Name: Clas
Yes,
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 23:57:38
Comments:
dr Mu, if Carlton, Omartian, Griffin or whoever, did record Becker/Fagen-songs, it would probably sound like Steely Dan.
Except for Fagens voice.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 23:44:31
Comments:
Hi Banana gringos! Who'll be your next president? You don't know yet?
the Stranger - was Mussolini before or after Nixon?
Hi there Hutch, hi there Midnite Cruiser, where have YOU been?
Gina - ”integrity” is ”integritet” in Swedish.
RubyBABY - yeah, next year we'll record that tune, punkstyle kind of? Hutch on guitar.
dr Mu - tell me more, I am curios, did Bernard Purdie and Chuck Rainey sit in for Mc Cartney and Ringo? No...?
Not My Nancy - I think Chuck Rainey is remembering just as it was. Do you think that Fagen/Becker are saints? To reach those high levels in showbiz you must be a big asshole. And we have seen Steely Dan steeling some music over the years, still they had to sue that rap-group who sampled the ”Black Cow”-groove.
That's a shame.
Lisa G - yeah, ”Fire & Rain” is a great great song. Have you heard Blood Sweat & Tears version? It's outstanding.
Are you a Mac-owner, I'm so sorry for you, how tragic, how did that happen?
Ole Ander - let time show you.
I am beginning to get a hang of this poster printer (Hi-Fi Jet, FJ 40 (upgraded to FJ 42), Roland)I have. I have designed a poster 70x100 centimeters, "Back In The Caves - Steely Dan”. I think it would be fun to have a quiz and the first prize is this poster. Is that fun?
Please say it's fun, I have worked so hard to make a nice poster.
I love you so much uhh uhh hu hu.....
C
Name: dleestanagain
stillstaggerin'outintotheburnofthebraindeaddwn.com
state of nonxtc
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 22:28:32
Comments:
agreed floridaroom man
the Talk City chat is nowhere
IS THERE A BETTER PLACE TO CHAT? Al?
what about AOL?
is it just for losers like me?
shouldn't someone write a
screenplay for
the Becker-Fagen or the Jaco Pastorius story
instead of the other lame cultural historical
caca
these tv monitors are really so
primitive
no wonder the tech stocks are diving
I need some implants and upgrades
I also hear madonna,
formerly known as the whore is getting married!
godspeed to her and her family.
spare my steely dan'd ass
Name: chere
sugabearchere@hotmail.com
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 22:22:55
Comments:
I have no access IN to the chatroom either. Been about 2 months, I tried and ried. Hey Dan, thanks for the shout out! Very cool to have all this warm grounding energy sent my way. Thanks to you all.
New Cd's to absolutely buy and
disect (TRUST me on this) :
Sade- Lover's Rock
Eryka Badu- Mama's Gun
AND...
If you dig these two Cd's, go ahead and get all the Cd's. They are all
fantastic! You just throw them in and let it play to the end.
When I say disect it is best to put on your headphones, and read the lyrics along. Do yourself the meditative benefit of doing this, and discovering some great new music out there.
The Sade is long awaited by her fans and as always, it's all about LOVE. Very smooth and mellow. And of course you just pop it in and let it play. A rare and wonderful treat....Every day is Christmas and every night is New Year's Eve.......
Badu's latest works has a very very cool smoove ol skool vibration. You can hear (or I can hear) Marvin Gaye, Chaka, Curtis Mayfield, Billie Holiday, and WAR influences peppered within this masterpiece. Also Roy Hargrove (Check out his Cd "Crisol Habana") is all over this album adding a special texture and a reflection of her growth as an artist.
Check em out. Any suggestions on how to get IN to the chatroom are greatly appreciated. The problem is there appears NO field for typing my chatter in and then inserting into chatroom by pressing Enter. Please somebody Help :O0
Have a great Friday everyone.... I'll swing in on the weekend. Blessings to you all.-JuJu Chere
Name: DLEESTAN
theinimitableone.com
Location: ectstacy,
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 22:11:00
Comments:
Hi Walt and Don
speaking of assholes
i really liked the creatures in "Naked Lunch"
cool dank soundtrack by Ornette to boot
Huey is paralyzed like the rest of us about this election
I dont miss anyone here,
but love/hate all of you nonetheless
Tommorows Girls will wrap up my
40th birthday present
December 2,
The Making of Aja
The disciple I am, its hard to believe i havent seen it
I'm so dirt poor @ the end of this historical run
Maybe one of you lotto winners can send me home,
lose my number. My wife, Ida, and Lena can
come along for the ride.
The Elton and Beatles specials are
fun,
I love their stuff; kinda catchy
though not my heroes, as is "our" heroes.
Not only are they not my heroes
I don't even own any of their records.
Maybe I'm just a little phobic
I'm just getting excited that Pat Martino, Joey D.,
and Billy Hart
are coming to town!
I've been tuning it up lately: a
new guitar phenomena
What's happening with the new CD? duh*&#$
Black Balloons ain't funny
Name: Altamira
me again
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 21:55:52
Comments:
The Stranger--Now that's one part of the Constitution I don't want to rewrite!
Name: TheStranger
I love this part
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 21:45:33
Comments:
Dear Christian Right,
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Name: TheStranger
So you want to read the Constitution?
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 21:42:00
Comments:
Here's the whole thing. WITH amendments.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.table.html#amendments
You know, this Net can be a nice tool once in a while.
Name: TheStranger
It's so sad
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 21:27:48
Comments:
Asshole Amigo, you're a twisted wretch. I pity you.
Name: Altamira
Whoops!
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 21:19:41
Comments:
I meant "repository of culture."
Name: Altamira
hey yeah, it's me again
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 21:17:44
Comments:
Oleander--Yes, that does sound like Arena Stage. Perhaps it was the Old Vat Room? I've never been there, but what you write about sounds like what I've read about the place. Regarding what you wrote to a-hole, this is a considerate place where people treat one another well. Ironically, I used to be a member of an Episcopal online forum called Anglican which was just nasty as all get out; it almost made me embarassed to be a member of my own denomination--the lovely and charming folks in this forum have a great deal to teach those jerks about treating others with respect. Regarding "Asheville of Virginia," that was Dave's term; I tried to convey that Roanoke doesn't *really* compare with Asheville, it's just similar in that it's a little city in the mountains that is the repository for culture of the surrounding area. Of course Roanoke doesn't hold a candle to Asheville (which was the intended destination for our trip, we just left too late to get there), but it does provide a similar function for its region.
Name: Altamira
same as before
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 20:56:35
Comments:
Asshole amigo--I hear you, dude. I grew up in a horrible church that presented God as some sort of cosmic police officer who was always ready to chastise you for any sort of infraction. I'm eternally grateful that my parents (of course not realizing what it would lead to) sent me to that Episcopal school when I was in third grade--I learned a whole new way to think of God and my life has been better ever since. I know how members of religions can let you down; it's even happened in my own parish (not in the last few years, however, thank God). But being a member of religion isn't weakness; if one really intends to fully live out what the religion requires, it can be quite demanding, yet rewarding also. Truly loving one's neighbor requires effort, but it leads to a kinder, juster, and more humane world. Of course, nonreligious people can be moral and good too; I've met many who are, as well as religious people who are shitheads. But I've been on both sides of the fence; I left my religion and went back because I found the support of the structure and the fellowship helpful and it was easier than being on my own. In my church, I can follow my own beliefs but do so in a supportive atmosphere, and I find that helpful. We all find our own path and I'm sorry you've had bad experiences, but please try to be a bit more open minded about the paths that other people choose. Remember, those narrow-minded, fundamentalist religions (like the one I grew up in) also condemn other people's choices. Best of luck, dude; I like what you write and I hope all goes well for you. Good words about pity, too--you definitely write with the voice of wisdom.
Floridavid--As I wrote to YGK a while back, I can't get the damned thing to work
anymore. If you have any suggestions on how to crack this nut, please let me
know. I miss chatting with you all.
Name: oleander
slowly I turned....
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 20:49:17
Comments:
'''''''' --what, rumblestrip had a baby?!?
"""""""" --what, she had TWINS?!?
Name: oleander
dozing & scrolling
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 20:44:49
Comments:
Gene--Is that Paul Martin or Pole MarTANH? Him I don't know about. So secession was a squeaker? Not quite as close as our fiasco. Jello Biafra ran for Mayor of San Francisco when I lived there. Several years later I found a cool interview with him in "Thrasher" magazine, but I've heard nothing else.
RS--You're musical even when you write about music. Wish I'd been there with you guys!
Hutch--great to hear from you. Let me know when Dennis Chambers will be there--who knows, maybe another Earth Day type odyssey? If you have a chance, go to Boston & check out the guitar exhibit at the Museum of Fine Arts. It's incredible.
Aja--great to see your fan club is still so attentive. Re: JazzFest--It spans TWO weekends--which are you planning to hit?
StevieD--so will you have Chuck Rainey's new one too?
For godsakes, the guy had a bad day or two. He's still a great bassist, and I just loved him on "Making of Aja."
TWM--Or "Mingus Ah Um." Or "Better Get It In Your Soul."
jon--hey man. Sorry I missed you couple weeks ago when I was following the yellow stripe. Thanx for tip on Mingus concert w/ Dolphy & Powell--wow! StevieD, got that one?
Gina--yes, I used to love to watch Billy Cobham drum because he had incredible arms. Saw him w/ Mahavishnu once in Washington on a small, revolving stage (Arena Stage, Alta?) & got to watch front & back. Yowie.
NMN--dig the review. I've heard the YGK play, and he deserves a way better venue.
wormtom--omigod. Way to rise to the occasion. Too good.
Blaise--nah, I give no credibility to any of that crap. It was just so egregious.
MC--So sorry to hear about your friend.
RB--"I don't believe for a nano-second that *one* of the candidates is mixed up about Constitutional Law. I firmly believe he doesn't give a rat's you-know-what." I fully agree with your comment about Bush!
ahole--must be some pretty heinous experiences if you confuse pity with "love of one's neighbor," conviviality, altruism, and the occasional mutual respect that surfaces here.
Clas--So noted, and a very apt use of quotation marks. Or: "As they say, 'Once bitten, twice shy.'" Trust is a slow, hard thing to rebuild. Gimme some time.
Alta--The Asheville of Virginia, eh? What next?
Name: Lisa G
Getting old
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 20:43:33
Comments:
T minus 5 days till I'm the big 3-0. Lately, I've been depressed from this thought of getting older, but I finally got my act together and joined the human race. And so I say hello to all!
A few quickies--
For Clas-"""""""""""""""""""""""""" (No fancy quotes--I'm a MacUser.)
Gina, Stevie and LP-My divine brother Stevie sent me the finest (early) birthday present I've gotten in a long, long, long time: The Pat Metheny Song(sic)book. I'm in heaven. I couldn't put it down for the first 3 hours after I opened the package yesterday. After reading all your posts regarding Pat's glorious gifts, I felt the synchronicity that Gina always talks about here.
Stevie-Mike Stern is a genius. I would DIE if he hooked up with Fagen and Becker. Caught him way back when with the Brecker Brothers on tour. It was one of the first moments in my musician-life when I truly appreciated being alive--magical. Speaking of Gods of the guitar, came home tonight and my husband had dinner going while some divine Villa-Lobos from the gifted Brazilian master, Manuel Barrueco was spinning in the CD player. The end of a perfect day. He is highly recommended.
Clas (again)-A band I was in back in '92 used to cover Fire and Rain. I still love that song.
Blaise-I'm a closet fan of The Guess Who. I guess I didn't know what I was heading for.
Chere-I think I made a mistake--much apologies. I thought the wedding on the 24th was yours. Best wishes to your sister, and thanks for the sea breezes. I truly was moved visualizing the experience described in your post.
Aus-The only Fripp I own is a vinyl copy of "I Advanced Masked" with Andy Summers (die-hard Police fan, here). I bought it when I was in my mid-teens. I didn't really "get it" back then. Perhaps I should revisit the record?
Roy.Scam-glad you hooked up with Hutch. I have also found "Josie" to be quite intriguing, though also quite simple. Many of those cool passing chords are just subs within a basic framework of ii dim V i. Break the progression down to a skeleton and it makes perfect sense. (Sorry, FZ.) I believe z,x and I had this "discussion" a few months ago.
Gina-I had the pleasure of both meeting Ms. Sheila Jordan and sending her tapes of mine. She's a real singer's singer and just a doll! She gave me great advice and encouragement. I wanted to study with her, but I lived way too far from NYC to commute at the time. Haven't heard from her in about 6 years!
An official hello and welcome to all newbies! It's been a pleasure reading the posts of our friends across the pond. Welcome TWM (sisteral). I LOVE all the Scottish banter, boys.
ds(tm), Lady RS, LP, MizD, Ole, Aja, et al, I've missed you ladies!
Floridavid you are a cutie-pie and funny to boot. Where can I get a bumper sticker?
~-you and your pair uh dees rule.
Cara Mia-loved the pics and so sorry I missed you all at LBB. I feel like I've been there before. Come to think of it, I think I did a show there a few years back with my a capella group. It was one of those "five million groups performing for 'label' executives" showcases. (The punctuation is solely for the enjoyment of Clas, who incidentally ignores me even though I continue to tease him.)
And brother YGK-I've GOT to get out to see you. I will, I promise. Let me know if you've got any weekend gigs coming up. (Weeknights are murder for me.)
Now where is my dear, dear Howard these days?
Bubbling over,
Lisa
12/5/70
Name:
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 20:14:57
Comments:
Gina, so you "never liked Miles Davis" ??????????????
your credentials for judging or in any way representing a legitimate opinion regarding Steely Dan or any other serious jazz/ jazz influenced music is now revoked.
( )
Name:
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 20:11:03
Comments:
Asshole, your full of shit
( )
Name: asshole amigo
back
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 19:55:21
Comments:
Blaise: No, you shouldn't feel bad. Please, feel great!
Uhm,
My experiences give me a right to a general mistrust of the so-called 'selfless' drives, of the whole 'love of one's neighbor' which is always ready with deeds and advice.
It counts with me as weakness, as a special case of the incapacity to withstand stimuli -- it is only among decadents that pity is called a virtue.
My reproach against those who practise pity is that shame, reverence, a delicate feeling for distance easily eludes them, that pity instantly smells of mob and is so like BAD MANNERS as to be mistaken for them -- that the hands of pity can under certain circumstances [undoubtedly, not these] intrude downright destructively into a great destiny, into a solitariness where wounds are nursed, into a privilege for great guilt. I count the overcoming of pity among the noble virtues.
Name: Floridavid
dmoore113@aol.com
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 19:47:14
Comments:
Just wanted to say Hey to Hutch.
why is it that I never see anyone in the Chat? I don't get much of a sense of anyone from zingy oneliners.Just asking.
Name: Altamira
same as before
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 19:46:25
Comments:
Whoops, I meant "Real Presence of Christ." It's only one word off, but it's an important doctrinal term and I wanted to get it right.
Name: Altamira
same as before
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 19:43:28
Comments:
Ruby--My friend Dave, a real political junkie, and I have had many conversations about the constitution. Our collective decision, arrived at from opposite political positions, is that the constitution is outdated and needs to be rewritten; we've even talked about the best way to go about rewriting it. The federal government has been operating in violation of the constitution since Franklin Roosevelt was president, and operating the government in a manner contrary to the constitution seems to work quite well, which suggests that following the constitution might not provide the sort of governmental structure and operating system that we need these days. The document was written over 200 years ago for a completely different way of life; in particular, a world where communication was poor and it was not possible to run the country on a truly national basis, so investing most of the power with the states made sense. Things are different now, and giving more power to the federal government and less to the states might make a great deal of sense.
Dr. Mu--You're welcome; I do love my home town.
Asshole Numero Uno--You are quite right in your observation about Christian denominations. The Roman Catholics and Lutherans, and the Episcopalians too, are quite similar. On the other hand, the Baptists (in their many varieties), the Assemblies of God, and other evangelical denominations follow a different path. The afore-mentioned denominations place a strong emphasis on sacraments and most members believe in the presence of Christ in the Eucharist (Communion); they also have formal worship services (i.e, liturgy) where the prayers are read from a book. The clergy, as well as other folks, like acolytes (I'm an acolyte at my parish), wear vestments. The latter-mentioned denominations place a stronger emphasis on the Bible and view Communion as a memorial. The worship services are loosely structured, and prayers tend to be extemporaneous. Usually only the choir is vested, and they wear academic robes rather than cassock and cotta (or surplice).
Name: Gina
Borstlap/Haslip Liveline
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 18:39:12
Comments:
the song Liveline is with me while I'm spending my night, it's 2.19 AM here. Couldn't get my sleep and after sending our host St. Al a reply regarding the Banyan T-shirts, I came rushing over!
Thank you Not My Nancy, I like reading about music and the live events are on top on my list, the eye of the beholder view is as important, you know. Hm. Why do you post not as frequent, like some of us do in multiple persona even, haha! All we have is this, reading about stuff that some or others experience for real, you passed that vibe along here while writing about it, so we can see for ourselves, in a way. Should do more often, what it is you see in the supermarket even, haha. There's always a story. Merci for this one!
HUTCH! The door has always been
yours, haha. Am standing in line here to do the welcome back thing and for all
newbies, Hutch has this nice way of welcoming the new ones when you're trying to
find your way among the die hards and busy GB-folk who don't necessarily forget
about good manners, haha, SWOON, Aja, had to look that word up in my dictionary,
real real swirly that swoon of yours LOL (back of your hand against your
forehead, right?, head a little bent backwards)
yes, we're all minding all kinds of GB-business here, and Hutch kept track of
the almost lost. Hm. He was entitled to have this break and it's been a good
one, I believe. In your absence, Hutch, we kind of had the door fixed, it has a
mind of its own and does its own closing & opening whenever we yell for it.
Or not. Thank you Roy Scam, you Hutched first, right?
The concert was amazing. In a small theatre, the audience sat around tables, the band real close.
Jimmy Haslip, bass/Michiel
Borstlap, Fender Rhodes, Korg Triton/Eric Vloeimans, trumpet/Jeroen de Rijk,
percussion/Hans Eijkenaar, drums. Michiel won the Thelonius Monk/BMI Composers
Award in 1996. Both Jimmy (Yellowjackets) and Jeroen played with Gino Vanelli,
Eric played with Peter Erskine -saw him mentioned earlier-Hans, sessionmusician,
was drummer with Dilana Smith and Robby Valentine. And they all have lots of
other things to do according to the liner notes!
Their technician, Paul Pouwer should also be mentioned here!
Crucial, the live CD is vibrant!
They played the Blues/Marcus Miller, Footprints/Wayne Shorter and songs they
wrote together. The first ten minutes I wanted to get out, sitting up close was
too much, had to get used to it and I was still kind of tired. It felt heavy,
imploding fusion! It was like they had to find their way in that theatre, so I
kind of grew into the music, wasn't the only one I found out later. What can I
say? Jimmy Haslip is a joy to look at, his whole body and face is into the
music, he sings his bassline, like scatting it. Octaved! Both the drummer and
percussionist were very sexy wearing singlets, one wore black and the other
white. Yes guys, we gals also want something hubba hubba to look at. And it's
muscle they show, right, playing their drums and timbales and congas LOL. In
this case I'm safe to say the size of their muscles proves their skills. Never
noticed things like that before, but now I have I'll pay real good attention
next time!
I'm usually not too thrilled about trumpet, never really felt anything special
for Miles Davis. This sounded warmer, like it was a trumpet/trombone, not such a
shrieky noise. Should say, he has a way with it. Footprints was fierce!
The way they interacted, tension, chemistry was present. The way they studied
eachother during solo's. Real concentrated, focussed. Sighs even, laughter,
grins. Both band and audience.
There was this break in between sets. The break took a while longer, for some of
the band were into nice talks with folks. And they came back for an encore,
ofcourse.
Too bad I was just warmed up and in for a whole lot more!
They will return to this southern region within two weeks, so maybe ...
I bought the CD, had a brief talk with Michiel when he signed the CD. Really
interested in how I experienced the music,-being shellshocked the first minutes-
and a big big smile when I said I saw Jimmy Haslip in Rotterdam play at the
Steely Dan concert.
I just love these kind of musicians. No attitude, they want to be in touch with
their audience. It's give and be given this way.
Grand!
It's 3.30, the CD plays second time around.
For info, http://www.michielborstlap.com
http://www.vloeimans.demon.nl
http://www.jeroenderijk.com
Oof. Banyan goodnight night,
Gina
Name: ruby baby
or, if you are Blaise, rudy
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 18:37:48
Comments:
DrMu: thank you for the Constitution web addy and the actual wording.
I don't believe for a nano-second that *one* of the candidates is mixed up about Constitutional Law. I firmly believe he doesn't give a rat's you-know-what.
Blaise: No, you shouldn't feel bad. Please, feel great!
I thought you already felt *bad* 'cause when you brought up good old Chuck R, only one person responded, but now when someone else starts that thread there's a gazillion responses.
My husband gets ideas for inventions, then in 6 months the dang thing is out on the market. He used to get perturbed, but now he just rolls with it. Thank God.
rbd
Name: DrMu
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 17:09:10
Comments:
Altamira: Thanks for your insight. I never blame anyone for defending their own turf.
Enjoying the par-oh-dees. Even I'm sick of all of this.
There seems to be confusion among the candidates (especially one) and the media concerning the role of the state legislative vs. judicial branches in selecting the electoral college which is spelled out in The Constitution. For the whole document visit the site below if you are interested:
http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html
Here's the excerpt about Presidential elections from the US Constitution:
"Article. II.
Section. 1.
Clause 1: The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows
Clause 2: **Each State** shall appoint, **in such Manner as the *Legislature* thereof may direct**, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
Clause 3: The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves (*Prez and VP can't be from the same state*). And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. (*this was ammended later due to Aaron Burr's near coup as a VP candidate in 1800*) But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President. (See Note 8)
Clause 4: The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States."
Name: jon
away from his yellow stripe
Location: at the present,
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 16:53:45
Comments:
To Mingus neophyte:
Anything with him and his so-called "Jazz Workshop" is a good bet, but I'd start off with "Immortal Concerts: Jazz Festival, Antibes, July 13, 1960," because you get Eric Dolphy and Bud Powell as well as the big guy.
Name: Jive Miguel
bogata
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 16:07:20
Comments:
twm - Great St. Andrew's Day? The Bodascious Cowboys have no plans for Glasgow/Stirling but you should come to Ayr and give us a crit.
Dano - Great list of Caledonian players for the National Saint although I would have to squeeze the Blue Nile in somewhere.
Scratcherbaas!
Name: thirdworldman
sun mountain
Location: Glasgow,
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 14:42:34
Comments:
Hello one and all
Chips, the answer to your question
is a simple one; drink copious amounts of alcohol. Nothing new there then for
Scots?
Unfortunately its not a good idea when you've got work the next day, but, hey,
what the fuck!
Clas, Aye right! I am going to test my one-fingered typing skills just to get some fancy quotation marks - not.
I find the idea of Dan sounding like a punk band quite amusing. I know I was talking about the pogo last 'eve, but Pogoing to 'Stone Piano' would sure be something!
Thanks to lp for that nice wee tale. One thing though - are you trying to depress us all? Only joking, and thanks again.
I am trying to get into Charles Mingus. and am looking for a good album to start with - any recommendations would be appreciated.
Peace
Al
Name: Asshole Numero Uno
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 14:30:08
Comments:
oh stop raggin' already about grace and decorum and so much other bullshit! jesus christ! unreconstucted christians and assorted other weaklinks... you worry too much about form and not enough about substance... catholics , lutherans what the fuck!? theyre all the same tho... it's beyond religion, granted... love to see folks reactions to things like that.. like a bunch of gossipmongers....petty but enlightening...artists should be assholes...its the assholes for assholes sake you should bitch about ..RANK: assholes with a cause, number one; assholes with a craft, number two; assholes with a personality disorder,number three; assholes for assholes sake, number four.more to cum.
Name: Not My Nancy
in front of Malcolm & everybody
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 14:14:48
Comments:
Gina-- a little awkward to comment in this forum on one of our own, but here's what I would say about Tycoon Dog.
Pretty straight ahead rock-and-roll instrumentation-drum, bass, guitar, keys-- though YGK throws in some nifty keyboard patches (that Hammond b3 melts me everytime). Guitarist (Scott?) handles most lead vocals, with everyone apparently backing vocals and the bass player and YGK both handling some leads.
All original material, I think, generally blues-based but far from formulaic either harmonically or structurally. The m.o. seemed to be to build a song around a fairly structured pop hooks, create some jazz-like harmonic and rhythmic interest (YGK on keys especially)amid the structured part, then go off and improvise your way to a good idea and milk it a little.
I heard Dan--some nicely articulated lead guitar from Scott, a fine bag of modal and rhythmic tricks from YGK. I heard some Dead. I heard some Little Feat. A couple of moments made me think of Spin Doctors (though T-Dog seemed more about music and Spin Doctors seemed more about getting chicks).
As Altamira and YGK commented, the sound was pretty lousy. The scene, a trade show for bartenders, was a weird, low-energy carnival, trying to simulate a bar scene in a cavernous exhibit filled with flourescent light. Leggy waitress/trade show models offering booze exhibitors' flagship drinks to drunken refugees from Mean Streets. No place to take the kids.
There. Have I completely insulted anyone?
Thanks for the Rainey link, Blaise. Yeah, he's bitter. Time does strange things to our memories. Sometimes we remember the way it was, then sometimes we remember the way we re-invented it. I go back about the Aja video, and I can't help thinking that he's a man with plenty of personal and musical grace. He just didn't show very much of it to the reporter in Dallas.
Name: Midnite Cruiser
http://listen.to/Jim
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 14:13:04
Comments:
Hutch....great to see you back man!!! Sounds like you're into good things there. Hope to catch up with you sometime in the not too distant future!
attention Peter Erskine fans: participate in a live chat tonight from 8pm 'til 9pm Eastern Time at:
http://www.marsmusic.com/store/yamahamotion/yamaha_chat_sched.jhtml?gen19=chat#peter
RIP Ron Belcher....good friend and co-worker who was killed in an automobile accident Monday night on the way to work. He was laid to rest this afternoon at 3pm. He leaves a wife and thirteen year old daughter. See you in Rock'n'Roll Heaven my friend, don't forget your guitar.
Name: Emily Postupheraz
the way in
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 14:11:01
Comments:
and hard up too? sheesh.. y' know i'll be down in OB this weekend, i suspect the beauette might be accommodating of you... i dunno, i really WOULD have to go back and look at those pics of you at irvine meadows -- now I realize: YOU"RE the one who wanted to see my pic... chivalry, yeah BAYBEEEEE!
Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 14:10:50
Comments:
Hutch--Welcome back! It's delightful to see you here again. It sounds like you have some good things going on right now; I wish you all the best.
lp--I really like Miss Manners; I think she gives wise, common-sense advice that covers a huge variety of circumstances. But I haven't read Emily Post yet; perhaps I would like her even more.
Name: chips
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 13:46:55
Comments:
and what do you do on St Andrews Day anyway?
Name: wormy
read it in the sunday papers
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 13:46:24
Comments:
hey Hutch is back gracing the place, and Beast Without as
well
welcome back
Hutch - best of luck with the musical endeavors and you forgot to mention Joe Jacksons new Night and Day II album -
not quite up to the original but it's a good work. He's just kicked off a tour as well, in fact he'll be at the Howling Wolf in New Orleans sunday night. Worms in the house - I'll wear my Dan 2k black polo if anyone else is making this one, Zeke, Vicky?
Name: Aja
where are my manners?
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 13:24:06
Comments:
dano, twm-Good St. Andrews Day to you both! I was looking for something Scottish for the day and found shortbread and tea. It's a little warm over here for tartans.
Aja
Name: lp
i prefer emily post - miss manners has a rod jammed up her butt
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 13:15:12
Comments:
that was not my miss manners comment btw, but my threat remains, mr anonymous poster with the foul mouth......
does anyone want to talk about my SD musician comment, realizing its naivete and simplicity compared to the musicians that post here?
otherwise, see you tomorrow -
Name:
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 13:13:45
Comments:
Uh huh!
Name:
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 13:11:16
Comments:
i do!
Name: Miss Manners
Coitus Kisstuchus
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 13:10:25
Comments:
He or she is right. Chivalry = asskissing for poontang
Name:
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 12:55:30
Comments:
but who gives a fuck?
Name:
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 12:52:02
Comments:
Just remember, Palm Bch Cty and Miami/Dade is largely populated by retired New Yorkers and Midwesterners.
Hmmm, I wonder what conclusions we should draw from that?
( )
Name:
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 12:37:06
Comments:
yes, and who gives a fuck?
Name:
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 12:33:21
Comments:
now stop it - or else i will come back with obscure celebrity one-liners, and i mean it!
Name:
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 12:32:12
Comments:
and thus you prove her point
Name:
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 12:29:21
Comments:
take note of what? your approbation? who gives a fuck?
Name: Aja
all swirly!
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 12:07:18
Comments:
Well now! Is that all I had to say to get you back here, Hutch? ;-) I can't tell you how wonderful it was to see your handle again. No, I haven't heard Joe Jackson't new one but the buzz has been good, so thanks for the tip! Hope things are going well for the band, and I'll keep my fingers crossed that all of you will get picked up by a label.
That parody to "Two Against Nature" was a stroke of genius, so much so that it blew your cover ;-) Keep 'em coming, and I'll do whatever I have to to keep you here.
lp-thanks for the story, and I feel privileged to be on that massive list!
Some of you already know this, but Carolyn Leonhart has a *guestbook* on her website. Didn't someone warn the poor girl about us? Once we move in on a guestbook, we don't leave!
Thanks again for bringing your wonderful chivalry to the GB, Hutch. We need more VA gentlemen here (take note, all spewers of vitriol).
Banyan Tree Swoon,
Aja
Name: Blaise
just dropping by
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 11:38:47
Comments:
There is an interesting part of the chuckrainey.com site and it's called "the bass manual". The current article is about James Jameson, one of his major influences, but the page promises an article about Steely Dan soon. I can't wait to read it since he writes it himself. He's not bad at it either. He offers a fitting tribute. The Dan pieces should be insightful.
rudy - Those are nice sentiments but, tell me, did I miss an opportunity to cash in on something? Somebody beat me to it? Should I feel bad? What exactly are you refering to? You got me all confused now.
Beast without x - I too have heard of the new ELO CD coming up. That should be interesting knowing Lynne's songwriting skills as proven in the past. There should be a lot of interesting cameo appearances on there alongside Rosie Vela since he's "connected" in the biz.
There's always something to look forward to. That's right, rudy, think positive.
DrMu - I couldn't have said it better.
Name: Hutch
fandistrict.bohemian.com
Location: Richmond, VA
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 11:26:05
Comments:
Hello, all!
Thanks so much for the kind words
Roy & Aja! I've been away for a little while attending to business musical
and otherwise. I'm basically trying my damndest (is that a word, Roy?) to keep
the band's head above water in this incredibly conservative town.
The bar scene here is a whole depressing story that I could write paragraphs on.
I won't bore you with it.
On the bright side, I'm involved in a side project with a young lady named Des
Hayes who recently signed a contract with Elliot Scheiner (yes, *the* Elliot
Scheiner) to record a three song demo, with Scheiner producing, to be shopped to
labels. She and I are putting together a project with our old drummer (Des and
Jim and I were in a group together in the mid Eighties). It may involve the
vocalist from Jim's band as well which would make us a band with not one but two
great female vocalists! Of course, if Des is picked up by a record label there's
no guarantee the rest of us would be asked to be involved. Depends really on how
tight the band is. Right? Right.
Aja - Have you got the Joe Jackson "Summer in the City" cd? I heard it at a friend's place the other night. Great album. Graham Maby's bass playing is worth the price of the album alone. I saw Joe years ago at The Mosque Theatre in Richmond with Graham Maby on bass. He is quite the driving force. One of those busy but right-in-the-pocket players of English origin. Bruce Thomas from Elvis Costello's Attractions is another great example.
Roy - My meager attempt at Josie came with a good bit of sweat and determination behind the scenes before it was ever even considered for public presentation! Thanks for the compliment bro! It really is a fun song to play. I love playing rhythm guitar as much as lead soloing and Josie is a blast to play rhythm on . . . all those little passing chords. It's a real education for me since I primarily come from a Blues and Rock background. Playing those jazz voicings is very cool for me. Of course the true fact of the matter is that I learned it all from our tablature guru Howard Wright.
http://www.ph.ed.ac.uk/~haw/music/tabfiles.html
Simply the best chord charts you'll find for SD and lots of other artists.
I'm now working in a musical instrument store here in Richmond selling Tom Anderson and Paul Reed Smith guitars among other things. We periodically have clinics by well known people who come to town. The owner of the store is a drummer so we tend to have a lot of drum clinics. We had Dennis Chambers a few years ago right after he did the SD tour and we're scheduled to have him back after the first of the year. About two weeks ago we had Chester Thompson and Zoro. And we're pretty sure we'll be having Al Dimeola after the first of the year as well. Believe me . . . if you're anywhere near Richmond when Dennis Chambers is here go see him. He did a fifty minute drum solo that was absolutely remarkable. (I know, Clas . . . don't even say it!) Anyway, I didn't find it boring in the least!
Hi to Alta, fezo, Hank, Ole, Midnite and Opti, YGK and all the old and new GBers!
And a Banyan Tree bow (and kiss of the hand) to the always charming Gina!
Hutch
Name: luckless pedestrian
soapbox dusted off
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 11:07:48
Comments:
just to let you know:
that tear-jerker was brought to you today by Green Earring (hi dear, yes, that
one did hit me hard, you succeeded)
i thought the SD "sound" was under the hyper-strict auspice of walt and don and the accompanying musicians just stepped in line (no free-wheeling allowed on the solo's, isn't that right?) - i mean those guys are perfectionists, and it pays off very well for the listener, so this is not necessarily a criticism (i wish more bands paid attention to this) - i think that's one of the reasons (bumpus excluded, he's an anomoly) they like their studio musicians young and talented (prodigy-like), that is, so they can be trained (wouldn't any of us be so lucky) - most of which then develop their own style and move out on their own - that's why larry carlton et al has not produced a SD-like album, the answer is they wouldn't - i mean, how old was larry, lee and others when they first played with SD, fresh out of music school maybe? are any of us the same as we were before?
Name: ruby baby
a future yellow shirt kid
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 10:00:31
Comments:
Clas: What a fun song! I'm singing it, baby!
Let's call it "Attjo,
Attchoo, Was It Good For You?"
Maybe we can sing together, but we must try hard not to sound like Ella &
Luis, The Dutchess & Satchmo, The Queen of Scat &... (you get the
picture,) or they'll make us call the whole thing off.
Blaize: Gina's so eloquent description of unfortuitous synchronicity of ideas is so true. Here's what I've noticed as well - some guys are more prone to that happening than others. My guess is that you're one of those guys. It can make you feel downright invisible!
Think positively. One of these days it will be you that cashes in, instead of the other guy. Patience!
Altamira: I know how it feels to have your place of residence dissed. I lived in Fresno for 9 years! But it bothered me not, since I knew they were right! We did the Dance of Joy when we finally moved away. Remember Balkie & Cousin Larry Appleton?
rb
Name: Gina
Not saving for a Rainey day
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 09:24:08
Comments:
obviously, haha.
Floridavid, you show great courage maintaining that handle in times like these, haha. It might just make a difference, it does around here, I guess.
Off for some Haslip/Borstlap
fusion.
Maybe afterwards,
Gina
Name: DrMu
Bernard Purdie and Chuck Rainey WERE the Beatles
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 08:45:22
Comments:
Floridavid: that was funny
Blaise: Rainey was awesome but yeah, another bitter musician's whining. He's dissing Aretha, Quincy Jones, etc. I'm not a great Q fan, but he was playing some pretty fair jazz BEFORE Rainey ever played with King Curtis.
Aja recorded in 3 years?? Royal Scam was released only a year before.
Gary Katz has stated that W&D came into the studio with often completed charts. Katz said he was more of a facilitator than a knob guy.
Did they sound like a punk band before Rainey arrived? Yeah, that organ solo on Turn That Heartbeat... was pure Sex Pistols!
Have Porcaro, Omartian, Griffin, Carlton ever made an album that sounds like Steely Dan?
How come TvN sounds quite a bit like Gaucho morphed thorugh the 90s solo efforts although none of the seesion folks overlap and Katz is kaput?
Rainey was probably mouthing off because he was relegated to playing with the SD cover Naked Lunch (or something like that) in Texas while the '96 tour proceeded...
Name: Beast w/o A President
petern@us.ibm.com
Location: Port Jeff, NY
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 08:38:48
Comments:
From the Where Are They Now File.... someone recently posted on the whereabouts of Rosie Vela... the singer who first reunited our heroes Don and Walt on her album back in 1986.
Well, now she's turned up in an unlikely place... singing on a new album of songs from the Electric Light Orchestra (that's with Jeff Lynne, folks) due to hit stores in April 2001. For more info, go to:
http://www.ftmusic.com/fbweb/ftm_flashback_zoom.html
Name: Floridavid
2cents@worth
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 07:45:44
Comments:
Hello Everyone- First the Bad news-November 30, 1999
Jazz guitarist Charlie Byrd dies of cancer. He is 74. Byrd was instrumental in
introducing Latin sounds, particularly the samba and bossa nova, to American
audiences in the '60s.
Now the Good news- a little humor here-Florida Bumper Stickers
FLORIDA: If you think we can't
vote, wait till you see us drive.
>
>FLORIDA: Home of electile dysfunction.
>
>FLORIDA: We count more than you do.
>
>FLORIDA: If you don't like the way we count then take I-95 and visit
>one of the other 56 states.
>
>FLORIDA: We've been Gored by the bull of politics and we're Bushed.
>
>FLORIDA: Relax, Retire, ReVote.
>
>FLORIDA: Viagra voters do it again!
>
>FLORIDA: What comes after 17,311?
>
>FLORIDA: Where your vote counts and counts and counts.
>
>FLORIDA: This is what you get for taking Elian away from us.
>
>FLORIDA: We don't just cheat in football.
>
>FLORIDA: We're number one! Wait! Recount!
>
>Palm Beach County: So nice, we let you vote twice.
>
>Palm Beach County: We put the "duh" in Florida.
>
>Sign on I-95 : Florida this way, no that way,5 miles, wait 10 miles.
Name: Altamira
thomasal@erols.com
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 07:37:50
Comments:
Ruby--Thanks for your kind and gracious note. That was really sweet of you. And thanks for your offer of the Kwanzaa stamps.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 06:57:46
Comments:
The post posted Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 04:47:34 was not me.
Blaise - aha, that was YOU! Well I guessed if you were related because you had the same manners. Had nothing to do with your last name.
Clas, Rosmarie's butler
Name: Blaise
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 06:32:06
Comments:
I admire Rainey's bass playing very much. Who doesn't? On the other hand, maybe his vocal cords should be removed. That's a joke, btw.
Lp thought it was me bashing her style again yesterday. But it wasn't. Just thought I'd make that clear. I understand it was a confusing day and you were attempting to make sense and all that...
later
Name: wormy
Rainey season
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 06:27:47
Comments:
that Rainey interview was in 96
a year when the Dan had taken the show out on the road and Chuck wasn't along
for the ride.
Sounded like Chuck was dishing Don a little because he felt others contributions were not getting their due exposure. Wonder if the light shed from the Making of Aja video has softened Chuck's view.
Don and Walt have certainly been more open than others who use studio ace musicians to their own ends and their inherent perfectionism could certainly chap a few studio aces asses
wormy
Name: Gina
Last Rainey call (on a sunny day btw)
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 06:19:13
Comments:
My father likes country music. I had once bought this
Winona Judd CD. And knew he would like the music. He refused to listen to her,
for he had once read a story about Winona having this small dog barking all the
time. It annoyed her and she had the dog's vocal cords removed or something. My
father resented that a lot. No Winona Judd in his house!
What happens is that he hears a song on the radio he likes, when he found out it
was her, haha, the song was no good anymore!
What if you listen to Chuck Rainey without prejudice or a blank mind about
reading that specific article, would you then enjoy his music? And what if his
music's that good, it can give you joy, deny yourself that because of an
article?
Hm. No life & death matter, really, maybe one of principle and that should
be respected then.
But I can't have anyone badmouth Steely Dan either, happened yesterday, same discussion about knowledge/facts and liking music from the gut.
Out of here,
G
Name: lp
saving the watersheds
Location: wh poisened, the waterhole?
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 06:14:36
Comments:
adding to gina, may i add a non-celebrity insight -
besides: don't we all sometimes get along around here and then other times not - we deal and move on, come back, in/out all about, etc.
chuck rainey likely has a hot temper like a few people around here - and it's really okay
if i worried in my profession about every little thing negative said about me, i wouldn't have lasted the 8 years i have in this public servancy mode, it's the same in other industries as well where your butt's out there every day waiting to be kicked - that's likely why i am super-sensitive here, i suppose
sniff*****
chuck rainey is awesome, btw
see ya
Name: Blaise
again, for real
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 06:12:29
Comments:
chips - Actually, you're right, it's boo hoo hoo.
Gina - What bugs me about it is that it looks like an attempt to undermine the importance of Fagen in the whole process. Then he has to explain the Nightfly... well, it was the same bunch of players, right? Of course, they probably don't hold a grudge as long as I do.
Name: Gina
having biscuits as well
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 06:05:24
Comments:
and still thinking about this RaineyQ.
What bugs you, Blaise, correct me
if I'm wrong, is the fact that Steely Dan Fans take Chuck Rainey in like he's a
hero as well, and you feel a bit taken because of what he said about DF and WB
earlier.
Don't we all make mistakes, errors when we're younger, less experienced etc?
Shouldn't we be able to forgive, forget maybe?
I had a similar discussion about
knowledge and sheer sense.
If you didn't know these facts about Chuck Rainey, you wouldn't be so sceptic,
right?
Nice biscuit btw.
G
Name: chips
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 06:04:36
Comments:
boo hoo?
Name: Blaise
overexposed already this morning?
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 05:57:13
Comments:
Wormy - It's that "he ain't it" part that's a little harsh, no? Maybe, I'm too sensitive, that's all. boo hoo You don't knockDonald! You can bash Walter.
Name: Gina
let it wait
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 05:55:15
Comments:
the tea.
thanks Worm, for adding some to the Rainey Q.
It's often this thin line between
what's more significant, one that pops the ideas, one that has the skills in
turning ideas into something more concrete etc. etc.
It's a chain, at least I believe it is. When one feels something isn't fair,
well, life ain't always fair, right? Just try to find your own corner in the
blue sky then.
So many things are universal. Even now, maybe you come up with an idea and many
miles away from you another individual has the same thing whirling around
his/her brain. Call it synchronicity, sharing a vortex, magic, whatever. Stuff
like that happens in the world, significant as well as insignificant, it all
depends on how much value you derive, being a plummer, a musician.
And what would Shakespeare's Hamlet be if suddenly on stage 6 men would rise and say they were all Hamlet?
Hm. Think now's the right time to
have that green tea.
G
Name: Blaise
for real
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 05:50:23
Comments:
Yes but a few months back, you were the only who cared, it seems.
Name: Gina
Awake
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 05:42:13
Comments:
as in confused because of it being 1430 and I just woke
up.
yes blaise, that was me earlier, having a bit of gaslighting innocent fun for a
few secs.
You came up with that Chuck Rainey stuff a few months ago, it really seems to
bug you, right? Do you consider it unfair, or lack of professional courtesy or
what?
Integrity should be more than just a word in yes, even your swedish dictionary
Clas, what is, btw, the swedish word for
I N T E G R I T Y
off for some green tea.
maybe soon. or later,
Gina
Name: breck girl wormboy
~
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 05:41:39
Comments:
hey Blaise
not so nice to know you have a few impersonators around here
it's Breck commercial time
thanks for the Rainey post
the article also goes into Chuck's touring with the Beatles entourage and Aretha with Purdy as failing bandleader, a nice read
Sounds like Chuck wanted to see them share the credits around a little more generously but he did ad in Don's defense -
But then Rainey concedes that
Fagen's solo Nightfly album does
sound pretty much on a par with Steely Dan. "It had the same
producer and family of musicians. Becker and Fagen had a talent
for voicing things in ways you never heard it before."
it's a shame Chuck's underemployed, and you think there would be enough glory to spread it all around. He seemed rather humble and gracious in the Making of Aja video, so maybe his relationship with Don and Walt has improved since this earlier article.
As for Don and Walt getting all the glory, what session man wouldn't love to be asked to come lay down some tracks even if they may be "one of many" playing the gig. Why? Because they get the priviledge of working with a demanding crew on very challenging and interesting work.
Name: Blaise
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 05:37:27
Comments:
okay, I'll admit I'm not who I say I am.
But that wasn't you either, Gina.
You're to tired to swirl today.
I can tell.
Gaslighting. Funny?
Name: Blaise
Is that a record?
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 05:30:42
Comments:
I posted at 4:28:28 and again at 4:29:02. I'm starting to amaze myself here. Someone's toying with me. Gaslighting me. It's funny.
Name: Gina
fooling around
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 05:18:37
Comments:
Don't start that again, you.
Swirl
Gina
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 04:47:34
Comments:
me spooky?
want to know how I know your name?
me too.
but don't disturb me, I'm composing something very big now!
Name: Blaise
spitechuck?
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 04:29:04
Comments:
Speaking of Chuck Rainey, anybody care to explain this to
me, it
has always disturbed me:
"Let me tell you: When you
listen to Aja, those are some masterful
songs. Those things'll be around for a hundred years, man. Walter
does not read music, neither does Donald. They came to the studio
with full-blown demos, but the demos would sound like punk rock.
You talk about credit--Victor Feldman and Paul Griffin [keyboards],
Larry Carlton [guitar], Jeff Porcaro [drums]--those are the people
who sat down and put the chord changes on paper and made a road map
for us to play. As always, the good guys fall through the cracks.
I may be going back even to The Royal Scam [1976]. They should be as
rich as Becker, Fagen, and [producer] Gary Katz.
Paul Griffin was so good, they gave him songwriting credit for
part of a tune."
"Rainey doesn't suggest that
he ever earned a songwriting credit with the Dan--which would be a lifetime
pension. "If you're not a musician, you'd think Donald Fagen's the world's
greatest writer. But if you're a musician, you know that he ain't it.
He writes good melodies, he can play a little bit of piano. But if
it don't be for Walter Becker, there don't be no Steely Dan."
"But Rainey believes Steely
Dan--after Pretzel Logic in 1974--modeled
their style from a group in England on A&M in 1972. "A horn band--I
can't remember their name. The times I brought this up, I was made to
feel that I shouldn't by Gary Katz.""
source:
http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/1996-11-28/music.html
Name: Blaise
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 04:28:28
Comments:
btw I wouldn't mind Edd and me ending up being related after all.
Name: Blaise
spooky swede
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 04:01:32
Comments:
Clas, you say goodbye
and I say hello.
I'm not kidding. You asked if I was related to Edd at one point. Then I found
out his name. You're scary.
Name: Clas
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 04:00:30
Comments:
Humpffr... hm... my computer fucked up, it should be ”SWEDISH DICTIONARY”.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 03:52:18
Comments:
I'm sitting here doing some carpenting on a song dedicated to RubyBABY. This is what I've done this far:
RUBYBABY & THE SWDISH DICTIONARY
You say ”potejto”
I say ”potatis”
You say ”attchoo!”
I say ”attjo!”
You say ”fun”
I say lattjo!
Name: Britney
oops...
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 03:43:48
Comments:
, = .
Name:
again
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 03:41:24
Comments:
. = ?
Don't want to get Clas all worked up. He might ask Pompe for my first name.
Name:
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 03:37:19
Comments:
bue = bye.
Not that anybody cares...
Name: Blaise
tm
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 03:34:02
Comments:
I wasn't here yesterday yet I ended up posting a couple of times. Who did that? It was you, wasn't it. I knew it was you.
Clas is a scary guy, When I first
came in, he guessed my last name right away. Sheeesh I don't think he knows he
has psychic powers like that. Or maybe it's just Pompe that feeds him lines?
BTW, you need a numeric pad for ASCII codes and besides, where's the one on the
left side? That doesn't look pretty. Unlike Carolyn Leonhart, eh?
re: Nawlins jass fest, I'm all for it. If wormy's into a reenactment of that
Breck commercial, that is.
oleander, that RS top 100 is a list, I'm not surprised you don't like it. Seriously, how can you give credibility to a list that puts Alanis Morissette in front of Bob Dylan? It's a concession to that new generation, what's its name again? N'SYNC's bye bye bue is a classic and deserves to be up there.
pfff
later
Name: "dano"
get down yer record store quick
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 03:25:49
Comments:
Good morning chips , today is St Andrews day and if you run down to your local record store you can purchase any of these for a few dollars ???
Alex Harvey
John Martyn
Deacon Blue
Aztec Camera
Travis
Average White Band
Del Amitri
Texas
Eurythmics
Hue& cry
Many other Scottie ones i"ve left out chips. Happy St Andrews day have a
nice one. Regards "dano"
Name: "dano"
back in the real world??
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 02:55:00
Comments:
clas, I still love "The Load Out" went to see Jackson Browne last year in London, he was excellent??
chere, loved the Key West story we all luv ya
Al , we"re only making plans for Nigel, I still pogo to that one?
Difford & Tillbrook Good songwriting boys from the smoke??
Stevie, I bought "The
Insider" with my birthday wedge , still think its been the film of the year
so far?? Have you seen
Meet The Parents yet?? getting good reviews over here??
St Andrews day today ,all thing Scottish coming up for chips??
Name: Clas
Quite seriously: What is so great with this...
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 00:59:10
Comments:
...Carolyn Leonhart?
Listen to Jackson Brownes ”Running On Empty” and you'll hear a background-singer with a little dynamite in the pipe; - Rosmarie Butler.
The Steely Dan concert would have been to my complete satisfaction if Fagen/Becker had hired a couple of Rosmarie Butlers and a couple of Paul Carracks. Those girls they used were so lame. When they sang that beautiful piece ”...the Cuervo Gold / that fine Columbian / make tonight...” they sounded like a coverband.
C
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 00:47:34
Comments:
twm - you wrote; "Anyway, it sure was 'entertaining'".
It should be; ”Anyway, it sure was ”entertaining””.
No. What the hell.
Okay, I try again:
twm - you wrote; Anyway, it sure was 'entertaining'
It should be; Anyway, it sure was ”entertaining”.
Don't forget, push Alt and type 0148 and you'll get real quotationmarks.
Gina - how's the weather down in Netherlands? We in Sweden have a wet wollenblanket over the whole damn country. Pompe is hibernating.
I am sitting listening to Paul Carracks latest CD, ”Satisfy My Soul”. Excellent music from a great singer. Wonderful coverart, Bill Smith Studio.
Carrack is playing almost everything himself, he's also the producer and engineer. His old Squeeze-brother Difford co-wroted some songs with him.
Go buy it, you'll not be disappointed.
C
Name: Gina
Still headached
Date: Thursday, November 30, 19100 at 00:10:23
Comments:
came home late last night, when music's involved, time is
no essence! Hi StevieD, looks like I will go and do that performin on stage
thing after all, what the heck, right?
This evening I will see Jimmy Haslip/Michiel Borstlap Electric Band. Michiel's a
fine dutch jazzpianist know in the US as well and Jimmy Haslip, Hey Nineteen was
special in Rotterdam.
I really really like Carolyn Leonhart. Am not comparing, but does anyone know Sheila Jordan?
Off to catch some sleep. Am tired,
but adrenaline is keeping me awake.
And Stealin'Dan, great name!
Banyan Tree Yawn,
Gina
Name: StAlphonzo
stalfnzo@seanet.com
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 23:11:26
Comments:
Ok people! The t-shirts are in and available for shipment. Follow the link at the top of the Guestbook to purchase yours today.
They turned out great. I'm quite happy with them. The concern I have is the yellow color. Unfortunately the background of this GB isn't available in a t-shirt color so we went with straight Yellow. Yellow is one of those colors that looks great on some people, terrible on others. Depending on how well these things sell, perhaps the next run we'll try a different color?
All I ask is you give me time to process the orders. Please don't expect immediate turnaround. Many have asked where I find the time. Well, frankly if it wasn't for Mrs. Alphonzo, I'd be screwed. She's helping me on this one...
JW Malibu -- Yours is gratis. You shelled out your own $'s last year for Technicolor Motorhome, it's the least I can do. Make sure to place your order using the order form.
Name: State Liquor Board
SLA
Location: NYC, NY
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 21:44:25
Comments:
Auss- Hoops will help you get the pictures up only if you swear not to sneak your flask into Miss. Leonhart's performance. Come to think of it, who the hell brings a flask into a nightclub anyway? By any chance Auss, are you Puerto Rican? (not that it matters or anything)
Name: hoops
hoops@dandom.com
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 21:43:55
Comments:
Sure Aussie...be honored to, although due to time constraints, I don't think I did Cara Mia's beautiful photos of Herington's event justice. (I had to crank her page out within a 30 min limit.)
Wish I could be at CL's gig on 12/12, but can't unless my job interview schedule takes me there, which I don't think it will.
Thanks to Cara Mia and Aussie for allowing us to be there in vicarious sorts of ways via digital photos on the web.
h.
Name: Aus
Aus@home
Location: NYC, NY USA
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 21:15:26
Comments:
waaay too exhausted to give colour on Fripp assault from tonight. Glad I made it...much diffrent than last night. Amazing. Promise account tomara. sure you'll be pleased.
hoops: If I take my Sony Mavica digital camara to Ms. Leonhart's gig on the 12th will you help to get 'em up and running like you did with CaraMia's??
night everyone
Aus
Name: hoops
hoops@mac.com
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 19:46:09
Comments:
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From: "Zahn, Bill"
Subject: REMINDER: Chuck Rainey CD Debut Show NOVEMBER 30-TOMORROW!
Chuck Rainey had his lastest CD debut show with a packed house at the Red Blood Club in Dallas Saturday night November 25, 2000. With Chuck's soulful cover of SD's Night by Night getting airplay in New York as we speak, the show was as exciting as ever. Chuck has decided to encore this performance on Thursday, November 30, 2000 at the Red Blood Club, 2617 Commerce Street in Deep Ellum for the Dandom crew. Chuck will be available to sign his new CD "Sing and Dance". The CD will also be available soon in Tower Records stores, Wherehouse Music stores and Amazon.com soon.
Hope to see you there.
Show time is *** 9:00 PM **** (not earlier as previously noted elsewhere.)
BZ
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From: hoops@mac.com
Subject: More on Chuck Rainey
Please note the time change for Chuck Rainey's show tomorrow. (Starts at 9 PM) Be sure to pass this along to any one who might attend...definitely not an event to miss.
Also, Chuck's most excellent and new website, http://chuckrainey.com now also confirms Feb 15, 2001 as the date Chuck will play Le Bar Bat in NYC. Plan Now! The site is just getting its final touches and is designed by noneother than Elliott Randall.
Looking forward to reviews of Chuck's gig tomorrow evening as well as of his new album, "Sing and Dance." Wish I could be there.
hoops
Name: ruby baby
atchoo
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 17:38:25
Comments:
Altamira: Losing you as a friend would definitely bother me! On the one hand, if I retract my statements about DC in the interest of friendship, you'd see me as a hypocrite. But if I don't, my offence remains.
How about if I admit I could be wrong? I know that's true.
I was going to send you a book of Kwanza stamps. I still may, if there's any left at the post office.
me, rb
Name: Aja
eyes afire
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 17:22:35
Comments:
What great news, Roy! Please tell Hutch next time you see him how much he is missed. He always raised the standards here. "Josie" is the one song on Aja that I quickly got tired of due to the endless airplay, then gained a new appreciation of it after I heard it broken down. It's also one great song to dance to!
Gina-I never got that e-mail you talked about in your post. Don't want you to think I was ignoring you!
Jazzfest/Danfest: it will be the last week in April, and will be one awesome 'fest! ole, are you serious? Come!!!
Carolyn Leonhart's having a CD release party? Can't wait for the photos from that!
Aja
Name: Roy.Scam
right.here.on.our.stage.tonight.the.hutcheson.finger.family
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 16:47:48
Comments:
I was in 'the fan' in Richmond, VA Sunday and had lunch with Hutch. Anyway, as we sat about discussing Dan-like things and noodling on guitars (I noodle; he pasta supremos), he played "Josie" on his acoustic. I must say, this song opened up for me like never before, watching it rendered solo-acoustically. It works great as a seamless layered jazz fuzion record tweaked to the gills by 10 musicians; BUT, I was impressed anew with the songwriting skills of Messrs Becker and Fagen as I watched the chords develop and cycle and set up a great funky choreography for Hutch's dancing digits. These chords don't just stand around next to each other; they skitter around all parts of the fretboard like a goalie in a dart game and force the fingers to morph like liquid metal into ninthish, sixthlike, diminishing (partly diminished) and other unnatural, and probably unholy, configurations. How, one might wonder, does someone dream up such an odd sequence of disparate finger positions and have them seem to unfold in such a seemingly inspired manner. I, for one, just don't know. -- That song is a beauty formally dressed or stark naked with no makeup.
Hutch~ Thanks for the hospitality. I've said this before, If I had your hands, I'd turn mine in. Any time you gig acoustic in your living room, I'll be glad to be the crowd.
RS
Name: Quality or....
Getting along....
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 13:50:59
Comments:
gotta decide: QUALITY or GET ALONG?... QUALITY or GET ALONG? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Name:
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 13:44:02
Comments:
Name: .
.
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 13:39:24
Comments:
Now no one is using a real name
Can't we all just get along?
Name:
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 13:35:05
Comments:
CATFIGHT !!! DOGFIGHT!!!
Name: call 4
restraint
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 13:24:04
Comments:
sometimes a canvas
doesn't have to be painted on every second
this yellow one could use a lot less celebrity one liners
and a little more on the qualitative
just a thought
Name:
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 13:23:18
Comments:
lp: find another way to express yourself, okay? We luv ya, but we're so sick of the lame celebrities ad nauseum.
Name: sally field
er? who knew?
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 12:50:29
Comments:
actually, no i'm not, really, oh, gotta go again - what a life...
Name:
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 12:48:12
Comments:
okay - i'm sorry, i really am
Name:
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 12:46:33
Comments:
oh stop it lp
Name: greta garbo
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 12:33:11
Comments:
oh how untrue mr adler - they are so different, don't you see?
Name: Al Adler
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 12:04:12
Comments:
karl jung heisst das freinder sein und weltan angst sigmismund freud catholicische chere ein ds und gine
Name: lp
Wily like you can't believe too??????
Location: aussie,
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 11:53:20
Comments:
mares eat oats
and does eat oats
and little lambs eat ivy...
was that the song to which the party of to whom you are speaking?
shoot, got another meeting, yipes!
Name: Carl Jung
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 11:47:16
Comments:
no no chere, this person doesn't hate you, they hate themselves and spew their vomit everywhere they can. They especially hate someone who can find beauty in the ordinary because it underscores their inadequacy. They're just desperate for recognition-don't acknowledge them and they have no power over you. You know yourself well, and you certainly don't need validation from someone over the internet who can't even sign their name. Pity their ugliness and move on, content that you know real love and beauty.
Name: Aus
@work
Location: NYC, NY USA
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 11:42:50
Comments:
FYI: thanks for setting me straight. sounded too good to be true...could you imagine Floyd's Gilmore playing up in Harlem behind Ms. Leonhart? Still plan to attend.
Laundry query: Outsourced to the Koreans downstairs. Cheap, quick and efficient. Wily like you can't believe too!!
Nasdaq beating starting to really hurt atop of raised welts administered since this past April. Oooouch!
Aus
Name: chips
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 11:37:54
Comments:
yeah, me too - not.....
Name: FYI
Aus---------
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 11:37:47
Comments:
Aus...It's not the same David Gilmore that's in Pink Floyd. This Gilmore plays in a NYC based band called "The Lost Tribe". BTW, "The Lost Tribe" was Walter Becker's backing band on 11TOW.
Name: twm
Men in white coats.com
Location: Glasgow,
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 11:34:40
Comments:
Have just had my daily scroll through the postings, and now feel a whole lot happier with my mental health.
What was all that about!!!?
Anyway, it sure was 'entertaining'
Gina, Feargal Sharkey was (is) Irish, and sang with the Undertones, but my fave bands of the punk genre were The Clash, the Sex Pistols, Public Image Limited, Stiff Little Fingers and Magazine (but they aren't really punk) Most of that stuff hasn't aged too well (unlike my good, youngish self), but I still enjoy the odd pogo around the living room!!
Mibees the outburst of 'white noise' on the board was related to the hysteria that must be circulating over there just now following Dubya's declaration of victory?
Speak soon
Al
Name: vinyl walking
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 11:33:42
Comments:
aussie, when do you get your laundry done with all of this performance bar-hoppin'?
just jealous, that's all, sigh
calling out to steely dames who have not posted lately - come back, come back!
oops, another meeting -
Name: Aus
@wrk
Location: NYC, NY USA
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 11:29:45
Comments:
Carolyn Leonhart's bio (found on her sexy new web page)states a few of the cats on her new effort Steal the Moon. David Gilmour. Wow. One of my heroes playing with Steely Dan choir babe #1. Funny how things come together....
Plan to be at her CD party: 12/12/00 @ Showman's in Harlem: 375 west 125th Street between St. Nicholas and Morningside Avenues.
Aus
Name:
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 11:15:09
Comments:
uh, okay....thanks for sharing.....
anyone else want to say something?
Name:
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 11:13:28
Comments:
Hmm, surprised you didn't block me, you OH SO
free-spirited sweetheart! Cuz
now yer messin with a sonuvabitch... AND THE SINGLE BIGGEST ASSHOLE MUTHAFUCKA
YOU WILL EVER HAVE THE DISPLEASURE. That does not diminish your good fortune
in same.
So, before you DO block,
accompanied by god knows what vituperative raging,
and just to be sure you wont rattle THAT cage again -- LISTEN:
The fact that you will probably
eventually outgrow your mean-spirited self-
and maternal-loathing masquerading as playful insouciance, does much to
mitigate my feelings of woeful disdain for the commonness of your condition.
Your putative youth is no longer a valid excuse! Typical slavic (not to
mention westangelic-satanic-socalic) rearing notwithstanding, and unverifiable
at this point in any event, this matter of matermangling is of great cultural
moment -- and OF the moment! It's why I'd bother with you in the first place.
you coulda been a contenda, get it togetha yo mutha :o)
Name: Gina
Headached
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 10:53:32
Comments:
and glad to finally see some GB-names I can trust to be
who they post they are. Hello Chere, hi DS ... now I will admit that sometimes I
thought DS=Chere, because of the words, I don't know, getting paranoid a bit
perhaps, please take no offence, either Chere or DS!
To make sure I'm who I say I am, Aja, I wrote you something about a movie I saw,
Yellow Dog, a golden retriever and a young boy lost in the woods of Canada. The
dog should have an Oscar, really!
Haven't been to the Carolyn Leonhart site yet, will do so in a sec. As in now.
Off and out for drinks on this mercury day,
Bye now,
Gina
Name: lp
looking for my blender
Location: who wants, a margarita? I'm pourin'.
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 10:35:50
Comments:
hey chere, can i come back as you in my next life?
no offense to the wunderful wundergound others that i love here, and i do, and you know who you are - but you chere, do awesome posts!
you make the ordinary sound extraoridnary - a good skill to carry through life with
your line about "do you feel better now that you hurt my feelings" hits home - i'm trying to teach one of my youngin's to come back at the those who try to hurt her and say just that - you feel better now?
i feel better now - the negative ones could take a few lessons
Name: chere
sugabearchere@hotmail.com
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 10:20:38
Comments:
Well, I am glad that a few of you enjoyed the tellings of my stay in Key West. It really was quite magical. It looks as though I have a handful of folk that truly like me and appreciate me here and for that I am so very grateful. Thanks for having my back. Unfortunately there is someone here who really hates me. What an ugly thing to say. Very Very mean spirited and rude. It bothered me for about 30 minutes. Clearly that person is a coward, can't even sign his/her name. Does it make you feel all better now that you hurt my feelings? WhatEVER! You are a really sick person.
It is good to read all of you. Thanks and props and extra karmas to the folks out there who shouted out. It was so sweet of you Blaise to say you are a huge fan. And Ole, thanks for the Breeze analogy you and your angelic nature, I just luv ya!. I actually have a funny story to tell about breezes (some other day) and a second book to reccomend, it was made for anyone who reads or is going to read Maya. Gina, as always your sweet post made me smile. Steviedan darlin' you ALWAYS got my back. Thanks. Hope that nameless person does not make me resort to layin the root on em. My uncle left last night. We had tremendous bongo/percussive sesions on the beach in Key West and here in my living room while the raindrops fell outside. It was great fun. He called me last night to tell me he made it home safely and told me his house was broken into AGAIN while he was away. Thanks to the Gods again that the drum kits were all still there and left undisturbed. It's all about the music you know? I am off to have lunch with my cousins from Hawaii, they depart for home today. Lissa just returned from Capetown South Africa studying art and sociology, Sasha is still doing the Free Tibet Dali Llama thing, Kyle loves the waves in Oahu and shaping boards, Martha hangs with Julia Butterfly, and Kit just returned from Bali and learning how to Batik. They are an interesting bunch and to my great pleasure, also HUGE fans of mine. Hope Humpday is good to all of you. 'Tis good to be back. Thanks for the warmest of welcomes. Right back atcha! :o)-resident JUJU princess/chile' chere
Name:
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 10:18:25
Comments:
what was that?
Name: Martha Slut tm
Spells it ou fot you
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 10:16:19
Comments:
ps--I'm, well, basically (member, well basically Club) unavailable for private discussion (Walt, honeybunch?) at onthedunes@hotmail.com
**Love to all, goodnight you evildoers, where ever you are**
Name: Dr. Livingstone Slut
I presume, anyway
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 19100 at 10:03:49
Comments:
yah. and I "da no" where to begin.
If you read da last posts leading up to my disappearance, ya knows i was in for a big rest.
I real simply get sick of hearing my own voice.
How Don and Le Walt do any interviews AT ALL. Com