SIS Archives -- September 2000

Welcome Poor King John:

I'm going to play Devil's Advocate and assert that The King Richard II saga was given a twist. The Kennedy/Nixon anlogy ius allowed to be assumed, but does not fit the lyrics directly. I think we all know the legend of king Richard II (the Lionhearted) who left England to lead the Crusades while is caniving brothe Prince John usurped the throne after a lengthy abondonement. Lord Loxely (Robin Hood) represented (whether real or not) the underground movement against King John's "reign of terror" and the Sherriff of Nottingham. Eventually King Richard arrives back into the country under wraps when he discovers the state the King John has put the country and that King Richard himself has a price on his head. Steely Dan puts their signature twist on the myth.

"Now they lay his body down
Sad old men who run this town"

King Richard is laid to rest - did his life live up to the legend?

"I still recall the way
He led the charge and saved the day
Blue blood and rain
I can hear the bugle playin'"

King Richard left for the Crusades with great fanfare

"CHORUS:
We seen the last of Good King Richard
Ring out the past his name lives on
Roll out the bones and raise up your pitcher
Raise up your glass to Good King John"

King Richard's journey takes many more years than expected. The people and Prince John turn to each other

"While he plundered far and wide
All his starving children cried
And though we sung his fame
We all went hungry just the same"

Sure, King Richard was a hero, but we peasants are left without leadership, substance. Without that CNN and FoxNews feed every day, can we really continue to celebrate the "victories" over the Moselm Infedels in the Middle East, the Balkans, and modern day Turkey?

"He meant to shine
To the end of the line"

It's the end of the line for peasants as they begin to run out of patience and

"CHORUS
We seen the last of Good King Richard
Ring out the past his name lives on
Roll out the bones and raise up your pitcher
Raise up your glass to Good King John"

King John is here - how little did we know?

In a sense desparation of the people often lead to an acent to power by despots - Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mao. The case could be made for Nixon at the height of the Vietnam War. Thus Good King John, not Good King Richard might better represent Richard Nixon...just my late night take...

HI,
I just read the JAZZIZ interview and being one who while I was
younger identified with the concept of being "different" and
following the beat of many different drums.

So today I say...

Who cares what Jack thinks....

Ed(one d) Beatty

if you're bored, have a peek at what I've been playing with in Photoshop this evening at:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6974/AutumnWoman.html

or if you're *really* bored, have a peek at the whole page at:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6974/

It's *not* a Steely Dan page but they have influenced me on many levels....*ttfn*

Thank You Everyone!

L.P: I to thought it was nioxon. I don't think it was any of englands king richard's because it say's " WE'VE seen the last...
and "WE" all went hungry....it gave me the impression that we
all lived throught who ever's rain...must be trickey Dick?

dandom slut: thanks i'll look out for the cassette. one i have
on cassette is "the new york rock and soul review" Do you know
if that one is out on C.D.?

Y.G.K. Thanks for the missing list i've got my local C.D. store
looking throught there books for me.
I was suprised to see "Android Wearhouse" (cave of
altamira) i wonder why they changed the name of the song?
it was also one of the songs i wanted to ask about.
i think i understand the first vers but when we get to
"They heard the call and they wrote it on the wall for
you and me WE understood" that i still can't get any
feed back???
And why did't it make an earler album? my copy was
recorded in 1968?

'Cause i'm worrying about the future now
or maybe this is it!'

They have models in Prison?

Thanks z. Are you a model prisoner?

Ugh. Danvention souvenirs.

All right, then.
Anyone who wants a totally free, totally lame but possibly useful Souvenir from the Irvine, CA Danvention should send their address to:

onthedunes@hotmail.com

That's all you have to do.

First people get Big Ones. Later people get Little Ones. It may take a few weeks.
These will be "finished" souvenirs, as opposed to the do-it-yourself ones that didn't quite work out, for whatever reason.

Fie on the odd Listbot people who forwent the Dandom Par-tay, and left me with 90 of these fuckers. That's OK though. The 8 lbs. of gourmet candy went to a grateful pot smoker who is taking me to surf in Costa Rica in exchange. I am aware of the current tourist-death squad travel advisory.

The Danfans were so infinitely cool! So many WAY out-of-towners and the Lilliputian Fans made it very special. Next year we throw in the San Juan Natural Hotsprings and a bonfire on the beach afterwards.

good show z !

while you're at the link below, be sure to check out the video lesson with Larry Carlton....it's more of an interview with a few licks thrown in but the guy doing the interview talks a lot about the Steely Dan sessions and Kid Charlemange in particular. Don't miss this one!

Very nice bio of Larry Carlton including a mention of the Dan at:

http://www.guitar.com/features/viewfeature.asp?featureID=114

What a beautiful weekend we're having here!

Greetings all. I have a few spare minutes here and thought I'd say hi.

||||||-I just spent 2 minutes trying to remeber which key that was. I like the coffee idea or maybe cappichino's (sp?) till dawn? I've got the WWI Black Adders taped. Favorite quote, "Treat your women like you treat your kite (plane). Jump in 'er 5 times a day and take her to heaven and back, OOOH!" Almost Diceman-like.

Other tv favs-Alf, Parker Lewis can't lose, The Paper Boy (Chris Elliot at his funniest), Gilligan (MaryAnn had it going on), Moonlighting, The Rockford Files (I remember getting to stay up late to watch that one. I thought is was great. I loved the car),
Hogans Heroes, The Outer limits (the original, fantastic stuf)

For anyone not in the know, there is a Trifecta reunion in planning. Check out- http://dandom.com/danfests/trifecta/index.html
Hope to see all the Alumni there!!

Peace love and Dan,

Razor

A weekend of bliss...

Roy.Scam
Re: Almost Famous. In an interview in Illinois Entertainer this month, Cameron Crowe stated that he tracked down the original tape of (I think) Midnight Special with Steely Dan performing because the deflowering scene literally depicts how he lost his Opiedom to the tunes of Steely Dan, and he wanted to show it accurately.

Well, it's time for my weekly online session again, and I'm sad to report that my career as a music teacher in the NYC Public School System has come to an end after less than a week!
My Steely Dan curriculum was rejected by the AP of the Music Dept. at the high school for not being inclusive enough, and lacking any multicultural focus. He has a completely Eurocentric view of music and if the three Bs aren't the main focus, he won't have any of it.
Also, the fingerprint check on me came back and revealed some of my "brushes with the law", and no matter how many times I told them that I'd been found guilty by reason of insanity only, they still seemed to find that unacceptable. I had a short meeting with an odd fellow named Ed Stanzic, signed a few papers, and was sent back to the Institute immediately.
Since my last historic analysis of "Almost Gothic", I have since taken apart and looked at the only other two songs from the 2 Against Nature CD that weren't performed at the PBS concert that are worth looking at.
The first, "Negative Girl", again uses their new technique of having an introduction in a seemingly unrelated key that leads to a harmonically ambiguous first chord of the verse. This is a technique that was used a great deal by Gene Puerling of course in many of his vocal arrangements, and you have to give those two credit for stealing from a musically superior source.
In this case, we have a few sus. chords that ultimately end on Dm9, but then are plunged into the verse by a couple of polychords that have a wonderfully shocking effect on our harmonic sensibilities.
Since the prison library's tape player is ancient and seems to be playing things a semi-tone or too off, I may not be listing events at concert pitch. I apologise, but there isn't much of a choice in the matter...
The 2 polychords, a minor3rd apart are Ab/A and F/F#, and lead to an Fsus9 chord, and we don't have much of an idea about where we are tonally yet. The 2 chords repeat, only this time are followed by a Gb9 chord using the same voicing of a maj second on top betwixt the 9th and 3rd that I so eloquently pointed out in the first chord of "Almost Gothic".
This leads to a Bmaj9+11 chord that we can hear as a V to I resolution of the Gb9 chord. A Bbm11 chord follows and we seem to be hearing a iii chord in Gb, but then a Bm7 to Bm6 follows that has a beautiful,exotic quality, that then is followed by ii V (who was the pretentious asshole that said SD don't use ii V progressions- but then there are so many pretensious AHs on this GB that it really doesn't matter...) in Gb, but they follow it with a beautiful Amaj7 to Amaj6 which acts as akind of deceptive cadence that leads to another use of their idea used so well in "Almost Gothic", of Maj7th chords a whole step apart, which takes us back to the top again.
The 2nd ending continues this idea another step and a half down, leading us to the chorus, in the lydian mode melodically, and harmonically on a DbMaj9+11 chord that is approached a step down on the words "more of the same".
This is followed by a seeming reprise of the verse, but is actually a C section that uses similar chords and melodic ideas from the verse- Astounding!
The last tune "West of Hollywood", again gives us an intro in another key, starting on a Am7b5 chord followed by D7b5, again ii V in G that leads to a plagal cadence in Eb.
A wonderful swooping effect (pedal steel guitar?)lifts the tune into a "Happy and peppy" tempo, complete with a surf-boogie type bass-line, but in the key of cm on a Cm9 chord, telling us we're encountering a bittersweet situation.
As in "Jack of Speed" and so many other of their little ditties, we go from tonic minor to bVImaj7, but then are plunged into harmonic confusion by a Donna Summer's-Last Dance-like episode on an Eb pedal that goes to Bbm7, Abmaj7, Bbm7 Gbdim.+7, Eb9sus, which is followed by a seeming cadence in Ab (again, essentially ii-V-I) that unexpectedly modulates to the extremely foreign key of Abminor! The melody of this modulation ascends, giving us a very excited feeling that is followed by "I'm real deep into nothing special" suggesting a change of time and space.
For all the chiding I give these two reprobates against nature, they are very talented tunesmiths, perhaps among the best, such as Sondheim et.al., and their use of pedals under symmetrical triads in their modulations in this tune are very effective.
For example, in the intro, a G pedal is used under Bb,G,E andDb triads, that is very effective in pulling off this tempo change. When they shift to Abm, their use of descending major and minor triads against an Ab bass, recalls Dr. Wu and the Doobie Bros. and is followed by another modulation using that same pedal idea in Fminor!
We go back to Cm and the top, but on the second ending, this passage leads us to Gm, and we get some astoundingly good guitar work by the pudgier of the two- astounding, because his other solos on the CD are astoundingly piss-poor. However, he made up for that on the PBS concert, where he must have been inspired or coached by Herrington into some very nice playing.
Well, my time is up again, as the prison guards are informing me, so I'll have to continue educating you pretentious rabble some other week.

Mr. steviedan ~ I'll bite on your Leon Russell gambit! During my senior year of high school (1971-1972), the "Master of Time & Space" was one of my personal heroes...and yes, his music stands the test of time 30 years later!

Rock historians usually focus on LR's "Superstar" years from 1970's eponymous album, which featured now-standards such as "A Song for You" & "Delta Lady" (covered by The Carpenters & Joe Cocker, respectively), through 1975's "Will O' the Wisp"...

1972's "Carney" was, to me, the epitome of the LR style ~ and featured such classic tunes as "This Masquerade", which arguably become the 'signature' tune for guitarist George Benson, as well as other "Tight Rope" (isn't that on a TV commercial now?), and the lush ballad, "Me & Baby Jane"...

1997's "Retrospective" is a great point of depature for new (or revisiting) listeners, with 18 of his greatest hits ~ amazon.com price: $12.99! 1992's Bruce Hornsby-produced "Anything Can Happen" is an interesting collaboration, with guest songwriting and vocal duties by country great Willie Nelson.

From the All Music Guide ~

The ultimate rock and roll session man, Leon Russell's long and storied career includes collaborations with a virtual who's-who of music icons spanning from Jerry Lee Lewis to Phil Spector to the Rolling Stones; a similar eclecticism and scope also surfaced in his solo work, which couched his charmingly gravelly voice in a rustic yet rich swamp-pop fusion of country, blues and gospel. Born Claude Russell Bridges on in Lawton, OK on April 2, 1942, he began studying classical piano at age three, a decade later adopting the trumpet and forming his first band. At 14 Russell lied about his age to land a gig at a Tulsa nightclub, playing behind Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks before touring in support of Jerry Lee Lewis; two years later, he settled in Los Angeles, studying guitar under the legendary James Burton and appearing on sessions with Dorsey Burnette and Glen Campbell. As a member of Phil Spector's renowned studio group, Russell played on many of the finest pop singles of the 1960s, also arranging classics like Ike and Tina Turner's monumental "River Deep, Mountain High"; other hits bearing his input include the Byrds' "Mr. Tambourine Man," Gary Lewis and the Playboys' "This Diamond Ring," and Herb Alpert's "A Taste of Honey."

In 1967 Russell built his own recording studio, teaming with guitarist Marc Benno to record the acclaimed Look Inside the Asylum Choir LP. While touring with Delaney and Bonnie, he scored his first songwriting hit with Joe Cocker's reading of "Delta Lady," and in 1970, upon founding his own Shelter Records imprint, he also organized Cocker's legendary Mad Dogs and Englishmen tour. After the subsequent tour film earned Russell his first real mainstream notoriety, he issued a self-titled solo LP, and in 1971 appeared at George Harrison's Concert for Bangladesh following sessions for B.B. King, Eric Clapton and Bob Dylan. After touring with the Rolling Stones, Russell increasingly focused on his solo career, reaching the number two spot with 1972's Carny and scoring his first pop hit with the single "Tight Rope." While the success of 1973's three-LP set Leon Live further established his reputation as a top concert draw, response to the country-inspired studio effort Hank Wilson's Back was considerably more lukewarm, as was the reception afforded to 1974's Stop All That Jazz. 1975's Will O' the Wisp, however, restored his commercial lustre, thanks in large part to the lovely single "Lady Blue."

In June of 1975, Russell married singer Mary McCreary; the following year the couple collaborated on The Wedding Album, issued through his newly-formed Paradise Records label. Also in 1976, the Russell-penned "This Masquerade" earned a Grammy Award for singer George Benson. He and McCreary reunited for 1977's Make Love to the Music, and upon completing the solo Americana, Russell teamed with Willie Nelson for 1979's Willie and Leon. He then spent the next two years touring with his bluegrass band the New Grass Revival, issuing a live LP in 1981; although Paradise shut down later that year, the label was reactivated for 1984's Hank Wilson, Vol. II and Solid State. Russell spent the remainder of the decade largely outside of music, and did not resurface until issuing the Bruce Hornsby-produced Anything Can Happen in 1992. The album appeared to little fanfare, however, and another long period of relative inactivity followed prior to the 1998 release of Hank Wilson, Vol. 3: Legend in My Time. Face in the Crowd appeared a year later. — Jason Ankeny

Pretty impressive, I'd say!

St. Al~ Hearty congratulations on the birth of Stella. Raising daughters is easy if they turn out as smart, talented, hard working, and just downright good as my daughter is. Best wishes to the three of you.

Roy.Scam~ Nice going; you managed to turn that congratulatory message into a fathercentric boast.

Altamira~ New job; new decade. You're driving 90 miles an hour into Stressville. I'm sure you'll handle both with grace. Actually, from where I stand (well, hobble, actually), 40 looks like a drive west on Sunset.

Favorite sitcoms: The Simpsons, Slap Maxwell Story, Roseanne, The Honeymooners.

I saw the film "Almost Famous" the other night and noticed that the version of "Reelin' In the Years" didn't seem to be one that I'd heard before; I thought it was a cover version, but I waited and read the credits at the end (to the vocally expressed disgruntlement of my companions) and, indeed, it was performed by Steely Dan. Anyone know the origin of that particular recording?

Semi-Encouraging observation about the Olympics: Great bodies sometimes lose (Gail Deevers, Holly Mcpeak); Lousy bodies sometimes win (Tommy Lasorda, Rulon Gardener).

RS

Corpsy V reporting from the BackBone Festival where our troops surveillantly mingle with the crowd that has no clue whatsoever some X-filed creatures are still amongst us. Kindly sponsored by a mega-metropoled corporation, cadets and nurses and ranked officers are dressed in less conspicuous clothing than the regular outfit we wear. The red boots with the detectorized heels are camouflageously painted over with the silvertanned sunblock the discountshop in a two street village could not sell to any Trekkie that refused to stop for the sign saying -----
wait, wait, my radio ---- there's a message ------Corpsy V reporting, come in, Tango Dandruff, move over Scrambled Eggplant, this is an emergency!

Okay, call in the Medicine Man, we're to distribute this Love Bug here, it seems the Backbone Festival's in real need for being bugged by Love. Privates, prepare our battleship the Lady RS |||||. She's to be released at the command of our Major X, the minute he sings "Strangers in the night".

Tango Dandruff, shouldn't you be in the Winter Assignment, this is the Falling Leaves Project, mind if we discuss this delicate matter in the Cafe D'Escargot?

Corpsy V, ungracefully wearing the unreal poncho

Dr Mu & Steviedan - Cheers guys. It's interesting that Joshua Redman is better known as a Tenor man - I suppose every artist has their "known" instrument, but the tune 'Balance' from the "Beyond" album is the best piece of Soprano saxophone work I have ever heard. This is art most expertly and expressively delivered.

beautiful night for playing music. a little autumn chilliness, but i harnessed the slight finger numbness and made it work for me. well, guitar yes, keyboard less so.

amazing. arvo part was perhaps what i thought would be the LEAST recognizable name on that list. henryk gorecki also does some cool modern choral writing. there is a cd called "magnum mysterium" by the westminster choir that features a great range of choral compositions through the present day. HIGHLY recommended.

thanx to those (gina/lp/rumble/lucyB/etc) who humored my nostalgic waxings. i can be an unbearable sentimental old fool at times. politically, however, i like to keep my eyes on the future and the good old days are out the window.

mr chow, good call on joshua redman. one of the finest young lions on tenor. his newest is great but i still favor the album "wish" with metheny, charlie haden, and billy higgins. of course eminem would sound good with that band. i also am fortunate to possess a gray-area recording on the jazz door label of that band debuting the material to a small but dangerous audience. man...

dandom slut, now i'm ASSUMING you are female, what with the clue about the orifice and everything. anyway, no matter, this would be class in the unisexual sense. ready ? the cover painting from gaucho. that would be artistic and cryptic. perfection and grace.

wonderful to see the lurkers posting. variety, the seasoning. matter of fact, it's Lurker Day Weekend so scratch your way out of the woodwork and just give us a go to hell or something.

gb-tee ? from what i've seen of these people here, SOMEBODY will make it happen. i'd get my wife involved, she's a great artist & designer but because of that, she's swamped constantly and i'd hate to take her over the top to prozacia.

ole, that would be a logical guess but not necessarily a wish. as close as they have worked in the last few years, i don't think it really matters. walt would be all over it anyway. how about an all orchestral album like joe jackson did with "willpower" ? i'm IN ! and tell me, HAVE you listened to that flecktones (live art) yet ? is it all i said and more ?

drmu, unfortunately "guaranteed" is out of print, but i'll keep my eyes open. i see mega used cd's coming through and recently, most of their catalog has come out on remastered import two-fers. it might be forthcoming. might be on e-bay for cheaps.

only one last time will i cast the name of leon russell. any appreciaters or detractors ? i've hit a couple of his albums lately and in addition george benson taps his tunes heavily on "weekend in l.a." that i was checking out a night or two ago. brilliant songwriter/musician and soulful southerner as far as stevie's concerned.

excessive verbage apology issued.

Altamira: I meant to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY, GIRLFRIEND! You don't post a day over 25!

Everyone: The NaNa Project is a hit! One thing is interesting - she didn't hear the NANAs in "Change Of The Guard" at first. She had to go back and listen for it. It must be that the song flows so smoothly into the NaNa segment - like ice cream melting into the cone. Maybe that's why I didn't remember it was there...

re gb Ts: I picture a faint silhouette of a guy playing the saxophone behind the main graphics (in honor of Dr. Wu and Deacon Blues.)

St.Al: You must play Bowie's "Kooks" for Stella Rae.

Will you stay in our lover's story
If you stay, you won't be sorry
'cause we believe in you
Soon you'll grow
so take a chance
with a couple of kooks
hung up on romancing...

rb

Ole: Yes, The Dilbert Principle. Where the brain uses tight rhetoric to tie loosely associated facts or observations (Ignoring the roots of coincidence) and rationalize an assertion initiated by the limbic system. This was actually based on scientific data that demonstrated that logical thinking temporally FOLLOWED the "conclusion" rather than the other way around.

Here's mine: The Force Ten from Navarone Theory of Economic Doom. Maybe because I heard Black Friday in a dream last night. Lucent, Microsoft, Intel, Apple, United tanking. Individual FUBARs by shortsighted companies? ...or signature cracks that are the result of government attempting to control the economy when it should be left alone? ...an amyloid glaze on Greenspan's gray matter? ...overtaxing the public? ...just tell me when the Germans flee from the dam. I'll have dinabol sauce with my vegemite please.

The times actually caught up with The Talking Heads in the mid 80s. That is, more people started to get their performance art. Once in a Lifetime is classic as More SOngs About Buildings and Food. Pop music could use such a shot of art now. Speaking of Art (Garfunkel that is), toupeeless Paul Simon will have a new one out soon. The title track is downloadable legal and free to You're the One. Quintessential 70s Simon redux with some of the Latino rhythms from Late in the Evening and Rhythm of the Saints. Rhymin' Simon-type clever 4 min ditties are supposedly in store. Nothing earth-shattering though probably.

Gettin' the hype out and free/sheap stuff - that's been a big fault of Apple/Jobs (sameasiteverwas). Brilliant inovator, but he does not understand what makes the typical consumer feel good about products. The elitist, ivory-tower, Berkeley attitude is only forgivable with excellent service and value. Cool, geeky stuff is great for Walter and I but... Only limited venues for selling, difficulty and even charging for basic troubleshooting and support, overcharging for monitors, The Cube, and the higher end G4s, not giving support manufacturers (printers, fax machines, software) adequate lead time for hardware and software. Compaq and Dell are coming back from the dead by undercutting prices and hyping products well ahead of time.

sorry about the pontificating...

Altamira: Mick turns a jazz/blues lounge song like Sad Old Red from Picture Book into something Special. Almsot forgot about the title track - a Royal Scam title track openness and oomph...

Stevie: My impression of Level 42 probably had consistenly better musicianship than Simply Red. SR started off as a band, but after a short period of time Hucknall thought he was Donald/Walter (oops, who is). I admit I haven't listened to L42 enough to be fully appreciative. Let me know if you locate the Holdsworth recording.

lp--They indeed were handsomely rewarded for the "Black Cow" samples. If you're interested, there are parodies ad nauseam at http://home.earthlink.net/~oleander1/parodies.htm Which is the more pathologic: writing them, or collecting them?

blessed--I see the poncho as worn brown leather too, with those cheesy studs you could hammer into the leather.

Alta--happy birthday, girlfriend. Tear it up.

StevieD--Next project a DF solo? Oh man, if, after finally getting to hear Mr. B up front and enjoying it (him that is), there isn't a whole-Dan follow-up, I will be crushed.

Not My Three Sons--great line. I also am in the Fred McMurray club. BTW, the youngest (who these days is sporting a blonde Mohawk) tonight referred to Multigrain Cheerios as "the camouflage Cheerios."

chere--missed you. As far as I can tell, there is absolutely no reason to take your juju elsewhere. We need you here, bigtime. (And I STILL want to talk "Two Against Nature" with you.)

dleestan--"Gaslighting" a wedding song?!?

Poor King John--welcome. Seniority doesn't mean shit around here. No merit increase, no gold watch....

Slut--I sometimes use the seven deadly sins, as well as the Seven Dwarfs and the seven virtues, as a means to keep myself awake while driving--that is, trying to name them. Dig your style. L'shanah tovah to you too, and to all others of the persuasion.

random twister--those are funny.

Herm, tom--Hermie, surely you know that I could never, never attack the hippest trog on the planet except with toxic perennial besos y abrazos. That said, I love the Talking Heads. I love that "arch postmodern" stuff. Plus they were a kickass dance band--viz. "Stop Making Sense." Sure, they were a lot about performance art, but so is Peter Gabriel, and unintentionally a lot of other pyrotechnicians too. I even liked "True Stories." But though they were hyper-self-aware, their images and use of language sometimes were just amazing. Like "heaven is a place"--oh jeez, it's the perfect send-up of blase kulturyuppies. "Life During Wartime" similarly both addressed the bleakness & fear of war mentality and spoiled American youth, in really funny juxtaposition. Who couldn't love the ambiguity in "Creatures of Love"? In my office, I have the "facts" interlude from "Crosseyed and Painless" framed and posted prominently to remind myself of the subjectivity of what I do. I like the minimalist non sequiturianness of "Remain In Light"--which came out right about when "Gaucho" did, didn't it? They're merged in that same narrow timescape for me. I really think "Once In A Lifetime" was brilliant. Oh and Herm--you are a lovely poet and don't knoet. Context can save a lot of mediocre poetry. It has to be really great to grab you if it's by a stranger and in a book.

||||--I'm really easy to pick out in the collage.

Dept. of Post-Tour Stress Syndrome--Now that the tour is over, to alleviate a little of the inevitable depression, I would like to offer a number of leftover Raleigh DanFest party favors. If you send me 10 bucks (EXACTLY what it cost me to print them) and a SASE (6" x 9") I will send you something that is guaranteed to make you smile or at least temporarily lower your Prozac dose. I will keep you in suspense as to what exactly they are, but if you want testimonials, ask some of the real & honorary Raleigh survivors.

That's:

oleander
PO Box 7011
Asheville NC 28802

For a limited time only.

Dave

I'm curious
what top ten things do you not like about those stupid top ten lists?

George

Tamye: Congrats on your newest addition and being another Texas Danfan

Mr. Chow: Good recommendation. I like what I've heard on the local NPR

So much for watching any more Ben Folds Priceline cameos on Quicktime! iMovie and final Cut Pro still rule though! Hoops - we the faithfull will hang in there as Jobs wakes up and prices the Cube under $1000.

Walter: This is your opportunity to buy a controlling interest in Apple...

They say these times are changing Oh what a long time ago

Dandom Slut - Isn't the true sin "Anger" rather than "Hubris"? Hubris is a bit closer to Pride than Anger. The Professor is probably the one that would bust your theory, but nice one anyway.

Any fans of Joshua Redman here? His album "Beyond" is just that. Beyond and brilliant.

Happy belated birthday Altamira!

I absolutely, without a doubt love Steely Dan!! This music was my relaxation music during labor when I was pregnant with my second son. It most certainly did the job! Everyone in my labor room, from nurses, anesthisologists, and even the doctor all made comments that they wish all patients had such good taste in music! Now, I listen everyday while burning some incense. This totally relaxes me and helps me to regroup after taking care of a 3 year old and a 1 year old both boys, all day!! Please, please let there be a concert summer 2001! Sincerely, and with lots of love and admmiration, Tamye

Happy
Birthday.
It's
Alta-
Mira's time.
S(he)'s
only 40--sexual peak for women
S(he)
gets off
every time.

Vegans Fearing
A T-bone tender,
A Steak that's rare and fine.
I dismember
that Cook in your thighs.
I don't mind

Leeks
and scallions
scattered
on your tiles.
Hurry
angel
I get hungry
like a
child

Happy Birthday,
Altamira.
You're a sexy meat that's fine
A T-bone tender
That Cook in your thighs,
I don't mind!
I don't mind!

(extended solo action)

Happy Birthday
Altamira
You are marked
Grade AA Prime!
Some tenderizer,
Some flour pastry pies
would be sublime!
You're just so fine!

Ahem.
Turn up the eagles.
The neighbors are listening.
The neighbors are listening.

Rumble....the graphics for the Guestbook and some of those on St. Al's Banyan Trees site were done by our very own jOker aka Rudy....he's quite the graphics designer and has even done work for the official Steely Dan page.

I like the "let the newbies guess" idea!

lp, do you mean 'Las Vegas' and 'Lost Wages' sung simultaneously? That's what I hear.
I can think of only those 2 instances of the word 'outrageous'.

I may be inspired to work on a GB logo... those are good ideas. If nothing else, we could wear such Tshirts to identify each other at DanFests.

DS(tm), yes that bright yellow is problematic. I wasn't thinking in terms of color. I like your fez idea with the caption beneath, that would be cute.

While we're on the topic of graphics, St. Al, you did a heck of a job designing the header for this GB. I enjoy the photo with Don working the saxophone!

how many times is outrageous used in sd songs, i know off-hand of 2 - show biz kids and black cow (hello to sooutrageous, it's a great namesake).

hey - ideatime - that would be the thing, custom shirts - your gb name on the pocket line/logo area of the shirt, with maybe the letters sis - gb over it -
and again - a top ten list on the back - who's with me? Top Ten Reasons I post on the GB? I'm too tired now to do the list so i'll let those other anonymous posters do that. gotta' go, it's after five here.

have a great weekend - not lurking or working so i'll check in with y'all on monday.

and they'll tell you so....you should know

The yellow "Steely Dan" from Can't Buy A Thrill would be great except I hate yellow and I'm not into "puffy" helvetica. Rumble, thanks for the great input, though, we are talking valuable real estate.

I was thinking of a cute red fez,which underneath says, Everyone's Gone To The Movies, which makes a little visual pun that says "get the propho, time for you-know".

Haven't decided yet, but I don't want any monkeys, chimps or cows on my bod. No Caves of Altamira near any orifice.

The Dan should ideally match my other tattoo which has a heart and the Union Jack and says, Mum. My family is actually British, I'm not THAT into Queen Elizabeth or the Empire for that matter (sorry India, Palestine, South Africa, Argentina, China)Technically I can't get this or any tattoo until she's buried so she won't have to look at the thing.

Herm: Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
We have a Barbecue.
Do you like fish?

how about just "Steely Dan" a la the Can't Buy A Thrill album cover?

Dandom Slut - Wonderfully clever posts! I loved the one about Gilligan's Island and the seven deadly sins; you are most perceptive.

Poor King John - Welcome; I enjoyed your post and I hope to see more from you.

Midnite and Lucy B - I envy you because I hate autumn; I find it so depressing to see all the pretty green leaves die and fall off the trees, and I don't like the cold weather. I feel the cold more than most people: when the temperature is in the 60s, like today, I have to wear a wool coat over a wool sweater to stay warm, and when the temperature dips below 50, I have to wear long underwear. I'm not really comfortable when the temperature is below 80. I think I might join Floridavid and Q in their much warmer, greener state one of these days.

Aja - Thank you; I'm enjoying my new decade. I hope things are going better for you.

midnite cruiser- The lovely fall weather is stretching up into southern PA, also. My wish is to live where it is autumn at least 9 months out of the year. Yes, it is time to pull the AC units from the windows. Already put the flannel sheets on the bed this week. Only problem is that it makes it too damn cozy to want to get out of bed in the morning.

steviedan- While reliving my childhood the past couple of days (like everyone else here), I also thought of National Lampoon. That magazine was a scream. Loved the "letters to the editor". And that one cartoon... The Appletons (I think), now that was one disturbed family! MAD magazine is a must read for all kids. Does anyone remember Quisp cereal? The one with the little martian on the box. Loved that stuff!

lady rumble- I had a couple Kliban calendars and one of his books. "Mousies what I love to eat, Nibble on them little feet..."

clas- Heard one of my favorite Jackson Browne songs this morning... "Here Comes Those Tears Again" and I thought of you. Hope you are having a good week.

poor king john- I too was hesitant to post to the GB. Felt like I might be intruding. But when they started chasing the lurkers out of hiding a couple of weeks ago, I thought "What the hell". Glad I did. I've grown to care a lot for the posters here. Hope to meet some of you fine people someday. As for your list, I didn't see anyone mention Catalyst. A two-disc set of about 30 songs. Most are in a very raw demo stage, some with just DF singing and playing the piano. It very low-key. Like to pull it out when I'm in a mellow mood.

Hope everyone has a great weekend. Will be spending mine celebrating my baby girl's 2nd birthday. Unfortunatly, she's coming down with a little bug. Sucks being sick on your birthday.
LucyB

Corpsy
V
thanks
for
adding
a
surreal
note
to
my
day
!

I think T-shirts would be very cool. So would a Logo, so we all know what to get tattooed on our forehaeads. I am honestly planning for a Dan tattoo--any suggestions?

A good motto for the GB T-shirt might be,"It's like a dream come true". Not clever, or sexy, just sincere. For 2001, it could say, "It's like a dream come true, Hal."

For all you fans out there--Gilligan's Island correlates with the Seven Sins. Match your favorites:

1. Gilligan. SLOTH.
2. The Skipper. GLUTTONY.
3. The Professor. HUBRIS.
4. Ginger. LUST.
5. Maryanne. JEALOUSY.
6. Mr. Howell. GREED.
7. Mrs.Howell. PRIDE.

A little TOO neat and tidy to be a coincidence!

Hey now--on the eve of the New Year, there's a lot of yiddish in the press lately. George W. told a reporter he was kibbitzing with his father, but he pronounced it "kibbutzing", that is to say, " I was building a Commune with my father".

L'shanah tovah, everyone.

Poor King: MIA Becker and Fagen Greatest Hits part 1 and 2. On cassette, has some songs that aren't in the CD version. I can't tell you which ones, I gave my only copy to a Chimp who hasn't made me a copy yet, but I guess 20 years is Industry Standard. These are demos, and feature D and Walt singing together, which is truly awful, but a favorite of mine nonetheless. Get back to me, I'll send you a copy, also anyone else who wants one. No charge. I don't think this is illegal trading because I've heard it was released by someone other than the Dan, and I've heard it mentioned they don't get a %? Is this hoopla? Anyone?

Bullet: I'm a Good Witch and a Bad Witch. I'm a Jewitch. Like Donald," Slow Down,
I'll Tell You When.
I May Never Walk Again...
I Got The Nose...."

Bosom Buddies was the coolest show of all time. Peter Scolari is an amazing actor, it's too bad he lost Amadeus to Tom Hulce, and never became the mega star that Tom Hanks did. Peter did all the juggling, and he rode the unicycle!

Best Wishes to everyone, esp. Aja.

I think that's a great idea! Maybe we could have a collage of us from the 'fests on it. I'd wear it just to see the looks on the faces from people on the street.

Thanks for the kinds words, all. Another thing I love about this place: not only can you feel connected, but you can find a lot of love and emotional support here. The GB can be a wild ride, but I'm glad I'm on it with such great people.

Happy belated B-Day, Altamira-wear 40 proudly!

Aja

I'd hang on the E...

Hi Citizens, one and all.

It's been awhile for me to visit, been on special assignment.

There's a fantastic CD of the Camden/Philly show that's going around -- I haven't listened to anything else - no lie - all summer. Only downside is that it doesn't have Gaslighting Abbie (didn't do that show) and I thought it sounded so good on the PBS show. Why drop it?

LP.... saw your mention of Syracuse U. grads who live in NJ. I don't think you're talking of me but nice to know other Orangepersons are here.

Been working on my bass playing over the summer and we gave Black Friday a try the other day. Using the live shows as a guide, I hear Barney sticking to one note for the verses, E I think. Since we are NOT a 13 piece band with two keyboards, I've been playing the keyboard bass notes instead. Any pointers from players? JW? David in FLA room? I could use the help, we might play it for a halloween parade in my town.

Hoping for a NYC show after the Europe tour ends. Nice idea I think.

Maj©

it's book, guestbook!

"it's a myth, a myth" - best line from The Muppet Movie

yes, a who's who on the pic please.

how about a top ten list from someone as to a saying on the back of the t-shirt from someone? Or, put a top ten on the back of the shirt, sorry dave, I like the lists, it's part of who we are.

The logo on the front pocket area could be -
Sign in Stanger:the Guestbbok
St. Al

Ruby Baby: Guestbook T? Absolutely! I've wondered about this very thing myself. Need a good artist. jOker? Are you listening?

Not My Nancy: Chicks Rule!

StAl

Midnite, thanks for that - are you gonna tell us who everyone is or let the newbies guess?

a blast from the not too distant past:

http://geocities.yahoo.com:80/SunsetStrip/6974/DanFestCollage.html

rumblestrip: no DS9 - never connected, not sure why.

stevie dan - liked very much your deep thoughts of living near where you grew up - i moved away the week after college graduation, Syracuse (go Orange), to the east coast and when I go back for family visits, it's a weird time warp - the local political crap out there keeps me away from practicing my trade there - county government, no way - too big, too forgetful of its roots.....

the frame is out of Glasgow, the tech is Balinese

Altamira, Herm, steviedan – I am a proud cat owner myself (well, ‘owner’ is not a good choice of words). Does anyone remember the Kliban drawings of striped cats? Well, one of my cats looks exactly like that. When he walks quickly he looks just like that drawing of a cat with all the little feet going at once.

Uncle steviedan – hi sweetie, I like the fun fantasy shows but I also like the glib cynical ones.
Like Altamira I noted your mention of Arvo Part. A few years back I was in a group & we sang an Arvo Part piece - the Magnificat. When we were all singing fortissimo it sounded like the whole heavenly host! There is a lot of emotion in his writing. Some cool dissonance and great melody lines.

More TV:
Will and Grace
Next Gen, DS9 & Voyager
La Law
Electric Company
Zoom

lp, no DS9?

next life I’m coming back as Dax

Poor King John, Welcome!
I noticed I was on your list - thanks for including me but I’m not an old timer, I joined the GB in July.
Everyone has made me feel very welcome and I hope you will feel the same!

ygk mentioned Android Warehouse, The Masters, & The Early Years. Note that these contain a lot of the same songs so you may not want them all, unless you are a die hard Dan completist...

This is the best group of people I’ve had the pleasure not to meet. Oh, dear, that didn’t come out right... ;)

Magnificat anima mea Dominum

wormy T....just to echo what JW & Edd said, you can't go wrong with the Roland/Boss units. A friend of mine in St. Louis just sent me the second CD he's recorded in the last two months since he bought a Boss BR-8. He had absolutely NO experience recording and what he's done with this unit is really amazing. The sound quality is great and with the built in rhythm composer he's able to flesh out some cool tunes just recording by himself. MARS has them for $699 brand new. If you can swing it I highly recommend it as a great all in one box.

Looks like a beautiful Fall weekend here in southern Virginia. My favorite time of year.

*fades to black listening to Edgar Winter's "Autumn"....*

sign in stranger,
under the banyan trees,
'cause you know we're smokin'
wherever we are,
no throwing wicker chairs
across the lobby,
please stay in your easy chair,
it is clearly your own,
daddies kiss the mommies
good-bye here- but
we've tired of hanging
with the mayor, now
the mood is always right,
but there is a little static,
cool cities and empty parks....just
let your madness run with mine

Chris you really are as thick as two short planks!.

Chris you really are sa thick as two short planks!.

Mash potatoes and chilly pepperoni cheese, about time we introduced our infirmary, considering the current events and emotoxic wastenots lately
No anonymous nurses in our company, please step out in the limelights if you please, our Colonel WT will phrase the right ritmos and with a pathos our bigger than small band will lead the parade all the way to the Cafe D'Escargot!!!

Nursery rhymes, nursery rhymes!

Corpsy V, clicking heels and tapping away

Something like that, WOW, look what happens if you stay away for a couple of days ...this may not be heaven but I can't say nothing's going on ... have spent the last hour reading, reading and reading. And then I had to take a scroll to the money eating device that says I can cyber on some more ... at least I can really say I buy myself some time!!

Steviedan, thanks for the pony message and thanking me. Again. LOL. Loved reading your neighbourhood stuff and on your bike as in waybackwhen and YES ...w-o-r-d years, really like that!

Chere, not that I really understand what's been going on, but I've missed your postings and firey passionate talks here, hope you'll get back to that mode soon and you know what they say, lessons to be taught and learned so weap and wiggle that willow and find you're own groove again, play some Dan, what's wrong, nothing's wrong. See?

Blaise, unlike you and like Chere I don't mind being openminded or -hearted for that matter ... it looks like I've offended you in a way by being too lightweighted about our Escape Artistry and me leaving the job as your Muse without giving proper notice. I however don't feel I should say sorry, for having shared a vortex I figured you would understand a Muse can't be a-musing forever... I am a proud member of the A Musening Union and we don't initiate a strike or demonstrate when not on solid grounds. Since you and I only collaborated in cyberspace ...
If I'd thought you'd grasp the meaning of a one woman picketline and if I'd had the time to do so I would have considered this option, hell, I would even have painted my own banner saying "senses working overtime" and what would I have risked then, besides being arrested for possession (double sssss-ed?) of XTC?
So, no piece of public humble pie here and no, I don't want the job back, I'm not in that line of work anymore these days!
With a "case dismissed" and a hammer to beat the eardrums in a groovy manner, I'd say, Blaise ... humor has it, humor has it all, can you dig this, amigo? I'm even handing you a spade for free. So drop it now (preferably not in my mail LOL), okay?

Hello there Poor King John, welcome here Under the Banyan Trees and don't worry about posting some and feeling like you're naked and yet dressed in shame for it ... just take that dive and the rest will follow, we're all Danfans here!!

Lady Rumble, they have Mork & Mindy on a commercial station now and I couldn't help but tune in and watch the show ...

And now I'm tired. Oof.
Who's to weave the tapestry of threads given these days, Aja, I believe you have the right kind of magic in your hands here!
Greeting to all, for those who remain in the lurking light (!),
please be the followers of our Poor King John ... we'd really like to meet you ...
Banyan Tree Bow,
Gina

i hate chris, he is dumb.

dave - what did you mean by #7 in your list?

ruby baby, I was wondering when Bowie would make it to the board. I was ape over him in the 9th grade (Let's Dance era) but I really like his 70s glam period better (now that I'm more mature...LOL). It's yet another example of how I missed out during the 70s when all this music was going on, and only catch it years later, nothing here but history but that's ok! Aladdin Sane (the song) is one of my faves. Boy, I really pushed somebody's buttons with that 'leopard' misquote - I did that on purpose, you know. Little did you know you're all part of a bizzarre psychosocial experiment.

Will have to post more later, work beckons.

FanofDan - Hey Al, I'm back after spending most of the week either working or at Olympic Stadium. Got your message, I'll call tomorrow.

Clas - I know China has a minah but a Kaiser?

Cheers all.

Yo y'all - IM very HO...
"Houses in Motion" is the mountain from which the Heads descended, after which Mr. Byrne's ego grew in direct proportion to his stage wardrobe... however their influence is only now really being absorbed... witness Moby and his incorporation of field recordings and minimalist funk, a la 1980's My Life in the Bush of Ghosts' (Byrne/Eno's direct ancestor to Remain in Light) incorporation of a Baptist evangelist and minimalist funk, or Asian, African, or Brazilian trance music that is only now becoming mainstream dance music. The Heads were there before anyone knew what to label it. They gave a pretty good account of themselves live, and some nights they were the proverbial "best band on the planet" (remember, the Dan weren't around). Unfortunately, sometime around 1985 Mr. Byrne began a prolonged staring match with his navel, and a victor has yet to be decided...

Dave - why is #2 always funnier than #1?

"There's not enough night, and too much day..."

tones

welcome poor king john ! worry not one spit. i think that was a DAMN FINE post. it was pure regal. first of all you WAY flatter me by placing me up with all those folks. i should be way down that sucka'. hell, i don't EVEN qualify as a GB oldtimer. i think it just seems that way cause i may ramble or repeat myself frequently and i just type alot and say nothing like you said. maybe it's like dog-years, something like word-years. many probably think that based on that, i should have long since been dead.

as an adolescent, mad magazine & national lampoon were spiritual tomes for me. thanx to either lp or rumble (i forgot who said) for the nostalgic moment. as we get older (i'm 42), those moments that remind us of the feeling of being a child are so rare and precious. i still live a couple of miles from where i grew up and periodically i'll hop on my bike and go ride the same streets that i owned from five years on. talk about doin' some THINKIN' on those rides. it's strange and surreal every time. i'm reminded of old friends or music i'd forgotten. therapeutic and maddening all at once. irresistible. my own "caves".

aja, i was hoping for a happy ending for someone in the fray here but it seems that everyone lost.

talking heads i fall square in the middle. byrne's greatest contribution to music is the luaka bop world music label. never a dull moment on anything in that catalog.

now i don't know about simply red but mark king and level 42 are some funky british mf's. the only album they did with holdsworth was "guaranteed" i think. holdsworth's unlikely foray into anything resembling pop music was due to level 42's acumen and the fact that they shared a drummer, gary husband. for an amazing treat de force, pick up his (gary's) instructional video. he does a live sequence with holdsworth and jimmy johnson (i think), then a duo with mark king that turns into a bass poppin' phd seminar like you've rarely seen. king never breaks a sweat. total natural.

thanx guys for the digital studio 411 today. i'm still using a yamaha qx-3 so you KNOW how cutting edge i am. this is something i've been thinking about. a few years ago i had a deal for almost unlimited studio time in trade for session on-call status. i only did instrumental tracks and i would want to redo 'em all now anyway and work on lyrics i wouldn't hate in the morning. but i knew hard drive recording would come down eventually to where i might be able to afford it. maybe you've heard of my studio. for now it's called st. mary's school lol.

gina, check your mail for a pony express decoder ring.

...we all went hungry just the same.

Poor King John - hey man, welcome. I have a CD that's called "Barrytown". It's old demosongs, Donald on a terrible electric piano, Walter is singing along the best he can. Fun listening to sometimes.

Worm - yes, my poor English is like pain in the back sometimes. I am saying:

I am the Kaiser of China IF that IS good poetry.

The point is; that is not good poetry, so, I am NOT the Kaiser of China.

10 worst things about this GB

10. The stupid top ten lists
9. The stupid top ten lists
8. The stupid top ten lists
7. The stupid top ten lists
6. The stupid top ten lists
5. The stupid top ten lists
4. The stupid top ten lists
3. The stupid top ten lists
2. The stupid top ten lists
1. The stupid top ten lists

Aja - I'm sorry to learn of your bad experience; that's rough.

lp - Thanks. I'm delighted to discover another King of the Hill fan!

http://www.sendmoreinfo.com/id/693598
http://www.sendmoreinfo.com/id/693598
http://www.sendmoreinfo.com/id/693598

i hate steely dan, they are dumb

Wormy ~ Yes, you can mix down from the BR-8 to a cassette deck using the RCA outs...for starters. Expect the requisite tape hiss that wasn't there (in the mix) before, but you'll get a "close enough for rock n' roll" mix. Then, when you are ready to throw down a bit more dough on your rig, run over to Costco and buy a stand-alone CD recorder such as the Teac RW-CD22 with an OPTICAL IN...these are running about $300.00, and you'll have pristine direct-to-digital CD recordings. As far a buying a "new in the box" BR-8 on eBay for $600.00 ~ spend the premium of fifty bucks and buy it new-in-the-box from a dealer...trust me! Get yourself a virgin...

Worm Tom- I'm with JW and Edd...go for the Roland /Boss deal. I'm still a Diehard Cakewalk Guy but, I've been with it since Dos version 3.0...LOL. Digital is the Shit and Roland Corp. has Harnessed it. So slither onto E-bay and nail one.

Aja- ...sending my love there.Chin up!

George JEtson - I'm Captian Beefheart Bat chain pulling ;-)

JWMalibu - that Boss BR8 - there's one new in the box on e-bay for $600. When you dup these out to friends do you then go to cassette? I may be making the plunge. thanks

in reference to the truly cool old timers around here
it's purely admiration on this end

rubybaby - thanks for the joke
I'm more prone to alladin sane, diamond dogs and the thin white duke

wormy

passionate bright young things, lead him away to war

as george jetson!

i went incognito in case the list sucked big time.

thanks wormy, see you tomorrow.

aja, you're on my prayer list.

altimira - do tell how you celebrated your 40th.

keep on truckin' - another bad remnant of the jones generation

don't mess with voodoo or bad poets

Ed, Floridavid and JW - thanks for all the advice on inexpensive home demo ing

no quarter track cassette
looks like I'll have to save some clams and go digital
maybe I'll get lucky on e-bay (hopefully in time for the compilation)

speaking of e-bay - thee's a rare Gaucho poster that's well over $100 right now

George Jetson - enjoyed your top ten and graciously welcome more
Blaise, Dr Wu and I can't have all the fun.

welcome Good King John - by the way, I'm not an old timer here
only been around since last november stinking up the place

tom

in May there's trouble most every night

i'm a hot tramp, but you love me so.

Lady Rumble: You're good! Yep, I was hearing Ziggy Stardust. Bowie is great to have on while unpacking. Also, I really am battling the spiders from Mars. And the ants from Jupiter.

aja: so sorry to hear you've been hit by a bus & run over by a train. Isn't there a song that says something like, "and when you feel the pain then you know you're alive?" Good thoughts & prayers going out for you. Do something nice for yourself. You deserve it!

old shows I used to enjoy (no particular order): Moonlighting, Bosom Buddies, Mr.Ed, Soap, The Smothers Brothers, Hill Street Blues, Dallas, The Dick vanDyke Show, The Ed Sullivan Show, Bonanza, the Saint, the Avengers, the original Star Trek

Clas: That's some damn good poetry, dude! I think I'll start a gb poetry collection. Yours is first.

rb

top ten reasons gb-ers are easily offended:

1) the tower room at eden rock doesn't provide adequate respite
2) torture is the main attraction at the GB
3) buzz is not funny, but you're never through with him
4) frustration of not being able to find the piece you stowed out on avenue d
5) i know your filthy mind
6)you think you've heard this one before
7) another expensive kiss-off is too much to take
8)i'm not the next big thing and it's killing me
9)hard to keep up with the new players in the all new ball game
10)my ego drops daily off with the tide posting here

You gotta walk it like you talk it-soundtrack

Some very cold and unfair accustations have been leveled at me, and there's one I need to clear up here. chere, I thought your words and sentiments were beautiful and I said so. What I meant when I said I was "laughing out loud at this crazy ride" I was referring to the GB experience, not you. I would never do that. Hope you didn't misunderstand me like some others did.

No Voodoo Lounge getaway-instead I got hit by an emotional train wreck. To those who knew this was coming, I should have listened. Time to close this chapter.

The Steely Damned play tomorrow if anyone's in the area.

Aja

I guess i should go into lurking mode because I fit with #'s 13, 11, 10, 9, 8, 6, 4.

hmmmm....not good. I don't like being called an old-timer anyway.

welcome new member regardless from another plebian member of the GB - can I call you gkj? We need another acronym to play with, mine's starting to get too raunchy.

gerry kicks jane
gag kmart jokes
give kruschev jewelry
gorbachov (sp?) kabashes jill (st. john)
guru's kettles jump

gees, i can't even do that well. i'm actually on a roll here at work, if you can dig it - your tax dollars at lurk..........ow, that hurt, didn't it?

ring out the past

Hey Mr. Wormmeister ~

Avoid those cassette recorders like the PLAGUE, bro! Those things went out with the Men at Work, big hair & coke...you gots ta' go digital, my man!

It's no secret that I'm a big fan of the Roland Virtual Studio series...they kick ass, just ask Edd & Midnite Cruiser! Here's some good news, the tech-geeks over at Roland/Boss delivered a new baby at NAMM this year ~ a "Virtual Studio Junior" called the Boss BR-8. It's cheap, it's easy to use, it's all-inclusive, it's "plug-IN and pay", it's portable, and it's in glorious digital!

Here's a url to take a look at the specs:

http://209.144.99.11/PRODUCTS/hardware/br8.htm

The skinny ~

Easy to use 8 track digital recording with 64 virtual tracks(jw: 8 tracks, each with 8 different tracks that you can cull/splice). Automatic routing creates a one button recording environment. Onboard effects include reverb, chorus, multi- effects (jw: same algorithms as the "VS big boys" - the effects sound great!), acoustic and bass simulators, and COSM guitar amp models (jw: physical modelling of MANY classic guitar setups) and a built in tuner. The BR-8 has a built-in Rhythm Guide with tap tempo that will help you to record "in time" all the time plus a Phrase Trainer for slowing down and learning riffs. Add to this a center cancel feature that will allow you to remove vocals. On the back panel you'll find MIDI out, Foot Switch and Expression Pedal jacks, Headphone Jack with separate volume control, RCA line out and line in (right & left) and 1/4" inputs. Optical digital output for connecting to digital devices such as DAT or MD. The BR-8 uses low-cost Removable 100 MB Zip® Disks for up to 75 minutes of track time.

Low, low Sam Ash web price? $695.99! Un-fucking-believable!

re: Worm

You should REALLY investigate the Roland VS series. The price is coming down on them (moreso on used pieces like the V-Xpanded 880) to the point where cassettes are a last option.

No matter how simple you think your needs are today, once you start recording you'll want this, that, and something else. You'll outgrow 4 tracks in no time. Not to mention the money you can save by not using the FX card. Reverb, delays, compression, guitar amp sims, FX, etc. The cassette deck and a decent compressor will push you into the same price range as the VS, and you still won't have the quality...

sure signs you are not, I repeat not, a Guestbook Old Timer

13) people have used accronym son your name for hours when they are bored
12) you've only went a second round in remaster upgrades
11) your contributions to fever dreams all say "I agree wholeheartedly with the last guy on that one"
10) you post on a daily, sometimes hourly basis
9) you make obnoxious jests about one of the babe choir's anatomy
8) you have actually given your fist name or e-mail address here
7) your name is worm and you're regarded by the regulars as a real nusance
6) you didn't own a computer 3 years ago
5) you still wonder "Where's Mt. Belzoni"?
4) you don't own a recording studio, nor have you ever cut a track
3) you've never ran away with Aja
2) you wouldn't know a diamond if you held it in your hands
1) despite several beers with Pete Fogel, you are yet to get backstage

blaise: I know what he's attempting to say. I never claimed ignorance nor do I lack the necessary skills for analysis. It's just a matter of taste, I suppose.

clas: hey, congratualtions on your promotion. I didn't know China had a Kaiser. Make us proud.

Later,

Herm

Poor King John, that was one of the most moving posts I have ever read on this forum and I would be honored to offer any assistance. My attention is yours' when I encounter your posts in the future. I think you will find that the regulars here are not such a closed, crotchety bunch once you get to know them.
Your list appears complete to me but perhaps Hoops, JDUB or St. Al can tell you which albums are missing from it, if any
Stick around awhile. This page can use an infusion of the honesty and beauty your post heralds.

Chere, you know you remain my friend and I'm always here for you.
Steven is dealing with things and I'm sure you guys will talk real soon. If you need me, please email and we'll put something together. I'm going to New Zealand soon but I want to hear from you. You are my ONE & ONLY JUJU PRINCESS!

JMoney made it back safely(if a week late) from Italy. More details about the European Fling to follow.
You've gotta hear the one about soout and the ultra sultry cafe'-au-lait Morroccan jazz singer in Paris! LOL!

Craig

st al - may i welcome good king john to the gb?

this bunch is not shy about analyzing, pontificating, expounding, and having a little fun playing/poking with the question, see renditions of my namesake below - so ask away.

my favorite watch on sd is the lyrics, so you will always get an answer from me at least.

your namesake song, i believe, is a song about the Nixon administration, but my friend, a latin teacher in Maine, says i'm all wet and it's about Richard II or was it the III?

you are missing some live performances, mostly imports. I have a CD import of a 74 show in LA, if you want a tape, just email me off-line, i'm posted below.

We've seen the last of good King Richard

Android Wearhouse
The Masters
The Early Years

Any: The 'w' to two?? (I can't talk)

Blaise, Altamira: I'm not ashamed. Simply Red's Picture Book is one of my favorite's of the 80's. The key was the SOUND: the blend of soul and jazz and Mick's voice (nice vibrato). They drifted in an out of more commercial sounds trading the horns and more acoustic space for overfill. Big sophomore slump with Men and Women - don't bother. A pretty good R&B comeback with A New Flame which features the title track, More, and If You Don't Know me By know. Stars is solid, if commercial sounding with the title track and How Could I Fail as standouts. The best since Picture Book may be 1995's Life...I was looking for my tape (now I'm motivated to run an buy the CD - look at what you guys did). It swings back more to jazz with dance overtones. An intersting, more Dan-like soundscape - very nice. Mick's voice seems to be failing a bit though lately on Blue and Love and the Russian Winter, so I don't have them and can't recommend 'em. Too much dance stuff also. Speaking of Level 42, I read the ALAN HOLDSWORTH joined them for a couple of albums in the early 90s, but have never been able to locate them. May not be available in the States or out of print.

Worm: Thanks

Can anyone tell me what I'm missing?
*CAN'T BUY A THRILL*
*COUNTDOWN TO ECSTASY*
*PRETZEL LOGIC*
*KATY LIED*
*THE ROYAL SCAM*
*AJA*
*GAUCHO*
*TO AGAINST NATURE*
*A DECADE OF STEELY DAN*
*STEELY DAN/GREATEST HITS*
*STEELY DAN GOLD*
*STEELY DAN /ALIVE IN AMERICA*
*11 TRACKS OF WHACK*
*NIGHTFLY*
*KAMAKIRIAD*
*STONE PIANO*
*FORWARD INTO THE PAST*

Hello
I'd like to take this opportunity to introduce myself. My
name is Daniel. My e-mail name is Poor King John.

I bought my 1st. computer 5mo.'s ago and found out about
this web. site 4mo's ago. I wanted to post sooner, but I figured
i'd better look before i leap. And i noticed that there's a selective group of old timer's here. ST. Al...Hoops...AJA...
Steviedan...YGK...L.P. ...Worme'le Tom...JW.Maliba...rubybaby...
Razorboy...Rumblestrip...Miz Ducky... and many other's. But i
also see that there's alot that type alot but say nothing!

I can tell your all very educated, and can sit down at the
key board and say what you want to say. I on the other hand can't. It takes me time to get down what i want to say or in
this case ask! Ask if I could post a question to you's about
the "Dan" from time to time?
You see i've ben listening to "them" now every day for about
22yrs. And i was told by a radio D.J. in virginia many years
ago, that the boy's were very reluse and very,very privite. And
they don't grant interviews and no longer tour!!, So here i was
a 22yr. old kid who just heard a band that made him forget
ever other band he thought he loved. A band that gripped his
soul then and still does, being told that you'll never read
about them or see them. So i sat back and waited, a little tid
bit of information here a bit here, Then a co-worker ask me if
i've ben to the steely dan web. site yet. And now you people!
It's like someone open a book for me and said here you go!
I've offen wanted to ask someone "what in the hell are they
saying here or what do they mean here?" I don't know anyone
that listen's and disect each and ever song like i do, but i
have a feeling you people have and do!!
So i guess what i'm asking is if you see a post and it's
not on the night's subjuct matter, if you could take a min. and
give me your input.
I'd love to post on the subjuct matters at hand but it take's me to long to correct myself. And i don't want to look
like a ass. to this web site. It means to much to me. Your the
#1 fan's of the #1 band in the world!!!!!!!!!!!
and i'd like to be a part of it.

Thank You
Poor King John
P.S. ST. AL and MRS. ST. AL
Congratualtions on the birth of Stella Rae
Don't listen to the post about not hearing a boy's
voice. I have to girls 8 and 13 and they bring me
joy and happinest each and every day.
"DADDY'S LITTLE GIRL"

"Children we have it right here.
It's the light in my eyes
it's perfection and grace
It's the smile on my face".

hello and good morning from the north-easterly coast:

heard babylon sisters on the radio while driving my daughter to ballet/step dancing, she loves to scream out "shake it!"

sure steviedan - do a shalalalala list, loved the other lalala list someone did

a happy belated birthday to Altimira in our nations' capital.

thank you GE, for adding a new personal bookmark, that Jones site is perfect - comments: douglas coupland writes great books, yes - you will not be surprised to knw i had a subscription to both Mad and Cracked, i still read them in the grocery line - judy blume was my top-dog author, i really wish i kept my wacky packs - scooby-do and the electric company were saturday morning faves as well as that banana splits show, who can sing the overture?- i wanted to be mary tyler moore when i grew up and sorta' am, 'cept i did get married - i also liked the ghost and mrs muir and the courtship of eddie's father, not listed on that site - lotsa fun, go to it if you were born in the late 50's early 60's.

dleestan, congratulations on your upcoming nuptials (?) - i knew someone was getting married in here.

mock turtle - i beg your pardon?

fave shows more current/syndication: king of the hill, to the manor born (and most bbc comedies are wonderful, list too long to mention), family guy, voyager (my next life, i'm captain janeway), next generation, seinfeld, frasier, ally mcbeal, the west wing, x-files (scully?), politically incorrect. But i don't get to watch too much of these shows due to a nutty public meeting schedule.

memories of other good shows like northern exposure and twin peaks, st elsewhere (the last hospital show i followed), la law,what else? i guess that's more of an 80's list?

Talking Heads conversations - again, another really good band that's not in the same deal as sd, but still, very good, and at the time in the 80's a step above the Haircut 100 thing going on (i fell for it too, i won't tell what remains in my cd collections today) - my favorite songs are life in wartime, wild life , and nothing but daisies (this was a pizza hut, now it's all covered in daisies) - loved the lines more than anything, but that's what i pick up on anyway, along with the drums, of course.

when getting the house cleaned in a hurry, London Calling by The Clash hits the stereo!

i got more work done yesterday, will try again today.

don't go for that cotton candy

Greene - Yes, I do remember that show--I seem to recall that Pete Duel, who played Jones, shot himself around 1972.

Clas - Thanks. I liked your poem; it gave me a little laugh to start my morning.

Floridavid - Thank you; I love the new job. I like your new name; it's sort of streamlined.

StevieDan - Thanks. I was intrigued by your list of musicians; the only name I recognize is Arvo Part (I have some of his music on CD and the choir at my church sings his pieces now and then), but then I'm new to jazz and still more familiar with classical music. I'll look for those folks the next time I go to a music store.

Clas: I know the Kaiser of China, and you're no Kaiser! maybe a rice picker - and stop pissing in the patties!

Altamira-Happy Birthday my dear friend.Hope this year is a great one with you enjoying you're new Job ,etc.

2 cents worth.
WormTom- Todays Tascam 4-track Cassette recorders and their Ilk are not bad...but the Cassette medium is the biggest drawback.
Getting set-up to record via computer is not as difficult as you might think (I'd be happy to assist).
There should be some decent used gear available on E-bay and the like or at your local Music Store(maybe).
The Sony 4-track/Tascam8-track to Mini-disc is a good alternative also (I'd take the Atrac compression of Mini-disc over Cassette anyday). E-mail me If I can be of assistance.

Posters and Lurkers- Hello to everyone.

for those in the know on recording devices

I am looking to get a small recorder setup to lay out tracks and compose and record songs(including one for the GB compilation)

I have been eyeing the Tascam 4 track cassette machines and was wondering how the 424MkIII (8 inputs) measured up. I'd like to patch in guitar and vocal and even keyboards and a rythym track.
Is one of the cheaper machines (Fostex or 2 input Tascam worthy?)

I've seen a few old analog 8 track reel to reel machines and the digital alternative seems a bit expensive.

I'm mostly just composing and wanting to lay some stuff out for some friends in a band. I could patch in directly or come out of my California Blone amp in mic mode.

any suggestions on recording techniques, gear to buy (even mail order advice), etc. is welcome. ready to do some committing to tape

thanks

Tom

are you crazy, are you high or just an ordinary guy

GreenE: Yikes, I've been pidgeonholed!! And all because I can remember a show called "Alias Smith and __________"?!

Letting the days go by..........

top ten reasons the Dan never cut a new wave album

12) already occupied - mopping the floor of the Custerdome
11) already bedded the entire Runaways, what's left to prove in the genre?
10) they were too busy mocking Abba and Donna Summer
9) they couldn't get the steel drum rythum track down to a nannosecond
8) the studio musicians knew more than three chords
7) the hairdresser refused to give Walt that flock of Seagulls haircut
6) Adam Ant had already said it all, and oh so eloquently
5) It was either Lester the Nightfly or Charlie the steam puppet,
Charlie don't surf and Rudy can't fail
4) the doorman wouldn't let them in to CBGB's
3) inherent rule: new wave bands shall not be named after small household appliances
2) no babe choir allowed - just screeching gutter punk sirens
1) didn't want to have to follow Wendy O Williams and the chain saw onstage

KD kibitzing = idle chatter, comments from the "peanut gallery"

Example "I won't help you change you tire. I'll just stand by and kitbitz."

ah

I was successful I see in spawning a discussion of "Music" of all things on this GB

Herm - pleased to have you here, several posts in a day is indeed a real treat. Waiting for the attack? what attack? I value others opinions and also enjoy stirring the soup, my intention with the Heads post

I can see your fad view, the Heads were a band you either enjoyed or loathed, not much middle ground, and they were dead in the water after Speaking in TOngues. Try spinning Byrne's "The Catherine Wheel"

good to see Miz Ducklet, GreenEarrings, Razor, Mu and others

no the Heads will never be up there with the Dan, but like the Dan they brought a sophistication to the music, a pallate of new sounds, pushed new genres and generally had fun in a cerebral way

so we have some Clash fans here as well, Clapdown indeed
I hear strummer is back in good form

Uncle Steven you are on to something indeed
Dejohnette is one I never tire of hearing
I know "pure jazz" critics had a hard time with the ECM lean
but it certainly has stood the test of time well

Hank Silvers - Cynthia Nixon? the red head on SITC?
maybe I am secretly heavily attracked to her and the gag reflex is nothing but buried affection no, she's yours

Clas - this place isn't Ricki Lake
it's the Springer Show in all it's captivating ways
wait, what's the difference

wormy

you can cut us, you can bruise us, but you have to answer to...
oh oh... guns of brixton

rubyBABY - ooops, I did it again. I'm sorry. And yes, a song.

JW Malibu - the balls are short here (sorry, it's a Swedish saying meaning "we don't have much time", "there's a cow on the ice")but, a song for Stella Rae, that would be great. Sorry we can't sit down together all of us and make it. I hand it over to you, good idea, isn't it?

Altamira - happy birthday to you, you beautiful woman!

Greanearings - thank you.

Aja - this is poetry for Herm:

"We are walking along a dreadful shore

Look! There's a spider and there's a wh... there's a... ööööh

And there's a fish!

Sleeping with his belly up

Probably

Waiting for his coffee cup

To wake him up

Hell, mornings can be bitchy sometimes"

Herm - if that ain't true poetry, I'm the kaiser of China.

C

Ok, I hate that this is my intro after a week off, but, what does "Kibitzing" mean?

wonderin'...

Mu - Simply Red, Level 42... That era wasn't all bad. There's no shame in admitting your appreciation of this stuff.

"Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens"

Herm, it could mean:

No true peace to be found within this realm of events, only in death.
Heaven is not here. It's not the Voodoo Lounge either.
It is not what you've been taught it was. No angels. Nothing.
Heaven is the ultimate shelter from your worries and desires. It's Nirvana. It's inner peace. Dream on.
You won't find it alive.

My take.

"I'm in heaven - with my boyfriend - nothing ever happens"
a description of Nirvana ring a bell, Herm? Zen 101.
Talking Heads, we've all been through that at one point, no? The Mam'zelle says it all, I think.
In this tight-knit "family", there's a soapdish atmosphere. There's dirty laundry exposed, "ob-scene" revealed.
There's that obscure name-dropping reflex too. It's a linguistic purdie shuffle of sorts. I like it...

Roberta Flack, James Brown, Frrrank Sinnnnatra,...

Is there [remasterd-gaucho] cd?
Is not released yet?
Ican't find it.
Please tell me.

it's just more life & love...

alti's b-day ! i like that, generation jones, gen-jones, jenny jones....... NOOO. we're the collective anti-christ ! well happy birthday anyway !

everything minus a few minor details, just as deduced...

aja dear, bon voyage but please come back to us anon.

chere dear, welcome home, we've missed you most severely.

this is our family...

gina dear, you know me oh so well. i MUST prostrate myself again. i shall journey to western union tomorrow to remit but mere currency cannot repay. i have at least one thing by vince jones, i think he had a release through blue note. he's quite a talented singer and i believe he does alot of flugelhorn on the album i have.

rumble dear, those shows that embarrass you so are the VERY shows my kids love the most. they could do it again if they could lose the glib cynical approach and make shows that are great fun fantasy. it wasn't broke until they "fixed it".

lp dear, could we also include SHA-la-la or would that be disqualified ?

(patronizing use of the term "dear" above meant only as a familial phrase to emphasize the loving circle which is the gb... or whatevah.)

now when the good uncles malcolm, clas, AND worm ALL chime in on the subject of a genre of music then good uncle stevie must be onto something. aunts and cousins, listen to the good uncles around the pickle barrel talking vintage 70s euro-jazz. just to list some ecm artists out it's amazing: metheny, burton, jarrett, chick, dave holland, jan garbarek (with manu katche for god's sake), RALPH TOWNER !, carla bley, rainer bruninghaus (album "continuum" awesome), lester bowie, kenny wheeler (album "gnu high" unreal), malc sez steve tibbetts (got to mention "northern song"), old and new dreams, charlie haden, zakir hussain (album "making music" with john mclaughlin, essential), jack dejohnette, new classical series with steve reich and arvo part, marc johnson, egberto gismonti, dino saluzzi, john surman, john abercrombie, bill frisell. alot of this music i have on both vinyl and cd and it was well worth buying twice.

oh family, gather round and stay tuned for much more life and love, here on the GB network.

and i swear to god as i finish this, george benson's version of "the greatest love of all" from weekend in l.a. begins playing and i can hardly hold it together....

First - Belated congrats to our illustrious host
Mister St. Al & Co.
Second - Happy Birthday to the rest of you

Third - Thanks to all and everyone who helped me
select SD wedding songs

I agree canned music sucks, but I think DJ will play:
-Walk Between Raindrops
-Florida Room
-Gaslighting Abbie
-True Companion

Fourth - Talking Heads were almost the real deal

My favorite song by them was "Everyone's Gone to the Movies", a
demo version that surprisingly appears on SD Citizen box set!!

Aja - My,you are staying late! But it is nice to have pleasant people to converse with while you're at work, like the ones you find here.

Robin - Thank you, and I send you warm birthday wishes in advance. I share my natal day with one of my favorite composers, George Gershwin. (My day's gone quite well so far; I just returned from dinner with my sweetie, who is currently lying on the couch playing with the cats; of course, when I sign off, the next step will be lying on the bed playing with me!)

Dr. Mu - I will definitely look for recordings by Mick Hucknall; he sounds like an artist worth seeking out.

Greeneearrings - Thanks for the tip on the web site; I'll check it out tomorrow. I hope they have something about the Twilight Zone; I just loved that show.

Hank - Excellent advice; fortunately, I don't have to go far to find cats to spend most enjoyable time with.

Miz Ducky - I liked that huge, padded suit that David Byrne wore in the Talking Heads movie.

and I'd probably be outta here if I wasn't posting so much!

Yes, Lady Rumble, this is our little house of love here. Everyone knows what's going on with everyone else, good and otherwise, but it sure is nice to be able to check in to our little community when you're working late and just say hi, isn't it? Kinda gives a feeling of being connected while the vaccuum cleaners go by.

Thanks for the well wishes and laughs (good one, Dr. Mu!)

Hermie, I would never kick your ass!

T-18 hours! Do you actually think I'll be able to SLEEP tomorrow night? Or tonight? Call when you get in, sweetie-I'm breathless with anticipation already.

Aja

Altamira: The happiest of birthdays to you! I'll be doing the b-day thing myself before too long--a marvelous time of the year to celebrate, methinks!

Hi Razor Boy, I don't think we've met, since this community is getting so cosy, how about going out for a cup of coffee? I could use one right about now. We could discuss our favourite incarnations of Blackadder (not that I remember it all that well).

Anyway, |||||| = rumblestrip = Lady Rumble, they're all me,
choose whichever you prefer to spell!

I have never met Napoleon, but I plan to find the time

I detect the Ale Supremo
in the Bar at the Top of the Stairs
She got de shapely body
She got de Steely Dan T-shirt
For the coup de gras
She got sooutrageous...

Rock on MizDucky. The Heads have been a favorite of mine since hearing Burning Down the House for the first time at a high school party on the 'fashinable' East side of Milwaukee. Perhaps I just look to far into them but I think some of the lyrics are very cryptic. One of my favorites is Warning Sign.

Herm-Interesting viewpoint. You do make a good case. Perhaps my F*%k the world teenage attitude of the time lends a slight bias to my affection for them. Are you saying that my Members Only jacket isn't in style any more?

How the hell do you spell |||||? Anywho I saw Black Adder on your show list. I've got several episodes taped for whenever I feel like laughing so hard chucks of lung come up. IMO the funniest Brit show I've seen.

Wormy T-though I really dig the Heads, I wouldn't class them with the Boys. Talented, yes; masters of their domain, no.

Razor

My place is good, and it's kind of comfortable in a storm - safe & warm

"Heaven is a place where nothing ever really happens" There's a nice rendition by Simply Red from the Picture Book debut. Mick Hucknall's voice was strong over the next few albums, but the songwriting and production seemed less consistent. They showed a lot of potential with a more open soundscape and recordings like Sad Old Red, Jericho, Come to My Aid and the classic Holding Back the Years. Stars is not too bad (very popular in England) and the remake of the Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes (sung by Teddy Pendergrass) gut wrencher "If You Don't Know Me By Know" showcases Hucknall's Soul. For example the way he strings out "all the thiiiiiiingssssssss that we've been through" illlustrates his vocal ring and phrasing. A critic once wrote that he would pay to hear Hucknall sing the phone book! I lost track, but the last album I sampled seem to indicate that Mick's voice had lost something. Still, it's mind-boggling that Michael DOLTon has far more hits.

Congratualtions to the good poet on being published.

Congratualtions to the bad poets as well. Never give up. I don't want it to seem that I am rallying against anyone who wishes to flex his or her artistic muscles. But, like Lady Rumble said, it takes practice.

Aja, you're going somewhere? I hope it's not out looking for me to kick my ass. Just in case, please accept this as a peace offering:

Roses are red,
violets are blue.
Poetry's difficult
I mean, look at me.

Later,

Herm

Herm, I know what you mean. I've tried to write poetry before with limited success. It takes practice, man, practice, like anything else.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the GB is beginning to remind me of my old school. Small college, everyone knew what everyone else was doing. Not that that's necessarily bad, but it's different - it takes some getting used to, this little community of ours. Well, I might as well jump into the mix and say Aja, good luck on your journey...

Oh Hermie, I KNEW you weren't directing it at me, and yes, there has been some bad stuff here, but the really good poet on this board HAS been published!

These wheels can't turn fast enough!

Aja

Aja: Yes, many people have written poetry for me. Alot of it pretty bad. Sorry, but when otherwise intelligent people try to express themselves poetically, it quite often becomes ridiculous and embarassing. Just like a pair of socks from Grandma on Christmas, you smile, give her a kiss and say thank you. Not to be patronizing, but to expres your gratitude for the feeling they are trying to convey. But I would never then turn around and publish it or put it to music. Personal stuff like that and also what you find on the inside of an anniversary card from your sweetheart is just that. Personal. YOU, understand the meaning and the mushy sentimentality, but when expressed publicly, it loses it's meaning and tends drip into other categories.

Nothing was intentionally directed at you.

Later,

Herm

"So much relaly bad poetry, (as we've been privy too lately), gets interpreted as "deep" because at the core, it's really shallow and meaningless".

Excuse me??? Not for the writer whose gift is to express themselves in this manner, or the object of their desire, privileged to receive such enduring beauty. Has anyone written poetry for you, Herm? I don't know which has more appeal: reading a poem written to oneself the first time around, or coming back to it many years from now. Shallow and meaningless-hardly!

I never did think much of the Talking Heads, BTW.

Really outta here.

Aja

My 2 cents

I loved Talking Heads at the time but felt they sold out after "Buildings". I loved The Clash and feel they flamed out too soon. I was getting into these bands (and many others mentioned) at the same time I was getting into Pat Matheney, Zappa and Mahivishnu (sp?)so go figure.

For Altimira (Happy B-Day!)and those of us old enough to remember when CBAT was new, there is website dedicated to our generation or those of us born between 1955 & 1965. They call it "Generation Jones" as we are too young for true post war baby boomers and too old for Gen Xer's. The link is:

http://www.generationjones.com/files/cafe/home3.htm

They have interesting lists of music, TV shows and Movies of "our time".

I'm still pissed that when I was finally old enough to go to clubs, it was the peak of the disco era. Thank heaven it soon ended.

Glad to see you back Chere.

Clas; finally got a copy of TM I and excellent stuff my friend. You too JdoubleU Mal, Onerooz is very nice. Can't wait for TM II.

Peace all and get some sleep St. Al.

G.E.7

Miz Duckie: Excellent taste! The Clash rank as one of the all time greatest bands. Now there's a group that stands the test of time. My friends and I used to blast "Clampdown" and scream at the top of our lungs, too. I believe an anthem like that has universal appeal. Hell, I even remember screaming, "London's Burning", while driving, and I lived on the southwest side of Chicago. The one that got the most looks, though, was when I'd sing "Homocide", by 999. Never figured at the time that it might be frightening people.

I agree with your assessment that they brought world beats into their music, but many groups at that time were. In fact, for a while it was rather fashionable. The Clash with "Sandinista", the Police, Haircut 100, Adam Ant, Bow Wow Wow, The Specials, and others. It was a different sound, when compared to Michael Jackson, Springsteen and Phil Collins, but it really wasn't anything new. And as far as being existential, I don't know about that. He certainly wasn't blazing any new ground there, either. That line about Heaven never really did anything for me. It's easy to classify anything that's obscure enough to not paint an exact picture as existential. It's also very easy to write those lyrics, too. So much relaly bad poetry, (as we've been privy too lately), gets interpreted as "deep" because at the core, it's really shallow and meaningless. "Heaven is a place where nothing happens". Okay, why, David? Explain it. Oh, wait, he doesn't have to, it's existential.

I'm not jumping on your case, Miz Duckie. I just don't think that Byrne's art school panderings have any purpose other than to mislead and make money. But what do I know? I never walked a step in his big white suit. Maybe he's got a direct line to Sartre, and I just don't see it.

Later,

Herm

Okay, I concede that the Heads are not up there at the top with the Dan. David Byrne and company admittedly had a rather simplistic approach to musicianship, but they did get into a lot of world-music polyrhythms that, while commonplace now, were pretty avante in the '80s). Further, IMO their simplistic lyrics are only faux simplistic. There's a weird vibe of the quasi-psychotic paranoid alienation of modern prepackaged culture that Byrne captured in his songs and performances like nobody else. Examples: "Psycho Killer," obviously. But also "Life During Wartime," "Burning Down the House," "Once in a Lifetime" ... how about the existential dread of a lyric like "Heaven is a place where nothing ever really happens"?

Like I said ... no, they're not up there with the all-round sonic and literary splendor of the Dan, but the Heads got their own little niche worked out quite nicely. To me the Heads's psycho-pop has definitely earned their place in my musical lexicon, right next to such anthems of alienation as the Clash's "Working for the Clampdown" (which I used to blare loud on my car stereo on the way to work on Monday mornings ... )

/the Mam'zelle
letting her punk/new wave colors fly

Herm, I'm with you -- M*A*S*H went on a season or two too long, but at its best, in the early years of the show after Harry Morgan, David Ogden Stiers, and Mike Farrell replaced the original cast, it can't be beat. The last network sitcom I watched regularly was "Grace Under Fire." (What a shame about Brett Butler...) "Roseanne" was mostly pretty good, too.

Another "Sex And The City" fan here, based on the 1st-season DVD rentals and a couple of later shows courtesy of friends with HBO. Have to disagree with the topsoilant one about Cynthia Nixon...she's not at all repellant to me.

Happy birthday, Altamira, and welcome to the 40-something club. I recommend spending quality time with as many cats as possible.

Ole: (Bowing) And you da woman.

chere-your words are beautiful and heartfelt. You are always welcome here-don't ever think you aren't! This just seemed to happen on its own; what lies around the corner, I guess we'll find out when we get there. First stop the Voodoo Lounge-what irony-I can't stop laughing even as I go along for this crazy ride.

steviedan-and you thought it was good before!

Thanks St. Al-this wacky, surreal board has permeated my life in ways I never thought possible when I first posted, oh-so-innocently, asking about "The Second Arrangement". I swear Don and Walt are going to get a song out of this board.

Have a good weekend, all!

Aja

I'm with ya', Social...I thought The Heads were a 'fun' band, much in the same way that Devo & the B-52s were...art students who thought it would be cool to play music....but could they even hold a candle to the likes of SD, Zappa, Mitchell & Todd? Not a chance...

wormy: I know I will get a lot of grief for saying this, but I think the Talking Heads were one of the most over-rated bands ever. They were just okay, and if it wasn't for all of the hype that surrounded them, maybe I'd care for them a little bit more. It's not that I dislike bands that are over-hyped, look at the Dead, or Sting. I just don't feel that they ever lived up to it. Yeah, they brought some new sounds into their music, but so were a lot of other bands, and doing it much better, too. In retrospect, I don't know what they were even all that excited about. "Fear Of Music", and "More Songs About..." are essentially boring records if you listen to them today, and "Speaking In Tongues" is just another 80's dance record. IMO. None of these records has anything to say now, and I feel that is the true statement of whether a record is great ~ do they stand up years later. I say no. How much of an influence were they on music or culture now? I know that's not the greatest measuring stick, but there is a certaqin amount of validity to it. If you want to think of bands in terms of, "the Steely Dan of their time", how about Traffic, (even though they came first), or Sting, or Elvis Costello, or Todd? People we all have been speaking about for the last few weeks. Truthfully, I think the Talking Heads were a fad, part of the fashion of the late 70's - early 80's. Like Member's Only jackets.

Later,

Herm (standing poised, waiting for the attack)

Just thought I would drop in and say "Hi" to all in Dandom. I hope all is well with everyone. La La songs? Oh my god.

Steven- I am glad you appear to be happy and moving on to your destiny- the beautiful "Aja". I just know your rendezvous in the Voodoo lounge will be fantastic and wonderful! (For the record, Steven Fondo is a sweet and perfect gentleman. He has a clean and solid heart.) I shall always treasure the moments we were able to share together and wish you all the happiness in the world. A happiness you SO deserve. I do have a great hope that someday perhaps we will speak again and be friends. I am sorry for any ill feelings and sadness. Thank you for being so beautiful. For taking an interest into my poetry, the pieces of my life and my heart and most importantly, my soul. You are the ONLY one who ever gave a shit. Perhaps someday I will talk with you again. I shall continue my prayers and good thoughts for you and yours. I shall remember and hold onto the blessing and the priviledge to have loved you, and contrary to what you may think, I Do love you. Genuinelike in my heart and my soul. The souldance being probably the most beautiful and magical thing I ever had the priviledge to be a part of. Best wishes Papi. Love Chere

To all- I fucked up BIG time with soout. I wanted to publicly say this on the GB. Sorry is not a word effective enough to express my guilt or remorse. But it is something I am and have been feeling all this time now. I just wanted you all to know and know it was MY fault. ALL MY FAULT. And even worse MY LOSS. I only hope I can somehow be forgiven in SOME way and graced with the allowance of still being a part of the GB. You ALL have touched my life in one way or another. Thanks for that. Thanks from the depth of me.

JUJU Chile' Chere

The Davidson piece has elements of cruelty as does a great deal of humor. Certainly, it is funny. It's not possible to learn the intention of the writer just from reading the text; I jumped to conclusions and I apologize for that.

contemplate and discuss

as more songs about building and food ends my glorious day at work I am perplexed with the following question:

were the talking heads in their prime the "steely dan" of the late 70's / early 80's?

tom

lost my shape, trying to act casual

re: Jaye Davidson: he/she/it doesn't have a problem with transgendered people, he/she/it has a sense of humor! (try it sometime)

Some things ARE funny! You can laugh and be empathetic at the same time, really.

I hadn't owned a television for several years, but a dear friend bought me one for my birthday (I turn 40 today; how exciting, another decade) so I can watch my favorite shows again:

King of the Hill
The Simpsons (Danny Gatton did a great version of the theme song)
The Vicar of Dibley
The Red Green Show
Kids in the Hall.

Jaye Davidson - You seem to have a bit of a problem with transgendered people. Maybe you should see the movie Boys Don't Cry; it might teach you some empathy.

whoever is doing that "Reeling In The Years" parody is outrageous! God, is that lol funny!

Next stop: The Voodoo Lounge (if my Brooklyn charmer can stay awake long enough). You know how things are up on this hill.

Aja

hey JW! funny the other week I rented the first season "Sex in the City" DVD series

yeah it's clever, but not enough to own cable and
I'm afraid I've fallen for the brunette art dealer. Her eyes, that smile and such vulnerability
Well her positive magnetism deserves it's proper opposite
That red head is truly repellant in the worst way

so which of the four would Don and Walt chase?

the tall blonde for Don - a spite fuck, I didn't say that
Walt want's the SJP character if only to influence her column

I'll go now

disc 2 of Stevie is entertaining my neighbors

You've been telling me you're a virgin
till you were seventeen
after looking at your yearbook
i damn sure know what you mean!

The evening at the gang-bang
didn't turn out like you planned
they reached below your beltline
and they found that you're a man!(UGH!)

You spend alot of money
and you waste alot of time
the stint you did in alcatraz
stays with me all the time

After all the frills and estrogen
you're just another man
the 'things' that pass for female
i can't understand!

lalala songs:

la la means i love you- the delphonics
lovin' you- minnie ripperton
horse with no name- america
daisy jane- america
don't you forget about me- simple minds
the night they drove ol' dixie down- the band
i got a brand new pair of roller skares- melanie
those where the days- lennon & macartney, mary hopkins
bobby magee- janis joplin
obladee oblada- the beatles

Current comedies that tickle my funny-bone:

"Sex in the City" ~ very clever scripts...my favorite show, tied with "The Sopranos"...

"Will & Grace" ~ decent scripts, great supporting cast of Sean Hayes & Megan Mullally (well-deserved Emmys for both!)...

"The Tom Green Show" ~ a guilty pleasure, so stupid that it transcends its idiocy...Tom's energy is infectious, and I love watching the "man on the street" reacting to his insanity...

"Daria" ~ a "Beavis & Butthead" spin-off with Zappa-like drollness, and I love how the baby-boomers (Daria's parents & teachers, etc.) are portrayed...

That wasn't me, but I'll say hi, too, since it's such a quiet day out here

LP always denoted a slut where I come from. I don't think I need to spell it out for ya.

Hi Tom, btw.

lp, thanks, I did not realize it was already in the registry, sorry. Here's wishing you free from spam spam spam spam

Shows I still enjoy watching (when/if available):

Star Trek (did have some humorous elements)
Monty Python
Black Adder
M*A*S*H
Mary Tyler Moore
Cheers
Frasier
Seinfeld
Friends

Shows I used to enjoy as a kid/teenager but kind of embarrased to admit it:

Gilligan's Island (ooh, that professor)
Brady Bunch
Happy Days
Laverne & Shirley
Mork & Mindy

with so little tv on in the worm household
hard to pick a sitcom

Seinfeld - if only to be thankful that I'm not George Kastanza
Dream On from the early 90's

what did Walt and Don watch as youngsters?

Walt - My Favorite Martian?
Don - Pettycoat Junction?

they both probably liked the Honeymooners or Donna Reed

wt

they got the right dynamic for the new frontier

i'm sure i will regret posting my off-line address above, it's like giving out your cell #, you always regret doing that - but this is for you ||||||| and anyone else into the New Haven danfest October 20th-ish. I'm having difficulty in being able to stay through the weekend actually. I'm at a conference there for Wed-Friday, which is why I was pushing for Friday night not Saturday. Family responsiblities may prevent longer stays away. So, if anyone is interested in setting this up for either Friday or Saturday, either email me and we'll try to do a group send thing on info, or use the danfest registry, I'm already in there on that list. Are the boys back in New York, does anyone know?

am i myself or just another freak

That would make you either Nurse Able or Nurse Baker ~ two recurring "characters", even though they were portrayed by numerous actresses throughout the years.

M*A*S*H is one of my all-time favorite sitcoms, even though it was not a conventional sitcom in terms of style. While we're at it, what are some of your favorite sitcoms, dear friends of the gb? Others for me include, The Andy Griffith Show, Hogan's Heroes, Dick Van Dyke Show, and Bewitched. Recently, I'd go with Friends and Seinfeld.

Later,

Herm

only a fool would say that

will you wont you will you wont you, wont you join the dance....

lalalalala-ing away, hey is there a lalala list to follow up with the nanana list?

The poncho is the kind you can stuff in a convenient pouch and carry it with you.....it beats emotional baggage, or am i mixing my metaphors?

.....backflipping my verbs, snapping the adverbs, stretching run-on sentences......

keep the parodies going, they are a respite for the weary lurker.

corpsy v - i've been hit! Medic! This place is a M*A*S*H episode, remembering when it was an episode and not syndicated. I'm one of the nameless nurses, not Hot Lips in the early years, thank you.

I feel, with the badgering of my precious namesake, the presence of my older brother picking on me again, it's okay, it's warmly regressive.

to change the subject, i have a lost cd of lou reed playing in my office - new sensations from 1984, it was supposed to be his come-back cross-over-from-the-underground release from his '70's work, but it didn't work out that way - New York put him back on the proverbial RollingStone Mag map - but still, this is a fine release, so dust it off and play it again GB-er's. you can't tell me there aren't Lou Reed idiots like me out there, he's a next door neighbor to SD in the lyrical sense.

My life is boiling over, it's happened once before

it's Leper Messiah

to those who think the world is comical
to those who feel the world is tragic

It's not leopard; it's leper you fool!!!!!!!!!!!

messiah

lp, is the Danfest still on? Please advise on details, or post your email & I'll e you directly, thanks...

hi ziggy i mean ruby baby

lp - Hmmm, that's a good idea. Unfortunately, I couldn't say it because, unfortunately, I'm a little too sensitive so everyone on the face of the earth is capable of offending me. When people apologize for offending me, I respond in one of two ways: a) if they didn't really say anything offensive and I was just overreacting, I'll say, "That's ok; you did nothing wrong; I'm just being touchy"; b) if they did say something offensive, I'll say, "Thank you, but what you said really was offensive," and then I'll explain why; I figure that this will educate them a bit and they'll avoid (I hope so, anyway) saying something like that again.

Clas: You're right - her eyes are mesmerizing! Why don't you try writing a song for her? Even just an intro...

oh, and being a "stay at home wife" is not a cool thing in America. But I forgive you for telling. I take myself too seriously sometimes. You're good for me.

StAl: If one of us comes up with a decent gb t-shirt, and you OKed it, could we distribute? By *decent* I mean something groovy, not necessarily decent.

lp: you're a Lala Palooza!

rb

Is that a real poncho...or is it a Sears poncho?

don't get smart or sarcastic
he snaps back just like elastic
spare us the theatrics and the verbal gymnastics
we break wise guys just like matchsticks

Words St. Al will never hear:

My 4-year old, middle of three brothers, sings the following-

"I got no sisters....SHAKE IT!"

there's no one to fire upon

are you reelin with you're peers
thinking that your so fine
as your lover slowly jeers
where'd he come from, unrefined

lapless permutation
languid perhaps
laughing perceptively
longing perpetually
listless predator
loud prediction
liven paramecian
loveless poetically
lousy possibilites

Don't you know
There's fire in the hole
And nothing left to burn
I'd like to run out now
There's nowhere left to turn

Your everlasting hard on
you can see it fading fast
so you grab a piece of someone
and you get your jollies fast.

Well you wouldn't even know a G Spot
if she gave you detailed plans
the things that pass for nookie
i can't understand.

LP=
Licentious Predator
Lascivious Pedophile
Lucid Prognosticator
Lurid Premeditation
Lazy Procrastinator
Loquacious Pygmie
Living Permutation
Luscious Pussy
Lithe Poetry
Libertine Posse
Limpid Probe
Luminescent Pink
Languorous Piece-of-Ass
Lima, Peru
Lolita's Period
Lengthening Pole (Sorry Tom!)
Leaving Prison
Last Piaster
Lycanthropic Predilections
Liar's Preface
Lambasting Pricks
Lasting Peace

no problem wormy, i'm lamenting the windmills of my day here....hey does that count as poetic?

is it too simple to discuss what cousin dupree looks like? probably a little like a guy i went to college with in Syracuse from New Jersey, with my luck he's a poster here. If you are, sorry for everything i did - i was young and quite foolish. there, now i feel better.

off to meet with the powers that be.

signed with kisses resting just off the side of the cheek,
Anne de Siecle

ah come on lp
I was merely playing with you

I enjoyed your "offended line"

as for

my fav backhanded compliment

"My, Your younger than you look"

oh well, off to dreamsville

t

she serves the smooth retsina

I'm way deep into nothing special

"I wear the wool pancho,
and turned over denim shorts,
looking like Raquel on Andy's wall in "Redemption".

I cower in corners
watch Dan characters maze thru their freedom
holding onto secrets to lurid to mention."

She loves to limbo, that much is clear
She's got the right dynamics for the new frontier

good morning, I've had my coffee and i'm really going to try to get more done today off this line than on, which should make you all very happy.

Wormy - thank you for the back-handed support, like i don't get enough of that in my day in world politics here. help me corpsy V, i need medical assistance at once! I'm goin' down (no wait, i shouldn't say that should i?)....

btw - favorite comeback to someone saying i'm sorry if i offended you?
.......you couldn't possibly.....
i've used it many times and it usually takes a few days for the receiver to get it.

I actually enjoyed the play on what lp might stand for by unknown sources, wicked lol at my desk this morning. lotsa peperoni is a good one as was lancaster pennsylvania and liquid paper.

Lucid Pipes
Lofty Pumpernickel
Lost Paperbacks
Loose Papers
Languishing Postings
Let's Procreate
Little Poptarts
Lyceum Party

enough! - that's what i get for posting in a hurry.

gaucho amigo has a wide striped wool poncho with a big out-of-scale stupid hat on, thick gold jewelry, a puffy shirt buttoned down to there, a dramaticized mustache, and high heeled cowboy boots and wrangler jeans.

top speed, boys, gets you no positions.

i too, brutus - think the re-mastering gig is just that. i have not bought into it, literally, except for Dark Side of the Moon pruchase, but i just couldn't help it.

david in the florida room and green earrings - the Jay Leno reference floored me, how about you? sorry for spamming, but the 2 lists i got yesterday were pretty good.

mad dog surrender

Hey, I had that Tuesday Weld in mind yesterday when I posted, couldn't really find a reason why I should mention her, nothing in the archives of my mind that could be linked, but what the heck ... fun it is finding her posted anyways LOL

Anticipating thinking ahead what would Steviedan want:
Hi Stevie, I just returned from the post office where the catalogue has found a cosy corner next to a stack of fanmail for Britney ... those rookie envelopes now shiver with respect for this catalogue that so hansomly will crush them spearsed out of the plane! you'll be happy to find an american address in the back of the catalogue ... you'll see when it gets there!!

WB & DF should get in a studio with their Orchestra and perhaps do some covers of long forgotten little masterpieces ... with a dannish twitch ..some jazzed up or down beat mancini whatever, they had something cooking on stage, would be a waste if they didn't continue in some way!!!!

JW Malibu, how about a Stella Rae tribute already on the compilation?

Anyone btw familiar with an australian singer/trumpetplayer named Vince Jones? He sings real refreshing melodies, like a trunpet line, for the vocalists here a treat to listen to and perhaps try out for themselves ...

The Dutch are performing well on the Olympics Down Under.
That's what triggered Vince Jones ...

Gotto go now, bye everyone, Banyan Tree Bow,
Gina

Perhaps the Nightfly is ready for a remaster

spotted it at TOWER yesterday in the $7.99 racks, even featured on the display

they did the same treatment to Gaucho a few months ago and all the old stock has sold

Stevie Dan - Do you remember the album Gary Burton made with Keith Jarret? Back in the 70's. Great one.

I remember a glittering piano-intro on a song called, I think, "In your quiet place".

Featuring: Gary Burton (vibes), Keith Jarrett (piano, electric piano, soprano sax), Sam Brown (guitar), Steve Swallow (bass), Bill Goodwin (drums).

Tracks: Grow Your Own, Moon Child / In Your Quiet Place, Como en Vietnam, Fortune Smiles, The Raven Speaks.

Featuring: Gary Burton (vibes), Keith Jarrett (piano, electric piano, soprano sax), Sam Brown (guitar), Steve Swallow (bass), Bill Goodwin (drums).

If you don't have that one, go buy it, it's a must.

Cara Mia - and who are "we"? Have you had a meeting or something? You and that anonymous poster?

For christ sake, don't be anonymous, stand up and be counted.

KD - thanks for email.

C

"Basketball Performance as a Function of Scores on Profile of Mood states," R.W. Newby, and S. Simpson, Perceptual and Motor Skills,vol. 78, no. 3, part 2, June 1994, p. 1142. The authors, who are at Tarleton State University, Stephenville, Texas, report that:

The results suggested that the basketball players'
performance was disrupted by a negative mood.

Dr Wu - enjoyed your "Hey 19 from the Hood"

if top speed gets you poll position

what does top speed with endurance and a nice slow embracing afterburner get one?

StevieD - ah ECM, that company that Windham Hill sought to emulate I suppose we are talking vinyl as well
A-M or N-Z tough choice

My electric girlfriend shares me with no one
she does like to be fed new things from time to time

lp? this attack is lamely pathetic
wait, I'm actually sticking up for her?

wormy

the weekend at the college

steviedan: that ECM thang is truly, truly rich. Every single disc is a multiple reference for others of usually most of the players....everyone seems to plays on everyone elses record. Of course there were Metheny records, a few Keith Jarretts - has anyone even attempted to dupe Weber's sound? I'm a big Fan of Steve Tibbetts "Safe Journey", "Exploded View" and one with Knut Hamre. Also love Terje Rypdal stuff.....
It seemed that most of the recordings I love were done in this one room in Oslo with Jean Erik Konigs-something recording....there's sooooo much beauty and space in those recs as well as timeless music....glad to see your mention....

ygk

All night long
We would sing that stupid song
And every word we sang
I knew was true

entire post, left out most of the dan CONTENT.

should i put it into poetic verse ? forthwith ?

NAAAHHH too tired so here's the prose-ac.

gina the next dan project ? i still say that seemingly, contractually speaking... a donald solo thing would be next ?

remaster the nightfly ? my experience is that most warner early cd's could use some remastering but they are painfully slow and occasionally even stealthy (witness eagles remasters) about upgrading. they'll sell out the stock they have before one will be seen.

make no mistake, in the audio world there will NEVER be a final master. they want us to back jack, buy it again...

... about the music collection. no, actually what she really says when she wants to mock-threaten me: "remember, A-M" or if it got really bad "N-Z". that would include all jaco and dan. with her, the kids, and "N-Z" gone i would have no reason to go on.

ole: no... thank YOU. totally my pleasure and honor. i now stand corrected so... er hank... i still want one (sound of panting dog here) LOL.

the albums that vibist gary burton made with bassist eberhard weber on ecm records in the 70s were/are still masterpieces. particularly "ring" and "passengers". "ring" has both metheny & mick goodrick on guitars. metheny is all over "passengers". ecm jazz like this would be agreeable to most fans of the dan-sound i would think. that's why, today i designate them steviedan hall o' famished album(s) for the rest o' the week. collect 'em ALL, compulsively if need be ! well, if not ALL, at least "passengers". and speaking of eurojazz...

to my Ste. of Jazz EU-style, ste. gina, thanx again so much. if it is NO trouble for you to mail the "jazzed" (i love that !) music catalog, i will be sure to include some extra postage $$$ when i get the "check in the mail" to you. appropriately, i'm going to let some of the proceeds from tomorrow night's gig provide the capital. music provides and we must put some back into music...

and that's what i always tell my wife...

St Alphonzo/Pat Beemer:

I am scrolling down the GuestBook and I am reading my infamous, stupid post, about murder and John Lennon. In the context it looks awfull, it looks ugly, it looks like the devil.

At the time I didn't realize that it was YOUR day at the GuestBook, it was your FAMILYS day, and it was the beautiful Stella Rea's day.

So, of course I had to crash in and go way over the citylimits. I am truly sorry for that.

I am truly sorry and I beg for forgiveness.

Clas Lundkvist

Hey blessed Mormon: Are you a good witch or a bad witch?

You owe us all collective intellectual head.

Your choice of Phish, Cow Palace 1994 double tape set or Captain Jack's Pirate Gold, the gum that makes your teeth turn black or a designer,scented blue trashbag (kitchen size), or 1 junior band-aid from the 70's. Your choice. Postage will be paid. Good luck and may the best winner win. Aja and Cara Mia decide winner, cause they're both babes.

large package?
lily pad?
love potion?
lousy produce?
lengthy production?
leprous postule?
lovely prostitute?
lavendar posies?
leather pants?
lyrical poems?
licky puppies?
lame paupers?
lurid poses?
liquid paper?

lp=luckless pedestrian

Lancaster, Pennsylvania?
Long Pipic?
le Petit?
Labour Party?
landscape painting?
London Plague?
Lil' Pardner?

lp -
limp penis
lofty platitudes
long playlist
limp penis
limited potential
laughable poetry
limp penis

just a few suggestions. what do I win if I'm right? if I had the choice, I'd pick -

lotsa pepperoni

Also I thought it would be brown.

Doesn't LP stand for Loose Pockets?
Lay Person?
Last Place?
Los Pagua?

Hey Everyone,
I got a catalog today, adressed to the Osmond Family. Everyone who's been to my condo knows that must have been a tight fit when they lived here previously. All I know is that the Landlord said the last tenants were religious freaks. He saw the Dan at the same show I did, 'cept I had better seats and met way cooler people. He had someone throw up on him.

Anyway, it's a leather catalog and they sell ponchos!!!!!
But they're not spangled. I can't see spending $200 on something not spangly.

The real dilemma is this--do you picture that Gaucho Amigo wearing new black leather??? I always imagined it being sort of beaten-up and oilstained, like me.

Assuming reality is not a factor, how would you want YOUR poncho to look? What about our Amigo?

Nice site. I welcome email from Dan fans; especially in Southern WI and Northern IL. Will consider purchase of origional albums in excellent shape and posters in any condition w/ pic. Also, to a previous contributors to the guestbook; does "lp" happen to stand for Loss Prevention?...

Puff Daddy reminisces:

I was in heaven in '67
We were chillin', you were willin'
I was Dandy for your candy
Now you left this homey aloney, what baloney
Slummin' in Boston
Moved to Austin, got an Austen
Where's my crib? Women's lib

Yo Nineteen, stop ya tawkin'
Take a walk in, last romance, cop a dance
Too old for my plans
But slide your Visa card down

...I'm under heavy medication - next verse later...

Worm: top speed gets the poll position

lp - you weren't around this spring when every day or so we were doing full song parodies - I promised I'd spare anybody a full song's worth back then so had to restrain myself

I think Ole still has a bunch of them on her Fever Dreams site

you would have enjoyed Salt N Peppa doing Babylon Sisters

poll pole what's the diff?

one a politician likes to ride high and the other...

wt

the fix is in

now i forgot what i was going to say -

good night folks, and i won't write any more office poetry, so sorry...

and i'll figure out a way to get spell check in the posting boxes here.

going home to sleep.....zzzzzzz...z, where have you been?

love is a many splendored thing....

wormy: lol-big time on the puff daddy thing, classic! i have still not receovered from black cow sampling allowances, hope SD got rewarded for that one.

i liked my rain poem....hey, it's been a while....

a cry in disgrace

Hey if I kissed Miss Vicky my pole would go up too

DR Mu

Dear Texas friend, enjoying this "finally here" cold front, are we?

you wrote

Worm kisses Vicky, his poll goes up

are we assuming this is my "popularity "poll" here at the GB?"
that it would take a true meteoric rise?

are you saying that if she was actually to acknowledge me that I would somehow gain credibility with my fellow GBers?

impossible, I'm merely a meek and lowly worm

Yes it was New Frontiers not IGY on the video nod, sorry

poetry on the GB, hey we have more than enough pleasant things that are not directly SD material - why not enliven it all with a little onboard cyber romance, une histour l'amour

R&R HoF - who would induct Steely Dan? Puff Daddy after he covers Deacon Blues for his next rap album???

"I be Deacon, what you thinkin
Expanding Manster, fellow slap my handster.... sorry I'll stop

the battle of the dueling poets won by sooutrageous, as always.

Now where is that funny Voodoo Lounge list?

On the CD right now: "Revival" by the Allman Bros. Going with the chorus right now-those of you not into romance start scrolling now ;-)

Love is everywhere! (and it isn't even spring; banish the rainy day thoughts, though it does bring out the good poetry). cara mia-check back in when you come up for air ;-)

Aja

it is raining outside my window
of crinkled glass
thoughts of black boxes with handles
and easels in metal
sscchhhh under the wheels
going home

as long as they play til dawn

Gore kisses Tipper, his poll goes up
Bush kisses Oprah, his poll goes up
Worm kisses Vicky, his poll goes up

Finally, 64¡ the past 2 days and now I've got a freakin' GI virus! Damn, I never catch communicable stuff in the fall. Just look at that sun and blue skies out the window - arrrrrrgh. Back to working on forms. Misery loves company... turn on songs about barely legals, the neighbors are listening...

top ten reasons this GB can't handle poetry

13) fell for StevieDan's record collection, it's high maintenance, but not too moody
12) we prefer the opposite of an ariel view, hard to compose with the straps on
11) almost anything looks moving on that pastel yellow background
10)too busy disiphering obtuse SD lyrics about disfuntional femme fatales
9) infatuated with babe choir darling - can't muster up anything audibly sensible in her presence
8) afraid someone will run away with them, sight unseen, to a glamourous locale - no, not Binky's Place
7) St. Al might get upset and can trace you on e-mail for public display
6) as if petty phonetic games weren't enough
5) internet postings can't use odd typewriter indents and line spacings ala e.e. cummings, sorry not full expression
4) once stole Green Earrings poem and was called on it by the luscious object of one's desire, can't Do It Again
3) wine and kerosene do not mix
2) no it's not "this is the day of the expounding man"
1) lurking pedestrians have a little of the fun, don't they?

||||| - I never knew about whether there are other video releases from The Nightfly.

How can I get a copy of the video on New Frontier, does anyone know?

lp, lurking somewhat anon. - need to get productive, recovering my last evening's performance, can't believe I get paid for that, what a country.

an artist, a pioneer

That address should have been:

www.greyowltutor.com/study.html

I've got to have
Some time in the sun

what i am
she shall abide
from longing touch
through time and tide

love is love
else otherwise
we deign to love
not to despise

all i am
she shall receive
at longing touch
she doth believe

Altamira - are you kidding? I don't think we need to worry about an apostrophe here or there - sorry St. Al, but it's said 'Sign in wont you?' ever since I can remember...

Aja - my poet-friend has a newsletter, he sends it out regularly (I know it's not personalized but at least it's poetry): www.greyowltutor.com. There should be instructions on how to subscribe.

Brubeckian Nightfly/IGY video? Ah, wish Id seen it

There's a room in back with a view of the sea
Where she sits and reads
Does she scroll past me?

when all my dime dancin is through
I run to you

I like variety so I'm with the keep posting, cheeseball or not, scroll past if you don't like it crowd. Although some of it is making me damn uncomfortable (steviedan, I hope you're laughing. I'm trying to-my God, how did I get here?).

cara mia-you go, girl! I am so happy for you. Bet you're not listening to much Steely Dan, are you now? ;-)

Wonderworm-thanks for the postcard! That was so sweet.

Speaking of sending poetry via e-mail, there was none today :-(

Aja

Well I can't wait 'til I move to the city
'Til I finally make up my mind
To learn design and study overseas

how does one re-master a master?

discuss amongst yourselves....

on the video for the nightfly.

I recall New Frontier had a video.
Using Jetson-like animation
To convey the fifties feel. Nice.

speaking of the Nightfly

any attempts to Remaster it?

I know it was recorded DDD
and has the most stellar audio end

in fact The Nightfly was one of the first serious contender audiophile recordings during the CD transition,
I remember the old Green CD Review going totally ape on it

wasn't there actually a video of IGY?

sorry to have dated myself

pardon

wt

when the nights are bright and joy is complete

Just had a fit of Nightfly reverie.
It's a chronic thing.
Sue me.

Damn, sitting here and editing all day is doing something bad to my writing! I just noticed that I put the apostrophe in "isn't" in the wrong place.

Bullet with Butterfly Wings - That is some bad poetry, is'nt it? I think I'll take Worm Tom's advice and scroll past it; I don't need to read something that will annoy me.

||||||,

Extremely rude? I think not.
It's the truth, but some
refuse to see it.
Wait and see.

high in the Custerdome

Two can play the lyric game, mystery gaucho-man.......

There'll be pentium sockets, one for everyone
What a beautiful world this will be
What a glorious time to be free

I asked rock and roll hall of fame what's up with the induction process and this was their response.

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the induction process to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The induction categories and criteria are as follows:
PERFORMERS: Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.
NON-PERFORMERS: Songwriters, producers, disc jockeys, record executives, journalists and other industry professionals who have had a major influence on the development of rock and roll.
EARLY INFLUENCES: Artists whose music predated rock and roll but had an impact on the evolution of rock and roll and inspired rock's leading artists.
SIDE MEN: This category was introduced in 2000. It honors those musicians who have spent their career out of the spotlight, performing as backup musicians for major artists on recording sessions and in concert. Though they often play a key role in the creation of memorable music, the public rarely knows them by name.

On the Dead/MP3 thing: there was a story on NPR last evening about how the remaining Dead-band is very upset with the MP3 thing and are joining hands with Metallica in fighting people's ability to download free music. The reporter commented on the irony of the Dead joining in the fight since #1 they allow taping of their shows (dead-heads remarked that it was different than free studio music) and #2 her more editorial comment was "what would Jerry say", i.e. if the Dead were starting out now with this techncolgy, wouldn't it have made sense for them, given their attitudes, to jump on the "free music for all" bandwagon. Great story!

what a beautiful world this will be, what a glorious time to be free

StevieD--Thanx for the shelter from the storm, and for the arresting combination of ambient tunes. You don't know what a kick it was for me to hear "Medical Science" in a public place. You work in Paradise, as far as I'm concerned. One correction: the comp was by our own inimitable Hank Silvers. He's da man.

Thanx also to Tuan, David, and Ginny for their generosity and fun quotient.

fezo--oh shit. I clean forgot. Sorry. When I get back, the Clash is in the mail.

I dunno, I think induction into the HOF will be a fine thing. The museum may be an urban renewal project, but I visited and was captivated by the power of the music to shape culture--it's not just a bunch of drab, musty artifacts (though there are plenty of those), but a vertiginous glimpse into the artists and the times and how they change us.

hey haven't checked the sstranger lately - what's going on?

jk

things you can do with wine and kerosene

10) not that kind of whine
9) watching his bridges burn with a 96 Cabernet
8) fearsome excavation no more
7) why pray like a Roman when you can toast and roast to the occasion?
6) burn in hellfire for such lacivious thoughts about Miss Cave
5) don't know, mine was kitchen clean
4) don't forget to invite Good King Richard
3) fine if it fits in the back cubby of the Kama, snake hips needs plenty of room to stretch out up front
2) as long as it's languid and bittersweet afterwards
1) make the traffic interesting and highly flammable

darling it's you

Since May
There's trouble most every night
Where once we danced our sweet routine
It reeks of wine and kerosene...

top ten things left to do in the year on the Dan

10) retain backup babe choir for 01 excursion,
contract involves severe intraband clauses
9) find Chris Potter's phone number
8) now that we have Pengo Power, how do we effectively harnass it?
7) hire Alexander Haig to lead amphibian assault planning
6) watch young flexible women perform on uneven apparatus, decide which bait needed
5) those damn Gaucho liner notes, I thought you wrote them
4) pay a visit to Madame Erzulie
3) dust off the Rhoades
2) go back and try to salvage those Katy Lied DBX tapes
1) let the lessons of the road manifest themselves in song

Hi Gina.

Whoever it was who sent me the link to the Stella and mother pics, thanks! So great, those eyes.

StAl - Filthy Towels to you!

C

Hi there Banyan Tree Guests, just popped in to get some studying done for this auction thingies, but internet just a few steps away, can't help to check this out!
Hi Stevie, so you've finally received Breuker, they sent me a catalogue with all kinds of "rare" jazzed music, if you want it I can send it, most of it should be available in US as well I believe!

Stranger, I was inspired by this very GB and the people that posted here, I kind of found my way back I guess. Now I'm going forward and it's the only thing one can do if you grant yourself something good in life! It took me years, though, it clicked and the time must have been right, that's how this stuff works ...
Balance intuition and sheer common sense and when it's your turn this leap of faith will work your ways ...
But the GB was my first step back into a world that was mine after all!

Clas, someone else put us together in one sentence, I can't recall who that was. As European inhabitants we're neighbours, sort of.

Nice reading, btw. First I read and then I post and sometimes I just don't post at all.
Have to go, Banyan Tree Bow,
Gina

PS. What's next to expect from WB & DF .. now that the Tour is over & done with?

boy to have missed the Raliegh get together
next time, excuse me, next year I will definitely be back for more when the Dan roll through, might even fly to avoid the tiring car trip(I may even have a legit up front seat there Steven)

So StevieDan turns on the affiliated to obscure and enlightening jazz discs, oh to have been that fly on the wall of SchoolKids Records, I am sure Ole, Amy, Ginny, and Lisa didn't disappoint either

As for cheeseball protagonists - toleration in moderation
and if it's too sappy one can always scroll
I promise, none of it was me. Romance is in the air, no?

a month or two off then book another studio

tster

I'm left standing here, I have nothing to say
all is silent within my dream

honored to have hosted a small yet intense raleigh mini-afterfest. thanx to david, ginny, and of course oleander for decorating our monday night at schoolkids records. extremely bad weather kept a few of our "weird regulars" away tonite, but not enough to spoil the mixer. many danfans in absentia were invoked in spirit and anecdote. worm, your seat jockeying skills are officially part of danlore for all time. we looked back awestruck. ole provided some excellent auditory ambience with the JAPANESE version of 11 tracks which has 12, a metzger comp (andy i want one !), and some 2VN before closing. some of my kids filled in with mingus dynasty, fishbone, and einsterzeind neubauten (i know i can't spell that, but it is german industrial music by guys that put images of dead burnt cats on sticks in their videos. it's not as bad as that sounds though). all participants made tasty purchases demonstrating the musical acumen of danfans and i thank them for that as well. if you missed it, you missed IT. and we missed YOU.

i can't believe i have the audacity to do this, but i am going to speak for miles dewey davis. miles, please forgive me but i know you would want SOMEONE to do it. here goes...

(gruffly) FUCK the rock n roll hall of fame. why do i need THAT shit ?

i think that's what he'd say verbatim.

SD also has and always will transcend mere "rock 'n roll". no "rock 'n roll" hall of fame could be built tall enough to house artists of this calibre.

my vote is for the "pseudo-poets" to keep the "cheeseball shit" coming. i think i've almost got this thing figured out and it's better than general hospital and one life to live combined ! (lol of course, not to cheapen the situation or participants... all apologies). my policy is as always: USE US. what do we have to do ? we're here aren't we ? such is the history of mystery.

But I like romantic sagas...

it's the nasty break-ups best saved for Jerry Springer that we can do without.

cara mia, signing that HOF petition before I leave the country
with the most wonderful man to come down this Net-pike

Why don't you pseudo-poets write cheeseball shit to each other DIRECTLY IN EMAIL? Do you think for a split second that anyone here cares to be exposed to your romantic saga?

I think I'm gonna chunder.......................

what you are
i can't abide
reflections in the mirror
what words can't hide

the 'love' you profess
love without life
love you abused
love to despise

your hollow words resound
for all to read
your shame within
for all to see

do you think she's fooled?

The post below (from Tyler) refering to a Steely Dan article, is nothing but an interview with a very boring SD cover band from New Jersey. Nice try though.

CD

There is a new interview with Steely Dan on the new worldwide information website: www.themestream.com. If you log on, just put the author's name, Rex Rutkoski, in search box.

Herm - Good to see you back! I hope your next post is a bit longer, though.

OK, lp, I admit I just wanted to profess my admiration for Miles. I really agree with you, you can't call it R&R. But I don't know about SD. They are definitely not pure jazz, nor are they pure rock. Yes, they're probably laughing about the whole thing. Nonetheless, because rock is a part of what they do, and do it a hell of a lot better than the others, I think they should be included in the Hall, silly as the whole concept might be. It matters not in the great scheme of things; Mister Steely Dan will still be there no matter what.

Interesting story at Inside.com:

http://www.inside.com/story/Story_Cached/0,2770,9877_9_15_1,00.html

One quote: "...the Dead are working on setting up a company that would ''potentially, eventually,'' make its 2,500 tape vault available via digital download, says band spokesman Dennis McNally.

At the point where sound quality of MP3 files reaches an acceptable level, the band will begin selling them directly, he says, potentially a lucrative new revenue stream for the site and the band."

The difference here between the Dead and the Dan, of course, is that taping is legal at GD concerts. It should be interesting to see how it plays out. Stay tuned...

I don't let my 7 year old use it, so why should I?

Back to grammer-world, will check in after my agenda-laden public hearings are out to see who my comments have charged up.

lp, humbly

I see a little siloetto of a man
expanding man, expanding man
can he do the Dan fan go

thunderbolts been reelin
get yourselves some Steely... please

look |||||||, I am absolutely a huge fan of Miles Davis, but is he really part of the rock and roll genre - just what is rock and roll, then? I suppose you could make a sound argument of his influence on Beck and other underground musicians of this past decade. But, for instance, David Brubeck, he is my favorite jazz musician, with Miles Davis soon to follow, but they are #jazz# musicians, not rock and roll artists.

I almost feel like SD is a little above this proverbial "rock and roll" thing anyway, except for the stunning fact they have had an incredible influence on now, sorry guys, 'generations of musicians', which is remarkable. But how can you categorize them as simply rock and roll musicians? At this point, of being nominated and turned down so much, they must be laughing at the whole nonsense.

The whole r&r museum thing is really an urban planning ploy to bring annual ceremonial national attention to a city trying to re-define itself physically and economically, and it's worked for them obviously very well - I mean the crowds that come to the induction cermeonies, ca-ching, ca-ching, baby.....it's like vying for an olympic city, every planner/economic development director just froths at the concept and says to their mayor/ceo - you know, we should really go for this.....

It's like the grammies, what's up with that cast of winners? It's called television advertisment space. Don't get me started!

we've got to have some music on the new frontier.

Miles Davis,
Miles Davis
& Miles Davis

and Aerosmith & Queen

There is a new interview with Steely Dan on the new worldwide information website: www.themestream.com. If you log on, just put the author's name, Rex Rutkoski, in search box.

"13) Come on Don, go ahead and sing Freddy Mercury's parts with Queen with a fur, boa and wig"

LOL This I'd like to see!

On Green Earrings:

Nice ultrahigh guitar lick at 2:06!!

‘The rings of rare design’ – wish I knew more about chords because there’s something wonderfully tricky about how that progression resolves

It’s a rather psychedelic little number isn’t it (mellow mushroom indeed)

List of HOF nominees

JAckson Browne, MC5, Gram Parsons, Iggy and Stooges, Patti SMith, Miles Davis, Aerosmith, Lou Reed, AC?DC, Solomon Burke, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Paul Simon, Black Sabbath, Carol King, Queen, Bob Seger, Chicago, Dick Dale, Dells, Michael Jackson, Flamingos, Brenda Lee, Kraftwork, New York Dolls, Willie Nelson, Gene Pitney, Donna SUmmer, Tom Waits, Ritchie Valens, Ojays

ICONS and Trend Setters Iggy MC5 and New York Dolls
granted every rock critic who ever wrote wore their albums out to the core - nomination

Gram Parsons - Country roots rock link - died too young
but really HoF material? He only played on one Byrds, two Burritto Bros and several solo albums

Black Sabbath and AC/DC really? I am sure these guys will get in first time around with all the sophistication of sixth and 5th string power chords

Chicago - not really R&R unless you go way way back

Carol King - on her songwriting merits alone

Paul Simon - thought he was already in with Garfunkel
critics love his fluffy output

Seger - isn't a Chevy commercial enough?

Awards ceremony night - about 6-8 artists
prediction - Aerosmith, Paul Simon, AC/DC, Lou Reed, Ritchie Valens, Ojays, Queen, Michael Jackson

this ain't Rock and Roll, this is genocide

LadyTODDfan ~ weren't you a regular here about a year and a half ago, but using a different name? I remember having a couple of nice chats with a Todd crazy gal that lived in San Diego. Is that you? If so, welcome back! And, why'd you ever leave in the first place? Hope you stick around longer this time. We missed you.

Later,

Herm

are not worthy.....

are you there? say a prayer for the pretender......

lp

these guys get in and the Dan does not:

Aerosmith
Michael Jackson
Kraftwerk
Donna Summer
Jackson Browne
Chicago

Greetings from Chapel Hill! Looking forward into the past: tonight meeting with some other Raleigh DanFest leftovers for dins at Mellow Mushroom (go ahead, laugh) in Chapel Hill at 6:30, then as StevieDan said, he has graciously invited us to join the Monday Night Madness at Schoolkids in Cary 'til the cows come home. Join if you're in the 'hood.

Aja--condolences.

Thanks for the kind words, rumblestrip. Today marks the 2 year anniversary of a very tragic and unexpected passing in my life. I've learned to appreciate who and what is around me so much more now.

There was a celebrity division in the triathlon I raced in last weekend, and I just found out I kicked Maxine Bahn's ASS! Okay, okay, she was slow, but hey, allow me a little gloating here.

Finding myself in Vegas, fast as wheels can turn!

Aja

First of all, to Jami and StAl, major congratulations on the birth of Stella Rae! I bow in your general direction and send you all good wishes, prayers and smiles. I hope all is going well with the new arrival; what a blessing she must be.

It has been some time since brother Chris and I made it to the Gorge in early June to watch the band and meet many great people like St Al, Jami, Hoops, Pete, and on and on.

I'm still somewhat fascinated by the low number of tunes from 2VN being played on the tour, given that D&W apparently decided to make the new album in order to have new tunes to play on the road. That said, I envy the Eurofen who have had the joy of listening to Home at Last and Babylon Sisters!

Love to all - Randy

Mlle. Canard: I like your style, lady duck. That was a fitting conclusion to SD2K. Nice work.

things Don and Walt were overheard saying after the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame invite came in the mail

14) I'm not going on after rhymin Simon
13) Come on Don, go ahead and sing Freddy Mercury's parts with Queen with a fur, boa and wig
12) Kraftwerk, they aren't even dignified enough to touch my Lynx
11) Doctor my eyes, would you tone down Jackson's acoustic
10) think we'll need our shades around Michael's ever whitening skin?
9) let's pretend we didn't get the invite and do the amphibian assault anyway
8) wonder if we can sit right next to Steven Tyler's jailbait daughter Lil
7) at least the type of crash and burn we did in the 70's was a little gentler than for those Skynyrd folks
6) Pass the skippy there Iggy
5) the same year as Miles, that would be bitchin
4) If Waits gets in first time around I'm letting Walt sing all the grizzly vocals on the next one
3) No Ozzy, you and Angus cannot have bat wings in your soup
2) hey wait a minute, Patti and Lou weren't the only ones who wrote a song or two about NYC
1) if Chicago gets in, we're not gonna have a horn section contest with those lightweights, no way

why the brits desperately need some good Steely Dan on the telly

10) forget the Irish thing for a forthnight
9) in dire need since SpiceWorld flopped
8) rather fond of Donald's fangs or any good teeth
7) finally understand why all those horndog American's were gushing over the babe choir
6) the Caves of Altimira are two countries away
5) traveling Dan party - we could fit the whole tour entourage on a double decker
4) too far away to go on an excursion to dig up Walt's backyard
3) color coordinated aqua velvet first happened here
2) Roger Nichols - wasn't he the 70's James Bond?
1) Tea on the tracks indeed

Aja - Thanks for your words. Married eight years and still going strong. He's even begun to enjoy small doses of Dan... a little bit of 'Katy' and even 'Janie Runaway'... perhaps there is still hope! :) I think I missed some important news in your life, but whatever happened, my thoughts are with you.

and speaking of lou reed and my NJ trip, who can now go to the statue of liberty without uttering the words: give me your hungry, your tired and poor, I'll piss on them - your poor huddled masses let's club em to death and get it over with and dump them on the boulevard.....i love lou reed, but he makes WB and DF look like Burt Bacharach!

i gotta see the Joker and i'll be right back

Thank you to everyone for your good thoughts and prayers today-I am continually amazed at what beauty can be found even in the depths of despair and loss. My best wishes and love to you, and I am here for you also, whenever you need me. I look outside the window now and see the sunlight streaming in, and know it is a sign, a message, that loss is not permanent, that we are still connected and will be together again. A message also to embrace what is around us while we are blessed with the time we have now.

Sweetie, you have brightened my world; I am so privileged to be able to share this time with you, to give all I can and be happy with that, live in this "present" fully.

rumblstrip-if that's you in a cranky mood your husband is blessed indeed!

Welcome back to all our European travelers (did JMoney make it back? ;-) Stories, we want stories!

Aja

wormy et al, the list for the rock and roll hall of fame 2001 induction can be found at: http://www.bobshannon.com/editor/2001rrhof.htm

the list includes, other than our boys (good pic) other gb notices and my personal favorites, as in - lou reed, paul simon (add to the previous nanana list), jackson browne, iggy & stooges, dick dale (the original california-guitar), miles davis (r&r?), gram parsons, carol king...looking to st al for the petition stuff to get SD to the top, though.

Relax - put some sounds on
I'll brew up some decaf
C'mon kick off those heels ma'am
Now breathe in and sigh out
Let's get with the program
(Let's talk about the good times)

Good king John, no probs mate,ive been waiting a while also (took tonight off work for it !),the video's i mean are ANYTHING involving the Dan 2vN is from early on in the year, a live gig with the current touring line up (saw them at the N.E.C,SUPERB!!).So anything of them live,t.v work,interviews would be aprieceated.
Thanks mate..........Macca.

hey

who has a list of the nominees to the R&R HoF for 2001?

I need a little fodder for a top ten

Wonder how everyone up in Raliegh made out

an assault on Sir StevenDan's record shop
I am sure our friend kept his friends up there well entertained
I want a play by play

wish I could have been there

settled for an x-files weekend with my daughter and son and the first season DVD

a cold front is supposed to hit by noon

oh well

wormy

close your eyes and you'll be there

Macca: You are the star geezer. Thanks alot I've been waiting ages for the storytellers special. I was wondering what you mean by the videos. You mention Aja which was screened on I.T.V months ago but what about 2vN?
Macca I've got a record with Dallas and Sail down the waterway and the early recordings so if your interested e-mail me. Desperatley seeking a copy of sorts of the Bodhisstva live version which I believe is on the Gold expanded compilation.

All the best Good King John.

Macca: You are the star geezer. Thanks alot I've been waiting ages for the storytellers special. I was wondering what you mean by the videos. You mention Aja which was screened on I.T.V months ago but what about 2vN?
Macca I've got a record with Dallas and Sail down the waterway and the early recordings so if your interested e-mail me. Desperatley seeking a copy of sorts of the Bodhisstva live version which I believe is on the Gold expanded compilation.

All the best Good King John.

yahoo! cybercoffee shop, that is - rockin!!! coffee 3g's, good ole american coke for 2 1/2 and half hour internet access for a paltry 5 g's...you don't pass up a deal like that. Smells good too and all kinds of nice tasties - wonder what this here "spacecake" is like? Well there's only one way to find out - it's the empirical method for this investigator every time, as you may recall from before. And, in a case like this - dflfdl tldlslkjd the fl;owers a-a-an be cooll! ter skijpper

Nono: great pics! and captions, especially the "maybe he's not so shy" line

ole: i'm jonesing for "Armagideon" live. hint hint

St Al: congratulations! in honor of the most important "new one" in 2000, I waive any fee for terrioristic activities planned against Jan if the Hall of Fame once again snubs our heroes.

speaking of Rolling Stone . . . everyone one should get themselves over to its website. the magazine has posted a collection of Cameron Crowe's interviews/stories from the '70's with all the big bands of the era. some real interesting stuff for folks like myself whose musical cherry was popped during that era, though the writing style is surprisingly pedestrian.
Highlights include a profile of Becker and Fagen post Aja-release (read all about the SD/Root Boy Slim connections. who knew?) and a Fleetwood Mac interview where even Stevie Nicks makes (kinda) sense.

Good king John-the storytellers episode with The Dan is tonight mon 25th at 23.00 on Vh1,ok.Im still waiting to hear weather or not there's any other Dan vid's on sale and where? (appart from 2vN and Aja).Ta very much. Macca.

sweet sweet baby girl, i am thinking of you today and you know i am always here for you.

i cannot wait until we are together and i am counting the hours until it is so.

remember.....it sometimes rains in paradise.

taking the glass elevator to the top of rio,

s.

Happy Monday to all:

St. Al - great pictures of the wee one - she is an old soul and has had a few happy times here before. prediction: she'll be joy to all and will always see the other side.

LOVE by Nat - my dad used to sing me that, great song, yes!

And yes to Boz Scaggs - I'd listen to him sing the phone book.

Lisa G. - I went to visit some family in Maplewood, NJ - town of hand-placed cobble curbing, it's just beautiful, who knew - I love that town. Anyone in the Boston area, Maplewood is like Winchester on speed. Took my little ones to the Statue of Liberty from the Jersey side. The little-little one said "hi lady" as the ferry was pulling by, very cool.

Fastball is actually a pretty good band - I have their first release and was impressed. I also like the new single on the airwaves. I would not necessarily compare them to the boys, but an argument could easily be made there is an influence there.

Thanks for the blues list, it was perfect.

x - glad to see you doing community service.

clas - glad to read you less angry.

driving like a fool down to Hackensack

Sorry to start out the day in a crabby mood! I hadn’t had my coffee yet.

Anyone notice the intro to Green Earrings sounds like the start of a a news broadcast?

ruby baby – yes, L-O-V-E is a good choice

Gina – you zombie (and I mean that in the nicest way!) :^)

St. Al – the year of Steely Dan – are you sure, I thought it was the year of the cat

Mam’zelle Canard – yay! Lots of applause on your latest entry and thankyou thankyou for providing the link to alt.music.steely-dan (not that I need more distractions at work...)

- Lame Tangerine Madison

You must have shadows and you must have light.

You must have a fool in Jesus.

With just sanity and without pain, without agony - no art.

Must one agonize about the last three lines?

If you study the lingistics and neuristics of the mystics
You will find that their minds rarely move in a line
But it's much more egotistic to abandon such ballistics
and resign to be trapped on a leaf in the vine

"name withheld so I don't become his next target

hey Clas, you can either get cosy with us, or get the fuck away from us. Here we are celebrating the birth of a baby, and you're talking about how easily a murder can be commited. You should be committed. You're a disturbed fuck and you have been for a long time. Go away and stay there."

- Sorry pal, I think I'll be around for while.

This guestbook can be artwork.

You must have shadows and you must have light.

Listen to the groove in "Hey 19".

Listen to the old "call and response"-thing in gospel music.

You must have a fool in Jesus.

You get life in the music if someone is playing against you.

With just sanity and without pain, without agony - no art.

And listen now when I am answering RubyBABY - a conservative who is my best friend:

RubyBABY - did I say that Paul should do that?

That's not right. If you're a "stay at home wife" - that's your job.

And by the way, you were cleaning the kitchen, not the bathroom.

And yes, we have a toilet. And a bathroom. And a roof and walls and a floor.

And no, I'm saving up "the pissing from windows" 'till I get to Manhattan.

Altamira/RubyBABY - thanx - it's 16 months Oct 6.

Gina - hey girl, where did they get that from? Romance?

Everybody - I think Steely Dan is a great band.

C

*************************************************************
Does anyone know when then are going to show the Storytellers special on Steely Dan on this lovely little island?

Is there going to be a live album of the recent tour?

And do you think my snare drum has to much top end?

Thanks for any help. But please if you've any answers especially regarding the snare drum send them to my e-mail address as I;ve restricted access to this terminal
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as if the subtle whirling up to speed of the reel to reel wasn't enough

listen to the fade out at the end of Dr Wu

as Donald sings the very last "Are you with me Dr Wu"
his voice is joined by another one, higher in pitch which seems to be crying out in desperation

subtle stuff

T

please take me along when you slide on down

Not Saying Who - that was extremely rude.

for Satchmo's "What a Wonderful World". i guess it's just too obvious, but i was amazed that no one mentioned it during the brief wedding tune thread. i've launched HUNDREDS of marriages with that tune and when we do, they ALWAYS stay together !

so at this time, i'd like to dedicate a particularly slow and lushly orchestrated non-matrimonial version for the new little miss. she'll know more than we'll EVER know.

gina: i was getting this vision of several u.s. kustoms officials with headphones turned up, all trying to figure out if forwards or backwards there could be be ANYTHING remotely subversive or conscience-altering about the Willem Breuker Kollectif (sounds red don't it ?)... well apparently not, they didn't open it at all. maybe you should have sent some of those OTHER "cds" offered in say... amsterdam lol. i am thrilled. thanx so much for finding them. what a wonderful gesture and i'll commit the wonderful gesture of getting you some american green by mid-week. if you ever doubt the power of an article of clothing (i.e. the t-shirt thing), listen to the tune "the shirt" by mary chapin-carpenter.

alti: that boz scaggs album is an underappreciated gem.

denizens of the raleigh afterfest will be making a pilgrimage to my schoolkid's records (in nearby cary) tomorrow night to join the ranks of the weird regulars who are recharging their peculiarities like unpredictable batteries of dementia in preparation. any/all of the rest of you lunatics are welcome to hijack a bus or deep sea fishing charter or whatever to join the inevitable fun. this has been an international invitational signal.

Checking in a howdy before the Beau and I head to my real Caribbean timeshare in Cancun. We are no longer post-Dan depressed. We will think of our GB friends and laugh and toast to nothing and smash our empty glasses down (I stole that...)

We WILL toast to StAl and the Mrs and their lil' Stella!
Beautiful work, you two.

Wish I could be in Raleigh manana with you festers.
and
Congrats to Malcolm (ygk) on your new massive musical endeavor. The Beau and I do hope to make a gig or two sometime, somewhere.

Yes, Stranger, Dolly Parton has built quite an empire outside
the Smoky Mountains at her DollyWood (music amusement/water
park) where the tax base has improved the lot of her numerous Appalachian family members, the roads, the schools, and future generations of better educated locales from her county with her massive endowment for college scholarships. I admire her tremendously. She sings and picks damn well for not being able to read music (just like Joni M, from whom I stole that earlier line). She has outfitted the entire Sevier County high school band with their instruments and uniforms and transportation to contests. There are hundreds of children coming up the ranks in that school system who will be reading music and playing instruments and being better citizens through her efforts.

Will see you all after the 1st

cara mia in her black mini bikini (yeah, right)

Gina,
Sounds like a brave and wonderful thing you're doing. As for myself, I long to quit this succubus rat race so I can fulfill my dream of writing VCR instructions in Japanese that are even worse than the ones they send us. Like Yossarian rowing from Italy to Sweden, you have given me the courage to hope.

Chat anyone? 8pm PST.

Hi gang--

In honor of the end of the 2vN Y2K tour, I've written a new piece featuring my (thinly disguised) alter ego, the Self-Appointed Bartendress to the Steely Dan Hall of Fame and Caribbean Time Share (SDHOF/TS), featuring some (also thinly-disguised) special guests. It's a little long to post here on the GB in its entirety, but I believe the following infernally-long URL should bring it up from where I posted it to alt.music.steely-dan:

http://x51.deja.com/[ST_rn=fs]/threadmsg_ct.xp?AN=673598810&CONTEXT=969848043.545062926

The URL looks like it's gonna break in some weird place, so you'll have to cut'n'paste it together to get it to behave in your browser.

Enjoy!

/the Mam'zelle
happy to share the Sunday funnies

Wow, it's been a long time, and yet good to see some familiar names still posting here. Yes, I'm still a big fan of Todd Rundgren, but The 'Dan' boys are right there with him. I was lucky enough to see their kickin' show here in June. What a treat. Love the new CD as well. Diane mentioned "Just another Onionhead", (a TR reference), I enjoyed that, it goes back a LONG way... Anyways, I just dropped by to say Howdy, and plan on visiting y'all regularly again.

Smooches, from the Lady TODD fan.

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Can anyone help me please,i need to know weather or not the Dan have released any other videos other than 2vN and Aja,and where i may purchase them from.Eternal thanks.
Macca.

Ruby Baby - Yes, I too have faith in Clas--he's done quite well.

Miz Ducky - Thanks for the link; it sounds quite promising. I'll check it out when I have some time.

Notsayingwho: I have faith in Clas. He will not "fall off the wagon."

I've noticed that several folks in here have become acrid at one time or another, without even touching a drop to our knowledge.

And the WPP doesn't extend into the next realm so I'd be careful.

rb

Congratulations Mama and Papa StAl. You have a beautiful child. My she live a long healthy life.

Razor Boy to EarthBound . . . Razor Boy to Earthbound

Greetings to all.

Peace, Love and Dan

Razor

Steely Fans,

inspired by fans I've met during the danfest in Frankfurt I now dare to post my 2 cents also here at the guestbook.

Year 2K: For a lot of people this year has a special meaning. For me also. It's definitely the year of "the Dan". A new album, a DVD with a live show and a world tour which I was lucky enough to attend 4 shows. What a year ! It's no news, since most of you guys out there might feel in a similar way. This just to express piblicly my amazement. In my neighborhood there is hardly anybody I can share my excitement with. So, you're kind of family to me.

Sooth me if I wrote too long ...

Cheers
Klaus & Rooster

Yes, I agree that Clas is indeed disturbed.
To the women he swoons over - just wait until he
falls off the wagon again and read his acrid words
to you that emit from his keyboard.
No apologies either when he's realized the
error of his ways.

Hey StAl! Now even the ODP is wishing you and yours Mazel Tov! Check it out!

St Al & Jami, You done good....nice little sweetie ya got there.

I posted a Blues Primer a while back but, I just received this update so here goes:HOW TO SING THE BLUES

by Lame Mango Washington
attributed to Memphis Earlene Gray with help from Uncle Plunky,
revisions by Little Blind Patti D. and Dr. Stevie Franklin)

1. Most Blues begin, "Woke up this morning."

2. "I got a good woman" is a bad way to begin the Blues, 'less you
stick something nasty in the next line, like "I got a good woman, with
the
meanest face in town."

3. The Blues is simple. After you get the first line right, repeat it.
Then find something that rhymes ... sort of: "Got a good woman - with
the
meanest face in town. Got teeth like Margaret Thatcher -and she weigh
500
pound."

4. The Blues are not about choice. You stuck in a ditch, you stuck in a
ditch; ain't no way out.

5. Blues cars: Chevys, Cadillacs, and broken-down trucks. Blues don't
travel in Volvos, BMWs, or Sport Utility Vehicles. Most Blues
transportation is a Greyhound bus or a southbound train.

Jet aircraft an' state-sponsored motor pools ain't even in the running.
Walkin' plays a major part in the blues lifestyle. So does fixin' to
die.

6. Teenagers can't sing the Blues. They ain't fixin' to die yet. Adults
sing the Blues. In Blues, "adulthood" means being old enough to get the
electric chair if you shoot a man in Memphis.

7. Blues can take place in New York City but not in Hawaii or any place
in Canada. Hard times in St. Paul or Tucson is just depression. Chicago,

St. Louis and Kansas City still the best places to have the Blues. You
cannot have the blues in any place that don't get rain.

8. A man with male pattern baldness ain't the blues. A woman with male
pattern baldness is. Breaking your leg cuz you skiing is not the blues.
Breaking your leg cuz an alligator be chomping on it is.

9. You can't have no Blues in an office or a shopping mall. The lighting

is wrong. Go outside to the parking lot or sit by the dumpster.

10. Good places for the Blues:
a. highway
b. jailhouse
c. empty bed
d. bottom of a whiskey glass

Bad places:
a. Ashrams
b. gallery openings
c. Ivy League institutions
d. golf courses

11. No one will believe it's the Blues if you wear a suit, 'less you
happen to be an old ethnic person, and you slept in it.

12. Do you have the right to sing the Blues? Yes, if:
a. you're older than dirt
b. you're blind
c. you shot a man in Memphis
d. you can't be satisfied

No, if:
a. you have all your teeth
b. you were once blind but now can see
c. the man in Memphis lived.
d. you have a retirement plan or trust fund.

13. Blues is not a matter of color. It's a matter of bad luck. Tiger
Woods cannot sing the blues. Gary Coleman could. Ugly white people also
got
a leg up on the blues.

14. If you ask for water and Baby give you gasoline, it's the Blues.
Other acceptable Blues beverages are:
a. wine
b. whiskey or bourbon
c. muddy water
d. black coffee

The following are NOT Blues beverages:
a. mixed drinks
b. kosher wine
c. Snapple
d. sparkling water

15. If it occurs in a cheap motel or a shotgun shack, it's a Blues
death. Stabbed in the back by a jealous lover is another Blues way to
die.
So is the electric chair, substance abuse, and dying lonely on a broken
down
cot. You can't have a Blues death if you die during a tennis match or
getting
liposuction.

16. Some Blues names for women:
a. Sadie
b. Big Mama
c. Bessie
d. Fat River Dumpling

17. Some Blues names for men:
a. Joe
b. Willie
c. Little Willie
d. Big Willie

18. Persons with names like Sierra, Sequoia, Auburn, and Rainbow can't
sing the Blues no matter how many men they shoot in Memphis.

19. Make your own Blues name (starter kit):
a. name of physical infirmity (Blind, Cripple, Lame, etc.)
b. first name (see above) plus name of fruit (Lemon, Lime, Kiwi,etc.)
c. last name of President (Jefferson, Johnson, Fillmore, etc.)

For example, Blind Lime Jefferson, or Cripple Kiwi Fillmore, etc. (Well,

maybe not "Kiwi.")

20. I don't care how tragic your life: you own a computer, you cannot
sing the blues. You best destroy it. Fire, a spilled bottle of Mad Dog,
or
get out a shotgun. Maybe your big woman just done sat on it. I don't
care.

StAl! That is one cute little baby! I mean, all babies are cute by definition, but Stella is *really* cute! What an expressive face! What lovely eyes! I give her, maybe, 20 years and she'll be singing backup for the Steely Dan 2020 Tour! (And making the morning fabulous for a couple of by-then septagenarian geezer-rockers ... )

/the Mam'zelle
getting ready to shop for some tie-dyed baby rompers

P.S. That French webcast TV show, "Special Guest," which live-cast a special on the Paris Dan show has now packaged that show on its site for on-demand rebroadcast--three hours' worth! Great interviews with Don&Walt as well as Roger Nichols, and just about everyone in the band except Ted Baker (pity they didn't get him, but hey, the interviewers did real well to get as many as they did). Listen to Michael Leonhart rap with the interviewer in fluent French! Gaze upon the BGVs looking especially fetching! Listen to D&W respond to questions about which (if any) contemporary pop artists they care for, and which Presidential candidate they're (reluctantly) voting for! Plus a couple of live clips from the Paris concert! (Lousy audio, but enough to get a taste and a nice flashback to the shows we saw.)

http://www.canalweb.net/cwsite/cw/default.asp?une=guest

Oh yeah, you have to also put up with the host's singing. He's okay. Mostly. :-)

St. Al and Mrs.-
re:Stella Rae
Precious!!! Thanks for sharing the photos.

Both mommy and daddy want to thank eveyone for their kind words. It means a lot to both of us. Once again all of you are the reason why this guestbook is here in the first place. Here are some pictures of Stella Rae taken less than one hour after she was born:

http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/stella/stella1.jpg
http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/stella/stella2.jpg
http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/stella/stella3.jpg
http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/stella/stella4.jpg
http://www.seanet.com/~stalfnzo/stella/stella5.jpg

As soon as things stabilize a bit around here we're going to have to ramp up the pressure on the Hall Of Fame. This is the year of Steely Dan and we simply will not tolerate anymore waffling. In fact, if they don't make it in I'll pay $500 to the first person who walks up to Jann Wenner and spray paints "Steely Dan" on his Armani suit...

If you haven't already, please fill out the petition. Again, as soon as time permits I'll fill everyone in on the status of this petition. Stay tuned.

http://www.newfrontierconsulting.net/petition.htm

StAl

I've been informed by Dr. Warren Kruger that someone else is posting here using Z as their name. However, he has informed me that this person uses an upper case Z instead of my lower case z and does not list his/her E-mail as x. Be Warned.
Steely Dan In the NYC Inner City Public High Schools
As part of my ever diversified therapy, Dr. Warren Kruger has insisted that I start teaching music in a NYC High School as part of an experimental therapy he claims to have discovered in a book by John Barth (End of the Road).Hopefully this will not be as spectacular a failure as his infamous "Water Therapy" which I am still getting out of my system.
Since there is no music curriculum in NYC High Schools, I began right away on the first day of classes telling the students that this course only features the music of an old burnt out rock band from the 1970s named Steely Dan, who are presently touring the world in a kind of "road show rent party", so they can go back to hibernating for another 18 or so years where they can indulge themselves in questionable behavior that satisfies their perverted psychological and physical urges.
Many of them complained that there was no rap music in the curriculum, so I silenced them by promising to include some of the rap tunes by "Peter Guns" and "De La Soul" that use samples of Steely Dan "vamps and riffs" behind their maniacal rants.
I started them off with "Do It Again", indeed the very first SD tune I ever heard, and told them it was a kind of "Twilight Zone"-type song about the futility of struggling against fate, and informed them that the song's lyrics will probably serve as a good predictor of most of their wretched ghetto lives.
As I kept increasing the volume on the stereo set, I realized I had forgotten to take my medication again, and as the Dorian Mode melody blasted out in to the hall, I realized that this melody was probably stolen from some mystical modal incantation from medieval times. I felt the whole building start to levitate, and waited for some demonic force to appear, but then the pseudo-sitar solo began and we all waited in boredom until finally the chord progression changed to the iv, v, and VI chords of the chorus and at least added some harmonic interest to the dreary monotony of staying on the i chord for eternity.
They seemed to not mind this tune, so I ventured into uncharted territory by playing the titular song from "Aja", and waited for some reaction.
The few white students in this school are all afficianados of what they call "alternative" or "grunge" rock, and their reactions to Aja were-"Mister, this is the type of music that I've been trying to avoid all of my life! It Sucks! It's too slick! etc...
The minority students seemed to offer no reaction until I played the basskeyboard and drums intro from "Black Cow" (octaves and an implied 13th). Shouts of "Yeah!" and "Alright!" echoed through the classroom and I thought I had finally hit some common ground with the little dimwits, until DF ruined it with the first vocalizations of "In the corner, of my e-ye". Immediately, the largest and darkest of them leapt up from his seat and pressed rewind and then play, until we again heard the Black Cow intro.
This continued on for some 10 minutes, and I realized I had pretty much lost control of the class, so I desperately inserted the titular song from "Gaucho" into the tape deck and waited for some reaction.
One lone Latino student asked me what a Gaucho was, and when I told him it was a kind of "Latino cowboy", he responded "cool" and that was the end of that.
The 40 minute period was near its conclusion, so I made one last effort to interest them with the playing of "Ruby,Baby" from DF's Nitefly recording, and I watched with amazement as this seemed to satisfy even the most vocal of them (some white trash with the stench of alcohol on his breath) and he put his arm around some equally white-trashy ho (as they say), and bobbed their empty little heads to the juvenile longings expressed by the lyrics of this arrangement of this little ditty.

BTW.

A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

Ciao

WB looks like a real kindhearted person ..and DF ...thanks for sharing, Nono ...

now i guess ... hi all ... aja and soout?? las vegas?? then i wasn't mistaken when i had this vision of a blacked out jack with no static speed at all, does aja knows she's going there, no, i didn't think so LOL

clas has openly confessed this romance with blaise and it puzzles me i am to be the competition of blaise now, it will make clas very sad and dreary, we don't want a sad clas here on the GB! blaise et moi, with some imagination one could invent a romance there, but we were escape artists, right blaise? he amused me and i played his muse for a while. but a gal's gotta do what a gal's gotta do, so now blaise has this job-offer: anyone willing to volunteer for the position of becoming a blazed muse? a very rewarding job, i can vouch for that! this GB connects people. land, sea and boundaries, not even the sky is a limit.

Nono, i'll go and check your pics in a few minutes.

Altamira, this GB has something, i could recognize & taste your hunger for this GB-fix!! LOL, the GB junkies we all are. Maybe.

Ole, thank you. i'll try not to let my Strangerfriends down.
btw, it's not just writing, music as well.

okay, now i'm off into the outside world again, trying to catch some sun & a danned mindwhirling tan when enjoying ...
have a nice weekend,
Banyan Tree Bow, Gina

the guy from fastball just now on vh1 describes their music as quote : "steely dannish"

they can aspire.

I'm sorry; I meant "A Steely Dan Movie"; it's too late for me to type properly; I'd better go to bed.

Malcolm--I've been wondering if perhaps that new song on the SD website, "The Steely Dan Show," might have been inspired, in part at least, by your song "A Steey Dan Movie"--WB is, after all, said to read the GB, and he may have found his way to your website. Now that things have settled down a bit in my life, I will visit your website and buy that CD that I have heard such enticing snippets from.

Ah, what beeyootiful news! Congratulations to Pat and Jami on their creative collaboration.

SueDave, Ducky and I await your command re: baby showering. In addition, I'm considering offering my services as wetnurse.

Ack! Forget I said that! I just remembered the LAST time...

I wanted Pat and Jami to hold out until tomorrow, when my baby will, at last, turn 21. But babies... they come when they feel like it, and not a moment before!

Jami, you done good. Anytime you want to tell your labor and birth tales of woe and intrigue, I'm listening! It's the hardest thing you'll ever do. From here, you can just coast!

lots of love, plenty of kisses

diane <-- anxious to smell that baby's head...

I humbly beg your forgiveness for having been away from the GB for so long and for not taking the time to read recent posts before posting myself (I plan to do so tomorrow, but I was just so eager to post that I haven't taken the time to do so tonight). I have been concluding my job search, and I have now landed my dream job--technical production editor at the American Psychological Association. It is the quietest place I have ever worked, for we like a tranquil environment for editing, but I have noticed some of my fellow editors wearing headphones attached to their computers, so one of these days I'll take mine to work so I can listen to WBGO, an excellent jazz station that I have recently joined (our local jazz station, WPFW, is also on the web, but they have a lot of non-jazz programming as well, so I chose to send my money to a 100% jazz station--I'll give WPFW some money also, though, since I want to support the only station in the DC area that plays "real jazz," as they put it).

Anyway, now that I am earning more money, I've been able to buy some CDs. I am highly impressed by Dianne Reeve, and she has good taste in drummers--Ricky Lawson plays on one track on the
Reeve CD I bought. I also paid attention to the rave reviews of Michael Franks I have read here and bought "Blue Pacific"; it's a regular old home week for SD musicians: John Beasley, Dean Parks, Peter Erskine, Vinnie Colaiuta, Larry Carlton, and Bob Shepard all play on this recording. Three of the cuts, including my favorite, "Vincent's Ear," are produced by Walter Becker. His pieces have a somewhat edgier sound than the others and feature more acoustic instruments. Franks also shares a bassist with Reeve--"Readdie" Freddie Washington.

However, I was just blown away by Boz Scaggs' CD "Come On Home," which I had heard only tantalizing snippets of before. This white man from L.A. can not only convincingly sing the blues, he can play them as well--I hadn't realized before hearing this recording that Scaggs is a guitarist as well as a singer--his low-key style of playing reminds me of WB. Apparently he can sing and play the blues because he has done research on this style of music, as he ably demonstrates in his excellent liner notes--he can write about the blues as well. Quite an impressive CD all around, in my humble opinion.

I have learned a bit more about the drummer-singer nexus I'd mentioned before--I listened, with great pleasure, to a four-hour program about Mel Torme' on WPFW a while back and learned that Torme' was a drummer as well as a singer. He played piano as well, but he's apparently better known as a drummer. But one could consider the piano as an instrument that does what a singer can't do in that it can provide harmony and percussion. Scaggs is unusual in that he plays a melodic instrument (of course a guitar can be harmonic and percussive, but Scaggs plays solo guitar, not rhythm guitar); so he's an exception to my theory that singers tend to play instruments that do what they can't, but then even DF can play the saxophone, a purely melodic instrument.

By the way, I want to apologize for my hit-and-run posting style of late--I post something I have on my mind, and then disappear until I think of something else. I have enjoyed the community of this forum and I want to be a part of that again by reading all of your posts. Now that my life has settled down a bit, I will do that again; you're a great bunch of people and I've missed you.

One more thing--I picked up a fabulous jazz CD at a used-book store that appears to have had a limited distribution (the CD, not the store--I'm just going nuts over misplaced modifiers now; one can never write comfortably again once one becomes an editor!) It's called "Mood Indigo" and it was recorded in concert by the New Orleans C.A.C. Jazz Orchestra and three guest singers, Johnny Adams, Germaine Bazzle, and George French. It kicks some serious butt; if you find it, buy it!

JW Malibu;
Thanks for the disc big guy, I owe ya one.
Peace,
G.E.

...NOT! But thanks for the thought. Pat Metheny would be proud.

Helene-our first dance was a Peter Gabriel song, "In Your Eyes," done LIVE, of course.

Ole-I actually sang "Natural Woman" at my own wedding. And no, I can't touch Ms. Franklin (who the heck can?), but I'd like to think I did the song some justice. (My two brothers accompanied on keys and drums, so it was kind of a family thing, too. Always a nice touch.) My husband's sister and I then did a duet version of Elton John's, "Your Song." Not exactly lace and ribbons, but the sentiment is there, and it's a great song. Wedding worthy, even.

LP-even though you're probably already gone, where in NJ are you going? Come and visit me.

Ruby-Nice to see you're checking in. Hope you're feeling better. Now get some rest!

A lesser synchronistic, synchronious, synchronictisized moment:
Last weekend, shortly after fuming over the rudest woman in NJ cutting ahead of me at the deli counter, I was looking over the spices when I heard "Dr. Wu," the real version (no muzak) over the supermarket's radio system. Thank God for small favors.

"Any Major Dude" got me out of a major funk the other day. Thanks, boys, for helping my world to fall together again.

For the record, FROM PHOTOS ONLY, I think that Carolyn is very beautiful, probably the most out of the three. And for that, I hate her. I mean that in the nicest way. :) ...although I have neither heard nor seen the girls at all. (I'm probably the only one here that hasn't been to the "Live Dan" this year, or ever for that matter.) If they sing like thay look, watch out world!

Tired...beat...and going to bed after a long, long week.

Love to all!!!!!!!!!!!! Even Clas.

Positively sooutrageou: gotta another verse? Nice

Clas: I was bummed I missed it. Don't tune into much late night.

Hey, all you New Yorker readers: my humble home town is featured in the Sept. 25 issue, very exciting even though what's profiled is a strange local attempt to militate for prayer at high school football games. Mark Singer even interviewed one of the rabbis (City Motto: "We're Big Enough For Two Rabbis"). This article kind of balances the Rolling Stone feature on Ukiah Morrison this summer (Purported City Motto: "Let Your Freak Flag Fly").

And it's followed by an article by our friend Alex Kotlowitz, who wrote the wonderful book, "There Are No Children Here."

Mu--Well noted.

Gina--You go, girl.

Aja--Ditto.

umm:

http://emporium.turnpike.net/~walk/SanDiegoHystericalSociety/page87.htm

???

The perfect wedding song:

http://www.theonion.com/onion3630/wedding_reception_dj.html

...to the one I love best...

Soutrageous: ah, it's you. I play deep into ... poetry. I've only shared mine with a few people in the world. Love made me do it. You are brave.

another great wedding/love song: "Godsend" by DC Talk
I think the music is done in beautiful harmonics. Am I right, mworld?

Hoping praying, I've been waiting
Everybody
Needs somebody to love
There's no question, straight from Heaven
You're my angel
I'm so crazy for you

(CHORUS)
You're a Godsend
A blessing from above
You're a Godsend to me
You're a Godsend
I've been dreaming of
You're a Godsend

Holding your hand, touching your face
I will love you
Now and always I swear
I will never forget
That first moment we met
When two worlds collided
And I found my best friend

CHORUS

(BRIDGE)
I was made for you, you were made
for me
In this lonely world, we were meant
to be in love

(CHANNEL)
I will never forget
That first moment we met
When two worlds, they crashed in
And I found my best friend

(CHORUS)
You're a Godsend
A blessing from above
You're a Godsend to me
You're a Godsend
I've been dreaming of
You're a Godsend

rb

St. Al & Mrs. St. Al....Congratulations on the birth of your little girl! Best wishes to the entire family unit!!

MC & Opti

ruby baby-that's actually a song called "Step Into My Life" by Incognito, and you would LOVE it

the really good stuff was written by sooutrageous

PapaStalfnzo: I'm so happy for you and your family!
Stella Rae is a fabulous name! (I'd keep that one.)

Even after 30+ hours of labor, the memory of pain goes away and when you look into the face of your God-given child, you don't ever think about it. Trust me, I know.

wedding song: L-O-V-E sung by Nat King Cole.

wormT: I'll never finish unpacking!

Clas: Once when you called me & asked what I was doing, I said, "Cleaning the bathroom." You replied, "You should get Paul to do that!" So... do you clean your bathroom? (I'm assuminng you have one - you don't whiz off the top of your building anymore, do you?)

Whoever has been leaving anonymous poetry: I like the last one best (love/obsession)

rb

there seems to be something wrong with my homepage.I'll work on it tomorrow, sorry.

Oh dear. I can't seem to bring up Nono's photo page. My browser keeps redirecting to his ISP's homepage (www.worldonline.nl). Does anybody out there know how to make that stop?

/the Mam'zelle

off to pack, see ya'!

Janie: You forgot one lyric in the song ~

"Waaaa uh
Waaaaa"

Just thought it should be noted.

Later,

Herm

Janie Runaway, what are you doing to me? I just started crying at my desk, that song always does that to me since I was a kid. That one, and "alone again, naturally", "the way we were", and "you and me against the world"......I guess I'm a softy from the seventies.....Not good for a political leader, hahahahaha....done with my pity party from earlier in the week, babies do that for you.

Have fun St. Al - hope you get a little time at home before returning to your provider mode.

Have a good weekend everyone, off to New Jersey for the weekend, see you on I-84 baby!

respect the seven second delay

SYDNEY (Reuters) - In ancient Greece, men competed naked at the Olympics. At Sydney 2000, the women's water polo players are halfway there.

As the women do battle in the pool, many of their bathing costumes are being ripped. Then comes the big dilemma -- play on topless or swim to the side for a quick change?
And that is where the continents start to differ. The Europeans happily play on and won't waste time on a quick change. The Americans and Australians adopt a more modest approach -- they swim speedily to the side and cover up.

so this is why SD goes to Europe so faithfully?

PARIS (Reuters) - The small French Riviera resort town of Le
Lavandou has banned death -- to anyone who doesn't have a burial
plot in the local cemetery, anyway.

Mayor Gil Bernardi has issued a municipal decree which declares: ``It is forbidden to anyone who does not have a burial
plot to die within town limits.''

``I know it's absurd but it's no less absurd than the court
order which banned us from building a new cemetery on the
grounds that the seaside terrain where we want to build comes
under rules protecting the environment'' he told Reuters.
Bernardi said his town had no more room in its small
cemetery. But it urgently needed a new one since nearly a third
of Le Lavandou's 5,508 residents were aged over 65.

``I issued the decree yesterday hoping for official
attention,'' Bernardi said Thursday. ``No one has died since then
and I hope it stays that way.''

good thing there were no SD concerts in this town.

Gee for supposedly 34 that ain't TOO bad -- yer gettin there. Soon you'll sound just like LaMoron, um, I mean LaMormon. The REALLY important vote: two candidates for the oleaginous seat.

St.Al + Jami: Congratulations to you both; Little Stella's arrived just in time to join the nascent GB Babe Choir.

And I know what you mean about the timely music; it's happened to me more than once, too. For this near-random universe, every now and then things become uncannily orderly.

I'm in for the choir - la la la
Wedding songs - got married 20 years ago, and opted for the risque "After the Lovin'" which in this DJ age has become mainstream. Still makes me a bit misty, unlike the gags I experience when I hear "We've Only Just Begun" or "Just the Way You Are" the songs du jour of the time.
Nono - great photos, whaddya mean maybe I'll do the rest later
Congrats to the St. Al's! Stevie Wonder sings it best...
Isn't she lovely
Isn't she wonderful
Isn't she precious
Less than one minute old
I never thought through love we'd be
Making one as lovely as she
But isn't she lovely made from love
Isn't she pretty
Truly the angel's best
Boy, I'm so happy
We have been heaven blessed
I can't believe what God has done
Through us he's given life to one
But isn't she lovely made from love

thanks aja for the kind words
looks like you have too much poetry here to bother yourself with a little prose

|||||| wrote in response to my stark comment - We ARE more than words on a screen, I hope.

well yes, some of us are just |'s

no really, it was meant to bring the medium to it's lowest common denominator and show how one can rise quite high above it

anything is possible on pastel yellow
but I personally prefer sky blue most of the time

Ruby - you must be still unpacking, we haven;t heard from you much lately, hope your back to normalicy soon

tster

you walked in

Nono L- Wow that is so cool...what great pics! "OOOOOOOH What a Lucky Man He Was"

Don Pardo- No besmirching taken Pal....it was just me thinkin' out loud. Have a great weekend Folks

Nono, you lucky dog!! Thanks so much for sharing them with us.

rumblestrip

Gina you can find the pics on http://home.worldonline.nl/~vb000120
Those arn't all the pics but I had a hard time just doing these, maybe I will do the rest later, have fun.

Ah, a dreamy day on the guestbook. We ARE more than words on a screen, I hope.

I have been watching some stunning aerial manoeuvres out here - groups of 5 fighter jets in tight formation (one in the middle of a square) suddenly zooming high, only to swoop down again leaving a brilliant trail of white

'stop the madness'- i happen to like the lists

JWMalibu, thanks for the specs, maybe I'll have a go!

and I step into the sun

Whooa! Flo! I had not inention of besmirching your schedule nor your lifestyle. It's fine that you do what you love, and how lucky you are to play and create!

After all, I'm still stuck here reading someone elses copy! My dreams of being a successful lounge singer have been dashed! Best of luck to you David, and if you ever need V/o, let me know

DP

St Al- What a great thing you did when you invented the GuestBook. You and Hoops are Very Cool and Dedicated Dudes.

I love this place and all it's Inhabitants. I've tried a couple of times to stay away and I always get sucked back into the GB vortex.As Full and as Happy a life as I have...there's still always room for the GB Denizens.
Don Pardo-Floridavid's "Act" is on the road enough to satisfy him
very well thank you. At this point in my life I know better than to think my Marginal talents are enough to try for any loftier goals than to make a nice living doing what I love.This piece of Paradise I live on is my retirement home...and it's all I need. And taking Mrs. Floridavid on a Cruise or 2 a year and writing and recording a few songs is all I ask to be happy.
Time for the Beach tour to continue,Later All

and that wasn't too shabby either, Wonderworm!

Aja

The lists aren't funny.

a swirl of Gb activitiy

Gina - let the following of your heart and soul grace it's tender ways not in moments fleeting but with broad seizing words to capture the grace and clarity that you have expressed here

first a welcomed newborn now another romance

some of you out there seem to see more than mere words projected on that pastel yellow warm cathode ray tube

knock yourselves out, there

on the more longing side - I'm 150 pages into John Irving's "A Widow For One Year". What a thouroughly captivating book

in a scent tah mental mood

t

I can tell you all I know, the where to go, the what to do

Birds are singing
Early morning melodies
Floating
My heart is calling
Wanting you, needing you

Don't go changing
This warm and mellow mood you're giving
I am so excited
Holding you, between my dreams
My world is spinning
I see visions in my mind, unfolding
Freely falling
Like shifting sand
Thru my hands

Come closer.....

Regarding the cover art for the GB Compilation: I did the artwork for last year's cover, and would be happy to pass the torch to other GB artists this year. If we get multiple submissions, I'll post all submissions on the GB Compilation page, and we can cast votes for the two (front and back cover) we want to use. Here are the specs:

~ artwork should be in Photoshop or .jpg format

~ resolution should be 400+ dpi MINIMUM - anything less will look fuzzy or rasterized on printed format

~ size = 4.75" x 4.75"

~ TM/2000
The GB Compliation
~ The above text needs to be included in the art
(please be creative in your use of fonts - no courier!)

Welcome, little one! May strong arms hold you, caring hearts tend you, and may love await you at every step.

Congratulations Mommy & Daddy!

Another lively day on the GB, I see. Hope you had plenty of sleep last night, St. Al and Mrs. St. Al!

Sure I'm getting married to sooutrageous-that's what happens when you get a couple of Italians together! First a GB birth, now we need a wedding. You're all invited-hope you like pasta.

Yes, I am JOKING! I won't be posting from the Little Chapel of the West (but the Voodoo Lounge, maybe........)

rumblestrip-I want to shake it in my aqua velvet, too! Maybe the dancers can back up the singers.

Gina-I'm so happy about your decision. You NEED to be writing-you're too gifted to waste that talent.

From the Excessive Estrogen Dept: the men may have been drooling over the babe choir, but have any of my sisters been salivating over the Olympic swimmers??? Baby, bring it on home!

8 more hours of dime dancing, then I'm free!

Aja

Can Miz Ducky manage to book River Sound in 2 weeks, when her Donald returns?
Will Clas and Gina consummate their secret romance?
Will Voodoo chile Chere resurface in Barrytown?
Is Lisa G actually related to Kenny?
When will Floridavid take his act on the road?
And will the GB Babe Choir cover a capella versions of a full legnth Gaucho?

stay tuned

this place feels like a Garrison Keeller novella.

Gina-you've been gone far too long. sooutrageous is running off to Las Vegas with Aja. Little Chapel of the West, anyone?

We have a baby beemer!!!

Who's doing the cover art for Technicolor Motorhome 2000? Is it decided yet?

St.Al and the Mrs.: Big congratulations to you both. Just watch ~ you'll like it so much, you'll have a handful more.
30 hours?!?! I hope you brought her a really interesting focal object.

Hope the baby sleeps throught the night, not just this week, but always in the future.

Later,

Herm

Ole: Doesn't that sum up many relationships, though not necessarily in that order!!

top ten reasons the SD 2000 tour had to end

12) Negative girls back home to attend to
11) in walked Franny out went Australia
10) stalker laws were about to be in effect on Vicki's entourage
9) Tom Barney's hiney is getting sore
8) Walter has things to dig up in his back yard
7) too much Pengo Power - not a good thing
6) St Al needs to be home with the new arrival
5) the lynx is finally working correctly
4) the euros don't get the Cuervo Gold Hey 19 joke
3) Aja was about to say yes to a far off tour excursion
2) to pleasantly uphold "see you next year"
1) the babe trio was starting to color coordinate outfits

Congratulations, good St Al and family! May Stella Rae's cries be Mu chords to the deserving parents' ears.

LP-I'll keep that in mind.Any more talk like that and you'll end up with a free CD.

Miz Ducky- You Checkin' your snail Mail?

I heard on the radio this morning Mark Knopfler is coming out with new work in the next couple of weeks, anyone know anything about this? I was listening to golden heart yesterday, which was oddly coincidental.

I always fall for the drummer, david in the florida room. And, since I don't sing, I'll be dancing on the table, yes - no cages, sorry.

Clas, what's up, why so glum?

Good luck to Gina on your new foray - your courage is an inspiration. I hope to write too, someday, when I have more more to say.

back to writing my minutes for now.....

where have you been green earrings?

grinding through my day gig

St Al- Congratulations to you and Jami on the Arrival of Stella Rae! What a year! A Steely CD, A Steely Tour. and a Beautiful Stella Daughter!Well done Pat.

GB Babe Choir?....I want to be the Drummer playing behind That!

hey Clas, you can either get cosy with us, or get the fuck away from us. Here we are celebrating the birth of a baby, and you're talking about how easily a murder can be commited. You should be committed. You're a disturbed fuck and you have been for a long time. Go away and stay there.

Yo Saintly One,

Big congrats on the newest addition to your family! Great news indeed... Love the name.

She will no doubt inspire the Muse to write songs about her someday.

Best of luck!

Joe

St. Al - fabuloso congratulations to you and your family!
Great story about Reelin'....synchronicity is amazing sometimes.....

ygk

C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S, St. Al!. 'Stella' means star in Latin, yes? So Stella Rae is in fact like star-ray, star-light -- this connexion has already been made, I see

Poorkingjohn, what a sweet story. how cool is that!

So our Babe-ylon Sister group so far has 7+2:

singers: LisaG (bring your low C#), rumblestrip

dancers (table and other): lp, Miz D, oleander

aqua velvet dress wearers: Aja

miscellaneous participants: LucyB

balancing things out: greeneearrings and Blaise

this highway runs from Paraguay

one of the most magical things about a newborn in the midst is it makes everything just stop.

hi Lisa G - I think of Marywood when someone says Wilkes-Barre (who said it again?) because that was the airport I slammed into, literally, as I remember. They were a client of mine in 1989 and it was still a college, so I'm happy to hear how they have obviously grown into a univeristy. Part of my job was to help them with an expansion. I remember cruising around in a rented Chevy with radio stations locked into the music of REO Speedwagon and Styx and really playing nothing else. I actually get triggered to that part of the world when I hear the words "heard from a friend who heard it from a friend....." I ended up at the bar at the Ramada Inn with a co-worker until closing time and then commenced a pursuit of food at 2 AM on the commercial strip there, which could not be found, and the last thing I remember is saying "how come you can't get 24 hour food anymore in this world?". The sisters I met with the next day at 8 AM I'm sure took note of my peekid-ness. So the memory is a little odd, sorry. Hey I grew up in Syracuse, so that's not much better than the WB/Scranton area, really.

I am grateful to the mentions of The Style Council, that's a band I have not heard in a long while.

Back to the wedding thing if you can't get a band - Swing Out Sister is also a good choice to play. Harvest Moon by Neil Young is a good one too.

Mad Mona bakin' gospel candy

...got the number?

God, this little community is so fucking cosy, it makes me wanne throw up. Sometimes I understand why John Lennon got murdered.

dr Mu - guess what? We are a week behind the Letterman-shows here in Sweden, yesterday they broadcasted the show with Al Gore. And damn, who joined the CBS Orchestra? Warren Zevon!

He sang a couple of tunes but it was just before and after the commercial breaks so I didn' get the hang of him. Tonite he's gonne stand in for Schaffer.

Got to go. Must help some friends in Palestina blow up a bus.

Viva Felicia!

Viva PLO!

Fuck Delta Airlines!

C

Gina, an angel.

Ole - It's true.

Did autumn start yesterday?

CONGRATS TO YOU, ST. AL & CO ...a lovely and enchanting name, Stella Rae!!
You will be sharing some pics, no doubt!

It's a beautiful morning here in Maastricht, when I look outside I have a view of a real medieval scenery west of the river, being on this top floor. Realize it seldom, it's a wonderful city I live in.

What harmony on this GB, this talk about weddings & songs ..then a baby born, not just any baby but our hosts' ...
30 hours of labour on the other hand ...oops!

And again my fellow Strangers are the first I'm sharing some other news with, have cleaned out some "life savings" this morning and it buys me at least one year to play this sabbatically me for a while longer ...it buys me time to really concentrate on my heart's desire ..
W R I T I N G.

And I know it's a good decision, just like when I decided to quit my corporate job. YES. Euphoria will probably try to get a hold of me, but I should handle this in an adult way.
Hm. Feel sooo juvenile right now. Freedom.

JW MALIBU, really liked your "wedding day" images, they have this vulnerable layer and the depth one must feel at a time like that ... I at least have the experience of having met someone I shared that dimension with, kismet and karma sometimes divide other directions, so I have no regrets for not having made it in this lifetime. Now he wears this tour 2000 SD-shirt and I know I wasn't alone after all in my mindwhirls ... it's close enough for me!

Hi Aja, everyone ... Soout/Steven is around sometimes but where is Chere?

Back to a lurking mode, and thanks for thinking I'm an angel, Jim ... Blaise however can fill in the blanks here why I am not, right Blaise? LOL
Seulement peut-etre A MUSE toi
yes indeed c'est vrai

A warm and sweet congrats out to St Al and family! :)
Your choice in name is beautiful! Kind thoughts and warm wishes being sent your way!

Fav wedding song- "Blood of Eden"- Peter Gabriel
" First Time Ever I Saw Your Face..."- Roberta Flack
And Many More..........

-Helene

Woo-Hoo!
Three cheers for the hardest working parents in Show Biz!! A warm welcome to their new plush Jazz-Rock Baby! As my Grandmother used to say, A baby may grow heavy in your arms, but will be light in your heart. Mazel Tov.

Pat & Jami--Mazel tov! What a great family she chose to be born into! May that 30 hours be the hardest thing you ever do.

Blaise--You never know what you'll find in this place. There's a funny way it comes through.

Edd, LisaG--Well, sort of. But if we were ever to go back and have a proper wedding, I picture us starting off a snowball to Aretha singing "Natural Woman" and Lyle Lovett's "Stand By Your Man." Only those renditions. Nothing else would do. Actually, the best wedding music I ever heard was Mark Isham and his band, who played for my friends about 23 years ago in San Francisco.

Jeez, from bitter inter-gender disputation to wedding songs to a baby, just like that! Herm, I think I need a little time in the cave.

Great big congratulations, St. Al and Mrs. St. Al!
love the name
best wishes to the three of you
gentleman loser

St. Al~ Congrats! Lets hope the kid looks like your wife!

St. Al: congrats on the bambino. May there be great joy and playthings.

For our reception we played some Little Feat, Gaucho, The Nightfly, and the Neville Bros. We were stuffing our faces with Louisiana cuisine which we would not see for quite a while...

St Al,
Mucho Congrats. What's this tentative name stuff? Decide, man. It's only for a lifetime.

As i made the turn into my driveway the other day, the
local D.J. started to spin cousin dupree. Were as from the back
seat. My 8yr. old shout's out... OH! daddy it's number 7# (Got
it by the 5th. note. Bless her little heart.) As i put the car
into park, and lean back to enjoy, i notice that they were not
jumping from the car to go and play? But stayed to listen! Soon
my 6yr old son say's this is my favorite steely dan song dad.
Not me say's my 13yr. old mine is the one were he goes "Got a
case of dyna-mite, i could hold out here all night" It's called
"Don't take me alive" i tell her. When my 8yr. old say's "I like
number 4#. off this C.D. i ask? No she say's. the one with the
grasshopper on it daddy.("Daddy don't live in that New York city
know more". Not surpriseing it's also her mother's. My born and
rased New York girl, off 19 yr.
We then sat back in silence, tapping are feet to the boys
magic. As i said start them young they will surprise you!

The song a robin sings
Through years of endless springs,
The murmur of a brook at eventide
That ripples by a nook where two lovers hide,

A great symphonic theme,
That's Stella by starlight and not a dream
My heart and I agree
She's everything on earth to me.

-Victor Young and Ned Washington

CONGRATULATIONS, St. Al and family. And welcome Stella Rae to this crazy and beautiful world.

A tune is in order:
Stella by Starlight, anyone?

Don't worry, new Papa. I'll mind the pancakes with Father V. Just keep your snowshoes on.

I've been reading for the last 3 hours with great interest at all the topic-jumping activity. So I must, must comment.

LP-"i also find the cotswold's quite settling but that's another story. as is a bizarre business trip to wilkes-barre/marywood college"
For the record, Marywood College (actually Marywood University at the moment--now THAT'S bizarre) is not in Wilkes-Barre. It's in Scranton. Actually Dunmore. Again my hometown has made the GB. It really must be on the map...perhaps I should move back? nah
By the by, my dearest LP, what did you think of that little armpit, I mean, corner of the world?

Herm-AMEN to "My One And Only Love." That is THE stuff.

Another to Miz D-Dahling you are mahvelous with your lovely Donaldifications. He is beyond being the "monkey in my..." oh never mind, you get the idea.

ALL-I have been after a position with the babe choir for months now. Count me in on the GB girls club thang (with Mr. Earrings and LE Blaise in tow, of course)

Jim-Gina? An angel? Isn't she, though?

Edd-I second that emotion on live music at weddings. Why would anyone want CANNED MUSIC at their special affair? I mean, would YOU want canned vegetables at your wedding?

Mu-Re: Licking ice-cream cones
On 3 or after 3?

Congrats to St. Al & Jami...and what a wonderful name for your beautiful daughter!

Pat & Jami;

Congratulations to the newest pair of cool and loving parents--you two.

Here's to what really matters...You three are so blessed to have each other.

With much warmth and love,

jim mckay

St. Al, thumbs up from Indiana!

StAL
Congradulations
Happy to hear that of your blessing..

Ed,Terry and - Lora(9 yrs old)and she is Ricky Lawsons biggest fan..

St Al and Jami

Warm Wormy CONGRATULATIONS on your new arrival!!!!

with a Saint for a father Stella is in great hands

Bundles of joy to the two of you

T

StAl and Jami: Mazel Tov!!!

So nu, vhen are you posting the baby pictures already?!?

/the Mam'zelle
in her aspect as Tante Katchke (Auntie Duck)

St. Al & Jami: What great news for you all! Get lots of sleep and fill us in when you're rested (which should be in what, 18 years?).

Welcome Stella to the GB. May you sleep warmly through the night and play all through the day.

Way to go St. Al and especially to mom! There really is nothing like a newborn baby to keep us all grounded. I am so happy for you! :)

son you better be ready for love...keep your eyes on the sky

StAl - 30 hours of labour?

OUCH.

CONGRATS !!!

at the digital darkroom;

http://steelydan.com/2kdarkroom.html

Way to go St. Al.

Way to go Pat and best wishes to you and the family.

Is it any coincidence that the tour has just ended?

We wait for the details, weight, inches etc. with a big cigar in hand.

Again, Congrats!

Peace & Love

greeneearrings

Big big congratulations, St. Al and Mrs. St. Al!

Aja

So we got in the car yesterday...on our way to the hospital...you see, Jami's water had broke in the middle of the night. Anyway, guess what song was playng on the radio as soon as we drove off? "Reelin In The Years."

Kismet?

Stella Rae (tentative) born at 1:00 PM Seattle time, today, September 21 after 30 hours of labor. 10 fingers. 10 toes. Mom's tired. Dad's tired. More later.

Peace,
StAl

http://steelydan.com/

I am in need of an exceptionally kind DanFan who would be willing to donate his/her time. I really REALLY want a recording of a show, any show- perferably this year's 7.15.00 show, but I'd be thankfull for any show- to start a collection of tapes. I'd pay for postage both ways and send some blank tapes or CDs. If you're willing, please email me at sinko25@msn.com .

can't get the webcast to post so I'll get beck to nature via

http://www.steelydan.com/Images/2k/europe/sdo2000.jpeg

has anybody been watching the streaming video of "Special Guest" from Paris, France? I just started, and I think it's kind of interesting......

the carpenter's?

lurking and kind of bored,

chips

how to go from babe envy to wedding songs in 10 easy steps

10) Vicki is the bomb
9) I'm infatuated
8) my wife might mind
7) so what
6) honey you shouldn't gawk at those tour photos on the web
5) I will if I want to
4) heavily in the dog house
3) wonderful make up sex
2) ah, remember when
1) spooning and discussing wedding songs

or the two step program

1) wonderful getaway
2) how much for the extra long train?

It is the essence of this GB which allows a seamless fusion of choir trio, male oriented observations to wedding songs in two days.

and Gina, you write like an angel (I'm hanging on her every word).

Cappuccino Kid: Yeah, I agree, Tracy Thorne's vocals on "The Paris Match" are a very cool. But, I also have a very early, maybe their first, vinyl, called, "Introducing The Style Council ~ a mini LP", which has the original version of "The Paris Match" with Paul Weller handling the vocals by himself. It's very interesting. Tracy gives it that smoky-nightclub-after-hours feel to it, whereas Weller turns it into a mid-60'2 r&b number. I don't know if this version is available anywhere on CD. Well, I guess that goes without saying, since very little of their catalogue is currently available. I have their greatest hits, and neither version of "The Paris Match" is included on it.
Anyway, it's cool to see that there are other fans out there. Lore has it that it was the Style Council's "style" that opened the floodgates for the lounge/exotica revival, similar to Joe Jackson's "Jumpin' Jive" creating a delayed revival of swing and jump music. I never thought of the SC as lounge before, but I can now see what they are suggesting.

Later,

Herm

can time outweigh the love we waste
can time even the score
can time erase the time we waste
and give us time for more

can love outweigh the time we waste
can love even the score
can love erase the love we waste
and make me love you more?

steven

KD - Saw the first fifteen minutes: Two 90 second clips of the first two song on the Paris setlist plus a jam session featuring various french musician playing Pretzel Logic with the host on vocals (no less). Then got kicked out for lack of bandwidth...
Trying again. The usual talk you'd expect from parisians make up the most of it so far. Will try to catch the interview at least.

what's with all the altar calls

how about lazy saturday night torch songs

anything by Diana Krall - especially "Peel Me A Grape

Van Morrison - Tupelo, Told You Lately or Moondance

Louis Armstrong and Oscar Peterson - if that doesn't induce the necessary steam call the taxidermist

KD, do not think it's unnoticed your non-participation in the men are from venus discussion and on any attempt to retrieve faith in the "system" - and also, what's your wedding songlist?

i wish i had a heart like ice

nevermind...oui oui

Is anyone out there trying to pick up this SD concert in Paris? Anyone having any luck>?

Immersing myself in drivil. Feel free to heckle, but I think this is a great love poem

Stephen Dobyns
Rain Song

The woods are full of men with umbrellas—
the butcher from Roy's market, the mechanic
who fixed my car—they are looking for you.
They heard of a woman lying naked in the fields:
that was you. For days you lay in the north pasture
to encourage spring, as the sun touched your thighs,
your belly and breasts, and was at last so
disconcerted that the sky clouded over
and the president of rain took you for his wife
You wore blue to the wedding; even the crows sang.
Now hurrying through the trees, the black umbrellas
do not realize it is you dripping from juniper
and birch, forming puddles, then rivulets and
running downhill to the river flowing through the town.
The people of Peterborough bathe in your body.
They drink glass after glass and say they feel better.
They smash their televisions and prepare to go dancing.
The fat town clerk and tax consultant, legions
of Republicans removing their clothes, baton twirlers
and fireman's band—all march naked through the street,
banging symbols and drums as you touch them,
blowing their horns as you run down their backs,
tumbling at last into lascivious piles on this
rainy Sunday they will long remember but which you
have already forgotten as you flow down to the sea
into stories of sailors and promiscuous fish,
and past that small promontory where I stand
body greased and waiting for that long swim.

living the words to Carly Simon's "Coming Around Again" - who knew life really was an MTV video?

yes, as a woman, I personally need constant assurances, it's on my list of personal setbacks/baggage, though I can set the bags down and live well.

I just re-read some postings from earlier and there was another great set of lines from ~ that I did not express my gratitude on, so thank you ~ for that, as well as JW Malibu's.

top ten wedding songs if you can't get a good jazz band and are using a dj:

1. world on a string by Ella (duh)
2. popsicle toes by Michael Franks, or when she is mine, or soulmate, or just about everything by him, actually
3. teach me tonight by Al Jarreau
4. a night in summer long ago by Mark Knopfler
5. love song by the Cure (good call)
6. daisy jane by America (just kidding)
7. runnin' up that hill by Kate Bush
8. nick of time by Bonnie Raitt (too cynical?)
9. this is the day by the the
10. whammy kiss by the B-52's

try to make sense of the suburban sprawl

Dredging up a topic from earlier in the week: juvenile Dan-dom. I myslef have been listening to SD since birth. I used to fall asleep to peg guietly pumping every night from my dad's reel to reel. I suppose this is a bit of a giveaway as to my age, but screw it. All secrets come out in good time

REM's "At my most beautiful" is a wonderful love song and would meak a good addition to my wedding (not that I see one in the near future). "My funny valentine" is also one of my favorite love songs, as well. Always reminded me of shakespeare's "My mistress's eyes are nothing like that sun" sonnet

Yours, going nowhere
gentleman loser

I think "My Funny Valentine" performed the way Will Lee did on his "Oh!" album (with the excellent piano solo by his dad) would be a cool wedding tune...

(I don't want to hear the record. I want it performed live. Records at weddings are bad. Musicians good.)

Hey Social Hermit, the fact that you EVEN know about the beautiful Paul Weller penned "You're the Best Thing' makes you damn cool in my book.
"My Ever Changing Moods' is one of my all time album faves and "The Paris Match" from the same disc, which features a very young and ultra-husky-voiced Tracy Thorne, is simply sublime!

so the women of this guestbook need some assurrance in this age of uncertainty and fleeting deep and meaningful relationships

hey would one rather be burned but still willing to throw ones heart out to the fire for true intimacy and meaning

damn right

hear hear JW - your finest work. that was beautiful, successful in restoring my faith.....

but first let's get off this highway

JWMalibu-a big, big romantic sigh!

(look sweetie, I'm leading with my heart now!)

Aja

Here's a hauntingly beautiful wedding tune...

For My Wedding (Larry John McNally)
from Don Henley's "Inside Job" (2000)
Musicians: Stuart Brawley ~ Don Henley ~ Stan Lynch ~ Dean Parks ~ Benmont Tench

for my wedding, i will dress in black
and never again will i look back
ah, my dark angels we must part
for i've made a sanctuary of my heart

to want what i have
to take what i'm given with grace
for this i pray
on my wedding day

for my wedding, i don't want violins
or sentimental songs about thick or thin
i want a moment of silence
and a moment of prayer
for the love we'll need to make it
in the world out there

to want what i have
to take what i'm given with grace
for this i pray
on my wedding day

i dream, and my dreams are all glory and light
that's what i've wanted for my life
and if it hasn't always been that way
well, i can dream and i can pray
on my wedding day

so what makes us any different from
all of the others
who have tried and failed before us
maybe nothing, maybe nothing at all
but i pray we're the lucky ones
i pray we never fall

to want what i have
to take what i'm given with grace
for this i pray
on my wedding day

a 10+ from the Russian and East German judges!

our song: "I Volunteer" by Glen Frey

what i wanted: "Slippery When Wet" by the Commodores

for my next marriage, i really, really want to play "Haitian Divorce" in the hopes of generating some type of reverse karma

Whatever you do, take my advice and don't play "Celebration". Your guests will respect you for it. Also, I'd stay away from the "Hokey-Pokey", or the "Chicken Dance". No one needs to see grandpa shaking his ass and flapping his arms. Some things are best left undone.

Later,

Herm

Frank Sinatra:

"From This Moment On"
"Like Someone In Love"
"Love Is Here To Stay"
(and numerous other)

John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman:
"My One And Only Love"
(It doesn't get much more smoky-romantic than this. A true Wedding Nocturne)

Or, a wee bit more modern ~

The Stlye Council
"You're The Best Thing"

The Cure
"Love Song"

REM
"You Are The Everything"
(Our first dance)

Later,

Herm

P.S. Who IS getting married?

T-7 days. Running to the bathroom ;-)

Aja

Hot and Nasty

yes you have a point
the alter and the dan do mix notith

where do I get my liver and onions?

crank up Billy Joel's "Just the Way You Are"

back to the topsoil, and quickly

the song for my wedding dance was "world on a string" by the great Ella Fitzgerald - original studio recording.

American Songbook standards are very cool and classy at a wedding, have seen it done by others and really enjoyed being there. A simple jazz trio for the receiving line and meal time is also a nice romantic cool touch.

Who's getting married?

You'll open your umbrella and we'll walk between the raindrops back to your door

top ten things you would be left with after Don and Walt got through with you

10) a drugged swirling feeling as you stumbled out of Walt's backyard
9) that fleeting "Sorry Charlie" look from Vicki as she raised her eyebrow in tempted disapproval
8) first chapter of the novel "What a Shame About Me"
7) a reprieve from the constant spit valve assault
6) a quick check downward, good, the plumbing's still there
5) shared Gaslighting story's on the bus with Abbey
4) next stop - On The Dunes
3) caught in my reservation
2) a neck craned stage left, stage left only
1) that shape is my shape, as I attempt to stand

Anyone that would consider a Steely Dan number as their 'wedding song' should be subjected to a week of continuous Room 222 re-runs and be forced to eat Tripe, Scrapple and liver & onions for a month.
Come on people, there are so many other romantic songs by other artists dedicated to erotic love. PLEASE DON'T GO THERE!
ROMANCE IS NOT A FAGEN/BECKER STRONGHOLD!
Let's do a theme on appropriate wedding songs. My suggestion:
BACK DAT ASS UP!

Wedding songs?- 1st dance ,"Mated" by Todd...then lot's of Dan for the reception....brought back a good memory.

StevieDan-Guilty as charged I guess. Support the GB musicians? Hell, Support the GB Record/CD store owners!He can Ship as well as Amazon.

Anyone-I know this sounds stupid but,I've been thinking about a Remote Controlled Boat (electric) For the Pool and or Canal in Back of my House. Anybody know anything about these Toys? Some Kids never grow up.

Hey,

I'd go with the song that's just as appropriate for the wedding reception as it is for the wedding night.

Do It Again

Later,

Herm

i had a love before but soon it was over yeah
and i never found the one to stay right beside me yeah
but honey you sing a different song
the way you love me turns me on
deep down inside me girl
you came with love to change my world
and now.....
you are.........my all
o babe ya know that ya got me
o baby won't you say that you love me
never felt so good
never feelin' down
won't ya give it to me baby yeah
that's the way that i like it!
now ya started..........
keep it comin'
now ya started babe
keep it comin'

sweet sweet girl, you so know the rest ;-)

DC Area Dan Fans: Michael McDonald is playing at Merriweather Post Pavillion this Saturday night. Wish I could be there.

was "Septembro (Brazilian Wedding Song)" from Quincy Jones' "Back on the Block". Anyone heard this one?

top ten things Walt and Don would do to you after they caught you with dear Victoria

12) the opposite of an ariel view would never sound so sweet again
11) that scar face from Mizar 5 is sure to be an accomplice
10) wouldn't the loss of respect from Aja be enough
9) you could join Clean Willey in the substance abuse meetings after the whole ordeal
8) no plush Tv couch, no Hanks Pad, more like the basement in Silence of the Lambs
7) in walks Mr Warren Kruger
6) the danger on the rocks will slowly pass
5) tonight when I face the dragon, my lifeline will flow like cherry wine
4) another negative guy, getting close to the cave
that poor misguided horndog, time for a rather close shave
3) Two Against Nature, My Sexual Nature
2) you find out what's really in Walt's backyard
1) the Lynx is converted to a electroshock unit of torture

KD: Damn, there's nothing like Royal Scam for breakfast. The cat ran for cover. Still obsessing re: guitar solo. Check out the same cool trick at 1:15 of Pretzel Logic and 0:08 of Everything You Did. Gotta be the same guy. There's an outside chance that they are both Walter, BUT the EYD solo has that Third World Man tone. Regis, my FINAL answer is Carlton. If not then Walter is God.

Top Ten life certainties:

-Death, taxes and... debt.
-Choice is ALWAYS determined by a given set of circumstances.
-There is no God, just gods. Make your own transcendantal pie.
-Steely Dan will outlive you and I. The music, that is.
-Long-term Kondratieff economic cycles are due for a downturn, watch out. It never fails.
-I think, therefore I am but it wasn't always like that, you know.
-"The unconscious always says yes." Fagen, Plush 2000. He's right, as always.
-You will always long for the safety and comfort of your mommy's womb. In vain, of course.
-Free will is AlWAYS determined by a given historical setting. Therefore, it's limited.
-I am - and will remain - a know-it-all pretentious bastard.

Thank you.

timg

i was just kidding about the french maid costume....

Worm - ygm? Don't get me started. Just don't, ok?

Wedding songs - Mine was Black Friday. Kind of a visionnary tale when I look back now. lol

And before my friends find out I'll be on the road...

top ten reasons to leave your wife/lover and head into the sunset with a bare midrifter

10) the members of the Gb will be forever envious
9) when she slams you down hard you can really sing along:
"and I almost got there, and I almost got there, almost got there"
8) your wife might take you back afterwards
7) oh the joys of Michael Leonhart chasing you around, spit valve wildly flagulating
6) you get on Walter's good side once Vicki drops you and comes back to him in a big big way
5) excellent Cabaret seats for the fall season
4) you would have had to have paid interest on that nest egg anyway, what better than to throw it all on a few weekend excursions with Cynthia in tow
3) Aja would lose all faith in you
2) a lock of that red hair, some prose, sweet nothings, oops busted
1) you always have Lester the Nightfly to get you through those churning late nights after all consequences of your actions settle in

ymg

dan music for a wedding?
the Nightfly
it's optimism and sparse open arrangements are perfect for the intro into the reception hall

Have just been there and read the article!
OK

There is a new Dan interview, as well as an interview with the Dan tribute band, The Royal Scam, on the worldwide information website: www.themestream.com If you log on, just put the author's name, Rex Rutkoski, in the search box.

has suddenly moved up some and now (well, not exactly now, now i'm in the library again) i run around my house with almost gothic on "repeat", real real nice! boy (and girl), what time one needs to read every comment when absent! wedding steely songs? i vote for ALMOST GOTHIC, bride & groom shuffle their first dance and take all their guests on with some neat little steps ... anyway, if it's their party they sure have a lot to say in what music will be played, right?

i wouldn't mind that one on my own wedding, but it's most unlikely i will head in the direction of holy matrimony. the only man i ever wanted to marry, now is the proud owner of a Steely Dan-shirt (the one with the NY Subway sign)
i brought for him (at his request)from Rotterdam. imagine this, fellow strangers, he and i haven't really been on speaking terms for and since 13 years. our first conversation ever is about the Dan and bringing back a T-shirt ... well, i like things from past, present and future to balance up like this and not bad right, with the Dan in the middle of it? we also have Ricky Lee Jones in common and with that Show Bizz Kids, in the lyrics some about wearing Steely Dan T-shirts, well, who's to top this dimension then LOL ... and then i just leave the premises and find my own way again. it's who i am.
sometimes you just need to keep your dreams intact, and sometimes you can even do that in a peaceful coexistence with reality. and get down on my knees and thank the lord above for moments like that LOL

anyone know this feeling? the choice you have when you find yourself standing somewhere, someone you know passes across the street, you can call them and start a conversation or you can let them follow their own ... there are so many options in life (yes, that's what this (p)leisure time is doing to me, LOL, lots of time to think about things) you can simply make your choice and follow a lead or thread or whatever ... you can create your own happiness, that's for sure!

not being stuffed in some office and with the opportunity to walk around town every day, i meet all kinds of people i used to know, haven't seen in a long time, it's nice, smalltalk so and smile & grin such ...

most important are the Ones i used to share the very same magic with i found here on the GB, in fact, entering aboard here made me long for those spheres again, i found all of that being a Stranger and now old cycles seemed to have come alive again, in a new glance that is. hm.

i couldn't find anyone to come to dusseldorf with me and Lucy, you were right, after the SD-high came a bad, bad wave of low i had to digest, but it made me fall for Almost Gothic indefinitely.

Nono, je naam komt me zeer oosters voor, van molukse afkomst wellicht, zelf ben ik indisch en meer westers dan indisch maar met meer betrokkenheid bij molukse dingen, als ik uit mijn neutraliteit zou moeten stappen. je foto's kun je laten scannen en eventueel via mail naar St. Al sturen zodat hij het op zijn site publiceert, of je schrijft in dit GB dat mensen je kunnen mailen zodat jij de foto's weer terugstuurt.
Als je nog meer Danfans in je omgeving kent, onze overzeese vrienden zijn gastvrij en leuk, dus ...

Blaise, you seem to be on a poetic wave these days. could you rhyme your Top Tentries as well then? or will you tackle yourself in the attempt?

Okay everyone, took up enough space now. To all, enjoy your days and time. Back to a lurking mode and a Banyan Tree Bow, Gina

So it's noon (GB time) folks and 3pm Eastern. See you there, so to speak.

FYI:

STEELY DAN IN PARIS Webcast: Thursday September 21 from 9PM to 11PM (Paris Time).   Exclusive Interview with Donald and Walter in the backstage of the Olympia, plus interviews of the all band members. Views of the backstage preparation.  Exclusive footage of the live show.

Program: "Special Guest"   http://www.canalweb.net/vers/guest.html

RubyBABY - hey now! Your best friend is a socialist, not a liberal.

Dr Mu - hey now, NOW I got it, you will remind your working woman that the womans-lib situation down in Texas is terrible...

Ha! Very funny!

SHE is working, and YOU are cleaning the bathroom, SHE is mowing the lawn, the sun is shining and soon is George W Bush the president. So you guys came up with the solution at last.

Well, I guess everything is fine then.

C

Impressive...big fan of Steely Dan! Great work. Definately a bookmark site.

yes, frankly that is a terribly frightening thought but could also be just rosie...

z: remember music ? wax on about that some. wax on wax off... the waxer.

mssr lapage: i think that may be jon with the toddtext. the selection of lyrics indicate a furtherance of his previously stated toddlosophy. i didn't type 'em but i enjoyed 'em.

herm: your environmental activism here is greatly appreciated by me. those sites are instant fav-adds.

i find floridavid guilty of possession...

possession of white-man soul... the man's disc is kool and you can grab the slab (and THAT could be just rosie too) at schoolkids records.

lp: go grrrl.

wormy: "her brother michael would chase you with the spit valve open". for some reason that fired some neurons and created an instant image of that lanky bushy-haired weeping gnome, bell raised dizzy-style, all akimbo, not saying but indeed spraying it and tom, THAT was hilarious man. just killin' !

dleestan: i play a ton of receptions and dj on the breaks. try ruby baby, i.g.y., gaslighting, glamour profession. around these parts people will do a beach music dance called the shag (a shuffle, definitely not what you brits are thinking) to ruby baby particularly. glamour profession is virtually disco.

the shag... at a gig we were doing a few years ago at a large hotel, there was an african gentleman working in the kitchen. on our break he came sautering up to us in the back hall and in his best english expressed his extreme liking of our show but also his extreme puzzlement as to how we could get away with suggesting that everyone have intercourse every few tunes !!! he REALLY said the word intercourse. we still make references to the "african shag" when parties get crazee.

clas: oh, i see.

You wouldn't know a diamond even if you held it. The things you feel are precious I do not understand. We can go cruise'n down old Barham road. Sincerly Paul Hughes.

d: May I suggest for your (their) subversive pleasure Doctor Wu, Caves of Altamira, and of course The Fez. Haitian Divorce WOULD be a bit gauche though.

GB group effort please
urrhum.....u-no-hoo-u-r

HELP RESOLVE PLEASE HELP RESOLVE PLEASE HELP RESOLVE PLEASE HELP

THE STEELY DAN SONG(S); most appropriate for a wedding attended by a most mainstream circle of stiffs, fam and fiends.

My poor brother, the handsome and healthy groom (40) had thought
"BODHISATVA" mixed in with something like "PUMP IT UP"

The DEEj won't risk this unless perhaps you aim a gun at his hed.
He also thought "DEACON BLUES" (at no particular time).

At my wedding "HOME AT LAST + TIME OUT OF MIND" 8 years ago
attended by a most mainstream circle.

otherwise,

CAN I WORK SOMETHING STEELY IN THE TOAST?

http://www.onion.com/onion3633/chicago_bears_return.html

About the Chicago Bears re-union album. Very funny.

badkaraoke.

yes it was me

Bob - Aaaagh! I can't figure a way to do get to New Orleans without getting fired etc. I hope it all works out. Anything planned for San Diego November or December? BTW, I've started to collect Trib CDs. I have N. Dan (thanks Pam) and D. Steele (thanks Paul). I tried to find stuff by you guys at CDNOW the nearest match was Steeleye Spamned.

Frankfurters: That was great! Andreas, Hoops, thanks for organising. Idar, Reinhard, Carston, everyone else great to meet you. Tim, Pam, Pete & Shari - what a great summer! See you next year, what everhappens.

I see I'm not the only one that's been listening to "A Wizard, A True Star", today. Maybe that's a good sign.

Later,

Herm

nicely put, ~

And it's about time too. Don't forget not to come back.

sometimes i don't know what to feel
everything i thought that i knew starts to look so unreal
there's a ringing in my head and it keeps me awake at night
sometimes i don't know what is right
today i saw a car crush my little dog under its wheels
it did not even stop it just sped off and out of sight

sometimes i just feel so afraid
but i know that no one else has it made
so if i just believe in myself
i won't need no help from nobody else
and i can make alone
everything will be cool
i've got to keep on keeping on
there's nothing else i can do

(don't know nothin' else i can do)

sometimes i don't know what to do
someone said the world's gonna end and i think it's true
i thought there was some love in the world but i guess i'm wrong
sometimes i don't know what is right
i don't want to admit to my friends that i feel confused
i wonder what i'd do with myself if the world was gone?

something makes me stay on my feet
don't you dare admit to defeat
so if i tell myself it's alright
i can comfort myself through the night
and watch the light of day dawn
everything will be cool
i've got to keep on keeping on
there's nothing else i can do

(don't know nothin' else i can do)

but, sometimes i don't know..........
sometimes i don't know.............
sometimes i don't know what to feel

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

talk.......
you can talk........
but if you ask me
take all your big words and put them together
what good can they do
when the long day is through

does anybody love you?
do you think that anybody's in love with you?

.......the love between the ugly
is the most beautiful love of all

The ChickenMan MUST leave the house...

Congratulations!

Clas: You can't keep up with your own posts

You said: "PS/ And dr Mu, you Texas-macho, don't say a thing. Just shut up. I know that the Womans Lib-situation is terrible down there, so don't even think about it..."

I said: "Clas: the women are all at work. I'll remind them while I'm cleaning the bathroom tonight."

Any questions?

P.S. I clean bathrooms more than my lovely wife and she mows the lawn more often. So what? They get done, and if that's the definition of civilization - I'll take it.

Z, you are contradicting yourself. How can one both COMMAND respect and EARN it? Perhaps 'require' was not the best word. It does sound uberodious. OK, then, one must EARN respect.

til next time

if you are only oppressing yourself

is anybody burned

it certainly can get deep around here quickly

hopeless romantic stuck inside a womanizing gaze

Z

Bridges burnt behind closed doors leave space where door once stood hinged on a memory of possibility and the irrefragable truth that Good is and good enough can never be.

Truth is, honesty is the treasure.

charmed, i'm sure.

Clas - Your wife's remarks were the most honest I've seen in this gb in a while....OUCH! Do we dare speak so irreverently of the D&W? I say Yes, Yes and Yes.

People worthy of respect never "require" it -- they do what they must to COMMAND it...

Everyone knows when they're being oppressed, the trick is to know when you're OPPRESSING. And there's nothing MORE oppressing, than someone who EXPECTS respect without EARNING IT.

Diver, coming up for air? Lots of hot air around here - now to add my share...

Zarathustra, lp, and anybody out there -- nobody's perfect! (as my oops wrong keystroke so conveniently illustrates) Anyone who thinks they can find the perfect relationship/marriage is buying into some misguided Hollywood ideal. I just do the best I can and expect my mate to do the same. I don't expect to be the center of his universe to the exclusion of all else, and I hope he wouldn't expect that of me. But I do require R-E-S-P-E-C-T! Believe me I KNOW when I'm being oppressed. Been there, done that. Got over it and moved on.

OK, someone else can have the podium (odium?) now.

Bubble bubble bubble bubble bubble bubble bubble bubble bubble bubble bubble................oops!! time to surface!

The mechanized hum of another world. Plenty of sun AND no red light flashing!

The oppressed live and learn, as the oppressors do a slow burn.

and is there a problem with that?

me thinkith not

the kid will live and learn
as he watches his bridges burn

and that's from a womanizer who would give it all up for a lifetime of true love.

top ten reasons you wouldn't leave your wife/lover for a SD bare midrifter

10) it would offend aja who has so much faith in you
9) you can't stand Caberet
8) seeing other guys oggling your girl onstage makes you violent and scary
7) they are so above your league it isn't funny
6) you really only want her so you can scrap with SFK and Wormy
5) her brother Michael would chase you with spit valve open
4) if she sings and looks that well, she must be lousy at something
3) Don and Walt have already sampled the merchandise
2) your money and flair would run out in an hour or two
1) what a shame about me

No longer a shepherd, no longer human -- a transformed being, surrounded with light, LAUGHING! Never yet on earth had any man laughed as he laughed.

LP-take heart: NOBODY looks like they did when they were 22! You can't have it all so you have to pick where to channel your limited energy, and some things will just fall by the wayside. The babe choir (Steely Dan's, that is) is young, single and childless-they won't be looking like they do in 10 years either.

Anyone remember "The Full Monty"? How the guys suddenly became self-conscious of their bodies when they realized they were going to be compared to the Chippendale guys, and subject to the same oggling behavior they routinely dished out without second thought? It does go both ways.

I view this admiration of the babe choir as just a diversion for our GB men. They may admire those scantily clad gals with no bulges, but I don't think they'd give up what they've built through the years with their wives/lovers for one of them. I know some smart-ass has got to post to the contrary, but I know better and have faith in the men here!

Aja

Craig - so you are enjoying that Mediterranian flair - great

not me on the Todd quote but I sympathize/synthesize completely

vulnerability - you caught me Roy

toodles from the topsoil

Tom

to add a wrench to my analysis of the life i created for myself - i really want to be in the choir - i can dance, but can't sing.

she'll treat you fine....she'll love you twice....

UGGHHHHHHHHH! LOL

Zarathustra - 'in the clasroom' - calling Dr Freud

Clas, that 6 hours was a guess; I knew England was 5 hours and Greece was 7 hours. You know Battery Park? Cool! It's a neat little place. Do you know Wreck Beach? I'll give you a hint, it's not in Burlington.

The GB babe choir is coming along nicely.

Zarathustra - 'in the clasroom' - nice typo!

Clas, that 6 hours was a guess; I knew England was 5 hours and Greece was 7 hours. You know Battery Park? Cool! It's a neat little place. Do you know Wreck Beach? I'll give you a hint, it's not in Burlington.

The GB babe choir is coming along nicely.

we're on our way

don't yell at me, i'm sorry, i thought SD-fans had an element of hyper-intelligence to them.....

sue me if i play too long

I got a/ bad case of stomach flu!

Oooooeeey, can't catch up with all the postings in the last couple days but I want to say this :

When I last posted on a Sunday night, I didn't know it but I was coming down with the stomach flu. It made me very grouchy, but I didn't know that either!
So I appologize to the liberals here (most of y'all.) Some of my bestest friends are liberals.

It's Liberalism that I think is destructive. That's different, you know.

You can't compare Texas with the rest of the Union! Never could.

Gentleman Loser: Your dream was great! I perceive that your dream is one of preparation. But first you deal with a couple of things from your past. You integrate them into your present quite smoothly. Then you take a little trip to the future. How interesting and accurate, those machines could handle every detail except where humans interact with each other. What does it all mean? I don't know, but I think the 2 black singers in the bus were angels, dude. They've been known to enter dreams before. Keep asking. Seek and you shall find...

I just heard Miso 1 by (Keith) Weir. It sounds a lot like Peg.
Anyone else notice that?

rb

Closure? You want closure? You can't HANDLE closure. Why not make an OPENING instead of looking for ways OUT. Start by asking yourself what on fucking earth you think you're talking about when you say "realities of life," "underlying tension," and "basic primal needs for procreation." Basic primal needs!?!?!

oh hello.....

Can I just begin to bring a little closure to this sex thing and say - what is frustrating for me is I am trying to keep up the pace of a highly charged public position (and I do make more than my husband, yes - and he'd like it if I made even more), getting my kids to daycare/school/stepdancing/etc, keep a house so as to not attract vermine/local board of health, and still manage to pull myself together to look halfway attractive not just for my husband, but for my own well-being - so when someone like me watches a group like you slobbering over the back-up singers (and they are wonderful, so it's nothing against them - women do need to stick together better than we do), I feel like saying yeah, if I had their schedule, I could work out for two hours a day and look that good too; they probably don't even do their own laundry. It's just the realities of life, I know, and sometimes it gets to me. How come men don't see the realities of life for us? I just can't do it all at all times but there's an underlying tension from outside sources that makes me feel like I should. The sad thing is my husband is more of a particpant in these daily life activities than most - but there still is some tension as to why I don't look like I did at 22, now when I'm 35. I can only imagine what goes on for other women, deep down I realize I'm luckier than most women, but that's a little sad.

I think there's a continued struggle with the basic primal needs for procreation and the provisions for food and shelter that differ for men and women, coupled, if you will, with the socio-economic conditions of today.

how about those red sox?

whining stranger....with time to kill

that is.

|||||||||| - yes, six hours.

Amazing, didn't you know that? It wasn't long ago you thought the end of the world were somewhere beyond Battery Park, right?

Blaise - sleep? Oh, I remember that one, sorry pal. I know what you mean.

Yes, I mean what you mean. Let's skip this hard writing stuff now? My brain is aching.

Zarathustra - yeah, you have heard that. And where did you hear that from? You heard it from ME.

You heard it from me, and that means that you don't know shit.

Got it?

Goodnight fellows,

C

I would love to be a member of the GB "Babe Choir". I would have to rely on talents other than singing, though. Was definitely not blessed with the voice of an angel. Been known to send my 3 year old running and screaming from a room with my rendition of "Row, Row, Row Your Boat". Nothing beats the honest criticisms of a child. Perhaps I could just stand in back and lip-synch.

LucyB

What is this, a Michener novel? I miss a few days and I'm unrecoverably behind. I'll catch up when one of you English majors comes up with daily Guestbook Cliff notes.

Hank Silvers and Desultory Phil (may I call you Phil)~Good call on the Simon and Garfunkel Ayn Rand reference. Yes, "Simple Desultory Phillipic" and "Subterranean Homesick Blues" were great cerebral rap songs; my personal favorite in the folk-rap genre was "Highway 61 Revisited".

Dr. Mu~I laughed openly and in an undignified manner when I saw your subliminal reference to the line "It would depress us, Karl.", perhaps Randy Newman's funniest line. For those who aren't familiar with the full context of the line, the singer's singing to Karl Marx, and says,
"I'm glad I'm living in the land of the free,
where the rich just get richer, and the poor you don't even have to see.
(It would depress us, Karl.)"

worm~ "vulnerability"- an indefineable quality that women with great bodies seem to have.

Jim~Thanks for the political support. 'Most eloquent bum' is a title to which I have long aspired. If elected, I need the job.

Thanks for the tour, Messrs. Becker and Fagen and supporting cast. I'll live to 'see you next year' or die trying.

RS

Yeah but we've heard how your wife controls you too, with your mock celebration not-too-well veiling your condescension and defeat. Don't think you socialists are any LESS pussywhipped than these capitalist p(r)igs. If anything, the smoke's already cleared over there, and your outcome is no "improvement."

I will give ya this: Americans DO hide in their naivete and denial. Yes, as a matter of fact, much the way WOMEN typically do.

One other thing brother in leers, don't imagine the distinction between culture and nature is so clear-cut. It ain't. Whether yer doin biology or microchips, yer ALREADY doin culture.

We may feel about to fall
but we go down fighting

You will hear the call
if you only listen

Underneath it all we are
here together shining still

Clas - If you mean an unconscious desire to remain, to cheat death, governed by the id , I agree. Can't sleep, can't think these days... what do you want?

David Moore = Floridavid (the artist formerly known as David in the Florida Room)
Malcolm Hunter = ygk

greeneearrings, I think Paris is about 6 hours ahead of USA but someone correct me if I'm wrong. And -LOL- whoops, I guess sexism IS alive and well as I assumed you were female from your GB name! I beg your pardon, fine sir! You and Blaise can join the choir too. I came up with the choir idea in reaction to the testosterone surge on the board (OTOH, if we quelched all expressions of appreciation for the female form we'd have to do the same for the male form and I'm enjoying reading all about Walt and Don... to me the most attractive thing about each of them is their musical brilliance; if it weren't for that, none of us would be having this conversation) so even though the idea was a lark, I've been jonesing to sing some SD tunes with others but seeing as we are spread across the country and around the globe it is not likely to become a reality just a pipe dream so to speak... but if a dan jam session is possible I would be interested... I would like to try Only A Fool Would Say That, have we got any tenors here? Just a note, I am not trying to invade any turf here on SD cover bands, just having a bit of fun...

dr Mu - remind them of what? Are you changing the world while you for once in your life are cleaning the bathroom? It takes more than that. Don't respond to me in that typical clueless, naive, gringo-way.

I hold you higher than that.

Blaise - "I like her, we have incredibly stimulating conversations but can she bear a robust child? That is the question."

Am I silly? Didn't you GET it? This is exactly my point. We are no animals, we are attracted to other things too. But scratch on the thin civilazationsurface, wich wouldn't be too hard to do in USA, and you will find yourself and your animalinsticts walk hand in hand.

C

no one wanted to hurt you
no one thought you a fool

how painfully i read your words
love so sincerely felt
knowing it was not returned
like you thought it to be

i said as much as i could
friends extended their hands
this thing was not planned

someone's beginning
another's end
the circle continues on
blindly
on its way to completion
somewhere

Clas: the women are all at work. I'll remind them while I'm cleaning the bathroom tonight.

http://www.boringinstitute.com/recentevents/15antiboredom.html

what are the gb names for David moore and malcolm hunter?

Somehow...................

Some Way....................

We need just one victory and we're on our way!

Prayin' for it all day........................

and fightin' for it all night....................

give us just one victory, it will be alright!

Hey,

I don't know why I never suggested this before, but here is a website that could benefit greatly from daily visits by as many people as possible. If you go to this:

http://www.therainforestsite.com

and give it one click, you give a free donation of land paid for by various sponsers. Then, at the top of the page are two other tabs, one is the Hunger Site, which donates staple food to needy people, and the other is the Kids Aids Site, which donates time. Give each one a click and help. The amount of each individual donation may seem small, but with the help of many people, I'm sure it grows pretty big.

Another site is - webreleaf.com - which plants a tree with each daily click. It akes maybe thirty seconds a day, so give it a try, okay? Cool.

This message paid for by the member of Hermit Unlimited, and also by the remaining members of the Spice Girls.

Later,

Herm

And, oh yeah, Todd DOES rule. Although, in a skirmish with Don and Walt, I'd have to go with the numbers. Todd's not much of a fighter, and Don seems pretty scrappy.

give us just one victory indeed

Tom, Nice is BEAUTIFUL! We drove over during the night. The weather's great and the coastline is something out of an amazing dream!
We left JMoney in Italy with his new Italian flame. Let's hope he makes it back! lol

Tom was that you with the fucking great Todd lyric or is StevieDan poking his head in for a special day visit?

Hey Fondo, have you resorted to posting again to kill time? Are you bored already? This Voodoo lounge thing sounds like FUN & TROUBLE! Na Na.....you should have stayed ;-)

I'm off for a some late afternoon walking and we're all going to dinner tonight at this really fab outdoor cafe. I could get used to this stuff. Perhaps I'll look for houses tomorrow?! LOL

Craig

We've been waiting so long..............
We've been waiting soooooooooo long..............
We've been waiting for the sun to rise and shine.......
shining still..........give us the will.............

Can you hear me?
The sound of my voice?
I am here to tell you
I have made my choice.
I've been listening
to what's been going down.
There's just too much talk
and gossip going 'round.

You may think that I'm a fool
But I don't need answers.
Words become a tool.
Anyone can use them.
Take the Golden Rule.
As the best example.
Eyes that have seen
will know what I mean.

top ten signs this guestbook is undersexed

10) someone right now is checking all back issues of playboy from 20 years ago for a gaze at the hips that bore Miss Victoria
9) skully was right, horndogs all of you
8) the courting match has escalated into booked flights and macho gestures
7) internet scans of the Caberet and Al Jarreau's touring schedules emminent
6) who the hell is Don Quixote?
5) the sexual staying power of Mr Herrington can't be far off in GB discussion
4) Brother Michael makes a guest appearance on the Gb to protect his sibling
3) Alley McBeal reruns watched ad nauseum
2) a silk aqua velvet scarf purchased, the start of heavy
1) GB Babylon Sisters shake it indeed

apologized or cleared the air

takeith your pickith

come on mr telepathy hone in that antenni, it's

giles what are you doing up so early this morning?

just what are you doing up so early this morning?

T or wormness

Tom - You apologized??? And what's that gwaydusetm and the others? I need a glossary.

top ten signs your game as a male backing musician in Steely Dan

12) you've already moved upstate and you have no idea of changing your bait
11) you play trombone, no lady hits on a trombonist
10) you have no large armadillo in your pants
9) you signed the waver for no intraband dating
8) you have no clue on a sexy ass, or are not allowed to turn around onstage
7) your shoulders are anything but broad
6) you are overprotective of your sister, who is a hottie and hired strictly for such by DF and WB
5) all that session work you did never went to your head as you are not the primo phizz eck oh abdominal specimen
4) you don't demand a long show off solo to steal the potential one nighters from Don and Walt
3) your so good looking, but sleeping in the subways has tarnished that somehow
2) your skin is the palest of whites
1) you have to stand behind the guitar players amps

gwaydusetm?

ah the guestbook is being stirred up vigorously

Skully great observations - oversexed GB males
out of control on the GB - or perhaps this extreme is really just good clean fun

I'm afraid I'm partly to blame, but really, do forgive me
It is so hard to come up with Top Ten Lists when we have no new Dan fodder to digress on. So the 10 or 12 gravitate to the babe choir - do forgive me

Sir Steven Dan - true love of a Don Quixote variety
how nice to see the worm fetish portrayed in such light, thank you my friend.

actually what attracted me to Vicki, and it was months before I heard any other of you yoddelers gushing her name, was her incredibly sexy sense of vulnerability. That comment where she says that "Don reminds her of her father, very shy and funny"... ooops, smitten

there, I'm better now, and will carry onward with the highest degree of constraint

continue

wt

you walked in

Rotterdam
@6AM EST

Walter

"What a great fuckin' crowd !"

Don interjects:

"what a whacky city"

All agreed Sound was GREAT! + guest bass player for jam w/ the gang.

Need sleep, more hash, please

"Men are attracted to women who are pretty so they can bear a healthy, robust child for them." Hunter and collector tribal fantasy? Hmmm... I like her, we have incredibly stimulating conversations but can she bear a robust child? That is the question. Pfffff

Posting here would make YOUR woman a GB member de facto. Yet you have to speak for her. Liberated yet owned swedish females? Is that what we're left to infer here?

Jim - thanks, but "mellow..."???

And look here:

"Mock Turtle

Down with social psychology

Date: Tuesday, September 19, 19100 at 16:36:46

Comments:

Actually, that's B freaking S. Women are attracted to men who will be able to take care of them. Hence, the attraction to rich or powerful men (ie D + W). Men are attracted to women who are pretty so they can bear a healthy, robust child for them. Of course, women choose men for this too, but it's lower on the priority list. It's all biology, man."

I believe there is truth in that.

We all KNOW that it is truth in that.

But we live in a civilization, we don't want to be animals so we deny it.

Skully - Miz Ducky - after my last post I saw, when I scrolled down, that you already had brought up this "feminist"-issue.

Let me say a couple of things;

I mean what I say, those thougts from the woman in my family are true.

But, maybe their thoughts don't belong here, they are no "members" of the GBook.

BUT, I posted them anyway, guess why?

C

Clas: Disenfranchised - being deprived of normal rights as a citizen. Though the popular definition tends to mean someone who has been around long enough to be pissed off at the current state of affairs, but mellow enough to not have a wild reaction to them.

Jim - before I say "thanks pal", what is "disenfranchasied"?

Miz Ducky - his lips, strange. What IS it with his lips, my wife has a thing for them too.

KD - cool, I email you.

Stevie Dan - "'fields of gray', i believe he means graveyards..."

Of course he does. What I mean is; when you don't have English as your first language, and you hear a line there, and you see the title Fields of Gray, you just, without knowing it, you are making your own... imagines...

Hell, what am I sitting here saying?

I think this is what Oleander have tried to explain to me for years now.

AND ABOUT THOSE BACKUPsingers, the redhead and the other two.

The woman in my family was VERY disappointed with mr Fagen and mr Becker. They think they are sexists:

"You don't expect such sexbabbling from bright, clever men when they presents the woman in the band.

1. Did they pick mr Ted Baker for his sexy ass?

2. Did they pick mr Bumpus for his good looks?

3. Did they pick mr Herrington for his broad shoulders?

No.

They didn't pick their male-musicians for their good looks. And still they have to have a kind of Bimbo-looking choire?

Was these woman the best at the audition?

Our guess is that Sweden is far ahead when it comes to womans lib and such things like equal salary (wich is the main-issue in the feminist-debate).

So we get a little surprised when bright intellectual men from, let's say, USA, talks about woman in a condescending way."

C

PS/ And dr Mu, you Texas-macho, don't say a thing. Just shut up. I know that the Womans Lib-situation is terrible down there, so don't even think about it...

I am just trying to save you ass, you are dealing with SWEDISH woman now, so back off.

I read it. I need a fucking dictionary to understand you sometimes. So are you saying that men are not quite as shallow as they seem? I pick men for the turn on, not needing money from a man is a blessing, I have always gone to who turned me on.

Yeah, the shit i wrote doesn t really apply to you... I'm saying men ARE as shallow as they seem, and women are even SHALLOWER.

I see, I know it does not apply to me, but I can't help applying it to myself as reading it. It is the experience again. Are you really angry at women? It must be hard for men to want to fuck all the time, and still have to do the dance of intimacy to get the pussy.

Intimacy, REAL intimacy BUILDS culture and is beautiful. But woman want intimacy as much as they want truth -- not at all. They fear real intimacy as much as they fear men. They SAY intimacy; they MEAN safety. They want to "know" only enough to feed the fantasies of security. They want the gestures that reassure them that they are SAFE; secure to focus on children. A condition NEVER conducive to intimacy. Fortunately, as a fair penalty for neglecting truth, women rarely get to WANT TO FUCK ALL THE TIME. In any event, by the time they learn this, their pussy-whipped husbands are all but gone, if they were ever there...

Well I hope most women are not in that plight. I suppose a fair amount are though. Thank god that I have never needed a man to feel safe. I guess a healthy person feels safe from just being with themselves. I sometimes only feel unsafe if I open up to a man and he abuses my trust.

Women don't go to men IN ORDER TO feel safe; they need men for carrying out the kid story. THEN THEY WORRY THEY MAY NOT BE SAFE W I T H THEM. Intimacy means getting OVER THAT FEAR that he may abuse your trust. Another way of getting to the same place in a rather more intellectual way is to ask: Trust for what? Trust THAT what?

I surrenderd and felt trust and intimacy, and every time the men in my life abused my trust. Now I know better than to trust a man, I now feel that the next time I am in relationship I will be in an open one that it is expected that sooner or later he will want strange pussy and it will be ok with me as long as he makes sure I am full first.

I think that is an exceedingly mature and enlightened, if somewhat confused position to take.

i'm gonna side with you ladies here (lp, skully in to kick some ass like her namesake, and others). none of the gentlemen in the band were hired for the armadillos in their trousers (i don't think anyway... it's not like i looked). the Steely Dan Vocal Ensemble is a most serious organization, possibly being taken too lightly here and there. now the worm is different because his is True Love of the don quixote variety, pure with a twinge of the carnal. as the very proud father of two highly intellegent, talented, independent (yeah we know) daughters i can only hope that men will continue to see women as something other than eye candy and sex objects, which also brings me to...

the totally unsolicited, probably unwanted, yet free advice dept:

kd, until you get past the "dividing my earnings" part, do not even consider marriage. at times she may EVEN make more money than you. in twenty years, i've seen both sides of that coin. it NEVER mattered and we were better for it.

richard thanx for the heads up. if anyone has one of dem fancy watches, please convert paris time to to maybe e.d.t. is that even still thursday ?

did anyone here dig the old brit-com "the young ones". that show (all 8 or 10 episodes) was funny as hell.

oh and wasn't that "Rydell High" instead of "Slidell" ? and i also have managed to avoid all but a few scenes of that nauseating movie.

clas, man i didn't mean to cause you pause in the street. you've had to kick too many cars this week as it is. you'll hate me but i saw hornsby WITH jackson browne, raitt, & colvin together. hornsby almost stole the show. spirit trail is a fabulous album and my favorite tune on it is "fortunate son" ! "i may have to just go out and burn one". what a line. somebody needed to say it. now not meaning to step on your imagery of the confederacy or close hand to hand inhumanity to man, but by "fields of gray", i believe he means graveyards. the gray being the monuments and tombstones. we will visit these places together, again and again as we must inevitably. his description of checking on his kids at night and understanding that we can not absolutely ensure their OR our future just kills me and he sucker punches you with those stacked fourth chords. i don't even need to hear that song, just thinking it overwhelms me. one of those "why couldn't i have written that" things.

floridave i am cracking your disc right now, but i'll let the hornsby clear out first.

Ahem. I mean, amen.

As a veteran of much table-dancing and sidewalk-hugging after being thrown out of tawdry joints for excess DanFest excess, I am way in for the Babe-ylon Sister Choir. However, I will share with absolutely no one what it is that makes a man attractive to me. On second thought, I think I did once.

Gotta come up with something to do now that tour's over.

Congratulations to the Y2K SD Orchestra for a season well done.

On to the R&RHOF!

Walt & Don you are the men...... The hall of fame is just around the corner. Thanks for making the finest music I have ever heard. Keep it up Boys.

Chat Anyone?

COME! work for us in washington.

COME! work for us in washington.

OK, on 3...women of the GB start licking your ice cream cones

I think it's a healthy shakedown for everyone here to let loose with a sexual duggery, especially after what might have been a frustrating summer. The fall, however, is already kicking ass.

I always though Donald was a good looking dude, weird considering I know people who have called him the ugliest man they had ever seen. I've always liked that angular rock star look (although Fagen's the biggest non-rock star that ever came out of the 70s). Something that makes scrawny, pasty, 5'6" Mick Jagger more attractive than tall, tanned, built Brad Pitt.

I like this:

"Her senior thesis, "The Essence of Why", won acclaim from stoners all over the Greater Rochester/Buffalo area."

...from Carolyn's bio. I'm wondering who was it that took the piss out of her. Did the Drone do that, or did Leonhart write that herself? I'm guessing Drone went around all summer asking players to take the time and write up bios about themselves, and it's hard to write about yourself without sounding like Mr. or Mrs. Ego. Don't I know it.

8 I's in one post!

Ecce Homo - I knew you were going to say that!

You may be right, but that's more than can be said for you.

KD will remind you that, as a teenager, a female GBer entertained him with her dream of Walter "giving it to her sideways on the beach". As far as I know, no male here went this far yet. Unless you count Ballah as a man which is kind of a stretch, really.

Rumblestrip - And I have been starving myself for weeks just so I could show my navel without shame. Sexism is alive and well in America. lol

About the multiple posts but the wild baby loves to attack the keyboard and it just happened when he did just that.

G.E.

Idiot.

Rumble, you said;

Let's form our own babe choir. Are you with me, Aja, Altamira, cara mia, chere, Gina, greeneearrings, Jane Lightning, Lisa G, luckless pedestrian, LucyB, Miz Ducky, Oleander, Rachel, Robin, ruby baby, and any others?

It sounds like a great idea except for one thing...I would be the only middle aged, balding, nearsighted, slightly overweight MALE in the bunch. Now that I think of it, maybe I would enjoy this very much. What are we gonna sing???

Thanks for the invite anyway.

Can anyone calculate 9PM Paris time for us phillistines here in the states?

Glad you survived the big wind Dave and Q. Just a little summer rain I suppose.

Hello to the others out there in Dan and Lurker land.

Peace

G.E.

Rumble, you said;

Let's form our own babe choir. Are you with me, Aja, Altamira, cara mia, chere, Gina, greeneearrings, Jane Lightning, Lisa G, luckless pedestrian, LucyB, Miz Ducky, Oleander, Rachel, Robin, ruby baby, and any others?

It sounds like a great idea except for one thing...I would be the only middle aged, balding, nearsighted, slightly overweight MALE in the bunch. Now that I think of it, maybe I would enjoy this very much. What are we gonna sing???

Thanks for the invite anyway.

Can anyone calculate 9PM Paris time for us phillistines here in the states?

Glad you survived the big wind Dave and Q. Just a little summer rain I suppose.

Hello to the others out there in Dan and Lurker land.

Peace

G.E.

Rumble, you said;

Let's form our own babe choir. Are you with me, Aja, Altamira, cara mia, chere, Gina, greeneearrings, Jane Lightning, Lisa G, luckless pedestrian, LucyB, Miz Ducky, Oleander, Rachel, Robin, ruby baby, and any others?

It sounds like a great idea except for one thing...I would be the only middle aged, balding, nearsighted, slightly overweight MALE in the bunch. Now that I think of it, maybe I would enjoy this very much. What are we gonna sing???

Thanks for the invite anyway.

Can anyone calculate 9PM Paris time for us phillistines here in the states?

Glad you survived the big wind Dave and Q. Just a little summer rain I suppose.

Hello to the others out there in Dan and Lurker land.

Peace

G.E.

obviously this guy needs to come to terms with his latent homosexuality. a good thing too, since he knows so little about women.

Actually, that's B freaking S. Women are attracted to men who will be able to take care of them. Hence, the attraction to rich or powerful men (ie D + W). Men are attracted to women who are pretty so they can bear a healthy, robust child for them. Of course, women choose men for this too, but it's lower on the priority list. It's all biology, man.

It's the unanimity that distinguishes male ogling from female. There's a profound convergence of taste among males toward clear and present sexual dimorphism. Not so with women. Fagen's lips? What are you fucking nuts? On a woman, they could be viewed as nothing but ugly. Depending on just how much drive (or testosterone) they have, women typically unconsciously renounce a uniform sexual attraction scale in favor of signals that tell her she can now, finally, stop "fighting," which today means turn off the thinking contraption -- her mind. She converts anything that will allow her to suspend fresh engagement with the world to "sexy." "Progress" is made when, in her 40s or so, she begins to cease being embarrassed about choosing a man because of the bulge in his pants or the breadth of his shoulders, and chooses him NOT apologetically, under her breath, but as men now select Vicki for her body -- quite reflexively and unselfconsciously.

Women's idiosyncratic taste in men is a sign of their subordinate position in relation to men. Akin to finding one's own "bliss," it is a sign, par excellence, of shallowness and dishonor, to find beauty in personal salvation. Men, on the contrary, having the cultural advantage of a certain honor training (increasingly muted in the contemporary West), tend toward self-loathing (or meekness) when selecting women on idiosyncratic grounds. They may settle for the best piece of ass they can get and marry her, but of course, ten years later when they can "command" a better one, they wander. It goes without saying that as one moves up the hierarchy among men, that MERELY having a Vicki type body is not enough, and the bar keeps rising as the man holds her to character, intelligence and accomplishment standards as well.

Hey JWM-maybe we could have some sort of montage of our "babe choir" in the new GB compilation? Just a thought, if all the rest of my Babylon Sistahs are game. After all, if those 3 can do it.....

And tho I can fit into an aqua velvet dress, I'd trade that for singing skills in a heartbeat. Let's have a great turnout on the CD from the women this year!

Aja

The hall of fame announced 16 nominees today. Eight of them, including aerosmith, steely dan and lou reed, have been nominated in previous years. The foundation usually chooses five to seven inductees each year and honors them at a ceremony in march.

Woo hoo! We're goin' to the state championships!

Collin.

Aja ~ Carolyn's got nothing on you!

skully: I'm there--shoot, I've already been singing the parts for years anyway! Hmm, now if I can only figure out how to carry a tune...

Quoth Skully--

"You don't hear us women mention ... the sly sexy way Donald tips his head slightly as he sings"

Weeeelllll ... okay, it's been awhile since I posted at all, let alone gone on in this venue about my own personal horndoggedness over our beloved Mr. Fagen, but those of you who have been reading for awhile now know how I've gone on at some length about how Donald transforms into a total sex bomb when he slides behind the Rhodes or sidles up to the microphone. Something in the way he holds his head, fer sure ... and the way he strides the stage ... not to mention the way he unabashedly blisses out while listening to another bandmember solo ... besides which, IMO he's got just about the sexiest mouth in this world and several others (gotta love those wrap-around lips--mmm mmm mmmm!)

There. Howzat for upping the estrogen side of the GB hormonal frenzy? :-)

Oh, heh, and count me in on the GB Grrl Choir. No slight whatsoever on the graces of Ms's Cave, Leonhart, or Calhoun, but despite my not being built like any of those lovelies I remain supremely confident in my own abilities to shake it like a Babylon Sistah should.

/the Mam'zelle
gee, this is so much more exciting that the stuff I'm supposed to be doing at work right now

p.s. If I've got the time-difference right, the last notes of the last show of the 2vN Tour should be grooving their way into history right now. Good night and drive safely, boys and girls ...

Clas: The more I read, the more sense you make. Are you of the forty plus year, disenfranchised sort? Bless your heart. And I thought I would be the last to say................

CarolynL: These lads, these larks, fear not honey, you're the one, and honey I'll be there, yes I'll be there

Lucy: It's up to you and me to create the new frontier on this venerable board of gem submitting wizards. My best regards, and good luck.

Thank you, Skully. Been waiting for some female regular to speak their mind about all this. As you said, you don't hear us gushing about the sexiness of Walt, Donald & crew. (And don't get the wrong idea -- they are VERY SEXY to women, no doubt.) Walt could hop into my bed anytime! (As long as my husband's not in it). His (Walt, not my husband) sexiness is not based on his hairline (obviously) or tight abs (obviously) but on his creativity, his intelligence, his wicked sense of humor, that bulge in his pants (no, no -- I didn't mean that!). Now to me that's sexy. But do you really want to hear about all of that? Over and over and over?
Sorry to invade, I won't bother you guys again. Just felt compelled to speak!

top ten qualifications for GB babe choir

10) no requirements based on physical appearance
9) if you happen to look like a model we won’t discriminate
8) singers are encouraged to share their musical talent
7) non-singers may find another way to contribute - perhaps play a percussion or other instrument, dance, etc.
6) must have an abiding interest in SD
5) must have a mind that’s more than applesauce
4) you can wear any color you want
3) you can wear sweatpants or strapless, as long as you’re comfortable
2) no age requirement
1) must be female (sorry, blaise!)

rumblestrip-I'm in as long as I get to wear aqua and nobody can hear me sing!

gentleman loser-one more reason to do triathlons: it's the closest thing us average Joes/Janes have to feeling like an Olympian.

Mr. LaPage-he's in much better spirits today! Have a chianti and then a kiwi for all of us jealous Dannites here.

Aja

thank you skully, i was feeling alone in my ills with this place.....

babe group? sure, why not - but you understand that's not the point, it's just I never get why men slather over women they have no chance of meeting, or even upon an acquaintance have little or no chance of successful seduction? i'm sure you men out there in the gb are fetching, but these fine women likely have goals of their own.

oh no, what have i started?..........

i'm going home after negotiating a few settlements, yelling at construction workers to re-do their sidewalk installation, and gently telling my supervisor how best to manage a testy situation to bake cookies, bathe my children, help with homework, make quite the decent meal, then proceed to wear a french maid outfit and sip a martini while giving my husband a foot massage - how do you like that?........

You do his nine to five drag yourself home half alive, and there on the screen a man with a dream

skully, my apologies for leaving you off the list...

KD, thanks for answering my query.

SFK, thanks for the recipe.

kid charlemagne, welcome to the Victoria Cave Fan Guestbook.

Let's form our own babe choir. Are you with me, Aja, Altamira, cara mia, chere, Gina, greeneearrings, Jane Lightning, Lisa G, luckless pedestrian, LucyB, Miz Ducky, Oleander, Rachel, Robin, ruby baby, and any others?

the testosterone levels here on the GB have certainly risen lately, what is with the men on this list?

You don't hear us women mention the bulge in Walt's trousers or the sly sexy way Donald tips his head slightly as he sings.

Yes Miss Cave is lovely, and Wormy who knows her mom may still live in New Orleans. You won't be able to suavely impress her with your N.Orleans venacular but you can stalk the house and wait for her to come for a visit after the tour. Don't look to the Guestbook for bail money or sympathy

Studio or special appearance? Studio

ever lurking Skully

couldn't help but notice that the photographic credit for Cynthia Calhoun's pic was Amanda Parks.

And Carolyn Leonhart's bio is damn impressive, and she's gorgeous, too.

In my next life......

Aja

Right about now our heros are playing their last scheduled date in Germany.

Dare we hope for any special unscheduled events back here stateside before the end of the year? Or perhaps its right to work on the new, new one in the studio (after a well earned rest). The new live one? Mere mortals are left to wonder.

Whatever they do its alright with me. What a great and glorius year of Dantopia. All the cool people, the places, the music....ahhhh the music.

Thanks boys and girls of SD2000 for a job well done.

See ya next year?

uncle!

"who is Victoria Cave?"

Answer is a Daily Double

very nicely played.

I'll wager all of it Alex

Okay, here's the question

"What red headed singer has performed Broadway works of Pete Townsend's Tommy and Steely Dan vocals to Gaslighting Abbey?

"I'll take 'Redheaded Singers on Tour' for $5,000, Alex"

for shaky "behind" the scenes try

http://www.steelydan.com/Images/2k/europe/berlingirls2.jpeg

it's time for Aja to run to "The Second Arrangement"

So, Vicky Cave's mom was a Playboy bunny, according to her new bio on the SD page! And her dad was a jazz musician. That explains the talent, and the looks, I guess!!

signs you have been salivating too much over the babe choir

12) you haven't posted anything on the Gb in two weeks that involves a SD song analysis
11) you send garmets to SD headquarters with the phrase "wear this in Vegas"
10) you are short of breath when you post on the GB
9) you're willing to fight to the death another GBer with the hots for Cynthia, Vicki or Carolyn
8) You tried to bribe Pete Fogel for real backstage revealing photos
7) Walter has your number and is about to lay out an "intrafan" banning magna carta with your name and the words "must stay 500 ft away from Miss Cave" on it
6) you keep looking for the multi camera angle (fully stage right) on the Sony Plush Jazz DVD
5) new superhero - Aqua Velvet Man
4) you check the Official SD website photo section hourly
3) you have a Village Voice sent to check the fall Cabaret schedule in NYC
2) your SD tour setlist includes notes on level of navel and cleavage potential
1) you missed all of Herrington and Becker's solo's as your neck was bent the other way

ttftg, witoc

top 10 reasons for aja to spend a weekend in las vegas

10.she thought she knew 'the way to san jose' but took a wrong turn somewhere near victorville
9.she detects the el supremo from his room at the top of the stairs and she EXPECTS him to 'comp' her rooms
8.the cute little cocktail waitresses serve her black cows in welsh's flintstone-themed jelly glasses with one of those curley-cue straws
7.when she throws out her gold teeth to see how they roll they come up snake eyes every goddamned time and the craps pit is wild (can anybody say "do not pass line?")
6.'a case of aces done up lose for dealing' is the gift she asks for each night after praying; 'now i lay me down to sleep......' (to bad god's not some charmer from brooklyn like some people she knows!)
5.a midnight at the oasis is better than a day in I-5 traffic
4.the 50th floor perch of the voodoo lounge is a long way to fall
if any hapless new yorker happens to approach her with any hackneyed bar-trolling lines
3.she's half italian and that's righteous enough for the local goodfellas to initiate her into the 'gun moll' club when she hit's cleopatra's barge at caesar's replete with oakley shades, clutch-purse and sleek black leather (did she just give you the goodbye look? ........so long sucker!)
2.she knows how to wall dance and drink jello-tequila shots at the same time without ever taking her hands from her hips (lance burton; eat your heart out!)
1.a girl can get lonely out there on her own but there'll always be someone waiting anxiously for her to come HOME

steven

throw out your gold teeth and see how they roll

MU, MU, MU - Stock answers, what a novel idea!

LP - timg... well, I'll let you figure it out.

Monsieur Benhaim - Vous pouvez compter sur notre appui. On est tous en periode de desintox ici, vous savez. C'est comme offrir un fix aux junkies du quartier. Bonne chance avec le nouveau medium et merci de prendre le temps de nous visiter sous les Banyans pour nous apprendre la bonne nouvelle. C'est chic de votre part, vraiment. Un fana de Steely Dan.

...Any man left on the Rio Grande
is the King of the World as far as I know...

My best to Dan-sters everywhere.

...Any man left on the Rio Grande
is the King of the World as far as I know...

My best to Dan-sters everywhere.

enough salivating over the girls, please, you are getting the screen wet!

a woman's voice reminds me to serve and not to speak

comments back to Cynth and Carolyn from Miss Cave

12) show your midriff all you want, you can't touch my cleavage
11) your just jealous because Walter has me on that short leash
10) if I could get that worm off my trail, believe me, I would
9) another big tv spot and maybe I can back up Yanni
8) your brother Michael is cute, sure he's not gay?
7) so just how does a size 4 not look fat on Alley McBeal?
6) those boys fighting over me on the GB are merely boys
5) that drunk in the third row shouldn't have dropped his pants last night
4) I wish Don held me as closely as he grips that Lynx
3) I'm not standing out front with all those fondlers out there
2) it wasn't that shear a dress in the store, it's those spotlights, honest
1) anybody uses my sirname in a loose cavernous way is gonna get it

gimwebwt

Richard Benham

thanks so much for the info on the web broadcast

will this perhaps become available as a commercial commodity??

perhaps Steely Dan Enterprises and BMG could make the event available via DVD and VHS to this community

I personally will pay dearly for unedited "vicki cam"

thanks and best of luck in your ventures

Wormy Tom

Stock Answer # 358:

1. This ain't no Socialist country...YET

# 622:

2. You'd have to ask Mssrs. Fagen and Becker HOW

# 133:

3. No one consciously picks Slidell

top ten carolyn and cynthia realities

10) the state of redness cannot be simply dyed in
9) we will never get to sing that Gaslighting line
8) she was boffing leading men in those Cabaret outings in 96
7) we may all do aqua velvet but only Vicki fills it amply
6) I wanted my Plush Jazz Sessions romp on the couch too, Don!
5) how can I act sufficiently vulnerable when my raving mad protective brother Michael is in the horn section
4) we get to stand out front and still all the guys crane their necks to see passed us onstage to Vicki
3) Walter never sent me two dozen
2) the worm has only baited Ms Cave's hook, and what bait
1) It's bad enough having to thin down to fit on those Alley McBeal cameos only to find those Dan fans want a little more meat on the bones ala Victoria

gimybt

SD was nominated again for the R&R Hall of Fame last night... This year there are 16 nominees, I wonder if they will make it in this time...

Dear Friends,

My name is Richard Benhaim
I am co producing a Tv program on the first European Tv Operator on Internet
www.canalweb.net

I am very pleased to annonce you the first TV Program about Steely Dan on Tour

It will be Webcasted on Thursday 21th of September from 9PM to 11PM ( Paris Time)
and will featured

Exclusive Interview of Donald and Walter in the backstage of the Olympia
Exclusive footage of the show
Interviews of the all Band,featuring Ricky Lawson,John Herington,Victoria Cave,
Carolyn Leonhart,Cynthia Calhoun,Cornelius Bumpus,Tom BarneyMichael Leonhart
Bob Sheppard,Jim Pugh,Roger Nichols
Views of the backstage preparation

Thank you for annoncing this extraodinary event on you website
This program will be webcasted "Live" on Thursday 21th of September
at 9 PM (Paris Time) on the program called " Special Guest"

http://www.canalweb.net/vers/guest.html

Chatroom will be possible
Journalists - Steely Dan specialists will discuss about the group and band
Live session will close the program
Of course all the agreements have been taken with B.M.G records and Steely Dan Management
I already thank you for your cooperation to annonce this incredible event
on your site

Deeply thank you
Sincerly yours

Richard Benhaim

Top Ten Carolyn and Cynthia rationalizations:

10) She gets the old farts, we get KD.
9) Must be that see-through dress of hers, that's all.
8) Cabaret? Never heard of it, did you?
7) She didn't tour with Al Jarreau.
6) Yes and where was she in '96?
5) I like Gaslighting, the studio version with no scat line that is.
4) Getting a worm? Isn't that, like, bad?
3) We just have to dye our hair red and they'll all drop just the same, you know.
2) She doesn't have a web page. She doesn't have her own fan club. Poor girl, let her have that at least.
1) Clas was drunk.

timg

Corpsy V reporting, welcome to the ever so LO-Quent Lee major WT. Detect some European continental brainarities, they didn't like wash you in that treacherous Rivieranaise Parisinois Bathing Ointment, did they sir, major WT??
Update on our latest conquest and efforts here should be clear when you watch the Scrollarious Reports and use your Third Eye there, sir major WT.
Must inform you that the major Blaise and myself were intrigued by a hostile alienation potion and that we tried and tested it with the effect of mutual hostilities. The potion has now lost its devious fragrance and I assume we'll proceed our individual tasks as usual. No need to say the results of this Toxic Potion Investigation will be classified as highly confidential. And hidden in the dungeons.
I have strict orders to work on the Project Rumblestrip, but will have to take Private LP and her cadets to Greece where we will encounter the MARK-B Group for further instructions.
There will be a diner-dansant at the Cafe D'Escargot that will present their latest Mancini Danned Special ( an unknown number of courses diner), there's this parrot named Fender that is to boogie with a lark listening to Rhodes, dress code should be on the six o'clock news.

Corpsy V, reporting from an era to which she has travelled with the Time Machine, used by kind permission of the Bleep Inc. Ltd.

Clicking them heels!

good morning - appreciate the discussions below. i can only handle lower case this morning, i had a very difficult negotiation session last night that lasted four hours. who can think after two?

blaise, serious? what's up with that?

kd - don't even think of marriage until you are pushing 30, unless of course, you meet the right one......sorry, that's too confusing isn't it? i think it's one of those things in life where you'll just know; whereas you must trust your self and equal in importance is being honest with yourself.

my first foray with sd was do it again on am radio in 1972. i was in the second grade and hooked on radio - loved that song and tracked them ever since.

gravity makes me think of the gravity research institute in watertown mass in the late '80's - a very strange and wonderful house filled with brilliant people, white castle burgers at 3 AM, sitting in a dentist chair drinking a beer in the parlour on my way home from work, terrorizing people coming drunk from the tavern down the street with a remote car, the room with a dozen tv's stacked in three's, the phone which never got a bill - ah yes, it was wonderful.

my favorite place in england is a little tea shop called spurl's outside of reading. it's very tiny, just a few tables, with a beautiful walk-in fireplace framed in simple woodwork. most of the tables overlook this winding river that the town grew around, controlled slightly by a few locks. i found true peace there over tea and quiet conversation in 90-91. i also find the cotswold's quite settling but that's another story.

as is a bizarre business trip to wilkes-barre/marywood college

in the land of milk and honey you must put them on the table

Clas: thank you sir, anything else you want to tell me (please!), I can use it: dwyer@nbatalk.com

For now, thanks.

wormy - yeah, she did. But it's close to A Night On The Town, the Big Ease.

San Francisco Knight - you were 13, but did you LIKE it?

I have never been to England. Seen a lot of John Cleese (Fawlty Towers) wich is one of my absolute fave when it comes to characters. And I have done reading a lot of Jeeves, help me out here, Woodhouse! Yes.

So I know a great deal about your rainy country.

Not an expert but close.

c

StevieDan - thanks for the welcome home
a Victorian suitors match - humm

SoOutrageous - welcome back, so who was the gorgeous babe in the smokey french bar worthy of missing the dan over?

SFK - I am more than content to share
Don't worry one of us will cave sooner or later

Clas - poor Cookie picked a terrible spot on the map - Slidell of all places

St Al thanks for the comments on the Paris show, can't wait for Craig's and others insight on this as well

I sense a morning of Blaise

wormtom

she keeps me safe and warm, it's just the calm before the storm