Name: Gap
wellingupdespitemyself
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 23:57:36
Comments:
I met my baby at the shrine of the martyr.
Name: Gino
Waiting@home
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 22:24:28
Comments:
Any idea when newly remastered versions of Pretzel Logic and Katy Lied are due to be released? Can't wait to hear what they do with Katy...
And why hasn't the official site said anything about the re-releases? You'd figure they would be plugging them or something...
Name: oleander
Pearl of the court-er
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 20:58:54
Comments:
OK. I first laid eyes on the Permasqueeze at a street basketball court in Ann Arbor. My then-boyfriend pointed him out to me as the funkiest hoops player he knew, and called him "the Pearl." (after, of course, Earl Monroe) And I was nailed then & there by his funky grace. I didn't actually meet him until nearly a continent later, in San Francisco, where we began a simmering, herky-jerky dance to get where we are 23 years & 3 kids later.
Aah, put down your handkerchiefs.
Midnite--Mazel tov! and thanx for the celestial tips.
FPR--A dis is a dis. The TV show is "Politically INcorrect." I don't give a shit about PC, but I do about people. How about if we take that stroll together?
fezo & St Al--The Doors were very important to me at the time.
maj--What is this world coming to?
Name: Mitch
Whisky A Go Go in L A
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 20:40:53
Comments:
Yes Jim Liked to pull his prick out , and drank too much. Those guys from UCLA were Theatre people, and had their own sound. Roadhouse Blues, Backdoor Man, Riders on the Storm . Who on this site hasn`t "Woke up and got myself a beer"
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Warm & Humid Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 17:46:05
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!
Hoping all went GREAT, and you had a pleasant, happy, and fun Thanksgiving Day holiday!!! I know most-of-you despise hearing of my "DanMoments", but here goes another one: I recently went to Oklahoma to visit my very best friend who went with me to see SD in concert in Oklahoma City, 1974. I took him some of my collection (obtained from some of y'all-----of the various "boots" from the 1993-94 Citizen, and later "Art Crimes '96" tour.
At the hotel, which was located in Norman, Oklahoma (where Oklahoma University is), their "social hour" was free beer. Hell, I don't know of any Steely Dan Fan that ain't some kind of "partaker" in some kind of mind-altering substance. Well, this was on Tuesday, November 24th. The free beer started flowing at 5:30 p.m., and I ain't late for "free" beer, DanGang!!! Anyway, the hotel had an awesome sound system, and since I had all of these CD's and tapes for my friend----I inserted the '93 "boot" from St. Louis---cranked it up. To our surprise, in walked "former" OU coach, John Blake----he was fired on T.V., Geena, the night before----actually preempting Kevorkian's "60 Minutes" euthanasia telecast.
Coach Blake sat down with a couple of other big dudes (am assuming they were either bodyguards or football players), and they drank with us for about an hour, listening to Becker and Fagen----enjoying their music and familiar with most of the songs. A memorable moment----best friend, "free" beer, GREAT sound system, Steely Dan, a former GREAT football player & so-so coach---but, damn----we had a helluva lot-of-fun and he loved "Deacon Blues".
. . .was just printing off some lyrics for my next (wish the Hell Packard would shut up stuff) when out popped a page which only said, " . . .gently squeeze them".
So, I MUST acknowledge the glorious women of St. Al's Guestbook, "Josie" being my oldest "buddy" on the page, and all of you other most sensuous, kind, and friendly DanFanDivas.
My immediate tribute to you is as follows:
Rose Darling: -----"Rose darling, come to me------
The clock is close at hand------All my empty words of love------Can never screen the flash I feel------Or make you understand . . ."Ruby Baby:-----" . . . Each time I see you baby my heart cries-----I'm gonna steal you away from all those guys------From the sunny day I met you-----Made a bet that I would get you-----Ruby Baby when will you be mine . . ."
Geena, Lisa, Luckless Pedestrian II, EvivaLaughs, Babylon Sister, et. al-----let-me-work-on-it, darlins', but I love ya just the same; and, you damn sure got my email address!!!
Oleander: Well, you already know how-I-fell about you, kiddo!!
Josie---My Oldest Cherished DanFan (whom I originally proposed the "DanCruise" to, about two years ago)-----Donald (In The Florida Room, I'm ready!!!):" . . .When Josie comes home-----So Good-----She's the pride of the neighborhood-----She's the raw flame-----The live wire-----She prays like a Roman-----With her eyes on fire . . ."
And I know y'all are probably saying or hopefully singing, " . . .Is he crazy, is he high----or, just an ordinary guy? . . ."
All lyrics copyright Walter Becker and Donald Fagen-----geez, Edd, the copyright symbol code ain't workin'!!!!
Saludos!!!!Michael
; )
Name: les the fly
@ter night
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 17:11:33
Comments:
who started all this mushy crap?
I'm still waiting for the one so I can write about her on here, I guess I'm just jeolous! I would prefer to marry someone who is as big as a dan fan as me, who knows maybe one of the lovely ladies on the Guestbook! Ladies of the guestbook- if your interested in dating a hot young DANOMANIAC stud then send me a e-mail at: DANFAN27@YAHOO.COMI like long walks on the beach, candle light dinners, and making love by the fireplace while listening to Steely Dan!
Name: Babylon Sister
in search of Mr. RIGHT NOW!!!
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 16:24:42
Comments:
Reading about all you Dansters in love gives me hope-- I'm still waiting / looking for my guy! Do any of you know a nice guy in San Diego, Ca.?? Just curious.............
Name: David in the Florida Room
Happy@now.net
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 14:05:27
Comments:
Hello all Dan Fans, Hope I didn't make too much of Shamans Blatherings.....I just get tired of Lousy music Foisted on the public through radio programmers,year after year till there's so much garbage that an entity like Steely Dan gets overlooked at the Hall of Fame...and at the very least not enough people get exsposed to their greatness.
Eviva laughs--I met my wife while in a Band. She was a big Fan of the group, but didn't really notice me for 6 months or so..a mutual friend and fellow musician Introduced us (he went thru school with her) She just liked the band that played cool music..and the drummer who sang "only a fool would say that" and "Razorboy"....we also played stuff by Jethro Tull,Billy Cobham, Loggins and Messina( check out the Full Sail LP) Esoteric stuff...that was 23 years ago. We lived together 11 years and got married 12 years ago...Life is Good!
David
Name: RubyBaby
with@dentyne smile
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 13:36:28
Comments:
Midnite Cruiser: Thanks for sharing the news with us! May it be a marriange made in heaven, always! (btw, I wholeheartedly agree with fezo. Elopement isn't such a bad idea...)Clas: Shane Fontayne can be found on many recordings. He played with Bruce Springsteen on Plugged: In Concert. He's found on Five Miles From Hope (Mindy Jostyn). Wasn't DF a part of that, too? He's played with Stever Forbert on a few of his albums. I'm pretty sure he's on Little Stevie Orbit. He played with Maria McKee, Chis Botti, Neal Coty, Dar Williams & a bunch of others. Recently, he played for John Waite on his latest cd, When You Were Mine. The guitar is excellent on that! Yes, you should grab a listen. I'll bet even Johan would dig this guy's talent.
Stranger: Are you a 3 or a 4? (I don't have one of those hair dryer thingies.) Thanks for the complimento. I promise to stop posting in sweats.
Eviva: I love your spouse question!
I met mine while I was slinging pizza & beer to make ends meet. He'd come in to pick up his take-out order. He'd grab some conversation with me as I put my table orders in to the kitchen. I didn't even know his name. But one night, he decided to stay and eat there. I guess fate placed him at one of my tables. For whatever reason, he only left me a one dollar bill. But he wrote the most touching poem along the edges of it. So began the courtship...rb
Name: fezo
the.crystal.ship
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 12:00:30
Comments:
The Doors did do more than that one song about offing Dad and getting Odepial with Mom and even that song worked great as part of the score for the best Vietnam movie ever. Sure, Morrison did become a embarassing, fat drunk, at the end of his career but even then the last album was probably their best with "L.A. Woman" and "Riders on the Storm". I always thought the band as a whole was less pretentious than the Stones have ever been. And the movie makes a great rental, if just for the Miami sheep and exposure scene. Those must have been the days. Bringing barnyard animals to concerts and topless women dominating the crowd.
Wishing I could break on through
fezo
Name: Schemin' Mimi
the best laid plans of mice and Morrison
Location: I think, therefore I slam
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 11:08:24
Comments:
I'd have to agree with Stranger regarding the whole Doors issue. All I ever heard emanating from young Jimmy were the drug-induced ramblings of a guy affected by an acute Oedipus complex. It gives the phrase "Pappa's Got a Brand New Bag" a whole other set of possibilities. I mean, we all get high, write bad poetry and imagine our parents naked. But how many of us turn that into song?
Name: TheStranger
while the pore people sleeping the stars come out at night
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 11:00:36
Comments:
rubybaby,
you asked about my planet. the music there sucks, which is one reason i emigrated. most of the men have three penises, although four is not uncommon. the women, like you, are gorgeous (i can see you through a special internet apparatus i put together. it looks a lot like a hairdryer). 'can i see grovular at night?' only when you're chewing dentyne.
Name: TheStranger
see how they roll
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 10:18:13
Comments:
St.AL,
i find it amusing that after you put all this together you don't check on it for a month at a time. i kind of like that in a way. and though perceptions differ, i have always found the doors to be an example of the big lie syndrome. clinton's another example. republicans keep saying, man, this guy is great with media, we can't compete with him as a speaker. but when he delivers a speech i hear a nervous, monotoned, cornpone highschooler. everyone says the doors were innovative, ahead of their time, etc., but that's not what i heard. you asked a good question. what was there to listen to in the 80s? hmmm. anybody got any ideas? i don't remember the 80s. maybe i was out somewhere. besides, wasn't morrison dead in the 80s?
Name: Myra Eyefull
Singingmywaythruschool
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 10:14:18
Comments:
Eviva laughs: Big Roy and I met during my senior year at University of Illinois. His roommate and my roommate were engaged. He came up to my school to go out with another girl and he heard me sing "Alpha Phi Man" ("Stormy Weather") for my sorority. I was engaged to someone else at the time so we did not start dating for another couple years. Roy has a way of growing on people and I never laughed so much in my life until I met him.
Myra
Name: fezo
working.for.a.living
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 07:33:48
Comments:
I met my bride through my relentless pursuiit of her roommate who I harbored a mad crush on for years and years and years. I finally got my nerve up to ask her out (truth be told, I think she asked me out cause she was tired of my stuttering and stammering around her). So we go out, have a great time, go back to her place, and I meet a woman who I'm immediately more attracted to. For the decency's sake, and cause I think sometimes the Mrs. checks out the GB to see what family secrets I'm spilling, I'll stop the story there.
Congrats to two GBers who are about to enter the marriage fray. I'm probably the newliesswed here (a little over a year) so feel free to pepper me with any questions. Here's a hint: marriage is a breeze compared to all the hassles of the preparations for the big event. Consider eloping.
fezo
Name: Freakin' P.R.
phobia schmobia
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 06:42:52
Comments:
Ole: No phobia here. Down here it's tough. A spade is a spade.
I've been called worse. You learn to suck it up. No time to be politically correct. That's TV stuff. Walk 300 miles across the desert in my shoes, babe.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 02:18:14
Comments:
I met my honey in school. She was singing on some event, don't remember what. I was 16 she 17. She was so beautiful, the long blond-red hair and everything.
I said to myself - man, that girl's gonna give birth to your son. And she did.
And I still love her after all these years.
Name: peg
totzke@usa.net
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 at 00:50:23
Comments:
maj: huh? I think I'm still here. Maybe.
Can't get chat to work anymore!
Name: Schwinn
$2.99@BMG
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 23:05:52
Comments:
The balmy weather of the central/south beckoned me and the big bike to engage in a little turkey-shootin' and so far it's Schwinn 23 / Turkeys 0. (Not counting Shaman.)
You should have seen the faces of the underpriviledged as I roared into the shelters with all those birds wrapped around me. "Hey it ain't roadkill, Pilgrims", I bellowed as I tossed a few birds towards the Salvation Army Santas. "It's a gift from the Indians so you can survive the winter and eventually head west to settle this big 'ol piece of real estate!"
Damn I love the holidays. Did I miss anything? Oh, the new digital re-mix of Countdown made me say, "Ho, ho, ho!"
Light as a Leather Feather,SEMB
Name: StALphonzo
stalfnzo@seanet.com
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 22:35:29
Comments:
Hey folks! Just want to apologize for the size of the guestbook. Just bought a new computer and haven't had a chance to re-install Front Page. Soon...
It's been a while since I posted anything. Frankly, don't think I've read the book in close to a month. Nice to see it just keeps rolling along. To those still patiently waiting for a closer to the contest we started a few months ago, I promise I'll get something together soon.
Shaman: Buddy... I thought Uncle Jerry was dead. Last I heard, and I have heard, Steely Dan is making a new CD (go figure). Should be out later next Spring/Summer? I guess that makes you wrong. That's ok, it good to admit when you're wrong....
OK, I can't resist. I realize this might be a dying thread, but, my first concert experience....[CRINGE] -- Rainbow, with special guest: "Johnny Cougar", circa 1979. Alright, I said it. I was 14... Since then I've also seen John Cougar Mellencamp and John Mellencamp. At least one of them had some staying power.
Lester: I believe there is a way to enable sounds on for the chat room. I've used it before with limited success. Check out the FAQ. There is a link to it right off the chat room page.
Stranger: I'm a Doors fan, man. Well, I used to be a really big Doors fan. Remember the 80's? Well, while everyone else was wearing skinny ties, listening to Flock of Hair, or whatever they called themselves, I had to turn to the 60's for my musical enlightenment. I mean, short of the 6 or 7 solid albums put out in the 80's, there really wasn't much else to listen to. I guess what struck me about your dis on the Doors was your attack on lyrics. Jim Morrison was a great poet and songwriter. Forgetting all his foibles, his early stuff was quite innovative. I admit, I rarely listen to them anymore.
Name: Shaman
Love the pain
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 21:18:37
Comments:
So you want to know who I am? I am the secret knowing self of you all. We all know Steely Dan is history. But I say it. Like I said, it's my job. Why do you force me to repeat myself? Look at what you know to be true and learn to embrace it. It will set you free.
Name: TheStranger
we'll drive to the coast
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 21:10:54
Comments:
david in fla. room,
i'm with you, pal. the doors have got to be the most overrated crap since the french army. 'like a dog without a bone.' what lyrics. what junkass music. it's 'classic' groups like the doors which keep me switching off the classic album rock station.eviva lafs,
i met my honey in the crowded central district of planet grovular. because grovularians communicate telepathically, we each knew what the other was thinking, but so did everyone else so we barely escaped arrest by a detachment of grovular imperial morals security.
Name: TrippinPhan
jsha@aahmon
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 20:02:37
Comments:
Shaman, thou bringest laughter induced tears to my eyes. I foresee many moons of thouest weaving dreamcatchers. Hey, I'll buy one, tho. I'll even bring you something for your pipe.
Walter ain't singin Heidegger, IS he??? NAAAAAAHHHHH. just a thought.
Tower here has Countdown to Ecstacy at their listening station.
y'all take care now.
Name: Lester the nightfly
danfan27@yahoo.com
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 19:44:20
Comments:
Hey St. Al I have a suggestion! Can u put a ring feature on the chat room? I noticed that people seem to log on to the chat room then go surfing around maybe reading the guestbook while someone shows up and then they go unnoticed. Maybe if there was a way to announce yourself. Kind of the same way u would private message someone only it rings. I'm guilty of it also I'll log on then read the guestbook then check back every few minutes and damn if someone wasnt in the chat room and then vanished without a trace!
I dont know what it would take to add that, but if its to much of a pain dont worry about it.My theme song would most definately have to be without a doubt:
KISS- ROCK & ROLL ALL NIGHT AND PARTY EVERYDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Name: maj©
frontier@hrd.org
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 18:41:43
Comments:
Earth to Pehhhhhhg?
So anyway, while I was waiting around to see if the chat site would load, I learned that:
At BMG......
....Citizen is specially priced at 11.96.....and....
Alive in America (well worth it to hear Green Earrings alone) is 2.99, YES 2.99...... all other releases are 14.98 - 16.98 each.
GO FIGURE!!!! I added both to my shopping cart.
now the bad news.....
....shipping and handling on Citizen? 7.58 !!
....and on AinA? 7 Fucking dollars. Insert that into your Christmas fucking Carol and smoke it, why don't ya.
I was gonna check that prices for ABBA stuff but I was too disgusted.
Would you order anyway??
maj©
Name: maj©
frontier@hrd.org
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 18:21:19
Comments:
SD Chat site ain't working for you either, right?
maj©
Name: oleander
beginning to steam up
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 17:19:13
Comments:
WOW! I can see it now!!
A mass Danfan wedding, a la the Moonies, on board the SS Mizar 5, the Big Red Boat of Dandom! Led by Eviva and Midnite and their squeezes, with the organ warbling a processional Dan medley, and with Kinky doing the honors. All of us who are already knotted can do a--uh, what do they call it? Recommitment?--and those who are living in sin can recommit to living in sin. And the singles can laugh at us from the wet bar.
And the entertainment at the reception? Well, who else?
Name: JosieDanFan
puh-leese!!
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 16:41:24
Comments:
Hey Guys,
I'm very sleepy and worn out so I'll make it quick...
Shaman, GET A LIFE!! Just cause you are too impatient to wait for a new one doesn't mean you have the right to tell us that we are dumb for waiting. Besides we dont sit in here all day chanting "Where's the new one!!?!?" "Where's the new one!!?!?" like you seem to think we do. So go eat some more turkey and shut the fuck up!
Love ya! mean it!!
JDF
P.S. I feel so much better
Name: EvivaLaughs
coma.coma.coma.chameleon
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 16:38:07
Comments:
Ahh, it's so nice to take a break from the real world and come here for a few (thanks Ruby :) )!
Myra E:
OK, I know these don't go together, but my two are "Any World" and that Whitney Houston song that starts "I believe that children are our future"--what's the name of that song...?
BTW, question for you, if I may ask: how did you and Roy.Scam meet?Expanding the question for spouses here:
how'd you meet your honeys? [honies? Or is that homies?]Rose:
OK, I'll e-mail you--thanks :)!oleander:
Yo, sista! Ask Rose--she's got the news--or will have soon...Ruby:
Fantastic point about making escapes--speaking of which, is yours a good question or what?! May I ask how you thought of it, or is that prying :)--you aren't an X-Phile, are you? Actually, it never occurred to me to wonder until Kinky popped up and got desperate for female attention :( [still trying to erase that from the memory banks...]!Stranger:
Typical male earthling response to Ruby :D! Just kidding, guy--but what's scary is your "Men are from Grovular" to which I add "Women are from ________" [yes, you got it]!rawflame:
Think I'll ask my honey to give me a DanCruise for our honeymoon and then I'll know how many veins he has in his neck...! Or maybe the cruise should be my bachelorette fling!Whaddya think, ladies?
Bill "defining doneness down" Clinton:
LOL at your post. Here's your definition [quoting Dr Mu, unless you ARE Dr Mu, then I'm quoting you]: "done, toast, adios!"Wish you were there,
Eviva
Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 16:27:56
Comments:
first of all, Midnite Cruiser and Midnight are two different people...don't know him.
ole....Midnight was right in that it was Jupiter that was so close to the moon the other night....should be very near Saturn tomorrow night.
got the Les Dudek cd "Deeper Shades Of Blues" in the mail when I got back from West Virginia and I'm thrilled with it. It's great to hear him playing and with such a talented bunch of people!
and now the big news (for me anyway)....I gave my girlfriend "the" ring while we were at her Mothers for Thanksgiving. No date set yet, just sometime this Spring. It's been a tough year but it certainly is going out on a great note!!
Name: David in the Florida Room
off@pissed.com
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 14:07:57
Comments:
Sorry Folks...gotta Vent
Who is this Shaman guy and why is he trying to bum us out?
If he was a real Shaman he'd be giving a progress report to the legions of Dandom Fandom!
But, He is Not...and until "today's" music finds a way to peak my Interest, or speak to my soul,I'll wait some more!
'Cause there ain't nothin' I repeat, NOTHIN" that even comes close to Steely Dan in My book.
Speaking of Shaman,the last one I remember who called himself a Shaman was Jim Morrison...that Bloated drunk who died in Paris! when they were "Big" I had to personally suffer thru playing that Crap till the Audience found another Flavor of the month! Not to mention the most Pathetic guitar solos this side of Neil Young!
But I Digress.....Mssrs.Fagen and Becker,Do what you've got to do...we know you'll deliver the Goods!
David
Name: Shaman
oh the folly
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 09:14:04
Comments:
After a welcome rest on turkey day I set out once again to wander the land proclaiming the Gospel: Steely Dan no longer exists. Their creative juices are fried and fricaseed (you spell it). But when I stopped briefly in my travels to revisit this guestbook, here you were still, like farmyard geese. Get thee hence, I tell you. There is no new material. Stop smiling like imbeciles. Did anyone bother to ask the boys whether they'd actually composed anything? This is mass hysteria! They probably don't even remember which dusty closets holds their instruments. Take up smoking. Go to the mall. Find romance. Get on with your lives. I preach no Gospel of deprivation. Enjoy. Live. But begone.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 at 03:17:54
Comments:
Dr "the Nobelprizer" Mu:
"Earth to Clas: Hey, what about "Hat Too Flat," eh? In actuality, neither HTF nor "Tomorrow's Girls" are of course really about aliens - the Sci-fi construct is just an interesting vehicle to talk about fitting in, and today's vs. yesterdays girls (See Pleasantville), respectively...also, the Kama theme is Sci-Fi the way Gibson is sci-fi - warped near future tekkie twist... a little imagination, y'know. And again the real theme is not what will happen in the future, but how Fagen feels about it. Listen only to Florida Room, On the Dunes, Teahouse... over and over until you feel better. True Companion: well, the movie WAS a sci-fi cartoon..."
Oh, I'm so glad you told me this. I didn't know, I'm so grateful.
What's the next thing you gonna tell me? That cigs are dangerous for your health? That coffee keeps you awake at night? That you are a fucking lier?
RUBY; if you come, you'll meet an ET. And, who is this Shayne guy, something I should listen to?
Rose Darling; Bowie? Girl, you're drawing a straight line in the dust.
Name: DrMu
among all the other typos
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 21:49:47
Comments:
that darned album cover! We Ran = She Ran
Name: DrMu
that's the end of that
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 20:34:51
Comments:
BDF: Could be. I didn't elaborate, but one image that comes to mind was one of immigrants who come to this country from the old world (mine mostly from Ireland and Italy about a centruty ago). Some were big shots, some weren't it didn't matter for most as it was a struggle to fit in. Indeed, the closed doors were a lot of it. Of course the lines about how little work they had to do on their own planet kinda disavows a real direct connection...or how about the notion of artists trying to blend in to the real world or Walter and Donald trying (probably not hard or at all) to make progress with the LA music industry and social scene? Mostly, the song's funny as hell.
Roy: at the risk of donnig the asbestos thermasuit (damn it's at the dry-cleaners again, Linda Ronstadt has shown quite a lot of care recording with top-notch session players/producers such as
Wassy Waxhtel, Peter Asher, Don Grolnick in the pop venue and the nice stuff with Nelson Riddle especially "What's New" and she honored her father and family with some Mex. roots music. Even today she has a power and ring in her voice that can't be touched: a now great technician who always could, and still can, put some emotion and realness in her vocals. She chose great songs and covers (even though this disqualifies her from the DHOF) from Roy Orbison to Warren Zevon to Elvis Costello. Her looks and the fact she was Jerry Brown's sig. other for a while had some discount her ability to actually "understand" some of the lyrics (I think Elvis Costello mentioned something like that while punch-drunk days' follwoing from getting beaten up by some Tennessee 'necks in a bar...my head swum for a minute when I heard it... and then I looked at the cover of "hasten Down the Wind" for a few minutes... and I was fine - boy, the kids today don't know what they're missing without the LP format), but she's retained a lot of control in her musical direction. Anyway, she came to mind as my wife opened a birthday present (she's a fan), Linda's new one "She Ran," which harkens back in sound to her mid-70s heydey - darned nice sound. Checking out the credits; an nteresting mix of producers: Glyn Johns (the Who???), George Massensburg (Little Feat II), Peter Asher, and Waddy Wachtel. Plas Johnson, Don Grolnick, and ubiquitous Heartbreakers Benmont Tench and Mike Campbell help out.
Name: JosieDanFan
hellomellowyellowjellofellow
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 19:58:17
Comments:
hey DanFans..
So a floating DanFest? I like it...
Ruby: Do illegal aliens count?
Myra: I would have to say Josie is my theme song, I'd like to think that I was that cool,(no jokes Kinky, please)I try though.
I have songs though that I dedicate to parts of my life, or ppl that have effected my life. For example, I dedicate "Barrytown" to my ex boyfriend..it's perfect for him.
Well guys I gotta go to work now..overnight sucks!
JDF
Name: Big Fan
here@thewesterworld.com
Location: Anywhere, USA
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 16:20:48
Comments:
I always thought that Hat to Flat was about predujice. A group of people comes to smewhere and tries to fit in, they can't figure out why they are not treated fairly or the same or are ostricised (sp?) They can't comprehend that it is their race or skin color or accent, whatever that is causing this, so they balme their hat (clothes), tons of metaphors, etc. But only WB knows for sure. I never really liked this son, but it has grown on me recently.
BTW reissue of CTX is esp wonderful. My old CD had the dislamor about tape, his analog mixing, etc. It sounds dead compared to the new one. CBAT is not as stricking a differnce since it was digitally remixed prior. Well worth the $12 each to listen to and read the liner notes.
Name: Babylon Sister
Uuhhhhh.........
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 14:44:59
Comments:
My, my Children!! All this discourse while I am away for a few
days!!
I saw John Fogerty this summer in concert, and I have to tell you
just what a powerful show it was. He really puts out, if you
know what I mean!! Yes, Fezo, the others are still touring under
the name Creedence Clearwater REVISITED.....
Okay now kiddies, try to get along. If you are all good, there
will be Grandma's home-made Cherry pie!!!!!!!
Name: RubyBaby
@midnight rendezvous
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 14:15:23
Comments:
RazorBoy: Yeah, there's more than enough spaced out wacko males. It was just a passing thought, love. May I e mail you some time?H.E. Oleander: I missed that part of Man Who Fell to Earth! But there's this one scene when he smiles at someone, and his blue eyes and boyish grin just melt me. (H.E. = highly esteemed)
stranger: Please tell me about planet grovular. Can I see it when I gaze up at night?
Mad Man Across the Water: OK, I won't make you listen to Kamakiriad when I come to N'awlins in the Spring. I'll just bring the bare essentials.
All this talk about great guitar playing just keeps making me remember the last concert I went to. It was a John Waite concert in Las Vegas. I was sitting not 8 feet from Shayne Fontayne! There's nothing he can't do with a guitar - any guitar! He broke 2 strings during the 1st show, but it didn't matter. He's the coolest. John Waite did some terrific Baby's songs, a few Bad English tunes and some solo material. All of it sounded excellent. He quit smoking and his voice is as pure as crystal.
That whole weekend just rocked!I saw Shayne later in a restaurant and he signed my driving glove and we chatted for a while. He's such an intense musician, but a soft-spoken gentleman. I could re-live that again, boy!
rb
Name: Rose Darling
it.ain't.me.I.ain't.no.fortunate.one
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 14:10:26
Comments:
Mitch:
I would hardly call my response to Shaman a "panic" attack.
Just a reality check.Shaman:
Perhaps if you had added some sweet potato casserole and apple caramel pie, you could truly have buried your grief. Turkey dressing and pumpkin pie are filling, but so trite. At least try ice cream on the pie next time, for God's sake.ruby:
Nope, never ever wondered that one. Too many fabulous men left in the world to think about before I'd ever even go there...
(Razor Boy, regain your self esteem !)oleander: "Man Who Fell to Earth" was not Bowie's shining moment on film. I know what you mean about the dense posting (no holiday rest for the cyber-weary.) I'll also go with your thanarelevant explanation, it's good enough for me.
Midnight:
Get out into the daylight. It might change your perception. No "intellectual midgets" here, pal (and I use that word loosely.)
Name: TheStranger
buried in paper
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 10:13:31
Comments:
all right, who sent over the truck filled with swedish kerplotkins and what the hell can i do with them all? big joke, huh? you're ruining the environment.
Name: TheStranger
when will you be mine?
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 09:53:49
Comments:
ruby baby,
now that's what i call typical earthling behavior. you've got billions of men from which to choose, and who do you dream about? an alien. it's that kind of attitude that makes me glad i'm from planet grovular.
Name: DrMu
terrafirma
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 07:47:05
Comments:
Earth to Clas: Hey, what about "Hat Too Flat," eh? In actuality, neither HTF nor "Tomorrow's Girls" are of course really about aliens - the Sci-fi construct is just an interesting vehicle to talk about fitting in, and today's vs. yesterdays girls (See Pleasantville), respectively...also, the Kama theme is Sci-Fi the way Gibson is sci-fi - warped near future tekkie twist... a little imagination, y'know. And again the real theme is not what will happen in the future, but how Fagen feels about it. Listen only to Florida Room, On the Dunes, Teahouse... over and over until you feel better. True Companion: well, the movie WAS a sci-fi cartoon.
Name: fezo
chuggingcoffee
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 06:21:59
Comments:
ole: no offenses taken whatsoever. i thought it was a really funny phrase. hadn't heard it for awhile
Dr. Mu: I think that was the case that made it all the way to the Supremes (old manager complaining about soundalikeness of Centerfield). Fogarty came out well on it cause the issue that made it all the up was the availability of harpie fees in meritless copyright suits. Vants/Lants suit was found so unworthy of consideration that Fogarty got all his legal costs taken care of and became a well-known name as well in intellectual property law.
I believe the surviving members of Creedence (down to two, Fogarty's brother died last year) have kept the name and still tour under it or a slight bogus variation like Creedence Clearwater Revue. I think I'll pass if they come to town
Name: The World As I See It
Location: , America
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 04:25:13
Comments:
Life aint fair, Johnboy.
Name: John
living in Guadalajara
Location: America,
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 04:01:44
Comments:
Huuuhuu... Edd got twentyfive dollars when he was going to buy an icecream, I only got five! That's not fair!
Huuuuuhuuuhuu...
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 03:55:01
Comments:
The Stranger; "...hornsby couldn't write a toilet paper ad..." Man, that's the hardets thing that can be written. Believe me, I've done a few, it goes with the territory.
Name: Clas
Mad Man Across The Water
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 02:48:26
Comments:
John living in america;
let me ask you something, do you live in SouthAmerica? NorthAmerica? Mexico? If you live in Jasper, Texas, let me ask you something again, have you ever been abroad? And I mean ABROAD. Not Oklahoma or Queens, you know, I mean another country.
No, I didn't think so.
Look here, here's five bucks, go buy yourself an icecream. Keep the change.
Ruby Darling; yeah, I guess you're right. "Child is father to the man" I heard someone say.
But the lyrics on Kamakiriad are so damn boring. Becker is the man!
Name: Midnight
tryptophanic
Date: Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 01:51:02
Comments:
Oleander--the object tracking the moon is the planet, Jupiter. You know, God hates it when we know more about where to buy this year's hot, new toy than what our forefather's set their clocks to. I apologize for ending the previous sentence with a preposition but what do I care? I'm in the midst of intellectual midgets and am just trying to fit in. (Ooops! There's another one...) If this keeps up I'll be president!
But until then, keep watching WWF and the Skys. Guess which one is fake and win a month's free star-gazing from the Ventura Observatory courtesy of the King of Minnesota!
BTW, there's a huge difference between playing three chords and exploiting the transitory harmonics between chord changes ala Fogerty. The guy gave one of the best shows I've ever seen or heard. The differences between someone who writes primarily on an acoustic versus an electric guitar, (particularly a Les Paul), was readily apparent during the show. The stuff that sets Fogerty apart is his intonation. You don't learn that on a Les Paul, baby. Fogerty plays and listens with his body. I got the feeling he was only playing a strat because the pick-ups wouldn't feed back. Damn he played loud and clean!
Jupiter's Child,
Middy
Name: oleander
here today, tomorrow gone
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 23:13:50
Comments:
Wow, and I thought the holiday would make for sparse posting. Mu--do you really think it's a mass tryptophan hallucination?
Myra--"Josie." (I wish!) "Only A Fool" or "My Old School"--more often than not.
Rose--Maybe he meant "thanatopical"--keeping up with the news about death, or "thanatopsical"--having to do with an autopsy on death's cold corpse. Both would fit, no?
Shaman--Well, fine, I'll wave to you while you carry your sign outside the concert hall as I'm strolling in.
Ruby--Actually, there have been not a few times in the past couple of decades when I could have sworn my husband was an alien. But really--that scene in "The Man Who Fell To Earth" put me off alien sex even before that.
fezo--oh no, I hope you weren't offended. You don't look anything like a harpy.
Mr. whatevah--Yeah, kids say the darndest things.
Midnite--What was that in the sky this evening that looked like it was going to collide with the moon?
Friquen--Please hold the homophobia.
Cruise, eh?.... Well, if they can promise me my own lifeboat complete with crew, provisions, and stereo, I just might sign on.
Name: Rigs
LEW DEW shrin frong frip fro quo.gibbers
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 22:41:44
Comments:
Hi SD fans,
It's good to see that some things never change. Evertime I come here there's an argument going on. The Steely Dan Philosophy channel. Anyways, I hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving and I hope it leads to a great Holiday!!!!!Lisa, If your still around, I wish you would leave me a message on the GB. I miss you a hole ton!! I want to get reaquainted. If not, I hope your doing well. Bye evoL //oo\\
Name: clutchcargo
inorbit
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 21:15:59
Comments:
rb
wondered?
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 20:47:14
Comments:
Got to spend Thanksgiving in Berwick, Penn. again this year, running a footrace called "Run for the Diamonds." I always enjoy my visits to the USA.
Ruby, aren't there enough spaced out, wacko males on this earth before branching out to Extra Terrestrials? I'm sure they would be just as intriguing to bonk as the Zero Gravity Set. All of a sudden I feel hopelessy inadequate. Scary thing is, there's probably sufficient mood music to make both parties feel comfortable.
Razor
Name: DrMu
can't titrate that toke of tryptophan
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 20:17:41
Comments:
Fezo: Wasn't one of the most ridiculous suits against Joh Fogarty about him "plagarizing his own style" in a sense. Fogarty wrote and produced virtually every CCR song until their last. Somewhere along the way, they signed off the rights of their songs to some sleaseball (the Lantz/Vantz guy?) who later sued Fogarty after the release of "Centerfield" because it sounded too much like CCR!! JF won, but was seriously pissed for about 10 years afterwards.
Roy: Good rec... I don't have any Laura Nyro although I'm familiar with her songs like "and When I Die", "Eli's Coming," "Stoned Soul Picnic." Also "Midnite Blue?" I'll admit I only remember soundbites from smoky rooms over the past 25 years. Quickly inspected her discography: would you recommend the 60's teenage wunderkind stuff, "Smile", or the Gary Katz produced "Walk the Dog and Light the Light?" or the anthology?...saw the cast of usual suspects credited: Will Lee, Breckers, Rick Marotta, Chris Parker, Eliot Randall, Chuck Rainey, and could it be "Todd?"...must place in the 'ol wish list
Name: rubybaby
kama kama kama kiriad
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 16:37:11
Comments:
Clas: Happy Thanksgiving, dude! You can celebrate it if you want. Damn, your English is getting good...Now about these *overgrown child sci-fi lyrics* :
What would life be like without any fun make-believe stuff? I think the lousier the world gets, the more some of us tend to pretend. Good defense mechanism, y'know. We are the dreamers, the players and the comedians of the world.
And, if I may add, it seems that men have an overgrown child in them til they die anyway. I think writing is a great way to share it.
Sometimes, it's the best part.guest book girls: Have any of you ever wondered what it would be like to make love to an alien? Not that there are any...
rb
Name: fezo
i.wrote.a.song.about.a.bad.man
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 14:17:21
Comments:
As Stranger points out, Fogarty has had more than his share of problems with lawyers (or as ole likes to call them, legal harpies). It's a wonder he hasn't gone postal and mowed down ten or twenty on the courthouse lawn. He's always getting hauled into court for something. He had some landmark copyright case make it all the way to the Supreme Court (he won). His main problem has been a former manager/lawyer who somehow got the rights to all his songs and the Credence name. Fogarty got him back good though. On his comeback album in the mid-80's he included a song about the manager which was called "Lantz Can't Dance (sample lyric: Lantz can't dance but he'll steal your money watch him come and rob you blind) His former manager, whose name closely resembled "Lantz" was not amused and, of course, sued. The court made Fogarty change to title . . . he chose "Vantz" and released a great video for the song where he was surrounded by dancing pigs grabbing money with their feet.
More Fogarty stories available upon request
Name: TheStranger
sixes and sevens and nines
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 12:09:36
Comments:
roy scam,
you are right. you can't copyright titles, only the work itself, so when i say hornsby may have ripped off the fortunate son title, i didn't mean legally. but if you think the legal system has any connection to morality, check out o.j. he's playing golf. or ask john fogerty, who, as you mentioned, created a brilliant body of work and then was tied in knots by lawyers for about 20 years.
Name: Roy Scam
thanks.god.can.i.go.back.to.being.bitter.now?
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 10:26:49
Comments:
Stranger, Clas: I believe you're both correct about "Fortunate Son" ; you may use a title that's been used before. Didn't John Lennon write two hit song with the same title ("Woman")? -- And I say John Fogerty is still in his creative years; "Blue Moon Swamp" is a good CD with some great work on many different stringed instruments. Fogerty, Petty, and Mellencamp have all been accused of writing the same 3-chord song over and over and I like them all. Fogerty had a good reason for copying himself: He was severely ripped off on his first round of songs.
Stranger: You should check the exchange rate on kerpluntkins; you may have just given Clas 6:1 odds.
RS
Name: fezo
stuffed
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 09:55:16
Comments:
Wow, good to see that warm and fuzzy Thanksgiving after glow has filtered into the postings of all the GBers.
Name: Mutha Nature
i'm beginning to get mad
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 09:44:13
Comments:
Shaman: a pox upon you for coming in here with your childish attitude and upsetting my children. I have taken them all into the den and explained that I will zap you into the netherworld if you don't take your medication soon. I've also called your mother and told her what a big bully you are. She's expecting you, so run along now.
Clas: The Bruce Hornsby guestbook is just down the street, just because you like him doesn't mean everyone else has to, now get your head out of your ass and grow up before I cause an ice age in Sweden. c'mon git!
Name: TheStranger
you got to roll me
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 09:29:58
Comments:
clas,
i will bet you $500 versus a zillion swedish kerplotkins that john fogerty wrote fortunate son, one of the great songs of the early 70s. if you won't investigate who wrote it, you don't deserve it for your theme song. hornsby couldn't write a toilet paper ad. take a look at the notes on your third-rate honrsby cd. either he covered fogerty's song or he just stole the title and slapped it on one of his own sophomoric screechings.fogerty wrote & composed great music in his creative years. and yes, i agree fagen is burned out, but a burned out fagen is worth a battalion of hornsbys primed and ready. i enjoy kamakiriad.
my theme song for today: the stones' tumbling dice. but this may change on other days, depending on how the dice roll.
Name: John
living in america
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 05:47:12
Comments:
Clas, Do you have Thanksgiving in Sweden? In America I thank God eveyday that I'm not Swedish!
Name: I think
Clas is drinking again
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 05:25:59
Comments:
Clas- Donald Fagen on his death bed could still put out better music than Bruce Hornsby.
Name: Clas
@ work
Location: better him, him than me
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 01:37:44
Comments:
Stranger - John Fogerty? No man, not this one. This "Forunate Son" is written by B Hornsby and is one of the best songs I've heard in years (and that's including Fagen's lame "Kamakiriad" also including Fagen's overgrown childs sci fi lyrics).
And John Fogerty? He's doing one song over and over again. And I might add that I'm a little tired of the three chords he knows.
Name: Peter's Cellars
savingthegoodstuff
Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 at 00:55:14
Comments:
I can't speak for anyone involved in the "new one" and that's the way I like it. After all, I'm planning on spending less than twenty bucks for whatever it is so I'm leaving all the grunt work to the "stars" and the less I know the more likely I am to keep "whatever it is" loaded in that little black box in my trunk rather than trade it off for the eels or something really nova-fuckin'-scotia like primitive radio gods or even the latest from advanced high-gain titans before I even give it a chance. Dig? Now go fly around santa fe ringing a triangle and remember a goose consistently delivers a far more painful bight when it smells walmart.
Garbage In / Garbage OutPeter
Name: :9
~
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 at 22:20:32
Comments:
Shaman- This is the first Thanksgiving in years your not taking advise from a cd salesman. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm not thankful to your mother for giving birth to you.
Name: rawflame
swerve@one.net
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 at 21:11:20
Comments:
The DAN CRUISE would be absolutely devine! When the cold winds blow I'd like to be where the dahlias bloom! ORGANIZE!
Name: Shaman
In your mind you know I'm right
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 at 17:38:46
Comments:
This was the first Thankgsiving in many years in which I no longer held out hope for a new Steely Dan CD and tour. So I buried myself in turkey dressing and pumpkin pie with whipcream. If I can take it, so must you. Dare to lose hope, I tell you. Find peace. Join me in my bereavement for a great band set upon by the succubus of money and fame and sucked dry of creative juices. Please, no Lewinsky jokes.
Name: TheStranger
she's got a touch of tuesday weld
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 at 17:25:08
Comments:
clas,
fortunate son, a great theme song, was first recorded by credence clearwater revival & composed by lead singer john fogerty. if hornsby could write a song like that i'd be a fan too.i think shaman speaks truly but he could use a breath mint. maybe 2.
Name: Mr. Whipple
aislethree
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 at 17:10:48
Comments:
Did I miss a charmin squeezer?!
Name: Charmin
Oye! Don't squeeze so hard!
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 at 08:40:24
Comments:
Becker: So how does the final product sound?
Fagen: It's OK {head down]
Becker: What's wrong now? I've got Wa;t-dog waiting in the golf cart.
Fagen: It's this Hornsby album! Every piano run is perfect!...and it was just album of the month in Stereo Review...it will garner Grammys for sure.
Becker: So?
Fagen: It's no use. Let's seal the shelter underground and go home. Where's the Master?
Becker: I sent some guy named Q over to the WB with it...I'll get him on the cell phone. I'm sure it's not too late (to be continued...)
Name: Reno
Dirkleer@earthlink.net
Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 at 05:22:22
Comments:
Greetings - victims of laughing chance,
Fuck the Doomed
Name: Boring Bruce
@work
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 at 04:29:31
Comments:
Yeah Clas, but remember, Bruce Hornsby never was and never will be now.
Name: guess who
@finished?just hit the reverse button!
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 at 03:06:00
Comments:
Hello fellow STEELY DAN LOVERS!!! These guys are the BEST!!!
Now I mean that, don't get any funny ideas, Clas. I marvel
at how really good they really are. These days are kind of
magical for me and I shall always remember them. I would
like to add, whenever I felt down, these friends of mine,
always pulled me through it and for that I give my very
sincere THANKS. The rest of you guys have to know what I'm
talkin' about. You know, no matter what was going on in your
lifes, you could always put some dan on and everything was
better. Thank you so very much for being there guys, you
might think it's just music, but it's so much more.
Have a great Thanksgiving, everyone.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 at 01:21:16
Comments:
My theme song is "Fortunate Son", Bruce Hornsby.
Shaman is right in a way, Steely Dan is done. They will never be "today" anymore. Never more reflecting the zeitgeist. Sad but true.
Name: mr.whatever
dontpanicitsorg@nic
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 23:10:53
Comments:
the short one was playing with a drawing program tonight. It has sound effects. the live version of bodhisattva from a compilation is playing and i am hearing all these sounds i've never heard before, which is not so unusual... but i peek into the office to see the short one drawing and eeping and ooping in time to bodhisattva.
i think he just had his first dan moment. shucks.
Name: Mitch
Don`t Panic On The Titanic
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 21:06:38
Comments:
Shaman: Great job on getting the GB to panic. I haven`t seen this kind of response since the Pychotic Minstreel was rambling on. You base your opinion on a tip from a employee. You are a complete fuckin moron, but thats cool, I dug the panic session.
Name: Lester
the nightfly
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 19:48:35
Comments:
anyone want to chat tonight I'll be there at 11 pm eastern!
Name: Rose Darling
@gobble.gobble.munch.munch.step onto scale.read figure.smash.scale.to.bits
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 15:29:59
Comments:
Eviva:
I'm gonna break with tradition here and have to insist that you the guest of honor, select the time and date for your virtual shower in the chat room. I can't make a decision. It's most important that you are there and whoever else can make it, will or won't, so email me the info and I shall broadcast it here and pretend like I came up the invitation? Okay? No one will know.Myra Eyefull:
My theme songs, without much deliberation, pretty much have always been Dan songs "Any World" and "My Old School."
Billy Joel's "The Stranger" and "Honesty" could work too. I could go on... but those will do for now.fezo: You gotta post more often, dude, or I get the shakes.
David de Florida:
Don't know why you can't send the pics. Try again? Just think, the floating Danfest could be a great episode of the Love Boat.Shaman:
I don't believe in shamans, or anything said by anyone working in a retail cd store. Point to any cd and ask the "saleszoid" (for lack of gender) "what do you think of that?" and if it's a release more than, say, six months old, they answer " that's finished ! Here is the latest cd by Boys-2-Snoopy-Kitty-Dogg-Eat- Dogg-Cauliflower-Heads-Men-Without-A-Clue, isn't it *JUST*
great !" Point to a cassette and the saleszoid will hand you a bottle of Geritol and a package of Depends to go with it.
P.S. Did you mean "thanatological blasphemers?"Regarding Turkey Day:
Unsolicited and unanticipated, a vision of true musical turkey-ness came to mind today, out of nowhere. Amongst the "closet" musical tastes aired here in the GB recently, why did no one mention this Truly Talented Trio of seventies' kitsch, Tony Orlando and Dawn? Like the ebola virus, unawares the lyrics of "Knock Three Times" stealthily crept into my unconscious and took me by surprise today. Nonetheless, my foot tapped.Have a Happy Thanksgiving All !!!
Name: Geena
On the road again
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 14:51:25
Comments:
Hi Everyone!
I've got a busy few days ahead of me, so I will not be lurking, posting or chatting (unless I find a computer somewhere and I doubt there are cyber cafes in booneyville). Going up to New Hamster to visit the inlaws, then high school reunion on Saturday into Sunday. See y'all Monday!
Happy Thanksgiving!
Name: Shaman
Think I'm just whistling Dixie?
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 13:31:55
Comments:
Listen, you thanatopical blasphemers who dare to worship a corpse of a band. What's done is done. The word is here now, conveyed firmly by the sacred CD sales oracle. We must obey. Do you really think Fagen and Becker want your unholy band of fixated zombies hanging around another 18 years to remind them of their infertility? Disband. Be gone with you.
Name: RubyBaby
sp@rkle of your china
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 13:28:19
Comments:
2 years ago, almost to the day, the best I could do was to have a happy, crappy Thanksgiving. I shared about that on this gb, cause I felt safe here. Things have improved for me (thank You, God!) but I will always remember the very cool phone call I received from someone here that day. I give thanks for you, baby...Myra: I saw that Ally McBeal! I wish I could catch it more often. If memory serves me, she's supposed to have a theme song that will keep her jazzed. My theme song changes from time to time, but one always comes back to me and has since the first time I heard it. It's here now - it's Bodhisattva! I even have a little movie that plays in my head for that.
Take me by the hand!!
Happy Thanksgiving with Love on the side,
rb
Name: Freakin P. R.
We've only just begun...
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 13:00:30
Comments:
Pooper Scooper: My conacts down here in south of the border, tells me Donald has been saved by the mormons. Yep, he's a new man. He also tells me he's back, and he's kicking ass and taking names so watch it, buddy. I bought a CD just the other day. The salesman was a fag. You can't trust those salesmen.
Name: Scoop
@academy award winners!
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 12:42:34
Comments:
I regret to inform you, but Steely Dan is finished. Upon
researching newly discovered material, it is quite apparent
that Mr. Fagen seems to be a little forgetful of the
standard lyrics, re-otis,(pause..er..a..cause for serious
laughter here!). My theory is that there was a malfunction
to his computer generated graphics that scroll "inside"
his glasses. It's just a theory, mind you. Mr. Becker has
taken on alot of the vocal parts lately, with perfection,
I might add. Maybe they know something we don't.
Name: Bill Clinton
waiting for my internal reward
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 12:08:02
Comments:
How do you define "done?'
Name: Shaman
Hear my testament
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 11:41:07
Comments:
Your questions are appropriate. The CD store salesman's words were a bolt from the heavens. He knew. It was no accident he was working the night shift when I entered. It was all for a purpose. The message was meant for me so I would tell you. Steely Dan is done, he said. At first the words hung heavy on my heart, but now that I transmit this truth to others a great weight has been lifted off my sandaled feet and they were really killing me. Think about it. When we enter a CD store, it's a place without hope. No new Steely Dan albums. Maybe they'll rearrange some old songs into new collections or perform some other razzle-dazzle retail scam, but the band is finished. Tomorrow I shall buy a set of golf clubs and rejoin the world. I hope my garments are appropriate. Perhaps I shall also join the Jaycees and the Rotary. Do Likewise. Steely Dan is done.
Name: Frank Rizzo
$$
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 11:18:17
Comments:
Eliot- There is a $100 admission fee to join.Send check or Money order to:
Frank Rizzo
PO box 56754
Portland, OR. 56434
Name: JOker
1.more.thing
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 11:15:30
Comments:
SHAMAN: Perhaps the general message was truncated a bit....
instead of "steely dan is finished", perhaps the message was originally, "steely dan is finished with recording their long awaited studio album, a sound strong enough (to quote Donald 'Duck' Dunn) to turn goat piss into gasoline."
BTW, I got back from off the mountain (circuit city) - the gods say Manilow has at least 2 more albums left. then comes another 'Greatest Hits'.......and there's a sale on car audio equipment thru Saturday.
Name: joKER
can.you.tell.i'm.waiting.4.turkey
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 11:08:30
Comments:
SHAMAN:
I don't curse you, but perhaps if you could give us more insight to this CD salesperson where you get your "truths".....does this person just work the counter, or does he/she (how do you apply gender to a deity?) appear "on the salesfloor", where you found him/her/it....or what?I'm mystified with these truths about our favorite duo, here: this oracle's powers that you've chosen to bear to light - does it know about rock only, or does it give truths about our favorite country/western artists as well? What about the classical music section? And does it buy back used CDs as well? You know, that's the true sign that you're a smart shaman - no sense dealing with higher powers who won't give you at least store credit on your unwanted CDs.......
Name: Roy.Scam
thinner.than.tomorrow
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 11:06:39
Comments:
Rose D: You're just too good to be true. I do the Frankie Valli / Mickey Mouse voice for weddings and Bar Mitzvahs; I'll throw in Donald Duck singing "Down In the Bottom" for free.
Midnite C: My first concert (warning: some of you may get dizzy from going back this far) was Chad Stewart & Jeremy Clyde somewhere in Chicago circa 65. I don't remember the ticket price but I probably griped about it. Then Clyde didn't show up, so my first real concert was The Lovin' Spoonful & The Association at Champagne , Ill.
Doc Mu: Another good retro-swing artist is Colin James (sp?) Good stuff. -- I would suggest Laura Nyro for your SD museum of brilliant & meticulous musicians. Her basic piano style was gospel but she expanded it with sheer inventiveness to something unique.
Myra: You were singing when I first laid eyes on you. I guess that song you were singing has been my theme ever since.
Happy Thanksgiving fellow Danophiles; may you remain far from the twisted reach of crazy sorrow.
RS
Name: DrMu
the age of information is not the age of logic
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 10:59:28
Comments:
Shaman: We, in general, don't curse you, but are questioning your your source and information. Is your source more credible that Pete Fogel?...some guy who sells CDs in a store who happens to be a fan??? If, say, your source was Tom Scott or Roger Nichols, then the news would be gospel. The best thing you have going for your argument is the last 18 years, which is plenty strong but that was not the basis for your argument.
Name: TheStranger
roll out your brown teeth
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 10:53:55
Comments:
shaman,
get thee hence. and bathe. maybe you'll feel better. surely you'll smell better.
Name: Shaman
A cry from the heavens
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 10:42:53
Comments:
I insult no one and yet you curse me. Throughout the history of mankind, this has been the fate of those who must speak the truth. Steely Dan is finished. Accept it and go on with your lives. Take up golf maybe. As for my punctuation, the - was there because that was the signed name of one of my detractors. I bless you all despite your curses. That' my job. It's a wretched job and the pay stinks, but there it is.
Name: Eliot Aitken
eliot@aitken21.freeserve.co.uk
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 10:19:23
Comments:
I am a really big Steely Dan fan and want to join
Name: David in the Florida Room
dmoore113@aol.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 09:02:27
Comments:
RoseDarling, Please check your e-mail....
Hey Dan Fans, I was chatiing with RoseDarling and Geena the other night and we stumbled upon an Idea....How about a "Danfest at Sea" ?? Book a cruise and maybe get Elliott Randall and St Al and who knows who to join us for a Dan Cruise.
David
Name: joKer
my.life.is.a.sitcom
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 08:26:59
Comments:
current theme song:
"How To Play Your Internal Organs Overnight"
by Stereolab[can't imagine anyone's ever heard of it except for CountZero: where are you, mang]
Name: fezo
canuhearmywingsbeating
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 08:18:48
Comments:
my theme song: Dazed and Confused
best advice i've received lately at local music shop: there's a two-for-one sale at Chick Fillet
Name: DrMu
when there wasn't even any Dollywood
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 07:36:29
Comments:
Saw Ted Templeman's name (producer of Doobies) on the back of one of those jump-swing bands - Royal Crown Revue. I think they're from LA and have been around awhile. RCR latest did have a nice Cab Calloway-type groove.
Shaman - There's this gap-toothed check-out guy at the Palastine, Texas Walmart about 85 miles away who I know has the scoop. He told me that he was a 'nam Vet and his wife loved Steely Dan. Is there gas in the car?
Name: Myra Eyefull
gooble-gooble
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 07:03:04
Comments:
If any of you are faithfull watchers of Ally McBeal, you know that her therapist suggested that she come up with a theme song that represented her and helped to lift her spirits. The only song that I can think that fits me is "I'm a bitch" since it encompasses my many moods that fluctuates from minute to minute.(poor RoyScam, he never knows if he should duck from flying objects or if it is safe to give me a hug)
Anyway, I was curious as to what others would pick for their theme song. Good luck and use it often!Happy turkey day,
Myra
Name: jokEr
price.check.in.speakers
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 06:35:08
Comments:
SHAMAN:
wait - you holy dudes can now receive enlightenment from CD salesmen? Well, I'm being facetious, obviously: not just ANY CD salesman.....we gotta have a "Big DanFan" give you the Big Green Light on D+W's fate.
Shit, I gotta wrap this up: gotta get right down to Circuit City, needs to know the truth about Barry Manilow and fast....!
{are you SURE he was a big fan? Did he show you his decoder ring?]
.joker.
Name: Clas
in his always present-chair
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 01:46:47
Comments:
Howdy Bruce, gimme fav Bruce, congrats Bruce, hugs to you and yours Bruce, kiss my sternum Bruce, hey now, what's that you're saying Bruce? Wait a minute Bruce...
Name: Bruce Hornsby
underwesternthighs
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 at 00:27:27
Comments:
Clas,
No happy birthday wishes for your favorite poetry man? I just turned 44 and could really use a hug right now...
Hey, is it true Jackson Browne is contributing a tune to the Dan Fan CD? If so, count me in too. I have all his bootlegs!
Still Growin',
Big Bad Bruce
Name: Grammer Moses
the world according to carp*
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 at 22:25:55
Comments:
Shaman--
>yes -, it's painful to see...(blah, blah, blah)
I don't believe it was necessary to use both a dash and a comma in this sentence. But you are obviously no brain surgeon.
*carp (kãrp) v.i. To find fault unreasonably; complain; cavil.
Name: ..
v
Location: ,
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 at 22:11:48
Comments:
Shaman- I'd like to stick a fork in your head.
Name: Shaman
broadcasting the real stuff
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 at 21:17:23
Comments:
yes -, it's painful to see what you know is true all spelled out. i discovered the truth last week. salesman in cd store told me, and he was a fan. stick a fork in steely dan, he said. they're done. years and years done.
Name: oleander
counting down once again
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 at 20:55:07
Comments:
Yo Eviva! When's the shower?
Clas--I get it! A whole Steely Nightmare, not a Moment.
Duke--Crater Lake. I like that.
Zeke--Carnegie Hall. In tuxes.
lisa--which weekend? Or both? How could I pass up the Doobies, or a reasonable facsimile thereof?
Rose--forgot: the Golden Razor is a great & very useful image.
DFS--Um, sorry to be so negative your first time out, but I just responded in kind. Don't give up.
ed b--I'm listening to the new CTE right now, and I think it sounds REALLY GREAT, but I thought that about the old one. I could talk myself into hearing more crispness, "punch and bleed," but I'd be making it up. Mine are not an audiophile's ears. I actually bought it for the liner notes. (Just KIDDING, Kinky!)
Speaking of which, here's an excerpt (wings of legal harpies beating in the distance):
"What about that tape loop we used for 'Show Biz Kids'? Was that the stroke of genius we originally thought it was, or just another horrible mistake?
"As a matter of fact, the tape loop itself, mistake or no, was quite a tricky bit of business to put into practice. We were using four inch tape in those days, running at 180 ips, and to make a thirty-two bar loop at that tempo required the construction of a special apparatus to accommodate the 1200 plus feet of tape, which ran from one end of Studio A to the other, out the fucking door into the hall, in the door into Ed Michel's space jazz production headquarters, back out into the hall, up the stairs and into the inner sanctum of studio manager Dick 'Frosty' La Palm, down through the airshaft into the echo chamber of Studio B, back out into the reception area where Spooky, our favorite receptionist, was ordering grilled cheese and bacon sandwiches all around, into the shop where Ken Klinger sat hunched over his overloaded workbench, where it met up with a servostatic accelerometer mounted on a turbodiesel forklift idler wheel...
"All right. Two inch tape, 30 ips, four bars, 30 feet, out into the hall and back, and that's all."
Name: EvivaLaughs
whole.lotta.shaking.going.on
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 at 18:37:36
Comments:
Rose: Yep, I'm here--check in every once in a while and been on "read-only" lately...I'm going mad with "the plans" but it's tons of fun too. To answer the very old query about Metheny: our local so-called jazz-only station has a closet DanFan for a DJ and he plays a lot of Dan...in between that I hear much of Mr. Metheny and I'm hooked! Now I have most of his albums--listening to the radio is SO expensive :D! (Turned out El Future Groomo was a Metheny fan too!)
Ruby: Boy, I love your stories!!...some people out there in cyberspace might kill for your so-called "boring life!" :)
Debra: Cool--another twenty-something! Ain't it frustrating when none of your friends really "gets it?" Well, sit right down and make yourself at home. Welcome to the GB!
Geena: Glad you still have a job, anyway! How did you avoid the suits finding out who did it when there were only two of you left?!
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL!!
Name: Babylon Suster
too tired
Location: somewhere in Central San Diego,
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 at 17:26:05
Comments:
It was so nice to talk with JosieDanfan, Lester, and honorable mention for Sociable Hermit, especially.
The store has been busy, gearing up for the holidays (buy your "Citizen Steely Dan" gifts now!!), but I wanted to wish all the Dan-sters a happy Thanksgiving. I love the stories about first concerts & prices!!!
Name: -
-
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 at 13:39:40
Comments:
Shaman-- GO FUCK YOURSELF!!
Name: Shaman
the truth you don't want to hear
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 at 12:36:06
Comments:
There is nothing more to say about steely dan. either they release another record, which i doubt, or we go on about our lives.
Name: YGK
..
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 at 12:26:27
Comments:
Geena: Brooklyn? Where? I have been called the Mayor of Park Slope...oh, the things I could show you!
ygk
Name: Kjetil Hoem
hoem@ikke.no
Norway
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 at 05:01:17
Comments:
Bbm7 Cm7 D#13
Drive west on sunset, to the seaC#maj9 G#13 F#6 Bbm7
Turn that jungle music down, just until we're out of town
Babylon Sister really shake!Anybody got comments on my chords, mail me, please.
/Kjetil
Name: Yosemite Dan
@NOW,that's some looney TUNES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 at 01:54:50
Comments:
WOW, LOOK AT ME, ON TOP OF LISA & GEENA!!! Don't toy with
me you saucy wenches. Just kiddin' dolls, don't get mad,
get EVEN! LIVE IS F%#KING FANTASTIC!!!!! I have to go now,
I'll be taking a drive to MT. DIABLO with a case of BIC
LIGHTERS!!! OUTTA F%#KING SIGHT!!!WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Name: lisa
presto fry d@ddy
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 at 23:17:32
Comments:
geena: ellie enjoyed chatting with you immensely...however, you set a bad example for her by reciting from "jumpin' geena's party pamphlet"...i knew there was trouble when i caught the little missy lip syncing to rufus featuring chaka kahn, while wearing white go-go boots.
now she wants a tattoo...
clas: please buy me a gift in amsterdam.
danboree '99: who's planning to attend the next "gathering of the loyals" in new orleans? samantha and i reserved our rooms tonight and we found quite a few places were already booked...btw, the dates for the jazz fest are april 23rd thru may 2nd...here is the url for evening concerts:
http://www.neworleans.com/jazz/nightshows.html
Name: Geena
I recall when I was small
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 at 19:18:26
Comments:
RubyBaby: What a great concert story! I would have done the same thing! I wonder where Blondie is now?
I saw Elton John in the seventies during his flamboyant dress stage. He came out dressed like a peacock and huge glitter glasses. I went to the concert with my then boyfriend Jason Bernstein and his friend Bobby Manister, both had criminal minds even at the very young age of 16. Jason took us around to the back of the Boston Garden, asked Bobby and I for $10 each and we watched him walk over to a cop and come back with 3 ticket stubs. We then climbed the fire escape stairs for what seemed forever and entered a small door where we were greeted by another cop who let us in the concert hall. The only problem was these were tickets from a past concert and we had to find empty seats. After finding many seats and being thrown out of them by the ushers, we finally found wonderful seats side stage in the second balcony and had a perfect view of Elton John. Bobby had a column in his face the entire evening.
Zeke: For me the best place is Great Woods in Mansfield, MA. early spring or fall. It's a small outdoor venue and the sound is great! If you happen to get seats in the first 10-20 rows, you'll have the best view of Messrs. Fagen and Becker. If I had to travel to see my gods, I would love to see them at Red Rocks in Colorado.
Do you have my email address?YGK: I'll take you up on your offer and let you be my personal tourguide. non-tourist spots please! I'll probably stay with my aunt in Brooklyn, if she drives me nuts, I'll be in a hotel.
JosieDanFan: Does Sociable Hermit have a phone in his cave too?
As we say here, now that you have a car, you're married to it. Take good care of it, learn to change the oil, flat tires, and if still has a carburetor, i'll teach you how to start it when it stalls, or you could just get a AAA card and let them deal with it!
ellieMayhem (you know who you are), Lester, RoseDarling, Oleander and SEMB: had a wonderful time last night in chat, can't wait to "Do It Again". Ole, sorry you had PC problems, hope you have better luck next time. We missed you.rolling a fat doobie...
Name: November 22
Dealy Plaza
Location: Dallas,
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 at 15:25:58
Comments:
Why won`t the Government open up on this national tragedy ? It`s been 35 years and by now we can handle the truth. The Country was very innocent back then. Vietnam ,Watergate,Iran-Contra, and Zippergate has conditined the nation to being fucked over. 7O% of the public does not believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. Yes , there are a million different stories out there and I believe that the Goverenment knows the true one. It`s time to come clean and maybe we can start to think that these elected officials are acting on the behalf of the people. Mitch
Name: RubyBaby
someone s@ve my life tonight
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 at 14:12:59
Comments:
I wish I could say I saw Steely Dan first. But NOOOOoooo.
I think my first concert was Elton John at Capitol Center - mid 70s. My friend & I left our fantastic seats to find a set of great-looking twins we spotted on the floor. They were even wearing identical white overalls. (What were we THINKING?) Up close, we discovered they weren't any older than we were and about as exciting as a yawn. Then EJ came out again and we were stuck there on the floor, everyone jumping around. It was a mosh-pit down there! Then, a pair of giant hands lifted me up and before I could blink I was on the shoulders of a very tall gentleman. I didn't move a muscle, until he turned his head, looked up at me and smiled. He said, " You're safer up here! Go ahead and enjoy the show - I got ya!" So I did! The show rocked. Funeral For A Friend was smashing. Saturday Night was the encore. He put me down to rest his shoulders a couple of times. At the end, I said thank you and he just hugged me, kissed me, and said goodbye with his eyes. No names or anything. But he had the best long blond hair I've ever touched.
Blondie: XO
rb
Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 at 13:05:55
Comments:
Thanks for all the responses on first concerts....keep 'em coming!
We're taking off to visit the future in-laws for the holidays tomorrow morning so I just wanted to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving!!
Name: ed beatty
edbeatty@pe.net
Location: Temecula, ca
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 at 08:51:57
Comments:
The Gorge In George is the place to see Walter & Donald.
Does anyone have any opinions on the quality of the Becker & Fagen reissues from last week?Ed (patient) Beatty
Name: Zeke
I'm leavin' on a jet plane, don't know when I'll be back again...
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 at 07:17:42
Comments:
Geena: My work schedule has been unbelievable latley. My business is very seasonal and right now my plate is full. I do want to get in touch with the Count and will email you as soon as I can.
Minah: Got the mail. I'm sorry. I'll email you too. Hope everything worked out.
One question to all. Let's say the Dan tours soon. I want to see the Dan play in the best venue there is. In YOUR opinion, where is the greatest place to see the Dan? Consider all factors, climate, sound (very important), surroundings, everything. Give me your best shot.
Name: Joe M.
JGMutha@aol.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 at 07:05:25
Comments:
Midnight - Appreciate the KK pointer.
Dr. Mu - Re: Buckshot LeFongue - Gee, I was hoping you could make a recommendation. What I have heard appears to be sort of a jazz-funk-hip-hop hybrid.
Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, NY
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 at 06:25:23
Comments:
Geena: that sounds great! Let me know if you want a personal NYC Tourguide....we WON'T go to the tourist spots...
ygk
Name: Cl
@s
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 at 03:01:59
Comments:
lisa, you just saved my life.
Thanx for the New Orleans webaddress. I booked my flight April 29 - May 9. The Jazzfest is a week earlier, but there were no problem to re-book.
Rebook? Sneakers?
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 at 02:33:10
Comments:
Oleander; "That sure was a close one, but how was it a Steely moment?" Well, that beats me.
Third world man?
Drinking zombies from a cocoashell?
Got to make a getaway?
Let's get the hell out of here?
Name: Ming the Merciless
bwahhahahaha@!.net
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 at 00:46:39
Comments:
Semb,
Implying that 11 TOW's back cover art depicts Becker's "baseball bat" smashing the Kamakiriad's windshield is preposterous! One need only study the angled "striker" of the "whacker" AND the clearly legible script on the shaft to ascertain it is clearly a normal sized drumstick smashing the windshield of a very tiny car. Nothing more, nothing less.
Brenda or Bust,
Ming
Name: JosieDanFan
imacarownernow
Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 at 22:06:55
Comments:
Hello fellow Dan fans!
Lots of stuff happening lately.
I finally got a chance to talk to the outstanding Sociable Hermit. He's quite a guy. And also the lovely Babylon Sister..you rock sista friend!! ( P.S. Lester was just kidding about the phone thing..hehehe :o\)
I got my first car last night. It's a beater, what can I say, but damn it - I love the thing! I paid a small amout for a pretty good car. $500 for a good tranny, new altenator, new tires, power everything and a kick ass heater ( ya need it up here!! ) While test driving it I turned on the radio, and turned it to my favorite station and who should be on? Steely Dan. Do It Again was playing. I knew then this is the car for me. The best part is it came with a CD player so I can listen to my Steely CD's while I'm cruisin around..what could be better?Geena: Congrats (I think) on the job. I myself am changing jobs this Wednesday, but it's a welcome and long overdue change.
Deborah: WELCOME!! I myself am a 20-something DanFan. Do you find it's kind of rough being a Dan fan at a younger than most DanFans age? Only one of my friends has expressed an interest in Steely, that is of the same age range as I. Anyway please stick around..I think you might like it here. Most of the natives are friendly.
LESTER: Have you forgotten me? Did you lose my e-mail address?
Well folks, it's been fun, but I must go to bed and get ready for a big day tomorrow..see y'all later!
JDF
Name: Duke
deathbymisadventure
Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 at 22:06:33
Comments:
Oleander: You didn't. I was just trying to nip it in the bud and it worked! Meanwhile, I have submitted a brave, new slant to the William Tell story that will be appearing next season on Star Trek Voyager! Hint: Phasers on apple-coring.
My first concert? REO Speedwagon in 1974. $6.00. Gary Richrath burned the house down with "Ridin' the Storm Out". Tried to sneak back in my bedroom window and was grounded for a month!
Titles for the New One:
1. The New One
2. Here's One for Kinky
3. The Patch
4. Space Pants
5. The "Show Me" Album
6. More Mummies
7. Friggin' Lou
8. Blossoms in the Bio-Mass
9. Crater Lake
1. Manilow from Mizar-5
Yer Lounging Lung-Fish,Duke
Name: oleander
cut off in mid-ch
Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 at 20:13:41
Comments:
Fellow chatties--jeez! I finally get there when someone else is, and get sucked into the vortex of internet limbo! Another time, maybe.
DFS--Back off the Stranger, man. This is my street too.
Geena--congratulations, I think. Love the RIP! You tell 'em.
Pete--major thanx for the tunes. Hank Easton is scorchin'. PLEASE keep us posted on 1) the cd, AND 2) any possibility of being in the room during that performance video shoot!
Peg--thanx for the Surfer article! Delightful. My squeeze was a little nonplussed when he got it at work, since I forgot to tell him it was coming--he thought he'd gotten sucked into the vortex of Danfandom limbo by his proximity to me.
Duke--um, how did I distract you?
DecaDANt--Thanx. Submit stuff!
SteveV--Amen on your kudos to Tomas B. My many visits to his page have always turned up new & wonderful things, most recently a listen to "Fall of '92" for the first time.
Mu--OK, I know he may not fulfill exactly all your criteria, but Bob Dylan.
Clas--That sure was a close one, but how was it a Steely moment?
Luckless--OK, my priorities are askew, but no matter what they come out with, I'll get it. That's just the way it is.
Concerts.... let's see, other than the Mitchell Trio at the Cellar Door, it was probably Lovin' Spoonful at DAR Constitution Hall. Can't remember how much, or exactly what year. But from '68-'71, in Ann Arbor at a small club called Canterbury House, I saw tons of great acts for peanuts. Sat front row center (two feet away) for Neil Young, Doc Watson, Maria Muldaur, and many more.
Name: Guestbook Judge
@steelydan.court
Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 at 19:59:40
Comments:
Debra- Sorry, only 40 years or older please.
Name: Debra
swerve@one.net
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio USA
Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 at 19:27:20
Comments:
I love Steely Dan with a passion and would love to talk with other fans in their twenties. I'm wondering if there are other freaks in my age group? I guess I never get to the site in time for the chats, but will make the effort in the future.
Name: lisa
@ddress bookie
Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 at 18:44:31
Comments:
rosieD: http://www.neworleans.com/jazz/index.html
Name: Rose Darling
@ life is unreal
Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 at 16:16:30
Comments:
I don't remember what my first concert attended was, but I think it was Pink Floyd in the early or mid eighties. You could count all the live music shows I've been to on my two hands, I'm not a big concert-goer. Wish that I could see my favorite acts in small venues, as stadium level performances are so impersonal.
Quoting from the much maligned Sweet book anyway, despite any objections from the peanut gallery, I do relate to this quote attributed to Walter Becker regarding playing live shows:
"I don't want to meet the audience. You have a more direct and intimate relationship with someone who's sitting alone, listening to your records." p. 85Will someone please give me the website address for the New Orleans Jazzfest if you know it?
Geena:
Glad to hear you are still drawing an income. ROFL @ your reply to DFS. Especially about the backbone.
Thanks for sharing your similar thoughts about the GB and food shopping. Guess I'm not the only sentimental one here after all.Clas: re*lapse (noun)
1 : the act or an instance of backsliding, worsening, or subsiding2 : a RECURRENCE of symptoms of a disease after a period of improvement
(Isn't that album you mentioned by the Pink Blues?)
Stranger:
" it's getting very weird in vegas. i recommend it."
I like the way you talk.MCP:
Real stud puppy, aren't you? Or just a legend in your own mind? Women just drop like flies into your bed and you expect us to all believe this??? Still juggling the dating schedule these days?
Name: TheStranger
playing brubeck
Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 at 11:08:54
Comments:
just got back from vegas where i had to take care of some business and i find some little mama's boy named DanFanSupremo buzzing around my tail on this gb. which of course proves my point. see how brave he is behind his anonymity? you can bet he's the baddest bully in his ballet class.
incidentally, civilized DanFans, took a peek at the new bellagio, which is billed as the most luxurious casino ever built. but it's still vulgar as hell. which is why i kind of like it. some casino still on the drawing board is building a big eifel tower replica right on the strip down from a replica of the newyork skyline. it's getting very weird in vegas. i recommend it. now there's a spot for a Danfest. you eastcoasters have to struggle out of your cocoon. DanFanSupremo can bring his short-shorts and net stockings and ply his trade on a bigger street. when his feet are killing him, he can come in and join us for a shirley temple.
geena,
i enjoyed your story of the little departmental grave. up the ass of the ruling class. but lay off that disco. it'll rot your brain cells.
Name: David in the Florida Room
I'm Asking@?.net
Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 at 09:36:01
Comments:
Hi Everyone, Question......I've been to the Chat room and encountered someone named "Chinacat" on 4 different occasions...but that person remains silent and then leaves. Any clues? Is it something I said? which by the way was "Hello"
Just for the Record- I'm on EST. and check into Chat on monday and tuesday evenings as someone said "at the top of the hour" Hope to see somone there.
David
Name: Bloomin
soonerthanlater
Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 at 07:44:22
Comments:
my first concert. 1974
i was barely 14, a freshman, a newbie in the art club of a verysmall town's very small high school.
we travelled on a bus, about a hundred miles to chicago, where we saw frank zappa at the aragon ballroom in uptown. it was a night of firsts.
even if frank was alive in body, that could never happen now.
three or four weeks later, the choir had a field trip to chicago to see elton john and chicago, probably at the stadium... the choir director complained to security about the smokin behind us....
have no idea how much the tickets cost.... my parents paid for both.
Name: fezo
gointohitcharide
Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 at 05:33:13
Comments:
My first concert was in '77 or '78 in the boom town of Harrisonburg, Virginia. Somehow Boston and Sammy Hagar ended up playing at the local college there. Two memories of the evening have lingered . . .
Hagar was the opening act. No one had ever heard of him. His attempt to leave a lasting impression consisted of playing an instrument that looked like an electrified skateboard and saying "motherfucker" every ten seconds. This was not the path to fame and fortune in the Puritanical Shenandoah Valley.
Boston was great. Crowd brought 'em back for encore after encore. They apparently ran out of material and had to try some fresh stuff. Right before the fourth encore, the lead singer announced "We're going to play a new song for you, "Television Politician". It sucked. Very little applause. Band kinda slinked off the stage. Crowd wished they had stopped cheering after the third encore. In all the concerts I've been to since, I've never seen an encore song flop so.
Name: Clas
My first concert was
Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 at 04:43:44
Comments:
Blood Sweat & Tears, early 70's. With David Clayton-Thomas.
God damn it, that was good.Rose Darling: Isn't one of the best selling albums ever, Moody Blues's "Momentary relapses of the ear behind the dark side of the moon"?
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Sunday, November 22, 1998 at 04:25:37
Comments:
DanFanSupremo: Geena is a very goodlooking woman. We used to love each other, but today she looks the other way.
Rose Darling: what is "relapse"?
Cig-news:
I am still a no smoker.
MTV NEWS:
Heard a female group yesterday, forgot their name, the song they sang had samples from "The Fez"s intro.
STEELY DAN MOMENT:
In the midst of the 70s, 1976 I think, me and my brother went to Gambia on vaccation. For one week, over christmas and new years eve. We got really loaded on the flight down and when we landed we didn't notice that the "airport" was a savann and the passcontrol was a man sitting at table under an Acaciatree (we were one of the first charter tourists there).
After checking out the bungalow we felt for a little party. We took a scary cab to the nearest "town", Banjul. I remember the driver cursing the chickens, goats and cows that lived on the road.
Well, we jumped of the cab "downtown". I spotted a man standing in the middle of a junction, waving with his arms.
I forwarded him as I believed he had something to sell. I asked:
- Hi dude, got some grass to me?
- What? Hey now, what's that you're saying?
- Do you have some grass? I tried to whisper and scream at the same time.
- You are asking me, a traffic-policeofficer in the city of Banjul if I have grass? I'm sorry, I have to take you to the station.
Through my hazy drunkness I began to realize that I was in deep trouble, and it was the first night of the day I sat foot on the African continent. So I tried:
- Oh no mister policeofficer. I asked if you had a beer! (I tried to pronunce"a beer" so it sounded like "grass" which was quite easy, I was so drunk I could hardly stay upright).
I don't remember how I got out of that mess, I woke up four days later in the bungalow behind the mosqiuto-net, with a hangover that was craving a drink ASAP. I checked my pockets only to find my money gone. So was my brother. To make a long story short - I traded my jacket for cocoswine (a very rare local brand), and on the flight home I had to ask the stewardess for some tranquilizers.
Name: Geena
Everybody dance!! clap your hands...
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 21:07:16
Comments:
Rose Darling: I desperately need a vacation after a week of watching a company run massacre before my eyes, I'm still employed, thanks to Medicare/Feds account which saved my ass. I celebrated last night with the rest of the survivors and a few martini's. My entire department was wiped out, so last night before I left work, my manager and I (yes, can you believe it?) took some masking tape and taped an outline of a gravestone on the floor about 4 feet by 3 and then taped the initials of my department, R.I.P and Thursday's date. Let the suits figure out who did it.
I have to do that rotten chore of food shopping also, and it seems everytime I enter the grocery store, a Steely Dan song is playing. I also can't help humming along (sometimes I want to sing out loud!) and thinking of the Guestbook, sometimes smiling to myself when I think of some of the funny things I read here. So what if people think I'm wierd, I live in the city, wierdness is a common sight here. I think I'll ask the store manager next week if I can make a few requests.
Countziro is doing fine, he's buying a computer in a few weeks and will be back to annoy us soon.
Babylon Sister: My first free concert was Aerosmith who played with an unknown band at the time called Genesis. They played at Suffolk Downs race track the day of a heavy rainstorm. I remember the mud very well, but my very first concert in an arena setting was the Doobie Brothers/Badfinger/Jo Jo Gunn. We paid about $5.50 (babysitting money)for seats 20 rows back in the middle of the now defunct Boston Garden. I was about 15, my mother had no idea where I was (of course, if I asked her, she wouldn't let me go) and was not too pleased when I returned home only to find my father sitting on the front steps waiting to kick my butt. Grounded was the operative word for the next few weeks.
DanFanSupremo: How can you insult my friend, The Stranger? He has a right to express his opinion. And why would a panty sale at K-mart interest you?
You wanna know what I look like? I'm all woman, 5'7", 5'10" in my leather work boots, long blonde hair, green penetrating eyes, seductive, pouty lips, long silky legs with back that will make you cry "Mamma", oh and I carry a whip. If you don't believe me, ask Lisa. Welcome to the guestbook, please enjoy your stay here and I hope you have a backbone left after you meet Kinky.Big Fan: Do you think the Pats will really relocate to Hartford? tis a damn shame if this happens. I think Kraft is pulling another sneaky, greedy move.
Stranger: I'm apologizing in advance in case your ESP happens to be kicking in, but I listened to 3 hours of disco last night, "burn baby burn"....
RubyBaby: I have no idea what is so wonderful about the Outback. I went once to see what all the hubbub was about and left with food poisoning. Your kids have great taste in music, thanks Mom!YGK: Yes, I will definitely look you up, do you mind a few of my girlfriends tagging along? We'll bring extra crystals.
Zeke: Da Count and his brother will be in New Orleans next Friday. He wants to meet you for a drink at the Old Absinthe or whatever cool place you know, and also wants your email addy to get in touch with you.
going out to buy CPR tomorrow. Did anyone catch Todd the God on Letterman last night? I turned it on to catch Drew Barrymore who was showing way too much underwear. Todd was Paul Schaeffer's guest musician, he had a skunk stripe on the side of his head and was also wearing a black skirt. yes, skirt, no typo here. I liked the stripe, but what gives with the skirt?Prozac wearing off....bye for now...
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Cool Night in the Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 19:34:24
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!!
As I promised, the story of when I got a new Steely Dan album in 1977, and lost three girlfriends in one day!!!
I had heard about the release of "Aja" and decided I would go buy it, as I have always had great luck and love for listening to Mr. Becker and Mr. Fagen's music and lyrics. The album cover picture was sensuous and intriguing from my experience with my Filipina "Hospitality Girls" in the Philippines.
I had a definite schedule, which was a six-day work week, although only 1/2 day on Saturdays. My friend, "Fred", had invited me over for a party to listen to my album and drink some gin and tonic (and, he always knew I only was a beer Man!!!)---whew!!! I was dating several women at-the-time, and had a schedule where three of the BEST ones were scheduled as follows: a good sexual all-around partner at 7:00 p.m. every night----kisses and hugs, and off to another at 9:00 p.m.; the "oral" delight of Oklahoma----probably still is!! And, my midnight date was usually the one I spent the night with, often going to sleep with the Steely Dan albums on----well, I did NOT KNOW these women knew "Fred", or each other. So, I went with my "7:00 p.m." lady over to "Fred's", and was very surprised to find "Oral Delight"; and, "Midnight Delight" at "Fred's" party.
I was naturally uncomfortable, yet decided to put on the "Aja" album. I was feeling GREAT with "Fred's" gin & tonic mixtures, along with some other of the mind-altering substances I did at that time----seems like "Fred" always thought that the THC content of cannabis sativa was enhanced by planting it under the ground, and leaving it for over a year!!!
All-of-the-girls "knew I loved Steely Dan", and would often play their music while we were engaged in sexual activities. They started talking among each other, and they listened to "Aja", knew of my "Filipina Hospitality Girl" club management and recruiting experiences, and I thought all-was-"A-OK"!!!
As the music played----we played the album probably three or four times, "Black Cow" was playing, and I realized "they" finally had talked enough to realize I was making love with all-of-them, although I was never asked by any of them as to whether or not I even "had another one"!!!! So, of course, I did not lie, and they found out about my "schedule"---- exchanged information about me, and their sexual experiences (and Steely Dan music listening experiences) with each other.
I found myself leaving "Fred's" party, and staggering home to "My All Too Mobile Home" which was about two blocks from "Fred's" house.
Yes, I took my "Aja" album home with me that night, and found a young lady at the party who just happened to be my next-door neighbor, and "Fred's" sister-in-law, who kinda sorta felt sorry for me, and helped walk-me-home. Anyway, we went to my house, listened to "Aja" and had a wonderful and intense sexual experience of a night (most memorable, as the "Aja" album was).
And, "Aja" always brings back memories of "Fred", the lost women, and gained woman-----and is still my favorite album. And, "how convenient" to have such a GREAT next door neighbor!!
I suppose the point of this story is that, I still listen to the "Aja" album, and "Deacon Blues" is my favorite Steely Dan song, while I can't even remember any of those three ladies' names.
Guess you just had to have been there and experienced it for it to be meaningful----but, memorable to me.Saludos!!!
Michael
; )
Name: Babylon Sister
not tonight, dear
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 19:32:11
Comments:
Hey Gang,
What's wrong with the chat room? The log-in space comes up blank on the screen--what's up, anybody?????
Name: lisa
@trophy
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 19:31:53
Comments:
midnite cruiser: hmmmmmm, my first concert...now i'll have to go digging around in my long term memory (you know, the tiny area pot smoking didn't manage to erase)...guess i should have been more sentimental and kept the ticket stubs.
it was the summer of '76 (or '77)...heart's "dreamboat annie" tour with the sanford & townsend band as opening act...i was more excited about seeing s.t.b. because, as roy.scam can confirm, they rocked! i was only aware of their one album "smoke from a distant fire" until i did an amg search...i found they made 3 albums, the second "duo-glide" featured an amazing danesque collection of musicians: steve cropper, mike baird, david paich, jeff pocaro, bill payne and paul barrere...is anyone familiar with this recording?
as far as the ticket price...even though i was only 11, i traded 2 joints for admission...the rule of supply and demand has never eluded me, and i remember with pride the exploits of myself as a young hooligan.
wiping a nostalgic tear from my eye...
Name: Rose Darlings Boss
@work
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 18:36:28
Comments:
Rose Darling-- It's time for a little vacation, Don't ya think?
Name: Rose Darling
@this keyboard ain't level
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 17:51:10
Comments:
Dan moment today:
Whilst doing my most un-favorite thing in the world (grocery shopping) at the local Publix, "Time Out of Mind" started playing overhead. As I love that song anyway, I hummed along helplessly (it's hard for me to not sing along with songs I know.) But a big grin spread over my face as I thought of all you cyber entities here at Club Saint Al's, and I smiled mostly because you all come to mind so often between posting.
What a microcosm is this place. Will Geena get to keep her job? When will Kinky sneak attack another unsuspecting victim with his next post? What happened to countzero? Where is the blushing bride to be, Eviva? When will Sociable Hermit tell another tale from the cave? When am I actually going to buy and listen to some music that someone recommends here? Will Clas suffer a Sternum Agony relapse? How the heck are you, ruby? When is Michael C. Packard going to admit to having boring moments in his life? Will Stranger finally move to a cave next to Hermit in disgust with a society filled with Golden Razor Award musical tastes ? And on and on...Call me crazy, but I'm not sitting around, chewing off my nails, waiting for the next recording from our Elusive Heroes. There's enough entertainment here in the meanwhile...
P.S. After the Dan song in Publix, another fine Michael McDonald moment followed when my favorite Doobie Brothers' song " It Keeps You Runnin' " played next.
Double P.S. I'll be checking into the chat room every fifteen minutes or so until ? should anyone bother to check around 9:00 p.m. Eastern time tonite.
Name: Rose Darling
@The Observatory
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 17:25:34
Comments:
Name: Babylon Sister
maybe, baby
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 12:08:52
Comments:
Hey, Midnite Cruiser,
My favorite hobbie is a scrapbook I keep with all my ticket stubs in it, stubs from all the fun things I've done along with flyers from the various shows, etc. It's fun to look back and remember the shows, and where your life was at at the time, and the friends you were with. The first concert I ever saw was Alice Cooper at the Los Angeles Forum in '73, I think. I was 13-- "Cold, Cold Ethel", and the fake hanging were the highlights. I always get a good chuckle when listening to the album "Three Dog Night-'Live At The Forum'"-- when one of the band members says to people not being able to hear well in the back rows, "See, you shoulda bought the $5.50 tickets up front!!"-- GEEZ--$5.50!!!!! We'll never see those days again!!Hi Hermit.......... ;^)
Name: Midnite Cruiser
still@it
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 11:18:43
Comments:
found this article on Kenny Kirkland's death.
http://www.livedaily.com/archive/1998/9811/wk3/Former_Sting_And_Marsalis.html
Name: Midnite Cruiser
sameasiteverwas
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 10:32:59
Comments:
Joe M....I couldn't stand it any longer so I went ahead and ordered the Les Dudek online from the aforementioned site. First thing I've actually ordered using the computer. It's gonna be nice to hear Jeff Porcaro play again on some cuts I've never heard. Thanks again for the tip on the cd!
Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 09:44:16
Comments:
Joe M. & Babylon Sister....thanks for the replies on Les Dudek....found this page with info on the "Deeper Shades Of Blues" album from '94 and a nice Real Audio clip of an entire song off of it. Gonna see if my friend who owns a local music store can order it for me.
http://www.musicdiscoveries.com/hits/geosyn/geosyn100.html
Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 09:35:30
Comments:
As long as we seem to be headed in that direction anyway....what was your first concert and how much was the ticket (if you remember). For me it was:
The Eagles---1975---$6.00 per ticket
Name: DanFanSupremo
smokingmylastcigerette
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 07:12:34
Comments:
Hey, I', a first timer to this guestbook so bear with me...
to stranger: if you are male: you sounded like a girlyman bitching about people being "rude" on the net - jeez - GROW UP - (Kmart has a sale on panties today)If you're female toughen it up babe (walmart has a sale on hunting boots)gee, I shop around in all the coolest places don't I?
to geena: you've got a funny head - great way of putting your immediate thoughts down: Out of curiosity, what do you look like? God, please don't be a six foot tall transvisite but if you are lie behind your alias.
to Walter and Donald - possible new album titles:
1) back up files necessary
2) stranded in Antiqua
3) press the start menu
4) world explorations
5) last train to senility
6) year 2001
7) solitary delirium5) back up files necessary
Name: My Favorite
@is still,
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 00:49:10
Comments:
WALTER BECKER.
Name: Scoop
@I got the news!
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 23:49:54
Comments:
STORY OF THE YEAR!!!Uncovered evidence that Steely Dan
hired ex band member of Partridge Family for work. Sources
say..gotta go now.
Name: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LESTER THE NIGHTFLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DANFAN27@YOUKNOWWHO.COM
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 22:39:58
Comments:
My best friends sister is a studio musician/singer, and shes on tour right now with Elliot Randall! Well Her band came through the south Florida area and my friend went to go see them. Believe it or not its kinda of like a Gospel Band! Anyway he brings home a program and I thumbing through it when i see Elliot's name and I almost shit. I told my friend do u know who this guy is(him not being a Dan Fan), he said "Yeah I talked with him for about an hour after the gig!" He had mentioned about me being a huge dan fan. I was so jeolous I wish I went now, who would know he be in some touring Gospel Act. So I guess you'd call that a near miss Dan Moment, huh!
Zeke- I can on for hours about Concert Stubs. Lets see heres a few: ( In Order by Years, starting in 86')
OZZY, BOSTON, BON JOVI, MONSTERS OF ROCK, AEROSMITH, ERIC CLAPTON
BAD COMPANY, AMERICA, RTZ, TESLA, METALLICA, STEELY DAN, GREAT WHITE, REO SPEEDWAGON, SKID ROW, TOADIES, SANTANA, RATT, SMITHEREENS!!! The Steely Dan Concert was one day after the Metallica Concert, talk about apples and oranges!
Name: Schwinn
boomboommancini
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 20:21:39
Comments:
Fezo: Gotta agree with you 100% about Zevon's "Sentimental Hygiene" being a truly great album. Has a very similar feel to R.E.M's "Document", their last IRS release. I can't imagine any Dan-Fan not flipping over the lyrics to "Detox Mansion"--and "Reconsider Me" is a truly touching love ballad. I give it an "8" with a low ceiling.
Speaking of R.E.M., I'm digging the new one. Anybody else have an opinion about "UP"?
Zeke: Medusa was on Threshold. Weird, eh? Pretty odd companion to the Moody Blues' catalog...
Special 70's Salute: Just bought the newly remastered (from the original tapes) "Yellow Brick Road". Wow! This is the way it was supposed to sound! Interesting liner notes as well.
Hooked on Sonics,SEMB
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Starry Night In The Pineywoods of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 19:19:23
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!!
Another strange place to hear Steely Dan music, and another story . . .
Tonight, I was looking for a pork ham "spiral" to cook tomorrow, and was at a "Kroger's" store, of which we have several in TexAss---as I was choosing, the store "pipedin" P.A. system was playing "Ruby Baby" from Donald Fagen's "Nightfly" album.
About five years ago, a similar occurrence happened while I was grocery shopping at a "Brookshire Brother's" store (they don't sell no beer at these stores). "Green Flower Street" from the same album happened to be playing, which made shopping a more pleasant experience, with a lot of strange looks from people, as I was singing along with the lyrics. I was at the checkout stand, and a pretty young lady was asking me, (as it was the opening day of deer-hunting season), why I wasn't out hunting. I told her, "Well, I don't hunt anymore". And, she told me, "You sure are missing out on some good meat----why, my whole family goes out and hunts deer----my brothers, my dad, my uncles, cousins, and we live all year on that meat----it is low in cholesterol, and good for you." I smiled, and when she smiled back at me, I noticed she didn't have any teeth----LOL----(a true story, as all-of-mine are)
"Ruby . . .when will you be mine. . .?"
Saludos!!!!
Michael
; )
Name: Dan Drummond
D.Drummond@cableinet.co.uk
UK
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 13:11:31
Comments:
I saw SD play last year at the Art Crimes Tour where they played Jack Of Speed - a very smooth, jazzy, high quality tune. Is there anywhere universe of a haystack that is the Internet that I can find a WAV,AU, etc of the track?
Incidentally, for all those bassplayers out there, check out Stanley Clarke and Colin Hodkinson, they are in one word - mind blowing.
Waiting for the new album patiently...
Name: Almost cut my hair
Over the years I have been hunted
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 12:49:39
Comments:
CPR: check em' out at www.crosbycpr.com
Name: Johnny's Playroom
it's a bunker
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 12:05:29
Comments:
CPR is Crosby, Pevar & Raymond. James Raymond is A HUGE Steely Dan fan, as well as being Crosby's kid. Jeff Pevar is a great gutiarist who has played live with Fagen, Ray Charles and R.Lee Jones. I saw him play in New York at Le Bar Bat about a year ago, he blew me away. If you get a chance to see CPR live, go do it.
Name: Big Fan
home@last.com
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 12:04:00
Comments:
I've been in a daze recently and when I woke up today and listened to some of my SD CD's, they sounded better and had more info than I remembered and the New England Patriots were playing in Hartford. Life can be really weird and full of surprises sometimes even when you haven't been partying. Next thing you know there will be a monorail from my plant to the stadium and they'll be playing Trans Island Skyway over the PA.
Name: truecompanion
soul survivor
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 11:47:33
Comments:
oleander: have heard the name of this group, but don't know their salsa stuff.
Dr.Mu: of course any list of worldy-wise contemporary lyricists who can also play would have to include (in no particular order),Stevie Wonder, Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald
Name: RubyBaby
on the b@rbie
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 09:47:52
Comments:
DrSmeuss: I like giting lyrics.
Had a cool SD moment. Glamour Profession was played at the Outback. (what do people see in that place?) The cool part was that my kids recognized it as an SD number with no prompting from the peanut gallery. Just further proof that their sound is unique.
Did anyone show up for the 7pm chat?
rb
Name: Zeke
Ahh, the good old days!
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 08:51:31
Comments:
Schwinn: That would be the one! Lable, hmmm, something makes me think it was Polygam. I'm in a 70's kind of mood latley. Blew the dust off of Cactus, Outlaws, Pat Travers (crash & Burn), Montrose, and Triumph LP's.
I was checking out my concert stubs the other night. WoW.
What happened to the day's of concerts. Some of the stubs were incredible. For example, Day Of Rock & Roll at the SuperDome, circa 1978, the bands were, Van Halen, Boston, Heart, Blue Oyster Cult, Nazareth, Sammy Hagar, and that was only the names on the ticket. Total cost per ticket, $13.00.
Do you have any Favs?
Name: YGK
mhunter@bear.com
Location: New York, NY
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 06:35:32
Comments:
Geena: Coooooo-el - you will look me up when in NYC, yes? It would be fun to meet and chomp on some crystals...
ygk
Name: fezo
itookawrongturnontheastrialplane
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 06:03:52
Comments:
Zevon is great. He did a amazing album in the mid 80's with the members of REM as his backing band called "Sentimental Hygiene". It would be on my top ten list of all-time great discs.
He occasionally stil pops up as a live performer on "Mountain Stage", a syndicated radio program out of Charleston, West Va, that plays every Sunday afternoon on a bunch of NPR stations. Last time I heard him on the show he, Levon Helm, and Nanci Griffith (sp?) did a killer version of "Long Black Veil"
Dr Mu: the day Clinton gets indicted for any activities "uncovered" by Starr's witchhunt is the day Coach K discovers humility.
Name: Schwinn
thefan
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 00:19:04
Comments:
Dr Mu: I second that emotion.
Zeke: If you're referring to the album, Medusa, by Trapeze, then you're on my fightin' side. Name that band's label and win an "I Really Screwed the Preposition Police Over" limited edition Justin Hayward / Glenn Hughes temporary tattoo.
Lawyers, Guns and Money,
SEMB
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 at 00:01:08
Comments:
Ruby - yeah, your right. First listen, then food.
Name: Babylon Sister
sure
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 23:06:32
Comments:
Bob Tedde--
You are right about CPR. I would love to see your show at the Cat tomorrow, but must work. Not another chance until NEXT YEAR?? Boo hoo. I think I spoke to you once on the phone when I called the hotline to get "Damned" info. We talked about Todd!!! let me know when you will be playing again, or I'll be checking the Reader too.
Hi Hermit......................
Name: B TEDDE
MRSQUONK@CTS.COM
Location: SD, CA USA
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 21:46:20
Comments:
I'm 99.2% sure that CPR is David Crosby and the biological son he met for the first time only a few years ago. S'posed to be good stuff.
oops gotta go
lovebob
Name: DrMu
not your Dr Seuss
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 19:39:35
Comments:
giting = biting
Name: DrMu
DHOF
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 19:09:50
Comments:
from the mouth of babes? Whaddya say? a Dan Hall of Fame? Requirements of recording artist: Wordly Wise with intelligent, poetic, and giting lyrics; stylistic tunesmith(s); impeccable musicianship. I'll start with 4 nominations...discussion? more nominations?
1) Randy Newman
2) Warren Zevon
3) Frank Zappa
4) Elvis Costello
Name: Hank Silvers
c/o Hugo Spaak
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 18:54:13
Comments:
Geena: Glad to hear you're still getting paychecks. Other than that, I wouldn't blame you for applying elsewhere. As the man said, the job market's as good as it gets right now. I bet you wouldn't have any trouble doing better. Good luck.
Maj: I thought the same thing -- do W and D need extras in their video? Getting to NYC would be no problem, I'll just hop a Bieber bus from the Charcoal Drive-In down the street.
Pete: Hank Easton can play a little, can't he? Good show. Keep pressing them for the CD's, and let us know when they're in.
Steve V: Not a bad idea about Kamakiriad, but it reminds me of something from a chat a few years back. Someone asked whether the record company had put pressure on DF and WB to release Kama as a Steely Dan record. Walter's reply: "Some. Not enough."
Must have been an interesting experience for Donald and Walter to really have to listen to those first two albums again. How much pleasure, how much gritted-teeth discomfort?
SD moment #1: Century's End on the in-store music service at Wegman's Tuesday night.
SD moment #2: Scanning the remainders bin at Barnes and Noble, saw a book by Mel Torme and quickly checked the index for a reference to DF. Found it, too. He said that there are some great modern songwriters (including DF, but not WB) but the best ones are the classics. Come to think of it, Torme had Barry Manilow on his modern greats list.
Name: Geena
battle scarred and tired
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 18:31:54
Comments:
Ruby & Stranger: I dodged the bullets today, I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing. I know that I have been redeployed and am now gainfully employed at the morgue.
YGK: Steely Dan flavor crystals come in two packages, "Don" & Walt", mix them together and it's like virtual reality. I might be coming to NYC next month. I'll bring some for us.
Name: DrMu
He's a lone starr man
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 17:53:18
Comments:
Stellar performance today by the Judge who was calm, crips, strong, and logical. Enough evidence of purjury, witness tampering, and misuse of power for an indictment following the 2nd term...congress people looked like idiots yet again. Don't see impeachment.
JoeM: The Peacocks is a stunning recording with Herbie Handcock subbing on keys. I really like Love Stone and Citadel also. I know very little unfortunately about Buckshot (you'll have to enlighten me) who made the scene after we moved from louisiana and was buried under books and beakers.
70s redux: Any fans of old Warren Zevon?...This '75 album I dragged out with the original Carmelita, Mohammed's Radio and Poor Poor Pitiful Me is a biting as the day it was recorded...sort of a Bizarro Eagles. "The French Inhaler" is worthy of the Dan Hall of Fame (why not start our own?)
Name: Rose Darling
@big girls don't cry
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 15:36:51
Comments:
Roy Scam: LOL @ your post !
I always knew that Frankie Vallie = Mickey after that Don't Think Twice, It's Allright song. Isn't that a Bob Dylan song?
I was in love with Frankie when I was 13...Zeke:
What is the website address for the Jazzfest please?
Name: TheStranger
try again tomorrow
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 11:39:05
Comments:
roy scam,
you're on to something there, but frankie vallie of the 4 seasons is not mickey mouse. he's newt gingrich. i expect newt will have more time for his music career now & we can listen to more falsetto rock. mickey mouse is neil young. i'm sure of it. michael eisner put it all together.geena,
jobs you hate are often best left behind, especially in a strong economy. wait a minute.... got to sign off. monica's trying to get under my desk again.
Name: Steve V
websurfing in Dandom
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 10:49:16
Comments:
Congrats to Tomas Broberg & co. for their very cool Steely Dan audio and video archives page.....
on viewing the 1973 footage of Steely Dan I have a few comments:1.)I must agee with one critics opinion: they WERE the ugliest band around.....(not that I don't think Donald and Walter are handsome)
2.)David Palmer was a terrible singer (for Steely Dan material at least)...
3.)Dias and Baxter were two of the best guitarists of the '70's...check it out (he also has a file of B.Streisand's 'I mean to shine'!)- http://w1.332.telia.com/~u3320061/sd_sound.htm
Tomas:You've brought Steely Danology to a new level!
Name: fezo
Can't.Buy.Ecstasy
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 10:34:23
Comments:
Ruby: Probably, unless you could sell it to the judge as "fair use". But that would be a real tough sell if you put all the new liner notes out on the web. Excerpts, each for a limited period of time, might survive judicial scrutiny, or our heros could choose to post all the material themselves on their own site and the subject of copyright violations would be moot.
hey all, if I wanted Santa to get me the two "new" releases what should I tell him to look for packaging wise. I don't want to find the original releases without the valued-added material under my tree.
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Sunny Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 10:17:21
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!
Zeke is right about the rooms selling out several months in advance for the JazzFest.
DecaDANt----yep, that CDL will work for a motorhome, and you are so right that most people still call 'em "mobile homes" or "Winnybagos"-----LOL!!!
Ours are powerful diesels with torque you won't believe, BOSE sound system/ coupled with Sony----very plush and nice.
Maybe I should book some spaces at one of the nice RV Parks down there???
Is the new "Can't Buy A Thrill" and "Countdown To Ecstasy" worth buying??
Saludos!!!!!
Michael
; )P.S.: Indeed, Todd Rundgren did utilize some unique recording and studio nuances, which many others also used. I got a strange feeling Todd is a DanFan and viceversa----Hell, who knows?? I did think it interesting in one of my "boot" SD trades over the years, "We Gotta Get You A Woman" is on one side of the Steely Dan set----go figure???
Name: RubyBaby
sneaking up on Boo Radley
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 09:52:59
Comments:
LucklessP: I can relate. I've basically held to that same stance, not being a collector nor building any shrines to Steely Dan (or anyone else). If I happen to get either one of the "retreads" it would be CBAT for the liner notes or Countdown for the music. My budget is all blown to hell this month anyway.fezo: Is it against the copyright law to put the liner notes up on the web?
The new liners are one of the main attractions to buying those in the first place. I would feel like I was slapping DF and WB in the face.RoseDarling: Anthony, the bartender, heard DF & WB on an Off The Record interview, I think on Sunday. It was already in progress when he came upon it. (we've talked) He said they put some of those interviews on cd. Maybe we can find it. :)
Geena: After hearing all you've said about your job, I don't know whether to hope you can keep it, or hope they give you the heave-ho. That might be one of those "blessings in disguise" type things.
I think it's safe to say, We're all pulling for ya!Clas: You broke the 1st rule of parenting - you MADE your kid listen to something. What did you expect? And on a full stomach, too.
I always "hide" the things I want my kids to have, be it food, books, music, etc. If they think you're hoarding it, they will not be able to resist.
Cherish those visists, don't you :)rb
Name: David in the Florida Room
dmoore113@aol.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 08:57:57
Comments:
Hi Friends, Just a thought here.....when I tell someone I'm a big time rabid Steely Dan fan (and I have that opportunity nightly on my gigs) their reaction is either a discourse on all the great songs or they only know the radio stuff...IE. reelin',rikki,etc.
Now those are great songs but not nearly as great as the ones the execs didn't pick for airplay.
I feel sorry for the people who only got the "airplay" songs....and the same goes for Todd Rundgren and a host of other great artists.Of course life doesn't allow enough time to fully explore everybody works.....so we'll consider ourselves lucky to have stumbled onto the Dan!
As for Todd,the guy Invented some studio and production techniques that everyone including Steely Dan use.
If you have the chance check out Utopia's" POV" or,Todd's "Tortured Artist Effect" please do so.
Have a good one, your Pal,David
Name: YGK
..
Location: y'know,
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 08:54:14
Comments:
Geena: "Steely Dan flavor crystals" - love it - where can I get some? maybe we could taek some together....
Name: Geena
Waiting for the bullet
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 08:34:22
Comments:
This place today is like a warzone, everybody is dropping all over. I just wish they'd just shoot me and get it over with.
Anyway, on a more pleasant note, Thanks Edd for your information. I found out this morning that CPR is David Crosby's new band not his son's as I previously mentioned.
Stranger: Neil Young's voice is not pleasant to listen to, but I do like his music and it even sounds better done by other artists.
Gotta go put my head under the guillotine....
Name: Zeke
you might be a congressman, taking bribes on the side..
Location: ya gonna have to serve somebody,
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 08:07:44
Comments:
Good to hear all the talk about the Dan Fess in N'awlins. A word of advice, this is a huge event. Book flights and hotels early, like NOW! Most of the hotels in the quarter will be booked by February. Tickets to the Fairgrounds never sell out. The good hotels offer shuttle service to and from the Fairgrounds. The night concerts are a little different. These shows may have 3 to 4 acts and sell as a regular concert would. Check the Jazz Fest web page for on-sale dates and acts.
Good Luck!
Name: fezo
already.popping.NoDoz
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 06:03:29
Comments:
Soc. Herm.: I like the designated chat time for this p.m. It's a little past my usual crashing hour but I'll try to stay up just in hopes of you revealing where one can still get Red White and Blue in this great country of ours
Roy: Doris Day is pretty old. She came to fame as a big band singer in the early 40's and consequently probably was the subject of some front lines fantasizing.
see, it really does pay to watch Biography on A & E.
Name: Roy.Scam
they.got,little.voices.that.go.peep.peep.peep
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 05:13:37
Comments:
Geena-- Paul Williams is a very diminutive talk/game show guest, occasional actor, singer, and mostly a songwriter. Some of his pop pastries were (I'm working from memory here): "The Rainbow Connection" [Muppet Movie], "Rainy Days and Mondays", "We've Only Just Begun", "I Won't Last a Day, " [Carpenters], "Just an Old Fashioned Love Song" [3 Dog Night], and "Another Fine Mess" [theme from "The End"].
Gap--How old do you think Doris Day is? They didn't name D-Day after her, you know. It was Betty Grable that was the zipless French fuck fantasy of WWII soldiers. -- Are champions exempted from the ending a sentence with a preposition rule?
Stranger-- Neil Young is Pluto; Mickey Mouse is actually Frankie Valli. If you don't believe it, listen to the Four Seasons' version of "Don't Think Twice, It's alright".
RS
Name: Edd
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 03:27:06
Comments:
CPR - "Morrison"
N'dea Davenport - "Old Man"
Hawkwind - "Gimme Shelter"
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 02:01:27
Comments:
Last night my son visited us. Or let's say, he visited our refrigerator. After he'd checked that one out a several times I pushed him down on the sofa and played Hornsbys "Spirit Trail" for him.
He wasn't impressed. He used words like "white mans blues", "hillbilly", "music for truckers who's smuggling Moonshine".
My own blood!
cmf: exactly my point.
Lisa/Sunny Sam: wow! I jump for joy! I can also, beside Zeke, ask around where to stay.
Stranger: no I did mix up the flight route. it's Stockholm - New York - Cincinatti - New Orleans. Can you tell me why the hell there's no flights from New York directly to New Orleans?
Name: Gap
wordup
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 01:24:27
Comments:
C'mon Roy, in Doris' day, (hahaha), the composer just never acknowledged that it was Chopin he was pasting his smarmy lyrics over. After all, the veterans just wanted to have sex without their pants around their ankles like they had to in France and damned if they were going to swoon over anything but a blond when they went out to party! They were the Champions, My Friend!
No Time for Losers,
Gap "Bicycle Races" Brandy
Name: DecaDANt
always.willin
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 at 00:12:07
Comments:
Second posting, and I'm already strung out here all night.
Please dont' flame me, I'm a newbie, and a really sensitive big guy, and I'll come over thar an' whoop yer ass :-)Oleander: See? Pays to hold on to yer Gold Teeth :-) I loved your website! Especially your Linx links link.
Zeke: How refreshing to see honorable mention to Little Feat. I'm diggin' their website, now!!!
MCP: I'm there at that Jazz Fest if can. I have a CA 'class A/TX' commercial license. You think we can fit my 'voice of the theatres' in one of them thar 'all too mobile homes'?
Then, all of a sudden, nothing happened (is that Monty Python or Firesign Theatre)!!!!
Name: bob tedde
MrSquonk@cts.com
Location: sd, CA
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 22:43:20
Comments:
BABS: The Steely Damned, (yes the same one the Maj was speaking of) will be performing our last show of '98 at The Catamaran Resort Hotel in Mission Beach this Friday. If you would like to be on the guestlist, call me at The Rockola 24hr. Hotline (619) 558-1966.
lovebob
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 20:38:14
Comments:
Ruby - I know what you mean about Third World Man - I used to smile to myself as I listened to it over the years, and think that it was put at the end of the album, because they knew it would be almost twenty years before they released another one, and wanted to leave us with that haunting guitar. It always seems like it's a grey day when that song is is playing - But what a masterpiece.
Paul Williams - Didn't he also write "Evergreen" for Barbara? Of course, he was that annoying twit son of Pat McCormick's in "Smokey and the Bandit."
Name: TheStranger
drive to the coast
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 20:24:30
Comments:
geena,
your advice is good, but when have i ever taken good advice?i must confess i think neil young is awfully creative. but his voice to me sounds forced, phony and awful. in fact, i have a theory that neil young is actually mickey mouse. has anyone ever seen the 2 of them in a room together?
rose darling,
golden razor award. i love the way you talk.
Name: Geena
I'm in a bitchy mood, you should be too
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 19:59:50
Comments:
Only one more day before I find out if I get the big boot at work. Anyway, there's nothing I can do about it.
I was driving home from work tonight and heard some really great music on the radio. After nearly blasting my eardrums out from turning up the live version of Pearl Jam's "Even Flow", the next 3 songs really sparked my curiosity. I heard a remake of "Gimme Shelter" followed by a remake of Neil Young's "Old Man" and then this amazing new group called CPR. Don't know who did the remake of Gimme Shelter and Old Man was sung by a woman. From what I recall CPR is David Crosby's son's band. I also don't know the name of the song because the announcers on this station have an extremely rude habit of not back or forward announcing anything. Can anyone help me out? The song done by CPR was very reminscent of old CSN&Y with a 90's feel mixed in with some Steely Dan flavor crystals. I've heard it a few times before, it's one of those songs where you really don't know the words, but the tune playing in your head over and over.
Rose Darling: You don't like "We Gotta Get You A Woman?", I'm not a Todd fan yet, but I like that one, the one that annoys the bejeezus out of me is "Bang the Drum". Thanks for blathering aloud. I like the Golden Razor award!
Roy.Scam: I've only know of Doris Day by watching some of her old movies. Didn't she reclaim her virginity when she started hanging out with Rock Hudson or posing as his pseudo girlfriend for publicity pics? And please tell me what ever happened to Paul Williams and what was his claim to fame? I just remember seeing him on reruns of the Odd Couple. Ooooh...what a nasty looking little man.Sociable Hermit: As much as I would love to go to the chat room, Bill Gates and his Windows 98 crew screwed up java on me. This weekend, I'm going to do a little format /s on my computer and reinstall everything except W98. Oh and Bobby Sherman was my first love.
TheStranger: Your general statement was so true, but as you know on the internet people faces and identities are hidden behind walls of aliases, so it gives them power to say what they feel. They grow major cogliones and emote their true feelings, whether it's because that's the way they really are or what they feel at the moment, even if it's acting like a high school kid. They know someone isn't going to chase them down and kick their butt. I know it's rude and very childish, but if you let it get to you, then you've given them control. Ignore them, they'll go away.YGK: YESSS! I LOVE NEW YORK!
Off to re-do my resume
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Nice Night in The Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 19:26:31
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!
Open invitation to those driving or flying in for the DanFest/Jazz Festival of 1999, whenever that is in "New Ahlanns"!!
As I live about 6 hours driving time from "New Ahlanns", and a corporate executive for a luxury motorhome manufacturer---don't ask me about some of the "name brands" of some of our owners---sorry, Robert Wagner, Jill St. John, George Foreman, Joe Gibbs, Scott Goodyear, and others----however, you are most welcome in my home---- hot tub/beer/excellent audio/Steely Dan/"crank-it-up" as loud as we want (plentiful with male/female college age students who appreciate the Dan---then, if some of you have a Commercial Driver's License, we can take a couple of our motorhomes to "New Ahlanns"----tow some driving cars behind----bed space (and who might get 'em) is up to y'all.
However, please let-me-know if you might be interested in a proposal such as this one. The New Ahlanns JazzFest is one of the best in the whole world, if not THE BEST---so, if you are going to couple this with a "DanFest", please advise, as I can truly make this happen.
I live about 2 1/2 hours North of the Houston "Bush" InterContinental Airport (don't fly into the "Hobby" Houston Airport-----south side and wrong side of Houston.
It CAN be damn HOT & HUMID here in May/June so, please advise the approximate dates.
However, I would be most happy to be your esteemed and honored host for fun, games, SD and transportation!!!
Saludos!!!
Michael
; )
Name: Rose Darling
#$%^#&)!!!!!!!!! arrrrgggggghhhhh AOL !!!!
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 18:55:25
Comments:
WHAT FREAKIN' DAN INTERVIEW DID I MISS NOW????
Lucky Ped:
"Vanilla prose." I like that. Is that anything like Vanilla Fudge?CMF, what that stand for? I'm intrigued. Don't have any time on my hands to make up an acronym list for you.
The Stranger:
Re: your posting today. Well said ! Politeness is always an enhancing asset to any conversation/posting and is practiced by people of conscience, or those who know that words have just as big an effect as actions at times. Mean posting leaves a reader/recipient feeling just a bit worse somewhere in the world.
You Dan fans are planning for the Jazz Fest as if it is just around the corner. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it next May/June?
Is this the genesis of the Next Danfest seriously?I'm likin' this "t.v. guilty pleasures" train of confessions. Sorry, GB purists. Now, is anyone checking out the new Fantasy Island or just me? (Donning asbestos thermajammies.)
Nitey nite !!! Don't Let the Piss-ant Posters Bite !!!
Name: Rose Darling
@hanging tenuously to the online cord...
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 18:27:06
Comments:
Sociable Hermit:
You said "no pleasures should be thought of as "guilty", unless a judge and a jury of your peers deems it to be." Isn't that a self contradicting statement? Did you mean it to be? Is guilt determined by others' values or our own? Clarify...
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Humid & Warm Pineywoods of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 18:21:58
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!
Not a story this time-----however, I am happy to read that the "new" remastered "Can't Buy A Thrill", and "Countdown To Ecstasy" are worth the "listen" and purchase.
I was wondering an opinion from the musical "wonders" posting in the Guestbook, if all of the key changes in "Through-With-Buzz" are apparent as they are in the original?
Wow, certainly anyone listening to all of the key changes in this ONE song could make them appreciate the genius of the musical talent Mr. Becker and Mr. Fagen truly do possess. As a matter of fact, it is not one of my "favs" to listen to, but the key changes/tempo changes/etc. are terrific!!!
Saludos!!!! (and hoping someone besides myself enters the "ParaChat" this evening)
Michael
; )
Name: Rose Darling
@posting quickly before I get booted off AOL again !!!
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 18:09:53
Comments:
Roy Scam: Haven't seen Critters, couldn't say.
Dr. Mu: I am aware of the tracking method which you detailed. So what your original comment was about is that you are saying Katy Lied "sounded live" here and there, and Royal Scam didn't? But as you also say, didn't the Dan basically create each album by overdubbing each song anyway? How did/do you distinguish what you call a "live" sound?
********You Todd Rundgren fans reminded me of that We Got to Get You a Woman Song because I forgot I can't stand it.
Without "foisting" my opinion on anyone, I feel like blathering aloud that, for the recordless record, I can't stand listening to the droning of either Neil Diamond or Bruce Hornsby. I don't remember much about Barry Manilow songs because I never hear them anymore but I don't recall having any fondness for his brand of syrupy pathos. Both Barry and Neil are recipients of the Golden Razor Award from me, for "artists in the category who tend to make one want to cry along with/whine along with/ slash wrists to/ waddle in self pity with their all too fitting lyrics."
Name: Roy.Scam
i'm.arrogant..you.should.be.too
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 18:02:52
Comments:
up on the hill: I've been in the 'violent opposition to the truth' stage for as long as I can remember. Please tell me how to achieve Stage 3.
Pete & `da Damned: The audio is great. That wah-wah in Haitian Divorce is killer.
As long as someone mentioned Doris Day: Despite her cheesy reputation and those unwatchable TV shows, she had (has?) one fine singing voice. She first became famous as a jazz/big band type singer and was really getting acclaim as a vocalist; that was before she became an actress and a virgin. Her vocal on "Secret Love" is as good a job of singing as you'll ever hear. One of the great voices.
On the subject of 70's cheese: Paul Williams was el fromagito supremo. Where would Kermit or the Carpenters have been without him. You can't stop humming "The Rainbow Connection" or "Another Fine Mess" . Try. You can't do it. His hooks are indelible.
RS
Name: DANFAN
KC@WW
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 17:21:45
Comments:
New CD's are pet project of The Immortal and The Dynamic Duo. The liner notes also say"stay tuned for more". The sound is killer and the content is much cleaner and more discrete;thus, adding
nuances not accentuated or even revealed in past renditions. The boys put much work into this as this is no MCA reissue scam. Highly recommended!
Name: Mitch
The New One CD Artwork and Title
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 17:09:45
Comments:
How about this for the Artwork for the soon to be released before the millenium 'New One". Monica Lewinsky standing on a corner of a urban setting. The title ,you guessed it Mock Turtle "Can Buy A Thrill"
Name: letterman
before the show
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 15:32:35
Comments:
not interested in most of this dribble....who cares about anything outside the current mocrem of the moment...
we are a immediate eat it up society with a combined attenion span of 3 minutes...any wonder monicadicksuckinglewinsky is the latest multi-millionaire who never had to work...
amazing to me that with our collective symbiosis national ig of 10 that any of you guys remember 20-25 year old songs by the dan...that in itself tells me that was some amazing fucking music..
Name: Sociable Hermit
JustAnIdea
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 15:04:01
Comments:
Hey All,
More than a few people have been commenting that it appears no one ever seems to use the chat room. So I have an idea:
How about we schedule a chat for TOMORROW NIGHT!
Thursday night, Novenber 19, 10PM eastern, 9PM central, 7PM pacific. If you log on and no one is there yet, stay on, and let's hope we can get enough people to join so we can have a big old chat. I know it's last minute, but what the hell. Maybe then we can actually schedule some real chats knowing that others will be there.
If you don't have Java, I'm pretty sure you can download it right there. I did, and it works fine for me.
Hope to see you all there tomorrow.
Herm
Name: Babylon Sister ( I SHAKE it!!)
Yeppers
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 12:52:38
Comments:
HI, Y'all--
Hey, Sociable Hermit--
I LOVE the "Road" movies, and also The Doris/Rock thing!! What a perfect Saturday afternoon they make! How did you know that I have been watching 'Bewitched' and "Hogan's Hero's'"?? Are you "Big Brother??".Micharel C. Packard--
Talk about strange places to hear Todd, I remember hearing "Can we still be friends?" while grocery shopping one night at the Fodd for less.!!Maj. "C"--
Here in San Diego (where I live), we have a Steely Dan" tribute band called The Steely Damned". Is that by chance the same band you are speaking of?? I have yet to see them here, but have wanted to for some time.The Stranger--
I am with you. What is this place for if not to exchange thoughts/ ideas among people that LOVE the 'Dan ( as I do!!). Do people think that Donald& Walter listen only to themselves?? Even for artists they may not "enjoy" I am sure that they get some sort of "inspiration" from, know what I mean?? You have to at least listen to Barry Manilow to be knowledgable enough to make FUN of him......Love You All........ Babs ;^)
Name: Joe M.
@same
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 12:34:18
Comments:
Doc,
Most definitely. "Renaissance" deserves to be in the rotation. I can never get enough of Branford's interpretation of "The Peacocks" or that nifty impromptu live cut of Sonny Rollins classic "St. Thomas". Haven't heard anything new Re: Kirkland.
You into any of Branford's alter-ego Buckshot LeFongue stuff?
Roseland, Roseland, Roseland, Roseland... etc.
Name: up on the hill
@myopia.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 12:19:55
Comments:
The TRUTH can be identified as having 3 stages:
1) It is ridiculed
2) It is violently opposed
3) It is held as being self-evident.
Schopenhauer
Name: Big Fan
Here@thewesternworld.net
Location: Anywhere, USA
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 11:09:16
Comments:
Pete - Good job! The RealAudio files work and sound great. Luckily I'm home enjoying a beautiful vacation day and can play them. Listening to that wah - wah sound of Hatian Divorce as I type.
Bob - good to here your lead again - just like I remember it.
Peg: Good to hear your backup on Kings - brings back fond memories.
New Years - Times Square; Fresh air; You are my wife; Good by city life; Green Acres you are there!
Name: TheStranger
this is my street
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 10:46:32
Comments:
clas,
if you have any time in memphis i would strongly recommend a visit to graceland. it's a lot of fun. far more interesting than i imagined. it's also, as far as i can tell, the only thing worth doing in memphis other than catching a flight out of there.general statement follows--this guestbook has some of the cleverest people around the net. it also suffers from the same malady seen all over the net, which is rudeness. it's the little pissant who becomes a monster when he gets in his car syndrome. i think i was at least part of the problem for a while, but now i realize it's important to be as polite on the net as it is anywhere else. a few days ago i wrote a harmless statement applauding the drummer in the title track from aja & one person hiding behind a pseudonym behind another pseudonym replied by calling me an asshole. those are fighting words on the street. but on the net, it's business as usual. i'm sick of it.
Name: Don't
You
Location: Feel, Special Now?
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 10:22:37
Comments:
..
Name: ygk
..uh...huh...
Location: nyc,
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 10:20:23
Comments:
...except CMF.....
Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, Bay-Bee
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 10:19:44
Comments:
I'm living in a great city and I love it -
all Dan-Fans should live here.....
Name: the JokeR
passin' out the pills
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 10:12:29
Comments:
PETE: yeah, what does "performance video" mean here....a music video, a video seminar on how to tune various instruments or what.....
CMF: what the hell is going on here, too much starch in the nappies or what? take a "recommendation" and drop this beefage you seem to have with certain others.
Please, honey, you're starting to spit when you talk....
[joke]r
Name: Tower Traveler
.
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 09:43:56
Comments:
If you check the racks carefully you'll notice that most of SD's ORIGINAL releases are deep discount priced while many releases still selling by other major artists from the same period are right up there (I recently saw a "greatest classic albums" display at HMV -- Aja was the only album from over 20 classics from the 70's that was "Super Saver" priced). This is because of MCA. The publisher has the right to discount prices whenever it wants, and MCA has always discounted all of SD's catalog earlier rather than later. Only re-releases, like remasters, or new packaging and liners, puts the price back up to market for a while (until MCA chooses to discount them too). The many SD re-releases over the years, including the recent "original packaging & new liner notes" reissues, are probably attempts by D+W and/or their management to try to keep at least some part of their collection selling at market prices at any given time, the only option they have in the face of MCAs decision to keep discounting them. I doubt this strategy is aimed at getting old fans to buy the re-releases over and over, as if they're getting someting "new". It just increases the odds that any first time buyers will actually pay full price or close to it. Which seems fair enough to me.
Name: duh
again
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 08:58:48
Comments:
make that roseland.
Name: maj©
iw@nnabeinthevideo
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 08:58:13
Comments:
Performance Video? That must mean a show at Rodeland or something right? With an audience, Right???? I'm fucking there, bay-by!!
maj©
Name: DrMu
summer of love?
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 07:48:22
Comments:
Pete: you are the El Supremo!
I dusted off another Branford CD (circa 1987) last night with Kenny Kirkland: "Renaissance." It definitely deserves to be on the 5 disc carousel for a while. The rhythm section of Kenny, Bob Hurst, and yes Tony Williams really cooks. Unlike his brother lately, Branford doesn't force the lead (you almost want to just get out of the way with those 3 guys), but adds really nice accents and tasteful, restrained solos. They call it lagniappe - check my spelling Zeke. A good one to check out. The song Lament features some really nice work by Kenny. We haven't gotten any details of Kenny's demise here in Texas as the newspapers are obsessed with Michael Irvin not catching a pass last weekend. Any more info?
Clas: Memphis is about 400 miles west of Knoxville and is right on the bluffs of the Mississippi River which should be swollen and very muddy that time of the year. A cool looking pyramid sports/entertainment complex is by the river and across the Mississippi is the fertile farmland of Arkansas. You may not have time, but they have some great blues and R&B stations there...good ribs, too.
Name: cmf
not-so-fast
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 07:29:00
Comments:
Edd, quite unsurprisingly, congratulates his internet buddy for clarity of vision in interpreting - "I am listening to 'Happy Feet' by 8 1/2 Souvenirs. You all should also." - as meaning something other than - I am important. Therefore, what I am listening to is important. Therefore, you all should also listen to it.
If you wish to make a "suggestion" or "recomendation" on a particular artist, fine by me. I'll listen. If you want to tell me what I "should" or "should not" be listening to, then you get the coveted arrogance award.
Name: lisa
you know it, b@by!
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 07:25:09
Comments:
clas: samantha and i will definitely be there...i wouldn't be surprised to see the lovely oleander in the house as well...btw, i can't wait to meet you in person.
zeke: what is the chance of us renting a condo, as opposed to a hotel room, during the festival?
Name: Luckless Pedestrian
i.got.the.news
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 07:25:02
Comments:
I can't comment on an interview I haven't heard, so if someone can make a transcript or RA file available, we will all sing their praises until Christmas.
Also, much as I love The Boys, I ain't shellin' out no $19 for an enhanced retread when I don't have stereo equipment sophisticated enough to detect the difference from the original. (And I probably wouldn't do so even if I *did* have the snazzy hardware. I swear, some of you have *seriously* misguided priorities. You could at least donate the old CDs to those less fortunate.) I don't know why anyone (least of all D&W) would expect us to get all aroused over something we've had available for 25 years. (Spouses excepted, of course.)
But if some kind-hearted soul would put the new liner notes here or (better yet) on a web page somewhere, we would all sing their praises etcetera, etcetera.
Let's see... Walter on one side of the "Politically Incorrect" soundstage and Skunk Baxter on the other!! That'd be a good episode.
One problem I have with that show, though, is that the (typically young) audience frequently confuses wit with substance; a snappy mot juste always elicits more applause than a reasoned insight presented in vanilla prose.
Name: Zeke
jammin' Trapeze
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 07:10:23
Comments:
Clas: No kidding. Well I hope some of the other GB'ers follow your lead.
I was browsing thru the Feat page (www.littlefeat.net) and read an interview Billy Payne gave sometime in 198?. Anyway, I thought it was pretty cool. He spoke of Donald and Steely Dan and had some pretty interesting things to say about the music biz. Check it out.
How much time does Donald spend @ River Sound? Is he an active player in the day to day recording process?
Name: Joe M.
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 06:44:12
Comments:
Pete, as always, you got the news...
Name: fezo
smiling.for.the.camera
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 04:53:10
Comments:
performance video?
is that, like, on stage with instruments pretending to play and sing OR is more like "performance art" such that we can expect to see Walter and Donald on stage talking to a bunch of fruits and vegetables
Name: Edd
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 03:14:07
Comments:
Oleander, quite unsurprisingly, gets the coveted "20/20" award for clarity of vision.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 01:17:49
Comments:
YGK - it's cool.
Ruby - I knew you would like it. And damn, swans, do they go south in winter? I haven't seen them so they probably have.
I'm going to New Orleans (if I don't break my legs or something) to see the Jazz-fest. I've already bought the air-tickets. I hope some of you will be there.
But there is something that bothers me here: the flight route is Stockholm - Amsterdam (shall I bring anything?) - Memphis - New Orleans. Memphis, isn't that close to Knoxville? Rattlesnakes? Poison?
Name: Duke
toddyinyourteddy
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 at 01:14:19
Comments:
amboy,
i'll bet you a wango I can shine a battle apple if you wouldn't mind wrapping a little cotton around this razor-sharp arrowhead first.
ole,please stop distracting me from this historic moment in William Tell mythrature!
Name: Return to Brenda
prettyboats
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 23:44:54
Comments:
Mr. Roy Scam,
It used to really burn me up when I'd bring a nice gift to a meteor shower...
But seriously, yesterday, just after sunset as I was walking home from my job as human resource director at a Malaysian Nike Footwear sweatshop, the entire eastern sky came alive as if Samson of old was rending the Lion limb from limb as he fought to gain access to this sector.
Of course the Malaysian Footwear Technicians thought the meteors were "scales from a Dragon". A Dragon!? Can you believe anybody would trust these phillistines with cutting-edge shoe manufacturing technology?
Air Brenda
Name: Pete
petefogel@asan.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 23:08:13
Comments:
Believe it or not, I still haven't been able to get those cd's from The Steely Damned show. The soundman said I'd have them by the end of the year. I just forgot to ask him which year. I did put up the two songs I do have on Real Audio (Kings & Haitian Divorce). At least now you can hear them both in their entirety.
http://www.lebarbat.com/damned.htm
I don't know how many of you live or will be in the NYC area on New Year's Eve but if you want to make plans, we're putting together our annual all-star band at Le Bar Bat. As usual, we have a couple of Dan players (past and present). So far, the lineup includes Tom Barney & Catherine Russell. Drew Zingg will be the guitarist as long as he doesn't get called out on the road, and we haven't confirmed the rest of the players yet. But it should be a fun night!Regarding the real Steely Dan: I understand they'll be shooting a performance video for the new album (which is scheduled to be released late spring/early summer).
Name: maj©
frontier@hrd.org
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 21:13:38
Comments:
Todd "is God" Rundgren was a guest on Politically Incorrect about two weeks ago. He absolutely pasted some talking head republican to the floor. Very articulate, very knowledgeable. I'd pair him up with Walter for that show.
What would it take to get Walter on Politically Incorrect?
Peg: thanks for the surfer article. Coincidentally, I was fiddling with a mp3 midi file of home at last sent to me by David ITFR when your fax came thru. Wierd or what?
Showers to all,
maj©
Name: guestbook purist
*
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 21:03:53
Comments:
Mitch- One trick pony? Come on, that's a Paul Simon song. Only Steely Dan discussions here please!
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: The Pleasant Sunshiny Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 20:39:40
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!
Oleander, thankyou so much for CDWW and "Apogee", plus "Medical Science" which arrived today----definitely, I owe you one, kiddo!
Interesting how vinyl transfers to high bias audio tape rather well, huh??Guess I need to look for more Steely Dan-related music at some of the used record stores, flea markets, etc.
Thanks for your comments, Geena; et. al
Stangest place to hear Todd Rundgren's "I Saw The Light"---- while working with the NSSL (National Severe Storms Laboratory) out of Norman, Oklahoma, in college----was following a category 4 small, yet "white" colored tornado----it backtracked when we ran over three section lines ahead of it----ended up in the middle of "All Hell Breaking Loose", and Todd just kept singing on that 8-track!!
Saludos!!!
Michael
; )P.S.: Next story---- when I lost three women, yet got a new Steely Dan album in 1977----all in one day!!!
Name: Mitch
Guest Book Purists
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 19:44:59
Comments:
A lot of the people that post here bitched about non Steely subject matter. The GB was humorous, off the wall, sometimes below the belt, but never predictable. Ihope the "purists" are happy that this messageboard is no longer a smorgasboard of thought, but a one trick pony.
Name: oleander
foot in mouth disease
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 19:31:47
Comments:
johnboy--thanx, bud, for disabusing me of an inappropriate rock attribution.
Todd N--OK, OK, make fun of me, just see if I care.
Neil M & Herm--Hilarious song titles.
cmf--"Hey, quite obviously we can all like or dislike anyone we damn well please and render an opinion anyway we damn well like." Sue me, but that's what I took as Edd's terse point. But I don't speak for him or anyone else but me.
RB--It's because 1) we're all waiting to see if we won the new CBAT from Hoops!, and 2) there is ubiquitous bummedness over missing the interview. Anybody tape it? Please fess up. Or stick it on RealAudio. Pete? You have it?
Name: Sociable Hermit
AppearingAtMallNearYou
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 16:27:48
Comments:
***************WARNING*****************
There will be no need to put on your SD glasses.
Babylon Sister: I found the "Best Of Bobby Sherman" lurking in the racks at a Border's Books and Music around this time last year. How could anyone resist the melody of, "Julie, Julie do you love me?" When I was younger and Here Come The Brides was on, I noticed how many of the local girls were swooning over Bobby, and I knew that I wanted some of that attention myself, so for about five months, I stuttered whenever I spoke around girls. No lie. Isn't that one of the most desperate attempts for female attraction that you ever heard? I was young, though. It wasn't like I was in college, or anything. I always seemed to have a lot of girlfriends when I was younger, though I'm not sure if the feigned speech impediment had anything to do with it. Could have been worse: the girls could have fallen for Gilligan. Having to walk around being dopey, inept, and getting hit by fat guys would not have been worth it.BTW, no pleasures should be thought of as "guilty", unless a judge and a jury of your peers deems it to be. But, lets see. I'm a fool for Abbott and Costello, Hope and Crosby Road pictures, the Marx Brothers, Doris Day/Rock Hudson movies, and, among other things, re-runs of Hogan's Heroes, M*A*S*H, and Bewitched.
I'm kind of an odd creature. I have the only cave with a Primestar hook-up.Herm
Name: RubyBaby
and @ct like I belong here
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 14:15:37
Comments:
Clas: Of course I remember the swans! Have they gone South yet? I heard Swan Song in the car on Sunday. It's beautiful. Makes a great ending. (that's the point of a swan song, right?)
Anyone seen my headphones?Name du Jour: BenFoldsFive puts out a song that sounds a lot like Dust In The Wind (Todd's). I forget which song it is, but it's on the cd that has she's a brick & I'm drowning slowly. (I used to think it was "she's a prick and I'm drowning slowly.")
Mille: That guitar solo on 3rd World Man makes me feel a comforatably lonely. It's very emotional.
Anthony: You're a barkeep, so you are supposed to be a good listener, understand human nature, give better advice than Abby and still be comforting & encouraging. So tell me, why, after all the bitchin' & moanin' people do about DF and WB not giving interviews, that when someone finally hears one, nobody wants to talk about it? And when the new cds of CBAT and Countdown come out, only 1 person picks one up at the store?
And no one seems to care much about that, either?Oh look - a frog just jumped up onto the bar. Is he singing Hello, My Baby?
rb
Name: f.SCOTT FITZ-HEMINGWAY
@used book bin
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 13:19:38
Comments:
In 'Reeling In The Years' by B.Sweet (Omni Bus)- we get 4 pages on the film and recording of 'You Gotta Walk It, Like You Talk It'....a truly terrible project.....and then only 3 paragraphs on the life of Walter Becker........what a rip off!
plus there is no index, no bibliography, no US discography!.......
cut and paste job.....the author blasts Newsweek for compiling an article (in 1976)without actually interviewing Becker and Fagen...then meekly informs us that he wrote the book the same way........sheesh!
Name: Joe M.
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 12:14:17
Comments:
Steve V,
Randall's signature guitar lines (you know, the real nasty ones) can be heard imediately following Diaz' gorgeous and exquisitely executed solo after the first break on "Green Earrings" - and then again during the outro and interspersed with Fagen's vocal bites throughout.
BTW, you ever play stunt guitar?
Name: Babylon Sister
any night of the week
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 11:53:26
Comments:
Sociable Hermit--
MY SOULMATE--- where have you been? Thanks for speaking up! I too just LOVE Dean Martin-my FAV rat-packer! Of course Frank is great, But I think Dean is often overlooked in his shadow, don't you agree? Where in the hell did you find Bobby Sherman on CD? Me and my sisters bumped into him on a family vacation in Las Vegas at "Circus Circus", probably around '72 or so, the height of his "Here comes the Brides" popularity. At the time, what a teen-age (12) thrill. So, what other guilty pleasures do we share??)
Name: Steve V
waiting for godot
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 11:33:45
Comments:
Dr. Mu- I think that is Klemmer on 'Caves'...he was also on ABC Records at the times, so maybe Steely Dan got him cheap....I always wondered which track Elliot Randall played on on 'Royal Scam'....my guess-'Everything You Did'.........
thought of the day-I propose the argument that 'Kamakiriad' should be re-labelled as a 'Steely Dan' album....both Becker and Fagen play extensively on it...in fact Becker had more input on this release then on Gaucho!....so from now on when chit-chatting with people about Steely Dan..make sure you mention their 1993 release!
now back to your regularly scheduled program........
Name: DrMu
won more time
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 11:20:24
Comments:
addendum: Keep those glasses on. I read one of these engineering Dan blurbs a long time ago which claimed that on one of the later albums (I guessing Royal Scam? anybody know?) they re-recorded over one of the tracks so much that they wore the oxide right off the tape.
Name: DrMu
reading last decade's papers
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 11:15:02
Comments:
jeez, if 70's cheese is the topic (Todd's OK), how about The Carpenters?...at least Richard tried to lead a jazz trio for a while.
Roy: Johnny, tell the contestant what he's one. I believe it was Al Jardine who penned "I Write the Songs."
***WARNING!!!***
The following information actually pertains directly to Steely Dan. Please put on your polarized Polaroids. See any Donald Fagen photo for model. Please observe, as always, OSCHA standards.
RoseD: I'm no studio musician, but here goes. In the old days of studio recording were "live" meaning the whole band played at the same time. Then eventually 4 then 8 then 16, 32... "tracks" were possible so artsits could lay down bass and drum tracks the "overdub" keyboards or horns etc. This approach is common practice, bout our heroes took it to an extreme in order to get the best out of each final performance. In other words record a trumpet track 10 times until you get what you like...sort of like making movies. While Katy Lied had some live sounding sections, Royal Scam, Aja, and Gaucho were notoriously overdubbed. There is one story relayed by Michael Omartian in which he had to play a keyboard (probably piano) track with only a series of "clicks" to listen to. The amazing thing is not only could Mr. Fagen and Becker get this approach to work, but the results were spectacular. That's why the material is still fresh today while a lot of the overproduced albums by other artists in the 80s, who used the same studio techniques that Dan helped to invent, now sound stale and dated
BTW, that is a sweet sax solo.
L'll repeat my questions in case some non-Manilow fans heard it:
1) Was that John Klemmer who played the great sax solo on Caves of Altamira? (on Scam the musician credits encompass the whole album, not by song)
2) Was that his usual tenor sax. The register is so high and sound so pure. Could it be a soprano (like Branford often wields)?
Name: Mock Turtle
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 10:37:04
Comments:
Don't forget: CBAT & Countdown to Ecstasy are both out today, complete with brand spankin' new packaging, lyrics, and liner notes. I picked up CBAT and gave it a couple listens today. Sounds good, no immediately noticeable difference from the boxed set's quality, though. There is slick packaging, though, and amusing liner notes. No amount of redesigning could ever save the garish cover, though.
Name: Sociable Hermit
InMyCaveAsUsual
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 10:04:28
Comments:
Hi Everyone,
Babs: I like your new handle. If it matters, I vote that you should be able to keep it. Also, it's great to hear from another Todd fan! Do not let anyone sway you from discussing him or anyone else in here in the future. This GB is aimed at bot SD and SD related periphery. I've talked about Todd, as well as many others in here. Don't be deterred.
Someone suggested that Todd was from Detroit. He's not. He's from Philadelphia. "Philly Soul" as well as the Beatles were some of his early influences.
Wrong Guestbook: Read my message to Bab Sis, and open up your mind a bit. If we stop talking about all of our other loves and influences, this place would get pretty sterile. It's refreshing to find out more about the people you only know by the words they type on a screen. This is the night of the expanding man. Oblige us the option to divulge our personal make-up.
Mandy-low: I LOVE Dean Martin. And Frank Sinatra. And Doris Day. Scroll down a few weeks in the GB and look for the posts where people open up and tell what we listened to since the 70's. We ALL have a few skeletons in our closets, and we exposed them for all to see. Attacking Barry Manilow isn't an attack on you personally, it's merely posters having a little harmless fun. I will guarantee you that everyone here knows the lyrics to at least 5 Manilow songs. Why? Because when they were on, we didn't shut off the radio. It's a giddy embarassment. Just like me admitting that I have The Brady Bunch, The Partridge Family, The Archies, and Bobby Sherman, all on CD! Do you know what that means? It mean I bought then as an adult! Shhh. Don't tell anyone. Now, please, everyone feel free to ridicule them, because if you don't, I will in a few days anyway.
One last thing.
Here is my Top Ten List of Neil Diamond/Steely Dan song collaberations:1. I Got The News, Now I'm A Believer
2. Cherry, Cherry/Fire In The Hole (This song was banned in 7 southern states)
3. Do It Again Kentucky Woman
4. I Am I Said, Any Major Dude Will Tell You
5. Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More, He Joined Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show
6. Forever In Blue Jeans And Bad Sneakers
7. Hello Again, My Old School
8. Turn That Heartlight Over Again
9. Josie Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon
10. I Can't Function, Sweet Caroline (early demo tape)Hey, hey, let's be careful out there. And let's also have some fun.
Later,
Herm
Name: cmf
chilled
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 07:05:47
Comments:
Oleander my dear - No, I think you missed Edd's point.
johnboy - Of course, like Edd, I determine my own taste. Unlike Edd and some others around here, I don't foist my definition of taste upon others. My point about Hornsby was directed at the sophomoric Manilow=Diamond=Hornsby crowd who have seen fit to add nothing else to the discussion except that "the world must be coming to an end", etc. I don't know why Edd decided to take up their cause. You'd have to ask him.
Hey, quite obviously we can all like or dislike anyone we damn well please and render an opinion anyway we damn well like. But can we use dialogue that's at least a little above the 2nd grade level?
Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, NY
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 06:41:53
Comments:
Clas: I put another call into the studio - sheesh, trying to having them do things sometimes is like pulling teeth.
I haven't forgot about it, but if you haven't gotten it yet, I need to light some matches...my apologies for the delay.Cmon now, Manilow, Diamond, Nugent HERE? puhhhhhleeeezze.
ygk
Name: Your last customer
You earned th@ nickel I left
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 04:58:28
Comments:
Dear Busboy -
Free hint: You don't earn bigger tips by cursing at your customers and telling them to head down the road. You earn bigger tips by delivering better service.
John Q. Public
Name: the busboy at IHOP
@cleanin' someone's mess up!
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 03:16:17
Comments:
Hey would someone tell the rock star that I make minimum
wage and if he would be ever so kind as to leave a bigger
tip next time, that would sure be nice and to not get up
and switch tables after he orders the food, the waittress
is gettin kinda pissed off, and one more thing, there's
a FUCKING DENNY'S RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD!
Name: the busboy at IHOP
@cleanin' someone's mess up!
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 03:15:12
Comments:
Hey would someone tell the rock star that I make minimum
wage and if he would be ever so kind as to leave a bigger
tip next time, that would sure be nice and to not get up
and switch tables after he orders the food, the waittress
is gettin kinda pissed off, and one more thing, there's
a FUCKING DENNY'S RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD!
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Foggy Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 02:54:57
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!!
Another "Dan" moment, as I was eating a large stack of pumpkin pancakes yesterday at IHOP with my grandson (you know, the one I introduced to SD via my Sony headphones), but Fagen's "Walk Between The Raindrops" came on the piped-in P.A. system. My grandson (21 months old) got a strange smile on his face as if he had heard the song before. Then he proceeded to spill the blueberry syrup in my crotch.
Some info, please?? DecaDANt and I were the only ones chatting in the "ParaChat" room Sunday night, and I think I have seen someone mention an AOL chat session.
Please advise, and he mentioned a good album to listen to is Arturo Sandoval's "Danzon".
Saludos!!
Michael
; )
Name: amboy
@where's Walt when you need him
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 02:49:28
Comments:
Hey Todd can you split a battle apple at 100 yards?
Name: Todd Nugent
catscratchhollow
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 02:22:05
Comments:
If any of you city-slickin, lexus-sittin, clean-up the dog-shittin' with your sharper image long-handled dung-gettin' tweezers ever feels like really livin', then send me one month's mortgage payment and prepare to become a part of Todd Nugent's String Ensemble!
Your "Little Hercules" bigger than his appetite for Gameboy? Does your "learning disabled" Eagle Scout automatically reach for the cordless phone everytime he hears the "ring" of a bird of prey on the Discovery channel? Does your plump little Perry cry like a fairy when you demand he eject his Mortal Kombat CD? Well, just send him to me!
Here at Todd Nugent's String and Bow Club, located in rustic northern Michigan, natural selection is both instructor and foe! Just like junior's favorite roll-playing game except there's not a single hexagonal die to be found anywhere! But the baddies are far more dangerous here than at the neighborhood D&D popcorn and pizza lounge, because at Todd's Place, you can really be killed and eaten! In fact, if you don't learn to kill and eat the animals before they find out how stupid you are, well, let's just say there's no play-station cartridge at Wal-Mart that can bail your little cyber-youngin' out of a deep-down, feral bile-bath.
20, 30, 50 pounds overweight? It's no problem for Todd Nugent! You see, my father was a rich, heartless bastard just like you! He and my mother often blamed their unhappiness on me, just like you! Now, thanks to the internet, you can pawn your evil seed off on me while the two of you "feign" an attempt to "work-it-out" in an 8' x 6' "luxury" princess cruise cabin which you only visit when the continual "gourmet" meals run through you faster than you can find a "sani-seat" on the main "disco" deck.
But that's not fair, is it? Of course it's not fair! Life isn't fair! People learn compassion for one another because there are 100,000,000 insects to every acre of land! Consider yourselves blessed when you realize you're both too petulant to attract a lover and too tight with your "mutual" money to buy an escort. But at least you made one good decision before you fought over a life raft: Your little gene eraser can now draw a 100lb bow and though he knows how to make fire, he's beginning to prefer his meat raw. Did you ever imagine your pride and joy would become such a conservationist?
Where There Isn't Even Any Hollywood,
Todd Nugent
Name: rowdy rod
@what do you know,they live
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 02:09:30
Comments:
I seem to be missing a box of sunglasses, anyone seen this
Fagen guy lately?
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 01:42:22
Comments:
Ruby - I meant those swans in the summer, remember? Did you really buy that album? Listen to song 11 in headphones. He sings so great.
Meteor shower?
cmf: that was well put. You're a fucking radge.
Edd: look, here's ten bucks, go buy yourself an icecream.
Ole: yes, cowfrightness.
JM: that was well put.
Pete Fogel: what happened to that Steely Danmed CD?
YGK: where are yo man?
StAl: what happened to that contest?
Name: Neil Manilow
ToeBoy@Tuscan.com
Location: Es Ef, cal us
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 00:33:32
Comments:
My favourite Dan/Diamond collaborations:
1.Thank The Lord For The Nightfly
2.Song Sung Deacon Blues
3.Tommorrow's Girl You'll Be A Woman Soon
4.Brooklyn Roads
5.You don't Bring Me Green Flowers
6.Cracklin' Rose Darling
7.Turn That Heartlight Over Again
8.Solitary Third World ManHell, 2 more and I'd have a top ten list.
Name: johnboy
redme@catscratchfever
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 at 00:26:32
Comments:
Oleander: the bow hunter is Ted Nugent. About as unlike Rundgren as possible,except (I think) that both are from Detroit.
As a previous poster mentioned, Something-Anything and the Wizard/True Star recordings are close to spectacular. Rundgren also did some stuff with the Tubes just prior to the demise of their first incarnation. Ben Folds voice also reminded me of Rundgren's.
cmf: Who knows best what you like?
Name: Leonid
thelawofthesatellites
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 23:34:16
Comments:
Oppress not the cubs of the stranger, but
hail them as Sister and Brother.
For though they are little and fuzzy, it may
be the Tiger is their mother.
The Right Dynamic?
Secret Square
Name: Name Du Jour
yes
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 21:20:39
Comments:
Hey Roy Scam--
I had heard that "Ben Folds Five" emulated Todd Rundgren, now I guess I'll have to check 'em out. "Faithful" is a great Todd album!!
Dear Wrong Guestbook--
I guess if I'm gonna hear from you often, then we're gonna become REAL GOOD FRIENDS!!!!!
Name: oleander
you look absurdly sweet
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 20:28:42
Comments:
cmf--Chill! You missed Edd's point!
TruCom--Muchas gracias for the tips. Have you heard Bioritmo?
DecaDANt--Don't worry about it: your innermost thoughts have been picked up by everybody's fillings.
LP 2/ BS--Hey now, I'm no arbiter of bogus personae, just sharing my anxiety at ambiguity. Now I'm afraid that Myra will call Bab Sis down on us in a vengeful tornado. How about Pearl? Or Ambrose? Mad Mona? Kama? Semimojo? Pretzel? Cringemaker? Easy chair? Pepe? You know, there are a lot of cool ones out there.... PS, don't be intimidated by empty threats.
Night of the Living Todd: isn't he the guy who's really into bowhunting? And did a cameo in "Tapeheads"? That's all I know about him, but now I know where to listen.
Geena, Ruby, & Razor--Make that Spam meatballs au Dan, with an $80 bottle of wine and s'mores. Take one!
Drum performances that I'm nuts about part II: Surf &/or Die.
Name: Roy.Scam
i.ride.on.the.mail.train.baby..reelin.in.the.years
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 20:25:43
Comments:
Steve V-- I wonder if that writer has heard the title tracks from all of Chicago's albums.
It's hard not to like Niel Diamond for two reasons: 1) He was in "The Last Waltz and 2) His best song is about a guy talking to a chair.
Dr Mu: Was it Al Jardine who wrote one of Manilow's hits?
Wasn't Tim Curry in "Critters"?
The poster formerly known as LP2 (: When my son introduced me to Ben Folds Five, I told him that the group sounded a lot like a guy from my day named Todd Rundgren. A short time later, he brought home a Todd R CD, "Best of.." I think it's called. (So I guess he and I broke even on the broadening each other's horizons contest.) I hadn't heard Nice to Me, Get You a Woman, See the Light, Who's That Man since I gave up on vinyl; it was great.-- I think "Faithful" , however could be stuck in the showing-off, experimental bin.
Is it necessary to bring a gift to a meteor shower? See you all out there 2 A.M. EST. O.K.? Clas, you can sleep in; it's not visible to you till dog walking time.
RS
Name: millie james
hairzoo@webtv.net
Location: queens, ny usa
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 20:25:29
Comments:
absolutely love lyrics of the dan. my
instrumental favorites are guitar solo
in Third World Man and the entire " FEZ' composition.
Name: millie james
hairzoo@webtv.net
Location: queens, ny usa
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 20:18:38
Comments:
absolutely love lyrics of the dan. my
instrumental favorites are guitar solo
in Third World Man and the entire " FEZ' composition.
Name: millie james
hairzoo@webtv.net
Location: queens, ny usa
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 20:08:45
Comments:
Name: Wrong Guestbook
toddtoddtoddtoddtoddtoddtoddtoddtoddtodd
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 18:26:35
Comments:
To Babylon Sister: I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is WRONG GUESTBOOK and I'm getting the feeling your going to get to know me REAL well.WG
Name: Mandy-low
si, como no!!
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 16:49:04
Comments:
I know that all you Dan-sters think it's cool to rag on Barry, but isn't there room enough in the musical sphere of things to be able to have an appriciation for BOTH?? Only a snob would look down his nose at something/someone who that many people enjoy. I like everything from The 'Dan to Dean Martin, got something to say about that? Lay off Barry, for Christ' sakes!!
The guy aint' for everyone, but I think he's cool!! His new CD, "Manilow Sings Sinatra" is tre' cool---it's swingin!!check it out, if you're "Barely Man Enough"...............
Name: the "NEW" Babylon Sister (ex-LP2)--happy now?
okay
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 16:36:33
Comments:
Here's the new handle-- Anyone got a problem w/ it?? Okay, then!!
A big HI THERE to Sociable Hermit (of Mink Hollow?), and to you, Bob/Tedde-- I AM NOT ALONE IN TODD-LAND!!!!!!!!!!! (Are you listening Miss Crabtree??). I saw Todd playing at a small club in Redondo Beach, Ca., on 11/7. Just as you said, Herm, a very casual show, with Jesse Gress assisting on a couple of "With A Twist" numbers. The ukelele was a nice touch, too!! Rabid is a term I also use to describe my Todd addiction, and am often dissillusioned by the fact that many (most?) in the outside world react with a "Todd who?" response. This man has been touched by that spark of "Divine Fire" that SPEAKS to me. so,SO good to hear from all you other "Onionheads"!!!
Name: Barely Man Enough
Trying To Latch On Ti The New Swing Craze
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 16:24:12
Comments:
(Turns off the interstate)"Well, Looks Like We Made It, Mandy. Time for our Weekend In New England. Look, I know It's Just Another New Year's Eve, but by Daybreak, the New York City Rhythym could be gone, so, I've got something to ask you. Why Don't We Live Together? It Could Be Magic. We could make Beautiful Music together, and every night when you Lay Me Down, here, take a look, (unzips pants), just think, This One's For You. It's A Miracle that I even have anything remotely resembling this, really. I'd go into details, but, well, it's A Very Strange Melody. Come on, whadda 'ya say? Mandy?"
Name: TheStranger
pass the cuervo gold
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 14:49:20
Comments:
geena,
you've hit it. we ARE in the twilight zone. our Steely Dan message board has been taken over by mutant spores which listen to hornsby, manilow & diamond & then try to tell us nothing weird is going on. there must be a way out. grab my hand and we'll go toward the light!
Name: Ling
@cool change
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 14:34:57
Comments:
These pretzels are making me thirsty!
Name: J. Scott Strathmann (DecaDANt)
blues1451@mailexcite.com
Location: Monrovia, CA Duh
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 14:10:58
Comments:
Hello, all...
This is my first posting to any discussion group, in the 14 months I have been a net-viper. I guess I suffer acute spammanoia, but as a showing of the deepest regards and highest esteem to probably the greatest band that ever lived, I can suffer a little spamming. After all, it wouldn't be just any spam, it would be Dan Spam, and of that which would be most delicious to sift through, as I anxiously pick and poke through my E-mail, if as though I have any friends at all. In chatting at the 'Sign In Stranger', I find that I am almost scorned for not submitting my innermost thoughts here. So here are my innermost thoughts......(dramatic pause).......Whew! That was relieving!
Please spam the hell out of me, as I would hate to think that my 14 months of paranoia was in vain :-)
Here's to ya' Mr. Fagan and Mr. Becker. You guys are the BEST!!!
Kudos to you too, StAl, for a truly great website (hope this gets me an invite to your pancake breakfast).
And here's to all of the Dan fans that strive continuously to keep the culture alive!
Name: RubyBaby
faceup@random.universe.almost
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 13:52:06
Comments:
Walter: I wish I'd heard that interview! May I continue it for a sec?
If you had that computer software you mentioned (where you put in your life experiences and a couple of your favorite songs & hit "merge") what songs would you use today? What do you think the outcome would sound like?Digital Fly: I loved it. Did you hear me laughing?
rb
Name: Steve Vee
@Borders
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 12:55:26
Comments:
new book: Billboard Encyclopedia of Rock states:
Steely Dan had two hit singles on their 1st album: 'Do It Again' and the 'title track'......
I forget how the song 'Can't Buy A Thrill' went...can anyone hum a few bars...???/
where have all the good proofreaders gone??
Name: Dis'n Barry
fahgetabowtit
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 11:59:54
Comments:
Her name is Lola
I'd like to Pole' huh
In her hola
next to her molaPut that in your Barry pipe and smoke it.
Name: bob/tedde
Mr/Squonk/@cts./com
Location: s/d, c/a u/s/a
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 11:35:12
Comments:
Hiyas,
BT here, whiplashedly yanked from lurking status by two little words: Rundgren & Todd. As musical preferences go, Todd is a funny item for me. I stumbled upon his work kind of late in life (reletively speaking), at a time when, like now, a lot of my listening was/is for professional purposes. So unlike many artists i'm attracted to, (and even less attracted to) i am unfamiliar w/ a great deal of his prolific putout. It having been established then that I am far from a TR completest (especially when it comes to Utopia) run, i say, to your nearest Big Ass Corpglomerate Music &/Or Video outlet and buy Something/Anything, A Wizard/A True Star and Accappella (sspp). I promise the majority of you, you will find it far more appealing than the new Hornsby/Manilow/Diamond collab. BTW the next time you let "Hello, It's Me" caress your villi, listen to the production, and know (cuz I'm tellin' ya) that it was recorded *live* in the studio! Hey, I was impressed.RE: Neil Diamond: I'm A Believer, Cherry Cherry, Solitary Man, Brother Loves Traveling Salvation Show, Sweet Caroline. I don't switch channels when these songs come on the rayjo. In fact, sometimes, if no ones watching, I rotate the Vol. nob ever so slightly clockwise.....Hey, every once in a while you gotta grab some empty calories between those Steak n Lobster dinners.
RIP KK: Haven't heard all the facts yet. I hope you didn't join the Stupid Club.
Lovebob
Name: Luckless Pedestrian
accept.no.substitutes
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 10:53:54
Comments:
Thanks, Ole, for the sweet words. I *would* feel far less confused not seeing my handle plastered hither and yon.
Erstwhile-LP2: Babylon Sister was being used. But has anyone heard from her in a while?
St. Al: Do we need to institute a name registry? And when are you going to announce the winner of the contest? I'm still dying to find out which one I am. (And LP2 is too, no doubt.)
Name: Joe M.
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 10:37:00
Comments:
The only sketchy info so far on Kirkland's demise is that "drug paraphernalia was found near his partially decomposed body in his Queens apartment". Not a pretty sight my friends.
I also dug Kenny's work on brother Branford's "Crazy People Music" from back in '90.
Midnight - Les Dudek put out some stuff back in '94 called "Deeper Shades of Blues" that wasn't even visible on the '90's musical radar screen. I agree with you on "Say No More". "Old Judge Jones" is one of my own personal favorite guitar pieces. I always thought Les had the chops and the correct musical accent to work well on a Dan tune.
Name: Irwin
itsthesmileonmyface
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 09:04:54
Comments:
Ed- From what I've been reading, when it comes to any and everything, know one knows more than you...I saw Hornsby at a private party (500 people) just him and his piano, I had an open mind going in and he still did nothing for me. I guess it's hard to believe, because I am a big fan of the Dead.
Name: Sociable Hermit
OneMoreThing
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 08:24:18
Comments:
Hey,
One more thing. Here's a website for those interested.
alt.music.todd-rundgrenSee 'ya there
Herm
Name: Sociable Hermit
StillHere,Waiting
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 08:19:13
Comments:
Hello All,
Ahhh, Todd Rundgren! I have been fanatic for the man for over 20 years. He, Steely Dan, Elvis Costell, and a few others, are the ones that have always been there for me when I needed someone the most. I love his music, love his playing, but most of all, I love his lyrics. Existential poet may seem an odd moniker to lay on him, but if you have access to them, listen to, "Sometimes I Don't Know", "Just One Victory", "The Verb, 'To Love'", and others. Songs like these are what make fans loyal throughout the years because he is putting into words the felings that many of us hide from the world: fear, confusion, dismay, and then show us in the end that there is hope. Add to this his long list of pop friendly songs, "Hello, It's Me", "I Saw The Light", "Love Is The Answer", "We Gotta Get You A Woman", and dozens more, and you have a remarkable artist. He also produced Meatloaf's "Bat Out Of Hell", (played on it too!), Patti Smith's "Wave", XTC's "Skylarking", Badfinger's "Straight Up", the first two albums by The Pursuit Of Happiness, and many others.
When I was a teenager in the mid-late 70's, I hung around with a small group of rabid Todd fans, and therefore, everyone we subsiquently met became Todd fans. It was a wonderful world we had. Then college came, and I was confused and disillusioned to find that very few people in the "real" world actually knew who Todd was. I proselytized a dozen or so, namely women that I came into contact with, but that was it. I am still disillusioned that he gets so little airplay. Classic rock stations should be going nuts over the volume of great songs in his canon, but no. This man has the respect and reverence of millions of fans, and musicians, (well, maybe not millions of musicians, but alot, nonetheless), and we hear very little except what we place on our turntables or CD trays.
To those curious about hearing him for the first time, I would suggest "Something/Anything", "Hermit Of Mink Hollow", the live double CD-LP "Back To The Bars", and from the group Utopia, "Adventures In Utopia". I do have to disagree, though, with the suggestion of the double studio album "Todd". As much as I like it, I do not think it is a good place to start for the uninitiated. Todd is also known for taking chances with his music, and sometimes it takes a while before you grasp the pleasure of what he's doing. Rolling Stone's Album Guide says, "suffer along with him, and you'll discover some lasting treasures among the cosmic debris and failed experiments". As much as I disagree with the hyperbole of this statement, I can say that there are many songs that are only welcome by those who already love him. If you were going out on a date with someone who all your friends say is the greatest person in the world, why would you want to start off with him/her showing off his/her most difficult side? Obviously, you want to see/hear the joy and pleasure that he can bring you before you see all that comes with it. But, don't get me wrong, this "date" is not an axe-murdering stalker. Todd is wonderful, and sometimes incredibly ambitious and adventurous. I advise all to try him out.
He is currently touring the coasts, performing primarily by himself, with Jesse Gress occassionally accompanying him for a few songs. I hear Todd is mostly solo, playing guitar, piano, ukelele (!), and, NO COMPUTER! If he crosses the midwest, I plan on seeing him as much as I can. He is one of the few reasons I have for coming out into civilization.Sorry for the essay. Hope I didn't bore anyone.
Later,
Herm
Name: fezo
helpless, helpless, helpless
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 08:03:21
Comments:
And, of course, Robbie Robertson (and presumably the rest of The Band except for Richard Manuel who appears throughout the film to be too stoned to be aware of even his own existence) thought enough of Diamond to include him in the lineup for "The Last Waltz"
Name: cmf
huh?
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 07:43:53
Comments:
First it was...
"I am listening to 'Happy Feet' by 8 1/2 Souvenirs.
You all should also."
Now it's...
"When it comes to matters of taste, I do, in fact, know what appeals to me better than anyone else on the planet."
So in other words...
When it comes to matters of taste, you do, in fact, know what appeals to you better than anyone else on the planet - and we should all co-opt your idea of taste.
My my, we are arrogant, aren't we...
Name: Edd
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 07:22:43
Comments:
When it comes to matters of taste, I do, in fact, know what appeals to me better than anyone else on the planet.
Name: concerned-music-fan
To:_The_GB_taste_police
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 06:54:00
Comments:
Wow, Manilow = Diamond = Hornsby?
That's one helluva stretch people. Here's a short list of folks who thought well enough of Mr. Hornsby and his music to lend their services and positive commentary on some of his recent projects...
Branford Marsalis
Jeff Lorber
Bela Fleck
Downbeat
Pat Metheny
Jerry GarciaOh, and a coupla excerpts from someone you should all be familiar with..
Walter Becker: "That was Bruce Hornsby. Basically this guy is such a good singer and songwriter, you gotta like most of what he does."
You'll note that "most" is the operative word here. You don't have to like everything to appreciate a body of work.
...but some of you, of course, know better than any of these guys...
Name: The Divine Miss M
geraldowasarollinstone
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 at 01:54:45
Comments:
Truth is Barry was a good, hardworking boy who stole shamelessly from Chopin because he was encouraged to.
Now, in regards to you ruthless bastards, go trademark your snore so I can prove it was you who both deprived me of sleep and bored me pissless.
Otherwise, send it off in a letter to yourself.
Get it?
Helping My Lesbian Friends Adopt From a Distance,
Bette "Tiny Dancer for a Day" Midler
%^&)#@$%&&: And keep the seat down! How else am I gonna stay on top of my weight?
Name: Schwinn
hummin
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 23:04:39
Comments:
Oleander: That's Becker's baseball bat breaking out the windshield of Donald's Kamakiriad on the back cover of 11TOW.
Didn't someone mention the glimmer twins a few archives ago?
Sammy Sosa / Mark McGwire. So is Ken Griffey like Larry Carlton?
Rose: The acronymous bookends are devine! Can't wait to put the new one where it belongs.
schwinntheexceedinglymoodybastard
Name: Miss Crabtree
gotobedit'sgettinglate
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 21:42:47
Comments:
Luckless 2,Anything "sister" fits you well.
Name: Luckless Pedestrian 2
sometimes
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 20:32:24
Comments:
Hi Gang!!
Okay, due to (un) popular demand, I will change my handle. I didn't know that their was already a "Luckless"-- I'm new here!!
How about "Babylon Sister", would that one be alright? Vote!!
Midnite Cruiser--
I remember Les Dudek!! It's been awhile since I've heard that name--brings back memories of the '70's.Letterman--
To answer your question, yes, many times. What I did about it? Well......Oleander--
Okay, changing the name. Do you approve?Geena--
It's cool about your friend. Tell her that she is not alone in Todd-land!! Hope you enjoy the S/A lp. there might be some newer stuff that you'd like (better?) too. It all depends. Let me know what you thought.Rose darling--
Hopefully the "handle" change will help end the confusion! I do the Rock!! Gotta Boogie, too!! Let me think a little, and I'll get back to you with a fav's list. Good excuse to give 'em all a listen again, thanks!! Never heard the "Baby Love" cover. Bet it's good, though!!
Name: JosieDanFan
hiya!
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 20:16:26
Comments:
Hey guys...
It's 10:12pm central time. If anyone gets this before 10:45pm central time please come into the chat room. It would be much appreciated by me.
:o)
Thanks a bunch
JDF
P.S. David in the Florida Room..you're a cutie!! Nice pic.
Name: Geena
Got the Steely Dan Blues
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 19:59:37
Comments:
RubyBaby:
I'm all for the "Cooking to Steely Dan" show with your hosts, RubyBaby and Geena. Never mind the air guitars, I guess I was pretty tired when I wrote that. I'll use my Alvarado acoustic and some old '75 Fender Stratocaster that an old boyfriend left at my apartment. He never did come back to claim it...mine now! We'll make StAl's meatballs with my sauce, and maybe a special segment on how to make the perfect Cuba Libre, Oleander can dance the famous merengo while she produces.Oleander: Yes, we trust you. We're ready for our close up now!
Michael C. Packard: What a great story! Wish I could hear some of those reels from your dad's time.
Stranger: Absolutely LOVED your take on Steely Dan as the lion stalking through the jungle. We think too much alike, this is scary. I think, you speak, brrrr.... I liked Hornsby through his first 2 albums, then I quickly lost interest. Howevah, Manilow and Diamond are really not my style, the ultimate torture would be to be locked up in an isolation booth on the "$64,000 Question" and having to listen to them while you wait, and wait and wait and then realizing that someone lost the key and the only town locksmith is on vacation. Ok, I'm rambling now, but if others like them, that's cool by me. My 5 year old nephew adores Neil Diamond thanks to his mother aka my sister, and can sing all of his songs verbatim from his greatest hits album. He tortures me constantly when I visit by putting on the CD and forcing me to listen to him sing. I wouldn't mind listening to him sing if he didn't play music in the background. I'll find the cave, you bring the mustard and warm water.
Lester: You too? EEK! Stranger, are we in the Twilight Zone?
LP2 & Midnight: I'll try "Something Anything" first and will report my results. Thanks, and LP2, my friend is still in the stone age sans e-mail.
Vado con pace....
Name: true companion
xxxxxx@earthlin.net
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 19:52:33
Comments:
oleander: the best salsa band I've seen live is El Gran Combo. Another great one is Sonora Poncena, also from PR. They play occasionally in New York.
Name: oleander
oowee, oowee baby
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 19:29:35
Comments:
Dear Stranger--Ah, righteous rock indignation! But the point is that we all have a soft, dark underbelly. Some are just willing to bare it. So take comfort in knowing that if you need to bare yours too, it's--well, not any safer than it's ever been, but at least others have been there.
MCP--Wild story! A sea cruise sounds great, but I'd rather do it on land where I have an easier escape route. Is Nawlins on? Fer sure!
bobknox--cool. We have similar tastes, except maybe Deodato. What salseros do you like?
Rosie D--Great autobio titles & Schwinn unpackings. Suggestion: if you have any more time on your hands, help Luckless 2 find another moniker. No, I don't think we'll be seeing them voluntarily "Behind the Music," though I'd love to be proven wrong.
LP 2--Really. There are a lot of other ones left, and those of us who know & love Luckless the First would be either happier or less confused. Or are you his alter ego, or anima?
Joe--With you about Kirkland.
Clas--Cowfrightness?
Letterperson--um, how about the reverse? The highway divider shrub lubricity meter pins with, believe it or not, "On The Dunes," and more believably, "I Got The News."
Ruby--Too much responsibility! I thought I'd just get to feel important & eat the food!
Name: Rose Darling
@Pedestrian Crossing
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 18:56:57
Comments:
I don't get it about Todd Rundgren, but I sure the heck would rather bang on the drum all day than work methinks.
Luckless # ?:
What's going on? How many of you are there? I is confused.
So what are your favorite Tim songs then, kindred spirit?
I like `em all, but didn't care for Wake Nicodemus, Alan and the Anyone Who Had a Heart cover. I love Tim's version of the Beatles' "I Will." S.O.S. and Simplicity are two of my very favorites. Did you ever hear Tim's cover of "Baby Love" ?David in the Chat Room:
I check in there once in a while at night. Mostly at the top of an hour. Are you Central Time?Dr. Mu:
That is one truly beautiful sax solo in the Caves, you right on.
The Royal Scam cd has stayed my favorite for a while now.
What do you mean by that remark about "it's so overdubbed."
Enlighten this musical layman please.Schwinn The Eskimo Mountain Biker Dude:
For some reason, the SEMB thing was getting to me one day before you answered my query about what it stood for, and with way too much time on my hands, these were the phrases which I conjured up for the acronym's meaning:Sincerely Emulating Mr. Becker
Supporting Ebullient Mild Brouhahas
Superbly Elucidating Myopic Biographies
Secretly Eloping Miss Bouvier
Simulating Experiments w/Myriad Biospheres
Stealthily Eating Mint Brownies
Sordidly Encountering Mysterious Beings
Stylish Entertainer of Mysterious Banter
Strenously Employing a Menacing Brigade
Setting Eager Minds Burning
Stimulating Embryonic Mondo Breakdown
Surreptitiously Entering Master Bedrooms
Safely Envisioning Massive Biohazards
Significant Elder Member Bourgeoisie
Simultaneously Elite Member Bureaucracy
Squandering Every Moment Blamelessly
Squelching Existance of Mindless Brethren
Shamelessly Embroiled in Minor Blackmail
Suffering Entire Mental Breakdown
Still Enslaved by Megalomaniac Barons
Name: horny cheerleader
isawyoucummin
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 18:24:20
Comments:
unh, huh-uhnn unh huh-uhnn uhn huh-uhnn
tortured angel. uh huh-uhn uh huh uhn your rising sign.
i drink your wine. dark. see?
fuckin sexiest song i've ever heard.
love my drug. love that bassline. down to the bottom. period.
Name: RubyBaby
the l@st picasso
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 13:39:00
Comments:
Anthony: Good boy! I'm sure you deserve to be there, but you may now come out of your casa del pero for a few. Show me how to program that Off The Record station onto my car radio. Can we have coffee?
Clas: I haven't heard that one yet. I just got it! And I've been very busy with a house guest. I've heard most of the 1st cd. It's awesome! I'll comment more after I've tasted the whole thing. You didn't warn me about the butt-ugly cover, though, dude!
RazorBoy: Tolerance is good. Now I'll be less afraid to be me. How did you know I always make the rice?
Geena: Air guitars? Why? I love the feeling of a real one in my arms. Let's make St.Al's meatballs first. I'm in the mood for Italian anything.
Oleander: As the Producer of Cooking To Steely Dan, you get to decide just about everything. Geena & I trust you (don't we, Geena?) And please, dance up a storm!
rb
Name: Anthony, at his bar & grill
Somewhere in the Dog House
USA Baby!!
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 12:51:12
Comments:
Hip, hip!! Had a really great Steely Dan moment in the car today, I heard them on the radio show "Off The Record" I'm sure you all heard it, but I'll bore you with a couple of the details.
The show format, for those who don't know, is some music, some interview, some more music, some more interview, etc. All the songs I heard any length of were from Aja, although they had a few shorts from elsewhere.
Donald was asked, which of the two of them (meaning D & W) was responsible for what parts of the Steely Dan sound? His response, They've worked together for so long and learned a lot from each other that there is no single contribution from each of them, but rather a melded product.
One of them, maybe the announcer stated that they broke up after Gaucho because they were of the feeling that they had to "out do" themselves every time they went into studio, making each trip into the studio better, more perfect than the last.
Walter made a comment about the use of computers for song writing. He said it takes a lot of time write a song cuz you write a lyric, rewrite, and rewrite, etc. He said you should just be able to stick your life experiences in the computer with a couple of your favorite songs and hit "merge"!
Other info that was of some interest, in keeping with their nomination to the Rock and Roll hall of fame, the first two albums will be re-released, but with new, extensive liner notes from each Donald and Walter.
And finally, no news on the release of the upcoming (is it really coming??) new material.
The bar never looked finer. Thinking about putting on some Neil Diamond, maybe "Memphis Streets"
Name: letterman
hungoverinmanhattan
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 11:54:35
Comments:
seems like i'm too lazy today to use caps...think it would be cool if some astute lady started a post it thing with me
tell me the last time you were horny and heard a dan song - - - what was the song? where were you at? what did you do about it?(note: outside the last time they toured-everybody was then)
etc etc etc
note me >>> we can cut through all this clutter....
Name: Midnite Cruiser
a lil ole farm in Virginia
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 11:45:31
Comments:
Really sorry to hear about Kenny Kirkland....last time I saw him was two years ago when I went to see Sting in concert....Kenny was walking with a cane and had a bad limp then....did that have anything to do with why he died? I haven't seen any reports of his death yet so I'm clueless.
Does anyone remember Les Dudek? His "Say No More" LP in the late 70's was the thing that got me from wanting to play guitar to actually playing it. I haven't heard or seen anything about him in years and really loved his playing. A lot of what eventually became Toto (Jeff Porcaro tie in) played with him before there was a Toto. Any info would be appreciated.
Have a great weekend everyone!
Name: DrMu
manners maketh a man
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 11:38:43
Comments:
Wynton: For once (lately) your right. Kenny and Branford really made "Nothing Like the Sun" shine. "Englishman in New York" has got to be my favorite Sting recordings. They must have inspired Mr. Sting to write some really lyrical melodies on that album instead of the usual modal stuff. It is a tragic loss. They were even awesome the first week of the Tonight Show redux before that psycho producer told them not to play jazz during the intermissions... and they were the only reason you were good back during the Black Codes and Think of One days.
David: Yeah, I remember hearing he died from an anaphylactic reaction (severe allergic).
Bob: Welcome...yeah love those Isley...that guitar on "Who's That Lady" and "Summer Breeze" is chilling...and that funky drive on Lady
Musicians/Trivia experts: ...been listening to more of Royal Scam lately. For a while it was my favorite Dan release, then my least favorite. It's so overdubbed - can't wait for Roger to get to the new remaster/engineered version. Now I'm leaning back the other way again...just love that Sax solo in Caves of Altamira. The echo - like in a cave - and the purity of the sound. I was wondering a) whether that was John Klemmer (sounds like) and b) was that a tenor sax (hiigher register) - it's so pure -it's almost like a soprano.
Name: "Lady Luck"-less Pedestrian 2
you can
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 11:22:03
Comments:
Hey David!!
Ain't it great to have others who share the Todd/'Dan thing?!!!
Kasim was performing again last year w/ Todd during his "With A Twist" tour. What a great name for a cat! Who were you out on the road with? You go, boy!!
Name: David in the Florida Room
roadwork@gigs.com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 10:18:48
Comments:
Hello Dan Fanners, Just Got Back From some Roadgigs...here in the Sunshine State to Find a Lot of Todd Rundgren Posts...WOW Steely Dan And TR!...I'm so proud of you folks!
This Place Just Keeps Getting Better.
I Still have My NAZZ albums and remember playing " Open My Eyes" when I was 14.....and on the Wall here in my studio is an Autographed Pic of Willy Wilcox drumming with Utopia...It's signed by the whole band Todd,Willy,Kasim and Roger..and our Cat is Named after Kasim (a great bassist and vocalist now with Meatloaf..or Potroast as Letterman calls him) My wife and I have seen Utopia many times,have all the Albums and are almost as big Todd Fans as Steely Fans...(Check out Todd's Interactive CD )Also, It's pretty documented that Jeff Porcaro did "a little" Toot...
But He Died from a Bad Mix of Pesticides he was spraying in his Back yard in L.A.AND......I hope to see more of you in the Chat Room.....I usually go there Monday or Tuesday nights...and have had the pleasure of the company of the Lovely JosieDan Fan,Hermit,Lester,Major Dude and The VERY COOL ST AL.
Later, David
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 03:58:08
Comments:
The last song on Hornsbys Spirit trail is called Swan Song (remember Ruby?). It is two parts. The last is just with drums , a shaker and the grand piano. It's so fucking great, so close, you can hear the pianopedals.
My Sternum Agony is gone. And I'm afraid. What will happen now? What will take it's place? Cowfrightness? Panic attacks in elevators?
Pompe destroyed two shoes this night, he couldn't sleep, two shoes from two different pair of shoes.
StAl - what happened with that contest?
Pete Fogel - what happened to that Steely Danmed CD?
YGK - what happened with that package? Yesterday a FedEx-truck eased into my space, but then it turned left and disappeared. Where are you?
Howdy folks
Name: auntiechrist
I'msofuckinlonely@armageddon.com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 03:01:11
Comments:
Manilow.....Diamond.....Hornsby.....The end is surely near.....
Name: bob knox
bobknox@earthlink.net
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 00:35:55
Comments:
First time poster, who likes both old and new...Florida Room, True Companion, also Tower of Power, Rufus, Earth, Wind and Fire, Stevie Wonder, Isley Bros, George Duke, Deodato (Remember?), and....salsa!!
Name: soul survivor
bobknox@earthlink.net
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 00:23:23
Comments:
First time poster, who also likes old soul and funk...Re: Tower of Power, Earth, Wind and Fire, George Duke, Stevie Wonder, Rufus, Isley Bros., Deodato, Doobies w/Michael McDonald...
Name: Wynton Marsalis
noodlin'
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 at 00:19:36
Comments:
Gotta say this about Kenny. When Sting asked him to be a part of his first solo effort, he refused. (That was before America had a black president...)
True, Sting was overshadowed by his own ambition but soon brought the heavies to lite. All but Kenny, that is. The song, "Englishman in New York" was written especially for Kenny as you will soon see for yourself on an upcoming VH-1 "special". In the meantime, plug in the headphones and imagine what "Nothing Like the Sun" would have sounded like with Kenny's stark, minimalistic, faltering yet anxious chops in the mix.
Rest in Peace, Mr. Kirkland. You're a legal alien.
Name: Luckless Pedestrian 2
you bet!!
Location: San Diego, Ca
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 23:12:07
Comments:
Hey "Admiral" Byrd--
I loved your Story about Todd (as you all know, my #1 FAV)
What a "trip"!! Still fryin' in the 90's....who would've guessed! And just two hours before showtime, eh?? Tell me, how
was that show?? Any photos?Rose Darling--
Yes, all three. "Read My Lips", "Fearless", and "Simplicity". Personally, I think he's fabulous.Miss CrabAss--
I thought the motorcycle drumkit was quite innovative!
They even had a name for it, the Trapisaurus, or something like
that. Lighten up, Princess. As Todd once said, "You better get
your trip together before you step in here with us!!" Maybe that's why you are "Miss". You need to get yourself some, honey!! Quick!!
Name: Joe M.
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 21:18:41
Comments:
Kenny Kirkland RIP...
One of the best of this generation. A tragic loss indeed.
Name: Peg
totzke@usa.net
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 20:54:43
Comments:
Lester: Neil Diamond???? OK, I admit it, my favorite is Cherry Cherry. Why do I love that song so much? I don't know; can't quite put my finger on it. Had a special treat two days ago - was riding in a taxi in SanFran, and it came on the radio. From that moment on, I just knew my entire day was destined to be magnificent. And I was right.
Name: Collin
yu147795@yorku.ca
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 19:27:58
Comments:
I am looking for a stereo copy of Steely Dan on Don Kirschners Rock Concert. It was played on VH1 a while back. E-mail if you have it. I can trade.
Collin
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Damn, Won't The Rain Ever Stop In The Pineywoods Forest of Deep East
Texas, USA
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 19:27:39
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!
Regarding George Harrison, I think he might have played under the pseudonym of L'Angelo D'Misteriso (sic) or something like that on the "Badge" album of Cream----trivia stuff.
A good memory was seeing (front row center section, Oleander) of Mountain, with Leslie West, Felix Pappalardi, et. al.----Black Sabbath debut American tour, with a very yound Ozzy Osbourne----Mountain was superb!!!
Read my earliest post on St. Al's most fabulous Guestbook to discover I have ALWAYS used my real name, since February, 1996, when I proposed a DanCruise. Josie seemed the only one interested, but sent me a good boot of "Live At Greatwoods", Mansfield, MA, 1994 tour. That cruise "thought" and proposal died quickly, as most just "poo-pooed" the idea.
However, since traveling extensively and taking four cruises since the original proposal----is the DanFest for New Ahhlans still a possibility??
Please advise.
Saludos!!
Michael
; )
Name: Schwinn "Admiral" Byrd
radiofreearctic
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 18:59:58
Comments:
I feel like an obsessed Dr. Frankenstein chasing my monster to "the top of the world" where I will either find him, confront him and die. Or not find him and die anyway. Thank God there's Todd Rundgren to divert my attention...
I sold Todd an ounce-and-half of the most potent psylocibin cubensis imaginable about two hours before a show at the Austin Opera House in October, 1992. Todd actually invited me into the "Magical Mystery Bus" where he seriously queried me as to the potency of the parcel before ingesting. Noticing a black-light glow emanating from the back of the vehicle, I motioned for him to follow me. It was his "dressing room", and hanging from a peg on the shower door was a curiously disturbing "skeleton suit"--basically flat-black tights with luminescent bones stitched on the fabric. "Oh, my halloween costume', he quipped after noticing my interest. "Well", I stated as I drew closer and opened the bag to reveal the unearthly glow of its contents, "Looks like it's Halloween..."
Anyway, this scenario could never have happened with Barry Manilow and I'm glad. Some performers are made for the Boston Pops and some aren't--though I suspect Barry would cut a fine form in Todd's skeleton suit...
Back to the Dog Sled,SEMB
Name: Jeff (the Walrus was Paul) Lynn(d)e
with my whole lotta spendin' money
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 18:50:36
Comments:
...the pathetic things is that George didn't even write that, his last #1 or his first (if you believe the lawsuit).
Name: George Harrison
this song is just six words long
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 18:35:21
Comments:
I can beat that:
Got my mind set on you
Got my mind set on you
Got my mind set on you
Got my mind set on you
(chorus)
Got my mind set on youGot my mind set on you
Got my mind set on you
Got my mind set on you
Got my mind set on you(repeat chorus)
(repeat)
Name: Manilow Memories
@thecopa.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 18:00:45
Comments:
Closet Manilow fans unite!
Somebody was looking for the lyrics to "Copacabana?" Here you go:Her name was Lola
She was a showgirl
With yellow feathers in her hair
And a dress cut down to there
She would merengue
And do the cha-cha
And while she tried to be a star, Tony always tended bar
Across the crowded floor
They worked from eight till four
They were young and they had each other
Who could ask for more(chorus)
At the Copa
Copacabana
The hottest spot north of Havana
(here) at the Copa
Copacabana
Music and passion were always the fashion at the Copa
They fell in love
His name was Rico
He wore a diamond
He was escorted to his chair
He saw Lola dancing there
And when she finished
He called her over
But Rico went a bit too far, Tony sailed across the bar
And then the punches flew
And chairs were smashed in two
There was blood and a single gunshot
But just who shot who(repeat chorus)
She lost her love
Her name is Lola
She was a showgirl
But that was thirty years ago
When they used to have a show
Now it's a disco
But not for Lola
Still in the dress she used to wear
Faded feathers in her hair
She sits there so refined
And drinks herself half blind
She lost her youth and she lost her Tony
Now she's lost her mind
(repeat chorus)
Don't fall in love
Don't fall in loveTHIS LYRIC SERVICE IS BROUGHT TO YOU COURTESY OF THE
BUG THE SHIT OUT OF STRANGER AND LUCKLESS-1 CORPORATION
c1998 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
Name: JosieDanFan
I'm steaming up the windows in my Kamakiriad on the Trans-Island Skyway
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 17:16:11
Comments:
Hello fellow Dan fans!
Rose: Well said dear. Give 'em hell! :o) You should try and find "The Worst Witch" just for Tim Curry's song in it. It's great. You might be able to find it at Blockbuster.Lester: You ARE pretty fly for a white guy! I agree with the snooze rock thing. But I can't get behind Neil Diamond. I just can't see it. I have to agree with Razor boy, viva la differance! To each his own I guess.
Oleander: Both of the songs have made it to my play list. Good taste my friend!
Digital Fly: very interesting..thank you for sharing!
LP2: I believe I first saw it about 8 years ago on Showtime or HBO. But I've seen it several times here and there all over the place since.
Well I guess that's all for now..see y'all later.
JDFP.S. Does anyone use the Chatroom besides Lester and David in the Florida room, and myself?
Name: TheStranger
we got heavy rollers
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 17:09:34
Comments:
m. packard,
thoroughly enjoyed your aja'n memories. just don't spring any manilow or neal diamond on me and we'll get along fine.
Name: Darrell Castleberry "The Caz"
CazRNBSN@aol.com
Location: Biloxi, MS USA
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 17:00:56
Comments:
've been a Dan Fan ever since I can remember. I recall the 1st time I heard their music while working for my uncle in his electric shop. I heard AJA on an AOR station in Mobile, AL and ever since then I was hooked. I couldn't believe the precision and the grandure of the tune. I instantly also became an instant Steve Gadd enthusiast as well. Since then I've collected just about every American made vinyl and silicon pressing I could get my hands on. I've even managed to snag a few imports and bootlegs (sorry guys). One of the most eventful milestones, rights-of-passage was attending the Kamakiriad tour in Houston,TX at the Woodlands Pavilion. If it were possible to experience an orgasm without direct genital contact....I had one there. Clarence was there (yes !) and the guys gave me an excellent example of why they still rate as one of the best bands I've ever heard. Their combination of jazz-rock fusion with a trademarked chord progression (absolutely off the beaten path) and innovative, twisted, (possibly biographical) lyrics will keep them on my A+ list forever! Thanx Don & Walt and to all who keep them going. You're a credit to the human soul!
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Soaked In The Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 16:54:50
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!!
As if anyone really cared, I still enjoy "Ramblin' Gamblin' Man" from the Bob Seger System album. Oh yeah, I did buy the Chicago Transit Authority album when it was released, as well as Zappa's "Freak Out", QuickSilver Messenger Service's "Happy Trails", Led Zeppelin 1, Cream's "Disraeli Gears,"Truth" by Jeff Beck, "Headhunters" with Herbie Hancock, and a lot of other rather obscure albums at that time . . .
Okay, 'where' can you hear the Dan songs halfway around the world? Sorry, Clas, this is still quite a distance from Sweden (incidentally, one of my favorite countries), but where else but the Philippine Islands, where the old club I used to manage (Dad owned it) still has not been 'blown away' by typhoons, rampaged by the local Constabulary, surviving Marco's "Martial Law" regime, etc. North of Manila (another armpit of the world), is a suburb called Paranaque. Located on Sucat Road, ask someone (taxi or 'Jeepney' driver or some of the beautiful Filipinas) the location of the "Nipa Hut" bar. It used to be the only bar for about 10 miles.
Dad, a civilian in the export business, and long ago deceased, used to play with the likes of Louis Armstrong and other so-called "big bands" of the forties and fifties, of which I still have a few old reel-to-reel tapes of some of the sets. Anyway, (I realize I am ramblin'), Dad was prolific at almost any musical instrument, excelling on the piano, marimba, saxaphone, trumpet, guitar, banjo, mandolin, steel drums . . .
well, you get the picture.Dad invited me to come over after I got out of college, in 1975, and placed a 'major order' for some 'stuff' for the bar. As many of you know, electricity in some countries is 220 AC, so this was a challenge to find projector bulbs for the projector, strobe lights, certain valves for the saxaphone, trumpet, etc., in the good ol' USA. Since we had an original Wurlitzer jukebox in the club, he requested I bring along some '45's, my choice. Well, I won't bore you with everything I selected, but concentrate on the Steely Dan '45's I took with me. They were obverse and reverse sides, as follows:
"Do It Again/Fire In The Hole"
"Show Biz Kids/Razor Boy"
"My Old School/Pearl-Of-The-Quarter"
"Rikki Don't Lose That Number/Any Major Dude (Will Tell You)"
Now for the interesting part of this saga. Filipino bars have what is known as "Hospitality Girls", who incidentally, have to have monthly doctor's visits to check for communicable diseases, if they work in clubs----(damn, a third world country with a good idea). Dad put me in charge of 'recruiting' the girls, (in addition to my management duties), which required I get on a cruise ship and go to the islands searching for girls to work at the "Nipa Hut" bar. Naturally, I only picked the ones which looked 'homely' and didn't know any English---LOL!!!
Now, Filipinos are GREAT at mimicking almost anything they hear, musically. The house band, when I returned one afternoon from getting several cases of San Miguel beer, was rehearsing. They were playing, "My Old School". Actually, they were pretty damn good at playing the Dan songs I took with me, and loaded into the Wurlitzer.
UNLIKE MOST Filipino bars, the so-called "Ladies Drinks" which men (bar patrons) would purchase for the "Hospitality Girls", contained bonafide alcohol I would buy, usually wine or liqueurs. Thus, unlike the other clubs which served the ladies water or soft drinks, about 10:00 p.m., the place would really get to rockin'. I was surprised when the band one night got real tight (I served 'em all the San Miguel they wanted) played the eight Steely Dan songs from the jukebox which I had brought with me to the club----Dad and I joined them for "Do It Again", "My Old School", and "Fire In The Hole"----a memorable night when I tallied up the night's receipts.
As time went on, the "Hospitality Girls" who lived in a barracks type of setting (quite plush, really) above the club started dating the 'Guys-in-the-Band", and all went to Hell. Although all of the girls were quite 'good', the band took a lot out of them, and most definitely put a lot into them, became quite jealous of the bar patrons. As the "Nipa Hut" manager, I fired the band one afternoon, and sent them on-their way.
What to do for a band that night? A group of active G.I.'s from Olongapo City (Subic Bay), and Clark AFB happened into the club. Dad and I took the stage and started some improvisational jazz on the guitar and sax----playing along with the Wurlitzer '45's. I asked if anyone wanted to join in the jam session. Three of the G.I.'s came up, one on drums, one on bass, and one on marimba. We played Steely Dan, blues, and assorted rock---- it became a very memorable occasion. I said "all drinks are on the house tonight". Dad jammed like I had not heard him in several years, and some of the "Hospitality Girls" joined in the harmony vocals-----by the way, just 'where' are you in the world today, Cora??
As I listen to the song "Aja", it reminds me of the "Nipa Hut", the beautiful and sensuous Filipina women, and Dad.
The Wurlitzer is still probably playing, with the Steely Dan '45's loaded (jukebox was free---just 'push-the-buttons').Saludos!!!
Michael
; )In 197
Name: Rose Darling
@ I'm OK, You're OK (maybe not)
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 16:01:03
Comments:
Rumour Mongrel, er... Monger:
Wouldn't that be nice if it was true ! Funny thing is, an autobiography actually penned by our idols probably would have about as much character detail as their songs do. Maybe they'll call it: "Steely Dan: What You Wanna Know We Still Won't Tell You Anyway." Or "Steely Dan: Our Fans Still Don't Get It." Or "Steely Dan: Mystery Is Our Whole Gig."Luckless: As I do, YOU have all three Tim Curry albums???
Josie: Nope, I didn't see The Worst Witch.
Miss Crabby Tree: So who put you in charge of rights? Get thyself to detention hall. Oh, I get it, you are a secret member of The Everyone-Should-Have-My-Musical-Tastes-Police ! I should have known by the nightstick of your logic. Or are you a frustrated still in the closet Barry Manilow fan? Oh wait, I've seen this kind of thing before. It's post-Spice Girl Fan Club sign-up trauma. :D :D :D :D
Go ahead, just try and throw me out of this forum ! No freakin' principal's office for me, m'aam.
Name: Loch Ness Pedestrian
@the bottom of a dark Scottish lake
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 15:47:33
Comments:
Miss Crabtree: was that on purpose that you mangled Luckless' name(s) like that I'm LOL, you LOL!!!
Stranger: Hey, Neil Diamond's down here. Wanna join us for a Guiness?OK, I'm an idiot: WHO IS TODD RUNDGREN AND WHAT DID HE SING, OR WRITE, OR ACT IN??!!?!?!
Name: TheStranger
shine up the battle apple
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 15:06:16
Comments:
when clas said there are some things hornsby does better than fagen, i sort of let it go. clas is a good sort & i figured maybe he hit his head on some swedish ice & besides, someone else will get mean. i rebuked him only mildly. but those weren't my true emotions. i was lying to myself. now i'm hearing praise for manilow and even fucking neal diamond. Steely Dan is a lion stalking through the jungle. manilow, hornsby et al are occasional mosquitoes landing on this lion's ass. there is nothing they do better than becker-fagen. nothing. that includes ping-pong. but i have to say, diamond is the absolute worst. the dregs, what fell through the bottom of the barrel. the formica-songster. he has been writing and releasing the same fucking song over and over again for 30 years with different lyrics. now that i know there are Dan fans who enjoy such revolting music i may rethink my whole life, perhaps even find a vacant cave next to hermit. this may take some time. where did i go wrong? the stones, dylan, brubeck, miles davis, csn, joni mitchell -- this i can understand. neil diamond is mustard and warm water.
Name: Miss Crabtree
wow-a motorcycle drum kit
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 14:23:49
Comments:
Come on Luckness, it's bed time. Todd will still be here in the morning when you wake up. Say good night to everybody now, ok? Give mommy a kiss and go to sleep.
Name: Lester the night(pretty fly, for a white guy)
uhha uhha
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 12:53:19
Comments:
I have to tell ya, u guys have thrown me throw a loop with some of these closet musical taste like Manilow and Hornsby.
I have always considered them "Snooze Rock" along with Kenny G.
Paul Davis! NO OFFENSE!
I am a closet Neil Diamond fan! I feel better now I finally came out with that. Lets just keep it between us. I cant think of anything more embarassing then running into a friend at a Neil Diamond concert! If I did I guess I'd have to lie and say "yeah well I promise my mom I'd take her to see him!" So what r u doing here?
JDF- Who is Tim Curry?schwappah- Go Bulls!!!
Name: Luckless Pedestrian 2
nicole.pouliot@gte.net
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 10:37:48
Comments:
Hey, Michael--
I wanted to post for all to see that you are so lucky to have had
such a great Todd experience!! Of course, leave it to the "Dan-
Fans" to be more inclined to understand/appriciate the genius
that IS Todd. Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame, ARE YOU LISTENING???
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Still Raining In The Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 05:36:36
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!
First-of-all, I am an Oklahoma native "transplanted" to TexAss, thus the steers and queers joke from the movie doesn't apply (or was the recruit from Oklahoma??)
As I read your most interesting posts, I must share a tidbit of information about when I used to "DJ" at an Oklahoma FM radio station. I interviewed Todd Rundgren on-the-air, he played a few improvisational songs, and presented the radio station with a Gold Record Plaque of a 45 rpm "Hello, It's Me" which is still either hanging above the station's console or in someone's home today.
Thankyou, Oleander----yeppers, some people have asked me that question before, regarding my initials.
I suppose if we (you) liked any other musicians 'more' than Walter Becker or Donald Fagen, we wouldn't be looking at this most excellent St. Al's Guestbook page, taking your time to post messages, etc., now would we (you)???
Saludos!!!!
Michael
; )
Name: Clas
@ work, and...
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 04:13:21
Comments:
Ruby - I think we are on something here. Inspiration can come from pain, yes, but I don't think something good comes out if you write while you're in the middle of a crisis (a primal scream maybe). Come out on the other side and remember... that's when you can sing like Hornsby on song 11 on the latest "Spirit Trail", or make a song like "Down At The Bottom".
Digital Fly - THAT was funny!
Geena - thanx for the email, I got it now. And I did NOT ask you to save my ass.
howdy
Name: To Mr.Midnight Cruiser
@stranglehold
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 at 00:01:38
Comments:
Jeff left...he did not die. You can hear him whenever you
want to. Nobody, compares.
Name: oleander
only women in cages
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 23:08:23
Comments:
Razor, Ruby, & Geena--Forget Kinky, I've always wanted to put out, I mean produce, so I'm your man! But I'd rather dress maybe like Ben Stiller in the recent Rolling Stone. How about a series making the recipes in St. Al's Steely Dan Cookbook?
Ali--Your book titles have this LOL LOL.
Roy--you too, as usual. Hang tough on the defense thing. It's OK to cover your squeeze's back. Two WEEKS?? They could, but they'd ask for ten YEARS!!
JDF--A vote for Only A Fool and The Fez.
Ruby--Did some maaad dancing last weekend and thought of you. Is the producer allowed to dance?
Mandy--"You can feel with her heart as well as your hands." I like that.
Stranger--Chivas me timbers! How could I forget something to wash those graham crackers down? BTW, love your analogies.
I love anal--F:B?? GB:SD.com?? That's really stretching it. Apples & oranges. And are you trying to dis either Mr. F or Mr. B? Them's fightin' words.
Edd--Wow! I was listening to "Souvonica" by 8 1/2 Souvenirs the other week. I like their spare arrangements and the French lyrics. I'd much rather talk about them than some of these other recent musician-threads.
MCP--Does that also stand for male chauvinist pig? Not really. That's actually kind of funny. Now I picture Mr. F & Mr. B behind those windows, buffed & oiled a la Sting in "Dune." Thanx for the image!
Didge--You are baad! I am twitchin'!
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 21:44:25
Comments:
Royal Scam - I used to be a cynic when it came to music - everything was crap unless it was my personal preference - Now, with a ten and a fourteen year old, each with musical tastes at each end of the spectrum, and my wife who prefers Harry Chapin, James Taylor and Whitney Houston, I have become tolerant of the human animal and each one's musical bent. We shouldn't apologize, even jokingly, of our individual tastes. Barry Manilow, Barry White, Barry Maguire, whoever. If they move you, someone you love, or who loves you, or a stranger. Vive la difference.
Ruby - a dull life? Not possible, especially if you and I were cooking up a stir fry, and you paused to mouth the words from Heart's "Crazy on You" as we began to prepare the rice.
I should stay away from early morning postings.
Razor
Name: Digital Fly
off the wall
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 20:59:48
Comments:
RM: The transcript from last weeks studio mission was delayed as Chino forgot to charge the lithium battery:
Becker: Don, c'mon we've got to finish this thing. I've got golf touranment set up with left-handed guitar players for the end of November.
Fagen: Yeah, yeah...Hey, Roger come over here. I swear this snare is .003 sec. too soon a minute into track two...and these handclaps - what are we going to do? [hand rubs on forehead]
Butler: Your toast and marmalade, sirs.
Becker: Thanks...put them aside, we'll get to them in a minute.
The Guestbookers are turning to Manilow and HornsbyFagen: Who gives a fuck? [rubbing forehead with both hands]
Becker: OK Don, I've called Beasley, Parks, Erskine, Sample, and even Carlton. we'll pretend its a Windham Hill session: 2nd Arrangement in one or two takes, whadda ya say? We can add it as a bonus track if you want.
Fagen: But Larry...
Becker: No problem. Roger's developed on a cyber-bionic device which can be attached to Carlton's forearm. He's got the Fourier transforms for the stimulus patterns worked out. See?...LOOK, you can control his pick rate at the keyboard!
Fagen: [head raised]
Butler: Sirs, your session guitarist is here.
Becker: Thanks George...Her Don take thes two pills with some decaf.
Fagen: Can I sample his best runs?... and repeat them during the fadeout
Becker: Sure, buddy.
Butler: Sirs, your whores are here.
Becker: Don, look...two redheads if we can wrap it up today!
Fagen: UUUUUhhh... Walter we're married.
Becker: Oh yeah, right. Sorry. George, send them back.
Butler: As you wish sirs.
Fagen: [starts to chuckle]
Becker: That Prozac kicking in? Great...Let's do it.
end of trnascript.
Release date: 2/22/99
Name: Luckless Pedestrian 2
nicole.pouliot@gte.net
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 20:44:38
Comments:
Dear Midnight Cruiser--
I am the devoted TODD fan that brought him into the mix here.
I agree that "Something/Anything" is a good place to start!!
Also, the double "Todd" album is excellent for the beginner too.
What do you think of "Accapella", "No World Order" (Todd raps!!)
And last year's Bossa-Nova "With A Twist"?? Aint he the greatest?
Name: Luckless Pedestrian 2
I have one, yes
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 20:38:28
Comments:
Geena-- Every Todd Rundgren album is so different, perhaps your
Todd-friend could help guide you to albums that are closer to your musical tastes. Her living room is a Todd temple, 'eh??
You should have her e-mail me so we can compare notes!! I am a
Fiend for Todd!JosieDanFan-- Where was it that you saw that halloween movie w/ Tim Curry in it? I saw Barry M. on the Rosie O'Donell show. He
sounded pretty good, considering the broncitis and all.Ms. Crabtree-- Aptly named!! Okay, I'll take the crap over B.M.
, Tim Curry and EVEN Steve Perry, but DON'T GO DISSIN' MY TODD!!!
Oops!! Ms Crabtree, I do believe YOUR IGNORACE IS SHOWING!! (and
in front of the whole class, too!!).
Name: Midnite Cruiser
home@last
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 20:35:56
Comments:
Geena....I too am a lover of Todd's music. I like it all but if I had to recommend one in particular it would be the "Something/Anything" double cd from the 70's. The guy recorded all the instruments and most of the vocal tracks on it and it gets better all the way through. He inspired a generation of musicians to try to do the same but I've never heard anyone do it with as much feeling as Todd.
Name: Geena
*******
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 20:05:29
Comments:
Luckless: Now you have me curious about Todd. A friend of mine puts him on an altar and I swear she has a shrine in her living room to him. I never really got into his music, mainly because of that annoying song "I don't wanna work". I think that's the name of it, and also radio stations around here play it repeatedly. Give me a few albums to buy and I'll check it out.
Ali McGraw-Hill: How about:
Steely Dan: How to make your fans grovel for more music
Steely Dan: We're not Steely Dan, but we play them on TV
Steely Dan: It's a Glamour Profession
Steely Dan: The new album? you must be jokin' son
Steely Dan: Guestbookers, we know your filthy mindsRose Darling: "be you not the forest child and not know the gump?" yes, his best asset is his voice. I wish he'd do more music though, but I'll take him in any movie.
RubyBaby: tight leather pants? lacy unmentionables? air guitars? cooking show? I'm sold! If Yan can cook, so can we! I'll ask Kinky if he'd like to produce it.
Kinky: would you? could you? Think of the rolling credits at the end of the show.
Clas: what you did was "open mouth and insert foot". It's not up to me to save your ass, your guestbook peers will do the judging. BTW...I tried sending that email again for the 4th time and it hasn't come back to me yet...did you get it?
Eviva: The company I work for has royally screwed themselves and have a 20 million dollar deficit. I work in advertising and the product I work on has no budget for next year, so unless they place me somewhere else, which I doubt will happen, I may be out of a job by next week. I just hope they give me a good severance package, it will be nice to stay home for a few weeks.
I love analogies: love your analogies, especially the last one!
Name: JosieDanFan
it's the Barrys'!
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 19:13:08
Comments:
Hello fellow Dan Fans,
Did anyone see Barry Manilow on Rosie O'Donnell today? He sounded like crap, but I'm sure the broncitis/larangitis (Kinky did I spell that right?) didn't help. Anyhoo...I'm not fan of Barry Manilow, but I have to give the guy credit for sticking with it so long..him and John Tesh have my respect.
Give me some Barry White!! Now there is some makin love music there! That deep sultry voice..yummy! LOL
Rose/Luckless: I liked the dandruff stuff too! I have yet to see Tim in Muppets Treasure Island. Have any of you seen a halloween show he was in called "The Worst Witch"? It was super cheesy but he does a number in there that is so great! You should check it out just for that.
JDF
Name: Miss Crabtree
Lincoln High School
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 18:46:02
Comments:
Luckless, Anybody that likes Steve "oh Cherry" Perry and Tim "limp wrist" Curry, has NO right coming to this forum!Todd Rules? Tell it to your high school friends. Leave now, their is a little to much good taste in music here for you to handle.
Don't skip study hall,
Miss Crabtree
Name: Oh Please
RE: Time Warp
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 18:32:13
Comments:
Rose Darlink-- Let's not and say we did.
Name: LUCKLESS P -2
see below
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 18:31:59
Comments:
I must admit after reading other postings, that I too am a Barry Manilow fan! Is it so hard to beleive that it is possible to
enjoy such vastly different musical styles? Like, who wants to
eat the same food everyday, no matter HOW good it is? I also
absolutely LOVE Journey, but I just can't imagine one w/out
Steve Perry--he IS Journey, if you know what I mean. Glad to
know there are Tim Curry fans out there. He's a pretty mean
singer, if any of you have any of his 3 records--a real Rock 'n
Roller!! But the top o' the list: TODD RUNDGREN-- even Becker &
Fagen kneel at HIS altar!! Long live TODD!!!!! ;^)
Name: Carly Simon-Schuster
Re: New Book Titles
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 18:24:35
Comments:
"Steely Dan: Turn up the Eagles, The Hall of Fame Ain't Listening"
Name: Ungrateful Bastard
Sweet Home Chicago
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 18:13:40
Comments:
Hi Room:
Male, 36 seeking female, 7'2", green hair, one blue and one brown eye, pierced ass, into steely dan, climbing trees naked and nude wrestling in motor oil. No Freaks Please.
Oops, wrong room...............
While I am here, Dusty Springfield over the Dan?????? What the $%^& is in the water out Cleveland way?
Name: Ali McGraw-Hill
inawinnebago
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 18:12:59
Comments:
Let's Name The New Book:
"Becker And Fagen Come Clean"
"Steely Dan: NOT BY Brian Sweet"
"Steely Dan: Reelin In The Tears""Steely Dan: We Did Interviews, You Just Didn't Read Them"
"Steely Dan: How St. Al Made Them Famous"
"Steely Dan: Everything But The Truth"
"Steely Dan: We're Not Bad Guys, Really"
"Steely Dan: That's A Dildo To You"
"Steely Dan: Everything's Coming Up Oleanders"
"Steely Dan: Otherwise Known As The Larry
Carlton Group Featuring Chuck Rainey""Steely Dan: From High To HI"
"Steely Dan: We're Not A Band, We Just Sound
Like One""Steely Dan: The Libby Titus Story"
"Steely Dan: The Pre-Guest Book Years"
"Steely Dan: The Art Of Releasing Albums In A
Timely Fashion""Steely Dan: A Hall Of Fame Band!"
Name: Luckless Pedestrian
nicole.pouliot@gte.net
Location: san diego, ca usa
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 18:10:17
Comments:
GAWD, how I love "The Dan"!! My greatest dream would be to have
them collaborate on something with my all-time total #1 fav, TODD
RUNDGREN. There's no one else out there like 'em!!
Name: rumour monger
@HK management
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 15:35:49
Comments:
A few years ago I was trying to track down Donald Fagen for legal reasons...and while talking to his agents secretary she indicated that Fagen and Becker were writing their own book.......
maybe that's what they're working on now...because I think the album is finished...........
Name: Rocky Roxbury
in smogland
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 15:14:46
Comments:
Reelin In The Years is NOT a reliable account of The Steely Dan Story. We will just have to wait till Don and Walt want to give it up, to get it right.I always heard Jeff Porcaro's death was a combination of hard cocaine use and playing around with that garden spray. The coke already had fucked up his heart and inhaling the spray (unintentionally) put the nail in the coffin (literally).
Name: Rose Darling
@let's do the time warp again
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 15:13:00
Comments:
Geena: Yeah, Tim was the devil dude Darkness in Legend.
IMHO Tim's best asset is his voice. The reason I think most of his film roles have been mediocre is because, other than the ones you mentioned, most of the time he tries to play a nice schleppy apologetic kind of guy (against his typecast), which doesn't suit him at all. He's much better when he sticks to villains. P.S. His role in Annie wasn't too bad either.Luckless:
Hey, I LIKED that "dandruff" ya know, so sue me !!! Male or not, you can still join the CCCCCC (minus the crush.)
Yeah man, thanks for reminding me, I never did get around to that Muppet movie !!! If you liked him in that, you might enjoy him as Cardinal Richlieu (sp?) in 3 Musketeers, a hoot of a film.Eviva:
Where you been, VWF? Welcome back, and thanks for the warning about Pat Metheny, `cause I'm not big into instrumental jazz, although for some reason I liked a John Coltrane album I listened to when I was in my teens and I used to like Spyrogyra. That's about as far as it went though. How did you get into Metheny's music? (I'm still waiting for an answer to that one from all the Metheny fans here.)Stranger:
Now that is the apt description for me "Hornsby = predictable."
Jangling Hornsby keyboards and that monotonous singing voice are enough to make me switch the station every time.
Name: Mandy
ugh.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 14:53:27
Comments:
Roy Scam: Must you piss me off again with your slam on my man Barry? "Could it be magic" is not a romance novel set to music. You know, more men could really make it with women if they tried to be more sensitive and let their emotions show. As they said in the movie, "Living out loud", having a gay boyfriend is the best of both worlds! It's having a boyfriend who is also like your best girlfriend. The only draw back is that he also likes to suck dick!
Don't worry, your manhood is intact. But you can also feel with her heart as well as your hands!
Mandy
Name: Schwappah
blinders on
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 14:41:45
Comments:
As a student @ the Univ. of S. Florida, I worked part time in a arena setting up stages. One day while walking thru a normal size hallway, a security guard approached me. He said "you'll have to face the wall while this person walks thru". I kinda looked at him like he was crazy, but he was serious. He made me look at a brick wall, while this mystery person passed on by.
Not thinking much about it, a little later someone was talking about the same thing happening. Well, this magical mystery person was none other than Mr. Barry Manilow himself.
Was that a crock of shit? If you think you'll meet Barry one day, think again.
Name: Edd
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 13:01:16
Comments:
I am listening to "Happy Feet" by 8 1/2 Souvenirs.
You all should also.
Name: DrMu
Barry is so White
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 12:02:16
Comments:
Roy/Schwinn et al.: I think it's telling that one of the best sounding Manilow songs was written by a Beach Boy OTHER than Brian Wilson in his prime. His music was clean sounding, pretty well recorded (as far as my memory of the transistor radio broadcast daze will let me) with a good number of hooks, schmalttzy 70's wedding reception kinda stuff...sort of like expanded little catchy ad jingles (that's where he began).
I missed the Squirrel Nut Zippers on VH-1 on Sunday, but caught the replay last night about 11:45 (I figured they'd be last). They looked and sounded pretty wasted, but fun. I do like there quirky arrangements, but their vocals sound better on the studio versions, from what little I've sampled.
Name: Roy.Scam
even.now.black.cow
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 11:44:01
Comments:
Mandy: Would someone please explain again how I got in the position of defending Barry (Bury?) Manilow in order to preserve my love life? O.K. Sorry Schwinn, "Could This Be Magic" is a nice Chopin melody onto which Barry glued some Harlequin Romance lyrics; "Deacon Blues" it ain't. -- "One Voice" , however is a very good song, I suppose. My then, and now, squeeze and I saw him perform it accompanied by the Hampton University Choir, years ago when it was still the Hampton Institute Choir. The number was big, loud, and hyperbolic, but sounded great.
Ruby: It was probably the "Hoover Sucks" song to which I was dancing.
On the subject of Fagen and Becker as instrumentalists: They might get beaten in a jam/cut session by many other musicians; but give either one of them a musical theme, a studio, and two weeks to work with and they'll kick almost anyone's ass.
RS
Name: Midnite Cruiser
crouching on the lawn
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 11:24:10
Comments:
Zeke....I'd rather see Greg Allman than Journey any day.
a little help please....in the book RITY, Sweet gives the same "official" line saying that Jeff Porcaro died from accidental poisoning from insecticide while doing yard work but I remember his widow going on television a few days after he died saying that it was indeed cocaine related arterioclirosis (sp?), aka hardening of the arteries. I remember reading an interview with bandmate Steve Lukather in one of the guitar mags downplaying the coke angle but I never really heard "the rest of the story". Can any of you Paul Harvey types out there fill me in?
Name: TheStranger
i need like a sunday in tj
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 10:46:42
Comments:
clas,
i will agree that with fagen & becker doing everything a zillion times over, they're probably not having terrific fun in that studio. but much of what emerges from all that agony and precision is brilliant. what amazed me when i finally got to see the Dan live was that they and the rest of the band did seem to be genuinely enjoying themselves up there. there's probably only about a 2 percent difference in precision between the studio and live, but becker and fagen hear that 2% more than the rest of us.what i've heard hornsby do is always predictable. he hasn't had the subtlety of a master composer and lyricist. i'll agree he may have got better and will try to hear that new cd of his. but the Dan's the man.
Name: Luckless Pedestrian
left.on.the.rio.grand
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 09:54:57
Comments:
In these days of gender equality, its OK for guys to like Tim Curry, too. (It is, however, still NOT OK to like B.Manilow!) I liked Curry in "Legend", but the film overall did not overly impress me. But my favorite review of the film referred the endlessly falling dandelion fluff as "dandruff of the gods."
If you haven't seen it, check out "Muppet Treasure Island" in which Curry plays Long John Silver. He's classic! And there are some really funny songs on there, too.
Name: RubyBaby
fag@n junkie
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 09:34:21
Comments:
Clas: I've been closely listening to your take on Hornsby. I can't resist it any longer. I will pick up the new one today. I've never heard his stuff, but I can imagine some of his influence in your own work. Your last cd has soul with a twist of frolic.
And I'm really happy you kicked the habit! Do you use the patch? Nicorette gum? Cold Turkey? And where will you get your inspiration, now that some sternum pains are gone?Geena: We both get guitars, tight leather pants & lacy unmentionables. We can do a cooking show. But who can we get to produce it?
Eviva: I always thought my life was boring. But thanks for the notice! I guess it's how you look at it.
I love: Analogies! Never having heard Hornsby yet, I'm a bit challanged in understanding all of those. But the theme is clear and that last one (codeine/heroin) is a masterpiece. Yes, I must get to the music store...
rb
Name: the grappler
@here, figure this one out
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 01:34:39
Comments:
Fagen's better...that's just the way it is.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 at 01:04:58
Comments:
The Stranger - sorry, but you missunderstood me. What I meant is that their music is two different ways of approaching an artform. For example - Hornsby IS the man he sings about, Fagen DESCRIBES him.
Hornsby seem to have fun in the studio, it's swinging and it's alive, Fagen has an idea he wants to concrete (?). So it gets a little too clean and stiff sometimes.
Hornsbys musicians are playin their asses off, Fagens musicians are playing with one eye looking at Fagen (is this okay Donald?).
And I love Steely Dan more than Hornsby, probably because the humor they have which shows in their music.
Geena - is my ass saved hon?
Zeke - I spoke to Slidell, can't believe you guys have 15 - 20 Celsius. Yes, and if not anything happens I'm going down to the jazzfestival.
I'll be living in Slidell. I asked if Iwe could skip the kneeboarding this time.
Name: EvivaLaughs
hey.mambo.did.your.mama.teach.you.that
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 21:11:57
Comments:
Clas: Thanks again! Metheny RULES!
Geena: Wow! What's this about your job? :(
Ruby: You write such cool mini-stories...unless I miss my guess, you had a VERY interesting adolescence--true, or am I way off base?
Sociable Hermit: You write such cool maxi-stories. Don't let the rodents get you down.
JosieDanFan: Well, looks like you're all set with lots of suggestions for the "Date Tape"! But I agree with Ruby--don't worry TOO much about what's on the tape, baby! :)
Rose: :D
Thanks!--yep, I'll email you. EWF does rule; however, haven't seen their newest album yet. If you like instrumental jazz at all you will LOVE Metheny! As someone else said, his new album 'Imaginary Day' is a great one to start with.
He writes vocal parts for many of his instrumental songs in which, as another poster said, the voices are used as instruments "played" like any other instrument and give the song (depending on the song) either a sad, haunting quality, or a joyous free-flowing overlay to the musical theme. Edd and maybe others find this annoying, if you would then you might not like his stuff but I think this "vocal effect" is the COOLEST!
BTW, I was only half-kidding about the nameless-poster-issue: you're just sweetah than me, is all! :) And don't you DARE even semi-apologize for having convictions and speaking on them, baby!
Otherwise we will all (none of us here is shy about our opinions, no?) have to pack up and go home--"all righty then"!!
fezo: Oh, MAN! Now you've got me digging around in the memory banks trying to reconstruct the lyrics to "Copacabana"! What have you done?!Schwinn, others: Can't figure out if you're pulling our legs or not...! hee hee But...Barry's so 'musically incorrect," yet his albums sell in the multimillions time after time. Dunno about the overplayed radio stuff, but his album 'Swing Street'
is a bouncy funk of a sweet ride and one AMAZING album. If that makes me a LOL (thanks oleander) TOO bad! :)
One reviewer said of him, if I remember right, that his talent was not that his songs were themselves genius material, but that he had an unusually good ability to move people's emotions through music. This seems true to me. Anyway, even if you are pulling our legs, I just thought of that when you said you left his concert feeling 'on top of the world'...
Name: One
More
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 21:00:05
Comments:
Hornsby:Fagen::Junkie Girl::Pearl of the Quarter
Name: I love
analogies!
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 20:56:56
Comments:
Hornsby:Fagen::Gingrich:Nixon
Hornsby:Fagen::QVC:CNN
Hornsby:Fagen::Monica:Hillary
Hornsby:Fagen::Fagen:Becker
Hornsby:Fagen::Marlboro:A.Fuente
Hornsby:Fagen::This Guestbook:Steelydan.com
Hornsby:Fagen::Codeine:Heroin
Name: Geena
being effectively high
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 19:14:11
Comments:
I have a lot of catching up to do here. I've been away for a few days at a seminar called the "7 Habits of Highly Effective People", so I guess I'm highly effective now. Next week I find out just how effective I am when "weasel boy" (a name I affectionately coined for the VP of the company) lets me know if I still have a job.
Rose Darling: I also forgot that Tim Curry was in Legend, he played the devil-monster didn't he? He was also in the Steven King movie "It" where he played Pennywise the evil clown, and don't forget on Roseanne he played the Real Estate shyster (sp?). I do agree his movie roles as being so-so, but he's been typecast as a villian, and he plays those parts so well. There just something so wicked about his eyes!
Josie DF: I won't be your slave puppy, but here's my list songs for you:Doctor Wu, Kid Charlemagne, King of the World, Caves of Altamira, Pretzel Logic, Night by Night, Any World, Don't Take Me Alive, Sign in Stranger, The Royal Scam, Black Cow, Aja, Deacon Blues, Glamour Profession, Time out of Mind, Razor Boy, The Boston Rag, Babylon Sisters and Gaucho, and if you have some room left on the tape, throw in IGY from the Nightfly, Junkie Girl from 11TOW, Tomorrow's Girls, Florida Room and Teahouse from Kamakiriad.
Clas: excuse me? You're comparing Hornsby to Fagen? Do you have a death wish? Don't even go there babe!!!
Schwinn: I also have to admit, I did like Barely Manenough….I mean Barry Manilow for a very very short time while I was in high school. My sister gave me one of his tapes for my birthday (what was she thinking?) Anyway, I gave it a listen and put it away, and that's my story.
Ruby: I love Heart too. I just couldn't help envisioning us in the kitchen making that super delicious "better than sex" chocolate cake and being Ann and Nancy Wilson. Who wants to play air guitar?
Dangerous dem: I would love to have been the one to slam the door on Newt's ass!
Socio Hermy: Since I may be out of work soon, and have lots of spare time on my hands, I will also join you in the attack. I'll bring more firewood, as well as an AK47 that I am borrowing from the kid next door. Look for me, I'll rustle some leaves as I approach your cave. I'll be dressed full camoflauge combat gear which I just recently purchased from the new fashion line at Sammy's Army Surplus. Shall I bring you some fatigues and a new pair of boots?Off to take a highly effective nap…
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 18:57:41
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!
Listening to Fagen's "Tomorrow's Girls" lyrics such as, " . . .not my Sally, not my Susie, not my Jackie, etc., . . ." got a strange thought about the CDzow post about "if you like Steely Dan, you might like . . ." For example, when I was manager of a nightclub in the Philippines in 1975-76, you could "choose" your lady from two-way glass----(how truly outrageous, but fun)!! Not to be sexist or anything like that, DanFanLadies, but wouldn't it be interesting to have the web choice capability to "pick and choose" your women from the Guestbook. Meaning, if you like "Josie", you might like "Ruby" and "Oleander". Or, if you liked them, you might love "Peg", et. al!! If you like Josie, Ruby, Oleander, Peg and the rest, you just might really love "Louise", the "Pearl-Of-The-Quarter".
Yes, DanFanLadies, YOU ARE THE BEST----THE GREATEST, EVERY DAY---TODAY AND "Tomorrow"!!
Strange thoughts from a Rainy TexAss night, gang---
Saludos,Michael
; )
Name: Mock Turtle
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 18:52:40
Comments:
Yes, Hornsby may be the better player, there's no argument here; but Fagen knows his limitations and obtains session musicians accordingly (notice how relatively few times his name pops up in the musician credits [and Becker even more so {!}]).
Name: filibuster
.com
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 18:47:27
Comments:
Title:
Guided with a steady hand : the cultural landscape of a rural Texas park / Dan K. Utley and
James W. Steely. -- Waco, Tex. : Baylor University Press, c1998.
(AKM1848 )
Format:
xxiv, 192 p. ; ill. ; 24 cm.
Notes:
Includes bibliographical references and index.
ISBN: 0918954681
Subject:
Neff, Pat Morris, 1871-1952.
Civilian Conservation Corps (U.S.) -- Texas -- Coryell County.
Mother Neff State Park (Tex.) -- History.
Coryell County (Tex.) -- History, Local.
Holdings:
Location: Blgtn BUSINESS/SPEA LIBRARY
Call No: F392.C8 U75 1998Location: Blgtn RESEARCH COLLECTIONS
Call No: F392.C8 U75 1998
Status: Not checked out
Name: JosieDanFan
Love puppy eh?
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 17:45:08
Comments:
Hello fellow Dan fans!
Thanks Luckless: Your advice will be taken into consideration. *wink, wink
:o)Rose: Thanks Also. I will definately look into those albums. I liked legend to, just from the artistic stand point. Absolutely beatiful.
JDF
Name: Rose Darling
@smiles await you when you rise
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 15:22:49
Comments:
JDF:
You got me there, I forgot about Legend. Excellent flick. The movie sets and the ambiance in Legend are the most magical and mythical that I've ever seen in a film.
For Tim Curry music, check out "Greatest Hits" or "Fearless."
Tim is great at doing interpretive covers. One of the most interesting songs I've heard by Tim is on the boxed set for Rocky Horror, where Tim does a slow, jazzy version of the Supremes hit, "Baby Love." I never could stand that song until his version.Zsa Zsa:
By jove, I think you've got it ! You might be a Danhead if... you have East St. Louis Toodle-oo played as your funeral procession march accompaniment. (Up til now, I was considering "Golden Slumbers" by the Beatles, remember the Sgt. Pepper movie?) Toodle-oo DOES sound like a N'awlins funeral ditty. Gee, is this a bad omen for the next Danfest?
I'm thinking, opening scene of "Live and Let Die." Hmmmm.Steve V.
Hey, I liked those boyhood photos ! What I wanna know is why there weren't baby photos ! Tee hee hee. Now that you mention it, Becker did get shortchanged, didn't he?Roy: It's all in good pun... I mean, fun.
Name: Joe M
@not_at_all_bored
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 13:56:57
Comments:
Yup,
Hornsby's "Spirit Trail" is just plain fucking outstanding - IMHO of course...
Name: Steve V Critic
@the library of 'Dan
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 13:26:57
Comments:
Rose D.and Larry:
Thoughts of 'Reeling In The Years' book-
I think Sweet did a great job researching this book but a not so great job "writing" it....the narrative is choppy and doesn't always seem to be chronological...for instance on page 40 he states that Denny Dias was the first guy hired by Fagen and Becker to be in Steely Dan ,but then 5 pages later he states that "Dias had yet to arrive in California when 'Dallas'was recorded"...also Sweet definitely seems to favor Fagen over Becker....while Donald gets a detailed biographical account Becker gets but a few paragraphs.....
and I think it was pretty cheap of Sweet to track down Fagen's mother as a source (how many Steely Dan albums was she on??)and by putting in personal stuff (like boyhood photos(!) and pictures of Fagen's niece playing piano) Sweet assured himself of never getting an interview with Fagen ......
but I don't want to put all the blame on Sweet....I'm sure the publisher said "here's your book deal- now give us a book!"....much like when Fagen and Becker signed with ABC Records!
Name: TheStranger
one other thing....
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 12:53:17
Comments:
fagen is to hornsby as freud's 'interpretation of dreams' is to 'i'm ok, you're ok.'
Name: hold up
now
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 12:20:55
Comments:
re: Fagen & Hornsby
Donald is the better writer/arranger. Hornsby may be the better player. The Dan's genius doesn't necessarily lie in execution of instrument, rather in the crafting of songs.
Flame away if you must.
Name: TheStranger
don't make me laugh
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 10:31:09
Comments:
clas,
ok, you want to compare hornsby to fagen? fagen is dostoevski, hornsby is michael crichton. hornsby is arthur murray, fagen is astaire. hornsby is basic sitcom, fagen is george carlin. and so on.
Name: Zeke
A funny thing happened on the way to the Saenger?
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 09:23:39
Comments:
Rose: Well, it's a long story, so I'll skip the boring details.
I left work early to catch the Journey show at the Saenger. I was having dinner at The House Of Blues, not a bad place to eat I might add, when I heard this music coming from the stage area. It sounded familiar. I asked my waiter who would be playing that night, she said"Gregg Allman and friends". So I ate and drank, and drank, and drank, you know. When it was time to leave, I decided to see Gregg Allman and friends instead. He put on an incredible show. Man is he showing his age, he looks 70 something. But, he wailed. Didn't hear anything about Journey. Sorry. The Journey line-up included Ross Valory, Neal Schon, Steve Augeri, John Cain, and Deed Castronovo. Don't know who did vocals, in IMHO, who cares. I think I made the right impaired descision.
Name: Dr. Kildare
@kingscounty.com
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 09:09:05
Comments:
Schwinn- That's the reason for the influx of babys being born homosexual!
Name: Luckless Pedestrian
somebody.else's.favorite.song
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 08:44:17
Comments:
JDF: Okay, here's what you need on the tape:
FM - (If you've got it) This makes a nice kick-off to the
tape. Otherwise, the order isn't important.
Bodhisattva
Your Gold Teeth II
Kid Charlemagne
Don't Take Me Alive
Rikki
Black Cow
Aja
Reelin' In The Years
My Old School
Third World Man - End with this or My Old School, depending
upon the ambience you think appropriate.If there's space left on the tape (or if you go to a 2nd tape) choose from:
Do It Again
Bad Sneakers
Haitian Divorce
Deacon Blues
Caves of Altamira
King of the World
Tomorrow's Girls
New FrontierThe primary choices reflect more of the guitar- and rock-oriented items from the canon because in your original post, I think you mentioned something that led me to believe that's what this guy likes already.
But tape these selections as I recommend and the guy will be your slave puppy forever. And if he won't, then I will.
Name: Mandy
One Voice
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 06:39:56
Comments:
Schwinn: Thanks for having the balls to admit that you have listened to Manilow and liked his work!
RoyScam: I will be happy to meet you later but you have to agree to only listen to my old collection of Manilow and swoon and sigh in awe of his talants at the appropriate times and I will make it worth your while!
Mandy
Name: Clas
@ work
Location: Ok, I pay hundred bucks, gor a cig
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 01:51:43
Comments:
The Stranger - you got to be kidding. Or else you really ran into that bad luck (deep south).
Roy - you did understand that, amazing.
I don't wanne bore you guys, such thing has never entered my mind, but I must push for Bruce Hornsby's SPIRIT TRAIL. It's so fresh, it's so new, it's so alive, he sings so fucking good, the piano is outstanding, the sound is so great. It's seventeen songs, the last song is named "Swan Song".
If you compare Hornsby with Fagen it would be like comparing a impressionistic painting with a black and white photo.
Name: Schwinn
fairdemidler
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 01:00:55
Comments:
"Could This be Magic" by Barry Manilow is a masterpiece. Period.
I saw Barry in 1981 and didn't bother to invite a date because I know what I like and don't lean on anyone for reassurance. What I saw was an entertainer of the highest order who remains a superstar whether I like it or not.
I like it.
I won't bore you with the details, but I left the show feeling really good about the world. I think Roy Scam knows what I'm talking about, but then again, Bette Midler's ex-keyboardist doesn't need me or anyone else to convince anybody of anything. It's hard to refute 30 million records.
"Any World" by Steely Dan may cause you to pause and question your place in the scheme of things, but innumerable maternity wards still play Manilow when new members of THIS world are taking their first breath.
No Static at All
Name: Steve Gadd
playing.my.ass.off.for.what?
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 22:43:11
Comments:
Stranger:
That was me, you asshole! What do you mean you have to look at the liner notes!? I made that song famous! That's MY signature solo! Everybody knows that! You think Porcaro could play that song? No fuckin' way! That's ME there! That's ME!!! I'm so upset about all this right now, I'm going to tell you something that I swore I would never tell. Something I (we all) promised to take to the grave---I co-wrote that song with Larry Carlton and Chuck Rainey! (Larry damn near DID take it to the grave. But ever since his "brush with death," he's been taking ALL the credit. HAHA, screw you too, Larry!Stevie G
Name: zzf
hungarianrhapsody
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 21:54:24
Comments:
add an n
Name: Zsa Zsa Factor
dontbelieveimtakenin
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 21:49:41
Comments:
Rose Dah ling
Yeah, heh hehm pretty much. funny how something as inocuos as a *band* from my 70's can resurface in such a profound manner. hmmmm, did'ja ever think that Barrytown is bury town? The daily news....obitutaries...... look at what you wear..the way you do your hair. The "word" see you on the street.....ghosts....
I can see by what you carry.... and then....toodle-oo....sounds to me like music they play for a funeral procession in no'leens ... not that i've ever been to new orleans.....but my friend, tony, went to aaron's uncle's funeral there... and damn it if it just don't work....ya know???? maybe this has all been covered another time.....Roy
yikes. how bout Tammy W. and Sinead????.....enter loud scream .....AAACKOleander.
Hazel and Alice will be in my rotation, methinks, till I'm barry'dnice shoes, dah ling
so long
ancient chinese secret handshake. zzzzzzzzzzz
Name: TheStranger
santa ana winds coming
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 21:14:39
Comments:
just in case you haven't done this already, focus closely on the drum on the title track 'aja.' i'm too lazy right now to look up the drummer's name, but he's appreciated.
who sent over that truckload of s'mores? thanks but enough already. got any chivas regal where that came from?
r&r hall of fame is bullshit, but if the Dan were to finally be recognized it would in fact revive attention somewhat & create new fans & who knows, maybe even spur the dynamic duo into putting out new material.
Name: JosieDanFan
I got a porcupine in my froat:o(
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 19:44:35
Comments:
Hello fellow Dan fans..
Thanks for the advice thus far. It made me feel better in spite of my current weakened condition.
Rose Darling: I agree, but I still taped "Legend" so I could see him in all of his devilish glory. What album do you suggest to me for expanding my Tim experience?RR: Um..kinky's great and all, but I have my standards.
RubyBaby: Thanks for the advice but we are just good friends, trust me on this! *wink
Thanks again all..
JDF
Name: Roy.Scam
from.the.wombat.wing.of.san.quentin
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 19:28:49
Comments:
This Week In History--1998: Rock group Steely Dan is again rejected by the R&R Hall of Fame; upon hearing the news, Speaker Newt Gingrich resigns his congressional seat in disgust.
Emily: Nationwide telvised reports of the meteorilogical situation in Fargo, ND, would indicate that tonight would not be a good night to sleep on the beach naked.
Clas: I didn't get the Berklee info yet, but thanks in advance.
Mandy: You talk a lot like that lady that tricked me into going to that Manilow concert in the 70's. Do you happen to have a fondness for some other corny guys like Eric Carmen, Bryan Adams, Michael Bolton, Lionel Richie, and me? Meet me in our room tonight and we'll straighten out this Steely/Barry/Danilow thing.
Rose Darling: "Perryless Journey"; good pun. How about an ex-Sting-guished Police, an un-B.Cumming Guess Who or a Dan with its Becker removed.
Happy Veteran's Day,
RS
Name: rubybaby
since you @sked,
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 18:45:48
Comments:
JDF: You're idea sounds great! But I'm thinking that he's more interested in you, dear, than Steely Dan. It won't matter what you play. However, if he's your type, I'd make sure to play Dr. Wu. Just have fun sharing the best music on the planet!rb
Name: Rose Darling
@pondering a larcenous wombat infested world
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 17:46:13
Comments:
WhErE iS coUNtzErO ?!?
I'd say that torrid office romance not only swept him off his feet, but possibly out to sea...ruby: I DID notice you seemed a bit quiet lately (hence, absent.) Welcome back.
Larry:
I followed the Dan music closely in the 70's but didn't know anything about Don and Walt. I still have never even set eyes on a copy of Metal Leg. So, I guess for me, the RITY book was new news. Now I know I could read Metal Leg issues online if I had the time.
So what are these pressing questions about D & W that are left unanswered?Zsa Zsa:
How interesting that you chose to specifically mention the "other" members of the Police. It wasn't ALL Sting now, was it?
Did you only discover Steely Dan in the 90's?Roy S: Didn't know about the Boz/Slash thing.
Zeke: You GOTTA give us your review of a Perry-less i.e. Perilous Journey.
Josie: Welcome to the Clandestinely Conducted Covert Curry Crushes Club ! IMO, Tim's best movie since Rocky was the Three Musketeers remake. Most of his movie roles have been mediocre otherwise. Whaddya think? (Et tu, Geena?)
As for the compilation tape, use this equation:
Your personal favorites minus radio-overplayed songs equals appropriate representation from each album.Sociable and David/Florida Room:
I'm still getting booted back to the computer menu when trying to log into the chat room. I'm about to beat the crap out of the "electronic bouncer." Now what do we do?
Name: The Real Roxanne
@sparagustips
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 16:33:28
Comments:
JDF--
Pointers on how to get noticed. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
(1) Type in a url directing us to nude photographs.
(2) Insult someone. The cattier, the better.
(3) Offer a hummer (either the sex act OR the vehicle) to the Guest Book male of your choice. I'm partial to Kinky, myself.Oh. I think you should definitely include Night By Night and Any World That I'm Welcome To on your tape. IMHO...
Name: Lisa
Henfruit1@aol.com
Location: Cape Cod , Mass USA
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 16:09:16
Comments:
I've been a long-time fan of Steely Dan and think they're the balls. "My Old School" reminds me of my high school days. And as for that jerk "Mr. Packard" from Texas, who wrote in recently, I'd like to know if he even recognizes good music when he hears it. I think the bass player is awsome! Every time I listen to the albums I've heard a hundred times before, I hear something new that I haven't heard before. I am a true dedicated fan of Steely Dan. The music moves me in a way I can't explain. Thank you for this opportunity to be on the guest list, and keep rockin'!!!!!
Name: JosieDanFan
the invisible woman
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 15:45:24
Comments:
Hey guys and gals,
I know there are more important thing out there than my concerns, but did anyone read my post? I would greatly appreciate all or any of your input on this compilation tape I've been requested to make. Please let me know what you guys think!
Lester: Hi sweetie!!
JDF
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 15:36:57
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!
An open letter to the people voting which bands, people, wannabe musicians for the RRHOF-----"drink your big black cow, and get the Hell outta here-----damn, no wonder they are located in Cleveland (another armpit of the world) sorry, Cleveland DanFans, go and piss on the monuments around the building (I would)!!!!
Another pissed off Dan Fan (among several hundred thousand)!!!
Donald and Walter, who needs that fucking "honor", anyway, we love your music---you are in the "DanFan" Hall-of-Fame, as far as I am concerned, and the people HERE are much more musically in the know than those voting (ah, music politics!)
Signed,
A very pissed off, MichaelSaludos!!
Name: TheStranger
look at all the white men on the street
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 15:05:20
Comments:
clas,
well we ARE the richest country on earth, and if we run into hard luck, we're screwed.
Name: mWorld
khillman@lightspeed.net
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 12:23:53
Comments:
Rubybaby:I got in on United 5061 @ 10:30p yesterday...you? can't believe we almost crossed paths.
Name: rubybaby
still c@ching up
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 10:21:05
Comments:
YGK: I liked your piece about What makes SteelyDan so terrific. You nailed it. They really are a multi-level band.I think Kinky's contest idea is a win/win.
RoyS: On a girls' night out, I saw Barry M in the late 70's at Merriweather. Was that you dancing in the front to "I Am Stuck On Bandaids"?
fezo: Last year, a few of the kids found their parents' old Barry Manilow records. They rediscovered CopaCobanna. At first, they made fun of it by doing a parody in a talent show. But it caught on in a serious way with the teens. They choreographed a whole dance routine to it and it's at every party these days. They're having way more fun with it than we ever did!
rb
Name: Mandy
givetheguy@break.com.
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 09:57:08
Comments:
You know poor Barry sure does get alot of shit by you guys! Why does everyone always pick on him? He is still recording records, writing songs, and performing unlike some of the greats that you all worship. I admit that some of his stuff leaves something to be desired but when he started years ago, he could sing to someone,( at the time I thought it was a woman,but I'm not sure now) and you felt like he was touching your soul. I also loved how he could take a classic piece like Chopin and turn it into a love ballad. The man has talent even if you don't like his style of music today. I think it has become more fashionable to bash him rather than to respect his abilities as an artist. As someone who has never written a lick of music, I respect all musicians who have the ability to carry it off even if I don't like what they write.
I know you all will still pick on poor Barry but I bet he is still crying all the way to the bank!
Name: Luckless Pedestrian
in.the.backroom
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 08:29:21
Comments:
Oh, and I think the only actual contribution Toni Tenille made to "The Wall" was the speaking part of the girl who asks "Do you want to take a ba-a-ath?"
Name: Luckless Pedestrian
lost.wages
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 08:27:05
Comments:
To celebrate yet another fuck-up by the RRHOF, I put on "Show Biz Kids" but had to resist singing along aloud since I am, after all, at work.
Name: David in the Florida Room
dmoore113@aol.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 07:15:00
Comments:
Hermit-- No problemo....I thought that's what was happening.....
Just as well ,I've been a lazy slug lately and way behind on finishing my CD...too much reading posts and chatting and surfing....Hey maybe that's what's taking the Big Guys so long to finish their Important work....Hmmmm....... well we'll talk again I'm sure. Later, David
Name: mitch
cancel those N.Y. reservations
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 07:01:25
Comments:
How did this happen? Dusty Springfield are you fuckin serious?
Name: SAl
@pissonyou.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 06:40:54
Comments:
Schwinn, I'm soooo impressed with your massive intellgence. Who would know more about the head of a penis, than a Shmuck like yourself?
Name: Clas
IMHO ~ in my humble opinion
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 04:06:55
Comments:
¡Just testing!
$$$$
ñiñjo
Jaß ist eines vorscrechlische kunstforme.
Do you see the same as I see?
Name: Clas
@ work, pissed, OK?
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 02:44:38
Comments:
Reading this GBook is fucking incredible IMHO.
I think that writing out the whole words as, for example, "obsolete" is a little bit OBO nowdays (ND). So, what about this:
Hi Roy DD ya get any INFO FRM Berklee SCHL GBY AW GL I feel a little OBO ND, but much HPPR without the CGGS. LOLOLOLO.
Name: Carl Sagan
timereleasedcontact
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 01:30:30
Comments:
Happy Birthday, Kurt Vonnegut! Do you have any idea how much I envy you? I was considered the most intelligent man in the world (outside of Hawkings) yet succumbed to a disease I'D NEVER HEARD OF! I felt like a character in one of your books! Anyway, Freddy Mercury has really helped me turn my submissive streak into a more aggressive posture and I think I'm finally learning that it's better to give than to receive. Can you believe I'm hanging with a 70's rock icon? It's a billion times more exciting than I ever dreamed!
See You Soon,
Carl "Hindu Love God" Sagan
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 at 00:51:21
Comments:
Schwinn - I didn't.
Ole - thanx. But what about mrs Ignatius?
The Stranger - starving socialists? No one is starving in this country. We're not the richest country on earth but we take care of our own.
Bought Hornsbys new one - got only one word fot it:
El Supremo De La Grandioso De La Fucking Good!
Name: Schwinn
shippingearlytoavoidthestrike
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 23:44:21
Comments:
SAl: You've obviously never read "Venus on the Half-Shell" by Kilgore Trout, where the intricacies of navigating any vehicle solely through the head of one's penis is clearly outlined. You got a problem with KV, sucker?
Molly: Upset? We all know the Kinkster's lookin' for a gal so why don't you show him your 10" spread? I know the difference between butter and margarine...
RubyBaby: Now that you mention it, Joni Mitchell's collaboration with "The Third Danny", aka, Michael McDonald on "Dog Eat Dog" is about the worst duet I can think of. I guess she took Howard Jones' "Thing's can Only Get Better" a little too seriously.
Clas: How did you know my uncle had a talking sock-monkey?
Zeke: "And the lights we thought were a UFO was just the cops who told us it was time to go home."
Lights Out London,
SEMB
Name: Roy.Scam
because.rita.moreno.dressed.up.like.a.little.girl
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 21:17:55
Comments:
Interesting omissions from the recent lists of 70's favorites: Randy Newman, Harry Nillson, Procol Harum ("Conquistador"), Jesse Colin Young, Laura Nyro ("Time and Love", "And When I Die"), Tyrone Davis, Dolly Parton.
Best year ever for classic albums, 1974: The Band-Southern Cross, Northern Lights, Randy Newman-Good Old Boys, Steely Dan-Pretzel Logic, Bob Dylan- Blood On the Tracks.
Favorite embarrasing musical fondnesses: Bob Lind- "Elusive Butterfly", Weezer- "Only In Dreams", and. of course, that Rubber Ducky song by Ernie.
And don't forget (check me out on this, other trivial minded people): Grace Slick liked John Denver, Jerry Garcia liked Dolly Parton, Leonard Bernstein liked Janice Ian, Walter Becker sings about Green Acres.
JokeR: Since when do we become too old to learn? I'll bet five bucks I could still learn something from The Electric Company.
RS
Name: Sociable Hermit
ScreamingAtMyExtentionCord
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 19:53:36
Comments:
David in the Florida Room,
Sorry aboutt he interruption, but I was booted completely off the system, all the way back to my computers menu page. Apparently, AOL doesn't want me talking with you. So, please, don't think that it was some personal statement of mine to leave you in mid thought. I was given the heave-ho by an electronic bouncer. Still had my beer on the bar. Damn.Later,
Herm
Name: oleander
Le HOF du Mal
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 19:43:08
Comments:
Is it really true? Did they fuck up twice in a row?
Two strikes, OUT.
Name: oleander
marshmallow madness
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 19:33:55
Comments:
Stranger--Well! I can tell you were never a Brownie! Smokey has done a great service in sharing the timeless s'mores recipe. Only a few elaborations: I of course use Emet Kosher marshmallows (unfortunately, the texture is not quite up to Campfire Jet-Puffed). Some like their marshmallows burned to a crisp on the outside, the better to have a hot melty center. Others toast to a golden turn and clap the grahams on just before it slides off the stick. And scroll on, you Hershey purists, but you can't beat a square of Ghirardelli. Now look, I'm not trying to crash a good thing here; I'll just send a little care package via Myra (hey girlfriend, just be sure to keep it separate from the raw meat en route). But if there's any good lingerie left over, you could send it my way. Clean.
fezo--OK, I'm backing off, but only because of my esteem for you.
Clas--In my biz, LOL means "little old lady," as in LOL in NAD ("little old lady in no acute distress"). See "House of God," which is sort of the "Confederacy of Dunces" of the medical student. But here LOL is "laugh out loud." Hey, mazel tov on quitting smoking! People tell me it's harder than quitting anything else.
Herm--Say, I'd imagine s'mores would be the perfect surfing food for you. And the bouquet imparted by your smoking mulch.... Count me in among the CDNot Irregulars.
Name: JosieDanFan
JOSIEDANFAN@prodigy.net
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 18:07:51
Comments:
Hello fellow Dan fans!
I must say I was touched deeply today when a buddy of mine asked if and more hopefully when Steely goes on tour if they hit our area if he could escort me. I was thrilled that he not being an avid DanFan (except for the Josie kind)asked if he could get a tape of some of their songs, so he could get a feel for them, so now my dilema is..which songs do I put on it? I want to make the best impression I can make, so I can introduce yet another into the wonderful world of The Dan. I was thinking a lil of "Can't But a Thrill" a dash of "Pretzel Logic", a handful of "Royal Scam" and a heapin helping of "Aja" And "Gaucho". But please let me know what you all think.Rose and Geena: I have to confess, I to have a closet crush on Tim Curry. But I am more familiar with his acting abilities more so than his albums..and no "Rocky Horror" is not the only think I have seen him in.
Soc Herm: I to think the CDNow suggested listening is insulting and just plain wacky! I will join your crusade against this travisty, just let me know where your cave is please.
Emily( I think thats your name): Welcome..we can always use some younguns like myself and Lester around here! Stick around. It's fun!
See y'all later!!
JDF
Name: Sociable Hermit
In Awe (2 miles south of Jealousy & Envy)
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 17:35:11
Comments:
Steve V..
Woody Herman playing Aja and Green Earrings?! Wow! Next time something like that happens, call me! I don't care what time of day it is. My cell phone has voice mail, and I check it occassionally.
Did I ever mention that I got a cell phone? A guy in the next forest over got bitten while he was sleeping by something he described as a wombat. Got rabies all most immediately. Started to lose his mind. Started screaming that "they" were after him. "They", being the wombats. He said that after he was bitten, the wombat started laughing at him. Got the guy even madder, and he went after the wombat. Guess the wombat high-tailed it out of there so quickly, that on it's way to the cave mouth, it dropped something. Allegedly, it was a notepad with names on it, and many of the names were scratched off. His was the last one scratched off. They also had his social security number and last place of employment. When I found this out, I put the pieces together and automatically figured that this was a credit card scam, albeit much more thought out, similar to the ones the squirrels and woodchucks cooked up some time ago. Only, what these crafty wombats were doing was getting personal and financial information on people, then giving them rabies to kill them or cause them to go insane. Then, they apply for credit cards, using all the information. When the card comes, they rack up high bills that never get paid. The companies lose money, and our interest rates escalate as a result of these horribly larcenous wombats. We've turned over all our information and theories to both the FBI and Animal Welfare in the form of annonymous tips. We'll see what happens.
Oh, anyway, he said that the cell phone he had was the only thing that saved his life. He called 911 and they traced it to where he was and sped him to a hospital before it was too late. He's okay now, only you can't visit him unless you want to risk losing a foot tip-toeing through the ambush of animal traps.
Poor guy. Guess that's what happens when you've been approved for more credit than you need.Later,
Herm
Name: Steve V wondering
with Peet's coffee in cold wet Berkeley
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 16:29:07
Comments:
Great anecdotes ...Ruby .
Confessions of 'Dan-fan
..my becoming a Steely Dan freak circa 1976 as a too cerebral teenager included the usual adolescent education of Top 40...I Loved 'Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing...and 'Stuck In The Middle with You'....but I only knew Steely Dan as the "group that did Rikki Don't Lose That Number"....I was sure 'Reeling In the Years" was Crosby, Stills and Nash!......And I had no idea that 'Do It Again' was a Steely Dan song......my older brother brought home 'The Royal Scam' and I was hooked........I thought Fagen had a great voice...although at that time due to rare publicity phots it was hard to figure out which one was Becker and which one Fagen.....
in 1980 the great Woody Herman did a concert at my high school..in between sets I approached jazz legend and begged him to play "some Steely Dan stuff".....somewhat startled to see this frizzled haired beatnik/hippie (me!) among the crowd of over 50 year olds Woody nevertheless opened the next set with cool versions of 'Aja' and 'Green Earrings'!....Very cool!.......
.and I think the main reason I love the 'Dan so much is their connections to other worlds (i.e. Jazz-Charlie Parker...books-Burroughs etc....and through their session help other great groups (i.e. Larry Carlton, Joe Sample-the Crusaders, Wayne Shorter-Weather Report, Victor Feldman-his solo stuff)......good coffee good website=good post.......
Name: Zeke
Wonderin' where the Lions are
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 16:06:01
Comments:
Schwinn: UFO, Strangers In The Night. Now that rocks.
Pretty cool version of Train Train on a later LP.On my way out the door to catch the big Journey show tonight.
Without Steve Perry Oh yeah, I can hardly wait :(Wish I could have caught the Joni show. Did she sing Night Ride Home? That's a killer tune. Very nice guitar.
Name: RubyBaby
Home@Last
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 14:54:13
Comments:
Hi y'all: I came home last night (you didn't even know I was gone, did you?) and had a great Dan Moment right off the bat. As we were de-planing, New Frontier began playing throughout the airport. It was fun to be swept off my feet by a loved one to the sound of DF & Co.! I felt victorious for some reason.mWorld: What are the odds of that happening at FAT? (I refuse to acknowledge the FYI thing). I'll try to arrange a similar experience for you. Give me your return date/time. What's your preference? How about the Dog Eat Dog song?
Eviva: I've read everyones list of their non-Dan music pleasures with pleasure. (Thanx Professor Steve V for thinking of that. You are the man.) It brought back a ton of memories. I'll just share a couple of those.
1) Would you believe I gave up an opportunity to see the Styx at the Capitol Center, 4th row center? One of my more idiotic moments. Gary, I'll never forget you...
2) Pulling into my date's place of employment (the only Exxon in Columbia, Md at the time) at closing time. His boss trusted him so much. He puts Super Tramp into the tape player, cranks up the volume and begins loading tires into my car to the tune of Long Way Home. By the time I realize that he's using me to rip off his employer, it was too late. Jimmy, you were the last NY Boy I ever dated. Bronx Cheer to you.
3) Sitting on the rec room floor with Roy(not Scam) and Robin, listening to America's Horse With No Name album. We were just so comforatable together, we didn't have to say anything. We didn't even have to pass the pipe. We were good friends. We were real friends. I miss you two.
4) Running the cross-country track for the heck of it with Yes in the headphones. They are genius imho.
5) I could never do my homework to the Todd man. I loved his stuff so much, it was distracting. I knew it all by heart, but never tired of it.
RazorBoy: My heart is yours. Speaking of Heart, I loved them, too. Lemme go crazy on you.
gotta go,
rb
Name: David in the Florida Room
dmoore113@aol.com
FLA USA
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 13:52:19
Comments:
Hello Dansters,Had a great time on my cruise to Mexico last week(oh shut up!) But Back in the saddle now...first gig after vacation is the toughest...Forgot how to assemble all that gear
Roy Scam-How about Elvis Costello and Burt Bacharach Duo on Letterman......thanks for not letting Burt sing
Sociable Hermit-Scary stuff on CDNOW.....Like a Bad musical connect the dots
Rose Darling-I'm having trouble with aol/chat room thing also....?
Name: jokEr
the corpulent body surfaces
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 13:48:23
Comments:
Concerned Citizen: I think they were talking about Dylan, that dude from BH90210......
ROY SCAM: as one who does remember fargo, (as well as having the plesaure of meeting the likes of you) one has to wonder WHY were you watching the Electric Company back then, when you were obviously too old to actually LEARN anything from it....?
[Perhaps not too old to be engaging in illicit activities while giggling at Spidey's dialog delivery.....]
Name: More Influential than SD
Supposedly
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 13:41:25
Comments:
Bruce Springsteen <---without the E street band
Billy Joel
Paul McCartney <---as a solo this time
Del Shannon
Curtis Mayfield
Dusty Springfield
Staples Singers
Name: concerned citizen
@national treasures
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 12:23:26
Comments:
Howdy beautiful people!!! I read something in here that I
just had to ask the question about. Now I'm not a musician,
but what is the big deal about Dylan? I'm sorry if I offend
anyone here who happens to hold this guy up as one of the
greatest of all time, but I just don't get it. I understand
that they even have a college course somewhere just about
Bob Dylan. Now once again, I respect him as a musician, but
if you're going to have a course in college devoted to
lyrics may I suggest STEELY DAN as an alternative course,
I mean come on! Rock and Roll Hall of Fame would be nice,
but our boys belong in the SMITHSONIAN, right next to Duke.
C'ya.
Name: dangerous democrat
thisgetzbetter&better.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 11:35:46
Comments:
Newt, don't let the door hit you on the way out.And politically incorrect thought of the day.
"Texan, 'George W. Bush, describes himself as a, quote.
Compassionate' conservative, which in Texas means he asks
you how you like your Jello just before he flips the
switch."Craig Kilborn, The Daily Show
Hello Texas!! Count Z!! Still out there anywhere, or hiding under the rocks with everybody else?
Name: SAl
@ziplock.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 11:33:52
Comments:
That's all great, Uncle Gary... But the name's SAl.
Name: fezo
time.in.new.england
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 11:19:07
Comments:
Roy: Are you sure it was a woman who dragged (hint hint) you to the Manilow concert? Good god, man, I didn't sink so low to see the guy in concert.
Ole: Leave John Denver alone. He's actually a musical like that held up (unlike his plane) over the years. I actually play his albums from time to time.
Name: SD Stiffed Again!!!!
Fuck the R&RHofF voters!!!
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 11:12:26
Comments:
Steely Dan wasn't on the "winners" list
Name: Roy.Scam
turn.the.daytime.black
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 11:04:36
Comments:
fezo: Don't punish yourself over the Manilow usage; you were just a kid. Here's some real embarrasment: I attended a Barry Manilow concert during the 70's. It wasn't my fault; I was cajoled into it by a beautiful woman I was in love with at the time (whose name I won't mention in this venue). I was dragged in there by the zipper. Forgive me, for I have no remorse; in the long run, it turned out to be worth it. I just thank God that Michael Bolton wasn't famous back then.
Rose, Doc Mu: Didn't I see Boz S on some music award show two years ago doing an old blues song with Slash (of G&R)?
Zsa-Zsa: Was that Marty Robbins you mentioned? as in El Paso and Don't Worry Bout Me? Good choice, you closet redneck. Did you know that George Jones and Elvis Costello have performed together? Other famous duets: Bob Dylan and Bette Midler. Kris Kristofferson and Janis Joplin. Tom Jones and Crosby, Stills & Nash. David Bowie and Bing Crosby (honest). Roger Miller and the Muppets.
I saw Alanis Morrisette's new video in which she is naked. It's either a cruel video effect or Alanis is not anatomically correct. Let us pray that this doesn't spread to Shania Twain and Janet Jackson; enough fantasies have been destroyed.
Emily: Welcome. Are you really from Fargo? Is the town as good as the movie? Do you remember Fargo North, Decoder from the Electric Company?
Newt, we hardly knew Ye. Don't go away mad.
RS
Name: TheStranger
everything you did
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 10:35:36
Comments:
clas,
we've been hearing about this sternum agony since truman leveled hiroshima and NOW you tell us you were a smoker? what'd you expect? this is like someone wondering why he's got pain in his leg without mentioning it's stuck in a bear trap.what do cigarettes cost in sweden? you could have fed a lot of starving socialists.
Name: DrMu
pour me a northern breeze
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 10:10:20
Comments:
johnboy: Forgot to say I'm sorry to hear that about the turnout for the Boz...that vision I had must have actually been me sliding down Shania Twain's midriff.
Name: Sociable Hermit
ReelinInTheConfusion
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 10:01:05
Comments:
Hey Everyone,
Make fun of me if you will, but this is an indication of what I do with my free time.
I logged into CDnow to check out prices and such. Whenever I'm in there, I like to click on the prompt of, "if you like this artist, see what the Album Advisor suggests". I originally did Todd Rundgren and was stunned when they not only suggested Willie Nelson and Buddy Rich (?), but also, my beloved Spice Girls! As talented and wonderful as they are, I really see no connection between them. So, this revelation led me to investigate further. I next visited the discographies of Steely Dan, and it's two main boys, DF, and WB. Sit back.SD: They suggest that if you like SD, you also may be interested in Miles Davis (fine), Dylan's "Time Out Of Mind" ("if you like the title of this SD song, you may be interested in the titles of these other songs..."), Madonna (?) (!) (oh, now I see it, "Like A Virgin", and "Rikki Don't Lose That Number". Yeah.), James Taylor, Brian Setzer, Al Stewart, The Beatles, and Prince.
DF: They listed SD albums, but only two of them, apparently, if you like DF, they believe you'd be disappointed with the rest of SD's albums. The others were, again, James Taylor and Prince, Willie Nelson once again (isn't he an influence to us all? Who of us hasn't gotten high, cheated on our taxes, and recorded LP's to make all the hillbillies happy?), Elton John (must be the wild outfits they both wear), Bill Nelson, and Jimmy Buffett (ahhh, I don't really see it, but yet I can. Wow, how I'm growing!)
WB: Esquivel (what?),The Latin Playboys (huh?), Master P (Walter did domiante the rap charts in the late 80's under the moniker "Wappin' Wawwy B". His Elmer Fuddian rap style took the urban music industry by surprise in a time of success by artists such as Tone Loc and Young MC. His stark portrayals of "wife in da hood", and " all that dwive-by nonsense", set the tone for the harsh realities of today's gangtsa rap.) Also included were KMFDM, an industrial band, whose name stands for, "Kill Mother-F*king Depeche Mode", and also, the original cast recording of the musical "Gypsy". They don't even bother to list any of SD previos records. Why bother, when you have such an incredible selection of other influencial music to choose from?I hope I am not the only one who finds this all offensive. And arrogant. The "Album Advisor" is there ostensibly to guide people into purchasing music that is similar in taste, feel and sound to a record that they like. Imagine a teenager buying Aja, then looking for a comperable record, and seeing Al Stewart being suggested. I remember "Year Of The Cat" and "Time Passages" when I was a kid. Having to submit a new generation of teens to that would be cruel. What the hell are these people thinking, if indeed, their brains are capable of thought at all?
"What are you doing, Jason?"
"Just chillin' out, ma, to the original cast recording of "Gypsy"."
"Get down here now! We're going to the doctor."And in a review of ETOW, the writer suggested that Walter's voice was better than Donald's because he could rock more. He said it was a bit more nasal than, "Donald's flawless yuppie pop".
I am right now building up a supply of ammunition, food, and blankets. Anyone who wants to join me for the attack is warmly welcome to live in my cave until we've rectified this problem, and ensure that it never happen again. No matter how many lives it takes. Theirs, of course, not ours. Til then, I'll be collecting wood.
Later,
Herm
Name: Dirk
***
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 10:00:23
Comments:
You tell `em Uncle Gary! Who ever said Gary Katz doesn't know what he's talking about?!Thanks Uncle Gary
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 09:54:33
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!!
Thought I would share one of the "interesting places" to hear a Steely Dan song which occurred this morning. I called the state of TexAss Railroad Commission, a very strong state regulatory agency to bitch, complain, gripe, etc. about a business situation where I asserted they were nothing but a money-grabbing, well----in the background, I could hear "Peg", and I paused my verbal attacks, and told the lady on the phone, "that is some GREAT music you have playing in the background of your office, do you know who sings it?" She said, "No". I responded, it is a Steely Dan song from the "Aja" album----she said, "I like some of his stuff"-----LOL, and then, back to the oral disparaging remarks I went . . .
Saludos!!!
Michael
; )
Name: DrMu
brainfartsR Us
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 07:25:31
Comments:
johnboy: Thanks for the correction...could have been Freudian as all I can see is Bonnie Raitt on the slide
Name: MrLaPage
pausing
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 07:08:16
Comments:
Rose Darling: I don't think Maria McKee has been on any subsequent BVB albums. Come to think of it, I don't think the BVB has released anything since around 1992. I could be wrong. The show was in 1989 (October). The tour was for their first album, "The Black Velvet Band." I caught a few concerts there that year. The coup was when I convinced the sales girl at HMV Records to sell me tickets to the Van Morrison concert the day before they were supposed to go on sale. I don't know how it happened, but I know I'll never have better seats for another concert in my life. The Van Morrison show was in December in a place called the Depot, an old train station. About 5,000 seats. Mine were front and center. I could see the sweat dripping off his head. And let me tell you something, he sweat a lot that night. I also saw The Beautiful South (lead singer is PD Heaton formerly with the Housemartins) perform in a high school gymnasium. Only about 200 people showed up. The show was great. I recommend that everyone own all the Beautiful South albums.
I'll stop now.
Name: Smoky the bear
delaying hibernation
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 04:13:38
Comments:
Stranger - LOL (that's "laughing out loud" to the Swede) at picturing you wrapping up a s'more in a Victoria's secret nightie and trying to eat it.
GB COOKBOOK
S'MORES
(n.) Traditional campfire food.
Take two graham crackers. Square of chocolate. Big marshmallow. Toast the marshmallow. Slip skewer between two grahams, press together till marshmallow melts chocolate. Eat.
And don't forget to throw lots of dirt on your campfire, boys and girls. Or you know who'll come calling. And I'm grumpy when I miss my sleep and the cameras aren't around. GRRRRRRR!
Name: Deborah's Hairy
* *
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 03:30:15
Comments:
Some of my favorites:
"I always loved the way you played guitar. I always knew that someday you'd go far. But if you do, will anything happen?"*
"Once I had love and it was a gas. Soon turned out (I) had a heart of glass."
I still can't believe I wrote those lyrics! Not to mention "Rapture"! Rhyming cars with bars was an extraordinary leap for a common super-8 slut like me and opened the door for powerful gals like Madonna! How I ever found the inspiration to pen those tunes, well, I guess I'll just need to stop obsessing over my dark roots and go through past-life regressions like my tantric sex instructor has been urging me to for years.
*Mucho Mistrust No More*
Blondie
Name: johnboy
drowning in a sea of mud
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 02:27:25
Comments:
Dr Mu: "Come on _Home_" is the Boz Scaggs cd I have. One of the best of last year. He played a lot of half empty venues with a 12 or 14 piece band in '97. Great shows...
Name: I'm going downtown
to BUY Hornsby's new one
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 02:07:48
Comments:
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 02:05:18
Comments:
Schwinn is the best - you are talking in your night-hat Uncle.
Hey!I forgot to tell the good news! I've quit smooking! My Sternum Agony is much better now. And now I'm going downtown to by Hornsby's new one.
Name: Uncle Gary
comfortingnewt
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 01:22:20
Comments:
It's about time someone had the balls to put Schwinn in his place, St. Al! Other than you, no one keeps this site as fresh, interesting and exciting as Kinky.
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 01:13:34
Comments:
I had a very terrible moment last night. Real scary actually. It was after the last dogwalk and before the Mogadons. I sat down and listened to Hornsbys "Harbor Lights". While listening I thought of the Gbook and Eviva came to mind.
And Metheny.
And damm! There's no Pat on "Harbor Lights"!
And it was cold outside. No computer at home.
Eviva - the album is "Hot House". Sorry.
Rose - howdy.
Oleander - what the hell is LOL? And another thing - do you think we can trace down Ignatius mother down in the Big Easy? Let's take the streetcar named Desire!
Just by chance I turned om MTV this morning and what happends? A good band, "Beautiful South", the song Perfect 10, with a very cool bagatellish Rhodes-groove
Howdy folks.
Name: TheStranger
slow down, i'll tell you when
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 23:25:56
Comments:
rose darling,
you called my bluff and i'm sitting here with no pairs. i haven't the slightest idea what everybody's got coming to them & i don't have the energy to go back over the old posts and figure it out. i'm running on empty. but toward the end of the year i'll make a list and check it twice & my guess is you've been naughty, not nice, which is one of the reasons i like you.oleander,
i surrender, what's a s'more? i mean i can make a pretty good guess, but trouble is i haven't got time to keep a harem right now anyway. just the cost of all that lingerie is outrageous. but what the hell, i might as well fulfill that fantasy while i'm still up to it. send your resume straight to me. don't bother to go through personnel.
Name: oleander
soup of the evening, beautiful soup
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 20:04:09
Comments:
Rose--Just went to chat, no problems logging on. Just missed someone there.
Mu--did it again!
Name: oleander
she's got everything she needs
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 19:54:39
Comments:
ZsaZsa dollink--I listened the hell out of Hazel & Alice back then.
fezo--all right. I can't stand to see you twisting slowly in the wind. When I was about 11 I was a big fan of the Chad Mitchell Trio, including when Chad Mitchell was replaced by an upstart snot named John Denver.
Stranger--Goddamn, I miss all the good parties. Can you use some s'mores?
Schwinn--No no no, no congratulations, just a little pipedreaming.
Name: DrMu
goin'downonetime
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 19:46:12
Comments:
RoseD: Boz has had a bit of a comeback on the 90s...Starting with the NYR&SR in '91 crooning Gamble & Huff's "Drowning in the Sea of Love." The return to R&B and blues resulted in two studio albums "Some Change" in 1994 and "Come on Over" in 1997. "Come on Over" was mostly blues covers with a few of Boz's own mixed in. It received a Grammy nomination for Best Contemporary Blues (I can't remember if it won). Fred Tackett (Little Feat), Michael Omartian, and Eliot Scheiner have helped on one or both of these efforts I'm pretty sure...too real for the radio I guess
Name: ZsaZsaFactor
thestemcellranch
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 18:35:32
Comments:
bic flickin
70's styx, eddievanhalen, rush, ledzeppelin, stephane grappelli jon luc ponty, dave mason, grandmasterflash, zappa (mostly overnight sensation), jeffbeck, bobby sherman, john denver, elton john, threedognight, beetles, supertramp, chicago, beegees, robin trower80's l subramanium, l shankar, kate bush, peter gabriel, roxy, michael franks, jsbach, much more zappa shut up and play yer guitar, uncle bonzai, tracy chapman, suzanne vega, all the neville brothers, eric clapton, kingcrimson, brian eno, david bowie, devo, beatles, john&yoko, golden palominos, talking heads, lou reed, joni, sex pistols, billie, ella, mahalia, motown, the police, andy summers, stewart copeland, sting, buddy rich, miles davis, john coltrane, 10,000 maniacs, elvis costello, prince, monsoon, todd rundgren, u2, jimi, beethoven, this mortal coil, kronos
90's edgarmeyer, dave douglas, flecktones, all the wooten brothers, cecilia bertoli, david olney, jamesbrown, steelydan, martyrobbins, hazel dickens/alice gerrard, alison krauss.
the new rem album. gidon kremer, leata galloway... still flickin'ancient chinese secret handshake,
Dah Ling / So Long
Name: Larry
on a break
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 18:26:28
Comments:
Wow! These messages sure do pile up fast!
Rose Darling, I wrote here a couple of times in the past, but my new job doesn't allow me the time anymore. I had just read the "RITY" biography when I saw the subject being discussed, and although I enjoyed it, there wasn't much I hadn't heard or read before. I followed them pretty closley in the `70's and collected all the back issues of The Metal Leg Fanzines. The book only had a couple of tid-bits that I wasn't aware of, and didn't answer any of the real questions I had regarding Becker and Fagen.
Someone just mentioned they liked a musician named Waymon Tisdale. Is that the basketball player? I'd like to hear how his album is.
Name: Rose Darling
@what's the problem-o?
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 18:25:36
Comments:
Trying to get into the chat room here. Keep getting kicked off AOL every time I log in. Any similar experiences out there?
P.S. I hope it's not because I'm a vociferous miscreant.
Name: Rose Darling
@14 Moscow Road
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 17:59:59
Comments:
Geena:
ALLRIGHT!!! Another Tim Currry fan with a secret crush surfaces !!! Do you have any Tim albums? I've worn out my Avalon album too !!! Did you ever see the two music videos for songs from Avalon?
Maria McKee still is recording solo cds. The latest is this year or last but I didn't get it. I would kill to see her in concert ! If I wanted to be one of my female vocalist heroes, it's either her or Janis Siegel of Manhattan Transfer. Maria is a killer singer and songwriter of amazing proportions.
Man, this group gets more interesting every day.Mr. LaPage:
Is M. McKee still singing with the Black Velvet Band? When was the show outside Dublin?fezo:
That eponymous solo album RULES. Did you see Maria McKee in the video with Robbie Robertson for "Crazy River" ? HIGHLY entertaining stuff.
LMAO @ your Tales from the Secret Manilow Files.
I sing the "Copacabana" song to everyone I know who's worth heckling, changing the lyrics to fit their lives ! I think you can come out of the corner now.Michael C. Packard:
Thanks for bringing George Benson and Boz Scaggs to mind.
What the heck are those guys doing these days? Boz had a cool song a few years ago on the radio but it didn't seem to jump start a comeback for him.Stranger:
I assumed that when you said "you'll all get what's coming to you" (whilst busily engaged with your life at the time) that I was high on that list. Was I wrong?
Name: Emily Skinner
JuliCap@aol.com
Location: Fargo, ND USA
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 17:56:41
Comments:
THIS IS AWESOME!!! Steely Dan is my absolute favorite. I'm of the new generation, but I can't get enough of them. I know every song, every lyric, everyTHING about them! I also love Donald's THE NIGHTFLY. This is wonderful that you are devoting a much needed sight to the talents of these two intellectuals who have SUCH a distinct and grooving style. This site will "SHINE in your Japan, Sparkle in your China, and cross many old men in Arkansas!" =)
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 17:00:11
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!
Musical listening after "Gaucho"----80's----more Steely Dan, Stones, Hendrix, Cream, Miles Davis, Weather Report, Crusaders,
Al Di Meola, George Duke, George Benson, John McLaughlin, Horace Silver, Jeff Lorber, Heart, Jeff Beck, Toto, Bonnie Raitt, Talking Heads, Kraftwerk, Grateful Dead, Roxy Music, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Frank Zappa, Bob Marley, Peter Gabriel, Boz Scaggs, The Tubes, Spyro Gyra, Michael McDonald, Pink Floyd, and . . .Well, the '90's---hmmm, More Steely Dan/Walter Becker/Donald Fagen stuff, David Sanborn, Larry Carlton, Waymon Tisdale, Grover Washington, Jr., Tears For Fears, Collective Soul, Kenny Wayne Shepherd, David Sanborn, Yellowjackets, Blues Traveler, Bob James, George Winston, more Stevie Ray, Will Ackerman, Michael Hedges, Alex de Grassi, Keola Beamer, Basia, Kenny G, Evan Marks, and . . .
Saludos and thanks for asking, Steve V.
Michael
; )
Name: TheStranger
let's do it right
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 13:57:13
Comments:
myra eyefull,
i am apalled that you would think so little of me as to discuss my favors and trade me around the campfire as though i were a tasteless camel or something. what? no flowers, no candy (dark chocolate with cherry centers), no candle-light dinners? besides which, i seem to recall your husband sits around this campfire himself from time to time and i really hate being shot. however, i figure you're probably worth it. so all is forgiven. peek into my tent any midnight. carry raw meat. no, i'm not kinky (excuse the pun). it's to buy off the camp dogs. they're vicious.
Name: fezo
ways.to.be.wicked
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 11:20:49
Comments:
McKee also did some killer background vocals on Robbie Robertson's first solo album.
Rose, Dr. Mu: I tried Avalon but it didn't have the same impact as Boys and Girls.
Rose: You want incriminating, here's incriminating. When I was a lad of 12 or 13 and somewhat successful on the junior tennis circuit, I had a specific pre-match routine. I would play Barry Manilow's "It's A Miracle" to get myself all fired-up. If it was a really crucial match (semi-finals, finals), I would have to listen to "Copacabana" too.
Going to hide in a corner now
fezo
Name: Myra Eyefull
Matchmaker,matchmaker,make me a match
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 10:43:34
Comments:
Fezo: If Big Roy gets Minah, can I have the Stranger?
Name: fezo
findmeafind.catchmeacatch
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 09:34:21
Comments:
Roy: As Ole somewhat obliquely indicated, I had given you a different wife in the midst of my musical musings. Your wife is, of course, myra, not minah. I must have forgotten to consult my handy dandy GB family tree. No matchmaking was intended
Name: Molly McButterrrrrrrrr
10.inch.spread
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 09:29:15
Comments:
Whats the matter, Schwinn? You upset because nobody congratulated *you* for being an asshole? I don't think even Kinky can hold a candle to you in that department.
Heart of glASSHOLE,
MMB
Name: Keep your eyes on the road
your hand
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 07:57:15
Comments:
Yeah Schwinn- That would REALLY be `practicing proper meat handling`.
Name: SAl
@jerkoff.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 07:45:55
Comments:
Schwinn, now that UFO can't "get you off" anymore, maybe it's high time to go back to your hand... Remember, make sure one hand is still on the wheel, or you might fall off your bike sucker!
Name: MrLaPage
@work
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 06:32:37
Comments:
Geena: In addition to Lone Justice and her solo work, Maria McKee sings on a few tracks for an Irish band, the Black Velvet Band, on its "King of Myself" cd. It's great. I think everyone should own it. In fact, before she joined the band for that album, she opened for them during a tour in Ireland. I was fortunate enough to attend a show just outside Dublin, and when she finished her set, she sat down next to me and my friend (long story, but the show was put on in a circus tent, in the evenings when the circus was not performing. Fossett's Circus I believe). Both of us were madly in love with her since her Lone Justice days, but neither of us could muster the courage to speak right away. And then, just like that, poof, she was gone . . .
Name: Edd
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 03:18:48
Comments:
Maria McKee sang with Lone Justice, charting in 1985 with Tom Petty's "Ways To Be Wicked"...
Name: Schwinn Schwartz
eneggernogg
Date: Monday, November 9, 1998 at 00:31:47
Comments:
Damn! I just listened to UFO and they sucked! Ain't it funny how the creeps that got you off 20 years ago are showing up here on the guest book like your pathologically lying Uncle Gary always did right when you thought his vinyl collection was yours? Sort of like Kinky admitting his fondness for Blondie while Oleander congratulates him for being an asshole. "Well", dad always used to say, "that's family for you. Hey, has that Butterball's thermometer popped-out yet?"
Practicing Proper Meat Handling,
SEMB
Name: oleander
the woodwork squeaks and out come the freaks
Date: Sunday, November 8, 1998 at 20:43:41
Comments:
Oh yeah: Was/ Not Was.
PS Kinky: Did you purposely wait until Hoops! went out of town to volunteer him?
HB, BF!
Name: oleander
she don't look back
Date: Sunday, November 8, 1998 at 20:37:33
Comments:
Roy--Alas, I've yet to heed your sage advice and watch more TV. Anybody tape the HRL/ BFF show? Or know when it'll be repeated?
Kinkers--That was funny.
fezo--Roy & Minah--hmmm--there's an interesting transcontinental relationship.
stevev--does that mean you're the seventh son?
Music--'70's: (Besides the Dan) Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Coltrane, Sun Ra, Rahsaan Roland Kirk, Betty Carter, Bonnie Raitt, McCoy Tyner, Miles Davis, Stanley Cowell, Richard & Mimi Farina, Fania All-Stars, Willie Colon, Ruben Blades, Aretha, much Motown (Temps, Four Tops, Marvin Gaye, Junior Walker, on & on), Beatles, Hendrix, Zappa, EW&F, Tower of Power, Gil Scott-Heron, Mingus, Weather Report, Mahavishnu Orchestra, the Band, Dead, Stones, Art Lande & Rubisa Patrol, Richie Beirach, Keith Jarrett. That was a long decade. 80's--more of the same, plus Fela Anikulapo Kuti, Talking Heads, Doobies, Joe Jackson, Elvis Costello, Peter Gabriel, Prince, Joan Armatrading, Archie Shepp, Rickie Lee Jones, Pretenders, Paul Simon. 90's--More of the same, plus Monk, Sonny Rollins, Charlie Parker, kd lang, Celia Cruz, Lyle Lovett, Alanis, P-Funk, Olatunji, Sting, Beck, Brubeck, CPD, BFF, DMB, DF, WB, Clas, & Roy. I haven't really let go of much over the years--it's more a sedimentary kind of thing. And thanks to my kids, I've listened to a LOT of Living Colour, Weird Al, Michael Jackson, A Tribe Called Quest, and the Beasties, not to mention the same artists that Roy mentioned.
Name: Geena
Sunday into Monday
Date: Sunday, November 8, 1998 at 20:01:19
Comments:
Stranger: I absolutely love the Stones and got to see them for the first time in my life last fall and they still rock!
Rose Darling: Maria McKee was fantastic. Is she still around? I can't seem to remember the name of her band though. Like Springsteen, U2 were really good at first. IMO October and Boy were the best they've ever done musically, but they were hungry at the time. Sting, however has done very well on his own, some of his deeper cuts, especially on Dream of the Blue Turtle and Mercury are really good. I did forget to mention Brian Ferry and Roxy Music....yessssssssssssss!!!!! Avalon is the best, I think I wore out the album, very sensual stuff. I also loved Tim "I Do the Rock" Curry. I've always had a secret crush on him, still do.
Steve V: clean and sober? we are? well maybe some of us. Ringo used to narrate the early Thomas The Tank Engine series. That's how my nephew learned to talk and with a british accent too!Clas: No, I'm not angry with you. Yes, I got your email and have made 3 attempts to respond to you, but my email keeps kicking back as undeliverable. I think you need to speak to your IP.
I'm off to see the Wizard.....
Name: Midnite Cruiser
sameasiteverwas
Date: Sunday, November 8, 1998 at 17:34:35
Comments:
hanging out in the chat room for a few....gotta see that season premiere of the X-Files in a few though....hope y'all have a good night!
Name: TheStranger
oh yeah
Date: Sunday, November 8, 1998 at 12:04:40
Comments:
dylan.
Name: TheStranger
up on the hill
Date: Sunday, November 8, 1998 at 12:01:13
Comments:
ok, i'm still up to my armpits in crap to do, but seems like no one's mentioning the stones & to me, no list would be complete without them. another big influence on me -- crosby, stills, nash, young (showing my age) & the dead. and yes, can't forget joni mitchell, already mentioned by others. her 'the last time i saw richard' on 'blue' has got to be the saddest anthem ever -- but brilliant, magnificent.
listened carefully to title track 'aja' last night & tried to find even a hint of rock. a brilliant jazz piece, which i guess changed my musical direction forever. but when 'gimme shelter' comes on, who can resist?
Name: Rose Darling
@just the basic facts
Date: Sunday, November 8, 1998 at 11:45:58
Comments:
How could I have forgotten two of my other favorites not yet seen mentioned?
70's-Wings (McCartney's best years post-Beatles)
80's/now: singer Maria McKee (anyone else here know of her?)
Name: Steve V O'
chillin' @the dude ranch.....
Date: Sunday, November 8, 1998 at 11:36:56
Comments:
winter is upon us in the great Golden State......which means...rain on the coast...snow in the sierra's........
item #1-happy Birthday to Rickie ('Don't Lose Walter Becker's Number) Jones!.......maybe she can open for Steely Dan in '99!
item#2- lyric interpretation (for Oleander's page)...with all this Newt Ginrich talk I keep hearing the phrase "up on the hill"...which of course brought to mind Steely's 1977 epic track 'Aja' (again!)....could the songs character be some sort of military intelligence/pow....and "up on the hill" refer to US Government funding...the por guy is wasting away in a pow camp....dreaming of romancing .....sort of Apocalypse Now meets Victor Mature meets....a really good bag of weed (oops soory we're all clean and sober now!)...
item #3-was watching early morning tv with my lil'boy (10 months old already walking {and talking} and 25 lbs.) and the show was 'Theodore the Tugboat'......starring....as the Captain.....Denny Doherty!.....late Mamma's and Pappa's....and one time ABC Dunhill assignment of Fagen and Becker!....does this mean Walter Becker will be hosting Mose the Fireman in 2018!...........
also thanks for everyone who posted their musical tastes (other than Dan Steele'.....I've faxed it all over to the CIA...they'll be tracking your listening habits and planting mind control chips in your brain while you sleep......new X-Files tonite (better be friggin' good!)
Name: Rose Darling
@just.nod.if.you.can.hear.me
Date: Sunday, November 8, 1998 at 11:35:55
Comments:
Man, where have I been? I don't know DIDDLY SQUAT `bout Pat Metheny music. Perhaps I am culturally challenged as I used to get most of my music inspiration from radio airplay and MTV, but how the heck did you PM fans stumble upon this guy's music?
Geena:
Yup, got your letter, replied belatedly today. You've got eclectic and jivin' taste in music. You right, girl, Bono is "gold lame." He and Sting lost their charm to me when they found out they were really good and it showed in their faces. Roxy Music rates high with me. Blondie's "Parallel Lines" is one of my favorite albums of all time.Clas: Howdy. Excellent quote from the book you're reading.
rubybaby: I forgot to thank you for the funny joke e !
Roy Scam:
Squeeze played Hard Rock Live recently? Together again/new cd in the works, do ya know? I love those guys.fezo:
You tease. C'mon and bare your "potentially incriminating likes." I'll bare one of mine. I'm a big fan of Tim Curry's old albums.
P.S. As Dr. Mu asked, what did you think of Roxy Music's "Avalon" cd. Pretty sensual stuff to me.YGK: Enjoyed your dissertation to Razor on the art world versus the Dan. More please.
Kinky:
When you gonna give a real email address? Perhaps you are merely a figment of our collective dark sides after all.Eviva "Makes Me Smile" Laughs:
Still working on a time/date for your shower. Would you email me with some suggestions? EWF rules. Didn't EWF release a new cd this year? Have you heard it? They are coming on tour to South Florida in January.
You offered a most interesting viewpoint on Kinky's posts, with a great deal of tact, humor and validity. I guess just I'm in the minority of people who don't find catharis or dignity in such a process. I know my posts make me sound self-righteous sometimes. That's partially because it's unpopular to stand up for goodness and fair play, you know, the kind we all were taught as kids but some abandoned at adolescence? But I hope you're kidding when you say "oh, you are SUCH a much better person than I am!" I'm not trying to come across as superior but I DO believe in my convictions unapologetically so perhaps that's arrogant. Hey, humility is not my strong point, alrighty
then ! In this Freaky Deaky Geeky Free-For-all Forum, I arrogantly assume that I have just as much right to vehemently parade my opposition to flaming as others have the right to flame bonfires and sling water balloons in reply to flames, yes?
Anyway, `nuff said. The soapbox creaks as I step down. :D
In the Artistry Creates Strange Studio Mates Department:
Looking over the credits for Pink Floyd's "The Wall" I discovered a bizarre choice for back up vocalist which I had never noticed before: Toni Tennille (of Captain and Tennille fame.) That's my freaky trivia tidbit for the day. Every now and then a factoid jumps out of an album, cassette or cd cover and smacks me in the face.
Name: EvivaLaughs
between e-mails
Date: Sunday, November 8, 1998 at 08:19:15
Comments:
Clas: For a sec I was afraid you thought I was dissin you, but methinks you're making a little "truth" joke on me. hee hee--that's a good one :)
BTW--THANKS for the Metheny tip--we're big fans around here...!!
Kinky: You're such a funny little guy....Now why are you squeaking at me to give you justice, when it's mercy you've already been getting :)?
Name: Schwinn
skyrocketsinflight
Date: Sunday, November 8, 1998 at 02:22:25
Comments:
Wow, all this Metheny talk is giving me a Woody Herman! Down Boy!
Pardon me while I join the "Greatest Hits of the 70's" discussion. I know the new show on FOX is really close to telling it like it "it was", but I have my own opinions.
1. UFO. I saw this band the first time Michael Schenker woke up from his Copenhagen haze and joined his band-mates opening for Jethro Tull. Very hard. Very loud. The bass player fell off the stage and a swarm of enthusiastic fans bouyed him back to his feet in seconds. An early mosh-pit experience.
2. Aerosmith. "Rocks" had just been released and as 16,000 screaming fans began thumping to "Back in the Saddle", Joe Perry collapsed on stage and the concert was delayed for almost 30 minutes. Very '70's...
More Later. Carburetor's clogged...
SEMB
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Sunday, November 8, 1998 at 01:28:50
Comments:
Eviva - yeah, what do I know.
And have you heard Metheny on B Hornsby's "Hot House"? Go buy it!
YGK - hi! Peace!
Pete Fogel - what happened to the Steely Danmed CD?
And for all of you who are wondering, I am recording. Very busy, very Big Wigish. It's just me and a acoustic guitar. I am doing a rap-version of Jackson Brownes "Lives In the Balance". Very subversiv.
Howdy folks.
Name: Ungrateful Bastard
Sweet Home Chicago
Date: Saturday, November 7, 1998 at 22:22:00
Comments:
Hey All:Been a while since I peeked in here. Noticed all the references to Pat Methaney, great stuff, Off Ramp is my favorite. More importantly, am I the only one who ever heard or remembers a group called Kane Gang? They came out in the mid-80s with an album that had a few songs that if you didn't know any better, might swear it could be Steely Dan.
Name: Publisher's Clearing Whore
you.may.already.be.a.weiner
Date: Saturday, November 7, 1998 at 11:39:23
Comments:
I think it would be more amusing to guess the release date of the *new bone*!
And who in the Christ is Clean Willy?
Name: Manhattan Dan Fan
PPV
Date: Saturday, November 7, 1998 at 09:31:36
Comments:
Yes Ed I saw the Joni Mitchell PPV--pretty great. She said she liked the word Hejira in part because of the dangling J -- "just like Aja" -- but then she remembered that Hejira preceeded Aja. None of it made much sense but it is interesting to hear the reference. I think I also read somewhere that 'Deacon' is on her list of 10 songs to take to a desert island.
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch packing for a trip
Date: Saturday, November 7, 1998 at 08:35:25
Comments:
Count: P.S. I'd have left for DFW this morning except tonight is this season's first televised exhibition basketball game for the Jayhawks... Ya know, we DO have our priorities!! Here's to hoping to meet another GB'er face to face... slurp.
Name: ZEBULON
zisrael@goplay.com
Location: Gary, Indiana usa
Date: Saturday, November 7, 1998 at 04:47:12
Comments:
"I recall when I was small".....in "77" I was in the 7th grade
playing basketball (maybe the last time I played),I heard "Peg"
coming from God knows where.I was awestruck! I think the same day I got
home,I heard ELO's "Turn To Stone",and I knew then that music would
be my life!It never cease to amaze me how when you look @ other people list
of favorite discographies,how Steely Dan is listed with various music
genres.For sake of space,my list is found @ http://www.angelfire.com/in/zebcom
but I can tell you now,you put me on a deserted island with the
COMPLETE discography of Steely Dan,Pat Metheny GROUP,and Earth Wind & Fire,
and STYX,I'll be straight!Could someone help a poor soul like me? I somehow "lost" my copy of
"Becker & Fagen" the Early Years. If I could just get someones recorded copy
of this,I'd be forever in their debt.
peace
Name: Kinky
KinkySoNSo@aol.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 1998 at 00:42:00
Comments:
Hey, how 'bout a contest? Everyone try to guess the release date of the *new one*. The winner will receive their choice of Steely Dan related CD's courtesy of Hoops McKay! A prize will also be awarded to the person who can guess which new Steely Dan song was actually written by Larry Carlton. The losers have to hang out with GoldKeith for a day.
Josie - I apologize. I didn't realize you live in Minnesota.
Eviva - You're right, I have provided you with "an outlet", a "license to flame", "an opportunity to use your wits". And you've, once again, demonstrated your inability to take advantage of a situation.
Clean W - No, believe me, I wouldn't want to fuck with you. You might make me the subject of another one of those scathing parodies of yours.
Name: ed beatty
edbeatty@pe.net
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 21:18:09
Comments:
Any Joni Mitchell/Steely Dan Fans out there?
She was fantastic tonight on USSB pay per view and lightly refered to HEJIRA coming out before AJA..
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 20:46:08
Comments:
Dr. Mu, you perceptive devil - It was eerie reading your post in reference to Doyle, because as I was composing mine, I knew I was almost slagging the very musicians who have been part of inner core - Bard College kept ringing in my head as I sat at the keyboard. - after reading your post and that of YGK, I don't really know if I struck a chord or hit a nerve - Of course, when I listed my roots in music, I forgot about the Country phase I went through as a pre teen in the mid sixties, or a lover of Motown as a pubescent in the early seventies. It's so diverse, I really have no right to quote negatively or criticize any music, regardless of its source. Somewhere, sometime, someone liked it - And still does.
Razor Boy (somewhat rusty from a bout of self righteousness)
Name: DrMu
Newt's kaput in a zoot suit
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 20:18:16
Comments:
Mr Stewart: I've heard great things about Kiko. I've got some the earlier stuff like "Will the Wolf Survive?" The east LA version of The Band.
Fezo: How about "Avalon?'...very dreamy and Dan-like
so many I left out too, but was thinkin's about some of the 70s Soul like Al Green, Johnnie Taylor, The Spinners, O'Jays, Stylistics, Temptations, etc. I just saw a '96 release ("Good Love" or something like that) of Johnnie Taylor's in a local store...sampled a couple of tracks. It kicks the rear out of Levert, Sweat and the other New-Jack jackasses...they don't make 'em like they used to
Name: JosieDanFan
fine @nd dandy
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 19:33:05
Comments:
Hello fellow Dan Fans!!
It's been awhile since I've read the posts..have a bit of catching up.
I've just been so busy trying to find a station NOT interviewing, talking about or poking fun at my new gov'na. Yes Jesse is my new state leader. By the way, he wants to be called Jesse "The Mind" Ventura from now on. Wish me luck guys..this could get interesting. I think the ppl of Minnesota wanted a change, and boy did we get it!! I think it will be fun though..who knows. Anyhoo..
Eviva: Don't listen to the Kinkster. I think he just is a bit jealous of your fiance. I can't say as I blame him..you rock sista!!
JDF
P.S. Kinky: save you typing fingers on insulting me..this nitwit probably won't understand your highly witty insults, not does she care too..have a happy day!! ;o)
Name: Mr. Stewart
Dunno
Location: Anchorage, AK
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 15:36:52
Comments:
Hello all you little ol' pretty ones...Been a while. I'm off the net at home to save dough. Our old school building is finally on line so here I am. My 23 lovely second graders are cool. Started the year off with DF's IGY and the kids dug it.
Music tip: Go get Los Lobos' "Kiko". Been out a while but I just found it and it has a hold on me. Every bit as creative and elegant as our boys.
Mr. Stewart
Name: fezo
how.could.i.forget?
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 15:35:59
Comments:
Little Feat
Dire Straits
early Prince -- check out 1999, his last great album, though Purple Rain comes close
Bryan Ferry -- of Roxy Music fame. has done one disc of note, Boys and Girls, very, very, erotic. Roy, that was going to be my anniversary suggestion for you and Minah. Kick the kids out of the house, put "Boys and Girls" on and . . .
Name: Joe M
@same
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 14:29:26
Comments:
Razorboy,
The Irish scribe, Roddy Doyle, responsible for the story "The Commitments", is (quite obviously) a big music fan. The story appears in a volume entitled "The Barrytown Trilogy" which also features "The Snapper" and "The Van". Two excellent pieces as well. Could the title possibly be in deference to the duo? Perhaps...
Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, NY
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 13:00:17
Comments:
Razor: I will remember that line tonight as I view the opening of someone who calls herself an artist, and who convinced a Gallery in Chelsea to show her 'work' - all the while overbrandishing her '8 years of art school' - and her work at the Dia Center for the Arts in Chelsea, as the collective math that 'makes an artist'. To see her, uh, work - stones and found objects, that latest of which look like used feminine hygiene products - is to look arrogance and self-importance in the face, and one must therefore BE the little boy in the Emperors New Clothes: "BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ON!"
Such is my take on much (but not all) of the Art World, all the while I continue to break the seams during my own personal quest for access into it...
This person regards her work as art, "by the means of her education", and therefore, knowledge of "what art is", because she went to art school. As laughable as this sounds, she actually takes herself quite seriously, while hurling insults about the 'ignorant pseudo artists' around her.
What she fails to realize is that the method of commerce - at least in this venture - and, even in academic and critical thinking, it's all about taste, and every now and then, some dealer/critic actually experiences some quality and craft that touches one's soul - and then THERE, Marge, is where you have art.
While there's something to be said that she's showing in Chelsea, there's also a lot of bad decisions being made in the new center for art in NYC, and will continue to be made in the spirit of the next big thing, but I look forward to experiencing her work, and continually wondering what the issue about her work is.
It's cold, it's placid, it doesn't move me, it's aesthetically unseemly and downright ugly. Little craft, no substance, other than the spoken words of a mechanical bull of an art theorist who's self importance and value is, unfortunately, in the sewer.What makes Steely Dan so terrific is that the art school folks AND those with little musical background can both dig it. There is substance backing up the band, and if you're a musician who wants to analyze chord changes, or a fan just enjoying the guitar solo, the Dan make their point(s) without all the unnecessary pretention, and always open to different interpretations.
Wow - that sounds like Art now, doesn't it.
ygk
Name: Razor Boy
joebj@compmore.net
Location: Kanata, Ont Canada
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 11:41:16
Comments:
Steve O - As the protaganist in the movie "The Commitments" said (his name escapes me) about those mid '80's bands - "It's all art school shit." But if it's got a good beat and gets you toes a tapping, trash those critics. Personally, Don Henley, Van Morrison, Bruce Hornsby, Jackson Browne, John Mellancamp all had good efforts. But for sheer lyrical creativity and a great "sound" Steve Earle has few equals - Country, rock, an occasional blues flavour, Blue Grass; he can do it all. Too bad he's a bit of a burn out, but still finds a way to endure.
Ruby - Hearts that are stolen, are ripe for the taking. Even figuretively. No malice intended. Only an emotional?cerebral? connection - You know, like a Van Morrison kind of "Wavelength."
Out of here
Razor
Name: ubik
msagrans@clark.net
Location: Washington, DC US
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 10:41:44
Comments:
dr mu/roy scam - i agree, i loved the bff show on hard rock. wish i knew why the younger women i date all think bff & the dan are 'too whiney'? what were they raised on- the b52s?
lapage/fez - both y'all in dc? we should hook up @ the hunt for a beer. (i share the same problem as big fan.) i'ld like to swap opinions on the merriweather vs. wolftrap concerts. merri seemed to go down well but wolftrap was.. well, too smooth in some ways.
glad i found this site. i 2 pray for christmas tour.
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch lunch counter
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 10:27:46
Comments:
Count: I'm leaving early Sunday morning and heading down I-35... e-me even if Naked Lunch isn't playing... I'll tell you how to get to our invitational BBQ contest... we're smoking 3 briskets, 1 case of ribs, 2 10 lb. pork roasts, 25 pounds of home-made sausage, & 10 chickens... we ought to have something ready to eat by Sunday evening even though the judging isn't 'til 3:00 p.m. Monday... mdkelly@midusa.net
My fave Pat Metheny album is the Pat Metheny Group white album... indelibly etched in my mind was their performance of the entire album for free in a public park in KCMO in the late 70's... a hometown performance!! Saw them play their entire newest album, Imaginary Day, in the same park this last summer... not free... but awesome just the same. I believe this latest album is a throwback to some of their early years and recommend it for purchase!
The voices are "ahs" emitted by 2 of the multi-instrument (guitars, vibes, horns, keys) musicians that were, at their live performance, on risers rear stage right... they use their voices as instruments much as a keyboardist might use a vintage mellotron or, more recently, sampling techniques.
Name: fezo
magical.mystery.tour
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 09:24:13
Comments:
I thought Carlton was out on the streets when he got stabbed in the neck by a mugger, or maybe it was a home invasion, i don't rightfully remember. Incidentally, a recent show of his in DC got a rave review in the Post
Music throught my ages (slightly edited to delete potentially incriminating likes)
late 70's: Queen, Parliament ("I am Sir Nose Devoid of Funk, I shall not dance"), Commodores (back before Ritchie was full front and center and did all that annoying slow stuff, they used to be almost Parliament-like with their use of whistles and risque themes; "Slippery When Wet" come immediately to mind)
80 -- 84: Steely Dan, Fleetwood Mac, Skynnrd, Marshall Tucker, Eagles, Jackson Browne, Pink Floyd
84 -- 86: The Lost Years, living in West Virginia. 'Nuff Said.
86-90: The Band, The Clash, db's, Del Fuegos, Drivin n' Cryin, Connells, Springsteen90-93: Lost Years, Part 2, living in the Badlands of Northwest Ohio
'94 to Present: John Hiatt, DF solo stuff, Allman Brothers, Beatles, Derek and The Dominos, Cranberries, Marvin Gaye, Miles Davis
Name: Roy.Scam
isn't.that.a.clever.way.of.saying.ignorance.is.bliss?
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 09:13:31
Comments:
Doc Mu: That was a good BFF set on Hard Rock Live; and the group that followed them, Squeeze, was pretty decent too. Those are about the only two pop groups I can think of that can perform a non-boring bass guitar solo (that guy with the bad hair in Squeeze is unique.)
Schwinn et al: Thanks for all the well wishes on our anniversary. Schwinn, I took some of your advice and it was magic; it was days before she was disgusted with me again. I also took your advice about the parental drool cup; I picked up one of those rotary spit bowls second hand from a dentist who replaced it with an intra oral sucking mechanism (There's two devices it would be impossible to name in a dignified manner.)
My Favorites from the Late 90's: Ben Folds Five, Mommyheads, Michael Penn
My Favorites from the previous 15 child raising years: Sesame Street, He Man, Pee Wee's Playhouse
RS
Name: Steve In
Cold and Damp, California
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 09:08:48
Comments:
Herm:
'Pelican West' excellent album....when it first was issued in March '82 Melody Maker even compared it to 'Countdown To Ecstasy'.....'82 was a great year for music....Haircut 100, 'The Nightfly'...Joe Jackson's 'Night and Day'...China Crisis's debut..
oh to be 20 again...with a bag of weed....a case of Guinness (I had 6 brothers to drink/fight with)....re: Larry Carlton shooting.....I think he was shot by an intruder in his home...it's a shame I don't think his playing was the same afterward.....
....and what ever happened to Steve Gadd?????anyone....did he go home to Buffalo???
Name: DrMu
"now I'm big and important"
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 07:08:31
Comments:
Ben Folds Five update: ...was channel surfin' about 11 pm last night to see what I could see...no SportsCenter, Politically Incoherent?...nah, Leno?...nah, his chin is giving me nightmares, Dave?...Is that Paul or Jesse "The Body" Ventura behind the keys with the shaved head?...let's see what kind of fashion crap or drug addict story is on VH1?...wait just a minute, it's Hard Rock Live and the 3 guys from the Tar Heel State: Ben Folds Five. The sounded calm and crisp and strong - a really energetic performance unlike the debacle on SNL some months ago. They really tore right into "One Angry Dwarf..." which really pumped the crowd and then into a moving version of "Brick." Later, total inspired mayhem broke loose on stage with the "Black t-shirt" song. Look for more Chapel Hill lunacy this weekend on HRL with the Squirrel Nut Zippers according to the previews.
DocK: Sorry I can't make it...it's a pretty fer piece (3.5+ hrs) up to Dallas across the savannah for a weekday.
Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, NY Chilly Town
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 06:38:05
Comments:
Edd etc: When Nana Vasconcelos was doing the 'vocals' with Metheny and crew, I enjoyed, and/or tolerated the vocals - it was just another instrumental color to the piece. "The Bat - Part II" from "Offramp" is an excellent use of Vasconcelos' vocal and percussive talents.
But remember, kids, if you say, "Nana Vasconcelos" quickly enough, it may sound like "NoneofUsCanSaythis"!
If you enjoy solo South American percussion, he's the man...Edd, I haven't heard recent Metheny, aka work from the last 8-9 years, so I don't know how annoying it got.
Name: Western Union
Anytown, USA
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 06:34:46
Comments:
The following message was sent from Countzir0:
Tell Rose and Eviva I said "hi." STOP And if Doc Kelly is
going to be in Dallas, have him post his email STOP I'll email
him with details on the Naked Lunch show over the weekend if there is one STOP.Delivered by Western Union, Friday, November 6, 1998, 7:34CST
Name: Edd
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 05:40:12
Comments:
"What's the name of that awesome 'vocal' stuff Pat Metheny's got going on in so many of his songs?"
I call it "annoying", as it was that very effect that turned me off to his more recent stuff. It was interesting the first time, but I felt he over-used it.
If I remember it correctly, it's probably a sample triggered by a pitch to MIDI converter on his guitar.
Name: EvivaLaughs
take.heart.the.weekend's.almost.here
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 05:03:06
Comments:
Clas:
"To travel hopefully is better than to arrive?"
With all due respect, I'll quote you C.S. Lewis' pithy answer to that: "If that were true, and known to be true, there would be nothing to hope for...Thirst was made for water, inquiry for truth."Steve V:
Some of these I found "late" but here goes: ELO, EWF, Donald Fagen THEN the Dan...later Pat Metheny, Al Jarreau, Sade, Anita Baker, Spyro Gyra, Michael Franks, Swing Out Sister, Suzanne Vega etc...Dr Mu, Luckless, Edd, YGK et al:
Cool! Didn't know this was a Metheny-fan GB too! Question for y'all: what's the name of that awesome "vocal" stuff Pat Metheny's got going on in so many of his songs?Ruby:
So what are *your* choices in music? Skillful dodge on the question there...! :)Rose:
Your post makes loads of sense, as usual (oh, you are SUCH a much better person than I am! :) but I'm gonna diverge with your views for perhaps the first time. With all due respect to Oleander, Geena et al, I respectfully submit that I think I have figured out Kinky's secret. He's about giving the REST of us an outlet, a "license to flame."How many times during the day do we respond politely when someone is curt to us or slams us (intended or not), sigh resignedly when someone cuts in front of us in traffic or in the express lane checkout, endure rudeness of every description without giving it back?
And then there's Kinky. I suppose you (Rose) and some others are too nice to feel this, but my brain gives a wicked little snicker whever Kinky flames me. Whom else could those of us who would never, ever be the FIRST to flame anyone feel free to zing with such a crystal clear conscience? After all, Kinky's insults aren't "real" insults, right?--since you can't truly insult someone until you know them. (Which is why Geena and JosieDanFan, those sweeties, can hold their heads high.) We have the opportunity to use our wits to zing The Crabbed One back with what he so richly deserves with impunity, nay, with the *approval* of the GB (most of it, anyway--sorry Rose). What fun!
And what could be more entertaining than a battle of wits with Kinky--you know in advance you're going to win! ;) I for one intend to take advantage of the public service he performs. Like, right now:
Kinky dahling:
:)
You must be using the "royal 'We'". I'm certain no one else on this guestbook needs to get cheap thrills imagining what I may or may not be doing on my honeymoon, you poor, pathetic, lonely little man.
Keep up the sexual harassment and I'll be forced to sing you our VirginsWithAttitude theme song--perhaps you've heard this catchy dance tune on the radio--it goes "Naaaa na na na Can't Touch This" (or is it "nyaa nyaa nyaa nyaa?") Hee hee!
Name: Clas
I can take the Yang without the Gin
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 03:43:10
Comments:
I'm reading an excellent book by Felipe Fernandez-Armesto, "Truth". It beginns with this:
"If God held all truth concealed in his right hand, and in his left hand the persistent striving for the truth... and should say; 'Choose!'. I should humbly bow before his left hand and say, ' Father, give me striving. For pure truth is for thee alone."
Geena, did you get my email? Are you angry with me?
Name: Ase Freeley
@i'm gonna give you a black eye
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 03:34:56
Comments:
All I want to say is, if you've got the 'c's, you could
win spelling bees. Give us a break, tough crowd.
Name: that's funny valentine
@the shute better open
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 02:52:59
Comments:
I think once John finds out KISS is in costume again,
that should just about do it for him.
Name: Michael Valentine Smith
spacecowboy@HAL.com
Date: Friday, November 6, 1998 at 01:53:48
Comments:
Please pass this on to everyone but John Glenn:
When John Glenn returns from space, everybody dress in ape suits.
Name: Doc Kelly
Here at the Dude Ranch browsing room
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 20:55:04
Comments:
Geena: my understanding is that Larry was shot while at home by a burglar...
Dr µ & Count: I'll be in the DFW area Sunday afternoon thru Monday evening or Tuesday morning at a BBQ contest... smoking brisket, ribs, pork roast & chicken... c'mon by. If you're interested then e-me at mdkelly@midusa.net.
Roy's teams that don't have big-name blue-chippers are the one's to watch out for... his system is detracted by the presence of personalities! Jayhawks rule the hardwood!!! it's in their blood.
What's football? Doc
Name: Geena
in situ
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 20:13:51
Comments:
RubyBaby: I think it's a wonderful idea, however, due to my vertical impairment, I fear a floppy sun hat would be a fashion faux pas, but as a compromise, I could find one with a smaller brim, and this way I won't look like just a walking hat. Love the Squirrel Nut Snippers!
Rose Darling; Did you get my email?
Oleander: I'll be there girl! The only things that would stop me from going are, my relatives visiting from Australia, my best friend visiting from Phoenix, an upcoming convention (hope it's there) or a call from the Kremlin, otherwise, Emeril, I'm on my way my Fall River sweetie!
Kinkys Mind: I know what you mean about some weeds not being so bad, and some even have those good looking buds on them. I have tried and I like! I would love to see Maynard Ferguson, but I have another event that night, the good thing is both events are within 4 miles of each other, maybe I could do both. Funny story by the way.
Steve V. O'Dan: I've always listened to Steely Dan, but at the end of the 70's/early 80's I was quickly sliding out of the disco scene and started listening to Early U2 (before Bono went gold lame), Bruce Springsteen (when he was still a Jersey kid) , B52's, Mission of Burma, Kraftwerk, Elvis Costello, Prince (his first 2 albums were better than the rest), Talking Heads, Police, Bootsy Collins, Joe Jackson (he's the man!), The Fall, Madonna, Blondie, Brothers Johnson, Jim Carroll, Stray Cats, Cheap Trick, Heart, Patty Smith, and Van Halen (they were great with David Lee). I sequed into the mid 80's with Roxy Music, Eurythmics, Tears For Fears, The Pretenders, Cyndi Lauper, Pet Shop Boys, Stevie Winwood, Bonnie Raitt, Simple Minds, Go-Go's, Bangles, Bon Jovi, Duran Duran, Public Image, The Clash, Donald Fagen, The Ramones, Sex Pistols, Nina Hagen and X. The late 80's, early 90's brought me to Sinead O'Connor, Clannad, The Pogues, Hothouse Flowers, The Cure, Jane's Addiction, NY Rock & Soul, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Chili Peppers, The Smiths, Til Tuesday, Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam, The Rippingtons, Earl Klugh, Larry Carlton, REM, Anita Baker, Sade, Al Jarreau, Spyro Gyra, kd Lang, Walter Becker, Bony James, Walter Beasley, Presently, I'm still listening to all of the above with a strong emphasis on Pearl Jam, Frank Zappa, Ben Folds Five, PJ Harvey, Erikah Badu, Alanis Morrisette, Cheryl Crowe, Barenaked Ladies, and Liz Phair with a lot of Steely Dan thrown in.
My taste in music is just as diverse as everyone else here, maybe that's why we all seem to congregate toward one another.
BTW…why was Larry Carlton shot?
Name: DrMu
scoping out the dial for some trend
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 19:46:00
Comments:
SteveV/Soc: Hmmm, could be WPRD: Pirate, Radio/Radar, Dan for jazz and conversation. I'll be there for the midnight shift.
Name: !!!!!!!!!!!!!LESTER THE NIGHTFLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
danfan@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 18:58:45
Comments:
I'm in the freakin chat room every freakin night around 11 where the hell r u guys. Not tonight however but i'm usually in there!
thats 11 pm est. its mostly east coasters chating for an hour before beddy bye!My musical taste r far different then most people on here!
I'm into Hard rock/metal call it what u will it makes me move.
I'm talkin Metallica, Pantera, Anthrax, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, all of Seattle for that matter.
I do love Sting/police which is the closest my generation has to our boys! All of Disco, Southern Rock especially Petty, and very little rap(VERY LITTLE) LL COOL J.Basically any song about young chicks and drugs I'll listen too!
thats y I hate country, plus hardly any of the artist write their own shit ya know!Peace out homies
Name: Rose Darling
@Soapbox.Central.USA
Location: Perseverance,, Reality, The World
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 18:11:13
Comments:
oleander:
I did not set out to particularly diss you. But see what I mean? Ugliness begets more ugliness, and before you know it, I'm dissing people because reading continuous dissings and snotty assed remarks pisses me off (not to mention wastes my time) BUT THEN those "is-it-humor-or-is-it-just-nasty?" posts are defended like they are some kind of intellectually stimulating art form. I beg to differ, quite vehemently for some to bear. Certainly ying and yang together is a given in life. My choice in "facing" the world is to try to encourage people to create beauty, not ugliness. My choice is to not be a promoter of negativity. That's not running from reality or condemning it at all. That's working with it, and having guts to persevere in the face of lameness, excuses, and built-in human weaknesses. However, IMHO the ignominious is neither defended or condoned merely by demonstrating how ubiquitous it is.
P.S. Everyday we wake up, we must face and accept the world as it is. I wouldn't be here if I didn't. Those who strive for ideals and have courage persevere, cling to hope and create actions that might improve difficulties and alleviate pain. That doesn't make one any less accepting or any less realistic (just less paralyzed by pessimism and cynicism.)Kinky:
I am hanging loose
Without a noose
And I'm cooking your goose
`Cuz you're missing a few screws !
Steve V.
Most of what I've already seen on the previous posts reflects what I was listening to, so here is only a sample of my tastes not already mentioned by someone else. In the 70's I listened to everything rock/pop/folk, including Average White Band, Steve Miller, Edgar Winter, Chicago. In the 80's I was into all the pop/romantic stuff, Manhattan Transfer, Split Enz, the Police, Little River Band, Rainbow. In the 90's I discovered Bonnie Raitt, En Vogue, Moody Blues, and not a whole lot else comes to mind. I don't like rap and have never much liked pure soul or blues. I tend to like acts who hybridize musical forms.
I've listened to the Dan since I was a kid. I'm lucky that the local classic rock station plays the Dan here daily, with any Dan tunes played during request shows.Big Fan: Happy Birthday !
Name: Mitch
Chat Room chat
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 17:25:04
Comments:
You have to have Java to get into the room. The time slot is West Coast and most GBers are East Coast. I don`t have Java so i guess i can`t enter.
Name: Sociable Hermit
Curious
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 17:00:25
Comments:
Just curious, but how come it seems that no one ever uses the chat room? I have gone in there many times, both scheduled and not, and never had the pleasure of meeting anyone.
Hey, Dan'ers! Let's start talking!
(Sorry, I always get boisterous in the throes of an election)Later,
Herm
Name: Midnite Cruiser
midnitecruiser@hotmail.com
Location: Danville, VA
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 13:37:56
Comments:
back from a week in DC and West Virginia and getting back into the routine here....11 days worth of posts to catch up on.
just happened to read "Reelin' In The Years" while I was off and I enjoyed it despite what kinky has to say....I get the feeling DF is pretty much the same guy but that WB really reconstructed his whole life after the break-up and the OD death of his girlfriend....I'd be curious to know more about the private hell and the drugs that he lived through.....call it morbid curiousity if you like but there's more to the story than what's been reported. Not that it's anyone's business but most of us have a little Springer in the dark recesses if we admit it or not.
also broke out the Citizen box set for the road trip and it was nice to get reaquainted with some of the tunes I hadn't heard in years.
be seein' y'all
Name: Sociable Hermit
LookingThinkingQuicklyForgetting.com
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 11:27:44
Comments:
A pirate radio station sounds excellent! I call the eye patch!
We can make records we don't care for walk the plank!
Could there be debauchery? I haven't debauched in ages.
Let me know which pier to be at and when.
Herm
P.S. I forgot to mention Haircut 100! Shame on me! "Pelican West" is one of my all time favorites albums! (I'm going to leave and take my exclamation points with me!)
Herm, again!
Name: Luckless Pedestrian
no.static.at.all
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 11:00:33
Comments:
Let's see now....
It goes without saying that SD dominated all periods (as they do to this day).
Late 70s: ELO, Sadao Watanabe, Grover Washington Jr., Devo & similar computer/synth bands
Early-Mid 80s: Fagen, Bach, Steeleye Span, Jethro Tull, Renaissance (the band), renaissance (the era) and medieval, some Swing, Pat Metheny, Jon Anderson
Mid-Late 80s: Clannad, Sting, James Taylor, Travelling Wilburys, Paul Simon, Billy Joel
90s: 10K Maniacs, Peter Gabriel, Loreena McKennitt, Alanis Morisette
As you can see, its a diverse group. I generally prefer textured, complex pieces. Still, no one comes close to our boys.
Name: Steve Vin
dazed@the dude ranch
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 10:34:56
Comments:
Dr. Mu and Hermit:
Jeez and I thought I had good taste.....maybe we should get together and start a pirate radio station.......
one of the FM stations out here (107 FM)...still plays shit from Journey...and Kansas......and if they play Steely Dan it is ussually the same overplayed tracks (i.e. 'Reeling' etc.)....when was the last time a great song like 'Your Gold Teeth II' graced the airwaves????..
coming soon Radio Steely Dan.......all 'Dan all the time...with guest dj's like Jerome Aniton......
Name: YGK
..
Location: NYC,
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 10:16:20
Comments:
The whole collab with Haden didn't do it for me...
Name: Edd
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 09:39:28
Comments:
Yeah, "American Garage" is good, although I lean more toward "Pat Metheny Group" (white cover).
I stopped following him around "Still Life Talking." Didn't like that one at all...
Name: Zeke
a midnight toker
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 08:21:41
Comments:
Doc: Ameican Garage. Excellent choice. That one is one of my favorites. I had a chance to see him play on that tour. The drummer is pretty awesome too.
On another note, about the New Orleans Dan Fess, I have a few contacts in the hotel biz. Rooms in the quarter or rooms in the burbs? Rates for the quarter, $100 to $150 per night, others
$70 to $100.
Emeril say's BAM! I must say, NOLA's is pretty good.
Name: Joe M
JGMurtha@aol.com
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 08:18:16
Comments:
And also the PMG live sets "Travels" circa '82 and "The Road To You" circa '93 and "80/81" and "AWFSFWF" and... I could go on ad nauseum.
Speaking of PM, the new Gary Burton release "Like Minds" is out finally and features PM, Corea, Dave Holland, Roy Haynes. Jeezuz... Even the Dan themselves would be hard pressed to mobilize a lineup of this magnitude.
If you're at all familiar with Burtons "Reunion" CD with PM, this new one is similar in scope. (3) Corea tunes, (2) Burton tunes and (4) PM tunes ("Question and Answer" being one of 'em).
Name: YGK
..
Location: NYC,
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 07:48:30
Comments:
I stil think that "Offramp" and "The Pat Metheny Group" (white album cover) are the best Mays/Metheny work.
ygk
Name: DrMu
kitchen clean
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 07:18:32
Comments:
Edd: Are you a fan of "American Garage?" That one really shimmers and shines for me - my favorite by far of his stuff.
Name: Edd
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 06:10:37
Comments:
Those of you with a taste for jazz guitar soloists (Pat Metheny's early work comes to mind) may want to check out Julian Coryell's CD "Duality". (He's Larry Coryell's son.)
He does a very interesting cover of "Deacon Blues"...
Name: Big Fan
here@thewesternworld.com
Location: Anywhere, CT USA
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 05:26:40
Comments:
Well, today is the day - the Big Four Oh. You did not miss it Lisa, thanks.
Took yesterday off. Went pheasant hunting with my two Brittanies, went to my three year olds gymnastic class, and put a CD player in our new old car. Stayed off the net and watched the new ST Voyager and Law & Order. Talk about a boring day, but the weather in New England has been perfect this fall. Cool, crisp and dry. First CD I played was Walter’s 11 Tracks of Whack. My English is more better mon, but my hat is still too flat….. That last song about kids getting in trouble at school, etc. - boy I can relate with our 8 year old. The boys still know how to reach out to the real world.
Somebody mentioned either here or on the mail list about a new compilation "From AM to FM" Any word on it? Also checking our amazon.com, I see they are listing the new remastered albums for about $12. Don’t think these will be gold coated for that price - wonder if there will be anything new on them.
Astronauts autographs. While I have met about 30 or so astronauts over the last 20 years, and have most of their autographs, most of these have been Mission Specialists and some commanders and pilots. A decade ago we would get 10 a year to visit. Now the visits are infrequent, since the invention of the conference call and the increase in air fares. I’ve met all of the Hubble repair crew, but no Payload Specialists. Payloads Specialists are one time members of a crew for a specific scientific project on that flight. That is what John Glenn is on this flight. Check out this page if you want an astronaut visit to your school: http://www.nasa.gov/events/procedure.html After spending 14 of the last twenty years working on the Extravehicular Mobility Unit (EMU or spacesuit) I’m now working on the Water Processor for Space Station. Making "dirty" water clean. Sort of a high tech cosmic septic system - no not really. We make the toilets here, too. I finally get a cubicle back on 11/16, just like the ones in Dilbert. I used to have a cubicle, but changes in seating plans caused my labor grade to loose their cubicles for a desk and table with overhead. Then we got shrunk again to a workstation and only one filing cabinet. Now I get two filing cabinets again and a speaker phone whoa , happy days are here again!
Name: Clas
keep on runnin'
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 01:26:40
Comments:
What I mean is: I like what you wrote.
I don't like to run.
Name: Schwinn
larsbush
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 01:25:11
Comments:
...reminds me of something I gleaned from John Gardner's "Freddy's Book"--a work by the author I consider the greatest of this or any other century.
Don't the Moon Look Pretty?
SEMB
Name: Clas
@ work
Date: Thursday, November 5, 1998 at 00:45:01
Comments:
Nerium Ole:
" ...the idea is to accept them both and then choose how you will face the world. Otherwise you're always running."
I like that.
Name: enoch
@SD on the KLH...i mean JVC
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 16:14:39
Comments:
Schmeck's Gut to everyone! Just found this site last nite
after hearing 4 SD songs on the radio yesterday. I love
this band! I must tell you though, does anyone know what
Walt and Donald are doing these days? Late last night I
went to bed about 4 am, working the late shift now, and
I started to laugh, uncontrollably, and I don't know why.
My wife who was sleeping at the time was a bit mad for
waking her up. She says if it happens again, I get to
sleep on the easy chair. Thanks Again, Enoch.
Name: Mayor Rudy
terrible turnout
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 16:00:00
Comments:
The low turnout in yesterday`s election can be attributed to voter apathy, but i think the electorate was let down by Clinton`s ridiculous behavior and a overzealous Republican Congress and so the voters sat this one out. Farewell to my Pisan Sen. Al D`Matto. You were a clever Politician and many New Yorkers will miss you. I`m sure you`ll miss the AIPAC (American- Israeli Public Affairs Committee) money. So long pal. A professioal Wresler elected Governor in Minny, what was on the voters mind there?
Name: DrMu
memories
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 14:32:04
Comments:
SV: mid-late 70's: Steely Dan, The Who, Elvis Costello, Talking Heads, The Police, Doobies, Boz Scaggs, 70s Soul/funk (Funkadelic/Parliament, Ohio Players, etc.), Earth, Wind, and Fire (they call 'em The Elements back home)
early-mid 80s: Donald Fagen, Little Feat, Linda Ronstadt, Neville Bros., Peter Gabriel, REM, U2, Talk Talk, Branford Marsalis, Sting, Miles Davis, Rikki Lee Jones, Anita Baker, Joe Jackson, 70s Stevie Wonder
late 80's-mid 90s: NYR&SR. Donald Fagen, 11TOW, Miles, Stan Kenton, a little Monk, some Benny Goodman (believe it or not), Crowded House, China Crisis, Prefab Sprout/Danny Wilson - Dan clones
Name: Sociable Hermit
AhhJustOneMoreThing@TheColumboInstitute
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 13:14:56
Comments:
Hi,
Me again. Forgot 2 quick things.1. Early to mid 80's, I was also heavily into the Smiths.
2. At the same time, I was a DJ for a yuppies singles club (yuck! spit!), in Chicago. So, as a consequence, I heard a ton of Madonna, Michael Jackson, Bruce Springsteen, Billy Ocean, and whatever else was fadish at the time. (I secretly still like Madonna's music from the 80's. Shhh, don't tell anyone.)
One favorite memory of there was a very empty night due to poor weather, I just sat at the bar drinking Bailey's and coffee, while playing entire Todd Rundgren albums. The few customers that were there complimented me on my taste and choice.That's All,
Herm
Name: Sociable Hermit
Staring@MyMusicalLibrary
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 13:06:53
Comments:
Steve V,
Great idea, indeed! Only, my tastes have covered so much ground over the years, I have amassed quite a collection. I will, though, attempt to give you as best a peek as I can into those portions of my brain.Mid-late 70's (why not start there?): Steely Dan, Todd Rundgren + Utopia, Elvis Costello, The Clash, Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, Cars, Van Halen, Jean Luc-Ponty, X, Steve Winwood, AC/DC, UFO, The Knack, etc.
Early - mid 80's: (All of the above), The Police + Sting, 20/20, Dylan, Roxy Music, The Cure, The Specials, The Go-Go's, The Bangles, Frank Sinatra, REM, Tom Petty, etc.
Late 80's - early 90's: (Most all of the above): The Pursuit Of Happiness (great band!), Bob Mould, Jesus and Mary Chain, Dean Martin, Charlie Parker, Benny Goodman, Jonh Coltrane, Voice Of The Beehive, Lemonheads, Grateful Dead, etc.
Mid 90's - present: (Most all of above): Completely immersed in jazz, blues, all of my old albums and CD's, from Doris Day to Frank Zappa. It's taken me this long in life to stop worrying what niche I fit into, and just revel in the fact that my taste are very eclectic and that I shouldn't worry about whether people think it's uncool if I listen to Sammy Davis Jr. If it has a groove, I probably dig it. My parties are fun, except for those who are still mired in REO and Journey and refuse to expand.
I love my records. Thank you for making me think of them again. Just what I needed today.
Later,
Herm
Name: MrLaPage
oh yeah
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 12:45:33
Comments:
I almost forgot the one ridiculous habit I developed that never really went away, Sadao Watanabe.
Name: MrLaPage
@reminiscence
Location: Where 55-45 means more than speed max and min, D.C.
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 12:43:45
Comments:
SteveV: World Party. Good choice. It's right near my Wall of Voodoo album, which was great . . . at the time, and sometimes -- even these days -- it's pretty damn good. I would add to the mid 80s Fine Young Cannibals' first release from 1986. When I listen to it these days, I think Brian Setzer should go back to Rockabilly. I mean, isn't just about every half-assed swing group just a warmed over General Public with a couple trombones? In the mid/late 80s I got on this Smiths kick. In fact, I still love the Smiths. Lloyd Cole and the Commotions put out some great stuff, and his solo material has been even better.
oleander: Thanks to you and the other great Americans in NC for getting Lauch back to the farm and out of my backyard.
Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, NY
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 12:18:10
Comments:
Hey Steve V: I heavily absorbed and promoted ECM artists of the early 80's ( I was a Radio Jock in upstate New York then - of course that brought us Metheny, but also Terje Rypdal, Steve Tibbetts, Jan Garbarek, further explorations by Mr. Jarrett, Steve Reich, etc.
On the pop front, I went with Gary Numan - for the music, not the lifestyle....
John Martyn, Jean Luc Ponty (in the beginning) and Larry Carlton (before the fall)ygk
Name: Steve v
@Politically incorrect
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 10:50:10
Comments:
Hey Ruby: I am actually a/non political.....
although I voted for Jerry Brown in '92 and Nader in '96...I don't have much use for politicians.......blah blah blah.....have Gray Day-is.......
c.1998 Bill Maher
morning menu_giant cappucino- scone + Jazz 91 fm.....+ GB.....
Name: Steve o'
down @the bottom
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 10:33:15
Comments:
Hey Kinky great 'Dallas' story..
....but I didn't read that in the Sweet bio...
..I always wondered if the guy who hawked the 'Gaucho' bootlegs was the same engineer who erase..'The Second Arrangement'...
thought of the day:::;are Fagen/Becker Jerry Brown Democrats or Charles Schumer democrats??!!
Name: RubyBaby
get me out of here
Location: android warehouse,
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 10:26:38
Comments:
SteveV: You want us to spill our guts by sharing our musical taste in chronological order, eh? Are we to draw our own conclusions, or will there be an official analysis? Yours was quite interesting, btw. You seem to have been searching in the early 80s, mellowed out in the mid 80s, you intensified again in the late 80s, expanded in the early 90s, andd now I don't know what you're doing. But it's very cool...I suppose you're happy about the gray dayness. I like a good liberal coating of gray about as much as I like a good liberal coating of bird crap.
rb
Name: Steve V. O'Dan
stevev@jps.net
Location: foggy Liberal, Berkeley
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 08:58:53
Comments:
Hey Danfanz:
brilliant idea that may give ourselves more of an idea about who us dan freaks are all about:
upon Steely Dan's demise in '81 what groups/type of music filled your huge listening void:
to me the end of Steely Dan marked the end of fusion type music (i.e. Weather Report, Stanley Clarke etc..)..
being a young hip dj (in Manhattan) in '82 I was heavily into imports (i.e China Crisis, Duran Duran, Haircut 100) and other foreign pop that I would hear on shortwave....
mid-80's: David Sylvian....The Stranglers....Jean-Michel Jarre
...Sade....Style Council
late '80's:World Party....Peter Gabriel....U2....Sting...early '90's:Paul Weller....Fagen(of course)...REM....Nick Heyward
today:cool jazz (i.e.Blue Note)....Tijuana Brass....early 'Dan...Claude Debussy....Beatles.....
just some food for thought on a gray day in CA......
Name: Clean Willy
ClnWilly@aol.com
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 08:51:26
Comments:
Well now,
I seem to have hit a nerve... Careful now my puerile progeny, you really don't wanna fuck with me. And why dost thou protest so? After all, ALL of your posts are about YOU.
Oh, and you really should've considered being on time for that meeting my friend. I mean damn, that last crudely constructed and utterly verbose verbage of yours? Absolutely pitiful Krank. Even for you.
To be finished at a later time...
CW
Name: Dr. Mu
me and Andy by the creek
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 07:36:24
Comments:
Kinky: Damn, that would explain "why their songs are so easy to play."
Name: Jesse "The Body" Ventura
@the Western World
Location: St. Augusine (formerly St. Paul), Minehaha
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 07:29:35
Comments:
Geetings Danites from the first Minnesota governor with a shaved head!
I'm inviting one and all to the new home of liberty: The Land of a Thousand (Frozen) Lakes where prostitution, drugs, and weekend mayhem, especially inside the "squared circle" are now welcome. All tax venenues are going back to the people except those needed for education, doming the freakin' state, and Danfests. Has anybody seen Ox Baker? He owes me a bottle of dianabol.
Name: Mia Miarrow
pilgrimforyourlove
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 01:33:43
Comments:
Edd
Are you going to stand for this? Can't somebody do something for God's sake?
Name: Heart Like a Wheel
nothingliketheschwinn
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 00:56:08
Comments:
Midnight Cruiser: Happy Birthday!
Dr. Mu: Those 22 - 7 gnats have sworn off the fruit flies this year and are prime for a little pay-back. Besides, Roy has always looked way too much like Tim Conway for me to take him seriously.
ELECTION UPDATE: Hindered by a last minute write-in campaign, Schwinn none-the-less logged 112 votes for Texas Governor and celebrated in fine fashion at the Dart Bowling Alley. Music was provided by the Lucky Strikes and there was plenty of fun to spare as the Biker rented every pair of shoes, yet refused to wear any of them as he topped his previous high of 232. All shoe rental proceeds went to the Austin Hospice and the Big Guy thrilled his tiny contingency by promising to actually campaign "next go around".
Neville in My Life,LR
Name: Kinkys Mind
@thecenterofhisheadithink.com
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 00:30:27
Comments:
Kinky you need a life, MAN
Name: Kinky
mad as a MARCH hare, but I'll be happy
Location: come June 8th! , :-P
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1998 at 00:12:53
Comments:
Before I begin my Oleanderish greetings, let me just say... I'm running late for a meeting so I'll make this short and finish it at a later time.
Rose Darling - That's fine that you prefer the yang without the yin, but maybe you oughtta move up to a bigger yang. You know, to loosen you up a little.
IMHO - I couldn't have said it better.
Clean W - For someone who wants to be a member of WGRAKS, you sure make an awful lot of posts (that is, every fuckin' one of them) about me.
Geena - I think I'd rather remain a weed. You know there are some out there that aren't so bad. You should try us sometime. By the way, go see Maynard Ferguson, you won't regret it.
Eviva - Really now, lady, just how seriously do you think I'd take El Groomo's opinion? After all, he's marrying you. And remember Eviva... on your honeymoon, just keep your head low, lady. We love it!
Larry - No need to apologize about Sweet's book. It did suck. Just because Donald Fagen's mother gave him some childhood photos doesn't mean it was a good read.
Bill Nye the Wise Guy - Next time you want to dress up like me for Halloween, go right ahead. Just be careful of them apples.
*WARNING*
The remainder of this post contains confidential information and is meant for DrMu's eyes only.
The rest of you kindly scroll pastDrMu - There have been numerous stories floating around about why the release of Gaucho was delayed and what exactly happened. The most popular seems to be that their then current label, MCA (The Record Company Formerly Known as ABC-Dunhill), owed them some royalty payments or something, and Donald and Walter wanted to release the album on Warner Bros. As you know, MCA eventually won this battle. But wait... that's just the beginning. Here's the scoop I got... You see, after the recording was finally done, and they had a few days to spare during the whole MCA/ABC/Warner Bros debacle, Donald and Walter decided to head on down to Dallas. Now, *I* think that maybe they had a premonition that Gaucho was going to be their last album for 19 years, and they chose Dallas as kind of a nostalgia trip, considering that the name of their first single was "Dallas". But, anyway, for whatever reason, they went to Dallas.
After visiting the mandatory tourist spots (the book depository, the grassy knoll, and the book depository), they decided to grab a beer, chow down with the cowboys, and check out the local music scene. Well, they finally found a place where the music wasn't drowned out by the mechanical bull (the one at this joint was out of order), and they got a table. They figured it couldn't be too bad because the band that was scheduled to play was called "Naked Lunch", coincidentally, the same William Burroughs novel that they had taken their name from so many years before. Well, anyway, the band finally took the stage and began playing, of all things, "Do It Again"! Donald and Walter immediately looked at each other. "Let's get the f#*% outta here!" Donald cried. "Yeah, but let's check out a couple of tunes, they don't sound so bad. Besides, we still haven't gotten the check yet, and they can't see us back here in the corner" Walter responded.
The band played a few more Steely Dan tunes (My Old School, Reelin', Peg, etc.). "You're right, they're amazing", Donald said. "Yeah", replied Walter, "those girls aren't much to look at, but, man, can they sing!" So, Donald and Walter were really getting into it. These guys were really nailing the shit, they sounded even better than the albums, and hearing it gave Donald and Walter hope that their upcoming Gaucho release would still have an audience even though it had been 3 years since Aja.
Well, the band leader began introducing the next tune (as he had previously done before each and every song), but this time, he introduced it as a tune that had not been released. "What are they gonna play? Mobile Home?" asked Donald. "Yeah, I guess that son of a bitch, Dinky, finally made good on those threats to release all that live shit," said Walter. Well, the house went quiet, the lights went down, and suddenly a guitar comes screaming out of the speakers. The sound was so familiar, like they'd been hearing it constantly for the last nine months. Then the rest of the band kicked in with a killer rhythm section. "Holy f#*% it's Hey 19!" cried Donald. "How in the hell did they get a hold of this?!" After the song was over, the band leader thanked the crowd for it's applause: "Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. That was an original tune of ours, but we figure it's so Steely Dan-ish, it works in this set." "What?!" Cried Walter. "Not only does he have one of our tunes that hasn't even been released, but now he's claiming that it's HIS?!" "Yeah, but the worst part is, they play it better than what we spent the last two years recording!" exclaimed Donald.
The band leader continued: "We actually wrote that tune, and a few others we're mighty proud of, with the help of our regular bass player who couldn't be with us tonight, Chuck Rainey. If you remember, Ol' Chuck played on a number of Steely Dan tunes, he also co-wrote some of Steely Dan's songs, although he claims, in his words, 'those snowflake sons-a-bitches never give me no due!' Anyway, we've been playing our originals, that one was called 'Hey 19', at Club Da Da for the past six years, and you Steely Dan fans seem to really dig 'em, thanks. Here's another tune of ours, it's called Babylon Sisters..."
Well, as you can imagine, Donald and Walter were furious. They cut short their vacation, and flew back to New York. After a long and grueling investigation, which, again pushed back the release of Gaucho, they discovered that this band in Texas HAD been playing Hey 19, Babylon Sisters, Gaucho, and Third World Man long before Donald and Walter ever even thought of writing them. Not to mention the fact that their live versions were amazing, better than anything Donald and Walter had gotten from the session cats they employed! Well, since Chuck Rainey had worked with Steely Dan before, they decided to give him a call to explain the situation. Needless to say, Chuck knew from past experiences how futile it was to get any songwriting credit from the duo. And with a record company behind Steely Dan, he realized he was in a no-win situation. I mean, the thought of RealAudio broadcasts weren't even envisioned by the likes of EddCote at the time. And they'd never recorded their performances or copyrighted their songs. So with no proof that they wrote them first, they knew Steely Dan would eventually win the rights. But Chuck put on his ten-gallon hat and told Donald & Walter he wasn't going to give up that easily. He and Naked Lunch demanded compensation (which included performer credit on Gaucho for Chuck) or they would go public. After all, they'd been playing these tunes for six years and weren't even close to getting them released on their own, so a little cash would be better than nothing. Donald and Walter couldn't risk it, and ended up paying Chuck and Naked Lunch $105,000 (which, in that day, was four times the industry standard).
With that taken care of, the release date was set again. But Donald and Walter couldn't help but remember how much better the Naked Lunch played this stuff. I mean, they could never tell anyone, never admit it... but being the perfectionists they are, it ate at them that someone had done a better job with these songs. The Naked Lunch band not only played Steely Dan BETTER than Steely Dan, THEY WERE SO FUCKING GOOD THEY PLAYED THE SONGS BEFORE THEY WERE EVEN WRITTEN! So, that was it. Donald and Walter called up their manager and MCA and told them they did not want Gaucho released, it was clearly an inferior product. Naturally, MCA went nuts. They had spent so much time and money on this project, they were not about to throw it away. Well, this new complication caused another delay and the release date was pushed back, yet, again.
It wouldn't last long though, Donald and Walter knew that people would demand to know why they were going to can an album that was already completed and ready for release. And that was clearly information that they could never allow out. Left with no other choice, they eventually gave in. Gaucho was finally released in November 1980, to critical acclaim. But the experience was enough for Donald and Walter to end their partnership, and a year later Steely Dan was no more. Chuck Rainey has since shunned the rest of the music industry and still resides in Dallas, playing exclusively with the Naked Lunch every Thursday night at Club Da Da.
Name: lisa
oh ye@h
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 22:32:05
Comments:
happy birthday bigFan! did i miss it?
Name: lisa
the soul of wit is to know one's pl@ce
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 22:24:45
Comments:
i just saw a film (for the second time) that i'm convinced my fellow guestbookers will enjoy..."ridicule" takes place in france during the 18th century and tells the story of an engineer that seeks an audience with louis XVI...he needs funds to drain the nearby swamps, which are causing disease and death among his servants...in order to be accepted into the court, the man must prove his worth by demonstrating his wit among the nobles.
i think the parallels between the gb and this praxis will be glaringly apparent...who knows? maybe we are pursuing the modern version of it when we sign on.
anyway, its damn good (one of my favorites)...it was nominated for an oscar for best foreign language film...it won a french academy award for best film and director (patrice leconte).
Name: oleander
night of the living elected ie dead
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 19:56:29
Comments:
Well, amazingly enough, we're doing pretty well here in North Carolina. The Big Hog Farmer has been pushed face-first into the sty, and it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
MDF--WOW! I think I might autocombust if I saw those four in the same place at the same time. You lucky dog.
stevev--way to go! Glad you're back, by the way.
Rose--Well, I feel dissed. I don't think I fit into the pantheon of "fashionably cynical and pessimistic." You can't have the yang without the yin. Nor appreciate the light without the darkness. IMHO, the idea is to accept them both and then choose how you will face the world. Otherwise you're always running.
Geena--right on, girlfriend. Next year in Nawlins! Zeke, get ready!
Big Fan--I think I'd much rather ride around on the back of your Harley through the country than be in a lot of big cities I could name. Sounds pretty exciting to me!
Michael--very cool words on TTHOA.
Friquen--Dance team! I love it! Ruby & I can design the costumes--floppy hat... green earrings... two-tone shoes... Spectacular with the pom-poms....
Kinky with the face--You should be embarrassed. C'mere & let me wipe your mouth. That was a not-half-bad Kinky parody, though it didn't make a lot of sense.
OK, Rose, you're right, it's hard not to respond.
Herm--Hon, you need some polarfleece. They even make unmentionables out of it. Didn't you ever read "The Little Fur Family"?
Name: Sociable Hermit
InaDaze@AnOddLittlePlace
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 18:06:07
Comments:
Hey All,
I was sitting in my cave, trying to bundle up from the quick onslaught of cold air, (ever notice that the first rush of cold seems the worst? I believe that's it's all a matter of getting used to. It's probably only upper thirties-low forties, and I'm freezing! Yet, I know two months from now, I'll be used to temperatures in the tens and wishing for low forties!). Anyway, here I was, in front of my computer, reading about Larry Carlton while ironically at the same time listening to Wes Montgomery. I was all prepared to toss in my two cents about Mr. Carlton, but thinking my fingers would never defrost long enough for me to peck out a though, then I read the sentence in Rose Darlings post, saying that her unmentionables were flammable, and suddenly, I was overcome with a great warmth, and completely lost track of what I wanted to say about Larry.
I think I should get out more.
Sorry, Rose. Hope this doesn't scare you away from the woods.
Later,
Herm
Name: DrMu
The South shall rise again?
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 15:36:54
Comments:
SEMB: Sutton will have his group of gnats playing tenacious defense, but I don't see the Jayhawks being bothered until March Madness as usual. Roy Williams still has to get that sync-lock with that '82 championship channel when he was assistant at UNC where it was the Jordan jump shot that won it, not Brown's errant pass to Worthy that lost it.
Sid/Edd: Yeah, I was pulling for Larry Carlton when I sampled the latest Fourplay at a local music store a couple of weeks ago. The tunes and production were zzzzz city. I did like his sound, a little richer than I've heard in some time, but the chops weren't there. Some extended time at the Walter Becker Hawaiian Guitar Rehab Clinic is recommended.
Name: Mitch
mt.Belzoni
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 15:20:53
Comments:
Hopsing: The best single by King Crimson is 21st century sczoid man. Larry Carlton might not be the same since the shooting, but his place in music history is secure.
Name: Rose Darling
@standing on the precipice, gazing into the abyss, lured into the malevolent maelstrom
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 14:47:04
Comments:
Scroll Through Unless You Give a Crap:
For the record, I am not and will not be in any coalition against Kinky or anyone. I didn't start the big discussion about Kinky, but I threw my two cents in (okay, maybe a quarter.) I do get fed up reading attacks against people, that's all. Which seems to always inevitably lure the accused/harassed into reciprocal posts of defending themselves and hurling retaliatory insults. Which is all pretty repetitive, predicatable and pointless. If I thrived on that, I'd watch the Jerry Springer show instead of read posts here. And I'm not going to defend or apologize for that viewpoint anymore.
Besides, it's all freaking irrelevant what I think isn't it? Because it's not going to stop what anyone posts here. And I am a big defender of the flow of free topics so why should it, dig?Go ahead flamers, I'm NOT wearing the asbestos thermasuit !
My unmentionables are flammable !!!
And someone stole my decoder ring !!!
I'm completely vulnerable (har har yeah you wish !!!)(Whew... that was better than psychotherapy... and cheaper too.)
Name: Sid Charlemagne
lets all get along now
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 14:03:31
Comments:
MDF, That's pretty funny, because everytime I went to see Carlton he said: "You might recognize this song, it was borrowed from my favorite band, Steely Dan." But this was before he was shot (thanks Ed), maybe that changed him. I guess he won't be playing on the new album then. But since when do those guys need an excuse not to hire someone?
They should let Larry play on the new album but on the credits list Wayne Krantz. That would get him back (wouldn't hurt us fans either).
Name: TheStranger
tied to the mast
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 13:39:00
Comments:
geena,
yes i was thinking of don rickles. but unfortunately my cerebral tissues are floating in electric acid from another life so i couldn't think of his name. kinky is our updated rickles.right now i am actually busy doing stuff and so can't do much on the gb. when i get through this week you'll all get what's coming to you.
Name: Edd
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 12:11:28
Comments:
"...then he had an accident or something and he has never been the same."
He was shot.
Name: Manhattan Dan Fan
fine line
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 12:00:50
Comments:
Sid C: I would have thought it was tribute and not a ripoff too, except he has been heard to introduce the song saying: "You may recognize this riff that Steely Dan stole from me". I'm certain he intends this to be a tounge-in-cheek joke, but there are probably more than a few people in these audiences who don't know any better and think it's the truth (and if he doesn't know that, he probably should).
Name: Sid Charlemagne
get along
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 11:26:48
Comments:
From 1976-1986 Carlton was great!! Some of the best live playing I have ever seen. Then he had an accident or something and he has never been the same.
MDF, The "Peg" song was more of a tribute than a ripoff, heck give the guy a break.
He's still ALOT better than that Wayne Krantz guy!!
Name: wesley sniper
@havoc your own way!
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 11:07:38
Comments:
AHH HAA, i knew i'd find you guys somewhere. You didn't
think i'd forget about babylon sisters did you? when
you decide to come around again i'll be waitin' for you.
i think i'll just go to the drive-thru and pick up some
ammo. i don't think they'll check me at the ticket gate
for a 20 pack. just when you start to play that song, i'll
load up my slingshot with a mcnugget and let you have it!
and if i miss, hey i'll have 19 more. just let me know
what kind of sauce you want on them..or on second thought..
those sauce packs should fly too..i'll just surprize you.
WS out.
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 10:18:27
Comments:
Howdy, DanFanGangLand!!!
Sorry about the earlier typo----well, one of the joys of growing older is being able to expose your children and grandchildren to the Dan.
When my daughter was growing up, having keg parties on the back deck, saturating herself and friends in the hot tub, I would always put Steely Dan, Spyro Gyra, Miles Davis, Larry Carlton, Frank Zappa, and other artists songs on. Taking the tomatoes out of my hair, and the mustard off my face, it was always, "Dad, ain't you got anything else but "Peg", "Aja", "Time Out Of Mind", "Gaucho", etc.??? Needless to say, as owner of the house, I played what I wanted to, and when I wanted to----just confiscate the drunken ones keys.
Fast forward to eight years later (now), my grandson got his first experience in listening to his first "headphone session" of music with the "Aja" and "Gaucho" sets. Now when he comes up, he always goes to my SD pile (which is huge) points to the "Aja" cover, and says, "Mine"----we then listen to SD through our Sony headphones, dual outlet hookup. Grandsons can be smart, kewl, and have GREAT tastes in music.
Thankyou, Donald and Walter and sessions guest musicians for providing my grandson an appreciation of your music and lyrics.
I can't wait until he says, "throw back the little ones . . ."Saludos!!!
Michael
; )
Name: Nancy
@with a laughing face
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 09:43:53
Comments:
Hello everyone!!! It would seem to me that it would
depend on the audience that a group plays for. Hot or
cold ya know? I've got to go now, my cat just had
kittens, a whole mess of them. She stayed out late
one night and well you know...
Name: Manhattan Dan Fan
Carlton's act
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 07:30:38
Comments:
Not My Nancy -- I saw Carlton's club act a few months ago at the Blue Note (I also saw him play with "Fourplay" this past summer). Although I too love his playing with The Dan (and Joni Mitchell), I have to say the set was disappointing because, with the exception of his first and last tune (the last tune being his blatant rip-off of "Peg!"), it certainly WAS "lite Jazz" all the way. He also has a very annoying almost smarmy way of interacting with the audience, it's all very smooth and show-biz and aw shucks charming and jive. Wowing the crowd with cheap tricks like stereotypic riffs and blues notes that bend forever, ect. Most people, the tourists esp, ate it up but for me -- yech. He was some sort of Lounge Lizard or something. Having said that, he still IS a great player, impeccable tone, fantastic control, nice musical choices WITHIN any given song...it's just that the songs he plays (and writes) are BORING and very Liteweight. I guess it all depends on how much you can afford the admission $ and how willing you are to risk it to be disappointed.
Name: Not My Nancy
tomandmimi@bigfoot.com
Location: Clubland, USA
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 05:25:37
Comments:
Has anyone seen Larry Carlton's club act? He's coming to mein hometown of Boston at the end of November and I'd like to see him if he's not going to disappoint me. His work with the Dan is brilliant, but the solo stuff I've heard is not so shiny. "Smooth Jaz--97.1" comes to mind...
Name: fezo
i.respect.you.all.in.the.morning
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 05:22:33
Comments:
Ruby: Personal use is fine, just don't deal. But if you decide to deal, please put me first on the mailing list.
"Gaucho" is my favorite cover, by the way
Name: Clas
where's the cat?
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 00:59:26
Comments:
YGK - I don't have your email. My address:
atelje.lundkvist@swipnet.se
Schwinn - ummm, cool! I'm waiting.
Name: Pompe
@ the damn work
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 at 00:49:16
Comments:
Geena - the guy I am walking around with says that you have three cats. Isn't that one cat too many?
Name: Schwinn
specialolympians
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 23:25:48
Comments:
Dr. Mu: You matching Kinky whim for whim, now?
The Oklahoma State Cowboys have been picked to win the Big 12 Conference Basketball Title this year. I'm sure Kansas will be the eventual victor as usual but I thought I'd throw in a little "hoops" lingo so I can read some more funny ACC / SEC jokes. BTW, has Bobby Knight exposed himself to Kenneth Starr yet?
Fagen and Becker attending a Joni Mitchell show TOGETHER? If this is true it can mean only one of two things: (1. It was only coincidence that their seats were next to each other or, (2. The new CD is going to be better than we expect.
Speaking of the new Joni Mitchell CD, the only complaint I have is that she uses the same processing on her guitar that Prince used throughout "Purple Rain"--deep echo, short decay and even shorter attack. Other than that, thank God Michael McDonald isn't sharing a duet. "Man From Mars", the 2nd track, is worth the cost of admission all by itself--though I love Joni when she uses no processing at all.
Clas: The cut I will be submitting is entitled, "International Geophysical Yearling". Think of a centaur in love with a big, black cow. Everything's cool until the second verse when "Oh Michael, Oh Jesus" forces a bunch of blacks to either "get their ticket" or simply be witnesses to that "game of chance in the sky". Sounds like a big, jewish joke to me but then again, how funny is it when you end up paying over $100,000 for the laugh? That's why my song is totally serious and doesn't sample any Dan what-so-ever. The spore may be on the wind but I've realized the irony: It cannot grow unless you kill it with money.
And They Call the Wind Mariah Carey,SEMB
P.S. Hi Geena! Thanks for the Charmer...
SEMB
Name: Michael C. Packard
mcpio@inu.net
Location: Pineywoods Forest of Deep East Texas, USA
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 19:38:12
Comments:
Howdy, DanGanGangLand!!!
Oleander:
My impressions of the lyrics about "Turn That Heartbeat Over Again" from the "Can't Buy A Thrill" album----Wow, the key changes in this song----I think it's one big prayer, sort of . . .young people, doing everything they shouldn't, then praying at night . . ."love your Mama, love your brother. . ." etc., parroting what parents tell you to say . . . saying that the wrong things they do are never their fault, and they're making promises to be good, but these are mose easily kept when they feel the fear of the consequences, when "their hearts turn over". So, they'll especially keep their promises when God reminds them of his power by scaring them into it. So, the name "Michael", being in the same line as "Jesus", must be the archangel Michael . . .because that is Michael and Gabriel. . .
well, so much for my lyrics interpretation for this evening.Hey Josie!!! Guess my feed from my office goes into others---hmmm??
Saludos, Gang!!!
Michael
; )
Name: JosieDanFan
what@wonderful.day
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 17:33:33
Comments:
Hello fellow Dan Fans!
Today was fabulous! Not once, not twice, but three, count 'em THREE times did the play the irrisistable sounds of the Dan at my current place of employment. First came "Time Out of Mind" never before have I heard that in a public place before. I was so thrilled! Then about an hour later it was followed my "Do It Again". And when my day started to take a bad turn I was instantly lifted when I heard the opening strains of my signature song.."Josie". I found a new respect for my boss when he joined me word for word in singing along with Josie. Turns out he's a major Dan Fan too. The guy is alright!!Lester: I got home late last night, I'm sorry I missed ya sweetie. Maybe someday soon, really soon.
Kinky: You know you aren't my favorite person here, but I must admit this coalition against you kinda sucks. I said what I wanted to say to you, and I feel better.
Herm: I spent Halloween doing almost the same thing..pretty fun huh?
Later all!!
JDF
Name: Rose Darling
@the land of bees, stingers, milk and honey
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 16:33:48
Comments:
IMHO: Interesting. Kinda makes me go hmmmm....
Geena: I'm watching the Temptations movie too.
Eviva: Okay, I'm thinking about it. Yes, I do have your email.
Larry: Sorry. Wasn't trying to attack you personally. But how you stated your dissing of the book was somewhat arrogant though. Whilst it followed closely on the heels of my recommendation of the book, the dissing spilled over onto me. However, I agree about your point about unauthorized biographies. But if you think about it, what percent of the content of any biographies could be verified as truth? I suspect many biographies are manufactured PR.
Just because I "preach" against meanness, doesn't mean I'm a mind reader or authority about what everyone considers mean. Obviously I have my own version of what's mean, considering how others are entertained by stuff I prefer to scroll over in this GB. And if I stand up against meanness in general, does that necessarily mean I am preaching? What does that make those who stand up FOR meanness? Pontiffs for Political Incorrectness?
Now Larry "To Tell the Truth" how come you've never posted before that dissing of the Sweet biography?
Name: RubyBaby
the eyes of the Ranger are upon us...
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 15:55:05
Comments:
RazorBoy: Careful! You're stealing my heart. But I'll still have a song to sing. Do you know what happens to me after a certain amount of people watching? I fall in love with everyone...Pompe: Bad dog! I might have to introduce you to Mr. Swedish Squirrel Nut Snippers...
Geena: Restaurant sounds great! btw, I took a plain ball cap and drew the words Steely Dan on it just as they appear on CBAT and painted them blue & yellow. Then I gave it to a dan-loving friend. I wonder if he ever wears it anymore?
I want to paint a floppy sun hat like the cover of CTE. What do you think?fezo: Selling anything never crossed my mind. Wouldn't dream of it. How about if I just make one and wear it from time to time?
mWorld: horsey stew? I am a great cook, but really...
KinkySoNSo: I heard the theme song to Walker, Texas Ranger the other night and thought of you. How do you look in a long, leather coat?
rb
Name: Clean Willy
ClnWilly@aol.com
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 15:38:48
Comments:
Well hell yeah,
Finally a voice of reason. Sign me up for the WGRAKS... There has gotta be a better topic than this.
Oh yeah, there is. Thanks for the post MDF.
Name: mynahh
@werk
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 14:46:02
Comments:
Zeke:Sounds good/will do.
Name: Sociable Hermit
Listening2OverniteSensation@TheMoment
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 13:25:44
Comments:
Fezo:
Thanks for the information. Since I haven't drank the Red, White and Blue yet, (thought I'd save it for a special occassion), it's very possible that these bottles have been fermenting the lager for 14 years. Can beer in a bottle still taste good after sitting for that long? If and when I return the bottles, will I recieve accrued interest on the original deposit amount? I guess one sip or two for taste purposes won't kill me. I guess it's possible that it could still be brewed somewhere. That is, assuming that Red, White and Blue is even brewed to begin with. Now, if it were cans of Old Frothinslosh, then I'd worry about the effects of aging. On both the beer and the consumer of the beer. Now that I think of it, I should have brought my old beer can collection with me when I moved to the cave. I hope Maynard hasn't sold it.
Just for the record, warm Annie Green Springs does not go well with anything. But cold? Wow! I used to fancy myself a wine connoisseur, priding myself in tracking down rare vintages of small vinyards, then treating my friends to a glass or two. But, I tell 'ya, I was blind! AGS apple remarkable! Whether it be due to economics or incredible insight, these kids know their wine! I've got a bottle chilling in the creek that should be ready for indulging, so if you would excuse me.
P.S. I'll get back to you about the RW&B.
Later,
Herm
Name: Zeke
skin it back
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 12:41:22
Comments:
Minah: ooops!
Let's talk about that beer! Maybe we can take a tour of the
Abita Micro Brewery. As it get's closer, e-me. spike@eatel.net.
Name: !!!!!!!!!!!!!LESTER THE NIGHTFLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DANFEST@NEWORLEANS.COM
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 11:38:27
Comments:
Yo whats up danomaniacs!
I will be there for this one, even if i have to pawn my SD collection and sell my body for cab fare from tampa!
That should get me to Orlando at least or maybe us Florida folks on the GB could drive up together, rent a car, go in style!Kinky- Nice to finally talk to the real Kink a roo, your alright in my book, as long as your not trying to be a wise ass, but u fight fire with fire(Kansas), and I respect that, dont take any shit man!
Josie- I was surprised not to see ya in the chat room last night!
I've been so busy but now with all this wedding shit over I will have more time to post and chat, see ya in there!LN
Name: minah
khillman@lightspeed.net
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 10:28:14
Comments:
Zeke: Nov. 20-22 is when we're there/beer offer stands.
Manhattan Dan Fan: Thanks for the sighting, been so long since I've seen those guys I was begining to wonder if the last 3 tours were done with mirrors...nice to know they still exist.
Ole: You got my vote, somethin' tells me its the only worthwhile one I'll cast this grey November.
Ruby: Please forward horsey stew receipe.
Maj©/®: How's Jack?
mW
Name: cliff
@gone postal
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 10:20:57
Comments:
You people really know how to cheer someone up. 5O bucks,
Wow!!! How about a keychain or something?
Name: Geraldo
NYC
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 10:00:47
Comments:
MDF:
You got it all wrong. It was Geena and Kinky celebrating Halloween a day late by dressing up like Donald and Walter and catching a show
Name: Manhattan Dan Fan
Don + Walt Sighting - NYC
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 09:32:51
Comments:
Sorry to interrupt this conversation to report a sighting.
So there I was last night in my Row 20 Floor seats at Madison Square Garden for the Joni Mitchell/Bob Dylan show, it's between sets and the house lights are up, and I'm looking around at the crowd, and over in the higher seats stage right about 30 rows up, (about 60 feet away from me) plain as day there's Don + Walt. I just stared at them for a while with my mouth open. Then I'm ashamed to say tried to make my way up there (not even knowing why or what I'd do if I got there...probably just to get a closer look, or maybe try to eavesdrop) but I couldn't find their section and before long a blue-blazer cop cleared me back to my legal section. It was the highlight of the night.
Name: Zeke
checkin' in
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 09:12:15
Comments:
Minah: How was the trip to the coast? Sorry I didn't get back to you on that beer offer. Just getting back into town myself.
Did you make it to the city?The new arena in New Orleans should be completed around
June of '99. From what I hear the sound quality for concerts should be superb. Sure would be nice to have the Dan break this baby in. The new arena or the Jazz Fest, take your pick!Dan Fess' 1999 in New Orleans is sounding great. I hope it will happen. It's a great city to have a music related event. Besides,
I look forward to meeting Dan fans of the GB. So how do we get
Donald and Walter in on this?
Name: fezo
feeling.suddenly.patriotic
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 08:35:27
Comments:
Soc. Herm.: In what cool cave sector do they still manufacture "Red, White, And Blue" beer? In the human world, I haven't been able to find the fine brew since 1984. My stomach is about ready to give it another shot
Name: DrMu
Sheesh
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 07:52:31
Comments:
What's with all this obsession over Kinky? He is what he is and that all. He'll post just what he feels and there's no use matching him whim for whim. I'm forming a "Who Gives a Rat's About Kinky Society" but there will be no meetings and nor dues and I will not return e-mail or answer POSTS about it.
Steve V: Nice site. I'm still a little unsure about what happened in November, 1980 before the release of "Gaucho" with MCA (The Record Company Formerly Known as ABC-Dunhill), Warner Bros., Izoff, and a few attorneys playing hot potato with the final product. I'm curious as to what exactly happened.
Name: Sociable Hermit
TheLandOfDampLeaves.com
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 07:51:13
Comments:
Hello Everyone,
It's been a long time since I've last posted, and for that I apologize, but I have been pretty busy lately. Busy for a hermit, that is. I happened to stumble upon an old cemetary a while ago that is about three miles or so from my cave, (both my watch and my pedometer broke about a week ago while I was sliding down the side of a hill on a carpet of damp leaves. It's the fall equivalant to sledding. What a blast! Anyway, since I have no devices to guage time or distance when I am away from the cave, I am left with only my inate abilities of assessment. Unfortunately, when I was a member of society, I could get lost in a daydream while driving, only to snap out of it and realize that I had been moving for 45 minutes, and never left my cul-de-sac. So, by my internal estimations, we could be talking anywhere from three to fifteen miles.) When it dawned on me that it was Halloween weekend, I decided to hang out at the cemetary for a few laughs, you know, relive a little of that juvenial spirit. So, I brought along some blankets, my boom box, (believe it or not, but the batteries are still fresh!), food, drink, and some of that forest weed. Well, come Friday night, and wouldn't you know it, but small groups of teenagers began to show up to party and get spooked. So I figured, what the hell, why don't I give them what they came for? After a few beers, or slugs from their bottles of Boone's Farm and Annie Green Springs, they's start in with either a seance, or a rousing game of Mary Worth. Imagine their surprise when a six foot tall cave dweller rushed out of the darkness from behind a tombstone screaming, "The dead are alive! You have awoken us and you must pay!" Scared the shit out of them. From quivering freshman girl to ultra macho senior football player. They couldn't run fast enough to get away. Ha! What a blast. And they mostly all split without taking their stuff! That's what took me so long, was dragging all my booty back to the cave. Inventory includes 7 cases of beer, running the gamut from Becks to Red White, and Blue (returnable bottles), 15 bottles of wine, all partially sipped, a few half pints of whiskey and Southern Comfort, and some more of that weed. I also have 11 socks, a hockey jersey, 2 bras, (they both look to be 30 A's. I wondering if they were twins), and three pairs of girls panties. Not bad for 2 nights in the cemetary. I think I'm going to walk the bras and panties down the the Salvation Army drop-off box near the old Stop n Shop that's 3 miles away, (could be 10 miles, too). The only thing I'm rather disappointed about is that I didn't gt any candy. I mean, what the hell is Halloween without the candy?One other note: I read that you found out about Maynard Fergusen playing in a high shool auditorium in November. It's not a charity event, per se. Let me tell you why: It appears that the school Maynard attended as a youth was transferring all it's old files from microfeesh (sic) to it's new computer data base, and it happened across Maynards high school records. Seems he was supposed to serve a mandatory detention for previous disciplinary problems the week after graduation. But because it didn't hinge on him getting his diploma, he skipped it, and immediately went on the road with his band. They tried to find him, but because of a string of one-night stands, he was never pinned down, and it was summarily forgotten. Turns out the new principal is a no-nonsense woman who wants to use Maynard as an example. He was given the choice of serving detention for a month, or putting on a concert.
Not sure when tickets go on sale.
Stay in school, kids. Hahaha!!!!!!!!!
Herm
Name: YGK
..
Location: New York, NY
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 07:32:27
Comments:
Clas: so how do I know where to send anything? Are you going to write me, or do I need to track you down like a Mafia informant? like a Swedish squirrel?
ygk
Name: Ken Starr
Prudes'R'Us
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 05:12:34
Comments:
Forget this Clinton gig, I just read that genetic evidence reveals that despite his protests to the contrary, Thomas Jefferson, really did father a child by his slave, Sally Hemmings. Sex and lies and illegitimate offspring, oh my!!!.
Get me my shovel. I'm off to Monticello. The Constitution does not say the President has to be alive to impeach him.
I am the king of the world!!!
Name: Pompe
@ home again
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 02:17:29
Comments:
Okay Geena, I'm sorry Geena, or, I mean, I'm sorry Kimmy, sorry Nisse (why the hell did that cat refuse to go down into the blender? Strange animals, cats).
And I like Kinky. He's nice to animals and children.
Name: The Seance Guy
scorpiobolo
Date: Monday, November 2, 1998 at 00:43:06
Comments:
Virgil the Lesser: Thanks for reinforcing Dante's point that 9th graders are out of my league. However, I do know a few 6th graders who can help you with proper grammar if you're willing to die for tutelage. Think about this seriously. Better to croak in repentance today than "freeze-frame" on your unfortunate decision to impersonate Virgil when your life flashes before your eyes.
Earning Good Conduct Points by the Second,
Bill
Name: Virgil
@hell.com
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 23:29:45
Comments:
Bill Nye... Your gonna DIE!..and than FRY!
Name: Bill Nye the Seance Guy
allsaintsdaze
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 23:11:13
Comments:
I thought it would be fun to post as Kinky but there are severe penalties here for engaging in such activities as Dante himself made me well aware when he discovered my plans. "Don't try and out-smart your target audience of 7 - 12 year olds", he bellowed. That Guest Book is reading on the 9th grade level and you'll only infuriate Virgil again!" (You don't want to piss-off Virgil as I can attest. He has the power to reincarnate you in 16th century Italy and force you to endure the reformation of the Cathloic Church which is much more dangerous than mixing vinegar with baking soda, let me tell you!)
So rock on, Kinky. As long as you don't obsess over Dante's squeeze, Beatrice, everything should be fine when you stop breathing through no fault of your own.
Covering Your Actions,
Bill Nye
Name: Larry
not trying to hurt anybody
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 21:18:00
Comments:
Rose Darling, I didn't mean it that way. I wish there was another book out there. I meant that most unauthorized biographies are not very accurate, and I had a hard time believing a lot of what I read in Reelin In The Years. He semed to guess at a lot of things and the rest was articles I had already read. For someone who preaches against meanness, you weren't so nice to me yourself.
Name: EvivaLaughs
accentu@te.the.positive
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 20:39:03
Comments:
Ruby: Boy, do I LIKE these conversations you are having with the Master :)! Wouldn't our hair fall right out if we found out Jesus and Kinky are the same poster!
I guess "Dan-tolerating" is pretty close to describing Josh. None of my friends, including him, likes the Dan much. He does like a few songs like "True Companion," but mostly he says a lot of Dan songs all "sound kind of the same" to him.
!?!?!?!?!?!?
(Actually I do kind of understand this 'cause I think the same way about some other groups--except for those other groups it's TRUE! :) )Rose: Thanks so much for being a sweetie. I'll ask him, but El Future Groomo has visited this GB with me a couple of times to read-only, and he already thinks this group is a bunch of Dan-worshiping-semi-wackos as it is...! (His opinion of Kinky is unprintable; just thought you'd be flattered, Kinky...) Maybe we should keep it traditional...? Anyway, a Sat or Sun afternoon is *usually* OK if I know in advance, or e-me if that's not OK...you have my email, right?
Geena, JosieDanFan: You keep your heads high, ladies! We love ya!
Name: Geena
I've got sunshine on a cloudy day
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 19:17:29
Comments:
Stranger: I'll do so much better than cheap wine or store bought, I'll just bring over some of my Dad's wine, and if I think you're thinking what I'm thinking, he has his own grape press, no feet! (thank the Lord). Were you thinking of Don Rickles?
Schwinn: Sweet things from Boston big guy!
lisa: Adoption is indeed very painless and a good thing. I'm still waiting for my phone call from the Kremlin telling me to pick up my little package at the airport.
Big Fan: You're post was hillarious!
RubyBaby: I'd like to go to a restaurant in N.O. called NOLA if it still exists, it's owned by Emeril and he's from my side of town. The humidity makes my brain numb, and my hair is not what I worry about, my hair is already kinky, but we can wear baseball caps with a Steely Dan logo on the front (dusting off my sewing machine).
oleander:
*testing positive for bite-size candy bars* you too? I'm going to a support group for 3 Musketeers addicts tomorrow. I really thought I had a grip on the problem, but there it was, that shiny silver wrapper beckoning me to open it. I closed my eyes and counted to 10, but when I opened them, they multiplied! Is there such a thing as getting the DT's while in recovery?Now for something serious: I get it too now. The way I see it Stranger planted the seed, Kinky applied water and you nurtured it until grew and it became a flower and not a weed. Ok, so that was a little sappy, but Thank you. I don't want him to shrivel up and this is no forum for violence, you're right, what would the GB be without Kinky? It's almost like the Passover custom where you take the bitter with the sweet (correct me if I have this wrong).
Jenna Sis: great analysis!
JAZZZ: you're in the wrong room dude, and I see you've directed your question only to the men here which is highly disrespectful to those of the opposite sex who also post here...here's a woman's opinion...try www.iamdepraved.com
Pompe: Your post was very tasteless and you have been reported to PETA, now say I'm sorry, c'mon, bark!
Maynard Ferguson is playing here at a local high school auditorium on November 13. Tickets are $15. and you'll have to remove your own bubble gum from the seats.
In the words of the infamous Tom Petty and Schwinn...Damn the torpedos... I'm going to watch The Temptations movie on TV, I just sent my husband out for a box of bullets, they're delicious with butter and salt.
Peace and Love....
Name: hopsing
big@ndlittle
Location: lasHootras,
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 19:01:19
Comments:
Geena,
more King Crimson: Beat, Three of a Perfect Pair .. Then, go back a few more years, to In the Court of the Crimson King.hope ya like 'em. all
Name: dissBeliever
3 faces of even
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 19:01:16
Comments:
I posit that the message from Kinky2 is indeed the fraud. My basis?
>I click on the guestbook to say, yet another nice thing to
Oleander, only to find out that I already posted today<This sentence contains a flaw in punctuation, an unnecessary comma after the word say. I don't think for a moment the real Kinky would allow that error to go unchecked.
Name: IMHO
.com
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 18:30:57
Comments:
Rose D:
I don't like the meanness either but I dont think Kinky is as mean as some of the other people that post here. I think Kinkys posts are just funny. What I like even less are people posting under other peoples names. I've seen it happen before and that is a sure way to ruin a messageboard for everyone. It got so bad on one messageboard I used to write on that they finally just shut it down. I hope that doesnt happen here. Remember: It is alot better to have somebody post something you dont like, than it is for somebody to post something you dont like using your name.Keeping the faith
Name: Rose Darling
@weary,dreary,teary,leery
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 18:00:05
Comments:
Nothing increases the fires and ires of flaming posters like the oxygen of paying attention. Suggestion: turn the valves off, y'all.
It's a luxury of cyberspace that we don't have in the real world.Eviva:
If you're the guest of honor, then I guess we'd better be able to "throw" your shower on a night you can attend. MEANT to say this the other day. Still, couldn't you find time on a Saturday like December 5th with all this notice? El Groomo can attend too, ya know. Anyway, e me with some date suggestions.Geena: Ah, the limitless choices of a virtual shower gift !!! Let creativity rule.
Larry:
You got a better Dan Bible to recommend, then? Let me guess, information so much more straightforward, honest, truthful, and detailed about their lives was culled for that one, huh?oleander, Stranger and Eye Believe:
Don Rickles ( the King of Insults), and Buddha, Kinky ain't. Hero? Meanness sucks plain and simple, it doesn't inspire me or even entertain me at all. Only the fashionably cynical and pessimistic would glorify negative attacks on people as having abstract instructive and redeeming value. I'll take the yang without the yin, thanks. There is plenty of darkness to go round which makes us grateful for the light. No more bulb smashers need apply. I get my enlightenment from more illuminating sources.
As the old saying goes, you catch a lot more flies with honey.
P.S. As recent posts exemplify, you can see how purposeful continuous nasty repartee is, especially when you are a victim or perpetrator of it.
In My Sorta Humble Opinion, Rose
Name: Josie "the nit-wit" DanFan
huh@ahder.com
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 17:40:28
Comments:
I must say I have to agree with Kinky ( I can't believe I just said that)
I didnt really apreciate the nit-wit comment..but I've chosen to deal with and embrace it. He's no buddha to me. Although he does liven up the GB. I don;t really want to worship him as my GB god..
Kinky: I'm glad to hear you are a happy asshole. I can now sleep at night.
JDF
Name: Josie "the nit-wit" DanFan
huh@ahder.com
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 17:40:25
Comments:
I must say I have to agree with Kinky ( I can't believe I just said that)
I didnt really apreciate the nit-wit comment..but I've chosen to deal with and embrace it. He's no buddha to me. Although he does liven up the GB. I don;t really want to worship him as my GB god..
Kinky: I'm glad to hear you are a happy asshole. I can now sleep at night.
JDF
Name: Pompe
@ the Bodega
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 15:44:36
Comments:
It's my birthday tomorrow. I've always wanted Catjuice. Ruby, Nisse is so old and dry, can't squeeze a drop out of him. How about Kimmy?
Name: JAZZZ
MrPrezelLogic.Com
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 13:28:01
Comments:
I really love big tits!
Now, some women have these size (.)(.) tasty
though they may be...but I really like 'em ( o )( o )!
They can't be too big...what do you guys think?
Name: Kinky
oh no, here we go again
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 12:57:01
Comments:
What a pleasant surprise. I click on the guestbook to say, yet another nice thing to Oleander, only to find out that I already posted today. EyeBelieve I've been impostered!
Kinky - Yeah, you wiping the shit off your face. We don't need another hero.
Name: EyeBelieve
likeWaterForChocolate
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 12:24:46
Comments:
I think we both know I'm not an idiot. And why should all the GB'ers act like you for a week? What would that prove?
I never said your truth must be swallowed by the masses. As Oleander stated, perhaps you are willing to say things many of us are thinking, but won't speak aloud. Does it bother you to secretly function as "the voice of the people"?
What, are you more comfortable as the dreaded anti-hero? Come on, Kinky. Tell us about your underneath.
Name: Kinky
wiping chocolate off my face
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 11:55:22
Comments:
Oleander - Yeah, yeah, yeah, intellectual laziness, vanity and blathering. That describes your own last post perfectly.
How in the HELL is calling Josie a nitwit, for example, supposed to be construed as some kind of compliment? Could you explain how, exactly, she could go about doing that? No, I didn't think so, hence your intellectual laziness.
You see, you SAY you want me on this GB, but I don't believe that you truly do. How do I know this? Because your only "excuse" for me is that I don't really mean what I say, or that I'm just trying to get them to "think." This clearly implies that if I did insult people intentionally, then that wouldn't be acceptable to you.
But as I've shown above with the Josie example, your assumptions are not valid. And while your intellectual laziness is apparent, at least you're not (not most of the time, anyway) not stupid. So I conclude you are only making some kind of open letter pronouncement to the GB to try to convince everyone on the GB not to take me seriously and therefore eviscerate my posts. Which shows how vain you are, oh Mighty Godmother of the Guestbook. You are very sadly mistaken. What made you think you could ever make me shrivel up and go away? Oh, and if you think I'm Buddha, see my post to EyeBelieve.
EyeBelieve: Yeah, I'm the hero of the guestbook, idiot. If you really believe that, try this fun exercise: Everyone on the GB act like me for one week and see what the GB looks like at the end of the week. A vision of hell rivaling Dante. See my point?
Name: EyeBelieve
notForProfit
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 11:26:46
Comments:
Heed the words of the wise, people. Kinky is an entity outside the realm of mortal man. He is a defender, protecting what he interprets as the truth. Even if you don't agree with his version of it, you gotta respect his tenacious effort at keeping it sacred. I think he is the hero, not the antagonist of this guestbook.
And if you ever do get the opportunity to visit his "shadowy province", you'll find it's not dark in there at all. But be careful: the light gets inside you.
Name: Jenna Sis
good.news.for.modern.man
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 10:51:44
Comments:
Here's the truth. May it set you free:
On the 7th day, St. Al created the Guestbook. Kinky was one of his angels but was soon banished for several counts of overambition and irreverance. He's now doing eight to ten eons of living on the dark side of the GB and trying to draw the souls of other posters into his shadowy province. Be careful about summoning him, and be particularly careful about telling him to "Get thee behind me."JS
Name: Steve V Dan Esq.
@information overload .com
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 09:58:22
Comments:
Hey Michael Packard & Freakin Puerto Rican, Lester ..etc... ;
for more Steely stuff...check out ...
http://www.jps.net/stevev/sdfcontents.html ...aka ...'The Steely Dan File'...soon to be re-named 'The Steely Dan Chronology'.......
.re: Steely Dan on Letterman.......I think that was a re-run from 1995 'Alive In America' promo......
This day in Steely History- Nov. 1980 :MCA Records wins a court injunction barring Steely Dan from pressing their new album 'Gaucho' on Warner Brothers......'Gaucho' is ussued by MCA for $9.98 on 12/1/80......'Hey 19' enters US chart soon after on its' way to #10.....Steely Dan do radio interview with Robert Klein in December...........................to be contd.
Name: oleander
testing positive for bite-size candy bars
Date: Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 08:23:11
Comments:
An open letter to all Guestbookians in re l'Affaire Kinky:
Yes, by George, Stranger has got it! And put into words the epiphany I felt not long ago when I Got It Too. You see, Kinky is the Buddha of the GB. How, you say?
One, there are those on the GB who, if they met him on the road, would like to kill him.
Two, he speaks in ways that really grab your attention and can be regarded as koans. For example, when he offhandedly says he might consider having my life, I can interpret that as a major dis, and get all steamed up, or I can take it as a very nice thing to say. Or both. So he helps us live with emotional ambiguity, which brings us closer to detachment and satori.
Three, he says the things that people like me, who wouldn't hurt a fly, might really think & want to say in the deep dark underbelly of our ids, but don't have the stones to. He takes on what he sees as intellectual laziness, vanity, and blathering--without compunction, even thought occasionally he sacrifices politeness or common decency. They obscure the point, anyway. He also can bring out the best: people rally to defend one another, and without him we might not know Geena's tough beauty in its fullness.
Now we run into a problem. If everybody Gets It, and beatifies the Kinkster, he could 1) shrivel up like the Wicked Witch of the West, and we would have him no more, 2) escalate, like violence in film, until we become hardened, senseless zombies in the face of his attacks, or 3) become just like everyone else.
I don't know about you, but I couldn't envision a future GB without him. There's no bright side without the dark side, no icono without clasm, no yang without yin. So how about this? Take what I just said as an elaborate dis. Or not.
Hope you had a delicious Halloween. MWAH!
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