. No need to tell you why.

But Steely Dan winning the poll by a less than slim margin.
Scary, huh?

Edd- It's P-u-r-d-i. And yes, he was the fifth Beatle!

i would like to add neil young to the gb list of names of those artists without a modicum of professionalism.
the concert,in support of the "harvest" album was billed as an 'electric evening with neal and his(then)band'.
young opened the show by himself with an acoustic guitar and in the middle of the third song indignantly left the stage never to return,uttering something like "i am not a fucking nickelodeon..."
it seemed that poor neil couldn't understand a few of the concertgoers insensitivities towards him and his solo acoustic set list.
to this day when i hear his whining and snivilling voice, i think back to that summer night that made for an angry and disappointing time in the life of a 15 year old boy.

everybody, everybody knows...
dif

This reeks of "urban legend". Everyone knows "someone", or has "heard from someone", but so far second/third/nth -hand reports are all we have.

When Ringo was 9 years old he was kidnapped in the Liverpool mall. After sealing all the entrances, the police searched high and low. They found him in the women's room. His abductors had already cut and dyed his hair and were dressing him as a little girl...

Bernard Perdie sat in for him in class until his hair grew back.

Fladavid- That's the true story.It's also what I've heard. Thanks for clearing it up. Purdie is Legit!

Fladavid- That's the true story.It's also what I've heard. Thanks for clearing it up. Purdie is Legit!

Jimmy Nichol replaced Ringo for part of a tour in the 60's while Ringo had some medical problem (appendicitis?).

He says he earned $1200 for his efforts.

Perdie, of course, earned at least 10 times that amount for some anonymous overdubs that were done in a lead-lined room.

Good morning all,

Just wanted to stop by and extend an invitation, since YGK doesn't seem to be doing so...

Tycoon Dog, with whom our very own YGK plays, is playing at Le Bar Bat *tonight*...a nice Happy Hour early show...7-9pm. Knowing Pete Fogel, they will go on promptly, so do not be late if you want to see their entire set.

The band sounds great, Malcolm's got great chops, and it will be fun. Those of you who made the HOF Danfest know what a great club LBB is, and it would be great to see any of the NY/NJ contingent. I'm certainly looking forward to it.

NMN: where've you been hiding...oh, wait, that's me. Hope all's well.

Altamira: I think I arrived after you left, but I am so sorry for your loss. Losing a furry family member is terrible. Welcome back, btw.

Cyn: congraduations! I hope things were wonderful yesterday evening. Quite the occasion.

I hope to see some of the locals tonight. Aus, I know you can't make it. Shame...

Enjoy the day, everyone. Being unemployed has its benefits. I'm just going to hang out and enjoy the weather--and try not to let the panic overwhelm me.

LadyB

It's a known fact that Bernie Purdie was in London in the early 60's. This is a guy who played with Aretha Franklin on the Big Hits as well as many others artists.George Martin was well Aquainted with his work. In Drum circles it's said that Bernard played drums on some of the Beatles Demos as well as Tamborine and other percussives while masters were tracked. Ringo was a popular London Drummer with Rory Storm before he was in the Beatles. That's why they wanted him....he was a Local Celebrity
with Fans of his own. Ringo had lot's of live Gig experience but Bernard was an American Studio Pro. George Martin bought Ringo an Education in Studio work by having Bernie around for some of the sessions.

Either that or Dylan shared some good shit with them that first time, eh? Or all that LSD awoke ringo's tribal techno brain maybe?

Oh Pretty Drums
Only Purdie Does
Oh Pretty Ditty
Old Paul Digs...

Is there any supporting evidence to Perdie's claim? Is there any record of someone other than Perdie who can substantiate the claim?

I'm not getting into a pissing contest over whether Ringo (or Paul) did or didn't have the chops to do the parts.

gee

how about a juicy little run at the Purdy / Beatles connection

lets see, the Patch on McCartney's Sgt Pepper sleeve OPD
isn't "Officially Pronounced Dead" or "Ontario Police Dept"
but "Ongoing Purdy Dilema"

that was Purdies volkswagon on the Abbey Road cover

any others Blaze?

wt

Edd - In your dreams Ringo could pull some of these grooves and fills that populate the Beatles studio output in the later years. I have to doubt that story even more. If not Purdie, then someone with a similar level of expertise and feel. Ringo? Nah...

It would appear the only person who remembers Purdie playing on any Beatles sessions would be Purdie himself.

If you dig into it only slightly, it starts to smell like a boatload of crap. A $10K (MINIMUM!) "bonus" in 1963 to stay quiet? $130/hr double rate session fees? That seems like an ungodly amount of money for the time. Overdubs of 20+ songs *before* anything was released in the US?

Purdie might be quite the story teller...

Good morning all....

I have a friend who is into the Beatles. The other day, out of the blue, he asks me about Bernard Purdie, knowing I had just seen him play in New York. As the conversation continues, he tells me that Purdie says that he played on some of the Beatles stuff and that no one ever knew. So I gave him some of my Dan stuff, including Home at Last and Babylon Sisters. His first comment to me was about that Hi Hat thing going on at the top of BS. Ended up listening to the CD's the whole weekend. He gets Making Aja next. :-)

Steviedan: You have been missed. I understand your wife's hating the independent contractor angle, but sometimes it can work out for the best. Good luck, whatever you do.
Rose Darling.....interesting choice. Would love to hear you play it.

Blaise: I am confused. I don't remember dissing the RLJ site. As a matter of fact, it is quite nice.

Good day all....

My friend....

Clas, I think the slight shift in tempo on I Got The News is simply the result of the human body's natural limitations. Steve Gadd must have been wearing the tight pant that were popular at the time (it was the seventies)and every time he had to double hit the bass drum rapidly and keep it up for a few measures, he'd gain a fraction of a second. That's my theory. A machine would make it seemless and dull. It sounds more alive like that with an all too human live drummer, I think.

hey Stevie D is back
been pulling for you on the new job end
strings and things sounds interesting
thanks for the Bill Evans nods
I have a Jap import of the Riverside Green Dolphin Street disc with Philly Joe Jones - tasty stuff
you should do record reviews more often

New Continental Drifters Cd out next week
Release party monday in New Orleans
they will be out on tour on the westcoast next week
Aja - a heads up for San Diego Wednesday June 6th
may be on a bill with the Bangles?
http://www.continentaldrifters.com

hey Blaise - Purdy on the WHite Album? humm pur haps
I thought the Get Back sessions were all video taped
I can hear some of the elements you speak of
McCartney hit the skins on a few tunes himself

love the way Bernard explains his shuffle to Home At Last on the making of Aja video. When he starts playing double time and then singing along bop bop do te boppi de bop classic stuff

even funnier is Don and Walt telling the Purdy sessions story
clearly Don is saying alot with what he's not saying
yet his admiration is genuine

ever wonder if Skunk and Denny got the same meticulous try it again treatment that the hired session players endured?

Auss - hope the new assignment is treating you well
I had picked up those 80's Crimson discs
the remasters are nice and a few bonus cuts
but the Abscent Lovers live rendering seems to eclipse the studio efforts at times

took a glance at Brian Sweet's SD book in the bookstore last week

He mentions a Fagen tune "Heartbreak Memoir", I think it was Gaucho era, that they shelved because it was a little out of Donald's range

has this surfaced anywhere?

I always liked the fact that Donald never really showboated his voice but left the few vocal dynamics to Michael McDOnald and a myriad of female vocalists. Certainly substance over flair

wt

I'm ready to cross that fine line

Yes Howard - What I find amazing in Purdie's shuffled intro on BS, is the fact that the bass drum and hi-hat action, presenting kind of an hesitation dance, really finds a resounding resolution with just the hit on the snare rim. It sounds as big as hitting the skin itself squarely. This guy's a natural with accents. And the way he handles the tom fills clearly gives creedance to the rumor that this guy played on the Beatles White Album, at least. Exact same style. No doubt in my mind.
Get back, Strawberry Fields (!)... the mind reels.

Clas - yes, the nore you look at the BSisters chords, the more unlikely they seem. There's a lot of odd stuff going on, yet - as you say - it somehow seems to twist and flow in a very pleasing and natural way.

As for Purdie sounding "shaky" ... he sounds pretty damn fine to me on this one! I still can't quite get my head round what happens a few bars into the first verse ("... to the sea") - he starts up this soft triplet-ish snare and hi-hat thing. Can never quite follow it, just know it sounds great.

Howard

it is Tribal Tech and it ain't techno music, doll!
it's hardcore fusion of the wildest intense kind, electric guitars along with some mean BAD stuff to boost it into orbit LOL
very very very well produced!!!!!

Scott Henderson - Guitars
Gary Willis - Bass
Scott Kinsey - Keys
Kirk Covington - Drums

Jiminy Crock

angel - I have never complained publicly about that. It's her site and it's mighty fine the way it is. Besides, if stuff is added means she's alive and well, and yes, we were wondering.

Like we were for steviedan. Yo! The only one I'll let defend Max Martin and tribal techno w/o having the urge to flame to smithereens because he could most likely defend it in a rational manner. I don't know how he would do it yet, but I have faith there is a rationale behind it that somehow makes them pertinent. When Max Martin finally makes enough dough, maybe his obvious intimate knowledge of groove and melody can be used to better ends is what I'm sayin'.

Like Clas said exactly: "They are making music for kids. And are doing it just for the money. Being an adult and writing imbecile music, kind of lowering yourself, is also some kind of intellectual pedofili." And I would add it's like stealing the kids's lunch money or allowance like a clever pied piper would and also, no doubt, a chance at an evening alone with Britney every six months to "write with" her.

There"s a little nip in the air today in the UK.

stevieDan - good luck with your new job, if you take it.

"due to the large heaps of american dollars piled around them, they can't hear your complaint..."

Who's said anything about complaining? They are making music for kids. And are doing it just for the money. Being an adult and writing imbecile music, kind of lowering yourself, is also some kind of intellectual pedofili.

And besides, in Sweden we're still using Kronor and …ren = SEK.

C

Howard - isn't it kind of rare, apropos Babylon Sisters, a song is beginning in F# - B and the refrain is in Dm - Eb - F?

And all those Santa Ana-chords progressions in-between, and it all sounds so damn natural, kind of obvious. Great music.

I listened to the original recording from Gaucho yesterday, I was surprised over the left-ed angle, the sound-picture; the reggea-guitar at 9-a-clock (left), the drums/bass in the middle, the Rhodes in the middle (or at 1-a clock), it weights a lot over to the left (the intro that is).

And Purdies playing, nowdays when I listen to Babylon Sisters, he makes me worried, he's kind of shaky, or is it me, listening to too much sequenced stuff thru the late 80's and the 90's?

---

Felix - me being praised? I don't think so buddy, go figure.

C

oh well, i guess that's tacit approval for me to transcribe this album review:

pete huttlinger- "naked pop"

"naked pop" is just that - a collection of pop tunes delivered on a solo acoustic guitar by pete huttlinger, a former john denver and alan jackson sideman, and a former national fingerpicking champion. huttlinger tackles a diverse range of formidable tunes - such as STEELY DAN'S "JOSIE", the jackson five's "i want you back", and stevie wonder's "sir duke" - with an intimate, natural acoustic tone, and his arrangements vary from relatively straightforward readings to more elaborate dressings that showcase his astounding musicality and chops. as a listener, you will never find yourself missing any of the tunes' bass lines, melodies, or horn stabs - huttlinger has them covered, and he makes it all sound painfully easy. just in case you're not impressed yet, "naked pop" contains an unlisted bonus track that has huttlinger reeling off cascades of impossible runs, country double-stops, and an amazing display of all-around fingerstyle mastery. scary stuff."

re rlj
she was here in my town last year. my pardner, he was enraged by her attitude and lack of respect for where she was and for whom she was performing. this seemed to be the general throughout the hall vibe - lots of radio and music folk hosting and in attendance.

i, on the other vibe, was enchanted, having always loved her music and her way with it.

we were visiting this again last night. i still have no recollection of the mean and beyond bitchy thing that some others got last summer - i'll see her again some day and maybe or not she'll put that out for me to see, too. i'm just glad i experienced what i did/do.

did somebody mention fripp, who,on the other hand, is a whole different animal? reserved, quiet and rather standoffish. very present. hugely funny and warm at the same time. very comfortable, methinks, in his skin. he's tight sharpshooter, but loose. rlj's a loose cannon, just wound a little tight, maybe.

somewhere in the middle, there's a dannish kind of moment.

so sorry about your kitty, altamira.

grackles rock. funnybirds.

luv,
fred

circumcISION

end of disckussion !

... for the first time in a long time but i have become obsessed with this employment thing. i am considering a position teaching viols/strings and percussion at a large music store, this being something i had not considered until the management of the store began roping me into it. now it seems like a possible coming home and epiphany, if not a super lucrative one. getting paid to improve my chops is not sounding bad, but my wife hates the independent contractor angle. i'm feeling the "mr. holland syndrome". lisa g and z need to talk me out of it...

blaise, you did get me ! i've managed to keep up. i'll now resort to the ever-irritating stream of consciousness style to promote brevity:

stranger. kitty margolis. album. evolution. i've said it before...

max martin and company can write catchy pop songs. that's their job and they do it well and you can't stand it. fair enough. unfortunately, due to the large heaps of american dollars piled around them, they can't hear your complaint...

am i too late for the circumcism discussion ?

DAMN !

gina, tribal tech is BAD !!!

angel, the dan tunes that we attempt are "hey nineteen" (most often), "rikki", "dr. wu", and (least often) "rose darling".

aja, i do remember the marvin g and various soul threads and we can do 'em again anytime.

z, lenny breau/art tatum dna could not be contained, rendering it impractical.

it has been nice to see roy, skully, alta, aus, hutch weighing in...

but where the hell is ole ? kd ? miz d ? where the hell ?

jjflash is "steviedan rookie of the week".

wormy, did i ever advise on the bill evans metal box ? that is the complete verve recordings. i would recommend getting a cd or two from his various periods. the verve stuff would not be as essential to me as the riverside label stuff. depends on how much you want to spend of course. for riverside get "live at the village vanguard" or "everybody digs...". for verve era, try the grammy winning "conversations with myself". a personal fave on warner bros. would be "affinity" with toots thielemans. or just get it all and get it over with.

mc, how's opti ?

alta/dave/edd, the thyroid thing sounds like like my old 21 year old bartok. that, his heart arrhythmia, general dementia, failing kidneys, deafness... take your pick. he can still jump up to the top of any furniture he is not welcome on and is still a worthy adversary. he seems totally comfortable and possibly immortal. i think he has taken up howling lessons as well.

howling reminds me of fiona apple. she does the whole "i-can't-hear-myself-throw-down-the-mike-and-walk-off" schtick also. that jacket doesn't look good on anyone.

good to be back...

Beautiful day in L.A....

Crazy Zee: Congratulations on getting one of them onto Oleander's site. As Blaise and I have often said recently, it ain't easy. Though we keep trying..... :-)

Ole: Speaking of your site, I like the fact that you can now click onto some of the songs to find out their interpretations. Is that a new feature? I noticed it on Aja and Gaucho. Saves me scrolling. You seem to indicate that you may stay with earthlink. Good luck whatever you do.

Felix: I too have met several people who post on this Guest Book and have found them all to be very nice people. Why can't we care if they have problems (to a certain degree of course).

dif and Craigster: Sorry I had to go. I was having a good time with you both. Hopefully, we will connect again. :-)

Blaise: Too much, my man.... I would get fired if I was checking out that stuff at work.... lol

Midnight Cruiser: Cool Zildjian tour. I never knew that it meant cymbalsmith in Armenian. Is Opti feeling better?

W1P: Still working on it. Will e you.

Aussie: Sorry to hear you and Chere did not manage to connect. Going anywhere cool? I miss my faithful narrator....

Good night all....

Midnight Cruiser....

gee i dunno, recently i've started tolike ellem ore than scyn, but goes back rand froth hatemboth but it gina and blaise are beter bpeple even felix is better classis wayway better than syn and ell altamirea is better tooeven lp nonot reallly actul;l;y i like al morethse sdaysamongtehbetters

oh yeah! by Weather Report on Heavy Weather hehe

6/2 Which One's Pink? (dragged down by the stone) & Sheer Heart Attack (my new purple shoes been amazin the people next door) at LA's Troubadour. Any angeleno GBers coming?

Cruiser, great little article on manufacturing cymbals there. Leon is my man.

I got one too but it's in French. I translated the part about The Making Of Gaucho in Surround Sound but there's also details shared about his recording history with Steely Dan, which dates back to the Royal Scam.
Anyway, it's here, have fun:
http://perso.club-internet.fr/fernould/scheiner.html

Elliot Scheiner on mixing Gaucho in multi-channel DTS 5.1

ÇNobody really knows the true possibilities of this format.
the members of the band (Steely Dan) let me do what I wanted. They came to listen everyday and in the end, they were very pleased with the results.
I did things that were quite unusual: I think that 5.1 is really meant to surround, immerse the listener in the music, not only
not only to send reverbs and some backdrop effects while remaining stereo in front.
Consequently, most of the time, I would bring the rythm section upfront, but the horns
and backing vocals permanently in the back... It's rather clever: sometimes, certain elements
I don't know what to with in a stereo mix, that I have to bring very low in the mix
: in Surround, I always find a place for it somewhere
and make it heard! As far as lead vocals are concerned, I evidently bring them in the central channel
, but also left and right. Some do it like in films: voice in the middle, that's it.
I find that it sounds artificial. On top of that, the listeners can then
listen to the vocals exclusively when they cancel out the other channels
of his amp, - and I don't think that's very nice.È.

hello, just discovered a new band out of London, a duo who call themselves"samuel purdey" not unlike our heroes, a mix of jazz, rock and mellow riffs courtesy of Elliot Randall no less, just thought id share that with you all.
is there gas in the car?.

not slamming Ricki. I know she is a great artist. I'm listening to "Naked Songs" as I type. Hey, for some it takes a strong stomach, but I dig it. I guess it all comes down to the mighty buck. If I'm laying down some good hard earned money to "hear" good music, I don't want to "see" bullshit. Professionalism is part of the gig, at least I expect it from her, maybe not Keith Richards.

concert season is kinda slow.

takes the newbie hat and sits in the corner for making a double post

Zildjian Factory Tour:

http://www.marsmusic.com/store/zildjian/factory_tour/index.jhtml?gen45=zim

see, no birds that time. *hehehe*

Zildjian Factory Tour:

http://www.marsmusic.com/store/zildjian/factory_tour/index.jhtml?gen45=zim

see, no birds that time. *hehehe*

ok, if you're really bored *or* have a really fast broadband connection you can check out:

http://www.geocities.com/virginiabirder/Bunting.mov

***WARNING*** This file is 11 megs and will take quite some time to download....requires QuickTime plug-in for viewing .mov files.

I promise folks, after tomorrow I won't be doing nearly as many bird posts....thanks for your indulgence.

Edd....thanks for the Bravo on Best Bunting!

Altamira....now if I can just get him on film! (the pileated pecker)

Jim , You heard right on the Joe J rumour , a abunch of us used to go and see him regularly when Look Sharp came out and if no one was paying attention he used to stop and say " if you dont want to listen to me then F**k Off , very up front but I used to like that because if the didn"T stop Fu**ing aroun he used to tell the doorman to throw them out.

Top Guy JJ.

Midnite--You were most fortunate to have a pileated woodpecker in your yard; they are impressive birds. I've seen two of them, both in Virginia--one at Fort Belvoir and one at Potomac Lookout Park.

Hutch--Thanks; it's good to hear from you. I'm glad your cat had such a long life.

Gina--Regarding silence during classical music concerts, one thing to consider is that classical music has a wide volume range. When the volume is at its lowest, any sound coming from the audience would make it nearly impossible to hear the music.

No one here can love and understand me,
Oh what hard luck stories they all hand me.

Make my bed and light the light
I'll arrive late tonight,
bye bye blackbird

Hey everybody!

BirdLand aka Edd, Midnite Cruiser, et alia: Enjoying the different bird spotting (no pun intended)reports...very nice. Last night on the PBS 13 there was a segment entitled:The Living Edens: Costa Rica, Land of Pure Life. It was hardcore. The diversity of birdlife in those jungles was simply out of this world incredible. If you get the chanse definitely tune in...worth every second, and the footage was first class.

Chere: Sorry we missed each other sweetie. Still nice to make you laugh and smile on the portable blaster from Las Olas sipping on lime laden rhum potables. Will have to make triple sure it happens on our next sortie...

Floridavid: Nice hook up last night brother. Keep on jammin that bone! And leg up..lol.

Wormianwonderwurm: Yes. Robert Fripp's writings are as intense as his music. I always enjoy those....btw: I received a postcard mailer blast from the good folks at DGM Mobile: they're re-releasing King Crimson's concept trio discs (Discipline, Beat, TOAPP)with new liner notes (From Fripp) new unrealeased pictures and a bunch of other goodies....I think the discs are also digitally re-mastered..just an FYI heads up.

NMN: Nice to have you, albeit briefly, at the office digs today. One hundred billion (holding pinky to corner of mouth) thank yous for the musical goodie. Who's better than you?? Must reconvene asap for rhum delights plus.

NegativeGirl: Communication breakdown. Wha happen baybee? Beep me on my beepa numba ah-ite?

LadyBaySide: Can't make Malcolm's gig tomorrow night at LBB ..read email for details.

Daddy and LisaG: Heeeeey! Yankee Stadium soon? For laughs, goofs, hotdogs and beers in the sun? Eblast and advise pleeeze.

Been cranking on Lee Morgan :Infinity lately. Smoldering.

more later.

Aus

Hold on, bucko-time to say the words."
I closed my eyes and said the words:
Dildo, dildo, for up my fan,
Will you thrill like Steely Dan?
"Good boy," she said. "Continue."
"Yes, my liege. Thank you, my liege." I nodded the dildo in reverence."
http://www.pifmagazine.com/vol18/weem.shtml

I found Steely Dan in the bedsheets,
with blood and stuff from both places on it. I never use it
down behind, and I never use it when the batteries are dead,
like they've been since Sunday. My hands are down there
covering up, making safe, with the strength back in them,
too late.
http://lubakmetyk.hispeed.com/others/benway/cat.txt

While he was gone, I went inside and took off all my clothes. I strapped on "Steely Dan," our strap-on dildo, and had an "erection" as soon as my SO walked in the door. It was a little difficult getting Steely Dan up my lovers ass. I think he would have preferred another enema.
http://www.speculumpages.com/Page3/Enema_Adventure.html

"Anyway, Dr. Wu is where we send girls who really a need a wake-up call. OK, not girls. So far it's only been one girl. Tara O'Hara. She was two years ago. One week a nice, normal high school girl, the next week, a total wreck. I hear she's a crack whore now in Dallas, giving blow jobs for $25 a pop.
http://www.giffer.com/stories/hetro/toytif08.htm

"She gave me a final lick and traded my rapidly softening tool for Henry's Steely Dan."
http://www.storypost.com/story.phtml?storyname=x14.html

"Speed bumps and her
favorite appliance -- we'll just call it "Steely Dan" -- were her
favorite combination when she was, um, tooling around the city."
http://www.jump.net/~pkrouse/humor/original/may_bfd

Oleander -- I noticed you included my my interpretation of Babylon Sisters on the "Deconstruct" site but not my comments on Rikki. Is there a reason?

Bye Bye Birdie!

re: MC "Best Bunting"

BRAVO!!

P.S. Cyn
We're of on the big bird to costa-del-sol Marbella
So roll on the 15th

Anyone know who did the merchandising for 2VN Europe as my muched loved but seldom seen t shirt has srunk to the ''size of a mouse'' Shazamm!!!
Duncan

( I love my cats & all this talk is now starting to freak me out )

optimized at 1024x768 for your desktop wallpaper:

http://www.geocities.com/virginiabirder/BestBunting.jpg

it's 200k so don't look if you don't want to.

An interview with Aja, a dominatrix:
http://www.peepingmoe.com/ajaholics/interview2.htm

hey St. Al, hadn't seen your posting yet, haha, i am not going to get into it anymore, i know it is unprofessional to walk out of a concert or at least when it appears to be like that .. it's circumstances, she cancelled a gig in Paris because she was tired. i would have understood if she had cancelled the entire european tour because she wasn't feeling that well or up to it.
she's a strange and peculiar person but her music makes up for it, or includes that.
it's safer to love the music of Steely Dan, because they don't play live for years and then decide to go out there after all, that's great for the fans!!!
we don't always get what we want. nor an artist nor the audience.
and you can take it either way, stick with it or not.
RLJ's concerts aren't always good, so i've heard. but most of her audience remains loyal anyway ..

enough already :-)
there are circumstances that don't really make up an excuse for some of her behaviour, but it is who she is anyhow.
flaunt the imperfection, wasn't that China Crisis?

Felix -- Who says we're strangers? I've met many of the people that post on this GB and consider them friends. You certainly have a right to your opinion, but you're wrong in assuming some of us don't care.

Edd....I wondered about the young grackle possibility but the all black eyes threw me....guess I'd just never seen a young 'un.

yeah, the pileated woodpecker did look like a red headed Kramer! Shirl went and got the binoculars and we were able to watch him for about 5 minutes before he got bored and moved on into the woods....I need to load up my A1 with a roll of film and the 400mm lens in case he comes back....the red bellied peckers are fairly common here and occasionally come up to the feeder but not very often....we've also got a couple varieties of hawk that land in the backyard on occasion that I want to photograph....the coolpix is the best for the feeder shots but I'm gonna have to rely on the Canon for the shots in the trees....still have most of today and all of tomorrow before I'm back to work so maybe I can get some unusual stuff before then....time to empty the compact flash card and get back so the Citizen box set and the camera.

oh great, we're entering the Faces of Death zone, albeit (nice word btw) a non-director's cut :-))
having your pets cremated and save in pottery to keep on your piano or mantelpiece .. they make for nice percussion instruments, could it be their teeth in there ..

Felix, we shouldn't make fun of you and respect your feelings as well, right? it's not the same, i realize, but Darwin's law sometimes isn't all that prehistoric. we have a lifetime to grow and get stronger or die on international television, hm ..well, not humans "yet". saw an orang oetan mom and her baby die.
the film makers didn't intervene, so weird in a way, for they marked the fact there weren't that many orang oetans anymore. evolution, nature? on Sumatra there's a safehouse where young orang oetans are taken, abandoned by people who had them as pets and wanted to get rid of the animals when they became a nuisance. some were even beaten and that's real real sad.
one orang oetan covered the back of his head all the time with his hands, each time one of the volunteers reached out for him to take him somewhere else. that is sooo sad.

if i see my neighbour have an argument with his wife and they're calling names and throwing furniture around, am i allowed to interfere? should i assume the worst? am i capable of judging the situation? is it an incident or has it occurred more often? has the police ever been involved ? should i call the police right now?

notorious is a word related to the public, the audience, the receptive party, general opinion. a consumer's idiom.
and consumer's don't really care but to see their needs fullfilled. they find ways for gratification, one way or another. ofcourse with a little help from those who feed. one way or another as well. hm.
it's also a matter of humiliation, also a consumer's idiom. often emotions filled in for someone else. if one calls another names, the other party must feel bad about it. so you feel bad or humiliated for that person instead. anyway, :-))
just blathing away i guess!
listening to classical music requires a silent audience, even a repressed cough is enough to arouse annoyance. it is funny, the way things differ in popconcerts, small venues, big etc. etc.
cultural differences? is classical music of more meaning than pop? i'm just thinking out loud here, no points yet to be made, if ever ..
i remember people getting annoyed because some started dancing during Steely Dan concerts. "Love & Kisses" Diane took great pride in starting the thread on the GB back in those days, i remember that as well .. even in one audience people can differ, yet they all came to enjoy the same band, Steely Dan. each in a way that suited best ..

some can do whatever they want and i won't change my mind about them. RLJ is one of those people. it's her essence i know. some people alter through life stages, some grow and some live bewildered lives. not up to their potential. some live safe lives. no highs, no lows. safe in the middle of the road. ah well, never understood that one, for if you really are in the middle of the road you get hit by any car or truck coming from both directions, right??

off, words to blather, great idea Blaise.
G.

Gina -- though I understand your argument it's still no excuse for walking out on a concert. I can almost understand the tongue lashing she gave those 2 inconsiderate schmucks, however, walking out on your fans mid-stream is, well, just plain unprofessional. This type of action puts her in the same class as Axl Rose, and we all know Rickie has more class.

MC - I've got to believe your mystery bird is a juvenile... grackle.

I've dug around and that's all that fits. The closest alternative was a Brewer's Blackbird, but they have pale eyes. Grackles also have pale eyes, except for the juveniles. That big honking schnozola on your mystery bird just doesn't match with any other black bird of that approximate size *except* a grackle.
(Common Crow would be a much bigger bird.)

http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/id/framlst/Photo/Images/h5110pi.jpg

I've yet to see a pileated woodpecker. I thought I might have had one last week, as there was a raucous bird out back alternating between calling and drumming. I grabbed the binoculars and found the source. T'was a red-bellied woodpecker. A nice "catch", but no pileated!

For those unfamiliar with these birds, they're sort of the crow-sized "Kramer" of the bird world.

http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/id/framlst/Photo/Images/h4050pi.jpg

Floridadavid: investigate chronic renal failure or CRF. Very common in older cats and weight loss one sign (a few simple blood results also another way to diagnose). Cats can live a good while with good quality after diagnosis with the proper care . Mine had CRF from age 18 - 21. see http://www.felinecrf.com/

* If you have food in the refrigerator, clothes on
your back, a roof overhead and a place to sleep ...
you are richer than 75% of this world.

* If you have money in the bank, in your wallet, and
spare change in a dish someplace ... you are among the
top 8% of the world's wealthy.

* If you woke up this morning with more health than
illness ... you are more blessed than the million
whowill not survive this week.

* If you have never experienced the danger of battle,
the loneliness of imprisonment, the agony of torture,
or the pangs of starvation ...you are ahead of
500million people in the world.

* If you can go to the places without fear of
harassment,arrest,torture, or death ... you are more
blessed than three billion people in the world.

* If you hold up your head with a smile on your face
and are truly thankful... you are blessed because the
majority can, but most do not.

* If you can hold
someone's hand, hug them or even
touch them on the shoulder... you are blessed because
you can offer healing touch.

*If you can read this
message, you just received a
double blessing in that someone was thinking of you,
and furthermore, you are more blessed than over two
billion people in the world that cannot read at all.

If there is no light at the end of the tunnel go down and switch one on!

"Xander's attention was dragged to the dildo. "What's that?."
"That's Steely. I'll bet you'd like to stick him to Spike right about now, wouldn't you?" She asked.
"I don't know what you're talking about," he said, his eyes devouring the dildo."
http://www.internettrash.com/users/raswain/souls.htm

keep loading those bird feeders

it keeps them buzzards away from us juicy worms

lets see

the artist and the fan base
what's close and what's too close

Personally I think Don and Walt keep a healthy distance
an occasional wiff of their wonderful humour on the ODP is enough
it was nice when Walter logged in from the road more often (96)
but I'd rather have him less accessible if it's less stressful

Suzanne Vega writes in to the fan base Undertow mailing list from time to time. she also has an arrangement when she's touring that those on her list can chat with the sound engineer and get access backstage to meet her. Probably ends up in too many ackward photo opps but she does reach out

King Crimson has an enviable (at times too exhaustive) set of diaries and available "bootleg" collectors live offerings. You also get first hand accounts of the recording process. HOwever many of the comments on a fan based Elephant Talk digest from fans of the 73-74 lineup have been rather critical of the 80's - 90's version of the band and especially Adrian Belew. So much so that he wrote a song Prozac Blues that is a depressing look at the artist getting weighed down by the critics. And Robert Fripp wo is an eloquent statesman via his diaries and spend hours digressing, is almost totally unapproachable in public

seems a little distance for the muse from the medium is a good thing

wt

saw my first pileated woodpecker ever today....heard him before I saw him and what a bizarre call....he's huge and quite striking....no pics though, he didn't come near the feeder.

still no clue as to what the mystery bird was yesterday.

If a cat has nine lives.....How many is Felix down to?

ps..Roy Rogers had Trigger stuffed...I saw him (Trigger)in 64' at the RR museum in California. Being a good judge a horseflesh...he didn't look all that bad.

"Steely Dan are named for a dildo in a Burroughs novel. With cyclic inspiration, I named my blue jelly vibrator Deacon Blue, after a line in a Steely Dan song. It's sort of a "life imitates art imitating art" thing."
http://blather.newdream.net/d/dildo.html

Yes Felix, aren't we humans the most inconsistent ever?
Among animals it's a lot more honest.
They just rip your heart out if you trespass!
If you're lucky.

Feliz Na Vida

" I can see by what you carry that you come from Barrytown"

Hutch- You're right. Ed, I'm sorry for telling you to relax and have a smoke.

I just think it's a little wierd that some people feel the need to come on here and poor there hearts out to complete strangers. I mean, having to let us know what you're are doing with your dead animal or telling us that your wife has been "puking her guts out" is something I think you should keep to yourself or to your shrink. It doesn't mean I'm not normal if I disagree or feel the need to come on here and talk about my feelings towards these subjects. Clas comes on here and says a lot more fucked up things then I've said and he gets praised. Go figure.

so let's me make sure i'm getting your point gina: if an artist or group is REALLY good, it is acceptible to exhibit the kind of bratty behavior rlj is notorious for? i think that's a crock of dung.

Alta - It's great to have you back! I'm very sorry to hear about your cat's passing. I had a little black cat named Jet who lived to be eighteen. After so many years together it's very hard when you have to say goodbye.

Felix - Sensitivity, compassion and tolerance are things you learn when you become an adult. Maybe you'll learn these things one day but, to tell you the truth, I doubt it. Telling Edd to have a smoke puts you in a very special category of fools. You really should be ashamed of yourself. I think you owe him an apology.

for it speaks for itself this is no issue at all at her own PLP :-)

there is a difference in hosting a website being a fan or hosting a site being the subject of fandom. the ODP or official Steely Dan site contains lots of material on the group or founders but less emails from the fans and yes, no doubt the amount of fans is bigger and fan initiatives like St.Al's take away any neccesity for Steely Dan to have a forum or discussion corner of their own on their website.
if they had, i wonder if they would allow personal insults or low rank dissing in a medium which presents them to the world. and yes, i would have thought twice before removing any of those postings because, as you said, nobody really cared or wanted to kiss off listening to RLJ's music and this censorship but the ones who never even were real fans to begin with. but then again, freedom of speech and censorship has already dug its own grave on numerous occasions, kind of a matter balancing or tipping scales i guess .. i doubt whether there's a wrong and right in all of this ..
and RLJ being closer to her fans is not a marketing strategy .. this observation forwarded by your natural scepticism or "not saying yes until proven otherwise" scientific angle looking at things and therefore not held against ya, Blaise :-))

Yes, it's not Donald Fagen's style and no-one will ever expect him to socialize or get more than "appreciate it" and yes, Walter Becker does thank the loyal fandom each time there's a public appearance and that's part of why his work or talent or end of the craftsmenship SD shows more life and genuine tangible substances in it than Donald Fagen's work who travels using concepts and perfected ideas which results in good and brilliant music just the same .. i guess that's why Sun Mountain is dear to me in a way because it shows a Donald Fagen pure in his essence, the fragile voice & singing, only the piano ..

and the reason why SD for many years never went on stage to perform live, was because their perfected ideas of how their music should sound would never meet their standards live .. RLJ is trying to do so anyway in spite of her mood swings or unease feelings.
to some folks music is just entertainment and not related to emotions or changes in life, the music of RLJ has helped many people who had difficult times in their lives accept who they are or find a place of their own, in this light she was a "therapist" before this line of work was drained because it became trendy. the "counceling" bug that started in North-America, i think?
some things are sheer entertainment, some things have a little more impact than a high that lasts for a few hours. some music is cerebral, some is heartfelt and endearing. interesting to try and find the variety in levels, listening to any music for that matter ..

aahh, off now and i really really like the boobies, their blue peddle-like feet, amazing!!!

the underwaterworld a real beautiful world as well, any deepsea divers among us to vouch for that????

Banyan Tree Sub Marinated Bow,
G.

Good morning all....

Edd: Who would have thought it would be you.

Howard: Yeah, the Greek festival almost made me want to change my ethnic backround. :-)

Blaise: Any interesting hits today. LOL

About performers. Be they actors, singers, whatever. If you live in the public eye, you should live up to a higher standard. Common courtesy should rule, but almost never does. What bothers me is that, when you are one of these people, it is your fans/public who are buying the records or watching the movies or shows that give you your income. Some don't seem to care or actually feel that their fame gives them the right to act like jerks. A real shame, in my opinion.

Off to work to check out that Jack Of Speed thing at the end of the song. :-)

Good day all....

With the Jack of Speed....

Edd- I'm afraid I've got to part with Felix on this one. If sticking your cat in a freezer and having it stuffed so you can pet it for the rest of your life is normal.... I guess that means I'm not normal either.

What witty retorts from Felix! How clever he is!

He's such a scrapper, bolstering his fragile ego by trying to diminish the value others add to their own lives.

Give it up, Felix. You're outclassed and outwitted by everyone here. QED.

Guys, it's not like these parts you talk about are hidden in the grooves or anything, right? The keyboard-guitar morphing in WOH and the sustained note in JOS, I mean. They kinda jump at you. Now, the modem sound in NG that Mu talked about, that's another story. I still can't hear that one no matter how much I try.

Gina - Rickie appears closer to her fan base but that is just part of a different marketing strategy, imo. If she benefited from the exposure and commercial success that Steely Dan recently enjoyed, I'm sure things would be a little different. Having said that, I think if I was wearing Steely Dan's shoes, I would be curious to know what goes on out there in terms of reception to my work and might even jump in the waters myself just as Pat Metheny or Rickie Lee Jones did, even if only in an anonymous manner. It often comes down to a question of personality as well. Becker seems closer to the fans overall. I don't hold that against Fagen, as you know. It's just not his style.
Still, I think censoring web material that puts your image into question is rather lame. Not that anyone over at rickie's forum seems to care at all anyway but... some people here have been rather harsh on the Boys or even their immediate entourage and yet I didn't hear of anyone asking StAl to remove any of it even though this is, arguably, a much more popular venue.

Ed- Listen, I love my wife, but that doesn't mean when she "kicks it" I'm going to have her stuffed and sleep next to her. Why don't you relax and have a smoke.

Ed- Listen, I love my wife, but that doesn't mean when she "kicks it" I'm going to have her stuffed and sleep next to her. Why don't you relax and have a smoke.

lots of catching up ...

Hutch - must remember to check out that WOH piano/organ moment you mentioned. It's little details like this that make SD a real audio treasure trove.

One thing in Jack of Speed that jumped out at me recently - just before the outtro sequence, when the track drops down to drums/bass/keyboard and not much else, there's this really long, quiet sustained guitar note - quite high up, some vibrato keeping it going. Very reminiscent of the intro to Hendrix' Foxy Lady. It's a great effect, because it keeps this nagging tension going in the background - this unresolved guitar note, which finally wakes up as the lead guitar plays out over the outtro. Very nice.

Steveedan - got the guitar fret to note document, thanks. Will try and incorporate this into a "keyboard friendly" page for my site. Hope the clavinet stuff goes OK.

angel - the Greek festival sounds good. My girlfriend's Greek, so I know what these things can be like. They sure know how to enjoy good food, wine and music!

Lisa G - welcome back! Glad that your hard work for the concerts paid off. Don't stress yourself trying to catch up with all the SD chord chat ... but in your own time, your thoughts are always welcome!

Clas - thanks for the B.Sisters feedback. That SD "complete" songbook (from what I remember of it) is not that good. Some of the songs are in the wrong key, and the chords can be a bit off.

If anyone's interested, my biassed views/reviews of SD songbooks can be found at:

http://www.jmdl.com/howard/steelydan/songbooks.html

Howard

EDD..would that be a Village Idiot or just an everyday, run of the mill Idiot?.....LOL!

Hey Felix, grow up. When did *you* become the measure of normalcy?

Are you so god-damn stuck on yourself you can't see that the rest of the world doesn't live by *your* standards? Are you SO important?

YOU, little man, are an idiot.

Well, friends this is it, after 13 years of saying "Get Up", "What do you want for breakfast" " Got your books?" "Is your homework done?" Any papers I need to sign? HES DONE!..... But because I've got bad timing I have another 7 years of the above.

Dif...I found IT!!!! (blue silk)

eLLe...great pics!! Would you send me that raccoon for my petting zoo?

sh...nice meeting you..."Mom...the boys are making faces at meeeee!!!!"

Duncan..where are you going in Spain? My old home.

danooooo...what size bra do ya think I should get for those tits?

EDD, MC and all the steely birders...was just in my backyard and heard the melodious honk of some geese. Shouldn't they be back in Canada by now?...LOL I held up traffic yesterday so a mama duck and 4 babies could cross the road to the pond...really pissed off the people behind me...Hell, if I had to, I would have gotten out of the car and stopped all traffic. Great article this week in Time about birdwatchin'.

When I hear about an "Artist" (as in Ms. Jones's case) I think of 2 things..
1.Don't use your fame to excuse bad manners...you use the toilet just like the rest of us.

2. read the above...lol

jimmyyyyyy....did ya get my e-mail? I'll be checkin' the chat just in case you show up.

Hey Ed! How come you didn't freeze your cat?

Altimira- I'm sorry and everything but you should really learn to "let go" That's some really morbid shit you're doing. FREAK!

Hmmm... Swedes are all that, eh Tito? Thanks for the wake up call buddie. pfft
Clas, looks like you're merely a bourgeois disguised as a socialist.You've been unmasked by a sharpshooter there. You now have to come clean with your hidden agenda. That goes for Lars, Max Martin and Bjorn Borg too, btw. There, we figured you out, case closed.

G. - it doesn't matter if RLJ is an asshole or has to live up to the rep. Music is the bottom line, always. For example, I used to like The Cure in the late eighties but couldn't stand to see Robert Smith at all. He looked totally ridiculous. Doesn't mean "Pictures of you", "A night like this", "Just like Heaven" and such aren't great little pop songs just the same.

angel - I'm done with the cats and dogs and am now moving on to the sexual devices named Steely Dan category. So it my duty to comb all porn sites and report on them. It's a tough job but somebody has to do it. :o)

Missed saying that, btw:
Roy Scam Rules!!!

hello,
I am a french guy who experienced Stockholm for 2 years and it was 3 years ago.
Here is what I conclude from there. This is my personal view only.

Stockholom city :
It is the capital where people are "bourgeois", snob.
Stureplan nightclubs are very fancy. People love to say they know celebrities of TV.

behavior :
Swedes are very discrete and secret people. They are totally politicaly correct and they never want to express
their feelings.
Swedes are always correct, polite, they apologize for everything. They cannot stand people who are not polite and
always expect you to behave well. They expect everyone to behave the same way.
Swedes dont drink in the week but very much in the week end. Alcohol is highly expensive.
Swedes dont express their feelings and try to avoid discussions or politics. They try to hide all defects and
show only bright side of things.
Swedes dislike people who show they are rich or poor. Swedes can be very jealous if you are "better".
Swedes love to work and are very rigourous and organized. They can work until they are burned-out without
complaining.
Swedes love to have a good and "clean" image of their country. They like to show they are "good and nice and
polite and intelligent" people. They think they are the best.
Swedes love to show they can speak good english but they wont speak to you if they dont.
If you dont speak swedish, you will never be really integrated.

foreigners :
Foreigners are second zone citizens. The best jobs are kept for swedish people. There are very few black people
in Sweden except in the suburbs. Racism is hidden as much as possible.
Swedish always say "I have nothing against immigrants". They say it is worse in other countries. Racism in Sweden
is to a very high degree organised.

girls :
Swedish girls love the US and all dream to marry a rich person especially from the US. Most of them study abroad
like in Paris, Nice, London, NY, LA and dont want to go back to Sweden.
Swedish girls dye their hair in blond because it is fashionable but most of them are redheaded.
Swedish girls are very independant and love to have a "good" life.
Swedish men have not much success with girls except if they have money etc.
Swedish girls love the sun and holidays. They hate winter and cold.

nature :
Sweden is almost empty so nature is everywhere. The best time is summer.
Winter is dark and depressive and suicides high in that time.

economy :
The social system is very good and developped but taxes are very high.
Wages are low and life is very expensive.
It is almost impossible to find a flat in Stockholm.

nice to notice people do enjoy other creatures as in birds and cats and dogs!! nice links!

to the anon, i won't ignore you since using the word "fuckhead" shows your emotional state of being, still in the process of kicking life's desillusion, right?
regarding the personal issue you seem to have with me or what i posted and don't dare to show your face/handle around here, it confirms a generalization i tried to prevent from crawling up under Grand Canyon grooves anyways ..
you make things sound so shallow and insignificant. well maybe it is, given the void of existence and the dust to dust in the end ..
look at your fellow GB-ers, most of them have websites of their own, guestbooks, salons, the works. they're all individuals sharing the realms of their individual minds and hearts and keep this torch of communication burning. they're no less than people who make big bucks in showbusiness or sell records without even having played for live audiences in order to achieve that. some people were born with a more sensitive nature, some commit suicide and some do drugs before or on their way to get there. you and me, ofcourse, are the mediajoker crowd enjoying the entertainment and as consumers have this list of demands. it's a system and it works a certain way. like Steely Dan fans allow their heroes to be the way they are, for it's part of a myth, oh goodie, it would be a disaster if they would be easy to access all of a sudden .. host tea-parties or really show up at the Danfest. that would take the icing of a cake so carefully built up ..
each artist or performer creates his own image, or is the personality he/she is. RLJ is not creating anything, she sells her own personality and this a thin line. it is people like you, who regard me in a certain way for things i've written, who also condemn and judge the souls of those who are more fragile than others. there's good and bad vibes all over this place. sooner or later the bad vibes catch up and mostly pick a hole in those who aim for the best there is. that's nature or chemistry.

thank you anon, for showing me what my priorities are!

Banyan Tree Bow,
G.

Duncan, you're a yo-yo.

Rickie Lee Jones was in a great mood during an outdoor concert at the Stockholm Jazz fest some years ago. She told the audience, -you're so sweet.

C

Welcome back Altamira, I'm sorry for your cat.

re thyroid, is that some kind of messed up metabolism thing?

Midnite C - yeah, men and machines uh? Yes it's that Roland(!) printer.

Steveedan - cool, playing Steely Dan on a wedding.

C

''Our freedom of speech is freedom or death
We got to fight the powers that be''

Be aware of the new speed cameras which are being erected the complete length of the 'A' and 'M' roads. They are recognised by tall blue coloured poles and a small aerial pole next to it. We may have a possible stay of execution, due to the privacy law upholding these units from being switched on. At the moment, it is being debated within Parliament.

SPEEDCHECK SVVD or SPECS went on-line last weekend on the M1, netting 4,300 offenders in a single day. The system does not use instantaneous speed like the cameras we're all familiar with, instead measuring the average speed of every vehicle over a distance of about a mile.

How? By reading your license plates and matching them up camera-to-camera.

Kent and Leicestershire police are so impressed with it that systems are being erected in their Enforcement areas too. This is a new system that has now entered service after successful trials on the M1 and M20.

SPEEDCHECK SVDD (Sureway Video Detection Device) is a system similar in concept to the GATSO, but with a new twist. SVDD deploys cameras at either end of a measured baseline (up to 500 metres) to monitor vehicles 24 hours a day.

Using machine vision, vehicle number plates are read, and the precise time of each observation recorded and as a vehicle passes the second camera, the number plate records are matched, and an average speed for the vehicle is calculated. If this is above the trigger speed, then the vehicle's identification is recorded along with its speed. It is also flashed up on a huge illuminated sign further down the road to embarrass the driver into slowing down. When triggered, the detection technology used in these
cameras automatically records the date, precise time, location and speed of
the offending vehicle, along with a detailed image of the front of the vehicle, which clearly records the number plate, make, model, who is driving
and colour of the vehicle.

There's five overriding reasons for the habitual speeder to be afraid of this system. Or maybe there could be the implication of a sixth reason -

What if s/he is not your full-time other half!
1. It works 24 hours a day.
2. Needs to film!
3. Uses no flash!
4. Uses no radar! So bad luck all of those who think that radar
detectors work.
5. It's been proven to be over 99% accurate in almost all weather
conditions.

It doesn't do spot-speed checking. A GATSO can only check the speed of a vehicle within a certain range, so the tactic most drivers use now is to slow down for the camera and then speed up again once past it.
SPEEDCHECK
measures average speed over known distance. So if you do 60mph under each camera and then speed up to 80mph in between, your average speed is likely to be near 70mph - 10 over the limit imposed, you're nicked. SVDD say this means that the system can impose a far smoother flow of traffic,
eliminating slow-fast driving that the GATSO cameras provoke. Because it's automated,
the system is entirely self-sufficient.
It's hooked up to the DVLA
computers and can automatically process the fines and send out notices in the post. It's Big Brother. Don't believe for a moment that this technology will only be used to catch speeders. It can be used to keep
track of where every single car in the country is at any given moment in time, once the network of these things becomes broad enough. Warning to M25 motorists - if you are a driver then this is important!
Even if you aren't, you know people who are, so it is still important!
There are 60 new cameras that start operating on the M25 on Monday 14th June 2001.
These are between the A3 and M40.
They are digital and linked direct to computer, use no film or flashgun. They can deal with 60,000 tickets EVERY HOUR! The cameras are also apparently linked and can work out your average speed
between them. So, if you speed up between them and slow down as you approach them, if your average speed is over the "legal limit + No%"
threshold you may well get a ticket.

Duncan

Beautiful day in L.A.....

Blaise: Interesting dogs you found this morning. Even more interesting names. Especially that one that was born in 1974 and named Steely Dan. Hmmm, what SD album was out at that time?

Altimira: I hope your cat continues to send good vibes your way.

GE: Glad you got back ok and had a good trip. See you in chat. :-)

Lisa G: Sorry Daddy can't play no more. :-(

Good evening all....

New York City, no more....

Edd-/or anyone to view live sunset in Vancouver go to
http://www.telemark.net/cgi-shl/wc.pl

It's great to be back; I've so enjoyed reading the posts here, so clever, interesting, and entertaining, and such a change from much of the drek I've encountered on other on-line forums (fora, whatever).

Blaise, Gina, Robin, Dano, Lisa G., Midnite, Angel, SH--Thanks so much for your kind words; they're a real comfort to me.

LP--Best wishes on your trip to Japan.

Edd--I'm sorry about the loss of your cat, but I'm glad his last weeks were so pleasant. You loved him a great deal, and I'm glad you still have his ashes with you. I was going to have my kitty, Ahimsa, cremated, but I changed my mind at the last minute--I went out to the crematorium after work today and got her out of their freezer. I'm going to send her to a taxidermist; I know it sounds kind of weird, but I want to be able to see and touch her. She had such a lovely coat--brown tabby with red tabby patches; I'd like to be able to continue to admire it.

Floridavid--I'm sorry that Kasim is not doing well. Have you looked into medication for his hyperthyroid condition? Ahimsa was taking tapazole (the generic name is methimazole) for her hyperthyroid condition, and her last blood work indicated that the medicine had brought her thyroid level to the normal range. It might help Kasim to live a whole lot longer. Thanks for the kind words about the house; I'm chasing some good possibilities.

StAl- I just sent you two emails and no response yet. The address up there looks okay to me. It's the one people ordinarily use. Can't see what the problem is.

Steveedan-I'm in San Diego and friends with Bob Tedde, et al. The show Bob was talking about at the Del Mar Racetrack is in August and while it's mostly hits Bob can't resist throwing in some cool album tracks. It's always a fun show and it's FREE. Sure, let's hook up for a Steely Damned show sometime.

What a day!

Aja

ATTN: BLAISE -- please e-mail me. The address I have for you on the photo gallery isn't working.

Edd.. the last picture is actually the Moon rising. I made a mistake when posting that one, maybe that is what you mean? Or another possibility is that the picture is crooked?

eLLe....great stories about the coons. thanks! hope you do make it back there one of these days.

Edd....took some bird pics today and I have one that I can't identify....maybe you can take a look and see if you know? He came up just after the grackles left....built like a bunting, only larger....there's one pic of him with a dove in the same shot to give you a little perspective as to his size. He's not a cowbird or a grackle....I'm not sure what he is but I sure am curious!

anybody else want a shot at identifying this mystery (to me) bird, just point your browser to:

http://www.geocities.com/virginiabirder/MysteryBird.html

and let me know what you think.

an innie who's outie for the moment,
MC

Hutch: only one cure I know of for our neighbor and sometime mentor. Let's put the mu funk on RS, whad'dya say? Late June.

Roy Scam: Uh...ignore the above. How ya been, pal?

I dunno, elle. Your sunset picture shows the water sloping decidedly north (to the right when looking at a sunset).

eLLe....great pics! thanks for the link to dano's "nice tits"....they really are quite polite!

LOL! you're welcome MC
Just take a bite and fly away, trying to stay out of everyone elses way....beautiful cats
you have there too....can't believe they'd eat with Rocky! We have a little girl 'coon
that cleans up the leftovers in the feeder every night but I'd worry about letting the
cats near her....more than a few cases of rabid 'coons in this area....

yes MC I know all about the rabies in the coons back East and it was spreading acroos the US/Canadian line as well.Fortunately the gov'ts put together a program where they were dropping candy coated vaccine-filled candies from planes and helicopters for the coons, and say now that the rabies is under control..but who knows, this is what they say anyways, it's a great thing that they were doing. Coons are such cool animals. I have alot of racoon footage on video tape, from those years, as Rocky used to bring her babies every year. She was a great mother and we used to watch from the patio glass doors just about every night. People on our street used to think we were a wee bit odd, because I think most people think that coons are rodents, but they are actually related to the Panda bear. They are clean, and if you make sure that your trash cans are secured down, they are never any real problem. Except when the babies start getting bigger and start ramming the food bowl up against the window in the middle of the night, for MORE!!! NOW!!! hehheeee. I used to get up in the middle of the night to feed them, oh..for months!!!But there was one mother- we called her Runt-Mamma, who was not at all like Rocky, she was mean to her babies and we didn't knoww if she was rabid or not, we thought not since her babies were healthy. Can you believe at mating season one night I counted 16 different coons on our back deck, oh..sometimes during those times the fights would get a little noisey as well!

The reason why Jessie and Rocky are eating from the same bowl, and actually Jessie would eat with her hands, like the coons do, is because we got her in September and kept her indoors until the following May. We lived where there are Bald Eagles, bears and Cougars and dangerous for baby kittens! We had a Bald Eagle on our land as well and I have lots of footage of him/ and her and babies as well..awesome.
Jessie would watch Rocky everynight through the glass patio doors, and Rocky would watch her. By the time spring came around, I think Jessie thought Rocky was her mom, and Rocky had no beef
with Jessie, so that was, as I said , very rare.

Vancouver Island in past tense. Do you & hubby no longer live there?
No, my hubby got a job in the States, that he found on-line. First we went to Detroit for 2 years and now here just outside Portland Oregon. The company has offices all over the States and England and Europe.
I cried the day we left that place on Van. Island. what a place!!
Someday maybe we will return, who knows.
I could get used
to views like the ones you have there.
Yes, people pull over (on the road) in the summer at sundown the colours are extrordinary for sure!

Lisa- yes, thanks Jazz is my oldest cat, and my buddy. He is so in "tune" hehe; )

Edd.. hahaa very funny!!
Actually Edd water typically flows downhill, whether to the N,S,E or West. As for the bay... a bay is an ocean feature partically surrounded by land. So, obviously the bay fills up again when de tide come in. Life is a beach ; )
As for the land leaning so much up there, perhaps you've had one too many? hehee
Also it's very deceiving, Vancouver island takes a turn about mid-island, just about at Nanoose Bay/Parksville/Qualicum area
and we were facing due West, not North.
LOL yah bugger!teeehee

A nice pair of boobies...

http://www.horizon.fr/galapagos/bfb9an.html

My Fast-forward scroll of the the last few weeks made me sorry I missed some provocative discussions. I just recovered from a bout with self pity (the consensus treatment is to drink a lot of liquid and let it run its course). The problems are still there but the self pity seems to be lifting. Today's health tip: Don't take muscle relaxers unless you enjoy a drug that makes you feel simultaneously stoned and depressed.

As for the RLJ primmadonna question: I have spent much time on the lowest rungs of the show business ladder. I've played every crowd from festive screamers to living rooms full of sleeping drunks. To me, the criteria for an attentive audience is: 1) They're not screaming insults directly at me. 2) At least one person is listening to me 3) I don't need chicken wire in front of me when I perform. -- To Ms. Jones, I would say, "You are the entertainment. Get over yourself."

RS

And what's that thing about eLLe desperately trying to show us her tits? It sure sounds great and I did follow the directions but all I can see is stupid cartoon birds. Do I need special 3-D glasses or something?
I don't get it. Stop misrepresenting and please fill me in on all the free tit shots you may have in store. Of course, that includes dano's tits too, which I haven't glanced over yet but I'm salivating at the mere thought of 'em. Thank you in advance.

no, gina- i think you'd fit nicely in that kind of business! and it figures you, of all people, would even hint at validating such behavior as has been exhibited by rlj. talent is in no way an excuse to be a fuckhead.

eLLe....great pics! thanks for the link to dano's "nice tits"....they really are quite polite! Just take a bite and fly away, trying to stay out of everyone elses way....beautiful cats you have there too....can't believe they'd eat with Rocky! We have a little girl 'coon that cleans up the leftovers in the feeder every night but I'd worry about letting the cats near her....more than a few cases of rabid 'coons in this area....you speak of Vancouver Island in past tense. Do you & hubby no longer live there? I could get used to views like the ones you have there.

dano....finally got to see the nice tits thanks to eLLe....apreciate you trying to e-mail them to me again!

time to sort through todays bird pics.....ttfn

MC

I went to a Pat Matheney concert probably close to 20 years ago at Snowbird Utah. Pat and band were playing on a tent covered (but open on the sides) outside patio that probably sat about 2-3000 people. From the back of the tent you could look up the mountains and see the sunset.

It was a beautiful summer night and the the crowd was partying and chatting away enjoying the evening. The band played and it was almost like background cocktail music to the "party" happening under the tent.

About 6 tunes in, Pat stopped the music and bereated the crowd for not paying attention noting they were working hard up there on stage. About half the crowd in the back never even heard him talking as they were yakking away. They continued but the party atmosphere did as well and I'm sure they cut the set short. I suspect very few cared as the night was beautiful and the bars were open (yes, even in Utah).

See Ya in Chat...

Peace
GE

Edd-you crack me up sideways.

alti-welcome back and sorry about your kitty.

eLLe-wow, great shots--Jazzman's a cutie!

angel-now it's DaddyG's turn to stay away. He's having a hard time keeping up, so I think he'll show up only occasionally.

Gina-even though the music biz is a dog-eat-dog world, that's no excuse for anyone to treat people terribly.

Lisa G

SP spade=spade

re: eLLe

Little tits are the best, aren't they? I mean, the bigger types are OK, (I'd actually love to have a nice pair of boobies!), but the little tits are just so cute! I've been trying for a year or so to get a couple in my hand, but so far no luck.

Also, when the water in Nanoose Bay flows downhill (to the north) how does the bay fill up again? I didn't realize the land leaned so much up there. Must have something to do with being closer to the pole...

i don't expect people to understand the essence of Ms Jones, so i'm in doubt whether to bother acting up in her defense Under These Trees. and in a way i'm thankful, for it reminds me of what it is that attracted me to her music in the first place.
and it's proof of why i never bothered to try my luck in that particular business anyway ..

it's a dog eat dog thing, the monkey tweedle doo ..
who's the one to eat humble pie
who's the one to be left out in the blue

Banyan Tree Bachdad CafŽ Bow,
G.

is cheerleading at his best around here :-))

Blaise and Dano, you were the guinea pigs to something i have just discovered ...

i'd rather go for the truckdriver's mouth than the bad mouth ...

Toodles,
G.

Lengend has it that Joe Jackson, in his younger days, used to tell his audience to "shut up" if they went too wild.

Of course, I never witnessed this first hand and Jackson has seemingly changed.

Saw RLJ on last springs tour

into the second number she spied two men standing in the front row slightly stage right having a conversation. She heckled them mercilessly in front of the whole audience for what seemed like over a minute for daring to talk over her music. Asking one of them what was so important that he would like to tell everyone else about it. Granted, they were being rude, but it was focused on a little too brightly

This was the intimate tour where rlj was on acoustic or piano and accompanied by a stand up bass player

well, i DON'T having any trouble spilling it: she is on the smack again...

I know one of the sideman RLJ used on her last tour. What he told me about her I can't repeat...even here.

I know one of the sideman RLJ used on her last tour. What he told me about her I can't repeat...even here.

Tell me you are joking, this is the place L? LMFAO!!!!

MC - if you wanted you could view dano's "nice tits" @
http://www.users.qwest.net/~eagle555/nice_tits.jpg
I mean.. if you wanted.. no pressure or anything.

I have a picture up there of my Bengal-Leopard Cat-Keisha
and my cat Jessie eating out of the same bowl as the racoon-Rocky that we fed on our back porch on Vancouver Island for 3 years..now this is a rare one because the 2 are enemies.

Also I have a pic up there of some sunsets I took off our back porch..we lived sea-side.

Also I have a pic I just shot with the digi-cam, of a Mexican bluejay which hangs out with my outdoor cat-Jazzman, and yells at him "AIGHT" "AIGHT" because it has some babies and if Jazz gets too close this bird nags him to death. Also both the Jays eat his food, which is outside on back porch..we also discovered recently that squirrel does as well.

take a look if you are at all interested...
http://www.users.qwest.net/~eagle555/

yes, In Victoria BC on the Island you can see across Pueget Sound to the mountains of Seattle and of course get a great view of Mount Baker

( not that I am in any way shape of form trying to connect myself to StAL or MC)

RLJ played Chicago 3-4 years ago and a very similar thing happened. She was to play one of the best, intimate concert venues in the area, a grand old theatre from the 20s. But when the theatre is empty and no music is playing, you can faintly hear the elevated trains down the street go by. So even before the soundcheck begins, she hears an L and then calls off the show. It was rescheduled for a few weeks later at a different venue that concert goers don't tend to like as much--but no L trains. Other musicians of her stature and general fussiness play the first place with no problem.

SH - I believe what you are referring to is a taped segment of the 2001 Jazz Fest. I saw the recording trailor outside of the Jazz Tent when Al Jarreau played on Saturday and then at the Gospel Tent on Sunday. I haven't heard of a Sept. Jazz Fest, yet.

St. Al- After seeing RLJ tear her soundman a new asshole, I can imagine what the ferry horn did to her head. That story is great!

There's a funny Ricki Lee story that occurred here in Seattle a few years ago. Apparently she was playing a "Pier" concert. Seattle has a very cool venue located on a pier over the Puget Sound. Beautiful view of the city on one side, Puget Sound on the other. My personal favorite.

Anyway, as most of you know we also have a very active car ferry system. There are 2-3 (?) ferries that come into the downtown area and they're located about 1/4 mile away from the venue. Whenever these ferries arrive they blow their massive fog horns, which are quite loud. It's all part of the Seattle pier concert experience. Apparently this distraction didn't sit well with Ms (Mrs.?) Jones. The story is she stopped the show and demanded her manager tell the ferry system to stop blowing their horns. Needless to say the ferry system didn't give a rat's ass about her little concert. Shortly after she stormed off the stage for good and didn't return. This pissed off more than a few RLJ fans I'm sure.

New meaning for the word primadonna..?

Flipper....here ya go:

http://www.lpmusic.com/Pros_That_Play_LP/Players_Roster/gottlieb.html

One question, can anyone tell me more about percussionist Gordon Gottlieb?
Thanks, Ritchie

Altamira....so sorry to hear of the loss of your cat. I know from talking to you in Richmond that your cats mean the world to you. Glad you're able to find comfort in the companionship of your other cats. And we're glad to see you back here. Hope things get settled for you pretty soon.

dano....guess I just wasn't meant to see the nice tits thing. Hotmail refuses to cooperate. Thanks anyway though!

lp....have a safe and enjoyable trip!

the "how many horns r up" i mean...

i don't get it???

don't you just love the way dan lyrics are so contradictory?

a particular song chocked full of them is Barrytown

Don't believe I'm taken in by stories I have heard;
I just read the Daily News and swear by every word.

and the really interesting line

"special lack of grace"

timeless

oh the irony

buk buk how many horns r up

FloriDavid - Ok. Got the most recent "Playback" (ASCAP mag) and the boys are pictured and congratulated for grammys and rrhof on the inside cover. and the article inside says:
"Steely Dan formed in 1972 and have done nothing by the books for almost three decades..."

There's another N.O. jazzfest in September? A new digital cable arts network owned by USA Networks, called Trio, will be "bringing us a 10-hour labor day marathon of music from the New Orleans Jazz Festival". Branford Marsalis will host. Zeke? Wormtom?

Geez - sounds like I just read magazines at work all day ;-)

sh

I have never understood the anger towards "payola". The record company pays to have the song played? So what?

Someone 'splain me, please?

Shady practices there for sure. It's not clear whether this is payola per se but the story will likely have follow ups if it deserves any creedance. It's that giant Azoff guy, their old manager, I'm sure. They got rid of him (or was he "sent for"??? ;-)) not long ago and severed all ties with their old management. This might have had something to do with it. Who knows? To be continued...

proud blaisie

Becker St:I saw Ms. Jones at Jazz Fest in 90 something. I was so stoked to see her. What you described is exactly what I saw. EVERY song, something was wrong. I think she got off on it. Bringing the sound guy to her mike and chewing a bit of his left ass cheek off in front of everyone. It really took away from her show. I know she had a sound check because she ran me out of the building when I tried to sit in on it.

re: Floridavid...

My cat aja went thru the same thing with the thyroid.

The bad news: I eventually had to put her down. On the day I did it, I *knew* it was the right thing to do. I refused to try to keep her alive if doing so served only my own interests. We'd had a great 16 year run together. Like you, I came home with a little furball who lived her entire life with me.

The *good* news: According to my vet, the animals feel GREAT even though the thyroid is bonkers. Aja spent her last weeks running around the house like a 6 month old kitten. Full of energy. What better way to finish up!

She used to love sitting/laying on the speaker in front of my window watching the great outdoors. A small, hermetically sealed ceramic urn still sits there...

Good morning all....

Payola rears its ugly head
Caught this article in this morning's L.A. Times. The picture, which is not shown in the online version of the article, is a piece of a page from the Promoter's Music 'Bank' List and shows about 14 entries, including this one.

4/10 $1000 Steely Dan giant billed / received

Others on the piece of the list. Travis, Janis Ian, Shivaree, John Hiatt, Robert Bradley, Vertical Horizon, Third Eye Blind, Tracey Chapman, Dave Matthews.

http://www.latimes.com/business/updates/lat_payola010529.htm

LP: Have a wonderful trip. Will talk when you return.

Snakehips: Glad you finally connected, too bad it was not us. :-(

Blaise: I am finally getting this search/copy/link thing going. You should be proud. :-)

altamira: Sorry about your cat.

Good day all....

All the way from far Arcturus....

lp - bon voyage. don't forget your list. we'll all be disappointed if we don't get presents ;-)

jim#, cyn, dif, fez, miz ducky - nice chatting the other day. are you kids behaving? you know who you are;-)

dif - how was Ypsi?

angel, david, craigster - sorry i had to leave like that.

alti - welcome back! sorry about your cat.

sh

we're drifting
a thousand years roll by...

That was only one half of Steely Dan, of course. Here comes tommorow's steely pet o' the day:
http://users.ev1.net/~SuBali-KLM/grands/steelydn.html
Something vaguely fagenish about that one, i must admit...

Sayonara LP and don't mention Pearl Harbour while over there. Wouldn't be prudent.
Where the hell is everyone now? Or has this become my personal notepad? Is this what the Microsoft .NET is all about? Oh well...

stevie, I know you're out there... Gotcha!

Altamira-Great to see you back and good Luck with the House. I'm so sorry to hear of your Loss. Losing your Cat is something that's been on our minds here a lot lately. My boy Kasim who is 16 yrs old, started losing weight last year. After being 12 -14 LBS all these years he is now down to 6 1/2 LBS.The Vet says it's
something to do with the Thyroid.He eats like a Horse and yet loses weight. I know that soon we'll suffer the loss of our best Boy.He's had a great life since he came to us as a small ball of Fur.

LP-Have a safe and wonderful trip to Japan.

good morning gb-er's:

off tomorrow morning to follow the sun for 14 hours in flight, wow - nervous? why yes, about leaving the youngin's, the financials, and whether japan will be disappointing for hubby from when he lived there in 1983 (places change, as we all know) - but these things have a way of working themselves out, don't they - alas.....nervousness is a nasty place to be.

so, i may not be able to check in here again - things are nutty in here today getting ready to leave

alti - good to see you back, you too aja and sh in chat, well finally!

thanks flipper for taking the test in stride (blasckgirl, btw, is a character from the chat room here)

mark and nmn - lunch when i get back okay?

ge, thanks again buddy

angle, it will be great to see you next month

off to save the world and conquer it

Damn this thing! I take the time to translate a somewhat lenghty and rare Celine passage and it all goes down the drain once it's done. OOOHH... Fuck Microsoft! Computer litteracy mistaken for litteracy, I tell ya!
Anyway, it was all about idolatry and how the sleakest of surfaces hold paint the best. Whatever...
Keep it simple stupid, I guess.
Yes Gina dear, Kerouac was an handsome fella but what do you expect? After all, he was of French Canadian descent... :-)

Oh yeah... SD pet of the day, a nice Collie, a long-haired smooth fox:
http://bowlingsite.mcf.com/Century/Danny.html

Robin, Alta? Is this for real? Welcome back and please stick around. we dying ova he.

Altamira -- So sorry to hear about your cat. They are very good friends to have around and their loss can feel much worse than the loss of a human sometimes.

Congrats on the new job and you're always welcome here!

Angel , Same as you Angel seen them in the seventies and still go with close friends still , will be talking to Southside in a couple of weeks as me and my friend used to run the Southside supporters club before we all got family and things , so we still have a chat with him when he"s over here. cant wait that horn section in the Dukes with La Bamba is awsome!!!!

Altamira , Welcome back.

Gina , Yes Jack was always an intense looking guy , Just wished I met him and went on his trips accross America , Studied him at college and had visions of on the road myself. When I travelled down the East Coast of the States twenty years ago I thought I was a young JK. Now Responsibility has got a hold of me ?? But at least I have his books to keep me going??

to you Altamira .. sorry about your cat .. there's a bond between animals and humans that can be very special indeed!

looking forward reading your takes on things again :-))

toodles,
G.

Good Morning, always nice to see some lost puppy stray over here to throw up what (s)he can't digest, haha. Brat along, dear!

Dano, was a real good documentary showing on Arena last night, thanks for the tip. I rarely have a look in the TV-Guide so I never know if there are things worth watching ..
Loved the tempo, speed and little takes in between to show the Zeitgeist/ Tijdgeest .. some Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie (his name popped up again at the end when they said Kerouac died on Gillespie's birthday) Miles Davis .. and Kerouac could easily have made it into some Handsome Devil Gallery, quite a goodlooking man in his younger years ..
Ofcourse waiting if they would read some of the Naked Lunch and say the Steely Dan words, but alas .. it was nice to see the writers and hear them quote or speak .. Ginsberg, Burroughs, Ken Kesey .. Burroughs more a poet than a plain writer and i can't help but picture the liner notes on various CD's .. style related ..

Off for now, perhaps later
G.

Ricki Lee Jones played a couple of shows here Friday Night. Barking at her sound man, yelling at the spot guy and alternately shrieking in baby-talk and blabbing in a Mizarian. What a mean-spirited bitch! R.I.P.

Hi!!!!! I'm Jimmy Carl Black: I'm the Indian of the group

Hi, I'm back. I haven't had time to read the posts here because I've been on my feline lymphoma list all evening, but I look forward to reading your posts tomorrow.

I have a new job; I'm editing pamphlets about preventing youth violence for the Department of Health and Human Services.

I've been in the process of buying a house in D.C. for the last ssix weeks; I work in Maryland, but I want to live in D.C.; I love my city.

I've had a terrible loss this weekend; my greatly beloved elderly cat succumbed to cancer Saturday night (she died suddenly in my arms). Many thanks to Clas for inquiring about my cat's health. I loved that cat more than I have loved any being in my entire life; I feel like a part of myself has died. My other cats are a great help at this rough time; and I greatly appreciate becoming a part of this on-line group again. You are a wonderful bunch of people; I miss you and I'm glad to come back to your community again (if you don't mind my coming back; I don't mean to assume you'll just welcome me back--I have been gone for quite some time).

Dano: No, I did not see Southside Johnny. Craig (see post below mine this morning) had a friend who saw them last night at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park, NJ. He mentioned it in chat Sunday evening. I saw them, but it was back in the '70's.

z/x: Great report from Quebec. Jazz chops, indeed. As if they need any more. :-)

Lisa G: Glad to really have you back. Hope Daddy G drops in, too.

Midnight Cruiser: Real cool shot and it doesn't even look like a composite.

I went to a Greek Festival this evening. There was a band playing that was just fabulous. They never stopped the whole time we were there. One song leads into the next without a break. A great and unexpected experience for both my husband and I.

Back to work tomorrow, good night all....

On the beach all day....

jjflash-organ transplants are so cumbersome. Lately I've been into keyboards. Sorry you have to leave us for a spell.

Blaise-Now you talk in hyperlink? And all the while I thought it was French...

G-dot-well, I really have nothing of mine own to offer for your listening pleasure. But I have a nice choir arrangement of Corcovado in score that you might enjoy. I'm really anti-talented in the writing department. Me and DaddyG occasionally play flute and violin duets together. Today we arranged "Stand By Me" for his school weirdestra. Get this violin, viola, cello, acoustic bass, electric bass, electric guitar, 4 keyboards and scads of percussion--sixty pieces, all beginning fifth graders. I think it's an alien conspiracy. Has Rael been to the Bronx lately?

Speaking of which, we loved the series finale of Voyager. Kept me guessing anyway. And who really is the father of Scully's baby? I know I'm behind on these, but I just recently caught up to the postings.

MC-Bye baby bunting--wowie, a lot of anger for such a little birdie!

eLLe-Ooh, echinacea (sp?) sounds good right about now.
P.S. My initials before marriage were LP, too.

Off to check chat.

LGee

put up a new cedar feeder this morning during the drizzle....got a few good pics including this composite shot of the male & female buntings....kicked back behind the glass listening to Alive in America and drinking a cold Mt. Dew while snapping a few shots of my fine feathered friends....it was a good day in Danville today.

http://www.geocities.com/virginiabirder/BuntingMates.html

hope you all had a nice extended weekend....we sure did!

best "FEMALE" drummer... darling Ringo, you've always been on my list of "the best male drummers" ..right up there with Neil Peart even!!!
hubby is a BIT of a sod when it comes to myself and other men.
otherwise, he's the best.
keep smilin kid.

Sorry to hear your husband is a sod, dear. Barb says "do what you want while on tour, I just don't want to hear about it baby". And yes Sheila might be a better drummer than I ever was but *I* am in the Hall Of fame and in the history books. Life ain't fair but I have paid my dues, it's vastly documented, and I say NONONONO I can't take it no more, I'm tired of waking up on the floor, No baby please it only makes me sneeze and lalalalala find the door. Wow! I'm ready for the road, love. What do you think, hon?

eLLvis has just left the building.
Rats. China Crisis.
Wishful Thinking.
Pine over Love.

" there's a place somewhere
for the truckdriver's mouth
to bite moondust & eggrolls
go fill her up some more
& some more & some more "

That sounds wikkedly delicious love, but my hubby would mind, he's a bit.. well, you know, a bit of a sod when it comes to things like meeting men in the octopussy's garden. A clandestine affair,
is just not in the "stars" for me atm. So sorry, my darling.
Have fun on your tour and give my regards to Sheila,the worlds best female drummer..ta
and do keep making those hilarious tv commericials for the capitalists!!
ta-ra darling Ringo..or is that La-dee-dah ; )
cheers
eLLe

Oh yeah, Ian Hunter, sure... by the way, I've just recently assembled the greatest collection of has-beens the world has ever known and we're going on tour (again). We'll most certainly make it to your town this summer, me, Ian Hunter, Greg Lake, Roger Hodgson, Howard Jones, Sheila E. and someone else I'm forgetting right now... and all I have to do is act naturally, like I belong here. Dear eLLe, will you meet me, under the sea in an octopus's garden in the shade? Will you, love? Barb won't be around or anything... Meet the Beatle, baby.

Hoople, rather, lol

Duncan- Mott the Hopple?

that was a play on words with Courtney Loves' song "Malibu"

and Fall of '92 was written by Walter Becker and nominated to get sizzled onto the 11 Tracks of Whack album. But it never made it. A great song, though IMHO

actually the Malibu line is the lyrics to Fall of 92

a little voyeuristic

Name: nice link

Date: Sunday, May 27, 19101 at 16:02:25
Comments:

Then I slipped it to you sideways
Right there on the beach at Malibu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Courtney Love?
wahahaaaa

Dano allways ready for drinks but Chester-le-street is rather far away for me are you driving north by chance as I'm near the A1.

The atomic punks talk reminds me of my first gig Nov - Dec 79
Newcastle City Hall Black Sabbath / Van Halen .
(I'm a ex-metal head)
Ozzy 6-7 times over the interveining years & my cat's namesake
Van Halen monsters of rock 1984.
When my new home site's up & running think i will post all my tickrt stubbs somebody else might want to see them.

BBQ NEWS
Me & thirteen adult friends got blasted in the SUN listening to Burt Bacharach & David Bowie live.

I have a thing for live albums & just recently got on cd an old tape i once owned. Ian Hunter & Mick Ronson ''Welcome To THe Club''
What a blast to here it again after 6-7 years & Hunter's on tour soon but Linda won't go.

Saw Dean Friedman, Ray Davies. Julian Cope & John Shuttleworth this year also not many but young Dan has been curtailing some of our later nights out. (I still managed a long weekend in Amsterdam but saw no bands )

Back to work Tomorrow so messages will be a bit shorter But i'm getting better this took me only 15 Mins.

Would anybody believe I'm a graphic designer Signwrite anything for a living.

Before anybody say's anything YES we have spellcheck at work

Great week for me Great weekend to
Thank's to everbody out there .

P.S. I'm of to southern Spain in 2 weeks does anybody in UK have a laptop they could lend me (Is that sad?)

Yes I think It is
Duncan

dano....how about a URL to those nice tits? It didn't come through in my hotmail and everyone else seems to be having a good laugh!

clas....necessity is the mother of invention....amazing when we have to make do with what we have that we're able to come up with a solution to a problem....hope you got the project in on time....was that the Roland printer that was out of light magenta? it's an awesome looking unit! very nice output!

back to birding on a dreary southside virginia day

Happy Memorial Day to all.

MC

Gina - how ya doin - thanks for the shout out

Hi to all the 'newbies'

Chere - surely you mean Perthshire. Tell your mom that the hospital treatment is free gratis, and that the trains are good for all the big centres.

daaaano - good weekend?? Next season ya bass!!

Oh, nice pair of burds right enough. LO F'n L, BTW

Cheers big ears

Al

Hey Dano .. i'll be watching that Arena program as well, smallpond telewaves, right? am now sitting in at the dogshow, well, for Gaucho's sake ofcourse, he really watches tv!
and yes, the sonf was Cry, i remember now, thanx.

off now,
toodles all.
G.

Cyn- exactly
LisaG- HI there, thanks and don't forget to double up on your Golden Seal, Echinacea, garlic, and VitC.

I'm not one to look behind
I know that times must change...

don't think that I'm out of line
for speaking out for what is mine
I'd like to see you do just fine
but look at what you wear
and the way you cut your hair

hmmmmm..that's heavy I better think about the hidden maening in that one eh?

just kidding

no really

just kidding

(edit-snip)

hey dano nice tits!!!! LOL

Couldn't make the trek to the Border City for TSD -- family, Memorial Day, trial preparation and the Dodger game (thanks Marquis!) conspired to keep me in the grey of LA.

For all the UK People , Theres a good prog on tonight Arena.

About Kerouac , Ginsberg , and Burroughs.My friend works on the prod unit and said it was really sound.

Raelian Times- May 28, 2001 Quebec
"Fresh from their appearance at the Berklee School of Music, where they received honorary doctorates, the 2 members of Raely Dan made a special appearance at the opening of Clone College here in Quebec yesterday.
Messers. Brecker and Fagin received permission from the college to be third in line to be cloned this Fall, just behind Rael himself and the new college's president, Doctor Warren Kruger.
The two rock and/or roll musicians have made special provisions for their cloning procedure, both asking that their clones are to be given genetic "jazz chops", something both musicians have always wanted, but have lacked the discipline to possess. Raelian scientists, headed by Dr. Kruger, have already been visiting the gravesites of jazz musicians such as Lenny Breau and Art Tatum in order to get DNA for the process.
Mr. Fagin, true to form, wearing his specially tinted sunglasses, succintly thanked the largely Raelian audience with the words "Thanx, 'preciate it.
Mr. Brecker, rather than making a speech, opened the floor up to any questions from the audience, but backed down abruptly when former sidemen of the band rushed the stage, demanding money instead of "thank yous" and promises to be included on their next CD.
Their latest CD, 2 Against Nature/Nurture, went platinum last April."

Angel , I will be going to see Southside in two weeks , did you see him in LA. He is back with the Dukes for this tour any feedback my Angel.

Blaise , You are the top man for the url"s buddy , but how is your one eyed bedsnake ?? is it still cold after that photoshoot in Montreal??

Chere , As long as your Mother has good weather she will have a dooser of a time.

Gina , Was that record called "you dont know " or "cry" cant remember but great song anyway.

Hutch , Did you ever see 10cc when they where on tour with the big telephone?? superb, seventies I seem to remember . Great Band Mate??

Just finished Countdown , now it"s "August And Everything" Counting Crows. I am the Rain King YEAHHHHHHH

Duncan , are you up for a couple of lashes in a few weeks , I am visiting Chester Le Street??

Rake of good new people on the board lately , keep it up?? But seems to be a lot of En Ger Lish now , Come on you Sweatys where is Bad Sneekers.

Time from my vitamin C ? Or should that have been: Time for my vitamin C. Scurvey Lurviness taking over, making it hard to C, middle C, from C to shining C. I'm beginning to C the light. Oops, bumped me head on the C'ling.

C'ms eym beeing cilly.

Steveedan C.

Happy Memorial Day Everyone !!

Sorry I missed my chat friends last night. The wedding was an elegant and fun affair. The sour apple drinks were ass-kicking. I only had one and it was one too many. ThatÕs what you get for quitting partying, and then you have one little drink and all you can do is tell the truth. ItÕs treacherous territory sometimes. Anyway, I got a chance to sneak over to the grand piano during the cocktail segment of the wedding to play Deacon Blues, but most of the guests didnÕt hear it.
Later on during the dinner segment, the bride came over to me and asked me to go on up and play piano on the bandstand. Not a momentÕs hesitation on my part. I played only 2 songs before the impatient members of the wedding band gracefully showed me the ÒhookÓ. I played Brooklyn, and Deacon Blues (again) because on solo piano it is great dinner music and I figured no one really heard me do it during the cocktail segment. I got a nice round of applause. I donÕt normally repeat songs in the same evening, but the segway that I came up with on the spot from Brooklyn into Deacon Blues turned a lot of heads. You all should have been there.

The brideÕs brother-in-law Matt P., as it turns out, grew up on the east coast and went to school with and is friends with Pete Fogel. Matt too is a devout Steely Dan fan and a darn good keyboard player in his own right. He is a bit smarter than the average bear and went into television production and has done quite well in that arena, looking for houses in Malibu.

Hi Hutch Ð the ÒWest of HollywoodÓ musical moment at 5:53 in to the song is one of the many reasons why I love this band. Their attention to detail, points of style and production value is one of the signature qualities they have to offer. Yes that piano-organ morph is just one of many great treats we get from this great music. Great Òheads upÓ on the call buddy.

The one Lol Creme and Kevin Godley solo album that I have is Goodbye Blue Sky. ItÕs OK, I havenÕt listened to it in years. I saved your information about the other albums and I will look for them. I always thought that 10CC was a very funny, talented and intelligent band. Sort of like the more intelligent precursor to The Rutles, who had Neil Innes from the Bonzo Dog Band (and looking very relaxed on vibes, Adolph HitlerÉ) and Eric Idle from Monty Python. On a more serious 10CC note, the ballad ÒIÕm Not In LoveÓ continues to get covered by new artists, and ÒThe Wall Street ShuffleÓ is still relevant in todayÕs turbulent economic WWF match. Thanks Hutch. If youÕve got anything else about 10CC to tell us, I want to know it. Email me directly or put it here, champ.

Hi Aja Ð I am guessing that you live in the San Diego area. I occasionally visit with my wife and little boy. I have been checking into the Catamaran Hotel site every now and then to see when The STeely Damned play next. Bob Tedde emailed back in April to tell me that the band also occasionally plays at the Del Mar Racetrack but that the show is shorter and that the band plays more of the ÒhitsÓ because the audience is a bit different than those who would come to the Cannibal Room at the hotel to see TSD. Also, when I started to read up on the GB stuff prior to signing in, I noticed your consistent contributions and then read about your change in jobs, so knowing that you have been here for a while, I appreciate you writing to me here. Maybe I will get a chance to see TSD soon and if so I will let you know here, and perhaps we can meet in the Cannibal Room.

Blaise Ð I have to say, that your posts here are really informative and entertaining. I believe that you help to maximize the usefulness of the GB and the internet as a whole for the benefit of all of us who are interested. The ones that arenÕt interested, and tell us so, are not interesting. Yawn ! Thanks Blaise.

To W1P - as always, thanks for the due respect counselor. If you don't mind, would you tell us what songs you saw TSD play Friday night? - or just the tastier ones if not a whole huge list. I would love to know.

Well, as usual, another long letter from one of the GB's Scurvier Brothers. Time from my vitamin C - C ya later all.

Steveedan

Aja, with due respect to Steveedan, that was ME that made the Atomic Punks "rec" (along with Danger Kitty info). The Punks do play Canes quite a bit, very, very worthwhile (and if your lucky, they'll be playing with the Ozzy tribute Mr. Crowley) Blaise, are the members of The Steely Damned involved in any original music projects?

Floridavid: As always, a pleasure chatting with you last evening. LA was hot and humid last week and your music goes perfect with that kind of weather.

Craig: (AKA Guest 15) It was great to meet you last evening. I too have seen The Steely Damned play. I can't think a nicer way to spend an evening then with people who love and appreciate Dan music as much as I do, or more. Great story about the Stone Pony, too. The Boss and Southside playing together last night. Your friend was so lucky. Welcome.

Snakehips: Sorry you couldn't stay.

Blaise: Thanks for the warning. :-)

Happy Memorial Day all....

Sunshine....

Hello All-Have a great Holiday weekend.

Gina-I'm still here. Thanks for thinking of me.

Angel- Thanks for keeping Clockdrive World in the rotation.

11 whacky ways to worry the bottle and shine up the battle apple:

XI -- The catch phrase intro: "Steely Dan fan Steveedan of Steely Fan Band tribute band fame, yo!"
X -- The sneaky sideways remark: "BTW, I can slip it to you sideways on the beach in Malibu just the same. That's right up my alley, actually."
IX -- The misleading link: "Update on the ODP! http://wwww.thesteelydamned.com"
VIII -- The cross-territorial pissing: "I posted this long rant on the newsgroup, on the Digest and on my own website, enjoy!"
VII -- The Newbie anti-shield statement: "If one doesn't share a dildo, why should one be required to use a condom here? hun?"
VI -- The words of wisdandom: "Jump in, the water's warm. In fact, it's boiling... aarrgghhhh..."
V -- The silent color marker: Thanks for the link (geek)!" "Thanks for the shout out(jerk)!" Happy Birthday (gramps)!"
IV -- The "Go you one more later" dare: "You call that disruption? You call that funny? You call that original? huh... you just wait and see!"
III -- The holier than thou treatment: "I was there at Fagen's Berklee Commencement in 66, and let me tell you guys, this is nothing."
II -- The pretzel logic locutions: "If you read an offensive post, ignore it. Just scroll."
I -- The silly search query: "Toodles Googles! I can't find my goggles. Have you seen my poodle?"

Name: Mount St. Helens
Blowin' my top.....

Date: Monday, May 28, 19101 at 06:28:26
Comments:

You call THAT a disruption?

Watch and learn

POOF!

A tribute to tributes
To the tune of Van Halen's Dirty Movies
Dirty Money

Ow, yeah
Oh, oh. Oh!
La!
Now, who's that band with the Fab Four shadow-ah?
Oh oh! A "so what?" scene, but to me it don't matter
Ow! These homeys get down like you won't find in your hometown
(Oh, no!) They won't believe it when they
(Oh, no!) See what they're stealin'
Go see baby now!

Tributes on the cover scene
Greatest thing you've ever seen
Now their names are up in lights
Everything turns out all right

Daddy's little sweety's after some damned combo
Oh, oh! Got the big deal in the back of a limo, uh hey
Now show biz is so thrilling
And my bank account, it's swelling
(Oh, no!) They won't believe it when they
(Oh, no!) See what we're stealin'
Go see baby now-ah!

Hey, you remember when that gig was "prom Queen"? (Oh, wow)
Rip it off! Rip it all off!
Whooo! Ow! Woo! Aw, yeah!
Woo! Woo! Ow! Yeah!

Tributes on the cover scene
Greatest thing you've ever seen
Now its name is up in lights (Woo!)
Everything turns out all right

Now they believe it
Now that they've seen it
Go see baby now! Ah, ha-ha!
Lights, camera, action!

Special Thanks to van-halen.com for accurate, original, verbatim lyrics

No, not sonic junk

just junkyard junk

or, wait, Juke Joint Jump

As a tribute to Atomic Punk and
to the tune of Van Halen's Atomic Punk
It ain't Sonic Junk!!

I feed on victims of the silence age
The disinformed. Whoa, yes
I can't remember when I wrote a page
For me! It says no more, no noooooo
Nobody rules these geeks and quite like me
It ain't Sonic Junk!!
Oh, yeah. Ah-ah!

I am the ruler of these netting boards
Here's what I found hun, hun
On every wall and place my foursome's name is hung
Just look around. Whoa, yes

Nobody rules these geeks and quite like me
Nobody wwwhooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
It ain't Sonic Junk!!
Ahhah!

Damn...just when I was going in there to post....they close it down.

1. I am not the waitress from the RLJ site. I have big tippers at the diner, they tip me well to be just as rude a possible.

2. The only live act we have is the Saturday night gator-wrestling.

3. No RLJ, only Steely Dan on the jukebox.

4. Tonights Special...Humble Pie a la RLJ.

DOORS OPEN AT.....WHENEVER I WAKE UP, DAMNIT!
(No earlybirds, except for Midnights "mean" bunting, hes scarey and he has a big mouth, just like me)

if Maui suits the muses and inspiration properly .. on second thought skip the doubt here :-)))

Love the colourful birdies you have in the US, Edd and MC ..

Later perhaps,
Gina

The negative comment on the Rickie Lee Jones board and all responses have now been edited out, rendering my link obsolete. It's the second time this happens to me. Is anything sacred anymore? China, I tell ya.
Free Internet, dammit! Put a stop to censorship. Freedom starts with you, bla bla bla...

It's only sideshow stuff
But hey it's good enough for the Steely Damned show
Steely Damned, Steely Damned, Steely Damned, Steely Damned...

You know you're in trouble here when tribute bands get more spin than the real thing.
Nope, still no word on when The Steely Damned will come up with a new record of original material yet...
Oh you mean Steely Dan? Writing for a release of NEW, ORIGINAL material to be "recorded sometime in the fall" and targeted for the summer 2002. That's the last we've heard.

Hey cyn

Ken lervs seafood
lucious barbie on the barbie!

This band should certainly be circumsized

Johnny Pullback & the Redskins

Stuff Hot

Midnite C - great shot, bunter is "sparv" in Swedish. And hey, late last night I got the candlelight; I sat the printers setup from C lc M lm Y K 6 colors, to CMYK, 4 colors. It worked!

Yellow Stripes - thanks, confusing blue and black.

C

Obvious.

on the steely damned. i've had the pleasure.
imagine 2 hours of steely dan music.
now imagine some dude playing the drums on the song AJA in front of you. to the tee.
whew.
& i'm not even a drum player.
dynamite horns too.
peace.
c.

angel & Duncan- Interesting comments on live albums. Like you, I would have liked Alive in America to come in two CDs

Personally, I would have liked the live CD to include:

The Boston Rag
Cave of Altamira
Brooklyn
Dirty Work
Your Gold Teeth II
Black Friday

Actually, although I'm not too crazy about bootlegs, I would like to
get a copy of the concert from last year at the Post-Gazette Pavilion in Pittsburgh. If anyone knows of such and it's in good quality, let me know OK?

BTW did anyone see Blues Traveler on Behind The Music? If not,
just to let you know John Popper lost 200 pounds mostly by getting involved in a medical procedure called stomach stapling.
In other words, parts of your stomach is stapled to limit food coming in and if you try to eat too much, you regurgitate.
Of course, exercise and eating right is also necessary. However,
I see from the interview that Popper still smokes. But he looks
fit and better than ever. To reach 415 pounds and survive that
seems almost inhumanly impossible.

Gotta go. See Ya!

One word to describe The Steely Damned: wowowowowowowowow! No parody here, they are the real thing, heart, soul and style. Thanks for the rec on Atomic Punks, Steveedan, they play here about once or twice a month and I've been meaning to check them out. I love that "Danger Kitty" commercial-that's the lead singer of Atomic Punks? Too funny!

Any rumors or at least unfounded gossip on a new Steely Dan CD floating around?

Thank God for 3 day weekends. "Aja" sounds so good on a Sunday night with a glass of wine, looking out over the street from a panoramic view way up high, no alarm to set tonight. 20 foot visibility in the ocean today, if only the temp would just creep up 5 degrees or so.

Chere, Marie Laveau's grave is marked with XXX's, all over, down and around so she can see out. I swear when I stood next to it she sent word that she was working some juju for you.

Night swirl,

Aja

I did not post any Becker links today. This was clearly the work of an an amateur, darling. So I shall remain a machine until proven otherwise. Ta!

Blaise: Thanks so much for the link to the lyrics, you are a gentleman and a scholar, but not a machine. All too human. :-)

Lisa G: Yes, I will probably be around this evening, maybe 6:30P, GB time.

Duncan: Interesting comment on Alive in America. Probably true enough, but who cares. It sounds GREAT. I just wish it was 2 CD's. After Wetside Story, I got into a real live thing on Friday and Alive In America is just what was needed. I was really getting into Reelin' In the Years. Donald did a great arranging job on that one.

Hutch: West of Hollywood cool thing at 5:53. Lots of fun to listen to.

jjflash: Bye for now.

Rocks across the water....

Why does it seem the smaller the bird, the bigger the attitude? (Black-capped chickadees being the notable exception. They like everyone...)

MC - Canon has pissed me off bu raising the stakes with the new D90. (I think it's D90) 35-350mm equivalent *optical* zoom, and tons more. Damn. I'll never get one at this rate.

Oh! Oh! After waiting two weeks I spied my first ruby throated hummingbird at the nectar station this evening. No pix. I want them to get comfortable first...

http://www.mobydicks.com/lecture/SamuelBecketthall/messages/337.html

"So what the hell is Godot? Not God, or at least not as the God with a white beard
sitting on a throne among angels. Godot is an ideal. Godot is an answer. Godot is THE answer to
life. Godot is what V and E think to be the meaning of life. They want to hang themselves, twice,
because they do not see Godot and are tired of waiting. But they will never see, never know,
never realize Godot. Godot does not exist, at least tangibly. The two are inactive because
they believe they can have no meaning except "to wait for Godot." Ironically, I feel it is
just this waiting that ensures their life has no meaning. It's circularity is frightening,
just like the play's. If this play truly is existentialist- or views man in a state of the universe
seen as purposeless and irrational, then I think we see the blunder in V and E's waiting. What are they waiting for?
To them, it's an answer, a goal, a purpose. But there is no answer- so please guys: just f-in' live, throw off
your hats and sing me a song that was a hit before your mother was born!!

I hope this does someone who's stuck on a paper some good at all."

Joe
andolina@princeton.edu

well, how many of us can say they have or had name-alikes i wonder ..

haha, the Steely Pan duo was funny as well, Blaise oh Master of The Search Engines LOL

and that pet named Steely Dan ..
he's got the right obscure look, right? no way one can read his eyes :-))

and Who Cares? should we get MC's Bunting to tickle you until you drop laughing and release the happy bird hidden inside aching to get out? "care" is a verb in need of refreshment sometimes. i like the idea of other Walter Becker's in the world, a company, some other people, a realtor looking slightly like the actor from that old tv-series in which Larry Hagman aka JR plays this Marsian .. not George Burns but another one of those "oldtimers" .. or am i mixing things up now ..

i appreciate life the most when not in the middle of things but taking a few steps back and contemplate, think about it and a zillion other tidbitties. it's what comes to mind that can make me feel alive or happy or blessed. i found this neat booklet that has some prose poems by Pablo Neruda, The House at Isla Negra and it's an american issued booklet, by White Pine Press. the treasure of second or maybe even third hand things/books is the items may have made the weirdest journeys to finally end up at some garage sale or flee-market in some "backward" town, really .. where you least expect you can find the most valuable collectables. the eye of the beholding finder ofcourse :-))

society is creating these huge callous shells around people's hearts and i don't think we should give in to that.

"turn the beat around" as the Miami Sound Machine sings.
speak of, where's the GB's own "MSM" Floridave??

i'm fed up with most of the random negative floating around this globe. unless someone has no valid reason for ranting on or lash out at something/someone, i say no mercy and kill it with kindness!!!

Banyan Tree Who's Leaking On The Firewood Bow
Gdot

garlic is addictive. when i wake up in the morning i feel exhausted and tired but when i open the jar of garlic cloves on olive oil, i suddenly feel alive & kicking again.
it's a happy tuned vegetable/herb for sure.

Then I slipped it to you sideways
Right there on the beach at Malibu

Who cares? That's exactly what I thought, buddie. Walter Beckers are a dime a dozen, Gopher. Problem is folks, Gopher is inexperienced at this game, a web debutante at best. Anon, with all undue respect, pardon the error of his/her ways for he/she is merely learning.
Lesson numero uno:
BTW, great thing about links, they don't take too much space and if you don't feel like going where they lead, you just don't go. It's convenient like that. that's why the accompanying one-liner comment often comes in handy. The customer can make a more or less informed choice of content based on this info and of course a rapid calculation of cost/benefits of investing the actual time and effort involved in maddening cut and paste maneuvers. There is no need to hard sell or target a specific audience, free Internet! And lastly, if it doesn't fit, you mustn't submit.

Time to call it a weekend.It's been nice meeting you all,and very informative.It'll be weeks before I even get to look at this site again.I'd love to leave you with some profound song line,but you've bested me with all the SD references.
How about guessing the origin of this one:
....And God said"Look after the planet".and man said "fuck you"

So what, their are other people in the world named Walter Becker. Stop wastimg our time with those stupid ass links!

And of course, Gina was talking about this particularly biting diss of Rickie Lee Jones and her attitude on tour. Worth a look:
http://rickieleejones.evryware.com/cgi-bin/bbs/bbs_forum.cgi?forum=open&read=003999-000000.msg&session=3b117ad71d1f019f&first_date=

|o

Nice Flash for your website bid for sure:
http://www.gettinguonline.com/steelydan.html

Pet of the day named Steely Dan
A Llama, it's direct from Lhasa:
http://www.ultimatellama.com/sdan.htm

Broken promises of a cool interview with Jon H. from last tour, nice pictures nevertheless:
http://www.onlineva.com/ofbmag2/herington.html

ODP variation of the day:
http://www.steely-dan.com
This is really a green org site that uses celebrity names for its activism purposes but the message board you'll find is alive with people buying into it and addressing the band directly. It's alive!

Lisa G, it's getting to the point where i'm embracing hypertextuality so much, I might stop writing directly here and just link my comments. It's getting there...

http://www.broberg.pp.se/wb_samplers.htm

http://www.bcpl.net/~wbecker/beck1.html

http://mbendi.co.za/orgs/ccen.htm

http://home1.gte.net/tootsie5/heritage/fam00050.htm

http://www.becker-triftern.de/

Listening to 11TOW

Lifted this from the bruce website
brucespringsteen.net
Any body know who's talking & what about
I think the named hould be named .

.............................................
'' live albums. Once upon a time they were a staple of rock 'n' roll, an art form unto themselves -- the Allman Brothers' Live at Fillmore East, The Who's Live at Leeds, Jimi Hendrix's Band of Gypsys, the Woodstock soundtrack.

Now live albums are neatly fixed, shined up, planned out, greatest-hits set. They're cleaned up in the studio, overdubbed and sweetened. One engineer joked that the only thing live on Steely Dan's Alive in America album was the applause from the crowd. Most record labels don't even count live albums as fulfilling an artist's contractual obligation. It's filler; it's a throwaway''

...............................................

Bloddy hell I'm planning my twin brothers going away BBQ tomorrow & it's sterted raining here in NE England
:( Duncan

Just had to post this one taken about an hour ago. Don't look if you're not interested!

http://www.geocities.com/virginiabirder/MadBunting.html

first time I've seen a bunting with attitude.

taking this break from entertaining 5 month young dog and working=writing. went over to RLJ's board and had angry people all over me, haha. she had this gig that went bad, according to the waitress anyway who posted and complained about the bad tips and how she needed them because she only gets paid $3.00 an hour.
it was amusing and i posted likewise, even something about the Rude Waitress we have here LOL. apparently that annoyed some other people and suddenly there's this political thing, about liberals etc etc
anger's such a silly emotion if you get to think about it, isn't it?

so nice to fly my carpet over here and see LisaG's graced us with her presence!!! would have loved to see your face glow of pride "your" kids were doing fine, Lisa. and take your time on that tape, no hurry .. would love to hear some more of your own work, so if that can be arranged somehow?? do you and your Daddy G work together sometimes, been wanting to ask that ...

it was fun reading all who were present!!!
Hutch, have always liked Godley & Creme and that video with the faces changing, can't remember the songtitle though ..

Banyan Tree Ballistacoustics Bow,
G.

To Steveedan:You're a busy man.Very impressive.Living in rural Nova Scotia I have to take what comes our way or spend mucho moolah to fly somewhere.
To lisa G:tissuetyping? Forensics or organ transplants?LOL
To St.Al:Was looking at your fav's and was surprised how similar our tastes are,although I've never heard Phish.What I have heard has compared them to The Grateful Dead and I never was a Deadhead,so...
If you haven't heard Hiatt's latest Crossing Muddy Waters it's good but very short(1/2hr or so) and no drums.
My favorite Zappa piece is Sofa off of "live in New York".makes you wanna spread your arms,lift your face and murmur "take me".A version of Black Page is on the same album that I can follow(New York Disco version).Some of his instrumentals are way over my head.
To Angel:After Oleander's Fever Dreams,there's so little to talk about for a country boy.Chances of seeing SD are slim and the next offering will probably take another 10 years.Be careful what you wish for....Thanks again.
Has anyone heard of the now defunct Canadian band Rough Trade?Carol Pope has had her autobio out for about 6 months.

Lisa G....Opti's doing great. Thanks for asking. They did it laproscopicly (sp?) and other than being a little sore, she's doing pretty much what she wants to. Good to hear from you again. Hope the cold gets better soon. NyQuil and sleep should help.

Clas....very nice printer you have there! I had seen some of the pics on your webpage of your setup. Very impressive indeed. Hope you can get the job done on time tomorrow morning.

taken over 100 bird pics so far today....really busy on the feeders! off to take some more while they're still active....you've gotta love a good digital camera....just shoot anything you think might look good and only keep the good ones with no worries of wasted time and money on film & processing....then, just a little punching up in Photoshop and you've got great prints!

back to it.....catch y'all later this evening perhaps.

MC

K stands for black instead of something like "B" because "B" designation would indicate "blue" and confuse color separators and color film strippers.

Midnite Cruiser - THANK YOU! I need good luck now. First thing in the morning I have to get the Light Magenta from my retailer. Then I have four hours to finnish the work. Pretty exciting stuff.

My printer are a six-color variant;

CMcmYK - Cyan, Light Cyan, Magenta, Light Magenta, Yellow, Black... why the hell is K standing for black?

Anyone?

C

Omg.

Just dropping by to say hey to all. I've been away too long. Geez, I almost missed the month of May completely.

Anyway, my kiddie concert was last week and it took me this long to recover from the prep and the let-down of it being over. Almost a month's work in OT, but all so worth it. All I can say is my arrangements worked! There were five groups to manage in the concert and all performed pretty well. My violinist group was a favorite ensemble and will be sorely missed as the kids are moving on to the middle school next year. A pleasure to teach them.

z-really that was your school in the news? Hey, I know a celebrity!

Lady B-welcome back indeed. Sorry I haven't e-ed ya, proper. Been way busy but did manage a few replies to folks. Also I hope your mentioning of coming out is indicative of your getting my band sched. Really sorry we missed out on seeing you last weekend. I was on stress-overload. Hope things are getting better with you.

Welcome all and sundry in the newbie department. Had a few e-exchanges with our new Stevee. Looks like we have a mess of stuff to talk about in the future, bro.

lp-Happy Belated Anniversary to you and yours. Cute that your eight-year old was disappointed about no party. I think it's neat to celebrate the traditionally "not-so-big-years" as if they are indeed big. Every year is big in my book. Check your e-mail for a request to be on your list. No not that one, the other one--LOL. And keep those funnies coming. I accidentally deleted the MSWord one so I couldn't send it to work to open it. Could ya send it to me again?

MC-how is your dear Opti doing in her recovery? Both my brother and my mother had that op. Brother had a tough time but Mom did better than she does with everything else in life.

eLLe-How ya doing, Lady? Keep up your strength and optimism in regards to your son. Indeed a senseless incident. I'm sure you're thankful every day that he's still with you.

Aus-how's the new job going? Hope all is well with you and Babes. Give Chere our best.

YGK-what's new on the horizon for you? Aus mentioned something. We should do that double date soon.

steviedan-I hope your job situation allows you to play out more--when one door closes, a better one opens. Good for you to get out when they offered you crap.

Gina-Girl, you never let us down with your writings. Wow. Been thinking about finally returning your music sharing gesture. Watch for a tape to come your way soon. You play it co-ool... Doggie kisses to Gaucho.

angel-my guardian dear. Sorry I've been absent. Thanks for shouting out to me weekly. Nice to feel loved! Will make a try for chat tonight, but no promises. Have a lot of home and family obligations that have bee ignored as well as this GB. In the meantime, e-mail is a beautiful thing.

Blazer-you're such a presence here--read you every day like the keeper of the site or something. Thanks for the links.

caramia-sorry we missed you in NYC. I was totally out for the count. (See above.) Hope you had a groo-vay JB time, swiss and all.

Howard-dear, dear Howard. Planning on tackling those new changes you posted. I'm cutting, pasting and archiving as much as I can. Just need some brain time to get on these things. Been preoccupied with job. In fact, it's been months since I sat down and transcribed anything.

To Clas, et al--stopped by the Guitarist Workshop on my way home the other day looking for a band method book, and what should I see? Steely Dan songbooks out the grand wazoo. Two in tab and three in keyboard format. TvN was there and the songbook you unfortunately left in NO. Tempted to buy, tempted to buy. Decided to wait--will be supporting a mortgage soon. But reading your posts make me wish I had laid the money down, already.

Wow. My brain is fried from a weekend of catching up. Not to mention I have a stupid cold now, so I'm sleeping alot. Tissues, typing, tissues, typing...Laundry be damned! I'm posting--yes indeed.

Anyway, to all I may have missed in greetings, HEY!!!!!!!!!! Missed you guys. But my aim got lots better.

Love, Sneezes and Danification,
LG

eLLe?

Pandemonium

Even stranger theme New York New York
The straighter the arrow
Hand me a Creme Baguette

Lee God

Camera Obscura

How would you know the other post is not the real aa?
Do we have a confession coming today?
hmmmm........?

yes, magenta....as in CMYK.

CMYK is to printing as RGB is to CRT's.

MC in VA

Magenta?

Clas....yes, it's "pin shot"....good luck with the light magenta crisis.

i guess that would be DOWN there, yes?
i've gotta stop hanging by my ankles while reading the guestbook...

that was a fake aa post up there.
let's not resort to worshipping false idols...

Midnite - it's "pin shot" isn't it?

C

I have a deadline tomorrow. And the inkjet screams;

"light magenta empty! -PIP PIP- light magenta empty! -PIP PIP-"

And it's Sunday today. Holy shit.

---

Blaise - thanks for the link. Now I remember this stuff with herr Carlsson and Bill Champlin. And it's Cheiron, of course.

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I used to diss ABBA at the time, but now they seem pretty close to masters comparing to this stuff.

Going back to frustration,

C

Steveedan...."pink shot"? that's a new one on me....I used to think it was "picture" and later found out from www.kissthisguy.com that it was "pin shot"....check oleander's excellent site for more on lyrics and lyrical interpretations at:

http://home.earthlink.net/~oleander1/Index.htm

getting lots of good bird pics this weekend!

aa - yeah right...

Anyway, Hank and Steveedan - Ever heard any of Lol Creme and Kevin Godley's solo albums? There's one called "L" and another titled "Snack Attack". I checking amazon.com a few minutes ago and lo and behold they've reissued a double cd with "L" and another one called "Freeze Frame". I've been waiting a long time for "L" to be put out on cd. Their solo stuff has a great Zappa-esque quality to it. Very sardonic biting wit.
I'm rushing over to Tower when I finish this!

Okay. Here's one for ya... At 5:53 on West of Hollywood during Potter's solo listen to the way the piano morphs into an organ as the chord is being held out. This is one of the things I always liked about D&W's production values. Blending instruments perfectly. Like on the horn/guitar hook on Jack of Speed. Becker's getting the perfect mid-rangey tone to blend with the horns. It's ear candy of the highest degree.

A big welcome to Duncan, Bill Ward, Flipper and jjflash and any other new folks I might have missed.

Track list from "L" ...

The Sporting Life
Sandwiches of You
Art School Canteen
Group Life

Punchbag
Foreign Accents
Hit Factory/Business is Business

Anybody summoned me back here?
Be careful what you wish, it might not come true (think a while on this one)

aa

Well, "shut", why don't you just summon those folk you find so intresting back in here?

I don't think eLLe, angel or I give a rats ass (do ya, girls?) if you find us intresting or not. We are not here for your personal approval or entertainment.

dif and rival...sorry about the disruption..bad storm came thru, lots of thunder and chain lightening.

fezX....GET the shrimp offa Barbie! You know Ken hates seafood!

Back to you Phil, for the traffic and weather update....

And of course the same goes for this other swedish fellow:
http://www.tonos.com/app1/about/jsp/hitmakers_max.jsp

Clas - http://www.wcmnordic.com/nordic/songwriters_creative/songwriters/Carlsson_Andreas.html

So I have to picture this guy writing these songs and not these other five boys hanging out and crying in unison "show me the meaning of being lonely" surrounded by screaming pubes and pre-pubes alike.
Makes more sense. I pictured him an old and wise, bearded studio swami but he kinda looks like a Backstreet Boy himself, eh? In fact, I bet this guy will come out with his own smash record in a minute and a half from now. I'd rather have him around than Celine Dion or these other boys, I must admit. Britney's alright, I don't mind seeing her...
And so the Swedish mafia thrives secretely in the record industry, very interesting. To be continued.
Donald Fagen recently compared our era with the early sixties and the teeny bopper pop acts of the times. Let's hope he's right and we dive into the late sixties revisited real soon.

chile'!!!

angel, if you're talking about nakednews.com, I think they make good use of banners in their broadcast too. Victoria and Holly, the head anchors, do hold their own quite well, imo. :o)

Was someone serious about that music question which Flipper mentioned in his post: What's "the chord change at minute 2:08 in Peg"?

I'm listening to it right now on Windows Media Player here in the computer. At exactly 2:08, the guitar solo is winding down (just before the verse that starts off: "I like your pink shot") and the chord is the "C-C G" groove that starts off each verse.

This couldn't be a serious test question. It sounds like the 2:08 was randomly arrived at because this "C-C G" groove is the central and basic motif in Peg. A question like this is far to elementary for a serious Steely Dan musician fan, man.

I call 'em as I see 'em, and if I don't see 'em, I make 'em up !!

Stevee (George Carlin) Dan, Sittin' on his can, Man

Any dan fans intending coming Down Under...The land of OZ......Future World........New Frontier........ love to catch up and have a Fosters! Maybe put a shrimp on the Barbie?

The Fez

Any dan fans intending coming Down Under...The land of OZ......Future World........New Frontier........ love to catch up and have a Fosters! Maybe put a shrimp on the Barbie?

The Fez

How do you circumcise a whale?

Send down four skin divers!
The fez

Circumsition?

No skin off my nose!

The Fez

Chalk up circumcision as another one of those wholly "human" eccentricities. I suspect neither apes nor dolphins would be interested in learning those skills from us but I've been wrong before...

Tang,

SEMB

Those talibans need to be wiped out period. They are evil, male chauvanist pigs. They need circumsition........ there whole heads lobbing off.Who would want to be a female in that god forsaken place.
Exterminate the talibans and then start again.
Get the women and kids listening to Steely Dan and Afghanistan might get somewhere.
Can't stand oppression.
Do it with The Fez on
May the force be with you............. that is alliance supporters.
The Fez

Ed Beatty - ah, that's just a line I picked up from John Le CarrŽs "The Constant Gardener". No worries man, I just tried to apply it somewhere, you said something about the lacking of intelligence and wit... :) (hey, really, I don't get it myself)

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Blaise - no, they didn't sell out the rights of the songs. Cherion-studios, that's the name of the mob. I think they've split now.

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Inspired of the Becker-talkings I listened to the first song on 11 TOW, "In case you're wondering...". Great stuff, great voice, great bassline. And in this case I don't mind the drummachine. These songs are really sketchy, but it's like looking at Michelangelos sketchbook.

C

heh heh...

The Truth has an extremely limited understanding of the English language (or maybe its NBA basketball the Truth doesn't understand).

Hello one and all --

Thanks to W1P for the endorsement. It sounds like the Steely Fan Band and the Dr. Wu band would definitely make the team. The question is would either SFB or Wu be starters, or would they be on the bench. Obviously, The STeely Damned (I think that's how lead singer Bob Tedde told me to "spell" their name - with the T after the S in STeely also capitalized)would be the Shaq-Kobe players. And this is what I heard. Did anyone hear Shaq calling Kobe the best basketball player in the world? High praise from someone so large in stature don't you know?

From what I've heard The STeely Damned band might just be the best Steely Dan tribute band in the USA and maybe the world as well. It's always good to have something or someone to look up to. Sort of like looking up to Shaquille O'Neil.

But again "thank you" to W1P for what sounds to me like his take of both the SFB and Wu bands is that they do not "suck". Comforting words, I can tell you, Mr. Dan.

I have "cracked the code" on the "inside" sonorities of the clavinet parts in the songs (sorry can't mention them -- you know set lists are confidential) in Dr. Wu's set, found some interesting clavinet patches in my "vintage" keyboard gear, and have already started to piece together the clavinet parts and am making them work. It might be hard to believe, but I now have to stop working on the music. The wife wants me to watch a rented movie now (9 PM). It's a small price to pay, after all, she has given me permission to play with the bands.

So that's it for now. I wish you all a great evening, and a pleasant tomorrow.

Steveedan

For those who are disgruntled with the current administration and dread cashing those nicotine-stained refund checks this summer, please send your $300 or $600 checks to our Charity Center. E-mail me for details Keep in mind we are tax deductible.

We have two on-going most worthy causes:

1. In order to reduce the incidence of the ''freshman hazing" at Berklee that includes subjecting the beanied lads to dingy off-campus recital rooms with out of tune, upright pianos fitted with malfunctioning keys that turn a Diane Warren standard into a mu-filled Zappafest [pause for breath], we wish to bequeath Berklee one el grandZÿ piano named Fagenmeister within a graphite and glitter room. In fact, send in your projected refunds over the next 10 years.

2. My Children's Miracle Network. This is your chance to fund educational opportunities for the 2 young sprouts most likely to program with compassion and vision creating an environment most fitting for our nascent Berklee students. Again, multiple titheings...er, givings are encouraged as it will be a Miracle if their father is able to afford them college room and board at this rate. Pictures are available of the desparate but spry lad and lassie for our more generous sponsers...

Well, the law is after me and I must off to the Gray Havens for hob-nobbing with my fellow wizards for a while. Galadriel and Kirschwasser. Happy journeys this season!

Name: shut

Date: Saturday, May 26, 19101 at 10:44:40
Comments:

Place has gone to shit b/c interesting people like Kinky, ballah and aa have left with
only the boring chatter of people like elle, cyn and angel to replace it, along with the
occasional interesting side commentary like this
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

LOOK WHO's TALKING EH?
Cyn and Angel, you aren't boring, you're lovely..
me on the other hand ..I have a mouth like a truck driver sometimes, but I'm not THAT bad.
and girls..those people who are saying stuff like this, we all know that what they say is just a mirror of what they really are.
sad, really..
love
eLLe
: )

Hank: Thanks for the link. I had visited it about a year ago and forgot some of what was on it. Instant gratification and truly appreciated. Beats Amazon.com, that's for sure.

Gina: I agree with you on Fall of '92. It definitely would not have worked on 11 TOW and I am sure that is why it is not there. That is one very bluesy tune. Medical Science, on the other hand, fits perfectly. Why don't we have it on our copies?

Do you think the boys were subtly trying to say something by playing "Do it Again" at the RRHOF ceremony. Very funny listening to that dance track combining Billie Jean and Do It Again. Would have worked just perfectly, that evening. :-)

Steveedan: Good luck with your possible gigs. Hope to see you there.

Night all....

There's fire in the hole....

I think what WIP is trying to say in the post below is that The Dr.Wu band and the Steely Fan band can't "hold a candle" to The Steely Damned.

I think DW and SFB can "hold a candle" to TSD, but I as I once wrote in the GB, the analogy is like DW and SFB being like Horace Grant and Rick Fox whereas TSD is like Shaqkobe. However, on further reflection, I'd say its more like TSD being like Shaqkobe whereas DW/SFB are like Darius Miles. Take as much peril as you'd like. Saw Atomic Punks (DLR Van Halen trib) and Fireball (Deep Purple trib) last night -- word to the wise, I don't care if you DETEST Van Halen, metal and/or David Lee Roth -- if you EVER get a chance to see the Atomic Punks, take it -- the singer is better than David Lee Roth ever hoped to be (and a lot more fun). Oh, have you seen the Discover Card "Danger Kitty" commericals? (You know, the washed up 80s hair band that ends up playing a bar mitzvah -- ran during the Super Bowl?) Anyway, the singer in that commercial is Ralph, the singer of the Atomic Punks.

Hello all in Dandom. I heard from the esteemed Aussie today by phone and we have plabns in place to hook up tomorrrow. He wanted me to tell everyone here HI and he sends his love. I am looking forward to it, and hopefully they will get some sun tomorrow, poor things he and the Babes have had to do the raindrops just like the rest of us in Fl. They need some o dat "Sun Kissin" you know the kind that "glisten"?

Daddy died one month ago yesterday. My mom, my sister, her husband Nithin, my Cuban Breeze David and I are all still in shock. That is a really tough thing to shake off. You can't it sort of makes you just go through it like having a bad fever. A sad fever. I hope you all are fine and smiling and I saw that you met Dr. Fat Sack. I spoke to him in chat and recruited him to have a go of the Gb. Did he stick around? He seemed to really dig the Dan.

Dano- My mom is going to Blackcraig Castle for the "watercolour travel book workshop". It is in Pirthshire. Looks pretty magnificent from the pictures I saw on the web at Jill@ladyjill.com. I truly hope it is a healing experience for mommy. She got herelf some sweatpants and shirts and a good coat and boots. If you have any othe suggestions as for making her travel as easy as possible please pass on the info to me so I can get it to her. Anything that simplifies a trip like this for two women on a painting gig, traveling, local hospital (Mommy is sick and that's alot of travel) etc. Many thanks Mi Lord.

So I send messages of love instant karma and of course a good beat of JUJU to pulsate in your brain. it sort of goes Rumba rumba rumba be de de dop dop and then fades into the begining of Boston Rag. JUJU is some amazing stuff huh? I am with you all in spirit and please forgive me for not being as consistent here these days. It has been hard to look beyond the mist that lies between the worlds. I am still there waiting for message or explaination... something.Court went pretty well on Wednesday hopefully I am approved for all of you who so sweetly have kept up with that part of my liffe. much love and respect, Chere th Soulflower, JUJU chile' YEEEEEEEAHHHHH!

Hello all in Dandom. I heard from the esteemed Aussie today by phone and we have plabns in place to hook up tomorrrow. He wanted me to tell everyone here HI and he sends his love. I am looking forward to it, and hopefully they will get some sun tomorrow, poor things he and the Babes have had to do the raindrops just like the rest of us in Fl. They need some o dat "Sun Kissin" you know the kind that "glisten"?

Daddy died one month ago yesterday. My mom, my sister, her husband Nithin, my Cuban Breeze David and I are all still in shock. That is a really tough thing to shake off. You can't it sort of makes you just go through it like having a bad fever. A sad fever. I hope you all are fine and smiling and I saw that you met Dr. Fat Sack. I spoke to him in chat and recruited him to have a go of the Gb. Did he stick around? He seemed to really dig the Dan.

Dano- My mom is going to Blackcraig Castle for the "watercolour travel book workshop". It is in Pirthshire. Looks pretty magnificent from the pictures I saw on the web at Jill@ladyjill.com. I truly hope it is a healing experience for mommy. She got herelf some sweatpants and shirts and a good coat and boots. If you have any othe suggestions as for making her travel as easy as possible please pass on the info to me so I can get it to her. Anything that simplifies a trip like this for two women on a painting gig, traveling, local hospital (Mommy is sick and that's alot of travel) etc. Many thanks Mi Lord.

So I send messages of love instant karma and of course a good beat of JUJU to pulsate in your brain. it sort of goes Rumba rumba rumba be de de dop dop and then fades into the begining of Boston Rag. JUJU is some amazing stuff huh? I am with you all in spirit and please forgive me for not being as consistent here these days. It has been hard to look beyond the mist that lies between the worlds. I am still there waiting for message or explaination... something.Court went pretty well on Wednesday hopefully I am approved for all of you who so sweetly have kept up with that part of my liffe. much love and respect, Chere th Soulflower, JUJU chile' YEEEEEEEAHHHHH!

Hi again all --

To JJFlash - The Steely Damned is playing at the Catamaran Hotel in San Diego, California at one of the hotel bars called the Cannibal Room. I have not seen these guys yet. Bob Tedde is the lead singer (possibly the band leader). This band played at a famous New York City bar called Le Bar Bat after the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony held this year in NYC. I started reading the posts in the GB just after this band played there and everyone said that they were fantastic. They have a large band and they are SERIOUS BUSINESS to be sure.

I play in the other 2 southern California based Steely Dan tribute bands, the Steely Fan Band and soon I will do 2nd Keyboard duties for the Dr. Wu band. From what I have heard from W1P, neither of these bands hold a candle to The Steely Damned. I am looking forward to seeing them, but I can't go tonight. I hear only fantastic things about them, so I can't wait to fit it in my schedule and go see them.

And talking about the Dr. Wu band ... I was asked to handle clavinet parts for a few of their songs and in preparing for this task I have found that I had to listen to these songs in an entirely different way. And the clavinet parts are very "inside" so it is a challenge to my ear (which never sleeps) to get the parts down accurately. My goal is to be ready within a few days so that the rest of the wait time is review. I'll let y'all know how it goes.

Your faithful "SD Trib Band" correspondent

Steveedan

go
http://www.stealydan.com/
and watch yourself and your browser go berserk.
But read this first, by all means:

Donald's voice, Gina! Do we have to draw The Mam'zelle out once more to testify here? hehe
re: Fall of '92... yeah... and "slipped it to her sideways on the beach..." that does bring up interesting imagery for sure.

Techno Gina? urgh but it's all in the ear of the beholder as you so rightly point out. I think Fagen's voice is divine (ok, at times then, and with a lower case d, but still...). It's the centerpiece of this whole Steely concept, imo.

Clas - I'm just wondering 'cause the songs these Swedish ghostwriter dudes wrote were all top ten (if not top period) in the last year or so. That's the equivalent of a half-dozen top selling acts in terms of royalty. I wonder if they signed out the rights to the songs to the boy band management before these were marketed. Pro-Tools and songwriting software goes a long way these days, it seems. Too bad they appear to be stuck on the sappy love ballad preset, the one that obviously works wonders with the teenage female population. It's the Beatlemania Button or something.
Have a nice weekend everyone and drive carefully on this superhighway. hehe

It amazes me the places you people have been to see SD!I've only seen them once(92).
WIP:Couldn't I have just a little bit of peril?

Although my hippocampus has been literally flooded with deludin since I've made the move up to Quebec to join Doctor Warren Kruger and the Raelians in the long wait for the Mothership and my imminent cloning, I have just recalled an interesting discovery I made in my former job as an inner-city high school music teacher that might have something to do with those two Raelians against nature's lyrics.
Some idiot made the mistake of sending his resume to the school's music director (me), and after reading it and finding out that the job applicant had more time in the system, heavier professional experience (he claimed to have worked with Duke Ellington and Stevie Wonder), and more experience as a teacher than I had, I tore it up and threw it out.
However, this guy claimed to have played a Broadway show called "Living On Gospel Time" back in the 70s and, despite my usual deludin haze, I instantly made the connection with that song from their latest CD ("Almost Catholic"?), and filed it for further reference in what is left of my brain.
Well, I guess the shock of going from NY to Quebec has shaken it free and I'll leave it to my many fellow Raelian friends on this GB to decipher this "clue", as it were.
Although some of you may attribute this recent change of lifestyle to my admitted deludin addiction (Dr. Warren Kruger always manages to find the best stuff, Rael bless him!), joining a cult is nothing new for yours truly.
Some of my former "families" have included the Scientologists, the Unification Church, The Family (formerly the Children of God)and many other UFO cults, so I know how to play the Raelian game.
These groups alternated with countless mental hospitals, support groups (the Otterhound support group and the HFTCI being the latest), and other places of refuge for a free spirit such as myself.
So, yes, I am back to getting laid regularly- every hour a new partner, of indeterminate gender, race or even humanity(I think we can all guess who thought up this "Blindfold Therapy")and I am enrolled as a full-time student in Clone College and am slowly moving up the cloning waiting line oops! I better stop here...

Lifelong Dan fan. Finally saw them: Y2K tour @ Mansfield, MA. In the process of finishing Brian Sweet's book, "Reelin' In The Years".

I would love to find a copy of Woody Herman's "Chick, Donald, Walter, and Woodrow".

well, i'll admit it's Tribal Tech instead. To those guitar-freaks among the crowd here, their music is bubbly and listening to Rocket Science now jogs why i liked them in the first place ... it's that incredible bassline ... what a spineline!!!

yep, 11 Tracks of Whack offers an opportunity to escape the world Walter Becker puts in between the brackets of his creative mind ... i listened to Fall of '92 and although i truly like the song i think i understand why it's not on 11TOW. i love the part where the melody-line sung by Walter totally rubs against the rhythm and still has this sense of control. definitely a composition with multiple layers and apt to be in repeat mode :-))
Walters's voice has matured, I heard him sing in Rotterdam and was amazed because he sounded a lot better than on the album, less casual and less in between "everywhere but there".
Donald's music, unintentionally perhaps, designed to be popular and no wonder it's in nonstop music programs on the radio ... I.G.Y for instance is ...
But their partnership is all the more intriguing.

would still loved to have been there when Donald played in some obscure place, semi-incognito. as was stated here once or twice ... and will check out the blind guitarist he recommends ...

no saying if it will be a Sundaze tomorrow,
Dano, TWMan, smallpondfriends ... where art thou?

Banyan Tree Heavy Tech Going On Bow,
G.

Angel:thanks for pointing me in the right direction.Fever dreams is exactly what I've been looking for for decades,only I've spent the last hour or so there and it's too much like candy.I don't feel so good.
Roy.scam:Mouthy legs is how I hear it too,and it sounds much better.Wonder if D&W would revise?
Anon:Yeah it's a "limp handle" but it's a throwback to my videogame days and my obssession with the Stones.Speaking of obssession.....
WIP:I noticed Steely Damned were playing(in SoCal?).Do they play with reverence or parody(no just guitar and keyboards,thanks).Let us know how they were.
Re:D&W solo work
I think Don's stuff is more thought out,deeper.Both his albums have themes to which the songs relate in some way,especially Nightfly.You really get a feel of the cold war era;all the references(I.G.Y.,bomb shelters,Tuesday Weld)
Walt certainly gets his groove on on 11TOW(my favourite is surf and/or die).What disappointed me was his use of the rhyme"Golden boy/Pride and joy"in 2 different songs.Slack not whack.Picky I know but I'm a word man primarily.

Clas,
for what its worth,can you clarify your comments?

"Ed Beatty - right on Joey, don't let your ignorance stand in the way for your intolerance."

huh?

The One In Pink, go get 'em tiger, grrrrrrrrrrrrr

Duncan, I was only kidding but there's some truth in it, too many females babbling like shit. We need some real men to put a lid on those MHO so don't hold back on the chilli and squeeze all the lemon you like.

Steveedan, there's no jinx possible when it comes to Steely Dan. They're the masters of the universe at some point or should I say, they've mastered it instead?

It's weekend for Pete's sake.
Where's that adult language?

Too busy for GB. Steely Damned tonight @ The Cannibal Bar, Catamaran Resort San Diego. W1P 6/2/01 @ The Troubadour. "Dragged down by the stone"

W1P "It was a cruel song, but fair"

Happy long-weekend Saturday everyone.

Blaise Ð Great commentary on the evolution and maturation of Steely Dan. Even though I, being a keyboard player, feel more closely aligned with Fagen, I must tell you that after I heard BeckerÕs 11 TOW I obtained a much larger respect and understanding for him. I used to think that Walter was less motivated to stay active in the music making business than Fagen, (his solo producing projects I have never heard) and when I saw the band during their 1993 concert tour, I was a bit underwelmed by BeckerÕs vocal performance of ÒFall of 92Ó. My respect for him and Fagen overrided this and of course I gave Walter the respect that he so richly deserves and sat in my seat and listed to his song and was entertained by it.

To me, BeckerÕs 11 Tracks of Whack sounds free-er than the Steely Dan records since Katy Lied up through 2VN including FagenÕs 2 solo records. Needless to say I love all of these records (CDs) but BeckerÕs solo record has a slightly different point of view somehow, and even though some of the drum-machine grooves are a little lacking (remember, I am used to the sonic perfection that these guys put out) the complex chords and chord progressions, and the stream-of-existential-consciousness lyrics are truly unique.

BeckerÕs music is not that close to NRBQ (but please try to follow this analogy) but like NRBQ a song will start off with an OK sounding groove, nothing that is super catchy, then all of a sudden, the song changes and it falls into this super catchy groove and you are totally sucked in. I love this when this happens. To me that is the proof of song progression and production mastery. Becker certainly has this, among many other talents.

I felt that WalterÕs singing abilities have greatly improved since the 1993 tour, and I was really glad to see him singing Midnight Cruiser in 1996 and EveryoneÕs Gone To The Movies and Monkey In Your Soul in the 2000 tour. At this point, I feel that if those audience members are still running for the drink lines during a Walter-sung song, then they are showing their ignorance for this amazing and multi-faceted musician and this music. ItÕs not a lack of respect Ð respect is too high a concept for these feeble minded folks.

Also, thanks a lot for all of the links that you provide us with. Please continue to do this as I have become dependent on this great service you provide.

To Hank Silvers Ð DonÕt Hang Up! By the way what are exploding val-au-vants? I love 10 CC. Original Soundtrack is also great. ÒLife is a MinestroneÓ is pure silliness genius mastery. IÕve got all the records and some of this stuff on CD. My heart sank when the two main guys (sounds a bit like Steely Dan, huh?) Godley and Creme went into production and music video production. Oh well.

For my money, as long as the music shows some sort of intelligence or has entertainment (comedic) value, I'm into it. As un-hip as this might seem, I am also a student of classic Musical Theatre. My interestests are very far-flung.

To the not-so-anon anon poster -- It does look like I've got some good gigs coming up here. But I don't want to jinx them. It's always fun to play live for a crowd though. I've been away from that for a while now, and I'm itching to do a little bit of that again, but probably not for long.

Howard - did you get my guitar fret - to - music note guide ? Do you think that the guide will help the non-guitarists? Let me know. I've been asked to learn the clavinet and incidental keyboard parts (ie, in the band position of 2nd keyboardist) for the Dr. Wu band, so I am delving into this project so that I am ready for my rehearsal/audition-moment of truth with the band a week from Sunday. Talk to you soon professor.

To everyone else, happy days and I hope I didn't bore you too much. Anons - set your phasors to "stupid".

Catch you all later -

Steveedan

''Anon['' I don't get it why would somebody do that & i don't understand taking the lead.
I just type as i think only in my head the spelling & grammer is perfect.

Not drinking as much tonight babysitting.

Hey, i'm an anon and i'd like to say welcome to jjflash just the same!

So jj .. do you intend to flash your circumcized parts around here or can we trust it to be safe and all you really want to discuss here is when our boys will produce a New One?

Duncan, haven't said it in so many words before but you ought to take lead from time to time. I mean, why not? You're already doing it anyway and seem to feel good about it. You have my blessing.

Steveedan, some major gigs apparently await you.
Will you be around to make it to next year's GB compilation I wonder. Bets anyone?

Flipper, don't fill in lp's q-lists, please. Too late, you already have. Bummer. Now she won't give up on them.

Hank my man, Sweden has some fine dudes and dedicated fans. But I would rather have not been reminded Diana Ross, Barbra Streisand and Billy Michael Jackson Jean had anything to do with our boys. An interesting angle however to ponder what the Bee Gees would have achieved if they've had Donald Fagen to write them a song. Likewise Tom Jones, the Beach Boys, Petula Clark, Dolly Parton, Glen Campbell. There's no end to this list.
Anyone fill in the blankets?

Blaise, don't go anywhere and pull back before you even went there. Cards on the table, please. And pants off.

Ballah, aa, who needs those guys????

Rikki...

The Goodbye Look

Everyone's Gone to the Movies

Only a Fool...

Haitian Divorce

Show Biz Kidz

Do It Again

Hat Too Flat

Monkey in Your Soul

Razor Boy

and they take requests:

Sun Mountain (for Gina)

Wetside Story (for Blaise)

Second Arrangement (for who-ever)

SHEESH. to you
Garlic,Chilli & Lemon on mine

WELCOME JJFLASH, DUNCAN, STEVEEDAN, FLIPPER, PAIGE revisited

CAN WE NOW GO BACK TO OUR USUAL BANTER?
THANK YOU.
SHEESH.

A big Steely welcome to jjflash
I told you the waters ok.
(some sharks around @ times)
D

Blaise - the Swedish studio mafia is loaded with money yes. And they still live in Sweden, to my knowledge. There's no problem being rich in Sweden, the "bad situation" for millionaires is exaggerated. Bjšrn Borg and other rich people who leaves Sweden usually comes back after a while, when they get sick or when they are about to get married or when they are about to deliver... or when they are about to die.

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Homo Alone - interesting point about morons in Sweden. This journalist in question origins from Los Angeles, Beverly Hills. He was a leading character in the Swedish progressive-music-Movement back in the early 70's, a lousy musician, all he was good at was talking. Now he's running his own biz, in the jingle-business. His name is Gregg.

I don't know why he moved to Sweden, it was probably something with the Vietnam war...

C

Place has gone to shit b/c interesting people like Kinky, ballah and aa have left with only the boring chatter of people like elle, cyn and angel to replace it, along with the occasional interesting side commentary like this.

"Too mean to shine" is how ms Streisand sings that song, I never cared to "do" her btw.
The weekend, always the busiest days of my week. Did manage to run down the list lp posted here the other day. Still not sure what topic I should talk about, I'm into their music a lot but have no time to hunt them down like some of you do. Hats off for sure!
Here's my list.
skunk baxter's take on missile defense spending: ItÕs not just pillow talk he IS on the take then?
the difference between a&e's treatment of jazz performers and pbs': Small and bigger ego?
the chord change at minute 2:08 in Peg: Sorry, I was in the bathroom when that happened
the reason for the choice of cathy berberian in the lyric in your gold teeth: If there ever was one
what will happen if we play the berklee concert and/or speeches backwards: We get to see it all again?
And just for our entertainment, answer the following:
Are you really Blacksgirl? (god help us all if that's yes) Have some Hispanic blood from my motherÕs side for sure (she loves Ricardo Montalban and the music of Sergio Mendez and named me after them) but my skinÕs not black, no
Do you live in Miami or Key West?: (with apologies to david) WhatÕs wrong with that?
Are you a refugee from the Dionne Warwick site?: (sorry Burt, these things happen, it's cool) Oh cool, I like the Fugees too

Ritchie

http://www.steelypan.com/

... yet another "dynamic duo". too funny.

Clas- Don't believe everything you read/hear. Is everybody in your country a moron?

Studio version (in RealAudio format) of "Fall of '92" here:

http://www.broberg.pp.se/sd_sound.htm

Steveedan: Did the band go la-di-da-di-da when you got loady-doady-doaded? (Always did like 10cc's "How Dare You!")

Solitaire (sheesh!)

jjflash: Hope you had a good meal break. :-)
You can find out these and other possible SD lyric interpretations at Oleander's excellent site, Fever Dreams.

http://home.earthlink.net/~oleander1/Index.htm

Chain Lightning is about Hitler

Gaslighting Abbie's line about solitaire is possibly the computer game.

Yes, push the refresh button to get an updated version of this GB.

a nice relaxing game of silitaire....

Good morning. Missed my moring scan due to GB editing....

Blaise: (I can't believe I am about to mention this in a public forum) :-)
Speaking of Naked News, did you see the article in Playboy last month? Interesting mic placement. LOL
Oh, your Patti article ended up in my current local paper, so it must be on the AP newswire now. Guest Book topic ends up as a news story, once again. voulez vous....

Gina: All I can say is ouch....

Clas: I have a friend who is working with Andy's stuff. Maybe it is in there. Thanks for the offer.

Good day all...

Reading the National Probe....

hello,people,
I,ve been reading your banter for about(a boat)a week.Actually posted a few days ago re:Cathy Berberian and got 2 helps(thanks to both).Never thought she would be someone famous,just an aquaintance of D&W.
Duncan:Love the game idea,but can you have the joint before the drink?Iget too ripped when I do it the other way around.Not that I could play.I'm using the hospital hookup(as subversive as I get)while I'm on call(work in a lab and live too far away to take call at home,where I'm not on line).
Was wondering what anyone gleaned from Chain Lightning? Who's it about?James Dean?
Has it been established that Gaslighting Abbey is about a planned murder? If so,what does Solitaire mean?
By the way,how does this machine work? Does "press the refresh"allow you to keep up on any replies or do I continue to go offline and come back?
I'm posting this on my dinner breakand will check back after work.
Thanks Angel for your words of encouragement to Duncan.This can be intimadating(sp?).

this place has gone to shat.

chat?

Blaisey...Forgot that you are in the beautiful city of Montreal, also my personal favorite place to buy Bagels from the Jewish section of town. Last time I was there (eldest sons Godmother is from Montreal) said Godmother's Irish Wolfhound snuck into our car (if you can imagime a wolfhound sneaking) and ate my stash of bagels I was bringing back home. I still hate that dog....LOL. Am sending you a grocery list and cash to cover expenses and overnite delivery.

1,200 sesame bagels

65 lbs of smoked meat

25lbs of that "farmers" cheese

100 bottles of spruce beer...Burrrrpppp!

And a contract out on that asshole wolfhound.

Send me a "guesstament" on cost for all the above...

Thanks,

Cyn

Make that 2000... and pardon my french.
http://radio-canada.ca/url.asp?/nouvelles/Index/nouvelles/200105/26/001-tunik.asp

Turns out, in my hometown, more than a 1000 elected to bare all in the downtown street for a Spencer Tunick photo shoot early this morning. Quite a sight to see... I'll drop the fresh porn later on, if I stumble upon it. I usually read the articles, I swear. haha

http://montreal.globaltv.com/mon/news/stories/news-79056720010525-150552.html

Spencer Tunick web site:
http://www.rsub.com/thebluedot/tunick/

Pearl Harbour

§omb

Pearl Harour IS a bomb. Links to confirm this would be way too numerous to mention.

Clas - Those Swedish music mafia guys, the boy choir writers, they must be loaded with tons of newfound cash. Do they still live in Sweden?
Gina - Walter Backer's stuff this down home genuine emotion and goes somewhat deeper intellectually, speaks directly of existential themes but that really makes up for the fact that he can't fall back on a Donald voice. Fagen would sing me the phone book and I'd most likely listen all the way through and/or record it. I don't dig the Kama concept itself but the songs themselves sound better than ever to me. But the best stuff is probably when Fagen sings Becker, maybe? It's tough to tell them apart under the guise of Steely Dan.
In a post-2vN world, I've acquired a new taste for the material they put out in the nineties while I readily admit, at the time it was released, I was somewhat disappointed. It didn't reach me back then as it does now. It's as if Two Against Nature is what makes us realize how, in hindsight, the whole thing was part of a great maturation process that implied some sort of reconciliation. As a result the new Steely Dan is more soul-infused and it becomes a funk-soul-jazz-rock alliage that is unique in the current pop horizon.
Theae two, rubbing against each other, producing each other and exploring the singularity of each so the two distinct styles can be fused together again in one entity. They had to get reacquainted first and that's what the nineties were about.
I wonder if Walter will show up on the Next One as a lead vocalist. It'd be interesting. He's matured as a singer too. His take on Steely Dan songs on the last tour were well done. But Donald's voice has this timeless je-ne-sais-quoi and obviously Walter feels the same.
angel - Too bad Andy's sound server is down again, he had the studio and one live version of Fall of 92, which didn't strike me as being very good (but that was a while ago). I guess you'll have to phone Clas now. haha :o)

And that was my Steely Dan link for the day. Well, excuuuuuusez-moi!

ÇǧÈÈ - yes, those "songwriters" are nothing else than Pro-Toolers. They can't play, they can't sing, they don't know anything.

C

Gina - yeah, really, Walter Becker is more interesting as a musician and a songwriter than Fagen. Let me tell you this story, it's pretty cool;

Back when Gaucho came, I read an review of the album in a Swedish music-magazine. The journalist wasn't to happy with the album, though he was/is a Steely Dan freak. According to the lyrics he wrote; "Fagen tributes the Trendy Drugs and despites his own homosexuality".

I couldn't hold back, I called the journalist in question, asked him about what he ment with Fagen being homosexual. He said; "Well, I'm not sure, but read Kurt Vonneguts 'Mother Night', that one will give you the answer to all Steely Dan lyrics" (remember, this was back in the early 80s, before Fever Dreams).

I read the book, once, didn't get it. I called that mother again and told him I just couldn't see the connection. -Then you have to read it again, he said.

So I did. Then I forgot the whole thing until last week when Swedish TV showed the movie "Mother Night", great shit, with Nick Nolte.

And finaly I got it:

Be careful who you pretend to be, becuse you'll end up being the one you pretend to be.

And email me Gina, I'll send you the 1993 live-CD's.

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Ed Beatty - right on Joey, don't let your ignorance stand in the way for your intolerance.

C, Toastmaster

hey hello .. it's so weird in a way how one thing leads to another and how little threads connect to bigger ones and how it all seems to make sense .. anyone seen Les Uns Et Les Autres?
this GB kind of gives me the same feeling from time to time :-)))

Jim#, indeed a very moving story and it shows just the kind of thing i at times struggled with, the history of my parent's life and what one can sense being a kid, yes ..

aarrgghh .. what's with the symbols indeed, Blaise .. care to explain the Compaqkey to me??

Clas .. wouldn't mind hearing that song as well .. i am more into WB's 11TOW than DF's solo things .. it's like Walter takes it further, you know ..

Angel .. well, it was sad at times ofcourse when you give in to what people around ya think is normal to feel, but think of it this way .. he might have easily emigrated to another continent or be an adventurer in some unknown forest .. some phonecalls twice maybe thrice a year .. we all have to live our own lives and leaving this one for something else ..
it takes a lot of love in the first place, the kind of love one has to feel for him or herself. others can never make up for any lack of self esteem. there's also a cousin we grew up with, who did exactly what my brother did, but not after she damaged her wrists a few times and really scared the wits out of people and her family. this dragged on for years and it was painful for her environment to see in what agony she apparently lived. her last summer she spent at my house and she had changed, like my brother had. we also joked around about her slicing her wrists the way she did and what messy, the blood and all. i tried to get her to open up why she felt the way she did but she couldn't really tell .. all she knew she felt unhappy with who she was, her sister was prettier (NOT!) she didn't like what others liked etc .. she and i bought my cd-player together and i remember how we listened to the sounds of others when in the store. i seemed to channel onto her level and she had this very high and sensitive nerve system .. no wonder she wanted things to be perfect and life, alas, isn't. so it would always cause her distress and these uncomfortable feelings. but she had no clue why and directed all the anger towards herself. she was very gifted as well and had this amazing talent to draw and paint. but she could never come to terms with the world outside and who she was .. she and my brother had been close as kids and when he died, she was devastated as in mad and surprised as well. for the last time he visited her in the hospital where she lay after another attempt to hit those veigns .. they had an argument and the closeness chilled some. i remember her and me sitting at my brother's grave where she cried silently. i spent quite some time with her for two years and we went to the Euromast together, stood up there, my feet feeling like jello .. we laughed and joked and shared something special .. the rest of the family never dared to go near the place .. she died there as well a few years later .. these experiences make you wonder about life and people and how important it is to fight for what you want .. our mothers are sisters and we were tight, two families spending holidays together and weekends and such .. the process of growing up and to leave the happy childhood days behind .. my aunt never really stopped thinking about us a children and bought us stuffed animals, haha, i had a sweet little birdy i named Flo when i was 30, it was the day my mother's mother died. another day filled with something special and our garden had this true indonesian atmosphere .. i smelled smells i never smelled before, there were pigeons nearby all our family members as they travelled down south for my grandmother's last hours .. our dog warned us and sat in front of the dustbin outside, my mother leaned forward to see what he was looking at and there she was, a little parrot (agapornis) in the same bright colors of my stuffed parrot Flo. those are true amazing things to experience!! and next the final morning my grandmother passed away, i woke up because i heard this loud shrieking of a bird, i was in my bed and looked up to see the stuffed parrot in the corner next to my pillow. i knew he could never have made that sound but a few minutes later the phone rang .. my grandmother had passed away.

i know i'm not the only one experiencing it like this, there are lots of stories from people about clocks stopping and all that .. life has this different levels in awareness and some things we can't see but just sense .. sometimes we simply K N O W them ..
that's why this cybercommunication is great, because modern technology enables people from all over the globe to get in touch, keep things in minds and share common grounds, common cyberspace .. it reaches across borders and boundaries.

well, i must tie this weak end now as i said on top :-)

Banyan Tree Mock Turtle Jello Beans Bow,
G.

Angel - "Fall of 92" is great. But the lyrics are better than the music. I have 2 CD's from the 93 tour, where Becker is doing that song. I'd be happy to send those to you. Just give me an email... or a phonecall :)

Duncan - I'm cool buddy.

HOWARD! Great job, and you really took me out from some chord-misery. I am pretty sure that the Steely Dan Complete song-book is saying; (on the Rhodes intro)

(shake it) E / F# / E5 / Bb7b5 / ... that's wrong.

You are right; E / F#/E / E5 / A7b5

C

Beautiful day in L.A. Glad the heat is over for a bit....

Gina: That is just the saddest thing. You show such insight and maturity in your writing account of a very real and personal tragedy. So sorry about your brother.

Duncan: Please note that you are welcome to post when you are sober, too. :-)

Lisa G: Any chance you are catching up to the present, yet? Are you home this weekend?

Ole: Are you still here? Just a quick post once in a while so we know you are still around. Nothing fancy, really.... :-)

ÇǧÈÈ: Thanks again for all the links. A true service you do for this GB.

I loaned out my copy of TM2000 to a friend and just got it back the other day. It was a real treat to listen to after being without it for a few weeks. You all hold up real well. :-)

Thanks to all who mentioned "Fall of '92". Will have to go searching, yet again.... :-)

Good night all....

Voulez, vous....

i slipped into you sideways on the beach

does this Dylan song so beautifully imo:

In the lonely night
In the stardust of a pale moonlight
I think of you in black and white
When we were made of dreams

I walked alone throught the shaky streets
listening to my heartbeat
In the record-breaking heat
When we were born in time

Just when I thought you were gone
you came back
just when I was ready to receive you

you were smooth, you were rough
you were more that enough
Ah babe, why did I ever meet you
or believe you?

Just when I knew who to thank
you went blank
just as the firelight was gleaming
You were snow
you were rain
you were stripes
you were plain
Ah babe, can it be you were scheming
or was I dreaming?

Everything's a mystery
in the foggy web of destiny
You're still so deep inside of me
and we were born- in time.

Bob Dylan

Clas - The article on Tom Waits also mentions the Carrlson mafia and its rule of terror over the airwaves and the airheads of this world:

"Max Martin and Andreas Carlsson shared ASCAP Songwriter of the Year honors. Martin is responsible for writing the Backstreet Boys' "Show Me the Meaning of Being Lonely," and Carlson inked 'N Sync's "Bye Bye Bye." As a team, the duo wrote 'N Sync's "It's Gonna Be Me," Celine Dion's "That's The Way It Is," and BSB's "I Want It That Way." Both composers are Swedish but license their music through ASCAP in the States."

And following Steely Dan, Tom Waits gets the ASCAP founders award this year. Has it really been a year? brrr

http://wallofsound.go.com/news/stories/tomwaits052301.html

Oh yes...
Stevie Dan, where is you now? you be missed.

Jim, Gina - Moving, passionately told stories there... it's hard to come up with something substantial after that.
sheesh
should I tell my tale of circumcision trauma at lenght? Nah... I'll spare you... butchers...

Hey, looky here... drunks using the forum to vent their frustrations on the locals. What a novel idea that is.
Strip search engine it will be, mate... catch ya later, buddie.

Looks like Punk is the next RRHOF flavor:

http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/redirect/leaf=allstararticle/fid=269169/from=sr-117124

Am watching a movie and heard a very profound statement made by the eldest son, refering to what he believes is his "overprotective" mother. He says, and I quote" She breathes my air first...just to make sure its OK for me".

As our esteemed friend Blksgirl would say, and again I quote" wowowowowowowowow.....omggggggggggggggg"!

I think that just about covers it.

BTW...jimmy, Thanks for the post!

New "web feature story" up on berklee site:

http://www.berklee.edu/html/ab_commfeat2001.html

"Quiet tonight tell me I'm not drinking alone .................?
p.s. I love Steely Dan ( for all search engines out there)"

urgh... speaks for itself, really...

dano - Yes, they played Spies last night. They played almost everything from "Parachutes". The new tunes sounded really good. They are already big here in the States (especially with the college crowd). If you had asked me 6 months ago if I thought they would make here I wouldn't have given them a chance. I thought the CD was too dark and moody. But "Yellow' was a pretty big hit here and the CD has been selling really well. Tix for last nights show were almost impossible to get. The couple in front of me paid $75 from a scalper.

angel - "Fall of '92" was a Walter solo tune he played at a number of shows in 1993. It never made it on to 11TOW. If you search the net hard enough there are a few sites that have snippets of the song and at least a couple of sites have the complete song. It has the great lyric "George Bush and those Nazis down in Washington".

Have a great weekend everybody!

Mark in Boston

Hi Stranger,
Its nice to see you,drop by anytime-I've missed intelligence and wit here.

Angel,
Cold Compress on the forehead until you actually see Walter and Donald live,followed by as many bootlegs you can take.

Have a safe holiday

Ed

Quiet tonight tell me I'm not drinking alone .................?
p.s. I love Steely Dan ( for all search engines out there)

most of my ability to make any reference whatsoever finds its way connected to F O O D these days. i kind of challenge my body to gain kilo's -or should i say pounds- and then work to drop them like kamikaze bombs of fat. currently i haven't reached my max yet, the limit that says no can do. and i still have clothes i can wear but the number of things i can't wear is growing ofcourse :-))

lots of cruelty in the name of religion, culture or habit in this world we call home. saw this video once, The Faces Of Death that had footage one could easily loose sleep over. can't help but be thankful i saw corpses as in dead people be examined by good doctors to get used to seeing that, it is as much part of the life we're given, this death we'd rather keep at arm's length. having seen that video came in very handy when i had to identify my brother's corpse, in fact the thought of that video ran through me when standing in the morgue and we happened to have seen that together, my brother and i, along with some of his nutty friends. so the humour of it was a leading thing doing the identification part. i have no trouble talking about it, never had and it at times became a burden for i am the last to have heard him alive and the only one to have seen him dead. mothers have this thing about seeing their children even if they're dead, i found my mother's reaction a lot more upsetting than having spent time with a dead brother. somehow i sensed i would be the only one able to see his corpse, so i kind of took my eyes like a set of camera's -no crosseyed vision however-and had them scan the event and experience. and then back home, my mother in tears and torn apart, her sisters and friends around her .. this broken voice asking me how my brother looked and this grieve about not being allowed to see him .. jumping off a tower, 100 meters .. according to the experts in the morgue it even was a miracle his face was intact for the rest of him was broken into thousands of pieces turning blue with the minute. anyway, i described him to my mother and ofcourse telling her what she needed to hear rather than pure facts. i told her how i felt and how i sensed it was just a body, his essence and soul and personality not in it, i remember looking for it in the candle-lit room as if it would be visible in some way, haha. it may sound silly, but at times it seemed the process of grieve for my mother was not complete, for she had not been granted the opportunity to see her son, this life she gave birth to. and although i knew she never meant it to sound like a reproach, it felt like one. as if i stole something that should have been hers.
people tend to change things around, either positive or negative from a variety of angles and views. according to my family the suicide of my brother must have been the toughest on me, for it happened in the town where i had just moved to, to start a new life, i was 23. i had to deal with the police and some paranoid questions as well and knew this would have a major effect on my plans for my life. th‡t i hated, yes. something beyond my own will changing my life.
it never really was his suicide that complicated things, it was this whole thing of family affairs and a strong sense of duty i felt towards my parents in spite of my longing to break away and follow my own dreams. at some point it was bound this would all collide and i realize it never really stops, at least for my parents it doesn't. my mother has been seriously ill for a year and is now recovering, Gaucho's a significant part of this healing thing for my mother is and always will be a mother as if it's her life's goal. she needs to take care of others and i guess that is her drive, her source.
shortly after my brother died, i began to sense his presence and i had trouble accepting it being this western rational girl who loved to read about the so called supernatural, but wasn't to keen in submitting herself to any of that voluntarily. it was stronger than i was, it felt as if he wanted to become a part of me and this goes back to when we were kids, people often thought we were twins. he was only 11 months younger but i had often thrown myself as the big sister, at school, fighting boys who teased him etc. he even waited for me to go back to Rotterdam to make the jump, for practical reasons as well 'cause boy, do we come from a tidy practical family :-))
he needed someone to pick up his possessions, he even wrote that down in a note he left for the police .. what they needed to do, where they could reach me and if i wasn't home where they could find my friends etc. it is funny, the way he organized his death and wasn't able to handle life and his life ..
i talked to some Moluccan boys i knew, these people from islands close to the Indonesian isles my family comes from are used to live with the "supernatural" like the native americans did and other cultures like the Aboriginals etc. they told me to accept it and then it would go away. for it became a burden, also because i was vulnerable and with an urge to protect my brother like we were kids again. so i would easily open up and be a medium etc although i didn't want any of that. so i accepted the things that occurred and i slowly began to breathe freely, maybe even grew accustomed to it. for he was near when i was in danger riding my bike at night all the way to my parents'home from downtown, or absent minded not paying attention in traffic .. stuff like that.
he'd always been my younger brother, kid brother. but the last months of his life we hang out a lot, i hang out a lot with him and his friends. i sensed a difference in levels and when we were in town one night and a headache was killing me he said i didn't have to stay for his sake, i could go home if i felt sick. it's the way he said it. it is sad ofcourse, we share this history of feeling or be made feeling responsible for our actions and ourselves. standards people come up with when not sure about life and what it is they really want for themselves.
my brother was a gifted musician and studied classical piano. he left school because of a stressed out teacher telling him he would never be able to express his emotions in his pianoplaying. nonsense, for he made it through the auditions for application because of how he played, since he dropped out of highschool the year before. they made an exception for him.
it is sad he couldn't deal with it or fight back. my parents tried to reason with him not to give up but he was pigheaded and left anyway.
i guess some people, souls are not from this world, i read some about Star Trek here, haha. my brother always drew pictures connected to outer space and in his last months showed this remarkable outgoing sense enjoying things he did. like i have
been doing ever since i knew the meaning of the word "aware" and live my life as aware as possible.
it happened so the grave next to my grandmother's was empty again. my father used to have dreams about his mother calling out to him and he lived and still lives a troubled life, albeit less stressful since a few heart attacks and strokes, haha. as if the rebellious parts of his brain were silenced ..
so when my brother died, he was buried next to my grandmother. and it felt like this full circle to some other relatives of my father's family.
i believe a family can carry something in their genes, not as much disorders or illnesses .. but emotional tragedies as well, stuff that happened decades, centuries ago perhaps. as a kid i always sensed something weird and dark when it comes to my father's family, a lot of pain and grieve and incapacity to take a chance and make that leap to a new way of living if the "old" one is cause for gloom.
my brother jumped off the Euromast in the harbour of Rotterdam, where our ancestors sailed off into the unknown, centuries ago. i immediately sensed this when i went there two years after the fact. a full circle. as if some of an old curse or something was relieved, as if something had been returned, retrieved.
at times like that, religion comes to shower its magic until it sinks into a solid believe in matters we don't usually discuss without some hesitance or scepticism. but even then, it proves life's vibes are a substance, an essence that has a life of its own, aarrgghh, how to put this in words i don't know!!!
well, it is a l i v e.
life is.

AJA, should you read this, this is almost a direct translation of the story i'd written and was invited to publish with some alterations in order to make it spectaculair, which i refused ofcourse. that was years ago and although would have been a nice chance to debute in the world of journalism back then .. sometimes it's a simple no-can-do.

i'm glad i didn't back then and i still made it into that strange writer's realm doing only the things i like to do.

sigh. sorry if i sidetracked the topics i read about ..
guess i just want to say how important it is to cherish what we've got and enjoy even the silliest moment ..
life's so precious, less than perfect but precious anyway!

hey Steviedan .. silence is golden they say but i don't mind any silver or brass from you around here ..

off again,

Banyan Tree No Tip If I Was Served A Circumcized Male Bow,
Gdot

yes, thank you jim, you are extremely eloquent and how lucky you are to have such influence in your life!

i heard on a talk radio show today about a pearl harbor survivor speaking at a high school class about his experience and after he was completed, he received a standing ovation from the class and then was asked if the military provided counseling for the soldiers after that traumatic event......oh how the times have changed...

Dano & Me or what everbody else asleep
(probably)

Nice word Jim.

They don't

Duncan , Speak fer yerself av had mines aff fir 46 years and my wife still has"nt noticed??

dano: LOL - you are too funny!

Gabbiadini left years ago ! Tosser
I'm eating texas BBQ pizza yum!

Without dwelling on it in any expanded, self-serving kind of way, IÕll pass on a story of Memorials, which we in the States tend to do at this time of year.

There was a dairy farm boy, raised by Mennonite parents in upstate New York during the Depression. An only child, he tended the chores and went to school, his only reflective memory of childhood offering only an aversion to chickens, the raising of, the sound of, the eating of, which carried through for the rest of his days. Save perhaps, a love of reading, there not being much else to do for leisure on a Mennonite farm, in the 1930Õs. His misfortune, graduating high school in 1940, was a guarantee for a moment in a conflict not of his choosing. Older than the other enlistees, and perhaps a bit more reserved, more self-educated, and already employed otherwise, he was jerked away from home and friends, given a gun and Sergeant stripes and told to train 17 year olds in how to shoot Germans.

When and how he met his sweetheart, a farm girl some distance away, has never been clearly explained. His best pal dating her sister might be a clue, but is lost in the fog of the new found hurriedness of the time, a time of Mennonites marching to war, of inexorably moving armed forces, of swing music and crooning, and passioned speeches over the radio by patriots never seen by television, or internet, maybe in a movie trailer on a stolen Saturday evening. There was no time for milking, or egg sorting. And an end to drives in the Model A to see his girl. Only time to await orders by mail, on a silent spring evening, commanding a presence in far off North Carolina. More bodies to train, more marching, more ponchos and fox hole digging. And heat. The sort of southern climate made to wilt a northerner by itsÕ own fierceness. A half dozen battalion of men trained, ticketed and bound for North Africa. And time running out for the Sergeant, the dairy farmer, the trainer of men; his own orders came through for his destiny, to go to the desert to kill, and harm, and inflict the sort of madness on the world that the Mennonites would surely be repulsed by.

In the end hour, he was fallen not by a machine gun, but by pneumonia, the kind afforded by the heat and climate never before experienced. And his mates steamed off to hell, to Italy, to France. And perhaps beyond. The Army clucked itsÕ own sort of bemused sorrow at the loss of such a Sergeant, a maker of men, and discharged him on medical grounds. And back to the factories he went, to make airplane engines for the machine, this time to shoot Asian warriors instead of Nordic ones. Always accepting these duties, these charges, the stoics of life among the farm cows, of life preserving life, with the inevitability of death ever hovering.

And what would have gone through his mind, and the minds of hundred of thousands like him, these 60 years past. Did he agree with the rationale of conflict, of war so intense, of moments of awareness of the finality of it all? What went through his mind when he married, in 1944, the farm girl, the quiet one of the two sisters, with friends falling by the week in agony overseas? And to not be a part, on wars conclusion, of the feeling of victory, the erasure of pain. Was it not his war?

After bearing children, finding a career, and advancing, on the strength of a high school education and a lifetime of hard work, to an engineerÕs job normally reserved for college fellows, he plodded on. Forgotten perhaps, except on a day like today, when the heroÕs would march by in the small town parade, and the flag, his colors, would pass by. He wasnÕt a participant, not a marcher. A soldier neednÕt be. The heels brought together, the dead accurate salute, the absolute respect for those his own age stepping in front of him. Those that survived, along with him. And a small boy quizzically watching the sustainment of that salute, the seriousness, knowing there was something unexplained here.

And IÕve never asked an explanation. Maybe there have been enough movies, enough printed word for an 80 year old man with AlzheimerÕs to not have to explain to his son what sacrifice is. And why the number of his friends from years past was so small. And those remaining so curiously silent. There was a resolve to those days, a measured and quiet something, a patience that this instant age will never grasp. But our age was caused, was allowed to happen because of it. Our music, our cries for gratification, all of our elitist groaning made possible by dairy farmers posing as alluded saviors of the Hemisphere. And well did they make the illusion work, if it were ever an illusion at all.

Thank you, Dad.

Well, Blaise, it seems I did find that can opener. Never having been to a bris, I don't know how a Mol preforms a circumcision at this ceremony. However I do know that in this and other standardized countries it is done under the guidance of a Professional Medical Person.

My reference was to the horrible practice in Africa as Midnight so well explained. But, I need to add that it is performed on little girls ages 4-7 maybe younger, maybe older. Also this "circumcision" is done without painkillers, any sharp object(normally an old rusty razor, used many times before).

Now is not the time to keep repeating past histories about this or that, what was done then, is done. We can't change it, But, we can learn from it. We can take a stand against it.

DJ...My comments were strickly directed to the "Taliban". I would never put all members of one religion on the coals over what the extremist do. I respect people of ALL faiths...but I do not respect the ones that say its alright to treat another HUMAN BEING in the manner I stated before.

Ok...now heres a glitch
While scrollin'down to read todays episodes of the GB, when I got to Howards post about the "weird symbols" my computer screwed right the hell up. Once on aol and again on compuserve. Rebooted..did it again, and again. All right at Howards post...can someone please 'splain this to me...LOL. Was the SYMBOLS?????

Hope you all have a great Holiday!

WIP , Dan listened to the Buried track , kinda reminds me of Sunday Papers by Joe Jackson , good voice and neat lyrics , and that garageband site is quite good also . Regards Dano.

Howard , On the links site shot twice , people with goatee beards, and mobile tunes are really true mate , why can"t they just have an ordinary ring.

Mark In Boston , Did they do Spies , They are very big here and will crack America.

fezo , Ben Folds is playing in the UK this summer.

Lp , I celebrated our 14th anniversary last night , she was well pissed because i didn"t get in till 3am??

Chappie , gone yersel big man a wid bae wae yae , but a canny hum a tune??

Duncan , Is Gabbiadini still up there??

TWM , Yahooo Sopranos back on E4 on the 25th June , Next they will be saying NYPD is back and I will have a massive organism.
Shit I miss that cantancrous basta Andy??

TWM, Proclaimers on the radio this morning saying there gonna stuff the tic??
Ever since then its been on my mind all day.

If yae go will yae send back a letter from America
Take a look at the rail track from Miami to Canada.

Off to Pearl Harbour , spelled with a u...........

Have a dooser everyone "dano"

what a story teller -
can see why he had such an influence on wb/df too, right?

Early one mornin' the sun was shinin',
I was layin' in bed
Wond'rin' if she'd changed at all
If her hair was still red.
Her folks they said our lives together
Sure was gonna be rough
They never did like Mama's homemade dress
Papa's bankbook wasn't big enough.
And I was standin' on the side of the road
Rain fallin' on my shoes
Heading out for the East Coast
Lord knows I've paid some dues gettin' through,
Tangled up in blue.

She was married when we first met
Soon to be divorced
I helped her out of a jam, I guess,
But I used a little too much force.
We drove that car as far as we could
Abandoned it out West
Split up on a dark sad night
Both agreeing it was best.
She turned around to look at me
As I was walkin' away
I heard her say over my shoulder,
"We'll meet again someday on the avenue,"
Tangled up in blue.

I had a job in the great north woods
Working as a cook for a spell
But I never did like it all that much
And one day the ax just fell.
So I drifted down to New Orleans
Where I happened to be employed
Workin' for a while on a fishin' boat
Right outside of Delacroix.
But all the while I was alone
The past was close behind,
I seen a lot of women
But she never escaped my mind, and I just grew
Tangled up in blue.

She was workin' in a topless place
And I stopped in for a beer,
I just kept lookin' at the side of her face
In the spotlight so clear.
And later on as the crowd thinned out
I's just about to do the same,
She was standing there in back of my chair
Said to me, "Don't I know your name?"
I muttered somethin' underneath my breath,
She studied the lines on my face.
I must admit I felt a little uneasy
When she bent down to tie the laces of my shoe,
Tangled up in blue.

She lit a burner on the stove and offered me a pipe
"I thought you'd never say hello," she said
"You look like the silent type."
Then she opened up a book of poems
And handed it to me
Written by an Italian poet
From the thirteenth century.
And every one of them words rang true
And glowed like burnin' coal
Pourin' off of every page
Like it was written in my soul from me to you,
Tangled up in blue.

I lived with them on Montague Street
In a basement down the stairs,
There was music in the cafes at night
And revolution in the air.
Then he started into dealing with slaves
And something inside of him died.
She had to sell everything she owned
And froze up inside.
And when finally the bottom fell out
I became withdrawn,
The only thing I knew how to do
Was to keep on keepin' on like a bird that flew,
Tangled up in blue.

So now I'm goin' back again,
I got to get to her somehow.
All the people we used to know
They're an illusion to me now.
Some are mathematicians
Some are carpenter's wives.
Don't know how it all got started,
I don't know what they're doin' with their lives.
But me, I'm still on the road
Headin' for another joint
We always did feel the same,
We just saw it from a different point of view,
Tangled up in blue.

Copyright © 1974 Ram's Horn Music

I'm pissed up after a sml trip to www.tapasbar.co.uk to see England v Greece

Circumcision ain't no joke I've had to put up with 34 yrs jokes ''Roundhead'' to me its not funny I cant undress in front of a another male.. full stop.
The ridicule & ritual humiliation I went through, as a school child is a weight I will not be bestowing upon young Dan.

The 60's have a lot to answer

My parents had me & my brother (twin) done for nothing other than
Fashion & it ruined my school life & deeply disturbed me for years since.

It's only now that with close friends & fellow members of the GB that I can say hey what the fuck I'm forskinless & laugh

Nobody on this planet can tell me anything about circumcision because I have had to live with it for 34 yrs
I know what happens to girls in Africa

I sympathise

Duncan
Clas chill I'm on your side

(55mins to type that)
Listening to SD live I cant here any joins what are they talking about?
Duncan

P.S.
Any Newbie's reading this ''Dive in '' The water's not that hot

Smelly PI transcripts are up:

http://www.abc.go.com/primetime/politicallyincorrect/pi_home.html

Cyn- All I can say is "Right On, girl." I think it's important
to remember though, that we are all the same under the skin and any genitalia that we have. As someone who has been discriminated myself from time to time. I can understand. Regardless from where we come from, individual freedom is always on our minds.

Anyway, I probably won't be seeing Pearl Harbor, no because of one of the previous postings, but because the movie is part
historical moment and part love story. Smells like a film about
a supposedly unsinkable ship. HMMMMMM! Obviously, it's no Saving Private Ryan. I think Shrek will br on my list this weekend.

See Ya!

tangled up in blue is my personal all time favorite bob dylan tune (i may have the title incorrectly noted, but you know which one i mean)

To those who mentioned Miles and Bob Dylan, thanks for reminding
me to do this:

Happy 60th birthday Bob. Many songwriters, I'm sure thank you
for being a influence on their work. And we thank you for everything else.

Miles, I wish you were here, man. But, HappY 75th birthday,man.
Where Louis A. was the King, you are considered, the Prince of Jazz.

Amen, Brother

...and little overhead...

badda ding badda boom

Edd, that killed me!

Hey, circumcision jokes? I can do those, no problem!

Circumsion wouldn't be as popular in this country if it didn't pay so well.

Experts can make over $450K a year.

Plus tips!

Hey Duncan, dano and I will take you on at the bevvy game any day, wee man!!

Saw a post saying that the San Fernando valley is the world porn capital. Any cheap holidays going???

Saw some great Dylan progs on the box last night, and he came across a lot more interesting than I ever took him for. Good stuff.

On the circumsicion debate, I went for the op a couple of years ago, but the doc couldn't do it. 'We haven't got a scalpel big enough' boomboom

All right, I AM a big head (double entendre)

Peace
Al

...and a happy birthday to Miles Davis.

popping in to say hello -

i did listen to 2vN last night while drafting a courtyard design for hubby until 2 AM, that's my steely dan mention for today (i also listened to boz scaggs anthology, wow, whatta voice whatta band he put together for his releases)

back to your provocative discussions on circumcision (i have girls, so can't join the fun).....

angel: mae-mae has strep again, very sad - need to yank them tonsils i think - get rid of what you don't need, right?

malc - e me soon

The world is flat after all:

http://news.excite.com/news/zd/010525/09/apple-the-world

SteveeDan - I bought one for our teaching lab. Awesome - esoecially the colors - vibrant and no flicker - like looking into a window, virtually. Glad to the the prices are coming down now as expected...

DJ MITCH - GOOD POINT!

And for example; if one looks att CNN for two hours it's amazing to note what a twisted, distorted picture they give of the Muslims. It's pure brainwashing.

And about the African female circumcisions; remember that Africa is a continent who's been colonized for a long time (by white, very religous people). They are way behind, but there are very positive forces who's trying to get rid of that circumcision-stuff.

C

If we consider that childish, naive lame remark came from a very western, narrow, point of view, we simply just can ignore it.

But if we don't (ignore it), remember, it wasn't long ago KKK made the southern (even midwest) part of USA very insecure for black and jewish people. And apartheid is still existing in the USA.

And minorities don't have to wear any signs in USA, you can tell just by the color of skin and where they live.

And refering to the Holocaust all the time is a little bit boring, ethnic wipe-outs is overall existing in this world, this very moment.

---

the Stranger - yes, I was wondering.

C

In England we call them ''Roundheads''

Here Here

Cyn & Blaise....there's a world of difference between male circumcision practiced by much of the western world and female circumcision practiced by some African nations. Removal of the male foreskin doesn't really affect his sexual function in life. He may have some diminished sensitivity versus the uncircumcised male, but is still capable of all things pleasurable in the ways of sex. Female circumcision is barbaric and involves total removal of the clitoris, thus eliminating sexual pleasure and the ability to have an orgasm. It's thought that this will keep the woman from having sex with other males. That this pratice can be sanctioned by any culture is beyond me.

belated 60th birthday to Bob Dylan.

resolution

Steveedan: Have one for me. You can't believe the number of computer glitches that afflict me constantly...the latest is Epson printer software drivers. Now that HPs have reolution out the wazoo - they would be the ink jet printer of choice...

Let's try...

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Jee, ya never know what will go through...

Blaise: lame? You should see my cat! He went from expert hunter to couch potato in one year. "pass me a beer and put on the fuckin' Aminal Channel - he sez. Steve's got a Cheetah by the tail tonight." Even "it" doesn't piss me off. Hangin' on 'til we have a dog...

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but did you mail off your twin to america?

tsk, tsk.

Angle
Good night I think

fitted raised flowerbed in garden
Painted outside hous wall lilac
trimmed dead tree ( cats NOT happy)
typed for 2hours
listned to goucho 3 times royal scam once
drunk 2ltr coke 1/2 ltr vodka
Cheers

CYN: The comments about the Taliban rulers are truthful,but i hope that you don`t think that this behavior is endorced by Muslims elsewhere. The Koran (Islamic Holy Book) is very clear in the respect of other religions.....Islam seems to be criticized, when it is the politics of the area.......I don`t think it is right for non Christians to depise Christianity because of the brutal and sanctioned behavior of the Crusades....

Hi again Angel -

I forgot to mention to you in my previous psychotic post that "The Fall of '92", or is it "The Fall of '96"? I can't remember. Anyway, I remember when Walter introduced the song in concert (just before the idiot audience members stampeded the drink lines) he said that this was a song about "Romance without Finance".

I always liked this line. Sure beats the drink line, which I was in at the beginning of the following year's concert at the same venue when the band opened with "True Companion".

Blast shields are down, C-3PO has been dismantled.

Steveedan

Good morning campers --

As we head into the weekend, please try not to get bombed at Pearl Harbor (Tora, Tora, Tora - and for us folks who don't have to "pull back and rinse" - Torah, Torah, Torah !). Come to think of it, let's see if Pearl Harbor bombs or not.

Blaise - How YOU doin' ? Did you mean that I pissed off the "good doctor" with my newfound ability to paste the " µ " symbol ? Or was it with the aMUsing thing ? It was just a feeble attempt at levity about the " mu " symbol. It was not directed at the "good doctor". This unfortunately is not a joke. I really do need someone to post the " m " symbol that has the long downward tail in front like the " µ " symbol has. I need it for my music chart writing. Will someone please help me so that I don't piss anyone else off. Aw Sh*t, I probably will transgress again though I don't do it intentionally. This is my OCD taking over. Mu, Meau, Moo !! Give me give me symbol do !!

Angel and W1P - It looks pretty good that I'll be playing keyboards with the Steely Fan Band at the NOHO festival - on the Toyota of North Hollywood stage on Sunday June 17 at 2 PM. Be sure to wear the studs that match your eyes for easy identification. Also, keep the evening of July 6 open. the Dr. Wu band is playing the Whiskey A-Go-Go in West Hollywood that night. I will be there, but maybe not in the audience ! More on this later.

Howard - I was just looking for a simple guide to convert tablature notation to music notes. Maybe I will find the time to make one myself and if I do, I will send it to you. Actually, it's really not that hard to do, now that I think about it, but hey, I need someone to give me the " mu " symbol, so I am probably not out of the woods yet - if ever.

Maybe I am better off staying in the woods.

Duncan - Clearly I can't play the game, but I'm a pretty good speller. I just have an aversion to spinning rooms and puking. Just call me particular (as opposed to particle blower). How's that for you chunky monkeys out there ?

For those of you who aren't that happy with George W. Bush, a friend of mine found a hysterical website www.gwbush.com . From there look at the various links listed down the right hand side of the page. There is another site listed there called bushorchimp. This is a site of hysterical T-shirts showing a picture of Dubya next to a chimp with a similar expression. Classic stuff in the modern era. This must be free speech at its best, or at least, at its chimp.

I want my " mu " TV !! So says my OCD on my CRT -- hey OCD let go of me !! Urrgh ! Choke ! Weeze ! Snort ! (Whoops - that last one's for a whole different post !)

Alright, time to get ready for the day -- wait 'til they get a loada me ! This village idiot is looking for his shoe. Found it. Smack it into head - day already off to great start. C stands for cookie, that's good enough for me ...

OK - time to clean off my screen. Have a great weekend everyone.

Steveedan whatever

In case you are wondering where the song quote comes from. It's from a rather obscure Steven Schwartz play, "The Magic Show", which starred the late Doug Henning (a fellow Canadian, there Blaise). I always loved the words je-ne-sais-quoi but never saw it spelled, until now. You are just doing wonders for my French. :-)

Howard: Love your "I was the dandy" line. Very creative.

Cyn: Yeah, I heard it on the news the other night. Same thought went through my mind. People never change. Sheesh!

Duncan: Bad night or good night. Hard to tell from your post.... :-)

Steveedan: No more drinking for you!
"Blast shields are up"....have you been hanging out with LP again?

Stranger: Good to see you drop by. Yeah, Dylan turned 60. Who would have thunk it! I did love some of the headlines, including the predictable, "The Times They Are A Changing" one.
Happy belated one, Bob. Thanks for pushing the envelope and allowing Steely Dan to take full advantage of obscure lyrics. Where would we all be without them.

Mark in Boston: What is "Fall of '92" Can anyone tell this girl has never been to a live Steely Dan concert? Gasp. :-)

Good day all and Blaise (be good).... lol

Without it you're a bust....

seeking retribution? do you know EXACTLY who trimmed your sword? i hear you can sue for foreskin abandonment...

Saw Coldplay at the Avalon Ballroom last night. Some really tasty stuff. The crowd was rather annoying though. Lots of talking during the songs. Especially during some new songs they were introducing. It kind of reminded how people just ignored Walter when he was playing "Book of Liars" and "Fall of '92" before 11TOW came out. People just went "Hey, never heard this before - let's get a beer".

'Parachutes" is a great CD. Takes a while to grow on you but worth checking out.

Mark in Boston

Oh I got the scalpel, baby. Make no mistake. I still remember it too. Retribution is a seductive idea now all of a sudden. gotta shake this off...

qp

What's with all these weird symbols ...

I can't understand a ζ¤%δ*Ø@-ing thing!

Clas, Steveedan et al - as you know, comments, thoughts etc on the Babylon Sisters chords (or other transcriptions) are always welcome.

This slight language barrier between guitar tab and keyboard friendly stuff is annoying, but there's not much we can do about that. I guess spelling chords out in full (C Bb Eb G etc) is the best option.

Hope everyone has a good weekend!

Howard

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just for you

so, blaise. are you trying in your most humble way to tell us that you're still "intact"?

Cyn - An outsider to the Jewish faith could very well think the same of ritual male cicumcision, as it is still performed systematically, even w/o any real medical need or prescription to do so. Should we be offended by such a barbaric practice just the same?

Schwinn, fellow yankees: Yes, enqueue your ass to lay down your Jackson, people and don't delay. Gotta feed the machine.
I figure at least big time Hollywood movie stars should have this je-ne-sais-quoi appeal attached to their persona, some brut and charisma, no? Affleck strikes me as the type that couldn't find his way into Studio 54 if he streaked, bent over backwards, singing a raucous "voulez-vous coucher avec moi? Voulez voulez voulez-vous?" remix on random repeat. Yawn.... how boring does it have to get, people?
Btw, I hear there are three versions of the movie: one is for the Japanese market and it avoids the predictable "Fuckin' Japs" slurs and there's even another alternative take meant for Germans leaving any "Fuckin' Fritz" out (or something). History on the cutting floor type deal again. I also hear it's really a love story with Kamikaze pilots providing the fireworks in the background instead of the other way around, as the trailer kinda misleading suggests just to draw you in. Go ahead, spread your wings and flock in droves!
And yes, we're all proud Americans here enjoying a national holiday and we should all partake in the most predictable of programmed activities. It goes without saying. Thanks for the reminder.

LP - There you go, here's another project: try to catch Pearl Harbour in Tokyo and report from the closest Internet-ready mini-bar or fridge you can find. Colour, baby! Hope this little blockbuster doesn't create a diplomatic incident or triggers a rise in anti-american sentiments over there or anything like that... sheesh

Steveedano - I have never seen the "good doctor" pissed off before and, mind you, I kinda like the idea but that's a lame attempt there, buddie. Please, try again.

Cyn - Moving, passionate plea there, seriously... but you have to keep in mind that this judgement is from a Western World perspective. Is it objectively digusting if it's not experienced this way subjectively? Is there such a thing like a universally valid set of values? Deep, deep ethical can of worms you're trying to open there. Here, let me help you with that... humpf...

Ç§È © 19101.

Its been about 3 days since I read about this in the paper and was waiting for it to come up in here. Since no one else has mentioned it...I will.

Afghanistan's ruling Taliban said Tuesday that they will require Hindus to wear identity labels on their clothing to distinguish them from Muslims. The taliban said the measure - which will also require Hindu women to be veiled for this first time - was aimed at keeping non-Muslims from being harassed by religious police inforcing Islamic law.

Does this sound familar to anyone? Thats what the Nazi regime said back in 36. But they also included Gays, Gypsies, Jehovah Witnesses after they required the Jews to wear them.

Its not enough the Taliban treat the women of Afghanistan worst than dogs. Its not enough they destroy ancient artifacts. Now it looks like they are going after "anyone" who doesn't believe in what "they" do.

I don't have the time right now to research this, but, When the Russians pulled out of there, were the "Freedom Fighters" part of the now infamous Taliban? And did we not support them in their fight against the Russians? Or did the Taliban slowly creep (slither) its way into Afghanistan after?

My apologies to any taliban following SD lovers, But..Wait.. They're not allowed to listen to SD!

And the women aren't allowed education, medical care, clear eyesight( unless they have xray eyes to see thru that heavy purdu they have to wear), They can be stoned at the hint of a rumor, for even talking to the opposite sex. They can't leave their homes with out escort. It is not against the law for a husband to beat his wife over nothing. As far as the "crimes" against women, the list seems to go on and on and on.

This and genital mutilation (Africa) are my 2 main issues. They both just sicken me, and at times bring me to tears.

Sorry for the Rant , folks. I just had to get this out.

BTW...Lets give it up for..(drum roll, please) newly independent Sen.Jeffords!!! ( my apologies to any conservative Republicans in the GB....Wait!... are they allowed to listen to SD?)

In the spirit of uninterrupted money flowing to Hollywood, please visit your favorite theatre over the weekend and be like Ben Affleck: Young and groomed to replace the mud-shark in your mythology.

Too Old? Pshaww! Pearl Harbor is almost 60 years old!

Go out and put some shine in your Japan!

Best Dishes,

SEMB

Hey Duncan --

Hysterical post - I drink, therefore I am !!, and so do I !!

Hey, do you know how to make the mu looking "m" character?

Do you know what I'm talking about ? Do ya ? Do ya ?

I'm trying to aMUse myself.

Steveedan

broteh boyyom here !!
Kneel the lesson for today isÉ.

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I must not give out personal addresses & websites.

Doh

Anyway back safe & sound at work now (no drink here)

Not a bad nights work I think & a perfect example of how not to play the game.
Duncan

Hey --

Do I look like chairman Meow ?

Anyway, I just figured out how I can use the mu looking "u" character. I just copied them from your post tonight and saved it in Word. Now I can use it wherever I want. Y'see, the complex stuff I can handle it's the easy junk that throws me every time.

µ See? I did it! µ µ Look !! I did it again !! And Again !!! Oh am I excited -- whoops, wet 'em again !!!

Now, if someone can post the mu looking "m" character, I am totally in business. Please, someone, do this for me.

My "blast" shields are up -- fire away.

Steveedan

Just stopped in to pay respect to Dylan on his birthday and I was fortunate enough to run into the account of Walt and Donald at Berklee by Boston Rag. Thanks, Boston Rag. Most worthy post.

I know there are other good posts here I haven't had time to read and I am sorry for not specifically praising those authors. You all know who you are. I appreciate all of you who pour out really worthwhile thoughts in this gbook which seems to have improved since I left it. Was there a connection there?

For those hardy souls like Clas who remember me and wonder where the hell I am, understand I will still drop in from time to time to keep you honest. But basically I'm working 1 and a half jobs and still trying to enjoy life and so I've had to make some hard choices on how I spend my time.

Tip: I just heard some stuff by a jazz singer named Kitty Margolis that knocked me out. Smart, great, pretty voice. Does the unexpected. Won't settle for less. Check her out.

And I heard Jane Monheit's Somewhere Over the Rainbow on the local jazz station and it was so pure I almost started crying in the car. Which messed up my aim when I took a shot at some dumb fuck who cut me off. But don't be alarmed. It's just Chinatown.

Steveeeeeeeeedan: Hold microphone in front of hungry cat. Enable feline voice recognition software. Shake bag of Friskies liberally. Copy and paste ad libitum.

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Went to a batchelor party last night in the San Fernando Valley, porn capital of the world. I almost never drink. Almost. Decorum prohibits me from expounding on the content of the entertainment, but, suffice it to say that the only thing left to the imagination was what the Stoli was doing to tweak my reality state. I was loaded with singles ($1 bills) when I went in, and when I left ... I was just loady-doady doaded.

Clas - Thanks for the reply on the songbook. Dr. Mu (if that is you with the "mu" looking "u") wonderful Diz bio. How do you make that Mu sign?

KD - My guess is that since we are deep into the NBA playoffs you have been up to your basketballs in work and stuff. Monday night's Lakers - Spurs game was unbelievable. Lakers pulled that win out of a hat! Yay LA. Hope to see you soon KD.

Howard - I will get to work on the chord stuff you mentioned earlier today and see if I can give you some voicings (spelled out, of course) and then you can see if you think they are correct or not. I'm going to download your Babylon Sisters tonight and check it out. This is one of my favorite Gaucho songs to play. Lots of fun, this one.

Stevie Dan - How are things going with you? Let us know when you feel it's appropriate (or just when you feel like it). Hope things are going well (better, I mean).

To everyone else, I hope all is well and that the Memorial Day weekend is fun for all.

With the long weekend that's coming up fast, let's get busy ... A mix of elegance and function ...

Steveedan

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Cooler weather today, 1 day to go....

Midnight Cruiser: Glad Opti made it through ok and you are both home and recovering.

Snake Hips: Silly you, trying to start a Dan thread.... :-)

Duncan: Nice pictures, cute baby and GREAT tee shirt!
I hope you did not compose that for 1 1/2 hours online. :-)

LP: How many seats are you booking again, for that trip? :-)

Blaise: Don't want to bring up an old thread again, but I finally got to hear the infamous 17 second mystery clip today. VERY smooth jazz. As a matter of fact, not exactly my prefered way to hear it. But interesting, none the less. Oh, and thanks for teaching me how to search the archives. Came in handy when I wanted to check out the 2nd Arrangement comments from last month.

One final question on Wetside Story. What is the instrument that plays at the very top of the song, just before the drum kicks in? Is it the lynx, the Fender Rhodes or something else? Very cool sound.

Good weekend to all and a safe trip to those who drive....

The wine girl....

Paging Kinky, ballah, aa, or even Clas...

Pleeeeeeeeaaaaaassssssssseeeeee

no.

we have a Viet Namese man and his younger Mexican helper building a fence for us right now.
he says, "NO!!!!I tell you, one bay, one ho"(one bag-of cement per one fence post hole) to the Mexican, and the Mexican just laughs at him...( it's so hot out )
and he has a very high pitched voice, so when he leaves, I am literally ROFL yelling at Hubby..NO NO YOU ihduh ONE BAY ONE HO!
my back is so right out, so I'm vicodined again, sorry for my silly posts.
I can't make much sense out of these posts lately, except that I know lp is the anon 85% of the time.
HI Cyn!! LOL
and Daddy
and Lise
and all of you friendlies
Hi Duncan.. cheers, yah toser!! ; )

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
gotta rest now... OWIES!!!
ONE BAY
ONE HO
sparkle in your China?

duncan: which one, love?

oh hell, it doesn't matter. i'll take him!

spelling mistakes = 00:15 + vodka

Blushing!
Twin broteh at boyyom of page
(went to bed got up again)
D

gina keep your grubby mitts off blaise. he doesn't need frosting.

midnightC: i just gotta say you sound like such a genuinely nice guy- how rare that is these days.

and duncan: you are more than a little cute. do you have a brother just laying around that you could send to america? you kids are english, right? yeah, send a hot brit for deprived american girls.

Duncan....beautiful family you have there! I really like your choice of shirts for the hospital shots. The boys would be proud! Congrats to you both on the birth of your son.

MC

Anybody who wants to see what me Linda Dan & look like & can't wait till next week
go to
http://users.breathemail.net/lindunk/ld2/

Cheers
D

Thanks Hank & MC... years, e-gad! Of course, I was measuring in hours, day, weeks, so years seems attainable...

If you get tired of the IB, send him my way!

I've been getting a number of frames of the rose-breasted grosbeaks. Should have some pics up in a week or two... (still using that archaic emulsion method.)

Took me a fucking hour and half to type that !!!

GB games 2001 version 1
Rules

This is my first draft so welcome any suggestions as to changes that need to be made

See what you think

GB drinking game
Rules
The Chairperson does not drink or smoke in this round (boo- hoo)
The appointed chairperson is in charge of choosing the text & is in sole charge.
The judge's decision is final

Round 1

The chairperson posts a line of text or sentence on the GB

The contestants have 3mins to post back the same sentence

Starting from the time posted

As a reward for that task they get to take a drink of their favourite tipple

This continues for several rounds (20 -30) depending on how many are playing.

DRINKS AFTER EVERY ROUND.

FOR ANY SPELLING MISTAKES OR BAD GRAMMER BY THE CONTESTANTS NAMED BY THE JUDGE THEY MUST DRINK DOUBLES.

ALL DECISIONS ARE AT THE JUDGES DISCRESION AND ARE TO BE OBAYED TOTALLY.

No contestants at this stage can be disqualified.

Drink brake

Round 2 The semi's

Contestants choose an opponent & post there own sentence or Dan based question aimed directly at them (no crashers) answers to be forwarded to the chairperson in advance in case they don't know them (as if)

MORE DRINKING BY EVERYBODY AFTER EVERY QUESTION.
ANY BAD SPELLING OR GRAMMAR BY ANY PARTY AT THIS STAGE MEANS DOUBLES AGAIN.

This continues for several rounds depending on how many contestants are playing.

The chairperson /judge is also included in this round
20 players = 10 rounds

Drink brake

Light your joints now everybody please. (Except the chairperson)

Right everybody ready

Round 3 the knockout

ALL DECISIONS ARE AT THE JUDGES DISCRESION AND ARE TO BE OBAYED TOTALLY.

The judge posts a word or words from a Steely Dan lyric each posting is accompanied with a free drink

The contestants have just 2 min to post back the following 3 lines, naming the song it came from and the year it was released

ANY GRAMMER OR SPELLING MISTAKES AT THIS POINT MEAN DISSQUALIFICATION THE JUDGES DESION IS FINAL.

Disqualified smoke another joint

This repeats till the chairperson & the winner is left
Drinking at every round completed.

Winner becomes chairperson next week.

Sure you could cut & paste everything but why would anybody do that.

Do anybody think this could work. If so when's the first game

Duncan

Midnight...we could be cousins!!!!!LOL! Arrival dates are simular.

that was supposed to read "a few minutes of Jimi on VH1"....been a long day and a half

tones....looks like we were on the same wavelength there buddy! I was catching up on the GB and didn't see your post on Zappa's Biography until after I made mine. Great minds do think alike eh?

I saw the last few minutes of Voyager last night in the hospital and wondered the same thing that you guys did. Maybe they're leaving it open for yet another Star Trek movie in which Janeway will come back and somehow end up in the Delta quadrant. It's more money for them and a chance at an explanation for last nights ending.

I also caught a few minutes of Jimi on Biography. Of all the shows I'd seen on him, I didn't realize he was born Johnny Allen Hendrix and his dad renamed him James Marshall Hendrix after Jimi's mom left them. Would love to have seen the whole show. Hopefully A&E will air it again sometime in the not too distant future.

Cyn....my branch of the Talbott family came from England in the 1820's. Don't know about the Irish connection.

WormTom....thanks for asking! everything went well and she's home and tottering around pretty much as usual. just a little sore. we did spent the night in the hospital because of a little post-pp nausea but came on home first thing this morning. napping in an upright chair all night was the pits. nice long nap when we arrived home this morning though and we're both doing great.

Edd...congrats on the smoke free month! Like Hank said, soon you'll be counting off the years.

Hank....thanks for the kind words on the buntings. we saw the male and female at the feeder together this afternoon for the first time ever. hope to have some more pics and eventually a decent webpage in the weeks and months ahead.

wish I had caught Skunk on PI last night. even if I disagree with his politics, I'd like to have seen the discussion.

speaking of A&E's Biography, I wonder if we could lobby them to re-air the show they did on Frank Zappa just after he died. I've only seen it aired the one time and didn't record it. I'd love to see it again.

JDubs....Where Art Thou Brother??? I miss hearing from you and sent an e-mail your way a couple of weeks ago. Hope you're feeling well and the hep hasn't readed it's ugly head again! Miss you bud!

ahhh, it's nice to be back in the groove again....MC

YES! Tones, that bothered me that she was going back to get herself a few years earlier than when she was supposed to get back? and if she died on the borg vessel, did it all really happen, i sided with the borg slime chick on that theory myself.

TIME ZONE GURU, where are you?

1. The A&E Biography on Hendrix sucked. The new VH1 Legends on JH is *much* better. I'd love to get the Zappa Biography on tape.

2. Just stopped into work to give a friend a break, and ended up working... ugh!

3. When Janeway and the crew made it back ok, that made any future trip back into the past to save Voyager unnecessary. But if she doesn't go back into the past, Voyager can't make it back. "Roll it over... roll it over in your mind..."

I'm going to have to ask the Time Zone Guru how that's possible.

4. Skunk was real worried about LA... heh heh.

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Chips your in

I'm working on the rules version 1
Later
Duncan

should be put in between Oscar Wilde and that's his full name. William Wilde, Oscar's father was from dutch origine btw. Oscar also wrote fairy tales, besides satire & novels .. The Happy Prince (1888) and Other Tales plus A House of Pomegranates (1891). I have both in dutch translation. Can really recommend it. They're weird tales, haha. Gotto love them!

another dutch or catholic holiday today .. a huge flee and antiques market .. stood next to a woman that had a face jogging bells in my memory .. i tried to visualize other hairstyles and suddenly i knew .. it was my first grade teacher when i was 6 years old .. she lived at a farm and took us there once .. i smelled the dirt when we entered the barn where the pigs stayed and i had to throw up .. the other kids weren't sick and got to ride on the tractor while i was recovering .. somehow i marked that day in my mind and it was funny seeing her after 31 years, me throwing up in a pigsty dug up from memory cave like it was yesterday, soooo vivid .. hm .. the mind's a strange thing, never ceazes to amaze, hm ..

Gilles Pie .. good one there Blaise ..:-))
should we ice it or make a chocolate coating, i wonder ..

found this old pocketbook, by author H.G. Wells .. mr Britling .. started reading and loved it .. about an American visiting the country his grandmother came from .. it doesn't say when the book was written or printed, i have to get into all that when i finished stuff that should have been out of the cleaners last week, mumble 3x

sh, a Steely Dan thread or dread, sometimes it might even be just that .. dreading the Dan, they're soooo intimidating .. dating? intimate?

aarrgghh. time to wait in front of an exclusive restaurant for people to come out. so i can have them like sushi ‡nd a four course dinner as well :)))

Banyan Back to Sun Mountain Bow,
G.

duncan - I! (shouldn't it be "Aye"?)

Aye, but only if Killer Monopoly is included in there somewhere.

Would anybody like to play a game ?

I'm still formulating the rules in my head but it would include some drinking some drugs & some typing.
There would be rounds then semi's & then a knockout to find the champ.

All interested say I

Duncan
Duncan

did anyone watch the series finale of voyager last night? it was great, wasn't it? wait, did i watch that, well, um....yeah....i did....LOSER!!!!

blasie, am i really up to 19 personas now, wow -

angel, ed, ge, b, jim, and aus are on my list as of this post

FD - Ah-hah. Thanks for the info. Whew!

That was way too much excitement for me this afternoon (yawn).
Thought maybe we could start a thread (albeit a short one) about Steely Dan. What a concept!

First that was not me posting under Cynic! I was busy warping the minds of the future Generation (5th graders). Believe me, I would be the first to say They deserve to be called legends (Steely Dan, not the 5th graders).

Hank...Well, it poked fun at the breeders/handlers...My Mom bred Labradors in Spain, She would have loved it. The Bloodhound and owner were my favorites in the cast. Wanna go fly fishin' sometime...?..LOL.

I wish we got the show "Good Eats" it sounds great!

I fell asleep and missed PI. But thru reading the reviews in here its seems to have come up 50/50. Sounds like Holland put Ms. Prissy GOP in her place. Al Franken has given plenty of laughs as a politcal Satirist.

Last day of School for my eldest...Had a fog school delay this morning. He was so pissed. First time in 13 yrs of schooling his was pissed about a school delay. I just laughed at the irony of it.

Snakehips- Don't send in the artillery yet. Steely Dan have their Publishing accounts with ASCAP. Everyone is either ASCAP, BMI or SESAC. My songs are BMI affiliated. Theses 3 organizations are the ones who collect the royalties and distribute them to the Artists.(not that I've seen big royalty checks). So, they weren't slighting our boys. In fact, nice of them to congratulate them....bet they wish they were affiliated with Steely Dan now.

What the ....?

So I get this BMI MusicWorld magazine at my desk. All about songwriters, etc. There's a couple pages on the most recent grammys, no SD mentioned. I search the whole mag and not a word. So I look on the back and there's a big CONGRATULATIONS to the 2001 RRHOF Inductees and then pics of Michael Jackson, Paul Simon, Ritchie Valens, Solomon Burke, The Flamingos, James Burton, Chris Blackwell and Queen. In small print beneath it says "BMI also joins the industry in congratulating Aerosmith, Johnnie Johnson and Steely Dan". Hhmmmmfff. We should go to BMI.com and bitch.

sh

ÇÇÇÇÇ § ÈÈÈÈÈ - no, not really. I try to keep an open mind but that kind of music just doesn't exist for me. It's not my waters, I wasn't down at 52nd Street at the time, so, I just let it be.

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Howard - shit, you should have seen this, I choosed the wrong printer when I printed out your tabs. The huge Roland Hi Fi Jet printer started printing (after the rip-proceeding) your tabs in a giant format.

Well, anyway, those chords will keep me busy 'til after the fall.

C, Ô à Õ

how many copies of 11-tow do i have to get?

Steely Dan worthy of a VH1 Legends show? Come on now. Aren't you taking the obsession a little too far?

µ - Gillespie, I just like saying that... he got his nickname for being dizzy-like, they say. Gillespie2 is a major dude, right wormy?

Clas - No thoughts on Dizzy?

Jimbo - Thanks for going out of your way not to write "Gillespie" again. Your wish for a Steely Dan tv "biography special" is an interesting idea I wish would be heard. After all, if they did it for Gillespie3...

angel, don't laugh... :o

1 As in Dizzy.
2 As in Gilles pie, Gina ..
3 That officially makes it 70 occurences ao far.

Stevedan - New Orleans was before Two Against Nature. The songbook extended to Gaucho. Bye the bye, it was a nasty book.

Thick.

Hell, couldn't sit at the piano playing and get the damn book stand still at the music stand. And turning the leaves while playing was impossible.

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Howard - "C9" = C E A Bb D, yeah, really! Cool stuff.

In fact, I went down to my job this Thursday night to print out the Babylon Sisters Tabs.

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Listened to Mike Mc Donalds album "If That's What It Takes". In "Love Lies" Steve Gadd is doing some great job with the left hand on hi hat and right hand altering from the ride-cymbal to the snare. In the fade Gadd is marking some syncopes who isn't there, just out in the blue, very funny. Ha ha.

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Music is a stumbling dangerous thing, that's why my heart will survive.

C

Dude, thanks for the info on Dizzy and the Politically Incorrect
shows.

God, I hope that A&E do a two hour Biography on Miles Davis.
That would be cool.

I also hope that VH1, if they're nice, will do a Legends show
on Steely Dan. Behind The Music won't do knowing Don and Walt won't divulge much of the dirt, except the part on Skunk.

Skunk seems so interested in missles, almost like it was a phallic symbol to him. Not surprising since missles are mostly shaped that way. He should spend more time with his guitar and
think about his way of pissing people off.

Word of the day: Gillespie (65 occurences so far)

¥ "This just in! Not only California but whole West Coast tumbled into the sea" In your dreams Blaiser. :-)

Damn, while we were wasting our time with Bill Mahr-on and Skunk A&E had a Biography of Oscar Wilde, champion of the British "aesthetic" movement of the late 19th Century who revolted against the drab order and manners of the Victorian age which he poked fun at constantly. The Importance of Being Earnest is probably the most well known example.

I looked on A&E's calendar through June and no repeat of Dizzie Gillespie's Bio is scheduled unfortunately So here's a nice biosketch:

Gillespie, Dizzy 1917 -- 1993
Jazz trumpeter and composer. Born John Birks Gillespie, on October 21, 1917, in Cheraw, South Carolina. Fifty years after helping found a new style of progressive jazz that came to be known as bebop, the music of Dizzy Gillespie is still a major contributing factor to the development of modern jazz. As a trumpet virtuoso Gillespie stands firmly as a major influence in the development of the jazz trumpet. His band was a virtual training ground for younger musicians. In 1990 he led and wrote the arrangements for a group that included bassist John Lee, guitarist Ed Cherry, drummer Ignacio Berroa, conga drummer Paul Hawkins, and saxophonist Ron Holloway. More than 40 years earlier Gillespie was the first bandleader to use a conga player. Employing Latin rhythms and forging an Afro-Cuban style of polyrhythmic music was one of Gillespie's many contributions to the development of modern jazz.

Before Gillespie there was New Orleans musician Buddy BoldenÑthe earliest known jazz cornetistÑwho was followed by King Oliver, Louis Armstrong, and Roy Eldridge. In his memoir, To Be or Not to Bop, Gillespie described the influence of Armstrong and Eldridge on his trumpet playing: "Roy Eldridge was a French-style trumpet player. Eldridge was in a direct line from Louis Armstrong, and he was the voice of that era, the thirties. I hardly ever listened to Louis, but was always aware of where Roy's inspiration came from. So I was looking at Louis Armstrong, you see, because they are one and the same. My inspiration came through Roy Eldridge, from Louis Armstrong and King Oliver and Buddy Bolden. That's the way it happened."

Gillespie played with bands in Philadelphia from 1935 to 1937 before moving to New York. In Philadelphia, where his family had moved from Cheraw, South Carolina, Gillespie learned Eldridge's trumpet solos from fellow trumpeter Charlie Shavers. It was then that Gillespie earned his nickname for his erratic and mischievous behavior. When Gillespie was in the Frankie Fairfax band in Philadelphia he carried his new trumpet in a paper bag; that inspired fellow musicians like Bill Doggett to call him "Dizzy." While Gillespie himself acknowledged the paper bag incident, but he said the nickname didn't stick until later.

Gillespie's basic style of solo trumpet playing at that time involved "running them changes"Ñimprovising on chord changes in a song and introducing new chord changes based on the song's melody. He had taught himself piano and used the instrument to experiment with new melodies and chord changes. When he went to New York in 1937 he did not have a specific job, but was introduced to other musicians by Shavers. Gillespie joined in jam sessions, sometimes after hours at clubs in Harlem like Monroe's Uptown House and Dicky Wells's. He would also sit in with bands; while jamming one night with Chick Webb's band at the Savoy Ballroom, Gillespie met Mario Bauza, a Cuban trumpeter who introduced him to Latin rhythms.

Within a year Gillespie was hired by the Teddy Hill Orchestra for a European tour when the regular trumpet player didn't want to go. Hill probably liked Gillespie's style, which was similar at that time to Roy Eldridge's; Eldridge had left Hill's band to join Fletcher Henderson. By 1937Ñwhen he was only 19ÑGillespie had already made a name for himself among New York musicians, who couldn't help but notice his radically fresh take on solo trumpet playing: he utilized the upper register of notes above high C, played with great speed, and used new rhythms and chord changes. Gillespie made his first recordings with the Teddy Hill Orchestra just prior to leaving for Europe on "The Cotton Club Show."

Gillespie joined the Cab Calloway Orchestra in 1939 and stayed until 1941. He wrote in his memoir, "It was the best job that you could possibly have, high class." Calloway played the Cotton Club and toured extensively. During this period Gillespie continued to play all-night jam sessions at Minton's and Monroe's Uptown House to develop his musical knowledge and style. In 1939 the most in-demand trumpet players for recording dates in New York were Eldridge, Shavers, and Buck Clayton. Gillespie was fourth on the list, but somehow managed to land a recording date with Lionel Hampton, which resulted in the famed "Hot Mallets" session. In this session Gillespie became the first musician to record in the modern jazz style with a small group. Lionel Hampton said of the session, as quoted in Gillespie's book, "[Gillespie] came out with a new style, came out with a bebop style. He came out with a different style than we'd ever heard before. A lot of people don't know that was the creation of bebop, the beginning of bebop." Of course, it wasn't called bebop just yet.

Gillespie left Calloway in 1941 following a misunderstanding. During a performance someone from the vicinity of the trumpet section was having fun aiming spitballs at the bandleader, who was singing in front of the band at the time. Naturally Calloway assumed Gillespie was responsible. By most accounts, however, Gillespie was completely innocent and had been set up. Words led to action; Gillespie pulled a knife on Calloway and actually cut him a few times. While the two later reconciled and remained friends, Gillespie was forced to leave the band. This well-known incident illustrates the flip side of Gillespie's jovial personality; he often found himself in situations where he might need to defend himself, and was fully prepared to do so.

Gillespie joined the Earl "Fatha" Hines band in 1942, about the same time Charlie Parker did. Although Parker became famous as an alto saxophonist, he was playing tenor sax at that time. Gillespie first met Parker in Kansas City in 1940 when he was on tour with Cab Calloway. The two of them jammed together at the Booker T. Washington Hotel for several hours. Gillespie ventured in To Be or Not to Bebop, "I guess Charlie Parker and I had a meeting of the minds, because both of us inspired each other." They spent a lot of time together during their stint with the Hines band.

By the time he joined Hines, Gillespie had composed "A Night in Tunisia," one of his most famous songs. He was also writing arrangements for other bandleaders, including Hill, Calloway, Jimmy Dorsey, and Woody Herman. He wrote bebop arrangements, as most bandleaders at that time were interested in having one or two bebop numbers in their repertoires. Several musicians have commented that even if Gillespie had not been able to play the trumpet, he could have made a name for himself on the basis of his original compositions and arrangements. Other jazz standards credited in whole or in part to Gillespie include "Groovin' High," "Manteca," "Woody `n You," "Con Alma," and "Salt Peanuts."

A large part of the Earl Hines band departed in 1943 to form a new group headed by Billy Eckstine. Former Hines members who joined Eckstine included Sarah Vaughan, Gillespie, Parker, and others. The band also featured saxophonists Gene Ammons and Dexter Gordon. Gillespie became musical director for Eckstine, whose backers got him a job on 52nd Street. Gillespie stayed with Eckstine for about seven months, touring and playing on 52nd Street. "The Street," as it was described by critic Pete Migdol in Gillespie's memoir, "was the hippest block with regard to its short distance and that amount of music.... This was the top talent street, and it was, of course, discoverer of a lot of the new people for that era."

After leaving Eckstine, Gillespie substituted in the Duke Ellington Orchestra for about four weeks, then formed his own group to play at the newly opened Onyx Club on 52nd Street. Gillespie had been playing bebop whenever he could since 1940, the year he married Lorraine Willis. Now he was able to play it full time. 52nd Street became the proving ground for a new jazz style that had previously been played primarily at late night jam sessions.

"The opening of the Onyx Club represented the birth of the bebop era," Gillespie recalled in his book. "In our long sojourn on 52nd Street we spread our message to a much wider audience." His first quintet at the Onyx Club in 1944 included Oscar Pettiford on bass, Max Roach on drums, George Wallington on piano, and Don Byas on tenor sax. Gillespie had tried to get Parker to join, but he had temporarily returned to Kansas City.

Also in 1944 Gillespie received the New Star Award from Esquire magazine, the first of many awards he would receive in his career. Describing the new style his quintet played, Gillespie wrote, "We'd take the chord structures of various standard and pop tunes and create new chords, melodies, and songs from them." For example, Tadd Dameron's composition "Hothouse" was based on "What Is This Thing Called Love," and Parker's "Ornithology" came out of "How High the Moon." Gillespie also noted, "Our music had developed more into a type of music for listeners." There would be little dancing to bebop. Rhythm and phrasing, however, were also important to the new jazz style. "The most important thing about our music was, of course, the style, how you got from one note to another, how it was played.... We had a special way of phrasing. Not only did we change harmonic structure, but we also changed rhythmic structure."

Gillespie's quintet also played other clubs, including the Downbeat and the Three Deuces, where the group included Charlie ParkerÑby then on alto saxÑand Bud Powell on piano. Gillespie also played for two months in Hollywood with Parker, vibraphonist Milt Jackson, bassist Ray Brown, pianist Al Haig, and drummer Stan Levy. This was the West Coast debut of bebop and it was very well received. In fact, it was around this time that the term "bebop" came into use. Gillespie recalled, "People, when they'd wanna ask for one of those numbers and didn't know the name, would ask for bebop. And the press picked it up and started calling it bebop. The first time the term bebop appeared in print was while we played at the Onyx Club."

Gillespie's quintet and the presentation of modern jazz in that format reached its apex in 1953Ñwith a concert at Massey Hall in Toronto that featured Gillespie, Parker, Powell, Roach, and legendary jazz bassist Charles Mingus. As Roach recalled in Gillespie's memoir, "The five people that Dizzy had originally thought about in the group at the Onyx didn't really materialize until we did Jazz at Massey Hall, that album, in 1953." Billed by jazz critics as "the greatest jazz concert ever," it was recorded by MingusÑa last-minute substitute for PettifordÑand later released on Debut Records.

From the big bands and orchestras that he first organized in the late 1940s, to the small combos of the early 1950s that served as incubators for young musicians like saxophone giant John Coltrane, Gillespie's influence consistently defined modern jazz. Though the enterprise was short-lived, Gillespie had his own record label, Dee Gee Records, from 1951-53. He appeared at the historic first Newport Jazz Festival in 1954. And he later played the role of unofficial ambassador of jazz, beginning with a 1956 world tour sponsored by the U.S. State Department. These are just a few of the many accomplishments highlighting the career of this remarkably accomplished titan of contemporary American music.

In 1989, the year he became 72 years of age, Dizzy Gillespie received a Lifetime Achievement Award at the National Association of Recording Arts and Sciences' Grammy Award ceremonies. The honorÑone of many bestowed on the trumpet virtuosoÑrecognized nearly 50 years of pioneering jazz performances. That same year he received the National Medal of Arts from President George Bush "for his trail-blazing work as a musician who helped elevate jazz to an art form of the first rank, and for sharing his gift with listeners around the world."

Not letting age slow him down, in 1989 Gillespie gave 300 performances in 27 countries, appeared in 100 U.S. cities in 31 states and the District of Columbia, headlined three television specials, performed with two symphonies, and recorded four albums. He was also crowned a traditional chief in Nigeria, received the Commandre d'Ordre des Artes et LettresÑFrance's most prestigious cultural awardÑwas named regent professor by the University of California, and received his fourteenth honorary doctoral degree, this one from the Berklee College of Music. The next year, at the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts ceremonies celebrating the centennial of American jazz, Gillespie received the American Society of Composers, Authors, and Publishers' Duke Award for 50 years of achievement as a composer, performer, and bandleader.

Although his health was failing due to pancreatic cancer, Gillespie continued to play the music that he loved late in his life. His last public appearance was in Seattle in February of 1992. Gillespie passed away quietly in his sleep on October 6, 1993 at the age of 75.

11 whacky reasons why it's really quiet

¥ Music, McVeigh, Marijuana... guys, any more Ms left?
¥ Lady Bayside, we hardly knew ye
¥ asshole has gone 180 degrees and became a eunuch
¥ eLLe chatting with eLLe was too much for eLLe to bear. eLLe est partie
¥ This just in! Not only California but whole West Coast tumbled into the sea
¥ LP charted a plane to Tokyo for her hubby and her 19 characters, group discount, you know (that should make 38 japanese 11TOW, one for everyone)
¥ Blazed sizzling burned-out engine runs on hard to find hydroponic fuel exclusively
¥ Wormy's too busy assessing topsoil land
¥ Gina started by eating her own fingers, got Gaucho to type, ate Gaucho ..
¥ Boy... Skunk really stunk up the joint

Jimbo: Another Good Eats fan here...it's the only Food TV show I watch. Anybody who can make interesting a show about tofu is OK by me. "3 Chips For Sister Marsha" is more my style -- some people search for the perfect wave; I'd rather have the perfect chocolate chip cookie.

Cyn: I thought Best In Show was mostly funny, but some acquaintances of mine who show their collies didn't agree. (For some reason...)

Midnite: Pat + I agree the indigos are great -- you must have broken down and gotten that expensive equipment. One of those pics is now wallpaper on the HP at home.

lp: Happy anniversary, if one day late. You 2 have made it twice through the 7-year itch, so it sounds like you're going to be OK...

Edd: Speaking of happy anniversaries -- good on ya, mate. Soon, you'll be counting them off in years.

Good morning all....

Blaise: No, I don't think I have it all right, but I do think I have some valid points. It's my story and I am sticking with it. :-)

LP: In all the emails yesterday I forgot to wish you a happy Anniversary. Congratulations! Oh, and watch out for Mae, Mae...

Jimbo and µ: Thanks for the Skunk report, appreciate it.

KD: WHERE ARE YOU!

Howard: Sounds like a great idea, trying to research Steely chords. :-)

Gina: Got me with the eyes comment yesterday. Eweeeee! (Gaucho says, Thanks but no thanks).

I think Memorial Day weekend is starting to take it's toll on the GB already. Less foot traffic.

Good day all....

Who scheme and run wild? (for Mae, Mae)

Clas (also Steveedan, Lisa G) - it's a shame that it's not straight forward for keyboard players to read the chord voicings from guitar charts. The chord names will get you half way there, but some of the voicings are so critical to get the right sound ...

Maybe someone should cook up a program that will read in (ascii text) guitar chord diagrams and spit out keyboard-friendly voicings?

A few thoughts on my Babylon Sisters chords (http://www.jmdl.com/howard/steelydan/tab.html):

any "maj6/7" chord should be spelled: root, 3rd, 6th, 7th
e.g Ebmaj6/7 = Eb G C D

(you could also think of it as Csus2/Eb)

any "m11" should use the SD-default voicing: root, b7, b3, 4
e.g Dm11 = D C F G

most of the "9" chords are spelled: root, 3rd, b7, 9

BUT - the great thing you can do on the keyboard, (but can't on guitar), is stick in the 6th right under the nose of the b7. This is the classic Gaucho-style "9" chord (you'd probably call it 9add6 or maybe 13 ...).

e.g "C9" = C E A Bb D

Nice!

Quite a lot of the chords used throughout Gaucho (and some on Aja) use this trick - slap in a dissonant semitone in the middle of a chord.

"... sounds good to me"

Howard

P.S I really must take a year off to research the birth and evolution of some of these Steely Dan chords!

angel dear - Mick tries to remember sippin' kinda cool [which is the moment before he "blacks out"].
"Fell into animal time" simply means that the id took over Mick's psyche there for a moment. I don't hear drink, girl, bloody but it's all in the ear of the beholder and we will probably never know for sure unless they release it next.
I'm sticking to my temporary insanity plea, your Honor...

cara mia - I'm just making up for the unexplained lack of Big Fan presence here. I thought someone should take over. I realize times will get rough for the news hounds until there is some new Dan activity to report. We have been spoiled there for a good year and a half, I must say. Thanks for the kind words.

Btw, Gopher, it's not always this easy. Articles that are not yet archived, for example, usually don't show up on search engines.

You mean Maher didn't ask Skunk for his take on Rikki? He didn't go "Shut up and play yer guitar" as he should have? What a loser. Frankly, I'm surprised this show is still on the air but considering the time slot... oh well... there are always transcripts...

No, I wore a Magnum XL condom.

Name: Wetslide Story


Date: Wednesday, May 23, 19101 at 22:36:42
Comments:

Among other things, I really enjoyed our sex, it was very satisfying. As I've said, I just wish you didn't live so far away. But maybe it's just as well that you do, because if I were to see you more, I'd probably start feeling more attached.

Jimbo: I missed the first two minutes, but I saw tonight's PI show as two battles.

One: Maher vs. Skunk on SDI. Franken didn't have much to say and admitted he wasn't as up on the tech, though tongue in cheek I'm sure. Maher's "diaphragm" argument for not spending some R&D $ on SDI was lame. Why not preach abstinence only in the schools? Oh, yeah. They are. Fell into animal time. Or why not this argument: Seatbelts are not effective 100% of the time, so let's cut them. Oh, yeah. They tried that with Dale Earnhardt. Lock the front and back door Skunk held his own, IMO.

BTW, a Chinese official did say that in '96 - he may have been on LSD. However, Chinese missles do have our guidance systems now and some are pointed at Bill Maher's studio and could actually hit them - which may not be all bad. As long as none are pointed at River Sound or Hawaii...

Two: Marjorie got her clock cleaned by Franken with Skunk and Maher wisely on the sidelines. Marjorie was unaware that W, or is it Laura, is asking for a record increase in spending on Education.

But don't take our word(s) for it. Transcripts are available on the PI site by Friday or Monday

Tired of guys who say...I want to spend the rest of my life with you, I love you...when what they mean is...I'll tell you whatever I have to because you're gorgeous and I want to bed a girl like you! Honesty would be nice. Romance is a must... and I don't
mean just until the engagement! If you're marrying just to have maid service and a free piece PLEEEASE take me OFF your list! No bad breath or body odors... Handsome and fit would be nice but a true, kind, and loving heart is far more important to me. I've had enough dishonest pretty boys to last me a lifetime. Please don't send me any more. I want a kind, true hearted, spiritual, romantic gentleman who's at least as financially stable and responsible as I am. You don't need to be a mega-jock, but you do need to be willing to get out there and join me in activities that I enjoy and vice-versa. (I'm not looking to get married because I want to be alone.) I'm not saying smother me either... I'm just saying be my companion, my best friend, my sharer of life's burdens and joys and I will not fail to be the same for you. Sorry to be so blunt, but that is what I want in a nutshell and it's not looking like they make men like that anymore.

I forgot:

Earlier I slammed Bill Maher for his skills as a host. Tonight,
on a rare occasion, he did a fine job. I may not like him or his skills of mixing politics with comedy, but I think he did a fine job, especially questioning Skunk's state of mind.

Like I said, I missed some of what was said because I was flipping between PI and "Good Eats" on the Food Network.

Good Eats I can tolerate better because it mixes food, food history and science with a lot of humor.

So, I think I'll stick with Good Eats.

Did anybody see it? Also, was the subject of the Senate
crisis brought up. Majorie's probably having PMS by now.
Skunk's mustache must have fallen ;)

Al Franken, well-respected artist?

Go back to picking on 19-year olds, Jimbo.

I just got done watching some of Politically Incorrect while switching to Good Eats. After hearing what Skunk and the GOP
activist Majorie Stoyer had to say about the missle situation and the taxes. Here's my comments:

Skunk says that China was planning to bomb Los Angeles?
Huh? Geeze! That's as wierd as anything that Michael Jacksons'
done lately. I liked the way Al Franken made fun of the nickname
Skunk.

Majorie was constantly shouting at Holland Taylor who had better
applauses than her. Hey, better an older, sexier judge on a fictional show than a
whiny, stuck-up cussing Republican Barbie. Heck, even Allison Janney would have eaten Marjorie for lunch.

As for the tax thing, Marjorie says that she would not have tax dollars spent for education. Half the country is turning dumb,
SAT scores suck, people are watching more wrestling and this Laura Ingraham wanna-be doesn't want her money spent on education just because she doesn't have kids? Am I wrong or is she on LSD AND PCP?

Skunk says nothing about the tax plan. Possibly picking his nose during the discussion. But he does say that Janet Reno
should not run for Governor of Miami.

Skunk was weak and weird
Marjorie was a whiny little moussedup brat
(Shame on you for cussing out Mr. Franken)
Holland Taylor held her ground
Al Franken blew Skunk and Marjorie out of the sky.

Advice for Skunk, lay off the crackpipe.
Advice for Marjorie,lay off the mousse, stop acting like Ingraham
or that other prick Lynne Cheney, and control your language
when speaking to a well respected artist like Mr. Franken.

That right-wing huey sure stunk up the joint.

schwinn?

Good evening all, got to 105 here at home....

Ok, the following is my interpretation of Wetside Story. As Blaise already pointed out, we will never know for sure, but it has been fun playing with it. Oleander, I know you are probably not watching, but I am sending it out anyway, so that it can be archived, just in case it turns up on "The Next One".

Wetside Story

Stop, Mickey gets hungry
Dirt wrangler's got to take a break some time
Got to feed the machine
Steamer Heaven is empty
Couple of kids in behind the counter
The lovely Janine
Soon as he walks in the door she's smilin'
Covers his eyes with his hands

Chorus
'Cause everyone knows that it's scary out there
When you jump to the wetside
Where it's cold and it's loud and it's screaming with light
Where it's way complex
Hacking through all the harsh effects

The Mick goes for a Bomber
Who wants to walk with an angel who's healing
We're gonna talk
Gives him back a reward
A few bloody tears and you can feel the flames arching
Off the roof of the shop
For a moment they swung on the edge of history
Fell into animal time

Chorus

Blacked out on the tarmac
It was alive with the sweet sounds of summer
Oh, the Steamer's all right
Mick tries to remember
Somethin' kinda cool but it's already fading
To straight black & white
"Maybe I needed a girl at downtime"
Covers his eyes with his hands

Chorus

Verse 1.
I go along with the computer geek scenario. Mick gets hungry and stops over at the Steamer Heaven. Janine, smiles at him and he totally freaks out, covering his eyes with his hands.

The very critical Verse 2
Mick orders some food and Janine decides that he needs something more physical than food alone. Things get pretty hot and with the climatic (literally) "Fell into animal time". The deed is done.

Verse 3
Mick just totally overloads and blacks out. The line about the Steamer being all right refers back to verse 2 and the fact that the fire, was indeed, inside Mick himself and not the building.
Then the final thought about needing a girl at downtime, causes him to cover his eyes with his hands once again. Obviously, he hasn't gotten over his fear, yet. (My money though, is on the lovely Janine).

That's it.

Night all....

and it's screaming with light....

Time for another video review (just in case Mother Nature decides to rain on your parade this week end)

1. Vertical Limit
Edge of your seat movie! With just the right touch of humor. Makes you wonder WHY people scale mountains with only a rope and a few toggle hooks.

2.Best in Show
First, if you have ever been to a dog show, I won't go any further. You will understand this movie completely.
This is one of the quirkiest movies I watched since Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Fred Willard is hysterical!

extra large popcorn...1.50
med popcorn.....1.39

large drink...1.50
med drink...1.39

raisinets...1.50
jujubee's...1.75

jujubee's with extra juju...(Chere, how much is the extra juju this weekend?)

dano..you mean he doesn't do his radio sydication - "It's a Rotten Day" any more???
Have you heard it? Last time I heard it, was in Canada.
He does a 5-10 minute segment per day and announces Celebs' birthdays, and then of course slags the *beep* outta them, very funny, not quite as raw as he used to be.
But speaking of Punk, this months Spin magazine is celebrating 25 years of Punk. I got the magazine in the mail today but I heard it first, by email, from the "Secret Society of the Buzzcocks"(LOL) newsletter
but we all know they've changed their name to the Buzzcunts, since one of their b-side songs, 'What do I get', gave them a boost, being used in a SUV commericial, which you probably don't get over there.(?) ( The one where he pulls up to a camping spot and lets the bear out of his SUV and everyone runs away and he gets the girl)
Alot of car commericials are using b-sides of older bands right now, it seems to be a trend. The guy who writes the BC's news letter- John Lennon, seriously, that's his name, did a study about it.

BTW, if you missed the tv program about children, left in Crysler SUV's and then pulling the gear out of PARK and the van rolling down the driveway and ..well... PARENTS BEWARE, Crsyler SUV's DO NOT have anti-lock breaking, a 9 dollar item that Crysler didn't put in, meaning that you don't have to press the breaks with your foot to switch gears, all you need to do is 'pull the handle'
(what a child would do)...even on a slight slope..there goes the van, children and all. Ok just thought I'd be Nader-ish : )
seriously, very important info if you have small children imo

Anyhoooo, Chips, what can I do for you? : ) ; ) :D LOL ?

Steveedan..my son is now 19. He's alot like Jack of Speed.
It's kind of you to ask, but I'd rather not talk about it (in here)thanks : )

peas

Yeah, you be da linkman!

xoxoxoxoxoxox

http://search.metacrawler.com/crawler?general=politically%20incorrect

http://abc.go.com/primetime/politicallyincorrect/pi_home.html

or look MetaCrawler in its eyes and it will cough up all you want on P.I

Enjoy ..

Anyone know how I can access Politically Incorrect on the Net, or even just listen in?

Damn, this is ANOTHER reason I hate living in the bible belt, where the local ABC affiliate does not carry Politically Incorrect. I love Al Franken's wit. My ex got his autographed copy of _Rush Limbaugh is a Fat Idiot_. I know he will be ready for the Skunkster. Can't believe you think Bill M is sexy, lp. His head is huge, literally, and his shoulders are too narrow on his little frame. Bleeccchhhh...

Blaise--thanks for all the links. You keep things rolling here these days as the unofficial GB master of ceremonies.

Wormy and Aja--nice to see y'all.

Aus--you give a party one week after I am in NYC? Phooey.

Schwinn--nice Joni quote
"Written on your spirit, this sad song..."

L-U-V,
cara mia

******i got a girl and ruby is her name ******

hey Edd, there are times to quite and there are times to just go, so way to go quitting Edd!

You should go up in the mountains and get yourselves some pure clear mountain air, Edd. Then take some home in a bag or three, save them for a rainy day and plunge right in when you feel like celebrating again!

"no more tobacco
no more polish white!!! toothpaste
no more broken cigarettes in your pockets
and more money to spend on music?"

From:

> For those of you who may be interested, Cynthia Calhoun will be performing
> tomorrow [Thur, 5.24.01] from 2:00 - 3:00 PM EST with the Sunnie Paxson
> Band.
>
> It will be broadcast live via the internet at http://wucf.ucf.edu
>

Empty Void of Space - twisted Euclidian beyond the Meridian of the Event Horizon - it's your Ma collect from Verizon

like a rose
we used to play when we were three

Smooth Dan on Monterey WebRadio LOL

Sorry to say, you don't use a name either. neither do i but I don't pretend like I do, unlike you.

At least they HAVE names, more than you can say for yourself.

But then how does one name a nothing?

i'm hopeless .. any excuse will do .. have just reached 1132 words of something that requires 2000 and figured i could start up the banyan fire :-) and stretch my fingers .. so i smiled nicely, my webbrowser woke up etc etc.

to find what .. Chips, Chips, Chips & Chips???
what's the matter, you're usually not so "there" as in "here", dear Chippie ..
read something nice about Bob Dylan and Joey Ramone in the cyber NY Times. was linked via RLJ, she sang a Dylan song last weekend ..

Monterey Smooth Jazz Webradio has nice music ..
Pat Metheny ..

great Top Tens :-)
shifting to Kamikiriad, 11TOW and Nightfly ..
to explain my Danned state of mind reeling in years ..
it was kind of hanging in the seventies ..

tea break's over.
G.

a joke, a joke, duh?

HUH?

...so how about that chord progression on Peg?.....

Yeah but you'd need a taker.

Ah, so YOU'RE Flipper, oh okay, I get it....I ust knew it was an alter-ego of SOMEBODY, kudos, we love Flipper!

I'll take it. I've done a complete 180 and I could give a fuck...

I'd name the next five down the list.

Yes, but WOULD you do without us? You would have nothing to say here!

Name five I can hardly stand to hear including one chips who's there.

jimbo, not be confused with jim-pound: personally, i am in love with bill maher but i have to behave so i won't go on - when is this showing again?

sh: lol, i won't even attempt to illustrate herein my japanese language pursuits or i'll have the anti-japanese-bashing coalition (ajap-bc) after me, not be confused with the current anti-establishment up against the pending release of the movie "pearl harbor"

thanks steveedan - i agree on the loss of nuclear family though i am against staying in destructive relationships just to hold a family together, but i'm sure that comment has now raised a few eyebrows in here so the postings will be flying now - actually, separation is so prevelant now that when my husband and i do fight (marriage is fight for constant supremacy in my house - like the honeymooners) my 8 year old says "hey are you going to get divorced?" sometimes said in a sad way that breaks our heart and sometimes in a happy way (as in she gets two houses, and it gives her a plot to get us back together like in disney films) which makes us wonder about her tv viewing

i too have missed those wormy lists, thanks! see flipper, you can't leave now, look who you have brought back! and i liked Chips' test, couldn't have done it better myself (should i be committed or what) - ROFL

sorry, rough day today here in dog catcher mayberry world.....hehehe

So, if Skunk is going to be on PI and it's live, I wonder how
he's going to handle Mr. Al Frankin in light of certain events in the Senate. Poor Skunky, looks like he'll be crying in his
mustache :)

I just can't wait to see the look on Skunk's face. Same with Bill Maher since he's such a prick.

Personally, I'd like to see Mitch Albom go up against Skunk and Bill Maher. Mitch Albom should host PI. He's has more sarcasm and charm than that so-called stand up comic Bill Maher. Maher
has a face you'd just like to slap. ;)

got to close the cyberconnection down for i'm too destracted this way :-))))))

LOVE board: H I L A R I O U S
Flipper, the song: Likewise

Banyan Tree Sure We're Not On Laughing Gazzz? Bow
G.

Don't mind if I Kurtsie? Can you believe Coppola couldn't fit my whole image on 70mm film? Hey, leave poor Skunk alone and his missle-hugging lifestyle! Did he not play a great slide solo on Razor Boy or the angst-ridden run on Rikki? If he hadn't blown me up during the 7th reel, there's not telling how fucking long Apocalypse Now would have been!

Brut and Napalm is Friday's theme.

Come back Altamira

There's another fag on the GB

top ten warnings to newbies

12) the danger on the rocks is never surely past
11) if you hear "everyone's gone to the movies, now we're alone in chat" be afraid
10) St Al is a neat hands off moderator, don't be offended if he doesn't personally answer your every whim
9) your age, sexual orientation or marital status are not discriminatory items here
8) you can wax eloquently on Dan songs anytime you like here
7) your favorability factor is usually inversely related to the your amount of bandwidth
6) don't be offended if no one seems to be responding to your posts initially
5) a good way to test the waters is the archives
4) less is more
3) responding jovially to someone flaming you is commendable
2) responding flamingly to someone being jovial is not
1) throw back the little ones, pan fry the big ones

LP - happy anniversary! my husband and i have two anniversarys and never know which one to acknowledge... are you brushing up on your Japanese?

~~~ - i've missed those "top tens"

flipper - hmmm, you've got me humming "sweet transvestite" from rocky horror. hey, are you really tim curry? ;-)

sh

(for st. al)
get off at funway west
drive into springtime...

you sunk my battleship!

newbie alert
any request polls eminating from Chips or LP (Luckless Pedestrian) are strictly optional.
Ignore them at will.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

Love, exciting and new
Come Aboard. We're expecting you.
Love, life's sweetest reward.
Let it flow, it floats back to you.
The Love Board soon will be making another run
The Love Board promises something for everyone
Set a course for adventure,
Your mind on a new romance.
Love won't hurt anymore
It's an open smile on a friendly shore.
Yes LOVE! It's LOVE!
Love Board soon will be making another run
The Love Board promises something for everyone
Set a course for adventure,
Your mind on a new romance.
Love won't hurt anymore
It's an open smile on a friendly shore.
It's LOVE! It's LOVE! It's LOVE!
It's the Love Board-ah! It's the Love Board-ah!

Flipper, lighten up! You don't come onto a Steely Dan site with the name "Flipper" and cyber-giggle through your posts and expect not to be just a little harassed! It's okay, people here don't really care about other people's personal choices, we are more concerned with your opinion on the following:

skunk baxter's take on missile defense spending
the difference between a&e's treatment of jazz performers and pbs'
the chord change at minute 2:08 in Peg
the reason for the choice of cathy berberian in the lyric in your gold teeth
what will happen if we play the berklee concert and/or speeches backwards

And just for our entertainment, answer the following:
Are you really Blacksgirl? (god help us all if that's yes)
Do you live in Miami or Key West? (with apologies to david)
Are you a refugee from the Dionne Warwick site? (sorry Burt, these things happen, it's cool)

Don't be sensitive, it's fun to have you here, people are sick of my Ramones take anyway.....thanks to whoever posted the lyrics, my point exactly.

They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning,
No-one you see, is smarter than he,
And we know Flipper, lives in a world full of wonder,
Flying there-under, under the sea!
Everyone loves the king of the sea,
Ever so kind and gentle is he,
Tricks he will do when children appear,
And how they laugh when he's near!
They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning,
No-one you see, is smarter than he,
And we know Flipper, lives in a world full of wonder,
Flying there-under, under the sea!
Just kidding, buddie... JUST KIDDING...

top ten reasons skunk will never be politically correct

12)right wing hueys sure stink up the joint
11)taking over the show to the tune of The Green Berets is sure to get the ratings up
10) let's see, start out in a Dildo, reincarnate to a Doobie, then your the wonderkid of missle defense - oh, the fruedian envy
9) is he or is he not through with the buzz?
8) you think the amphibian assault on Cleveland was big, wait till you see Skunk's SD desecration, coming to R&RHoF Summer 01
7) who worries about critism when you're a consultant for the missle defense system?
6)never signed the intra-band data clauses
5) his Countdown to Ectasy involves a red button and synchronized turning of keys
4)the rumours that he left the band because he felt the Katy Lied cover depicted cruelty to insects were greatly overstated
3)that hole in the ground where they used to grow is now a missle silo
2) already owns a chain of steamer heavens
1) Minute By Minute By Minute Man

maybe Chips should go to Tokyo too - LOL

Are you trying to be mean to me Chips???
Lots of so called good citizens live their lives being hypocrite about what they do and don't and like or dislike. I don't hurt anyone with my lifestyle, so I don't see why you should make fun of me like that!!!!! I can tell a joke from malice and you're not funny. Go wrap yourself in a newspaper and don't forget about the fish now Chips!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ritchie Lamont

Hi Luckless Pedestrian --

Congratulations on your 14th Wedding Anniversary. Considering the recent news items concerning the dwindling nuclear family in America, I must be among those who stop to take notice of your familial milestone. It's been 10 years for my marriage, and it seems like just yesterday and 10 lifetimes all rolled up into one. So Congrats.

"Some say that we're reckless, they say we're just too young, tell us to stop before we've begun ..."

Well "Maxine", it seems you are holding on quite well. Here's to many more happy years of marital bliss.

Steveedan

Would somebody do a search and post the lyrics to Flipper from the tv show?

Hello Danfans, thanks for welcoming me on your precious board.
I did it. I sent in my pic for your gallery and received a nice reply from StAl. To be in the clear about a few things, I'm no threat to any of the male population around here or anywhere for that matter!!!!!!!! Although happily single for the moment, I do date girls and women but must confess I did have a fling or two with men once. But they're off limits, not natural. Sad news is none of my relationships worked out when I came clean about me. Didn't I read about relationships at work here recently??? I'm never going to get involved with a collegue anymore, that's for sure. Should not post too personal, I forgot.
My brothers Seth and Mark listened to Steely Dan, Pink Floyd, Rory Gallagher, Jeff Beck etcetera etcetera. I had friends who listened to all kinds of music, I never really got stuck somewhere, I like mainstream and contemporary music. Kind of depending the company I was in, you know. Never been to any concerts. And not a die hard or anything. I'm amazed at what some of you people know about Steely Dan!!!!!!!! God, do I like being here. Funny, it's not as if my social life's down the tubes. Why do I feel like explaining myself all the time????????? Dressed for the evening now and to answer the question of Worm (?) how about Maxine????
Sincerely, Flipper

lunch?

what a great job i have; paid big bucks to surf the internet all day. latest search result:

"A mere six months after the dissolution of the Ben Folds Five, singer/songwriter/pianist Ben Folds has finished a new album, Rockin' the Suburbs, which will arrive at your neighborhood CD outlet on September 11th."

more details available on the rollingstone.com site

Forgot:
Posted a pic today should be up next week .

Still sunny here in Darlington Co Durham so again I'm of to sit in the garden & drink last night Linda had me stinking out the whole street painting the fence with the devil's own fluid creosote.
Planning a goodbye BBQ on monday (bank holiday here) for brother he's off to live in the south of france and is opening a restaurant more details soon .
Duncan

hey Howard, you look great, love the plaid jacket, always have.

Son, I never played the game but I can tell you this:
Tonight, my friend, when the busy world is sleeping, it will nevertheless be treated to a match of wits the likes of which it hasn't set eyes on since the timeless Thrilla in Manilla or the classic Ali-Foreman bout in Zaire, no doubt about it at all. In the right corner, a true contender, towering over all known liberals at 4'10" inches and proudly wearing the Democrat Featherweight belt and moving up to the Heavyweights since his Limbaugh baiting glory, is well-known SNL recurring writter, cartoon character and comic, Al Franken. In the right corner, the one and only Jeff "Skunk" Baxter feared for his ability to stink up the joint when cornered. Known to overshadow even the best onstage if not with his musicianship then through his intimate knowledge complex military manoeuvers and stage antics of the highest kind. Will this heavyweight figure out the weaknesses in the enemy's defense strategy? Will he be able to disable a Franken in flight, heading for the Jersey beaches? Will Skunk retain Heavyweight GOP King Of The World title as fas as we know? will the Cold War be re-ignited through this potentially passionate, polarized, heated discussion of the highest importance, not only for the future of America but for the safety of the world?
Stay tuned to find out no later than tonight, midnight, right here on A-B-C and marvel at history in the making: The Skunk - Franken Nightcap Nailbiter will, no doubt, be the stuff legends are made of.
for now, this is Howard Cosell, signing off, once more.

dream rhythm section on the next one:

drums: Vinni Colaiuta, Chris Parker, Pete Erskine

bass: Abe Laboriel, Tom Barney, Walter Becker

wormy: good one...might as well diiiiiiiieeeeeeee...

welll people, my vulnerability of today is it's my fourteenth wedding anniversary - 14 years of quite the ride and it's only the beginning - part of me thinks, 14 is a long time, but the other part says, 14? pfff, that's nothing, i'm only 36, we have many years to go here - not sure what that means, but i'm sure someone will tell me. anyway, when my hubby asked me what i wanted for my anniversary i said a tea ceremony in Kyoto will be fine, thanks. my 8 year old is upset we are not throwing a party for ourselves, sheesh!

chappie, not be confused with chips, we have a lovely fetching table of scottish lads who will happily join in on a moorish dan-fest - welcome and make sure you type with an accent okay, i love that!

angel, check your e-mail today, i'm going to send you some info!

flipper, come back and sing your tune for us!

humming to tune to maxine today, very fitting indeed ;p

bite before i get back to work, oy .. nerves are clouding up on me for i tend to get myself in trouble concerning deadlines .. am challenging the meaning of the word d e a d l i n e i guess :-)

hey Blaise .. up in the skies to get to your place and have me some Boeuf d'Evan avec Justinade, and you for dessert, haha. In the meantime half the guests on the Concorde ( why shouldn't I travel light?) will have their bones shackled into this necklace I'm offering the Gods above down in Latin-America. Yep, I'll leave a trail of cannabalistic behaviour. But I won't eat eyes or ears, have to feed Gaucho something, won't I???
aarrgghh.

hey, welcome to all newbies. Joni Mitchell now singing a real early version of Woodstock and not that one thing is tied up to the other .. maybe i just want to say P E A C E and lots of gooood music to all of ya ..

i detect this sweet mode around here, some musk, some opium even, not that heavy or addictive, a sweet southern wind is blowing our way, picking up scents from nice warm places where people live outside their houses and smile at folks walking by their open doors .. some Cuervo Golden Moments in Banyan Time perhaps ..

and AJA .. when can we expect your picture in our Gallery??
now your presence is scarce, we need to click some Ajan smile to swirl us through the day, you know .. :-)

off again. Duncan, Steveedan, Flipper (care to explain why they call you Flipper?) have fun around here. what else can we say??

Banyan Tree Fair Weathered Bow,
G.

Good morning all....

LP: Spent all last evening setting it up. Boston it is. Wahoo!

Steveedan: Told the young one you might turn up in NOHO. He smiled. I did the Metro Red/NOHO thing last year, so I am sure it will be real hot in the valley that week. Good thing SFB is only scheduled for an hour. If it all works out, it will be a pleasure to watch you play. :-)
Oh, and I won't look for you in chat this weekend.

Blaise: Still fooling around with Wetside. What amazes me is that some of the lines sound like several possibilities. Especially that drink at the top/were gonna talk/the gunk on the top/the junk on the top. Fun to work on while commuting on the train. I just hope no one can hear what is going on in my headsets. :-)

Flipper: Welcome to you both. :-)

Duncan: Good first day on the GB for you. Loved the image of baby Dan sleeping while Kama was playing. That's the way to hook them early. :-)
(See, the inside stuff makes more sense to the person it is being sent to.)

It was real hot and humid here yesterday, actually had to turn on the air conditioning for the fist time this year. Hey Lisa G, I almost made it to June! :-)

Good day all....

With the sweet sounds of summer....

I play bass and wanna play some Dan songs with some muso's in Scoland who are Steely minded like me. Where are you?

Actually, you're right µ. There is no noticeable difference between the two Tillys since "Jennifer Tilly (BOUND) worked uncredited as a body double for her sister, Meg (Body Snatchers)..." and vice versa is a statement you might often come across on your AOL-Time Warner journey. In fact, come to think of it, that might have been Jennifer doubling last night since you mention her frontside... hmm suspicious.
We're bored, aren't we?
And Duncan seems like a sensitive fellow alright, a true contender. One to always stay one step ahead of potential blows in a preventive manner.

t-ster - I have nothing to say, I just like saying "t-ster". Thanks for appreciating the fruits of my neurosis, btw. Now where's my interactive Berklee concert, dammit! I've been strung out here all night, I've been waiting for the taste you said you'd briiiiiing to meee. sob

Gina - what's up with all that maneater talk all of a sudden? brrr Spooky to think you know my street address and everything... just teasing you, oh sensitive you.

skunk baxter on politically correct
is this an oxymoron?

Midnite - pulling for your's on the surgery

Aja - thanks for stopping in, I read the GB rarely myself and in long stretches these days as well, definitely a diff take

Duncan and Flipper - welcome aboard
we can always use a few new faces and opinions around here

So Flipper, pardon, if you don't mind my asking - in your crossdressing relm have you ever taken on the role of a fave dan heroine?

whoever posted the COuntdown to Ectasy post
it was informative and funny

what's with all the finger pointing by Fagen at the Berklee deal?
was he rehearsing for that Sopranos role?

death penalty dan style ? - assasins, cons and rapers...

wormy

king of the world for all that I know

http://www.steelyfanband.com/images/img012.jpg

Jimbo: When I saw PI was a uhhhhh bust, well except for Ms. Tilly's frortside, I hit the flipper until my eyes came upon A&E's biography. Unfortunately, the caffeine in the system were not sufficient to last through it, but I did see the beret (flat hat) that he wore. Then other jazz players/fans like the Heath brothers would show up to the gigs at the Teahouse on the Tracks wearing their flat hats. 'Ol Skunk should be sporting a flat hat tonight (probably because of receding hairline) Dizzie was one of the few who didn't ride the horse - led a clean life... ergo Teahouse? He was a great teacher of the bop trade.

Did you notice that when Diz was young he looked like Morris Day (of The Time)? Diz also told the story of how someone fell over his trunpet (stuck on a stand) resulting in the bell and shaft being bent upwards. It was easier for Diz then to hear what he was playing, so he stuck with it. The '46 band clip wasw stupendous!!!! A&E kicked Ken Burns' butt from what I saw. Hope they show it again....

Steveedan....sharpen your hachet, this could get messy....hows your aim? Can you shoot a bow and arrow? Come over to the house..We'll practice shooting apples off of Face's head....LOL.( she is sooooo gonna kill me!)

danoooo....you look great in that plaid speedo, family Tartan?
Yes, Gary is a bang up jockey. Right up there with the Great"Shu". Have you ever noticed the wives of the jockeys? Tall and Beautiful...come to think of it, at 5'5 I'd be tall around a jockey.

Blaise..You so Silly!!!!

Steevedan- " I don't want the title of "King of Sensitivity"
way to late for that buddie. you won that title hands down.

Good morning everyone --

I awoke at 3 AM for some reason, came to my computer and re-read all of the current GB content looking for one thing or another. It is now a quarter to 5 in the morning.

eLLe - I wanted to find out how your son is doing. After re-reading that part of the GB I am thinking of you and your family. Please let me (us) know how he is doing if you feel like it. I, for one, would really like to hear about his progress.

Cyn - after a couple of days of personal reflection, I just want to tell you that I never harbored any animosity toward you. I was just reacting (see, I can cop to the fact that my writings were also not a response as well) to the raw anger that I thought I saw happening here in the GB. I don't want the title of "King of Sensitivity" nor do I want anyone to die in order for me to become so. If you are willing, I would like to bury the hatchet that we wielded back and forth to each other, preferably in the head of one of the nasty anon posters. HA HA!

To Chere - I hope that your grief is beginning to mellow. It never completely goes away though. I think I heard the line on the movie "Tuesdays with Morrie", something like: "Your relationship doesn't end just because the person passes away", so embrace your memories of your father and hold them close to you. Speak to you soon.

Paige - I would like to check in with you and find out how things are going for you. Let me know whenever you feel like it.

Clas - Did you say that you had a book that you left behind in Nawlins which had ALL the SD songs in it? Did that include the Two Against Nature tunes as well? Let me know if you would please.

To all the others in the GB and in chat who have made me feel welcome here I just wanted to let you all know that in my short time of being here I really appreciate the comeraderie and warmth that I have felt here. In a very short time I seem to have grown rather attached to this place.

To Angel and the musician types here - It's not official yet, but I have been asked by both my old band, the Steely Fan Band, and the Dr. Wu band to play with them. If this is going to happen, you can all be sure that I will let you know. It would be great to meet the Los Angeles area GB-ers who might be able to come out to see the bands play. Whether I play with Dr. Wu or not I will definitely be in the audience at their Whiskey A-Go-Go gig in West Hollywood on July 6. If I play with the SFB, it would be on Sat. June 16 and/or Sun June 17 in the San Fernando Valley.

Have a great day everyone. Take care.

Steveedan

Flipper you can come swimming as long as you dont show off and get the right changing room??

Duncan , Where are you from mate?? Need more Brits on the board so we can get a Dan fest in the UK.

Cyn, Gary Steven over for our Royal Meeting ,Top Man that Mr Stevens.

TWM , Check your e-mail big man??

eLLe , Spoke to Mr Rotten who said he is no longer an Anarchist and is now a jolly decent fellow, so would you just leave him alone.

WIP , Still not had time to download that mp3 , but will get back to you buddy.

With my new job - South Bronx music directorship, and my audition for a community orchestra, plus 4 other job possibilities. Just had time to scroll thru this morn REAL QUICK.

LB - welcome back, and we are sorry to have mised you guys on Sat. DO come hear Lisa play sometime, it would be great to see y'all there.

Welcome newbies - HAVE A GOOD TIME.

Trying to keep up...

The death penalty sucks. That's it.

Darling Garland

Constant Stranger. You're a brute. You're an angel. You can crawl. You can fly too. It's down to you.

Any news on TNO?

SEMB

I have to apologize for the reckless use of a fellow canadian's name but I had to find one other canuck, anyone... looking back, I realize I should have used Canadian Razor Boy or Canadian Jive Miguel or something. Hope no harm was done in the process and the present public retraction makes up for the blatant violation of Canadian copyright law I just committed (it IS early).
Regards
B

Yes. Skunk vs Al Franken bout confirmed:
http://abc.go.com/primetime/politicallyincorrect/pi_guests.html
Never a dull moment...

re: Blacksgirl - I was just about to thoroughly investigate the sudden disappearance of our local chat icon and there she is, better than ever. Saves me the time and gaz money.
Now where's KD? In Search of...

Aja - So I have to substitute for BME now? Never a dull moment... If that means logging on in chat and leaving my computer on while I watch X-Files reruns, I don't mind at all. Stick around, lovely. It should be obvious we need an evening clean-up hitter since KD bailed out on eLLe.
Poor eLLe, left there to ponder on her own writing surrounded by cheap smut of all kinds (no, not you Cyn, silly). Don't let all the pimpin' get to ya, girl. ppppffffffffffffffffffft. Sorry had a tough stain on my monitor... and btw, the only one who could get the Manning joke and the Royal Canadian Air Farce ref is well... me and randy reichart. I miss Manning just to hear the guy say that.

#Jimmyyyyy! Did you get hit with those huge storms last night? As the esteemed Blacksgirl would say..wowowowowow! Checked out the back..alls still standing. Haven't looked out front yet...where the cars are parked.

Mr. Baxter on PI tonight? Along with the other line ups...looks to be very interesting! Might have to take a nap, so I can stay awake til midnight. Coffee and popcorn.

Aja..Come over with #Jimmyyyy and the lovely Amy to Chincoteague in Oct. The Face and I will be attending (she thinks we're gonna ride in the parade) She just doesn't know...she is the parade....LOL! Bring your cowboy boots, we'll eat oysters, drink beer and tear up the town (all on horseback)! We'll make Nawlins look like a tea party...LOL. Jimmyyyy, can you and Amy ride?

Tell Auntie Em..I'll be home today and to check out my "new" shoes!

Howard - great stuff! And yes, F#. I took a glance at it yesterday, it's pretty challenging.

I've learned the Rhodes-intro from the Steely-songbook (the one who covers every song). That songbook I leaved behind in New Orleans, after the Dan-fest, tried to get a new one but that seems to be impossible.

And is that for true, are you able to switch key just like that? Amazing.

C

Did anyone see A&E's biography last night on Dizzy Gillespie?

I saw it and thought it was very good. Not great, but good.

I was surprised though that Annie Ross, who was interviewed,
was also a singer. Until then, I only knew her from Superman III
in which she played a villian. Of course, that was probably the only good thing about the film.

I did see a clip though of one of the trumpet players playing a dizzy classic. He almost looked like Donald Fagen clean-shaven.

Anyhow, whoever saw the Dizzy episode,let me know know
what you think.

That's Jennifer. Is there a difference?

The lineup:

Tommy Smothers
Comedian
Jennifer Tilly
Actress
Kerri Houston
Lobbyist Joey McIntyre
Recording Artist

Hey Aja: whaaaaazzzzuuuuuuup!? O Say Can U C UCSD??

Best to check in tonight just in case, but the PI site on abc.com indicates that Skunk's gonna permeate the studios of Politically Incorrect TOMORROW, May 23:

"5/23
Comedian Al Franken; Actress Holland Taylor; Republican Strategist/Activist Marjorie Strayer; Recording Artist Jeff "Skunk" Baxter"

...instead of tonight as suggested on the Digest today.

Tonight's guest include Meg Tilly, according to the site...

It's funny how different this GB looks from the night shift. I hadn't realized how personally involving it was when you kept up with the posts and topics (by the minute if you had a skull-splitting job-was I really so bored at one time that I posted under amino acids??) and to switch to reading once every few weeks or so gives it a completely new feel. On the one hand I can't participate in the give and take, but on the other the negative anons fade completely into the white background noise. All in all it's still as lively as ever and a fun place to visit and have a drink.

Aus-Leg UP! Blacksgirl is back? That sure brings back memories. No BME? SOMEBODY step up to the plate, the slave needs a new master! Blaisie?

Lady B-sorry to hear about your personal turmoil, that's rough. Hang in there.

Last Saturday I volunteered at the Ironman California race. All I can say is DAMN! 2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bike, then a 26.2 mile run, completed by 30 professional athletes and 1500 regular joes. I stayed at the finish for 3 hours just cheering the finishers on. It was AWESOME-people would come through the aid station (located halfway through the run) looking glazed and half dead, but when they saw the finish and heard the crowd screaming from the bleachers they ran with all they had, and most finished so pumped and high on endorphins it was electric (cue "Rocky" theme ;o). My sweetie finished in under 11 hours-his personal best! I never wanted to do an Ironman, but now I'm thinking maybe......

Best SD album? Aja! Haven't had much time for music lately so I popped that one in today. Damn it sounds good! The entire album never gets old, no matter how many times I spin it, and every time I do I hear something new. The baseline in Peg really rocks. I never noticed it under the catchy chorus and horns before, but today it leaped out at me and I've been dancing to it all day.

stevie dan-don't know if you remember our Marvin Gaye discussion, but a local group recorded a reggae version of "Sexual Healing". It's great-you really need to hear this one.

Jim#-got your e-mail and will respond soon. REALLY! I'm dead-on about doing this again. I'm a New Orleansophile and will fly out there at the drop of a hat ;o)

Gina swirl for old time's sake,

Aja

Jim# jimmmmmy!....I'm a Talbot, thats my maiden name. But just one T tho. 2 T's are the Irish Talbots (lovely people)

eLLe..sweetie darling (Ab Fab....just call me Edina) I think Patsy needs some help...fix some of that tea, please. (Make it a bit stronger than usual)

Don't need any gatorade....just had a tornado warning, hail, high winds and all that weather stuff. Am feeling blessed that not one of these old trees fell.

OOPS..spoke too soon, here comes the next cell. Duck and cover!!!

LOL, of course that was me

LOL, not me

I've been wondering all day today why I am always taken wrong, am I really THAT bad at articulation???? people in real life have always said i have a very special way with words so i give up : (

I

JUST
Love

That

word

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOrm
((((( in Stereo )))))

there's absolutely no way I can recover from that last post..
total insanity
ok ok ok, maybe I can say, "whew, it must be the heat"
LMAO
you looka like a man

No VISA at all.... Toh-Ree

www.toricam.com

ok Jimbo, if you say so, but I don't remember it. Yeah Millenium is the "other" sci-fi I was talking about filmed in Vancouver, but couldn't remember the name of it ; )I get confused with Frank Black and Frank Black of the Pixies, doh!

Steveedan..anti-semantic LOL!!!my week is going peachy, I hope you're having a wonderful Merry Merry Month of May. : )

Blaise- pfffft, watch it, you might can some on-yah ; )

YO Johnny Rotten I GO TO YOUR CHAT ( seriously) TO SLING SOME SHIT AT YAH CAUSE I KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'D ENJOY THAT AND NO ONE IS EVER THERE MAN, WASSUP WITH THAT< GEEZER??? LOL

Cyn have another drink of Gatorade. Steveedan is calling you OUT!

Btw, are you really that sweet, or are you just happy to see eLLe?

Edd....very nice job with the goldfinches pics....I didn't realize they went through the spring molt....we've just recently put up a thistle feeder but haven't seen any finches yet....it's been raining almost non-stop here for well over a week with at least several days to go so the bird traffic seems to have died down....I have another new feeder to put up as soon as it dries out.

off to the hospital tomorrow for the little ladies gall bladder-ectomy or whatever you want to call it....we should be back home sometime Thursday and I'm off through Memorial Day....hope to catch up some while I'm off.

Flip.....aka FlipFlop....at least you're keeping us guessing.

later b&g's....MC

Floridavid: Wowowowowowowowowow! OMGGGGGGG! Got the parcel just today via United States Postal Service! And what goodies did it EVER contain....I can hardly contain myself as I listen. Huge kudos. I am surely indebted. Thank you sir.

Yessss. Blacksgirl is BACK (of omgggg & wowowowow fame). And better than ever before. Stuck around waiting for MASTER but he never showed. (Aja baby...you readin' this??)

Flip this: Fascinating (as far as first posts here go). Enjoyed a good chuckle. Have you chequed MAC's new lipstick colour numbre four?

Oh yeah..St. Al: This past weekend: Two outta three ain't bad.

live solo now on Bodhisattvahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Smoking our shelter in the sky to subatomic matter. God these guys rock.

Aus

It flatters to no end to be quoted in the same aura of platitudes as my Jim enamored brethren, but heed ye:

I am not, not have I ever been Jimbo (though he has posts of an intelligent nature, and therefore honors the Jim prefix, albeit the "bo" suffix does tend to make one wonder).

I have not, nor have I ever been a McCaan, a Talbot, a McKay. Such associations merely detract from the artistry of the original poster. And after all, how many Jims have the boys run through in the semingly endless years of studio musician reviews?

Honors classes in the postings of Jimism's will be announced shortly...

Nah, it was me. I have the cute tush.

Petie wrote that about me...

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.radio-france.fr/chaines/france-musiques/biographies/fiche.php%3Fnumero%3D155&prev=/search%3Fq%3DCathy%2BBerberian%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000005WAY/o/qid=990570702/sr=8-1/ref=aps_sr_cm_1_1/107-7798973-1702935

Even Cathy Berberian knows...

Sorry folks,I was also going to ask about the tour schedule on Whole Notes for SD.It mentions many dates none of which Ticketmaster seem to know about.I'm particularly interested in the June 27 at Molson Amphitheater in TO.A great venue to see them if true(rank right up there with Greatwoods in Mansfield Mass.)

I always thought Eminem was a god. That's what they said anyway on tv and everywhere. Boy, you guys are smart. I love you. I learn all kinds of things on this board. It never ends. It's just this endless torrent of knowledge heading our way like we're up Shits Creek without a paddle here. I feel so much love running through me. Not used to that, sorry... *sigh*

I didn't have time to read all of what's posted but may 9 was discouraging.
What I would like to know(and you can acknowledge or not)is who is Cathy Berberian(probably and old question,sorry)?

What happens if he gets the Cheer or whatever? Nothing, eh? Figures.

I almost forgot. I wanted to close by asking, begging and cajoling you to support the Pittsburgh Penguins, if you're a hockey fan, because if they lose tonight, NO STANLEY CUP:(

If you prefer New Joisey:), I won't try to hold it against you.
I said I'LL TRY. heh, heh, heh.

This one's for real. I already bought the dream.

eLLe-The first kissy-kissy episode between Scully and Mulder took place shortly after the events of the movie. Plus, it also
brought closure for the character Frank Black from Millenium.

Millenium was a show created by Chris Carter about a profiler
(Black) who has to infiltrate and stop a gang related to the
Millenium project from destroying the world at midnight at the beginning of 2000. The show lasted three seasons.

At the end of the episode, the two wished each other happy new
years day and THEY KISSED:)

Wow. Duchovney was a fool to quit the series. But then again his wife ain't too bad either.

By the way, next week BEHIND THE MUSIC profiles Blues Traveler
and John Popper will explain the weight loss. I saw a brief clip
of him. He looks great. But that's not the warning I wanted to mention last night.

Also, next week, VH1 will have it's CHEERS AND JEERS special for
the first half of this year. Some will say it's Eminem at the Grammys who will get the Cheers. Good God. Will this never end. Critics and so-called comics will be nit picking the moments. Be on the lookout for any snotty remarks about Don and Walt.

WORD TO THE EMINEM ASSKISSERS:

EMINEM IS NOT A GOD, I REPEAT EMINEM IS NOT A GOD. HE ISN'T THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN SINCE THE BEATLES. HE IS NOT A HERO.
HE IS A CONFUSED MAN WHO CAN'T KEEP HIS WIFE, NOT A RESPONSIBLE FATHER, HATES HIS MOM AND MAKES EVEN THE MOST INTELLIGENT ROCK STARS SUCK UP TO HIM. DO NOT BUY HIS PHILOSOPHY OF FACT AND FICTION THEY'RE BOTH HIS REALITY.

WORD TO THE ANTI-EMINEM FOLKS:

Go to VH1.COM. There is a poll conducted right now to see
if Eminem gets the Cheer or Jeer. Right now the majority is
leaning on Cheers. Get on the poll and change it.

Also: The Superbowl performances
Madonna thinking about a Britney duet

All deserve Jeers.

Don't make me bite and kiss you.

having a dig or may the g be a ck? I dig Calvin Klein anyway, so. Feel free to e me, I will reply but not now, I'm deep into the night already and saying goodbye to you now. Cheers, Ritchie Lamont/Flipper

i clearly did NOT hear my name...

did i hear my name?

...boys always work it out!"

neither

Me thinks flipper is having a dig

keep digging you just get further down!!

''Me'' thinks flipper is having a dig.
come forward
(white wine speaking)

I'm no baby...

"She's so swishy in her satin and tat
In her frock coat and bipperty-bopperty hat
Oh God, I could do better than that."

You were still overweight when I wrote that one, Richard.

Hey, I was here first!

COUNTING ARRANGER JIMMIE HASKELL, a total of 21 musicians are
credited for their contributions to Steely Dan's second album. There would
never be as few again. So why are there only five musicians pictured on the
back of Countdown To Ecstasy? Maybe because former Dan lead singer
David Palmer, not pictured, was relegated to the "additional background
vocals" department with six other non-Dannites.

"That was the first gold tooth to go," recalled Dan drummer Jim Hodder in
1985. "I remember he'd had a bridge put in and he was fired right before
or during the first couple of sessions of Countdown To Ecstasy. He came
back from the dentist one day with a bridge on, and Donald sang the
fucking lyric, 'Do you throw out your gold teeth?', and the whole band got
paranoid. 'Everybody but Donald and Walter. I remember when the axe
came down on him - and yeah, it did strike terror into Baxter and I and
Denny."

Despite the growing number of studio players to be heard, Countdown
ironically sounds much more like a band effort than did its predecessor,
credit that to the many nights Steely Dan had spent on the road promoting
their first album to crowds of 50 or -occasionally - more. Boasting the best
rock song ever to be named Bodhisattva, Countdown also includes Show Biz
Kids and the self-mythologising My Old School, which tickled the fancy of
more than one attendee of New York's Bard College.

Still, that the band had lost a member did not go unnoticed by ABC
Records president Jay Lasker, who insisted that the album's cover (painted
by Fagen's then girlfriend Dorothy White, credited as 'Dotty of Hollywood')
be retouched. Why? Because, he said, the image of three nude men
lounging in office chairs might give people the impression that Steely Dan
had broken up. Thus the two additional globs of primordial goo, who stand
watching in the background, patiently awaiting seats of their own.

Thank you, can you believe I'm sooo excited now??????
My address says all I guess! Are you serious about me sending in my picture already? You just want to know if I'm a drag queen, right? But it's optional, the picture. Sure. Thanks for being so nice to me. This is a great place to be! Flipper

Given what our "Flipper" has revealed on his/her very first post (winning countless GB-Awards for immediate personal disclosure for that), isn't it a scary thought "Flipper" could be an alter-ego of someone here?.....

as if we don't have enough of those already.....

Fucking shite computer!!
Hurry up Bill

Bill Gates has turned into Third World Man?
I'm waiting on my cheque!!

Hi Duncan, are you a Geordie or a Mackem?

Peace to all
Hello to newbies all over the world

Al

Bill Gates has turned into Third World Man?
I'm waiting on my cheque!!

Hi Duncan, are you a Geordie or a Mackem?

Peace to all
Hello to newbies all over the world

Al

Maybe

Welcome Flip

The least you can do Flipper, is post a photo of "both" of you on the GB photo page.
You sound like a hoot. Where are you posting from/live by the way.

Who makes the GB interesting?

Okay, who's gonna have a swing at me then?
I'm 34, during office hours male but in my own time I prefer to be a woman. I've been into the music of Steely Dan ever since my 2 brothers introduced me to their albums and it's not just Steely Dan they introduced me to. I've been reading this and other boards for some time now and couldn't really make up my mind. But this seems to be a good time for me to jump in the water. So here I am. A song I carry with me, wherever I go is Aja. My older brother Seth used to date a Chinese girl and he called her Aja. I loved the way her hair seemed to glow in the dark when my brother and Kit (she had two names, Kit Fong, but she preferred Kit) came home and kind of said goodbye, kissing and all, you know. Oh yes, we all witnessed it, there's 2 kid sisters a couple of years younger. I think Kit woke up my other side back then, when she was dating my brother. I always try to identify myself with the characters in the lyrics. I like Negative Girl a lot. I look at women these days and see a lot of them. Real negative girls. It's not like they're all bitches or something. No way. I watch them dance, I go to clubs a lot. I call myself a Negative Girl sometimes. 'Cause I can say "negative" if someone comes at me and asks if I'm a girl. An attempt to be funny .. did I succeed? Anyway, 1977 was a great year and I would love to meet here with you wonderful people. So I hope it will be fun, I am having fun right now! My friends call me Flipper, my real name is Ricardo Sergio, Ritchie for short. They say I look a little like Harry Connick jr but I don't think he does the thing I do after hours! I'm not even sure myself about that. Oh God, can you believe I am nervous right now, how will you react to me. Never imagined this could be such a real experience. Sincerely, Flipper

Best album of all time? For him, it'd be Aja:

http://www.mojo4music.com/buyersguides/DisplayAllback.cfm?ObjectUUID=83363AD6-E162-11D4-9B34000629DEBA30

David Crosby agrees w/o any hesitation at all:

http://www.mojo4music.com/buyersguides/DisplayAllback.cfm?ObjectUUID=83363ADF-E162-11D4-9B34000629DEBA30

First things first: LP, you look fabulous! Did you change your hair? Never mind, it looks great! Btw, that dress really makes your eyes shine. Have you been getting sun? You look like you've been working out. Do you like flowers? Thanks for saving the best of Boston from those evil developers. You are an incredible woman. You make the traffic interesting...

:-)

Btw, did you get my e?

Negz, you too?

Skully, and x-friends - until last week, that was going to be the last x-files. When they filmed it, the decision hadn't been made whether or not to return for another season, thus the "pandering" kiss at the end to have at least *some* closure to the show. Last year was the same thing; they filmed 2 endings and edited the capper about Scully's pregnancy unto the end after they settled with David D. the week before airing. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole bit with the new Assistant Director was the added bit this year to let everyone know there would be another season. Btw, no Duchovny next year except for cameos; GA is under full contract next year, so apparently Mulder is going to be a househusband.

Blaiser - Now if we really needed something investigated we'd send you. Nice work 'bout the Mose Allison line... and in general.

I had more to post, but my short term memory seems to be impaired...

later

t

Well Hello Cyn ---

My comments, if you recall the entire content of that post you are reacting (as opposed to responding) to, said that I held you and Blaise in higher esteem than the nasty anon posters. I did not think that you were lashing out at me. I just find that negativity seems to begat more negativity and your reserving of your right to react (again, because it surely isn't a response) to stupid postings just provides more fuel to the stupidity fire. Go ahead if you must. "Scroll on by" is my feeling on that. I won't try to change you. I have no interest in it, nor do I or anyone else who posts here have the power to do so.

I did find it amusing that after you stated that you weren't lashing out at me, you then proceeded to lash out at me. I have not the time or interest to dignify this any farther.

One other item that I would like to bring up to all who choose to read this is that this site was provided by the generosity of St. Al. It belongs to no one (other than our benevolent site provider). Therefore, whether you are a long time frequenter here, or new, sophisticated, educated, musical, cynical, literary or otherwize, you, just like everyone else has a right to be here. Unfortunately, this extends to nasty anonymous posters and overly sensitive lash-outers.

I like you Cyn, I have told you this before, just lighten up a little. I come here looking for interesting Steely Dan commentary, not unsavory entanglements. So know that I am not lashing out at you. Whether you like it or not. HA HA.

"I see you are singing a song of the past ..."

Steveedan

Yeah Steveedan, what's your fucking problem?

CYN IS RIGHT! ALWAYS! BRILLIANT!

Whoaaa there, Steveedan....Where exactly did I lash out at you personally? I have never singled you out...only those that post anonomously. By the way, didn't you say in chat once Just How much you liked that reference (the first village idiot comment, way back in early May)? Me thinks you did... but if you want to conveniently forget that..Well, so be it. Furthermore, I don't "Lash out" at everybody...just when some one decides to sucker punch me for no reason. With that I reserve the right to answer back....whether it offends you or not. And seriously, if you decide to ignore me, thats your problem not mine. Read back in time and see who stood by YOU while you were being dissed about the "Steveedan" handle. BTW..who died and made you the King of Sensitivity? What I wrote to Duncan about the steveiedan/Steveedan was done in humour, even the Village Idiot could figure that out.
Hey Eloise...that is "BRAID" Skipperdees ears.

anon is almost right. On the iMac and newer keyboards, ALT and OPTION are the same key. Control is used for when accessing PC and Web stuff. It's sort of a command key to communicate with other systems. The APPLE key is the command key within the iMac. For example, APPLE and P will print a document or page on screen. All PCs are not the same. What works on a Compaq might not work on a Dell. I also depends on the Font you've chosen for your Web brwoser. Some fonts don't support symbols. Go to Preferences.

NOW this is getting boring. For fun, Type TWO AGAINST NATURE in MS Word or other word processing system. Change the font to Symbol. Pretty Cool. Looks vaguely familiar...hmmmm...

Hey Duncan --

Pretty funny, Dude !! Not too far from the truth though. As for me, I was a heavy partier in high school, which is when Steely Dan records "Countdown To Ecstasy" through "Aja" came out (in my personal history). I'm sure that drugs helped out in this department, but, I doubt that invoking an altered state is mandatory to experiencing the "changes". It's not Hendrix. Like I said earlier, repeated listenings will allow this to happen for you "naturally". I'm pretty sure you get what I am talking about, after all, I don't want to be accused of being anti-semantic.

Enjoy your white wine (cheap or otherwise...)

"...If I stay alive, you can share my poison wine." - To all the "Kings of the World"...

Steveedan

thanks all for the welcome back

I'm really quite the lurker here
so three posts in two days is a bit too much.

I guess the reason I like the x-files and steely dan so much is the extensive quality that goes into each episode or composition.

Should Mulder and Skully have kissed? I was of the opinion that they never should have and thought it tasteful that Chris Carter built the tension (sexually) and also heightened the mutual respect between the characters for so long. Now it almost seems anticlimatic and pandering to bring them together, oh well.

Similiar tensions existed with "will Don and Walt ever get back together again?" (they sure teased us with the solo projects without giving us the full goods). And now the love child 2aN has 4 grammies to it's name. So yes the romance is back, hot and heavy

developing a relationship with someone you work with? are you kidding?

skully