User: steviedan | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: after this, i'm REALLY gone for a few days...
!!!!!PRESENT!!!!!
but only momentarily...
jimbo, you know i believe they all do. it's really a lovely concise little solo, although it dovetails in the middle so it's not one take. i had to compromise one note that occurred on the same beat as another at the other end of the neck. anyway, fleetwood mac seems to remain omnipresent due in large part to "the dance", which i just happened to listen to earlier this week. overall, a nice live representation. one of my favorite parts: lindsey starts some dr phil-style self confessional about "inner demons" and mick interrupts him with this perfect little catskills comedy drum lick that roughly translates into "don't spoil our party, you whiner YOU"...
st al, that's weird. i've heard that moe does a live version of "bodhi" but i've never seen or heard it...
one additional rollee: IO/innocent one...
did she and kd ever hook up ? they could have KIDS by now !
... on to the dunes...
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: FloriDavid: A Georgia peach martini, a bone and a juke box with the Dan in it. Perfection and grace personified. Dammit I envy you.
Aus
User: Floridavid | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Roll call? Floridavid reporting in and enjoying my new Friday Night Hobby. After the Gig I slip over to a Funky little Beach Bar called the "Surf Club". No live music but, A great CD juke box with Plenty of Steely Dan and the Best Peach Martinis made with Fresh Georgia peaches. A couple of those babys and bone and yours truly has finished off a good night at the Beach. Cheers
User: moray eel | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Here.
And Frozen Rainmaker used to post here during the "Golden Age". He still pops up once in a blue moon.
m.e.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Present and accounted for, thanks for asking, annon. :-)
Wormy! OMG, you lost your virginity!!!!! Worth it, right?
What about that open to the title cut. My little one goes, "hey mom, that sounds like the end of something". How perceptive can you get.... ;-)
Mu: Yes, the horns at the top, return in the bridge. I noticed it, too. So good to hear it on a decent set of speakers. Ahhhh.... It's been running through my head all afternoon, even though I have been listening to Kamikiriad all day in the car. Definite similarities there, btw.
Ed: Paso Robles, I'm in. See ya there.
Might do the Carlsbad thing again this year. Damned on the 6/21, I believe. (though their webpage says Friday the 20th, I believe it is the 21st). We had a great time there last year, and it's FREE! Nice warm up to the tour.
Some more from Downbeat Magazine (glad I bought it, because I have hardly scratched the surface of the article, with my snipets.). :-)
Comments on the song Pixeleen:
One of the album's more deliciously devious treats is "Pixeleen", a song about virtual sex, among other things, which has an infectious three-sylable hook reminiscent of standards like "Tangerine" and Cole Porter's "I Love You". This track also has the album's loosest ending, with the band seeming to dissolve rather than end in any declarative way. "Bill Charlap played piano on that track," Becker says, "and as I recall, he played something surprising."
"It freaked everyone out so much, they stopped playing," Fagen says. Becker finishes the story: "[Bill] sort of dictated an ending, and everyone just sat with it. For most of our charts, there's no charted ending. They're intended to fade out in some way. Every once in awhile, we get something that falls apart in a nice way. That was one of them."
They called the jazz pianist in for late breaking additions to the recording project when regular pianist Ted Baker couldn't make it. Fagen says that Charlap was "overqualified. We went to see him play once, and he said, 'If you guys ever need a piano player, I'd love to play with you.' So there we were, months later."
I (The interviewer, I assume) played Charlap the ending in question over the phone. At the tail end of the coda, he plays a lavish upward keyboard flourish that seems to disarm the rhythm section. After hearing it, Charlap says, "the Kramer etudes," and plays the exercise on his piano. "I remember that now. I'm glad I had that in my fingers at the time."
User: oleander | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Mostly here... slow Saturday, then?
... and don't forget Edd.
User: Luckless Pedestrian | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: present!
omg blacksgirl, i had forgotten about that gig
sociable hermit?
green earring?
anyone heard from chere?
hiked a mountain with my 4 year old, noticed all the slugs, snakes and moss along the way - it's good for her to be three feet tall, you notice more stuff that way
nite
User: Moll | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Yeah, I'm still about......thanks for mentioning me. ;) I'm eagerly awaiting the release date. I'm going to Ohio concert, and most likely the Chicago one too. Chili Peppers are supposed to be touring this Summer as well... I can't wait to see them again.
Hurt
I hurt myself today
to see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
the only thing that's real
the needle tears a hole
the old familiar sting
try to kill it all away
but I remember everything
what have I become?
my sweetest friend
everyone I know
goes away in the end
you could have it all
my empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
I wear my crown of shit
on my liar's chair
full of broken thoughts
I cannot repair
beneath the stain of time
the feeling disappears
you are someone else
I am still right here
what have I become?
my sweetest friend
everyone I know
goes away in the end
you could have it all
my empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
if I could start again
a million miles away
I would keep myself
I would find a way
Nine Inch Nails ( I like Johnny's rendition best)
User: wt | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: St Al - jam bands have it over those who hold it too tight to the cloth
love hearing playful covers
where's your fav download sites, I see minimal dan in the areas I scan
improv bands, todays lot could learn a little from the past
amazing were some bands like floyd, zep, G Dead, crim that went to serious improv in their earlier years - then held tightly later (oh well)
Zep especially - those old rockabilly WLL medleys were out there
then there are bands like 70's Genesis where the keyboard player splendid Tony Banks never strays a note, impressive but liven it up a little
DR Wu - you know in these southern states we could be arrested for BB,TLM,EMG rotations ;-) met cha at the border
Liz Phair's flaming lips - don't get me started, ouch!
User: oh maaaaaaaaan... | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: I *love* Liz Phair's flaming lips!
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: The site I posted a few days ago which catalogs song covers intrigued me. After I saw that String Cheese Incident covered Bodhisattva I had to find a copy. From what I can see they've only played it once -- Stubbs Barbecue in Austin 5/16/1998. I found the complete show available for download so I grabbed it and uploaded the song to the music page in case anyone is interested.
Some will probably find it blasphemous. 4 1/2 minutes of Bodhisattva into a 5 minute jam. I dig it. I only wish Steely Dan would stretch out like this once in a while. Check it out!
http://www.banyantrees.net/music/ <-- scroll to the bottom of the page
Oh... HERE!
StAl
User: DACW/¦/DrMu | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Here. I'm such a slut...wallowing in a pool of margaRITAs...just cycled through EMG, BB, TLM and back to EMG...
Aussie, Tell YGK to watch that I10-12 fork or he's Texas bound!...Yeeeehaaahhh!!
User: wt | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: aussie
sorry if you get this try here
wt
User: wormy | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: aussie
Malcolm is here in new orleans right now???
damn, it's 8pm and I just got the news
email me his cell phone # at the following addy (home)
he probably tried to catch me on my work or now defunct cell phone,
damn
angel - blew my dan celebicy on BB, EMG, and TLM on the confessions page
so I am confessing here,
I SWEAR, I AM A GOOD LITTLE SCHOOL BOY ;-)
wt
User: ed beatty | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Hey,
I'm always somewhere out here or there.
Who's going to Paso Robles?
Can I get a show of hands?
Ed
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Here but busy (Liz Phair/Flaming Lips tonight, maaaaaaaaaaan)
User: button of the week: | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Have you hugged your gay vegetarian leftist druggie protester today?
User: family tree | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Hank Silvers
lisa
Geena
Mock Turtle
Razor Boy
Charmer
Peg
Bob Tedde
anymajordude
Lester the Nightfly
User: Crawler | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Just streamed EMG for the first time. WOW.
I'd say more but I have to pick my jaw up off the floor...
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: space after webdrone = anons
User: keep 'em comin... | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Bad Sneakers
Joe Murtha
ICPaul
ti bon ange
BlacksGirl(!)
webdrone
.
aa
weber/Truth/Keyshawn
chips
rogue anon
DACW
Ward
June
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Nice list Roll Call. Registering my: Present!
Two quick queries. First, what ever happened to Elle? Second, albeit a very brief tenure on Beemer's GB, shouldn't Blacksgirl be somewhere on that roll call list?
Aus
ps. Wormy: I just got a call this aftrenoon from Malcolm down in New Orleans....are you doing your downhome thing again? Lord knows I've longed to see that look of derision again as I mercilessly wolf down craw dads and powdered bread. You should give some serious thought to making it for the Jones Beach gig this coming August. Let me know if we can accomodate you.
User: Bad sneakers | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Thanks
User: Roll call! | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Chere
Danslut(tm)
rumblestrip
Cara Mia
Midnight Cruiser
Blaise
snakehips
steviedan
angel
Aja
Gina
luckless pedestrian
cyn
Jim #
Steveedan
wormy
aussie
ygk
Lady Bayside
St. Al
floridavid
oleander
Q
JWMalibu
joker
kinky
dano
W1P
Howard
db
Beerberian
Duncan
Jimbo
Lisa G
Daddy G
Roy Scam
Altamira
Miz Ducky
Hutch
KD
Clas
fezo
negative girl
thirdworldman
z
Dr. Warren Kruger
Edd Beatty
Sociable Hermit
Ruby Baby
Schwinn
El Supremo
Elle
Hank Silvers
Not My Nancy
Mr. Chow
Hoops
qwerty
Corpsy V
Lars
Bill
Molly
Jenny
jjeff
Dr. Mu
timg
Good King Richard
moray eel
JustKatyDanFan
The Stranger
suedave
Steven in CT
tones
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Good news! The DVD-A of Kamakiriad will have those two music videos out:
Tommorrow's Girls and Snowbound. If you never seen them before, they are terrific videos, especially Snowbound. Also, one of the most weirdest to date.
Stevie- Nice to know that kids look beyond their "patriotism" to still
enjoy good music. Do they know that "Landslide" was a Fleetwood Mac tune
before the Chicks made that sweet remake?
Even Lou Dobb's Moneyline reports a military officer surprised that there are no WMD's yet. Duh! Lou, stick to reporting financial news. Why do you think the program is called Lou Dobbs Moneyline? Give me Louis Rukeyser.
10 more days till EMG!
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Bill- Enough about Iraq already.
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Bill- Enough about Iraq already.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Walt Weiskopf is DA MAN!!!
Anybody notice yet how he integrates the BRIDGGE of EMG into that Intro? I wonder who's idea was that? Donald, Walter, Weiskopf? Pure genius!
Telling the story from the perspective and feelings of a fallen exec really works, the little touches of a hedonistic, almost rock star-like life...and from being close to the Enron action - that's exactly what they thought...they were plotting and activtely stealing from the 401K pool as they slid on down the (corporate) ladder ...there's a few suites in Huntsville with their names on them
Does anyone get lucky twice? wouldn't it be nice?
User: Luckless Pedestrian at home, with organic coffee | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: i have not heard from chere in a long time either but will try to email her
aus? david? anyone else know?
User: stevie-vu | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: as i was typing, i was listening to a cd of the 10th annual new orleans jazz and heritage festival... and as i finished the post a solo piano piece was beginning and i'm thinking, "that's LOVELY"... "who IS this ?"...
by GAWD, it was charles mingus on the piano !
textbook synchronicity !
User: stevieshots&shouts | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: howard: "...i haven't heard much mingus" howard, you should seek to change that, bro'...
beerberian: thanx SO much for the gabriel line-up run-down...
downbeat repreSENTin'... hollah...
tones: as i trust, the sole culturally elevated one to render an opinion on classical music...
bluz: those are some slammin' jointz on those playlists you post...
dixie chicks... over the past week i have been teaching the mandolin solo from "landslide" as a sort of "intro to mandolin 101" to my interested guitar and violin (it's tuned the same) students. no one's "patriotism" has caused them to boycott the experience...
razorboy: i KNOW ! the air and water just KEEP getting cleaner and cleaner ! naive idiots, aren't they ?
hilary-himmler: i'm sorry...
ole and good king delurking. a GOOD thing...
saw todd rundgren on a mountain stage program playing "hello it's me" solo, vocal/piano. seriously, he barely could get through all the changes and modulations. he had to start over like three times ! yet... still genius...
i don't know about you guys but i'm headin' for the beach...
User: DanAudioCrackWhore | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: "...our self-esteem is shattered..."
Man, they crack me up
How about that BRIDGE?
...wouldn't it be nice...
User: Come out, come out wherever you are... | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.
Dick Cheney, August 26, 2002
We know for a fact that there are weapons there.
Ari Fleischer, January 9, 2003
We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction.
Colin Powell, February 5, 2003
We know where they are. They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad.
Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003
Meanwhile, the media keeps telling us what a godly Christian Bush is, how he's an authentic cowboy and rancher, how he has the interests of the little people in mind as he borrows money to pay for tax cuts for the super-rich. At least he's not getting a BJ.
http://billmon.org.v.sabren.com/archives/000172.html
User: Markii Wooten | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: Hello, fellow Dannites. I am a good friend of Chere Snow's. I haven't heard from her in a good while and am kind of worried. If anyone has heard from her or about her, please hit me at the included address. Thanks.
User: FYI | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: The full stream of
"Everything Must Go"
was added to the SD Confessions player tonight!
http://www.repriserecords.com/steelydan/player/
User: What's the word in CT? | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: On Mohegan Sun gig? Don't see tix available on their website.
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: Pat,
I looked under all of those magazines and I still can't find that shirt.
I'm thinking it got lost in the shuffle. I haven't worn it since 1988.
Also, the future appears uncertain for the Bonnaroo Northeast concert.
Seems the county officials out there have cancelled the Field Day Concert
slated for June 7th and 8th on the same site due to a lawsuit filed
by environmental groups who claim that a proper environmental impact
study wasn't done to ensure the safety of the surrounding wildlife.
I'm thinking this probably means that Bonnaroo NE is D.O.A.
Damned environmentalists...hehehe!
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: Thanks for the 9/11 responses.
Guess who just scored four primo ducats to the Wallingford, CT Steely Dan show. ME!!!!!! Boo-yah! Who's the man!?!?!??!? I am.
So, I'll be seeing the boys (and girls) Aug.17 and Sept.10. Just too good to be my life!!!!!
Life is good.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: Howard: As Jimbo pointed out, there is a direct quote from Walter Becker in the Downbeat article, regarding the influence of 9/11 on EMG. Here is the entire quote, to put it into context, a bit.
"September 11, which came in the midst of the album's working process in Manhattan, had its impact, as well. "We were reminded anew of the impermanence of certain, seemingly permanent things, the erosion of order into chaos, and so on." Becker says."
I am dying to see the liner notes and LYRICS!!!! This has been the longest 2 week period and it's only 2 days into it. Why is it that the days go by very fast, except now? :-)
User: jon | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: Has anyone posted Godwhacker lyrics here? Can anyone refer me if so?
Thanks up front.
User: Howard | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message:
Thanks for those Onion article reminders. It's a while since I read the interview, and it's a great one! Interesting that, even then, Walter kind of questions the use of DVD surround sound mixes for their work - i.e whether it's appropriate or not. In one of the more recent interview clips he goes further and says that he prefers the traditional stereo, unless there is audience ambience to add from live shows where more genuine use can be made of the different channels. I haven't heard any music in this format, so I don't know what I would make of it...
Walter also makes the point (again, more recently reiterated) about how he applauds any new music format that allows them to reissue their old albums!
Not sure about the "post September 11th" influence on EMG. These guys have always written fictional stories, and with the kinds of characters and influences they've had from the start, they don't really need much help in coming up with dark and scary themes. I need to check out the recent interviews again to listen out for what they say... they were already talking about apocalyptic themes after 2VN, and now they've said that they have extended that in the new one. I guess the 9/11 attacks may have reinforced that, but I think they already had that path defined from a couple of years ago...
Is there any info on who did the horn arrangements on EMG? I'm guessing it will be similar to 2VN - i.e D+W with help on some tracks by someone else (Michael Leonhart). The funky horn stuff at the end of "Slang of Ages" (after "Slang me!") sounds like a Michael Leonhartism to me - love it. Some nice horn parts in Lunch with Gina too (more in Donald's style?).
Howard
User: suedave | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Hi you all,
Heard a story this morning on NPR where a town in the midwest had a train derailment with spilled chemicals some time ago; the emergency crew wanted to get the word out to everyone, so they called the local radio stations. There were 8 local stations - two were "manned", the other 6 were clear channel - and on autopilot. The result - a breakdown in emergency communications for the public benefit. Guess that didn't go over well, and the story is being used as an example of how a law should be changed I think? I guess one must also wonder about the benefit of "low-cost" in certain situations.
So about 12 days to go for the rest of us, eh?
User: Tahiti Fruity Flake | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: And reports of hearing "I kinda like frolicking with said cousin" in Things I Miss The Most are entirely misleading, sources say.
So it goes for "the hotter titties".
You just happen to have a dirty mind.
"You better get gone, Poppy
Run Run Run Run Run Run...
Godwhacker's on the case!"
User: Mr. Know-It-All | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: the ODP interview states that the lost Aja Master tapes are somewhere in the vicinity of the '54 Strat.
In other words, they were stolen at the same time and likely ended up in the same place.
The hut at Tahiti is somewhere in Tahiti.
User: the '54 strat | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: was incinerated when the nuke went off in midtown manhattan
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Wait - it's UPBEAT AN-NIHILISM!!!!!
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: DACW
Could be the just wanted to get some product out there.
One must never ever underestimate the power of extra $ in later age.
D&W, I hooked up with the head of art direction at AVON NY at the weekend, she said ''loads & loads'' of the models would just ''love'' to go to one of your shows.
I'll handle the details, If you could let me know the Min & Max number of models you need / require for a home town show.
Send me the ticket pick-up details.
(they don't travel well so this offer is limited to NY shows)
good work with the new album...vinyl release ? like you promised with 2VN...lol
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: FEZO: should be tomorrow, bud. sorry for the delay......
ygk
User: What I want to know is | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: What happened to the '54 Strat? Did the ex-wife get it in a particularly cruel divorce settlement? Did he have to sell it in order to eat?
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: coined
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: angel: They've gone from "downer surrealism" acoined by Zappa to "upbeat nihilism"...or something...
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Jimbo/Mu (DACW): Yes, the Downbeat article was where I got most of that information, but it is at home and I am at work, so I couldn't quote it.
Mu, A reposting was fine by me. :-) Considering the subject matter of the album, it's amazing that the whole thing doesn't sound like "Third World Man".
User: SpellCzech | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: revolving bands
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Jimbo, angel, Steven CT: hmmmmm...I seem to recall some "overanalysis" from a couple of months back...
...to repost or not to repost??...you bet! especially when I can stick this in StAl's face! mmwwwaaaahhhhhh!
This was based on the cover shortly after a picture was discovered on the 'net: We hadn't heard a note yet. But the themes expressed on The Last Mall, Things I Miss the Most, Blues Beach ('Medicine Park"), GodWhacker, the title track are consistent with the vibes I picked up in my pre-sculpted gray matter...
"Everything Must Go: Cover or Cover UP?
Gazing at the cover now on my eMac in Qucktime double size. Here's my take which may or may not represent even a smidgeon of what Donald & Walter have in mind.
I think the cover and album represent the New Paradigm. Most folks in the formerly increasing Dilbertian fantasy land that represented the mid to late 90s through 2000 had the notion that the new millenium began in 2000. Those who know the Gregorian calendar and Stanley Kubrick understood that the Gregorian calendar began with the year 1 AD, not 0...therefore, 2001 was the first year of the new millenium...
...and in that year, coincidentally or not, the World and the mathematics of profit and the disengenuous of greed and the faux New Economy model caught up with us, and how...laying waste to structure and dreams that were in the end just a house of cards dispersed as easily as a whisper in a digital dream...However, the human and material wreckage were grim and Real... Twisted metal, dust echoes of concrete and humanity chased us down the street and into a New Age, as different as each new age in Tolkien's Middle Earth...and the World again appeared as it indeed is: a tough, but frightengly beautiful place where the wolf is always at the door...
Everything that was new is gone, and that which was old is new again...for better of worse...
Also, a fractal of new paradigm is crystallized by the "new" back to basic approach that Steely Dan 2 used in molding EMG...In other words: Everything Must Go!
digital
drum machines
Wendel
Pro-Tools
studio musicians playing to "clicks"
over and over and over dubbing
revolving plans
hot licks and rhetoric
They ALL MUST GO!!!!
...and in the musical universe, the Kenny G's, Yanni's, and Britney Spears' of the planet All Must Go!
So we thus see a return in a sense to the recording paradigm and purpose of Katy Lied in the Dandom annals, where they first entered as a full-fledged non-Steely band, but took a core of musicians in (Becker, Fagen, Omartian, McDonald, Porcaro, Parks, Felder, Dias, and Randall) into the studio with the same strategy as the Miiles Davis albums of the 50s...
...In a large sense, the album represents not only a way of dealing with the New Paradigm, but the fallout of 9/11. After all, D&W had just begun early recording EMG at that time...following the 9/11 tragedy, they tried to go on, but the horror and ghosts, dust, and stench of death forced a retreat back to Hawaii within a few short weeks by October, 2001. What followed were recordings that dealt with, at least psychologically the collapse of the old paradigm...and as it fell corruption at Enron, Worldcom, Global Crossing were exposed, the flow of capital at the pork barrel trough shut off while both Republicans and Democrats still continued to lap it up... Whether it was at this time, D&W decided to return to analog or later I do not know, but I wonder if Things I Miss the Most is more a reflection of the New New Thing that is gone gone gone rather than an old lover...a re-expose of corruption at the nexus of the human heart. In 1999, Randy Newman wryly and ironically living the New Economy in his song "The World Isn't Fair" about Karl Marx revisiting Randy N. to find his plan in shambles;
"...If Marx were living today
He'd be rolling around in his grave
And if I had him here in my mansion on the hill
I'd tell him a story that t'would give his old heart a chill
It's something that happened to me
I'd say Karl I recently stumbled
Into a new family
With two little childrend in school
Where all little children should be
I went to the orientation
All the young mommies were there
Karl, you've never seen such a glorious sight
As these beautiful women arrayed for the night
Just like countesses, empresses, moive stars and queens
And they'd come here with men just like me
Froggish men, unpleasant to see
Were you to kiss one Karl
Nary a prince would there be
Oh Karl the world isn't fair
It isn't and never will be
They tried out your plan
It brought misery instead
If you'd seen how they worked it
You'd be glad you were dead
Just like I'm glad that I'm living in the land of the free
Where the rich just get richer
And the poor your don't ever have to see
'It would depress us Karl'
Because we care
That the world isn't fair"
Case in point: while at a conference I see the potential of human scientific and engineering endeavor, a new billion dollar monument to the idols of professional ball, and those practicing free speech against a war that is sorta over, de poor people sleeping without de shade or de light!...nary a panhandler or criminal as on the streets of Baltimore, but the physically handicapped, the mentally challenged and mentally ill...strewn blocks from restorations and fancy hotels...I gave what few piasters I could in these overbudgeted times...while watching women in cell phones shrieking at the tattered walking slowly but too closely like they're barely Alive in America...
So I think of this EMG in anticipation as a reverse Kamakiriad, a clever look at the immediate future and its ramifications told through the unique prism of the Steely subconscious...the warts and despair of America exposed...The inherent evil and folly, once glossed over in a corporate world and post-yuppie Clintonian fantasy enabling reared again, like the nightmarish skyscraper on the cover of the Royal Scam... the themes of Show Biz Kids, Charlie Freak, Any World, etc. revisited now told from their unique perspective of the new Paradigm time, age, and point of view...a thinking man's "The Rising"...as usual with Steely Dan, I expect more from the process and the pictures dealing with "what is left" painted than pedestrian sledgehammer themes...
...to the cover: a shroud or wall of doom surround the mostly back and white photo where only gold/precious stone in color...is the man, decendent of fallen kings wiping a tear with his left hand, rubbing his eyes in exhaustion or in acceptance of his fate? The precious rings and stones in a suitcase is kind of a metaphor for the once powerful Ken Lay no longer using their suitcases for transport of important papers (like plans to count foreign plant aquisitions and employees' stock options and 401ks as "profit."
...But in the end, and I have a feeling especially from the reviews that the album also addresses the opportunity of a new beginning, to set things right...despite despair, some teahouse on the tracks may be wating for us after all...
...to no longer live in a place where, to borrow from Randy Newman again,
"of all of the people
that I used to know
Most never adjusted
to the great big world
I see them lurking in book stores
working for the public radio
carrying their babies in a sack on their back
moving careful and slow...
...all of these people
are much brighter than I
In any fair system
they would flourish and thrive
But they barely survive
They eke out a living
and they barely survive"
Or NOT"
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: I misread the link.
It's actually
http://www.theonionavclub.com/avclub3713/avfeature_3713.html
Sorry about that, if anyone tried to get in earlier.
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Steven- In the Downbeat issue, there are some references to 9/11 that another person on the GB brought up. Something to do with "the erosion of order into chaos" as Becker mentioned. As for "Godwhacker," the writer thinks this: "Songs like the opener, The Last Mall, Godwhacker(about an assassination attempt on God), and the gospel-tinged Mercy, Mercy, Me-like title track contain a satirically apocalyptic resonance, albeit with upbeat, evn life-affirming musical trappings."
Makes you wonder if politicians want to be the Godwhackers. But then again, that's the writer's interpretation. He could ask, but Don and Walt won't tell him.
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: 12 More days till EMG.
Yesterday, I bought the Downbeat issue with Don and Walt. Very good article. I was hoping they'd talk more about how they shocked and hopefully pissed off the Clear Channel-run music industry by winning those four grammys two years ago. But that's okay. Maybe another magazine will cover it.
You might want to read the interview conducted two years ago by Joshua Klein. His questions were to the point.
http://www.theonionclub.com/avclub3713/avfeature_3713.html
In that interview, you'll find out that Puff Daddy tried to sample a Steely Dan tune and when he heard someone else did it ahead of him, he said something that really showed how arrogant he is. Lenny Kravitz plays a dubious role in this.
Clas- I know you're not crazy about Norah Jones, but on June 10th, Peter Malick, a singer songwriter in NY, will release an EP of 5 songs featuring Norah recorded in 2000. The name of the album is "New York City" and will be released by Koch Records.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Steven in CT: Very timely, actually. Not like I have any idea about what they did personally, but the album was in its beginning process, when 9/11 hit. D & W are on record as saying some of the cuts are directly a result 9/11 and its aftermath. "Things I Miss The Most", "Last Mall", "Godwacker" and even the title cut, may owe all, or part of their existence, to 9/11. Leave it to the Dan to transend horror and make something good out of it.
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: I am interested in getting some opinions on this topic.
What was Steely Dan's reaction to 9/11?
I honestly don't mean anything negative toward Donald and Walter in asking this. I believe I read that they (Walter?) auctioned off something (a guitar? some artwork?) through a radio station in Hawaii with the proceeds going to 9/11 relief. But these are two New York area guys. I wouldn't be surprised if they lost people in the WTC. I read that 'Godwhacker' is in some way a response to 9/11. True?
Maybe I'm unaware of other things they have done or statements they have made in this regard. But most New Yorkers were profoundly affected by the attack and I guess I expected SD to react somehow. Not that they are obligated to share their reaction with us. Grief can be a very private thing.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
And I do realise this is not a particularly timely question. Sorry.
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Not sure if this site has been posted before but it's one of those classic Internet time burners...
http://covers.wiw.org/artist/Steely+Dan
What surprised me most was I never knew String Cheese Incident covered Bodhisattva. Time for a Phishhook search...
Minutemen? Sublime? Interesting stuff.
Bill. Do yourself a favor and go to Bonaroo. If I lived within 500 miles of that show I'd be there. The original -- in Manchester TN has been sold out for a long time. One of the benefits of living on the heavily populated East coast are gigs like this. However, if you go, make sure to wear your I VOTED REPUBLICAN shirt. That'll really twist all those patchouli-soaked teenager minds.
Yes, I know you voted for Nader -- that's not the point. You know you have the shirt. It's in your bottom drawer. Right above your collection of "Swank" magazines...
Beers: Did I miss your review of the PG show? Wasn't it just about the best damn thing you've ever seen? Did he do the full-blown UP show complete with big rubber ball, round stage and phallic symbol?
StAl
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Howard
Have you seen that pink paint that dries white ?
What a good idea that is.
I too shall be enjoying EMG in the garden tonight.
Godwhacker my Fav so far.
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: YGK,
I'm not sure how much help the internet is for a new band trying
to be heard but it's something the older artists didn't have years ago.
How much of a help do you feel the net has been to you?
Beerberian,
I believe it goes "E-I-E-I-O". This is according to the Old Mcdonald's
English Handbook.
(Oops, Before I forget again...)
Happy 100th Birthday to Bob Hope!
Without a doubt Bob Hope was one of the funniest acts in history.
Just watching some of his old movies will have you laughing your ass off.
His timing was absolutely fantastic. Thanks Bob!
User: Howard | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message:
Back from a few days decorating in the new house...
Played EMG quite a few times while doing the painting. Godwhacker, Lunch With Gina and the title track are still the strongest tracks in my mind. Green Book, Pixelene and Last Mall are not far behind. Blues Beach is still the only track that I feel could have been left out.
Blues Harp solo in Godwhacker and some of the other mad keyboard solos are great. Lots of great vocal harmonies. Tasty blues guitar and solid bass from Walter. Donald in truly fine voice.
The Mu Major chord is still, quite clearly, alive and well! There may even be a few "firsts" in the use of this SD favourite. Further analysis pending.
Clas - I didn't see the Eurovision song contest (haven't even heard the song) but am delighted that the UK got zero points! A quality performance.
Howard
User: Beers over easy | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: DACW; I knew that ... I was tired and emotional , OK Pissed !!! LOL
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47772-2003May28.html
Michael PowellÆs e-mail belowàsupport freedom and opportunity for artists and consumers concerning Internet and broadcast radio! I'd even offer TV deregulation for increased local control of Radio...
http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/powell/mkp_email.html
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: own
User: AndNaughty-OSnackedSmores | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Beer: Easy big fella... It's not really my place to explain my own jokes...I have other people doing that... ;-)
"From Berry Gordy to Milli Vanilli to American Karaoke, it's never changed...only a few make it financially, and they either blow it ..."
[reference to Michael Jackson...this week...see next VH1s Behind the Music for next week's loser]
"... or move to England..."
[reference to Madonna...the new Queen of Virtue...crown won in a crap shoot from Bill Bennett]
"...or end up in taxicabs..."
[reference to our oun Steely Dan]
This PSA brought to you by The Henny Youngman Foundation for Tone Deaf Fiddling and Petersen Wax Earplugs...
User: Beerberian | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: DACW; Would you care to explain "and they either blow it or move to England" ? I would hate to think you consider that failure...?
Bill; E & I ? and their juxtaposition ... discuss, or move to England...
YGK; We all judge, it's a kind of human condition, I think. In my personal judgement I preferred the swedish "non biz" stuff to a lot (but not all) on the Steely Knives CD. Hey, but that's showbiz hey?
Pat; So what did I do then? no PG banter?
User: Joe M | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Yo StAl!
Thanks for the props my man...
Revision 3.00 CDSD in the works.
EMG is a freaking CLASSIC, plain and simple.
Scorching solo's, mind boggling chord progressions, great vocals. Damn... It's gonna be a great summer.
JM
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Bill,
Yes, the deals upcoming artists sign are extremely unfair and favor the label: IÆm not going to go into excruciating detail, but suffice to say, the label essentially, lends money and makes some back û to the artists negative benefit, or the artist makes a little money, and the label makes back their investment and then some. Major label deals are ripe with unreasonable publishing deals and advances. I know David Moore has a link to explain how this works û itÆs pretty comical.
At the end of the day, the Independent Artist needs to have a product, and a place to play to sell it, in addition to any other internet/brick and mortar situations.
The more hands in the pot, the less that artist will make, like anything.
Want Promotion? Ok, but you pay up front.
Radio Airplay? Break out the Benjamins.
Some successful Indy artists are making their own tours in areas where they can handle, visit record stores, and build a following. WeÆre having enough of a time building a steady schedule of gigs in the city, because we donÆt do bandmills, and club owners are notoriously lazy about booking unless you have a huge draw.
ItÆs a brave new world.
Thanx for your empathy.
DACW: I will look into it........
ygk
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Bill: That why Maria charges Extra (over 50K) to make someone in the Record Business disappear!
From Berry Gordy to Milli Vanilli to American Karaoke, it's never changed...only a few make it financially, and they either blow it or move to England or end up in taxicabs (some of them driving)...for example, Aaron Neville got nothing, nada, el Zippo for his early hits including the No1 Smash "Tell It Like It Is."
The current assault of the RIAA and Clear Channel and Mark Cuban on Internet Radio (and even Gnutella) is all about Corporate CONTROL, not about making sure the artist receives proper recompence!... as guaranteed under the Constitution...because they, the record company weasels, know that Internet Radio is the last bastion of Aural Freedom left...Radio and Websites are the way for Independent and non-label artists to advertise...and importantly for music loving folks to find some real talent...
YGK: I've got a dumb question...Can you "display" your wares on Live 365 networks? ...Justin Morell's Dan tribute album has had a slow progression in sales and is selling pretty well on amazon.com
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: YGK,
I've got to hand it to you and everyone else who is trying to make it
in the music business.
I watched a show this morning (was it on VH1 or MTV?) about a couple
of rap artists who sold millions of albums but by the time they got
finished paying back the money that the record companies fronted them
they wound up with next to nothing.
There was this one group, I forget the name right now, that sold quite
a few cd's and after they paid back everything they owed they each got
something like 15 grand. I think there were 3 members of the group.
They wound up with 15 grand each after selling all those cd's???
What the hell is that? I just shook my head as I heard that...
Apparently the acts make thier money by touring after thier album is
successful. Also, if you can become a producer and produce the music of
other up and coming acts, then you'll make good buck at it.
Maybe the feds should investigate the music industry the same as they
should investigate Don King and his ilk over in the boxing industry.
User: Michael Jackson | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Anybody seen $500,000,000 lying around? No wonder those kids liked the couch...
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Clas: I'm dying to know. Why do you always have to criticize people? Why do you have to be so damn rude?
I'm just wondering because like many on this message board we also know another side of your personality. One that is engaging, honest and polite. What makes you want to say such negative things? I honestly want to know why.
Has everyone had a chance to download the new Everything Must Go screensaver? Or should I say -- all PC owners... Checking the logs it appears as if it's been downloaded over 1000 times. Way to go Joe!
Pat
User: Beers | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Sound of the Suburbs ?
User: Beavis 'n Butthead | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: He said "member." uhhh huuuhhh huuhhhuuhhhh
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message:
YGK: Well said mate.
User: The Co-worker | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Come to think of it, Clas does talk about his dog's member alot.
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Great! Clas - now that we got that out of the way........Since you're not in the biz, or even trying to be, you have no business judging those who either make some of their living struggling to create original musical things, and making it work in the music business. It's not easy or guaranteed.
So judge/criticize what you know about: Signage, Your Dog's Member, and Drinking/AA.
Meanwhile, I will forge ahead with what is a difficult proposition of making a living making music.
Lars: at this point, we're out. When we make our 2nd pressing, I will have a link/system for ordering: domestic US and International. Thanx for asking.
ygk
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 27
Message: No, the first pressing was actually 264 copies, and I bought them all!
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 4 | Day: 27
Message: YGK - second pressing? Wow, the first pressing was 250 ex...
How come one can't buy that one in an CD-store? No distribution, no label, no contract, Malc?
Homespun?
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 27
Message: OLE: 2nd pressing soon, I hope........we're out of the first
www.jazziz.com
http://www.summerstage.org/
Hope this helps....
ygk
User: allthenewsthat'sprinttofit | Month: 4 | Day: 27
Message: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42091-2003May26.html
User: bwaySteve | Month: 4 | Day: 27
Message: Last night @ Hawthorne , Steely Stan placed. Paid $6.20
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: Has anyone bought tickets for Bonnaroo Northeast yet?
It's a 3 day concert out on eastern Long Island. The tickets are around
$200 bucks (Except for the V.I.P. Tix which are $1200 a pair).
The following acts will be performing there...
Bob Dylan
Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds
The Dead
Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers
String Cheese Incident
Gov't Mule
Rusted Root
North Mississippi Allstars
Steve Winwood
Hot Tuna
The Radiators
And too many more bands/artists to list.
The website is www.bonnaroo.com
User: The Philosopher's Stoned | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: for a new oblique perspective - www.everythingforever.com
happy mind-bending
User: Fingers | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: The Dan Collective:
(ex- Danny Steel Orchestra)
The UK's latest Steely Dan Revue band
are appearing on
Saturday 31st May at 9pm
The Musician
Clyde Street
Leicester, LE1 3DE
box office
0116 283 5533
Performing the coolest music on the planet...STEELY DAN
All live ...and kicking.
"close your eyes and you'll be there, it's everything they say..."
www.thedancollective.co.uk
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: C, nice Even in the Quietest sig reference. Anyway, I'm very captivated by recent records by The Soundtrack of Our Lives (yes Swedes that they are) and Lucinda Williams (very intense). BTW, the Fair Forgery sales numbers from the GB are very paltry (angel & tones). I know everyone is saving their money for EMG but if you get a chance to acquire AFFoPF, please do so -- I'm not begging (ok, I'm begging -- the link is "my homepage above). We just sold a copy to a guy in Russia and have sold copies to buyers in Austrailia, France, the Netherlands, England, Ireland and Canada. I'm hitting all the South American Floyd sites to try to generate sales down there but my Spanish is "sin" clue.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: Has anyone else (StAl?) notice a vague similarity (bit & pieces) between Godwacker and I Got the Bear?...it takes some sculpting to hear it...
30 sec clips are great...put them on for a fix...they don't do the whole song structures justice by any stretch of the imagination!!!!!!...with the TvN clips, the rest of the songs fell into place...here, the songs take off in unexpected directions...the scary thing is that the title track on at least half of the Dan albums would be the strongest track...but every song in that string from Godwhacker to Slang of Ages to Greenbook to Pixeleen to Lunch With Gina is going to be scrumptious beyond belief...and Things I Miss the most is probably equal...love the echo and open soundscape of The Last Mall...
This will be a Special recording...
User: C @ Work | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: Brits - ah no! Sweden has done pretty well over the years, it started with Abba.
Finland, that's Scandinavia okay, those eastern people use to take the Jumbo.
Strange thing is, Israel is allowed to participate in the contest, but not Syria or Lebanon.
---
Anyone know where I can find the link where Fagen/Becker is making fun over the deaths of Andy and Maurice Gibb?
User: GoodKingRichard | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: Hey there!
It's been a (long) while. Just lurking, as anticipation of the new one gets the better of me... that and working out while of my souls to sell to see the guys in concert. Good to see some familiar faces still hanging in there.
Hope all's well with you and yours, wherever you are
Richard&kangaroos
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message:
C@W: Very confusing, I agree. I'm sure that, in previous years, a song only scored "Zero Points" if it was Scandinavian in origin, or does my memory deceive me?
User: Bad Sneakers | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: Clas
It was such a good song too - What was it called ??? Pixeleen or something
Still theres always next year - the Scottish entry from my Spinal Tap cover band "Punctured brain" - A reworking of 'Stonehenge' with a dance beat - Working on it now
Bet you can't wait eh ???
User: C @ W | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: Howard - did you watch the Eurovision Song Contest?
Britain; zero points, he he...
User: Giving a little bit... | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: ... I fell asleep once with the radio on. Woke up in the middle of the night, to the song "Downstream". That's a beautiful song.
StAl - so if Global Warming, Child Abuse etc etc are serious business, that means that RocknRoll isn't?
Come on now, there are such things as differences in degrees.
---
Where can I find the link to the weird interview where Becker/Fagen are talking about how much Maurice Gibb, Bee Gees and Andy Gibb meant to them?
C
User: oleander | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Hello strangers. Delurking momentarily.
Dr. K--Well, I swan. I would never have taken you for a closet optimist--"the next one after the new one," indeed.
FlaDavid--We were HOURS north of you, otherwise I would've called in a clockdrive heartbeat.
lc paul--welcome back.
Bway Steve--I'm looking forward to hearing you again.
Zeke--Next year, 'k? Meantime, we have the Orange Peel here to keep us in tastes of the Fest. Ex-Howling Wolf folks up from NO.
YGK--slowly I turned.... Did you say Ben Folds Five this summer? They broke up, after all.... Can you steer me to more info?
WJAZ, other NC Danizens--what think about a bus trip to Atlanta?
This... album... will... RULE....
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Even in the Quietest Moments is a great record (not much of a rocker). "Monday, has come around again . . . . ."
User: DACW - Stop Michael Powell Now! | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Daddy, give your son a spanking!
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/5/25/121501.shtml
Both the right and left wing media agree on this one
Daddy must have pulled something off though - SHARON CAVES!!!!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38418-2003May25.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32154-2003May23.html
t: me, I'm laughing
"Yes. I've always been a Yankees fan"
"I'm part Jewish"
"Yes, visited the grieving 9/11 families"
Dan on the Cover of both Downbeat and Ice!!
User: Doctor Warren Kruger | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Since it's getting darn close to the release of the new one in the States, I decided to take guerilla action (with the help of my ex-patient/prisoner,z)to get to the bottom of the WB lead guitar/bass issue.
Things are bad in NY, so I was able to get z's service for a song, and we hopped aboard the Krugerplane, and reached the avocado fields in a matter of hours.
The plan was this: I'd distract the underpaid migrant workers he has making slave wages for him, and z would chloroform him and get him into the Krugerplane for the Amytal session.
It went like a dream, and I even have a transcription of the Amytal session, featuring z and myself, probing WB for the truth.
Those of you offended by frank language should probably not read WB's answers, as his mouth is literally full of tar during much of this:
WB: The fuck is goin'on?
Dr.K: Now relax sir, we're just trying to get to the bottom of the lead guitar/bass issue on the new one.
WB: What?
z: Look buddy, don't play dumb with us. You know what we're talking about- you playing both bass and all the lead guitar solos on the new one.
WB: Oh, that. We were going for more of a set group sound and-
z: Don't give me this set group crap, even on the atrocious early junk, you had Skunk or Denny take the solos!
WB: Well, my playing has matured since then, and I-
z: Oh come on, I heard your solo on "Jack of Speed" on TVN, it was pitiful, pitiful!
WB: Actually I think I got some good-
z: And how come the solo on "Plush" was so much better?
WB: Jon gave me a little hand with-
z: Yeah, I thought so! Look, why the hell are you doing this? You're destroying a time honored tradition on SD albums. The first thing me and my friends discuss is who played the solos on the last SD album, and now you're ruining the damn time honored tradition! How can you ruin a time honored tradition?
WB: Look, where the hell am I? What did you give me? I feel kinda-
z: You started with TVN and now you're just going hog wild! You're playing the goddamn bass on every track on-
Dr. K.: Uh,z- could you watch the language?
z: Oh, sorry doc, got a little carried away.
So why couldn't you just call Chuck Rainey, or Tom Barney, or Marcus Miller, or any other of those black dudes you usually use?
Why, you're not even black!
WB: Chuck doesn't live around here anymore and- no, this is ridiculous! What am I doing answering this maniac?
z: Maniac? I've been treated by Doc K. here, and he totally cured me! Right Doc? Tell him!
Dr.K.: Well, maybe there are some unresolved issues that you need to-
z: See! I'm alright now. And we want answers!
WB: Look, there's a cop over there!
Dr.K.: Cops? There aren't any-
z: Hey, he's getting away!
Dr.K.:Guldarn it!
At this point, he squirmed away. That fellow has the constitution of an ox! I gave hin enough amytal to keep him under for hours.
He must have a lot of experience with the barbituates, but I think we got our point across.
The next one after the new one is bound to be a lot different from the new one.
Triumphantly Yours,
Dr.K.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: jjeff: Actually, I own a signed copy of Breakfast in America. I just meant that I thought Steely Dan should have been higher then them. What can I say. Others who came out ahead of the Boys, Foreigner, Journey, & STYX. Things that make you go, hmmmm.
Doobies, Police, Bowie, Peter Gabriel and Cars were behind them. Not like it was a scientific study of music, or anything, listeners choice. Of course, I didn't send anything in, so I didn't skew the results. :-)
User: jjeff-I think I wet 'em | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Tones, you're hummin' in a most excellent way. Keep it up. Make me laugh.
Angel: You don't like Supertramp? I'll admit Breakfast... was quite commercial and overplayed MOR, but Crime... was an incredible album and makes up 80% of their material on their currant tour. Maybe it was the period I grew up, I can't say. Crisis.. another fine album.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Well the local Classic Rock Clear Channel station in my area is doing a top 100 type thing this weekend. I happened to be in the car when Rikki came on and caught the fact that SD is number 31 on their list. They then played Deacon Blues and (of course) Reelin'. I ran an errand and came back to the car just in time to learn that Supertramp was number 29. The nerve! :-)
They also mentioned that they gave away lots of tickets to the SD upcoming concerts recently. I missed that, but found it amusing. Especially when I had asked if that station would be playing Blues Beach and they said they had never heard of it and didn't know that Steely Dan had a new album coming out soon.
Also heard Deacon Blues in a 107 year old, 24 hour Cafe this morning. Bet the patrons of this establishment aren't used to hearing Wayne Shorter solos, as a general rule.
Good Steely kind of day, today! :-)
User: We hate Hitlery because | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: She refused to attend any memorial services for any of her "constituents" who were killed on 9.11 except for the gay priest who was hit by a falling body.
Also, after her husband raped Juanita Broaddrick TWICE in Little Rock, she intimidated the victim saying to keep her mouth shut about the rape. Hitlery is an evil enabler.
User: except for the gay priest who was hit by a falling body | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: spoken like a true compassionate conservative
User: Mr.Chips | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Today's lesson:
Compare and contrast the money spent by the independent prosecutor's office probing where the former president spilt his seed versus the dollars allocated to investigating why the Bush adminitration failed to take any action* to prevent the 9/11 attacks despite numerous warnings from both inside and outside the government.
Invoking the name of country music acts, movie stars you don't like, or speculating about the patriotism of the questioner is considered non-responsive.
*Unless you consider Ashcroft switching from commercial to private air travel two months prior "taking action"
User: tones | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: btw, now that our resident hooeys are posting again, I want to re-pose a question: what specifically did Hillary Clinton do to piss you all off?
I'm posing this question with honest intentions and I won't rebuke any honest answers. I just want to know. The only comment I have about it is this: a lot of the reaction she gets seems to me to be knee-jerk and misogynistic. For instance, I can name several political and historical reasons G.W and Bill Clinton should be put in jail, but no one seems to have any concrete reasons to spew so much bile at HRC. And if that's the case it certainly says a lot more about you than it does about her.
Toss me a clue if you can spare one...
User: What are they putting in the water down there in Tampa? | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Hey - Do you think Clinton was the first president to masturbate? No. But he was the first to have the opposing party waste *20 million tax dollars* to investigate it.
Maybe if you tried it you wouldn't get so "worked up" about it...
And while you're so ready to place blame, where did the "Osama problem" originate? Hmmmmm? let me help you - think back to 1985 and remember who was in office.
Now grab yourself and Victoria's Secret catalog and... grab yourself...
User: Luckless Pedestrian, fresh from the Sunday Times | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Remember kids, you can find a fuck up on Mid-East policy in every administration dating back, and including, Truman...
User: FaceTheFace | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Good day one and all!!
Per a Bon Voyage for our most toasted "bad girl": show of hands those who have AOL, Yahoo messenger, or AIM. Almost every one of us can access one or more of these three - AIM being the easiest and free downloadable from the NET. We'll do our own chat thing if Cyn still has the time before she has to report to the boarding gate, which, with the high terror alert may have been yesterday.
Let us make a concerted effort to join hands in a Banyan Tree-like circle and bang the drum slowly...no dead men walking! We goin' to do the ritual dance of the spear-toting, head-hunting, flesh-eating, camel-riding heathen chil'lins from the great concrete jungle. Everyone on with your Air Jordans, this requires superior calf muscles and extreme stamina of maximum glutius. Zulu warriors we style ourselves - misdirected though we may be, spears ever at the ready to run through the windmill enemy. On with my armor good squire Sancho!!! Dulcinea, Dulcinea...
Let us lay down our spears then and have mirth and happiness in spite of ourselves.
Cyn: please to instruct possible dates and times for the Celebrity Rude Roast and directions to the diner (there are too many to list here in New Joisey, but they are all good venues and instantly recognizable for the slang-slung bein' dun.
Think I'll go buy tickets to see the "boys" ten minutes up the parkway at the PNC Arts Center cumm August....(and you asked "why New Jersey of all places?!")
User: Hey DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Hitlery Rotten Clinton's book is being released the day before EMG is released. Do you think she is going to give her opinion about why her husband decided to make love to the oval office sink rather than her? And will she tell us why she didn't attend any memorial services for any of the victims of 9.11 except for the gay priest who was hit by a falling body?
User: Razor Boy | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Give hell DACW. At least someone here sees things the way I do. No worries, the hole they've dug is much to deep to crawl out of anyway.
It doesn't take a village, it takes a village idiot. Global warming my ass. Alright Chicken Little, I'm a duckin'---------lookout.
Going to restock the mini, and hang with Abbu, and Pix
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: add Robert Rubin - domestically
User: Hutch | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Clas - We got little buckeroos over here. They're tougher than gringos and cowboys combined!
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Razor - yes, they're all great stuff...and the 30 sec clips don't reveal the interesting twists and turns of virtually every song...the tete a tete between Walter and Donald on Greenbook is pretty cool...Pixelene is a timeless classic...Lunch with Gina is foreveahhh. Combine Pretzel Logic, Katy, Nightfly, a touch of Nightfly, Kama and a live sho...these recordings have real neural adhesion properties! This is something special!!!
StAl: Yes they are (except for global warming which doesn't exist currently and can a squelched from starting through FUEL CELLS), and Clinton ignored them and rode the .com bubble until it burst. In fairness, part of the problem was that Bill Clinton was the ONLY real talent in his administration besides Dick Morris...the rest were incompetent (but who hired them?). In W's case, he's surrounded by talent (kind of the opposite) - he has to choose who's right...mostly he relies on Powell and Rice...
Bill Clinton = Edwin Edwards
I think by the time Clinton stopped playing golf and woke up regarding foreign policy (besides bombin aspirin factories) it was too late...the failed negotiation at Camp David where Barak gave Arafat everything the Paelstinian Arabs wanted - Gaza, the West Bank - a connecting land strip, halting of Israeli settlements must have been an eye opener. It's not a concidence that the latest PLO and Hamas terrorist campaign immeidately just after that time...by that time Clinton was busy with PardonGate instead of his job...
Ken Starr: Don't you have graduation at Pepperdine to organize or something? As usual, your research depends on thinly researched opinion pieces from now disereputable news sources. This is not your father's (Bob Woodward's) Washington Post. We know now that the NY Times, CNN, and Washington Post just flat MAKE IT UP!! I went to overseas sources (ENGLAND) for the REAL facts:
How come Clinton didnÆt pay attention to the FBIÆs most wanted international fugitive poster (from 1999!)
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
It was known that bin Laden had direct ties to the USS Cole the day after the bombing!!!:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2000/10/13/wclin13.xml
Bill Clinton had plans to attack Al Qaeda in December, 2000, but blew it off:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2002%2F08%2F05%2Fwalq05.xml
The man who negotiated handing over Osama by the Sudan to Clinton in 1996 sez otherwise:
Chuck Noe,
Thursday, Dec. 6, 2001
Bill Clinton ignored repeated opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist allies and is responsible for the spread of terrorism, one of the ex-presidentÆs own top aides charges.
Mansoor Ijaz, who negotiated with Sudan on behalf of Clinton from 1996 to 1998, paints a portrait of a White House plagued by incompetence, focused on appearances rather than action, and heedless of profound threats to national security.
Ijaz also claims Clinton passed on an opportunity to have Osama bin Laden arrested.
Sudanese President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, hoping to have terrorism sanctions lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of bin Laden and "detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas,ö Ijaz writes in todayÆs edition of the Los Angeles Times.
These networks included the two hijackers who piloted jetliners into the World Trade Center.
But Clinton and National Security Adviser Samuel "Sandyö Berger failed to act.
öI know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities,ö Ijaz writes.
öThe silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening.
öAs an American Muslim and a *****political SUPPORTER of Clinton,***** I feel now, as I argued with Clinton and Berger then, that their counter-terrorism policies fueled the rise of bin Laden from an ordinary man to a Hydra-like monster,ö says Ijaz, chairman of a New York investment company and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
IjazÆs revelations are but the latest to implicate the Clinton administration in the spread of terrorism. Former CIA and State Department official Larry Johnson today also noted the failure of Clinton to do more than talkàö
User: Razor Boy | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: EMG is outstanding. Slang of Ages and Pixeleen are my faves so far. Pixeleen may be one of my favorited Dan tunes to date. These guys never cease to amaze. See everyone on tour.
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Hey: Bottom line is a lot of bad things would have never happened if hindsight was actually foresight. I'm not a fan of Clinton either for some of the very things you elude to, but your argument is pointless and only serves to inflame and cloud the real issues.
Clas: Grand scheme. War, Famine, Poverty, Human Rights, Child Abuse, Global Warming. Those are serious issues. Rock and Roll? Give me a fucking break.
StAl
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: That must be the ultimate US-Gringo, so obsessed with someone elses sexlife.
Like FBI's Hoover.
User: Bill Clinton's Hunt For Osama Bin Laden | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: 25. Id. at 17. After the sexual encounter, she saw the President masturbate in the bathroom near the sink. Id. at 18.
31. Id. at 26. As Ms. Lewinsky departed, she observed the President "manually stimulating" himself in Ms. Hernreich's office. Id. at 27.
35. Id. at 30-32. They engaged in oral-anal contact as well. See Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 29-33.
37. Id. at 37-38. The President then put the cigar in his mouth and said to Ms. Lewinsky: "it tastes good." Lewinsky 7/30/98 Int. at 12-13; see also Lewinsky Depo. at 38.
User: Hey, | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Bottom line is Clinton let Osama go free when he could have taken him into custody. And trying to shift the blame to Shakes The Clown Janet Reno's legal advice is sad. Your president chose to masturbate into the Oval Office sink instead of neutralize Osama Bin Laden. It is not something you should be proud of.
User: FDR | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: I beat off looking at the Saturday Evening Post on December 6, 1941.
Sorry about that.
User: In These Times | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: "Operation Desert Mirage
Americans may have already forgotten about weapons of mass destruction, but the United Nations hasnÆtùand itÆs demanding answers
By Ian Williams
Faith moves mountains, hides weapons, and makes oil flow. At the beginning of May, the new viceroy of Iraq, retired Lt. Gen. Jay Garner, who seems to have recently resumed his military title, announced that the shortage of gasoline in Iraq was the United NationsÆ fault. He said that continuing U.N. sanctions stopped supplies to the pumps in Baghdad.
Of course, until then, most of us not schooled in the new Republican reality had assumed that the purpose of U.N. sanctions was to stop Iraq exporting oil except under strictly regulated circumstances. So if the U.N. Oil for Food program was struggling to get moving again, this meant that there was less oil being exported, which should mean that there was more oil left behind in Iraq. But reality shimmers like a mirage in the growing desert heat. It is always the United NationsÆ fault.
Anyone else but this administration would blush when faced with the absence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But it was fairly obvious that the White House was only kidding when it used that as the excuse to the United Nations for the invasion. Now, they genuinely seem unembarrassed when they ask the Security Council to give validation to their conquest, which was allegedly carried out in support of the United Nations, in search of weapons that they alleged were definitely there, and which the allegedly conniving and inefficient U.N. weapons inspectors willfully would not find.
Or maybe the invasion was to force the Iraqis to cooperate properly with the weapons inspectors. Certainly Washington is now refusing to let the weapons inspectors return to Iraqùpossibly because they had proved their inefficiency by not finding the weapons that a quarter of a million heavily armed allies have also failed to find. Even the British at the United Nations agree that no one will believe an allied ôdiscoveryö of weapons in Iraq unless it is koshered by U.N. inspectors. When Bush says the weapons ôwill be found,ö it does sound almost as much like an order as a prophecy.
But then, no one has found Osama bin Laden in Baghdad; indeed, they cannot find Saddam Hussein in Baghdad either. If ordinary Fox News viewers scratched their medium-term memory, this could worry them, since this was part of the war against terrorism and payback time for 9/11."
read more:
http://inthesetimes.com/comments.php?id=187_0_1_0_C
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Ooopsie, I forgot, for all musicians who wants to be a part of the 4th Guestbook CD, here's the URL:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/sketchesandstrangeloops
While you're writing down my address you are able to listen to Gina, featuring Steady Session and Short Fuse; "Out of Line", cool song.
And if you're interested to hear more from the Steady Session's new album, you can here more clips if you log in on the record company:
www.streetzone.com
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Keyshaw - you're not welcome to one of those Danfests, isn't that terrible? How are you going to deal with it?
Jimbo - I own 2 Yellow Jackets albums, and I bought them in town, in an ordinary CD-store; "Greenland" & "Mint Jam", which I think is their latest, a live album. Excellent musicians. My fave song on that album is "Turtoise and the Hare".
On their webpage they say the drummer is Marcus Baylor, but before him I think it was a guy named Kennedy?
I have a friend, who's a sucker for the music Yellow Jackets made back in the 80's, he played some of that music for me, and I couldn't believe it was the same band, awful fusion, with awfully sounded synth sounds.
(And for selling their music on their webpage, I know another band that does that too, Steely Dan is their name)
---
StAl - "only rocknroll", wow! To me it's serious stuff. And it's quite obvious that it is for some other people too, it's a Money Making Machine Pat, and any Money Making Machine whatsoever, on this earth, is pretty "serious".
User: Ken Starr | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: What a Crock
http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2002/national-reporting/works/100301a.html
By Barton Gellman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 3, 2001; Page A01
The government of Sudan, employing a back channel direct from its president to the Central Intelligence Agency, offered in the early spring of 1996 to arrest Osama bin Laden and place him in Saudi custody, according to officials and former officials in all three countries.
The Clinton administration struggled to find a way to accept the offer in secret contacts that stretched from a meeting at a Rosslyn hotel on March 3, 1996, to a fax that closed the door on the effort 10 weeks later. Unable to persuade the Saudis to accept bin Laden, and lacking a case to indict him in U.S. courts at the time, the Clinton administration finally gave up on the capture.
...
Clinton administration officials maintain emphatically that they had no such option in 1996. In the legal, political and intelligence environment of the time, they said, there was no choice but to allow bin Laden to depart Sudan unmolested.
"The FBI did not believe we had enough evidence to indict bin Laden at that time, and therefore opposed bringing him to the United States,"
So what was bush doing for nine months before 9/11? Vacationing at his ranch and talking to cows? Choking on pretzels? Planning a pipeline deal with the Taliban?
Bombing of the USS Cole: The proof that the Cole bombing was the work of al Qaeda operatives came down from the FBI in February 2001. Please tell us Republicans "Who was president at that time?"
So....Why didn't the Bush people punish al Qaeda when they got proof that the group was behind the Cole bombings? HMMMMM?????
See: http://www.monitor.net/monitor/0202a/enroncoverup.html
7 months to do something. Still no substantive hearings on what the WH knew before 9/11. Wonder why?
Try some facts next time shameless...
User: DACW - the final solution | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Programming merging King of the World and The Nightfly...9 Hits:
The Last Mall - One last trip to Neiman-Marcus before the Big One
Things I Miss the Most - What do you mean I can
t unload the Ryder into the Fallout shelter...hey, what's this old picture of Tuesday Weld doing here?
Blues Beach - Is it SP 30,000 sunscreen for Nookyular Fallout?
GodWhacker - They're going after the Big One with the Power Puff Girls
Slang of Ages - Parlez-vous a hubba hubba, mutant babe?
Green Book - There's gotta be one number in my glowing, formerly black, book who's got her cell phone and neural net still on...the future of the human race depends on us...where are my remedies?
Pixeleen - Can't make a connection...maybe I'll finally answer one of those Singles Spam ads...or maybe I can get on Blind Date?
Lunch with Gina - I wouldn't date you if you were the last woman in the world...Oh, you are the last woman in the world...
Everything Must Go - Oy, look at this mess! Mutants will trade for canned meat...looks like I'm back in Vegas with a pot handle in my hand...
...See you next year!...
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: ¯: Yeah, they used to call me "Plank." So watch it buster
Shame: That's right...and the lady in Slang of Ages would be from LeatherWorld not Netherworld...
...I should scroll faster...oral-anal...eeeeyyyyyyeeeeeoouuuuuwww
{submilinabable ethnic slur] multiple orgasms?...I don't think so...
I'm gonna wash out this eMac with lye soap now...
User: Moll | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Bluz, thanks Sugar! However, I'm a one-man woman. I'm with Deck. My heart and body are his exclusively. But I couldn't pick a better bunch of Ladies to be in a harem with. They're the best. :)
User: tones | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: "sick monster"? lol...
"what a shame" - back away from the keyboard, turn off the computer, and get some therapy...
User: What A Shame | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=clinton+grounds++bathroom+sink+near&btnG=Google+Search
Link to Clinton's sink exploits...
User: What a | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Fezo. Bill Clinton was maturbating in the oval office sink in his twisted Monica "non-sex" episonds while Osama was gearing up for 9/11. And the sick monster nixed an offer from the Sudan to extradite Osama because he said he didn't want to deal with the politics of capturing him. If the Sink Emperor Clinton had accepted the Sudan's deal, the twin towers would still be standing and those innocent victims would still be alive. Shame on you.
User: DACW - who needs a worm on the hook? | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Well, we could use more Wormy or ymroW...
fezo: ROFLMAO...but is there an Intended joke in our near future? ...I'm all for poor taste and irreverence, but that requires irony or humor in this venue... does this mean that only liberals are allowed to be offended (I'm not - just making a point)...Mansoor has amazing analytical skills - grad degrees from Harvard & MIT
You were expecting Bush to fly on of those small fighter jets he used during the 'Nam era into flight 93? ...now That would be a movie!...oh wait, wasn't that lile the Harrison Ford Air Force One thing? W wanted to play Cowboy and head back to DC right away, but the Secret Service has this President vs. the Presidency duty thing...Clinton would have continued to play golf with Kenny Boy...
StAl's has made an excellent point about Bill...
They're booed in person and from miles away - a F.U.T.K. shirt from 1500 miles away is brave and knee slapping jokes stuff...The Dixie Chickens I'd say
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/142/technology/Dixie_Chicks_booed_snubbed_at_:.shtml
You're right on one thing - TLM is the best thing out there on Clear Channel, internet radio (wait, Mark Cuban's got that hostage) beside maybe Blues Beach or maybe in the last malls themselves soon...but that's just a taste of what's to come...
In honor StAl and Q, may I present another Overanalysis of EMG - this time from only hearing EMG in lo fi and imagining the cymbals:
"Everything Must Go is an amazing and lively melding of blues, 40s jazz, 50s jazz, roots of rock and roll, 70s R&B into a form that's fresh, new, and sassy. There's more spirit in Everything Must Go that any Steely Dan album
since Katy Lied. Infectious melodies, production, and playing are
juxtaposed against the Apocalyptic notions and a litany of usual Dan
themes: dysfunctional male-female relationships, sex, drugs with quite
a bit if irreverent and sneaky humor. There are plenty or surprises and
spontaneous moments on EMG. "The Last Mall" is a classic altered blues
that swings. "Things I Miss the Most" is a cross between Satchmo and Mr.
Sting longing for an ex in a most peculiar way. "Blues Beach" features a catchy 60s pop sound sensibility glossing over something very, very wrong. "Godwhacker" ranks among the Dan's finest recordings. Walter Becker's guitar and bass playing are strong throughout the album, and his vocalizing on the bluesy and hip "Slang of Ages" is not to be missed. "Green Book" is an
absolutely hypnotizing film noir-sounding tune. "Pixeleen" is snappy,
infectious look at a virtual girl. "Lunch with Gina" offers a yet another
Steely Dan fusion of funk with jazz, but this time it's like a combination
of Glenn Miller and Prince over a hook-filled melody. The title track is a
classic, jazzy send off on leaving it all behind. Two Against Nature
offered very fine recordings, heavy with Miles Davis and Stax R&B,
Everything Must Go is a more satisfying gourmet meal worthy come
Grammy time."
"...for my next trick, I'll make love disappear..."
- Warren Zevon
"...no fart jokes"
- Denny Dias
"...I can't get arrested in this town"
- Neil Finn
User: Lars | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Bluz: very nice play-list. That new Maria Muldaur - is it good? Her last one, 'Richland Woman Blues', was very good.
L
User: fezo | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Mu: spare me the Ari Fleischer "people have to watch what they say" cracker jingoism. While Neil's song certainly wasn't as exploitative as say the President who spent 9/11 hiding on Air Force One selling pics of said hiding out for political donations, I've still always thought it reeked of trivializing unnecessarily what was indeed a very brave act by the people on the plane that went down in PA.
and you'll have to remind me of when the Dixie Chick were booed off a stage by country music fans. It certainly wasn't last week at the Wayne Newton "country" music awards fest in Vegas. They were closer to you than they were to Nevada that evening, appearing by remote from somewhere in Texas.
Back to SD content: the main triple A station in C'ville now has Blues Beach in heavy rotation. Holy shit, that's some good stuff. There's no way that's on the same level of the "Cousin Dupree" first release throwaway.
User: Spring fever | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Beer's thanks for the concert updates Surrey bound..strung up by the ankles"
Molly if i had a harem" i'd harem in the morning" I'd want you in it"
Danno thanks for the story
Rude baby! you name the dive tonight i'm in...crackers for all"
Pixeleen thanks for the ears"
played yesterday
Larry Fuller Trio..Easy Walker.."groove yard" (new)
Horace Silver.."song for my father"
Chris Connor.."senor blues"
Wayne Shorter.."adams apple" february 1966
Junior Wells.."why are people like that"
Yusef Lateef..lp Jazz Mood.."morning"
Eddie Henderson..So What.."prince of darkness" (new)
Joe Henderson.."loose change"
Rickie Lee Jones..It's Like This.."trouble man"
Zack Brock & The Coffee Achievers.."now i know common grounda" (new)
Stephane Grappelli/Mcoy Tyner..One on One.."how high the moon"
Boz Scaggs.."but beautiful" (new)
Stanley Turrentine..lp Blue Hour.."since i fell for you"
John Lee Hooker.."dimples"
Albert King/Otis Rush..Door To Door.."california"
B.B. King & Eric.."riding with the king"
Dizzy Gillespie.."swing low sweet cadillac"
Maria Muldaur..A Woman Alone With The Blues..remembering peggy lee.."some cat's know" (new)
Andy Bey.."tuesdays in chinatown"
Donald Byrd.."night flower"...for teri
Sonny Clark.."come rain or come shine"
Ray Charles..Blues + Jazz
Dr. John.."i know what i've got"
Grant Green.."idle moments"
John Basile.."it was a very good year" (new)
Get your pan ready,
I'm gonna beat your bread.
Lee Green
"I'm Gonna Beat Your Bread"
bluz
User: DACW - slang me | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: fezo: I strongly suggest you write a letter to each of the families of the vicitms/heroes of United Airlines Flight 93 expressing that sentiment....I'm sure they'll be impressed...are you sure you went to UVa? You should look up Monsoor Ijaz, a UVa grad on the internet...he'll set you straight...
Months and months ago I mentioned the Dixie Chicks regarding the music on their latest one - pretty good...and it registered a collective yawn before Natalaie Maines comment...but I'll tell you this - the people who booed them offstage of the Country Music Awards were NOT part of Clear Channel...
...Speaking of Clear Channel...how do you deal with the hype machine? ...and an internet ready paradigm? Saturation bombing....a MOAB... At this time before TvN...stuff was leaking out all over the place...Amazon.com sales were consistently in the top 5 - now they're stuck in the 60s...There was curiosity because TvN was Dan's first studio album in 20 years...This time Warner/Reprise/whoever is meting promo stuff consistently out bit by bit. This keeps the S/N hype ratio consistently low. The Vietnam syndrome - no one can micromanage a chaotic system, especially today. Who buys a car without a test drive? a house unseen? an oven without looking at it, pricing and doing a bit of research, a painting or sculpture without seeing it, taking in the beauty? I say Line 'em up, line 'em all up...
moreover, the stuff's that good... and BB and TLM are by far the lightest of these delicious entrees, and they're still awfully good...
User: fezo | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: I think Neil is just feeling understandable guilt for that god awful "Lets Roll" tune
User: Molly | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: LcPaul, *kisses and many hugs* back to you. I will still send you EMG as soon as it's released. If ya want anything burned drop me a note. If I have it, then I'll be happy to share. ;) As TBC says, it's "One day at a time" for all of us. Today all we really have. The past is gone, and the future may not come to be for us. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers Honeyman.
User: TBC | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: LCpaul - One day at a time brother - Good luck man
User: lcpaul | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Hi everyone
Greetings from the only person from the African continent on this book. In rehab for a while. bbl.
Kisses to Molly and greetings to beerbarian.
Love LCP
User: RudeWaitress | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Damn..Damn..Damn...I didn't realise the chat was down and out..closed for repairs..condemned...and we've been banned from the bluebook chat? I smell anarchy...no, wait..thats todays special I smell..Cyn's favourite.."Moron a la Mode".
psssst..lets just invade the bluechat..and God forbid we have fun and fill it with mirth and not talk about the "boys".
Do ya'll think they'd mind ??
I'll look for another dance hall for this WingDing...Maybe in the Dug-out that my dad built...We'll have a summer smoker underground!
look here for directions.....later
User: Ronald Reagan | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: I don't either:
http://www.musicbox-online.com/ny-pass.html
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: I don't think I remember Neil Young briefly endorsing Reagan. I'm just
glad he doesn't suck up to leaders who rely on politcal insiders in order to have brainless people think of him as God.
Clas-(with apologies to Lady B. for butting in.) Ricky Lawson was a member of the Yellowjackets in the 80's but he then left to join Lionel
Richie for one of his tours. He has never returned to the band. I believe two other drummers have preceded him since. The Yellowjackets, I
believe, now sell their records on their own website after being dropped by their record company.
User: jjeff-two teas, both with sugar, please. | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Neil Young was never political?!? Keep on rockin'
Tones you're sharper than a microtome knife.
User: RudeWaitress | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message:
Keyshawn ..(by the way..whats up with that stupid name?) I just hope you aren't too serious 'bout sticking around here and insulting some of the finer folk on this board...Like eating at the SD Roadkill Cafe and Carwash..it could prove hazardous to yer health and mental well-being (oops, you've already proven that yer mental well being has been compromised). We eat punks like you for breakfast at the cafe...its the "all filler and no substance" part of our extensive menu.
Saturday night in Chat...hosting a going away party for our fav Bad girl..Soooo...Break out your hats and hooters..rev up yer motor scooters..!
oh and yeah...You're not invited, Keyshawn (she says whilst smackin' her gum and retrievin' pencil outta her hair )
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Best Hair Bands -- Midnight Oil, Smashing Pumpkins, Sinead
User: This note's for you... | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Neil Young's Political Rebirth: 'Will I be deported?'
The one-time counter-culture idol turned Reaganite is fed up with
George Bush. And his outspoken views might just get him in trouble.
By Adam Sweeting/The Guardian
It is difficult to find supportive things to say about George Bush unless
your construction company is rebuilding Iraq, but it would be a droll irony
if it was him we have to thank for Neil Young's latest creative renaissance.
"The US is like a baby with a bomb," he barks, his eyes blazing with the
famous stare. "The reaction to France that the administration allowed to
happen is so immature. These people have their own opinion - they're French!
They're not fuckin' Americans, they're French ! Vive la difference, hello?
And this big deal about Bush landing on an aircraft carrier? Talk about a
six-year-old kid with a Tonka toy - we got it here."
After a string of less-than-awesome albums, it is excellent news that Young
has found himself a new itch to scratch. He has never been a political
songwriter, unless you count his 1970 hit single Ohio, but the songs from
his new album, Greendale, take a critical squint at Bush's America through a
small-town keyhole.
He tells his story about the fictional town of Greendale through a variety
of characters, including three generations of the Green family, but the
dominant themes reflect Young's personal concerns. He seems especially fired
up by issues of media intrusion, ecological conservation and illegal
surveillance by government agencies.
"I think the world today, at least the US and to some extent Britain now, is
experiencing this kind of Big Brother thing," he ruminates, the day after
completing his string of solo performances at London's Hammersmith Apollo.
Close up, the Toronto-born Young looks lined and weatherbeaten, but his
mental focus is sharp.
"It's not what we thought we were gonna be doing, a lot of the people's
civil rights have been compromised, and we don't know what's going on. If I
keep speaking my mind, will I be deported? I'm not very happy with the state
of things. Music is being banned, and we have people in control of the radio
stations who are the same people in control of the concert halls. They're
also tied into the [US] administration and are sponsoring pro-war rallies.
It's not good. It's interesting ."
He is referring to the recent Dixie Chicks furore, sparked by singer Natalie
Maines's comment that the band was "ashamed the president of the United
States is from Texas". The Chicks suddenly found that their records weren't
being played on chains of radio stations.
"The real point was, somebody asked the president what he thought and he
said, 'It's America, it's a free country, they can have their opinion, but
there's nothing we can do about it if nobody goes to their shows or plays
their songs,'" Young growls. "But he's so out of touch that his advisers
haven't told him that their record sales spiked upwards when that happened,
and while the airplay went down the sales went up and their concerts all
sold out."
In the mid-1980s, Young, the professional contrarian, endorsed Ronald
Reagan. Today, he sounds more like the songwriter who exploded to stardom
with counter-culture darlings Crosby, Stills and Nash. "It's a robust time,
probably the most fertile time for the underground and for revolution since
Nixon. I'm not talking about political overthrow; I'm talking about just
general cultural revolution. Bush has polarised the country and is creating
this breeding ground for an opposition. In the next couple of months,
they'll probably make it unpatriotic to be Democrat. It's pretty crazy."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,960988,00.html
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Irreverent enough for ya Reverend Jim?
Hehehe...
User: Barney | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: "Blues Beach" sounds very similar to one of the songs from my show.
Can you say Copywright Infringement!
"Thou shalt not plagiarize The Barney Show" - Reverend Jim.
User: Joe Cartwright | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Saddle up the horses Little Joe, it's gonna be a while.
Those Steely Dan boys are still tryin' to teach Hop Sing and the Sheriff
how to play "Pixeleen" on the banjo.
User: Peroxide Blonde | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: I love this site because it's the same color as my hair.
User: Cousin It | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: I've been thinking of starting a hair band myself...
User: Moll | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: BB, Bass..yep I have had beer spilled on me on more than one occasion. ;) It's one of the many reasons I don't go to bars often. lol
Clas, the lady who owns the Tea Room is very sweet. A bit eccentric but nice. She keeps trying to fatten me up and play matchmaker...I know you and Hoops don't get along, but that is between you guys. I like you both.You
Wild Bill, I've found a lovely ivory wedding gown. Off the shoulder, it will show off my newly aquired tan. My Auntie in Louisianna has graceously offered us the use of her garden. I want an outdoor ceremony...the wisteria wafting through the air. We can have reception there as well. The children can run about and play. Of course there will be Zydeco music playing at the reception. ;-)
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Clas: It means exactly what it says. It's only rock and roll. Not to be taken too seriously. Not to be over scrutinized. Not to hero worship.
StAl
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message:
C & W: Quite.
db: I'm with you on that brother!
User: Beerberian homeward bound - nearly | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: BEER & SPILL omg Sacrilege !!!!!! Yeah and Like Football's ONLY a Game ?
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: somethings are more important than cars & girls.
beer & spill not a concept im familiar with is it new ?
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Bassinstinct -
It's not ONLY, strike that word.
"...it's rock and roll baby..."
That's bloody serious shit.
---
Molly - a Russian Tea House you say? I'm not surprised.
A Russian Tea House with the Tsar and the Court Jesters.
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message:
C: The very fact that you have to ask speaks volumes.
User: Molly | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: I sometimes visit a coffee house in a nearby city. It's a lively place. One may see a few Elderly and/or Middle-aged people buying their lunch or dinner there. A few Business people might wander in for a cup of coffee..There are always quite a few musicians, poets and students usually hanging about. The Coffe House has music and poetry readings from time to time. From the traffic and unsavory looking characters, I'd guess that someone is dealing there as well. My favorite Waitress is a little beauty that has more body art than most sailors. She also has her nose, eyelid and lip pierced. Jan and the others always make me feel welcome. I can be attired in a severe blue business suit & heels, in my "arty" clothes, or just raggedy jeans, and I am accepted nonetheless. I love it because of it's "anything goes" carnival type ambiance.
I also frequent a Russian Tearoom in another city. The atmosphere is much more formal. The guests there are very different than the folks visiting the coffee house. Very nice, but more subdued. Mainly you see older people and students there. I enjoy the Tearoom's polite amenities.
Banyan Trees's chat room reminds me of my Coffee house in many ways. I've met some wonderful people there; as well as a few lunatics and a few nasty individuals. It's a bit like going to a bar,you get all kinds at St Alphonso's. Except one spills beer on my shoes or blows smoke in my face. We flirt, laugh and talk about everything, from our kids, our gardens etc.. and all sorts of music. Occasionally we even talk about Steely Dan! The love we have for music,( Steely Dan's in particular) is the common bond we share.
I can appreciate than Banyan Trees chat is not everyone's sort of place. We are hardly ever serious. My life demands enough solemnity. I don't want to be serious in my leisure time.
Hoops' chat venue and message board are intended to be more stylized. It's like the Tea room I visit. Sometimes it's nice to go there. I know I will always enjoy chatting with Hoops about Steely Dan. He is very knowledgeable. I usually learn something whenever he and I chat. Yet, I will miss the conviviality of Banyan Trees. M
User: FYI Gina and others | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: FYI the Confessions Taxi player is now streaming Last Mall and Blues beach, whole songs. It says more tracks will be added later
http://www.repriserecords.com/steelydan/player/
look for the "play Songs" link in lower left of taxi window
User: snakehips | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message:
Randy - LOL! (What About Bob)...that's one of my favorite lines ever from a movie!
Tones darling - see...I told you to rent that movie. Move it up on your "Movies I must see" list ;-) You'll love it...and btw, YOU ROCK!
Last, and certainly least, Keyshawn - In the words of the sometimes irrevrent, but always hilarious Bill - BITE ME!
User: C | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: StAl - "...it's only rock and roll baby..."
What the hell is that supposed to mean?
User: lp | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: i'm with st al - i haven't laughed out loud at the yellow in a while - loved the ozzy reference too
so, boz scaggs and rikki releases in the same year - this is a good year for us 70's kids, isn't it?
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Pepperoni and black olives - extra thick crust
Tomorrow it's Steamer Heaven!
I've got Gadd on line 3
User: G. | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Just listened to Last Mall because that seems to be the only thing i know how to get my ears on :-) and it did bring some relief on this hectic day. EMG is something to really look forward to, given the outbursts of excitement here and there in yellow and blue!
Seems to me this time around it's different compared to when they released 2VN. Looking forward to the new release of Rickie Lee Jones as well.
Couldn't be better ...
Banyan Tree Howdy to All GB-folk Bow,
G.
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Lady B - Ricky Lawson? Is he playing with Yellow Jackets?
Tones - Ha!
Lars - expensive pizza boy, that Katz dude.
User: bwaySteve | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: I have been somewhat removed from Dandom the past several months and my visits to the always enjoyable Sunday chat have been brief and few.I knew about the Decade compillation and was excited at the possibility of being a part of it but had no idea how to get a submission to the " assembler".I would love to do my bare bones solo acoustic adaptations of Bad Sneakers or maybe Bodhisattva .I do a couple others from the Decade CD too.Please drop me a line as to whom and where I may do so, saving me hours of catching up on yellow posts which for all their informative value tend to stir me up. I think all the military in Manhattan is getting to me.Despite the numerous adorable young cammo-clad beauties brandishing M-16s protecting my way through Penn Station and contributing to my sense of well being, the Hazmat trucks ( large and small) fortified Jeeps and other signs of " Orange Consciousness" in Times Square are making me neurotic, sapping my creativity and are manifesting in various forms of avoidance and procrastination.
Thanks in advance for pointing me in the right direction and while I'm here, a warm hello to all the bowling nite regulars who gather on Sundays to celebrate diversity in music and the dread of dealing with another Monday.
Please don't unleash the Decade compillation without giving me a shot at a submission.
I wonder how much Virgin is gonna soak me for Everything Must Go ? They have some nerve over there.
Regards,
bwaySteve
User: Boston Rag | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message:
Come to think of it. Donald does look just like Leonard Nimoy on the cover of this month's Downbeat.
Bill - Don't make me set my phaser to stun!
Mark in Boston
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Bill: I laughed out loud at the throwing bats post a few days/weeks ago. I thought it was damn funny, as I do so many of your posts and I'm a SERIOUS STEELY DAN FAN!
Oh wait! I mean, I'm a Steely Dan fan who thinks that is seriously funny! Whew, wouldn't want to be confused with any of them tight-assed Steely Dan fans.
StAL
PS. I also want to go on record that I'm not lumping all Bluebook regulars into this group. Just the ones -- you know -- the ones (very few) who are a little cuckoo..
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Keyshawn: You really outta remove that board shoved up your ass. There is no such thing as a "Serious Steely Dan Fan." Only fans who take Steely Dan way too serious, and those, like us, that understand it's only rock and roll baby...
Oh, and those little quips at the end of Tones' posts are (usually) funny. Problem is you obviously have no sense of humor.
The ones that scare Walter and Donald are you types. This I know. Bill is completely harmless. But I'll bet you thought Sadamm was gonna bomb your house too, so it (meaning you) is a lost cause...
You know, for 8 years I've been dealing with assholes like you. I put up with you because I practice what I preach. This is an open forum and open forums often mean listening to people you don't agree with. Yet, the one thing that galls me is you pussies always hide behind the very anonymity I PROVIDE YOU. You will not face me/us "like a man" because you know you're wrong. You know the tactics you use are chickenshit and you know that I'd shut you down in a new york minute if you had to face me directly. Everyone on this message board knows how to get a hold of me. Shit, you could even find my home address if you tried hard enough.
Point is, I'm not afraid. Why are you? You're welcome to email me directly to discuss your beef. I'm a very reasonable person. However, if you continue to post nothing but trash talk and personal slams, I'm going to ban you from this guestbook. You may be thinking "Big Fat Hairy Deal StAl -- go ahead and ban me!" That's fine, I'm just letting you know up front I'm not going to tolerate it any longer. You're not playing fair so why should I?
StAl
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Uh, Keyshawn...
I never said I would throw beer cans at Walter during the Jones Beach
show. I'm not saying that I won't, I'm just saying that I never said it.
What I said was that I might throw popcorn at Walter during the show.
Oh, and I might toss a few rubber bats on stage like they do at the
Ozzie Ozbourne shows that's all. What's wrong with that?
********* NOTE **********
The preceding was an example of a Steely Dan fan joking around and
having fun. Don't try this at home Reverend Jim.
User: ymroW | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: top ten reasons Don and Walt are not Captian Kirk and Spock
11) more Roland Kirk than Captian
10) this ain't no Enterprise,it's an Institution
9) trecky / dan ites
8) tranny / deck ites no siree
7) Spock would never have logically plotted a Cleveland amphibious invasion
6) dime dancing don't lead to altar calls
5) in a galaxy far away... or was that... in a recluse studio 70's LA
4) these are the voyages of the starred ship Dan delize
3) it's mission to seek out new musical forms
2) "to boldly go" where Miles and Stax had only hinted at
1) or was that to "rescue a dreary sunday"
User: keyshaw who ric shaw boy! | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: go back to light jazz and the boys.
User: button of the week: | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Will share dark thoughts for food.
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Even if it were true that Aja would rather see the Steely Damned instead of the "real thing," (and of course its not) so what? Her musical opinions are as valid as Greil Marcus, Robert Hilburn, Dave Marsh or you. Why try to insult her? There's no pleasure to be gained by trying to be mean.
User: t | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Yes "Key," I'm saying you're WRONG, and I don't have to be God to know it...
and here's your one liner:
ya loser.
User: t | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Speaking of other music (hi Aj!), there's an article in the lastest Downbeat with Don and Walt on the cover about Arto Lindsey, aho I've raved about a few times here in the past. I *absolutely* recommend checking out his music, especially his last three albums: Noon Chill, Prize, and Invoke. Great stuff, and well recorded... If I had to sum it up I'd call it New York/Brazillian/Porteguese/ art-"rock" with casually profound lyrics... very cool...
steviedan - I know next to nothing about classical, though I finally saw Amadeus a few months ago... One piece I have been drawn to is Satie's Les Trois GymnopTdies... ever since I was a kid and heard it on a commercial I've loved it. It has a simple forlorn quality to the melody that really moves me. I love that piece. That and the theme to the Young and the Restless...
(hmmm.. will they know I'm kidding if I don't type anything...?)
User: Keyshawn | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: tones- So you're are saying that my opinion is wrong? Who made you God? You and Bill make a good team...remember "shit sticks together"
Oh yeah...your little tongue and cheek one liners to end all of your posts aren't the least bit funny.
tones: SLANG ME!
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: i love steely dan & have a life.
explain that bill.
User: t | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Keyshawn - you agreeing with that statement makes you wrong *and* asinine (as well as over-rated as a wide receiver), as if you or anyone else is qualified to know what a "steely dan fan" is... And it really just shows you are incredibly narrow-minded, and most *real* steely dan fans aren't. That's not opinion, that's fact.
go back to your glee-club...
"dog"
personally, I have nothing against the blue, but I'd rather share an elevator with Bill than with some of the weenies (like Keyshawn) over there...
Of course, I'm hoping it's only a 2 story building...
User: Weber | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: And that last post is from someone who would rather go see The Steely Damned then the real thing. Who should get a life aja?
User: Aja............................not@work | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Actually, the GB is for people who like Steely Dan, lots of OTHER music (*gasp* there's other music out there?), and have LIVES to go with it all.
Aja
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Bill: depends whose cheek it is.
Jimbo: Heard Annika outdrove her male partners...these wimps on the course today with their manicured courses, their 6 ft long Killer Bee drivers, their massive head perimeter weighted irons...Hell, I swing the club like it was a f**ing axe and can still drive nearly 300 yds with today's technology and I play twice a year whether I need it or not... Accuracy off the tee, mental toughness, good mechanics, and within 100 yds of the hole are 90% of golf...they've forgotten what it's like to play with teeny tiny head blade clubs with wooden or straight steel shafts, lo tech golf balls that flew like a rock...I'd like to see these wusses line-drive a slice around a tree bounce is 20 yds in front of the green and roll it on like Lee Trevino 30 years ago or Jack Nicklaus drawing a 3 wood 270 yeds to the green with persimmon rather than a titanium alloy...the next US Open should be played on the Tin Cup course in west Texas in a 35 mph wind in a duststorm while former Dallas Cowboys randomly tackle golfers on the tees...now THAT's golf!!!!!
User: Keyshawn | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: tones (waaaaaz up dog!) I happen to agree with who ever said that "you can't be a Steely Dan fan if you don't like the Last Mall". Hey, we all have opinions...right? I agree 100% with this statement. As far as Bill goes..oh please. This is the same guy who says he's going to throw beer cans at Walter Becker whiles he's on stage at Jones Beach. Now, since he's been booted from the Blue Book, Bill is getting all philosophical about the music of Steely Dan. In all reality, fans like Bill are the ones scaring Donald and Walter half to death.
Let's face it, the Bluebook is for serious Steely Dan fans (ask St.Al) and the yellow book is for the casual fan who would rather be discussing what they ate for breakfast.
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User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Latest update from the OED...
New definition for ''MOAB''
it now simply states ''see godwhacker'' steely dan emg.
User: tones | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Bill - I don't know about the "reverend Jim" stuff, but generally I agree with you. The asinine comments like "if you don't like 'The Last Mall' then you can't be a Steely Dan fan" bring the whole conversation down to the level of N*Sync worship. That stuff gets old *real* fast.
Unless we're talking about Clas not liking "Aja" of course...
toungue firmly in cheek...
t
User: Randy | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message:
"Some people say Jesus / that's the ace in the hole / but I never met the man / so I don't really know..." - Paul Simon, 'Ace In The Hole'
Randy
NIGHTFLY**@aol.com
User: Randy | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message:
"There are two types of people in this world: those who like Neil Diamond, and those who don't." - Bill Murray, 'What About Bob?'
Randy
NIGHTFLY**@aol.com
User: LadyBayside | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Hi, blah, blah, blah...
Frantically trying to get everything accomplished before I leave for Florida day after tomorrow. I just had someone give me a concert listing for the Planting Field Arboretum in Oyster Bay, Long Island, and to my surprise, the YELLOWJACKETS are playing there in either July or August. Tickets will be available on Ticketbastard (but are fairly reasonable at 45/35/20, I think). I know Ricky Lawson drummed with them...and I got to see them last year at JazzFest...they were wonderful.
Tangentially Dan...
I worship, but I'm not Catholic about it.
LadyB
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Okay it's time to vent a little bit...
After my little excursion over to Bluebook land I've come to the
conclusion that there are basically two types of SD fans.
There are those who think that SD is a musical act who've made an
important contribution to popular music, and there are those who think that Steely Dan is a religion and that the founders should be viewed
with total reverence like some kind of gods on earth.
For those who subscribe to the "Steely Dan is a religion" philosophy,
there is no room for irreverence when discussing the work of Donald Fagen
and Walter Becker. There is also no room for the discussion of anything
else but Steely Dan. Steely Dan is to be our reason for being and we must
worship the Steely Dan scriptures without deviation. Of course most
reasonable people would discard this philosophy as the synergy of cult
philosophy and art, but not the faithful followers of Reverend Jim of
The Bluebook. To them, everything in the universe revolves around this
band. Donald and Walter are Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock and thier followers
are nothing more than Trekkies with thier notebooks at the ready waiting
for the words of enlightenment to flow from the lips of the founders.
Rediculous isn't it? Of course it is...
Anyone who has listened to the music of Steely Dan for any legnth of time
knows that Donald and Walter have a tremendous sense of humour. Even the
song "The Last Mall" is basically tongue-in-cheek. Think about it, isn't
there a fair amount of irony between the music and the lyrics of this
song? I mean shopping isn't necessarily something to get worked up about
is it? But the song would seem to indicate so. That's funny in my opinion.
Not so to Reverend Jim. To Reverend Jim it means something deeper. It's
something holy. It's something not to be fucked with. Got it?
Steely Dan fans are some of the most intelligent fans in modern music
and it's for this reason that the subjects on this board don't always
seem to be about Steely Dan directly. This board seems to be more about
the general thought processes of the fandom in general, and by discussing
other subjects the contributors are displaying thier multi-dimensional
selves. That's what makes this place interesting. That's what makes
Steely Dan interesting.
Let's try to remember that Steely Dan is a musical act and not a religion.
It's a musical act that has no doubt made a very important contribution
to the art of music in general and it deserves to be viewed that way,
but let's not get so carried away in our love for it that we lose
ourselves in the process.
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Word to Vijay Singh, Nick Price and Charles Barkley: ANNIKA! ANNIKA! ANNIKA!
Just saw the third confessionals. Lizzie does make a lot of sense in terms of the statement of musical influence. You think she checks out this GB?
User: re Katz | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Quite the contrary, Lars.
User: Lars | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Gary Katz please come back - everything is forgiven! It's now clear to me (and most of the rest of Dandom) that ordering pizzas has an huge impact on the soundscape.
L
User: Hank Silvers | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Folks, David Moore's Clockdrive World is full of music that sounds good anytime, but especially (IMO) cruising down the highway on a warm summer day. There are going to be a lot of those this summer, so prepare yourself for them. A link to his site is above.
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: W1P? - good.
User: Clas | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Fla David - look, I am not doing this for ME. If you want to send me another song from Clock Drive - that would be great.
You'll find my address at the link above.
---
Beerb - nah, well, fair enough. But something vital got lost in the translation.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Beer: I thought babelfish demanded Pay for services...lol... Until I heard Snowbound and Book of Liars when listening to those albums for the first time...I was thinking "resale!" ...but I grew to love 'em...and the last half of Kama is immediately hooky...
not the case for EMG which seems a Steely Dan continuation of a path forged in the Nightfly, except they go back to the 40s to snag musical ideas for their latest alloy...and it's an exit or two down that road...
I had a dream last night and heard Things I Miss the Most in High Fidelity...whoopeeee!
LEVEL 4 WARNING: Mr. Sting has a New One coming out in September...a single in June or July...no more details...too much to do...guess he needs a new Jaguar or castle...
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: C -- I'm in discussion with my band "Tortfeasor" http://hometown.aol.com/wch1ispink/tortfeasor.html -- the candidates are Any Major Dude, Pearl of the Quarter, Haitain Divorce or Don't Take Me Alive. I promise you that I will make a decision soon -- this is not languishing on the back burner.
User: Beerssensen | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Lars is it not beautiful to know that the lean doctor am addressing all to adjust when the am counting Katz role in output and tell for yourself that you have fault when yous is disappointment them fresh Steely Dan ltarna? The is clearly that Katz had one finger with in ljudbilden. There is no chance that skivorna was bending lta different when Kamakiriad and 11 Tracks of whack arrived ? Album as them others was generating.
WTF?
User: WJAZ | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: just ordered "Clockdrive World"...should have a long time ago...
User: Floridavid | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Clas, Sorry I didn't give you an answer. here's the deal. On the first 3 GB compilation CD's I contributed songs from my "Clockdrive World" CD.
My goal was to see If it would spark others to Purchase the Whole Album of Originals.After all this is my business, not my Hobby. I have other hobbies. This Spark didn't really happen and that's ok...it's in it's second pressing and has done very well for me. As it continues to Sell on my Gigs and on my website as well as CDstreet.Com
If you would like to use another song from that CD you're welcome to. I'm currently in the process of writing and recording a new CD of Originals as well as a "Live At the Pierside" CD of Peoples favorite Covers I do at my weekly Gigs at Ft. Myers beach.The Live CD is actually the first of a series I'm producing for other performers who work at "The Pierside" This all takes a lot of time because I do work as a Solo. The Logistics are Crazy.
Anyway, Let me know If you're short on songs and need some Filler Material...I'll pick another from "Clockdrive World" for you.
Thanks, David
User: jon | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Thanks SACW and angel for Katz references. And also to qwerty for Lukather amplification--my bad. For some reason I thought he showed on a Fagen outing at one juncture.
User