I love the Walter Becker song, "Hard Up Case." Hey, I've been there. (laughing) Hey, I think I'm still there.... We've talked about other rock groups and writers that we like. I must admit I've been an over-the-top Steely Dan fan and I've been an over-the-top Thomas Pynchon fan. I read some William Burroughs just because I like Steely Dan so much. My husband liked "Cities of the Red Night", but he has wierd taste. He likes Raymond Chandler novels and old horror movies, too. It seems to me that Steely Dan is more Pynchon-ist than like William Burroughs. But I'm really thinking about Patti Smith. Somewhere earlier someone asked about our sexual experiences with Steely Dan. I've never had any sexual experience remotely connected to their music. But one of the most fun nights I can recall was an impromptu 2:00 am dance party to Patti Smith records. And I think the highest sexual praise I've ever recieved was from a former lover who said, "Karen IS Gloria." - and he was talking about the Patti Smith Gloria, not the Van Morrison version.
This may be kind of a stretch, but something about Patti Smith reminds me of Steely Dan. I think it is the lyrics. I was especially thinking about this while listening to Mr. Becker's new CD. He has some parts where he gets into this stream of consciousness rap that reminds me of her.
I'll tell you about my "Layla" sexual experience some other time. That was one hot night.....
I love the Walter Becker song, "Hard Up Case." Hey, I've been there. (laughing) Hey, I think I'm still there.... We've talked about other rock groups and writers that we like. I must admit I've been an over-the-top Steely Dan fan and I've been an over-the-top Thomas Pynchon fan. I read some William Burroughs just because I like Steely Dan so much. My husband liked "Cities of the Red Night", but he has wierd taste. He likes Raymond Chandler novels and old horror movies, too. It seems to me that Steely Dan is more Pynchon-ist than like William Burroughs. But I'm really thinking about Patti Smith. Somewhere earlier someone asked about our sexual experiences with Steely Dan. I've never had any sexual experience remotely connected to their music. But one of the most fun nights I can recall was an impromptu 2:00 am dance party to Patti Smith records. And I think the highest sexual praise I've ever recieved was from a former lover who said, "Karen IS Gloria." - and he was talking about the Patti Smith Gloria, not the Van Morrison version.
This may be kind of a stretch, but something about Patti Smith reminds me of Steely Dan. I think it is the lyrics. I was especially thinking about this while listening to Mr. Becker's new CD. He has some parts where he gets into this stream of consciousness rap that reminds me of her.
I'll tell you about my "Layla" sexual experience some other time. That was one hot night.....
oh shut up
Itīs hot today.
I have fan that cools me off in this office. She is also a Steely Dan-fan.
"In case your wondering itīs alive and well / that little habbit that you left with me / here in the surburbs where itīs hard to tell / fa got the bear or if the bear got me /"
See, Walter rhymes me with me. Thatīs worse I think.
Godday ol lads, C
luckless ambulator: It was me who mentioned Boat Quay. ever been to one of those Karaoke bars and heard the Greatest Love of All sung by a Straits Born Malaysian. One of the funniest things you could ever here. Yeah, the bar I hang out at is called Tomorrows. has a good clientel.
Yo Columbia: roll on roll off. Shag away!!!!!!!!!!
Goodbye
Pretzels and low music
I see I made a mistake. Warner Brothers isnt SD's record company, Giant is. Irving Azoff. They say "Sometimes Irving seems like a good guy and sometimes he seems like a bad guy. We can't figure Irving out. We think Irving is having a nervous breakdown." But I'm kind of sympathetic to Mr. Azoff for two reasons: (1) Mr. Azoff has suffered some terror in his life. It's public knowledge that MCA hired two bodyguards to guard him. What's not public knowledge is that Mr. Azoff was terrified of his bodyguards and afraid they were going to kill him. I've suffered some terror in my life too, but it had nothing to do with the music business. My friends say "If The Queen of Spain had to get in trouble with the Mafia, I'm glad her friends in the music business didn't get her into it. We've always tried to protect The Queen of Spain. " It got bad enough that I kept two German shepherds in my house at all times, wouldn't let my children sit in the car while I started it, and bought an Uzi because a machine gun is the only way to protect yourself against a group of men. One day me and my friends were saying that we needed to start an anti-Mafia Mafia. Like Sean Connery said in the Untouchables, "If you take out one of ours, we'll take out one of yours." My friends said "They would take out The Queen of Spain first. She's the sharpshooter in the bunch." A friend of mine in the Mafia came up with a creative and hilarious way to keep me alive. He said "Instead of killing The Queen of Spain, they ought to force her to work for us as a hitman. The Queen of Spain would be a perfect hitman. A pretty little girl with no criminal record. Nobody would ever suspect her." & This was before La Femme Nikita came out. But I'm happy to say nobody ever touched a hair on my head and I'm hoping the whole thing has blown over. But I have a lot of sympathy with anyone who has ever been afraid like that. And (2) Irving Azoff did leak the list of radio stations that required payola to the Wall St. Journal. If the Feds hadn't been so clueless, they could have used that as a road map for a prosecution. What the Feds really should have done was get Billboard magazines from 1981 during the Warner boycott and just looked at the playlist in the back and gone after the stations that really did black out Warner Records. So I guess Irving Azoff isn't all bad.
Correct me if I'm wrong, and unfortunately I can't find my Gaucho liner notes to check it out, but did Patti Smith not sing back up on a few tracks? Someone please confirm that. Regarding the anticipated new effort by F & B, what's the rush to know? We had to wait 12 long years in between DF's solo efforts, and it's been 18 years since Gaucho. Another 6-8 months is a bean in the soup, time wise. KQ, would you be impressed, if during an intimate dinner, the one you were with asked you to dance when the opening bars of "Maxine" drifted from the speakers, and swept you away? Or would it be have to be something that kick started your heart rate, and threw you into a high tempo frenzy? I'm just curious.
Patti Smith?
Uh, no.
Edd
Itīs hot today.
AJA and OLEANDER; Wich of Pynchon should I start with? In the beginning or in the end?
AJA; thanks for emails, have a little patience, Iīll be with you soon. (25-30 C)
"What would this land be without the great nation of ours?" R. R.
Soulbrother, C
Wow, St. AL - This shade of blue reminds me of Miami. Much improved over that pea green.
Sex and Steely Dan, wow, what a combination. I'm trying to remember the last time I had sex... oh, too long ago. Sigh! Actually one of the reasons I love listening to SD is because It doesn't remind of my terrible love life. Although, I think that Aja (the single) is a perfect song for forplay.
Clas- "In that sunny room she soothes"... you
Aja
Maggi: Auf Wiedersehn!
Aja: Can't guess your fav. author. Will talk about mine then: (in no particular order) Heinlein, Ursula K. Le Guin, Hermann Hesse, Robert Ludlum, Castaneda, whatshisname who wrote Monkey Wrench Gang, Tony Hillerman beneath others. Not Burroughs though. I fought my way through Naked Lunch last year and didn't like it.
Clas: Now where the hell am I?
Mr Stewart: I hope I'll be doing some more soon. Wait until they come 'round again.
Some of you Jazz folks in the US probably missed it: One of my favorite duos had a couple of shows over there in August: Tab Two, the Hip Jazz thang! (take a look at http://www.look.de/tabtwo).
As for the recent Top 40 discussion: I also was impressed by the high position of Sarah McLachlan! I know her music and some more of the artists on the label she's signed (Nettwerk: www.nettwerk.com) and appreciate it. But I'm quite convinced our fab two won't compromise any of their musical ideas to get into a top 10 slot between Backstreet Boyz and Spice Girlz. I'd kinda like them there, though.
I got a vacation trivia question for you: I've just come back from a sunny island where my greatest pleasure was the smooth retsina - NOT! - and my discman with the 4 CDs I had brought along. The first two of these 4 are cheap to guess: they are the ones where you have a guy exclaim "what a night!". Then there's one with a certain reference to Dylan ("wanna buy some mandies, Bob?"). And finally, there's the one with a young Louis Armstrong shortly appearing in one song. Take your chance.
Princess Diana and Dolly Parton die on the same day, and they > both go before St. Peter to find out if they'll be admitted to heaven. > Unfortunately, there's only one space left that day, so St. Peter must > decide which of them gets in. > > St. Peter asks Dolly if there's some particular reason why she > should go to heaven, so she takes off her top and says, "Look at > these. They're the most perfect ones God ever created, and I'm sure > it will please him to be able to see them every day for eternity." > > St. Peter thanks Dolly, and asks Diana the same question. > Diana drops her skirt and panties, takes a bottle of Perrier out of > her purse, shakes it up, and douches with it. > > St. Peter says, "OK, Diana, you may go in. Have a nice day." > Dolly is outraged. She screams, "What was that all about? I show you > two of God's own creations, she performs a disgusting, pornographic > act, and she gets in and I don't?!!!" > > "Sorry, Dolly, but a royal flush beats a pair any day."
.......is there no taste left in the world?????........
St. Al, please purge your page
thanx,
ygk
Important safety tip to those using Steely Dan music for romantic seduction purposes: If you're using BODHISATTVA as a prelude to lovemaking (ie: countdown to ecstacy), be sure to gear down to BLACK COW before Stage 3 begins, lest you suffer severe spinal damage.
There's a no no twisting like a slow slow twisting with you, RS
WHAAA? I did NOT multi-post!! So sorry all that room's taken up with my rants, which barely deserve the space they occupy once.
Ruby, wherever you are--Danmoment of the day: a Muzak version of "Pretzel Logic" in the baby supplies aisle at the grocery store.
O once over &out
Roy: NOW YOU TELL ME! *sigh* Oh well, next time I know to be more careful...
Oleander, SFK: Rolling...*grin*...on and on and on...
Seriously, everyone, thanks for the music appreciation lessons/SD tips. I heard a bit of what I've been missing, and look forward to hearing more.
C
Columbia: You didn't get hurt or anything did you?
That would truly be a Steely Dan Tragedy.....
YGK:
I'm a little tired, but otherwise better than ever. *grin* No blood, no foul. I only hope this one doesn't break my heart. Now *that* would be a tragedy...
C
"Some kids just drive too fast"
Oleander: Edward Abbey wrote Monkey Wrench Gang. I just finished with his post-humous book Confessions of a Barbarian...Excellent. I had to laugh when I read: "What's-his-name who wrote Monkey Wrench." Near the end of his life in Confessions he states that he's fed up with being America's most famous unkown author. Oh, and I wrote each word I misspelled in the last post 20 times.
First day of school. 29 cute kids...A real shame we cram so many of them together in one tiny room. It went better than expected.
Anyone else heard of St. Jon's Wort, the herbal Prozac? Well, not as strong as Prozac I'm sure.
Re: St. John's Wort: After using many Western medicines unsatisfactorily for many years, and since I believe that a true medical cure should have zero side effects, I'm currently experimenting with homeopathy. Does anyone out there have a handle on this? Is it just a bunch of crap or what?
Karen Q: how bout that 'Layla' experience?
lp
...Lonnie swept the playroom, and he swallowed up all he found. It was 48 hours til Lonnie came around...
Well, the reason I ask about St. Jon's Wort is I've been on it for about 6 weeks (that and Ginkgo Phytosome) and I must say they seem to be somewhat of a mood/energy elevator with seemingly no side effect. I'm also an advocate of other alternative remedies such as melatonin for sleep (like a baby) and echinacea/goldenseal to ward of colds. They do work.
Well there is one side effect of St. Jon's Wort: Your skin becomes very sensitive to intense sun. But apperently this passes the longer you take the medicine. The true test of its effectiveness will be the Winter darkness up here. We have other remedies that help deal with that, though. Skiing, for example. Sex? No, no, there's not much in the way of sex in Anchorage it seems...though that'd help too. Other things that don't necessarily meet the Good Housekeeping seal of approval, like crushed papya leaves, are good to keep on hand.
Mr. Stewart
I guess in Germany St. Jon's Wort has been used as an anti-depressant for a long time. German psychiatrists aren't so thrilled about Prozac, Zoloft etc.
Hello, nice site. Keep the faith!
Oh no, I feel a diatribe coming on....
Mr. Stew--It is a crime & a shame to have so many kids in one class. Do you have an aide? My son just started 4th grade; he had 11 kids in his class, and after 2 weeks the school system transferred his teacher, saying that no class could be allowed to be that small. They should ALL be small!!
Fooled you--Here comes the diatribe. (Steely tie-in--"are you with me, doctor?") Since I'm a doctor, you might expect me to have opinions about various kinds of health care. You would be right; scroller alert. It's a truism now that allopathic (western) medicine is great at trauma, surgery, and nuking infectious agents, but not much else. I think herbal medicine works very well in places, more subtly than western medicine. It & other forms of complementary medicine seem way better at awaking & arming the immune system. I have a lot of trouble, though, with manufacturers who hawk various things--DHEA, melatonin, ginkgo biloba, etc.--as miracle cures or fountains of youth. These things have NOT been rigorously tested, since they're not regulated by the FDA, and not only might they have significant side effects, they might be completely valueless and an outright scam. (For example, several years back L-tryptophan, an amino acid, was widely used as a sleep aid. But a number of people came down with a weird illness--EMS--from tainted batches of it, and some of them died.) St. John's wort has been used a lot in Europe, but I don't know of any controlled studies. (Maybe you have seasonal affective disorder? Dark a lot up there, isn't it?) LP--I don't think that there can be any such thing as a side-effectless therapy; just depends on how you define side effect. I know a lot of people who have been helped by homeopathy, though I'm jiggered if I know how it works. I do think Chinese medicine and acupuncture are clearly beneficial; they have not only been studied shoulder-to-shoulder with western med. but have 2, 000+ years of empirical research to support them.
The trouble--oh, all right, one of the troubles--with research budgets is that they never include funding for controlled, double-blind studies of complementary therapies, in comparison with western medicine or each other. Such studies condense many decades of empirical research into more manageable periods of time. There is an Office of Alternative Health at NIH, but I never hear anything about them.
I think it's really hard to decide which form of medicine/health care to go for. Probably the one whose paradigm you feel most comfortable with, and whose practitioner you really trust. Just watch out for fanatics and charlatans. Ultimately, I believe we all heal ourselves, but don't know how to do it at will; the different forms of therapy are just metaphors which enable us to tap into our incipient healing capacity. I hope I live long enough to see us figure that out.
PS--Abbey! Been wanting to check him out.
Geo--Our lists overlap a lot. I somehow forgot to include Margaret Atwood and Borges. Is this an INFP thing? Have you read "A Confederacy of Dunces" by John Kennedy Toole? Clas actually brought it up some months ago. I just reread it, and it's terrific, hilarious, and unique. Steely tie-in--if you can read it without humming "Pearl of the Quarter" at least once, you're no Danfan.
Sweet tryptophanless dreams
George; Germany. I hope.
There was a weird thing last night that happened. Me and my wife stayed up late and watching this TV-channel Hallmark. Itīs mostly TV-movies from 80s and early 90s. Perfect sleepingpills. Lena, my wife, is that kind that HAVE to see the end of a movie even if she knows how the end will be. Well, I was tired, bored and kissed her goodnight and went to bed.
I woke up halfsleeping in the middle of the night and noticed that she was with me in bed. I gave her that sleepy kiss we good men do at nights and noticed that something was defini wrong. Her LIPS! I fumbeled over her head, her hair was gone! And those big floppy ears! Halfdreaming I turned around and thought that must have been a real horrormovie on Hallmark that night.
When I woke up my dog was lying with his head on my shoulder. Sleeping like a baby.
I went up, made some coffee and woke up the real thing that was sleeping on the sofa with the TV on. Then I went to the bathroom and brushed my teeth for ten minutes.
AJA and OLEANDER; Wich of Pynchon should I start with? In the beginning or in the end?
Iīve been stumbling around all morning now and I have finally found the perfect restaurant-name "Anthonys Bar and Grill"!
Clas, out on the leftwing.
Clas- I am ashamed to admit I have yet to read any of Pynchon's work. I was at the library a few weeks ago and couldn't find one copy of V, which I intend to start with (unless I get a better suggestion).
George- I have given more clues to Clas but I finally gave up on anyone guessing. He is Jonathan Carroll. He is an American ex-patriate living in Vienna and working as a school teacher and occassional script doctor. If you want to read his novels I suggest starting with "Land of Laughs". Although if your more of a short story person try "The Panic Hand" (which I believe was published in German before English as "Die Panische Hand").
Re: herbs and other alternative forms of medicine- you have to remember nothing is a cure-all and there are quacks everywhere. That does not mean that both western medicine and the more "eastern" philosophies don't have their place. I hope that in the next fews years to decades we will have a synthesis of ideas and practices. I personally try to use herbs to stem any bugs and stuff as much as possible but I still had to have sinus surgery.
I swear by copious amounts of hot echinacea tea for cold symptoms (and maybe a little horehound and goldenseal for congestion). The problem with most herbs in getting just enough without getting too much (some like goldenseal and are toxic at certain levels). Just like an Rx you need the correct dosage level for it to be most effective, or if you don't need it, it may not have any effect. I also try to take spirulina for energy each day. And with the wonders it has done for my mother's eye sight, I figure I ought to try eyebright.
Luckless - Hope your luck changes. Do your home work and, if you can afford it, find a doctor that is like minded and you feel comfortable with.
Any one else know their MBTI? I used to score those things for hours at work. I swing between an INTJ and an INFJ (I'm a little more "T" in my work/studies and "F" in my private life).
Oleander, isn't tryptophan that stuff in turkey that makes you sleepy? Or have I got it all wrong?
Aja
Does anybody out there know what the people in the background are saying on "King of the World"?
Love to know, Aja
Oleander: Pretty hip for an allopathic doctor. I define a side effect as a negative and undesirable effect of a medication that, when taken for one ailment, creates a different set of symptoms or a new ailment. For instance, aspirin has been hailed as a 'wonder drug' but then kids who take it can get the potentially fatal Reye's syndrome, or take chemotherapy--what the hell kind of 'cure' is that?, and so on.
What I can't figure out is that if homeopathy was discovered in the early 1800s by the German doctor Samuel Hahnemann, why hasn't there been, up to this day, any conclusive scientific evidence/tests to support or debunk this system of medicine? The law of the similars is a cool concept though. It's got the right dynamic for the new frontier (21st century medicine). Homeopathy as I understand it is a whole approach to healing that precisely maximizes the ability of the body to heal itself. I've noticed a growing global trend of people becoming disillusioned with allopathic medicine and seeking other 'less scientific' alternatives, so I think the time is coming when we will get more and more into natural methods and eventually be able to actually heal ourselves (and believe me, I'm no idealist hippie alternative lifestyler), in spite of the protestations of 20th century science and the billion-dollar synthetic pharmaceutical industry.
Well, my five and a half month old daughter has opened here own web page.
Not quitein the league of what we are used to but you may wish to check it out. She has promised to build loads more stuff over over the next few days between baths, sleep and meal times.
She wanted to know if some of you guys would email her to let her know what extra things she could include.
Click and your away:
RE: Using Steely Dan music for seduction--What I meant to say yesterday before an apparent carpal-keyboard spasm was that if you use BODHISATTVA as a countdown to ecstacy, be sure to slow down to BLACK COW tempo before the ecstacy commences, lest spinal damage occur (not to mention velocity induced inadequacy).
Columbia: If you injured yourself, try some of that geiko balboa that Oleander-san was touting.
Perhaps the best SD seduction songs are the ones that are actually about seduction, such as ROSE DARLING and NEW FRONTIER. In NEW FRONTIER, young Donald is convincing his big blonde Tuesday Weld lookalike companion to pretend it's the real thing and spend the night in Dad's fallout shelter. If you've seen the video, you'll remember that our hero succeeds in luring Tuesday (who probably later became Maxine) into the dugout, but he falls asleep. When he wakes up the next morning, he rushes out of the shelter and the first thing he sees is men in flack suits. Did the reds push the button down? I don't want to spoil the ending.
Oleander: Gingko Biloba, wasn't he the bongo player for Ricky Ricardo's band?
And an herbal, punctured, Sexy Sadie Maharishi healing to all, RS
SFK: Chloe's a Beauty. That picture looks like she's engaged in one of those celebratory belly slides that soccer (O.K. football) players perform after scoring a goal. With a last name like Baker, I presume she's a Rafferty fan also.
RS
Oleander: Gingko Biloba was Rocky Balboa's dyslexic brother......
BTW: Roxanne - the one and only (and no she wasn't named for the song!) - my goddaughter starts the Big K tomorrow, and is psyched - she told everyone down the street, "I'm going to SCHOOL"!
I've got to get her a Class of 2014 Sweatshirt from one of NYC's fine institutions: NYU, Colombia, or hey, why not Bard?!? or Barnard....
send your ideas too......
What's this shit about COLUMBIA. I hope it is a reference to the fucking university and not the South American country. Stupid morons.
I'm so fucking bored. Please make suggestions of GOOD new music (+- 3 years). Your help in this matter will be truly appreciated and I promise I will give shit to no one that shares sincerely.
Politically correct version for the lingopragmatics challenged.
What's this about COLUMBIA. I hope it is a reference to the university rather than the South American country (COLOMBIA). Illiterate barbarians.
I'm so very very bored. Please make suggestions at your earliest convinience of GOOD new music (+- 3 years). Your help in this matter will be truly appreciated and I promise I will give hardship to no one that shares sincerely.
Chat anyone?
Found a service that licenses a Java based chat program. Any web browser that supports Java is capable of using it. They were kind enough to provide us with a chat room -- #Sign_in_Stranger.
Over the next couple of days I'll be writing a new page for this very purpose. My question has to do with scheduled times. Last time there was a SD chat vehicle, we scheduled chat every Sunday night at 7:00pm PST. Many of you east coast types complained. I'm thinking we should schedule for multiple times during the day, every day. This way we can be sure to include our brothers and sisters abroad. You never know when you'll be online, right?
How about 9:00am PST, 5:00pm PST and 8:00pm PST
Any other suggestions, Clas, SanFran?
Ole: As usual I agree with your take on the whole wholistic thang. I think you're on to something about treating the symptom and not the problem with Mr Stewart. I've been telling him for a year he needs to move back to a more climate friendly place. Besides, papaya shavings in Alaska? Can they actually grow through the permafrost? snicker
Peace StAl
DirecTV version (my favorite)
COLUMBIA: No doubt you are one stupip fucking illiterare american redneck from the deep woods.
I'm so very fucking bored but I don't need your help. I doubt any of you fuckheads has any fucking information that would matter to me, anyway. So go fuck yourselves.
StAl. Cool idea, Ohh Great One. But if you want to cater to internationals use GMT.
Clas=Gaucho=Aja: Take a fucking chill pill, okay?
Do I really want to chat with these people?
Curious that one who chooses to go by the alias Gaucho would express such disdain for South America. Do you always advertise your bouts with self-hatred? If so, you might reconsider this policy. I've always been under the impression that boredom is a state of being open only to those who are themselves boring.
As it happens, I have never had the pleasure of visiting Columbia, the country, but I do tread on Columbia University's campus most days. As such, I would be delighted to provide a CU sweatshirt for your god-daughter, YGK...Roxanne, right? I take special pleasure in encouraging youngsters to pursue their academic dreams... and we could use a few more women in the academy.
As for new music, it depends on how you measure "good" doesn't it? Liz Phair and Poe might be right up your alley, Gaucho: plenty of bitterness and cynicism, plus the lyrics demonstrate adept handling of a vocabulary with which you seem to have a passing familiarity.
Stepping over the mud puddle, Columbia
** Politically correct version for the lingopragmatics challenged. **
Prince Chorizo: I am stupefied at the dismal powers of deduction you display. What does your eolithic cranium hold that we can only hope to attain after aeons of devolution ? Linguini ?
** DirecTV version (my favorite) **
Prince Chorizo: Boy you are another one of those stupid fucking illiterare american redneck from the deep woods who roams this place. Why don't you go fuck yourself with that whisky bottle you use as a pillow.
** Politically correct version for the lingopragmatics challenged. **
Columbia: You can read and yet it seems that you cannot understand. Maybe with some Coke ?
** DirecTV version (my favorite) **
Columbia: Girl you are another one of those stupid fucking illiterare american redneck from the deep woods who roams this place. Its COLOMBIA you stupid bitch.
I've been away, and this was the first chance I had to post something about Maggi McCoy, who was a dear friend to me.
Hi everybody.
Gaucho--Could you go and spray your bile elsewhere, you pathetic little piece of fuck? Pretty please? ?@
Peace,
Rabbit
i have a request of all of you guestbookers... if you had to narrow it down to 2 or 3 steely dan songs for a new listener, what would they be? let me know here or by email.... i appreciate the help, in advance.
amanda
Pete- thanks for sharing. Looks like more people here could use a friend like Maggi.
Aja
Pete- Thanks for sharing. The world could use a lot more people like Maggi.
Aja
AMANDA; Rosie, Lives In the Balance and Shaky Town. If you could stretch it to four songs, add; My Personal Revenge.
(I hope she is better now, my syntax)
StALPHONZO; do you mean that I am invited? I canīt believe it. Well, letīs say 3 PM, my time. That would be 2 PM San Fran time.
RABBIT; "Gaucho--Could you go and spray your bile elsewhere, you pathetic little piece of fuck? Pretty please? ?@ ."
How can you say Peace after a line like that?
Peace, Clas
re: Da (You're asking us?)
Anyhow...
"Deacon Blues"
"King Of The World"
"Doctor Wu"
Honorable Mention: "Daddy Don't Live..."
Edd
StAl: I like all of the times you suggested for scheduled chats. I used to really enjoy those Sunday night chats.
I was starting to question this whole chat thing until you posted, Peg. Thought I was gonna have to talk to morons..
Here is work in progress. Let me know if it crashes your browser:
I'll attempt to finish the body of the page later this week.
StAl
StAl; it seems to work for me that link. Would you please tell me how you do when you chat? Codes and time and so on. I donīt want to miss this!
Your best friend Clas
(I love Greatful Dead too) (did I tell you that Jackson Browne sucks?)
the chat page looks ok from here StAl, although a little mis-drawn in places. I was delighted to see an IGNORE option! You all know what this means, don't you? You can highlight someone's name in the list, hit the IGNORE button, and whatever they type no longer shows up in your window!! Can you see in now, dansters?! Can you imagine what would drive some morons more crazy than to be literally, physically IGNORED and RENDERED INVISIBLE AND MUTE by a whole roomfull of people? Can you imagine these mornons screaming away on their keyboards, spouting bile and nonsense, and NO BODY EVEN SEEING WHAT THEY TYPE?!!
Now THIS is going to be FUN!!!
Wow, that was easy! I just chatted to myself for a few minutes. I'll be back at 9am.
Hmmmmm, further improvements have been made to the Steely Baby Site
thanks to you guys who sent messages. Steely Baby does need some more ideas as to what cool things to include though!!!!
Keep 'em coming!!!
Laters
YGK: Rocky Balboa's dislexic brother? Didn't he go by the nickname "The Stallion Italian" and have a dog named Kiss-butt? (His original nickname was the Maylasian Stallion, but he was looking at the map backwards.)
Gaucho: If you're indeed serious about recent music, then accept my offer of assistance and check out Ben Fold's Five (both albums). Ben F. is like an energetic Fagen.
Amanda: MY OLD SCHOOL, BLACK COW, BAD SNEAKERS. [Even a new listener has probably heard Peg, Rikki, and Hey 19 a few dozen times.]
These are my belated nominations for worst possible covers: MAXINE by Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash (a la their Girl From the North Country duet); BARRYTOWN by Leonard Cohen and Roberta Flack; TOMORROW'S GIRLS by Willie Nelson and Julio Iglesias (...not my Consuela, not my Tanya Sue...).
Adrian Yo, RS
Help! My Netscape is not Java enabled! Any ideas? Must I ftp the file from the Starbucks' web.site?
Amanda: Dr. Wu, Your Gold Teeth II, and Home at Last (especially Live)
RS: Tel me more about Ben Folds Five and the Fagen connection. I caught 15 sec of a song on the radio a few weeks ago and really liked it. Aren't they from North Carolina?
I haven't checked out the chat site yet in case I crash or I get cut off line. [I have spent at least 25 hours since Friday on the phone with AOL, my computer manufacturer, the phone company, etc. ad nausem, I am about ready to string someone up by a very tender body part. Oh that felt good to vent. And now back to regularly scheduled program...]
I look forward to being able to chat. Mr. Whatever- Right on, brather! If it good to ya- it gotta be good for ya.
Gaucho- (Disclaimer- the following information comes from a non-musician, I make no claims that it is good music, but merely music I have enjoyed listening to.) Check out Natalie Merchant's "Tigerlily" and Lisa Loeb's "Tails". And since you said recent music (+-3 years (implying the past 3yrs or the next 3yrs), I'd have to say "Jack of Speed" (??-aka- Countdown To Ecsatsy II) by Steely Dan due out (??) September 1998.
Sincerely, Aja
I haven't checked out the chat site yet in case I crash or I get cut off line. [I have spent at least 25 hours since Friday on the phone with AOL, my computer manufacturer, the phone company, etc. ad nausem, I am about ready to string someone up by a very tender body part. Oh that felt good to vent. And now back to regularly scheduled program...]
I look forward to being able to chat. Mr. Whatever- Right on, brather! If it good to ya- it gotta be good for ya.
Gaucho- (Disclaimer- the following information comes from a non-musician, I make no claims that it is good music, but merely music I have enjoyed listening to.) Check out Natalie Merchant's "Tigerlily" and Lisa Loeb's "Tails". And since you said recent music (+-3 years (implying the past 3yrs or the next 3yrs), I'd have to say "Jack of Speed" (??-aka- Countdown To Ecsatsy II) by Steely Dan due out (??) September 1998.
Sincerely, Aja
That double post is because I reloaded on the Thank you page, instead of backing up to the guest book first. Sorry, I've been really tense the past few days and this crap with my computer is driving me insane. I have a bad modem and have trouble getting online or staying online, my modem is going to be replaced-next week. And as if that's not bad enough - i just got a message that says my browser is not JAVA enabled! AND IT SHOULD BE!
Could somebody try and e-mail (I say try because I may not be able to get it with this modem) me a *good* joke? I *really* need a good laugh.
Aja
Amanda: Today I'd say: Any Major Dude, Monkey In Your Soul, Babylon Sisters...
Stal: Now that's cool...think I'll go fo another dip...
Just missed you, Peg...was out feeding the cows...
mW
Did you know about this, from the ParaChat FAQ? This may explain why I can't seem to connect. Major Bummer! Netscape + Mac is a rather popular combo if you know what I mean...
" I am using a MAC and cannot connect to ParaChat. Why?
There are known problems with Netscape's implementation of Java and we are working with Netscape to see if we can work around those bugs. So currently ParaChat will not work for Mac users using Netscape."
AJA: if you are using Internet Explorer, try opening your preferences, and select the "Web Content" tab. Make sure the "Java" box is checked. That's all I can think of right now
Hey, I just tried out that chat. Pretty nice, except that noone was there but me. I suppose I'll have to try back at one of the "officially scheduled times", but that's going to be tough for me. Where's Clean Willy when I need him?
Uh Oh: Damn, I hate it when Mr. Gates has me cornered.
right on Dr Mu, my sentiments exactly. I've long suspected that StAl was in on the scheme and this about seals it in my mind.
And then there is the other 75% of the web browsing audience using PC's. I'm sure they'll fix it soon. Until then, you can always try IE. Like I said, this was a free and simple solution.
There is a saying that's been around for a long time: "Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.
Apple made a bad move a LONG time ago. Now they follow...
Let the flames begin StAl
Couldn't access yak-yak-yak room with Netscape 3.01. Java was enabled but something didn't believe it.
Edd
Mr Edd, the FAQ on the ParaChat page is informative about what works and what doesn't -- Mac + netscape is no good, IE 4.0 is probably no good, certain brands of Java better than others, etc. They have some pointers for fixes and workarounds in some cases that might be of some help.
Subject:
AudioNet Newsletter
Date:
Thu, 4 Sep 1997 20:01:14 -0500
From:
AudioNet Newsletter AudioNet Newsletter
September 5, 1997 - September 8, 1997
http://www.audionet.com/
+ All times Central Standard Time +
++++++++++++++++++++
TABLE OF CONTENTS
1. SPECIAL NEWS COVERAGE - Live Coverage of Princess Diana's Funeral
2. AUTO RACING - CART Toyota Grand Prix of Monterey
3. MUSIC - Steely Dan "In the Studio"
4. SPORTS - AudioNet College Football Network - Play Continues
5. SPECIAL INTEREST - Fitness Guru Tony Little on The Janice Malone Show
6. BUSINESS & POLITICS - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
7. ALWAYS ON AUDIONET - "The Bobby Fuller Four" in the CD Jukebox
Steely Dan - join the rock and roll legends "In the Studio" with Q102 DJ
Redbeard for two hours of music and memories from Q102, Dallas.
http://www.audionet.com/radio/alternative/ktxq/
Mr Whatever; yeah, the ignorebutton.
Chat, baby!! I'm gonna get fired!!
majĐ
Blues by the rules, courtesy of a writer/editor/musician friend in
Washington, D.C.
1. Most blues begin "woke up this morning."
2. "I got a good woman" is a bad way to begin the blues, unless you
stick something nasty in the next line.
I got a good woman-- with the meanest dog in town.
3. Blues are simple. After you have the first line right, repeat it.
Then find something that rhymes. Sort of.
Got a good woman
with the meanest dog in town.
He got teeth like Margaret Thatcher
and he weighs about 500 pounds.
4. The blues are not about limitless choice.
5. Blues cars are Chevies and Cadillacs. Other acceptable blues
transportation is Greyhound bus or a southbound train.
Walkin' plays a major part in the blues lifestyle. So does fixin' to
die.
6. Teenagers can't sing the blues. Adults sing the blues.
Blues adulthood means old enough to get the electric chair if you shoot
a man in Memphis.
7. You can have the blues in New York City, but not in Brooklyn
or Queens.
Hard times in Vermont or North Dakota are just a depression. Chicago,
St. Louis and Kansas City are still the best places to have the blues.
8. The following colors do not belong in the blues:
a. violet
b. beige
c. mauve
9. You can't have the blues in an office or a shopping mall; the
lighting is wrong.
10. Good places for the Blues:
a. the highway
b. the jailhouse
c. the empty bed
Bad places:
a. Ashrams
b. Gallery openings
c. weekends in the Hamptons
11. No one will believe it's the blues if you wear a suit, unless you
happen to be an old black man.
12. Do you have the right to sing the blues?
Yes, if:
a. your first name is a southern state--like Georgia.
b. you're blind.
c. you shot a man in Memphis.
d. you can't be satisfied.
No, if:
a. you were once blind but now can see.
b. you're deaf.
c. you have a trust fund.
13. Neither Julio Iglesias nor Barbra Streisand can sing the blues.
14. If you ask for water and baby gives you gasoline, it's the blues.
Other blues beverages are:
a. wine
b. Irish whiskey
c. muddy water
Blues beverages are NOT:
a. Any mixed drink
b. Any wine kosher for Passover
c. Yoo Hoo (all flavors)
15. If it occurs in a cheap motel or a shotgun shack, it's blues death.
Stabbed in the back by a jealous lover is a blues way to die. So is
the electric chair, substance abuse, or being denied treatment in an
emergency room. It is not a blues death, if you die during a liposuction
treatment.
16. Some Blues names for Women
a. Sadie
b. Big Mama
c. Bessie
17. Some Blues Names for Men
a. Joe
b. Willie
c. Little Willie
d. Lightning
Persons with names like Sierra or Sequoia will not be permitted to sing
the blues no matter how many men they shoot in Memphis.
17B. Other Blues Names (Starter Kit)
a. Name of Physical infirmity (Blind, Cripple, Asthmatic)
b. First name (see above) or name of fruit (Lemon, Lime, Kiwi)
c. Last Name of President (Jefferson, Johnson, Fillmore, etc.)
Mix and Match
Hey St. Al: Geniuses are rarely good businesspeople! For we Mac users, Jobs should have hooked up with Disney before he left Apple. But then again look at the results when he did as head of Pixar: Toy Story. Let's see a PC do that! Sigh... Well, I guess I'll have to put IE on the IIsi after all.
Police Arrest Suspect in Stockholm Bombing
10.54 a.m. EDT (1454 GMT) September 5, 1997
STOCKHOLM, Sweden A Swedish man arrested overnight with explosives near the
statue used as the logo in Stockholm's 2004 Olympic bid could be responsible for two
previous explosions at Swedish sports stadiums, police said on Friday.
"As far as I understand, the person arrested fits fairly well with the profile we have
drawn up,'' head of the police investigation, Bo Wide, told a news conference.
"We don't exclude that he could be the perpetrator.''
Stockholm's bid to host the 2004 Olympics was in danger of being derailed by a series
of arson attacks and two bomb explosions which last month damaged part of
Stockholm's 1912 Olympic Stadium and the Ullevi Stadium in Gothenburg.
Stockholm is competing against Rome, Athens, Cape Town and Buenos Aires for the
right to host the 2004 Games with the final decision to be made in Lausanne on Friday.
A little-known group called "We Who Built Sweden'' claimed responsibility for the
attacks, insisting money spent on such an event should instead go to social causes.
The police, however, maintained it appeared that the bombings were the work of an
individual rather than a group and a series of seven arson attacks were unrelated.
Wide said investigations into the two explosions were continuing but the
man arrested, identified only as Clas, overnight at the Milles sculpture garden could be responsible.
"We still don't have the exact analysis from the other explosions in Gothenburg and
Stockholm but we have strong reason to believe that it is the same perpetrator,'' he said.
Since the bombs, police have kept a 24-hour watch on other possible Olympic targets
with 160 uniformed policemen and an undisclosed number of plainclothes policemen on
patrol in Stockholm.
Shortly before midnight on Thursday, police on duty at Millesgarden seized a man with
a backpack holding explosives and a detonator as he approached the Carl Milles statue,
Pegasus and the Human, which Stockholm used as its bid logo.
"The bomb was not assembled but it wouldn't have taken much to make it usable,'' Wide
said.
The man, who is known to police, was being questioned on Friday morning but had so
far refused to say anything, police said.
Police announced a national alert after the arrest.
When a doorman at the Grand Hotel in central Stockholm reported a rubber dingy with
three men on board working on something under a bridge near the royal palace at around
5.00 a.m. (0700 GMT) the area was immediately sealed off.
But the search was called off and the area was opened up again at about 8.30 a.m. (0630
GMT).
"We have stopped looking. We haven't found anything,'' police spokesman Mats Nylen
told Reuters.
He said police had taken the report seriously in light of the previous attacks.
The incidents followed seven arson attacks at various sports venues around Stockholm
this year and the two explosions at venues that would be used for some events if
Stockholm won the 2004 Games.
"A couple of the arson attacks could have been done by the same person or a few
persons,'' police spokesman Claes Cassel said. "But some of the other arson attacks are
probably just epidemic.''
Stockholm's Olympic Committee said the arrest proved the city's police was effective
and that Stockholm would be a secure place to hold the 2004 Games.
"This should reassure any International Olympic Committee (IOC) members who ever
doubted that Swedish police would solve this situation and find this person responsible,''
committee spokesman Anders Hultin told Reuters.
"We are feeling very satisfied with this. It is quite clear now that we can offer a secure
This is WDAN FM. You just heard Evander Holyfield singing "New Front Ear". Before that was Carl Sagan with "Any World that I'm Welcome To".
Here's today's trivia question: What musician recorded with Steely Dan, Randy Newman, Chet Atkins, and the Chieftains?
Dr. Mu--There's no real link between DF and Ben Folds other than the keyboard artistry and songwriting genius and the fact that they both work primarily with their bass players. Also, they both write a lot of songs with brilliant bridges that lay apart from the rest of the song and are sung only once (eg: Sign In Stranger, I Got the News, Fair). Yes, Folds is from Chapel Hill. He records in his house, co-produces his own records, and uses no guitars.
RS
i'd like to second the vote for ben folds five... they are my current favorite band. amazing live, better on cd, and just generally really spiffy. and yes, ben folds is a piano genius. wow. too bad they don't get more airplay... such is life, i guess.
amanda
Amanda: Ben Folds Five -- definite thumbs up. Saw 'em with the Counting Crows earlier this spring. Even though they played the Paramount, they seemed out of place in this 300 seater. They belong in a club where you can get up and grind right along with them. As for SD introduction tunes, my 3 at the moment would be Your Gold Teeth II, Aja, Night By Night.
DrMU: Perhaps the reason your STILL using a IIsi is cuz you can afford to upgrade to present Apple technology
sorry buddy, couldn't resist. see you in chat?
StAl
that would be 3000 seater and CAN'T afford
The Shows airs at:
This week on Q102's In the Studio (Sun Sept. 7 at 8pm CT), Redbeard interviews Steely Dan.
SD celebrates the twentieth annivesary of their biggest album AJA.
http://www.audionet.com/radio/alternative/ktxq/
Yippie!
Aja
Hey, I Got the Blues- That was the funniest thing I've read all week! Do you mind giving us the author's name? Did you add the Sierra, Sequoia line? I agree anyone with one of those names or; Dawn, Sharon, Michelle, Fran or Barbara can't sing the blues, they kvetch.
Aja
I just got an update on that SD show on Q102-
THE TIMES LISTED IN PREVIOUS EMAIL WERE WRONG.
***STEELY DAN IS AT 9:30 - 10:30 pm Central Time.***
http://www.audionet.com/radio/alternative/ktxq/
sorry for the confusion.
Matt Marum
Aja
I wonder if that "SD In The Studio" is a re-broadcast of an older interview, rather than a new one? Is there any way to find out more?
Roy Scam, Amanda, StAl: I will check out that Ben Folds Five lead righ away. Many thanks. Lots of love.
Aja - Thanks too.
Clas - I will pay your bail, dude!!!!
Payback time - If you guys are in a jazzy mood, try Charly Hunter Trio (Quartet)
Gauchito Lindo
Clas--It's easy to say "peace" after a violent outburst, if the violence is aimed at producing peace. Destroy all violence! Stamp it out! Kill violence!
"I wanna see blood, guts, veins in my teeth. I wanna kill...."
Peace,
Rabbit
To I Wonder about that- actually it did not say that it was a live interview, so I don't know if it's rehash or what. The information I got was from audionet. The guy gave me these other numbers so I guess you could contact him. (since I haven't heard a radio interview of SD I'm going to listen anyway). Here is the guy's name and number.
Matt Marum
(214)748-6660 ext. 2165
FAX: (214)748-6657
2914 Taylor St. Dallas, TX 75226
http://www.audionet.com
mmarum@audionet.com
I finally was able to access the chat! Now that nobody's there:-( If anyone wants to chat, I should be online for a while, so e-mail me at the above address.
So does anybody else out there, when you hear the line from PL, "you must be joking son, where did you get those shoes?", think of a ridiculous pair you've encountered? Since 1992, I always think of this cinematographer, who wore these awful red sneakers. Sometimes I think he wore them to detract from that even worse toupee.
Aja
I guess you just have to hingle and dingle in the welfarenet all night and day and just wait for the next paycheck.
No, get up guys and try to pull your self together. Sluggards.
GAUCHO, thanks, but you donīt have to, they took the wrong guy.
Mr BLUES; yeah, it seems like you got the blues.
Clas Arrested For Rash Of Anti-Olympics Bombings;
You are so damn dumb, so moronish, so totally out of track so I wonder who helped you to log in to this site. And who types? Your fucking ugly sister or your fucking ugly, sloppy mother. Oh no, they canīt type. I guess they canīt even read. And whoīs computer do you borrow, some banjoplaying babbling idiot from Knoxville? I guess your stupid parents was closely related before they got married.
And more; what are you doing here, you canīt possible understand a single word or note from Steely Dan you fucking cretin. So I have a simple suggestion to you, fuckhead, try to get out of that welfarenet and get a job. You can always help the incompetent Government of yours to clean up all garbage that fill the streets in your hometown.
And while your doing that youīr going to forget all about Clas, Internet and computers. Go fuck your self YGK- schlepper.
(I know somethings about you that I donīt think you want have screened out here on the GBook.)
Peace,
Clas, out on the leftwing.
PS Is it OK to use another alias during the chat? I thought "mr whatever" would be a good choice for me.
"...some kids just drive too fast..."
I think that I had a dream last night where Walter and Donald were presenters at the MTV Music Video Awards. They presented right after No Doubt accepted their award for being talentless losers on speed. The boyz were drop dead caustic, especially Walter, who sliced up the female lead singer in his typical manner (i.e. "hey buddy, if you're gonna videotape the show, put some tape over the little red light. It's an IQ test ya know....").
Nobody in chat, oh well....planning on Sunday night.
majĐ
use whatever alias you want, clas. You'll be audi on that IGNORE button in no time no matter what you call yourslef.
Great dream, maj.
Roy.Scam: Larry Carlton
If you're interested in the Redbeard show on audionet, you should know that you'll need Microsoft NetShow Player before you can hear it. More info on downloading at http://www.microsoft.com/netshow/download/player.htm. It looks as though it'll work with Netscape in both Mac and Windows versions, but I haven't tested it. I'm still downloading the thing.
Roy.Scam: I know Chet Atkins recorded with Mark Knopfler. Did Mark work with Randy Newman and the Chieftains, too?
majĐ: One can dream. . .
XX; "matter what you call yourslef..." no, you canīt spell, YGK. He he, godsons or not godsons, are you a nice man YGK? No secrets hidden in the closet? Tawkie tawk.
Clas--I'd start with "The Crying of Lot 49." Shorter; gives you a chance to get used to his style.
Aja--why ashamed? There is so much to read. Just look at it as an opportunity. Yes, turkey has tryptophan, but there it is a good thing. Acts like a trank during the inevitable football game.
lp--as I said, I've seen homeopathy work for a lot of people, & a good friend of mine is an M.D. homeopath. Why no studies? Clue: Follow the money. 1) there isn't anywhere near as much $ in homeopathic remedies as in pharmaceuticals; 2) starting in the early 1900's with the Flexner Report, complementary disciplines were discredited or actively hounded out of legitimacy, so that allopathy would retain the economic edge. Look where that got us. I still have trouble with the concept that dilution past the possibility that even one molecule of the compound in question is in the remedy actually makes it more potent. But maybe I'm being too quantitative.
pete--thanks for the remembrances of Maggi McCoy. Hope I can be so hip if I make it as far.
amanda--wow! long time no e! glad you're back. My pix--"Pretzel Logic," "My Old School," and "Home At Last."
Music notes--yesterday, Future Man (aka Roy Wooten), the drummer for Bela Fleck & the Flecktones (Gaucho--you should check them out too) was in town. He's buds with one of the music profs at UNC-Asheville, Wayne Kirby. They are into some thin-air stuff, e.g. calculating mathematical formulae for the Periodic Table and then setting it all to music. F.M. is reconfiguring his Drumitar to hook up to a MIDI (nonmusician disclaimer: I have no idea how)--now it's a surround of piezoelectric buttons. He & Wayne gave a noon concert which my husband & budding drummer Number Two Son attended; Wayne accompanied on theremin. Also present was Bob Moog--yes, THE Moog. He lives & runs a theremin factory here.
Roy & YGK--you guys got me giggling. My candidate for worst possible cover: Trent Reznor, "Maxine." Come to think of it, he might do a creditable "Josie" instead.
on the o tip
Oh Amanda;
long time no e. Are you here as an own person or as daddys girl and Walters buddy?
i had a similar dream the other night.
donald fagen and walter becker were the announcers at the mtv awards show..........
puff daddy,spice girls, no doubt,madonna and bush all approached the stage en masse to recieve their awards, when all of a sudden the stage collapsed engulping the award recipients whole. donald fagen and walter becker were left standing at the podium with arm fulls each of those cheesy looking awards.
they turned to each other and simultaneously tossed them into the pit, and then strolled off the stage.
i was awakened by the beutifull sounds of "your gold teeth ll"
RABBIT: veins in your teeth? (great visual)
peace out A.J.B.
hey! anyone have the seedy details of steely dans' drug use during the 70's?? I always like to hear stuff like that because it kinda gives me an idea of the culture artists were immersed in, especially in Los Angeles. Both were unabashed "chemists" in their heyday and anyone who has listened to live tracks during the 70's knows how thick the cloud was over the concert hall! Look forward to hearing from ya all.
nick
The Webcast with Donald and Walter on Q-102 in Dallas is on a half hour early at 9 PM not 9:30 Central Time. Just came in to tape it and missed the first ten minutes. Hey kids...come back here after it's over in an hour or so. laters.
AJA 20th Anniversary Webcast
I came in 20 minutes before the Q-102 in Texas webcast was to start (at 9:30 PM Central Time) and it turns out it had started at 9:00 PM!
At any rate, most of the stuff us Steely Dan fans already knew...it's geared to general audiences. The usual stuff, like Walter explaining that they preferred to be a studio band (in the 70s). Throughout, this D.J, Redbeard, made some comments that were a bit idiotic in my book, but, hey, I've made my share of idiotic comments on the internet.
At any rate, it sounded like the interview was spliced together...like
the DJ recorded the questions for Donald and Walter and then mailed
the tape to them--and then D & W recorded answers and mailed it back to him. I'm not even certain how recent the interview was...if maybe this DJ spliced the 20th Anniversary part long after the interview.
Donald gave a lot of credit to Tom Scott for his part in the album. There were 21 musicians on the album. Then Donald answered a question we debated here a while back. He said that, indeed, "Aja"'s Drums were a single take.
The DJ discussed how "Aja" was their first to go platinum. I thought Walter was being extremely modest when he explained that it was at a time when records were really selling well, around the time of Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours." Fagen started discussing "Deacon Blues" and mentioning that the title character was a jazz lover looking for an nickname. Now that fact isn't new to us BUT the way he talked about it made me think of "Deadon Blue" as a pre-cursor to "The Nightfly" album. He didn't say that but it made me think of it.
Walter discussed his relationship with ABC Records which he thought was getting a little bit tenuous since it was taking them longer to record than usual. He said he was concerned that they were going to grab the masters before they were done with the album. But, Walter said, that turned out to be unfounded. Donald talked about how ABC was concerned about the costs and weren't totally enthusiastic about that although they didn't mind their not touring too much. Nevertheless, this friction caused Donald and Walter to sign with Warner Brothers Records.
Then it just abruptly ended at 10 PM Central time after "Peg" was played which was announced as charting at #11, as if it matters all that much to us Dan fans.
Nice chat yesterday. Did you highlite my nickname mr. Whatever = xx = YGK?
NICK; I think you should give a shit about there "drugabuse" and instead listen to their music. Mr Fagen and mr Becker are VERY nice people and have NEVER used any drugs.
C
Some Steely Dan fans got a real treat last night. I loaded Netscape 4.02 amd was able to get into the chat room.
Imagine the thrill of being able to talk with me live!
Edd
Clas: You threaten to air some of my personal issues here on the Internet. Firstly, if you got anything, go ahead and air it, you meathead. Because if you got anything, you got the wrong info on the wrong person. Then, you accuse me of logging on using a different handle - on the weekend, no less - when I'm not at work, and when I don't have access to a computer at home.
Idle threats carry no weight - you're just full of bull.
Hey, if you're going to make threats, idiot, then follow through with them - like to blow up a stadium or something.
Get a brain. Get a clue. Get a life. Get outta town.
ygk
St. Al: I still have to get a round to installing IE (silver key) to get into the chat room (red door). But, if I lay down my Jackson, I guess I'll see Clas squabbling like he has before...so no hurry. Ironically, there's a brand new 8500, or is it 8600, down stairs with my name on it as soon as our so-called computer guru can figure out how to load Word 5.1 on it (looks like I'll have to contact Apple and Microsoft myself for some help). Microsoft's later version (6.0 series) of Word for the Mac uses essentially the %^*%&$# Window's environment, which I despise. Plus all my previous lesson plans and manusripts are on 5.1. I could convert them all to 6.x easily, but then they would be unreadable on 5.x. I hope I newver see Gates on the street!!!
...That was Lorena Bobbit singing "Throw Back the Little Ones".
The correct trivia answer was submitted by Hank Silvers. Mark Knopfler recorded with all those people (not to mention Dire Straits). In fact I saw him on a Saturday Night Live rerun the other day doing DIXIE FLYER with Randy Newman. He also did the guitar riffs for IT'S MONEY THAT MATTERS on the Land of Dreams album. For your prize you get a year's supply of money for nothin' and chicks for free.
Oleander--Setting the Periodic Table to music sounds like a great idea. Perhaps that's how Steely Dan was derived from Iron Dan. Didn't one of those 70's groups put "Oxygen" to music?
Does the guitar solo break in BAD SNEAKERS remind anyone else of Hugh Masakela?
RS
Had a great time on the chat last night. StAl finally came up with a good idea.
Yes, Edd, you should have charged a fee.
Roy.Scam - Why would the guitar solo by WB in Bad Sneakers remind me of South African trumpet player Hugh Masakela?
I can hear rhythmic echoes of "Grazing In The Grass" in the solo section to "Bad Sneakers"...
Edd
Kinky, Edd--I think Edd's hit it; it's that slight tempo shift when the solo starts that reminds me of Grazing in the Grass. Also there's a passage in Masakela's trumpet part that's really reminiscent of part of WB's guitar phrasing in 'Sneakers', kind of a staccato, stairstep effect. I wish I had the mucical/academic chops to describe it. Or maybe I'm just going insane (and laughing at the frozen rain). Whether I'm right or wrong, they're still two great records.
RS
Roy.Scam: For a rousing version of the Periodic Table set to music check out Tom Leher "An Evening Wasted" (I think its on that one, the album's at home), at any rate the tune has its roots in Gilbert and Sullivan I believe...
mW
miss a: thanks for your take...which cd would you recommend first?
Without benefit of either record here to listen to, I believe both of them accentuate beats "2" and "3&". (Not like 100s of other recordings don't though...)
dr. mu: that's a tough one. i heard the self-titled first, but that's 'cause the self-titled was all there was when i heard it. "whatever and ever amen" is mellow, whereas the first cd is pretty consistenly hyper. of course, i recommend them both, but as far as which comes first, it's your call.
amanda
Can't buy a thrill is right...*sigh*! September means school is back in session, which means I am working overtime again getting classes prepared. But this album (my first SD ever) is getting me through. (Do it again just seems so appropriate some nights...)
On the earlier topic of SD seductions: I gladly report that Aja did fine by me this weekend! That, and the boy brought me green earrings! So now I'll just be...
GE
Green Earrings - Well, looks like despite school being in session life is good for you. Sometimes I'm a little envious of those just discovering SD. We're all sure you'll have a ball doing so.
Aja
After months and months and months I'm finally back, only this time I'm on a different continent. Belated hellos to Amanda and Dr. Mu. Backtracking a few days, I have a whole stack of Ben Folds b-sides and stuff if anybody's interested. Just for the record San Antonio is infinitely hotter than London. But we have KCJZ down here, the kind of radio station ol' Blighty sorely lacks.
mWorld--Is Tom Lehrer the same singer that made the record "Be Prepared" back in the fifties or sixties? As I recall he was kind of like that guy who does political humor at his piano on PBS, only funny. Thanks for the tip on elemental music; I'll watch for this 'evening wasted'. Is that likely to be on public radio, EZ listening, WJAZ, R&B, headbanger radio, VH-1, ____?
Amanda, DrMu--On the subject of which Ben Folds Five album to hear first, choose either or both. However, the second one, Whatever and Ever Amen, has the distinction of having four really good songs with one-syllable titles. When was the last album that could make that boast? (That's just a rhetorical question, please don't research it.)
Just my opinion, I could be wrong: Rolling Stone Magazine should be rolled and de-stoned for not putting Countdown to Ecstacy in their top twenty, much less their top 200.
RS
Roy.Scam: Exactly, that's the guy, also does "Poisoning Pigeons in the Park" and "Smut"...all his releases (3, I think) are available on CD...as for broadcasts, I used to hear him played on Dr. Demento and, as you mentioned PBS...
mW
Hoops--thanx for the low-down on the KTXQ show. Glad I didn't miss much. Downloaded the damn Netshow & can't get it to do anything.
Mr. Stew--Got some info indirectly from a local psychotherapist: make sure you have hi-potency St. John's wort--hypericum 0.3% guaranteed potency extract, 300 mg., and take 900 mg./day. Let me know how it's working.
Roy & M. Monde--I haven't listened to Tom Lehrer in years, but I remember he was very funny. The other guy was Mark Russell. As for chemistry & the Dan, to me it's pure alchemical magic, and even my analytical side just surrenders to their incomparable potion.
Asfor the RS Top 200, I kvetched about it too. Ignorami.
Had one of those carpal-tunnel spasms.
I just read of the death in Aug. of Fela (Anikulapo Kuti), the Nigerian powerhouse/pariah/walking international incident. His music has been a big influence on me; I just love it, and I'm sorry he's gone. Take a chance and check out "Upside Down," "ITT (International Thief Thief)," and "Expensive Shit."
And in the matter of musical seduction, the most powerfully potent such tune I've ever been swept up by is "Concierto," off the album of the same name by Jim Hall, ca. 1975. You probably remember that Miles did this tune by Rodrigo on "Sketches of Spain," but this version is liquid, rhythmically irresistible, and mounts in a series of climaxes that's just--well, you fill in the blanks. It's 19 1/2 minutes long, which is short for some people (just put it on endless repeat), just right for others....And the personnel alone is enough to make you swoon: Jim Hall, guitar; Paul Desmond, alto; Chet Baker, trumpet; Roland Hanna, piano; Ron Carter, bass; and--drum roll--Steve Gadd. (I love Gadd on the album--so tight, crisp, understated) The rest of the tunes I'm lukewarm on--not much of a cool jazz fan--but this tune is worth much more than the price of admission. Now I expect reports back on how you do with it.
Just o it
Clas,
You people are a bunch of sick fucks...
Handicapped in Sweden forced to eat sweets as part of
experiment
7.29 p.m. EDT (2329 GMT) September 9, 1997
By Jim Heintz, Associated Press
STOCKHOLM, Sweden (AP) Hundreds of mentally handicapped people were forced to
eat vast amounts of candy and other sweet foods in an experiment a half a century ago
on tooth decay, a newspaper reported Tuesday.
The revelation follows an uproar over reports that Sweden forcibly sterilized some
60,000 people between 1935 to 1976. The sterilizations were conducted under a law
passed in the belief that society as a whole would benefit from a policy of eugenics.
The same sort of thinking was behind the 1943-53 tooth decay experiments.
"Society needed evidence. We thought we were doing a good deed,'' dentist Bo Krasse,
who helped run the tests, told the newspaper Aftonbladet.
According to the newspaper, more than 400 mentally handicapped patients at Vipeholm
mental hospital were fed daily diets of toffee, other sweets and white bread.
The toffee was "as much as a child could imagine putting away,'' said Hans Grahnen,
another dentist in the experiment.
The purpose of the tests was to show a direct connection between consumption of
high-sugar foods and tooth decay.
"Certainly there were suspicions that sweets affected dental health, but this was not
accepted by the industry. In order to be able to give the public dietary advice, we needed
evidence,'' Krasse was quoted as saying.
Bo Petersson, a Linkoeping University professor who has researched the program, said
the goals were commendable but the methods distasteful, and said he was surprised it
had been supported by the Swedish parliament.
"This never would have been approved today. The experiment was not unnecessary, but
they should have used only volunteers who understood what they were involved in,'' he
told the newspaper.
Reports on the sterilization program focused worldwide attention on Sweden, with many
media accounts contrasting the program with the country's benign and liberal image.
The government has appointed a committee to investigate, and has emphasized that the
sterilizations were conducted at a time when society had a different view of individual
rights.
Krasse admitted that he now finds ethical problems with the dental experiment that did
not occur to him at the time.
Hoops!, thanks for the scoop on the KTXQ stuff...
Thanks in part to Hoops' digest and a colleague, I was recently introduced to the "Barrytown
Trilogy" by the Irish scribe Roddy Doyle (most famous for "The Commitments"). A good
read IMHO as was "The Snapper" from same trilogy...
Some late breaking Dan related musical happenings for anyone interested:
Randy Brecker at Birdland this Tuesday and Wed.
Horace Silver at The Blue Note October 7 thru 12.
Wayne Shorter (w/Herbie Hancock) in support of their latest collaboration
"1+1" at Town Hall on October 29.
Just feeding the machine...
Non-Dan content: Metheny - New CD and a tour this fall, dates to be
announced this Monday!
Kinky, Edd, Arcturan- I have realized that I should keep my mouth shut when it comes to discussing things I don't know anything about (i.e. - drum machines) I'll just sit back and listen until I'm educated enough to throw my two cents in.
Kinky and Edd - I didn't mean to leave, the other night just before edd's story, but my screwed up modem just disconnected me.
To others - the information I had put down about the release date of you know what in an earlier post was speculation (hence the ?? marks). Someone else had told me that they had heard this same info and *I mistakenly assumed* that this was from a trade publication.
I regret if I have lead anyone else to believe that this was official word.
Roy. Scam and Oleander - thanks for finally putting a name the artist who gave us, "We Will All Go Together When We Go". It's been a mystery to me for years and I hadn't even thought of the song in months. Another CD added to my ever growing list.
Here's hoping we get some official word soon.
Aja
Yo Joe--where ya been? Eyes glued to the entertainment pages, obviously. I won't thank you for the tips since I can't go see any of them and am intolerably jealous of the geographically advantaged. I saw (not read) "The Commitments" and "The Snapper," directed by Stephen Frears, & dug them. The last leg of the film trilogy (is it the same as the book?), "The Van," is coming here shortly. You're invited.
re: Aja & drum machines...
Don't worry about it, you're probably better off. The debate over use/nonuse of drum machines (and the extension to synths and MIDI) often takes on religious proportions.
Edd
oleander: Just a coupla things of possible interest to you. To wit:
Lengthy article on St. John's Wort in yesterday's NYT's Science Times section. And
It's a genuine thrill to discover another fan of that Jim Hall record. Don't give up on the remainder of the record--listen to the tantalizing interplay of Desmond and Baker on "You'd Be So Nice To Come Home To." I think it's one of the most lyrical passages ever committed to vinyl, notwithstanding the collected works of Steely Dan.
Oleander: "The Van" is in fact the last book in the trilogy as well. Thanks for the cordial invite but, alas, I too am geographically challenged... at least in this respect. "The Commitments" was indeed a fine flick.
Some Metheny tour dates! for the cognosente.
I take this new road on the way to work now. Chesterfield Rd. I get to sing it every morning, "...there's plenty of java and Chesterfield Kings..." Donald has some good vocals on that song.
"..I wish i had a heart of ice, a heart like ice..."
maj.
jon--fabulous! Thought I might be alone on this one--your comments are a treat. I'd never listened to the rest on headphones, and you're right, that passage is exquisite. It's funny; "Concierto de Aranjuez" (Narciso Yepes on guitar) was one of the handful of lp's we had when I was growing up. I loved listening to it, but it didn't have any of the sensual feel Hall's does. That first (foreplay) section--and then getting down to business with the rhythm section coming in one by one--hoo-ah! Now, I've been wanting to ask you--where's your yellow stripe?
The controversy is over: we were listening to "Show Biz Kids" tonight, and #2 son chimed in, "going to hot spaceships, hot spaceships...."
Danmoment: waiting in a restaurant for my lunch date, reading "Romeo and Juliet," when on comes "Tomorrow's Girls," snuggled between Boz Scaggs and Hall & Oates.
Joe--But the refreshment stand's hydroponic, and I'll brew up some decaf!
Roy--Talking Heads' "Fear of Music" has 3--"Mind," "Air," and "Drugs," and 4 more that are 1 word. Am I the ninth caller?
jon--fabulous! Thought I might be alone on this one--your comments are a treat. I'd never listened to the rest on headphones, and you're right, that passage is exquisite. It's funny; "Concierto de Aranjuez" (Narciso Yepes on guitar) was one of the handful of lp's we had when I was growing up. I loved listening to it, but it didn't have any of the sensual feel Hall's does. That first (foreplay) section--and then getting down to business with the rhythm section coming in one by one--hoo-ah! Now, I've been wanting to ask you--where's your yellow stripe?
The controversy is over: we were listening to "Show Biz Kids" tonight, and #2 son chimed in, "going to hot spaceships, hot spaceships...."
Danmoment: waiting in a restaurant for my lunch date, reading "Romeo and Juliet," when on comes "Tomorrow's Girls," snuggled between Boz Scaggs and Hall & Oates.
Joe--But the refreshment stand's hydroponic, and I'll brew up some decaf!
Roy--Talking Heads' "Fear of Music" has 3--"Mind," "Air," and "Drugs," and 4 more that are 1 word. Am I the ninth caller?
jon--fabulous! Thought I might be alone on this one--your comments are a treat. I'd never listened to the rest on headphones, and you're right, that passage is exquisite. It's funny; "Concierto de Aranjuez" (Narciso Yepes on guitar) was one of the handful of lp's we had when I was growing up. I loved listening to it, but it didn't have any of the sensual feel Hall's does. That first (foreplay) section--and then getting down to business with the rhythm section coming in one by one--hoo-ah! Now, I've been wanting to ask you--where's your yellow stripe?
The controversy is over: we were listening to "Show Biz Kids" tonight, and #2 son chimed in, "going to hot spaceships, hot spaceships...."
Danmoment: waiting in a restaurant for my lunch date, reading "Romeo and Juliet," when on comes "Tomorrow's Girls," snuggled between Boz Scaggs and Hall & Oates.
Joe--But the refreshment stand's hydroponic, and I'll brew up some decaf!
Roy--Talking Heads' "Fear of Music" has 3--"Mind," "Air," and "Drugs," and 4 more that are 1 word. Am I the ninth caller?
jon--fabulous! Thought I might be alone on this one--your comments are a treat. I'd never listened to the rest on headphones, and you're right, that passage is exquisite. It's funny; "Concierto de Aranjuez" (Narciso Yepes on guitar) was one of the handful of lp's we had when I was growing up. I loved listening to it, but it didn't have any of the sensual feel Hall's does. That first (foreplay) section--and then getting down to business with the rhythm section coming in one by one--hoo-ah! Now, I've been wanting to ask you--where's your yellow stripe?
The controversy is over: we were listening to "Show Biz Kids" tonight, and #2 son chimed in, "going to hot spaceships, hot spaceships...."
Danmoment: waiting in a restaurant for my lunch date, reading "Romeo and Juliet," when on comes "Tomorrow's Girls," snuggled between Boz Scaggs and Hall & Oates.
Joe--But the refreshment stand's hydroponic, and I'll brew up some decaf!
Roy--Talking Heads' "Fear of Music" has 3--"Mind," "Air," and "Drugs," and 4 more that are 1 word. Am I the ninth caller?
jon--fabulous! Thought I might be alone on this one--your comments are a treat. I'd never listened to the rest on headphones, and you're right, that passage is exquisite. It's funny; "Concierto de Aranjuez" (Narciso Yepes on guitar) was one of the handful of lp's we had when I was growing up. I loved listening to it, but it didn't have any of the sensual feel Hall's does. That first (foreplay) section--and then getting down to business with the rhythm section coming in one by one--hoo-ah! Now, I've been wanting to ask you--where's your yellow stripe?
The controversy is over: we were listening to "Show Biz Kids" tonight, and #2 son chimed in, "going to hot spaceships, hot spaceships...."
Danmoment: waiting in a restaurant for my lunch date, reading "Romeo and Juliet," when on comes "Tomorrow's Girls," snuggled between Boz Scaggs and Hall & Oates.
Joe--But the refreshment stand's hydroponic, and I'll brew up some decaf!
Roy--Talking Heads' "Fear of Music" has 3--"Mind," "Air," and "Drugs," and 4 more that are 1 word. Am I the ninth caller?
So sorry! I don't know why the hell that did that! Gremlins!
Sorry to post this non-SD related material, but I'm desperate and I don't have an email address for:
Oleander- I'm allergic to NSAIDS and was wondering if you knew of an herbal remedy. You can email me at above address if you wish.
Many Thanks,
Aja
Well, Shari got really bored and put together a Steely Dan Match Game. I'm sure you get the idea of it, but the background pictures change with each game. I've been playing it myself, and I think I'm already addicted.
That 20/20 episode with Michelle Wiley airs tonight. The only problem is that I think they ran out of time and are cutting out the whole segment on Steely Dan. At least that's what they've told me.
I forgot to mention that your browser must be java savvy to play the game.
ole (if I may be so presumptious): My yellow stripe goes smack down the middle of the famed "Downtown Crossing" section of Boston into the belly of the financial district, where I labor each day to give the large multinational company for whom I work a presence on the World Wide Web.
Joe M-If PMG makes it anywhere near the the Tri-State area (you know which states I'm referring to) let's get together and finally hash out whose son is cuter. There may even be a good tape in the deal.
Yet another article in NYTimes devoted to salutory effects of St. John's wort. Check Wednesday's Living Section. Can cover of People mag be far behind?
Just to put my Ben Folds two cents in, I would plump for the first album as it has more quality tracks than the follow up. That's not to say that Whatever and Ever Amen is inferior as such, just a little less consistent. Apparently they do a great live version of Video Killed the Radio Star...
"Things Overheard at the MTV Video Music Awards"
As presented on the 09/04/97 broadcast of LATE SHOW with DAVID LETTERMAN
10. "Five minutes till show time -- we'd better thaw out Keith Richards"
9. "I don't care what you're formerly known as -- just park my damn car"
8. "Oh my God -- Coolio's hair just strangled an usher!"
7. "Radiohead couldn't make it. Here to accept on his behalf is his brother, Toaster-Oven-Head"
6. "I just saw Nine Inch Nails in the dressing room. It's more like Four Inch Nails"
5. "I thought the Chemical Brothers were Christian Slater and Robert Downey Jr."
4. "Jakob Dylan? Any relation to Matt Dillon?"
3. "You little girls aren't allowed backstage -- oh, sorry, Hanson"
2. "Hey everybody -- let's beat up those snotty little bastards from 'The Real World'"
1. "And the award for Puffiest New Artist goes to...Puff Daddy!"
Sorry guys to bore you all with this:
Steely Baby Zone is back online.
Some cool bits but of course, More to come!
Laters
ha... forgot to mention that frm was the reason i checked out ben folds five in the first place... i'd heard one song on the soundtrack to "the truth about cats and dogs" and he said "buy the cd, you'll like it" so i did, and i did.
and yes, they do an excellent live version of "video killed the radio star."
amanda
wow! Things here sure have changed from the last time I visited here! So can someone give me a somewhat definite answer as to the status of the 'new' album? Is it happening or not? When?!?!
More to come.....
Ben
As for this Ben Folds conversation, just got done with an initial listen to "Whatever...", some nice moments - always a sucker for the hook, I dug 'One Angry Dwarf...' and 'Kate' right out of the box...so FRM/amanda/all others who recommended it, good call...
mW
Michelle Wiley has made it, at least. to the commercials airing for tonight's 20/20 segment....
Looks like she's having fun.
Edd
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majĐ
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I Got
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DrMu
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Clas Arrested
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Amanda
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Aja
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Gaucho
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Rabbit
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Aja
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Aja
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clas
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Mr. Stewart
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Doc Kelly
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Hank Silvers
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clas
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oleander
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clas
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A Johnny boy
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Jim McKay
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Jim McKay
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Q-102 FM, KTXQ, Dallas
9:00 PM CDT, Sunday, Sept 7, 1997
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Green Earrings
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