Sign In Stranger Archives -- September 2003


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 30

Message: Aja: check out the Rolling Stones riff on Randy Newman's I'm Dead (But I Don't Know It) from Bad Love (1999)


Lyrics (It's a Lizzie thing - they work even better with the music):

I have nothing left to say
But I'm going to say it anyway
Thirty years upon a stage
And now I hear the people say
Why won't he go away?

I pass the houses of the dead
They're calling me to join their group
But I stagger on instead
Dear God, Sweet God
Protect me from the truth

CHORUS

I'm dead but I don't know it
(He's dead He's dead)
I'm dead but I don't know
(He's dead He's dead)
I'm dead but I don't know it
(He's dead He's dead)
Please don't tell me so
Let me, let me go

I have a family to support
But surely, that is no excuse
I've nothing further to report
Time you spend with me
Is time you lose

BRIDGE

I always thought that I would know
When it was time to quit
That when I lost a step or two or three or four or five
I'd notice it
Now that I've arrived here safely
I find my talent is gone
Why do I go on and on and on and on and on
And on and on and on and on and on


(He's dead He's dead He's dead)
I don't know it
(He's dead He's dead He's dead)
I didn't know
(He's dead He's dead He's dead)
I didn't know it
(He's dead He's dead He's dead)
How would be so cruel to tell me so?
(You're dead!)


When will I end this bitter game?
When will I end this cruel charade?
Everything I write all sounds the same
Each record that I'm making
Sounds like a record that I made
Just not as good!


I'm dead but I don't know it
(He's dead He's dead)
I'm dead but I didn't know
(He's dead He's dead)
I'm dead but I don't know it
(He's dead He's dead)
Please don't tell me so
Please don't tell me so
(YOUR"RE DEAD!!!)


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 30

Message: Aja: check out the Rolling Stones riff on Randy Newman's I'm Dead (But I Don't Know It) from Bad Love (1999)


Lyrics (It's a Lizzie thing - they work even better with the music):

I have nothing left to say
But I'm going to say it anyway
Thrity years upon a stage
And now I hear the people say
Why won't he go away?

I pass the houses of the dead
They're calling me to join their group
But I stagger on instead
Dear God, Sweet God
Protect me from the truth

CHORUS

I'm dead but I don't know it
(He's dead He's dead)
I'm dead but I don't know
(He's dead He's dead)
I'm dead but I don't know it
(He's dead He's dead)
Please don't tell me so
Let me, let me go

I have a family to support
But surely, that is no excuse
I've nothing further to report
Time you spend with me
Is time you lose

BRIDGE

I always thought that I would know
When it was time to quit
That when I lost a step or two or three or four or five
I'd notice it
Now that I've arrive here safely
I find my talent is gone
Why do I go on and on and on and on and on
And on and on and on and on and on


(He's dead He's dead He's dead)
I don't know it
(He's dead He's dead He's dead)
I didn't know
(He's dead He's dead He's dead)
I didn't know it
(He's dead He's dead He's dead)
How would be so cruel to tell me so?
(You're dead!)


When will I end this bitter game?
When will i end this cruel charade?
Everything I write all sounds the same
Each record that I'm making
Sounds like a record that I made
Just not as good!


I'm dead but I don't know it
(He's dead He's dead)
I'm dead but I didn't know
(He's dead He's dead)
I'm dead but I don't know it
(He's dead He's dead)
Please don't tell me so
Please don't tell me so
(YOUR"RE DEAD!!!)


User: steviedan | Month: 8 | Day: 30

Message: angel, fortunately you're right. tonight's episode was a home run. i guess it was all wim wender's fault. tonight i was feeling it. it was great to see roscoe gordon getting some well-deserved recognition...


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 30

Message: Loved that article. Mick, Keith and Ronnie are characatures of themselves. I don't think they can help it at this point, though. Can you imagine Don & Walt doin shuffle? Hilarious, I wanna see a dance version of The Fez.


User: Aja | Month: 8 | Day: 30

Message: Funny interview with Don and Walt in the San Diego Union last Friday. They were seriously basing on The Rolling Stones, saying they looked preposterous. I couldn't have been laughing any harder, or cheering any louder that someone finally said it!

www.signonsandiego.com and follow the links.


Aja


User: angel | Month: 8 | Day: 30

Message: Steviedan: Regarding your comment on The Blues being "hit or miss". The Blues is a look at a style of music through the lens of several different directors (including Martin Scorsese and Clint Eastwood). This makes it different from something like Ken Burns Jazz, which was looking at a type of music, through one person's eyes. Clint's episode (airing Saturday) is on Piano Blues and that one I definitely want to catch.

As I was walking down Sunset Blvd yesterday, I was wondering if the two were in town yet. I haven't had this feeling since the Grammy's in 2001. Definitely getting excited.

St. Al: After that concert, there must have been some wild and crazy border crossing activity going on at Blaine..... :-)


User: fife | Month: 8 | Day: 30

Message: Hi St.Al
Blue Rodeo is very popular here, as is, The Tragically Hip, Barenaked Ladies, Colin James, Jeff Healey, Bruce Cockburn, Sarah Maclauglin, the list goes on. You can check out Blue Rodeo's web site, www.bluerodeo.com and find out about Jim Cuddy, lead singer. They play here in Ottawa often to great crowds or rather as great as you can get in a government city.
fife


User: steviedan | Month: 8 | Day: 29

Message: yes jimbo, obviously i've been trying.


User: steviedan | Month: 8 | Day: 29

Message: is anyone watching the blues series on pbs ?

alot of the footage is quite good.

lou reed singing the blues ?

now that just plain fucking SUCKED ! an ABOMINATION !

no one is whiter than lou reed ! NOW CONFIRMED !

but it sure did give me the blues, i will admit...

fortunately they did have lots of j.b. lenoir, who should have never been sharing the same screen with lou reed and nick cave.

honestly, i don't know if i can recommend the series or not.

hit and miss.


User: Jimbo | Month: 8 | Day: 29

Message: Has anyone been watching Martin Scorcese Presents The Blues on PBS lately?

It's on this week thru Saturday at 9pm E.S.T.


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 29

Message: Open missive to Don & Walt:

I know you guys must be getting a bit tired considering your advanced years, not a dig, just a fact. Three shows over the weekend must have taken a toll. We've heard rumors of people being a bit under the weather. But now you've got two days off and no one is playing Universal tonight or tomorrow so you guys can have a decent rehearsal Tuesday and/or Wednesday afternoon. We also appreciate what playing the old stomping grounds means: the old friends in attendance, the glitz, the pressure, assholes from the record labels, avoiding the women you cavorted with all those years ago, the midnight suppers on the westside at Mr. Chow's, oh no, sorry, you don't do that anymore. It's a pressure packed set of gigs, we realize full well.

But boys, it's time to stop cogitating your receding hairlines and think of us, the loyal Fandom, keeping you in the black and on course for that retirement in the Azores. We have to have the Gina AND the EMG. We heard the Mall in July and while we think it's a snazzy little number, we hear it a lot at the supermarket, but we are ravenous for diversity. Thanks for listening.


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 29

Message: Sainted One - you've got a point there, but on the other hand, you never know what you're gonna get. With the Missus, you know exactly.


User: StAl | Month: 8 | Day: 29

Message: Saw a fun Canadian band play on Saturday night. Anyone out there familiar with Blue Rodeo? My wife is a big fan. I've seen them 3 or 4 times but I must say the Saturday show rocked hard. My ears were ringing for hours.

Ringing is a good thing, right?

The show was in Bellingham Washington so needless to say we were the only Washingtonians at the show. Bellingham for those who don't know is only 30 minutes from Vancouver. The full house was packed with crazy Canadians.

Sure was nice to hear some live music after all the misses this Summer. Live music is almost as good as sex. In one respect it's better because you can sample all the different bands without getting in trouble...

StAl


User: christine | Month: 8 | Day: 29

Message: i have also seen that article in Rolling Stone that Jimbo speaks of. And yes the fans did sing along with hey nineteen in New York, but there is a sad story about the Mohegan Sun show in Connecticut and that song. I'm very bitter about what happened. Don was singing then he stopped and pointed to the audience who was singing along the whole time already, but when he pointed everyone stopped singing and Don and Walt looked disappointed and never seemed to get too much into the show after that point, so basically the crummy audience killed the show themselves. May i just point out that I DID sing along like a true fan! I still can't deny that the show was awesome just because it was Steely Dan and they can't help being Great.


User: Dr. Fill | Month: 8 | Day: 29

Message: Advise from Dr. Fill:

http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill

Or click the URL above.

/C


User: Spike's Moll | Month: 8 | Day: 29

Message: Blonde & The Coke Machine


It was a really hot day and this blonde decided she would go buy a coke. She went to the coke machine and when she put her money in, a coke came out - so she kept putting money in.
And since it was such a hot day, a line had formed behind her. Finally, a guy on line said, "Will you hurry up? We're all hot and thirsty!"

And the blonde said, "No way. I'm still winning!"


User: Snooooooort.... | Month: 8 | Day: 29

Message: ...ahhh... right on the highway.

Been listening way too much on "Running on Empty" this weekend.

And now I could use a cig.

Does anybody get a Lucky Strike?

---

Christine - *sigh*

Schwinn - thanx for email, I am patiently waiting.

Gaucho - great shit! And thanx for the Aja T-shirt!

Howard - I guess it's not easy, tuning a piano. OK, now you've got that done, please send me the song for the Under the Banyan Trees CD?

Molly Dear - more like, a picture of the Nasty Redhead?

Miz Ducky - are you going to send me something for the CD?


User: duncan | Month: 8 | Day: 29

Message: Angel
Will that ASCAP site tell me who wrote a song & how may times it's been covered & by whom.

it's quite famous i think
''have love will travel''


User: Chris in the mist | Month: 8 | Day: 29

Message: Dan chords! I'm trying to work out those for "What A Shame About Me". Anybody can help me with the chorus ("I'm still working ...")?


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 28

Message: LA Danfolk! It's Camacho's at 6 PM Wednesday at Universal City Walk. Leave that stank attitude at home with the kids and be prepared to party. We're going to practice yelling for Pixeleen.

We'll decide where to be for Thursday when we meet. LOL my brothers and sisters, let's bring this puppy home where it belongs.


User: Gina | Month: 8 | Day: 28

Message: hey Steviedan :-) LOL
love this.


User: steviedan | Month: 8 | Day: 28

Message: !!! JAY & SILENT CARL STRIKE BACK !!!

had to return while i am listening to "forward into the past: becker & fagen early years" on boomerang records out of the uk.

"TECHNICAL NOTE: these early recordings were experimental and specifically created as songwriter demonstrations. the sound quality of these tracks is primitive and in no way reflects the immaculate aural creations that have become the becker and fagen trademark. this is merely a historical document, and an insightful journey into the creative terrain of becker and fagen. digital remastering has been employed to 'clean-up' these tracks without sacrificing their quality"

that's a frickin' mouthful to say we cashed in and flew by night like bloodsucking bats... only ten tracks, but sound IS good. i'm glad they fleshed out that "caves" arrangement.

you've heard it all before, but HEY ! it has a different blue cover with slime-green colored lettering and that's enough for me.


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: angel: seems low - for Dr Backer I count 13 (11 ToW - Japanese) + 10 (CBAT) + 9 (CTE) + 10 (PL) + + 10 (KL) + 9 (RS) + 7 (Aja) + 9 (Gaucho) + 9 (TvN) + 9 (EMG) = 95

...AND then

+ Horses (RLJ) + Rapunzel (Woody & Chick album) + I Mean to Shine + You Gotta Walk it... (5?) +song for a movie that escapes me + pre-Dan Mock Turtle Days (~19) + not to mention the Gaucho outtakes + Katy outtakes + The Steely Dan show + more out there...

>120

some are BMI?


User: Dolores Del Ruby | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: Bluz,

Of gator of ~ to never smile posterior to a crocidile. Be not taken
inside by him is the welcome grimace! Just never to smile to a
crocodile!

Delores


User: Essence of Incense | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: 

Arlean you are so crazy you make me look sane. I really mean it please leave me alone!


User: steviedan finds his mojo... | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: not THAT mojo ! it NEVER gets misplaced !

talkin' bout the new mojo mag that wormy presented from the topsoil awhile back. talkin' bout "the erudite jazz-pop funsters on kate moss, touring hell, and dental floss". 10 questions for steely dan. a bonus free roots of hip hop cd. BE THERE !

"universal music alert": you can't beat a saturday night spent grooving to two FULL discs of jimmy reed with your twelve year old daughter. some mojo can't be generationally supressed. jimmy reed is a good detector.

mu, that's RIGHT ! i conveniently forgot about "my ride's here", and i meant to get that. thanx for reminding. i also want to dig into a few of those 70s/80s things represented on the rhino anthology. prudent vote on kenny garrett. impeccable. miles always knew and tweetsie never changes. two proven cosmic principles...


User: angel | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: Tones: According to the ASCAP search I just did, there are 106 songs attributed to Donald Jay Fagen and 85 attributed to Walter Carl Becker. So, I do believe those are the official names for the dynamic duo known as Steely Dan. I remembered that I had done a search for them earlier this year. (I believe Boston Rag gave us the link to that ASCAP data base).


User: Fan '59 (wse) | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: zen zen and again tools life bunt to first slidding home here and thair

on the foot lookin past and true


User: The man from Mars | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: Not far at all...

"Don't move to slow, 'cause the man from Mars
Is through with cars, he's eatin' bars
Yeah, wall to wall, door to door, hall to hall
He's gonna eat 'em all
Rapture, be pure
Take a tour, through the sewer
Don't strain your brain, paint a train
You'll be singin' in the rain
I said don't stop, do punk rock!"


User: DACW - END OF DAYS? | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: The CUBS have won the Division crown today!!!! and Geoge W. Bush is more popular in Iraq than the US...


Can the Rapture be far away?


User: Laura's Ghost | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: Mama let me start all over again,
Cradle me, Mama cradle me again.
I never thought that I'd be going down the stoney end.


User: Highwire | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: We sell 'em missiles, We sell 'em tanks
We give 'em credit, You can call the bank

It's just a business, You can pay us in crude
You love these toys, just go play out your feuds

Got no pride, don't know whose boots to lick
We act so greedy, makes me sick sick sick

So get up, stand up, out of my way
I want to talk to the boss right away
Get up, stand up, whose gonna pay
I want to talk to the man right away

We walk the highwire
Sending the men up to the front line
Hoping they don't catch the hell fire
With hot guns and cold, cold nights

We walk the highwire
Sending the men up to the front line
And tell 'em to hotbed the sunshine
With hot guns and cold, cold nights

Our lives are threatened, our jobs at risk
Sometimes dictators need a slap on the wrist

Another Munich we just can't afford
We're gonna send in the eighty-second airborne

Get up, stand up, who's gonna pay
I wanna talk to the boss right away
Get up, stand up, outta my way
I wanna talk to the man right away

We walk the highwire
Putting the world out on a deadline
And hoping they don't catch the shellfire
With hot guns and cold, cold nights

We walk the highwire
Putting the world out on a deadline
Catching the bite on primetime
With hot guns and cold, cold nights

Get up! Stand up!
Dealer! Stealer!
Hey!

We walk the highwire
We send all our men into the front lines
We're hoping that we backed the right side
With hot guns and cold, cold nights

We walk the highwire
We send all the men up to the front lines
And hoping they don't catch the hellfire
With hot guns and cold cold, cold, cold,
cold nights

We walk the highwire
We walk the highwire
With hot guns and cold, cold, cold nights

With hot guns and cold, cold nights


Jagger/Richards 1991


User: Shegot! | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: Aja, I think ygk has completely evaporated, disappeared, just plain vanished, and last seen wobbling down West 50th mumbling to himself, "Mingus, Mingus, Mingus". He's just gone - broke, dejected and thorougly rejected, his 'friends' don't call, and he's just plain off the wall. A sad short life of someone noone knew.


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: Your honor I object: Last Laugh would only be a legitimate candidate in Texas, where we would have executed him by now, especially as he appears a bit mentally challenged!!!!...no, some Kentucky whack job from Springer will marry him by text message...a few conjugal visits and we have a future McDonald's fry cook!!


User: Jimbo | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: I just got the new issue of Rolling Stone with the cover of Mr. Johnny Cash. On page 40, There is a picture of Donald and Walter and a commentary on the New York shows they did there. There was no mention of where the concert took place, but I understand that the audience in on show sang Hey Nineteen. Cool!


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: Stevee-baby: Whatz up with The Last Mall? Playing it is one thing, forgetting you played it in front of a lot of the same people is....well, senile.


User: Shegot! | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: And now............the latest Darwin Awards:

The Darwin Awards honor those who improve our gene pool... by removing
themselves from it. These men and women gave their "all" in an effort
to improve the human species. Of necessity, the honor is
generally bestowed posthumously.

Shooting Blanks
2003 Darwin Award Nominee

(11 March 2003, Spain) Early one morning, police received a call
warning that three robbers had invaded the bar of a Madrid brothel. The
police dispatched several units, and confirmed that the call was true.
Officers surrounded the building, and used a bullhorn to coax the
offenders from the premises.

The robbers, understandably frightened, found themselves in an
untenable situation inside a building surr! ounded by dozens of
policemen. Their subsequent actions may have been influenced by the
ready availability of alcohol. Instead of surrendering, they decided to
go out in a blaze of glory, and tried to escape while shooting at
everything in sight.

The policemen ducked, covered, and proceeded to shoot back at the
running robbers. Two were fatally injured, and the third was wounded in
his right leg.

Why was the gunfight over so quickly? The three robbers were carrying
REAL guns loaded with FAKE ammunition. They were firing blanks, making
enough sound and light to fool the police into shooting back, but not
enough to actually help them escape.

Cock Fight
2003 Darwin Award Nominee

(12 January 2003, Philippines) Cockfighting is a popular gambling sport
in the Philippines. Roosters are aggressive creatures that fight one
another in the wild to establish a "pecking order." When their natural
arsenals of claws and! beaks are supplemented with sharp steel spurs,
these feathered animals are transformed into deadly weapons. A trained
rooster is an extremely vicious creature.

Usually the fury of an enraged rooster is directed against another
rooster in an arena surrounded by avid spectators. But at a recent
match in Zamboanga, a cock owner was the target of his own bird. He had
just strapped razor-sharp gaffs onto its legs when he lost control of
the animal. The bird turned on him, and in "one rapid shuffle," its
gaffs sliced through major arteries in his thigh and groin.

Despite routinely handling razor-wielding roosters, the man was not
wearing protective clothing. He bled to death en route to the hospital.

The Last Laugh
2003 Honorable Mention

(January 2003, Virginia) Paul Powell is not yet out of the gene pool
but he will be soon, thanks to his own efforts to enable prosecutors to
prove a capital murder charge against him.! He had been tried and
convicted of the murder of a 16-year-old girl, but his conviction was
overturned by the State Appellate Court based on a lack of evidence
that he had robbed or raped the woman.

However, due process was not yet done with Powell.

Thinking himself immune to further consequences, Powell wrote a
gloating confession and sent it to the prosecutor's office. "Since the
Virginia Supreme Court said that I can't be charged with capital murder
again, I figured I would tell you the rest of what happened on January
29, 1999, to show you how stupid y'all are." He went on to explain in
graphic detail exactly what had happened on the night he murdered the
girl.

But Powell did not have the last laugh.

He overlooked a catch. The Court had only ruled that there was not
enough evidence for the capital murder conviction, leaving open the
possibility of a retrial for lesser charges, or for capital murder
shoul! d new information surface. The second time around, Powell's
boastful letter gave the prosecutors precisely the evidence they needed.

Powell's lawyer "portrayed his client as a bright young man." Bright as
a burned-out light bulb! Powell was convicted of capital murder on
January 15, 2003.

Where's the Chute?
Historic Darwin Award Nominee

(North Carolina, 1987) Ivan, an experienced parachutist with 800 jumps
under his belt, was videotaping a private lesson given by an instructor
for a single trainee. He had attached the video camera to his helmet
so that it would capture the entire day of instruction, and the
supporting power supply and recorder were in a heavy satchel slung on
his back.

The group went up in the plane, and the instructor led the enthusiastic
beginner through preparations for the jump. Ivan carefully documented
the lesson, which needed to be perfect for the sake of posterity,

When they reach! ed the jump site, Ivan jumped from the back of the plane
and filmed the student and instructor jumping from the front of the
plane. A few heartbeats later, tape still running, Ivan realized that
he had been so focused on filming the jump that he had forgotten to
strap on his own parachute. An FAA spokesperson said that the video
equipment strapped to his back may have been mistaken for a parachute.

In the footage salvaged from the camera and spliced together, the
student and instructor are shown in freefall befire they pull their
ripcords and recede rapidly from view. Then the cameraman's
hands reach for his own ripcord. When Ivan realizes he has no ripcord,
ergo no chute, his hands are seen to flail about wildly, then the
camera pans down towards the approaching earth...

Film from the final stage of the plunge was destroyed on impact.


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: t: No, That's Dee Jay Jazzy Fagen

and Walter Carl Marx Becker


User: is this for real? | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: Among the credits for the film Laurel Canyon:

"Do It Again" written by

Donald Jay Fagen

and

Walter Carl Becker

Jay?

Carl?


User: the flower & i | Month: 8 | Day: 27

Message: we went back this evening...
Outstanding!! San Diego

bluz


User: SD in SD seeing SD (SteveeDan in San Diego seeing Steely Dan) | Month: 8 | Day: 26

Message: Well, ... I just got back from the San Diego Steely Dan show at the Coors Amphitheater ... I'm here on the hotel computer because sleep is simply out of the question.

It was a great show. I got a chance to see Bob Tedde, Peg T., and Miz Ducky, Pete Fogel, Sharri Fogel and her Mom, Ed Beatty, SouthOfHollywood (thanks for the ride, Brother), and the lead singer of the Yes tribute band "Roundabout".

The band sounded tight as a drum. They played their typical 2 set concert with a few change-ups ... Slang Of Ages was swapped out for Daddy Don't Live In That New York City No More (and the band introductions were placed in this song just like they were on the 2000 tour), and they played The Last Mall instead of (what we thought was going to be) Lunch With Gina.

Donald said that it was the first time that they had played The Last Mall on tour, but a few of us yelled up to the band that they also played in at their kick-off gig in Costa Mesa on July 23rd. But alas, we were not heard.

No problem. The band sounded great. The on-stage graphics/light show was great. The sound was pretty darn good too.

I had a run-in with one of the event rent-a-bouncers, but I exasperated him, and he went away empty-handed ... I cannot expound further on what exactly I am talking about. Let's just call it a "momento".

It was a great night. But of course, any night spent with a live bona fide Steely Dan band would be a great night.

Write this one into the record books folks. This one's history and so am I ... for a day and a half ...

Santa Barbara County Bowl on Sunday night ... here I come.


SteveeDan


User: Paige | Month: 8 | Day: 26

Message: This Sunday I will be attending my first Steely Dan concert at the County Bowl here in Santa Barbara. Tomorrow night, I will be seeing Ian Anderson. Throughout the years, if I wasn't listening to Tull, I was listening to Steely Dan. Sometimes in the midst of all the slings and arrows, the planets align and life is good.

-Paige


User: Paolo | Month: 8 | Day: 26

Message: Anyone have the correct chords and lyrics to "Yellow Peril?"

:~)


~~~
Chinese Food - Comics - Tiki Swingin' - Dinosaurs!
www.pablobrazil.com


User: Paolo | Month: 8 | Day: 26

Message: Robert Palmer:

I remember driving with my Cajun-girlfriend-of-1994 to visit some of my relatives in Texas one summer break, listening to Robert Palmer's Pressure Drop. A sobering reminder that our time on this planet is precious and short.

R.I.P. Mr. Palmer.


User: Paolo | Month: 8 | Day: 26

Message: test


User: glute of earl | Month: 8 | Day: 26

Message: dallas.

sublime.

d'mu, great coverage. doesn't Cornelius just look like a sax? and
YES!!! Keith Carlock (sp?) ... WOW. The man makes his drums sing. fluid, graceful ... cirque d'ervish.



Grand Master Walter and Donald ( that voice - man, he hits those highs) must be the most gracious and grin inspiring of all artists. tweaky as all get out, too. cads, those two.

Great band.

what was that moment tho ... twice ... same song ..like some loop got dropped? anybody?

the lights, the graphics, the MUSIC, the angel girls.
new favorite instrument ... trombone.

Naked Lunch Saturday night was super swell, too.
sorry we missed ya, StAl

So Fine,



User: Is true | Month: 8 | Day: 26

Message: Double Felix: What worked? The lawn at the Dallas show was empty. May be 100 people out there. Just a shit crowd!


User: AKDJ | Month: 8 | Day: 26

Message: A not so seamless Segway.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030926/ap_on_re_us/segway_recall


User: Jimbo | Month: 8 | Day: 26

Message: Robert Palmer R.I.P.

George Plimpton R.I.P.

Too many great talents gone.

Has anyone rented a DVD or video for The Kid Stays in the Picture? Just in case you haven't, it's a documentary of legendary film producer Robert Evans and how he achieved success in The Godfather, Love Story, as well as his personal life only to be brought down by divorce, drugs, studio politics, and a movie called The Cotton Club. Evans, of course rebounds
and is still making movies.

I wouldn't be telling you this had it not been the fact that while watching this movie, they were playing "Dirty Work" and "Do It Again" in the background during his 70's segments. Guess the filmmakers are big Dan fans themselves. Other than that, it's a damn good film. Check it out.

Robert Palmer R.I.P.

George Plimpton R.I.P.


User: Satan | Month: 8 | Day: 26

Message: Bob - don't listen to Him. There's a spot down here for you. I'll leave the light on.

Rajah


User: God | Month: 8 | Day: 26

Message: lovebob: You need to return dilaudid you took from St. Christophers medicine cabinet. If you keep this up you'll have to sell your soul to the *other* guy because I simply wont stand for it any longer.

Robert Palmer is with us now.

StAl


User: duncan | Month: 8 | Day: 26

Message: Robert Palmer's gone
I'm stunned


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 26

Message: Stevie: Check out the one in between Life'll Kill Ya and The Wind. It's called My Ride's Here as in a Hearse...the Hockey Song alone is worth the price of admission...Kenny Garrett - he's a good one...I loved the Tweetsie Railroad as a kid!!

Double: hey...So that was you tripping over me...oh, yeah those graphics were...uuuhhhh classic, LOL...I figured that's what the concert experience in Dallas was like ...after seven or eight beers!!


User: one more stevie hit | Month: 8 | Day: 26

Message: oh and wjaz, don't leave out tweetsie railroad as a possible venue. up on the hill on the cloggin' stage...

rajah, regarding your near dismissal of the soprano sax there raj, clearly you are not listening to the right players. a few like errrr... say... john COLTRANE, wayne SHORTER, kenny GARRETT (the real G), steve LACY, sidney BECHET... i can stop right there, i think...


User: steviedanilow | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: i made it thruuuu the rainnnnn...

and thanx for shinin' the scam-cam on me, roy...

but just after that, a week bout with pnuemonia ripped me from the mast. and following the warren zevon story (btw, "the wind" is the "steviedan-album-of-the-week(TM)"), i was feeling this illness a little differently and was enjoying every sandwich just a bit more. you know, i always under-rated warren zevon. until i got the rhino anthology and the album "life'll kill ya". yeah, that was his last album before this one. such sad irony, even he could not have scripted it better...

i'm trying to catch up a bit, but y'all some verbose muthas.

i trust that st al is better...

"colour of the week award" goes to mu...

nice to see gina back...

seriously though, heartfelt sympathies and concerns directed at nyb and jdubz...


User: duncan | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: lovebob

WAKEUP your dreaming


User: Double Felix | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: Reporting from the Dallas show--it started way late because they were trying to get as many walk-ins as possible and it worked because the place was packed. The opening number, Aja, was lame as it mis-fired with both vocals and guitars. In fact, Donald's vocals were weak the entire first set and Walter was noodling as bad as he did on TAN for just about as long. They could have used Jeff Skunk Baxter who was in Austin at the time backing up some other group at the ACL music festival. Finally, Herrington was allowed to rock in the 2nd set and everything got better.

The graphics were extra cool and it was clear the art director was a Dan Fan--or just getting enough money to love himself in a whole new way. I myself bought an official Steely Dan visor for $5.00. They weren't for sale but nobody wanted to give their social security number and apply for a GM credit card and get one for free so I took advantage of the situation and paid an undervalued college student for the priviledge. Steely Dan and GM together in the same space reminds me of that time I got a blow-job from Stevie Nicks just to piss Lindsey Buckingham off...


Go See the Show,

DF


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: I'd really liked it. Add Kulee Baba, Wetside Story & This All Too Mobile Home. But you'll notice we still haven't gotten rid of FM just thought I'd mention.


User:  | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: Was that fear and loathing in Phoenix?

Pass the ether...


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: yes!!!!!! I made a typo on "grammar" or is that Kelsey Grammar?

obviously subliminiminimable delayed rebellion against my Dad who taught English for 30 years and received his doctorate from U of C...


...back to my dry technical writing...

Crap, did anyone see the CalEEfornEYa debate last night?? I was ROFLMAO...as Ahhnaud and Arianna traded sniper fire in what sounded like a merging of The Dirty Dozen and Green Acres...

...I'll be baaahk to pump you up Arianna unlike your Q-eye husband in Governator IV...

...I have to tell you nice folks on the left coast, but I was stunned that McClintock made clear logical point after logical point backed by facts and with ease...take my advice - elect him to clean up the mess for 4 years, then elect that Green Party whacko just for fun...


User: Miz Ducky | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: Rajah: no, he's just an ordinary guy, and they've finally gotten to him.

Sorry, that was too easy, wasn't it?

Heh. My boss-man, he one heck of a guy.

One more day, though, and I might be sounding like that myself.

Those of you I'll see at Coors, well, see ya then!

/the duck
(still in sandy eggo)


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: lovebob: Wait, that's my dream 2nd set!!! - just needs Dr. Wu and Pixeleen and Your Gold Teeth II...they must have gotten a little antsy after Dallas


Throw Back the Little Ones - Watch out for Greenbook at Universal??!


RS: ...well, there is this song called Florida Room...I dunno if it's a funny one...glad you made it through - i would have been in the nearest electrified motel...25 million without power. That high pressure in main put the squeeze on the isobars

We had a flood...in the house in 1994...20 inches of rain in less that 36 hours...no cyclone, just got "trained: ...will never forget kicking down the fence to let the water out of the back as water got into the slab and in the house...added gutters (that's key!)...tiled the bathrooms...and finally this year tiled the kitchen and entrance (and have the knees to show it) and carpeted the remainder of the house (I had 300 lb men do this...I hopw it takes you orders of magnitude less time to set things square...

Hey did anyone catch the joke re: the "amenities" that Cindy Mizelle, Carolyn Leonhart, and Cynthia Calhoun were reading? The Chicago Manual of Style...the Bible of English Language style and grammer in all things written technical and otherwise put out by the Modern Language Association (MLA) published at the University of Chicago...ABSOLUTELY RIVETING!!;-) sounds like Fagen's joke, since he was an English major...

...Damn, that thing could kill a good sized badger...I wonder if how many times the Syndicate used the Style Manual as a blunt instrument?!

THAT'S CHICAGO!!


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: Bob - Are you crazy, are you high?


User: lovebob | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: Goood mooooooorning Steeelly Daaaaaahn,

I was 30 hours into Phoenix on a 1 day drive...

Actually, I'm still in Phoenix and i think I'm in trouble...

The second half of last nightĘs show was so random, and as far as i know, way unlike any second half so far this tour.


Hey 19- Darkness shattered by "snare.../TWANG" and slide projections of a very young Marylyn Monroe. half the audience was still in the lobby.

Everthing Must Go- Had heard about this from Peg. Not bad for the second time out. I missed Walter's quip... something about N-Ron Hubbard?

Here's where it gets weird... A heckler is yelling "Play The Rag... Baaaah Stuuuhn Raaaag" and "Hey Alpha-Don, Standard operating proceedure babey" At this point Fagen sits up straight pulls his shades down to the tip of his nose with his left hand and sheild his eyes from the stage lighting with his right. Becker leans in with a smiley smile pointing and shaking his head. Fagen stands up and addresses the band off the mike. When he returns to his seat behind the Rhodes he says "Here's one for one of our favorite ex- girlfriends. It's The Boston Rag and it's nothing like the 2vN Tour. HAD to be unrehearsed. Becker wails on the solo. All band members are grinning like little kids and watching for hand signals from Donald. Becker's solo is to dye for. It ends abruptly and the band goes right into

Jack of Speed- Is this the first time this tour? It was definitely rehearsed and I was actually excited at the prospect that Walter might sing it again. Fagen wasnĘt a let down however, and the horns just rolled right over me and right intoą

Roll Back The Little Ones!?!?- Where the hell did THIS one come from? Having NEVER imagined this as a contender for a coveted slot in the touring set list I never wouldĘve suspected in a million years it would sound this good, or get this kind of reaction. One of 2 standing ovations of the evening (the obvious other being My Old School)

FM- I liked this better this time around. Sounded like Donald sang ōFeed for some funky reggae/ wet bag of mice?ö Whatever that means.

ReelinĘ In The Years- IĘm finally warming up to this version. Am I getting older, wiser, or both?

Do It Again- only one verseą Becker begins introducing the band. Fagen waves him off during the intro of the girls, and the guy who was yelling from the audience appears on stage with three plastic glasses and a champagne bottle. Becker says ōnow?ö and Donald says ōabsolutely nowö. A toast ensues off the micĘs and when itĘs ever, DF heads for the acoustic piano, and Walter grabs the bass from Barney. Barney looks puzzled and Becker says something like- ōJesus, this thing got enough strings on it?ö

Donald almost shouting, almost shouts ōThis is ęold schoolĘ before there was anęold schoolĘ

ōItĘs Pre Schoolö adds Becker and the stage and audience erupts into laughter. What happens next is inconceivable, ą a piano, bass, and drum version of "Dog Eat Dog!!!!"

IĘm stunned. The audience in general all have blank expressions on there faces. Blank that is until the choruses where their looks of utter confusion turn to those of gleefull recognition and thousands of Phoenixians begin singing along as if this were the moment theyĘd been waiting for all night. As if this werenĘt Twilight Zone Enough they punctuate the end of each chorus with a hand/mouth motion that looks like a mime eating a Slim Jimą

Damn I gotta goą more later

lovebob


User: Roy.Scam | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: If you're not listening to JAZZ 88 (88.3 in San Diego), you should be. It's called The Jazz in Steely Dan. Jim Pugh is being interviewed right now. Available on the internet on http://KSDS-FM.org thru 9 PM Pac time.


User: Aja | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: YGK-how was your show? So sorry I missed it!


Aja


User: G. Harrison | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: 

Puma is getting out there and Dave in there! Things change at the drop of a dime?

Anyone else going to see the Doobies in Las Vegas besides me?

Singing doo doo doo to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


G. Harrison


User: YGK | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: Stevie: got it - on it's way - probably early next week.....
Whore: thanx again - likewise to you.....

Anyone who wants to jump on Core NYC's "Tryin' to Sort It All Out", email me.....
Also, there are limited 2nd Edition WUNDerground Radio's available....

ygk


User: Randy | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: 
Howard - In response to your post (#4969), the emphasis I'm hearing is on the three and the six (one, two, THREE, four, five, SIX) for "Two Against Nature"; I see your point, but as it's clearly not a waltz (3/4), I take it as a 6/8 - count it while the song is playing (the easiest point would be from the top before the vocal comes in) and you'll see what I mean; 6/8 time definitely gives it a different feel from a waltz-

Randy
NIGHTFLY62(at)aol.com


User: angel | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: Royscam/Jim #: Glad you are both OK. Why was my first thought about Mary Passage? Either of you know it's status?

Thinking of driving up to San Francsico for the final show in the lower 48. Will see how next week plays out. Sheesh, couldn't I feel like driving to Santa Barbara or San Diego? No, I have to pick San Francisco. St. Al, thanks so much (not) for putting this thought in my head. Can't get that Golden Gate Bridge out of my mind....

Howard: I am not surprised at all that the strings would tune that way. You shook everything up and it takes a bit for them to come to order again. Glad that for all the work you did tuning it, that it is bring some joy to you.

Lovebob: Sure, leave us in the middle.... :-)


User: Howard | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: 
It's been a while... too much to do recently!

NYB - I'd echo Randy's comments about the songbooks. They're useful as starting points, but the Piano/Vocal/Guitar format ones in particular are usually not that accurate. Piano parts are horribly simplified (so the melody is always in the right hand), and the guitar chords are usually some way off. BUT - I believe that there will be a songbook for EMG - don't know when it will appear though. (Just as I don't know exactly when I'll add some EMG guitar tabs to my site - soon, I promise!)

Randy - shouldn't the time sig. for "Two Agaisnt Nature" be one that has three strong beats per bar, not two? I hear three main beats (*two* against *na*-ture *don't* you...), so I'd opt for 3/4 rather than 6/8.

Clas - piano is now at concert pitch (give or take a few cents). Took a while to bring it up from two semitones flat - didn't appreciate how much strings would slip/drift as you tuned up their neighbours! It took a few passes... I still need to do the fine-tuning, which is the hardest part.

I've been learning the intro to Gold Teeth II - great fun!

St Al: Waht the hlel was all taht stfuf you wree wrtiing the otehr day? I cuodln't udnrestnad a dman tinhg!

Howard


User: lovebob | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: Phoenix Report:

lovebob here. Anyone who has known me for 3 or less years knows about my ongoing pissing match with that bastard God. I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a rush to engage the almighty in such a way as to force his hand in a battle of cheap shots (lightning, for example being a hollow victory for the omnipowerful)and I'd be sinning ommissively if I didn't add, utterly amazed with my continued ability to come up with meaningful goods when the ball's been in my court. Granted I chose the weapons for this duel, but so far, MY sucker punches have been clean and acurate with nary a civilian nor high spirit casualty. There have been no comments with regards to the son, the HG, the angels, evangelists, preists, Popes, etc. So I say here, and everywhere else I can, that using my S.O. and her life situation to get at me was the act of a pussy. There, i said it. God's a pussy. Pulling Dallas out from under Peg and I makes YOU look bad, big guy. Yeah it hurt like hell, and the tag line was super effective, but obvious to the point that it don't count. Go ahead, take a few more shots, I'll even lob you a couple of soft balls.

Anyways, Tuesday night a ticket emerged, my southwest rapid rewards coupons arrived in the mail and I poked a hole in my no-schedule schedule with just enough time to slip out of San Diego and into Phoenix on a last minute whim. The show was un fucking real. Trust me when I say this. I'm working the unfucking real side of the street this week.

I'll get to as many as I can before chem #1 finds Chem #2 in my bloodstream and the Vortex Tango begins.

It was an awesome, AWESOME show, and anything critical I have to say aboutit is nit picking at best.

1. Aja-Hello world, here's our boy Keith Carlock. No warm up period, no ading in through the shallow end of the pool. Boom, bad, Boom. "Ok that's done, now whats next?

2.Time Out Of Mind- Cool choice. great execution. Yeah girls. DF's melodica was shrill, but i loved the part.


Godslammer- I'm too close to this one to be objctive.
4. Caves.. I also too close in a distantly related way to be any good other than to say I shook with chills.
5.Black Cow-"so outrageous" on the 2 it was on 2 yes?) Little trails of intentional twist low key yet profound.

6. Bablawn- Fun delivery from the most relaxed, confident and playful Donad. I'd prefer Don sat out on the line "Tell me I'm The Only On"

7. Daddy Don't Live- Daddy sounds a bit to fiesta for my taste... Horns and vibe scream mid to late 70's SNL bumpers. Becker,s vocals reache in and instant transformation. Especially cool pronounciacion of the word "ligger" (as in Liggerztore)
8 Peg-JH strikes a good balance on the solo. The bvox seem different yet familiar.
9. HOME AT lAST -lillte newer than neer thgings meana kt

That's code kids for log off now before it gets anymore too later
lovebob


User: Jim# | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: RoyScam: Hey brother. Having provisions and lots of beer takes on new meaning, eh? And my right arm is going numb from goosing the chain saw every 6 hours, but yeah, we're still standing. A lot better off than many in the area too. Next time a Cat2 hurricane blows through, I'm staying at somebody else's place. Somebody farther west.

StAl's, maybe.


User: C | Month: 8 | Day: 25

Message: This morning I deleted an email, too late I saw it was from someone saying "...ok give me your address and I'll send the CD..."

I get so much spam, and I usually delete them pushing Alt and Delete which means that those emails are gone, forever.

Whoever you are, please email me again!

---

Roy Scam - good to hear that.

So, you've had wind in your hair?

I wish I had that. Hair.

Don't forget to compose, record and buy stamps and envelopes, and if you wanna get inspired, check in on Dr Fill's page:

http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill

Or click the URL above.

---

Have a great weekend everybody, I know I will, I am going down to the C-House with Donna Tartt's latest novell.


User: Gina | Month: 8 | Day: 24

Message: A quick one now :-)
Hey Beerberian! YES, Concarneau indeed. It's a surprising place, at first it seems deserted and when you follow the curve along the seashore you suddenly enter a genuine town, the Ville Close is typical ...loved it there. Golfe de Morbihan must sound familiar to you as well then :-)
Ange, see you later :-)

Roy.Scam, the 19th century?
Mmmm. I for one wouldn't mind if they had you travel in a timemachine, you'd be a reliable and humorful eyewitness :-)


User: Dar Chorfas | Month: 8 | Day: 24

Message: 
Please drop in on Marian.

She is begging for a visit with H.S.

She is so "sweet" don't you think? A extremely nice gal. The best!

If you do I will be forever indebted to you!

XXXXXXOOOOOOXXXXXXOOOOOO

Dar Chorfas signed sealed delivered I'm yours!


User: Roy.Scam | Month: 8 | Day: 24

Message: Hello fellow yellow dwellers,
I haven't kept up with these distinguished pages recently for reason of really foul weather.
Hurricanes blow. I just spent 12 hours in a wind tunnel and seven days in the 19th century. Somewhere in the midst of the fear, damage, and inconvenience, my wife astutely opined, "I HATE disasters!"
When the electricity finally came on, I could hear voices of elation echoing up and down the block as if it were Armistice Day.

Is everyone in hurricane land still standing? Hutch, Jim#, fezo, lisa, StevieD, Joker, Altamira?

DACW~ Clever retort to my unintentional linking of Steely Dan and C-batteries. Would you have risked that quip if I had inadvertantly linked Steely Dan with some other hurricane related item like 6-volt batteries, masking tape, sandbags, generators, bottled water or chain saws?

Clas~ Don't give up on me. I'll tape something as soon as near-normalcy is restored and I'll have it to you on time and under budget.

My son (who insolently had electricity days ago) said that he heard the version of "Third World Man" from "The Music of Steely Dan" on the radio and liked it a lot.

RS


User: Slinky_Redfoot | Month: 8 | Day: 24

Message: 
When will they add Deacon Blues? I believe the 2003 tour will be incomplete without this very wonderful SD tune. "I'm ready to cross that fine line, learn to work the saxophone, I play just what I feel drink scotch whisky all night long and die behind the wheel". I hope Donald and Walter hear my prayer.Slang me!


User: Aja | Month: 8 | Day: 24

Message: Speaking of Marie LaVeau, has anyone heard from chere?


Aja


User: Zeke | Month: 8 | Day: 24

Message: yeah, I know it's late, but.....

I really had a great time in West Palm
The weather was great (thx Marie LaVeau) no threat of a hurricane.
Same show as all listed below.
Donald had the funky "head groove" going all night.
He looked so fucking cool. Walt was collective.
The band was awesome. period.
No complaints.
These guys should play every year.
There are so many bands that sound like a shit sandwich.
These guys are so clean.

been listening to String Cheese Incident - Outside Inside.

It's time for this South LA. hot weather to go away.


User: Duncan | Month: 8 | Day: 24

Message: Great Stage visuals up on the ODP


User: Randy | Month: 8 | Day: 24

Message: 
'NYB' - Songbooks are not always issued for every album; it's usually dependent upon the sales of the album in question. Thus far I have not seen the songbook for 'Everything Must Go.' The transcriptions for Steely Dan's material are almost invariably wrong in all the songbooks (off the top of my head the 'Two Against Nature' songbook had notation for the title track with the time signature given as 3/4, when in actuality it's in 6/8), but they can make for good jumping off points for at least getting you in the ballpark in regards to chord transitions. Hope that helps-

Randy
NIGHTFLY62(at)aol.com


User: angel | Month: 8 | Day: 24

Message: Peg: Thanks for the set list. If you do decide to come up to LA, with underage daughter in tow, let me know. My whole family will be there on Wednesday and would love to say hi to you.

Gina: Wow, I really got a post out of you. Thanks for the color on France. It all sounds so nice. Especially from a painting point of view. Yes, they do Lunch with Gina and in my opinion, it is the best cut from the album. It is done very close to the original and of course, so very cool to dance to. Not to take anything away from EMG (title cut) itself, but it is not quite as easy to dance to. (must be that bump, double bump thing...) :-)


User: firemop | Month: 8 | Day: 24

Message: Normally I post on the blue, but I thought I would share some photos that I took at the Dallas show on Sunday night. The security guys were pretty cool and let me take all the photos I wanted as long as I stayed in my seat.

http://members.roadfly.com/firemop/page_01.htm

Enjoy!

-fm


User: Beerberian | Month: 8 | Day: 24

Message: Gina; Did you get to Concarneau - another lovely place . I quite agree on the Carnac thing very thought provoking place - almost spiritual I found. We also got off the beaten track and found some of the less well visited menhirs and dolmen ... Maybe if we offered to take Don & Walt to see 'em they might come over and tour !!

GB; Guesses which solo Mr Herrington is playing on the latest tour pics ...I vote for Kid C ?? any other offers


User: Gina on the couch 'til suppertime | Month: 8 | Day: 24

Message: hey Ange, thanx for getting my mind in a grin again :-)
right after my birthday (40, geez ...) we left in the car and spent some time in France, Bretagne, wherever the wind took us (read, my old ford fiesta 1989). so i didn't really got to say thanks to those who sent me their birthday wishes :-) Bluz, Wormy, T, Steveedan and my Wiggy-buds (lol) mucho gracias.
And hey hey hey, good for "them" they decided to put the LWG-song on their playlist. Hmmm. Makes me feel a little better, still protesting they're not crossing the Big Pond...

Bretagne is a beautiful part of France. Never too keen on that specific country, but this trip had me change my heart. Bretagne is rich, rich in history, their ties to the Celtic culture, a (dead?) language of their own and mysteries all over the place, down south in Carnac, thousands of stones, megaliths which make me "see" the druids and ancient pagan ways very vividly.
By chance we drove into Quimper, the museum had an exhibition of Paul Gauguin and his friends such as Emile Bernard ... during their stay in Pont-Aven. It was a neat exhibition, works from all over the globe, some from New York, Japan and private collections. What struck me the most were Gauguin's playful sketches and his carving on wood!!!!
So we just had to drive down to the village Pont-Aven and see for ourselves what's so special about the place. Must hand it to the village they didn't sell their town out for touristic profits, it's a quiet little place and it's balanced, it's all balanced.
Beautiful environment ofcourse, all along the French coast in Bretagne.
Sigh. We had to go back "home" or else we would have just kept on driving :-) earning some bucks along the way, we figured we wouldn't mind living our lives that way, hehehe ...

hey T, speak of synchronicity ... Gauguin makes me think of Michael Franks and his Objects of Desire (the paintings we saw were pre-Tahiti) and just now a dragonfly was outside my window here :-) Mr. Franks somehow has this feel for life and nature and whatever boosts up imagination :-)

Bluz, Rickie Lee will soon release her new album!!!!

Okay, will leave this space and my off-Dan talk so you can resume your giggy (do i sound envious now, i guess so LOL darn, they MUST cross the Big Pond and come to Europe ....) revelations :-)

Banyan Tree EMG Spins FINE Today Bow,
G.


User: Dr. Fill | Month: 8 | Day: 24

Message: I've been up all night, trying to find the right words... I am trying to get you guys excited about your life!

Visit my page and get inspired:

http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill

Or click the URL above.


User: C @ W | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: Ken V - great! Got your CD and the lyrics this morning.

Guys, come on now, FlaDave and Ken V has shown that it is possible to send CD's over the sea. It can't be that hard to take a walk down to the post office?

YGK? You mailed me and told me you should send your CD, but that was months ago.

Hutch - hope everything is going fine with your new house, and maybe you could join us now when you have got a little more time on your hand?

Schwinn - your vacation is over, get down to it now, please.

Lisa G? Is she around? Anyone's got her email address?

Howard - have you tuned that piano yet?

Well, everybody:

http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/sketchesandstrangeloops

Or click the URL above.


User: John Ortiz | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: Hi! Iv'e got tickets to the Oct.2 show at The Universal Amphitheater and would like to know if anyone has a set list for this tour? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, John.


User: peg | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: From Albuquerque:

Just a list for now; maybe Wormy will post the details later (and he'll remember every single detail, I know). I've got an early flight back to San Diego to face my "real job", so this will have to be quick. I hope I have this in the right order.

Started at 8:10-ish
Band playing intro
Aja
Time Out Of Mind
...DF making fun of being in Albuquerque...noting that "wierd unconcious things were appearing", including "rodies with glowing horns on their heads"...or something like that
Godwhacker
The Caves of Altamira
Black Cow
Babylon Sisters
Daddy Don't Live In That NYC No More
....band intros (why do each of the guys do a little solo when introduced individually, but the girls only wave and smile when their names are announced? More on that later, maybe, if I have an attitude and the time)
....lots of moths flying around the stage; DF making jokes about pausing to do a "bug sweep", and then engaging the audience in a discussion to tell him what kinds of bugs were flying around...everything from "BOGS" to "moss" to "floss"....he decided they were "oggs"...then WB said "nevermind about the moths"...and they moved on to
Peg
Home At Last
INTERMISSION
"The Steely Dan Show"????, complete with horn guys singing through their horn mics...way fun and cool
Janie Runaway
Hey Nineteen
Haitian Divorce
Lunch With Gina
Everything Must Go (for those of you who know me, no, I actually didn't break out into tears as I predicted)
Parker's Band
Josie
Kid Charlemagne
Don't Take Me Alive
...the only encore was FM.... that's it. Done at 10:30 pm.

Can't wait 'til Friday in San Diego. Maybe I'll disappear from work and sneak my daugher out of school for a day to go with me to LA, too? Her latest questions:

If Banyan trees are in Hawaii, why is he singing about Chinese music and Aja (=Asia)?

and

If you're supposed to follow the laws, how come they're singing about making up laws and breaking them just because Josie is coming home?

and

Is Peg about you?

Special thanks to Becci (my sister) and Wormy (from New Orleans).

And that Keith drummer kid...geez, he actually had Albuquerque folks standing and clapping and screaming!

Hopefully more later - goodnight for now.


User: John | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: Hysterical advance/interview in tomorrow's Arizona Republic: http://www.azcentral.com/ent/calendar/articles/0921steely21-CP.html

All best,
John


User: NYB | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: Here's a question for Steveedan or any of the other instrumentalists out
there...

It seemed that the Two Against Nature songbooks were released shortly
after the cd was released. When do you think the EMG songbooks will
be availiable?


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: Hypo - go to andymetzger.com, hit 'sounds' if you never have, he's got dozens of obscure old stuff on there which you can download. Oddball stuff that wasn't ever released, great Y2K live cuts, demos, etc. That could keep you busy for quite a while, but, no there aren't any new songs over which to obsess. Carlock mentioned one track which was very fast that they worked on a bit but that stuff is guarded like the bullion at Ft. Knox. Have you experienced 2nd Arrangement?


User: hypothetical friend | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: let me pose this question to all the dan experts out in TVland... are there any outtakes, secret songs, hidden tracks, etc from EMG? i have rocked this cd 24/7 since its release... the only reprieve being a stint with the audioslave disc. i need another steely dan track to obsess over before i am forced to buy elephant, new one from the white stripes.


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: Rajah, angel: Thanks. I've heard good things about Universal before...Beacon's a great one...keep 'em coming folks...


How's the Gorge?


...not that I can afford to travel to any of these places...YET...


StAl: Kinda like Elmer Fudd designing one of the Robert Trent Jones executive courses, eh?


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: Yeah Christine, Pixeleen will be played for a long, long time.

Hey SteveeDan: where are we all meeting for the Universal shows?


User: Christine | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: Hey thanks for the compliment C@W i will assume your name is also christine? anyways i'm really glad i found this web site i love talking to othe Dan fans. My dad has made me a Steely Dan fan since i was in the womb and for that i thank him


i agree pixeleen as the next single. Godwhacker would be cool too


User: Spike' s Moll | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: Molly, I'll be glad to share names with ya. Welcome to the yellow ;-)
Clas, you are sooooooo bad! I like that in a person. lol lol


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: Universal Amphitheatre is a very good concert venue here in LA. Not as good as the Wiltern which I compare favorably with the Beacon in NYC, but still an excellent sound system either up close or way back.


User: Missy Mateo | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: 
411 regarding Shoreline - it was build over toxic land fill. Bill was always one to save a buck on any purchase.


User: angel | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: Mu/DACW: Universal's acoustics are good (I believe). At least my audiophile work Dan Friend is hoping for a good sounding show. :-)

Gina: If your work didn't beckon so much, maybe we could have Lunch sometime....lol
Thanks for the nice words on my review.

Cool San Diego Radio station interview coming up. Bluz, did you set that up?

Just as a point of information to the people who might be coming from far away for the Universal concerts. The Amphitheatre is at the entrance to Universal Studios. In order to get to the venue, you park in a structure and have to walk through Universal Citywalk (their way of getting foot traffic for the shops). Think amusement parks, since that is what you are dealing with, and all the related (parking) costs.


User: StAl | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: MU: I meant the Starplex's design is a Bill Graham style shed, originally conceived in Mountain View California as Shoreline Amphitheater (with the Grateful Dead in mind). Shoreline's top is different and I'm not sure exactly how Starplex came to be, but I am pretty sure it was part of "Bill Graham Presents" before they started selling off to various entities. This weekend I'm supposed to attend Widespread Panic at the new White River Amphitheater (which similar to Starplex). I'll be sitting on the lawn. Curious to hear how it sounds.

StAl


User: lp | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: thanks guys - also birdy is a nicer way to say the outdated "chik" - lol - but that's reaching maybe

lol

and a happy tuesday to you...


User: sunrise sleeper sofas | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: 

Hey Oz Men Not.

Thank you and stay out this time. I just heard the door close at around 5:40 a.m.

Be gone with you.


User: Gina skipping Lunch | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: sort of as a protest "they" aren't crossing the Big Pond and strut their EMG and other stuff on European soil ...
but nice to read reviews or be a witness to a fine Angelic perception in Roseland :-)

Best regards to the familiar and new GB-crowd,
(instead of "our" Jaap de Hoop-Scheffer becoming the new boss of NATO -as if we don't know who really runs that show- i'd really rather have Steely Dan plant their nuclear music waves and re-design the dutch landscapes :-))

Banyan Tree Bow,
G.


User: Bab Dekaken | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: 

"GEM - I think you got yourself mixed up with Pompe."

Why does Pompe seem to be following you around? You must be a Pompe magnet. I can't imagine why? It begins with an e and ends with and o and is 3 letters. Figure it out and you win a Snickers bar.

Petit Mechouar


User: Bab Dekaken | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: 

"GEM - I think you got yourself mixed up with Pompe."

Why does Pompe seem to be following you around? You must be a Pompe magnet. I can't imagine why? It begins with an e and ends with and o and is 3 letters. Figure it out and you win a Snickers bar.

Petit Mechouar


User: Marrakesh | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: 
C@W,

I really do want you out by noon. Check time comes early. Crime does not pay. I don't think you and Dave would be very compatiable. I am pretty sure he is a Republican. You might trying listening to what I have to say not that I really want to talk to you anymore. You really do not bring out the best in me.... oil and water.

Marrakesh


User: Hot Lava | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: 

C@W,

I keep telling you I have Aries rising and am part Hungarian yet you continue to try and get my goat what do you expect?

Caution: combustable hot lava and dangerous sparks when continually annoyed ~ stand back!

How many times do I have to tell you if you can't stand the heat stay out of the volcano dude? Pay attention.


User: C | Month: 8 | Day: 23

Message: Does everybody know that there are post ponees over at the GBook CD-page?

Check it out:

http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/sketchesandstrangeloops

Or click the URL above.

But this Post Ponee doesn't mean you can slow down 'til after Christmas...


User: C @ W | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Christine? My oh my, 17 years old.

You have a very beautiful name Christine.

Molly - ÷hhh... sorry, I don't remember.

GEM - I think you got yourself mixed up with Pompe.


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: angel: The Keytar was out - Herington provided some licks as well...now the fog is really settling in...must...get ...rest

I think I forgot to mention that TOOM between Aja and Godwhacker was another spot on performance in the first set...I think my head was spinning in awe...

Lunch With Gina, Herington's guitar on DTMA, FM, Cubana Chant, Aja, TOOM, Caves, Babylon Sisters, and Home At Last were the highlights in my opinion...it was all great although Baker chose a different take on the Black Cow Feldman solo - interesting...

the band overcame what I think are pretty awful acoustics...St Al told me that Bill Graham designed Starplex/now Smirnoff for the Grateful Dead...I think we all know what Bill Graham was smoking when he designed Smirnoff (I guess all this goes without saying)

...the problem is the roof materials - old beer cans it seems, how high it is, slope relative to the floor...

t's an inverse funnel effect - the narrowest part is just before the grassy knoll...errr pasture...err lawn seating...like playing acoustic tennis...stuff gets out of phase fast especially at high volume (this may explain why the treble on TvN and EMG are mixed so high) - do a bunch of these venues in the 90s and there's goes the high end of the hearing frequency response...it reminded me a little of the University of North Carolina's old Charmichael Auditorium...any of our friend back in the Old North State know exactly what I mean...Heard Elvis Costello and Squeeze there - like listening to a tinny radio real loud inside a can of tuna...I'll opt for arranging to see in a better acoustic venue somehow someway next tour...

In fact, I'm asking for thoughts about the best acoustic venue that Dan frequents!

In contrast, Cameron Indoor Stadium (designed for Ella Fitzgerald), Carnegie Hall, Beacon Theatre, Performing Arts Center in Austin, Paramount Theatre in Austin...man, those are acoustics...I finally found a half-finished version of the Norah Jones concert review from last year rescued from a damaged hard-drive (and we know how painful that can be) that I might finish finally in October...Norah and the band were so good (considerably better than the album - which is darn good) with the exception of the guitarist who was just good enough... and the acoustics crystalline and permeant it was literally like getting slow f*cked for 90 minutes...fortunately, (I guess) my daughter was there or I would have been arrested.


User: Vince Outlaw | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Something dedicated to all you Steely Dan fans...

Thursday, September 25, 2003 from 6 to 9 pm PT on Jazz 88 San Diego (webcast at http://KSDS-FM.org), we'll be exploring the Jazzier aspects of the music of Steely Dan with the Jazz musicians that play it everynight on the Everything Must Go tour. We'll also be finding out what these fine musicians are doing with their own musical careers by featuring music from their solo recordings. In addition to live, in-studio interviews with members of the band, we'll be playing some classic Steely Dan tracks, some newer tunes from Everything Must Go, and some of the classic Jazz tracks that Walter Becker and Donald Fagan have mentioned as influences throughout the years. And special guests may still make their presence known. It can all be heard live this Thursday, September 25, 2003 from 6 to 9 pm PT on Jazz 88, KSDS San Diego, 88.3 FM and world-wide webcast at http://KSDS-FM.org.

Confirmed guests include Carolyn Leonhart, Michael Leonhart, Jim Pugh, Jon Herrington, and Walt Weiskopf.

More information on The New Jazz Thing website:

http://thenewjazzthing.com/2003/09/21.html#a1101

Join us on the radio Thursday and see you all at the SD show in SD on Friday!

Much Love...VO


User: angel | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: On jury duty this week. Ugh!
I don't know how you lawyer types make it through the boredom.

DACW: Glad the kids liked it. Did you catch what instrument was trying to do the synth solo during the ending of Lunch with Gina? I was so busy replicating it in my little corner of Roseland, that I never did find out.

Aussie: Oops. I guess my question about Daddy was a no no.... :-)
I didn't mean it as a criticism, just an inquiry. In good news, it does add a cut from Katy Lied to the set list.


User: Tafraout | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: 

Aussiegem,

Not into this two step any longer it is almost like a hop scotch being played by your rules only. Life is too short and I am too old to be interested in this pathetic dance any longer. Looking for someone else to dance with that does not get off on continually stepping on my toes. it really is not any fun and no you have nothing to offer me so tired of wasting my time. Not going to LV to see you. Why would you even think that? Get real!

Tafraout.


User: DACW - if you paid attention, you'd be worried too | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Jive Miguel - sales have been steadily slumping since week one...no TV appearances...very limited promo by AOL Time Warner...it may not go Gold whose limit I think is back to 1 million

...that is UNLESS PIXELEEN IS RELEASED AS THE NEXT SINGLE!!!!


We were listening to EMG on the long road to the concernt and back...the whole album stnds up well after numerous listens...I'm particularly fond of GreenBook, Pixeleen, Lunch With Gina (which soundeded great live last night), the title track which grows even more than the others with continuous listens...Slang of Ages I think is underrated and Godwhacker is snappy...the blues synth harp into the guitar solo are just remendous...


Start pleading, begging, requesting PIXELEEN - let's have a nationwide PUSH


BTW, during the intros, Walter mentioned ...or at least it sounded like it! they'd like to have Weiskopf (who's a stud on the sax) on FUTURE albums!!!

...but then in that shed acuostic enviro - i may have been hearing things...but i don't think so...


User: Rumpy | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: 

bluz ,

The truce is officially over.


Rumpsfield

war not peace reigns


User: The Original Jive Miguel | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: I haven't posted in years...you know, the divorce thing...nasty divorce thing! However...I'm back, sort of...anyway, I went to the Gorge concert and, of course, it was awesome! The new album might be their best...to me anyways it is incredible...I was just wondering if anyone on this site is aware how well the album has done commercially? I mean, I have bought it 3 times (DVD, DVD Audio, CD)and although commercial success doesn't mean shit to the overall greatness of the album...I was still wondering...All their albums have sold well (even Kamikiriad, which some reviewer stated that it didn't sell at all, sold over 1 million copies) and based upon how good, and relatively accessible, the tracks are I thought it should have sold a ton! Any news? Thanks!

P.S. I am heading to Vegas for the show (all the way from Canada) and I look forward to seeing some of the brotherhood there! Take care!


User: the other one | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Moll-Sorry Moll the one and only-how about you be the Mistress of Mayhem and I'll just be
Honestly, this is the first time I have posted here-usually I am on the BB but I know what you mean-no worries, I'm not the faux molly, just another real deal
Are we cool?

Unless we want to think of my own personal moniker


User: Moll, the one and only Mistress of Mayhem | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Stop posting under my name. You'll give poor Aja a nervous break-down trying to keep up with all this. ;-)
Clas, you lost me Babe. Do ya want a photo of Spike? What exactly are you saying yes to?
Wild Bill, nice to see your messages. I hope you are doing okay.
Bluz, where you been?
BB, alway good to see you.
Dr Mu........great review of Show


User: molly | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: no Christine not at all odd-wouldn't even be odd if you found Walt attractive either
probably being that they are so talented ups the attractive factor-and sister if you're only 17, even better yet in their book


User: Christine | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Is it odd that I, a seventeen year old girl, finds Donald Fagen extremely attractive? Steely Dan was amazing at Mohegan Sun Arena in Connecticut.


User: t | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Raj - I'm crushed! And I was trying to say the same thing you were about the "birdie"...

actually, I like lp's take better too...


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: lp - I like your take better.


User: lp | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: i thought the fling with the birdy was after the break up - as a way to drown his sorrows - but it was short-lived and merely a fling and now she's gone - adding to the emptiness of the scene and its shallowness...

that she was a sweet bird but left him too


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: I get the impression that the little birdey friend is the gal he was fooling around with briefly but his wife caught him and ba-boom.


User: Aussie | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Once the 2003 Everything Must Go Tour was well underway, many (not all) posters here and on the Blue cried, begged, and pleaded for the Dan to "vary it up a bit". Now that they are doing that, albeit switching maybe one or two numbers, (see Dallas, Texas reviews) people are now asking why.

No wonder, even the most well meaning Dan enthusiast can get pretty darned annoying. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.

Aus


User: tones | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Another "better late than never" EMG observation - could the

"I had a little birdy friend
By morning she was gone
Birdy Good-bye
Birdy bye-bye"

bridge in TTIMTM be a reference to the Beatles "Norweigian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)", and by association an admittance to a fling, maybe the fling that ended the relationship that the narrator misses the most?

I think maybe...

----------------

DACW - most excellent report... inspired me to play EMG (LOUD) as soon as I got to work today...

laina - welcome to the (in)famous yellow... sit a spell... take your shoes off... oh, just be sure to step over the occasional poop left by strays...

sno cones

t


User: Aussie | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Dan Audio Crack Whore aka Herr Doktor Myu: Bravo! I was slurping those sno kones right with your kids the entire night. Thanks.


Aus


User: YGK | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: I ran into "our Man Abu" today........nice guy, but a little mysterious.....

ygk


User: Peg | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Missed Dallas...but I'll be in Albuquerque tomorrow night. Are there any pre-show gatherings happening?


User: NYB | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: DACW,

Thanks for the review of the Dallas show last night.
It's nice to see that your kids enjoy The Dan too. Great music easily
overcomes any generation gap. I noticed this phenomenon at the James
Taylor concert back in July and at the Bob Dylan concert last year too.

Here's a question I always wanted to ask...
In the song "Throw Back The Little One's", we have the verse;

"Lost in the barrio, I walk like an injun so Carlo won't suspect
something's wrong here."

I always wondered if D&W were referring to the 1960's/70's mafia kingpin
Carlo Gambino when the wrote that verse. Think so?



User: U know | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: laina: re: the theme of the night...what a bummer!

oh, kids, especially son were really into it...daughter was the big fan for years, but son has come on strong and was singing along to Lunch with Gina...

...My daugher was estatic about Babylon Sisters (her favorite song in the lexicon) and was pumped in set 1, but she faded a bit near the end of the second set - coming down from that sno kone and coke buzz..."these songs are longer than the album!" and "are we there yet...err is it over?"


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: angel: that's my best at 3 am...too bad my best at 3 pm is only marginally better...re: Daddy - it was "That 70s Show"...my hypothesis is that this is a Dallas only thingy...

I think security must have anticipated bellows of "PIXELEEN!!!!!" eminating from your truly if they had allowed folks in the aisle...

...or maybe it was the Sanata "Abraxas"-like video effects that had inebriated stuck in the 70s (for a night at least) Texans thinking: "must...tear...down...goalposts!"


User: laina | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Hey folks! I found my way from the BlueBook over here; nice to see some familiar posters. Great review, DACW. It's too bad that security wouldn't let people dance. It was like that at the show I went to as well, and I just think to myself, "What is it to them if a few thousand people are standing up and dancing instead of sitting?" Angel I was wondering the same thing regarding the switch of "Slang" for "Daddy..." Why? Glad to hear that Walter did it well, though. Maybe I'll get to hear that this Sunday!! *grins*

Good morning!!

Lainalove


User: angel | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: DACW: But did you like it....LOL
Great review, spelling errors and all. How did the kids like the show?
Why the switchout of Daddy for Slang? Any ideas?


User: Gem | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: 
C@W,

Didn't you threaten to pee on my puter? That ain't my idea of foreplay dude.

That is just plan crude!

Gem


User: C | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: MU - Tom gave Peg the thumb? He did that in Stockholm on the previous tour too, I thought that was some running-joke-in-the-band kind of.

I mean, he really overdid the slapping on the Peg refrain.


User: Dr Fill | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: JayDubz and others, there's a new deadline:

http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/sketchesandstrangeloops

And this is a thing I think you NEED to hear:

http://www.ateljelundkvist.se/z/drFill

Or click that URL above.



User: duncan | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: DACW:cheers !!


User: Xanax? | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: NO! Your Xanax days are over Mu, you have to realise that.

As Dr Fill would put it:

ū I am not telling you what you WANT to hear, I am telling you what you NEED to hear...


User: C | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Sorry Mu,

I didn't mean your Steely Dan review :-)


User:  | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Oh, I forgot. The Security Nazis stopped any hint of dancing in the aisles or near the stage near the end of the show...they looked glaringly on my mini Magnalite with the power of a triple sun which subbed for a lighter as the crowd clamored for encores...


User: C | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: pearl power in CAPITALS - my guitar?


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: Band Uber Alles

ąmade the 3 hour trip back in 2:40 in a Steely Dan haze through patches of fog and skunkąWe left this enclave in the middle of nowhere Texas about 3 pm ū turned out just moi and the kiddosąstopped at a Whataburger 30 miles from Dallas for some hearty fare on the way into fair parkąI eased the milk truck in the spaceąas crowd control made collecting the $7 dollar usual parking fee null and voidą

DanFest seemed to be disbanded in the North parking lot but the time we got there ū sorry I missed whoeverąThe wait after the gates opened was not badąmade a cell phone call or tow, but couldnĘt see my shadow with the cell phone on the ground. I think in Texas that means 6 more weeks of Summer!

ąwe skipped the long beer and hurricane lines and went for the Hard stuff ū sno cones with self-serve syrup. This proved a challenge as a mini-swarm of killer bees hovered over the syrup dispenser islandą

ąWho found our seats 11 rows deep on the left/WalterĘs side of the stageą the Security Nazi (see below) responded to my query of 7ö30 show time by handing me a folded piece of security talking point with sure enough a time of 8 pmąBy now it was 7 pm and we wiled away is what turned out to be a very pleasant evening (80¦ down to 70¦ by show end) by playing name that state/country. My 8 year old son got on a roll a creamed me with Brunei and Swazailand. Other entertainment was finding seat positions and strategies to peer around a guy in front of us with a combined size of Hoops and St Aląvery amiable with a nice wife who was happy to see my kids there getting a real musical lessonąHe swerved half-drunken half music possessed throughout the show and we had a clear view 87% of the timeąwe spill purple grape sno cone mush on the floor ū now our clothes are tie dyed to fit tonights theme! then a much drunker guy and wife constantly apologizing was attempting to find seats 12 down from us. HeĘd take 2 steps, then would have to ask us 4 times what our seats were to regain his bearingąall this reminds me ū it may the beer of a Dallas thing. There were heads bobbing indeed with the songs. But half were side to side!

The place was just teeming with aging boomers, as well there should be in a beer buzz that took them back to the 70s, and the band gladly obliged


A snazzy jazzy CUBANA CHANT began and the band took over the night air.

A number of things struck me immediately: (1) how tight and in sync the entire band isąabsolutely cohesive without a weak linkąthe swung, they rocked. Truly Amazingą

From left to right: Cornelius Bumpus had his earty, soulful groove going and took a number of tunes home like the final encore FM

Walt Weiskopf had the right combination of chops, blues, and soul that gave the Steely Dan sound a core we all know and love

Michael Leonhart on unmated and muted trumpet swung from smooth accompaniment to early Maynard Ferguson stratospherics without the excess

Jim Pugh provided an extra dimension ū he gets better and betterąthis was acknowledge by Walter in the intros before he slipped in another trombone jokeą

Jon Herrington flat delivered the good tonight. Going from Larry CarltonĘs rhythm guitar from Aja to the Dias solosąand ripping it to shreds on DonĘt Take Me Alive and KidCąWOW!!! DonĘt understimate this man!

WalterĘs playing was outstanding ū a lot of confidence in those blues/jazz chopsąa no noodling zone tonight

Texan Keith Carlockąwhat can you say? HeĘs got jazz and rock chops..reminds me a bit of a slightly more jazzy Stewart Coplelandąexcept Copelandquicked jabbed on that high hadąalmost sounded like 2 drummerącome to think of it Keith sounded like 2 drummers on ParkerĘs Band.

Tom Barney ū on the chair or stool (is that dreadlocks?) is rock bottom solid with a bit of jazzy fuzz in the bass

Dr. Fagen was all over the Rhodes, melodica, keytarąvery animated and good sound. Primarily the vocals were outstanding! Strongągood toneągreat phrasingąblending so tightly with the babe choirąnever noticed a flubbed line ū but who cared??

Ted Baker was solid with some flavorful arpeggios

The Babe choir: Cindy Mizelle, Carolyn Leonhart, Cynthia Calhoun had just the right blend..did some semi-choreographed dancing, with lost of individuality thrown in

(2) Walter and especially Donald REALLY seemed to enjoy the show and performing. The Donald was really in the zone whether doing hi Ray Charles on the Rhodes or strutting and bobbing with the melodica or keytar/midi thing

(3) The wanted to give the folks in Dallas what they wantedąand it was a 70s flashbackąalthough far better than I remember the 70s!

(4) arrangements massaged ū not a note for note copy of the recordings ū which is a very good thing for many reasons

Set List:

Set A


Cubana Chant ū very nice, jazzy, summeryąhorns show their tightness as a unitąCarlock know when not to overwhelm a band..almost a John Guerin tough hereąJim Push sounds just great

Walter strolls out like a jolly brown-haired Santa with a guitarąmaroon or brown shirt ū hard to tell with the 70s lighting.

Donald comes out with a blue shirt ū not tucked in

Kudos to the guy who mixed the instruments ū nice balance ū could hear the whole band and each individual, although Baker might have been mixed a little low (however see below)ąthis is especially true as Smirnoff is a TIN BOX with big speaker sets probably there from the Boston concert in 1976ąI new the place and that the acoustics would SUCKąplus someone had turned the AMPS up to 11ąCredit the band for being to tight, cohesive, and spot on throughout the concert

Aja ū Donald very animated on the Rhodes first, then pulls out the melodica

Vocals are stellar, phrasing and use of space never betterąin fact considerably better than TvNąDonald really knows how to SING a conversation! This piece is open enough to hear Ted Baker..dreamy movementąWeiskopf absolutely nails the sax solo and Herington and mentioned is superbąWalter gets in a few good licksąCarlock muscular!IĘm ALL tingly!!!

Godwhacker ū very solid version ąDonald almost apologizes at the end for the subject matterąmy son digs this one ū I told them itĘs a cartoon (which is close to the truth)

Caves of Altamira ū one of the shows highlightsąPugh has an amazing soloąFagenĘs vocals are in the zone

Black Cow ū Fagen and now Babe Choir in the zone togetherąBumpus and Michael Leonhart with very since work

Babylon Sisters ū a surpriseąthe Babe Choir ōShakes it!ö Pugh with a monumental trombone soloąFagen reaches for the Keytar. Ted Baker with very nifty organ workąWalter with a gripping blues outtroąI yell GO WALTER GO!!!! From the 11th row

Yeah, I was the guy with the wearing the neon orange color shirt 44 ū looks 24 ęcept a few gray hairs in the temple (have a Dorian Gray Portrait in the atticąor is it I;m starting my second childood early)ąby this timeąIĘm desperately trying to reach Clas on the cell phone to get a kilo of Xanax, IĘm so excited!

ąthought he looked over to us ū nah, itĘs that stand with the lamp he keeps looking atąIs it one of those prompters that W or Clinton use when pretending to connect with people, when theyĘre actually reading the speech?

IĘm ready for Slang of Ages ū but the chords in the intro donĘt sound rightąand thereĘs a good reason! ItsĘ DADDY DonĘt Live In hat NY City No More!! WalterĘs vocals are very good ū IĘve been singling along for a time and WalterĘs right in my rangeąa number of people leave here for more beer ū RUDE BASTARDS!!!

Walter introduces Band - ..I have this wicked dream of Walter hosting the Miss America Pageant!

Peg ū Herington slashes masterfully through the Jay Graydon soloącrowd drunker and more pumpedąFagen starts to mention more and more about the 70sąand thereĘs some lava lamp whit or something on the monitorsąmy daughter asks me later about what is some negative color images of a canyon flying pastąWhereĘs my pet rock? Tom Barney is givinĘ it some REAL THUMB now

Home At Last ū feature Walter and a Michael Leonhart on muted hornącan this cong get any better??

What a set!!! Am anticipating more EMG on Set B


Set Bąafter a drink and bathroom break IĘmhaving some trouble separating then instruments as we start the Steely Dan Showąrealize because IĘm half FreakinĘ DEAF from the ōBost Acousticsö ąnice ōgrove that never quitsö Dr. Fage has fun with thatĘs a little tribute for usąthat we wrote for ourselvesąwe should feel guity ąbut there ya goö

Funny line re: SD t-shirts, hats: ōitĘs only promo stuffąbut hey itĘs good enoughö

Donald comes out in a White Dinner JacketąheĘs lighting up the entire stageąnow wonder he has thos shades on!

Janie Runaway ū horns cookinĘ

Into Hey 19ącrowd even more animatedądrunk girlfriends singing along nowąWeiskopf and Herington shine

Walter takes the mike again for Haitian Divorce..Herington nails it on the wah wah

Lunch With Gina ū Donald swinging the keytarąreally cooks ū really peppy sax takes tome of the soloąanticipating EMG or dare I say Pixeleen??? Fagen keeps alluding to the 70s thoughą

ParkerĘs Band ū the Babe Choir, Weiskopf, Bumpus and Fagen on the Rhodes ū sounds better live than PrretzeląCarlock all over the kitą

Josie ū Wlater duels with Herringtonąthe dreaded 70s drum soloąbuilds Carlock shows his chops

And itĘs EMG!!!!!ą.nah from the Jurassic Period itĘs the tour staple Kid C. No real big change in arrangement from 2000ąhowever, HeringtonĘs guitar is sharp. Carlok has his own shuffle, and unlike the great Purdie, heĘs NEVER lateą

Herrington then take no prisoners on DonĘt; Take Me Aliveąmaybe better than Carlton!!!ącrowd drunker and happier than everąlesseądrunkąhappyąstupidą70sąBush countryąoh now I get it!

Encore: you know ęem you love ęem

My Old School ąreally nice intro Rhodes from The Donald

FM

My Mood Ring seząTIME TO GET TO FUCKINĘ SLEEP!!!!!


User: Clas @ Work | Month: 8 | Day: 22

Message: JayDubz - oh man, I can understand your lack of inspiration. I'll let you know the new deadline.

Wormy - so maybe you're in? Good.

Molly - yes, of course, how silly of me.

Dr Mu - I am away for the weekend and now you have me scrolling half of this very Monday.


User: Rose Beaver | Month: 8 | Day: 21

Message: 

Hey Erase,

Who is who?

Rose Beaver


User: John | Month: 8 | Day: 21

Message: Just in from the Dallas show. From a fan's perspective, this was a great show. I thought the audience was hugely responsive. I saw a show earlier in the summer in Philadelphia, and by comparison, tonight's performance sounded much tighter. The three changes from earlier in the summer were Walter singing "Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No More," "Home at Last" closing out the first set to great effect, and, thankfully, "Lunch With Gina" with the female vocalists ripping the close harmonies. A thing of beauty. I brought a friend who is only 32 and who listened to much of the concert with his eyes closed, raving about the topography of the music. I'm sure he must be right.

I don't think I will have much voice at work tomorrow. Sorry not to see you this time, Jim and Pat!

All best,
John


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 21

Message: Who da boyz?


User: Rose-Bearer | Month: 8 | Day: 21

Message: 

I saw "the boys" last night in Las Vegas. They were great! Almost as good as the Doobies who I saw right accross the street as well. Just a bit more practise and a shift in attitude and the dudes might be some serous competition for the Doobies some day.

Rose - Bearer


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 21

Message: Whcih jsut geos to sohw, dno't swaet the tpyos.


User: StAl | Month: 8 | Day: 21

Message: Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

StAl


User: bassicinstinct | Month: 8 | Day: 21

Message: 

Beerberian:

This guestbook you`ve been imagining...........you know where it is, do`nt you??!!

N


User: Mr Chow | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: YGK - FanofDan (Alan) asked me to provide my e-mail address to you. It should be listed here now (just leave out the "LEAVE OUT" part). Your new CD will be making it's official Australian debut this Wednesday night on VOX FM 106.9. Once again, it is brilliant stuff and I look forward to the positive reactions of the public. Congratulations Malcolm.

Cheers,
Mr Chow.


User: Home at Last | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: BB..may she fill the hall with her talent & soul for the moment, please talk with her...and send her my best"

flower.."driving sunset to the sea"...hang on"

played Friday

Gerald Wilson..New York, New Sound..'blues for the count"(new)

Zan Gardner..Heres My Heart.."exactly like you"

Louie Bellson..Cool Cool Blue.."smedley"

James Harman Band..Two Sides To Every Story.."my little girl"

Junior Wells.."give me one reason"

Terence Blanchard..Bounce.."on the verge"(new)

Cedar Walton..Latin Tinge.."latino blue"

Grant Green..Blues for Lou..'title"

Kenny Burrell/jim Rainey..Two Guitars.."blue duke"

Rickie Lee Jones..Pop Pop.."bye bye blackbyrd"

Joe Chambers..Urban Grooves.."surrey with the fringe on top"(new)

Donald Byrd..Byrd In Hand.."here am i"

Bobby Darin.."that's the way love is"..b-side to beyond the sea...and it swings"..always did...

The Deacons w/ Kenny Schopmeyer..Straight Up".."what have i done"..Deacons begin european tour in november

Count Basie..lp Atomic Basie.."silks and satins"

Jimmy Witherspoon..'you aint foolin me"

Lester Young..In Washington D.C. 1956 vol . 4.."db blues"

David "Fathead" Newman..lp Fathead.."title"

Johnny Adams..Walking On A TightRope.."look the whole world over"

David Bixler..Show Me Justice..'tenor envy"(new)

Sonny Clark..Sonnys Crib.."with a song in my heart"

Andy Bey..Shades Of Bey..'midnight blue"

Lizz Wright..Salt.."title"

Ron Carter..The Golden Striker.."on and on"(new)

Chris Connor.."sr. blues"

Horace Silver Quintet..lp Six Pieces Of Si;ver.."sr. blues..June 1958

Arthur Blythe..Exhale.."night train"(new)

Yuseff Lateef..The Gentle Giant.."nubian lady"

Hank Mobely..lp The Turnaround.."title"..February 1965'

Kenny Garrett.."hole in one"

Lou Rawls..At Last.."room w/ a view"

I can sit here, think a thousand miles away.

Memphis Jug Band
"Beale Street Mess Around"


bluz


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: looking for Dallas tix? e-me?


User: t | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: angel - it would take a lot more than ND to come between us... (psst... don't tell snakie... but "I'm a Believer" rocks ;-)

I saw a link for Senior Year when I was looking for the lyrics, but it didn't know what it was...


User: t - retracting/amending | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: After re-reading the lyrics to TATMH, I retract my theory about whose point of view the song is written in. Actually, it seems to me to be a more desperate take on the search for the lost brother/friend (or possibly lover?), but from the same perspective (the searcher) as the first song.


User: Beerberian | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: I worry ... Imagine a guestbook where ...

I know it's a bit both kinds BUT check out THE THORNS ...maybe I'll see tomorrow


User: t - looking for clues... | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: angel - On a show you did? Could you extrapolate? (using that word as much as possible these days...)

btw, snakie and I are worried about you. We're thinking about doing a Neil Diamond intervention...

with l-u-v of course... :-)

I've tried everything to find the original lyrics to "Brother Where Are You?" with no success. Apparently somebody rewrote the lyrics recently, but here are the original lyrics as I hear them:

Brother Where Are You?

"Brother where are you?

Brother where are you?

A small boy walked down a city street
Hope was in his eyes
As he searched the faces of the people he'd meet
For one he could recognize

Brother where are you?
They told me that you came this way
Brother where are you?
They said you came this way

The eyes of the people who pasted him by
As cold and as hard as stone
And the poor boy whimpered and began to cry
Because he was all alone

Brother where are you?
They told me that you came this way
Brother where are you?
They said you came this way

Now there are many who will swear it's true
that brothers are we all
But it seems there are very few
Who will answer a brother's call

Brother where are you?
They told me that you came this way
Brother where are you?
They said you came this way

Oscar Brown Jr. from Mr. Oscar Brown Jr. Goes to Washington, 1964


This All Too Mobile Home

I get four or five miles a gallon in this old car/I don't care as long as it takes me to where you are.
You ain't leavin' no tracks to follow, it's drivin' me mad but what else can I do?
This all too mobile home is calling out for you.

you get thirty miles out of Phoenix on a three-day crying/when you left to find the end on the number five*
you slammed the door behind you/you walked out on the life that we once knew
This all too mobile home is calling out for you.
(instrumental bridge->guitar solo)

well, they say it's only cheating, but now we're man on man/take your hand outta my pocket, don't put it in again.
you get married in San Diego/and these times that walk out need to be brought on through*
This all to mobile home is crawling after you.

(outro)

well, this all too mobile home is killing me/and there's nothing that you can do to set me free.
darling, oh now, darling, come back to me...

Steely Dan 1974 tour, never officially released
lyrics courtesy http://www.angelfire.com/il/babel7/sdrare.html#Home

So it seems the Dan tune might be from the point of view of the "lost" brother, if any of this actually relates. Again, it's the piano vamp that makes the most direct reference to the earlier song.

That all the news I'm fit to print...


User: W1P | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: A Report from Stanley Recordings. I never seen YOU look so down my yellow one. Any Miner world comes together again -- Go UTEP


User: Moll | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: Re: post # 4876 Let's hope your dick will work with Spike Lee. I always figured you were so into mind-fucking women because you were impotent and couldn't do it physically. Maybe you have found your true religion at last..


User: angel | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: Tones: Did a query on Google for that Oscar Brown Jr. tune "Brother where are you?" and found out that the song was on a show we did. Damn, I could have owned that CD, too.... :-(
You can catch a 30 second snippet at amazon, but I don't think it is the beginning, but I think I am catching, what you hear. I can't see that fact alone, stoping Donald and Walter. They always take whatever they use and go somewhere cool. Current fantasy, driving up to San Francisco for a weekend in the (very near) future. Thanks a lot St. Al for putting that ridiculous thought in my head. Then again my little ones favorite place in the world, is looking at the Golden Gate Bridge, so maybe not such a hard sell.... lol


User: Medinet Fes | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: 

Spike Lee,

I will be leaving for Las Vegas on Monday.

Seems I am wanted for a small heist here. It is all a miss understanding. I cut my mattress tag off a couple of weeks ago. Who knew I would become a wanted man?
Geez! Need to blow this town.

Meet you there at the Doobies. We have a better chance of getting free tickets from Tracy and Keith then from SD.

Love,

Medinet Fes


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: Wormy, Zeke: e-me


User: Hey... maybe I'm wrong... | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: ...maybe our own Aja is releasing her debut album next week. In that case it might be pretty good...

Fess up Aj... are you starting a new career?


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: Schwinn, other Texas regulars, guests of Texas,

e-me re: Dallas show tomorrow


User: tones over easy | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: Couple of dan-esque observations:

1) Beware walking into your local cd store (if you're lucky enough to still have one) next week. There's a new band called "Aja" who is releasing a self titled debut, not to be confused with the masterpiece recording of the same name by The Two, or, God forbid, the sound-alike band "Asia" from the early 80's that gave a bad name to prog rock musicians everywhere. No report yet on the potential quality of the band "Aja", though apparently originality isn't one of their strong points...

2) Listening to the new Verve Remixed 2 cd (both volumes are great if you're at all into tasteful electronica remixes of jazz standards - blasphemy in some circles, but it's done well) I came across a song by Oscar Brown Jr. called "Brother Where Are You?", and it has a piano riff in the beginning that reoccurs during the song that sounds almost identical to the opening/reoccuring piano riff on "All Too Mobile Home". I think it's even in the same key. I'm thinking that - a) it is a musical salute and reference to one of their heroes, ala "Rikki..."; b) the theme of ATMH could be the response to the question, "Brother Where Are You?"; and c) that this may be the reason ATMH never got released, considering all the hassle they got for the previous tribute/reference.

After hearing it a few times I think it's too close to be coincidence, imho.

------------------------

JDubs - really sorry to read about your brother. Take care man.

t


User: Frid and Fred | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: Frid and Fred are off to Memphis for ribs at Rendez-vous before the show. We'll be sure to post a set list.


User: Moll the Mistress of Mayhem | Month: 8 | Day: 20

Message: Actual School Excuse Notes


These are excuse notes from parents (with their original spelling) collected by schools from all over the country:

1) My son is under a doctor's care and should not take P.E. today. Please execute him.

2) Please excuse Lisa for being absent. She was sick and I had her shot.

3) Dear School: Please exscuse John being absent on Jan. 28, 29,30, 31, 32, and also 33.

4) Please excuse Gloria from Jim today. She is administrating.

5) Please excuse Roland from P.E. for a few days. Yesterday he fell out of a tree and misplaced his hip.

6) John has been absent because he had two teeth taken out of his face.

7) Carlos was absent yesterday because he was playing football. He was hurt in the growing part.

8) Megan could not come to school today because she has been bothered by very close veins.

9) Chris will not be in school cus he has an acre in his side.

10) Please excuse Ray Friday from school. He has very loose vowels.

11) Please excuse Pedro from being absent yesterday. He had (diahre) (dyrea) (direathe) the runs. [words in ()'s were crossed out.]

12) Please excuse Burma, she has been sick and under the doctor.

13) Irving was absent yesterday because he missed his bust.

14) Please excuse Jimmy for being. It was his father's fault.

15) I kept Billie home because she had to go Christmas shopping because I don't know what size she wears.

16) Please excuse Jennifer for missing school yesterday. We forgot to get the Sunday paper off the porch, and when we found it Monday, we thought it was Sunday.

17) Sally won't be in school a week from Friday. We have to attend her funeral.

18) My daughter was absent yesterday because she was tired. She spent a weekend with the Marines.

19) Please excuse Jason for being absent yesterday. He had a cold and could not breed well.

20) Please excuse Mary for being absent yesterday. She was in bed with gramps.

21) Maryann was absent December 11-16, because she had a fever, sore throat, headache and upset stomach. Her sister was also sick, fever and sore throat, her brother had a low grade fever and ached all over. I wasn't the best either, sore throat and fever. There must be something going around, her father even got hot last night.

22) Please excuse little Jimmy for not being in school yesterday. His father is gone and I could not get him ready because I was in bed with the doctor.


User: male-on-sunday | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: favorite quote 14-10

''you can take away my MP3's when youpry my mouse from my cold dead hands''


User: StAl | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: ATTN DR MU: Urgent message awaiting you at your work email address having to do with the Dallas show. If you're not checking work email this weekend, please send me a message from your home address.

StAl


User: fife | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: Thanks St. Al for pointing it out, it came up with www. lol Hope you enjoyed them.
fife


User: Paige | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: Gotta believe that Neil Geraldo is one of the unsung heroes of "lead" guitar. His work in the early years with Pat Banatar....Hell Is For Children, Promises In The Night...etc. All during a time when disco was threatening to ruin R & R forever, Neil held his ground.

-Paige


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: I'm so STOKED that DAN STILL HAS MAJOR GAME...please don't leave it in the mud of Memphis...

...this in light of sampling Mr. Sting's NEW ONE

I'm a big fan of 1978-1993...and Mercury Falling and Brand New Day have their moments Like A Thousand Years...

...I'm not kidding...SACRED LOVE MAY BE THE WORST PIECE OF SH*T I'VE HEARD IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!!!...in vain have attempted to email a breif note the Jaguar backseat lounger and beg him to cancel release in order to avoid major embarrassment as an artist, but it costs f*ing 40-80 bucks to join his f*ing clubs first!!! ...one would suppose he'll be seen next playing tonsil hockey with Madonna or releasing a children's book soon...

the tripe, the drivel. Somebody who's rust. The Jaguar XT. The castle unbreached...


User: StAl | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: Frid and Fred: Aja is correct. Many of us have been around here since july 23rd...1995. However, don't let that disuade you from jumping and talking up the great time I'm sure you'll have at the show.

I, for one, am really loking forward to seeing Carlock again. Hopefully this time Donald wont be blocking my view...

StAl


User:  | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: am i missing something... or is DACW Doctor ¦ in drag?


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: StAl: from free on-line encyclopedia

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

Documents the The Kosovo airfield incident - this is why I can't support such a loose cannon:

"During the Clinton administration, Gen. Clark tried to prevent Russian forces from occupying an airfield in Kosovo. While attempting to carry out this ordered, Clark was stymied by the refusal of a British commander to commit his troops against Russia, then considered a "non-belligerent power".

According to a BBC profile of the General, at the conclusion of his command in Kosovo, which followed the end of the military campaign, there was an incident involving Russia's use of an airfield in Kosovo. After a token Russian force took control of the Slatina airfield (also called the Pristina airfield) on June 10, 1998, there is said to have been a "battle of wills" between Clark and and the British NATO commander, Lt. Gen. Michael Jackson. Clark ordered British forces to resist Russian troops that occupied the airfield. Jackson did not comply, reportedly later saying: "I'm not going to start the third World War for you."

Clark, in an NPR interview, said that the incident was a surprising moment for him. Clark indicated that his order to block the runways was refused by an emotional Jackson and that he took the matter up the British chain of command. Despite Clark's claims, Jackson could not have obeyed the order without reference to the British Government. Its result would have been to commit British troops to action against a non-belligerent power without the consent of the British Government. That would have been firmly against the British Constitution, and would have resulted in the dismissal of Jackson for gross insubordination. The situation would have analagous to the behaviour of US General of the Army Douglas MacArthur with respect to China, during the Korean War.

Clark stated that General Sir Charles Guthrie, British Chief of the Defence Staff, said that he agreed with Jackson. Guthrie also, according to Clark, told him that Hugh Shelton the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff also agreed with him. Clark remarked that this was very surprising to him since the original suggestion to block the Russians came from Washington. Clark called the Pentagon, looking for support, and was told by Shelton: "We don't want a confrontation, but I do support you". Clark said that he told Shelton: "Then you've got a policy problem". Clark maintained in the NPR interview that the matter was a difference in the perception of the policy between the US administration and the British government. Clark's position is that he was carrying out the suggestions of the administration in Washington. "


User: Hank Silvers | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: 
Liked Dan Moffett's article a lot -- thanks for posting it, Dr. DACW.

I think a more accurate description of "eschatological" would be something having to do with final things. I've also heard it used by religious fundamentalists to refer to the end times, the events to take place in the last period before Christ's return to Earth.

Jaydubz: hoping for the best for your brother. Take care of yourself, too...



User: Aja | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: Because we've been talking about it since July 23.


Aja


User: Frid and Fred | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: Hey everybody, Frid and Fred are getting all geared up for the show in Memphis. Wondering why no one is talking about Steely Dan and all the positivity that should surround the tour.


User: Paige the latest Paige and real one | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: 

Iameez of cape town,

doll I have a reading I must deliver to you girl!

Paige


User: Paige the Real one and Reel one too! | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: 

Walt really does have a diablo on one shoulder speaking in his ear besides the ones residing in his head that is for sure.

I have the flu and feel lousy so be forwarned NO ONE should try and mess with me today!

Paige


User: paige the real one | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: 

W meaning Pecker of course?

P.


User: last thing | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: Pat, It's funny...I sometimes have this image of an angel (Powell) on one of W's shoulders and the devil (Rumsfeld) on the other shoulder whispering in his ears...during the UN phase he swung with Powell...once France and Turkey were not delivered he swung with Rummy...with problems stabilizing Iraq he swung back to Powell...


User:  | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: in Iraq


User: DACW | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: StALl: I would agree that the Bush administration besides Powell is not adept at handling the media, and they've made some mistakes post initial military phase in. However, the military aspects of taking cae

However, by "alienate the figgin' planet in the process?" you mean Kofi, France, Germany, and Russia? - they were in on the food for oil UN/Iraq Shakedown SCAM...and simply had no intention of giving that up. Tony Blair, Italy, all of Eastern Europe, Spain, Italy, Japan, South Korea (who's suddenly back on board once we threatened to withdraw out troops), Afghanistan and the central Asian countries, India, the Pakistani gov't (though no the war lord in western Pakistan, and the Iraqi peope (according to the Zogby poll) and more are on our side!...besides the war on terrorism is not a popularity contest - I see no signs running for 11th Grade President (although many on this board probably feel that's where W belongs)...

Note that the latest rash of terrorism (all of course orchestrated by Arafat) in Israel followed our recent problems in stabilizing Iraq...a sign of weakness has cost us and the peace process...now that things are stabilizing more, notice the the frequency of attacks has dropped...I think when Howard Dean called Hamas "soldiers" that was pretty much the END of his campaign...

Besides lack of clarity by the administration in articulating (as has been done irrefutably by numerous reporters, soldiers, etc.) of the battle with Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups in Iraq both during the initial phase (the US captured and killed many in NO. Iraq and the British fought them alongside the Feyadeen in the Basra area) note: I suggest reading newspaper columns well-known generally left of center and atheist journalist Christopher Hitchens on this - he has a new book out as well...the difference between Hitchens and the NY Times or CNN is that he's brutally *honest* in his rants...Pat, you will enjoy his rant on the Ten Commandments in that Alabama court!

My major problem with W is on the economic side...maybe the economy is on the rebound, maybe not. The tax cuts are a good start, but where's the REST OF THE PLAN??? (I mean besides eliminating terrorists). Clowns like Harvey Pitt(s) and fossils like Jack Snow do not exactly confer great confidence tin the Business community...


That's why I support Lieberman on the Democratic side. He would do the right thing in dealing with the terrorists, and I have confidence he could put together a better domestic/economic team.


User: Paige | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: 

I am really named Paige so stop shoveling horse pucky on me please!

Paige - for reals!


User: tones | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: Hey, aren't I enough? How many friends must I have to begin with to make you laugh? lol...

Btw... what Concord list?


User: StAl | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: I never thought for a moment that person posting with the handle of "Paige" was the *real* Paige.

Mu: regarding the three options. You're correct, and the option that was chosen was the only clear answer if we ultimately want stability in the middle east even though I'm convinced it will never happen.

My problem ALL ALONG was the way in which the Bush administration totally and completely mishandled the situation. How can an administration take what was universal goodwill toward America after the tragic circumstances of 9/11 and alienate the figgin' planet in the process? Now were' saddled with unmentionable debt our grandkids will pay for while the same administration has dug a hole so deep it can't get out.

BUT WAIT! Why in the world would the world want to help those jackasses in Washington?

So, coupled with their complete fuck-up on Iraq, add Ashcroft, The Patriot Act, Kyoto, environmental, economic and social boondoggles and you have the most ineffective (and destructive) presidential administration since Hoover. Ok, maybe Carter but at least he got Israel and Egypt to sit down...

On a lighter note. Concord is a go for me if I can overcome one last hurdle. Besides Tones, anyone else going? I'll be signing up for the Concord mailist next...

StAl


User: Rajah of Erase | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: Paige - my apologies on behalf of the jerk who made you feel horrible. Thanks for coming back, most of the folks here are not using this forum to act out and lash out at people. Let's not let them spoil it for the rest of.


User: Paige | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: Please do not use MY name on your posts. It is one thing to be an "anon" and quite another to use someone elses name when you post...giving them words that they never said.

I left the GB and the chatrooms here for a while because of some jerkwad who made me feel horrible and unwelcomed. It appears that there is at least one more jerkwad here that lacks integrity. I come here in "good faith" because of my love for Steely Dan. No more and no less.

-Paige


User: Robert Zimmerman | Month: 8 | Day: 19

Message: accdrnig to rseacerh at an Elings