User: steviedan | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: after this, i'm REALLY gone for a few days...
!!!!!PRESENT!!!!!
but only momentarily...
jimbo, you know i believe they all do. it's really a lovely concise little solo, although it dovetails in the middle so it's not one take. i had to compromise one note that occurred on the same beat as another at the other end of the neck. anyway, fleetwood mac seems to remain omnipresent due in large part to "the dance", which i just happened to listen to earlier this week. overall, a nice live representation. one of my favorite parts: lindsey starts some dr phil-style self confessional about "inner demons" and mick interrupts him with this perfect little catskills comedy drum lick that roughly translates into "don't spoil our party, you whiner YOU"...
st al, that's weird. i've heard that moe does a live version of "bodhi" but i've never seen or heard it...
one additional rollee: IO/innocent one...
did she and kd ever hook up ? they could have KIDS by now !
... on to the dunes...
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: FloriDavid: A Georgia peach martini, a bone and a juke box with the Dan in it. Perfection and grace personified. Dammit I envy you.
Aus
User: Floridavid | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Roll call? Floridavid reporting in and enjoying my new Friday Night Hobby. After the Gig I slip over to a Funky little Beach Bar called the "Surf Club". No live music but, A great CD juke box with Plenty of Steely Dan and the Best Peach Martinis made with Fresh Georgia peaches. A couple of those babys and bone and yours truly has finished off a good night at the Beach. Cheers
User: moray eel | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Here.
And Frozen Rainmaker used to post here during the "Golden Age". He still pops up once in a blue moon.
m.e.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Present and accounted for, thanks for asking, annon. :-)
Wormy! OMG, you lost your virginity!!!!! Worth it, right?
What about that open to the title cut. My little one goes, "hey mom, that sounds like the end of something". How perceptive can you get.... ;-)
Mu: Yes, the horns at the top, return in the bridge. I noticed it, too. So good to hear it on a decent set of speakers. Ahhhh.... It's been running through my head all afternoon, even though I have been listening to Kamikiriad all day in the car. Definite similarities there, btw.
Ed: Paso Robles, I'm in. See ya there.
Might do the Carlsbad thing again this year. Damned on the 6/21, I believe. (though their webpage says Friday the 20th, I believe it is the 21st). We had a great time there last year, and it's FREE! Nice warm up to the tour.
Some more from Downbeat Magazine (glad I bought it, because I have hardly scratched the surface of the article, with my snipets.). :-)
Comments on the song Pixeleen:
One of the album's more deliciously devious treats is "Pixeleen", a song about virtual sex, among other things, which has an infectious three-sylable hook reminiscent of standards like "Tangerine" and Cole Porter's "I Love You". This track also has the album's loosest ending, with the band seeming to dissolve rather than end in any declarative way. "Bill Charlap played piano on that track," Becker says, "and as I recall, he played something surprising."
"It freaked everyone out so much, they stopped playing," Fagen says. Becker finishes the story: "[Bill] sort of dictated an ending, and everyone just sat with it. For most of our charts, there's no charted ending. They're intended to fade out in some way. Every once in awhile, we get something that falls apart in a nice way. That was one of them."
They called the jazz pianist in for late breaking additions to the recording project when regular pianist Ted Baker couldn't make it. Fagen says that Charlap was "overqualified. We went to see him play once, and he said, 'If you guys ever need a piano player, I'd love to play with you.' So there we were, months later."
I (The interviewer, I assume) played Charlap the ending in question over the phone. At the tail end of the coda, he plays a lavish upward keyboard flourish that seems to disarm the rhythm section. After hearing it, Charlap says, "the Kramer etudes," and plays the exercise on his piano. "I remember that now. I'm glad I had that in my fingers at the time."
User: oleander | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Mostly here... slow Saturday, then?
... and don't forget Edd.
User: Luckless Pedestrian | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: present!
omg blacksgirl, i had forgotten about that gig
sociable hermit?
green earring?
anyone heard from chere?
hiked a mountain with my 4 year old, noticed all the slugs, snakes and moss along the way - it's good for her to be three feet tall, you notice more stuff that way
nite
User: Moll | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Yeah, I'm still about......thanks for mentioning me. ;) I'm eagerly awaiting the release date. I'm going to Ohio concert, and most likely the Chicago one too. Chili Peppers are supposed to be touring this Summer as well... I can't wait to see them again.
Hurt
I hurt myself today
to see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
the only thing that's real
the needle tears a hole
the old familiar sting
try to kill it all away
but I remember everything
what have I become?
my sweetest friend
everyone I know
goes away in the end
you could have it all
my empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
I wear my crown of shit
on my liar's chair
full of broken thoughts
I cannot repair
beneath the stain of time
the feeling disappears
you are someone else
I am still right here
what have I become?
my sweetest friend
everyone I know
goes away in the end
you could have it all
my empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
if I could start again
a million miles away
I would keep myself
I would find a way
Nine Inch Nails ( I like Johnny's rendition best)
User: wt | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: St Al - jam bands have it over those who hold it too tight to the cloth
love hearing playful covers
where's your fav download sites, I see minimal dan in the areas I scan
improv bands, todays lot could learn a little from the past
amazing were some bands like floyd, zep, G Dead, crim that went to serious improv in their earlier years - then held tightly later (oh well)
Zep especially - those old rockabilly WLL medleys were out there
then there are bands like 70's Genesis where the keyboard player splendid Tony Banks never strays a note, impressive but liven it up a little
DR Wu - you know in these southern states we could be arrested for BB,TLM,EMG rotations ;-) met cha at the border
Liz Phair's flaming lips - don't get me started, ouch!
User: oh maaaaaaaaan... | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: I *love* Liz Phair's flaming lips!
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: The site I posted a few days ago which catalogs song covers intrigued me. After I saw that String Cheese Incident covered Bodhisattva I had to find a copy. From what I can see they've only played it once -- Stubbs Barbecue in Austin 5/16/1998. I found the complete show available for download so I grabbed it and uploaded the song to the music page in case anyone is interested.
Some will probably find it blasphemous. 4 1/2 minutes of Bodhisattva into a 5 minute jam. I dig it. I only wish Steely Dan would stretch out like this once in a while. Check it out!
http://www.banyantrees.net/music/ <-- scroll to the bottom of the page
Oh... HERE!
StAl
User: DACW/¦/DrMu | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Here. I'm such a slut...wallowing in a pool of margaRITAs...just cycled through EMG, BB, TLM and back to EMG...
Aussie, Tell YGK to watch that I10-12 fork or he's Texas bound!...Yeeeehaaahhh!!
User: wt | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: aussie
sorry if you get this try here
wt
User: wormy | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: aussie
Malcolm is here in new orleans right now???
damn, it's 8pm and I just got the news
email me his cell phone # at the following addy (home)
he probably tried to catch me on my work or now defunct cell phone,
damn
angel - blew my dan celebicy on BB, EMG, and TLM on the confessions page
so I am confessing here,
I SWEAR, I AM A GOOD LITTLE SCHOOL BOY ;-)
wt
User: ed beatty | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Hey,
I'm always somewhere out here or there.
Who's going to Paso Robles?
Can I get a show of hands?
Ed
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Here but busy (Liz Phair/Flaming Lips tonight, maaaaaaaaaaan)
User: button of the week: | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Have you hugged your gay vegetarian leftist druggie protester today?
User: family tree | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Hank Silvers
lisa
Geena
Mock Turtle
Razor Boy
Charmer
Peg
Bob Tedde
anymajordude
Lester the Nightfly
User: Crawler | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Just streamed EMG for the first time. WOW.
I'd say more but I have to pick my jaw up off the floor...
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: space after webdrone = anons
User: keep 'em comin... | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Bad Sneakers
Joe Murtha
ICPaul
ti bon ange
BlacksGirl(!)
webdrone
.
aa
weber/Truth/Keyshawn
chips
rogue anon
DACW
Ward
June
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Nice list Roll Call. Registering my: Present!
Two quick queries. First, what ever happened to Elle? Second, albeit a very brief tenure on Beemer's GB, shouldn't Blacksgirl be somewhere on that roll call list?
Aus
ps. Wormy: I just got a call this aftrenoon from Malcolm down in New Orleans....are you doing your downhome thing again? Lord knows I've longed to see that look of derision again as I mercilessly wolf down craw dads and powdered bread. You should give some serious thought to making it for the Jones Beach gig this coming August. Let me know if we can accomodate you.
User: Bad sneakers | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Thanks
User: Roll call! | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Chere
Danslut(tm)
rumblestrip
Cara Mia
Midnight Cruiser
Blaise
snakehips
steviedan
angel
Aja
Gina
luckless pedestrian
cyn
Jim #
Steveedan
wormy
aussie
ygk
Lady Bayside
St. Al
floridavid
oleander
Q
JWMalibu
joker
kinky
dano
W1P
Howard
db
Beerberian
Duncan
Jimbo
Lisa G
Daddy G
Roy Scam
Altamira
Miz Ducky
Hutch
KD
Clas
fezo
negative girl
thirdworldman
z
Dr. Warren Kruger
Edd Beatty
Sociable Hermit
Ruby Baby
Schwinn
El Supremo
Elle
Hank Silvers
Not My Nancy
Mr. Chow
Hoops
qwerty
Corpsy V
Lars
Bill
Molly
Jenny
jjeff
Dr. Mu
timg
Good King Richard
moray eel
JustKatyDanFan
The Stranger
suedave
Steven in CT
tones
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Good news! The DVD-A of Kamakiriad will have those two music videos out:
Tommorrow's Girls and Snowbound. If you never seen them before, they are terrific videos, especially Snowbound. Also, one of the most weirdest to date.
Stevie- Nice to know that kids look beyond their "patriotism" to still
enjoy good music. Do they know that "Landslide" was a Fleetwood Mac tune
before the Chicks made that sweet remake?
Even Lou Dobb's Moneyline reports a military officer surprised that there are no WMD's yet. Duh! Lou, stick to reporting financial news. Why do you think the program is called Lou Dobbs Moneyline? Give me Louis Rukeyser.
10 more days till EMG!
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Bill- Enough about Iraq already.
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Bill- Enough about Iraq already.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: Walt Weiskopf is DA MAN!!!
Anybody notice yet how he integrates the BRIDGGE of EMG into that Intro? I wonder who's idea was that? Donald, Walter, Weiskopf? Pure genius!
Telling the story from the perspective and feelings of a fallen exec really works, the little touches of a hedonistic, almost rock star-like life...and from being close to the Enron action - that's exactly what they thought...they were plotting and activtely stealing from the 401K pool as they slid on down the (corporate) ladder ...there's a few suites in Huntsville with their names on them
Does anyone get lucky twice? wouldn't it be nice?
User: Luckless Pedestrian at home, with organic coffee | Month: 4 | Day: 31
Message: i have not heard from chere in a long time either but will try to email her
aus? david? anyone else know?
User: stevie-vu | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: as i was typing, i was listening to a cd of the 10th annual new orleans jazz and heritage festival... and as i finished the post a solo piano piece was beginning and i'm thinking, "that's LOVELY"... "who IS this ?"...
by GAWD, it was charles mingus on the piano !
textbook synchronicity !
User: stevieshots&shouts | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: howard: "...i haven't heard much mingus" howard, you should seek to change that, bro'...
beerberian: thanx SO much for the gabriel line-up run-down...
downbeat repreSENTin'... hollah...
tones: as i trust, the sole culturally elevated one to render an opinion on classical music...
bluz: those are some slammin' jointz on those playlists you post...
dixie chicks... over the past week i have been teaching the mandolin solo from "landslide" as a sort of "intro to mandolin 101" to my interested guitar and violin (it's tuned the same) students. no one's "patriotism" has caused them to boycott the experience...
razorboy: i KNOW ! the air and water just KEEP getting cleaner and cleaner ! naive idiots, aren't they ?
hilary-himmler: i'm sorry...
ole and good king delurking. a GOOD thing...
saw todd rundgren on a mountain stage program playing "hello it's me" solo, vocal/piano. seriously, he barely could get through all the changes and modulations. he had to start over like three times ! yet... still genius...
i don't know about you guys but i'm headin' for the beach...
User: DanAudioCrackWhore | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: "...our self-esteem is shattered..."
Man, they crack me up
How about that BRIDGE?
...wouldn't it be nice...
User: Come out, come out wherever you are... | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.
Dick Cheney, August 26, 2002
We know for a fact that there are weapons there.
Ari Fleischer, January 9, 2003
We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction.
Colin Powell, February 5, 2003
We know where they are. They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad.
Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003
Meanwhile, the media keeps telling us what a godly Christian Bush is, how he's an authentic cowboy and rancher, how he has the interests of the little people in mind as he borrows money to pay for tax cuts for the super-rich. At least he's not getting a BJ.
http://billmon.org.v.sabren.com/archives/000172.html
User: Markii Wooten | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: Hello, fellow Dannites. I am a good friend of Chere Snow's. I haven't heard from her in a good while and am kind of worried. If anyone has heard from her or about her, please hit me at the included address. Thanks.
User: FYI | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: The full stream of
"Everything Must Go"
was added to the SD Confessions player tonight!
http://www.repriserecords.com/steelydan/player/
User: What's the word in CT? | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: On Mohegan Sun gig? Don't see tix available on their website.
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: Pat,
I looked under all of those magazines and I still can't find that shirt.
I'm thinking it got lost in the shuffle. I haven't worn it since 1988.
Also, the future appears uncertain for the Bonnaroo Northeast concert.
Seems the county officials out there have cancelled the Field Day Concert
slated for June 7th and 8th on the same site due to a lawsuit filed
by environmental groups who claim that a proper environmental impact
study wasn't done to ensure the safety of the surrounding wildlife.
I'm thinking this probably means that Bonnaroo NE is D.O.A.
Damned environmentalists...hehehe!
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: Thanks for the 9/11 responses.
Guess who just scored four primo ducats to the Wallingford, CT Steely Dan show. ME!!!!!! Boo-yah! Who's the man!?!?!??!? I am.
So, I'll be seeing the boys (and girls) Aug.17 and Sept.10. Just too good to be my life!!!!!
Life is good.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: Howard: As Jimbo pointed out, there is a direct quote from Walter Becker in the Downbeat article, regarding the influence of 9/11 on EMG. Here is the entire quote, to put it into context, a bit.
"September 11, which came in the midst of the album's working process in Manhattan, had its impact, as well. "We were reminded anew of the impermanence of certain, seemingly permanent things, the erosion of order into chaos, and so on." Becker says."
I am dying to see the liner notes and LYRICS!!!! This has been the longest 2 week period and it's only 2 days into it. Why is it that the days go by very fast, except now? :-)
User: jon | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message: Has anyone posted Godwhacker lyrics here? Can anyone refer me if so?
Thanks up front.
User: Howard | Month: 4 | Day: 30
Message:
Thanks for those Onion article reminders. It's a while since I read the interview, and it's a great one! Interesting that, even then, Walter kind of questions the use of DVD surround sound mixes for their work - i.e whether it's appropriate or not. In one of the more recent interview clips he goes further and says that he prefers the traditional stereo, unless there is audience ambience to add from live shows where more genuine use can be made of the different channels. I haven't heard any music in this format, so I don't know what I would make of it...
Walter also makes the point (again, more recently reiterated) about how he applauds any new music format that allows them to reissue their old albums!
Not sure about the "post September 11th" influence on EMG. These guys have always written fictional stories, and with the kinds of characters and influences they've had from the start, they don't really need much help in coming up with dark and scary themes. I need to check out the recent interviews again to listen out for what they say... they were already talking about apocalyptic themes after 2VN, and now they've said that they have extended that in the new one. I guess the 9/11 attacks may have reinforced that, but I think they already had that path defined from a couple of years ago...
Is there any info on who did the horn arrangements on EMG? I'm guessing it will be similar to 2VN - i.e D+W with help on some tracks by someone else (Michael Leonhart). The funky horn stuff at the end of "Slang of Ages" (after "Slang me!") sounds like a Michael Leonhartism to me - love it. Some nice horn parts in Lunch with Gina too (more in Donald's style?).
Howard
User: suedave | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Hi you all,
Heard a story this morning on NPR where a town in the midwest had a train derailment with spilled chemicals some time ago; the emergency crew wanted to get the word out to everyone, so they called the local radio stations. There were 8 local stations - two were "manned", the other 6 were clear channel - and on autopilot. The result - a breakdown in emergency communications for the public benefit. Guess that didn't go over well, and the story is being used as an example of how a law should be changed I think? I guess one must also wonder about the benefit of "low-cost" in certain situations.
So about 12 days to go for the rest of us, eh?
User: Tahiti Fruity Flake | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: And reports of hearing "I kinda like frolicking with said cousin" in Things I Miss The Most are entirely misleading, sources say.
So it goes for "the hotter titties".
You just happen to have a dirty mind.
"You better get gone, Poppy
Run Run Run Run Run Run...
Godwhacker's on the case!"
User: Mr. Know-It-All | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: the ODP interview states that the lost Aja Master tapes are somewhere in the vicinity of the '54 Strat.
In other words, they were stolen at the same time and likely ended up in the same place.
The hut at Tahiti is somewhere in Tahiti.
User: the '54 strat | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: was incinerated when the nuke went off in midtown manhattan
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Wait - it's UPBEAT AN-NIHILISM!!!!!
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: DACW
Could be the just wanted to get some product out there.
One must never ever underestimate the power of extra $ in later age.
D&W, I hooked up with the head of art direction at AVON NY at the weekend, she said ''loads & loads'' of the models would just ''love'' to go to one of your shows.
I'll handle the details, If you could let me know the Min & Max number of models you need / require for a home town show.
Send me the ticket pick-up details.
(they don't travel well so this offer is limited to NY shows)
good work with the new album...vinyl release ? like you promised with 2VN...lol
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: FEZO: should be tomorrow, bud. sorry for the delay......
ygk
User: What I want to know is | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: What happened to the '54 Strat? Did the ex-wife get it in a particularly cruel divorce settlement? Did he have to sell it in order to eat?
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: coined
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: angel: They've gone from "downer surrealism" acoined by Zappa to "upbeat nihilism"...or something...
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Jimbo/Mu (DACW): Yes, the Downbeat article was where I got most of that information, but it is at home and I am at work, so I couldn't quote it.
Mu, A reposting was fine by me. :-) Considering the subject matter of the album, it's amazing that the whole thing doesn't sound like "Third World Man".
User: SpellCzech | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: revolving bands
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Jimbo, angel, Steven CT: hmmmmm...I seem to recall some "overanalysis" from a couple of months back...
...to repost or not to repost??...you bet! especially when I can stick this in StAl's face! mmwwwaaaahhhhhh!
This was based on the cover shortly after a picture was discovered on the 'net: We hadn't heard a note yet. But the themes expressed on The Last Mall, Things I Miss the Most, Blues Beach ('Medicine Park"), GodWhacker, the title track are consistent with the vibes I picked up in my pre-sculpted gray matter...
"Everything Must Go: Cover or Cover UP?
Gazing at the cover now on my eMac in Qucktime double size. Here's my take which may or may not represent even a smidgeon of what Donald & Walter have in mind.
I think the cover and album represent the New Paradigm. Most folks in the formerly increasing Dilbertian fantasy land that represented the mid to late 90s through 2000 had the notion that the new millenium began in 2000. Those who know the Gregorian calendar and Stanley Kubrick understood that the Gregorian calendar began with the year 1 AD, not 0...therefore, 2001 was the first year of the new millenium...
...and in that year, coincidentally or not, the World and the mathematics of profit and the disengenuous of greed and the faux New Economy model caught up with us, and how...laying waste to structure and dreams that were in the end just a house of cards dispersed as easily as a whisper in a digital dream...However, the human and material wreckage were grim and Real... Twisted metal, dust echoes of concrete and humanity chased us down the street and into a New Age, as different as each new age in Tolkien's Middle Earth...and the World again appeared as it indeed is: a tough, but frightengly beautiful place where the wolf is always at the door...
Everything that was new is gone, and that which was old is new again...for better of worse...
Also, a fractal of new paradigm is crystallized by the "new" back to basic approach that Steely Dan 2 used in molding EMG...In other words: Everything Must Go!
digital
drum machines
Wendel
Pro-Tools
studio musicians playing to "clicks"
over and over and over dubbing
revolving plans
hot licks and rhetoric
They ALL MUST GO!!!!
...and in the musical universe, the Kenny G's, Yanni's, and Britney Spears' of the planet All Must Go!
So we thus see a return in a sense to the recording paradigm and purpose of Katy Lied in the Dandom annals, where they first entered as a full-fledged non-Steely band, but took a core of musicians in (Becker, Fagen, Omartian, McDonald, Porcaro, Parks, Felder, Dias, and Randall) into the studio with the same strategy as the Miiles Davis albums of the 50s...
...In a large sense, the album represents not only a way of dealing with the New Paradigm, but the fallout of 9/11. After all, D&W had just begun early recording EMG at that time...following the 9/11 tragedy, they tried to go on, but the horror and ghosts, dust, and stench of death forced a retreat back to Hawaii within a few short weeks by October, 2001. What followed were recordings that dealt with, at least psychologically the collapse of the old paradigm...and as it fell corruption at Enron, Worldcom, Global Crossing were exposed, the flow of capital at the pork barrel trough shut off while both Republicans and Democrats still continued to lap it up... Whether it was at this time, D&W decided to return to analog or later I do not know, but I wonder if Things I Miss the Most is more a reflection of the New New Thing that is gone gone gone rather than an old lover...a re-expose of corruption at the nexus of the human heart. In 1999, Randy Newman wryly and ironically living the New Economy in his song "The World Isn't Fair" about Karl Marx revisiting Randy N. to find his plan in shambles;
"...If Marx were living today
He'd be rolling around in his grave
And if I had him here in my mansion on the hill
I'd tell him a story that t'would give his old heart a chill
It's something that happened to me
I'd say Karl I recently stumbled
Into a new family
With two little childrend in school
Where all little children should be
I went to the orientation
All the young mommies were there
Karl, you've never seen such a glorious sight
As these beautiful women arrayed for the night
Just like countesses, empresses, moive stars and queens
And they'd come here with men just like me
Froggish men, unpleasant to see
Were you to kiss one Karl
Nary a prince would there be
Oh Karl the world isn't fair
It isn't and never will be
They tried out your plan
It brought misery instead
If you'd seen how they worked it
You'd be glad you were dead
Just like I'm glad that I'm living in the land of the free
Where the rich just get richer
And the poor your don't ever have to see
'It would depress us Karl'
Because we care
That the world isn't fair"
Case in point: while at a conference I see the potential of human scientific and engineering endeavor, a new billion dollar monument to the idols of professional ball, and those practicing free speech against a war that is sorta over, de poor people sleeping without de shade or de light!...nary a panhandler or criminal as on the streets of Baltimore, but the physically handicapped, the mentally challenged and mentally ill...strewn blocks from restorations and fancy hotels...I gave what few piasters I could in these overbudgeted times...while watching women in cell phones shrieking at the tattered walking slowly but too closely like they're barely Alive in America...
So I think of this EMG in anticipation as a reverse Kamakiriad, a clever look at the immediate future and its ramifications told through the unique prism of the Steely subconscious...the warts and despair of America exposed...The inherent evil and folly, once glossed over in a corporate world and post-yuppie Clintonian fantasy enabling reared again, like the nightmarish skyscraper on the cover of the Royal Scam... the themes of Show Biz Kids, Charlie Freak, Any World, etc. revisited now told from their unique perspective of the new Paradigm time, age, and point of view...a thinking man's "The Rising"...as usual with Steely Dan, I expect more from the process and the pictures dealing with "what is left" painted than pedestrian sledgehammer themes...
...to the cover: a shroud or wall of doom surround the mostly back and white photo where only gold/precious stone in color...is the man, decendent of fallen kings wiping a tear with his left hand, rubbing his eyes in exhaustion or in acceptance of his fate? The precious rings and stones in a suitcase is kind of a metaphor for the once powerful Ken Lay no longer using their suitcases for transport of important papers (like plans to count foreign plant aquisitions and employees' stock options and 401ks as "profit."
...But in the end, and I have a feeling especially from the reviews that the album also addresses the opportunity of a new beginning, to set things right...despite despair, some teahouse on the tracks may be wating for us after all...
...to no longer live in a place where, to borrow from Randy Newman again,
"of all of the people
that I used to know
Most never adjusted
to the great big world
I see them lurking in book stores
working for the public radio
carrying their babies in a sack on their back
moving careful and slow...
...all of these people
are much brighter than I
In any fair system
they would flourish and thrive
But they barely survive
They eke out a living
and they barely survive"
Or NOT"
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: I misread the link.
It's actually
http://www.theonionavclub.com/avclub3713/avfeature_3713.html
Sorry about that, if anyone tried to get in earlier.
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Steven- In the Downbeat issue, there are some references to 9/11 that another person on the GB brought up. Something to do with "the erosion of order into chaos" as Becker mentioned. As for "Godwhacker," the writer thinks this: "Songs like the opener, The Last Mall, Godwhacker(about an assassination attempt on God), and the gospel-tinged Mercy, Mercy, Me-like title track contain a satirically apocalyptic resonance, albeit with upbeat, evn life-affirming musical trappings."
Makes you wonder if politicians want to be the Godwhackers. But then again, that's the writer's interpretation. He could ask, but Don and Walt won't tell him.
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: 12 More days till EMG.
Yesterday, I bought the Downbeat issue with Don and Walt. Very good article. I was hoping they'd talk more about how they shocked and hopefully pissed off the Clear Channel-run music industry by winning those four grammys two years ago. But that's okay. Maybe another magazine will cover it.
You might want to read the interview conducted two years ago by Joshua Klein. His questions were to the point.
http://www.theonionclub.com/avclub3713/avfeature_3713.html
In that interview, you'll find out that Puff Daddy tried to sample a Steely Dan tune and when he heard someone else did it ahead of him, he said something that really showed how arrogant he is. Lenny Kravitz plays a dubious role in this.
Clas- I know you're not crazy about Norah Jones, but on June 10th, Peter Malick, a singer songwriter in NY, will release an EP of 5 songs featuring Norah recorded in 2000. The name of the album is "New York City" and will be released by Koch Records.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Steven in CT: Very timely, actually. Not like I have any idea about what they did personally, but the album was in its beginning process, when 9/11 hit. D & W are on record as saying some of the cuts are directly a result 9/11 and its aftermath. "Things I Miss The Most", "Last Mall", "Godwacker" and even the title cut, may owe all, or part of their existence, to 9/11. Leave it to the Dan to transend horror and make something good out of it.
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: I am interested in getting some opinions on this topic.
What was Steely Dan's reaction to 9/11?
I honestly don't mean anything negative toward Donald and Walter in asking this. I believe I read that they (Walter?) auctioned off something (a guitar? some artwork?) through a radio station in Hawaii with the proceeds going to 9/11 relief. But these are two New York area guys. I wouldn't be surprised if they lost people in the WTC. I read that 'Godwhacker' is in some way a response to 9/11. True?
Maybe I'm unaware of other things they have done or statements they have made in this regard. But most New Yorkers were profoundly affected by the attack and I guess I expected SD to react somehow. Not that they are obligated to share their reaction with us. Grief can be a very private thing.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
And I do realise this is not a particularly timely question. Sorry.
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Not sure if this site has been posted before but it's one of those classic Internet time burners...
http://covers.wiw.org/artist/Steely+Dan
What surprised me most was I never knew String Cheese Incident covered Bodhisattva. Time for a Phishhook search...
Minutemen? Sublime? Interesting stuff.
Bill. Do yourself a favor and go to Bonaroo. If I lived within 500 miles of that show I'd be there. The original -- in Manchester TN has been sold out for a long time. One of the benefits of living on the heavily populated East coast are gigs like this. However, if you go, make sure to wear your I VOTED REPUBLICAN shirt. That'll really twist all those patchouli-soaked teenager minds.
Yes, I know you voted for Nader -- that's not the point. You know you have the shirt. It's in your bottom drawer. Right above your collection of "Swank" magazines...
Beers: Did I miss your review of the PG show? Wasn't it just about the best damn thing you've ever seen? Did he do the full-blown UP show complete with big rubber ball, round stage and phallic symbol?
StAl
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: Howard
Have you seen that pink paint that dries white ?
What a good idea that is.
I too shall be enjoying EMG in the garden tonight.
Godwhacker my Fav so far.
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message: YGK,
I'm not sure how much help the internet is for a new band trying
to be heard but it's something the older artists didn't have years ago.
How much of a help do you feel the net has been to you?
Beerberian,
I believe it goes "E-I-E-I-O". This is according to the Old Mcdonald's
English Handbook.
(Oops, Before I forget again...)
Happy 100th Birthday to Bob Hope!
Without a doubt Bob Hope was one of the funniest acts in history.
Just watching some of his old movies will have you laughing your ass off.
His timing was absolutely fantastic. Thanks Bob!
User: Howard | Month: 4 | Day: 29
Message:
Back from a few days decorating in the new house...
Played EMG quite a few times while doing the painting. Godwhacker, Lunch With Gina and the title track are still the strongest tracks in my mind. Green Book, Pixelene and Last Mall are not far behind. Blues Beach is still the only track that I feel could have been left out.
Blues Harp solo in Godwhacker and some of the other mad keyboard solos are great. Lots of great vocal harmonies. Tasty blues guitar and solid bass from Walter. Donald in truly fine voice.
The Mu Major chord is still, quite clearly, alive and well! There may even be a few "firsts" in the use of this SD favourite. Further analysis pending.
Clas - I didn't see the Eurovision song contest (haven't even heard the song) but am delighted that the UK got zero points! A quality performance.
Howard
User: Beers over easy | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: DACW; I knew that ... I was tired and emotional , OK Pissed !!! LOL
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47772-2003May28.html
Michael PowellÆs e-mail belowàsupport freedom and opportunity for artists and consumers concerning Internet and broadcast radio! I'd even offer TV deregulation for increased local control of Radio...
http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/powell/mkp_email.html
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: own
User: AndNaughty-OSnackedSmores | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Beer: Easy big fella... It's not really my place to explain my own jokes...I have other people doing that... ;-)
"From Berry Gordy to Milli Vanilli to American Karaoke, it's never changed...only a few make it financially, and they either blow it ..."
[reference to Michael Jackson...this week...see next VH1s Behind the Music for next week's loser]
"... or move to England..."
[reference to Madonna...the new Queen of Virtue...crown won in a crap shoot from Bill Bennett]
"...or end up in taxicabs..."
[reference to our oun Steely Dan]
This PSA brought to you by The Henny Youngman Foundation for Tone Deaf Fiddling and Petersen Wax Earplugs...
User: Beerberian | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: DACW; Would you care to explain "and they either blow it or move to England" ? I would hate to think you consider that failure...?
Bill; E & I ? and their juxtaposition ... discuss, or move to England...
YGK; We all judge, it's a kind of human condition, I think. In my personal judgement I preferred the swedish "non biz" stuff to a lot (but not all) on the Steely Knives CD. Hey, but that's showbiz hey?
Pat; So what did I do then? no PG banter?
User: Joe M | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Yo StAl!
Thanks for the props my man...
Revision 3.00 CDSD in the works.
EMG is a freaking CLASSIC, plain and simple.
Scorching solo's, mind boggling chord progressions, great vocals. Damn... It's gonna be a great summer.
JM
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Bill,
Yes, the deals upcoming artists sign are extremely unfair and favor the label: IÆm not going to go into excruciating detail, but suffice to say, the label essentially, lends money and makes some back û to the artists negative benefit, or the artist makes a little money, and the label makes back their investment and then some. Major label deals are ripe with unreasonable publishing deals and advances. I know David Moore has a link to explain how this works û itÆs pretty comical.
At the end of the day, the Independent Artist needs to have a product, and a place to play to sell it, in addition to any other internet/brick and mortar situations.
The more hands in the pot, the less that artist will make, like anything.
Want Promotion? Ok, but you pay up front.
Radio Airplay? Break out the Benjamins.
Some successful Indy artists are making their own tours in areas where they can handle, visit record stores, and build a following. WeÆre having enough of a time building a steady schedule of gigs in the city, because we donÆt do bandmills, and club owners are notoriously lazy about booking unless you have a huge draw.
ItÆs a brave new world.
Thanx for your empathy.
DACW: I will look into it........
ygk
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Bill: That why Maria charges Extra (over 50K) to make someone in the Record Business disappear!
From Berry Gordy to Milli Vanilli to American Karaoke, it's never changed...only a few make it financially, and they either blow it or move to England or end up in taxicabs (some of them driving)...for example, Aaron Neville got nothing, nada, el Zippo for his early hits including the No1 Smash "Tell It Like It Is."
The current assault of the RIAA and Clear Channel and Mark Cuban on Internet Radio (and even Gnutella) is all about Corporate CONTROL, not about making sure the artist receives proper recompence!... as guaranteed under the Constitution...because they, the record company weasels, know that Internet Radio is the last bastion of Aural Freedom left...Radio and Websites are the way for Independent and non-label artists to advertise...and importantly for music loving folks to find some real talent...
YGK: I've got a dumb question...Can you "display" your wares on Live 365 networks? ...Justin Morell's Dan tribute album has had a slow progression in sales and is selling pretty well on amazon.com
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: YGK,
I've got to hand it to you and everyone else who is trying to make it
in the music business.
I watched a show this morning (was it on VH1 or MTV?) about a couple
of rap artists who sold millions of albums but by the time they got
finished paying back the money that the record companies fronted them
they wound up with next to nothing.
There was this one group, I forget the name right now, that sold quite
a few cd's and after they paid back everything they owed they each got
something like 15 grand. I think there were 3 members of the group.
They wound up with 15 grand each after selling all those cd's???
What the hell is that? I just shook my head as I heard that...
Apparently the acts make thier money by touring after thier album is
successful. Also, if you can become a producer and produce the music of
other up and coming acts, then you'll make good buck at it.
Maybe the feds should investigate the music industry the same as they
should investigate Don King and his ilk over in the boxing industry.
User: Michael Jackson | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Anybody seen $500,000,000 lying around? No wonder those kids liked the couch...
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Clas: I'm dying to know. Why do you always have to criticize people? Why do you have to be so damn rude?
I'm just wondering because like many on this message board we also know another side of your personality. One that is engaging, honest and polite. What makes you want to say such negative things? I honestly want to know why.
Has everyone had a chance to download the new Everything Must Go screensaver? Or should I say -- all PC owners... Checking the logs it appears as if it's been downloaded over 1000 times. Way to go Joe!
Pat
User: Beers | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Sound of the Suburbs ?
User: Beavis 'n Butthead | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: He said "member." uhhh huuuhhh huuhhhuuhhhh
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message:
YGK: Well said mate.
User: The Co-worker | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Come to think of it, Clas does talk about his dog's member alot.
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 28
Message: Great! Clas - now that we got that out of the way........Since you're not in the biz, or even trying to be, you have no business judging those who either make some of their living struggling to create original musical things, and making it work in the music business. It's not easy or guaranteed.
So judge/criticize what you know about: Signage, Your Dog's Member, and Drinking/AA.
Meanwhile, I will forge ahead with what is a difficult proposition of making a living making music.
Lars: at this point, we're out. When we make our 2nd pressing, I will have a link/system for ordering: domestic US and International. Thanx for asking.
ygk
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 27
Message: No, the first pressing was actually 264 copies, and I bought them all!
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 4 | Day: 27
Message: YGK - second pressing? Wow, the first pressing was 250 ex...
How come one can't buy that one in an CD-store? No distribution, no label, no contract, Malc?
Homespun?
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 27
Message: OLE: 2nd pressing soon, I hope........we're out of the first
www.jazziz.com
http://www.summerstage.org/
Hope this helps....
ygk
User: allthenewsthat'sprinttofit | Month: 4 | Day: 27
Message: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42091-2003May26.html
User: bwaySteve | Month: 4 | Day: 27
Message: Last night @ Hawthorne , Steely Stan placed. Paid $6.20
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: Has anyone bought tickets for Bonnaroo Northeast yet?
It's a 3 day concert out on eastern Long Island. The tickets are around
$200 bucks (Except for the V.I.P. Tix which are $1200 a pair).
The following acts will be performing there...
Bob Dylan
Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds
The Dead
Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers
String Cheese Incident
Gov't Mule
Rusted Root
North Mississippi Allstars
Steve Winwood
Hot Tuna
The Radiators
And too many more bands/artists to list.
The website is www.bonnaroo.com
User: The Philosopher's Stoned | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: for a new oblique perspective - www.everythingforever.com
happy mind-bending
User: Fingers | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: The Dan Collective:
(ex- Danny Steel Orchestra)
The UK's latest Steely Dan Revue band
are appearing on
Saturday 31st May at 9pm
The Musician
Clyde Street
Leicester, LE1 3DE
box office
0116 283 5533
Performing the coolest music on the planet...STEELY DAN
All live ...and kicking.
"close your eyes and you'll be there, it's everything they say..."
www.thedancollective.co.uk
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: C, nice Even in the Quietest sig reference. Anyway, I'm very captivated by recent records by The Soundtrack of Our Lives (yes Swedes that they are) and Lucinda Williams (very intense). BTW, the Fair Forgery sales numbers from the GB are very paltry (angel & tones). I know everyone is saving their money for EMG but if you get a chance to acquire AFFoPF, please do so -- I'm not begging (ok, I'm begging -- the link is "my homepage above). We just sold a copy to a guy in Russia and have sold copies to buyers in Austrailia, France, the Netherlands, England, Ireland and Canada. I'm hitting all the South American Floyd sites to try to generate sales down there but my Spanish is "sin" clue.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: Has anyone else (StAl?) notice a vague similarity (bit & pieces) between Godwacker and I Got the Bear?...it takes some sculpting to hear it...
30 sec clips are great...put them on for a fix...they don't do the whole song structures justice by any stretch of the imagination!!!!!!...with the TvN clips, the rest of the songs fell into place...here, the songs take off in unexpected directions...the scary thing is that the title track on at least half of the Dan albums would be the strongest track...but every song in that string from Godwhacker to Slang of Ages to Greenbook to Pixeleen to Lunch With Gina is going to be scrumptious beyond belief...and Things I Miss the most is probably equal...love the echo and open soundscape of The Last Mall...
This will be a Special recording...
User: C @ Work | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: Brits - ah no! Sweden has done pretty well over the years, it started with Abba.
Finland, that's Scandinavia okay, those eastern people use to take the Jumbo.
Strange thing is, Israel is allowed to participate in the contest, but not Syria or Lebanon.
---
Anyone know where I can find the link where Fagen/Becker is making fun over the deaths of Andy and Maurice Gibb?
User: GoodKingRichard | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: Hey there!
It's been a (long) while. Just lurking, as anticipation of the new one gets the better of me... that and working out while of my souls to sell to see the guys in concert. Good to see some familiar faces still hanging in there.
Hope all's well with you and yours, wherever you are
Richard&kangaroos
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message:
C@W: Very confusing, I agree. I'm sure that, in previous years, a song only scored "Zero Points" if it was Scandinavian in origin, or does my memory deceive me?
User: Bad Sneakers | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: Clas
It was such a good song too - What was it called ??? Pixeleen or something
Still theres always next year - the Scottish entry from my Spinal Tap cover band "Punctured brain" - A reworking of 'Stonehenge' with a dance beat - Working on it now
Bet you can't wait eh ???
User: C @ W | Month: 4 | Day: 26
Message: Howard - did you watch the Eurovision Song Contest?
Britain; zero points, he he...
User: Giving a little bit... | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: ... I fell asleep once with the radio on. Woke up in the middle of the night, to the song "Downstream". That's a beautiful song.
StAl - so if Global Warming, Child Abuse etc etc are serious business, that means that RocknRoll isn't?
Come on now, there are such things as differences in degrees.
---
Where can I find the link to the weird interview where Becker/Fagen are talking about how much Maurice Gibb, Bee Gees and Andy Gibb meant to them?
C
User: oleander | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Hello strangers. Delurking momentarily.
Dr. K--Well, I swan. I would never have taken you for a closet optimist--"the next one after the new one," indeed.
FlaDavid--We were HOURS north of you, otherwise I would've called in a clockdrive heartbeat.
lc paul--welcome back.
Bway Steve--I'm looking forward to hearing you again.
Zeke--Next year, 'k? Meantime, we have the Orange Peel here to keep us in tastes of the Fest. Ex-Howling Wolf folks up from NO.
YGK--slowly I turned.... Did you say Ben Folds Five this summer? They broke up, after all.... Can you steer me to more info?
WJAZ, other NC Danizens--what think about a bus trip to Atlanta?
This... album... will... RULE....
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Even in the Quietest Moments is a great record (not much of a rocker). "Monday, has come around again . . . . ."
User: DACW - Stop Michael Powell Now! | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Daddy, give your son a spanking!
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/5/25/121501.shtml
Both the right and left wing media agree on this one
Daddy must have pulled something off though - SHARON CAVES!!!!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38418-2003May25.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32154-2003May23.html
t: me, I'm laughing
"Yes. I've always been a Yankees fan"
"I'm part Jewish"
"Yes, visited the grieving 9/11 families"
Dan on the Cover of both Downbeat and Ice!!
User: Doctor Warren Kruger | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Since it's getting darn close to the release of the new one in the States, I decided to take guerilla action (with the help of my ex-patient/prisoner,z)to get to the bottom of the WB lead guitar/bass issue.
Things are bad in NY, so I was able to get z's service for a song, and we hopped aboard the Krugerplane, and reached the avocado fields in a matter of hours.
The plan was this: I'd distract the underpaid migrant workers he has making slave wages for him, and z would chloroform him and get him into the Krugerplane for the Amytal session.
It went like a dream, and I even have a transcription of the Amytal session, featuring z and myself, probing WB for the truth.
Those of you offended by frank language should probably not read WB's answers, as his mouth is literally full of tar during much of this:
WB: The fuck is goin'on?
Dr.K: Now relax sir, we're just trying to get to the bottom of the lead guitar/bass issue on the new one.
WB: What?
z: Look buddy, don't play dumb with us. You know what we're talking about- you playing both bass and all the lead guitar solos on the new one.
WB: Oh, that. We were going for more of a set group sound and-
z: Don't give me this set group crap, even on the atrocious early junk, you had Skunk or Denny take the solos!
WB: Well, my playing has matured since then, and I-
z: Oh come on, I heard your solo on "Jack of Speed" on TVN, it was pitiful, pitiful!
WB: Actually I think I got some good-
z: And how come the solo on "Plush" was so much better?
WB: Jon gave me a little hand with-
z: Yeah, I thought so! Look, why the hell are you doing this? You're destroying a time honored tradition on SD albums. The first thing me and my friends discuss is who played the solos on the last SD album, and now you're ruining the damn time honored tradition! How can you ruin a time honored tradition?
WB: Look, where the hell am I? What did you give me? I feel kinda-
z: You started with TVN and now you're just going hog wild! You're playing the goddamn bass on every track on-
Dr. K.: Uh,z- could you watch the language?
z: Oh, sorry doc, got a little carried away.
So why couldn't you just call Chuck Rainey, or Tom Barney, or Marcus Miller, or any other of those black dudes you usually use?
Why, you're not even black!
WB: Chuck doesn't live around here anymore and- no, this is ridiculous! What am I doing answering this maniac?
z: Maniac? I've been treated by Doc K. here, and he totally cured me! Right Doc? Tell him!
Dr.K.: Well, maybe there are some unresolved issues that you need to-
z: See! I'm alright now. And we want answers!
WB: Look, there's a cop over there!
Dr.K.: Cops? There aren't any-
z: Hey, he's getting away!
Dr.K.:Guldarn it!
At this point, he squirmed away. That fellow has the constitution of an ox! I gave hin enough amytal to keep him under for hours.
He must have a lot of experience with the barbituates, but I think we got our point across.
The next one after the new one is bound to be a lot different from the new one.
Triumphantly Yours,
Dr.K.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: jjeff: Actually, I own a signed copy of Breakfast in America. I just meant that I thought Steely Dan should have been higher then them. What can I say. Others who came out ahead of the Boys, Foreigner, Journey, & STYX. Things that make you go, hmmmm.
Doobies, Police, Bowie, Peter Gabriel and Cars were behind them. Not like it was a scientific study of music, or anything, listeners choice. Of course, I didn't send anything in, so I didn't skew the results. :-)
User: jjeff-I think I wet 'em | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Tones, you're hummin' in a most excellent way. Keep it up. Make me laugh.
Angel: You don't like Supertramp? I'll admit Breakfast... was quite commercial and overplayed MOR, but Crime... was an incredible album and makes up 80% of their material on their currant tour. Maybe it was the period I grew up, I can't say. Crisis.. another fine album.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Well the local Classic Rock Clear Channel station in my area is doing a top 100 type thing this weekend. I happened to be in the car when Rikki came on and caught the fact that SD is number 31 on their list. They then played Deacon Blues and (of course) Reelin'. I ran an errand and came back to the car just in time to learn that Supertramp was number 29. The nerve! :-)
They also mentioned that they gave away lots of tickets to the SD upcoming concerts recently. I missed that, but found it amusing. Especially when I had asked if that station would be playing Blues Beach and they said they had never heard of it and didn't know that Steely Dan had a new album coming out soon.
Also heard Deacon Blues in a 107 year old, 24 hour Cafe this morning. Bet the patrons of this establishment aren't used to hearing Wayne Shorter solos, as a general rule.
Good Steely kind of day, today! :-)
User: We hate Hitlery because | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: She refused to attend any memorial services for any of her "constituents" who were killed on 9.11 except for the gay priest who was hit by a falling body.
Also, after her husband raped Juanita Broaddrick TWICE in Little Rock, she intimidated the victim saying to keep her mouth shut about the rape. Hitlery is an evil enabler.
User: except for the gay priest who was hit by a falling body | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: spoken like a true compassionate conservative
User: Mr.Chips | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Today's lesson:
Compare and contrast the money spent by the independent prosecutor's office probing where the former president spilt his seed versus the dollars allocated to investigating why the Bush adminitration failed to take any action* to prevent the 9/11 attacks despite numerous warnings from both inside and outside the government.
Invoking the name of country music acts, movie stars you don't like, or speculating about the patriotism of the questioner is considered non-responsive.
*Unless you consider Ashcroft switching from commercial to private air travel two months prior "taking action"
User: tones | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: btw, now that our resident hooeys are posting again, I want to re-pose a question: what specifically did Hillary Clinton do to piss you all off?
I'm posing this question with honest intentions and I won't rebuke any honest answers. I just want to know. The only comment I have about it is this: a lot of the reaction she gets seems to me to be knee-jerk and misogynistic. For instance, I can name several political and historical reasons G.W and Bill Clinton should be put in jail, but no one seems to have any concrete reasons to spew so much bile at HRC. And if that's the case it certainly says a lot more about you than it does about her.
Toss me a clue if you can spare one...
User: What are they putting in the water down there in Tampa? | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Hey - Do you think Clinton was the first president to masturbate? No. But he was the first to have the opposing party waste *20 million tax dollars* to investigate it.
Maybe if you tried it you wouldn't get so "worked up" about it...
And while you're so ready to place blame, where did the "Osama problem" originate? Hmmmmm? let me help you - think back to 1985 and remember who was in office.
Now grab yourself and Victoria's Secret catalog and... grab yourself...
User: Luckless Pedestrian, fresh from the Sunday Times | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Remember kids, you can find a fuck up on Mid-East policy in every administration dating back, and including, Truman...
User: FaceTheFace | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Good day one and all!!
Per a Bon Voyage for our most toasted "bad girl": show of hands those who have AOL, Yahoo messenger, or AIM. Almost every one of us can access one or more of these three - AIM being the easiest and free downloadable from the NET. We'll do our own chat thing if Cyn still has the time before she has to report to the boarding gate, which, with the high terror alert may have been yesterday.
Let us make a concerted effort to join hands in a Banyan Tree-like circle and bang the drum slowly...no dead men walking! We goin' to do the ritual dance of the spear-toting, head-hunting, flesh-eating, camel-riding heathen chil'lins from the great concrete jungle. Everyone on with your Air Jordans, this requires superior calf muscles and extreme stamina of maximum glutius. Zulu warriors we style ourselves - misdirected though we may be, spears ever at the ready to run through the windmill enemy. On with my armor good squire Sancho!!! Dulcinea, Dulcinea...
Let us lay down our spears then and have mirth and happiness in spite of ourselves.
Cyn: please to instruct possible dates and times for the Celebrity Rude Roast and directions to the diner (there are too many to list here in New Joisey, but they are all good venues and instantly recognizable for the slang-slung bein' dun.
Think I'll go buy tickets to see the "boys" ten minutes up the parkway at the PNC Arts Center cumm August....(and you asked "why New Jersey of all places?!")
User: Hey DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Hitlery Rotten Clinton's book is being released the day before EMG is released. Do you think she is going to give her opinion about why her husband decided to make love to the oval office sink rather than her? And will she tell us why she didn't attend any memorial services for any of the victims of 9.11 except for the gay priest who was hit by a falling body?
User: Razor Boy | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Give hell DACW. At least someone here sees things the way I do. No worries, the hole they've dug is much to deep to crawl out of anyway.
It doesn't take a village, it takes a village idiot. Global warming my ass. Alright Chicken Little, I'm a duckin'---------lookout.
Going to restock the mini, and hang with Abbu, and Pix
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: add Robert Rubin - domestically
User: Hutch | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Clas - We got little buckeroos over here. They're tougher than gringos and cowboys combined!
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Razor - yes, they're all great stuff...and the 30 sec clips don't reveal the interesting twists and turns of virtually every song...the tete a tete between Walter and Donald on Greenbook is pretty cool...Pixelene is a timeless classic...Lunch with Gina is foreveahhh. Combine Pretzel Logic, Katy, Nightfly, a touch of Nightfly, Kama and a live sho...these recordings have real neural adhesion properties! This is something special!!!
StAl: Yes they are (except for global warming which doesn't exist currently and can a squelched from starting through FUEL CELLS), and Clinton ignored them and rode the .com bubble until it burst. In fairness, part of the problem was that Bill Clinton was the ONLY real talent in his administration besides Dick Morris...the rest were incompetent (but who hired them?). In W's case, he's surrounded by talent (kind of the opposite) - he has to choose who's right...mostly he relies on Powell and Rice...
Bill Clinton = Edwin Edwards
I think by the time Clinton stopped playing golf and woke up regarding foreign policy (besides bombin aspirin factories) it was too late...the failed negotiation at Camp David where Barak gave Arafat everything the Paelstinian Arabs wanted - Gaza, the West Bank - a connecting land strip, halting of Israeli settlements must have been an eye opener. It's not a concidence that the latest PLO and Hamas terrorist campaign immeidately just after that time...by that time Clinton was busy with PardonGate instead of his job...
Ken Starr: Don't you have graduation at Pepperdine to organize or something? As usual, your research depends on thinly researched opinion pieces from now disereputable news sources. This is not your father's (Bob Woodward's) Washington Post. We know now that the NY Times, CNN, and Washington Post just flat MAKE IT UP!! I went to overseas sources (ENGLAND) for the REAL facts:
How come Clinton didnÆt pay attention to the FBIÆs most wanted international fugitive poster (from 1999!)
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
It was known that bin Laden had direct ties to the USS Cole the day after the bombing!!!:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2000/10/13/wclin13.xml
Bill Clinton had plans to attack Al Qaeda in December, 2000, but blew it off:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2002%2F08%2F05%2Fwalq05.xml
The man who negotiated handing over Osama by the Sudan to Clinton in 1996 sez otherwise:
Chuck Noe,
Thursday, Dec. 6, 2001
Bill Clinton ignored repeated opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist allies and is responsible for the spread of terrorism, one of the ex-presidentÆs own top aides charges.
Mansoor Ijaz, who negotiated with Sudan on behalf of Clinton from 1996 to 1998, paints a portrait of a White House plagued by incompetence, focused on appearances rather than action, and heedless of profound threats to national security.
Ijaz also claims Clinton passed on an opportunity to have Osama bin Laden arrested.
Sudanese President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, hoping to have terrorism sanctions lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of bin Laden and "detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas,ö Ijaz writes in todayÆs edition of the Los Angeles Times.
These networks included the two hijackers who piloted jetliners into the World Trade Center.
But Clinton and National Security Adviser Samuel "Sandyö Berger failed to act.
öI know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities,ö Ijaz writes.
öThe silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening.
öAs an American Muslim and a *****political SUPPORTER of Clinton,***** I feel now, as I argued with Clinton and Berger then, that their counter-terrorism policies fueled the rise of bin Laden from an ordinary man to a Hydra-like monster,ö says Ijaz, chairman of a New York investment company and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
IjazÆs revelations are but the latest to implicate the Clinton administration in the spread of terrorism. Former CIA and State Department official Larry Johnson today also noted the failure of Clinton to do more than talkàö
User: Razor Boy | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: EMG is outstanding. Slang of Ages and Pixeleen are my faves so far. Pixeleen may be one of my favorited Dan tunes to date. These guys never cease to amaze. See everyone on tour.
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Hey: Bottom line is a lot of bad things would have never happened if hindsight was actually foresight. I'm not a fan of Clinton either for some of the very things you elude to, but your argument is pointless and only serves to inflame and cloud the real issues.
Clas: Grand scheme. War, Famine, Poverty, Human Rights, Child Abuse, Global Warming. Those are serious issues. Rock and Roll? Give me a fucking break.
StAl
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: That must be the ultimate US-Gringo, so obsessed with someone elses sexlife.
Like FBI's Hoover.
User: Bill Clinton's Hunt For Osama Bin Laden | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: 25. Id. at 17. After the sexual encounter, she saw the President masturbate in the bathroom near the sink. Id. at 18.
31. Id. at 26. As Ms. Lewinsky departed, she observed the President "manually stimulating" himself in Ms. Hernreich's office. Id. at 27.
35. Id. at 30-32. They engaged in oral-anal contact as well. See Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 29-33.
37. Id. at 37-38. The President then put the cigar in his mouth and said to Ms. Lewinsky: "it tastes good." Lewinsky 7/30/98 Int. at 12-13; see also Lewinsky Depo. at 38.
User: Hey, | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Bottom line is Clinton let Osama go free when he could have taken him into custody. And trying to shift the blame to Shakes The Clown Janet Reno's legal advice is sad. Your president chose to masturbate into the Oval Office sink instead of neutralize Osama Bin Laden. It is not something you should be proud of.
User: FDR | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: I beat off looking at the Saturday Evening Post on December 6, 1941.
Sorry about that.
User: In These Times | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: "Operation Desert Mirage
Americans may have already forgotten about weapons of mass destruction, but the United Nations hasnÆtùand itÆs demanding answers
By Ian Williams
Faith moves mountains, hides weapons, and makes oil flow. At the beginning of May, the new viceroy of Iraq, retired Lt. Gen. Jay Garner, who seems to have recently resumed his military title, announced that the shortage of gasoline in Iraq was the United NationsÆ fault. He said that continuing U.N. sanctions stopped supplies to the pumps in Baghdad.
Of course, until then, most of us not schooled in the new Republican reality had assumed that the purpose of U.N. sanctions was to stop Iraq exporting oil except under strictly regulated circumstances. So if the U.N. Oil for Food program was struggling to get moving again, this meant that there was less oil being exported, which should mean that there was more oil left behind in Iraq. But reality shimmers like a mirage in the growing desert heat. It is always the United NationsÆ fault.
Anyone else but this administration would blush when faced with the absence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But it was fairly obvious that the White House was only kidding when it used that as the excuse to the United Nations for the invasion. Now, they genuinely seem unembarrassed when they ask the Security Council to give validation to their conquest, which was allegedly carried out in support of the United Nations, in search of weapons that they alleged were definitely there, and which the allegedly conniving and inefficient U.N. weapons inspectors willfully would not find.
Or maybe the invasion was to force the Iraqis to cooperate properly with the weapons inspectors. Certainly Washington is now refusing to let the weapons inspectors return to Iraqùpossibly because they had proved their inefficiency by not finding the weapons that a quarter of a million heavily armed allies have also failed to find. Even the British at the United Nations agree that no one will believe an allied ôdiscoveryö of weapons in Iraq unless it is koshered by U.N. inspectors. When Bush says the weapons ôwill be found,ö it does sound almost as much like an order as a prophecy.
But then, no one has found Osama bin Laden in Baghdad; indeed, they cannot find Saddam Hussein in Baghdad either. If ordinary Fox News viewers scratched their medium-term memory, this could worry them, since this was part of the war against terrorism and payback time for 9/11."
read more:
http://inthesetimes.com/comments.php?id=187_0_1_0_C
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Ooopsie, I forgot, for all musicians who wants to be a part of the 4th Guestbook CD, here's the URL:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/sketchesandstrangeloops
While you're writing down my address you are able to listen to Gina, featuring Steady Session and Short Fuse; "Out of Line", cool song.
And if you're interested to hear more from the Steady Session's new album, you can here more clips if you log in on the record company:
www.streetzone.com
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 4 | Day: 25
Message: Keyshaw - you're not welcome to one of those Danfests, isn't that terrible? How are you going to deal with it?
Jimbo - I own 2 Yellow Jackets albums, and I bought them in town, in an ordinary CD-store; "Greenland" & "Mint Jam", which I think is their latest, a live album. Excellent musicians. My fave song on that album is "Turtoise and the Hare".
On their webpage they say the drummer is Marcus Baylor, but before him I think it was a guy named Kennedy?
I have a friend, who's a sucker for the music Yellow Jackets made back in the 80's, he played some of that music for me, and I couldn't believe it was the same band, awful fusion, with awfully sounded synth sounds.
(And for selling their music on their webpage, I know another band that does that too, Steely Dan is their name)
---
StAl - "only rocknroll", wow! To me it's serious stuff. And it's quite obvious that it is for some other people too, it's a Money Making Machine Pat, and any Money Making Machine whatsoever, on this earth, is pretty "serious".
User: Ken Starr | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: What a Crock
http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2002/national-reporting/works/100301a.html
By Barton Gellman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 3, 2001; Page A01
The government of Sudan, employing a back channel direct from its president to the Central Intelligence Agency, offered in the early spring of 1996 to arrest Osama bin Laden and place him in Saudi custody, according to officials and former officials in all three countries.
The Clinton administration struggled to find a way to accept the offer in secret contacts that stretched from a meeting at a Rosslyn hotel on March 3, 1996, to a fax that closed the door on the effort 10 weeks later. Unable to persuade the Saudis to accept bin Laden, and lacking a case to indict him in U.S. courts at the time, the Clinton administration finally gave up on the capture.
...
Clinton administration officials maintain emphatically that they had no such option in 1996. In the legal, political and intelligence environment of the time, they said, there was no choice but to allow bin Laden to depart Sudan unmolested.
"The FBI did not believe we had enough evidence to indict bin Laden at that time, and therefore opposed bringing him to the United States,"
So what was bush doing for nine months before 9/11? Vacationing at his ranch and talking to cows? Choking on pretzels? Planning a pipeline deal with the Taliban?
Bombing of the USS Cole: The proof that the Cole bombing was the work of al Qaeda operatives came down from the FBI in February 2001. Please tell us Republicans "Who was president at that time?"
So....Why didn't the Bush people punish al Qaeda when they got proof that the group was behind the Cole bombings? HMMMMM?????
See: http://www.monitor.net/monitor/0202a/enroncoverup.html
7 months to do something. Still no substantive hearings on what the WH knew before 9/11. Wonder why?
Try some facts next time shameless...
User: DACW - the final solution | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Programming merging King of the World and The Nightfly...9 Hits:
The Last Mall - One last trip to Neiman-Marcus before the Big One
Things I Miss the Most - What do you mean I can
t unload the Ryder into the Fallout shelter...hey, what's this old picture of Tuesday Weld doing here?
Blues Beach - Is it SP 30,000 sunscreen for Nookyular Fallout?
GodWhacker - They're going after the Big One with the Power Puff Girls
Slang of Ages - Parlez-vous a hubba hubba, mutant babe?
Green Book - There's gotta be one number in my glowing, formerly black, book who's got her cell phone and neural net still on...the future of the human race depends on us...where are my remedies?
Pixeleen - Can't make a connection...maybe I'll finally answer one of those Singles Spam ads...or maybe I can get on Blind Date?
Lunch with Gina - I wouldn't date you if you were the last woman in the world...Oh, you are the last woman in the world...
Everything Must Go - Oy, look at this mess! Mutants will trade for canned meat...looks like I'm back in Vegas with a pot handle in my hand...
...See you next year!...
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: ¯: Yeah, they used to call me "Plank." So watch it buster
Shame: That's right...and the lady in Slang of Ages would be from LeatherWorld not Netherworld...
...I should scroll faster...oral-anal...eeeeyyyyyyeeeeeoouuuuuwww
{submilinabable ethnic slur] multiple orgasms?...I don't think so...
I'm gonna wash out this eMac with lye soap now...
User: Moll | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Bluz, thanks Sugar! However, I'm a one-man woman. I'm with Deck. My heart and body are his exclusively. But I couldn't pick a better bunch of Ladies to be in a harem with. They're the best. :)
User: tones | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: "sick monster"? lol...
"what a shame" - back away from the keyboard, turn off the computer, and get some therapy...
User: What A Shame | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=clinton+grounds++bathroom+sink+near&btnG=Google+Search
Link to Clinton's sink exploits...
User: What a | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Fezo. Bill Clinton was maturbating in the oval office sink in his twisted Monica "non-sex" episonds while Osama was gearing up for 9/11. And the sick monster nixed an offer from the Sudan to extradite Osama because he said he didn't want to deal with the politics of capturing him. If the Sink Emperor Clinton had accepted the Sudan's deal, the twin towers would still be standing and those innocent victims would still be alive. Shame on you.
User: DACW - who needs a worm on the hook? | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Well, we could use more Wormy or ymroW...
fezo: ROFLMAO...but is there an Intended joke in our near future? ...I'm all for poor taste and irreverence, but that requires irony or humor in this venue... does this mean that only liberals are allowed to be offended (I'm not - just making a point)...Mansoor has amazing analytical skills - grad degrees from Harvard & MIT
You were expecting Bush to fly on of those small fighter jets he used during the 'Nam era into flight 93? ...now That would be a movie!...oh wait, wasn't that lile the Harrison Ford Air Force One thing? W wanted to play Cowboy and head back to DC right away, but the Secret Service has this President vs. the Presidency duty thing...Clinton would have continued to play golf with Kenny Boy...
StAl's has made an excellent point about Bill...
They're booed in person and from miles away - a F.U.T.K. shirt from 1500 miles away is brave and knee slapping jokes stuff...The Dixie Chickens I'd say
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/142/technology/Dixie_Chicks_booed_snubbed_at_:.shtml
You're right on one thing - TLM is the best thing out there on Clear Channel, internet radio (wait, Mark Cuban's got that hostage) beside maybe Blues Beach or maybe in the last malls themselves soon...but that's just a taste of what's to come...
In honor StAl and Q, may I present another Overanalysis of EMG - this time from only hearing EMG in lo fi and imagining the cymbals:
"Everything Must Go is an amazing and lively melding of blues, 40s jazz, 50s jazz, roots of rock and roll, 70s R&B into a form that's fresh, new, and sassy. There's more spirit in Everything Must Go that any Steely Dan album
since Katy Lied. Infectious melodies, production, and playing are
juxtaposed against the Apocalyptic notions and a litany of usual Dan
themes: dysfunctional male-female relationships, sex, drugs with quite
a bit if irreverent and sneaky humor. There are plenty or surprises and
spontaneous moments on EMG. "The Last Mall" is a classic altered blues
that swings. "Things I Miss the Most" is a cross between Satchmo and Mr.
Sting longing for an ex in a most peculiar way. "Blues Beach" features a catchy 60s pop sound sensibility glossing over something very, very wrong. "Godwhacker" ranks among the Dan's finest recordings. Walter Becker's guitar and bass playing are strong throughout the album, and his vocalizing on the bluesy and hip "Slang of Ages" is not to be missed. "Green Book" is an
absolutely hypnotizing film noir-sounding tune. "Pixeleen" is snappy,
infectious look at a virtual girl. "Lunch with Gina" offers a yet another
Steely Dan fusion of funk with jazz, but this time it's like a combination
of Glenn Miller and Prince over a hook-filled melody. The title track is a
classic, jazzy send off on leaving it all behind. Two Against Nature
offered very fine recordings, heavy with Miles Davis and Stax R&B,
Everything Must Go is a more satisfying gourmet meal worthy come
Grammy time."
"...for my next trick, I'll make love disappear..."
- Warren Zevon
"...no fart jokes"
- Denny Dias
"...I can't get arrested in this town"
- Neil Finn
User: Lars | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Bluz: very nice play-list. That new Maria Muldaur - is it good? Her last one, 'Richland Woman Blues', was very good.
L
User: fezo | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Mu: spare me the Ari Fleischer "people have to watch what they say" cracker jingoism. While Neil's song certainly wasn't as exploitative as say the President who spent 9/11 hiding on Air Force One selling pics of said hiding out for political donations, I've still always thought it reeked of trivializing unnecessarily what was indeed a very brave act by the people on the plane that went down in PA.
and you'll have to remind me of when the Dixie Chick were booed off a stage by country music fans. It certainly wasn't last week at the Wayne Newton "country" music awards fest in Vegas. They were closer to you than they were to Nevada that evening, appearing by remote from somewhere in Texas.
Back to SD content: the main triple A station in C'ville now has Blues Beach in heavy rotation. Holy shit, that's some good stuff. There's no way that's on the same level of the "Cousin Dupree" first release throwaway.
User: Spring fever | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Beer's thanks for the concert updates Surrey bound..strung up by the ankles"
Molly if i had a harem" i'd harem in the morning" I'd want you in it"
Danno thanks for the story
Rude baby! you name the dive tonight i'm in...crackers for all"
Pixeleen thanks for the ears"
played yesterday
Larry Fuller Trio..Easy Walker.."groove yard" (new)
Horace Silver.."song for my father"
Chris Connor.."senor blues"
Wayne Shorter.."adams apple" february 1966
Junior Wells.."why are people like that"
Yusef Lateef..lp Jazz Mood.."morning"
Eddie Henderson..So What.."prince of darkness" (new)
Joe Henderson.."loose change"
Rickie Lee Jones..It's Like This.."trouble man"
Zack Brock & The Coffee Achievers.."now i know common grounda" (new)
Stephane Grappelli/Mcoy Tyner..One on One.."how high the moon"
Boz Scaggs.."but beautiful" (new)
Stanley Turrentine..lp Blue Hour.."since i fell for you"
John Lee Hooker.."dimples"
Albert King/Otis Rush..Door To Door.."california"
B.B. King & Eric.."riding with the king"
Dizzy Gillespie.."swing low sweet cadillac"
Maria Muldaur..A Woman Alone With The Blues..remembering peggy lee.."some cat's know" (new)
Andy Bey.."tuesdays in chinatown"
Donald Byrd.."night flower"...for teri
Sonny Clark.."come rain or come shine"
Ray Charles..Blues + Jazz
Dr. John.."i know what i've got"
Grant Green.."idle moments"
John Basile.."it was a very good year" (new)
Get your pan ready,
I'm gonna beat your bread.
Lee Green
"I'm Gonna Beat Your Bread"
bluz
User: DACW - slang me | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: fezo: I strongly suggest you write a letter to each of the families of the vicitms/heroes of United Airlines Flight 93 expressing that sentiment....I'm sure they'll be impressed...are you sure you went to UVa? You should look up Monsoor Ijaz, a UVa grad on the internet...he'll set you straight...
Months and months ago I mentioned the Dixie Chicks regarding the music on their latest one - pretty good...and it registered a collective yawn before Natalaie Maines comment...but I'll tell you this - the people who booed them offstage of the Country Music Awards were NOT part of Clear Channel...
...Speaking of Clear Channel...how do you deal with the hype machine? ...and an internet ready paradigm? Saturation bombing....a MOAB... At this time before TvN...stuff was leaking out all over the place...Amazon.com sales were consistently in the top 5 - now they're stuck in the 60s...There was curiosity because TvN was Dan's first studio album in 20 years...This time Warner/Reprise/whoever is meting promo stuff consistently out bit by bit. This keeps the S/N hype ratio consistently low. The Vietnam syndrome - no one can micromanage a chaotic system, especially today. Who buys a car without a test drive? a house unseen? an oven without looking at it, pricing and doing a bit of research, a painting or sculpture without seeing it, taking in the beauty? I say Line 'em up, line 'em all up...
moreover, the stuff's that good... and BB and TLM are by far the lightest of these delicious entrees, and they're still awfully good...
User: fezo | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: I think Neil is just feeling understandable guilt for that god awful "Lets Roll" tune
User: Molly | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: LcPaul, *kisses and many hugs* back to you. I will still send you EMG as soon as it's released. If ya want anything burned drop me a note. If I have it, then I'll be happy to share. ;) As TBC says, it's "One day at a time" for all of us. Today all we really have. The past is gone, and the future may not come to be for us. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers Honeyman.
User: TBC | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: LCpaul - One day at a time brother - Good luck man
User: lcpaul | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Hi everyone
Greetings from the only person from the African continent on this book. In rehab for a while. bbl.
Kisses to Molly and greetings to beerbarian.
Love LCP
User: RudeWaitress | Month: 4 | Day: 24
Message: Damn..Damn..Damn...I didn't realise the chat was down and out..closed for repairs..condemned...and we've been banned from the bluebook chat? I smell anarchy...no, wait..thats todays special I smell..Cyn's favourite.."Moron a la Mode".
psssst..lets just invade the bluechat..and God forbid we have fun and fill it with mirth and not talk about the "boys".
Do ya'll think they'd mind ??
I'll look for another dance hall for this WingDing...Maybe in the Dug-out that my dad built...We'll have a summer smoker underground!
look here for directions.....later
User: Ronald Reagan | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: I don't either:
http://www.musicbox-online.com/ny-pass.html
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: I don't think I remember Neil Young briefly endorsing Reagan. I'm just
glad he doesn't suck up to leaders who rely on politcal insiders in order to have brainless people think of him as God.
Clas-(with apologies to Lady B. for butting in.) Ricky Lawson was a member of the Yellowjackets in the 80's but he then left to join Lionel
Richie for one of his tours. He has never returned to the band. I believe two other drummers have preceded him since. The Yellowjackets, I
believe, now sell their records on their own website after being dropped by their record company.
User: jjeff-two teas, both with sugar, please. | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Neil Young was never political?!? Keep on rockin'
Tones you're sharper than a microtome knife.
User: RudeWaitress | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message:
Keyshawn ..(by the way..whats up with that stupid name?) I just hope you aren't too serious 'bout sticking around here and insulting some of the finer folk on this board...Like eating at the SD Roadkill Cafe and Carwash..it could prove hazardous to yer health and mental well-being (oops, you've already proven that yer mental well being has been compromised). We eat punks like you for breakfast at the cafe...its the "all filler and no substance" part of our extensive menu.
Saturday night in Chat...hosting a going away party for our fav Bad girl..Soooo...Break out your hats and hooters..rev up yer motor scooters..!
oh and yeah...You're not invited, Keyshawn (she says whilst smackin' her gum and retrievin' pencil outta her hair )
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Best Hair Bands -- Midnight Oil, Smashing Pumpkins, Sinead
User: This note's for you... | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Neil Young's Political Rebirth: 'Will I be deported?'
The one-time counter-culture idol turned Reaganite is fed up with
George Bush. And his outspoken views might just get him in trouble.
By Adam Sweeting/The Guardian
It is difficult to find supportive things to say about George Bush unless
your construction company is rebuilding Iraq, but it would be a droll irony
if it was him we have to thank for Neil Young's latest creative renaissance.
"The US is like a baby with a bomb," he barks, his eyes blazing with the
famous stare. "The reaction to France that the administration allowed to
happen is so immature. These people have their own opinion - they're French!
They're not fuckin' Americans, they're French ! Vive la difference, hello?
And this big deal about Bush landing on an aircraft carrier? Talk about a
six-year-old kid with a Tonka toy - we got it here."
After a string of less-than-awesome albums, it is excellent news that Young
has found himself a new itch to scratch. He has never been a political
songwriter, unless you count his 1970 hit single Ohio, but the songs from
his new album, Greendale, take a critical squint at Bush's America through a
small-town keyhole.
He tells his story about the fictional town of Greendale through a variety
of characters, including three generations of the Green family, but the
dominant themes reflect Young's personal concerns. He seems especially fired
up by issues of media intrusion, ecological conservation and illegal
surveillance by government agencies.
"I think the world today, at least the US and to some extent Britain now, is
experiencing this kind of Big Brother thing," he ruminates, the day after
completing his string of solo performances at London's Hammersmith Apollo.
Close up, the Toronto-born Young looks lined and weatherbeaten, but his
mental focus is sharp.
"It's not what we thought we were gonna be doing, a lot of the people's
civil rights have been compromised, and we don't know what's going on. If I
keep speaking my mind, will I be deported? I'm not very happy with the state
of things. Music is being banned, and we have people in control of the radio
stations who are the same people in control of the concert halls. They're
also tied into the [US] administration and are sponsoring pro-war rallies.
It's not good. It's interesting ."
He is referring to the recent Dixie Chicks furore, sparked by singer Natalie
Maines's comment that the band was "ashamed the president of the United
States is from Texas". The Chicks suddenly found that their records weren't
being played on chains of radio stations.
"The real point was, somebody asked the president what he thought and he
said, 'It's America, it's a free country, they can have their opinion, but
there's nothing we can do about it if nobody goes to their shows or plays
their songs,'" Young growls. "But he's so out of touch that his advisers
haven't told him that their record sales spiked upwards when that happened,
and while the airplay went down the sales went up and their concerts all
sold out."
In the mid-1980s, Young, the professional contrarian, endorsed Ronald
Reagan. Today, he sounds more like the songwriter who exploded to stardom
with counter-culture darlings Crosby, Stills and Nash. "It's a robust time,
probably the most fertile time for the underground and for revolution since
Nixon. I'm not talking about political overthrow; I'm talking about just
general cultural revolution. Bush has polarised the country and is creating
this breeding ground for an opposition. In the next couple of months,
they'll probably make it unpatriotic to be Democrat. It's pretty crazy."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,960988,00.html
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Irreverent enough for ya Reverend Jim?
Hehehe...
User: Barney | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: "Blues Beach" sounds very similar to one of the songs from my show.
Can you say Copywright Infringement!
"Thou shalt not plagiarize The Barney Show" - Reverend Jim.
User: Joe Cartwright | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Saddle up the horses Little Joe, it's gonna be a while.
Those Steely Dan boys are still tryin' to teach Hop Sing and the Sheriff
how to play "Pixeleen" on the banjo.
User: Peroxide Blonde | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: I love this site because it's the same color as my hair.
User: Cousin It | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: I've been thinking of starting a hair band myself...
User: Moll | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: BB, Bass..yep I have had beer spilled on me on more than one occasion. ;) It's one of the many reasons I don't go to bars often. lol
Clas, the lady who owns the Tea Room is very sweet. A bit eccentric but nice. She keeps trying to fatten me up and play matchmaker...I know you and Hoops don't get along, but that is between you guys. I like you both.You
Wild Bill, I've found a lovely ivory wedding gown. Off the shoulder, it will show off my newly aquired tan. My Auntie in Louisianna has graceously offered us the use of her garden. I want an outdoor ceremony...the wisteria wafting through the air. We can have reception there as well. The children can run about and play. Of course there will be Zydeco music playing at the reception. ;-)
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Clas: It means exactly what it says. It's only rock and roll. Not to be taken too seriously. Not to be over scrutinized. Not to hero worship.
StAl
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message:
C & W: Quite.
db: I'm with you on that brother!
User: Beerberian homeward bound - nearly | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: BEER & SPILL omg Sacrilege !!!!!! Yeah and Like Football's ONLY a Game ?
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: somethings are more important than cars & girls.
beer & spill not a concept im familiar with is it new ?
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Bassinstinct -
It's not ONLY, strike that word.
"...it's rock and roll baby..."
That's bloody serious shit.
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Molly - a Russian Tea House you say? I'm not surprised.
A Russian Tea House with the Tsar and the Court Jesters.
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message:
C: The very fact that you have to ask speaks volumes.
User: Molly | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: I sometimes visit a coffee house in a nearby city. It's a lively place. One may see a few Elderly and/or Middle-aged people buying their lunch or dinner there. A few Business people might wander in for a cup of coffee..There are always quite a few musicians, poets and students usually hanging about. The Coffe House has music and poetry readings from time to time. From the traffic and unsavory looking characters, I'd guess that someone is dealing there as well. My favorite Waitress is a little beauty that has more body art than most sailors. She also has her nose, eyelid and lip pierced. Jan and the others always make me feel welcome. I can be attired in a severe blue business suit & heels, in my "arty" clothes, or just raggedy jeans, and I am accepted nonetheless. I love it because of it's "anything goes" carnival type ambiance.
I also frequent a Russian Tearoom in another city. The atmosphere is much more formal. The guests there are very different than the folks visiting the coffee house. Very nice, but more subdued. Mainly you see older people and students there. I enjoy the Tearoom's polite amenities.
Banyan Trees's chat room reminds me of my Coffee house in many ways. I've met some wonderful people there; as well as a few lunatics and a few nasty individuals. It's a bit like going to a bar,you get all kinds at St Alphonso's. Except one spills beer on my shoes or blows smoke in my face. We flirt, laugh and talk about everything, from our kids, our gardens etc.. and all sorts of music. Occasionally we even talk about Steely Dan! The love we have for music,( Steely Dan's in particular) is the common bond we share.
I can appreciate than Banyan Trees chat is not everyone's sort of place. We are hardly ever serious. My life demands enough solemnity. I don't want to be serious in my leisure time.
Hoops' chat venue and message board are intended to be more stylized. It's like the Tea room I visit. Sometimes it's nice to go there. I know I will always enjoy chatting with Hoops about Steely Dan. He is very knowledgeable. I usually learn something whenever he and I chat. Yet, I will miss the conviviality of Banyan Trees. M
User: FYI Gina and others | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: FYI the Confessions Taxi player is now streaming Last Mall and Blues beach, whole songs. It says more tracks will be added later
http://www.repriserecords.com/steelydan/player/
look for the "play Songs" link in lower left of taxi window
User: snakehips | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message:
Randy - LOL! (What About Bob)...that's one of my favorite lines ever from a movie!
Tones darling - see...I told you to rent that movie. Move it up on your "Movies I must see" list ;-) You'll love it...and btw, YOU ROCK!
Last, and certainly least, Keyshawn - In the words of the sometimes irrevrent, but always hilarious Bill - BITE ME!
User: C | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: StAl - "...it's only rock and roll baby..."
What the hell is that supposed to mean?
User: lp | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: i'm with st al - i haven't laughed out loud at the yellow in a while - loved the ozzy reference too
so, boz scaggs and rikki releases in the same year - this is a good year for us 70's kids, isn't it?
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Pepperoni and black olives - extra thick crust
Tomorrow it's Steamer Heaven!
I've got Gadd on line 3
User: G. | Month: 4 | Day: 23
Message: Just listened to Last Mall because that seems to be the only thing i know how to get my ears on :-) and it did bring some relief on this hectic day. EMG is something to really look forward to, given the outbursts of excitement here and there in yellow and blue!
Seems to me this time around it's different compared to when they released 2VN. Looking forward to the new release of Rickie Lee Jones as well.
Couldn't be better ...
Banyan Tree Howdy to All GB-folk Bow,
G.
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Lady B - Ricky Lawson? Is he playing with Yellow Jackets?
Tones - Ha!
Lars - expensive pizza boy, that Katz dude.
User: bwaySteve | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: I have been somewhat removed from Dandom the past several months and my visits to the always enjoyable Sunday chat have been brief and few.I knew about the Decade compillation and was excited at the possibility of being a part of it but had no idea how to get a submission to the " assembler".I would love to do my bare bones solo acoustic adaptations of Bad Sneakers or maybe Bodhisattva .I do a couple others from the Decade CD too.Please drop me a line as to whom and where I may do so, saving me hours of catching up on yellow posts which for all their informative value tend to stir me up. I think all the military in Manhattan is getting to me.Despite the numerous adorable young cammo-clad beauties brandishing M-16s protecting my way through Penn Station and contributing to my sense of well being, the Hazmat trucks ( large and small) fortified Jeeps and other signs of " Orange Consciousness" in Times Square are making me neurotic, sapping my creativity and are manifesting in various forms of avoidance and procrastination.
Thanks in advance for pointing me in the right direction and while I'm here, a warm hello to all the bowling nite regulars who gather on Sundays to celebrate diversity in music and the dread of dealing with another Monday.
Please don't unleash the Decade compillation without giving me a shot at a submission.
I wonder how much Virgin is gonna soak me for Everything Must Go ? They have some nerve over there.
Regards,
bwaySteve
User: Boston Rag | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message:
Come to think of it. Donald does look just like Leonard Nimoy on the cover of this month's Downbeat.
Bill - Don't make me set my phaser to stun!
Mark in Boston
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Bill: I laughed out loud at the throwing bats post a few days/weeks ago. I thought it was damn funny, as I do so many of your posts and I'm a SERIOUS STEELY DAN FAN!
Oh wait! I mean, I'm a Steely Dan fan who thinks that is seriously funny! Whew, wouldn't want to be confused with any of them tight-assed Steely Dan fans.
StAL
PS. I also want to go on record that I'm not lumping all Bluebook regulars into this group. Just the ones -- you know -- the ones (very few) who are a little cuckoo..
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Keyshawn: You really outta remove that board shoved up your ass. There is no such thing as a "Serious Steely Dan Fan." Only fans who take Steely Dan way too serious, and those, like us, that understand it's only rock and roll baby...
Oh, and those little quips at the end of Tones' posts are (usually) funny. Problem is you obviously have no sense of humor.
The ones that scare Walter and Donald are you types. This I know. Bill is completely harmless. But I'll bet you thought Sadamm was gonna bomb your house too, so it (meaning you) is a lost cause...
You know, for 8 years I've been dealing with assholes like you. I put up with you because I practice what I preach. This is an open forum and open forums often mean listening to people you don't agree with. Yet, the one thing that galls me is you pussies always hide behind the very anonymity I PROVIDE YOU. You will not face me/us "like a man" because you know you're wrong. You know the tactics you use are chickenshit and you know that I'd shut you down in a new york minute if you had to face me directly. Everyone on this message board knows how to get a hold of me. Shit, you could even find my home address if you tried hard enough.
Point is, I'm not afraid. Why are you? You're welcome to email me directly to discuss your beef. I'm a very reasonable person. However, if you continue to post nothing but trash talk and personal slams, I'm going to ban you from this guestbook. You may be thinking "Big Fat Hairy Deal StAl -- go ahead and ban me!" That's fine, I'm just letting you know up front I'm not going to tolerate it any longer. You're not playing fair so why should I?
StAl
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Uh, Keyshawn...
I never said I would throw beer cans at Walter during the Jones Beach
show. I'm not saying that I won't, I'm just saying that I never said it.
What I said was that I might throw popcorn at Walter during the show.
Oh, and I might toss a few rubber bats on stage like they do at the
Ozzie Ozbourne shows that's all. What's wrong with that?
********* NOTE **********
The preceding was an example of a Steely Dan fan joking around and
having fun. Don't try this at home Reverend Jim.
User: ymroW | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: top ten reasons Don and Walt are not Captian Kirk and Spock
11) more Roland Kirk than Captian
10) this ain't no Enterprise,it's an Institution
9) trecky / dan ites
8) tranny / deck ites no siree
7) Spock would never have logically plotted a Cleveland amphibious invasion
6) dime dancing don't lead to altar calls
5) in a galaxy far away... or was that... in a recluse studio 70's LA
4) these are the voyages of the starred ship Dan delize
3) it's mission to seek out new musical forms
2) "to boldly go" where Miles and Stax had only hinted at
1) or was that to "rescue a dreary sunday"
User: keyshaw who ric shaw boy! | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: go back to light jazz and the boys.
User: button of the week: | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Will share dark thoughts for food.
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Even if it were true that Aja would rather see the Steely Damned instead of the "real thing," (and of course its not) so what? Her musical opinions are as valid as Greil Marcus, Robert Hilburn, Dave Marsh or you. Why try to insult her? There's no pleasure to be gained by trying to be mean.
User: t | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Yes "Key," I'm saying you're WRONG, and I don't have to be God to know it...
and here's your one liner:
ya loser.
User: t | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Speaking of other music (hi Aj!), there's an article in the lastest Downbeat with Don and Walt on the cover about Arto Lindsey, aho I've raved about a few times here in the past. I *absolutely* recommend checking out his music, especially his last three albums: Noon Chill, Prize, and Invoke. Great stuff, and well recorded... If I had to sum it up I'd call it New York/Brazillian/Porteguese/ art-"rock" with casually profound lyrics... very cool...
steviedan - I know next to nothing about classical, though I finally saw Amadeus a few months ago... One piece I have been drawn to is Satie's Les Trois GymnopTdies... ever since I was a kid and heard it on a commercial I've loved it. It has a simple forlorn quality to the melody that really moves me. I love that piece. That and the theme to the Young and the Restless...
(hmmm.. will they know I'm kidding if I don't type anything...?)
User: Keyshawn | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: tones- So you're are saying that my opinion is wrong? Who made you God? You and Bill make a good team...remember "shit sticks together"
Oh yeah...your little tongue and cheek one liners to end all of your posts aren't the least bit funny.
tones: SLANG ME!
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: i love steely dan & have a life.
explain that bill.
User: t | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Keyshawn - you agreeing with that statement makes you wrong *and* asinine (as well as over-rated as a wide receiver), as if you or anyone else is qualified to know what a "steely dan fan" is... And it really just shows you are incredibly narrow-minded, and most *real* steely dan fans aren't. That's not opinion, that's fact.
go back to your glee-club...
"dog"
personally, I have nothing against the blue, but I'd rather share an elevator with Bill than with some of the weenies (like Keyshawn) over there...
Of course, I'm hoping it's only a 2 story building...
User: Weber | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: And that last post is from someone who would rather go see The Steely Damned then the real thing. Who should get a life aja?
User: Aja............................not@work | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Actually, the GB is for people who like Steely Dan, lots of OTHER music (*gasp* there's other music out there?), and have LIVES to go with it all.
Aja
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Bill: depends whose cheek it is.
Jimbo: Heard Annika outdrove her male partners...these wimps on the course today with their manicured courses, their 6 ft long Killer Bee drivers, their massive head perimeter weighted irons...Hell, I swing the club like it was a f**ing axe and can still drive nearly 300 yds with today's technology and I play twice a year whether I need it or not... Accuracy off the tee, mental toughness, good mechanics, and within 100 yds of the hole are 90% of golf...they've forgotten what it's like to play with teeny tiny head blade clubs with wooden or straight steel shafts, lo tech golf balls that flew like a rock...I'd like to see these wusses line-drive a slice around a tree bounce is 20 yds in front of the green and roll it on like Lee Trevino 30 years ago or Jack Nicklaus drawing a 3 wood 270 yeds to the green with persimmon rather than a titanium alloy...the next US Open should be played on the Tin Cup course in west Texas in a 35 mph wind in a duststorm while former Dallas Cowboys randomly tackle golfers on the tees...now THAT's golf!!!!!
User: Keyshawn | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: tones (waaaaaz up dog!) I happen to agree with who ever said that "you can't be a Steely Dan fan if you don't like the Last Mall". Hey, we all have opinions...right? I agree 100% with this statement. As far as Bill goes..oh please. This is the same guy who says he's going to throw beer cans at Walter Becker whiles he's on stage at Jones Beach. Now, since he's been booted from the Blue Book, Bill is getting all philosophical about the music of Steely Dan. In all reality, fans like Bill are the ones scaring Donald and Walter half to death.
Let's face it, the Bluebook is for serious Steely Dan fans (ask St.Al) and the yellow book is for the casual fan who would rather be discussing what they ate for breakfast.
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User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Latest update from the OED...
New definition for ''MOAB''
it now simply states ''see godwhacker'' steely dan emg.
User: tones | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Bill - I don't know about the "reverend Jim" stuff, but generally I agree with you. The asinine comments like "if you don't like 'The Last Mall' then you can't be a Steely Dan fan" bring the whole conversation down to the level of N*Sync worship. That stuff gets old *real* fast.
Unless we're talking about Clas not liking "Aja" of course...
toungue firmly in cheek...
t
User: Randy | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message:
"Some people say Jesus / that's the ace in the hole / but I never met the man / so I don't really know..." - Paul Simon, 'Ace In The Hole'
Randy
NIGHTFLY**@aol.com
User: Randy | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message:
"There are two types of people in this world: those who like Neil Diamond, and those who don't." - Bill Murray, 'What About Bob?'
Randy
NIGHTFLY**@aol.com
User: LadyBayside | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Hi, blah, blah, blah...
Frantically trying to get everything accomplished before I leave for Florida day after tomorrow. I just had someone give me a concert listing for the Planting Field Arboretum in Oyster Bay, Long Island, and to my surprise, the YELLOWJACKETS are playing there in either July or August. Tickets will be available on Ticketbastard (but are fairly reasonable at 45/35/20, I think). I know Ricky Lawson drummed with them...and I got to see them last year at JazzFest...they were wonderful.
Tangentially Dan...
I worship, but I'm not Catholic about it.
LadyB
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Okay it's time to vent a little bit...
After my little excursion over to Bluebook land I've come to the
conclusion that there are basically two types of SD fans.
There are those who think that SD is a musical act who've made an
important contribution to popular music, and there are those who think that Steely Dan is a religion and that the founders should be viewed
with total reverence like some kind of gods on earth.
For those who subscribe to the "Steely Dan is a religion" philosophy,
there is no room for irreverence when discussing the work of Donald Fagen
and Walter Becker. There is also no room for the discussion of anything
else but Steely Dan. Steely Dan is to be our reason for being and we must
worship the Steely Dan scriptures without deviation. Of course most
reasonable people would discard this philosophy as the synergy of cult
philosophy and art, but not the faithful followers of Reverend Jim of
The Bluebook. To them, everything in the universe revolves around this
band. Donald and Walter are Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock and thier followers
are nothing more than Trekkies with thier notebooks at the ready waiting
for the words of enlightenment to flow from the lips of the founders.
Rediculous isn't it? Of course it is...
Anyone who has listened to the music of Steely Dan for any legnth of time
knows that Donald and Walter have a tremendous sense of humour. Even the
song "The Last Mall" is basically tongue-in-cheek. Think about it, isn't
there a fair amount of irony between the music and the lyrics of this
song? I mean shopping isn't necessarily something to get worked up about
is it? But the song would seem to indicate so. That's funny in my opinion.
Not so to Reverend Jim. To Reverend Jim it means something deeper. It's
something holy. It's something not to be fucked with. Got it?
Steely Dan fans are some of the most intelligent fans in modern music
and it's for this reason that the subjects on this board don't always
seem to be about Steely Dan directly. This board seems to be more about
the general thought processes of the fandom in general, and by discussing
other subjects the contributors are displaying thier multi-dimensional
selves. That's what makes this place interesting. That's what makes
Steely Dan interesting.
Let's try to remember that Steely Dan is a musical act and not a religion.
It's a musical act that has no doubt made a very important contribution
to the art of music in general and it deserves to be viewed that way,
but let's not get so carried away in our love for it that we lose
ourselves in the process.
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Word to Vijay Singh, Nick Price and Charles Barkley: ANNIKA! ANNIKA! ANNIKA!
Just saw the third confessionals. Lizzie does make a lot of sense in terms of the statement of musical influence. You think she checks out this GB?
User: re Katz | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Quite the contrary, Lars.
User: Lars | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Gary Katz please come back - everything is forgiven! It's now clear to me (and most of the rest of Dandom) that ordering pizzas has an huge impact on the soundscape.
L
User: Hank Silvers | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Folks, David Moore's Clockdrive World is full of music that sounds good anytime, but especially (IMO) cruising down the highway on a warm summer day. There are going to be a lot of those this summer, so prepare yourself for them. A link to his site is above.
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: W1P? - good.
User: Clas | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Fla David - look, I am not doing this for ME. If you want to send me another song from Clock Drive - that would be great.
You'll find my address at the link above.
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Beerb - nah, well, fair enough. But something vital got lost in the translation.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Beer: I thought babelfish demanded Pay for services...lol... Until I heard Snowbound and Book of Liars when listening to those albums for the first time...I was thinking "resale!" ...but I grew to love 'em...and the last half of Kama is immediately hooky...
not the case for EMG which seems a Steely Dan continuation of a path forged in the Nightfly, except they go back to the 40s to snag musical ideas for their latest alloy...and it's an exit or two down that road...
I had a dream last night and heard Things I Miss the Most in High Fidelity...whoopeeee!
LEVEL 4 WARNING: Mr. Sting has a New One coming out in September...a single in June or July...no more details...too much to do...guess he needs a new Jaguar or castle...
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: C -- I'm in discussion with my band "Tortfeasor" http://hometown.aol.com/wch1ispink/tortfeasor.html -- the candidates are Any Major Dude, Pearl of the Quarter, Haitain Divorce or Don't Take Me Alive. I promise you that I will make a decision soon -- this is not languishing on the back burner.
User: Beerssensen | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Lars is it not beautiful to know that the lean doctor am addressing all to adjust when the am counting Katz role in output and tell for yourself that you have fault when yous is disappointment them fresh Steely Dan ltarna? The is clearly that Katz had one finger with in ljudbilden. There is no chance that skivorna was bending lta different when Kamakiriad and 11 Tracks of whack arrived ? Album as them others was generating.
WTF?
User: WJAZ | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: just ordered "Clockdrive World"...should have a long time ago...
User: Floridavid | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Clas, Sorry I didn't give you an answer. here's the deal. On the first 3 GB compilation CD's I contributed songs from my "Clockdrive World" CD.
My goal was to see If it would spark others to Purchase the Whole Album of Originals.After all this is my business, not my Hobby. I have other hobbies. This Spark didn't really happen and that's ok...it's in it's second pressing and has done very well for me. As it continues to Sell on my Gigs and on my website as well as CDstreet.Com
If you would like to use another song from that CD you're welcome to. I'm currently in the process of writing and recording a new CD of Originals as well as a "Live At the Pierside" CD of Peoples favorite Covers I do at my weekly Gigs at Ft. Myers beach.The Live CD is actually the first of a series I'm producing for other performers who work at "The Pierside" This all takes a lot of time because I do work as a Solo. The Logistics are Crazy.
Anyway, Let me know If you're short on songs and need some Filler Material...I'll pick another from "Clockdrive World" for you.
Thanks, David
User: jon | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Thanks SACW and angel for Katz references. And also to qwerty for Lukather amplification--my bad. For some reason I thought he showed on a Fagen outing at one juncture.
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Thanks Molly.
User: Moll | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Clas, I'll drop Steve a note and tell him to get in touch with you. We are friends. I guess that "Sugarman" stuff works! *wink* He did a great job on Caves; the guitar work on it is excellent. I did contact Danorak from Scotland for you as well. No word from Zan or Jake either? Perhaps they are all too busy persuing their own things right now. Best wishes on your project.
Off to do some bouldering now.... M
User: CL @ w | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: And W1P?, what song(s) are you gonna submit?
Think it over. Time passes much too quickly, ooops, then we have Autumn.
Brett
Roy Scam
Hutch
Gina
Clas
Jaydubz
Howard
and the covers:
Stevee
W1P?
Those are in.
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How it will be with Fla david, YGK and Miz Ducky, that's up to them. I have asked them, they don't bother to answer, so they will probably not be with us this 4th time around.
Anyone having the mailaddress to the guy who made Caves so great last year?
User: C @ W | Month: 4 | Day: 22
Message: Sorry Stevee - it's STEVEE.
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Lars - Sr det inte sk÷nt att veta att den gode doktorn stSller allt till rStta nSr det gSller Katz roll i produktionen och berSttar f÷r dig att du har fel nSr du Sr besviken ps dom ny Steely Dan-lstarna?
Det Sr klart att Katz hade ett finger med i ljudbilden. Det Sr ingen tillfSllighet att skivorna b÷rjade lsta annorlunda nSr Kamakiriad och 11 Tracks kom, eller hur? Album som dom sjSlva producerade.
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Beerberian - try that one.
User: Clas | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: Hi Steeve - it's not me who decides what songs are going to end up on the next GBook CD. You have to choose the one your band is going to submit.
I just want to push things here, the deadline is set to Oct 2003.
While we're waiting, we can listen to Gina feat Steadysession and Short Fuse "Out of Line":
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/sketchesandstrangeloops
At the bottom of the page. It's a pretty cool song.
(or push the link above)
User: SteveeDan | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: Clas (Post 1600) ...
"SteveeDan, W1p? - I need to know what covers you are going to submit to the GBook CD, I have to have a talk with NCB."
Is there a list to choose from? We've got over 40 Steely Dan tunes at performance level in the can ... many of them we have already multi-tracked in the studio ... and hey would you be interested in a live version? We've got a lot of those available too. Give me a better idea of what you are requesting and I will do my best to live up to it.
Sorry for the delay in responding to this post of yours ... I've been busy buying Steely Dan tickets and setting up the summer season for our band.
At this point I am still about 200 posts back of present ...
SteveeDan
User: qwerty | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: Maybe so St. Al but without doubt he is the natural occupant of the SD drum throne, with someone as gifted as he is undoubtedly there will be an ego to come with it. Alot of the later SD sound is because of him, take royal scam, aja and gaucho the guy is a genius, though youre probably right it may not work, still musically he is the best man for the job
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: >Maybe SD could use purdie as part of the touring musicians
My understanding is Purdie's head wont fit inside the tour bus so they had to find an alternate drummer.
StAl
User: qwerty | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: Sorry to be picky but I think I should be on this particular one, in jon's list of notables he added steve lukather. Although luke was taught by larry carlton you'll find he never once graced a steely dan album though he probably should of considering all his skills but alas. Maybe SD could consider him for any future work cause he could probably bring back the nasty strident guitar parts that SD have been missing since the royal scam, now youre gonna get angry at that but breathe deeply, consider what I just said and now think, uh huh, youre nodding your head now knowing I'm right, see I told you so. Maybe SD could use purdie as part of the touring musicians, I don't understand why they haven't he is the best man for the job for sure. Take care GB'ers and have fun
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: angel: Great sleuthing... haven't seen that one in years
Here's the critical part of this particular interview with Dennis McNamara of WLIR New York:
Katz: "...because I really have nothing to do with creating the music as such. I really don't."
DM:- You produce it.
Katz: "Yes, but I don't write it or arrange it. Once the music is written and somewhat put together by Donald and Walter, then it becomes a three man operation and choosing players and places and things we're gonna do and how we'll do it, but they create the music entirely..."
...and in another interview - I've long lost the URL Gary Katz mentioned that he was not a knob guy...not to say Katz was not an important part of the team - he was a facitator and had his influece in mainly helping to find and bring in the musicians...
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: Little Dan related update, both having been discussed here:
Elvis Costello is currently dating Diana Krall. They have been seen stepping out together at this year's Grammy's, and at London benefit in February performing a duet of Elton John's "Sorry Seems to be the Hardest Word." Krall says about their relationship "It has been great, and I'm very happy." Costello, who is celebrating his first new recording in seven years, When I was Cruel(Universal), will be performing at Central Park Summerstage on July 11 in Central Park in New York City. Tickets are $50 and all proceeds go to the City Parks Foundation Fund.Ani DiFranco will be playing on July16, followed by the White Stripes, Indigo Girls and Aimee Mann playing with Ben Folds Five in upcoming weeks. www.SummerStage.org
(excerpted from JAZZIZ - 5/21/03)
User: Duncan | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: Relax everybody EMG is BANG ON !!!!
Standout tracks Green Book & EMG Either of which is worth the purchase price alone.
Thankyou Wonald & Dalter you've made a bad speller very happy.
(beware there's high notes on some tracks that may upset the pets)
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: Confused: Here's a bit of Katz reading for you. Click the link above or copy this:
http://www.granatino.com/sdresource/17katz.htm
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: Confused: the sources are Gary Katz in interviews and also Fagen and Becker...I used to subscribe to Lars' theory ages ago, but the preponderance of evidence indicates otherwise, so I've changed my mind around 2000 when many old and new interviews surfaced and resurfaced...
The role of the Producer varies widely. Some like Mutt Lange with Def Leppard or Shania control virtually every aspect of the sound and are knob tweakers. There are more knob twekaers with the Boy and Giirl bands popular lately. Quincy Jones knew how to set up a sound and did some knob tweaking and arranging, but not all....his jazz heritage was crucial. Others arrange the business aspect and leave the musicians alone. A producer usually adds another ear, objective or not... I'm saying that Katz learned from Walter and Donald, not the other way around - I don't have the albums in front of me, but I wouldn't be surprised if Katz used Roger Nichols and the same engineers on Eye to Eye and Laura Nyro.
Based on the evidence, Katz mainly influenced the sound by hiring musicians, mostly ones that Walter and Donald wanted. He just hired the same guys for Eye to Eye (including Fagen) and said play like Steely Dan or something - now neither the Eye to Eye nor Laura Nyro's albums sound any more like Steely Dan than Toto, but having the same musicians all the way around, they're in the same genre...certainly TvN sounds more like Steely Dan than Larua Nyro's Walk the Dog...album...
I think what Lars is thinking about is the open acoustic effect. Frankly they haven't used piano lead that much since Katy Lied except for SiS, Aja (title cut), Home at Last, solo on Glamour Profession, TOOM...and unfortunately Omartian is born again and Porcaro's in Drummer Heaven...However, case in point - the songs Walter produced on China Crisis' Diary of a Hollow Horse or to a lesser extent Flaunt the Imperfection sound like fully gleaned Gaucho or Aja outtakes!!!!!!...a producer who consistently uses the acoustic big sound approach is Tommy LaPuma - he produces Diana Krall and you can hear him head to head with Walter on Michael Franks' Blue Pacific. since LaPuma used Joe Sample and Larry Carlton - those tracks have a Dan-like or Nightfly-like quality...
In summary, it's a combination of what Donald and Walter want and the musicians they use...If a quintessential Steely Dan line-up of Procaro, Omartian, Rainey, Carton were possible today - EMG MIGHT sound a little more like Aja...But it wouldn't be as weird - and that's one of the things I like about EMG...
It sounds like this time around they've deconstructed the great American musical styles of the 20th Century (Ben Folds used this approach on the first BFF album) and then put it back together in a surreal way....The results of course are much different than BFF, because Donald and Walter are much different and have a better band (including themselves) in part I hear a continuation of ideas that were progressing in Gaucho and the Nightfly...whereas TvN represented just going back to the cool jazz and funk basics with some nice interaction between instrument voices...
Yes, Walter absolutely stars on this album!
User: Confused | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: If you don't mind me asking, where are you guys (SACW and joe blue) getting your information such that you can categorically state that Katz had zero input into the SD sound. Just curious. Is there some source material that you guys are privy to which you could direct me to?
I only ask because I've been following the group with intense interest for 30 years and don't recall getting a sense of definitive roles played by the principals involved.
SACW--you say that Katz "...was smart enough to get the same musicians to play in a similar styleà" Well isn't that what a producer does?
User: Beerberian | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: StevieD; The Gabriel Players were/are ...
Melanie Gabriel
Backing Vocals
David Rhodes
Frudua electric, Fender JazzMaster, Fernandez electric,Gibson Les Paul, Neptune Baritone, Backing Vocals
Tony Levin
Music Man 5 String Sting Ray Bass, NS Electric Upright, NS Electric Cello, Music Man Fretless 4 String, Gibson EB2, Nord Bass Backing Vocals
Richard Evans
Godin Mandolin, Rickenbacker 12 String, Dave King Acoustic, Dave King 12 String, Dave King Dobro, Overton whistles, Backing Vocals
Rachel Z
Kurzweil 2600 keyboards, Korg Triton Keyboards, Backing Vocals
Ged Lynch
Drums, Percussion, Congas, Drum Kit
Fine Sounding & Dancing Outfit
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: Steven CT: I LOVE BB as well - dig the late 60s Sly and the Family Stone pop thing - but that's a testament to how good this album is...if BB is the weakest recroding. we'll hear it on the 10th!
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: Joe Blue - That's correct. Katz set them up with the record co. Helped recruit the band, and facilitated the revolving door policy of musicians during the studio rat years, but he had not much to mdo with the sound...but he was smart enough to get the same musicians to play in a similar style on Eye to Eye and Laura Nyro - but he didn't touch the knobs...Steely Dan sounds the way Walter and Donald want it to sound...
Howard - good observations regarding TvN and EMG. I don't think EMG will be as dry as your think - TvN on DVD-A is pretty lush, but not as open as Gaucho or Aja. The first half ofKama on CD is DRY...
re: terrorists comments. Life's a Poisson distribution. There are hundreds of attacks world wide each year. There were hundreds less up to now than for the same period in 2000. That's a documented fact. The media always cherry picks these things in its world wide coverage I'm not surprised to see Al Qaeda give it one last go...but their supply of money and resources is drying up. It is not a complete coincidence that the bombings in Israel concide with the Saudi and Moroccon bombings. While they are not Directly connected there's a loose association. However, targeting Riyadh is backfiring already...they'll probably try to take a pop at the us or Britain soon...but over time (measured in yearly increments) I believe with dedication, the number of attacks will continue to decrease...I'd still feel more comfortable with Rudy G in charge of homeland security than Ridge...our borders are way too leaky...
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: I feel a bit left out having only heard a bit of Godwhacker and lots of TLM and BB.
I have to say that 'Blues Beach'is a great tune. Somebody mentioned summer beach music (or maybe it was just one of the voices in my head). I can hear BB blasting from the transistors and boomboxes now, although it will sound better on a primo sound system. I love the sound on the background singers' voices. The first time one of the angels sings,"chillin'" it sounds so cool. Then each of the girls seems to take a line, each expressing her own personality and style and it all works so well. Super-funky.
User: leaving lost wages | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: the next steely dan confessional is available
http://www.repriserecords.com/steelydan/player/
more lizzie
User: joe blue | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: Gary Katz primary role was to hire and fire the session musicians that Donald and Walter wanted to work with. He also was in charge of running interference between D&W and the record company. He had no input into the Steely Dan sound.
User: Joe Murtha | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: Fellow Dan fans,
1. Attention all shoppers! Available now from StAl's Banyan Trees software site, it's the all new Steely Dan - Everything Must Go screensaver - for Windows 95, 98, ME and XP. Download it now, it's FREE! It's another sweetheart sunset special - and it features all of the standard stuff...
2. For those of you who have upgraded to a faster PC and/or WindowsXP over the last several years, there is also a new and improved 2VN screensaver available for download at that same site.
3. Coming soon û Rev. 3.00 of the CDSD featuring more sidemen bioÆs, articles, sound files, photoÆs and tons of stuff from Everything Must Go.
Joe Murtha
User: jon | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: I can't believe that all Katz did as SD's producer was order up take out, especially when you give a listen to the other groups he gets producer credit on, notably Eye to Eye who sound eerily similar to our boys and included such notables as Elliot Randall, Larry Carlton, Jeff Porcaro, Steve Lukather and Rick Derringer.
Godwhacker and Lunch With Gina are my top 2.
User: Cyn | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: ok..I'm cleaning out my comp before I turn it over to my nephew...this is for all of us traveling here...and no I haven't heard any cuts from EMG..but will but as soon as it hits the UK.
>>All too rarely, Australian airline attendants make an effort to make the
>>in-flight "safety lecture" and their other announcements
>>a bit more entertaining. Here are some real examples that have been heard
>>or reported:
>>
>>On an Air NZ Flight with a very "senior" flight attendant crew, the
>>pilot said, "Ladies and gentlemen, we've reached cruising altitude
>>and will be turning down the cabin lights. This is for your comfort
>>and to enhance the appearance of your flight attendants."
>>--------------
>>On landing the hostess said, "Please be sure to take all your
>>belongings. If you're going to leave anything, please make sure it's
>>something we'd like to have."
>>--------------
>>"There may be 50 ways to leave your lover, but there are only 4 ways
>>to leave the aircraft."
>> --------------
>>As the plane landed and was coming to a stop at Auckland, a lone
>>voice came over the loudspeaker: "Whoa, big fella. WHOA!"
>> --------------
>>After a particularly rough landing during thunderstorms in Adelaide,
>>a flight attendant on a Qantas flight announced, "Please take care
>>when opening the overhead compartments because, after a landing like
>>that, sure as f*** everything has shifted."
>>--------------
>>From a Qantas employee: "Welcome aboard Qantas Flight XXX to YYY.
>>To operate your seat belt, insert the metal tab into the buckle, and
>>pull tight. It works just like every other seat belt; and, if you
>>don't know how to operate one, you probably shouldn't be out in
>>public unsupervised."
>>--------------
>>"In the event of a sudden loss of cabin pressure, masks will descend
>>from the ceiling. Stop screaming, grab the mask, and pull it over
>>your face. If you have a small child travelling with you, secure
>>your mask before assisting with theirs. If you are travelling with
>>more than one small child, pick your favourite.
>>--------------
>>"Weather at our destination is 32 degrees with some broken clouds,
>>but we'll try to have them fixed before we arrive. Thank you, and
>>remember, nobody loves you, or your money, more than Qantas
>>Airlines."
>> --------------
>>"Your seat cushions can be used for flotation; and in the event of
>>an emergency water landing, please paddle to shore and take them
>> with our compliments."
>> --------------
>> "Should the cabin lose pressure, oxygen masks will drop from the
>> overhead area. Please place the bag over your own mouth and nose
>> before assisting children... or other adults acting like children."
>> --------------
>> Heard on Qantas Airlines just after a very hard landing in Hobart:
>>The flight attendant came on the intercom and said, "That was quite
>> a bump, and I know what you are all thinking. I'm here to tell you
>> it wasn't the airline's fault, it wasn't the pilot's fault, it
>> wasn't the flight attendant's fault... it was the asphalt!"
>> --------------
>> Another flight attendant's comment on a less than perfect landing:
>>"We ask you to please remain seated as Captain Kangaroo bounces us
>> to the terminal."
>> --------------
>> An airline pilot wrote that on this particular flight he had
>> hammered his ship into the runway really hard. The airline had a
>> policy which required the first officer to stand at the door while
>> the passengers exited, smile, and give them a "Thanks for flying
>> United. "He said that, in light of his bad landing, he had a hard
>> time looking the passengers in the eye, thinking that someone would
>> have a smart comment. Finally everyone had got off except for an old
>> lady walking with a cane. She said,"Sonny, mind if I ask you a
>> question?" "Why no Ma'am," said the pilot. "What is it?" The little
>> old lady said, "Did we land or were we shot down?"
>>--------------
>> After a real crusher of a landing in Sydney, the Flight Attendant
>> came on with, "Ladies and Gentlemen, please remain in your seats
>> until Capt. Crash and the Crew have brought the aircraft to a
>>screeching halt against the gate. And, once the tire smoke has
>> cleared and the warning bells are silenced, we'll open the door and
>> you can pick your way through the wreckage to the terminal."
>> --------------
>> Part of a flight attendant's arrival announcement: "We'd like to
>> thank you folks for flying with us today. And, the next time you get
>> the insane urge to go blasting through the skies in a pressurised
>> metal tube, we hope you'll think of Qantas."
>> --------------
>> A plane was taking off from Mascot Airport. After it reached a
>> comfortable cruising altitude, the captain made an announcement over
>> the intercom, "Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking.
>> Welcome to Flight Number XYZ, non-stop from Sydney to Auckland. The
>> weather ahead is good and, therefore, we should have smooth and
>> uneventful flight. Now sit back and relax - SHIT! ARGHHH! OH, MY
>> GOD!" Silence followed and after a few minutes, the captain came
>>back on the intercom and said, "Ladies and Gentlemen, I am so sorry
>> if I scared you earlier, but, while I was talking, the flight
>>attendant brought me a cup of coffee and spilled the hot coffee in
>> my lap. You should see the front of my pants!" A passenger in
>> Economy said, "That's nothing. He should see the back of mine!"
User: Cyn | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message: ..I love this joke...hahahahaha!!>>
This guy sees a sign in front of a house "Talking Dog for Sale." He
>>rings the bell and the owner tells him the dog is in the back yard. The
>>guy goes into the back yard and sees a mutt sitting there. "You talk?"
>>he asks.
>>"Yep," the mutt replies.
>>"So, what's your story?"
>>The mutt looks up and says, "Well, I discovered this gift pretty young
>>and I wanted to help the government, so I told the CIA about my gift,
>>and in no time they had me jetting from country to country, sitting in
>>rooms with spies and world leader, cause no one figured a dog would be
>>eavesdropping.
>>I was one of their most valuable spies eight years running. The jetting
>>around really tired me out, and I knew I wasn't getting any younger and
>>I wanted to settle down. So I signed up for a job at the airport to do
>>some undercover security work, mostly wandering near suspicious
>>characters and listening in. I uncovered some incredible dealings there
>>and was awarded a batch of medals. Had a wife, a mess of puppies, and
>>now I'm just retired."
>>The guy is amazed. He goes back in and asks the owner what he wants for
>>the dog. The owner says "Ten dollars." The guy says he'll buy him but
>>asks the owner, "This dog is amazing. Why on earth are you selling him
>>for $10?"
>>The owner replies, "He's such fucking liar."
>>
>
User: Howard | Month: 4 | Day: 21
Message:
Much as I love the lush and rich sound of Scam/Aja/Gaucho, I actually like the new drier and tighter sound of 2VN and EMG. It's a progression anyway - just as they are coming up with new chords, new styles of arrangement, different melodic styles - and not just rehashing tried and tested ways of writing - they are trying new sounds and production. These guys are still exploring and creating new stuff, that's what I like. As with all greats, they continually look for newere, better, more interesting ways of doing things. The fact that they do this and can still come up with superb tracks is a tribute to their talents.
... although a couple of tracks do end with very lush chords on keyboards (phased Rhodes and all) which reminds me somewhat of Gaucho.
Having listened to the tracks a few times, it's pretty clear that Blues Beach is (for me) the weakest track, just as Dupree was on 2VN. Pixeleen, Lunch with Gina, Green Book and EMG all sound great, and I'm sure they'll sound better after 10 or 15 listens.
Some nicely quirky openings to the melodies on a few tracks too - continuing the 2VN idea they talked about (in an interview somewhere...) of avoiding the "obvious melodic notes" and trying to write melodies that use the 2nd or 4th of the scale more than than is common. Quirky, but it sounds good.
Someone on the Blue mentioned that the opening of EMG reminded him of Mingus. To me, it has a bit of the flavour of the start of Coltrane's Love Supreme. But then again, I haven't heard much Mingus...
Howard
P.S Is it just me, or have terrorist attacks increased by about 60% since that figure was last used here? Two attacks in Chechnya, attacks in Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Israel, more attacks threatening in Saudi Arabia, US threat level increase to orange...
User: steviedan | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: beerberian, nice play by play on g ! blind boys of alabama to BOOT ! only one other thing: who was in g's touring band ? specifically, was manu katche drumming ? tony levin bassing ? if you caught the intros...
was really hoping to get a sampling of the classical composers preferred by true dan afficianados...
that is, if you guys can stop alternatively bootlegging and gushing for a minute !!!
"steviedan album of the week"(TM) is a dvd: "steve morse: sects, dregs, & rnr" i don't think that nick dude that was slagging the "don't take me alive" solo would like it, though. dextrousness ABOUNDS !
User: C @ W | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Lars - yes, I miss Katz too. I don't like to be negative, but this stuff aint doing it for me.
As you say, we're growing old.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Things I miss the most....another listen to the album. Sigh.
---------------------------------------------
A couple of quick quotes from Downbeat Magazine (on sale now). :-)
The Coyote on the ODP explained.
According to Downbeat Magazine, Becker and Fagen were interviewed in LA earlier in the year. The week before the interview, Walter had picked up a plastic figurine of a howling coyote. "He's going to be a mascot for a new fusion label," Becker Smirks.
September 11, which came in the midst of the album's working process in Manhattan, had its impact, as well. "We were reminded anew of the impermanence of certain, seemingly permanent things, the erosion of order into chaos, and so on." Becker Says.
"We didn't have to go too far out of our way to get that (EMG), by the way," Fagen admits. Becker says, "We could make a compilation right now of apocalyptic songs from all our albums."
--------------------------------------------
Speaking of Apocalyptic Songs....Why do I feel a return of "King of the World", for this tour. How about as show opener, with a reworked cool open, a la "The Boston Rag".
Andy: Spent some time this afternoon checking out your site. The interview with Kenny Vance, was very enlightening. :-)
User: SteveeDamn | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Is EMG in it's entirety still up anywhere?
YGK posted: " ... Bluebook States it's still up:
http://www.msnbc.com/m/mw/mw.asp?0mw=xh68&sk=msn&id=msn/6247&subid=Music&name=cover&pl=
with no breaks ... "
I've got DSL and I've been waiting for this thing to load for about 5 minutes ... and ... nothing.
Figures I didn't check in YESTERDAY !!!
SteveeDamn
User: Moll | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: BB, I'm sooooooo jealous! Thanks for sharing your experience. It sounds wonderful. Still no trip to U.K. for me at the moment. :-( *hugs* Say "hi" to Fingers for me.
*sighs* DACW aka Dr. Mu, well Sugar it would have been lovely to meet you and Mrs.Mu.. Perhaps another time. I'll be in Corpus Christi and El Paso in the coming months. The only thing I'll be drinking is iced tea or Johnny Walker red label though.
Duncan, Hi! Hope things are well your way.. *hugs* Please say hello to Linda and kiss the little man for me. I still dream of you climbing with me.
Lars, I LOVE Boz Scagg's new CD. You have excellent taste in music BTW ;-)
Alas, I haven't heard anything except Blues Beach and The Last Mall or seen the video clip that y'all have been raving about. I have made an oath not to go near a computer,telephone etc.. for the past few weeks. It was great.
User: Beerberian | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: jjeff; I'm so envious of anyone yet to experience it AND Experience is the word .....
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Katz never touched a knob - he said so himself...he ordered pizzas and kept the pencil-necked record exec. weasels off their necks at all times...I got one and you want four...
There are cymbals all over TLM - Carlock will satisfy on all tracks on hi fi
What I've heard so far makes excellent use of space in the Nightfly tradition...
Predictions....MORRRTTTONNNN!!! "EMG on DVD-A will be the greatest recording of all time"
User: jjeff- Drowning here in summer's cauldren | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Got back from Arizona last week. A great place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. I'm used to not worrying about poisonous things on the ground or sharp plants,and that incredible Phoenix heat! The people were very friendly, except when behind a wheel. Maybe it's the recycled air.
Beeberian: Thanks for the review. I've got tix for Montreal July 6.Anticipation only increases with little hints. You sound like real participant at a concert. Me too. I think it's closely related to the Charismatic's,"speaking in tongues", but a little more controlled.
All SD tour dates are out for me,so far. It's gotta be,A.the weekend B.in New England,and C.on a weekend I'm not scheduled to work. What a shame...
I appreciate all concert reviews, please.
User: Lars | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: There¦s a review in Mojo on the New One that ends up with a 4/5 star. Fine, but "as fine as their Two against Nature comeback was , the absence of their '70s producer Gary Katz - the man presumably at least partly responsible for the lush sonics of latterday Dan masterpieces Aja and Gaucho - was noted. The new music was drier, lighter, tougher perhaps, but thinner, less glamorous."
I agree - who needs another Kama? The bass and drums lacks (as I can hear it from the MSNsite) space and where the hell is the grand piano and who took the cymbals from the drummer? Almost every tune would be better with Katz' (old time) production, at least to my ears. Too dry for me. Or maybe I'm just growing old ... .
Boz Scaggs on the other hand, makes me happy doin those standards on HIS new one - But Beautiful. A must!
L
User: sorry about this... but | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Clas reach for your pampers
dye ard with a venantz is on NOW !!!!
(GMT UK Only)
LOL, bye the way thanks for the biggest laugh all week
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: i did try & listen...honest
not long till the 9th though
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: yes :)
User: lp | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: hey, after listening 5 times, it stopped
is it gone?
oh no
anyone able to download it?
i'll still buy it, really!
lol!!!
aus - email me!
User: Hank Silvers | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Thought after one and a half listens: You know, SD doesn't have to sell that many copies of EMG. They can just license samples to rappers and they'll make plenty of money...
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: What can I say, EMG is beyond my wildest dreams. Great album.
I feel that they may use the title track as the extended intro outro type thing on tour, sort of like what they do with Josie. I was laughing out loud, when I heard it.
Great job!
Wish I had the lyrics page, though.... :-(
User: Bad Sneakers | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: It IS still up - Listening to its awesome power as I write - With a big smile - The last six tracks are as good as it gets IMHO - Now I can't wait for the DVDA
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Bluebook States it's still up:
http://www.msnbc.com/m/mw/mw.asp?0mw=xh68&sk=msn&id=msn/6247&subid=Music&name=cover&pl=
with no breaks
ygk
User: mock turtle | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Awesome site, Andy.
User: suedave | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Well it was a good thing, looks like a few of you got to hear a bit of it - not really in its glory, that'll come on June 10th. Just wondering if I can swing purchasing a DVD-A player before then
Forgot - yes I guess you could say that, but it was worse, I thought I did credit the Blue, where there's always good stuff happening...not unlike here of course :)
I only got to listen to it about 1 1/2 times before it stopped working - immediately drawn to Godwhacker - holy shit that one just has me wrapped around its little finger and won't let me go...it stopped on Pixeleen and that's what I could be heard singing (hopefully just in my head) as I drifted off into dreamland.
Aahh, we're on the homestretch!
User: jon | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Track Listing
1. The Last Mall
2. Things I Miss The Most
3. Blues Beach
4. Godwhacker
5. Slang Of Ages
6. Green Book
7. Pixeleen
8. Lunch With Gina
9. Everything Must Go
with:
Ted Baker: keyboards
Walter Becker: lead guitar
Keith Carlock: drums
Donald Fagen: keyboards
Jon Herington: rhythm guitar
Hugh McCracken: rhythm guitar
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Just like 2vN - the Boy's get those first 3 trax in some order and then E X P A N D......
Blues Beach is light and airy for my taste - but the perfect little summer hit.
Godwhacker is too cool, followed by Slang (another fave).
But Pixeleen, even on my system here is beautiful.
And the album has a great ending tune, unlike the woeful West of Holly Would.
Does anyone have a track listing?
DACW: First pressing sold out. Working on a website with Credit Card linx. A few folks have it already - as well as some West Side Jukes......LadyBayside was instrumental in the sales at the Club back in April.
FEZO: it's coming, man......
ygk
User: SpellCzech | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: weak
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message:
Things I Miss the Most is pretty funny...I'm trying meditation - so far so good...miss those houses...
Jon: I agree - it's amazing how BB and TLM fit in there well...and those songs aren't week at all...Godwhacker is an amazing recording...Greenbook has a nice dose of minor chords...and dreamy in the Almost Gothic Wurly spin then later into the Fagen/Becker pick and roll...cool outtro...Pixeleen is cool/snappy/twisty/hook filled
Slang of Ages is soulful blues - the organ to sax transition is on Slang...
I find it quite edgy in a nice way -
kinda like YGK's WUNDerground was edgy...Hey, Malcolm did you have a new one? Didn't find it on the "support" link above... My daughter is still a big fan of Puerto Rican Girlfriend...
Man, I better get back to work - today will be much better than yesterday...
User: jon | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: You'd have to be a pretty crusty punk not to love EMG. Ironically, or maybe typically, the 2 radio airplay tunes, IMHO, are the weakest on the disc--and they are wonderful. Godwhacker and Lunch With Gina just pure aural heaven.
User: DACW - not a master of my domain | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Hutch: I admire and wish I had your self-control...well, OK not really - just being nice...
2nd listen - sounds even better than the 1st...love all the little unexpected directions...the success of TvN gave them perhaps more confidence to take a few more chances...there's a weird fusion of 40s and 50s jazz with the roots of rock...the organ into the sax solo (Godwacker?) is a case in point...
It's kinda like a NEW NEW Fusion...I mean they already did the LA jazz scene on Aja and Gaucho...the amazing melding of accessability and WEIRD!...like the intro the Greenbook...love that little interlude in GB...then the give and take later between Walter and Donald is lean and mean...the Nightfly on the dark streets of NYC..they run the dreams well on this one...some songs sound like they could head in any direction, and that's a nice feeling...
If you liked Almost Gothic, Negative Girl with a Nightfly structure, sensitiblity, tunes that hook ya as in the Katy and Pretzel Logic then...lots of interesting edges even on Lunch with Gina
This one will challenge Nightfly, Aja, and Katy as top of the heap and just may surpass them? ...anyway, one could never tag the adjective boring to EMG, interesting in so many ways
I'm kerflemkpt...talk amongst yourselves...
User: Hutch | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: I'm gonna wait till the 10th.
I don't have much self control with regard to a lot of other things but I think I can manage this.
What a glorious day that will be!
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Oh Howard, I wish I could agree.
To me the EMG sounds "rich, fat and not so very dangerous anymore".
But maybe it's grooving.
User: Howard | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message:
ohboyohboyohboyohboyohboy...
Didn't expect to hear any more of EMG till June 10th, but found the same link that was posted here on the SD newsgroup. WOW!
Temptation got the better of me, and I had to listen. June 10th (or whenever my CD gets delivered) is still going to be something special. There's nothing like opening a new CD, checking out the liner notes, lyrics etc. And, of course, enjoying the music in it's full glory (well, OK, in its 16-bit 44.1 kHz glory, but that's usually good enough for my ears...). But in the mean time, I had a sneak peak, and boy do I like the sound of this one.
Godwhacker is a killer track - my "Jack of Speed" if you like. Superb blues harp solo (must be Donald?). Lunch with Gina is great too (what is playing that solo?!? some alien keyboard?). Some great keyboard playing and sounds throughout, some nice twisted chords, cool and sharp horn arrangements, great vocal harmonies too. It's mad. It's wiggy. I love it.
Howard
User: It's not time... | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: ...to make a change.
England is pretty small I've heard, you can bicycle around it on an afternoon, right?
/C
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: ...to make a change, just relax, take it easy" - I am amazed Beerberian, he sang that old Cat Stevens song?
/C
User: Cyn | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: ..Danoooooooooo...We'd hoped to leave on the 28th, but things didn't go as well as I expected at the sale...bad weather and we're trying again this weekend.And after that...Well..it might be the 2nd or 3rd. Anyway...whats going on? A party?...I am so outta the loop...(big surprise there) I have marked Aug. 9th..in my diary...( I don't have a diary..so I wrote it on Eian's forehead).
Beerber...whatever it is...count us in.Dano will have my new number...when We GET our new number in Wedmore.
User: DartWoman | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Talk about a beautiful start to a Tuesday.
EMG in its entirety and the anticipation of a new Steely Dan Confession later!
Better buy a lottery ticket--it's my lucky day!
Robin
User: Mike | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Just listened to the album, over here in London. Oh boy! This is the real thing. They haven't made an album as instantly accessible as this since Pretzel Logic. Each track rocks like crazy. All business stopped for tghe morning, as I danced around the house eliciting yelps of joy. Fave tracks so far - Godwhacker and the Becker vocal Slang of Ages. Most disappointing: Everything Must Go .... but that's only because the download stopped and I've not heard it yet - maybe next time round.
My favourite Dan albums are the earlier rockier ones, but it's marginal, they're all great. I just think that the way that the earlier albums blended jazz, rock, blues and even a tinge of country was pure genius that has never been surpassed. The last album was good and deserved its Grammy status, but I still don't rate it as one of their best. The new one ... it's up there man!
Mike
User: Beerberian | Month: 4 | Day: 20
Message: Pat: I was impressed !!!!!!!!!!!
Birmingham NEC Monday May 19th
The Real WorldÆs a Stage but GabrielÆs NO Mere Player à that struts his stuff
The soiree did not start well however, the dash from the farthest point on NEC parking lot had been graced with a teeth chattering hailstorm that migrated to torrential downpour. To say ôthe heavens openedö would be wrong, it was Much nearer to something from Hades !!
And did not progress any better in the offing. As I steamed gently in my seat The Three Stooges sat down behind me and proceeded to spout loudly in perfect ôQöisms on the latest must have grooves they had purchased/pirated - Stripes/Strokes/Vines à B******ks !!! Whatever à
But the proceedings got OVO SO much better àà
Not many headliners (if any ?) would be humble enough to come out and introduce the support act - And in such a genuinely heartfelt way too û ôThese voices have been lived in à listen to their experienceö Blind Boys of Alabama gave 45mins of soul baring, gospel harking, warm rich sounds à.. Acapella sp? in an aircraft hangar takes SOME voices à. These guys have those voices , and some to spare à
The Main attraction û certainly No Torture But My kind of action û VSlkommen till Gabrielland !!!!!!!!!
ôHere Comes the Floodö àààà. (How did he know ?) We took the first step on 2.5 hrs of lifeÆs journey û Where the last tour finished û only fitting - Solo performed, as the rotations began ... THAT voice... nape hair lifting as ever !!
ôDarknessö û Pierced Contrasting Angular yet Harmonised all at once !! In Your Face, then cut to restrained à animate movement in mood and position on the ever changing platform à Ms Gabriel frenetic @ the Mic stand emphasising ôdonÆt mess with me my fuse is shortö perhaps ?
ôRed Rainö, So old, he cocked up the chat intro, but laughed it off. So Old , yet still fresh à great lighting projected onto the stage canopy Martian Landscape by Constable ?
All through the Eve - The quietly confident Mr G chats to the crowd humorous yet thought provoking à Not afraid to open UP, whilst we all Grew UP together !
ôSecret Worldö rediscovered really stretched out the band and didnÆt find them wanting We were now engrossed in the best possible way .
ôSky Blueö cometh the song returneth the ôBoysö.10 years in the writing apparently û But so worth the wait !!! Harmony arose on the central disc the NEC filled with a veritable tide of euphoria
To call it theatre or even theater would be to reduce it to a one dimensional level û It was an EXPERIENCE ! None of the stage rebuilds û Every track a different set up û detracted in the slightest from the whole û Yet more so enhanced it
The central column descended, It rose, it spun, it became an ovipositor, a bringer of planets lunar, A TARDIS û Time And Relative Dimensions In Space à AND when the gestation was over - Gave Birth !!
Hatched from Ovo Gabriel and Daughter spun round upside down (or is it ôDownside UPö) from the flying bridge - Fit or what ?
ôThe Barry Williams Showö Circling the now descended walkway Peter filmed the crowd/crew/band and US - We were what we watched
ôMore Than Thisö It Was !
Mercy St, complete with small green boat with Ms Melanie seated therein û the troubadours sat on the very rim of the gently rotating outer disc. Haunting pipe playing (repeated on more than one occasion throughout the night)
ôDigginÆ in the Dirtö We Sang back Again the Gabriel contrasts in composition exhibited in style.
ôGrowing Upö folded in the plastic purse æ floating once again à well actually careering in laps of the circumference as the musos huddled in the centre û Extreme Ball control especially on the bounce !
ôAnimal Nationö Bonobo inspired, had me eating out of his hand . I did my bit on the crowd refrain - Where were the rest of you ? The shame of being called ôpitifulö by the great man did encourage an improved second chorus thoÆ à
ôSolsbury Hillö More exercise , on two wheels û Classic is a much over used word , but , well, IT WAS !! alright? live with it !
ôSledgehammerö I wanted to be AND was û unfortunately involved accidentally punching the guy in front û He took it very well.
ôSignal to noiseö so thatÆs what its about !! àà. A wall of keyboard and guitar techno triumph as well as a thought provoking anti war piece - Audience Stunned !!
Encoresààà.
ôIn your eyesö extended in so many ways We saw it all àhelped again by The Alabaman Choir Extraordinaire.
ôFather & Sonö (tear in the corner of my eye û it always does that to me) brought the journey back to Planet Birmingham àà..
IÆm so Glad I went AND so Sad I canÆt make any of the other dates. DVD PLEASE SOOOOOON !!
A big thank you to the whole ensemble incl The Orange People of course !!
BeerberIan
User: j&silentstevie | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: still haven't heard a note (i'm holding out for the 10th), but the sound of the rest of you boiling over will do till then...
lars, thanx so much for the mini-review, time-delay-seguing perfectly into tones'-thompson-metheny-tune...
a quick survey for those interested enough to interject: favorite classical composers of gb denizens and/or other thoughts on the genre ?
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: Thanks for the link to EMG...
But I'll wait for the 9th thanks, I have the most excellent day planned.
Angle: You where right about the late flying times, the money's gone now anyhow !!!
new toilet & towel rail)
User: Andy | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: Hello! Just wanted to stop by and let you guys know about my new, improved, expanded, updated SD site (it's a floor wax, it's a dessert topping--remember that SNL skit?). Anyway, I think you'll dig it. I even cooked up a cool promo message:
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Andy Metzger's Steely Dan Page is updated with scores of new features, content and information. After numerous delays, the new version of Andy Metzger's Steely Dan Page is now online at
http://www.andymetzger.com.
Some of the highlights of the new site include:
* The Steely Dan Media Archive - a searchable archive of hundreds of Steely Dan articles, interviews, reviews and features from 1972 to 2003.
* The Complete Steely Dan Track Guide - TheElSupremo's comprehensive list of every Steely Dan song ever written or recorded
* Interview with Kenny Vance - the new site will feature magazine style articles and interviews. The first such piece is an interview with Becker and Fagen's former employer.
* Comprehensive coverage of Everything Must Go and the upcoming tour
* Audio interviews, complete list of Steely Dan web links, complete discography and more...
* Not to mention what is already on the site--the latest Steely news, a large collection of rare and unreleased MP3s, etc., etc.
Stop by, check it out, and let me know what you think.
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Sorry for the commercial interruption
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: Did I forget to say:
HOLY FUCK, THAT'S GREAT!!!!!!
User: DANAUDIOCRACK2BITWHORE | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: SueDavid: Man, it's absolutely jaw-dropping, even at 26.6...it just flows...
man, I'm easy...
accidentally erased a review in excitement (I can take a hint from the gods)...but to make a long story short: it's retro, it's hip, it's modern, it's mad, it's wiggy, sublime, scrumptious, it's like everything they've recorded and nothing they've done so far. There's Blues all over EMG - the Satchmo and Ellignton kind...There's Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder and the Nightfly...not as much Miles...WALTER KICKS MAJOR ASS!...40s jazz...film noir, dose of funk, a smidge of Aja, Prefab Sprout...their most gutsy recording since Katy Lied...Weiskopf takes 'em home with soul...
Things I Miss the Most, Godwhacker, Greenbook, Pixeleen, and Everything Must Go are immediate favorites - but it's ALL GOOD...can't wait to hear it in DVD-A...yes, it is still possible to make music for Adults...and stuff that still makes ya feel like a kid, especially have the day's frustration...we gotta have some music for the Few Frontier...
User: Forgot | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: Forgot to mention. The last link was from the BlueBook where they had quite a EMG listening partt tonight.
User: suedave | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: This ought to liven it up in here - hear the glory.......hear the grooves.........
http://entertainment.msn.com/netcal/?netcal=314 or click above
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: Ange - that's what was said in the paper.
Zeke - my man! Good to see you around!
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: LuckLess Pedestrian: Syracuse New York State Fair tickets are not yet on sale. Right now I'm on the fence, but could be easily swayed sinse I've longed to return for a while now (last was 1995 @ commencement). Dinosaur Barbeque, Fagen's, the Quad and Steely Dan...what better mix can one ask for?
Tonight, I saw tickets being sold for Jones Beach, Section A, row A: $650.00 EACH!! And I'm sure those will be sold in spite of strict anti-scalping laws in New York. Unreal.
Aus
User: Let's have a show of hands! | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: Hmmmm... slow day here at on the GB... I guess *some* of us haven't recovered from National Masturbation Day...
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: tones- That was just too cool. Richard Thompson is a genius. He should do a sequel.
User: Zeke | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: Hi Everybody.
So, I'm looking at the tour page and it seems like a New Orleans date is not in Don and Walt's future?
"what the....."
C'mon guys, your freakin' killin me.
Call the New Orleans Arena folks and get on the calandar for Christ's sake.
Anybody going to Memphis?
Hi Oleander, Clas, Jazz Fest was great!
Killer weather.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: angel: one of Charlie's??? ;-)
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: Mu: So you're trying to tell me that the "angel" is a TV? LOL!!!
Clas: Walter said he was married 3 times? I only know of one marriage, though I have read that he did have at least 1 serious relationship in the 70's.
User: tones | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: angel - my bad... ;-)
snakie - hey there! Yeah, they're playing a CC shed here too, but it's for a good reason: they have no choice! I found out saturday *every single major venue in the bay area is owned by Clear Channel*. The only place of a decent size that isn't CC owned is the Berkely Community Theater, which they would have to play 2 or three times to sell as many tickets as Concord. Too bad though... it would be great to see D & W on the same relatively intimate stage Jimi and many other legends have played on...
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hey folks... found this great song by Richard Thompson I wanted to share with you all... it's called
I AGREE WITH PAT METHENY
I agree with Pat Metheny
Kenny's talents are too teeny
He deserves the crap he's going to get
He overdubbed himself on Louis
What a musical chop suey
Raised his head above the parapet
Well Louis Armstrong was the king
He practically invented swing
Hero of the twentieth century
He did duets with many a fella
"Fatha" Hines, Bing, Hoagy, Ella
Strange he never thought of Kenny G
A meeting of great minds, how nice
Like Einstein and Sporty Spice
Digitally fused in an abortion
Kenny fans will doubtless rave
While Satchmo turns inside his grave
Soprano man's bit off more than his portion
Oh brainless pentatonic riffs
Display our Kenny's arcane gifts
But we don't care, his charms are so beguiling
He does play sharp, but let's be fair
He has such lovely crinkly hair
We hardly notice, we're too busy smiling
How does he hold those notes so long?
He must be a genius. Wrong!
He just has the mindlessness to do it
He makes Britney sound like scat
If this is jazz I'll eat my hat
An idle threat, I'll never have to chew it
So next time you're in a rendezvous
And Kenny's sound comes wafting through
Don't just wince, eliminate the cause
Rip the tape right off the muzak
Pull the plug, or steal a fuse, Jack
The whole room will drown you in applause
Yes, Kenny G has gone too far
The gloves are off, it's time to spar
Grab your hunting rifle, strap your colt on
It's open season on our Ken
But I await the moment when
We lay off him and start on Michael Bolton
I agree with Pat Metheny
Kenny's talents are too teeny
Richard Thompson (2001)
It can be heard at www.richardthompson-music.com
pieces
t
User: DACW - I can show you some of the people in my life | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: angel: Girlfriend = Television ...a more interesting and personal twist on the theme of the Genesis song "Turn it On Again"
GIRLFRIEND
"Alone in my cave
It's corn flakes and Camels"
After a hard long day, for most guys, it's chips and Sports Center....
"And the long restless shadows of my life
None but the brave
Jim Beam and Jack Daniels
Channelhopping these empty days and nights"
after a difficult part of Walter's life...a desparate attempt to fill the emptiness..
"Glued to the screen
Rerun by rerun
At the dark outer limits of my soul
Stranded between
The Green Acres of my good intentions
And the Twilight Zone of zero self-control"
The BlackHole of Nick at Night
"So come on angel
Tune in on me"
If that phosphorescent tube was only interactive - this was before the internet
"You 'll see your faithful servant
Lost in misery"
HELP!!!!!!
"And all of your hard work
Coming down to no good
Better see about me babe
If you only could now"
Where's a virtual babe when ya need one?
"Girlfriend if it can't be you
I don't even have anyone to tell my story to
I said girlfriend if it can't be you
Girlfriend if it can't be you
I don't even have anyone to tell my story to
I said girlfriend if it can't be you "
I want You. I need You.
"Dust and despair
Cobwebs and confusion
Collecting in the corners of my room
All of my dreams
Bitter illusions
I just can't be rid of them too soon"
Fill the void...with more void...
"Tired of my brain
Tired of this movie
Too tired to get up and shut it off "
Is that Porky's III or a Test Pattern?
"The time that remains
What good can it do me
Now that I know that too much is not enough"
Been there...done that...again and again and again...my life is rerun by rerun...how many marriages it that?
"Wait a minute baby
What about my heart
Was it your idea
To take it all apart
And put it all back together
Just one piece at a time
Now it's down to you darling
That's why I'm all"
Externalizing as he's talking to the TV...why wait for real interaction when you can live it in your crumbling mind...
"Girlfriend if it can't be you
I don't even have anyone to tell my story to
I said girlfriend if it can't be you
Girlfriend if it can't be you
I don't even have anyone to tell my story to
I said girlfriend if it can't be you "
"I'm pullin' in a picture now
Up off my back pages"
Perhaps I'll direct my own show...
...or a snippet of that PeteTownshend song from Empty Glass "I'm so sick of dull TV...next time you swicth on, you might see me"
"And all at once am privy to
The entire grim design
Of a great civilization
In the terminal stages
Of a slow but steady mental moral spiritual decline"
Based on the garbage that passes for programming
"And so it goes
And thus it is written
And all I want to know is
Where does a guy like me fit in?"
I hear a Big Adios somehere...
"So I'm visualizing a cute little bunny
With a fluffy white tail and long grey floppy ears
Who looks up at me and says, Doc don't you worry
All you got to do is, hide in here
Now all you got to do is to just say when
You might consider bringing your sweetness 'round here again"
Looney Tunes protect me from the madness of the world and myself!!!
"Girlfriend if it can't be you
I don't even have anyone to tell my story to
I said girlfriend if it can't be you
Girlfriend if it can't be you
I don't even have anyone to tell my story to
I said girlfriend if it can't be you"
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: Ange - at the time for the 11 trax release, the Swedish journalist Msns Ivarsson ( Expressen ) interviewed Becker over the phone. When asked what Beckers wife said when she heard Cringemaker, Becker said; -She laughed. This is my 3rd marriage. I got plenty of experiences.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: Due to the fact that 2 SD shows were going on sale Sunday, there was a huge full page ad for Steely Dan in the LA Weekly (page 92). That shot of the 2 shoes and instrument case. Felt real good knowing I already had ticket in hand. :-)
Dr. K: Loved the post, especially the former members/hired guns.
Snakie: Must be nice having contacts..... Hope it works out for you.
Mu/Tones: Listened to Becker all weekend and I blame it all on you two. I still like "My Waterloo", but "Lucky Henry" does nothing for me. Personal top favorites, "Hard Up Case" & "Girlfriend".
Question I would ask WB. Which one is written about Elinor, Girlfriend or Cringemaker?
User: snakehips | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message:
Spent a while at Ticketmaster this morning (online and on the phone)...tickets for the Detroit show went on sale at 10am. The only pavillion seats left are at least 35 rows back on the far right or left, so I didn't buy any. Seems all the radio stations, ad agencies, etc. scoop up all the good seats. I'll have to get some tickets from them. Ah, it pays to be in show biz...lol Btw, guess who sponsors SD for this show? *Clear Channel*! I was surprised.
sh
User: DanDude | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: emg is a tribute to Maurice Gibb
http://www.brokennewz.com/entertainment/steelybeegees.asp
User: 'LONG AS YOU KNOW YOU'RE PLAYING YOURS | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: Not that much Steven.
And I thought I'd never live to see it; Steely Dan styled! And how they are styled then, did they hire Barry Manilows stylist?
Things aint what they used to be.
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Went in to town during lunch today (yes Gina), and I bought a copy of Jarretts "Belonging". Haven't heard it since way back.
I can't help thinking; -Having the nerve uh?
/C
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: I've been playing the heck out of 'The Last Mall' and 'Blues Beach'. A few comments:
1. The last 1:30 of 'Blues Beach' is so catchy and so infectiously funky, it makes me want to boogie, as embarrassing as such boogy-ing would be. I can just see the Angel Chorus (are we still calling them that?) stretching out on this. Gonna be great!
2. Especially on 'The Last Mall', Donald's voice has never sounded better, particularly in the higher register.
3. If the gods smile, I'll snag some ducats for the Oakdale (CT) performance and get to see SD twice in two months.
Is anybody else enjoying this as much as I am? The anticipation of a great new album, a super tour. I feel 18 again!
User: Luckless Pedestrian | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: was watching abc television last night - dare i say bachelor? hope we can still be friends, yes, it was pretty lame, i don't miss television ...anyway, there was a commercial for new shows coming this fall and there was this one new cop show that had this marine corps-like cop yelling at his partner and he said, i swear:
my name is thelonious and i ain't your friend!
did anyone else see that?
what the hell?
lol!!!!
leo sayer - when i need you? wow - but, i actually liked him
too much information!
and on the blue, a new solo release after emg - wow, whatta year?
dano!!!!!! it's Rob, honey...lol!!! jack in the box, baby!
aus - seriously thinking syracuse, i mean, this could be their last tour, who knows, right? (we say that everytime we see dave brubeck...for the last 17 years we've been seeing him, lol!!!) let me know if you are really going!
happy monday - it's too nice to work, do i have to go in?????
User: Beerberian | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: Stevee; BALLOON & WINE FESTIVAL ??? up, up and wheyheyyyyyyyy !!
User: SteveeDan | Month: 4 | Day: 19
Message: Jimbo - she is one of the best lyricists in popular music ... I realize it's not the ascerbic Steely Dan, but, they (Donald and Carole) are both highly regarded in their fields.
Clas - funny.
W1P - We'd love to see you, young "A", and younger "A" in Hermosa. The weatherman has forcasted a warming trend for the latter half of the week, so hopefully the weather will be only mildly overcast in the morning. If the fates smile down upon us, I think we will be blessed with great gig weather (sounds like I am requesting a "great gig in the sky" doesn't it ...)
And speaking of Floyd, I get these messages from RealPlayer or whatever it is that is connected to RealPlayer ... like the latest Playboy swimsuit photo shoot or the daily horoscope ... but this one was on Pink Floyd, dealing with the 30th anniversary of Dark Side Of The Moon, Reggae Floyd, Orchestral Floyd ... and, as it has been talked about here ...
The Wizard Of Oz coupled with Dark Side Of The Moon ...
My question still remains on this Oz/Moon thing ... does it matter if you sync up the CD with the video tape of the movie or with the DVD ... will it work either way? Is it the same? Does anybody know? ... Hello, is there anybody out there ? ...
Mr. Ed Beatty -- Hi there, oh Temecula resident ...
PRETZEL LOGIC WILL BE PLAYING AT THE TEMECULA BALLOON & WINE FESTIVAL ON
SUNDAY JUNE 8TH AT 1 PM.
We will be followed by the Journey tribute band Escape and the headliner is Edgar Winter (THE Edgar Winter) Group. So c'mon and take a free ride.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ... yadda, yadda, yadda ...
User: Beerberian | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: Dano; Will order in bulk ... bring 'em all !! incl Cyn ?
St Al; Off to see Mr Peter Gabriel @ Birmingham NEC tonight - 20ft inflatable womb and all !!!!!!!!!!!!! will let you know ...
Bad S; How went it with the Mancs Last Night ?
User: C @ W | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: Maybe it's the best that he can do?
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: You won't believe who Donald has been writing songs recently with.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,87073,00.html
I'm not gonna say who. You just have to read it to believe it.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: If he doesn't tell us what we want, try Yanni next:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/914527.asp#BODY
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: Actually the Allmans new one has been out a couple of months.
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: Getting some interesting reactions to A Fair Forgery of Pink Floyd
A Fair Forgery of Pink Floyd reviewed by Brain Damage Online http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/
A Fair Forgery of Pink Floyd reviewed by Prognosis http://www.silverdb.com/MUSIC_DBCDInfo.asp?txtCDID=7685
A Fair Forgery available from CD Baby http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/afairforgery
Steevee -- good job on the tix -- maybe we'll make it out to Hermosa next Sunday with Aja Danielle!
User: SteveeDan's Road Tour | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: Well, TicketMaster (read: Ticket Nazis) just opened another on-line pre-sale lot of seats for the first Steely Dan show of Leg I, that being in Costa Mesa (The Orange County Fair) at the Pacific Amphitheatre. I made my attempt at getting a good seat for this inaugural Dan gig ...
I scored dead center, third row in the "circle" section, which is the orchestra pit. When you buy a seat (or 4) for this show, you also get admission to the Orange County Fair ... and you can go and see the "biggest pig" if you like. I know what you might be thinking ... but I won't be there ... this pig will be at the concert.
The following day, it's a drive up to Paso Robles for the California Mid-State fair followed by a few idyllic days in Yosemite ... then off to Lake Tahoe to Harvey's Outdoors for the Steely Dan show there ... then, after returning to Los Angeles, hopefully, I can drag the family up to Santa Barbara for the SB County Bowl Steely Dan show ... then back to Hollywood for the Universal Amphitheatre concert ...
Do I yet qualify for "running away to join the circus"?
... and speaking of side shows ...
Don't forget ...
PRETZEL LOGIC LIVE AT FIESTA HERMOSA, SUNDAY MAY 25TH AT 11 AM
THIS IS AN ARTS AND MUSIC FESTIVAL RIGHT AT THE BEACH, THE STAGE IS ON
PIER AVENUE RIGHT AT THE PIER. FREE ADMISSION, FUN FOR THE WHOLE
FAM DAMILY.
(... PLUG, PLUG, PLUGGING AWAY ...)
Stevee (P.T. Barnum) Dan
User: Hey Dano! | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: I think that Allman Bros. album has only been out a week or so.
Hutch
User: Hutch | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: DACW & StAl - Thanks for the info. I probably won't upgrade to surround sound, but I think I'll get a more powerful amp and the DVD-A player.
User: Dano | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: bluz , was at an old friends 60th party on Friday and they were giving it large with Bobby Darin , must say i prefer Frankie baby , but Bobby had the old timers up on the dance floor?? What a sight that was!
Cyn , Are you heading off soon to Blighty , if you are hope all goes well and best of luck for you and the family for the future.Keep August 9th in the diary , and e-mail me when you settle.
All this talk of Don and Walt at Jones bloody Beach , any chance the boys can do Bournemouth or Brighton or even Wigan bloody Pier would help ??
Lot of good websites with EMG around at the minute , do you think the boys are getting more popular or is it my Imagination??
StAl , Hutch , The new ABB Album , How recently has that been released??Heard nothing about it over here??
Dunc , Ma Heed has been muellered in the whole of May so far , Next week comes the wedding?? Then its time for Twisting the night away.Hope the wifey is well mate.
BB, May blag a few more tickets for the 9th, if i can get a few more of us there would you still provide the peanuts??
Bad Sneakers , Just had a quick Tommy Tank , before the missus came in the room??
Aus , ygk , Aja , I am getting so jealous of all this Noo Yawk gig ?? Do you think the boys can postpone till next year as the big Five O for me and the missus said she will pay for flights to the Big A. Will have to settle for a trip up the A5 to Burton for Beers UK Fest, now which of you guys are coming over here for our big one in August??
Snakie , How are things over there , Bill had any winners lately??
LP, That e-mail from Bill was a bloody Doooooooser??
Has anyone heard from Chere lately??
Cheers
Dano.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: 1714: Nope dope
EMG DVD-A available through Acoustic Sounds
http://store.acousticsounds.com/store.cfm?Title_ID=11723&do=detail
Hutch:
The prices of DVD-As are becoming more reasonable. Check out reviews, but you can get a very good one for under $300 and some are under $200 that are decent. It's worth it to heat the Nightfly in DVD-A and TvN sounds far more lively. I got interested in the DVD-A format initially a few years ago setting up a digital video system for a teaching lab. DVD-A players will play DVD-Audio, DVD-video, CDs, CD-ROM, and most will play just about any other CD or DVD format...Thus you can put your old CD player in mothballs û my experience is that my JVC XV SA-75 GD plays a CD better than my Sony CD player. The key is, unlike going from LPs to CDs (i.e., Royal Scam), you wonÆt lose the ability to play all your CDs - both play nicely in the same player...Many computers and DVD-V can play DVD-A but there some loss in sound quality
I only half agree with St Al: The industry and IEEE standard is the 2.0 Stereo, not DTS 5.1...although, until this point, 5.1 has been a major selling hook. It is very very cool, but (a) you lose sampling rate per channel, and (b) how many folks out there listen to concerts in the middle of the stage? Well, I mean besides Q or Aussie or the many tribute band players...OK, for the 4 or 5 of us left, set those speakers in the corner (wood floor preferable), program for stereo 2.0 and CRANK IT!!!
Specification DVD-Audio vs. CD
Disk Capacity
DVD-A: 4.7Gb - Single layer; 8.5Gb - Dual Layer17Gb; Double Sided Dual Layer
CD: a measly 650Mb
Channels
DVD-A: Up to 6 (5.1)
or 2 (stereo)
Frequency Response
DVD-A: 0 - 96kHz (max)
CD: 5 - 20kHz
Dynamic Range
DVD-A: 144db
CD: 96db
Sampling Rate - 2 channel
DVD-A: 192KHz
CD: 44.1kHz
Sampling Rate û
Multichannel (5.1)
DVD-A: 96KHz
Sample Size:
DVD-A: 24 bits: (2 exp[24]pwr = 16,777,216)
CD: up to 16 bits ( 2 exp[16]pwr = 65,536
Maximum Data Rate"
DVD-A: 9.6 Mbps.
CD: 1.4Mbps
http://www.digitalaudioguide.com/faq/dvd-audio/faq_intro.htm
http://www.surroundedby.com/what-is-dvd-audio/
IEEE1394 or otherwise known as Firewire or iLink was developed by Apple engineers is the IEEE (big Engineering Society) standard for transferring digital video and audio...this is the same out put and cable used to connect a digital video camera and computer (the plugs are flat, thin rectangles with a rounded end for the computer end)...so full advantage of DVD-A will occur when we buy the next Amp/Receiver that have this input û but for now, itÆs still far better with plugs available...Players this year should have a IEEE1394 output...
http://www.audiorevolution.com/news/1201/31.dvddigital.shtml
SACD is another high quality digital audio format û the specs are similar to DVD-Audio û the data are compressed differently. Some players have ôUniversalö chips that will play SACD and DVD-A. SACD discs canÆt include video data like Confessions. DVD-A can include copyright protection, which the RIAA is very interested in. Therefore, it will be pushed by the industry û but prices will have to come down to the $10 range, which they will upon mass production.
http://www.disctronics.co.uk/technology/dvdaudio/dvdaud_comp.htm
http://www.disctronics.co.uk/technology/dvdaudio/dvdaud_intro.htm
User: To Fife, other NYC Show Attendees | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: Hey Fife, the NYC Danfest list is a great place to get info on the Jones Beach and Roseland hotel situations. Last time they had an Steely Dan event in NYC, there was even a designated hotel ad with reduced pricing and other discounts for members of the NYC Danfest list.
To sign up, email majordomo@dandom.com
with nothing else in the message except "subscribe nyc" <---leave out the quotation marks. I guess there is like 150 or something people on the list. Plus, a lot of the same people who made Roseland 95 happen are there. Check it out!
User: Doctor Warren Kruger | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: Before this new one comes out, I'd just like to state that I did everything in my power to stop WB from playing bass and taking all the guitar solos on every cut of this phonograph record, but the powers that be were just too much for the good doctor this time!
Spiking his Pepsi with various triazolobenzodiazepines proved useless- the fellow has the constitution, (if not the physical resemblance) of an ox!
Planned abductions, kidnappings and assaults fell through when my ex-patient/prisoner z chickened out, as usual.
Even the planned tough love intervention with Chuck Rainey, Tom Barney, Larry Carlton (bussed in from the Home For Overly Smooth Jazz Artists at my expense!)Denny Dias, Elliot Randall and Jeff "Skunk' Baxter (pulled in from a top secret Pentagon meeting)did nothing but bring up old grievances ("why didn't you use me on the last one, and the one before that etc..."), and the aging hired hands were "escorted" out by the pair's newly employed "goons".
Our seemingly foolproof last-ditch attempt, sicking the Briquet Griffon Vendeen on him in the avocado fields simply wound up giving the BGV avocado poisoning, from which he is just starting to recover.
So, there it is, the best laid plans of Raelians and men,etc...
Defeatedly Yours,
Dr. Warren K.
User: Raised on Mono... | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: StAl - and it's enough with 2 speakers? I thought that sourround sound had to have 8 speakers placed all over the room?
Like in that China Theater up in Hollywood, I saw "Die Hard with a Reverberant", back in 1995, the opening scene when the camera is panning over Manhattan streets to the tune of "Summer in the City", which suddenly ended with an explosion that almost made me shit in my pants.
That was great.
/C
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: Hutch: To take advantage of DVD-A you'll need a AV Amp/Receiver with 5.1 input. Otherwise you won't be able to take full advantage of the 5.1 encoding.
User: Hutch | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: - Okay, in preparation for 6/10 I'll probably go out and buy a DVD-A player today. I priced them a while back and they don't seem to be overly expensive (under $200). So my question is... will I notice a big difference even with my modest hi-fi equipment? I have a Kenwood KR-A46 receiver. It's probably about 40 to 60 watts. And my speakers are made by a company called "db Plus" out of Ontario.
These are the specs written on the speakers:
db Plus model 880
Digital monitor
Freq. Response - 35Hz to 22KHz plus or minus 3dB
Efficiency - 96dB (Average room) 2.83v/1 Meter
Power handling - 100w
Min. Power - 10w
Foam Poly tweeter
Digital ready, High dynamics
Bass reflex. Computer tuned system
Crossover - 2200 Hz / 2-way
I bought 'em about 10 or 12 years ago.
Arrrrrrggggghhhhh !!!! I can't get the interviews on the ODP to stream right on my damn computer. I've even gone in and tried changing the buffering rate and that didn't help. It just breaks up constantly so you can't really hear any of what they're saying.
Any suggestions?
User: Mercy! | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: angel..will give you a heads up on a Gina play in the future..thanks
cyn..mmmm good t@#% on a ritz..thank you!
BB..'big ocean studios"
molly girl..good R&R miss ya"
chubb..thanks for the call "Along The red Ledge"" 1978 rca..w/the best
caleb Quaye..guitars..kenny Peserelli..bass..roger Pope..drums
Hall & Oates
played Friday
thanks to Zan Gardner..special guest
Richard "groove" Holmes..broadway.."plenty, plenty blues
Papa John De francesco..jumpin..24-7..(new)
Larry Coryell..cedars of avalon
Eddie "lockjaw" Davis..lover
Bobby Darin.." I found a new baby"
Count Basie..me and you.."moten swing"
Teddy Edwards..smooth sailing".."hanks tune"..(new)
Hampton Hawes..for real.."hip"
Jimmy Mc Griff..straight up
Wayne Shorter..adams apple"
Ramsey Lewis..recorded live at the bohemian cavern..washington d.c.
May 1965..The In crowd"
Vincent Herring.. all to real..yokos delight..(new)
Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers.."mosaic"
Wes Montgomery,,dangerous"
BB King..when the blues come over me"
Albert King.."blues at sunrise"
Bobby "blue" Bland..I'll take care odf you"
Aint no heaven, ain't no burnin hell,
When I die, where I go can't nobody tell,
John Lee Hooker
"Burnin Hell"
bluz
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 18
Message: Getting No Attention = dr Mu
User: No Where Man | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: The new Dan is going to be released on my birthday but I feel nothing. Do you think I can download some tracks for 99ó each on the apple site in case I DO feel something?
User: DACW - not that tough | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: t: This Moody Bastard has a great chorus and a Prefab Sprout thing going...but it takes 2 minutes to get there!!!
The highlights of the album though are the Sheppard solo on Book of Liars and the interaction between Dean Parks (1st guitar solo), Walter on bass and Ben Perowski on drums...the the dueling insane guitar between Parks and Adam Rogers...Girlfriend's probably the best complete recording...Those that lean towards intellignet, but organic lyrics - this is it!...and as my wife points out - you can understand every word!...no chance of thinking it "Italian in their eyes for a few years in hgih school and college... I'm a sucker though for the jazz accents, production, jazz horns, complex interaction between instruments, etc..I do appreciate the pared down rhythm section of 11 ToW - but besdies for Girlfriend, I don't get the drum machines...but then you know I LOVE Wendel... ;-0
User: t | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: DACW - man, you're a tough "crowd"...
User: fife | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: Thanks Aus,
I think something close to the venue would be good if at all possible. Its looking more favorable god it would be great to see the atlantic again listening to the dan
User: DACW - You've probably had one | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: t: Surprisingly (or not) I LOVE Hat too Flat...great, weird intro that should have been the theme song to My Favorite Martian...the chorus when, we finally get to it, is classic...and that's the end of that...
The song is of course a brilliant metaphor talking a critical aspect of the human condition on Earth- we all try to fit into some niche at home, work, play....my English she is mo' better now, but my hat remains too flat...for all those square pegs out there...
Hat too Flat
Hard Up Case
Girlfriend
Book of Liars
Lucky Henry
Medical Science (Japanese version)
and the guitar solo to Junkie Girl (the rest is just OK) are CLASSICS - limbic system on the sleeve with coffee and cigarette stains...Surf and/or Die is interesting as an ANTI-Dan piece...liitle Kawai is cute...
...somehow more like Tom Waits than Warren Zevon really...
groveling over the rest of the recordings is really hero worship IMO...the highs are as high or higher than Kama, but the lows lower...
While I like TvN more musically than Kama or 11ToW, I don't think it surpassed the solo album on lyrics but that's comparing apples, guava, and boysenberries...
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: Fife: In re An Evening with Steely Dan at Jones Beach Ampitheatre, Wantaugh, NY: Were you looking for affordable lodging accomodations IN Manhattan, or out on the island closer to the actual venue??
In the city consider the Chelsea Hotel, and The Larchmont in Union Square. Both are clean, affordable and within striking distance of anywhere on Manhattan Island.
Aus
User: tones | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: "It's still no easy thing to hold your head up high
When every time you turn around
Somebody kicks your statue down
I tried my best to hold my ground
I swore I'd never let it be this way
But now I broke my sword, dropped my gun
Just like some tragic beat Napoleon..."
DACW - I tried, I tried, I tried... really I did... to let your comments about "My Waterloo" slide on down, but after just grooving to it like a soul-jazz rasta spending a sunny day on blues beach, I have to think...
"Huh?"
...and how 'bout that tasty solo? Melts in your mind, not in your cans...
I'd understand maybe not liking the jazz-from-another-planet diagonal groove of "Hat Too Flat", but even that is pretty incredible...
understand this isn't criticism, just surprise...
tnz
User: fife | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: I'm seriously thinking about seeing the show in jones beach and after some research the train seems to be the best option. Can anyone direct me to affordable accomodations nearby it would be greatly appreciated.
User: The 5.1's a toy, Stereo 2.0 is state of the art | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message:
User: Getting No Attention | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: Clas- No, only to enjoy it more. But why do you care? Afterall, you are a Clashole.
User: C | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: Can you see it?
It works too, I'm amazed.
User: Maybe I should go back to Spain... | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: StAl - thanx.
Folks - See the link above, support the Musicians? That's where you go when you are looking for my address.
Great.
---
Is there anyone else than me, feeling kind of out of this DVD 5.1 Audio Sourround Sound-talk? I am beginning to be shit scared, if Steely Dan's coming out with a new album and I am sitting here short with my lousy old stereo equipment. Do I need some kind of Theater/Movie-state of the art stuff to fully enjoy their music nowdays?
/C
User: June | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: Ward:
Yes, I remember dining on crepes after a martini at the bar at Fagen's - remember, we almost had our rehearsal dinner there - sigh...Yes, I remember we were discussing a trip to our alma mater that weekend, but don't forget lovie, we might be moving that weekend from our summer cottage to our winter haven - and I hate to miss the tennis match to end the season at the Club
Will let you know soon, can we still get tickets?
Come up for golf at Kebo soon, everyone is asking for you dear, you work too hard...
Kisses,
June
User: Luckless Pedestrian | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: checking in before i head down to seawall for an ocean hike - it's gorgeous here in spring - i just knew it had to come!!!
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: Weekly report of the AAA Singles Chart
Steely Dan's Blues Beach was the highest new entrant to the singles chart at #23
http://www.radioandrecords.com/Charts/trpa_Home.htm
also: Triple A Most Added¬
Artist áTitle (Label)
Rhett Miller á Our Love (Elektra/EEG)
Steve Winwood á Different Light (Wincraft/Sci-Fidelity)
Dave Gahan á Dirty Sticky Floors (Reprise)
Steely Dan á Blues Beach (Reprise)
Sonny Landreth á All About You (Sugar Hill/Vanguard)
Triple A Most Increased Plays
Artist áTitle (Label) Plays
Jackson Browne á About My Imagination (Elektra/EEG) +76
Steely Dan á Blues Beach (Reprise) +60
Pete Yorn á Come Back Home (Columbia) +51
O.A.R. á Hey Girl (Lava) +45
Pseudopod á All Over You (Interscope) +35
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: Pete: Can't wait to put my paws on the DVD-A version...found it locally at a record store and pre-ordered for $15.99. On-line Play.com seems to be the easiest to navigate and buy:
http://www.playserver5.com/play247.asp?page=comingsoon&r=DVDA
User: Pete | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: Not wanting to sound like some DJ or rock critic or anything, but I've now played "Everything Must Go" around 15 times. It's probably Dan's best album since Aja. In fact, I think it could possibly be Dan's best album - ever. The Surround Sound playback on the DVD-Audio album is simply stunning. Prepare to be completely blown away. Oh, check out this cool DVD-Audio breaking news story on this UK Jazz web site - www.jazzwise.com. Becker and Fagen grace the home page. Groovy.
User: PLN | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: Check out the latest news for the U.K.'s simultaneous CD and DVD-Audio release of Steely Dan's new album "Everything Must Go". Hit this link: http://www.noblepr.co.uk. Once on the home page, click on the Everything Must Go banner to get to the "Everything" release.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: For the crowd that don't access the Blue. Courtesy of Andy Metzger.
http://www.highfidelityreview.com/reviews/review.asp?reviewnumber=13143569
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: Moll: Despite what Lars thinks unfortunately I live 900,000 Colt 45s of 650,000 cowboy hats (not that I've seen one in a year) laid end to end from Austin...I Wish I lived there...or if one drove using the same vector from NYC, you would be miles past the Poconos in Hazelton...but by Texas Standards not that far...meet you for chocolate banana milkshakes at the Dairy Queen between Bastrop and Caldwell... ;-)
User: uuhuhuhuhhhhhh... | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: I wanna go back to Motel 6.
User: C @ W | Month: 4 | Day: 17
Message: Allman Brothers?
LISAAAAAA! Didn't we see them in New Orleans?
Funny thing is I can't remember much of it. What I remember is; you were eating Tex Mex during the concert and I was standing at the left side of the stage asking a roadie if he had a Shaker... ?
Or a Triangle.
You, Me & Sunny Sam.
No, I must have asked for a Triangle.
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Just a quick drop in...just back from Tapas at 1492, very nice...
It is true, folks...I am hosting a Danfest extraordinaire both pre- and Post-concert.
YGK...love the name Bayside Bacchanal....have you trademarked it already? I know how you lyricists are...
Further details to come. I should probably be sober for that. The planning,at least.
Aja's been contacted, and a ticket reserved from my stash for her. BTW, I have one spare from my six. If anyone is in need...please advise. Email, preferably, since I don't frequent these pages as I once did.
Off to frolic...more to come!
Lady B
User: Hutch | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: StAl - I hear Dickie Betts is living in Chesterfield, a suburb of Richmond, Va.. Think I'll look him up and see if he wants to jam!
No kidding. I've had several customers in the music store (where I stack cut-outs) tell me that he met a young lady from this area and he has a residence here now.
Interesting.
As far as Southern Rock goes I've always liked the Allmans. It's really more blues than Southern Rock to my ear, but whatever. Saw them at the Hampton Colosseum when Dwayne was still alive. I'll never forget that show. The band was really jamming and the people in the audience were getting up and dancing in the aisles and going up in front of the stage. Well. The Hampton police apparantly didn't think much of that and started ordering people back to their seats. Then the next thing we know they're bringing the curtain down on the band! Bringing the curtain down on the Allman Bros.!!!! Of course they were not as well known then as they are now but still...
I heard that new ABB album last week. It rocks. Some nice jams. Derrick Trucks and Warren Haynes sound great.
Hutch
User: insider | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: oops. collaborating
User: insider | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Firstly, there is no truth in the rumour that DF and carole bayer sager are collaberating on an album. However, the Becker/Neil Sedaka team-up promises to be a doozy.
User: Lars | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Stevie: it was a duo Metheny&Haden concert. I've learned that they do the duo format only in Europe (not that much of drinking and party at concerts over here). Just wonderful - mostly songs from 'Beyond the Missouri Sky' but the highlights were 'Blues for Pat' and a wonderful 'Blue in Green'. I've seen Pat many times but never as cheerful and happy as this time - two giants with a strong admiration for each other. Great, just great.
L
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: LuckLess Pedestrian:
June love. I have been thinking about whether or not to make the Syracuse show. As you may remember from your undergraduate days, there's a bar called Fagen's right down the hill from Syracuse University's campus which was popular with the law students when I studied there. If you're thinking about going to the State Fair as well, let me know. Meet me on the quad and we'll down some cold martinis at Fagan's for old times sake before the show.
Love,
Ward
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Just received a newsletter which tells informs me of the local music scene and noticed a new band:
"The Suffering Fuckheads"
God that's great.
Fezo: My understanding is Dickey's excessive alcohol intake and abusive personality lead to his departure from the Allman Brothers. This is unsubstantiated Internet rumor, however, he definitely has a documented history of both abuses. To take this conjecture a step further it would make sense that Greg doesn't want this type of behavior hanging around since he's battled the drug demon most of his adult life. I understand he's clean now?
Also, John Fisher and Mike West at KMTT interviewed him a few weeks ago and I must say Greg sounded in GREAT spirits. He was funny, talkative, honest and appreciative. Though I've heard him in other interviews, he's usually content leaving the talking to other band members. I was quite surprised.
Playing the Puyallup Fair later this Summer. Really looking forward to it. I've seen ABB play 5 times and they've NEVER let me down.
StAl
User: fezo | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: what St. Al said
and Warren Haynes is back with the touring band which helps--but doesn't completely--make up for the unexplicable exile of Dickie Betts
One of the best concerts I saw in the '90's was the Allmans down in Richmond. They still had Betts and the full Government Mule lineup. Just a great show.
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Roy: Don't be lumpin the Allman Brothers into categories they do not belong in. Have you heard their new CD? It's a SMOKER. Blew me away when I first heard it. Still sounding fresh after all these years. Kinda like our most favored sons. Fleetwood Mac's new albums sound like a Lindsey Buckingham solo disc and I'm unimpressed even though I love Buckingham.
Nope, nothing nostalgic about an ABB tour this year. I'm looking forward to it almost as much as you know who...
Besides, man -- the Allman's are almost a touring fixture --- like the Dead were. How many shows did they sell out at the Beacon this Winter?
New Top Ten List to vote on if you're interested. Interesting results on the last one. Frankly surprised to see the Grateful Dead make the list. And no I didn't pad the votes or cheat...
http://www.banyantrees.net/topten/
Clas: Will add the link later this weekend. Been busy round these parts. That new Fizzer virus kicked our ass here in the IT department. Friggin stoopid users...
StAl
User: twink | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: ygk: you are mos def? i thought you were a white guy.
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Aja: I'm mos def in the house for Jones Beach, and the Bayside Bacchanal. SMD, you there?
User: Aja again | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Auss! Can't find your e-mail-please send again!
Aja
User: Aja.........................daytrippin' | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Aus-thanks! I've e-mailed Lady B about the ticket. Will e-mail you directly with more details-this is gonna be a blast!
ygk-are you going to Jones Beach?
Anonypussy-oh, you poor, pitiful, little petulant thing, you. Maybe you ought to stop lurking on the computer and get yourself a girlfriend, you'll feel much better. Oh yes, don't forget May 18; it's your special day.
I love Fridays!
Aja
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Ange - oh, uhum, yeah. I have never seen that pic before. Glad they saved those Viking hats for Oslo.
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Okay guys:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/sketchesandstrangeloops
Send in your music on the address you find on the link.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Yeah Snakie, stop lurking.... ;-)
Did you get your concert promoter question answered? I don't know who the promoter is, for the tour. Anyone know?
Bill: You have the Aja tape? You bad boy. :-)
Howard: Joylessly. Can you imagine? Would that make Steely Dan sound like Volga Boat Men? lol
Clas: Don't remember Viking hats? Here you go.
http://www.steelydan.com/Images/2k/europe/wardrobe.jpeg
Royscam: More Eagles references? That would be too funny.
DB: Would that trip be with or without Linda? She can't fly toward the end.
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: yo anon - I mean, really now.
Hoops is a great guy and runs a great website and community.
But honestly, you're "declaring" hoops the "ruler".........of what?!?!?!
So hoops "wins" somethin' huh?
He's the ruler of his domain: www.dandom.com - Great! Fabulous!
So is St. Al: Opinionated. Sarcastic! Fabulous! Wonderful!
But if you're coming on the board to "give hoops his props" because his 'content' is a bit different than St. Al's, I think you should go back to class - what, you're in 3rd grade now? Good boy......
Jeezus - grow the fuck up!
ygk
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Hoops rules, obviously.
Hey Mu, looks like you made the idiot's posse. Congrats.
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: ( hell to late as usual HI MOLL )
bollocks Ian !!!
I just got back from town when i got your message, Having just ordered the CD & DVD-A both for 16-99 each.
One for the panel.
Got a tax rebate today ú636.00
A, spend it on flights & concert tickets
B, spend it on the new baby
C, spend it on the new bathroom
D, spend it
Heard from MC this week, he's fine.
Any thoughts regarding Walters comments on the re-issuing of previous material.
Bill: give them the tapes back will you.
Cyn: getting nervous yet? / bring umbrella
Lady Bayside: Might make it to your party after all.
SH: stop lurking & say Hi
JJ: need anything e-mailing over ?
Dano: head hurt ?
TCC PtII ....fantastic.
User: Molly the Mistress of Mayhem | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Greetings to all of my favorite Steely Folks! I've missed y'all.
Wild Bill, What have you done to get Hoops so pissed? I leave you alone for a few weeks and come back to find you banned from Dandom. Were you dancing on the tables in the Green room, telling rude jokes ...asking Luckless Pedestrian about her breasts again? I've warned you about those things Wild Bill...lol lol If it's any consolation, I still love you Wild Bill. I guess Hoops won't be attending our wedding though. ;-)
WJAZ, my Lord you're still among us Sugar! I am so happy to see your posts. I thought I'd lost you to the Bay City Rollers reunion tour Bud!
BB, I would have loved to seen you all in the U.K. I am expecting lots of details and photos. *hugs and kisses*
Bluz, Deck and I have been vacationing in Florida. Thanks for the messages Sweetness! You're the best. Give my love to everyone..especially Zan and Fife.
Cyn, I feel so left out! First you give trampoline to Snakie and then treat me as the red-headed stepchild :( I don't even get crackers...lmao I wish you much happiness Honey.
Mu, I refuse to call you a whore even in jest. I will visiting my brother in Austin soon. Wanna meet up for a drink? I promise to be on my best behavior *wink*
St Alphonso, thanks for missing me ;-) You are still the finest looking man in North America. (and the sweetest) *mmmmmmmmmwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh*
To the person singing the praises of the Green Room While I have no bad opinions or ill feelings towards Hoops or the folks who choose to frequent his chat venue; I must say I think you have a lot of nerve. You didn't seem to mind the people in Banyan Trees chat when you visited there dog drunk and treating us all as your support group. Somehow I doubt the ladies in the Green room would be as tolerant of your drunken declarations of love and verbal abuse. I overlooked much because I thought you were basically a good man. I see that I was mistaken. You asked me numerous times about my love for the Viking. While he had his problems and faults, I never doubted that Peter loved both me and my child. Even though I am now with another man, he still asks me about myself and the things that I hold dear in my life. He is still my friend. Your assertions that you were "the Viking" were a joke. Peter, is more stand-up and caring by accident than you could ever hope to be. Furthermore, I knew without a doubt that when Peter gave me his heart, it was mine exclusively. He never tried to make every woman he encountered. While I can't speak for Josie and the other women you tried to "befriend" in Banyan, I hope I never have the misfortune of meeting up with you there again.
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Bill: I think they should add a 3rd segment of touring, if only to be able to announce:
"Steely Dan - the Third Leg"
ygk
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: St. Al: Thought about moving North?
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030515.wpot0516/BNStory/National/
didja get?
ygk
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Wjaz,
Just got off the phone with Zsa Zsa Gabor and Eddie Arnold.
They sound significantly younger than they used to be.
Must be all that fresh air in Green Acres. Or alternatively it could
be viagra. Goober called to say he scored tickets to Steely Dan down
in West Palm Beach. He asked me to ask you if he could borrow a few
bucks to replace the spark plugs in his old pickup truck. He and
Mr. Drucker are gonna take turns driving.
Aussie,
What is that artwork on the building in front of Union Square Park
supposed to be? It's like a big splattery gold thing with a smoking hole
in the middle of it. I thought it was a bakery at first. I was wrong.
Orchestra Section A, Row B here. I think we both have a great opportunity
to toss rubber bats on stage during "Don't Take Me Alive" with the seats
we've got. (Wait, let's save that for the Ozzie Ozbourne concert...)
Snakehips,
Thats 84 plus 41. See why standing for six hours is a problem?
Hell, just living for six hours is a problem at this age.
Steely Dan Leg 1, 2 and whatever?
Is it possible that D&W intend to add more legs to this tour?
Who knows how many legs this thing might have? This is Don and Walt we're
talking about here no? For all we know this tour might have like 60 legs
or whatever. I can't imagine them not doing a European leg. Yes, and what
about Asia and Antartica? And lets not forget the SD fandom on Mars.
I wouldn't be suprised if this tour has like four legs to it. Who knows?
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: HI ANON!
User: Howard | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Beerberian - thanks. It must have appeared today on amazon?
Just ordered it from play.com - thanks for the tip. Was slightly worried when I noticed the track listing wasn't right - Last Mall not even listed, and a couple of typos in the other songs. I think they just screwed up and it IS the right CD.
Howard
User: Anon | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Hi YGK
User: Beef Stroganoff | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Don't forget, everyone, Sunday May 18th is National Masturbation Day!
Celebrate with someone you lo**, like, swapped spit wit, or, hell, just
Celebrate with someone!
BS
User: Gina | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Howdy GB-ers.
Kinda fatigued waiting around for all kinds of.
Regarding a European tour ... they better! :-)
Lunch a keyword LOL
Missed out on Mike Manieri giving a clinic in my friend's house the other day. Was invited but too fatigued because of work. Did see the pics and all that afterwards. His name rings many Steps Ahead bells.
Ok.
Have a nice weekend everyone :-)
A Banyan Tree 4 Blaise Bow,
G.
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Oh YEAH!
If you didn't get the idea already,
LADY BAYSIDE is Hostessing a HUGE Bash for the Jones Beach Show. It's a Friday night, and there may be some extracurricular festivities post show.
If anyone is in or will be in the NYC Region 'round the Jones Beach show, make sure you log into the NYC Dandom list for all the details.
nyc@dandom.com
ygk
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Aja: Jet Blue is a JFK lander - they also do wonderful trips to Ft. Meyers Beach, home of David J. Moore, btw - and I believe Lady Bayside has offered a spare ticket, 8th row or something like that.
But do that if you are spooked on the 9/11. Regardless the local New York DOMC will attend the Roseland shows.......
ygk
User: Beerberian | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: HOWARD; It is on Amazon but way cheaper on Play.com .....
User: Roy.Scam | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: t~ Good words on the Kid C guitar solo: beautiful euphoria with an underlying sense of sadness. -- When I read Kerouac's "On the Road" it struck me that he talked about sadness as a feeling that should be savored: an important, almost pleasurable part of life. (What does Kid Charlemagne have to do with Kerouac? I don't know, but that's the mood I get from those guitar solos. Especially the solo at the end of the song.)
For songs whose music is truly inappropriate to the subject, I suggest Mack the Knife and Maxwell's Silver Hammer as prime examples.
This year I've noticed public appearances by Chicago, the Allman Brothers, Steppenwolf, Fleetwood Mac, and a few others. Steely Dan is the only such appearance that doesn't strike me as just a nostalgic reunion thing. Not only don't they rest on their laurels, you can't even get them to perform half of their laurels. How many groups do concerts and never play their most succesful hit record?
That tiny clip of the song "Everything Must Go" sounds terrific. If I'd never heard of Steely Dan, I think that music-byte might prompt me to buy this CD (but that's just me, I give great honor to my own impulses.)
Year of the Blues? ~ Not to be political or anything, but wouldn't that be an apt title for either of the last two years, or the next two?
A last thought~ In the seventies, the Eagles did a tacitly apocalyptic song called "The Last Resort". Now Steely Dan is apparently doing a tacitly apocalyptic song called "The Last Mall". To paraphrase Joanne Worley of Laugh In, "Is this another eagle joke?"
User: Howard | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message:
angel - thanks for the tip-off about those new interview clips on the ODP. More good stuff!
Donald's comment about not using synths because of the tuning problems was interesting. I read a comment of his about synth-tuning problems on the Nightfly - something about the synths making his head feel like it was in a vice! It's amazing that these guys are sensitive to the tiniest nuances that just pass most people by.
I like the "two categories of innovation in music technology", and the jokey comments about trying to grind down the new band and get them to play "joylessly".
Howard
P.S I still don't see any info about EMG at amazon.co.uk - what's the problem? I hope they add it soon.
User: TBC | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Anon - "Cough, cough, bullshit cough" ???
I got it - You're the cheating major from "Who wants to be a millionaire right ??????
User: Anon Lurker | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Aja- I've been lurking here for a long time. I've noticed you always have an excuse when it comes to missing a Steely Dan show. "I fell off my bike" "I can't get off work" "I don't have enough money" Yet you always find time to travel to Danfests in New Orleans or follow The Steely Damned WHEREVER they play. Now you're using the tragic events of September 11th for the reason not to come to New York City. How convenient. You have found "the mother of all excuses" Aja..you're so full of shit it's not even funny. The terrorists win Aja..... you loose. You ain't coming to Jones Beach either. Nice try. cough cough bullshit cough.
User: Jim# | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: Cynny: Did you pack the 'gator yet? You know how airport security is these days. . .
NYC Danizens: Sounds suspiciously like a fest is brewing in the Apple.
User: Beerberian | Month: 4 | Day: 16
Message: www.Play.com - DVDA of EMG Includes the video piece 'Steely Dan Confessions', discography,song lyrics, photo gallery, and production credits. avail on the 9th
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: ...too many...
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Aja: The ampitheatre in Wantaugh, New York is a wonderful venue for a show, especially an evening with Steely Dan. The single drawback is that if you're seated well away from the stage, I have personally found that much of the sound is lost across the ocean. Great seats are the best for Jones Beach. That said, the best thing about the venue is the beach itself and the ambiance that it exudes naturally on its own. When the boys played there a few years ago, I made it a point to dip into the Atlantic which even in late August is brisk temperature wise.....I found it a wonderful pre-concert ritual, and I expect to do the same this time around as well.
Roseland as a venue is far more synthetic BUT smaller, insuring a more closeness with the group irrespective of where you are...you will be standing unless you have reserved tables on the upper floor. The sound will be more in your face for sure.
Hope it's helpful.
Yours,
Aus
User: C | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Pat - did you get my mail? You have to many addresses, I understand you can't keep up with them.
User: C @ W | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Lars - it was Aftonbladet. Jens Peterson. The best song was "What a fool believes" and the not so good thing was the long intro to "It keeps you running". Tried to find the article now, this morning, but it wasn't there anymore.
"He's got silver in his hair, silver in his beard and gold in his voice..."
User: steviedan | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: lars, was that metheny/haden show duo or with a band ? a little color on that would be nice...
...oh yeah, and i'll wager that nick is a wannabe guitar hero who thinks kurt cobain was a genius. clear dextrousness envy...
maybe d&w should have called neil young in for the session...
User: Mr. LaPage's field trip | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Hey St. Al - Don't squeeze the Charmin:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/134745800_webclasstrip15.html
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: JUNE CARTER CASH
R.I.P.
She was 73 years old.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Nah, it was "Dextrose exuberance" from an order of double chocolate banana shakes!
Note how the how the beginning of the outtro: dee dah da-da-da-dee-da reminds me of the threatening clavinet that starts the intro - take the ominous sound, turns it around into an energetic get the hell outta town romp...
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: yep, the late 70's were all about "dextrous exuberance", lol...
User: t | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Lars - tell Nick, if you see him ;-), that my take is that the sound of the solo isn't necessarily "joy", but "euphoria", which fits with nicely with the theme. Possibly the "euphoria" of the the drug business - the minor celebrity, the outlaw vibe, and the drugs themselves. And back in the day (the late 70's) no one in the drug culture was really mourning the "death of the 60's", they were too busy partying in the moment.
I think the solo fits perfectly.
User: The Jazz Singer | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Please join jazz singer Zan Gardner live fom her home in Philly..Friday/tomorrow 9:30 a.m. pacific time..on KSDS-fm.org.
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Me, if I was coming to NYC, I'd take the train. I like the fact that you can see parts of the country that you never see everyday. I like planes, but I get cramped next to people who tend to show off bad habits. Exs: Picking their noses, not washing before getting on plane, someone telling you stories of theirlife that you may not find entertaining, someone who likes Fabian.
That's why I would prefer a train ride. Plus fees may increase at Pittsburgh National Airport makes things easy for me to think about trains. Oh, and on planes you can only see clouds.
User: Aja again | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: 'cept the Roseland show will require flying into NYC on September 11-sorry, but I'm not tempting fate........
Aja
User: Aja.........................daytrippin' | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Flagrantly posting right under my boss's nose right now, but this NYC wing ding is sounding fun. But now there's a choice: Jones Beach in August, or Roseland in September? Aus, YGK, Lady B, whatdya think?
Expedia seems to have the best rates so far.
Aja
User: wormy | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: hey auss, aja ygk
may have to make a NYC gig
Roseland in the fall sounds nice
wt
Last date of the tour sure to vary a song or two
User: Lars | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: uh ... Nick Hornby have a new book about (not a boy) "songs" - '31 songs' - and writes about guitar solos. Type 1 is were a brilliant musician fills the bars imaginatively "but not necessarily appropriately". He uses the solo on 'Kid Charlemagne' as an example of this! " ... a guitar solo of such extraordinary and dextrous exuberance that you end up wondering where it came from, and quite what it has to do with the dry ironies of the song's lyrics". The solo is "pure joy" but "what the sound of pure joy has to do with 'Kid Charlemagne' and the death of the sixties remains unclear".
Well I don't know ... . Maybe he has a point there, maybe not. Ever heard about contrasts Nick?
L
User: fezo | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: my three live best of all possible worlds choices:
Gaucho
Gaslighting Abbie (please!)
Haitian Divorce
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Aja: Newark, LaGuardia or John F. Kennedy airports work just fine. There are frequent an inexpensive (circa 20 bucks) bus shuttles from all three into Manhattan. Depending on when you get in, I may be able to get you myself personally. Mr. Beatty's Jet Blue recommendation is excellent for price sensitivity but I believe that Jet Blue only flies into one of the three aforementioned airports.
Don't forget to pack the BBB. Oh, and if you can stop by that famous fish taco place in San Diego, I forgot the name, definitely bring a few of those!!!
:0)
Aus
User: Lars | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: C: I haven't read one single comment on MmcD's concert down here. Which paper did you read? 700 persons in a hall for 1200 isn't that bad ... . Saw Pat Metheny & Charlie Haden in Copenhagen the other day - must be THE concert this year (no leg III i suppose.
L
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Don't miss the audio streams on the ODP. Becker and Fagen weigh in on such things as the missing last note in The Last Mall and the fact that after shaking the hands of about 600 Berklee graduates, D and W couldn't play their instruments for days. Check it all out at Steelydan.com.
User: Randy | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message:
Dansters,
To thread or not to thread; that is the question. At this time of another pending release and tour dates, one begins to speculate (perhaps prematurely) on WHAT will be played at _____________ (fill in the location of the gig you're attending). Here's some wishful thinking for your perusal or scrolling (the majority of which will surely never shift air molecules in a live capacity):
1. "Everything You Did" (A fine candidate for a Becker vocal treatment)
2. "The Nightfly"
3. "Night By Night"
4. "Gaucho"
5. "Two Against Nature"
6. "Junkie Girl"
7. "I Got The News"
8. "The Fez"
9. "Your Gold Teeth II"
10. "Lucky Henry"
Randy
NIGHTFLY**@aol.com
User: ed b | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: AJA,
I meant to NYC from San Diego
Ed
User: ed b | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Aja,
Try Jetblue to San Diego
Ed
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Aja: even if it's not, that's ok - First pressing is gone......
ygk
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Aus: my, my, my - back to back Roseland. And you know how much I love dividends.......and after all, you are an SMD.
Do you know the Top 10 Reasons being an SMD Rocks?
ygk
User: Aja...................still not working | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Aus-I'll bring rolled tacos from San Diego-the guacamole more than makes up for the powder. And one other thing I promised you a looooong time ago-wowowow! Am researching airfares right now-what's the best airport to fly in to? Remember, to a San Diegan, New York means Manhattan. Anything else and I'm completely lost.
YGK-the check's in the mail-really!
Aja
User: lp, again | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: the cruise ships are already making their way into the harbor - a sure sing of spring - though the wind chill in the bay is a cool 27 degrees
the cruise ship from monday came from germany, it was aptly dubbed the SARS Tour Boat since its many stops along the way here included the SARS ports- great, love that 10 day incubation period
where to next, captain, toronto?
LOL
distant lights, for sure...
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Aja: Leg UP! Try to make Jones Beach if you can...we won't disappoint, even without powdered bread being served up in Wantaugh concession stands.
YGK: My, my....so now the boys add Roseland to their tour list. Did I ever tell you how close I am with Roseland management types? Can you spell b-a-c-k-s-t-a-g-e access???? Stick with me kiddo, the dividends are dee-lish.
Aus
User: Bad Sneakers | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Clas - You have mail
Cyn - It will be so nice to give you a Dan welcome to Britain !! If the last GB fest is anything to go by you will need to go into training to party with some of these folks.
Video clip 2 - What a hoot !! Is that girl for real ?? - Walter and Donald remind me of "The Odd couple" with Walter and Jack - But Walter couldn't play bass like that and Jack never wrote Blues beach did he ?? - or something like that :-)
User: Aja.........................delurking for Leg II | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Leg UP! Coors Amp, here I come! And quite possibly Jones Beach, as well, or maybe enGORGEment, or NYC.......
Cyn-I'm touched! I hope I can do the fruit justice. Here's raising a drink to ya, and wishing you a long and happy journey. Once more for old time's sake: WAITREEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS! Fill my drink!-and where's the possum and grits I ordered a half hour ago?
Aja
User: C @ Work | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: But I do remember a pic from when ABBA entered the stage in Austin, they were dressed up in boots and Stetson hats.
And when they played Knoxville, Bj÷rn Ulveaus played the banjo during the song "Does your mother know?".
User: glass houses, stones, etc... | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: "...according to one report, Enron and its officials spent $2 million on George W. Bush's political career alone, starting with his first (unsuccessful) run for Congress."
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20020118.html
$900,000 for the entire DNC over eight years vs. $2,000,000 for George W. alone. Count the zeros and do the fuzzy math...
more light reading:
http://www.progressive.org/pc0900.htm
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Good News, Senor Mayor-to-Be-Elect-ed: The photos, actually, were taken by Petre Parkre's assistant, an Anon who goes by the name, Roving Reportre.
Yes, they were fabulous! And where was the back cover shot taken, do you know?
ygk
User: After a second thought: | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Cyn - I'd prefer those boxes with Crack.
/C
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Uhum, Viking Hats? Sorry Angel, don't recall that one. Only remember a pic of Walter Becker at a bronze statue of a Lion, in Stockholm, - byline:
Cats in Stockholm.
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: YGK: Hey Malcolm. Got it. Thanks bud. And the pictures are awesome! Who was behind that shutter, Petre Parkre?
Bill: You were right around the corner from my flat and didn't even swing by for a cocktail and a quick hi hi hi there? What gives? Orchestra C, row A, seats 1 and 2 at the Tommy Hilfiger Jones Beach Theatre August 22,2003 Steely Dan show baby. That's where I'll be dude.
Aus
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Hey Clas: I hope for all your sakes, they end up over in Europe. I got the feeling last time, that they seemed to have the most fun on that European leg of the trip. Remember the Viking hats they made and the Steely Dan Show song they wrote for you all. :-)
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Ange - with all due respect for "the world situation" I can't believe that would be the reason for Steely Dan not touring Europe.
Jackson Browne was here, so was Mike mcDonald, and many others.
If they're not touring it's probably lack of interest from the European audience, that is, the tickets would be too expensive for the fanatic fans.
---
Cyn - cotton? Just send it in.
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: DJMitch- One question. Which football team came close to the Super bowl?
;)
User: WJAZ | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Bill, now that was a classic post...
I am 40 in SMALL COMMUNITY NC, and I figured out a few here...
*DON'T USE TURN SIGNALS(everyone knows where your going anyway) Subtract 1
*SPRING & FALL LAST 3.75 MONTHS EACH HERE - Subtract 4
*2/3 OF FOLKS YOU PASS ON ROAD WAVE AT YOU - Subtract 2
*FOLKS LEAVE CARS RUNNING AND DOORS OPEN "just to run in the post office
for a minute..." (Regardless of time of the year...) - Subtract 1
*NO MODERN ART DISPLAYS - Subtract 2
*SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK YOU WILL GET STOPPED ON THE ROAD TO WAIT FOR SPUD
KEMP'S GOATS TO CROSS - Subtract 2
*GOVERNOR MIKE EASLEY (just don't get in a race car with him) - Subtract 2
*RADIO STATION TOWER LIGHTS DOTTING THE SURROUNDING MOUNTAIN TOPS (this
one's for you Bluz...) - Subtract 4
*SUNSET - LOOKING TOWARD EUSTIS BEASLEY'S BARN - Subtract 4
*STOP AND SPEAK TO "The Lawnmower Man", A FELLA WHO SITS ON A RIDING
LAWNMOWER OUTSIDE A LOCAL STORE - Subtract 3
Okay, that alone makes me 15...if I can FedEx any of this stuff to you let me know.
KD
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Bill: Too funny!!!! Actually I try not to drive the mean streets of LA, but even the train has become a bit of an adventure.
Glad to see Leg II is up and running. Lucky for me that the night I would have chosen for the Universal Concert, is the one I have. Hubby off on Wednesday night. :-)
LP: Speaking of crossing the ponds, Hubby also agrees with you. Especially with the world situation right now.
Roseland Ballroom for 2 nights!!!!! Talk about a cool night out.
Wormy: Great spots around the country to choose from. Do it.
User: Cyn | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: hahaha...WJAZ...I'm not dying...just leaving the country. I'm leaving you a 6ft ladder...so you can climb up from the foot of Mt. Belzoni.
User: snakehips | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message:
Cyn - lol! And the stories that Rude Waitress must tell in that book...thanks!
"Reelin' in the Sheaves"?...oh that Lizzie! wonder how much she charged them for that ride? ;-) and isn't it amazing how Donald keeps such a straight face...although i did see a smile from Walter
Bill - you're 84? yikes!
St Al - tour sponsor info please? :-)
sh
User: DJ Mitch | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Jimbo: Your right no Pittsburgh this time (probably never again) because the 2vn show bombed at Starlake crowd was a little over 7,ooo in a place that holds over 20,000......... try Cleveland`s Blossom Tuesday August 12.Donald`s folks live in suburban Cleveland .......
User: WJAZ | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Cyn...did someone say "bequeath"?
User: Floridavid | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Cyn-Thanks so much.You can Imagine the size of my Drum related memorabilia collction after a lifetime of Playing. i'll find a nice spot for the sticks and think of you when I look at them.
Cara Mia- Thanks for the Update...Tampa Sundome? I'm thrilled they're trying a new Venue~!
Taxi Confessions very addicting.
User: Luckless Pedestrian at home | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: hey in here
cyn - thanks - it's a perfect memento!!!
have fun packin!!!
angel - glad you got tix, that's great!!!
leg II sounds great for people on the left coast!
my bet for today is they won't travel over either pond, just a hunch
User: Cyn | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: I, Cyn, being of somewhat sound mind and body hereby bequeath these items to my friends.....
To: Jim#...a lovely video of Pauls sister making a complete ass of herself at the funeral...I hope ya learn the words to "That Song"...I never did.What the hell was that song anyway?
Snakie...Well, I wanted to leave you my first edition "Eloise at the Plaza"..but I'm taking it. Instead you'll get my version of the same book, titled " RudeWaitress at the No Tell Motel".
Tones...its "sink" or swim, buddy!
LP...I'm leaving you one of my antique coffee grinders...So when you lose electric on the Island..you still can grind those beans.
FlaDave... an extra set of drumsticks from Eians foray into the world of drumming..(lasted 2 months)
Oiage (and you know who you are)... My black light to go with your Lava lamp.
Aja...one of my straw hats to keep you from burning when you go to another Jazzfest in N.O. I added fruit to the top...for that Carmen Miranda look.
bluz...my last 3 boxes of crackers..with and without salt.
clas...my material (you ask'd for peoples material)I have loads, velvet, cotten, hemp..etc.
St. Al...Bill's address..SS number..and shirt size.
Bill..St Al's address..SS number..and shirt size.
More to follow...am going back to the "dig". After I have another drink!
User: wormtongue | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: damn
closest second leg date is Memphis and my family weekend
May have to fly for this one
Bill - Angel grew up in NY - actually in Denny Dias' home turf
I think those freeways in LA LA land probably age one as well
wt
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Angel,
You must understand something my dear.
I am 41 in NEW YORK YEARS. This is significantly older than you are in
CALIFORNIA YEARS. I believe the formula goes something like this...
Overpopulation - Add 5 years
Six months of Winter - Add 4 years
Long lines as the mall - Add 2 1/2 years
High Taxes - Add 10 years
The Long Island Expressway at rush hour - Add 9 years
Annoying Nieghbors - Add 6 years
Kids at Jones Beach with boom boxes - Add 3 years
High Auto Insurance Rates - Add 5 years
People in cars with cell phones - Add 6 1/2 years
Jaywalkers - Add 1 year
Governor George Pataki - Add 3 years
Golfers with striped pants and wing-tipped shoes - Add 2 years
The Long Island Railroad - Add 4 years
NYC Cab Drivers - Add 23 years
Now I'm not sure exactly how old that makes me but it's WAY TOO OLD to
to stand for 6 hours at a concert I assure you.
:)
User: John F. Kerry | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: This is so great!
Charles R. Smith
Wednesday, May 14, 2003
Dirty Deals and the DNC Cash Machine
Fiction writers documented the fall of Enron as a scandal to be linked to President Bush. Yet the U.S. Commerce Department has just released over 5,000 pages of documents that detail the Enron scandal during the Clinton years.
The Commerce materials outline a long-standing and very close relationship between the Clinton administration and Enron. For example, in March 1999 U.S. Commerce Secretary William Daley's trade delegation to China produced several sweet business deals, including a special little gem for Enron.
Enron International China Pipeline, a wholly owned subsidiary of Enron Corp. of Houston, Texas, signed a memorandum of understanding with China National Petroleum Corporation to jointly develop a natural gas pipeline.
"Enron International approached FCS (Foreign Commercial Service) Beijing for advocacy support for its joint venture to build a 4,000 km, $400 million natural gas pipeline from reserves in Sichuan Province to markets in and around Wuhan in eastern China," states an April 1999 Commerce document from Ivone Yang.
"CO Adams worked with Enron and USDOC's Advocacy Center to win the Chinese authorities blessing so that Enron International was able to sign a Memorandum of Understanding during Secretary Daley's visit to China in March 1999 with its partner, China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC)," notes the Commerce Department memo.
The deal also sealed the first major U.S. energy effort with China National Petroleum. However, China National Petroleum already has great experience at building pipelines under hostile conditions. CNPC is a Chinese army-owned firm that currently operates an oil pipeline inside war-torn areas of Sudan.
According to an article published in Investor's Business Daily by John Berlau, "Chinese Oil Firm Listing on NYSE Faces Fight Due to Terrorist Links," CNPC operates an oil pipeline through the contested areas inside Sudan.
"Canada's Foreign Affairs Ministry recently found that the oil pipeline that CNPC is building with Sudan's government and others is 'exacerbating the conflict' that has already killed 2 million people," wrote Berlau. "Not only will the oil revenue go to fuel the war effort but Sudan's government is using the pipeline project's airstrip for bombing missions."
Green Gore Goes Red
The work to help Enron even touched the king of "Green" - Al Gore. The Chinese deal with Enron has its roots with former Vice President Al Gore. In 1998, Gore wrote the Chinese leadership, urging them to sign lucrative contracts with Enron.
"In mid 1997, then State Development and Planning Commission (SDPC) Vice-Chairman Zeng Peiyan and the Secretary of Energy signed an Energy and Environment Cooperation initiative. Under that initiative, the two side have held two oil and gas forums and, last spring in Beijing, a national gas experts meeting," notes a 1998 Commerce Department document.
"The largest project to date in promoting natural gas use is the Guangdong Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) terminal, to be constructed near Shenzhen... Several U.S. companies are actively pursing foreign partner status, including ExxonMobil, Enron and Chevron," noted the Commerce document.
"Vice President Gore recently wrote to Premier Zhu, expressing his hope that the Guangdong LNG project would become an example of successful U.S.-China clean energy cooperation," states the Commerce Department document.
African Enron
In 1995, the Clinton-Gore effort to help Enron win deals crossed all bounds of decency by using humanitarian aid as leverage. The Clinton-Gore National Security Council and Vice President Gore strong-armed Mozambique so that Enron could obtain an exclusive deal using threats of aid cuts as leverage.
Enron failed to match the terms offered by South African firm Sasol for the giant Pande gas fields. However, Enron Corp.'s plan to develop Mozambique's Pande natural gas field was saved from cancellation by a blunt threat from Clinton Security Council head Anthony Lake to cut off future U.S. humanitarian aid to Mozambique.
When Mozambique threatened to cancel the Enron Pande gas deal, Lake promptly suspended a $135 million humanitarian aid payment. Lake also wrote a threatening letter directly to the president of Mozambique.
"There is at the moment a debate of unprecedented intensity in Washington with regard to my government's overall budget, and particularly, funding for foreign assistance. Mr. President, we hope for a mutual effect on Africa on this debate. However, it will become increasingly difficult to defend such programs if some are able to argue that promising countries like Mozambique are not moving ahead rapidly to ensure economic growth through resources development," wrote Lake.
In the end, Mozambique caved, giving the exclusive deal to Enron over a South African firm. However, the only market for the Mozambique gas was a steel plant in South Africa. It would take two visits from VP Gore and Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary to South Africa to convince the Pretoria government to buy the Enron deal.
Enron DNC Money
During the 1990s, Enron CEO Ken Lay personally contributed $11,000 to former President Bill Clinton for his two campaigns. In addition, Lay gave Vice President Al Gore $13,750 for his 2000 election campaign.
During Clinton's eight years in office, the company and Lay contributed about $900,000 to the Democratic Party. Former Enron officials said an important part of their strategy to win favor with the Gore campaign was a significant increase in the company's donations to Democrats. In 1999 and 2000, the company gave $362,000 in soft-money donations to Democrats.
Most Americans were not aware of Enron's dealings with a Chinese army oil company engaged in oil-for-blood in Sudan. The mass media neglected to inform the U.S. public about the cruel use of humanitarian aid by the Clinton administration that greased an Enron deal in Africa. The fiction writers who spin your news never mentioned the Enron donations to the DNC.
If you paid attention to any of the mainstream media outlets, you can be certain that Enron never existed during the Clinton years.
User: Howard | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message:
So, are they going to do any gigs outside the USA? PLEASE?
Cara Mia - thanks for the invite, but I have to figure out the old time/money problem to be able to come over to the states for the gigs.
Now I know Don and Walt had a good time laughing at all the quirks of European culture last time they were here (http://www.steelydan.com/euromemo.html), but come on guys... just because the typical UK club sandwich is below par doesn't mean you can't come back to play more concerts!
Maybe I should spend the money that would have gone on UK SD concert tickets on lottery tickets for the next few months. If I win the jackpot, I'll be coming over to the USA!
... and as for the problems of dealing with foreign currency (see above link): who had the idea of having all the notes exactly the same size and exactly the same colour, eh? Which country was that?
Howard
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 15
Message: Okay, for those who are going to send in songs to the 4th GBook CD, here's the link:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/sketchesandstrangeloops
Or click at the URL above.
I hope our fabolous mr StAl will link the page to this Gbook soon. If he does, I promise he'll get a backstage pass to my kitchen where he can watch me play in the livingroom (if he ever comes to Sweden that is).
I know the timing isn't the best, with those Steely Dan and their CD and stuff coming out now, but, they will fade away, eventually, so bookmark this site, you gonna need it a rainy day.
I had a hell construct that page, the pics went gone and I started to sing;
û JPeg it will come back to me?
So start compose, and after that: record. For those who has material already, please send it to me.
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: WHAT! NO PITTSBURGH DATE?
BUMMER!
But you know what? I might go for the New York date. Sept 12 or 13.
At least it's a compensation. Let me know when tickets go on sale.
User: Beerberian with Euros to spend | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: DON, WALT !!!!!!!!!!! Over Here PLEASE !!!!!!!! My Birthday 20th November would be real nice...
User: C | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: SteveeDan, W1p? - I need to know what covers you are going to submit to the GBook CD, I have to have a talk with NCB.
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: Is THAT the leg II? Does that mean they're not playing Europe?
Well, what could you expect, Mike mcDonald's having an audience of only 700 people in Sweden.
User: suedave | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: It doesn't stop of new tour dates but there are new interviews too! Check out the promos!!!
Lizzie segment is still a hoot after watching it at least a dozen times!
User: steviedan blindsided ! | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: yes, taken totally offguard by a dan cover while listening to "song for the geese" by jazz vocalist mark murphy (1997). mark had just finished the hoagy carmichael tune "baltimore oriole" (a tune about billie holliday) and i'm thinkin', "what a nice record" and suddenly the next cut begins...
... and i'm not really feelin' this cut, then it reveals itself to be "do it again" !!!...
... and i'm still not feelin' this cut ! too fast, slurry chorus, not even recognizable until he started the lyrics. it had some moments there, and it was a kick to be blindsided by a fair to middling sd cover on an otherwise near excellent album, but the overall arrangement crippled the composition...
surreal.
User: leg II announced! this is more like it------- cara mia | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: See you all in NYC, Atlanta, maybe Memphis and perhaps the West Coast in September!
Thanks, steviedan, Gina (my beau moves to Den Haag next month... maybe we'll finally meet sometime), lp, Howard (wanna come see some shows in the States, HW?), and others for the greetings.
from the SD newsletter:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tour Leg II Dates Announced
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sept 10: Wallingford, CT : Oakdale Music Theatre
Sept 12: New York, NY : Roseland
Sept 13: New York, NY : Roseland
Sept 16: Tampa, FL : Sundome
Sept 17: West Palm Beach, FL : MARS Music Amp.
Sept 19: Atlanta, GA : Hi-Fi Buys Amp.
Sept 20: Memphis, TN: Shelby Farms
Sept 21: Dallas TX: Smirnoff Music Centre
Sept 23: Albuquerque, NM: Sandia C'sino
Sept 24: Phoenix, AZ : Venue TBA
Sept 26: San Diego, CA : Coors Amp
Sept 27: Las Vegas, NV : Mandalay Bay
Sept 28: Santa Barbara, CA : County Bowl
Oct 1: Los Angeles CA : Universal Amp. - ON SALE NOW
Oct 2: Los Angeles, CA : Universal Amp.
Oct 4: Concord, CA : Chronicle Pavilion
L-U-V,
cara mia
User: cabbytwo | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: some of the priceless less obvious things in cabby 2
Rita (the driver) discusting look as she has to take the suede coat up front from Lizzie
Walt goes to show Lizzie the new discs artwork and gets cut off by Don,
the look from Walt
Walt takes a sip of coffee - doesn't like it
Rita cracking up in the front seat
User: tvland | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: Hey Jimbo
you forgot musical guest on Saturday Night Live
and now...
deep thougts with Jack Handy
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: COUNTDOWN TO EMG;
26 DAYS TO GO.
Still getting a kick out the second clip from the taxicab confessions.
I don't have HBO, but if the taxicab confessionals are as good as some people say, I'll have to find a way to subscribe without asking for Digital cable.
Here's a thought;
If I was the manager for Steely Dan, which TV shows would qualify to promote the new EMG CD?
I'd say yes to:
CRANK YANKERS- I know it's a adult puppet show, and one of my new favorite programs. But they have had some musical guests in puppet form like Wu Tang Clan and Jack Black. Since the humor on Crank Yankers is sinister and mocks the muppets, that would be a cool idea.
LATE LATE SHOW- Why not Jay and Dave? Simple, no joke has been made on the show about the grammy win 2 years ago.
TODAY- Maybe, but I doubt it. But maybe Walt has a thing for Katie;)
SOUNDSTAGE- I don't know how soon the show is coming back, but if it came out sooner, then that's the best vehicle.
AUSTIN CITY LIMITS- Why not. Any show that has had Stevie Ray Vaughan, Bruce Hornsby and Little Feat deserves to call up and invite the boys.
WEEKEND TODAY- Why not. Besides, Soledad O'Brien is HOT!
That's the list of yays.
Here's my list of the nays:
THE TONIGHT SHOW-Leno's jokes suck all the time. Even the one about our boys winning the grammies.
LATE SHOW-I like Dave Letterman,but he made also fun of them, plus the backup vocalists complained of a lack of heat in the theater. Dave could afford a few heaters.
TRL-Are you kidding?
LAST CALL- See TRL, plus same ass host.
GOOD MORNING AMERICA-Charles and Diane wouldn't know the difference between Steely Dan and Blondie. Plus, Diane's failed attempt to ambush the Dixie Chicks don't make her look good for pop music fans right now.
THAT'S ALL FOLKS
User: wormy | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: topsoilant recommended releases of the month
Lucinda Williams - World Without Tears
I thought Essence was top drawer but virtually ignored compared to Gravel Road
this record plays to similiar stripped down splendor
this record is a little more jarring in places -
balanced out with delicious ballads
her touring band cut most things live in studio
the woman's wordplay and imagery - top notch
she says so much with so little
wow 3 records in 5 years - usually it's 5 years between her releases
Daniel Lanois - Shine always enjoyed Dan's work - this is an engaging step in a whole different direction (not Acadiana)
a very atmospheric laid back gripping record
the instrumentation is usually sparse, brooding, yet not dark
some slack steel, heavy acoustic, ambient echoed guitar (think his producer role on U2 spacial embellishments), sparse piano, grumbling synths and drones
his vocals are mostly restrained in the mix - delivered slow and evocatively -sounds like a gritless Peter Gabriel singing a slow piece at the bottom of his range
a chilling and varied work nearly all Daniel - Brian Blade adds laid back drums (mostly bass drum) with Bono and Emmy Lou each subtley guesting on a track
gee next month EMG and new Liz Phair
wt
User: Duck! | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: Whoa! Pee shooter! They might throw you out for that!
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: LP: I'm with you on the Ticket Master thing. After a harrowing 1/2 hour of my life, I too was ready for a stiff one. Sheesh, you need to be fast on the keyboards and don't try to read the pages, obviously. After it was all over, I worried that I had just bought tickets to some other concert, not Steely Dan.
But I am now going to the Universal show. I'll be the one in the back hitting Steveedan with my pee shooter. Orchestra Pit, indeed. ;-)
Wormy: Yeah, that's the spirit, grab a hold of Steely Dan....
Randy: Good find.
Bill: You wus you. Ole, W1P, me and about 100 others stood for the better part of 5 or so hours to watch The Damned. No complaints from us. :-)
User: SteveeDan (Orch. Pit, Row GGG, Seat 15) | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: Good morning ---
I just got off of the TicketMaster site ... I decided to buy a single seat for the Los Angeles Universal Amphitheatre show on October 1st.
I hit the jackpot !!! I got into the Orchestra Pit, 7th row, 3 seats off of dead center. But I'm not excited.
Hey ... those of you in the Los Angeles area ... how would you like to see a band play your favorite Steely Dan songs for just the cost of gas and parking? Well, you can, you know.
On Sunday, May 25th, at 11 AM in Hermosa Beach come on down and see ...
(... oh wait, ... oh yeah ... S H A M E L E S S .. P L U G G I N G .. T I M E ...)
THE PRETZEL LOGIC BAND PLAYS AT FIESTA HERMOSA - FREE TO THE PUBLIC
COME ON DOWN !!!
SteveeDan (Master Shamless Plugger for Pretzel Logic)
User: wormy | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: randy
thanks for the downbeat reference
Is that Potter splashing around on the title track? love it
tried to be totally EMG virginal but those cab confessions are too funny
Steven in CT - the Nightfly similarity sounds incouraging
YGK - damn, forgot to send thou green on thy new project, doh!
David Byrne 51 today - sonder here Navy man
" One Chocolate Banana Milkshake "
and who drinks coffee from a fast food joint?
lmao
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: db:
What the hell does she mean "70's"?????!!!!!
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: Speculation: The 10 or 20 minutes of video material that is being packaged with two of the three versions of EMG will be the 'Taxicab Confessions'.
Having given BB and TLM a good listen, I love them both. Very catchy. I hear something new each time I listen. Typical of Steely Dan music. Are they a bit light? I don't think so. I'd be surprised if the whole album was similar tunes. The chunk of 'Godwhacker' I heard seem a bit more complex with the Becker guitar accents acting as a counterpoint in a 'call and response' section, but I really didn't get a good listen.
I think BB recalls 'The Nightfly' in the 'feel' and vocals. I love several different sounds of the keyboards and the spicy guitar accents that lend kind of a funky groove to the pop foundation. Will sound super live!!!! I can just see (and hear) the Angel Chorus on the 'sing out' at the end.
TLM recalls IGY from 'Nightfly', but the guitar parts are more playful and woven in as sort of a musical 'narrator'. (Does that make any sense?) Super funky and rockin'. Great summertime song. And the guitar solo is Walter in peak form. So clean. I wonder how he and Herrington will split the chores live on this one?
In short, these tunes are very accessible and instantly struck a chord with me (pun intended or not, depending on whether or not you think it's a good pun). I remember hearing little snippets of 'Gaslighting Abbie' (and 'Negative Girl'?) prior to the release of 2vN. And not really 'getting' most of the tunes on that miraculous album until the third play. From then on, I 'got' them all and love 'em. I suspect that there will be cuts on EMG that may be less accessible than BB and TLM, but the fun in life is finding out.
I'm just so glad that Steely Dan lives! Long live the Dan of Steel!
User: Randy | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message:
The June 2003 issue of 'Downbeat' featuring the cover story on Steely Dan ("Steely Dan: The Ironic Renegades") might be of interest to some of you, though it is rife with errors concerning release years and song titles (usually the easiest fare to get right). The article does indicate that "Pixelene"'s lyrics (allegedly) concern virtual sex, and that the lyrical content of "Godwhacker" allegedly and hypothetically concerns an attempted assassination of "God" (or the elusive higher/alternative and discompassionate power as some of us refer/infer).
Read at your own risk and know that (a) regardless of the above criticisms and interpretations, it's good that they made the cover, (b) Chris Potter appears in the horn section for the new one, and (c) you can suss everything out for yourselves in twenty-seven days-
"Just when I say 'boy we can't miss / you are golden' / then you do this..."
- Steely Dan, 'Gaucho'
Randy
NIGHTFLY**@aol.com
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: Aus: did you get anything in the mail recently?
ygk
User: wormy | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: taxi cab confessionals
round two - oh boy
so by the time we get up to 4 or 5 I assume we have an overflowing cab
that overflowing cab ride
you can see it's fading fast
so you grab a piece of something
that you found up on the dash
those confessionals out in Vegas
getting turned down at the Sands
so you reach into your purse dear
and grab a hold of steely dan
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: ''I did get your last message - had trouble working out who Steely Dan is but was assured by my friend from work that I would know at least two songs if I heard them. Her description of what they sound like was '70's Porn Music' - interesting!!!!!!
Kid's ehh
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 14
Message: Report from Irving Plaza in NYC...
The next time I see another concert labeled "General Admission/Standing
Room Only" I'll pass. Showed up to pickup up our tickets from the
Will Call window at 7pm...Doors opened at 8pm...first act went on at
9pm...Hiatt came on at 10:30pm and played a couple of hours. That's
nearly 6 hours of standing. Believe me, after about the 3rd hour you're
ready to call it a night.
I wouldn't do another "Standing Room Only" concert if Jesus was the
headliner... Okay, maybe if Jesus was the headliner, but he better throw
in that everlasting life thing at the end or FORGET IT.
SD at Jones Beach on August 22nd, now THAT'S more like it!
User: C @ W | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: Lars - read the review from the Mike mcDonald concert - only 700 in the audience, that's a shame!
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: Is that a real whore, that girl? Or is it an actress?
User: "One chocolate-banana milkshake..." | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: That was great... yeah, I know I said I wasn't going to watch any more Txcb Cnfsns until after the album came out, but those of you who know me also know I'm not big on self control, especially where the Dan are concerned... lol...
That was too funny...
"You wanna handle this one Donald?"
Raif... uh...
toenz
User: Blues Beach | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: Hi Everybody!
I'm helping organize the Gorge Danfest, known to some of you as EN-GORGE-MENT. Sue Dave is planning a big party in Seattle the night before and others are headed to go camping there the night before. So email me if you are interested. Also, if you are on the mailling list in 2000, please sign up again since that old list got lost. email me at bluesbeachTAKETHISOUT@earthlink.net Take TAKETHISOUT out of course.
Can't wait for the show and the party.
Marci and Glen
a.k.a. Blues Beach
User: jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: MEMO TO VH1:
HEY, VH1, stop showing I love the 80's and start going back to music programming. Try Steely Dan Confessionals, that'll boost your ratings.
Saw it second time. Real cool. HOW DO YOU MAKE SENSE BY NOT MAKING SENSE? I like it.
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: Just saw the second Confessionals clip. Well, some of it, my Windows Media thing sucks in terms of video, but the young girl sitting between our boys was a hoot. Looks a lot like Rebecca Romjin Stamos, without the Mystique makeup.
Maybe Carrie-Anne Moss will show up next time (wishful thinking, Jim;)).
User: Can Can Jacques | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: Yes... fear of castration, a central, (dare I say pivotal?) Freudian theme. Has to be it. "You have to prove yourself, then the goin' in gets tough.
What do you think, Docteur Mou?
User: the real deep, cryptic, unconscious meaning of lyrics. hmm... | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: Lacan's take:
Attention all choppers
It's grand excision day
Better bid adios
It's just a swift click away
Last call
They'll go choppin' my last ball
They got the tools for surgical
And the Med is in for the jewels
Save the kicks and surprises
No more little buckeroos
It's last call
They'll go choppin' my last ball
I got a sweetheart, somethin' special
And all understand it's hard stuff
But in that mornin', that door went slammin'
She had to prove to her own strenght but my groin, it got stuck
Rooooolllllllll that *&^% back, open wide!
Kissed the freakout girl goodbye
Took the tramp two to three days
And left a bloody orifice
It's last call
They'll go choppin' my last ball
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: With every replay, it gets even funnier. Reelin' in the Sheafs? I'm peeing myself over here.
Aus
User: lp, again | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: thanks for the link on the second one - that is too good - let's hope her father doesn't sue!
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: Lord knows, I had to contend listening to those dammed cryptic lyrics without the music too! Only then, many years later, when I had the chanse to listen to both together did it all come together. I'm so there with ya babe. NOT.
:0)
Aus
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: Lars: The infrastructure to 'Nam was the Ho Chi Minh trail...no wonder you've had to put up with terrorism for 35 years, the Continent is clueless!!!, those Brits and Blair know well about IRA infrastructure - its just fluid dude...
Speaking of clueless...I just about had an aneurism watching episonde deux... ROFLMAO...Donald and Walter had to suck on those straws really hard to continue to pump blood into their brains....ummmm hum
Wait, I know Lizzie! - student on the 3rd row from the left, Spring of 1997...
User: just another cabby lover | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: lmao
"when I heard it with the music, I got it!!"
User: Luckless Pedestrian at home | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: ang, b, clas, gina - wtf
sitting here with my 10 year old patiently waiting to get onto barbie dot com - she had nasal/sinus/ear surgery yesterday - lots of goo, need to hire ghostbusters, lol (she's here with me saying "don't say that, mommy!!!!")
that taxi cab thing is hoot - a nice twist to the mtv promo crap, isn't it?
twist being the operative word
start the commotion on the player - who knew a song for a car commercial would be expanded - now that's twisted
groovy!
given the tenor of the new release, if you were trying to match the flavor of these 2 tunes in setting the playlist (not your list, mind you), what would you choose?
pretzel logic
chain lightning
turn that heartbeat over again
king of the world
throw back the little ones
janie runaway
west of hollywood
the goodbye look
tomorrow's girls
okay onto barbie dot commie
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: there there there Bill
taxi episode 2 can be found at
http://www.warnerreprise.com/asx/steelydan_epk:segment2_56-v.asx
User: Lars | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: lurking ...
doc is still, safe down in Austin (except for them dogs), solving the problems of terrorism. Doc, we have had terrorism here in Europe for 35 years and learned that there's no infra-structure to damage. You learned anything from 'nam? There's no registrerd firm in Bin Ladim's name to destroy. Only frustrated people.
Besides that, Michael McDonald's new one is a killer. Only Motown stuff! Todays fav: "How Sweet it is" - thuesday-party in the kitchen! No tickets left for his concert down here (South of Sweden) tonight.
Any thoughts about Boz Scaggs new one. Just heard 30 sec's clips on Amazon and ordered it. Sounds great. (It's not out here in Europe yet)
L
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: Episode 2 of "Steely Dan Confessions" is scheduled for 5/13.
Today is 5/13... Not to be pushy or anything but... LET'S HAVE IT!
Heading out to Irving Plaza tonight to see John Hiatt and The Goners
at 8pm. Molly are you out there?
:)
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: since = was
User: DACW - Amen Corner | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: Jimbo: How about 13 year old Michelle Wie?
ttp://www.golftoday.co.uk/news/yeartodate/news03/wie.html
She can crack out 300 yard drives!
Grace Park is very solid and young and attractive
As long as Annika doesn't play from the Red Tees and walks the course, let her Shake It!...man, it's a long time since Babe Z
Besides for Tiger Woods, this the lst Big excitement on the PGA tour was the classic movie Tin Cup!! and Gary McCord getting banned from CBS coverage by the idiot Masters Tournament for great crack about the greens being "bikini waxed"!
On the Lakers are done!!! Lakers are done!!! errrr....Spurs are done!!! Spurs are done!!! Department of Short Attention Span:
Leave it to Clas to use the deaths of 27 innocents to attempt make a political point, and a very poor one at that. As I mentioned this is the end of the beginning...Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups are not done, although their infrastructrue has been damaged. It's not surprising that this attack was in Saudi Arabia...much of Al Qaeda.s infrastructure is scattered on the border between Yemen (home of Osama) and Saudi...KSM captured, Osama likely dead, and n umerous captured, killed, or scattered in northern Iraq...this mess is 30 years in the making - it will take many more years...it's interesting that the attack coincides with powell's progress in negotiation between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs and the US removing their military presence from Saudi Arabia, as agreed upon in exchange for bases with the Iraq War...this is significant as it is a marker of desperation as Al Qaeda's political influence wanes...there's still lots of danger with spillover into Iran and Syria and looting of chem weapons sites...I'd personally like to thank Sweden for putting the same effort into solving the terrorist problem that they put into solving the "German problem" in the 1930s and 40s...I won't be responding to any more of your posts, even relevant musical ones...turn in your exams - time's up...
User: ~ | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: top ten things you'd never do in Vegas
11) go on a brooding spree
10) blow your own horn
9) give musical preconceptions to cab drivers
8) miss a Peguin paperback rack
7) be caught looking too old to R&R
6) put out something fresh and clean
5) lovely rita meter maid
.....
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: COUNTDOWN TO EMG:
28 DAYS TO GO.
Saw the Taxicab confessional with Rita and the boys. Nice that Rita knows who the guys are. Guess the Grammy exposure worked. I liked the part where Donald explained to Rita why he and Walt never explain the lyrics to their audience.
Thought: I wonder how Vijay Singh and Bob Ryan would look in a Versace dress and Blahnik high heels about right now.
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: LISTENING ALERT!!!!!
It is 11:25 am EDT here in CT on Tuesday (5/13/03). I just heard JazzFM from London say that in the next hour they would play a cut from EMG. It may be 'Godwhacker' or some other track not available in the US. I can't record here, but if anyone can.....remember who clued you in!!!
I hope everyone gets this in time. Enjoy!!!!
User: Howard | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message:
angel - as someone else mentioned, it's Walter that says that quote about not liking to touch people very much. It's after the cab driver talks about the Grammy I think, and she says "you guys should give each other a pat on the back". There's a brief pause, and then Walter responds with that quote. I agree, quite revealing...
A bad couple of days for the fight aganist terrorism. Latest reports on the attack on the Saudi capital suggest more than 10 killed, and more than 50 injured. Yesterday, 37 killed and 200 injured after a lorry loaded with explosives crashes into local government buildings in Chechnya.
Howard
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: I like the taxi stuff.
Donald hit a high note on EMG that made me fall over !!!!
funny guys
User: I choose... | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: ... Sign in Stranger (today) for the piano-intro and the call and response-thing that goes on between the vocals/piano/guitar.
The cool horn-outro is a cruel one too.
/C
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: Stevie - Brian Sweet did an update, March 2000.
Not much to it.
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: Bad Sneakers - great! I talked to my support and they said they couldn't find any reason my mail couldn't reach you. And then I tried to get a Hotmail-address, which wasn't the easiest thing, holy cow, they wanted to know everything about me, the size of my shoes and how old my dog was... and which my favourite Steely Dan-track was too:
Probably something from Royal Scam;
Sign in Stranger, Kid Charlemange or Don't take me Alive.
Or from Katy Lied:
Bad Sneakers, and yes, Dr Wu.
User: steviedan | Month: 4 | Day: 13
Message: whoa, that's too bad. ironically, tomorrow night's bass student has been working out of redding's book. we've been doing "manic depression", but the book is very much rooted in basic r&b/r&r formulas. for example, he includes "what i'd say" and chuck berry things, etc. helpfully, very bass-ic...
wow THANX, pastroek ! have we met, so to speak ? GREAT INFO ! i may have even read that in the sweet book, now that i think about it...
and speaking of the sweet book, bad sneakers, the book of which i speak is titled "reelin' in the years" 1994 omnibus press. i don't know the sweet of which you speak. is it new ?
and btw, hello gina !
User: bad sneakers | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Clas - Got the message finally !! will get back to you later today
Favourite tracks from the individual CDs ??? Too many to mention but - If pushed I suppose they would be
CBAT
Reelin' / Do it again
Countdown
Boston rag / Show biz kids
Pretzel logic
Pretzel logic / night by night
Katy lied
Dr Wu / Bad sneakers
Royal scam
Kid charlemagne / don't take me alive
Aja
Aja / Deacon blues
Gaucho
Gaucho / TWM
Nightfly
Maxine / IGY
11 TOW
Junkie girl / surf and/or die
Kamakiriad
Snowbound / On the dunes
Alive in america
TWM / Aja
TVN
Gaslighting abbie / almost gothic
EMG
EMG (so far)
These will probably change later today
OK back to work - later
User: "If I don't see you no more in this world..." | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: r.i.p. Noel Redding
User: Some times I hate to be right... | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: ...3 Americans dead and 40 injured in Riyad tonight.
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Bad Sneakers - did you get my mail this time? If not, I'll get a Yahoo-mail or something, this is getting ridiculous.
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Anyone with me on the Steely Dan lyrics? This far, on Blues Beach and The Last Mall? The shallowness of them?
Okay, smart-assed formulations, but nothing there.
User: suedave | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Hi Seattle area Danfans - KMTT played ad tonite which stated they will be spinning the World Premiere of a new SD tune on Tuesday - that's tomorrow for me but today for many of you! Don't know what time it'll be on but when they played BB for the first time it was at about 8:10 am or so....tune in if you can! Damn, they don't stream anymore.
Susan
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Hutch: Never did get through at work, but it is cooperating tonight on the 56K connection.
Our survey says: they call each other Donald and Walter, at least publicly.
St. Al: Yes, they do indeed exit incorrectly, though I go with the Donald crawling all over Walter theory of their exit from the taxicab. Good catch. Need a job in show biz?
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Hutch - yeah there's some of that 1980 era Fagen chord slut stuff...actually might sound a little more like Kulee Baba (spare demo). Check out the piano accent just before that time...does it remind you a little of Omartian with a little phrase in the outtro of Any World?
Steve CT: London's in and out on the 28 K modem sorry ass phone line here at home...a little tweak or two..
User: Hutch | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Angel - I had the same problem getting the Confessions video to stream right. Kept cutting out on me. Finally got to see it all last night. Of course I'm living in the Stone Age with my 56k dialup.
Yeah that little upward glance from DF on the "what do you do for fun" question was priceless. It's like... "Okay Walter. You wanna field this one"?
Do they call each other Donald and Walter or Don and Walt?
I'm guessing Donald and Walter.
Really starting to like BB. Those chord changes are creepin' into my brain. I'm convinced that Becker and Fagen worked for the CIA back in the Eighties along side Skunk Baxter and the Remote Viewers who were looking for Russian subs. Anyone who can write seemingly simple pop songs that slowly creep into your head like some benevolent earwig must have been approached at some point by the government. After all, Elvis wanted to be a drug enforcement agent.
Blues Beach...
Great snare drum pop.
That chord sequence from 1:47 to 1:54 has Nightfly written all over it.
And the little descending four chord thing during the outro vamp is classic Steely Dan.
Someone over on the blue was complaining that some of the new stuff sounds like amalagamations of previous songs or sections of songs. I say who cares? It's the Steely Dan sound. I played TLM in the store for a friend recently. Before the first verse even came in he said, "Yep. That's Steely Dan"!
We had a great birthday party/jam session out at Bill Shelton's studio Saturday night. I wish all my friends from the 2000 Richmond Danfest could have been there. It was a blast. And we got a lot of it on tape.
Had a chance to try out my newest ax. It's an American Series Fender Telecaster with the vintage 2-color sunburst ash body and a maple fingerboard. It's a goody!
Hutch
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: DACW, yeah. Jazz FM has a cool mix. They feature all possible definitions of jazz in quirky combination. Lots of tasty soul and latin stuff. Classic jazz and stuff a bit further from the beaten path. I love hearing the London traffic reports. London is a great jazz town. And Jazz FM is by some measures the most listened-to internet radio station which is either saying something or not.
Anyway, have your tape machine or its digital equivalent rolling as you enjoy Jazz FM and, with a spot of luck, you'll get to hear "Godwhacker" with its saucy Becker accents.
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: N. Cognito: you aren't fooling anyone.
User: N. Cognito | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: angel, Walter said it.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Steven CT: Got it - some late 40s and early 50s classic stuff on now...
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: I have to give proper respect to St.Al. You are THE MAN!!!! Thanks so much for the email CARE Package. God bless you.
DACW, I am sorry that you missed what I heard "Godwhacker", but I am happy if I can be of any assistance to SD fans who are as eager as I am to hear the new stuff. Jazz FM can be accessed through windowsmedia's tuner under Jazz. It's a great station and apparently, the Brits have at least one additional (or alternate) title released for play.
Nothing would make me happy than if my SD friends can 'turn on' to this.
Again, many thanks to St.Al. I owe you, man.
User: addendum: | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: IGY, Nightfly
Tomorrows Girls, On the Dunes
Junkie Girl, Girlfriend, (though the latter is frequently replaced by Medical Science; honorable mention for Cringemaker...)
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Steven CT: F*** The downstairs office had Jazz London piped fropm the internet to the speackers after we blew up...errrr, I mean when the local Clear Channel station experienced technical difficulties...and I missed it! Friday, Flamenco sketches was on and a secretary was complaining about the music making her sleepy! Everyone must go...I'll tune in on my computernow - thanks for the heads-up mebbe on rotation? - your report sounds like just what the doctor ordered along with the EMG title track snippets from Confessions...
User: tones | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Happy (post) Mother's Day to all you steely moms!
G - I love that movie Naked Lunch. I've seen it quite a few times, hoping to somehow compensate for never being able to finish the book...
Anyone else completely blown away by the "EMG" snippet on the first Taxicab Confession? The sax phrase haunted me like an extreme deja vu experience; I honestly couldn't sleep for hours after hearing that. And that "Big Noise New York" reference made it even more striking; is it possible that the source of the big noise is the reason everything must go? Last one out of Manhattan turn out the "Bright Lights (in the) Big City"...
funky, sad, and soulful...
just amazing.
Think I'll wait until the album's out to view the rest of the TC's though to avoid any more sonic spoilers...
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Top 2 from each:
Fire in the Hole, Brooklyn (like a warm hug everytime I hear it, though it's sometimes replaced in the "top 2" by Turn That Heartbeat...)
Razor Boy, Your Gold Teeth, (though Pearl has made quite a sentimental leap in my heart...)
Any Major Dude, Monkey in Your Soul, (either occasionally replaced by Night x Night...)
Everyone's Gone to the Movies, Your Gold Teeth II (though every song on Katy has been a favorite at one time or another, these 2 rise majestically over them all...)
Haitian Divorce, Caves of Altimira, (though the title cut has become an amazing event for me after seeing them perform it live...)
Black Cow, Aja (honorable mention to Home at Last...)
Babylon Sisters, Time Out of Mind
Almost Gothic, Jack of Speed (honorable mention to the title cut...)
hmmmm... halfway through my mocha already...
t
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Bad Sneak - sent a mail to your work address May 8. Sent another one today, to your homeaddress.
Strange it is.
Let me know if you got it.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Howard, was this line from either Donald or Walter? I find it a most fascinating look into the minds of D & W and their relationship to their fans.
"We don't like to touch each other or other people too much"
User: bad sneakers | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Just heard the clip of "EMG" on the taxi cab video - Thats More like it !
Restored my faith in "EMG" after "Blues beach" and the (albeit much better) "Last Mall"
Can't wait for the rest now - by the way there is an interesting book for sale on Amazon called "The Complete Guide to the Music of Steely Dan (The Complete Guide to the Music Of...)" by Brian Sweet
Don't know what you lot think of Mr Sweet but the book is a decent companion to the CDs and is reasonably cheap too.
OK back to pre production for this summers extravaganza - will check in soon - Clas still no mail ??? confused.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Howard, you spoiler you.... ;-)
I was having trouble watching the Taxi Cab video clip yesterday. Does that thing get overloaded by requests from all of us? It would go to a point (point changed each time) and just stop. Sometimes it didn't load at all. The furthest I got was the Donald look when she asked about their plans for Friday Night. Too funny!
Good thing I saw it all on Saturday.
Gina: Next thing you know, Bluz will have you in heavy rotation on his station....
Saw X-Men 2 on Saturday. Steely (kind of) reference. They blow up some door or something and yell "Fire in the Hole". :-)
Good movie, by the way.
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: KMTT is running an advertisment annoucing the show at the Gorge. Playing a couple snipets from a few tracks off the new one. Blues Beach is in rotation...
Yes Molly -- please check in.
Glad my Dad doesn't live in Oklahoma City anymore. Sheesh...
StAl
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: I just heard 'Godwhacker' on Jazz FM from London on the internet!!!!! Awesome!!!! I keep my PC volume down low, but I heard the unmistakable style of Walter and turned it up! I am "so excited I can barely cope". That is the first I've heard from EMG. Tasty female background vocals, Donald sounds strong. Very jazzy, but still rocking hard within the groove. I am 18 again!!!!! Thank you, Donald and Walter, for all the great music and for coming back to us and continually raising the bar.
User: Drew | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Moll-get in touch babe.
User: Pastroek | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Steveie Dan, re: your Jay & The Americans question: they were on the "Sands of Time" album un-credited, and "Capture the Moment" album credited. If you can find the triple-CD "Masterworks", that has it all and moore...
User: Howard | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message:
Taxi cab confessions preview!
I was lucky enough to get a sneak preview of some of the upcoming "Taxi cab" promo clips. There are one or two outstanding music clips at the beginning of some of the video clips! Much of the music has a stripped down, solid bluesy feel. Some more funny stuff in the cab, as you'd expect.
I don't want to spoil the promo schedule, and I won't be revealing who/where I got the video clips from, but I do want to tempt you with a few highlights. In any case, the next Taxi cab update is available tomorrow, and the others follow on pretty soon afterwards...
*** Lizzie on Lyrics ***
Intro music: very tasty funky groove, rhodes, guitar. On first listening this sounds great! Much better than BB and even Last Mall.
"I had this boyfriend in college and he was the one who grooved me into you guys..."
"How did you guys come up with the name Steely Dan?"
"One chocolate banana shake!"
*** Steely Dan's Ideal Fan ***
"I distrust my peers, I really do"
"There's a lot of people that you influence on a daily basis that you don't even see"
"I'm thinking of Lizzie as an ideal prototype for our new fans..."
"original... pert... perceptive... blonde..."
*** A Reptile Gets In ***
Intro music: Walter sings the blues! Snakey Rhodes groove, nice sax accents.
"I pull a snake out of a guy's pants"
"I actually used one of your songs once in my show"
"I think he likes Donald to tell you the truth"
"He seems to be indifferent to the song - but it's a crisp indifference"
*** The Wig Woman Gets In ***
Donald sings: "I don't mind the quiet or the lonely nights..."
"This is everybody's year of letting go, that's why we're calling the album this."
"It has everything to do with shopping"
"When you go to a beach you think of tranquility but it also can take you to world of darkness"
"Down, down, down the dark ladder"
"We don't like to touch each other or other people too much"
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I was interested in the "down, down, down the dark ladder" quote from Walter. The specific repeat of "down" three times suggests he has Joni's song "Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire" in mind. They have hinted before that they like her music, but it's nice to hear references like this.
Howard
User: C @ W | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: Howard - he probably got it from Fox News.
User: Howard | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message:
Those Taxi cab confessions are great! Nicely done. New snippets of the tracks are intriguing too - EMG sounds good.
Cara mia - I've heard Joni's story about Neil writing Sugar Mountain so I'm with you on that. I think Joni used to tell the story quite often in her early touring days. Though I'd say that Neil's take on leaving childhood and getting older is more "down" than Joni's. In fact I think Joni said she wanted to write about it from a different point of view - accepting the changes and moving on, rather than lamenting the passing of those childhood years. They're both great songs though!
... reminds me of an intro Neil gave on a live performance (might be a live CSNY record - Four Way Street? can't remember...)
He introduces a song with:
"This is a song guaranteed to bring you right down"
(audience laughter)
"It's called: Don't Let It Bring You Down"
(more laughter)
"It starts of real slow and then kind of fizzles out all together..."
(more laughter)
On an entirely different subject:
"Terrorist attacks have dropped 60% since the response to 9/11...that speaks for itself..."
Where does that figure come from? I'd be interested to know the source. To me, it sounds rather dubious. Defining a "terrorist attack" is something that different folk will have differing opinions on. And was this stat a measure of the *number* of terrorist attacks, the number of people *killed* as a result of terrorist attacks or what? Would be interested in the details.
I also think we have had barely enough time to formulate a sensible, forward-looking response to 9/11. The impact of these responses will take much longer to show. My only hope is that the right responses are made, with genuinely beneficial effects in the long term. So far, I'm not convinced.
Howard
User: G. again | Month: 4 | Day: 12
Message: howdy Steviedan :-)
and there she was, miss Rita and company LOL
another snippet from EMG too ...
listened to Blues Beach btw and my take is this track will be superb when performed LIVE. towards the end a vivid picture dawns when the background vocals and such start to break the patterns of the song. imagine the voice of Michael McDonald in it, adding this subtile spice like he did in the past et voila ...
strange chordtwists at times however, defying the logic sense perhaps of those grooved to harmonic laws and musical degrees.
therefore it requires yet another listen, which in Steely Dan fan world is nothing new, since analyzing SD music&lyrics has been a vibrant fix for decades. Simply part of this territory!
G.
User: steviedan | Month: 4 | Day: 11
Message: got some deliberating to do on that. some thoughtful picks there, dacw. on nightfly, "goodbye look" would have to be there absolutely...
meanwhile...
a primordial query for the trust...
was just perusing the site of a favorite import and "import" dealer and noticed some relatively deep catalog for jay and the americans. right off, does anyone know what, if any records d&w did with jay ? i've got a "best of", but i'm relatively sure that stuff's too early. need to go downstairs to check that out again... i'm thinkin' later comeback attempts where you might have the boys held hostage in some cheezy band uniforms, sneering in the cover shot at the banality of it all...
i'd definitely pay to have that...
User: Gina | Month: 4 | Day: 11
Message: Darn, have to switch to mac i guess to be able to see Rita :-)
In the meantime i'll rave in here about kindred Dannish matters?
Howdy Cara Mia in Tennessee, happens so this past weekend when driving the car we were humming and singing these exact Circle Game lyrics you posted here over and over :-)
By chance i came across the "Naked Lunch" movie on dvd, a movie by David Cronenberg and based on that book by William S. Burroughs. Had to trade for some coins ofcourse but didn't have a chance to watch it yet. The day before yesterday we was zappin' the tv channels and oh so lucky, on a german channel, original english language so they didn't dub in german, this black&white movie starring Lilli Taylor and also Christopher Walken, ADDICTION by Abel Ferrara just started. Very very weird and absurd but nevertheless mucho worth losing sleep over. At some point there's this scene, Christopher and Lilli. He's like this vampire guru ... He then asks her if she read Naked Lunch and why she should etc.
Very very funny this serendipity-kinda waves, so ofcourse i had to see Naked Lunch after having seen Addiction. But not the same night, no-no!
So we watched it yesterday. Halfway through, sleep made me decide to watch the rest of the movie today. But so far, so ...........
Tanger, yellow powder, addiction, enchanting absurdities. And this laid-back easy way of showing the adapted story and characters. Plus the visual aspects of this particular film-making, lights, shades, tones, colors ... Hilarious are the large bug typewriters ...
Anyway. Won't think of Peter Weller as robocop no more :-)
A Banyan Tree Bow,
G.
User: C @ W | Month: 4 | Day: 11
Message: Mu - I'm so glad you're telling me this.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 11
Message: It's funny...our discussion of the TLM and Walter's guitar here and on the Blue have me listening to Pretzel Logic, especially the title track...even my wife agreed there's something seductive (in the musical sense) about the sound. It's *such* a complete track. Great horns, great guitar, dueling rhodes Donald and Omartian and I think Wilton Felder walking the bass...certainly a highlight of this album or any album...
leads back to an oldie but goodie question. Pick out your favorite 2 tracks from each Dan album. I'll start
CBAT: My choices are unusual I guess. Fire in the Hole and Turn That Heartbeat Over Again. Midnite Cruiser's not far behind
CTE: Razor Boy, King of the World
PL: Pretzel Logic, Rikki Don't Lose that Number...the obvious ones here I guess...Monkey in Your Soul, Any Major Dude for the guitar work alone, Night By Night, and Parker's Band not far behind...
Katy Lied: Dr. Wu, Your Gold Teeth II...Any World (for its emotional depth) and Bad Sneakers are real favorites as well
Royal Scam: Man this is hard...just love Carlton's licks on Kid C and DTMA, but Griffin and Carton are hypnotizing on The Fez, and Caves of Altamira is so smooth - Klemmer really shines
Aja: Black Cow, Home At Last
Gaucho: Gaucho, Third World Man
The Nightfly: Green Flower Street, The Nightfly (every song is a classic though)
Kamakiriad: On the Dunes, Teahouse on the Tracks (Try playing the album in reverse order...it's cool)
11TOW: Book of Liars, Girlfriend
TvN: Negative Girl, West of Hollywood
EMG: ? have a feeling that title track's gonna be one of them...
User: sources say... | Month: 4 | Day: 11
Message: ...there's no truth to the rumour that Rita is the latest addition to the bare-midrift babechoir...
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 11
Message: Hahahahahaha!
Taxicab Confessions...
That is just too funny!
LMAO!
User: Slang This! | Month: 4 | Day: 11
Message: Yeah Clas..And you've always been able to keep your big foot in your big mouth. That's always been YOUR story.
User: C @ W | Month: 4 | Day: 11
Message: StAl - Donny has always climbed over Walter. That's the story of their career.
User: Aussie | Month: 4 | Day: 11
Message: WebDrone: Thanks! Phantastic duo look great...
Aus
User: Asst. Continuity Director | Month: 4 | Day: 11
Message: Did anyone else notice the little flub in the video? In the cab Donald is sitting on the drivers side and Walter is sitting on the passenger side. When they get out of the cab to go into Sal's, Donald exits out the passenger side first followed by Walter.
Now unless Donald climbed over Walter to exit first, I'm thinking the continuity director should be fired.
StAl
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 11
Message: Play this while listening to "Blues Beach" and see if you can keep from
laughing your ass off.
www.toons.artie.com/toons/fat_dance/fatdance.html
User: Lovely Rita! | Month: 4 | Day: 11
Message: Wow! That was fun. The Two in a Vegas cab. Looked authentic too.
/C
User: steviedan | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: "festival dreaming: if artists programmed jazz festivals"
downbeat magazine 5/03
marian mcpartland:
"... i'd experiment with innovative concepts. for example i'd have a show with steely dan and ask them to play some ellington and armstrong tunes in addition to their own material... "
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: angel: Back at the office, actually preparing a report the refinancing appraisal "genius" should have prepared...I've got regression equations and arcane calculations out the wazoo + digital pics of we and comparables...working on a grant or I should be...that 8 min commute is a Bitch!! OK, I'm back again for the Big Honker Quicktime Confession...Steely Dan "at a loss" for what to do in Vegas on Friday night...too f**ing funny!!!...nice look by Fagen after asked what they like to do for fun...
Hey, ya know I think the funk groove has a major "hip hop" beat element...and there's no "FEATURING P.O.D" or "as told to P Diddy"!!!! ...if only Santana's "Charmin" had taken this "novel" approach...UPTOWN BABY!!
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: MU: The family let me watch it again with audio on a semi-decent level. Yes, definitely very jazzy. Not what was running through my head after reading the lyrics, but that's ok. Since when do I know how to write a song. :-)
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: angel: It kicks major butt...need to go back to the office later anyway...awesome sound on the T3 and Harmon Kardon speakers...very jazz...slow, badass funk...it hits the spot
User: pixeleen | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: anyone seen the taxicab confession yet it is a crack. And there is more to come.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: Thanks Webdrone. :-)
Just a quick snipet of EMG, but cool. I feel like when I just heard the last verse of The Last Mall. Not enough to get a good feel. Ugh!
User: Noone'severgonnaknow | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: that it's Big Noise New York...great music for brooding and facism...
find a handle guys!
great sound!! tune , groove and LOL!!! ...rita watch yer metah!!!
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: So Eminem won't let Weird Al do a video of his Oscar? winning tune? And this is all that has to do with image? May Jay Z. kick his ass. Considering that today's rappers don't have a sense of humor and think their bigger than us, I ain't surprised.
User: SDWeb | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: Hi all -
Will be updating the site with links to this later tonight, but thought we'd let the hardcore start enjoying this right away: a cute player that the sharp New Media people at Reprise put together for some SD audio and video:
http://www.repriserecords.com/steelydan/player/
It's a viral player -- you'll see once there you can mail the link around -- so pass it on if you think it's worthwhile
We understand this player will be updated over time, not only with new video clips but with song streams as well. Scheduled video updates are already listed on the player. Don't have the confirmed audio schedule now but will pass it on when we hear.
Enjoy,
SDWeb
User: Okay... | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: ...I'll tell it tomorrow then.
/C
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: Did anyone hear that funny story about the salesman and the blonde, they were checking in at a pay-per-hour motel somewhere in Wisconsin, the walls were extremely thin, plywood kind of... ?
User: Keyshawn | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: Bill- Awesome post! You actually sound like a normal human being. Keep posting like that and The Blue Book may even have you back.
Bravo Bill!
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: W1P? - yeah, isn't it cozy?
More facts; Monica Dominque's brother is Palle Danielsson, the double* bass player, played/playing a lot with Keith Jarrett (I think he's playing on that original Gaucho recording; As Long As You're Living Yours).
And Keith Jarrett won this years Polar Music Prize, and if I aint wrong, he's playing here in Stockholm tonight.
* do you really say that? "DOUBLE bass player"? 12 strings??
User: OMG! Boil some water! Hoard canned food and toilet paper!! | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: "The Bryan Adams Experience"?
Forget the rations, just give me a lethal dose...
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: LP: Hubby says go for the martini. I am sure the sun is over the yardarm some where....
Bluz: You played Gina again!!!!!!! Damn, give a girl a break here, tell me when your show is on, maybe I can stream it here at home.
(A hint that the G girl will be spinning, would be nice, too, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more....) ;-)
steviedan: Bring up Rock Concert, why don't you.:-)
I thought of Midnight Special too, when I heard about the return of Soundstage. Those were musically interesting times. MTV and all that, really took a hit at mainstream music shows.
Bill: I am speechless. What a turn around. You change your meds? LOL
Actually, as I have said before, I agree 100% with you.
User: more bloody links... | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: not steely dan, BUT only 3 miles from our house.
W1P...check it out should i take Danny ?
http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/cgi/asp_events/event_info.asp?event_id=18003678C03E79AF&category=Music
db
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message:
Who does he think he is? Coolio?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38445-2003May10.html
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: If Keneally's in it, it's exciting ;-)
Great photo -- I love the outfit being worn by Monica Dominique
User: Luckless Pedestrian, shakin | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: OMG - now that was stressful - ticketmaster has this wall you have to cross by typing in a word on the screen, the cyber effect of putting people on hold - it rejected it countless times, then i finally got through, only to be pushed out in mid-order for section 7, then more countless walls to cross and i ended up in a better section, section 6
my husband is on the pier where there's a good signal with a friend's credit card to see what he gets
now that's true love isn't it?
lol - hey mark, stay in on the danfest registration stuff, okay? you too |||||!!!!!
is it too early for a martini - my nerves are shot!
section 6 appears to be better than 7, but 7 is donald's favorite number - ah well...
User: C & Western | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: W1P? - I have an old pic where you can see the band:
http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/solarplexus
Or click above.
User: C @ W | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: W1P? - nSh, that's far up north, Umes. If I can avoid it, I never go there. And the line up you posted isn't very exciting, not for me. I'm looking forward for the Stockholm Jazz Festival.
But thanx anyway.
And that Carl Axel Dominique, he and his wife had a band back in the 70's - Solareplexus, Georg Wadenius played the bass.
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dr Mu - yes, whatever you say, yawn, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
User: How About You | Month: 4 | Day: 10
Message: 3/21/61
I like New york In June.how about you...
I like gershwin tune how about you
I love a fireside when a storm is do
I like potatoe chips..and moonlight and motor trips
\how about you!
I'm mad about good books ..can't get my fill
I like New Jersey in June...how about you
I love me a bernstien tune
how about you...
Ilove me a TV set when a storm is do...
you know I like my fish n chips..rock n' roll ...how about you...
I'm mad about great cooks...how about you..can never get my fill
and mrs. darin's looks kinda give me a thrill
holdin hands in a movie show all the way in the last row
when all the lights are low.
B.Darin
played today
Eddie Henderson
So What
Prince Of Darkness..(new)
James Moody..The Blues And Other Colors
Zan Gardner..Heres my Heart.."you don't know what love is"
Joe Turner.."morning glory"
B.B King.."I like to live love"
Jimmy Witherspoon.."you got a hold of my heart"
Randy Brecker..34 n lex..streeeange!!!
Kenny Garett..happy people
The Drummonds..Pas de Trois.."golden earrings"..(new)
Frank.."all or nothing at all"..may 1966/w.nelson riddle
Count Basie..Kansas city 7.."count me in"
Carl Evans Jr..My Romance.."youve got a friend"..(new)
Michel Petrucciani..Solo Live..'lookin up & beasme mucho..for jonasz
Lamont Johnson..'burned by the passion"
Teddy Edwards..Smooth sailing.."hanks tune"..(new)
Wayne Shorter..ju ju
Maria Muldaur..A Woman Alone With The Blues../remembering peggy lee
"black coffee"..outstanding new one"
Sinatra..The Main Event,,"Live From Madison Square Garden..October 13. 1974
Carter.Coleman,Chaix.."The Three C's.."swingin in November'(new)
Stanley Turrentine..lp..look at out"
Eddie Harris..lp..Plug Me In.."live right now"
Steely Knives..Symphony Blues..gina vodegel
Andrew Hill..Point Of Departure.."refuge"
6th street woman
you're like an angel in the night.
You give life to the dead,
give a blind man his sight.
With your long shapely legs
and those drop-dead eyes,
a man walking behind you
get some cardiovascular exercise.
Brian Robertson
'6th street Woman"
bluz
User: onthedreadedsmoothjazzformat | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Smooth Jazz Most Added¬
Artist áTitle (Label)
Adds
David Sanborn á Comin' Home Baby (Verve/GRP)
21
Steely Dan á The Last Mall (Reprise)
10
Urban Knights á Got To Give It Up (Narada)
8
Brian McKnight á Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda (Motown/Universal)
5
Daryl Hall á Cab Driver (Rhythm & Groove/Liquid 8)
5
User: ThisJustIn | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: The new AAA charts are in for 5/10 (just one more month!!!!):
Triple A Most Added
Artist áTitle (Label)
Adds
Steely Dan á Blues Beach (Reprise)
7
Jackson Browne á About My Imagination (Elektra/EEG)
5
O.A.R. á Hey Girl (Lava)
4
Pete Yorn á Come Back Home (Columbia)
3
Liz Phair á Why Can't I? (Capitol)
3
Triple A Most Increased Plays
Artist áTitle (Label)
Plays
Steely Dan á Blues Beach (Reprise)
+75
Jackson Browne á About My Imagination (Elektra/EEG)
+70
Nickel Creek á Smoothie Song (Sugar Hill)
+56
Train á Calling All Angels (Columbia)
+53
Coldplay á The Scientist (Capitol)
+32
Triple A Going For Adds
Artist áTitle (Label)
George Harrison á Any Road (Capitol)
User: Penny Youngham | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Man, that SARS is so scary...today France surrendered to China!
Badda bing badda boom...enjoy the lochs, I'll be here 'til Thursday!
User: Pope a Dope | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34096-2003May9.html
way to go Cue Ball...and Madonna is now our Dominatrix...errrr Minister of Culture...LOL
User: mysterymeat | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Stevie: If McDonald's makes 550 new kinds of hamburgers, they all still suck...what is this, the Stepford Broadcasters??
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: EMG is #7 in presales at Amazon.co in England (way to go Brits!)...but sauntering at #72 here...I can't find EMG under amazon.com's DVD-A selection yet...still waiting for word from BuyDVD.com...what's overnight shipping from England?
Bill: a first? I agree with every single word re: TLM and BB...it's the spirit
User: steviedan's midnight special | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: shines it's everluvin' light on YOU !
what soundstage ? bring back frickin' dahn koishna's rach cahnsut. hey dahn, say hi to cara mia from tennessia !!!
those in the radio discussion will find this letter to rolling stone editors rich:
"radio responds"
"sorry to see rolling stone buy into the myths about radio ["why radio sucks", r.s. 919]. last year, nearly 3000 new songs and 550 new artists debuted on the radio. today, there are more stations and more formats than ever before, bringing diverse and new programming to large and small markets alike. that's what radio has always done."
kathy ramsey
national association of broadcasters
washington, dc
dahn ? wolfman ?..............
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Pat,
I have to admit, I was looking forward to EMG with a certain amount of
dread but after listening to "The Last Mall" and "Blues Beach" I feel
a whole lot better. I really like both of these songs and I liked them
from the first time I heard them.
Donald voice sounds really great on "Last Mall" especially when he hits
that second "roll your cart back up the aisle", I mean he really nails it.
Blues Beach reminds me of all of those happy-go-lucky pop songs of the
1960's. These two guys know thier history. I really like this song for
it's catchy bassline and for the memories it brings back.
Nice job D&W.
User: Boston Rag | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Hi LP - Your best bet would probably be going on-line (no busy signals.) You don't have to take the first tix that are offered. You can back out and try again to see if you get better seats (happens rarely). Sometimes you jump from section 1 to section 2 (center).
Hope to see you at the Mansfield show or the Boston Danfest! (still in the planning stages, details soon)
Mark in Boston
User: Luckless Pedestrian | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: thanks for the info cara mia -
but i do know the version of sugar mountain as live is the only time he did it live
tickets go on sale in less than 12 hours, vroom vroom
on the last mall, there's a little guitar work after he talks about carts (second time, sorry, don't have the min/sec) that i believe mimics a twisted wheel of a shopping cart
ala the horn beep on janie runaway - who makes the traffic interesting, beep, beep
the tough thing about the ticket purchase for me, is, for the last tour i was online, on the phone and my husband was in line at tower records - we got a mess of tickets to see who would get the best seats - now here, i'm nowhere near a ticket booth, and i'm on dial up, and my cell doesn't come in on this side of the island - so the choice is phone or online
any thoughts?
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Hey Clas, don't know where you are geographically but here's a couple of shows that should should attend'
SWEDEN:
Friday, June 13
Umes International Chamber Festival
Zappa's Corner
Mike Keneally with host Denny Walley, the Ed Palermo Big Band, Napoleon Murphy Brock, Mats +berg, Morgan +gren, Kristjan JSrvi & the Black Box Band, Carl-Axel Dominique and others
Black Box NorrlandsOperan
Operaplan 9, Umes, Sweden
10:00 p.m.
Info: +46 (0) 90-13 31 80
Tickets: 120 kr
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Saturday, June 14
Umes International Chamber Festival
Big Band Zappa
Mike Keneally with the Ed Palermo Big Band featuring Napoleon Murphy Brock, Mats +berg, Morgan +gren, and others
Black Box NorrlandsOperan
Operaplan 9, Umes, Sweden
6:00 p.m.
Info: +46 (0) 90-13 31 80
Tickets: 120 kr
Umes International Chamber Festival
Zappa's Corner
Mike Keneally with host Denny Walley, the Ed Palermo Big Band, Napoleon Murphy Brock, Mats +berg, Morgan +gren, Jonas Knutsson and others
Black Box NorrlandsOperan
Operaplan 9, Umes, Sweden
11:00 p.m.
Info: +46 (0) 90-13 31 80
Tickets: 120 kr
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: c: more like the liberal former mayor of New York, Ed Koch:
"The Honorable Kofi Annan
Secretary General
United Nations
New York, New York 10017
Dear Mr. Secretary General:
I read with regret the May 1st statement issued on your behalf: ôThe Secretary-General is deeply disturbed by Israeli military incursions today in Gaza City and the Rafah refugee camp, in which at least eight Palestinians were killed and many others injured. He stresses that such actions, including the reported house demolitions, are contrary to international humanitarian law.ö
The day before, you issued a statement condemning ôin the strongest possible terms tonightÆs terrorist attack in Tel Aviv.ö You reiterated your appeal ôto the Palestinians to pursue non-violent policies and urge[d] the Palestinian Authority to make every effort to stop these terrorist acts against Israelis.ö
As you know, the terrorist attack on April 29 in Tel Aviv resulted in three deaths and dozens of casualties, including the loss of limbs.
The Israeli military forces are responding to terrorist groups that have announced repeatedly that they will not abide by any ceasefire. The terroristsÆ refrain is that they want all of the land ôfrom the River to the Sea,ö clearly a reference to their strategic goal of ending the existence of the Jewish state. The greatest obligation of government is to provide security for its citizens. If the Palestinian Authority cannot or will not safeguard Israelis from terrorist attacks, do you still believe that IsraelÆs responding as it did in Gaza by eliminating major Hamas leaders responsible for planning terrorist attacks are actions contrary to international law? If so, how do you define self-defense? As a result of Israeli military responses, terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians have decreased markedly. Should Israel forego those reductions in the spirit of cooperation? IsnÆt it reasonable to require the Palestinian Authority to take effective action before Israel is asked to refrain from acts of self-defense?
I believe there should be an agreed-upon period following an attack -- perhaps 72 hours -- within which the Palestinian Authority is given the opportunity to demonstrate its bona fides and effectiveness before Israel takes decisive action. The Israelis undoubtedly remember two attacks that occurred in a very brief period, one in Tel Aviv and the other in Jerusalem. They did not respond to the first, hoping the Palestinian Authority would. It didnÆt, and the second followed shortly.
I am truly interested in your comments on these issues.
All the best.
Sincerely,
Edward I. Koch "
User: Paige | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Sugar Mountain has always been a personal favorite of mine. The lyrics are haunting and I think it is one of the most introspective songs written by Neil.
No, I didn't realize that he wrote it at 17. Interesting.
LP - The version that they play on the radio here in SB is "live." In fact, it's the only version that they have ever played locally. You can't really tell that it's live until the end when someone coughs at the last strum of the guitar, just before the polite applause.
There is a bittersweet quality to this song that causes me to reflect on my life and the passages that we all go through. When it came on today, I had just pulled into my apartment complex. I couldn't get out of my car until it was over.
-Paige
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: What's a Sugar Mountain? Same as a Powdered Bread?
User: cara mia | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: or maybe the age of kid club cut-off in Canada was 20, which would make more sense for Sugar Mountain lyrics...
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Dr Mu - oh well, thank God, that was just a Norwegian-right-wing "taking a chance".
No worries, it became a laugh Friday at 14.00. Our time.
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Ange - Love & Stuff ;-)
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Blues Beach - well, I wonder, now more then ever, these guys are over 50, and they haven't any serious stuff to write about?
That's probably Fagen holding back. Becker's 11 Tracks had some depth in the lyrics.
User: cara mia | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Actually, lp, I have heard another version (Joni Mitchell's) about Neil Young's Sugar Mountain and why he wrote it. She said it was Neil's poignant lament about how he became too old to play in the popular teen clubs in Canada. Evidently they were the big thing for underage teenagers in those days. To make up for the lack of alcohol sales to minors and yet provide safe and fun places to gather, these clubs were given their own cache in that any kid over 18 was not allowed entrance. They had really good live bands, and Neil was king of them until he got too old, because even the bands had to be underage too. Joni wrote The Circle Game, her song with a similar complaint about aging, in answer to Neil's Sugar Mountain:
"And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look behind
From where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game"
Isn't that the great thing about well-written tunes and lyrics? They transcend time and can be assigned so many nice projected meanings for a listener.
Hello to all my Steely Dan friends. Good to see familiar names and pennings. I will be out for some of the shows but have not decided which ones and may gamble and wait for the second leg concerts with hopes that WB and DF and band will tour the Southland and sound just like a record on the phonograph...
hope to do similar meet and greets with you like in 2000.
L-U-V,
Cara Mia in Tennessee
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: LP: The Long and Winding Road was our years Senior Prom.... :-)
Nights in White Satin, the year before. (as a Moody Fan, I liked that name better.)
Mu: Thanks for the nod on EYD. I kind of look at them both the same way, Really dark subject matter, not to be confused with dark subject matter. I put "Take It Out On Me" in that same group.
User: lp | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: neil young add-in comment: he wrote that song about a relationship that ultimately went sour - he never quite recovered so much that he has never played sugar mountain live
twas shame, because it is a personal favorite - anyone else dub their high school party spot as "sugar mountain" - yes, growing up in the 70's...lol/smirk
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Paige: Did you know Neil Young wrote that when he was 17?
Based on the lyrics, could have been something subliminanabable from 17 months...
User: DACW - last to know | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: StAl: I tried to tune in to Banyan Radio and I'm getting a Live 365 error message. Is this Clear Channel sabotage? Our troops are in position and ready to use tactical nukes on Clear Channel headquarters in San Antonio upon my order...
User: Paige | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Oh to live on Sugar Mountain
With the barkers and the yellow balloons
You can be twenty on Sugar Mountain
Though you think you're leaving there too soon
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Angel: My only beef, and I expect it to be satisfied is MORE JAZZ!!!
Jimbo: Fagen looks like a street-tough Dracula! Is it possible that Walter gets younger looking every year? Is it just me?
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Hutch- Thanks for the link and new pics of the boys. Donald looks almost like an angry version of Dave Brubeck. But then, that's just my observation.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: angel: great analogy re: Royal Scam order...
ohhh the beginning of Plush is by far the best part, especially in regards to melding audio and video...frankly the rest of the video part is embarrasing (from a fzux artistic standpoint), but the SOUND is great!
The new stuff sounds like CBAT, CTE, Pretzel Logic structure with Nightfly dressings...more blue/jazz/rock rather than the funk/cool jazz of TvN...my GUESS is that the song styles on EMG will be quite varied, much like PL...I think of this one as maybe a more sophisticated version of PL or the pop songs of CTE - I mean the have a lot in common with Monkey in Your Soul and My Old School in a way...
StAl: It may be more of the end of the beginning than the beginning of the end...but that deck of cards is hard to shuffle with much of them missing and it's real hard to put a royal flush together now...diligence, persistence, and dedicatioin are required to reverse 30 years of enabling by the West regarding terrorism...there's no guarantee that there will not be dramatic attacks against the US
The recent progress regarding Israel and a Arafat-lite Palestinian state is encouranging, but these things can collapse in a moment...the timetable is realistic for an independent Palestinian state by 2005...
One of the keys regarding the fall of Iraq was the enormous amount of resources the State supplied to terrorism including Al Qaeda: MONEY, weapons, Training (including Boeing 747/737 training)...yeah stuff has been dispersed...but...
Libya is a classic example - Khadaffi's links and contribution to terroris have Decreased, not increased since 1985 when we blasted his palace...
...these people are cowards and bullies holding their people hostage through force, fear, and twisted manipulation of religious fervor, etc.
If one cleans the clock of the neighborhood bully, my personal experience is that the harassment decreases, not increases...
I see from your lack of response that you recognize deep in your heart that Jobs continues to out innovate, even if he doesn't outsell Gates (your such a corporate capitalist! ;-) )...but then Apple sold 1,000,000 song downloads the first week...sure beats Clear Channel...make up your own radio station!! Speaking of which Support Live 365 in any way possible!
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Tones: Soundstage. Yeah, I am praying one of the final 3 TBA's turn out to be Steely Dan, but I have nothing to do with anything, I just am the humble reporter. :-)
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Forwhatitsworth: I totally agree with you and I think the producer/director of the Plush did too. One of the best things about that show was the open with 2VN playing over the close ups of NYC buildings. 2 Against Nature, indeed. Gaslighting Abbie never did it for me as the opener. It would be like opening Royal Scam with "Everything You Did", but what do I know. I love the album anyway, some cuts more then others.
Mu: I love the version of Jack of Speed on the Album best. I guess since I had never heard it before, that is the definitive version in my mind. But I definitely go with you on Negative Girl.
Howard: Yeah, not the best ever, but I like them....If these are the worst on the album, bring on the rest.
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: >Terrorist attacks have dropped 60% since the response to 9/11...that speaks for itself...
The long term implications of "our response" to 9/11 will only be felt years from now. Not months. If you think for a moment that we're actually stopping terrorism, you're fooling yourself. This reduction is only temporary.
Howard: I'm with you on your assessment of Blues Beach. After dozens and dozens of listenings I'm only now starting to catch the groove. Last Mall hit me almost right away.
StAl
User: forwhatitsworth | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Fagen played piano on What a Shame About Me and On the Dunes (as well as the rest of Kama) and TvN (title track)...yeah, there's some schnekasublinimilability or whatever...but pretty damn good...the Rhodes on WASAM is perfection too...the intro to Two Against Nature - now THAT's classic - never figured out why that wasn't the lead-in song...I play it that way sometimes...
User: SpellCzech | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: wait
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Why not? Arafat won one, and he's worth $2 Billion on the blood of women and children, refusing the Camp David Peace accord giving the 2nd Arab Palestinian state back to them (stolen by Jordan, ex-TransJordan, ex part of Palestine)...he can't even read a roadmap...and Jimmy Carter has one and he agreed to give Nuke tech. to Some Ill Kim and his Dad...nice going...
Terrorist attacks have dropped 60% since the response to 9/11...that speaks for itself...
I was never that impressed with Jack of Speed, despite the nice bridge Donald tacked on. It and Cousin Dupree are the least exciting songs on TvN. The horns make it sound like "classic" Steely Dan, whatever that is, but it's not. On the other hand, Negative Girl ranks up there with my favorite Steely Dan recordings...
I give both BB and TLM 8.5 - 9/10....nicely recorded, good balance, open soundscape that we haven't heard in the studio since the Nightfly - one a 60s pop strategy, one an altered blues. They feel like a merge of Pretzel Logic (short pop pieces), the Nightfly (bouncy elegance), Confide in Me, NYR&SR, and a touch of TvN...I don't hear really any of the Miles Davis Cool jazz element yet that permeated TvN though...to me, they're both great pop, but then *I* prefer 60s pop and early 70s soul to the white art rock (ELP, Floyd, Yes, etc.) anyway...occasionally, I want to hear Still She Turns Me On or Long Distance Runaround or watch the Wizard of Oz over Dark Side of the Moon or the title track from Wish You Were Here...but I can't sit through whole albums of that stuff anymore...
...to some, they may sound light weight, but both tunes are pretty strong, and I hear them taking more chances even within their limited pop envelope. Both distinctive...I can't weight to hear the rest of the songs and play the album as a whole to hear how TLM and BB fit in...love the live sound....
The ordinate crack was great...
User: Howard | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message:
Hutch - thanks for the link, nice interview.
I like this quote from Becker: after Donald says "Everything Must Go was an attempt to pick up where we left off without taking an inordinate amount of time.", Becker adds "Even so, we still managed to reach the outer limits of the ordinate".
What is it with Ronald MacDumsFeld? Just learned that in 2000 he was a director of a company which won a $200m contract to sell nuclear reactors to North Korea. Then, in 2002 he declares North Korea a terrorist state, part of the axis of evil and a target for regime change. This guy's got balls!
But, W has gone up in my estimation (only a little bit, but hey...). Apparently he voted against changing a law that would allow private citizens to own and use semi-automatic weapons (after all what the USA needs more than anything is more citizens walking around with powerful guns...). Now you could say that W's move was just a ploy to win some votes for the upcoming elections, but that would be cynical...
OK, time to come out of the closet. I have to admit that on first listening, and after many repeat listens, I thought Blues Beach was a pretty average song - weak even. Last Mall didn't blow me away on the first listen, but pretty soon it grew on me. After about 5 or 6 listens it was a definite winner.
But with BB I've been playing it and playing it, and it seemed like it would never hit the spot. Agreed, the folks who choose the tunes to be previewed are going to pick the ones that are most easily digested by folks who are rapidly losing the ability to listen. So, we can expect the preview tunes to be more easy-going than the rest of the material... but even so...?
But, after more listens BB has finally started to hit home. I still think Last Mall is a much, much better song - at least a 7.5/10. BB is currently at about 6/10, but it may still creep up a fraction.
When the new album arrives, I can't wait to find which tunes are destined to be the 9s and 10s - the "Jack Of Speed"s and the "Negative Girl"s if you like. Can't wait.
Howard
User: lp at home | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: i'm so excited i can barely cope: tickets for the Massachusetts show go on sale tomorrow!!!!!!!
who's going - |||||???
aus?
mark?
nmn?
User: Or Republican time? | Month: 4 | Day: 9
Message: Is it really true that Bush & Blair are nominated for Nobel's Peace Prize?
Fucked up world.
/C
User: Its Steely Dan time! | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: Saw this link over on the blue. This is a great interview...
http://www.noblepr.co.uk/Press_Releases/warner_music/steely_dan_long.htm
Hutch
User: t | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: RudeWaitress - does this mean we can finally get some decent fish and chips here, instead of the tuna-in-a-can and cold (as in still frozen)french fries? YES!!
Bon voyage, and I promise to tip... I mean tip *better* next time...
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: It just makes me want to slap the Boston Globe around...
http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/127/nation/Democrats_set_up_shadow_groups_to_raise_soft_money+.shtml
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: Behind the Music, the CD from the Swedish band The Soundtrack of Our Lives rocks
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: Let's see if we have this straight. Jobs was a visionary free radical from Berkeley, and Gates was a button-down microsoft dork from some Baahhhhston school that gave away an MBA to W...
User: t | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: I forgot to mention something... remember that "anti-drug at music venues" bill you brought up St. Al? It was passed. It was piggy-backed onto the Amber Alert Bill that Bush signed last week.
The skeevy fucking bastards...
User: radio free tones | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: angel - that's great news. I loved Soundstage... and it would be great if the Dan did another PBS broadcast like that. I think the way they did their promotion for 2vsN was outstanding, becuase I'm not sure they got all that much airplay on radio, even though Dupree was played for about a week. So the Plush broadcast really told people there was something going on; even more so than the Storytellers episode because the Plush was broadcast every pledge drive for about a year.
Where do those old Storytellers episodes go to die anyway?
St Al. - That's the real problem with Clear Channel. On the surface everything looks fine. It's great they have a nice selection of tunes on XL, but nobody else is being given a chance to provide content to the airwaves. Hypothetically I could spin you a deep cut radio show if I had access to the airwaves via the net (and an unformatted station, which is where this whole mess started), but I won't be given the chance because of the stranglehold Clear Channel has on the industry. And if XM/Clear Channel decides to modify their selection you'll be back to what amounts to crappy FM programming at a premium price (remember when VH-1 seemed like an "alternative" to Mtv?). The *real* pisser is that if there was more diversity on broadcast radio you wouldn't have to pay a subcription fee for it. It's a crime to have to pay to hear deep cuts by Gabriel, Genesis, Zappa and Phish on the radio. And don't think the homogenization of the airwaves were an accident.
Yes, it's hard to boycott a company that has a virtual monopoly. It's almost impossible to avoid these bastards without making temporary sacrifices in quality, which is the way they've set up the game. It sucks. The very week the retroactive royalties for internet broadcasters went into effect XM went online nationally. To take your GM example, I was doing just fine avoiding GM products (overt ones anyway; I don't know how many of their subsidiary products I have), until I was given a free phone. Damn thing is a GE. Yes I use it, but I didn't buy it, and as soon as it craps out (which won't be too long) I'll buy another one from a slighty less offensive multi-national corporation.
I don't know that the Dan are consciously avoiding Clear Channel sheds, but I think it was Hutch who pointed out that they are playing one in his area. So I don't think it's possible for even the Dan to avoid the bastards completely, but you do what you can and try to stay aware of what's going on and who's being crushed under the foot of the behemoth and help out when you can, ya know? Like I don't recommend that you toss your XM receiver into Puget Sound or anything yet, but give it a thought next time you're driving over a bridge... heh heh...
User: fezo | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: Soundstage actually went back a little farther, into the mid and maybe even early '70's; was my first introduction to both the Doobies (still rememember their rendition of "Blackwater" on the show) and Dylan. He went on to plug "Desire" and had pretty much the same band as the Rolling Thunder Revue crew, maybe a little pared down. He did "Hurricaine" and "Oh Sister" in what I saw. I was so impressed I went out and bought my first Dylan album at age 14. "Desire" to this day remains one of my favorite discs of all time.
In my next post, I'll recollect on walking 30 miles in three foot snowdrifts, dodging Yeti on the way, to get to junior high
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: Anyone remember an old show called "Soundstage"? It came from WTTW Chicago in the late '70s, early '80s? Well, I guess they are bringing it back in the new century. Guests for the first year include:
"Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers", "The Last DJ", "Alison Krauss + Union Station featuring Jerry Douglas", "Michael McDonald, Ashford and Simpson, featuring Doobie Brothers, Tom Johnston and Patrick Simmons", "John Mellencamp", "Lyle Lovett and Friends", "Dennis DeYoung", "Chris Isaak", "Tori Amos", "Wilco and Sonic Youth", The last 3 shows are TBA.
I wonder if there is any chance of Steely Dan giving it another go?
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: Tonez: It's already here: http://www.xmradio.com/xmpcr/. Plus, you can listen to samples of the stations here: http://www.xmradio.com/programming/full_channel_listing.jsp
I've been using XM since Christmas and I've got to say I'm a big fan. I'm not much of a channel changer so XM really works well. Because they offer 100 + stations they're able to specialize on musical niches. The two stations I find myself listening to most often are "Deep Tracks" and "XM Music Lab." On these stations I routinely hear songs I haven't heard in 20 years. And I hear artists you NEVER hear on the radio such as Peter Gabriel-Genesis, Zappa, Phish. The Deep Tracks station is fun because they really do go deep. For instance, this morning I heard "At The Station" off Joe Walsh's "But Seriously Folks." I literally hadn't heard that song since I last listened to that album (as in vinyl) maybe 15 years ago.
The clear channel connection is worrisome. The worst part about this is the larger they get the harder it is to boycott their services. Remember the big "Boycott G.E." a few years ago? I mean, HOW in the world do you boycott a company like General Electric?
It's getting ugly folks. Write your congressperson today and tell them Michael Powell needs to be stopped. Even Barry Diller thinks it's bad for the industry.
StAl
User: tones over e-z | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: Hey remember those posts about how small internet broadcasters were intentionally priced out of the market? Well I saw an annoucement yesterday that XM, one of the two satellite radio corporations (and the more robust of the two), intends to bring it's signal to home PC's.
Guess what else: Clear Channel Inc. is a major investor in XM.
Freedom of choice and information is evaporating faster than you can breathe.
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: The Pink Book -- has a nice ring to it
To those of you who live in LA or who plan to travel to LA in or around July 19 -- we have a very special treat for you. Sheer Heart Attack -- the Queen tribute that plays only once every 18 or so months because their singer lives in Germany -- will be sharing a bill with Which One's Pink? at Platinum Live in Studio City (a club that purports to have the world's only 5.1 Surround Sound club system in the world). If you have ANY fondness for Queen, then you should not miss this show -- Enrique is wonderful and given the passing of Freddie, the closest thing you'll ever see to Queen. Also, SHA plays the "rock" Queen tunes and generally shies away from the "foo foo" Queen stuff.
Also, San Diego folk, on June 14 Which One's Pink? will be making its long awited San Diego debut at Canes along with Led Zepagain featuring Swan. I know there's a ton of Sandy Eggoites here so come out for an fun night of bitter vitriol!
User: StAL | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: Steve Jobs = Bill Gates wannabe
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: Frick: Actually I think $95 is perfectly reasonable for tickets within the "golden circle" assuming that's what you're getting. I paid $100 for Peter Gabriel and it was the best money I ever spent.
$350 a ticket, and I don't give a shit if it IS Paul McCartney, is borderline extortion. Eagles were charging $100 for lawn seats at the Gorge a year or so ago. As long as someone will pay, capitalism rules I guess.
The only benefit of these outrageous ticket prices is it has reduced the profiteering of ticket scalpers. Steely Dan's ticket prices at the Gorge this year are very reasonable. I think the most expensive ticket is $80. Lawn are about $45.
You know what, I'll bet that Walter and/or Donald will still have enough money to buy that 3rd Ferrari after this tour. I mean, how many do you need?
ARE YOU LISTENING DON HENLEY?
StAl
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: PSA #1268: For those of you who HATE Spam and Bill Gates, do yourself a favor and buy and eMac or iMac NOW!! OS 10.2/9.2 bundle has a built in, interactive Spam screener...By interactive - you help identify the 'bad' guys at any time and during the It first two weeks with a simple click. My work computer is deluged with crap, but it's barely a trickle at home...a safe haven...no lawsuits, expensive programs, joining earthlink or whoever, so you can spend your nights redialing...do the right things...after all, Gates stole or emulated the MAC OS when designing Windows. Remember, if you're on a PC using windows, you ARE on a MAC, just a sorry one...
Besides, those Steely Dan and solo album really sound great on the Harmon-Kardon speakers...
Also, don't forget to write Congress about (a) preventing cuts in health research funding, (b) fighting the RIAA/Mark Cuban coup on Internet Radio, and (c) Fuel Cell research...At this moment, Texas and Louisiana and Arkansas are choking on huge fire deliberately set in southern Mexico clearing rainforest for fuel and "development." Nothing pollutes more than large forest fires that burn extrememely hot... Fuel cells in cars and power plants will do what Kyoto can't...
update: Our troops here have gone underground vs. Clear Channel...stealth is the main attraction...more later....
User: Keyshawn (on the | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: St.Al- $95.00 for Steely Dan tickets in Cleveland. I would like your opinion on this. Come on Al, it's ok to "bad mouth" the guys. (again)
User: Bobby Trendy | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: I have FABULOUS NEWS my friends!
I have recently been contracted to re-decorate The Bluebook!
Join Anna Nicole and I as we give the old place a facelift!
Our special guest will be Dennis Rodman!
It's gauranteed to be a gas so don't forget to tune in and as always...
SAY YES TO PINK!
xoxoxoxoxoxoxo
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: Bad Sn - I got it! Check your mail.
User: duh!@ me | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: that would be cobalt..not colbalt....( there was a sale on "L's today...bought a coupla extra ones)
User: Her Again | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: ...Btw...the word "colbalt" was my SD reference...within 6 degrees.
User: RudeWaitress | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: Well...looks like the Steely Dan Cafe' and Roadkill Diner is being moved to England. Which means the menu will change..instead of 'opossum souffle...it'll be Baked Badger..4 and 20 Blackbird pie..and stuff of the like. So..all you bums that left me pissyassed tips and always askin' for crackers (without ordering soup)can just kiss my grits and get yer arses over the deep colbalt blue sea...for some tea and strumpets.I'll miss all you American bad tippers...but look forward to being pissed off by the Brits.
Yer everlovin', gum smackin', always pissy..RudeWaitress
OH GAWD...Cyn wants another drink...
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: Father's Day
That's what I mean! I can imagine SD putting ten different minutes of video on the 5.1 version just to be funny. We'll see.
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 8
Message: Bad Sneakers - this is STRANGE, I emailed you twice and you emailed me, I didn't get any from you. Please try again on the address above, take out NOCAPS from the address. I get tons of spam every day, it could have been that I erased your mail by mistake.
User: steviedan | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: by all means, lets...
was directed to cdbaby.com in search of evidence of the illusive "jaco: the early years" box which has a perpetual promise of release, yet remains in absentia. decided to test their "sounds like" search function and dear god, what a wonderful world this must be ! apparently, EVERY band you never heard of sounds like steely dan (including some dude named steve rashid who sings CHILDREN's songs). legitimately, herington's album is for sale there, but let me paraphrase:
"... we have actually found 240 albums that sound like sd. you may want to enter more words to narrow it down... "
amazing
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Old Poster,
Lets be adults... Nah, I like being a little kid too much.
Of course if I knew who you were it might help...or possibly not.
User: Old Poster | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Bill, why be such a child about this?
I'm just trying to get ahold of you, let's be adult about this, ok?
User: Father's Day is Steely's Day | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Hey Steven - it looks like from the newsletter the "Special Edition" is what you re looking for -- a cd, and then a dvd with 20+ minutes of video, and "special packaging" whatever that means. Probably give you a fake rolex with it or something ha ha. Of course it assumes that the 10 mins of video on the 5.1 mix is included in the 20 mins on the special edition DVD. If they're different videos that would be really cruel.
User: Free Breast Augmentation | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Don't go making a mountain out of a mole hill okay?
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Old Poster,
My email address? Okay here it is... Bill@Banned4Life.com
or you can try my alternate email at... Bill@HalfBakedGenius.net
Looking forward to hearing from you.
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: DACW, thanks.
The $64 question on the three EMG releases is, "Does any one of the options deliver all of the new material, audio and video?" I know it sounds paranoid, but I am very keen to get all of the morsels.
Anybody know?
Have I worn out my welcome yet?
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message:
Leave it!!
See you in August, if you can make it.
User: qwerty uiop | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Dano- Still in Corby bud, wow impressed you ever remembered was some feat. Just checking out some Bobby Womack so hopefully there is something there that pleases our audio senses. Hope everything is going well for you, I'll drink a can of stella *yeah sure just a can* in your honour.
Snakehips and C & W- Yeah, qwerty is prolly the easiest of names to type, perhaps the doctors had flooded my mother with too many drugs during labour with me? *plants tongue firmly in cheek*. Checking out your suggestions snakehips, thanks for compiling the list. I am left handed snakehips, was grinning reading that post. Well done on the detective work, could easily imagine you looking at the screen deciphering all the information with the bass and guitar doubling of "Josie" playing in the background.
I better get back to the downloading, take care good folks of the GB catch you all soon
User: an old poster | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Bill, what's your email address? I'd like to get ahold of you.
User: Dano | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Qwerty ma man , You still in Corby?? If you are get down to the local store and get Anything by Bobby Womack , the wifey will vouch for that Dooser , because the last time i was inside a woman was the Statue Of Liberty??
Beers , Sneaks , Dunc&Linda , Penno , Bassic , Fingers , What a Sound night?? What a terrific band.
August cant come soon enough you Geezers
Get the Wine, I will bring the KP Nuts?? And i know this Dooser of a kebab shop in town??
Off to Blackpool for the Brothers stag weekend , 1744....now thats what i call a year??
Cheers
Dano.
Cheers
Dano.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Chevy Chase actually performs? I thought he left that behind at Bard College....
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/entertainment/article/0,1299,DRMN_6_1905596,00.html
Snakehips: Hey, anything for you. As I said, I was holding that information for a few more months, but an early warning is nice. Something to look forward to.
W1P: That girl of yours is something else. :-)
User: bad sneeks | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Correction - Pretzel logic - was listening to said lightning on the way down to the gig - anyway don't listen to me I know nothing about music :-)
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Bad Sneakers:
Good to meet you and pleased you enjoyed the gig.
That 1744 must be good stuff - I did'nt even realise we had played Chain Lightning!!!!!!!!!!!!
See you at the next one?
User: Quarantined for the good of humanity | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Jim you simply have to stop coming here as Mr.Seaside.
Keyshawn try a laxative.
Pat you may be onto something with the meshuga thing.
Snakehips you naughty girl ;)
User: sh | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message:
Mister Seaside - Won't we be reveling in ecstacy if we celebrate National Masturbation Day on May 18th? LOL!
User: sh | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message:
qwert - i forgot "Teach Me Tonight" by Al Jarreau and (now that i think about it...i guess Cold Sweat is not really very romantic...lol)
St Al - you fell for that "sugarman" stuff too? sheesh...guys are so easy... ;-)
Angel - Very nice catch sistah! Can't wait to see The Blues next fall
User: Mister Seaside | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Don't forget kids!
Before we can all revel in ecstacy on June 10, we CAN celebrate National Masturbation Day on May 18th.
www.babesintoyland.com
Do what you can with your hands.
Celebrate the Day with Friends.
MS
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: W1P: I hear you. My 2 1/2 year old routinely demands I turn the XM radio to the "kids station" where I'm treated to the radio equivalent of Nickelodeon's Wild And Crazy Kids.
If you're a parent you'll understand how painful this can be.
Still, SpongeBob ROCKS.
Oh look -- it's frick (Keshawn) and frack (Dogs) -- totally obsessed with Steely Dan to the point they've lost the ability to relieve themselves of DSB (deadly sperm buildup) unless, of course, they're listening to Hey Nineteen whilst firmly gripping (probably with 2 fingers) a certain appendage...
Bill: That was funny. Even if you changed the name to Pat Beemer I'd still laugh. Visual humor is the best. I'm still convinced you're a little meshuga...
Where is Molly? Didn't blow away didya?
StAl
User: snakehips | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message:
qwerty - wow, it's so easy to type your name..lol
here's some more music for your consideration (and there's tons more, of course)
Sade - Lover's Rock (the whole CD is great)
Alicia Keys - Fallin'
Macy Gray- Sexomatic
Earth, Wind & Fire - That's The Way of The World
James Brown - Cold Sweat, Please, Please, Please
Elton John - Amoreena
Stevie Wonder - As, Signed Sealed Delivered
Van Morrison - Crazy Love, Into the Mystic
Aretha - Dr. Feelgood, Chain of Fools, Ain't No Way
Joe Cocker - You Can Leave Your Hat On
Otis Redding - I've Been Lovin' You Too Long
sh
User: Keyshawn | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Hey Bill: May be St.Al can ban you from here. I mean, you're already talking to yourself. Let's just make it official.
User: You lie down with dogs... | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Thinking about lifting that ban yet Jimmy?
User: University Of Illinois | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: University Of Illinois
Office of the Dean of Faculty
Re: James Mckay
Mr. Mckay,
It has come to my attention that you have continued your inappropriate
behavior towards our young freshman girls. This office has recieved
numerous complaints concerning you streaking through the girls dormitory
holding a smoldering hashish pipe and wearing nothing more than a raincoat.
I hope you realize that this amounts to a final violation on your part.
Please turn your campus I.D. to security and vacate the campus at once.
Sincerely,
Chancellor Sylvia Manning
User: Bellvue, did someone say Bellvue | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: 'Cause they're waiting for you at Bellvue,
with their oxygen masks
But I could give it all to you now
If only you could ask.
Oops, wrong performer. Sorry "Boss" :-)
User: Psych Ward Orderly | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: You'll be offering that apology in no time.
User: Digitized Voice | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: You leave me no choice but to fuck with your brain forever and ever
Mr.Hoops.
Belleview Psychiatric has 300 beds, no waiting.
101001010010010010100101010
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Hoops,
Stop calling my cell phone and telling me you love me.
The Hooters girls are becoming restless...
User: Beerberian | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Bad S; Back @ you mate .... pleasure to be repeated I hope (see mail) - many thanx for the Pasta & Vino on Friday too . Q Did Dano actually eat any nuts or just juggle 'em badly LOL .....
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: I think this is funny. My daugther now three is getting to the stage where she demands control over the car CD player. We just drove to and from Phoenix in the last 4 days. Of course there were generous helpings of Elmo and Dragon Tales, etc. But she has a taste for "popular music" Her top three are "Aja's song" (i.e., Aja) where she laughs at the top of her lungs everytime her name is said, "Emily's Song" (aka "See Emily Play from A Fair Forgery), "Daddy's song" (i.e., Pigs on the Wing from a Fair Forgery) where she laughs and says "Daddy, pigs don't have wings"). We had to listen to those three songs for hours on end and if we tried to put something else on we got vetoed every time. I know, its only cute to me.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Good catch Snakie. Here is the rest, since you brought it up. I've been holding onto it, for a bit. :-)
"Next fall, PBS will air The Blues, a seven part series about this uniquely American art form, executive produced by Martin
Scorsese. Each of the seven films is directed by a world-renowned filmmaker. In addition to Scorsese, the filmmakers are Clint
Eastwood, Wim Wenders, Mike Figgis, Charles Burnett, Marc Levin, and Richard Pearce.
The broadcast of the series is the centerpiece of a multi-media initiative created to celebrate the power and influence of
blues music. This initiative is kicking off with a congressional proclamation declaring 2003 YEAR OF THE BLUES."
User: bad sneakers | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: They came, they saw, they conquered
In the absence of the real thing, the dan collective will do just fine for me - a big thank you to fingers, bassinstinct and the rest of the band for a sparkling set on Saturday night. Highpoints for me - Glynn blowing over Chain lightning and TWM, great drum solo/josie, fingers understated but constant, nice backing vocals from Debs, professionalism from Chris when the daunting task of playing and singing almost got overwhelming, good sound and light experience too !!!
Big thanks to Beerberian and Morag for organisational skills, chilli, nice wine/chat and dedecation beyond the pale, Dunc and Linda - well it was a pleasure to be repeated soon I hope (and by the way David Mach did the train in Darlington !!! - www.davidmach.com) and as for Dano ?? Well there can be only one !!(do you check the back of your couch for peanuts though) - See you soon ya Dooser !!
Now if only I could get into Blues beach life would be just fine for the impending festival season.
Clas - no message received re: the CD - I sent a message to your homepage address detailing the studio addess - did you get it ???
User: C | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: That's alright Snakehips, I am slower. Much slower.
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: "qwerty"
Man, was I wondering?
The left top row of the keyboard. I was thinking organ, and hell;
Q W E R T Y ?
User: snakehips :-s | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message:
qwerty uiop - geez...sometimes i'm a little slow, duh...
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: I'm so glad I've gotten older, because I can hear Porcaro doing some things on Gaucho - the title track - that I couldn't hear back in college...
User: snakehips | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message:
Did you know it was the Year of the Blues? Has anyone mentioned this on this board yet? (If so, I missed it!)
=====================
Calendar No. 567
107th CONGRESS
2d Session
S. RES. 316
Designating the year beginning February 1, 2003, as the æYear of the BluesÆ.
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
August 1, 2002
Mrs. LINCOLN (for herself, Mr. COCHRAN, Mr. THOMPSON, Mr. FRIST, Ms. CANTWELL, and Mrs. MURRAY) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
September 5, 2002
Reported by Mr. LEAHY, without amendment
RESOLUTION
Designating the year beginning February 1, 2003, as the æYear of the BluesÆ.
Whereas blues music is the most influential form of American roots music, with its impact heard around the world in rock and roll, jazz, rhythm and blues, country, and even classical music;
Whereas the blues is a national historic treasure, which needs to be preserved, studied, and documented for future generations;
Whereas the blues is an important documentation of African-American culture in the twentieth century;
Whereas the various forms of the blues document twentieth-century American history during the Great Depression and in the areas of race relations, pop culture, and the migration of the United States from a rural, agricultural society to an urban, industrialized Nation;
Whereas the blues is the most celebrated form of American roots music, with hundreds of festivals held and millions of new or reissued blues albums released each year in the United States;
Whereas the blues and blues musicians from the United States, whether old or new, male or female, are recognized and revered worldwide as unique and important ambassadors of the United States and its music;
Whereas it is important to educate the young people of the United States to understand that the music that they listen to today has its roots and traditions in the blues;
Whereas there are many living legends of the blues in the United States who need to be recognized and to have their story captured and preserved for future generations; and
Whereas the year 2003 is the centennial anniversary of when W.C. Handy, a classically-trained musician, heard the blues for the first time, in a train station in Mississippi, thus enabling him to compose the first blues music to distribute throughout the United States, which led to him being named æFather of the BluesÆ: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That the Senateù
designates the year beginning February 1, 2003, as the æYear of the BluesÆ; and
requests that the President issue a proclamation calling on the people of the United States to observe the æYear of the BluesÆ with appropriate ceremonies, activities, and educational programs.
======================
Also, if you're interested, check out www.yearoftheblues.org
In honor of the year of the blues, the classic rock station here is playing Stevie Ray Vaughn requests all week. Hope they play Cold Shot...
qwerty - almost anything by Al Green...how 'bout "Love and Happiness"... and are you left handed? since your handle is the first six letters on the left top row of the keyboard...
t - good choice darlin'
sh
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message:
Steve CT: Three releases for EMG as I understand it:
(a) Standard CD
(b) Enhanced (Bonus) CD/DVD: the CD with 20 min of video attached...music videos, interviews, interactive games? who knows?
(c) DVD-A: DVD-Audio with 10 min of video attached
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click?bfmid=2181&sourceid=40140226&bfpid=093624849025&bfmtype=music
This is a link to Barnes and Noble's website. They are offering the SD 'Bonus DVD' for $29. I'm not sure what that includes.
I'm hoping the dvd's will be widely available and not be some 'limited time only premium'.
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: That's what I call a GREAT weekend.
SD officially entered our house on Sat night when Linda was overheard singing along to one of the tracks.
CanÆt explain what a treat it was to here Third world man ..live
Breakfast with Dano was an experience!!!!
Great to see so many friends again & meet some new ones.
To finish of the weekend we headed over to Newsted Abbey ( the home of Lord Byron ) on Sunday morning to spend a couple of hours in the gardens à
IÆll be posting the picÆs in the usual place as soon as I can.
User: Beerberian | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: SteveeD; Your mail addy is bouncin' .... mail me @ work I have news !!!
Moll; Second chance to get over here Grllll details to follow !!
BadS/Dunc&Lindy/Dano; Well you know I love you all !!!!!
User: when stevie comes home... | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: or rather, returns from the mailbox with the aforementioned peter huttlinger album "naked pop". you remember, the acoustic fingerstyle guitarist on steve vai's favored nations label who attempts a solo cover of "josie". well, on second listen (the tune, that is) i like it better. if you've ever heard tuck andress, it could use a little tuck-funk. the notes are nicely covered, but it's just a hair straight, stiff, whitebread, rhythmically; but really, just a hair. a sample of the other naked pop tunes: sting's "fields of gold", jackson five's "i want you back" (better funk factor), allman's "little martha" (barely embellished and nearly pointless, but a great tune well performed). some i haven't listened to yet like two stevie wonders, "sir duke" & "overjoyed", two beatles, "and i love her" and "eleanor rigby". uh oh, points off for the requisite "over the rainbow" (and i haven't even heard it). three tunes have orchestral versions, as well, and one of them is "josie". this version has bongos and philly-style strings. now that definitely makes it worth the six bucks i paid for it...
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 4 | Day: 7
Message: Jimbo - I heard that Springsteen offered Porcaro a whole lot of money, a WHOLE LOT of money, if he went on tour with him. Porcaro turned him down.
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: On the subject of Jeff Porcaro, there was an issue last year from Modern Drummer which had an article on him. I don't have it, but it mentioned that he gave up a gig drumming for Sonny and Cher to join Walter and Donald as a studio drummer for the Dan records that he would appear on.
Giving up Sonny and Cher for Steely Dan. Well worth the sacrifice, especially if it meant leaving Sonny.
Also, he even walked out of a Rickie Lee Jones recording session due to the sessions burning him out thanks to Rickie Lee's constant criticism
of his skills. A few years later, Rickie Lee asked him to participate on another album. Surprised that she even asked for him, he said yes. Apparently, she learned her lesson.
There should be a book about him. Is there one out now?
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: t: Wrestling Each Nanosecond Destroying Eternal Life
qwerty uiop: "You Make Me Feel Brand New" another Thom Bell classic from the Stylistics...cool electric piano...
If You Don't Know Me By Now" - Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes (Teddy Pendergras)
"Tell It Like It Is" - Aaron Neville
"Me and Mrs. Jones" - Billy Paul (listen to the orchestration)
"Then You Can Tell Me Goodbye" - Casinos (OK, it's kinda frat-rock but it's smooth and written by J.D. Loudermilk who also wrote Turn Me On, superb tune on Norah Jones' album)
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: Blues Beach,
1960's sunshine pop?
Not sure but it sure is fun to listen to.
User: t | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: DACW - Hey now... careful. You might hurt poor Wendel's feelings...
Btw, saw an interview where Wendel claims to have played on all the Beatle recordings Purdie missed...
qwert - I suggest Marvin's "Let's Get It On" for starters...
User: qwerty uiop | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: and adding my piece porcaro is God's choice of drummers, no one else has such a feel as he did, sorely missed, my personal hero
User: qwerty uiop | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: K here is the deal, I'm looking for some music that is funky, romantic, lil bit of pop, lil bit of soul.....gotta have great lyrics and feels sexy. I know some of you are gonna say this steely dan song and this one...blah blah blah...damn I'm aware of steely dan, I wouldn't be here otherwise, so if anyone has some cool suggestions please feel free to post them I'm gonna look at all suggestions so go ahead and type it...take care folks and have a nice night
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: angel: great find!
t: This is written in disappearing ink but:
(a) Porcaro played on one of the versions of 2nd Arrangement...I think we concluded that it was the original and a Wendelized Gadd played on the more disco-like re-attempt.
(b) Birth of the Cruel: Aside from Gadd's Third World Man and Purdie's shuffle on Babylon Sisters, the rest of the album would have far better off with Porcaro and no Wendel added...
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: W1P: got it - deposited. Lost your addy......kelp!
ygk
User: t | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: If that track made the album, it would have to be the title cut since that's the only song Pocaro played on... and it has the most complicated drum part too...
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: Mu: You have no control.... :-)
The comment that Becker made about the cut from Gaucho that was constructed from a drum track, is the one that turns up in an old article from Metal Leg. "Gary Katz talks about Jeff Porcaro".
Metal Leg Issue 20 January 1993.
"Jeff's formidable efforts on behalf of "Gaucho" rescued the track from being scrapped."
"We were recording tracks for Steely Dan's "Gaucho" album at A&R. It was Jeffrey and three other musicians. In those days, we would record tracks forty, fifty, sixty times until Donald felt he had a track that was steady enough. In those days ('79), we didn't use click tracks, and the kind of click track that was available, Jeffrey hated. We played the track for quite a long time that night, and at about 11:00 or so, Donald said it wasn't working for him. When that happened, it was usually the kiss of death; we never tried the track again and the song would be lost. So at 11:00 he and Walter felt they had exhausted that track and were going to call it a night. Jeffrey and I were upset about that, because it was definitely going to hit the can, and we loved the song. Donald said, 'Okay, you guys stay, and if you cut a track that you like, call us and we'll come back.'
"We stayed there most of the night. I had a chart, and Jeffrey would play a take, and I would hear eight good bars -- not that all the bars weren't good -- but I tried to think like Donald. But I would mark those bars, and then the next four good bars... we did about seventy takes. We finally left at about 5:00 in the morning, and the next day I went to the studio with Roger Nichols and Jeff, and we literally edited this track bar by bar. I had all these markings on my chart... it was a fluke that I made a track that felt good. We called Donald, and they came over late in the afternoon and couldn't find anything wrong with it. And as nonchalantly as he had left the night before, he said, `There's another track.' "
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: angel: I can't help myself. Here's the whole thing!!
FAGEN BACK AT THE SYNTH BLUES HARP!!! YIPPPEEEEEE!!!!
Live playing...practicing from charts...Hugh, Jon and mightly chops...Walter's solos...great article!!!!
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"Guitar Player
Copyright 2003 Guitar Player
HEADLINE: Lust for Life
DATE: June 2003
BYLINE: Art Thompson
Steely Dan's Walter Becker on Everything Must Go
****
If there's one thing you can say about Steely Dan, it's that they always
deliver exactly what you expect. True, their sound hasn't changed a great
deal in the last 30 years, but if consistency counts for anything, then
Walter Becker and Donald Fagen deserve kudos for sticking to the blues-
meets-jazz-meets-R&B template that has allowed them to create some of the
most intellectually stimulating pop songs of all time. And despite Becker
and Fagen's history of laboring to the point of excess in the studio,
their music always flows with the silkiness of a spring breeze.
Predictably, Steely Dan's latest release, Everything Must Go (Reprise),
is filled with catchy melodies, clever hooks, and fine guitar playing.
It's also a fairly stripped-down work by Steely Dan standards, reflecting
a desire by the two bandleaders to focus more of their energies on the
heart and soul of the songs, and less on the production. That's not to say
the slickness factor has slipped one iota - because it hasn't - but the
spirit and sense of togetherness that Becker and Fagen have tapped
into is readily apparent in the sheer vitality of the songs. Here, Becker
takes GP readers on a tour of the process behind the new album.
GP: Did you ever have any particular goals in mind for Everything Must Go?
B: Our mission was to cut live tracks, do the album in a more compressed
time frame, and have a fairly consistent band playing the tunes. Those
are all things we haven't had much success with in the last half of our
career. On the Aja album, for example, we had six or seven different
drummers. This time, we wanted to be able to spend more time focusing on
the songs and the feel, and less on overdubbing and stuff like that.
GP: Were there any differences in the way you recorded Everything Must Go
compared to your last album?
B: We recorded at a studio in New York called Sear Sound, which was
originally the Hit Factory. It was stepping back in time, because that was the
first studio I was ever in. Back in 1969, Donald and I did a record there
with a guy we were going to school with. The studio has an older Neve
console and a lot of vintage mics and outboard gear. There wasn't much room
to bring in any digital equipment, though, so we end up doing all the
tracking to 24-track analog tape. All the songs were complete performances,
and the six rhythm section guys did their parts without overdubbing. So
it was a different process in the sense that everyone was playing together.
We'd tried doing that on Two Against Nature, but ended up not succeeding
very well.
GP: But you've made a lot of other albums that way.
B: Oh yeah. In the 70's, that was really all you could do. You might go back
and strip-in or replace a part here and there, and, occasionally, we built
a track up from very little. I remember on Gaucho, we had one song that was
constructed from a drum track, but that was a pretty ballsy thing to do
at that time.
GP: What were the advantages in cutting live this time around?
B: The main advantage was the guys knew they had to pull together to create
a take, or else we were going to go home with nothing. That creates an
entirely different mindset than a situation where you have the musicians
play a bunch of takes on a digital machine, and then go, "Well, we know
we've probably got it in there somewhere." In that case, the band ends up
not knowing what the track will sound like, or if they even played on the
cut.
GP: Did this require extra rehearsal before going into the studio?
B: Not really. We cut the songs in batches of twos and threes, and before
most of the sessions, we'd take a day to run through the tunes. That
helped everybody get their hands around the charts and think about what
they wanted to do. Hearing the full band play the songs also gave Donald
and I a chance to think about tempos and stuff like that.
GP: Your music is quite complex - do you write out the parts?
B: There's usually a complete keyboard chart with chord symbols and some
rhythms written out. We always have a keyboard demo that we play for the
musicians, as well. On this album, (guitarist) Jon Herrington wound up
playing a lot of parts that were literally taken right off the demos.
Sometimes, we'll ask a guitar player to emulate a written part, but guitar
playing is one of those areas where you have to let the players use their
own chord voicings based on how they play their instrument.
GP: I know you took all the guitar solos on the album, but did you play
some rhythm parts as well?
B: Virtually none - although I did play bass on every song. All of the
rhythm parts were done by Jon Herrington and Hugh McCracken. Like my hero
Grant Green, I try to avoid playing more than one note at a time (laughs).
GP: But you could play those rhythm parts just as easily, right?
B: No. Those guys are real masters, and I certainly wouldn't be able to
do what they did. Herrington is an incredibly well-trained musician, and
a very versatile player. He's really a stickler about having the right
voicings, and playing inside the harmonic structure of the song. And Hugh
is great at coming up with deceptively simple parts that just sound
right. He's one of those guys who can make any lick sound better than you
can play it. The authority and feeling in his playing lends a lot to
the songs.
GP: You stretch out quite a lot on The Lat Mall - did you play that solo
live?
B: All of the solos were overdubbed - although we were trying to make it
sound like it wasn't the case. Donald can be very exacting when he's
being the producer on my solos, but I had a pretty good repertoire of
ideas for that song, so that one went down pretty easily.
GP: On Godwhacker you play some very tasty lines that echo the synth parts.
I can't recall hearing you do that kind of question-and-answer stuff
before.
B: Right - and we ended up doing that on a couple of tracks. I thought it
was a cool idea. Those were also both overdubbed parts. Donald did his
solo first on that harmonica-like synth, and I just simulated coming in
after him. I like the energy of it.
GP: You're also singing on Slang Of Ages. Why has it taken you so long to
do a lead vocal on a Steely Dan album?
B: I avoided it until the last possible moment (laughs). See, my singing
is pretty limited in terms of range and other things, so unless we plan to
have me sing something, the song will always exceed my vocal abilities.
Since that song was about talking, however, it worked perfectly for my
range.
GP: Did you play your Sadowsky guitars on the album?
B: Yes. I did the entire record with one Sadowsky guitar and one
Sadowsky bass. I love them. They sound great, they stay in tune, and Roger
Sadowsky is right here in New York. The guitar's basic setup gives me
all the standard Strat-type sounds I like, and it also has an onboard
preamp that lets me get more low-end when I want a thicker or more
mellow sound. The preamp gives you so much tone-shaping power that it
defines the guitar's sound as much as the pickups do.
GP: Are there any downsides to having active electronics in your
guitar?
B: In general, low impedance guitar preamps and signal chains tend to
create a little too much biting high-end. At times, that becomes more of
a liability than an advantage, so, occasionally, I turn the preamp off
and just use the passive pickups. I have Joe Bardens in one of my Sadowskys
and DiMarzios in the others.
GP: What kind of amps did you use?
B: This record was all done with my Mesa/Boogie Maverick combo.
GP: Did you get your lead tones entirely from the amp?
B: Yes. My lead tone isn't all that dirty, so when we play live, I end up
just turning the guitar down a little for rhythm instead of switching
to another channel. I've found that after I get into the thicker,
darker lead sound for a bit, I don't like to switch back to the brighter
rhythm channel. This time, I'll probably be using two amps onstage, along
with a rack that lets me get some reverb and chorusing, or whatever.
Because of the size of the places we play, however, there's already a lot
of ambience, so I don't really add much in the way of delay or reverb.
GP: Are you excited to be touring again?
B: Sure - it has been a few years, and I'm ready to go again. I've still
got a bit of hearing above 5kHz that I'd like to obliterate, and, like
they used to say, "Midrange is where the music is.""
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: Clas, I'm in Connecticut, not Cincy.
Funny note for the 'dishonest' cheapskates like myself. If you go to Grokster filesharing (a.k.a. music stealing) website and search for 'The Last Mall' and 'Blues Beach', you'll find many copies of each free for the downloading!!!! However, the half dozen or so of each that I downloaded are all "Sign in Stranger"!!!! Even though I was thwarted by this, I found it funny. It looks like it started with one fan who labelled an mp3 of SiS as TLM and BB and then let other fans D/L them and proliferate the scam (royal?). I note that there are a number of file sizes under each title too. Maybe one of the copies is the real new tune. I guess I'll either buy the single or wait a month.
I think Walter and Donald might appreciate the humor in this, even if they don't like missing out on royalties.
User: Bill@Keeping A Light On 4 Ya .com | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: Banned from the Green Book chatroom.
Banned from the Bluebook too.
Banned by the fundamentalist old gaurd.
But I'm still keeping a light on for you.
There may come a day that I'll leave here
There may come a day that I'll just go away
But it won't be done by a handful of politicians
And it won't be done by Jim McKay...
User: Damn! | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: It should be:
Schneckability
/C
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: Andy has the whole article up on his website, but I actually got a copy of Guitar Player Magazine yesterday (for the pictures). :-)
Interesting note is that all the guitar solos are done by Walter in overdub mode. Since he was playing bass in the live tracking, overdubs were the only way he could do the solos.
They asked a question about the solo on "The Last Mall" and he said "Donald can be very exacting when he's being the producer on my solos, but I had a pretty good repertoire of ideas for that song, so that one went down pretty easily."
Final question of the article: "Are you excited to be touring again?" Walter answers, Sure-it has been a few years, and I'm ready to go again. I've still got a bit of hearing above 5kHz that I'd like to obliterate, and, like they used to say, "Midrange is where the music is."
Check the whole thing out at the link above.
User: C @ W | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: You're probably right Howard, I took a closer listen, and that ending waffel on the acoustic piano doesn't sound like Fagen, he aint got that technique.
But I like the word "scneckability". No one can take that away from me.
User: Howard | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message:
Oleander - you're a star! The CDs you sent arrived last weekend, and I've been giving my ears a real treat with them. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I know I'm about 9 months behind the original set of comments on the album, but Justin Morell's Steely CD is a beaut. Superb playing, and nice arrangements. Good balance I think - enough of the original riffs, melodies and changes to feel cosy, but enough new stuff to breathe new life into the songs. The up-tempo reworking of Royal Scam was a nice surprise. Bill Frisell is also very tasty stuff.
Can I put in a first bid for the release date of the NEXT "New One". I'm sticking with my pessimistic trend and going for May 2007 ;-)
Opening lyrics of "FM"? I always thought they were "bury the bottle...", but realised I was wrong when I saw the official lyrics at SD.com. I've also heard a snippet of a 2000 tour boot where the band plays the FM verse groove during the band intros, and Walter starts by saying "Worry that bottle, worry it, worry it...".
Hutch - that muted guitar in the right channel on TLM is nice. They used something very similar on Jack Of Speed (fool that I am, I've been working it out), and maybe on some other 2VN tracks? I think it helps to build an interesting texture, and definitely gives the rhythm a kick, but doesn't clutter things up - leaves plenty of space.
My take on the TLM piano - it's not Donald. When's the last time he played acoustic piano on a Steely track? Countdown to Ecstasy? He's been a Rhodes/organ/synth guy for quite a while, and I'd bet it's stayed that way for EMG. And talking of organs (no not ENGORGE THY SMUT IV, though that's a great alternative name for the album... and wasn't it a film anayway...?), isn't there some organ in the intro of TLM? I think I can hear Rhodes + piano + organ. After the intro build-up, it's just piano and rhodes.
Howard
User: Clas & Work | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: Steven - are you from Cincinnati?
And I agree with you, the Doors lyrics was at its best in its time... as all things usually are. Even Steely Dan was a product of their time.
Those kids were arrogant and mean, writing songs like... um, "Black Cow".
Today they're eating carrots and other vegetables, and they are probably jogging to their psychiatri-sessions.
User: Beerberian - Sue me if I play too long | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: A Review in the best passable taste ààà
Five became Seven but lucky for us ætwas no secret àààà And they gathered from Edinburgh(Touring the Southlands), Cornwall, Sheffield, Darlington, Brummigham (Spiritual Home of the Bostin Rag), London/USA? and Brizlincote Valley ( ItÆs a well renowned wine consuming region hic !!) My Countdown to Ecstasy àhad begun - IN A TENT à dib dib dib - gin gan gooly ???
Disaster- Wedding Speeches stop soundcheck !!!!! and the feeling was bad at home I was out of my mind and Neil was on the phone û personally IÆd have played æem Haitian Divorce boys - Uhhh huh, congratulationsàààà
Scary woman on the door àà. Lucky I had a ticket eh? Mwahhh !!!!
Cold, daring, no flies on me.
Sorry, angels, I must take what I see.
Green earrings,
I remember
The rings of rare design.
I remember the look in your eyes.
I don't mind.
Greek medallion, sparkles when you smile.
Sorry, angels, I get hungry like a child.
[chorus]
I don't mind.
[solo]
[chorus]
AND then some ààà. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
àààà. Glyn closed his eyes and we were there àànow do you believe me itÆs everything I say !!!!!!!!
Yes it was F****** Cold àà.Daring ? Maybe àà Dan on Trent - a risk perhaps ? BUT 100 + Angels can now ôtakeö what I saw, AND remember the rings of rare design à.
How smug was I ?? on a scale of 1 û 10 àà.. I made it a 43 !!! Still cannot believe I took a bow à I saw the fireworks I believed I was dreaminÆ - If Only ôGrinningö was an Olympic discipline IÆd be odds on to come fourth (As any true Brit would be happy with) àà
Night by Night - the ship came in àà..
Rikki had a number à. And a marimba feat. Fingers Shotan
Josie came home à.pride of the neighbourhood àà
Peg was done up in blue print blue à.
The Rag was sooo BOSTIN !!!
I WAS a Bookkeepers Son - There in that darkness, I knew what I'd done
My playground was a Tent Filled with LOVE - I bet they drank Carling Black Label à..
Katy got 12/10 for trying / lying à.whatever, I was So with The Dr
I literally ôReeled in the yearsö all the way back to æ72
Pretzel Logic Defied ààà..Now that really WAS the best yet (go on I dare ya !)
The Babylon sisters whirled with gay abandon (explain yourself Neil) @ the front û Deb, Morag & Sue CERTAINLY Cut it in this rube town àà.
ALL on stage excelled û Glyn was masterful despite cold fingers û how the hell they could be cold moving @ that speed , is beyond me æthoà Chris W gets more and more like Fagen each set in voice and keys à Mr Shotan ôthe marimba maestroö actually visible & audible on the stage. Neil & Ian rhythm kings crowned û No pressure on Mr Beestin then ? dazzling skins solo first track back after the breakà. And absolutely tops to see the two special guests Touch of class added by Deb L R and Mr BrightonÆs ever sparkling wit - You must DO IT AGAIN ààà
I WOULD spend my last piaster to see these GuynGals I sincerely advise you to do all you could to too (tutu Desmond ?)
I remember the 35 sweet goodbyes @ 4am ààà When the dawn patrol got to tell me twice ààà SHUT THE F*** UP !!!!!!! OK ???
User: Ooh... is the Gaucho Super Audio? | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: Meanwhile, Gaucho gets yet another treatment. This time in *Super Audio*:
http://www.surroundpro.com/2003/april/col_music.shtml
Sounds complicated. The Gaucho tapes have to be worn off just from remixing itself.
wormy - Yesterday, it was tomorrow, so it should have been today. Shoulda, woulda been.
b
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: Thanks to angel, DACW and SteveeDan the Third. Stevee, I meant no disrespect to state fair or those who perform at them.
I just heard so much Doors music in college, I got totally sick of them. And the bad 60's vintage poetry done with deadly seriousness was to much to take. I got to where I could look at the poster of Morrison with the caption "An American Poet" and keep a straight face.
User: Clas | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: Stevie - ok, thanks. I will put that one on my list.
Roy Scam - man! How could I forget "Black Cow"? But, I said that the songs "Aja" and "Deacon" is boring me. Not the whole album. Anyway, "Black Cow", that's a genuine favourite.
/PS "Schneckability" - that's something I got from Steely Dan's Studio Glossary - look it up at the ODP, very funny stuff - words like "Flyer Tuck = the guy that makes sure the live drummer is tight with the sequenced drums".
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 4 | Day: 6
Message: SteveeDan:
Must be bass influenced tinitus - could have sworn it was "bury".
No matter, the gig was a stormer notwithstanding howling winds and heavy rain. Great audience (as usual) and a very fine job by the PA/Lights guys. Could have gone on all night.
Till next time.
User: stevie still sizzlin' | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: coming off a huge weekend for offspring artistic achievement. oldest debuts as choreographer for high school production of "godspell", receives award, standing O, and even has to step in five minutes for sick actor, totally off-book (we're still trying to figure out where those [female cajones] came from) and youngest shines in dance recital. i stayed choked up half the weekend...
z, that sounds loverly ! nothing beats sitting in a string section...
i was just listening to chris potter's "unspoken". what a band: john scofield, dave holland, jack dejohnette !
roy, i was thinking JUST the same thing as i starting reading you. anyway, i reported the pete huttlinger cover a week or two back. matter of fact, i'm waiting for it to come in anyday courtesy half.com. i'll let you all know if it lives up to it's props and speaking of props, i agree on the chris farley vignette. credit's due...
credit due also to dacw (mu ?) for the reprint of the cc article.
clas, the m mcdonald dvd is called "a gathering of friends" on image ent. it's one of those all-star affairs but it's a tribute to mcdonald and he performs on every tune...
User: SteveeDan the Third | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: So let's see ... StevieDan has welcomed back Steve V from Singapore ... I too would like to say hello to Steve V ... how are the kids doing? The last we heard from you was after the birth of your second child I believe.
... And for the top 10 least understandable lyrics (post 1267) ... there does exist some marginally concrete explanations for them. The one that stands out for me is "Brooklyn Owes The Charmer". This has to do with the guy who used to live downstairs from Don and Walt in their college days ... and how their neighbor died was was left undetected for a long time. Oleander probably has the whole thing under control at her site.
Herm (Post 1356) ... so you want a glimpse into the tribute band scene. I would be happy to answer your questions ... but this is not an inquisition, right, ... because I wasn't expecting that, Monty.
Steven in CT (post 1350) ... well, that makes 4 Steves ... anyway, your quote: "... If Morrison was still alive, they would be opening for Bachman-Turner Overdrive at the Illinios State Fair. ..." Careful on that one. The current Steely Dan tour is mainly State Fairs (at least that's where we have to see them in California ...) so if you will excuse me I have to be taking care of business and score some tickets.
Bassicinstinct - true, it IS Worry the bottle. You can even hear Walter on one of those live CDs say "Worry it, worry it ..." How did the gig go this weekend?
Hello Dr. DACW - regarding the San Francisco Masterbate-Ah-Thon ... I would think there would be some stiff opposition to this ... at least some friction, doncha think? (This one's too easy ... sort of like a gimme stroke ... in golf ... and it could even get out of hand ...) And ... what's a bird in the hand worth?
SteveeDan
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Jobs, Apple, amd iTunes sell 1 million songs in one week:
http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=121589
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Don't forget Bill's brother Bob was Clinton's attourney...kinda runs in the family...
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message:
Urgent Communique from AOL Time Warner Without Ted Turner Whatever:
WBR & REPRISE RECORDS: The Cinco De Mayo Edition
Happy Cinco De Mayo. On May 5th, 1862 the French army attacked two Mexican forts, but was soundly defeated. They got their asses kicked. Mexico has been celebrating ever since. France has not. In France they call Cinco De Mayo "May 5th," and they celebrate by not attacking Mexico anymore. We celebrate it by sending you this email. Notice that the first two sentences seem educational to fool nosy teachers and bosses who don't want you to know about good music. Thankfully those people won't even read this far, because we don't want them to know that we use the word "ass" five more times. Enjoy!
Forget school. Shirk work. Spend time checking out these artists instead:
Steely Dan
(and a bunch of losers)
Madonna (the new nude Bill Bennett)
Flaming Lips
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Barenaked Ladies
Less Than Jake
The Used
Another song, another album, another masterpiece. Hi, we're Steely Dan.
Why aren't the guys in Steely Dan the most conceited bastards in the world?
They have, after all, been making incredible music for longer than a lot of people have been alive. You can't turn on the radio without hearing one of their mega hits from the last thirty years. And now you won't be able to avoid "Blues Beach" the new single from their new album, Everything Must Go. The album comes out June 10th, but "Blues Beach" comes out as a Digital Single tomorrow. Preorder it now. You'll get it via email on May 6th. Don't trust any product labeled "Everything Must Go?" That's okay. Surely you trust the people at Microsoft (hey, I only trust Steve Jobs). Click here to listen to "Blues Beach" on MSN.com
steelydan.com
I'm not trying to defend Bennett, but gambling is as addictive as alcohol to some - it's happened to people in my family lineage...
Actually, it does evoke some fun and irony from our perspective ...
User: They got a name for the winners in the world... | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: from article about William "handle in his hand" Bennett, two quotes I that cracked me up:
"There's a term in the trade for this kind of gambler," a casino source who had seen him gambling was quoted as saying.
"We call them losers."
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"There is, indeed, no record of him speaking out against gambling. But that, the commentator Michael Kinsley argued in Slate magazine, "doesn't show that Bennett is not a hypocrite".
"It just shows that he's not a complete idiot. Working his way down the list of other people's pleasures, weaknesses, and uses of American freedom, he just happened to skip over his own. How convenient."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,950087,00.html
User: DACW - Alabama bans Steely Dan IV, again | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: They should move the circle jerk-off to Alabama - where it's manual only
The most embarrasing thing about the Crimson Tide - is that they've just fired their coach for getting lap dances in Florida and a $1000 room "service" because he couldn't get any at home...if they don't have electricity yet, is this moot? or does this still apply to "C" batteries? Y'know, they've also been working over this legislation for a year...I posted something last year about it...
You go back, jack...do it again...
Let's go to Luckenbach, Texas...Willie, Waylon, and the boys...
User: t | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Um... as a matter of fact St. Al., he just happens to live next to me. Tell you what - you just sent that big fat spliff to me and I'll make sure he gets it...
User: Hutch | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: St. Al - Good one! I can't stand that phony bastard either. He's probably a closet transvestite.
And here in Virginia we got Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson.
Snake-oil salesmen.
Hutch
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: And on the other side of that we have...
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apfeature_story.asp?category=1120&slug=AL%20Sex%20Toys
Oh, and a moment of personal glee occurred earlier this weekend when I read that William Self-Righteous-Asshole Bennett was put on the hot seat for his gambling vice. Now he's asking for forgiveness.
Anyone know his address? I think I'll send him a big fat spliff. He could probably use it right about now...
StAl
User: Six Degrees Of Elvis Costello | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Wormy: Elvis and O'Riordan split late last year.
Does this mean that Elvis must recant his earlier position on Steely Dan due to the jazzy nature of his new lover?
StAl
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Rose Darlin' and all his friends:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=573&e=2&u=/nm/20030505/od_nm/odd_masturbation_dc
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Steve CT: Three releases for EMG as I understand it:
(a) Standard CD
(b) Enhanced CD/DVD: the CD with 20 min of video attached...music videos, interviews, interactive games? who knows?
(c) DVD-A: DVD-Audio with 10 min of video attached
User: Sociable Hermit | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Oh yeah, one more thing...
I'll be working on something in the near future, and need to do some research on musicians in tribute bands. So, if I put together a list of questions, would any of you folks in bands, or people outside of the band with enough familiarity, be interested in answering them for me via email? I probably won't have my head out of the pile of work I'm currently doing for at least another two or three weeks, but I thought I'd ask now before I prepared anything. Nothing major, no "Behind The Music" info; I'm interested mainly in thoughts, lifestyles, goals, finances, (no, this is not an I.R.S. trick), etc. I'll get into it more later.
Anyone willing to lend a hand and offer me a peek into their world would be greatly appreciated. (I'd like to say you'd be rewarded as well, but I'm not even up to that point yet. I'd offer you a peek into my world as a sort of barter arrangement, but I'm afraid you'd laspe into a coma from the boredom.)
Later,
Herm
User: Sociable Hermit | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Hey All!
I don't know about you, but I'm not waiting all the way for Father's to get the new one; I'll be camped outside the Border's in Valencia waiting for nine A.M. (at least I think that's what time it opens. I should probably check).
Later,
Herm
User: wormy | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: so today should "have been my lucky tuesday"
judging from the past
I can eagerly wait three years and 4 months between Dan releases
Elvis Costello and Diana Krall?
so what happened to Elvis' wife - ex-Pogues singer Cait O'Riordan?
that's an odd pairing - Beauty and the Beast and hopefully we will be treated to a musical partnership - then again at the expense of Steve Nieve
User: Dept. of Those Who Just Don't Get It: | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Just had a kid come in and brag that he already has the new Radiohead cd that's due out next month.
The cd's called "Hail to the Thief"...
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Steven: No real idea of what the content of the DVD's are. Andy Metzger's site has some of the links, but he is just as confused as the rest of us.
Click the link above, or use this:
http://www.andymetzger.com/
User: dvd-lovin dad | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: But SD should do well on June 10th.
Can you spell
F A T H E R ' S D A Y ?
User: Steven in CT | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: I posted here long ago. I'm looking for a bit of advice from the Dan Fans in the know. I hear that EMG will be released (1) as a CD and (2)bundled with a DVD containing 20-minutes of supporting material and (3) in some other form with a different DVD (???). What's the story? I have no problem buying multiple copies/versions as long as there is some new 'meat' there. I want all the Steely Dan I can get. Where can I reserve the stuff I need?
My two cents: I heard way too much Doors music in college (UConn 78'-83') to not hate them with every fiber of my being. If Morrison was still alive, they would be opening for Bachman-Turner Overdrive at the Illinios State Fair.
Aja is a superb album. My favorites ebb and flow. There were a number of years where I didn't appreciate some of the longer songs as much. Now, I think they are all gems. Just find the right tune or disc to fit your mood.
You folks have a nice little web community here. Thanks for letting me chime in.
S.
User: tonez | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Blaiser - not that this is any excuse, but June 10 is the next major release date for the industry. Labels like to have heavy hitters released on the same day to compete for the customers attention, for instance Radiohead's new one (Hail to the Thief :-) is also coming out 6/10. But it's the proverbial double-edged sword: on one hand, it's good that the Dan is being considered among top echelon of recording acts, but it doesn't help that most of the media attention will probably go to the trendier acts.
Major releases (imho) for tomorrow:
Richard Thompson
Etta James
Blur
Jack Johnson
Boz Scaggs - sings jazz standards
Israel Vibration
Wouldn't have been much competition for promotional space this week...
t
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: ¯: How right you are...those pencil-necked bastards better promote the shit out of it...get Azoff off the N-Stink tour or whatever...since we have to wait another month, we better see a freakin' No 1
All is quiet on the North and South Texas fronts - preparing for the big assault...[static]....out....
User: Blaise | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Of course, Mu. If pushed enough out there, this may well become a radio hit. I like the fact that it's resolutely reminiscent of a beer commercial ("much sweeter and merrier, with a big tropical cooler") at times and yet it makes fun of that scene. So you may hear that one blasting at the beach but yet it speaks of that environment in a tongue-in-cheek manner. Once again it feels like this ironical trip to the frozen food section that Gibson once related in an article about the Dan.
And to think tomorrow would have been the day we get it all, if it wasn't for the fancy of some lame record execs.
That's what we were led to believe anyway.
Damn them. I want one now.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: AAA Charts:
For the week ending 5/02/2003
Triple A Most Added¬
(1) Jackson Browne á About My Imagination (Elektra/EEG) I never hit anybody
(2) Steely Dan á Blues Beach (Reprise)
(3) Bruce Cockburn á Open (True North/Rounder) Oh, Canada!
(4) Coldplay á The Scientist (Capitol) Just don't sing at the Oscars again
(5) Nickel Creek á Smoothie Song (Sugar Hill) toxic waste site near Cripple Creek?
Triple A Going For Adds
Artist áTitle (Label)
(1) Flaming Lips á Fight Test (Warner Bros.)
(2) Jesse Harris á All My Life (Blue Thumb/VMG) the Songwriter for Norah Jones?
(3) Liz Phair á Why Can't I? (Capitol) lay a whitechocolateeggthing?
(4) O.A.R. á Hey Girl (Independent)
(5) Peter Stuart á Vertigo (Vanguard)
(6) Steely Dan á Blues Beach (Reprise)
(7) Susan Tedeschi á Don't Think Twice, It's All Right (Tone-Cool/Artemis)
I have no idea how the last category is quantified, but it sounds like stations putting Blue Beach "on deck"
User: Jimbo | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Still no word on any Pittsburgh dates from the Dan boys :(
But I just saw on E! last night that Elvis Costello is now engaged to Diana Krall. Unusual union between the two, huh?
User: whatadick | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Boy, that Bill's a piece of work. What an asshole, eh?
He fits right in over here.
Nothing like mid-morn' Nazi references.
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Well I visited the so-called "Green Room" chatroom last night and was
subsequently banned...
Yes my friends I said BANNED. Banned as in Censored. Banned as in Silenced
And for what? For trying to do something unheard of in the world of the
Bluebook. For trying to do something that the stuffed shirts upstairs
frown on. For trying to do something contrary to the stale letter of the
law as outlined by one James "Hoops" Mckay. For trying to have fun.
Yes my friends, trying to have fun in the "Green Book" chatroom is
strictly forbidden. One must maintain decorum at all times or risk
expulsion.
NEVER crack a smile.
NEVER suggest a silly thought.
NEVER act irreverently.
These are the rules of the green book. Forget them at your own peril.
Always remember, THE ELDERS ARE WATCHING.
All hail the rules of the green book!
Sieg Hiel!
Seig Hiel!
Seig Hiel!
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: re: Fagen in TLM...yes, It COULD be. He loves to used those chords as rhythm as much as a base for the melody...gets that Ray Charles Swing thing going... plus I'm hearing some stuff in the right hand that reminds me of the end of the intro to Springtime...
User: bassicinstinct | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message:
FM Lyric..........
"BURY the bottle mamma" surely???
User: Roy.Scam | Month: 4 | Day: 5
Message: Clas~ I'll just have to disagree with you about Aja. Any album with "Black Cow" is entered onto my classics list unqualifiedly (even if the other six songs are Yani covers of Motley Crue songs.) That song still yanks my receptors out of their roots after dozens of attentive listenings; there's nothing about it that doesn't work (for me). The slow funk groove, the melody, the bass, the sax, the vocal, the keyboard, the lyrics. I don't see how a pop record could be better executed.
Throw in "I Got the News", the song that "Green Earrings" wanted to be but didn't quite achieve, the incredible melodica solo (or whatever that thing is) in "Home at Last", three deserving hit songs, Gadd and Graydon showing off magnificently, and a police whistle to boot. That's a better than 'just good' album. Perhaps "Deacon Blues" has suffered a degree of hyperbole; maybe it should be downgraded from legendary to merely superb.
Schnekability? - nice noun.
RS
User: C @ W | Month: 4 | Day: 4
Message: Mu - that acoustic piano on The Last Mall has that Fagen Schneckability to it. My guess it's the man himself playing it.
User: Clas & Work | Month: 4 | Day: 4
Message: LP - worry beans? Are you saying that the guy just want to fiddle around with the bottle... or more correctly; he wants his MOTHER to fiddle around with it?
Jesus Maria Magdalena, if you're nervous, open the bottle and drink, for Christ sake.
Tones - I am pretty serious about those songs, Deacon and Aja. They are not bad, but I find them boring.
Uncle Donny - sorry, but it had to be said, and maybe it was just the bad-vibe-environment I was living in at the time.
But I liked your sunglasses.
And that dog.
User: almost gothic negative girl | Month: 4 | Day: 4
Message: I have not been able to determine an onsale date for the Harvey's Tahoe Show. I have called the venue several times, and they don't know. I click the official sd.com link, and there is not any info yet for that show. If anyone has updated information regarding this, please post here or e-mail me. Thanks so much. It is just absolutely fantastic that the Dan is touring again this summer. See you at Paso Robles, Konocti, and Tahoe. Peace.
User: typetoofast | Month: 4 | Day: 4
Message: FM
Hutch
User: DanAudioCrackWhore | Month: 4 | Day: 4
Message: Huthc; I think we got something - sounds like the same lineup and position in space as Blues Beach...we gotsa Band! - except substitute the horns for the Wurlitzer and the backups are at 1:30 in the soundscape...Carlock reminds me a little of Porcaro in RM (boy, Jeff was awesome with those cymbal fills and effortless changes of pace)...the swing in TLM is really set up by the snare at 12:30 and then then the piano chord at 10:30 in unison with the next snare beat...thus the beat literally SWINGS from right to left to right to... they swung the drum beats on WASAM...
Guesses for The Last Mall
Drums: Keith Carlock
Piano: Ted Baker (left channel)
Fender Rhodes: Donald Fagen (right channel)
Bass: Walter Becker
Guitar: Jon Herington (left channel - rhythm)
Guitar: Walter Becker (12 o'clock)
Guitar: Hugh McCracken (right channel)
Horns: Michael Leonhart (trumpet), Lou Marini (alto sax), Lawrence Feldman (tenor sax), Roger Rosenberg (bass clarinet)????
Backup singers: Cynthia Calhoun, Carolyn Leonhart?????
triangle: right channel
Horns arranged by Donald Fagen
Man, I thought for all these years it was:
"HURRY the bottle momma"
User: Luckless Pedestrian | Month: 4 | Day: 4
Message: i think clas, worry the bottle is like carrying worry beads, except it's a bottle with some alcohol within
driving across the island to church this morning, listening to bb and tlm i remembered fagen's whole fake jazz thing, and then i was thinking that alot of stores/malls/grocery stores play steely dan in their loudspeakers, so, the last mall would sound abolutely hysterical standing in the middle of crate & barrel, now wouldn't it
a nice chuckle as i dropped my daughter at church school
celebrated the thought with the boston globe, organic columbian (coffee, come on) at a picnic table on albert meadow overlooking the porcupine islands
afternoon bike ride around a lake - 4 year old singing blues beach to herself riding in her carriage attached to dad's bike
stone soul picnic
does it get better than this? maybe not, but there is always a buzzkill lurking on a monday, lol/smirk
back to work
User: Hutch | Month: 4 | Day: 4
Message: Things I like the most about TLM (with the headphones):
Three guitars. McCracken and Herington on either side and Dr. Becker right in the middle. Palm muted Peg-like guitar in the right channel.
The whole intro guitar solo.
That thumpin' bass with the little grace notes before the 3 and 4.
I'm liking the main guitar solo more and more. It sounds like noodling but there's a method to the noodleness. He's playing right with the horns on certain little bits at the end of phrases. Especially on the last one before the vocal comes back in. And the little riff he plays over "We've got a sweetheart sunset special" after the main solo is very cool. Reminds me of the stuff Larry C. was doing on Kid Charlemagne when the vocal comes in after the solo.
The hi-hat on the bridge. And on the whole thing for that matter. Carlock's great.
"Ride the ramp to the freeway" and the horns burping between the words.
The guitar kissing the checkout girls goodbye. I think it was LP that mentioned that one earlier.
The whole horn chart. Is that a bari sax over on the left?
... well, I guess I just like the whole damn thing!
I think it's one of the best Steely Dan songs I've ever heard.
Saw the little one page article in Bass Player magazine on WB. Nice picture of him standing there in a suit with his Sadowsky bass.
Watched the interview with Skunk Baxter on CNN the other night. It was kind of funny. The woman interviewing him was asking questions that basically amounted to "Why would the govt. hire someone who looks weird"?
And Skunk said "They don't care what you look like as long as you know what you're talking about".
He said he's also helping out with imaging technology now.
And he ended the interview by saying, "Thanks. I'm proud to be here and proud to serve".
Kind of cool.
Ole and Roy - You know I'm in for the Manassas show. And I'll likely have a few Richmond friends coming along with us.
Hutch
User: toenz | Month: 4 | Day: 4
Message: Clas - I saw that Bowie ntrvw too. You're right, he's always been a pretty poseur, but he's also always had the chops to back it up. And being a fantastic song writer doesn't hurt... Love that connection he made to "My Way" about "Life On Mars". I've seen/read/heard lots of Bowie ntrvws but I've never heard him tell that story before...
Anyway... just thought I'd chime in about that before all the fallout you're going to get for your comments about Aja... lol...
A Dan fan not liking "Aja" and "Deacon Blues" is like:
going to Paris and saying the Eiffel Tower is ugly
going to Hawaii and saying there's too much sunshine
ordering guacamole and complaining that there's avocado in it
having sex but not liking orgasms
Seriously... have you heard "Aja" on headphones? That might change your mind.
stay cool and dandy
t
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 4
Message: Moll - yeah, and that blind dude, with the acoustic guitar, didn't he do a cover of "Light my Fire"?
JosT Feliciano?
Anyway, reading things about Morrison's lifestyle put me in trouble, as the easily led guy I was, they said; when Morrison felt that he needed vitamins, he put TWO cherries in his drink.
And then that damn Fagen came singing about whiskey all night long... which had me leaving the beer and go for hard liquor.
Intoxicating.
Glad I never had a car.
---
Did anyone of you Brits see the Parkinson talkshow with Tom Hanks and Bowie? I can't say I am, or have been, a fan of David Bowie, I've always thought he'd been too pretto and posing, but he and his pianoplayer did a great "Life on Mars". Really, I was impressed, great voice, and the pianoplayer was great.
User: Moll | Month: 4 | Day: 4
Message: Clas, I agree with your assessment of the Doors. Given the time period that they were performing, I think they were pretty good. My oldest brother Dean saw them play at Bellarmine college on Halloween night. He says it was a great show. The Doors weren't well known yet, and Morrison hadn't descended into madness yet. I would have loved to seen them perform.
A nice poem to share...
.
.
"The Dreams of My Heart"
.
The dreams of my heart and my mind pass,
Nothing stays with me long,
But I have had from a child
The deep solace of song;
If that should ever leave me,
Let me find death and stay
With things whose tunes are played out and forgotten
Like the rain of yesterday.
.
Sarah Teasdale
.
User: Moll | Month: 4 | Day: 4
Message: Clas, I agree with your assessment of the Doors. Given the time period that they were performing, I think they were pretty good. My oldest brother Dean saw them play at Bellarmine college on Halloween night. He says it was a great show. The Doors weren't well known yet, and Morrison hadn't descended into madness yet. I would have loved to seen them perform.
A nice poem to share...
.
.
"The Dreams of My Heart"
.
The dreams of my heart and my mind pass,
Nothing stays with me long,
But I have had from a child
The deep solace of song;
If that should ever leave me,
Let me find death and stay
With things whose tunes are played out and forgotten
Like the rain of yesterday.
.
Sarah Teasdale
.
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 4
Message: Hey Z, z
You guys are really pushin too hard
User: C & W | Month: 4 | Day: 4
Message: Roy Scam - strange, on the ODP, the lyrics says "Worry the bottle".
Why would anyone "worry" the bottle? How do you do when you "worry a bottle"?
User: Clas @ Work | Month: 4 | Day: 4
Message: I don't understand why Aja is the most popular Steely album, I mean, seriously, the sound (okay, maybe it was my lousy stereo-equpiment at the time), and the long, boring song "Aja", I never really liked that one. Not "Deacon Blues" either. "Peg", and "Home at Last" I liked.
Katy Lied, Royal Scam and Gaucho, my favourites.
Hutch/Mu - the space yeah, and this time they are swinging again, like a band.
---
re the Doors, I actually saw them play here in Stockholm, not remembering much, only the Manzarek left hand bass playing (which inspired me to buy a Farfisa and play "Light my Fire 'til the neighbours went nuts).
And Morrison's black leather pants.
I don't think they were overrated, good songs, really.
---
Ztevie - what do you mean? The M McDonald DVD concert?
User: David Moore | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: Oleander-and you didn't call? Damn
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: DACW/MU: Great find!
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Don, Walt and JFK?
Quote from an article on Frank Sinatra and John Kennedy, running this month in a magazine (that shall remain nameless). Page 144 ;-)
Sinatra's Valet is speaking. (All parentheses are mine)
"Naked Lunch" was what he (JFK) wanted. Mr. S. didn't get the joke. JFK had to explain his reference to the title of the hip heroin novel by William Burroughs. Mr. S. said he'd never heard of it. Why the hell would a guy like the Senator (JFK wasn't President yet) be reading about a heroine?"
User: oleander | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: lp--nize thoughts on l-u-v.
Halfsies--great list.
Steve V--where you been, man? Are you ever coming back from Singapore?
RS--You got a ride, my man.
Re "Blues Beach": just spent a week on the west coast of Fla., including swimming with the manatees. Every other joint is called The Manatee Something. Manatee Bank, Manatee U-Haul, Manatee Tattoo.... And there are these weird parasail gizmos which are motorized and fly disconcertingly unattached to anything--my candidates for para-whatever gliders.
tonez--hokay. Whenever.
"Newtlike translucence." Love it.
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: GORDION
User: DACW | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: A little over 25 years ago, the future husband ofthe other Nancy Wilson wrote this piece...I vaguely remember the Forion knot line...
"Steely Dan Springs Back
The Second Coming
By Cameron Crowe
Their new album, held throughout product-glutted summer for just the right moment, accidentally came out the same afternoon as the new Rolling Stones LP. Their first tour in three years was canceled. They haven't had a hit single since 1974's "Rikki Don't Lost That Number." And still, their sixth and most esoteric effort yet, Aja, is one of the season's hottest albums and by far Steely Dan's fastest-selling ever. Suddenly, against all the odds, it's Steely Dan fever.
They are the unlikeliest super-group - perhaps because there is no group. Two blurry character named Walter Becker and Donald Fagen write and construct the songs, then hire highly skilled studio musicians to execute the parts. They even play themselves, but less and less, it seems, each album. ("It wouldn't bother me at all," says Becker, "not to play on my own album.") The infrequent product of their labors is labeled a Steely Dan album. Any further details are subject to Becker's and Fagen's notorious distaste for facts.
There are, though, plenty of stories making the rounds: about Becker and Fagen being "obsessively maniacal" Scrabble players whose marathon games have wasted weeks of valuable studio time. Or the one that suggests they wrote Aja about their fetish for shooting ducks locked in copulation. Or the former president of ABC Records who reportedly disowned them, calling them "worms."
They are said to delight in making mincemeat of outsiders, these two. There were questions to be asked, though. It was an ugly job, but somebody had to do it.
I arrived at the tiny Malibu guest home of Walter Becker the day Aja was released. It was late afternoon, morning for the bass-and-guitar-playing half of Steely Dan's composing team. I waited in a quaintly domesticated living room, amid harmless collections of beach shells and artifacts. I could hear Becker playing guitar, soling lazily along with a jazz station in a back bedroom. He was just waking up.
A moment later, neighbor Donald Fagen pulled up in a black sports car. The lead vocalist/keyboardist/composer breezed straight into the kitchen for a mug of coffee. Becker emerged with Fender in hand; wordlessly, the two took seats. There was something vaguely disconcerting about their Eddie Haskell smiles; they were quite aware of their heinous reputations.
"We do encourage that misconception," allowed Becker. "But it's not that accurate." He lit a Marlboro with shaky hands. "We're no longer belligerent to interviewers, for example...."
Fagen immediately dispensed with the diplomacy. "A lot of interviewers are just jerk-offs," he snapped, taking a swipe at a fly.
The pair are like delinquents taking an oral exam in detention. Becker is long-haired and wispily bearded, in the spirit of Robert Hughes' later years. He exudes a newt-like translucence. Fagen, by comparison more tanned, is dark shades that he will not remove. And his mouth is caricature-sized; it's as if he has an extra two inches of lip and no room for it. It's true - they could be characters from their own sinister songs.
They obviously sleep all day. I asked how they spend their nights.
"Writing songs," Becker replied. "I go over to Donald's. He comes over here. We spend a lot of time doing that." He played casual solo and thought. "Overdubbing too."
"Most of our time is spent on the Working Process," Fagen began, slapping the arms of his leather chair. "We spent most of the year recording." Fagen stopped slapping. "But I don't know what we were actually doing."
"Overdubbing," answered Becker.
"We overdubbed a lot of the overdubs over." Becker grinned luxuriously, cracking open a can of Coke.
"Yeah, we did," Fagen added.
Becker turned to me. "That was why...." I waited for him to continue. He did not. So much for anecdotes.
They don't own a Scrabble game, as it turns out. The duck story "must have come from our doing interviews during the Hotel Bel-Air phase. They had ponds with swans and shit." However, that former ABC president did, they say, call them worms.
"We didn't deal with ABC for a long time," Becker said. "We were definitely on the shit list over there, can you believe it? And we didn't give 'em a hard time or anything. We have a great relationship with them now. They were just pissed as us for being...I don't know." He shrugged. "Worms, I guess."
Their contract with ABC runs out with the follow-up to Aja; rumor has it they will follow their producer, Gary Katz, to Warner Bros.
"Oh yeah," Becker continues. "We're going to Warner Bros. We've got one more with ABC of new material. Lemme see, then they have the rights to greatest hits album. Steely Dan: the Golden Years, or I Remember Steely Dan..."
"That Was the Steely Dan That Was," Fagen suggested.
"The Good Songs," Becker decided. "Then we'll be doing the same thing we're doing now, except for Warner Bros." Having just summed up the next, oh eight years of his life, Becker took another sip of Coke.
(Current ABC President Steve Diener, who wrote the liner notes for Aja, was anxious to comment: "I hope they stay with the label. I have a lot of respect for these guys. I really mean that. The reason I tolerate and even encourage them is it's necessary for their own creative perfection. But when they deliver...they deliver. They are a very special breed of cat, and that includes their producer, Gary Katz.")
"Really," added Fagen, about his and Becker's Working Process. "This is the job of the decade." He has, it seems, adapted his entire sense of humor to the nasality of voice. "We're just sitting out the Seventies, waiting for better times...."
Becker and Fagen met ten years ago at Bard, a progressive college in upstate New York, "and we're tired of talking about it." They had the same eclectic tastes in jazz, and together began to write their own uniquely overeducated from of pop and rock. They floundered through several amateur bands - one of which was called the Bad Rock Group and included Chevy Chase on drums ("We don't remember him," says Fagen) - and eventually wound up playing with Jay and the Americans.
Becker and Fagen gladly relocated in Los Angeles when producer/friend Gary Katz took a West Coast staff job with ABC on the stipulation they be hired as label songwriters. Katz promptly assembled around them a band that would play their material exclusively. He chose East Coast musicians he had worked with before: Denny Dias and Jeff "Skunk" Baxter on guitars and Jim Hodder on drums. Becker played bass; Fagen handled keyboards and, for the first time in his life, vocals. Another vocalist, David Palmer, was later added to help with stage presence. They were named after the William Burroughs dildo in Naked Lunch.
With Katz at the helm, Steely Dan recorded its debut album, Can't Buy a Thrill, and, amazingly, scored hit singles with "Do It Again" and "Reeling in the Years." "We had zero expectations," Becker remembered. "In fact, we were amazed that ABC bought the album at all." He snickered. "It was like a dream come true."
By the time of Pretzel Logic, Steely Dan's third album, the concept of a rock band as airtight touring-recording-touring unit had all but evaporated. The band, now including keyboardist/vocalist Michael McDonald, last performed live, briefly but expertly, in 1974. But the music had already taken a spectacular swing in the direction of forward motion jazz.
Steely Dan built a new audience from the remains of the old. The band also gained much attention for its tradition of not listing detailed credits on its albums. It became a serious obsession among musicians to figure out who played which solos on Steely Dan records. Most of the time it wasn't the band members pictured on the album, but hired guns.
"That cold stigma about studio hacks," Fagen bristles, "is nonsense. You can get studio musicians to sound exactly like a rock & roll band."
Becker: "We don't feel it's something to be ashamed of. We had outside players on the first album. [Jimmy Page calls the Elliott Randall guitar solo on "Reeling in the Years" his all-time favorite.] The Beatles did it quite a bit, by their own admission. A lot of things Eric Clapton played...everyone thought it was George Harrison."
The original Steely Dan band dissolved soon after the 1974 tour, making official, says Becker, "the enlarged-band concept, if you will." Hodder and Dias returned to the lucrative freelance status. Baxter went on to join and start the resurgence of the Doobie Brothers, later bringing with him Michael McDonald. Steely Dan became simply Walter and Donald, the journeymen be-boppers from Bard.
Becker: "It was unfair of us to spend eight months writing and recording when Jeffrey Baxter and others in the group wanted to tour. We weren't making very much money and everybody wanted to be out touring a lot. We didn't. That was that."
But touring is generally the means of amassing fortunes in the music business, and Becker and Fagen, with their costly taste in crack specialists, were going broken in a hurry. According to sources close to the band, they secretly signed with Warner Bros, in '74 and spent most of their advance buying out manager Cohen. Warner Bros., however, will admit to having them signed only since last year.
The relationship with Katz continued. ("Why shouldn't it?" asked Becker. "He has a moustache.") They next recorded Katy Lied, using players from all areas of expertise. "It was better sounding than anything you've ever heard to this date," recalls Gary Katz. "Even Aja. Unbelievable. We went in to mix it, and the tapes sounded funny. We found out the DBX noise reduction system we were using was not functioning properly."
Becker, Katz and engineer Roger Nichols took a midnight flight to the DBX factory in Boston and after some work by experts, were told the malfunction had irreparably damaged the tapes.
It is a testimony to their studio prowess that the "flawed" sound on Katy Lied is still much advanced compared to any of the competition. "I am a fan first," Katz underscores. "It takes a long time to make an album that all three of us are really happy with. It's a three-way effort. One review like...the sterling production of Gary Katz, and I will take a good two, three days of abuse from those guys."
All three are predictably proud - and remarkably free of even playful sarcasm - in discussing their working relationship with such jazz musicians as Wilton Felder, Victor Feldman and particularly Larry Carlton. "In the past," said Becker, "it has been Larry who played most of the guitar solos. We're probably hardest on guitar players. But we get the best work. I suppose other people go into the studio and jam around and it's, 'Let's get something going,' until they get a few riffs that they can try and write some words around. We've real charts and everything. It's more productive. The musicians enjoy getting asked to do something that's challenging. We like working with an overview too. It's difficult, but it's fun. It's not stupid music."
They have been known to discard entire tracks because of a single bad move. Six months later a musician may realize he's reading the same chart and playing the same song with a different band. "I imagine you have to have certain jazz consciousness to understand what we're doing," said Fagen.
The Royal Scam, the fifth Steely Dan album, continued the lyrical descent into the seamy underside of society. It's a particular favorite of fanatics who savor Becker's and Fagen's Gordian Knot of oblique losers, dopers, ravaged lovers and doomed optimists. But the composers do now warm to specific questions.
"We actually think most of these songs are pretty funny," Fagen commented. "We don't construct them as puzzles. We try to tell a big story in a very short period of time. Naturally we have to exclude some information. We don't discourage any speculation."
Personal harassment from the hardcore devotees has fallen off in recent years, though Becker and Fagen still reminisce about the fellow who followed them across country to retrieve "the girlfriend." He had finally figured out what Becker and Fagen were talking about. They had her...and they were taunting him. "Ah well," Fagen said. "It tapers off when you're not touring."
Becker and Fagen now write off their announced plans for a fall return to touring as "speaking out of turn."
"We thought it might be a good idea again," Becker says. "We actually made one full start with a bunch of musicians. We're going to try again soon. I think maybe we underestimated the time we needed to start something from scratch and have it sound like...something, you know."
The problem, according to Katz, was the rude realization that they could no longer capture the increasingly intricate sound of Steely Dan on record with a few rehearsals.
"I push them so much...I do. It's selfish. I want to see it. They may not owe it to anybody, but they do owe it to themselves to go out and play," Katz says.
The plan now calls for the next Steely Dan album to be recorded by two different studio bands, each performing one side of material. One of the bands will then tour as Steely Dan. The songs will be written in New York this time. In the meantime, though, Becker and Fagen are staying in L.A. to compose the title song for manager Irving Azoff's film, FM.
"I don't particularly like L.A.," said Becker. "Nobody knows we're out there anyway." Their only recent public appearance, and that's stretching it, was when a small public-sponsored station invited them, on an outside chance, to conduct their own late-night radio show. Becker and Fagen showed up with armfuls of their favorite obscure jazz records and joyously took the station over for the night. "Radio Free Steely Dan," Becker announced, "is still open for offers."
In anticipation of Aja, Katz mounted a small campaign urging Becker and Fagen - who fancy themselves as more exclusive than reclusive - to take a higher profile. This included a meeting with Irving Azoff. "We were ready to go blissfully through life without a manager," said Fagen.
"We were doing fine, you know," Becker added. "Going out and looking for managers is like going out and looking for rattlesnakes. Irving impressed us with his taste for the jugular...and his bizarre spirit. He thought we could do much better about making American Steely Dan conscious. He wanted a new hobby. We figured, sure, take a shot."
Which, in itself, is quite a concession. Becker and Fagen are oblivious, even apathetic, about the pursuit of commercial or critical success. "We just keep the quality up for ourselves," Fagen insisted.
"We're proud that we don't have any cuts or at least ones that we think are inferior. These days most pop critics, you know, are mainly interested in the amount of energy that is...obvious on the record. This is primitive rock & roll energy. People who are mainly Rolling Stones fans and people who like punk rock, stuff like that... a lot of them aren't interested at all in what we have to do."
I wondered if he intends to keep it that way. "I don't care," he said, slapping the chair again. "Doesn't mean that much to me. We have no idea who's out there buying our records."
Three weeks later, with Aja the first Steely Dan album to break into the Top Five, a visit to Irving Azoff was in order. I dropped in on Azoff at his Benedict Canyon home one Sunday while he was watching his beloved Rams - and one suspects a small investment of his own - succumb to the New Orleans Saints. Staring glumly at a huge Advent video screen, Azoff brightened only at the mention of Steely Dan.
"Here's how we did it," the twenty-eight-year old megamanager chirped. "Simple strategy. Think of the biggest American supergroups. Fleetwood Mac. The Eagles. Chicago...." Azoff broke into a triple-platinum smile. "And Steely Dan. Everybody knows Steely Dan. They belong in that list. All we had to do was make it official."
His ambition for Becker and Fagen is fueled by the fact that he, like Katz, is a fan. Three years ago, Azoff was wearing out copies of Pretzel Logic. Now, having finally acquired Steely Dan, he is in the frenetic but enviable position of managing all of his favorite artists, including Boz Scaggs, the Eagles, Jimmy Buffet and Dan Fogelberg. "I used my power base," Azoff said, "and called all my rack-jobber friends - the guys in the field and the record chains - and I offered them Aja for a suggested $6.98 instead of the $7.98 list price. Most of them knew they could stock up early and retail it as if it were $7.98. They all bought two, three, four times as many as normally. I told them the offer would last two weeks.
"We never raised the price. And they kept selling. So here's this album that's Number Three in the country. What radio station isn't going to play a h it Steely Dan album. It's been the most-played album for weeks. We killed the Stones, didn't we?" Azoff paused. To curse the Rams, who lost by two points. "It was fun," he resumed. "Those guys would have gotten three sooner or later anyway. They deserved it sooner."
I figured Azoff might be able to assist me in relocating Becker and Fagen - the new American superstars weren't answering their phones - for some last-minute reflections on their sudden explosion.
Azoff scoffed at this in are-you-kidding tones: "They could be anywhere. They haven't returned any calls in weeks. When those guys go underground, they disappear. I get no special privileges. They probably don't even realize they have a huge album."
The phone rings late on deadline night: it's the elusive Walter Becker calling long distance. Vacationing in Florida, he's in a frisky mood, reeling with stories about a new band whose sessions he's been attending: Root Boy Slim and Sex Change Band Featuring the Rootettes. "This is a real laugh," he says.
Root Boy Slim is a figure straight out of Becker's and Fagen's musty backroom imaginations - a pudgy white blues singer of such deviant songs as "Bride of the Burro," "Christmas at K-Mart" and "Too Sick to Reggae." Becker and Fagen knew they'd been topped the instant they discovered him in a Baltimore nightclub. They cajoled Gary Katz, now equally rabid in his devotion, into producing and signing Root Boy Slim to Warner Bros. Now Becker and Fagen, at career peak, are at his sessions. Doing what? "Kibitzing," reports Becker.
Becker has to be steered in the direction of Aja. "I certainly don't think it's any more commercial than any of our other albums," he says. "I haven't heard it on the radio yet...but I read how well we're doing." He chuckles. "I guess we're achieving the success we so richly deserve. On the whole, I think this is a very rewarding thing."
I wonder how it feels, at least for tonight, to be bigger than the Rolling Stones. Walter Becker immediately balks at the comparison. Perhaps one can try too hard to extract the Secret Intentions of Steely Dan. So I simply ask if he feels as though he's in a band at all.
"No," Becker answers earnestly, "but we can get a real good one together in a hurry."
Courtesy of Rolling Stone #255 - Cameron Crowe "
User: whatever- | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: Len Freedma.n is the PUBLISHER and Irving Azoff is the management. If anyone truly cares.
User: Hey Z | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message:
You get it
thank you
bluz
in the canyon with the "Seeds"
User: z | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: Punk was actually started by Love in LA with their uptempo version of "Hey Joe" back in '66. On the "Outtakes From the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival, David Crosby dedicates the tune to Love and The Leaves and proceeds to destroy whatever was left of the melody to that tune.
steviedan- the banjo gig went great last week, sitting in the string section with some of NYC's best violinists and cellists (and even harpist)I experienced 3 hours of pure bliss, switching back and forth from my Borys B120 guitar to the Gretsch tenor banjo.If we could bottle that feeling, maybe Doc K. and I wouldn't be addicted to whatever drug we're addicted to this week.
The guy I was subbing for had no idea how to play with an orchestra, and wound up drowning them out with both instruments!
I hate to steal gigs, but when the season starts next Fall, I might get the call instead of you-know-who.
It's a tough town.
User: DRAGON | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: MARRY ME DELIA
I'll love and cherish you both the rest of my days
User: Roy.Scam | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: A quote I once heard from Sha Na Na: "We may not be your favorite rock band, but we can beat up your favorite rock band."
Oleander~ I'm good, barring scholastic conflicts, for the D.C. show. Perhaps we can orchestrate a Mid Atlantic caravan. (By 'caravan', I mean, 'I scrounge a ride from someone.')
I'm going to see Chick Corea in a small auditorium tonight. Should be excellent; I've never seen him in concert before. I don't even think I'll use drugs (except , of course, for the usual life-maintaining ones.)
Good to see JWMalibu, Hank, Worm, the Duck, and StevieDan refrequenting these yellow corridors.
Whoever did that Chris Farley/ Fagen interview: That was aw-haw-summ. (Was that you , Hank?)
My son says there's an acoustic version of "Josie" by a guy named Pete Hutlinger that's really impressive. Anyone heard it?
Some songs that my uncle wrote in 1974 that never caught on:
Lipshitz's Band
With a Stick
Pine Nut, North Carolina Toddle-Loo
User: Paige | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: Bill...
Excellent point on the Doors.
I remember when "The Soft Parade" made it to the record stores and how many Doors fans thought they had "sold out." For me, "The Soft Parade" was a natural progression of their work. Yes, it was different, but doesn't that define the Dorrs in general.
And as far as the soundtrack to Apocoplypse Now...For me, the movie would have never had the impact on me that it did without the haunting sounds from the Doors...Particularly, "The End."
Jim Morrison was not only the Lizard King...he was the tortured poet of his time.
-Paige
User: W1P | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: Anyone who has read "Please Kill Me," which traces the NY punk scene to Lou Reed/MC5s/Iggy should also read "We Got The Neutron Bomb" which traces the LA punk scene to Jim.
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: The reason I say The Doors were one of the most influential bands of
60's is that they did something unique at the time and they had a strong
influence on many bands to follow.
Many of your Punk-rock bands of the 70's and Grunge-rock bands of the
late-80's/early 90's were heavily influenced by The Door's sound.
Most of The Doors music had a harder edge to it and much of it was driven
by the same angst that drove Punk and Grunge.
To say that songs like "Moonlight Drive", "Soul Kitchen", "L.A. Woman",
"When The Music's Over", and "Riders On The Storm" were not significant
to the overall developement of rock music in to show a complete
misunderstanding of it's basis and history.
Ask yourself this...
If Francis Ford Coppola had not chosen "The End" as the theme song for
the movie "Apocalypse Now" would the movie still have had the same
impact on the viewer? I think not.
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: Merci ¯
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: Aww... what the hell... too funny.
From the Toronto Globe And Mail, this morning's Entertainment section:
Outside The Box
By Stephen Cole
Saturday, May 3, 2003 - Page 9
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"I once interviewed Steely Dan after they'd completed a disastrous television interview and caught a bitter, funny tirade by lead singer, Donald Fagen, who recounted how the band quit touring after a soul-defeating TV appearance in the 1970s.
The group was to perform on a syndicated New York music show, but producers ended up busing the musicians to a New Jersey sound stage where, in the middle of the night, they lip-synched their current hit to an audience that consisted of the unsympathetic doo-wop group, Sha Na Na.
"They were on next and sat in front, legs dangling over the seats, insulting us," Fagen remembered. "Jeff Baxter was pretending to solo on guitar and they made fun of his tight pants when he closed his eyes to suggest depth of feeling.""
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: better use the url box above, or below.
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 3
Message: Following an interview, a recounted interview with Fagen recalling:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20030503/GT18BOX/TPEntertainment/TV
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User: steviefication | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: aja, totally correct ! i think i meant the estate. i remember seeing her name in one article connected with the case...
just got back in from the gig and am listening to the "no nukes" thing from 1979 with the doobies, jackson browne, john hall, springsteen, jt, csn, bonnie raitt, poco, chaka kahn, gil scott-heron, and at this moment, jesse colin young. quality music AND politics. remastered beaUtifully !
User: El Camino Real | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Interesting after all the years the rip on the Doors..
built on jazz and soul nothing more..the same cats that fall all over themselves wih flip flops and shorts on a 50 degree beach day in the west,
make those comments..transplants..as morrison was from florida, the only difference he did it..understood a sound
bulit on jazz..as don and walt have..who would compare the two groups?
southern california made them both.
Played today
Papa John Defrancesco..Jumpin.."24/7"(new)
Stanley Turrentine..lP Rough N' Tumble.."feelin good"
Joe Williams.."the great city"
Roomful Of Blues.."Q's blues"
James Harman Band.."if the shoe fits wear it"
The Crusaders.."urban renewal"
Stan Bock..Night Grooves.."sho nuff did"(new)
Maria Muldaur..A Woman Alone With The Blues.."I don't know enough about you"(new)..remebering peggy lee...
Mc Coy Tyner..Uptown Downtown.."blues for basie"
Wayne Shorter..Night Dreamer".."black nile"
John Lee Hooker.."I need money"
John Brim.."ice cream man"
Lee Morgan.."cornbread"
Vincent Herring..All To Real.."invitation"(new)
Ahmad Jamal..In Search Of.."island fever"(new)
Charlie Parker..Jam Session.."funky blues"
Jimmy Witherspoon..The Whole Blues An nothing but The Blues.."sooner or later"
Nina Simone.."don't let me be misunderstood"
Esther Phillips..From A whisper to A Scream.."home is where the hatred is"..produced by the great creed taylor"
Randy Brecker..34 TH N. Lex..'shanghigh"(new)
John Scofield..Works For Me.."I'll catch you"
I'd walk through a blaze of fire
if I knew you were on the other side,
just to put my arms around you
to keep my love alive.
Otis Spann
"Burning Fire"
bluz
User: hoops | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Tickets for Steely Dan at the Gorge on Saturday, August 2, including the concert, parking, and camping the night before and after the show go on sale Monday, May 12 at 10 AM Seattle Time (1:00 PM NYC time) through TicketMaster. No word yet on prices at TicketMaster.com or Steely Dan.com for that matter.
jim
User: should read: | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Top 2 meanings for "...charmer under me..."
User: Top 2 meanings for | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: 2. He really feels the cute chick in the apartment below got a bum deal
1. He's mentally reciting the lyrics to himself to keep his concentration while he's having "relations"...
User: What the fuck? | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Couldn't get into the *anarchy-online.com* site because my browser DIDN'T CONFORM TO CURRENT INTERNET STANDARDS!!
Anarchy online my ass... lol...
User: fiferoni | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Coming to Ottawa blues festival july 4-13:
Ben Harper and The Innocent Criminals, Elvis costello and The imposters
Cesaria Evora with Gord Downie and the country of miracles
Sum 41
Sheryl Crow
Great Big Sea
Kool and the Gang
The Allman Brothers Band
Have Love Will Travel featuring Dan Aykroyd and Jim Belushi
Isn't summer grand!
User: um | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Len Freedman is their publishER...not their publiCIST. Huge difference. Go back to sleep!
User: John McGaughlin | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Answers Mortonnnnn!
A1 Which steelmaker's boss has resigned?
(a) Corus
(b) Chorus
(c) Taurus
(d) Toys R Us
(a) Corus
A2 Which city is famous for steel?
(a) City Fox
(b) Sheffield
(c) Nutbush City Limits
(d) Mysterious Cities of Gold
(b) Sheffield
A3 Steel Magnolias?
(a) Specialist florist
(b) Flower scrumping
(c) Chick flick
(d) For Iron Maidens
(c) Chick flick
A4 Steeleye Span sang
(a) Rikki Don't Lose That Number
(b) All Around My Hat
(c) In the Steel of the Night
(d) Steel Waters Run Deep
(b) All Around the Hat
A5 What was his name?
(a) Tony Pedder
(b) Steely Dan
(c) Metal Mickey
(d) Daniel
(a) Tony Pedder
How'd we do Brits?
Halfway: That's Skunk at the end of "Only a Fool Would Say That" enunciating the title in Spanish...
User: mechanized hum | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Check this link out for an answer to who/what "MASISSI" may be all about!
http://community.anarchy-online.com/character/bio/d/1/name/masissi
User: mechanized hum | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: "They weren't at all keen on discussing the lyrics on 'Gaucho.' The only explanation Walter Becker was prepared to give (and even then only semi serious) was the definition of the Custerdome. 'It's, ah, one of the largest buildings in the world. You know, an extravagant structure with a rotating restaurant on top.'
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Publicist for the Dan for the last freakin' 30 years + is Len Freedman-wake up!
User: Bob Barker | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Daily quiz.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,915489,00.html
And the winner is:..........as I approach the stand.
User: Hutch | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Skunk Baxter will be interviewed on CNN Headline News tonight at 8:45.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: I guess it could be Florida, but the spirit of it feels Hawaii to me. What can I say. Hang Loose.... :-)
The stuff at the end of Only a Fool Would Say That is Skunk Baxter's (Spanish) version of the line "Only a fool would say that", I believe. But then again, I don't speak it, so he could be saying anything (and probably is).
User: HalfwayCrucified | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: In answer to your questions, I humbly offer:
Top ten "what the hell does that mean?" ala Steely Dan:
10. Semi-mojo: refers to the lovechild of Babs and Clean Willy; a mulatto or octoroon kinky so-and-so adorned with baggy neutral Kids-R-Us cargo pants and ratty Steely Dan T shirt.
9. "How can you knock this mighty spitelock...": is actually an Elizabethan Olde-English word which referred to the lock that was affixed to a woman's chastity belt. This lock was obviously intended to prevent any nefarious Falstaff from jousting the woman with his ôTrue Staff.ö Woe to any fair maiden who's cuckolded knight, well in his cups, misplaced this key.
8. "...see her do the can-can-Jacques": ôBackàJackö the obsessive/compulsive loser from CanÆt Buy A ThrillÆs Do It Again, leaves the confines of the ôAppleö and ôLost Wagesö, dons a beret, smock and nom-de-guerre; ôJacques-Chirac-from-Around-the-Blockö and waits anxiously in line with hundreds of his fellow ex-patriots to see this stubble-legged franco-femme lift her skirts. And by the way Genevieve, can you say the words bikini wax without smiling?
7. Angular banjoes: this referrs to the Japanese biwa, Troubadours of ancient Japan used Biwa in the storytelling tradition. Pear-shaped with four or five strings and played with a large plectrum, it was brought from China to Japan in the late 7th century with other instruments of gagaku (court music). Often used as a solo instrument with voice, the Biwa has found a place in many strata of Japanese society from beggarly priests to court nobility. Biwagaku: Music played with the instrument Biwa. It should be noted that you should not listen to Biwagaku while operating heavy machinery or in conjunction with any type of nasal inhaler.
6. "With a handle in your hand...": this term referrs to the infamous æone-armed banditsö of the Las Vegas Rat Pack halcyon days before being replaced through technology, laziness and complacency with the ôRepeat Betö button which now allows you to lose your rent and injectable insulin money with the touch of a finger.
5. "They all masissi but we hang tough..."
4. "High in the Custerdome..."
3. "E l'era del terzo mondo": translated from the Italian means; ôand it is of the third worldö. Where else would this neÆer-do-well sing his Ghana Rondo? Certainly not the streets of Positano! àà.Especially in light of the fact that Ghana now holds a seat on the U.N. Security Council.
2. the Italian gibberish at the end of "Only a Fool Would Say That"
1. "Brooklyn owes the charmer under me...": when this Guido is through doing his 9-to-5, driving back-and-forth from Bensonhurst to Bay Ridge in his mobile replacement auto glass Grumman panel truck, he simply wants to sit on his front stoop and pop open a Genessee long-neck and think about what might have been if only he hadnÆt cashed in the shares of Oracle his stepfather left him before disappearing with the drycleanerÆs wife to Scottsdale.
User: Mock t | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Angel:
Interesting...I had the exact opposite reaction - I thought Hawaii until I heard the manatee reference, because I'm pretty sure Manatees exist only in the Americas, and mainly around the Fla. area (though I think there are some in the Amazon river, strangely enough). Though I think it is almost certain that they wrote the tune in Hawaii, given that they were there writing tunes for this album, and it would seem that if any songs were directly inspired by there surroundings there, it would be this song.
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Hank - if you're able - email me......
the image and song 'plays' like it should be working, but there's no sound.
It looks like I'm set up alright, but I can't get it....
help if you can.......thanx
ygk
User: Aja...................getting in touch with my limbic system | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Have some crawfish Monica for me, wormy, and say hello to Dr. John for me (note to self: pick up "Duke Elegant")
"i believe densmore and pam morrison are the parties". I believe Pam died 3 years after he did, didn't she? Allegedly, in his case (ha ha).
DACW gets the Danphrase of the Week Award for "a voice that rises from the limbic system".
Friday countdown to ecstacy.........
Aja
User: Hank Silvers | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: YGK: Since you're using Internet Explorer, I can't see why there'd be a problem. Do you have scripting disabled by some chance? Company firewall blocking it, maybe?
Blues Beach at the URL above.
My youngest sister was born the year after Jim Morrison died, but the Doors are her favorite band. Even though she wasn't of that generation, to her, they must still have something to say. Whatever it is, I'll admit I don't get it.
User: Promotional Idea of the Week: | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Just sold 2vsN to a person who had never really heard Steely Dan before... Seems a "friend" of his, knowing his fondness for jazz, did a striptease for him while playing Cousin Dupree. The, uh... "song" ;-) made such an impression on him he looked up the lyrics on the net (personally, I can't believe he even noticed what song was playing...), and wants to know if the song would be as impressive without the visual presentation. I told him somehow I doubt it, but there's other things to like about the album. After hearing me gush (tastefully)about the boys and pointing out some of their musical "highlights" he said he'll probably be back to explore their back catolog.
Ahh... another fresh mind to warp...
I think the Warner marketing dept. should take notice, maybe hire her... (and me too...)
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: For some reason, I can't hear BB from the entertainment/msn site.
What am I missing?
kelp!
ygk
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Wow! An underground economy!
Sounds like a Steely Dan song......
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,947880,00.html
ygk
User: Lady Bayside | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Wishing I was down in N'Orleans right THIS MINUTE. This is the kind of weather we had last year.
For those northeasterners who might want to revisit Jazz Fest (with the caveat that it is in New Jersey!), there is Michael Arnone's Crawfish Festival Saturday May 31. They have some good musicians lined up, some good food (directly from down South), and lots of beer. Check the web--they have a website with the schedule, food vendors who are going to be there (the alligator sausage was awesome!) and other stuff.
Marcia Ball, who I saw last year at Jazz Fest, is one of the acts appearing...that girl has some chops!
Anyway, Wormy, thanks for the shout...next year for sure.
Also, Aja...email me if you are interested in one of the tickets. Jones Beach is going to be some party!
Oh--knew there was something else--since the snippet of Blues Beach I heard, I haven't been able to hear so much as a note of the new one. I might just go virginal on this and wait until the CD is officially out. Sort of build the anticipation, so to speak.
Lady B
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: I am surprised the article didn't mention the Manatee Bar. I think Hawaii in that lyric.
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Do you think it's time for Walter and Donald to move?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2136-2003May1.html
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: John: Read the bottom of any press release on Steely Dan's website regarding the new disc and you will have your answer...
Interesting arguments both for and against the Doors. But what it really boils down to is there is no right or wrong answer. You either dig 'em or you don't. I dig 'em. But Stevie is right. Not acknowledging their contribution to style and sound is rather narrow thinking.
StAl
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Hey fella, I already apologized for posting that. I was mistaken.
I said strike it off the record already.
What do you want? A blow job?
User: So | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Angel and others--What was so "interesting" about that Becker interview? It gave no new information.
User: Booze Beotch (my take) | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Booze Beotch (my take)
It was scrapin' bottom
Hangin' in the park
It takes some trusty trunks
To really meet the sheer lenght of my private parts
If I shift it left, it's out of town
And then it trips my heels and I crumble down
Booze Beotch
I'm tryin'
slidin' in ungraceful ways
And these are long-legged chinos of baggy design
I went thru some frustrations, watched the neighbors fuss
They went gasp and runnin' every which way but unhappily all over us
If contained, it's miles wide
I say hey LAPD, give my cup a ride back
Booze Beotch
It's strainin'
Hand this well-hung man a crow bar
You see this stone's throw pecker is hardly aligned
You would need a pair of metric rulers for Hippo testicals, friend
and you could sail to my bended end
Great big garments, blankets
Stranglin' my dart
This could get a whole lot worse
What if suddendly I did get hard
Give your roommate Yvonne a ring
'cause if she shows up now
I'm gonna pull some seams
Booze Beotch
I'm tryin'
tuckin' in some graceful ways
But it's so long and windin', I've put up road signs
User: Floridavid | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Channnel flipping and Saw the Doors thingy on Craig Kilborn last night. Actually wasn't bad. Manzarek and Krieger looked like they were having fun. Ian sang a credible "love me two times". They had a Bass Player and what looked like Tim Alexander From Primus on Drums. Good luck to them.
User: john | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: does anyone know who the publisit is for the DAN
User: hypo | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: inspired by the hawaii article and blues beach - hey blaise
other vain denied trys to use "hyphothetical" in a rock lyric
11) the brill building's mouthful answer to heretical and medical
10) otis redding had it penned on that fateful day he flew off
9) that supertramp song of logistics couldn't even add it
8) Lennon tried to back mask it into "I am the Walrus" but it came out "I fondled Paul" in reverse
7) Aretha's take - "h" what you want "y" I might have got it "p"....
wouldn't make the three minute Atlantic hitmaker cutoff
6) Maria Carey was going to tackle it but quickly realized she couldn't do a 4 octave vamp on the word without losing it
hyyy pooo thet het a call a a all a a all a a all woo woo wall all
5) the glimmer twins had it under their thumb with some sympathy and some taste till 'Use all your well-learned politesse
Or I'll lay your soul to waste" replaced
4)"unforgetable" worked better for Nat King Cole
3) Dylan may have slurred the word in subterrainian homesick fashion, who knows
2) Bowie's Rebel Rebel started out "You like me and you got some soul,
you've so transy hypothetical"
1)Billy Joel couldn't start the fire, cause the words be scramble on his decades ramble
gimt
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Oh and....Wormy, what is a bazooki?
Thanks for the Jazzfest color.
User: angel | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Interesting article, Blaise.
"Unnatural attachments to Aja and Countdown to Ecstacy"? Hmmmm.... Interesting way to put that. That does confirm hypothetical, in a way.
User: | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: Strike that. At rapid glance, I thought it was an actual quote. Hey, it's early...
User: Blaise - Honolulu Business News | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: And a few words from Walter Becker:
http://pacific.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2003/04/28/daily60.html
User: steviebtw | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: oh ! i forgot in the fervor there...
greetings Steve V from singapore, good to see you again...
you mean that "uberjam" joint ?
i'm down.
and wormy, thanx as always for true colour shining thru...
User: steviedoor | Month: 4 | Day: 2
Message: point 1) the incarnation is clearly NOT labeled "the doors"(TM) as others have clarified, and no one purchasing tickets is expecting jim morrison... most everyone anyway.
point 2) whether or not "it" is musically good is legally beside the point. people knowingly pay good money to hear butt everyday...
point 3) they ARE being sued by stewart copeland, but for an entirely different reason: breach of contract. i believe densmore and pam morrison are the parties on the trademark misuse thing...
point 4) "imho" is about half right. kinda feast or famine with the doors, for me anyway. i AM disappointed with those of you that don't recognize the stylistic contributions of the musicians in the band. that is uninformed to put it mildly...
User: Beerberian | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: BB downloaders R'nt us .......... so WORLD Wide Web is a bit like WORLD series then ... B*****
Hello.
Unfortunately, the Steely Dan download is only available in the United States at this time. We are working to make this happen at some point and are sorry for the inconvenience that this may cause you.
Thank you,
Warner Bros Records
User: imho | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: The Doors were, hands down, about the most overrated rock act in history. Morrison was a booze-besotted, no-talent gasbag but with enormous sex (and hence, commercial) appeal, something that was not wasted on Manzarek who was able to, at least for a time, successfully market it.
If anything the Doors are the diametric opposite of the Dan: Pleasant to look at but utterly uninteresting as composer/musicians.
But that's just one person's opinion.
User: db | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: Mock T:
"SD confessions - two rock stars, one cab..."
I thought it could be a prize, then i thought not.
It will as you mentioned be the ''outtakes'' from the plush dvd...if it is i shall be dissapointed.
Newsletter...no Euro tour, BB only available in US & ticketmaster only accepting AmEx
Still i get to meet up with mate's at the weekend & get ''mullered''
(trouble & strife permitting)
User: Tomorrow's Girl | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: Just heard Blues Beach on msn. I've got mixed feelings. First, how wonderfully blessed it is to hear new SD!!! BB has some tasty chord progressions and harmonics in the first half. Nice upbeat tempo. Almost a gospel/spiritual backdrop, if you listen carefully... So far, however, I can't sink my teeth into it. It's no AJA.. But I keep reminding myself, I'm sure Donald and Walter didn't intend for BB to be an Aja! It is what it is -- a light-hearted single, good for radio play, just one part of the whole. Here's waiting for 6/10!
User: -decloaking- | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: Apparently there was more to the Densmore piece than I thought. It wasn't an open letter but an article.
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20020708&s=densmore
-cloaking-
User: bona fide t | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: ole - That song you mentioned reminds me of the "Shoop Shoop Song (It's In His Kiss)" with the call and response and all that kissin'. I wonder which came first? Either way, great catch. I'll be in touch.
re. "the Doors of the 21st Century": I saw them about a month and a half ago on Kilborn (still with Stewart Copeland at the time) doing "Break on Through", and *I* wanted to sue them! Ian Cult-dude was presumably trying to "channel" Morrison, but apparently Morrison wasn't broadcasting. It takes a lot more than dark glasses and a sock to fill those leather pants. There was no *threat*, no *danger*. It was much too reverential. And God knows Stewart Copland is a monster drummer, but the Doors were all about chemistry, and without Densmore's unique style they couldn't "break on through" a damp paper towel... I was embarassed *for* them.
Anybody read that open letter from about a year ago that Densmore wrote to an "unnamed" member of the band who's not Krieger ;-), and who's been pressuring the other band members to accept big money to licence the Doors songs for commercials? It was a great read, detailing how back in '67 while Morrison was in Europe, the other band members agreed to let "Light My Fire" be used for a commercial, and when Morrison got back he pitched a fit, saying that it made everything they stood for a joke. So they agreed that all band decisions had to be unanimous from then on. And *that's* why Densmore is suing them for using the band's name without his permission. They should have just called themselves "The Backdoor Men" (nah, maybe to "Village People-esque) or "The Unknown Soldiers" or 'Knights of the Lizard King" or something, and put "plays music of the Doors" on the marquee. That way they could have kept the money themselves instead of giving it to the lawyers.
But hey, they didn't ask me...
Then again, neither did you guys... lol...
-cloaking-
tohnz
User: YGK | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: Core NYC Radio Feature
Here we go, folks: Core NYC will be featured on the Rockin Rome Show, on KRVM 91.9FM, Eugene, Oregon Sunday, May 4. For those out of airwave reach, you can listen over the net at www.krvm.org.
Rome will be featuring our new CD û ôTryinÆ to Sort It All Outö during the show. Don't Miss It!
Remember, it's 5-8pm PST, KRVM 91.9 FM Eugene, Oregon.
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: Pat,
Are you going to the Jones Beach concert?
I might show up at The Gorge, except I hate to fly. Maybe I'll ride my
bike out your way. That would be great, a cross-country bike tour combined
with a Steely Dan concert. That Reno date is looking real appealing to me
too. Anyway we have plenty of time to have our Steely Dan hockey masks
made up before August 22nd right? :)
As far as The Doors concert goes, It's basically a step up from watching
a cover band perform the music being that Manzarek and Krieger are part
of it. Any reason why John Densmore isn't part of this thing?
Steely Dan re-defined music in the 70's, I feel The Doors had an equal
effect on the 60's. They were simply a step above creatively.
User: Moll | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: BB, I can't make it Saturday :-( I expect y'all to have loads of photos of the event. Drink one for me bud. *kisses and hugs* for all my UK mates.
St.Al, besides being the finest looking man in the United States, I'm beginning to think you're one of the nicest as well. *wink and kiss*
Bluz, my glass can still be seen at Kycraft.org....under the name I told you before. Ed says his new web site will be up and running soon, then you can see my work a bit more.
Ed Beatty,it was great seeing you in the Green room. I wrote you a mail...but my PC has been acting screwy. About half the mail I'm sending to my guy isn't getting through so I'm only half sure anyone I write will receive my letters. lol
Floridave, It's always a pleasure to chat with you. If only for a fleeting moment.
Jaz, I'm gonna send out a search party for you soon. Have you joined up with Doctor er I mean...Major Mu?
Wild Bill, be careful on your bike babe.
User: lp | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: oleander - i interpreted the line, and i think it's "she spells it L-U-V" to mean the level of self-contradiciton this young woman has in her relationship with the guy in first person - sorta like the line, "first she's all feel then she cools down" - she's all over the place: part bohemian goth, part cute cheerleader, hasn't defined her place but he's lovin every minute of her ride
User: mock t | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: wormy: the site where you can download BB has a promo pic that says something like - "SD confessions - two rock stars, one cab..." or something like that. I wonder if that's the DVD. If so, it would kinda be like the plush DVD.
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: http://www.michaelmcdonald.com/TourPrintable.htm
User: Dano | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: Guys , A mate was telling me Michael McDonald is touring UK again??Anyone heard when the dates are, i missed him last time around?? Help would be appreciated.
Dano.
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: So Josh -- is that thing yours? And if so, why did Donald sign it?
Bill: It's simple. Wear a gollie mask. Since I'll be sitting on the lawn for the Gorge show I doubt I'll have to wear mine. Besides, it gets in the way of drinking beer and only fairies drink beer from a straw...
StAl
User: Steve V. | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: I am so thrilled that there is new Steely Dan music coming....this has been a mind numbing year with the War etc....also being a resident of Singapore hasn't helped...
had a dream that I was buying some weird Steely Dan bootleg cd....
Saturn will be leaving Gemini on June 1...perhaps the reason for the release date being moved back?
music notes-did anyone hear the latest John Scofield cd...pretty cool, trippy....also anyone into Nicola Conte....Fagen would love it...fake, fake jazz from a Fellini flick
User: StAl | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: Just added a link on the main page to download the single for Blues Beach. Check it out. http://www.banyantrees.net
I suppose if they had John Densmore drumming I'd feel a little better but half the band is missing! 80% if you factor in Morrison's overall contribution. No, seeing the Doors play this time around would be like going to see The Jimi Hendrix Experience without you know who...
StAl
User: Hank Silvers | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message:
Got into the car today for the morning commute, and flipped on WXPN (Philadelphia college station) just in time to hear DF begin the first verse of Blues Beach. No surprise that they're playing it -- years ago, I heard a radio edit of WB's Junkie Girl on 'XPN.
ole: Nice find. Add the Shangri-Las allusion to the Little Eva namecheck in Gothic.
User: wormy | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: special edition cd/dvd
wonder just what the dvd portion entails
videos of the characters in the latest album?
rehearsals for the upcoming tour?
don and walt assaulting pete fogel on yet another couch?
inquiring worms wanna know
Stevie - yes the new wayne is great - same quartet as footprints live
(Brian Blades on drums)
another tasty one is Rachel Z's ode to Wayne "Trio"
blaise is in the house and an Angel does the parody shuffle ;-)
wt
User: Bill | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: DACW,
I know they won't be using pyrotechnics or anything, but flying pucks?
You can prepare yourself for a lot of things in life but flying pucks at
a rock concert is taking things a step beyond don't you think? I went to
see the comedian Gallagher once and while there weren't any flying pucks
there were other hazards to take into account.
Such as smashed watermelons...
I know The Doors minus Jim Morrison are scheduled to play Jones Beach this
summer also. While I really like Robbie Krieger (who never recieved the
credit he was due in my opinion) and Ray Manzarek, they were never able
to reproduce the magic of The Doors without Morrison. Not even back in
the early 70's. I'm not sure they'll be able to do it now either but it
might be nice to see them try.
User: Beerberian | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: Sixth Beatle ????
Purdie was, and still is, one of the most revered drummers of 20th-century pop and soul, having played with such notables as Aretha Franklin, Steely Dan, Gil Scott-Heron, and James Brown, among many, many others. He even famously alleged, back in a 1978 interview with Gig magazine, that he was the uncredited drummer on as many as 21 early Beatles tracks, a dubious (but not wholly unfounded) claim still debated among Fab Four fans.
See you all on Saturday www.dancollective.co.uk
User: Jim# | Month: 4 | Day: 1
Message: Wormy: Yeah, I saw that John Mayer was playing the fest, ought to be a good match for the crowd down there. Plus Widespread Panic on Saturday. I picked up some of their stuff whilst in the bayou and found it to be good :)
Like Oleander, I can't help but think that a Southern leg is forthcoming for the fall. Nobody throws a state fair like Alabama, for goodness sakes.
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